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# [00:00] <@roc> yes, nodes that do audio output would be excluded too
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# [00:01] <@ehsan> roc: ok good idea, let me see if I can hack up a patch
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# [00:02] <@ehsan> roc: this is where we add the output chunk, right? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/AudioNodeStream.cpp#271
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# [00:05] <@roc> yes
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# [00:16] <@ehsan> roc: still around?
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# [00:16] <@roc> of course
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# [00:17] <@ehsan> roc: so another problem that I'm facing is that of the lingering audio nodes
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# [00:17] <@ehsan> the only type of audio streams that are correctly finished are buffer source nodes
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# [00:18] <@ehsan> the rest of ProduceAudioBlock functions can never set *aFinished to true...
# [00:18] <@ehsan> I'm not sure how I should fix that...
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# [00:21] <@roc> sounds like it needs debugging.
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# [00:22] <@ehsan> roc: what's the correct way to delete the nsAudioStream's that are no longer useful?
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# [00:25] <@roc> nsAudioStream?
# [00:25] <@roc> that's only on the destination node
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# [00:26] <@ehsan> roc: sorry, I meant AudioNodeStream
# [00:26] <@roc> so you have a buffer source node feeding into a GainNode feeding into the destination node, and the GainNode isn't being released?
# [00:27] <@roc> the GainNode should call SetProduceOwnOutput(false) when it's created; are you doing that?
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# [00:28] <@ehsan> roc: no!
# [00:28] <@ehsan> roc: isn't the default false though?
# [00:28] <@roc> hmm yes it is
# [00:28] <@roc> OK
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# [00:29] <@roc> maybe UpdateOutputEnded isn't being called
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# [00:30] <@ehsan> roc: let me check that
# [00:30] <@roc> I gotta go to lunch but here's what should be happening
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# [00:31] <philor> probably nobody wants to have opinions about the odds of mccr8 causing those MemoryErrors during Windows builds, so I should just back him out, right?
# [00:32] <@roc> AudioNode::UpdateOutputEnded gets called on the AudioBufferSourceNode, which calls UpdateOutputEnded on the GainNode, which should then kill it
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# [00:35] <@ehsan> roc: UpdateOutputEnded does get called, but the node doesn't go away since it still has a JS binding and inputs
# [00:36] <@ehsan> philor: I guess
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# [00:37] <philor> ugh, backing out a touch of CLOBBER
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# [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d75e34da1a9f - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 2ea5f267af77:218356c595fc (bug 827486) for Windows builds dying with an obscure "MemoryError"
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# [00:40] <@ehsan> roc: gah, found the bug!!!
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# [00:46] <gps> philor: bug 851975 scares me. there might be some ugly bustage in the near future
# [00:47] <philor> gps: yeah, I'm looking at some directories, trying to get from denial to the point of closing every trunk tree
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# [00:51] <gps> philor: I have r+. should I land this on inbound?
# [00:52] <philor> gps: so https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/moz.build#7 would be preventing layout/style/test/ from being built, so https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/test/test_transitions_cancel_near_end.html?force=1 wouldn't get run, so https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630324#c168 wouldn't have happened even though it did?
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# [00:52] <gps> philor: some directories might have been referenced from multiple places
# [00:53] <philor> hah, fun
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# [00:53] <philor> m-c, please, I'll watch it there
# [00:53] <gps> actually, no, that shouldn't happen
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# [00:54] <philor> I'm not convinced the tip of inbound will be mergeable
# [00:54] <philor> though I'm also not yet convinced that 851975 exists :)
# [00:55] <philor> after all, if we weren't running all those tests, wouldn't I be happy? QED.
# [00:55] <gps> philor: it's not as bad as I think. comment forthcoming
# [00:55] <gps> you're going to like this one...
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# [00:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a9a25781850e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 851975 - Don't use conditionals in backend.mk; r=ted
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# [00:58] <gps> wait. I need to read the make manual first...
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# [00:58] <philor> I've tried reading it, you're not going to be back any time soon
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# [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9a25781850e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 851975 - Don't use conditionals in backend.mk; r=ted
# [01:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0336cae0815 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
# [01:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa0fc30a3c2e - Luke Wagner - Disable OdinMonkey on OSX until we can get Breakpad to cooperate (no bug, r=me)
# [01:13] <Callek> odinmonkey!?
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# [01:15] <philor> *~
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# [01:27] <tbsaunde> arg hg-- # can't qimport pushed changesets
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# [01:28] <Jesse> tbsaunde: after pushing to try, or pushing to a "real" repo?
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# [01:29] <Jesse> tbsaunde: which hg version?
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# [01:30] <tbsaunde> Jesse: real repo
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# [01:30] <tbsaunde> Jesse: and 2.2.2
# [01:31] <Jesse> current is 2.5.2 btw
# [01:31] <Jesse> why do you want to qimport something you've already pushed?
# [01:31] * @dolske wonders how that make manual reading is going.
# [01:31] <tbsaunde> Jesse: sure, but I have 0 interest in not using the distro shipped one
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# [01:32] <gps> dolske: I started drinking a barleywine instead
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# [01:32] <@dolske> acceptable
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# [01:32] <@roc> ehsan: what was the bug?
# [01:32] <@ehsan> roc: we don't know whether the JS binding has been finalized or not...
# [01:33] <@ehsan> roc: btw, I have a patch for the ForgetUpTo bug
# [01:33] <@ehsan> which is almost ready for review
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# [01:33] <@roc> why don't we know that?
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# [01:34] <@ehsan> roc: the Web IDL binding patch never landed :(
# [01:34] <@ehsan> I had forgot about it...
# [01:34] <@roc> aha!
# [01:34] <njn> tbsaunde: 2.2.2 has a bug that can cause blame data to be clobbered when you rebase; 2.5 fixes that
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# [01:35] <@ehsan> roc: ok, patch is up for review
# [01:37] <Jesse> njn, tbsaunde: we're starting to deploy a hook to contain the damage, but yeah, updating to hg 2.5+ is a good idea. <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846953>
# [01:38] <njn> tbsaunde: there's a dev-platform thread about it where several people describe how they updated (on LInux)
# [01:38] <tbsaunde> njn: Jesse I don't rebase with hg so I don't really care (and really only use it to push)
# [01:39] <tbsaunde> njn: I'm absolutely sure I could if I wanted, the point is that I don't want to have to keep updating myself
# [01:39] <njn> tbsaunde: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/rp_Ff3_GpL4 is the thread
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# [01:39] <njn> tbsaunde: at some point you'll need to update in order to push, due to bug 846953
# [01:40] <njn> tbsaunde: here's what I did: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2224284
# [01:40] <njn> tbsaunde: that gets you on the "latest" version, so it should update automaticaly in the future
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# [01:42] <tbsaunde> njn: uhm doesn't that check for actually broken changesets not just ones that come from old hg?
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# [01:42] <@ehsan> roc: ok, I fixed up that patch to apply to trunk, and I'll try it now
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# [01:43] <njn> tbsaunde: oh, does it? then you'd be ok if you never rebase. But then I ask, why do you never rebase?
# [01:44] <markh> the use of mq means I rarely rebase in hg - the only times I do is when I lose a push-race. So ironically, I only rebase when pushing...
# [01:44] <@ehsan> luke: ping
# [01:44] <tbsaunde> njn: I always rebase in git before exporting patches since its easier
# [01:45] <njn> markh: the use of mq means I rebase in hg all the time...
# [01:45] <njn> tbsaunde: ah, ok
# [01:45] <njn> markh: you don't qpop and then re-qpush every time you update, do you?
# [01:45] <markh> njn: yeah, I do
# [01:45] <njn> markh: |hg rebase| is *way* better
# [01:45] <njn> markh: because it does three-way merges, so conflicts are much less likey and get resolved more easily
# [01:46] * jcranmer|away does hg pul --rebase
# [01:46] <njn> markh: yeah, I meant |hg pull --rebase|
# [01:46] <njn> markh: you should try it, really
# [01:47] <markh> yeah, sounds like I should!
# [01:48] <njn> markh: it avoids the problem where some tiny thing has changed and so you have to manually fix up a large rejected hunk
# [01:48] <njn> markh: instead you just have to resolve the conflict on the tiny change
# [01:49] <markh> typically I only have 2 or 3 patches applied out of, say, 10 in the queue. "hg pull --rebase" will only solve that for the 2 or 3 applied when I do the pull (I guess). Is your workflow similar, or do you typically have most of your queue applied when updating?
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# [01:51] <nthomas> glandium: ping
# [01:51] <jcranmer|away> markh: I update infrequently, so I tend to push all of my patches before rebasing
# [01:51] <@ehsan> roc: so, one question: how much total time would you expect UpdateCurrentTime() to take?
# [01:51] <jcranmer|away> but most of my bitrotting is self-bitrot anyways
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# [01:56] <vlad> anyone know how I do a build with a crashreporter? I did --enable-crashreporter, but if I kill the resulting process I don't actually get the reporter
# [01:56] <vlad> so I suspect I need to do something else to get it to actually tigger
# [01:57] <@roc> ehsan: "not much"?
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# [01:57] <tbsaunde> vlad: yeah, I think you need to set some env var for local builds
# [01:58] <@ehsan> vlad: there's a MOZ_CRASHREPORTER env var iirc
# [01:58] <vlad> bingo
# [01:58] <vlad> thanks
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# [01:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c87e1fe617d - Gregory Szorc - Bug 844635 - Part 2: Don't require Makefile.in to exist; r=glandium
# [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/336b6586074e - Gregory Szorc - Bug 844635 - Part 3: Remove empty Makefile.in files; r=glandium
# [01:59] <Callek> also I don't *think* SIGKILL triggers it
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# [01:59] <Callek> but I suspect ted or others can tell you more/better
# [02:00] <@ehsan> roc: do you have any idea what a "normal" number of streams looks like?
# [02:00] <@ehsan> roc: in my test case I have about 70 of them
# [02:00] <@ehsan> is that too much?
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# [02:01] <Jesse> vlad: need a crash testcase to test the crash reporter? plenty here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=reporter%3Ajrud%20kw%3Acrash%20kw%3Atestcase
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# [02:02] <Jesse> env vars for crash reporter are https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Environment_variables_affecting_crash_reporting
# [02:02] <@roc> ehsan: Web Audio will use a lot more streams than we did otherwise, that's expected.
# [02:02] <Jesse> you'll probably also want a minidump_stackwalk
# [02:02] <@ehsan> roc: phew :)
# [02:03] <gps> crap. I forgot to update clobber on that last inbound push
# [02:03] <Callek> gps: push an updated clobber, with DONTBUILD :-P
# [02:04] <Callek> (as in, o so evil)
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# [02:04] <jcranmer|away> does it really matter to update the CLOBBER file?
# [02:05] <Callek> yes :-P
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# [02:06] <tbsaunde> Callek: so that people will be sure to touch it before kicking off there builds? :-P
# [02:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a0951f42b0b - Gregory Szorc - Bug 844635 - Update CLOBBER; r=me DONTBUILD
# [02:06] <Callek> tbsaunde: so that when it merges to another tree it forces us to know we need to clobber
# [02:06] <Callek> gps: also was half joking about DONTBUILD, since we still need to mark clobber (again) for the clobber file change
# [02:07] <tbsaunde> Callek: I suppose that makes sense
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# [02:10] <@ehsan> roc: so now UpdateCurrentTime takes ~34% of the time on the MSG thread for me, which is about twice as long as we sleep in that thread
# [02:10] <@ehsan> roc: I'm still not quite happy with that
# [02:11] <jlebar> Has anyone had success building FF with xcode 4.6.1? I keep getting bugged to upgrade, but at least at one point there were issues.
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# [02:11] <@ehsan> jlebar: I upgraded a couple of days ago but have not noticed any problems
# [02:11] <@ehsan> jlebar: but I use my own compiler
# [02:11] <jlebar> ehsan: Ah, you use your own build of llvm?
# [02:11] <@ehsan> so that's just using the linker + os headers/libs
# [02:11] <jlebar> I see, okay.
# [02:11] <@ehsan> jlebar: yeah, as so should everybody ;)
# [02:12] <@ehsan> the less you rely on apple the merrier ;)
# [02:12] <tbsaunde> ehsan: then just run linux ;)
# [02:13] <@ehsan> that's... another conversation ;)
# [02:13] <tbsaunde> 0haha
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# [02:14] <Callek> use windows instead of Linux/OSX
# [02:14] <Callek> and then Virtualbox for everything you can't normally do in windows
# [02:14] <Callek> (which is sadly, a lot)
# [02:14] <@ehsan> Callek: so, use VirtualBox for day to day work? ;)
# [02:15] <jcranmer|away> ehsan: it's what I do
# [02:15] <Callek> ehsan: yea, I'm on windows myself, which in releng is quite odd.... I'm tempted to have work give me a linux laptop soon, for my day-to-day, since using virtualbox, or remote systems for the basic stuff is a PITA
# [02:16] <@ehsan> I hear you
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# [02:30] <@roc> ehsan: yes, that's not good. A more detailed profile would be helpful
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# [02:33] <@ehsan> roc: JSBindingFinalized
# [02:33] <@ehsan> oh
# [02:34] <@ehsan> roc: http://grab.by/kNcm
# [02:34] <@ehsan> :)
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# [02:35] <@ehsan> roc: no big offenders, just wasting time on array manipulations... :/
# [02:36] <@roc> still spending 16% in ForgetUpTo which seems high
# [02:36] <@roc> dunno where the rest is going
# [02:36] <@roc> maybe some of the array stuff would benefit from Auto-izing
# [02:37] <@ehsan> yeah I'll give that a shot
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# [02:38] <@roc> watch out for the "autoarray in array" footgun
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# [02:51] <@ehsan> roc: what's that?
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# [02:55] <njn> another crappy custom allocator bites the dust
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# [02:57] <JonathanS> I am wondering why Firefox has too much custom allocator?
# [02:58] <njn> JonathanS: I don't understand the question
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# [03:02] <philor> really, the only way to make it work involves "Step 1. Close the tree in question"
# [03:02] <JonathanS> njn, was there is like 20 custom allocators in Firefox?
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# [03:03] <Jesse> JonathanS: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847248#c20
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# [03:03] <njn> JonathanS: not that many. I've removed two of note: nsFixedSizeAllocator and nsRecyclingAllocator
# [03:03] <tbsaunde> philor: and since every other patch needs a clobber clearly we should just close the tree period ;)
# [03:03] <njn> JonathanS: and fixed problems in some of the other ones, notably PLArenaPool
# [03:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/246083a5c939 - Joe Drew - Bug 851985 - Mark tests that don't reliably block onload (or loadeddata) as random. r=doublec
# [03:05] <philor> tbsaunde: yeah, I say we just make RyanVM push everything
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# [04:06] <philor> sigh
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# [04:06] <philor> is https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0bbb5cacadaf only broken because it forgot to call finish()?
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# [04:07] <philor> no, since it would still leave the window open
# [04:07] <philor> tbsaunde: sorry, backing you out again
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# [04:13] <@roc> ehsan: if you try to use nsTArray<T> where T contains a member that's an nsAutoTArray, you lose
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# [04:13] <@roc> nsTArrays memmove their storage and nsAutoTArray keeps an internal pointer to its buffer, so memmoving breaks it
# [04:13] <ekr> Say I have some xpidl interface and I now want to implement the class. Is there some way to autogenerate stubs?
