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1. # Session Start: Wed Mar 27 00:00:00 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] * philor sees suspect push with -b o try push number two for the day
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6. # [00:03] <philor> aklotz: do you, by any chance, weigh the same as a duck?
7. # [00:03] <JosiahOne> ???
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9. # [00:04] <gbrown> roc: I'm trying out a patch...back in a few
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11. # [00:04] <JosiahOne> That… Was the most random thing I have ever heard.
12. # [00:04] <mbrubeck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g
13. # [00:04] <nthomas> haven't been around philor much then ?
14. # [00:04] <JosiahOne> nthomas: No. I have not.
15. # [00:04] <wg9s> philor: Issue I was trying to address was people who inadvetently land after tree is red but have no idea because the builds have not gone red yet
16. # [00:05] <wg9s> idea was to have it be kind of self metering with a pending+running builds rule to avoid such issues.
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18. # [00:05] <wg9s> was not trying to solve the redness just trying to limit the number of bugs people think landed OK that end up being backed out.
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21. # [00:06] <wg9s> s/bugs/bug fixes/
22. # [00:06] * philor tosses https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=794d86e866c3 in the pond, sees that it floats
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26. # [00:07] <philor> wg9s: an admirable goal, which I fear would find its hopes dashed on the stones of everyone's eagerness to just get their patch landed during the increasingly brief times we're open during their working day
27. # [00:07] <@dolske> it's ok, it's just a Baby Ruth bar
28. # [00:07] <tbsaunde> gps: ok, I beat the build system into build enough that I'm confident in my patch building, but given its a mingw build I suspect I'm going to get to debug it at some point unless glandium or jacek have already delt with it or something
29. # [00:08] <mbrubeck> I see we've got some nice Win8 crashes with useless stacks...
30. # [00:08] <philor> after all, everybody knows that it's a bad thing to rebase at top speed to be able to land within 53 seconds of another push, but I keep expecting to see someone get it down under 45 seconds
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32. # [00:09] <wg9s> philor: but if we could actually get pople to do this my feleing is that tree clsure periods would be shortened.
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34. # [00:09] <JosiahOne> mbrubeck: Why thank you for that immensely educational experience. What movie is that from?
35. # [00:09] <wg9s> but then I could also expound on my opionion on doing PGO builds in the first place
36. # [00:09] <mbrubeck> JosiahOne: Monty Python and the Holy Grail
37. # [00:10] <JosiahOne> mbrubeck: Thanks!
38. # [00:10] <philor> mbrubeck: could be the witch who is messing up the OOP crash stacks, too; after all, he turned me into a newt
39. # [00:11] <@roc> gbrown: turns out that verifyUrl already has some polling built into it
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41. # [00:11] <@roc> so I'm trying a patch that increases its polling timeout and just removes the paintExpecter
42. # [00:12] <aklotz> mbrubeck: thanks for the context
43. # [00:12] <aklotz> philor: I'm going to back that out
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54. # [00:18] <johns> bsmedberg: ping
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56. # [00:19] <gbrown> roc: I'm trying this: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2249096 ... basically wait for paint at each step
57. # [00:19] <gbrown> roc: does that approach work for you?
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63. # [00:24] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: ping
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77. # [00:35] <@roc> gbrown: see above ... I'm worried that a stray paint from a previous load might make the test move forward prematurely
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82. # [00:41] <gbrown> roc: but with my patch, we wait for paint + wait for a period (2000 ms?) without any paint between each load
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101. # [00:53] <@smaug> so how should one run tests these days
102. # [00:53] <@smaug> so that the browser doesn't close automatically
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114. # [01:06] <dholbert> Jesse,
115. # [01:06] <dholbert> ping
116. # [01:06] <dholbert> :)
117. # [01:06] <NeilAway> great
118. # [01:06] <NeilAway> make -j3 failed in dom/
119. # [01:06] <NeilAway> make -j3 -C dom succeeded
120. # [01:06] * NeilAway sighs
121. # [01:06] <Jesse> dholbert: pong
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123. # [01:07] <dholbert> Jesse, RE https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854263#c4 -- so, that assertion does indicate a bug (not just something weird), unless we've got content in the page that's large enough to overflow nscoord values
124. # [01:08] <dholbert> Jesse, and yeah, it'd be great to include this in the assertions-that-get-disabled-when-we-detect-huge-nscoords as suggested on that other bug you linked to
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126. # [01:08] <dholbert> Jesse, I'm thinking of making it NS_WARN_IF_FALSE with a comment saying "// Upgrade this to an assertion that's controlled by bug 765861, once that bug is fixed" -- would that be satisfactory?
127. # [01:09] <Jesse> that would be great
128. # [01:09] <dholbert> ok
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132. # [01:11] <Waldo> dougt: note that ./mach help is a thing
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134. # [01:11] <Waldo> ...and now I read one more line of scrollback
135. # [01:12] <dougt> crazy awesome thing
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137. # [01:12] <Jesse> dholbert: would fixing bug 765861 be worth it just to get more/better bug reports from the fuzzer?
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139. # [01:13] <dholbert> Jesse, yes, though I don't have cycles for it at the moment
140. # [01:13] <dholbert> Jesse, it's definitely something we should fix, though, IMHO
141. # [01:14] <philor> hub: marionette seems a bit perturbed by your patch
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146. # [01:17] <philor> and paging jwatt, jwatt to the assertion chamber please
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152. # [01:20] <dholbert> philor, jwatt is likely asleep
153. # [01:20] <philor> dholbert: conveniently, I was just about to ask his reviewer about severity there :)
154. # [01:20] <dholbert> fair enough :)
155. # [01:20] * dholbert looking
156. # [01:21] <dholbert> heh, his push isn't even on the first page of m-i tbpl
157. # [01:21] <dholbert> huge backlog
158. # [01:21] <philor> and your little M5 Toto, too
159. # [01:21] * philor waits for his browser to unhang from opening a full log of one
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161. # [01:23] <philor> same assertion, "don't you be ripping my div out of the document that way, that's naughty"
162. # [01:23] <dholbert> yup, he needs a backout
163. # [01:23] * dholbert will do it
164. # [01:23] <hub> philor: urg. I and tested it before
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166. # [01:23] <dholbert> the crashtest assertions are attributed to the wrong crashtest
167. # [01:23] <hub> philor: because it is supposed to impact marionette :-/ albeit still working
168. # [01:23] <dholbert> (the one after)
169. # [01:23] <dholbert> full log puts them in context & makes sense
170. # [01:23] <philor> hub: did you then address review comments? that's almost always where people go wrong ;)
171. # [01:24] <hub> philor: yeah
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173. # [01:24] <hub> philor: and it ran on try
174. # [01:24] <hub> I did it twice before pushing
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177. # [01:26] <philor> somebody probably undermined you by pushing something this morning
178. # [01:26] <hub> :-/
179. # [01:26] <dholbert> philor, ah! I know what jwatt needs, actually
180. # [01:27] <hub> philor: but even this afternoon it ran
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182. # [01:27] <dholbert> hmm... so I know of a likely bustage-fix, but I probably should just back out, given the huge backlog
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185. # [01:29] <hub> and I can't even find my checking on tbpl
186. # [01:29] <philor> heh
187. # [01:29] <hub> check-in
188. # [01:29] * philor watches the clock tick firmly into MFBT in Mountain View time and does the happy dance
189. # [01:30] <philor> dholbert: no real hurry, measure twice cut once, lalala :)
190. # [01:30] <dholbert> philor, sorry, was pre-emptively typing up backout-comment-on-bug with all sorts of info
191. # [01:30] <dholbert> I'll do the backout
192. # [01:30] <philor> nothing to see here, people, take your patches and go home, tomorrow's another day, you'd rather push in the morning
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194. # [01:31] <philor> dholbert: no, anything that you can do to delay reopening is *good* for me
195. # [01:31] <dholbert> philor, ah :)
196. # [01:31] <hub> ok found it
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205. # [01:35] <tbsaunde> philor: did somebody decide that rasterImage.cpp didn't need to compile earlier today?
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209. # [01:36] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: That was me. :/
210. # [01:36] <mbrubeck> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4239df4eac9
211. # [01:37] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: ok, no big deal I'll just push to try again
212. # [01:37] <mbrubeck> I'm just trying to remind people to push to Try on top of known-green changesets. :D
213. # [01:37] <tbsaunde> heh
214. # [01:37] <philor> a noble cause
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216. # [01:38] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: So I broke your Try push *and* your inbound push? Heh. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=53743e639a87
217. # [01:39] <Callek> I tend to push to try from top of m-c, which is much-more-likely-to-be-green ;-)
218. # [01:39] <Callek> but then again, I don't push anywhere often enough
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221. # [01:39] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: heh, not suprising I don't think I pulled between them
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226. # [01:40] <philor> dholbert: might have to expand on that bug comment a little, ", reftest, mochitest-a11y, "
227. # [01:40] <dholbert> philor, ok :)
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230. # [01:41] <philor> " mochitest-1"
231. # [01:44] <@roc> gbrown: that seems a lot slower than just polling
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240. # [01:52] <gbrown> roc: true. if your way works, go with it
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246. # [01:57] <philor> hub: so, how's that backout coming along?
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249. # [01:59] <tbsaunde> philor: guessing by 20:26 < hub> check-in I'd say its bounced off the closed tree ook?
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251. # [02:00] <dholbert> yeah
252. # [02:00] * dholbert thinks tbsaunde is on to something
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254. # [02:03] <tbsaunde> philor: I guess you don't have a tree?
255. # [02:03] <philor> tbsaunde: you guess correctly
256. # [02:04] <hub> philor: oh you wanted me to back-out
257. # [02:04] <tbsaunde> philor: then I guess I'll help hub out the door for reals
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259. # [02:04] <tbsaunde> owe f
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262. # [02:06] <philor> hub: yeah, I'm confusing, since part of the time I'm at home and really watching the tree and I have a tree and can just back stuff out, and part of the time I'm at work and barely watching and don't have a tree
263. # [02:06] <hub> let's see
264. # [02:06] <hub> I will do
265. # [02:06] * jcranmer ponders making nsStringAPI.h use char16_t instead of PRUnichar
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267. # [02:06] <philor> plus I'm confusing just because it amuses me :)
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273. # [02:09] <philor> ugh, and there's seth, crashing Win debug in... startup cache?
274. # [02:09] <philor> leak test
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280. # [02:11] <hub> philor: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/123d7b2c7307
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282. # [02:12] <philor> hub: thanks, sorry on behalf of whoever turns out to have pulled the rug out from under you
283. # [02:12] <hub> philor: shit happens
284. # [02:12] <hub> now I have to figure out how to reimport the patch
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286. # [02:13] <Waldo> jcranmer: can you? note that char16_t is only provided by Char16.h if the compiler supports it -- there's no backwards-compatible emulation right now, iirc
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290. # [02:14] * Waldo isn't sure there's a way to use char16_t in advance of compilers implementing it :-\
291. # [02:14] <jcranmer> Waldo: maybe not, at least not until we fix the clang libstdc++ issue
292. # [02:15] <Waldo> jcranmer: what's that?
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297. # [02:16] <philor> hub: hg qimport https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/raw-rev/96f2990b1124
298. # [02:16] <philor> not that I have to reimport a lot of things after I back them out and they turn out to be blameless, I just, uh, happen to know that
299. # [02:17] <jcranmer> Waldo: <type_traits> in libstdc++ 4.7 fails in clang thanks to __float128 not being supported
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301. # [02:17] <Waldo> oh, that
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303. # [02:17] <Waldo> maybe I've only been testing with -std=c++0x rather than -std=gnu++0x when I've not hit that
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307. # [02:18] <Waldo> I wonder what prevents us from making that change, if anything
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311. # [02:19] <tbsaunde> Waldo: well, you could provide a char16 that's what PRUnichar is right now which is to say if win32 then wchar_t else uint16_t
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313. # [02:19] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: read Char16.h
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315. # [02:20] <Waldo> tbsaunde: char16_t is required to be a distinct type by specs, and it's unclear that we can break that without the world ending in various ways
316. # [02:20] <Waldo> unsure what MSVC will do, as I vaguely remember their char16_t is a typedef to something else
317. # [02:21] <Waldo> another possibility is to put ICU in mfbt and use ICU's UChar
318. # [02:21] <Waldo> but that shackles us to ICU's UChar update system, and steps away from standards again
319. # [02:21] <jcranmer> our Char16.hhas #define char16_t wchar_t
320. # [02:21] <Waldo> yeah, it's kinda dodgy
321. # [02:22] <jcranmer> we really can't say what the right way is until MSVC figures out what to do about char16_t
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328. # [02:26] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: hm? I don't think I see what the problem is here, the only case that isn't currently handled is old clang / gcc right?
329. # [02:26] <hub> philor: ah. I was trying with qimport -r :-/
330. # [02:26] <hub> I see the difference
331. # [02:27] <tbsaunde> I guess you could make an argument that atleast with RPUnichar you have no good reason to expect anything
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337. # [02:29] <philor> I presume that the way we both have a mouseenter listener in chrome, and warn on the use of a mouseenter listener in chrome, was an intentional war being carried out in every single damn log I look at?
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340. # [02:30] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: we don't have a non-C++11 solution for gcc/clang
341. # [02:30] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: and we don't compile with C++11 right now
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346. # [02:32] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: sure, but I'm not sure I see the problem with putting our fingers in our ears and pretending PRUnichar is the same as char16_t
347. # [02:33] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: we can't use char16.h yet
348. # [02:33] <tbsaunde> I'm not sure I'd want to put that in mfbt, but xpcom strings maybe
349. # [02:34] <markh1> ++ for |mach run| :)
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351. # [02:34] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I'm confused but whatever :/
352. # [02:35] <njn> How is the DOM |File| object related to XPCOM's |nsIFile|?
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354. # [02:35] <njn> a |File| object can be an instance of |nsIFile|, I think?
355. # [02:36] <njn> if I have a |File| that I've obtained from an <input type="file"> element, how do I convert that to an |nsIFile|?
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361. # [02:37] <njn> maybe I can just pass it and it'll work...?
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365. # [02:41] <evilpie> The reverse works the File constructor takes an nsIFile
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367. # [02:41] <njn> evilpie: yeah, but I want to go from File to nsIFile
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369. # [02:42] <njn> |mach google| -- really?
370. # [02:42] <evilpie> What are you trying to do?
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376. # [02:44] <njn> evilpie: in about:memory, get a file selected from an <input type="file"> element, and then pass it to an XPCOM method
377. # [02:44] <markh> njn: yeah, that's getting close to jumping the shark...
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380. # [02:45] <njn> evilpie: the file I'm reading is gzipped JSON, I just need to get that into normal JS form
381. # [02:46] <njn> evilpie: the XPCOM method I'm imagining will do the unzipping, but if there's an easier way I'd love to hear it
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383. # [02:46] <njn> evilpie: in short, I want to load a gzipped JSON file into about:memory
384. # [02:46] <evilpie> njn: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/Input.mozGetFileNameArray and normal nsIfile construction
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387. # [02:49] <njn> evilpie: AFAICT that just gives me filenames. I can already get them easily with non-moz-specific means
388. # [02:50] <njn> oh wait
389. # [02:50] <evilpie> Pathes
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391. # [02:51] <njn> evilpie: gotcha, thanks
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396. # [02:52] <philor> I think someone else weighs just the same as a duck!
397. # [02:52] <evilpie> File also has mozFullPath
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417. # [03:14] <@roc> how do we make someone an operator on #auckland?
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419. # [03:15] <gw280|dimsumoverload> roc: /msg chanserv help?
420. # [03:15] <gw280|dimsumoverload> roc: assuming you have chanserv access for that channel
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428. # [03:21] <njn> can I do |str.Assign(buf)|, where |buf| is allocated with malloc(), and |str| is a |nsACString|?
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430. # [03:21] <njn> (basically, I have a malloc'd char* that I want to stuff into an nsACString)
431. # [03:22] <sfink> markh: I think you almost hit it, but were off by 1 command. I think bug 855160 should help you out.
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433. # [03:24] <njn> sfink: OH SNAP
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435. # [03:24] <sfink> don't tell me you were implementing the same thing?
436. # [03:24] <sfink> I kinda doubt that
437. # [03:24] <njn> sfink: ok, I won't tell you
438. # [03:25] <sfink> don't tell me, but show me the patch?
439. # [03:26] <njn> sfink: no show and tell for you
440. # [03:26] <sfink> awww
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442. # [03:26] <reuben> sfink: I don't think you meant to include the js.cpp change in that patch?
443. # [03:27] <reuben> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=729933&action=diff#a/js/src/shell/js.cpp_sec2
444. # [03:27] <njn> hope I get the comma in the right place
445. # [03:27] <sfink> doh!
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447. # [03:28] <Mavericks> njn: looks like https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/nsACString_internal#Assign but probably AssignASCII
448. # [03:28] <sfink> reuben: thanks, fixed
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454. # [03:32] <db48x`> njn: yes, or use the constructor instead
455. # [03:32] <db48x`> njn: note that in either case you have to give a length as well
456. # [03:32] <db48x`> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/nsCString#Constructors
457. # [03:34] <njn> db48x`: the nsACString is an outparam so I need to use Assign. thanks
458. # [03:34] <db48x`> ah, ok :)
459. # [03:34] <db48x`> you're welcome
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465. # [03:43] <cpearce> gps: you know, it would be handy if `./mach build` had a command line option to tell it to clobber if need required. Then I could `hg pull -u && ./mach build -clobber-if-need-be` and walk away and know my build would update and actually build.
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469. # [03:45] <gps> cpearce: bug 837323
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471. # [03:46] <cpearce> gps: cool.
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474. # [03:50] <njn> evilpie: I have this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2249600 and |filename| is undefined
475. # [03:50] <breck> not sure if this would be helpful to anyone working on gecko, but built a quick visualization tool for visualizing dom trees: http://domtree.breckyunits.com/
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489. # [04:01] <markh> sfink: :)
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499. # [04:12] <reuben> njn: uh… https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/Input.mozGetFileNameArray#Example
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502. # [04:19] <njn> reuben: that's a pretty lame example
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504. # [04:19] <philor> tanvi, come on down! you're the next contestant on Who Gets Backed Out Next?
