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1. # Session Start: Fri Apr 05 00:00:00 2013
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8. # [00:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91de875536e8 - Seth Fowler - Bug 856486 (Followup) - Make sure we use the buffered frame, when appropriate, for all callers of GetDrawableImgFrame. r=me
9. # [00:03] <gps> jlebar: did you get an answer to the abs/rel path question?
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12. # [00:04] <jlebar> gps: no, actually.
13. # [00:04] <jlebar> gps: Maybe I should be fighting against gdb instead of the mozilla build.
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15. # [00:04] <jlebar> gps: because relative paths are good for ccache
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17. # [00:04] <gps> jlebar: CCACHE_BASEDIR
18. # [00:04] <gps> so what do you want to do?
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20. # [00:05] <jlebar> gps: gdb is having difficulty finding source files, and I haven't figured out a consistent way to get it to find them.
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22. # [00:05] <jlebar> gps: So I think if the files' debug info had absolute paths, I'd be in better shape.
23. # [00:05] <jlebar> gps: or I could figure out what the heck is wrong with my gdb.
24. # [00:06] <tbsaunde> jlebar: I've never had trouble when running gdb from $topobjdir fwiw
25. # [00:06] <gps> in your mozconfig, try something like k_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/obj-firefox
26. # [00:06] <gps> that's mk_add_options, of course
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28. # [00:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8daa66c443a3 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 853858: Move PeerConnectionTest instance reference into global scope r=jesup
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30. # [00:06] <jlebar> gps: I have mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/../debug
31. # [00:06] <jlebar> gps: Maybe it's ccache that's relativizing the paths?
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33. # [00:07] <jlebar> tbsaunde: it's weird; it used to work, and now it's cooky. Or maybe it has to do with child processes or something.
34. # [00:07] <gps> jlebar: weird. touch a .cpp file and run |make| by hand in the objdir. can you pastebin a compiler command?
35. # [00:07] <gps> so, we've been on a kick recently to try and force absolute paths inside the build system
36. # [00:08] <gps> we try to resolve topsrcdir/topobjdir at the top of the build system and work from there. if anything, it should be getting better!
37. # [00:08] <jlebar> gps: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2274307
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40. # [00:08] <gps> huh
41. # [00:08] <jlebar> gps: that is an absolute path to the src file.
42. # [00:08] <jlebar> Let's figure out how to see the debug info...
43. # [00:09] <gps> yeah.
44. # [00:09] <gps> /maybe/ the problem is -I adjustment is using $DEPTH?
45. # [00:09] <gps> $DEPTH is always expressed in terms of ../..
46. # [00:09] <jlebar> gps: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2274327
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48. # [00:10] <gps> that's not good
49. # [00:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d29304061c08 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 858136 - Rename nsIDOMSpeechSynthesisGetter as nsISpeechSynthesisGetter. r=smaug
50. # [00:10] * jlebar tries without ccache
51. # [00:11] <gps> jlebar: you should follow up with glandium. if anyone knows about what goes into the sections in the libraries, its him
52. # [00:12] <jlebar> gps: That's a good idea. Looking through the without-ccache result, there's a few other absolute paths, so maybe it is ccache that's the problem.
53. # [00:12] <jlebar> I can try and see.
54. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cbf2e118de6 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 857579 - Monitor ICGetIntrinsic_Fallback for when bailing Ion->Baseline during eager compilation. (r=djvj)
55. # [00:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1aa1dc84a1a4 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 857094. (r=sstangl)
56. # [00:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/273c69918d05 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 857846 - Deal with -0 in scatter. (r=nmatsakis)
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58. # [00:12] <glandium> jlebar, gps: what's the question?
59. # [00:13] <gps> relative paths in .debug_info (gdb can't find sources)
60. # [00:13] <jlebar> glandium: gdb is having difficulty finding my src files that are specified with relative paths, so I was wondering how to make them absolute.
61. # [00:13] <jlebar> But it could be a result of ccache.
62. # [00:14] <gps> there are a bunch of -I../../../content/foo in the compiler command (because $DEPTH I presume). I wonder if that is doing weirdness
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64. # [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8354b14f5036 - Yura Zenevich - Bug 753984 - added tests for an utterance order configurability. r=eeejay
65. # [00:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55985195ce90 - Yura Zenevich - Bug 753984 - added a preference for utterance order to make it configurable. Presenter context was moved to Utils and renamed to pivot context. Created a new method to
66. # [00:14] <jlebar> glandium: aha, without ccache, in objdump -d, I see my src file in the filename table has a dir with an absolute path.
67. # [00:14] <firebot> generate utterance for pivot context. Moved context utterance generation from Pivot(Presentation) to UtteranceGenerator. r=eeejay
68. # [00:14] * jlebar has no idea what these tables do, but they're different with and without ccache.
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70. # [00:16] <jlebar> glandium: gps: This is good enough for me; I know ccache and I know gdb, so I can hack on one of them to figure it out.
71. # [00:16] <sfink> jlebar: you don't have CCACHE_BASEDIR set?
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73. # [00:16] <jlebar> I'm just glad to see that it's not the mozilla build system.
74. # [00:16] <jlebar> sfink: I do, to /home/jlebar.
75. # [00:16] <sfink> oh, then at least that part makes sense
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77. # [00:17] <sfink> jlebar: did you read the part of the ccache man page where it talks about CCACHE_BASEDIR confusing gdb?
78. # [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1bddda508fe - Gregory Szorc - Bug 857984 - mach mochitest now colorizes and prints failure summary; r=Ms2ger
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82. # [00:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4170679cb85a - Dave Hylands - Bug 858034 - Make navigator.getDeviceStorage('') not crash when device storage is disabled. r=bent
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86. # [00:22] <ejpbruel> everybody stand back
87. # [00:22] <ejpbruel> i landed something in inbound again
88. # [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/429e15d02de3 - Eddy Bruel - Bug 846906 - Implement nsAppShellService::CreateWindowlessBrowser; r=bz; sr=benjamin
89. # [00:22] * ejpbruel runs
90. # [00:22] <philor> should I just close now?
91. # [00:22] <philor> save the waiting that way
92. # [00:23] <ejpbruel> philor: i ran it on try this time for good measure
93. # [00:23] <ejpbruel> no failing tests, should be fine
94. # [00:23] <philor> personally, I'm shocked it lasted this long, it's like everyone's forgotten how to break the build quickly
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96. # [00:24] <ejpbruel> pfftcht
97. # [00:24] <khuey> ejpbruel: why are you awake?
98. # [00:24] <ejpbruel> khuey: insomnia
99. # [00:24] <ejpbruel> khuey: its not that bad yet, 00:27 here
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101. # [00:25] <jesup> khuey/bsmedberg-away/bz/ehsan/dbaron: So, a bunch of things call mThread->Shutdown() (and I believe unlike when nsThreadManager calls it, outside of main shutdown). So nsThread::Shutdown() spins the event loop looking waiting for the target thread to shut down. Why can't this cause JS re-entrancy? Unless all the callers of ::Shutdown are guaranteed to not be called from within JS (and...
102. # [00:25] <jesup> ...perhaps they're not, but if there was some to assert this it would be nice...
103. # [00:25] <ejpbruel> khuey: why is everybody always so surprised about that? am I the only developer who has insomnia? :D
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105. # [00:25] <jesup> Maybe I'm missing something (hope so)
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107. # [00:26] <khuey> jesup: any code that calls nsThread::Shutdown needs to be able to handle the event loop spinning
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109. # [00:26] <jesup> So basically I'm right: don't do it in places that might cause re-entrancy
110. # [00:26] <khuey> right
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112. # [00:26] <wg9s> Has anyone else encountered an issue with building current mozilla-central using MSVC 9 results in a browser that crashes on startup even with a fresh profile, yet works if you start it in safe mode?
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114. # [00:27] <jesup> Is there some simple/semi-simple way to assert that?
115. # [00:27] <khuey> jesup: what do you see that looks sketchy?
116. # [00:27] <khuey> assert what exactly?
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118. # [00:28] <jesup> khuey: no, trying to design a deadlock-free shutdown setup for SIPCC threads (since it can use SyncRunnable to wait on mainthread)
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122. # [00:28] <jesup> assert we're safe not going to cause re-entrancy (which is I assume the same as "we weren't called from JS" or "we're in a stable state")
123. # [00:29] <wg9s> OH lonly crash info i have so far is that it is in mozjs.dll
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125. # [00:29] <khuey> I don't see how you could possibly assert that in a language like C++
126. # [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d68412295d0f - Eddy Bruel - Bug 858170 - Fix a NULL dereference in the debugger; r=jorendorff
127. # [00:29] <wg9s> this regressesed between the first nightly form yesterday and today's nightly.
128. # [00:30] <khuey> jesup: anyways there's no deadlock unless you try to shutdown the thread from that sync runnable, right?
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131. # [00:32] <jesup> khuey: sure we could, if there was a "AreWeInsideJS()" call :-) And the problem (in theory only since we currently only shut it down from within xpcom shutdown) is that the thread may be in a SyncRunnable() to us while mainthread is in pthread_jointhread() blocked
132. # [00:32] <jesup> This would be so we can shut it down on inactivity - which may be all we need to guarantee no re-entrancy
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135. # [00:33] <jesup> I'm just looking for a "when is it safe to call Shutdown()/spin the event loop" that's not a tautology of "when it's safe" ;-)
136. # [00:33] <jesup> bbiab
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138. # [00:34] <khuey> in code that won't have it's assumptions violated if that happens
139. # [00:35] <khuey> it's really hard to tell when it's safe ...
140. # [00:35] <khuey> anyways I don't understand the deadlock scenario here
141. # [00:36] <khuey> the main thread will spin it's event loop until it gets a roundtripped message from the dying thread
142. # [00:36] <khuey> and then it calls pthread_join
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145. # [00:36] <khuey> *its
146. # [00:37] <khuey> so there should be no way for there to be an outstanding SyncRunnable, unless you're running that when you call nsThread::Shutdown
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161. # [00:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24d4bd4b5fd7 - Seth Fowler - Bug 856486 (Followup 2) - Make sure we use the buffered frame, when appropriate, for all callers of GetDrawableImgFrame. r=me
162. # [00:47] <akeybl> bbondy: did you mean to set the relnote flag on bug 782211 back to ?
163. # [00:47] <akeybl> just checking before I go and 22+ it again
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167. # [00:49] <bbondy> akeybl: no
168. # [00:49] <bbondy> didn't mean to touch it
169. # [00:49] <bbondy> must have done it by accident or maybe bugzilla felt like setting it :)
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171. # [00:50] <akeybl> thanks
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180. # [00:51] <Luqman> so make is being difficult in dom/devicestore/test: Makefile:14: *** commands commence before first target. Stop.
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189. # [00:54] <khuey> Luqman: did you change the file?
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192. # [00:56] <we11ington> Awesome!
193. # [00:56] <Luqman> khuey: yes, though i've figured out why. just had to regenerate it from Makefile.in
194. # [00:56] <we11ington> The build is at -53 minutes on my Windows machine
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196. # [00:56] <we11ington> Its clock neglected to care about daylight savings so I just manually set it
197. # [00:56] <we11ington> And now it's at -53 minutes :D
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204. # [01:00] <bent> Mossop, ping
205. # [01:01] <Mossop> bent: pong
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207. # [01:02] <bent> Mossop, hi, can you sr+ this two-line thing? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2274399
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210. # [01:03] <bent> Mossop, it's in bug 857376 if you want to see the whole thing
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212. # [01:03] <bent> just figured it was tiny and easy ;)
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214. # [01:04] <Mossop> bent: sr+
215. # [01:04] <bent> Mossop, ty!
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238. # [01:25] <jcranmer> Jesse: I don't suppose you are going to try to actually implement a static analysis you file?
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240. # [01:27] <njn> I have this JS code: |(new Date()).toLocaleTimeString()| Is there a nicer way to say that?
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244. # [01:29] <Jesse> jcranmer: i'm not planning to
245. # [01:29] <jcranmer> :-/
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247. # [01:30] <Jesse> just noting the idea in case memshrink people or static-analysis people like it
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249. # [01:30] <tbsaunde> Jesse: what do you want to check for?
250. # [01:30] <njn> Jesse: ?
251. # [01:31] <Jesse> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858320
252. # [01:31] <Jesse> "Analysis to find unused struct members"
253. # [01:32] <tbsaunde> Jesse: I thought clang and maybe gcc? already did that
254. # [01:32] <njn> Jesse: clang already kind of does that
255. # [01:32] <Jesse> oh neat
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257. # [01:32] <Jesse> is that how ms2ger found https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851025 ?
258. # [01:32] <tbsaunde> as much as you can in a turing complete language anyway
259. # [01:32] <njn> Jesse: at least, it does "* It is never read."
260. # [01:32] <njn> not sure about the others
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262. # [01:33] <njn> Jesse: I've fixed some cases where we were assigning in the constructor but never doing anything else
263. # [01:33] <Jesse> i thought it would have to be a global (multiple compilation unit) analysis and so clang wouldn't do it
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266. # [01:34] <njn> Jesse: maybe it only works if the class isn't exported or something; not sure
267. # [01:34] <tbsaunde> Jesse: ok, it doesn't do it for public and maybe private things
268. # [01:34] <tbsaunde> s/private/protected/
269. # [01:34] <tbsaunde> Jesse: but you can do it for private ones if you see all the members of a class and its friends and whatever in one tu
270. # [01:36] <tbsaunde> Jesse: maybe clang with lto warns for more I'm not sure
271. # [01:37] <seth> so i'm a bit unclear as to how to make a fuzzy-if annotation correct the first time
272. # [01:37] <seth> say the failure reports "image comparison (==), max difference: 113, number of differing pixels: 124"
273. # [01:38] <seth> is it then correct to write "fuzzy-if(Android||B2G,113,124)"?
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276. # [01:41] <seth> couldn't figure out where this is documented, other than the original bug, which seems to mostly discuss a different syntax
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278. # [01:42] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: clang with lto won't warn since that kind of information is lost
279. # [01:42] <jesup> khuey|away: So that's the problem - apparently the SipCC thread can dispatch a SyncRunnable to MainThread while mainthread sends a message to the sipcc thread to die and then calls join. Deadlock since mainthread won't spin the event look in join. If we do the equivalent to nsThread::Shutdown and spin the loop, we're ok, if this doesn't cause reentrancy.
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281. # [01:42] <NeilAway> now that *was* weird
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283. # [01:42] <NeilAway> I did a search for 858328,858329 having just filed them both, and only one showed up ;-)
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286. # [01:43] <jcranmer> sounds like what happened to bz recently
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290. # [01:44] <Mahdi_> Hey, I want to take this bug > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421099; but I'm new to bug fixing, I want to know, what file is Location Bar located in? >_<
291. # [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/795e9ec338a7 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 856272; don't round our mask size too early so we get a proper transform for small surfaces. r=roc
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297. # [01:48] <philor> abr: looks like you've got Android bustage
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303. # [01:51] <tbsaunde> jesup: I'm confused, are you shutting down the Sipcc thread with something other than nsThread::Shutdown() currently? that just calls Dispatch() and immediately tries to Pthread_join()?
304. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba7609e95038 - Wes Kocher - Bug 858326 - Uplift Add-on SDK changeset 99d7f27c7e
305. # [01:53] <Waldo> seth: layout/tools/reftest/README?
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314. # [01:57] <ehoogeveen> njn: ping
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316. # [01:57] <njn> ehoogeveen: pong
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318. # [01:57] <ehoogeveen> njn: in an --enable-dmd build (on Windows), where is dmd.dll supposed to be?
319. # [01:58] <njn> ehoogeveen: I have no idea :/
320. # [01:58] <njn> ehoogeveen: is there even meant to be one?
321. # [01:59] <ehoogeveen> njn: the wiki page says to pass the path to it as an environment variable on the command line, but I can't find any such dll
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323. # [01:59] <njn> ehoogeveen: which wiki page?