# [04:14] <@roc> XPIDL or WebIDL?
# [04:14] <ekr> (The context is that the interface is an observer and I want to ignore like 80% of the stuff)
# [04:14] <ekr> XPIDL
# [04:14] <@roc> XPIDL-generated .h files contain a stub
# [04:14] <ekr> Hmm....
# [04:14] <ekr> Do I need a different macro?
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# [04:15] <@roc> you'd probably have to copy and paste it
# [04:15] <ekr> Or just don't do NS_DECL_FOO
# [04:15] <@roc> see /* Use the code below as a template for the implementation class for this interface. */
# [04:15] <ekr> That seems rather wasteful.
# [04:16] <@roc> what observer interface are you implmeenting?
# [04:16] <ekr> IPeerConnectionObserver
# [04:18] <ekr> Yeah, so that appears to be pure virtual
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# [04:18] <ekr> which is going to make things sad when I try to instantiate it
# [04:18] <@roc> might be worth creating a StubPeerConnectionObserver class that ignores all the methods and inheriting fromthat
# [04:18] <ekr> So, what I was kind of hoping here was that there would be a macro that would do that so that then when someone adds a new OnFoo method, my code continued to compile
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# [04:19] <@roc> another thing to consider is whether IPeerConnectionObserver really needs to be scriptable ... if it doesn't, it can be replaced with a plain C++ .h file that can define default implementations for the mehtods
# [04:19] <@roc> I don't see how you would do that in C++
# [04:19] <tbsaunde> philor: it'll anoy you more than me :p
# [04:19] <ekr> What do you mean? If the generated interface just wasn't pure virtual, everything would work fine.
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# [04:20] <ekr> Like, I would only override the fxns I needed.
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# [04:21] <ekr> whereas if I create a stub, I'll have to update the stub, right?
# [04:21] <jesup|laptop> yup - or whomever adds the method will have to
# [04:21] <ekr> jesup|laptop: So, that seems sort of pessimal
# [04:21] <@ehsan> roc: wow!
# [04:22] <@roc> wow?
# [04:23] <@roc> at least if there's a shared stub class only one other class needs to be updated
# [04:23] <ekr> sure, but wouldn't a better fix to be to have the idl compiler autogenerate that shared stub class?
# [04:23] <@roc> I suppose one could extend XPIDL to have an attribute that generates a return NS_OK body...
# [04:23] <ekr> Seeing as it's already spewing out the template into the .h file in any case?
# [04:23] <jesup|laptop> It's possible that 'someone' thought that have a macro-ized default impl that's always overridden would cause wasteful dead code (which may be eliminated by the linker, of course)
# [04:23] <tbsaunde> ekr: seems less bad than somebody forgeting to implement something
# [04:24] <ekr> tbsaunde: but that's the nature of observers
# [04:24] <ekr> I'm not forgetting to implement stuff, I want to ignore 95% of it
# [04:24] <jesup|laptop> sounds like you want ObjC instead of c++ ;-) (IIRC)
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# [04:24] <tbsaunde> ekr: I guess a stub that wasn't the default wouldn't be too bad
# [04:25] <ekr> jesup: why would you say that? This is totally doable in C++, it's just that the IDL compiler deliberately doesn't do it.
# [04:25] <tbsaunde> ekr: but what happens when you add a new method and all the impls need to actually define it?
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# [04:26] <tbsaunde> like sure we *could& fix it but 1 why are you using xpidl in the first place, and 2 is NS_IMETHODIMP foo::Bar() { return NS_OK; } really that bad?
# [04:26] <ekr> tbsaunde: I'd be fine with having some way to tag the idl so that things didn't get stubs
# [04:27] <ekr> tbsaunde: I'm not using xpidl. Someone else wrote an interface that used xpidl like a year ago and now I'm just stuck implementing the interface. I'm writing a unit test, a refactor shouldn't be required here.
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# [04:28] <ekr> As for whether writing NS_IMETHODIMP foo::Bar() { return NS_OK; } is bad, there are 19 observer methods and I care about two, so yeah, it's pretty lame
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# [04:29] <@roc> ehsan: which TimeVarying<> array was causing this badness?
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# [04:29] <@ehsan> roc: one or all of the ones modified in AdvanceTimeVaryingValuesToCurrentTime
# [04:29] <@ehsan> roc: hard to say since that function is inlined
# [04:30] <jesup|laptop> ekr: just that dynamic OO languages tend to default to ignoring unknown methods (haven't done ObjC in ages, so I can't remember for sure about it)
# [04:30] <tbsaunde> ekr: if you want to spend time working on the xpidl compiler I'm not going to stop you, but imo that time is better spent refactoring stuff to not use xpidl in the first place
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# [04:30] * @roc agrees
# [04:31] <ekr> tbsaunde: no, I'm just going to cut copy and paste all this nonsense, since that's the easiest path forward.
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# [04:32] <@roc> ehsan: I'd quite like to know
# [04:32] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [04:33] <@roc> because in the steady state I'd hope most of those arrays are empty
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# [04:35] <@ehsan> roc: ok, let me think of how I can find out...
# [04:35] <@ehsan> roc: problem is, I can't debug this testcase :(
# [04:35] <@roc> you don't have the code?
# [04:35] <@ehsan> I guess I can log |this| and also all of the TimeVarying addresses and try to find a match?
# [04:36] <@ehsan> roc: I do, but it's huge and uses asm.js
# [04:36] <@ehsan> which is not debugger friendly
# [04:36] <@roc> why don't you just attach a debugger and inspect the current contents of the arrays?
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# [04:36] <ekr> it's wasteful, but less effort than cleaning up the rest of the mess
# [04:36] <@roc> by breaking in a random invocation of UpdateCurrentTime?
# [04:37] <@roc> hmm, so we have asm.js calling into Web Audio now? That's pretty cool :-)
# [04:37] <@ehsan> roc: yeah we do!
# [04:38] <@ehsan> through a bunch of FFI interfaces of course
# [04:38] <@ehsan> read: dog slo
# [04:38] <@ehsan> *slow
# [04:38] <@ehsan> roc: problem is that asm.js uses segfaults, and I have not managed to get gdb do the right thing when it's attached
# [04:38] <@roc> because of the asm.js overhead for making outside calls?
# [04:39] <@ehsan> yeah
# [04:39] <@ehsan> asm.js->regular js is super expensive now
# [04:39] <@roc> is Luke going to fix that in time?
# [04:39] <@ehsan> and my OpenAL implementation is in regular js
# [04:39] <@ehsan> not sure if that will happen before GDC
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# [04:40] <@ehsan> azakai has been writing a bunch of asm.js libc implementations to avoid the cost in very hot calls
# [04:40] <@ehsan> which is super cool!
# [04:40] <@roc> ok, another option is to dump code into UpdateCurrentTime to log if a particular changes array has more changes than some shreshold
# [04:41] <@ehsan> mChanges has 1 member in most of the call sites that I instrumented
# [04:41] <@ehsan> and 2 or 3 in some others
# [04:41] <@ehsan> but give me a sec
# [04:41] <@ehsan> I may just be able to extract this info without a debugger ;)
# [04:41] <@ehsan> debuggers are overrated ;)
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# [04:42] <vlad> ted: around?
# [04:42] <vlad> ehsan: oh, I asked luke earlier
# [04:42] <vlad> ehsan: about the segfaults and stuff
# [04:42] <@ehsan> what did he say?
# [04:42] <vlad> ehsan: he said the easiest thing is to just disable the asmjs exception handler installation
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# [04:43] <vlad> in js/src/ion/AsmJS.cpp
# [04:43] <vlad> look for EnsureAsmJSSignalHandlersInstalled
# [04:43] <vlad> and just comment it out, rebuild js/src
# [04:43] <vlad> and then just know that you can get owned through that browser :D
# [04:43] <@ehsan> heh nice
# [04:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02b242697afb - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 850523 (part 1) - Add a "js-main-runtime-temporary-peak" memory reporter. r=wmccloskey,jlebar.
# [04:44] <@ehsan> but I can't do it now
# [04:44] <@ehsan> cause I just broke python
# [04:44] <@ehsan> and I can't build any more :((((
# [04:44] <vlad> how did you break python?
# [04:44] <vlad> what
# [04:44] <@ehsan> gps: roaaaaar
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# [04:44] <@ehsan> gps: installing a non-system python was terrible advice :(
# [04:44] <vlad> ew
# [04:44] <vlad> can't you just.. remove all that?
# [04:45] <@ehsan> I don't know how to unf**k my system now
# [04:45] <@ehsan> omg
# [04:45] <@ehsan> just what I needed
# [04:45] <reuben> how did you install python?
# [04:46] <@ehsan> ok there we go
# [04:46] <@ehsan> fink remove mercurial
# [04:46] <@ehsan> reuben: fink
# [04:46] <@ehsan> osx doesn't like that one bit though
# [04:46] <reuben> eeeeeeeeek
# [04:47] <reuben> http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/
# [04:47] <@ehsan> crap
# [04:47] <@ehsan> that didn't help
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# [04:48] <@ehsan> does anyone know how to reinstall osx system python?
# [04:48] <@ehsan> should I grab a new package from python.org?
# [04:49] <@ehsan> anyone?
# [04:49] <reuben> ehsan: do you have an OS X image?
# [04:49] <@ehsan> no
# [04:49] <reuben> hm :|
# [04:50] * @ehsan downloads the python.org package
# [04:50] <@ehsan> not much more left to lose I guess
# [04:50] <reuben> have you actually removed the system python? usually package managers will put installed stuff in a different prefix, like /usr/local/
# [04:50] <reuben> I have three Python versions, two that I installed and the system one
# [04:50] <reuben> system is in /usr and the ones I installed in /usr/local
# [04:51] <firebot> Check-in:
# [04:51] <@ehsan> no, that binary is there
# [04:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba70784af08b - Jan Varga - Bug 847099 - Intermittent test_readonly_lockedfiles.html | Assertion count {2,4} is greater than expected range (Didn't find the locked file we were looking for!:
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# [04:51] <firebot> 'mLockedFileQueues.Length()...) followed by a timeout in test_add_put.html et al (bug 783913). r=bent
# [04:51] <@ehsan> but seems like my python packages are not quite there
# [04:51] <@ehsan> things like __future__
# [04:51] <@ehsan> which the mozilla build system depends on
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# [04:52] <reuben> maybe you have a broken PYTHONPATH, what's the output of |python -c "import sys; print(sys.path)"|
# [04:54] <@ehsan> ['', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/pip-1.2.1-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/mozregression-0.6.3-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/mozcommitbuilder-0.4.10-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/BeautifulSoup-3.2.1-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/mozrunner-5.14-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/httplib2-0.7.6-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/simpl
# [04:54] <@ehsan> ejson-2.6.2-py2.7-macosx-10.8-intel.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/pulsebuildmonitor-0.64-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/mozprofile-0.4-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/mozprocess-0.8-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/mozinfo-0.4-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/MozillaPulse-.5-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/ManifestDestiny-0.5.6-py2.7.egg', '/Li
# [04:54] <@ehsan> brary/Python/2.7/site-packages/pytz-2012h-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/carrot-0.10.7-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/amqplib-1.0.2-py2.7.egg', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/anyjson-0.3.3-py2.7.egg', '/Users/ehsanakhgari/moz/mozilla-central', '/Users/ehsanakhgari/moz/droplettr', '/Users/ehsanakhgari/code/python', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python27.zip', '/Library
# [04:54] <@ehsan> /Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-darwin', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-mac', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-mac/lib-scriptpackages', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.
# [04:54] <@ehsan> 7/lib/python2.7/lib-old', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages', '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages']
# [04:55] <@ehsan> so
# [04:55] <@ehsan> it looks like removing the objdir at least gets me through configure
# [04:56] <@ehsan> roc: so, I'm rebuilding now
# [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0038e628250 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 850523 (part 2) - Use C++ comments in LifoAlloc.{cpp,h}. r=wmccloskey.
# [04:56] <@ehsan> roc: assuming that the build finishes in about half an hour, I may or may not be able to give you the answer tonight
# [04:56] <@ehsan> cause it's 12:00am, and it's Sunday!
# [04:57] <@ehsan> roc: if I go to sleep before the build finishes, I'll comment on the bug
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# [04:57] <@ehsan> roc: but can you please say on the bug what you want me to do depending on which TimeVarying is at fault, to save one turnaround?
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# [05:12] <@roc> sure
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# [05:13] <tbsaunde> philor: I tested https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=4c4f2d5edb3e both ways so I expect it'll go green
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# [05:14] <tbsaunde> feel free to push that if you like
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# [05:17] <philor> tbsaunde: okay, thanks!
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# [05:22] <vlad> argh, I rebuilt inside a subdir in my mac objdir
# [05:22] <vlad> and now i'm getting "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: ..."
# [05:23] <vlad> of course all my .o files are x86_64, hmm
# [05:23] <sfink> stop pinging me, chatzilla
# [05:23] <sfink> fink no want to remove mercurial
# [05:23] <sfink> leave fink alone
# [05:23] <sfink> fink go bed soon
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# [05:27] <reuben> fink good engineer, not so good package manager
# [05:27] <vlad> oh derp
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# [05:30] <Callek> sfink: don't remove mercurial!
# [05:30] <Callek> also goodnight
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# [05:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e357cea6f6 - Bobby Holley - Bug 850000 - Don't clobber exceptions set in security wrapper check() hooks. r=mrbkap
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# [06:03] <philor> njn: was the goal of js-main-runtime-temporary-peak to make it a temporary peak by crashing?
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# [06:09] <philor> njn: sure, I can
# [06:09] <njn> philor: thanks, and sorry
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# [06:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d894d02ee219 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out e0038e628250 and 02b242697afb (bug 850523) for test_memoryReporters.xul crashes
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# [06:18] <bholley> philor: I have an easy fix for the #1 Nightly topcrasher. Do I have a chance of getting it into tonight's nightlies?
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# [06:19] <philor> bholley: sure, push to m-c, all you have to do is get builds done before 3am
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# [06:20] <bholley> philor: is anybody going to be up to watch the tree?
# [06:20] <bholley> maybe njn?
# [06:21] <njn> bholley: I'm going in ~30 minutes, sorry
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# [06:21] <bholley> maybe doublec?
# [06:21] <njn> bholley: jlebar's in japan, he might be able to
# [06:22] <jlebar> bholley: hi?
# [06:22] <bholley> jlebar: ^^
# [06:22] <jlebar> bholley: sure, I can watch m-c
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# [06:23] <bholley> jlebar: thanks
# [06:23] <jlebar> bholley: sure
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# [06:26] <@roc> jlebar's in Japan? fun
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# [06:27] <jlebar> roc: Sitting in my hotel room with a view of the Tokyo Sky Tree. :)
# [06:27] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: can you help me to http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2224795
# [06:27] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: i'm getting this with several testcases, but none are reliable enough to reduce
# [06:28] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: any idea what would make it unreliable?
# [06:28] <@roc> hotel room not fun
# [06:28] <mattwoodrow> Jesse: fun. Not really, but I guess style flushing is timing based
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# [06:28] <tbsaunde> jlebar: sky tree?
# [06:29] <jlebar> tbsaunde: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Tree
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# [06:30] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: but the usual things will make it likely to flush, right? document.documentElement.offsetHeight or just setTimeout because it has to paint?
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# [06:31] <mattwoodrow> Jesse: yeah, should do
# [06:32] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: is there something weird about splay tree that causes it to only sometimes notice bad uses?
# [06:32] <@roc> splay tree is a little weird yes
# [06:33] <mattwoodrow> We should run checkCoherency on most operations (with DEBUG) though
# [06:33] <vlad> hrm, so if on OSX I do *(int *)(0x01000000deadbeef) = 10;
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# [06:34] <vlad> er, ..deadbeefULL .. why does gdb say that EXC_BAD_ACCESS address is 0?
