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8. # [00:03] <seth> joe: thanks for the idea of using mdfind to filter the list of possible matches before using grep/ack
9. # [00:03] <seth> joe: i made a version of ack.vim that uses it. _much_ faster. good stuff!
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16. # [00:10] <jlebar> joe: I'm about to head out for the evening, but send me an e-mail if you want to talk about the asap decodes.
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18. # [00:11] <abr> seth -- care to share your script?
19. # [00:11] <Pike> glandium: any idea on why the aurora windows builds wouldn't find branding.nsi? http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=Mozilla-l10n-af/1361470833.1361471087.18997.gz&fulltext=1
20. # [00:12] <RyanVM> Linux32 Debug M2 Green! w00t
21. # [00:12] <abr> Yaay!
22. # [00:12] <seth> abr: it's something i banged out in 15 minutes so the usual caveats about your computer catching on fire apply, but you can get it here: https://github.com/sfowler/ack.vim
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24. # [00:12] <abr> seth: Thanks!
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38. # [00:23] <philor> awesomesauce, an sg intermittent-failure bug which apparently has a comment which satisfies our 6 months of clamoring for someone to look at the thing we keep filing duplicates of, and I'm not allowed to see that comment despite being allowed to see the bug
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42. # [00:23] <@khuey> what bug is this?
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48. # [00:28] <RyanVM> philor: they want to open the bug
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53. # [00:30] <Jesse> i assume you're talking about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780601. bill's comment is essentially "I think we should open this bug up, anyone disagree?". i don't know see how that satisfies needinfo.
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56. # [00:30] <Jesse> (billm)
57. # [00:30] <Jesse> sorry to disappoint you, philor
58. # [00:31] <billm> philor: is there any reason why that bug is important to you? it seems like a lot of other oranges.
59. # [00:32] <glandium> Pike: looks like fallout from bug 786520
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63. # [00:32] <Jesse> i think philor is mostly frustrated that it's security-sensitive -- making it hard to star, attracting dups
64. # [00:32] <glandium> Pike: the rules in browser/branding/aurora/Makefile.in copy it during libs::, but browser/installer/windows/Makefile.in expects it in dist/branding during export::
65. # [00:33] <philor> billm: that's it, s-s means no suggestions from tbpl. and people thinking they need to file it if they can't see it
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69. # [00:34] <Jesse> i think it's reasonable to make it public. it's unlikely to help attackers more than it helps us.
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72. # [00:34] <billm> philor, Jesse: ok, I'll open
73. # [00:34] <philor> thx
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75. # [00:35] <Pike> glandium: that claims to have been backed out?
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77. # [00:35] <Jesse> oh, this is a test involving the debugger api? no wonder my fuzzer hasn't caught it.
78. # [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2ec16a9feea - Benoit Girard - backout 9f044f9e981a (Bug 842389) due to page correctness regression bug 843997.
79. # [00:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7440ba65e44d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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81. # [00:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10f28efcb0b7 - Axel Hecht - bug 844068, disable l10n for metro, r=mbrubeck,glandium; DONTBUILD
82. # [00:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08a034e1d43a - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 843928 - Share fails because of packaging. r=jimm
83. # [00:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb2935e08f2c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 838582 - Part 2: Move HTMLTextAreaElement to Web IDL bindings; r=bzbarsky
84. # [00:36] <@ehsan> RyanVM: thanks
85. # [00:36] <RyanVM> ehsan: np
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87. # [00:38] <glandium> Pike: well, the files in my tree look very much like it was not
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90. # [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ae71ffcc43d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 842892 - Block scripts while extending the selection for deletion in order to prevent a crash when changing the type of an input; r=smaug
91. # [00:39] <glandium> Pike: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/file/69ae52b191da/browser/branding/aurora/Makefile.in
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93. # [00:40] <glandium> Pike: ah, misblame, it's 823218
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95. # [00:41] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: btw, there's an assertion right before your test fails - might point you in the direction of what's going wrong
96. # [00:41] <Pike> glandium: ah, it says metro, I'll believe it
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98. # [00:42] <glandium> Pike: filed 844336, as mentioned by mail
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101. # [00:42] <Pike> thanks. good night to you, too. sending from my bed
102. # [00:43] <glandium> Pike: good night too
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107. # [00:49] <Callek> glandium: so whats your ETA on landing 841740
108. # [00:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f2c0e6e56a5 - Tatiana Meshkova - Bug 824511 - Remove Axis.cpp?mark=76,79,82#73 dead code and make Axis less sensitive to random move events distance. r=drs
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115. # [00:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2b3c9a266df0 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 842884 - Don't do array assignment optimizations when spread is involved. r=jorendorff a=akeybl
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117. # [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e5f82315a79 - David Anderson - Revert previous change to YARR (bug 824856, r=sstangl).
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126. # [00:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ea9db75d9630 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 829886. Implement GetClientBounds for nsChildViews on Mac so that it returns correct values. r=smichaud a=lsblakk
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128. # [00:53] <Callek> anyone: ping
129. # [00:53] <Callek> (testing if my IRC is busted)
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132. # [00:53] <@noone> Callek: pong
133. # [00:53] <Callek> thanks
134. # [00:54] <Callek> also double-kharma for the nick
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136. # [00:54] <Callek> khuey++
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138. # [00:54] <@khuey> What is "Default 22.0a1"
139. # [00:54] <@khuey> and why does something else want to modify my Nightly with it
140. # [00:54] <tanvi> Mossop, Unfocused: I'm still having trouble with browser_discovery.js (now with two different mixed content patches). Do you know what this is trying to do? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/test/browser/browser_discovery.js#331
141. # [00:55] <fabrice> khuey: that's the default theme
142. # [00:55] <fabrice> it will disable a lightweight theme if you have one
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146. # [00:55] <@khuey> oh god what did we do to the ui
147. # [00:55] <Mossop> khuey: Our add-on injection stuff is soo strict even we can't bypass it!
148. # [00:55] <Mossop> The default theme was accidentally removed with the metro landing and now it's come back again
149. # [00:55] <@khuey> WHERES MY PREF TO CHANGE IT BACK!?!?!?!?
150. # [00:56] <Mossop> All that happens if you lose your lightweight theme is that you need to enable it in the add-ons manager again
151. # [00:56] <Callek> khuey: you can change your UI back to nostalgia mode by installing SeaMonkey
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154. # [00:57] <@khuey> much better
155. # [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b88a261e304 - Brian Hackett - Bug 843875 - Don't use converted value for result of array assigns that require double conversion, r=jandem.
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157. # [00:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d60c19fb2c71 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 833777 - Guard against selectedTab being null when Gecko goes into the background. r=bnicholson a=akeybl
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159. # [00:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/598f6f4dc746 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 833777 - Ensure that a tab is selected after an OOM restore. r=mfinkle a=akeybl
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161. # [00:59] <Mossop> tanvi: If the get add-ons UI is showing an error then switching to the extensions list and back again should reload the default page
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163. # [01:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f8c5793be7d - Brian Hackett - Bug 843937 - Specialize on eval(name + "()"), r=jandem.
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166. # [01:00] <seth> anyone know what dump(), which is used to show output from XPCShell tests, actually does? i can't figure out how to do some logging from C++ during an xpcshell test. neither stdout nor stderr seem to go to the console
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168. # [01:01] <@khuey> xpcshell swallows output by default
169. # [01:01] <@khuey> you need to run it with --verbose
170. # [01:01] <@khuey> or something like that
171. # [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d6df33f26df - Gregory Szorc - Bug 843816 - Prevent duplicate recording of sessions in FHR when preference changes are lost; r=rnewman
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175. # [01:02] <seth> khuey: lovely, that works, thanks. though apparently there is some what to produce output without that..
176. # [01:02] <seth> some _way_ rather
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178. # [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f46e28183c02 - Wes Johnston - Bug 840267 - Use light UI for Sync JPAKE setup. r=rnewman
179. # [01:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6271f9482ede - Wes Johnston - Bug 840703 - Remove unnecessary menulist binding from Fennec. r=mbrubeck
180. # [01:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c34d5490c0ad - Wes Johnston - Bug 843234 - Move default favicon creation to separate thread. r=margaret
181. # [01:04] <tanvi> Mossop - so I get an error because https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/test/browser/browser_discovery.js#327 passes (and so does the test in line 335), but line 331 fails with TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/browser/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/test/browser/browser_discovery.js | Should have loaded the right url in insecure page test 2 - Got null, expected https://example.com/browser/tool
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184. # [01:05] <bajaj> glandium: ping
185. # [01:06] <Mossop> tanvi: Then I'd guess these lines aren't getting executed http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/extensions.js#1842
186. # [01:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4bfe9fbede9e - Brian Nicholson - Bug 840823 - Check whether new tabs were made from stubs to prevent removal race condition. r=mfinkle a=lsblakk
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188. # [01:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d74e00b4f4f - Jim Blandy - Bug 827581: Unify JS_GetStringCharsZAndLength with JS_GetStringCharsAndLength. r=wmccloskey
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210. # [01:25] <tabraldes> shot-in-the-dark in case someone knows off-hand: I've moved browser/components/migration to toolkit/components/migration and now I'm getting "unresolved external symbol __imp__NS_LogAddRef in nsIEHistoryEnumerator::AddRef" and 10 other XPCOM-y unresolved symbols. Is there an obvious fix to get my builds running?
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233. # [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e62fcee5ce5e - Benoit Girard - Bug 840415 - Add gmock. r=ted
234. # [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/351462147f91 - Benoit Girard - Bug 767231 - Part 2: Add a sample TiledLayerBuffer test. r=ted,bjacob
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311. # [02:52] <tabraldes> is there a mach command for getting the complete output from the last build?
312. # [02:53] <tabraldes> (if you didn't specify a logfile for the last build)
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314. # [02:55] <gps> tabraldes: no but there is a bug on file somewhere!
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317. # [02:57] <gps> maybe bug 834468
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320. # [02:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30183a721142 - Josh Matthews - Bug 840739 - Make opening a new URI respect the privacy status of the opener. r=ehsan
321. # [02:59] <ewong> philor I'm looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20006118&tree=Mozilla-Inbound I can't tell if I should file a PROCESS CRASH bug in libGLESv2 or star it with the existing bug 822321
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325. # [03:03] <jdm> ewong: it looks different enough that I would file
326. # [03:03] <ewong> jdm thanks
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340. # [03:08] <ewong> what's the 'secret' of knowing where the bug should be filed?
