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  16. # [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4e929eed71c - Till Schneidereit - Bug 855895 - reading in failed jit-tests with -r or -R is broken. r=terrence
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  65. # [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccf927340e8e - Daniel Holbert - Bug 855850: Use MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT instead of #if, to verify that "break type" values are representable in 4 bits. r=mats
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  71. # [00:37] <tanvi> RyanVM|Dinner: i have an idea for the intermittent test failure in bug 855370.
  72. # [00:37] <tanvi> RyanVM|Dinner: i want to extend an internal timeout within the test. Can i push this without a review to see if it fixes the failures?
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  74. # [00:38] <tanvi> and if it doesn't, change the timeout back to what it was originally / roll back the patch
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  116. # [01:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/354fb47d8205 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 854945 - PhoneNumber.js: update metadata. r=gal
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  126. # [01:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c29279c95238 - Sid Stamm - Bug 687086 - change nsIContentSecurityPolicy to return two values, shouldBlock and shouldReportViolation. r=bz
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  139. # [01:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b50cbf374d6 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 854102 - Fix JS syntax errors that broke the builtin file picker. r=mounir
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  149. # [01:20] <philor> oh, look, bustage
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  151. # [01:22] <philor> mounir: ping
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  160. # [01:28] <philor> oh, neat, those are the same failures as when the same patch landed this morning
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  177. # [01:36] <RyanVM|Dinner> tanvi: wouldn't be the first time people have tried such things
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  179. # [01:37] <RyanVM|Dinner> tanvi: of course, that's also why it's generally recommended to avoid timeouts in mochitests
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  182. # [01:37] <glandium> Jesse: the error is pretty explicit: the environment lacks libglib
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  184. # [01:37] <glandium> er libgio
  185. # [01:38] <glandium> Jesse: you should check with releng
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  203. # [02:02] <NeilAway> wait, rhythmbox debuginfo depends on webkit debuginfo?
  204. # [02:02] <Luqman> what? o.o
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  209. # [02:05] <NeilAway> mounir: for the file-picker-textfield-removal, you're putting the file name after the browse button?
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  211. # [02:06] <NeilAway> Luqman: gdb said "hey, you know I couldn't find some symbols for rhythmbox"
  212. # [02:06] <NeilAway> Luqman: so I did sudo debuginstall and it said "hey, you need the webkit debuginfo too, only 314MB"
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  217. # [02:08] <Luqman> NeilAway: i can't remember, does rhythmbox have a webview or something? that might explain it
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  222. # [02:11] <jlebar|away> jduell: thanks for looking at that push notifications bug. I should have asked someone who knows WS to look at it before I blessed it.
  223. # [02:12] <jduell> jlebar|away: sure, feel free to ping me if any other WS patch stuff comes up
  224. # [02:12] <jlebar|away> jduell: I will. :)
  225. # [02:13] <mjrosenb> philor: ok, i'm going to try to re-land armv6, I have a successful push to try.
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  230. # [02:15] <jlebar|away> philor: Am I right in observing that we coalesce "Ubuntu" tests, and that these are AWS tests?
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  234. # [02:17] <jlebar|away> philor: If so...do you see any problem with not coalescing those tests?
  235. # [02:17] <philor> mjrosenb: okay, you just need to back out fa9cde226b2a, CLOSED TREE, first, so I can reopen the tree
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  237. # [02:18] <mjrosenb> philor: i'll wait for the closed tree to re-open.
  238. # [02:18] <philor> jlebar|away: that's a question for releng, which they will probably answer "$"
  239. # [02:18] <jlebar|away> philor: let's ask then.
  240. # [02:18] <jlebar|away> philor: If "$" is seriously their answer, I may have some other characters in reply...
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  242. # [02:19] <RyanVM> hmm, so why hasn't mounir been backed out yet?
  243. # [02:21] <philor> I'm at work
  244. # [02:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2b965a319c6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset fa9cde226b2a (bug 839788) for breaking mochitests the same way it did the first time it landed on a CLOSED TREE.
  245. # [02:21] <RyanVM> jlebar|away: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21226428&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  246. # [02:21] <philor> I was, however, able to put a few links to logs into the bug
  247. # [02:21] <jlebar|away> RyanVM: Is that a new failure mode?
  248. # [02:22] <RyanVM> yep
  249. # [02:22] <jlebar|away> RyanVM: :(
  250. # [02:22] <RyanVM> buried amongst mounir's orange
  251. # [02:22] <jlebar|away> RyanVM: It's intermittent, though?
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  253. # [02:25] <jlebar|away> RyanVM: Well, I need to go to sleep. If you need to back me out for that, go ahead. But we might be trading a lot of oranges for that one new one, and I'm OK with that if you are.
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  255. # [02:26] <RyanVM> only one occurance so far
  256. # [02:26] <RyanVM> i'll file and cc you
  257. # [02:26] <jlebar|away> RyanVM: thanks
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  259. # [02:26] <philor> mjrosenb: reopened
  260. # [02:26] <philor> RyanVM: thanks for the backbackoutout
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  270. # [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f00c41faab97 - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 836486: Part 1 - Add in ARMv6 support for IonMonkey (r=jbramley)
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  280. # [02:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9eb6532ccfc3 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 842130 - Fix fullscreen video which currently isn't working. r=mbrubeck
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  282. # [02:35] <firebot> Check-in:
  283. # [02:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2225846e42c - Tanvi Vyas - Bug 855730 - Extend the mochitest timeout for file_mixed_content_frameNavigation_secure_grandchild.html to 10 seconds instead of 5 seconds to prevent intermittent tests
  284. # [02:35] <firebot> failures. r=smaug
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  286. # [02:38] <philor> so maybe, maybe, that backout 16 pushes after something I want to see merged will prove to be a mergeable push
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  289. # [02:38] <mjrosenb> philor: out of curiosity, do you know how many tegra/panda boards we have?
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  293. # [02:40] <philor> mjrosenb: pandas is an insance number, like 900, they numbered them 0nnn because they were clearly close to needing 1000, but most of them are idle and not doing b2g jobs most of the time; tegras it's in theory around 300, but in fact a fair number are, shall we say, in a suboptimal state
  294. # [02:40] <philor> "insance"? I don't even know what word mated with insane on the way to my fingers to produce that
  295. # [02:41] <mjrosenb> philor: strange that the pandas are not always pegged.
  296. # [02:41] <mjrosenb> philor: so if we wanted to add rpi builds to the system, we'd likely need about 1,000 of them?
  297. # [02:42] <philor> so right now there are 48 panda jobs going, and 62 tegras
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  299. # [02:42] <RyanVM> ugh, so not filing any mroe orange bugs today
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  301. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> philor: I guess it is very spiky?
  302. # [02:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d470390898df - Bobby Holley - Bug 855922 - Check XBL scopes per-compartment in the SOW isSafeToUnwrap hook. r=bz
  303. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> philor: oh, I guess only 1 in 4 b2g jobs is run on a pandaboard?
  304. # [02:43] <philor> mjrosenb: like so many things, you'd want to talk to releng, I have the feeling they bought a ton of pandas for b2g, assigned many of them to b2g, and are currently waiting for b2g to discover some test that they care about, to run on them
  305. # [02:43] <mjrosenb> and we dont have the android-4 builds running on pandas anymore?
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  311. # [02:45] <philor> mjrosenb: one b2g job is in theory run on a panda, the gaia-ui-tests job; it currently doesn't even start, the pandas don't even get close to running it, but that doesn't actually matter because gaia devs are either interested in a different run of it that's done by QA elsewhere, or more likely, are uninterested in any tests
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  313. # [02:45] <philor> but yeah, the Android 4 Fennec jobs do run on pandas
  314. # [02:47] <mjrosenb> oh, i'm still not used to tbpl not displaying all of the jobs that will be run.
  315. # [02:47] <mjrosenb> I was looking at my push, and I didn't see any android-4 row.
  316. # [02:47] <philor> &showall=1
  317. # [02:47] <philor> oh, that
  318. # [02:47] <philor> &waitforabuildtofinish=1 :)
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  320. # [02:48] <philor> but you will want &showall=1 to see all the emulator b2g tests, since we got sick of looking at all but a couple of them
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  365. # [03:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c10a759015f - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 849185 - part2 - test case. r=allstars.chh
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  367. # [03:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c59a33280850 - Hsin-Yi Tsai - Bug 849185 - Disable the airplane mode when an emergency number is dialed. r=allstars.chh
  368. # [03:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/231da3d51bf9 - Randell Jesup - Bug 855595: Add Listener as well as track for unittests. Also clean up warnings r=ekr
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  405. # [04:19] <philor> treestatus really should have a one-click button right at the top for [Close mozilla-inbound with the message "Bustage"]
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  407. # [04:22] <tbsaunde> philor: "patches welcome :)"
  408. # [04:23] <philor> actually, I'm thinking more about a startup script, I turn a computer on and inbound is closed and then I look at it
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  410. # [04:23] <philor> all patches are welcome, but some are more welcome than others
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  412. # [04:25] <tbsaunde> lol
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  414. # [04:25] <ewong> where's the source for treestatus?
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  417. # [04:26] <philor> so, bbondy wanted to touch /CLOBBER and clobber for removing the only thing in metro/modules/, is that the bustage?
  418. # [04:26] <bbondy> checking
  419. # [04:27] <philor> ewong: https://github.com/mozilla/treestatus
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  421. # [04:27] <ewong> oh. its in github.. ;/
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  423. # [04:28] <bbondy> philor: I'll backout
  424. # [04:28] <philor> bbondy: here's the fun thing - you may need to clobber to back out, too :)
  425. # [04:29] <bbondy> I don't need to build it I'll just back it out
  426. # [04:29] <philor> since there are slaves which have successfully built with you in
  427. # [04:29] <bbondy> ya that's strange
  428. # [04:29] <philor> no, I mean clobberer-clobber, not you-clobber
  429. # [04:29] <philor> many of our delightful clobber surprises come with yet another surprise on the backout
  430. # [04:30] <philor> so I'll set it, while you work on backing out
  431. # [04:30] <bbondy> is that a commit message thing?
  432. # [04:30] <bbondy> like DONTBUILD
  433. # [04:30] <bbondy> k
  434. # [04:30] <philor> nope, it's a web app
  435. # [04:31] <philor> successfully clobbering means both touching the /CLOBBER file, and setting https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/clobberer/?branch=mozilla-inbound to actually do the clobbering of the build slaves
  436. # [04:31] <philor> the commit message thing you are going to want, though, is CLOSED TREE two words
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  438. # [04:32] <bbondy> k sorry
  439. # [04:32] <bbondy> ready for me to do it?
  440. # [04:32] <philor> sure, fire away
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  442. # [04:32] <philor> and it's no problem, you were betrayed by the build system, you're in august company ;)
  443. # [04:33] <bbondy> k should be good
  444. # [04:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85eedb253f25 - Brian R. Bondy - Backout 9eb6532ccfc3 for bustage on some slaves. r=me
  445. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/088d73e55949 - Brian R. Bondy - Backout b420dcf17910 for bustage on some slaves. CLOSED TREE. r=me
  446. # [04:33] <philor> huh, weirdest Pink Pixel of Death reftest failure ever, it's not the same color in the two tests that failed
  447. # [04:34] <philor> nor the same spot
  448. # [04:34] <philor> so instead of being one bit flip that stuck in a reused canvas, the run actually had two different bit flips?
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  454. # [04:40] <cpeterson> bad RAM?
  455. # [04:41] <bbondy> philor: so is it possible that everything was fine but it just required a clobber in the first place?
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  457. # [04:42] <philor> bbondy: yeah, I'll look in a bit if that's why the ones that built managed to build
  458. # [04:43] <bbondy> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9eb6532ccfc3#l8.12 I'm wondering if that's what trips up the build system
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  460. # [04:43] <philor> cpeterson: that's the best theory going, but the usual failure mode is two or six or eight failures where it's the same pixel every time, in the same wrong color
  461. # [04:43] <bbondy> I did a clean build on my machine btw and it succeeded
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  465. # [04:46] <philor> ugh, what fresh hell is this?
  466. # [04:46] <philor> 'tis snorp, leaking a Mutex
  467. # [04:48] * bbondy thought all builds were clobbers
  468. # [04:48] <philor> with an opt run on try with no tests
  469. # [04:48] <philor> BenWa: might want some debug and a test suite next time
  470. # [04:48] <philor> bbondy: all builds on Try are clobbers, because we like to trick you, but only a random assortment of builds elsewhere are
  471. # [04:49] <bbondy> hah
  472. # [04:49] <bbondy> keeping us on our toes
  473. # [04:50] <philor> yeah. and also, what on earth could you build dep on, on try? you don't want to build on the last try push, it was probably awful, so you'd have to build the last green cset on m-c, then build dep on that, taking forever
  474. # [04:50] <bbondy> hrm we could probably save some try resources by adding some kind of a NOCLOBBER commit message
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  476. # [04:50] <bbondy> ya I thought of that too :)
  477. # [04:50] <bbondy> that the last one is probably horrible :)
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  479. # [04:51] <philor> and they are separate slaves, because we'll let just anybody push to try, and they shouldn't be allowed to mess with the seekrits on regular slaves, so you can't just pick a slave that already has an m-c objdir
  480. # [04:52] <bbondy> ah ya
  481. # [04:52] <bbondy> btw I didn't push to try becuase I did a fresh clobber locally and it succeeded. Also because it was metro only code and we aren't running tests for that yet. I think the patches are good thogh.
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  483. # [04:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bfced2ecc0cf - Doug Turner - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - UDP Wakeup feature. r=jst, jlebar
  484. # [04:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2aaf82b852e7 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - Implementation. r=dougt, jst, jlebar
  485. # [04:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e93a4da26856 - Doug Turner - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - Interface. r=dougt, sr=sicking
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  487. # [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53b183fe1d62 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 89e99ecdf29f (bug 734691) for leaking
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  510. # [05:20] <philor> what is identity?
  511. # [05:20] * philor washes his hands
  512. # [05:21] <philor> oh, I mean the component identity, and whether I can blame a hashtable assertion in browser_newtab_focus.js on it, since it asserts the same way
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  515. # [05:22] <philor> oh, hey, describecomponents actually does!
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  519. # [05:29] <ewong> philor what kind of app is treestatus? jQuery?
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  523. # [05:34] <philor> ewong: "wsgi" or "Python" would be the two most accurate answers, though "a bit of Flask" isn't a bad answer either
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  525. # [05:34] <ewong> philor thanks..
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  532. # [05:41] <reuben> that reminds me, catlee-away still hasn't reviewed my pull request :|
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  542. # [05:52] <jcranmer> pop quiz:
  543. # [05:52] <jcranmer> where is NS_STACK_CLASS supposed to go?
  544. # [05:52] <jcranmer> A. NS_STACK_CLASS class Foo
  545. # [05:52] <jcranmer> B. class NS_STACK_CLASS Foo
  546. # [05:52] <jcranmer> C. class Foo NS_STACK_CLASS
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  555. # [06:03] <dougt> looking at nsm's orange.
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  559. # [06:07] <philor> sure, blame him
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  561. # [06:07] <dougt> philor: am i that transparent?
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  563. # [06:08] <philor> seems to be an unexpected interface...
  564. # [06:08] <dougt> yeah, in test_interfaces.html
  565. # [06:08] <dougt> we need to add PushManager
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  568. # [06:10] <dougt> philor: back out, or push http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2255824
  569. # [06:10] <dougt> thoughts?
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  572. # [06:11] <dougt> hmm.
  573. # [06:11] <dougt> those 4's worry me
  574. # [06:12] <philor> one's a clone timeout, I don't think you caused that
  575. # [06:13] <dougt> the "command timed out: 1200 seconds without output, attempting to kill" one?
  576. # [06:13] <philor> I suspect that hg log for test_interfaces.html will explain that the entire purpose of the test is to piss off everyone who lands a new interface, not positive though
  577. # [06:13] <philor> yeah, that's 1200 seconds of waiting trying to clone build/tools/
  578. # [06:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8693d1d4c86d - Doug Turner - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - Add PushManager to the test_interfaces.html test. r=dougt
  579. # [06:15] <dougt> philor: hah. that's probably true. Not sure what the point of the test is? /me files bug to remove the test.
