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  1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 12 00:00:00 2013
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  4. # [00:02] <Jesse> dbaron: do assertions during startup/shutdown trigger oranges in reftest/mochitest ?
  5. # [00:02] <@dbaron> Jesse, shutdown does not... I'd have to check about startup
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  8. # [00:03] <@dbaron> Jesse, startup assertions might get attributed to the first test, or might just get dropped
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  14. # [00:04] <Jesse> dbaron: to fix shutdown, i guess the js harness would have to tell python "you're responsible for counting assertions from here on"?
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  16. # [00:05] <@dbaron> Jesse, yeah... though I *think* one of the other tests that starts/shuts down the browser has assertions fatal... though I'm not sure about that
  17. # [00:05] <@dbaron> Jesse, that wouldn't catch an assertion during shutdown resulting from something that happened during a test, though
  18. # [00:06] <Jesse> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20526392&tree=Firefox has a bunch of "###!!! ASSERTION: stylesheet not found: 'Not Reached', file ../../../../content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp, line 3673" within nsCycleCollector::Shutdown
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  21. # [00:10] <Jesse> dbaron: i guess i'll file a bug on that assertion, and a bug on making all shutdown assertions count as failures, and chain it to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279923
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  30. # [00:16] <Waldo> njn: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3025997/c-defining-static-const-integer-members-in-class-definition?rq=1 is the question/answer I'd seen before -- the key bit is that infallibleAppend (and all the Vector methods) "takes its parameters by const reference. If it took them by value you'd not have this problem but since you need a reference you also need a definition."
  31. # [00:17] <Waldo> njn: I bet with a little trouble we could make the Vector methods take T in this case, rather than const T&, but it might not be worth the rare trouble
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  39. # [00:19] <Jesse> using find + "highlight all" on a tinderbox log turned out to be a bad idea
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  41. # [00:22] <mbrubeck> I need an add-on that will just yell insults at me if I try to load a full log in a Firefox tab.
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  45. # [00:24] <jhammel> hmmm....that wouldn't work well with my addon that, when i look at a brief log, replaces the contents with "Ha ha ha! what you care about is only in the full log!"
  46. # [00:24] <froydnj> mbrubeck: firefox already comes with that! it stops the browser from working for five minutes
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  50. # [00:25] <@dbaron> Jesse, I think there's a bug on "stylesheet not found" already
  51. # [00:26] <Jesse> dbaron: oh? i couldn't find it
  52. # [00:26] <@dbaron> Jesse, I think it's an assertion-during-gc, and I made a bunch of tests that triggered it explicitly GC
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  54. # [00:26] <@roc> anyone know if there's a test IMAP account somewhere I can log into to read a lot of emails?
  55. # [00:26] <@dbaron> Jesse, 683159
  56. # [00:27] <Jesse> oh, i didn't find it because it was an abort when filed
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  64. # [00:33] <@ehsan> roc: ping
  65. # [00:33] <@roc> hi
  66. # [00:33] <@ehsan> roc: hey, so, is this similar to what you were thinking (sans checking for errors/edge cases/etc): http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2210266
  67. # [00:34] <@roc> yes
  68. # [00:34] <@roc> except
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  70. # [00:34] <@roc> I think the BorrowFromInputBuffer and memcpy logic can be factored out to be common to all the cases
  71. # [00:34] <@roc> at the start of the loop, just figure out which section of the audio buffer we want
  72. # [00:34] <@ehsan> well the offsets cannot be the same
  73. # [00:34] <@roc> right
  74. # [00:35] <@ehsan> hrm
  75. # [00:35] <@roc> so identify the starting position and length of the next segment to use
  76. # [00:35] <@ehsan> I think that basically means rewrite the basic blocks in a while/switch loop, as opposed to if blocks ;;)
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  78. # [00:35] <@ehsan> is that not the case?
  79. # [00:36] <@roc> The first part of the loop will be a switch where each case just sets two local variables
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  81. # [00:37] <@roc> in fact
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  83. # [00:37] <@roc> never mind
  84. # [00:37] <@roc> it should be simpler, I think
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  87. # [00:38] <@ehsan> roc: do you also want the WriteZeroesToAudioBlock code to be shared too?
  88. # [00:38] <@roc> if you use variables that mean "where to start taking samples from" and "end of the region we can take samples from", then taking the min with WEBAUDIO_BLOCK_SIZE - written will also be common
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  90. # [00:39] <@roc> ehsan: that only happens in the not-looping case right?
  91. # [00:39] <@roc> It might make sense to have a flag or special value that means "use zeroes instead of taking from the buffer"
  92. # [00:39] <@ehsan> hmm
  93. # [00:40] <@ehsan> I guess it's possible for currentPosition <= mStart and that we also loop
  94. # [00:40] <@ehsan> if the source buffer is very tiny
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  97. # [00:40] <@roc> what do you mean?
  98. # [00:40] <@ehsan> if the source buffer's length is < WEBAUDIO_BLOCK_SIZE
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  100. # [00:41] <@ehsan> which the current code doesn't handle properly
  101. # [00:41] <@roc> yeah
  102. # [00:41] <@roc> also I'm not sure you handle properly the case where the loop length is < WEBAUDIO_BLOCK_SIZE and we might need to use many loop blocks
  103. # [00:41] <@ehsan> yeah I guess I can just remember whether to look at the source buffer or not
  104. # [00:41] <@roc> my suggested structure would just handle that
  105. # [00:42] <@ehsan> yeah I guess I don't :)
  106. # [00:42] <@ehsan> right
  107. # [00:42] <@ehsan> ok, sold!
  108. # [00:42] <@roc> :-)
  109. # [00:42] <@ehsan> I hope that the final code ends up being simpler too
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  111. # [00:42] <@ehsan> but it _will_ end up being correct!
  112. # [00:43] <@ehsan> which is nice
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  114. # [00:43] <@ehsan> roc: one last question: is it ok to let the code to do the initial SetNull's be as it currently is?
  115. # [00:44] <@ehsan> I don't think it makes a lot of sense to make that go inside the loop
  116. # [00:44] <@roc> I dunno
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  118. # [00:44] <@roc> SetNull is really just an optimization for writing WEBAUDIO_BLOCK_SIZE zeroes
  119. # [00:44] <@roc> so maybe you should do it that way
  120. # [00:45] <@ehsan> hmm, ok, let me see what I can do
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  122. # [00:45] <@ehsan> I'll hopefully have a patch later tonight
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  124. # [00:46] <Jesse> peterv: ping on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836925 ? i'd like to get even the non-exploitable dir=auto crashes out of the way, because sometimes it's hard for the fuzzer to distinguish between different crashes in the same function
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  133. # [00:51] * njn just learnt you can undo parts of mq patches with |hg qref <filepattern>|. That explains the weirdness I sometimes get when I type |hg qref foo| instead of |hg qnew foo|
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  155. # [01:05] <mbrubeck> argh, forgot to qref. :(
  156. # [01:06] <froydnj> njn: that sounds absolutely bizarre
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  159. # [01:07] <paul> I'm trying to use waitForAllPaintsFlushed in a mochitest, and I run into a permission issue. I've been told to use SpecialPowers for that, but I have no idea how.
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  164. # [01:09] <paul> roc: ^
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  166. # [01:09] <paul> maybe I should use a chrome mochitest
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  169. # [01:11] <dzbarsky> is anyone getting errors when linking libxul on inbound on mac?
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  171. # [01:11] <dzbarsky> missing symbols in breakpad
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  180. # [01:16] <RyanVM> jimm: ping
  181. # [01:16] <RyanVM> jimm: you made bug415761.sjs orange on Win7
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  186. # [01:19] <RyanVM> jimm: nice going
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  188. # [01:19] <RyanVM> jimm: 500 ISE on a reftest :P
  189. # [01:19] <jimm> i'm backing out
  190. # [01:19] <RyanVM> too late ;)
  191. # [01:20] <jimm> oh beat me to it?
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  193. # [01:20] <RyanVM> I work quick :D
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  195. # [01:20] <jimm> thx
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  200. # [01:22] <jimm> RyanVM: that was my bad. I've got a try push that's been sitting for six hours waiting on reftest runs. I just got impatient.
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  202. # [01:22] <RyanVM> I honestly can't say I blame you
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  206. # [01:23] <reuben> dholbert: I'm seeing lots of "Unknown property '-moz-align-self'" errors from ua.css in the b2g console, even though bug 801098 did not land on b2g18. do you know why that would happen?
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  209. # [01:24] <dholbert> reuben, yeah, that's known/expected. One sec, let me pull up the bug
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  212. # [01:24] <dholbert> known/expected/unfortunate, I should say
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  215. # [01:25] <dholbert> reuben, this bug is roughly about that: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798592
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  219. # [01:26] <dholbert> reuben, basically, with the flexbox pref turned on, we need that line in ua.css in order for things to work right. With the flexbox pref turned off, that line in ua.css is harmless aside from the warning (which it should spam only once, at browser-startup)
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  221. # [01:26] <dholbert> reuben, unfortunately there are a lot of "browser-startup" type events on b2g, so it's spammier there.
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  223. # [01:27] <dholbert> reuben, @supports would allow us to make that chunk of ua.css conditionally enabled, but @supports itself is pref-controlled and isn't enabled by default on release builds last I checked. :)
  224. # [01:27] <dholbert> reuben, which is why the bug hasn't had a patch land
  225. # [01:27] <reuben> dholbert: ah, that makes sense.
  226. # [01:27] <@roc> paul: yes, mochitest-chrome is probably the way to go
  227. # [01:28] <reuben> dholbert: in that case, you should probably remove the [mentor=] tag to avoid attracting contributors to it
  228. # [01:28] <reuben> dholbert: when are we preffing flexbox on?
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  230. # [01:28] <dholbert> reuben, ah, good point. technically it's assigned already, so contributors shouldn't be flocking to it
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  232. # [01:29] <dholbert> reuben, but yeah, I'll probably just mark it invalid or something
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  235. # [01:29] <dholbert> reuben, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=841876 tracks enabling it in release builds
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  237. # [01:29] <dholbert> reuben, hopefully during this nightly cycle (for FF 22)
  238. # [01:30] <reuben> dholbert: cool! thanks :)
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  240. # [01:33] <seth> anyone know offhand when Q1 ends?
  241. # [01:33] <dholbert> seth, end of march I think?
  242. # [01:33] <seth> dholbert: thanks
  243. # [01:33] <dholbert> (pretty sure we just use 3-calendar-month quarters)
  244. # [01:33] <dholbert> np
  245. # [01:34] <seth> yeah, mozilla is actually disconcertingly sane in that regard
  246. # [01:34] <seth> i've worked for places where there was a weird difference between the quarters and the calendar year
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  248. # [01:35] <@dolske> that's quite normal. many places have fiscal quarters that don't match simple calendar quarters.
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  253. # [01:36] <seth> yup. probably should have phrased that as "most places i've work for"
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  257. # [01:38] <seth> 1 per zodiac sign
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  319. # [02:26] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: inbound bustage
  320. # [02:26] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: looking
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  323. # [02:29] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: that should easy to fix
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  333. # [02:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: bustage fix pushed hope you don't mind
  334. # [02:32] <RyanVM> not at all
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  347. # [02:40] <@ehsan> can the tree be reopened?
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  354. # [02:42] <RyanVM> ehsan: waiting a bit to make sure the bustage fix sticks
  355. # [02:42] <@ehsan> ok
  356. # [02:43] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I'll do my best to break it again once you reopen ;)
  357. # [02:43] <RyanVM> I have full faith and confidence in you :)
  358. # [02:43] <tbsaunde> ehsan: its not like that's a hard problem :p
  359. # [02:44] <@ehsan> I fear that I might mess up and check something in which actually works :s
  360. # [02:44] <@ehsan> but I have tested this patch locally and made sure it breaks the tree!
  361. # [02:44] <tbsaunde> also woo for static checking catching my bit rott
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  374. # [02:51] <@ehsan> question for native English speakers
  375. # [02:51] <@ehsan> which one is correct:
  376. # [02:51] <@ehsan> "We're past that point" or "We're passed that point"?
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  378. # [02:53] <RyanVM> k ehsan, fire away
  379. # [02:53] <@ehsan> ty
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  381. # [02:54] <RyanVM> ehsan: past
  382. # [02:54] <@ehsan> RyanVM: thanks!
  383. # [02:54] <RyanVM> np
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  421. # [03:34] <philor> do we retain a selection even after the window in which it was selected is closed?
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  423. # [03:35] <tbsaunde> philor: I imagine that depends how hard we try to leak
  424. # [03:35] <philor> pretty damn hard, in my experience
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  426. # [03:37] <@roc> philor: you mean does our clipboard code hold onto a copy of the copied data? or do you mean something else
  427. # [03:37] <philor> I was believing that bug 848943 meant that we had to be handing browser_contextmenu.js the window that browser_plainTextLinks.js opened and closed a few dozen tests before, but actually, the selected text is the text that browser_plainTextLinks.js last selected
  428. # [03:37] <philor> roc: not copied, merely selected
  429. # [03:38] <@roc> on Linux?
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  431. # [03:38] <@roc> possibly on Linux selection automatically copies
  432. # [03:38] <philor> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/test/browser_contextmenu.js#74
  433. # [03:38] <@roc> hoho, Bugzilla comment of the day: "Yeah, the risk is highest I have ever experienced."
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  440. # [03:39] <@roc> of course I told him to land it and let philor handle the rest
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  442. # [03:39] <@bz> lol
  443. # [03:39] <philor> hg qnew backout
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  445. # [03:39] <philor> oops, wrong window
  446. # [03:41] <philor> the failure is that the context menu "Search Foo for 'selected text'" menuitem has text that was selected dozens of tests before, or, that opening a tab gets a tab that was closed dozens of tests before, not sure which I like better
  447. # [03:41] <philor> but that executeSoon is a little sketchy looking, and maybe what I mean is "is the context menu code frightening?"
  448. # [03:43] <@roc> is there a way to find my first ever comment in Bugzilla?
  449. # [03:43] <Waldo> look in your bugmail archives, of course ;-)
  450. # [03:44] * philor knows roughly what his first one was, and doesn't want to find it
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  453. # [03:46] <philor> oh, maybe not, I was "new to" in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157800#c10 but that doesn't have the teaching granny to suck eggs that I thought was my first contribution
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  459. # [03:50] <gavin> roc: you can use https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html if you know approximate date range
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  461. # [03:51] <gavin> (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243703#c2 was my first)
  462. # [03:52] <@roc> ah awesome!~
  463. # [03:53] <gavin> hrm, something's sketchy here
  464. # [03:54] <gavin> I made my first dependency change minutes after my first comment? I didn't get editbugs that quickly
  465. # [03:55] <gavin> or did dependency changes not require editbugs then?
  466. # [03:55] <philor> another account before that one, that you didn't merge? that turns out to be what I did, though I'd forgotten it ever existed
  467. # [03:55] <gavin> I've only had one account
  468. # [03:56] <@roc> wow, I was so stupid back then
  469. # [03:58] <Waldo> heh
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  471. # [03:59] <Waldo> I seem to have done better than I remembered, in that my first bug was predictably a dup, but I recognized it before I could waste anyone else's time but mine :-) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189858
  472. # [03:59] <Waldo> that also happens to be the first comment I ever made
  473. # [03:59] <Waldo> first change was CC on bug 8589, 2003‑01‑16 17:51:31 PST
  474. # [03:59] <@dbaron> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845#c0
  475. # [04:00] <@roc> the first patch I got checked in (which was the third patch I wrote), came with the comment "fixed and checked in. THANKS, roc+moz (who the heck are you, anyway?)"
  476. # [04:00] <Waldo> showoff, filing a valid first bug :-P
  477. # [04:00] <Waldo> haha
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  480. # [04:02] <gavin> dbaron: I like that you came back in 2003 and fixed the link
  481. # [04:02] <@roc> by then the core layout engineers had already started leaving. That hurt.
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  483. # [04:02] <@dbaron> gavin, I think that was a mass change when I moved my site
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  485. # [04:02] <@dbaron> manual mass change, of course
  486. # [04:02] <philor> huh, and I came back 2004-04-20, I'm pretty sure I didn't know at the time that gavin was newbier than me
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  488. # [04:03] <tbsaunde> philor: so, was it me that broke m4 or is that something else?