# [06:34] <vlad> the exception handler says the same thing
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# [06:34] <vlad> where
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# [06:34] <vlad> er, wrong window
# [06:35] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: maybe i want a mode where OverflowChangedTracker uses something other than a splay tree? :/
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# [06:38] <mattwoodrow> Jesse: Unless the issue is actually within SplayTree
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# [06:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b03bb3ce8cee - Bobby Holley - Bug 851851 - Null check win. r=me
# [06:41] <Jesse> mattwoodrow: i have in gdb, if that helps
# [06:41] <mattwoodrow> Jesse: I don't know SplayTree that well, don't think I can be much help remotely
# [06:41] <mattwoodrow> if you file I can try reproduce and figure it out
# [06:41] <Jesse> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2224854
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# [06:42] <Jesse> i don't have a reasonable testcase :(
# [06:44] <mattwoodrow> do you have an unreasonable one?
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# [06:45] <Jesse> a huge testcase, tangled with the fuzzer, that hits the assertion 15% of the time
# [06:46] <njn> philor: and test_aboutmemory.xul is running just fine for me locally, sigh
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# [06:47] <philor> huh
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# [06:49] <njn> philor: fedora-only, interesting
# [06:50] <tbsaunde> Jesse: have a chance to look at a11y asserts yet?
# [06:50] <Jesse> tbsaunde: haven't hit any... which is suspicious
# [06:51] <bholley> Jesse: so, with ASAN testcases. Should we check them in?
# [06:52] <Jesse> bholley: why not?
# [06:52] <bholley> Jesse: well, I'm just wondering if there's a point
# [06:52] <bholley> Jesse: do we run our test suite under ASAN?
# [06:53] <Jesse> bholley: occasionally, and we're hoping to do it more often. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831491
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# [06:55] <tbsaunde> Jesse: weird, although I wouldn't expect your fuzzer to hit the text ones we get in m-a11y and possibly not the flush ones either
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# [06:56] <Cork> latest-mozilla-central haven't been updating for the last 3 days
# [06:56] <njn> philor: are those fedora builds trace-malloc builds?
# [06:56] <Cork> is this know? (the auto updater is still on 2013-03-14)
# [06:57] <njn> philor: the logs say yes. now I know what the problem is
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# [06:58] <Cork> ah, the lastest-mozilla-central has been fixed, but the updater still doesn't find anything
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# [07:01] <Jesse> tbsaunde: oops, i accidentally had "ignore all accessibility assertions" in two places (and of course only removed one)
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# [07:05] <tbsaunde> Jesse: heh :)
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# [07:27] <glandium> nthomas: pong
# [07:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c213189c95c7 - Chris Lord - Bug 824745 - Fuzz clipping tests more on Android. r=karlt
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# [07:29] <Jesse> ###!!! ASSERTION: Accessible tree was created after it was modified! Huh?: 'Error', file ../../../../accessible/src/base/EventQueue.cpp, line 217
# [07:29] <Jesse> ###!!! ASSERTION: No accessible parent?!: 'parent', file ../../../../accessible/src/generic/DocAccessible.cpp, line 1870
# [07:29] <Jesse> ###!!! ASSERTION: Adopting child!: 'Error', file ../../../../accessible/src/generic/Accessible.cpp, line 2603
# [07:29] <Jesse> tbsaunde: yeah, i think it's working now ;)
# [07:31] <tbsaunde> Jesse: seems so :)
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# [07:31] <tbsaunde> Jesse: please file of course :)
# [07:31] <Jesse> i will
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# [07:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13d27a59ee08 - Edgar Chen - Bug 847820 - Part 2: Modify IccManager for exporting contact to SIM. r=bugs
# [07:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f0d01f00f1e - Edgar Chen - Bug 847820 - Part 1: IDL for exporting contact to SIM. r=allstars.chh. sr=jonas
# [07:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/175853edfc52 - Edgar Chen - Bug 847820 - Part 3: RIL implementation. r=allstars.chh
# [07:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c296b25c9af - Edgar Chen - Bug 847820 - Part 4: Marionette tests for updating SIM contact. r=allstars.chh
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# [07:58] <bkero> Hmm, firefox is sitting at 100% CPU again, seems to be spencing 99% of it's time in futex()
# [07:58] <bkero> *spending. No plugins running
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# [08:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0834efe48f1e - Trevor Saunders - bug 694254 - disable the test on windows 7/8
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# [08:32] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [08:33] <glob> welcome back mr ms2ger
# [08:33] <Ms2ger> G'day, glob
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# [08:38] <tbsaunde> philor|away: I see you there pushing and then running away so we can't ask you question ;-)
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# [08:50] <Callek> tbsaunde++
# [08:51] <Callek> tbsaunde: its not everyday we can say that to philor
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# [08:51] <Callek> but its about time he conformed to what the rest of you guys do.
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# [09:00] <glob> happy another bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/happy-bmo-push-day-35/
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# [09:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b832bfd6fc24 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 820012 - unable to debug scripts loaded via loadSubScript in Browser Debugger; r=past
# [09:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7cc974e3a6a3 - Tim Taubert - Bug 841350 - Drag and drop a CTP tab in a new window makes the CTP icon disappear; r=gavin,ttaubert
# [09:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b2636816c7fd - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
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# [09:33] <glandium> gaston: i can't reproduce your problem
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# [09:37] <Standard8> did we just loose the ability to do -lxpcom?
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# [09:44] <glandium> Standard8: shouldn't have, but that's going to die eventually
# [09:45] <Standard8> glandium: hmm, turns out it was a incomplete build issue
# [09:45] <Ms2ger> Standard8, gah, did I break you again? :/
# [09:45] <Standard8> glandium: how are we going to do binary unit tests without -lxpcom?
# [09:45] <Standard8> Ms2ger: yep ;-)
# [09:45] <glandium> Standard8: linking against libxul directly
# [09:46] <Ms2ger> Standard8, I do seem to be good at that :)
# [09:46] <Standard8> Ms2ger: fixed now, just lots of additional includes
# [09:46] <Ms2ger> Yeah, m-c needed quite a few of those too
# [09:46] <Standard8> Ms2ger: touching includes in commonly used .h files is bound to break us ;-)
# [09:47] <Standard8> glandium: so everything in xpcom will be available externally via libxul?
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# [09:48] <Ms2ger> Oh, this is actually khuey|away
# [09:48] <glandium> Ms2ger: ?
# [09:48] <glandium> Standard8: details are not determined, but probably
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# [09:50] <Ms2ger> glandium, something left a bunch of .o.pp files in my objdir/dom/bindings/.deps/ and stopped updating them
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# [09:54] <Ms2ger> I'll stay away from Hamburg, then :)
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# [10:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62139bbc7af6 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 844331 - part 1 - rename bits with |getCurrentSessionPayload| to |getSessionPayload|; r=taras
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# [10:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80034b418a48 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 844331 - part 6 - move saved-session writing to profile-before-change2 to catch cache and FHR activity; r=taras
# [10:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b54f36d54a8 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 844331 - part 4 - cache the profile directory in TelemetryPing; r=taras
# [10:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8e226c778e1 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 844331 - part 3 - split out payload/payload+slug construction to separate functions; r=taras
# [10:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f92ce45a6b92 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 844331 - part 5 - add profile-before-change2 notification; r=bsmedberg
# [10:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53c240fdf21c - Nathan Froyd - Bug 844331 - part 2 - move getSimpleMeasurements to live in TelemetryPing; r=taras
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# [10:12] <glazou> d'oh!
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# [10:17] <Ms2ger> glazou is actually Homer?
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# [10:21] <glandium> Ms2ger: and you are glazou
# [10:22] <Ms2ger> So I must be Homer?
# [10:22] <Ms2ger> D'oh!
# [10:22] <glandium> see
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# [10:25] <@smaug> hmm, I can't add an attachment to an sg bug
# [10:25] <@smaug> submitting it gives "You must enter a valid bug number!"
# [10:27] <ewong> ditto here
# [10:27] <NeilAway> glob|away: was there a bug filed on bugzilla uploads losing their initial 32 bytes?
# [10:27] <glazou> Ms2ger, glandium: I think you guys need a 3rd week-end day...
# [10:28] <Ms2ger> glazou, I'd love that :)
# [10:29] <glandium> glazou: i'd need a 4th one, then, i already have 3-day week ends
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# [10:29] <@smaug> ewong: does that happen in non-sg bugs too?
# [10:29] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [10:29] <@smaug> glazou: if you have questions, you probably want Enn
# [10:29] <@smaug> grr
# [10:30] <@smaug> so bugzilla is totally broken now
# [10:30] <ewong> smaug: yes
# [10:30] <@smaug> fun
# [10:30] <ewong> it was working at least an hour ago
# [10:30] <Ms2ger> http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/happy-bmo-push-day-35/
# [10:30] <KWierso|Home> I saw a successful patch earlier tonight
# [10:30] <glazou> smaug: yes I know ; no I don't have questions, it's only that making a nice UI for a design tool for CSS flexbox is not always fun
# [10:32] <ewong> not exactly sure which of those bug fixes in that link that's causing the regression...
# [10:33] <glandium> smaug: bugzilla broken could certainly explain why i'm getting errors with hg bzexport
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> Anybody filed a bug already?
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# [10:35] <@smaug> just filing
# [10:35] <Ms2ger> Just filed
# [10:35] <Ms2ger> Bug 852072
# [10:35] <ewong> Ms2ger++
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# [10:35] <@smaug> k
# [10:35] <@smaug> thanks
# [10:36] <NeilAway> ah, so the push includes the bug for which just asked glob after
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# [10:38] <glandium> fortunately, filing bugs is not broken
# [10:38] <KWierso|Home> you should attach a screenshot of the error
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# [10:45] <Cwiiis> Anyone else having trouble attaching patches to bugs atm?
# [10:45] <KWierso|Home> Cwiiis: bug 852072
# [10:45] <ewong> Cwiiis: yes.. bug 852072
# [10:45] <ewong> oh darn.. beaten by KWierso|Home
# [10:46] <KWierso|Home> ewong: you can take it from here, hopefully. Already almost 3am. :|
# [10:46] <Cwiiis> I guess someone's working on it?
# [10:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e115ca28105 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 852024 Implement MetroWidget::GetIMEUpdatePreference() r=jimm
# [10:48] <KWierso|Home> Cwiiis: just got filed 10 minutes ago
# [10:48] <Cwiiis> ah :)
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# [10:55] <@smaug> grr, reviewing isn't possible either
# [10:55] <@smaug> same problem
# [10:56] <KWierso|Home> my completely uneducated guess blames bug 850675 or bug 848457
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# [10:59] <@smaug> hmm, reviewing succeeds in some cases
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# [11:00] <KWierso|Home> splinter vs full?
# [11:01] <@smaug> "details"
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# [11:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97813cd8f26f - Makoto Kato - Bug 851439 - The paramter of _open_osfhandle() is intptr_t instead of long. r=jimm
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# [11:21] <glob> anyone have steps to reproduce for the bugzilla issue?
# [11:21] <glob> i can't reproduce it locally
# [11:21] <Ms2ger`> smaug, ewong|afk, Cwiiis ^
# [11:21] <glob> smaug, ^
# [11:22] <Cwiiis> glob, I just try to attach a patch to a bug and it happens
# [11:22] <glob> Cwiiis, are you setting any flags?
# [11:23] <Cwiiis> glob, yes, setting r?
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# [11:23] <Cwiiis> glob, and ticking the 'patch' box
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# [11:23] <glob> Cwiiis, are you setting a requestee for the review flag?
# [11:23] <Cwiiis> glob, yup
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# [11:23] <glob> Cwiiis, what are you putting into the requestee field?
# [11:23] <gaston> 'bugzilla is broken, see bug #xxxx' how ironic :)
# [11:23] <Cwiiis> glob, so here's a bug that I couldn't attach patches on: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=850889 - I've resorted to pastebin + needinfo
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# [11:24] <Cwiiis> glob, I type :kats, and click on the auto-search result
# [11:25] <glob> Cwiiis, still can't reproduce. are you setting any other fields?
# [11:26] <Cwiiis> glob, nope
# [11:27] <froydnj> glob: I see this too, with: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=722271&action=edit
# [11:28] <froydnj> glob: I set r? and type :jlebar into the corresponding field
# [11:28] <froydnj> glob: and I try to add a comment with it
# [11:28] <froydnj> glob: bugzilla tells me: "Missing bug ID"
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# [11:29] <glob> froydnj, thanks
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# [11:31] <froydnj> b2g red is the new android red?
# [11:32] <edmorley> yup
# [11:32] <edmorley> Bug 834016
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# [11:34] <glob> edmorley, i'm always surprised to see the OF integration on bmo
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# [11:34] <edmorley> :-)
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# [11:34] <glob> hrm, we should make that line 2 pixels thick, instead of 1
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# [11:35] <edmorley> and orange :-)
# [11:36] <edmorley> well, background pale orange, the line a suitable other colour
# [11:36] <reed> where is the OF integration?
# [11:36] <reed> cause, I don't see it...
# [11:36] <edmorley> reed: not on by default, prefs
# [11:36] <reed> ah
# [11:37] <glob> reed, sleeeeeeeep
# [11:37] <reed> yeah yeah
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# [11:37] <reed> almost 4am
# [11:37] <reed> :p
# [11:37] <glob> may as well stay up then
# [11:37] <reed> nah
# [11:37] <reed> bed time now
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# [11:48] <glob> so, bugzilla.. it's only broken if you request a review, and that review triggers an email
# [11:48] <glob> we're waiting on someone from IT to push the fix live
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# [11:59] <glob> Cwiiis, froydnj: bugzilla updated; are you able to verify things are better now?
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# [12:01] <Cwiiis> glob, gimme a moment :)
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# [12:04] <Cwiiis> padenot, I'm told you know about Canvas 2d and might be the person to talk to about possible performance improvements?
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# [12:05] <froydnj> glob: seems to wfm. thanks!
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# [12:05] <Cwiiis> padenot, specifically, drawing operations are slow on Android; transforms, blending, blitting and text drawing
# [12:05] <glob> froydnj, thanks! props go to reed for the fix, and ashish for the push
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# [12:06] <edmorley> and reed
# [12:06] <Cwiiis> glob, fixed, thanks :)
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# [12:12] <decoder> can anyone tell me if it's ok to "abuse" the "crash signature" field in bugzilla for storing crash data also in a different format?
# [12:12] <decoder> i mean, in addition to the regular one for socorro
# [12:12] <decoder> i guess socorro will ignore stuff it cant parse?
# [12:12] <till> Does anybody know how I can restore the ability to go to fullscreen on air.mozilla.org after accidentally clicking "deny" (and, of course, selecting "don't ask me again")?
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# [12:13] <till> It asked for permission for vid.ly, so naturally, the permission on air.mozilla.org isn't changed.
# [12:13] <till> Curiously, neither is the on on vid.ly
# [12:14] <evilpie> till: try about:permissions
# [12:14] <evilpie> and look for s.vid.ly
# [12:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48e028f2a5d7 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 849741 - B2G MMS: provide nsIDOMMobileMessageManager.onreceived event. r=vyang
# [12:15] <till> evilpie: \o/, thanks!
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# [12:15] * till thinks our UI for that stuff could be better
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# [12:18] <@smaug> till: ask cpearce
# [12:19] <@smaug> till: also, see page info
# [12:19] <@smaug> permissions are there
# [12:19] <@smaug> about:permissions is, AFAIK, not supported
# [12:19] <till> smaug: evilpie's tip worked
# [12:20] <till> smaug: the page info permissions didn't contain the permissions I needed to set. For that, I would have needed to go to s.vid.ly.
# [12:21] <till> smaug: In this case, that would've worked, surprisingly, instead of just redirecting to vid.ly. But we should have the permissions for all embedded things in the page info
# [12:22] <edmorley> decoder: ask scoobidiver?
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# [12:32] <NeilAway> glob|away: I like the new changed column
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# [13:00] <srishti> Hi bz can you take a look at the following code piece for me..http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2221244
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# [13:05] <Ms2ger> srishti, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2221244 is empty
# [13:05] <Ms2ger> smaug, can you reply to ArtB? :)
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# [13:24] <glazou> do we have a non hierarchical prefixed :hover?
