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1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 05 00:00:00 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <@dbaron> jwir3, probably not, after looking at the image
4. # [00:00] <Waldo> NeilAway: are you asking about changing Abs to take signed, return unsigned? that's the potential subject of bug 847480
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7. # [00:00] * njn is enjoying |hg qpush --move|
8. # [00:00] <jwir3> dbaron: Yeah, I don't think it is. I have seen this in the past. I think it might be breaking out of the loop too early.
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12. # [00:01] <Waldo> NeilAway: I think it's a good idea, but I'm getting a gut-check first
13. # [00:01] <NeilAway> Waldo: :-)
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15. # [00:02] <@dbaron> jwir3, oh, and we're running it at 800x1000 anyway
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19. # [00:03] <Waldo> NeilAway: the stackoverflow link in that bug is instructive as to why abs doesn't work that way now
20. # [00:03] <sfink> njn: for cases where qpush --move doesn't cut it, I use my fugly |hg qedit| alias: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2194829
21. # [00:03] <Waldo> if you didn't read the bug and follow that link
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24. # [00:03] <NeilAway> Waldo: indeed thanks
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27. # [00:03] <njn> sfink: my eyes! my eyes!
28. # [00:03] <Waldo> njn: qpush --move is essential; how have you been using such an old hg for so long?
29. # [00:03] <njn> sfink: I just use |vim .hg/patches/series|
30. # [00:04] <njn> Waldo: I only just learnt about it recently
31. # [00:04] <Waldo> you poor soul
32. # [00:04] <Waldo> :-)
33. # [00:04] <sfink> njn: I kept accidentally moving around applied patches when I did that
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35. # [00:04] <sfink> that makes mq a little testy
36. # [00:04] * NeilAway wanted to reorder his series without pushing, so qpush --move didn't help :s
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38. # [00:05] <njn> sfink: heh
39. # [00:05] <njn> sfink: whereas that alias is clearly much safer!
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41. # [00:05] <sfink> hm, that $(hg root)/.hg/patches should really be $(hg root --mq)
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47. # [00:07] <sfink> oh... except that pastebin has the substitutions already done
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49. # [00:08] <sfink> yeah, that's not gonna work
50. # [00:08] <sfink> NeilAway: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2194842 is good for that
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74. # [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf88a316cf18 - Trevor Saunders - bug 407956 - make nsITreeView not take a nsISupportsArray* r=neil, bz sr=neil
75. # [00:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61568b93a601 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 846409 - Add |mach mach-debug-commands|; r=jhammel
76. # [00:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55477ae32280 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
77. # [00:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54505c81f8e0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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79. # [00:22] <gwagner> mccr8: ping
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81. # [00:22] <mccr8> gwagner: pong
82. # [00:22] <gwagner> mccr8: hey! I have something like this on the B2G phone: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2194888
83. # [00:23] <gwagner> mccr8: and I need more GCs :) what does "removed" mean?
84. # [00:23] <mccr8> gwagner: removed means that objects were removed from the purple buffer, before a CC, that were determined to be live.
85. # [00:24] <gwagner> mccr8: these are probably touch events. once we hit a GC we have a very long pause time caused by sweeping
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87. # [00:24] <jesup> lsblakk: ping - My changeset for bug 843971 has an idl file, and I need ba= in the comment. I've verified the uuid is revved in the change. Do I need someone to bless it, or do I just add ba=<what>?
88. # [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f18d05d1ba1 - Josh Matthews - Bug 844671 - Only sync remote tabs to non-private windows. r=rnewman
89. # [00:25] <gwagner> mccr8: some more log: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2194901
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92. # [00:25] <mccr8> gwagner: well, it seems bad that the CC is running so much without finding anything, but I don't see how that would cause the GC to not run enough.
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94. # [00:26] <gwagner> mccr8: we don't modify the malloc trigger when we allocate touch events
95. # [00:26] <gwagner> mccr8: bug 844313
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97. # [00:27] <gwagner> mccr8: and I don't think we allocate JS objects
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102. # [00:27] <gwagner> mccr8: my idea was to count touch events towards the malloc trigger but smaug wants to change the CC heuristics
103. # [00:28] <mccr8> gwagner: okay, sounds reasonable
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107. # [00:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ba0c687f0b4 - Terrence Cole - Bug 841558 - Don't exactly mark tagged NULL pointers; r=sfink
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110. # [00:30] <gwagner> mccr8: I am assuming we remove touch events from the purple buffer. shouldn't they be super short lived?
111. # [00:30] <mccr8> gwagner: we remove things that we determine can't be part of a garbage cycle. like, if it has no children, or it is owned by a live document.
112. # [00:31] <gwagner> mccr8: oh I see. so they can still be garbage
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115. # [00:31] <mccr8> gwagner: yeah.
116. # [00:32] <gwagner> mccr8: do you think we should add them up and trigger a GC based on a certain threshold?
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118. # [00:33] <mccr8> gwagner: I don't really know anything about how they are owned.
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120. # [00:34] <gwagner> mccr8: smaug knows this?
121. # [00:34] <jesup> Does anyone know the rules for "ba=" on checkins? wiki page?
122. # [00:34] <mccr8> gwagner: yeah, hopefully. :) he's probably a better person to ask about all of this.
123. # [00:34] <@gavin> jesup: what does the hook say?
124. # [00:34] <gwagner> mccr8: alright will ask him tomorrow. thx!
125. # [00:34] <@gavin> is that for changes to idls? I forget
126. # [00:34] <mccr8> gwagner: np
127. # [00:35] <jesup> *** IDL file dom/media/nsIMediaManager.idl altered in this changeset***
128. # [00:35] <jesup> Changes to IDL files in this repo require you to provide binary change approval in your top comment in the form of ba=... (or, more accurately, ba\S*=...)
129. # [00:35] <jesup> This is to ensure that UUID changes (or method changes missing corresponding UUID change) are caught early, before release.
130. # [00:35] <jesup> I verified the UUID was bumped; nothing inherits it
131. # [00:35] <mccr8> jesup: I think the idea is to make sure that your approval? request mentioned that you are changing an IDL
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133. # [00:36] <mccr8> err changing a UUID or whatever.
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136. # [00:37] <jimb> gps: My splines are especially well-reticulated today.
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140. # [00:39] <gps> jimb: congratulations. you are #2 to say something (jcranmer was 1st)
141. # [00:40] <jimb> gps: My first reaction: "That sounds hard in the Bourne shell. Maybe he's doing it in m4."
142. # [00:40] <jesup> lsblakk: akeybl: bajaj: ping
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144. # [00:40] <akeybl> hi jesup
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146. # [00:41] <jesup> Hi alex - the patches for bug 843971 are ready to land, but apparently need ba= . The IDL file has the uuid updated, and nothing inherits it (or depends on it)
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149. # [00:43] <jesup> what's the correct procedure?
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157. # [00:47] <sfink> bholley: bachelor frog?
158. # [00:47] <bholley> sfink: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/foul-bachelor-frog
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160. # [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d5602b5e9ba - Jim Blandy - Bug 839313: Add regression test for JS shell 'it.customNative' fix. r=waldo
161. # [00:48] <sfink> ah, thanks. I have now been educated.
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167. # [00:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d501d97c05a6 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 847002 - Add a crash if layer manager is null so we don't run off into garbage code. r=mattwoodrow
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170. # [00:51] <jgilbert_> akeybl: ping
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172. # [00:52] <reuben> gps: fwiw, https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/frontend/reader.py uses logging and prints two timestamps when run under mach
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174. # [00:53] <akeybl> jesup: looking
175. # [00:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8668e9339497 - Trevor Saunders - bug 846487 - remove remaining usage of some nsIDOMFooElement r=Ms2Ger
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178. # [00:54] <akeybl> hi jgilbert_
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185. # [00:56] <gps> reuben: I'm aware of that
186. # [00:56] <akeybl> jesup: added the necessary people
187. # [00:56] <gps> there is a bug on file
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190. # [00:56] <jesup> akeybl: thanks
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195. # [00:58] <@gavin> ée
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208. # [01:03] <reuben> jdm: <3
209. # [01:03] <reuben> thanks! :D
210. # [01:03] <jdm> use your powers only for good
211. # [01:03] <jdm> never for evil
212. # [01:04] <khuey> jdm: I hope you're vouching for him because gwagner technically isn't a peer ;-)
213. # [01:04] <jdm> khuey: oh snap
214. # [01:04] <jdm> well I would vouch anyways
215. # [01:04] <jdm> so yeah, crisis averted
216. # [01:05] <jdm> I'm surprised gwagner doesn't own some b2g thing
217. # [01:05] <jgilbert_> anyone else hitting build errors regarding redeclaration of int8_t on windows?
218. # [01:05] <reuben> he isn't? :O
219. # [01:05] <gwagner> psssst
220. # [01:05] <firebot> Check-in:
221. # [01:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f922160e61a6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 799142 - Make sure that the allocator for nsTimerEvent objects stays around long enough to deallocate all outstanding objects of that type; r=bsmedberg
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224. # [01:06] <jduell> bent: ping
225. # [01:06] <khuey> jdm: none of the b2g stuff has modules :-P
226. # [01:06] <khuey> jdm: well, very little does
227. # [01:06] <jdm> khuey: well, I've seen notices about stuff like wifi
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229. # [01:07] <khuey> jdm: my governance folder has nothing about wifi
230. # [01:07] <bent> jduell, hi!
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232. # [01:08] <jdm> khuey: mozilla.dev.b2g, "Wifi ownership" from Jan 30
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234. # [01:08] <khuey> jdm: someone should post that to governance
235. # [01:08] <bent> khueybot missed one!
236. # [01:08] <khuey> and edit the wiki
237. # [01:09] <khuey> bent: "governance"
238. # [01:09] * khuey isn't subscribed to dev.b2g thankfully
239. # [01:09] <jduell> bent: dumb question: I'm trying to add a new ipdl.h file, and I keep getting make errors ("no rule to make target foo.ipdlh"). I looked at your patch that added InputStreamParams.ipdlh, and all it did was add the filename to ipdl.mk in its diretory, whcih i've done. Ideas?
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244. # [01:11] <bent> jduell, hm... is the directory you're using in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/ipdl/Makefile.in#24 ?
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246. # [01:12] <reuben> so out of curiosity I ran this on the tree: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2195014 roc has quite a lead :)
247. # [01:12] <jduell> bent: yup. Already an existing ipdl.mk file there
248. # [01:12] <bent> hm
249. # [01:13] <bent> jduell, case-sensitive match on the filename?
250. # [01:13] <@dolske> bholley++ for bachelor-frog
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252. # [01:13] <bholley> dolske: :-)
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258. # [01:14] <NeilAway> gavin: do you know what the status of the pdfjs changes for 738952 is?
259. # [01:14] <jduell> bent: nope, I cut and paste these things to avoid such troubles.
260. # [01:14] <bdahl> NeilAway: i'm about to attach patches for the pdf.js side of things
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262. # [01:15] <bent> jduell, you mean "yes, they match" right?
263. # [01:15] <jduell> bent: correct :)
264. # [01:15] <bent> jduell, maybe pastebin your patch?
265. # [01:15] <tbsaunde> reuben: what exactly is that measuring?
266. # [01:15] <NeilAway> bdahl: ok, it's the end of my day here so you'll want to handle the aurora side of things as necessary
267. # [01:15] <Jesse_> ctalbert: re https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/YLkc8AZV8LA how much of that change is due to new configurations on TBPL? (i'm not sure when linux pgo, mac 10.8, and the various android/b2g configurations were added)
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269. # [01:16] <jduell> bent: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2195017
270. # [01:16] <reuben> tbsaunde: it's not very accurate, it just tries to parse the reviewers out of commit messages as best as it can. I use it to get an idea of who I should ask for review
271. # [01:16] <NeilAway> bsmedberg-away: fortunately that case is easily tweaked with a U, but doing it with a uint64 is annoying because you have to static cast :s
272. # [01:17] <mbrubeck> Jesse: I don't think there was a major change in which jobs, in the period in question
273. # [01:17] <jduell> bent: heh, now I see it
274. # [01:17] <mbrubeck> though I'm not as in touch with TBPL as I used to me
275. # [01:17] <jduell> I did spell the name wrong, ipdh
276. # [01:17] <jduell> bent: resume your normal programming :)
277. # [01:18] <jimb> Okay, so I can't use jsval in nsXULAppAPI.h. Isn't there any more civilized header that js/xpconnect/shell/xpcshell.cpp and toolkit/xre share in which I can use real types?
278. # [01:18] <bent> jduell, excellent!
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280. # [01:18] <jimb> (Now I understand why XRE_SendTestShellCommand passes a jsval by reference as a 'void *'
281. # [01:18] <jimb> )
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284. # [01:19] <Mook_as> jimb: out of curiosity, what are you trying to do with it? (mostly as a nsXULAppAPI consumer...)
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287. # [01:20] <jimb> Mook_as: I'm adding a function to toolkit/xre/nsEmbedFunctions.cpp to be used by xpcshell that wants to take a callback function as an argument.
288. # [01:21] <jimb> Mook_as: Oh, you know, I could make it take a JSFunction and then forward-declare that. But properly speaking it should be a handle...
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290. # [01:22] <\n> dougt: If I were to implement a fake geolocation provider in an add-on, any idea why a call to navigator.geolocation.watchPosition would work correctly, and also time out?
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300. # [01:31] <Waldo> jgilbert_: MSVC9 gets no love :-) someone commented in the regressing bug to note the issue, dunno if it's been fixt or not yet
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303. # [01:33] <jgilbert_> Waldo: not on central, at least
304. # [01:33] * jgilbert_ should just upgrade to msvc10
305. # [01:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b10d28390d5 - Mark Hammond - Bug 814986 - specify a max-height of 0px for the chatbar. r=felipe
306. # [01:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5079012c91f2 - Mark Hammond - Bug 840872 - log an error if we fail to create a chat window. r=felipe
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308. # [01:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcb7bae3f9b0 - Mark Hammond - Bug 847094 - test-only fix for intermittent browser_social_chatwindowfocus test error. r=me.
309. # [01:33] <Waldo> jgilbert_: given how we seem to like breaking msvc9 building, and our tinderboxen don't build with it, arguably we should drop msvc9 support
310. # [01:34] <Waldo> jgilbert_: I nominate you to make the argument!
311. # [01:34] <Waldo> :-P
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317. # [01:36] <jdm> \n: what do you mean by "work correctly"?
318. # [01:37] <markh> wow - poor try is backed up - >2000 pending jobs!
319. # [01:37] <jdm> \n: note that we support multiple simultaneous providers
320. # [01:37] <khuey> markh: that's relatively low
321. # [01:37] <markh> really! Wow...
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323. # [01:37] <\n> jdm: I'm seeing updates then after I call clearWatch, I get a timeout error
324. # [01:38] <jdm> hmm
325. # [01:38] <jdm> that's less good
326. # [01:39] <Waldo> jgilbert_: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722299 was the regressor
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328. # [01:40] <jgilbert_> Waldo: thanks
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335. # [01:41] <Waldo> possibly we should just add -DHB_DONT_DEFINE_STDINT=1 to our command lines
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337. # [01:41] <Waldo> I'd do that and kill it for good if it were me, but meh
338. # [01:42] <\n> jdm: what to do? There's so much blood!
339. # [01:43] <jdm> file a bug, I guess
340. # [01:43] <jdm> I'm super confused why you would see anything after clearTimeout
341. # [01:43] <jdm> er, clearWatch
342. # [01:43] <jdm> we protect against that
343. # [01:43] <\n> yeah
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346. # [01:44] <\n> ok I'll probably end up committing my code and linking to it with STR in a bug
347. # [01:44] <\n> jdm: thanks
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350. # [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a302dd6d6ce - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 845482 - Init scissor box values on offscreen context init - r=bjacob
351. # [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd21739c5bce - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 845368 - Generic vertex attribs should have a size of 4 - r=bjacob
352. # [01:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40b1d8181e56 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 845636 - WebGL uniform1i should generate INVALID_VALUE for invalid texture units - r=bjacob
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362. # [01:53] * Waldo idly wonders how many PDF "protection" features pdf.js is going to flush out over time, by dint of not necessarily implementing them
363. # [01:54] <Waldo> or not implementing them fully correctly
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365. # [01:54] <@dolske> Waldo: "but our customers!"
366. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5a453f499b2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 847210 - Remove nsNodeInfo::sNodeInfoPool and use vanilla allocation for nsNodeInfo objects. r=smaug.
367. # [01:55] <Waldo> dolske: "but our customers!"
368. # [01:55] <Waldo> :-)
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370. # [01:57] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I almost want there to be an addon that just turns off all pdf protection almost enough to write it
371. # [01:57] <Waldo> could be we'll just implement that in pdf.js, who knows
372. # [01:57] <Waldo> at least printing protection is semi-wontfixy these days
373. # [01:58] <Waldo> latest case I saw was some sort of PDF layer thing, not protection quite as such
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381. # [02:01] <tbsaunde> Waldo: heh, I didn't realize that and didn't know a layery thing existed
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384. # [02:02] <Waldo> yeah, I know ~nil about the PDF spec or features of it
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448. # [02:50] <avih> bz_away: re: "why checks==1 is reasonable while we also allow 2ms?" would something like this be ok?: "the 2ms delta is the lower spec, while we actually support the higher spec (microseconds) when the timer is not low-res. the fastest setTimeout return that i've seen is 500 micro seconds, and in that duration, a micro-seconds resolution counter should change"?
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450. # [02:50] <bz_away> avih: yes
451. # [02:51] <avih> bz_away: thx
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464. # [03:01] <@roc> tbsaunde: do you know of any documentation for non-nsISupports cycle collection participation?
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467. # [03:01] <Callek> RyanVM: ping -- do you know much about specifically what TBPL *needs*
468. # [03:02] <RyanVM> Callek: in what sense?
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470. # [03:02] <Callek> RyanVM: specifically besides the builds-4hr etc json blobs, does TBPL need buildAPI for any reason?
471. # [03:03] <Callek> RyanVM: including for example loads like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=9f18d05d1ba1
472. # [03:03] <Callek> RyanVM: I'm ignoring self-serve buildapi tie-ins for this purpose, fwiw
473. # [03:03] <RyanVM> I think so, but I'm not horribly familiar with the internals of tbpl. You're better off asking Ed
474. # [03:04] <Callek> ahh crap yea
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480. # [03:08] <Callek> RyanVM: sooo yea :( it at least uses it in one spot http://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/file/62faa43eb3c7/js/BuildAPI.js#l8 not sure where thats used [yet] though
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489. # [03:16] <Callek> oooo... if I'm skimming code correctly its *only* used to find similar builds, for a buildID find, for rebuilds...
490. # [03:16] <tbsaunde> roc: uhm not really
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494. # [03:17] <tbsaunde> roc: but it should be pretty much the same as nsISupports cc except you use the DECL macros with NATIVE in the name, and need to have the UNROOT / ROOT macros
495. # [03:17] <@roc> boy I wish we had more documentation for people writing CC participants
496. # [03:18] <tbsaunde> roc: yeah, if we have docs somewhere I could probably add some stuff
497. # [03:19] <tbsaunde> peterv was working on a patch at one point that would get rid of the ROOT / UNROOT macros
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501. # [03:22] <demianovics> i want to use Mozilla Addon SDK. use nsIWindowMediator.openWindow to open a new window. Listen to "load" or "DOMContentLoaded", and then use nsIDOMWindowUtils to simulate mouse-events via .setNativeMouseEvent() ... do you see any problems in this?
502. # [03:23] <demianovics> 'cause i already struggle at listening to "load" events
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509. # [03:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/871fea464883 - William Chen - Bug 783129 - Implementation of document.register without shadow DOM support. r=mrbkap
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537. # [03:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5582f09cad9c - Richard Newman - Bug 840128 - Android client for Bagheera. r=nalexander
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539. # [03:40] <Callek> OMG! my personal web server runs py2.5
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542. # [03:41] <Callek> and sadly I don't pay for shell access
543. # [03:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf3772a6f4e9 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 836943: Part 0 - Make sure IndexedDB attempts to initialize the storage service on the main thread. r=bent
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550. # [03:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc3bed297ae8 - Mike de Boer - Bug 833939 - Initialize gLogConsoleErrors to FALSE, also in debug builds. r=bsmedberg
551. # [03:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ba8ed8f13de - Ms2ger - Bug 839913 - Fix HTMLAreaElement's stringifier. r=bz
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559. # [03:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d7391eb3571 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 3ba8ed8f13de (bug 839913) for bustage.