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  490. # [04:03] <jcranmer> my first change was a bug that got duped to bug 11054
  491. # [04:04] <philor> tbsaunde: you'll want to turn down the volume before I start ranting about having to clobber every single time anyone touches anything to do with idl
  492. # [04:04] <jcranmer> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392404
  493. # [04:04] <philor> of course, it may be you, but we're not going to know until after a clobber
  494. # [04:06] <tbsaunde> philor: ugh :/
  495. # [04:06] <philor> nice, first clobber since dz's clobber for the exact same reason at midnight, we made it almost a whole day!
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  498. # [04:07] <tbsaunde> I'm almost tempted to suggest just ditching the whole dep build idea :\
  499. # [04:07] <philor> I'm with you there
  500. # [04:07] <philor> they don't build on try, and tree rules say if it doesn't build on try, it doesn't fly
  501. # [04:09] <philor> "why would that be Windows-only?," he asked, pretending to think that the others would say they were clobbers if they were clobbers
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  503. # [04:09] <Waldo> try builds are always clobbers, aren't they?
  504. # [04:10] <philor> they are
  505. # [04:10] <Waldo> which is the problem here
  506. # [04:10] <philor> dep builds don't run on try, making them unacceptable
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  509. # [04:11] <philor> tbsaunde: so, same deal as dz - I clobbered and retriggered, now I'm going to back you out, and if the retriggered clobber is green, reland after both touching /CLOBBER and setting a clobber with the clobberer, and be sure to swear a lot while doing it
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  511. # [04:16] * philor is pretty sure this clobbering Groundhog Day is going to end with him getting Andie MacDowell, though
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  518. # [04:20] <philor> hmm, what's that typeaheadfind failure in bc?
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  523. # [04:23] <philor> and what are these Windows reftest failures all down the page?
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  525. # [04:23] <philor> and where is my treestatus?
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  528. # [04:24] <philor> and are there any words I can type after "Bustage" in the treestatus closed textbox which will not give me autocomplete?
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  531. # [04:24] <aja> philor: ...It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be grey, and it's gonna last you for the rest of your life.
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  535. # [04:25] <philor> oh, that's a naughty jimm, fixing win8 by breaking win7
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  540. # [04:31] <philor> and will no one rid me of this turbulent webrtc?
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  552. # [04:44] <tbsaunde> philor: sorry :\
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  554. # [04:45] <philor> tbsaunde: no worries, it may well be that none of it is your fault
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  563. # [04:51] <philor> and once things clear up, I've only got 13 new intermittents to file before I can file on the too-frequent need to clobber
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  576. # [05:00] <ewong> I'm building c-c, but I"m getting this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2210874 am I missing a change in a makefile?
  577. # [05:01] <Callek> ewong: huh are you meaning to build with breakpad enabled?
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  579. # [05:02] <Callek> or did some make it required now, and we should back them out?
  580. # [05:02] <ewong> Callek I've not touched my .mozconfig, which doesn't have breakpad enabled.. (unless it's on default)
  581. # [05:02] <ewong> s/default/default now/
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  583. # [05:05] <philor> there's some bug from the last two days, has something like "dependency on breakpad" in the summary
  584. # [05:05] * @bz wishes he could needinfo >2 people at once easily.
  585. # [05:05] * philor reads bugmail and #bugs rather casually
  586. # [05:06] <Callek> bz: my magic trick, is to go to top-of-bug and do teh set-flag, and then comma works there
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  588. # [05:06] <Callek> at least it did before 4.2
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  591. # [05:07] <philor> if someone's waiting on inbound, feel free to shout when the tip push gets a green bc
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  601. # [05:13] <ewong> hmmm bug 850089?
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  608. # [05:23] <philor> oopsie, that last merge from inbound broke asan
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  610. # [05:24] <philor> decoder: sorry!
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  612. # [05:25] <philor> sweet, burnt win64 too, that was a good one
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  615. # [05:26] <philor> "Unsupported platform" - someone's a cruel bastard after my own heart
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  619. # [05:29] <philor> oh, same thing, sewardj_++ :)
  620. # [05:29] * karl wonders why nspr logging doesn't work during mochitest and then discovers NSPR_LOG_MODULES overwritten with signaling:5,mtransport:3
  621. # [05:30] <philor> oh, they *overwrote*?
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  623. # [05:32] <karl> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/86c4d6a9775a
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  626. # [05:35] <philor> inbound's open, though I'll surely regret it
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  634. # [05:42] <njn> darktrojan: I don't understand your latest blog post
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  636. # [05:42] <darktrojan> boo
  637. # [05:42] <njn> darktrojan: there's clearly a gap between FF13 and FF17, but since I don't know what that graph is showing it doesn't help much
  638. # [05:42] <darktrojan> look at the 13 line over time
  639. # [05:43] <darktrojan> (I also hate that graph)
  640. # [05:43] <njn> darktrojan: what does the graph represent?
  641. # [05:43] <njn> I can see FF13 is growing, but I don't konw what it means
  642. # [05:43] <darktrojan> it means for some reason more and more people are using my addon on firefox 13
  643. # [05:43] <darktrojan> and I have no idea why
  644. # [05:44] <njn> darktrojan: so the graph represents users of an add-on of yours?
  645. # [05:45] <darktrojan> correct
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  647. # [05:45] <njn> darktrojan: you should explain that in the post
  648. # [05:47] <darktrojan> well the title kinda almost says that
  649. # [05:47] <darktrojan> meh, I only posted it for a quick laugh anyway
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  651. # [05:49] <njn> darktrojan: this is feedback from a reader who didn't understand what you wrote
  652. # [05:49] <njn> darktrojan: take this as an opportunity to understand how what you wrote was unclear
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  656. # [05:54] <darktrojan> there
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  662. # [05:59] <Hughman> what is the best product/component for a select box crash?
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  665. # [05:59] <rnewman> anyone know why the Profiler is failing to build on Android? error: undefined reference to 'google_breakpad::Module::~Module()
  666. # [05:59] <njn> darktrojan: better
  667. # [05:59] <rnewman> etc. etc.
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  690. # [06:10] <philor> rnewman: bug 850089
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  692. # [06:11] <philor> also for your local --disable-crashreporter desktop build, and your ASan build, and your Win64 build
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  697. # [06:14] <ewong> yup.. --disable-crashreporter desktop build here..
  698. # [06:15] <rnewman> thanks, philor
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  702. # [06:19] <rnewman> ah, "a real bear to get landed".
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  713. # [06:31] <markh> no firebot!
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  724. # [06:39] <philor> boy, 17 sure was a good stable test-passing branch, wonder what happened between there and 18
  725. # [06:39] <philor> b2g: got any idea?
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  744. # [07:03] <rnewman> build still breaks without --disable-crashreporter
  745. # [07:04] * rnewman clobbers, waits another hour
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  748. # [07:05] <rnewman> I am somehow resisting my urge to swear, both at the world in general and people who land features that break builds and then don't back them out
  749. # [07:05] <rnewman> it'll pass, I'm sure
  750. # [07:05] <philor> I always find that it does
  751. # [07:05] <philor> oh, wait, you *did* mean that the resistance will pass, didn't you?
  752. # [07:05] <rnewman> heh
  753. # [07:06] <rnewman> if the build is still broken after wasting two hours of my life, I will swear *and* back out that bug
  754. # [07:06] <rnewman> OH FFS
  755. # [07:06] <rnewman> 0:06.95 configure: error: Breakpad tools do not support compiling on Darwin while targeting Linux. Use --disable-crashreporter.
  756. # [07:07] <rnewman> that is: we can't build Fennec on a Mac, which is our supported build config?
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  758. # [07:11] <philor> wow, I thought that was busted years ago
  759. # [07:12] <rnewman> I find it hilarious that the solution to this bustage is the thing that configure warns isn't supported
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  763. # [07:15] <rnewman> ted: what's your ETA on a fix for bug 779291?
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  783. # [07:28] <rnewman> well, that's depressing
  784. # [07:29] <rnewman> doesn't build with a backout
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  856. # [08:39] <@dolske> judging by the time, singing Soft Kitty to philor|away as he falls asleep.
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  898. # [09:22] <ewong> just to clarify.. when I star an orange.. do I also copy the orange link to the bug? i.e. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20555223&tree=Mozilla-Inbound ?
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  901. # [09:24] <ewong> or does the tinderbot do the 'add the link' to the comment? itlooks like it does.. but I don't know if it does it to every single comment I make?
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  909. # [09:29] <Ms2ger> ewong, if you pick one of the suggested bugs, tbplbot will comment on that bug
  910. # [09:29] <ewong> Ms2ger: ah thanks!
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  912. # [09:30] <ewong> it's when I file a bug that I need to do that first, right? and add 'intermittent' in the keyword? (or was it summary?)
  913. # [09:30] <Ms2ger> intermittent-failure in the keywords, iirc
  914. # [09:30] <ewong> Ms2ger: ok.. thanks!
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  926. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> gcp, what's the weather like over there?
  927. # [09:35] <gcp> snowy
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  936. # [09:36] <Ms2ger> Bah
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  939. # [09:36] <gcp> 1600km traffic jams
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  942. # [09:38] <Ms2ger> Fortunately all the trains are on time ;)
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  972. # [10:05] <reuben> are the hundreds of "Error: Unable to restore focus, expect failures and timeouts." expected in b2g mochitests?
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  1006. # [10:54] <Cork> anyone around that could take a look at a clammed 0-day report dumped in #firefox? (the user joined dumped it and quit)
  1007. # [10:55] <@dbaron> Cork, could you put it in a bug for people who weren't in #firefox at the time?
  1008. # [10:56] <Cork> dbaron: you mean just grab the log, i'm not sure if its even worth anything
  1009. # [10:56] <Unfocused> bugs are cheap
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  1011. # [10:56] <Cork> ok
  1012. # [10:56] <Cork> a security bug?
  1013. # [10:56] <@dbaron> probably, yes
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  1016. # [10:58] <Cork> dbaron: done #850149
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  1021. # [11:02] <glandium> Cork: that "report" is ... how to put it ... wtf?
  1022. # [11:03] <Cork> glandium: yes, i know
  1023. # [11:03] <Cork> thats why i asked if anyone could take a look at it
  1024. # [11:04] <Cork> glandium: but as it clammes 0-day i didn't just want to f-it
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  1026. # [11:05] <glandium> Cork: claims 4 0-days
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  1029. # [11:06] <glandium> and nothing besides what could be called taglines
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  1033. # [11:07] <Cork> glandium: feel free to mark it invalid if you like, it goes a bit over my head
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  1035. # [11:08] <glandium> there might be some truth hidden in there, but i can't make much sense of it. maybe someone with a h4xx0r dictionary would have a clue
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  1039. # [11:11] <Ms2ger> mozilla::net::nsMediaFragmentURIParser, eh
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  1056. # [11:25] <tbsaunde> so, smaug isn't aren't who else knows about type ahead find?
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  1058. # [11:25] <glandium> Ms2ger: why 850153 ?
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  1060. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> khuey suggested filing a bug whenever we needed to touch the CLOBBER file
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  1062. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> So I thought I'd give him one :)
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  1064. # [11:26] <glandium> i'm curious why
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  1066. # [11:27] <Ms2ger> Presumably because he wants dep builds to actually work?
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  1075. # [11:33] <glandium> Ms2ger: having a bug for each time it happens is not going to make thing magically better.
  1076. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> Sure
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  1078. # [11:34] <glandium> and we already know what most problems are
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  1096. # [11:58] <tbsaunde> smaug: any idea why browser.xml forces creation of a taf object on page hide? (toolkit/content/widget/browser.xml:561)
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  1101. # [12:07] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: creator missed a trick here: http://cdn.gagbay.com/2013/03/its_gotta_be_one_of_those-247468.jpg
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  1105. # [12:15] <@smaug> tbsaunde: no idea
  1106. # [12:15] <@smaug> sounds odd
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  1109. # [12:23] <NeilAway> smaug: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7114652928/h62849EEB/
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  1111. # [12:25] <@smaug> :)
  1112. # [12:25] <Unfocused> hah
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  1129. # [12:37] <tbsaunde> kk/win 29
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  1163. # [13:22] <@smaug> end of the world, running out of coffee
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  1166. # [13:27] <nigelb> oh no!
  1167. # [13:27] <nigelb> smaug: If you live in the US, you should set up an Amazon subscription for it.
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  1174. # [13:34] <RyanVM> mmm, I love when edmorley takes PTO
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  1179. # [13:40] <kk1fff> hi, I am trying to implement an IDL (with a function takes jsval argument) in C++, but there's another implementation of this IDL in JS, can I retrieve data of the jsval without declaring implicit_jscontext?
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  1181. # [13:42] <@smaug> nigelb: luckily I live quite far away from the US :p But I could walk about 50 meters and buy some more coffee.
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  1261. # [14:42] <JosiahOne_> This is the proper format for creating a function that takes in a variable right?
  1262. # [14:42] <JosiahOne_> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2211871
  1263. # [14:43] <db48x> that's perfectly fine javascript, yes
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  1265. # [14:43] <db48x> containing a property declaration on an object literal, whose value is a function of one argument
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  1268. # [14:43] <db48x> although as a human I object to the function name, since sometimes it decrements :)
  1269. # [14:43] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Right, I just call it with "gHistorySwipeAnimation.incrementHistoryIndex(1);"
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  1271. # [14:44] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Yeah, I am going to change it. But something is breaking, I don't think there though.
  1272. # [14:44] <db48x> yep, that'll probably work
  1273. # [14:44] <JosiahOne_> It's probably elsewhere.
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  1276. # [14:44] * JosiahOne_ Notes that JS is real annoying when you have a problem in it.
  1277. # [14:45] <db48x> hmm. I disagree
  1278. # [14:45] <db48x> but what's your specific scenario?
  1279. # [14:45] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Bug 817074, adding animations when pressing back and forward buttons, everything is done in Javascript. I actually like it, except when there is an error, and then the entire browser breaks.
  1280. # [14:46] <JosiahOne_> Even if I am just missing a ";" or something.
  1281. # [14:46] <db48x> ah, well
  1282. # [14:47] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Does this look fine? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2211872
  1283. # [14:48] <db48x> syntax looks ok, but the code screams out for a state machine
  1284. # [14:49] <db48x> I see at least four states right there
  1285. # [14:49] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Examples?
  1286. # [14:50] <db48x> uninitialized, resting, animating, unsupported
  1287. # [14:51] <db48x> with transitions from uninitialied to both resting (not currently animated) and unsupported
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  1289. # [14:51] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Ah, yes. Perhaps, but for now that's okay. I am just trying to find whatever I broke. I am updating my patch, it worked before...
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  1291. # [14:52] <JosiahOne_> Looks like this file is fine though.
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  1293. # [14:52] <db48x> I take it there aren't any interesting exceptions in the javascript console, or on the console coneole?
  1294. # [14:53] <JosiahOne_> db48x: I wouldn't know. Error Console doesn't work if the browser breaks.
  1295. # [14:53] <db48x> run firefox -console
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  1297. # [14:53] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Run it where?
  1298. # [14:53] <db48x> I think you'd also need a console reporter that calls dump()
  1299. # [14:53] <db48x> from the command line
  1300. # [14:54] <JosiahOne_> db48x: But in a certain place? Says firefox doesn't exist.
  1301. # [14:54] <JosiahOne_> db48x: "-bash: firefox: command not found"
  1302. # [14:54] <db48x> then it's not in your path, and you need to either navigate to the right place (your objdir) and run ./firefox, or specify the path on the command line
  1303. # [14:55] <db48x> ~/objdirs/thisbuild/stuff/firefox -console
  1304. # [14:55] <NeilAway> also -jsconsole
  1305. # [14:55] <JosiahOne_> Alright.
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  1308. # [14:56] <db48x> NeilAway: I suppose that works
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  1311. # [14:56] <db48x> writing your own console reporter is more fun
  1312. # [14:56] <ted> "fun"
  1313. # [14:56] <ted> db48x: huh, i haven't seen you around in a while
  1314. # [14:56] <ted> have you been here and just quiet?
