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  1. # Session Start: Thu Mar 21 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <dholbert> is hg.mozilla.org going really slow for anyone else, all of a sudden?
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  5. # [00:00] <dholbert> (hgweb as well as just "hg pull -u"
  6. # [00:00] <dholbert> )
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  8. # [00:00] <dholbert> there we go, now it's fast again
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  13. # [00:03] <nthomas> glitches on tbpl too
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  15. # [00:04] <wg9s> took me longer than it should resolve the hostname but once past that server seemed to respond normally
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  27. # [00:10] <KWierso|Home> tbpl's stuck at "Loading 9% ..." for me
  28. # [00:10] <joe> same
  29. # [00:11] <KWierso|Home> there it loaded
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  42. # [00:19] <dholbert> I suspect one of the various servers behind hg.m.o is having issues
  43. # [00:19] <dholbert> and it's luck-o'-the-load-balancer-draw to determine whether it works for you or not
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  52. # [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2cb4c8c2b58 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 849103 - Remove disable-ion configuration flags from tbpl configurations. r=aki
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  61. # [00:25] <philor> Waldo: more of a belly-flop than a swoop
  62. # [00:26] <Waldo> :-)
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  70. # [00:31] <mconnor> philor: are there any good guides to "wtf does my test fail on tinderbox"? :)
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  73. # [00:32] <mconnor> philor: Mac / Windows local builds with the failing rev from last night continue merrily passing locally :-/
  74. # [00:33] <@bz> 11:00:46 INFO - 176859 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/content/html/content/test/test_bug332893-3.html | Assertion count 1 is greater than expected range 0-0 assertions.
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  76. # [00:33] <@bz> Do we not show the stack for the assert anymore? :(
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  78. # [00:34] <dholbert> bz, did we ever, for mochitests?
  79. # [00:34] <dholbert> bz, mochitest assertions only recently became fatal
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  81. # [00:34] <dholbert> s/fatal/treated as test-failures/
  82. # [00:34] <Waldo> fake assertions ;-)
  83. # [00:35] <philor> mconnor: guide step 1: push to try, if it passes there, blame a need to clobber
  84. # [00:35] <philor> step 2: if it fails there, look at what you are forgetting to package
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  86. # [00:36] <mconnor> philor: I didn't add any new files other than tests
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  92. # [00:38] <mconnor> philor: I assume that doesn't need packaging... :)
  93. # [00:38] <mconnor> philor: thanks
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  96. # [00:39] <dholbert> mconnor, without knowing the details of your situation, extra logging / "got here" printfs are often the most reasonable way to proceed w/ tinderbox-only failures
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  100. # [00:39] <dholbert> mconnor, it's of course also possible to get VNC access to a test-runner, too, if it comes to that
  101. # [00:39] <mconnor> dholbert: yeah... I'll resort to that
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  149. # [01:05] <Waldo> dolske: tell us how you really feel
  150. # [01:05] <Waldo> (sg)
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  152. # [01:06] <bholley> jgriffin: does console spew make it to the logcat?
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  154. # [01:06] <jgriffin> what do you mean by console spew? dump statements do
  155. # [01:07] <bholley> jgriffin: Gecko console spew
  156. # [01:07] <@dolske> Error Console, you mean?
  157. # [01:07] <bholley> no
  158. # [01:07] <bholley> like, NS_ENSURE_TRUE spew
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  160. # [01:07] <@dolske> so, stdout/stderr.
  161. # [01:07] <bholley> dolske: yeah
  162. # [01:07] <jgriffin> oh, probably not, since these aren't debug builds
  163. # [01:08] <bholley> jgriffin: are debug builds possible/
  164. # [01:08] <bholley> ?
  165. # [01:08] <jgriffin> yes, but they're pretty busted for B2G :(
  166. # [01:08] <jgriffin> most things fail currently on debug builds
  167. # [01:08] <@dolske> D:
  168. # [01:08] <bholley> gah
  169. # [01:08] <jgriffin> see current results at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Cedar&showall=1&jobname=emulator
  170. # [01:09] <jgriffin> under B2G Arm debug
  171. # [01:09] <jgriffin> devs haven't made it a priority to get stable debug builds working
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  175. # [01:12] <jgriffin> bholley: if running that test on debug would really help, you could submit your patches to cedar, see the output, then back it out
  176. # [01:12] <jgriffin> cedar is only used for testing
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  178. # [01:13] <bholley> jgriffin: I mean, I could just add some printfs. Would those show up?
  179. # [01:13] <jgriffin> I don't know
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  183. # [01:15] <mjrosenb> so, if I pushed to try shortly after try closed, does this mean my code will get run when try re-opens?
  184. # [01:15] <jgriffin> bholley: I believe they will show up
  185. # [01:15] <jgriffin> bholley: I see in the output this line: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1352
  186. # [01:15] <bholley> jgriffin: is there anything special about this content window that's being used in the marionette test?
  187. # [01:16] <jgriffin> bholley: special in what way? it's an HTML page that's loaded in the iframe of the gaia system app
  188. # [01:16] <jgriffin> we access via a frame script
  189. # [01:16] <bholley> jgriffin: there are some marionette tests that run on desktop, right?
  190. # [01:16] <jgriffin> through the message manager
  191. # [01:16] <jgriffin> bholley: yes
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  193. # [01:16] <bholley> jgriffin: could I just flip the pref to enable mozContacts and then try to access it in one of those and see if it throws?
  194. # [01:17] <jgriffin> yes you could
  195. # [01:17] <jgriffin> I didn't know it was just a pref to turn it on :)
  196. # [01:17] <bholley> jgriffin: there might be other stuff, who knows ;-)
  197. # [01:17] <bholley> jgriffin: what's the quickest way to run a simple marionette test? mach?
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  199. # [01:17] <bholley> jgriffin: or do we still need to do the virtualenv stuff
  200. # [01:17] <jgriffin> er, I don't recall if mach is hooked up to marionette
  201. # [01:18] <jgriffin> well you need one way or another, but maybe it can do it for you, let me check
  202. # [01:18] <jgriffin> no mach support yet :(
  203. # [01:18] <jgriffin> I'll file a bug to add it
  204. # [01:18] <bholley> jgriffin: I think I filed one back in the day
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  206. # [01:18] <bholley> jgriffin: bug 840007
  207. # [01:19] <jgriffin> ah thanks
  208. # [01:19] <philor> mjrosenb: well, mostly it won't because it already burned, but the rest of it is running just the same as it would have if we were open, we just aren't adding more load to hg.m.o by pushing more right now
  209. # [01:19] <fabrice> bholley: you need to turn on the pref and load the ContactService.jsm in the parent
  210. # [01:19] <@bz> Loading http://www.mozilla.org/owners.html does not work so hot...
  211. # [01:19] <@bz> What gives?
  212. # [01:19] <bholley> fa "the parent"?
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  214. # [01:19] <bholley> fabrice:
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  216. # [01:20] <fabrice> bholley: the parent process
  217. # [01:20] <mjrosenb> philor: so re-push when it opens, gotcha.
  218. # [01:20] <Waldo> bz: wikimo go die-die looks like
  219. # [01:20] <bholley> fabrice: hm, does it work in the non-IPC case?
  220. # [01:21] <fabrice> bholley: yep
  221. # [01:21] <KWierso|Home> Waldo, bz: but other wikimo pages load for me
  222. # [01:21] <fabrice> but you still need to load the .jsm
  223. # [01:21] <bholley> fabrice: basically, try indicates that accessing window.navigator.mozContacts seems to throw
  224. # [01:21] <bholley> fabrice: where do I load it?
  225. # [01:21] * RyanVM|Dinner is now known as RyanVM
  226. # [01:22] <fabrice> bholley: that's in firefox?
  227. # [01:22] <bholley> fabrice: no, b2g Mn
  228. # [01:22] <Waldo> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-02-12 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Core#js-tests
  229. # [01:22] <Waldo> none of those load
  230. # [01:22] <bholley> fabrice: which I have no way to really debug locally
  231. # [01:22] <fabrice> bholley: hm, weird. It's loaded in shell.js. Are you sure the permissions are set properly?
  232. # [01:23] <Luqman> bholley: maybe the associated permission is not on
  233. # [01:23] <jgriffin> the test adds the permission
  234. # [01:23] <bholley> Luqman: fabrice: this is in a try push with my xpconnect patches
  235. # [01:23] <jgriffin> and it works sans bholley's patch
  236. # [01:23] <bholley> I'm pretty sure it's borking in the nsNavigatorSH resolve hook
  237. # [01:23] <fabrice> your fault! :P
  238. # [01:24] <Luqman> jgriffin: i believe you need to reload the page if you add/remove permissions
  239. # [01:24] <bholley> fabrice: I'll be you a bottle of wine that the eventual patch to fix it ends up being in WebAPI code
  240. # [01:24] <bholley> Luqman: this is in a Marionette run on tinderbox
  241. # [01:24] <jgriffin> Luqman: we haven't needed to do that previously, in Marionette tests
  242. # [01:24] <Luqman> oh, i thought this was a mochitest
  243. # [01:24] <fabrice> bholley: sure, you may be right
  244. # [01:25] <jgriffin> bholley: here's a mochitest which enables contacts: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/contacts/tests/test_contacts_basics.html?force=1#27
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  246. # [01:26] <KWierso|Home> Waldo: hrm, the main wikimo page loads for me, and it's in read-only mode for the upgrade
  247. # [01:26] <jgriffin> you might be able to add that at the top of the test and then run it in desktop Firefox?
  248. # [01:26] <KWierso|Home> though that doesn't really sound like read-only to me...
  249. # [01:26] <KWierso|Home> :|
  250. # [01:26] <Waldo> KWierso|Home: I only saw error pages of various sorts
  251. # [01:26] <bholley> jgriffin: well, that test already touches mozContacts
  252. # [01:27] <Waldo> would be a different matter if it were maintenance.mozilla.org or so, some obvious redirect to downtime
  253. # [01:27] <KWierso|Home> Waldo: what about https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php/Main_Page ?
  254. # [01:27] <jgriffin> yes, but not in the same context
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  256. # [01:27] <bholley> jgriffin: presumably there's something specific going on with respect to how Marionette does the load
  257. # [01:27] <jgriffin> right
  258. # [01:27] <Waldo> KWierso|Home: http://pastebin.com/B05mhWqi is what I see for that
  259. # [01:28] <bholley> jgriffin: oh, I sorry, I misunderstood what you meant
  260. # [01:28] <bholley> jgriffin: so how do I run that test in desktop firefox?
  261. # [01:28] <bholley> jgriffin: I can't find docs
  262. # [01:28] * Waldo bets the problem is that they misspelled "Localization"
  263. # [01:28] * bholley used to know
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  265. # [01:28] <jgriffin> you can download a debug build off of TBPL
  266. # [01:28] <jgriffin> or build yourself, but make sure ENABLE_MARIONETTE=1 is defined in mozconfig
  267. # [01:28] <KWierso|Home> Waldo: hrm, I saw that when I clicked on bz's link, but the other pages load for me, and I can click through links to other pages just fine :\
  268. # [01:28] <jgriffin> then go to testing/marionette/client/marionette
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  270. # [01:29] <jgriffin> venv_test.sh --address localhost:2828 /path/to/test_sim_contacts.js
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  274. # [01:30] <jgriffin> bholley: there's a bug in Marionette setup.py right now (see bug 853219) so you'll need to manually install mozcrash into that venv, or modify Marionette's setup.py locally to depend on mozcrash
  275. # [01:31] <jgriffin> bholley: grr, that's not quite right
  276. # [01:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65bbddd22ef0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 852912 - Skip test on all Windows debug builds on a CLOSED TREE.
  277. # [01:31] <jgriffin> venv_test.sh --address localhost:2828 --binary /path/to/firefox/binary /path/to/test_sim_contacts.js
  278. # [01:31] <jgriffin> that will launch Firefox for you and setup the profile correctly
  279. # [01:32] <bholley> jgriffin: ok, sweet. that works!
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  281. # [01:32] <bholley> jgriffin: even without flipping the pref
  282. # [01:32] <bholley> jgriffin: so the problem happens before
  283. # [01:32] <bholley> jgriffin: how do I attach a debugger?
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  285. # [01:32] <RyanVM> jgriffin: FWIW, I would argue that any test that's failing in one situation when passing elsewhere should be assumed a problem until proven otherwise
  286. # [01:33] <jgriffin> ?
  287. # [01:33] <jgriffin> bholley: which debugger? you can gdb as you usually would
  288. # [01:33] <RyanVM> jgriffin: make check on b2g desktop builds
  289. # [01:33] <jgriffin> oh yes I agree
  290. # [01:34] <bholley> jgriffin: right, but presumably I don't gdb the venv script
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  293. # [01:34] <bholley> jgriffin: is there an argument where I can specify to load things in gdb?
  294. # [01:34] <jgriffin> oh like mochitest, there isn't, you can try gdb attach immediately after you launch
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  296. # [01:35] <bholley> ugh
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  299. # [01:36] <jgriffin> bholley: if you need to hack a delay into the test to allow you to attach, you can put a time.sleep() here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/marionette/client/marionette/marionette_test.py#176
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  301. # [01:37] <bholley> jgriffin: you are full of helpful tricks :-)
  302. # [01:37] <jgriffin> heh, I just filed a bug to add debugger support
  303. # [01:38] <bholley> jgriffin: if you could dump all this onto the marionette wiki page under a 'running marionette' section, I think people would be grateful
  304. # [01:38] <jgriffin> yeah, good idea
  305. # [01:38] <jgriffin> I've been meaning to update that
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  307. # [01:38] <bholley> jgriffin: woohoo, reproduced the bug locally under a debugger!
  308. # [01:39] <bholley> jgriffin: you're my hero
  309. # [01:39] <jgriffin> yay
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  315. # [01:40] * bholley fixes the bug
  316. # [01:40] <bholley> ok, break time
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  320. # [01:43] <philor> RyanVM: how on earth does disabling a test that crashes on Win8 cause it to start crashing on Win7 and WinXP?
  321. # [01:44] <RyanVM> mad skillz
  322. # [01:44] <tbsaunde> "magic" ?
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  326. # [01:46] <philor> floodgates are open, time to push and go home
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  332. # [01:49] * RyanVM just does his pushes on the closed tree to beat the rush
  333. # [01:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/176b8aa6844d - Matt Brubeck - Bug 853225 - Fix the mach usage line for subcommands [r=gps]
  334. # [01:50] <philor> seems to be a lot of that going around
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  336. # [01:51] <philor> we should probably have a CLOSED and a CLOSED-CLOSED state
  337. # [01:51] <NeilAway> bz: do we have any existing code that deals with sets of atoms that I can cargo-cult?
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  339. # [01:51] <tbsaunde> suand a CLOSED AND I GOM DAMN MEAN ITS FUCKING CLOSED, YOU state?
  340. # [01:52] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: are you really trying to optimize xul tree layout?
  341. # [01:52] <wg9s> I would have thought (but I guess I am wrong) that anything landed when closed should at least need to be approved by the sheriff.
  342. # [01:53] <RyanVM> wg9s: agreed ;)
  343. # [01:53] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: I happened to notice the code because WeirdAl removed nsISupportsArray, I was wondering whether an array was a good idea or whether we had some sort of set we could use instead
  344. # [01:53] * RyanVM whistles innocently
  345. # [01:54] * philor is now known as philor|afk
  346. # [01:54] <wg9s> and that is another issue, most things seem to land off hours and sheriff seems to be a during the day in Mountain view timezone thing.
  347. # [01:54] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I suggested just storing the string and using .contains() on it
  348. # [01:55] <RyanVM> wg9s: you know I live on the east coast, right?
  349. # [01:55] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: that makes no sense at all
  350. # [01:55] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: why?
  351. # [01:55] <wg9s> RyanVM: I actually have little idea where peopel live.
  352. # [01:56] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: because the array is prefilled with atoms
  353. # [01:56] <RyanVM> wg9s: now you know
  354. # [01:56] <RyanVM> so yeah, I'm EST
  355. # [01:56] <wg9s> Where in east coast are you. If near Boston, we should meet for a beer sometime.
  356. # [01:56] <RyanVM> philly area
  357. # [01:56] <RyanVM> we met at the summit :)
  358. # [01:57] <wg9s> I remember meeting at the summit but did not remember where you lived.
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  362. # [01:57] <wg9s> I am old, can't remember that much.
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  366. # [01:59] <zzzzz> boston = too much snow, can't get out to get beer
  367. # [01:59] <wg9s> Funny you mention that.