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510. # [04:23] <philor> hear me, o my people!
511. # [04:24] <philor> that bullshit about how you should only trigger one or two tests on one platform and not both opt and debug when you push to try?
512. # [04:24] <philor> that bullshit is bullshit
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514. # [04:25] <njn> how do I add a new XPCOM service? I've added this to nsXPCOMCID.h:
515. # [04:25] <njn> #define NS_GZ_FILE_READER_CONTRACTID "@mozilla.org/gz-file-reader;1"
516. # [04:25] <njn> but when I try to use it from JS I get an error
517. # [04:25] <njn> |TypeError: Cc['@mozilla.org/gz-file-reader;1'] is undefined|
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519. # [04:25] <njn> I'm cargo-culting other services as hard as I can, but I'm clearly missing something
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528. # [04:30] <njn> oh, MXR fails miserably at finding "filepicker;1"
529. # [04:30] <philor> argh
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531. # [04:33] <@bz> philor++
532. # [04:33] <njn> XPCOMModule.inc appears to be important
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551. # [04:49] <Kailas> Hi, In jetpack extension which event I shall listen when web page is loaded from a cache? I tried READY event on tabs, but it doesn't triggered on page loads from cache. I also tried to listen on "pageshow" event but it doesn't work. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2248336
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573. # [05:12] <jviereck> bajaj: *ping*
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581. # [05:22] <jviereck> What's the implications if an idl file changes but it's UUID is not changed? Can this break addons?
582. # [05:23] <@dolske> jviereck: yes, addons with binary components can break.
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585. # [05:25] <jviereck> dolske: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853033 has not landed yet on m-c. Can I already make a aurora/beta approval request? It's just a UUID IDL change that I've forgotten to make. Thing is I will be offline from the day after tomorrow, so I would like to get this bug done in the meantime. Does that sound reasonable?
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587. # [05:27] <@dolske> jviereck: yep
588. # [05:27] <jviereck> thx!
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590. # [05:28] <philor> "beta"? you mean the thing that's already merged to mozilla-release?
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596. # [05:30] <jviereck> uggg, that's bad :/
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600. # [05:30] <jviereck> philor: yes, the UUID affects Fx20
601. # [05:31] <jviereck> philor: should I add a request for Release than as well?
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604. # [05:32] <philor> jviereck: you should be requesting whatever it is that we call blocking now, tracking-firefox20
605. # [05:32] <philor> and continuing to ping every release manager, pretty much continuously
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611. # [05:33] <jviereck> philor: the bug was tracked for Fx21, but that was a mistake as it affects Fx20 as well. Who is a good release manager to shoot an eamil? I will be offline throught the rest of the day and want to make sure this gets resolved :/
612. # [05:35] <philor> jviereck: akeybl, lsblakk, bajaj
613. # [05:35] <philor> cc: release-drivers@
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615. # [05:36] <jviereck> philor: these names just need a @mozilla.com to go to their inboxes?
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617. # [05:37] <philor> jviereck: release-mgmt@mozilla.com, release-drivers@mozilla.org, the other three are @mozilla.com, yeah
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619. # [05:38] <jviereck> philor: thanks so much :)
620. # [05:38] <glob> bbajaj@ not bajaj@
621. # [05:38] <philor> rats, the one that I didn't test with autocomplete
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624. # [05:40] <Kailas> Hi, In jetpack extension which event I shall listen when web page is loaded from a cache? I tried READY event on tabs, but it doesn't triggered on page loads from cache. I also tried to listen on "pageshow" event but it doesn't work. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2248336
625. # [05:41] <philor> somebody answer Kailas' question, in one of the multilple channels where it's making me feel bad, kthx
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631. # [05:46] <sfink> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_Firefox_1.5_caching says that's what the pageshow event is for. Or was in Firefox 1.5. :-) But I am only a monkey with google access, I know nothing about any of this.
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633. # [05:47] <philor> this surprises me, but there's nothing else I clearly want to back out; reopened
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635. # [05:49] <derf> Give it time.
636. # [05:49] <Kailas> sfink: In jetpack extension, I want to know when page loaded from cache. To achieve this, I added pageshow event listener on document when its first loaded in browser. And I am expecting that when same page will be loaded from cache, my pageshow event handler will trigger. But its not happening. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2248336
637. # [05:51] <Kailas> I am working on userCSP add-on. And we are planning to release its next version this week.
638. # [05:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c04824522d46 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 848973 - Document what aFrame means in nsStyleDisplay::IsBlockInside() and friends. r=roc
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645. # [05:58] <philor> "cannot against"?
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650. # [06:03] <glob> according to that bug, we need more againsting
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657. # [06:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c459dfb9522b - Mark Finkle - Bug 854107 - Lazy load more notification-based objects r=margaret
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662. # [06:12] <jesup> 839650 would likely be the worst orange if we weren't suppressing assertions (which I'll now need to go undo once this has cleanly stuck).
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674. # [06:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5aabc5770767 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Components shim telemetry. r=mrbkap
675. # [06:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e59146e161e - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Components shim tests. r=mrbkap
676. # [06:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48bc6259ca24 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Remove the aTarget parameter from AttachComponentsObject. r=mrbkap
677. # [06:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed0f76ecfefd - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Stop attaching Components in InitClasses. r=mrbkap
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679. # [06:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a94932a1fa7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Define a lazily-resolved shim for Components. r=mrbkap
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682. # [06:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6eef579bea7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 790732 - Omit Components object for content scopes. r=mrbkap
683. # [06:24] <philor> so there I was, thinking we probably had enough risk loaded up on the tree already...
684. # [06:25] <philor> ah, preffed off, maybe that'll help
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731. # [07:09] <darkowlzz> any OS.File people here? need help with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854350
732. # [07:12] <ekr> The instructions here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/GTest don't seem to actually result in the gtest tests being built
733. # [07:12] <ekr> I do have: ac_add_options --enable-gtest in my mozconfig
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753. # [07:29] <philor> so, who all wants me to back them out, at 23:26?
754. # [07:30] <ekr> is this a trick question?
755. # [07:31] <philor> more an attempt to keep myself away from the capslock key
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757. # [07:31] <philor> what time does edmorley get to work these days?
758. # [07:31] <philor> I'm thinking about just leaving the tree closed until he does, see how the things I leave in shake out by then
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762. # [07:35] <ekr> philor: is there any chance you understand the build system?
763. # [07:35] <glandium> philor: what is the bustage for which m-i is closed?
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765. # [07:35] <ekr> (and that's a trick question, because I think nobody understands it)
766. # [07:35] <ekr> I'm trying to figure out how to get my gtest to compile
767. # [07:35] <philor> glandium: 10.8 and Android reftests, mochitest-4, so far, I haven't looked between the top bustage and the bottom bustage yet
768. # [07:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c47b3dda9c2d - Phil Ringnalda - Back out c04824522d46 (bug 848973) for (at least) 10.8 and Android reftest failures
769. # [07:37] <philor> but since every one of the tree closures so far today has blossomed into more things than the first obvious bustage, I'm sure I can find more
770. # [07:38] <reuben> philor: how much do you care (if at all) about bustage in hidden jobs right now?
771. # [07:39] <philor> reuben: did you break something, like, say, mochitest-3 on b2g?
772. # [07:39] <glandium> philor: are you going to backout 790732?
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774. # [07:39] <reuben> philor: well, it was broken before, my attempt to fix it did not look successful at first, but now after a few backouts it's green again
775. # [07:39] <philor> (answer: I know of some bustage, but there aren't enough hours in the day to worry about everything)
776. # [07:39] <reuben> philor: so it's green now, but I don't fully trust it
777. # [07:40] <philor> heh
778. # [07:40] <philor> glandium: well, I was sure thinking about it, yeah
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781. # [07:42] <philor> awesomesauce, I just love it when people have a bug comment including the URL for their try push which shows the bustage they then land
782. # [07:42] <philor> gives me that warm feeling that HAVING THE FUCKING TRYSERVER IS A TOTAL FUCKING WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORT
783. # [07:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8695e3fd2d34 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 8e59146e161e:29acf1494fed (bug 790732) for failing in exactly the same way it failed on the tryserver
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786. # [07:49] <dholbert> philor++
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788. # [07:51] <jgilbert> try would be much more useful if it had less ridiculous turnaround times
789. # [07:51] <ekr> "less ridiculous" is a real stretch goal
790. # [07:51] <philor> yeah, it would
791. # [07:51] <philor> does that make it a good idea to precipitate multi-hour tree closures?
792. # [07:52] <philor> does it make it a good idea to continue to push to it, but to ignore the results?
793. # [07:53] <philor> okay, I don't see any pattern to the rest of the bustage, reopened
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795. # [07:54] <glandium> my turn to break inbound \o/
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797. # [07:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ab72bbb04db - Mike Hommey - Bug 854914 - Allow clang to build in C++11 mode by working around http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=13530. r=ted
798. # [07:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20454bf62bb1 - Mike Hommey - Bug 852950 - Kill libxpcom. r=bsmedberg
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803. # [08:01] <philor> oh, look, more bustage
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810. # [08:05] <philor> jgilbert: is it a reasonable bet that https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21146129&tree=Mozilla-Inbound is from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b8db1d07846?
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812. # [08:06] <jgilbert> yeah, my bad, philor
813. # [08:07] <philor> no worries, there'll be another day
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818. # [08:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bdcec714f37 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 8b8db1d07846 (bug 855178) for asserting
819. # [08:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccb0b0c541f9 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Remove some whitespace on blank line, in configure.in. whitespace-only, DONTBUILD
820. # [08:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/554c4124d5ea - Daniel Holbert - Bug 855109: Fix typo in configure.in line for making gcc/clang c++ compilers use -Wsign-compare. r=glandium
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824. # [08:11] <philor> okay, only two unstarred timeouts and one crash I'm abandoning, better than I would have expected when I sat down to dinner with 175 unstarred
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839. # [08:33] <glandium> dholbert: try __attribute__((used))
840. # [08:33] <dholbert> glandium, we've got that already I think
841. # [08:33] <dholbert> glandium, waldo added something like that to address this in GCC 4.8
842. # [08:33] <dholbert> glandium, unless you already know that and I'm misunderstanding you
843. # [08:34] <glandium> dholbert: it's an __attribute__((unused))
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847. # [08:38] <glandium> dholbert: so i'm suggesting to replace unused with used
848. # [08:38] <dholbert> glandium, not sure I understand you fully, but replacing "unused" with "used" in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=727971&action=diff doesn't fix this
849. # [08:38] <dholbert> (just tried it)
850. # [08:39] <Kailas> Hi, Does anyone knows how I can run test files in "content/base/test/unit/" folder. I set "TEST_PATH=content/base/test/unit" but it doesn't run test from this folder.
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852. # [08:39] <glandium> maybe these attributes don't work on typedefs in < 4.8
853. # [08:39] <dholbert> glandium, possibly, yeah... Maybe that's why GCC didn't turn on this warning until 4.8
854. # [08:40] <dholbert> Kailas, what was the full command that you ran?
855. # [08:40] <dholbert> Kailas, to try to run tests
856. # [08:40] <glandium> Kailas: try ./mach xpcshell-tests content/base/test/unit
857. # [08:40] <glandium> xpcshell-test, not xpcshell-tests
858. # [08:40] <Kailas> make mochitest-browser-chrome
859. # [08:41] <dholbert> TEST_PATH=content/base/test/unit/ ./mach xpcshell-test
860. # [08:41] <glandium> Kailas: they are xpcshell tests, not mochitests :)
861. # [08:41] <dholbert> yeah
862. # [08:42] <Kailas> dholbert: Ohh!. Thank you very much for your help! I will try it now
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864. # [08:42] <dholbert> you're welcome
865. # [08:42] <dholbert> (I believe all of the "unit" test directories are xpcshell tests, but I'm not 100% sure)
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869. # [08:45] <Kailas> dholbert: I am getting error "./mach: No such file or directory". Is it because it needs to be run from particular directory or I need to explicitly set --enable-test in .mozconfig
870. # [08:45] <dholbert> Kailas, you need to run it from your source directory
871. # [08:45] <dholbert> you don't need to set --enable-test
872. # [08:45] <dholbert> (that's the default)
873. # [08:46] <dholbert> (so as long as you haven't disabled tests, they should be runnable)
874. # [08:46] <Kailas> dholbert: Thanks! It worked.
875. # [08:46] <dholbert> yay!
876. # [08:46] <dholbert> Kailas, mach is what you should be using for building, as well: ./mach build
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878. # [08:46] <dholbert> Kailas, it's our New Awesome Do-Everything Tool
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881. # [08:48] <Kailas> dholbert: Ohh! I didn't know it. I used "make -f client build" to build FF
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883. # [08:48] <dholbert> Kailas, that still works, but is less pretty
884. # [08:48] <dholbert> Kailas, more info here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/mach
885. # [08:48] <dholbert> probably more info than you want
886. # [08:49] <dholbert> ./mach help gives you a list of commands
887. # [08:49] <dholbert> anyway; /me heads to bed
888. # [08:49] <dholbert> Kailas, happy test-running!
889. # [08:50] <Kailas> dholbert: Thanks! It really helped me.
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891. # [08:50] <dholbert> glad to help!
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896. # [08:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34a026a9bce0 - Makoto Kato - Bug 855173 - jsshell package needs nss3.dll due to MOZ_FOLD_LIBS. r=glandium
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898. # [09:02] <JonathanS> I lost all track of monkies
899. # [09:03] <past> is "mach/make package" known to be broken on OS X?
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918. # [09:17] <past> oh, it is if you are using symlinks
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921. # [09:20] <glandium> past: how so?
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925. # [09:23] <past> glandium: 'symlink' doesn't appear to be an expecetd format in packager.py
926. # [09:24] <glandium> past: --enable-chrome-format=symlink?
927. # [09:24] <past> right
928. # [09:25] <glandium> past: can you file a bug to unsupport it?
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930. # [09:25] <past> glandium: you mean unsupport symlink in general? It's been a huge time saver so far!
931. # [09:25] <glandium> past: only flat,jar and omni are supported, and the actual format under dist/bin is flat or symlink depending on the OS
932. # [09:26] <glandium> --enable-chrome-format now only influences the format of the make package end result
933. # [09:27] <glandium> oh you already filed a bug
934. # [09:27] <past> glandium: so symlink is being used by default on Linux/Mac?
935. # [09:27] <glandium> past: yes
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938. # [09:28] <glandium> ah, different bug
939. # [09:29] <past> glandium: maybe I should add a 'symlink' branch that errors as well with a deprecation warning?
940. # [09:29] <glandium> past: that should be done at the configure.in level, not packager.py
941. # [09:30] <past> ah, ok
942. # [09:30] <glandium> past: remove "symlink" and "both"
943. # [09:31] <glandium> past: you may want to indicate in the error message that symlink or flat is used in dist/bin, whatever the final format is for packaging
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963. # [09:51] <glazou> bonjour
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973. # [10:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61b8a5101c5b - Dão Gottwald - Bug 764971 - Hide progress indicators in tabs for chrome pages. r=ttaubert
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1011. # [10:36] <@smaug> hyvää huomenta
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1019. # [10:44] <glazou> mikä hätänä, smaug ?
1020. # [10:44] <Cork> if an img tag disappears with specific css rule combinations (border-radius and opacity), what component should it be filed under?
1021. # [10:45] <Cork> core > layout?
1022. # [10:45] <glazou> most probably yes
1023. # [10:45] <@smaug> glazou: eh, that doesn't quite work in this context :)
1024. # [10:45] <glazou> damn:)
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1033. # [10:50] <@smaug> anyone going to do a merge soon?
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1074. # [11:17] <past> glandium: do you want me to file a separate bug for the packager.py change?
1075. # [11:17] <glandium> past: no, we don't need to change packager.py at all
1076. # [11:18] <past> glandium: I don't understand; 'mach package' now fails for me without that change
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1080. # [11:19] <glandium> past: remove --enable-chrome-format=symlink
1081. # [11:20] <glandium> past: which your configure.in should already force you to do
1082. # [11:20] <glandium> +change
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1084. # [11:22] <past> glandium: right, I removed that from my .mozconfig, but the args to packager.py I think come from MOZ_CHROME_FILE_FORMAT which is being set to symlink
1085. # [11:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0713793b80b1 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
1086. # [11:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a080b7dba844 - Tim Taubert - Bug 854075 - Use mouseover instead of mouseenter for newtab page; r=jaws
1087. # [11:23] <glandium> past: it comes from MOZ_PACKAGER_FORMAT
1088. # [11:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/362d0632ed67 - Robert Longson - Bug 842630 - Fix out of bounds in nsSVGTextFrame2::ResolvePositions. r=heycam
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1097. # [11:36] <@smaug> so who knows about mach implementation ?
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1104. # [11:41] <glandium> smaug: very little
1105. # [11:41] <glandium> smaug: but try me
1106. # [11:42] <@smaug> just wonder how easy it would be change to not close the browser by default when test is run
1107. # [11:42] <@smaug> or at least add an option
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1110. # [11:45] <@smaug> and also add option to not start running immediately
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1113. # [11:47] <glandium> smaug: currently, the tests are just a make invocation, using what is in testing/testsuite-targets.mk
1114. # [11:47] <glandium> smaug: so adding whatever flag you need to EXTRA_TEST_ARGS should work
1115. # [11:47] <@smaug> ahaa
1116. # [11:48] * @smaug doesn't know what all EXTRA_TEST_ARGS could take
1117. # [11:50] <glandium> smaug: any options that you can give to runtests.py
1118. # [11:51] <@smaug> glandium: well, I didn't have to give any options to runtests.py to make it behave the way I wanted
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1121. # [11:54] <glandium> smaug: testsuite-targets.mk gives --autorun --close-when-done, so you'd need to cancel those
1122. # [11:54] <glandium> i don't think runtests.py supports that
1123. # [11:54] <glandium> smaug: at the moment, the simplest would be to put --autorun --close-when-done in a new variable, replace them with the variable in testsuite-targets.mk, and allow mach to override that variable
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1127. # [11:57] <@smaug> or I just keep using runtests.py
1128. # [11:57] <NeilAway> smaug: do we really cycle collect every .4s?
