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# [00:00] <joe> definitely feels like a bunch of the other tp runs i triggered on this changeset are going to hang too, so it's probably just a different manifestation
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# [00:00] <philor> joe: nice, probably the same hang, might be a crash, but being in the exact same place, "next: http://localhost/page_load_test/tp5n/dailymotion.com/www.dailymotion.com/us.html" I think it's the same thing
# [00:01] <joe> oh, they've been all over the place
# [00:01] <philor> oh, same place as the single hang I looked at, then :)
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# [00:02] <joe> haha
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# [00:14] <tbsaunde> njn: I'll probably just wait for you to land that on inbound since I backed the patch out locally and kicked off a build while I had dinner
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# [00:15] <tbsaunde> njn: I'm suprised setting the constant outside of the class definition in a cpp file causes link problems on msvc I'm pretty sure I can think of examples of us doing exactly that in gecko
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# [00:21] <njn> tbsaunde: the constant is set inside the class; it's the definition (which lacks a RHS) outside the class that causes the problem
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# [00:21] <njn> tbsaunde: and it might need to be used in a non-const expr to cause a problem
# [00:23] <tbsaunde> njn: sure, what I was questioning more is that you can't set the constant outside of the class (per your comment in the bug)
# [00:24] <philor> huh, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21034444&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - do we actually play a .ogg in test_contextmenu.html, or did something forget to stop running when it was finished?
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# [00:25] <njn> tbsaunde: hmm, maybe that's an easier way to do it
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# [00:25] <njn> tbsaunde: I thought that didn't work for some reason, but it seems to
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# [00:32] <philor> sfink: oh, golly, I've got some kind of jseng bustage in my Try push of aurora as beta, there must be something that's going to break when we merge next week
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# [00:33] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=85bc94b35949
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# [00:36] <baku> peterv, yt?
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# [00:37] <joe> 16:23:45 INFO - Assertion failure: _mOwningThread.GetThread() == PR_GetCurrentThread() (nsSimpleURI not thread-safe), at ../../../../netwerk/base/src/nsSimpleURI.cpp:46
# [00:37] <joe> well that certainly sucks
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# [00:38] <tbsaunde> joe: did multithreaded image decoding assume nsIURIs had threadsafe AddRef / Release?
# [00:39] <joe> tbsaunde: possibly
# [00:40] <joe> although it's a tiny bit surprising to me that this is being deleted off the main thread
# [00:41] <joe> tbsaunde: i take it by what you said that it absolutely does not have threadsafe addref/release?
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# [00:43] <tbsaunde> joe: from that assertion I'd expect so let me check the macro
# [00:43] <joe> tbsaunde: i was wondering more about the interface's guarantees
# [00:43] <joe> as implemented it certainly isn't thredsafe
# [00:43] <joe> threadsafe
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# [00:47] <tbsaunde> joe: ah, not sure
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# [00:50] <tbsaunde> joe: since nsSimpleURI and nsSimpleNestedURI also don't have threadsafe AddRef / Release I'd say you shouldn't expect anything that's an nsIURI to have threadsafe ones
# [00:51] <tbsaunde> joe: try using bholly's MainThreadHolder thing?
# [00:53] <joe> tbsaunde: some simple logic changes should have fixed this I think
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# [01:12] <JosiahOne> What in the world. Can you even align text center, center in a div element? If my box is 40 px, I want the text to show in the MIDDLE of the box, not the center of the top edge. Is this possible?
# [01:12] <JosiahOne> I tried inside my 40px box, using:
# [01:13] <JosiahOne> <div style="top: 50% position: absolute">
# [01:13] <JosiahOne> Test
# [01:13] <JosiahOne> </div>
# [01:13] <JosiahOne> To no avail.
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# [01:18] <NeilAway> JosiahOne: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2939914/vertically-align-text-in-a-div
# [01:19] <NeilAway> JosiahOne: looks like it's been asked at least 15 times on stack overflow ;-)
# [01:19] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: Yeah… HTML ain't my thing. :)
# [01:19] <JosiahOne> NeilAway: Thanks for the link!
# [01:21] <tbsaunde> is |+ a valid operator? gcc 4.7 seems to think it is...
# [01:22] <@dbaron> tbsaunde, is it followed by a number? Could it be an | and then a unary + ?
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# [01:23] <tbsaunde> dbaron: its followed by a member of an enum
# [01:25] <tbsaunde> dbaron: yeah, +<enum member> seems to be valid so I guess so
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# [01:39] <mike5w3c> "We know it took a while, but your build finally finished successfully!" is a nice encouraging message
# [01:39] <mike5w3c> kudos to whoever added that
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# [01:41] <heycam> can someone help me understand my try push failure here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=55de88273dfe
# [01:41] <heycam> did I hit a bad machine?
# [01:42] <darkowlzz|zzz> hsivonen, ping!
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# [01:44] <philor> heycam: looks like it, and I think it really likes you - what I do in cases like that is retrigger twice really quickly, so one job is bound to escape the foul beast
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# [01:44] <heycam> philor, good idea. what's the usual way to deal with the bad slave, file a releng bug?
# [01:45] <philor> heycam: yeah, but of a particular flavor and pattern, I'll get it unless you really want to learn how
# [01:46] <heycam> philor, happy to leave it to you :)
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# [01:47] <philor> conveniently, the ? icons in http://build.mozilla.org/builds/last-job-per-slave.html will do it after a couple of clicks, so I don't actually remember all the whiteboard cruft anymore either
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# [01:56] <philor> mmm, 4 out of 5...
# [01:56] <tbsaunde> philor: ?
# [01:57] <philor> tbsaunde: PGO on the inbound tip, 4 of the 5 have made it as far as triggering tests
# [01:57] <tbsaunde> oh, nice
# [01:57] <@dolske> JosiahOne: flexbox or gtfo! :)
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# [01:58] <JosiahOne> dolske: Ooooh. Nifty. :)
# [01:59] <@dolske> mike5w3c: that would be gps, and I thought so too. :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648681#c43
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# [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec68e56cafa3 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Fix indentation of multi-line std::max invocations in nsFlexContainerFrame. Whitespace-only, DONTBUILD
# [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fadbd3c36f80 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge the last PGO-really-clean cset on mozilla-inbound to mozilla-central on a CLOSED TREE
# [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bcf09432affd - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ec2-620 - a=blocklist-update
# [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87b2de1db6fa - Joe Drew - Merge last pgo-clean changeset to mozilla-central.
# [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a10eca0c521 - Joe Drew - Merge last green mozilla-inbound into mozilla-central.
# [02:04] <joe> oh, i was going to say
# [02:04] <joe> is firebot a billion years behind
# [02:04] <philor> yeah, isn't that great?
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# [02:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abef045c80bc - Alexander Surkov - Bug 853340 - getTextAtOffset for word boundaries: beginning of a new life, r=tbsaunde
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# [02:06] <@dolske> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/000000000002 - Richard Dawkins - Bug 2 - implement multicellular life
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# [02:09] <philor> wow, this might be a really short reopening, since inbound hasn't scheduled builds on either of those pushes
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# [02:18] <philor> okay, reopened, do your worst
# [02:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea59a801aabf - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 846365 - Add proper handling for background session closes in Firefox for Metro. r=jimm
# [02:20] <philor> sigh, I can't believe I forgot to clobber m-c, after setting probably twenty clobbers today
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# [02:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/683bb0caab3a - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 854212 - Fix link errors in jsfuninlines.h caused by bug 851421. r=smaug.
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# [02:25] <mike5w3c> dolske: cheers to gps then :) The "For more information on what to do now, see https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Developer_Guide/So_You_Just_Built_Firefox" part is nice too
# [02:25] <philor> sheesh, that tiny little merge and I still got two security bugs I can't resolve
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# [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff9313fd56e4 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 851556: Makee GestureEventListener.cpp's "MAX_TAP_TIME" unsigned, so that the comparisons against it won't trigger build warnings. r=drs
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# [02:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3cb99f3f085 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 854133 - Stop the page from scrolling when the user tries to drag an <input type=range>'s thumb in the B2G browser app. r=smaug
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# [02:50] <dzbarsky> philor: is there a way to trigger those failing jobs on try?
# [02:50] <philor> dzbarsky: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryChooser#What_if_I_want_PGO_for_my_build
# [02:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3acbf951b3b1 - Sean Stangl - Bug 854197 - Only initialize WorkerThreadState in parallel mode. r=luke
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# [02:52] <philor> and try: -b o -p linux -u none -t none
# [02:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f9a36fafdfd - Sean Stangl - Bug 854197 - Only initialize WorkerThreadState in parallel mode. r=luke
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# [02:59] <dzbarsky> philor: ah, thanks
# [02:59] <joe> philor: uh, graph server falling over?
# [02:59] <joe> or perhaps the excessive logging I added to this build caused problems
# [03:00] <joe> however that might be a moot point since I just got 7 green Tp results on a changeset
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# [03:01] <philor> "graph server unreachable" is quite often a lie
# [03:01] <joe> "i blew my mind out in a car"
# [03:02] <philor> in this case it means "graph server perfectly reachable, but unhappy about the values being reported to it"
# [03:02] <joe> ah
# [03:02] <joe> well that's probably just fine
# [03:02] <joe> since I imagine it got rather a lot of data
# [03:02] <joe> like "here's five megs of text" a lot
# [03:03] <philor> nope, talos choked on something, and "No results collected for: tp5o_pbytes" but then it went ahead and told graphserver, which tried to compute an average for "" and "" and "" and ""
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# [03:05] <philor> personally, I think we should maybe feel a little bit worse than we do about the way we report failure to collect a data point as "graph server unreachable"
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# [03:18] <joe> naturally, fixing the Tp test failures breaks a pile of other things
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# [03:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9ab5d2d5c99 - Phil Ringnalda - merge m-c to m-i
# [03:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3acbf951b3b1 - Sean Stangl - Bug 854197 - Only initialize WorkerThreadState in parallel mode. r=luke
# [03:22] <philor> an arduous merge, that
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# [03:24] <joe> philor: btw, meant to mention - sorry for merging broken shit to m-c
# [03:24] <joe> my heart got ahead of my head
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# [03:26] <philor> joe: yeah, I know the feeling of wanting something to be mergeable - it's one of the advantages of having sheriffs who have no time left over to write patches, Ed and Ryan and I rarely have anything invested in a merge anymore :)
# [03:27] <joe> so you're saying we should make your life worse to make sure the tree stays green
# [03:27] <joe> this is the take-home lesson
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# [03:28] <philor> or possibly that having done a merge means you're now in charge of every tree, that'd work too
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# [03:29] <philor> yeah, you're going to have some serious starring and backing out to do when you get back!
# [03:30] <joe> lock the trees closed and throw away the key
# [03:30] <joe> Firefox 22: the Finally Finished version
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# [03:32] <jcranmer|away> so I'm happy
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# [03:44] * philor wonders who to blame for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21040429&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [03:44] <philor> plugins? indexeddb? xpcom? jseng?
# [03:44] <philor> general?
# [03:45] <joe> if you never want it to be solved, sure
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# [03:45] <philor> yeah, but that's true of all five
# [03:45] <joe> yeah definitely js
# [03:46] <joe> 19:20:26 INFO - Assertion failure: start + count <= Length() (Invalid length), at ../../dist/include/nsTArray.h:1020
# [03:48] <philor> I'll just email the log to khuey, it's his fault one way or another
# [03:49] <joe> better yet print it out and fedex it to him
# [03:50] <Callek> if you print it better do so in 18pt font double space, single sided, with the other side saying "This page intentionally left blank"
# [03:52] <ewong> lol
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# [04:02] * njn hates having to invoke |tar|
# [04:02] <njn> http://xkcd.com/1168/ is so true
# [04:03] <njn> I have a ~/doc/tar.txt file which documents how to do basic tarring and untarring because I can never do it from memory
# [04:04] <@dolske> I've used it too long, the basic commands are burned into my brain and completely natural
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# [04:04] <@dolske> I don't even notice the missing "-" for commands.
# [04:04] <@dolske> p.s. use |zip| if you prefer
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# [04:05] <derf> GNU tar lets you include the "-".
# [04:05] <@dolske> now, cpio, otoh...
# [04:06] <njn> derf: my mistake this time: I did |tar -cvfj x.tar.bz2 <dir>|... quick, what did I get wrong?
# [04:06] <derf> njn: c is not x.
# [04:06] <njn> derf: I was creating a tarball
# [04:06] <derf> Oh, well j after f is also bad.
# [04:06] <njn> yeah
# [04:07] <derf> f always goes last :)
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# [04:08] <@dolske> j? oh.
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# [04:18] <njn> derf: woo! I untarred successfully, on the other machine, first try, without looking at the docs
# [04:18] <njn> there must be badge for that
# [04:19] <derf> tar -xvzf is just muscle-memory now.
# [04:19] <derf> It was much worse in the days before z/j/J was a thing.
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# [04:28] <@dolske> word.
# [04:29] <@dolske> (although I expect that somewhere there were epic battles over pipe-to-[gb]zip being the One True Way.
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# [04:36] <joe> derf: njn: believe it or not you can just tar xvf on all .tar.[bgz]x2?
# [04:36] <joe> with gnu tar anyways
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# [04:38] <derf> Well, I don't believe your glob pattern.
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# [04:39] <joe> that's a regex, of coruse
# [04:39] <joe> course
# [04:39] <@dolske> bro do you even glob?
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# [04:41] <njn> In about:memory, you can load a JSON memory reporter dump. It's easy, implemented via <input type="file">. Now I want to do the opposite -- add a button that lets you write the JSON out to file. I believe this is harder, though about:memory is chrome, which helps. Any pointers?
# [04:42] <joe> the profiler extension does exactly this
# [04:42] <njn> dolske: this seems like something you'd know ^^
# [04:42] <njn> joe: where is the code?
# [04:42] <joe> https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon
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# [04:43] <@dolske> njn: easy peasy.
# [04:44] <@dolske> sadly, the first thing that comes to mind is https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/storage-Legacy.js#1088
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# [04:45] <joe> presumably you could just write json.toString9)
# [04:45] * @dolske tries to think if there's a more straightforward flavor.
# [04:45] <njn> dolske, joe: I want a file dialog, so the user can choose where to save it
# [04:45] <glob> dolske, yes
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# [04:47] <@dolske> oh my, I just suggested writing on the main thread.
# [04:47] * @dolske spies https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/search/nsSearchService.js#2655
# [04:47] <njn> dolske, joe: actually, I've misdescribed what I want. There's a bunch of C++ code that already does the dumping. I just want to bring up a file dialog so the user can choose the save location, and then I want to pass that to the C++
# [04:47] <njn> the JS-to-C++ part isn't a problem
# [04:48] <njn> I just need the file dialog
# [04:48] <@dolske> ah
# [04:48] <njn> maybe I can subvert <input type="file"> after all
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# [04:48] <joe> why in the name of god does github not have a search field
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# [04:50] <joe> njn: https://github.com/bgirard/Gecko-Profiler-Addon/blob/master/lib/main.js#L1732
# [04:50] <@dolske> there's nsIFilePicker.... doesn't look terribly easy to use, alas
# [04:51] <joe> cut and paste programming, man
# [04:51] <njn> joe: lovely
# [04:51] <njn> thanks
# [04:51] <joe> it's even license compatible
# [04:51] <@dolske> yeah, that should work.
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# [04:51] * @dolske was looking at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/pageinfo/pageInfo.js#762
# [04:52] <@dolske> I think you're going down the wrong path, though, generally
# [04:52] <njn> though I still wonder if <input type="file"> could be made to work
# [04:52] <@dolske> you should make "firefox cf aboutmemory.json" work.
# [04:53] <@dolske> I think an <input> is only going to allow you to select an existing file.
# [04:53] <njn> dolske: sorry, that's already implemented, but you have send signal 34 and it's Linux-only
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# [04:54] <njn> dolske: ah, true (about <input>)
# [04:54] <@dolske> damnit! I'm running openbsd, you clod.
# [04:54] <joe> insensitive clod
# [04:54] <@dolske> joe: I was trying to be polite, you insensitive clod.
# [04:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a715855b639 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 842142 - Prevent odd text wrapping in SVG text. r=roc
# [04:55] <@dolske> new industry trend: data in the clod
# [04:56] <joe> clod computing is cruel but cheaper
# [04:57] <@dolske> it's very exclusionary. as they say, "there's no u in clod"
# [04:57] <joe> they do say that
# [04:57] <@dolske> often repeatedly
# [04:57] <@dolske> jerks
# [04:58] <joe> man, arewefastyet v8bench scores read like Google's watching it and just checking things in as we get close
# [04:58] <@dolske> basically the playground all over again. I just wanted to play on a team server. :(
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# [05:00] <JPeterson> how do i remove this popup window that's saved in the firefox session https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2z5p162ovqtbn17/hys9CoG6Y0/image/firefox
# [05:01] <@dolske> O_o
# [05:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/71fe5b69c834 - Chris Double - Bug 812881 - Add some Samsung JB devices to Stagefright blocklist - r=bjacob
# [05:03] <JPeterson> my question incorrectly assume that window is associated with firefox.exe which it's not
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# [05:27] <joe> in addition to reprioritizing pending jobs, we really need some way of overclocking current jobs
# [05:27] <joe> semi-related: i wonder how many kWh of compute time I've used over the past month
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# [05:30] <Callek> 600TWh
# [05:30] <Callek> per my calcs
# [05:30] <Callek> give or take a megawatt
# [05:35] <@dolske> joe: well, for a start there's http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/highscores/highscores.html
# [05:36] <@dolske> 2,164 hours. tsk.
# [05:36] <ewong> lol
# [05:36] <@dolske> WINNERS DON'T USE DRUGS
# [05:36] <ewong> "Winners don't use drugs"
# [05:37] <joe> guys
# [05:37] <@dolske> (it's ok, caffeine is not a drug)
# [05:37] <joe> there's something i've been wondering
# [05:37] <joe> and i'ts really not clear to me what the answer is
# [05:37] <joe> but
# [05:37] <joe> do winners use drugs?
# [05:37] <fox2mike> YES.
# [05:37] * @dolske takes a drink.
# [05:38] * fox2mike registers dowinnersusedrugs.com
# [05:38] <fox2mike> actually
# [05:38] * fox2mike thinks about registering dowinnersusedrugs.com
# [05:38] <@dolske> true fact: the original text was "weiners don't use drugs", but was shut down by the bratwurst augmentation industry.