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  1316. # [14:56] <db48x> haven't been around nearly as often
  1317. # [14:56] <db48x> I had to get a real job
  1318. # [14:56] <ted> ah
  1319. # [14:56] <ted> bummer
  1320. # [14:56] <ted> where are you at now?
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  1323. # [14:57] <db48x> actually moved to the SF area
  1324. # [14:57] <ted> oh really
  1325. # [14:57] <db48x> been working for APN
  1326. # [14:57] <ted> also i meant employment
  1327. # [14:57] <ted> i don't know what that is
  1328. # [14:58] <db48x> you've no doubt heard of the Ask Toolbar :)
  1329. # [14:58] <JosiahOne_> Curse it. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2211912
  1330. # [14:58] <db48x> oh, you're on a mac
  1331. # [14:58] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Yeah.
  1332. # [14:59] <db48x> haven't used one in a few years
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  1334. # [14:59] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Linux?
  1335. # [14:59] <db48x> yea
  1336. # [14:59] <ted> db48x: oh goodness
  1337. # [15:00] <db48x> as I recall, the easiest thing to do was to launch firefox.app
  1338. # [15:00] <JosiahOne_> Which I have done.
  1339. # [15:00] <db48x> ted: I wrote most of the javascript layer so that the same code works in all browsers
  1340. # [15:00] <db48x> ted: wasn't able to stop them from playing silly buggers with the installer
  1341. # [15:01] <ted> c'est la vie
  1342. # [15:01] <ted> i think we're probably still hiring
  1343. # [15:02] <db48x> the old toolbar did worse things though, at least from a technical perspective
  1344. # [15:03] <ted> true
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  1346. # [15:03] <ted> my personal opinion is "fuck toolbars"
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  1348. # [15:03] <ted> because i've never seen anyone intentionally install one
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  1350. # [15:03] <ted> but i've removed a lot of them
  1351. # [15:03] <db48x> yea
  1352. # [15:03] <JosiahOne_> ted: I'm happy that on OS X I don't get toolbars installed for no apparent reason.
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  1354. # [15:03] <JosiahOne_> On Win it happened ALL THE TIME. So annoying.
  1355. # [15:03] <ted> it's enough to make you want to buy your parents an iPad instead of a computer
  1356. # [15:04] <db48x> monitarily they support a fair number of interesting projects, but I wish we could manage to make some people truely wanted, independantly of those projects
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  1361. # [15:05] <romaxa> glandium: I'm trying to build latest tip on Qt platform (CRASHREPORTER not enabled) and see bunch of errors coming from tools/profiler http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2211941
  1362. # [15:05] <JosiahOne_> db48x: What about this, I know there are issues with the code, I was suppose to address that, but for now I am just looking for things that would cause a break. http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2211942
  1363. # [15:06] <romaxa> glandium: IIUC it is coming from 779291 ?
  1364. # [15:06] <db48x> yea, rewrite it as a state machine
  1365. # [15:06] <ted> romaxa: yeah, there's a bug on that
  1366. # [15:06] <romaxa> ted: BenWa: ^
  1367. # [15:06] <romaxa> oh
  1368. # [15:06] <romaxa> ok
  1369. # [15:06] <ted> romaxa: i'm working on a fix atm
  1370. # [15:06] <ted> someone backed out the sps changes on inbound FWIW
  1371. # [15:06] <db48x> JosiahOne_: more seriously, nothing jumps out at me
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  1376. # [15:07] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Hmm… This is really annoying...
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  1381. # [15:09] <JosiahOne_> Ugh.
  1382. # [15:09] * JosiahOne_ Needs more coffee to get through this pain.
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  1385. # [15:09] <JosiahOne_> Is there a way to compare two diffs?
  1386. # [15:09] <db48x> interdiff
  1387. # [15:10] <JosiahOne_> db48x: What's the syntax?
  1388. # [15:11] <db48x> (of course, diff itself works just fine, but the result will a little harder to decode than interdiff's output)
  1389. # [15:11] <db48x> uh, interdiff patcha patchb?
  1390. # [15:11] <db48x> man interdiff?
  1391. # [15:11] <db48x> info interdiff?
  1392. # [15:12] <JosiahOne_> db48x: I hate man and info. They try to stone me with irrelevant information. Your interdiff patchA patchB is much easier. :)
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  1394. # [15:12] <db48x> heh
  1395. # [15:12] <db48x> I like info
  1396. # [15:13] <db48x> hypertext before it was simply the default that nobody ever thinks about
  1397. # [15:13] <JosiahOne_> Uh oh… No interdiff. Brewing time!
  1398. # [15:13] <padenot> 0/b 16
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  1404. # [15:16] <philor> RyanVM: it burns
  1405. # [15:16] <RyanVM> philor: lies
  1406. # [15:17] <philor> s/burns/burned/
  1407. # [15:17] <RyanVM> heh
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  1409. # [15:17] <RyanVM> you were at *least* 30 seconds late there :P
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  1411. # [15:17] <db48x> JosiahOne_: yea, I don't know why anyone would leave out certain tools wien they design an os
  1412. # [15:18] <JosiahOne_> db48x: ??? I did interdiff, but nothing happened. Where does it place the file? I thought in the same dir.
  1413. # [15:18] <db48x> but it happens to most linux distros too
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  1415. # [15:18] <db48x> it prints to stdout when there is a difference
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  1417. # [15:20] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Isn't there a way to save it to a file?
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  1419. # [15:20] <db48x> sure
  1420. # [15:20] <db48x> interdiff a b > diffs
  1421. # [15:20] <JosiahOne_> Oh… Right...
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  1424. # [15:21] <JosiahOne_> It's been so long since I has to use stdout.
  1425. # [15:21] <JosiahOne_> db48x: It's empty...
  1426. # [15:22] <db48x> yea, you already knew that
  1427. # [15:22] <tbsaunde> k/win 29
  1428. # [15:22] <JosiahOne_> Why in the world is it empty.
  1429. # [15:22] <db48x> well, perhaps there are no differences
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  1431. # [15:23] <db48x> but interdiff is an elegant hack, and it can't always detect differences
  1432. # [15:23] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Wait! I remember, I accidentally overrode my original. Good thing it's still on Bugzilla.
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  1434. # [15:23] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Thanks.
  1435. # [15:23] <db48x> try a regular diff on the two patches; it'll show you what lines in the patches differ, although it can't be smart about it like interdiff
  1436. # [15:23] <db48x> you're welcome
  1437. # [15:24] <JosiahOne_> overrode…overwrote… Probably the later.
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  1439. # [15:25] <db48x> like most eggcorns, it works well enough
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  1453. # [15:31] <JosiahOne_> db48x: And I missed a "}"… Multiple hours spent for that…
  1454. # [15:31] * JosiahOne_ Cries.
  1455. # [15:31] <db48x> ah
  1456. # [15:31] <db48x> could I perhaps suggest a better editor?
  1457. # [15:31] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Sure? If you know of one for OS X?
  1458. # [15:31] <db48x> emacs, with js2-mode
  1459. # [15:32] <db48x> it actually parses the js, using a parser derived from Rhino no less, so it really knows what's going on
  1460. # [15:32] <db48x> and it's not confused by Mozilla's preprocessor directives
  1461. # [15:32] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Sweet.
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  1463. # [15:32] <db48x> should any of those have infected your file
  1464. # [15:32] <RyanVM> anyone in TO around that sits near kats?
  1465. # [15:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: philor planning to close inbound, or am I safe to trigger clobbers?
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  1467. # [15:33] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: ?
  1468. # [15:33] <JosiahOne_> db48x: So this: http://emacsformacosx.com/
  1469. # [15:33] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I want to land a patch that appears to need clobbering
  1470. # [15:33] <RyanVM> not sure why you'd need to close to do that
  1471. # [15:33] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: see last commetns in bug 825341
  1472. # [15:33] <RyanVM> just clobber and push
  1473. # [15:34] <RyanVM> (and I'm assuming you updated CLOBBER)
  1474. # [15:34] <db48x> probably. just don't use aquamacs
  1475. # [15:34] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: no, I was trying to avoid hitting clobber, and then you closing the tree before I push
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  1477. # [15:34] <db48x> the version number is right, certainly
  1478. # [15:34] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Why?
  1479. # [15:34] <db48x> it's ancient, they made bad choices way back in the day, etc, etc
  1480. # [15:34] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: if your push requires a clobber, you need to update CLOBBER
  1481. # [15:34] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Ah, alright.
  1482. # [15:34] <RyanVM> otherwise we'll just break when we merge to m-c
  1483. # [15:34] <RyanVM> and from m-c to every other dependent branch
  1484. # [15:34] <db48x> 24.3 was released just the other day, so that's heartening
  1485. # [15:35] <JosiahOne_> Oh my goodness… It's still broken!!!!!!!!
  1486. # [15:35] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I know / got that
  1487. # [15:35] <db48x> http://code.google.com/p/js2-mode/
  1488. # [15:35] <db48x> JosiahOne_: :(
  1489. # [15:35] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: oh, I misread what you said
  1490. # [15:35] <RyanVM> sorry
  1491. # [15:35] <RyanVM> yeah, go for it
  1492. # [15:35] <RyanVM> though I do need to chat with kats
  1493. # [15:36] <RyanVM> WTF, where's firebot?
  1494. # [15:36] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: np
  1495. # [15:36] <JosiahOne_> RyanVM: Offline on all rooms.
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  1497. # [15:37] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: ping
  1498. # [15:38] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, pong
  1499. # [15:38] <philor> tbsaunde: oh, you already fixed the typeaheadfind thing?
  1500. # [15:38] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: I can't help but notice that Android 2.2 opt rc1 hasn't been green since kats' push (your r+)
  1501. # [15:39] <RyanVM> though I think jwatt is actually on the hook
  1502. # [15:39] <RyanVM> hmm
  1503. # [15:40] <RyanVM> jwatt: ping
  1504. # [15:40] * jwatt looks
  1505. # [15:40] <RyanVM> jwatt: bug 768459 seems to be perma-fail since your push
  1506. # [15:40] <RyanVM> on 2.2 opt
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  1509. # [15:41] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, so I'm off the hook? :)
  1510. # [15:41] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Wait, I think I got it.
  1511. # [15:41] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: I think so (for now :P )
  1512. # [15:42] <JosiahOne_> db48x: So this js2 thing, how do I install it?
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  1514. # [15:42] <tbsaunde> philor: yeah, it was easy I deleted to totally useless lines of dead code
  1515. # [15:42] <db48x> http://code.google.com/p/js2-mode/wiki/InstallationInstructions
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  1518. # [15:42] <tbsaunde> (they were left over from a attempt to fix something else in a different way)
  1519. # [15:42] <db48x> actually
  1520. # [15:43] <db48x> there's a slightly better fork on github if you want to take the time to find it
  1521. # [15:43] <mcsmurf> mak: hi, just saw your feedback in Bug 834498, thanks for that; still, one question about "yield"
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  1523. # [15:43] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Well, this looks okay for now.
  1524. # [15:44] <jwatt> RyanVM, Cwiiis: can't imagine how I could have caused that
  1525. # [15:44] <db48x> yea
  1526. # [15:44] <db48x> https://github.com/mooz/js2-mode, should you decide you like it
  1527. # [15:44] <mcsmurf> mak: so when I want to block in a check() function with yield promiseBla, I also need to "yield" on the call to the check function?
  1528. # [15:44] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, jwatt, is there a tbpl link?
  1529. # [15:44] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20565893&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  1530. # [15:44] <jwatt> Cwiiis: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound and search for "jwatt"
  1531. # [15:44] <JosiahOne_> db48x: \0/ It's alive! I think I should go throw a party.
  1532. # [15:45] <jwatt> Cwiiis: and then look up the runs since then
  1533. # [15:45] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: take your pick of any of the android 2.2 opt rc1 oranges from jwatt on
  1534. # [15:45] <db48x> :) sometimes that's exactly the right response
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  1536. # [15:45] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: jwatt: and pretend for a second that our robocop tests aren't a steaming pile of fail anyway
  1537. # [15:45] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Thanks a lot for your help. You can come to my party. But the party will only last 10 minutes, so you have less than that time to fly to Michigan. :)
  1538. # [15:46] <db48x> you're welcome :)
  1539. # [15:46] <jwatt> RyanVM, Cwiiis: the only changeset of mine that has even the remotest chance of being able to affect that is 6e993ef95ad7
  1540. # [15:46] <db48x> imbibe something for me
  1541. # [15:47] <JosiahOne_> db48x: Alright. Thanks again.
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  1543. # [15:47] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, right, that's far more likely to be kats's push than jwatt's
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  1545. # [15:48] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: which isn't very reassuring since that one failed for a different reason
  1546. # [15:48] <RyanVM> though I've got a retrigger going on it
  1547. # [15:48] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, we're talking about the robocop testAxisLock test failing, right?
  1548. # [15:48] * RyanVM wishes kats was on IRC
  1549. # [15:48] <RyanVM> yes
  1550. # [15:48] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, he is, just not this channel
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  1552. # [15:49] <jwatt> tada
  1553. # [15:49] <Cwiiis> magic
  1554. # [15:49] <RyanVM> oh hai
  1555. # [15:49] <kats> hello
  1556. # [15:49] <kats> i hear i may have broken stuff
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  1558. # [15:49] <RyanVM> looks like you made bug 768459 near perma
  1559. # [15:50] <kats> looking
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  1566. # [15:54] <NeilAway> !seen firebot
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  1572. # [15:57] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: no, you want !summan firebot
  1573. # [15:57] <JosiahOne_> tbsaunde: ? You mean !summon firebot.
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  1578. # [16:00] <tbsaunde> JosiahOne_: yeah
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  1581. # [16:00] <JosiahOne_> tbsaunde: :)
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  1596. # [16:06] <RyanVM> kats: any luck?
  1597. # [16:06] <kats> RyanVM: still looking. probably best to back out for now
  1598. # [16:06] <kats> these failures are hard to debug
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  1600. # [16:07] <kats> RyanVM: do you want me to back out, or will you?
  1601. # [16:07] <RyanVM> kats: backing out now
  1602. # [16:07] <kats> thanks
  1603. # [16:07] <RyanVM> yep
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  1614. # [16:10] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: ping
  1615. # [16:10] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: a good ping I think
  1616. # [16:11] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: oh?
  1617. # [16:11] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: looks like you made test_1.html assert less now :)
  1618. # [16:11] <RyanVM> problem is, you didn't annotate it as such :P
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  1620. # [16:11] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: oh, huh thought I did get that
  1621. # [16:12] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: want me to fix?
  1622. # [16:12] <RyanVM> already doing so :)
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  1624. # [16:12] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: thx!
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  1626. # [16:13] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: one question
  1627. # [16:13] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: yes?
  1628. # [16:13] <RyanVM> the test is currently annoted such that mac is 0-3 assertions and !mac is 3
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  1631. # [16:14] <RyanVM> assuming mac should still be 0-1
  1632. # [16:14] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I believe so
  1633. # [16:14] <RyanVM> ok
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  1635. # [16:15] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I don't have a mac, so I'm not very sure, but I think I'll be fixing the other assert soon so shouldn't matter much
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  1638. # [16:15] <RyanVM> nice :)
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  1654. # [16:22] <darkowlzz> mounir: ping!
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  1665. # [16:30] <philor> ehsan: bc bustage on birch
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  1667. # [16:30] <@ehsan> philor: looking
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  1670. # [16:32] <jdm> oof, so orange
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  1674. # [16:33] <jdm> ehsan:that's from bug 844561
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  1677. # [16:34] <jdm> probably need to hide stuff behind an #ifdef
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  1679. # [16:34] <@ehsan> jdm: I'm filing the bug :)
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  1682. # [16:35] <@ehsan> jdm: hopefully this will be the last of these #ifdef's :)
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  1692. # [16:40] <@ehsan> jdm: MOZ_PER_WINDOW_PRIVATE_BROWSING
  1693. # [16:40] <jdm> ta
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  1714. # [16:53] <Waldo> hmm, whither firebot?
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  1717. # [16:54] <JosiahOne_> Waldo: Firebot died. Someone forgot to update it's firmware.
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  1719. # [16:54] <Waldo> so it goes
  1720. # [16:54] <JosiahOne_> Waldo: But seriously, I don't think anyone knows. It's offline on all rooms.