341. # [03:09] <@bz_away> man
342. # [03:09] <@bz_away> try is such a mess. :(
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344. # [03:10] <Mavericks> bz_away: is there a page/wiki where issues wrt try needs to be fixed ?
345. # [03:10] <Mavericks> *need
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356. # [03:17] <@bz_away> Mavericks: hmm? It just needs more hardware
357. # [03:18] <Mavericks> ok
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360. # [03:19] <sfink> well, there are plenty of things that could be fixed/added, but yeah, the current pain is from overload
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362. # [03:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5520e123f526 - Sid Stamm - Bug 763879 - implement inline stylesheet blocking for CSP (r=dbaron)
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371. # [03:23] * @bz is hating a lot of things today, sadly
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376. # [03:25] <@bz> sfink: heh
377. # [03:26] <@bz> sfink: Just so much broken crap
378. # [03:26] <@bz> sfink: broken test infrastructure, broken tests
379. # [03:26] <@bz> sfink: pyc files make bisecting a pain
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381. # [03:26] <@bz> sfink: and I can't start Linux builds, hence the bisecting to start with
382. # [03:26] <sfink> yeah, I hit that one recently too
383. # [03:26] <Jesse_> bz: i changed the js bisecting script to delete all pyc files
384. # [03:26] <tbsaunde> sfink: what is that bz working on IE?
385. # [03:27] <@bz> sfink: I've spent maybe 3 hours today on real work and the rest on crap-wrangling....
386. # [03:27] <sfink> tbsaunde: no, he just ported Firefox to webkit
387. # [03:27] <@bz> sfink: which is somewhat worse than usual, but not even that much. :(
388. # [03:27] <@bz> sfink: So I'm grouchy.
389. # [03:27] <@bz> Jesse_: the problem is we have pyc files in the srcdir that are not actually python-generated
390. # [03:27] <Jesse_> what??
391. # [03:27] <@bz> Jesse_: and which cause the build to break if deleted, last I checked
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394. # [03:28] <@bz> Jesse_: Or at least that was the case at one point...
395. # [03:28] <@bz> Jesse_: looks like they might be gone noe
396. # [03:28] <@bz> er, now
397. # [03:28] <Mavericks> stale pycs causing issues
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399. # [03:28] * @bz should consider just nuking them all then
400. # [03:28] <Unfocused> iirc, theres a python cli switch to ignore existing pyc files - won't help with subprocesses, but maybe support for propagating that could be added
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402. # [03:29] <sfink> I have some ancient command lines calling runxpcshelltests.py with --xre-path and various other things, from back when I first tried to figure out how to run them
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406. # [03:34] <ewong> can someone point out if https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=19996969&tree=Mozilla-Aurora == bug 842603?
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416. # [03:40] <sfink> seriously, we ought to hire somebody just to follow bz around and fix the various nuisances he runs into
417. # [03:40] <sfink> it would totally be worth it
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420. # [03:41] <darktrojan> that could get recursive quickly
421. # [03:41] <sfink> I know there are whole groups for fixing some of these sorts of problems, but specific targeting would still make sense
422. # [03:43] <sfink> probably shouldn't label the job description "bz's butt wiper", though
423. # [03:43] * sfink is now known as sfink|gone
424. # [03:44] <Unfocused> heh
425. # [03:44] <Unfocused> darktrojan++
426. # [03:45] <Unfocused> sfink|gone: agreed, fwiw
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429. # [03:47] <darktrojan> turns out bz is still working on a nuisance he ran into in 2005, it's just that he found another one while fixing it
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435. # [03:50] <seth> if a patch has two reviewers and a super-reviewer, does that all need to be in the patch message?
436. # [03:50] <seth> r=xxx,yyy sr=zzz or something?
437. # [03:50] <darktrojan> yep
438. # [03:50] <Unfocused> yes and yes
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440. # [03:51] * Unfocused wonders what darktrojan is working on these days
441. # [03:51] <@bz> sfink: lol
442. # [03:51] <@bz> sfink: at some point people were suggesting that for XXXbz comments
443. # [03:52] <darktrojan> Unfocused, I wonder that a lot too
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446. # [03:54] <Unfocused> heh
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452. # [04:01] * seth institutes sr=me
453. # [04:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b8a0abbd54c - Josh Matthews - Bug 842015 - Avoid modifying the root docshell's privacy status when we aren't opening a new toplevel window. r=bz
454. # [04:01] <seth> this is now a thing
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456. # [04:02] <Jesse_> seth: why? not all patches need sr
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463. # [04:06] <seth> possibly i needed a smiley there =)
464. # [04:07] <seth> though honestly if you have super reviewers as fast as bz you don't need sr=me… holy cow!
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466. # [04:09] <@bz> it's not like this was a hard review
467. # [04:10] <@bz> for just the idl... ;)
468. # [04:10] <seth> hehe yeah but still =)
469. # [04:10] * @bz has given up on reviewing the other bits when asked for sr
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475. # [04:20] <ewong> whoa... 19 unstarred on m-b??
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478. # [04:22] <ewong> whoa... philor killed 12 stars in one hit.. O_O
479. # [04:23] <@bz> 7 at one blow?
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481. # [04:23] <@bz> ok
482. # [04:23] <@bz> I give up
483. # [04:23] <@bz> what's the trick to actually running a build on Linux? ;)
484. # [04:24] <@bz> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/bzbarsky/mozilla/vanilla/obj-firefox/dist/bin/libxpcom.so:
485. # [04:24] <@bz> libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
486. # [04:24] <@bz> Couldn't load XPCOM.
487. # [04:24] <@bz> mozilla% ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/xpcshell
488. # [04:24] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/xpcshell: error while loading shared libraries: libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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491. # [04:25] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/run-mozilla.sh ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/xpcshell
492. # [04:25] <@bz> ../obj-firefox/dist/bin/xpcshell: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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494. # [04:25] <@bz> what gives?
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496. # [04:26] <tbsaunde> bz: no clue, try strace maybe
497. # [04:28] <tbsaunde> fwiw when cwd == objdir/dist/bin/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./xpcshell wfm
498. # [04:28] * @bz tries
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501. # [04:28] <@bz> bin% pwd
502. # [04:28] <@bz> bin% env LD_LIBRARY_PATH= ./xpcshell
503. # [04:28] <@bz> ./xpcshell: error while loading shared libraries: libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
504. # [04:28] <@bz> Er, pwd was: /home/bzbarsky/mozilla/vanilla/obj-firefox/dist/bin
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509. # [04:31] <tbsaunde> bz: "interesting" but I have no clue why :(
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513. # [04:36] <@bz> yeah
514. # [04:36] * @bz mutters about Linux
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516. # [04:39] <tbsaunde> bz: have you tried strace? it may help to see where it tries to load the library from
517. # [04:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb7a7827a9a6 - Geoff Brown - Bug 844239: Spacing/indentation consistency for Robocop source; r=jmaher DONTBUILD
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519. # [04:44] <@bz> tbsaunde: I did try.....
520. # [04:44] <@bz> open("/lib/tls/i686/sse2/libxpcom.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
521. # [04:45] <@bz> open("/lib/tls/i686/libxpcom.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
522. # [04:45] <@bz> open("/lib/tls/sse2/libxpcom.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
523. # [04:45] <@bz> open("/lib/tls/libxpcom.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
524. # [04:45] <@bz> open("/lib/i686/sse2/libxpcom.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
525. # [04:45] <@bz> etc
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527. # [04:45] <@bz> i.e. some places in /usr/lib and /lib
528. # [04:45] <@bz> if I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to ., then it finds libxpcom
529. # [04:45] <@bz> But not libxul
530. # [04:46] <@bz> open("./libxul.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 EOVERFLOW (Value too large for defined data type)
531. # [04:46] <@bz> ???
532. # [04:46] <@bz> erm
533. # [04:46] <@bz> that libxul .so is about 2 gigs
534. # [04:47] <@bz> and this is a 32-bit build
535. # [04:47] <@bz> I wonder whether we're failing to mmap it or something
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537. # [04:47] <@bz> Also, 2 gigs????
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545. # [04:49] <@bz> if I strip libxul, xpcshell starts up
546. # [04:49] <@bz> why the heck is this thing ending up 2 gigs in size?
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548. # [04:53] * @bz wonders whether his old gcc is to blame
549. # [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6f8457d3436 - Dave Hylands - Bug 842890 - Fix logic error which made applying updates Later fail. r=marshall_law
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558. # [05:04] <tbsaunde> ugh, this cross compile for linux 32 thing is non trivial :(
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561. # [05:07] <@bz> tbsaunde: heh
562. # [05:07] <@bz> tbsaunde: well, at least now I know what was going wrong, kinda
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565. # [05:07] * @bz is building rev 24f601f285dc now
566. # [05:07] <@bz> and then we'll see
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574. # [05:24] <ewong> guess I'm basically waiting for Win Opt for Callek's m-a push to go green, then that'd means his push is ok?
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577. # [05:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67bee77ac7e3 - Justin Lebar - Bug 842679 - Part 3: Wait for a tab-child to be created before modifying priorities in the ProcessPriorityManager. r=cjones
578. # [05:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/257c5fd48f5a - Justin Lebar - Bug 842679 - Part 1: Fire tab-child-created observer message in ContentChild. r=cjones
579. # [05:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93ccd4912321 - Justin Lebar - Bug 842679 - Part 2: Add PROCESS_PRIORITY_UNKNOWN to hal. r=cjones
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582. # [05:30] <ewong> what kind of orange is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20010934&tree=Mozilla-Inbound?
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584. # [05:31] <philor> the kind that will get someone backed out
585. # [05:32] <ewong> it happened with 5520e123f526
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587. # [05:32] <ewong> so 5520e123f526 is gonna be backed out?
588. # [05:32] <philor> depends on how big a bribe imelven can afford
589. # [05:32] <ewong> lol
590. # [05:33] <@bz> do you take bribes only in cash, or also in kind?
591. # [05:33] <@bz> e.g. if I showed up with some goods you want
592. # [05:33] <@bz> say a big pile of snow
593. # [05:34] <philor> snow? I love snow!