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# [13:26] <glazou> hmm apparently not
# [13:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/509b300bda68 - Ed Morley - Bug 845190 - Disable test_645970.js on debug Linux for too many intermittent assertions
# [13:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b903c81b23eb - Ed Morley - Bug 754860 - Disable test_bug726904.html on OS X for too many intermittent failures
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# [13:27] <padenot> Cwiiis: You might want to ask nical about that
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# [13:28] <padenot> Cwiiis: (who will be in the office in a couple hours)
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# [13:37] <srishti> the pastebin id num expired...can you refer to to the following..http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2225525
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# [13:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13ddefe3068a - Irving Reid - Bug 841028: Add last build ID to telemetry system info if build ID has changed. r=froydnj
# [13:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b69df3f802d - Irving Reid - Bug 768482: Add URI of resource to "file not found" exception in asyncFetch(). r=bz
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# [13:43] <@smaug> Ms2ger: where?
# [13:43] <@smaug> touchlist?
# [13:43] <Ms2ger> smaug, public-webevents, yeah
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# [13:47] <RattyAway> No rule to make target 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dist\include\nsIDOMArchiveRequest.h' needed by ['
# [13:47] <RattyAway> <command-line>', 'c:\\t1\\hg\\objdir-sm\\mozilla\\dist\\include\\nsIDOMArchiveRequest.h']
# [13:47] <Cwiiis> padenot, okidokes - btw, I'm also told you're the layout guy in Paris - does the idea of hashing display items during building with a hash that varies depending on descendants to avoid having to process the items (which is coming up as a significant amount of work in some profiles) strike you as possible/reasonable/insane?
# [13:48] <RattyAway> is this a known problem with nsIDOMArchiveRequest?
# [13:48] <padenot> Cwiiis: I'm not the layout guy!
# [13:48] <padenot> Cwiiis: I'm the media guy
# [13:48] <padenot> but there is no layout guy here :-(
# [13:48] <srishti> Ms2ger: can you help me with the bug #433613
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# [13:49] <Ms2ger> srishti, not at the moment, sorry
# [13:49] <Ms2ger> RattyAway, just that I removed it, I think
# [13:50] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: ok I guess I need a clobber :P
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# [13:54] <Cwiiis> padenot, ah ok, never mind then :)
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# [13:55] <Yoric> Cwiiis: He's lying, I have an inside source that tells me the layout guy is in the office.
# [13:55] <Yoric> Never mind the fact that the inside source is padenot and that the layout guy just arrived :)
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# [13:56] <padenot> Yoric: layout != gfx
# [13:56] <Yoric> Mmmhhh...
# [13:56] <padenot> nical is a gfx guy
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# [13:57] <padenot> nope, layers code is in gfx/layers
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# [14:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83cb7a59803f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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# [14:10] <mrordinaire> hi
# [14:11] <mrordinaire> I'm a newbie and want to contribute to the Mozilla project
# [14:11] <mrordinaire> can anyone give me a pointer?
# [14:11] <@smaug> mrordinaire: #introduction might be a good place to start
# [14:11] <jwir3> mrordinaire: Welcome. #introduction is probably the channel best suited for this type of discussion
# [14:11] <jwir3> smaug++
# [14:11] <jwir3> ;)
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# [14:12] <mrordinaire> cool
# [14:12] <Nikhar> hi
# [14:12] <mrordinaire> smaug: thanks
# [14:12] <Nikhar> does anyone know Atul's IRC nick?
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# [14:13] <Optimize1> RyanVM: like yours any better :P
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# [14:15] <AryehGregor> Oh, right, people don't work on Sunday outside Israel, and yesterday was Sunday.
# [14:15] <AryehGregor> That's why there are no responses to my bugs yet.
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# [14:16] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I work on Sunday ;)
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# [14:16] <till> Nikhar: most likely "toolness". If he even is on IRC, which I don't know.
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# [14:17] <jwir3> AryehGregor: It depends on the person. Many people will still work on Sundays
# [14:17] <AryehGregor> Well, yeah, I know *some* people will.
# [14:17] <Nikhar> till: Thanks. Could you then possibly give me his email id? Wanted to talk about GSOC.
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# [14:17] <RattyAway> AryehGregor: isn't Sunday a working day in Saudi?
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# [14:18] <AryehGregor> RattyAway, maybe, I dunno.
# [14:18] <till> Nikhar: atul@mozillafoundation.org
# [14:18] <Nikhar> till: Thanks :)
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# [14:18] <till> np
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# [14:19] <Nikhar> also any idea when I could find jcranmer Mattn and aceman online? Have been tryng to get in touch with them since yesterday.
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# [14:20] <RattyAway> Nikhar: in #maildev
# [14:20] <RyanVM> Optimize1: that's what happens when you don't give me anything to go off
# [14:21] <smontagu> I bet there is some wikipedia page that says which days are the weeekend everywhere in the world
# [14:21] <Optimize1> well, you have the bug summary :), but its my fault only
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# [14:22] <RyanVM> Optimize1: bug summary != a good commit message in many cases, that bug included
# [14:22] <RyanVM> Optimize1: your commit message should say what the patch is *doing*, not restating the bug summary
# [14:22] <Nikhar> RattyAway: Thanks. :) Though I tried there too...no response.
# [14:22] <Optimize1> not even like 'fixes <bug summary>'
# [14:22] <Ms2ger> No
# [14:23] <Optimize1> ok
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# [14:23] <Optimize1> generally , I have been following tha tonly
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# [14:23] <RattyAway> Nikhar: aceman is somewhere in Europe and jcranmer is somewhere in the US. they might not be around at the moment.
# [14:23] <Ms2ger> firebot, bug 672190
# [14:23] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672190 nor, --, mozilla21, gaurav.pruthi88, RESO FIXED, consider removing expandEntityReferences from NodeIterator and TreeWalker
# [14:24] <Ms2ger> Optimize1, take that, for example
# [14:24] <Ms2ger> Optimize1, if you just put "fixed" in front, I still don't know what happened
# [14:25] <Optimize1> heh
# [14:25] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: man oh man I guess I've been doing my commit messages wrong all these years
# [14:25] <Optimize1> okay, will keep in mind
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# [14:26] <Ms2ger> There are cases where the summary works fine, but also a lot where it doesn't :)
# [14:26] <Nikhar> RattyAway: oh..I see. Thanks for help. :) Just one more thing though...when do you think they might be online?
# [14:26] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, is there a way to check the value of the stop (immediate) propagation flag on an event?
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# [14:26] <AryehGregor> If so, it should be tested that initEvent() clears it . . . I think we don't, but we should.
# [14:27] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, dunno, ask smaug?
# [14:27] <RattyAway> Nikhar: they are usually around now
# [14:27] <RattyAway> perhaps Monday is a bad day.
# [14:27] <edmorley> mfinkle: changes to the CLOBBER file require a clobber is requested at https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/ -> inbound tip is burning, have just requested one
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# [14:28] <@smaug> AryehGregor: JS or C++ ?
# [14:28] <AryehGregor> smaug, JS.
# [14:28] <RattyAway> or wait a couple of hours.
# [14:28] <@smaug> AryehGregor: I don't think there is any way
# [14:28] <AryehGregor> Hmm, interesting.
# [14:28] <AryehGregor> Not even indirect?
# [14:28] <mfinkle> edmorley, thanks - i assumed CLOBBER "just worked"
# [14:28] <AryehGregor> By observing behavior?
# [14:28] <@smaug> AryehGregor: you could try to re-dispatch after init
# [14:28] <Ms2ger> mfinkle, there's a bug on file :)
# [14:29] <@smaug> AryehGregor: yes
# [14:29] <jmaher> edmorley: my push to m-i has red OSX builds, does it need a clobber?
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# [14:29] <AryehGregor> smaug, could you give me some sample code? It would probably be faster than me trying to decipher the spec by myself . . .
# [14:29] <edmorley> mfinkle: it will at some point (bug 837323), but still has benefits for now (namely warning people after merging to their project repo etc)
# [14:29] <edmorley> jmaher: starred and retriggered a few mins ago
# [14:30] <jmaher> edmorley: oh
# [14:30] <@smaug> AryehGregor: create a tiny DOM subtree and check whether listener is called in all the levels
# [14:30] <@smaug> when you dispatch the event
# [14:30] <AryehGregor> smaug, okay.
# [14:31] <edmorley> jmaher: ah I forget to press submit on the comment, but I had retirggered
# [14:31] <edmorley> starred now
# [14:31] <Nikhar> RattyAway: Thanks. :)
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# [14:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c75481a07302 - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 2: Update profiler calls. r=jrmuizel
# [14:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecce21507ea0 - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 4: Split out GeckoProfilerFunc.h & PseudoStack.h. r=jrmuizel
# [14:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d195190adc48 - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 3: Rename headers. r=jrmuizel
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# [14:45] <Nikhar> Hi, could anyone here provide me with aceman's and MattN's email ID?
# [14:46] <Ms2ger> firebot, aceman?
# [14:47] <firebot> Ms2ger: Sorry, I've no idea what 'aceman' might be.
# [14:47] <Ms2ger> Boo
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# [14:47] <Nikhar> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13:Brainstorming#Thunderbird
# [14:48] <Nikhar> aceman is the reporter on a few of the Thunderbird ideas
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# [14:49] <RattyAway> acelists@atlas.sk
# [14:49] <Ms2ger> firebot, aceman is acelists@atlas.sk
# [14:49] <firebot> Ms2ger: ok
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# [14:50] <RattyAway> jcranmer == Pidgeot18@gmail.com,
# [14:50] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what's the easiest way to remove a failures JSON file when all tests now pass for that file?
# [14:50] <AryehGregor> Manually remove the file and edit makefiles?
# [14:50] <Nikhar> Thanks for all the help. :)
# [14:50] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, the script might handle the makefile edit
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# [14:50] <AryehGregor> What script?
# [14:50] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [14:51] <Ms2ger> parseFailures.py?
# [14:51] <AryehGregor> Should I really run that to fix one expected fail?
# [14:51] <Ms2ger> Well, analyzing the cost/benefit is up to you :)
# [14:53] <KaiRo> wow, nspr and nss hosted on hg now, interesting...
# [14:54] <Ms2ger> KaiRo, we sure are living in the future :)
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# [14:54] <KaiRo> Ms2ger: true, didn't think they'd ever switch to a DVCS
# [14:56] <KaiRo> to think we could in the future merge in new versions of them and have somewhat reasonable blame... blows me away... (even though I still like bonsai blame over any hg stuff I've seen so far)
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# [14:58] <RattyAway> KaiRo: IIRC they didn't want to make the move to Hg because they didn't have the resources to make the move. Then there was a face to face meeting with Mozilla IT (ServerOps?) and IT agreed to dedicate some manpower to help them make the move.
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# [15:09] <BenWa> edmorley: *sigh*. I was pushing my bustage fix
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# [15:10] <edmorley> for bustage I generally prefer to backout rather than fix in place, since prior history shows it often doesn't work (and umpteen more changesets land on top)
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# [15:10] <edmorley> particularly for bustage where it didn't compile on any platform, which means that there is quite possibly more things wrong with the landing, given that it wasn't tested locally/on try
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# [15:11] <edmorley> (other than a few edge cases such as not qrefreshing etc)
# [15:12] <BenWa> edmorley: I normally prefer that too but in this case my patch change a SAMPLE_LABEL so it missed a few cases in the tree that changed in the past 2 days
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# [15:13] <edmorley> the problem is that for me to know that requires keeping the tree closed for longer whilst I wait for a response from a dev / inspect the changesets / read the bug, which is unfair on the other devs and means I get even less time to work on the tbpl starring improvements that are so desperately needed with our orangefactor of over 10
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# [15:27] <AryehGregor> Wait, do we currently pass all five tests here? http://w3c-test.org/webapps/DOMCore/tests/submissions/AryehGregor/Event-propagation.html
# [15:27] <AryehGregor> I don't see why, from the source code . . .
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# [15:31] <@ehsan> jlebar: ping
# [15:31] <jlebar> ehsan: hey
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# [15:32] <@ehsan> jlebar: how much work do you think it would be to support nsAutoTArray<T,0>?
# [15:32] <@ehsan> to make it nsTArray<T>
# [15:32] <jlebar> ehsan: I thought we already supported that.
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# [15:32] <@ehsan> oh we do?
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# [15:32] <@ehsan> jlebar: I can't find anything in nsTArray.h which suggests that
# [15:32] <jlebar> hm, we used to have an explicit typecast of nsAutoTArray<T, 0> to nsTArray<T>, but it's not there anymore.
# [15:32] <jlebar> I probably removed it. :)
# [15:33] <@ehsan> jlebar: oh, why? :(
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# [15:33] <@ehsan> I need to do something like that
# [15:33] <jlebar> ehsan: Does nsAutoTArray<T, 0> not work? Or do you want it to be a subclass of nsTArray?
# [15:33] <@ehsan> jlebar: I am wary of what a char[0] array would do to its storage!
# [15:33] <jlebar> s/a subclass of/type-equivalent to/
# [15:33] <@ehsan> I don't care much about the type hierarchy
# [15:33] <@ehsan> I just want something that works ;)
# [15:34] <@ehsan> I guess I should just try it and hope for the best?
# [15:34] <jlebar> ehsan: I'd try it. I think it should probably work, and if it doesn't, we can fix it.
# [15:34] <jcranmer> the easiest way to do it is to partially specialize nsAutoTArray
# [15:34] <@ehsan> ok
# [15:34] <jcranmer> template <typename T> class nsAutoTArray<T, 0> : public nsTArray<T> {};
# [15:35] <jlebar> jcranmer: yeah, we had that before. I'm just not sure it's necessary.
# [15:35] <jlebar> But we can add it back it if is.
# [15:35] <jcranmer> that guarantees tha sizeof(nsAutoTArray<T, 0> == nsArray<T>)
# [15:36] <jcranmer> a char[0] array *might* make the size grow
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# [15:37] <@ehsan> jlebar: so first step... it compiles ;)
# [15:37] <@ehsan> let's see
# [15:37] <jlebar> That means it passes my static asserts, too, which is good.
# [15:37] <@ehsan> yeah
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# [15:40] <@ehsan> jlebar: cool, everything seems to work perfectly
# [15:40] <jlebar> ehsan: happy to help. :)
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# [15:40] <Jesse> bz: is there a bug for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851851#c4
# [15:42] <@bz> jesse: yes
# [15:42] <@bz> jesse: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851924
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# [15:44] <@ted> gotta love when someone fixes a race condition deep in our code and it fixes a bunch of intermittent orange
# [15:44] <Ms2ger> \o/
# [15:44] <@ted> bug 684887 FWIW
# [15:44] <froydnj> ted: which bug is that?
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# [15:46] <davidb> sewardj_: can you contact hillzy? (on irc)
# [15:47] <davidb> (also hi!)
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# [15:47] <Jesse> ted: lots of "different" oranges, or one frequent orange?
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# [15:50] <@ted> Jesse: seems like perhaps at least two different oranges
# [15:50] <@ted> a leak and an assertion
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# [15:51] <Jesse> oh man https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833349#c3
# [15:51] * @ted wonders if http://paulrouget.com/e/devtoolsnext/ "A python library to interact with Firefox" differs significantly from Marionette
# [15:52] <AutomatedTester> paul: ^ ?
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# [15:52] <AutomatedTester> ted: looks the same in my opinion
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# [15:53] <@ted> AutomatedTester: hard to say without seeing the actual API
# [15:53] <@ted> but it sounds disturbingly similar :)
# [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9904afcea7d - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 851911 - Unused variable rv in MakeOrSetMinidumpPath() in nsAppRunner.cpp; r=bsmedberg
# [15:53] <edmorley> yey for our reinventing the wheel again! :-)
# [15:54] <AutomatedTester> edmorley: we cant stop until we get a round one
# [15:54] <AutomatedTester> with spikes
# [15:54] <edmorley> lol
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# [15:56] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, does this test file look good to you? http://w3c-test.org/webapps/DOMCore/tests/submissions/AryehGregor/Event-propagation.html
# [15:56] <AryehGregor> If so, I'll approve it.
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# [15:59] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, sorry, trying to pay attention to class
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# [15:59] <AryehGregor> Heh, no problem.