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568. # [04:00] <bz> God
569. # [04:00] <bz> devmo is so slow.... :(
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571. # [04:02] <Callek> bz: only thing faster is the amount of spam on wikimo
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574. # [04:03] <Callek> or maybe I meant only thing slower is the end to end time of your try pushes
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583. # [04:09] <Luke_1> Hello, I have a question on the mozregression tool - it narrowed down the revision that the problem started in, but the summary is "Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound"
584. # [04:10] <Callek> Luke_1: what is the changeset?
585. # [04:10] <Luke_1> 108887:a16dfb364f8c
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587. # [04:10] <Luke_1> see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835064
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589. # [04:12] <Callek> Luke_1: I don't know how that tool works, but I would check if da5df2c1ae16 or c9a8f55d8541 have the issue, such that was it a bad-merge cset (as in, conflicts/etc. that got resolved) or was the problem further up the chain of the pre-merge in a certain direction
590. # [04:12] <bz> Luke_1: sounds like you want to tell it to bisect on inbound....
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592. # [04:12] <Callek> (I got those csets from the hg parents of your rev at http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a16dfb364f8c )
593. # [04:13] <bz> Callek: all that happens is that the relevant bug was introduced in that merge, probably...
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595. # [04:13] <Callek> bz: well yea, but if its present in one of those two parents, and not the other, then he knows it wasn't the merge cset, and which parent to trace backwards from
596. # [04:14] <Callek> but if its not present in BOTH csets, then it can be the merge itself was bad
597. # [04:14] * Callek does suspect that mozregression isn't smart enough to bisect around a merge point like that though
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599. # [04:16] <Jesse> as long as your start rev is a common ancestor of the merge's parents, hg bisect will at least form a theory about the state of each of the merge's parents
600. # [04:18] <Matti> i would do a "hg bisect bad 108886:da5df2c1ae16" "hg bisect good 108831:9f856ef0f078"
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602. # [04:19] <Luke_1> Thanks Matti, I will try that.
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605. # [04:24] <Luke_1> It says that use is deprecated, inconsistent state (good and bad).
606. # [04:25] <Matti> the deprecated is only about the commandline "good" vs "-g"
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609. # [04:26] <Matti> do a hg bisect reset first
610. # [04:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/570619c0ef29 - Yoshi Huang - Bug 847770 : B2G RIL: typos in ICCRecordHelper.readANR and readEmail. r=hsinyi
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618. # [04:34] <Jesse> mozilla-central/widget/cocoa/nsMacDockSupport.mm:20:20: error: use of undeclared identifier 'do_CreateInstance'
619. # [04:34] <Jesse> mProgressTimer = do_CreateInstance(NS_TIMER_CONTRACTID);
620. # [04:34] <Jesse> ^
621. # [04:34] <Jesse> why am i on fire :(
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625. # [04:35] <jesup> lsblakk: ping
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627. # [04:36] <Jesse> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548763 added this line
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631. # [04:38] <Jesse> jdm halp
632. # [04:38] <jdm> hmm?
633. # [04:39] <Jesse> a patch you merged set me on fire. do you happen to know how to fix it?
634. # [04:39] <jdm> Jesse: probably include a header; one moment
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638. # [04:40] <jdm> Jesse: nsComponentManagerUtils.h
639. # [04:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ccaf14cac77 - Raymond Lee - Bug 847527 - Fix typo in metro/base/tests/Makefile.in. r=mbrubeck
640. # [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc8c25729d7a - Sunny - Bug 817381 - Add sThreadCount and sTelemetryMaxThreadCount to count the number of maximum concurrent threads in a download session and implemented Telemetry for the same. r=biesi
641. # [04:41] <RyanVM> njn: your inbound push is looking really orange
642. # [04:41] <Jesse> i wonder why that header is needed for me but not for tinderbox
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645. # [04:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3e79c49d75a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 74eaeeec2b9d (bug 847236) for crashes on a CLOSED TREE.
646. # [04:47] <@roc> oh, here's a brilliant idea
647. # [04:47] <@roc> instead of warning Web developers with messages in the Web Console, let's have *audible* warning!
648. # [04:47] <khuey> haha
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650. # [04:48] <tbsaunde> roc: if you turn that on by default stab stab stab
651. # [04:48] <Luke_1> a noise high pitched so only developers will hear it?
652. # [04:48] <Jesse> and an infobar, and a modal dialog, and also screw up the page in a way that only web developers will notice, such as swapping helvetica for arial
653. # [04:49] <@roc> better still, automatically place a WebRTC call to a tech evangelist
654. # [04:49] <Luke_1> Thanks. What exactly is the "parent" of a revision btw?
655. # [04:49] <@roc> "Bobby Holley on line 1 ... says he wants to talk about your use of window.Components"
656. # [04:51] <jdm> "have you thought about accepting web standards into your life?"
657. # [04:52] <@roc> I wish there was a way to figure out when someone loading a page in Firefox is actually the author of that page
658. # [04:52] <@roc> or their boss
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660. # [04:53] <Jesse> Luke_1: the one it's based on (or two, in the case of a merge changeset)
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664. # [04:54] <Jesse> Luke_1: so if B's parent is A, "the difference between A and B" is the same as "the changes made by B"
665. # [04:54] <Jesse> Luke_1: depending on whether you like to think in terms of revisions or changes
666. # [04:54] <Jesse> *versions or changes
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699. # [05:05] <@gavin> (I think something's wrong with irccloud)
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701. # [05:06] <bz> gavin: only one thing? ;)
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707. # [05:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4062c4b4fba - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 845960 - Fix a crash resulted from a missing nullcheck for the optional failure callback of decodeAudioData; r=bzbarsky
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711. # [05:15] <Mook> bholley++ for posting about window.Components before things land :D
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716. # [05:16] <markh> I'm on OSX, and it seems an incremental build of, eg, "browser/base/content" doesn't cause the obj/dist/Nightly.app folder to pick up the changes. Is there some other make target I need to run?
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718. # [05:17] <dzbarsky> markh: toolkit/library
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720. # [05:18] <markh> ahh, thanks!
721. # [05:18] <Jesse> jdm: adding that #include fixed the build for me. should i push to inbound?
722. # [05:18] <jdm> Jesse: sure.
723. # [05:19] <jdm> markh: depends what changes you're making.
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726. # [05:19] <markh> jdm: just, eg, .js files. Just building that dir on Windows "does the right thing" but doesn't seem to on osx
727. # [05:20] * markh is a complete newbie on osx
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729. # [05:20] <jdm> markh: js files in which directory?
730. # [05:20] <jdm> that's the bit that matters.
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732. # [05:21] <markh> browser/base/content or browser/modules
733. # [05:21] <jdm> hmm
734. # [05:21] <jdm> I would build browser/
735. # [05:21] <Jesse> pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/
736. # [05:21] <Jesse> remote: Could not connect to the LDAP server at ldap://ldapsync1.db.scl3.mozilla.com
737. # [05:21] <Jesse> abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
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741. # [05:22] <markh> thanks - /browser works
742. # [05:22] <Callek> Jesse: just now?
743. # [05:23] <Jesse> yes, still happening
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747. # [05:24] <@gavin> markh: on mac, you need browser/app to repackage the .app bundle for chrome changes
748. # [05:24] <markh> ahh, thanks!
749. # [05:24] <@gavin> so browser/base browser/app is the minimal set
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752. # [05:25] <markh> now all I need to do is get out of the habit of using "ctrl+" in the VM!
753. # [05:25] <Callek> Jesse: I just pinged our on-call in #it, also pinged you there (but mentioning here incase your client doesn't easily alert you of that)
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759. # [05:26] <jesup> Ugh. Transferring symbols... ./dist/b2g-20.0.en-US.android-arm.crashreporter-symbols-full.zip
760. # [05:26] <jesup> Warning: Identity file /home/mock_mozilla/.ssh/ffxbld_dsa not accessible: No such file or directory.
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765. # [05:27] <seth> hmm. getting a linking error on win32 and i don't have a win32 box, nor do i really understand our build system. the problem is usage of gfxASurface methods in nsWindowsShellService.cpp; the linker doesn't find them. can anyone suggest how to fix this?
766. # [05:27] <jesup> Do Try pushes for Beta not work? (on B2G)?
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768. # [05:27] <Callek> jesup: thats Bug 847065
769. # [05:28] <jesup> seth: Are the methods you're trying to use part of gkmedia.dll?
770. # [05:28] <@roc> seth: is this while you're linking xul.dll?
771. # [05:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a7e1ca619c2 - Jesse Ruderman - Bug 548763 followup - add missing include
772. # [05:28] <seth> jesup: i have no idea. don't even know where to go to find out
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774. # [05:28] <seth> roc: browsercomps.dll, actually
775. # [05:28] <@roc> ok
776. # [05:29] <seth> log here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20323377&tree=Try
777. # [05:29] <@roc> I don't even know what that is :-)
778. # [05:29] <seth> nor do I =)
779. # [05:29] <philor> though nobody has any idea whether b2g works at all on whatever's on beta now, since we aren't building or testing it there, and didn't while it was on aurora
780. # [05:29] <jesup> Also fun: INFO - Running command: ['tar', 'xf', 'download-panda.tar.bz2'] in /builds/slave/b2g_try_p_dep-0000000000000000/build
781. # [05:29] <jesup> INFO - Copy/paste: tar xf download-panda.tar.bz2
782. # [05:29] <jesup> philor: then I'll ignore the issues in my Try
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785. # [05:31] <@roc> seth: did you add a method in a header file that calls GetAsReadable?
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787. # [05:31] <@roc> er, gfxASurface::GetAsReadableARGB32ImageSurface?
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789. # [05:31] <@roc> or did you just add gfxASurface::GetAsReadableARGB32ImageSurface?
790. # [05:31] <seth> i just added it, yeah. it's called from a .cpp, though
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792. # [05:31] <@roc> is it defined in the header or in a .cpp file?
793. # [05:32] <seth> it's defined in the header file (gfxASurface.h)
794. # [05:32] <seth> no wait
795. # [05:32] <seth> it's DECLARED there
796. # [05:32] <seth> the actual definition is in gfxASurface.cpp
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798. # [05:32] <@roc> and it's used by WriteBitmap which is in a header file, eh?
799. # [05:33] <seth> apologies for poor c++ terminology
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801. # [05:33] <@roc> if the *definition* of WriteBitmap is in a header file, try moving it to a .cpp file
802. # [05:33] <seth> roc: nah, WriteBitmap is definitely in nsWindowsShellService.cpp
803. # [05:34] <@roc> oh
804. # [05:34] <seth> indeed, it's a static function (in the "file local" sense)
805. # [05:34] <@roc> hmm
806. # [05:35] <@roc> I wonder how that function ended up referencing GetAsReadableARGB32ImageSurface
807. # [05:35] <seth> i added the reference =)
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809. # [05:35] <@roc> ok
810. # [05:35] <@roc> in that case
811. # [05:35] <@roc> I suggest making GetAsReadableARGB32ImageSurface virtual
812. # [05:36] <@roc> that will break the link dependency
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815. # [05:36] <seth> that sounds like a good idea
816. # [05:36] <seth> trying it now
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818. # [05:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f464b187876 - William Chen - Bug 847773 - Added override for GetWrapperCache with smart pointer argument to resolve ambiguity in templates. r=bz
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823. # [05:43] <seth> roc: OK, got a new try job going. thanks for your help!
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825. # [05:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d640169dd0d5 - philringnalda@gmail.com - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host slice - a=blocklist-update
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840. # [05:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6c12a1fd1dd - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 836076 - Part 5: Provide an API for converting event times to tick values; r=roc
841. # [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db2247a7ad09 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 836076 - Part 4: Move AudioEventTimeline::Event outside of AudioEventTimeline to be able to specialize its template members; r=roc
842. # [05:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9539c3f2112b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 836076 - Part 6: Hook up GainNode to the MediaStreams back-end to enable controlling the volume of the audio being played back; r=roc
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852. # [06:05] <philor> mmm, since https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=e3e79c49d75a has total Windows failure, including the ones on it that are starred as being fixed by it, is inbound ever so slightly busted?
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863. # [06:11] <philor> or did it need a clobber because we have no dependency system, and did it need a clobber on its backout because we have no dependency system?
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876. # [06:22] <lsblakk> jesup: pong
877. # [06:22] <@dolske> philor: hmm, depends.
878. # [06:23] <philor> heh
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882. # [06:26] <bz> Woohhooooo
883. # [06:27] * bz finally has b2g tests running locally
884. # [06:27] <bz> now to debug stuff... tomorrow
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888. # [06:29] <tbsaunde> philor: inbound busted you say what madness of which you speak?
889. # [06:29] <philor> interesting that a lot of our Win8 permaorange is intermittent elsewhere
890. # [06:29] <WeirdAl> !seen mano
891. # [06:29] <firebot> mano was last seen 5 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying '* Mano also tested...' in #places.
892. # [06:29] <philor> tbsaunde: I know, I couldn't believe such a thing was even possible
893. # [06:29] <WeirdAl> dang
894. # [06:29] <WeirdAl> I keep missing him :p
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899. # [06:36] <WeirdAl> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `backend.mk'. Stop. # building xulrunner
900. # [06:36] <WeirdAl> what gives?
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905. # [06:43] <m_kato> WeirdAl: Bug 847382
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907. # [06:43] <m_kato> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847382
908. # [06:43] <WeirdAl> yeah, I just reopened it
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912. # [06:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c43e96e4a41a - Phil Ringnalda - No bug, remove trailing whitespace to trigger builds on a CLOSED TREE
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914. # [06:45] <m_kato> WeireAl: maybe, no STANDALONE_MAKEFILE :=1 in Makefile
915. # [06:46] <WeirdAl> that's a new flag, isn't it?
916. # [06:46] * WeirdAl doesn't recognize it
917. # [06:47] <m_kato> WeirdAl: STANDALONE_MAKEFILE means don't generate backend.mk and include it
918. # [06:47] <WeirdAl> honestly I'd feel better if it was an official build log showing the bustage instead of my own machine
919. # [06:47] <m_kato> WeirdAl: you should fix Makefile.in in xulrunner/installer
920. # [06:47] <m_kato> s/you/we/
921. # [06:47] <@dolske> philor: missed your chance. https://twitter.com/djcapelis/status/308786426626072578 (sorta)
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924. # [06:48] <WeirdAl> I have no problem submitting patches, m_kato - I just need to know that they're the right patch :)
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931. # [06:51] <philor> wonder how long it's been since I pushed something (other than buildbot patches) that actually was reviewed
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937. # [06:52] <WeirdAl> I wonder when XULRunner will be either fully supported or fully deprecated...
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939. # [06:52] <WeirdAl> it lives in limbo
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941. # [06:53] <m_kato> WeirdAl: add STANDALONE_MAKEFILE := 1 after "include $(DEPTH)/config/autoconf.mk" in xulruner/installer/Makefile.in
942. # [06:54] <m_kato> WeirdAl: ex. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/installer/Makefile.in#12
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948. # [06:57] <WeirdAl> bah, not working with an incremental... m_kato, how do I avoid clobbering and pick up the change?
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952. # [06:59] <darkowlzz> ehsan: ping!
953. # [07:02] <WeirdAl> oh, the heck with it... I've got SSD and ccache
954. # [07:03] <nigelb> darkowlzz: He's on EST/EDT. You'll have better luck about 8 hours from now.
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958. # [07:03] <darkowlzz> nigelb: Hi :)
959. # [07:03] <darkowlzz> thanks
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961. # [07:04] <nigelb> hey :)
962. # [07:04] <darkowlzz> nigelb: any help with this bug? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844127
963. # [07:04] <nigelb> If it's something you're pinging ehsan for, I probably can't help. I'll look anyway.
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965. # [07:04] <darkowlzz> after reading the comments, it seems like it's about renaming and adding test
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967. # [07:05] <nigelb> Heh, yep. Not something I know anything about.
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972. # [07:12] <darkowlzz> nigelb: and in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/test/test_bug389797.html?force=1#115 make the changes accordingly
973. # [07:12] <darkowlzz> for tests
974. # [07:12] <darkowlzz> seems right?
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990. # [07:30] <WeirdAl> m_kato: ping again
991. # [07:31] <Mavericks> darkowlzz: replacing span with unknown in comment 2
992. # [07:31] <WeirdAl> thanks for that patch, but...
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994. # [07:33] <darkowlzz> Mavericks: yeah, check this http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2195687
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999. # [07:36] <m_kato> WeirdAl: pong
1000. # [07:36] <WeirdAl> never mind, I got this one
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1009. # [07:43] <WeirdAl> thanks for your help, m_kato - I have it working now.
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1017. # [07:49] <Mavericks> darkowlzz: looks right. html_htmlelement_tag for image
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1019. # [07:50] <Optimizer> I sent a mail to credits@mozilla.org around one month ago, how much time it takes for them to reply usually ?
1020. # [07:50] <Optimizer> and in turn, your name to be added to about:credits
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1024. # [07:53] <darkowlzz> thanks :)
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1041. # [08:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/015da7030aab - Alexander J. Vincent - Bug 847382: Fix XULRunner SDK builds. r=glandium
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1046. # [08:27] <WeirdAl> thanks for the fast turnaround, glandium
1047. # [08:27] <WeirdAl> very much appreciated
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1052. # [08:31] <WeirdAl> I give up for the night :)
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1061. # [08:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ede329b80bc5 - Henri Sivonen - Bug 844792 - Warn about the upcoming removal of multipart support in XHR. r=smaug, a=lsblakk.
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1079. # [08:49] <avih> hi, i'm getting some retrigger errors from the tryservers. is this a known issue? e.g.: Retrigger request for WinXP Mochitest 3 debug failed. (Build 21389159 not found on branch try)
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1086. # [08:53] <avih> over the past few days, i only changed mochitests code, and some NSPR log env, so supposedly the binary builds should stay the same. could they have been automatically deleted from the servers, but the try servers think they should still be there?
1087. # [08:54] <philor> avih: are you retriggering pending builds, ones shown as italic light grey?
1088. # [08:54] <avih> philor: i might have, don't recall. want me to confirm?
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1090. # [08:55] <philor> avih: if it's winxp, and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=88889739736c, it's pending, and retriggering those doesn't actually work, you have to wait until they start running
1091. # [08:55] <avih> philor: that's my build. i want to retrigger M3 for all platforms 5 times each, and 10 for all windows platforms
1092. # [08:55] <avih> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=88889739736c
1093. # [08:56] <philor> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try/rev/88889739736c
1094. # [08:56] <philor> note how self-serve doesn't actually have a button to retrigger pending jobs
1095. # [08:56] <philor> I think tbpl does just because we're cruel
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1098. # [08:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3fece5dfefd - Panos Astithas - Increase the timeout for browser_dbg_createChrome.js to avoid orange in XP (bug 766119); r=me
1099. # [08:58] <avih> not sure i follow you. i used the same procedure over the past few days, and it always seems to work. if i can see the M(3), be it completed or running or pending, and i could see the |+| retrigger button when i clicked the 3, then clicking it retriggered properly. but today it doesn't
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1101. # [08:59] <avih> philor: ^
1102. # [09:00] <philor> avih: no, you couldn't - if it was completed or running, you could, if you've never had it fail because it was pending then you've never tried to retrigger a pending job
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1104. # [09:01] <avih> philor: i don't have an exact timing log, but i'm quite positive i retriggered pending jobs. though i can't prove it.
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1108. # [09:02] <philor> avih: bug 755191 - pending jobs don't have a build_id, tbpl doesn't pass a request_id, it doesn't work
1109. # [09:02] <avih> philor: "same procedure" being: watch the page every few minutes, and retrigger on any platform which had the M(3) visible
1110. # [09:03] <avih> could it be that today it pends for longer durations, but previously it was typically pending for a very short duration such that i always managed to miss that state?
