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1. # Session Start: Tue Apr 02 00:00:01 2013
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8. # [00:02] <@roc> ehsan: argh, why is it Analyser instead of Analyzer?
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12. # [00:05] <@ehsan> roc: believe me, that is the smallest problem with the spec ;)
13. # [00:05] <@roc> should be fixed anyway
14. # [00:06] <@ehsan> roc: renaming things is going to be tricky... since webkit will indefinitely support old names
15. # [00:06] <@ehsan> and those names are what everybody would use
16. # [00:07] <@ehsan> cause those are the only names working on iOS
17. # [00:07] <@ehsan> and people of course don't know better :(
18. # [00:07] <@ehsan> roc: in fact we're going to undeprecate the existing renames
19. # [00:07] <@roc> really?
20. # [00:07] <@roc> why?
21. # [00:07] <@ehsan> yes
22. # [00:07] <@ehsan> because there is no other path way to phasing them out
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24. # [00:08] <@roc> isn't it a matter of waiting for iOS to ship an updated Webkit?
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26. # [00:08] <@ehsan> not exactly, since then there's the issue of webkit not wanting to break any existing content
27. # [00:09] <@ehsan> in fact, they won't stop supporting the old names even when they unprefix AudioContext
28. # [00:10] <@ehsan> so as a web author, if you're just targeting existing implementations and then a new one comes along, it will be broken everywhere
29. # [00:10] <@ehsan> because it doesn't support the old names
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33. # [00:11] <@roc> ok
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38. # [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3391233b3e31 - Randell Jesup - Bug 856644: Make signaling_unittests understand the changes in datachannel negotiation r=ekr
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41. # [00:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/544c73301d31 - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove old-style unwrapping from QuickStubs. r=mrbkap
42. # [00:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64771564b5bc - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove SCRIPT_ACCESS_ONLY. r=mrbkap
43. # [00:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83ae75a544fb - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove old-style unwrapping from XPCWrappedJSClass. r=mrbkap
44. # [00:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6653dadb7f8 - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove old-style unwrapping infrastructure. r=mrbkap
45. # [00:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/623c8b11f31f - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove old-style unwrapping from dom/bindings bindings. r=bz
46. # [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8a91b194ba6 - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove old-style unwrapping from nsDOMClassInfo. r=mrbkap
47. # [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18257899ab4b - Bobby Holley - Bug 854480 - Remove old-style unwrapping from GetNativeOfWrapper. r=mrbkap
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52. # [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37d1f749d072 - Terrence Cole - Bug 854051 - Remove HashTable::clearWithoutCallingDestructors; r=billm
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60. # [00:24] <njn> is inbound totally hosed? I can't compile it locally with clang or GCC
61. # [00:25] * NeilAway adds mozcrash to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/commonissues in case anyone still reads is
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66. # [00:29] <njn> nsIFile.create() fails if the file already exists. How can I force overwriting of an existing file?
67. # [00:30] <njn> I could check for existence and delete, but surely there's an easier way
68. # [00:30] <@gavin> just check for FILE_ALREADY_EXISTS?
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70. # [00:30] <@gavin> why do you need to "overwrite"?
71. # [00:31] <njn> gavin: I'm saving memory reports in about:memory; the user chooses the filename
72. # [00:31] <@gavin> ah, well create() doesn't write to the file
73. # [00:31] <@gavin> so if you get FILE_ALREADY_EXISTS from create(), just continue to write to it
74. # [00:32] <@gavin> though actually, you shouldn't need create() at all right?
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77. # [00:33] <njn> gavin: oh, so if I just start writing that'll overwrite what's there?
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79. # [00:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a791e64589fb - Sean Stangl - Bug 854124 - Update RegExpStatics on empty match in str_replace_regexp_remove(). r=dvander
80. # [00:34] <@gavin> njn: depends on what API you're using, most allow specifying overwrite
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82. # [00:34] <njn> gavin: ok, I'll try that. Thanks
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84. # [00:35] <njn> ehsan: you're burning
85. # [00:36] <@ehsan> ah
86. # [00:36] <@ehsan> huh
87. # [00:36] <@ehsan> wtf?
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92. # [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d03af4bf5681 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 81bad314826a (bug 855990) because of build bustage
93. # [00:40] <njn> it's probably time to close the tree
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95. # [00:40] <njn> who knows how to do that? philor, obviously...
96. # [00:41] <@gavin> https://treestatus.mozilla.org/
97. # [00:42] * philor closes inbound, "Bustage," then wonders which tree and why
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99. # [00:42] <njn> philor: thanks
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102. # [00:43] <philor> ah, nice, saves on slave capacity to burn half a dozen this time of day :)
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114. # [00:51] <njn> philor: true; an all-red build is the fastest build
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117. # [00:52] <philor> that's nice, but the real win is that they trigger no tests
118. # [00:53] <philor> and not-run test is best test
119. # [00:53] <sfink> fastest, not best!
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130. # [00:56] * philor looks at incomprehensible and still not filed robocheck failures below the burning
131. # [00:56] <philor> best test
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134. # [00:57] <philor> oh, look, test_browserElement_oops
135. # [00:57] <philor> best test
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137. # [00:58] <philor> and I even still have the search for those bugs still in the search box from last Friday
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139. # [00:58] <sfink> life through philor-colored glasses
140. # [00:59] <nsm> how do i kick off a conversation with legal if a third party lib i used requires signing a CLA to upstream some patches? This lib doesn't ship in any product but I used it for testing.
141. # [01:00] <@gavin> file a legal bug
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143. # [01:00] <@gavin> nsm: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/form.legal
144. # [01:01] <nsm> gavin: thanks!
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150. # [01:06] * philor spies, with his little orange eye, that b2g mochitests are back
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152. # [01:08] <philor> best tests do not report that they timed out after 330 seconds with no output in one flavor of log, while in another claiming that they timed out after 349 seconds, and then called finish() twice, followed by many more tests running
153. # [01:09] <mconnor> philor: picky picky
154. # [01:09] <jsantell> is there any observer notification for when a page is stored in the bfcache?
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157. # [01:13] <@gavin> jsantell: pagehide?
158. # [01:13] <@gavin> jsantell: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_Firefox_1.5_caching
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160. # [01:13] <@gavin> 1.5, man
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163. # [01:15] <@gavin> jsantell: (with event.persisted=true)
164. # [01:15] <tanvi> firebot: seen smaug
165. # [01:15] <firebot> smaug was last seen 1 hour, 36 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying 'first write a .h in one way and then later write it again with more information ' in #content.
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167. # [01:15] <@gavin> oh, but you asked for an observer notification
168. # [01:15] <@gavin> I don't think there's a global mechanism like that
169. # [01:16] <jsantell> gavin: that's called when a page is unloaded though -- so like, i load up pageA, after the `load` event is fired, i load up pageB and go back to pageA, it should load from cache
170. # [01:16] <jsantell> gavin: if I load pageB immediately after PageA's load event, the page may not yet be cached
171. # [01:17] <khuey> tanvi: it's a bit late for him
172. # [01:17] <khuey> today was a holiday there too
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176. # [01:20] <@gavin> jsantell: I don't understand what you mean, or what you're trying to do
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178. # [01:22] <jsantell> writing a test for a pageshow event in addon-sdk -- seems like the page isn't cached by the time the load event fires, and currently waiting X milliseconds before going to the next page (to ultimately go 'back' and load from cache)
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180. # [01:22] <jsantell> just was wondering if there was some notification we could hook into instead :) does that make sense?
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186. # [01:24] <njn> \nick njn
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195. # [01:31] <tanvi> khuey - yeah it is late for him. will wait until tomorrow
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243. # [02:15] <philor> no, really, there is no review hook
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246. # [02:17] <@gavin> philor: there isn't? or is that sarcasm about someone working around it?
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248. # [02:17] <sfink> there really really isn't
249. # [02:18] <sfink> but I still see it as an outlet for stifled creativity, so I don't care
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251. # [02:18] <@gavin> I expect that adw was actually doing it out of habit rather than to circumvent a theoretical hook
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253. # [02:19] <sfink> I also like it as documentation for why somebody felt justified to commit code without review
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255. # [02:19] <sfink> especially since I don't think I've always agreed with their assessment
256. # [02:19] <@gavin> yeah
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259. # [02:20] <jgilbert> sfink: not a fan of 'r=TryIsSlow'?
260. # [02:20] <sfink> heh :-)
261. # [02:21] <derf> I didn't think try reviewed patches.
262. # [02:21] <qDot> If try was sentient, I can only imagine it'd be very, very angry.
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267. # [02:23] <RyanVM|Dinner> i do love the philor hour
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272. # [02:25] <philor> it gets say "better" around 11pm, you miss the "best" of it
273. # [02:25] <philor> way
274. # [02:25] <philor> not sure if my typing ability gets better then
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278. # [02:30] <sfink> philor: at the risk of (aka opportunity for) pissing you off, tell me what you really think of bug 855591 so I can decide whether to drop it or not. Preferably that specific bug, not the other ways that people might choose to limit tests on try.
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280. # [02:32] <philor> sfink: if I only have two choices, "people will push -p oneplatform -u all" or "people will push that way" I would prefer that way
281. # [02:32] <sfink> it's *almost* an answer
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283. # [02:33] <sfink> and good enough, I suppose
284. # [02:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/633e6b75af95 - Wes Johnston - Bug 820022 - Add null check for layerView. r=margaret
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288. # [02:35] <sfink> philor: any single-platforms I should not show in the UI? (presumably because too much is disabled on them or something)
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290. # [02:35] <jcranmer> oh, now that's a hacky idea
291. # [02:35] <jcranmer> listen for shutdown by registering a service with the observer service
292. # [02:35] <jcranmer> and doing stuff in the destrutor
293. # [02:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88ff175d85fe - Andrew Quartey - Bug 742537 - Remove HTMLMediaElement.initialTime attribute. r=cpearce,doublec
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296. # [02:37] <jcranmer> [if no one else holds a reference to it]
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301. # [02:40] <TimAbraldes> jcranmer: you could probably accomplish the same thing by doing stuff in the destructor of a static variable
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305. # [02:40] <sfink> ugh, then you'd have *no* idea about the state of the world
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308. # [02:41] <TimAbraldes> I guess I should have prefaced that with "this isn't a serious suggestion, but..."
309. # [02:41] <philor> sfink: well, certainly not b2g or android; among the desktop platforms, "Windows" is three platforms with one build, "OS X" is three platforms with one build, so if you want to seriously save test slave resources you would probably want to only offer linux32 and linux64
310. # [02:42] <TimAbraldes> jcranmer: if you're going to register an observer anyway, isn't there a message you can observe for "we're shutting down now"?
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313. # [02:42] <njn> sfink: linux64 usually is the least loaded, IME
314. # [02:42] <sfink> philor: actually, I was thinking that you'd give the option of each individual osx platform
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316. # [02:43] <sfink> philor: since that's what I first used the feature for
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319. # [02:43] <sfink> njn: now that the load is displayed in the UI, I figured people could figure that part out for themselves
320. # [02:44] <njn> sfink: DON'T MAKE ME FIND THE SMALLEST NUMBER IN A SET
321. # [02:44] <sfink> njn: I can add another red flashing throbber to highlight it for you :)
322. # [02:44] <sfink> well, green this time, I guess
323. # [02:45] <njn> sfink: no need, I'm just being silly
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326. # [02:46] <jcranmer> TimAbraldes: no
327. # [02:46] <jcranmer> static variables destruct at thewrong time
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329. # [02:47] <jcranmer> TimAbraldes: specifically, I'm trying to shutdown just after the normal shutting down observation
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332. # [02:49] <sfink> come to think of it, since it knows the least loaded platform, it could have a "least loaded" button that filled it in for you. It may change between the time you cut & paste, but that's ok...
333. # [02:50] <sfink> hm, I wonder if it knows the least loaded of the platforms with multiple test platforms per build platform
334. # [02:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a1e54662a84 - Luke Wagner - Bug 854396 - OdinMonkey: make 'unsigned' not be a subtype of 'extern' (r=sstangl)
335. # [02:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4688fb9f12d - Luke Wagner - Bug 854564 - Fix SPS crash when running asm.js (r=sstangl)
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337. # [02:50] <TimAbraldes> jcranmer: perhaps add an observable message for "after normal shutdown observation"?
338. # [02:51] <jcranmer> TimAbraldes: I'm basically replicating mozilla/Services.h
339. # [02:51] <jcranmer> so I want when mozilla/Services.h is shutdown
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341. # [02:52] <TimAbraldes> I know nothing about services.h, so I should probably stop making suggestions :)
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345. # [02:54] <khuey> damn
346. # [02:54] <khuey> bz wasn't kidding about these iid changes
347. # [02:55] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: why are you dupplicating it?
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350. # [02:55] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: for comm-central
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352. # [02:56] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: oh, for comm specific services? I thought comm could already uses Services.h
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355. # [02:57] <jcranmer> yeah
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357. # [02:58] * tbsaunde notes he isn't terribly fond of Services.h though its certainly better than do_GetService()
358. # [02:58] <khuey> totally uninformed speculation, but seems like with a bit of preprocessor stuff you ought to be able to extend this list from comm-central
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360. # [02:58] <khuey> #ifdef APP_HAS_MOAR_SERVICES
361. # [02:58] <khuey> #include "AppSpecificServices.h"
362. # [02:58] <khuey> etc
363. # [02:59] <jcranmer> actually, it's slightly more complicated
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365. # [02:59] <jcranmer> Services.cpp needs to include everything as well
366. # [02:59] <tbsaunde> or if you are evil you could define your own ServiceList.h that includes the xpcom and get it included first
367. # [02:59] <jcranmer> although we might be able to reinterpret_cast<> our way to success there in theory
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371. # [03:00] <khuey> bz: you weren't kidding about the iid changes :-(
372. # [03:00] <@bz> khuey: I know
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374. # [03:00] <@bz> khuey: I really wish that patch had been two changesets, one for the iid mass-change and another for the substantive part
375. # [03:01] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: #include "AppSecificServiceHeaders.h" ;-)
376. # [03:01] <@bz> khuey: and also, I vote we remove all those interfaces ASAP. ;)
377. # [03:01] <@bz> khuey: or at least never ever change the XPCOM version. ;)
378. # [03:01] <khuey> we should be able to noscript a bunch, yes?