324. # [01:59] <ehoogeveen> njn: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink/DMD
325. # [01:59] <njn> ehoogeveen: oh, I see
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327. # [01:59] <njn> ehoogeveen: can you just search for it?
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329. # [02:00] <tbsaunde> njn: dmd builds as a replace malloc thing right? then I'd really expect it gets a dll somewhere
330. # [02:00] <njn> ehoogeveen: I assume it's not in $OBJDIR/dist/lib
331. # [02:00] <ehoogeveen> njn: I did, but it's not called *dmd*.dll if it exists
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333. # [02:00] <njn> ehoogeveen: look in $OBJDIR/dist/lib for something similar? libdmd.dll?
334. # [02:00] <ehoogeveen> njn: let me load up my VM and have a look
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336. # [02:02] <ehoogeveen> njn: to get it to compile I needed to pass --enable-debug, which in turn required --enable-trace-malloc
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338. # [02:02] <njn> ehoogeveen: --enable-trace-malloc?!
339. # [02:02] <tbsaunde> ehoogeveen: you could also try looking in memory/replace/dmd/ I'm not sure that lib will get exported to dist/lib or dist/bin
340. # [02:02] <ehoogeveen> njn: I'd like to look into whether debug is strictly necessary on Windows but first I'd like to see it working at all :)
341. # [02:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7aecb38271b5 - Steve Workman - Bug 808402 - Make call to nsIPrompt::Alert from nsFtpState::StopProcessing async r=jduell a=lsblakk
342. # [02:02] <njn> ehoogeveen: --enable-debug isn't required on mac or Linux...
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344. # [02:02] <njn> ehoogeveen: and --enable-trace-malloc *really* shouldn't be needed
345. # [02:03] <tbsaunde> ehoogeveen: wtf --enable-debug dosn't require trace malloc on linux
346. # [02:03] <ehoogeveen> njn: without that, a build with --enable-debug and --enable-jemalloc (which --enable-dmd implies) failed on a linking error
347. # [02:03] <ehoogeveen> njn: trying to find malloc_usable_size
348. # [02:03] <njn> ehoogeveen: glandium's the one who knows about the malloc-replacement stuff
349. # [02:04] <njn> ehoogeveen: it sounds like the problem is at that level, if it's trying to find malloc_usable_size (which is a linux-only function)
350. # [02:04] <ehoogeveen> njn: Hmm. Oddly, NeilAway tried it and reported no problems (I don't know how our environments differ)
351. # [02:05] <njn> ehoogeveen: fun fun fun
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358. # [02:07] <ehoogeveen> njn, tbsaunde: no relevant looking dlls in $OBJDIR/dist/lib, and no replace directory in $OBJDIR/memory
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360. # [02:08] <ehoogeveen> njn, tbsaunde: there *are* dmd.h and dmd.cpp in src/memory/replace/dmd - should I try building those separately?
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363. # [02:11] <ehoogeveen> njn, tbsaunde: (though to be honest I'm not sure how to)
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365. # [02:11] <tbsaunde> ehoogeveen: no, it seems to me like your not actually building dmd
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369. # [02:13] <ehoogeveen> tbsaunde: that would explain a few things ... but I do have it in my .mozconfig
370. # [02:13] <seth> Waldo: belated thanks. that's exactly what i was looking for
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372. # [02:13] <Waldo> seth: pretty sure that's the canonical doc source, and that it remains up-to-date across changes
373. # [02:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4130427c313 - Ben Turner - Bug 857376 - 'Use 2k page_size for databases on B2G'. r=mak, sr=mossop.
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378. # [02:14] <seth> Waldo: cool. i saw a mention of it in the fuzzy-if bug, but i confused layout/tools/reftest with layout/reftests, didn't find it, and thought maybe the bug's info was out of date =)
379. # [02:14] <tbsaunde> ehoogeveen: looks like configure might sighlently disable it if you also have trace malloc enabled (wtf why doesn't it fail)
380. # [02:14] <Waldo> ah
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388. # [02:16] <ehoogeveen> tbsaunde: does that also disable jemalloc?
389. # [02:16] <jesup> tbsaunde: sipcc threads are pthreads not nsThreads (and the infamous nsThread leak was caused by XPCOM promoting non-nsThreads to nsThreads, which we now avoid by using SyncRunnable). sipcc's cprThreads have their own command queues, and one command is to exit - but if the sipcc thread is calling SyncRUnnable when Mainthread sends exit and does a join, we have a problem.
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391. # [02:17] <ehoogeveen> tbsaunde: that would explain why adding it also it stop complaining about malloc_usable_size (though not why it wanted that in the first place)
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393. # [02:18] <jesup> tbsaunde: And we have a few ways out of the problem; one of which is to spin the event queue while waiting for the sipcc thread to process the exit command (like nsThread::Shutdown does). But to use that except at XPCOM shutdown I need to know where it's safe, which is the same question one should ask for nsThreads
394. # [02:18] <ehoogeveen> er, also made it stop
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400. # [02:19] <jesup> tbsaunde: And per khuey, the answer to that question is... good question, "it's really hard to tell when it's safe ...", don't do it where it's not safe. :-(
401. # [02:20] <jesup> So how are current callers of nsThread sure they're safe? and how can someone adding a new nsThread know where it's safe to shut it down?
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404. # [02:20] <khuey> ideally you would shut the thread down at a point where there's nothing on the stack above you but the event loop
405. # [02:21] <khuey> that's the easiest way to know that it's safe
406. # [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/079495f97d60 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 856469 - Upgrade SQLite to version 3.7.16.1 (Mozilla changes). r=mak
407. # [02:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e311d250b6e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 856469 - Upgrade SQLite to version 3.7.16.1 (SQLite changes). r=mak
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410. # [02:24] <jcranmer> apparently bugzilla doesn't like letting me request two ui-r?
411. # [02:24] <bent> jesup, just post a runnable to the main thread that spins your event loop while your thread shuts down
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413. # [02:24] <jesup> khuey: sure. I was wondering a) if that's sufficient, and b) how do I check that (or verify statically that must be the case).
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416. # [02:25] <khuey> well if there's nothing else on the stack it's safe
417. # [02:25] <khuey> and you shutdown the thread off a runnable
418. # [02:26] <khuey> which doesn't do much else
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420. # [02:26] <khuey> jesup: e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/VideoUtils.h#112
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422. # [02:27] <bent> khuey, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsThreadPool.cpp#121 is better :)
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425. # [02:28] <philor> abr: and, when it feels like running tests, b2g too
426. # [02:30] <@dolske> tanvi: congrats on landing, hope it sticks!
427. # [02:30] <khuey> bent: heh
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429. # [02:31] <tanvi> dolske: thanks! me too!!
430. # [02:31] <mbrubeck> Anyone looking into this Android m4 orange yet?
431. # [02:31] <mbrubeck> ah, yes
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435. # [02:31] <tanvi> dolske: thank you, gavin and MattN for all your help with this! not to mention lco of course :)
436. # [02:32] * mbrubeck can back out abr
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439. # [02:33] <jesup> mbrubeck: what needs backing out and why? Is abr on; I thought he was away for the weekend
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441. # [02:34] <jesup> I can deal with any issues from his checkin(s)
442. # [02:34] <mbrubeck> jesup: I just backed out https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8daa66c443a3 because of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21448365&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
443. # [02:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b76be1ee5350 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 8daa66c443a3 (bug 853858) because of Android and B2G test failures
444. # [02:35] <jesup> mbrubeck: thanks
445. # [02:35] <mbrubeck> Now to deal with the PERMA-ORANGE MOTH! http://limpet.net/mbrubeck/images/2012/permaorange.jpg
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449. # [02:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08a717bd993a - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 7 - Remove function ListenSocketViaService(); r=mrbkap
450. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16108b4d0213 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 4 - Apply BluetoothSocket to BluetoothOppManager; r=mrbkap
451. # [02:36] <mbrubeck> nrc: looks like that one is you...
452. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76f4a2ff72d9 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 8 - Add BluetoothSocket* as an argument of callback functions in BluetoothSocketObserver; r=mrbkap
453. # [02:36] <qDot> Oh god damnit.
454. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a18acbecddaa - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 5 - Apply BluetoothSocket to BluetoothHfpManager; r=mrbkap
455. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ba6b7c64335 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 9 - Small misc fixes; r=mrbkap
456. # [02:36] <qDot> Well, I have learned the "never trust hg rebase" rule now.
457. # [02:36] <nrc> mbrubeck: looking...
458. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b22106f5492 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 3 - Replace (Bluetooth*Managers)->CloseSocket() with (Bluetooth*Managers)->Disconnect(); r=mrbkap
459. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6ad591545f5 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 6 - Apply BluetoothSocket to BluetoothScoManager; r=mrbkap
460. # [02:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8439b019d59b - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 2 - New Class: BluetoothSocket; r=mrbkap
461. # [02:36] <qDot> It just completely disappeared a patch
462. # [02:37] <mbrubeck> nrc: I have a backout prepped...
463. # [02:37] <jesup> khuey: Aha. So I take it the point was that if we're in a runnable (at least on mainthread), because we don't let mainthread recurse we can't be causing re-entrancy by calling nsThread::Shutdown (even though it spins teh event loop itself), right?
464. # [02:37] <jhammel> qDot: heh, i have hg wired to rebase; "to avoid being yelled at"
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466. # [02:37] <qDot> jhammel: Well, now I have 8 backouts to do.
467. # [02:37] <jhammel> that said, i operate all software with distrust
468. # [02:37] <nrc> mbrubeck: what is broken?
469. # [02:37] <qDot> Fuck. hg.
470. # [02:37] <jhammel> :(
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472. # [02:37] <nrc> mbrubeck: OS X oth?
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474. # [02:38] <mbrubeck> yeah
475. # [02:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db1838b65293 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 858339 - PhoneNumberJS: Fix colombian phone numbers without the leading +. r=bent
476. # [02:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1576f07a1d8b - Gregor Wagner - Bug 858330 - PhoneNumberJS: Fix chilean mobile numbers. r=bent
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479. # [02:38] <qDot> CAn I backout multiple commits at once?
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481. # [02:38] <DevHC> SM 2.17 fails compilation with a recent version of Clang, which may be due to a new Clang bug or a standard-conformant change in Clang
482. # [02:38] <DevHC> here's a small test case:
483. # [02:38] <mbrubeck> nrc: I'm going to go ahead with this backout for now.
484. # [02:38] <DevHC> namespace A { void f() { } }
485. # [02:38] <DevHC> namespace B { using namespace A; void g(); }
486. # [02:38] <DevHC> void B::g() { f(); }
487. # [02:39] <mbrubeck> qDot: Not with "hg backout" but there are various ways...
488. # [02:39] <nrc> mbrubeck: go for it, thanks
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491. # [02:39] <DevHC> a very recent Clang fails to find f() from inside the definition of g()
492. # [02:39] <mbrubeck> qDot: https://bitbucket.org/sfink/qbackout is probably the easiest
493. # [02:39] <jesup> mbrubeck: I see what happened with abr. The test framework hides where the block against running those tests on Android is.
494. # [02:39] <nrc> mbrubeck: I can't possibly imagine how I caused that, but I guess the logs don't lie...
495. # [02:39] <DevHC> is that standard-conformant?
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497. # [02:39] <jesup> I'll revise and take it over
498. # [02:39] <mbrubeck> thanks, jesup.
499. # [02:39] <qDot> Ok, well, someone might want to close the tree while I figure out how to do this. 'cause that bluetoothsocket push is gonna burn
500. # [02:40] <khuey> jesup: well by spinning the event loop you can only cause reentrancy to whatever is above you
501. # [02:40] <khuey> and if there's nothing above you on the stack ...
502. # [02:40] <mbrubeck> qDot: While I'm backing things out, I can back that out...
503. # [02:40] <qDot> mbrubeck: That'd be fantastic.
504. # [02:41] <mbrubeck> qDot: 9ba6b7c64335 and the rest of that push?
505. # [02:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca34eba9c8b6 - Matt Brubeck - Back out 795e9ec338a7 (bug 856272) because of test failures
506. # [02:41] <qDot> Yup, whole thing. hg rebase ate the first patch in it.
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511. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> ok, what needs to be done in order to actually run jit-tests on android?
512. # [02:42] <mbrubeck> qDot: done
513. # [02:42] <tbsaunde> jesup: ah, yeah makes sense (sorry was off at dinner)
514. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> because it is getting very annoying, since I seem to be the only person that ever actually runs jit-tests on arm.
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516. # [02:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03a6b2be2d61 - Matt Brubeck - Back out bug 851046 because of rebase problems
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520. # [02:44] * froydnj runs into lots of issues trying to make MOZ_ASSERT keep (but not evaluate) its arguments in non-DEBUG builds
521. # [02:44] <qDot> mbrubeck: Thanks! :)
522. # [02:44] * qDot tries again.
523. # [02:45] <tbsaunde> jesup: so, the other thing you could do is to have the Sipcc thread dispatch a non sync runnable to the main thread when it gets the die message so the main thread knows it can now join the Sipcc thread
524. # [02:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2418deea4b19 - Gregor Wagner - Bug 804623 - Permission Prompt Helper needs more access context to enable/disable permissions. r=sicking
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526. # [02:45] <tbsaunde> froydnj: "keep" I'm curious what you're doing
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529. # [02:46] <tbsaunde> jesup: though the dispatch runnable to main thread approach seems pretty reasonable other than maybe it'll prevent us adding asserts people aren't spinning nested event loops some day but whatever
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531. # [02:47] <mbrubeck> anyone else need to be backed out?
532. # [02:47] <mbrubeck> no?
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534. # [02:47] <froydnj> tbsaunde: there've been two instances this week with busted debug builds because the developers (one of whom was me) had invalid code inside MOZ_ASSERT and were only compiling opt
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536. # [02:48] <bent> developers not running debug builds...
537. # [02:48] <froydnj> tbsaunde: it'd be nice to avoid such trivial problems by turning MOZ_ASSERT into |DebugOnly<bool> x = false && expr;| in opt builds
538. # [02:48] <froydnj> *shrug* people do all kinds of stupid things
539. # [02:48] <cpeterson> I run optimized debug builds. the best of both worlds :)
540. # [02:48] <tbsaunde> froydnj: seems reasonable and useful
541. # [02:48] <bent> froydnj, we shouldn't encourage them though ;)
542. # [02:49] <froydnj> however, that violates a zillion assumptions made about how MOZ_ASSERT works
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544. # [02:49] <froydnj> well, ok, one assumption that occurs in a zillion places ;)
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546. # [02:50] <philor> nrc: one possibility is that your sin was being the first thing to not get a clobber after windowless browsers came into existence, three pushes below you
547. # [02:50] <cpeterson> froydnj: you can use MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(expr) if you want expr to be in release builds
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549. # [02:50] <qDot> Whoa. Ok, no, the commit hg lost was actually a commit with nothing in it, and rebase just didn't reapply it. And it gave me no error message. Huh. So, well, commit order was wrong at least.
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553. # [02:51] <nrc> philor: that seems more likely to me than my patch being broken. But I wouldn't be surprised by breaking anything really...
554. # [02:51] <tbsaunde> cpeterson: he doesn't want that, he just wants expr to be sytax checked and then optimized out
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557. # [02:52] <cpeterson> oh, I see. Of course, in this case, that would mean the MOZ_ASSERT(expr) would be syntactically correct but the assertion was not actually run.
558. # [02:52] <cpeterson> :)
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562. # [02:54] <froydnj> better to be syntax-checked on the developer's machine than on the builders
563. # [02:54] <froydnj> anyway, just compiling js/src shows that, to a first approximation, modifying every single file in the tree would be required
564. # [02:54] <tbsaunde> better for developers to use debug builds but sure
565. # [02:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8161280e740e - Seth Fowler - Bug 856602 - RasterImage::DecodeJob should not reschedule itself if it can't make progress. r=tn
566. # [02:55] <sfink> wouldn't it be simpler to do |if (false) { expr; } else {}| in opt builds?
