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  19. # [00:17] <seth> i really don't like test_bug582412-1.html
  20. # [00:17] <seth> just puttin' that out there
  21. # [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ba321bc503eb - Ms2ger - Merge m-c to inbound.
  22. # [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/80f3b6ae39bb - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 849281 - Use the NdefMessage constructor that is in API 9 instead of the one that is 16+. r=mfinkle
  23. # [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c1de9b068ef2 - Martijn Wargers - Bug 839519 - Add systemXHR permission. r=dclarke
  24. # [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/393f4a108528 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 849009 followup, add missing files from Add-on SDK uplift in 0745394ef7b1, r=KWierso
  25. # [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a61fc19b0b24 - Cameron Kaiser - Bug 849598. Get in-tree Snappy happy on big endian platforms. r=khuey
  26. # [00:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6208d0b66fe - Martijn Wargers - Bug 839519 - Permission.txt documentation fix. r=gwagner
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  32. # [00:26] <philor> hmm, I was going to say I sort of like it, since it's rare to have a top-10 failure that could actually be disabled, but we're actually up to 5 of them
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  36. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cad83c03950 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 849519 - Raise INDEX_SIZE_ERR if media element volume is set to NaN. r=doublec
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  74. # [02:10] <RyanVM> dbaron: tomorrow most likely
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  92. # [02:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e2d12e2be75 - Seth Fowler - Bug 843895 (Part 2) - Add ImageWrapper. r=joe
  93. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f42a8ed7bf2f - Seth Fowler - Bug 843895 (Part 4) - Use FrozenImage instead of ExtractFrame for imgRequestProxy::GetStaticRequest. r=joe
  94. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef39bbfd87e0 - Seth Fowler - Bug 843895 (Part 1) - Add an aWhichFrame parameter to imgIContainer::Draw. r=joe
  95. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b269c239a75 - Seth Fowler - Bug 843895 (Part 3) - Add the FrozenImage wrapper class to stop image animation. r=joe
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  117. # [03:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc45fdc389df - Julian Seward - Bug 779291: Implement SPS stackwalk using the breakpad unwinder. r=bgirard,glandium
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  119. # [03:25] <@roc> woohoo, jseward++
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  126. # [03:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51fbe526dbc9 - Edgar Chen - Bug 848688 - Have a consistent naming for error message. r=allstars.chh
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  140. # [03:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73658fed05eb - Gavin Sharp - bug 818014 followup: replace _all_ null bytes in titles
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  161. # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eccf45749400 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 7f12ca5e6d0a (bug 750303) on suspicion of breaking l10n builds
  162. # [04:09] <darktrojan> I just tried to update my tree (161000 changesets wooo!) and hg says "abort: path contains illegal component: /autoconf/gcc-pr39608.m4"
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  169. # [04:16] <darktrojan> nm, fixed it
  170. # [04:17] <@dolske> whoever made ".m4" illegal in a path was quite wise.
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  172. # [04:19] <Callek> dolske++
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  273. # [06:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3817c9dc83d - Kyle Machulis - Bug 843958 - Fix compiler warning for SCO not handling LM; r=echou
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  279. # [06:48] <philor> dzbarsky: woohoo, you get everyone's favorite, "Error while running startup cache precompilation"!
  280. # [06:49] <dzbarsky> philor: lucky me!
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  282. # [06:49] <philor> it's like a crash, but without all that bothersome stack
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  286. # [06:50] <philor> is that... lackofclobber I smell?
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  288. # [06:52] <philor> and the most fun part of that is that just thinking it freezes you, since if that's it we can either spend 3 hours waiting on a clobbered Windows build, or, we can clobber because the backout won't take without a clobber either, and spend 3 hours waiting on a clobbered Windows build
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  292. # [06:56] <philor> so, for the worst of all possible worlds, clobber, retrigger, reclobber, back out
  293. # [06:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72952b8e3e81 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out d39b5acb8d83 and cf778a07299d (bug 847120) for Windows build bustage
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  745. # [08:21] <dzbarsky> philor|away: ping?
  746. # [08:22] <Callek> dzbarsky: he's almost assuredly asleep
  747. # [08:22] <Callek> dzbarsky: anything I can help with? despite my own tired mind.
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  749. # [08:23] <dzbarsky> Callek: looks like bug 847120 just needed a clobber so I'm going to reland. do I need to do anything other than touching CLOBBER?
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  751. # [08:24] <Callek> dzbarsky: ahh yes you do. Touching clobber is enough to tell teh build system a clobber is needed, but you also have to tell our machines *to* actually clobber. https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/
  752. # [08:25] <Callek> select the branch, then mark the OS's you need to clobber (or the whole tree), seconds before you land
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  759. # [08:27] <dzbarsky> Callek: ok. should I include anything special in the commit message?
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  761. # [08:27] <Callek> dzbarsky: I don't
  762. # [08:27] <Callek> (which is notably a different answer than if you should -- I don't know if you should, but if it was me I wouldn't for the same reason :-) )
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  764. # [08:29] <dzbarsky> Callek: hrm, I clobbered but I'm getting an internal server error now =(
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  766. # [08:29] <dzbarsky> ah, success!
  767. # [08:29] <dzbarsky> let's hope it worked
  768. # [08:29] <Callek> dzbarsky: hrm, internal service error sounds bad to me
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  770. # [08:29] <Callek> nthomas: ^
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  772. # [08:30] <Callek> dzbarsky: not your fault, but just something we (releng) should be aware of :-)
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  774. # [08:30] <Callek> thanks
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  776. # [08:30] <dzbarsky> nthomas: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2208542
  777. # [08:31] <nthomas> treestatus.m.o loads for me, I wonder what request the hg hook is making
  778. # [08:31] <Callek> ahh thought you were talking about clobberer giving the ISE. treestatus is slightly different
  779. # [08:31] <nthomas> oh hey, it's in the pastebin
  780. # [08:31] <nthomas> also wfm
  781. # [08:31] <dzbarsky> nthomas: yeah, it failed a few times and then worked after that
  782. # [08:32] <Callek> anyway, /me heads out
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  796. # [09:16] <nthomas> dzbarsky: filed bug 849748
  797. # [09:17] <nthomas> IT is mopping up lots of issues in phx1 from the outage earlier
  798. # [09:17] <dzbarsky> nthomas: fwiw, I clobbered the rest of the machines and tried to push again - had the same issue. first two attempts fail, third one works
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  849. # [10:14] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: is mozilla::dom::Element.h external-API safe?
  850. # [10:14] <Ms2ger> I'd hope so
  851. # [10:15] <Ms2ger> It should be as safe as nsIContent
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  853. # [10:17] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, mailnews doesn't use nsIContent either, so that's not exactly helpful
  854. # [10:18] <Ms2ger> Heh
  855. # [10:18] <Ms2ger> Does it help if it builds locally?
  856. # [10:18] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: no, since the default build uses a hack to link to the internal API
  857. # [10:19] <Ms2ger> Lovely
  858. # [10:19] <Ms2ger> Is there a way to test if it's safe, then?
  859. # [10:20] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: you can create a build with a couple of mozconfig options, that would work
  860. # [10:22] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: --enable-incomplete-toolkit-ldap-autocomplete and --enable-incomplete-external-linkage should do it
  861. # [10:22] <Ms2ger> Mm
  862. # [10:22] <Ms2ger> How about your tryserver? :)
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  864. # [10:23] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: could do, but don't try building Thunderbird on Windows with those options, because it won't work
  865. # [10:24] <Ms2ger> Wasn't going to :)
  866. # [10:24] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: alternatively, you can do a libxul sdk build, point it at a firefox dist ;-)
  867. # [10:26] <Ms2ger> This all sounds like work ;)
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  870. # [10:28] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: hmm, actually, your patch should apply to an old tree, shouldn't it?
  871. # [10:28] <Ms2ger> Sure
  872. # [10:29] <NeilAway> ok, I have an external API tree handy
  873. # [10:29] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: aaaand it fails to compile
  874. # [10:30] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: Attributes.h includes nsSubstring.h
  875. # [10:31] <Mic> Someone attached a patch without header (user, commit message,...) on BMO. It was r+ed but not checked in because of the missing information.
  876. # [10:31] <Mic> I created a new one that has the info and wonder if I need to do something special to let the one doing checkin know that this is the right one.
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  878. # [10:31] <Ms2ger> Mic, obsolete the old patch
  879. # [10:32] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh wait, nsRegion.h includes nsString.h
  880. # [10:32] <Mic> I lack the necessary rights :(
  881. # [10:32] <Ms2ger> Just comment, then
  882. # [10:32] <Mic> OK, thanks!
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  884. # [10:33] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: also, nsStyleAnimation.h
  885. # [10:33] * NeilAway thinks this is isn't going to work out
  886. # [10:34] <Ms2ger> :(
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  892. # [10:43] <nmatsakis> When I see.... "leaked 336 bytes during test execution"... "This is a harness error."
  893. # [10:43] <nmatsakis> what does "harness error" mean?
  894. # [10:43] <nmatsakis> i.e., if my changes are localized to Spidermonkey, could they possibly be at fault for this?
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  949. # [11:23] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: hi! got a build problem:
  950. # [11:23] <RattyAway> c:\t1\hg\comm-central\mozilla\dom\base\nsGlobalWindow.h(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'nsIBaseWindow.h': No such file or directory
  951. # [11:24] <Ms2ger> Wasn't me!