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  1722. # [16:56] <lsblakk> bjacob: bug 843273 -- can you get that landed to central (or checkin-needed) and nominate for aurora/beta uplift please? would like that to get in to today's beta build
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  1727. # [16:59] <RyanVM> MattN: ping
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  1732. # [17:01] <bjacob> lsblakk: ah yes ok, sorry
  1733. # [17:01] <till> lsblakk: when is the beta build going to be started?
  1734. # [17:01] <lsblakk> till: i'm just rounding up the herd now
  1735. # [17:01] <lsblakk> so when the last bug lands +3-4 hours
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  1737. # [17:01] <lsblakk> till: ideally EOD pacific time today
  1738. # [17:01] <lsblakk> sooner is always better :)
  1739. # [17:02] <till> lsblakk: make sense :)
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  1741. # [17:02] <till> lsblakk: I'm asking because I'm waiting on a review for a patch I'd very much like to land on beta
  1742. # [17:02] <lsblakk> till: bug #?
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  1746. # [17:03] <till> lsblakk: bug 787927
  1747. # [17:03] <till> lsblakk: jimb isn't online yet, will bug him once he is
  1748. # [17:03] <till> lsblakk: oh, and I want to land that because it fixes bug 844406
  1749. # [17:03] <@smaug> clobber again o_O
  1750. # [17:03] <@khuey> jimb is at the devtools work week
  1751. # [17:04] <@smaug> could we please stop clobbering
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  1753. # [17:04] <@khuey> don't know how much time he's spending online
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  1755. # [17:04] <Waldo> jimb is in Mountain View! \o/
  1756. # [17:04] <lsblakk> till: ok, since it's not tracked i would go to build on beta without it so ping me when you've nommed it for approval to help me get to it today (just in case it's not in my triage checks)
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  1758. # [17:04] <@khuey> Waldo: sunnyvale, I believe
  1759. # [17:04] <RyanVM> smaug: lol, there's already another needs-clobber on inbound
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  1761. # [17:05] <Waldo> hmm, I'm not sure which hotel they're in
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  1765. # [17:05] <till> lsblakk: it should be in your checks, but I'll make sure to ping you, yes
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  1770. # [17:05] <ted> Waldo: the Domain?
  1771. # [17:05] <till> Waldo, khuey: so my chances of getting that review might not be that great, then?
  1772. # [17:05] <ted> i think i saw someone mention that
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  1774. # [17:06] <@khuey> ted: yeah that's where they are
  1775. # [17:06] <@khuey> till: *shrug*
  1776. # [17:06] * @khuey has no idea
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  1780. # [17:06] * till is asking silly questions, sorry
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  1782. # [17:07] <Waldo> ted: hmm, are we not doing Avante as much these days? Domain seems kind distancy for not too much reason
  1783. # [17:07] <ted> the facilities at the Domain were pretty nice
  1784. # [17:07] <ted> had an offsite day there at a work week recently
  1785. # [17:07] <ted> (but didn't stay there)
  1786. # [17:07] <Waldo> JS did too, in October
  1787. # [17:07] <Waldo> it seemed fine enough, not remarkable one way or the other
  1788. # [17:07] <ted> does Avante have meeting rooms?
  1789. # [17:07] <Waldo> dunno
  1790. # [17:08] <bjacob> avante is fairly small so i wouldnt bet on it
  1791. # [17:08] <Waldo> I think I've only been in there once to pick up a cell phone jimb accidentally left in his room once :-)
  1792. # [17:08] <Waldo> nice little 15min break
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  1797. # [17:08] <Waldo> there's also the Hilton just before Avante, that looked like it was bigger-ish, but I dunno if we've ever used it
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  1799. # [17:10] <ted> the whole offsite thing is kind of depressing
  1800. # [17:10] <ted> "we are coming to the office but we can't work in the office because we don't have enough space"
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  1805. # [17:12] <RattyAway> !seen bholley
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  1809. # [17:13] <Waldo> he was in Mountain View yesterday, fwiw
  1810. # [17:13] <Waldo> might be a little early now to expect him around
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  1812. # [17:13] <RattyAway> ah soo thanks
  1813. # [17:13] <@khuey> ted: well once we have our big office in corporate-office-park-land it won't be a problem!
  1814. # [17:13] <till> Waldo: Avante only has a very small meeting room, IIRC
  1815. # [17:13] <Waldo> eit
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  1820. # [17:14] <RattyAway> Waldo: would that also apply to jorendorff or bz ?
  1821. # [17:14] <ted> khuey: whee
  1822. # [17:14] * ted is excited to have a bigger office, but depressed at the location
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  1824. # [17:14] <ted> i always hated the location of landings
  1825. # [17:14] <RattyAway> is it a corner office?
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  1827. # [17:14] <ted> i guess it's only a bit over a mile back to castro st
  1828. # [17:14] <ted> so not completely unwalkable
  1829. # [17:14] <Waldo> RattyAway: jorendorff may not be around, I hear something came up that might make some of this week funky
  1830. # [17:14] <ted> dunno what that road looks like though
  1831. # [17:15] <RattyAway> oh well thanks
  1832. # [17:15] <Waldo> RattyAway: bz...is bz, so I will make no guesses there :-)
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  1834. # [17:15] <mwu> back to landings?
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  1838. # [17:15] <ted> mwu: i mean, a bit over a mile from the proposed new office location to castro st
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  1840. # [17:16] <Waldo> ted: Evelyn's one lane each way, not a huge amount of traffic, sidewalk along the south side, fine enough for walking
  1841. # [17:16] <mwu> mm
  1842. # [17:16] <ted> just saying that i hated that landings was in the middle of nowhere
  1843. # [17:16] <ted> couldn't walk to a hotel or a restaurant or anything
  1844. # [17:16] <mwu> I dunno, I liked that spot
  1845. # [17:16] <mwu> but I was an intern
  1846. # [17:16] <ted> why?
  1847. # [17:17] <Waldo> aside from the left off Charleston onto Rengstorff, I was mostly fine with Landings
  1848. # [17:17] <Waldo> that intersection was horrible because there really wasn't a bike sensor for that left turn
  1849. # [17:17] <ted> RattyAway: not exactly a corner, but my office has a pretty nice view: http://imgur.com/N7KgLVd
  1850. # [17:17] <Waldo> and at the time I didn't know that that meant the traffic light was defective, and I could just make the left on red (when safe, of course)
  1851. # [17:18] <RattyAway> bz: so is dom.xbl_scopes going to be a temporary pref until the XBL Scopes is found to be working reliably or going forward can I depend on this to tell if scopes is enabled.
  1852. # [17:18] <Waldo> sometimes made the left anyway, sometimes waited for cars
  1853. # [17:18] <Waldo> depended on time of day
  1854. # [17:18] <mounir> darkowlzz: pong
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  1856. # [17:18] <@bz> RattyAway: It's temporary
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  1858. # [17:18] <@bz> RattyAway: at some point xbl scopes will just be enabled always
  1859. # [17:18] <RattyAway> essentially my extension would like to check and behave differently if scopes is enabled.
  1860. # [17:19] <@bz> RattyAway: note that "scopes enabled" doesn't necessarily mean that XBL always has a separate scope
  1861. # [17:19] <Waldo> huh, Landings re-roofed away from those bright blue roofs
  1862. # [17:19] <RattyAway> bz: yarg but I need to be backward compatible for a while
  1863. # [17:19] <@bz> RattyAway: may I ask why?
  1864. # [17:19] <Waldo> wonder why
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  1868. # [17:19] <@bz> RattyAway: Because if you have to worry about this, that sounds like a bug in the new setup....
  1869. # [17:19] <@bz> RattyAway: since backwards compat for extensions was a more or less explicit design goal
  1870. # [17:20] * Waldo wonders if it's something crazy like ChatZilla having to work back to Mozilla 1.0 or something
  1871. # [17:20] <@bz> RattyAway: (modulo cases when the extension was insecure, of course)
  1872. # [17:20] <RattyAway> bz: currently flashblock thinks that if content javascript is disabled it won't function so disables it's UI toolbar button
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  1874. # [17:20] <Waldo> although I hear that requirement got updated to something like 1.4 or something negligibly less crazy
  1875. # [17:20] <darkowlzz> mounir , bz https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844127#c14
  1876. # [17:20] <RattyAway> but of course with xbl scopes my content xbl still works.
  1877. # [17:21] <@bz> RattyAway: can you have the content XBL constructor fire an event that enables the UI toolbar button?
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  1880. # [17:21] <RattyAway> bz: hrm good idea!
  1881. # [17:21] <@bz> RattyAway: which will therefore get fired if and only if the content XBL script is running
  1882. # [17:21] <@bz> RattyAway: or something along those lines
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  1885. # [17:21] <@bz> darkowlzz: yes, was going to look in a bit
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  1887. # [17:21] <@bz> darkowlzz: Was off on Friday, and catching up on mail yesterday. :(
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  1892. # [17:23] <darkowlzz> bz np, can you elaborate on what annevk's recommendation mean? leave a comment
  1893. # [17:24] <annevk> darkowlzz: it means to flip the boolean in the test
  1894. # [17:24] <darkowlzz> :) hi
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  1897. # [17:24] <annevk> hey hey, thanks for writing a patch :)
  1898. # [17:24] <darkowlzz> annevk: which boolean?
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  1901. # [17:25] <we11ington> roc: I could be misunderstanding the source but I don't think that nsIContent provides a way to add/remove a class, just GetClasses
  1902. # [17:25] <annevk> darkowlzz: the test that fails checks that "<bgsound> is an instance of HTMLUnknownElement"
  1903. # [17:25] <annevk> darkowlzz: it expects that to be false, but you made it true
  1904. # [17:25] <we11ington> roc: Also for context of the question: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846929
  1905. # [17:26] <annevk> darkowlzz: we want it to be true now, so we should update the test to reflect that
  1906. # [17:26] <darkowlzz> oh! understood :D
  1907. # [17:26] <annevk> cool
  1908. # [17:26] <ted> BenWa: ping
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  1920. # [17:29] <darkowlzz> annevk: thanks. Recompiling now :)
  1921. # [17:30] <darkowlzz> BTW is it true that these testing and compilation can be done on Mozilla's servers which are faster
  1922. # [17:30] <darkowlzz> fast compared to my netbook
  1923. # [17:30] <darkowlzz> :/
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  1928. # [17:32] <Waldo> hah
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  1931. # [17:32] <darkowlzz> annevk: cool! B-)
  1932. # [17:32] <@bz> darkowlzz: it's possible to use try for that
  1933. # [17:32] <@bz> darkowlzz: but the latency might kill you.
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  1935. # [17:33] <@bz> darkowlzz: In practice, the tradeoff for me is that I compile locally but run tests on try
  1936. # [17:33] <@bz> (because running tests locally is such a complete PITA)
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  1939. # [17:35] <we11ington> Mossop: ping
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  1941. # [17:36] <@bz> darkowlzz: you there?
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  1947. # [17:38] <darkowlzz> back :D
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  1949. # [17:38] <darkowlzz> bz: what about compiling on server? any good compared to compiling on a netbook?
  1950. # [17:39] <@bz> darkowlzz: like I said, latency might kill you
  1951. # [17:39] <@bz> In any case, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844127#c16
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  1953. # [17:40] <glandium> bz: "running tests locally is such a complete PITA", even with mach?
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  1959. # [17:42] <@khuey> hmm
  1960. # [17:42] <@khuey> do we have a mozilla-facebook-discuss?
  1961. # [17:42] <@khuey> or equivalent channel for communicating with them?
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  1963. # [17:43] <@bz> glandium: the run mechanism is irrelevant
  1964. # [17:43] <ted> i always just tag shaver or sdwilsh in a facebook post :-(
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  1966. # [17:43] <@bz> glandium: the fact that the tests have to have focus is relevant
  1967. # [17:43] <ted> their feedback mechanisms suck
  1968. # [17:43] <ted> or are non-existent
  1969. # [17:44] <@bz> khuey: not to my knowledge (though I've suggested on in the past)
  1970. # [17:44] <darkowlzz> bz: yes, the paste is with the same attachment
  1971. # [17:44] <darkowlzz> annevk: something really bad happened
  1972. # [17:44] <glandium> bz: ah. mac?
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  1975. # [17:44] <darkowlzz> Now there are more than 200 errors
  1976. # [17:44] <@bz> glandium: all OSes
  1977. # [17:44] <@bz> glandium: the tests just time out if not running focused
  1978. # [17:45] <annevk> darkowlzz: because you modified the test?
  1979. # [17:45] <@bz> glandium: because a bunch of them wait for focus
  1980. # [17:45] <glandium> bz: you can more easily cheat on linux
  1981. # [17:45] <annevk> bz: why should the test results not change?
  1982. # [17:45] <@bz> glandium: with Xnest, sure
  1983. # [17:45] <darkowlzz> yes, false to true
  1984. # [17:45] <@bz> annevk: his patch changes the test
  1985. # [17:45] <@bz> darkowlzz: you have a build with that patch?
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  1990. # [17:46] <darkowlzz> bz: yes, I rebuilt it
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  1993. # [17:46] <@bz> darkowlzz: OK, start that build
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  1995. # [17:46] <darkowlzz> but didn't do |rm -r obj...|
  1996. # [17:46] <@bz> darkowlzz: open up the web console on some random page
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  1998. # [17:47] <@bz> and type "document.createElement('bgsound')"
  1999. # [17:47] <@bz> What does it say about the return value in your build?
  2000. # [17:47] <darkowlzz> object HTMLUnknownElement
  2001. # [17:48] <annevk> bz: my bad, the HTML_TAG() formatting made me think it was something else
  2002. # [17:48] <@bz> ok
  2003. # [17:48] <@bz> So why does the test fail?
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  2010. # [17:50] <lsblakk> till: just remembered that your bug is blocking a tracked bug - will definitely keep an eye out :)
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  2013. # [17:50] <annevk> darkowlzz: bz: test has a comment about "nsIDOMHTMLSpanElement" which seems suspicious
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  2015. # [17:51] <annevk> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/test/test_bug389797.html?raw=1
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  2018. # [17:51] <@bz> That part shouldn't be an issue
  2019. # [17:52] <@bz> The part that confuses me is this:
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  2023. # [17:53] <@bz> 73370 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/content/html/content/test/test_bug389797.html | <bgsound> is an instance of HTMLUnknownElement - got true, expected false
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  2025. # [17:53] <@bz> Why was it expecting false?
  2026. # [17:54] <lsblakk> reed: ping
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  2028. # [17:54] <reed> lsblakk: pong
  2029. # [17:54] <lsblakk> reed: what's the next step on bug 844527 ?
  2030. # [17:54] <jcranmer> bz: you mean you're surprised that we have tests that test stupid things?
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  2032. # [17:54] <glandium> mayhemer: how do you start your builds?
  2033. # [17:54] <@bz> Oh
  2034. # [17:54] <@bz> because the test explicitly tests for that
  2035. # [17:54] <mayhemer> glandium: from the src dir I do mach build
  2036. # [17:54] <@bz> 247 is(node instanceof HTMLUnknownElement, false,
  2037. # [17:54] <@bz> 248 tagName(tag) + " is an instance of HTMLUnknownElement");
  2038. # [17:54] <lsblakk> reed: do we just need bsmith review?
  2039. # [17:54] <@bz> 249 is(node instanceof SpecialPowers.Ci.nsIDOMHTMLUnknownElement, false,
  2040. # [17:54] <@bz> 250 tagName(tag) + " is an instance of nsIDOMHTMLUnknownElement");
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  2042. # [17:55] <annevk> aah
  2043. # [17:55] <@bz> that needs to be modified for the cases when classInfoString is HTMLUnknownElement
  2044. # [17:55] <annevk> you got there first
  2045. # [17:55] <@khuey> ted: ok I just posted on sdwilsh's facebook wall :-P
  2046. # [17:55] <mayhemer> glandium: and before I got used to mach I was using simply pymake -f client.mk build
  2047. # [17:55] <jcranmer> bz: I fixed a test last night that tested one thing, and specifically a case which I would argue is actually a *bug* in its API
  2048. # [17:55] <ted> khuey: seems to work!