  580. # [06:17] <philor> it would make a little bit of sense if all the patches to it had sr, as a trap for the unwary who would then ask wtf, and be told it traps people who add interfaces without asking for sr, but the log says no, nobody really cares
  581. # [06:17] <dougt> philor: 855966
  582. # [06:18] <dougt> your comments included.
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  585. # [06:18] * philor sucks it up and reads the bug that added it
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  590. # [06:22] <jcranmer> wow
  591. # [06:22] <jcranmer> someone already broke static checking
  592. # [06:22] <jcranmer> it's been less than 5 days
  593. # [06:23] <Callek> jcranmer: did you expect anything less!?
  594. # [06:23] <jcranmer> Callek: I expected it to stay working for a few weeks
  595. # [06:24] <Callek> jcranmer: you must be new here
  596. # [06:24] <jcranmer> Callek: actually, I'm porting the stack analysis right now
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  598. # [06:24] <jcranmer> and the wheel of shame goes to
  599. # [06:24] <jcranmer> dzbarsky
  600. # [06:24] <Callek> jcranmer: y'know I didn't *think* you were new here
  601. # [06:25] <jcranmer> Callek: the stack stuff is a world of broken right now
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  603. # [06:26] <jcranmer> I asked my quiz earlier because people use all three of those right now
  604. # [06:26] <jcranmer> when only one would even compile
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  615. # [06:39] <gkw> philor: ping
  616. # [06:39] <gkw> (or any other sheriff)
  617. # [06:40] <philor> heh, any other, at this time of night?
  618. # [06:40] <philor> gkw: pong
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  621. # [06:40] <gkw> philor: could you please consider backing out bug 789897? it's causing a really bad bug 855960
  622. # [06:41] <gkw> philor: and I think tomorrow is a holiday for Europe, so the dev might be on holiday, and our merge window is on Monday, when some of Europe might still be on holiday
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  624. # [06:42] * jcranmer wonders if he'll be able to compile through layout before heading to bed
  625. # [06:42] <gkw> philor: i've cc'ed you on bug 855960
  626. # [06:43] <philor> seconds before I started ranting, well done ;)
  627. # [06:43] <gkw> philor: basically 7 different assertion messages, crashes, etc. Nightly tomorrow might be unstable
  628. # [06:43] * bz is now known as bz_sleep
  629. # [06:43] <gkw> (if it isn't backed out)
  630. # [06:43] <@bz_sleep> dougt: ping
  631. # [06:43] <@bz_sleep> er....
  632. # [06:45] <philor> gkw: so are you asking for permission, which isn't mine or any sheriff's to grant, or are you asking for someone to watch the tree, at going on 11pm on a weeknight, or...
  633. # [06:45] <jcranmer> it's so much fun touching nscore.h, isn't it? :-/
  634. # [06:45] <dougt> bz_sleep: hey
  635. # [06:45] <gkw> philor: i'm wondering if it might be a good idea to do so
  636. # [06:46] <@bz_sleep> dougt: so test_interfaces....
  637. # [06:46] <philor> gkw: ah, you want someone who knows things, then - look, there's bz_sleep!
  638. # [06:46] <dougt> yeah.
  639. # [06:46] <dougt> bz_sleep: not critical.
  640. # [06:46] <@bz_sleep> dougt: The point is that we should actually be making a conscious decision on whether to stick shit on Window
  641. # [06:46] <@bz_sleep> dougt: esp. when there is no spec
  642. # [06:46] <@bz_sleep> dougt: so the patch in that bug exposes a PushManager on window
  643. # [06:46] <@bz_sleep> dougt: does it mean to? I have no clue.
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  645. # [06:47] <@bz_sleep> dougt: But presumably the patch author and reviewer do
  646. # [06:47] <@bz_sleep> dougt: the point being that any time someone names an interface nsIDOMSomething we auto-create a window.Something
  647. # [06:48] <@bz_sleep> dougt: which is then visible to all web pages and whatnot
  648. # [06:48] <dougt> so, every new event will be exposed on the window global, right?
  649. # [06:49] <@bz_sleep> well
  650. # [06:49] <@bz_sleep> Does the event generator force nsIDOM* as the name?
  651. # [06:49] <@bz_sleep> As the interface name, that is
  652. # [06:49] <dougt> yup.
  653. # [06:49] <@bz_sleep> Because if so, yes
  654. # [06:50] <@bz_sleep> Whether that's right or not... ask smaug?
  655. # [06:50] <dougt> i will tomorrow
  656. # [06:50] <@bz_sleep> Certainly various existing events (MouseEvent, etc) are exposed on Window
  657. # [06:50] <@bz_sleep> And most specs do want to expose their stuff
  658. # [06:50] <@bz_sleep> (but not geolocation for some reason)
  659. # [06:51] <@bz_sleep> The thing to be careful with is Mozilla-specific gunk
  660. # [06:51] <@bz_sleep> anyway
  661. # [06:51] <dougt> bug geo is listed! :)
  662. # [06:51] <dougt> incorrectly too. :) GeoGeolocation
  663. # [06:51] <@bz_sleep> well, that's because we don't actually follow the spec
  664. # [06:51] <dougt> following specs is hard.
  665. # [06:51] <dougt> :/
  666. # [06:51] <@bz_sleep> GeoGeolocation is what's on the global
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  668. # [06:51] <@bz_sleep> Because nsIDOMGeoGeolocation
  669. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/geolocation/nsIDOMGeoGeolocation.idl
  670. # [06:52] <dougt> yup
  671. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> We also expose GeoPositionCallback
  672. # [06:52] <dougt> that needs to be renamed, i think.
  673. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> etc
  674. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> well
  675. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> it needs to just die
  676. # [06:52] <@bz_sleep> once the webidl patches land
  677. # [06:52] <dougt> or that.
  678. # [06:52] <dougt> webidl...
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  681. # [06:53] <@bz_sleep> webidl geolocation, that is
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  684. # [06:59] <nsm> dougt: bz_sleep is window and navigator same in above context?
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  686. # [06:59] <@bz_sleep> nsm: huh?
  687. # [06:59] <dougt> bz_sleep: no. geolocation is on navigator
  688. # [07:00] <dougt> it shouldn't be on window at all.
  689. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> well
  690. # [07:00] <nsm> bz_sleep: PushManager is also on navigator
  691. # [07:00] <dougt> same problem.
  692. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> no
  693. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> PushManager is on window
  694. # [07:00] <dougt> it is defined as nsIDOMPushManager
  695. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> There are two separate objects
  696. # [07:00] <dougt> and is exposed as navigator.push
  697. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> navigator.push is some object
  698. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> window.PushManager is some other object
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  700. # [07:01] <nsm> err, not my object :)
  701. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> they are related insofar as window.PushManager.prototype == Object.getPrototypeOf(navigator.push)
  702. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> well
  703. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> "my" in what sense?
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  705. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> also in that navigator.push instanceof PushManager returns true
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  707. # [07:02] <dougt> i think if we moved to webidl, we wouldn't have to expose PushManager to content at all. bz_sleep ?
  708. # [07:02] <@bz_sleep> you don't have to do it now
  709. # [07:02] <dougt> why did we with geo?
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  711. # [07:03] <dougt> and the dozen other apis we added?
  712. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> because whoever wrote + reviewed the patches didn't think about what they wanted?
  713. # [07:03] <nsm> bz_sleep: my as in i hope i didn't break things with push
  714. # [07:03] <nsm> or maybe i did :)
  715. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> well
  716. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> if you wrote the pushmanager patches
  717. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> then you added window.PushManager
  718. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> But also, note that most web interfaces _do_ expose an interface object
  719. # [07:03] <nsm> yes i did, but i'm not sure how window.PushManager shows up
  720. # [07:04] <@bz_sleep> So you can do things like add methods to PushManager.prototype
  721. # [07:04] <@bz_sleep> oh, because you named the interface nsIDOMPushManager
  722. # [07:04] <@bz_sleep> And we have magic code that creates a property on window for every interface whose name starts with nsIDOM
  723. # [07:04] <dougt> doesn't the class info stuff require that the interface be named nsIDOM*
  724. # [07:04] <@bz_sleep> no
  725. # [07:04] <@bz_sleep> at least not last I checked
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  727. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> hmm
  728. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> You mean for the primary interface>
  729. # [07:05] <dougt> this code is using that navigator category thing… and is written in js
  730. # [07:05] * @bz_sleep looks
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  732. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> nope
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  734. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> At least not that I can see.
  735. # [07:06] <dougt> bz_sleep: i think i am going to start filing bugs against many of the things in test_interfaces
  736. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> OK
  737. # [07:06] <dougt> i am not convinced, for example, many of the Moz* things should be in this
  738. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> I mean.. clearly the test wasn't doing its job, if people were just blindly adding shit to it. :(
  739. # [07:06] <dougt> MozNetworkStatsManager, or MozNavigatorMobileMessage
  740. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> We should add a big "Hey, are you SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT?" comment
  741. # [07:06] <@bz_sleep> yeah, those are pretty fishy
  742. # [07:07] <dougt> bz_sleep: or… you are adding something to the window object… talk to _________ first
  743. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> heh
  744. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> We'd need to pick a victim
  745. # [07:07] <dougt> i have an intern
  746. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> I guess the DOM owner...... ;)
  747. # [07:07] <dougt> haha
  748. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> Are you sure you want your intern making these decisions? ;)
  749. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> Anyway
  750. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> 2am
  751. # [07:08] <@bz_sleep> really should sleep
  752. # [07:08] <dougt> bz_sleep: he can go through the specs and compile a list.
  753. # [07:08] * @bz_sleep needs to be up by 7
  754. # [07:08] <dougt> okay bz_sleep…
  755. # [07:08] <dougt> thanks!
  756. # [07:08] * dougt waves
  757. # [07:08] <@bz_sleep> No problem.
  758. # [07:08] <@bz_sleep> G'night!
  759. # [07:09] <nsm> dougt: you really plan menial jobs for ggp behind his back!
  760. # [07:09] <dougt> he wants to work on harder things.
  761. # [07:09] <dougt> and i like that.
  762. # [07:10] <dougt> i think he's going to look at the chucked request bug
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  835. # [08:09] <romaxa> hmm where is libxpcom.so
  836. # [08:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a41df293bab - Reuben Morais - No bug - Don't export the ContactService object. DONTBUILD
  837. # [08:10] <reuben> romaxa: bug 852950
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  840. # [08:12] <romaxa> aaaaaa
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  844. # [08:13] <reuben> :(
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  847. # [08:17] <romaxa> ./xulrunner
  848. # [08:17] <romaxa> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file libxul.so:
  849. # [08:17] <romaxa> ah that just wrong build
  850. # [08:20] <romaxa> now it works good
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  861. # [08:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a7aaa967ad3 - Julian Seward - Bug 855662 - SPS breakpad: free breakpad-allocated memory when unwinder thread shuts down. r=bgirard
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  863. # [08:45] <sewardj> are there any sherrifs around at the moment?
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  869. # [08:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4af5ba9da8c7 - Reuben Morais - No bug - Add EXPOSED_SYMBOLS back to ContactService.jsm.
  870. # [08:58] <KWierso|Home> sewardj: not a sheriff, but what's up?
  871. # [09:00] <sewardj> KWierso|Home: no big deal .. 853851 contained two r+'d patches. I landed one of them and ryanvm set the bug to FIXED, but the second one is as-yet unlanded.
  872. # [09:00] <sewardj> KWierso|Home: what's the protocol? should I reopen the bug?
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  876. # [09:02] <KWierso|Home> sewardj: not sure about protocol, but I'd just go ahead and reopen, unless you're landing the other patch really soon
  877. # [09:02] <sewardj> KWierso|Home: k, thx
  878. # [09:02] <KWierso|Home> with maybe a comment explaining that not everything's landed yet
  879. # [09:03] <reuben> sewardj: when you want the bug to be left open by whoever does the inbound->central merge, add "[leave open]" without the quotes to the whiteboard
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  881. # [09:03] <KWierso|Home> also that
  882. # [09:03] <sewardj> reuben: k, thx
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  884. # [09:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9508b8cf262 - Edgar Chen - Bug 852815 - Correct Icc related naming in RadioInterfaceLayer and RILContentHelper. r=allstars.chh
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  928. # [10:06] <Yoric> Is there a way, from JS, to test whether some property is defined as a getter?
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  932. # [10:09] <Yoric> Ah, getOwnPropertyDescriptor should make the trick.
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  972. # [10:41] <Yoric> Can someone remind me how I can convert a nsresult into a somewhat readable error name in JS?
  973. # [10:42] <Ms2ger> Something on Cu?
  974. # [10:47] <Yoric> Yeah, I'm exploring it atm.
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  976. # [10:48] <Yoric> Unrelated question: does anyone know whether Windows DLL contain any state?
  977. # [10:48] <Yoric> More precisely, is there a risk if several threads use the same linkage to a Windows DLL?
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  979. # [10:48] <Yoric> (by "linkage", I mean "dlopen equivalent", I can't remember the name)
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  991. # [11:01] <reuben> Yoric: LoadLibrary? Windows won't load it twice if that DLL still has a >0 refcount in the same process
  992. # [11:01] <Yoric> ok
  993. # [11:01] <Yoric> thanks
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  1208. # [14:33] <sachin_h> Does anyone know how to automatically syntax highlight jsm files in Sublime Text 2?
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  1217. # [14:43] <past> sachin_h: with a JSM file open, go to View -> Syntax -> Open all with current extension as -> JavaScript
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  1219. # [14:44] <sachin_h> past: thank you
  1220. # [14:44] <past> np
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  1244. # [15:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2aaf82b852e7 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - Implementation. r=dougt, jst, jlebar
  1245. # [15:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8693d1d4c86d - Doug Turner - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - Add PushManager to the test_interfaces.html test. r=dougt
  1246. # [15:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/766f39da353b - Gary Kwong - Update Valgrind suppressions for bug 793548 and bug 823782. DONTBUILD
  1247. # [15:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e93a4da26856 - Doug Turner - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - Interface. r=dougt, sr=sicking
  1248. # [15:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc72c7cba674 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
  1249. # [15:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfced2ecc0cf - Doug Turner - Bug 822712 - SimplePush - UDP Wakeup feature. r=jst, jlebar
  1250. # [15:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8aeabe064932 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
  1251. # [15:10] * philor|away is now known as philor
  1252. # [15:10] <RyanVM> padenot: ping
  1253. # [15:10] <padenot> RyanVM: pong
  1254. # [15:10] <RyanVM> padenot: have you had a chance to look at the media test assertions more lately?
  1255. # [15:10] <RyanVM> hit this a couple times lately
  1256. # [15:10] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21245883&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  1257. # [15:11] <padenot> ah, I've been doing other stuff, but I can have a look, yes
  1258. # [15:12] <RyanVM> padenot: i'm going to file this as a new bug
  1259. # [15:12] <RyanVM> though I'm pretty sure we've seen this before
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  1261. # [15:12] <RyanVM> and put it in the "media tests have too many assertions" catch-all bug
  1262. # [15:12] <padenot> I have to run, but I'll dupe it to the right bug
  1263. # [15:13] <padenot> thanks, anyways
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  1265. # [15:13] <RyanVM> padenot: please don't dupe
  1266. # [15:13] <RyanVM> makes it harder to star on tbpl
  1267. # [15:14] <RyanVM> feel free to mark a dependency, though
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  1273. # [15:23] <RyanVM> jimm: your pushes to inbound have me nervous
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  1275. # [15:23] <RyanVM> new-looking leaks
  1276. # [15:24] <jimm> probably that strlen call. I was curious about that myself.
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  1282. # [15:26] <jimm> RyanVM: would you mind backing out 17b7d2222f14? I'll fix it up to be sure it isn't the cause.