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  953. # [11:24] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: I know but you sound like you know this stuff pretty well
  954. # [11:25] <Ms2ger> Not this one, I'm afraid
  955. # [11:25] <RattyAway> According to blame http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/eccf45749400/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp#l77
  956. # [11:25] <RattyAway> This bit of code has been around since 2007/2008
  957. # [11:26] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: so how do I find out who removed nsIBaseWindow.h ?
  958. # [11:27] <glandium> RattyAway: it's still there: widget/nsIBaseWindow.idl
  959. # [11:27] <RattyAway> hmm
  960. # [11:27] <RattyAway> so that funky new mozbuild stuff?
  961. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> Shouldn't be
  962. # [11:29] <Ms2ger> On another note
  963. # [11:29] <Ms2ger> What the hell, snow?
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  966. # [11:32] <RattyAway> I think that's some sort of frozen water stuff
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  973. # [11:36] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: "for now"?
  974. # [11:37] <Ms2ger> You're using nsIDOM* interfaces, so, yes, for now
  975. # [11:38] <NeilAway> if the weather forecast that he saw last night is accurate, that somewhat reduces the doubt surrounding Ms2ger's location
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  977. # [11:38] <Ms2ger> He?
  978. # [11:38] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: sorry, that started off as a /me
  979. # [11:39] <Ms2ger> I see
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  981. # [11:40] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: so basically the plan is to make it impossible to access the DOM from C++ that's not linked into libxul?
  982. # [11:41] <peterv> no, the plan is to make the DOM really fast when accessed through JS and to simplify the C++ code
  983. # [11:41] <peterv> that might mean it's not useable from C++ not linked into libxul
  984. # [11:42] <RattyAway> eek
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  1002. # [12:03] <NeilAway> peterv: ta
  1003. # [12:04] <peterv> NeilAway: that doesn't mean that we don't care, it's a matter of priorities
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  1005. # [12:05] <peterv> NeilAway: so if there are changes we can make to fix it then do file bugs for them
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  1111. # [13:32] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: ok so lots of *.h files in my dist/include/ dir are zero length e.g. nsIDOMHTMLScriptElement.h
  1112. # [13:32] <avih_> jmaher|afk: ping
  1113. # [13:32] <Ms2ger> A crash during your build?
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  1115. # [13:34] <RattyAway> I just deleted dist\include\nsIDOMHTMLSelectElement.h and reran $ MOZCONFIG=mozconfig-py pymake -j1 -C ../objdir-sm/mozilla/dom/interfaces/html/
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  1117. # [13:35] <RattyAway> and the new generated file is still 0 bytes.
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  1119. # [13:36] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: aha
  1120. # [13:36] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: does this mean anything to you? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2209037
  1121. # [13:36] <RattyAway> make.py[3]: Entering directory 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dom\bindings'
  1122. # [13:36] <RattyAway> 0 [main] sh 1272 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION
  1123. # [13:36] <RattyAway> 3033 [main] sh 1272 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to sh.exe.stackdump
  1124. # [13:37] <Ms2ger> No, doesn't
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  1144. # [13:50] <NeilAway> interesting CSS error for color: #8e
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  1204. # [14:27] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: so I backed out your recent changes @ http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startdate=2013-03-10+00%3A00&enddate=2013-03-10+13%3A00
  1205. # [14:27] <RattyAway> and now I don't have any zero length *.h files in dist/include/
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  1207. # [14:28] <Ms2ger> Fascinating
  1208. # [14:28] <Ms2ger> It seems to work fine everywhere else
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  1212. # [14:32] <no_gravity> Hello! It looks like Firefox draws a white border around form elements by default. Is that intentional?
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  1215. # [14:33] <@smaug> no_gravity: which elements?
  1216. # [14:33] <@smaug> <form>?
  1217. # [14:34] <@smaug> or perhaps input
  1218. # [14:34] <no_gravity> smaug: input
  1219. # [14:34] <no_gravity> smaug: example: http://raw.gibney.org/form_elements_on_a_dark_background
  1220. # [14:35] <no_gravity> smaug: looks weird here in ff 19.
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  1230. # [14:38] <@smaug> no_gravity: is that regression?
  1231. # [14:39] <@smaug> and yes, I think it looks a bit odd
  1232. # [14:39] <@smaug> file a bug?
  1233. # [14:39] <no_gravity> smaug: i dont know. i never noticed it.
  1234. # [14:40] <no_gravity> smaug: looks like some double border. one black and one white.
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  1236. # [14:40] <@smaug> no_gravity: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/forms.css?mark=55-55#49 ?
  1237. # [14:41] <no_gravity> smaug: interesting
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  1239. # [14:42] <no_gravity> smaug: is there a way to check since when that is in?
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  1249. # [14:44] <@smaug> no_gravity: there is the hg blame link in that page
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  1251. # [14:45] <@smaug> no_gravity: and since that code is old, you may need to look at cvs blame, using http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/
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  1253. # [14:46] <@smaug> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/layout/style/forms.css&rev=3.151&mark=90#89
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  1259. # [14:47] <no_gravity> smaug: hmm.. there is no link next to line 90.
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  1261. # [14:47] <no_gravity> smaug: anyway.. doing a "border: 1px solid #000" gives the expected result so im gonna use that in my websites.
  1262. # [14:49] <no_gravity> smaug: strange, browsershots does NOT show me what i see: http://browsershots.org/http://raw.gibney.org/form_elements_on_a_dark_background
  1263. # [14:49] <no_gravity> smaug: i see something much more fucked up. With rounded corners.
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  1268. # [14:52] <NeilAway> khuey--
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  1275. # [14:58] <NeilAway> eek, too many tabs - 30s GC :s
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  1277. # [15:01] <glandium> NeilAway: how many tabs?
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  1292. # [15:10] <ted> bsmedberg: ping
  1293. # [15:10] <bsmedberg> ted: pong
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  1295. # [15:11] <ted> bsmedberg: do you think anyone cares about having xulrunner nightly build symbols on the symbol server?
  1296. # [15:11] <bsmedberg> ted: hrm, I don't know... I wouldn't expect it to be that important
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  1298. # [15:11] <bsmedberg> ted: are we trading on symbol disk space again?
  1299. # [15:11] <ted> yeah, just poking around and curious if i could have releng turn those off
  1300. # [15:11] <bsmedberg> we could just ship the XR nightlies with symbols
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  1302. # [15:11] <NeilAway> glandium: just opened 40
  1303. # [15:12] <ted> i'm removing old XR release symbols from the symbol server
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  1305. # [15:12] <ted> since we don't actually support our XR release builds anyway except as an SDK
  1306. # [15:12] <glandium> ted: you mean dwarfs and pdbs?
  1307. # [15:12] <glandium> or breakpad cfi ?
  1308. # [15:12] <ted> all of it
  1309. # [15:13] <glandium> ted: if soccorro is not collecting and treating xulrunner crashes, the breakpad cfi are useless
  1310. # [15:13] <ted> right
  1311. # [15:13] <ted> it's just a pain to clean up one and not the other atm
  1312. # [15:13] <ted> and i can't say i care all that much about people's ability to use the symbol server for debugging our XR releases
  1313. # [15:14] <glandium> ted: and i doubt there's much use of the symbol files for xulrunner nightlies. if people need to debug xulrunner, they can probably do the same in firefox with the -app option
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  1315. # [15:14] <ted> but i'm ok with leaving the current release in
  1316. # [15:14] <ted> yeah
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  1324. # [15:15] <glandium> which, now we have separated browser/, is even less different from xulrunner than before
  1325. # [15:15] <ted> heh
  1326. # [15:15] <ted> oh, neat
  1327. # [15:15] <ted> that's a nice side-effect of that, isn't it
  1328. # [15:16] <ted> we basically moved to shipping xulrunner+two apps on top of it :)
  1329. # [15:16] <glandium> ted: that's almost what ff is nowadays
  1330. # [15:16] <glandium> 3 apps if you count webapprt
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  1335. # [15:22] <mbrubeck> and Metro!
  1336. # [15:23] <mbrubeck> unless "two apps" was desktop+metro
  1337. # [15:23] <mbrubeck> (I was thinking Firefox + Fennec)
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  1339. # [15:24] <decoder> how do I run jsreftest locally?
  1340. # [15:24] <decoder> make -C objdir jstestbrowser fails
  1341. # [15:27] <ted> mbrubeck: yeah, desktop+metro
  1342. # [15:27] <froydnj> spectre++
  1343. # [15:27] <ted> and as glandium points out, +webabbrt
  1344. # [15:27] <ted> mbrubeck: i mean "xr+apps shipping in the same package"
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  1346. # [15:29] <ted> decoder: looks like you have to have run "make package-tests" in the objdir first
  1347. # [15:29] <ted> i vaguely recall that changing but i can't recall why
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  1350. # [15:33] <khuey> not gonna lie
  1351. # [15:33] <decoder> ted: thanks
  1352. # [15:33] <khuey> all these "firefox fixed the memory leak and now chrome sucks so I'm switching back" articles make me feel pretty good
  1353. # [15:33] <decoder> ted: maybe the test targets should do this
  1354. # [15:33] <decoder> and not just die with a rando merror
  1355. # [15:33] <decoder> *random
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  1360. # [15:35] <Ms2ger> khuey, so good you feel like doing reviews? ;)
  1361. # [15:36] <ted> decoder: yeah, they're pretty stupid right now
  1362. # [15:36] <ted> decoder: we should be moving them all to mach commands which are easier to make smarter
  1363. # [15:36] <ted> khuey: agreed
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  1365. # [15:36] <Ms2ger> ted, because the js guys killed the manifest files
  1366. # [15:36] <ted> Ms2ger: ah, yeah
  1367. # [15:36] <ted> annoying
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  1369. # [15:37] <Ms2ger> Well, keeping them up to date was annoying too :)
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  1375. # [15:38] <decoder> tar: e4x: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
  1376. # [15:38] <decoder> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
  1377. # [15:38] <decoder> uh hu
  1378. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> Good riddance :)
  1379. # [15:39] <khuey> LOL
  1380. # [15:39] <khuey> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5355800
  1381. # [15:40] <RyanVM> khuey: hah
  1382. # [15:41] <JosiahOne_> khuey: I didn't know 600 MB was that bad. ;)
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  1384. # [15:41] <JosiahOne_> We should get the Photoshop team if they are doing better.