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1112. # [09:05] <avih> (and if it wasn't pending for more than few minutes, i highly doubt i managed to miss all of them. i did probably towards 200 retriggers)
1113. # [09:06] <avih> for less* than few minutes
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1120. # [09:09] <avih> philor: something definitely changed today in the retriggering. the tbpl page doesn't reflect the self-serve api page. i can't see the M(3 3 3 3...) after i trtrigger, after i reload, etc.
1121. # [09:10] <philor> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/jobs
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1123. # [09:11] <philor> both the fact that some of them took 4 minutes before they were processed, and the fact that those times are after midnight
1124. # [09:11] <avih> yes. it has much more pending jobs than the tbpl page shows: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=88889739736c
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1128. # [09:12] <philor> but yeah, if you do stuff on the weekend when nobody else does, it goes much faster than on weekdays, and if you live in a non-US timezone things go much faster on most weekdays, except the ones where the US weekday spills over into your day
1129. # [09:12] <avih> how is midnight related? and would it usually take much less than 4 minutes?
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1131. # [09:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/339085b4e9e6 - Richard Marti - Bug 845516 - Use 2x images for menu checkmarks. r=fryn
1132. # [09:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e9be4f5489d - Frank Yan - Bug 845306 - Use 2x images for menu arrows. r=dolske
1133. # [09:12] <philor> midnight is related because I have a day job, and midnight is my usual cutoff for play
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1135. # [09:13] <avih> i thought this was automated :)
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1140. # [09:18] * smontagu hates when you get email from a secure bug and can't work out what changed
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1148. # [09:25] <glob> smontagu, give bmo a pgp or s/mime key, and decrypt the message?
1149. # [09:25] <smontagu> glob: will that work retroactively?
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1151. # [09:25] <glob> smontagu, no
1152. # [09:26] <glob> smontagu, another kludge is to look at the X-Bugzilla-Changed-Field-Names header
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1154. # [09:26] <smontagu> and is there a shtep-by-shtep guide somewhere on how to do it?
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1157. # [09:26] <glob> smontagu, https://bugzilla.allizom.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=securemail
1158. # [09:26] <glob> oops
1159. # [09:26] <glob> smontagu, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=securemail
1160. # [09:27] <glob> smontagu, of course if you're using a webmail client, you won't be able to decrypt
1161. # [09:27] <smontagu> thunderbird
1162. # [09:27] <glob> smontagu, sweet, tb has s/mime support built it
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1164. # [09:29] <smontagu> glob: so I see X-Bugzilla-Changel-Field-Names: bug_status resolution. Why doesn't that show up in History in the bug itself?
1165. # [09:29] <glob> smontagu, i bet it does ;) what's the bug #?
1166. # [09:29] <Fallen> Whats the scoop with mach and comm-central? Do we still build it as before, or how do I build using mach?
1167. # [09:30] <smontagu> glob: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_activity.cgi?id=840882
1168. # [09:30] <Ms2ger> Fallen, there's no mach for c-c yet
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1170. # [09:31] <Fallen> Ms2ger: ok, because I see all the moz.build files, I thought that had to do with mach
1171. # [09:31] <Ms2ger> Fallen, orthogonal issues
1172. # [09:31] <Fallen> Ms2ger: ok, thanks :)
1173. # [09:31] * jchen|away is now known as jchen
1174. # [09:32] <Ms2ger> Np :)
1175. # [09:32] <Ms2ger> Ah, look, bug 847508
1176. # [09:33] * NeilAway idly wonders what document.register is
1177. # [09:33] <marcoz> Hi! Anyone know off-hand how I can update the Android NDK on OS X?
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1179. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, part of the XBL replacement from Google
1180. # [09:35] <glandium> marcoz: download a new one
1181. # [09:35] <avih> Ms2ger: for mochitest retrigger on tbpl, should it be possible to retrigger (with the + button after clicking the test number) while the test is pending? iirc it was possible during the past few days (when i retriggerd towards 200 times probably), but not today.
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1183. # [09:36] <Ms2ger> avih, I don't know
1184. # [09:36] <avih> k, thx.
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1191. # [09:42] <NeilAway> seth: nsWindowsShellService isn't part of libxul, so you can't just link willy-nilly to arbitrary methods like you've lazily got accustomed to ;-)
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1210. # [09:54] <darkowlzz> what's the meaning of |eHTMLTag_##_tag| in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/parser/htmlparser/public/nsHTMLTags.h#21
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1220. # [09:59] <firebot> mayhemer was last seen 4 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying 'bsmith: keel: ok, just r?me on the proper parts' in #security.
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1231. # [10:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09d75eb63721 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 815837 - DocAccessible::mDependentIDsHash needs to be traversed by the cycle collector, r=tbsaunde
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1241. # [10:08] <marcoz> glandium: Thanks, seems to work! :) (It
1242. # [10:08] <marcoz> (It's building at least)
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1253. # [10:15] <annevk> bsmith: do we keep a list of "magic headers" somewhere?
1254. # [10:15] <annevk> :/
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1261. # [10:19] <glazou> bonjour
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1273. # [10:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f73c5ece0869 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 614825 - <embed> should be display:none; when hidden attribute is set. r=bz
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1275. # [10:28] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: that's a purely imperative version?
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1278. # [10:30] <Wusel_> is it possible to sort the items of a xul-menulist?
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1280. # [10:32] <NeilAway> darkowlzz: it measn that the actual symbol is constructed from the macro argument
1281. # [10:32] <Optimize1> where do I file bugs/feature requests for AWFY, or is there a channel ?
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1284. # [10:33] <NeilAway> Wusel_: XUL has no sorting capability. If the items are inserted by code, sort them in code first. If the items are inserted by RDF, sort them in RDF first.
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1289. # [10:34] <Wusel_> ok
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1291. # [10:35] <darkowlzz> NeilAway: I found that |##| is used for concatenation in marcos . So, is it like a symbol is created by concatenating eHTMLTag and the argument, |eHTMLTag_##_tag|
1292. # [10:35] <darkowlzz> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iadthelp/v7r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.etools.iseries.langref.doc/ilcrefer17.htm
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1300. # [10:40] <KWierso|Home> Optimize1: the code is https://github.com/dvander/arewefastyet and I think you can talk to dvander about it in #jsapi ?
1301. # [10:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36e5a5b72325 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 813897 - Fix crash in URL Classifier when using a system principal. r=bsmith,dcamp
1302. # [10:40] <Optimize1> oh so js people are themselves the owner
1303. # [10:40] <Optimize1> cool
1304. # [10:40] <Cwiiis> ehsan, ping?
1305. # [10:41] <NeilAway> darkowlzz: right, that's what I was trying to say the first time ;-)
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1307. # [10:41] <darkowlzz> NeilAway: ah! thanks :{D
1308. # [10:41] <mounir> edmorley: sorry for doing two pushes so close to each other
1309. # [10:42] <edmorley> mounir: np; quiet time of day anyway :-)
1310. # [10:42] <mounir> 1124 / 951
1311. # [10:42] <mounir> sad to have those stats in a "quiet time" :(
1312. # [10:43] <edmorley> mounir: I meant more in terms of incoming load; that's just backlog from last night I presume
1313. # [10:43] <edmorley> (and I think there are a few zombie jobs in their due to the scl3 issues the other day)
1314. # [10:44] <edmorley> glandium: your m-c push needs starring
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1320. # [10:49] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: is that why my news client just announced that m.d.t.xbl no longer exists?
1321. # [10:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38fb986c0f86 - Ms2ger - Bug 839913 - Fix HTMLAreaElement's stringifier; r=bz
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1324. # [10:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, come again?
1325. # [10:52] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: re document.register
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1328. # [10:52] * NeilAway also wonders whether document.register is strictly imperative
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1330. # [10:52] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, no
1331. # [10:53] * edmorley changes topic to 'Intermittent-failure rate is out of control - please help out: http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/ || https://etherpad.mozilla.org/commonissues || Next merge: 2 April || New? Want to help? See #introduction || http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ , http://logbot.glob.com.au'
1332. # [10:53] <@smaug> edmorley: so do we know why we have more test failures these days?
1333. # [10:54] <edmorley> smaug: there's no single reason afaict (other than people not giving a damn and us rushing out features/new products)
1334. # [10:55] <edmorley> s/not giving a damn/not seeing intermittent failure bugs as something they should pay attention to/
1335. # [10:55] <edmorley> smaug: the current failure rate is now 10 oranges per push
1336. # [10:55] <@smaug> (m-i makes one to not care about test failures)
1337. # [10:55] <edmorley> when dec/jan it was at 2 per push
1338. # [10:55] <Ms2ger> And the assertions don't help, I guess
1339. # [10:55] <edmorley> Ms2ger: they're only just starting to be included in the stats tbh
1340. # [10:56] <@smaug> yeah, didn't we start to fail on assertions
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1342. # [10:56] <edmorley> so it's going to get worse once more of the weekly average includes those assertion oranges
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1346. # [10:57] <edmorley> Anyway, I've kind of reached my "right! that's it! heads^Wtests are going to roll!" limit
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1348. # [10:58] <@smaug> edmorley: cpearce has left?
1349. # [10:58] <edmorley> yeah, according to an all@ email a few days ago
1350. # [10:58] <edmorley> didn't say why
1351. # [10:59] <cpearce> no
1352. # [10:59] <cpearce> cjones ?
1353. # [10:59] <edmorley> oh
1354. # [10:59] <edmorley> sorry
1355. # [10:59] <cpearce> you mean?
1356. # [10:59] <Ms2ger> cjones left?
1357. # [10:59] <@smaug> yes, cjones left
1358. # [10:59] <edmorley> cpearce: oops, yeah must have been cjones
1359. # [10:59] <edmorley> sorry :-)
1360. # [10:59] <@smaug> cpearce: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792304#c119
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1362. # [11:01] <cpearce> argh.
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1364. # [11:02] <gaston> argh indeed
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1370. # [11:08] <Fallen> gps: do you have some sort of converter script for moz.build files?
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1372. # [11:10] <gaston> so who's going to be the ipc/ module owner ?
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1380. # [11:15] <@smaug> gaston: good question
1381. # [11:17] <Yoric> ttaubert: I'm working on code that depends of bug 842982, so I'd like to have your feedback on that one.
1382. # [11:17] <Ms2ger> gaston, you
1383. # [11:17] <Ms2ger> Fallen, what kind of script?
1384. # [11:17] <Fallen> Ms2ger: one that takes Makefile.in's and converts them to moz.build files
1385. # [11:18] <Ms2ger> There's something in a a bug...
1386. # [11:18] <Ms2ger> firebot, bug 847066
1387. # [11:18] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847066 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tool to automatically move variables from Makefile.in to moz.build files
1388. # [11:18] <gaston> Ms2ger: no friggin' way ! :)
1389. # [11:19] <Fallen> Nice, a bug at least :-) Thanks!
1390. # [11:19] <Ms2ger> gaston, sorry, the first to ask owns it :)
1391. # [11:19] <Ms2ger> np
1392. # [11:19] <gaston> damn cjones is the owner of a lot of modules actually...
1393. # [11:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1183cd0b083a - Jan de Mooij - Bug 847450 - Change FastInvokeGuard to only construct an IonContext if it needs one. r=h4writer
1394. # [11:19] <Ms2ger> And I wish someone would fix these leaks...
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1396. # [11:23] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah they're doing my head in
1397. # [11:23] <@smaug> gaston: well, I'd say he shouldn't be owner of pdf.js for example
1398. # [11:23] <@smaug> gaston: but ipc certainly needs a good new owner
1399. # [11:23] <gaston> oh espindola is leaving too ? :(
1400. # [11:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/47876c1d1c45 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 015da7030aab (bug 847382) for not following the tree rules (watching/starring mozilla-central after pushing) DONTBUILD
1401. # [11:25] <edmorley> Please note if you choose to land on mozilla-central and do not watch your push, you will be backed out ^^
1402. # [11:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94e0b7a6523d - Geoff Brown - Bug 846158 - Clear mEventReceived in robocop blockForEvent; r=kats
1403. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> edmorley, going to backout ffxbuild too? :)
1404. # [11:28] <edmorley> :p
1405. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> ffxbld, I guess
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1407. # [11:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/015da7030aab - Alexander J. Vincent - Bug 847382: Fix XULRunner SDK builds. r=glandium
1408. # [11:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47876c1d1c45 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 015da7030aab (bug 847382) for not following the tree rules (watching/starring mozilla-central after pushing) DONTBUILD
1409. # [11:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bff158a4b53 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
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1413. # [11:35] <mounir> Ms2ger: I hate your two review requests
1414. # [11:35] <mounir> I will do them because I'm stupid
1415. # [11:35] * Ms2ger looks
1416. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> Want me to throw them at khuey?
1417. # [11:36] <Yoric> gavin: I'd like to chat about bug 832664, when can we discuss it?
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1419. # [11:37] <Yoric> gaston: Yes, it seems :/
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1421. # [11:37] <mounir> Ms2ger: if you want to throw them at him, I will not complain ;)
1422. # [11:37] <Ms2ger> mounir, last review I got from you was directed at him, IIRC ;)
1423. # [11:38] <mounir> oh indeed
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1426. # [11:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f29a91718e4e - calbld - Added tag CALENDAR_2_2b1_BUILD1 for changeset default. CLOSED TREE a=release
1427. # [11:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/843a4b186477 - calbld - Added tag CALENDAR_2_2b1_RELEASE for changeset default. CLOSED TREE a=release
1428. # [11:39] <glandium> edmorley: you didn't leave me much chance...
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1431. # [11:40] <edmorley> glandium: the failures were unstarred for an hour
1432. # [11:40] <edmorley> inbound is there if you don't want to watch
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1435. # [11:41] <edmorley> make that an hour and 40
1436. # [11:42] <glandium> edmorley: i wanted it in a nightly. and it's actually npotb. and i was watching until i was in the train
1437. # [11:43] <edmorley> fwiw the nightlies will get generated on the push before the backout
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1440. # [11:44] <glandium> edmorley: erff
1441. # [11:44] * jfkthame wonders… if it's not part of the build, how does it get into nightlies? :)
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1443. # [11:44] <edmorley> I'm just fed up of people abusing m-c - this instance was perhaps justified if you wanted to make the nightly, but similar to the situation with the intermittent failure rate, we've just let people get away with bending the rules for so long, that it's time for a bit of zero-tolerance
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1445. # [11:44] <edmorley> jfkthame: not part of the firefox build (xulrunner)
1446. # [11:46] <jfkthame> yeah, understood … but if it is built in -any- way then it has the potential to cause tree breakage, and as such it needs to be watched
1447. # [11:46] <glandium> edmorley: meh, i won't argue
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1451. # [11:47] <glandium> jfkthame: npotb leading to bustage, by definition means it's an intermittent existing problem; or infra
1452. # [11:48] <edmorley> but they still need starring, regardless
1453. # [11:49] <jfkthame> if the push had been marked as NPOTB, maybe the sheriff would have been more likely to accept that, but as ed says, it needs starring - and on m-c, that's the pusher's responsibility
1454. # [11:49] <edmorley> jfkthame: I knew it was npotdb, it was backed out purely on the lack of starring
1455. # [11:50] <jfkthame> i think that's fair enough - i've certainly seen enough instances of things like this that i think you've got a good case for telling people to tighten up
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1461. # [11:59] <baku> Ms2ger, ping
1462. # [12:00] <baku> Ms2ger, ignore... I'll ping you in 20 mins :)
1463. # [12:00] <@smaug> jwatt: have you tried whether calling preventDefault() prevents thumb dragging on other browsers ?
1464. # [12:00] <glandium> edmorley: i was going to, but anyways, not arguing
1465. # [12:00] <jwatt> smaug: no, but I can do that
1466. # [12:01] <@smaug> please do
1467. # [12:02] <NeilAway> edmorley: wait, did you just merge just one changeset and its backout?
1468. # [12:03] <edmorley> NeilAway: I typically merge m-c to inbound at some point in the morning; today it just included those changesets, yes
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1470. # [12:04] <edmorley> NeilAway: I hadn't noticed there were just two (I script it), or I would have used DONTBUILD
1471. # [12:04] <edmorley> s/just two/just two that combined were a no-op/
1472. # [12:05] <glandium> edmorley: your starring of the osx opt orange is weird, to say the least
1473. # [12:05] <edmorley> which
1474. # [12:05] <edmorley> the plugin one?
1475. # [12:05] <glandium> yeah
1476. # [12:05] <NeilAway> edmorley: oh, hmm
1477. # [12:05] <edmorley> there are a few varients being put in the same bug, yes
1478. # [12:05] <glandium> edmorley: you starred it with the backout
1479. # [12:06] <edmorley> oh
1480. # [12:06] <edmorley> glandium: yeah, since it's now moot
1481. # [12:06] <glandium> edmorley: well, it hasn't been induced by the landing...
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1483. # [12:07] <glandium> man, there is still no wifi on board of the eurostar
1484. # [12:07] <edmorley> glandium: true, but I have enough to file on inbound as it is - if you'd like to file I would gladly welcome it :-)
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1487. # [12:08] <glandium> edmorley: i'm not sure if it's one of the various variants or if it's a new one
1488. # [12:08] <edmorley> annevk: run away! :-)
1489. # [12:09] <edmorley> glandium: that bug may have morphed after the semi-fix attached landed
1490. # [12:09] <annevk> I wish I could, but since I signed up for CORS it seems I'm bound to write networking-related thingies :-(
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1492. # [12:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e019954a133c - Jim Chen - Bug 831144 - Add Android XBL key bindings; r=neil
1493. # [12:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c124fcfa7414 - Jim Chen - Bug 831144 - Change tests to use Shift+Accel+Z for redo; r=masayuki
1494. # [12:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b224ddd1e13d - Jim Chen - Bug 831144 - Properly pass meta states to Gecko; r=cpeterson
1495. # [12:11] <edmorley> annevk: heh :-)
1496. # [12:11] <glandium> edmorley: i wonder if the mozalloc_abort signature shouldn't be separate
1497. # [12:12] <edmorley> quite possibly
1498. # [12:12] <edmorley> people love dumping everything in one bug
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1500. # [12:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e34d50ae941 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 835803 - Add tests for downloads whose size is zero bytes. r=enn
1501. # [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdfa6a0f2430 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 835876 - Add the ability to restart downloads. r=enn
1502. # [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c2cf61b8f39 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 835880 - Implement the basic DownloadList object. r=enn
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1509. # [12:16] <Optimize1> opera launched beta version for mobiles with webkit engine : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser.beta
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1511. # [12:18] <Optimize1> early benchmark results : http://blog.gsmarena.com/opera-releases-beta-version-of-new-webkit-based-browser-for-android-we-go-hands-on/
1512. # [12:19] <avih> edmorley: no progress on the leak. i tested a hypothesis, and it turned out off :/ but i did make progress with bug 833769. speaking of which (testing patch on xp), is there something wrong with xp try servers? most of the tests for them are pending for many pushes...
1513. # [12:19] <avih> edmorley: ermm.. 749894 :)
1514. # [12:19] <edmorley> avih: the queue is really long, not sure why; I'll pester #releng
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1516. # [12:19] <avih> edmorley: yeah, weirdly long i'd say... :/
1517. # [12:20] <avih> it's just xp though, non-xp windows is fine
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1519. # [12:20] <avih> edmorley: i think i pushed more than 4 hours ago...
1520. # [12:21] <edmorley> see bottom graph on http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/reports/pending/pending.html
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1527. # [12:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c174f3aed3c - Alexander Surkov - Bug 824662 - enable logging in accessible/focus/test_takeFocus.html
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1535. # [12:29] <Optimize1> edmorley: are the xp debug machines really really slow ?
1536. # [12:29] <edmorley> same machines as the xp opt runs
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1538. # [12:29] <Optimize1> this is regarding bug 843677
1539. # [12:29] <edmorley> the tests themselves just peform badly on debug builds
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1541. # [12:29] <edmorley> as for the hardware specs, no idea
1542. # [12:29] <Optimize1> why is that ?