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  1284. # [15:26] <RyanVM> jimm, sure
  1285. # [15:26] <jimm> thx
  1286. # [15:26] <RyanVM> i've got some retriggers going too
  1287. # [15:27] <RyanVM> jimm: I'll hold off on commenting the bug until we know for sure
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  1289. # [15:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da6d6d18abea - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 17b7d2222f14 (bug 855407) for likely causing leaks.
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  1296. # [15:36] <vd> Is running "firefox -unittest", compiled from the latest mozilla-centrall tree supposed to succeed?
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  1300. # [15:39] <evilpie> is today a normal workday in the US?
  1301. # [15:39] <jlebar> evilpie: yes
  1302. # [15:40] <evilpie> thx
  1303. # [15:40] <@bz_sleep> mostly
  1304. # [15:40] <@bz_sleep> e.g. my kids have no school
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  1306. # [15:40] <philor> the primary work of today in the US is answering phone calls "yes, we are at work today"
  1307. # [15:41] <RyanVM> vd: what type of build are you trying to run it on?
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  1309. # [15:41] <RyanVM> philor: duh duh duh, another one bites the dust...
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  1312. # [15:42] <vd> RyanVM: are you asking about this line from my mozconfig: "ac_add_options --enable-application=browser
  1313. # [15:42] <vd> "
  1314. # [15:42] <vd> or something else?
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  1317. # [15:43] <evilpie> bz: is that a christian school?
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  1319. # [15:43] <RyanVM> vd: ok, so a desktop firefox build
  1320. # [15:44] <vd> RyanVM: anyway, this is my whole mozconfig: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2256709
  1321. # [15:44] <RyanVM> vd: then assuming you built with tests enabled, yes, it should pass
  1322. # [15:45] <vd> it crashes for me, I need some time to figure out what is going on...
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  1324. # [15:45] <@bz> evilpie: nope
  1325. # [15:46] <@bz> evilpie: public school
  1326. # [15:46] <@bz> evilpie: Of course they also get Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur off, and a few other things
  1327. # [15:46] <jcranmer|away> bz: your school system is weird
  1328. # [15:46] * jcranmer|away is now known as jcranmer
  1329. # [15:46] <evilpie> interesting, the school can freely decide when to close the school?
  1330. # [15:47] <@bz> The school district
  1331. # [15:47] <@bz> not the school
  1332. # [15:47] <jcranmer> I've had no school before when the school district had school...
  1333. # [15:47] <jcranmer> but that was because some idiot crashed into the power pole right in front and knocked out power
  1334. # [15:47] <@bz> jcranmer|away: mmm.... the schools in montgomery county, md, were similar.....
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  1337. # [15:49] <evilpie> we have some flexible days of free time, that is usually put between official holidays and weekends
  1338. # [15:49] <@bz> evilpie: Of course what the "school district" is varies widely in the US. ;)
  1339. # [15:49] <@bz> evilpie: around here it seems to be the town, typically
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  1342. # [15:49] <jcranmer> do you have any idea how many NS_STACK_CLASS failues we have right now?
  1343. # [15:50] <evilpie> any idea how many rooting issue we have in the browser?
  1344. # [15:50] <jcranmer> mmm 180 or so IIRC
  1345. # [15:50] <evilpie> haha
  1346. # [15:51] <evilpie> you wish :)
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  1348. # [15:51] <jcranmer> I don't follow those closely
  1349. # [15:51] <evilpie> around 10.000
  1350. # [15:51] <jcranmer> I just remember seeing a number like that
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  1352. # [15:52] <jcranmer> /src/trunk/mozilla/layout/svg/nsSVGFilterFrame.cpp:275:5: error: variable of type 'nsSVGFilterInstance' only valid on the stack new nsSVGFilterInstance(aTarget, aPaint, filter, bbox, filterRegion, ^
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  1354. # [15:52] <jcranmer> that's the first real one actually
  1355. # [15:52] <@bz> jcranmer: huh
  1356. # [15:52] <evilpie> we should put this NS_STACK_CLASS on JS::Rooted<> as well
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  1358. # [15:52] <@bz> yes!
  1359. # [15:52] <jcranmer> evilpie: wait a few days
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  1361. # [15:52] <jcranmer> I'll get it in MFBT first
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  1363. # [15:54] <jcranmer> half of these failures are just
  1364. # [15:54] <jcranmer> people not putting NS_STACK_CLASS on things that need it
  1365. # [15:56] <luisbg> morning :)
  1366. # [15:56] <jcranmer> (well, technically the nsAutoString being a stack class is the first failure, but I removed that before I even tried building)
  1367. # [15:58] <jcranmer> 138 files changed
  1368. # [15:58] <jcranmer> reviewers are going to have lots of fun with this
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  1371. # [15:58] <@bz> mmm
  1372. # [15:58] <@bz> nsAutoString should be a stack class
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  1374. # [15:59] <@bz> Whoever is using it not on stack should stop
  1375. # [15:59] <jcranmer> what about people who use nsAutoString as a class member
  1376. # [15:59] <@bz> The whole point is that you shouldn't
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  1378. # [16:00] <jcranmer> line 2681 -- u->mString = new nsAutoString(aString);
  1379. # [16:00] <jcranmer> content/base/src/nsElement.cpp
  1380. # [16:01] <@bz> mozilla::gl::TextureImage::Release
  1381. # [16:01] <@bz> We refcount those off-thread?
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  1383. # [16:01] * @bz keeps getting shutdown fatal asserts in that
  1384. # [16:01] <@bz> jcranmer: uh
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  1386. # [16:01] <@bz> jcranmer: nsElement?
  1387. # [16:01] <avih> vlad: nice work with unreal engine :) is your talk online someplace?
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  1389. # [16:02] <tbsaunde> is there a reason we don't do the private operator delete / new for nsAutoString?
  1390. # [16:02] <we11ington> mbrubeck: ping
  1391. # [16:02] <@bz> jcranmer: That stringbuilder thing looks bogus at first glance....
  1392. # [16:02] <jcranmer> bz: there are a handful of classes that use it as a member (like nsDOMFile)
  1393. # [16:02] <jcranmer> which probably aren't stack classes
  1394. # [16:03] <@bz> jcranmer: I know there are. I'm saying they're buggy.
  1395. # [16:03] <avih> vlad: and unrelated, is rAF registration from JS synchronous? i.e, if the event queue is long, and i issue a rAF and a setTimeout(0), and rAF registers synchronously, will rAF callback be invoked before the setTimeout one?
  1396. # [16:03] <jcranmer> nsAutoString is really just "using new <foo> is pointless"
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  1398. # [16:03] <jcranmer> like nsAutoTrray, etc.
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  1400. # [16:04] <@bz> avih: it could be, yes
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  1402. # [16:05] <jcranmer> okay
  1403. # [16:05] <jcranmer> time to redistribute these changes into their patches
  1404. # [16:05] <jcranmer> and then post em for review
  1405. # [16:05] <avih> bz: interesting. i deduced it from a discussion on bug 850163, but wanted to confirm. so rAF registers synchronously?
  1406. # [16:05] <@bz> yes
  1407. # [16:05] <@bz> well
  1408. # [16:05] <@bz> what do you mean by "synchronously"?
  1409. # [16:06] <@bz> You call rAF
  1410. # [16:06] <@bz> and then the next time there's a tick you get callled
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  1412. # [16:06] <avih> i mean that the rAF call directly adds an observer, rather than posting an event that will add an observer
  1413. # [16:06] <@bz> The difference between those is not observable
  1414. # [16:06] <avih> possibly s/observer/callback/
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  1416. # [16:07] <@bz> generally speaking
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  1418. # [16:07] <@bz> But yes, in the implementation it directly adds an observer
  1419. # [16:07] <avih> those being timeout and raf?
  1420. # [16:07] <@bz> And in the spec too.
  1421. # [16:07] <@bz> "those" being "posts an event to add an observer" and "add an observer"
  1422. # [16:07] <avih> oh
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  1425. # [16:08] <avih> but settimeout callback will ALWAYS be calledback after all the current queue events have been cleared, while the synchronous registration from rAF might have the next event callback and not wait the entire queue, right?
  1426. # [16:09] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: so, what is the difference between NS_STACK_CLASS and deleted operator new / delete? just placement new being handeld by the first?
  1427. # [16:09] <@bz> avih: First, there are multiple queues
  1428. # [16:09] <@bz> avih: per spec
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  1430. # [16:09] <@bz> avih: with ordering between them undefined
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  1432. # [16:10] <avih> bz: in that case, i might wanna read the spec before wasting your time ;) what spec is it?
  1433. # [16:10] <@bz> avih: "html5"
  1434. # [16:10] <avih> oh :)
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  1436. # [16:10] <@bz> avih: which defines event queues and whatnot
  1437. # [16:10] <avih> right
  1438. # [16:10] <@bz> avih: but the other relevant spec is https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webperf/raw-file/tip/specs/RequestAnimationFrame/Overview.html#processingmodel
  1439. # [16:10] <@bz> avih: which says which event queue rAF uses
  1440. # [16:11] <@bz> avih: which is the "animation task source"
  1441. # [16:11] <@bz> avih: so rAF is ordered wrt other things in that task source
  1442. # [16:11] <avih> and do we properly follow the spec on this?
  1443. # [16:11] <@bz> avih: nope
  1444. # [16:11] <@bz> well
  1445. # [16:11] <@bz> we have a single global event queue
  1446. # [16:11] <avih> yup
  1447. # [16:11] <@bz> which is spec-compliant
  1448. # [16:11] <@bz> since the spec requires that things be ordered per-task-source
  1449. # [16:12] <@bz> and we just order them all, sorta
  1450. # [16:12] <philor> RyanVM: did the b2g mochitests just decide to unhide themselves? they are visible on central and fx-team, hidden on inbound
  1451. # [16:12] <avih> right, so one long queue still keeps the order of each task force
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  1453. # [16:12] <RyanVM> philor: the job name changed
  1454. # [16:12] <avih> source*
  1455. # [16:12] <RyanVM> so the hiding disappeared
  1456. # [16:12] <philor> nice
  1457. # [16:13] <RyanVM> i re-hid inbound yesterday but haven't done m-c or fx-team
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  1460. # [16:13] <@bz> avih: right
  1461. # [16:13] <@bz> avih: fwiw, setTimeout uses the "timer task source"
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  1463. # [16:13] <@bz> avih: see http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/timers.html#get-the-timed-task
  1464. # [16:13] <@bz> avih: end of section
  1465. # [16:14] <@bz> avih: So it's perfectly valid to suspend rAF but keep firing setTimeout (which we do sometimes)
  1466. # [16:14] <@bz> avih: or vice versa (which I _think_ we don't do)
  1467. # [16:14] <avih> bz: but within gecko, both settimeout and raf use the same queue, and settimeout adds a new (future) timer callback event, while raf registers directly, and thus might be served for an existing queue event, thus possibly much earlier than the settimeout callback, right?
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  1469. # [16:15] <@bz> avih: correct
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  1471. # [16:15] <@bz> avih: or much later
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  1474. # [16:15] <avih> because we sometimes throttle raf?
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  1476. # [16:15] <@bz> yes
  1477. # [16:15] <avih> per tab etc?
  1478. # [16:15] <@bz> yes
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  1480. # [16:15] <avih> right
  1481. # [16:15] <@bz> and we throttle setTimeout
  1482. # [16:16] <avih> but for the same focused tab, it will work as i described with no exceptions?
  1483. # [16:16] <avih> (at least no normal exceptions?)
  1484. # [16:16] <@bz> well
  1485. # [16:17] <@bz> so you make the rAF call
  1486. # [16:17] <@bz> That adds a listener
  1487. # [16:17] <@bz> which will get called sometime in the next 16ms
  1488. # [16:17] <@bz> your setTimeout(0) will get called sometime in the next 4ms
  1489. # [16:17] <@bz> depending on what's going on with nesting level
  1490. # [16:17] <avih> right, and that 16ms callback might already be waiting at the queue as far as we can tell
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  1492. # [16:17] <@bz> right, hence "sometime"
  1493. # [16:17] <@bz> might be asap, might be 16ms from now
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  1495. # [16:18] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: NS_STACK_CLASS also enforces that it can't be used in global/static variables and that subclasses or classes that use it as a member are also NS_STACK_CLASS
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  1499. # [16:18] <avih> while set timeout will always be served after all the existing queue events have been served. because settimeout is inherently asynchronous, while raf registered sync
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  1501. # [16:18] <@bz> That's not true
  1502. # [16:18] <avih> oh
  1503. # [16:18] <avih> hmm..
  1504. # [16:19] <@bz> The setTimeout will be served when it's served
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  1506. # [16:19] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: good point :)
  1507. # [16:19] <@bz> Have you looked at the setTimeout code? ;)
  1508. # [16:19] <tmcb> hi, i installed thunderbird and imported mail from outlook 2007 - that worked fine but trying to import the settings generated an import error (mailbox accounts etc...) does anyone know if that's a known bug? I'm a C++ programmer so would like to get involved in finding the issue but wasn't sure of the best way to get started.
  1509. # [16:19] <avih> if there are 100 events waiting at the queue, can settimeout be served before those 100 events have been cleared?
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  1512. # [16:19] <@bz> avih: I believe so, yes
  1513. # [16:19] * @bz double-checks
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  1515. # [16:20] <avih> bz: (i mean, setTimeout was called when the queue had 100 events waiting)
  1516. # [16:20] <RyanVM> jimm: go figure, I can't make either leak happen no matter how many retriggers I've done thus far...
  1517. # [16:20] <@bz> One sec
  1518. # [16:20] * @bz pulls up code
  1519. # [16:20] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I think we should still do the operator deleting thing for all NS_STACK_CLASSES since its the common case and will mean less static analysis only bustage
  1520. # [16:20] <avih> .me follows ;)
  1521. # [16:20] <avih> /*! :)
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  1523. # [16:21] <@bz> So
  1524. # [16:21] <@bz> nsGlobalWindow::RunTimeout
  1525. # [16:21] <@bz> That's what setTimeout's callback calls
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  1528. # [16:22] <@bz> So let me back up
  1529. # [16:22] <@bz> We have one nsITimer per setTimeout call
  1530. # [16:22] <avih> right
  1531. # [16:22] <@bz> When that nsITimer fires, we look at the "current time"
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  1533. # [16:23] <@bz> and fire all timeouts scheduled for before then
  1534. # [16:23] <@bz> So say I have an event queue with 100 events in it
  1535. # [16:23] <@bz> at time T
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  1537. # [16:24] <@bz> one of those events is the timer firing for a timeout scheduled for T-1
  1538. # [16:24] <@bz> So it's posted its event already
  1539. # [16:24] <@bz> I call setTimeout(0)
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  1541. # [16:24] <avih> oh, i see
  1542. # [16:24] <@bz> That creates a new nsTimeout for time T
  1543. # [16:24] <@bz> and starts a new nsITimer
  1544. # [16:24] <@bz> but when we process the event for the T-1 timer, we go "oh, it's time T, fire all the timeouts for time T or before"
  1545. # [16:25] <avih> hmm..
  1546. # [16:25] <avih> how likely is such sequence?
  1547. # [16:25] <@bz> What do you mean?
  1548. # [16:25] <avih> (that a late timer fires, but earlier ones haven't yet)
  1549. # [16:26] <@bz> avih: what do you mean?
  1550. # [16:26] <@bz> avih: So the relevant code is nsGlobalWindow::RunTimeout
  1551. # [16:27] <avih> yeah, looking at it too
  1552. # [16:27] <@bz> avih: all it does is when _any_ timer fires we fire all the timers which are due at that point in time
  1553. # [16:27] <@bz> avih: basically because this code totally doesn't trust nsITimer (with good reason!)
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  1555. # [16:28] <avih> bz: yeah, i understand, i just try to imagine cases for the current focused tab where there would actually be such earlier timers for which we didn't get the event yet, but still need to fire before the currently served timer event
  1556. # [16:29] <@bz> um
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  1559. # [16:29] <@bz> how do you mean?