567. # [02:55] <sfink> or maybe that's |if (false) { (void)(expr); } else {}| in opt builds?
568. # [02:55] <ehoogeveen> njn: so malloc_usable_size is forcibly enabled on Windows when building with jemalloc, because using _msize bypasses jemalloc (if I'm reading this correctly)
569. # [02:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e63cb4c3e063 - Dale Harvey - Bug 826058 - Hosted app install/update tests. r=fabrice, r=ted
570. # [02:56] <jesup> khuey: (and tbsaunde/bent) Right. The point I'd missed was that wrapping something in a runnable to mainthread guarantees JS at least isn't above you. (Could be someone else in an nsThread::Shutdown() I assume). Too bad there isn't a way to assert such a thing easily.
571. # [02:56] <njn> ehoogeveen: I'll take your word for it
572. # [02:56] <froydnj> sfink: ooo, that'd be better, yes. but that doesn't solve the issue of the bits that |expr| needs often being hidden behind |#ifdef DEBUG| :(
573. # [02:56] <sfink> oh. Yeah.
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575. # [02:57] <ehoogeveen> njn: see bug 719579 - it's enabled in sqlite's makefile. But the linker apparently can't find it when I use --enable-debug
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577. # [02:58] <njn> ehoogeveen: ugh, that stuff is a mess. glandium really is the one who understands all this
578. # [02:58] <ehoogeveen> njn: Okay, I'll ping him when I have time :)
579. # [02:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/503dea706f82 - Seth Fowler - Bug 857367 - Make it safe to call RasterImage::DecodePool::RequestDecode off the main thread. r=tn
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582. # [03:02] <bent> jesup, yeah, not a guarantee really... it's just nice to know that if it ever causes a problem it's someone else's fault :)
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592. # [03:05] <tbsaunde> bent: so, I wonder how often we absolutely need to shutdown the thread sync, and if it would be useful to add a async nsThread::ShutdowAsync(), obviously you can't use it at shutdown but
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594. # [03:06] <mjrosenb> philor: ping?
595. # [03:06] <philor> mjrosenb: pong
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597. # [03:06] <jesup> bent: so nsThread::Shutdowns can stack (and other things that use this trick to call methods that spin the event loop). The hope is that none of those can interact badly. Hmmm... Seems like a test/trap would be possible. Set a member var in nsThread when executing JS code (or any other code that Cannot be allowed to recurse/spin the loop), and check that flag in the event loop
598. # [03:07] <mjrosenb> philor: you are the tbpl-master... do you know who I need to talk to about actually getting jit-tests (e.g. make check) running on android?
599. # [03:07] <jesup> If anyone tries to write code that will break the reentrancy guarantee, it will assert/etc
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601. # [03:07] <mjrosenb> philor: or really, any arm variant.
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603. # [03:08] <philor> mjrosenb: like "I've made sure the tests work, and I just need releng to start running them" or like "I want someone to want to make 'make check' work on android"?
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605. # [03:09] <mjrosenb> philor: the latter.
606. # [03:09] <philor> or I guess there's a third variant, "I know jit-tests work, I doubt the rest of make check does"
607. # [03:09] <philor> ah
608. # [03:09] <philor> ha
609. # [03:09] <mjrosenb> philor: i'm constantly in the first part of the former.
610. # [03:09] <mjrosenb> philor: and people keep changing that.
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615. # [03:11] <tbsaunde> jesup: its worth a shot
616. # [03:11] <khuey> jesup: well it doesn't guarantee that ...
617. # [03:12] <khuey> jesup: if someone else is already spinning the event loop
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619. # [03:12] <khuey> jesup: but that's their problem, not yours
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627. # [03:15] <jesup> It guarantees that anyone who's not reentrant can't get re-entered. Perhaps Increment the flag on entry, decrement on exit (so that it can directly call other code that also blocks recursion, but still assert on event-spin attempts)
628. # [03:15] <bz> khuey: you know anything about our JS parenting setup?
629. # [03:16] <bz> khuey: or should I really wait for peterv/bholley?
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631. # [03:17] <philor> mjrosenb: I guess who you need to talk to is terrence or sfink, about making jit-tests run both as part of make check and also separately as a packaged suite
632. # [03:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2edc2af0ec32 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 858304: Fix 2 signed/unsigned comparison warnings in QuartzSupport.mm. r=smichaud
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634. # [03:20] <philor> mjrosenb: or sfink about how to get started towards installing an ARM emulator on the Linux buildslaves that do the Android builds, though I vaguely remember someone having some reason why that couldn't easily be done
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643. # [03:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3f5fa4c5fc9 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 2 - New Class: BluetoothSocket; r=mrbkap
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645. # [03:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26f388aeced9 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 7 - Remove function ListenSocketViaService(); r=mrbkap
646. # [03:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d5a3e86a843 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 6 - Apply BluetoothSocket to BluetoothScoManager; r=mrbkap
647. # [03:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7a3e3a4e534 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 4 - Apply BluetoothSocket to BluetoothOppManager; r=mrbkap
648. # [03:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4530d1c784f3 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 5 - Apply BluetoothSocket to BluetoothHfpManager; r=mrbkap
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650. # [03:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5f2678e1cc8 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 9 - Small misc fixes; r=mrbkap
651. # [03:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc1c1298bd85 - Eric Chou - Bug 851046: Patch 3 - Replace (Bluetooth*Managers)->CloseSocket() with (Bluetooth*Managers)->Disconnect(); r=mrbkap
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654. # [03:25] * qDot hopes this is the last time.
655. # [03:25] <qDot> Except for the fact I have to port it to b2g18 now.
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659. # [03:26] <mjrosenb> philor: so I think we'd need to change jit-tests to get it to run as a packaged suite on android.
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662. # [03:28] <khuey> bz: I really doubt I know anything you don't
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667. # [03:29] <mjrosenb> khuey: I bet you know your debit card's PIN number, and bz doesn't.
668. # [03:30] <bz> khuey: ok
669. # [03:30] * jhammel knows khuey's PIN
670. # [03:30] <mjrosenb> khuey: I can mediate this knowledge check.
671. # [03:30] <bz> khuey: I thought I understood it, but now we have orphanages and a whole social safety net for wrappers
672. # [03:30] <bz> khuey: so... ;)
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675. # [03:31] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> Looks like I need to back out bug 833795 in order to fix bug 856083.
676. # [03:32] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> I'm not sure how to back that out of b2g18 and v1.0.1
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679. # [03:33] <khuey> bz: lol
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707. # [04:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/011194378653 - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 3) - Use ClippedImage instead of ExtractFrame for -moz-image-rect. r=bz
708. # [04:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79cfda08fdbb - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 4) - Use ClippedImage instead of ExtractFrame for border-image. r=bz
709. # [04:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/521215a7b32e - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 1) - Add ClippedImage. r=joe
710. # [04:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/051cf1c1449c - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 5) - Remove imgIContainer::ExtractFrame. r=joe, sr=bz
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748. # [04:38] <philor> nrc|afk: if you want to reland your patch that was backed out, go ahead, I don't see any evidence that you were anything but a victim of a previous patch that needed a clobber
749. # [04:39] <philor> khuey: if you want to reland your patch that was backed out, you just need to figure out why the windowless browser patch required a clobber and fix that
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751. # [04:39] <nrc> philor: thanks, shall do in a few minutes
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754. # [04:41] <khuey> philor: I got what I needed from the one orange
755. # [04:42] <philor> damn!
756. # [04:42] <khuey> philor: how come I have to figure out the build system and nrc doesn't?
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758. # [04:42] <philor> peerage has its responsibilities
759. # [04:42] <khuey> heh
760. # [04:42] <khuey> what cset was this?
761. # [04:43] * philor scrolls down into the 30s
762. # [04:43] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/429e15d02de3
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767. # [04:43] <khuey> interesting
768. # [04:44] <khuey> I'll take a look at it tomorrow
769. # [04:44] <philor> also landed earlier today, got backed out, that cset is way way down the page
770. # [04:44] <khuey> I should probably finish fixing the dom/bindings crap first though
771. # [04:44] * khuey sighs
772. # [04:44] <khuey> so much brokenness
773. # [04:44] <philor> yep
774. # [04:45] * philor opens ?tree=mozilla-esr17, just for a minute
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776. # [04:45] <khuey> basking in the green glow?
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778. # [04:46] <bz> man
779. # [04:46] <philor> I would have been, but it mocked me with an unstarred jit-test assertion
780. # [04:46] <bz> reviewing docshell patches just makes me want to type PRUint32
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782. # [04:47] <bz> Is ToNewUTF8String infallible?
783. # [04:47] * bz bets not
784. # [04:47] <bz> er, I bet it is
785. # [04:48] <tbsaunde> its the sign that an API should be fixed probably
786. # [04:48] * philor wonders just how important to our strategy testClickingALinkMadeUpOfNumbersIsHandledCorrectly is
787. # [04:48] <bz> heh
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791. # [04:50] <philor> if you're going to fail more than 15 times a day, having a test name that doesn't sound stupid and pointless is probably a good idea
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793. # [04:50] <khuey> testSuperCriticalInfrastructure failing 15 times a day sounds pretty bad too
794. # [04:51] <cpeterson> testLifeSupport UNEXPECTED-TEST-FAIL
795. # [04:52] <khuey> I'm having terrible visions of a medical device company dealing with their intermittent unit test failures
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797. # [04:53] <philor> heh
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799. # [04:53] <philor> "eh, it's probably just a flaky test, shipit"
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1119. # [05:06] <bz> Who's a good reviewer for sessionstore bits?
1120. # [05:07] <bz> zpao's bugzilla name says he's not around much....
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1124. # [05:10] <Callek> firebot: review bz's patch
1125. # [05:10] <firebot> Callek: Sorry, I've no idea what 'review bz's patch' might be.
1126. # [05:10] <Callek> guess not him
1127. # [05:12] <Waldo> bz: possibly mak77? his was the last name pointed at me for sessionstore stuff
1128. # [05:12] <bz> Waldo: Thanks
1129. # [05:12] <Waldo> speaking of which, I need to flag him down to make progress on bug 794323
1130. # [05:12] * Waldo wonders if anyone's in charge of making decisions about sessionstore upgrading and backward compatibility
1131. # [05:13] <Waldo> probably nobody
1132. # [05:13] <Waldo> thus was it ever
1133. # [05:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91ac668eeace - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 856272; don't round our mask size too early so we get a proper transform for small surfaces. r=roc
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1135. # [05:16] <philor> well, Simon was
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1137. # [05:16] <Waldo> Simon as in zeniko?
1138. # [05:17] <philor> at least, I think that was his name
1139. # [05:17] <Waldo> you're going way back into the vaults there, I can't remember having seen him around since barely after sessionstore landed, ish, ish
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1141. # [05:17] <Waldo> which is probably partly me following app bugs less and platform bugs more, but still
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1146. # [05:23] <njn> document.body isn't defined in my chrome mochitest... hmm
1147. # [05:23] <bz> It's on HTMLDocument
1148. # [05:23] <bz> so...
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1153. # [05:27] <njn> bz: can you spell it out a little bit more for me? pretty please? :)
1154. # [05:27] <bz> Oh, sorry
1155. # [05:27] <bz> if you have a chrome mochitest
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1157. # [05:27] <bz> and it's a .xul file?
1158. # [05:28] <aja> wassup w/sessionstore?
1159. # [05:28] <bz> Then you get a XULDocument
1160. # [05:28] <bz> njn: but .body is a property on HTMLDocument....
1161. # [05:28] <bz> njn: so no .body
1162. # [05:28] <bz> aja: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=731641&action=edit
1163. # [05:28] <aja> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855452 <- asking cuz of this
1164. # [05:28] <njn> bz: I just want to add an element to the "page"
1165. # [05:29] <bz> njn: what does your "page" look like?
1166. # [05:29] * bz looks it up
1167. # [05:29] <njn> bz: a lot like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/aboutmemory/tests/test_aboutmemory3.xul
1168. # [05:30] <bz> You could just add it under document.documentElement
1169. # [05:30] <bz> Or under document.querySelector("body") if you really want it under the <html:body>
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1171. # [05:30] <njn> bz: I don't care where it goes, so long as document.getElementById() will find it
1172. # [05:31] <bz> yeah, just put it under document.documentElement
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1174. # [05:31] * bz declares victory
1175. # [05:31] <bz> This is the first time in ....
1176. # [05:31] * bz is not even sure how long
1177. # [05:31] <halfie> I can't access "about:startup" feature. Was it disabled recently?
1178. # [05:31] <bz> At least a year. :(
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1180. # [05:33] <derf> 23:33:36 * bz declares victory over our proxy API
1181. # [05:34] <derf> January 8th this year.
1182. # [05:34] <bz> ah, heh
1183. # [05:34] <bz> this isn't the first time declaring victory
1184. # [05:34] <tbsaunde> bz: victory over what?
1185. # [05:34] <bz> This is the first time a query in bugzilla for bugs that have a request on me returns " Zarro Boogs found. "
1186. # [05:34] <bz> First time in a while, that is.
1187. # [05:34] <bz> no review requests, no needinfo, nothing. ;)
1188. # [05:35] <bz> It's _such_ a nice feeling
1189. # [05:35] <derf> Yes.
1190. # [05:35] <bz> I'm savoring it for the hour or two it will last. ;)
1191. # [05:35] * khuey goes to switch some review requests
1192. # [05:35] <tbsaunde> yeha
1193. # [05:35] <bz> khuey: heh, but yes
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1195. # [05:35] <bz> khuey: bring it on
1196. # [05:35] <bz> khuey: esp. because yours tend to be sane
1197. # [05:36] <njn> bz: does this look right? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2274858
1198. # [05:36] <bz> njn: yes
1199. # [05:37] <bz> njn: well
1200. # [05:37] <bz> njn: no
1201. # [05:37] <bz> njn: Try createElementNS("http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml", "iframe")
1202. # [05:37] <bz> njn: Otherwise you get a xul:iframe, which does not have a .src
1203. # [05:38] <bz> njn: or a .height, I bet
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1205. # [05:38] <njn> bz: createElementNS is undefined
1206. # [05:39] <bz> it is?
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1208. # [05:39] <bz> That's ... quite odd
1209. # [05:39] <bz> Oh, it's on document, of course
1210. # [05:39] * bz sort of assumed that part was already there, sorry
1211. # [05:39] <bz> so document.createElementNS("http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml", "iframe")
1212. # [05:40] <halfie> I can't access "about:startup" feature. Was it disabled recently? <== #build guys told me to ask here. Running 19.0.2 on Linux on AMD64
1213. # [05:41] <njn> bz: success! many thanks
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1216. # [05:42] <jcranmer> bz: ping
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1218. # [05:43] <tbsaunde> bz: wait, did you just offer to do build system reviews? ;)
1219. # [05:43] <bz> tbsaunde: no
1220. # [05:43] <bz> njn: no problem
1221. # [05:43] <Waldo> bz: I haven't been at zero since last July, looking forward to getting there real soon now (I'm only at six, and a few of those should be easily dispatched when I get to them)
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1224. # [05:44] <bz> Waldo: good, good. ;)
1225. # [05:45] <jcranmer> I haven't been at 0 since december
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1230. # [05:54] <philor> poor seth, pushed to try at 16:45, by the time he landed at 19:07 someone had already undermined him
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1238. # [06:01] <tbsaunde> philor: what's broken?
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1242. # [06:02] <philor> tbsaunde: just android reftest-2, that I know of
1243. # [06:02] <tbsaunde> oh, can't help him there
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1245. # [06:05] <jcranmer> hey
1246. # [06:05] <jcranmer> GB18030 supports all of Unicode?