594. # [05:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d8799803f37 - Chris Peterson - Bug 842931 - Remove unused private member variable nsPKCS12Blob::mTmpFilePath. r=bsmith
595. # [05:34] * @bz has lots of snow, and probably more to come
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598. # [05:34] <@bz> The one problem is if I show up at the airport with it, the TSA folks might not let it through security
599. # [05:34] <@bz> esp. if the line is too long.
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602. # [05:35] <Jesse_> because by the time you get to the front of the line, it will be a liquid?
603. # [05:36] <imelven> philor: in my defense i can only offer https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=67641f5d771f
604. # [05:37] <@bz> Jesse_: exactly
605. # [05:37] <@bz> mozilla% ls -l ../obj-firefox/toolkit/library/libxul.so
606. # [05:37] <@bz> -rwx------. 1 bzbarsky bzbarsky 2596511512 2013-02-22 23:33 ../obj-firefox/toolkit/library/libxul.so*
607. # [05:37] <philor> imelven: that's... a rather weak defense ;)
608. # [05:37] <@bz> Can someone explain to me that size? ;)
609. # [05:37] <philor> what with the way it has the b2g m8 and m9 failures I'm backing it out over
610. # [05:38] <imelven> yeah, i see the b2g m9 never finished on arm opt :(
611. # [05:38] <imelven> fair enough !
612. # [05:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be239b15a0f1 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 5520e123f526 (bug 763879) for b2g mochitest-8 and mochitest-9 failures
613. # [05:39] <@bz> It's 74MB after I strip it
614. # [05:39] <@bz> which still seems like a lot
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617. # [05:40] <philor> yay, got my green ts in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Beta&rev=ea9db75d9630
618. # [05:40] <@bz> Are they crossed, these Ts?
619. # [05:41] <philor> they make me cross, does that count?
620. # [05:41] <@bz> maybe
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629. # [05:44] <ewong> should m-i be closed to wait for the mochitest-9 to be green?
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693. # [07:19] <philor> so, umm, how did bug 700022 cause permaorange in webgl-color-test.html, and why are we starring a permaorange as intermittent?
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724. # [07:57] <jaws> ehsan: thanks!
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729. # [08:05] <Unfocused> no more stripes \o/
730. # [08:05] <Unfocused> (ignoring faststripe for now)
731. # [08:06] <jaws> just need to rm -rf faststripe :)
732. # [08:07] <jaws> i mean the os2 theme
733. # [08:07] <jaws> previously known as pmstripe
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735. # [08:09] <@dolske> os/2 guys are still around, right?
736. # [08:10] <@dolske> at least, they had been maintaining it far beyond the lifetime of os/2, but dunno if they're still doing stuff.
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746. # [08:25] <jaws> ok, well it's not costing us much to keep around
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748. # [08:27] <gaston> kinda strange to still see os/2 code in tree while beos/haiku code was removed.. and it's much more alive :)
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761. # [08:37] * darktrojan hopes it's not in a folder called os/2
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763. # [08:38] * jaws waves to darktrojan
764. # [08:38] <darktrojan> hello!
765. # [08:38] <jaws> hi! nice to see you around again :)
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767. # [08:39] <darktrojan> good to see you too
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771. # [08:39] <jaws> darktrojan: fix any bugs lately?
772. # [08:40] <darktrojan> 0
773. # [08:40] <darktrojan> my hg access has probably been revoked actually
774. # [08:40] <jaws> how come?
775. # [08:40] <jaws> just lack of use?
776. # [08:40] <darktrojan> haven't pushed anything!
777. # [08:40] <jaws> ah, but there's still checkin-needed
778. # [08:41] <darktrojan> so what you're saying is 'fix some bugs dammit'
779. # [08:41] <darktrojan> :)
780. # [08:41] <jaws> darktrojan: hehe, yeah that'd be great! i've got some bugs that i
781. # [08:41] <jaws> i'd like some help with,
782. # [08:41] <jaws> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=5750269;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard;type0-0-0=substring;value0-0-0=mentor%3Djaws;known_name=Mentored%20bugs2;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;resolution=---;query_based_on=Mentored%20bugs2;query_format=advanced;bug_status=UNCONFIRME
783. # [08:41] <jaws> D;bug_status=NEW;bug_status=ASSIGNED;product=Core;product=Firefox;product=Toolkit
784. # [08:41] <jaws> http://bit.ly/YjEyUa
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786. # [08:42] <darktrojan> that's a few
787. # [08:42] * darktrojan goes to check the state of his tree
788. # [08:42] <jaws> \o/
789. # [08:43] <darktrojan> changeset: 104225:6705e131aeaa
790. # [08:43] <darktrojan> date: Tue Sep 04 21:45:09 2012 -0400
791. # [08:43] <darktrojan> heh
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800. # [08:53] <gaston> hmmm what happened recently to have a huge growth in objdir size ?
801. # [08:53] <gaston> 4.6G /usr/obj/m-c
802. # [08:53] <gaston> this used to be < 3g..
803. # [08:54] <@dolske> omg fix teh HD leak!!!!1!
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806. # [08:55] <gaston> 336346082 Feb 20 23:10 libjs_static.a
807. # [08:55] <gaston> whoa
808. # [08:55] <gaston> hmm no not that one, i thought it was 3gb for a while
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812. # [08:59] <gaston> i used to have 4 or 5 full objdirs in a 14gb partition, now it doesnt fit anymore..
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817. # [09:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e162098b76d9 - Mike Hommey - Bug 841740 - Work around l10n repack bustage with --enable-metro. r=jimm,r=Callek DONTBUILD
818. # [09:04] <gaston> i suppose theres no monitoring for objdir sizes on the build infra ?
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823. # [09:11] <@khuey> gaston: nope
824. # [09:11] <@khuey> why what did we do?
825. # [09:13] <gaston> i've seen a sudden increase in objdir size, wondering what changed in that area
826. # [09:13] <gaston> it used to be around 3gb (some weeks ago id say) not it's 4.6...
827. # [09:13] <gaston> s/not/now/
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852. # [09:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12db97d6f41f - L. David Baron - Backed out changesets 917205c79822 and e9ef1f1aa47d (bug 841413) for causing mochitest-chrome failure.
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865. # [09:54] <Yoric> "abort: popping would remove an immutable revision"
866. # [09:54] <Yoric> Oh great, what have I gotten into?
867. # [09:54] <Yoric> (best guess: |hg pull -u| without |hg qpop -a|)
868. # [09:56] <Yoric> Ah, found this in the documentation of TryServer.
869. # [09:57] <Yoric> I guess that was me upgrading from hg 1.x to 2.5.1.
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873. # [10:02] <gaston> whohooo i got netwerk/sctp to build on OpenBSD !
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891. # [10:21] <Ms2ger> Yoric, yep, it was
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896. # [10:33] <darktrojan> KWierso|Home, pass the popcorn
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898. # [10:36] <KWierso|Home> darktrojan: eh, you can have it all, 1:30am's my naptime :)
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903. # [10:44] <reuben> why are we so bad at this? http://jsperf.com/lgvjylzkbriy
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905. # [10:46] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a question for #jsapi
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931. # [11:16] <ewong> holy crap.. 42 unstarred?
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949. # [11:37] <ewong> Ms2ger: ping
950. # [11:37] <Ms2ger> Yes?
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954. # [11:38] <ewong> Ms2ger: about the R6 orange.. I've seen something like that before, but it isn't suggesting any bugs.. do I file or is this something else?
955. # [11:38] <ewong> Ms2ger: that is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20017957&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
956. # [11:39] <ewong> it was in ehsan's push.. and is in the backout of his push.. so something earlier is responsible for the R6?
957. # [11:40] * Ms2ger looks
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962. # [11:46] <ewong> hmm
963. # [11:48] <ewong> whoa.. is tbpl down?
964. # [11:49] <ewong> err is anyone seeing this?
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966. # [11:50] * Ms2ger twiddles thumbs
967. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> It's not very happy, that much is clear
968. # [11:50] <ewong> hmm
969. # [11:50] <ewong> so it's not just me that tbpl isn't loading
970. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> And treestatus is dead
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972. # [11:51] <Ms2ger> I'll see if I can figure it out :)
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985. # [12:15] <KWierso|Home> Ms2ger: seems to be loading for me, now :)
986. # [12:16] * KWierso|Home resumes pretending to be asleep
987. # [12:17] <Ms2ger> Out with you! ;)
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989. # [12:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9a072cd24f07 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ec2-636 - a=blocklist-update
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991. # [12:20] <Ms2ger> Any ircops around to whack WOOHOO?
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1005. # [12:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cd4402b41864 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 842442 - Return NO_DEVICES_FOUND error when only video or only audio is requested with no suitable device available. r=dolske
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1023. # [13:27] <ewong> that R6 is showing its head again
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1026. # [13:30] <jfkthame> yeah - i see philor backed out my tests from yesterday because of that, but it didn't take it long to reappear
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1033. # [13:38] <@smaug> uh, how do I see the usual debug build output when running mochitests
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1040. # [13:47] <Ms2ger> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=181787e9d670&tochange=788c24847525
1041. # [13:48] <jfkthame> Ms2ger: hmm?
1042. # [13:49] <Ms2ger> Actually, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=181787e9d670&tochange=78c3801aed19
1043. # [13:49] <Ms2ger> AFAICT
1044. # [13:49] <jfkthame> is this the R6 you're trying to pin down?
1045. # [13:50] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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1052. # [13:52] * jfkthame notes that 99387b4b9731 got a couple of nice green runs
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1054. # [13:53] <Ms2ger> Hrm
1055. # [13:53] * Ms2ger gets more confused
1056. # [13:53] <jfkthame> as did d0ef7c57f220
1057. # [13:53] <jfkthame> (just the one run, but still, nice and green)
1058. # [13:54] <Ms2ger> Appears on your push, disappears on the backout, and then just comes back?
1059. # [13:55] <jfkthame> so yes, it looks like philor was right in bug 844165 that it started with ac6dff6a0811 (my push), but as i noted in 700022, it reappeared after the backout
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1061. # [13:56] <jfkthame> looking at the annotations in content/canvas/test/reftest/reftest.list does not give me a great deal of confidence in those tests on b2g in general, fwiw
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1063. # [13:57] <MrDHat> I am trying to fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817158 in gaia. The update options use an option value and an l10-id.