  1385. # [15:41] <RyanVM> JosiahOne_: how'd you enjoy your first foray into Mozillazine? :)
  1386. # [15:42] <decoder> ted: hm. i keep getting this:
  1387. # [15:42] <decoder> REFTEST TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | | EXCEPTION: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIChannel.open]" nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://reftest/content/reftest.js :: ReadManifest :: line 684" data: no]
  1388. # [15:42] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: Would have been better if it was under better circumstances. :)
  1389. # [15:42] <decoder> and no tests run
  1390. # [15:42] <RyanVM> JosiahOne_: heh :)
  1391. # [15:42] <RyanVM> well, you'll certainly get unfiltered feedback there
  1392. # [15:42] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: Oh, that was more filtered than someone on Bugzilla.
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  1394. # [15:43] <Ms2ger> decoder, sounds like you still don't have a manifest
  1395. # [15:43] * JosiahOne_ Knocked that guy down though.
  1396. # [15:43] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne_, hey, that's not a nice thing to do
  1397. # [15:43] <JosiahOne_> Ms2ger: :) You know what I mean.
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  1399. # [15:44] <RyanVM> (fwiw, that color did look pretty awful IMO :) )
  1400. # [15:44] <decoder> Ms2ger: how can I check that?
  1401. # [15:44] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: Well, I have to agree really. I liked it on TB, but only sometimes. The entire color would need to be redone, and on Firefox I agree.
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  1403. # [15:45] <Ms2ger> decoder, what's your command line?
  1404. # [15:45] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: The rest of the UI is still using the dark blue on TB, so it looked kind of out of place.
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  1407. # [15:46] <RyanVM> oh well, live and learn
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  1410. # [15:47] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: Yeah, it was a good experience I guess.
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  1412. # [15:47] <decoder> Ms2ger: im just running make jstestbrowser
  1413. # [15:47] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: That's what Nightly is for anyway.
  1414. # [15:47] <ted> decoder: sorry, don't know much about jsreftests, ask bc
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  1421. # [15:49] <josh> Did we change something about the way mochitests are supposed to be invoked recently?
  1422. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> How so?
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  1424. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> In a way, yes; you're supposed to use mach now ;)
  1425. # [15:49] <josh> I used to run "make -C obdir/... mochitest-plain" and that doesn't work any more
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  1427. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> Should work
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  1429. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> Well, I dunno what the ... are for
  1430. # [15:50] <josh> I was just indicating a path to a subset of mochitests
  1431. # [15:51] * NeilAway didn't think that had worked for some time
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  1433. # [15:51] <josh> e.g. make -C obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.2.0/dom/plugins/test/ mochitest-plain
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  1440. # [15:51] <hsivonen> where do we keep the expected assertion counts for chrome mochitests?
  1441. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> In the test itself, I believe
  1442. # [15:52] <josh> NeilAway: What are we supposed to do instead?
  1443. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> TEST_PATH
  1444. # [15:52] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: ooh. thanks
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  1446. # [15:52] <hsivonen> I somehow missed that
  1447. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> Or ./mach mochitest-plain foo/bar
  1448. # [15:52] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1450. # [15:53] <josh> Ms2ger, NeilAway: Got it working, thanks
  1451. # [15:53] <Ms2ger> Yw
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  1456. # [15:57] <NeilAway> josh: I think make check was the last test for which that worked
  1457. # [15:58] <josh> I feel like was using that invocation at least 2-3 months ago, maybe my memory is just failing me
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  1461. # [15:59] <Mavericks> mbrubeck: regarding yday's error , just disabled webrtc, it built fine ;)
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  1480. # [16:10] <avih_> bsmedberg: ping
  1481. # [16:10] <bsmedberg> avih_: pong
  1482. # [16:10] <avih_> bsmedberg: you maintain the status board, right?
  1483. # [16:11] <bsmedberg> yes
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  1489. # [16:12] <avih_> it would be useful to have a preview button. The markdown doesn't always work, and regardless, preview is nice :). Also, Bug xyz should probably work as well (right now only lower case |bug XYZ| works.
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  1491. # [16:12] <bsmedberg> I thought I fixed that...
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  1495. # [16:13] <till> Thanks, khuey for letting me waste ten minutes and quite a bit of good mood on HN
  1496. # [16:13] <avih_> bsmedberg: oh, you might have, and i might got programmed to never try the upper case again :), it does send an email on every correction, so making those minimal is important ;)
  1497. # [16:13] <bsmedberg> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bsmedberg_mozilla.com/weekly-updates/rev/4ca7bd8e545c
  1498. # [16:13] <bsmedberg> 2012-01-31 ?
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  1500. # [16:14] <avih_> bsmedberg: hmm.. 6 weeks, yeah, that's possible i haven't tried it since...
  1501. # [16:14] <bsmedberg> no, that's 58 weeks
  1502. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> till, should know better ;)
  1503. # [16:14] <avih_> oh, then i think it didn't work more recently than that...
  1504. # [16:14] <bsmedberg> avih_: I'd love for somebody to implement a preview feature, but I'm not sure that should be me
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  1506. # [16:15] <bsmedberg> oh wait
  1507. # [16:15] <till> Ms2ger: agreed. Unfortunately, I'm fallible. Very much so.
  1508. # [16:15] <bsmedberg> avih_: it looks like I added re.I to the wrong regex there
  1509. # [16:15] * Ms2ger hugs till
  1510. # [16:15] <avih_> :)
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  1512. # [16:15] <till> awww :)
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  1516. # [16:16] * JosiahOne_ Is curious why he has a "_" at the end of his name
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  1518. # [16:17] <bsmedberg> avih: ok, that should be live
  1519. # [16:17] <avih> cool :)
  1520. # [16:17] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: did you null-check first?
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  1522. # [16:18] * Ms2ger null-checks NeilAway, fails
  1523. # [16:18] <avih> bsmedberg: maybe also auto-email anyone which still uses the lower case style at the beginning of a sentence that they can now properly capitalize it ;)
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  1525. # [16:18] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: I'll rename myself to GetNeilAway(), would that be clearer? ;-)
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  1528. # [16:19] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, you're always away, so GetNeilAway() { return nullptr; } ?
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  1530. # [16:19] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: GetNeil() in that case?
  1531. # [16:19] <Ms2ger> Mm
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  1534. # [16:19] <avih> bsmedberg: also if you give me a url of a page which can display the rendered output (or provide the rendered html via ajax), i might be able to incorporate it client-side only into the status board
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  1537. # [16:20] <bsmedberg> avih: I'm not sure I understand the question, but all the sources for that app are there in my user repo
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  1540. # [16:22] <nmatsakis> decoder: ping
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  1542. # [16:22] <avih> bsmedberg: i'm guessing that's python, but unfortunately i'm not fluent at all in that. but if you could provide some ajax API with 3 fields: done/next/coord which returns an ajax reply with the rendered html code, i'll probably be able to help with working out the client side of it.
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  1544. # [16:23] <decoder> nmatsakis: pong
  1545. # [16:23] <nmatsakis> decoder: Regarding bug 847387, is there...further action required on my part? Also, maybe I'll try to get someone else from the JS team to look over and decide if there is indeed a security risk, since luke hasn't answered :)
  1546. # [16:23] <avih> bsmedberg: brb
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  1550. # [16:24] <decoder> nmatsakis: yes, you should either rule out it's a security issue, or prepare patches for aurora/beta/esr17, get approval for them to land, then land them
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  1554. # [16:25] <RyanVM> jdm: ping
  1555. # [16:25] <jdm> RyanVM: pong
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  1558. # [16:25] <RyanVM> jdm: can you take a look at bug 848943 or recommend an owner for it please?
  1559. # [16:25] <nmatsakis> decoder: ok, thanks.
  1560. # [16:26] <jdm> yep
  1561. # [16:26] <RyanVM> it's in the top #10 for orangefactor and only started in the last 4 days
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  1563. # [16:26] <RyanVM> jdm: thanks :)
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  1577. # [16:37] <RyanVM> wow, thanks wikimo rich editor for destroying what I was working on
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  1579. # [16:37] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a rich editor
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  1593. # [16:48] <tbsaunde> so, if I have a crahreporter-symbols-full.zip how do I get gdb to load symbols from it?
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  1596. # [16:49] <tbsaunde> glandium: ^?
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  1598. # [16:49] <jdm> RyanVM: ooc, why'd you originally CC me for the browser_contextmenu.js orange? I have changed one line in it since it was originally written by MattN
  1599. # [16:50] <RyanVM> jdm: for some reason I had it in my head that you were familiar with that area
  1600. # [16:50] <RyanVM> sorry
  1601. # [16:50] <khuey> HE ADMITS HIS GUILT
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  1605. # [16:50] <RyanVM> hah
  1606. # [16:50] <glandium> tbsaunde: there are libfoo.so/checksum/libfoo.so.bz2 files in there. Unpack/uncompress them, and name them libfoo.so.dbg next to libfoo.so
  1607. # [16:50] <RyanVM> you touch it, you own it :D
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  1610. # [16:51] <tbsaunde> glandium: thanks
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  1625. # [16:59] <avih> bsmedberg: back, sorry. so, will you be able to provide such ajax API at the server?