  2049. # [17:55] <ted> khuey: apparently he's in charge of android testing there now
  2050. # [17:55] <ted> i saw him last week
  2051. # [17:55] <mayhemer> glandium: where pymake is an alias to m-c's pymake script
  2052. # [17:55] <@bz> darkowlzz: ^
  2053. # [17:55] <@bz> darkowlzz: Also, fix the other two tests that use HTML_TAG?
  2054. # [17:55] <glandium> mayhemer: have you had the problem since you switched to mach?
  2055. # [17:56] <glandium> mayhemer: how is the pymake alias defined?
  2056. # [17:56] <mayhemer> glandium: yes, pymake it self had the same problem
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  2058. # [17:56] <mayhemer> glandium: alias pymake="python -O /c/mozilla/src/mozilla-central/build/pymake/make.py"
  2059. # [17:56] <darkowlzz> bz: jcranmer's message?
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  2062. # [17:56] <@bz> darkowlzz: no, mine
  2063. # [17:56] <reed> lsblakk: I was kinda waiting on bug 847621
  2064. # [17:56] <glandium> mayhemer: ok, thanks
  2065. # [17:57] <mayhemer> glandium: me too :)
  2066. # [17:57] <reed> lsblakk: since mayhemer and I keep getting different output, and it's a pain to merge
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  2068. # [17:57] <lsblakk> reed: interesting, since bug 847621 isn't tracked but 844527 is
  2069. # [17:57] <reed> lsblakk: but I can put a new version together today that combines everybody's results
  2070. # [17:58] <reed> lsblakk: note that releng did check-in a change on bug 836097 to automate this
  2071. # [17:58] <reed> but that's only for m-c and m-a
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  2073. # [17:58] <annevk> so we're okay with web components blocking script just like style sheets do?
  2074. # [17:58] <lsblakk> reed: i see - so we just need beta today then
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  2077. # [17:59] <darkowlzz> bz: so should it be like after getting var classInfoString = getClassName(tag);
  2078. # [17:59] <annevk> hmm
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  2080. # [17:59] <darkowlzz> have conditions to check for HTMLUnknownElement
  2081. # [17:59] <lsblakk> reed: if you don't mind doing the manual run and close out bug 844527 to 847621 maybe?
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  2085. # [17:59] <darkowlzz> if so, expect True, else run the old tests
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  2088. # [17:59] <@bz> Yeah, so those two tests should be wrapped in "if (classInfoString != 'HTMLUnknownElement')"
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  2093. # [18:00] <annevk> bz: then you might as well remove those tests, no?
  2094. # [18:00] <reed> lsblakk: yeah, I'll do it today
  2095. # [18:00] <@bz> annevk: no
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  2097. # [18:01] <@bz> annevk: why?
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  2101. # [18:01] <@bz> annevk: 'classInfoString' comes from our HTML_TAG things in the test
  2102. # [18:01] <darkowlzz> bz: how about, if 'HTMLUnknownElement' no further test, else run the old tests? or the expected True is important?
  2103. # [18:01] <BenWa> ted: pong
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  2105. # [18:01] <@bz> darkowlzz: the former is what I proposed, yes
  2106. # [18:02] <ted> BenWa: i was going to ask if you wanted to test this --disable-crashreporter patch on a mac android build, since i don't have one of those handy
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  2108. # [18:02] <BenWa> ted: Sure I kept my build around
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  2111. # [18:02] <darkowlzz> bz: okay, lemme try it
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  2114. # [18:03] <darkowlzz> thanks bz annevk jcranmer :)
  2115. # [18:03] <ted> BenWa: patch is on bug 850089
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  2119. # [18:03] <BenWa> ted: Those builds take something like 40 mins, it's annoying =\
  2120. # [18:03] <ted> :-/
  2121. # [18:04] <ted> you have a slow mac, or the build is just slow?
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  2123. # [18:04] <BenWa> it's just slow, my mac is good
  2124. # [18:04] <ted> ah
  2125. # [18:04] <BenWa> maybe once we use the clang based ndk things will be better
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  2127. # [18:04] <RyanVM> kats: fwiw, rc1 looks green again post-backout
  2128. # [18:05] <RyanVM> kats: I'm also realizing that I never commented in your bugs - still want me to?
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  2132. # [18:05] <kats> RyanVM: i commented already, thanks though
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  2134. # [18:05] <RyanVM> sorry about that
  2135. # [18:05] <kats> i can't reproduce locally so i will debug via try
  2136. # [18:05] <kats> no problem
  2137. # [18:05] <RyanVM> always a fun proposition :)
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  2146. # [18:06] <glandium> mayhemer, ted: you're going to like this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2212222
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  2150. # [18:07] <ted> what the what
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  2154. # [18:08] <jhammel> glandium: the capital v lower case?
  2155. # [18:08] <glandium> jhammel: yup
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  2158. # [18:08] <jhammel> "nice"
  2159. # [18:08] <@khuey> yay windows
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  2161. # [18:08] <@bz> seth: png
  2162. # [18:08] <@bz> seth: ping
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  2164. # [18:09] <BenWa> ted: posted with a build error
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  2169. # [18:11] <lsblakk> thanks reed
  2170. # [18:11] <ted> BenWa: oops, good catch
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  2174. # [18:12] <we11ington> Does anybody know how to get this to work in C++: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/Element.cpp#465
  2175. # [18:13] <we11ington> I need to get the class list so I can add/remove some classes
  2176. # [18:13] <ted> BenWa: http://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/2212224
  2177. # [18:13] <ted> interdiff, should fix that
  2178. # [18:13] <we11ington> Since it returns by reference I need SOME local variable but I cannot for the life of me get anything to work
  2179. # [18:13] <we11ington> Smart pointers don't work, dumb pointers don't work, I cannot figure it out
  2180. # [18:13] <BenWa> ted: trying
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  2185. # [18:15] <@khuey> we11ington: if you're in C++ just call http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/Element.cpp#449 ?
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  2189. # [18:16] <we11ington> khuey: The element I have is an nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMHTMLImageElement>, so it uses 465, not 449
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  2192. # [18:17] <@bz> Well, don't do that
  2193. # [18:17] <@bz> Why do you have an nsIDOMHTMLImageElement anyway?
  2194. # [18:17] <@khuey> right
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  2197. # [18:17] <we11ington> bz: khuey: that's what was used
  2198. # [18:17] <we11ington> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846929
  2199. # [18:17] <we11ington> Already
  2200. # [18:17] * @bz looks
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  2203. # [18:18] <@bz> Is mImageContent an Element*?
  2204. # [18:18] <we11ington> Currently, they just wipe out the style and replace it with the cursor. This horribly breaks image rotation stuff.
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  2207. # [18:18] <@bz> And if not why not?
  2208. # [18:18] <we11ington> nsCOMPtr<nsIContent>
  2209. # [18:19] <@bz> 662 mImageContent = NS_NewHTMLImageElement(nodeInfo.forget());
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  2216. # [18:19] <@bz> So your path of least resistance is mImageContent->AsElement()->GetClassList() or whatever
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  2218. # [18:20] <@bz> but sanity would dictate that long-term mImageContent should become an nsHTMLImageElement*
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  2220. # [18:20] <darkowlzz> bz: yeah! that worked, no more errors :D
  2221. # [18:20] <darkowlzz> annevk: ^
  2222. # [18:20] <@bz> darkowlzz: good. ;)
  2223. # [18:21] <@bz> I should note that NS_NewHTMLImageElement returns nsGenericHTMLElement
  2224. # [18:21] <@khuey> bz: a mozilla::dom::HTMLImageElement I hope ;-)
  2225. # [18:21] <@bz> So you can certainly make mImageContent into an Element without trouble
  2226. # [18:21] <@bz> khuey: details
  2227. # [18:21] <@bz> khuey: muscle memory. :(
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  2230. # [18:22] <annevk> darkowlzz: sweet
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  2233. # [18:24] <we11ington> bz: khuey: that worked (AsElement()->…). Next question is, what's that mozilla::ErrorResult ?
  2234. # [18:24] <we11ington> And how do I check it?
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  2236. # [18:25] <we11ington> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsDOMTokenList.h#62
  2237. # [18:25] <we11ington> (Or should I ignore it? Probably not)
  2238. # [18:25] <@bz> we11ington: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/ErrorResult.h#34
  2239. # [18:25] <@bz> we11ington: it's the equivalent of the "nsresult" for XPCOM methods
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  2245. # [18:28] <we11ington> bz: Is there an equivalent there of NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS() ?
  2246. # [18:28] <we11ington> Or should I just not check it?
  2247. # [18:29] <BenWa> ted: more interdiff but it's not sufficient
  2248. # [18:29] <BenWa> http://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/2212237
  2249. # [18:30] <we11ington> bz: Aha, got it, never mind. ErrorResult::ErrorCode()
  2250. # [18:30] <@bz> we11ington: Failed()
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  2254. # [18:30] <@bz> we11ington: if you just want to check whether you failed, use Failed()
  2255. # [18:30] <we11ington> Well, I'm less interested in a boolean, jaws suggested NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS
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  2258. # [18:31] <@bz> What do you expect to actually happen if the call fails?
  2259. # [18:31] <@bz> And why
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  2264. # [18:32] <we11ington> bz: If it fails, the wrong cursor shows up on a large image (the zoom in/out cursor). I honestly don't think it's worth an NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS
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  2268. # [18:32] <we11ington> If you think it should be removed that's not a problem
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  2270. # [18:32] <@bz> I think you need to decide what behavior you want
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  2272. # [18:32] <@bz> and then implement it.
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  2277. # [18:33] <@bz> NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS is not magic pixie dust
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  2280. # [18:33] <@bz> what it does depends on what work it skips and what the caller does with the error return value
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  2282. # [18:33] <@bz> (yes, I know we often treat it as magic pixie dust)
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  2285. # [18:34] <we11ington> Personally I think errors should be ignored here because it's so minor, but I'm deferring to jaws' opinion since I'm just a lowly student :P
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  2288. # [18:34] <@bz> Another interesting question is when the error can happen in practice
  2289. # [18:34] <@bz> what API is this?
  2290. # [18:35] <we11ington> I'm not sure what you mean
  2291. # [18:35] <we11ington> nsDOMTokenList?
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  2293. # [18:35] <ted> BenWa: still breaking with that patch?
  2294. # [18:35] <BenWa> I'm testing out more changes
  2295. # [18:35] <BenWa> its getting further, let's see
  2296. # [18:35] <ted> ok
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  2298. # [18:36] <ted> should have probably just built desktop mac
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  2301. # [18:36] <ted> glandium: that is weird, getcwd (the CRT API) on windows reliably returns capital drive letters under cmd.exe
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  2303. # [18:37] <ted> but lowercase under msys
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  2307. # [18:37] <@bz> we11ington: which exact method is the ErrorResult an argument to?
  2308. # [18:37] <glandium> ted: and python returns both :)
  2309. # [18:37] <ted> odd
  2310. # [18:37] <we11ington> nsDOMTokenList::Add() and ::Remove()
  2311. # [18:37] <we11ington> bz: ^
  2312. # [18:37] <ted> the python source just does getcwd (or GetCurrentDirectoryW, depending on unicode support)
  2313. # [18:37] <BenWa> ted: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2212246 
  2314. # [18:37] <ted> i tried both of those APIs though
  2315. # [18:37] <BenWa> Ok so with this patch I get to some unrelated JS errors
  2316. # [18:37] * Ms2ger wonders what this is about DOMTokenList
  2317. # [18:37] <BenWa> err Javac compile errors
  2318. # [18:37] <glandium> ted: note it only does uppercase before the first directory change
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  2321. # [18:38] <ted> BenWa: that looks the same as the patch you gave me before?
  2322. # [18:38] <ted> glandium: yeah, the python output is weird
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  2324. # [18:39] <glandium> ted: and in fact, if i remove the cd %USERPROFILE% in start-msvc.bat, it prints lowercase
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  2326. # [18:39] <glandium> which is weird, since mayhemer had this line removed
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  2328. # [18:40] <@bz> http://pcwalton.github.com/blog/2013/03/09/which-pointer-should-i-use/#comment-824538647 is hilarious
  2329. # [18:40] <Ms2ger> Don't you love their syntax...
  2330. # [18:41] <glandium> bz: bwahaha
  2331. # [18:41] <Waldo> Ms2ger: I remain disappointed that Rust people are anti-whitespace-formatting :-(
  2332. # [18:41] <@bz> Ms2ger: which part?
  2333. # [18:42] <Waldo> setting aside any other disinterest in syntax concerns they have at the moment
  2334. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> "let counter: @mut Counter = @mut Counter { count: 0 };", say
  2335. # [18:42] <@bz> Ms2ger: note that in real life you would write that as:
  2336. # [18:43] <@bz> let counter = @mut Counter { count: 0 };
  2337. # [18:43] <@bz> Ms2ger: afaik
  2338. # [18:43] <@bz> Ms2ger: and just let the compiler's type inference infer the type of "counter"
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  2340. # [18:43] <pcwalton> right
  2341. # [18:43] <Ms2ger> In real life, it'd probably be Counter* counter = new Counter(0)? :)
  2342. # [18:43] <annevk> Ms2ger: you cc'd me on that ICU bug
  2343. # [18:44] <pcwalton> std::shared_ptr<Counter> = std::shared_ptr<Counter>(Counter(0));
  2344. # [18:44] <annevk> Ms2ger: are you expecting me to complain about something?
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  2348. # [18:44] <BenWa> ted: it does but it's a different soruce file
  2349. # [18:44] <pcwalton> std::shared_ptr<Counter> counter = std::shared_ptr(Counter(0)); rather
  2350. # [18:44] <Ms2ger> annevk, I dunno, is this something you'd complain about? :)
  2351. # [18:44] <annevk> Ms2ger: I don't like that everyone relies on the same backend, but I don't have an alternative
  2352. # [18:44] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a no, then :)
  2353. # [18:45] <glandium> pcwalton: auto counter = ...
  2354. # [18:45] <pcwalton> sure, in C++11
  2355. # [18:45] <annevk> Given the fuss we made about SQLite dependencies in the platform building in an ICU dependency seems bad, but *shrug*
  2356. # [18:45] <derf> Waldo: I support any formatting that is anti-whitespace.
  2357. # [18:46] <Waldo> haters gonna hate
  2358. # [18:46] <Waldo> :-P
  2359. # [18:46] <ted> BenWa: sorry, those two patches you pastebinned are the same
  2360. # [18:46] <pcwalton> anyway, if you wrote a constructor it would be let counter = @mut Counter(0); which isn't different from std::shared_ptr except it uses a sigil and annotates mutability
  2361. # [18:46] <derf> What I actually find crazy is this notion that pointers only point to the start of a block of heap-allocated memory.
  2362. # [18:46] <Waldo> if there's one thing Python got right, it is whitespace-based formatting
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  2364. # [18:46] <glandium> Waldo: it's the most awful thing about python
  2365. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> It's really good
  2366. # [18:47] <@khuey> glandium++
  2367. # [18:47] <BenWa> ted: Here's the total interdiff, 1 hunk is from your patch, the other two are from me: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2212279
  2368. # [18:47] <BenWa> it should apply on top of your bugzilla patch
  2369. # [18:47] <Waldo> also vim and emacs are stupid, nano ftw
  2370. # [18:47] <ted> BenWa: aha
  2371. # [18:47] <ted> thanks
  2372. # [18:47] <Waldo> ...my work here is complete
  2373. # [18:47] <derf> Waldo: pico forever.
  2374. # [18:47] <Mook_as> Waldo: I think Pascal got it right-er :D
  2375. # [18:48] <nemo> glandium: amen
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  2377. # [18:48] <glandium> Waldo, derf: ed forever
  2378. # [18:49] <nemo> Mook_as: heh. 90% of my off-the-job FOSS programming these days is pascal :)
  2379. # [18:49] <db48x> s-expressions are better than either
  2380. # [18:49] <derf> glandium: Most likely to be literally true.
  2381. # [18:49] <db48x> nemo: crazy. what have you been working on?
  2382. # [18:49] <nemo> db48x: Hedgewars
  2383. # [18:49] <froydnj> tbsaunde: are you able to review (fairly trivial) a11y patches?