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# [16:02] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what should I do if I find a bug in a test of yours?
# [16:02] <AryehGregor> Anyplace I should file it?
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# [16:02] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, feel free to fix it / ping me on irc / send me email, as you like :
# [16:03] <Ms2ger> )
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# [16:03] <paul> ted: it's based on marionnete
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# [16:03] <@ted> paul: excellent :)
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# [16:03] <hub> do we have a way to test for the OS version in mochitests?
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# [16:04] <Ms2ger> hub, navigator.platform?
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# [16:05] <tbsaunde> hub: you have to use navigator.oscpu if you care about version afaik
# [16:05] <hub> Ms2ger: ah. ok.
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# [16:05] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I thought platform was just like intel mac or Win32 (atleast from reading the code)
# [16:05] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, could be, I dunno
# [16:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e9fe5a74270 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 830423 part 2 - Avoid history view refreshes when onvisit falls into the Today bucket.
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# [16:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6ea788e50f6 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 830423 part 1 - Avoid repeated execution of daysOfHistory query.
# [16:06] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, looks like you're right
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# [16:06] <@ted> we should expose mozinfo in JS
# [16:06] <@ted> jmaher: ^^
# [16:06] <@ted> (for mochitests et. al.)
# [16:07] <jmaher> ted: that would be nice- could we generate a .json object that we load up by default in mochitest ?
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# [16:07] <tbsaunde> ted: mozinfo?
# [16:08] <tbsaunde> ted: if its heres soom stuff like actual platform and is this a debug build then yes please :)
# [16:08] <hub> I found a const isOSXLion = navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Mac OS X 10.7") != -1;
# [16:08] <hub> I'm gonna use something like that I think
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# [16:11] <@ted> jmaher: sounds reasonable
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# [16:11] <@ted> tbsaunde: yeah, we have a "mozinfo" Python module that contains exactly that
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# [16:11] <@ted> tbsaunde: look in $objdir/mozinfo.json
# [16:11] <@ted> jmaher: we already have it in json, heh
# [16:12] <@ted> just need to expose it to content
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# [16:13] <jmaher> ted: oh yeah- that should be fairly easy to do
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# [16:15] <tbsaunde> ted: I see, wouldn't we need to add the running OS version to that somehow, or do we just not put that in there for linux or mingw builds?
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# [16:16] <@ted> tbsaunde: yeah, we'd probably need slightly more info
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# [16:16] <@ted> tbsaunde: all that info comes from the build system currently
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# [16:16] <@ted> so if you want os version etc, we'd need to dynamically detect that
# [16:16] <@ted> doesn't seem hard
# [16:16] <tbsaunde> ted: yeah, it really shouldn't be
# [16:17] <@ted> tbsaunde: file a bug?
# [16:17] <@bsmedberg> johns: does the patch in bug 851378 move the proto-unhooking *earlier* in the case of a delayed-stop?
# [16:19] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: I seem to be stuck in an infinite loop :P
# [16:19] <RattyAway> make.py[6]: Leaving directory 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dom\bindings\test\..'
# [16:19] <RattyAway> make.py[6]: Leaving directory 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dom\bindings\test\..'
# [16:19] <RattyAway> make.py[6]: Entering directory 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dom\bindings\test\..'
# [16:19] <RattyAway> make.py[6]: Entering directory 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dom\bindings\test\..'
# [16:19] <RattyAway> make.py[6]: Entering directory 'c:\t1\hg\objdir-sm\mozilla\dom\bindings\test\..'
# [16:19] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
# [16:20] <Ms2ger> No idea, sorry
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# [16:20] <RattyAway> dao: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752376#c22
# [16:20] <RattyAway> According to the IDL ensureElementIsVisible() takes only one parameter.
# [16:21] <RattyAway> http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/layout/xul/base/public/nsIScrollBoxObject.idl#74
# [16:22] <dao> RattyAway: that's a different ensureElementIsVisible
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# [16:22] <RattyAway> dao: Hrm ok.
# [16:23] <tbsaunde> ted: for which mozinfo in general or adding stuff to it?
# [16:23] <@ted> tbsaunde: at least the former
# [16:24] <tbsaunde> ted: ok
# [16:24] <evilpie> !seen benoit
# [16:24] <firebot> benoit was last seen 6 weeks, 4 days, 4 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying 'pascalc: oui, stas, arky et matjaz arrivent déjà ce soir normalement' in #frenchmoz.
# [16:24] <evilpie> ?!
# [16:24] <Ms2ger> Yes, stas, arky & matjaz already arrive tonight, normally
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# [16:25] <jcranmer> that's an interesting tense compared to English usage
# [16:25] <jcranmer> the English variant is "would have normally arrived by now"
# [16:26] <paul> ted: there's still some limitation with marionnete (not asynchronous for example)
# [16:26] <jcranmer> which is a past conditional instead of a present indicative
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# [16:27] <@ted> paul: as long as you're not reinventing the wheel i'm happy :)
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# [16:28] <Ms2ger> Might be will arrive
# [16:28] <Ms2ger> My French tenses are quite rusty
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# [16:30] <Waldo> evilpie: you're looking for BenWa or bjacob probably
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# [16:31] <padenot> Ms2ger, jcranmer: are going to arrive
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# [16:32] <jimm> jmaher: ping
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# [16:33] <firebot> Check-in:
# [16:33] <jmaher> jimm: pong
# [16:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c6474e8d3c8 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 831768 - Delay async painting calls so that they never nest within RPC calls. The Adobe Flash implementation doesn't expect this reentry and sometimes deadlocks.
# [16:33] <firebot> The Apple Java stub doesn't expect this reentry and corrupts NPRuntime objects. r=gfritzsche
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# [16:33] <jimm> jmaher: hey, just checking, did you get my response to your email?
# [16:33] <jmaher> jimm: no, I did not
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# [16:33] <jimm> ok that is weird. I'm emailing jmaher@mozilla.com
# [16:34] <jimm> responded twice
# [16:34] <jmaher> jimm: odd, I wouldn't have accidentally deleted it twice
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# [16:34] <Ms2ger> padenot, looks like an indicatif présent on first sight
# [16:34] <jimm> jmaher: just sent you a test email
# [16:34] <RattyAway> gps: you're the moz.build expert aren't you?
# [16:34] <jmaher> jimm: I got that
# [16:35] <jimm> ok, lets try the original
# [16:35] <Ms2ger> RattyAway, he totally is, though I could try? :)
# [16:35] <jimm> jmaher: sent
# [16:35] <evilpie> I though about translating that sentence into german and came to the conclusion that there are to many nearly correct ways
# [16:35] <jmaher> jimm: nothing yet
# [16:35] <jimm> hrm
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# [16:35] <jimm> jmaher
# [16:35] <jmaher> jimm: are you sending a .exe file or something?
# [16:35] <jimm> jmaher: it had a text attachement
# [16:35] <jimm> just .txt
# [16:36] <jimm> a patch basically
# [16:36] <RattyAway> Ms2ger: it's that infinite loop thing I posted earlier.
# [16:36] <jmaher> jimm: still nothing, and I wouldn't think a .txt file would be blocked
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# [16:36] <padenot> Ms2ger: yes, but in fact it means something that will happen
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# [16:36] <Ms2ger> padenot, you're weird :)
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# [16:37] <jimm> jmaher: sent another as plain text
# [16:37] <padenot> Ms2ger: I'm french for the cheese, not for the language :-)
# [16:37] <jimm> might get through, otherwise I'll try a zip
# [16:37] <@ted> RattyAway: gps is west coast, so he may not be around yet
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# [16:37] <RattyAway> ted: ok
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# [16:38] <jmaher> jimm: no email yet
# [16:38] <jmaher> jimm: just send it to my gmail: joel.maher@
# [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7ea5daa2dc9 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 850534: Various Yarr performance improvements, r=dmandelin
# [16:38] <jimm> will send to gmail from another account.
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# [16:38] <jmaher> jimm: cool
# [16:39] <RattyAway> gps in case you read scrollback here is the generated dom/bindings/test/Makefile http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2225816
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# [16:40] <jmaher> jimm: got your email
# [16:40] <jimm> jmaher: sent. might be something on my side with my isp. let me know if you don't get anything at your gmail address.
# [16:40] <jimm> ah cool
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# [16:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bee24b51a1a9 - Chris Lord - Bug 850889 - Fix jank when animating dynamic toolbar. r=kats
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# [16:52] <@ted> josh: thanks for poking your team about that orange bug
# [16:52] <@ted> sorry you probably got a pile of bugmail about it in the interim :)
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# [16:53] <@ted> BenWa: do we have a way to generate a profile from outside the running app?
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# [16:57] <sawrubh> ehsan: ping
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# [16:58] <bjacob> evilpie: pong
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# [16:58] <evilpie> bjacob: you know about the profiler setup right?
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# [16:58] <bjacob> evilpie: you want BenWa
# [16:58] <evilpie> bjacob: okay, thanks
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# [16:59] <bjacob> evilpie: BenWa and me only differ by opposite spin, it's tricky
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# [16:59] <evilpie> :O
# [16:59] * Ms2ger spins bjacob around some more
# [16:59] <evilpie> Up & Down?
# [16:59] <bjacob> exactly
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# [17:00] <Ms2ger> What flavour are you?
# [17:00] <froydnj> right round?
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# [17:04] <Waldo> Ms2ger: you're strange
# [17:04] <Ms2ger> Waldo, :)
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# [17:06] <philor> you have a certain charm, though
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# [17:09] <luke> vlad, ehsan: that's not the one to comment out, rather TriggerOperationCallbackFromAsmJSCode
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# [17:11] <@ehsan> luke: can you please document that in the header/cpp file?
# [17:12] <evilpie> BenWa: ping
# [17:12] <vlad> luke: so OSX
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# [17:17] <@ehsan> luke: where is TriggerOperationCallbackFromAsmJSCode?
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# [17:17] <@ehsan> I cannot find it
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# [17:18] <@ehsan> luke: ah, found it (TriggerOperationCallbackForAsmJSCode)
# [17:19] <BenWa> evilpie: ping
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# [17:20] <BenWa> bjacob: benwa and anti-benwa. We annihilate when we collide.
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# [17:20] <BenWa> re: opposite spin comments
# [17:21] <evilpie> BenWa: when I have the profiler running and than click on an downloaded file to open this happens: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2225890
# [17:21] <evilpie> a hang
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# [17:22] <BenWa> evilpie: That's bug 757186. You should had your info there
# [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62512f057d58 - Jim Chen - Bug 845416 - Detect mangled package name in ANR reporter; r=blassey
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# [17:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16f7a494895b - Jim Chen - Bug 845416 - Limit ANR stack to Fennec stack; r=blassey
# [17:25] <@ehsan> luke: that did not help :(
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# [17:25] <@ehsan> luke: I just need to build in js/src, right?
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# [17:26] <luke> ehsan: and toolkit/library
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# [17:26] <luke> ehsan: oh, unless this is just windows
# [17:26] <luke> ehsan: if you are still getting faults with the operation-callback commented out, that means the JS code is doing out-of-bounds heap access...
# [17:26] <@ehsan> it's mac
# [17:27] <@ehsan> luke: is there any way to get odinmonkey to just never segfault, no matter what?
# [17:27] <@bz> We have the performance and safety of C now?
# [17:28] <@ehsan> bz: and the debug experience of android, 3 years ago!
# [17:28] <@bz> heh
# [17:28] <evilpie> BenWa: added my stacktrace
# [17:29] <BenWa> evilpie: We're trying to reproduce the problem now
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# [17:29] <evilpie> BenWa: ping me when i can help
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# [17:30] <BenWa> evilpie: You downloaded a file, did it hang on openning the file?
# [17:30] <evilpie> Yeah, when clicking on it
# [17:30] <evilpie> which should open an external viewer
# [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/196693568165 - Sam Foster - Bug 851443 - Tests for richgrid/richgriditem bindings + stubMethod test helper. r=jimm
# [17:31] <BenWa> ok trying to reproduce
# [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7208a072eb7 - Alessandro Decina - Bug 851906 - Restore compatibility with older GStreamer versions. r=doublec
# [17:33] <luke> ehsan: sure, use x86, it does dynamic bounds checks (and turn off TriggerOperationCallback)
# [17:33] <@ehsan> luke: hmm, let me see if building toolkit/library helps
# [17:34] <@ehsan> luke: this testcase can't be run in x86 unfortunately :(
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# [17:37] <till> Good Guy Waldo
# [17:37] <mbrubeck> edmorley++ for bug 850670
# [17:38] <edmorley> mbrubeck: thank you :-)
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# [17:38] <Waldo> till: hm?
# [17:39] <RattyAway> gps: I seem to be stuck in an infinite loop :P
# [17:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22d16e3d3ea1 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 852163 - Unregister pref observer on activity destroy so that it doesn't leak the activity. r=Cwiiis
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# [17:39] <edmorley> mbrubeck: the more annoying part was 850681, but that's ready to land now :-)
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# [17:39] <till> Waldo: offering to fix formatting nits in the Intl patches
# [17:39] <gsvelto> What are the current best practices for declaring 64-bit constants? AFAIK we shouldn't use PR_INT64()/PR_UINT64() anymore
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# [17:39] <gps> RattyAway: I think khuey was mumbling about that in #build. I think it's related to a mkdepend.pl patch and said patch is going to be backed out
# [17:40] <@bz> gsvelto: just use ll or ull directly?
# [17:40] <RattyAway> gps: oh goodo it's not just me then?
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# [17:40] <RattyAway> gps: any bug #?
# [17:40] <Waldo> till: oh; that's perhaps not so much Good Guy as figuring that for someone only doing this temporarily, after style-nitting long enough maybe that's just less hassle for everyone
# [17:40] <gsvelto> bz: Does that work on Windows too? I've come across Win-specific code that uses LL and i64 depending if __GNUC__ is declared or not
# [17:40] * @bz notes that searching for those is .... hard
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# [17:40] <Waldo> Scumbag Waldo disses Good Guy Waldo
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# [17:41] <@bz> gsvelto: I would expect it to work as long as you assign to a int64_t as needed
# [17:41] <@bz> gsvelto: let me see if I can find some examples
# [17:41] <till> Waldo: I think your explanation kinda proves my point ...
# [17:41] <Waldo> gsvelto: I have patches which would add UINT64_C, but a prerequisite to them breaks on Windows PGO, and I have had no time to debug :-(
# [17:41] <@bz> line 294 -- static const uint64_t DoubleNegMask = 0x8000000000000000ULL;
# [17:41] <@bz> That's in our js engine
# [17:41] <@bz> in code that's cross-platform
# [17:41] <Waldo> and all the other macros from stdint.h
# [17:42] <gsvelto> bz: OK, I'll just go with *LL then, I'm assigning to 64-bit ints anyway. That'll clean up some old cruft too.
# [17:42] * till might just have met too many people who would not've done that based on principle
# [17:42] <@bz> line 1594 -- const int64_t kVeryLargeNegativeNumber = 0xffff000000000000ll;
# [17:42] <@bz> That's in nsRegion
# [17:42] <@bz> again, pretty cross-platform.
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# [17:43] <gsvelto> bz: Alright, I wanted to do that but was unsure due to the old bits still present in some sources
# [17:43] <@bz> old bits are just low priority to modernize, yeah
# [17:43] <gsvelto> Waldo: Can you point me to the bug?
# [17:44] <gsvelto> bz: Yeah, I'm cleaning up nsAppStartup.cpp as part of bug 793735 and I'm doing some code laundry in the process
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# [17:45] <hub> how can I select "mac os 10.6" in try build? it only seem to have 10.7
# [17:45] <Waldo> gsvelto: bug 730805 has the patches; bug 812218 is the prerequisite that founders on Windows PGO
# [17:45] <gsvelto> Waldo: thanks
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# [17:48] <mbrubeck> hub: So it's actually all-or-nothing; if you choose the 10.7 option then you will get tests on all our Mac versions.
