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5. # [00:03] <@dolske> ermahgerd. 419588.
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12. # [00:12] <fryn> dolske: where in the front-end code should we add the #moz-resolution=16/32 suffixes ?
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14. # [00:13] <@dolske> dunno, I haven't actually looked at that stuff in any detail.
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83. # [02:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/392c55ce512d - Alexander Surkov - Bug 853340 - getTextAtOffset for word boundaries: beginning of a new life, r=tbsaunde
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90. # [02:11] <philor> you know, horrible as the intermittent failure rate is, I bet the desktop, non-infra, --disable-webrtc failure rate is just over 1
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104. # [02:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf4cd763bc4c - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 844954 - Add LoadLibrary RAII helper and System32 LoadLirary helper for use anywhere. r=jimm
105. # [02:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ed97a9289b6 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 844954 - Add support for DX9.3 feature level for Metro and cleanup CreateDevice code. r=bas
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118. # [03:10] <joe> screw you, heisenbugs
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136. # [03:31] <joe> oh my god
137. # [03:32] <joe> now this is an evil bug
138. # [03:32] <joe> bool mDecoded:1;
139. # [03:32] <joe> bool mHasBeenDecoded:1;
140. # [03:32] <joe> bool mInDecoder:1;
141. # [03:32] <joe> if you update one of those bits on another thread, ***your new values might be wiped out***
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143. # [03:32] <jcranmer> joe: they're the same word, and updates aren't atomic
144. # [03:33] <joe> oh yes
145. # [03:33] <joe> as soon as I saw the definition I figured it out
146. # [03:33] <joe> but I just kept looking at this code
147. # [03:33] <@dolske> ah, but that's easy to miss if you're just looking at the calling code.
148. # [03:33] <joe> "the VERY FIRST THING I DO is set this boolean"
149. # [03:33] <joe> HOW COULD IT BE FALSE
150. # [03:33] <@dolske> trollpacked
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157. # [03:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4d7684259549 - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 767563 - Add a clang static checker, part 3: Move the MOZ_MUST_OVERRIDE macro to MFBT. r=Waldo
158. # [03:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9dfc8698edd0 - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 767563 - Add a clang static checker, part 2: Implement the MOZ_MUST_OVERRIDE attribute. r=ehsan
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160. # [03:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf75954e488f - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 767563 - Add a clang static checker, part 1: add the plugin shell. r=glandium
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164. # [03:58] <philor> really, it's a wonder anyone pushes to try with anything other than -p all -u all -t all
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166. # [03:59] <jcranmer> well, -t none is useful
167. # [03:59] <philor> 3 platforms you can't get with trychooser, 1 on trychooser you can't get; at least 5 unittests you can't get with trychooser, plus almost all the platform hints are lies; the list of talos jobs has probably never been accurate for more than 10 days
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169. # [03:59] <jcranmer> since we know no one really pays attention to talos anyways
170. # [03:59] <philor> yeah, -t none is good, right up until you have a patch which burns talos but nothing else
171. # [04:00] <philor> which has happened maybe twenty times I can remember
172. # [04:00] <philor> probably 19 of them jsengine patches, so most people can get away without it :)
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174. # [04:02] <philor> gah, and there's the marionette test that has an end-of-year timebomb, failing with the same opaque output as its end-of-year failure
175. # [04:03] <philor> we're not coming up on the daylight savings time changeover if you live several years in the past, are we?
176. # [04:03] <philor> and b2g doesn't get datetime from an unpatched copy of WinXP, does it?
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205. # [04:32] <philor> odd. marionette's is() actually takes a, b, name, passString, failString, it's documented on MDN as taking a, b, message, and it's actually used as though it's do_check_eq(a, b)
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221. # [04:52] <joe> aaaggghh b2g 20:37:37 INFO - mozcrash WARNING | MINIDUMP_STACKWALK not set, can't process dump.
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224. # [04:53] <joe> philor: 20:32:49 WARNING - TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | http://10.0.2.2:8888/tests/layout/reftests/bugs/458487-2.html | application timed out after 330 seconds with no output
225. # [04:53] <joe> that sort of thing usual?
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227. # [04:54] <joe> philor: oh, probably, considering they're entirely hidden on mozilla-inbound
228. # [04:54] <joe> carry on
229. # [04:54] <philor> joe: depends on the platform - on b2g, it's the reason their tests are hidden; on WinXP, it wouldn't shock me much; on Mac, especially 10.6, I'd look at whether the slave was busted
230. # [04:55] <joe> so basically, testing, what is it good for? absolutely nothing
231. # [04:55] <philor> well, we did break a b2g reftest, successfully noticed we broke it, and fixed it, since The Great Hiding
232. # [04:55] <joe> wow
233. # [04:56] <Callek> testing is good for a lot of things
234. # [04:56] <Callek> imho 'we' do a bad job at ensuring the tests are as accurate as the code they test though, and thus the "random" oranges
235. # [04:56] <joe> our tests are way buggier than our code, it's true
236. # [04:56] <joe> and that's saying something
237. # [04:56] <philor> if you're actually affecting layout, not a terrible idea to retrigger all the reftests that failed the first time, failure rate's around 25% per push so five more each should get you green
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239. # [04:58] <joe> yeah, i am really definitely actually affecting layout
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244. # [05:00] <philor> hmm, I wanted to say something about test accuracy and precision in an era where tests are increasingly not written by the person who wrote and understood the code, but I can't think straight while my late mother's ghost is screaming "if you can't say something nicer than that, STFU!" in my ear
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291. # [06:00] <philor> oh, how odd, it's actually more like is(a, b, "a should equal b", "TEST-PASS", "TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL")
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293. # [06:01] <philor> have to admit I've never felt the per-check need to customize the TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL string
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301. # [06:04] <luisbg> http://litmus.mozilla.org/
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303. # [06:04] <luisbg> is the website down or does it not exist anymore?