  2384. # [18:49] <pcwalton> anyway, I can see the opposition to the @ sigil, I don't know whether that or the "shared_ptr" keyword is better to be honest. but the Rust community seems to like the brevity so you don't have to type smart pointer names over and over
  2385. # [18:49] <nemo> db48x: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgewars#Languages
  2386. # [18:50] <nemo> db48x: thankfully no python ;)
  2387. # [18:50] <nemo> but basically every other language :D
  2388. # [18:50] <nemo> I just spend most of my time in the engine. thus. 90%
  2389. # [18:50] <db48x> heh, cool
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  2391. # [18:53] <nemo> db48x: actually, the subset of pascal Hedgewars is using is fairly C-like. structs, pointers, function pointers. just w/ some nice stuff C doesn't offer like function overloading, pass by reference, operator overloading, units...
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  2393. # [18:53] <nemo> no OOP
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  2396. # [18:55] <we11ington> bz: For whatever reason, the zoom-in cursor is not applied initially anymore
  2397. # [18:55] <we11ington> Oh wait, I know
  2398. # [18:55] <we11ington> It's because it wipes out the class indiscriminately elsewhere
  2399. # [18:55] <we11ington> Wonderful...
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  2406. # [19:00] <Optimizer> anyone on Mzc OSX 10.8 can give me the correct user agent ?
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  2409. # [19:01] <@bz> Optimizer: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:21.0) Gecko/20130219 Firefox/21.0
  2410. # [19:01] <@bz> Optimizer: or do you want release or some other channel?
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  2412. # [19:01] <Optimizer> nightly
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  2414. # [19:02] <Optimizer> something that is the output of Services.soemthing
  2415. # [19:02] <@bz> Optimizer: The above is nightly from the last time I restarted it
  2416. # [19:02] <Optimizer> not window.navigator
  2417. # [19:02] <@bz> Optimizer: um
  2418. # [19:03] * @bz has no idea what Optimizer wants. ;)
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  2420. # [19:03] <Optimizer> Components.classes["@mozilla.org/xre/app-info;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIXULRuntime).OS
  2421. # [19:03] <Optimizer> basically I am in a mochtest bc, and I want to bypass OSX 10.8
  2422. # [19:04] <@bz> One sec
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  2427. # [19:04] <@bz> Components.classes["@mozilla.org/xre/app-info;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIXULRuntime).OS
  2428. # [19:04] <@bz> Darwin
  2429. # [19:04] <Optimizer> even var info = Components.classes["@mozilla.org/xre/app-info;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIXULAppInfo); doesn't have the versino of windows :(
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  2431. # [19:05] <Optimizer> and anyway to detect Lion ?
  2432. # [19:05] <BenWa> ted: Ok with my sdk updated this patch is sufficient
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  2435. # [19:05] <Optimizer> I guess, I have to use navigator.oscpu only then .
  2436. # [19:05] <BenWa> ted: So will we not support breakpad profiling with disable-crashreporter?
  2437. # [19:06] <@bz> Yeah
  2438. # [19:06] <@bz> seems like that's the path of least resistance
  2439. # [19:06] <Optimizer> seems like that, can you share what that says ?
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  2443. # [19:07] <@bz> [14:03:50.242] "Intel Mac OS X 10.8"
  2444. # [19:07] * NeilAway would glandium++ but a) khuey already did and b) firebot isn't here anyway
  2445. # [19:07] <ted> BenWa: no, should work fine
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  2448. # [19:08] <ted> that followup patch just builds the little bits of breakpad we need for SPS, and skips building the host libraries (that we use for symbol dumping)
  2449. # [19:08] <Optimizer> bz: thats fairly straight forward , thanks :)
  2450. # [19:08] <@bz> Optimizer: no problem
  2451. # [19:09] <BenWa> excellent
  2452. # [19:09] <BenWa> ill try it after the meeting
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  2457. # [19:13] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: are you interested in taking bug 744836?
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  2459. # [19:13] <BenWa> ted: top crasher bug 782223 doesn't seem to have symbols for the newer nexus 7 tegra 3. Does your extension to collect mobile drivers still work?
  2460. # [19:14] <ted> BenWa: the server it was sending to went away :-(
  2461. # [19:14] <billm> dbaron: ping
  2462. # [19:14] <@dbaron> billm, pong
  2463. # [19:14] <ted> if you have access to that hardware and can send me the libraries in question i can manually upload them
  2464. # [19:14] <BenWa> I'll ask in the bug
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  2466. # [19:14] <Waldo> NeilAway: actually I think he's around as firebotAway
  2467. # [19:16] <RyanVM> smaug: burning inbound
  2468. # [19:16] <billm> dbaron: hi. I have a patch that moves around when GCs happen and I'm getting a lot of NS_ASSERTIONs. I think these assertions probably happen already, but just in a different test. what do you think I should do about this?
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  2470. # [19:16] <billm> dbaron: here's a try push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=63120d9b7edb
  2471. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> billm, cry
  2472. # [19:16] <jhammel> Ms2ger++
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  2475. # [19:16] <@dbaron> billm, a bunch of the tests that are known to trigger assertions during GC actually have explicit GC calls in the tests to force the assertions to happen
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  2477. # [19:17] <dzbarsky> smaug: WrapObject no longer takes a bool
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  2479. # [19:17] <@dbaron> billm, but it's entirely possible that there's another test that needs that treatment
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  2482. # [19:18] <@dbaron> billm, presumably something in or near docshell/test/navigation/
  2483. # [19:18] <@dbaron> billm, though it might be bug 846150 happening more reliably
  2484. # [19:18] <billm> dbaron: that seems like it's moving us in the wrong direction. explicit GC calls are bad in general.
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  2487. # [19:19] <darkowlzz> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844127#c17 "the other two tests that use HTML_TAG should be fixed." Can you please point me to the two tests? I am in confusion
  2488. # [19:19] <@smaug> argh
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  2490. # [19:19] <@dbaron> billm, Explicit GC calls *in tests*.
  2491. # [19:19] <@smaug> RyanVM: this is what happens when I'm using m-i
  2492. # [19:19] * @smaug should switch back to m-c
  2493. # [19:19] <RyanVM> smaug: hah
  2494. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> darkowlzz, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=HTML_TAG
  2495. # [19:19] <@smaug> RyanVM: seriously
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  2497. # [19:20] <@dbaron> billm, the alternative was annotating huge numbers of tests as potentially asserting
  2498. # [19:20] <@bz> darkowlzz: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=HTML_TAG
  2499. # [19:20] <RyanVM> smaug: yeah, then you just leave the merge conflicts for the sheriffs to sort out
  2500. # [19:20] <RyanVM> "fun"
  2501. # [19:20] <@dbaron> billm, or debugging and fixing the assertions in question
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  2503. # [19:20] <darkowlzz> Ms2ger: amazing agility :D
  2504. # [19:20] <@smaug> RyanVM: that is indeed a problem, but different one
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  2506. # [19:20] <billm> dbaron: is there no way to whitelist a particular assertion, regardless of when it happens?
  2507. # [19:20] <@bz> Ms2ger: heh
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  2509. # [19:20] <@dbaron> billm, make it not be an assertion anymore
  2510. # [19:21] <philor> YES
  2511. # [19:21] <@dbaron> billm, and maybe that's the answer in some cases
  2512. # [19:21] <RyanVM> smaug: one that's potentially worse since there's no guarantee someone will be around to help when the merges occur
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  2514. # [19:21] <@dbaron> billm, but it requires some knowledge of the code in question
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  2517. # [19:21] <billm> dbaron: this "Window has gone away" thing seems very common
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  2521. # [19:23] <@dbaron> billm, it would be great if you wanted to figure out what's causing it
  2522. # [19:23] <billm> dbaron: all right, I'll see what I can do. where are the assertion annotations located for mochitests?
  2523. # [19:23] <@smaug> and clobber
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  2525. # [19:23] <@smaug> takes time to test the fix
  2526. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> billm, in the tests
  2527. # [19:24] <billm> ok, thanks
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  2529. # [19:24] <@dbaron> billm, SimpleTest.expectAssertions() calls in the tests
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  2538. # [19:28] <RyanVM> smaug: do you have a fix or should I backout?
  2539. # [19:28] <@smaug> I think I have a fix
  2540. # [19:28] <@smaug> but I need to build first
  2541. # [19:29] <RyanVM> smaug: OK, thanks :)
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  2550. # [19:31] <aklotz> bsmedberg: Sure, I'll take a peak
  2551. # [19:31] <RyanVM> wesj: ping
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  2553. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> aklotz: I'm thinking that if the cause isn't immediately obvious, we should consider poisoning the memory of dead nsTimerImpl *and* dead nsThread objects in their destructor
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  2556. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> or their operator delete...
  2557. # [19:33] <mfinkle> RyanVM, wesj went to a doc appt
  2558. # [19:33] <RyanVM> mfinkle: looks like his min-width push made rc2 orange
  2559. # [19:33] <aklotz> bsmedberg: Yeah, sounds good.
  2560. # [19:34] <aklotz> bsmedberg: When you get a chance, could you please comment on bug 836488?
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  2563. # [19:35] <mfinkle> RyanVM, i don't see it yet on tbpl, but if it's not intermittent we should back out
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  2566. # [19:35] <RyanVM> mfinkle: look at the pushes above his
  2567. # [19:35] <RyanVM> mfinkle: just seems like a weird bustage
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  2571. # [19:37] <mfinkle> RyanVM, looks like bug 817440
  2572. # [19:37] <mfinkle> which is marked FIXED
  2573. # [19:37] <RyanVM> yeah, but perma-fail
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  2575. # [19:37] <RyanVM> mfinkle: yeah, it was fixed in Jan
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  2582. # [19:43] <@bsmedberg> holy moly
  2583. # [19:43] <@ehsan> padenot: so I attached my patches to bug 849916, which should unblock you
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  2586. # [19:44] <@ehsan> padenot: I asked you for review, just mainly to keep you in the loop on how the plumbing works
  2587. # [19:44] <@ehsan> padenot: it's mostly just moving data around... nothing very tricky!
  2588. # [19:44] <padenot> ehsan: cool
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  2590. # [19:44] <@ehsan> padenot: sorry for the delay, the looping stuff took way longer than I expected
  2591. # [19:44] <padenot> also, I've done some progress on finding the cause of bug 847481
  2592. # [19:45] <padenot> and it's not very encouraging
  2593. # [19:45] <@ehsan> oh cool
  2594. # [19:45] <@ehsan> oh
  2595. # [19:45] <@ehsan> shoot!
  2596. # [19:45] <@ehsan> wanna tell me more?
  2597. # [19:45] <padenot> It has never worked
  2598. # [19:45] <padenot> but I posted in the bug
  2599. # [19:45] * @ehsan looks
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  2605. # [19:48] <@ehsan> padenot: so where does the clock that we should be using live?
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  2607. # [19:49] <tbsaunde> froydnj: sure
  2608. # [19:49] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, is someone taking smaug out?
  2609. # [19:49] <@smaug> I'm landing the fix in a minute
  2610. # [19:49] <padenot> ehsan: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/MediaStreamGraph.cpp#294
  2611. # [19:49] <RyanVM> smaug's testing a fix
  2612. # [19:49] <RyanVM> what he said
  2613. # [19:49] <RyanVM> :P
  2614. # [19:49] <@ehsan> padenot: but we're not using that right now... so, what are we using instead?
  2615. # [19:49] <padenot> ehsan: roc's initial implementation used to use this, and then he landed patches to no use this
  2616. # [19:49] <padenot> ehsan: mozilla::TimeStamp
  2617. # [19:49] <darkowlzz> bz: submitted https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844127#c20
  2618. # [19:49] <@ehsan> oh
  2619. # [19:49] <@ehsan> padenot: do you know why he did that?
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  2623. # [19:50] <padenot> nope
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  2625. # [19:50] <padenot> not sure if it is on purpose
  2626. # [19:50] <@ehsan> padenot: so let me see if I got this right!
  2627. # [19:50] <@smaug> RyanVM: I need something like CLOSED TREE in the commit message?
  2628. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> Yes
  2629. # [19:50] <@ehsan> padenot: so we're just relying on good luck to make sure that the AudioStream clock is what we expect it to be?
  2630. # [19:50] <@ehsan> and sometimes get unlucky?
  2631. # [19:51] <padenot> yes
  2632. # [19:51] <@ehsan> nice!
  2633. # [19:51] <padenot> and also, we don't monitor how much data there is in cubeb's buffers, so it underruns sometumgs
  2634. # [19:51] <@ehsan> padenot: given the fact that roc also changes GetAudioPosition() in the same patch, I think this was not what he intended
  2635. # [19:52] <@ehsan> right
  2636. # [19:52] <padenot> sometimes*
  2637. # [19:52] <padenot> yeah, we will see
  2638. # [19:52] <@ehsan> ok
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  2640. # [19:52] <@ehsan> thanks for the analysis so far
  2641. # [19:52] <@ehsan> let's see how roc wants to defend his code ;)
  2642. # [19:53] <@smaug> RyanVM: at least the fix compiled locally
  2643. # [19:54] <RyanVM> smaug: thanks :)
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  2647. # [19:58] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, will the tree reopen when one of the builds finishes, or are we waiting for the entire run to finish?
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  2652. # [19:59] <@bsmedberg> ok, in the 3-day period between Mar 8-10, there were 2350 crashes by users on a "AuthenticAMD family 20 model 1" processor
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  2655. # [20:00] <@bsmedberg> almost *half* of those were at the signature "js::CrossCompartmentWrapper::call(JSContext*, JSObject*, unsigned int, JS::Value*)"
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  2660. # [20:02] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: I'd like to see at least one green build, yes
  2661. # [20:02] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: since other stuff landed on top of it
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  2664. # [20:02] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, right - just gauging how long I'll need to wait, thanks :)
  2665. # [20:02] <Cwiiis> If only I got my patches in a little quicker...
  2666. # [20:04] <@bsmedberg> even more damningly, *every single* crash with the signature "js::CrossCompartmentWrapper::get(JSContext*, JSObject*, JSObject*, int, JS::Value*)" comes from "AuthenticAMD family 20 model 1"
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  2685. # [20:13] <lsblakk> RyanVM: just a heads up that there will be many beta patches coming in today - i'll be out this afternoon on an offsite but will check on approvals EOD so we can get another round of landings then
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  2687. # [20:13] <RyanVM> lsblakk: OK, I'll be doing an inbound merge pretty soon too
  2688. # [20:13] <RyanVM> lsblakk: off https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79b8e0a0bdb7
  2689. # [20:13] <lsblakk> excellent, ty
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  2700. # [20:21] <evilpie> never seen that before "Restrict Comments: true"
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  2702. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> evilpie, new in 4.2
  2703. # [20:21] <evilpie> awesome
  2704. # [20:22] <evilpie> up in five: Mozilla blocks community input
  2705. # [20:24] <@smaug> BenWa: what is this Profiler: ----------------- MOZ_PROFILER_NEW not set ----------------- noise I get to terminal?
  2706. # [20:24] <BenWa> smaug: Its the new backend we're working on
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  2709. # [20:24] <@smaug> any reason why we need to print that to terminal?
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  2712. # [20:25] <BenWa> smaug: We're cleaning things up at the moment
  2713. # [20:25] <@smaug> k
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  2717. # [20:28] <padenot> ehsan: thanks, I'll start writing the audio processing bits tomorrow
  2718. # [20:28] <@ehsan> great
  2719. # [20:28] <@ehsan> thank you
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  2728. # [20:35] <RyanVM> Cwiiis: bombs away
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  2730. # [20:35] <Cwiiis> RyanVM, awesome, thanks :)
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  2735. # [20:38] <@smaug> Waldo: ping
  2736. # [20:38] <Waldo> smaug: pong
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  2738. # [20:38] <@smaug> Waldo: about templates, but different thing today (though still about the same bug)
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  2743. # [20:40] <@smaug> Waldo: can I use the information of the type of the return value to instantiate template class. I mean case like Foo foo(methodReturningSomeObject()):
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  2745. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> smaug, no, aiui
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  2748. # [20:40] <Waldo> smaug: it's possible to have |class Foo { template<typename T> Foo(const T& t);| already, if that helps
  2749. # [20:40] <Ms2ger> smaug, do_QI needed some hackery to do that
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  2752. # [20:42] <RyanVM> Jesse: nice follow-up :P
  2753. # [20:42] <@smaug> Waldo: well I would need to do different things in the dtor based on what ctor was called
  2754. # [20:42] <@smaug> Waldo: basically run different dtor
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  2756. # [20:42] <Waldo> smaug: why not separate classes?