# [05:39] <@dolske> (pork steroids, super bacon, etc. it's a long sad tale of woe)
# [05:39] <Callek> you can win on drugs, but you might be a winning cheater depending on the rules of the game
# [05:39] <Callek> and cheaters only lose if they are caught :-P
# [05:39] <Callek> reminds me of that guy who lost his job because he was outsourcing his job to a firm in china, when he worked remotely
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# [05:40] <fox2mike> isn't that true for everything? you only lose when you're caught...
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# [05:44] <@dolske> reminds me of that guy who was using drugs and lost a testicle. draw your own conclusion.
# [05:44] <@dolske> (ok, ok. s/drugs/doping/)
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# [05:45] <@dolske> ((lance armstrong lest ye not get the joke))
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# [06:12] <joe> alright, i'm calling it
# [06:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1541b7a03e17 - Joe Drew - Bug 716140 - Control multithreaded encoding with a pref. r=seth
# [06:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e2bdda8c3ca - Joe Drew - Bug 716140 - Implement multithreaded decoding using a thread pool. r=seth
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# [06:39] <@dolske> joe: will you be dropping a mic?
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# [06:59] <mjrosenb> in fennec, how frequently should we be spawning and killingthreads?
# [07:00] <mjrosenb> oh
# [07:01] <mjrosenb> this is firefox/arm
# [07:01] <mjrosenb> not fennec
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# [07:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ace686b691c - Cameron McCormack - Bug 844683 - Prevent scoped-style-pseudo-00[12].html from failing when :scope is disabled. r=philor
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# [07:26] <mjrosenb> does anyone know if we use (or have used) 0xdeadbaad as a poison value anywhere?
# [07:26] <mjrosenb> it seems like we are attempting to dereference that value
# [07:26] <mjrosenb> quite explicitly.
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# [07:27] <Unfocused> mjrosenb: android itself uses it
# [07:28] <Unfocused> no idea where we do or not
# [07:28] <gw280> yeah, I seem to remember it being in bionic
# [07:29] <mjrosenb> Unfocused: oh, well, that would be a rather fun source of this crash.
# [07:29] <mjrosenb> think they use it to throw an assertion failure?
# [07:30] * Unfocused doesn't know details
# [07:30] <gw280> Address 0xdeadbaad is used by the libc abort() function. It's called by dlmalloc when native heap corruption is detected, but I can't tell if that's what's happening from the backtrace.
# [07:30] <gw280> (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14498)
# [07:30] <mjrosenb> gw280: neato, thanks.
# [07:31] <gw280> so just break on abort and you should be golden :)
# [07:31] <gw280> (if only debugging were that simple...)
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# [07:33] <mjrosenb> naveed: morning.
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# [07:33] <mjrosenb> philor: oh man, that would be amazing
# [07:33] <mjrosenb> i'd be able to debug EVERYTHING
# [07:34] <philor> everything that I spent the entirety of my Sunday hounding out of the tree is back in the tree
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# [07:36] <philor> ah, *nearly* everything
# [07:37] <ewong> m-5 orange?
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# [07:37] <ewong> "uncaught exception - uncaught exception: No matching logins at :0 "
# [07:38] <@dolske> and my power goes out...
# [07:38] * @dolske wonders how long UPS + cablemodem will last
# [07:38] <ewong> 2 minutes?
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# [07:39] <ewong> what kind of UPS do you have?
# [07:41] <@dolske> just the standards APS kind
# [07:41] <@dolske> BackUPS-CS350
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# [07:49] <@dolske> hmm, so far so good.
# [07:49] <ewong> then probably longer.. 20 minutes?
# [07:49] <@dolske> glad I replaced the battery last year.
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# [07:50] <@dolske> interesting to watch the rest of the complex from my balcony, with people randomly finding flashlights and candles.
# [07:50] <dzbarsky> philor: try said its ok!
# [07:50] <dzbarsky> what could possibly go wrong?
# [07:50] <philor> heh
# [07:51] <@dolske> clearly a staged outage for the new World War Z movie.
# [07:51] <dzbarsky> and yeah, i hav no idea whats wrong with the rest of the patches. i hate pgo
# [07:51] <philor> I know I've certainly never thought I was running PGO on try only to find that I wasn't
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# [07:52] <dzbarsky> philor: check this out: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21046901&tree=Try#error0
# [07:52] <philor> dzbarsky: bug 820796
# [07:53] <philor> alas, the official opinion of the js team is "you should stop doing PGO on Linux, that'll fix it"
# [07:53] <mjrosenb> is there a list of etherpads?
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# [07:54] <mjrosenb> vlad: ping?
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# [07:59] <mjrosenb> vlad: unping
# [07:59] <mjrosenb> vlad: I now have the bit.ly address linked to in your etherpad memorized
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# [08:01] <@dolske> good to know that Comcast and my UPS are working!
# [08:01] <@dolske> and, well, the rest of the bay area, judging from the glow on the horizon
# [08:02] <@dolske> kind of disappointing it's not a widescale outage, was hoping to shoot some zombies
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# [08:03] <@dolske> all of *7* WiFi SSIDs, instead of the usual slew.
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# [08:05] <@dolske> Would probably be nice to set up open-wifi for long term outages. But for now I'll just be a jerk. http://cl.ly/image/2G0L1J0R1o2F
# [08:08] <mjrosenb> dolske: open-wifi?
# [08:09] <@dolske> about now is when I start wondering if I was in the middle of doing laundry, or if it finished.
# [08:09] <@dolske> things not on UPS: washer, dryer.
# [08:10] <markh> my "open wifi" as a guest network lasted about 4 days when (presumably) the 21yo next door neighbor noticed and was using about 40GB per day :(
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# [08:10] <mjrosenb> dolske: should put the microwave on there as well
# [08:10] <mjrosenb> dolske: so you can have some hot food while the power is out.
# [08:11] <@dolske> nah, I have propane for that.
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# [08:16] <@dolske> I'll note that these are pretty handy for power outages: http://www.containerstore.com/shop/needIt/under20?productId=10025866
# [08:16] <raymond> has anyone had problems with firefox build failing with usage: ../../../config/./nsinstall ... ?
# [08:16] <raymond> My googling hasn't been helpful :(
# [08:17] <@dolske> also handy: tritium, but let's not talk about that.
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# [08:20] <@dbaron> dolske, https://twitter.com/PGE4Me has nothing, fwiw
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# [08:21] <@dolske> I see https://twitter.com/naonao/status/316084456597381120 (not verified, so who knows)
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# [08:23] <@dolske> I'm fairly fascinated by following thing like this on Twitter and other media. So far (this and previous events), Twitter seems best at confirming things lots of people see.
# [08:23] <@dolske> eg, I don't even know how I'd search for something like this on Facebook.
# [08:24] <@dolske> Google News usually has nothing to say for hours, and even then just has the barebones basics.
# [08:25] <mjrosenb> dolske: this is why every company spams you with 'follow us on facebook!'
# [08:25] <@dolske> (insert long sad tale here regarding current state of mainstream journalism)
# [08:25] <mjrosenb> dolske: itym "blogalism"
# [08:26] <@dolske> no, really. mainstream media outlets are the last to catch onto local breaking events, and even then have little (if anything) to offer.
# [08:27] <@dolske> if I'm lucky, there will be a brief article tonight or (more likely) tomorrow in the SJ Mercuy news about this outage.
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# [08:27] <@dolske> it'll be 2-3 paragraphs, state the usual about X customers affected, PG&E blah blah blah, and overall be too little too late.
# [08:28] <raymond> Yeah, when I read stories like that I sometimes wonder whether they use a template.
# [08:28] <reuben> oh man, I'm glad we're not biking home from Cupertino now :P
# [08:28] <reuben> cers: ^
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# [08:34] <cers> reuben: yeah - someone could have gotten hurt (>_<)
# [08:34] <reuben> lol
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# [08:37] <ewong> philor should I file bugs for the remaining 2 oranges.. or did you have plans for them?
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# [08:39] <@dolske> down to 4 SSIDs other than mine.
# [08:40] <mjrosenb> dolske: ooh, are we taking money on the winner?
# [08:40] <@dolske> also, good to know my UPS/cable is good for an hour+ of service.
# [08:40] <mjrosenb> of course if it isn't you, we'll never know who the winner is :-)
# [08:40] <mjrosenb> dolske: laptop or desktop?
# [08:40] <@dolske> it's me, a few 2WIREXXX, a Someone's iPhone, and 1 other.
# [08:41] <@dolske> I've been thinking about upgrading my UPS, so if I don't win this time I may just win next time. :)
# [08:41] <mjrosenb> the iphone will probably be on for a while...
# [08:42] <mjrosenb> then again, if you are on a laptop + single wap attached to a ups
# [08:42] <mjrosenb> you should be able to last for several hours.
# [08:42] <@dolske> also, my wifi AP seems to double as a space heater, so I'm not thrilled with that.
# [08:42] <ewong> heh
# [08:42] <@dolske> OSX claimes 5+ hours, but we'll see.
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# [08:51] <mjrosenb> dolske: is it asking the ups?
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# [08:56] <@dolske> no, my laptop isn't on the UPS.
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# [08:56] <mjrosenb> ahh. so if the only thing on the ups is your wifi ap, I'd imagine that your laptop will die first.
# [08:56] <@dolske> it's an older model, I don't have it hooked up to anything for monitoring
# [08:56] <@dolske> I think it supports USB, but it's still got APS's shitty old RJ-45-style connector.
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# [08:57] <@dolske> I would actually bet on the UPS dying first, but I've not run the numbers. :)
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# [08:58] <@dolske> also, this is the point where I start pondering a bigger UPS. :)
# [08:59] <@dolske> although last time I did so, I veered into wanting one with pure sinewave output, but those are $$$$.
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# [09:12] <nigelb> is it not #paris?
# [09:13] <taras> nope
# [09:13] <taras> ah #frenchmoz
# [09:13] <Callek> yea was about to recommend that one
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# [09:14] <Callek> I didn't think it was paris offic specifc, and more for french-speaking community, but either way works
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# [09:31] <Callek> if there is many fedora pgo's running (as there looks to be) the red tests from it might just be race conditions
# [09:32] <Callek> since as one build is uploading test results a test is trying to download them, and then getting truncated files or something
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# [09:39] <@dolske> doot de doo...
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# [09:42] <ewong> whoa..retriggered three times..
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# [09:44] <ewong> Ms2ger ping
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# [09:44] <@smaug> hyvää huomenta
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# [09:45] <ewong> whoa...4 retriggers?
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# [09:53] <Ms2ger> ewong?
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# [09:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bef19bca23f9 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
# [09:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4ff44d1d4750 - Joe Walker - Bug 722727 - GCLI should make the value available to max/min functions; r=mratcliffe
# [09:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6a1a959b8a2c - Sadineni Ravi Chandra - Bug 771466 - GCLI devtools.command.dir option should accept ~ for home directory; r=jwalker
# [09:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f952eebd4cbd - Joe Walker - Bug 657595 - GCLI type conversion should be a type->type affair not just arg->type; r=mratcliffe
# [09:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d5cdec6efff9 - Joe Walker - Bug 784790 - GCLI cookie command should use internal Cookie API rather than document.cookie; r=mratcliffe
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# [09:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0bc53c846709 - Anton Kovalyov - Bug 853650 - Support for multiple simultaneously running profiles. r=past
# [09:54] <ewong> Ms2ger: yeah.. was just wondering if 'i;r' would be the right comment for the reds on dzbarsky's push?
# [09:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/55bea9d170b7 - Joe Walker - Bug 850929 - GCLI needs a simpler way to mark parameters as being options; r=paul
# [09:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ed8fc1dfe8aa - Joe Walker - Bug 852110 - Allow tools to build a concrete panel rather than only a promise of a panel; r=mratcliffe
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# [09:56] <Ms2ger> ewong, just a moment...
# [09:56] <ewong> Ms2ger: ok
# [09:56] <Ms2ger> Bug 845563
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# [09:56] <ewong> ah thanks!
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# [10:19] <mjrosenb> if jimdb is printing out a bunch of these: "adb| dependency: fp StaticContent"
# [10:19] <mjrosenb> what is likely doing that printing, the js itself, or is there some metadata that is doing dependency resolution (and fetching data)
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# [10:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54746dec6ade - Jan de Mooij - Bug 852798 - Don't use JSPROP_READONLY for shell-only customNative property. r=djvj
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# [10:46] <Wusel_> is there a guide how to make my addon with autoupdate?
# [10:48] <KWierso|Home> Wusel_: might try asking over in #addons
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# [10:48] <KWierso|Home> or #extdev
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# [10:54] <@roc> 2:19.84 ../libjs_static.a(jsinterp.o): In function `js::CloneFunctionObjectIfNotSingleton(JSContext*, JS::Handle<JSFunction*>, JS::Handle<JSObject*>)':
# [10:54] <@roc> 2:19.84 /home/roc/mozilla-central/js/src/jsfuninlines.h:194: undefined reference to `JSFunction::ExtendedFinalizeKind'
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# [10:55] <@smaug> there is a patch for that
# [10:55] <@smaug> didn't it land already
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# [10:55] <@smaug> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854212
# [10:56] <@smaug> it is in inbound
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# [10:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/631d57b31bb1 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 854212 - Fix link errors in jsfuninlines.h caused by bug 851421. r=smaug.
# [10:59] <@smaug> roc: fixed now ^
# [10:59] <@smaug> m-c and m-i
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# [11:02] <marcoz> Good morning! Anyone know if build dependencies for Firefox for Android changed again recently? I'm getting a missing .h file when compiling some .c files in the media/ folder.
# [11:02] <marcoz> Sorry can't be more specific, need to find it again and therefore have to scroll back several hundred lines in the terminal buffer. I'm on OS X.
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# [11:11] <edmorley> marcoz: not that I know of
# [11:12] <edmorley> marcoz: android seems to be our most clobber-needed platform; was it a dep build?
# [11:12] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I thought that was windows by now
# [11:12] <Ms2ger> And good morning
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# [11:13] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
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# [11:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aed1da04448d - Vendelin Ruzicka - Bug 854190 - Remove duplicate JS code in test_create_objectStore.html and import existing JS file. r=janv
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# [11:31] <marcoz> edmorley: Oh it was a fresh build. I hadn't built in over a week so did an rm -rf obj-android first. :)
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# [11:33] <marcoz> edmorley: It tries to compile cubeb_openssl.c and doesn
# [11:34] <marcoz> doesn't find sles/opensles.h
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# [11:35] <padenot> marcoz: remove the line in you mozconfig that says that you want to use android ndk level 5
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# [11:35] <masayuki> Sigh... Now, loop + alert() attack is now spread in Japan with twitter. Firefox for Android doesn't have a solution for this attack... I filed bug 854340.
# [11:35] <padenot> marcoz: it has been bumped to 9
# [11:35] <padenot> marcoz: and clobber
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# [11:37] <marcoz> padenot: Ah, thanks! So I also need to get a new NDK? I have R8D I think.
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# [11:37] <padenot> nope
# [11:37] <padenot> just change you mozconfig and clobber
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# [11:39] <marcoz> padenot: OK!
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# [12:57] <joe> dolske: I dunno, the mic-dropping didn't work out too well last time
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# [13:02] <Ms2ger> joe, aww :)
# [13:03] <joe> even though my code is ever so green and beautiful
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# [13:05] <Ms2ger> ... For now
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# [13:06] <edmorley> only 26 csets not merged atm
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# [13:21] <bz> grr
# [13:21] <bz> this change to default window size is annoying. :(
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# [13:25] <glandium> bz: what changed?
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# [13:25] <Ms2ger> I noticed a change when running mochitests
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# [13:31] <bz> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719318
# [13:32] <bz> glandium: the behavior on a 1280x1024 screen changed
# [13:32] <bz> er, 1920x1200 screen
# [13:32] <bz> Used to bring up a 960x1190 window or so
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# [13:32] <bz> now it brings up something that's closer to 1440x900
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# [13:49] <Arkanath> I have an idea that can be transformed into a good project.I will just briefly describe my idea to you: I am planning for a chat interface which will provide chat context responsive feeds on the page you're chatting on, The feeds will be news, images and videos,etc. about the things that the user is talking about.
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# [13:49] <Arkanath> This will help the users for getting a quick knowledge of anything thats there in the chat and this will be a great source of fun also. We do spend a lot of time in waiting while others write down their chats or are just idle, at that time it can be a great source of entertainment.
# [13:49] <Arkanath> I want your opinions!
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# [13:55] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Like IRC chat?
# [13:56] <Arkanath> it can be any chat client
# [13:56] <Arkanath> can be a group chat also
# [13:56] <Arkanath> the idea is for the interface!
# [13:56] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Not to sound to negative, but wouldn't they just open up a web browser?
# [13:57] <Arkanath> They can, but it will not only be for your requirements...
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# [13:57] <JosiahOne> User's have tons to do, I'm not sure how displaying all kinds of information on their client is a good idea.
# [13:57] <JosiahOne> It's not good UX.
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# [13:57] <JosiahOne> Chat clients are already pretty busy, and moving videos/articles would distract a user.
# [13:58] <JosiahOne> IMO. That said, many people may find it useful.
# [13:58] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Is this suppose to be web-based or native?
# [13:59] <Arkanath> umm
# [13:59] <Arkanath> web based
# [13:59] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Alright, then also. Wouldn't all of this information vastly slow down loading times?