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305. # [06:07] <philor> didn't moztrap replace litmus?
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317. # [06:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e4b22851976 - Joe Drew - Bug 716140 - Control multithreaded encoding with a pref. r=seth
318. # [06:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/275cd395f9fa - Joe Drew - Bug 716140 - Implement multithreaded decoding using a thread pool. r=seth
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357. # [07:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25a9caf9ea10 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 854108 - Use FallibleTArray in SVG code some more; r=longsonr
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389. # [09:12] <avih> where do i file mach bugs? i think something has changed recently. i'm getting the following error: "Exception: Binary expected at obj-i686-pc-mingw32\dist\firefox.exe does not exist." but it's incorrect, as it's missing the 'bin' dir just after 'dist'...
390. # [09:13] <avih> (and firefox.exe does exist at the bin dir)
391. # [09:13] <KWierso|Home> avih: looks like Core:: Mach
392. # [09:13] <avih> for reference, that's where the error comes from:
393. # [09:13] <avih> File "e:\dev\moz\src\central\python/mozbuild/mozbuild/mach_commands.py", line 131, in build
394. # [09:13] <avih> app_path = self.get_binary_path('app')
395. # [09:13] <avih> File "e:\dev\moz\src\central\python/mozbuild\mozbuild\base.py", line 157, in get_binary_path
396. # [09:13] <avih> raise Exception('Binary expected at %s does not exist.' % path)
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398. # [09:14] <avih> KWierso|Home: thx
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400. # [09:16] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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402. # [09:20] <Callek> KWierso|Home: woa theres a Core:: Mach? I would have told him Core::Build Config
403. # [09:20] <KWierso|Home> Callek: unless the product/component search box thingy lied to me :\
404. # [09:21] <Callek> heh it probably didn't
405. # [09:21] <Callek> I just didn't know of it
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407. # [09:24] <avih> if anyone's interested in the mach build error message, i've filed bug 854171
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432. # [10:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74847b983bc8 - Simon Montagu - Don't rerun the downward propagation algorithm from ResetNodeDirection after an element has had dir=auto removed. Bug 849727, r=ehsan
433. # [10:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/426bf346fe1d - Simon Montagu - Set AncestorHasDirAuto on the descendants of a <bdi> having its dir attribute removed or set to an invalid value. Bug 849732, r=ehsan
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463. # [11:30] <darkowlzz> anyone getting abort: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error on hg pull to mozilla-central?
464. # [11:32] <darkowlzz> it's fine now :)
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470. # [11:55] <@smaug> mhammond must be implementing something interesting https://people.mozilla.com/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html
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495. # [12:38] <darkowlzz> dolske, ping!
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505. # [13:12] <Cork> pgo builds crash for me with "ImportError: No module named mozcrash" any hints on how to handle that?
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510. # [13:34] <avih> smaug: heh, you recall those "winners don't use drugs" at the 8-bit arcades? :)
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516. # [13:49] <@smaug> I actually don't remember
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524. # [14:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8f1fd136c04 - Olli Pettay - Bug 737100 - Extend Pointer Lock (Mouse Lock) for non-fullscreen elements, use capture phase for event listener, and add listener to browser
525. # [14:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c656d41192f6 - Olli Pettay - Bug 737100 - Extend Pointer Lock (Mouse Lock) for non-fullscreen elements, p=smaug,dolske, r=cpearce,dolske,smaug
526. # [14:18] <@smaug> vlad: sorry that ^ took so long
527. # [14:18] <@smaug> permission handling is way more complicated than it should be
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531. # [14:23] <marxin> Hello, I compiled firefox from source code having libxul.so of about 800MB, comparing to my system firefox instalation which is about 34MB, is really big?
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536. # [14:30] <@smaug> marxin: did you perhaps compile a debug version or does your libxul have all the symbols and the system ff doesn't?
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538. # [14:33] <marxin> smaug: there's my .mozconfig: http://pastebin.com/92yL3nRg, I hope debug info in not included by default?
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540. # [14:35] <tbsaunde> marxin: debug symols are included by default
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542. # [14:38] <marxin> tbsaunde: just looking in configure.in:6839, where: Debugging is OFF by default
543. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> debugging != debug symbols
544. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> Why did you add all those options, though?
545. # [14:40] <marxin> Ms2ger: because all external stuff like libvpx, ogg, webm are not familiar with LTO, some symbols must be marked with __attribute__ ((used))
546. # [14:40] <tbsaunde> building with system libvpx twice is a bit excesive :)
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548. # [14:41] <Ms2ger> Hmm? We use lto on linux, don't we?
549. # [14:41] <marxin> tbsaunde: duplicate, will be removed ;)
550. # [14:41] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: not yeah, gcc 4.5 is too old afaik
551. # [14:42] <Ms2ger> Oh
552. # [14:42] <Ms2ger> We can do pgo without lto on linux?