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# [17:49] <@bz> gsvelto: Much appreciated. nsAppStartup is likely to need some laundering, for sure. ;)
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# [18:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2490b7e423d6 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 7 - add basic code gen test. r=bz
# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9abdb274d5c8 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 5: add the main JS impl code gen. r=bz
# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07c51bdbd801 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 6 - generate headers and code for JS implemented WebIDL classes. r=bz
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# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32851c16ed45 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 2 - Refactor example class codegen into common base class. r=bz
# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d31fbd56129 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 3 - add dependencies for CGBindingImplClass. r=bz
# [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e85d11e93d - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 4: copy parts of example generator to JS impl generator. r=bz
# [18:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4a689014130 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 827486, part 1: add JSImplementation extended attribute. r=bz
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# [18:20] <mounir> froydnj: ping
# [18:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a365ad559c45 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 824647 - delete histograms when StatisticsRecorder is deleted; r=jlebar
# [18:21] <froydnj> mounir: pong
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# [18:21] <philor> edmorley: you probably won't be around long enough to see it, but I triggered PGO on 2490b7e423d6 expecting Win to die
# [18:21] <edmorley> ah, thx
# [18:22] <edmorley> sheppy: how do I watch a page on MDN? I can;t find the option now
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# [18:22] <mounir> froydnj: regarding bug 771331, I am not sure I understand why you are only firing events when there is an element being added
# [18:22] <mounir> froydnj: and why does the event need to be async?
# [18:22] <sheppy> edmorley: There is not currently a way to do it. It's high on our priority list to implement.
# [18:22] <Waldo> edmorley: functionality doesn't exist now; we've told them it's important, so it's probably a priority for kuma people to implement
# [18:22] <edmorley> oh
# [18:22] <edmorley> thank you
# [18:22] <edmorley> :-)
# [18:22] <mounir> froydnj: wouldn't that work to fire a simple event when something changes (added or removed)
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# [18:23] <sheppy> Waldo: Yeah - we didn't really use it on the writing team, so it simply never occurred to us that it was a big deal for anyone else. In retrospect, it totally makes sense, but hindsight etc etc.
# [18:23] <froydnj> mounir: AFAIK, the pw manager doesn't need to know about removed, so I didn't see why it would be needed
# [18:23] * Waldo remembers using it in the past, but it's been quite awhile for him personally
# [18:24] <froydnj> mounir: and if the pw manager doesn't need to know when things are removed, it seems better to make them separate events
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# [18:25] <mounir> froydnj: so, the password manager will consider a particular element to be the password of a form even if the element is no longer in the form?
# [18:25] <froydnj> mounir: the async-ness (partially) addresses dolske's concerns about only getting one event per form
# [18:26] <froydnj> mounir: I do not know the answer to that question
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# [18:27] <mounir> froydnj: FWIW, I'm pretty sure that dolske's concerns are premature optimization, it seems unlikely that the password manager will be flooded with events
# [18:27] <@dolske> ...yeah, we don't care about removals. We only fill forms, never unfill forms. :)
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# [18:28] <mounir> dolske: that's only for auto-filling, not for password saving?
# [18:28] <@dolske> mounir: we currently basically do 1 SQL query (synchronous, main-thread) per page load. That will become per-event with this.
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# [18:28] <@dolske> password saving is done from a form-submit event.
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# [18:28] <froydnj> I think trying to do one event per form per event loop seems easy enough, even if it is a little premature optimization
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# [18:30] <mounir> dolske: I'm not sure I understand, are you guys going to keep doing sync main thread IO?
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# [18:30] <@dolske> we'd sure like to get rid of it!
# [18:31] <@dolske> I note that in addition to the reasons I've already said a couple times in the bug.
# [18:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7268c16cad16 - James Willcox - Bug 829747 - Update WebGL canvases asynchronously r=jgilbert,bgirard
# [18:32] <mounir> dolske, froydnj: I cancelled the review request, I do not agree with your approach but smaug's review is enough to land your patch
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# [18:47] <@dolske> yay, we removed XPIDL! ...oh.
# [18:48] <@khuey> nice try
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# [18:50] <tbsaunde> jhammel: ted bug 852207
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# [18:50] <@ted> cool
# [18:50] <jhammel> tbsaunde: thanks, will respond soonish
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# [18:50] <jhammel> tbsaunde: there are a few other bugs on the subject, which are related(ish)
# [18:51] <tbsaunde> jhammel: sure
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# [19:02] <davidb> sorta last minute :)
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# [19:09] <rillian> why does the web console not support command-line editing? :(
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# [19:31] <evilpie> tbsaunde: grghuwnk
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# [19:31] <evilpie> Sorry
# [19:32] <tbsaunde> np
# [19:32] <evilpie> My sister ^^
# [19:33] <tbsaunde> heh
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# [19:53] <mbrubeck> The Metro team is planning to erase khuey's childhood^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H internship: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795630#c4
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# [19:54] <davidb> khuey is not an intern?
# [19:55] <@bz> he was once
# [19:55] <@bz> mbrubeck: if it makes you feel better, my internship got nuked sometime back... ;)
# [19:55] <davidb> ;)
# [19:55] <@khuey> what?
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# [19:55] <davidb> khuey: your camera code
# [19:55] <@khuey> ah
# [19:56] <@khuey> we threw most of that away anyways
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# [19:56] <mbrubeck> Yeah, looks like the only vestiges are now in /browser/metro by way of the late /mobile/xul
# [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7f53f9b0205 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 7268c16cad16 (bug 829747) for causing B2G test timeouts; CLOSED TREE
# [19:56] <jduell_> ahal: ping
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# [19:57] <@bz> hrm
# [19:57] <@bz> what killed bfcache on bugzilla?
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# [19:58] <ahal> jduell_: pong
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# [19:58] <@bz> And is there a bug on this already?
# [19:59] * @bz is not seeing one...
# [19:59] <jduell_> ahal: hey, finally getting back to trying to run xpcshell on my phone. Switched to inbound--that got me past last problem.
# [19:59] <jduell_> ahal: but now I'm getting "Exception: head file does not exist: /data/local/tests/xpcshell/../../../../hg/18b2g/t/netwerk/test/unit/head_channels.js"
# [20:00] <jduell_> ahal: looks like the big file copy that gets done doesn't include head_ files listed in xpcshell.ini?
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# [20:06] <ahal> jduell_: (side tip, if you pass in --busybox the copy will take 2-3 minutes instead of 20)
# [20:07] <jduell_> ahal: that's a very good tip :)
# [20:07] <jhammel|lunch> (there may/may not be a bug on the head_ issue)
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# [20:07] <jduell_> ahal: is there a way to incrementally run (i.e. not copy all the files each time, just the actual test itself?)
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# [20:08] <ahal> jduell_: I'm not really sure why you would be seeing that, maybe past knows?
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# [20:08] <ahal> jduell: nope, sorry
# [20:08] <ahal> jduell_: if you don't need that file, maybe just try disabling that section of tests?
# [20:08] <ahal> *if you don't need to run those tests
# [20:08] <jduell_> ahal: there's gotta be a way we can split out the file copying from the actual test run?
# [20:09] <jduell_> ahal: can I just cook up my own xpcshell.ini file that has just one test in it and no head files?
# [20:09] <jhammel|lunch> (if not, there should be a way to do so)
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# [20:10] <ahal> jduell_: the automation was designed for emulators which get wiped each run (so that's why it isn't separated)
# [20:10] <jhammel> where should=="file a bug + fix"
# [20:10] <ahal> shouldn't be hard to separate though
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# [20:11] <ahal> jduell_: but yes, you can pass in your own manifest/test
# [20:11] <jduell_> ahal: right, but the full file copy each time will drive developers insane.
# [20:11] <ahal> and it should only copy that
# [20:11] <@bz> Hmm
# [20:11] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851278
# [20:11] <ahal> just modify the command line
# [20:11] <jduell_> ahal: ok, I'll try that. Maybe I'll see if I can tweak things to add a --nocopy flag too
# [20:11] <@bz> So some checkins to gaia show up on all our trees immediately?
# [20:11] <@bz> but some don't?
# [20:12] <ahal> jduell_: well with busybox it's much much better
# [20:12] <ahal> but yes, it should be fixed
# [20:12] <jduell_> ahal: can we make busybox the default?
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# [20:13] <ahal> jduell_: we've been toying with it, but would need to check the binary into the tree somewhere
# [20:13] <jduell_> ahal: do I need to install busybox I assume? Got a URI?
# [20:14] <ahal> jduell_: http://busybox.net/downloads/binaries/latest/
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# [20:35] <philor> oh, look, there's a red Win PGO on mccr8's push, imagine that
# [20:35] <mccr8> yarr
# [20:35] <edmorley> Mossop: did you file a bug to turn on jetpack for all trunk trees (context the dev.platform thread), or would you like me to file it now?
# [20:35] <philor> those coincidences are just crazy, aren't they?
# [20:36] <edmorley> nicely predicted :-)
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# [20:36] <@ted> woo, i filed a palindrome bug number
# [20:36] <@ted> 852258
# [20:36] <Mossop> edmorley: I want to check that some fixes have landed so we get good output then I'll file it
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# [20:36] <edmorley> Mossop: great :-)
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# [20:37] <@bz> philor: that makes no friggin' sense
# [20:37] <@bz> philor: can you link me to the log, please?
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# [20:37] <philor> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20788155&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [20:38] <@khuey> looks like pymake OOMed
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# [20:40] <philor> edmorley: gaia-caused device build bustage is cleared, not sure how many other things we have holding us closed
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# [20:40] <philor> bholley's busted, I think
# [20:41] <bholley> philor: which push?
# [20:41] <philor> mccr8's busted
# [20:41] <philor> bholley: oth in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=f1fd4792d0bc
# [20:41] <bholley> philor: ah, yeah
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# [20:43] <bholley> philor: that's an annoying perennial source of bustage in the ctypes test
# [20:44] <bholley> philor: the fact that they get pulled in and run as on workers with a separate XUL test
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# [20:44] <bholley> philor: and workers don't have Components
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# [20:44] <bholley> philor: prefer a backout or an in-place fix?
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# [20:44] <aceman> hi
# [20:45] <aceman> I get this error: "RangeError: arguments array passed to Function.prototype.apply is too large"
# [20:45] <aceman> what is the limit?
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# [20:45] <@bz> So I'm trying to understand the gaia thing
# [20:45] <philor> bholley: just fix it, the tree's going to be in an evil state for quite a while anyway :)
# [20:45] <edmorley> bholley: I think a backout since there is pgo bustage on inbound, and we're just recovering from b2g/gaia breakage too
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# [20:46] <philor> heh
# [20:46] <edmorley> heh
# [20:46] <@bz> aceman: did you get an answer?
# [20:46] <edmorley> :P
# [20:46] <@bz> 1537 static const unsigned ARGS_LENGTH_MAX = CAPACITY_VALS - (2 * BUFFER_VALS);
# [20:46] <aceman> bz: no
# [20:46] <edmorley> bholley: cool, fix it
# [20:46] <bholley> edmorley: ok :-)
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# [20:46] <@bz> line 1489 -- static const size_t CAPACITY_VALS = 512 * 1024;
# [20:46] <@bz> line 1497 -- static const size_t BUFFER_VALS = 16 * 1024;
# [20:46] <@bz> aceman: ^
# [20:46] <@bz> aceman: so 480*1024 sounds like to me
# [20:46] <mbrubeck> http://mozillamemes.tumblr.com/image/28636713771
# [20:47] <aceman> bz: 480*1024 of what? chars?
# [20:47] <@bz> aceman: arguments
# [20:47] <philor> bz: the gaia tree bustage? we have builds which pull the tip of a totally unrelated repo, you know, like the tree rules have always said that we would not have
# [20:47] <edmorley> bholley: are you pushing in the next 2-3 mins? (if so will wait; am pushing a backout of something else shortly)
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# [20:47] <bholley> edmorley: yes, I think so
# [20:47] <edmorley> ok :-)
# [20:48] <@bz> aceman: as in, the arguments array can't be longer than that
# [20:48] <@bz> philor: ok
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# [20:48] <@bz> philor: so there's some separate tbpl tree that pulls tip gaia?
# [20:48] <@bz> philor: because I was told neither try nor inbound nor m-c do that....
# [20:48] <philor> bz: no, every trunk tree pulls tip gaia
# [20:48] <edmorley> bz: all trunk trees that have b2g builds/tests pull gaia tip
# [20:48] <@bz> philor: really????
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# [20:49] * @bz was totally told that the emulator tests on try did not pull tip gaia
# [20:49] <philor> once upon a time, there was a gaia-nightly repo that we pulled
# [20:49] <edmorley> bz: it used to be a nightly cset rather than tip
# [20:49] <@bz> hrm
# [20:49] <philor> emulator tests are different
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# [20:49] <aceman> bz: ok, thanks.
# [20:49] <@bz> oh
# [20:49] <edmorley> philor: heh, I should leave you to the explanations and grab dinner :-)
# [20:49] <@bz> so we have some stuff running on tip gaia and some on non-tip, on the same tree?
# [20:49] <philor> device builds pull gaia, emulator builds do... something
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# [20:50] <@bz> And we run tests on both? :(
# [20:50] <philor> don't involve gaia, have gaia in the occassional emulator build, that's never been clear to me
# [20:50] <philor> no, we run no tests on device builds
# [20:50] <@bz> ok
# [20:50] <aceman> bz: can I overcome that by just calling apply multiple times on the same variable?
# [20:50] <philor> but we're required to not break them
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# [20:50] <philor> we're not allowed to look at them, but we're required to not break them
# [20:50] <@bz> so wait
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# [20:51] <@bz> we run tests on the emulator builds
# [20:51] <jhammel> it is a policy worthy of Kafka himself
# [20:51] <bholley> edmorley: pushed
# [20:51] <bholley> edmorley: er, doh
# [20:51] <edmorley> bholley: hook
# [20:51] <edmorley> :-)
# [20:51] <philor> and bounced off the CLOSED TREE hook
# [20:51] <@bz> I guess I'm confused agout the current gaia bustage
# [20:52] <@bz> is it a bustage on non-test stuff?
# [20:52] <@bz> since we run tests on emulator only?
# [20:52] <bholley> edmorley: pushed for real
# [20:52] <philor> right, it's bustage in their build system
# [20:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef711d90e7b7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 848538 - Followup test bustage fix on a CLOSED TREE. r=me
# [20:53] <@khuey> ugh wtf
# [20:53] <@khuey> I lost a push race on a CLOSED TREE
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# [20:53] <edmorley> khuey: for the pgo issue?
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# [20:53] <@khuey> edmorley: yes
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# [20:53] <edmorley> khuey: nice; thank you :-)
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# [20:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d764382ed4cf - Kyle Huey - Back out Bug 462463 for massively regressing pymake depend build speed. CLOSED TREE
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# [20:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20152b50f68a - Kyle Huey - Back out Bug 827486 for PGO bustage. CLOSED TREE
# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75b300cd1c3d - Kyle Huey - Merge backout on a CLOSED TREE.
# [20:58] <@khuey> edmorley: ^
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# [20:58] <@khuey> mccr8: ^
# [20:58] <@khuey> mccr8: you should trigger PGO builds on my first backout
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# [21:01] <mccr8> khuey: okay
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# [21:01] <tbsaunde> mccr8: did your printfs tell you anything about bug 694254?
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# [21:02] <mccr8> khuey: okay I think I did...
# [21:02] <tbsaunde> mccr8: I'm sort of tempted to see if I can bisect a part of the test that causes the leak, but I'm not sure if that'd actually help
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# [21:03] <@bz> khuey: so I don't need to worry about this win pgo fail on mccr8's stuff?