# [13:59] <JosiahOne> When they could just open up a new tab and go wherever they please?
# [13:59] <Arkanath> http://www.flickr.com/photos/92961276@N03/8522986415/
# [14:00] <Arkanath> Have a look at this link
# [14:00] <Arkanath> This is just a small prototype that i made
# [14:00] <Arkanath> As the feeds will be context responsive
# [14:00] <JosiahOne> Err… Yeah...
# [14:00] <JosiahOne> Are those feeds going to navigate the user away on click?
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# [14:01] <JosiahOne> Or open up in popup iFrames?
# [14:01] <Arkanath> i made it up using iframes
# [14:01] <JosiahOne> Yes, but when they click on the links, does it open in a new tab or something? How does that work?
# [14:01] <Arkanath> new tabs!
# [14:01] <Arkanath> if you click on them
# [14:02] <Arkanath> but that was a prototype
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# [14:02] <Arkanath> it will be better if it opens up in a modal like thing
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# [14:02] <Arkanath> And food use of AJAX will do it much better
# [14:03] <Arkanath> *good
# [14:03] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Right, hmm… I personally don't see the benefit of it, as this seems like Feedly. Chat client in one tab, Feedly in the other.
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# [14:03] <Arkanath> haha
# [14:03] <Arkanath> not feedly actually
# [14:03] <Arkanath> its chat context related
# [14:03] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Exactly, so Mibbit in one tab, Feedly in the other. ;)
# [14:03] <Arkanath> :)
# [14:04] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Unless… If you pull this information from the chat topic, that would be cool.
# [14:04] <Arkanath> That is what i meant when i say context responsive
# [14:04] <JosiahOne> Parse through the conversation in the last 30 minutes, try to find related topics, show relevant results.
# [14:04] <Arkanath> I did it using content analysis apis
# [14:04] <Arkanath> I did it for every 5 chats
# [14:05] <Arkanath> If you see carefully its related to chat
# [14:05] <Arkanath> :)
# [14:05] <JosiahOne> Still bad UX, but very cool and perhaps useful. :)
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# [14:05] <JosiahOne> Colors need to change.
# [14:05] <Arkanath> I know it wasnt even working properly
# [14:05] <Arkanath> but this can be a prototype to have an idea
# [14:05] <Arkanath> :)
# [14:05] <JosiahOne> Yeah, I'm just giving some feedback.
# [14:06] <Arkanath> hmm
# [14:06] <Arkanath> :)
# [14:06] <Arkanath> did you notice the image in the background?
# [14:06] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: And for sure, remove that faded background that shows Microsoft surface. It's incredibly distracting.
# [14:06] <JosiahOne> Just go white all the way.
# [14:06] <Arkanath> but even that will be chat related!
# [14:06] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: It's still distracting.
# [14:07] <Arkanath> hmm
# [14:07] <Arkanath> it should be shown somewhere else, isnt it?
# [14:07] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: You have plenty going on here, we don't need an image in the background that serves no purpose.
# [14:07] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: No, you don't need to show it anywhere. The results are good enough.
# [14:08] <Arkanath> Yeah it makes sense
# [14:08] <Arkanath> but you get the best idea by an image
# [14:08] <Arkanath> dont you?
# [14:08] * JosiahOne Notes that if done right, this could be an awesome money maker.
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# [14:08] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: No, if you are talking about the Surface Pro, then users know in their heads what the topic is about. Make them think the results are "magical", don't wait for something to change.
# [14:09] <Arkanath> what if a friend talks about something you dont know exactly?
# [14:09] <Arkanath> in that case images can help fast
# [14:10] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: But you have videos/pictures not he left side.
# [14:10] <Arkanath> only videos
# [14:10] <Arkanath> those are the thumbnails!
# [14:10] <JosiahOne> But they display as pictures.
# [14:10] <JosiahOne> So they know what the iPad and Surface is in this case.
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# [14:10] <Arkanath> thats true!
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# [14:11] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: I think the page would look a *lot* better without the faded image.
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# [14:11] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Is it possible for your to remove that from the mockup and upload a new picture?
# [14:11] <Arkanath> I will have to give it some time!
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# [14:12] <Arkanath> but its there in my code database!
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# [14:12] <Arkanath> i will have a look again
# [14:12] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Oh, alright. Anyway, if you do that. And change the colors to draw attention to the chat frame, I think it's a pretty good idea.
# [14:12] <Arkanath> what if we show the image in the background of the chat box?
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# [14:12] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: No! Don't do that! :)
# [14:12] <Arkanath> I totally agree with you
# [14:13] <JosiahOne> No images… In… Backgrounds… Ever… ;)
# [14:13] <Arkanath> why not then just a sliding image bar on the top?
# [14:13] <Arkanath> :P
# [14:13] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Sliding image bar? For what?
# [14:13] <Arkanath> like itunes cover art design?
# [14:13] <Arkanath> will contain images!
# [14:13] <Arkanath> :-/
# [14:13] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: But you have images on the right side!
# [14:14] <JosiahOne> Left*
# [14:14] <Arkanath> Ok!
# [14:14] <Arkanath> so you are saying that only the video thumbnails will do the job?
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# [14:15] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Actually, those thumbnails could probably be removed as well, that is the most distracting part. But if you want images somewhere, then yes, that is all you need.
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# [14:15] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Also, do you plan to integrate ads into this?
# [14:15] <Arkanath> Hey!
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# [14:16] <Arkanath> I wanted this to be a GSoC project!
# [14:16] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Ohhh...
# [14:16] <Arkanath> you are deviating!
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# [14:16] <JosiahOne> Someone who knows more about GSoc, aren't are GSoC projects suppose to be built around Mozilla Products?
# [14:16] <Arkanath> @JosiahOne: whats your opinions?
# [14:17] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: I believe Mozilla GSoC projects are suppose to revolve around Firefox/Thunderbird/FirefoxOS/etc.
# [14:17] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Not web apps.
# [14:17] <JosiahOne> I could be wrong though.
# [14:17] <Arkanath> that is the problem precisely
# [14:18] <Yoric> Oh great, I can't build mc-.
# [14:18] <Arkanath> Actually, I am just going to finish the freshmen year of Computer Science And Engineering at IIT Kharagpur but I do have 2 years of coding experience and I know quite well basics of all types of coding.
# [14:18] <Yoric> m-c, that is
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# [14:18] <Arkanath> So i dont know where exactly this idea can be used!
# [14:18] <Arkanath> I need guidance
# [14:19] <Yoric> Arkanath: Well, we have (mentored) Mozilla Student Projects.
# [14:19] <Yoric> These include a number of Web Applications.
# [14:19] <Arkanath> That will be cool
# [14:19] <Yoric> We're not doing anything with GSoC, though.
# [14:19] <Yoric> I mean, not as part of the MSP.
# [14:20] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: We have a wiki page for GSoC project ideas somewhere though.
# [14:21] <Arkanath> Yeah mozilla does have
# [14:21] <Yoric> So, DrawTargetCairo.o doesn't build for me.
# [14:21] <Arkanath> From there only, i found this channel id
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# [14:22] <Yoric> Do I remember something about removing Cairo?
# [14:22] <JosiahOne> Arkanath: Well, this channel is really meant for contributors working on Mozilla Projects.
# [14:22] <Yoric> Arkanath: You might wish to move to #introduction.
# [14:22] <JosiahOne> If you take one of the GSoC ideas than you will probably spend some time asking questions here.
# [14:23] * JosiahOne Agrees with Yoric.
# [14:23] <Yoric> This is where Student Projects, mentored bugs, etc. live.
# [14:23] <Yoric> Well, at least where they grow and thrive :)
# [14:23] <Arkanath> Ohk!
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# [14:23] <Yoric> I have compilation issues involving SK_OVERRIDE and plenty of other SK_*.
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# [14:26] <padenot> Yoric: this is skia stuff
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# [14:26] <Yoric> Yes, I had gathered that much.
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# [14:26] <Yoric> What I don't know is 1/why it fails (do I need a specific version?) 2/why I need it at all.
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# [14:27] <padenot> clobber?
# [14:27] <Yoric> I'm on MacOS X.
# [14:27] <Yoric> Brand fresh clone.
# [14:27] <Yoric> I mean, I could clobber, just in case.
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# [14:27] <padenot> pastebin?
# [14:27] <Yoric> padenot: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2244613
# [14:28] <Yoric> Clobbering and rebuilding, in the meantime.
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# [14:31] <NeilAway> whoa, that's weird... when I scroll, I see the image repaint partly at first
# [14:31] <padenot> gw280: ^^
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# [14:38] <glob> bz, hi!
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# [14:38] <bz> glob!
# [14:38] <bz> glob: try this
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# [14:38] <bz> glob: 1) Load https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851769
# [14:39] <bz> glob: 2) Scroll down to the "need additional information" checkbox
# [14:39] <bz> glob: 3) Check that.
# [14:39] <bz> glob: 4) Select "other" from the dropdown (imo this should be the default)
# [14:39] <bz> glob: 5) Type ":bent" in the textfield
# [14:39] <bz> glob: 6) Submit the form.
# [14:40] <bz> glob: 7) On the interstitial page that you get, select "Ben Turner" and submit.
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# [14:40] <bz> glob: observe the lack of a needinfo request.
# [14:40] <glob> Ooo
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# [14:41] <glob> bz, thanks for the str, will file and fix
# [14:41] <bz> glob: awesome, thanks
# [14:41] <bz> glob: want a separate bug on the default in that dropdown? ;)
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# [14:42] <glob> bz, nope :) imho it should default to the reporter
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# [14:42] <glob> but different people/teams use bmo differently, so i doubt we'll settle on a default which makes everyone happy
# [14:42] <bz> glob: mmm
# [14:43] <bz> glob: For me it ends up being "other" 99.9% of the time
# [14:43] <bz> glob: but ok
# [14:43] <bz> glob: defaulting to "anyone" seems wrong no matter what
# [14:43] <bz> glob: to me
# [14:43] <bz> glob: can we add a pref for the default? ;)
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# [14:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92278dbb6657 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 848088 (IonMonkey: property get IC for DOM list proxies fails to detect expando). r=jandem.
# [14:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35c42e6784fb - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 852979 (Remove unused nsContentUtils::JSArrayToAtomArray). r=smaug.
# [14:43] <glob> bz, for me, it's about 90% for the reporter
# [14:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62a4aa80d668 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 853136 (Prepare some tests for HTMLDocument using a WebIDL binding). r=bholley.
# [14:44] <glob> bz, i wonder if it would be useful to make it 'sticky'
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# [14:45] <glob> bz, i'd favour 'remember last selection via a cookie' over a pref any day. feel free to file that one if you like
# [14:45] <NeilAway> can you query for all needinfo flags to find out which was the most popular?
# [14:45] <bz> glob: hmm
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# [14:45] <bz> glob: let me think about the cookie bit
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# [14:46] <bz> Um
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# [14:51] <ejpbruel> I'm trying to run a single chrome test with the following line:
# [14:51] <ejpbruel> TEST_PATH=docshell/tests/chrome/test_846906.xul make -C obj-x64-debug mochitest-chrome
# [14:51] <ejpbruel> but it doesn't seem to work (i get 0 out of 0 tests passed)
# [14:51] <ejpbruel> what am I doing wrong?
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# [14:53] <NeilAway> mak: so, what's the difference between a URI and a visit?
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# [14:54] <mak> NeilAway: none, what differs is the resultType (AS_URI or AS_VISIT)
# [14:54] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, docshell/tests or docshell/test?
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# [14:56] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: thank you, you wonderful man :)
# [14:56] <mak> NeilAway: and basically AS_VISITS has duped uris cause it's all the visits, AS_URI has unique uris (time is last visit)
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# [14:57] <NeilAway> mak: well, what I really want to know is if either of http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?string=VISIT&find=suite&findi=&filter=VISIT%5Cb&hitlimit=&tree=comm-central needs changing ;-)
# [14:58] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: so, whenever i change something in that dir i need to run make in order to copy the tests over to the build dir. can i avoid doing a complete rebuild though?
# [14:58] <mak> NeilAway: the RESULTS_AS_VISIT is fine, the other one will become to undefined, but since it's in a case with TYPE_URI will keep working properly, just matter of cleanup
# [14:58] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, only on windows; non-windows symlinks the tests
# [14:59] <NeilAway> mak: ok, and I guess these are unused and should be cleaned up too: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?string=Visit&find=suite&findi=&filter=%5Cbas%5Cw*Visit%5Cb&hitlimit=&tree=comm-central
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# [15:00] <mak> NeilAway: yes, I'm not totally sure what's the situation regarding utils.js in suite, it looks like half a way between PlacesUtils and PlacesUIUtils
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# [15:00] <NeilAway> mak: yeah, well that probably dates back to SeaMonkey 2.0 which only supported places history, not bookmarks
# [15:01] <mak> ok
# [15:01] <mak> though asVisit and friends have always been in PU afaik
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# [15:14] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: ping
# [15:14] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, hi
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# [15:15] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: hi! do you know if, when running a single chrome test, i can tell make to run the test within gdb?
# [15:15] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: I'm crashing so fast that attaching to it while running is not really an option
# [15:16] <Ms2ger> ./mach --debugger=gdb mochitest-chrome docshell/test/chrome/test_846906.xul
# [15:16] <Ms2ger> Or EXTRA_TEST_ARGS=--debugger=gdb if you insist on make
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# [15:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d55f019795c - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 853911 - Fix nsPluginHost usage in nsPluginTag. r=bsmedberg
# [15:17] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: thanks again! :)
# [15:18] <Ms2ger> Np
# [15:18] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
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# [15:19] <bz> ejpbruel: ack
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# [15:19] <ejpbruel> bz: I'm currently writing a test for my patch for bug 846906
# [15:20] <ejpbruel> bz: I'm running into an assertion that says we shouldn't create puppet widgets in this configuration
# [15:20] <ejpbruel> bz: from what i can tell, were only supposed to do so from content processes, but were doing so from a chrome process in this case. would it be safe to drop this assertion?
# [15:20] <bz> ejpbruel: which assertion?
# [15:20] <bz> ejpbruel: where is the assert?
# [15:20] <ejpbruel> bz: widget/xpwidgets/PuppetWidget.cpp:39
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# [15:21] <bz> ejpbruel: how about only asserting it when aTabChild?
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# [15:22] <ejpbruel> bz: good idea
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# [15:22] * bz tries. ;)
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# [15:26] <Ms2ger> "Assigned To: Q <q@mozilla.com>"
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# [15:27] <baku> Ms2ger, tell me more about this Attrs
# [15:27] <baku> is it a idl component? or what?
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# [15:28] <Ms2ger> baku, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/core/nsIDOMAttr.idl
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# [15:28] <baku> Ms2ger, \o/
# [15:28] <Ms2ger> :)
# [15:29] <baku> Ms2ger, something should I know before starting? some big issue just behind the corner?
# [15:30] <Ms2ger> I don't actually think so
# [15:30] <baku> k
# [15:30] <Ms2ger> You should get wrappercache from nsINode already
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# [15:32] <baku> Ms2ger, can you review HTMLInputElement ?
# [15:32] <baku> I finally fixed all the mochitests...
# [15:32] <Ms2ger`> I suppose so
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# [15:32] <NeilAway> mak: ok, fair enough
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# [15:33] <NeilAway> mak: looks like it doesn't have asFullVisit though
# [15:33] <mak> NeilAway: maybe ported when we killed it?
# [15:33] <ejpbruel> bz: would you have any clue why GetDOMEventTarget would fail on a nsWebBrowser that was initialised with a PuppetWidget?
# [15:35] <bz> ejpbruel: did you set a chrome event handler?
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# [15:35] <philor> ohgod, "let's run debug Android tests even though they don't actually print what assertion they hit in the log, and just disable tests which hit assertions"
# [15:35] <ejpbruel> bz: in nsAppShellService:CreateWindowlessDocShell? doesn't look like it
# [15:36] <ejpbruel> bz: got some example code?
# [15:36] <bz> ejpbruel: one sec
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# [15:39] <bz> ejpbruel: I guess just search mxr for SetChromeEventHandler?
# [15:39] <bz> ejpbruel: there is no magic there
# [15:39] <bz> ejpbruel: that said, having a null chrome event handler should be ok...
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# [15:39] <marcoz> Hi! Anyone got an idea why I can no longer install Fennec builds onto my Gingerbread 2.3.6 device? It builds the package, transfers it, then Package Manager barfs on an invalid -d argument. Installing on a Jelly Bean device works fine.
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# [15:40] <bz> Ah, so
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# [15:40] <ejpbruel> bz: it might be a bug in nsDocShellTreeOwner, theres no null check for it
# [15:40] <bz> I don't know how this ens up working in the current TabChild case
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# [15:41] <bz> er...
# [15:41] <bz> no nullcheck where?
# [15:41] <bz> GetDOMEventTarget nullchecks it
# [15:41] <ejpbruel> bz: sorry, let me be more specific
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# [15:41] <ejpbruel> bz: yes, but then embedding/browser/webBrowser/nsDocShellTreeOwner.cpp:855 ignores the error returned by GetDomEventTarget
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# [15:42] <ejpbruel> bz: so we assert in the line below because were dereferencing a null comptr
# [15:42] <edmorley> grr what's with the stupid captcha on wiki.m.o
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# [15:42] <edmorley> why can't we switch it off for old accounts
# [15:42] <ejpbruel> bz: maybe we should just allow for target to be NULL there?
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# [15:42] <marcoz> mobile
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# [15:44] <bz> ejpbruel: lovely
# [15:44] <bz> ejpbruel: so we should figure out what gives
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# [15:44] <bz> ejpbruel: in particular, how we get a chrome event handler in the tabchild case
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# [15:47] <ejpbruel> bz: it would have to happen somewhere in TabChild::init, since thats where we create an instance of nsIWebBrowser, and the handler would have to be set when we call Create on it, to avoid a crash
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# [15:48] <ejpbruel> bz: could the different behaviour be caused by the fact that i changed docShellItem->SetItemType(nsIDocShellTreeItem::typeContentWrapper); to use a ChromeWrapper instead?