553. # [14:42] <marxin> Ms2ger: I do compilation with latest gcc (4.8.0)
554. # [14:42] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: yes
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556. # [14:42] <Ms2ger> Ah, interesting
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558. # [14:43] <marxin> How should I please disable all debug info, can't find switch in configure.in?
559. # [14:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3e3ac3dc3a9 - Joe Drew - Bug 716140 - Mark test_preferences.xul as sometimes asserting once.
560. # [14:44] <Ms2ger> Did you package your build or did you just look at dist/bin?
561. # [14:44] <tbsaunde> marxin: --disable-debug-symbols I believe
562. # [14:45] <marxin> Ms2ger: just using dist/bin compiled binary
563. # [14:45] <Ms2ger> Try ./mach package
564. # [14:46] <Ms2ger> IIRC, that may strip some things
565. # [14:46] <Ms2ger> joe, what's the intermittent assertion, and what's the bug to get it fixed? :)
566. # [14:46] <tbsaunde> or you can just run strip manually :)
567. # [14:46] <joe> Ms2ger: will file :)
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570. # [14:47] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
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573. # [14:50] <Ms2ger> smaug, how bad is it if http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/shistory/src/nsSHistory.cpp#965 fires?
574. # [14:51] <@smaug> Ms2ger: obviously not super bad, since we actually handle that case
575. # [14:51] <@smaug> Ms2ger: but can you reproduce that?
576. # [14:51] <Ms2ger> I found it in a tbpl log
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578. # [14:52] * Ms2ger looks locally
579. # [14:52] <joe> huh
580. # [14:52] <joe> TextDecoderBinding.o failed on PGO again
581. # [14:52] <Ms2ger> Weren't we going to set up graphs last time?
582. # [14:53] <Ms2ger> smaug, yes
583. # [14:53] <Ms2ger> smaug, running dom/browser-element/mochitest/test_browserElement_inproc_PurgeHistory.html locally hits it
584. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> And the _oop_ variant hits it in the child process, it seems
585. # [14:55] <@smaug> file a bug and CC jlebar ?
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587. # [14:56] <Ms2ger> Will do
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589. # [14:57] <joe> smaug: DocumentBinding.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "public: static void __cdecl nsIDocument::UnlockPointer(void)" (?UnlockPointer@nsIDocument@@SAXXZ) referenced in function "public: void __thiscall nsIDocument::MozExitPointerLock(void)" (?MozExitPointerLock@nsIDocument@@QAEXXZ)
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593. # [15:00] <@smaug> whaat
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595. # [15:01] <@smaug> joe: I just pushed the patch to try
596. # [15:02] <@smaug> does it need a clobber?
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598. # [15:03] <DevHC> compilation error with Clang, unresolved references: invoke_copy_to_stack and PrepareAndDispatch
599. # [15:03] * @smaug doesn't know how to force clobber builds
600. # [15:03] <DevHC> known? fixed?
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604. # [15:04] <DevHC> (Clang version: a revision checked out 2 days ago)
605. # [15:05] <@smaug> ah, maybe it was https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/?branch=mozilla-inbound which is needed for clobbering
606. # [15:05] <Ms2ger> It is
607. # [15:06] <ewong> Ms2ger: is that a bustage on smaug's push?
608. # [15:06] <ewong> or am I just jumping the gun?
609. # [15:06] <Ms2ger> Look at the scrollback :)
610. # [15:09] <@smaug> oh, right *Binding stuff again
611. # [15:09] <ewong> oh.ok
612. # [15:09] * @smaug tries to figure out how to clobber
613. # [15:10] <Mavericks> what's the best way to debug while running xpc shell tests. if it's passing through a certain line of code for instance
614. # [15:11] <Ms2ger> Mavericks, js or c++ code?
615. # [15:11] <Mavericks> Ms2ger: c++
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618. # [15:12] <Ms2ger> ./mach xpcshell-test -d foo/bar, I guess
619. # [15:12] * Ms2ger never runs those
620. # [15:12] <@smaug> no documentation about how to force clobber build?
621. # [15:12] <Mavericks> thanks Ms2ger will try that
622. # [15:13] <Ms2ger> smaug, go to https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/?branch=mozilla-inbound and check the checkboxes
623. # [15:13] <tbsaunde> smaug: I guess it would be nice to put the url in tbpl somewhere but there's not much else to document :)
624. # [15:14] <@smaug> but when do I need to use CLOBBER file?
625. # [15:15] <Ms2ger> To force people to clobber locally
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627. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> And when merging to other branches
628. # [15:16] <evilpie> Also when you like to make people angy
629. # [15:17] <@smaug> well, I just clobbered m-i
630. # [15:18] <Ms2ger> Then push a change to the clobber file before someone else pushes
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632. # [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5c2aee6ebe6 - Olli Pettay - clobber for bug 737100
633. # [15:19] <@smaug> I still don't understand why we need to do clobber builds all the time
634. # [15:19] <@smaug> something in *Binding handling is really broken
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637. # [15:23] <Ms2ger> Crap.
638. # [15:24] <Ms2ger> So I go and figure out who caused this assertion
639. # [15:24] <Ms2ger> And it's me \o/
640. # [15:25] <@smaug> ha
641. # [15:26] <Ms2ger> In my defense, bz reviewed it
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643. # [15:28] <nigelb> Somewhat relevant qdb for the situation http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6629
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648. # [15:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e6b20451bb6 - Christian Ascheberg - Bug 854175 - Don't add "(Private Browsing)" to the window title in permanent PB mode; r=ehsan
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653. # [15:38] <Ms2ger> padenot, any plans to fix bug 846769, btw?