1064. # [13:57] <MrDHat> <option value="2592000" data-l10n-id="check-update-monthly">Monthly</option>
1065. # [13:57] <MrDHat> I wanna know as to how to specify the option value and l10-id for "Never"
1066. # [13:57] <@smaug> MrDHat: better to ask #b2g
1067. # [13:57] <jfkthame> or #gaia ?
1068. # [13:58] <@smaug> or is there also #gaia
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1070. # [13:58] <MrDHat> Yeah, was on gaia earlier but got no response. Seems like i've gotta wait :)
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1074. # [14:00] <MrDHat> btw does anyone know, who's the app driver for contacts app in gaia?
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1077. # [14:01] <@smaug> still wrong channel for b2g/gaia specific questions ;)
1078. # [14:01] * @smaug doesn't even know what "app driver" means
1079. # [14:02] <MrDHat> maybe mantainer's the right word :)
1080. # [14:04] * @smaug would look at the git annotation
1081. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> So...
1082. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> The passing runs seem to start with webgl-color-test.html?aa&_____&depth&_______&________&stencil
1083. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> And the failing ones with webgl-color-test.html?__&alpha&depth&_______&________&stencil
1084. # [14:06] <jfkthame> ah, i suspected something like that but hadn't done the proper comparsion yet - so i think it depends on exactly how the test harness breaks things up into chunks
1085. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> Looks like it
1086. # [14:07] <jfkthame> in other words, any push that adds or removes any reftest anywhere in the entire list risks disturbing it
1087. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> Yep!
1088. # [14:07] <jfkthame> because it will change the chunk boundaries
1089. # [14:08] * jfkthame thinks we should just disable the tests and file a webgl bug about the flakiness
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1091. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> Oh, dear
1092. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> I only just noticed now that it's not actually the same tests failing
1093. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> 03:28:49 ?__&alpha&depth&_______&________&stencil | image comparison (==), max difference: 255, number of differing pixels: 49268
1094. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> 03:28:56 ?aa&alpha&depth&_______&________&stencil | image comparison (==), max difference: 255, number of differing pixels: 49268
1095. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> 23:05:12 ?__&alpha&depth&premult&________&stencil | image comparison (==), max difference: 255, number of differing pixels: 49269
1096. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> 23:05:19 ?aa&alpha&depth&premult&________&stencil | image comparison (==), max difference: 255, number of differing pixels: 49269
1097. # [14:09] <jfkthame> did those runs start at exactly the same place?
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1099. # [14:10] * Ms2ger looks
1100. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> No, it's always the first two tests in R6
1101. # [14:11] <Ms2ger> Lemme just go ahead and do some disabling...
1102. # [14:12] <jfkthame> i suspect you'll potentially need to disable the whole set, otherwise it'll just recur as soon as we land more tests elsewhere
1103. # [14:12] <@smaug> so does anyone remember how to see the debug output when running mochitest
1104. # [14:12] <@smaug> for some odd reason it is hidden by default
1105. # [14:12] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that was the plan :)
1106. # [14:12] <jfkthame> good!
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1113. # [14:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5cc4349f6d7 - Ms2ger - Bug 844439 - Disable webgl-color-test.html reftests on B2G for R6 oranges on a CLOSED TREE.
1114. # [14:19] <jfkthame> yay!
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1117. # [14:21] <jfkthame> that looks pretty comprehensive
1118. # [14:22] <jfkthame> let's just hope webgl-color-alpha-test isn't next in line
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1120. # [14:23] * Ms2ger crosses fingers
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1127. # [14:26] <Ms2ger> I'm going to leave the tree closed for a little longer...
1128. # [14:26] <jfkthame> yeah, i think that's wise
1129. # [14:27] <Ms2ger> To quote, apparently, Lenin: "Trust is good, but control is better."
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1132. # [14:30] <jfkthame> thanks - i'll come back later and hope to re-land my innocent testcases :)
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1134. # [14:31] <Ms2ger> I'll do it if I get here first :)
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1148. # [14:47] <darkowlzz> hi, I have been trying to use mozmill commandline, but it doesn't work. I think I am missing something. After installing mozmill using pip and updating it, I created a file, 'open.js' http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2169848 . Then I did, mozmill open.js -b <path to firefox>. A new instance of FF opens up but it doesn't opens new tab and goto google.com as per the code in the test file.
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1150. # [14:47] <darkowlzz> what am I doing wrong or missing?
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1153. # [14:53] <GPHemsley> khuey|away: Do you happen to know why there are separate decoders for "ICO" and "Icon" (which seem to me to be the same file format)?
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1158. # [14:55] <wg9s> Ms2ger: ping
1159. # [14:55] <Ms2ger> Yes?
1160. # [14:55] <@smaug> GPHemsley: look at the blame?
1161. # [14:56] <wg9s> when the dust settles on inbound, could you re-trigger the linux 32-bit nightly?
1162. # [14:56] <Ms2ger> No, but I can retrigger them all :)
1163. # [14:57] <GPHemsley> smaug: It's not clear from the blame. 'Icon' seems to be older; 'ICO' seems to have grown out of 'BMP', with bug 513681
1164. # [14:57] <wg9s> well not sure that is what is required. just wanted to re-do the build that hit the compiler bug.
1165. # [14:58] <Ms2ger> Compiler bug?
1166. # [14:59] <wg9s> segmentation fault in ionbuilder there is an intermittent bug on this issue. bug 820796
1167. # [14:59] <Ms2ger> Ah
1168. # [14:59] <jfkthame> you mean the red N on bbondy's push? can't you just retrigger that build, then?
1169. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> Done
1170. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> I thought you wanted one for tip
1171. # [15:01] <GPHemsley> smaug: Ah, actually, I misunderstood the move. 'Icon' is indeed older by a couple of months; 'ICO' was added with bug 18502
1172. # [15:01] <wg9s> thanks!
1173. # [15:01] <jfkthame> hmm, tip could use a little starring love …
1174. # [15:01] * jfkthame looks around for dao
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1176. # [15:03] <GPHemsley> smaug: In particular, it's not clear to me why 'Icon' is separate from 'ICO'; the former has very little code compared to the latter.
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1179. # [15:04] <@smaug> hmm, odd stuff indeed
1180. # [15:06] <GPHemsley> Should I file a bug?
1181. # [15:06] <tbsaunde> glandium: ping
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1183. # [15:07] <GPHemsley> smaug: I'm gonna file a bug
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1185. # [15:08] <evilpie> Ms2ger: can we implement the webidl constructor for blob already? http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/#blob
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1187. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> evilpie, don't we?
1188. # [15:10] <evilpie> Codgen.py throws an error
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1190. # [15:10] <evilpie> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2169958
1191. # [15:11] <Ms2ger> Oh, you're webidlizing Blob?
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1193. # [15:12] <evilpie> yes
1194. # [15:12] <GPHemsley> smaug: Ah, hmm. The Icon header file has a bit more information.
1195. # [15:12] <evilpie> at least trying ^^
1196. # [15:12] <GPHemsley> smaug: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/cd4402b41864/image/decoders/nsIconDecoder.h#l21
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1198. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> bz_sleep, or peterv :)
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1200. # [15:15] <@smaug> Ms2ger is so going to like this. One test fails because DOMAttr isn't currently EventTarget, only nsIDOMEventTarget.
1201. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> Neat
1202. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> It still inherits nsINode, doesn't it?
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1204. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> Did someone break the QI implementation?
1205. # [15:16] <@smaug> Ms2ger: yes, but QI is wrong
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1207. # [15:16] <GPHemsley> smaug: "We've defined our own little format" — Any idea what that format might be, or where it's defined?
1208. # [15:16] <@smaug> dunno
1209. # [15:16] <@smaug> I'd ask joe
1210. # [15:17] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I can probably blame myself, since I think I reviewed the EventTarget patch
1211. # [15:17] <GPHemsley> smaug: Because the underlying MIME type seems to be based off of or inspired by the original ICO format.
1212. # [15:17] <GPHemsley> smaug, joe: Can you guess which is ICO and which is Icon? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/mime/nsMimeTypes.h#98
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1214. # [15:17] <GPHemsley> (And who defined what?)
1215. # [15:18] <GPHemsley> (without looking it up!)
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1220. # [15:22] <@smaug> oh, this test is also broken
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1222. # [15:23] <@smaug> GPHemsley: sorry, I'm not really familiar with image handling
1223. # [15:23] <@smaug> joe and khuey|away should know better
1224. # [15:23] <GPHemsley> alright, thanks
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1226. # [15:27] <tbsaunde> smaug: perhaps you know about building linux32 on linux64?
1227. # [15:27] <@smaug> tbsaunde: well, I use linux
1228. # [15:27] <@smaug> but don't know more
1229. # [15:28] <@smaug> never cross-compiled Gecko
1230. # [15:28] <tbsaunde> smaug: yeah, just figured I'd try since you were around
1231. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, the way I'd do it involves pushing to try ;)
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1234. # [15:29] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: hm, I sort of thought try always stripped which would sort of suck for debugging but worth a shot I guess
1235. # [15:30] <Ms2ger> Ah, hmm
1236. # [15:30] <Ms2ger> Debugging probably would suck, yes
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1238. # [15:30] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: well, I should be able to hack configure to fix that I think
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1241. # [15:31] <Ms2ger> I think there should be a symbol server for try
1242. # [15:31] <Ms2ger> Maybe khuey knows
1243. # [15:33] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: does that work with linux? I think I ended up giving up the last time I teied
1244. # [15:33] <Ms2ger> I'm not sure I ever tried :)
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1246. # [15:36] <@khuey> there is a symbol server for try
1247. # [15:36] <@khuey> and release
1248. # [15:36] <@khuey> only works for windows those, afaik
1249. # [15:37] <@khuey> GPHemsley: ICO is some MS specific thing, Icon is a cross platform bitmap format
1250. # [15:38] <GPHemsley> khuey: But they both, AFAICT, use the same file extension and have the same byte signature
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1262. # [15:59] <@khuey> the tree is closed :-(
1263. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> Indeed
1264. # [15:59] * Ms2ger looks
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1267. # [16:04] <wg9s> Ms2ger: hmm that push did not seem to run R6. What is that about?