1129. # [11:57] <@smaug> glandium: what was the command to run that these days
1130. # [11:57] <@smaug> NeilAway: if we think there can be something to collect, then yes
1131. # [11:58] <@smaug> hmm
1132. # [11:58] <@smaug> or is it 6s
1133. # [11:58] <glandium> smaug: $objdir/_virtualenv/bin/python runtests.py
1134. # [11:58] <@smaug> thanks
1135. # [11:58] <glandium> or $objdir/_virtualenv/Scripts/python
1136. # [11:58] <glandium> on windows
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1138. # [11:59] <@smaug> NeilAway: why?
1139. # [12:00] <@smaug> NeilAway: and yes, 6s is the normal-ish interval
1140. # [12:00] <@smaug> but 5% of CCs have 120+s interval
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1142. # [12:04] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
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1144. # [12:04] <Yoric> gps: ping
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1149. # [12:10] <@smaug> hmm, how does mach pick up the objdir
1150. # [12:10] <@smaug> based on the current .mozconfig?
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1153. # [12:14] <glandium> smaug: it's supposed to
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1156. # [12:17] <Optimizer1> what is the final plan to leave main thread for ?
1157. # [12:17] <Optimizer1> (after when downloads also happen on separate thread)
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1160. # [12:19] <mcsmurf> I'm a bit confused, why is this patch https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/1308210aefb4 in the release repository?
1161. # [12:19] <mcsmurf> original checkin/push was on 4th of January on m-c, it moved to m-a on 8th of January (release of FF 18)
1162. # [12:19] <mcsmurf> and then moved to m-b on 19th of February (release of FF 19)
1163. # [12:19] <mcsmurf> what do I get wrong?
1164. # [12:19] <@smaug> Optimizer: ?
1165. # [12:20] <Optimizer> (images on separate threads )
1166. # [12:21] <@smaug> well, need to do as little as possible work in main thread to keep UI responsive
1167. # [12:22] <Optimizer> I know, it was a joke :)
1168. # [12:22] <mcsmurf> "oh" nevermind
1169. # [12:22] <mcsmurf> FF 20 release is being prepared, that is why it's in mozilla-release, duh..
1170. # [12:22] <@smaug> Optimizer: ha. Obviously I haven't got enough coffee today, yet
1171. # [12:23] <Optimizer> smaug: http://t.co/kDTsFvwsSd
1172. # [12:23] <Optimizer> might refresh you
1173. # [12:24] <Optimizer> mcsmurf: as always, get ready for some "Firefox 20 builds leaked before release date" blogs!
1174. # [12:26] <mcsmurf> heh :P
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1176. # [12:28] <mcsmurf> ok, bloggers, listen up: FF 20 leaked at http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/ somewhere
1177. # [12:28] <mcsmurf> you just have to find the right folder :]
1178. # [12:29] <NeilAway> smaug: my error console is flooded with cycle collection messages, it seems to be doing a whole lot of work all the time :s
1179. # [12:30] <darkowlzz> hsivonen: ping!
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1187. # [12:37] <NeilAway> smaug: are there any easy ways to reduce the frequency of cc/gc?
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1189. # [12:39] <@smaug> NeilAway: nsJSEnvironment.cpp has various #defines
1190. # [12:39] <@smaug> NeilAway: but really, CC shouldn't run if there isn't anything to collect
1191. # [12:39] <@smaug> NeilAway: or at least significant amount suspected objects
1192. # [12:40] <NeilAway> smaug: #define is not "easy"
1193. # [12:40] <@smaug> right
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1197. # [12:42] <@smaug> NeilAway: what kind of messages do you get?
1198. # [12:42] <@smaug> how many suspected objects?
1199. # [12:42] <@smaug> and is anything then collected?
1200. # [12:42] <NeilAway> smaug: 14432
1201. # [12:43] <@smaug> NeilAway: suspected?
1202. # [12:43] <@smaug> or collected
1203. # [12:44] <@smaug> 14432 is anyway a lot
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1205. # [12:44] <NeilAway> smaug: ok, so I'm stopped in the debugger at sRemovedPurples += aSuspected - sPreviousSuspectedCount
1206. # [12:44] * mcsmurf suspects Neil has many many tabs open
1207. # [12:44] <NeilAway> smaug: aSuspected is 14432 and sPreviousSuspectedCount is 3786
1208. # [12:45] <NeilAway> mcsmurf: about 30
1209. # [12:45] <mcsmurf> hm, could be worse
1210. # [12:45] <mcsmurf> (the tab count)
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1214. # [12:46] <@smaug> NeilAway: that is tons of suspected objects
1215. # [12:46] <@smaug> so now wonder CC is called
1216. # [12:46] <@smaug> s/now/no/
1217. # [12:48] <@smaug> mcsmurf: well, just having tabs open doesn't affect to CCs, but what the pages in the tabs do does
1218. # [12:48] <@smaug> NeilAway: you're running SM, I assume?
1219. # [12:48] <@smaug> including the email client
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1222. # [12:53] <NeilAway> smaug: yes
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1224. # [12:53] <NeilAway> smaug: but I'm only using the browser
1225. # [12:53] <NeilAway> smaug: in this particular session
1226. # [12:53] <@smaug> k
1227. # [12:54] <@smaug> NeilAway: are there many collected objects?
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1236. # [12:57] <NeilAway> smaug: 2, if I'm reading it correctly
1237. # [12:58] <@smaug> interesting
1238. # [12:58] <@smaug> tons of suspected objects which aren't optimized out by forgetSkippable phase
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1240. # [12:59] <@smaug> I wonder if CC log would tell something useful
1241. # [13:00] <@smaug> maybe not
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1243. # [13:02] <NeilAway> bah, attaching the debugger causes huge console messages to get logged to the debugger, locking up both processes :s
1244. # [13:03] <evilpie> mounir: awesome
1245. # [13:04] <ttaubert> Yoric: pong
1246. # [13:04] <Yoric> ttaubert: hi
1247. # [13:04] <ttaubert> hey!
1248. # [13:04] <Yoric> So, two things.
1249. # [13:04] <Yoric> 1/ I'm currently dividing the session restore patch into smaller chunks that should be easier to review.
1250. # [13:05] * glazou_lunch is now known as glazou
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1252. # [13:05] <Yoric> 2/ I have sent you an e-mail about Snappy^H^H^H^H^H^HPerformance and I'd be glad to receive a reply :)
1253. # [13:06] <ttaubert> 1/ sweet!
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1255. # [13:07] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
1256. # [13:07] <ttaubert> 2/ yes you will :) I read it already. I'll reply later today :)
1257. # [13:07] <ttaubert> Yoric: ^
1258. # [13:08] <Yoric> thanks
1259. # [13:09] <mounir> evilpie: the <input type='file'> changes?
1260. # [13:09] <evilpie> mounir: yep
1261. # [13:10] <mounir> oh :(
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1263. # [13:10] <mounir> I thought you were calling me awesome ;)
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1265. # [13:11] <evilpie> YOU ARE AWESOME
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1279. # [13:23] <jesup> benwa: ping
1280. # [13:23] <BenWa> jesup: pong
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1286. # [13:25] <jesup> BenWa: Hi! I just cc'd you on the infamous nsThread leak bug. We have a fix, but are stuck trying to get a test written with the gtest stuff, and ted fingered you. ;-) I offered a beer at the local brewpub, so that extends to you - though you have a much longer drive to Pennsylvania to collect. :-)
1287. # [13:25] <jesup> bug 835998
1288. # [13:25] <BenWa> Alright Ill take a look
1289. # [13:26] <BenWa> jesup: wrong #
1290. # [13:26] <jesup> thanks! The sheriffs will bless you. Sorry, bug 853998
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1301. # [13:34] <jesup> glandium: ping
1302. # [13:35] <glandium> jesup: pong
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1306. # [13:37] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
1307. # [13:37] <jesup> glandium: hi. ehugg is fighting an apparent Windows PGO memory trashing in bug 837035, and he's struggling with it (though he fixed two unrelated bugs getting MS's AppVerifier to work with Mozilla). Asan shows nothing, and AppVerifier doesn't either
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1309. # [13:38] <jesup> he could use advice/help/guidance if you could look. (He's PDT, so he won't be on for a while yet.)
1310. # [13:39] <jesup> Asan obviously was on Mac and/or Linux
1311. # [13:40] <jesup> We had landed it temporarily before backing out (for PGO and also for other reasons unrelated to failures), and he's been looking at the PGO stuff ever since
1312. # [13:40] <NeilAway> jimm: so, the console service logs messages to the debugger... which chokes if they're very long, should we place a limit on their length?
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1314. # [13:42] <jimm> I've seen those on some sites, really long css related debug output string. is that the same kind of thing you are running into?
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1317. # [13:46] <NeilAway> jimm: yeah, I think it was a CSS warning in a data: url
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1319. # [13:47] <NeilAway> which version(s) of realloc are infallible and which are fallible?
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1321. # [13:48] <jimm> I don't see a problem with limiting that.
1322. # [13:49] <jimm> but I would make the limit fairly large.
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1324. # [13:50] <jesup> glandium: FYI, Michael Tuexen is on of the SCTP protocol spec authors and implementer of the FreeBSD version (which we're using in userspace form in netwerk/sctp/src). He's working actively with us on any issues. The bug manifests itself merely by creating an SCTP association ((or perhaps on shutdown) which with the patch happens on all the PeerConnection tests in M2 and C (dom/media/tests)
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1326. # [13:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a569ac82c36 - Adrian Tamas - Bug 820276 - Robocop: Make editBookmark and checkBookmarkEdit methods available to other tests. r=jmaher
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1330. # [13:53] <glandium> jesup: posted a comment
1331. # [13:53] <glandium> i have no better idea
1332. # [13:53] <jesup> thanks
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1339. # [13:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/508256893af7 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 854904: fix undefined sockaddr_in, sockaddr_in6. r=qDot
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1370. # [14:11] <JosiahOne> Is there a bug # for Reader on Firefox Desktop?
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1376. # [14:14] <margaret> JosiahOne: jaws would know
1377. # [14:14] <JosiahOne> margaret: Alright, thanks.
1378. # [14:14] <Unfocused> JosiahOne: bug 795968
1379. # [14:14] <JosiahOne> jaws: Ping.
1380. # [14:14] <JosiahOne> jaws: Unping.
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1382. # [14:14] <JosiahOne> Unfocused: Thank you.
1383. # [14:15] <Unfocused> :)
1384. # [14:15] <margaret> Unfocused also knows :)
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1386. # [14:15] <JosiahOne> Oh, and jaws is on vacation. Good for him.
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1390. # [14:17] <ejpbruel> anyone here (other than bz) knows about doc shell?
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1393. # [14:20] <JosiahOne> My goodness the latest Safari is glitchy.
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1399. # [14:21] * JosiahOne Thinks about filling some bugs for them...
1400. # [14:21] <JosiahOne> Nah.
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1405. # [14:27] <tbsaunde> ejpbruel: jlebar|mtg maybe (smaug seems to be away too)
1406. # [14:27] <ejpbruel> jlebar: hi
1407. # [14:27] <ejpbruel> tbsaunde: thx!
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1413. # [14:29] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: so, wrt the char16_t discussion last night I suspect the answer is how much you care that char16_t looks anything like the spec one
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1415. # [14:30] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: you see the Char16.h in mfbt? that's how much I care
1416. # [14:31] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I read it, but don't see how that's an answer
1417. # [14:31] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: we get a MOZ_UTF16 stringifier and char16_t is decltype(MOZ_UTF16("")[0])
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1419. # [14:32] <RyanVM> hmm, strongly considering hiding winxp xpcshell until this timeout situation gets resolved
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1422. # [14:33] <jesup> BenWa: thanks
1423. # [14:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/805aff291ec2 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 854538 - Add a ::-moz-range-progress pseudo-element to <input type=range> for Firefox OS. r=dholbert
1424. # [14:33] <BenWa> np
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1426. # [14:34] <jesup> RyanVM: we landed the buffer underran assertion fix last night; I'm running a try with all the suppressions in dom/media/test/mochitest removed (might be overkill if there were other assertions at times)
1427. # [14:34] <RyanVM> jesup: rock on!
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1429. # [14:35] <jesup> RyanVM: A scan of builds following it didn't show any underrans, and they were pretty frequent (in small numbers)
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1431. # [14:36] <jaws> JosiahOne: this is the actual bug you want, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558882
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1433. # [14:37] <JosiahOne> jaws: Oh yes. Thanks!
1434. # [14:37] <RyanVM> jesup: that's great news, thanks again for all the work you and your team have done on these issues
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1436. # [14:38] <JosiahOne> Oh, I see. jaws, your on vacation on the 30th. I see.
1437. # [14:39] * JosiahOne I upset that he just put " I see" twice...
1438. # [14:39] <JosiahOne> Curse it.
1439. # [14:39] <JosiahOne> s/I/Is
1440. # [14:39] <jesup> RyanVM: the real win is when we land the fix for bug 853998/833769. Which I'm hoping will be today now that BenWa helped with the test code
1441. # [14:40] <JosiahOne> Ah!!!
1442. # [14:40] <JosiahOne> s/your/you're
1443. # [14:40] <BenWa> jesup: Note that we don't run GTest yet but I'm hoping to fix it this month
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1445. # [14:40] <BenWa> on buildbot that is
1446. # [14:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b835cf6121f5 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 854971 - Handle action/back gamepad keys properly when entering URLs on the awesome screen. r=lucasr
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1454. # [14:49] <Yoric> Is there a way I can launch a nsIThread from JavaScript in xpcshell?
1455. # [14:49] <Yoric> I don't even need to use it, it's just to test the histogram that counts the number of threads launched.
1456. # [14:49] <Yoric> Mmmhh...
1457. # [14:50] <Yoric> Well, I could just launch workers, they are bound to be backed by nsIThread.
1458. # [14:50] <froydnj> Yoric: Services.tm.newThread should work
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1460. # [14:50] <Yoric> froydnj: Does that still work?
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1462. # [14:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28a9bc38d441 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 854996 - Bump mozcrash version used by b2g emulators to 0.5, r=edmorley
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1464. # [14:50] <Yoric> I'll just launch workers.
1465. # [14:50] <Yoric> Thanks.
1466. # [14:50] <froydnj> Yoric: "still"? is the thread manager not active in xpcshell?
1467. # [14:51] <Yoric> Well, it's not active in chrome.
1468. # [14:51] <Yoric> Let me rephrase.
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1471. # [14:51] <Yoric> It used to be possible to simply instantiate a nsIThread from JS, and iirc, that feature disappeared when we added support for Chrome Workers.
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1477. # [14:55] <froydnj> Yoric: huh, interesting. I don't see anything suggesting .newThread has gone away, but perhaps there is deeper magic at work here
1478. # [14:55] <NeilAway> RyanVM: why the CC?
1479. # [14:56] <RyanVM> NeilAway: cloned the dependent bug
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1481. # [14:58] <Yoric> froydnj: Well, it seems to work.
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1502. # [15:15] <ekr> BenWa: ping
1503. # [15:15] <BenWa> ekr: pong
1504. # [15:16] <ekr> So the problem with GTEST was that it just didn't work
1505. # [15:16] <ekr> BenWa: I added a GTEST_CPPSRCS value to my Makefile.in and my files still didn't ocmpile
1506. # [15:16] <BenWa> ekr: What was the compile error?
1507. # [15:17] <ekr> No error, it didn't even try
1508. # [15:17] <BenWa> then you forgot enable-gtest
1509. # [15:17] <ekr> No, I have that.
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1511. # [15:18] <BenWa> what platform are you on?
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1513. # [15:19] <ekr> Mac
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1519. # [15:19] <BenWa> Then it should compile. Check for typos in the makefile or how you enabled gtest
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1521. # [15:19] <BenWa> obj-ff-64gdb/config.status should tell you if it's configured
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1523. # [15:20] <ekr> (''' MOZ_ENABLE_GTEST ''', ' 1 '),
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1526. # [15:21] <ekr> And it's not just my tests. None of the gtest tests seem to be compiling
1527. # [15:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/771c895e8b55 - Patrick McManus - bug 848139 - telemetry for tls server hello size r=honzab
1528. # [15:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43a90cebe6e7 - Patrick McManus - bug 845934 Telemetry for TLS Resumption rates r=honzab
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1535. # [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19b7b1c5c109 - Trevor Saunders - bug 853682 - remove a include of the chromium gfx rect because its the only thing causing us to need the chromium gfx rect stuff r=bsmedberg
1536. # [15:25] <BenWa> ekr: Is objdir/testing/gtest/ empty?
1537. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/697f1b4dad33 - Trevor Saunders - bug 853682 - rm some vestiges of the chromium build system r=bsmedberg
1538. # [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/965ca73d0073 - Trevor Saunders - bug 853682 - remove most of the chromium gfx stuff since it isn't used we need to keep a few headers because they're included, but we don't even need to define the
1539. # [15:26] <firebot> functions they declare. r=bsmedberg
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1541. # [15:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/712467cc54f6 - Trevor Saunders - bug 853682 - rm some chromium keyboard stuff and a scoped_vector thing both of which we don't use r=bsmedberg
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1543. # [15:26] <ekr> No, it has some stuff
1544. # [15:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ccf47cd7ca2 - Trevor Saunders - bug 853682 - rm ipc/chromium/src/base/crypto/ which wasn't being built r=bsmedberg
1545. # [15:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18d7ba4991b4 - Trevor Saunders - bug 853682 - rm ipc/chromium/src/base/data/ r=bsmedberg
1546. # [15:26] <ekr> Hang on
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1551. # [15:34] <firebot> Check-in:
1552. # [15:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a49b82d16504 - Till Schneidereit - Bug 853075 - continue with next FunctionSpec instead of aborting loop upon encountering self-hosted methods during self-hosting global initialization in
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1554. # [15:34] <firebot> JS_DefineFunctions. r=jonco
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1557. # [15:35] <glandium> crt issues are always so much fun
1558. # [15:35] <glandium> (msvcrt)
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1564. # [15:36] <@bz> Yeah, that's why we need LCDs.