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  369. # [02:00] * NeilAway thwaps hg diff
  370. # [02:00] <wg9s> 2 weeks ago on Friday we had a huge snowstorm yet I made it to New Hampshire to brew beer at 6PM. You have to have your priorities.
  371. # [02:00] * gps approves
  372. # [02:00] <wg9s> Going to bottle it this Friday.
  373. # [02:00] <NeilAway> ABC -> BCA means -A=B=C+A, not +B+C=A-B-C
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  375. # [02:02] <RyanVM> hmm, to file the new 1px off by 1 reftest failure or just mark it fuzzy and cut out the middle man
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  412. # [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb6bef1edb39 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 853273 - Mark test as fuzzy on Windows 7.
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  415. # [02:27] <joe> RyanVM: man, frig that stupid test
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  418. # [02:28] <RyanVM> joe: yeah, I doubt it's a reach to say that it's your patch
  419. # [02:28] <RyanVM> I also doubt you'll care enough to do more than what I already did for it
  420. # [02:29] <joe> i don't even know how i could have changed it
  421. # [02:29] <joe> it's off by 1 value
  422. # [02:29] <joe> 130 vs 129
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  427. # [02:31] <RyanVM> joe: honestly, the fuzzy may be the right fix, I don't know
  428. # [02:31] * joe shrugs
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  432. # [02:33] <RyanVM> joe: i'm more concerned about the other reftest failure
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  434. # [02:33] <joe> which?
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  436. # [02:33] <RyanVM> but at least matt replied there
  437. # [02:33] <joe> oh the mochitest?
  438. # [02:33] <RyanVM> yeah, sorry
  439. # [02:33] <RyanVM> (9:30 here)
  440. # [02:33] <joe> same
  441. # [02:33] * wg9s thinks a warm fuzzy fix is the minimum required.
  442. # [02:34] <RyanVM> oh that's right, you're in toronto
  443. # [02:34] <joe> matt mocked up a reftest version which may fix this
  444. # [02:34] <wg9s> vussy just not good enough.
  445. # [02:34] <wg9s> fuzzy
  446. # [02:34] <RyanVM> joe: wfm! :)
  447. # [02:34] <joe> it'll certainly fix the hang
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  464. # [02:54] <bholley> jgriffin: you still there?
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  468. # [02:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c4666fa1ad9 - Adam Dane [:hobophobe] - Bug 585558 - Implement properties for easier visible tab access via JS and CSS. r=dao, r=fyan
  469. # [02:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/284c4adfc17c - Luqman Aden - Bug 848617 - New mochitests for Alarm API. r=gene
  470. # [02:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb9dce2a4977 - Luqman Aden - Bug 853219 - List mozcrash as dependency in mochitest venv setup. r=jgriffin
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  493. # [03:11] <@bz> Anyone know whether Ben Kelley is on irc?
  494. # [03:12] <@bz> er, Ben Kelly
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  502. # [03:20] <philor> RyanVM: orange on inbound
  503. # [03:20] <RyanVM> just pushed a fix
  504. # [03:20] <RyanVM> lost a farking space
  505. # [03:21] <jgriffin> bholley: I'm here, what's up?
  506. # [03:21] <philor> I'd do a lot more annotating of reftests if they weren't so easy to break
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  508. # [03:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8bfc3e3c249 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 853273 - Add missing space.
  509. # [03:21] <philor> which is probably for the best, since I'd do a lot more annotating
  510. # [03:21] <bholley> jgriffin: I was curious if you knew that marionette stuff runs under Xray
  511. # [03:21] <RyanVM> philor: yeah, it's a slippery slope to go down :)
  512. # [03:22] <jgriffin> bholley: yes, should it not?
  513. # [03:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d77773a8abf9 - Joe Drew - Bug 853169 - Initialize the output profile at gfxPlatform::Init() time. r=jrmuizel
  514. # [03:22] <bholley> jgriffin: not necessarily. It just seems curious and I wondering why
  515. # [03:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eca6b3ea3e8d - Joe Drew - Bug 853169 - Make qcms precache reference counts threadsafe/atomic. r=jrmuizel
  516. # [03:23] <jgriffin> bholley: I'm seem to recall something not working correctly otherwise, but it's been a long time since that code was put in, and I don't remember what the exact reason was
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  518. # [03:23] <joe> RyanVM: good lord a *space*
  519. # [03:23] <RyanVM> joe: yeah, awesomesauce
  520. # [03:23] <bholley> jgriffin: well, it mostly just means that there are subtle edge cases (like the one I ran into) that don't work right
  521. # [03:23] <bholley> jgriffin: those are certainly bugs. But marionette failures are a very costly way to run into them :-)
  522. # [03:23] <jgriffin> I should try a try job without it and see if anything breaks
  523. # [03:24] <bholley> jgriffin: (note that wantXrays is the default, so you'll nee to set it to false)
  524. # [03:25] <jgriffin> right
  525. # [03:25] <jgriffin> did you already file a bug for that? If not, I will
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  527. # [03:26] <jgriffin> bholley: just filed bug 853287
  528. # [03:27] <jgriffin> feel free to fill in more details
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  530. # [03:27] <bholley> jgriffin: great, thanks
  531. # [03:27] <jgriffin> and with that, I'm off for the night
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  535. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9f77eff4526 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 850672 r=roc
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  544. # [03:36] <philor> boy, I sure am looking forward to that nightly tomorrow
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  546. # [03:37] <philor> having just crashed on the crashreporter restart
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  561. # [03:51] <@ehsan> johns: ping
  562. # [03:51] <johns> ehsan: pong
  563. # [03:51] <@ehsan> hey
  564. # [03:51] <@ehsan> johns: your m-c repo has the same sha1's as mine, right?
  565. # [03:52] <johns> ehsan: Unless they diverged recently without my noticing
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  567. # [03:52] <@ehsan> hmm
  568. # [03:52] <@ehsan> no looks like it does
  569. # [03:52] <@ehsan> johns: do you have the latest copy of your git-mapfile handy?
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  572. # [03:53] <johns> ehsan: Yeah: https://github.com/Nephyrin/mozilla-git-hg-mapfile
  573. # [03:53] <@ehsan> cool
  574. # [03:53] <@ehsan> johns: you also use one mapfile for all branches, right?
  575. # [03:53] <johns> yeah
  576. # [03:54] <@ehsan> great
  577. # [03:54] <@ehsan> johns: I'm trying to unf**k my mirror...
  578. # [03:54] <@ehsan> I got a kernel panic today
  579. # [03:54] <@ehsan> and things have not been fun since then
  580. # [03:54] <@ehsan> will you be around for a few minutes if I need help?
  581. # [03:54] <johns> ehsan: :( and yeah sure
  582. # [03:54] <@ehsan> great
  583. # [03:54] <@ehsan> thanks
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  586. # [03:56] <johns> ehsan: The branch names on mine are different, but you should be able to nuke those and export with your names, then do a |git gc --prune=now| and run that script that prunes missing commits from the mapfile
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  588. # [03:57] <@ehsan> johns: nah, I think I just need to pull down your inbound branch and see if hg-git is smart enough to fix things
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  592. # [03:57] <@ehsan> I think I might have some corrupted git objects somewhere
  593. # [03:57] <@ehsan> but git fsck shows nothing
  594. # [03:58] <@ehsan> hmm
  595. # [03:58] <@ehsan> looks like it worked...
  596. # [03:58] <@ehsan> let's wait for the script to finish
  597. # [03:58] * @ehsan crosses fingers
  598. # [03:58] <@ehsan> johns: I never asked you... how come you run your own mirror?
  599. # [03:59] <@ehsan> johns: (you're wonderful for doing that!)
  600. # [04:00] <johns> ehsan: I started it a while ago before your mirror was always available and didn't have inbound and such. "Well I just run hg gexport on a cron job... how hard could it be?"
  601. # [04:00] <@ehsan> hehe
  602. # [04:00] <@ehsan> famous last words :)
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  604. # [04:00] <johns> Since then it's been useful on several occasions so I figured it was a good idea to keep around :-P
  605. # [04:01] <@ehsan> great!
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  608. # [04:05] <@ehsan> johns: great, it's all fixed now!
  609. # [04:05] <johns> ehsan: woot!
  610. # [04:05] <@ehsan> I wish I had thought of this sooner :)
  611. # [04:05] <johns> 2 > 1 confirmed!
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  614. # [04:07] <@ehsan> johns: yeah, this math thing is true I guess
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  616. # [04:07] <johns> Well let's not give *all* of math a free pass here
  617. # [04:07] <johns> I'm still skeptical about all that integration nonsense
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  620. # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in:
  621. # [04:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3ad8585b8e6 - Johnny Stenback - Fixing bug 781310. Change nsPluginHost::GetInst() to return already_AddRefed<nsPluginHost> to make it harder to write leaky code. r=jschoenick@mozilla.com
  622. # [04:09] <@ehsan> johns: well, we need to confirm integration some other day
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  625. # [04:10] <johns> ehsan: If mercurial starts using integration for something, I quit
  626. # [04:10] <@ehsan> johns: your inbound branch is called integration/inbound, you're one to talk sir :P
  627. # [04:11] <johns> ... touché
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  629. # [04:12] <@ehsan> mshal: the git repo is back up again, fwiw
  630. # [04:13] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: inbound orange
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  648. # [04:23] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: also, I'm assuming bug 822086 is the real fix (hopefully) for the intermittent mochitest assertions too?
  649. # [04:23] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: I hope so too!
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  651. # [04:24] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: ok for me to push a bust age fix?
  652. # [04:24] <RyanVM> if it sticks :P
  653. # [04:24] <RyanVM> go for it
  654. # [04:24] <RyanVM> CLOSED TREE in the commit message
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  656. # [04:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d83421e9ca4 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 822086 - Handle a nullptr ContainerLayer in nsDisplayTransform::BuildLayer. r=bustage CLOSED TREE
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  660. # [04:32] <philor> kinetik: that's not unbreak, that's break harder ;)
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  669. # [04:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37aa10498494 - Matthew Gregan - Backout bug 852831 (07e459058893) on a CLOSED TREE.
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  691. # [04:58] <WeirdAl> hi all - I saw a bug comment stating WebIDL for JS-based components was supported and doc'd... but it's not at all clear to me the benefits WebIDL brings to such a component
  692. # [04:59] <WeirdAl> someone, please, enlighten me :)
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  694. # [05:00] <@bz> um
  695. # [05:00] <@bz> You mean other than following the spec?
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  700. # [05:01] <WeirdAl> my main understanding of WebIDL is that it's a platform-independent IDL, unlike XPIDL
  701. # [05:01] <WeirdAl> but that's about as far as it goes
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  704. # [05:03] <@bz> uh
  705. # [05:03] <@bz> well
  706. # [05:03] <@bz> it's an IDL
  707. # [05:03] <@bz> and a spec describing how it maps into ES
  708. # [05:03] <@bz> how your prototype objects look, etc
  709. # [05:03] <@bz> so let me turn this around
  710. # [05:04] <@bz> if you want to implement some object that's specified using WebIDL
  711. # [05:04] <WeirdAl> -- if this is something that might not be suited to an IRC conversation, my apologies :)
  712. # [05:04] <@bz> and you want to write your implementation in JS
  713. # [05:04] <@bz> How do you do it?
  714. # [05:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fac4d09757b - Matthew Gregan - Bug 852831 - Unbreak media volume control on Android. r=mchen
  715. # [05:06] <WeirdAl> per the docs, the same as we would for XPIDL, with a small annotation in the WebIDL pointing to the component
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  717. # [05:06] <@bz> right
  718. # [05:07] <@bz> how would you have done it before this patch landed? ;)
  719. # [05:07] <WeirdAl> would the WebIDL code in some way expose a way to construct the component, other than Components.classes[...] ?
  720. # [05:07] <@bz> The docs cover this
  721. # [05:07] <@bz> There is no Components.classes
  722. # [05:07] <@bz> For web content
  723. # [05:07] <@bz> Right now we only support creating via no-arg constructors
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  725. # [05:08] <@bz> So your IDL would say [Constructor] interface SpiffyStuff { };
  726. # [05:08] <@bz> and then window.SpiffyStuff is a function that when called creates one of your objects
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  728. # [05:08] <@bz> Or more precisely it creates 4 separate objects
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  730. # [05:08] <@bz> and hands one of them to the web page
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  732. # [05:08] <WeirdAl> ah, kinda like the JavaScript-global-constructor category in the cat mgr
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  736. # [05:11] <WeirdAl> and the WebIDL interface is part of a proxy to the underlying implementation?
  737. # [05:11] <@bz> right
  738. # [05:11] <@bz> So there's a content-side JS object
  739. # [05:11] <@bz> which calls into C++ code
  740. # [05:11] <WeirdAl> okay, that makes a lot more sense
  741. # [05:11] <@bz> which calls into the chrome-side JS object
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  746. # [05:15] <WeirdAl> I know my build time's gone up with all these bindings ;)
  747. # [05:16] <WeirdAl> but using WebIDL to build a proxy, I get that
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  750. # [05:19] <romaxa> hmm getting SafeMutex::AssertNotCurrentThreadOwns on startup
  751. # [05:20] <romaxa> bz: do you know if some core threadsafety has changed somewhere ? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2233011
  752. # [05:21] <romaxa> bz: ah ok no worry, some of binary components got busted
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  756. # [05:23] <philor> joe: should I back 'em both out, or is it just one crashing Linux xpcshell like it deserves to be crashed?
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  758. # [05:23] <romaxa> uh libdbusservice.so registration failing to initialize in child thread
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  760. # [05:23] <philor> also, where's the huge explosion? this is the first night I haven't eaten dinner over a monstrous tree of bustage in five days
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  766. # [05:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f471bdd6122 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out d77773a8abf9 and eca6b3ea3e8d (bug 853169) for Linux xpcshell crashes
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  771. # [05:34] <markh> my meme for this week is "off-by-1-pixel problems"...
  772. # [05:35] <Unfocused> heh
  773. # [05:35] <Unfocused> hate weeks like that
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  775. # [05:36] <WeirdAl> mine is grind-through-college-until-March-28-when-spring-break-starts
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  777. # [05:37] <markh> according to twitter, Unfocused's is "sit-on-the-beach" :)
  778. # [05:38] <Unfocused> heh, yep
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  783. # [05:42] <WeirdAl> nah
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  788. # [05:45] <@dolske> hg qser
  789. # [05:45] <@dolske> oof
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  794. # [05:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9dfb537207e5 - Justin Dolske - Bug 851846 - Update password manager's logging function. r=mattn
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  802. # [05:58] <jlebar> Um... Shouldn't NSPR_LOG_MODULES=all:5 make mochitest-plain print some NSPR logging info?
  803. # [05:58] <jlebar> If I'm in a debug build with PR_LOGGING defined, which I am.
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  812. # [06:12] <philor> jlebar: a debug build newer than whenever it was that the fix for the way webrtc logging was killing your setting landed?
  813. # [06:12] <jlebar> o.O
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  815. # [06:13] <jesup> jlebar: automation.py (which is generated IIRC) sets NSPR_LOG_MODULES
  816. # [06:13] <philor> bug 850128
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  820. # [06:14] <philor> so 14th for inbound, 16th for central
  821. # [06:14] <jlebar> I see; thanks, philor and jesup
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  939. # [09:11] <tingyuan> jlebar: ping
  940. # [09:11] <jlebar> tingyuan: hey
  941. # [09:11] <tingyuan> jlebar: about bug 845685, I'm not sure if you are asking about the "goal" of memory usage or...?
  942. # [09:12] <tingyuan> jlebar: or how I measure the memory usage?
  943. # [09:12] <jlebar> tingyuan: Well, I was curious about the "goal" and/or the maximum "acceptable" level of memory usage. Those may be the same thing.
  944. # [09:12] <jlebar> tingyuan: I presume you're measuring using about:memory infrastructure somehow, probably looking at a compartment's size.
  945. # [09:13] <tingyuan> jlebar: got it. I'll check with PM.
  946. # [09:13] <tingyuan> jlebar: yes, it's: 17.20 MB (33.59%) -- window(app://keyboard.gaiamobile.org/index.html) from about:memory
  947. # [09:14] <jlebar> tingyuan: If you don't have a goal at the moment, that's an OK answer, too. There's no rush.
  948. # [09:14] <jlebar> tingyuan: but I don't know, for example, how much memory our keyboard currently uses.
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  950. # [09:15] <tingyuan> jlebar: There's another approach to make use of the same IME (libchewing) by plugin
  951. # [09:15] <jlebar> oh, awesome.