1543. # [12:29] <Optimize1> too much gc ?
1544. # [12:29] <edmorley> 301 #releng
1545. # [12:30] <Optimize1> :D
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1547. # [12:30] <Optimize1> thats the best way yet
1548. # [12:30] <edmorley> Optimize1: debug runs on all platforms are upto twice the runtime (extra debug code, not optimised etc)
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1552. # [12:31] <Ms2ger> baku, I'll be away until 6pm or so
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1554. # [12:32] <Optimize1> edmorley: are you on #releng
1555. # [12:32] <Optimize1> yes you are .. so I have posted there
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1558. # [12:32] <edmorley> Optimize1: yes, but I'm not on the release engineering team
1559. # [12:33] <Optimize1> oh, but you manage the trees, so what does that come under ?
1560. # [12:33] <Ms2ger> Ateam, apparently
1561. # [12:33] <Optimize1> automation ?
1562. # [12:33] <Ms2ger> Yep
1563. # [12:33] <Optimize1> The A Team
1564. # [12:34] <Optimize1> sounds awesome
1565. # [12:34] <edmorley> automation & tools: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/ aka A-team :-)
1566. # [12:35] <Optimize1> so anyone has any theory, or ever seen a GC interfering an event, either from being fired or from its handler being invoked
1567. # [12:35] <Optimize1> (only on xp debug)
1568. # [12:35] <edmorley> but sheriffing pretty much touches on a-team, platform, releng & (to a lesser extent) IT
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1570. # [12:35] <Optimize1> I really want to reland the patch that you backed out edmorley :|
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1572. # [12:37] <baku> Ms2ger, are you still here?
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1574. # [12:41] <edmorley> Optimize1: I've filed bug 847868 for the longer than normal windows wait times
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1576. # [12:41] <Optimize1> edmorley: I really don't care about wait time :)
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1578. # [12:42] <edmorley> Optimize1: if you can't reproduce locally, then you only option is doing so on Try, in which case you will then care about wait times... :-)
1579. # [12:42] <Optimize1> I cannot repro on try too
1580. # [12:43] <edmorley> retriggers...
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1582. # [12:43] <Optimize1> I already have tried 3 time with 4 retriggers
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1584. # [12:43] <Optimize1> each
1585. # [12:43] <edmorley> Optimize1: that's no where near enough
1586. # [12:43] <Optimize1> that was not really a super frequent failure
1587. # [12:43] <Optimize1> so its hard to repro
1588. # [12:44] <edmorley> Optimize1: most of our intermittents have a failure rate of <10%
1589. # [12:44] <Optimize1> and i don't want to retrigger 10 or 20 times, as some people would not like that
1590. # [12:44] <Optimize1> acc to orange factor, that one was not even in top 30
1591. # [12:44] <edmorley> Optimize1: if it's to track down an intermittent, then it's kinda needed
1592. # [12:45] <Optimize1> I have history .
1593. # [12:45] <edmorley> Optimize1: note retriggering one individual test run 20 times is only a fraction of the infra load of a "normal", "let's build every platform and test" run
1594. # [12:45] <edmorley> even without asking for talos, a try run is normally 200-250 jobs iirc
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1625. # [13:10] <gfritzsche> edmorley: this star has some slave/infra issues too: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20335725&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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1627. # [13:11] <gfritzsche> "Automation Error: hg not responding" etc.
1628. # [13:11] <edmorley> gfritzsche: yes, mozharness does a rubbish job of hiding retry messages atm unfortunately
1629. # [13:11] <edmorley> from what I understand, that's "expected"
1630. # [13:11] <markh1> Optimize1: I did once have an "xp debug only" orange that turned out to be a legitimate timeout - the test was killed before an event being waited on fired. It was a big test doing lots of stuff, so a SimpleTest.requestLongerTimeout() (IIRC) fixed it
1631. # [13:12] <gfritzsche> edmorley: oh... good to know
1632. # [13:13] <markh1> Optimize1: and obviously a GC will collect weak references, which might be involved for observers, timers etc (but not regular events IIUC)
1633. # [13:14] <Optimize1> markh1: mine is a very small one. on a usual machine it completes within 1 second
1634. # [13:14] <markh1> bugger...
1635. # [13:14] <Optimize1> just involves 3 EventUtils.synthesizeEvent and one page reload
1636. # [13:15] <Optimize1> in that order only. When the test fails, there is a GC just before the second (or third) synthesizeEvent call
1637. # [13:16] <Optimize1> and then the event handler for that event does not fire, so test times out as flow is blocked.
1638. # [13:16] <markh1> hrm - bizarre
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1688. # [14:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38b9c30772a8 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 847856 - Only send logcat data when the user selects the URL checkbox. r=mfinkle
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1694. # [14:04] <RyanVM> lol @ m-c hardassery
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1700. # [14:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a38ff8b11dc0 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 726335 - Add support for receiving URLs via Android Beam. r=mfinkle
1701. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d6d7796e284 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 726335 - Add support for sharing the current tab's URL over Android Beam. r=mfinkle
1702. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9fa7600200f - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 726335 - Code formatting cleanup. r=mfinkle
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1722. # [14:21] <AutomatedTester> have we changed our UA again?
1723. # [14:21] <AutomatedTester> UA String that is...
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1726. # [14:21] <AutomatedTester> Google Adsense is pushing me to their mobile site in Aurora and Nightly
1727. # [14:21] <AutomatedTester> and is horribly broken in Aurora
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1730. # [14:22] <AaronMT> Only on days that end in Y
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1732. # [14:23] <AutomatedTester> I really wish Google wouldnt do UA String sniffing
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1734. # [14:24] <AaronMT> firebot: ua
1735. # [14:24] <firebot> AaronMT: iirc, UA is Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Mobile; rv:22.0) Gecko/22.0 Firefox/22.0
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1744. # [14:32] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: it's not often I get to say this, so I'm going to run with it - blame bz!
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1751. # [14:38] <bz> I claim that anyone who leaves a reviewed patch for over a week just sitting there
1752. # [14:38] <bz> for a bug that we need to merge to branches....
1753. # [14:38] <bz> Is at fault for whatever happens.
1754. # [14:38] <RyanVM> heh :)
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1759. # [14:40] <{V}> strange guess of firebot, considering he doesn't even know what product was being discussed :)
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1769. # [14:44] <darkowlzz> bz: ping!
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1775. # [14:46] <RyanVM> jesup: ping
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1782. # [14:49] <darkowlzz> can anyone give me some hints on how to implement this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844127#c10
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1799. # [14:57] <bz> Whoa, webkit is actually unprefixing transitions?
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1801. # [14:57] <bz> darkowlzz: sure
1802. # [14:58] <bz> darkowlzz: you know how to add a mochitest already?
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1805. # [14:58] <darkowlzz> bz: oh! yeah
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1809. # [14:58] <bz> darkowlzz: ok. So is the question how to check whether the prototype is right?
1810. # [14:58] <@bsmedberg> ted: I'm not stuffing every byte in, I have a std::min(0x1000U) so it should cap at 4k
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1812. # [14:59] <darkowlzz> bz: yes, that is what the tests do
1813. # [15:00] <@smaug> jwatt: whaat, are we looking at different code
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1815. # [15:00] <@smaug> in my tree IsSelectable is before the capturing stuff
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1817. # [15:00] <bz> darkowlzz: is(Object.getPrototypeOf(someElement), HTMLWhateverElement.prototype, "Prototype for someLocalName should be correct");
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1819. # [15:00] <jwatt> smaug: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/generic/nsFrame.cpp#2594
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1821. # [15:01] <jwatt> smaug: line 2635 vs line 2649
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1823. # [15:01] <jwatt> smaug: gah
1824. # [15:01] <@smaug> jwatt: oh, I thought line 2667 was the interesting
1825. # [15:02] <jwatt> must get my eyes checked
1826. # [15:02] <jwatt> smaug: anyway, setting it doesn't help
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1828. # [15:02] <@smaug> hmm
1829. # [15:02] <@smaug> why not
1830. # [15:02] <@smaug> we don't really do anything if not selectable
1831. # [15:02] <jwatt> don't know yet
1832. # [15:02] <jwatt> we must do something somewhere
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1834. # [15:02] <jwatt> let me dig and I'll comment on the bug
1835. # [15:03] <@smaug> k
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1837. # [15:03] <jwatt> smaug: just to be clear, are you talking about setting it on the <input> too?
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1839. # [15:03] <jwatt> smaug: and if so, would that not be bad?
1840. # [15:04] <@smaug> <input type="range">
1841. # [15:04] <darkowlzz> bz: apparently, I don't know how to add a mochitest. But I know how to run it. Last time, I just deleted a test file. Anyways, will learn this time :)
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1844. # [15:04] <@smaug> jwatt: not sure why it would be bad
1845. # [15:05] <bz> darkowlzz: ok. You just hg add the test file and add it to the makefile
1846. # [15:05] <bz> darkowlzz: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mochitest#Adding_tests_to_the_tree
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1848. # [15:05] <@ted> bsmedberg: okay
1849. # [15:06] <darkowlzz> bz: oh! so I have to create a new test file, not the existing one
1850. # [15:06] <bz> darkowlzz: yes
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1852. # [15:06] <darkowlzz> sounds great! :)
1853. # [15:06] <@ted> bsmedberg: clever use :)
1854. # [15:06] <@smaug> jwatt: we have that for http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/forms.css#183 for example
1855. # [15:06] <bz> darkowlzz: That doc I linked to has directions on doing that, links to scripts to run to generate a template test file, et
1856. # [15:06] <bz> er, etc
1857. # [15:07] <jwatt> smaug: ok, I think I misunderstood the docs then
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1859. # [15:08] <darkowlzz> bz: okay, I will try all these, setup the test and be back. Thanks a lot :)
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1863. # [15:09] <jwatt> smaug: so it helps if I put it on the <input>, but putting it on the thumb and the track doesn't help when the pointer event is over the thumb or the track
1864. # [15:09] <jwatt> smaug: not sure why
1865. # [15:09] <jwatt> yet
1866. # [15:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d2708dd192d3 - James Willcox - Bug 827254 - Guard against garbage plugin instance in ANPSystem::setPowerState r=blassey a=lsblakk
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1868. # [15:10] <Pike> bsmedberg: ping about the sparse toolkit l10n thread in .platform
1869. # [15:10] <bz> darkowlzz: no problem
1870. # [15:10] <@bsmedberg> Pike: I have no further opinions, nor time to think about it
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1873. # [15:12] <NeilAway> jimm: I don't have a win8 vm handy, you might want to try another reviewer
1874. # [15:12] <Pike> bsmedberg: so whatever gets the job done is OK? Then I'll try to whack up a patch
1875. # [15:12] <darkowlzz> many people are asking this question at #introduction, I would like to know about it. Can git be used instead of hg for moz-central patches? No problem in submitting git patches in Bugzilla?
1876. # [15:13] <jwatt> smaug: I seem to have been misled by another aspect of the docs
1877. # [15:13] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: yes it can be used
1878. # [15:13] <pranavrc> bz, ping
1879. # [15:13] <@bsmedberg> darkowlzz: to actually push them AFAIK you still need to use hg
1880. # [15:13] <jwatt> smaug: the page for -moz-user-select redirects to a page for user-select
1881. # [15:13] <jwatt> smaug: so I assumed I should be using user-select
1882. # [15:13] <@bsmedberg> unless there's a bridge feature I wasn't aware of
1883. # [15:13] <jwatt> smaug: but apparently that does nothing
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1885. # [15:14] <@smaug> jwatt: that I don't know. but hey, this is all about layout/css stuff and you're in the layout team ;)
1886. # [15:14] <darkowlzz> bsmedberg: thanks, I will paste it at #introduction
1887. # [15:14] <jwatt> smaug: never used user-select before though :p
1888. # [15:15] <bz> pranavrc: ack
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1890. # [15:16] <@smaug> lunch
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1894. # [15:18] <pranavrc> bz, so, I wrote the fix under the complete() method of the IDLArrayType, since it inherits from IDLType. Is that fine? The Dictionary test works fine, but 'sequence<foo>[] a;' seems to return an invalid syntax error, not sure how I should be writing that.
1895. # [15:19] <bz> There is no way to write that
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1897. # [15:19] <bz> It's just not possible in the grammar
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1899. # [15:20] <pranavrc> bz, should I omit that then?
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1901. # [15:21] <pranavrc> and remove the isSequence part?
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1903. # [15:22] <bz> pranavrc: assert that the inner is not isSequence
1904. # [15:22] <bz> and remove the test
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1908. # [15:23] <pranavrc> bz, righto
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1910. # [15:24] <Wusel_> how do I get the text of the selected email in thunderbird? I only found how to get the header
1911. # [15:24] <Wusel_> :/
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1918. # [15:27] <Wusel_> ok, found it ^
1919. # [15:27] <Wusel_> ^^
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1938. # [15:38] <RyanVM> dvander: that has to be a record for the most number of times I've been push raced trying to push to beta
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1950. # [15:43] <bz> Anyone here know anything about b2g mochitests?
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1952. # [15:44] <bz> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2196332
1953. # [15:44] <bz> What gives?
1954. # [15:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68b019bea6d4 - Chandan Kumar - Bug 708267: Add "non sequitur" to the en-US dictionary; r=ehsan
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1964. # [15:54] <bz> edmorley: ping
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1966. # [15:55] <edmorley> bz: hi :-)
1967. # [15:56] <bz> edmorley: you do realize I don't have people reporting to me that I can task with getting stuff fixed, right?
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1969. # [15:56] <bz> edmorley: so when you ask me to find and owner that really means "fix it, please"
1970. # [15:56] <edmorley> bz: or a colleague
1971. # [15:56] <bz> edmorley: I don't control their time
1972. # [15:56] <edmorley> or a manager who can assign to a colleague
1973. # [15:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d253208c90bc - Alexander Surkov - Bug 846204 - Unregister DocManager from DOM event listeners. r=tbsaunde
1974. # [15:56] <bz> why not start with a manager?
1975. # [15:56] <bz> anyway
1976. # [15:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd63d49eb5dc - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 834172 - Implement IsSupportedTypeInVideo in DecoderTraits. r=cpearce
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1979. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd75eab24983 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 834172 - Implement CreateDecoder in DecoderTraits. r=cpearce
1980. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/128510dd6c03 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 834172 - Implement CreateReader in DecoderTraits. r=cpearce
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1983. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6594d068e74 - Thomas Zimmermann - Bug 834172 - Remove GStreamer flags from webaudio Makefile. r=cpearce
1984. # [15:57] <edmorley> bz: because I was going by the modules page, and generally peers have a good idea of whom is best to deal with bugs
1985. # [15:57] * bz randomly fingers someone
1986. # [15:57] <RyanVM> lsblakk: ping
1987. # [15:57] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
1988. # [15:57] <bz> edmorley: this isn't even my module
1989. # [15:58] <bz> edmorle: it's filed in the wrong component, for one thing...
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1991. # [15:58] <jesup> RyanVM: the underflow assertion patches are all up for review, finally
1992. # [15:58] <edmorley> bz: I sorted through 50 or so of them this morning, I wasn't able to check if each one was 100% filed correctly
1993. # [15:58] * bz moves it
1994. # [15:58] <bz> edmorley: ok
1995. # [15:58] <edmorley> thanks
1996. # [15:58] <bz> edmorley: just sayin'.....
1997. # [15:58] <RyanVM> jesup: yay :)
1998. # [15:59] <jesup> Including a patch to remove all the suppression of assertions
1999. # [15:59] <jesup> (from these tests)
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2001. # [16:00] <RyanVM> bz: sorry about that, that was in the middle of filing a bunch of new assertion bugs and I must have gone off the test in that instance instead of where the assertion was firing
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2004. # [16:00] <jesup> bajaj: lsblakk: I think my Beta checkins missed the build; I was waiting on ba= and jorgev's comment wasn't clear that it covered that. They're in now
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2006. # [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fea3c18dfd7 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 823547 - Store the snippets version along with the snippets.
2007. # [16:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d958753bd1a2 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 820834 - Abstract about:home storage and make it async-ready.
2008. # [16:01] <RyanVM> jesup: I think you're good
2009. # [16:01] <RyanVM> they haven't tagged anything yet AFAICT
2010. # [16:01] <jesup> RyanVM: Cool!
2011. # [16:01] <RyanVM> i'm waiting on a ba for beta still too
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2014. # [16:03] * jesup wishes there was some documentation on ba= (and inclusion of a question about it in the bugzilla "Approval request" template!)
2015. # [16:03] <mconley> !seen spohl
2016. # [16:03] <firebot> spohl was last seen 5 days, 19 hours, 13 minutes and 50 seconds ago, changing nick to spohl|afk.
2017. # [16:03] <jesup> Maybe I have a chance to get a= on my other beta bugs and land them too!
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2019. # [16:04] <RyanVM> jesup: no kidding, I honestly don't know who to ask for it
2020. # [16:04] <RyanVM> (hence my outstanding ping to lsblakk :) )
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2022. # [16:05] <jesup> RyanVM: Try jorgev and bsmedberg - that's who akeybl cc'd/asked when I needed it
2023. # [16:05] <@ted> i think it's just existing drivers
2024. # [16:05] <jesup> I have 2 bugs waiting on beta approval.
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2026. # [16:06] <@ted> just a sanity check to make sure we've considered the possibility for breakage
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2028. # [16:06] * jesup is still officially a driver! ;-) Until someone updates that 10-year-old list...
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2031. # [16:06] <RyanVM> jesup: I say run with it
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2033. # [16:07] <jesup> yeah, I don't want everyone asking me for a=.... ;-)
2034. # [16:07] <jesup> been there, done that :-)
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2057. # [16:24] <NeilAway> lots of enterprise firefox haters in http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/War-of-the-Worlds.aspx
2058. # [16:25] <RyanVM> NeilAway: can't necessarily blame them
2059. # [16:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39abe4f67955 - Luke Wagner - Bug 841617 - replace ObjectElements::convertDoubleElements with a 'flags' field (r=bhackett)
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2062. # [16:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec8fb77b41af - Jim Chen - Bug 843048 - Delay setting IME context on Gecko thread instead of Java thread; r=cpeterson
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2064. # [16:28] <jlebar> hey, edmorley. I'm not entirely OK disabling tests that test critical b2g functionality, even if they go orange somewhat often.
2065. # [16:28] <jlebar> edmorley: That's putting the product at risk.
2066. # [16:28] <jlebar> edmorley: The orange factor says 10 failures in the past week. Is that really so much that you need to pull out the big gun?
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2069. # [16:28] <jlebar> Or so much that the test is useless?
2070. # [16:29] <edmorley> yes
2071. # [16:29] <jlebar> Yes to both?
2072. # [16:29] <edmorley> that bug has been an ongoing source of irritation
2073. # [16:29] <jlebar> edmorley: I understand that it's irritating.
2074. # [16:29] <edmorley> even with three tests already disabled
2075. # [16:29] <jlebar> edmorley: Shipping b2g is irritating in many ways.
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2080. # [16:31] <edmorley> http://i.qkme.me/3s98uh.jpg
2081. # [16:31] <jlebar> edmorley: if in your judgement the test is now useless, then okay, we shouldn't have uesless tests.
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2084. # [16:31] <jlebar> edmorley: If it's merely irritating, however, it's hard for me to feel like that's sufficient justification given the risk that disabling it presents to b2g.
2085. # [16:31] <jlebar> s/test/tests
2086. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> jlebar, surely we hired enough people to work on b2g to get somewhat reliable tests
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2088. # [16:32] <jlebar> Ms2ger: If they all reported to me, I promise you that I'd have five people working on the tests.
2089. # [16:32] <khuey> hahaha
2090. # [16:33] <edmorley> jlebar: periodically we have cases of intermittent turns permaorange. In those cases, not only do we miss the permaorange for a significant amount of time, we then in the majority of cases, disbelieve the test and otherwise disabled/work around it anyway
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2092. # [16:34] <edmorley> jlebar: in which case, then why were we running the test anyway
2093. # [16:34] <jlebar> edmorley: So you're saying that if this test started failing, you'd disable it and we'd get no additional information from the fact that it was failing?