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1580. # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c2c54c2b5da - Till Schneidereit - Bug 853417 - add comment explaining why we don't need to check for self-hosted scripts in ScriptDebugEpilogue. r=me
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1589. # [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43e3534fcf86 - Benoit Girard - Bug 853896 - Turn off MOZ_EVENT_TRACE when profiling. r=ted
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1594. # [15:51] <ekr> benwa: here is my change…. https://bug853998.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=730154
1595. # [15:51] <ekr> And it doesn't seem to be trying to compile the file at all
1596. # [15:51] <BenWa> ekr: Did you find your problem?
1597. # [15:51] <ekr> BenWa: no.
1598. # [15:51] <ekr> and it does seem to have built some gtests
1599. # [15:51] <BenWa> ekr: do you have enable-tests?
1600. # [15:52] <ekr> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2250854
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1604. # [15:53] <ekr> and like I say, it seems to be building stuff in objdir/testing/gtest
1605. # [15:53] <BenWa> ekr: what happens when you run firefox -unittest?
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1609. # [15:55] <ekr> It runs some tests and then crashes in the TiledLayerBuffer tests
1610. # [15:56] <BenWa> ekr: Ok so then its just your makefile that fails
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1613. # [15:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed90c16f9b22 - Sunny - Bug 854350 - [OS.File] Clean up code by using default arguments. r=Yoric
1614. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1562dc5d65c8 - Kent James - Bug 853097 - Move AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED to fix build bustage. r=ted
1615. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb210464e583 - Julian Viereck - Bug 853033 - Change UUID as followup to bug 743252. r=jlebar
1616. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef6fba6c2878 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 852143 - Write strings efficiently in OS.File. r=froydnj
1617. # [15:57] <BenWa> ekr: Ohh I bet it's because xpcom/test/Makefile.in doesn't get a library or whatnot so it doesn't compile CPP sources for it
1618. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3a163f9a989 - Jan Beich - Bug 851880 - Build OdinMonkey on more Unices. r=luke
1619. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f15682d66f5f - Cykesiopka - Bug 802989 - [OS.File] Fix documentation of OS.Path. r=Yoric
1620. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e518464adf03 - Jan Beich - Bug 851880 - Consistently assume same ABI. r=luke
1621. # [15:57] <BenWa> ekr: Yes that's your problem
1622. # [15:58] <ekr> OK, so the answer is…?
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1624. # [15:58] <ekr> Add a library?
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1627. # [15:58] <BenWa> ekr: do the CPPSRCS files get compiled?
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1630. # [16:00] <ekr> checking
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1639. # [16:03] <ekr> BenWa: yes
1640. # [16:04] <BenWa> ekr: Your best bet is to poke around rules.mk and see why it's not working. Start by checking that the GTEST_CPPSRCS rule is being hit
1641. # [16:04] <BenWa> TestSyncRunnable.o is not generated right?
1642. # [16:04] <glandium> there is no kind of equivalent to objdump -t with msvc is it? (list of all symbols, not only those exported)
1643. # [16:04] <ekr> It's not even trying to compile it
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1649. # [16:05] <@khuey> glandium: on a shared library?
1650. # [16:06] <glandium> khuey: yeah
1651. # [16:06] <glandium> or an executable, but my current use case is a shared lib
1652. # [16:06] <@khuey> glandium: not afaik
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1655. # [16:07] <@khuey> dumpbin -SYMBOLS only works on .obj files
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1657. # [16:07] <@khuey> there may be some sort of pdb tool that does it
1658. # [16:07] <@khuey> idk
1659. # [16:07] <glandium> i guess that could be helpful http://code.google.com/p/pdbdump/
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1661. # [16:09] <glandium> no module named comtypes :(
1662. # [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1e67d5f1708 - Sam Foster - Bug 855270 - splice off trailing null entries from NewTabUtils pinnedLinks when unpinning. r=ttaubert
1663. # [16:09] <glandium> we don't have comtypes in our python, apparently
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1665. # [16:09] <glandium> ah it's not standard python
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1667. # [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c5b80c5a7f5 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 855302 - don't use PR_FALSE in dictionary_helper_gen.py; r=smaug
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1674. # [16:13] <RyanVM> jimm: ping
1675. # [16:13] <jimm> RyanVM: pong
1676. # [16:13] <RyanVM> jimm: FWIW, it would be cool if during your reviews (especially for new contributors) you pointed them to our patch submission guidelines (ie bug 852409)
1677. # [16:14] <RyanVM> jimm: would make it a lot easier for me when checking in
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1680. # [16:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5c4adef1523 - Julian Seward - Bug 854810 - Use shared-libraries-*.cc instead of home-grown equivalents, r=bgirard
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1682. # [16:14] <jimm> RyanVM: was there something wrong with the patch file?
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1685. # [16:14] <RyanVM> jimm: missing all the hg header info
1686. # [16:15] <jimm> oh I see, export headers.
1687. # [16:15] <@ted> glandium: i would suspect that that pdbdump code is just doing mostly the same thing as dump_syms
1688. # [16:15] <RyanVM> jimm: you can just point them to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mercurial_FAQ#How_can_I_generate_a_patch_for_somebody_else_to_check-in_for_me.3F
1689. # [16:15] <jimm> RyanVM: will do
1690. # [16:15] <glandium> ted: now you mention it, dump_syms would work for me
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1692. # [16:16] <@ted> looks like it's a little more thorough, but yeah, it's just using the DIA SDK
1693. # [16:16] <RyanVM> jimm: thanks :) - I'll mention it in that bug
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1695. # [16:16] <glandium> ted: see, it would really help to be able to build dump_syms
1696. # [16:16] <glandium> no module named winnt ; wtf
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1700. # [16:18] <glandium> ted: so, where can i get dump_syms.exe? :)
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1703. # [16:20] <paul> I'm running into this error when trying to run mochitests: src/config/rules.mk:45: backend.mk: No such file or directory
1704. # [16:20] <paul> make: *** No rule to make target `backend.mk'. Stop.
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1706. # [16:20] <paul> not sure what's going on… it used to work fine
1707. # [16:20] <nalexander> paul: there's a ticket for that, let me search.
1708. # [16:20] <paul> bug 851975?
1709. # [16:20] <nalexander> paul: I believe if you run $OBJDIR/config.status, it should fix itself.
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1711. # [16:21] <@ted> glandium: there are copies in toolkit/crashreporter/tools/win32
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1713. # [16:21] <paul> nalexander: "Reticulating splines..."
1714. # [16:21] <paul> what is that?
1715. # [16:21] <@ted> heh :)
1716. # [16:21] <nalexander> paul: a little in joke.
1717. # [16:21] <glandium> ted: yurk
1718. # [16:21] <@khuey> you need to play more simcity
1719. # [16:21] <@ted> never played SimCity?
1720. # [16:22] <nalexander> paul: but config.status is reparsing all the moz.build files and writing backend.mk.
1721. # [16:22] <@khuey> paul: did you delete a directory in your objdir?
1722. # [16:22] <paul> nalexander: it worked. Thank you :)
1723. # [16:22] <nalexander> paul: what khuey said.
1724. # [16:22] <glandium> btw, the humble bundle installer for android reticulates splines too
1725. # [16:22] <paul> I didn't.
1726. # [16:22] <@ted> heh
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1733. # [16:26] <Bas> ted: ping
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1736. # [16:27] <nalexander> paul: you might look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=848530
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1740. # [16:31] <@ted> Bas: pong
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1742. # [16:31] <ekr> BenWa: what am I looking for here? Is there a way to instrument the rules evaluation?
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1744. # [16:31] <Bas> ted: I had a patch recently which added a new command line handler, but it seems in our buildbot builds the command line flag isn't working. BenWa mentioned there might be something going on with it not being packaged, how do I make it be packaged? :)
1745. # [16:32] <glandium> ted: what is the information that allows to get the FILE corresponding to a FUNC?
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1747. # [16:32] <@ted> Bas: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/installer/package-manifest.in
1748. # [16:33] <@ted> glandium: http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/source/browse/trunk/src/common/windows/pdb_source_line_writer.cc#203
1749. # [16:33] <@ted> glandium: it just does findLinesByRVA with the RVA of the function
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1751. # [16:34] <BenWa> ekr: I just modify the rules.mk to have problems and see if they get hit lol
1752. # [16:34] <Bas> ted: So if I have this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/recording/ , what do I add to that package manifst file?
1753. # [16:34] <glandium> ted: i mean, in the dump_syms output
1754. # [16:34] <BenWa> there's a better way I imagine
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1756. # [16:34] <BenWa> If your CPPSRCS are getting compiled then so should your GTEST_CPPSRCS
1757. # [16:34] <@ted> glandium: it just enumerates functions by rva, prints the function, then enumerates the lines for that RVA and prints them
1758. # [16:35] <@ted> Bas: whatever winds up in components/ needs to be listed
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1760. # [16:35] <glandium> ah 4th column in the data after FUNC
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1762. # [16:35] <@ted> glandium: oh, sorry
1763. # [16:35] <Bas> ted: Ah yes, I think I found it, thank you, can I put you up for a quick review on this?
1764. # [16:35] <@ted> didn't know exactly what you meant
1765. # [16:35] <@ted> Bas: sure
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1769. # [16:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cbb678c722d - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 853019 - Web Activities' regexp should have a behaviour closer to HTML's pattern. r=mounir
1770. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d6cde6ea21d - Brandon Waterloo - Bug 853909 - Add test code for gesture image rotation. r=jaws
1771. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83b480db9bec - Norbert Lindenberg - Bug 851763 - Increase maxbytes for JSRuntime in IDBObjectStore and testGCOutOfMemory. r=Waldo
1772. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f63ce344beca - Xin Zhang - Bug 82301 - Show all history should expand Today history folder by default. r=mak
1773. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbc545c94cea - Steve Singer - Bug 851859 - Set jemalloc's page size based on the architecture instead of assuming it's always 4kb. r=jlebar
1774. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/392c44e25cd2 - Mina Almasry - Bug 582783 - Move windows.h include and undef LoadImage to gfxWindowsSurface.h. r=joe
1775. # [16:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf185b01f0ca - Jim Chen - Bug 853819 - Use focused window to process SetInputContext and GetInputContext. r=cpeterson
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1777. # [16:37] <BenWa> ekr: ahh nevermind
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1779. # [16:37] <BenWa> this make file is used to create a simple program
1780. # [16:37] <BenWa> GTEST wont work there
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1782. # [16:38] <BenWa> you need to create a new subdirectory to host the GTEST
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1784. # [16:38] <@ted> build system :-(
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1786. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> ted, hey, you should be happy
1787. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> ted, you don't own it anymore
1788. # [16:38] <@ted> srsly
1789. # [16:39] <firebot> Check-in:
1790. # [16:39] <BenWa> But working on the build system at mozilla is equivalent to having immunity :P
1791. # [16:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a59fb1ccd6b - Dão Gottwald - Bug 855273 - Clean up how we determine whether the location should be displayed for new tabs (customizing browser.newtab.url hides the URL for new tabs, displays it when
1792. # [16:39] <firebot> de- and re-selecting the tab). r=ttaubert
1793. # [16:39] <Ms2ger> BenWa, from sanity?
1794. # [16:39] <BenWa> Well that's the cost you have to pay
1795. # [16:40] <glandium> Ms2ger: i think i didn't have sanity before touching the build system
1796. # [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4967844a6ae2 - Raymond Lee - Bug 852040 - Apply use of BookmarkJSONUtils.importFromURL r=mbrubeck
1797. # [16:40] <Ms2ger> glandium, well, something must have driven you to touch it :)
1798. # [16:41] <ekr> BenWa: so like xpcom/gtest?
1799. # [16:41] <BenWa> ekr: Yes
1800. # [16:41] <ekr> thank you, i will do it.
1801. # [16:41] <BenWa> ekr: I think it will need something similar to that: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=723575&action=diff#a/gfx/tests/Makefile.in_sec2
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1803. # [16:42] <ekr> thanks. will give it a try
1804. # [16:42] <BenWa> ekr: I really wanted to avoid doing this but apparently the build system can't really support it :(
1805. # [16:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44d4d2234a6e - Sam Foster - Bug 808770 - Implement pin/unpin of Top Sites, new Site model and refresh method on richgriditem. r=mbrubeck
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1814. # [16:48] <ekr> BenWay: the code in gfx/tests/Makefile.in seems to have changed pretty racidally
1815. # [16:48] <ekr> radically
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1817. # [16:48] <Bas> ted: Hrm, so now it says: 'No chrome package registered for chrome://recording/content/recording.xul' even though I added @BINPATH@/chrome/recording/content/* too ... is there something else I need to add to have it registered?
1818. # [16:49] <@ted> i don't know offhand
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1820. # [16:49] <@ted> possibly something in a manifest
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1823. # [16:50] <@ted> hrmph
1824. # [16:50] <ekr> BenWa: do we have a current example?
1825. # [16:50] <@ted> why does the prefservice assert on me when i AddStrongObserver(this) ?
1826. # [16:50] <@ted> (asserts during the pref change callback, in nsCOMPtr)
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1833. # [16:53] <Bas> Who might know about chrome registration?
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1840. # [16:55] <glandium> Bas: i do
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1845. # [16:55] <glandium> Bas: you probably didn't add chrome/recording.manifest
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1847. # [16:56] <Bas> glandium: Oh noes... you're probably right :(
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1849. # [16:56] <Bas> Sorry for being ignorant here :)
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1851. # [16:57] <Bas> glandium: I should've just figured that out from looking at pdfjs.manifest's inclusion :)
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1853. # [16:58] <Mitch> Has anyone seen 32-bit Windows Firefox nightlies get really janky lately?
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1859. # [16:59] <Bas> glandium ted: Yay! Success! Much appreciated.
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1864. # [17:00] <jlebar> joe: ping
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1870. # [17:01] <@ted> Bas: nsp
1871. # [17:01] <@ted> np
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1873. # [17:01] <@ted> d'oh, my class wasn't implementing QI apparently
1874. # [17:01] <@ted> (to nsIObserver)
1875. # [17:01] <@ted> Mitch: profile it!
1876. # [17:01] <jlebar> joe: wanted to ask who I should talk to about ogl memory usage issues on b2g.
1877. # [17:01] <jlebar> joe: Or s/memory usage issues/leaks/
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1879. # [17:02] <@ted> Mitch: seriously, install the profiler extension
1880. # [17:02] <Bas> ted: See bug 854468 for a real quick r? :)
1881. # [17:02] <Mitch> ted: Oh, I thought you meant the builtin profiler thing before you said extension.
1882. # [17:02] <@ted> Bas: np
1883. # [17:02] <@ted> Mitch: it is built in, but it has no UI by default
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1886. # [17:03] <@ted> the extension just exposes UI
1887. # [17:03] <@ted> then just ctrl+shift+O when you feel janky
1888. # [17:03] <@ted> and you can upload a profile and get someone to look at it
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1890. # [17:05] <Mitch> ted: That's weird. I see the profiler in the Web Developer menu without an addon.
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1893. # [17:06] <@ted> Mitch: oh, i think that's just the webdev version
1894. # [17:06] <@ted> shares code as well
1895. # [17:06] <@ted> but i'm not sure if it does what you want
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1901. # [17:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3afa561d8af - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset ef6fba6c2878 (bug 852143) for mochitest-other orange on a CLOSED TREE.
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1926. # [17:18] <Yoric> RyanVM: Thanks for the catch. Sorry about that.
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1933. # [17:20] <Mitch> ted: I've got the profile of planet.mozilla.org simply loading. Now...who's the "someone"? One of the #perf people?
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1940. # [17:23] <@smaug> Mitch: what is the context? slow page load?
1941. # [17:23] <RyanVM> Yoric: I realized after backing you out that it was probably the other one. Oh well.
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1943. # [17:24] <Yoric> Well, I wrote the one and reviewed the other.
1944. # [17:24] <Yoric> So I'm certainly guilty of something :)
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1947. # [17:24] <jesup> "profiler" is a horribly overloaded term...
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1952. # [17:26] <Mitch> smaug: Sluggish page load. Becoming unresponsive to events like scrolling sometimes. Even the throbber hangs at some points. This is all during the load of planet.mozilla.org.
1953. # [17:26] <Mitch> http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=2bba22a9ab116a5e5711b2eb18ce798d0eb7c1f4
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1955. # [17:26] <Mitch> That's the profile.
1956. # [17:27] <@bz> That profile doesn't show any particular event loop issues
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1960. # [17:28] <@bz> That said, what time _is_ spent seems to largely be in the url classifier or something
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1964. # [17:29] <@smaug> odd profile
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1990. # [17:38] <gps> Yoric: you pinged?
1991. # [17:38] <@ted> Mitch: as you can see, putting a profile here is usually sufficient
1992. # [17:38] <Yoric> gps: Yes, I did.
1993. # [17:38] <@ted> that being said, that profile doesn't show a lot of jank
1994. # [17:38] <@ted> which is odd
1995. # [17:39] <Yoric> gps: Give me one minute.
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1997. # [17:39] <gps> if one of the perma-sheriffs isn't around, does an inbound merge happen?
1998. # [17:40] <Ms2ger`> No
1999. # [17:40] <armenzg> bsmedberg: ping
2000. # [17:40] <gps> well, I may just do this myself!
2001. # [17:40] <Ms2ger`> Unless joe is around, but then he makes a mess of it all, and doesn't do it again
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2007. # [17:43] <armenzg> anyone knows where the resolution wrt to win64 builds was discussed?