654. # [15:41] <padenot> not sure why I'm even assigned
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656. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> Because you annotated it, I guess :)
657. # [15:43] <padenot> yeah
658. # [15:43] <padenot> anyways, I don't know this code
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660. # [15:44] <padenot> probably cpearce's job, not sure
661. # [15:44] <Ms2ger> Want to poke him? ;)
662. # [15:44] <padenot> we could, but I would expect it to be pretty busy
663. # [15:44] <padenot> (but then again, who isn't)
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665. # [15:45] <padenot> I'll needinfo him
666. # [15:45] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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700. # [16:26] <joe> smontagu: ping
701. # [16:27] <smontagu> pong
702. # [16:27] <joe> smontagu: there seems to be a repeatable timeout on your push to inbound
703. # [16:27] <joe> 07:57:13 WARNING - TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/browser/browser/base/content/test/social/browser_social_window.js | application timed out after 330 seconds with no output
704. # [16:28] <joe> although, unusually, it didn't happen on the subsequent push
705. # [16:28] <smontagu> joe: looking
706. # [16:29] <smontagu> hard to imagine that my push would affect that
707. # [16:30] <joe> yeah
708. # [16:30] <joe> it's very odd
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714. # [16:36] <joe> are PGO builds clobbered?
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718. # [16:42] <joe> probably not
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741. # [17:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0373ca9b42ef - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 853996 - Make sure that opening a new window in permanent private browsing mode never shows about:privatebrowsing; r=jdm
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749. # [17:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1b69057a270 - Tatiana Meshkova - Bug 851438 - crash [@ MozQWidget::showEvent] r=romaxa. DONTBUILD
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763. # [17:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42e972cb2941 - Bobby Holley - Bug 853571 - Do special detection for sandboxPrototype to make sure the source gets set up right in postMessage. r=bz
764. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/652ffc169141 - Bobby Holley - Bug 853571 - Tests. r=bz
765. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e218608de7de - Bobby Holley - Bug 853571 - Add some belt-and-suspenders checks for sketchy scripted caller detection. r=bz
766. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ae2b31a7587 - Bobby Holley - Bug 854019 - Continue checking the XBL bit if remote XUL disables XBL scopes. r=bz
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768. # [17:36] <Ms2ger> joe, oh no, no vacation for you...
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789. # [18:01] <nik_john> hi, i am trying to familiarise myself with the code for the browser, its theme etc, i think all the styling of the browser is done in browser.css, well which file contains the code where these selectors were created?
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796. # [18:03] <Cork> nik_john: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/themes/
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801. # [18:07] <mjrosenb> i'm getting this while building: anyone have any ideas what may be wrong? https://gist.github.com/5232650
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809. # [18:14] <nik_john> for the bug 632207, which selector is responsible for the button in the bookmark toolbar
810. # [18:14] <Cork> nik_john: best tool to help find things like that is normally dom inspector
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813. # [18:16] <Cork> nik_john: i would go with looking for the rules around #personal-bookmarks
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820. # [18:22] <Ms2ger> mats++
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828. # [18:27] <philor> mmm, looking pretty hosed on linux, aren't you little inbound?
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831. # [18:29] <philor> frequent, new, and misstarred hangs in tp, looking like you might not enjoy multithreaded image decoding
832. # [18:29] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, why the new dependencies on the "Assertions should be fatal" bug?
833. # [18:29] <philor> and a near total inability to build PGO
834. # [18:30] <Ms2ger> Not sure, actually; I guess it doesn't make sense to make all assertion bugs deps
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836. # [18:30] <Ms2ger> I don't think we have a tracking bug for assertions that are hit during mochitests?
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842. # [18:37] <BartlomiejB> I have a problem with compiling mozilla-central (possibly also latest release, but haven't checked yet): http://pastebin.com/zfFWLCJC
843. # [18:37] <philor> tbsaunde: ping
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845. # [18:38] <BartlomiejB> FYI: |python -c 'import md5'| doesn't report error.
846. # [18:40] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, correct, I don't think we do
847. # [18:44] <tbsaunde> philor: hi
848. # [18:45] <philor> tbsaunde: hey, you know everything about Linux PGO builds, right? is it possible that the delightfully intermittent build failure https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21026780&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is from surkov's https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/392c55ce512d, rather than just happening to start on that push?
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851. # [18:48] <tbsaunde> philor: no, but it seems pretty unlikely that's surkov's fault
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855. # [18:50] <tbsaunde> glandium: any ideas about ^?
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857. # [18:51] <philor> oh, "good," it should be on m-c now, that should spread it around enough to give us lots of examples
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859. # [18:52] <philor> joe: remarkably flexible definition of pgo-clean you've got there ;)
860. # [18:54] <tbsaunde> philor: do clobbers generally work better?
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862. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> Ooh, and that's totally bholley too
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864. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> Though I'm not sure how
865. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> I guess we say "intermittent", then
866. # [18:56] <philor> tbsaunde: the very first instance of it was on a clobber
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868. # [18:58] <tbsaunde> philor: welp
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870. # [19:02] <@dbaron> philor, are there non-clobber pgo builds?