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  954. # [09:16] <jlebar> tingyuan: that's kind of giving up, though.
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  956. # [09:17] <tingyuan> jlebar: I'll make a comparison of that, emscript+libchewing, and other javascript based IME.
  957. # [09:17] <jlebar> tingyuan: that sounds like a great way to start.
  958. # [09:17] <tingyuan> jlebar: yeah...it's a temporary solution.
  959. # [09:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d16237d9bdb3 - Gene Lian - Bug 852911 - B2G MMS: fail to expose correct nsIDOMMozMmsMessage.attachments. r=smaug
  960. # [09:18] <jlebar> tingyuan: I mean, the comparison sounds like a good plan.
  961. # [09:19] <tingyuan> jlebar: I know :-) I mean that plugin is only a temp solution to someone who can't wait
  962. # [09:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88bf3f7c0e2b - Gene Lian - Bug 853329 - B2G MMS: other Android phones cannot read attachments sent from FFOS. r=vicamo
  963. # [09:20] <jlebar> tingyuan: oh, I see. Okay. :)
  964. # [09:23] <tingyuan> jlebar: Thanks. I'll also check with PMs on the numbers they'll accept/be satisfied.
  965. # [09:23] <jlebar> tingyuan: okay, but in general I'm not sure they will have any clue. :)
  966. # [09:24] <jlebar> tingyuan: So it may be up to us to make a reasonable decision after looking at the data you gather.
  967. # [09:26] <tingyuan> jlebar: OK, I'll give the numbers as soon as possible when I'm back from two days leave next Tuesday.
  968. # [09:27] <jlebar> tingyuan: sounds good! Like I say, no rush.
  969. # [09:28] <tingyuan> jlebar: got it. Thanks :)
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  973. # [09:32] <NeilAway> eww, people write already_AddRefed<foo> for non-retvals?
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  977. # [09:34] <NeilAway> worse, bsmedberg did it :-(
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  993. # [09:45] <glazou> bonjour
  994. # [09:45] <glazou> glandium: ping
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  1021. # [10:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a553cbe3c31 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 830267 - Persist plugin preferences outside of pluginreg.dat. r=bsmedberg
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  1030. # [10:18] <NeilAway> hmm, the instructions for implementing webidl in JS don't actually say much about the actual construction of the object
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  1036. # [10:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8e71f41c30f - Aaron Klotz - Bug 810151: readahead for ordered jar files r=taras
  1037. # [10:26] <glandium> glazou: pong
  1038. # [10:27] <glazou> glandium: I have big issues with my windows build, do you have a few minutes?
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  1041. # [10:28] <Unfocused> glazou has a problem and its not my fault for once \o/
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  1044. # [10:29] <Unfocused> (its the small victories in life)
  1045. # [10:29] <glandium> glazou: what kind of issues?
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  1047. # [10:29] <glazou> Unfocused: well, I was not able to load extensions.xul in bluegriffon yesterday :-)
  1048. # [10:29] <Unfocused> hah
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  1050. # [10:30] <glazou> glandium: if I build with pyton, build breaks in security and shows a message that seems to be a window/linux path style problem
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  1052. # [10:30] <glazou> I also have a second issue in my bluegriffon build, build stops complaining a dir is declared twice but can't see where ; build on OS X works fine
  1053. # [10:31] <glandium> glazou: how old is your mozilla tree?
  1054. # [10:31] <glazou> glandium: "/usr/bin/sh: line 2: C:mozilla-buildmsystreesofficial1.7confignsinstall.py: command not found"
  1055. # [10:31] <glazou> a few weeks
  1056. # [10:31] <glazou> you suggest to update ?
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  1059. # [10:32] <glandium> glazou: yeah, you should start with that
  1060. # [10:32] <glazou> ok, trying now
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  1068. # [10:39] <glazou> glandium: same punishment
  1069. # [10:39] <glazou> with a fresh tree
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  1071. # [10:40] <gaston> gah fuck i only get sigbuses from m-c, something definitely broke my openbsd builds..
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  1073. # [10:40] <glazou> glandium: can you point me at a valid .mozconfig for windows build these days?
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  1075. # [10:41] <@bsmedberg> glandium: xpcom-removal got entirely backed out or just partly?
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  1078. # [10:41] <glazou> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2233476
  1079. # [10:44] <glandium> glazou: an empty one
  1080. # [10:44] <glazou> trying again then ; look at the pastebin above please
  1081. # [10:44] <glandium> bsmedberg: just one of the two patches, but the first patch is not doing anything really
  1082. # [10:45] <@bsmedberg> glandium: the problem was running directly from dist/bin?
  1083. # [10:45] <glandium> bsmedberg: yeah
  1084. # [10:45] * @bsmedberg wonders why that would have been a problem
  1085. # [10:45] <glandium> bsmedberg: because the standalone glue conveniently does realpath
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  1087. # [10:45] <@bsmedberg> oh!
  1088. # [10:45] <glandium> bsmedberg: i'm testing this: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/65a4eafc7e3a
  1089. # [10:46] <@bsmedberg> the NSDISTMODE=copy was saving us
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  1092. # [10:46] <glandium> bsmedberg: yeah, but for the size of libxul, that doesn't pan out
  1093. # [10:46] <@bsmedberg> but copying libxul.so is more unfortunate
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  1095. # [10:47] <glandium> there's really too much duplicate code in the nsGlueLinking*.cpp files
  1096. # [10:47] <glazou> glandium: fresh tree, empty .mozconfig, fails same error
  1097. # [10:49] <glandium> glazou: can you give more context around that error?
  1098. # [10:49] <glazou> hold on
  1099. # [10:49] <glazou> rebuilding from fresh and will pastebin
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  1101. # [10:52] <glandium> glazou: you're not using pymake from the source tree you're building
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  1105. # [10:54] <glazou> glandium: uh ?
  1106. # [10:54] <glazou> OOOOH
  1107. # [10:54] <glazou> fsck
  1108. # [10:54] <glazou> thanks glandium
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  1114. # [10:57] <gaston> hmpf i so hope nss 3.14.3 is not the commit that broke me..
  1115. # [10:57] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: how do profile markers work? Is it something present in release builds, and would it be hard to include them in crash reports?
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  1118. # [10:59] <Standard8> glandium: fyi, I have the c-c version of that patch on my drive now
  1119. # [11:00] <glazou> glandium: I owe you a beer
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  1124. # [11:00] <BenWa> bsmedberg: If the profiler isn't running the call gets ignored
  1125. # [11:01] <@bsmedberg> BenWa: for perf reasons?
  1126. # [11:01] <@bsmedberg> how much overhead is it actually?
  1127. # [11:01] <BenWa> bsmedberg: So you can modify the call to add a breakpad annotation. But I'm not convinced that it's useful
  1128. # [11:01] <BenWa> hold on, let talk in person
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  1130. # [11:01] <BenWa> Awhh, your way at the back :(
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  1132. # [11:03] <glandium> glazou: you have less than 3 months to deliver
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  1135. # [11:05] <glazou> glandium: flying away ?
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  1138. # [11:05] <glandium> glazou: yep, far east
  1139. # [11:05] <glazou> wow, japan ?
  1140. # [11:06] <glandium> yup
  1141. # [11:06] <glazou> cool:)
  1142. # [11:06] <glazou> so when are you in paris next time?
  1143. # [11:07] <glandium> glazou: i'm close enough to paris that it can be about any time
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  1145. # [11:07] <glazou> let me know next time
  1146. # [11:08] <glandium> glazou: in fact, iirc, i'm closer to paris than you are ;)
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  1255. # [12:40] <NeilAway> why does http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2ffeac43b95e think it touched MediaStreamGraph.cpp and who really touched it?
  1256. # [12:43] <padenot> NeilAway: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7b6f1f18c052
  1257. # [12:43] <padenot> (for the "who really touched it" part)
  1258. # [12:43] <padenot> not sure why it appears in the other commit
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  1262. # [12:50] <NeilAway> padenot: close: part 3, actually
  1263. # [12:50] <NeilAway> padenot: (for the line which I was interested in)
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  1266. # [12:52] <NeilAway> padenot: my understanding is that it appears in the other commit because of a bug in hg rebase from 2.1 to 2.5 or something
  1267. # [12:52] <padenot> ok
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  1274. # [12:56] <edmorley> NeilAway: an hg hook has been put into place to block those bad csets (bug 843081), but that was after that cset landed
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  1276. # [12:57] <edmorley> tl;dr hg rebase bug that means the client can submit bad manifests to the server, affecting all other clients
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  1324. # [13:31] <no_gravity> Hello! Is it a known bug that sometimes Firefox hangs forever when connecting to a certain domain? Even when closing the window and opening a new one. Only restarting firefox helps. It seems to be reproducable like this: Connect to a page on the domain that keeps the connection open. Then try to connect to some other page: hangs forever.
  1325. # [13:32] <no_gravity> And in the status line its written "waiting for www.example.com"
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  1327. # [13:33] <@roc> that can happen when the connection limit to a given server is reached because an existing page is keeping a lot of connections open forever
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  1329. # [13:34] <no_gravity> roc: yes, but i closed the tab with the page
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  1331. # [13:35] <no_gravity> roc: there is no way to make firefox interact with the whole domain anymore.
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  1333. # [13:36] <@roc> dunno
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  1344. # [13:47] <mounir> mach build -j8 and mach -j8 build doesn't work, what's the correct way to pass -j?
  1345. # [13:47] <froydnj> mach automagically chooses -j for you
  1346. # [13:49] <mounir> froydnj: I remember a discussion about that in the mailing list
  1347. # [13:49] <mounir> but I do not want -j to be automagic
  1348. # [13:50] <edmorley> mounir: I think it still uses the value in the mozconfig
  1349. # [13:50] <edmorley> it just has a default in case
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  1352. # [13:50] <edmorley> though I could be wrong
  1353. # [13:50] <mounir> edmorley: will try that, thanks
  1354. # [13:51] <mounir> froydnj: it happens that the -j value highly depends on your hardware
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  1358. # [13:53] <mjrosenb> anyone know if douglas crosher is in here?
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  1362. # [13:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/431d49245e29 - Neil Deakin - Bug 480356, move content page tooltip text generation code into tooltip binding so that it can be shared, r=neil,mratcliffe
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  1379. # [14:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14865f4247b8 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 853028 - GC: Fix some rooting issues found by static analysis r=terrence
  1380. # [14:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71d22cbf207f - Jon Coppeard - Bug 853028 - Add JSID_VOIDHANDLE and JSID_EMPTYHANDLE r=terrence
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  1401. # [14:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65f79a842388 - Brandon Waterloo - Bug 719318 - Better default window sizes. r=dolske
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  1403. # [14:27] <RyanVM> roc: ping
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  1408. # [14:33] <RyanVM> jimm: ping
  1409. # [14:34] <jimm> RyanVM: pong
  1410. # [14:34] <RyanVM> jimm: what was the reason for resolving bug 798219 as WFM?
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  1432. # [14:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/753be4a4cf9f - Richard Marti - Bug 814041 - Fix menulist item padding and active text color on Windows XP. r=fryn
  1433. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46519785800d - Shelly Lin - Bug 847809 - Add audio/amr to the supported decode type of OMX, but disable it if this AMR is loaded from Web pages. r=roc
  1434. # [14:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/626c4a0f2047 - Chris Coulson - Bug 852540 - Store the file extension on the nsMIMEInfoUnix returned from nsGNOMERegistry::GetFromExtension. r=karlt
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  1446. # [14:55] <edmorley> RyanVM: I would guess jimm maybe just wanted to CC and inadvertently changed it? reopened
  1447. # [14:56] <jimm> RyanVM: I was looking back over the last few days of win8 runs on inbound and didn't see it.
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  1451. # [14:56] <jimm> is it still happening?
  1452. # [14:56] <jimm> I went back to monday on tbpl.
  1453. # [14:56] <RyanVM> yes, on non-Win8 systems :P
  1454. # [14:56] <jimm> oh, shoot
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  1456. # [14:56] <jimm> was that not a win8 specific bug?
  1457. # [14:56] <jimm> sorry
  1458. # [14:56] <RyanVM> very much preexisting
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  1461. # [14:57] <jaws> gkw: i didn't try to confirm, but i'm pretty sure you are correct about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852750. i just filed bug 853432.
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  1467. # [15:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33db8e5b18ef - Jim Mathies - Bug 852967 - Simplify marker selection changes for text inputs. r=mbrubeck
  1468. # [15:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3025def19eb9 - Jim Mathies - Bug 852088 - Add drag caret to select text support. r-fryn
  1469. # [15:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51d0ff5dc48e - Jim Mathies - Bug 852619 - Tap off form input to clear caret selection should clear focus. r=ally
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  1479. # [15:04] <Standard8> edmorley: glandium: part of bug 852950 was backed out...
  1480. # [15:04] <Standard8> shouldn't be fixed aiui
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  1483. # [15:06] <edmorley> Standard8: was missing [leave open]; have reopened
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  1493. # [15:10] <ewong> given this push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=33db8e5b18ef , can someone point out how I can stack/queue my patches such that it's grouped like what jmathies did?
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  1496. # [15:13] <ewong> I mean in one push..
  1497. # [15:13] <@gavin> what do you mean "grouped"?
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  1499. # [15:13] <ewong> gavin I mean having a series of patches together in one push
  1500. # [15:14] <@gavin> you just commit multiple patches and then push them
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  1502. # [15:14] <ewong> ah ok thanks gavin!
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  1504. # [15:15] <ewong> never done anything like that before.. all my pushes were single patches.. so if I had to push two patches.. I'd push them individually ;P
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  1517. # [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6de905faa4df - Ekanan Ketunuti - Bug 853428 - Use spaces instead of tabs for indentation in search.xml. r=jAwS
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  1519. # [15:26] <RyanVM> jimm: are we supposed to be running win8 tests on all trees?
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  1521. # [15:27] <jimm> RyanVM: ask armenzg_buildduty
  1522. # [15:27] <RyanVM> I am in #releng
  1523. # [15:27] <armenzg_buildduty> we can discuss here
  1524. # [15:28] <RyanVM> jimm: i'm worried about all the test annotating you had to do on m-c
  1525. # [15:28] <RyanVM> that wasn't done elsewhere
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  1527. # [15:28] <armenzg_buildduty> I enabled across the board
  1528. # [15:28] <armenzg_buildduty> we can disable on m-a, m-b and m-r
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  1530. # [15:28] <RyanVM> talos is already dying on b2g18 due to unsupported version
  1531. # [15:28] <armenzg_buildduty> where else?
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  1533. # [15:28] <RyanVM> b2g18_v1_0_1 too
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  1535. # [15:30] <jimm> RyanVM: we can promote patches to release branches
  1536. # [15:30] <RyanVM> jimm: I'm fine with that
  1537. # [15:31] <RyanVM> jimm: if you want to do that, then what branches did you want to do that one?
  1538. # [15:31] <philor> good luck with a new talos on release branches, though
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  1540. # [15:31] <RyanVM> on*
  1541. # [15:31] <RyanVM> I'm thinking b2g18_v1_0_1 is overkill
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  1543. # [15:31] <RyanVM> jimm: and I'll hide them by default on all the release branches until you get htem green
  1544. # [15:32] <RyanVM> jimm: probably not worth much effort for beta at this point in the cycle either
  1545. # [15:32] <RyanVM> so I would say aurora and b2g18 are the most interesting/relevant
  1546. # [15:32] <RyanVM> and beta after the next uplift
  1547. # [15:33] <RyanVM> agreed?
  1548. # [15:33] <jimm> not sure about b2g18, why would that run win8 tests?
  1549. # [15:33] <jimm> if it is, just hide the failures.
  1550. # [15:34] <jimm> I can nom everything for aurora now
  1551. # [15:34] <RyanVM> jimm: test-only changes don't need approval
  1552. # [15:34] <RyanVM> just a=test-only
  1553. # [15:34] <jimm> oh neat
  1554. # [15:34] <RyanVM> jimm: I wouldn't shed any tears about not running on b2g18 either
  1555. # [15:34] * armenzg_buildduty leaves aurora for now in his patches
  1556. # [15:35] <RyanVM> sounds good :P :)
  1557. # [15:35] <philor> RyanVM: inbound bustage
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  1559. # [15:35] <RyanVM> *(#$!@ B2G !
  1560. # [15:36] <philor> RyanVM: b2g18 bustage ;)
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  1563. # [15:37] <RyanVM> philor: screw that, not mine :P
  1564. # [15:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9fb17feaa70 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 46519785800d (bug 847809) for B2G bustage.