2094. # [16:34] <Ms2ger> jlebar, if all you can offer is "I don't like disabling, but I can't do anything to change the situation", I don't see how this discussion is useful
2095. # [16:35] <RyanVM> jlebar: it's not like that test just started failing intermittently
2096. # [16:35] <edmorley> jlebar: for several occasions in the past that has been the case, yes ("test foo has been flaky for a while so <sheriff> I'm just going to reland the patch you backed out for turning this permaorange, disable the test and file a bug for someone to look at it <which will just get ignored")
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2101. # [16:37] <jlebar> edmorley: that's more information than we'd get if the test had never been running in the first place, but okay.
2102. # [16:37] * darkowlzz is now known as darkowlzz|afk
2103. # [16:37] <Ms2ger> jlebar, IMO, if nobody is willing to maintain a test, that's a sign that it's not important enough to waste our sheriffs' time
2104. # [16:37] <jlebar> edmorley: I guess your strategy worked in that I'll go to management and find someone who can work on this. I can blame you, which is easier than asking on my own behalf.
2105. # [16:37] <RyanVM> jlebar: we've seen this way too many times to believe that things will be different with this test
2106. # [16:37] <jlebar> Ms2ger: please don't troll me like this.
2107. # [16:37] <edmorley> even ignoring the "if we're not going to trust the test, then why are we running it" aspect; an excessively high OF undermines our ability to sheriff the tree (as well as increase our workload above and beyond what we can get done in a day)
2108. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> jlebar, not trying to troll, I seriously believe that
2109. # [16:38] <RyanVM> jlebar: I think Ed and I are both willing to accept ownership of doing what we need to do to keep the level of orange manageable
2110. # [16:38] <jlebar> Ms2ger: Please read my comment in the bug. We have been working overtime for months now trying to ship b2g.
2111. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> jlebar, you've shipped now, right?
2112. # [16:38] <jlebar> Ms2ger: It's really unfair to suggest that anything we're not working on we believe is "unimportant"
2113. # [16:38] <jlebar> Ms2ger: no, we haven't shipped.
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2115. # [16:39] <RyanVM> jlebar: not to mention that excessive starring is one thing that affects my ability to contribute to b2g uplifts
2116. # [16:39] <Ms2ger> jlebar, you've got a quarterly goal to fix all the crap you blamed on deadlines before, don't you?
2117. # [16:39] <jlebar> Ms2ger: I do not have that goal.
2118. # [16:39] <edmorley> jlebar: platform does
2119. # [16:39] <jlebar> Ms2ger: I have a goal of shipping a phone, as does the rest of the b2g team.
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2121. # [16:40] * khuey makes a note to expense a copy of How to Win Friends and Influence People and send it to Ms2ger
2122. # [16:40] <edmorley> lol
2123. # [16:41] <Ms2ger> khuey, excellent, I needed firewood :)
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2125. # [16:41] <RyanVM> hah
2126. # [16:42] <RyanVM> (like I was just saying to jlebar via pm) this ultimately sounds like an issue of conflicting priorities
2127. # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c92da2ea3d7 - Josh Matthews - Bug 844561 - Avoid prompting about closing private windows unnecessarily. r=ehsan
2128. # [16:42] <jlebar> khuey: You know, a debate judge once suggested I read that. :)
2129. # [16:42] <@bsmedberg> ted: ehsan: have either of you seen a bug to upgrade our MSVC 2010 builders to MSVC2010SP1 ?
2130. # [16:42] <jlebar> khuey: I'm not sure if the guy really understood the purpose of the activity...
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2133. # [16:42] * @bsmedberg can't remember whether we already switched to some newer version of MSVC
2134. # [16:42] * bz is so tired of people blindly moving bugs into Core components so that the component owners will do the actual triage
2135. # [16:43] <Ms2ger> bz, it works, right ;)
2136. # [16:43] <khuey> jlebar: ha
2137. # [16:43] <khuey> bsmedberg: we're on 2010 RTM afaik
2138. # [16:43] <bz> Ms2ger: I'm going to start assigning such bugs to the person that did the move
2139. # [16:43] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
2140. # [16:43] <jimm> bsmedberg: I haven't, just sdk upgrade bugs.
2141. # [16:44] * Ms2ger moves into bsmedberg's bugs instead
2142. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> s/bugs/components/
2143. # [16:44] <@bsmedberg> somebody emailed me to ask if we should upgrade. SP1 release notes mention code generation issues and perf improvements
2144. # [16:44] <RyanVM> we aren't on SP1 already?
2145. # [16:44] <RyanVM> yikes
2146. # [16:44] <khuey> I don't think so
2147. # [16:44] * khuey would rather upgrade to 2012 than 2010 SP1
2148. # [16:45] <jimm> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983509
2149. # [16:45] <gcp> bug 563318
2150. # [16:45] <gcp> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563318#c52
2151. # [16:45] <@bsmedberg> all of the codegen bugs appear to be with x64 not x86
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2156. # [16:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/333e89511b31 - Philip Chee - bug 722299 followup: VS2008 bustage fix for Bug 722299 Implement new IDN Unicode display algorithm. r=honza.b
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2159. # [16:50] <@ted> bsmedberg: don't recall, no
2160. # [16:50] <@ted> RyanVM: we don't change our toolchain lightly
2161. # [16:50] <@ted> it's a huge PITA
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2164. # [16:51] <RyanVM> i can imagine
2165. # [16:51] * @ted is kind of with khuey, would rather jump to 2012
2166. # [16:51] <@ted> if we're going to spend the effort
2167. # [16:51] <@ted> jump to 2012, unsupport < 2010
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2170. # [16:52] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, would you suggest that other browsers implement Components.interfaces.nsIXMLHttpRequest.HEADERS_RECEIVED as well?
2171. # [16:52] <gcp> wait till 2012SP1, then jump :P
2172. # [16:53] <RyanVM> mmc: ping
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2177. # [16:56] <bz> ms2ger: the question is about things that use "Components" to detect "Gecko"
2178. # [16:56] <bz> ms2ger: and then do UA-specific shit
2179. # [16:56] <bz> ms2ger: e.g. have you checked that mathjax does not break?
2180. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> That, too
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2183. # [16:57] <bz> Ms2ger: e.g. I think we put back window.netscape to make mathjax work....
2184. # [16:58] <Ms2ger> bz, I may have misunderstood, but I thought bsmedberg suggested supporting Components.interfaces....; I think that's a different question than keeping a propertyless window.Components
2185. # [16:58] <bz> ok
2186. # [16:58] <bz> Agreed.
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2188. # [16:59] * bz checks something
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2190. # [16:59] <Ms2ger> I don't feel strongly about the latter, but I'd like to avoid the former
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2192. # [17:00] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: no I haven't seen such a bug
2193. # [17:00] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: no, I suggested support Components.interfaces.nsIXMLHttpRequest
2194. # [17:00] <@bsmedberg> and just the consts on it
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2196. # [17:00] <@bsmedberg> e.g. "the stuff people are actually using"
2197. # [17:01] <bz> bsmedberg: Are people actually using that?
2198. # [17:01] <@bsmedberg> the original post said they were
2199. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> I don't think it's clear that that's what being used
2200. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> That's just bholley's guess
2201. # [17:01] <mbrubeck> Worldwide Mozilla beer break today at 17:30 PST (01:30 UTC) when Bugzilla vanishes!
2202. # [17:01] <glob> :(
2203. # [17:01] <bz> I suspect the original post is wrong
2204. # [17:02] <Ms2ger> Except for glob ;)
2205. # [17:02] <mbrubeck> Yeah, he'll need hard liquor
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2207. # [17:02] <bz> Sounds like a B movie
2208. # [17:02] <bz> The Day Bugzilla Vanished
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2210. # [17:02] <nigelb> Horror movie, if you're glob
2211. # [17:02] <glob> most of dkl and my work is already done .. it's all on IT today/tomorrow :)
2212. # [17:02] <Ms2ger> Oh, wait
2213. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> "The other half appears to be access to Components.interfaces, …"
2214. # [17:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1653161218b9 - Trevor Saunders - bug 846619 - add some static checking for use of _INHERITED cc class macros r=smaug
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2216. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> So I guess we look at the data again :)
2217. # [17:03] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: tree closes at 16:00 PST :)
2218. # [17:03] <nigelb> gerv: Hey, do you have a minute to chat about commit access?
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2220. # [17:03] <gerv> nigelb: sure,
2221. # [17:03] <gerv> no problem.
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2223. # [17:05] <bz> https://github.com/mathjax/MathJax/issues/317
2224. # [17:05] * bz hates mathjax's handling of UA stuff
2225. # [17:05] <bz> it's just so bad.
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2227. # [17:05] <bz> e.g. it locks out FirefoxOS
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2230. # [17:05] <Callek> RyanVM: O god I totally forgot I won't have bugs after 16:00 PT, that totally messes up my days work-plans ;-)
2231. # [17:06] * Callek might finally submit some PTO
2232. # [17:06] <Callek> ;-)
2233. # [17:06] <jesup> Callek: what's that?
2234. # [17:06] <jesup> ;-)
2235. # [17:06] <khuey> why do you need to take PTO?
2236. # [17:07] <khuey> If your employer isn't providing you with what you need to do your job that's on them :-P
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2239. # [17:07] <Callek> khuey: because I like to actually work for the time I treat as my "getting paid" period... I know crazy rite
2240. # [17:08] <bz> Why do you need bugzilla to work?
2241. # [17:08] <bz> I can throw you some work that totally doesn't need bugzilla
2242. # [17:08] <Callek> bz :-P
2243. # [17:08] * khuey needs to fill out an expense report
2244. # [17:08] <khuey> you can do that
2245. # [17:08] <Callek> you guys stink :-P
2246. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> :(
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2248. # [17:10] <Callek> (If I had planned ahead properly I could have all the info I need without bugzilla, but I didn't -- sorta happens when you're starting on a new project sometimes)
2249. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> You've got what, 8 hours left?
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2252. # [17:11] <khuey> 9 actually
2253. # [17:11] <Callek> Ms2ger: hehe, and ~4 hours of errands to run today ;-)
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2256. # [17:12] <RyanVM> khuey: heh, finally doing that myself
2257. # [17:12] <RyanVM> kinda have to pay that bill soon
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2263. # [17:15] <khuey> heh, thankfully I don't need the money right this second
2264. # [17:16] <khuey> I would like it back though!
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2266. # [17:16] <bz> the new system works fine
2267. # [17:16] <bz> as long as you don't try to rely on it for currency conversions
2268. # [17:16] * bz just listed all his stuff in USD
2269. # [17:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/10be0f4a5eba - Brian Nicholson - Bug 847634 - Add lines missing from uplift. r=mfinkle a=lsblakk
2270. # [17:17] <khuey> bz: oh you should never do that anyways
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2272. # [17:17] <khuey> I'm not aware of anything that accounts for foreign transaction fees automatically
2273. # [17:17] <khuey> without downloading stuff from the bank or something
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2277. # [17:18] <khuey> edmorley: don't pull your hair out just yet
2278. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e90c06c27bca - Randell Jesup - Bug 846553: Use non-blocking connect() for SCTP DataChannelConnections, notify disconnects r=mcmanus
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2281. # [17:19] <bz> khuey: I don't have any fees on my CC
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2284. # [17:19] <edmorley> khuey: yeah I should probably save some for later :-)
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2286. # [17:19] <bz> khuey: just a conversion rate tht may not match market quotes, sometimes
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2289. # [17:20] <khuey> if it's only sometimes that's interesting
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2291. # [17:20] <khuey> bz: usually the rate is off a % or 2
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2293. # [17:21] <khuey> maybe plus a fee if you're getting really screwed
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2295. # [17:21] <bz> khuey: the claim is no built-in fees
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2298. # [17:21] <bz> khuey: what the actual rate they get is varies
2299. # [17:22] <khuey> mmm
2300. # [17:22] <bz> khuey: but it's always within 1% of market quote I get on the web
2301. # [17:22] <bz> khuey: sometimes above, sometimes below
2302. # [17:22] <bz> khuey: so might just be a matter of what exchange they're trading one
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2304. # [17:22] <bz> er, on
2305. # [17:22] <khuey> I have a debit card that does market rates (maybe plus/minus a day depending on when the transaction posts) with no fees but not a CC that good
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2308. # [17:22] <khuey> bz: may also be time lag
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2311. # [17:23] <khuey> I'm pretty sure that's what mine is
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2316. # [17:24] <bz> khuey: yeah
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2322. # [17:24] <RyanVM> ehsan: ping
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2330. # [17:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f83e22300249 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e4a14eaefe1d (bug 841413) for mochitest orange.
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2332. # [17:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d861cca2103e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 846885 - Prevent double inclusion of qcms and gtkxtbin in build system; r=glandium
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2336. # [17:29] <edmorley> philor++
2337. # [17:29] <philor> solutions, I has them
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2342. # [17:30] <d3f3kt> hey do you think too that this line has a logical misstake https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/system/unixproxy/nsUnixSystemProxySettings.cpp#385
2343. # [17:30] <decoder> edmorley: philor: How would we go for unhiding the ASan builds on tbpl? they're green now and I think it makes sense to unhide so we can see when people break them. I guess filing a bug ? :)
2344. # [17:30] <{V}> Callek, maybe the various caches can help when you don't have access to bugzilla directly
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2347. # [17:31] <Callek> cache, whats that?
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2350. # [17:31] <Callek> I run with a read-only HD
2351. # [17:31] * Callek jokes
2352. # [17:31] <edmorley> decoder: they don't meet the criteria for unhiding atm (midway through writing the policy draft for that as we speak)
2353. # [17:31] <nigelb> Callek: Is that why you still use SeaMonkey?
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2355. # [17:31] <RyanVM> philor++ indeed
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2357. # [17:32] <nigelb> (sorry, couldn't resist)
2358. # [17:32] <edmorley> nigelb++
2359. # [17:32] <decoder> edmorley: can I get more info on that? dveditz suggested this
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2361. # [17:32] <edmorley> decoder: they only run on m-c at the moment
2362. # [17:32] <d3f3kt> @all nobody does have an idea?
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2364. # [17:32] <edmorley> decoder: so at first failure, we either hide thekm again or close the tree
2365. # [17:32] <bz> man
2366. # [17:32] <edmorley> decoder: with 100 changeset regression range
2367. # [17:32] <bz> chrome doesn't allow xhr to data:?
2368. # [17:33] <decoder> edmorley: oh ok. so we would need mozilla-inbound?
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2371. # [17:33] <edmorley> decoder: every tree that merges into mozilla-central
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2375. # [17:33] <decoder> i think thats impossible to achieve :(
2376. # [17:33] <@dveditz> you’ve got to be fucking kidding me
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2378. # [17:33] <edmorley> decoder: and Try (though ideally made optional, using the new try feature), so devs can diagnose failures
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2380. # [17:34] <@dveditz> it works on try
2381. # [17:34] <edmorley> ok, one down :-)
2382. # [17:34] <decoder> we dont have an asan keyword for try though
2383. # [17:34] <@dveditz> oops, I’m wrong -- it was hackery
2384. # [17:34] <decoder> that we still need of course
2385. # [17:34] <decoder> shouldnt be too hard though
2386. # [17:35] <decoder> but every tree that merges into central is unrealistic
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2390. # [17:35] <@dveditz> inbound might be worth it though
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2392. # [17:36] <philor> sure, you could run it hidden there, if you're having trouble bisecting the failures on central
2393. # [17:36] <decoder> for inbound it'll be a resource problem again
2394. # [17:36] <decoder> releng keeps telling they dont have the resources for doing more builds
2395. # [17:36] <@dveditz> yeah, releng doesn’t want to run it everywhere
2396. # [17:37] <@dveditz> can we make an exception where this one build type could be visible but okay-ish red on m-c?
2397. # [17:37] <d3f3kt> bz-> maybe you can help?
2398. # [17:37] <@dveditz> I mean, not “ok”, but not an immediate backout if everything else is green
2399. # [17:37] <edmorley> then it will need to be something specialist not shown in the default view, since the default view requires it be tree closing (amongst other things, writing a doc as we speak to formalise the rules already followed)
2400. # [17:38] <@bsmedberg> yeah, we really need a way to report this kind of thing
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2402. # [17:38] <bz> d3f3kt: hmm?
2403. # [17:38] <@bsmedberg> "something that's of interest to a smaller set of people but doesn't close the tree"
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2405. # [17:39] <@bsmedberg> ASAN, xulrunner, maybe some others
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2407. # [17:39] <edmorley> note for the tbpl replacement (initial design started; development taking place over next few quarters), we'll be having the concept of dashboards/views, which will mean we won't have to have the black or white shown vs not shown by default
2408. # [17:39] <jlebar> seth: ping
2409. # [17:39] <jcranmer> yay
2410. # [17:39] <d3f3kt> bz-> this line https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/system/unixproxy/nsUnixSystemProxySettings.cpp#385 will be ever true
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2413. # [17:40] <philor> we already have a way of reporting it, &noignore=1
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2415. # [17:40] <bz> d3f3kt: I have no idea
2416. # [17:40] <bz> d3f3kt: depends on what gconf tells us, no?
2417. # [17:41] <vmelnyk> hi everyone! I stacked in building XPCOM for Firefox Extension. it will be native component (dynamic library) I didn't found any workable example for Mac.
2418. # [17:41] <philor> what we seem to lack are the slaves that we can force to look at that and deal with bustage in it, since our current pool of tree slaves seems to be just a touch overloaded
2419. # [17:41] <edmorley> philor: I sometimes think renaming it "showall=1" would reduce the stigma with having one's test/build on that list
2420. # [17:41] <jdm> d3f3kt: what's the logic problem you suspect?
2421. # [17:41] <vmelnyk> could somebody help me to find any example?
2422. # [17:41] <@bsmedberg> philor: you mean people-slaves? I really just want a report with only the thing I care about (XULRunner SDK building)
2423. # [17:41] <d3f3kt> bz-> the methode will only be called, when firefox searching for system proxies. so !(IsProxyMode("manual") should ever be true.
2424. # [17:41] <edmorley> philor: lol
2425. # [17:41] <@bsmedberg> the problem with noignore is that I have to wade through everything to find the one thing I care about
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2428. # [17:42] <firebot> ms2ger was last seen 31 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying 'You've got what, 8 hours left?' in #developers.
2429. # [17:42] <edmorley> bsmedberg: use the jobname filter (takes regex)
2430. # [17:42] <bz> d3f3kt: no idea....
2431. # [17:42] <@bsmedberg> I don't know about that
2432. # [17:42] <@bsmedberg> what is it?
2433. # [17:42] <philor> bsmedberg: yeah, people, near as I can tell that's what most "I want my job visible" pushes are about, "I want other people to look at them and file bugs when they break"
2434. # [17:43] <@bsmedberg> philor: yeah, I agree that's silly
2435. # [17:43] <philor> bsmedberg: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&jobname=xulrunner
2436. # [17:43] <billm> hsivonen: ping
2437. # [17:43] <edmorley> bsmedberg: under the filters menu -> "job name"
2438. # [17:43] <edmorley> bsmedberg: eg https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&jobname=%28asan|xulrunner%29
2439. # [17:43] <@bsmedberg> thanks guys!
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2442. # [17:44] <edmorley> note also for the tbpl replacement I want to improve the UX for that, eg tagging of test/build types and easily display subsets of them
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2444. # [17:44] <d3f3kt> bz no problem, i hope my mentor jdm can help me :D
2445. # [17:45] <jdm> d3f3kt: you appear to be correct that it's only called when searching for a system proxy
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2452. # [17:48] <JosiahOne> bsmedberg: Google needs to learn about you. :)
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2454. # [17:48] <d3f3kt> jdm-> ok than this is the big bug :D
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2459. # [17:50] <d3f3kt> jdm-> i think when i replace the or(||) to an and(&&) it will work
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2464. # [17:51] <vmelnyk> guys, anyone can help me to build any simple example binary XPCOM for Firefox?
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2467. # [17:52] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: so, would you object to xptIInfoManager.idl -> xptIInfoManager.h?
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2469. # [17:53] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: I could help, but my first advice is "don't do that"
2470. # [17:53] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: perhaps you mean nsIInterfaceInfoManager ?