# [15:48] <bz> ejpbruel: Not sure. Check?
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# [15:49] <ejpbruel> ok, gimme a sec. i find it hard to keep track of this code flow
# [15:50] <Yoric> Does anyone know if there is a C call (libc or libxul) I could to to simply block the current thread for one second?
# [15:50] <Yoric> Note: not for production code, just for a unit test.
# [15:50] <sheppy> Yoric: does sleep() not do it?
# [15:51] <Yoric> sheppy: That would work, thanks.
# [15:51] <Yoric> I had forgotten that system call.
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# [15:51] <Yoric> Next step is finding out whether it exists under Windows.
# [15:51] <Yoric> (or something equivalent)
# [15:51] <Yoric> It does.
# [15:52] <ejpbruel> bz: if I'm reading this right, embedding/browser/webBrowser/nsWebBrowser.cpp :1217 always ends up mDocshellTreeOwner->AddChromeListeners (no early returns in that function)
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# [15:52] <tbsaunde> Yoric: even a test that sounds like a great way to introduce random orange
# [15:52] <@bz> ejpbruel: you're not the only one
# [15:53] <Yoric> tbsaunde: Well, the idea is to test a clock. I'm not sure how I can do this without introducing some time :)
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# [15:54] <tbsaunde> Yoric: that can be tricky, and I'm not clear on exactly what your doing so ok :)
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# [15:56] <Yoric> tbsaunde: yzen has patched OS.File so that we can now measure the duration of an off-main thread operation (not how long it takes to get the result back to the main thread, just the execution of the operation). So far, our unit tests only ensure that time does not decrease. It's a start, but it would be nice to have a reliable test that time does increase.
# [15:57] <ejpbruel> bz: are we positive TabChild::Init works in its current state?
# [15:57] <davidb> Anyone hit this running mochitests locally (on mac): "ImportError: No module named mozcrash"
# [15:57] <davidb> ?
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# [15:57] <davidb> (was trying 'python runtests.py --a11y')
# [15:57] <Yoric> davidb: I have run a few mochitest-chrome today, without problems.
# [15:57] <davidb> ok
# [15:57] <davidb> this might be a11y specific
# [15:57] <Ms2ger> davidb, might want to try mach
# [15:57] <Yoric> Yes, my tests were not a11y
# [15:58] <davidb> Ms2ger: yeah?
# [15:58] <@bz> ejpbruel: well
# [15:58] <@bz> ejpbruel: it's used for e10s
# [15:58] <@bz> ejpbruel: So to the extent that b2g apps exist, it works. ;)
# [15:58] <ejpbruel> :D
# [15:58] <@bz> ejpbruel: since they all use that codepath.
# [15:58] <ejpbruel> bz: was not aware to what extent we still used e10s code
# [15:58] <@bz> ejpbruel: b2g has process per app
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# [15:59] <tbsaunde> Yoric: isn't that just testing x = TimeStamp::Now(); do stuff; TimeStamp::Now() -x > 0; that doesn't seem like a terribly useful test, and I don't see why its related to os.file
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# [16:00] <Yoric> tbsaunde: Well, the sole point of the sleep() would be to obtain a guarantee that we have |> 0| and not just |>= 0|.
# [16:00] <ahal> davidb: there was a recent change which moved crash checking into it's own module
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# [16:00] <ejpbruel> bz: i guess it wouldn't be possible to hit this code path with a desktop build somehow? if i could set a breakpoint on TabChild::Init, i could then set another one on SetChromeListener
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# [16:00] <davidb> ahal: interesting
# [16:00] <ahal> davidb: you can rebuild or just install mozcrash locally (pip install mozcrash
# [16:00] <ahal> )
# [16:01] <joe> philor: lookit that row of green tp
# [16:01] <davidb> ahal: i did a full clobber build 1 hour ago
# [16:01] <davidb> should that have worked?
# [16:01] <philor> joe: pretty, isn't it? :)
# [16:01] <ahal> davidb: try using mach like Ms2ger suggested
# [16:01] <davidb> what is the syntax?
# [16:01] <ahal> there's an in-tree virtualenv that mozcrash should get installed into
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# [16:01] <ahal> davidb: not sure off hand, just try ./mach --help
# [16:02] <davidb> interesting!
# [16:02] <tbsaunde> Yoric: my point was its not clear to me there's something worth testing here
# [16:02] <@bz> ejpbruel: not sure
# [16:02] <@bz> ejpbruel: re desktop build
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# [16:03] <davidb> ahal, Ms2ger is there a way to run a single test via mach?
# [16:03] <davidb> single test file
# [16:03] <davidb> (got the suite to work)
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# [16:04] <ahal> davidb: not sure, I would think there would be
# [16:04] <luisbg> Is dev-apps-firefox the correct mailing list to follow for Firefox development?
# [16:05] <ejpbruel> bz: do we really have to figure this out? wouldn't it be acceptable to allow for null chrome listeners?
# [16:05] <luisbg> I'm surprised of the low traffic it has, I was expecting more
# [16:05] <@bz> /tmp/bindings/.deps/HTMLAreaElementBinding.h.pp
# [16:06] <@bz> Does it matter if this file changes on each binding codegen run?
# [16:06] <@bz> Seems like it shouldn't, but....
# [16:06] <@bz> ejpbruel: Unclear
# [16:06] <ahal> davidb: "./mach mochitest-a11y --help" says to just specify the test file directly
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# [16:06] <davidb> oh nice
# [16:06] <Ms2ger> davidb, what ahal said :)
# [16:06] <@bz> ejpbruel: Have you audited the various gecko code that uses a chrome event handler?
# [16:06] <davidb> heh
# [16:06] <@bz> luisbg: Define "firefox development"?
# [16:07] <froydnj> bz: maybe the make dependency graph changes with changes to that .pp and that...causes problems? (sounds pretty weird, though)
# [16:07] <@bz> luisbg: (but in general, the answer is that that list is not the correct list to follow for anything)
# [16:07] <tbsaunde> davidb: so, fwiw I get the same but using the python in _virtualenv/bin/python fixes it
# [16:07] <davidb> tbsaunde: ty
# [16:07] * @bz can fix the .pp generation to be stable
# [16:07] <@bz> in case it actually matters
# [16:07] <ejpbruel> bz: most places seem to call it on a doc shell instance, which we don't obtain until *after* we call Create on nsWebBrowser
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# [16:07] <luisbg> bz, with firefox development I mean the discussion happening of all the changes, decisions and news happening
# [16:07] <luisbg> bz, interesting from a code contributor point of view
# [16:07] <davidb> ahal, Ms2ger, tbsaunde thanks you sirs
# [16:08] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, davidb, fwiw, I'd like to make runtests.py not runnable on its own at some point
# [16:08] <luisbg> bz, the list of mozilla mailing lists is soooo long :P hard to find the right one for my interests
# [16:08] <@gavin> luisbg: for front-end firefox (Firefox-the-application, UI changes, etc.), you want firefox-dev
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# [16:08] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: why?
# [16:08] <evilpie> luisbg: most discussion happens in bugs
# [16:08] <@gavin> luisbg: for gecko changes, you want dev-platform
# [16:08] <@bz> davidb: there is no single list like that
# [16:08] <@bz> er...
# [16:08] <@bz> luisbg: there is no single list like that
# [16:09] <luisbg> gavin, is the GFX team part of gecko, right?
# [16:09] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: note that the way test slaves run tests is directly throuhg runtests.py iirc
# [16:09] <Yoric> tbsaunde: Yeah, that's true.
# [16:09] <luisbg> bz, one list to rule them all? :P
# [16:09] <@gavin> luisbg: yes, though gfx has its own list too, IIRC
# [16:09] <@gavin> oh, maybe not anymore
# [16:09] <@bz> luisbg: and most of the interesting discussion happens in bug reports, not on mailing lists, afaict....
# [16:09] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, yeah, this is with some ideas I have for the test slaves that probably will never happen
# [16:09] <luisbg> gavin, what did it used to be, I can look for it
# [16:09] <@gavin> mozilla.dev.tech.gfx, probably?
# [16:09] <@bz> luisbg: or on irc
# [16:09] <@gavin> but it no longer exists
# [16:09] <luisbg> bz, by bug reports you mean bugzilla, or a mailing list following bugzilla?
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, though I'd love to hear why you use runtests.py directly
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# [16:10] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: slightly easier than make EXTRA_TEST_ARGS=... TEST_PATH=...
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, and compared to mach?
# [16:10] <@bz> luisbg: bugzilla
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# [16:11] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: and then you ask why not mach and the answer is multiple objdirs and not wanting to set env vars to make that work
# [16:11] <luisbg> bz, sorry for the question, might be obvious for most but... is there a way to "follow" bugzilla if I'm interested in certain components
# [16:11] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, indeed I do, and yeah, we need to solve that
# [16:11] <Ms2ger> luisbg, yep, it's called watching components
# [16:11] <luisbg> I can CC myself into bug threads, and search for bugs in the component
# [16:11] <glob> luisbg, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=component_watch
# [16:12] <luisbg> ooooh great!
# [16:12] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: please do :)
# [16:12] <luisbg> Ms2ger, thanks for that
# [16:12] <Ms2ger> np
# [16:12] <luisbg> bz, and gavin, thanks to you as well for the help
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# [16:12] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, still need to figure out a sensible way to do that
# [16:12] <ejpbruel> bz: SetChromeEventHandler is only called from very few places, but its not clear to me at all how any of those could be reached from TabChild::Init
# [16:12] <luisbg> I will be looking for a new mentored bug in the next few days
# [16:13] <@bz> ejpbruel: it's not clear to me either
# [16:14] <ejpbruel> bz: so, i can't figure it out from mxr. I'm currently unable to debug this code, and its not clear to you either. that makes me nervous :)
# [16:15] <ahal> tbsaunde: just fyi, if you don't want to use the in-tree python you can also do "cd testing/mozbase && python setup_development.py"
# [16:15] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, you're touching docshell? You should be nervous :)
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# [16:15] <davidb> ahal: what does that do?
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# [16:16] <ahal> davidb: just installs all the mozbase packages locally
# [16:16] <davidb> ahal: can you point me at docs?
# [16:16] <davidb> ok
# [16:16] <ahal> I would recommend looking into using virtualenv though
# [16:16] <ahal> as python + packages + dependencies can give you major headaches down the road
# [16:16] <@bz> ejpbruel: All of this code should be making you very nervous.
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# [16:16] <davidb> ahal: which is mach right?
# [16:16] <ahal> davidb: mach just does it all for you
# [16:16] <davidb> ok
# [16:16] <ejpbruel> bz: so heres another hypothesis
# [16:17] <ahal> so you don't have to worry about any of these python things
# [16:17] <davidb> wfm
# [16:17] <ahal> I was just mentioning to tbsaunde as he said he prefers to not use mach
# [16:17] <davidb> ok
# [16:17] <ejpbruel> bz: is it possible that TabChild::Init somehow fails early inside ::AddChromeListeners without crashing? or would we notice that later on?
# [16:18] <ejpbruel> bz: nsWebBrowser::Create does not have an error check for nsDocShellTreeOwner::AddChromeListeners
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# [16:18] <tbsaunde> ahal: hm, interesting
# [16:18] <ejpbruel> bz: which could conceivably fail because GetWebBrowserChrome returns NULL, for instance (I'm not sure if thats the case though, just an idea)
# [16:18] <@bz> That's the only way I can see it happening
# [16:18] <@bz> and that seems ... unlikely
# [16:19] <@bz> one sec
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# [16:19] <@bz> So
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# [16:20] <ejpbruel> bz: doesn't seem to be the case, tab child sets itself as the container window, which also sets web browser chromes, which tab child implements as an interface
# [16:20] <@bz> <iframe remote="true">
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# [16:20] <@bz> In chrome
# [16:20] <@bz> should give you a setup with a tabchild etc
# [16:20] <@bz> on desktop
# [16:20] <@bz> At least afaict
# [16:21] <@bz> (xul iframe, that is)
# [16:21] <ejpbruel> i should be able to add that to the xul file for my test and trigger a breakpoint that way, right?
# [16:21] <@bz> Seems like it to me, yes
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# [16:23] <padenot> why would today's nightly locks up and spend 87% of it's time in fork()?
# [16:23] <padenot> on startup
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# [16:24] <ejpbruel> bz: doesn't seem to work
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# [16:25] <jesup> padenot: It's looking for the knife and spoon. Seriously: sounds bad. Linux?
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# [16:25] <avih> rnewman: ping
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# [16:26] <avih> rnewman: re uplifting bug 749894, do you want me to nominate it?
# [16:27] <padenot> jesup: yes, linux
# [16:27] <padenot> attaching gdb atm
# [16:27] <ejpbruel> bz: tried it with: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2244922
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# [16:30] <padenot> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2244924, doing NPAPI stuff apparently
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# [16:32] <@bz> Oh, crap
# [16:32] <padenot> actually, checking if Java is enabled
# [16:33] <@bz> ejpbruel: What happened in nsFrameLoader::ShouldUseRemoteProcess ?
# [16:33] <@bz> IE is changing its UA string... :(
# [16:34] <jimm> link?
# [16:35] <ejpbruel> bz: ah, that returns true
# [16:35] <ejpbruel> sorry
# [16:35] <ejpbruel> false
# [16:35] <ejpbruel> i always get those two mixed up
# [16:35] <TheOne> glob: thank you for the fastest fix ever (bug 854412). sorry, I am unfamiliar with the bmo release cycle, when will this being pushed to prod?
# [16:35] <@bz> ejpbruel: ok, why does it return false? ;)
# [16:36] <ejpbruel> trying to figure that out now
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# [16:37] <Ms2ger> jimm, http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/screen%20109.jpg
# [16:37] <Ms2ger> Is the new one
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# [16:38] <glob> TheOne, late wednesday/early thursday
# [16:38] <glob> TheOne (weekly)
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# [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd563ebad556 - Christian Holler - Bug 852476 - Fix Valgrind annotations in nsPresArena.cpp. r=mats
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# [16:38] <TheOne> glob: great, thanks again!
# [16:39] <@bz> jimm: what ms2ger posted
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# [16:42] <ejpbruel> bz: well, first question should be *which* nsFrameLoader::ShouldUseRemoteProcess shouldn't return false (its called about a dozen times)
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# [16:44] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
# [16:45] <@bsmedberg> jesup: pong
# [16:45] <jesup> So the nsThread thing is up for review to you (I assume the wine has worn off now ;-)
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# [16:46] <jesup> I did a Try and retriggered M2 and C about 150 times with no thread leaks
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# [16:47] <@khuey> lol
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# [16:47] <@khuey> not only did one Caltrain hit someone this morning
# [16:47] <@khuey> another one caught fire
# [16:47] * @khuey is glad he gave up on going to MV early today
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# [16:48] <jesup> bsmedberg: Which isn't definitive, but given the frequency of this leak is pretty good. And I'm pretty certain of my analysis of the existing impl being inherently leak-risky for upconverted threads (and can cause very temporary pileups for normal nsThreads probably)
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# [16:49] <joe> khuey: good lord
# [16:49] <jesup> I have 2-3" of wet snow this morning. Pretty on the daffodils. No train fires however.
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> gavin, if a train caught fire over there, the fire would die from the snow?
# [16:49] <@bz> jesup: heh
# [16:49] <Callek> khuey: and you people tell me california public transit is pretty damn good
# [16:49] <Callek> :-p
# [16:50] <joe> Callek: by american standards
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> Callek, ... for the US
# [16:50] <@khuey> Callek: by North American standards its not bad
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [16:50] <Ms2ger> Anyone else?