  1560. # [16:29] <avih> sec, let me organize my thoughts :)
  1561. # [16:30] <@bz> ok
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  1563. # [16:31] <avih> bz: this loop https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp#10262
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  1565. # [16:31] <avih> how likely is it to actually find timer events which should be served before the trigger for the current handler?
  1566. # [16:32] <@bz> um...
  1567. # [16:33] <@bz> you mean before "now"
  1568. # [16:33] <@bz> which is not the same thing
  1569. # [16:33] <avih> yes
  1570. # [16:33] <@bz> It's trivial to construct cases in which it would happen....
  1571. # [16:33] <avih> hmm.. we're here because we're servign a timer event. lets say for deadline T. how likely are we to find unfired timer events which target t<T?
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  1574. # [16:34] <@bz> You mean on the web?
  1575. # [16:34] <@bz> I'd have to measure
  1576. # [16:34] <@bz> Here's a simple example
  1577. # [16:34] <@bz> say I have some code that does, onload:
  1578. # [16:34] <@bz> setTimeout(function foo(), 0);
  1579. # [16:34] <@bz> setTimeout(function bar() {}, 2);
  1580. # [16:35] <@bz> var start = new Date;
  1581. # [16:35] <avih> bz: stop. i get it :)
  1582. # [16:35] <@bz> while (new Date - start < 5);
  1583. # [16:35] <@bz> ok
  1584. # [16:35] <@bz> So basically, how often do we not service a timer quite on time _and_ have another timer around
  1585. # [16:35] <avih> i see. so we clear every timer which should fire before serving the current one.
  1586. # [16:36] <@bz> no
  1587. # [16:36] <@bz> we serve them in order
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  1589. # [16:36] <@bz> so whenever any timer fires
  1590. # [16:36] <@bz> we fire, in order, all timers that should fire before that point in time
  1591. # [16:36] <avih> which means that setTimeout might also be served before all the queue at the time of setTimeout call clears.
  1592. # [16:36] <@bz> yes, exactly
  1593. # [16:36] <avih> as i said, got it ;)
  1594. # [16:37] <avih> bz: thanks for the time and help. appreciated. now i should read the spec ;)
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  1596. # [16:38] <@bz> Good luck
  1597. # [16:38] <avih> (when i wrote "clear", i meant "handle")
  1598. # [16:39] <@bz> note that the spec may or may not have bearing on reality and may or may not match our impl
  1599. # [16:39] <@bz> and our impl may or may not be buggy
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  1601. # [16:39] <avih> sure :)
  1602. # [16:40] <avih> bz: got some time to discuss vsync related ideas/issues?
  1603. # [16:40] <froydnj> avih: we actually have telemetry for # of DOM timers fired at every native timeout
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  1605. # [16:41] <froydnj> avih: IIRC, it's pretty unusual to fire more than one setTimeout per timer
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  1608. # [16:42] <avih> froydnj: i'd imagine, i just thought it could never happen, but now i don't anymore.
  1609. # [16:42] <avih> well, not exactly this, but a related thingy
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  1611. # [16:43] <@bz> avih: can try
  1612. # [16:43] * @bz is not an expert on vsync
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  1614. # [16:44] <avih> bz: ok, so this is an initial working implementation of vsync refresh driver on windows. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d6bb269f5d02
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  1616. # [16:45] <avih> not a perfect implementation since it doesn't wait for OS vsync, but rather asks when was the last vsync, and what's the expected vsync interval, and adjusts the next high-res refresh driver timer according to that. it proves good enough
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  1618. # [16:46] <@bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856042 is why we need to do webidl for js-implemented stuff. :(
  1619. # [16:46] <avih> the immediate problem with this is that we don't get control over the intervals anymore. if the user has a 120hz monitor, that's the frequency we'll try to fire at
  1620. # [16:46] <@bz> avih: fwiw, did you see the bug about rAF and compositor thread interaction?
  1621. # [16:46] <@bz> avih: mmm what do other UAs do in that situation?
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  1623. # [16:47] <avih> bz: from empirical observations, IE10 uses exact vsync intervals
  1624. # [16:47] <avih> (all of them are 16.67ms apart with some 0.1ms stddev)
  1625. # [16:48] <avih> chrome looks like our experimental implementation, and also in integer intervals
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  1627. # [16:48] <avih> opera doesn't get it i think
  1628. # [16:48] <avih> i don't have a 120hz monitor to check how other UAs behave on this
  1629. # [16:49] <ehoogeveen> avih: sorry to jump in here, but how is this intended to work when a compositor is active?
  1630. # [16:49] <ehoogeveen> avih: I've seen problems before where a program tries to paint during VBlank, then ends up racing with the compositor (causing stutter)
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  1633. # [16:50] <avih> ehoogeveen: unclear yet. but the only change it introduces is that the refresh driver timeouts are in sync with vsync, rather than arbitrarily at 60hz\
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  1635. # [16:50] <avih> ehoogeveen: it's a rather small change
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  1637. # [16:51] <ehoogeveen> avih: Does a refresh driver timeout mark the start of painting, the end of painting, or something in between?
  1638. # [16:51] <@bz> avih: well, so can we get our hands on a 120Hz monitor?
  1639. # [16:51] <avih> also interesting observation btw, at teh paris workweek bas and i sampled few laptop monitors, turned out that 4 out of 9 had 50hz default refresh rate, which was quite surprising, which led us to work on vsync
  1640. # [16:51] <ehoogeveen> avih: s/paint/composite with OMTC I guess
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  1643. # [16:52] <ehoogeveen> avih: Yeah I think a lot of them switch to 50Hz when running on battery power, as well (I know my old laptop did that)
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  1645. # [16:52] <@bz> ehoogeveen: how refresh ticks and paint interact is failtastic
  1646. # [16:52] <avih> ehoogeveen: right now, without OMTC, it starts a layoutflush, which now directly triggers presentation IIRC
  1647. # [16:52] <@bz> ehoogeveen: I believe we paint off native paint events
  1648. # [16:52] <@bz> ehoogeveen: but we update layout and invalidate off refresh ticks....
  1649. # [16:53] <@bz> So the typical sequence is refresh tick, do some stuff, trigger invalidates, wait for OS paint event, paint
  1650. # [16:53] <@bz> I think
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  1652. # [16:53] <@bz> roc or tn would know for sure
  1653. # [16:53] <avih> bz: that's what i recall as well
  1654. # [16:54] <ehoogeveen> bz: Hmm, I see.. So OS paint might not be in sync with the refresh rate
  1655. # [16:54] <avih> anyway, the change is small, but the implication is that on a high refresh rate, we might try to flush layouts too quickly for our own sake
  1656. # [16:54] <avih> which would need some decimation of vblanks probably
  1657. # [16:55] <ehoogeveen> bz: But I think in principle, *starting* invalidation/painting/compositing after a vblank/OS composition event gives the most time for the OS compositor to pick up the new stuff
  1658. # [16:55] <@bz> ehoogeveen: oh, and another issue
  1659. # [16:55] <@bz> ehoogeveen: what about webgl?
  1660. # [16:55] <@bz> ehoogeveen: presumably running webgl right after a vblank is also the best time?
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  1662. # [16:55] <avih> BenWa: bananabread uses the refresh driver intervals. i verified it myself
  1663. # [16:56] <Bas> ehoogeveen: Mine does 50Hz on wall power as well.
  1664. # [16:56] <avih> hello, bas :)
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  1668. # [16:57] <ehoogeveen> bz: Probably.. I think OpenGL on Nvidia drivers on Windows has VSync enabled by default, so I'm not sure how that would interact with the rest
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  1670. # [16:57] <avih> ehoogeveen: define "has vsync"
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  1673. # [16:58] <@bz> My only context here is bug 854421
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  1675. # [16:58] <ehoogeveen> avih: as in, the present call (I'm not sure what the opengl version is called) only returns after vblank
  1676. # [16:58] <Bas> ehoogeveen: Actually, that depends on a flag you pass to context creation I believe.
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  1678. # [16:58] <Bas> glSwapBuffers, is the call.
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  1680. # [16:58] <avih> ehoogeveen: so does it block?
  1681. # [16:59] <@bz> I should note that on Mac at least we do some sort of blocking in the GL impl
  1682. # [16:59] <avih> or does the present just push to the backbuffer, and switch later on time?
  1683. # [16:59] <Bas> bz: It all depends btw, running right -before- vblank gives you better input latency ;)
  1684. # [16:59] <Bas> Running right after gives you least risk of missing a vblank.
  1685. # [16:59] <@bz> So I've seen profiles where we're gated at 60fps
  1686. # [16:59] <@bz> (that are using setTimeout(0)!)
  1687. # [16:59] <froydnj> hate how long js/ takes to build nowadays
  1688. # [16:59] <@bz> Not because of slowness but because we just block
  1689. # [16:59] <@bz> which is dumb
  1690. # [16:59] <Bas> bz: That's strange, but not too surprising.
  1691. # [17:00] <@bz> blocking the main thread on anything like vsync is just dumb
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  1693. # [17:00] <ehoogeveen> avih: from what Bas says, you can control the behavior - but if it does vsync then yes, it's a blocking call
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  1695. # [17:00] <avih> bz: indeed, benwa showd me how it looks at the profiler. seems a bit bad, since iirc we're also not letting any GC/CC take place during that blockage
  1696. # [17:00] <@bz> That's why bug 854421 worries me
  1697. # [17:00] <@bz> right
  1698. # [17:00] <@bz> we actually block
  1699. # [17:00] <@bz> it's ludicrous
  1700. # [17:00] <avih> yeah
  1701. # [17:00] <@bz> So it seems to me like we need to have someone sit down
  1702. # [17:01] <@bz> and actually figure out how this webgl/gl/compositor/rAF/refresh-driver crap _should_ all work
  1703. # [17:01] * @bz recommends the May work week....
  1704. # [17:01] <Bas> bz: We should.
  1705. # [17:01] <@bz> since almost everyone who cares will presumbly be there
  1706. # [17:01] <Bas> bz: Note that me and avih at least came up with a much better scheme for driving the refresh driver on windows.
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  1709. # [17:02] <avih> yeah, it's not perfect, but it has the advantage of never blocking anything
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  1713. # [17:02] <avih> and the api should either exist on other OSs, or should be quite easy to implement ourselves IMO
  1714. # [17:02] <Bas> That all depends on the behavior of the D3D9/10 Present call ;)
  1715. # [17:02] <Bas> But no worries, I've made sure that should never block :p
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  1717. # [17:02] <avih> :)
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  1720. # [17:03] * ehoogeveen remembers trying to get proper VSync on his laptop, which likes to sometimes not send VBlank signals at all
  1721. # [17:03] <ehoogeveen> That was.. fun
  1722. # [17:03] <avih> :)
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  1724. # [17:04] <avih> vsync has to be one of the oldest and still not always implemented subjects of computer graphics :)
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  1726. # [17:04] <ehoogeveen> I could sort of measure the refresh rate, then 'insert' a VBlank event when it should have happened, to keep things working smoothly
  1727. # [17:04] <avih> i recall doing border scroll tricks on the 48k spectrum which used vsync ;)
  1728. # [17:04] <avih> meh.. i must be old ;)
  1729. # [17:04] <@bz> anyway
  1730. # [17:04] <jcranmer> 24 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 2538 deletions(-)
  1731. # [17:05] <@bz> Like I said, we should decide on a plan
  1732. # [17:05] <avih> bz: so yes. decimation of intervals. it's easy to increase decimation - we just detect that we're consistently late. but the other way around is more tricky
  1733. # [17:05] <@bz> and implement
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  1736. # [17:06] <@bz> Instead of flailing about with various half-measures
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  1740. # [17:06] <avih> bz: i think there are 3 main issues: 1. get vsync api on all platforms. i think the one bas added looks like a viable goal.
  1741. # [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51be4c6ccf8e - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 831768 part 2 - Also defer painting from RecvUpdateBackground just as we did with RecvAsyncSetWindow, r=gfritzsche
  1742. # [17:07] <vd> BenWa: ping
  1743. # [17:07] <avih> 2. decide how to handle/auto-latch to different refresh rates if we can't keep up
  1744. # [17:07] <avih> 3. make sure it works with OMTC
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  1747. # [17:09] <avih> so who are the working group on vsync? :)
  1748. # [17:10] <@gavin> Yoric: re: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=731189&action=edit, I noticed that too, but AFAICT the writeAtomic promise doesn't return a result
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  1751. # [17:10] <@gavin> Yoric: so shouldn't we just remove use of "result"?
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  1754. # [17:11] <jesup> avih: vsync *good* for video/animation. Critical really
  1755. # [17:11] <avih> jesup: yeah, we're all for it ;)
  1756. # [17:12] <jesup> Like, for example, WebRTC :-)
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  1758. # [17:12] <avih> though video typically has other frame rates, most noteably 24, 25, 30, 29.97
  1759. # [17:13] <Bas> avih: Online I'd say 30 and 29.97 are both rare.
  1760. # [17:13] <Fallen> What do mozilla folks use for javascript code coverage these days? There used to be the jscoverage project, but its been superceeded by the jscover project, which doesn't look like it has mozilla support
  1761. # [17:13] <Bas> 25p is probably most common in online video I think
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  1763. # [17:13] <jesup> We (Worldgate/ojo) used to run our compositor N ms before vsync using a PLL to adjust it to run "in-time" with (almost) never missing a vsync switch.
  1764. # [17:13] <jesup> bas: 25p is rare in the US :-)
  1765. # [17:13] <avih> Bas: 30 would be rare indeed, except for home captured video. 29.97 actually "floats around" quite a lot from bad conversions
  1766. # [17:13] <Bas> jesup: But it's common in online encoding.
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  1769. # [17:14] <avih> Bas: yeah, YT does 25, and probably vimeo as well?
  1770. # [17:15] <avih> though iirc TY also does 30. not sure though
  1771. # [17:15] <jesup> bas: really... hadn't seen that. WebRTC typically runs at 30, and I think most digital camcorders (and recoding on my Canon camera IIRC) are 30 or 60
  1772. # [17:15] <Bas> jesup Sony is 25p or 50i at least.
  1773. # [17:15] <Bas> They HD ones, at least.
  1774. # [17:15] <Bas> *their
  1775. # [17:15] <jesup> avih: I figured YT would do 25 or 30 depending on the source
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  1778. # [17:15] <avih> yeah
  1779. # [17:16] <Bas> jesup: I believe my Canon 5D Mark III defaults to 25p as well, but I'm not 100% sure.
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  1782. # [17:16] <Bas> (It supports 30, 25 and 24, of course, could be the default is region based)
  1783. # [17:17] <jesup> My Canon HD camcorder is 60, unless you select "movie mode" in which case it's 24
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  1785. # [17:17] <ehoogeveen> Streaming websites are another source of varied frame rates.. though that would go through Flash at the moment
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  1787. # [17:17] <jesup> I think the defaults are region-dependent
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  1790. # [17:18] <lightsofapollo> Anyone know about async animations + pseudo elements ? "Gecko bug: Async transition of pseudoelements not supported. See bug 771367 [span]"
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  1792. # [17:18] <@bz> lightsofapollo: where is that?
  1793. # [17:19] <lightsofapollo> bz: Calendar App
  1794. # [17:19] <jesup> yeah, Canon HF100 is 30p/60i, unless you select movie mode (24)
  1795. # [17:19] <@bz> lightsofapollo: And also, what's the question?
  1796. # [17:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f372d173b948 - Simone Carletti - Bug 853810 - Add .POST to PSL. r=gerv.
  1797. # [17:19] <@bz> ah
  1798. # [17:19] <lightsofapollo> bz: What is is and how can I get rid of it?
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  1801. # [17:19] <jesup> in the US :-)
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  1803. # [17:19] <@bz> What is what?