2471. # [17:53] <vmelnyk> unfortunatelly, i have to.
2472. # [17:53] <jdm> d3f3kt: && doesn't look like the right solution to me
2473. # [17:53] <jdm> although I don't recall what DIRECT means for a proxy
2474. # [17:53] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: what problem are you trying to solve? I'll bet you don't have to!
2475. # [17:54] <vmelnyk> our application need to synchronize document state with its own internal representation.
2476. # [17:54] <d3f3kt> jdm-> i will send you the patch in some minutes. direct means, that firefox doesnt have to use a proxy
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2480. # [17:54] <jesup> edmorley: RyanVM: Aurora OSX M2 - no idea what to do with Assertion failure: ownerThread_ == (void *)0xc1ea12, at ../../../js/src/jsapi.cpp:1034
2481. # [17:54] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: yes
2482. # [17:54] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: I don't know what that means, but why couldn't you do it using JS?
2483. # [17:54] <tbsaunde> sorry not sure how I confused myself :(
2484. # [17:54] <RyanVM> same here
2485. # [17:55] <RyanVM> jesup^
2486. # [17:55] <vmelnyk> for example, wikipedia page takes about 7 seconds for processing.
2487. # [17:55] <seth> jlebar: pong
2488. # [17:55] <d3f3kt> jdm-> the author of this file didn't core very well. when the bug is fixxed i will add some comments to the file
2489. # [17:55] <jlebar> seth: impeccable timing.
2490. # [17:55] <RyanVM> jesup: we'll see what the retrigger says
2491. # [17:55] <jlebar> seth: So, bug 845147
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2493. # [17:55] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: I think that's a righteous change, but I'd be very unhappy if you didn't remove nsIInterfaceInfoSuperManager at the same time
2494. # [17:55] <vmelnyk> 7 second after very hard optimization (it was about 30 before).
2495. # [17:55] <jlebar> seth: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845147#c35
2496. # [17:55] <vmelnyk> it is too long for us.
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2498. # [17:55] <vmelnyk> it is still too long.
2499. # [17:56] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: there used to be a scriptable reflection of interfaceinfo, but AFAIK that was part of a nondefault extension and doesn't build any more
2500. # [17:56] <vmelnyk> so i need something faster.
2501. # [17:56] <jlebar> seth: If I can figure this out for reftest, I think I can figure it out for b2g, since they're doing almost the exact same thing.
2502. # [17:56] <vmelnyk> there is no such thing as "assembler" for javascript :). then I need to use native code.
2503. # [17:56] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: lol, I hope you don't kill me for making those two seperate patches ;)
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2505. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: then remove supermanager first!
2506. # [17:57] <jdm> d3f3kt: just attach the patch to the bug and get karlt to review it; I really don't know anything about this code or gnome proxy settings.
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2508. # [17:57] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: there is in fact, but can you share a sample of what you're doing?
2509. # [17:57] <jlebar> seth: But I need help understanding what happens between "decode finishes" and "mozpaintwait".
2510. # [17:57] <demianovics> hi there. when i do Ci.nsIWindowWatcher.open(..) .. how do i get an onLoad, onReady or onOpen cllback?
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2512. # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> Such as: what information are you trying to extract from the doc, and how are you doing it...?
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2514. # [17:58] <vmelnyk> ok, one kind of activity: initial serializing of DOM.
2515. # [17:58] <seth> jlebar: hmm. so looking over this, it looks like maybe you are looking for the document's load event
2516. # [17:58] <d3f3kt> jdm-> i will :) thanks for your and bz's help
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2518. # [17:59] <jlebar> seth: No, for a few reasons.
2519. # [17:59] <vmelnyk> there is Serialize, but it makes hybride XML+html. we need only XML. but writing recursive serializer on javascript takes too much time.
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2521. # [17:59] <jlebar> seth: 1) Some of these reftests "finish" after onload.
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2527. # [17:59] <jlebar> seth: These are tests that do the "remove the attribute on the <html> element thing.
2528. # [17:59] <WeirdAl> :'(
2529. # [17:59] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: you want an XML serialization of the entire DOM, or just pieces of it?
2530. # [17:59] <vmelnyk> now we using Firefox serilaizer and a lot of workaround on server side.
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2533. # [18:00] <vmelnyk> in the beginning - whole DOM.
2534. # [18:00] <vmelnyk> then - updates.
2535. # [18:00] <jlebar> seth: But also 2) For b2g, these pages are already loaded. What I'm going to do is force decodes of images, and then I need a notification when that finishes.
2536. # [18:00] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: this sounds like a very strange thing to do...
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2538. # [18:00] <vmelnyk> second problem - highlighting and Firefox window state (active or passive now)
2539. # [18:01] <vmelnyk> it is kind of accessibility tool
2540. # [18:01] <WeirdAl> edmorley: other than checking in on the wrong tree, what was wrong with the patch I offered for checkin?
2541. # [18:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77bee20fb888 - Albert Crespell - Bug 839757 - Tests. r=honzab
2542. # [18:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc0537ee0094 - Cameron Kaiser - Bug 847804 - Remove assert in SVGPreserveAspectRatio.h. r=dholbert
2543. # [18:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/990a27c81bed - Albert Crespell - Bug 839757 - Interface definition. r=honzab
2544. # [18:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/016b6eb6868d - Albert Crespell - Bug 839757 - Implementation. r=honzab
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2546. # [18:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b9b7238d052 - Albert Crespell - Bug 839757 - Net glue. r=honzab
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2548. # [18:01] <seth> jlebar: so there are kinda two issues here. if all visible images aren't decoded at least up to the first frame on desktop firefox when the document's onload event is fired, that would definitely be a bug. things might be different on b2g or android though
2549. # [18:01] <edmorley> WeirdAl: 302 RyanVM I'm presuming
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2551. # [18:01] <WeirdAl> huh?
2552. # [18:02] <jlebar> seth: Okay, but everything is happening after onload, so I don't think that's the issue.
2553. # [18:02] <edmorley> WeirdAl: 302 as in redirect
2554. # [18:02] <@bsmedberg> vmelnyk: perhaps you could step back and explain what you're *doing* with all this saved state?
2555. # [18:02] <edmorley> WeirdAl: I haven't looked at any patch of yours as far as I can recall
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2557. # [18:02] <@bsmedberg> serializing entire docs is always going to be rather expensive
2558. # [18:02] <RyanVM> edmorley: the backout
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2560. # [18:02] <seth> jlebar: right. so it sounds like the page is changing after onload, and you want to catch the current state of the page?
2561. # [18:02] <WeirdAl> edmorley: it was my patch which glandium checked in for me
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2564. # [18:02] <WeirdAl> I assumed he was going to watch
2565. # [18:02] <jlebar> seth: yes
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2570. # [18:03] <edmorley> WeirdAl: oh sorry, that; yeah not your fault, just a general pushback by sheriffs on people pushing to mozilla-central and not watching the tree, nothing that was your fault
2571. # [18:03] <glandium> WeirdAl: i'm relanding
2572. # [18:03] <WeirdAl> ok guys
2573. # [18:03] <jlebar> seth: I think it's sufficient to say "let me know when all existing image decodes finish and are drawn."
2574. # [18:03] <WeirdAl> it just caught me off guard
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2578. # [18:04] <bz> uh
2579. # [18:04] <vmelnyk> there are two parts: server part (it has a lot algorithms to process content of the web page and sound it (via TTS)) and extension part (the only task is to synchronize document representation and to send user answers (from audio recognizers of spec. tools) to the page back).
2580. # [18:04] <jlebar> seth: And to get that, I think it's sufficient to say "let me know when all existing image decodes are finished and DOMWindowUtils.isMozAfterPaintPending is true.
2581. # [18:04] <bz> is it expected that b2g is red on try?
2582. # [18:04] <bz> make: *** [uploadsymbols] Error 1
2583. # [18:05] <glandium> WeirdAl: anyways, the good news is, the xulrunner nightly was green
2584. # [18:05] <bz> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic).
2585. # [18:05] <WeirdAl> glandium: :D
2586. # [18:05] <bz> Credentials cache file '/tmp/krb5cc_500' not found
2587. # [18:05] <bz> wtf?
2588. # [18:05] <WeirdAl> was it smaller?
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2590. # [18:05] <glandium> WeirdAl: i must say i haven't checked
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2593. # [18:06] <WeirdAl> it is http://ftp-scl3.mozilla.com/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/
2594. # [18:06] <WeirdAl> 8-)
2595. # [18:07] <WeirdAl> 500MB downloads for an SDK aren't fun
2596. # [18:07] <jlebar> seth: But I haven't been able to get that notification. I think I have a gap between "all images finished decoding" and "DOMWindowUtils.isMozAfterPaintPending returns true".
2597. # [18:07] <jlebar> seth: that's the part I'm trying and failing to figure out...
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2602. # [18:09] <philor> bz: yeah, expected, they aren't supposed to be trying to upload symbols but they are
2603. # [18:10] <jlebar> seth: but I need to go meet someone for lunch now; I'll ping you and maybe we can talk when I get back?
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2605. # [18:11] <bz> philor: ok, so as a try consumer....
2606. # [18:11] <seth> jlebar: sure. joe can also help.
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2608. # [18:11] <bz> philor: how can I get stuff out of that? :(
2609. # [18:11] <joe> RUN
2610. # [18:11] <glandium> WeirdAl: 60MB now
2611. # [18:11] <WeirdAl> yes, much, much better
2612. # [18:11] <WeirdAl> and if anyone really needed symbols out of the sdk, well, they should be building it
2613. # [18:11] <seth> jlebar: was taking a look at how snapshotWindow from the mochitest code works
2614. # [18:11] <bz> philor: this wasn't a problem a few days ago....
2615. # [18:11] <seth> jlebar: i think that's very much like what you want
2616. # [18:11] <philor> bz: you should increase the priority of bug 847683, and explain how because it's yadda and yadda, aki should push that right now, and catlee-buildduty should reconfig right now
2617. # [18:12] <glandium> WeirdAl: the symbols are probably on the symbols server anyways
2618. # [18:12] <WeirdAl> yep
2619. # [18:12] <philor> severity, whatever
2620. # [18:12] * bz sighs
2621. # [18:12] <bz> ok
2622. # [18:12] <bz> so
2623. # [18:12] <bz> symbol upload failed
2624. # [18:12] <bz> but why are there no builds in the build dir?
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2627. # [18:13] <philor> because symbol upload is haltOnFailure, and happens before the upload, I'd guess
2628. # [18:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c217df0f901 - Alexander J. Vincent - Bug 847382: Fix XULRunner SDK builds. r=glandium
2629. # [18:13] <bz> I see
2630. # [18:13] <bz> so given that aki is not around
2631. # [18:13] <bz> who else can push this?
2632. # [18:13] <catlee-buildduty> I'm already in the middle of a reconfig
2633. # [18:13] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, ping?
2634. # [18:13] <philor> betcha wish you'd pushed that first!
2635. # [18:14] <bz> Awesome, thanks
2636. # [18:14] <bz> After that, can I just retrigger?
2637. # [18:14] <bz> Or do I need to repush?
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2640. # [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0955470ac64 - Ali Juma - Bug 691661 - Add missing break statement in cairo-ft-font.c from upstream. r=jmuizelaar
2641. # [18:14] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: pong
2642. # [18:14] * catlee-buildduty checks
2643. # [18:14] <catlee-buildduty> boo, that patch didn't make it in
2644. # [18:15] <Cwiiis> Ryan, that test failure on bug 716403 in M8, is it only intermittent after my patches, or did they just increase the frequency?
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2646. # [18:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e56bc3efb690 - Josh Matthews - Bug 844671 - Only sync remote tabs to non-private windows. r=gavin a=lsblakk
2647. # [18:15] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, ^ (sorry Ryan)
2648. # [18:16] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: started with your landing and went away on the backout
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2650. # [18:17] <Cwiiis> damnit... The test should be entirely unaffected by any of the patches I added, unless it was a side-effect of some uninitialised memory or something :/ (and I'd have expected more and worse failures if that was the case)
2651. # [18:17] <jesup> bz: the uploadsymbols b2g try bug is a known bug.
2652. # [18:17] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, I'll figure it out, thanks for the info
2653. # [18:17] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: no prob
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2655. # [18:17] <bz> jesup: yeah, apparently
2656. # [18:18] <jesup> Bug 847065
2657. # [18:18] * bz is not impressed with the state of out b2g hackability. :(
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2660. # [18:18] * bz figures out he won't get any of this b2g stuff done today after all. :(
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2663. # [18:20] <@gavin> Yoric: what would you like to discuss? on IRC, or over vidyo?
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2668. # [18:23] <WeirdAl> Is <?xul-overlay ?> no longer supported?
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2670. # [18:24] * WeirdAl is trying to figure out why his load event listener said an overlay hadn't applied
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2674. # [18:25] <jesup> bz: I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked that b2g isn't in better shape
2675. # [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0e6dacd8128 - Joey Armstrong - bug 734139: replace mkdir -p calls with mkdir_deps
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2679. # [18:29] <Ms2ger> jesup, you must be new here :)
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2690. # [18:34] <seth> sigh. 12 hours is apparently not enough time for a windows try job to run =(
2691. # [18:35] <demianovics> i using XPCOM withing addon-sdk. when i do WindowWatcher.openWindow, a window opens. But i cant figure out when its "ready" to use?
2692. # [18:35] <gcp> seth: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847868
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2694. # [18:37] <seth> gcp: =(
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2697. # [18:38] <khuey> demianovics: add a load event listener to the window?
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2701. # [18:40] <demianovics> khuey: i do. win.addE..('load', f(){}); .. which fires, when i open it up wth "about:blank". when i do win.location.href = "http://www.google.com", the listener wont fire again. even if a attach a new one within the first listener
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2705. # [18:42] * @bsmedberg wonders if there's an easy way to ask git whether his total contribution of code to mozilla has been to add lines or remove them
2706. # [18:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45d4f7b16c2f - Joe Drew - Bug 847559 - Handle writes to a size-only JPEG decoder after we've gotten the size. r=seth
2707. # [18:42] <demianovics> i did the locatio.href change within the first listener. when i open the window up with "http://www.google.de" even the first listener doenst to anything.
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2711. # [18:44] <demianovics> so i am doing an window.setTimeout, which #1 is quite stupid and #2 only works if i put an window.alert("foo"); before assigning .setTimeout to window. dont gt why
2712. # [18:44] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: 171 commits / 124,103 ++ / 160,229 --
2713. # [18:44] <jcranmer> [to mozilla-central]
2714. # [18:44] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, 171 commits?
2715. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I think we're missing some...
2716. # [18:45] <jcranmer> that's what github claims
2717. # [18:45] <jcranmer> try running hg churn on your hg repos
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2719. # [18:46] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: it looks like it's only counting since October 2010
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2722. # [18:46] <khuey> bsmedberg's hard work is just an illusion
2723. # [18:46] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, I see
2724. # [18:47] <@bsmedberg> khuey: hey, I'm happy that it's more -- than ++ ;-)
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2726. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, ah, but what are the stats before 2010...
2727. # [18:47] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I'll get you the numbers for all of mozilla-central until two or three days ago
2728. # [18:47] <jcranmer> once my disk stops burning up
2729. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> my really old username was bsmedberg@covad.net
2730. # [18:48] <@bsmedberg> back from CVS days
2731. # [18:48] <jcranmer> yeah, I don't have pre-hg history
2732. # [18:48] <@gavin> you mean bsmedberg%covad.net :)
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2734. # [18:49] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I guess I do
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2737. # [18:49] <jcranmer> well, hg churn miscounts move stats
2738. # [18:50] * philor is now known as philor|away
2739. # [18:50] <jcranmer> in that, if you hg move a b, it counts the filesize as both - and +
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2741. # [18:50] <@bsmedberg> that's ok as long as they cancel
2742. # [18:51] <jcranmer> still crunching numbers
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2748. # [18:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f29a926e2bdb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 9c92da2ea3d7 (bug 844561) for mochitest b-c orange.
2749. # [18:54] <jorendorff> I don't see anyone from Mozilla listed as an editor on the httpbis drafts. Are any Mozillians involved / following?
2750. # [18:54] <jorendorff> particularly http/2.0
2751. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> Does jreschke count?
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2754. # [18:56] <jorendorff> i dunno
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2766. # [18:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d81fc67e6ed - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 45d4f7b16c2f (bug 847559) for bustage.
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2772. # [18:59] <RyanVM|away> mounir: just heading out the door
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2782. # [19:01] <mounir> RyanVM|away: will you push the stuff in bug 813897?
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2784. # [19:01] <mounir> RyanVM|away: I mean, is that in your radar?
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2786. # [19:01] <RyanVM|away> yes
2787. # [19:01] <jcranmer> wow, I have a +42K/-11K diff in comm-central
2788. # [19:01] <mounir> \o/
2789. # [19:01] <mounir> RyanVM|away++
2790. # [19:01] <jcranmer> of course, I think that's mostly from adding a test file which is ~30K
2791. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> RyanVM++
2792. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, so, I know I say I like having a lot of tests...
2793. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, but 30K?
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2795. # [19:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68c3cee0d464 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Stop attaching Components in InitClasses. r=mrbkap
2796. # [19:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d8d36cce3e3 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Omit Components object for content scopes. r=mrbkap
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2798. # [19:03] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: I added a mime torture test file
2799. # [19:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e1f22477180 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Fix two more toolkit tests. r=me
2800. # [19:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cac9eeba156e - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Remove the aTarget parameter from AttachComponentsObject. r=mrbkap
2801. # [19:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00b10e10d356 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Remove Components warning and Telemetry. r=mrbkap
2802. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, oh, mime
2803. # [19:03] <jcranmer> sorry, that's only 25K lines
2804. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, I don't want to know about mime
2805. # [19:03] <jcranmer> I'll make up for it by later rm -rf'ing mime/
2806. # [19:03] <jcranmer> which will give me a ~ -30K
2807. # [19:03] <jcranmer> [m-c is still crunching]
2808. # [19:04] <jcranmer> bsmedberg-brb: you'll be happy to know that your total c-c contributions is a wash of +15685/-15685
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2824. # [19:11] <vlad> is the rich editor on wikimo being broken in nightly a known thing?
2825. # [19:11] <vlad> I can't even disable it once I enable it
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2833. # [19:15] <Mook_as> jcranmer: I get [2003454, 810278] for m-c (grepping for --author "smedberg")
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2835. # [19:15] <Mook_as> (using http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2196676 )
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2858. # [19:29] <reuben> test_elementState.py TestStateChrome.test_isDisplayed | NoSuchElementException: Unable to locate element: textInput
2859. # [19:29] <reuben> bugzilla has a bunch of similar oranges but not that one
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2864. # [19:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa67fd3bbb44 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 846843 - Scrub profile directory from error strings; r=rnewman
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2866. # [19:33] <jesup> Mook_as: it's all those other Smedbergs that are messing you up :-)
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2868. # [19:33] <Mook_as> could be! that's why I pasted the commandline, hopefully it's repeatable :D
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2870. # [19:34] <Mook_as> (across branches is +2005824, -811050)
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2885. # [19:42] <tbsaunde> 0hm, I seem to have added ~15000 lines :(
2886. # [19:42] <khuey> ehsan: ping
2887. # [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da51c5373da5 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 847119. Fix the "did the DOM call throw?" test in IonMonkey to check the return value correctly. r=jandem
2888. # [19:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60eb333fc671 - Boris Zbarsky - Remove no longer used NodeIterator quickstubs. No bug. r=peterv
2889. # [19:43] <@ehsan> khuey: in an interview
2890. # [19:43] <khuey> :-P
2891. # [19:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/49c857a97542 - tbirdbld - Added THUNDERBIRD_20_0b1_RELEASE THUNDERBIRD_20_0b1_BUILD1 tag(s) for changeset 3204ef4fb450. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
2892. # [19:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3204ef4fb450 - tbirdbld - Automated checkin: version bump for thunderbird 20.0b1 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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2894. # [19:44] <Ms2ger> ehsan, are we hiring someone to work on editor?