# [16:50] * @bsmedberg has a good 8 inches of snow and it's supposed to be a foot or more by this afternoon :-(
# [16:50] <@khuey> Callek: think of it this way, Caltrain is from the 1970s, the MBTA commuter rail is from the 1940s
# [16:50] <Callek> Boston public transit isn't that bad :-P
# [16:50] <Callek> but yea, the public transit I've barely touched in my brief trip to Europe was 20x better
# [16:50] <@khuey> when you're visiting a friend who lives on the green line its pretty terrible
# [16:51] <jesup> NYC public transit is pretty good. It's pretty much the only reasonable transit there....
# [16:51] <Callek> yea, never taken the green line :-P Also its improved a lot
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# [16:51] <@bz> Callek: Boston public transit is ... variable
# [16:51] * jesup grew up partly in NYC
# [16:51] <edmorley> As much as Londoners like to complain about the tube, it's actually pretty good most of the time
# [16:51] <Callek> bz: I guess thats fair
# [16:52] <@bz> Callek: Trying to get from Brookline to the Science Museum on public transit is an exercise in tear-your-hair-out insanity
# [16:52] <@bz> Callek: because you have to transfer from D to E
# [16:52] <@bz> Callek: and oh, incidentally the E runs like twice an hour
# [16:52] <ahal> edmorley: yeah, imagine if london only had 3 underground lines
# [16:53] <@bz> Callek: and should you make the mistake of doing it at Government Center, you get to deal with the screechies
# [16:53] <ahal> then you get toronto
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# [16:53] <Ms2ger> edmorley, the Jubilee line didn't break down today? :)
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# [16:54] <@khuey> ahal: imagine if it only had 1 like SF ;-)
# [16:54] <Callek> bz: only transit other than my own I've gone to science museum on was duck-boat
# [16:54] <Callek> hehe
# [16:54] <ahal> khuey: yeah, but at least SF is small
# [16:54] <edmorley> Ms2ger: :-)
# [16:54] <Ms2ger> edmorley, [insert "today was a good day" meme]
# [16:55] <edmorley> lol
# [16:55] <edmorley> I didn't think it was that bad
# [16:55] <edmorley> I take it you've had different experiences?
# [16:55] * froydnj laughs/cries at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846629#c4
# [16:55] <Ms2ger> It wasn't that bad, actually
# [16:56] <Ms2ger> I must have some French blood, though, I love taunting Brits
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# [16:56] <mconnor> I love London transport
# [16:56] <mconnor> I long for the day where Toronto gets something like TfL, instead of leaving politicians to decide between cars and transit
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# [17:00] <@bz> mconnor: Let me tell you my London transport horror story... ;)
# [17:00] <@bz> mconnor: I was trying to take the Picadilly line to Heathrow
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# [17:00] <@bz> mconnor: but they're doing construction on it on the weekends
# [17:00] <@bz> mconnor: so it only ran from downtown to X and then from Y to Heathrow
# [17:00] <mconnor> bz: oh boy
# [17:00] <@bz> mconnor: for some values of X and Y I don't recall
# [17:00] <@bz> mconnor: with a replacement bus service in between
# [17:01] <mconnor> oh, um, no
# [17:01] <@bz> mconnor: So the minor issue was that they made you pay separately for the two bits
# [17:01] <mconnor> that's when you say "fuck it" and take Heathrow Express
# [17:01] <@bz> mconnor: That would have required some interesting rerouting
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# [17:01] <@bz> mconnor: since they don't bother telling you any of this until you're on the train
# [17:01] <mconnor> bz: oh, lovely
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# [17:02] <@bz> mconnor: but the major issue was that the driver of the bus had no idea where he was going
# [17:02] <mconnor> oh, uh, great
# [17:02] <@bz> mconnor: the passengers who knew the area had to get him unlost at least 5 times over the course of the 4 stops he was supposed to be covering
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# [17:02] <@bz> mconnor: Good thing I wasn't the only one on that bus. ;)
# [17:02] <@bz> mconnor: eventually he got some friend with a maps app on the phone
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# [17:02] <mconnor> oof
# [17:03] <@bz> mconnor: and just drove following the directions from that
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# [17:03] <@bz> mconnor: afaict
# [17:03] <@bz> mconnor: it was pretty hilarious, and also took about an extra hour
# [17:03] <@bz> mconnor: the only good news was that I had the built-in padding that it wasn't an issue
# [17:03] <@bz> mconnor: (because if I'd missed that flight, who knows when the hell I would have gotten home)
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# [17:04] <mconnor> that's such a great feeling
# [17:04] <@bz> heh
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# [17:04] <@bz> The really great feeling I had recently like that was getting to a gate 5 mins after it was supposed to close
# [17:04] <mconnor> "well, the next flight to anywhere in NA is in 12 hours"
# [17:04] <@bz> and discovering they hadn't started boarding yet
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# [17:04] <@bz> mconnor: lol
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# [17:05] <@bz> mconnor: This was the weekend after the big snowstorm
# [17:05] <@bz> mconnor: next flight would have been at least 48 hours
# [17:05] <@bz> mconnor: likely more
# [17:05] <mconnor> dang
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# [17:05] <mconnor> I had a connect where my flight from AMS pushed back after it was supposed to land in London
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# [17:05] <mconnor> Heathrow is a _really_ big airport to jog through
# [17:06] <@bz> mconnor: in the event, 24 hours later would have been ok too, perhaps
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# [17:06] <@bz> mconnor: since once I got to NY I was stuck there anyway...
# [17:06] <@bz> mconnor: heh
# [17:06] <@bz> mconnor: yeah, fast connections at Heathrow are no fun
# [17:06] <@bz> mconnor: s/fast //
# [17:06] <mconnor> especially back in 2006, when I was in... less good shape
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# [17:07] <mconnor> the best part was the service director's response when I was all like "oh good, I made it" as I stumbled onto the plane: "you had lots of time!" *looks at watch* "oh my god we're behind schedule"
# [17:07] <@bz> mconnor: lol
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# [17:09] <ejpbruel> bz: looks like ShouldUseRemoteProcess is not the problem
# [17:09] <ejpbruel> bz: WARNING: Couldn't create child process for iframe.: file /Users/ejpbruel/Projects/mozilla-central/content/base/src/nsFrameLoader.cpp, line 425
# [17:09] <baku> Ms2ger, what's the difference between Attr.webidl and that Attribute you were talking about?
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> baku, oh, Attr.webidl exists already?
# [17:09] <baku> yep
# [17:09] <Ms2ger> baku, though it probably comes from the spec...
# [17:09] <edmorley> bz: the locals typically subscribe to the weekly "what engineering work s going on this weekend" email (or else look at the tfl website), but can imagine how that was a nightmare
# [17:10] <Ms2ger> The spec describes the long term view
# [17:10] <@smaug> Attr.webidl isn't in Webidl.mk
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# [17:10] <Ms2ger> smaug, but I believe it's checked in
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# [17:10] <Ms2ger> baku, so you just want to replace Attr.webidl with a translation of nsIDOMAttr.idl
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# [17:11] * @smaug guesses jst added Attr.webidl during Paris bindings work week
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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# [17:12] <Ms2ger> Yep: https://hg.mozilla.org/users/jst_mozilla.com/dom-bindings/rev/42a84203d462
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# [17:14] <@bz> Is there some way to run python so that iteration over dicts and sets explicitly does random order?
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# [17:14] <ejpbruel> bz: so nsFrameLoader::TryRemoteBrowser fails because this test fails: parentType != nsIDocShellTreeItem::typeChrome
# [17:14] <Ms2ger> bz, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7785672/how-to-iterate-through-dict-in-random-order-in-python ?
# [17:14] <ejpbruel> bz: am I somehow creating my iframe from the wrong place?
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# [17:15] <@khuey> bz: I don't think so
# [17:15] <@khuey> bz: that would be too easy
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# [17:17] <@bz> ejpbruel: looking
# [17:17] <@bz> ejpbruel: er... how are you loading this xul page?
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# [17:18] <@bz> ejpbruel: I guess you also need a type="content" on the iframe, btw
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# [17:18] <@bz> khuey: :(
# [17:18] <ejpbruel> bz: i just added the iframe to the xul file for my test: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2244922
# [17:18] <@bz> Ms2ger: no, I have existing code that iterates
# [17:18] <@bz> ejpbruel: oh, that won't work
# [17:18] <@bz> ejpbruel: because our tests don't run as chrome
# [17:19] <ejpbruel> bz: um. isnt this supposed to be a chrome test?
# [17:19] <@bz> ejpbruel: Surprise!
# [17:19] <@khuey> bz: see comment in the bug
# [17:19] <@bz> ejpbruel: chrome mochitests don't run in a chrome docshell
# [17:19] <NeilAway> bz: well, could have been worse, could have been "like WebKit" ;-)
# [17:19] <ejpbruel> bz: wat
# [17:19] <ejpbruel> bz: so what should I do?
# [17:19] <@bz> NeilAway: Actually, the bigger problem is "ie" vs "msie"
# [17:20] <@bz> ejpbruel: window.open a new window with the "chrome" flag
# [17:20] <@bz> ejpbruel: and do everything you care about in there
# [17:20] <@bz> ejpbruel: which is what every single docshell chrome mochitest has to end up doing....
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# [17:20] <@bz> khuey: if we can fix this in the build system, so much the better
# [17:20] <ejpbruel> bz: i was wondering why they did that in the first place...
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# [17:20] <@bz> ejpbruel: because that's the only way to get a chrome docshell in a "chrome" mochitest
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# [17:21] <ejpbruel> /O\
# [17:21] <@bz> ejpbruel: "we have bugs on this"
# [17:21] <@bz> ejpbruel: And yes, I know, it's insane. I'm sorry. :(
# [17:21] <@bz> NeilAway: because that's going to make life insanely miserable
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# [17:21] <@bz> NeilAway: it'll be like the bug CapitalOne used to have, but worse
# [17:22] <@bz> NeilAway: Because they sniffed for "ie" but could switch to sniffing for "msie"
# [17:22] <@bz> NeilAway: but now "ie" will be the thing to sniff for. :(
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# [17:24] <@khuey> bz: well we can fix the immediate problem
# [17:25] <@khuey> bz: non-determistic code generation is still an issue, imo
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# [17:25] <@bz> khuey: yeah
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# [17:25] <@bz> khuey: I'm all ears on how we can avoid that. :(
# [17:25] <@bz> khuey: I mean... we'd need to prevent enumeration of sets and dicts somehow, basically
# [17:25] <froydnj> can we have the parser just use sorted dicts all the time?
# [17:25] <@khuey> if I knew I would tell you
# [17:26] <@bz> froydnj: It's not just the parser.
# [17:26] <@bz> froydnj: And what do you mean by "use"?
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# [17:27] <@khuey> bz: we could subclass dict with something that provides stable iteration
# [17:27] <@khuey> and just use that
# [17:27] <froydnj> bz: well, eyeballing Codegen, we never construct dicts that we iterate over
# [17:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d20bf3793eb2 - L. David Baron - Bug 849657 patch 2: Change internal uses of 'CssFloat' to 'Float'. r=bzbarsky
# [17:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb8d19e9c838 - L. David Baron - Bug 849657 patch 1: Expose CSS_PROP_PUBLIC_OR_PRIVATE macro to users of nsCSSPropList.h rather than CSS_PROP_DOMPROP_PREFIXED, so that we can avoid 'CssFloat' spreading
# [17:28] <froydnj> bz: and the parser could just always use the stable-iteration dict thing (provided somewhere in the stdlib) whenever it needs a dict
# [17:28] <firebot> even further. r=bzbarsky
# [17:28] <froydnj> ideally there'd be an analogue for sets in the stdlib too
# [17:29] <froydnj> khuey: collections.OrderedDict
# [17:29] <froydnj> sadly, collections doesn't have an OrderedSet
# [17:30] <ejpbruel> bz: isn't TabChild::Init called from the remote process?
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# [17:30] <Callek> froydnj: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1653970/does-python-have-an-ordered-set
# [17:30] <Yoric> Is there a simple way to detect whether some code is executed from a xpcshell test?
# [17:31] <Callek> froydnj: khuey from that page: "The keys of a dictionary are unique. Thus, if one disregards the values in an ordered dictionary (e.g. by assigning them None), then one has essentially an ordered set."
# [17:31] <froydnj> Callek: thanks
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# [17:35] <ejpbruel> khuey: could you help here, perhaps?
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# [17:35] <@bz> froydnj: hmm
# [17:35] <joe> dbaron: burning on your push
# [17:35] <ejpbruel> khuey: I'm creating a remote iframe and want to trigger a breakpoint in TabChild::Init in the resulting child process. i need some way to attach gdb to the child process before the breakpoint triggers
# [17:35] <@bz> ejpbruel: remote process, yes
# [17:35] <@dbaron> joe, looking
# [17:36] <ejpbruel> bz: see above question, too ^
# [17:36] <@bz> ejpbruel: I don't know how to sanely debug it. :(
# [17:36] <ejpbruel> bz: id settle for an insane solution :)
# [17:36] <@dbaron> joe, doesn't really look like me
# [17:36] <@khuey> ejpbruel: MOZ_CHILD_PROCESS_DEBUG=1
# [17:36] <joe> edmorley: do you object to me doing a merge of aed1da04448d to central?
# [17:36] <@dbaron> joe, er, no, I guess it does
# [17:36] <@khuey> ejpbruel: er
# [17:36] <ejpbruel> khuey: what will that do exactly?
# [17:36] <@khuey> ejpbruel: MOZ_DEBUG_CHILD_PROCESS=1
# [17:37] <@khuey> ejpbruel: we dump the pid to the terminal and sleep for 30s
# [17:37] <@khuey> to give you a chance to attach
# [17:37] <edmorley> joe: sgtm
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# [17:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3178d9b2406d - L. David Baron - Bug 849657: Fix bustage from changeset eb8d19e9c838.
# [17:38] <@dbaron> joe, fixed
# [17:38] <joe> :)
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# [17:38] * @dbaron wishes all compilers made that an error rather than just some of them
# [17:39] <joe> oh, yeah
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# [17:40] <ejpbruel> khuey: thanks
# [17:40] <@khuey> np
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# [17:42] <@dbaron> or maybe that was warnings-as-errors?
# [17:42] <ejpbruel> khuey: if i set that as an environment variable and then do this, it should work, right?
# [17:42] <ejpbruel> TEST_PATH=docshell/test/chrome/test_bug846906.xul make -C obj-x64-debug mochitest-chrome
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# [17:43] <ejpbruel> Yoric: sorry modules is taking so long :)
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# [17:44] <ejpbruel> Yoric: i had a hard time getting reviews for a while, and all my patches got bit rotted, so i switched to doing some other stuff for a while
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# [17:44] <ejpbruel> Yoric: the spec is also still changing as we speak, which doesn't help
# [17:44] <Yoric> ejpbruel: Will it motivate you if I offer a photo of croissants for the team whenever you manage to complete this? :)
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# [17:44] <Yoric> (I could offer real ones, but they might not be very fresh by the time they reach you)
# [17:44] <@khuey> ejpbruel: that's the idea, yes
# [17:44] <ejpbruel> Yoric: naaa, i intend to get back to this asap :)
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# [17:45] <Yoric> Cool :)
# [17:45] <ejpbruel> khuey: hmm, child process still seems to spawn immediately, and i don't see any id being dumped
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# [17:47] <@khuey> ejpbruel: try EXTRA_TEST_ARGS=--setenv=MOZ_DEBUG_CHILD_PROCESS=1
# [17:47] <@khuey> or however htat works?
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# [17:47] <@khuey> (on the command line)
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# [17:48] <ejpbruel> oh hold on
# [17:48] <ejpbruel> there might be a non-zero probability that i am an idiot
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# [17:53] <@bz> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
# [17:53] <@bz> If I click on the "seamonkey-2.16a1.en-US.mac.dmg"
# [17:53] <@bz> And select the "Open with" option...
# [17:53] * joe holds himself back on generating new nightlies before builds have come back on merge to m-c
# [17:53] <@bz> My Firefox nightly goes into some sort of gfx death spiral
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# [17:54] <@bz> uses gigabytes of RAM and swaps (on a 16GB machine!)
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# [17:54] <@bz> Sampling claims it's all time under CGLFlushDrawable
# [17:54] <@bz> joe: ^
# [17:54] <joe> what's the full callstack?
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# [17:55] <@bz> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2245134
# [17:55] <@bz> joe: ^
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# [17:55] <@bz> joe: normal painting codepath
# [17:55] <joe> yeah
# [17:55] <@bz> joe: presumably something to do with that download manager button
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# [17:55] <joe> posisbly
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# [17:56] <joe> bz: hm, interestingly I don't have the same problem.
# [17:56] <@bz> joe: I don't see it either if I just start a clean nightly with an empty profile
# [17:56] <joe> huh
# [17:57] <@bz> joe: I certainly see it in my normal browsing session
# [17:57] <joe> can you pastebin your about:support?
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# [17:57] <@bz> joe: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2245135
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# [17:58] <joe> bz: hm, nothing that looks terribly unusual
# [17:58] <joe> er
# [17:58] <joe> you have 39 windows open?!
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# [17:59] * @khuey is going to do a parody of Everyday I'm Hustlin'
# [17:59] <@khuey> it's going to be called Everyday I'm Clobberin'
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# [17:59] <edmorley> khuey: we should make you a build peer and give you the task of fixing it... :-)
# [18:00] <froydnj> HULK CLOBBER
# [18:00] <Callek> edmorley: khuey a build peer, blasphemy
# [18:00] <Callek> edmorley: make him the owner, that'll show him
# [18:00] <annevk> Maybe on odd days Firefox Nightly should ship without sending a User-Agent header
# [18:00] <annevk> And then we can issue a challenge to make your site work on those nightlies
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# [18:00] <Callek> annevk: so so evil.
# [18:01] <Callek> makes me shudder even thinking about that
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# [18:01] <annevk> I guess the joke would be mostly on those dealing with incoming Nightly bug reports
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# [18:01] <@bz> joe: yes
# [18:01] <joe> i wonder if that's related
# [18:01] <@bz> joe: could well be!
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# [18:03] <@bz> joe: yeah
# [18:03] <@bz> joe: if I start a nightly on a blank profile
# [18:04] <@bz> joe: open a bunch of windows
# [18:04] <@bz> joe: then try to download
# [18:04] <@bz> joe: it all goes to hell
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# [18:04] <@bz> joe: also, opening 30 windows took a _long_ time
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# [18:06] <@bz> same issue in a build from Jan 1
# [18:06] <@bz> What gives?
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# [18:06] <@bz> joe: want a bug report?
# [18:06] * @bz could have sworn he'd downloaded something since Jan 1....
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# [18:07] <joe> bz: possibly; put it in graphics: layers I suppose
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# [18:08] <@bz> joe: ok
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# [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44cf42a8e6e5 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 853067 - Do not define the parallel array global in beta, release, or esr builds (yet) r=sfink
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# [18:10] <ejpbruel> success!