1247. # [06:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c45dbd81a32 - Phil Ringnalda - Backout 051cf1c1449c:521215a7b32e (bug 826093) for Android reftest failure
1248. # [06:05] <jcranmer> congratulations, I am now including a test that our charset converters can properly support non-BMP characters even if they aren't UTF-*
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1291. # [06:55] <RattyAway> glandium: If you're around I've filed a regression bug: Bug 858393 - "OSError: [Errno 17] File exists: <random file>" supposed to have been fixed by Bug 747393
1292. # [06:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b50f98dee91 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 850090. Don't assert things about our stylesheets during unlink, since our state can be kinda inconsistent then. r=smaug
1293. # [06:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8396d7543197 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 857645. Make it possible to copy-initialize an nsCOMPtr<T> from an already_AddRefed<U> as long as U inherits from T. r=ehsan
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1295. # [06:56] <bz> Let the world rebuild begin
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1304. # [07:04] <jcranmer> bz: try changing nscore.h and configure.in in your patch queue and keep pushing/popping that patch off
1305. # [07:04] <firebot> Check-in:
1306. # [07:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaae69fde562 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 369180: override nsIAuthPromptProvider implementation on search suggestion callbacks to avoid proxy authentication dialog popping up while entering text in the search
1307. # [07:05] <firebot> bar, r=mayhemer
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1309. # [07:06] <bz> jcranmer: mmm... will ccache not save me?
1310. # [07:07] * jcranmer has no idea
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1324. # [07:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc159983a018 - Anthony Jones - Backout 8a6cacf047a1 (bug 833795) to fix bug 856083
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1331. # [07:21] <philor> bz_sleep: busted
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1334. # [07:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fc33d047ed6 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 8396d7543197 (bug 857645) for build bustage
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1339. # [07:30] <heycam> I wish warnings-as-errors were warnings-as-warnings but make the builds look orange on try :(
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1341. # [07:31] <philor> ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-REALLY-LOUD-WARNINGS
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1346. # [07:35] <tbsaunde> heycam: wouldn't that be even worse since there'd be no obvoius way to know your build would fail on tbpl?
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1348. # [07:35] <heycam> tbsaunde, as long as the build letter goes orange/underlined...
1349. # [07:36] <heycam> tbsaunde, I just don't want to have to re-push to test out my functionality when the build conked out just due to a warning like "variable declared but never used"
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1354. # [07:42] <tbsaunde> heycam: oh, you mean on try I see
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1356. # [07:42] <tbsaunde> that makes sense
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1359. # [07:43] <tbsaunde> infact it would make sesne for all trees to reduce build bustage, but then I'd prefer we just didn't do the whole thing so
1360. # [07:43] <heycam> good point; it would be fine on inbound too
1361. # [07:43] <heycam> at the risk of wasting some test machine time when you inevitably have to land the warning fix
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1371. # [07:52] <tbsaunde> heycam: yeah, it would wast some time on the other hand it would mean that we wouldn't have as many revisions that don't have builds at all which would make it much simpler in some cases to know what caused other bustage
1372. # [07:53] <tbsaunde> which I suspect would make the sherriffs happy, and be a good idea
1373. # [07:53] <heycam> tbsaunde, that's true
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1404. # [08:29] <heycam> rhino replacement
1405. # [08:30] <heycam> I see names like "Attila Szegedi" and "Hannes Wallnoefer" in the mailing list archives; wonder if rhino is dead
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1425. # [08:50] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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1447. # [09:06] <JonathanS> do we uses nsAutoXPTCStub?
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1453. # [09:11] <Ms2ger> JonathanS, yes, nsXPCWrappedJS inherits from it
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1455. # [09:11] <JonathanS> Ms2ger, that be only caller for it
1456. # [09:12] <Ms2ger> Looks like it
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1487. # [09:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbad31208ebd - Ms2ger - Revert to changeset 4c45dbd81a32 to fix mochitest-chrome orange.
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1489. # [09:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72e02f2e3521 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - am Ramasubramanian <sriram@mozilla.com>
1490. # [09:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/841a0c51f991 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 848719: TabsButton will have curve only one side. [r=mfinkle] [needs-clobber]
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1522. # [10:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/052ef269b9c3 - Alexandre BM - Bug 850987 - RenderedToContentOffset/ContentToRenderedOffset should return an offset unchanged for HTMLTextFieldAccessible, r=tbsaunde, f=surkov
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1529. # [10:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b48c78488fce - Markus Stange - Bug 853488 - Styling tweaks for Mac XUL notification alerts. r=dolske
1530. # [10:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acd478e0bd55 - Markus Stange - Bug 849157 - Keep calling drawUsingOpenGLCallback even when a native menu is open. r=bgirard
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1546. # [10:42] <Gijs> Hrm, is there an mq equivalent for "hg status" ? So for working dir changes I use hg diff, for mq changes I use qdiff; for working dir changes I use hg status, for mq changes I use... ?
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1548. # [10:44] <Ms2ger> hg qdi --stat?
1549. # [10:44] <Ms2ger> Not exactly hg status, but may be helpful
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1551. # [10:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f134e2c4bb2a - David Zbarsky - Bug 856962: Move Touch to its own file r=Ms2ger
1552. # [10:46] <NeilAway> Gijs: well, qdiff is a bad example, it's the same as hg diff -r-2:-1
1553. # [10:46] <Gijs> Ms2ger: yeah, that's what I used before getting a response...
1554. # [10:47] <Gijs> NeilAway: I'm sure this is a dumb question, but why does that make it a bad example?
1555. # [10:47] <NeilAway> Gijs: maybe I don't understand what you're trying to achieve from "hg qstatus"
1556. # [10:48] <Gijs> "which files does the last patch of my applied patches touch"
1557. # [10:48] <Gijs> (from your explanation, I have now deduced: hg status --change -1)
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1559. # [10:50] <NeilAway> Gijs: ah, neat
1560. # [10:50] <NeilAway> Gijs: but what I was trying to get at, is that you have to think of your mq as a temporary commit
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1562. # [10:51] <Gijs> Sure, I know. In this case, I had a patch for bug 851701, and wanted one for bug 851702, and knew I'd have to touch exactly the same files.
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1564. # [10:51] <Gijs> (apropos, am I right in thinking these strings are long obsolete: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/browser/preferences/content.dtd?mark=20,21 )
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1566. # [10:52] * Gijs doesn't think we've had a checkbox for that for a long time, and lxr is turning up nothing
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1569. # [10:54] <Ms2ger> LXR? You're really old ;)
1570. # [10:54] <Gijs> I'm not, actually!
1571. # [10:54] <Gijs> But yes, I've been around here for a while.
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1573. # [10:55] <Gijs> So my quick bookmarks are still "lxr", but they point to mxr.
1574. # [10:55] <Gijs> muscle memory and all that.
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1578. # [10:57] <NeilAway> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/components/preferences/content.xul#10
1579. # [10:57] <SDUP> when i debug my app in microsoft visual debugger, i've got alignment memory issue : the debugger tells me it returned a value (10) but the variable inspector sees the value as null or wrong values (0 or -151515697)
1580. # [10:57] <NeilAway> Gijs: oh wait, I didn't see your &mark
1581. # [10:58] <SDUP> did it happen to someone here already ?
1582. # [10:58] <NeilAway> Gijs: yeah, that's long gone
1583. # [10:58] <SDUP> i'm using a fork of Fx 14
1584. # [10:58] <Gijs> NeilAway: cool, I'll drop the strings, too, then.
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1586. # [10:58] <KWierso|Home> Gijs: killed in bug 506985, fwiw
1587. # [10:58] <SDUP> my machine is a x86 win7 32 bits
1588. # [10:58] <NeilAway> Gijs: these days it's just a plugin and doesn't need any special code
1589. # [10:59] <Gijs> (in other news, it's not at all confusing that there are strings there id'd "exceptions.label" (used for image load exceptions) which you think they'd reuse, except then for the other exceptions buttons they created new labels...)
1590. # [10:59] <NeilAway> KWierso|Home: nice work
1591. # [11:00] <KWierso|Home> NeilAway: what else should I be doing at 2am? ;)
1592. # [11:00] <NeilAway> Gijs: different access keys...
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1594. # [11:00] <Gijs> KWierso|Home: nice. I like the whiteboard. :)
1595. # [11:00] <NeilAway> (localisers prefer labels and accesskeys in pairs)
1596. # [11:00] <Gijs> Ah, yeah. Well, I mean, it's defensible that there are different strings anyway from an l10n perspective, but then the label could have been more descriptive.
1597. # [11:01] * Gijs shrugs
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1600. # [11:01] <Gijs> s/label/string id/
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1607. # [11:07] <firebot> Check-in:
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1610. # [11:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bf86554e74a - Mihai Sucan - Bug 853568 - Fix for intermittent browser_webconsole_bug_599725_response_headers.js | we do not have the Content-Type header | Content-Length != 60 - Didn't expect 60, but
1611. # [11:07] <firebot> got it; r=vporof
1612. # [11:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3552a2a5faf7 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 809424 - Fix for intermittent browser_webconsole_bug_611795.js | The unknown CSS property warning is displayed only once - Got 1, expected 2; r=vporof
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1630. # [11:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/305ce1b73071 - Jacek Caban - Bug 858006 - Make binaries large address space aware on mingw builds. r=glandium
1631. # [11:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c99b61f740d7 - Jacek Caban - Bug 856566 - Fixed crashreporter compilation and profiler on mingw. r=ted
1632. # [11:30] <Gijs> So let's say I want to browse the state of the CVS repo at a given date... does bonsai or anything else let me do that?
1633. # [11:30] <Gijs> (yes, I really mean CVS :( )
1634. # [11:30] <padenot> you could use ehsan's git repo
1635. # [11:31] <padenot> Gijs: https://github.com/ehsan/mozilla-history/
1636. # [11:32] <@smaug> Gijs: you really need that?
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1640. # [11:32] <@smaug> I would use mxr + cvs blame
1641. # [11:32] <Gijs> I did if I wanted to ask the following pop quiz question: how long do you think the advanced-scripts preference dialog has included a non-existing JS file? :)
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1644. # [11:33] <Gijs> (I've sort of given away how bad it is by now, haven't I?)
1645. # [11:33] <@smaug> ah, you want to see when something was removed
1646. # [11:33] <Gijs> smaug: afaict cvs blame (bonsai) doesn't let me browse a given state of CVS :(
1647. # [11:33] <Gijs> mm
1648. # [11:33] <@smaug> well, the state is per file
1649. # [11:33] <Gijs> padenot: that was very helpful, thanks!
1650. # [11:33] <@smaug> bonsai has attic
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1652. # [11:34] <Gijs> Right, I know that, hence the "by date" in my question
1653. # [11:34] <@smaug> for normal cases (cvs) bonsai is just way better than anything else we have
1654. # [11:35] <Gijs> smaug: attic?
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1657. # [11:36] <@smaug> stuff like http://bonsai.mozilla.org/rview.cgi?dir=mozilla/content/base/src/Attic&cvsroot=/cvsroot&module=default
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1660. # [11:41] <Gijs> Ah, useful!
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1662. # [11:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0a75bdaa01e - Simone Carletti - Bug 857497 - reorder private part of PSL into alphabetical order by company. r=gerv.
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1671. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, yt?
1672. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> I guess Friday is a bad day
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1680. # [12:13] <jesup> smaug: just put up a patch to MOZ_ASSERT if code called from JS tries to spin the event loop. Wonder what we'll find.... though it's really a trip-wire for new bugs.
1681. # [12:13] * jesup crashes
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1683. # [12:14] <@smaug> :)
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1685. # [12:14] <Gijs> :)
1686. # [12:15] <Gijs> jesup: that'll completely break venkman, I can tell you that much
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1688. # [12:15] <@smaug> does venkman still work=
1689. # [12:15] <Gijs> (possibly not a bad thing if there's a replacement for chrome debugging)
1690. # [12:15] <@smaug> s/=/?/
1691. # [12:15] <Gijs> sadly that depends on your definition of 'work'.
1692. # [12:15] <Gijs> And in fact it's been a while since I last checked.
1693. # [12:16] <@smaug> I would have assumed the old JSD API was removed or disabled already
1694. # [12:16] <Gijs> No, because "even" firebug is still busy switching to the new one, I believe.
1695. # [12:16] <Gijs> it's possible that it's been removed on nightly (or will be soon), though
1696. # [12:17] <Callek> smaug: venkman does -- sorta -- in a limited capacity
1697. # [12:17] <Ms2ger> No, JSD still exists
1698. # [12:17] <Callek> smaug: it has a LOT of bugs since it hasn't had any reasonable updates in many cycles
1699. # [12:18] <Gijs> Callek is right, sadly.
1700. # [12:18] <Gijs> Though really, it's questionable whether at this point trying to save it would be the right decision.
1701. # [12:18] * Callek notes SeaMonkey still ships with venkman, but yea once the JSD API dies, I don't see it being shipped anymore, as the SeaMonkey team doesn't have the time to update its JSD ourselves
1702. # [12:19] <Gijs> it needs a UI revamp AND a rewrite for the new APIs (obviously)
1703. # [12:19] <Callek> Gijs: yea, I'd rather firebug+chromebug be updated and venkman UX wrapped around it or something if we care enough about venkman
1704. # [12:19] <Callek> updating venkman alone probably would be a hell of a painful time
1705. # [12:19] <Gijs> if you're going to majorly overhaul the UI and the backend, might as well start from scratch.
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1707. # [12:20] <Gijs> There's a lot of backwards compat stuff going on in vnk that you can ditch if you do that, too.
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1709. # [12:20] <Gijs> Anyway, didn't patrick brunschwig do a chrome debugger add-on recently?
1710. # [12:20] <Callek> smaug: fwiw I should note venkman doesn't properly recognize 'let' variables in its UX though (iirc its manual commands work to recognize vars set with let once they are set/modified though)
1711. # [12:21] <Callek> also we now have a Firefox employee who was a dev of venkman, he might be able to devote some time to an officially supported chrome debugger! :-P
1712. # [12:21] * Callek teases of course
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1714. # [12:23] <gabor> edmorley: can you help me out with this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820170#c134 what is the process in this case? backing it out?
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1716. # [12:25] * gabor thinks 6% is a lot
1717. # [12:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59e4c48fa13f - Jon Coppeard - Bug 858108 - GC: Root the Locale interface r=terrence r=bholley
1718. # [12:25] * Gijs invites Callek to take it up with my manager :P
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1720. # [12:25] <edmorley> gabor: yeah backout would be best if that's ok
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1722. # [12:26] <Callek> Gijs: I'm sure dolske would enjoy a chrome debugger as much as me!
1723. # [12:26] <@smaug> uh, 6% a lot indeed
1724. # [12:26] <@smaug> how did that happen
1725. # [12:26] <Callek> it surely is more important than whatever you're working on!
1726. # [12:26] <gabor> edmorley: I don't have any better idea... can I test it somehow before the next push if I fixed this?
1727. # [12:26] * Callek jokes
1728. # [12:26] <gabor> smaug: I have no idea, I guess it is a QI...
1729. # [12:27] <edmorley> gabor: you can compare a before/after try push
1730. # [12:27] <gabor> smaug: I will have to double check every line I guess, but cannot do it today :(
1731. # [12:28] <gabor> edmorley: hmm... is that so? how can I do that?
1732. # [12:28] <edmorley> gabor: use http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/index.html
1733. # [12:29] <gabor> edmorley: alright, won't happen again then
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1751. # [12:47] <mak> Yoric: before you ping me, I'm starting the review now
1752. # [12:47] <Yoric> mak: Thanks :)
1753. # [12:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fddde2d1e9b2 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 853858: Move PeerConnectionTest instance reference into global scope. r=jesup, r=hskupin
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1808. # [13:50] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: probably could have just changed the assertion annotation on that test :)
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1813. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, hmm?