  1804. # [17:19] <lightsofapollo> the pseudo span
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  1806. # [17:19] <Bas> jesup: Just checked our series collection, Game of Thrones HD MKVs are 29.97fps, Bones, House, Mythbusters, Big Bang Theory and Grey's Anatomy are all 23.97
  1807. # [17:19] <@bz> presumably there's a transition on span::before or span::after
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  1809. # [17:20] <lightsofapollo> bz: or a better question is should I be worked about thos at all
  1810. # [17:20] <@bz> or an animation
  1811. # [17:20] <lightsofapollo> bz: ahh
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  1814. # [17:20] <@bz> well
  1815. # [17:20] <@bz> all it means is we do the animation on the main thread
  1816. # [17:20] <@bz> _and_ that you turned on layers.offmainthreadcomposition.log-animations
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  1818. # [17:21] <jesup> bas: given most of those source in the US, I suspect they're originally HD 1920@60i
  1819. # [17:21] <@bz> Presumably via the debug.log-animations.enabled setting in b2g
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  1821. # [17:21] <lightsofapollo> bz: let me find where this is and I will bug you more… I found some perf issues with some of our global CSS that is causing some slowdown for me...
  1822. # [17:21] <lightsofapollo> ( global as in our gaia building blocks )
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  1825. # [17:22] <Bas> jesup: I doubt it, but I'm trying to find out.
  1826. # [17:22] <jesup> bas: pretty much all US TV production is in 1920@60i or 60p
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  1831. # [17:24] <avih> jesup: you do know that NTSC also has 59.94, right?
  1832. # [17:25] <avih> NTSC generally sucks though ;)
  1833. # [17:25] <avih> and IVTC is ugly
  1834. # [17:26] <jlebar> Does <audio autoplay> block document.onload?
  1835. # [17:26] <avih> at least in PAL, films are sped up 4%, but the frames are the original ones
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  1837. # [17:27] <jlebar> Or otherwise, is there a way to know when an <audio> starts playing?
  1838. # [17:27] <jesup> avih: I worked in internet-browsing (via spyglass and later mozilla 1.0) over cable settop boxes (as thin clients) in teh days before digital TV, so I know very well about NTSC....... and how it handles color...
  1839. # [17:27] <avih> jesup: i've been a moderator on doom9 since 2002 or so ;)
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  1841. # [17:28] <avih> still am, technically, though much less involved these days..
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  1844. # [17:30] <derf> jlebar: It should fire the playing event.
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  1851. # [17:32] <jlebar> derf: ah, that was the keyword I needed in order to find the list of events in whatwg.
  1852. # [17:32] <jlebar> derf: thanks.
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  1854. # [17:32] <jlebar> (it's obvious now!)
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  1863. # [17:35] <Bas> jesup: So I can't find any HD recordings of most of the major series on Usenet which are anything else than 24p or 23.97p
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  1868. # [17:35] <avih> Bas: did you just scan the whole usenet archives? ;)
  1869. # [17:36] <Bas> avih: Just downloaded a couple of HD files :p
  1870. # [17:36] <avih> :)
  1871. # [17:36] <Bas> (well, the info files anyway)
  1872. # [17:36] <avih> yeah
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  1875. # [17:36] <Bas> So I'm -guessing- that's what they record at, but it could just be silly mkv conversions.
  1876. # [17:37] <avih> i think that the major groups/guys do proper conversion
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  1882. # [17:37] <nmatsakis> so I'm getting a consistent crash in FF nightly----I guess the thing to do is file a bug?
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  1884. # [17:38] <@bz> nmatsakis: yes
  1885. # [17:38] <@bz> nmatsakis: got a breakpad id?
  1886. # [17:38] <avih> nmatsakis: also, try with a clean profile, just for reference
  1887. # [17:38] <nmatsakis> I ... don't know
  1888. # [17:38] <@bz> (the real thing to do is check for an existing bug)
  1889. # [17:38] <@bz> nmatsakis: well, load about:crashes and see? ;)
  1890. # [17:38] <@smaug> aluminum laptops are so bad when the room temperature is close to 0C
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  1892. # [17:38] <nmatsakis> bz: there are entries in about:crashes
  1893. # [17:39] <@bz> nmatsakis: ok, are the timestamps matching your crash?
  1894. # [17:39] <avih> smaug: true lol
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  1896. # [17:39] <@bz> nmatsakis: and if so, what are the links?
  1897. # [17:39] <nmatsakis> bz: sorry, I meant there are entries for these crashes.
  1898. # [17:39] <@bz> ok
  1899. # [17:39] <nmatsakis> bz: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-e63f85fd-5649-4640-98b7-3e6352130329
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  1902. # [17:39] <@bz> hmmm
  1903. # [17:39] <@bz> File, please
  1904. # [17:39] <@bz> That's not such a helpful stack... :(
  1905. # [17:40] <@bz> Are the others like it?
  1906. # [17:40] <nmatsakis> bz: kyes...https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-0cead0d2-35a3-4f6c-81ce-4cc3e2130329
  1907. # [17:40] <nmatsakis> oops.
  1908. # [17:40] <nmatsakis> yes.
  1909. # [17:40] <avih> smaug: the "problem" with your is, however, is that even when the CPU is at full load, the hand-rest area stays quite cold...
  1910. # [17:41] <nmatsakis> bz: of course it's not happening now. perhaps because I didn't restore my session.
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  1914. # [17:44] <@smaug> avih: indeed. I'm compiling FF to heat up the laptop but that doesn't seem to be effective enough
  1915. # [17:44] <avih> smaug: the problem of efficient heat isolation technologies ;)
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  1917. # [17:45] <avih> smaug: you could open the case and use the aluminium as aheatsink ;)
  1918. # [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d1b8ee0e1bd - Andrew Quartey - Bug 827684 - Fix potential memory leak of OmxDecoder if Init fails on Android. r=doublec
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  1939. # [17:55] <jlebar> philor: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856024
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  1941. # [17:55] <jlebar> philor: Does this mean the child process exited with code -20, or the parent process?
  1942. # [17:56] <aceman> hi, what does it mean if ownerDocument of a node is null?
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  1944. # [17:57] <@khuey> aceman: in a recent firefox version? that something is very very broken
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  1946. # [17:57] <vd> BenWa: ping
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  1949. # [17:57] <@gavin> khuey: is't it null for document nodes?
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  1952. # [17:57] <aceman> khuey: I get it in recent thunderbird, but that should be the same
  1953. # [17:57] <@khuey> gavin: mmm, maybe
  1954. # [17:58] <@khuey> gavin: indeed
  1955. # [17:58] <@khuey> aceman: or that you have a document node ;-)
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  1957. # [17:58] <aceman> khuey: ok, the code wants to get defaultView
  1958. # [17:58] <aceman> khuey: and does it directly like this: elem.ownerDocument.defaultView
  1959. # [17:58] <aceman> khuey: so what can I do if it is null?
  1960. # [17:59] <@khuey> well what is elem?
  1961. # [18:00] <aceman> that is the question, it may be several things
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  1963. # [18:00] <aceman> so the code also checks "ownerDocument" in elem
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  1965. # [18:00] <aceman> it is has it, then gets the defaultView
  1966. # [18:00] <@khuey> well if elem is a document node it will have "ownerDocument" in elem
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  1968. # [18:01] <@khuey> but ownerDocument will be null
  1969. # [18:01] <@khuey> because elem is the document node ...
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  1972. # [18:01] <aceman> yes
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  1974. # [18:01] <aceman> so how do I get the defaultView ?
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  1980. # [18:02] <aceman> khuey: maybe elem.defaultView? :)
  1981. # [18:02] <@khuey> in that case yes
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  1983. # [18:03] <philor> jlebar: I presume the child, from the "[Child 438] WARNING: content process _exit()ing" thing, but I mostly just thought it was "out of summary room in all the other bugs"
  1984. # [18:03] <aceman> khuey: thanks, I'll try that
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  1986. # [18:04] <philor> though I see we have filed several as individuals, along with all the combined ones
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  2007. # [18:21] <jcranmer> gerv: ping
  2008. # [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36eca1fb1c5c - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 844816: Remove tests for open in new tab/private tab in Awesomebar. [r=bnicholson]
  2009. # [18:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c710854a413f - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 844816: Remove context menu entries for new tab/private tab in Awesomebar. [r=mfinkle]
  2010. # [18:22] <@bz> Any sheriffs around?
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  2012. # [18:24] <RyanVM> bz: what's up?
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  2017. # [18:26] <philor> RyanVM: ugh, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&jobname=reftest-10 doesn't seem to be headed in the right direction
  2018. # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88ec6ee2d57a - Terrence Cole - Bug 765432 - Make JS_IsAboutToBeFinalized indirect; r=bholley,billm
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  2020. # [18:27] <vd> RyanVM: is 'firefox -unittest' run periodically by some automated tool?
  2021. # [18:28] <gkw> RyanVM / bz: are we considering backing out bug 789897 ?
  2022. # [18:28] <RyanVM> vd: yes, on every push
  2023. # [18:28] <vd> can the results be seen somewhere on the internet?
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  2025. # [18:29] <RyanVM> tbpl.mozilla.org
  2026. # [18:29] <RyanVM> gkw: if someone says go in the bug, we can
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  2028. # [18:30] <gkw> RyanVM: \o/
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  2035. # [18:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a61aa08ab4ac - Gregory Szorc - Bug 837323 - Automatically clobber when CLOBBER is updated; r=ted
  2036. # [18:37] <dougt> RyanVM: ping?
  2037. # [18:37] <RyanVM> dougt: pong
  2038. # [18:37] <dougt> can I uplift to b2g18 if I have something that is tracking-b2g18+
  2039. # [18:38] <RyanVM> no
  2040. # [18:38] <Yoric> gavin: we could do that.
  2041. # [18:38] <RyanVM> a+ or blocking+ only
  2042. # [18:39] <Yoric> gavin: I can do that in ~2h.
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  2052. # [18:43] <froydnj> CLOOOOOOOOOBER FILE!
  2053. # [18:43] <gkw> RyanVM: brendan mentions to back out bug 789897 - eddy is likely having Easter weekend
  2054. # [18:43] <RyanVM> yep, working on it now
  2055. # [18:43] <gkw> (most of Europe are on holiday)
  2056. # [18:43] <cpeterson> it's clobberin' time!
  2057. # [18:44] <gkw> RyanVM: thanks!
  2058. # [18:44] <RyanVM> ugh, doesn't backout cleanly at this point :(
  2059. # [18:44] <froydnj> thanks
  2060. # [18:44] <RyanVM> gkw: wait, this is my fault
  2061. # [18:44] <RyanVM> just a sec
  2062. # [18:45] * gkw fingers crossed
  2063. # [18:45] <RyanVM> gah, still a conflict
  2064. # [18:45] <RyanVM> gonna have to do this the hard way
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  2070. # [18:49] <RyanVM> gkw: ok, one conflict to resolve
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  2074. # [18:50] <@bz> OK
  2075. # [18:51] <@bz> So what are we going to do to stop people updating CLOBBER all the effing time?
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  2077. # [18:51] <gps> bz: switch to Tup
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  2079. # [18:51] <RyanVM> bz: make our build system not suck?
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  2081. # [18:52] <froydnj> stop writing code?
  2082. # [18:52] <RyanVM> ahh, bug 855136 is the source of the conflict
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  2084. # [18:52] <gps> can someone explain xpt files to me real quick?
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  2086. # [18:52] * froydnj wonders if people complain about dom/bindings just because there are a *lot* of files to build there
  2087. # [18:53] <froydnj> gps: binary representation of .idl files
  2088. # [18:53] <@khuey> froydnj: nah dom/bindings sucks
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  2090. # [18:53] <@khuey> after I land my stuff then it'll just be a lot of crap to build
  2091. # [18:54] <gps> froydnj: ok. so I see we install separate .xpt files in dist/bin/components. I also see xpt files can be "linked" together
  2092. # [18:54] <gps> do we really need all those .xpt files or could we link every single .idl into a large .xpt file?
  2093. # [18:54] <gps> is there an impact on run-time perf if we do that?
  2094. # [18:55] <@bz> ryanvm: got a sec?
  2095. # [18:55] <RyanVM> bz: give me a couple minutes, trying to get bug 789897 backed out
  2096. # [18:55] <gps> khuey may also want to join this convo :)
  2097. # [18:55] <froydnj> gps: I *think* one large file is actually preferred
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  2099. # [18:56] <gps> I ask because we can do that with moz.build files now :D
  2100. # [18:56] <@khuey> gps: we ship a single large xpt file ...
  2101. # [18:56] <froydnj> gps: but I don't know if anybody (binary addons?) depends on the separate .xpts
  2102. # [18:56] <@bz> RyanVM: ah, that's what I was pinging about
  2103. # [18:56] <@bz> RyanVM: asking what the plan for backing it out is. ;)
  2104. # [18:56] <gps> the question is "should I"
  2105. # [18:56] <@bz> RyanVM: so carry on!
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  2108. # [18:56] <@khuey> should you ...?
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  2110. # [18:57] <@bz> If you have to ask, you can't afford to.
  2111. # [18:57] * @bz misquotes
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  2113. # [18:57] <RyanVM> bz: I'm hitting conflicts in jsproxy.h due to bug 855136, so this has been non-trivial
  2114. # [18:57] <@bz> RyanVM: Could just back them both out? ;)
  2115. # [18:57] <RyanVM> just tried that, hit other conflicts
  2116. # [18:57] <jlebar> Bucket of karma to Fabrice.
  2117. # [18:57] <@bz> mmm
  2118. # [18:58] <RyanVM> just need to figure out the right bit to leave behind
  2119. # [18:58] <fabrice> jlebar: I may regret it though ;)
  2120. # [18:58] <@bz> well, lemme know if you want a hand
  2121. # [18:58] * @bz wants this thing gone
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  2123. # [18:58] <froydnj> RyanVM: channel philor and just rollback the entire tree
  2124. # [18:58] <RyanVM> heh
  2125. # [18:58] * @bz _did_ consider suggesting that
  2126. # [18:58] <@bz> ryanvm: btw, if we have hard data on how much stuff has to get backed out....
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  2128. # [18:59] <@bz> Ryanvm: I would be pretty interested in that.
  2129. # [18:59] <@bz> Ryanvm: because it sounds like people are just landing untested crap
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  2131. # [18:59] <RyanVM> bz: qbackout leaves the commit messages in a pretty standard format
  2132. # [18:59] <froydnj> 15 min clobber build, disappointing :(
  2133. # [18:59] <bsmedberg> gps: the advantage of linking is that the dist/bin configuration is more like the shipped configuration
  2134. # [18:59] <RyanVM> you could probably grep the commit history pretty easily
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  2136. # [19:00] <RyanVM> bz: but I was also talking to clint yesterday
  2137. # [19:00] <bsmedberg> gps: the disadvantage is that on incremental rebuild you'd have to rebuild it way more often
  2138. # [19:00] <RyanVM> I'm wondering when the last weekday was without at least 2 hr closure in it at some point
  2139. # [19:00] <bsmedberg> but nothing else depends on that file, so it's probably not a big deal
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  2141. # [19:00] <gps> bsmedberg: I guess I'll measure the impact of a monolithic idl.xpt file
  2142. # [19:01] <gps> if it isn't too bad, I'll go that route. else I guess we'll continue to produce different .xpt files
  2143. # [19:01] <bsmedberg> gps: impact on what? We already use one
  2144. # [19:01] <bsmedberg> gps: but only in packaged builds
  2145. # [19:01] <gps> bsmedberg: oh, I see
  2146. # [19:01] * philor is now known as philor|afk
  2147. # [19:01] <gps> why do we have to XPIDL_MODULE optimization in the build system today?
  2148. # [19:01] <gps> if there are multiple idl files in a dir, we link them into 1 xpt
  2149. # [19:02] <bsmedberg> gps: because we can, I suspect
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  2154. # [19:04] <RyanVM> bz: I *think* I've got it
  2155. # [19:04] <ehoogeveen> Does anyone here regularly build with --enable-debug and --enable-jemalloc on Windows?
  2156. # [19:04] <RyanVM> what could possibly go wrong :P
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  2160. # [19:05] <ehoogeveen> Or even irregularly, but recently :P
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  2162. # [19:05] <RyanVM> of course, bug 855136 landing without tests doesn't inspire confidence (<-- billm)
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  2164. # [19:06] <RyanVM> bz: here goes...