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  1566. # [15:38] <philor> oh, that, yeah
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  1568. # [15:39] <philor> I doubt Redhat's claim they want us to file a bug about a segfault in an ancient random as
  1569. # [15:39] <@bz> hrm
  1570. # [15:39] <@bz> is the "edit search" link in Bugzilla broken?
  1571. # [15:39] <@bz> ah, nevermind
  1572. # [15:40] <RyanVM> philor: so that patch was green on Try
  1573. # [15:41] <RyanVM> philor: ah, I think it was due to some WebIDLification
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  1575. # [15:41] <RyanVM> probably just needs to lose the 'ns'
  1576. # [15:41] <RyanVM> oh well, that's for her to figure out :)
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  1579. # [15:42] <@bz> hmm?
  1580. # [15:42] <@bz> what about webidl?
  1581. # [15:43] <@bz> Oh, nsHTMLMediaElement
  1582. # [15:43] <@bz> yeah, well
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  1584. # [15:44] <joe> holy crap holy crap
  1585. # [15:44] <joe> video
  1586. # [15:44] <joe> http://conversat.io/joedrew
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  1588. # [15:44] <@bz> holy cow
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  1590. # [15:44] <@bz> it asks me for stuff
  1591. # [15:44] <joe> give it stuff!
  1592. # [15:45] <jaws> joe, i'm there
  1593. # [15:45] <joe> i don't see anyone but jeff and benoit
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  1595. # [15:45] <annevk> I only see myself
  1596. # [15:45] * @bz sees jeff
  1597. # [15:45] <@bz> but no one else
  1598. # [15:45] <joe> huh
  1599. # [15:46] <jaws> i'm talking to bz
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  1601. # [15:46] <annevk> I'm on 20.0beta
  1602. # [15:46] <annevk> is that a problem?
  1603. # [15:46] <@bz> annevk: update
  1604. # [15:46] <annevk> :-)
  1605. # [15:46] <@bz> annevk: almost certainly, for webrtc stuff
  1606. # [15:46] <@bz> Did I disappear?
  1607. # [15:46] <@bz> (my camera light went off, so I assume so)
  1608. # [15:46] <joe> bz: we can hear things moving around, but i never saw you
  1609. # [15:46] <@bz> joe: interesting
  1610. # [15:47] <@bz> joe: well, some kinks remain!
  1611. # [15:47] <joe> the videos move from place to place
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  1613. # [15:47] <joe> philor: btw, sorry for pushing that broken bs last night
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  1615. # [15:48] <RyanVM> armenzg_buildduty: I'm a bit confused - aurora is riding the trains now?
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  1617. # [15:48] <RyanVM> armenzg_buildduty: I thought we were going to leave them running (albeit hidden) on aurora and jimm was going to go ahead and green it up
  1618. # [15:48] <armenzg_buildduty> RyanVM: I thought that jimm was going to uplift to aurora and we could hide it until he completes it
  1619. # [15:48] <RyanVM> yes, OK
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  1621. # [15:49] <philor> joe: no worries, it backed out fine
  1622. # [15:49] <armenzg_buildduty> RyanVM: where did you get a different impression?
  1623. # [15:49] <RyanVM> sorry, I read that as riding the same as beta/release
  1624. # [15:49] <jimm> I can land on both aurora and beta
  1625. # [15:49] <armenzg_buildduty> philor: edmorley RyanVM FYI I renamed "Rev3 WINNT 6.2" jobs to "WINNT 6.2"
  1626. # [15:49] <RyanVM> jimm: I was suggest leaving beta alone at this point, even though test-ony
  1627. # [15:49] <RyanVM> at least without talking to lsblakk or akeybl first
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  1629. # [15:50] <jimm> I'm fine leaving it along. less work for me.
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  1632. # [15:51] <jimm> *alone
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  1636. # [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/559990932762 - Ioana Budnar - Bug 633691 - Add automated test. r=jaws
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  1655. # [16:06] <AryehGregor> 2:00.01 /mnt/ssd/checkouts/central/js/xpconnect/src/XPCComponents.cpp:4766:14: warning: variable ‘res’ set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable]
  1656. # [16:06] <AryehGregor> Is this warning just bogus? It sure looks used to me.
  1657. # [16:06] <AryehGregor> *vp = JS_NumberValue((double) res);
  1658. # [16:06] <AryehGregor> Why would gcc think that's unused?
  1659. # [16:06] <coderus_> Hello! Can i ask about some XPCOM API here?
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  1661. # [16:07] <joe> smaug: so did bug 716140 cause the AWSY regression?
  1662. # [16:07] <joe> do we know?
  1663. # [16:07] <joe> jlebar: ^ same question
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  1665. # [16:07] <AryehGregor> coderus_, doesn't hurt to try.
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  1668. # [16:08] <@bz> AryehGregor: gcc is dumb
  1669. # [16:08] <@smaug> joe: well, https://areweslimyet.com/ strongly hints so
  1670. # [16:08] <@bz> AryehGregor: e.g. it may be getting confused by the doResult bits
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  1673. # [16:09] <joe> smaug: seems like it might be yeah
  1674. # [16:10] <coderus_> well, i'm working around nsIDownloadManager, getting active downloads data using JS, and need to convert download target path's nsIURI.spec to UTF16 format to display unicode characters, not uri escaped %D0%D6 etc. Using JS.
  1675. # [16:10] <joe> smaug: that is, if clicking on the pushlog button on AWSY is the pushlog from whatever changed from the last run
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  1677. # [16:11] <@smaug> joe: you may need to verify that from johns
  1678. # [16:12] <joe> it makes some sense
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  1680. # [16:12] <joe> smaug: what usually kills compartments?
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  1684. # [16:13] <AryehGregor> What convention should be used for passing an nsINode as an in/out parameter?
  1685. # [16:13] <AryehGregor> ehsan can answer that. :)
  1686. # [16:13] <Mavericks> coderus_: how's that coming so far - uri escaped probably better than boxes :P
  1687. # [16:14] <AryehGregor> nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMNode>* aInOutNode, int32_t* aInOutOffset,
  1688. # [16:14] <AryehGregor> That should become what in a function signature?
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  1690. # [16:14] <coderus_> Mavericks: unicode font always here, it's not a problem :)
  1691. # [16:14] <@ehsan> I hate that pattern :(
  1692. # [16:15] <@smaug> joe: when there are no objects left in the compartment or something like that
  1693. # [16:15] <@ehsan> problem is you can't use nsINode** if the caller uses getter_AddRefs
  1694. # [16:15] <AryehGregor> Well, I can update callers.
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  1696. # [16:15] <AryehGregor> (I think you might have meant something more than that, though)
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  1698. # [16:15] <@ehsan> you can't update future callers ;)
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  1700. # [16:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb0aff9c9129 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 847839 - Remove some remnants of XUL fennec from the android widget codebase. r=cpeterson
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  1714. # [16:27] <NeilAway> aargh, stupid silent crashes :s
  1715. # [16:28] <coderus_> Mavericks: nvm, got it from nsIDownload.targetFile.path without any conversion needed :)
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  1723. # [16:32] <AryehGregor> NeilAway, I haven't figured out yet, I'm cleaning up legacy editor code.
  1724. # [16:32] <@khuey> NeilAway: ty
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  1737. # [16:37] <AryehGregor> How should I create a new text node from C++, in a fashion that returns an nsINode* or something compatible?
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  1742. # [16:38] <AryehGregor> (replacing a nsIDOMDocument::CreateTextNode call)
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  1744. # [16:39] <AryehGregor> ehsan, ^
  1745. # [16:39] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: NS_NewTextNode?
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  1748. # [16:41] <AryehGregor> ehsan, what do I have to include to get that to work? I don't see any callers in the tree . . .
  1749. # [16:41] <AryehGregor> Oh, cool, we have a mozilla::dom::Text these days.
  1750. # [16:41] <AryehGregor> Nice.
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  1755. # [16:43] <@bz> AryehGregor: nsIDocument::CreateTextNode ?
  1756. # [16:43] <AryehGregor> Okay, thanks.
  1757. # [16:43] <@ehsan> AryehGregor: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsContentCreatorFunctions.h
  1758. # [16:43] <@ehsan> yeah that works too
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  1760. # [16:43] <seth> anyone Colloquoy users know how to get the newest version to automatically reconnect after disconnection? this _was_ working until I installed an automatic update, and now I can't even find an option that controls it
  1761. # [16:43] <@bz> nsIDocument::CreateTextNode probably has better ergonomics
  1762. # [16:43] <@bz> we should really fix NS_NewTextNode to have a saner signature...
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  1764. # [16:44] <AryehGregor> Hmm, so why is this fallible?
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  1766. # [16:45] <AryehGregor> Is OOM actually possible in this case?
  1767. # [16:45] <@bz> which "this"?
  1768. # [16:45] <@bz> createTextNode ?
  1769. # [16:45] <AryehGregor> Yeah.
  1770. # [16:45] <@bz> Unclear
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  1772. # [16:46] * @bz checks something
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  1774. # [16:46] <@bz> The basic question is whether nodeinfo alloc is fallible
  1775. # [16:47] <@bz> And in particular, PL_HashTableAdd
  1776. # [16:47] * AryehGregor thinks he might have traced this down once and found it boiled down to something unreasonable and hard to change, but might be confusing it with something else
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  1778. # [16:47] * @bz has no clue whether PL_HashTableAdd is infallible...
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  1780. # [16:48] <@bz> But I guess we could runtimeabort in GetNodeInfo if it fails
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  1782. # [16:48] <@bz> and make all this stuff infallible
  1783. # [16:48] * @bz would approve
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  1810. # [16:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3ed701c01eb2 - Brian Hackett - Bug 839209 - Relax CanFakeSync. r=dvander, a=lsblakk
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  1818. # [17:02] <joe> anyone object to me firing off a new nightly on the latest merge to m-c?
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  1821. # [17:03] <edmorley> joe: go ahead :-)
  1822. # [17:03] <joe> i'd like more widespread testing of my imagelib refactoring
  1823. # [17:03] <joe> wooo done
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  1827. # [17:04] <edmorley> (only normal caveat is making sure it doesn't race with an already in progress nightly due to breaking update snippets, but it's hours since that started)
  1828. # [17:04] <joe> yeah latest nightlies are already today's build
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  1830. # [17:06] <mbrubeck> New game!
  1831. # [17:06] <mbrubeck> $ hg log -l 50 -u mbrubeck --stat|awk '/^ [0-9]+ files,/ { ins += $4; del += $6; } END { print ins, "insertions,", del, "deletions" }'
  1832. # [17:06] <mbrubeck> 1519 insertions, 3248 deletions
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  1835. # [17:07] <mbrubeck> Anyone want to try to beat that?
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  1838. # [17:08] <@khuey> mbrubeck: why -l 50?
  1839. # [17:08] <mbrubeck> arbitrary... 'hg log' is slow on Windows
  1840. # [17:08] <mbrubeck> and in general
  1841. # [17:09] <@khuey> insertions, deletions
  1842. # [17:09] <@khuey> yay msys!
  1843. # [17:09] <mbrubeck> hmm
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  1845. # [17:09] <mdas> lsblakk: my approved-b2g18 patch has conflicts with mozilla-b2g18. I'm going to see if the missing patches can be applied, but if not is it safe to resolve the conflict, upload a new attachment and land on mozilla-b2g18, or does some further approval need to happen?
  1846. # [17:09] <mbrubeck> I'm running this in msys from mozilla-build
  1847. # [17:09] <froydnj> khuey: you lose
  1848. # [17:09] <RyanVM> jimm: I'm assuming you'll file the "un-hide win8 tests on aurora" bug
  1849. # [17:09] <@khuey> froydnj: apparently
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  1851. # [17:09] <@khuey> mbrubeck: oh do I need to use my full email address?
  1852. # [17:09] <@khuey> nope that didn't help
  1853. # [17:10] * @khuey shrugs
  1854. # [17:10] <RyanVM> lsblakk: it's test-only, fwiw
  1855. # [17:10] <@bz> man
  1856. # [17:10] <jdm> yeah, I'm getting the same
  1857. # [17:10] <@khuey> apparently I've done nothing!
  1858. # [17:10] <@bz> hg log is slow-ass
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  1860. # [17:10] <mbrubeck> khuey: "hg log -u khuey" works for me
  1861. # [17:10] <@bz> insertions, deletions
  1862. # [17:10] <mbrubeck> Maybe your diffstat output is in a different format? Can you pastebin "hg log -r. --stat"?
  1863. # [17:10] <@bz> is what I get
  1864. # [17:10] <@khuey> bz: 16 seconds for 126k csets isn't too bad
  1865. # [17:10] <@khuey> IMO
  1866. # [17:10] <@bz> layout/generic/nsHTMLCanvasFrame.cpp | 2 +-
  1867. # [17:10] <@bz> 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
  1868. # [17:11] <jimm> RyanVM: sure
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  1871. # [17:11] <@bz> note "changed"?
  1872. # [17:11] <mbrubeck> oops, I accidentally added a comma
  1873. # [17:11] <mbrubeck> It should be:hg log -l 50 -u mbrubeck --stat|awk '/^ [0-9]+ files/ { ins += $4; del += $6; } END { print ins, "insertions,", del, "deletions" }'
  1874. # [17:11] <mbrubeck> hg log -l 50 -u mbrubeck --stat|awk '/^ [0-9]+ files,/ { ins += $4; del += $6; } END { print ins, "insertions,", del, "deletions" }'
  1875. # [17:12] <mbrubeck> ARGH
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  1878. # [17:12] <mbrubeck> hg log -l 50 -u mbrubeck --stat|awk '/^ [0-9]+ files/ { ins += $4; del += $6; } END { print ins, "insertions,", del, "deletions" }'
  1879. # [17:12] <mbrubeck> ^^^ that one
  1880. # [17:12] <@bz> khuey: maybe it's the --stat that's a problem
  1881. # [17:12] <@bz> 2666 insertions, 2479 deletions
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  1883. # [17:12] <jdm> 3516 insertions, 2430 deletions
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  1885. # [17:13] * @bz notes that -l 50 means 5 bugs or so
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  1887. # [17:13] <mbrubeck> ha
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  1889. # [17:13] <mbrubeck> We could do it based on time instead...
  1890. # [17:13] <@khuey> 5105 insertions, 3531 deletions
  1891. # [17:13] <@khuey> how do I have more than bz ...?
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  1894. # [17:13] <cpeterson> there should be a weekly award for the person with the most deletions for that week.
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  1896. # [17:14] <@bz> 20 bugs, actually
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  1898. # [17:14] <@khuey> oh, it counts backouts
  1899. # [17:14] <@khuey> that may explain a bit ;-)
  1900. # [17:14] <philor> 19729 insertions, 19268 deletions :)
  1901. # [17:14] <@bz> khuey: heh
  1902. # [17:14] <@bz> philor++
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  1904. # [17:14] <@khuey> yeah I was just running philor ;-)
  1905. # [17:15] * @bz tries -l 100
  1906. # [17:15] <@bz> So yeah
  1907. # [17:15] <tbsaunde> man, I've added 15k lines totally :/
  1908. # [17:15] <@bz> time hg log -u bzbarsky says 13 secs
  1909. # [17:15] <@bz> with -l50 it's like 0.3s
  1910. # [17:15] <mbrubeck> --stat probably takes a lot longer
  1911. # [17:15] <@bz> but --stat kills it
  1912. # [17:16] * @bz checks
  1913. # [17:16] <mbrubeck> -u gps -l 50: 62904 insertions, 42883 deletions
  1914. # [17:16] <@bz> --stat -l50 is 25s
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  1916. # [17:16] <froydnj> -l 50 somehow picks up only three patches from 2 years ago
  1917. # [17:16] <RyanVM> 50818 insertions, 55366 deletions
  1918. # [17:16] <RyanVM> woowoo
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  1920. # [17:17] <jdm> heh
  1921. # [17:17] <@bz> -l100 is 42s
  1922. # [17:17] * @bz removes the -l and sees what will happen
  1923. # [17:17] <RyanVM> apparently being a merge maven is good if you're a stat whore
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  1925. # [17:18] <mbrubeck> oops, should have put a "-m" in there. :P
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  1927. # [17:18] <tbsaunde> git log is 3s \O/ :)
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  1930. # [17:19] <gkw> jaws: do you mind confirming it? :)
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  1933. # [17:20] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: 1278433 insertions, 84412 deletions :D
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  1935. # [17:21] <RyanVM> lulz
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  1937. # [17:21] <@bz> RyanVM: is that -l50?