1814. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> Oh
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1816. # [13:52] <RyanVM> it's *good* when a test stops asserting :P
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1818. # [13:52] <Ms2ger> I guess I could have
1819. # [13:54] <RyanVM> oddly enough, the assertion that's being annotated is bug 683159
1820. # [13:54] <Ms2ger> Yeah
1821. # [13:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84d0583cc8cb - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8a6cacf047a1 (bug 833795)to fix bug 856083.
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1827. # [14:05] <Callek> RyanVM: its also good to know why an assertion stopped hitting
1828. # [14:05] <Callek> RyanVM: so if an assertion stops being hit with a completely unrelated code change, might warrant a peek to see if we're not executing the same test we thought we were
1829. # [14:05] <Callek> (at least thats imho)
1830. # [14:06] <Callek> and who better to evaluate that then the patch author
1831. # [14:06] <RyanVM> Callek: true
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1834. # [14:07] <RyanVM> Callek: oh, it's *that* assert
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1836. # [14:08] * Callek admits he didn't actually LOOK at what assert this was
1837. # [14:08] <Callek> ;-)
1838. # [14:08] <RyanVM> bz: supposedly just fixed that one, actually
1839. # [14:08] <Callek> RyanVM: that said, if we trusted it to be likely a properly no-longer-hit assert we could have just changed it and left a note for a few people to do something if it looked funny
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1841. # [14:09] <RyanVM> I'm actually kind of confused now
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1843. # [14:10] <RyanVM> i would have expected backing out ajones to have not helped
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1845. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> Drowsee uses CONFUSION
1846. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> -zee?
1847. # [14:10] <RyanVM> because 9b50f98dee91 is what fixed the assert
1848. # [14:11] <RyanVM> (and no annotations were removed when it was fixed, apparently)
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1852. # [14:13] <RyanVM> oh, it's a bit more complicated
1853. # [14:14] <RyanVM> see https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/67060725ec8d
1854. # [14:15] <RyanVM> so I only half-fixed it I guess
1855. # [14:15] <RyanVM> and muddied the waters by doing that with the unrelated backout push
1856. # [14:15] <RyanVM> oh well, I guess I'll undo the rest and test on Try
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1858. # [14:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7b7600dd8fa - Vicamo Yang - Bug 850127 - 2/3: DOM & IPC. r=mounir
1859. # [14:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/624ff603f70c - Vicamo Yang - Bug 850127 - 3/3: RIL & test cases. r=gwagner
1860. # [14:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a62344fc87b - Vicamo Yang - Bug 850127 - 1/3: Expose threadId in SmsMessage and SmsThreadListItem. IDL/IPDL changes. sr=mounir
1861. # [14:17] <avih> does OMTC work on windows? can it be enabled somehow?
1862. # [14:17] <avih> (even if just for testing)
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1865. # [14:19] <RyanVM> don't think so
1866. # [14:19] <RyanVM> IIRC, the pref is there but doesn't do anything
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1870. # [14:22] <avih> hmm.. some build configuration? how far is OMTC from being testable? how about linux?
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1873. # [14:23] <RyanVM> isn't it waiting on the layers refactoring work?
1874. # [14:23] <RyanVM> which is getting close to landing
1875. # [14:23] <Ms2ger> Is it?
1876. # [14:24] <RyanVM> what question was that in response to?
1877. # [14:24] <Ms2ger> "which is getting close to landing"
1878. # [14:24] <avih> i'm following the layers refactoring reviews bug, but wasn't following OMTC, and didn't know what's the main blocker to start playing with it
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1880. # [14:25] <avih> so OMTC is only available now on android and gonk?
1881. # [14:25] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: yes
1882. # [14:25] <RyanVM> avih: IIRC, yes
1883. # [14:25] <avih> k, thanks
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1885. # [14:26] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: aha, looking at a green debug m-oth run, test_bug451286.xul is hitting different asserts
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1887. # [14:26] <RyanVM> what a pain
1888. # [14:26] <Ms2ger> Oh, lovely
1889. # [14:26] <RyanVM> so the Try push will probably go orange
1890. # [14:26] <RyanVM> since I pushed m-c
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1892. # [14:26] * RyanVM does an inbound-based push
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1902. # [14:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/905671d954c5 - Henri Sivonen - Bug 849597 - Add more kung fu to nsParser. r=smaug.
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1904. # [14:39] <RyanVM> cool, nightly-only M3 bustage on m-c
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1907. # [14:40] <edmorley> RyanVM: \o/
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1913. # [14:42] <Callek> RyanVM: nightly only, or pgo-only
1914. # [14:42] <RyanVM> Callek: given the pgo-green runs prior to the nightlies...
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1916. # [14:44] <Callek> RyanVM: they lied, obviously :-P
1917. # [14:44] * Callek jokes and walks away as he is arguing with a gun fanatic on facebook and just ruined the rest of his day b/c of that
1918. # [14:44] <Callek> haha
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1923. # [14:47] <Ms2ger> "Funky beats skanky, so here we are."
1924. # [14:48] * @roc checks in
1925. # [14:48] <@roc> oh look at the time
1926. # [14:48] * @roc goes to bed
1927. # [14:48] * Ms2ger backs out
1928. # [14:49] <Ms2ger> Good night, roc :)
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1932. # [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c291c98a1bfc - Raymond Lee - Bug 854927 - Remove callback from new async getCharsetForURI in PlacesUtils. r=mak
1933. # [14:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f65b5204c8b - Martijn Wargers - Bug 788866 - [B2G] mochitests fail to focus test window. r=smaug, f=ahal
1934. # [14:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f6b9b15be23 - Jonathan Laver - Bug 851044 - Modified stringifyArgs to use the objects toString method if it is not Object.prototype.toString when logging. r=Yoric
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1936. # [14:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d2bd7177ac9 - Adrian Tamas - Bug 856518 - Add more detailed test messages to testDoorHangers Robocop test. r=jmaher
1937. # [14:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32001b4712e8 - Dave Vasilevsky - Bug 848792 - Update the dock icon only 8 times per second. r=josh
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1948. # [15:02] <RyanVM> abr: thou hast leaks on inbound
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1957. # [15:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7156b703f3d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset fddde2d1e9b2 (bug 853858) for Windows leaks.
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1965. # [15:12] <Yoric> mak: Can you explain to me why Connection::initializeInternal sets a negative cache size?
1966. # [15:12] <mak> Yoric: it's a special syntax, if you set a positive value it is the number of pages, if you set a negative value it's the KiB size
1967. # [15:12] <Yoric> arf
1968. # [15:12] <Yoric> thanks
1969. # [15:13] <mak> Yoric: otherwise you should query the page size, calculate number of pages, then set it... this is shorter
1970. # [15:13] <Yoric> ok
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1972. # [15:14] <Standard8> RyanVM: why the push to a closed comm-central?
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1980. # [15:18] <Callek> Standard8: related what bug # are we tracking |tar: tests/dom/imptests/failures/html/html/dom/documents/dom-tree-accessors/document.getElementsByName/test_document.getElementsByName-newelements.html.json: Cannot open: File or path name too long| in?
1981. # [15:19] <Standard8> Callek: we're not
1982. # [15:19] <Standard8> not seeing that on TB tree...
1983. # [15:19] <Standard8> afaict
1984. # [15:19] <Callek> Standard8: THAT was on the tb tree
1985. # [15:19] <Standard8> where?
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1988. # [15:19] <Callek> Standard8: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Trunk windows, on neil's push
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1990. # [15:19] <Callek> Standard8: so if thats not the "bustage" we're closed for, what is
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1992. # [15:20] <Callek> since you closed SeaMonkey as well ;-)
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1994. # [15:20] <Standard8> Callek: I'm seeing in those files "tar: image/test/reftest/encoders-lossless/encoder.html?img=size-15x15.png&mime=image: Cannot stat: No such file or directory"
1995. # [15:21] <Callek> Standard8: the one I pulled that specific line from was debug
1996. # [15:21] <Standard8> hmm
1997. # [15:21] <Standard8> this log is just confusing
1998. # [15:21] <Standard8> but looking at it again, its possible that's the actual issue
1999. # [15:22] <Standard8> which I thought shouldn't happen
2000. # [15:22] <Callek> why shouldn't it happen?
2001. # [15:22] <Standard8> because releng had made the path lengths the same...
2002. # [15:22] <Callek> Standard8: we made path lengths the same, but tb has that added mozilla/
2003. # [15:22] <Standard8> so if we're busted, so should m-c
2004. # [15:22] <Standard8> no, we compensated for that iirc
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2006. # [15:22] <Callek> Standard8: not in releng code we didn't
2007. # [15:22] <Standard8> hmm
2008. # [15:22] <Standard8> we did
2009. # [15:23] <Standard8> unless it was just esr
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2011. # [15:23] <Callek> we had to special-fudge esr, yes
2012. # [15:23] <Callek> but we didn't account for mozilla/ itself
2013. # [15:23] <yzen> Yoric: re: bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833286, let me know if you have a sec for a quick question
2014. # [15:24] <Standard8> we're also closed for bug 858014 btw
2015. # [15:24] <Callek> Standard8: http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/buildbotcustom/common.py#49
2016. # [15:24] <Yoric> yzen: Go ahead.
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2018. # [15:25] <Callek> Standard8: we don't trim out padding based on length of mozilla/ as i explained in said matching bug, we'd break well before moco/firefox, but at least we'd break consistently
2019. # [15:25] <yzen> Yoric: i m looking at steps 1b and 2b. Currently telemetry is measured for read in the main thread, should i change it to the new duration measurement? also if im going to attempt both reading sessionstore.js and sessionstore.js.bak, should i add another telemetry probe for the latter operation ?
2020. # [15:25] <Callek> OOOoo and yea 858014 is a pretty damned good reason to be closed
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2022. # [15:27] <Yoric> yzen: Oh, yes, please use the new duration measurement.
2023. # [15:27] <jesup> bsmedberg: ping
2024. # [15:27] <Yoric> Now why would you read sessionstore.js.bak?
2025. # [15:27] <bsmedberg> jesup: pong
2026. # [15:27] <Yoric> For 2b?
2027. # [15:27] <yzen> ya
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2029. # [15:28] <Yoric> Let me check which probes we have atm.
2030. # [15:28] <yzen> just like you mention in the comment: 1b. attempt to load sessionstore.js; 2b. if it doesn't exist or if it is corrupted, load sessionstore.bak instead.
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2033. # [15:28] <Callek> Standard8: can you CC me on whatever path-length issue/bug you file
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2037. # [15:29] <jesup> bsmedberg: Thanks. Can we identify the places where spinning the event loop is purposeful and safe (from within JS)? If so, those can be un-blocked.
2038. # [15:29] <Yoric> yzen: Just reuse FX_SESSION_RESTORE_READ_FILE_MS.
2039. # [15:29] <yzen> Yoric: so the same one as for the actual file?
2040. # [15:30] <bsmedberg> jesup: the problem is really plugins, because they can spin the event loop almost anywhere
2041. # [15:30] <Yoric> yzen: Well, the sum of both durations.
2042. # [15:30] <RyanVM> Standard8: sorry, for some reason I had it in my head that I was only pushing the PNG update, forgot about the other patch in the push
2043. # [15:30] <Standard8> RyanVM: ah ok
2044. # [15:30] <bsmedberg> jesup: which sucks, but I don't know if there's anything we can do about it. Instead I think it would be much more interesting to identify the critical sections where we *shouldn't* spin an event loop
2045. # [15:30] <Yoric> yzen: i.e. duration of reading the normal file + if that doesn't work duration of reading the backup file
2046. # [15:30] <yzen> Yoric: sounds good, that's all i had :)
2047. # [15:30] <Standard8> Callek: I'm too busy with other things to do that for a few hours yet
2048. # [15:30] <Yoric> Cool :)
2049. # [15:30] <jesup> bsmedberg: Can we unblock entering plugin code? (And is it safe for them to do it?)
2050. # [15:31] <bsmedberg> and then make sure we don't in those places, probably even with a runtime abort
2051. # [15:31] <bsmedberg> jesup: unblock?
2052. # [15:31] <Callek> Standard8: thats ok, just when you do (I'll likely be in bed within the next 1-2 hours, maybe even sooner)
2053. # [15:31] <bsmedberg> it should be safe to spin the event loop any time we're running content JS
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2055. # [15:32] <jesup> bsmedberg: The patch adds a (debug-only) runtime abort when it believes we're spinning and shouldn't. We can set (or unset) the blocked-from-spinning state at any point we need
2056. # [15:32] <bsmedberg> it might lead to weird reentrance behavior, but not security bugs/memory corruption/crashes
2057. # [15:32] <bsmedberg> jesup: yeah, I'm saying this should 1) probably be release-mode and not just debug-mode 2) we should pick more interesting targets
2058. # [15:33] <bsmedberg> like "whenever we're enumerating a hashtable"
2059. # [15:33] <RyanVM> edmorley: so those m-c M3 retriggers are...concerning
2060. # [15:33] <bsmedberg> and "any layout function that expects the frame/DOM tree to stay constant"
2061. # [15:33] <jesup> I'm trying to catch "weird re-entrance behavior", since that led to a bunch of hard-to-figure-out bugs (and I think a number of crashes and some sec bugs) when we had DISPATCH_SYNC on mainthread
2062. # [15:34] <edmorley> RyanVM: yeah :-(
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2064. # [15:35] <jesup> I'm also good with making really bad ones release assertions/crashes if they're dangerous (and avoid possible sec bugs)
2065. # [15:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8ed82bee517 - Chris Lord - Bug 854099 - Make nsPresShell::ScrollToShowRect take fixed position margins into account. r=roc
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2077. # [15:44] <jesup> bsmedberg: so I see two related questions: 1) where is it absolutely unsafe to allow the event loop to spin (and we may want to block even in release), 2) Where is it bad/weird/causes-random-behavior to spin the loop in that it allows re-entrance?
2078. # [15:44] <jesup> My patch was targeted at the second, but could easily be extended to cover the first as well
2079. # [15:44] <bsmedberg> jesup: yes; I don't think we should spend time on #2 at the moment
2080. # [15:45] <bsmedberg> the web is just crazy enough that "anytime" pretty much covers it
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2082. # [15:46] <jesup> bsmedberg: ok, though it makes me sad in that we (repeatedly) check in code that does this (and breaks things in the process). Perhaps I'll put a guard against DISPATCH_SYNC from MainThread (at least from within JS)?
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2084. # [15:47] <bsmedberg> jesup: ah yeah, I can't think of *any* reason we should DISPATCH_SYNC from the main thread
2085. # [15:47] <bsmedberg> but of course, I've been surprised before
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2089. # [15:47] <derf> I suspect the difficulty there will be finding all the places we actually do it and fixing them before you can _leave_ that guard in.
2090. # [15:47] <yzen> oh Yoric, one more thing, what about the sync fallback function for read ?
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2092. # [15:48] <Yoric> yzen: Yes, you'll need to update it, too.
2093. # [15:48] <yzen> Yoric: ok gotcha
2094. # [15:48] <jesup> Yeah, I caught someone else looking for review on a patch that would do that (part of pushing some sync stuff to be async - not in WebRTC - and the reviewer only noticed because I was talking about the problem in #developers; they didn't realize)
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2097. # [15:49] <jesup> The try run I did that disabled event-loop-recursion in JS entirely was impressively orange. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2c9465cfcd6f
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2099. # [15:50] <jesup> Interestingly it passed the Crashtests
2100. # [15:50] <@ted> heh
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2102. # [15:51] <@ted> crashtests don't have chrome privs
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2107. # [15:53] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: argh, the asserts on that test are back
2108. # [15:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c60cda8016e8 - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Re-add expected assertions to test_bug451286.xul on a CLOSED TREE.