379. # [03:01] <khuey> that would be a start
380. # [03:02] <@bz> well, that doesn't affect IID change
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382. # [03:02] <@bz> but yes, we can in fact noscript a bunch
383. # [03:02] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: I'll add the c-c-specific Services.h and let people bicker about moving it into xpcom build
384. # [03:02] <@bz> also dzbarsky has nuked all the SVG ones already, afaik
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386. # [03:02] <@bz> except nsIDOMSVGElement, I think
387. # [03:02] <jcranmer> looks like it
388. # [03:03] <tbsaunde> bz: I some other xpidl crap in dom/interfaces/svg/ ?
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391. # [03:03] <@bz> tbsaunde: there's some
392. # [03:03] <@bz> tbsaunde: but none of that is implemented on nodes
393. # [03:03] <jcranmer> bz: comm-central uses a few of the nsIDOMHTML ones from C++
394. # [03:03] <jcranmer> ImageElement mostly, IIRC
395. # [03:03] <@bz> jcranmer: yeah
396. # [03:03] <tbsaunde> bz: oh, did you have to change all the xpidl Element interfaces because of nsIDOMNode changing? :(
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398. # [03:03] <@bz> jcranmer: so does editor
399. # [03:04] <@bz> jcranmer: nixing those will take some work
400. # [03:04] <@bz> tbsaunde: yep
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402. # [03:04] <@bz> tbsaunde: well, I didn't
403. # [03:04] <@bz> tbsaunde: aryeh did
404. # [03:04] <jcranmer> I really want to rewrite that code in JS
405. # [03:04] <@bz> tbsaunde: And also, we have a script for it
406. # [03:04] <jcranmer> but that'll take time
407. # [03:04] <tbsaunde> we sort of need a saneish story for extensions and stuff too
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409. # [03:04] <@bz> jcranmer: we can make it possible to make it work even from C++, and even without the nsIDOM*
410. # [03:05] <@bz> right
411. # [03:05] <@bz> So the binary extension story is the other part of it, as tbsaunde says
412. # [03:05] <@bz> What we _need_ is an actual C++ "embedding API"
413. # [03:05] <jcranmer> bz: that would require making simpler C++ glue for the webidl stuff, wouldn't it?
414. # [03:05] <@bz> or something
415. # [03:05] <tbsaunde> bz: we have a script for changing Element interface iids? I didn't know that
416. # [03:05] <@bz> jcranmer: hmm?
417. # [03:05] <@bz> jcranmer: C++ glue for WebIDL stuff is simple: it's just C++
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420. # [03:05] <jcranmer> bz: I mean C++ calling WebIDL
421. # [03:05] <@bz> tbsaunde: we have a script for changing all IIDs of all interfaces inheriting from a given interface
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423. # [03:06] <@bz> jcranmer: I'm not sure what you mean.
424. # [03:06] <jcranmer> I'm not sure what I mean
425. # [03:06] <@bz> jcranmer: There isn't really a problem with C++ calling WebIDL
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427. # [03:06] <@bz> jcranmer: The only problem is that if you're outside libxul and the relevant webidl method is non-virtual and not inline, you lose
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429. # [03:06] <jcranmer> Thunderbird likes to pretend it's outside libxul sometimes
430. # [03:07] <tbsaunde> and not MOZ_EXPORT or whatever
431. # [03:07] <@bz> jcranmer: which is why a C++ API that exposes all the webidl bits to C++ consumers that are not in lubxul in a consistent way might be good
432. # [03:07] <@bz> tbsaunde: and that
433. # [03:07] <jcranmer> bz: that is what I'm asking, I guess
434. # [03:07] <@bz> but in the case of tbird, we can just make whatever API you need exposed
435. # [03:07] <khuey> thunderbird should just get over trying to pretend it works with external linkage
436. # [03:07] <khuey> and accept its fate
437. # [03:07] <jcranmer> (arguably, all of our DOM manipulation should just be from JS, but that's not a near-term reality)
438. # [03:07] <khuey> and live inside fatxul for the rest of its days
439. # [03:08] <@bz> so
440. # [03:08] <@bz> that doesn't solve the binary extensions problem
441. # [03:08] <@bz> (I know, we could claim the solution for those is "go suck an egg"
442. # [03:08] <jcranmer> this is one of the things tht binary extensions actually needs to use, isn't it?
443. # [03:09] <tbsaunde> having some sort of binary API is probably a good thing, though certainly not the existing one
444. # [03:09] <khuey> I was going to use more colorful language
445. # [03:09] <khuey> but "go suck an egg" captures the gist pretty well
446. # [03:10] <jcranmer> and if you have a lisp, you can make it sound like what you originally meant
447. # [03:10] <tbsaunde> khuey: btw are or were static builds?
448. # [03:10] <khuey> tbsaunde: are or were what?
449. # [03:10] <tbsaunde> khuey: in the context of rules.mk:477
450. # [03:11] <@bz> khuey: btw, how bad is you review queue?
451. # [03:11] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I'd be curious why you want to rewrite stuff in js
452. # [03:11] <@bz> khuey: if I'm doing some codegen changes, should I try to get mccr8 to review, or you?
453. # [03:11] <khuey> tbsaunde: I know what static builds are, but you accidentally a word and now the sentence makes no sense
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455. # [03:12] <khuey> bz: there's always room for you ;-)
456. # [03:12] <khuey> bz: that said there's a couple days of reviewing in front of you
457. # [03:12] <tbsaunde> khuey: oh yeah! start the sentence with "what"
458. # [03:12] <khuey> bz: so mccr8 may be quicker
459. # [03:12] <khuey> tbsaunde: aha
460. # [03:12] <khuey> tbsaunde: that's when you link libxul into the .exe
461. # [03:12] <khuey> tbsaunde: and just have one giant binary
462. # [03:13] <tbsaunde> oic
463. # [03:13] <khuey> tbsaunde: tbird did that at one point, iirc
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465. # [03:13] <tbsaunde> khuey: the reason to not do that is readahead I guess?
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467. # [03:14] <@bz> khuey: ok, I'll do that
468. # [03:14] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: because it's saner for comm-central to use JS instead of C++
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470. # [03:15] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: fair enough
471. # [03:15] <khuey> tbsaunde: among other reasons, yes
472. # [03:16] <tbsaunde> khuey: what other reasons? it seems like in theory statically linking more would be an advantage?
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524. # [03:55] <derf> khuey: What's the bug # on that NSPR monitor owner stuff?
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551. # [04:15] <@roc> hmm, I thought the merge was happening tomorrow
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553. # [04:15] <tbsaunde> man I really happy we have a push hook for try: on inbound
554. # [04:16] <jcranmer> roc: they've happened on mondays for a while now
555. # [04:16] <derf> roc: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar says today, like normal for the past 6 cycles.
556. # [04:16] <@roc> I thought 2 April was PDT
557. # [04:16] <@roc> ah
558. # [04:16] <derf> But the merge is scheduled for 1 April.
559. # [04:16] <@roc> someone set the topic rwrong
560. # [04:17] <derf> Oh, indeed.
561. # [04:17] * roc changes topic to 'Next merge 13 May (PDT) || Try was reset at about 5:30pm PT Mar 21, if you pushed before that and still need your results, push again || Want to help? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
562. # [04:17] <@roc> oh well
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564. # [04:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46e9d41acdeb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 855990 - Part 1: Implement the DOM bindings to AnalyserNode; r=bzbarsky
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566. # [04:19] <philor> seth: Android would like a word with you
567. # [04:19] <seth> philor: =(
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571. # [04:24] <seth> sigh. i can't get the reftest analyzer to load on those failures
572. # [04:24] <derf> khuey: Bug 844784?
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579. # [04:28] <philor> seth: nothing to see, it's a != check so they both looked like the single URL in the log
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584. # [04:29] <seth> philor: oh, doh! it's because that platform doesn't have scrollbars
585. # [04:29] <seth> don't bother backing out
586. # [04:29] <seth> that's just a bad test
587. # [04:29] <seth> i'll push a fix to disable it on android
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589. # [04:31] <philor> k
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599. # [04:36] <khuey> derf: heh, yeeah
600. # [04:36] <khuey> derf: I noticed that code sometime after our discussion
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602. # [04:37] <derf> Do you know if there's a bug filed on the thred->id race?
603. # [04:37] <khuey> no I don't know
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624. # [04:50] <bent> derf, which race?
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626. # [04:52] <@ehsan> is there anybody here who's on Windows?
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628. # [04:52] <bent> ehsan, i am
629. # [04:52] <derf> bent: The one commented on in nsprpub/pr/src/pthreads/ptthread.c:_pt_root()
630. # [04:54] <@ehsan> bent: great, can you please see if msvc can compile this? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2266536
631. # [04:54] <bent> derf, that's in your review queue i think :
632. # [04:54] <bent> :)
633. # [04:54] <bent> bug 848305
634. # [04:54] <bent> er
635. # [04:54] <bent> bug 847764
636. # [04:54] <bent> sorry
637. # [04:54] <derf> bent: Exactly why I'm asking.
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639. # [04:55] <derf> Though bug 847764 is about ignoring the race. I don't believe the comments about it being "safe".
640. # [04:55] <bent> derf, oh, you're asking why the race exists? i thought you were asking if there was a bug to silence the warning
641. # [04:55] <bent> i see
642. # [04:56] <derf> bent: Anyway, since you're here...
643. # [04:56] <derf> ...can you explain why ANNOTATE_HAPPENS_BEFORE_FORGET_ALL(cvar) is needed?
644. # [04:57] <bent> ehsan, it compiles, warns about unused variables but that's it
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646. # [04:57] <@ehsan> bent: great! thanks
647. # [04:57] <@ehsan> bent: oh, which version of msvc do you use?
648. # [04:58] <bent> ehsan, vs2012 (which is msvc17 i think)
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650. # [04:58] <@ehsan> hmm, I wonder if msvc2010 can compile this...
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652. # [04:58] <@ehsan> I guess the try server can tell me
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654. # [04:58] <@ehsan> in a few days ;)
655. # [04:59] <ehoogeveen> ehsan: I can try it if you'd like
656. # [04:59] <ewong> ehsan: I have 2012
657. # [04:59] <ewong> ehsan noo.. sorry . .2010
658. # [04:59] <bent> derf, hm, i'd ask jseward
659. # [04:59] <@ehsan> ehoogeveen: do you have msvc10?
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661. # [04:59] <derf> bent: Yes, I already pinged him.
662. # [04:59] <ehoogeveen> Yeah
663. # [04:59] <bent> derf, that one is a little beyond me
664. # [04:59] <derf> But I imagine he's not awake yet.
665. # [04:59] <@ehsan> ehoogeveen: ewong: if one of you guys can try it, I'd be in your debt :)
666. # [05:00] <ewong> ehsan no worries about the debt.. what do you want me to try?
667. # [05:00] <@ehsan> ewong: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2266536
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670. # [05:01] <ehoogeveen> ehsan: it compiles, no errors
671. # [05:01] <@ehsan> \o/
672. # [05:01] <@ehsan> thanks so much!
673. # [05:01] <@ehsan> seems like msvc has finally become a modern C++ compiler
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676. # [05:02] <@roc> fat chance
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678. # [05:03] <ewong> ehoogeveen: pardon my ignorance.. how did you compile that?
679. # [05:03] <ehoogeveen> ewong: just made an empty Win32 console project and added a main() function
680. # [05:03] <ewong> oh
681. # [05:04] <ehoogeveen> also put the code from f() in main for good measure
682. # [05:06] <ewong> ehsan: I concur with ehoogeveen's findings.. :) (sorry for being slow)
683. # [05:06] <ewong> though I do have warnings..
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685. # [05:06] <ewong> I've never used the actual MSVC 2010 ide..
686. # [05:06] <ehoogeveen> Some unused variable warnings are all I get
687. # [05:06] <@ehsan> ewong: thanks a lot!
688. # [05:07] <@ehsan> I don't care about the warnings
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691. # [05:07] <@ehsan> just wanted to make sure that <cmath> really contains what it should
692. # [05:07] <@ehsan> git@github.com:ehsan/webaudio-tests.git
693. # [05:07] <@ehsan> bah
694. # [05:07] <@ehsan> not a shell, my son, not a shell
695. # [05:10] <@bz> hmm?
696. # [05:10] <@bz> we require new-enough compilers now?
697. # [05:12] <derf> Well, supposedly we still support 2008, but since we don't use it on the builders, in practice I don't think we do.
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699. # [05:14] <ehoogeveen> fwiw I was also going to test 2008, but it turns out I don't have it installed anymore
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701. # [05:15] <@bz> mmm
702. # [05:15] <@bz> Does that mean we can use decltype() ? ;)
703. # [05:15] <jcranmer> decltype is a 2012-ism I tohught
704. # [05:16] <bent> now that 2012 supports windowsxp can we switch?