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1269. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> wg9s, looks like it has run, but hasn't yet appeared on tbpl
1270. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> Self-serve thinks it passed
1271. # [16:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b2dd6bc0e63 - Jonathan Kew - bug 700022 - pt 1 - reftests to check that graphite is working. r=jdaggett
1272. # [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd6d61e42762 - Jonathan Kew - bug 700022 - pt 2 - reftests for lang-tag handling in graphite shaper. r=jdaggett
1273. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> khuey, tree is open
1274. # [16:07] <jfkthame> Ms2ger: thanks, let's hope they stick this time!
1275. # [16:07] * @khuey shakes his fist at jfkthame
1276. # [16:08] <jfkthame> :P
1277. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> khuey, I pushed :)
1278. # [16:08] * @khuey shakes his fist at Ms2ger
1279. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> Better
1280. # [16:08] * jfkthame gangs up with Ms2ger against khuey
1281. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> jfkthame, I expect they will
1282. # [16:08] <jfkthame> so do i
1283. # [16:08] * Ms2ger steps back and leaves the tree to philor
1284. # [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ee9a76cb582 - Kyle Huey - Bug 816498: Fix some things about background attribute handling that are still broken. r=bz
1285. # [16:10] <wg9s> Ms2ger: ah that happens also if the log is not yet available.
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1308. # [16:43] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: hav you thought about replaceing thread_local with the mfbt thing in ipc/ ?
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1319. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, no, thinking about threads makes my head hurt :)
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1343. # [17:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfefa8d06ac0 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 836072 - Validate the arguments to AudioParam.exponentialRampToValueAtTime() correctly; r=roc
1344. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> Does for me
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1347. # [17:24] <jdm> gavin: ping
1348. # [17:24] <jdm> alternatively glob: ping
1349. # [17:24] <jdm> there's a bugzilla spammer at work
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1362. # [17:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/956926216a6e - Ehsan Akhgari - Merge mozilla-central into mozilla-inbound
1363. # [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e162098b76d9 - Mike Hommey - Bug 841740 - Work around l10n repack bustage with --enable-metro. r=jimm,r=Callek DONTBUILD
1364. # [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a072cd24f07 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ec2-636 - a=blocklist-update
1365. # [17:38] <Callek> yay!
1366. # [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd4402b41864 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 842442 - Return NO_DEVICES_FOUND error when only video or only audio is requested with no suitable device available. r=dolske
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1415. # [18:04] <wg9s> whats worng with TBPL? all I get is service unavailable?
1416. # [18:04] <wg9s> s/worng/wrong/
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1419. # [18:08] <@khuey> uh
1420. # [18:08] <@khuey> tbpl is down
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1422. # [18:08] <@khuey> Ms2ger: can you close the tree?
1423. # [18:08] * @khuey doesn't know how to do it anymore
1424. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> Sure
1425. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> Treestatus is down too
1426. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> Which means that we should effectively be closed
1427. # [18:10] <@khuey> mmm
1428. # [18:10] <@khuey> fun
1429. # [18:10] <@khuey> where do I file this bug?
1430. # [18:10] <@khuey> IT? Releng?
1431. # [18:10] <Callek> khuey: Ms2ger just reported it to IT in IRC
1432. # [18:10] <@khuey> ok
1433. # [18:10] <Callek> they're on it
1434. # [18:10] * Callek is finding out about bug now
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1436. # [18:10] <@khuey> cool
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1438. # [18:11] <Callek> khuey: can you file a "basic" bug in serverOps:: don't mark it blocking since IT is already working on it, and CC release@
1439. # [18:11] <Callek> please and thank you
1440. # [18:11] <@khuey> sure
1441. # [18:12] * Callek isn't sure yet what the "actual" issue is, only that IT is working on it
1442. # [18:12] <@khuey> Callek: 844474
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1444. # [18:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e42d9a3abf17 - James Willcox - Bug 844468 - Work around missing GL_OES_EGL_sync in Adreno r=vlad
1445. # [18:13] <Callek> khuey: thanks -- fwiw at this moment anyway, TBPL seems back up
1446. # [18:13] * Callek isn't sure if thats coincidence or active fixed :-)
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1448. # [18:14] <@khuey> it's down for me
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1451. # [18:14] <wg9s> yes seems to be more intermittent than down solid.
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1454. # [18:16] <wg9s> actually seems like it might be better now.
1455. # [18:16] <wg9s> works efvery time for me now.
1456. # [18:16] <Callek> khuey: shift+reload?
1457. # [18:16] <wg9s> yes
1458. # [18:16] * philor|away is now known as philor
1459. # [18:17] <Ms2ger> Always fun when thunderbird suddenly uses 3.3GiB of memory
1460. # [18:17] <wg9s> so evidently was a temporary outage. woudl benice to figure out what it was but no reason to close the treee probably.
1461. # [18:17] <wg9s> s/treee/tree/
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1465. # [18:23] <Ms2ger> Aand again
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1468. # [18:26] <@khuey> Callek: looks like its back up
1469. # [18:26] <Callek> great!
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1472. # [18:29] <dmose> what's a simple build-time way to disable crash-on-assert for a demo?
1473. # [18:29] * @khuey wonders why there are no 32 bit linux tests running on his push
1474. # [18:30] <dmose> this is for fennec, so setting an env var before each start would be painful
1475. # [18:31] <Ms2ger> #undef DEBUG
1476. # [18:31] <dmose> Ms2ger: you mean we don't crash on asserts by default in nightly opt builds?
1477. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> What makes you think we even evaluate assertions in opt builds?
1478. # [18:32] <@smaug> asserts are debug only
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1480. # [18:32] <@smaug> and have always been
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1482. # [18:33] <dmose> i'm probably confusing the behavior of mozilla ASSERT macros and assert(2)
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1484. # [18:33] <NeilAway> !seen ehsan
1485. # [18:33] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 17 hours, 57 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying 'RyanVM: thanks' in #developers.
1486. # [18:33] <dmose> er, assert(3)
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1488. # [18:34] <@smaug> assert(3) requires debug mode too
1489. # [18:34] <@smaug> er, no
1490. # [18:35] <@smaug> uh, right
1491. # [18:35] * dmose chuckles
1492. # [18:35] <@smaug> too many years when I've used assert last time
1493. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> Oh, really?
1494. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> Sounds like we should kill those, then
1495. # [18:36] * dmose vaguely remembers the flame wars about mozilla's macros being confusing because they behave differently than the way most C and C++ programmers expect things named "assert" to work
1496. # [18:36] <@smaug> hmm, assert(3) is no-op if NDEBUG is defined
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1498. # [18:36] <Ms2ger> C/C++ programmers have expectations?
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1500. # [18:36] <dmose> ROFL
1501. # [18:37] <wg9s> I think the probel is that we use asserts for two different types of things.
1502. # [18:37] <@smaug> dmose: you remember the times of NS_ASSERTION
1503. # [18:37] <@smaug> MOZ_ASSERT is better
1504. # [18:37] <Ms2ger> The only expectation I have with a new C++ project is pain
1505. # [18:37] <@smaug> dmose: NS_ASSERTION is warning only, by default
1506. # [18:37] <dmose> oh, MOZ_ASSERT is different than NS_ASSERTION?
1507. # [18:37] <wg9s> one is we have a funciton or API or something which has rules about the parmaters passed and we assert those rules.
1508. # [18:37] <dmose> well, there ya go
1509. # [18:38] <@smaug> dmose: MOZ_ASSERT aborts on debug builds
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1511. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> And then there's MOZ_CRASH, which always aborts
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1515. # [18:38] <@smaug> and RUNTIMEABORT and whatnot
1516. # [18:39] <dmose> ok, so i've just been told that that MOZ_ASSERT* does crash on non-debug try server builds?
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1518. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> Nonsense
1519. # [18:39] <dmose> well, presumably the try server configs _coudl_ enable that behavior
1520. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> They don't
1521. # [18:39] <flo-retina> Ms2ger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844399#c6
1522. # [18:39] <wg9s> the second is that we are deep someplace in code and we need to know that the thing we are working on is valid and we got passed eiathe null pinter or somthin that does nto look likethe type of thing that was supposed to be passed. In the later case having it fail in non-debug would be better than just letting things go forth and create crash dumps to late for us to ascertain the real issue.
1523. # [18:40] <@smaug> that comment is about NS_ASSERTION behavior, I think
1524. # [18:40] <@smaug> could be wrong
1525. # [18:41] <@smaug> I am
1526. # [18:41] <@smaug> since we'd crash all the time
1527. # [18:41] <@smaug> not sure what that comment is about :)
1528. # [18:43] <wg9s> was trying to say we use NS_ASSERTION for 2 differnet things. one to make sure people are using funcitons and APIs as defined and the other we are at a point where somthing that we are working with does not conform to what we expect. (should have probably been caught erlier by the first case)
1529. # [18:44] <wg9s> but then we have the should it be fatal or not in the two cases might have a different answer. that is all I was trying to say.
1530. # [18:44] <dmose> smaug: flo-retina: it's certainly true that the assertion mentioned in the bug is NS_ASSERTION
1531. # [18:44] <dmose> brb
1532. # [18:45] <jesup|mac> dmose is referring to the fact that NS_ASSERTION in debug builds crashes if built on Try and downloaded, or at least on Windows it did/does. Really freaky.
1533. # [18:45] <@smaug> *debug* build
1534. # [18:45] <@smaug> yes
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1537. # [18:45] <Ms2ger> "non-debug try server builds"
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1539. # [18:46] <jesup|mac> I wasted a week trying to figure out how to debug a Try build to figure out why local builds worked, and Try builds crashed. (Getting syms for windows try builds is ... interesting. And painful.)
1540. # [18:46] <jesup|mac> debug try builds
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1542. # [18:46] <Ms2ger> That's not what dmose said
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1544. # [18:47] <dmose> it's true, i said something else
1545. # [18:47] <dmose> and i now realize that i don't know whether the build i was testing was debug or n ot
1546. # [18:47] <flo-retina> jesup|mac: were you talking about debug builds in #media earlier today?
1547. # [18:47] <flo-retina> dmose: ooooh!