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872. # [19:03] <philor> dbaron: yes, they exist, and the second time it failed on surkov's push doesn't claim to be a clobber
873. # [19:04] <@dbaron> I'm having trouble reconciling these 2 messages:
874. # [19:04] <philor> sfink: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21034409&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - just the intermittent spreading to a new test, or new rootanalysis bustage?
875. # [19:04] <@dbaron> error: coverage mismatch for function '_ZN7mozilla3dom24TextDecodeOptionsWorkers8ToObjectEP9JSContextP8JSObjectPN2JS5ValueE' while reading counter 'arcs'
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877. # [19:05] <@dbaron> note: coverage mismatch ignored due to -Wcoverage-mismatch
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881. # [19:06] <sfink> philor: I'd guess an intermittent. It's a new test, but I *think* it's been running successfully for a few days. I'll try to confirm.
882. # [19:06] <philor> when I foolishly thought that google would tell me what "coverage mismatch" was, what it mostly told me was that gcc used to have insane flags for coverage mismatch, which maybe got fixed after our old gcc
883. # [19:07] <sfink> yeah, looks intermittent. Is that a known intermittent?
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885. # [19:07] <sfink> oh, bug 847728
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887. # [19:08] <philor> yeah, though that's been bug738525.js so far
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889. # [19:09] <sfink> it's probably spread to the new test, which isn't wholly unexpected
890. # [19:10] <sfink> what special magic do I need to make these builds do to get stacks?
891. # [19:10] <sfink> but for now, I guess I'd better stop ignoring my kids
892. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> The rootanalysis builds, you mean?
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894. # [19:11] <philor> heh
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921. # [19:31] <tbsaunde> philor: its for even more ancient gcc, but gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=20815 is gives na interesting idea
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943. # [19:56] <nik_john> for the bug 632207, will coding -moz-padding-start:2px for the selector #personal-bookmarks do the trick? i tried this and it works.
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945. # [20:02] <@smaug> joe: you have unstarred oranges in m-c
946. # [20:02] <philor> not as many as he will
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949. # [20:04] <@smaug> philor: are you perhaps going to merge m-i to m-c soon?
950. # [20:06] <philor> smaug: no, but I just closed both of them, to avoid a landing rush when I said "no, I'm not going to merge them unless and until I'm merging backouts of busting linux32 PGO and busting linux tp"
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964. # [20:23] <tbsaunde> philor: so shall we try backing surkov how because we can't think of anything better to do?
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967. # [20:26] <philor> tbsaunde: that's my plan, just haven't quite decided whether I want to back out him first, or joe first and him second, plus since this is my every-other-week one day weekend, I've got a bunch of other irons in the fire too
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970. # [20:28] <tbsaunde> philor: if you decide I can back stuff out
971. # [20:28] <tbsaunde> or I can can randomly pick one to backout first
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973. # [20:29] <philor> I think, joe second, there's no question about him being busted, and that'll give us a second push we can trigger PGO on
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978. # [20:31] * tbsaunde waits on hg backout
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981. # [20:31] <philor> whee, and there's the PGO bustage on m-c
982. # [20:32] <@smaug> fun, m-c doesn't compile here
983. # [20:33] <@smaug> /home/smaug/mozilla/hg/mozilla/js/src/jsfuninlines.h:194: error: undefined reference to 'JSFunction::ExtendedFinalizeKind'
984. # [20:33] <joe> hi
985. # [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fd95a7e87de - Trevor Saunders - backout 392c55ce512d bug 853340 to see if it somehow broke linux pgo landed on a CLOSED TREE
986. # [20:34] <joe> philor: so is the PGO bustage not due to clobber?
987. # [20:34] <philor> joe: no, the first instance of it was a clobber
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990. # [20:37] <joe> i was going to ask why i never saw the tp hang on my try
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992. # [20:37] <joe> but then i realized it was because I never ran talos on my try runs
993. # [20:38] * joe claps for himself
994. # [20:38] <philor> yeah, we've done a great job of pretending that nobody ever needs to run talos on try because talos is only about perf comparisons to something other run
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998. # [20:39] <philor> tp in particular is prone to breaking, I think there's two different styles of talos, everything else runs one and tp runs the other
999. # [20:40] <tbsaunde> joe: I assume this mornings push needs to come out too? or do you have a fix? or can you back out?
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1002. # [20:41] <joe> tbsaunde: this morning's push won't need to be backed out
1003. # [20:41] <joe> it's an assert(0,1)
1004. # [20:41] <joe> so even if there's no asserts it's fine
1005. # [20:43] <tbsaunde> joe: ack
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1007. # [20:48] <@dolske> is it even possible to change a c[pp]/h file and not require a clobber any more? this is getting ridiculous.
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1009. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> dolske, no
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1014. # [20:49] <@smaug> seems like changes to anything *Binding files might include need a clobber
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1016. # [20:50] <@smaug> this is some recent regressiong
1017. # [20:50] <joe> oh shits, i missed a change in my linux vm I think
1018. # [20:50] <@smaug> dolske: thanks for the help !