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2010. # [17:45] <philor> armenzg: a lot of it was in m.d.a.firefox, in a thread with the summary "Update on turning off 64-bit Windows builds" which in the first message said "Discontinue the win64 tests and on-checkin builds"
2011. # [17:46] <philor> but since it also went to .planning, and people can't manage followup-to, there's a bunch in there too
2012. # [17:46] <armenzg> thanks philor
2013. # [17:46] <spohl> When a constructor calls NS_NewThread and the new object is only usable if the call to NS_NewThread is successful, how should failure be communicated?
2014. # [17:46] <spohl> exception? returning null somehow?
2015. # [17:46] * philor wonders how many of the other things in there, like disabling crash-reporter and making everything CTP, actually happened
2016. # [17:46] <Mitch> Interpretive dance.
2017. # [17:46] * @ted lunches
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2021. # [17:48] <tbsaunde> spohl: well C++ constructors can't fail so your only real option is an out arg
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2023. # [17:48] <tbsaunde> or NS_RuntimeAbort() or which ever thing causes a crash debug builds I would think
2024. # [17:49] <tbsaunde> s/debug/release/
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2029. # [17:50] <froydnj> spohl: or move the NS_NewThread call to an ::Init method and you can return success/failure from the Init method
2030. # [17:50] * NeilAway wonders what would have happened had he clicked "Debug script" ;-)
2031. # [17:50] <jesup> spohl: MOZ_CRASH()? 1/2 :-)
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2033. # [17:51] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
2034. # [17:51] <jesup> froydnj++ if you believe this is a recoverable error.... which it likely isn't in practice
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2037. # [17:52] <spohl> tbsaunde, froydnj, jesup: thanks! It does seem like an unrecoverable error, aside from trying to create the thread again.
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2040. # [17:53] <jesup> spohl: and that's not likely to work. MOZ_CRASH() IMHO.
2041. # [17:53] <spohl> tbsaunde, froydnj, jesup: so, we're okay to crash in this scenario?
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2043. # [17:53] <tbsaunde> jesup: well, depending on what you need the thread for you could abort whatever your trying to do
2044. # [17:53] <spohl> jesup: is MOZ_CRASH() preferable over crashing on a null dereference when trying to dispatch an event to the non-existant thread?
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2047. # [17:55] <tbsaunde> jesup: which is probably possible for creating a worker for js or something, but probably not for creating the timer thread ;-)
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2049. # [17:55] <spohl> tbsaunde: the thread is used for async image encoding. it doesn't seem like a crucial task, but since this implementation is supposed to replace the synchronous implementation, we don't have one to fall back to
2050. # [17:56] <jesup> MOZ_CRASH() adds a minor amount of code. (true) null-derefs are safe but maybe more confusing in cases.
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2053. # [17:57] <cpeterson> MOZ_CRASH() informs people reading or debugging the code that "we do not handle null pointers."
2054. # [17:57] <nemo> Man. why does about:memory lie about memory usage
2055. # [17:57] <nemo> er. *image* memory usage
2056. # [17:58] <nemo> I fire up fresh browser, single tab to a large image on my site
2057. # [17:58] <nemo> │ ├───1.86 MB (02.30%) -- top(http://m8y.org/images/temp.png, id=8)
2058. # [17:58] <nemo> that size is way too small
2059. # [17:58] <nemo> 9.30 MB ── gfx-surface-image
2060. # [17:58] <nemo> that's more accurate, but too general
2061. # [17:58] <spohl> jesup, cpeterson: thanks! I'll run with that.
2062. # [17:58] <jesup> I'll note that NS_NewThread() can only fail on out of memory, or failure of Init() - and that only fails with out-of-memory....
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2067. # [17:59] <nemo> and sure 'nuff, close the tab and gfx-surface-image drops like a rock
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2070. # [18:00] <tbsaunde> jesup: yeah, was just looking at that, we should just make it explicitly infalible :)
2071. # [18:00] <tbsaunde> and crash if the nspr goo fails
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2073. # [18:00] <tbsaunde> cpeterson: yeah, but adding it all of clutters tuff up
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2075. # [18:00] <tbsaunde> err, adding it all over clutters stuff up
2076. # [18:01] <ekr_> smaug, jst, bz, abr, jesup, mreavy: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1afedd6f40b604c59ff15176a382eed7343c8b52?authuser=0&hl=en
2077. # [18:01] <spohl> jesup, tbsaunde: here is a log with NS_NewThread failing, if anyone's interested: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21131765&tree=Try&full=1#error2
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2079. # [18:01] <@smaug> never used google hangout
2080. # [18:01] <@smaug> trying
2081. # [18:01] <cpeterson> tbsaunde: good point. Maybe just at API boundaries to help callers, not necessarily everywhere in the code base :)
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2084. # [18:01] <ekr_> smaug: it's very exciting
2085. # [18:02] <nemo> smaug: I like the fact they take the trouble to ensure linux compatibility.
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2089. # [18:02] <cpeterson> smaug: Google Hangout used Vidyo's tech :)
2090. # [18:02] <nemo> smaug: looking forward to once Firefox stable has the new AV stuff and google hangout does too, tho, since it doesn't work in ubuntu on my chromebook so well
2091. # [18:02] <@smaug> hmm, Google wants me to activate G+
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2093. # [18:03] <ekr_> smaug, yeah, you have to do that.
2094. # [18:03] <Bas> A windows build started, can we re-open inbound?
2095. # [18:03] <@smaug> grr
2096. # [18:03] * @smaug creates some dummy account then
2097. # [18:03] <Bas> smaud ekr_: Wahahaha
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2099. # [18:03] <Bas> That's hilariously sad.
2100. # [18:03] <Mavericks> smaug: yes disappointing
2101. # [18:03] <spohl> tbsaunde: so you're saying I shouldn't use MOZ_CRASH and we're fine with a dereference of a NULL nsCOMPtr in this (out-of-memory) case?
2102. # [18:04] * kmoir-afk is now known as kmoir
2103. # [18:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56e0d7ad86f2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 6580ca3028de (bug 845546) for B2G xpcshell failures on a CLOSED TREE.
2104. # [18:05] <ekr_> mccr8: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1afedd6f40b604c59ff15176a382eed7343c8b52?authuser=0&hl=en
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2109. # [18:06] <@smaug> whaat?
2110. # [18:06] <tbsaunde> spohl: I'd say its up to your judgement
2111. # [18:06] <mccr8> thanks
2112. # [18:06] <@smaug> ekr_: do I need to install some plugin?
2113. # [18:06] <ekr_> sicking: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1afedd6f40b604c59ff15176a382eed7343c8b52?authuser=0&hl=en
2114. # [18:06] <ekr_> smaug, yes there is a plugin
2115. # [18:07] <@smaug> uh
2116. # [18:07] <@smaug> ok, /me creates a new FF profile
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2118. # [18:07] <ekr_> well, the whole point of webrtc is so you won't have to do that...
2119. # [18:07] <spohl> tbsaunde: great, thanks for your help!
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2126. # [18:08] <abr> mccr8: Are you tring to join?
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2128. # [18:08] <mccr8> abr: yes, I'm getting error messages telling me to reinstall a plugin
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2132. # [18:08] <mccr8> okay chrome is working. ;)
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2134. # [18:09] <abr> The good news is that, when WebRTC is done, we can do this all without plugins. :)
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2137. # [18:09] <@smaug> couldn't we just use skype for now?
2138. # [18:09] <Ms2ger> But Microsoft!
2139. # [18:09] <@smaug> ok, plugin installation didn't work
2140. # [18:10] <abr> smaug -- I don't think that's likely to go over very well with this crowd.
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2142. # [18:10] * @smaug tries chrome
2143. # [18:10] <ekr_> We can call you on a PSTN line, I think
2144. # [18:10] <abr> Can you run Chrome or Chromium?
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2168. # [18:17] <Bas> Ms2ger: Last I checked, microsoft didn't force you to use any of their social crap to get Skype.
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2170. # [18:17] <Bas> Unlike Google :p
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2174. # [18:19] <jlebar> Under what circumstances is x == null true, but x === null false?
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2176. # [18:19] <jlebar> Is it just for x === undefined?
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2178. # [18:20] <Waldo> bz: do we still store DOM nodes as arrays? any idea what the status is of maybe making that a linked list, for consistency with frames?
2179. # [18:20] <@gavin> jlebar: yes
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2181. # [18:20] <jlebar> gavin: thanks
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2184. # [18:21] <@bz> Waldo: We store them as both
2185. # [18:21] <@bz> waldo: the status is that all code that assumes that indexing into the list is O(1) needs to be fixed to not do that
2186. # [18:22] <@bz> waldo: there are some bugs, but it's being low priority...
2187. # [18:22] <Waldo> bz: and we plan to remove the indexing mode at some point?
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2189. # [18:22] <Waldo> there is a discussion in #webkit which I am attempting to enlighten as to Gecko plans :-)
2190. # [18:22] <@bz> Waldo: ah
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2192. # [18:22] <@bz> Waldo: Why do they care? ;)
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2194. # [18:23] <@bz> waldo: but in general as a long-term plan it might be nice
2195. # [18:23] <@bz> waldo: I think at this point long-term is comparable timeframes to servo... ;)
2196. # [18:23] <Waldo> bz: <esprehn> there have been talks at time about moving children into a vector in webkit and storing an index into the vector for next/prev
2197. # [18:23] <mounir> RyanVM: waiting for a windows build to start or to be finished?
2198. # [18:23] <@bz> waldo: interesting
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2200. # [18:23] <mounir> RyanVM: cause we have a windows build running according to tbpl for the second push to last
2201. # [18:23] <@bz> waldo: so that fails for anonymous kids, obviously
2202. # [18:24] <Waldo> bz: <esprehn> abucur: incidentally Gecko stores child nodes in an array while we keep a linked list. So childNodes.length and childNodeCount are O(n)
2203. # [18:24] <@bz> waldo: But then again so does various other stuff
2204. # [18:24] <Waldo> bz: which is lie-ish according to you :-)
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2207. # [18:24] <@bz> waldo: well, no
2208. # [18:24] <Waldo> "incomplete" then
2209. # [18:24] <@bz> waldo: very much incomplete
2210. # [18:24] <RyanVM> mounir: the push after that still hasn't started a build after 20 minutes, which tells me we're just going to fall right behind again
2211. # [18:24] <@bz> waldo: since keeping a length of list alongside the list is a trivial operation...
2212. # [18:25] <Waldo> anyway, enlightenment time, then I go to flush out backscroll from that channel tab
2213. # [18:25] <@bz> waldo: so nothing prevents them doing that
2214. # [18:25] <mounir> RyanVM: ok ;)
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2216. # [18:25] <mounir> RyanVM: I will then flag the bug as checkin-needed ;)
2217. # [18:25] <@bz> waldo: the main reason we're considering nixing the array storage is to save a bit of memory
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2219. # [18:25] <@bz> waldo: and to avoid memmoves on insert/remove
2220. # [18:25] <@bz> waldo: which can really hurt in microbenchmarks, though less so in real-life code
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2223. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> jlebar, document.all too
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2228. # [18:27] <@bz> Ms2ger: oh, nice catch on document.all. ;)
2229. # [18:27] <mounir> RyanVM: out of curiosity, is there more improvements planned regarding infra load?
2230. # [18:27] <Ms2ger> bz, I very much wish I didn't know that
2231. # [18:27] <Ms2ger> mounir, I've got an idea to reduce infra load...
2232. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> mounir, but it involves not having to backout every other push :)
2233. # [18:28] <mounir> Ms2ger: my suggestions were more along the lines of adding slaves
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2235. # [18:28] <RyanVM> mounir: there's an etherpad going, but not much has been done to move forward with any of the proposals yet
2236. # [18:28] <Ms2ger> mounir, I don't condone slavery
2237. # [18:28] <froydnj> not backing out every other push would still be helpful in that scenario ;)
2238. # [18:28] <mounir> Ms2ger: what is your computation speed? ;)
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2240. # [18:29] <Ms2ger> mounir, pretty fast... return (pusher == mounir) ? orange : green
2241. # [18:29] <mounir> RyanVM: sad to hear that :(
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2243. # [18:29] <RyanVM> mounir: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/InfraLoadIdeas
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2246. # [18:32] <mounir> RyanVM: not clobber the source seems indeed a good idea ;)
2247. # [18:32] <mounir> RyanVM: but adding the price of each push seems a bit mean IMO
2248. # [18:32] <RyanVM> mounir: it's eye-opening
2249. # [18:32] <RyanVM> especially for the habitual Try offenders
2250. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Like the highscores?
2251. # [18:33] <RyanVM> yeah
2252. # [18:33] <RyanVM> point is that highscores are still a bit abstract
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2255. # [18:33] <RyanVM> giving an indication of what that kind of resource usage actually *costs* Mozilla might hopefully make people a bit more consciencious
2256. # [18:33] <RyanVM> at least, that's the theory
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2262. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> Good luck :)
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2264. # [18:35] <Waldo> bz, Ms2ger: I keep meaning to write a blog post telling people why == is bad and === is good, haven't gotten to it yet :-(
2265. # [18:36] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I always have my doubts about the effectiveness of asking people to play nice
2266. # [18:36] <Waldo> document.all sadness being a fair part of that
2267. # [18:36] <Waldo> among other reasons
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2272. # [18:38] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: if we did that we should probably give some idea what inbound push and inbound push that gets backed out are
2273. # [18:38] <tbsaunde> though calculating the cost of a backout seems non trivial when you consider time
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2275. # [18:38] <NeilAway> bah, and now an inner/outer window mixup causes an unrecoverable crash :s
2276. # [18:39] <sfink> I think time is a more interesting measure than $$, but harder to compute once you factor everything in
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2278. # [18:39] <@bz> waldo: if people had been testing document.all === null on the web....
2279. # [18:39] <@bz> waldo: we would have had to sadden === too.
2280. # [18:39] <@bz> waldo: so be glad they were not!
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2282. # [18:40] <Waldo> bz: oddly, Presto makes document.all === undefined or null true
2283. # [18:40] <Waldo> bz: they were the only ones, tho
2284. # [18:40] <Waldo> bz: and, yeah
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2287. # [18:42] <@bz> waldo: got a sec?
2288. # [18:42] <@bz> waldo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852094#c3
2289. # [18:42] <@bz> waldo: The throwing on false *bp....
2290. # [18:42] <@bz> waldo: Doesn't seem right at first glance
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2292. # [18:42] <@bz> waldo: or more precisely "it should only happen in strict mode"
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2294. # [18:43] <Waldo> bz: oh, this wasn't being called from an ObjectOps::defineProperty implementation? but rather in some place where you have a |bool strict| or moral equivalent around?
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2297. # [18:43] <Bas> smaug: Actually, doesn't a dummy account violate the EULA with G+? I seem to recall real name usage was required.
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2299. # [18:44] <Waldo> bz: note that ObjectOps::defineProperty has no conception at all of potentially failing without throwing :-\ per the bug I mentioned, right now
2300. # [18:44] <Waldo> bz: if it was a |bool strict| thing, then not throwing would be right, but I'd gotten the vague impression at a quick skim that those callsites weren't like that
2301. # [18:44] <@khuey> Bas: next time smaug comes to the US they'll throw him in jail for violating the G+ TOS and CFAA :-P
2302. # [18:44] <@smaug> Bas: maybe
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2304. # [18:45] <@smaug> Bas: I was this time "Smaug FinnishDragon"
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2306. # [18:45] <Bas> khuey: Hehe, I suppose Germany has at least ruled the requirement unlawful so you can get away with it there ;)
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2308. # [18:45] <Waldo> khuey: that's being litigated, but ToS violations seem unlikely to be construed that way; see the case of the woman bullying some 13-year-old teenager or so recently, where charges along those lines, roughly, got thrown out
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2312. # [18:46] <Bas> khuey: It's interesting how Google is forcing all of their service users to go to G+, indirectly forcing them to disclose their fullname and some other more complete info, and just watch those Ad incomes go up! :P
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2321. # [18:52] <ejpbruel> bz: ping
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2324. # [18:52] <ejpbruel> smaug: i need some help writing a mochi test. could you help me out?
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2328. # [18:54] <ekr_> Do you think there is a reward for turning smaug in?
2329. # [18:55] <ejpbruel> ekr_: could you do it after he helps me out?
2330. # [18:55] <ekr_> ejpbruel: I was assuming we would wait till he came to the states
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2334. # [18:56] <@smaug> ejpbruel: what kind of help ?
2335. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> smaug: i have a very simple test that i expect to work but which doesnt
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2338. # [18:57] <@smaug> ejpbruel: pastebin ?
2339. # [18:57] <ejpbruel> smaug: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2251199
2340. # [18:57] <ejpbruel> I've commented most of it out
2341. # [18:57] <ejpbruel> i create an iframe, load a document on it, and set an onload listener
2342. # [18:57] <ejpbruel> i expect the listener to be called, but my test never finishes
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2347. # [18:58] <ejpbruel> (fyi, i am aware we should not be using www.google.com in tests)
2348. # [18:58] <@smaug> ejpbruel: so you don't add iframe to document
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2350. # [18:58] <ejpbruel> smaug: ah, and thats a problem?
2351. # [18:58] <@smaug> well, iframe doesn't load anything if it isn't in a document
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2353. # [18:59] <ejpbruel> right
2354. # [18:59] <ejpbruel> smaug: can i simply do document.appendChild(iframe); ?
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2356. # [18:59] <@smaug> ejpbruel: probably
2357. # [18:59] <ejpbruel> because i get an error when i do that :)
2358. # [18:59] <@smaug> er
2359. # [19:00] <@smaug> not document
2360. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> document.body?