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1550. # [18:47] <jesup|mac> dmose: if NS_ASSERTION fired, its a debug build :-)
1551. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> ^
1552. # [18:47] <jesup|mac> flo-retina: yes
1553. # [18:47] <dmose> ok, good
1554. # [18:47] <dmose> that seems like more sensible behavior
1555. # [18:48] <jesup|mac> Sorry, wasn't very awake yet then
1556. # [18:48] <flo-retina> dmose: to such an output https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844399#c1 you were likely on a debug build
1557. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> If NS_ASSERTION fired, why are you still using NS_ASSERTION? ;)
1558. # [18:48] <dmose> flo-retina: quite right
1559. # [18:48] <jesup|mac> Ms2ger: Ask roc :-)
1560. # [18:49] <jesup|mac> We mostly use MOZ_ASSERT (or MOZ_CRASH)
1561. # [18:49] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: you want a non fatal assert?
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1563. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, no, you don't :)
1564. # [18:49] <dmose> and so it begins
1565. # [18:49] * dmose gets some popcorn
1566. # [18:49] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: no, sometimes I do :p
1567. # [18:49] * Ms2ger curses
1568. # [18:49] <jesup|mac> I'm going through and making a bunch of MOZ_ASSERTs fatal in opt/release builds, at least for now, in webrtc for security and bug-reporting reasons
1569. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> What the hell is wrong with thunderbird?
1570. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, alright, use NS_WARNING
1571. # [18:50] <jesup|mac> NS_WARING_IF_FALSE ;-)
1572. # [18:50] <jesup|mac> WARNING even
1573. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> WARN, even
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1575. # [18:51] <jesup|mac> :-)
1576. # [18:53] <jesup|mac> Question: If we have some JS code, and it calls down into an XPCOM interface/object, how would one end up entering a JS Observer (for xpcom-shutdown) without having exited the XPCOM call back to JS?
1577. # [18:53] <@khuey> spinning the event loop?
1578. # [18:53] <Ms2ger> ^
1579. # [18:53] <jesup|mac> Could the XPCOM using Dispatch() with NS_DISPATCH_SYNC be involved? (spins the mainthread event loop)
1580. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> Yes
1581. # [18:54] <jesup|mac> Amusing timing
1582. # [18:54] <jesup|mac> I was afraid so.....
1583. # [18:54] <@khuey> are you using DISPATCH_SYNC on the main thread?
1584. # [18:54] <jesup|mac> I'm worried someone is (oh ekr.....)
1585. # [18:54] <@khuey> as in, the main thread is sync dispatching to another thread?
1586. # [18:55] <@khuey> if so, r-
1587. # [18:55] <jesup|mac> khuey: I'm going to track down the offender and nuke them orbit (or at least the offending Dispatch)
1588. # [18:56] <@khuey> good
1589. # [18:56] * @khuey lends jesup|mac his axe
1590. # [18:56] <ekr> hello.
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1592. # [18:57] <derf> ekr: Is TransportLayer::RunOnThread entirely unused?
1593. # [18:57] <tbsaunde> khuey: when jesup|mac is done can we just add if (NS_IsMainThread()) moz_crash(); ?
1594. # [18:57] <ekr> derf: it's possible it is, there has been some bitrot.
1595. # [18:57] <jesup|mac> tbsaunde: good idea
1596. # [18:57] <@khuey> tbsaunde: for sync dispatch? we probably should
1597. # [18:57] <@khuey> tbsaunde: need to run it by bsmedberg-away
1598. # [18:57] <jesup|mac> jib's problems with shutdown say it is happening
1599. # [18:58] <ekr> jesup: if I remember correctly, that was you who wrote that code.
1600. # [18:58] <ekr> i.e. ShutdownMedia(aIsSynchronous)
1601. # [18:58] <jesup|mac> Well then, r- me.
1602. # [18:59] <dmose> ROFL
1603. # [19:01] <derf> Doesn't ShutdownMedia dispatch from the main thread back to the main thread?
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1605. # [19:01] <derf> It's the dispatch in PeerConnectionMedia::SelfDestruct() that dispatches from main thread to STS thread.
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1607. # [19:02] <ekr> Reading that code, one of three things happens:
1608. # [19:02] <ekr> 1. It is on the main thread in which case it just runs
1609. # [19:02] <ekr> 2. It is off the main thread and aSynchronous==false, in which case it does a normal dispatch to the main thread
1610. # [19:02] <ekr> 3. It is off the main thread and aSynchronous==true oin which case it does a sync dispatch to the main thread
1611. # [19:02] <ekr> IIRC, case 3 is when it is running from the GC thread
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1613. # [19:03] <ekr> oh, sorry, not GC, but the network teardown case
1614. # [19:03] <ekr> (note: RUN_ON_THREAD has shortcut execution when you are on the thread in the first argument)
1615. # [19:03] <derf> Isn't there a PC_AUTO_ENTER_API_CALL_NO_CHECK() at the top of the function?
1616. # [19:03] <jesup|mac> Yeah, but case 3 is I believe always mainthread to mainthread
1617. # [19:03] <derf> We know what thread it's on.
1618. # [19:04] <ekr> yes, yes, there is.
1619. # [19:04] <derf> So why isn't this always case 1?
1620. # [19:04] <ekr> This seems like it got bitrotted to hell and back
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1622. # [19:04] <ekr> because the comments totally don't match what it actually does.
1623. # [19:04] <ekr> Which may well have been my fault.
1624. # [19:04] <derf> I blame the reviewer.
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1626. # [19:05] <derf> At least assuming I was the reviewer.
1627. # [19:05] <ekr> In any case, let's ask what the semantics are supposed to be.
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1629. # [19:05] <jesup|mac> derf: no, ekr, smaug and bsmith
1630. # [19:05] <ekr> Which seem to be either:
1631. # [19:05] <ekr> (1) if aSynchronous == true, just run the SelfDestruct
1632. # [19:05] <ekr> (2) if aSynchronous==false, report
1633. # [19:05] <ekr> re-post
1634. # [19:06] <ekr> but the RUN_ON_THREAD short-circuits that.
1635. # [19:06] <derf> Yeah.
1636. # [19:06] <derf> That made no sense to me.
1637. # [19:06] <ekr> but we should now ask why we are re-posting
1638. # [19:07] <derf> Because "reentrancy issues with the garbage collector".
1639. # [19:07] <derf> Whatever those are.
1640. # [19:07] <jesup|mac> We should verify if ShutdownMedia is safe/correct. However, unless we think it's causing the event-loopback-into-JS, there's a DISPATCH_SYNC elsewhere causing this.
1641. # [19:07] <jesup|mac> derf: check with abr on that part (and smaug)
1642. # [19:07] <ekr> So, ShutdownMedia is sync
1643. # [19:07] <@smaug> jesup|mac: what bad code didn't manage to review now?
1644. # [19:07] <derf> jesup|mac: Like I said, there is one ine PeerConnectionMedia::SelfDestruct().
1645. # [19:07] <derf> *in
1646. # [19:07] <ekr> This is now starting to come back to me.
1647. # [19:07] <@smaug> there should be no reentrancy issues with gc
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1649. # [19:08] <@smaug> er
1650. # [19:08] <@smaug> jesup|mac: what bad code did I manage to review now?
1651. # [19:08] <ekr> Here's what happened: PCImpl::ShutdownMedia() can be called transitively out of PCImpl::~PCimpl(), which can be called out of the GC thread
1652. # [19:09] <@smaug> how can gc thread call anything like that?
1653. # [19:09] <jesup|mac> smaug bug 812886 (and another bug on GC of peerconnections you worked on with abr IIRC)
1654. # [19:09] <ekr> how can the GC thread call an object destructor?
1655. # [19:09] <ekr> Because the PCImpl is bound into some DOM object.
1656. # [19:09] <derf> Uh, ~PCimpl always gets called on the main thread.
1657. # [19:09] <derf> There's an assert.
1658. # [19:09] <ekr> hmm....
1659. # [19:09] <@smaug> ekr: GC doesn't call C++ dtors
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1661. # [19:10] <@smaug> GC calls release on main thread
1662. # [19:10] <derf> Yes, exactly.
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1664. # [19:10] <ekr> hmm…. We were definitely seeing something. let's go back to the bug
1665. # [19:10] <derf> If only the comment had a bug number.
1666. # [19:10] <ekr> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811183
1667. # [19:10] <derf> 403
1668. # [19:11] <derf> No wonder I didn't review this.
1669. # [19:11] <@smaug> Bug 812886 was about trying to use already released singleton too late
1670. # [19:12] <ekr> jesup: you may want to think about opening this bug
1671. # [19:12] <jesup|mac> So, jib has evidence that we're calling pcimpl.something()from js, and before it returns we end up in a JS observer for xpcom shutdown. This implies use of DISPATCH_SYNC from mainthread.
1672. # [19:12] <ekr> but that's a decision for someone with security privs
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1676. # [19:13] <ekr> Yes, PCMedia::ShutdownMedia() does this
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1678. # [19:13] <ekr> Sorry ::SelfDestruct()
1679. # [19:14] <jesup|mac> just added people and asked about opening it
1680. # [19:14] <jesup|mac> derf: you can look now
1681. # [19:14] <derf> Anyway, SelfDestruct is easy enough to fix.
1682. # [19:15] <derf> Just proxy Release back to the main thread at the end of ShutdownMediaTransport().
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1685. # [19:15] <jesup|mac> So, ekr, isn't there a DISPATCH_SYNC in AddTransportFlow? Is that on mainthread? (maybe not)
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1687. # [19:15] <ekr> anyway, as you can see from bug 811183, what happened is that we were doing some GC stuff on the main thread (js::GCFinalSlice) and this caused ~PCImpl().
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1689. # [19:16] <ekr> Then we do a DISPATCH_SYNC, which eventually caused the GC timer to fire in InterSliceGCTimerFired
1690. # [19:16] <ekr> which means that now we are recursively in the GC,
1691. # [19:16] <ekr> So, the re-post was designed to stop that from happening.
1692. # [19:17] <@smaug> DISPATCH_SYNC in middle of GC is definitely no-no
1693. # [19:17] <ekr> Right.
1694. # [19:17] <derf> _This_ bug is where PeerConnectionMedia came from?
1695. # [19:17] <ekr> So this was fixed by re-posting the shutdown event back to the main thread where it wouldn't happen in the GC context
1696. # [19:17] <derf> No wonder I was so surprised when I found it.