705. # [05:16] <@bz> ah
706. # [05:16] <ehoogeveen> decltype works on 2010, though I think it's slightly non-standard
707. # [05:16] * bent lusts for "auto"
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709. # [05:16] <jcranmer> no, decltype works on 2010
710. # [05:16] <@bz> I could make do with auto as well
711. # [05:16] <jcranmer> although it's an older N* whatever
712. # [05:16] <@bz> would mean I don't need decltype
713. # [05:17] * @bz is glad our build system is not the only fucked-up one
714. # [05:17] <ehoogeveen> Looks like auto is supported all the way back to 2003, to some degree
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716. # [05:18] <ehoogeveen> Wait, I think it means something different though
717. # [05:18] <@bz> well
718. # [05:18] <@bz> we'd need it on non-Windows too. ;)
719. # [05:18] <ehoogeveen> Okay yeah, it has the C++ meaning from MSVC 2010, before that it was a MSVC specific thing
720. # [05:18] <jcranmer> decltype in MSVC2010 is missing a semi-obscure edge case
721. # [05:19] <jcranmer> basically something along the lines of when templates get instantiated
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723. # [05:19] <jcranmer> the failure case apparently causes infinite recursion in MSVC2010
724. # [05:21] <jcranmer> bz: the real problem is we don't always compile in C++11 mode on gcc/clang
725. # [05:21] <jcranmer> although I think all blocking issues for that are finally fixed
726. # [05:21] <@bz> anyone here built v8 shell recently
727. # [05:21] <@bz> ?
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755. # [05:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ed978214fdb - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 850587. Test. r=jsmith
756. # [05:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd6b604d1706 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 851445. When saving a frame scroll position, if we're in the process of trying to scroll to a saved scroll position, save the desired position instead of the
757. # [05:50] <firebot> actual current position. r=mats
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840. # [07:14] <@roc> anyone know what happened here? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3338662dbb91
841. # [07:18] * philor knows what happened to your inbound push, and it isn't good
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843. # [07:19] <@roc> hum
844. # [07:19] <ewong> it's those m-1's right?
845. # [07:19] <@roc> I'll back out dd6b604d1706
846. # [07:20] <philor> try? you pushed... beta without changing the android branding, so it tries to start up org.mozilla.fennec when you built, um, org.mozilla.fennec-beta or some such; Ubuntu, none of the code changes to make tests work on the Ubuntu VMs landed on that branch, only on the next one up
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848. # [07:21] <philor> or is that b2g18, with the same explanation but it makes more sense for those other csets
849. # [07:21] <@roc> I pushed b2g18
850. # [07:21] <@roc> ok
851. # [07:21] <@roc> thanks
852. # [07:21] <@roc> I bet Win8 is in the same boat as ubuntu
853. # [07:22] <philor> yep
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855. # [07:23] <philor> android you can solve, but the right solution is to not build it; ubuntu and win8 you can't solve other than by gathering up all the "fixes" (which are mostly "don't try to run this" and "fuzz this more")
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858. # [07:27] <@roc> I'll just land I think
859. # [07:27] <@roc> a bit later
860. # [07:27] <philor> I would, yeah
861. # [07:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45dc77d9bb09 - Robert O'Callahan - Backout bug 851445 for test failure
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864. # [07:30] <vd> What does "DONTBUILD as NPOTB" mean in a commit message?
865. # [07:31] <KWierso|Home> don't trigger builds because it's not part of the build
866. # [07:31] <KWierso|Home> vd: ^
867. # [07:31] <vd> KWierso|Home: thanks
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928. # [08:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/198a12d4affe - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 856366 - Fix intermittent browser_privatebrowsing_zoomrestore.js failure, part 2. r=test
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943. # [08:40] <glazou> bonjour
944. # [08:40] <dougt> is anyone else seeing:
945. # [08:40] <dougt> Error: Platform version '23.0a1' is not compatible with
946. # [08:40] <dougt> minVersion >= 22.0a1
947. # [08:40] <dougt> maxVersion <= 22.0a1
948. # [08:41] <dougt> NightlyDebug on mac
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956. # [08:49] <reuben> dougt: WFM. I think I've seen that before when I pulled a version bump and did an incremental build
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958. # [08:50] <dougt> yeah, i'll clobber tonight
959. # [08:50] <dougt> i just removed that check in nsAppRunner.cpp
960. # [08:50] <dougt> have editor… will hack shit together for cash.
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962. # [08:50] <Callek> dougt: huh what check was this?
963. # [08:51] <dougt> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2266917
964. # [08:51] <dougt> Callek ^
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966. # [08:52] <Callek> dougt: ahh yes, because GRE_VERSION is passed in as a command-line define, and the build system doesn't notice when the DEFINES change
967. # [08:53] <Callek> so yea, clobber, I thought your statement meant the build forced a hardcoded ver string somewhere
968. # [08:53] <Callek> s/GRE_VERSION/GRE_MILESTONE/
969. # [08:53] <Callek> dougt: the interesting part is, just by touching that file you shouldn't hit that error ;-)
970. # [08:53] <Callek> (if I'm reading code right)
971. # [08:54] <dougt> that is probably true.
972. # [08:54] <dougt> but now it will never bother me.
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983. # [09:02] <glazou> yo dougt
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995. # [09:14] <@smaug> I don't understand why http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2267008 gives /home/smaug/mozilla/hg/mozilla/ff_build/dom/bindings/GamepadEventBinding.h:67:27: error: field ‘mGamepad’ has incomplete type
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999. # [09:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/094e358f4caf - Jonathan Kew - bug 854441 - prefer downscaling a larger icon rather than upscaling a smaller one, if exact size is not available. r=seth
1000. # [09:16] <@smaug> oh
1001. # [09:16] <@smaug> oh oh
1002. # [09:16] <dougt> line 22?
1003. # [09:16] <@smaug> it is not nsIDOMGamepad but nsRefPtr
1004. # [09:16] <@smaug> which is missing
1005. # [09:17] <dougt> hey glazou !
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1007. # [09:17] <dougt> smaug: that is awesome.
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1010. # [09:17] <dougt> i am kind of surprised that nothing included that file already.
1011. # [09:18] <@smaug> indeed
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1021. # [09:23] <@smaug> glazou: crash id or stack?
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1027. # [09:27] <Ms2ger> dougt, it happens regularly
1028. # [09:28] <glazou> smaug: not yet, I am hitting it in BlueGriffon
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1031. # [09:29] <Callek> glazou: you don't do crash reporting in BlueGriffon?
1032. # [09:29] * Callek thought you did
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1035. # [09:32] <glazou> no
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1037. # [09:33] <glazou> this is one of the very first crashers in bluegriffon...
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1047. # [09:37] <NeilAway> ehsan: cmath appears to work on VC2008 too
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1051. # [09:39] <mjrosenb> hey, is there anyone awake that can review a very simple IM change? (it is based off of a change that has been r+'ed
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1053. # [09:41] <@dolske> does it rickroll anyone?
1054. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> If so, r=gps
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1105. # [10:32] <jfkthame> so what's up with inbound windows tests this morning?
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1108. # [10:34] <Ms2ger> edmorley, ^
1109. # [10:35] <edmorley> jfkthame: I've been trying to figure that out, not sure yet
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1111. # [10:36] <edmorley> clobber-needed, releng machine rollout gone bad, networking issues with badly behaved tests are the usual candidates
1112. # [10:37] <jfkthame> it looks like the browser just crashes immediately on startup, at least in some cases
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1114. # [10:37] <ewong> edmorley: ping
1115. # [10:37] <edmorley> ewong: hi
1116. # [10:37] <ewong> edmorley: hi.. just a quick question.. does treestatus.mozilla.org have something like what tbpl has in terms of getting it setup locally via vagrant?
1117. # [10:38] <edmorley> ewong: there is a way to test it locally I believe, but I've never done so myself - catlee will be able to help
1118. # [10:39] <edmorley> oh README does have some instructions
1119. # [10:40] <ewong> oh stupid me..
1120. # [10:41] <jfkthame> ...but in other cases the browser apparently runs, but fails tests all over the place, and then eventually crashes
1121. # [10:41] <ewong> oh wait.. I did read that... edmorley I don't see a setup.py anywhere
1122. # [10:41] <ewong> edmorley: I'll ask catlee
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1125. # [10:43] <Yoric> !seen mak
1126. # [10:43] <firebot> mak was last seen 7 days, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying 'I'm here for some hours yet' in #fx-team.
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1144. # [10:58] <@roc> hmm
1145. # [10:58] <@roc> what have I done!
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1154. # [11:09] <@roc> oh I guess it wasn't me
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1160. # [11:13] * edmorley changes topic to 'Next uplift 13th May || Want to help? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
1161. # [11:14] <Ms2ger> roc, ... for once ;)
1162. # [11:15] <darkowlzz> has |DeferredTask.jsm| been changed to just |Task.jsm|?
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1164. # [11:15] <Yoric> darkowlzz: No, that's unrelated.
1165. # [11:16] <darkowlzz> OS.File imports |Task.jsm| and I don't find it's docs
1166. # [11:16] <darkowlzz> *can't
1167. # [11:17] <Yoric> Ah, I'm not sure it's fully documented anywhere except in its source code.
1168. # [11:17] <Yoric> The in-source documentation is good, though.
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1175. # [11:21] <darkowlzz> hey Yoric, what about this test https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6e5790e9907c
1176. # [11:22] <Yoric> darkowlzz: What's the question?
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1178. # [11:22] <darkowlzz> it's safe right?
1179. # [11:22] <Yoric> It is.
1180. # [11:23] <Yoric> For some reason I can't remember, the xpcshell tests ("X") would not run. I had to relaunch them manually.
1181. # [11:23] <darkowlzz> so |Checkin-needed| can be added in Keywords field
1182. # [11:23] <Yoric> But that was not related to the code in the patch.
1183. # [11:23] <Yoric> darkowlzz: Done :)
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1185. # [11:24] <darkowlzz> oh! thanks x 2 :)
1186. # [11:25] <darkowlzz> and what about the Level Access request? It takes so long?
1187. # [11:25] <darkowlzz> Yoric, ^ any idea
1188. # [11:25] <darkowlzz> L1
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1190. # [11:26] <Yoric> darkowlzz: last Friday and last Monday are holidays in many countries, so it might have been delayed because of this.
1191. # [11:26] <darkowlzz> okay, nice time :)
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1194. # [11:29] <NeilAway> or "yesterday", as we like to call "last Monday" here ;-)
1195. # [11:29] <Yoric> :)
1196. # [11:30] <jfkthame> edmorley, looks like the win-debug that i retriggered on drew's push is running successfully, fwiw
1197. # [11:30] <edmorley> :-)
1198. # [11:30] <jfkthame> not that it necessarily helps to explain what broke
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1201. # [11:31] <Callek> darkowlzz: it can take a few weeks sometimes, depending on what else the necessary teams/people have on their plate. It is mostly process and not much actual code/config work, but still is process necessary to follow for legal and security reasons.
1202. # [11:31] <Callek> darkowlzz: hope that helps, but hopefully it can be resolved soon for you
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1204. # [11:33] <darkowlzz> Callek, NeilAway thanks
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1239. # [12:01] <Arjen87> Is anybody able to load https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-aurora/pushloghtml?startdate=2+day+ago&enddate=now and https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/pushloghtml?startdate=2+day+ago&enddate=now as expected like https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startdate=2+day+ago&enddate=now ?
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1243. # [12:05] <darkowlzz> Arjen87, not loading here too
1244. # [12:06] <Arjen87> Thank you for checking!
1245. # [12:06] <darkowlzz> or shows a blank page with a horizontal line at the top
1246. # [12:06] <darkowlzz> it's actually loading, but no dada
1247. # [12:06] <darkowlzz> *data
1248. # [12:06] <darkowlzz> source received
1249. # [12:06] <Arjen87> That's what I get too
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1251. # [12:07] <Arjen87> Could it be a limitation of hg, i.e. too many changsets?
1252. # [12:08] <darkowlzz> no idea :/
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1254. # [12:09] <Arjen87> Any idea who I should contact about it?
1255. # [12:09] <darkowlzz> I see CDATA body missing
1256. # [12:09] <darkowlzz> not sure but maybe #it
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1259. # [12:12] <Arjen87> Thank you for your help!
1260. # [12:12] <darkowlzz> np :)
1261. # [12:12] <Arjen87> I'll see what I can do any further
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1322. # [13:13] * @smaug really needs to get a new wifi access point... keeps crashing all the time
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1325. # [13:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb9f6df94fe5 - Robert Longson - Bug 398825 - Make the selectSubString method pref enabled and fix and re-enable the mochitests r=Ms2ger
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1327. # [13:18] <Callek> smaug: when looking for access points heed the warning as depicted in the "Bells of St John" and DO NOT click on a wifi SSID like http://shkspr.mobi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WiFi-Name-from-start-of-Doctor-Who.jpg
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1336. # [13:31] <NeilAway> Gijs: congrats!
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1338. # [13:31] <Gijs> NeilAway: thanks! :)
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1342. # [13:34] <glandium> smaug: or you need to flash yours
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1351. # [13:41] <@smaug> glandium: can't find a firmware which works with that ap
1352. # [13:41] <glandium> smaug: even dd-wrt?
1353. # [13:41] <glandium> or one of the variants?
1354. # [13:43] <@smaug> router database: 0 routers found
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1356. # [13:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/322dcd797401 - Nathan Froyd - Back out 80034b418a48 (bug 844331, part 6) on suspicion of breaking Telemetry submission; r=vladan
1357. # [13:44] <Ms2ger> Gijs, welcome
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1360. # [13:45] <Ms2ger> Gijs, but your twitter profile lies :)
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1362. # [13:45] <Gijs> Yeah, my LinkedIn profile probably lies, too.