  1938. # [17:21] <@bz> (and also, nice insertions number)
  1939. # [17:21] <RyanVM> that's mbrubeck's from above with a -m added
  1940. # [17:22] <RyanVM> so yeah, -l 50
  1941. # [17:22] <@bz> What does -m do?
  1942. # [17:22] <philor> 1278433 insertions? no wonder Firefox is bloated
  1943. # [17:22] * @bz sees -M....
  1944. # [17:22] <RyanVM> bz: apparently it makes my numbers bigger :D
  1945. # [17:22] <@bz> mmm
  1946. # [17:23] * RyanVM runs again with -M
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  1948. # [17:23] <RyanVM> well that's not nearly as fun
  1949. # [17:23] <RyanVM> 8265 insertions, 10678 deletions
  1950. # [17:24] <mbrubeck> oh yeah, I meant I should have added "-M" :P
  1951. # [17:24] <glazou> ahlalala :-)
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  1955. # [17:24] <RyanVM> ryanvm e-manhood--
  1956. # [17:24] <We11ington> Does anyone know if jmathies is still around? I need to ask him about gestures on Windows
  1957. # [17:25] <RyanVM> jimm^
  1958. # [17:25] <@bz> RyanVM: still a fair number
  1959. # [17:25] <We11ington> Okay, that's the new name :)
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  1961. # [17:25] <jimm> We11ington: yo
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  1963. # [17:25] <We11ington> jimm: Quick question. I'm looking through the Windows code
  1964. # [17:25] <tbsaunde> man asking git for a log with --stat all the way back to cvs 1.1 brings it to its knees
  1965. # [17:25] <We11ington> Windows doesn't send a MozMagnifyGesture event (i.e. the end-of-gesture event)
  1966. # [17:25] <We11ington> Mac does--any reason for the disparity?
  1967. # [17:26] <jimm> I think that's just a bug in the windows code
  1968. # [17:26] <We11ington> Both send MozMagnifyGestureStart and MozMagnifyGestureUPdate
  1969. # [17:26] <We11ington> jimm: Aha, well, I'll make a bug report and patch it. Easy :)
  1970. # [17:26] <jimm> thanks :)
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  1979. # [17:29] * @bz is still waiting on his log without -l
  1980. # [17:29] <@bz> tbsaunde: heh
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  1982. # [17:30] <@bz> here we go
  1983. # [17:30] <@bz> 309847 insertions, 169499 deletions
  1984. # [17:30] * @bz is net positive, sadly
  1985. # [17:31] <mbrubeck> Someone has to actually write the code... not all of us can just sit around deleting it. :)
  1986. # [17:31] <RyanVM> heh
  1987. # [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b75fab8561b - Bobby Holley - Bug 844783 - Disable XBL scopes for XUL-whitelisted domains. r=bz
  1988. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24c95448c549 - Bobby Holley - Bug 848939 - De-field videocontrols.xml. r=dao
  1989. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/775abfe4876f - Bobby Holley - Bug 844783 - Tests. r=bz
  1990. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43d0932a0b9c - Bobby Holley - Bug 848939 - De-field scale.xml. r=jaws
  1991. # [17:32] <@bz> mbrubeck: we have a lot of 90s code that could use deleting
  1992. # [17:33] <bholley> bz: what patch is this?
  1993. # [17:33] <mbrubeck> ALL THE PATCHES
  1994. # [17:33] <@bz> bholley: that's the aggregate of all my hg changesets
  1995. # [17:33] <@bz> bholley: "my" being me as author
  1996. # [17:34] <bholley> bz: ah
  1997. # [17:34] <@bz> bholley: assuming hg is not lying to me, etc
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  2000. # [17:34] <Yoric> paolo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6680491/why-does-windows-return-error-access-denied-when-i-try-to-open-a-delete-pended-f
  2001. # [17:34] <bholley> bz: so that's since 2008
  2002. # [17:34] <bholley> bz: you should try with the git repo
  2003. # [17:34] <@bz> bholley: earlier, I'd think
  2004. # [17:34] <@bz> bholley: too much work. ;)
  2005. # [17:34] <bholley> bz: since that has CVS history
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  2007. # [17:35] <bholley> bz: it would also be interesting to check the blame
  2008. # [17:35] <bholley> bz: and see how much of the current codebase you're responsible for :-)
  2009. # [17:35] <@bz> heh
  2010. # [17:35] <@bz> "not much"
  2011. # [17:35] <Optimizer> Too much speculation landing in Nightly :D
  2012. # [17:36] <@bz> Depends on the file, I guess
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  2015. # [17:36] <@bz> hg anno -u layout/base/nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp | grep bzbarsky | wc -l
  2016. # [17:36] <@bz> 4806
  2017. # [17:36] <@bz> wc -l layout/base/nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp
  2018. # [17:36] <@bz> 12490 layout/base/nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp
  2019. # [17:36] <AryehGregor> If I have an nsIDOMDocument*, how can I get an nsIDocument*?
  2020. # [17:36] <@bz> QI
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  2022. # [17:38] <AryehGregor> So first assign to an nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMDocument>, then assign that with QI to an nsCOMPtr<nsIDocument>?
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  2025. # [17:38] <@bz> you don't need the nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMDocument>
  2026. # [17:38] <AryehGregor> Oh, okay.
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  2028. # [17:38] <@bz> Just nsCOMPtr<nsIDocument> doc = do_QueryInterface(mynsIDOMDocument);
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  2031. # [17:39] * AryehGregor doesn't know how all this QI stuff works, thankfully 0:)
  2032. # [17:39] <@bz> And then depending on what you know null-check
  2033. # [17:39] <@bz> but really, if you can avoid having an nsIDOMDocument to start with.... ;)
  2034. # [17:39] <AryehGregor> Is it guaranteed to be non-null if the input is non-null?
  2035. # [17:39] <AryehGregor> Well, yeah, I'm hoping . . .
  2036. # [17:39] <@bz> no
  2037. # [17:39] <AryehGregor> Yay.
  2038. # [17:39] <@bz> Depending on where this input comes from
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  2041. # [17:40] <tbsaunde> tbsaunde@iceball:/src/moz3$ git log --author=bzbarsky --stat | awk '/^ [0-9]+ files/ { ins += $4; del += $6; } END { print ins, "insertions,", del, "deletions" }'
  2042. # [17:40] <tbsaunde> 448132 insertions, 313840 deletions
  2043. # [17:40] <tbsaunde> bz: bholley was curious so ^
  2044. # [17:40] <@bz> If the input is a real document, then it'll be non-null
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  2046. # [17:40] <@bz> but if input is some random JS object....
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  2048. # [17:40] <@bz> Where's your nsIDOMDocument coming from?
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  2050. # [17:40] <bholley> tbsaunde: what about bobbyholley?
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  2053. # [17:41] <AryehGregor> bz, function parameter in editing code.
  2054. # [17:41] <AryehGregor> So, *probably* sane, but . . .
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  2059. # [17:43] <tbsaunde> bholley: 366056 insertions, 360240 deletions
  2060. # [17:43] <@bz> depends on whether it chains back to JS
  2061. # [17:43] <@bz> Alternately...
  2062. # [17:43] <bholley> whoa!
  2063. # [17:43] <@bz> just mark nsIDOMDocument as builtinclass
  2064. # [17:43] <@bz> and then you can stop worrying about that dumb edgecase
  2065. # [17:43] <bholley> tbsaunde: I've really landed almost as much code as bz?
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  2068. # [17:43] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: in firefox/distribution/bundles/somename/chrome.manifest
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  2070. # [17:43] <@bz> bholley: quick, remove 6kloc somewhere!
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  2073. # [17:44] * bholley kills slim wrappers
  2074. # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: add "content yorictest file:///Users/yoric/path"
  2075. # [17:44] <tbsaunde> bholley: apparently, I'm suprised too...
  2076. # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> Yoric: and then you can load chrome:///yorictest/content/something.html
  2077. # [17:44] <bholley> tbsaunde: I did a one-time mass-restyle of XPConnect, but that's only 50kloc or so
  2078. # [17:44] <bholley> tbsaunde: oh! I moved a bunch of directories around
  2079. # [17:45] <bholley> tbsaunde: I wonder if that counts
  2080. # [17:45] <tbsaunde> bholley: certainly possible
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  2083. # [17:47] <tbsaunde> bholley: yeah, if I pass -M you get 47245 insertions, 41429 deletions
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  2085. # [17:47] <@ehsan> jlebar: ping
  2086. # [17:47] <bholley> tbsaunde: that seems more reasonable
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  2091. # [17:48] <tbsaunde> bholley: yeah, though now I'm suprised you added only slightly more than I have
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  2121. # [18:01] <bholley> I'm the only person who pushed to inbound in the last 1.5 hours. Is everyone dead or something?
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  2133. # [18:05] <tn> bholley, no one trusts your push, waiting to see it explode :)
  2134. # [18:05] <bholley> tn: ;-)
  2135. # [18:06] <bholley> tn: it does look kind of ominous, doesn't it
  2136. # [18:06] <tbsaunde> tn: if you think a push is bad shouldn't you race to get in before the tree closes?
  2137. # [18:06] <Ms2ger> We never trust bholley, he should be used to that by now :)
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  2140. # [18:07] <RyanVM> not trusting bholley is definitely a wise course of action
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  2142. # [18:07] <bholley> RyanVM: maybe you should preemptively close the tree
  2143. # [18:07] <RyanVM> especially with a landing attempt #3 in the mix :P
  2144. # [18:07] <bholley> RyanVM: the de-fielding stuff?
  2145. # [18:07] <bholley> RyanVM: yeah
  2146. # [18:07] <Ms2ger> Third backout is wontfix, right? :)
  2147. # [18:07] <RyanVM> haha
  2148. # [18:08] <RyanVM> third backout should be 4 hours of sheriff duty
  2149. # [18:09] <bholley> RyanVM: with patches like "Stop doing all the crazy stuff", what could possibly go wrong?
  2150. # [18:09] <till> azakai|far: ping
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  2152. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, you're too nice :)
  2153. # [18:10] <RyanVM> bholley :)
  2154. # [18:10] <bholley> Ms2ger: this patch will significantly simplify killing slim wrappers :-)
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  2156. # [18:10] <Ms2ger> Hmm
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  2158. # [18:11] <Ms2ger> Bug 716140 hasn't been backed out yet?
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  2160. # [18:12] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: backed out? pfft, we're shipping new nightlies off it!
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  2164. # [18:12] <edmorley> same old same old :-)
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  2178. # [18:19] <mjrosenb> !seen azakai
  2179. # [18:19] <firebot> azakai was last seen 16 hours and 30 seconds ago, saying 'the benchmark suite is guaranteed to be deterministic as well' in #jsapi.
  2180. # [18:19] <RyanVM> bholley: pushed
  2181. # [18:20] <bholley> RyanVM: pushed what?
  2182. # [18:20] <bholley> RyanVM: oh. "something"
  2183. # [18:20] <RyanVM> heh
  2184. # [18:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d720cfab533f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 853273 - Annotate 456219-1a/1b.html as well.
  2185. # [18:20] <RyanVM> just wanted to make your heart skip a beat :P
  2186. # [18:20] <jet> dolske: LOL @ bug 853510
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  2192. # [18:22] <@dolske> :D
  2193. # [18:23] <jhammel> iirc TAFNA Prince was trying to sell the glyph to magazines, websites, etc back when he changed
  2194. # [18:23] <@dolske> jhammel: yes, the article mentions that. purple floppy disk!
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  2197. # [18:23] <jhammel> and in fact i believe he sued a few shops that made his glyph without buying the formal glyph; how times have changed
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  2214. # [18:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94757fd7a4ca - David Zbarsky - Bug 847120: Convert SVGFEOffsetElement to WebIDL r=Ms2ger
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  2295. # [19:00] <RyanVM> oh bholley....
  2296. # [19:00] <bholley> RyanVM: ?
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  2298. # [19:00] <RyanVM> inbound orange
  2299. # [19:00] <RyanVM> win7 debug
  2300. # [19:00] <RyanVM> and xp
  2301. # [19:00] * bholley looks
  2302. # [19:01] <bholley> hm, that's a new one
  2303. # [19:02] <jcranmer> uh, wow
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  2305. # [19:02] <jcranmer> this is some... epicly confusing bitrot
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  2307. # [19:02] <@bz> So now Beowulf is building an ark?
  2308. # [19:02] <@bz> Or are the epics not that confused
  2309. # [19:02] <@bz> ?
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  2313. # [19:04] <bholley> RyanVM: stacks aren't super helpful offhand, but it's probably bug 844783, because the de-fielding stuff has been through many a try run
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  2315. # [19:04] <jcranmer> bz: and I blame your brother :-/
  2316. # [19:04] <RyanVM> bholley: note that the previous push had win7 debug orange on the build
  2317. # [19:04] <RyanVM> so tests didn't run
  2318. # [19:04] <Ms2ger> bholley, and many an inbound run
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  2320. # [19:05] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, have you been touching svg filters?
  2321. # [19:05] <bholley> RyanVM: the GWNOJO stuff?
  2322. # [19:05] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: not... intentionally
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  2324. # [19:05] <RyanVM> bholley: just pointing out that it could be either push
  2325. # [19:06] <bholley> RyanVM: well, bug 844783 is the only one that hasn't run green on windows before
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  2327. # [19:06] <bholley> RyanVM: it could also be recent bitrot
  2328. # [19:06] <bholley> RyanVM: but the stacks indicate something about XBL constructors and XUL
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  2330. # [19:06] <bholley> RyanVM: so the remote XUL thing seems possible, though I'm still kind of puzzled
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  2332. # [19:06] <philor> and you broke jetpack
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  2334. # [19:07] <RyanVM> bholley: we can backout bug 844783 for now, but I'm hesitant to re-open unless we're sure it'll go green
  2335. # [19:07] <bholley> philor: where?
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  2337. # [19:07] <philor> bholley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1
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  2339. # [19:07] <philor> probably just one test doing something it never should have
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  2341. # [19:08] <bholley> philor: indubitably
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  2345. # [19:08] <Mossop> philor: ?
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  2347. # [19:08] <bholley> RyanVM: how long until we get results for the big push
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  2351. # [19:09] <RyanVM> bholley: i had to retrigger, so it'll be awhile
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  2353. # [19:09] <bholley> RyanVM: well, it went green over the weekend modulo b2g Mn, which caused it to get backed out
  2354. # [19:09] <philor> Mossop: you made bholley break you, he didn't want to, but you're just so bad and you won't listen and Daddy just couldn't take it any more and tell Grandma you fell of the swing
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  2356. # [19:10] <RyanVM> is it just me, or are the win8 builders falling way behind?
  2357. # [19:10] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: ping?
  2358. # [19:10] <dzbarsky1> ehsan: pong
  2359. # [19:10] <Mossop> philor: Ok, thanks for the heads up. Should be getting those tests unhidden soon
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  2362. # [19:11] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: SVGStringList::SetCapacity returns nsTArray::SetCapacity
  2363. # [19:11] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: which is always true
  2364. # [19:11] * jmaher is now known as jmaher|afk
  2365. # [19:11] <@ehsan> can we just make that function void?
  2366. # [19:11] <bholley> bz: is BindingDeclarations.h new?
  2367. # [19:11] <RyanVM> bholley: we'll see what happens with bug 844783 out
  2368. # [19:11] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: same question with other SetCapacity methods in SVG*List
  2369. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0174ae8897f8 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 775abfe4876f and 1b75fab8561b (bug 844783) under suspicion of breaking Windows debug builds on a CLOSED TREE.
  2370. # [19:13] <dzbarsky1> ehsan: why isn't nsTArray::SetCapacity void?
  2371. # [19:13] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: I have a patch which makes it void
  2372. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> bholley, -ish
  2373. # [19:13] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: so that we can catch footguns such as this or 852838 at compile time
  2374. # [19:13] <bholley> Ms2ger: can you tell me anything about those stacks?
  2375. # [19:13] <dzbarsky1> ehsan: ah. in that case, feel free to change the svg list stuff as well
  2376. # [19:13] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: with that patch, this fails the build, which is good :)
  2377. # [19:13] <@ehsan> cool
  2378. # [19:13] <@ehsan> I'll cc you on the bugs
  2379. # [19:14] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: you own this code by now, right? ;)
  2380. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> bholley, link pls?
  2381. # [19:14] <bholley> Ms2ger: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20936817&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1#error1
  2382. # [19:14] <dzbarsky1> ehsan: not really, but rs=me
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  2384. # [19:14] <@ehsan> hehe
  2385. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> set_collapsed -> GetObserves?