  2165. # [19:06] <RyanVM> i'm assuming that !burning means I did it right
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  2168. # [19:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc0b6744aef6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out bug 789897 due to regressions.
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  2170. # [19:07] <RyanVM> bz: fwiw, here's where the conflict was - http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/dc0b6744aef6/js/src/jsproxy.h#l131
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  2172. # [19:07] <RyanVM> bz: I think I managed to preserve what bug 855136 added
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  2175. # [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af6a5d1a3097 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 837035 - Support DataChannels with SDP Negotiation r=jesup
  2176. # [19:09] <RyanVM> bz: oh crap, i see what I was missing
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  2179. # [19:11] <RyanVM> bz: no, I think I got it
  2180. # [19:11] <RyanVM> line 189 is where the issue was, not 131
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  2182. # [19:11] <RyanVM> ugh
  2183. # [19:11] * RyanVM is confusing himself
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  2186. # [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d61461019eba - Oleg Romashin - Bug 855586 - Patch in bug 824642 has wrong logic. r=nical.bugzilla
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  2188. # [19:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eff168eefd8c - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 839788 - Switch Browse button from an <input> to a <button>. r=bz
  2189. # [19:15] <RyanVM> if I go afk for ~15min, is there someone who can back me out if my attempts at conflict resolution failed?
  2190. # [19:16] * @dolske wonders if using asm.js would make for amusing followup to http://news.dartlang.org/2013/03/why-dart2js-produces-faster-javascript.html
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  2192. # [19:16] <RyanVM> Waldo: yay for new tests coming soon! right?
  2193. # [19:16] <janv> firebot: uuid
  2194. # [19:16] <firebot> f4deeef5-32d3-4048-bb56-883330fd8f35 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
  2195. # [19:17] <dougt> RyanVM: ping?
  2196. # [19:17] <RyanVM> dougt: pong
  2197. # [19:17] <froydnj> RyanVM: I can back you out
  2198. # [19:17] <dougt> leo+ means it can land on http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-b2g18/
  2199. # [19:18] <RyanVM> dougt: correct
  2200. # [19:18] <RyanVM> dougt: or you can get approval-b2g18
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  2202. # [19:18] <RyanVM> froydnj: thanks, I'm signing off for a bit, back in 15-20
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  2214. # [19:25] <jcranmer> dolske: the tl;dr is "our compiler optimizes code, so we make it faster"
  2215. # [19:25] <seth> ANDROID or __ANDROID_API__ should be defined if we're building on android, right?
  2216. # [19:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6ab3e11f721 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 837323 - Bustage followup; r=me
  2217. # [19:26] <seth> i'm trying to figure out why my calls to __android_log_print don't seem to be showing up in the logs from my try pushes
  2218. # [19:26] <seth> (I've surrounded them with #if defined(ANDROID) || defined(__ANDROID_API__), that's why I'm asking about those symbols)
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  2223. # [19:30] <qDot> ted: You around? Have some questions about gamepad stuff.
  2224. # [19:32] <gps> qDot: he's on PTO
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  2226. # [19:32] <qDot> Damn.
  2227. # [19:32] <cpeterson> set: __android_log_print() goes to Android's logcat service. I don't know if logcat is piped to the try logs.
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  2229. # [19:33] <cpeterson> seth ^
  2230. # [19:33] <seth> cpeterson: tears =(
  2231. # [19:33] <seth> cpeterson: i'm not sure what to do then for this type of situation
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  2233. # [19:34] <seth> maybe NS_WARNING et al. work?
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  2236. # [19:35] <cpeterson> seth: do you have a link to your try run?
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  2241. # [19:38] <cpeterson> seth: looking at the tail of a log, I believe that logcat messages with Error or Warning severity *are* logged. The ALOG() macro I sent you uses ANDROID_LOG_DEBUG. Try changing to ANDROID_LOG_WARNING.
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  2249. # [19:41] <RyanVM> w00t, so far so good
  2250. # [19:41] <aceman> how can I find what is the object I got? It reports to be a 'instanceof' one of our nsI* classes, but any attribute I try on it is null. .QueryInterface too.
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  2252. # [19:42] <chiiph> hi, can someone point to where I can find the code for the firefox updater?
  2253. # [19:43] <RyanVM> w00t, it's Friday afternoon
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  2255. # [19:43] <RyanVM> which means time for metal and beer!
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  2258. # [19:44] <aceman> RyanVM: can you check in our patches? :)
  2259. # [19:44] <RyanVM> aceman: but of course
  2260. # [19:45] <@bz> aceman: how are you doing the instanceof test?
  2261. # [19:45] <aceman> bz: if (aMsgHdr instanceof Components.interfaces.nsIMsgDBHdr), in JS
  2262. # [19:46] <@bz> aceman: what's aMsgHdr.__proto__.toString(), if I might as?
  2263. # [19:46] <@bz> er, ask
  2264. # [19:46] <@bz> aceman: also, Object.prototype.toString.call(aMsgHdr)
  2265. # [19:47] <aceman> bz: just dump(sMsgHdr) returns "[xpconnect wrapped nsIMsgDBHdr @ 0xa54b8b40 (native @ 0xaf259b20)]"
  2266. # [19:47] <aceman> I'll try your variants
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  2269. # [19:49] <gps> inbound has been open a lot today. it must be since the Canadians are on holiday
  2270. # [19:50] <seth> cpeterson: sorry for slow response. i can probably make that work if needed but that kinda sucks because the messages aren't interleaved with the TEST-STARTs and such. i'm only interested in the results for one particular test
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  2272. # [19:51] <bajaj> anton: ping
  2273. # [19:51] <seth> cpeterson: actually my conclusion was that i just need an android test device; this isn't practical
  2274. # [19:51] <jcranmer> I got r+ before I finished uploading patches...
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  2281. # [19:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0bcf5be5244b - Tanvi Vyas - Bug 855730 - Logging patch to see if I can determine the cause of the failures in bug 840388's mochitests. r=smaug
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  2284. # [19:56] <aceman> bz: your attributes show some differnce
  2285. # [19:56] <RyanVM> tanvi: ping
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  2287. # [19:56] <aceman> bz: normally the object shows [object Object]
  2288. # [19:57] <aceman> bz: but the buggy one shows: [object XPC_WN_NoHelper_Proto_JSClass] and [object XPCWrappedNative_NoHelper]
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  2291. # [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f725a32ba89 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 782641 - Fixed ReferenceError. r=yoric
  2292. # [19:58] <aceman> bz: what is that?
  2293. # [19:59] <@bz> That looks correct
  2294. # [19:59] <@bz> as far as it goes
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  2296. # [19:59] <@bz> for an actual xpconnect wrapped object
  2297. # [19:59] <@bz> the [object Object] part looks wrong to me
  2298. # [20:00] <RyanVM> yuck, hopefully the bustage on the backout is just a needs-clobber :\
  2299. # [20:00] <froydnj> gps: that's some bustage followup!
  2300. # [20:00] <@bz> wait
  2301. # [20:00] <@bz> waiiiit
  2302. # [20:00] <@bz> XPC_WN_NoHelper_Proto_JSClass means it's a prototype object
  2303. # [20:01] <@bz> not an instance object
  2304. # [20:01] <gps> froydnj: I don't know what you're talking about ;)
  2305. # [20:01] <aceman> bz: why does it respond to instanceof ?
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  2316. # [20:08] <@bz> aceman: because that's how js works
  2317. # [20:08] <aceman> bz: ok, the [object Object] is when is it not an instanceof my class
  2318. # [20:08] <@bz> aceman: instanceof is fucked up
  2319. # [20:08] <@bz> aceman: ah, ok
  2320. # [20:08] <@bz> aceman: well, in _that_ case it's because it's just some random object. ;)
  2321. # [20:08] <aceman> bz: however the XPC_WN_NoHelper_Proto_JSClass says it is an instance of it, but still does not have the attributes
  2322. # [20:08] <@bz> aceman: let me check something
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  2326. # [20:09] <RyanVM> gps: that's awesome
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  2328. # [20:09] <@bz> instanceof returning true is od
  2329. # [20:09] <@bz> er, odd
  2330. # [20:10] <@bz> for the XPC_WN_NoHelper_Proto_JSClass case
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  2332. # [20:12] <@khuey> why are all sorts of random things being nominated for relnotes?
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  2336. # [20:14] <RyanVM> boredom?
  2337. # [20:14] <jesup> froydnj: quite impressive a patch from gps, especially as a bustage fix! Maybe this is a test to see if anyone is watching.... ;-)
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  2339. # [20:15] <aceman> RyanVM: thanks
  2340. # [20:15] <RyanVM> aceman: np
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  2347. # [20:17] <philor> okay, one b2g permaorange down, one to go
  2348. # [20:18] <aceman> bz: but this XPC_WN_NoHelper_Proto_JSClass case is shown also for objects that are real instances and work as expected
  2349. # [20:18] <@bz> aceman: weird
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  2351. # [20:18] <@bz> gps: er....
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  2353. # [20:19] <froydnj> jesup: bustage fixes are so trivial...
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  2357. # [20:20] <tanvi> RyanVM: pong
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  2364. # [20:21] <RyanVM> tanvi: nvm, commented in the bug
  2365. # [20:21] <aceman> bz: what can I do next to debug it?
  2366. # [20:22] <@bz> aceman: step into the instanceof call to see what the heck the object really is and why instanceof says true?
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  2369. # [20:22] <aceman> bz: I do not know to do that and the code is a test file
  2370. # [20:22] <@bz> aceman: should be http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/src/XPCJSID.cpp#488
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  2372. # [20:22] <tanvi> RyanVM: sorry marked check-in needed on the wrong bug.
  2373. # [20:22] <romaxa> glandium, ping
  2374. # [20:22] <@bz> aceman: well, so, you can run the test in a debugger, right?
  2375. # [20:22] <romaxa> glandium, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xulrunner/installer/Makefile.in#67
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  2377. # [20:22] <@bz> aceman: and you can modify the test file?
  2378. # [20:23] <romaxa> glandium, should not we remove lxpcom from there?
  2379. # [20:23] <aceman> bz: I can modify
  2380. # [20:23] <@bz> aceman: so in the case when you have the bogus object, run this js:
  2381. # [20:23] <@bz> Math.sin(0, 0, 0); whateverObject instanceof whatever;
  2382. # [20:23] * hwine-food is now known as hwine
  2383. # [20:23] <@bz> and then breakpoint in js::math_sin and run the testcase
  2384. # [20:24] <@bz> when your sin() breakpoint is hit, breakpoint in nsJSIID::HasInstance
  2385. # [20:24] <@bz> and see what's going on
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  2387. # [20:26] <aceman> do I have to breakpoint in the c++ code?
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  2389. # [20:26] <@bz> yes
  2390. # [20:26] <@bz> well "have"
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  2392. # [20:26] <@bz> if you want to understand why the instanceof is testing true
  2393. # [20:26] <@bz> since that's C++ code
  2394. # [20:27] <aceman> I do not have debugger for that
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  2396. # [20:30] <@bz> khuey: ping?
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  2415. # [20:41] <RyanVM> dougt: did you seriously just push a patch with a moz.build in it to b2g18?
  2416. # [20:41] <RyanVM> dougt: i don't expect that'll end well...
  2417. # [20:42] <RyanVM> dougt: also, did you forget to push the follow-up test_interfaces patch that you said in the bug was also needed?
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  2420. # [20:43] <dougt> RyanVM: will the moz.build kill the build?
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  2422. # [20:43] <RyanVM> dougt: presumably not, but I'm assuming it also means that a makefile.in didn't get updated
  2423. # [20:44] <dougt> RyanVM: i can push the test_interface patch, or back out.
  2424. # [20:44] <dougt> if the builds are green, i'd rather just push test_intefaces
  2425. # [20:44] <RyanVM> dougt: not sure what backing out would accomplish at this point besides creating more churn
  2426. # [20:44] <dougt> some people don't like working on a hot tree
  2427. # [20:45] <RyanVM> dougt: I wouldn't call b2g18 a busy tree
  2428. # [20:45] <RyanVM> but seriously, whatever information is contained in the moz.build file is presumably not being used
  2429. # [20:45] <RyanVM> unless it's in the corresponding makefile
  2430. # [20:45] <RyanVM> and if it doesn't break, why was it needed in the first place?
  2431. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7112a6c1efee - James Willcox - Bug 734691 - Add multi-thread support to profiler r=benwa
  2432. # [20:47] <RyanVM> dougt: personally, I'd just rm the unused file to avoid confusion/cluttering and add the test_interfaces patch as a follow-up
  2433. # [20:47] <RyanVM> and call it a day
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  2435. # [20:47] <RyanVM> unused files*
  2436. # [20:47] <dougt> RyanVM: +1
  2437. # [20:47] * philor looks at that leaking crashtest on inbound, and recoils in horror
  2438. # [20:48] <RyanVM> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  2439. # [20:48] <RyanVM> jesup :( :( :(
  2440. # [20:48] <RyanVM> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21254951&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2441. # [20:49] <philor> CLOSED. In mourning.
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  2443. # [20:49] <froydnj> RyanVM: it's baaaaaack
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  2447. # [20:50] <dougt> RyanVM: done.
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  2449. # [20:50] <philor> oh, there's hope, now there's two of them, so it's actual fresh bustage!
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  2452. # [20:51] <@gavin> gregglind: ping?
  2453. # [20:51] <dougt> RyanVM: that looks familiar.
  2454. # [20:51] <dougt> someone isn't killing a thread or something?
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  2457. # [20:52] <RyanVM> dougt: thanks
  2458. # [20:52] <RyanVM> dougt: it's only the leak from hell that was only killed yesterday
  2459. # [20:54] <RyanVM> philor: lol, yeah, that totally looks like gps bustage :D
  2460. # [20:55] <RyanVM> philor: but I'm happy to blame mounir for it!
  2461. # [20:55] <RyanVM> actually, I'm going to go with ekr
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  2463. # [20:56] <ekr> oh, what did I do?
  2464. # [20:56] <ekr> Not denying it....
  2465. # [20:57] <RyanVM> sorry, not you
  2466. # [20:57] <RyanVM> ehugg
  2467. # [20:57] <jesup> The other possibility is ehugg
  2468. # [20:57] <RyanVM> got my webrtc e's mixed up
  2469. # [20:57] <RyanVM> jesup: just backed ehugg out
  2470. # [20:58] <RyanVM> making a very educated guess
  2471. # [20:58] <ekr> I was going to say: I haven't landed any code in like 2 days, so I must be pretty powerful
  2472. # [20:58] <RyanVM> well, that and the green win debug crashtests on the push prior to his
  2473. # [20:58] * NeilAway wonders what refresh rate Remote Desktop exposes to the remote app ;-)
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  2476. # [21:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cbbb788632a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset af6a5d1a3097 (bug 837035) for reanimating the most annoying leak of recent memory on a CLOSED TREE. r=YUNOLETITDIE?
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  2478. # [21:01] * RyanVM needs a beer
  2479. # [21:03] <jhammel> RyanVM: Congratulations! That in fact is the prize for the best checkin message of the day!
  2480. # [21:03] <froydnj> RyanVM: vote that you put r=YUNORESPECTMYTREE? on all future backouts
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  2482. # [21:03] <ekr> RyanVM: if you were in MTV I would buy you a beer
  2483. # [21:03] <RyanVM> :)
  2484. # [21:03] <ekr> but as it is, you'll have to head down to the beer distributor
  2485. # [21:04] <ekr> and get a yeungling
  2486. # [21:04] <ekr> actually, if I recall PA correctly, a case of yeungling
  2487. # [21:04] <jhammel> if RyanVM was on MTV i'd know his musical taste
  2488. # [21:04] <RyanVM> yech, Yuengling is...ok
  2489. # [21:05] <RyanVM> ekr: but yeah, just down the road from jesup actually :)
  2490. # [21:05] <jesup> Ekr: if you want good PA beer, get Victory (it's actually available there in MV area)
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  2492. # [21:06] <ekr> jesup, ryanvm: where I grew up, we considered Rolling Rock good PA beer
  2493. # [21:06] <ekr> bad PA beer would be iron city
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  2495. # [21:06] <jesup> RyanVM and I (and jib and mreavy) will be drinking that next week - at Victory itself
  2496. # [21:06] <RyanVM> Lion's Head :)
  2497. # [21:06] <jesup> ekr: no, that's horrible PA beer
  2498. # [21:07] <ekr> how about Golden Anniversary
  2499. # [21:07] <jesup> Victory is actually really good.