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1364. # [13:46] <Gijs> I updated my personal website this morning, I'll get to those now
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1366. # [13:46] <Gijs> (while I'm setting up my new laptop and it's downloading lots of stuff anyway)
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1380. # [13:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4f217369d8a - Jon Coppeard - Bug 854955 - GC: Rooting in XrayWrapper.cpp r=bholley
1381. # [13:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a420200842e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 855668 - GC: Rooting in DictionaryHelpers.cpp r=smaug
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1387. # [14:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55bf1be50dfb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 856328 - Part 2: Create an engine for DynamicsCompressorNode and make sure that we deliver the right parameteres to it; r=padenot
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1389. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0ff82aa339a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 856329 - Create an engine for BiquadFilterNode and make sure that we deliver the right parameteres to it; r=padenot
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1391. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0523e7f80dfc - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 856328 - Part 1: Refactor sending an AudioParamTimeline to the stream into an AudioNode helper; r=padenot
1392. # [14:04] <Ms2ger> ehsan, parameteres, eh
1393. # [14:04] <@ehsan> shoot!
1394. # [14:04] <@ehsan> stupid permanent sha1s :(
1395. # [14:06] <db48x> we are all human
1396. # [14:06] <Ms2ger> I'm not
1397. # [14:06] <db48x> not everything needs to be exactly perfect before we show it to others
1398. # [14:06] <derf> Not everything. Just ehsan's things.
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1401. # [14:08] <@ehsan> hehe
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1403. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> ehsan, and if you can't do perfect commit messages, you can do reviews :)
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1407. # [14:14] <mcsmurf> 15 years of Mozilla: http://www.heise.de/imgs/18/1/7/9/6/2/0/8aa1c36ba29b1dad.jpg
1408. # [14:15] <mcsmurf> jwz in 1998 presenting the new mozilla.org strategy :)
1409. # [14:15] <mcsmurf> on the right is chofmann iirc
1410. # [14:15] <mcsmurf> don
1411. # [14:15] <mcsmurf> 't remember the other people
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1414. # [14:16] <Pike> 2nd from the left is probably /be
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1418. # [14:23] <mikedeboer> hey guys, what's the most recent way to make an official build?
1419. # [14:23] <mcsmurf> I thought so, too, but I was not sure :)
1420. # [14:23] <mcsmurf> (@Pike)
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1422. # [14:24] <mcsmurf> btw: Back then the buzzword of the season was the Portal business (said the article where I got the picture from)
1423. # [14:24] <mcsmurf> Netscape CEOs were talking about turning NSCP into some Portal specialist company
1424. # [14:24] <mcsmurf> or something like that
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1426. # [14:28] <mcsmurf> mikedeboer: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build
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1429. # [14:30] <mikedeboer> mcsmurf: thanks :) but I'm kind of past that stage... I'm working on a feature in FX that has specific behavior in an Official Build (Firefox) instead of the nightly.
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1432. # [14:32] <mcsmurf> ah you mean MOZILLA_OFFICIAL ?
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1434. # [14:33] <mikedeboer> mcsmurf: I found a page where the build flags are specified, but I thought there might be an option to build it without the need for a separate .mozconfig
1435. # [14:33] <mikedeboer> mcsmurf: yeah
1436. # [14:33] <past> mikedeboer: I think you should just use the proper mozconfig from browser/config for your system
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1438. # [14:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56fe7e26fa47 - David Burns - Bug 847655 - Removing atom click in favour of EventUtils click to gain trusted events r=jgriffin
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1445. # [14:39] <db48x> mikedeboer: about:buildconfig
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1464. # [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/094e09e55a5a - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 856001 - Built-in file picker dialog does not populate file input, r=mounir
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1469. # [14:54] <mikedeboer> past: I tried the 'release' config (http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/browser/config/mozconfigs/macosx-universal/release)
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1472. # [14:54] <mikedeboer> past: but that yielded this error: ac_add_app_options is not supported.
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1475. # [14:56] <mikedeboer> past: which are declared/ used in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig.common
1476. # [14:57] <past> they are actually declared in mozconfig2configure, hmm
1477. # [14:57] <past> mikedeboer: are you building with mach?
1478. # [14:57] <mikedeboer> past: yup
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1481. # [14:58] <past> mikedeboer: I've never tried it to be honest. Maybe ask in #build?
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1483. # [14:59] <mikedeboer> past: oki :)
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1515. # [15:19] <mikedeboer> gps: ping
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1519. # [15:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fe83576713e - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 855839 - Enable IonMonkey on ARMv6 android builds. r=blassey
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1544. # [15:40] <RyanVM> ehsan: ping
1545. # [15:40] <@ehsan> RyanVM: hi
1546. # [15:40] <RyanVM> ehsan: some recent win debug mochitest-1 runs are showing this: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21341447&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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1548. # [15:41] <RyanVM> possibly from bug 856771?
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1551. # [15:42] <RyanVM> ehsan: winxp and win7 so far
1552. # [15:42] <@ehsan> RyanVM: why do you think that?
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1554. # [15:42] <RyanVM> just looking at recent media landings
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1556. # [15:43] <@ehsan> no my patch can't be at blame, since it's a Web Audio patch, and the test in question doesn't examine anything Web Audio related...
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1558. # [15:43] <@ehsan> RyanVM: note that roc added that test yesterday, so it might just be flaky ;)
1559. # [15:43] <RyanVM> good point :)
1560. # [15:44] <RyanVM> yeah, missed that part, sorry :P
1561. # [15:44] <RyanVM> i'll just back it out for now
1562. # [15:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: actually, looking at the log, the onplaying event is dispatched twice
1563. # [15:44] * mjschranz_away is now known as mjschranz
1564. # [15:44] <@ehsan> you might wanna file a bug on that
1565. # [15:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: see how we have two lines with "playback started"?
1566. # [15:44] <@ehsan> no wonder finish() is called twice ;)
1567. # [15:45] <RyanVM> ehsan, I'll point it out in the backout
1568. # [15:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c50426438d90 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8ed978214fdb (bug 850587) for frequent Windows debug failures.
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1570. # [15:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM: alright, as long as roc somehow sees your comment :)
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1577. # [15:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b28660314781 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
1578. # [15:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d41e05df1273 - Axel Hecht - bug 853291, add Polish to b2g gecko l10n, a=tef+, NPOTB, DONTBUILD
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1582. # [15:54] <RyanVM> Gijs: welcome aboard!
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1584. # [15:54] <Gijs> RyanVM: thanks, glad to be here! :)
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1596. # [15:59] <romaxa_zzz> dcamp: ping
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1601. # [16:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1503eecb2e4 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 856756 - Extract a HardwareUtils class. r=mfinkle
1602. # [16:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4d0e624c2ba - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 856756 - Move GeckoApp.hasPermanentMenuKey to HardwareUtils.hasMenuButton. r=mfinkle
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1605. # [16:04] <luisbg> morning :)
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1624. # [16:13] <SDUP> hi there, i've got troubles with my xpcom component here : http://pastebin.com/6cMkR9Jz
1625. # [16:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3afbf5e444c - Sunny - Bug 854350 - [OS.File] Clean up code by using default arguments. r=Yoric
1626. # [16:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e53044984f1b - Sunny - Bug 854350 - Add some cleanup code which fixes mochitest failures. r=Yoric
1627. # [16:14] <Yoric> SDUP: ... that's... interesting
1628. # [16:14] <Yoric> SDUP: Is there an implementation of the method in nsMetadataFileGeneric?
1629. # [16:15] <Yoric> Otherwise, you might wish to mark the method as |= 0|.
1630. # [16:15] <SDUP> yes
1631. # [16:15] <SDUP> there is
1632. # [16:15] <Yoric> ok, so that's not the problem
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1635. # [16:16] <Yoric> SDUP: Does http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cch459kz%28v=VS.80%29.aspx help you?
1636. # [16:16] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: mis-star here, possibly relevant infra issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603147#c1036
1637. # [16:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2735d922d138 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 853449 - Dispatching an event that's already being dispatched should throw InvalidStateError; r=smaug
1638. # [16:17] <Yoric> It looks like VC++ wants you to re-declare the method as virtual in the child class.
1639. # [16:17] <SDUP> I'm checking this page atm
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1642. # [16:17] <glandium> SDUP: the error is pretty explicit, you need to declare the virtual method in the child class, or declare the method in the parent class
1643. # [16:17] <aznice> I'm interested in using Azure in a third-party application. Has anyone done so before?
1644. # [16:18] <glandium> Bas: ^
1645. # [16:18] <SDUP> gandium : the method is already declared in the parent class
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1647. # [16:18] <glandium> SDUP: that's the problem
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1650. # [16:18] <glandium> SDUP: you need to declare it in the child class if the child class has an implementation
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1655. # [16:19] <SDUP> glandium : my bad, i assume that thing (i'm using too much macros...)
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1657. # [16:20] <RyanVM> gfritzsche: that's a red herring, look at the log
1658. # [16:20] <aznice> There's a bit of a learning curve in determining what's going on with the mozilla build system. From what I gather so far, it almost looked like I could use gkmedia on Windows for it.. but that for cross-platform, perhaps I should go with all of libxul since it builds into that. Maybe I can somehow use XULRunner with additional components, but I haven't looked into it entirely.
1659. # [16:20] <aznice> (I'm blabbing about wanting to use Azure)
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1661. # [16:21] <RyanVM> jlebar: ping
1662. # [16:21] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: ah, that's sneaky
1663. # [16:21] <romaxa> dcamp: is there are big reason of why nsDOMFile.h contains nsString.h and not nsStringGlue.h? I'm trying to implement nsIFilePicker in external component and cannot include nsDOMFile.h
1664. # [16:22] <glandium> aznice: you should be able to use azure standalone, Bas will be able to help you if he's around
1665. # [16:24] <aznice> glandium: that would be ideal. azure's my first choice for what i'd like to use, and skia's pretty far behind (though how to use it in a third party app seems more straightforward and documented)
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1668. # [16:24] <jesup> is glob here on IRC the same glob/Bryon who runs logbot?
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1670. # [16:25] <glob> jesup, yes
1671. # [16:25] <glob> jesup, hi!
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1674. # [16:25] <jesup> glob: Cool! We're looking to switch loggers for #media (rillian set it up a Long Time Ago, and it stopped working a few days ago)
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1678. # [16:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/892800c367ab - Sankha Narayan Guria - Bug 825608 - Sets accessTokenDate to the result of the pref; r=jdm
1679. # [16:26] <jesup> would that be possible?
1680. # [16:26] <glob> jesup, yes, i just need approval from a channel op
1681. # [16:26] <jesup> (adding #media to what you're logging)
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1683. # [16:26] <jesup> Ok. derf is usually op there, though somehow he's no longer listed as such in-channel
1684. # [16:27] <derf> glob: I approve.
1685. # [16:27] <jesup> I can set topics - don't know if I have more privs than that - how can I tell?
1686. # [16:27] <jesup> cool
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1690. # [16:27] <glob> derf, odd.. you're not showing up as an op on #media
1691. # [16:27] <glob> but, i can see the topic was set by jesup, so no worries
1692. # [16:28] <derf> glob: Yeah, not sure what's up with that.
1693. # [16:28] <derf> I was until this weekend.
1694. # [16:28] <glob> jesup, derf: http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23media
1695. # [16:29] <jesup> glob: thanks
1696. # [16:29] <glob> yw :)
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1701. # [16:31] <Bas> aznice: Hi!
1702. # [16:32] <Bas> aznice: In how much of a hurry are you?
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1709. # [16:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e53576c1bbc6 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 839103 - part 4 - add test for StyleSheet{Added,Removed} events; r=bz
1710. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7910dcaf0574 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 839103 - part 2 - enable chrome dispatching of nsIDOMEvents in nsAsyncDOMEvent; r=bz
1711. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0ad493f2d4f - Nathan Froyd - Bug 839103 - part 1 - factor out StyleSheet{Added,Removed} notifications into separate nsDocument methods; r=bz
1712. # [16:36] <aznice> Bas: oh, hi. No big hurry
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1714. # [16:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a4274e7cde9 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 839103 - part 3 - send StyleSheet{Added,Removed} chrome notifications when stylesheets are added/removed; r=bz
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1716. # [16:37] <Bas> aznice: If you can wait a couple of weeks, we'll likely have the stand-alone build in much better shape, having said that I -can- tell you how to get to it right now, it's probably ~0.5 day of work to get it setup right.
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1720. # [16:38] <aznice> Bas: I should be able to wait a couple weeks. How can I check that the stand-along build fixing-up is done?
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1722. # [16:38] <Bas> aznice: You'll see a Moz2D toplevel repository coming up :) And Makefiles/updated visual studio project files being added.
1723. # [16:38] <aznice> in the meantime, I can keep busy setting up some UI framework stuff if I get an hour here and there
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1726. # [16:38] <Bas> aznice: Which platform are you most interested in?
1727. # [16:39] <aznice> aznice: Sounds good. I'm most interested in Windows, but somewhat interested in MacOSX and others (in part just because I would think it's absurd to make something that doesn't given the tools that exist now)
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1729. # [16:40] <aznice> Bas: ^
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1731. # [16:40] <Bas> aznice: Okay, so Direct2D support on windows is very solid at the moment, Quartz and Skia (which you're more likely to use on OS X) are in a good state with the basic functionality, but there's some more complex things which are still being fixed up.