2361. # [19:00] <@smaug> document.documentElement.appendChild
2362. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> ah
2363. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> got it
2364. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> sorry :)
2365. # [19:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c35d63085c0 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 851780 - Add tests for input event. r=jwatt
2366. # [19:00] <@smaug> ejpbruel: document.body probably isn't there, since you're in a xul document
2367. # [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00112a2ac923 - Raymond Lee - Bug 840687 - Use HTTPS instead of HTTP for in-product documentation URLs. r=gavin
2368. # [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe665a4f5cff - Edgar Chen - Bug 855186 - Call error message dose not expose to DOM correctly. r=vyang
2369. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> smaug: you fixed my problem, thanks!
2370. # [19:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff32cf0442e6 - Cykesiopka - Bug 800522 - Add javascript.options.showInConsole to all.js so that Error Console can use a field instead of rolling its own lazy getter. r=Neil
2371. # [19:00] <@smaug> np
2372. # [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f6a8ae11f58 - Cykesiopka - Bug 801266 - Add label next to Error Console's filter box. r=dao
2373. # [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3acc0eaed0c - Lukas Nordin - Bug 252441 - Dropping text containing spaces will now perform a search on the given sentence. r=gavin.sharp
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2375. # [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7917cae45600 - Andre Reinald - Bug 675410 - Fix bottom rounded corners, hopefully in the same openGL context as the rest of the window. r=mstange, r=bgirard
2376. # [19:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1a9428e1719 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 840962 - Don't fail ICE on VPN adapters which store friendly names differently. r=ekr
2377. # [19:01] <RyanVM> ok, inbound's open
2378. # [19:01] <RyanVM> we'll see how the windows builders do keeping up
2379. # [19:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1de74b4a773 - Norbert Lindenberg - Bug 853075 - Remove workarounds. r=tschneidereit
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2381. # [19:02] <jesup> benwa: we need some assistance - we have --enable-tests, we have --enable-gtest, we have the file in GTEST_CPPSRCS, but it's not getting built. A build run enters xpcom/tests for export, but not to build
2382. # [19:03] <BenWa> jesup: I talked to ekr about it. That make file doesn't generate a library that gets linked into libxul which is what GTEST_CPPSRCS expects
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2385. # [19:03] <BenWa> jesup: Youll need to create a gtest directory with some xpcomgtest library thing
2386. # [19:04] <ggp> gerv: ping
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2402. # [19:10] <tanvi> smaug: ping
2403. # [19:10] <@smaug> tanvi: pong
2404. # [19:10] <@smaug> did I misunderstand the test?
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2406. # [19:10] <tanvi> smaug: have you seen this assertion failure: 19:39:40 INFO - [Parent 385] WARNING: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDED(rv) && subjPrincipal) failed: file ../../../docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp, line 8395
2407. # [19:11] <tanvi> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#8394
2408. # [19:11] <Ms2ger> tanvi, that's not an assertion
2409. # [19:11] <@smaug> tanvi: that is not assertion
2410. # [19:11] <tanvi> i see it a bunch, and am not sure if its a bug caused by any of the mixed content blocking code, or if its been an issue for a while
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2414. # [19:11] <tanvi> sorry, the warning
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2420. # [19:13] <jesup> benwa: is there an example somewhere I can use to model it on?
2421. # [19:13] <@smaug> tanvi: so I don't recall seeing that much, but I guess if you do stuff in C++ only, and there isn't principal at all, you might get that warning
2422. # [19:13] <ejpbruel> smaug: Ms2ger: so when i create an iframe and attach it to the document, it loads about:blank even if i don't set the src property on it. is that normal?
2423. # [19:13] <@smaug> tanvi: not sure why we need to have that _ENSURE_
2424. # [19:13] <@smaug> not very useful one
2425. # [19:13] <Ms2ger> That's the "initial about:blank"
2426. # [19:13] <@smaug> or, hmm
2427. # [19:13] <BenWa> jesup: Not yet but everything will switch to using that when we dual link libxul and get rid of enable-gtest
2428. # [19:14] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: is it always loaded first?
2429. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> Talk to hsivonen if you ever want to hear epic stories about it
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2431. # [19:14] <@smaug> ejpbruel: about:blank is normal, yes
2432. # [19:14] <ejpbruel> smaug: so i should not assign to iframe.src until *after* the first onload triggers?
2433. # [19:14] <tanvi> smaug: okay. what do you think it shoudl be instead?
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2435. # [19:15] <@smaug> hsivonen has still "Making Firefox load about:blank correctly." as a title for his twitter account
2436. # [19:15] <@khuey> is he still working on it?
2437. # [19:15] <BenWa> jesup: You want to define a make file with a libraryname, libxul_library=1,export_library=1 and some GTEST_CPPSRCS
2438. # [19:15] <@gavin> khuey: bug 543435 isn't fixed
2439. # [19:15] <@smaug> tanvi: if (NS_FAILED(rv) || !subjectPrincipal) return rv
2440. # [19:15] <@smaug> something like that
2441. # [19:15] <jesup> benwa: ok, thanks. This test is blocking landing a fix for the #1 orangefactor bug. Let me try and get back to you
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2443. # [19:16] <Ms2ger> But with braces
2444. # [19:16] <BenWa> jesup: I'll be happy to look at the patch but I'm not very good with messing with the build system
2445. # [19:16] <ekr> the patch should be OKish except for the build system
2446. # [19:16] <tanvi> smaug: for bug 840388, the patch was rolled back because of an issue in the tests. I am getting a failure herehttp://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/shistory/src/nsSHEntry.cpp#595
2447. # [19:16] <ekr> I've used gmake before
2448. # [19:17] <ekr> s/gmake/gtest/
2449. # [19:17] <tanvi> smaug: do you know much about this code? is it because i have mutlipel iframes that contain multiple iframes?
2450. # [19:17] <ejpbruel> smaug: Ms2ger: so is this the correct way to do it? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2251214
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2452. # [19:18] <@smaug> tanvi: I should know about shistory, yes
2453. # [19:19] <@smaug> tanvi: need to page in that code
2454. # [19:19] <BenWa> gps: Do you have an example of the process mixin for mach gtest? I'm looking at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mach/mach/mixin/process.py#107 but it doesn't really do that
2455. # [19:19] <tanvi> smaug: okay, let me see if i can figure this out
2456. # [19:19] <armenzg> jimm: is there a chance that you borrow the machine and try to run the test to completion?
2457. # [19:20] <@smaug> tanvi: hmm, so I believe we do have some bug open for http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/shistory/src/nsSHEntry.cpp#595
2458. # [19:20] <jimm> I'll try replicating locally first. getting a vpn into those machine is a pita.
2459. # [19:20] <jimm> armenzg: ^
2460. # [19:20] <@smaug> tanvi: I fixed most of the problems where that can happen
2461. # [19:20] <@smaug> but apparently some case is still there
2462. # [19:20] <armenzg> jimm: can you try my steps?
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2464. # [19:20] <@smaug> tanvi: if you could get a stack trace for that
2465. # [19:20] <jimm> armenzg: sure, did you have the browser set as the default?
2466. # [19:21] <armenzg> I will wait for your results
2467. # [19:21] <armenzg> jimm: yes, I did
2468. # [19:21] <jimm> armenzg: can you post the console out in there that you got?
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2471. # [19:21] <@bsmedberg> glandium: ping
2472. # [19:21] <gerv> ggp: pong
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2474. # [19:21] <tanvi> smaug: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21138570&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound
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2476. # [19:22] <tanvi> it will take a while to load
2477. # [19:22] <gps> BenWa: look at the RunProgram class in python/mozbuild/mozbuild/mach_commands.py
2478. # [19:22] <glandium> bsmedberg: pong
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2480. # [19:22] <armenzg> jimm: I'm re-running and re-directing output; we'll need 5 mins
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2482. # [19:22] <tanvi> smaug: search for "Adding a child where we already have a child" within the page. and you will see the stacktrace
2483. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> glandium: so it turns out that Flash exports a symbol (from libflashplayer.so) named "FlashPlayer_11_2_202_273_FlashPlayer"
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2485. # [19:22] <@bsmedberg> but the exact symbol changes per Flash version
2486. # [19:23] <@bsmedberg> glandium: is there a reasonably-performing way to search the symbols that Flash exports and look for that one?
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2488. # [19:23] <ggp> gerv: hey, I wonder if you'll have the time to review my about:license patch until the end of the week or so? that's the only thing still blocking the main bug :)
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2490. # [19:23] <@smaug> tanvi: oh, that is not so useful after all
2491. # [19:23] <glandium> bsmedberg: you'd have to do it manually
2492. # [19:23] <gerv> ggp: bug number?
2493. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> glandium: how manually?
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2495. # [19:24] <tanvi> smaug: it is generated by the mochitests in bug 840388
2496. # [19:24] <ggp> gerv: 852196
2497. # [19:24] <glandium> bsmedberg: that is, there is no public API I know of to do it, so essentially, you have to implement symbol lookup on your own
2498. # [19:24] <gerv> bug 852196
2499. # [19:24] <tanvi> smaug: let me see if i can reproudce it locally
2500. # [19:24] <@bsmedberg> ah crap yeah, that sucks
2501. # [19:24] <gerv> Hmm, no bots in here?
2502. # [19:24] <BenWa> gps: That doesn't let me run the jobs in parellel does it?
2503. # [19:24] * gerv does it the old way
2504. # [19:24] <glandium> bsmedberg: is it a public export?
2505. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> I'm pretty sure it is, yes
2506. # [19:25] <@khuey> gerv: yeah firebot is offline apparently
2507. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> it's "T" in the nm -D output
2508. # [19:25] <Ms2ger> Again?
2509. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> same as NP_Shutdown and such
2510. # [19:25] <glandium> bsmedberg: is it for linux only, or you're interested in this for all platforms?
2511. # [19:25] <gerv> r=gerv.
2512. # [19:25] <gps> BenWa: oh, not yet, no
2513. # [19:25] <@bsmedberg> glandium: just linux
2514. # [19:25] <gps> I forgot you had that requirement
2515. # [19:26] <glandium> bsmedberg: it might be possible to leverage the android custom linker code do to what you want (instead of reinventing a wheel)
2516. # [19:26] <glandium> bsmedberg: i'll take a look later today and tell you how realistic it looks
2517. # [19:26] <@smaug> tanvi: FYI, lots of session history changes landed 2010, Bug 462076
2518. # [19:26] <gps> BenWa: running processes in parallel without output interleaving is difficult to do on every platform
2519. # [19:27] <BenWa> gps: Well we could just buffer the output
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2521. # [19:27] <tanvi> smaug: yes i can reproduce it locally
2522. # [19:27] <glandium> gps: it's not, if you don't share file descriptors
2523. # [19:27] <ggp> gerv: thank you!
2524. # [19:27] <BenWa> gps: Or we can ignore the problem and let users deal with it. By default we do one job only
2525. # [19:27] <tanvi> smaug: opening gdb, adding a breakpoint, and getting you a stack trace
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2527. # [19:27] <@smaug> tanvi: ok. can you find a minimal testcase?
2528. # [19:27] <gps> glandium: I know that. just saying we don't have a trivial framework from which to spawn multiple processes in parallel
2529. # [19:27] <BenWa> gps: I modified the code to use ProcessHandlerMixin directly. I don't know if that's better or not
2530. # [19:28] <gps> BenWa: the single process is certainly tempting as a first offer
2531. # [19:28] <gps> I was going to suggest that for parallel execution
2532. # [19:28] <gps> just install the same on_line handler and Python will ensure no interleaving occurs
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2534. # [19:28] <@khuey> kaze: what did jim actually say?
2535. # [19:28] <gps> I /think/ mozprocess installs background threads so you can have parallel execution
2536. # [19:28] <tanvi> smaug: will work on that too
2537. # [19:29] <BenWa> gps: You mean that it wont mix line, but seperate lines will still be mixed right?
2538. # [19:29] <@smaug> thanks
2539. # [19:29] <tanvi> smaug: will give you what i find first.
2540. # [19:29] <jimm> armenzg: ping
2541. # [19:29] <glandium> gps: there is no such thing as parallel execution of threads in python
2542. # [19:29] <armenzg> jimm: pong
2543. # [19:29] <@smaug> tanvi: meeting now
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2545. # [19:29] <jimm> armenzg: the merged build isn't don yet on mc :)
2546. # [19:29] <armenzg> jimm: oh; I was testing the wrong thing
2547. # [19:29] <armenzg> let me try inbound
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2551. # [19:30] <jimm> armenzg: the test harness should print the tests.ini path it write too, I added that in the patch I landed.
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2553. # [19:30] <glandium> bsmedberg: interesting, it's a function that returns 0 ; i wonder why it's there
2554. # [19:31] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I don't know, may be just a stupid way to know what the Flash version is...
2555. # [19:31] <ejpbruel> smaug: Ms2ger: I'm not sure I understand how this works? is iframe.onload triggered twice? once for about:blank, and once for the url you assigned to iframe.src?
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2558. # [19:31] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, every load gets a load event, I guess
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2560. # [19:31] <glandium> bsmedberg: it's pretty stupid, because you need to scan the entire symbol table to find it
2561. # [19:32] <gps> BenWa: output from separate processes will be interleaved. but, you won't have issues with line buffering
2562. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> glandium: yeah, I've asked adobe to implement NP_GetPluginVersion
2563. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> but until then, they recommended this as a workaround to make plugin blocklisting work
2564. # [19:32] <glandium> bsmedberg: that being said, how do we get the version in about:plugins?
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2566. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> we don't
2567. # [19:32] <@bsmedberg> about:plugins has no version information on Linux for most plugins
2568. # [19:32] <gps> glandium: I know about the GIL. I meant that the processes will execute in parallel and they won't be blocked on writing to a full stdout (since Python threads will be consuming their output)
2569. # [19:33] <glandium> bsmedberg: huh? it displays it to me
2570. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> what does it say?
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2572. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> I see:
2573. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> File: libflashplayer.so
2574. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> Version:
2575. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
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2577. # [19:33] <glandium> bsmedberg: *and* CTP notified me today that my version was too old, and stopped complaining after i upgraded
2578. # [19:33] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: this seems to trigger only once, when iframe.contentDocument.location.href == "about:blank"
2579. # [19:33] <ejpbruel> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2251238
2580. # [19:33] <glandium> bsmedberg: i see that too
2581. # [19:33] <glandium> oic
2582. # [19:33] <@bsmedberg> glandium: there's no version there. "Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202" is the description
2583. # [19:34] <@bsmedberg> and the "r202" doesn't change for all Flash 11.2 versions
2584. # [19:34] <glandium> but how did CTP give me the outdated warning?
2585. # [19:34] <@bsmedberg> you were using 11.1 or earlier
2586. # [19:34] <@bsmedberg> so we can use regex on the description
2587. # [19:34] <glandium> bsmedberg: and it detected it in the description?
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2592. # [19:37] <sfink> what is this "OpenDatabaseHelper.o" error that keeps burning my try pushes?
2593. # [19:37] <sfink> oh, does that need a clobber again or something?
2594. # [19:37] <tanvi> smaug: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2251254
2595. # [19:37] <Ms2ger> sfink, sounds unlikely, because try always clobbers
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2597. # [19:37] <sfink> Ms2ger: you have a very good point there
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2599. # [19:38] <sfink> I got confused because it burned my local build too, but yes, you're right
2600. # [19:39] <tanvi> smaug: let me see if i can reduce this now
2601. # [19:39] <sfink> my qparent had a green build on inbound, and I didn't touch outside of JS, and I'm confused, and I'm going to go beat my head against the wall for a while
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2603. # [19:40] <glandium> bsmedberg: so, it's probably more work to do it with the linker code than it is to do it from scratch, but, the linker code changes would be useful to be able to resolve symbols in system libraries we can't currently resolve on android because the system linker is unhelpful
2604. # [19:40] <armenzg> jimm: the tests are now running
2605. # [19:40] <jimm> woot
2606. # [19:40] <armenzg> jimm: even though it froze
2607. # [19:41] <armenzg> and here we go again
2608. # [19:41] <jimm> ah
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2610. # [19:41] <glandium> bsmedberg: how badly do you need this? (as in, in what timeframe?)
2611. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I'm not sure I need it at all
2612. # [19:41] <armenzg> jimm: it seems that we are ready to take off besides the IT change
2613. # [19:41] <glandium> bsmedberg: erf
2614. # [19:41] <armenzg> jimm: does this match your understanding?
2615. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> if Adobe implements NP_GetPluginVersion, then I won't need it
2616. # [19:41] <glandium> bsmedberg: will they?
2617. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> still negotiating
2618. # [19:41] <@bsmedberg> probably
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2620. # [19:42] <bajaj1> bholley: ping
2621. # [19:42] <bholley> bajaj1: hi
2622. # [19:42] <armenzg> jimm: you don't seem to have a summary of the passing failing tests
2623. # [19:42] <bajaj1> bholley: just fyi, all XBL patches approved for aurora
2624. # [19:42] <bajaj1> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844783
2625. # [19:42] <BenWa> gps: Alright I'll default to 1 job and I'll prepend the jobid. Thanks to djvj http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2251263
2626. # [19:42] <bajaj1> ready for landed
2627. # [19:43] <bholley> bajaj1: just saw - I'm mid-push :-)
2628. # [19:43] <bholley> bajaj1: thanks for the quick a+
2629. # [19:43] <bajaj1> bholley: saw someone asking about it
2630. # [19:43] <jimm> armenzg: it's printed to the mochitest log file, rather than the console.
2631. # [19:43] <bajaj1> bholley: regarding when aurora will have the fix, so this heads up :)
2632. # [19:43] <armenzg> jimm: I think that is different than what our other mochitests do
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2634. # [19:43] <bajaj1> bholley: great, thanks for the push
2635. # [19:43] <armenzg> they print to the console IIUC
2636. # [19:43] <bholley> bajaj1: yeah, I'd like to get this in the hands of remote XUL people as soon as possible, since it's effectively an unsupported configuration that we still kinda support ;-)
2637. # [19:44] <armenzg> I need it, otherwise I won't be able to determine the results for tbpl
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2639. # [19:44] <armenzg> jimm: what is the name of the file? I can't find any
2640. # [19:45] <jimm> armenzg: tb doesn't pull info from the console of the slave harness. it pulls from the logs, which should be right where they are supposed to be.