# [21:03] <@bz> khuey: in that we "understand" it
# [21:03] <@bz> khuey: right?
# [21:03] <@khuey> bz: we believe we understand it
# [21:03] <@khuey> don't worry about it for now
# [21:03] <@bz> ok, cool
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# [21:05] <@khuey> vidyo conference is over
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# [21:07] <Ms2ger> Not that he wasn't doing all that during the call
# [21:07] <mccr8> edmorley philor: I triggered PGO rebuilds on the two backouts, so we'll see if my patch works with khuey's build system backout
# [21:07] <edmorley> sgtm :-)
# [21:08] <mccr8> tbsaunde: no, my printfs were only for generic factory. and from something philor was saying, it sometimes really just does fail that much, so maybe nothing to do with my prinfts.
# [21:09] <philor> sweet, just need a few emulator tests to run without crashing on edmorley's backout, and we're good
# [21:09] <edmorley> 'just' :-)
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# [21:10] <@bz> During the conference I did no reviewing, and minimal irc
# [21:11] <@bz> I think,
# [21:11] <derf> You're not sure?
# [21:11] <derf> Like maybe you accidentally reviewed something?
# [21:13] <nemo> say, will pointer-events: painted; ever be supported for HTML
# [21:13] <@bz> derf: Yes. ;)
# [21:13] <nemo> This is really just idle curiosity based on a question someone had asked in #css that I decided to try my hand at
# [21:13] <edmorley> philor: ryan had to take the afternoon off unexpectedly; if you got bored of manually starring the leaks I won't mind if you steal the review of bug 850670 from him :-)
# [21:13] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase333.xhtml
# [21:13] <nemo> at least, I'm guess "painted" is what would be needed
# [21:13] <@bz> derf: I had the windows all on the same desktop, so it's not impossible that I paged down once or twice in the window with the patch I was reviewing before the vidyo conference started
# [21:14] <nemo> hmmm
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# [21:17] <philor> edmorley: so, what about aurora/beta/esr17?
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# [21:19] <edmorley> philor: oh treestatus restore worked well :/
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# [21:21] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase334.xhtml hm. close. but now there's this mysterious dead zone in half of the lime green section
# [21:21] * nemo hmmms
# [21:21] <philor> oh, "// Some other leakcheck error, fall back to searching for the whole line." was the actual answer to my underasked question
# [21:22] <edmorley> philor: in fact restore worked fine, they were just on thw wrong state beforehand
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# [21:22] <edmorley> philor: ah you're talking about the patch, sorry
# [21:23] <philor> nice, *I* left aurora OPEN
# [21:23] <edmorley> philor: aurora/beta won't match "leakcheck"; we'll lose "leak analysis" due to no hasLeak, but since broken anyway...
# [21:23] <edmorley> and we could always backport the automationutils.py change
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# [21:33] <philor> you know, I wouldn't have any idea if we broke tbpl and starring didn't stick
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# [21:34] <philor> I cuoldn't tell you whether I'm starring the same failures 30 times a day, or the same instance 30 times
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# [21:37] <@bz> dammit
# [21:37] <@bz> bugzilla is using unload listeners _again_?
# [21:37] <@bz> Is there a bug on this already?
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# [21:39] <@bz> YUI
# [21:40] <philor> just reopen the one from the last time
# [21:40] <@bz> philor: got a bug# offhand, or should I just query?
# [21:40] <nemo> hm
# [21:40] <nemo> So. Got that silliness to work w/ pointer-events
# [21:40] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase334.xhtml
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# [21:41] <philor> bz: way too long ago to have stuck in my memory
# [21:41] <nemo> aaand, Mardeg in #css pointed out that there is a small clickable portion outside the circle in the light blue upper left portion
# [21:41] <@bz> philor: makes sense.
# [21:41] <nemo> which. I can't see a reason for. makes me think bug
# [21:41] <nemo> not a major bug, but...
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# [21:46] <philor> edmorley: okay, only 18 unstarred! does that look good to reopen?
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# [21:48] <edmorley> philor: presuming we're happy about that fixing the pgo issues
# [21:48] <edmorley> then yeah
# [21:48] <philor> the backout did, whether or not the backout did
# [21:48] <philor> as in, tip will be fine whether or not tip-1 is
# [21:49] <@khuey> yep, that was the idea
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# [21:49] <philor> okay, inbound's open for the next load of bustage, get in quick because it won't last long
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# [21:51] <@bz> lol
# [21:51] <longsonr> haha
# [21:51] * timeless rotfl
# [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/284df6d78bc5 - Yiming Yang - Bug 841101 - Add support for multi touch action chains in marionette, r=mdas
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# [21:52] <mbrubeck> mdas is too fast for me
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# [21:53] <mdas> muhuahaha.
# [21:53] <jhammel> s/me/everyone/ :)
# [21:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8da24aaaaa26 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 852183 - Remove unused testpilot extension and removed-files from /mobile/android [r=mfinkle]
# [21:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b10a9f0e0a76 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 852046 - Hide the Close Tab button label in the Metro tab bar [r=jimm]
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# [21:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baa90816699d - Ian Melven - Bug 846458 - intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-PASS | /tests/content/base/test/test_bug548193.html | Assertion count 0 is less than expected range 1-1 assertions. (r=sstamm)
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# [22:02] <sfink> |git init; git log| => fatal: bad default revision 'HEAD'
# [22:02] <sfink> L(
# [22:02] <sfink> :(
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# [22:04] <mbrubeck> |hg init; hg log| -> silently exits no matter what options you pass to "hg log" :P
# [22:04] <tbsaunde> sfink: don't you need to have commits before log makes ny sense? :-p
# [22:05] <sfink> tbsaunde: yes. I don't mind git log failing in some way. It's more the user-hostile error message I'm objecting to.
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# [22:05] <sfink> mbrubeck: at least it's accurate and not scary
# [22:05] <mbrubeck> sfink: Kind of, I guess? Normally something like "hg log non-existant-file.txt -r non-existant-changeset" would fail
# [22:06] <mbrubeck> but with commits, it exits succesfully with no error message or warning.
# [22:06] <mbrubeck> s/with/without/
# [22:06] <sfink> ok, some amount of fail there
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# [22:06] <sfink> I'd prefer both git and hg to say "this is an empty repo, you idiot"
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# [22:07] <johns> That's pretty user hostile!
# [22:07] <@ehsan> sfink: this is an empty repo, you idiot
# [22:07] <@ehsan> there, I said it :P
# [22:07] <sfink> ehsan: which makes you the git :)
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# [22:07] <@ehsan> ouch
# [22:07] <johns> zing.
# [22:07] <@ehsan> that was mean!
# [22:07] <johns> This whole conversation was just a setup for that wasn't it
# [22:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9502b3cccfe3 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 851785. Stop expecting the image to be decoded in async_load_tests.js because it never does anything that would require a decode to happen. r=joe
# [22:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25c76053d44a - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 851785. Stop RasterImage::FrameRect from initiating a decode. r=joe
# [22:07] <@ehsan> I'm sure it was
# [22:07] <@ehsan> oh wait
# [22:08] <@ehsan> the tree's open?!
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# [22:08] <johns> !! Quick close it
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# [22:09] <tn> johns, did anything change in the past ~week with plugin destruction? i'm seeing a crash where we run script on plugin destruction on a page that didn't have any problems about a week ago
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# [22:10] <johns> tn: hmm, we webidl-ified the embed tag I think
# [22:10] <johns> Which could affect teardown ordering maybe
# [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/865a2157b608 - Ed Morley - Bug 851842 - Make jit-tests log output more suited to TBPL bug suggestions; r=terrence
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# [22:11] <tn> johns, hmm, do you have a bug or revision id?
# [22:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e36f2240825 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 852017 - Clean up the private browsing browser-chrome tests; jdm
# [22:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2cc397611921 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 852011 - Reserve 5 elements in MediaStream::mBlocked in order to avoid excessive cost when dealing with removals from it; r=roc
# [22:12] <johns> tn: Bug 843627, but it only landed today
# [22:12] <johns> tn: There was also bug 827158 which landed a few weeks ago
# [22:13] <nemo> hm. one more reason to think maybe there's some kind of odd firefox bug
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# [22:13] <nemo> so. the two segments w/ ghost anchor areas also have extra ghost label text if I select all
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# [22:13] <nemo> ("yep" and "bar"
# [22:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/411fd163b845 - Hubert Figuière - Bug 845095 - Disable test only on MacOS 10.6. r=
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# [22:14] <hub> f*** I forgot to add the r=
# [22:14] <tn> johns, i don't have 843627, so it can't be that.
# [22:15] <johns> tn: There's bug 851378 and bug 843671 that will be landing soon to fix some existing teardown issues, if you accidentally pulled from the future :-P
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# [22:16] <tn> johns, and bug 827158 seems to old (don't remember exactly)
# [22:16] <dholbert> hub, if you like, you can backout and re-land in a DONTBUILD push.
# [22:16] <tn> johns, hmm, perhaps it could be the page changed
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# [22:16] <jhammel> hub: or get the reviewer to change their id to ''
# [22:16] <dholbert> hub, (though you don't necessarily need to, since it's a pretty minor change and no one's gonna be like "OMG who reviewed this!" and if they are, they can visit the bug)
# [22:16] <dholbert> jhammel++
# [22:16] <johns> tn: If it's a reproducible crash, file a bug!
# [22:16] <edmorley> hub: I wouldn't worry about the r= in the commit message, it's not hugely important (the bug number being the correct one, however...)
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# [22:17] <tn> johns, ok, i'll try in a nightly instead of my own build to confirm
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# [22:17] <johns> tn: You could also try the try build here to see if I presciently fixed it: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=dea28098a353
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# [22:18] <hub> bug # was correct.
# [22:20] <edmorley|away> hub: yup, meant generally :-)
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# [22:21] <JosiahOne> Where did tabs.inc go?
# [22:22] <tn> is there a reason why not-up-to-date nightlies are claiming they are up to date?
# [22:22] <Mossop> Updates are turned off right now
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# [22:24] <JosiahOne> Nevermind
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# [22:26] <atuljangra> Hey, can someone point me to Firefox OS mailing list.
# [22:26] <atuljangra> ?
# [22:26] <atuljangra> dev list, I want to keep updated about what is going on there :)
# [22:26] <edmorley|away> atuljangra: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/mozilla.dev.b2g / https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g
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# [22:27] <atuljangra> edmorley|away: Thanks :-)
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# [22:27] <edmorley|away> atuljangra: np :-)
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# [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1f3efbbe97a - Bobby Holley - Bug 851418 - Unscope the pusher in CompileEventHandlerInternal. r=mrbkap
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# [22:31] <JosiahOne> jaws: Ping.
# [22:31] <JosiahOne> jaws: Whoops. Unping.
# [22:31] <JosiahOne> MattN: Ping.
# [22:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56aa0efd1144 - Jim Mathies - Bug 850457 - Fix for reftest 759036-1.html Win8 failure. r=mbrubeck
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# [22:32] <MattN> JosiahOne: pong
# [22:32] <gps> ehsan: your Python is busted!
# [22:32] <@ehsan> gps: this is the python.org package...
# [22:33] <mbrubeck> where have all the windows builders gone..?
# [22:33] <JosiahOne> MattN: Not really important, and I'm sure you don't have time for this now, but is there a chance you could fix the patches on bug 738491 for the current trunk. I need then to test my patch with. (I made the mistake of updating)
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# [22:33] <gps> ehsan: the problem you are seeing is likely caused by a different toolchain compiling python and extensions: you need to compile python locally
# [22:33] <@ehsan> gps: could it be that you're relying something which only works in homebrew python and nowhere else?
# [22:33] <@ehsan> gps: that seems quite unreasonable
# [22:34] <MattN> JosiahOne: I'm going to update them today to address Dao's comments
# [22:34] <gps> I doubt it. nobody else has seen this bug
# [22:34] <jhammel> that would be *very* strange, considering the bug
# [22:34] <@ehsan> gps: I have seen it with *both* the system python and the python.org python
# [22:34] <JosiahOne> MattN: Wow, what are the chances of that. Okay, thanks! :)
# [22:34] <gps> ehsan: build python from source and I bet it will work
# [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7e1b97dcc73 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 851109 - Add NAME IC for invoking getters on the global object. r=djvj
# [22:35] <@ehsan> gps: well, I already had one python replacement disaster last night
# [22:35] <gps> you know how finicky linking and runtime libraries are!
# [22:35] <@ehsan> gps: I'm not in a rush to go through that pain again
# [22:35] <MattN> JosiahOne: you may be able to apply the version on UX: hg qimport https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/ux/rev/1613b2ea7249
# [22:35] <gps> ehsan: from the logs you posted in this channel last night, it appeared you had moz py packages in /Library. that's not good
# [22:35] <MattN> JosiahOne: and same for the next part. (see https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ux-branch for the changesets)
# [22:35] <@ehsan> gps: can that patch simply be rewritten to check whether the .noindex file exists in the objdir?
# [22:36] <gps> don't use sudo to install python packages :)
# [22:36] <@ehsan> ok I won't in the future
# [22:36] <@ehsan> but I can't dig myself out of this whole for now
# [22:36] <@ehsan> cause I don't know how to
# [22:36] <jhammel> gps: indeed; do sudo find / -exec 'chown $(whoami)'
# [22:36] <@ehsan> besides fixing our build system to not trigger this, of course ;)
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# [22:37] <JosiahOne> MattN: But I would need the UX trunk for that right?
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# [22:38] <gps> ehsan: the problem is Python is throwing an error is C land. we can't even trap it in Python!
# [22:39] <@ehsan> gps: that doesn't answer my question... could we not just check for the existence of .noindex
# [22:39] <@ehsan> and avoid this whole mess?
# [22:39] <gps> we were thinking about changing the default objdir name on OS X to contain .noindex
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# [22:39] <gps> I'm pretty sure it has to be in the directory name
# [22:39] <gps> if we can add a .noindex file to objdir, that would be dandy
# [22:39] <gps> easy enough to test...
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# [22:40] <JosiahOne> MattN: If not than those are broken as well. Or maybe I am completely confused. :)
# [22:40] <@ehsan> gps: ok, my mistake
# [22:40] <@ehsan> gps: I actually don't care about the noindex thing itself!
# [22:40] <@ehsan> I just want to be able to use mach again
# [22:40] <gps> ehsan: long term, I want to use psutil for more though
# [22:40] <MattN> JosiahOne: no, you wouldn't but I guess they also have conflicts then
# [22:40] <gps> it's a better way to measure linker memory usage, for example
# [22:40] <jhammel> gps: oh lord, when i read things like that about OSX it sure makes me glad i use linux
# [22:41] <@ehsan> gps: psutil usage doesn't have to be part of the build process, does it?
# [22:41] <gps> I also want the build system to record more resource usage when building
# [22:41] <JosiahOne> MattN: Yeah, the patches there fail as well.
# [22:41] <@ehsan> gps: can that be opt-in or opt-out?
# [22:41] <jhammel> (and yes that's both a expletive and a use of gps' proper title)
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# [22:41] <gps> well, adding a .noindex file to a directory does *not* stop Finder from spazzing out
# [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbef0319725b - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 852237: Tabs button pressed state with neutral highlight color. [r=mfinkle]
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# [22:42] <@ehsan> gps: hmm, not sure how I should phrase this... my only concern is to be able to build!
# [22:42] <tn> johns, doesn't seem to reproduce in a nightly, so something more complicated is going on
# [22:43] <gps> ehsan: psutil is already optional in terms of the build system
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# [22:43] <@ehsan> no it's not!
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# [22:43] <gps> if you don't have the Python development headers, it won't build
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# [22:43] <gps> your problem is it's building then crashing
# [22:43] <gps> maybe we should add a configure check that it actually works
# [22:43] <@ehsan> wait
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# [22:43] <@ehsan> do we build psutil ourselves?