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1698. # [19:18] <ekr> but unfortunately someone (perhaps me) got confused and optimized out that re-post
1699. # [19:18] <ekr> in ShutdownMedia
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1701. # [19:19] <evilpie> can somebody verify running http://rng.io/ to the end, you can't click to expand the results view
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1706. # [19:21] <@khuey> yeah you shouldn't be sync dispatching from the main thread pretty much ever
1707. # [19:21] <@khuey> certainly not during gc finalization :-P
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1709. # [19:21] <@smaug> nor during reflow, or during dom mutations or ...
1710. # [19:22] <ekr> Right.
1711. # [19:22] <ekr> So the immediate fix is, as derf suggests, to change that RUN_ON_THREAD to be a Dispatch
1712. # [19:22] <ekr> Which will pull the offending call out of the GC context.
1713. # [19:22] <ekr> I..e, in ShutdownMedia()
1714. # [19:23] <derf> Right. There are two DISPATCH_SYNCs in PeerConnectionMedia which need to be re-worked.
1715. # [19:23] <derf> The one in SelfDestruct is easy.
1716. # [19:23] <ekr> derf: actually, it's not.
1717. # [19:23] <derf> Why not?
1718. # [19:24] <ekr> the reason it's there is that there are asynchronous events bubbling up from the STS
1719. # [19:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/195e706140d1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 841413 - Part 2: Don't call enablePrivilege needlessly in localstorage Private Browsing tests; r=jdm
1720. # [19:24] <ekr> so we need to make sure that they can't get fired anywhere else.
1721. # [19:24] <ekr> so at minimum we need to audit all those events
1722. # [19:24] <derf> I'm not following.
1723. # [19:24] <derf> Where is "anywhere else"?
1724. # [19:24] <ekr> PCMedia is a sigslot listener for events on, e.g., NrIceCtx.
1725. # [19:25] <ekr> and those signals fire on the STS thread
1726. # [19:25] <derf> Okay... and?
1727. # [19:26] <ekr> The synchronous dispatch here is ensuring that we disconnect ourselves from those signals prior to self-destructing.
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1729. # [19:26] <ekr> because otherwise bad stuff happens.
1730. # [19:26] <derf> ekr: Yes, that's why I was saying we had to proxy the Release back to the main thread after ShutdownMediaTransport().
1731. # [19:26] <derf> But that's not hard to do.
1732. # [19:26] <ekr> OK, we can do that.
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1734. # [19:27] <ekr> The other one can, I strongly suspect, just be made NORMAL
1735. # [19:27] <ekr> though I may need to spend a few minutes studying it
1736. # [19:27] <derf> Yeah, I wasn't clear what the implications of reporting that StartGathering failed there.
1737. # [19:27] <derf> But I suspected "not much".
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1740. # [19:28] <ekr> TBH, it will probably please some people.
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1745. # [19:37] <ekr> jesup: I need to go now, but I can work with jib to remove these two SYNCS and fix the ShutdownMedia Dispatch
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1747. # [19:38] <jesup|mac> so, are you sure there are no other uses? IN any case, that would be great.
1748. # [19:38] * jesup|mac is looking at chfind DISPATCH_SYNC in mtransport and webrtc/signaling
1749. # [19:38] <ekr> Well, I'm not like ontologically sure, but grepping for NS_DISPATCH_SYNC in PC doesn't come up with any
1750. # [19:39] <ekr> So, a lot of the ones in mtransport go the other way
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1752. # [19:39] <ekr> Actually, there is only one in mtransport and as dert points out, I don't think it's actually ever called
1753. # [19:40] <jesup|mac> What about MediaPipeline::Init()
1754. # [19:40] <jesup|mac> ?
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1758. # [19:40] <jesup|mac> That one looks worrisome
1759. # [19:41] <ekr> well, there are a pile there.
1760. # [19:41] <ekr> But Init() at least is not called off the main thread
1761. # [19:41] <jesup|mac> yes, mtransport looks clean
1762. # [19:41] <ekr> actually, I take that back, it might be.
1763. # [19:41] <jesup|mac> That's the point, you can't call DISPATCH_SYNC *from* the mainthread
1764. # [19:42] <jesup|mac> unless maybe it's to the mainthread
1765. # [19:42] <ekr> So, file a bug
1766. # [19:43] <jesup|mac> Yup. We need to audit all the DISPATCH_SYNC uses. and maybe add traps
1767. # [19:43] <ekr> Sure. But there are about 40 more serious bugs
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1769. # [19:45] <jesup|mac> Maybe, but these cause hard-to-debug, hard-to-repro crashes and malfunctions like jibs, and probably the null mMedia datachannels bug, etc. These seem to me to be important things to fix to avoid wasting time elsewhere
1770. # [19:45] <jesup|mac> jib wasted a few days tracking this down, and was ready to wallpaper it before I said "wait a second, that should never be happening; let me check with some people"
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1772. # [19:46] <jesup|mac> in any case, let's start with the ones you've identified
1773. # [19:46] <ekr> I have to go, but I don't think this is anywhere near as clear-cut as you suggest
1774. # [19:46] <Ms2ger> Nothing is ever clear-cut
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1779. # [19:55] <JosiahOne> So we don't have mach for TB?
1780. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> Not yet, AIUI
1781. # [19:55] <JosiahOne> Okay. make it is.
1782. # [19:56] <JosiahOne> Oh, but does anyone here have a linux system up and running?
1783. # [19:57] <@smaug> JosiahOne: linux system, yes, but you want TB ?
1784. # [19:57] <JosiahOne> smaug: Not for this. I need someone to try to run a build for me.
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1786. # [19:58] <JosiahOne> I have try builds available at the bottom of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817074. I need someone to try to run the Linux version.
1787. # [19:58] <Callek> gerv: marking spam private, or is this one I see some other reason?
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1789. # [19:58] <gerv> Callek: Spam.
1790. # [19:59] <gerv> SEO spam, hence the particular desire to mark private.
1791. # [19:59] <Callek> kk, not used to the "comment is sec private" for spam, but I understand ;-)
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1793. # [19:59] * Callek isn't arguing against it, just surprised me :-)
1794. # [19:59] <gerv> It's not that common; I just thought that if he was particularly aiming at SEO, I should defeat him.
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1799. # [20:02] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I don't suppose you know how to run tests given the test.ip thing and a tar ball of firefox?
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1801. # [20:02] <NeilAway> tbsaunde++
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1805. # [20:05] <NeilAway> (for scrollback, don't ask)
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1811. # [20:13] <jesup|mac> Filed bug 844493 on one mis-use of NS_DISPATCH_SYNC, and a patch to trap misuses via RUN_ON_THREAD
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1815. # [20:17] <froglegstew> Are they are any files in media that cannot use NSPR other than the lib* directories? Like webrtc?
1816. # [20:18] <derf> webrtc/trunk certainly can't.
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1818. # [20:19] <froglegstew> what about webrtc/signaling?
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1820. # [20:20] <derf> webrtc/signaling/src/sipcc can't.
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1823. # [20:21] <derf> I know we added mozilla locks to callcontrol and softphonewrapper.
1824. # [20:21] <derf> The rest definitely can.
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1827. # [20:22] <derf> The stuff in mtransport/third_party also can't.
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1831. # [20:25] <froglegstew> what about toolkit/crashreporter, and dom/camera (working on a bug, and need to know which files can use nspr)
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1870. # [21:23] <Optimizer> I have an intermittent text failure which is a "leaked until shutdown" type failure. for each such warning in the test, I have a preceding warning called "This is a harness error.". Does that mean/signify anything ?
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1875. # [21:30] <MrDHat> I wanna display an alert box stating some message. What is the best way to do it, keeping in mind the localization does not break.
1876. # [21:30] <MrDHat> something to with navigator.mozL10n.get?
1877. # [21:30] <Archaeopteryx> MrDHat: content or chrome context?
1878. # [21:31] <MrDHat> It is an error message.
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1880. # [21:32] <MrDHat> Archaeopteryx: Did not get you.
1881. # [21:32] <Archaeopteryx> content = launched from web page. chrome = launched from browser internals
1882. # [21:33] <MrDHat> It is the gaia settings app
1883. # [21:33] <MrDHat> [b2g]
1884. # [21:33] <MrDHat> What would you count it as?
1885. # [21:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7aebc1dec8f1 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 844007 - PL_strcmp works only if the string is null-terminated. r=hsivonen
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1888. # [21:36] <Archaeopteryx> navigator.mozL10n.get is the string/text fetching function, i'd expect the default alert dialog to follow the global ltr/rtl settings
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1891. # [21:37] <Archaeopteryx> you can also try to get an answer by asking in #gaia
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1901. # [21:46] <kanha> Hi
1902. # [21:47] <kanha> I want to participate in gsoc this year
1903. # [21:47] <kanha> can somebody guide me thorough it
1904. # [21:47] <chemberger> Who doesn't want to.
1905. # [21:47] <Archaeopteryx> kanha: have you already read the wiki page and the announcement?
1906. # [21:48] <kanha> where could I find ideas page?
1907. # [21:48] <kanha> any url?
1908. # [21:48] <Archaeopteryx> http://blog.gerv.net/2013/02/summer-of-code-2013/ is the place to start, the brainstorming page etc are linked
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1911. # [21:50] <kanha> Is there some project related with automated testing. writing or improving tests/ unit testing in python?
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1913. # [21:52] <Archaeopteryx> kanha: you can also come up with your own suggestions. automated testing and python, sounds you want to talk to whimboo (Henrik Skupin) or AutomatedTester (David, iirc)
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1915. # [21:53] <Archaeopteryx> Thunderbird is also looking for people with improve the automatic testing environment
1916. # [21:53] <kanha> on which Irc channel I can find them?
1917. # [21:54] <Archaeopteryx> see https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Automated_Testing and https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/The_Ateam
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1919. # [21:54] <kanha> thanks :)
1920. # [21:55] <Archaeopteryx> #ateam is the channel you are looking for
1921. # [21:55] <Archaeopteryx> but they are offline at the moment
1922. # [21:56] <froglegstew> can toolkit/crashreporter, and dom/camera use NSPR
1923. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> Yes
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1950. # [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb9e9d8b1d2f - Justin Wood - Bug 844336 - Aurora win32 L10N builds broken by bug 823218. r=khuey
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1954. # [22:37] <froglegstew> can the files in gfx/cairo/cairo/src use nspr
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1957. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> No
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1965. # [22:46] <froglegstew> can gfx/skia/src use NSPR?