1732. # [16:40] <aznice> Bas: and Visual Studio is most convenient, so it's good that the project(s) will be set up
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1735. # [16:41] <Bas> aznice: So with -just- visual studio and Direct2D support you can already use it right now.
1736. # [16:42] <aznice> Bas: perfect :). I'm a little curious -- I didn't do the full research, but I noticed that Skia seemed to often be slower when using OpenGL acceleration than raster... and it occurred to me that they're likely not accelerating any kind of path routines
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1740. # [16:42] <aznice> Bas: with the Azure+Direct2D path, are there places where curves (e.g. Bezier) are accelerated on hardware? I assume that the Direct2D API would allow it somehow, but I didn't do that research
1741. # [16:43] <Bas> aznice: Well, path drawing isn't easy to accelerate, there's tradeoffs, Direct2D uses a tessellation based method for all paths, the downside is that for thin strokes with complex curvatures the algorithms to tessellate them aren't cheap. Skia makes different considerations and is a little less mature.
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1744. # [16:44] <aznice> Bas: I see.. Anyway, in theory it seems to me that a light wrapper over a 2D-specific API should be best for potential acceleration assuming that the 2D API guys know what they're doing
1745. # [16:45] <aznice> Bas: so I'll just assume that it'll be alright
1746. # [16:45] <Bas> aznice: Well, yeah, that's sort of the idea of Azure, although we're still toying with the idea of our own accelerated backend.
1747. # [16:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0e27a5ae2b6 - JosiahOne - Bug 855370 - Remove the ability to not 'Always show the tab bar'. r=dao, ui-r=limi
1748. # [16:45] <JosiahOne> Hurray!
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1750. # [16:45] <aznice> Bas: good. hence the wrapper being a good thing once again :)
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1754. # [16:49] <romaxa> dcamp: unpong, found utils->WrapDOMFile API
1755. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> romaxa, doesn't new File(nsifile) work?
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1757. # [16:52] <romaxa> Ms2ger: you mean new nsDOMFileFile ?
1758. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> romaxa, oh, C++
1759. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> romaxa, good luck with that :/
1760. # [16:53] <romaxa> Ms2ger: problem not in C++ but with internal/external API
1761. # [16:53] <romaxa> Ms2ger: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=wrapDOMFile
1762. # [16:54] <romaxa> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/filepicker/nsFilePicker.js#128
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1779. # [17:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ec9994badfc - Charith Tangirala - Bug 853590 Remove unused mutex impl from CPR r=jesup
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1793. # [17:11] <philor> froydnj: not exactly entirely completely, you know, compiling
1794. # [17:12] <philor> "Pushed with requested changes," heh
1795. # [17:13] * mbrubeck has a push queued up, can back out froydnj while I'm at it...
1796. # [17:13] <froydnj> philor: huh, compiled here...
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1799. # [17:14] <khuey> what version are we shipping today?
1800. # [17:14] <khuey> 20?
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1802. # [17:15] <NeilAway> bah, stupid DOMWillShowModalDialog event
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1804. # [17:15] <mbrubeck> khuey: yes
1805. # [17:15] <froydnj> mbrubeck: go ahead and back me out too, guess we include different headers on OS X or something crazy like that
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1807. # [17:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9ed59633c05 - Matt Brubeck - Back out bug 839103 for build errors on a CLOSED TREE
1808. # [17:16] <mbrubeck> done
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1812. # [17:17] <froydnj> philor: pushing requested changes that break the build is a test of slavish devotion to the reviewers
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1814. # [17:17] <froydnj> mbrubeck: thanks
1815. # [17:17] <mcsmurf> hm.. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/20.0/releasenotes/
1816. # [17:17] <mcsmurf> does this one "Ability to close hanging plugins, without the browser hanging" mean this bug:
1817. # [17:17] <mcsmurf> "Bug 805591 - Add UI to be shown when plugin is unresponsive"
1818. # [17:17] <mcsmurf> then I think it's a rather bad description
1819. # [17:18] <mcsmurf> though, kinda correct..
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1821. # [17:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6dc0ad3fd42 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 856757 - Remove unused/broken code from metro LoginManagerPrompter [r=bbondy]
1822. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9437f13fa3d2 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 798844 - Remove Metro fork of login manager; use the original version in toolkit [r=bbondy]
1823. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f333a9c1dc0 - Rodrigo Silveira - Bug 855677 - Don't display "undefined" in restored tab titles [r=mbrubeck]
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1841. # [17:30] <RyanVM> froydnj: looks like it was debug bustage
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1843. # [17:30] <jlebar> RyanVM: hi
1844. # [17:31] <RyanVM> jlebar: are your browser-element test cleanup patches OK for uplift or were there remaining issues that needed addressing first?
1845. # [17:31] <jlebar> RyanVM: In your judgement did I avoid regressing the tests to an unacceptable level?
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1848. # [17:31] <RyanVM> jlebar: no, AFAICT the only issue is the one you're already aware of
1849. # [17:33] <jlebar> RyanVM: My question was unclear, but itym that you think it's okay. In which case please go ahead and uplift.
1850. # [17:33] <RyanVM> jlebar: OK, will do
1851. # [17:33] <jlebar> RyanVM: ta
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1860. # [17:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9d8dbc0b1f7 - Benoit Girard - Bug 856281 - Fixed HAVE_NATIVE_UNWIND definition. r=ehsan
1861. # [17:40] <froydnj> RyanVM: yes. lovely.
1862. # [17:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fd044aa4a1f - Felipe Gomes - Bug 854299 - Part 2. Update DownloadLastDir.getFile. r=adw
1863. # [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ae681d69430 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 854299 - Part 4. Add a callback function to contentAreaUtils's getTargetFile. r=adw
1864. # [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82be854a0ac1 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 850210 - Part 3. Update DownloadLastDir usage of removePrefsByName to nsIContentPrefService2. r=adw
1865. # [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ee33c2d4374 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 854299 - Part 3. Change tests accordingly to support operations that are now async. r=me
1866. # [17:41] <RyanVM> froydnj: better than some random osx-only bustage, I suppose
1867. # [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b560513ee661 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 854299 - Part 1. Split nsExternalAppHandler::SaveToDisk in two parts to make second part async. r=bz sr=roc
1868. # [17:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe664dd25564 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 854299 - Part 5. Make nsHelperAppDlg.promptForSaveToFileAsync actually async. r=bz
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1873. # [17:42] <froydnj> RyanVM: yup
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1883. # [17:46] <RyanVM> froydnj: if it makes you feel better, looks like you had mochitest crashes too
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1890. # [17:48] <RyanVM> froydnj: so you did manage to break everything :P
1891. # [17:48] <froydnj> RyanVM: that definitely makes me feel better :)
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1893. # [17:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b779e6bb46c - Chris Peterson - Bug 856947 - Fix dom/battery test to handle running on either battery or AC power. r=mounir
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1914. # [17:55] <jlebar> bent: at what point is a ContentParent ready to send messages to its child? It's not after ::Initialized() -- that's too early, apparently.
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1916. # [17:56] <bent> jlebar, i can look but i'm heading into a mtg
1917. # [17:56] <bent> jlebar, so it might be a while
1918. # [17:56] <jlebar> bent: ok
1919. # [17:56] <bent> :-/
1920. # [17:56] <bent> sorry
1921. # [17:56] <jlebar> bent: np
1922. # [17:56] <Ms2ger> Those damn meetings
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1926. # [17:57] <jlebar> bent: perhaps OnChannelConnected. That sounds promising.
1927. # [17:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/172651edb28e - Eddy Bruel - Bug 568953 - Added reflection support for module declarations; r=jorendorff
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1932. # [17:59] <annevk> jesup: yt? Do you know if MediaStream takes multiple consumers at once?
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1974. # [18:09] <jlebar> If I want to test an nsISupports* for equality with another object, I must QI /both/ objects to nsISupports, right?
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1978. # [18:09] <jlebar> because I don't know that the first nsISupports* is actually the right pointer.
1979. # [18:09] <bent> jlebar, SameCOMIdentity
1980. # [18:09] * bent ducks back to mtg
1981. # [18:09] <jlebar> bent: thanks. :)
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1983. # [18:10] <jesup> annevk: You can assign a MediaStream to multiple consumers (local image and PeerConnection is a common case)
1984. # [18:11] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: ???
1985. # [18:11] <annevk> jesup: the specification should probably clear that up
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1988. # [18:12] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: (on bug 856108)
1989. # [18:12] <annevk> jesup: thanks
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1991. # [18:12] <jesup> We don't support mixing-and-matching tracks to build derived MediaStreams yet in FF. The spec should be clear on multiple use; are you reading the editor's draft?
1992. # [18:12] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, ?
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1995. # [18:13] <jcranmer> "This isn't called anymore"
1996. # [18:13] <jcranmer> what do you mean by that?
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1998. # [18:13] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, that is the only occurrence of 'foo' in the file
1999. # [18:14] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: uh, it's a test file
2000. # [18:14] <jcranmer> and it __attribute__((constructor)), which means it's called by compiler magic on startup
2001. # [18:14] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, well, it was called in the old test
2002. # [18:15] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, so I wanted to make sure it was intentional that you didn't remove it
2003. # [18:15] <jcranmer> uh, no it wasn't
2004. # [18:15] <jcranmer> you're looking at the wrong foo
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2008. # [18:16] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, excellent
2009. # [18:16] <jcranmer> it's inspired by TestStaticInitAttr, not the TestStaticInitGlobal variant
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2027. # [18:24] <annevk> jesup: I'm reading the editor's draft yes
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2029. # [18:24] <jesup> Please feel free to comment on the public-media-capture list! ;-)
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2032. # [18:25] <annevk> jesup: in particular http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/getusermedia.html#mediastream does not seem to mention it
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2034. # [18:25] <annevk> jesup: I guess I should
2035. # [18:25] <jesup> thanks!
2036. # [18:25] <khuey> Traceback (most recent call last):
2037. # [18:25] <khuey> File "obj-i686-pc-mingw32/_tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py", line 25, in <
2038. # [18:25] <khuey> module> from automation import Automation File "z:\H
2039. # [18:25] <khuey> ome\src\khuey\obj-i686-pc-mingw32\_tests\testing\mochitest\automatio
2040. # [18:25] <khuey> n.py", line 36, in <module> import mozcrash
2041. # [18:25] <khuey> ImportError: No module named mozcrash
2042. # [18:25] <khuey> how do I fix that?
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2045. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> khuey, use objdir/virtualenv/python
2046. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> khuey, or mach/make
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2048. # [18:28] <khuey> by which you mean objdir/_virtualenv/Scripts/python
2049. # [18:28] <khuey> $ ./obj-i686-pc-mingw32/_virtualenv/Scripts/python.exe obj-i686-pc-mingw32/_tes
2050. # [18:28] <khuey> ts/testing/mochitest/runtests.py --xre-path=/z/Home/src/khuey/obj-i686-pc-mingw
2051. # [18:28] <khuey> 32/dist/bin/ --utility-path=/z/Home/src/khuey/obj-i686-pc-mingw32/dist/bin/ --c
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2054. # [18:28] <khuey> ertificate-path=/z/Home/src/khuey/build/pgo/certs/ --test-path=dom/indexedDB/ -
2055. # [18:28] <khuey> -autorun --close-when-done --console-level=INFO
2056. # [18:28] <khuey> Traceback (most recent call last):
2057. # [18:28] <khuey> File "obj-i686-pc-mingw32/_tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py", line 22, in <
2058. # [18:28] <khuey> module>
2059. # [18:28] <khuey> from urllib import quote_plus as encodeURIComponent
2060. # [18:28] <mbrubeck> Don't you love the Windows console's complete inability to copy text sanely?
2061. # [18:28] <khuey> File "c:\mozilla-build\python\Lib\urllib.py", line 26, in <module>
2062. # [18:28] <khuey> import socket
2063. # [18:28] <khuey> File "c:\mozilla-build\python\Lib\socket.py", line 46, in <module>
2064. # [18:28] <khuey> it's great isn't it?
2065. # [18:28] <khuey> import _socket
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2067. # [18:28] <khuey> ImportError: Module use of python26.dll conflicts with this version of Python.
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2069. # [18:29] <khuey> oh
2070. # [18:30] <khuey> this is because my VM has a different mozillabuild than the host
2071. # [18:30] <khuey> lovely
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2086. # [18:37] <darkowlzz> how do I log |Deprecated.jsm|'s warning while running xpcshell-test?
2087. # [18:37] <khuey> Ms2ger: that doesn't actually work ...
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2089. # [18:37] <darkowlzz> right now, I am doing, ./mach xpcshell-test path/to/test/file
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2091. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> khuey, ?
2092. # [18:38] <khuey> Ms2ger: the virtualenv python doesn't fix the mozcrash problem
2093. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> Ah
2094. # [18:38] <Ms2ger> khuey, blame windows
2095. # [18:38] <khuey> I'd rather blame you
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2102. # [18:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e77cc47227d - Bobby Holley - Bug 856257 - Clean up nsXPConnect sandbox API a bit. r=mrbkap
2103. # [18:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/513b51bb7909 - Bobby Holley - Bug 856257 - Use a sandbox in nsJSConfigTriggers. r=mrbkap
2104. # [18:43] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: ping
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2107. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa6ba18658a2 - Olli Pettay - Bug 856413 - Once UIEvent#view property is read, value of UIEvent#view property will be null, r=Ms2ger
2108. # [18:44] <bsmedberg> jrmuizel: pong
2109. # [18:44] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: do you know if we have any sort ipdl logging facitility?