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2898. # [19:46] <Mook_as> Ms2ger: aren't there laws against cruel and unusual punishment?
2899. # [19:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e2fc9c3b3c5 - Nick Alexander - Bug 836208 - Part 1: Factor resolve_target_to_make out of mozbuild.mach_commands. r=glandium
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2901. # [19:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64bad42e13b7 - Nick Alexander - Bug 836208 - Part 2: Make |mach build some/Makefile| start one level up. r=glandium
2902. # [19:46] <khuey> Mook_as: only in some countries
2903. # [19:46] <Ms2ger> Mook_as, in Canada? I bet it's fine as long as we say sorry
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2909. # [19:48] <mjrosenb> !seen anaaktge
2910. # [19:48] <firebot> anaaktge was last seen 160 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes and 29 seconds ago,
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2912. # [19:48] <mjrosenb> err...
2913. # [19:49] <mjrosenb> !seen allie
2914. # [19:49] <firebot> I've never seen an 'allie', sorry.
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2918. # [19:50] <robarnold> mjrosenb: you want 'ally'
2919. # [19:51] <firebot> Check-in:
2920. # [19:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0f57c0bda009 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 843214: Make SourceMediaStream::AddTrack/AppendToTrack/HaveEnoughBuffered/DispatchWhenNotEnoughBuffered/EndTrack smoothly handle cases where track does not exist.
2921. # [19:51] <firebot> r=jesup a=lsblakk
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2923. # [19:51] <mjrosenb> robarnold: so I do. danke
2924. # [19:52] <mjrosenb> !seen ally
2925. # [19:52] <firebot> ally was last seen 14 hours, 2 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying 'KWierso|Home: fortunate' in #windev.
2926. # [19:52] <Optimizer> will the removal of makefiles and introcuction of moz.build file reduce build times ?
2927. # [19:52] <bz> Optimizer: long-term, maybe
2928. # [19:52] <Optimizer> on windows ?
2929. # [19:52] <Optimizer> answer now :P
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2931. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> Not yet
2932. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> But eventually, yes
2933. # [19:53] <Optimizer> my build takes around 80-90 minutes atleast, and recently there have been so much Clobbers :(
2934. # [19:53] <Ameya> !seen Yoric
2935. # [19:53] <firebot> yoric was last seen 8 hours, 16 minutes and 37 seconds ago, saying 'gaston: Yes, it seems :/' in #developers.
2936. # [19:53] <Archaeopteryx> "Not yet. But eventually it will. This initial landing paves the groundwork to making the tree build faster (see the Future section above)."
2937. # [19:54] <Archaeopteryx> see http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2013/02/28/moz.build-files-and-the-firefox-build-system/
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2939. # [19:54] <Optimizer> I saw that, but my main question was the impact on windows
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2941. # [19:55] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, I don't think there's much of a platform-specific part here
2942. # [19:55] <Optimizer> so windows will keep on being slow then ?
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2945. # [19:55] <Optimizer> (comparatively)
2946. # [19:56] <Ms2ger> I suspect so, yes
2947. # [19:56] <froydnj> I think eventually the idea is to use something faster on windows
2948. # [19:56] <Optimizer> are there any good suggestions to follow to decrease the time right now ?
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2950. # [19:56] <Optimizer> I used the no indexing one, doesn't seem to help
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2952. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4289e21c2b36 - Steven Michaud - Bug 837539 - Fix crashes due to premature deinitialization. r=rjesup,bgirard a=lsblakk
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2955. # [19:58] <froydnj> glandium: right
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2957. # [19:59] <glandium> froydnj: ECHAN
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2960. # [20:00] * NeilAway should introduce Ms2ger to the Patrician from Discworld
2961. # [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f3d297633e0 - Robert Longson - Bug 818177 - mark anim-filter-filterRes-01.svg random on Windows XP. r=dholbert
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2963. # [20:00] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, one man, one vote, and that one man is him?
2964. # [20:01] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: no, he doesn't like mimes either
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2967. # [20:01] <Ms2ger> Oh, you're that far back ;)
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2977. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/de200581d19b - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Backout of 640b31a66dfe due to regression. [r=me] [a=bbajaj]
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2983. # [20:03] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: it is useful to assume that NeilAway is responding to some comment on IRC that is several hours back
2984. # [20:03] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, I should know by now
2985. # [20:03] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: if I was less far back I'd have volunteered you to own editor :-P
2986. # [20:03] <WeirdAl> Hi, all - is there a good way to parse XHTML markup and ensure that only a few HTML elements like <strong> are included in the tree?
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2988. # [20:04] <WeirdAl> (excluding script tags, for example)
2989. # [20:04] <@dbaron> orangefactor has improved a lot in the last 2 days
2990. # [20:04] <jcranmer> DOMParser + DOMTreeWalker ?
2991. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> WeirdAl, DOMParser and querySelector(":not(strong)")?
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2993. # [20:05] * WeirdAl hasn't had a lot of practice with querySelector
2994. # [20:05] <Optimizer> dbaron: because everything has been backed out ? :P
2995. # [20:05] <@dbaron> Optimizer, no
2996. # [20:06] <Optimizer> well mine did so I am ranting.
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3003. # [20:08] <froydnj> Optimizer: don't break things ;)
3004. # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcf8ffe7a3a0 - Shane Caraveo - bug 797298 make logged out information icon themeable, r=markh
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3008. # [20:09] <Optimizer> froydnj: it was not even in top 30 intermittents , and I am trying to repro it for a long time now
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3010. # [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6de0da52f3a3 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 842217 - Contacts list swipe and pan gets stuck because of frequent GCs. r=billm
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3012. # [20:10] <@ehsan> khuey: pong
3013. # [20:10] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: unfortunately no :(
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3015. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> ehsan, lemme guess, mobile
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3017. # [20:11] <lsblakk> Bas: ping on bug 817019
3018. # [20:11] <@ehsan> nope
3019. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> Not?
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3022. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> You can't be suggesting platform?
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3024. # [20:11] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you're not doing very well on this mini interview :P
3025. # [20:12] <khuey> ehsan: so I have a question about ThreadLocal
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3027. # [20:12] <khuey> and it looks like you have blame
3028. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> ehsan, for my job interview, I should try to get interviewed only by people who already offered me a job ;)
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3030. # [20:12] <khuey> Ms2ger: are there enough of us for a full interview slate?
3031. # [20:12] <@ehsan> khuey: ok, shoot!
3032. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> khuey, how many do I need? :)
3033. # [20:12] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: that would be the smart move ;)
3034. # [20:13] <khuey> Ms2ger: 6
3035. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> Hmm
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3037. # [20:13] <khuey> ehsan: ThreadLocal::init()
3038. # [20:13] <Ms2ger> Possibly
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3040. # [20:13] <khuey> ehsan: what's the right way to ensure its only called once if I don't know what thread will be the first to get to it
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3044. # [20:14] <Ms2ger> khuey, looks like I've got 4 written down :)
3045. # [20:14] <mmc> ryanvm, i am here
3046. # [20:14] <khuey> Ms2ger: ok you're getting there
3047. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> I've got a year or two left, too
3048. # [20:15] <@ehsan> khuey: there is an initialized() method on ThreadLocal iirc
3049. # [20:15] * khuey doesn't see how that helps stop threads from racing?
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3053. # [20:16] <@ehsan> khuey: oh, so multiple threads can call init() around the same time?
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3055. # [20:16] <khuey> ehsan: that's what I would be worried about, yes
3056. # [20:16] <@ehsan> hmm
3057. # [20:17] <@ehsan> that's not something that ThreadLocal can handle on its own
3058. # [20:17] <khuey> I can do compare and swap on an external variable
3059. # [20:17] <khuey> I was just wondering if there's something better
3060. # [20:17] <@ehsan> but it's usually a good idea to initialize these objects either at startup
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3062. # [20:17] <@ehsan> or some other time where you can guarantee that there won't be a race over the initialization
3063. # [20:17] <@ehsan> so, for example, initing them when creating a new object is a bad idea
3064. # [20:18] <khuey> ok
3065. # [20:18] <khuey> ehsan: second question
3066. # [20:18] <khuey> does ThreadLocal work on all the platforms we care about?
3067. # [20:18] <@ehsan> khuey: yes
3068. # [20:18] <@ehsan> khuey: it uses win32 apis on windows, and pthreads everywhere else
3069. # [20:18] <Bas> lsblakk: Argh, sorry, missed our comment.
3070. # [20:19] <khuey> cool
3071. # [20:19] <joe> RyanVM|mtg: ugh, i am awful at this
3072. # [20:19] <RyanVM|mtg> joe: heh
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3075. # [20:20] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|mtg, lemme prepare a patch that builds for aurora ;)
3076. # [20:20] <khuey> ehsan: ty
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3079. # [20:21] <RyanVM|mtg> Ms2ger: always appreciated :)
3080. # [20:21] * mcote is now known as mcote|afk
3081. # [20:21] <@ehsan> khuey: no worries
3082. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> But first...
3083. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> added 4520 changesets with 23147 changes to 10731 files
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3089. # [20:23] * NeilAway wonders whether window.netscape ever had any properties other than netscape.security.enablePrivilege
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3093. # [20:24] <bz> in Gecko, afaik no
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3097. # [20:26] <jdm> ugh, the edit+compile+test cycle on my bootcamp windows is awful
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3099. # [20:26] <jdm> a clober build took more than 2 hours
3100. # [20:26] <jdm> and even building browser/ is a 30 second affair
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3102. # [20:29] <philor> you'll probably want to avoid running xpcshell tests, too
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3106. # [20:29] <erikvold> is it possible to observe when the value returned from getMostRecentWindow() on nsIWindowMediator changes ?
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3108. # [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9a12955bf5d - Shane Caraveo - bug 786133 allow install of social providers from AMO and web, r=felipe
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3111. # [20:30] <mbrubeck> jdm: Clobber builds take over 60 minutes even my brand new Ivy Bridge Core i7 thinkpad with 8GB RAM and SSD.
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3114. # [20:31] <mbrubeck> I think serious Gecko development on Windows really requires a beefy desktop machine
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3118. # [20:31] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: damn dude, 40min here
3119. # [20:31] <@ted> http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/plugin-container-sample.txt
3120. # [20:31] <@ted> so this is depressing
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3122. # [20:32] <@ted> trying to reproduce the failure in bug 706751, i ran test_content_annotation.js in a loop on my MBP
3123. # [20:32] <@ted> now it's apparently hung because part of the internal exception handling on mac is trying to malloc
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3125. # [20:32] <@ted> and it's hung in a spin lock
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3127. # [20:32] <@bsmedberg> oh
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3130. # [20:33] <@bsmedberg> that might explain some things about all the mac plugin tests hanging!
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3132. # [20:33] <@ted> this is well and truly hung
3133. # [20:33] <khuey> bsmedberg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764369#c151
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3136. # [20:34] <@bsmedberg> khuey: I think it's already stored in PRLock. I just haven't had time to go diving into that.
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3140. # [20:35] <khuey> bsmedberg: indeed it is
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3150. # [20:40] <d3f3kt> hey can anybody please sell me what this line mean https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/system/unixproxy/nsUnixSystemProxySettings.cpp#190 i dont know exactly what firefox will do, when he got the result DIRECT
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3159. # [20:42] <jdm> d3f3kt: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsProtocolProxyService.cpp#1539
3160. # [20:42] <jdm> it ends up calling ProcessPACString with the result
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3166. # [20:43] <jdm> d3f3kt: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/nsProtocolProxyService.cpp#701
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3168. # [20:43] <Mavericks> mbrubeck: more specs on desktop machine. 60 mins somehow sounded better for me considering it takes longer on mine and it isn't new('07)
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3172. # [20:44] <d3f3kt> jdm-> thanks a lot i hope i will get it now running. btw you gave me a very heavy bug :p
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3176. # [20:45] <jlebar> khuey: ping
3177. # [20:46] <mbrubeck> Mavericks: I don't have a desktop build machine myself, but I think you can get Windows clobber builds down to around 30 minutes with a new top-of-the-line desktop CPU and fast SSD.
3178. # [20:46] <khuey> jlebar: hi
3179. # [20:46] <jlebar> khuey: can you halp me with image decode notifications?
3180. # [20:46] <jlebar> khuey: you seem to be all over the blame for this file
3181. # [20:47] <khuey> jlebar: I can try
3182. # [20:47] <jlebar> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845147 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846177
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3184. # [20:48] <jlebar> khuey: The issue, I think, is that I would like a notification which says "all image decodes are done, and if you wait until the next mozAfterPaint, you'll see them."
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3187. # [20:48] <jlebar> I want to make reftest wait until it gets this notification, in the first bug, and in the second bug, I want to make b2g screenshotting wait until it gets that notification.
3188. # [20:48] <khuey> jlebar: do you want this notifcation from <img>
3189. # [20:49] <jlebar> khuey: I'm happy getting it for the whole process; that's easiest.
3190. # [20:49] <jlebar> khuey: If I only got it from <img>, I'd have to figure out how to get it for style images and so on.
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3192. # [20:50] <khuey> ok
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3194. # [20:50] <jlebar> khuey: I tried to do this...let me link you to the commit. It did not seem like it would be complicated.
3195. # [20:50] <jlebar> khuey: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/2496a1254d53
3196. # [20:51] <jlebar> khuey: I notified here: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/2496a1254d53#l2.99
3197. # [20:51] <jlebar> khuey: but it seems like I'm notifying too early, and that layout hasn't decided to paint the images by that point.
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3201. # [20:53] * khuey waits for hg.m.o to decide to serve http requests
3202. # [20:53] <jlebar> khuey: I also tried this change, which did not seem to help. https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/378fd3add332
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3208. # [20:55] <philor> gps: are your Windows tests on inbound all crashing for the same needs-clobber-because-the-build-system-is-broken as last night's were?
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3210. # [20:55] <gps> philor: oh, didn't realize I was burning inbound...
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3212. # [20:56] <philor> RyanVM: if you're backing him out, be sure to clobber first...
3213. # [20:56] <khuey> jlebar: so are the missing images style images, <img>s, or something else?
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3215. # [20:56] <khuey> jlebar: or is it everything
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3217. # [20:56] <gps> umm. why did my patch bust inbound?
3218. # [20:56] <RyanVM> philor: Yeah, I was trying to figure out how gps' push managed to break it lik ethat
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3220. # [20:57] <gps> this makes no sense
3221. # [20:57] <Mook_as> WeirdAl: for your XHTML filtering: XSLT?
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3223. # [20:57] <jlebar> khuey: I'm not sure. The one test I've been looking at is 816948-1, which is the <body background="img"> inside an iframe.
3224. # [20:57] <bz> hmm
3225. # [20:57] <bz> python and/or behave like JS?
3226. # [20:57] <jlebar> khuey: But there are other test failures.
3227. # [20:57] <bz> that is, return the LHS or RHS, not booleans?
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3229. # [20:58] <gps> philor, RyanVM: back me out if you must. I don't see that patch caused those failures
3230. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> bz, yeah
3231. # [20:58] <Mook_as> WeirdAl: see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/updateinfo.xsl?force=1 for an example
3232. # [20:58] <jlebar> bz: You can do "foo or bar" as a synonym to "foo ? foo : bar"
3233. # [20:58] <philor> could have been someone before, last night's was confusing too, since dep builds aren't always dep from the same place
3234. # [20:59] <Ms2ger> bz, also, "foo and bar or baz" is/was a common way to write foo ? bar : baz
3235. # [21:00] <jlebar> The new way is "bar if foo else baz", I think.
3236. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Yeah
3237. # [21:00] <jlebar> which I don't like much for sticking the predicate in the middle
3238. # [21:00] <jlebar> but anyway.
3239. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Me neither :)
3240. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Discussion successfully derailed
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3243. # [21:01] <gps> RyanVM, philor: looking at the Windows build log from my push, it picked up other revisions in that build
3244. # [21:01] <WeirdAl> Mook_as: how would I apply that to a XHTML fragment extracted from DOMParser?
3245. # [21:01] <gps> I mean the local builder did a diff that was larger than mine
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3247. # [21:01] <gps> I know this b/c of the moz.build reporting I put in yesterday
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3249. # [21:01] * WeirdAl has a feeling he used to know the answer to that
3250. # [21:01] <gps> I suspect a previous commit required a clobber or something weird and my push triggered it
3251. # [21:02] <gps> 2258 total backend files. 0 created; 13 updated; 2245 unchanged
3252. # [21:02] <Mook_as> WeirdAl: I dunno, but https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_the_Mozilla_JavaScript_interface_to_XSL_Transformations seems like a decent guess
3253. # [21:02] <gps> anyway
3254. # [21:02] <khuey> jlebar: so just adding this notification wait stuff makes us go from test passing to test intermittently failing?
3255. # [21:03] <WeirdAl> ok, thanks
3256. # [21:03] <jlebar> khuey: no, we fail because of hunk 2.31
3257. # [21:03] <khuey> ah
3258. # [21:03] <khuey> and so the rest is an attempt to compensate
3259. # [21:03] <khuey> got it
3260. # [21:04] <jlebar> khuey: right.
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3262. # [21:05] * WeirdAl would prefer to have some filtering deep in expat or htmlparser that says "if this element matches that local name, create an element node"
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3264. # [21:05] <jlebar> khuey: so my original thought was, let's just flip a pref and not do the non-sync decodes on these reftests. But now comes bug 846177, and I need essentially this same "wait for decode" logic in B2G production (non-reftest) for screenshotting.
3265. # [21:05] <khuey> jlebar: so I suspect the problem is this
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3269. # [21:06] <khuey> jlebar: reftest listens for DOMAttrModified to determine when reftest-wait is removed
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3271. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Really?
3272. # [21:06] <khuey> jlebar: that's fired synchronously from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/reftests/bugs/816948-1.html?force=1#9
3273. # [21:06] <khuey> jlebar: but I suspect that http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/reftests/bugs/816948-1.html?force=1#8 does not cause the decoding to start immediately
3274. # [21:07] <khuey> jlebar: so there are probably no pending decodes when you call your function
3275. # [21:07] <jlebar> oh jeez
3276. # [21:07] <khuey> Ms2ger: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/reftest/reftest-content.js#426
3277. # [21:07] * WeirdAl grins: he likes discovering useful features with active tests
3278. # [21:07] <khuey> jlebar: I'm about to go to lunch but I'll ask dbaron for some sage wisdom along the way
3279. # [21:07] <jlebar> khuey: okay, perfect. Thanks a lot.
3280. # [21:07] <WeirdAl> thanks, Mook_as, that looks exactly like what I need
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3288. # [21:09] <Mook_as> WeirdAl: you're welcome. and thank whoever wrote that update code, I just found it one day trying to figure out what elements are allowed :D
3289. # [21:09] <WeirdAl> update code?
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3295. # [21:11] <WeirdAl> oh, right
3296. # [21:11] <sfink> is there any way to grab a "key", or list of load addresses, or something, that would allow me to replay a particular ASLR-enabled run that I have stopped in a debugger?
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3298. # [21:12] <WeirdAl> ohhh, this gets better and better :)
3299. # [21:12] <WeirdAl> (closer to the "why I asked" part, I mean)
3300. # [21:13] <WeirdAl> don't like the sync XHR though...
3301. # [21:13] <WeirdAl> but that's manageable
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3311. # [21:17] <@ted> bsmedberg: what was that intermittent failure on tinderbox that was a hang?
3312. # [21:17] <@ted> in the IPC code
3313. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> ted: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836829
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3315. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> wait, IPC code?
3316. # [21:18] <@bsmedberg> that was breakpad
3317. # [21:18] * @bsmedberg doesn't remember an active IPC one
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3321. # [21:19] <@ted> oh, i just meant it involved OOP
3322. # [21:19] <yzen> Yoric: ping
3323. # [21:20] <Yoric> yzen: pong
3324. # [21:20] <@ted> hum, not sure if that's the same thing
3325. # [21:20] <@ted> bummer
3326. # [21:20] <yzen> Yoric: a quick one, I was wondering if i should make a patch just for adding telemetry to the original backup functionality, so it can sit for a week or more and gather some data to later compare with new implementation ?
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3328. # [21:21] <Yoric> Good iea.