# [18:11] <@bz> Oh?
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# [18:12] <ejpbruel> bz: i managed to set a breakpoint in TabChild::Init
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# [18:13] <ejpbruel> bz: SetChromeListeners does *not* seem to be called from there though
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# [18:13] <ejpbruel> sorry, SetChromeEventHandler(
# [18:13] <@bz> ejpbruel: interesting
# [18:13] <@bz> ejpbruel: Well, what happens when you get to the GetChromeEventHandler caller?
# [18:13] <ejpbruel> bz: lets see
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# [18:14] <@bz> What does "top(none)
# [18:14] <@bz> mean under window-objects in about:memory?
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# [18:16] <ejpbruel> bz: so, for some crazy reason, GetDOMEventTarget(mWebBrowser, getter_AddRefs(target)); does not yield a NULL target in this case
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# [18:17] <@bz> ejpbruel: mmm
# [18:17] <@bz> why not?
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# [18:18] <@khuey> bz: windows that are no longer in a docshell tree, iirc
# [18:19] <@khuey> bz: should be top(none)/detatched/window(stuff)
# [18:19] <@khuey> or something like that
# [18:19] <@bz> khuey: hmm
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# [18:19] <@bz> khuey: I hate googleplus
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# [18:19] <@khuey> haha
# [18:19] * @bz has 650MB of "detached" windows
# [18:19] <@khuey> adblock plus ftw
# [18:19] <@bz> Of those, 199MB are system
# [18:19] <@khuey> do you use google reader?
# [18:19] <@bz> and 444MB are all plusone
# [18:19] <@bz> yes
# [18:19] <@bz> I should top
# [18:19] <@bz> er, stop
# [18:20] <@bz> esp. given the future
# [18:20] <@khuey> well the "system" ones are probably just about:blank
# [18:20] <@khuey> but yeah, this is a known problem with reader
# [18:20] <Yoric> yzen: By the way, once you are done with your current work, I have bug 854169 specially for you :)
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# [18:20] <@bz> but reloading that page does not make these go away
# [18:20] <@bz> (it used to!)
# [18:20] <@khuey> bug 750048
# [18:20] <@khuey> etc
# [18:20] <@khuey> mmm that's interesting
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# [18:20] <@bz> oh, here we go
# [18:21] <@bz> I had to minimize twice
# [18:21] <@bz> after the reload
# [18:21] <@bz> and then it got happy
# [18:21] <@bz> "happier"
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# [18:21] <yzen> Yoric: fun, i can take a look while i m gathering telemetry for os file backup
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# [18:21] <Ms2ger> Fortunately, we won't have to care about google reader anymore
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# [18:22] <ejpbruel> bz: fwiw, when being called from nsAppShellService::CreateWindowlessDocShell, GetDomEventTarget fails on this line:
# [18:22] <ejpbruel> bz: inBrowser->GetContentDOMWindow(getter_AddRefs(domWindow));
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# [18:22] <ejpbruel> bz:does that tell you anything?
# [18:23] <@bz> mmm
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# [18:23] <@bz> It tells me there is no window?
# [18:23] <@bz> Which seems bad
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# [18:25] <ejpbruel> bz: the only way GetContentDOMWindow can fail is if nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMWindow> retval = do_GetInterface(mDocShell, &rv); fails
# [18:25] <ejpbruel> how can that be?
# [18:25] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, or if mDocShell is null
# [18:26] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: NS_ENSURE_STATE(mDocShell); would catch that
# [18:26] <Ms2ger> Right
# [18:26] <ejpbruel> oh i see
# [18:26] <ejpbruel> and then return NULL
# [18:26] <Ms2ger> Then it return NS_ERROR_FAILURE
# [18:26] <ejpbruel> yeah
# [18:27] <ejpbruel> no, mDocShell is not NULL
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# [18:27] <ejpbruel> I'm starting to think this bug is somehow caused by the fact that i have a stub implementation for this:
# [18:27] <ejpbruel> browser->SetContainerWindow(stub);
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# [18:27] <Ms2ger> EnsureScriptEnvironment failing?
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# [18:30] <ejpbruel> bz: Ms2ger: does nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMWindow> retval = do_GetInterface(mDocShell, &rv); somehow rely on the nsIWebBrowserChrome2 interface i set with browser->SetContainerWindow(stub); ?
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# [18:33] <JosiahOne> mconley: Ping.
# [18:33] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: yeah, that function *is* failing
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# [18:33] <ejpbruel> good call
# [18:33] <Ms2ger> Oh, huh
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# [18:34] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: nsCOMPtr<nsIWebBrowserChrome> browserChrome(do_GetInterface(mTreeOwner)) fails
# [18:34] <ejpbruel> i think mTreeOwner is that stub object i created
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# [18:34] <ejpbruel> so it somehow fails to implement nsIWebBrowserChrome
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> 301 bz
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# [18:35] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: could you take a look at that code and double check if I'm defining it right?
# [18:35] <mconley> JosiahOne: pong
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# [18:35] <Ms2ger> Sure
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# [18:36] <@bz> ejpbruel: link to your code?
# [18:36] <ejpbruel> bz: Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2245259 look at WebBrowserChrome2Stub
# [18:37] <ejpbruel> i think that becomes the tree owner when I do browser->SetContainerWindow(stub);
# [18:37] <JosiahOne> mconley: What did you use to detect if we are on the "main" browser window. I need to move buttons down on the main window only, right now it's re-positioning on every window.
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> Oh
# [18:37] <Ms2ger> No, not it
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# [18:38] <JosiahOne> mconley: Is this it? drawsContentsIntoWindowFrame
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# [18:38] <mconley> JosiahOne: yes, that's one way of doing it
# [18:38] <mconley> JosiahOne: probably the best of way of doing it, actually
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# [18:38] <JosiahOne> mconley: Alrighty then. Thanks!
# [18:38] <mconley> JosiahOne: np!
# [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b508d11a791 - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 2: Update profiler calls. r=jrmuizel
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# [18:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf04a3230bfe - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 3: Rename headers. r=jrmuizel
# [18:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a428deb3fa9a - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 4: Split out GeckoProfilerFunc.h & PseudoStack.h. r=jrmuizel
# [18:39] <@bz> ejpbruel: I suspect that your thing needs to implement nsIInterfaceRequestor
# [18:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99e09a7e03e6 - Benoit Girard - Bug 851611 - Part 1: Refactor profiler interface. r=jrmuizel
# [18:39] <@bz> ejpbruel: or some such
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# [18:39] <ejpbruel> hm
# [18:39] <@bz> ejpbruel: compare nsDocShellTreeOwner::SetWebBrowserChrome and nsDocShellTreeOwner::GetInterface
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# [18:39] <@bz> ejpbruel: and consider what happens when the latter is called with the IID of nsIWebBrowserChrome
# [18:40] <ejpbruel> bz: ok, ill look into it. but dinner first :)
# [18:40] <ejpbruel> bz: Ms2ger: thanks for your help so far today guys
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a2dd29511b5 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 852850 - Remove the faily test_image_layers.html mochitest. r=joe
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# [18:54] <joe> gonna trigger a nightly on latest merge for greater visibility
# [18:54] <joe> objections?
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# [18:55] <tanvi> firebot: !seen smaug
# [18:55] <firebot> smaug was last seen 61 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying 'annevk: yes. I've been thinking that today' in #content.
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# [18:56] <@smaug> tanvi: ?
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# [19:00] <tanvi> smaug: hey! i cleaned up the mochitests in bug 840388. do you think you will have a chance to look at them today?
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# [19:02] <@smaug> tanvi: I'll try
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# [19:04] <tanvi> thanks smaug!
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# [19:04] <Enn> why do I get an error 'No module named mozcrash' when running mochitest?
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# [19:05] <Ms2ger> Enn, because you're not using mach
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# [19:05] <edmorley> Enn: you can't invoke using python; use make or mach
# [19:05] <Ms2ger> Enn, (or the virtualenv python)
# [19:05] <edmorley> or you end up without the virtual env set up
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# [19:06] <NeilAway> is there a way that we can detect that you're not using the virtualenv copy and exec it for you?
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# [19:06] <jhammel> NeilAway: not sure, but it would be worth a bug, iMHO
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# [19:07] <@smaug> Ms2ger: is using mach now a requirement when running mochitests?
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# [19:07] <jhammel> smaug: no
# [19:07] <Ms2ger> smaug, no, you can use make, or the virtualenv python, or install mozcrash globally
# [19:07] <jhammel> at least if it isn't...it probably shouldn't be yet
# [19:07] * @smaug doesn't know what mozcrash is
# [19:08] <Ms2ger> smaug, but still, might as well get used to it now, because I expect it will be at some point
# [19:08] <jhammel> smaug: utility for detecting crashes and printing a parseable trace
# [19:08] <jhammel> so where is this happening?
# [19:08] <jhammel> i should probably look at this
# [19:08] <jhammel> and/or delegate
# [19:08] <Callek> it affects all runs with automationutils atm
# [19:08] <Callek> iirc
# [19:08] <@smaug> python runtests.py doesn't seem to work anymore?
# [19:09] <Enn> where is the page or message that describes this change?
# [19:09] <ejpbruel> bz: that did the trick! no more crashing
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# [19:09] <@smaug> yeah, I don't see any documentation about this change
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# [19:10] <edmorley> Enn: I don't think it was ever a recommended method, but knowing us there's probably out of date docs on MDN
# [19:10] <@smaug> at least not in the newsgroups I follow
# [19:10] <Callek> jhammel: we can possibly use add_site* thing to src dir if its not importable right away (or to objdir venv)
# [19:10] <Callek> as a helper to local devs
# [19:10] <jhammel> Callek (etc):
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> const PRUnichar *name = PromiseFlatString(aValue).get();
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> Foo(name);
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# [19:10] <jhammel> so, runtests.py we i believe *should* point to the virtualenv python
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> How insane is that?
# [19:10] <jhammel> that should fix the problem right there, but...lemme try to figure out what is happening here
# [19:11] <jhammel> gps: ^
# [19:11] <@smaug> edmorley: what wasn't recommended? running python runtests.py certainly was the way to run tests at some point
# [19:11] <Mook_as> Ms2ger: wouldn't *name be dangling?
# [19:11] <edmorley> smaug: using anything other than make
# [19:11] <tbsaunde> jhammel: no, runtests.py in my objdir doesn't have a #!
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# [19:12] <Callek> jhammel: calling |python runtests.py| won't use the venv py anyway
# [19:12] <tbsaunde> jhammel: and since it hasn't for ages everyone runs python runtests.py
# [19:12] <Callek> aiui
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# [19:12] <jhammel> Callek: well, yes; but there's nothing doable about that; though it will if you use the virtualenv python
# [19:12] <Ms2ger> Mook_as, that's my question
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# [19:13] <Callek> jhammel: well you could cheat with http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/tools/buildfarm/maintenance/manage_masters.py#10
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# [19:13] <Callek> jhammel: which is what I was talking about
# [19:14] <@smaug> so the documentation says one should run tests using python runtests.py
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# [19:14] <jhammel> Callek: oh, on buildbot-side? i thought this was about running locally
# [19:14] <Ms2ger> smaug, which documentation? :)
# [19:15] <@smaug> Ms2ger: MDN
# [19:15] <Ms2ger> Link? :)
# [19:15] <Callek> jhammel: ooo it is about running locally
# [19:15] <jhammel> Callek: we could, but should not, do something similar-esque in-tree
# [19:15] <Callek> jhammel: I'm just pointing at the site.addsitedir magic you could use in runtests.py to point at the local mozcrash in src/venv
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# [19:15] <jhammel> but right now i'm trying to figure out what the problem is
# [19:15] <@smaug> Ms2ger: well, ok, there is the make version mentioned too
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# [19:15] <@smaug> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Browser_chrome_tests for example
# [19:15] <Callek> jhammel: for when mozcrash is not importable
# [19:15] <jhammel> since it actually is only tagential to what i've worked on
# [19:16] <@smaug> mach isn't mentioned at all
# [19:16] <Ms2ger> I'll fix that
# [19:16] * @smaug has used mach twice so far :)
# [19:16] <Ms2ger> The runtests.py suggestion is for pre-1.9.1, btw ;)
# [19:16] <jhammel> Ms2ger: thank ya
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# [19:17] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I don't suppose you could do a massive favour and update some of the other suites too? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Automated_testing
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# [19:17] <yzen> Yoric: so did you want me to take that one ?
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# [19:18] <Ms2ger> edmorley, grmbl
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# [19:21] <jlebar> smaug: Suppose I have JS which does x = new Date(); wait for an nsITimer with a 100ms delay; y = new Date(). Do you know what is the smallest value I might expect for y - x? I'm seeing values as small as 72ms.
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# [19:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b734d6f2fea - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 848719: URL Bar corruption with dyn-toolbar. [r=mfinkle]
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# [19:23] <@smaug> jlebar: dunno
# [19:23] <@smaug> bz_away has been fighting more with timers
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# [19:23] <jlebar> smaug: Okay, I'll ask him. Thanks.
# [19:23] <@smaug> avih might know too
# [19:24] <jlebar> bz_away: consider yourself pinged!
# [19:24] <Yoric> yzen: Well, just saying that if you are looking for a difficult one, this one is good.
# [19:24] <sfink> philor: that aurora as beta jseng breakage you pointed me to over the weekend -- it looks like the build failure has been fixed. Should I look into any of the other wreckage, like the reftest failures?
# [19:24] <jlebar> bz_away: Here's the query: Suppose I have JS which does x = new Date(); wait for an nsITimer with a 100ms delay; y = new Date(). Do you know what is the smallest value I might expect for y - x? I'm seeing values as small as 72ms.
# [19:24] <yzen> Yoric: ill assign to myself :)
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# [19:25] <jhammel> i'm building and looking and going to lunch but am building and trying to figure out what precisely is the issue here
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# [19:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53612d6a71dd - Steve Fink - Static rooting analysis updates for browser. No bug. r=NPOTB
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# [19:32] <mounir> philor: ping
# [19:33] <mounir> benjamin: ping
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# [19:35] <romaxa> benjamin, ping
# [19:35] <benjamin> romaxa: pong
# [19:35] <mounir> benjamin: are you Benjamin Peterson?
# [19:35] <benjamin> yes
# [19:35] <romaxa> benjamin, oh sorry wrong benjamin
# [19:35] <romaxa> bsmedberg, ping
# [19:35] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: pong
# [19:35] <mounir> benjamin: could you tell me why you backed out my patch in bug 854117?
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# [19:36] <benjamin> mounir: did you see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854117#c4 ?
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# [19:37] <mounir> with all due respect, comment 4 is useless
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# [19:37] <mounir> there was *no* occurence of that random orange
# [19:37] <benjamin> iirc oth was red on some platform
# [19:37] <benjamin> timeouts perhaps?
# [19:37] <romaxa> bsmedberg, I'm trying to figure out one linking problem.... basically I have library which wrap Gecko Embedding with toolkit embedding (linked with xpcomglue and mozglue), and it works ok if I link my final application with that library....
# [19:38] <benjamin> it very well be not your fault
# [19:38] <mounir> benjamin: that is the information you should have included
# [19:38] <benjamin> I see there are two -tall
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# [19:38] <romaxa> bsmedberg, but when I dlopen that intermediate wrapper library inside target application, then I see nsCOmponentManager crashes on attmempt to use nsIDHashKeys
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# [19:39] <romaxa> bsmedberg, which endup with HasBytes functions defined in mfbt
# [19:39] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: this is with ELF linkage of some sort?
# [19:40] <@bsmedberg> I really am not sure how much use I can be, except that I don't actually know how mozglue works nowadays
# [19:40] <@bsmedberg> actually, I don't know what mozglue is at all
# [19:40] <@bsmedberg> so maybe glandium is the right person to answer your question...
# [19:40] <romaxa> bsmedberg, I found that all symbols like HashString are defined different way inside xpcom glue and that works ok
# [19:41] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: as long as they all have hidden visibility, it should be ok
# [19:41] <romaxa> bsmedberg, the only problem with HasBytes which is by some unkinown reason moved to mfbt and xpcomglue reference to that
# [19:41] <@bsmedberg> if any default-visibility symbols slipped through, then symbol name conflicts start to be really awful
# [19:41] <@bsmedberg> you mean HashBytes ?
# [19:41] <romaxa> bsmedberg, yep
# [19:41] <Mook_as> bug 763327, yep
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# [19:42] <romaxa> bsmedberg, any reason why do we do http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/HashFunctions.cpp#16 in such strange way
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# [19:42] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: it seems that the problem is that HashBytes is MFBT_API which is exported
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# [19:43] <romaxa> bsmedberg, btw IIUC we have internal version of xpcom glue internal which libxul.so directly linked with, but we don't link libxul.so with mfbt
# [19:43] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: what's strange?
# [19:43] <@smaug> joe: the next nightly is the first one which has multi-threaded decoding enabled?
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# [19:43] <joe> smaug: the one I just triggered, correct
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# [19:43] <@smaug> oh, there is a new one coming
# [19:44] <@smaug> ok, I'll update once that is ready
# [19:44] <romaxa> Waldo, ^
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# [19:45] <romaxa> Waldo, any reason why HashBytes not defined in xpcom glue same way as other functions, like HashString?
# [19:45] <Waldo> romaxa: both JS and Gecko use HashBytes, so it's in mfbt that both libraries can depend on; I know next to nothing of how/why the linking setup is exactly the way it is
# [19:45] <Waldo> romaxa: you want glandium :-)
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# [19:46] <romaxa> glandium, ^
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# [19:47] <philor> mounir: if you click on the date and time printed above any push to inbound, that'll load that push, with the URL ending in "&rev=cset-id" which will save you from having to remember that it's &rev=, and then you can copy the cset from where you pasted it when you landed, and see how your landing did
# [19:47] <philor> or, you can get snippy with someone who backed out your totally broken push for me, because I was watching the tree while I was at my job, where I don't have a tree
# [19:47] <romaxa> Waldo, where do we link mfbt with libxul.so?
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# [19:47] <philor> either one, your choice
# [19:48] <froydnj> Waldo: I'm assuming that you're going to push that TypeTraits.h tidyness patch and then I'll modify the IsIntegral patch as necessary to apply on top of it. sound good?
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# [19:48] <romaxa> bsmedberg, Waldo, for xpcomglue we have bunch of stuff related to internal/external glu, but it seems we don't have that for mfbt
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# [19:49] <Waldo> romaxa: I think mozglue links with mfbt, and xpcom links with mozglue
# [19:49] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: except for the standalone glue, which must not link against any sharedlibs
# [19:49] <@bsmedberg> I think that's romaxa's problem here
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# [19:50] <Waldo> bsmedberg: yeah, we're fast passing the point where I can say anything intelligent here, and be sure of my understanding
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# [19:50] <Waldo> romaxa: it is conceivable jlebar might have something to say here, as he implemented the hash stuff and I *think* figured out linking jazz, but I could be misremembering
# [19:51] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: the answer may be "disable nsIDHashKey when building the standalone glue" or something like that
# [19:51] <jlebar> Waldo: romaxa: Actually, glandium figured it all out for me. :)
# [19:52] <romaxa> jlebar, do you have link where he figured it out?
# [19:52] <Waldo> jlebar: that was my super-vague memory, but I wasn't confident enough to say for sure :-)
# [19:52] <edmorley|away> philor++
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# [19:53] <romaxa> bsmedberg, you mean do something like ifdef XPCOM_GLUE inside nsIDHashKey, or even disable that, so it will be only defined when actual libxul.so/xpcom.so preloaded ?