  1626. # [16:59] <bsmedberg> avih: maybe, but probably not today
  1627. # [17:00] <avih> bsmedberg: cool. it has waited long enough, it could wait a bit more ;) will you ping me if you get to it?
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  1779. # [18:13] <decoder> RyanVM: what did you want me to include in the comment for future automated bug changes?
  1780. # [18:14] <decoder> i got a small bunch again
  1781. # [18:14] <RyanVM> decoder: whatever you like
  1782. # [18:14] <RyanVM> just something to filter on
  1783. # [18:14] <decoder> [auto-change] Blahblah?
  1784. # [18:14] <RyanVM> "Filter on blahblahblah"
  1785. # [18:14] <RyanVM> just in the body of the message
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  1787. # [18:15] <decoder> RyanVM: so something like "Filter on qa-project-auto-change:\n\nactual comment here"
  1788. # [18:15] <decoder> will work?
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  1790. # [18:15] <RyanVM> sure
  1791. # [18:15] <decoder> ok then ill choose that
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  1793. # [18:16] <Optimizer> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Contribute/Conversion_points gives the conversion information, but how to convert these things into badges, and how to get those badges ?
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  1817. # [18:29] <philor> ahh, nothing improves a Monday like having the bug 338621 people stirred up again
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  1821. # [18:33] <Optimizer> people used to make websites in xml !!
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  1827. # [18:36] <BenWa> ted: I've got the dual linking working for libxul-unit. Now I'm looking into having a way to specify the browser app to load the alternative libxul. We can patch nsXPCOMGlue or change dependentlibs.list which is sucky. Thoughts?
  1828. # [18:36] <ted> BenWa: i would ask glandium
  1829. # [18:36] <BenWa> glandium: ^^?
  1830. # [18:37] <glandium> BenWa: changing dependentlibs.list is not going to work, libxpcom still depends on libxul
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  1833. # [18:38] <billm> dholbert: ping
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  1835. # [18:38] <dholbert> billm, pong
  1836. # [18:39] <billm> dholbert: do you have some time today for some questions about reftests?
  1837. # [18:39] <dholbert> billm, sure
  1838. # [18:39] <BenWa> glandium: I am correct to think that this is the only spot I have to fix? (dlopen xul) http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2209555
  1839. # [18:40] <billm> dholbert: ok, thanks. let me know when is good and I'll walk over.
  1840. # [18:40] <glandium> BenWa: no, that won't be enough. libxpcom and xpcom components link against libxul
  1841. # [18:40] <dholbert> billm, now is fine if you're around. or after the monday meeting(s) works too
  1842. # [18:40] <billm> dholbert: ok, cool
  1843. # [18:40] <BenWa> They link against libxul? I haven't seen that
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  1873. # [18:58] <BenWa> glandium: Alright I can't find how xpcom links against libxul. It's not in xpcom/moz.build. Renaming the XUL-UNIT works but its not ideal
  1874. # [18:59] <BenWa> Creating two dist directory would be an option I suppose =\
  1875. # [18:59] <glandium> bsmedberg: there is a bug to remove libxpcom
  1876. # [18:59] <glandium> BenWa: considering all tests will also be linking against libxul...
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  1881. # [19:00] <glandium> bsmedberg: xul.dll is another beast... it can't be removed unless we drop support for binary components and unless plugin-container dies
  1882. # [19:00] <bsmedberg> yeah, I know
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  1885. # [19:01] <bsmedberg> xpcom.dll just seems like such stupid low-hanging fruit now that we don't have the same binary-compat constraints
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  1887. # [19:01] <JosiahOne> What happened to: mobile/xul/chrome/content/browser.js ?
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  1889. # [19:02] <fabrice> JosiahOne: mobile/xul has been removed
  1890. # [19:02] <khuey> how would you remove xul.dll?
  1891. # [19:02] <JosiahOne> fabrice: Removed or replaced?
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  1895. # [19:02] <JosiahOne> Or merged I guess.
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  1898. # [19:02] <glandium> khuey: rm xul.dll
  1899. # [19:02] <fabrice> JosiahOne: removed from the tree
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  1901. # [19:03] <JosiahOne> fabrice: So another file doesn't take it's place then?
  1902. # [19:03] * stefanh|away is now known as stefanh
  1903. # [19:03] <fabrice> JosiahOne: no, the full directory is gone
  1904. # [19:03] <BenWa> JosiahOne: No, its totally gone. We don't support xul mobile anymore
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  1906. # [19:04] <JosiahOne> BenWa: Alright, that works out great then.
  1907. # [19:04] <JosiahOne> fabrice: Thanks!
  1908. # [19:04] <@bz> hmm
  1909. # [19:05] <@bz> is monday meeting happening?
  1910. # [19:05] <khuey> glandium: and what would you replace it with?
  1911. # [19:05] <BenWa> glandium: Are we going with the option of creating another dist-unit or something similar?
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  1913. # [19:05] <@bz> ah, here we go
  1914. # [19:05] <glandium> khuey: nothing, that would solve plenty of problems :)
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  1916. # [19:05] <khuey> haha
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  1925. # [19:09] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: do you feel qualified to review the xpidl-enum patch?
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  1929. # [19:11] <philor> jdm: but you probably don't need to know anything about browser_contextmenu.js for that bug, since the problem is that it does var tab = gBrowser.addTab("data:text/plain,test%20search"); gBrowser.selectedTab = tab; and then the selected tab is one opened by browser_plainTextLinks.js long ago
  1930. # [19:12] <jdm> that boggles the mind
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  1934. # [19:13] <ted> jdm: wonder if data: URLs break some tab-reusing logic
  1935. # [19:13] <jdm> I didn't even know we hvae tab-reusing logic
  1936. # [19:14] <ted> i am totally guessing here
  1937. # [19:14] <BenWa> glandium: Alright I really don't know how to procede now. I was hoping I could just conditionally dlopen xul or xul-unit but since that's not true I don't know how to fix it
  1938. # [19:14] <jhammel> i wish we had more and that it was more customizable
  1939. # [19:14] <gavin> we don't have that kind of tab-reusing logic
  1940. # [19:14] <gavin> what bug are you guys talking about?
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  1942. # [19:14] <jhammel> e.g. opening a link from an external process always makes new tabs
  1943. # [19:15] <ted> hm
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  1945. # [19:15] <philor> gavin: bug 848943
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  1947. # [19:16] <ted> ok yeah, i have no idea
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  1965. # [19:24] <gavin> what does "WARNING - This is a harness error." mean?
  1966. # [19:24] <Jesse> smontagu: why are so many of these dir=auto bugs causing use-after-free? (as opposed to asserting, deferencing null, or something else relateively safe)
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  1971. # [19:25] <smontagu> Jesse: if I knew the answer to that I would stop it happening :(
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  1973. # [19:25] <philor> gavin: roughly, it means "this is not a harness error"
  1974. # [19:25] <smontagu> I have been looking for assertions to add
  1975. # [19:25] <RyanVM> philor++
  1976. # [19:26] <gavin> philor: makes sense
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  1978. # [19:27] <philor> gavin: literally, it means "this log line matched http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/mozharness/mozharness/mozilla/testing/errors.py#48"
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  1981. # [19:28] <philor> so right now, "This is a harness error" == "The line above this includes the text TEST-UNEXPECTED"
  1982. # [19:28] <aki> we can take that out if you want. i'm not entirely sure what it's for eitehr
  1983. # [19:28] <aki> either
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  1987. # [19:29] <philor> personally, I very much want, because it's way too easy to read that as "this is a buildbot error" or "this is a mochitest/reftest harness error" instead of "this is a test error"
  1988. # [19:29] <aki> ok
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  1992. # [19:31] <gavin> we're using CLOBBER too often now
  1993. # [19:31] <@bz_nossl> yeah
  1994. # [19:31] <@bz_nossl> we sure are
  1995. # [19:31] <@bz_nossl> It's insane
  1996. # [19:31] <gavin> I liked the days when my build would mysteriously fail once a month more than the days when I need to clobber every time I pull :)
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  1998. # [19:31] <@bz_nossl> And in between every step of a bisect
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  2001. # [19:32] <philor> it'd probably help if changing an xpt didn't require a clobber
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  2003. # [19:32] <nrc> gavin++
  2004. # [19:32] <decoder> i know there is DONTBUILD for preventing a build when pushing to inbound, but is there also something to prevent tests?
  2005. # [19:33] <philor> nope
  2006. # [19:33] <philor> no BUILD_BUT_DON'T_TEST_IT
  2007. # [19:33] <decoder> :(
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  2009. # [19:33] <philor> other than PUSH_RIGHT_BEFORE_SOMEONE_ELSE_IS_ABOUT_TO :)
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  2011. # [19:33] <froydnj> vote that we call such a feature I_LIKE_TO_LIVE_DANGEROUSLY
  2012. # [19:34] <@smaug> clobber again o_O
  2013. # [19:34] <decoder> heh
  2014. # [19:34] <decoder> im actually adding some jit-tests only
  2015. # [19:34] <decoder> which get run during the build
  2016. # [19:34] <decoder> running the tests afterwards is a waste of time
  2017. # [19:34] <aki> philor: r? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2209683
  2018. # [19:34] <BenWa> Reviews should enforce touching clobber!