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2111. # [18:45] <jrmuizel> facility
2112. # [18:45] <bsmedberg> jrmuizel: we do. It's less than ideal, but MOZ_IPC_MESSAGE_LOG=1 in your env will turn it on
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2115. # [18:46] <jrmuizel> bsmedberg: and what does that all ouput?
2116. # [18:46] <bsmedberg> message names, I think
2117. # [18:46] <bsmedberg> not any contents
2118. # [18:46] <jrmuizel> ok
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2132. # [18:54] <mgoodwin> Should I be able to build on 32 bit linux ld complains I'm exhausting memory? I tried cross compiling from a 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04 but that didn't work so well...
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2137. # [18:56] <mikedeboer> khuey: can I ask you a question on building an Official Release build of Fx on Mac?
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2145. # [18:59] <mbrubeck> mgoodwin: How much memory do you have? Installing binutils-gold or using "LDFLAGS=-Wl,-no-keep-memory" can help.
2146. # [19:00] <khuey> mikedeboer: you can try
2147. # [19:00] <khuey> mikedeboer: I don't know much about mac ...
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2149. # [19:00] <mgoodwin> mbrubeck: it's on a VM that I gave 4GB
2150. # [19:00] <mikedeboer> khuey: ok, here goes nothing! :)
2151. # [19:00] <mikedeboer> when I try to build with http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/browser/config/mozconfigs/macosx-universal/release as mozconfig I get an error: 'ac_add_app_options is not supported.', which are used in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/build/macosx/universal/mozconfig.common and comes from http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/mozconfig_loader
2152. # [19:00] <mgoodwin> which ought to be plenty
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2154. # [19:01] <mbrubeck> mikedeboer: That's a bug in mach, I think.
2155. # [19:01] <mbrubeck> mikedeboer: I think you just need to use "make -f client.mk" instead of "mach build"...
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2157. # [19:01] <mikedeboer> mbrubeck: thanks! I'll try that
2158. # [19:01] <mbrubeck> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855593
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2168. # [19:08] <khuey> mikedeboer: yay I didn't even have to do any work!
2169. # [19:08] <mgoodwin> mbrubeck: I'm still getting failure after setting LDFLAGS
2170. # [19:08] <mikedeboer> khuey: still, I'm gonna do mbrubeck++, you'll get another chance, I'm sure of it!
2171. # [19:08] <mikedeboer> :D
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2176. # [19:11] <JosiahOne> Why is it always "porn mode" http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-3514_7-57577394/new-firefox-expands-porn-mode-abilities/
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2179. # [19:11] <JosiahOne> Does nobody use it for anything else?
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2181. # [19:11] <mbrubeck> mgoodwin: Hmm... 4GB used to be enough... I'd try binutils-gold to see if that helps. Also see if anyone follows up to the messages from ishikawa in https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/l-ph4-ZhpN4
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2184. # [19:12] <jhammel> JosiahOne: i'm sure people use it for looking up information on drugs and other criminal activities
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2187. # [19:13] <JosiahOne> jhammel: Lol. That doesn't really sound any better.
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2194. # [19:15] <jhammel> JosiahOne: well, worse, really since (most) porn is legal (in the US and similar)
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2197. # [19:15] <JosiahOne> jhammel: … That's unfortunately true...
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2199. # [19:15] <mbrubeck> mgoodwin: Coincidentally, heftig just mentioned the same issue in #build about 10 minutes ago
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2202. # [19:16] <mbrubeck> sounds like a recent regression, since I've now heard about it three times this week.
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2208. # [19:17] <tzimmermann> bent: hi. do you know if we have a wiki page about bluetooth?
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2216. # [19:20] <@bz> mgoodwin: building a 32-bit linux build on a 32-bit machine?
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2218. # [19:20] <@bz> mgoodwin: That might well run out of memory for ld, depending on what your -g settings are and whether you're doing LTO
2219. # [19:20] <@bz> mgoodwin: cross-compiling 32-bit on a 64-bit setup should work, however
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2221. # [19:21] <mbrubeck> Since yesterday I've heard three people say that building on 32-bit Linux is failing with an OOM error. So I think there's some recent regression...
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2223. # [19:21] <@bz> well
2224. # [19:21] <@bz> "regression" as in "we just added a tad more code"
2225. # [19:22] <@bz> Last I checked, my 32-bit debug libxul was about a gig on disk
2226. # [19:22] <@bz> on Linux
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2228. # [19:22] <mbrubeck> yeah, could be
2229. # [19:22] <@bz> With the default --enable-debug -g setting
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2231. # [19:22] <@bz> and linking it sure took a lot of memory
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2234. # [19:23] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: ping
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2240. # [19:26] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: pong
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2242. # [19:27] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: is bug 630197 something you can still reproduce? I'm looking for a minidump I can send to nvidia
2243. # [19:27] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: no, it stopped several months ago
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2249. # [19:28] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: do you still have the about:crashes IDs from less than 6 months ago?
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2251. # [19:29] <jcranmer> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-b82e53a1-0b59-4514-b2bf-0e0f52121220 is the last crash ID I have
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2253. # [19:29] <jcranmer> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-a703f90c-a6e8-40c2-86dd-35ce12121212 actually appears to be a better one
2254. # [19:30] <@smaug> Gijs: welcome!
2255. # [19:30] <Gijs> smaug: ta! Well done on avoiding that r? immediately. ;)
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2258. # [19:30] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: (I'm judging from the days where I have three/four crashes in one day)
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2261. # [19:31] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: do I have your permission to send that minidump to nvidia?
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2263. # [19:31] <jcranmer> sure
2264. # [19:31] <@smaug> Gijs: heh
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2266. # [19:31] <Gijs> smaug: curious though, I would argue that "cursor" and "pointer" are essentially synonyms, even if one is now outmoded, so I don't think it ought to make a difference for l10n?
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2268. # [19:32] <Gijs> But then, maybe I'm already falling for the stereotypical "oh, l10n can deal with this" assumption that seems to have messed things up before...
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2270. # [19:32] <Mossop> Why can't I build anymore? Fails with "[Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified"
2271. # [19:32] <Gijs> smaug: (re: changing the string ID)
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2274. # [19:34] <@smaug> Gijs: I would have agreed with you still few weeks ago, but now I'm not sure. We changed some strings in print handling and l10n devs didn't like that at all
2275. # [19:34] <@smaug> Gijs: but ask Pike
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2278. # [19:35] <Gijs> Makes sense. Pike, can you have a look at this (see bug 854583) ?
2279. # [19:35] <lmandel> vlad: Hey Vlad. Can you give a games update during today's platform meeting?
2280. # [19:35] <lmandel> Would love to hear about GDC.
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2285. # [19:38] <bsmedberg> gps: hey did you see "Newbie: built Firefox, tests fail. What now?" in mozilla.dev.builds?
2286. # [19:38] <bsmedberg> I suspect mach would help that person, but I'm not sure
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2291. # [19:40] <Pike> Gijs: sounds like the few locales that are following nightly stuck to that "mouse cursor" rather literally, so it's good to change the IDs there
2292. # [19:40] <Pike> and off to dinner
2293. # [19:41] <Gijs> Pike: cool, thanks!
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2297. # [19:41] <@gavin> Gijs: so no change on aurora, change on m-c?/
2298. # [19:41] <@gavin> is that the conclusoin?
2299. # [19:41] <darkowlzz> hi, is |Task.spawn| an alternative to |Promise| and it's |then|?
2300. # [19:42] <Gijs> Ehm. I hadn't actually considered that part of the question, more the, "do I need to make up new string identifiers" question.
2301. # [19:42] <@gavin> darkowlzz: no
2302. # [19:42] <Gijs> gavin: once the patch has review etc. I can look at the aurora bits
2303. # [19:42] <Gijs> If memory serves me, we never change l10n on aurora, right?
2304. # [19:42] <Gijs> In which case it may just land as-is?
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2306. # [19:42] <Gijs> (ie, without the strings updated)
2307. # [19:43] <darkowlzz> gavin, so I can use |Promise| inside |Task.spawn| ?
2308. # [19:43] <@gavin> in the common case, yes
2309. # [19:43] <@gavin> darkowlzz: er, yes
2310. # [19:43] <@gavin> Gijs: that soudns like the best plan to me. land patch as-is on aurora, but for m-c also update the string names.
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2313. # [19:44] <darkowlzz> but what's the difference, Task will wait till the promise is completed
2314. # [19:44] <@gavin> they're really quite separate concepts
2315. # [19:44] <darkowlzz> about which I am not clear
2316. # [19:44] <@gavin> Tasks are just a way to write async code that looks sync
2317. # [19:44] <Gijs> gavin: oh, sorry, my terminology is confused. I meant, the pointer lock thing may see one revision (whatever just went to Aurora, is that 22?) without the string change
2318. # [19:44] <Gijs> but I suppose your plan would work too provided Pike wouldn't object to that.
2319. # [19:45] <@gavin> Gijs: I think we want to avoid shipping the strings and then changing them
2320. # [19:45] <@gavin> so we should change them on aurora too
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2322. # [19:45] <Gijs> OK, roger that.
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2324. # [19:46] <darkowlzz> gavin, what more? if you are free to discuss
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2330. # [19:47] <@gavin> darkowlzz: tasks use promises. not sure what your question is :)
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2334. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in:
2335. # [19:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/505afb5e8571 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug) Remove terminal "." at the end of warning & assertion in nsBaseWidget.cpp, to fix ".:" in "warningmessage.: line-of-source-code". DONTBUILD because just
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2338. # [19:48] <firebot> tweaking assertion-message
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2340. # [19:48] <darkowlzz> gavin, my question was, when I use Task, do I have to use promise inside it separately? or Task does that automatically
2341. # [19:49] <tanvi> gavin: i pushed your patch to try and this time the password manager tests didn't fail. <<MattN
2342. # [19:49] <tanvi> gavin: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=103150888efe
2343. # [19:49] <tanvi> gavin: maybe the failures are intermittent… or maybe your patch does really resolve the issue
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2352. # [19:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a57e0f94616 - Wes Johnston - Bug 826639 - Force pending about:home updates to happen onDraw. r=lucasr
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2365. # [20:00] <mgoodwin> bz: binutils-gold fixed my problem
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2367. # [20:01] <mgoodwin> but cross compiling seems to fail on Ubuntu 12.04 due to a problem finding glib2
2368. # [20:01] <mgoodwin> it's there OK; maybe my mozconfig needed a tweak
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2380. # [20:09] <bsmedberg> RyanVM: why did you move bug 856355 to IPC ?
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2382. # [20:09] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: IPC-looking stuff further down the stack
2383. # [20:10] <RyanVM> and failures in the IPC suite too
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2402. # [20:23] <@ehsan> glandium: ping
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2407. # [20:24] <bent> tzimmermann, back, sorry. not sure if we have a wiki page devoted to bluetooth, what kind of info are you looking for?
2408. # [20:25] <glandium> ehsan: pong
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2410. # [20:25] <@ehsan> glandium: hi, about the kiss fft stuff
2411. # [20:25] <@ehsan> glandium: did you see my last comment on the bug?
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2414. # [20:26] <glandium> ehsan: yes
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2416. # [20:26] <@ehsan> ok, so what do you think?
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2420. # [20:27] <glandium> ehsan: that i don't like code duplication, but that there isn't much to do about that one
2421. # [20:27] <@ehsan> yeah I don't like it much either :(
2422. # [20:27] <glandium> like, we don't have enough code duplication already :(
2423. # [20:27] <@ehsan> I know
2424. # [20:27] <NeilAway> darkowlzz: as I understand it, if you want to do something async that looks sync, you need to write a generator that yields a promise, and then make a task from it, and the task will resume your generator once the promise resolves
2425. # [20:27] <glandium> and libxul is not big enough
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2428. # [20:27] <@ehsan> but I can't think of a good way to avoid code duplication there
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2433. # [20:28] <glandium> ehsan: patch opus to use a pristine kiss fft :)
2434. # [20:28] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> RyanVM: if you haven't already, i think you should close the trees
2435. # [20:28] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> IT is still debugging network issues
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2438. # [20:29] <@ehsan> glandium: heh, yeah that _could_ be a follow-up bug
2439. # [20:29] <@ehsan> but I'd like to make progress in the mean time ;)
2440. # [20:29] <@ehsan> glandium: so is your r+ still good?
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2442. # [20:29] <glandium> ehsan: that pretty much guarantees it will never happen
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2444. # [20:29] <glandium> ehsan: the r+ was always good. i was just expressing concern
2445. # [20:30] <RyanVM> bhearsum|yesiseenagios: I haven't seen any other issues so far - just the one blip
2446. # [20:30] <RyanVM> if I see more red, I'll close
2447. # [20:30] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> ok-
2448. # [20:30] <glandium> ehsan: note i wouldn't mind relooking at a build-system-only patch
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2450. # [20:30] <@ehsan> glandium: great... good news (sort of) is that in the future we might switch to a different fft library ;)
2451. # [20:30] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> i would expect tons of dns resolution failures, fwiw
2452. # [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e20079a17e4f - Eddy Bruel - Bug 846881 - Add NULL checks to PuppetWidget; r=bz
2453. # [20:30] <@ehsan> glandium: I'm going to rework the import again anyways, so I might as well split the build system parts out
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2455. # [20:31] <@ehsan> I'll attach a new patch in ~half an hour
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2459. # [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea2d05f0a053 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 856767: Finalize cursors on about:home. [r=mfinkle]
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2467. # [20:36] <bent> mak, ping
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2469. # [20:36] <mak> bent: hi!
2470. # [20:36] <bent> mak, howdy
2471. # [20:37] <bent> mak, can you tell me about why we chose 32k as our page_size for sqlite?