  2500. # [21:07] <ekr> http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/302/4942/
  2501. # [21:07] <RyanVM> dougt: b2g18 red
  2502. # [21:08] <mreavy> ekr: remind me to never ask you to buy beer for any parties i host. ;-)
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  2504. # [21:08] <ekr> Well, that's what I drank when I was in college and poor
  2505. # [21:08] <RyanVM> jesup: Headwaters currently sitting next to me
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  2507. # [21:09] <ekr> currently, my house has, lesse… Anchor, Leffe, Einstok, two kinds of Red Hook, 21st amendment, and Alaska Amber
  2508. # [21:10] <dougt> RyanVM: looking
  2509. # [21:10] <mreavy> ekr: i should totally ship you some Victory. it's awesome (in the best sense of the world).
  2510. # [21:10] <jesup> ekr: Nothing from Genesee could ever be good. At RPI in upstate NY, we used to refer to it as Genesee pisswater. Especially on my hall, which called themselves "the Molsons", which was (at the time) the higher-class beer (and there weren't many options but that and Genesee and Bud/etc)
  2511. # [21:10] <ekr> Oh, and about 10 kinds of single malt :)
  2512. # [21:10] <RyanVM> ekr: noms
  2513. # [21:11] <dougt> RyanVM: packaging
  2514. # [21:12] <dougt> RyanVM: tell me about the moz.build file?
  2515. # [21:12] <dougt> what does that prevent if that file exists?
  2516. # [21:12] <gps> dougt: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/How_Mozilla%27s_build_system_works#moz.build_Files
  2517. # [21:12] <dougt> looking for clift notes.
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  2519. # [21:13] <dougt> wondering if my moz.build files caused dom/push not to be built on b2g.
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  2521. # [21:13] <dougt> kind of looks that way
  2522. # [21:13] <gps> b2g18 doesn't have moz.build files
  2523. # [21:13] <dougt> gps: read up
  2524. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc53af70fd58 - Luis de Bethencourt - Bug 855712 - Remove trailing whitespaces in image/src/*cpp. r=jmuizelaar
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  2526. # [21:14] <Waldo> philor|away, RyanVM: if a fuzzer reports bustage that doesn't show up on tbpl, please do just back it out -- really no point in saying "but green so technically..."
  2527. # [21:14] <dougt> gps: basically i erroneously checked in moz.build files into b2g18. I removed them.
  2528. # [21:14] <RyanVM> Waldo: err, and we're supposed to be magically aware of that how?
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  2530. # [21:15] <dougt> gps: and I am wondering what these files would have caused.
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  2532. # [21:15] <dougt> gps: it looks like my component wasn't built
  2533. # [21:15] <gps> they won't break the build. but, if the metadata in moz.build files was supposed to be in a Makefile.in, that would be bad
  2534. # [21:15] <dougt> (and that is why packaging failed)
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  2536. # [21:15] <dougt> nsm: ping?
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  2539. # [21:18] <aceman> bz: it seems I have found the problem
  2540. # [21:18] <@bz> aceman: oh?
  2541. # [21:19] <luisbg> RyanVM, ping
  2542. # [21:19] <RyanVM> luisbg: pong
  2543. # [21:19] <luisbg> RyanVM, thanks for looking at the bug
  2544. # [21:19] <Waldo> RyanVM: gkw was saying that someone was reporting this on IRC last night; obviously if nobody tells you there's nothing you should be doing :-)
  2545. # [21:19] <RyanVM> luisbg: np
  2546. # [21:19] <luisbg> I'm not sure what you mean with "setting checkin-needed at the top"
  2547. # [21:19] <RyanVM> Waldo: can't speak for philor, but I can definitely say that my availability on IRC in the evenings is sporadic
  2548. # [21:20] <aceman> bz: the C++ method returning an object of the class in question had codepath to sometimes return a dummy object of the class. But the dummy is implemented in JS and it really was missing the attributes I was calling.
  2549. # [21:20] <RyanVM> luisbg: there's a keywords field near the top of the bug
  2550. # [21:20] <Waldo> RyanVM: just saying, if you're around and someone complains, feel free to back out with prejudice :-)
  2551. # [21:20] <RyanVM> luisbg: you can put checkin-needed there instead of putting checkin? on the patch
  2552. # [21:20] <Waldo> and if you have time, of course
  2553. # [21:20] <RyanVM> rnewman: same bustage as last time on Aurora...
  2554. # [21:20] <Waldo> RyanVM: maybe it was only philor|away who was hesitant on the point last night, I'm only speaking from secondhand knowledge
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  2556. # [21:21] <luisbg> RyanVM, oooh I see it now. Didn't notice that before
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  2558. # [21:21] <RyanVM> Waldo: OK, point taken
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  2560. # [21:21] <luisbg> RyanVM, thanks :)
  2561. # [21:21] <@khuey> bz: pong
  2562. # [21:22] <rnewman> RyanVM: goddamnit
  2563. # [21:22] <rnewman> RyanVM: different failure
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  2565. # [21:22] <@bz> khuey: You're dealing with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854836 , right?
  2566. # [21:22] <RyanVM> luisbg: np, thanks for the patch!
  2567. # [21:22] <rnewman> RyanVM: give me a minute; I'll back out if I can't see the problem
  2568. # [21:22] <@khuey> bz: yes
  2569. # [21:23] <luisbg> RyanVM, more coming soon :) no problem, it is great fun
  2570. # [21:23] <RyanVM> rnewman: sounds god
  2571. # [21:23] <rnewman> I wouldn't go that far ;)
  2572. # [21:23] <@bz> khuey: lovely
  2573. # [21:23] * @bz closes tab
  2574. # [21:23] <rnewman> RyanVM: ah, it is a different failure!
  2575. # [21:24] <sfink> gavin: ping
  2576. # [21:24] <@gavin> sfink: pong
  2577. # [21:24] <sfink> gavin: to punish you for being knowledgeable about browser chrome tests yesterday, I have another question
  2578. # [21:24] <@bz> god damn it
  2579. # [21:24] * @bz hates bugzilla's datalossy idiocy
  2580. # [21:24] <sfink> what gets read out of tests.jar, and what comes from the filesystem?
  2581. # [21:25] <@gavin> I don't know what tests.jar is!
  2582. # [21:25] <sfink> I want to whittle down the set of tests necessary to trigger an intermittent orange
  2583. # [21:25] <sfink> oh. On an actual test slave, there's a tests.jar file that tests seem to be read out of
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  2585. # [21:25] <@gavin> oh, that sounds like something related to running packaged tests
  2586. # [21:25] <sfink> yes
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  2588. # [21:25] <sfink> I had a fun time deleting a noisy intermittent, and seeing it continue to fail on the deleted test
  2589. # [21:25] <@gavin> I'm not sure how those works. I assume the tests are run out of tests.jar only if you're running a packaged version.
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  2591. # [21:26] <@gavin> (which would typically never be the case locally)
  2592. # [21:26] <sfink> how does it decide to run a packaged version?
  2593. # [21:26] <@gavin> locally, if you run into that problem you need to remove the file from objdir/_tests/testing/browser/*
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  2595. # [21:26] <@gavin> are you on windows?
  2596. # [21:26] <sfink> linux
  2597. # [21:27] <gregglind> gavin: pong: yes, I am giving up on tp1
  2598. # [21:27] <@gavin> "deleting a noisy intermittent", do you mean you removed the file?
  2599. # [21:27] <@gavin> or just removed it from the makefile?
  2600. # [21:27] <rnewman> RyanVM: one-line fix; landing now
  2601. # [21:27] <sfink> removed the file
  2602. # [21:27] <@gavin> gregglind: so shall we file a bug to remove it from the tree?
  2603. # [21:27] <RyanVM> rnewman: woowoo
  2604. # [21:27] <@gavin> sfink: that's weird. I thought we symlinked things into objdir/_tests/testing/browser/ on Linux
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  2606. # [21:28] <@gavin> but maybe they're copied?
  2607. # [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3fccc05f7b5 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 855796 - vcmOnSdpParseError should be dispatched to main thread r=abr
  2608. # [21:28] <gregglind> gavin, I was going to file one to strip the tree back, then re-land tp2 in the same dir. I have a working RC
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  2610. # [21:28] <sfink> gavin: I think we do. This is probably an unpacked test package or something.
  2611. # [21:28] <@gavin> gregglind: cool, sounds good!
  2612. # [21:28] <@gavin> sfink: how are you running the tests?
  2613. # [21:28] <@gavin> are you on a real slave?
  2614. # [21:28] <NeilAway> avih: whoa, ZX spectrum, that takes me back ;-) wasn't there a flight simulator that included the border in the artificial horizon?
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  2616. # [21:29] <sfink> gavin: yes, a real slave. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2257596
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  2618. # [21:29] <@gavin> ah, well that explains it.
  2619. # [21:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb60b02f6281 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 834270 - Fix PeerConnection error callbacks to return code/reason phrase r=ekr,jsmith
  2620. # [21:30] <@gavin> sfink: so I guess in your scenario, the answer is probably "everything is read from tests.jar"
  2621. # [21:30] <sfink> gavin: if I unpacked tests.jar and deleted it, should it behave the same?
  2622. # [21:31] <sfink> I still don't really understand why the slave filesystem contains both tests.jar and a full unpacked copy, in an almost identical directory structure
  2623. # [21:31] <@gavin> sfink: I know very little about how that stuff works
  2624. # [21:31] <rnewman> thanks for the catch, RyanVM; I hadn't switched back to my Aurora tab yet
  2625. # [21:31] <sfink> gavin: who could I pester about it?
  2626. # [21:31] <RyanVM> rnewman: you know I'm always watching ;)
  2627. # [21:32] <rnewman> quite alarmed that these tests are not failing on trunk, when they clearly should
  2628. # [21:32] <@gavin> sfink: jmaher, perhaps
  2629. # [21:32] <sfink> jmaher: ping
  2630. # [21:32] <avih> NeilAway: there were few border bending apps, though the most noteable one is of course the rom cassette loader itself ;)
  2631. # [21:32] <jmaher> sfink: pong
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  2633. # [21:33] <sfink> jmaher: so I am on an actual slave, trying to track down an intermittent that takes approximately 48 hours to reproduce on average
  2634. # [21:33] <jmaher> wow, you are patient
  2635. # [21:33] <avih> NeilAway: though i can't say i recall a sim which used the border to extend the horizon. doesn't sound unthinkable though :)
  2636. # [21:33] <sfink> the slave filesystem when I got to it contained both a tests.jar and a full directory full of what looks more or less like the unpacked contents of that tests.jar
  2637. # [21:33] <sfink> from empirical observation, it seems like everything is getting read from tests.jar
  2638. # [21:33] <jmaher> ok, if you delete tests.jar, it will work just fine and use the tests on the filesystem
  2639. # [21:34] <sfink> jmaher: ok, I did that, and some tests started failing with 404s
  2640. # [21:34] <jmaher> sfink: hmm, that doesn't sound right- maybe those are some corner cases
  2641. # [21:35] <sfink> jmaher: I could move away the filesystem stuff and try again on an unpacked tests.jar, maybe
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  2643. # [21:35] <sfink> but should that filesystem stuff have been autocreated by unpacking the tests.jar? Where did the fs stuff come from?
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  2645. # [21:36] <jmaher> sfink: I would be surprised if there would be a difference, but you could try that
  2646. # [21:36] <sfink> jmaher: also, the tests.jar contains a bunch of stuff starting with content/browser/browser. The filesystem is more like /home/cltbld/talos-slave/test/build/tests/mochitest/browser/browser
  2647. # [21:36] <sfink> how should I unpack that jar?
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  2649. # [21:37] <jmaher> sfink: the tests in the chrome/ folder are packaged up normally, I created the tests.jar for mobile testing back in the day and we don't use it anymore
  2650. # [21:37] <@gavin> sfink: are you building on this slave too?
  2651. # [21:37] <sfink> gavin: no
  2652. # [21:37] <NeilAway> avih: well, the cassette loader was just a bonus from controlling the border and tape signal from the same I/O port ;-)
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  2654. # [21:37] <sfink> jmaher: er, wait, if tests.jar isn't being used, where are the tests coming from?
  2655. # [21:37] <sfink> jmaher: as in, I deleted a test from the filesystem and reran, and it kept failing in that test
  2656. # [21:38] <NeilAway> avih: I also seem to remember that there was a game that used vsync to swap two smallish areas of the screen to achieve multiple colours
  2657. # [21:38] <jmaher> sfink: it is being used for all desktop tests, but we don't need to have it as tests.jar anymore- I spoke incorrectly
  2658. # [21:38] <sfink> gavin: I'm using a build and tests downloaded from a mozilla-inbound push
  2659. # [21:38] <avih> NeilAway: was it? i don't recall that it was. but then again, i was a small kid at the time experimenting with stuff which i mostly didn't understand good enough at the time ;)
  2660. # [21:39] <avih> NeilAway: aye, more than two colors per 8x8 was used here and there indeed :)
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  2663. # [21:39] <avih> NeilAway: you recall the agentX 5 channels audio track from a 1 bit speaker? :p
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  2667. # [21:40] <sfink> jmaher: but if tests.jar is there it's used preferentially?
  2668. # [21:40] <jmaher> sfink: yes
  2669. # [21:40] <avih> NeilAway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOZ8rbmlWrk ahh.. the glory ;)
  2670. # [21:40] <jmaher> sfink: I know it works fine on linux if we remove tests.jar, I did that a lot while testing changes to the linux tests on ubuntu
  2671. # [21:41] <NeilAway> avih: no, I only played Iridium which could do two tones (I never figured out how to do octaves myself)
  2672. # [21:41] <jmaher> sfink: it could be something platform specific
  2673. # [21:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae83ff003e82 - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 855965 - Symbolic range analysis transfers range analysis bounds to phis. r=mjrosenb
  2674. # [21:41] <sfink> jmaher: hm, this is linux64. And tests started failing with 404s when I simply deleted tests.jar.
  2675. # [21:41] <avih> NeilAway: iridium was good. though r-type for the speccy was a reclly commendable effort as well :)
  2676. # [21:41] <jmaher> sfink: ubuntu or fedora?
  2677. # [21:41] <sfink> jmaher: fedora
  2678. # [21:42] <sfink> specifically, I'm on talos-r3-fed64-003
  2679. # [21:42] <jmaher> sfink: there shouldn't be a difference, I tested on ubuntu
  2680. # [21:42] <jmaher> sfink: are all tests 404, or just some?
  2681. # [21:42] <sfink> just some
  2682. # [21:42] <sfink> and I think it might have been on files the tests required, not the main test files themselves
  2683. # [21:42] <sfink> lemme see if I can dig up a log
  2684. # [21:42] <NeilAway> avih: port 0xFE bits 0-2 border, bit 3 Mic, bit 4 Ear
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  2687. # [21:43] <jmaher> sfink: cool, send it to me
  2688. # [21:43] <avih> NeilAway: ah :)
  2689. # [21:43] <sfink> I guess I can fall back on unpacking tests.jar, modifying, then repacking
  2690. # [21:43] <jmaher> sfink: that will work as well, but clunky
  2691. # [21:44] <avih> NeilAway: i also vaguely remember some pokes. 236559? was it, that blacks the screen after any operation? was used as a tamper protection on some games :)
  2692. # [21:44] <NeilAway> avih: sorry, I mean Uridium
  2693. # [21:44] <avih> NeilAway: yeah, that's the one. very good scrolling, but iirc it was nibbles scrolling
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  2697. # [21:46] <avih> i still think r-type was one of the best side shooters
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  2700. # [21:48] <avih> the colors remind of the later spanish games. they used huge colorful sprites, mostly in 8x8 blocks ranges :)
  2701. # [21:49] <NeilAway> avih: speaking of nibbles, I wrote a device driver that fitted 42 6-pixel characters into each line instead of the normal 32
  2702. # [21:49] <avih> NeilAway: cool! :)
  2703. # [21:49] <avih> yeah, 32 chars/line was painful :)
  2704. # [21:50] <avih> iirc there was stuff which used nibble chars to double. maybe one of the assemblers/monitors?