  2757. # [20:43] <Waldo> possibly with a common superclass or something
  2758. # [20:43] <@smaug> Waldo: well, I would need to know which class to use
  2759. # [20:44] <@smaug> this is about generated code
  2760. # [20:44] <@smaug> it is not possible to know the type of the retval in codegenerator
  2761. # [20:44] <@smaug> except that it is Foo* or already_AddRefed<Foo>
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  2764. # [20:45] <@smaug> in case of Foo*, the dtor should be no-op
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  2766. # [20:45] <@smaug> and in case of already_AddRefed<Foo>, dtor should call release
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  2768. # [20:46] <bjacob> lsblakk|afk: requested approval on 843273
  2769. # [20:47] <Waldo> hmm
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  2788. # [20:58] <seth> i seem to be subject to the murphy's law of multiplatform development
  2789. # [20:58] <seth> oranges on every platform but the one i develop on =(
  2790. # [20:58] <Ms2ger> Ah, seth
  2791. # [20:59] <Ms2ger> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1b269c239a75#l1.36
  2792. # [20:59] <Ms2ger> seth, should that be ns_succeeded or ns_failed?
  2793. # [20:59] <seth> it's correct as written
  2794. # [20:59] <romaxa> Waldo: so you want me to add std:: to other functions in same file ? like MathAlgorithms.h#102,109 ?
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  2796. # [20:59] <seth> though admittedly puzzling because of our bizarro XPCOM conventions
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  2801. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Waldo, yt?
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  2803. # [21:00] <Waldo> romaxa: yeah
  2804. # [21:00] <seth> basically it says "if the inner image threw an exception, just return that, otherwise always return that we're not animated"
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  2806. # [21:00] <Ms2ger> Ah, there we are
  2807. # [21:00] <Waldo> well, lemme double-check the line numbers
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  2809. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> seth, would be clearer if you just used a dummy bool on the stack to pass to the inner, then
  2810. # [21:01] <Waldo> yeah, those line numbers
  2811. # [21:01] <Waldo> Ms2ger: pong
  2812. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> Waldo, just checking if you caught romaxa's question
  2813. # [21:01] <Waldo> I did, barely :-)
  2814. # [21:02] <seth> Ms2ger: yeah, that's a fair point. i'll try to make it clearer at some point
  2815. # [21:02] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
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  2824. # [21:10] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: How did my commit message make you sad? Did I even have one?
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  2829. # [21:11] <RyanVM> JosiahOne: yeah, a generic mq one
  2830. # [21:12] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: :) Yeah, I forgot to add one.
  2831. # [21:12] <RyanVM> JosiahOne: much preferred to have one that's ready to go so I don't have to guess on one
  2832. # [21:12] <RyanVM> BTW, can I call you Damien?
  2833. # [21:12] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: Sorry about that.
  2834. # [21:12] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: Damien?
  2835. # [21:12] <RyanVM> Brunner!
  2836. # [21:12] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: … Is this a sports guy? :)
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  2838. # [21:13] <Mossop> we11ington: pong
  2839. # [21:13] <RyanVM> *sigh* I must be the only MI-originating Mozillian who actually cares about the Wings
  2840. # [21:13] <RyanVM> ehsan: inbound's burning
  2841. # [21:13] <JosiahOne> RyanVM: Don't feel horrible. I don't keep up with any sports. I didn't watch the super bowl or even care about it.
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  2843. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, sorry, I'm afraid I have to revoke your citizenship
  2844. # [21:15] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: You wouldn't dare.
  2845. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> Are you daring me? :)
  2846. # [21:15] <@khuey> Ms2ger: you're going to take away his Dutch citizenship?
  2847. # [21:15] <Waldo> RyanVM: you are not the only one, although I'm perhaps more old-guard Wings fan (could name a lot more of the older players than the current ones)
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  2849. # [21:15] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU!
  2850. # [21:15] <Waldo> Osgood, Vernon way way back, Yzerman, Chelios, etc.
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  2852. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> Vernon Dudley?
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  2857. # [21:16] <RyanVM> Waldo: Didn't realize you're from MI
  2858. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> *Dursley
  2859. # [21:16] <RyanVM> hmm, not looking good for ehsan to beat the clock
  2860. # [21:17] <Waldo> Ms2ger: Mike Vernon, Wings goalie 1997 Stanley Cup playoffs, was a backup, then went on a hot streak and took them the whole way, since you obviously care to know
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  2862. # [21:17] <Waldo> or maybe '96
  2863. # [21:17] <RyanVM> 97
  2864. # [21:17] <Ms2ger> Waldo, no, I don't ;)
  2865. # [21:17] <Waldo> they went back to Osgood the next year
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  2868. # [21:17] <RyanVM> ozzie in 98
  2869. # [21:17] <Waldo> Ms2ger: glad to help!
  2870. # [21:17] <RyanVM> hasek 02
  2871. # [21:17] <we11ington> Mossop: I got it figured out. Lot of stuff that wasn't making sense but I got it. :)
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  2873. # [21:17] <RyanVM> yadda yadda
  2874. # [21:18] <Waldo> RyanVM: yeah, I grew up in Walled Lake (near Novi/Wixom/etc.)
  2875. # [21:18] <RyanVM> nice!
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  2877. # [21:18] <@roc> ehsan, padenot: I deliberately removed the stream positioning stuff because the positions were wrong on some platforms
  2878. # [21:19] <@roc> hopefully that's fixed now
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  2880. # [21:20] <@ehsan> roc: so can we re-enable that code?
  2881. # [21:20] <RyanVM> landing. REVOKED
  2882. # [21:20] <RyanVM> ehsan ^
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  2884. # [21:20] <@roc> ehsan: we can try
  2885. # [21:20] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I'm pushing a fix
  2886. # [21:21] <@ehsan> RyanVM: done, sorry!
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  2888. # [21:21] <@ehsan> oh
  2889. # [21:21] <@ehsan> you backed me out
  2890. # [21:21] <@ehsan> nm then
  2891. # [21:21] <@khuey> haha
  2892. # [21:21] <@khuey> the iron fist of the sheriff prevails
  2893. # [21:21] <RyanVM> ehsan: when you get pinged, clock's running for a response :P
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  2895. # [21:21] <@ehsan> RyanVM: can I reland?
  2896. # [21:21] <Waldo> ehsan: respect RyanVM's authoritah
  2897. # [21:21] <@khuey> Waldo++
  2898. # [21:21] * RyanVM should have worn his badge for today's planning call
  2899. # [21:21] <@ehsan> come on guys, I'm just silly ;)
  2900. # [21:22] <jhammel> both of them ;)
  2901. # [21:22] <RyanVM> ehsan: be my guest
  2902. # [21:22] <@ehsan> RyanVM: yay, thanks!
  2903. # [21:22] <@ehsan> I'll build the stuff locally again
  2904. # [21:22] <@ehsan> to double check
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  2907. # [21:22] <@ehsan> I need to mail something first :(
  2908. # [21:22] <@ehsan> sigh, paper mail
  2909. # [21:23] <@ehsan> such a waste of time
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  2917. # [21:25] <@bz> ehsan: lol
  2918. # [21:26] <@bz> ehsan: I tried doing an IRA to 401k rollover....
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  2921. # [21:26] <@bz> ehsan: it was ... sadmaking
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  2923. # [21:26] <@bz> ehsan: I had to mail a paper form to the IRA administrator
  2924. # [21:26] <@bz> ehsan: who then sent me a paper check made out to the 401k administrator
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  2926. # [21:26] <@bz> ehsan: (I got that paper form by printing a PDF)
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  2930. # [21:27] <@ehsan> hehe
  2931. # [21:27] <@bz> ehsan: I then filled out the paper form the 401k administrator mailed me (they have no electronic printable version, apparently)
  2932. # [21:27] <@ehsan> yeah I'm also printing PDF forms now
  2933. # [21:27] <@bz> ehsan: and put it in an envelope with my paper check
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  2935. # [21:27] <@bz> ehsan: and mailed the paper form with the paper check to mozilla hr
  2936. # [21:27] <@dolske> "faxed the printed PDF" in 3...2...1...
  2937. # [21:27] <@bz> ehsan: who then need to sign off on it and mail the two pieces of paper to the 401k administrator
  2938. # [21:27] <Ms2ger> The IRA? I guess they didn't have so many computers in the sixties...
  2939. # [21:28] <@bz> dolske: fax not ok
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  2943. # [21:28] <@bz> dolske: had to be mailed, and also signed in the presence of a bank officer who then put this special seal on it
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  2945. # [21:28] <@bz> dolske: which is why fax is not ok
  2946. # [21:28] <@ehsan> bz: seems like a smooth process, not sure why you're complaining
  2947. # [21:28] <@ehsan> :P
  2948. # [21:28] <@bz> ehsan: and the best part? Both the IRA and the 401k are with Fidelity
  2949. # [21:28] <@khuey> that's impressive
  2950. # [21:28] <@bz> ehsan: It's to laugh at.
  2951. # [21:28] <Waldo> egad
  2952. # [21:29] <@bz> If I were rolling over from one Fidelity IRA to another I could just do it
  2953. # [21:29] <@bz> on the website
  2954. # [21:29] <@bz> but rolling into a 401k is ... see above.
  2955. # [21:29] <jhammel> oh you and your websites. you know they're just a fad
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  2957. # [21:30] <seth> yeah. i am currently consolidating my various 401ks, _all of them_ with Fidelity, and the situation is very similar
  2958. # [21:30] * @ehsan lols
  2959. # [21:30] <Waldo> jhammel: yeah, mobile apps will take over the world
  2960. # [21:30] * bkero has some fidelity 401k. I really should roll that into an IRA.
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  2962. # [21:30] <Ms2ger> bkero, from what I hear, that might be annoying :)
  2963. # [21:31] <bkero> Heh
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  2965. # [21:31] <@khuey> I think you have to quit first
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  2967. # [21:31] <Waldo> bz: would going to a Fidelity office have made any of that any easier?
  2968. # [21:31] <bkero> Ms2ger: Statistically it's the same outcome as some mutual fund manager investing my money.
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  2970. # [21:32] <@bz> Waldo: mmm
  2971. # [21:32] <@bz> Waldo: Unclear
  2972. # [21:32] <@bz> Waldo: I would still have needed the paper form and paper check
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  2975. # [21:32] <Waldo> why am I not surprised
  2976. # [21:32] <@bz> Waldo: and mailing them to hr
  2977. # [21:32] <@bz> waldo: but yes, I might have been able to avoid having to mail in the form to get the check
  2978. # [21:32] <@bz> waldo: but it was simpler to do all this async, really
  2979. # [21:33] <bkero> Huh. https://twitter.com/flamsmark/status/311517686444195840
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  2982. # [21:33] <@bz> waldo: a bit more latency, but not needing to go into Boston was good. ;)
  2983. # [21:33] <@dolske> rollover stuff is especially crazy because if you're sloppy and do it the wrong way you can get hit with penalties/taxes.
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  2986. # [21:33] <@khuey> yeah you don't want to fuck that up
  2987. # [21:33] <@dolske> add a bit of exciting danger to an already complex process. /
  2988. # [21:34] <@bz> dolske: indeed
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  2999. # [21:36] <froydnj> tbsaunde: what, you think lightning-fast reviews will get you to distinguished engineer quicker? :D
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  3001. # [21:38] <tbsaunde> froydnj: no, but why not get the easy crap out of my queue
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  3009. # [21:43] <JosiahOne> In javascript, can you say "else ' line skip ' return 1;"
  3010. # [21:43] <JosiahOne> I know you can for ifs.
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  3012. # [21:45] <seth> JosiahOne: yup
  3013. # [21:45] <JosiahOne> seth: Okay, thanks.
  3014. # [21:46] <dholbert> JosiahOne, best-practice is to use braces, though, so that if you add an alert('visited else clause'); before the "return 1", you won't break your logic
  3015. # [21:46] <JosiahOne> dholbert: I prefer braces, but my reviewer said to exclude them.
  3016. # [21:46] <dholbert> JosiahOne, ah, ok :)
  3017. # [21:46] <seth> some say that, yes
  3018. # [21:47] <JosiahOne> It's kind of like the, do you do:
  3019. # [21:47] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
  3020. # [21:47] <JosiahOne> if (blah) {
  3021. # [21:47] <JosiahOne> Or
  3022. # [21:47] <JosiahOne> if (blah)
  3023. # [21:47] <JosiahOne> {
  3024. # [21:47] <seth> or
  3025. # [21:48] <seth> if (blah) doWhatever();
  3026. # [21:48] <JosiahOne> seth: Right.
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  3028. # [21:48] <dholbert> JosiahOne, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Coding_Style?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Mozilla_Coding_Style_Guide#Control_Structures
  3029. # [21:48] <dholbert> "left brace at end of first line, cuddle else on both sides"
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  3031. # [21:49] <dholbert> (not arguing the single-line point, just clarifying placement-of-braces-if-you're-using-them)
  3032. # [21:49] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Yep, that's what I do.
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  3034. # [21:50] <till> lsblakk|afk: fix for bug 787927 just landed to inbound and I requested approval for beta and aurora.
  3035. # [21:50] <seth> i've given up having an opinion on bracing styles, because i've come to realize that braces are just ugly, no matter what you do with them
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  3037. # [21:50] <seth> significant whitespace ftw
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  3039. # [21:53] <jhammel> seth: so you're reviving pyxpcom? ;)
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  3041. # [21:54] <seth> jhammel: i don't know what that is, but if it has xpcom in the name it must be awful =)
  3042. # [21:54] <Mook_as> it uses tabs for indentation in its C++ files, so... yeah.
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  3044. # [21:54] <seth> that's.. interesting
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  3050. # [21:57] <tbsaunde> seth: but but how can you not want to make use of the wonderful cross everything nature of COM to work with xpcom objects in python?!?! :7
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  3067. # [22:05] <Mossop> khuey: Were you meant to be coming to the devtools stuff today?
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  3070. # [22:06] <@khuey> Mossop: I'm coming on thursday
  3071. # [22:06] <Mossop> Ah ok
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  3096. # [22:12] <Fallen> Haha I quote from the Java installer: Java provides safe and secure access to the world of amazing Java content.
  3097. # [22:12] <Fallen> is that supposed to be ironic?
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  3118. # [22:20] <@ehsan> roc: ping
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  3131. # [22:26] <rstrong> catlee: I just checked the beta stub installer build you linked to and it appears that it doesn't include the fix from bug 848794.
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  3133. # [22:26] <rstrong> I should say checked as well as I was able given the time
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  3152. # [22:35] <catlee> rstrong: hmm...the change is on disk on the build machine
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  3158. # [22:36] <rstrong> catlee: I saw that but there were a couple of things that were implemented in that bug that don't happen with the beta stub you linked to. I tried to reproduce with my nightly by copying over the official to the nightly and wasn't able to reproduce as well.
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  3161. # [22:36] <rstrong> I don't have a beta build locally (yet) to verify that things work as expected.
  3162. # [22:37] <catlee> ah crap
  3163. # [22:37] <catlee> the machine is stuck on the relbranch
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  3166. # [22:38] <catlee> I'll rebuild
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  3168. # [22:39] <rstrong> catlee: if it makes it easier for you I could give you a patch to make nightly build it though you would have to have an existing finished build and do a couple of manual steps
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  3170. # [22:40] <rstrong> might be more of a pain though
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  3175. # [22:41] <catlee> rstrong: yeah, it's easier to update this one
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  3178. # [22:41] <GijsK> dolske: ping
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  3183. # [22:42] <rstrong> catlee: just to confirm... it didn't contain the fix?
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  3188. # [22:43] <rstrong> catlee: also run make in the <obj-dir>/browser/branding/official dir
  3189. # [22:43] <catlee> rstrong: correct
  3190. # [22:43] <catlee> again?