# [22:44] <gps> as part of virtualenv population
# [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e83371a150ef - Lucas Rocha - Bug 844959 - Set an explicit height for horizontal tabs tray (r=mfinkle)
# [22:44] <@ehsan> omg
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# [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86ff51b2a3c8 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 842621 - Gap between horizontal tab thumbnails should be narrower (r=mfinkle)
# [22:44] <gps> psutil is a binary python extension
# [22:44] <@ehsan> then yeah
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# [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ed0c198ff6b - Lucas Rocha - Bug 848551 - Use same tab thumbnail height on phones and tablets (r=mfinkle)
# [22:44] <@ehsan> this *has to be* a configure option
# [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4dff991eac09 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 852227 - Don't highlight tab cell background on press (r=mfinkle)
# [22:44] <@ehsan> I didn't know we build it locally
# [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/56833fe7db8e - Till Schneidereit - Bug 844406 - Backout of self-hosted array extras. a=lsblakk
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# [22:44] <@ehsan> man no wonder this crashes!
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# [22:44] <jhammel> heh
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# [22:44] <jhammel> </lightbulb>
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# [22:45] <gps> not sure what it's being morphed to...
# [22:45] * jhammel guesses "make building psutils optional"
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# [22:45] <gps> "uninstall your Python C header files" :)
# [22:45] <JosiahOne> MattN: Well, whenever you can fix it would be wonderful. Thanks!
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# [22:46] <edmorley|away> gps: "order a lenovo"
# [22:46] <@ehsan> gps: "Make psutil an optional part of the build system if errors such as "Fatal Python error: PyThreadState_Get: no current thread" can be detected"
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# [22:46] <gps> this will be a fun one. our virtualenv population logic is already teh crap
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# [22:47] <gps> and since ehsan is the only person who can repro, honestly, it's low priority
# [22:47] <gps> sorry :(
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# [22:48] <@ehsan> gps: well I don't know what puts me into this minitority, but ok...
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# [22:48] <@ehsan> fwiw I have no idea how to fix this myself, otherwise I would just write the patch :)
# [22:48] <gps> ehsan: you are always testing new toolchains, etc. I don't doubt your system is in a funky state
# [22:48] <jhammel> so, we can probably make it optionalish without that much trouble
# [22:48] <@ehsan> for now I'll just stop using mach I guess
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# [22:49] <gps> or remove Python.h :)
# [22:49] <gps> then psutil will go away
# [22:49] <jhammel> not sure how to "fix it correctly" OTTOMH and also have no time for it for now :(
# [22:49] <@ehsan> gps: question is, what else would that break?
# [22:49] <@ehsan> I build mercurial locally for example
# [22:49] <jhammel> everything?
# [22:49] <jhammel> yeah
# [22:49] <@ehsan> would that stop working?
# [22:49] <@ehsan> yikes
# [22:49] <@ehsan> so, either build mozilla or mercurial but not both?
# [22:49] <jhammel> i think the answer is "who knows? but its irreversible"
# [22:50] <gps> or "use Homebrew's Python"
# [22:50] <jhammel> well, i mean....this is all C, really, so you could configure both to build
# [22:50] <gps> I don't trust a Python not compiled on my machine
# [22:50] <tbsaunde> [kk/win 29
# [22:50] <jhammel> gps: srsly?
# [22:50] <@ehsan> gps: I still don't understand what's so special about homebrew python?
# [22:50] <jhammel> i would more trust ubuntu's python than my own
# [22:50] <gps> it's not Fink :)
# [22:50] <@ehsan> one would expect the python.org folsk to be competent enough to ship a working python?
# [22:51] <gps> let me rephrase: I don't trust any of the OS X binary Python packages
# [22:51] <@ehsan> gps: fink?! I _never_ used fink python, except for like half an hour last night
# [22:51] <Luqman> pythonbrew is nice for installing multiple pythons and switching between them
# [22:51] <jhammel> heh, i don't know if trust anyone 100% to ship a working binary
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# [22:51] <gps> I run Ubuntu's system Python and it works fine
# [22:51] <jhammel> Mozilla coming close :)
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# [22:51] <@ehsan> ok
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# [22:52] <@ehsan> I don't know if we're going to gain anything out of this conversations, as it seems we're disagreeing on some basic things
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# [22:52] <reuben> gps: I think it's also visible on some builders: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-B2g18&rev=af9270e8f205
# [22:52] <@ehsan> maybe I'll write a patch one day
# [22:52] <@ehsan> once I figure out how to fix this
# [22:52] <reuben> not the same error, but from the same module
# [22:52] <@ehsan> but doesn't matter too much for now
# [22:52] <@ehsan> at least as long as mach remains an optional tool
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# [22:53] <reuben> ehsan: homebrew doesn't touch system files
# [22:53] <gps> reuben: wat? you should never get that
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# [22:53] <gps> we swallowed that error a while ago. I guess the b2g18 branch didn't pick up that patch *sigh*
# [22:53] <@ehsan> reuben: ok fine but not everybody uses homebrew
# [22:54] <gps> also, if you look at the logs, the psutil error is not fatal. it just picked up by the tbpl log parsers
# [22:54] <@ehsan> and I would argue that depending on homebrew specific behavior is just as wrong as depending on IE6 specific behavior ;)
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# [22:54] <gps> ehsan: we *don't*. your system is wonky. I bet you a fresh install of OS X would not exhibit this behavior
# [22:54] <reuben> more like depending on not messing with system files
# [22:55] <jhammel> ehsan: well, we are talking about binary environments here; e.g. we don't support cygwin for building
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# [22:55] <jhammel> ^ playing Devil's advocate here; not at all defending homebrew or in fact anything Mac
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# [22:55] <@ehsan> like I said, we are disagreeing on some basics here
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# [22:55] <@ehsan> and with that this conversation won't get anywhere
# [22:56] <gps> ehsan: there are dozens of Mozilla developers who use OS X and mach. you are the only one encountering this issue
# [22:56] <@ehsan> gps: well you said on the bug that this error is pretty common, didn't you?
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# [22:56] <gps> it's a known Python error
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# [22:57] <@ehsan> gps: fwiw it's the "you don't use homebrew so all bets are off" thing that I'm objecting to
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# [22:57] <@ehsan> gps: whether or not this bug gets fixed for _me_ is not that interesting to me so long as mach remains optional
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# [22:58] <@ehsan> cause I can just work around it for now
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# [22:58] <gps> ehsan: I'm just saying that all the serious Python developers I know do not use OS X's built-in Python
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# [22:58] <gps> if I had my way, we'd ship a binary distro for the build toolchain
# [22:58] <@ehsan> gps: I'm not a serious python developer ;)
# [22:59] <gps> I think we've agreed on this idea previously
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# [22:59] <gps> wrt Clang
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# [22:59] <@ehsan> shipping a binary build env?
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# [22:59] <@ehsan> I'm not aware of any such agreements!
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# [22:59] <gps> yes. like we do on Windows
# [22:59] <gps> ok, maybe it was someone else.
# [22:59] <@ehsan> we don't ship our clang binaries anywhere?
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# [23:00] <@ehsan> in fact we make it impossible to access them outside of the build network ;)
# [23:00] <gps> we /could/ upload the tooltool archives to a public FTP server
# [23:00] <jhammel> 'tis a slippery slope at best :(
# [23:00] <gps> and have the build system download the toolchain at build time
# [23:00] <gps> ... like Chromium's build system!
# [23:00] <jhammel> were this my platform that was being discussed i would be paniced and/or crying right now
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# [23:00] <@ehsan> hehe, it's interesting that you bring up the chromium example
# [23:01] <@ehsan> I don't think their model works really great ;)
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# [23:01] <gps> the Clang SVN rev is hard-coded into the source tree. at build time, it attempts to fetch an archive from a public server. if it fails, it builds Clang from source
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# [23:02] <jhammel> gps, ehsan : i hope the essence of this discussion gets to the bug if there's any fruit worth gathering
# [23:02] <tbsaunde> only allowing one particulr version of one compiler sounds ... not ok
# [23:02] <@ehsan> jhammel: I'm not sure what fruit we're hoping for here any more :(
# [23:02] <@bz> dammit
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# [23:02] <@ehsan> jhammel: there's no fruit in for me, that's for sure
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# [23:04] <jhammel> ehsan: well, if there is a homebrew v not, build env v not, etc discussion i'd at least like to know about it and potentially participate
# [23:04] <Luqman> is there a way to see the log from try during the run (i.e not have to wait till it's done)
# [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bcf9c06aa2cb - Gregory Szorc - Bug 848861 - Send stack traces with FHR errors; r=rnewman, sr=mconnor
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# [23:04] <jhammel> but mostly i've said about as much as i care too (probably more) for an IRC conversation that is, I hope!, not a decision-making-body for issues like this
# [23:04] <@ehsan> jhammel: seems like the gist is use homebrew or don't expect things to work
# [23:05] <jhammel> well, i don't necessarily agree with that, but sans any sort of discussion on something like a bug, there's no point in me agreeing or disagreeing
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# [23:06] <@ehsan> jhammel: the bug is one file ;)
# [23:06] <@ehsan> I should just hope for more people to hit this error ;)
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# [23:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a23ff3177682 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 823644: Text appearance for about:home. [r=mfinkle]
# [23:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/809b5e32d3a2 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 823644: Remove the style named "Screen". [r=mfinkle]
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# [23:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f24c9525f57 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 823644: Base theme for Fennec. [r=mfinkle]
# [23:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db52418726e6 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 823644: Cleanup list-view style. [r=mfinkle]
# [23:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0c492121470 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 823644: Base TextAppearances for the application. [r=mfinkle]
# [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/05abc6f2ece4 - Jonathan Kew - bug 851495 - add Khmer to table of scripts requiring shaping support. r=jdaggett a=lsblakk
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# [23:24] <njn> wchen: ping
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# [23:25] <njn> wchen: I'm getting a compile error with clang 3.2:
# [23:25] <njn> /home/njn/moz/mi3slim/dom/src/notification/Notification.cpp:39:19: error: expected a class or namespace
# [23:25] <njn> 3:52.05 mPermission(NotificationPermission::Default),
# [23:25] <njn> wchen: and several other similar ones
# [23:25] <wchen> njn: ok, I'm landing a patch right now to fix that
# [23:25] <njn> wchen: great, thanks
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# [23:29] <jaws> are nightly updates disabled? i'm stuck on 3-15 nightly
# [23:29] <philor> edmorley|away++
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# [23:30] <philor> jaws: yes, though I think they might have just gotten reenabled
# [23:30] <jaws> ok i'll try again later
# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/061871df8f9e - Olli Pettay - Bug 782211 - Follow up to fix compilation error with gcc 4.7. r=wchen
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# [23:30] <edmorley|away> philor: sorry it took until comment 700 on that bug! :-)
# [23:30] <philor> bug 852106
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# [23:31] <vlad> ted: ping
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# [23:32] <philor> would have been a little higher, but I got tired of copy-paste there too last night
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# [23:38] <nemo> http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/paper.html
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# [23:41] <@dbaron> eh?
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# [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf3ce88c6ea3 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 846406 - Implement arrow functions. r=bhackett. Changes to Y.js r=brendan.
# [23:41] <philor> all the more because we now stick the commit message into the log, so if your commit message matches an error, we highlight it in every failure on your push
# [23:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1255520f471b - Jason Orendorff - Bug 848062 - Make arrow functions inherit the value of 'this' from the enclosing scope. r=bhackett.
# [23:42] <philor> "Ian Melven – Bug 846458 - intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-PASS | /tests/content/base/test/test_bug548193.html | Assertion count 0 is less than expected range 1-1 assertions. (r=sstamm)"
# [23:42] <philor> -> "4:59:19 INFO - "comments": "Bug 846458 - intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-PASS _ /tests/content/base/test/test_bug548193.html _ Assertion count 0 is less than expected range 1-1 assertions. (r=sstamm)", "
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# [23:44] <johns> tn: Do you have a stack or breakpad id for bug 852315?
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# [23:46] <nemo> heh
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# [23:46] <lsblakk> huh - why do the faces of the people on http://sf.getuncubed.com/ shake when i hover on them in FF20?
# [23:47] <lsblakk> it's a bit unsettling
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# [23:47] <nemo> what faces?
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# [23:47] <nemo> lsblakk: linux?
# [23:47] <lsblakk> nope, mac
# [23:47] <lsblakk> if you go down the page to "Expect discussions with..."
# [23:47] <nemo> oh
# [23:47] <lsblakk> the faces in round img.speaker-image
# [23:47] <nemo> there they are
# [23:47] <nemo> heh
# [23:47] <lsblakk> they shake
# [23:47] <lsblakk> they are not links
# [23:48] <lsblakk> i do not see a hover action
# [23:48] <jhammel> lsblakk: obviously because they were taken in an earthquake :P
# [23:48] <lsblakk> or anything obvious in the css
# [23:48] <lsblakk> there's an animation i guess
# [23:48] <nemo> #speaker-block .speakers li:hover ul li img { position: relative; animation: 0.1s linear 0s normal none infinite racausestmoves;
# [23:48] <nemo> }
# [23:48] <nemo> I guess they are to show the energy of the speakers? :)
# [23:48] <nemo> how incredibly bouncingly excited they are that your mouse hovered over 'em?
# [23:48] <lsblakk> so weird
# [23:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2706052a3bf - David Anderson - Diagnostic patch for bug 837370 topcrash (r=bhackett).
# [23:48] <lsblakk> makes the site seem broken, imo
# [23:48] <jhammel> heh
# [23:49] <nemo> jhammel: were you the one who asked me to get that trace?
# [23:49] <jhammel> i bet if the periodicity was the same as the jumping Mac dock icons it would seem intentional ;)
# [23:49] <tn> johns, yep. i can post it. was hoping that it could be reproduced by someone else though.
# [23:49] <jhammel> nemo: since i don't know what "that trace" refers to, i'm going to say "no" ;)
# [23:49] <nemo> hrm
# [23:49] <lsblakk> or even if their faces were links to their twitter/blog/linkedin
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# [23:50] <nemo> jdm? :)
# [23:50] <jdm> hmm?
# [23:50] <jdm> I haven't asked you to get a trace for a while
# [23:50] <jdm> nemo: I think you're thinking of till
# [23:50] <nemo> hum. wonder who it was
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# [23:50] <nemo> I was just amused 'cause it crashed when trying to use profiler :)
# [23:50] <jhammel> nemo: just out of curiousity, what is "that trace"?
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# [23:51] <nemo> for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=849325
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# [23:52] <jhammel> nemo: yeah, not it ;) dmandelin may at least have a guess
# [23:52] <tbsaunde> gavin: ping
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# [23:56] <Jesse> are people writing "r=me" because they think there's a hook requiring r=, or to make it clear they intentionally didn't ask anyone for review?
# [23:56] <cpeterson> Jesse: is there no "r=" hook?
# [23:57] <edmorley|away> cpeterson: correct
# [23:57] <wchen> or perhaps some user named "me" reviews a lot of patches
# [23:57] <jhammel> cpeterson: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6559 ;)
# [23:57] <edmorley|away> https://hg.mozilla.org/hgcustom/hghooks/file/93dc9c506add/mozhghooks/commit-message.py
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# [23:58] <jhammel> edmorley|away: imho, linking to philor's qbo quote should be canonical
# [23:58] <jhammel> edmorley|away: also, didn't i already say you should relax *away* from IRC? ;)
# [23:59] <Jesse> jhammel: btw http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6846
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# [23:59] <cpeterson> why not have an "r=" commit hook?
# [23:59] <jhammel> Jesse: :)
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# [23:59] <jhammel> cpeterson: has there been a problem with not having one that is worth solving?
# [23:59] <mbrubeck> cpeterson: There hasn't been a particular problem with missing r=
# [23:59] <jhammel> mbrubeck++
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