1019. # [20:50] <joe> i'm going to try to reproduce the hang on that vm, and see if this change (which I made for some reason, i suppose) makes a difference
1020. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aab4a115f06c - Trevor Saunders - backout 275cd395f9fa and 9e4b22851976 bug 716140 for breaking linux tp on a CLOSED TREE
1021. # [20:51] <tbsaunde> joe: sorry, pushed before you said that
1022. # [20:51] <Ms2ger> smaug, it's because we converted too much stuff, and command lines are overflowing, and dependency trackers are crashing
1023. # [20:51] <joe> tbsaunde: no, the tree comes first
1024. # [20:51] <joe> tbsaunde: repushing is not a big deal :)
1025. # [20:51] <tbsaunde> joe: yeah, vm sounds like its not a quick fix
1026. # [20:52] <philor> great, CLOBBER burn
1027. # [20:52] <@dolske> smaug: happy to! :)
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1029. # [20:52] <@dolske> Ms2ger: ah, so it really is new breakage? is there a bug about it?
1030. # [20:53] <Ms2ger> dolske, it's going to be fixed by mddepend.pl removal, which is blocked on pymake not doubling your build times
1031. # [20:53] <@smaug> dolske: gavin mentioned that there are plans to improve permission handling. I'm all for that. The current setup is too complicated
1032. # [20:53] <@dolske> smaug: indeed, it's a Q2 goal for us.
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1034. # [20:54] <philor> tbsaunde: crap, got the PGO bustage on a retrigger of the push before surkov's
1035. # [20:54] <@dolske> well, at least, that'll get rid of the need for the page info uglyness.
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1037. # [20:54] <@smaug> dolske: would be great to have a setup which is easy to use in C++
1038. # [20:55] <@smaug> hopefully no need to hack chrome js
1039. # [20:55] <@smaug> (only some localization files and theming perhaps)
1040. # [20:55] * @dolske spies bug 462463
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1043. # [20:56] <@dolske> bsmedberg 2008-10-31 I've got plane-time to look at this: should be simple!
1044. # [20:56] <tbsaunde> philor: great
1045. # [20:56] * @dolske chuckles
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1047. # [20:57] <joe> philor: tp generally doesn't hang, correct?
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1050. # [20:57] <philor> joe: correct
1051. # [20:57] <joe> *nod*
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1053. # [20:58] <philor> and for bonus PGO fun, now we're retriggering across a CLOBBER touch, which makes that burnt build on the backout nearly inevitable
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1055. # [20:59] <philor> the only way to avoid it is to clobber, trigger a build (on either side of the CLOBBER), wait for it to be picked up, clobber
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1058. # [21:00] <joe> dep builds are for suckers anyways
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1060. # [21:01] <tbsaunde> philor: do you have retriggers of even older pushes? none look like good suspects but
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1062. # [21:01] <joe> *very* weird that tp hasn't hung on m-c
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1064. # [21:01] <philor> tbsaunde: not yet, I momentarily froze when I realized how fucked we are because of CLOBBER
1065. # [21:02] <philor> joe: green is 20 minutes, hung is 90 or 100, those ones still running on m-c should provide your hangs
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1067. # [21:03] <joe> philor: ah, very good
1068. # [21:03] <joe> philor: (not doubting, just surprised)
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1070. # [21:03] <philor> yeah, it threw me on retriggers on inbound for a bit too, getting a whole lot of green quickly
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1075. # [21:07] <philor> this is going to be a whole lot of fun
1076. # [21:07] <joe> well at least it gives me a chance to unbreak myself
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1081. # [21:13] <joe> ah, there are the failures
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1089. # [21:27] <mjrosenb> is m-c still suffering from the issue where load() does a load from the wrong directory?
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1100. # [21:39] <azakai|far> anyone know about when the next nightly will likely be built?
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1103. # [21:40] <tbsaunde> azakai|far: 0300 pst
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1105. # [21:40] <azakai|far> thanks tbsaunde
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1107. # [21:42] <@smaug> tbsaunde: why then?
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1111. # [21:42] <@smaug> tbsaunde: looks like the previous one was 15xx
1112. # [21:42] <tbsaunde> smaug: isn't that the normal time?
1113. # [21:43] <@smaug> dunno
1114. # [21:44] <tbsaunde> smaug: I certainly remember that being it, but maybe things changed, or maybe someone manually triggered one
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1116. # [21:45] <joe> is tp5o.manifest available anywhere? I already have tp5n.zip, but it doesn't include the tp5o manifest
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1124. # [21:50] <@dolske> yeah 3am PT (or thereabouts) is the usual time, but it can be triggered manually too.
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1133. # [22:00] <joe> jmaher: ping
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1139. # [22:05] <joe> jmaher: unping, found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843620
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1141. # [22:06] <tbsaunde> philor: as I'm sure will just shock you I just had a local pgo build with gcc 4.7 on linux 64 succeed
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1143. # [22:07] <philor> tbsaunde: yeah, I haven't been retriggering them to force the issue, but we haven't had a linux64 failure yet on either tree, no idea what that means
1144. # [22:09] <tbsaunde> philor: oh, huh I didn't even look but that's pretty weird
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1149. # [22:17] <luisbg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854212
1150. # [22:17] <luisbg> build break, investigating it a bit
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1152. # [22:18] <@smaug> cpearce: I wouldn't mind if you pushed that localization fix once m-i is open again
1153. # [22:18] <cpearce> smaug: the string change?
1154. # [22:18] <@smaug> yeah
1155. # [22:19] <cpearce> ok, I'll consider that r+.