  2019. # [19:34] <decoder> since i dont touch the code
  2020. # [19:34] <@smaug> could we stop doing clobber builds all the time
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  2024. # [19:35] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, ping?
  2025. # [19:35] <BenWa> Also by default touching the clobber should be r- and instead should require the person to add a build dependency
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  2027. # [19:35] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: pong
  2028. # [19:35] <@smaug> ++BenWa
  2029. # [19:35] <Jesse> requiring innocent developers to fix the build system? :(
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  2031. # [19:35] <philor> aki: r+yay=me, are the added blank lines PEP8?
  2032. # [19:35] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, so I did a try push asking for robocop tests and it appears to have ignored me... Any way to trigger them without submitting another build? And any idea why they didn't run? (https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2759f27a0dec)
  2033. # [19:36] <aki> philor: yup
  2034. # [19:36] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: probably got burned by robocop splitting into two parts
  2035. # [19:36] <BenWa> Jesse: I've been touching the build system. It's sucky but it needs to be done
  2036. # [19:36] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: Trychooser is updated now
  2037. # [19:36] <philor> I wondered whether robocop would get robocop-1 and robocop-2
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  2041. # [19:36] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, ah, damnit... Guess I need to update my trychooser extension then - any way to trigger without a rebuild?
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  2043. # [19:37] <philor> we must have some magic for reftests, where I think that does work
  2044. # [19:37] <@smaug> Jesse: requiring developers to not cause others to spend ages for rebuilding
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  2046. # [19:37] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: not that I know of
  2047. # [19:37] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, ok, n/m - thanks
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  2049. # [19:38] <BenWa> to be fair I wait until lunch/EOD to pull & clobber so it never bothers me
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  2066. # [19:48] <nmatsakis> is there a wiki page somewhere explaining how to prepare backported patches?
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  2071. # [19:49] <dholbert> nmatsakis, I'm not sure, but I can tell you what I do
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  2073. # [19:49] <nmatsakis> ok.
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  2075. # [19:49] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, out of interest, why were the robocop tests split? There are hardly any, seems odd...
  2076. # [19:50] <Cwiiis> and shame 'robocop' wasn't aliased to 'robocop-1,robocop-2' to avoid this :(
  2077. # [19:50] <nmatsakis> dholbert: I am also confused by the plethora of bugzilla tracking flags and what I am supposed to do with them...
  2078. # [19:50] <RyanVM> jmaher ^
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  2081. # [19:50] <dholbert> nmatsakis, http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2209710
  2082. # [19:50] <philor> they may be few, but they're slow as hell
  2083. # [19:51] <jmaher> Cwiiis: we split robocop because the jobs were taking too long
  2084. # [19:51] <dholbert> nmatsakis, that's how I prepare/apply the backport patch
  2085. # [19:51] <dholbert> nmatsakis, RE flag tracking:
  2086. # [19:51] <decoder> nmatsakis: you also need to request approval in the bug I think
  2087. # [19:51] <dholbert> nmatsakis, generally, you just request "approval-mozilla-aurora/beta" (as appropriate) on the patches you want to backport
  2088. # [19:51] <nmatsakis> dholbert: /path/to/aurora is presumably a clone of some separate mercurial URL?
  2089. # [19:51] <decoder> if it's a security bug, it also needs sec approval, but i dont know if it needs reapproval for the branches
  2090. # [19:51] <dholbert> nmatsakis, yeah
  2091. # [19:51] <dholbert> clone of mozilla-aurora
  2092. # [19:51] <decoder> dveditz knows that
  2093. # [19:51] <nmatsakis> and I guess there is a separate URL for each version of FF?
  2094. # [19:52] <dholbert> nmatsakis, yup
  2095. # [19:52] <Cwiiis> jmaher, ok, that's cool - but no alias?
  2096. # [19:52] <jmaher> Cwiiis: we also have more tests coming online which would only make the job even longer
  2097. # [19:52] <jmaher> Cwiiis: I don't understand the alias part
  2098. # [19:52] * nmatsakis looks forward to `hg clone`ing all of these URLs
  2099. # [19:52] <dholbert> nmatsakis, if you're cloning aurora / beta for the first time, you can have a smoother experience with a bundle
  2100. # [19:52] <dholbert> nmatsakis, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial#Bundles
  2101. # [19:52] <nmatsakis> a bundle?
  2102. # [19:52] <Cwiiis> jmaher, well I submitted a job with -u robocop - that's just a wasted job now because I didn't realise about the split and try just accepts it
  2103. # [19:52] <nmatsakis> ok ;)
  2104. # [19:53] <Cwiiis> jmaher, might be good to alias 'robocop' to 'robocop-1,robocop-2' to avoid that?
  2105. # [19:53] <jmaher> Cwiiis: oh, I am not sure how that part of the puzzle works
  2106. # [19:53] <Cwiiis> ok :)
  2107. # [19:53] <jmaher> we would need to fix up the trychooser I believe
  2108. # [19:53] <nmatsakis> dholbert decoder : once the patch is prepared, I presumably upload it to the bug and flag it for security approval?
  2109. # [19:53] <dholbert> nmatsakis, it lets you work around the fact that "hg clone" isn't resumable, by just giving you a file you can download instead
  2110. # [19:53] <nmatsakis> yes, I see
  2111. # [19:53] <dholbert> nmatsakis, is this a security bug?
  2112. # [19:53] <nmatsakis> yes
  2113. # [19:53] <dholbert> nmatsakis, so sec-approval is for *before* your bug lands on trunk
  2114. # [19:54] <nmatsakis> yes, I know, though I already flubbed that part of the procedure. :)
  2115. # [19:54] <dholbert> ok :) so if you've now landed on trunk, sec-approval doesn't matter anymore
  2116. # [19:54] <dholbert> now you need approval-mozilla-[whatever]
  2117. # [19:54] <dholbert> for the branches that you want to land on
  2118. # [19:54] <bsmedberg> *dammit* I can't get bug#s right in commits :-(
  2119. # [19:54] <dholbert> nmatsakis, you can just request that on the patch(es) that are already on the bug
  2120. # [19:54] <nmatsakis> ok.
  2121. # [19:55] <dholbert> nmatsakis, (on the assumption that your backport patch will look like those patches)
  2122. # [19:55] <nmatsakis> right
  2123. # [19:55] <dholbert> nmatsakis, if it's a significantly-different patch, then you'd want to post the backport patch and request approval on that, like you said
  2124. # [19:55] <nmatsakis> ok. I expect the patch will apply cleanly.
  2125. # [19:55] <nmatsakis> this is old code.
  2126. # [19:55] <dholbert> cool
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  2136. # [20:00] <decoder> nmatsakis: and you need to fill out the forms in the comment =)
  2137. # [20:01] <nmatsakis> Yes, I just realized that I didn't do that. I got distracted in the middle. Argh.
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  2140. # [20:05] <decoder> hehehe
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  2144. # [20:08] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: it's okay, I've messed up reviewers in bug commits before
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  2149. # [20:11] <@dveditz> nmatsakis: security bugs don’t need security-approval for the branches if they already have it. We take branch impact into account when granting sec-approval+
  2150. # [20:12] <nmatsakis> ok.
  2151. # [20:12] <nmatsakis> I think I understand the procedure now, hopefully the next security bug I have to deal with will go a bit smoother
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  2154. # [20:12] <RyanVM> ugh, this clicking sound is giving me a headache
  2155. # [20:12] <@dveditz> nmatsakis: for instance, if we need it on all branches we might tell people NOT to land on m-c in the last week of a cycle (where we wouldn’t have time to get into beta)
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  2157. # [20:12] <nmatsakis> I see
  2158. # [20:13] <@dveditz> need branch-landing approvals on patches from release-drivers, we figure that’s enough red tape for the branches
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  2166. # [20:19] <nmatsakis> dveditz: so, after consulting with shu, I think I'm ready to declare the bug as non-security-critical (and thus it doesn't need to be backported). In that case, should I just clear the various approval? bits on the patch?
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  2170. # [20:21] <RyanVM> jwir3: you're orange on beta
  2171. # [20:22] <jwir3> RyanVM: ok, I'll look at it.
  2172. # [20:22] <jwir3> thanks
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  2174. # [20:23] <jwir3> RyanVM: Ugh. This is the same deal as on aurora. If I push a followup patch for this adding an asserts() to the reftest file, do I need approval for that?
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  2176. # [20:24] <RyanVM> no
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  2178. # [20:24] <RyanVM> a=test-only
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  2180. # [20:24] <jwir3> RyanVM: ok, thanks
  2181. # [20:24] <sriram> RyanVM: i have a doubt
  2182. # [20:24] <RyanVM> ?
  2183. # [20:24] <sriram> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0b159b207f4d
  2184. # [20:24] <sriram> i pushed this to try
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  2186. # [20:24] <sriram> i got this: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try/rev/0b159b207f4d
  2187. # [20:24] <sriram> same for a previous try too
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  2189. # [20:25] <RyanVM> what's the problem?
  2190. # [20:25] <sriram> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try/rev/d49c88c49c4c
  2191. # [20:25] <sriram> i don't see any tests going on
  2192. # [20:25] <sriram> in tbpl
  2193. # [20:25] <sriram> *try
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  2195. # [20:25] <RyanVM> i see builds running on 0b159b207f4d
  2196. # [20:25] <sriram> ohh.. i see now
  2197. # [20:25] <sriram> thanks :)
  2198. # [20:25] <RyanVM> any time :P
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  2205. # [20:28] <@ehsan> roc: thanks, this is the fastest review cycle I've ever seen! :)
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  2223. # [20:39] <RyanVM> bz++ roc++ dbaron++
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  2225. # [20:39] <nemo> random pinging?