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1971. # [22:50] <WeirdAl> philor: bug 812105, grounds for blocking releases?
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1973. # [22:50] <WeirdAl> or for tracking, at least?
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1976. # [22:51] <philor> WeirdAl: you'd have to ask, um, bhearsum on Monday, I don't know enough about releases or signing to know whether or not they take the same path with the same file size limits
1977. # [22:52] <WeirdAl> me neither :(
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1979. # [22:53] <tbsaunde> froglegstew: I'm pretty sure that's external so no
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1982. # [22:55] <WeirdAl> "burns the build" sounds ominous though...
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1988. # [22:59] <philor> it's only ominous if you've already uttered the helpless hopeless phrase "I rely on xulrunner"
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1993. # [23:01] <WeirdAl> I can brew my own, but it still stinks
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1995. # [23:01] <Callek> philor: you mean like www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/ whom rely on XULRunner?
1996. # [23:01] <Callek> :-P
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2004. # [23:09] <WeirdAl> philor - was that central that went over 500MB, aurora, beta, or release?
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2016. # [23:24] <JosiahOne> Do we have any UI people for TB here?
2017. # [23:24] <JosiahOne> Or Firefox/TB
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2019. # [23:26] <@dolske> why?
2020. # [23:26] <JosiahOne> dolske: I need to talk with someone from UI.
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2022. # [23:27] <@dolske> "why" as in "what is your question"? :)
2023. # [23:28] <JosiahOne> dolske: It's not really a question, I just have some things I need an actual UI person to address before I post bugs on them.
2024. # [23:28] <JosiahOne> Enhancement bugs.
2025. # [23:28] <@dolske> ...
2026. # [23:30] <JosiahOne> dolske: Sorry, I would just like to know someone from UI is here. I am not trying to address problems per say, but instead ideas for TB.
2027. # [23:31] <JosiahOne> dolske: Oh wait. Are you from UX?
2028. # [23:31] <WeirdAl> just blurt them out :)
2029. # [23:31] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Was that directed at me? :)
2030. # [23:31] <WeirdAl> yes
2031. # [23:32] <WeirdAl> I've learned over the last decade that the unasked question never gets answers
2032. # [23:32] <JosiahOne> I will. I think I'll head to #ux first though.
2033. # [23:32] <JosiahOne> It's a long list. ;)
2034. # [23:32] <WeirdAl> ah, then you want a newsgroup.
2035. # [23:32] <JosiahOne> A newsgroup?
2036. # [23:33] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: I mean 9 things. It's not terrible.
2037. # [23:33] <JosiahOne> I just want some feedback on them.
2038. # [23:33] <@dbaron> So far you've typed 13 lines on IRC to ask about listing 9 items.
2039. # [23:34] <JosiahOne> dbaron: Very true. I think I'll just be quiet and go ask now on #ux.
2040. # [23:34] * WeirdAl sighs
2041. # [23:34] <@dbaron> The rule about IRC is generally: don't ask to ask, just ask. (Then somebody might redirect you.)
2042. # [23:35] <JosiahOne> dbaron: Okay, then I will. Number 1:
2043. # [23:35] <JosiahOne> Text should be lighter by default (blue color)
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2045. # [23:35] <JosiahOne> Meaning the blue color is currently too dark on TB.
2046. # [23:35] <JosiahOne> Does it make sense to alter it?
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2048. # [23:36] <JosiahOne> Right now it doesn't seem consistent with the lighter style of OS X and Windows 8.
2049. # [23:37] <JosiahOne> . . .
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2051. # [23:39] <WeirdAl> JosiahOne: that sounds like a themes question
2052. # [23:40] <WeirdAl> which leads me to ask the obvious question: have you looked into other existing themes for Thunderbird?
2053. # [23:40] <@dolske> text like http://cl.ly/image/3a0M0Q0q2N17 ?
2054. # [23:40] <JosiahOne> dolske: Right, it's too dark.
2055. # [23:40] <WeirdAl> I realize it may not be easy to install themes on TB
2056. # [23:40] <@dolske> on some systems we pull that from the OS, I don't know where it comes from in this case.
2057. # [23:41] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Well, the point is without using themes.
2058. # [23:41] <@dolske> it's a fair request, although the lighter it gets you start getting into readability issues.
2059. # [23:41] <WeirdAl> ok, you're really asking for a change to the built-in "default" theme
2060. # [23:41] <JosiahOne> dolske: It might be the standard on OS X. But if you look at say the Mail app on OS X, link color is lighter.
2061. # [23:41] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Yes, that is what I mean.
2062. # [23:42] <evilpie> does firefoxos really not support <input type=file> ?
2063. # [23:43] <@dolske> looks roughtly the same as in Firefox and Safari, though.
2064. # [23:44] <JosiahOne> dolske: I suppose. But when you look at the other blue colors on TB, link color looks… Outdated I guess.
2065. # [23:44] <JosiahOne> dolske: Something more like the color on: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Thunderbird_build is prefered.
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2067. # [23:46] <@dolske> I'd suggest filing a bug. Next?
2068. # [23:46] <JosiahOne> dolske: Right, okay.
2069. # [23:46] <JosiahOne> Number 2:
2070. # [23:46] <JosiahOne> There should be a unified folder inside the View -> All Folders default view.
2071. # [23:46] <JosiahOne> Right now the default view shows all accounts, but no unified one.
2072. # [23:47] <JosiahOne> Since it is named "all", we should probably have a combined inbox under say Local Folders.
2073. # [23:47] <JosiahOne> Instead of Users having to manually switch to unified.
2074. # [23:47] * WeirdAl sees some potential conflicts with that
2075. # [23:47] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Please elaborate.
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2077. # [23:48] <WeirdAl> well, for one, what might be acceptable in one e-mail account would be spam in others; how would you tell which account a message came from?
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2079. # [23:48] <WeirdAl> for another, would you know which account you'd be replying from?
2080. # [23:49] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Well, what we would do is simply have a combined inbox. Only email from each account's would be sent there. Both Gmail and Apple's mail does this.
2081. # [23:49] <WeirdAl> for a third, you'll need to clarify if you're merging all mail and all newsgroup postings into one
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2083. # [23:49] <WeirdAl> I'm just thinking aloud here
2084. # [23:49] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Again, this is not really like the "Unified mode", just a combined inbox. Only inbox mail.
2085. # [23:50] <JosiahOne> For more detail users will have to navigate to the individual accounts.
2086. # [23:50] <WeirdAl> for a fourth, what about filtering rules applied to an account to move things from inbox to another folder :)
2087. # [23:50] * @dolske doesn't know mail code, but assumes that's probably complicated.
2088. # [23:50] <wg9s> but I certainly do not want my personal eamil and my work email combined in a manner that makes it easy to confuse them.
2089. # [23:50] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Again, my previous comment.
2090. # [23:51] <JosiahOne> wg9s: Right, well you would still have a choice, but we would mark where the mail came from.
2091. # [23:51] <WeirdAl> potential conflicts, not saying you can't do it
2092. # [23:51] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Right, these are all concept ideas.
2093. # [23:51] <WeirdAl> JosiahOne: how's your JS/XUL skill set?
2094. # [23:51] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Hmm, not amazing.
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2096. # [23:52] <WeirdAl> darn, I was hoping you would be able to put together some prototype extensions to demo this
2097. # [23:52] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: I know.
2098. # [23:52] <JosiahOne> Me too.
2099. # [23:52] <JosiahOne> I just started web languages a few months ago.
2100. # [23:52] <@dolske> If these are all general "concept" / feature requests, you're probably better off posting the the TB email list or filing bugs. That kind of stuff doesn't lend itselfs well to IRC discussion (and #developers isn't really the right place to get conclusive answers on it)
2101. # [23:52] <JosiahOne> I mostly do app design/programming.
2102. # [23:52] <WeirdAl> I should also warn you that the tree code in Mozilla is... complicated
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2104. # [23:53] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Oh I know that. I have contributed to Firefox source. I was looking at Thunderbird's right before this.
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2106. # [23:54] <JosiahOne> dolske: True, is #ux better or should I just do the mailing lists.
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2111. # [23:54] <WeirdAl> I think the mailing lists would suit you better; it'll take time for people to properly analyze these ideas and respond
2112. # [23:54] <@dolske> I'd suggest mailing lists.
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2115. # [23:55] <WeirdAl> also, you might do a quick search through Bugzilla to see if there are existing bugs filed for some of these ideas...
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2117. # [23:55] <JosiahOne> dolske: Alright, I'll do that. I am trying to start a massive UI overhaul of TB. It really hasn't changed much in years.
2118. # [23:55] <JosiahOne> I find it quite unintuitive right now.
2119. # [23:55] <WeirdAl> an idea might've been considered and rejected, or proposed with a patch that hasn't gotten reviews in months...
2120. # [23:56] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Also true. I looked through a few, didn't see anything, but I didn't search terribly hard.
2121. # [23:56] <JosiahOne> BTW, here is a concept I sketched out. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kag6t89h41ru6ya/2013-02-23%2014.48.24.jpg
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2123. # [23:57] * WeirdAl wonders if the Pencil extension's still being maintained
2124. # [23:57] <JosiahOne> That really is the most user-friendly design. But it is pretty close to Apple's.
2125. # [23:57] <WeirdAl> Pencil was a prototype several years ago for sketching out UI mocks; it's a browser extension
2126. # [23:57] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Cool.
2127. # [23:58] <JosiahOne> The idea might be okay if done right, so it doesn't steel Apple's entirely. Plus it would take a TON of work.
2128. # [23:58] <WeirdAl> http://code.google.com/p/evoluspencil/
2129. # [23:59] <Standard8> JosiahOne: you want to talk to bwinton in #maildev, he might have finished for the day by now. And that sketch looks a bit like Thunderbird's vertical view with conversations
2130. # [23:59] <WeirdAl> hm, looks ike it hasn't :(
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2132. # [23:59] <@dolske> JosiahOne: you should be aware that TB doesn't have many people working on it, so there are tough tradeoffs on they're actually able to focus on.
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