2641. # [19:45] <armenzg> any file ending like *log
2642. # [19:45] <jimm> yes
2643. # [19:45] <armenzg> hrmm
2644. # [19:45] <jimm> armenzg: I think you have to specify it in the command line params
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2646. # [19:45] <armenzg> jimm: I see; on the other side, is the IT bug our current blocker?
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2649. # [19:46] <seth> just curious: would i get an email if one of my patches _improved_ talos?
2650. # [19:46] <armenzg> jimm: and what is our schedule?
2651. # [19:46] <BenWa> seth: In the past I have
2652. # [19:46] <armenzg> seth: it would show up on the dev.tree-management mailing list
2653. # [19:46] <seth> ah cool
2654. # [19:46] <BenWa> Typically its because the patch breaks the test making it run faster
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2656. # [19:47] <seth> armenzg: hmm, i'm not on that, maybe i should be
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2659. # [19:48] <jimm> armenzg: the log filename is mochitest-metro-chrome.log
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2661. # [19:49] <jimm> armenzg: as far as schedule goes I think we are waiting on rel eng to figure out when they have the time to work on any remaining issues.
2662. # [19:49] <jimm> armenzg: obviously we'd like to get these running hidden on a few trees, like try maybe
2663. # [19:49] <armenzg> jimm: it's nowhere to be found but that is not important for me. my current blocker is IT
2664. # [19:49] <armenzg> jimm: I can get it running on Cedar (where the A-team and releng green things up) as well as try
2665. # [19:50] <jimm> awesome
2666. # [19:50] <jimm> we can clean up failing tests from there
2667. # [19:50] <armenzg> we nevertheless need to get the GPO fix first
2668. # [19:50] <armenzg> true
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2671. # [19:52] <jimm> armenzg: hmm, I think you might be right, we may have a tbpl log problem.
2672. # [19:52] <jimm> looking at win7 bc test logs.
2673. # [19:52] <jimm> but we can fix that
2674. # [19:53] <jimm> maybe metroharness can grab the output somehow, or it can simply dump the log to its console after the run.
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2677. # [19:55] <armenzg> jimm: what is Firefox version that is being targeted for the Metro work?
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2679. # [19:56] <armenzg> *what Firefox version is being targeted for the Metro work?
2680. # [19:57] <jimm> armenzg: are you asking what version we expect to release at?
2681. # [19:57] <armenzg> jimm: correct
2682. # [19:58] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: I don't suppose I could talk you into killing the mochitest/ part of the a11y test tree?
2683. # [19:58] <jimm> 23->27 maybe. still up in the air.
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2685. # [19:58] <@bz> hrm
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2687. # [19:58] <@bz> what's with all the patches with diffstat in their commit message
2688. # [19:58] <@bz> will that at least get stripped on landing?
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2690. # [19:59] * @bz is looking at things like https://bug850442.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=729868
2691. # [19:59] <kaze> khuey: “play and cum”
2692. # [19:59] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: I'd be happy to do the work if there's consensus from your side...
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2697. # [20:00] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: Though currently you have both accessible/tests/crashtests and accessible/tests/mochitests ...
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2699. # [20:01] <Ms2ger> bz, git, and no
2700. # [20:01] <Optimizer> in a test , I am synthesizing click event on a xul:checkbox, but it is not triggering the associated "command" event and thus the handler to that command event.
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2702. # [20:01] <@smaug> bsmedberg: is benjamin.smedbergs.us down?
2703. # [20:01] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: crashtests/ is dead
2704. # [20:01] <@bsmedberg> smaug: it appears to be
2705. # [20:02] <@bz> Ms2ger: Thanks, and r-
2706. # [20:02] * @smaug must have killed benjamin.smedbergs.us. He was just writing status update
2707. # [20:02] <rillian> bz: generally hg import getting confused by git's output, I think
2708. # [20:02] <@bsmedberg> smaug: no, I think this is a dreamhost downtime
2709. # [20:02] <tbsaunde> we should just kill it or rewrite it as mochitests or something, but running crashtests to test a11y is hard
2710. # [20:02] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: okay, sounds like a no-brainer then
2711. # [20:03] <@bz> rillian: I see.
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2714. # [20:03] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: Kind of funny though since I just reviewed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855090 which *adds* a "mochitest" subdirectory to Metro test paths. :)
2715. # [20:03] <mbrubeck> conservation of mochitest dirs
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2717. # [20:04] <tbsaunde> hah
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2724. # [20:07] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: and thanks!
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2728. # [20:08] <@bz> Do we have anything like already_AddRefed but for use with nsAutoPtr?
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2731. # [20:08] <@khuey> a raw ptr?
2732. # [20:08] <Ms2ger> That
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2735. # [20:08] <@bz> I have code like this:
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2737. # [20:09] <@bz> Foo* GetFoo() { nsAutoPtr<Foo> foo = new Foo(); return foo.forget(); }
2738. # [20:09] <@bz> And a caller doing:
2739. # [20:09] <@bz> DoSomething(GetFoo());
2740. # [20:09] <@bsmedberg> bz: getter_Transfers
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2742. # [20:09] <@bz> Which is of course a leak
2743. # [20:09] <@bsmedberg> oh wait
2744. # [20:09] <@bz> (DoSomething takes a Foo*)
2745. # [20:09] <@bsmedberg> already_AddRefed... just a sec
2746. # [20:09] <@bz> The question is whethr I can change the GetFoo() signature so that this will not compile
2747. # [20:10] <@bz> I guess I could return an nsAutoPtr or something
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2750. # [20:12] <@bsmedberg> bz: I don't think we have such a thing now, but adding a TemporaryRef sounds reasonably good
2751. # [20:12] <@bsmedberg> there is a similar thing in mfbt/RefPtr.h
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2755. # [20:14] <BenWa> gps: I just noticed that if I use self.log it removes GTest colorization. Any ideas?
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2760. # [20:17] <BenWa> gps: Not a big deal because if we use the default -j1 we don't use self.log and get colors. Maybe it's fine for now
2761. # [20:19] <gps> BenWa: I suspect gtest uses isatty() to detect whether to emit colors
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2764. # [20:20] <gps> by having its stderr and stdout handled by a pipe, it fails that test
2765. # [20:20] <gps> also, the current logging infrastructure is a bit fragile. feel free to print()
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2767. # [20:21] <BenWa> gps: I haven't seen any problem so far. Do you want me to change it?
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2769. # [20:22] <gps> BenWa: if self.log works, use it!
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2772. # [20:24] <Optimizer> any idea why a manual click triggers the "command" event on a checkbox just fine, but ventUtils.sendMouseEvent will only check the checkbox, without emitting "command"
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2778. # [20:27] <@smaug> Optimizer: because EventUtils.sendMouseEvent uses just normal target.dispatch
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2781. # [20:27] <Optimizer> should I use sendMouseEventToWindow ?
2782. # [20:27] <@smaug> Optimizer: you want synthesizeMouse
2783. # [20:28] <@smaug> if you're using EventUtils
2784. # [20:28] <Optimizer> ok
2785. # [20:28] <Optimizer> so on a button, it triggers command event .
2786. # [20:28] <@smaug> Optimizer: synthesizeMouseAtCenter might be useful
2787. # [20:29] <Optimizer> smaug: thanks :)
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2797. # [20:37] <@smaug> bsmedberg: now I get Status: 500 Internal Server Error
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2803. # [20:39] <WeirdAl> 15 year anniversary on Tuesday - and the reason for no party: it's merge day :p
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2824. # [20:52] <jesup> benwa/ted: to get run with the gtest unittests, where does this library need to get added to to get run by -unittests?
2825. # [20:53] <BenWa> jesup: It needs to get link in libxul if enable_gtest is set so...
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2827. # [20:53] <BenWa> toolkit/toolkit.mozbuild
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2829. # [20:54] <BenWa> and toolkit/library/Makefile.in
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2848. # [21:03] <jesup> benwa: finally got it to run the test (and crash).
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2850. # [21:04] <BenWa> jesup: Where does it crash??
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2853. # [21:04] <jesup> BenWa: inside the test
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2856. # [21:05] <BenWa> jesup: Well I can't help with the trace. But likely it depends on something to be initialized
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2858. # [21:05] <BenWa> In that case youll need to init&teardown
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2861. # [21:06] <jesup> Looks like SetupTestCase wasn't run; investigating
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2869. # [21:07] <jesup> NS_NewNamedThread failed...
2870. # [21:07] <jesup> odd
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2872. # [21:07] <jesup> my guess is the ThreadManager isn't inited
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2882. # [21:08] <BenWa> jesup: Our code base is has so much coupling that it make writing unit test challenging
2883. # [21:09] <BenWa> I may at some point initialized more things by default but first I wanted to see what problems we would run into
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2887. # [21:10] <JosiahOne-Studies> Who can I put down for review? It concerns js and xul.
2888. # [21:10] * JosiahOne-Studies is now known as JosiahOne
2889. # [21:11] <JosiahOne> Not sure who that falls on.
2890. # [21:11] <jesup> BenWa: probably "normal" global services like ThreadManager should be started
2891. # [21:11] <Optimizer> JosiahOne: dao , if the code touches core browser thingies
2892. # [21:11] <JosiahOne> Optimizer: Alright. Thanks.
2893. # [21:11] <BenWa> jesup: I don't really know what those are exactly. If you think it's important then we should open a bug
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2900. # [21:16] <@smaug> remind me, is Easter a big thing in US? (Finland will be closed from late Thursday to end of Monday)
2901. # [21:17] <BenWa> smaug: some people generally visit family over the long weekend (friday off)
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2903. # [21:17] <dholbert> smaug, no official moz holiday, in the US, per https://intranet.mozilla.org/HolidaySchedule#Paid_Holidays_for_2013
2904. # [21:17] <jesup> BenWa: do_GetService("@mozilla.org/thread-manager;1"); fails...
2905. # [21:18] <@smaug> ok, thanks
2906. # [21:18] <BenWa> Ahh, I was just checking. Canada only then
2907. # [21:18] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
2908. # [21:19] <@khuey> smaug: no, it's not
2909. # [21:19] <jesup> smaug: Easter is a "oh, it's Easter? Huh." for lots of US-ians. (Stuff on Sunday for those who participate, generally. As mentioned, some take a day off if they want.
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2911. # [21:20] <@smaug> in Finland we eat all sorts of stuff we don't eat any other time, like mämmi and pasha
2912. # [21:21] <Archaeopteryx> so it's something like Thanksgiving for Europeans
2913. # [21:21] <Waldo> does Ikea serve either of those?
2914. # [21:21] * Waldo ducks
2915. # [21:21] * @smaug kicks Waldo
2916. # [21:21] <Waldo> smaug: you missed your chance to tell me to quit horsing around!
2917. # [21:21] <@smaug> Swedes don't know about mämmi, and pasha is from Russian
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2919. # [21:22] * Waldo supposes he should get in the habit of jumping, not ducking, at least on IRC
2920. # [21:22] <Waldo> unless they're roundhouse kicks
2921. # [21:22] * Ms2ger holds a baseball bat above Waldo's head
2922. # [21:22] <Ms2ger> smaug, go!
2923. # [21:22] <dholbert> Ms2ger++
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2925. # [21:23] <Waldo> Ms2ger: you know, I still have that brick you threw at me earlier...
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2927. # [21:23] <Mossop> Yoric: Can you point me to the promises implementation that Paolo created?
2928. # [21:23] * Ms2ger throws another
2929. # [21:23] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: ping
2930. # [21:23] <Yoric> Mossop: He hasn't uploaded it yet, afaict.
2931. # [21:23] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: yo
2932. # [21:23] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: your logging push might have made for a new orange on inbound
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2935. # [21:24] <aja> anyone looking into session restore bustage on ux nightly?
2936. # [21:24] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: exciting, link?
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2941. # [21:27] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21171532&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2944. # [21:27] <philor> actually, I think I saw that states/test_tree.xul | called finish() multiple times somewhere it didn't belong, recently, like aurora
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2946. # [21:29] <RyanVM> philor: come on now, don't let him off the hook that easy!
2947. # [21:29] <jesup> BenWa: probably you need what TestHarness.h has - to start XPCom using NS_InitXPCOM/NS_InitiXPCOM2
2948. # [21:30] <jesup> without that, tons of stuff won't work and it will be a bear to init by hand
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2950. # [21:30] <philor> plenty of unstarred on aurora, but none of it seems to be that
2951. # [21:31] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: its... hard to see how changing logging for a completely different test caused that...
2952. # [21:31] <RyanVM> philor: I'm sick of filing new orange bugs today...
2953. # [21:31] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
2954. # [21:32] <@bsmedberg> jesup: pong
2955. # [21:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: I don't mind if you back it out, but it blocks be debugging bug 845134 anymore unless we can blaim it on bad test slaves
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2958. # [21:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: so your crummy choice :-(
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2960. # [21:32] <jesup> bsmedberg: So, it appears the gtest ability to test the Sync fix isn't really there yet (no nsThread support, XPCom isn't really up, etc)
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2963. # [21:33] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: I'm not backing it out
2964. # [21:33] <@bsmedberg> jesup: yeah, you'd have to start XPCOM yourself, and that gets finicky quickly
2965. # [21:33] <@bsmedberg> jesup: I'm fine with skipping the binary tests for now
2966. # [21:33] <jesup> Right. Thanks. (We'll know soon enough if it works... ;-)
2967. # [21:33] <jesup> I'll capture what we have in a patch
2968. # [21:33] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: ok
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2973. # [21:35] <RyanVM> jesup: I suppose "not leaking like crazy" is a decent sign that it works :P
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2977. # [21:35] <jesup> RyanVM: That would be at least a hint
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2979. # [21:36] <jesup> My original fix was happy on 150 retriggers on Try.
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2982. # [21:37] <gaston> happy as a dead pig in the sunshine ?
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2985. # [21:38] <gaston> jesup: can you look at the sctp/pulse/alsa/webrtc diffs pending review ?
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2988. # [21:39] <BenWa> jesup: Ideally we would just open a bug and discuss the implication of InitXPCOM, sounds like a no brainer to add at this point
2989. # [21:39] <jesup> gaston: yes. My apologies... IETF and other stuff
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2991. # [21:39] <gaston> no worries :)
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2993. # [21:39] <gaston> i didnt target 22 anyway
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2996. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> jesup, really, we should have a sane C++ test harness that works with and without xpcom... Seems to be rocket science, though :/
2997. # [21:42] <aja> mconley: ping
2998. # [21:42] <mconley> aja: pong.
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3000. # [21:43] <aja> mconley: aware that session restore's broken on ux nightly?
3001. # [21:43] <jesup> Ms2ger: Been looking to have that for the last year... ;-/
3002. # [21:43] * @bz hates the bugzilla upgrade with a passion. :(
3003. # [21:43] <Ms2ger> bz, do tell
3004. # [21:44] <@bz> Ms2ger: broke bfcache
3005. # [21:44] <mconley> aja: can you file minimal STR in a new bug, blocking bug 770135 please?
3006. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> bz, oh, lovely
3007. # [21:44] <@bz> Ms2ger: huge PITA
3008. # [21:45] <aja> mconley: k...basically just updated to most recent nightly, though
3009. # [21:45] <gaston> bsmith: wrt the sigbus in nss_init, when you said 'with the way we build nss now', was itreferring to the folding of nss/nspr into libxul ? iirc that's not the case on unix, only on mac/win
3010. # [21:45] <mconley> aja: Yep, new customization stuff went in, which is probably causing your trouble. I'll investigate when I have a free moment, if you file that bug.
3011. # [21:45] <jlebar> 1.2.3.4:5678 is what sort of thing? It's not a network address, nor a network interface.
3012. # [21:45] * ctalbert|lunch is now known as ctalbert|mtg
3013. # [21:45] <bsmith> gaston: even without the folding, we change quite a bit about how NSSgets built.
3014. # [21:46] <aja> will do
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3017. # [21:46] <bsmith> to be clear, I don't know if the build system is at fault. That's just my initial guess.
3018. # [21:46] <Waldo> jlebar: hostport?
3019. # [21:46] <mconley> aja: thanks!
3020. # [21:46] <bsmith> Really, a regression range is what we ned.
3021. # [21:46] <gaston> bsmith: which commits/bugs recently affected that ?
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3023. # [21:46] <bsmith> gaston: I would "hg log security/build"
3024. # [21:46] <gaston> i can try a regression range but my hg-fu is limited wrt bisecting
3025. # [21:47] <gaston> is hg up -r foo enough to go back in time to that rev ?
3026. # [21:47] <jlebar> Waldo: Seems like that's a thing.
3027. # [21:47] <dholbert> gaston, yes
3028. # [21:47] <jlebar> Waldo: thanks!
3029. # [21:47] <gaston> dholbert: ok thanks
3030. # [21:47] <dholbert> gaston, hg also has "hg bisect" which is handy
3031. # [21:47] <gaston> i definitely need to learn more stuff like that..
3032. # [21:48] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: philor: OTOH, two identical failures on the same push is a bit suspicious
3033. # [21:48] <dholbert> gaston, hg up to a known-bad revision, "hg bisect --bad", and then hg up to a known-good revision, and do "hg bisect --good"
3034. # [21:48] <dholbert> gaston, then it'll automatically hg up you to the halfway point, and you can mark it as good or bad, and it'll update you again, etc
3035. # [21:49] <gaston> if it's 'that' simple, i'll try to spend some time on this
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3039. # [21:50] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: and test_focusedChild runs before test_tree
3040. # [21:50] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: so I'm wondering if there's some leftover state at play here
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3042. # [21:54] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: there should be, but its of course possible :(
3043. # [21:54] <tbsaunde> *shouldn't
3044. # [21:54] <aja> mconley: bug 855452
3045. # [21:54] <mconley> aja: thank you
3046. # [21:54] <aja> np
3047. # [21:54] <mconley> aja: er, can you include STR please?