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  2389. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> ###!!! ASSERTION: bad flags: '(dataFlags & 0xFFFF0000) == 0', file e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000\build\obj-firefox\dist\include\nsTSubstring.h, line 783 ?
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  2392. # [19:18] <gcp> NS_IMETHOD is just virtual and NS_IMETHODIMP is a no-op, right?
  2393. # [19:18] <AryehGregor> How is ErrorResult supposed to be integrated into current code that uses nsresult?
  2394. # [19:18] <bholley> gcp: not on windows
  2395. # [19:18] <@bz> AryehGregor: in which direction?
  2396. # [19:18] <gcp> oh?
  2397. # [19:18] <@bz> gcp: declspec
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  2399. # [19:19] <@bz> gcp: different calling convention
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  2401. # [19:19] <gcp> bholley: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=839836#c5
  2402. # [19:19] <@bz> NS_IMETHOD is fine for the inlined thing
  2403. # [19:20] <@bz> iirc
  2404. # [19:20] <@bz> In particular, in practice NS_IMETHOD expands to "virtual NS_IMETHODIMP"
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  2408. # [19:21] <bholley> How do I statically initialize a 2d array of char*s?
  2409. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> You don't, I think
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  2411. # [19:21] <gcp> also...do we prefer fixing up code style issues, or do we prefer keeping code in the similar style as surrounding code?
  2412. # [19:21] <bholley> Ms2ger: really? What's the workaround?
  2413. # [19:21] <WeirdAl> Mook_as: ping
  2414. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> gcp, *I* prefer fixing style :)
  2415. # [19:22] <Mook_as> WeirdAl: pong?
  2416. # [19:22] <Ms2ger> bholley, wait, char***?
  2417. # [19:22] <bholley> I guess I can use a struct
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  2423. # [19:24] <@dolske> char***? charade? charmer? chariot?
  2424. # [19:24] <AryehGregor> bz, current code uses nsresult in the usual fashion, now I'm calling something that provides ErrorResult. Do I just do ErrorResult err; MyFunction(err); NS_ENSURE_FALSE(err->Failed(), err->ErrorCode()); or something?
  2425. # [19:24] <AryehGregor> I guess the existing use of nsresult is irrelevant.
  2426. # [19:24] <AryehGregor> I had sort of hoped it would have conversion operators and be a drop-in replacement, but apparently not.
  2427. # [19:24] <AryehGregor> (probably for good reason)
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  2429. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, yeah (except '.' instead of '->')
  2430. # [19:25] <Waldo> dolske: coming from you, those were doubtless globs, ergo "charlatan" :-P
  2431. # [19:25] <AryehGregor> Anyone want an NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS() variant for ErrorResult? :)
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  2435. # [19:26] <jcranmer> Waldo: any plans to review my mfbt-must-override patch?
  2436. # [19:26] * AryehGregor suspects this shouldn't be fallible anyway
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  2439. # [19:27] <Waldo> jcranmer: yes; but if you wanted to know "when", um, hopefully no later than a week from now
  2440. # [19:27] <gcp> if I want to forward-declare an extern "C" function in a .cpp file, does the forward also need extern "C" or not?
  2441. # [19:27] <Ms2ger> Waldo, and my CallArgs patch?
  2442. # [19:27] <gcp> forward declare, I mean prototype, I guess.
  2443. # [19:27] <Ms2ger> gcp, I suspect you do
  2444. # [19:27] <Waldo> Ms2ger: yes; but if you wanted to know "when", um, hopefully no later than a week from now
  2445. # [19:27] <Ms2ger> gcp, IANAC
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  2447. # [19:27] <gcp> not a C...?
  2448. # [19:28] * Waldo has intl reviews to do and such :-\
  2449. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> C++ knowledgeable person
  2450. # [19:28] <gcp> Nobody is.
  2451. # [19:28] <Luqman> i thought compiler
  2452. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> Luqman, that actually would work better :)
  2453. # [19:28] <jcranmer> gcp: extern "C" should apply to the function if any version is extern "C"
  2454. # [19:28] <gcp> If someone claims to know C++, that's an instant no-hire.
  2455. # [19:28] <gcp> Because we don't want liars.
  2456. # [19:29] <jcranmer> gcp: I know it, but only because I have the spec on my computer
  2457. # [19:29] <gcp> I have some books in Italian.
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  2459. # [19:29] <gcp> That doesn't mean I know it.
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  2461. # [19:29] <Ms2ger> I have some books in Dutch
  2462. # [19:29] <Ms2ger> Doesn't mean anything either
  2463. # [19:29] * Waldo has quick-launchers for c99, c11, c++98, c++11, es5, es3, e4x (which I could remove any time I wanted now \o/ ), IEEE-754, and maybe another spec or two he's forgotten
  2464. # [19:30] <WeirdAl> I'd say I know enough to know where to look in the manual
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  2466. # [19:30] <jcranmer> I also have C99, IEEE-754, ARM, x86 on my computer
  2467. # [19:30] <bholley> Ms2ger: is nsIDOMNSEvent.SOME_CONSTANT equivalent to Event.SOME_CONSTANT?
  2468. # [19:30] <@ehsan> dzbarsky1: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853554
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  2470. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> bholley, should be, yes
  2471. # [19:30] <jcranmer> the ARM manual was a pain in the butt to find
  2472. # [19:30] <AryehGregor> http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/xpcom/ds/nsFixedSizeAllocator.cpp
  2473. # [19:30] <bholley> Ms2ger: thanks
  2474. # [19:30] <AryehGregor> Why does this file not exist in my checkout?
  2475. # [19:30] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, recently removed
  2476. # [19:30] <jcranmer> I used to have the JLS and the JVM spec located
  2477. # [19:30] <AryehGregor> dxr isn't kept up-to-date? :(
  2478. # [19:31] <mbrubeck> At one point (over a decade ago) I read Stroustrup cover-to-cover and had a brief glimpse of what it would be to "know" C++
  2479. # [19:31] <jcranmer> AryehGregor: blame people for breaking clang builds
  2480. # [19:31] <Ms2ger> bholley, except that Event has some more, IIRC
  2481. # [19:31] <AryehGregor> Ah.
  2482. # [19:31] <bholley> Ms2ger: that's fine. I'm just building the Components.interfaces shims
  2483. # [19:31] <Ms2ger> bholley, ah
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  2485. # [19:31] * jcranmer wants a builder that turns red and causes patch backouts if people break building clang on m-c
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  2488. # [19:32] <AryehGregor> All "new" is infallible, right? So anytime I see "foo = new Anything; NS_ENSURE_STATE(foo)" I can always remove the check?
  2489. # [19:32] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  2490. # [19:32] <AryehGregor> If so, nsNodeInfoManager::GetNodeInfo seems pretty clearly infallible . . .
  2491. # [19:33] <WeirdAl> jcranmer: is clang now tier-1?
  2492. # [19:33] <Waldo> WeirdAl: clang gets used to build on OSX
  2493. # [19:33] <AryehGregor> Oh, wait, can't quite say that yet.
  2494. # [19:33] <WeirdAl> I know that much
  2495. # [19:33] <@khuey> AryehGregor: yes, new is infallible inside Gecko
  2496. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, and no, nsNodeInfoManager::GetNodeInfo isn't
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  2498. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, there's a hashtable thing?
  2499. # [19:33] <AryehGregor> As opposed to outside Gecko?
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  2502. # [19:34] <@khuey> AryehGregor: right
  2503. # [19:34] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, yeah, I just saw that, but why should that be able to fail . . . ?
  2504. # [19:34] <jcranmer> WeirdAl: we keep running tools that use clang on Linux for security testing and the like
  2505. # [19:34] <jcranmer> WeirdAl: if it's not tier-1, it ought to be IMHO
  2506. # [19:34] <@khuey> Ms2ger: ugh it really uses raw PLHash?
  2507. # [19:34] <@khuey> Ms2ger: wtf?
  2508. # [19:34] <WeirdAl> I like clang, actually
  2509. # [19:34] <Ms2ger> khuey, welcome to Gecko :)
  2510. # [19:34] <@khuey> AryehGregor: because it uses a terrible ancient hashtable API
  2511. # [19:34] <AryehGregor> :(
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  2513. # [19:35] <jcranmer> gcp: specifically, C++11 says this
  2514. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> FWIW, I would *love* a patch that made that infallible ;)
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  2516. # [19:35] <@khuey> AryehGregor: that should be fixable, fwiw
  2517. # [19:35] <@khuey> just get rid of PLHashtable
  2518. # [19:35] <@khuey> and use anything else
  2519. # [19:35] <jcranmer> gcp: Except for functions with C++ linkage, a function
  2520. # [19:35] <jcranmer> declaration without a linkage specification shall not precede the first linkage specification for that function.
  2521. # [19:35] <jcranmer> A function can be declared without a linkage specification after an explicit linkage specification has been
  2522. # [19:35] <jcranmer> seen; the linkage explicitly specified in the earlier declaration is not affected by such a function declaration.
  2523. # [19:35] * WeirdAl hasn't yet learned the STD template for hashtables
  2524. # [19:35] <Ms2ger> khuey, js::HashTable? :)
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  2526. # [19:35] <@khuey> Ms2ger: I'd prefer a gecko hashtable
  2527. # [19:36] <Waldo> someone should move that to mfbt at some point, someone with a little time
  2528. # [19:36] <@khuey> but js::Hashtable would be better than PLHashtable, yes
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  2530. # [19:36] <Waldo> I don't think it really depends on anything JS
  2531. # [19:36] <AryehGregor> Would changing the hashtable type have perf implications or other scary stuff?
  2532. # [19:36] * AryehGregor guesses yes
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  2535. # [19:37] <Ms2ger> Waldo, well, we'd need to figure out allocation
  2536. # [19:37] <RyanVM> billm: thanks for investigating that crash!
  2537. # [19:37] <Waldo> Ms2ger: a little bit, yeah
  2538. # [19:37] <billm> RyanVM: yeah. I feel silly I didn't see it before in those hundreds of android crashes.
  2539. # [19:38] <AryehGregor> I can't just make the plhash user here use an infallible allocator?
  2540. # [19:38] <Waldo> Ms2ger: probably the thing to do is have js::HashTable and friends that inherit from mozilla::HashTable and friends with the JS-desired allocator
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  2542. # [19:38] <AryehGregor> Specifically, if allocOps->allocTable and allocOps->allocEntry were infallible, that should remove the only failure paths I see.
  2543. # [19:38] <Waldo> Ms2ger: seeing as we just landed a patch that explicitly mirrors one class in two namespaces like that
  2544. # [19:38] <jcranmer> do we have an mfbt hashtable yet?
  2545. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> Waldo, that could work, I guess
  2546. # [19:39] <@khuey> AryehGregor: well the current setup requires crossing a shared library boundary, so I would be surprised if it got worse if you replaced it with PLDHashtable or one of the xpcom hashtables
  2547. # [19:39] <Waldo> Ms2ger: although, I think the one real hurdle I've heard mentioned before is that js::HashTable inlines everything now; more likely we'd want most stuff not-inlined somehow, then let people opt into hashtable-with-inlines usage
  2548. # [19:39] <Waldo> this may have been a larger issue for js::Vector than for js::HashTable, not sure
  2549. # [19:40] <WeirdAl> Neil mentioned to me the other day that there was some kind of Set<T> class available to XPCOM; anyone know what that is?
  2550. # [19:40] <@khuey> nsTHashtable
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  2552. # [19:41] <AryehGregor> Are PR_MALLOC and PR_NEW infallible?
  2553. # [19:41] <jcranmer> we need an mdn-equivalent of http://llvm.org/docs/ProgrammersManual.html
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  2555. # [19:42] <Optimizer> where to talk about bananabench?
  2556. # [19:42] <AryehGregor> If so, I'm pretty sure there are no actual failure paths here.
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  2558. # [19:43] <mbrubeck> !seen azakai
  2559. # [19:43] <firebot> azakai was last seen 17 hours, 23 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying 'the benchmark suite is guaranteed to be deterministic as well' in #jsapi.
  2560. # [19:43] <mbrubeck> Optimizer: maybe people in #games would know
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  2562. # [19:43] <mbrubeck> or #emscripten
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  2564. # [19:44] <Optimizer> mbrubeck: thanks
  2565. # [19:44] <bholley> Ms2ger: does mach build use pymake on windows?
  2566. # [19:44] <RyanVM> yes
  2567. # [19:45] <mbrubeck> bholley: yes
  2568. # [19:45] <Optimizer> is there any other feasible option ?
  2569. # [19:45] <bholley> mbrubeck: cool
  2570. # [19:45] <mbrubeck> bholley: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/base.py#207
  2571. # [19:46] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, do you know if PR_MALLOC and PR_NEW are infallible?
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  2575. # [19:46] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, probably not guaranteed
  2576. # [19:47] <AryehGregor> :(
  2577. # [19:47] <@khuey> bholley: we killed not-pymake on windoze
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  2579. # [19:49] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, can I just make nsNodeInfoManager use my own versions that use malloc() and new instead, and that will be infallible with no problems?
  2580. # [19:49] <RyanVM> awww mccr8, get tired of the bugspam? :P
  2581. # [19:49] <AryehGregor> Or is there some reason PR_MALLOC and PR_NEW are used instead of malloc() and new()?
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  2583. # [19:49] <AryehGregor> (malloc() is infallible, right?)
  2584. # [19:50] <mccr8> RyanVM: yeah I'm not working on it, so why deal with the mail :)
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  2587. # [19:50] <philor> don't tell tbplbot, but that's what filters are for
  2588. # [19:50] <@bz> AryehGregor: I think the answer is "it depends"....
  2589. # [19:50] <AryehGregor> To which?
  2590. # [19:51] <@bz> actually, maybe not
  2591. # [19:51] <@bz> I guess I was thinking of moz_malloc
  2592. # [19:51] <@bz> malloc should be infallible.
  2593. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> malloc==moz_xmalloc
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  2595. # [19:51] <Mook_as> khuey: was there a specific bug on the death of gnu make on windows? (mostly so I can fill in a URL field in a bug...)
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  2597. # [19:51] <Mook_as> (a not-bmo bug)
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  2603. # [19:54] <qheaden> ctalbert: ping
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  2605. # [19:54] <Ms2ger> Mook_as, deadlocks?
  2606. # [19:54] <ctalbert> qheaden: pong
  2607. # [19:54] <armenzg_buildduty> RyanVM: most win8 jobs should be picked up as the machines reboot
  2608. # [19:54] <RyanVM> thx
  2609. # [19:54] <armenzg_buildduty> I never knew that renaming the builders was going to cause so much trouble
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  2612. # [19:55] <RyanVM> armenzg_buildduty: we'll see what happens first, win8 test results or win debug test results
  2613. # [19:55] <Mook_as> Ms2ger: yeah, I'm not worried about _why_ gnu make was killed, just that it was :)
  2614. # [19:55] <@khuey> Mook_as: 828317
  2615. # [19:55] <Mook_as> thanks
  2616. # [19:55] <qheaden> ctalbert: Hey there. I am planning on applying for GSoC 2013, and I was interested in the project for expanding unit tests for Mozbase. You are the mentor on that right?
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  2620. # [19:55] <@khuey> I'm not sure how much reasoning there is in there, but that's where it happened
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  2622. # [19:56] <ctalbert> qheaden: yeah, I am.
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  2624. # [19:56] <ctalbert> qheaden: welcome, that's great.
  2625. # [19:56] <armenzg__> Ryan: why you say that? are we pending a bunch of WinXP/Win7 debug tests?
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  2629. # [19:56] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, does this look like it would make the hash-table stuff infallible? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634922/
  2630. # [19:56] <AryehGregor> (without ill effects)
  2631. # [19:56] <RyanVM> armenzg_: yes, but not a releng issue
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  2633. # [19:56] <RyanVM> just a bustage issue
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  2636. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> Mook_as, sorry, misread you
  2637. # [19:57] <qheaden> ctalbert: I'm pretty good with Python and Javascript, although I'm not an expert (I'm best with C++). But I really want more experience in those languages anyway.
  2638. # [19:57] <armenzg_buildduty_> k
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  2641. # [19:57] <ctalbert> qheaden: awesome. We'd love you to apply for it.
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  2643. # [19:58] <Mook_as> Ms2ger: no worries, I do that like, all the time :D
  2644. # [19:58] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, not sure if we'd want to that; we'd probably prefer using a Gecko hashtable
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  2648. # [19:58] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, sure, but is this an improvement, at least?