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2110. # [15:54] <Ms2ger> Hah
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2112. # [15:56] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: we'll see what happens, but if we hit it again, I'm just going to change the annotation to 0-5 from 2-5
2113. # [15:56] <Ms2ger> Makes sense
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2116. # [15:59] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: actually, bug 849394 already exists for hitting 1 assert
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2118. # [15:59] <RyanVM> screw it, I'm changing it
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2123. # [16:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41197711fec5 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 849394 - Change assertion annotation on a CLOSED TREE.
2124. # [16:03] <RyanVM> Callek: so are android 2.2 xpcshell failures on inbound expected?
2125. # [16:03] <RyanVM> Callek: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21470602&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2127. # [16:05] <jesup> RyanVM: ping
2128. # [16:05] <RyanVM> jesup: pong
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2136. # [16:10] <jesup> Looking at the backout of abr: It looks like something went way wrong outside of this patch. Zillions of INFO - [Parent 464] WARNING: No outer window available!: file e:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000/build/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp, line 9696 and 05:52:34 INFO - [Parent 464] WARNING: out of memory: file e:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-d-0000000000000000000/build/obj-firef
2137. # [16:10] <jesup> ox/xpcom/build/nsDeque.cpp, line 178
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2139. # [16:11] <jesup> Following pushes before the backout have shown green on that test as well. I think it's a random, not due to this checkin
2140. # [16:12] <jesup> I think we just got the prize of being the first test to hit it on :-(
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2142. # [16:13] <jesup> two greens on Win7 Debug M2 following already
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2146. # [16:15] <RyanVM> jesup: possible
2147. # [16:16] <jesup> I re-triggered, but that will be a bit. This was a re-landing due to the original patch oranging android and B2G (which I ran a try for); there's no reasonable explanation for it causing a new DOM Window leak (we're just moving the "var test;" statement one level out in the JS so it doesn't get GC'd on us randomly)
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2150. # [16:18] <jesup> This patch will kill 4 intermittent oranges :-) Once it sticks... So, watch the M2's between checkin and backout, and the retrigger which is still pending; barring any surprises I'm going to ask to re-land it. Reasonable?
2151. # [16:19] <RyanVM> sure
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2156. # [16:23] <jesup> So, count is 2 greens and an orange that's a known intermittent on Win7 debug M2 since checkin. Looks like there will be one more pending (plus maybe a PGO run eventually)
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2158. # [16:23] <jesup> And no leaks on any other build/platform
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2173. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> Git people!
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2175. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> How do I commit only some of the changes I made to a file?
2176. # [16:32] <till> Ms2ger: git commit -i
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2180. # [16:32] <till> er
2181. # [16:32] <till> --interactive
2182. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> fatal: No paths with --include/--only does not make sense.
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2185. # [16:33] <till> Ms2ger: yeah, sorry: you have to write out --interactive
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2187. # [16:34] <till> Ms2ger: ah, but much better: git add -i
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2189. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> Hm
2190. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> So then it asks "What now"
2191. # [16:35] <froydnj> Ms2ger: you're using git?! are you feeling OK?
2192. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> Not at all
2193. # [16:36] <till> yeah, the interface isn't the most obvious one
2194. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> git add -p looks nicer
2195. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> But not a lot
2196. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> Stage this hunk [y,n,q,a,d,/,j,J,g,e,?]?
2197. # [16:37] <till> nice, hu?
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2200. # [16:37] <till> Ms2ger: ? is your friend there
2201. # [16:37] * froydnj just uses magit in emacs for this sort of thing
2202. # [16:37] <RyanVM> edmorley: seeing the m-c M2 failures on the Windows nightlies too
2203. # [16:37] <RyanVM> M3 rather
2204. # [16:37] <Ms2ger> froydnj, improving UX by using emacs, eh
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2208. # [16:38] <froydnj> Ms2ger: yup! :)
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2217. # [16:43] <bbondy> If I have mozilla-central checked out and I want to push a patch to fx-team is there a way to do that without having fx-team checked out? I've always had te integration branch checked out and fully updated previously but to save disk space it'd be nice to not have it checked out.
2218. # [16:43] <Ms2ger> hg pull -u fx-team
2219. # [16:43] <Ms2ger> hg up -C
2220. # [16:43] <Ms2ger> hg comm -m "I'm on fx-team!"
2221. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> hg push -r .
2222. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> hg push -r . fx-team, that is
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2226. # [16:44] <edmorley> ideally proceeded by hg out -r . fx-team
2227. # [16:44] <bbondy> eh
2228. # [16:44] <edmorley> preceeded
2229. # [16:44] <bbondy> eh
2230. # [16:44] <Ms2ger> ^ smart man
2231. # [16:44] <bbondy> ok
2232. # [16:44] <bbondy> *hehe
2233. # [16:45] <Ms2ger> http://i.imgur.com/O9w7fU9.jpg
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2236. # [16:46] <bbondy> then another hg pull -u m-c and hg up -C after that?
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2239. # [16:47] <bsmedberg> bbondy: if you want, sure
2240. # [16:47] <bsmedberg> bbondy: note that you'll probably still be ahead of m-c at that point
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2244. # [16:48] <luisbg> are there any architectural papers/articles/videos that explain how the firefox code works?
2245. # [16:49] <bbondy> wondering if it'll cause longer incremental builds and if it's easeir to just hg qimport from the other repo
2246. # [16:49] <luisbg> how it is divided in components, where each lives, how things are done, the flow of DOM/rendering/layout/displaying
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2248. # [16:49] <Ms2ger> luisbg, I believe the expression is "it's held together with spit and glue"
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2250. # [16:50] <luisbg> Ms2ger, I thought perl was the duct tape of the Internet
2251. # [16:50] <luisbg> I guess spit is the glue of the browser :P
2252. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> Which is why we don't use duct tape ;)
2253. # [16:50] <luisbg> hahaha
2254. # [16:51] <mjrosenb> CLOSED. FTP server problems
2255. # [16:51] <mjrosenb> hoh
2256. # [16:51] <mjrosenb> well, that is a new one.
2257. # [16:51] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, hardly
2258. # [16:51] <bhearsum> heh, not really
2259. # [16:51] <bhearsum> sadly
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2262. # [16:51] <luisbg> Ms2ger, so do I take that as a "no, there isn't any architectural/top-down documentation of Mozilla"
2263. # [16:51] <Ms2ger> luisbg, there may be some on mdn or devmo
2264. # [16:51] <luisbg> Ms2ger, ahhh OK
2265. # [16:51] <Ms2ger> luisbg, and if you thought mdn and devmo were the same, they are; I meant wikimo
2266. # [16:51] <luisbg> asking here openly to see if anybody knows any specific ones, instead of searching around like crazy
2267. # [16:52] <luisbg> Ms2ger, MDN is fantastic, but most documentation is about how to create websites and not how to right a browser. or that is what I've seen, I might be mistaken
2268. # [16:52] <Ms2ger> But if you find something, there's a good chance it's quite out of date :)
2269. # [16:52] <luisbg> is there a magical corner of MDN I haven't discovered?
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2274. # [16:53] <evilpie> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/mozilla is starting point
2275. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> There's a bit here and there
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2279. # [16:54] <Ms2ger> Clearly we should teach mbrubeck about WebIDL
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2283. # [16:55] <luisbg> evilpie, thanks
2284. # [16:56] <luisbg> evilpie, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Projects
2285. # [16:56] <luisbg> empty :(
2286. # [16:56] <luisbg> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging <--- this is going to be useful. cool!
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2288. # [16:57] <luisbg> I can learn to create good logs that will teach me
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2291. # [16:58] <JosiahOne> luisbg: Just out of curiosity, why are you so interested in this? I mean, it's actually a fine thing to do, but most people don't go looking for it.
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2294. # [16:59] <luisbg> JosiahOne, after two commits I'm interested in joining Firefox development
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2296. # [16:59] <luisbg> and understanding how everything fits together, and where potential bugs I read exist is my method to becoming productive
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2298. # [17:00] <JosiahOne> luisbg: Cool, but I must tell you. Probably the best way to get familiar with how things are working, is just to dive in. Look around, take some bugs, figure out where they go. However, you might get a little boost by figuring out things early… So good luck!
2299. # [17:00] <luisbg> JosiahOne, but I don't want to waste developer's time by asking a thousand questions :P (they can use that time for developing)
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2301. # [17:01] <JosiahOne> luisbg: And that's a considerate thought. :)
2302. # [17:01] <mbrubeck> Ms2ger: I know a lot more about it now than I did when I wrote that spec. ;)
2303. # [17:01] <luisbg> JosiahOne, yes, I'm tackling my second bug and feel a bit lost heh, which I understand it is natural but was considering approaches to "map the grounds"
2304. # [17:01] <luisbg> mentally
2305. # [17:01] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, Art just asked ever so nicely to review pointer events too \o/
2306. # [17:02] <JosiahOne> luisbg: Now I'm curious. What bug #?
2307. # [17:02] <luisbg> mbrubeck, like the Tim Burton quote after he finished directing Batman?
2308. # [17:02] <evilpie> Ms2ger: do you understand that problem? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21473016&tree=Try
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2310. # [17:02] <luisbg> JosiahOne, the one I'm currently working on?
2311. # [17:02] <evilpie> ggc whatever we are using on tbpl is complaining about init order
2312. # [17:02] <JosiahOne> luisbg: Yeah.
2313. # [17:02] * mbrubeck searches for the quote luisbg is referencing
2314. # [17:03] <luisbg> JosiahOne, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854506
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2316. # [17:03] <JosiahOne> luisbg: Thank you.
2317. # [17:03] <Ms2ger> evilpie, https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/d22b7b06f038#l1.20
2318. # [17:03] <luisbg> mbrubeck, after he finished directing the film he said "After finishing this film, now I know how to direct a Batman film"
2319. # [17:04] <luisbg> implying you don't really know how to do something until you do it, but then you have the knowledge after your finished :P
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2321. # [17:04] <Ms2ger> evilpie, you moved around the initializers there
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2323. # [17:04] <JosiahOne> luisbg: Ain't that the truth.
2324. # [17:04] <Ms2ger> evilpie, the initializers should be in the same order as the declarations of the fields within the class
2325. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> evilpie, because that's the order in which they will actually run
2326. # [17:05] <luisbg> JosiahOne, :)
2327. # [17:05] <evilpie> why are they even #ifdef Debug, when they are unnecessary?
2328. # [17:06] <Ms2ger> evilpie, premature optimization, I think
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2331. # [17:06] <evilpie> just going to nix that stuff
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2334. # [17:07] <RyanVM> BTW, for those who may be interested in having m-c be open again, I'm going to be closing it until until the nightly-only mochitest-3 bustage is fixed
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2339. # [17:11] <RyanVM> bug 858588 is filed for the m-c closure
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2350. # [17:17] * RyanVM changes topic to 'm-c is CLOSED due to bug 858588 || Next uplift 13th May || Want to help? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
2351. # [17:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2633093f531e - Justin Lebar - Bug 856006 - Attempt no. 2 to fix orange in browserElement_KeyEvents.js. r=kk1ff
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2360. # [17:24] <luisbg> RyanVM, sorry for the newb question but... m-c is going to be closed?
2361. # [17:25] <RyanVM> luisbg: it means nothing can land there until what's currently broken is fixed
2362. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d93ad2c96f01 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 844779: IonMonkey: Improve the order of blocks, r=jandem
2363. # [17:26] <luisbg> RyanVM, I thought that was what Aurora was for
2364. # [17:26] <RyanVM> luisbg: you're mixing some terms up
2365. # [17:27] <luisbg> RyanVM, oops. mind explaining a bit?
2366. # [17:27] <RyanVM> Aurora is where things can stabilize for eventual release
2367. # [17:27] <RyanVM> the current m-c closure is because something landed on it that's causing tests to fail
2368. # [17:27] <RyanVM> so until the tests work again, nothing else is being permitted to land on it
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2370. # [17:28] <luisbg> oooh, didn't knew tests were failing (haven't run them in the last few days)
2371. # [17:29] <luisbg> so basically m-c is frozen, and only open to fixes that help the tests
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2373. # [17:29] <luisbg> RyanVM, thanks for explaining
2374. # [17:29] <RyanVM> yes
2375. # [17:29] <RyanVM> see the bug in the channel topic ;)
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2377. # [17:30] <luisbg> channel topics... they are like windscreen stickers. so present they become invisible. sorry :(
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2389. # [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5820d44601c1 - Scott Johnson - Bug 520992, Followup 1: Simplify code in nsDOMComputedStyle for box-sizing adjustment for clarity. [r=me]
2390. # [17:34] <NeilAway> aargh, stupid touchpads
2391. # [17:34] <NeilAway> no, I *don't* want to restart, thanks :s
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2415. # [17:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f83b4eedf82 - Marty Rosenberg - Bug 858083: fix a silly bug where we use armv7 instructions when in armv6-mode (and think we are on armv6 when we are not). (r=jbramley)
2416. # [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c13cc6711858 - Marty Rosenberg - bug 858535: Make sure the cache is flushed beforewe attempt to enter BC compiled code. (r=jbramley)
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2446. # [18:10] <evilpie> can somebody view https://air.mozilla.org/overview-of-research-team-projects/ ?
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2448. # [18:11] <till> evilpie: I think the video is missing
2449. # [18:11] <dholbert> evilpie, yeah, not playing for me
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2469. # [18:23] <jimm> RyanVM: did the m-3 failures start with Ms2ger's push?
2470. # [18:23] <RyanVM> jimm: the nightlies off it
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2472. # [18:23] <RyanVM> jimm: but there were a few pushes prior w/o nightlies
2473. # [18:23] <firebot> Check-in:
2474. # [18:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/448765c6360b - Gavin Sharp - Bug 369180: override nsIAuthPromptProvider implementation on search suggestion callbacks to avoid proxy authentication dialog popping up while entering text in the search
2475. # [18:24] <firebot> bar, r=mayhemer
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2482. # [18:27] <jesup> RyanVM: So every push between landing bug 853858 and the backout was green or other known oranges on Win7 debug M2 (and all the others). I'm going to assert this isn't our bug, and the leak is due to something blowing up and causing shutdown to totally fail (OOM errors, no window errors, etc)
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2484. # [18:27] <RyanVM> jesup: we shall see
2485. # [18:27] <RyanVM> if I see it again post-landing I'm still throwing you under the bus ;)
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2489. # [18:31] <jesup> RyanVM: sure. Though I'll note that if it is a different random orange, it may recurr eventually. And looking closer: I have proof it's not us - none of the tests in question ran in M2 (search the full log for 'peerconnection').
2490. # [18:31] <RyanVM> jesup: OK, that's a compelling case :P
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2493. # [18:32] <jesup> I thought so :-) Should have checked earlier
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2495. # [18:32] <jesup> Our tests keep bouncing between M2 and M3 :-(
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2498. # [18:33] <@bz> Don't throw jesup under buses, please
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2500. # [18:33] <@bz> it's not good for either him or the axles
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2505. # [18:34] <jesup> Bus axles are pretty strong, but I'll agree it's not good for me
2506. # [18:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8262a337d5be - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 853858: Move PeerConnectionTest instance reference into global scope r=jesup,whimboo
2507. # [18:35] <jesup> and with any luck there go another 4 intermittents
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2510. # [18:36] <nical> the wiki page explaining how to format patches does not say anything about the commit message or author names in the header of the patch (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Creating_a_patch ) should we expect new contributors to do it or is it up to the one landing the patch ?
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2513. # [18:37] <@bz> Should be up to the patch creator
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2515. # [18:37] <@bz> And the relevant docs are at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mercurial_FAQ#How_can_I_generate_a_patch_for_somebody_else_to_check-in_for_me.3F
2516. # [18:37] <@bz> And are pointed to from that page, in a nice red "this document is obsolete" box....
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2518. # [18:38] <nical> bz oh right, thanks
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2527. # [18:41] <dougt> RyanVM: what do we know about the tree closure?