# [19:53] <Mook_as> romaxa: if it helps, http://hg.mozilla.org/pyxpcom/file/aa66aad6c5ab/xpcom/src/module/_xpcom.cpp#l278 seems to mostly work :| (by forcing a use of mozilla::HashBytes in my lib so that it gets exported)
# [19:53] <jlebar> romaxa: To answer your original question, HashBytes is defined in a cpp file, while HashString is defined in a .h file.
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# [19:53] <jlebar> romaxa: Neither of them is defined in xpcom glue, as far as I can tell.
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# [19:54] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: yeah, ifdef XPCOM_GLUE around nsIDHashKey, and don't link your binary against mozglue
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# [19:56] <romaxa> jlebar, oh ok will try both, _xpcom.cpp version and ifdef around nsIDHashKey... and check it out... probably will try to send for review XPCOM_GLUE version if that works
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# [19:56] <romaxa> jlebar, bsmedberg thanks
# [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7e1bb7d0e21 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 854117 - Re-enable test_resize_move_windows.html on Linux. rs=Ms2ger
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# [19:57] <jwir3> Ms2ger: Would a change of an attribute in an idl file from type 'nsISupports' to type 'nsIDOMDOMImplementation' warrant an iid change?
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# [19:58] <rnewman> thanks for reviewpatch, gavjn!
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# [19:59] <romaxa> bsmedberg, Waldo btw just checked libxul.so linking command line and cannot find mfbt or mozglue linking in there
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# [19:59] <firebot> Check-in:
# [19:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b9375365c0e - Jose Cortes - Bug 842186 - Update use of jsval with JS::Value in cpp and h files in the content/xul/ content/canvas/ content/xslt/ and content/xbl/ directories. r=jwalden
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# [20:00] <romaxa> bsmedberg, Waldo: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2245481
# [20:00] <glandium> romaxa: you need to link programs with mozglue on linux, and on non-linux, you need to link programs and libraries with mozglue
# [20:01] <glandium> romaxa: if mozglue is not with xpcomglue in the flags you get from pkg-config, please file a bug
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# [20:04] <Mook_as> jwir3: yes, because people might have passed around things that were not nsIDOMDOMImplementation before, right?
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# [20:05] <jwir3> Mook_as: I would have thought so, yes, but I'm not entirely sure. (It was uplifted without an IID change, and I'm wondering if a bug should be filed for it)
# [20:05] <romaxa> glandium, I have test runner environment which preload libs in runtime (for different libraries) and that is not supposed to be linked with particular library in ideal case
# [20:05] <ekr> is there an official way to turn nsresult into someting I can log?
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# [20:05] <ekr> Like a string or an integer or something
# [20:05] <romaxa> glandium, gecko rendering widget is basically QML plugin/extension
# [20:06] <@smaug> ekr: Wed at 10 PST sounds ok
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# [20:07] <romaxa> is cjones around or anyone who is familiar with MessageLoopUI and stuff?
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# [20:07] <stephend> anyone seen mayhemer?
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# [20:10] <romaxa> bsmedberg, are you familiar with this stuff http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/4d3250f3afea/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc#l100?
# [20:10] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: kinda
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# [20:10] <romaxa> bsmedberg, it seems we are failing here on attempt to Run/Quit two message loops in row
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# [20:10] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: two message loops?
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# [20:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/669d96cdd9ef - Jeff Walden - Add [specref] references to all the section-comments in TypeTraits.h, to further ease reading/searching. Followup to bug 853988, suggested by froydnj
# [20:11] <@smaug> um, m-i is broken: /usr/bin/ld/usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '--icf=safe'
# [20:12] <romaxa> bsmedberg, we do call pthread_setspecific on CTOR, and set it to NULL on DTOR, and if I create another MessaLoop in same thread process then it abort because pthread_setspecific return -22
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# [20:12] <@smaug> maybe clobber helps
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# [20:12] <tbsaunde> smaug: or --disable-icf?
# [20:13] <@smaug> what is icf ?
# [20:13] <romaxa> bsmedberg, I wonder should not we remove pthread slow completely on dtor instead of just setting it to NULL?
# [20:13] <romaxa> s/slow/slot
# [20:13] <froydnj> smaug: identical code folding
# [20:13] <sfink> smaug: I get that when I switch between ld.bfd and ld.gold
# [20:13] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: I don't think the messageloop code there was ever designed to do this
# [20:14] <@bsmedberg> romaxa: so... whatever works?
# [20:14] <froydnj> gold supports it, gnu ld does not
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# [20:15] <romaxa> bsmedberg, ok, I see, I'm trying to do run/shutdown EmbeddingLite UI loop for tests run, but ok, will try to check whatever works there
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# [20:17] <armenzg> jimm: how do I run the tests locally on the win8 machine?
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# [20:18] <jimm> armenzg: here's the command line:
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# [20:18] <jimm> TEST_PATH=browser/metro/base/tests pymake mochitest-metro-chrome
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# [20:20] <armenzg> jimm: I don't think we have pymake on the test machines
# [20:20] <armenzg> how do I get it?
# [20:20] <jimm> oh it's in the repo, you just have to reference it by path. I have it aliased
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# [20:21] <nmatsakis> philor: ping
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# [20:22] <philor> nmatsakis: pong
# [20:22] <jimm> armenzg: if you run into any unreliable tests that get in your way just let me know and I'll disable them
# [20:22] <armenzg> k
# [20:22] <nmatsakis> regarding bug 853303... can you tell me a bit about this tree=Profiling tbpl run?
# [20:22] <nmatsakis> philor^
# [20:22] <nmatsakis> philor: in particular, is it building from a branch?
# [20:22] <nmatsakis> or just inbound with different options?
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# [20:24] <philor> nmatsakis: it's ehsan's baby, he automatically merges mozilla-central into it, but knowing him, it's probably a git repo pulling from m-c and pushing to the profiling repo, and that might be where he messed up
# [20:25] <nmatsakis> philor: got it. I'll wait till he's around.
# [20:25] <philor> nmatsakis: the actual repo it builds from is https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/profiling/
# [20:25] <philor> if just looking in there will tell you
# [20:25] <nmatsakis> thanks
# [20:25] <cpeterson> gps: after bug 648681, I get the following mach exception when building Firefox for Android: "Exception: Binary expected at objdir-android/dist/bin/fennec does not exist." "fennec" is not the output binary on Android.
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# [20:29] <BenWa> nmatsakis: We build mozilla-central using profiling. Now the profiling builds branch builds without it
# [20:29] <nmatsakis> BenWa: in bug 853303, it was pointed out that some parallel array tests are failing. but those tests were removed on mozilla-inbound...
# [20:29] <nmatsakis> (rewritten and renamed, actually)
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# [20:29] <nmatsakis> ...so I was trying to figure out why that might be.
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# [20:31] <BenWa> nmatsakis: Right that means that the failure happens if we build mozilla-central without enable-profiling which is our REAL shipping confguration
# [20:31] <BenWa> philor: This isn't some git thing ehsan is doing
# [20:31] <philor> BenWa: are you sure about that?
# [20:31] <nmatsakis> BenWa: but those tests *don't exist* on mozilla-central. The files aren't there.
# [20:31] <nmatsakis> BenWa: I will double check though.
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# [20:31] <BenWa> nmatsakis: How well it's possible that ehsan' script has a bug
# [20:31] <philor> because it is some ehsan pulls m-c and merges it to profiling, and ehsan shoves git into the middle of any repo dealings he can :)
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# [20:32] <joe> sometimes more than once
# [20:32] <nmatsakis> BenWa: let me poke around a bit and see what I can find, now that philor pointed me at the repo
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# [20:33] <BenWa> That's possible but it's not indended to be some git bridge or anything like that
# [20:35] <nmatsakis> BenWa : actually, I am mistaken. those files do exist...but not in my checkout? I am very confused now.
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# [20:35] <BenWa> nmatsakis: If the two diverse it's certainly a bug in ehsan's script. If they don't then they are likely finding a real problem
# [20:36] <nmatsakis> BenWa: no, I was
# [20:36] <BenWa> nmatsakis: Any real problem they find will show up when merging to aurora
# [20:36] <nmatsakis> sorry, I was correct
# [20:36] <nmatsakis> they do not exist in mozilla-central
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# [20:36] <nmatsakis> nor mozilla-inboud
# [20:36] <nmatsakis> but only in the profiling branch
# [20:36] <BenWa> ok great. Let's wait on ehsan to fix this
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# [20:40] <armenzg> jimm: have you run the tests by downloading a packaged tests and a firefox zip?
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# [20:40] <armenzg> I can't find browser/metro/base/tests
# [20:40] <armenzg> I've downloaded it from here http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32/1364206260/
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# [20:41] <avih> jlebar: re 100ms timer, how old is your tree? the accuracy of actual delay has improved much at bug 590422 about a week ago. also, right now on windows XP you might get a lower resolution timer. I'd say that with current tree it shouldn't be more than 1-2ms error, and on windows xp, upto about 15ms error
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# [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf4dd3992384 - Mounir Lamouri - No bug - Revert changes made in bug 841001 as they are no longer needed.
# [20:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b180ce838e43 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 841882 - Revert bug 597525.
# [20:42] <jlebar> avih: That's perfect; thanks for the pointer!
# [20:42] <jimm> armenzg: they are in there - C:\Users\jim\Desktop\firefox-22.0a1.en-US.win32.tests.zip\mochitest\metro\browser\metro\base\tests
# [20:43] <armenzg> jimm: OK, I think I've found them http://cl.ly/Notf
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# [20:45] <armenzg> jimm: make.py is not bundle in any of the two zips
# [20:45] <armenzg> I will wget it for now
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# [20:45] <jimm> armenzg: how do you run tests on win7?
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# [20:45] <jimm> with make?
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# [20:45] <armenzg> jimm: python
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# [20:46] <armenzg> jimm: e.g. 'c:/mozilla-build/python27/python' '-u' 'scripts/scripts/desktop_unittest.py' '--cfg' 'unittests/win_unittest.py' '--mochitest-suite' 'chrome,a11y,plugins' '--download-symbols' 'ondemand'
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# [20:48] <armenzg> jimm: which ends up looking like "c:\talos-slave\test\build\venv\Scripts\python -u c:\talos-slave\test\build\tests\mochitest/runtests.py --appname=c:\talos-slave\test\build\application\firefox\firefox.exe --utility-path=tests/bin --extra-profile-file=tests/bin/plugins --symbols-path=http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32/1364229324/firefox-22.0a1.en-US.win32.crashreporter-sym
# [20:48] <armenzg> bols.zip --certificate-path=tests/certs --autorun --close-when-done --console-level=INFO --chrome"
# [20:49] <jesup> bsmedberg: for planning purposes, do you think you'll get to the nsThread leak bug 853998 aka bug 833769 today? It's a very small patch, and if we don't take it (and instead remove up-promotion of pthreads to nsThreads, and I'm not sure how much that will break) we have a bunch of coding to do before uplift. And I know some Sheriffs who really would like to see 833769 go away.... ;-)
# [20:49] <jimm> armenzg:ah yes, so you can run these the same way we just need to tweak the input args to /runtests.py
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# [20:49] <armenzg> jimm: that would be great! if you could drop the info on how to that would be way better for me!
# [20:49] <@bsmedberg> jesup: probably tomorrow morning, I needed to read a few more pieces of code
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# [20:50] <jimm> armenzg: '--metro-immersive --browser-chrome'
# [20:50] <jimm> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/build.mk#68
# [20:51] <jimm> armenzg: twiw, your paste above was running chrome tests (--chrome)
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# [20:51] <jesup> bsmedberg: thanks. Just watch out for the Sheriffs. ;-)
# [20:51] <jimm> armenzg: metro tests are just like desktop browser chrome test (bc)
# [20:52] <armenzg> jimm: great info
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# [20:52] <jimm> armenzg: at least that's the first set we want to try and get going. we can run the other suites too.
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# [20:53] <armenzg> I will be going into a meeting soon and I will get back to you tomorrow
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# [20:55] <stephend> bz: is there a networking-specific IRC channel?
# [20:55] <stephend> looking for someone to help review bug 840162, if possible
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# [20:56] <stephend> er, bug 840612
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# [21:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0c7a4c13f29 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 850947 - make social use of addon install panel work as an osx panel, r=felipe,markh
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# [21:04] <lsblakk> philor: so...did you try an aurora-as-beta build for FF21 already?
# [21:04] <Yoric> stephend: You could try #necko
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# [21:06] <tbsaunde> philor: that crash and leak is pretty wierd
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# [21:09] <@killer> ehsan was last seen here 2 days, 19 hours, 46 minutes ago.
# [21:09] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 2 days, 23 hours, 31 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying 'even though I'm not drinking wine as of this moment at least ;)' in #developers.
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# [21:10] <@smaug> roc then
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# [21:10] <gps> cpeterson: please file a bug on that
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# [21:10] <gps> Core :: Build Config
# [21:10] <cpeterson> gps: ok
# [21:11] <gps> cpeterson: the error is safe to ignore. it happens after the build system has finished
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# [21:11] <cpeterson> gps: that's why I wasn't tooo concerned :)
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# [21:12] <Callek> sooooooo on current aurora I can't load intranet.mozilla.org
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# [21:12] <Callek> (spins in connecting)
# [21:12] <Callek> I suspect something https:// or authz related
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# [21:14] <philor> lsblakk: several times, filed the bug on the only bustage (other than Android, where it's unknowable), "reviewed" the patch, and it's landed in Aurora, we're as good as we can be
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# [21:15] <philor> tbsaunde: which crash-and-leak?
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# [21:15] <lsblakk> philor: you rock
# [21:16] <tbsaunde> philor: the one on aurora you starred as bug 694254 and the crash in fileReadSlice.xul
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# [21:16] <philor> mounir: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21068803&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - at least Mac seems unhappy with you
# [21:16] <KWierso|Home> Callek: loads for me
# [21:16] <KWierso|Home> (Windows)
# [21:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bf75f6d2fd7 - Richard Newman - Bug 831404 - Timer slop for: Intermittent services\datareporting\tests\xpcshell\test_policy.js | false == true. r=trivial
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# [21:16] <Callek> KWierso|Home: yea I
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# [21:16] <Callek> erm I'm windows, on aurora, and its not loading
# [21:16] <Callek> any page
# [21:16] <Callek> (other https works fine
# [21:17] <Callek> oooo I'm on 21.0a2 (2013-03-23)
# [21:17] <KWierso|Home> Callek: This the Aurora that is automatically updated, or an hourly?
# [21:17] <Callek> not 03-25
# [21:17] <KWierso|Home> ah
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# [21:17] <philor> tbsaunde: oh, yeah, it's best not to have your tests run in mochitest-other, you wind up getting bits of logs from a totally different suite :)
# [21:18] <philor> tbsaunde: the non-leak parts are bug 764369, in mochitest-chrome, which is a lovely thing on its own
# [21:19] <tbsaunde> philor: yeah, I get mail for it too but haven't memorized the number
# [21:19] <tbsaunde> philor: moth isn't my choice
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# [21:20] <tbsaunde> I just read the log as them being from the same suite and went O.O
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# [21:23] <mounir> philor: will do a hot fix
# [21:24] <Callek> KWierso|Home: soo thanks, wfm in latest aurora, not sure if the restart alone fixed it, or the newer aurora, either way, I'm not gonna worry unless it happens again
# [21:24] <KWierso|Home> \o/
# [21:25] <@gavin> gps: is bug 841713 just waiting on review from ted?
# [21:25] <gps> gavin: yes
# [21:25] <mounir> philor: it should be fixed
# [21:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee316928e0b9 - Mounir Lamouri - No Bug - Fix build bustage.
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# [21:36] <gaston> so who should i talk to for bus errors in nss_Init() (#853364) ? bsmith ?
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# [21:37] <bsmith> gaston: it could be due to differences in the build system used for NSS standalone vs. the build system we use for it in Gecko
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# [21:38] <bsmith> gaston: I am just about to go to lunch. Please try to narrow the regression range and put the info in the bug.
# [21:38] <gaston> in that context i'm using bundled nss
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# [21:38] <bsmith> Yes, that would explain why bundled NSS doesn't work but standalone NSS works
# [21:38] <gaston> hmmm
# [21:39] <gaston> i'll try building m-c with systemwide nss then :)
# [21:39] <gaston> didnt think of it..
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# [21:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d94c44aa4d2 - Jim Mathies - Bug 848594 - Always manipulate focus node when selecting content in text inputs. r=mbrubeck
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# [22:14] <Waldo> dholbert: http://code.google.com/p/double-conversion/issues/detail?id=37
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# [22:36] <JosiahOne> Is there a way to get the tab count in C++?
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# [22:37] <JosiahOne> Or C. Or Obj-C.
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# [22:38] <mccr8> yay!
# [22:39] <dholbert> Waldo, you already patched that one locally, right?
# [22:39] <dholbert> Waldo, I thought that was one of the ipc/chromium ones
# [22:40] <dholbert> Waldo, or is this the tracker for some piece of breakpad?
# [22:40] <Waldo> dholbert: it's not patched; the file's in mfbt/double-conversion/utils.h, built when you build mfbt; would be a matter of adding another patch to that directory, and mentioning it in the sibling update.sh
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# [22:41] <@smaug> tanvi: ping
# [22:41] <@smaug> khuey: yay!
# [22:41] <jwatt> Waldo: ping
# [22:42] <dholbert> Waldo, ah, ok
# [22:42] <Waldo> jwatt: pong
# [22:42] <tbsaunde> smaug: quick question, wht happens if you focus something with disabled=true?
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# [22:42] <jwatt> Waldo: got a minute to discuss bug 854531 ?