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1159. # [22:19] * @roc wonders why his try push is hanging
1160. # [22:20] <@smaug> cpearce: make sure to test both file and non-file urls
1161. # [22:20] <cpearce> sure.
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1177. # [22:30] <@roc> /join #releng
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1179. # [22:30] <@roc> errr
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1182. # [22:30] <luisbg> roc, :)
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1186. # [22:31] <joe> tbsaunde: do you happen to know whether writing to a boolean is atomic? in particular, atomic for other variables?
1187. # [22:31] <joe> tbsaunde: i ask because i know it isn't atomic for the other variables in the case of |bool foo:1;|
1188. # [22:34] <tbsaunde> joe: not really, I'd kind of think it is, but maybe compilers are crazy and write the whole word?
1189. # [22:34] <joe> yeah i suppose that's what I'm wondering about
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1192. # [22:35] <Daniel> hi
1193. # [22:36] <Daniel> Would anyone tell me in which directory, the chrome code for FB messenger for Firefox is stored please?
1194. # [22:36] <@smaug> FB messenger ?
1195. # [22:36] <joe> Daniel: fb messenger is written by facebook; it's not included in firefox's source code
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1197. # [22:37] <Daniel> No I asked whether I can access it through chrome://
1198. # [22:37] <joe> oh
1199. # [22:37] <joe> i have no idea
1200. # [22:37] <joe> probably not
1201. # [22:37] <joe> it's not chrome privileged
1202. # [22:37] <@smaug> felipe: ^
1203. # [22:37] <Daniel> hmm so maybe modifying it could be impossible
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1206. # [22:40] <luisbg> Daniel, I really doubt fb shared the code
1207. # [22:40] <luisbg> they usually don't
1208. # [22:41] <tbsaunde> smaug: arg I'm hitting that jsfun stuff too, have you hacked around it yet?
1209. # [22:41] <philor> joe: are you planning on disabling test_image_layers.html before you go on vacation, or are we going to disable it after you go?
1210. # [22:42] <joe> philor: i'm planning on rewriting it as a reftest tomorrow
1211. # [22:42] <philor> mmm, TextDecoderBinding.o on dzbarsky's push, interesting
1212. # [22:42] <Daniel> yeh but I wonder it is stored somewhere on the user's machine since it is client-side code
1213. # [22:42] <joe> philor: if that goes poorly I'll disable it though
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1215. # [22:42] <@smaug> tbsaunde: nope
1216. # [22:42] <philor> and at least two PGOs that have done sendchanges and triggered tests, on the push below him, also interesting
1217. # [22:43] <BartlomiejB> Daniel: if it is addon, then I guess in the same localization as all addons.
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1219. # [22:43] <philor> joe: thanks
1220. # [22:43] <@smaug> tbsaunde: I'm not getting that with m-i, so I'm just expecting some fix to be in m-i but missing from m-c
1221. # [22:43] <@roc> does youtube work with Flash disabled for anyone? because it doesn't work for me
1222. # [22:43] <joe> i really wish i could reproduce this hang on my own computer
1223. # [22:43] <Ms2ger> Youtube? What's that?
1224. # [22:43] <Daniel> BartlomiejB: It is a service through Social API
1225. # [22:44] <joe> i keep finding possible fixes but the turnaround time for try is too damned high
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1227. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> joe, if it's an issue, loan a slave
1228. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Wait, whoa
1229. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> heycam is back?
1230. # [22:45] <Daniel> roc: Most videos could be h.264
1231. # [22:45] <heycam> good morning Ms2ger
1232. # [22:45] <tbsaunde> smaug: huh, I'm building m-i (bholly's push from this morning)
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1234. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Good evening, heycam, we missed you :)
1235. # [22:45] <@smaug> tbsaunde: I think I had to do clobber on m-i
1236. # [22:45] <heycam> awww
1237. # [22:46] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: running tests byhand on test slaves is not easy :(
1238. # [22:46] <Ms2ger> heycam, ... and we've got a huge pile of work for you now you're back :)
1239. # [22:46] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, I can imagine
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1241. # [22:47] <heycam> Ms2ger, hmm I thought I left myself a huge pile of work before I went on vacation :)
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1243. # [22:47] <Ms2ger> heycam, that makes two :)
1244. # [22:48] * heycam scrolls his thunderbird back to late february and starts from there
1245. # [22:49] * Ms2ger wonders how philor would like it if he added 170 more files to m2
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1250. # [22:50] <Ms2ger> heycam, we'll see you back when you caught up after easter, then? :)
1251. # [22:51] <heycam> heh
1252. # [22:51] <luisbg> roc, doesn't work for me either (youtube without flash)
1253. # [22:53] <@smaug> youtube does work without Flash here. Well, some videos at least
1254. # [22:53] <reuben> roc: does youtube.com/html5 say HTML5 is enabled for you?