  2226. # [20:39] <RyanVM> <3
  2227. # [20:40] <Callek> nemo: not so random, but yes
  2228. # [20:40] <Callek> :-)
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  2235. # [20:46] <till> bz, roc, dbaron: congrats and +∞
  2236. # [20:46] <@roc> egad
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  2238. # [20:47] <@bz_nossl> till: thanks
  2239. # [20:47] <@roc> thanks
  2240. # [20:47] <@bz_nossl> roc: and congrats. ;)
  2241. # [20:47] <@roc> you too buddy
  2242. # [20:47] <RyanVM> well earned
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  2248. # [20:49] <@bz_nossl> waldo: I made the mistake of taking Friday off and not checking work email over the weekend
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  2250. # [20:49] <@bz_nossl> waldo: woe is me and all that
  2251. # [20:49] * Ms2ger wonders what they got
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  2255. # [20:49] <jcranmer> bz_nossl: I've been high latency thanks to having quals on friday and am still digging myself out of a backlog
  2256. # [20:49] <froydnj> what's the incantation to ask mxr for all references to $CLASS::Init?
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  2258. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> froydnj, try dxr instead?
  2259. # [20:50] <froydnj> Ms2ger: that'll work
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  2262. # [20:50] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: cookies
  2263. # [20:50] <Ms2ger> Mm
  2264. # [20:50] * Ms2ger eats some of his own cookies
  2265. # [20:50] <froydnj> Ms2ger: though that just seems to show the definition, which is unhelpful
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  2307. # [21:05] <tbsaunde> so, anyone know why the do_GetService() at xpcshell.cpp:1827 might fail?
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  2322. # [21:11] <@bz> hmm
  2323. # [21:11] * @bz tries to figure out how to reserve a conference room at the MV office
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  2325. # [21:11] <GER> I am interested in the project of "Project EbookReader "Web App...from Gsoc page of 2012...is that project still available?
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  2329. # [21:13] <Waldo> bz: you use zimbra and create a meeting and set the location
  2330. # [21:13] <Waldo> bz: or you could have a local minion find one of the rooms that has reserve-at-the-door and have said minion do that
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  2334. # [21:14] <Waldo> word on the street is reserve-at-door will become the norm at some point, unlike now
  2335. # [21:14] <jhammel> oh that would make me so happy
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  2337. # [21:15] <Waldo> someone IT-ish mentioned it at some point semi-recently in some venue, don't remember when
  2338. # [21:15] <jhammel> cool; though i heard that less-semi-recently ;)
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  2340. # [21:15] <GER> can anyone guide me please...i want to start contributing to mozilla..and want to participate in GSOC
  2341. # [21:15] <Waldo> jhammel: thanks for clearing that up!
  2342. # [21:16] <RyanVM> ehsan, burning inbound
  2343. # [21:16] <jhammel> i'm sure there are challenges i don't know about but the POC works fine
  2344. # [21:16] <Waldo> GER: #introduction's a good place to ask
  2345. # [21:16] <RyanVM> man, we had a good run today w/ inbound
  2346. # [21:16] <@ehsan> looking
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  2348. # [21:16] <GER> Waldo: thanks
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  2350. # [21:16] <@ehsan> RyanVM: damn warnings :(
  2351. # [21:16] <@ehsan> let me backout for now
  2352. # [21:17] <RyanVM> aight
  2353. # [21:17] <@ehsan> dholbert: ping
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  2357. # [21:20] <@bz> Waldo: mmm... let me try zimbra
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  2359. # [21:23] <@bz> waldo: is this under "calendar"?
  2360. # [21:23] <@bz> waldo: or somewhere else?
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  2362. # [21:23] <Waldo> bz: yes, there
  2363. # [21:23] * Waldo notes he uses zimbra *only* to reserve rooms on occasion :-\
  2364. # [21:23] <@bz> The "location" is just a freeform textfield?
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  2367. # [21:24] <Waldo> bz: start typing the name of a room
  2368. # [21:24] <@bz> Ah, I see
  2369. # [21:24] <Waldo> which, um, might mean you need to know room names
  2370. # [21:24] <@bz> ok, then
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  2372. # [21:24] <@bz> yeah
  2373. # [21:24] <@bz> indeed
  2374. # [21:24] <Waldo> which is probably not entirely unreasonable for reserving physical locations, usually :-)
  2375. # [21:24] <@bz> except if I'm trying to do it from here in MV...
  2376. # [21:24] * @bz goes to look at this map
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  2378. # [21:25] <nemo> RyanVM: so. what are the congrats for? curious now.
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  2383. # [21:27] <@bz> waldo: any way to tell which of these have vidyo setups?
  2384. # [21:27] <@bz> waldo: or do they all?
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  2386. # [21:27] <fabrice> bz: not all
  2387. # [21:27] <Waldo> bz: they don't all; I'm not sure what's a good answer to that
  2388. # [21:27] <Waldo> other than being here and walking around
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  2391. # [21:28] <fabrice> bz: give us names, we'll tell you if there's vidyo!
  2392. # [21:28] <@bz> well
  2393. # [21:28] <@bz> all I need is a room that can fit something like 5 people and has vidyo
  2394. # [21:28] <@bz> in MV
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  2396. # [21:28] <@bz> Giving you names is a PITA because as soon as I focus IRC the list in zimbra pops down
  2397. # [21:28] <@bz> this is so insanely broken....
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  2400. # [21:29] <fabrice> bz: all your base, cya, zombocom
  2401. # [21:29] <mconnor> bz: description has vidyo
  2402. # [21:29] <fabrice> (there are others)
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  2404. # [21:29] <mconnor> bz: click on location button in Zimbra, you can filter
  2405. # [21:29] <Waldo> well, vidyo in desc probably also gets the ones that have an ipad in them
  2406. # [21:29] <@bz> mconnor: location button?
  2407. # [21:29] <mconnor> bz: you're creating a meeting in zimbra?
  2408. # [21:30] <@bz> yes
  2409. # [21:30] <mconnor> it looks like a header, but is a button
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  2411. # [21:30] <@bz> I'm in the "QuickAdd Appointment" dialog
  2412. # [21:30] <@bz> which has a "Location" textfield
  2413. # [21:30] <mconnor> details
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  2416. # [21:30] <@bz> aha
  2417. # [21:30] <mconnor> bz: details is basically always what you want if you're inviting people and trying to find open spots/rooms :)
  2418. # [21:30] <@bz> AHA
  2419. # [21:31] <@bz> here we go
  2420. # [21:31] <mconnor> and you can filter on nearly everything
  2421. # [21:31] <@bz> Perfect
  2422. # [21:31] <@bz> Thanks!
  2423. # [21:31] <mconnor> np
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  2425. # [21:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: how insane is inbound atm?
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  2427. # [21:33] <johns> I think I may have broken B2G M-1
  2428. # [21:33] <johns> luckily B2G mochitests are completely fubar right now so nobody noticed
  2429. # [21:33] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: remarkably good
  2430. # [21:33] * RyanVM knocks on wood
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  2433. # [21:34] <RyanVM> johns: yeah, I've had about enough of that for now
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  2435. # [21:35] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: sorry, enough's enough
  2436. # [21:36] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: ?
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  2439. # [21:37] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: just closed inbound :)
  2440. # [21:37] <gavin> hrm, is there no way to pass nsIRequest load flags to loadURI()?
  2441. # [21:38] <philor> RyanVM: don't completely discount it being entirely johns' fault, though
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  2443. # [21:38] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: ah, no worries
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  2445. # [21:38] <johns> philor: :(
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  2447. # [21:38] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I was mostly looking for a reason I should keep debugging instead of believing test failures magically went away
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  2452. # [21:41] <philor> I retriggered a few on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=7fd8d9bbbd9c to see if it would go backward like a proper infra failure should, but that first M9 which started at the same time as the green ones on 18df15462240 kinda throws off the "something external broke between 12:35 and 12:45" theory
  2453. # [21:42] <philor> not that b2g is above failing in a known intermittent way, and then 10 minutes later becoming permafail with the same symptoms and a totally different cause, having learned how to do that from Fennec
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  2459. # [21:44] <nhirata> just throwing this out there… is there any addons or features that would allow for searching through the bookmarks and allowing mass tagging/subfoldering for the searched groups?
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  2464. # [21:45] <nhirata> my bookmarks have become unwieldy and it would be nice to be able to have them all grouped in a fast way rather than me having to select one and drag it into the folder for each one.
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  2466. # [21:46] <nhirata> it would be nice for a selection based on a search result group
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  2469. # [21:47] <bsmedberg> bholley: ping
  2470. # [21:47] <bholley> bsmedberg: hi
  2471. # [21:47] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
  2472. # [21:47] <bsmedberg> bholley: how often would CrossCompartmentWrapper::Call be called in typical Firefox usage?
  2473. # [21:47] <bholley> bsmedberg: very often
  2474. # [21:47] <nhirata> oh it's there… just the ui is buggy for tagging. nm
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  2476. # [21:48] <bsmedberg> bholley: well ok, how often compared with nsXPConnect::GetXPConnect?