3048. # [21:54] <abr> I'm trying to run mochi tests locally, and I'm getting an error I haven't seen before: "OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/Adam/devel/mozilla/mozilla-inbound/obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.2.0/obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.2.0/_tests/testing/mochitest'"
3049. # [21:54] <abr> Note the object directory appears twice in the path.
3050. # [21:54] <abr> Is this a known problem?
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3052. # [21:56] <dholbert> abr, are you running them with mach?
3053. # [21:56] <aja> mconley: gonna try yesterday afternoon's merge to see if it's ok there
3054. # [21:56] <abr> dholbert -- Yes. I'm doing "./mach mochitest-plain dom/media/tests/mochitest --debugger=gdb"
3055. # [21:56] <abr> Although it also fails without the debugger flag
3056. # [21:57] <mconley> aja: it probably will be. Once you confirm, can you please include a minimal set of steps to reproduce in the bug?
3057. # [21:57] <Ms2ger> abr, 'ls /Users/Adam/devel/mozilla/mozilla-inbound/obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.2.0/obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.2.0/' ?
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3060. # [21:57] <dholbert> abr, strange! WFM, with that command. (/me steps back)
3061. # [21:57] <abr> Huh. Okay, so maybe something local then.
3062. # [21:58] <abr> I'll run a clean checkout and build overnight to see if it clears up.
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3064. # [21:58] <abr> Thanks for looking.
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3067. # [21:58] <dholbert> abr, (see also Ms2ger's question above)
3068. # [21:58] <dholbert> abr, np
3069. # [21:58] <@bz> Who are these people using rar files, and why?
3070. # [21:58] <abr> Ms2ger -- yeah, that directory isn't there.
3071. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> bz, mm, I uses winrar when I was young
3072. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> used, even
3073. # [21:59] <Ms2ger> abr, weird.
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3075. # [22:00] <@bz> well, back in like the mid-90s, I can see it
3076. # [22:00] <@bz> but now?
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3079. # [22:01] <aja> mconley: fwiw, d/l status indicator also not showing any meter...thought after clicking it, the popup does
3080. # [22:01] <tbsaunde> bz: I think I saw some on some torent or other sketch site a couple years ago
3081. # [22:01] * hwine is now known as hwine|mtg
3082. # [22:01] <@bz> right
3083. # [22:01] <@bz> but why do all the script kiddies filing "security" bugs use it?
3084. # [22:02] <mconley> aja: please file a separate bug for that as well, also mark as blocking bug 770135.
3085. # [22:02] <aja> k
3086. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> They spend to much time on such sketchy sites?
3087. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> too
3088. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> Dammit
3089. # [22:02] <mconley> aja: please include steps to reproduce as well.
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3091. # [22:02] <Ms2ger> I'm going to bed...
3092. # [22:03] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger's theory seems highly likely if your a script kitty your probably also into torenting crap
3093. # [22:03] <Ms2ger> A script kitty? I'd like one :)
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3097. # [22:04] <tbsaunde> heh
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3099. # [22:05] <shu> the TBP guy used to hang out on our IRC before he got caught in cambodia, he probably would've known why the "scene" loves rar
3100. # [22:05] <jmaher> RyanVM: I believe my patch is causing a osx10.6 m(oth) error
3101. # [22:06] <RyanVM> jmaher: tbsaunde will be happy to hear that
3102. # [22:06] <RyanVM> jmaher: and wow, what crappy timing for those two landings
3103. # [22:06] <jmaher> RyanVM: tbsaunde: I am not 100% sure, but lets back it out and be safe vs sorry
3104. # [22:06] <aja> mconley: hmm....busted w/yesterday's merge, too
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3106. # [22:06] <RyanVM> jmaher: go for it, I already backed tbsaunde out :P
3107. # [22:07] <RyanVM> giving it the ol' Solomon treatment :D
3108. # [22:07] <jmaher> are we sure tbsaunde is the culprit, or just takinga good guess?
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3110. # [22:07] <RyanVM> taking a guess
3111. # [22:08] <RyanVM> i've got an osx build triggered on his push
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3113. # [22:08] <jmaher> ok, then backing me out would be as probable
3114. # [22:08] <RyanVM> yes, backing you out now
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3125. # [22:08] <jmaher> oh, ok...thanks! I was refreshing my tree
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3133. # [22:14] <Callek> RyanVM: what is the magic whiteboard if I do *not* want a bug closed after inbound->central merge?
3134. # [22:14] <dholbert> Callek, [leave open]
3135. # [22:14] <RyanVM> Callek: [leave open]
3136. # [22:15] <RyanVM> sigh, 3 seconds too slow
3137. # [22:15] <dholbert> \o/
3138. # [22:15] <Callek> thanks
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3140. # [22:16] * Callek prepares to land on inbound, even if its closed ;-P
3141. # [22:16] <Callek> (in my defense the patch is test-only and not even a test suite we run in production yet)
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3149. # [22:19] <dholbert> Callek, I hope it's DONTBUILD then
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3152. # [22:20] <Callek> dholbert: indeed
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3155. # [22:20] <dholbert> Callek, plus: oh hey, the tree's open! :)
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3160. # [22:24] <bajaj1> yury: ping
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3163. # [22:24] <yury> bajaj1: pong
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3165. # [22:25] <bajaj1> yury: just checking if this is already merged to m-c https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852530?
3166. # [22:25] <bajaj1> yury: before i go ahead and approve it for aurora
3167. # [22:26] <rnewman> RyanVM: thanks for slyly landing my test fix for me!
3168. # [22:26] <yury> bajaj1: it was. see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852981 / #2969 Fixes notificationBox on Linux
3169. # [22:26] <RyanVM> rnewman: I have ways of getting things I want ;) :D
3170. # [22:26] <rnewman> :D
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3172. # [22:27] <@gavin> rnewman: thanks for the CC
3173. # [22:27] <bajaj1> yury: thanks for checking, approving now for aurora
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3179. # [22:30] <mjrosenb> wow, I didn't update my configure script, and running the old configure script didn't spew an error message :(
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3203. # [22:35] <RyanVM|Dinner> tbsaunde: jmaher: wouldn't you know it, your osx 10.6 debug m-oth runs are going to be coalesced
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3207. # [22:37] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|Dinner: sorry this is a mess :(
3208. # [22:37] <RyanVM|Dinner> np
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3217. # [22:44] <csorenson> hello, i have someone in #newbies asking the question: will somebody please explain the use case for nsAutoPtr? … can i send him over here?
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3219. # [22:45] <qDot> csorenson: Sure, we can provide the answer with the explitives and belligerence expected of us. :D
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3221. # [22:45] <csorenson> lol, thanks :)
3222. # [22:46] * dholbert is disappointed to see that we don't have documentation in nsAutoPtr.h, nor do we have a (googleable) MDN page on nsAutoPtr
3223. # [22:47] <qDot> It's obviously automatic. What's left to know?
3224. # [22:47] <qDot> It's right there, in the name. It's like driving an automatic transmission. You just get in the car and it drives you where you want to go.
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3227. # [22:48] <csorenson> he said that the checked MDN, but he may not be sure where to look
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3229. # [22:48] <dholbert> csorenson, qDot's being sarcastic, and I'm agreeing that there doesn't seem to be good documentation on it. We'll be happy to answer questions though
3230. # [22:48] <csorenson> oh
3231. # [22:48] <csorenson> lol k
3232. # [22:49] <csorenson> thank you
3233. # [22:49] <csorenson> !!
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3235. # [22:49] <dholbert> sure!
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3239. # [22:50] <qDot> Yeah. nsAutoPtr can get you in trouble, we need pitfalls as much as documentation.
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3248. # [22:54] <dholbert> csorenson, (not sure if the guy has joined yet, but for your benefit at least): nsAutoPtr basically is there to make sure you don't end up forgetting to delete something, in error-handling early-returns, and also to keep you from accidentally deleting it twice
3249. # [22:54] <mdas> smaug: ping
3250. # [22:54] <csorenson> dholbert, awesome! thank you!
3251. # [22:54] <@smaug> mdas: pong
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3253. # [22:55] <dholbert> it's a smart wrapper for a pointer, such that when you copy from one nsAutoPtr<Foo> to another, the original one clears its pointer, and the second one is now responsible for that memory
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3255. # [22:55] <mdas> smaug: hi, we're working to synthesize gestures for b2g, and we'll need to send both touch and mouse events. I've been reading that we need to send over a chain of events like so: [touchstart, touchmove*, touchend, mousemove, mousedown, mouseup, click].
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3257. # [22:56] <csorenson> dholbert++ much appreciated. he got the message
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3259. # [22:56] <mdas> smaug: but we were wondering if we needed to send all the touch events *first* before sending the mouse events, or if we can interlace them, so we can do something like [touchstart, mousedown, touchmove, mousemove, etc]?
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3261. # [22:56] <mdas> not sure if order of touch events relative to mouse events actually mattered
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3263. # [22:57] <dholbert> csorenson, (it's similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_ptr , in motivation and functionality)
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3265. # [22:58] <csorenson> nice
3266. # [22:59] <Optimizer> can a try need a clobber ?
3267. # [22:59] <@smaug> mdas: it does matter, but I can't recall now the correct order. wesj or mbrubeck might remember better, or I could just look at the source code and the spec.
3268. # [22:59] <dholbert> Optimizer, no
3269. # [22:59] <dholbert> Optimizer, try builds are always clobbers
3270. # [23:00] <Optimizer> ok
3271. # [23:00] <@smaug> mdas: have you read the spec, especially https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/v1/touchevents.html#mouse-events
3272. # [23:00] <mbrubeck> mdas: In mobile browsers that use touch events, touches do not generate any mouse events except in response to a tap/click gesture
3273. # [23:01] <mbrubeck> and in that case, the mouse events are sent *after* the touchend
3274. # [23:01] <mbrubeck> (because, before the touchend, the browser doesn't know whether the gesture will be a tap)
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3276. # [23:01] <mdas> mbrubeck: so they aren't sent for a drag? aha.
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3278. # [23:02] <mdas> smaug: yeah it says "the touchstart event type must be dispatched before any mouse event types for that action. ", but doesn't say if the mouse events have to be after the touchend
3279. # [23:02] <gaston> hmmm i find it strange that hg log shows tip from last pull, even after hg up -r foo
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3281. # [23:02] <gaston> is there a way to know where am i at in the history ?
3282. # [23:03] <@roc> gbrown: so none of the test changes I tried worked :-(
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3284. # [23:03] <mdas> mbrubeck: do you know if mouse events are sent for a long press in that case?
3285. # [23:03] <mdas> instead of a tap, just tap and hold then release?
3286. # [23:04] <mbrubeck> mdas: I don't remember offhand... if anything, I think a contextmenu event is sent
3287. # [23:04] <jesup> dholbert: try finding a *good* doc page to explain nsRefPtr vs nsCOMPtr vs nsAutoPtr vs RefPtr..... I dare you! ;-)
3288. # [23:04] <mbrubeck> but I don't know if simulated mousemove/mousedown/mouseup events precede it
3289. # [23:04] <mdas> mbrubeck: do you know where in our codebase (or a spec) i can find this information?
3290. # [23:05] <jesup> that is, targeted at someone who doesn't already know what they are and without reading the source code for them
3291. # [23:05] <mdas> mbrubeck: fortunatley, we now send contextmenu events, so we've covered that case
3292. # [23:07] <mbrubeck> mdas: Some of the B2G code is at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1525
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3294. # [23:07] <aja> mconley, bug 855483 for d/l button progress meter
3295. # [23:08] <mbrubeck> and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1700
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3297. # [23:08] <tbsaunde> jesup: I'm not convinced that docs coveringthe details of refptrs would be betterthan just telling people to read the source, but we should absolutely have a high level discussion somewhere
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3299. # [23:09] <mdas> mbrubeck: oh perfect, thanks
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3302. # [23:10] <gbrown> roc: sorry to hear it. how can I help?
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3304. # [23:13] <@roc> I don't know
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3307. # [23:14] <mdas> mbrubeck: this is... odd, if I'm tracing the code correctly, if you hold down for long enough, it will fire a contextmenu event before mousemove/mousedown/mouseup
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3313. # [23:16] <mdas> since it registers a callback after touchstart, and it can fire that callback before touchend is received (and touchend fires the mousemove, etc events)
3314. # [23:16] <mbrubeck> mdas: I think touchend will only fire the mousemoves if nothing has called CancelTapTracking in the meantime...
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3318. # [23:17] <mbrubeck> So I think http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1716 means that we stop tracking, and therefore won't fire those mouse events
3319. # [23:18] <mdas> mbrubeck: aha! I see, thanks, I missed the cancelTapTracking call
3320. # [23:18] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
3321. # [23:18] <mdas> mbrubeck: thanks, this has been really helpful
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3327. # [23:19] <Waldo> high-level discussions of individual things should go as overview comments at the top of the headres
3328. # [23:19] <Waldo> s/res/ers/
3329. # [23:19] <Waldo> discussions distinguishing different things, yeah, those should be on MDN or something
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3331. # [23:20] <dholbert> gaston, there is, but I don't recall what it is
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3333. # [23:22] <dholbert> gaston, looks like perhaps "hg identify" is what you're looking for
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3343. # [23:27] <aja> heycam: anything new on the details/summary front?
3344. # [23:27] * whimboo|afk is now known as whimboo
3345. # [23:27] <heycam> aja, I'm just back this week from 4 weeks away, so no progress on it recently :)
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3347. # [23:27] <heycam> aja, it's second on my list of non-spec work to do (after fixing SVG text bugs)
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3350. # [23:29] <heycam> aja, I plan to stop using display:list-item to get the disclosure widget, and leave user stylability of the widget until later once the spec requires something
3351. # [23:29] <aja> heycam: hope you enjoyed the time off...kinda figured it might need rework with all the webidl landings
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3354. # [23:30] <heycam> aja, it probably will
3355. # [23:30] <aja> tks for update
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3357. # [23:31] <philor> looks like jmaher is the real witch, and tbsaunde only had a fake nose that the crowd stuck on him
3358. # [23:32] <BenWa> gps: Do I need gtest_env[b"GTEST_SHUFFLE"] = b"True"?
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3360. # [23:33] <gps> BenWa: /maybe/. I can't recall exactly how sensitive Python 2.7.2 and below are :(
3361. # [23:33] <gps> ... let me check some code
3362. # [23:33] <BenWa> Works fine if I include it so I'll use that
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3364. # [23:33] <mdas> cpeterson: ping
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3367. # [23:33] <cpeterson> mdas: pong
3368. # [23:34] <gps> BenWa: b'True' would definitely work
3369. # [23:34] <gps> just not sure if it is required
3370. # [23:34] <gps> by the way, this is one of my least favorite Python bugs
3371. # [23:35] <mdas> cpeterson: hi, we're working to synthesize gestures, and after looking over at TabChild.cpp, and I'm a bit unsure of how contextmenu works with gestures. It seems that after i send a touchstart, after the delay period resolves, contextmenu is fired and then the touch event is cancelled...
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3373. # [23:36] <mdas> cpeterson: if I'm still holding down on the screen and if I move my finger, I suppose that starts a new gesture?
3374. # [23:36] <mdas> s/gesture/touch event
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3377. # [23:36] * cpeterson thinking...
3378. # [23:38] <spohl> what's the best way to tell where a file was moved to in our code base?
3379. # [23:38] <spohl> in particular mobile/xul/chrome/content/browser.js?
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3381. # [23:38] <gps> git log --follow
3382. # [23:38] <mfinkle> spohl, that file was removed
3383. # [23:39] <cpeterson> mdas: shouldn't moving your finger send touchmove events? Are you testing within a specific app?
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3385. # [23:39] <spohl> gps, mfinkle: thanks!
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3393. # [23:42] <gps> poor Bas. being the first person to want a loosely coupled repository. now we have to talk about long term solutions
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3396. # [23:43] <mdas> cpeterson: I'm not testing yet, we're thinking about how to implement this for our automation harness. And yes, I'd *think* the gesture would trigger a touchmove event, but if it does, then it looks like it might get ignored. First, I assume we call http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1735, then it will call UpdateTapState http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1636, which
3397. # [23:43] <mdas> won't do anything due to RecvRealTouchEvent http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/TabChild.cpp#1682, since there is no currentlyTrackingTouch (as contextmenu will have canceled it)
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3404. # [23:44] <mdas> again, these are my assumptions, since I can't find any real documentation on what's going on, and I'm just reading code:)
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3416. # [23:48] <cpeterson> mdas: are you concerned that if touchdown event is canceled by contextmenu, that the post-contextmenu finger move will be lost or confused whether it is part of a gesture?
3417. # [23:48] <mdas> cpeterson: exactly!
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3420. # [23:48] <philor> terrence: I sort of think all those JS crashes on the tip of inbound might be you
3421. # [23:49] <Luqman> ggg
3422. # [23:49] <mdas> cpeterson: I want to make sure that an app that expects touchstart and touchend still get these messages, even if contextmenu was fired.
3423. # [23:50] <mdas> I also want to make sure htat a finger is still tracked if it fires a contextmenu event, but continues moving
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3429. # [23:52] <Bas> gps: I knew this was going to be an uphill struggle.
3430. # [23:53] <Bas> gps: But the burdens of mozilla-central development have finally convinced me that I needed to face it at some point :)
3431. # [23:53] <gps> Bas: the fact we had this conversation about NSPR last week, now your thing, and the future with Servo convince me we'll need to cross this bridge some time
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3433. # [23:54] <gps> not to mention all the 3rd party trees imported into m-c currently
3434. # [23:54] <cpeterson> mdas: I'm not exactly sure (this code has grown a bit since I was helping last year), but I think it is OK for use to send touchmove events to content without touchstart.
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3438. # [23:56] <Bas> gps: That's kind of what I was thinking about, servo using Moz2D did really make the case a lot stronger.
3439. # [23:57] <mdas> cpeterson: interesting... I'll ping some more people about it to be sure, but we can also test around with it. Thanks for the help!
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3444. # [23:59] <terrence> philor|away: always possible
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