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  3192. # [22:43] <rstrong> catlee: not necessary if you are doing rebuilding vs. just running make installer
  3193. # [22:44] <catlee> I'm just running make installer
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  3195. # [22:44] <rstrong> catlee: there were changes to branding.nsi in the branding dir.
  3196. # [22:45] <rstrong> so yes, that is necessary
  3197. # [22:45] <mwu> mbrubeck: ping
  3198. # [22:45] <rstrong> unless it was already updated
  3199. # [22:45] <mbrubeck> mwu: pong
  3200. # [22:45] <rstrong> it doesn't take long either
  3201. # [22:45] <catlee> rstrong: depends if that was before or after b4
  3202. # [22:45] <mwu> mbrubeck: what does your patch for bug 834584 do?
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  3207. # [22:46] <mwu> mbrubeck: btw I'm 80% sure this is a vendor specific touchscreen bug and I'm going to talk to them about it
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  3210. # [22:46] <mbrubeck> mwu: It sets gPreventMouseEvents only when preventDefault is called on touchstart (not touchmove)
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  3212. # [22:46] <rstrong> catlee: actually skip that... it had everything before bug 848794 so it shouldn't be necessary
  3213. # [22:47] <mwu> ahh. is that per spec? I thought mouse events could be canceled from anywhere
  3214. # [22:47] <mbrubeck> mwu: Yeah, the bug will only be triggered if a touchmove gets dispatched during a "tap" which depends on the sensitivity/responsiveness of the driver
  3215. # [22:47] * rstrong was confusing the changes in the previous stub patch and the last patch
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  3217. # [22:47] <mbrubeck> mwu: The spec doesn't specify an exact mapping of touch event default actions -> mouse events, but see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834584#c40
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  3219. # [22:49] <mwu> mbrubeck: ahh ok
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  3222. # [22:49] <mwu> mbrubeck: yeah I think that really is the right behavior then
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  3224. # [22:49] <mwu> this touch driver is still weird, but that sounds strictly better
  3225. # [22:49] <mbrubeck> smaug doesn't like B2G's TabChild code though. :P
  3226. # [22:49] <mwu> assuming that there's no pages out there that this would break
  3227. # [22:50] <mbrubeck> mwu: I think this brings B2G into better alignment with Fennec, WebKit, etc.
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  3230. # [22:50] <mwu> the TabChild.cpp was a bit of a mess when I last took a peak
  3231. # [22:50] <mbrubeck> so it's more likely to *unbreak* pages
  3232. # [22:50] <lduros> hi, RMS asked me if he could reach one of the core Firefox developers by email (regarding a question about a feature) would anyone like to volunteer to be contacted by him?
  3233. # [22:50] <mwu> fair enough
  3234. # [22:50] <lduros> he only does emails
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  3238. # [22:50] <mwu> and we won't even have to get the vendor to fix their driver
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  3241. # [22:50] <Callek> ehsan: is this your "out" of editor/ -- or are you remaining its owner even after transition?
  3242. # [22:51] <@ehsan> Callek: until I can find a victim, I'll be the owner I assume ;)
  3243. # [22:51] <Callek> (also congrats)
  3244. # [22:51] <Callek> you could try and victim kaze to own it, I suspect
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  3250. # [22:52] <mwu> mbrubeck: this is the sort of change we should get in ASAP then..
  3251. # [22:53] <@ehsan> Callek: thanks :)
  3252. # [22:53] <mwu> web facing behavior changes
  3253. # [22:53] <mbrubeck> yeah
  3254. # [22:54] <mbrubeck> I can't own this bug, though (I have no B2G hardware or dev experience, no real knowledge of PresShell/widget/TabChild code....)
  3255. # [22:54] <mbrubeck> so I hope someone can pick up my patch and run with it
  3256. # [22:54] <jgilbert> lduros: dev-platform seems like the place to start, not knowing what the question is about
  3257. # [22:54] <catlee> rstrong: can you try http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/candidates/20.0b4-candidates/build1/firefox-20.0.en-US.win32.installer-stub.exe ?
  3258. # [22:54] <rstrong> catlee: will do right now
  3259. # [22:54] <catlee> sha1sum ec7b8dbee5361fe0ea0c7c9c7cf7736589b3c55a
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  3262. # [22:56] * Waldo wonders what this transition is Callek's mentioning
  3263. # [22:56] <Callek> Waldo: I'll let ehsan comment, I'm not sure how public it can/should be yet
  3264. # [22:56] <clokep> Mossop: ping
  3265. # [22:56] <Callek> (he's not leaving moz, if thats what you're wondering)
  3266. # [22:57] <@ehsan> Waldo: I'm moving to the WebAPI team :)
  3267. # [22:57] <jhammel> oh, the rewriting firefox as a chrome extension? heard it already
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  3269. # [22:57] <@ehsan> and no, I'm not leaving!
  3270. # [22:57] <Waldo> okay; I looked the usual places (.platform, blog) and didn't see anything :-)
  3271. # [22:57] <Waldo> that's right, you'd better not :-P
  3272. # [22:57] <rstrong> catlee: that fixes it and I verified the missing functionality is also now present. Thanks!
  3273. # [22:57] <@ehsan> yeah, I guess I need to blog at some point ;)
  3274. # [22:57] <Waldo> the beatings will continue until morale improves
  3275. # [22:57] <Callek> ehsan: you could create an API to ease blogging!
  3276. # [22:57] * Callek ducks
  3277. # [22:58] <@ehsan> that won't help with me blogging more frequently!
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  3279. # [22:58] <mwu> mbrubeck: is cpeterson around to look at it?
  3280. # [22:58] <catlee> rstrong: ok, I'll sign it
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  3283. # [22:58] * Waldo wonders when Gecko will support the Web Blog 1.0 standard
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  3286. # [22:59] <Callek> ehsan: if I could blog to draft, directly on my mobile, via audible speach (even better if said draft had a way to offer speach-to-text suggestions) I'd blog more
  3287. # [22:59] <rstrong> catlee: I'm going to add the changeset to the stub to help with troubleshooting and identifying these types of issues
  3288. # [22:59] <Callek> such that when I'm driving/out I could write a blog, without derailing me too much from when I am actually working/doing other stuff
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  3291. # [23:00] <@ehsan> Callek: there's a wordpress app for android which I installed and never used!
  3292. # [23:00] <Callek> oo is there?
  3293. # [23:00] * Callek should give it a shot as well
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  3297. # [23:00] <Waldo> I installed it on the phone I carried last summer, thinking I might try it
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  3299. # [23:01] <jhammel> Callek: likewise for me s/blog/bug file and comment/
  3300. # [23:01] <mwu> mbrubeck: hm, so the interesting thing is that I see a comment suggesting that preventDefault works on the 1st touch move event
  3301. # [23:01] <Waldo> in practice there was no way I was going to type out that much prose on a phone
  3302. # [23:01] <mwu> have you seen that?
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  3304. # [23:01] <mwu> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp#6962
  3305. # [23:01] <jhammel> Callek: i in fact do "blog" on my phone quite a bit, though do hope to write a front end on b2g since i can't bring myself to write friggin android
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  3308. # [23:04] <mwu> the code does look like it permits preventDefault on the very first touch move
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  3310. # [23:04] <mwu> which wouldn't help in this case..
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  3312. # [23:05] <mwu> seems like a pretty odd behavior though
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  3327. # [23:10] <WeirdAl> XUL's box model and images mix really, really poorly :(
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  3335. # [23:16] <mbrubeck> mwu: That logic is meant for scrolling... you can prevent scrolling by calling preventDefault on touchstart, or on the first touchmove
  3336. # [23:17] <mwu> ah ok
  3337. # [23:17] <mbrubeck> After that we can go into a fastpath where we no longer let content prevent scrolling
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  3351. # [23:22] <mayhemer> ted: is bug 8500889 fixed in mozilla-inbound?
  3352. # [23:22] <mayhemer> bug 850089
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  3355. # [23:22] <lduros> jgilbert: dev-platform?
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  3358. # [23:23] <philor> mayhemer: yes
  3359. # [23:23] <lduros> jgilbert: https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ??
  3360. # [23:23] <mayhemer> philor: and it's all in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b366545161d
  3361. # [23:24] <philor> yep
  3362. # [23:24] <mayhemer> philor: thanks
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  3364. # [23:24] <lduros> jgilbert: is there something more "private"?
  3365. # [23:24] <philor> mayhemer: and even though you don't want to, you'll probably have to clobber that broken objdir, I doubt it'll recover
  3366. # [23:25] <mayhemer> philor: grrrrrrrr.... another 25 lost minutes... :)
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  3368. # [23:25] <jgilbert> lduros: can talk to specific people, but to get the right people we need to know what the question is about
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  3370. # [23:26] <NeilAway> Waldo: :-P
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  3372. # [23:26] <lduros> jgilbert: he wants to know if there's a way to tell that an extension is impacting such or such site/window in the browser
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  3374. # [23:27] <lduros> jgilbert: given that an extension can impact the browser in many ways, this is a broad question
  3375. # [23:27] <mayhemer> philor: that patch is unapplyable on m-c.. but it's not yet landed there...
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  3377. # [23:27] <mayhemer> philor: all hanks fail..
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  3379. # [23:27] <bsmith> glandium: besides this wallpaper fix for the GCC bug that causes NSS to be miscompiled, is there a bug for upgrading to a fixed NDK and/or a hacked NDK with a fixed GCC?
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  3381. # [23:28] <bsmith> because, I am worried that, though this wallpaper seems to work for the issue we found, we could add new code at any time that would trigger it
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  3385. # [23:29] <lduros> jgilbert: I'd like to give him John-Galt email since he is particularly awesome at answering people's questions with a positive attitude
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  3387. # [23:30] <John-Galt> o.O
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  3389. # [23:30] <lduros> John-Galt: Could RMS contact you for a question regarding extensions?
  3390. # [23:31] <lduros> he can only do emails
  3391. # [23:31] <lduros> ha ha
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  3393. # [23:31] <@roc> gah, gdb in Fedora 18 can't evaluate nsFrame::DumpFrameTree(this)
  3394. # [23:31] <John-Galt> ... Why?
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  3397. # [23:32] <catlee> rstrong: I've signed it and put it up in the same location
  3398. # [23:32] <@roc> but it can when I'm debugging b2g!
  3399. # [23:32] <@roc> debugging b2g works better than debugging in the host. This must be some kind of record.
  3400. # [23:32] <jgilbert> it would be much easier for him to just ask in here if he has a question
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  3402. # [23:33] <lduros> jgilbert: he doesn't go on irc
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  3404. # [23:33] <lduros> whenever he gets a connection, he downloads all his emails in a batch, and send all his emails in a batch
  3405. # [23:33] <John-Galt> WeirdAl: Are you using XUL images?
  3406. # [23:33] <rstrong> catlee: could you send out an email to that affect... in a meeting atm
  3407. # [23:33] <lduros> he is on the go most of the time... anyway
  3408. # [23:33] <WeirdAl> yeah
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  3411. # [23:34] <John-Galt> WeirdAl: Should work fine...
  3412. # [23:34] <WeirdAl> and trying to do it without the stretchiness... I already found a MDN code snippet that worked *once*, only I lost the exact match I had...
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  3415. # [23:34] <WeirdAl> trying to get it back now
  3416. # [23:34] * njn just got a clang error message that was unhelpful enough he had to recompile with GCC to understand it... not a common experience
  3417. # [23:34] <jgilbert> lduros: dev-platform is still best, but you could try asking around based on the area of expertise
  3418. # [23:34] <John-Galt> lduros: Why does he need to email me?
  3419. # [23:35] <@roc> ehsan: pong
  3420. # [23:35] <@ehsan> roc: I was trying to make sense of the pseudo code that you wrote in the bug...
  3421. # [23:35] <@ehsan> I have something written up now based on that
  3422. # [23:35] <lduros> John-Galt: he asked me how he could reach mozilla folks because he'd like to know if there's a way to detect when an extension operates on the browser, which sites it may affect, which window
  3423. # [23:35] <@ehsan> and there are some rough edges....
  3424. # [23:35] <lduros> I'm just executing the orders :)
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  3427. # [23:36] <@ehsan> oh, and on top of that, things don't work yet
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  3429. # [23:36] <@ehsan> roc: but I don't have any specific questions form you now...
  3430. # [23:36] <@ehsan> will ping again if needed
  3431. # [23:36] <jgilbert> lduros: if it's a binary extesion I would think that'd be tricky
  3432. # [23:36] <jgilbert> lduros: maybe khuey knows more
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  3434. # [23:37] <WeirdAl> Mook_as: you guys stink for making me upgrade ;)
  3435. # [23:37] <lduros> hmm, so maybe I should just tell him to shoot khuey an email then
  3436. # [23:37] <lduros> ...
  3437. # [23:37] <@ehsan> roc: oh, what's that max length param supposed to do?
  3438. # [23:37] <lduros> it's just an email anyway
  3439. # [23:37] <lduros> :)
  3440. # [23:37] <@ehsan> roc: we do need to compute how many frames to write in the caller anyways, right?
  3441. # [23:37] <@roc> no
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  3443. # [23:37] <Mook_as> WeirdAl: yeah, sorry, we should at least have been clearer about just how obsolete you are ;)
  3444. # [23:38] <@roc> one bug in that pseudocode is that CopyFromBuffer needs to not advance beyond mStop if it started before mStop
  3445. # [23:38] <WeirdAl> Mook_as: so that "free" software's going to cost me a couple thousand bucks to use ;)
  3446. # [23:38] <@roc> I'll mention that in the bug.
  3447. # [23:38] <@ehsan> hrm
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  3450. # [23:39] <WeirdAl> and worse than that, you don't get a penny of it... I really should go get the IDE
  3451. # [23:39] <@ehsan> roc: was that no a response to "we do need to compute the number of frames in the caller"?
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  3455. # [23:39] <@roc> yes
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  3459. # [23:40] <@ehsan> roc: then how would we know how many bytes to copy/zero?
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  3463. # [23:43] <@roc> basically it's "as much as you can subject to the constraints I wrote in the comments"
  3464. # [23:43] <@roc> i.e., don't run off the end of the output buffer; don't advance beyond aMaxPos or aBufferMax; and for CopyFromBuffer, don't advance beyond mStop
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  3468. # [23:44] <@ehsan> roc: is |offset| in your pseudocode same as mOffset?
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  3470. # [23:44] <@roc> it's the offset parameter passed to start(), so yes
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  3472. # [23:45] <@ehsan> hmm
  3473. # [23:45] <@ehsan> let me think for a second
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  3477. # [23:46] <@ehsan> roc: hmm, this might work, need to give it a shot
  3478. # [23:46] <njn> Profiler: ----------------- MOZ_PROFILER_NEW not set -----------------
  3479. # [23:46] <njn> ORLY
  3480. # [23:47] <njn> even in an opt build, huh?
  3481. # [23:47] <@roc> I might have a bug in the non-looping case with the way it uses mDuration
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  3483. # [23:47] <@ehsan> it's ok
  3484. # [23:47] <@ehsan> roc: I originally missed the main idea, that is, for these functions to figure out the number of frames to write on their own
  3485. # [23:47] <@ehsan> roc: and the resulting code is a mess ;)
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  3487. # [23:47] <@roc> ok
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  3489. # [23:47] <@roc> yes
  3490. # [23:48] <@ehsan> so let me rewrite this thing
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  3493. # [23:49] <@ehsan> roc: oh, one missing piece of information is the initial current position, and I guess I can just save that and pass it around
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  3495. # [23:50] <rstrong> catlee: email sent
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  3499. # [23:53] <@ehsan> roc: actually I guess that's not needed
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  3509. # [23:57] <mayhemer> mozilla-central is broken
  3510. # [23:58] <mayhemer> either with crash reported enable or disabled I cannot build
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  3513. # [23:58] <mayhemer> hitting bug 850089
  3514. # [23:58] <mayhemer> the patch that landed on m-i in that bug in unapplyable on m-c, the patch submitted to that bug produces a different build issue
  3515. # [23:59] <mayhemer> ah... wait... there is one more chance!
  3516. # [23:59] <mayhemer> I modified a wrong mozconfig
  3517. # Session Close: Wed Mar 13 00:00:00 2013

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