  2477. # [21:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: any time the callstack crosses compartment boundaries
  2478. # [21:48] <nhirata> guess I have to play with the bookmark thing more
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  2480. # [21:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: hm, I'm not sure
  2481. # [21:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: why do you ask?
  2482. # [21:49] <bsmedberg> bholley: I'm still picking apart "the AMD bug" and it appears to hit 19.0.2 in CrossCompartmentWrapper::call or perhaps Wrapper::call
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  2485. # [21:49] <bsmedberg> bholley: but I suspect that it's not as much of a topcrasher as it was in 19.0 simply because we don't call those functions nearly as often
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  2487. # [21:50] <bholley> bsmedberg: hm
  2488. # [21:50] * bsmedberg hopes bholley is somewhat aware of the AMD bug and it's 19.0 manifestation in nsXPConnect::GetXPConnect
  2489. # [21:50] * bholley isn't really
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  2491. # [21:51] <bholley> bsmedberg: GetXPConnect is called all over the place by C++
  2492. # [21:51] <bsmedberg> yeah
  2493. # [21:51] <bholley> bsmedberg: I couldn't tell you the hottest callsite offhand
  2494. # [21:51] <bholley> bsmedberg: CrossCompartmentWrapper::call is called whenever we cross compartment boundaries running JS
  2495. # [21:51] <bholley> bsmedberg: which we do a lot, especially for system stuff
  2496. # [21:52] <bholley> bsmedberg: but that might be dwarfed by the number of GetXPConnect calls
  2497. # [21:52] <bsmedberg> yes
  2498. # [21:52] <bsmedberg> I expect so
  2499. # [21:52] <@roc> oh man
  2500. # [21:52] <@roc> the AMD bug
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  2503. # [21:53] <bsmedberg> roc: I have a theory about it
  2504. # [21:53] <@roc> oh I'd love to hear it
  2505. # [21:53] <bsmedberg> I don't know *why* they'd do this
  2506. # [21:54] <bsmedberg> but I believe they are temporarily resetting some piece of memory, perhaps even from kernelspace
  2507. # [21:54] <bsmedberg> they quickly re-write the original value
  2508. # [21:54] <bsmedberg> so we typically only see these crashes show up if they happen to be rewriting a piece of memory which we call a *lot*
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  2511. # [21:54] <bsmedberg> this is why it has shown up in hot layout codepaths and then nsXPConnect::GetXPConnect
  2512. # [21:54] <RyanVM> dammit jwir3, I had those ready to push
  2513. # [21:54] <RyanVM> with the annotations backed out too
  2514. # [21:55] <@roc> that is a plausible theory indeed
  2515. # [21:55] <jwir3> RyanVM: Ah, sorry
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  2517. # [21:55] <bsmedberg> roc: I've almost certainly verified that the memory is not being written from userspace
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  2519. # [21:55] * RyanVM rebases
  2520. # [21:55] <@roc> how?
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  2523. # [21:55] <bsmedberg> because I know what memory is being corrupted, and I set hardware breakpoints on it
  2524. # [21:55] <@roc> how???
  2525. # [21:55] <@roc> you can reproduce this?
  2526. # [21:55] <bsmedberg> in FF 19.0 on a machine in the QA lab, yes
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  2528. # [21:56] <@roc> how do you know what memory is being corrupted? is it always the same address?
  2529. # [21:56] <bsmedberg> it appears to be, yes
  2530. # [21:56] <jwir3> RyanVM: Ah, you got them in on beta, though. ;)
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  2532. # [21:56] <RyanVM> jwir3: yeah, exactly
  2533. # [21:56] <bsmedberg> roc: relative to the relocation of xul.dll even
  2534. # [21:57] <bsmedberg> roc: just as with prior versions, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830531#c33
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  2536. # [21:57] <@roc> you mean the offset within xul.dll is constant no matter where xul.dll is loaded? yeah I noticed that
  2537. # [21:58] <@roc> is the QA lab machine multicore?
  2538. # [21:58] <@roc> by the way, you are a hero
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  2540. # [21:59] <bsmedberg> I'll check, I expect so.
  2541. # [22:00] <bsmedberg> This crash correlates highly but not exclusively with multicore machines.
  2542. # [22:00] <@roc> if it is, you could maybe create a separate watcher thread that sits in a tight loop monitoring the suspicious memory location
  2543. # [22:00] <bsmedberg> I was actually considering setting up a kernel debug session, at least the next time I'm in MV.
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  2545. # [22:00] <@roc> that might spot what's being written there
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  2547. # [22:00] <bsmedberg> Since kernel debugging over the network is almost impossible.
  2548. # [22:01] <@roc> maybe a crack person in MV could take this over for you. Getting this sorted out ASAP would save a lot of energy
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  2550. # [22:03] <bsmedberg> yeah, it's a dual-core
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  2552. # [22:03] <bsmedberg> I poked around, nobody had experience with a windows kernel debugger
  2553. # [22:03] <@roc> do you?
  2554. # [22:03] <bsmedberg> not really, I'd be poking around myself
  2555. # [22:03] <@roc> so it might as well be someone local
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  2564. # [22:09] <sfink> anybody with a Win7 build machine who can tell me what header mingw hides dirname() in? (WinXP seems to have it in io.h or direct.h, not sure which, but Win7 apparently is different)
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  2567. # [22:09] <sfink> hm, maybe I can unpack the relevant MozillaBuild
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  2569. # [22:10] <sfink> er, no, that wouldn't help
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  2575. # [22:11] <Waldo> sfink: this is a mingw header, not something MSVC would ship?
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  2577. # [22:12] <sfink> Waldo: I guess I don't know for sure. It's definitely not Win32 API. I'm fuzzy on what comes from where in the Windows environment.
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  2580. # [22:13] <Waldo> sfink: grep -r dirname /c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio {8,9.0,10.0}/VC/include doesn't find anything
  2581. # [22:13] <Waldo> (with all the right shell-escaping of stuff)
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  2603. # [22:22] <tbsaunde> glandium: what's the difference between appdir and gredir, and which do I need to pass to xpcshell?
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  2610. # [22:24] <johns> philor / RyanVM: Do we know what spooked B2G yet? I'm okay with backing out my test again to rule that out if need be
  2611. # [22:24] <RyanVM> johns: the bustage is older than your push
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  2613. # [22:25] <RyanVM> and across more tests
  2614. # [22:25] <glandium> tbsaunde: depending on the test you may need to give both ; but the simplest is to use a wrapper like mach
  2615. # [22:25] <johns> RyanVM: Yeah I agree mine is unlikely
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  2620. # [22:26] <tbsaunde> glandium: this is on a test slave, so I only have a tests.zip and firefox.tar.bz2
  2621. # [22:28] <tbsaunde> glandium: so I'm trying to get xpcshell to even start, so I can run tests
  2622. # [22:28] <glandium> tbsaunde: check the xpcshell logs :)
  2623. # [22:28] <RyanVM> johns: philor: heh, nmatsakis' Try push shows the same B2G bustage
  2624. # [22:28] <RyanVM> backout ahoy
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  2628. # [22:29] <tbsaunde> glandium: what log do you mean?
  2629. # [22:30] <glandium> tbsaunde: any one you can find on tbpl
  2630. # [22:30] <tbsaunde> glandium: I'm not trying to run xpcshell tests, I just need it to run the httpd
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  2632. # [22:31] <Waldo> glandium: does https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845478#c8 look at all familiar to you?
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  2634. # [22:33] <glandium> Waldo: no, and that code hasn't changed in a long time
  2635. # [22:33] <Waldo> hmm
  2636. # [22:33] <glandium> Waldo: add a print path before the os.path.split call
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  2638. # [22:34] <glandium> tbsaunde: what do you need it for?
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  2641. # [22:34] <tbsaunde> glandium: I'm looking at the log for the try run this xpcshell cam from, and it would have me believe that bin/xpcshell -g firefox/ -v 170 -f httpd.js -e "some js" -f server.js works, but I can't see a difference in the inv and bin/xpcshell -g firefox/ dies with do_GetService() failing to get nsIXPConnect
  2642. # [22:35] <Waldo> glandium: I'm going to guess he has bad cached *.pyc and hope that fixes it, I think
  2643. # [22:35] * Waldo stabs *.pyc
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  2647. # [22:36] <glandium> tbsaunde: are you in the right directory, with the right stuff under firefox/ _
  2648. # [22:36] <glandium> ?
  2649. # [22:36] <glandium> Waldo: somehow i doubt it
  2650. # [22:37] <Waldo> :-\
  2651. # [22:37] <@smaug> Waldo: C++11 is not supported on all the platforms, right?
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  2653. # [22:37] <glandium> Waldo: i'm not excluding a corner case in that code
  2654. # [22:37] <Waldo> smaug: we don't compile all code as C++11, no
  2655. # [22:37] <glandium> smaug: right
  2656. # [22:38] <Waldo> "support" is not really a meaningful term given that compilers have implemented incrementally across versions
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  2658. # [22:38] <Waldo> sort of like saying "Gecko supports HTML5" is not meaningful :-)
  2659. # [22:38] <Waldo> we feature-test (or version-test if that's all we can do) and use what's available
  2660. # [22:38] * @smaug is trying to figure out template magic to enable certain code is the class has Addref/Release, but based on some comments C++11 might be needed
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  2664. # [22:39] <@smaug> s/is the/if the/
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  2667. # [22:39] <JonathanS> https://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/C%2B%2B0xCompilerSupport good guy Apache
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  2669. # [22:39] <Waldo> it's possible to test for the presence of a method in a class without C++11; the incantation is somewhat involved
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  2671. # [22:40] <JonathanS> Waldo, you seen that apache link?