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2473. # [20:37] <bent> mak, like, based on desktop performance numbers or some kind of theoretical guess
2474. # [20:37] <Waldo> do Aurora users get nightly updates as new stuff lands in aurora, or no?
2475. # [20:37] <mak> bent: taras measured it performing better on our tier1 platforms (at that time, that doesn't include mobile)
2476. # [20:37] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> Waldo: yes
2477. # [20:38] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> Waldo: but not at the moment, because we just merged
2478. # [20:38] <bhearsum|yesiseenagios> we usually disable those updates for ~1w after we merge
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2481. # [20:38] <bent> mak, ok. so i'm 90% sure that it's too big for b2g
2482. # [20:38] <Waldo> bhearsum|yesiseenagios: seems reasonable
2483. # [20:38] <mak> bent: it's possible, we probably need similar measures of the perf effect
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2486. # [20:39] <tzimmermann> bent: just some general info about bt. i was wondering if something like this exists
2487. # [20:39] * Waldo tries to think of any other questions he should already be able to answer, to ask :-)
2488. # [20:39] <bent> mak, would you prefer i remove the define in the makefile and then add an arg to the openDatabase to set the page_size to a non-default?
2489. # [20:39] <bent> mak, or would you prefer that i just hack in an #ifdef
2490. # [20:40] <mak> bent: I think an ifdef would make more sense, it's not an option that looks useful to set when opening a connection, it's something we can measure per platform and provide a good default
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2492. # [20:41] <qDot> tzimmermann: Like, about the protocol?
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2495. # [20:41] <bent> mak, sqlite has some kind of logic to decide what its default page_cache size should be, unless it's overridden with the build flag
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2498. # [20:41] <bent> mak, and i'd prefer to leave that logic up to sqlite for b2g
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2500. # [20:42] <bent> mak, so if I ifdef then I have to somehow guess what sqlite is going to decide
2501. # [20:42] <mak> bent: well that logic choose the wrong default on desktop, fwiw
2502. # [20:42] <tzimmermann> qDot: maybe some general overview of the bt system. like we had on the whiteboard
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2505. # [20:42] <mak> bent: according to our real world usage
2506. # [20:42] <qDot> tzimmermann: Oh, ok, of our own system. I don't think that ever got put on the wiki.
2507. # [20:42] <bent> mak, ok. i'll just do the easy thing
2508. # [20:42] <bent> mak, thanks!
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2510. # [20:43] <mak> bent: you're welcome... btw while here, did you have any chance to investigate that indexedDB thing with about:home?
2511. # [20:43] <bent> qDot, tzimmermann, it's on my list of things to do... there's just a lot of other things on that list too... :(
2512. # [20:43] <bent> mak, i didn't :(
2513. # [20:43] <tzimmermann> qDot: i was just wondering.
2514. # [20:44] <mak> bent: ok, was just asking :)
2515. # [20:44] <bent> mak, i'll try to do it today
2516. # [20:44] <tzimmermann> bent: sure.
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2552. # [20:58] <Amit_MSP> hello everyone...
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2562. # [21:05] <amiit> hello every one...
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2581. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6fea6e08fc0 - David Zbarsky - Bug 855597: Rename SVGTransform to nsSVGTransform r=jwatt
2582. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/042e4ad4ab01 - David Zbarsky - Bug 855597: Make things build r=me
2583. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/168ba3644e64 - David Zbarsky - Bug 855597: Make SVGTransform not inherit nsISupports r=longsonr
2584. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c082112e3737 - David Zbarsky - Bug 855597: Rename DOMSVGTransform to SVGTransform r=jwatt
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2625. # [21:43] <JonathanS> I think Boolean.TRUE is silly in Java
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2627. # [21:44] <jhammel|lunch> s/Boolean.TRUE // s/ in/:/
2628. # [21:45] <JonathanS> jhammel|lunch, weird sed
2629. # [21:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bf175669197 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 817586, bug 826639) for crashes and robocop failures.
2630. # [21:46] <jhammel|lunch> JonathanS: heh, indeed; i forgot completely how to do multiple sed commands
2631. # [21:46] <JonathanS> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/ViewConfiguration.html#hasPermanentMenuKey%28%29 is boolean while somebody assigned to Boolean
2632. # [21:46] <JonathanS> it
2633. # [21:46] <jhammel|lunch> not that i ever do any sed command other than 's'
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2638. # [21:49] <nemo> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=eddy-currents so. I wanted to view this embedded youtube, but don't have flash on this computer
2639. # [21:49] <nemo> I right click on the "no plugin" box, and choose "inspect"
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2641. # [21:49] <nemo> unfortunately no firebug here either
2642. # [21:49] <Waldo> I don't always use sed, but when I do, I use the command 's'
2643. # [21:50] <nemo> aaaaand the firefox dev tool shows the object... but not the <param>s
2644. # [21:50] <nemo> I assume that's a bug?
2645. # [21:50] <nemo> (latest nightly)
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2648. # [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44ef871e4dac - Dave Hylands - Bug 838038 - Pt 1 - Make volumes available to child processes. r=dougt
2649. # [21:50] <nemo> Waldo: heh. is kinda sad that I only used sed for that purpose, and awk to extract a field
2650. # [21:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bbe12adeb8a - Dave Hylands - Bug 838038 - Pt 2 - Add support for multiple device storage objects. r=dougt
2651. # [21:50] <@bz> nemo: looking
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2653. # [21:51] <nemo> sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' and awk '{print $1}' (or $NF)
2654. # [21:51] <nemo> ignoring 99% of the command
2655. # [21:51] <nemo> well. sometimes change the token param :)
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2658. # [21:51] <jhammel|lunch> nemo: nah, i support that use of sed ;)
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2660. # [21:52] <jhammel|lunch> i used to have the oreilly book, where they go about telling you how to write sed *scripts*!
2661. # [21:52] <jhammel|lunch> i've never really seen such a thing
2662. # [21:52] <nemo> :D
2663. # [21:52] <jhammel|lunch> awk, OTOH, is a perfectly respectively language
2664. # [21:52] <@bz> nemo: I have no idea why devtools are doing that...
2665. # [21:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f7d9ca669a8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 855990 - Part 2: Import the Kiss FFT library; license-r=gerv
2666. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93e66438fb71 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 855990 - Part 3: Integrate Kiss FFT with the build system; r=glandium
2667. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0c0b77f3022 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 855990 - Part 4: Send the buffer seen by AnalyserNodeEngine to AnalyserNode; r=padenot
2668. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5e56c43e359 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 855990 - Part 5: Implement the analysis routines of AnalyserNode; r=padenot
2669. # [21:53] <jhammel|lunch> oh great, now we're using fast fourier transforms by gene simmons
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2671. # [21:53] <@bz> nemo: looks like their handling of <object> is generally buggy
2672. # [21:53] <nemo> mm
2673. # [21:53] <jhammel|lunch> not even his real name, people!
2674. # [21:53] <froydnj> Waldo: what were your plans vis-a-vis Endian.h?
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2676. # [21:53] <@bz> nemo: you filing a bug, or should I?
2677. # [21:53] <nemo> bz: well. since you are offering :-p
2678. # [21:53] <Waldo> froydnj: I finish reviewing the tests, you land both of them, probably
2679. # [21:53] <Waldo> I'm maybe halfway through them now, I think
2680. # [21:54] <nemo> bz: btw, chrome's "pretty print" feature for JS is pretty nifty - almost makes up for fact that most of the unreadable JS out there is their fault :-p (well, until asm.js comes along :D )
2681. # [21:54] <froydnj> Waldo: OK, just checking to make sure the tests are the blocker at this point
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2683. # [21:54] <Waldo> froydnj: for some things I might not hold back, but this, well, seems kinda worthwhile being picky :-)
2684. # [21:54] <nemo> (on the subject of dev tools)
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2688. # [21:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/785dd64cc822 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 856344 - Fix getAllocKind() in TradeGuts (r=bhackett)
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2690. # [21:56] <jhammel> nemo: pff! that site doesn't even sell magnetic monopoles. what's the point?
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2693. # [21:56] <@bz> nemo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857262
2694. # [21:57] <nemo> jhammel: :)
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2696. # [21:57] <nemo> jhammel: I wanted a video of magnet film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j2d8HjgY2k - on youtube w/ HTML5 - stupid embedding of SWF...
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2699. # [21:58] <nemo> jhammel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keMpUaoA3Tg - a bit more viewable
2700. # [21:58] <nemo> (no film tho)
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2703. # [21:58] <Waldo> froydnj: while you're around, could you explain the "standardese is not clear" bit? seems like just typing NativeEndian:: a bunch of places would be more readable, and I'm not sure what the benefit of the current thing is
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2706. # [21:59] <jhammel> nemo: cute! :) (i don't have flash here either)
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2723. # [22:03] <SAvictim> can someone please suggest a channel where SQLAlchemy speakers might be?
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2725. # [22:04] <jdm> SAvictim: do you know if django uses that?
2726. # [22:04] <jdm> our webdev team uses django
2727. # [22:04] <jdm> otherwise I would recommend freenode
2728. # [22:04] <derf> ehsan: I think the better approach would be to get the Opus kiss FFT changes upstream :).
2729. # [22:04] <derf> Which bug is this, BTW?
2730. # [22:05] * SAvictim frowns
2731. # [22:05] <SAvictim> looks like they're competitors :(
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2733. # [22:05] <@ehsan> derf: bug 855990
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2735. # [22:05] <@ehsan> derf: who made those changes?
2736. # [22:05] <derf> ehsan: Mostly jmspeex.
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2738. # [22:05] <@ehsan> ok, I'll ask him how he feels about upstreaming those changes
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2744. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81d516cc6e36 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 856849 - Poison nsGlobalWindow::mJSObject when it's finalized (r=mrbkap)
2745. # [22:11] <RyanVM> ehsan: inbound bustage
2746. # [22:12] <@ehsan> dammit
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2752. # [22:13] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I'll fix it in place
2753. # [22:14] <froydnj> Waldo: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56152
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2755. # [22:14] <froydnj> Waldo: and the link to the C++ working group therein
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2764. # [22:18] <nemo> heh. I love the fuzz bugs
2765. # [22:18] <nemo> they find the most oddball stuff. and ofc there are all those fun bugs I can't view. so mysteeeerious. what new vulnerability in JS was found?
2766. # [22:19] <nemo> encourages me to leave noscript on
2767. # [22:19] <froydnj> Waldo: the upshot is that we can't say NativeEndian:theFunction<...> if we want to pass it as a function argument
2768. # [22:19] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676763 and the dependency lists are just amusing
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2770. # [22:19] <@ehsan> man
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2772. # [22:19] <@ehsan> I should create a bustage fix script to automatically bypass CLOSED TREE
2773. # [22:19] <@ehsan> what a pain :(
2774. # [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/581b88b27b2d - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 855990 followup: move TransferBuffer outside of the function because gcc is not a grown-up
2775. # [22:20] <@dveditz> nemo: large parts of the browser are implemented in javascript -- you're running it even if you do use NoScript :-)
2776. # [22:20] <nemo> dveditz: yes. true
2777. # [22:20] <nemo> dveditz: just harder to exploit
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2785. # [22:26] <khuey> bsmedberg: ping?
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2787. # [22:26] <bsmedberg> khuey: pong
2788. # [22:27] <khuey> bsmedberg: if we RegisterAppMemory do you know how to find that in the dump?
2789. # [22:27] <bsmedberg> khuey: normally you'd just use MSVC and have a pointer
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2791. # [22:27] <khuey> where do I get the pointer from?
2792. # [22:27] <bsmedberg> you can get a list of memory regions using breakpad
2793. # [22:27] <khuey> aha
2794. # [22:27] <bsmedberg> the stack, typically
2795. # [22:28] <bsmedberg> or an annotation, if this is some longterm annotation
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2807. # [22:32] <Waldo> froydnj: okay, done now; I will admit my eyes glazed over a bit on the *Sub methods and what they were doing :-)
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2810. # [22:33] <froydnj> Waldo: mine too!
2811. # [22:33] <Waldo> froydnj: also I have almost no idea how any of that PR applies to this situation, at a vaguely cursory read
2812. # [22:33] <Waldo> :-)
2813. # [22:33] <Waldo> if you want to put my link in the patch in addition to the gcc one, go ahead ;-)
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2815. # [22:35] <froydnj> :) I may do that
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2820. # [22:36] <khuey> bsmedberg: thanks
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2824. # [22:38] <tanvi> smaug: can you do a quick review for bug 855730. it just changes the order in which the tests run
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2839. # [22:46] <seth> what are the semantics of shutting down an nsIThreadPool?
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2841. # [22:46] <seth> in particular, does only the current task finish?
2842. # [22:47] <seth> or does everything that's already been dispatched to that thread pool finish, and you just can't dispatch new tasks?
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2845. # [22:48] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: ^?
2846. # [22:48] <bsmedberg> I have no clue
2847. # [22:49] <seth> heh OK
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2850. # [22:49] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: then does anyone? :-)
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2852. # [22:49] <devd> felipe|irccloud: can you take a look at the silly, small patch for Bug 850435? It shouldn't take you more than a minute to r+. Turns out someone copy pasted code and I missed it :(
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2858. # [22:53] <felipe|irccloud> devd: done
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2860. # [22:54] <devd> felipe|irccloud: thanks!
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2869. # [22:58] <@smaug> tanvi: done
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2871. # [22:59] <tanvi> smaug: thanks!