  2649. # [19:58] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, I don't know
  2650. # [19:58] <AryehGregor> It should make GetNodeInfo() infallible, AFAICT.
  2651. # [19:59] <ctalbert> qheaden: the other folks on my team to start talking to are wlach and jhammel, who also work on mozbase and are the module owners. You can find them in the #ateam channel.
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  2654. # [19:59] <AryehGregor> bz, does this look like an acceptable patch to make GetNodeInfo() infallible? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634932/
  2655. # [19:59] <qheaden> ctalbert: Okay.
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  2660. # [20:00] <qheaden> ctalbert: I can't stick around right now, but what is your email if I have more inquiries?
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  2664. # [20:01] <jhammel|bagels> qheaden: we'd love to have you :) while ctalbert is the go-to guy (for everything, really), if you have mozbase specific questions i'd love a CC ( jhammel __at__ mozilla __dot__ org)
  2665. # [20:02] <jhammel|bagels> ...not sure why i bother obfuscating since i already get > 80 spam /day
  2666. # [20:02] <qheaden> lol
  2667. # [20:02] <ctalbert> qheaden: ctalbert@mozilla.com
  2668. # [20:02] <qheaden> Great! Has anyone volunteered for that project yet?
  2669. # [20:02] <ctalbert> we have one other volunteer in the running
  2670. # [20:03] <qheaden> Okay.
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  2672. # [20:03] <jhammel|bagels> the good part about mozbase testing is due to my fervant authoritarianism we've avoided adding much structure, so it's mostly an open field
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  2674. # [20:04] <jhammel|bagels> (and the sad part about that statement is that it is wholly true)
  2675. # [20:04] <qheaden> Heh. Well, an open field has is pros and cons.
  2676. # [20:05] <jhammel|bagels> yeah; pro : the way is open to possibilities; con : the same
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  2688. # [20:09] <qheaden> ctalbert, jhammel : Well, I have to go, but thanks for the help. I'll be discussing the project with you guys.
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  2699. # [20:14] <RyanVM> bholley: similar-looking bustage on the big push retriggers :(
  2700. # [20:14] <RyanVM> bholley: meaning we backed the wrong patch out :(
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  2702. # [20:15] <RyanVM> jmaher: any idea what happened here with the symbols? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=20939511&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  2704. # [20:15] <mjrosenb> I just got distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
  2705. # [20:15] <mjrosenb> I assume I just need to make a symlink?
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  2708. # [20:16] <jmaher> RyanVM: hmm, I saw a link from philor earlier where there were symbols
  2709. # [20:17] <jmaher> RyanVM: oh, this is during a leak test build, I don't believe this is setup to run with symbols
  2710. # [20:17] <RyanVM> ah
  2711. # [20:18] <jmaher> although the symbols should be available on that machine, the automation scripts that reference them are not invoked properly from the command line (i.e. --symbols-path http://...)
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  2713. # [20:18] <RyanVM> bholley: yep, big push has the same issues
  2714. # [20:19] <RyanVM> bholley: backing out the whole mess
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  2716. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a5bbf32adb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 851895) for Windows debug bustage.
  2717. # [20:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de90200c61e1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 55d19e574b86 (bug 853283) for Windows debug bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
  2718. # [20:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b53685d06c8d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 22 changesets (bug 658909) for Windows debug bustage.
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  2721. # [20:24] <mjrosenb> ok, configuring is really not working here, /usr/lib/python2.7 is not the way we are expecting it to be.
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  2723. # [20:25] <jesup> Anyone seen something like this? Updated inbound after ~2weeks (IETF/etc) and now when I build and run (full clobber build): /libxul.so: /lib64/libsmime3.so: version `NSS_3.14.3' not found (required by /home/jesup/src/mozilla/inbound/obj-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-debug/dist/bin/libxul.so) Couldn't load XPCOM. Fedora 17 x64
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  2725. # [20:25] <jcranmer> jesup: stop using --with-system-nss?
  2726. # [20:25] <jesup> I'm not
  2727. # [20:26] <jcranmer> you're clearly loading a system NSS instead of the tree NSS
  2728. # [20:26] <jhammel> mjrosenb: not sure what your problem is exactly; you're on linux?
  2729. # [20:26] <jhammel> maybe you need the python-dev package?
  2730. # [20:26] <jhammel> </guess:blind>
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  2732. # [20:26] <mjrosenb> jhammel: yes, this is with a quantal chroot.
  2733. # [20:26] <mjrosenb> distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/include/python2.7/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory)
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  2736. # [20:27] <jhammel> mjrosenb: i'm guessing that file doesn't exist?
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  2738. # [20:27] <mjrosenb> yup.
  2739. # [20:27] <jhammel> mjrosenb: maybe try installing python-dev
  2740. # [20:27] <jesup> This was a working config this morning, did pull -u, rm -rf objdir, and rebuilt. No longer works. No OS updates either
  2741. # [20:27] <mjrosenb> jhammel: already installed.
  2742. # [20:27] <jhammel> mjrosenb: hmmm....then i don't know
  2743. # [20:27] <tbsaunde> ehsan++
  2744. # [20:27] <@ehsan> ?
  2745. # [20:27] <jhammel> mjrosenb: i have it
  2746. # [20:27] <mjrosenb> jhammel: running quantal?
  2747. # [20:28] <jesup> ehsan needed karma
  2748. # [20:28] <tbsaunde> ehsan: the TArray thing
  2749. # [20:28] <@ehsan> huh, right
  2750. # [20:28] <jhammel> mjrosenb: yep
  2751. # [20:28] <@ehsan> sorry for taking away one of our footguns
  2752. # [20:28] <jesup> tbsaunde: which TArray thing?
  2753. # [20:28] <mjrosenb> jhammel: https://gist.github.com/5215976
  2754. # [20:28] <@ehsan> but don't fear, we still have many more ;)
  2755. # [20:28] <jesup> I'm all for less footguns!
  2756. # [20:28] <jhammel> i forget the magic thing to show the package that contains a file
  2757. # [20:28] <@ehsan> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853548
  2758. # [20:28] <tbsaunde> jesup: infalible TArray's don't return allocation failure bools
  2759. # [20:29] <RyanVM> bholley: oh, this gets better - there's green tests above your push
  2760. # [20:29] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I've been meaning to give AppendElement a similar treatment
  2761. # [20:29] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: *only* for SetCapacity for now
  2762. # [20:29] <RyanVM> bholley: so I'm thinking needs-clobber now
  2763. # [20:29] <@ehsan> yeah you can use the same C++ black magic I have in there
  2764. # [20:30] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I now, but you did the template magic for me
  2765. # [20:30] <tbsaunde> which is the part I was avoiding
  2766. # [20:30] <@ehsan> yeah
  2767. # [20:30] <@ehsan> the rest should be easy
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  2769. # [20:31] <nmatsakis> decoder: ping
  2770. # [20:31] <mjrosenb> jhammel: dpkg -S (iirc)
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  2772. # [20:33] <mjrosenb> python2.7-minimal: /usr/include/python2.7/pyconfig.h
  2773. # [20:33] <mjrosenb> ah-hah.
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  2775. # [20:34] <@ehsan> padenot: ping
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  2778. # [20:34] <jhammel> mjrosenb: lordy lou...glad you found it
  2779. # [20:34] <jhammel> i was actually wondering if it was a generated file
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  2781. # [20:35] <mjrosenb> jhammel: unfortunately, in the chroot, I have: https://gist.github.com/5216031
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  2783. # [20:35] <mwu> RyanVM: have you seen bug 852821 recently?
  2784. # [20:36] <decoder> nmatsakis: pong
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  2787. # [20:36] <mjrosenb> jhammel: ahh: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/python2.7/pyconfig.h
  2788. # [20:36] <mjrosenb> \"$Y#$%C*YD<>P
  2789. # [20:37] <jhammel> :/
  2790. # [20:37] <Optimizer> if I have an iframe laoded inside a deck which is itself loaded inside an iframe loaded inside a notification box, how to get reference to the browser related to the the first iframe in my sentence ?
  2791. # [20:37] <jhammel> chroot....is tricky
  2792. # [20:37] <mjrosenb> jhammel: chroot isn't the problem, multiarch is the problem.
  2793. # [20:37] <jhammel> well, i suppose chroot is easy; getting a chrooted environment to work is not
  2794. # [20:37] <abr> I had a few spare cycles last week to work on something that various Mozilla developers might be interested in -- a little dohickey that sits in your firefox statusbar and shows you the status of the various mozilla trees (open/closed). It's still a little rough on the configuration front, but works well enough for daily usage. Feedback encouraged: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/treestat/
  2795. # [20:37] <jhammel> ah
  2796. # [20:37] <nmatsakis> decoder: regarding the fuzzer bug 853545... it seems to have stopped reproducing between the original reported rev and today...
  2797. # [20:37] <decoder> nmatsakis: yea, it's unlikely to be fixed though
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  2799. # [20:37] <nmatsakis> decoder: ...I'm going to try and bisect, but I was wondering if there were other fuzzer bugs related to ICs?
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  2801. # [20:37] <decoder> the original rev is less than 24 hours old
  2802. # [20:37] <nmatsakis> that came to your mind?
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  2804. # [20:37] <nmatsakis> yes, I agree
  2805. # [20:38] <@bz> mmm, tree is closed
  2806. # [20:38] <decoder> nmatsakis: nope, no other bugs. im pretty sure this is parallel array related
  2807. # [20:38] <@bz> how odd. ;)
  2808. # [20:38] <nmatsakis> decoder: ok, I'll keep digging.
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  2810. # [20:38] * mjrosenb would like to have a word with the person that has been hardcoding paths into the build system :(
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  2812. # [20:39] <jhammel> mjrosenb: there *may* be more than one, unless you mean this issue specifically
  2813. # [20:39] <decoder> nmatsakis: jsbugmon is already bisecting the "fix" revision, too
  2814. # [20:39] <decoder> just takes a while
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  2817. # [20:39] <nmatsakis> decoder: ok, at the moment I'm just working from the original broken rev
  2818. # [20:40] <jhammel> mjrosenb: just out of curiousity, what does python-config --includes say
  2819. # [20:40] <Optimizer> I don't have much time guys... my hamster died ;P
  2820. # [20:40] <jhammel> Optimizer: my god man what are you doing on IRC then?!?
  2821. # [20:40] <Optimizer> it was his last wish
  2822. # [20:41] <decoder> nmatsakis: yea that makes sense
  2823. # [20:41] <jhammel> poor...um, guy...
  2824. # [20:41] <jld> Low-level people: where, in the chain of NS_StackWalk / TableTicker / the B2G profile-symbolicate script, should I be subtracting either 1 or 2 from the saved PC so it's in the right place for debug info?
  2825. # [20:41] <mjrosenb> jhammel: bash: python-config: command not found
  2826. # [20:41] <Optimizer> to get the browser of an iframe loaded in a deck loaded in an iframe laoded in a notification box
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  2828. # [20:41] <jld> And is there a better place to ask about stuff like that?
  2829. # [20:41] <jhammel> mjrosenb: interesting :(
  2830. # [20:41] <nmatsakis> decoder: though interestingly I can't build a debug build of that rev on OS/X (surprising linkage errors).
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  2832. # [20:41] <nmatsakis> oh, wait, maybe I didn't make clean enough.
  2833. # [20:42] <RyanVM> mwu: no, but keep in mind that we have b2g tests hidden now
  2834. # [20:42] <RyanVM> and I'm personally not looking at them anymore
  2835. # [20:42] <jld> I was just going to hack this up in profile-symbolicate, but I need to *not* subtract for the actual trap PC. I think.
  2836. # [20:42] <jhammel> mjrosenb: likely for the same reason, blindly guessing
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  2838. # [20:43] <mwu> RyanVM: hmm, how do I unhide? couldn't find it on tbpl
  2839. # [20:43] <jld> Although if there are nested signal handlers in there then I have no idea. Sigh.
  2840. # [20:44] <RyanVM> mwu: &showall=1
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  2842. # [20:44] <mwu> thanks
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  2851. # [20:50] <mjrosenb> hey all, does anyone know about cross compiling firefox and pkg-config?
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  2853. # [20:50] <mwu> RyanVM: hmm it seems too intermittent to really tell if things have gotten better, though it did fail on the same test once since that one fix
  2854. # [20:51] <RyanVM> mwu: welcome to the fun world of b2g testing :\
  2855. # [20:51] <mwu> well, I'll land my other fix for that and we'll see if things get any better
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  2863. # [20:56] <@ehsan> RyanVM: ok, is the tree closed or open?
  2864. # [20:56] <@ehsan> can I just land my patches with a CLOSED TREE thing in the commit message?
  2865. # [20:56] <RyanVM> ehsan: i'll reopen
  2866. # [20:56] <RyanVM> i think we're good now
  2867. # [20:57] <jimb> Is there any hg command that will tell you the current tip revision of a remote repo?
  2868. # [20:57] <@ehsan> ok cool
  2869. # [20:57] <@ehsan> thanks
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  2871. # [20:57] <jimb> This is driving me crazy
  2872. # [20:57] <@ehsan> gimme a sec
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  2874. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a81edb20e82 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 852789 - clear the runtime's self-hosting global on destruction of last context. r=sstangl
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  2876. # [20:59] <@ehsan> jimb: hmm, no doesn't seem to be possible
  2877. # [20:59] <@ehsan> sorry
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  2880. # [21:00] <jimb> ehsan: That's really too bad... Every time I do a pull, it has to know the answer. :(
  2881. # [21:00] <jimb> ehsan: Thanks for looking, though!
  2882. # [21:01] <@ehsan> jimb: it knows the asnwer
  2883. # [21:01] <@ehsan> I just don't think it exposes that information as a command
  2884. # [21:02] <nrc> jimm: ping
  2885. # [21:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa5fce9ac1e3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 853569 - Fix nsTArray::SetCapacity callers in nsXULContentSink to not look at the return value; r=bzbarsky
  2886. # [21:03] <jimm> nrc: pong
  2887. # [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d25e0d89cc5b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 853572 - Fix nsTArray::SetCapacity callers in nsXULElement to not look at the return value; r=bzbarsky
  2888. # [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eda31d5153fd - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 853556 - Make nsRootedJSValueArray::SetCapacity return void; r=bzbarsky
  2889. # [21:03] <mbrubeck> jimb: When you do a pull, it changes your "tip" to the the tip of the repo you just pulled.
  2890. # [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89f1f298226e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 853567 - Fix nsTArray::SetCapacity callers in nsContentIterator to not look at the return value; r=bzbarsky
  2891. # [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b06530d4fb32 - Paul Adenot - Bug 853076 - Initialized the chunk to be empty before getting audio frames. r=ehsan
  2892. # [21:03] <mbrubeck> But that means it also loses any knowledge it might have had about the tips of other remote repos.
  2893. # [21:03] <mbrubeck> :(
  2894. # [21:03] <nrc> jimm: have you talked to Milan or Bas about the schedule for landing the layers refactoring?
  2895. # [21:04] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: yeah it doesn't write that down anywhere
  2896. # [21:04] * mbrubeck would love to have git-style remote tracking branches in hg
  2897. # [21:04] <@ehsan> so it has no way to remember
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  2900. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb5a80119674 - Norbert Lindenberg - Bug 814795 - Replace remaining use of V8 macro. r=tschneidereit
  2901. # [21:05] <jimm> nrc: yes, although it was a while ago, things may have changed. ask milan or MarcoM
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  2903. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af59a6b444f0 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 828990 - Hide thumb on compositionend. r=margaret f=jchen
  2904. # [21:06] <jimm> nrc: the original plan was mid march
  2905. # [21:06] <nrc> jimm: we are getting close to landing and thinking about whether we will try for this train or the next
  2906. # [21:06] <sfink> jimb: how about >>hg incoming -n -l 1 || hg log -l 1<<?
  2907. # [21:06] <nrc> jimm: yeah, we slipped a little, and are now pretty close to the uplift day
  2908. # [21:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4504520f7f24 - Joshua Cranmer - Followup for bug 648980 - mktemp doesn't exist on Windows. r=glandium
  2909. # [21:07] <sfink> jimb: actually, hg incoming wouldn't fail if there's nothing, so that || part is wrong
  2910. # [21:07] <nrc> jimm: we would only try and get it in now if you need us to, basically
  2911. # [21:07] <jimm> nrc: ok I see, didn't realize you were working on it...
  2912. # [21:07] <jimm> nrc: hmm
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  2914. # [21:08] <jimm> nrc: so, I don't think we need it on mc *right now* we can work on the graphics branch to do active dev.