3329. # [21:21] <Yoric> Good idea.
3330. # [21:21] <yzen> Yoric: and if so should I open a separate bug for that ?
3331. # [21:21] <yzen> cool
3332. # [21:21] <Yoric> Yes, please open a bug.
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3334. # [21:22] <yzen> Yoric: alright will do
3335. # [21:22] <lsblakk> bsmedberg: would you (or would you know someone) who could take bug 829557's patch and try to rebase it for beta? RyanVM was unable to land it as-is and I wonder if that is perhaps a simple-ish fix?
3336. # [21:22] <yzen> thanks
3337. # [21:22] <lsblakk> would be great to get it into today's beta for wider testing
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3339. # [21:22] <@bsmedberg> lsblakk: is roc not available?
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3341. # [21:23] * @bsmedberg suspect he will not have time to do that today
3342. # [21:23] <joduinn-mtg> ekr: ping?
3343. # [21:23] <RyanVM> FWIW, the conflict was in nsPluginSafety.h
3344. # [21:23] <ekr> joduinn-mtg: sir?
3345. # [21:23] <RyanVM> I think from what I saw, someone who knows that code can probably make short work of it
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3348. # [21:24] <joduinn-mtg> ekr: hey there, just heard from jesup that you've hit a backlog/delay on tryserver ?
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3350. # [21:24] <lsblakk> bsmedberg: i can ping him, but with timezones he will likely not have time either in the go to build timeframe
3351. # [21:24] <ekr> generally, it seems like the queues are super-long. Like one of my jobs that I submitted yesterday AM at 9 finished early this morning
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3353. # [21:25] <ekr> looking at: http://build.mozilla.org/builds/pending/try.html it seems like today is already worse than yesterday at the same time
3354. # [21:25] <joduinn-mtg> ekr: a) do you have specific info on the exact job? b) is it all OS, or specific to win7+winxp ?
3355. # [21:25] <@ted> RyanVM: are we not out of the woods on the bustage yet?
3356. # [21:25] <ekr> joduinn: it was a number of platforms, but win7/xp were the worst
3357. # [21:26] <@ted> on inbound
3358. # [21:26] <ekr> here is the job: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=95f02e4036d4
3359. # [21:26] <RyanVM> ted: we're thinking it's a needs-clobber issue, but that of course takes time to sort out
3360. # [21:26] <jesup> ekr's fedora32 jobs took 14 hours to start; mac osx 10.6/10.7 took ~10
3361. # [21:26] <@ted> okay
3362. # [21:26] * @ted was going to push but will just wait
3363. # [21:26] <RyanVM> ted: though I'm also seeing linux talos hangs that look scary
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3365. # [21:26] <@ted> bleh
3366. # [21:27] <joduinn-mtg> ekr: helpful. /me reads
3367. # [21:27] <jesup> I still have win7 jobs not started like 17+ hours later
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3369. # [21:27] <RyanVM> nalexander: ping
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3371. # [21:29] <RyanVM> glandium: ping
3372. # [21:29] <gaston> http://feross.org/fill-disk/ that stuff is really funny..
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3374. # [21:29] <gaston> nice usage of localStorage as an attack vector :)
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3381. # [21:31] <froydnj> when you get js errors logged to the console in browser-chrome tests, is there any good way to get a stack trace along with the log?
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3383. # [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bdf1f0890e2f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 64bad42e13b7 and 1e2fc9c3b3c5 (bug 836208) for Windows test failures on a CLOSED TREE.
3384. # [21:31] <ekr> joduinn: about to head into the office. anything more I can answer for now?
3385. # [21:32] <joduinn-mtg> ekr: yesterday was 3rd busiest day of the year in terms of load, and all close to record loads.
3386. # [21:32] <ekr> joduinn-mtg: how is today looking? :)
3387. # [21:32] <cadecairos> is the mozilla PFS2 server only to be used by the plugin checking service? in other words, can I make calls to it from my own app?
3388. # [21:32] * joduinn-mtg suspects some jump in traffic as people come back from MWC, but maybe also other stuff a factor?
3389. # [21:32] <lsblakk> Bas: thanks
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3391. # [21:33] <joduinn-mtg> ekr: having specific changeset info like this really helps
3392. # [21:33] <Bas> lsblakk: np, thanks for poking me.
3393. # [21:33] <philor> joduinn-mtg: first step in "other stuff" is to eliminate the effects of actually having working brach priority now
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3397. # [21:34] <philor> since not only are we not starting try tests when we have beta jobs pending, which we were doing, we're also almost certainly coalescing less because of that
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3402. # [21:37] <nalexander> RyanVM: thanks for backing me out.
3403. # [21:37] <RyanVM> np
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3414. # [21:42] <RyanVM> bholley; I'm getting pretty confident that the talos hangs/crashes are yours
3415. # [21:43] <mbrubeck> gps: freakin' path separators, man
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3418. # [21:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bef7c417aa93 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 5 changesets (bug 790732) for talos-other hangs/crashes on a CLOSED TREE.
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3420. # [21:44] <mbrubeck> err, I guess the path separators was nalexander
3421. # [21:45] <mbrubeck> anyway, os.path.sep is a constant pain on Windows...
3422. # [21:45] <gps> mbrubeck: glandium added a module under mozpack. it's essentially os.path.posixpath with additional methods. it's pretty nice. I need to start using that everywhere
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3424. # [21:46] <mbrubeck> awesome
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3427. # [21:47] <RyanVM> ok, two down, 1 (hopefully) to go
3428. # [21:47] <mbrubeck> ah, this should make bug 840690 nicer
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3431. # [21:48] <jdm> ehsan: ping
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3442. # [21:54] <ehugg> If I were a mozillian where would I put an attachment to a bug that is too big (4MB)?
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3456. # [22:01] <d3f3kt> ping jdm ?
3457. # [22:01] <jdm> d3f3kt: pong
3458. # [22:01] <d3f3kt> jdm-> is an icrementl build for firefox possible too?
3459. # [22:02] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
3460. # [22:02] <khuey> jlebar: ok, I'm back
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3462. # [22:02] <jlebar> khuey: hey.
3463. # [22:02] <khuey> jlebar: so after talking we think its the tests fault
3464. # [22:02] <jlebar> orly
3465. # [22:02] <khuey> jlebar: and that the changes to the reftest harness are reasonable
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3467. # [22:02] <jdm> d3f3kt: yes.
3468. # [22:03] <jdm> d3f3kt: you can use ./mach build some/dir toolkit/library
3469. # [22:03] <noahclone> ehugg: find a solution?
3470. # [22:03] <jlebar> khuey: so we should make this test spin the event loop before removing the attribute?
3471. # [22:03] <khuey> jlebar: well we think you should try moving the reftest-wait removal down into the iframe
3472. # [22:03] <khuey> jlebar: into onPageShow or something
3473. # [22:03] <ehugg> noahclone: Yes, I thought there might be a standard Moz filedump, but I got it attached. Thanks.
3474. # [22:03] <khuey> jlebar: we're just not entirely sure which events actually fire here ;-)
3475. # [22:03] <jlebar> khuey: sure.
3476. # [22:03] <d3f3kt> jdm-> when i use ./mach build toolkit he compiles without errors, but i dont get a new binary :/
3477. # [22:04] <jlebar> khuey: Okay, second question, and feel free to say no.
3478. # [22:04] <khuey> no
3479. # [22:04] <khuey> :-P
3480. # [22:04] <jlebar> khuey: While you were out to lunch, QC decided to give me a large blocker.
3481. # [22:04] <khuey> haha
3482. # [22:04] <jlebar> khuey: Do you want to fix this?
3483. # [22:04] <khuey> jlebar: the blocker or this image thing?
3484. # [22:04] <jdm> d3f3kt: how are you determining this?
3485. # [22:05] <jlebar> khuey: the image thing. :)
3486. # [22:05] <khuey> jlebar: "want" to? no
3487. # [22:05] <jdm> d3f3kt: note that libxul.so will be updated, not the firefox binary
3488. # [22:05] <khuey> jlebar: willing to, probably
3489. # [22:05] <jlebar> khuey: lol
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3491. # [22:05] <khuey> jlebar: can you send me an email summing up where we are and what I need to do?
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3494. # [22:05] <khuey> and I can take it fro mthere?
3495. # [22:05] <jlebar> khuey: Do you mind if I put it in the bug?
3496. # [22:05] <khuey> yeah that's fine
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3498. # [22:06] <jlebar> okay, I'll do that now. If you can't get to it, let me know, because I do want this bug to get fixed one way or another, and after all these months of blockers, I don't feel so bad about taking a brief break.
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3503. # [22:07] <d3f3kt> jdm-> i include the iostream lib and print some strings. i do a full build an see the string. after that i change the content of the strings and do an incremantal build. when i run the bin i dont see the new strings
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3506. # [22:08] <jdm> d3f3kt: what file is the iostream change?
3507. # [22:09] <d3f3kt> jdm-> im still editing the toolkit/system/unixproxy/nsUnixSystemProxySettings.cpp file and in this file i included iostream to give me some output
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3509. # [22:09] <jdm> hmm, curious
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3511. # [22:10] <jdm> d3f3kt: try ./mach build toolkit/system toolkit/library
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3515. # [22:11] <jesup> iostream usually isn't used in mozilla
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3518. # [22:12] <jesup> We have/had code that uses it in debug builds, but not opt/release builds
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3520. # [22:12] <d3f3kt> jesup-> yes i know. i still solving a bug and the couts are only for me that i know which part of my code will be executed ;)
3521. # [22:12] <jesup> fprintf() works :-)
3522. # [22:13] <d3f3kt> jesup-> thanks for your hint, i will try it :) || jdm-> your command are taking a lot of time :D
3523. # [22:14] <jdm> that is a good sign
3524. # [22:14] <jdm> d3f3kt: when in doubt, build toolkit/library
3525. # [22:16] <d3f3kt> the goal for incremental building was that it doesn't take so much time, i definitly need a better pc *g*
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3527. # [22:16] <noahclone> bsmedberg: ping
3528. # [22:16] <@bsmedberg> noahclone: meeting, is it easy? ;-)
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3530. # [22:17] <d3f3kt> jdm-> after 3 minutes it has been finished and the changes are working :)
3531. # [22:17] <noahclone> bsmedberg: lol god I hope so. Had someone asking this question earlier: is the mozilla PFS2 server only to be used by the plugin checking service? in other words, can I make calls to it from my own app?
3532. # [22:17] <noahclone> bsmedberg: my gut tells me the answer is no :P
3533. # [22:17] <@bsmedberg> noahclone: please don't, it's not meant for that
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3535. # [22:18] <noahclone> bsmedberg: oh I wasn't planning to. but someone who was curious asked. thanks for the info.
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3537. # [22:19] <reuben> RyanVM: what should I do with the talos failures here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-B2g18_v1_0_1 ? the server was out of reach so re-triggering fixed it, but I don't know what I should put on the comment
3538. # [22:20] <RyanVM> reuben: you can just say infra if you want
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3540. # [22:20] <jdm> 1.5 minutes to build browser/ :(
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3542. # [22:21] <reuben> RyanVM: cool, thanks!
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3546. # [22:22] <d3f3kt> jdm-> 1.5 for incremental build? which cpu are you using
3547. # [22:24] <jdm> d3f3kt: it's actually my hard drive
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3549. # [22:25] <jdm> it was never good, and it's gotten a lot worse
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3552. # [22:25] <d3f3kt> jdm-> maybe you should upgrade to ssd?
3553. # [22:26] <froydnj> any reason to prefer popupshowing to popupshown in b-c tests?
3554. # [22:26] <@gavin> froydnj: depends entirely on what state you need in the event handler
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3556. # [22:26] <@gavin> one is earlier than the other
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3560. # [22:27] <froydnj> right. one is making my tests work and the other isn't
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3564. # [22:28] <froydnj> gavin: afaict, the event handler only cares that it can invoke the "save link as" context menu item
3565. # [22:30] <froydnj> gavin: and I don't know enough browser-fu to say whether popupshowing is always going to be sufficient for that (it appears to be)
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3588. # [22:36] <jgilbert> Waldo: ping
3589. # [22:36] <@ehsan> jdm: pongish
3590. # [22:36] <Waldo> jgilbert: pong
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3597. # [22:39] <catlee-buildduty> njn: the machines are shared across all branches
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3600. # [22:40] <catlee-buildduty> so if there are a lot of inbound pushes, that takes priority over try
3601. # [22:40] <jgilbert> do we have an ETA on opening inbound?
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3603. # [22:41] <njn> catlee-buildduty: I'm more observing than complaining :)
3604. # [22:41] <Enn> froydnj: popupshowing fires before the popup is laid out and visible, and is used to populate the menu, while popupshown is fired after the popup is shown, and is what you would want to respond to a popup being opened
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3607. # [22:43] <jdm> ehsan: nevermind, I'm going to catch a train
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3610. # [22:46] <RyanVM> jgilbert: when the current osx issue is resolved, we should be good to god
3611. # [22:46] <RyanVM> go*
3612. # [22:46] <RyanVM> win debug looks green
3613. # [22:47] <RyanVM> ehsan: the reftest with carat reftests seem to be failing
3614. # [22:47] <RyanVM> more frequently than they used to
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3624. # [22:50] <bholley> RyanVM: sorry about that, I probably should have done a -t all run somewhere in there :\
3625. # [22:50] <bholley> RyanVM: was that the only bustage?
3626. # [22:51] <RyanVM> bholley: afaict, yes
3627. # [22:51] <bholley> RyanVM: ok, cool. I'll investigate
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3650. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e90c06c27bca - Randell Jesup - Bug 846553: Use non-blocking connect() for SCTP DataChannelConnections, notify disconnects r=mcmanus
3651. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d861cca2103e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 846885 - Prevent double inclusion of qcms and gtkxtbin in build system; r=glandium
3652. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f83e22300249 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e4a14eaefe1d (bug 841413) for mochitest orange.
3653. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/39abe4f67955 - Luke Wagner - Bug 841617 - replace ObjectElements::convertDoubleElements with a 'flags' field (r=bhackett)
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3656. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1653161218b9 - Trevor Saunders - bug 846619 - add some static checking for use of _INHERITED cc class macros r=smaug
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3658. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9c92da2ea3d7 - Josh Matthews - Bug 844561 - Avoid prompting about closing private windows unnecessarily. r=ehsan
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3660. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ec8fb77b41af - Jim Chen - Bug 843048 - Delay setting IME context on Gecko thread instead of Java thread; r=cpeterson
3661. # [23:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/333e89511b31 - Philip Chee - bug 722299 followup: VS2008 bustage fix for Bug 722299 Implement new IDN Unicode display algorithm. r=honza.b
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3668. # [23:02] <gandalf> do we supports XPCOM in Addons on fx mobile?
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3672. # [23:05] <rnewman> gandalf: that sounds like the kind of question that ends up in #mobile
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3676. # [23:05] <rnewman> might wanna start there
3677. # [23:05] <fabrice> gandalf: yes we do
3678. # [23:05] <Pike> gandalf: I'd expect us to, yes
3679. # [23:05] <gandalf> fabrice: ok
3680. # [23:05] <gandalf> so sth like var cookieManager = Cc["@mozilla.org/cookiemanager;1"].getService(Ci.nsICookieManager2);
3681. # [23:05] <gandalf> should just work
3682. # [23:06] <fabrice> yep
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3684. # [23:06] <gandalf> thnx
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3686. # [23:06] <seth> anyone know what "PFS" stands for?
3687. # [23:06] <derf> Perfect Forward Security?
3688. # [23:07] <Pike> plugin finder service
3689. # [23:07] <sfink> Parthenon Food Squad
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3691. # [23:08] <seth> lol.. thanks
3692. # [23:08] <gandalf> I vote for nr. 3
3693. # [23:09] <bz> seth: Pike wins
3694. # [23:09] <bz> seth: insofar as one can when "P" is involved
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3705. # [23:14] <sfink> can I help it if I have a context-free brain?
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3714. # [23:19] <jgilbert> sfink: m(a^n)(y^n)(b^n)e
3715. # [23:20] <seth> that should keep him busy
3716. # [23:20] <sfink> jgilbert++ for a good job with a difficult task
3717. # [23:21] <jgilbert> is HTML context-free?
3718. # [23:21] <jgilbert> We All Know it's not regular
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3720. # [23:22] <jgilbert> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5175840/is-html-a-context-free-language
3721. # [23:22] <jgilbert> excellent
3722. # [23:23] <dougt> hsivonen ^
3723. # [23:23] <dougt> heh
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3729. # [23:24] <seth> jgilbert: questionable answers there
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3731. # [23:25] <jgilbert> seth: yeah, *shrug*
3732. # [23:25] <jgilbert> seth: gotta love questions where the top two answers are "YES" and "NO"
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3735. # [23:26] <seth> jgilbert: hehe yeah. gotta love a consensus
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3739. # [23:27] <seth> lol "War on Orange"
3740. # [23:27] <seth> we need some propaganda posters
3741. # [23:27] <bz> seth: anti-ING I tell you
3742. # [23:28] <jwir3> lol it's like we have a case of identity crisis...
3743. # [23:28] <jwir3> "Firefox orange battles itself with the war on orange"
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3750. # [23:34] <Mook_as> stupid question: did cvs-mirror.m.o die at some point? (I mean, I guess nothing uses it anymore?)
3751. # [23:35] <philor> don't people without a cvs account use it? where by "use it" I mean "fail to be able to actually use it" based on my experience
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3754. # [23:36] <gaston> cvs and dying in the same sentence..
3755. # [23:36] <Mook_as> oh, I just thought I saw something about nspr moving to hg
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3758. # [23:36] <gaston> yeah it's in the plans
3759. # [23:36] <dougt> Mook_as: can I still pull mozilla-central from CVS?
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3761. # [23:37] <gaston> Mook_as: see 844385 & 815169
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3763. # [23:37] <dougt> because… omg nostalgic.
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3766. # [23:39] <Mook_as> gaston: access denied on the first, but thanks :)
3767. # [23:39] <tbsaunde> dougt: last I tried a year or two ago you could atleast grab parts of it
3768. # [23:39] <Mook_as> dougt: no, it'd still be mozilla 1.9.x, I think, pre-import-to-hg
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3770. # [23:40] <Mook_as> (my last pull was a week ago, because I was looking for a random CVS server to use for testing :p )
3771. # [23:40] <mjrosenb> njn: ping?
3772. # [23:40] <mjrosenb> sewardj: ping?
3773. # [23:40] <tbsaunde> Mook_as: in my case that was what I wanted :p
3774. # [23:40] <sewardj> mjrosenb: about to fold, but pong ..
3775. # [23:41] <sewardj> mjrosenb: what's up?
3776. # [23:41] <Mook_as> tbsaunde: yeah, I'm not attempting to actually _use_ a cvs repo for real. just... no.
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3778. # [23:43] <tbsaunde> Mook_as: I was digging through history and decided figuring out just enough cvs was easier than using the web UI
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3781. # [23:44] <mjrosenb> sewardj: I was just looking at: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843733#c23 and wondering
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3783. # [23:44] <mjrosenb> did we *ever* run leak checking on arm builds?
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3785. # [23:44] <mjrosenb> it was only recently that valgrind ran on android
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3787. # [23:44] <mjrosenb> and that requires a pretty special setup
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3789. # [23:46] <sewardj> mjrosenb: I don't know.
3790. # [23:46] <sewardj> mjrosenb: I suspect not though. Might be worth asking bent
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3792. # [23:47] <mjrosenb> bent: ping^
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3798. # [23:48] <mjrosenb> sewardj: thanks.
3799. # [23:49] <bent> sewardj, i'm not familiar with any fennec testing really
3800. # [23:49] <bent> er
3801. # [23:49] <bent> mjrosenb, ^
3802. # [23:49] <bent> i did some memcheck stuff on b2g recently
3803. # [23:49] <bent> but that's it
3804. # [23:49] <sewardj> mjrosenb: vlad has done Fennec on V on anroid, i think
3805. # [23:49] <mjrosenb> bent: but you are familiar with leak checking?
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3807. # [23:49] <bent> in general? yes
3808. # [23:50] <bent> specifically on fennec no
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