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2529. # [18:42] <gabor> RyanVM: Hi, could you help me out with backing out a series of patches? I'm quite inexperienced in this (aka total noob). bug 820170
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2532. # [18:42] <mbrubeck> gabor: https://bitbucket.org/sfink/qbackout is a user-friendly tool for that
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2534. # [18:42] <jesup> bz: I always try to check/fix commit messages before checking in for someone, anyways. Makes my life simpler (and patches on bugs often are missing the r=)
2535. # [18:43] <mbrubeck> gabor: Or you can use my method: "hg diff -r <after> -r <before> | hg qimport - -n backout"
2536. # [18:43] <@bz> jesup: sure
2537. # [18:43] <mbrubeck> where "after" is the last changeset you want to back out, and "before" is the parent of the first changeset you want to back out
2538. # [18:43] <@bz> jesup: On the other hand, writing a good commit message if you didn't write the patch is _hard_
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2540. # [18:44] <@bz> mbrubeck: as long as he doesn't do that for patches with file moves and whatnot? ;)
2541. # [18:44] <mbrubeck> bz: It works fine for file moves... at least with my diff options
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2543. # [18:44] <mbrubeck> git=1
2544. # [18:45] <@bz> mbrubeck: interesting
2545. # [18:45] <@bz> mbrubeck: didn't use to, even with git=1, iirc....
2546. # [18:45] <RyanVM> dougt: all we know is what's in the bug
2547. # [18:45] <mbrubeck> hmm
2548. # [18:45] <mbrubeck> probably good to be wary and inspect the results, anyway :)
2549. # [18:45] <@bz> mbrubeck: but that was many moons (heck, earths!) ago
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2551. # [18:45] <jesup> bz: so, do you think it's worthwhile to find-and-exempt places where nested (JS) event loops are allowed/required? The bugs caused when reentrancy happens can be varied and hard to pin down on a cause (and very intermittent). Or is there a better way to catch it?
2552. # [18:45] <mbrubeck> gabor: or philor's method "hg qnew backout; hg backout <rev3>; hg qref; hg backout <rev2>; hg qref; hg backout <rev1>; hg qref"
2553. # [18:46] * mbrubeck should write an "hg reland" plugin if someone hasn't done it already...
2554. # [18:46] <@bz> jesup: well, so
2555. # [18:46] <@bz> jesup: per spec, the only reentrant thing ever should be showModalDialog
2556. # [18:46] <@bz> jesup: as in, everything else is supposed to suspend the page event queue
2557. # [18:47] <@bz> jesup: that presupposes that there is more than one event queue, of course.
2558. # [18:47] <jesup> Ok.... that doesn't explain https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2c9465cfcd6f
2559. # [18:47] <RyanVM> gabor: sure, I'm in a meeting at the moment, but after that
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2561. # [18:47] <@bz> jesup: was that to me?
2562. # [18:47] <jesup> yes
2563. # [18:47] <@bz> well
2564. # [18:47] <@bz> As I said, "that presupposes"
2565. # [18:47] <jesup> though my patch is over-simplistic and should likely clear the state at certain points
2566. # [18:48] <@bz> We, in practice, spin the event loop any time the spec suspends event queues
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2568. # [18:48] <gabor> mbrubeck: problem is I have to do a presentation tomorrow, and for the whol weekend I will be at a Mozilla event, and since it's 12 patches I'm affraid for me it will take a lot of time, and postponing it probably a just make it worse :(
2569. # [18:48] <tanvi> RyanVM: will the next merge from inboudn to central be today?
2570. # [18:48] <RyanVM> tanvi: depends on when m-c reopens
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2574. # [18:48] <jesup> So I could unblock nesting queues at the suspend points, in theory
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2577. # [18:49] <gabor> mbrubeck: but thanks for the awesome info! I'll saved them and will try them out
2578. # [18:49] <mbrubeck> gabor: Pretty sure that regression is not your fault... see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854799#c25 and followups
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2582. # [18:50] <@bz> jesup: is the idea to catch new places where we add event queue spinning by accident?
2583. # [18:50] <jcranmer> crazy blob question
2584. # [18:50] <@bz> jesup: as in, we'd mark all the places where we do it right now as explicitly ok
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2586. # [18:50] <jcranmer> if I turn a blob into a URL
2587. # [18:50] <@bz> jesup: and then if someone adds a new one it would fail?
2588. # [18:50] <jesup> bz: yes, primarily. And probably catch a few places where we're doing it by accident
2589. # [18:50] <jcranmer> what pages could access that URL?
2590. # [18:50] <@bz> jesup: I see
2591. # [18:51] <jcranmer> in particular
2592. # [18:51] <@bz> jesup: well, I guess you could start whitelisting stuff....
2593. # [18:51] <@bz> jcranmer: pages that are same-origin with the blob, iirc
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2595. # [18:51] <@bz> jcranmer: right now
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2597. # [18:51] <@bz> jcranmer: there have been proposals to change the spec
2598. # [18:51] <jcranmer> could I make a blob URL from an xpcom component and stick that in the page of an HTML string that gets fed to display?
2599. # [18:51] <gabor> mbrubeck: wow... is there a way to tell it for sure?
2600. # [18:51] <jesup> bz: yup - it's easy to un-block entering something, and re-block exiting.
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2604. # [18:52] <tanvi> RyanVM; ah, i see. its busted
2605. # [18:52] <jesup> bz: that try push with the oranges is a good start. XHR hit it, showmodal did, opening new windows did, etc. (Lots of logs to pull)
2606. # [18:53] <jcranmer> bz: how does same-orgin work when I'm using mailnews-custom protocols?
2607. # [18:53] <tanvi> okay sounds good. Thanks RyanVM!
2608. # [18:53] <mbrubeck> gabor: look at http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[255,63,15]]&sel=1364948224153.41,1365160683169.8032&displayrange=7&datatype=running
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2610. # [18:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/855ddcd081e8 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 852014 - Defect - Issues downloading and installing msi. r=sfoster.
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2612. # [18:54] <mbrubeck> gabor: It's pretty clear that regression on that graph starts at Apr 3, 20:00 with revision 0d688b7c4411, right?
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2614. # [18:55] <@bz> mozilla::gl::TextureImage::Release
2615. # [18:55] <mbrubeck> The changeset that got blamed in your email is 6 datapoints later
2616. # [18:55] <@bz> Someone keeps releasing this on a random thread
2617. # [18:55] <@bz> is there a bug on this?
2618. # [18:55] <gabor> mbrubeck++
2619. # [18:57] <gabor> mbrubeck: awesome, thanks a lot!
2620. # [18:57] <@bz> joe: ping
2621. # [18:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e27ce27cd6e1 - Jim Mathies - Bug 858556 - Double clicking text with the mouse displays the selection grippers in Immersive mode. r=bbondy
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2625. # [19:00] <sfink> mbrubeck: re "hg reland". That's |hg qbackout --apply|
2626. # [19:00] <sfink> mbrubeck: er, assuming I ever pushed that
2627. # [19:00] <sfink> yeah, looks like I did
2628. # [19:01] <mbrubeck> sfink++
2629. # [19:01] <gabor> RyanVM: unping about the backing up thing :)
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2633. # [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2704dd67e99c - Andrew McCreight - Bug 856906 - make nsDocLoader mainthread only.
2634. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/182c43d6c7d4 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 852600 - traverse/unlink mStyleSheets in nsHTMLEditor. r=ehsan
2635. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/561ac0327dc9 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 852134 - simplify rooting and unrooting of SMS. r=smaug
2636. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e640b1edc504 - ISHIKAWA, Chiaki - Bug 858477: remove extra comma from nsCycleCollector.h r=mccr8
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2653. # [19:14] <reuben> anyone here using a 120hz monitor with a (Retina) MBP?
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2665. # [19:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/282de3fcc0cd - Nathan Froyd - Bug 858203 - mark more reftests as needs-focus; r=dholbert
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2673. # [19:25] <philor> hmm, wonder whether telemetry foolishly does things differently on nightly versus dep builds
2674. # [19:26] <RyanVM> philor: unpossible
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2681. # [19:29] <philor> RyanVM: I'd sort of vaguely like https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5b710d7fe073 for it if it does
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2684. # [19:31] <RyanVM> dougt ^
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2686. # [19:31] <dougt> philor: back it out and see?
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2689. # [19:33] <RyanVM> probalby the best theory we've got at this point
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2691. # [19:33] <RyanVM> i'll back it out and trigger nightlies
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2696. # [19:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/40a228f74389 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 5b710d7fe073 (bug 850968) to see if it fixes bug 858588 on a CLOSED TREE.
2697. # [19:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1aa5e2d8cd87 - Ivaylo Dimitrov - b=854539 - Implement AllocateAndGetNewBuffer for SharedPlanarYCbCrImage. r=nical
2698. # [19:34] <edmorley> philor: it seems to be enabled based on update channel, so should be on for both http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#8754
2699. # [19:35] <edmorley> though may be another surprise somewhere
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2701. # [19:36] <edmorley> oh, where does ${MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL} get set? (http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/config/mozconfigs/linux64/nightly#1)
2702. # [19:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/722d438e1072 - Chris Peterson - Bug 855146 - Part 4: Add Actions.sendKeyCode() method for IME tests. r=gbrown
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2707. # [19:40] <edmorley> oh, it comes from buildbot and we only set it for nightlies https://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/43124c4c5b3e/misc.py#l1303
2708. # [19:40] <edmorley> yey
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2777. # [20:16] <vlad> so 'make package' on windows is telling me "removed-files.in:...: Removal of packaged file(s): components/Weave.js" and similar
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2779. # [20:16] <vlad> how do I get it to not do this, so that I can make a .zip file?
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2804. # [20:36] <nemo> hrm. is behaviour of positioned elements w/ a table-cell parent (but no table-row or table parents to that element) something defined?
2805. # [20:36] <nemo> trying to figure out if the very inconsistent browser behaviour for http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase338.xhtml is ab ug or not
2806. # [20:36] <nemo> bug or not
2807. # [20:36] <nemo> and if so, in which browser
2808. # [20:36] <nemo> Safari/Chrome agree. Opera/IE10 agree. Firefox is on its own
2809. # [20:36] * coop|mtg is now known as coop
2810. # [20:36] <nemo> but. 3 different renderings
2811. # [20:36] <davidb> mconley: odd (re 858014)
2812. # [20:37] <nemo> based off of something someone was asking on irc://irc.freenode.net/css
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2814. # [20:38] <@bz> nemo: firefox doesn't support position:relative on table cells
2815. # [20:38] <sid0> Jesse: reading https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/Dil1gWjrDKo -- we've found that automatic linear rebase is a little problematic because there are situations in which local rebases won't work
2816. # [20:38] <@bz> nemo: so to that extent our behavior is buggy
2817. # [20:38] <nemo> 'k
2818. # [20:39] <@bz> nemo: so you're getting the non-table-cell div as containing block
2819. # [20:39] <sid0> Jesse: where "automatic" includes rebase by someone who isn't the author too
2820. # [20:39] <nemo> bz: yeah. that much was clear
2821. # [20:39] <@bz> nemo: past that...
2822. # [20:39] <nemo> bz: I just wasn't sure if it was a bug, or just that table-cell on its own (or positioned) was undefined behaviour
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2824. # [20:39] <nemo> bz: sounds like "known bug"
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2826. # [20:39] <@bz> nemo: positioned table cells are...
2827. # [20:39] * @bz looks up spec
2828. # [20:39] <Jesse> sid0: that kind of rebasing is not really different from what developers do now when they land on inbound
2829. # [20:39] <nemo> bz: so is IE10/Opera right, or Chrome/Safari? :)
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2831. # [20:40] <sid0> Jesse: yes, but then devs themselves are on the hook :p
2832. # [20:40] <@bz> "The effect of 'position:relative' on table-row-group, table-header-group, table-footer-group, table-row, table-column-group, table-column, table-cell, and table-caption elements is undefined. "
2833. # [20:40] <@bz> Thus spake CSS2.1
2834. # [20:40] <nemo> bz: ah. and CSS3 disagrees?
2835. # [20:40] <@bz> And CSS3 doesn't exist
2836. # [20:40] <@bz> That's the current spec on this
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2839. # [20:41] <nemo> bz: aight. thanks.
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2841. # [20:41] <nemo> so. not-a-bug
2842. # [20:41] <nemo> GIGO on random browserbehaviour
2843. # [20:41] <Jesse> sid0: putting an 'auto' tree between 'try' and 'central' contains the damage, imo better than the current 'back things out of inbound until inbound is green again' strategy does
2844. # [20:41] <@bz> But in general....
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2847. # [20:41] <@bz> If you assume table cells should work like normal stuff
2848. # [20:41] <sid0> Jesse: yes, that kind of makes sense
2849. # [20:41] <@bz> because the only real issue if what happens if offsets are nonzero
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2852. # [20:41] <@bz> For normal stuff, the containing block for an abs-pos child is the padding edge of the parent
2853. # [20:42] <@bz> of the rel-pos parent, that is
2854. # [20:42] <@bz> So the Opera/IE behavior would be "more correct"
2855. # [20:42] <@bz> just like the WEbKit one is "more correct" than the Firefox one
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2857. # [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d275d814f89a - Steve Fink - No bug. Prune out some indirect calls outside of js/src that cannot GC. Various other analysis updates. r=NPOTB DONTBUILD
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2865. # [20:48] <jcranmer> annevk: ping
2866. # [20:48] <annevk> jcranmer: yo
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2869. # [20:51] <jesup> So I ran into a bug that only shows up with a locale with UTF-8 but not UTF8; this brings up a question - our test infrastructure I'm guessing all or mostly runs en_US.UTF-8 or maybe (like fedora 17) en_US.utf8. Perhaps we should rotate the locale occasionally? (Though I think reftests might break on that, but mochitests and crashtests can probably handle it)
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2871. # [20:51] <jcranmer> annevk: do you know of any charsets other than gb18030 and utf-* that support non-BMP characters?
2872. # [20:51] <annevk> how are utf-8 and utf8 not identical?
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2874. # [20:52] <annevk> jcranmer: big5
2875. # [20:52] <luisbg> I was wondering the same thing
2876. # [20:52] <annevk> iirc
2877. # [20:52] <jcranmer> annevk: per the encoding spec, it looks like big5 should do it
2878. # [20:52] <jcranmer> annevk: but I tried =87E (in qp terms)
2879. # [20:52] <jcranmer> and our TextEncoder gives me a BMP char
2880. # [20:52] <annevk> jcranmer: ooh, big5 just has combining marks stuff, not non-bmp stuff
2881. # [20:53] <jcranmer> http://encoding.spec.whatwg.org/index-big5.txt suggests differently
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2883. # [20:53] <jcranmer> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /src/build/trunk/mail/mozilla/_tests/xpcshell/mailnews/mime/test/unit/test_parser_charsets.js | "\u7EF6" == "\uD85C\uDE67" - See following stack:
2884. # [20:53] <annevk> jcranmer: oh right
2885. # [20:53] <jesup> Well, what I read indicated "UTF-8" non-case-sensitive is correct, but it seems UTF8/utf8 is a common synonym
2886. # [20:53] <jcranmer> that's what happens when I try to use it
2887. # [20:53] <jesup> annevk: ^
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2889. # [20:53] * jcranmer wonders if it's just our uconv stuff that's bad
2890. # [20:54] <annevk> jesup: utf8 is just a label for utf-8, but our code should always say utf-8 unless it's label matching code
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2892. # [20:55] <annevk> jcranmer: so we may not implement big5 per spec
2893. # [20:55] <jcranmer> annevk: :-(
2894. # [20:55] <jesup> There was code in an imported lib that error-checked string by strcasestr()ing for "UTF-8" and skipped checking the string if it didn't find it
2895. # [20:55] <annevk> jcranmer: because of the big5-hkscs stuff
2896. # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07d20c5e4872 - Mark Finkle - Bug 843005 - Disable Android SQLite locking in databases for REL 11 and higher r=kats
2897. # [20:55] <jcranmer> annevk: bug 749052
2898. # [20:55] <jcranmer> ?