  2915. # [21:09] <jimm> nrc: when are you thinking it'll land currently?
  2916. # [21:09] <nrc> jimm: I think it is more that if you want to release off this version of gecko, because no one in their right mind would uplift this to Aurora
  2917. # [21:09] <nrc> jimm: depending on a few last bugs and reviews, we could either squeeze it in just before the uplift, or wait and land just after
  2918. # [21:09] <jimm> nrc: oh, yeah don't worry, we won't be riding any trains out this spring either. probably by the summer.
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  2920. # [21:10] <nrc> jimm: ok, cool, in which case we will leave the landing until the next train
  2921. # [21:10] <@khuey|lunch> wow
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  2924. # [21:10] <jimm> sounds good, I'll let marco know
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  2926. # [21:10] <@khuey> does nsAutoPtr<foo> = new foo(); really not work on gcc?
  2927. # [21:10] <bholley> RyanVM|brb: oh, hm
  2928. # [21:10] <nrc> jimm: thanks!
  2929. # [21:10] <bholley> RyanVM|brb: so it's all relanded?
  2930. # [21:10] <jimm> nrc: thanks for keeping us informaed :)
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  2933. # [21:11] <jimm> *informed even
  2934. # [21:11] <nrc> jimm: np
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  2936. # [21:11] <tbsaunde> khuey: does that work anywhere?
  2937. # [21:12] <tbsaunde> khuey: I thought we explicitly don't have operator= taking rawptrs on nsAutoPtr to keep people from doing autoptr1 = autoptr2
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  2939. # [21:13] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: do the operator= MOZ_DELETE, that would fix it
  2940. # [21:13] <RyanVM|brb> bholley: yes
  2941. # [21:13] <RyanVM|brb> bholley: i'll mark the bugs, just been tied up
  2942. # [21:13] <bholley> RyanVM|brb: awesome!
  2943. # [21:13] <bholley> RyanVM|brb: I'll kill that VM windows build that I've been doing :-)
  2944. # [21:13] <RyanVM|brb> bholley: gotta love when subsequent runs are green
  2945. # [21:13] <RyanVM|brb> <3 our build system
  2946. # [21:14] <bholley> RyanVM|brb: so something in my pushed needed a clobber? I wonder what
  2947. # [21:14] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: wfm
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  2951. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dee55e5465e5 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 853111 - Kill -Wnarrowing warnings for zipped selfhosted sources. (r=till)
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  2953. # [21:15] <@khuey> tbsaunde: we have it for autoptr to autoptr, last I checked
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  2955. # [21:15] <{V}> glandium, regarding bug 648980 , isn't _mktemp() (note underscore) available?
  2956. # [21:16] <{V}> err nevermind
  2957. # [21:16] <{V}> command mktemp, not function
  2958. # [21:17] <jcranmer> {V}: it's the bash command
  2959. # [21:17] <jcranmer> well, program
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  2962. # [21:18] <{V}> yes just figured that out. silly me
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  2965. # [21:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c12a7b9d6ab6 - Steven Michaud - Bug 833936 - Mochitest that queries NPNVcontentsScaleFactor. r=bsmedberg
  2966. # [21:21] <rintoul> Hello. Quick question about launching an executable when a link is clicked on in an email in Thunderbird...
  2967. # [21:22] <rintoul> Is there any way to specify a particular profile for Firefox to use (with the "-P" argument)?
  2968. # [21:22] <rintoul> I'm aware of network.protocol-handler.app.http, but have not had luck with my attempts...
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  2970. # [21:23] <rintoul> I tried just jamming c:\Program Files\Mozilla\firefox -P thing123 into that pref with no success.
  2971. # [21:23] <rintoul> Thanks for any help.
  2972. # [21:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6609ab08172e - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 853111 followup - Fix formatting of embedjs.py. r=me
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  2978. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/440ee0b03c9d - Brian Nicholson - Bug 850693 - Create a NotificationHandler for each Fennec instance. r=kats
  2979. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d6a51ac10751 - Tim Taubert - Bug 790882 - [New Tab Page] Speculatively open connections for sites when hovering them; r=jaws
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  2984. # [21:32] <dholbert> Do the various do_QueryXYZ methods have fast-path null-checks?
  2985. # [21:33] <dholbert> In particular, if I have "[type] foo = do_QueryWrappedNative(bar); return foo;", is it worth having an explicit null-check for "bar", to avoid the do_QueryWrappedNative call in that case?
  2986. # [21:33] <dholbert> (I suspect it's not worth it)
  2987. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> do_QueryWrappedNative may not be null-safe
  2988. # [21:33] <Ms2ger> There's one of these, at least
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  2991. # [21:35] <dholbert> oh, interesting
  2992. # [21:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c049e8fe62e9 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 852803. nsHTMLCanvasFrame::Init should call its superclass' init, not some random ancestor class. r=tn
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  2995. # [21:35] <@bz> do_QueryWrappedNative has both safe and unsafe versions
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  2998. # [21:35] <@bz> in different files
  2999. # [21:35] <dholbert> ok
  3000. # [21:35] <@bz> er, or maybe not
  3001. # [21:36] <@bz> It's just not null-safe
  3002. # [21:36] <jcranmer> !seen bsmedberg
  3003. # [21:36] <firebot> bsmedberg was last seen 3 hours, 8 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying 'I tried both using the proxy and not using it.' in #breakpad.
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  3005. # [21:36] <dholbert> ok
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  3007. # [21:37] <jaws> ttaubert: i think there are other speculative connection bugs that are in the mix too, right?
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  3017. # [21:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc4fd344ac41 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
  3018. # [21:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6a51ac10751 - Tim Taubert - Bug 790882 - [New Tab Page] Speculatively open connections for sites when hovering them; r=jaws
  3019. # [21:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e9badd3cf39 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge inbound to m-c.
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  3023. # [21:47] <RyanVM> quiet enough for you? :)
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  3038. # [21:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b1ba9a45b82 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 851170 - Put homescreen wallpaper feature behind confvars variable. r=ted
  3039. # [21:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/389667c99555 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 853022 - Remove "Ideas" from feedback app. r=mfinkle
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  3041. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c24f1f46721 - Raymond Lee - Bug 834543 - Part 2: Update use of setCharsetForURI. r=mak
  3042. # [21:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13ab0d3009cf - Raymond Lee - Bug 834543 - Part 1: Async helpers and unit tests. r=mak
  3043. # [21:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5deb8171b04 - Raymond Lee - Bug 834543 - Part 3: Update use of getCharsetForURI. r=mak
  3044. # [21:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3f79c7dc180 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 852912 - Don't crash on NULL with AutoArrayRooter (r=bhackett)
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  3052. # [22:02] <@bz> Can I get per-platform orangefactor info?
  3053. # [22:02] <@bz> http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/?display=OrangeFactor&plat=windows&test=All&type=All&startday=2013-03-14&endday=2013-03-21&tree=trunk claims "0"
  3054. # [22:02] <@bz> which is unlikely
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  3059. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> RyanVM?
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  3061. # [22:04] <@bz> huh
  3062. # [22:04] <@bz> linux64 shows some
  3063. # [22:04] <@bz> but linux does not?
  3064. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> Linux32 doesn't do mochitests anymore
  3065. # [22:04] <@bz> hmm
  3066. # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5408bf5cf363 - Reuben Morais - Bug 821630 - Fix retrieving blobs with get() in Settings API. r=gwagner
  3067. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> Or is that just fedora?
  3068. # [22:04] * Ms2ger doesn't follow closely
  3069. # [22:05] <@bz> "android" shows 0?
  3070. # [22:05] <Waldo> RyanVM: you wanted "discreet" in that one bug, just to note :-)
  3071. # [22:06] <RyanVM> Waldo: wouldn't you know it, I even changed it from that to the other
  3072. # [22:06] <@bz> ryanvm, philor: do we have data on per-platform orangefactor bits?
  3073. # [22:06] <RyanVM> heh
  3074. # [22:06] <Waldo> RyanVM: discrete would be if you hadn't done what you did ;-)
  3075. # [22:06] <RyanVM> shhh :P
  3076. # [22:07] <@bz> Of the platforms on that page I can only get a nonzero number for "linux 64" so far
  3077. # [22:07] <mcote> bz: huh I think something broke
  3078. # [22:07] <@bz> mcote: apparently!
  3079. # [22:07] <mcote> bz: it *should* display per-platform stats
  3080. # [22:07] <mcote> I shall file a bug and cc you
  3081. # [22:07] <@bz> mcote: please
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  3083. # [22:07] <@bz> mcote: is there any other way I can get this data?
  3084. # [22:08] <mcote> hummmm directly querying the ES db.....
  3085. # [22:08] <mcote> maybe edmorley or jgriffin would know
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  3093. # [22:13] <johns> So pandora just loaded and started playing audio without flash
  3094. # [22:13] <jhammel> nice
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  3096. # [22:13] <jhammel> maybe if it uses persona someday i'll actaully use it
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  3101. # [22:15] <mcote> bz: ah, the way platform types are recorded changed
  3102. # [22:15] <mcote> bz: hopefully I can get this sorted out tomorrow
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  3106. # [22:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/197b63bd6307 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 784848 - Do Windows l10n repacks on win64. r=gps, rs=Callek
  3107. # [22:16] <Callek> RyanVM: thanks!
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  3109. # [22:17] <RyanVM> yessir
  3110. # [22:17] <mcsmurf> the patch applied fine?
  3111. # [22:17] <We11ington> Is there a way to disable those extremely obnoxious popups on failed NS assertions in Windows nightly builds?
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  3113. # [22:17] <mcsmurf> @RyanVM
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  3116. # [22:17] <mcsmurf> the patch from Callek that is
  3117. # [22:17] <RyanVM> mcsmurf: no issues
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  3120. # [22:18] <mcsmurf> heh, nice
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  3122. # [22:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5477c7a2231a - David Keeler - bug 832481 - require doorhanger to activate vulnerable click-to-play plugins r=jaws
  3123. # [22:20] <NeilAway> We11ington: XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK=warn
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  3125. # [22:21] <We11ington> NeilAway: in .mozconfig?
  3126. # [22:21] <@smaug> cpearce: thanks!
  3127. # [22:21] <NeilAway> We11ington: in your environment
  3128. # [22:21] <Waldo> ^ every time you use that, rather than get the underlying issue filed and fixed, God kills a kitten
  3129. # [22:21] <We11ington> Ah, gotcha
  3130. # [22:21] <We11ington> Thanks :)
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  3132. # [22:21] <NeilAway> We11ington: indeed, and the developers just switch to crashing the browser entirely instead
  3133. # [22:21] <Ms2ger> Waldo, pff, NS_ASSERTIONS don't matter
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  3136. # [22:22] <Waldo> Ms2ger: ah, right, forgot that
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  3145. # [22:28] <@smaug> dolske: ping
  3146. # [22:29] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: they matter for tests and fuzzing
  3147. # [22:29] <tbsaunde> and they allow people to debug them if they want
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  3150. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, that isn't a discussion I want to have tonight, sorry :)
  3151. # [22:30] <tbsaunde> fair enough :)
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  3154. # [22:30] <Waldo> RyanVM: you don't see a reason for the 837957 dep with 852912, do you? I'm not seeing any connection, suspect it was an errant mis-tag
  3155. # [22:31] <RyanVM> Waldo: yes AFAICT
  3156. # [22:32] <Waldo> sounds good, I'll remove it sometime then
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  3159. # [22:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d475649f83d - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 842716: Include UA version number in SDP o= line
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  3194. # [22:47] <Ms2ger> Is (~a & b) == (a ^ b)?
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  3202. # [22:49] <abr> Ms2ger: no. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=~a+%26+b vs http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=a+xor+b
  3203. # [22:50] <abr> You differ where a=1 and b=0
  3204. # [22:50] <mwu> a=1, b=0
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  3206. # [22:50] <Ms2ger> Good
  3207. # [22:51] <@khuey> whose patch does Ms2ger get to r-
  3208. # [22:51] <Ms2ger> Yours!
  3209. # [22:51] <@khuey> nope!
  3210. # [22:51] <Ms2ger> Well, more likely, baku's
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  3214. # [22:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5beec2eab11b - Panos Astithas - Bug 775924 - Intermittent test_dbgsocket.js; r=me
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  3226. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0448fd67f91 - Olli Pettay - Bug 852923, r=bz
  3227. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3c440715a9b2 - Olli Pettay - Bug 852923, r=bz, a=lsblakk
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  3236. # [23:08] <philor> oh, nice, that Windows build failed by crashing basename.exe
  3237. # [23:09] * philor adds that to the list of every-single-thing which has crashed at least once during a build
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  3241. # [23:10] <Ms2ger> johns, do you know which bug number bsmedberg wanted to use in bug 851378 comment 19?
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  3243. # [23:11] <Waldo> froydnj: hmm, I hope that patch doesn't duplicate half-baked work I have locally too much :-\
  3244. # [23:12] * Waldo has a pile of type traits stuff in his local tree that he did for fun recently
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  3246. # [23:12] <Waldo> no, that looks simpler than what I had, you're probably good :-)
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  3249. # [23:13] <Waldo> or you just hard-coded harder than I did
  3250. # [23:13] <jgilbert> !seen scottstorey
  3251. # [23:13] <firebot> I've never seen a 'scottstorey', sorry.
  3252. # [23:14] <Ms2ger> Does https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a7585b464eae even work in C?
  3253. # [23:14] <froydnj> copy-pasted harder, probably
  3254. # [23:15] <tbsaunde> froydnj: what type traits stuff are you adding?
  3255. # [23:15] <froydnj> tbsaunde: IsIntegral, bug 853646
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  3262. # [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf4dc429c4fa - Tom Schuster - Bug 828462 - Root Proxy/Wrapper defineProperty. r=terrence
  3263. # [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89a3c21daea6 - Tom Schuster - Bug 828462 - Root Proxy/Wrapper rests in js/src. r=terrence
  3264. # [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53a76b390b8c - Tom Schuster - Bug 828462 - Root Proxy/Wrapper getOwnPropertyNames and keys. r=terrence
  3265. # [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29fc22298dc4 - Tom Schuster - Bug 736324 - Test. r=sicking
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  3267. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d6bf23b38e7 - Tom Schuster - Bug 828462 - Root Proxy/Wrapper delete. r=terrence
  3268. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/207ff8c91b7d - Tom Schuster - Bug 828462 - Root Proxy/Wrapper get(Own)PropertyDescriptor. r=terrence
  3269. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ce9677df96d - Tom Schuster - Bug 736324 - Give blob urls content-disposition filename based on the file. r=sicking
  3270. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0596c6e4c260 - Tom Schuster - Bug 828462 - Root Proxy/Wrapper in the browser. r=terrence,bz
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  3280. # [23:27] <froydnj> mmm...hg.mozilla.org 500s?
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  3286. # [23:31] <dholbert> froydnj, sounds like yesterday
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  3291. # [23:32] <froydnj> dholbert: seems to resolve after a couple refreshes
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  3293. # [23:35] <dholbert> froydnj, sounds like yesterday too
  3294. # [23:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb82ad6cfd67 - Frank Yan - Bug 851953 - Update Google search engine icon. r=dolske ui-r=shorlander
  3295. # [23:36] <dholbert> froydnj, sounds like impending builder reds from sporadic hg clone issues :-/
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  3297. # [23:36] <dholbert> but we'll see I guess
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  3308. # [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e658b893b5e - Terrence Cole - Bug 841059 - Do not use the ArenaHeader for zone/compartment on JSObject; r=billm
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  3315. # [23:46] <philor> builder blues since they retry nicely and tester reds since they don't is most likely
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  3318. # [23:47] <mbrubeck> Fortunately my test jobs (on Try) are still pending, like they have been for hours.
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  3320. # [23:48] <philor> that keeps them safe from almost everything
  3321. # [23:48] <philor> unless, say, there were to be db troubles, like on Monday
  3322. # [23:49] <philor> you wouldn't want something like that to happen, would you?
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  3328. # [23:51] <dholbert> philor, oh, good point @ blues
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  3339. # [23:55] <WeirdAl> aww, for a moment I thought IsIntegral meant we were doing calculus ;)
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  3346. # [23:59] <fryn> joe: ping!
  3347. # [23:59] <joe> fryn: hi
  3348. # [23:59] <avih> philor: are you aware of some tbpl 500 server errors?
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  3350. # [23:59] <fryn> joe: hi! an odd bug came up: bug 852754. do you know what might be the cause, or, if not, who i could ask?
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