# [22:42] <@smaug> don't recall
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# [22:42] <@smaug> tbsaunde: don't recall
# [22:42] <Waldo> jwatt: um, sure
# [22:42] <tbsaunde> smaug: ok
# [22:42] <@smaug> tbsaunde: probably focusing just doesn't do anything
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# [22:43] <jwatt> Waldo: basically I want to know how to proceed if you're going to be reviewer
# [22:43] <dholbert> Waldo, I was thinking about https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8f162f54f29d
# [22:43] <@smaug> tbsaunde: Enn remembers focus handling better :)
# [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b1459d107c9 - Mark Finkle - Bug 854107 - Lazy load normal JS objects in browser.js r=margaret
# [22:43] <dholbert> Waldo, which is nearly the same (with s/BitCast/bit_cast/ I guess)
# [22:43] <jwatt> Waldo: the two files I want are at https://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Source/WebCore/platform/Decimal.cpp
# [22:43] <jwatt> Waldo: (plus .h)
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# [22:44] <Waldo> dholbert: yeah; I get the impression every little standalone thing out of Google has its own slimmed-down compat library
# [22:44] <jwatt> Waldo: their license files are in the directory above
# [22:44] <dholbert> Waldo, yeah
# [22:44] <jwatt> Waldo: how about I create mfbt/decimal/
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# [22:44] <jwatt> Waldo: and stick all files directly in there?
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# [22:44] <jwatt> Waldo: along with an update.sh script and patches
# [22:44] <sfink> oh, right, C++ is still growing different ways of casting
# [22:45] <sfink> I'm waiting for pun_cast
# [22:45] <sfink> I think that would /msg Waldo if it hasn't heard that one before
# [22:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50beb409e8d0 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 854481: Remove unused typedef from jstypedarray.cpp. r=Waldo
# [22:45] <Waldo> jwatt: that sounds reasonable
# [22:45] <jwatt> Waldo: okay, I'll do that, ta
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# [22:46] <Waldo> jwatt: having all the updating steps in an update.sh, and our own patches atop it, is the important part, to ensure we don't fork by dint of laziness, mostly
# [22:46] <jwatt> Waldo: right
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# [22:47] <@khuey> smaug: what'd I do?
# [22:47] <@khuey> oh, landing
# [22:47] <@khuey> yes
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# [22:49] <NeilAway> jlebar: at least on Windows, I thought timers and Date.now() had a potential 16ms error
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# [22:49] <jlebar> NeilAway: Interesting. I'm on Linux, but I was seeing the errors when running inside valgrind.
# [22:49] <jlebar> Sounds like I need to add some fudge to my test.
# [22:50] <NeilAway> jlebar: I wouldn't expect that size of error normally on Linux, but once you mix in valgrind I'd say all bets are off ;-)
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# [22:51] <jlebar> NeilAway: I thought so hard about how to structure this test so that this timeout check would always be safe, too!
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# [22:52] <mwu> kinetik: I'm trying to use the update.sh script to update cubeb but the commit sha1 isn't updating
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# [22:52] <mwu> doing it on osx, wonder if it's getting confused because of bsd sed
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# [22:54] <gaston> yeah it didnt work for me either :)
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# [22:55] <markh> annevk: quick question - do you ever see web notifications being exposed to workers, or will it always be limited to "content"?
# [22:55] <reuben> ggp: ping
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# [22:55] <ggp> reuben: pong
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# [22:55] <reuben> ggp: re bug 854576, ContactManager's init doesn't return anything
# [22:55] <mwu> it's probably just getting confused due to the regex itself
# [22:55] <annevk> markh: seems problematic for shared workers
# [22:55] <reuben> ggp: do you mean Contact.init?
# [22:56] <reuben> ggp: (note that it doesn't return anything either, but maybe you want it to return something?)
# [22:56] <tanvi> smaug: what's up
# [22:56] <annevk> markh: normal workers could work I think, though would require a bit more thought with respect to the offline "reviving notifications" discussion (getting Notification objects back after the user closes and reopens the page)
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# [22:57] <markh> annevk: what is problematic about shared workers?
# [22:57] <ggp> reuben: I mean this method: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/contacts/ContactManager.js#702
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# [22:57] <@dolske> billm: pong!
# [22:57] <annevk> markh: they can be shared among multiple origins whereas notification permissions is tied to a single origin
# [22:57] <ggp> reuben: Contact.init should be fine AFAIK, as Contact doesn't implement nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer
# [22:58] <@smaug> tanvi: trying to understand the test :)
# [22:58] <markh> I'd have thought a problem with shared workers attempting to use them is that it would need to message exactly one of its attached content pages to display a notification on its behalf. At least for a normal worker there is only one candidate :)
# [22:58] <@smaug> tanvi: what is the _server.html
# [22:58] <markh> ah, right
# [22:58] <billm> dolske: never mind :-). I was going to ask how to get the notification ui to pop up to try to reproduce a bug, but someone else showed me how.
# [22:58] <@dolske> ok!
# [22:58] <annevk> markh: well yeah, another problem with shared workers is that when you click the notification, which page do you display?
# [22:58] <reuben> ggp: that method only returns null and undefined
# [22:59] <@dolske> billm: http://jsbin.com/notification/1/edit would have been my answer :)
# [22:59] <mwu> kinetik: seems like -E is needed in order for it to recognize the +
# [22:59] <annevk> markh: even same-origin that's a problem
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# [22:59] <markh> annevk: yeah - although there would be a number of use-cases where clicking a notification want to open a new page/tab
# [22:59] <mwu> which is totally different from and unsupported by gnu sed
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# [22:59] <markh> but thanks - so IIUC, it's not totally ruled out for the future, but I shouldn't hold my breath :)
# [22:59] <billm> dolske: thanks. btw, do you know if anyone is going to blog about it soon? all the information I found in google used the webkit-specific api.
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# [23:00] <@dolske> dunno.
# [23:00] <annevk> markh: hmm yeah, there have been some suggestions as to associating a URL with a notification
# [23:00] <ggp> reuben: ugh, sorry, mistake in the bug -- it should read "note that returning _nothing_..."
# [23:00] <ggp> so it's still not fine to return undefined
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# [23:01] <annevk> markh: feel free to cc me on some bug or email thread that's discussing this, I'm gonna go back to my evening :)
# [23:01] <markh> annevk: or, as a random thought, allow a window with the same origin to "steal focus" while the onclick event is current, or something...
# [23:01] <kinetik> mwu: ugh
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# [23:01] <ggp> reuben: I'll fix the bug (and the other from where I copied :P), thanks for catching that
# [23:01] <markh> annevk: np, thanks. This is in the context of our "social api" which already has something similar, and I'm considering how to best replace that with "real" notifications
# [23:01] <mwu> I'll just manually update that this time
# [23:02] <reuben> ggp: also see bug 850430, depending on the timeframe there we may not need to fix this
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# [23:02] <tanvi> smaug: well the _server.html file is poorly named, but it is the page that tries to load child and grand child frames (over https) and then navigates to http pages.
# [23:03] <ggp> reuben: yeah, I just got orders from above to file bugs and not wait for webidl conversions :)
# [23:03] <kinetik> mwu: the OS X man pages are confusing me. re_format says + is supported and the sed man page refers to that page for basic regexs...
# [23:03] <reuben> ggp: lol, okay
# [23:03] <tanvi> smaug: the http page is also served from the same file. I use a parameter to determine what html and javscript to present on the page.
# [23:03] <@smaug> right
# [23:03] <tanvi> smaug: i did it this way instead of creating 8-10 different files for each test
# [23:04] <@smaug> tanvi: this is going to be a bit rs style review
# [23:04] <@smaug> rubberstamp
# [23:04] <tanvi> huh?
# [23:04] <@smaug> tanvi: I mean, this is just a test
# [23:04] <@smaug> not going to complain about coding style or anything :)
# [23:04] <zwol> kinetik: "basic regex" never supports +. It might support \+
# [23:04] <Ms2ger> smaug, I can, if you need someone to complain about coding style :)
# [23:04] <tanvi> i'm happy to laern about a better way to do this that makes more sense and is easier to understand.
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# [23:05] <@smaug> tanvi: these page load tests tend to be hard
# [23:05] <kinetik> zwol: yeah, it is \+, but that doesn't seem to be supported either.
# [23:05] <tanvi> but with children and grand children and great grandchildren frames, it just gets complicated
# [23:05] <kinetik> and the openbsd man pages are much clearer about this than the OS X ones.
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# [23:06] <mwu> zwol: there's -E, but it's not standard
# [23:06] <mwu> might confuse gnu sed. dunno
# [23:06] <kinetik> yeah, the same flag is -r for gnu :-/
# [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a90c916de9d3 - Geoff Brown - Bug 853502 - Add df output to sutagent device info; r=jmaher DONTBUILD
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# [23:07] <kinetik> and it does choke on -E.
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# [23:07] <mwu> I've seen perl used as a more portable sed
# [23:07] <@smaug> tanvi: it makes reviewing a bit harder when there isn't clear execution order
# [23:07] <Ms2ger> mwu, use python, then :)
# [23:08] <@smaug> two iframe loads at once...
# [23:08] <@smaug> never know which one is loaded first
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# [23:08] <tanvi> smaug: the test_mixed html file is the outer most page[1]. In it, we load an http frame [2] and an https frame[3]. The http frame[2] tires to load an https frame that navigates to http. The http frame[2] also laods an http frame[4] that loads an https frame that navigates to http.
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# [23:09] <mwu> dunno about python, but perl has a couple of flags which make it an almost drop-in replacement for sed
# [23:09] <tanvi> smaug: so i guess the issue is that too many tests are running at the same time?
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# [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b26efa96a952 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 853266 - Upgrade SQLite to version 3.7.16 (Mozilla changes). r=mak
# [23:09] <@smaug> tanvi: we load http and https frames simultaneously, so need to keep that in mind when reviewing
# [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e85c2a9b219 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 852981 - Update pdf.js to version 0.7.390. r=bdahl
# [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59d05a61b8ba - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 853266 - Upgrade SQLite to version 3.7.16 (SQLite changes). r=mak
# [23:10] <kinetik> mwu: how about if you replace \+ with \{40\}?
# [23:10] <@smaug> tanvi: might be easier to review if there was a clear order. "first test X, then Y and then Z"
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# [23:10] <tanvi> smaug: to go on, the https frame[3] (file_mixed_content_frameNavigation_secure.html) loads an https frame that tries to redirect to http. The https frame[3] also loads an https frame[5] that loads an https frame that navigates to http.
# [23:11] <mwu> lemme try that..
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# [23:11] <tanvi> smaug: i actually have a diagram that i drew out that helps make sense of the test
# [23:12] <@smaug> tanvi: ha, so it isn't hard just for me :)
# [23:12] <tanvi> smaug: yes!
# [23:12] <kinetik> mwu: and \? with \{0,1\}
# [23:13] <kinetik> mwu: that works for me
# [23:13] <decoder> looks like asan build have been broken for a while
# [23:13] <decoder> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?jobname=asan&showall=1
# [23:13] <decoder> did a sheriff already look into this?
# [23:13] <mwu> kinetik: works here
# [23:14] <kinetik> mwu: cool, let's go with that.
# [23:14] <kinetik> works with gnu sed too.
# [23:14] <dholbert> decoder, not that I've heard
# [23:15] <dholbert> decoder, looks like they regressed on this push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?jobname=asan&showall=1&rev=072b936973fe
# [23:15] <dholbert> decoder, want to bisect and figure out when they broke? :)
# [23:15] <mwu> kinetik: want me to just put that in with the cubeb update then?
# [23:15] <tanvi> smaug: i will email it to you
# [23:15] <decoder> dholbert: yea, ill look through them
# [23:15] <kinetik> mwu: yes please
# [23:15] <dholbert> or alternately, m-i probably has those builds too and would show when they broke
# [23:15] <decoder> dholbert: thx
# [23:15] <mwu> ok
# [23:15] <decoder> dholbert: nope, m-i doesnt have them
# [23:15] <dholbert> ah, ok
# [23:15] <decoder> thats one of the main problems
# [23:15] <dholbert> yeah
# [23:16] <@smaug> tanvi: thanks
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# [23:17] <tanvi> smaug: done
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# [23:18] <@smaug> tanvi: thanks
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# [23:18] <@smaug> tanvi: nice one :)
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# [23:19] <@smaug> first time I use this kind of information for reviewing
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# [23:19] <njn> philor: should I use DONTBUILD for a changes-comments-only patch?
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# [23:20] <dholbert> njn, yes
# [23:20] <njn> dholbert: thanks, philor
# [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3446228af9dc - Michael Wu - Bug 853077 - Don't queue empty buffers in the opensles cubeb backend, r=kinetik
# [23:21] <dholbert> njn, DONTBUILD is appropriate/appreciated for any absolutely-guaranteed-not-to-break-the-build-or-modify-behavior commits
# [23:21] <philor> :)
# [23:21] <njn> dholbert: depends on your definition of "guaranteed" :)
# [23:22] <dholbert> njn, which includes most whitespace-only patches, comments only patches, and backout-and-reland-the-exact-same-patch-to-fix-commit-message
# [23:22] <dholbert> njn, yeah, yeah :) as long as you're not adding a "*/" in the middle of a comment, I think you're fine :)
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# [23:23] <dhylands> bz: ping
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# [23:25] <lsblakk> Ryan: you up for a checkin to beta?
# [23:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb015c10d58f - Jonathan Kew - bug 828508 - use larger favicons in hidpi mode if available. r=fryn
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# [23:26] <philor> lsblakk: you probably mean "RyanVM: even though you aren't here and are on PTO today, ..."
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# [23:27] <lsblakk> sigh. is Ryan not the same person?
# [23:27] <dholbert> Ryan != RyanVM
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# [23:27] * lsblakk casts a wider net for a simple PB patch uplift from bug 853996
# [23:27] <lsblakk> someone please :)
# [23:28] <jhammel> yeah, Ryan runs on physical hardware :P
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# [23:30] <nthomas> lsblakk: I'll get it
# [23:30] <tbsaunde> lsblakk: I can push that
# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a535bd50a23 - Luke Wagner - Bug 854448 - Fix debug-only null-deref in JSFunction::name (r=njn)
# [23:31] <lsblakk> yay - multiple volunteers!
# [23:31] <tbsaunde> nthomas: you want to or prefer I do it?
# [23:31] <nthomas> I don't mind
# [23:32] <nthomas> I'm the hook for watching the infra for the beta anyway
# [23:32] <tbsaunde> nthomas: ah, then I'll happily let you do it :-)
# [23:32] <nthomas> okie doke
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# [23:33] <nthomas> hah, doesn't apply
# [23:33] <nthomas> tbsaunde: do you know this code ?
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# [23:36] <@smaug> tanvi: still more questions
# [23:36] <nthomas> ah, here's ehsan
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# [23:36] <@smaug> tanvi: why do we block any loads if security.mixed_content.block_active_content is false
# [23:36] <tanvi> smaug: when it is false we don't block anything
# [23:37] <@ehsan> hi
# [23:37] <tanvi> when it is true, we block http iframes if there is an https parent
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# [23:37] <@smaug> tanvi: oh, right, I read ok(...) wrongly
# [23:37] <@smaug> there is blockActive == ...
# [23:37] <tanvi> smaug: for previous tests, I ran tests for both when the pref is enabled and when it is disabled
# [23:37] <nthomas> ehsan: lsblakk was looking for volunteers to uplift bug 853996 for you. Since it doesn't apply directly to beta I'd rather leave it to you
# [23:37] <tanvi> smaug: blockActive == is what controls that
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# [23:37] <@smaug> yup
# [23:37] <tanvi> smaug: cool :)
# [23:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7a38caee2b5 - Randell Jesup - Bug 848946: In shutdown, don't wait for DataChannel closes to go to peer and back r=mcmanus
# [23:38] <@ehsan> nthomas: ok, I just arrived in SF, will do it once I get to the office
# [23:38] <lsblakk> ehsan: cool - thanks
# [23:38] <@ehsan> np
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# [23:38] <lsblakk> ehsan: you and edwin are the two wait-fors in going to final beta
# [23:38] <lsblakk> no pressure :)
# [23:38] <lsblakk> (also: race!)
# [23:38] <@ehsan> heh
# [23:38] <@smaug> ehsan: btw, I wouldn't mind if someone explained the ownership of AudioNodes in Bug 853298
# [23:38] <@ehsan> ok let me just land it right now
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# [23:39] <philor> yeah, always better to land the final patch to mozilla-beta from the airport :)
# [23:39] <@ehsan> smaug: I'll do that later today
# [23:39] <@smaug> thanks
# [23:39] <@ehsan> philor: nah I'm alreadt at the hotel ;)
# [23:39] <philor> except, you're supposed to do it just before *leaving*, not arriving
# [23:39] <@smaug> no hurry. I'll read it tomorrow
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# [23:41] <@ehsan> hehe
# [23:41] <philor> if it's a race with edwin who already has tests finishing, though, I have bad news about your odds of winning
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# [23:42] <@ehsan> lsblakk: done
# [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/116acfdc5059 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 853996 - Make sure that opening a new window in permanent private browsing mode never shows about:privatebrowsing; r=jdm a=lsblakk
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# [23:56] <reuben> anyone else being CTCP flooded by a couple of clients?
# [23:57] * njn loves Unix job control
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# [23:58] <tanvi> smaug: thanks for your review! to show my appreciation, i'm going to mark another mochitest patch r? for you ;)
# [23:58] <mbrubeck> reuben: Yeah, #introduction got flooded
# [23:58] <mbrubeck> ops are on it
# [23:59] <@smaug> tanvi: iiik
# [23:59] <@smaug> :)
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