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2876. # [23:00] <spohl> seth: ping
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2880. # [23:02] <NeilAway> seth: dunno about a thread pool but a thread shuts down by receiving a shut down event dispatched to it, so it has to processes its queue first
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2884. # [23:05] <RyanVM> sriram: ping
2885. # [23:05] <jlebar> bent: ping
2886. # [23:05] <bent> jlebar, hey
2887. # [23:05] <jlebar> bent: hey
2888. # [23:06] <jlebar> bent: Do you know what's supposed to happen when we try to send a message over a closed AsyncChannel?
2889. # [23:06] <jlebar> bent: Is it supposed to simply raise an error?
2890. # [23:06] <bent> it normally prints that nasty message to stderr and just returns false i think
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2892. # [23:06] <jlebar> bent: There's some way to cause it to assert in debug builds, and maybe crash in release builds.
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2894. # [23:07] <bent> hm
2895. # [23:07] <bent> that doesn't sound good
2896. # [23:07] <jlebar> bent: At first, AssertWorkerThread() fails, because the thread variable has been cleared.
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2898. # [23:07] <jlebar> bent: But even if I work around that, we crash with a null pointer later on.
2899. # [23:07] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: I don't know if you've had time to look at it, but I got a build with --enable-debug and --enable-jemalloc to compile by also defining --enable-trace-malloc (haven't tried with --enable-dmd yet)
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2902. # [23:07] <jlebar> bent: i'll give you a stack; sec
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2905. # [23:08] <jlebar> bent: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2268423
2906. # [23:08] <jlebar> bent: that's with the assertion worked around.
2907. # [23:08] <bent> jlebar, wait, AssertWorkerThread is supposed to be asserting that we're running on the chromium IO thread
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2909. # [23:08] <jlebar> bent: Sure.
2910. # [23:08] <bent> not that the variable is non-null
2911. # [23:09] <jlebar> bent: well, the assertion fails if mWorkerThread is null.
2912. # [23:09] <jlebar> bent: Which happens after the channel is Clear()'ed.
2913. # [23:09] <bent> yeah, but you've got JS code running on the main thread there
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2915. # [23:09] <jlebar> bent: Yeah, I think AssertWorkerThread also does not do what you think.
2916. # [23:09] <bent> calling something that expects to only be running on the IO thread
2917. # [23:09] <jlebar> bent: Well, just look at the callstack; that doesn't seem wrong to me.
2918. # [23:10] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: oh, yeah, I forget to mention, my build with --enable-debug and --enable-jemalloc and --enable-dmd completed
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2920. # [23:10] <jlebar> bent: like, you're supposed to call PContentParent::SendWhatever() on the main thread, right?
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2924. # [23:11] <bent> yes... you said you worked around the assertion somehow?
2925. # [23:11] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: did you have --enable-trace-malloc in there? I noticed it in the m-c debug build mozconfig
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2927. # [23:11] <jlebar> bent: And mWorkerLoop is set in AsyncChannel::Open() which I believe is called from the ContentParent constructor.
2928. # [23:12] <jlebar> bent: (It's set to the current thread in AsyncChannel::Open())
2929. # [23:12] <NeilAway> ehoogeveen: no, I don't include other .mozconfig files
2930. # [23:12] <jlebar> bent: I worked around the assertion by creating a monotonically-increasing ID for message loops.
2931. # [23:12] <jlebar> bent: But anyway that was probably not the right thing to do.
2932. # [23:12] <ehoogeveen> NeilAway: strange that I seem to need it.. I don't think I'm doing anything nonstandard
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2934. # [23:14] <jdm> jlebar: I believe cjones was always a big proponent of failing hard when trying to use closed channels
2935. # [23:14] <bent> jlebar, i'm backwards, mWorkerLoop is not the IO loop
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2937. # [23:15] <bent> mWorkerLoop is the main thread
2938. # [23:15] <jlebar> bent: well, contratulations, you're the new owner. How do /you/ feel?
2939. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97cfc16ba5dc - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset ea2d05f0a053 (bug 856767) for robocop bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
2940. # [23:15] <jlebar> bent: Personally, falling over like this does not make much sense to me.
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2943. # [23:15] <bent> closed channels happen all the time when a child crashes
2944. # [23:15] <jlebar> bent: We closed the channel, possibly because of a crash, exactly.
2945. # [23:15] <bent> they're not supposed to take down the main process
2946. # [23:15] <jlebar> Perfect, we agree.
2947. # [23:15] <bent> now, on the child side, i think it is fatal
2948. # [23:16] <bent> but parent side cannot be
2949. # [23:16] <bent> so this is not supposed to happen
2950. # [23:16] <jlebar> Great.
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2952. # [23:16] <jlebar> As far as fixing it...
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2954. # [23:16] <spohl> seth: unping
2955. # [23:17] <jlebar> bent: It seems like I just need to bail earlier in the relevant methods?
2956. # [23:17] <jlebar> bent: But the trick is, I can't read Connected() until I have the monitor. And the monitor is cleared by Close().
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2958. # [23:18] <bent> hm
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2969. # [23:21] <jlebar> bent: Maybe we just shouldn't clear the monitor there.
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2971. # [23:22] <bent> jlebar, looks like we expect this possibility in the frame destructor
2972. # [23:22] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/RPCChannel.h#268
2973. # [23:22] <bent> but there are no such checks in the constructor
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2975. # [23:23] <jlebar> :)
2976. # [23:23] <jlebar> bent: what is CxxStackFrame used for?
2977. # [23:24] <bent> it's to keep track of which message you're supposed to be waiting on
2978. # [23:24] <bent> and to prevent responding to any other message that comes in in the meantime
2979. # [23:24] <bent> and to allow responding to a message that is in response to the previous rpc message
2980. # [23:24] <bent> it's a scary mess, but think reentrant plugin code
2981. # [23:24] <jlebar> bent: I see...okay.
2982. # [23:25] <jlebar> bent: In that case, checking mThat.mListener before the CxxStackFrame seems like the right thing.
2983. # [23:25] <jlebar> s/ seems/ constructor seems/
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2987. # [23:27] <bent> jlebar, i'd do something like this:
2988. # [23:27] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/SyncChannel.cpp#85
2989. # [23:27] <bent> oh, i see
2990. # [23:27] <bent> you can't
2991. # [23:28] <jlebar> I mean, I can just make mMonitor hang around. I don't see any reason to kill it.
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2997. # [23:28] <jlebar> bent: but I'm new to all this.
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3007. # [23:30] <bent> jlebar, plot thickens: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/AsyncChannel.cpp#390
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3012. # [23:32] <bent> jlebar, it looks like mListener is main-thread-only
3013. # [23:33] <bent> jlebar, so simply checking it (no need for monitor) should be fine from the main thread
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3015. # [23:33] <we11ington> Are there any neat tools that look for unused variables in JS?
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3017. # [23:35] <reuben> we11ington: http://www.jshint.com/, though using it on ecmascript > 1.6 is tricky
3018. # [23:35] <seth> do we have a compare and swap primitive in NSPR?
3019. # [23:35] <jlebar> bent: Can we add an mCleared / mClosed variable instead?
3020. # [23:35] <seth> (or somewhere we can use in gecko?)
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3022. # [23:35] <jlebar> seth: Ohboy do we.
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3024. # [23:35] <jlebar> seth: you probably want PR_ATOMIC*.
3025. # [23:36] <jlebar> seth: pratom.h
3026. # [23:36] <bent> jlebar, it's scary to me that we've never seen this before
3027. # [23:36] <jlebar> bent: Yeah
3028. # [23:36] <bent> i feel like i'm missing something
3029. # [23:36] <seth> jlebar: i checked there, but I don't see CAS; am I missing it?
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3031. # [23:36] <jlebar> bent: Tests.
3032. # [23:37] <bent> seth, i don't think we have CAS. We have atomic increment/decrement/set
3033. # [23:37] <seth> =(
3034. # [23:37] <jlebar> bent: but atomic set is like CAS...
3035. # [23:37] <bent> js used to have cas
3036. # [23:37] <jlebar> bent: Actually, isn't set the same as CAS?
3037. # [23:37] <jlebar> I guess not.
3038. # [23:37] <seth> jlebar: not really since it doesn't fail, does it?
3039. # [23:37] <jlebar> Yeah.
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3043. # [23:38] <seth> i'll make a bug requesting CAS
3044. # [23:38] <bent> seth, what's the need? out of curiosity
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3046. # [23:39] <seth> bent: avoid locking for a case where i basically just need to see "has this flag been set yet"?
3047. # [23:39] <bent> seth, why avoid locking?
3048. # [23:39] <seth> bent: locking will work fine but an atomic op would be cheaper
3049. # [23:39] <bent> is it showing up in profiles?
3050. # [23:40] <bent> like, hot paths?
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3052. # [23:40] <seth> well, image decoding
3053. # [23:40] <jlebar> I'm still confused why you can't use an atomic set.
3054. # [23:40] <jlebar> At the risk of sounding dumb...
3055. # [23:41] <jlebar> You have a lock variable, say 0 when unlocked, 1 when locked. You want to use CAS to take the lock?
3056. # [23:41] <bent> and i'd recommend just using a lock until you have a profile that shows it causing problems ;)
3057. # [23:41] <jlebar> But you can use atomic set to set it to 1, and if it was already 1, then you didn't take the lock successfully.
3058. # [23:41] <jlebar> seth: but also what bent said.
3059. # [23:41] <seth> jlebar: because it's not a lock, so those semantics are wrong
3060. # [23:42] <jlebar> seth: just trying to imagine the semantics that would make a difference.
3061. # [23:42] <seth> jlebar: i'll be happy to explain more later. i'm actually in a meeting right now =)
3062. # [23:42] <bent> seth, adding CAS to all our platforms will not be quick or easy
3063. # [23:42] <jlebar> bent: well, if you do it the NSPR way and use locks... :)
3064. # [23:42] <seth> bent: that's fine. obviously a lock will do the job
3065. # [23:43] <bent> seth, so in the interest of saving yourself headaches i'd go the lock route ;)
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3067. # [23:44] <anton> reuben: next version of jshint will have support for most mozilla extensions and some es6 features
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3070. # [23:44] <jcranmer> bent: I have CAS on all systems but msvc
3071. # [23:45] <bent> jcranmer, congratulations :)
3072. # [23:45] <jcranmer> bent: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732043
3073. # [23:45] <Waldo> seth: jcranmer has been working for awhile on atomic ops in mfbt; all that's needed (all) is Windows support of sorts
3074. # [23:45] <Waldo> ...and there he pops up :-)
3075. # [23:45] <jcranmer> if someone is willing to do the last ibt of work, I would be grteful
3076. # [23:45] <seth> jcranmer/Waldo: super!
3077. # [23:45] <jcranmer> here, I'll even upload what I have
3078. # [23:45] <Waldo> BY OUR POWERS COMBINED
3079. # [23:46] <reuben> anton: \o/
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3082. # [23:47] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: shouldn't windows be easyish since there isn't much reason to not say screw it and use x86 asm?
3083. # [23:48] <derf> I mean, you could also just steal stuff from libatomic_ops.
3084. # [23:48] <derf> It's MIT-licensed, and supports Windows.
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3086. # [23:48] <jcranmer> seth/Waldo/bent/tbsaunde: newer patch uploaded
3087. # [23:48] <tbsaunde> derf: or just pull the whole thing in if it isn't huge and most of its useful, but I've never looked at it
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3089. # [23:49] <derf> It's the stuff that lead to the C++11 atomics.
3090. # [23:49] <jcranmer> I even support the memory ordering of C++11 :-)
3091. # [23:51] <jcranmer> Waldo: I even have MSVC, but I haven't tested that at all
3092. # [23:51] <tbsaunde> derf: sounds like it probably would make a good fall back then :)
3093. # [23:51] <jcranmer> and I'm hoping tempates in MSVC work the way I hope to them
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3095. # [23:51] <jcranmer> meh, this uses compiler intrinsics on MSVC and gcc/clang or C++11
3096. # [23:51] <jcranmer> 0 assembly required
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3100. # [23:52] <derf> Don't the gcc intrinsics not work on all platforms, with no way to tell at compile time?
3101. # [23:52] <jcranmer> correct
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3103. # [23:53] <jcranmer> you'd get a link error, not a compiler error
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3105. # [23:53] <jcranmer> however, we're up to having C++11 atomic supports on everybody but B2g/gonk right now
3106. # [23:53] <jcranmer> and Windows
3107. # [23:53] <jcranmer> (which is also missing a slew of intrinsics)
3108. # [23:54] <jcranmer> the basic short answer is:
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3113. # [23:54] <jcranmer> mozilla::Atomic<uint32_t> and mozilla::Atomic<void*> should work on all platforms
3114. # [23:54] <jcranmer> for anything else, it probably won't
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3116. # [23:56] <tanvi> RyanVM: Hey Ryan. Do you know if this failure is from FF 21 or FF 22? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855730#c73
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3120. # [23:56] <tbsaunde> derf: features of only arm and x86{,_64} being tear 1 :)
3121. # [23:57] <tanvi> also asking bajaj
3122. # [23:58] <mwargers> smaug, ping?
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3124. # [23:58] <sfink> ted: ping
3125. # [23:58] <@smaug> mwargers: pong
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3127. # [23:58] <froydnj> sdks in some way, I'd imagine
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3131. # [23:59] <mwargers> smaug, about bug 788866, do you have a good solution? It seems to me that an app should get the focus on initial load, no?
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3134. # [23:59] <@smaug> mwargers: sounds like a bug in the test framework
3135. # [23:59] <IanN> anyone else having problems with pulling aurora?
3136. # [23:59] <@smaug> it should call focus() somewhere
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