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  2673. # [22:40] <Waldo> smaug: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/87372/check-if-a-class-has-a-member-function-of-a-given-signature or so
  2674. # [22:40] <Waldo> JonathanS: yeah, I've seen it
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  2676. # [22:41] <Waldo> smaug: there may be some way to better encapsulate that, I haven't looked closely
  2677. # [22:41] <JonathanS> it is not like to move up to GCC 4.8 to max support C++11
  2678. # [22:41] <@smaug> Waldo: ok looking that. The stackoverflow pages I found all said C++11 is needed
  2679. # [22:42] <tbsaunde> glandium: well, my directory setup is slightly different from the one the tests run with, but it seems like the paths should be fine, the tests run with cwd == test/ xpcshell in test/build/test/bin/xpcshell and firefox/ is test/build/application/firefox/ and I just did cwd == ~ firefox/ is ~/firefox/ and xpcshell is ~/bin/xpcshell
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  2681. # [22:42] <JonathanS> poor MSVC
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  2683. # [22:42] <Waldo> MSVC supports a reasonable amount of C++11, as I understand, in recent versions
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  2686. # [22:43] <@smaug> Waldo: perhaps I should ask this differently. Do you know whether all the compilers we support can handle this case?
  2687. # [22:43] <glandium> smaug, Waldo: istr there are a few glitches with SFINAE and virtual methods
  2688. # [22:43] <@smaug> (SFINAE is so ugly)
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  2690. # [22:44] <glandium> smaug: we have sfinae code already, so all compilers we support do handle it
  2691. # [22:44] <@smaug> k
  2692. # [22:45] <@smaug> glandium: what is the problem with virtual methods?
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  2694. # [22:45] <Waldo> smaug: I don't know any reason why they wouldn't support that -- it's a commonly bandied about trick, I have to imagine I'd have heard about lack of compiler support before if it didn't work with our compilers
  2695. # [22:46] <glandium> smaug: note i might be misremembering. Just be careful to check everything works fine, since we have places where AddRef is virtual
  2696. # [22:46] <@smaug> exactly
  2697. # [22:46] <@smaug> it is usually virtual
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  2724. # [23:03] <njn> Waldo: internally, using 0-indexing was simpler -- avoided several +1s and -1s in expressions
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  2726. # [23:03] <Waldo> njn: 0-indexing is usually easier internally :-)
  2727. # [23:04] <jhammel> 0-indexing is the only indexing worth speaking of :P
  2728. # [23:04] <njn> jhammel: don't start, please
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  2730. # [23:04] <njn> :)
  2731. # [23:05] <jhammel> sorry, i thought this was freenode.net/#zealot ;)
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  2733. # [23:05] <jhammel> and on the subject of oxford commas...
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  2735. # [23:06] <njn> oxford commas? I'll raise you JavaScript semicolons
  2736. # [23:06] <jhammel> :)
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  2738. # [23:06] <jhammel> for once, i won't take the bait
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  2740. # [23:06] * njn finds that the 0 vs. 1-indexing adds a nice twist to the usual emacs vs. vim debates
  2741. # [23:06] <@smaug> hmm, so SFINAE wouldn't work so easily in case Addref/Release are inherited
  2742. # [23:06] <jhammel> yeah, emacs vs. vim is a dead museum
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  2746. # [23:07] <Waldo> smaug: pretty sure it should work, why wouldn't it?
  2747. # [23:07] <Waldo> well, maybe not pretty sure
  2748. # [23:07] <Waldo> but why not?
  2749. # [23:08] <seth> i was curious if it was possible to run emacs in a buffer in vim
  2750. # [23:08] <seth> turns out the answer is yes
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  2752. # [23:08] <seth> renders the debate obsolete i suppose =p
  2753. # [23:08] <njn> seth: doesn't vim have an emacs mode? or is it the other way around
  2754. # [23:09] <seth> njn: emacs definitely has (multiple) vim modes
  2755. # [23:09] <kbrosnan> emacs has evil mode
  2756. # [23:09] <seth> not sure about the other way around
  2757. # [23:09] <@smaug> Waldo: just reading the comments in that page...
  2758. # [23:09] <@smaug> but maybe that limitation is about operators?
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  2763. # [23:12] <Waldo> smaug: yeah, I think that's the case, and/or that those operators aren't virtual as well
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  2766. # [23:13] <@smaug> Waldo: Addref/Release can be virtual or non-virtual...
  2767. # [23:13] <@smaug> but maybe it is about operator
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  2769. # [23:15] <Waldo> smaug: I think really it is about operators; to the best of my memory they don't inherit
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  2771. # [23:15] <@smaug> k
  2772. # [23:15] <Waldo> or at least some don't
  2773. # [23:15] * @smaug is still thinking some nicer solution to whatever he is doing
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  2777. # [23:16] <Waldo> :-)
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  2784. # [23:19] <tbsaunde> smaug: bindings stuff already has a is nsISupports thing, so maybe you could use that and then avoid the virtual overriden AddRef / Release being importnat
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  2791. # [23:22] <@smaug> tbsaunde: nsISupports isn't good enough. We have stuff not-inheriting nsISupports which have addref/release
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  2793. # [23:22] <bmoss> jst: ping
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  2801. # [23:26] <tbsaunde> smaug: I wasn't saying it was on its own, but do we have stuff that is not nsISupports and has virtual AddRef / Release?
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  2810. # [23:29] <tbsaunde> k/win 29
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  2812. # [23:33] <@smaug> well, this thing should be future-proof
  2813. # [23:33] <@smaug> tbsaunde: ^
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  2819. # [23:36] <njn> why am I getting a link error when using SourceCoords::MAX_PTR in SourceCoords::SourceCoords(), when I can use it just fine in SourceCoords::add() ?
  2820. # [23:36] * njn scratches head
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  2822. # [23:37] <tbsaunde> smaug: yeah, true
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  2824. # [23:37] <njn> and MAX_PTR is |static const|
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  2841. # [23:47] <njn> oh, FFS.
  2842. # [23:47] <njn> This works:
  2843. # [23:47] <njn> TokenPtr max = MAX_PTR;
  2844. # [23:47] <njn> lineStartPtrs_.infallibleAppend(max);
  2845. # [23:47] <njn> but this is a link error:
  2846. # [23:47] <njn> lineStartPtrs_.infallibleAppend(MAX_PTR);
  2847. # [23:47] <njn> WTF
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  2849. # [23:48] <njn> happens with gcc and clang; must be a gold bug
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  2851. # [23:49] <Waldo> njn: it could be that infallibleAppend only takes type T, but MAX_PTR isn't T exactly
  2852. # [23:49] <Waldo> njn: and you fall over on the usual arithmetic conversions or something
  2853. # [23:49] <@smaug> oh, and the return value of AddRef/Release may be void or nsrefcnt or anything else...
  2854. # [23:49] <njn> Waldo: MAX_PTR has type |TokenPtr|, which is typedef'd to uint32_t
  2855. # [23:50] <dholbert> ted, is there a bug tracking the m-i disable-crashreporter bustage already?
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  2857. # [23:50] <dholbert> ted, (would it be helpful if I filed one? I was actually about to, and then I saw https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779291#c106 )
  2858. # [23:50] <njn> Waldo: and |lineStartPtrs_| is a Vector<TokenPtr>
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  2860. # [23:50] <njn> Waldo: so AFAICT the types are consistent
  2861. # [23:50] <Waldo> actually, I know what this is
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  2864. # [23:50] <Waldo> lemme dig up the stackoverflow :-\
  2865. # [23:51] <Mook_as> njn: what's the actual declaration of MAX_PTR?
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  2869. # [23:52] <njn> static const TokenPtr MAX_PTR = UINT32_MAX;
  2870. # [23:52] <njn> typedef uint32_t TokenPtr;
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  2872. # [23:53] <Waldo> njn: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4891067/weird-undefined-symbols-of-static-constants-inside-a-struct-class
  2873. # [23:54] <Waldo> njn: basically you can use |static const T = t| in constant expressions, safely, and otherwise it can get dodgy
  2874. # [23:54] <njn> Waldo: goodness
  2875. # [23:54] <njn> another deep dark corner
  2876. # [23:54] <Waldo> yeah, pretty much
  2877. # [23:54] <njn> Waldo: thanks!
  2878. # [23:54] <Waldo> C++11 has constexpr to deal with this
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  2882. # [23:56] <Waldo> looks like MSVC11 doesn't have constexpr, so it may be awhile before we can use that
  2883. # [23:56] <Waldo> at least, outside limited cases
  2884. # [23:56] <njn> Waldo: now I get multiple occurrences of this:
  2885. # [23:57] <njn> /usr/bin/ld.gold.real: error: /home/njn/moz/mi3slim/js/src/d64/jsarray.o: multiple definition of 'js::frontend::TokenStream::SourceCoords::MAX_PTR'
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  2888. # [23:57] * njn moves it from the .h to the .cpp
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  2890. # [23:58] <Waldo> njn: yeah, I think you just want |TokenPtr max = MAX_PTR; infallibleAppend(max);| to hack around this, maybe with a comment saying this splitup's necessary to avoid link errors
  2891. # [23:58] <Waldo> that could work, too, maybe
  2892. # [23:58] <njn> Waldo: yeah, moving it worked
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  2894. # [23:58] * Waldo doesn't know these dark corners particularly well, either
  2895. # [23:58] <njn> Waldo: thanks again; I never would have worked that out
  2896. # [23:59] <Waldo> np
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