1255. # [22:54] <@roc> yes it is
1256. # [22:54] <luisbg> in my case it says "You are currently in the HTML5 trial. "
1257. # [22:54] <@roc> (although it shouldn't matter, since I don't Flash installed)
1258. # [22:54] <@smaug> or is this about h264 for which I don't have decoder on linux
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1260. # [22:54] <luisbg> smaug, it should be part of libav
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1262. # [22:55] <luisbg> oh yeah! it says the browser can't support h264
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1264. # [22:55] <luisbg> but I have it in my system (and use it extensively) in GStreamer/LibAV
1265. # [22:57] <Daniel> Firefox does not support h.264 (yet)
1266. # [22:57] <philor> Ms2ger: no problem, just keep running up the failure rate in that chunk, eventually I can give it the Android C1 treatment
1267. # [22:57] <joe> ugh
1268. # [22:57] <Ms2ger> philor, \o/
1269. # [22:57] <joe> please do not tell me that trychooser syntax for tpo is netiher tpn or tpo
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1271. # [22:58] <Ms2ger> joe, afaik, it's -t all :)
1272. # [22:58] <joe> tp5o
1273. # [22:58] <joe> shoot me
1274. # [22:58] <joe> agghhhh
1275. # [22:58] <philor> joe: tp5o I think
1276. # [22:58] <philor> lemme look
1277. # [22:59] <joe> yep
1278. # [22:59] <philor> but yeah, -t all and send copies of the bill to both releng and ateam
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1280. # [22:59] <tbsaunde> smaug: no, clobber doesn't fix it what ref are you on?
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1285. # [23:01] <philor> the best part is, I reviewed the trychooser patch to fix it, and it's still taken me this long to say "yeah, tp5o"
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1287. # [23:01] <joe> -t all it is
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1289. # [23:02] <@smaug> tbsaunde: m-i is up-to-date
1290. # [23:03] <@smaug> tbsaunde: and just verified, m-i builds ok, m-c doesn't
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1295. # [23:07] <tbsaunde> smaug: huh, its jard to belive the backouts I pushed fixed it...
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1303. # [23:18] <philor> okay, 5-for-5 PGO on a5170d1c3bac, dzbarsky must be the witch, it couldn't possibly be the case that just once 5 builds wasn't enough to hit it
1304. # [23:18] <dzbarsky> philor: what happened?
1305. # [23:19] <joe> dzbarsky: i'm sorry to report that you're made of wood
1306. # [23:19] <dzbarsky> i'm not a duck!
1307. # [23:19] <philor> dzbarsky: bug 854225, good luck with it!
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1314. # [23:28] <tbsaunde> smaug: still broken for me so I gave up and backed Luke out locally
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1317. # [23:33] <@smaug> odd
1318. # [23:34] <njn> dholbert, sstangl: can you try the patch in bug 854212? (tbsaunde, that might help you too)
1319. # [23:34] <njn> tbsaunde: if you're talking about what I think you're talking about
1320. # [23:35] * @smaug tries that
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1322. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3aef14dc53a - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 939f0488b0f7:46e4373d6d95 (bug 847120) and 13443c4586a4:e7f48e9b8bd7 (bug 853692) on suspicion of causing bug 854225 Linux32 PGO build failures
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1324. # [23:38] <@smaug> njn: at least I got now father than without the patch. past js/src
1325. # [23:38] <njn> smaug: cool. Can you r+ it?
1326. # [23:38] <@smaug> farther
1327. # [23:38] <njn> smaug: and now I just need to wait for inbound to open
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1334. # [23:43] <@dolske> "Rose is the lead for the avionics flight software team at SpaceX. He is a former video game programmer"
1335. # [23:43] <@dolske> that's gotta be one hell of a culture shock.
1336. # [23:43] * jchen|away is now known as jchen
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1343. # [23:46] <@dolske> "In his team, they have a full-size Justin Bieber cutout that gets placed facing the team member who broke the build. They found that "100% of software engineers don't like Justin Bieber", and will work quickly to fix the build problem. "
1344. # [23:47] * @dolske places a very large order for philor to hand out. :)
1345. # [23:47] <nrc> lol at "100% of software engineers don't like Justin Bieber"
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1351. # [23:49] <@dolske> http://lwn.net/Articles/540368/ more a few more tidbits
1352. # [23:50] <BartlomiejB> :)
1353. # [23:50] <IanN> ah Rose is his surname
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1359. # [23:52] <@roc> that article is over two weeks old, I don't know why it suddenly appeared on Slashdot
1360. # [23:52] <@roc> oh yes I do
1361. # [23:53] <@roc> Slashdot users are idiots
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1363. # [23:54] <mjrosenb> /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/js/src/jsfuninlines.h:194: error: undefined reference to 'JSFunction::ExtendedFinalizeKind'
1364. # [23:54] <mjrosenb> /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/js/src/jsfuninlines.h:194: error: undefined reference to 'JSFunction::FinalizeKind'
1365. # [23:54] <@dolske> I had 2 completely independent people tweet it, but that probably just means they're /. users. :)
1366. # [23:54] <njn> mjrosenb: bug 854212
1367. # [23:54] <njn> dolske: 'When he worked on video games, they had a test to just "warp" the character to random locations in a level and had it look in the four directions, which regularly found problems. ' Fuzzing FTW!
1368. # [23:55] <njn> mjrosenb: just waiting for inbound to re-open to land the fix
1369. # [23:55] <mjrosenb> njn: danke.
1370. # [23:55] <njn> mjrosenb: bitte
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1373. # [23:56] <njn> mjrosenb: I'm glad I hit that exact problem last week in a patch before it landed, so I knew what was going on this time
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1376. # [23:58] <joe> philor: tp5 "browser non-zero return code (1536)"
1377. # [23:58] <joe> is this just another form of the hang?
1378. # [23:58] <philor> joe: probably, lemme see the log
1379. # [23:59] <joe> philor: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21037223&tree=Try&full=1#error0
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