  2705. # [21:50] <avih> NeilAway: but i could sure used 42 chars/line for basic :)
  2706. # [21:51] <NeilAway> avih: yeah, you could develop with the driver loaded :-)
  2707. # [21:51] <avih> sounds pretty cool indeed :)
  2708. # [21:51] <terrence> I can't push to try because of: remote: abort: Operation not permitted: /repo/hg/mozilla/try/.hg/journal.bookmarks
  2709. # [21:51] <terrence> is anyone else seeing this?
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  2711. # [21:52] <NeilAway> avih: I only remember having pokes for some of the older games like Atic Atac and Jet Set Willy
  2712. # [21:52] <avih> NeilAway: i wrote a 1/3 screen scroller for some pirate cable company. i think that was my first payed job :)
  2713. # [21:53] <avih> NeilAway: and also had to develop a hebrew font for it ;)
  2714. # [21:53] <sfink> terrence: I just tried a dummy push. Worked for me.
  2715. # [21:53] * spohl is now known as spohl|away
  2716. # [21:53] <terrence> sfink: thanks! will tinker more locally
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  2718. # [21:53] <NeilAway> avih: also while I don't know how to get 5 channel sound, I did manage to sample the first 8 seconds of "I should be so lucky" before I ran out of RAM ;-)
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  2720. # [21:54] <avih> NeilAway: you had this device which allowed to break into games, then search memory, set pokes, etc? what was the name of it? it also alowed saving a mem snapshot
  2721. # [21:54] <avih> NeilAway: lol
  2722. # [21:54] <NeilAway> avih: oh, I know the one you mean, but I didn't have one myself
  2723. # [21:55] <avih> NeilAway: that was a useful thing. i wrote something to search for cheats. mostly just look for LD A, <num lives>, or the same for HL, then change that to FF ;)
  2724. # [21:55] <avih> man, i forgot these registers ever existed :)
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  2726. # [21:56] <NeilAway> avih: not done any x86 asm then I take it?
  2727. # [21:56] <avih> not a lot of it. just when c wasn't fast enough, or for mmx stuff etc
  2728. # [21:56] <avih> does x86 have HL?
  2729. # [21:57] <NeilAway> avih: well, where do you think ah & al came from ;-)
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  2731. # [21:57] <avih> hmm :)
  2732. # [21:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03452b187c14 - Kyle Machulis - Bug 855465 - Add emacs python mode comments to moz.build files; r=gps
  2733. # [21:57] <qDot> "added 1 changesets with 1441 changes to 1441 files" You're welcome, people not running ccache who wanted to go get coffee
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  2735. # [21:59] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: if you mean x64 debug jemalloc, then yes, it doesn't work, I always patch it locally
  2736. # [21:59] <avih> NeilAway: it's been quite a while since i wrote x86 asm. last time was probably some post processing filtering stuff for xvid. probably like 10 years ago ;)
  2737. # [21:59] <NeilAway> avih: yeah, I don't think I've written any 386 asm
  2738. # [22:00] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: no, just the x86 version - I get a linker error about malloc_usable_size
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  2740. # [22:01] <sheppy> Anyone know which is the current name for this API? Pointer Lock or Mouse Lock?
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  2742. # [22:01] <sheppy> I have a recent doc calling it "Mouse Lock" but another that says it's been renamed.
  2743. # [22:01] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: I'm trying to build DMD which implies jemalloc - I've tried replacing the malloc_usable_size call with _msize - that gets it to compile but trying to make a DMD dump crashes the browser
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  2747. # [22:02] <sheppy> Looks like it's Pointer Lock now. OK.
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  2749. # [22:03] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: hmm, I don't think I've tried building DMD on Windows, but debug & jemalloc x86 should work
  2750. # [22:03] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: given that we do that on tbpl ;-)
  2751. # [22:04] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: I'm wondering if I'm missing a dependency - like a version of sqlite3 that includes a malloc_usable_size export
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  2753. # [22:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec0843fee0cd - Olli Pettay - Bug 856167 - DeviceAcceleration and DeviceRotationRate have wrong classinfo, r=bz
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  2755. # [22:05] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: assuming it's meant to be linked in externally in the first place, of course
  2756. # [22:05] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: hmm, I think dmd uses replace malloc, which is glandium's area, if I remember correctly
  2757. # [22:06] <fabrice> jmaher: ping
  2758. # [22:07] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: I wouldn't be surprised if it does specifically need malloc_usable_size from jemalloc.. but I get the same error regardless of whether I pass --enable-jemalloc or --enable-dmd
  2759. # [22:08] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: well, maybe I'll find some spare time to spin up an --enable-dmd build
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  2761. # [22:08] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: Great, thanks :) ehsan originally got DMD working on Windows, but I haven't seen him around
  2762. # [22:10] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: (and since the issue seems to come from debug + jemalloc I figured I could ask njn too, but I haven't seen him around either)
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  2767. # [22:15] <mgoodwin> is m-c not working well on OS X today or is it just me? it runs but there's no icon in the doc and keyboard / mouse input doesn't work
  2768. # [22:15] <dholbert> Does anyone know what's up with http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[275,131,31]] and http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[83,131,31]] ? They've been spiking up and down between two values several orders of magnitude apart, for as far back as we have data, AFAICT
  2769. # [22:17] <derf> mgoodwin: How are you starting it?
  2770. # [22:17] <dholbert> (in one graph, we've been jumping between 300 and 3000; in the other, we're jumping between 600 and 20,000)
  2771. # [22:17] <RyanVM> jesup; https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21258192&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1#error0
  2772. # [22:18] <mgoodwin> /obj-ff-dbg/dist/bin/firefox -P MyProfile
  2773. # [22:18] <mgoodwin> ^^ derf
  2774. # [22:18] <derf> mgoodwin: Yeah, that doesn't actually work.
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  2777. # [22:18] <mgoodwin> derf: ah, I'm on mac aren't I
  2778. # [22:18] <mgoodwin> :P
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  2781. # [22:19] * mgoodwin usually works on Linux
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  2784. # [22:19] <derf> Yeah, you need to run obj-ff-dbg/dist/Nightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox
  2785. # [22:19] <mgoodwin> derf: :D thanks
  2786. # [22:19] <jesup> RyanVM: I suggest opening a new bug on that; I don't see any reason to believe the proximate cause is the same. First one in days, too, with no suppression of assertions. Assign it to me
  2787. # [22:19] <derf> I recognized the symptoms because I have often had the same problem :).
  2788. # [22:20] <RyanVM> will do
  2789. # [22:20] <mgoodwin> I knew that, really.
  2790. # [22:20] <mgoodwin> finger memory
  2791. # [22:20] <derf> You'd think, like, someone could just drop a script there which did the right thing.
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  2810. # [22:30] <RyanVM> rnewman: I doubt you'll have anyone fighting with you over space on aurora tonight, so i'm happy to turn a blind eye if you want to keep fighting with that test for awhile
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  2815. # [22:33] <rnewman> RyanVM|Dinner: it's whack-a-mole at this point
  2816. # [22:33] <rnewman> different test each time!
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  2818. # [22:34] <rnewman> but I think I'm going to whack two moles this time
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  2820. # [22:35] <@dolske> dual-wield
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  2822. # [22:35] <Optimizer> sao
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  2831. # [22:39] <RyanVM|Dinner> rnewman: you just keep on whackin' it
  2832. # [22:39] <Jesse> what do i need to install to make tinderbox builds run on win7? i get a dialog saying i'm missing msvcr100d.dll. installing http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8328 didn't help
  2833. # [22:39] <RyanVM|Dinner> that came out wrong
  2834. # [22:39] <RyanVM|Dinner> do I need to issue an official apology?
  2835. # [22:39] <Jesse> i hope it wasn't a mistake to install MSVC11 instead of MSVC10
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  2837. # [22:40] <sfink> RyanVM|Dinner: 3 months of sensitivity training
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  2839. # [22:41] <RyanVM|Dinner> sfink: nooooooo
  2840. # [22:41] <rnewman> RyanVM|Dinner: :D
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  2843. # [22:42] <rnewman> I'm now *so confident* in having found all of the failures, I'm going to go walk the dog. with my tablet.
  2844. # [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa15e3c18ecf - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 855133. (r=mjrosenb)
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  2856. # [22:47] <Jesse> ted: maybe you can help me with my problem above?
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  2859. # [22:50] <tbsaunde> Jesse: I would guess you need msvc10 since that's what we do official builds with
  2860. # [22:51] <Jesse> i'll try a thing i found on moco's fs
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  2863. # [22:53] <sfink> Jesse: I think ted's on PTO
  2864. # [22:53] <@khuey> indeed
  2865. # [22:53] <@khuey> even if he weren't he'd be gone by this hour
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  2870. # [22:55] <sfink> in ted's absence, does anyone know what I'd need to do to add stacks to crashes in my custom JS shell builds?
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  2873. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53e9a37cebab - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 851666 - Update the emulator to try and get rid of an intermittent orange, r=aki
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  2875. # [22:57] <Jesse> gkw might have an answer for sfink
  2876. # [22:58] <gkw> sfink: --enable-profiling ?
  2877. # [22:58] <gkw> (for opt builds) and also please keep your source files around
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  2879. # [22:58] <gkw> Jesse: i'd advice MSVC 2010, since they are what the official builds are based off
  2880. # [22:59] <sfink> gkw: really? Some other magic just does everything needed?
  2881. # [22:59] <sfink> gkw: and do I need to do anything special to point to my source files?
  2882. # [22:59] <gkw> Jesse: (2) possibly related - but i had to use Professional instead of the Express edition for 64-bit builds in Windows
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  2884. # [23:00] <gkw> sfink: i usually just copy the source files out, compile with desired configuration params, get the shell, copy the binary out to another directory with another name, gdb it and the stacks will be present
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  2887. # [23:00] <gkw> sfink: provided the source files are around and unchanged, including absolute path names
  2888. # [23:00] <sfink> gkw: no, I want a crash to automatically generate stacks in the log
  2889. # [23:01] <sfink> gkw: aiui, for the browser breakpad catches the signal and generates a minidump
  2890. # [23:01] <gkw> sfink: you mean generate a coredump automatically in the shell?
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  2892. # [23:01] <gkw> s/in the/ from the
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  2894. # [23:01] <sfink> gkw: er, I guess. I just my tbpl logs from 'make check' crashes to have stacks in them
  2895. # [23:02] <sfink> *just want
  2896. # [23:02] <gkw> sfink: oh, that seems to be XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK? or is that browser only...
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  2898. # [23:02] <sfink> definitely not in the shell
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  2902. # [23:03] <sfink> well, the JS shell. It's probably in xpcshell.
  2903. # [23:04] <gkw> sfink: hmm, let me think - it's probably something to do with ulimit locally, but i think i might have something lying around...
  2904. # [23:04] <gkw> sec
  2905. # [23:04] <RyanVM|Dinner> qDot: ping
  2906. # [23:05] <sfink> gkw: so you think if it generated a core dump, then something would automatically generate a stack from it?
  2907. # [23:05] <sfink> if so, then yeah, maybe it's just a matter of ulimit -c
  2908. # [23:05] <qDot> RyanVM|Dinner: Yo
  2909. # [23:05] <gkw> sfink: if it generates a coredump, you can pass in `gdb ./js <coredump name>`, type bt (scriptable) and get that stack
  2910. # [23:05] <RyanVM|Dinner> qDot: Shall I back you out or do you want the honors?
  2911. # [23:05] <gkw> sfink: in python, the code is: `import resource; resource.setrlimit(resource.RLIMIT_CORE, (500000000, -1))`
  2912. # [23:06] <sfink> oh, I'd have to provide the magic. Well, that's doable
  2913. # [23:06] <gkw> sfink: that enables the process to create dumps
  2914. # [23:06] <sfink> yes, it's probably just ulimit -c 50000000 in the shell
  2915. # [23:06] <qDot> RyanVM|Dinner: :(
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  2917. # [23:06] <sfink> bash shell, I mean. Too many shells around here.
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  2919. # [23:06] <qDot> I'll take care of it.
  2920. # [23:07] <gkw> sfink: yep. bear in mind - different users running that command will result in different results. i.e. setting it for root might/might not enable it for a user
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  2922. # [23:07] <sfink> gkw: that's ok, I'd have to put this in my buildbot script (spidermonkey.sh), so it should be fine
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  2924. # [23:08] <RyanVM|Dinner> snorp: looks like you've got win8 xpcshell hangs
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  2926. # [23:08] <gkw> sfink: \o/
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  2928. # [23:09] <RyanVM|Dinner> snorp: I'm also seeing a mutex leak that has me suspicious
  2929. # [23:10] <qDot> D'oh, tree got closed.
  2930. # [23:10] * qDot changes commit message, tries again.
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  2932. # [23:11] <adw> RyanVM|Dinner: i'm getting xpcshell test hangs locally (os x 10.7 debug) with this seemingly related assertion: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2257813
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  2934. # [23:12] <qDot> Ok, backout pushed.
  2935. # [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0db3022ca2e6 - Kyle Machulis - Backout for changeset 03452b187c14 (Bug 855465) due to bustage on a CLOSED TREE; r=qdot
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  2941. # [23:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a619c7ea5e75 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 7112a6c1efee (bug 734691) for Win8 xpcshell hangs and possible leaks on a CLOSED TREE.
  2942. # [23:18] <RyanVM|Dinner> leaving the tree closed for now until things are clear
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  2952. # [23:23] <jlebar> Uh. Where is nullptr defined?
  2953. # [23:23] <RyanVM|Dinner> mfbt?
  2954. # [23:23] <@khuey> in the compiler?
  2955. # [23:23] <jlebar> khuey: apparently not in the compiler.
  2956. # [23:23] <qDot> Are you on a non-C++11 compiler?
  2957. # [23:23] <@khuey> or in mfbt/NullPtr.h
  2958. # [23:23] <@dolske> x11.h?
  2959. # [23:23] <@khuey> if your compiler is non-awesome
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  2961. # [23:24] <qDot> I thought we had a filler value for nullptr.
  2962. # [23:24] <jlebar> khuey++
  2963. # [23:24] <jlebar> Thanks!
  2964. # [23:25] <Luqman> dolske: obviously we need to build X11 as part of the build proccess
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  2968. # [23:29] <Jesse> brendan: https://brendaneich.com/2013/03/the-web-is-the-game-platform/ embeds a non-SSL youtube iframe, which we're about to disallow in firefox nightly
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  2970. # [23:31] <@dolske> Jesse: welcome to bug 843977.
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  2991. # [23:40] <anton> what's the ssl urls for our release trees? seems like i can't push to http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/ (which is specified in .hg/hgrc)
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  3001. # [23:42] <@dolske> anton: you need to push with ssh.
  3002. # [23:42] <sfink> anton: use ssh -- ssh://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/
  3003. # [23:42] <Waldo> anton: s/http/ssh/ should work; you could also s/http/https/; this all assumes your ~/.ssh/config has "Host hg.mozilla.org / User your@email.address" in it (/ being a linebreak)
  3004. # [23:43] <anton> thanks all!
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  3007. # [23:43] <sfink> every answer you get is slightly more complete
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  3009. # [23:43] <anton> now i'm off to push this patch followed by a panic attack
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  3011. # [23:44] <sfink> if you plan to do more pushes, you can put the SSH url as your 'default-push' in [paths] in .hg/hgrc
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  3013. # [23:44] <@dolske> anton: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mercurial_FAQ#How_do_I_check_stuff_in.3F :)
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  3016. # [23:45] <anton> bookmarked
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  3018. # [23:45] <tanvi> gavin - when is the last time you did a pull?
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