2899. # [20:55] <jesup> my patch checks for either UTF-8 or UTF8
2900. # [20:56] <jcranmer> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /src/build/trunk/mail/mozilla/_tests/xpcshell/mailnews/mime/test/unit/test_parser_charsets.js | "\u7EF6" == "\uD85C\uDE67" - See following stack:
2901. # [20:56] <jcranmer> gah
2902. # [20:56] <jcranmer> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /src/build/trunk/mail/mozilla/_tests/xpcshell/mailnews/mime/test/unit/test_parser_charsets.js | "\u7EF6" == "\uD85C\uDE67" - See following stack:
2903. # [20:56] <jcranmer> #@!#
2904. # [20:56] <jcranmer> 𧉧,绶
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2906. # [20:57] <jcranmer> those are the two characters I'm getting
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2909. # [20:57] <jcranmer> the one on the left should be wht the encoding standard sas; the one on the right is what I currently get
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2912. # [20:57] <jcranmer> whelp, late for class
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2915. # [20:57] <annevk> so we don't implement the encoding standard for big5
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2919. # [20:59] <annevk> jesup: so 1) locales should not have "utf8"; 2) we should rotate locales if we can
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2922. # [20:59] <annevk> jesup: I suspect 2) will lead to a bunch of issues though, but that is probably something we want to fix
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2926. # [21:00] <@bz> Given that we don't implement the encoding standard at all....
2927. # [21:00] <@bz> it's not too surprising.
2928. # [21:00] <annevk> well we implement bits
2929. # [21:01] <annevk> and we tried the big5 aliasing with big5-hkscs, but we didn't actually fix the index :/
2930. # [21:01] * jhammel prefers keeping the bit-implementation at the hardware level :P
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2934. # [21:03] <jesup> annevk: My fedora-17 seems to default that way (utf8); I haven't figured out exactly where it gets set. I'm not overriding it
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2938. # [21:03] <jesup> lots of /etc/* scripts and default configs have "check for either"
2939. # [21:03] <annevk> in general defaulting to utf8 sounds wrong, though it depends on whether this is the locale fallback or something else
2940. # [21:04] <annevk> :-(
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2942. # [21:04] <annevk> jesup: if you file bugs cc hsivonen and I
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2946. # [21:04] <dougt> RyanVM: did it work?
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2949. # [21:05] <RyanVM> dougt: tests are going now
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2951. # [21:05] <jesup> annevk: but in code looking at locale, it seems correct to conflate the two, correct?
2952. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7f51945a2b7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 858642 - Null-check the XBL scope. r=bz
2953. # [21:06] <RyanVM> doubt: but I think so if I'm reading the OSX logs correctly
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2955. # [21:06] <RyanVM> I think the ones that ran so far were from the nightly
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2957. # [21:06] <RyanVM> dougt: 5-10 minutes I should know for sure
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2960. # [21:07] <dougt> kk
2961. # [21:08] <annevk> jesup: if provided by the OS that may make sense I suppose
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2965. # [21:11] <jesup> annevk: I'm sure there's a reason all the default bash/csh profiles consider them the same... ;-)
2966. # [21:11] <jesup> thansk
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2975. # [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50725df22b05 - Benoit Girard - Bug 844996 - DeallocShmem failures will abort in debug builds. r=cjones,benjamin
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2978. # [21:18] <philor> mmm, does browser_aboutHome.js load snippets over teh interwebs?
2979. # [21:20] <Yoric> paolo: gps: I'm available if you want to give this a second try.
2980. # [21:20] <philor> and time out if the snippet it loads has a well-formedness error?
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2985. # [21:23] <philor> oh, no, it intentionally does that, other than the timing out part
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2991. # [21:24] <RyanVM> dougt: things look very good
2992. # [21:24] <RyanVM> philor: really nice catch
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2995. # [21:25] <@bz> What did philor catch this time?
2996. # [21:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a9aa417015a4 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 858192 - Correct error in nsIContentPrefService2 documentation about callbacks and observers. r=mak
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2999. # [21:26] <RyanVM> what broke m-c
3000. # [21:27] <philor> sweet
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3005. # [21:28] <@bz> ah, loading stuff over the unsafetubes, right
3006. # [21:29] <@bz> Most excellent.
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3013. # [21:31] <philor> no, that was me being confused, what I caught was the word "cache" in the commit message for https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5b710d7fe073, plus the correct fear that telemetry might be different between nightlies and on-push builds
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3024. # [21:36] <RyanVM> philor: see, this is why they call you the godfather
3025. # [21:37] <philor> whew
3026. # [21:37] * philor thought it was the jowls
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3031. # [21:39] <philor> do we have really crap timers on win8? I keep seeing test failures there that were fixed years ago, like bug 586900, having to do with time
3032. # [21:39] <gps> philor: yes. see comments in bug 793735
3033. # [21:40] <gps> apparently the absolute time APIs on Windows 8 are diverging by hundreds of milliseconds
3034. # [21:40] <RyanVM> avih: ping
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3036. # [21:40] <avih> RyanVM: pong
3037. # [21:40] <RyanVM> philor: heh, that's what I was just pinging avih about
3038. # [21:40] <RyanVM> avih: see above
3039. # [21:40] <philor> gps: thanks, I'll stop archiving those bugmails unread :)
3040. # [21:40] <gps> although I'm not sure if that bug fixes any of them
3041. # [21:41] <RyanVM> philor: so I'm thinking we should file a new bug for bug 586900 redux
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3043. # [21:42] <avih> philor: can you declare it a regression of a recent timing-related bug?
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3045. # [21:42] <avih> philor: what i'm asking is: do you think it's associated with one of the recent timing changes
3046. # [21:43] <philor> avih: I think it's more likely to be the way win8 has always been, but I'm not sure
3047. # [21:43] <avih> philor: could you roughly estimate a regression range of it? dates would suffice i think
3048. # [21:43] <RyanVM> philor: rather, the hardware they run on
3049. # [21:43] <RyanVM> the ix machines
3050. # [21:43] <RyanVM> jimm has said repeatedly that timing changes are expected
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3052. # [21:44] <gps> read the bug comments. it sounds like it might be due to the newer windows sdk or some other funk
3053. # [21:44] <avih> philor: is this x86/64 windows 8?
3054. # [21:45] <philor> avih: it's whatever we run tests on win8 for, and it's been failing lots more than any other flavor of windows for as long as we've been running it, which isn't very long, and we've only run win8 on this hardware, never on the minis that we run win7 and winXP on
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3057. # [21:46] <philor> the slaves are named t-w864-ix-014, but we don't do 64bit builds, so it must be 32bit builds running on 64bit OS
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3065. # [21:51] * NeilAway waits as the splines reticulate...
3066. # [21:52] <NeilAway> whoa, 64s
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3068. # [21:52] * NeilAway wishes the CPU time was realistic though
3069. # [21:52] <RyanVM> tanvi: I should be doing a merge some point in the next hour or so
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3073. # [21:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6be07c836e6d - Daniel Holbert - Bug 858684: Remove HTTP(..) annotation from flexbox reftests (which only needed it for font access). r=billm
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3077. # [21:56] <avih> RyanVM: how long have we been testing win8?
3078. # [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f4f549a04ee8 - Patrick McManus - bug 850968 - backout cache experiment for causing 858588 r=backout
3079. # [21:56] <RyanVM> few weeks now?
3080. # [21:56] <avih> i see
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3085. # [21:58] <gps> NeilAway: sorry, the time isn't accurate on Windows :/
3086. # [21:58] <gps> need to fix that
3087. # [21:59] <dougt> RyanVM: philor|away: awesome work guys.
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3090. # [22:00] <dougt> RyanVM: do you know if that would have failed against try?
3091. # [22:00] <gps> NeilAway: it doesn't take more than 4s if you aren't I/O bound. I highly recommend you buy an SSD
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3095. # [22:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b47c18653da - Tom Schuster - Bug 854614 - Root XPCLazyCallContext. r=terrence,bholley
3096. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9d17aa000e7 - Tom Schuster - Bug 854614 - Root xpc_qsUnwrapThis. r=terrence,bholley
3097. # [22:02] <RyanVM> dougt: presumably yes if you ran nightlies on the Try push, which should be doable with some mozconfig fiddling
3098. # [22:02] <RyanVM> though I can't speak from experience
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3101. # [22:03] <RyanVM> dougt: though it's also rather concerning that we have nightly-specific testing scenarios for things like telemetry
3102. # [22:03] <dougt> RyanVM: wierd.
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3109. # [22:11] * mbrubeck finally got pissed off enough by analyze.py to start writing patches
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3113. # [22:12] <mbrubeck> (bug 858735)
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3115. # [22:13] <RyanVM> woowoo, 150 csets in this inbound merge
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3125. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68dfccf515c0 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 858077 - Check for unknown object flag before checking number of objects r=bhackett
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3143. # [22:28] <jcranmer> bz: I suppose the real question is "should we change or should the spec change?"
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3145. # [22:29] <@bz> jcranmer: on which?
3146. # [22:29] <@bz> jcranmer: oh, encoding?
3147. # [22:29] * @bz has no idea
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3149. # [22:30] <jcranmer> the big5 thing
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3153. # [22:30] <jcranmer> looking briefly at our big5 decoder, I don't see how it can spit out non-BMP chars
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3156. # [22:32] <jcranmer> sometimes I wish I was born in a locale that had hard charset problems
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3158. # [22:33] <jcranmer> then testing myself would be feasible
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3165. # [22:36] <tbsaunde> just check the spec to be "use UTF-8 or get punched" ;p
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3168. # [22:36] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: I'm decoding RFC 2047; that isn't an optoin
3169. # [22:37] <RyanVM> felipe: well played :)
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3172. # [22:39] <felipe> RyanVM: :) fair point? I suppose it's fine to leave the occasional aurora orange there?
3173. # [22:39] <RyanVM> uplift++
3174. # [22:39] <jlebar> fabrice: ping?
3175. # [22:39] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: :(
3176. # [22:40] <RyanVM> felipe: though it's more than the test changing, so it'll need to get real approval for doing so
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3178. # [22:41] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: I am seriously considering discontinuing all support for *encoding* anything other than UTF-8
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3181. # [22:42] <felipe> RyanVM: yeah the test tests for the new behavior, so everything would need to be uplifted. and I don't think that bug should..
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3184. # [22:43] <felipe> i guess we could also disable the test on aurora
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3186. # [22:44] <felipe> or I might try to fix it there without the rewrite
3187. # [22:44] <RyanVM> whatever floats your boat
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3189. # [22:45] <jhammel> generally an upward force exerted by a fluid to oppose its weight :P
3190. # [22:45] <jhammel> i'll be here all week, people! TGIF, am i right?
3191. # [22:45] <avih> vlad: iirc with DWM disabled the patches are moot.
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3196. # [22:47] <avih> vlad: bas says that the vsync API returns an error on non WDM, so the timing fallsback to the old one
3197. # [22:47] <avih> aka 60hz, non synced
3198. # [22:47] <felipe> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8mpkujp8a1rvfk0uo1_500.jpg
3199. # [22:48] <jhammel> that's what get laughs here? i'm too good for this club!
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3201. # [22:49] <jhammel> you can take my name off the marquee. ... which should be pretty easy since you seem to have forgotten to put it on
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3206. # [22:50] <reuben> http://instantostrich.com/
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3210. # [22:52] <@dbaron> RyanVM, fwiw, I'm not sure how useful it is to make all intermittent oranges that involve assertions in mochitest block 404077
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3212. # [22:53] <vlad> avih: erm
3213. # [22:54] <vlad> avih: I guess then all we'd be able to see is skipped frames
3214. # [22:54] <vlad> avih: but really we should get things working right without dwm (e.g. our own vsync!)
3215. # [22:54] <vlad> avih: can I talk you into implementing the thread that does WaitForVBlank?
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3217. # [22:54] <avih> vlad: i still didn't look at the vids. just noticed you tested with WDM disabled..
3218. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9509f6be0095 - Jason Duell - Bug 855906 - SimplePush: Set pingInterval on websocket. r=dougt
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3220. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f5ef06d13fa - Jason Duell - Bug 855906 - Convert nsIWebsocketChannel pingInterval to seconds r=mcmanus
3221. # [22:55] <avih> vlad: yes, you can, that's my main priority now.
3222. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8b5ca19d2df7 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 846848 - UNC-formated paths. r=froydnj, a=akeybl
3223. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/218e76c7cad9 - Josh Matthews - Bug 854926 - Never request confirmation to close the last private browsing window. r=gavin, a=bajaj
3224. # [22:55] <avih> vlad: but it should be related to OMTC, as roc suggested
3225. # [22:55] <vlad> avih: ok, awesome
3226. # [22:55] <vlad> avih: well, yeah, it should, but I don't think it depends on OMTC
3227. # [22:55] <vlad> avih: there are two pieces -- one is basing the timing off Present()
3228. # [22:55] <vlad> the other is basig the timing off WaitForVBlank()
3229. # [22:55] <avih> vlad: right
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3231. # [22:55] <vlad> the infrastructure after that point is I think the same; either one can dispatch the event
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3233. # [22:56] <avih> true
3234. # [22:56] <vlad> so we can do it with WaitForVBlank now, or we can do it after Present() in the OMTC case
3235. # [22:56] <vlad> so I wouldn't block on OMTC (unless OMTC is in a good enough state that you can just do it there anyway)
3236. # [22:56] <avih> vlad: so wouldn't doing it now with vblank be redundant once we trigger it off present?
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3238. # [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aec1088730f6 - Scott Johnson - Bug 520992, Followup 1: Simplify code in nsDOMComputedStyle for box-sizing adjustment for clarity. [r=me]
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3240. # [22:57] <vlad> it would, but doing it off vblank (creating that thread) should be very easy
3241. # [22:57] <avih> vlad: and it appears OMTC is not yet ready even for testing, at least from the little i asked around
3242. # [22:57] <vlad> I'd even do it ignoring multi-monitor etc., just for testing
3243. # [22:57] <vlad> so that we can at least have an idea if taht approach is valid or not
3244. # [22:58] <avih> vlad: yeah, ignoring multi-monitor is my #1 simplification approach right now. some data suggest we don't have more than 5% users with multi-monitor setup, and even for those, it would only affect multi-win on multi-mon, so even less "bad cases". i can give you references for these numbers
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3249. # [23:00] <vlad> not necessasrily, it would affect someone with a 120Hz monitor and a 60Hz one (or a 50Hz one!) and moving the window from one to the other :)
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3251. # [23:00] <vlad> but definitely ignore it for now
3252. # [23:00] <vlad> (fixing it for real I suspect would not be hard.. just need one thread per monitor, and fire off events for windows that are on that monitor)
3253. # [23:00] <avih> re 120/60: depends on implementation
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3255. # [23:01] <avih> vlad: however, my main blocker right now is that i haven't dealt with threads yet on gecko. so any starting pointer for firing up thread and using it to send events to the main thread would be appreciated.
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3263. # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f52c6baf82f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
3264. # [23:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/139b6ba547fa - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
3265. # [23:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4f549a04ee8 - Patrick McManus - bug 850968 - backout cache experiment for causing 858588 r=backout
3266. # [23:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/40a228f74389 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 5b710d7fe073 (bug 850968) to see if it fixes bug 858588 on a CLOSED TREE.
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3269. # [23:04] <avih> vlad: gtg now, be back in 2 hours probably.
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3285. # [23:13] <RyanVM> evilpie: out with ye!
3286. # [23:14] <evilpie> noooo
3287. # [23:14] <RyanVM> didn't you break windows the last time you tried this one?
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3291. # [23:15] <NeilAway> why did the IDL hook reject the wholesale removal of an interface?
3292. # [23:15] <rnewman> who's the right victim to help me figure out a preprocessing issue that doesn't affect my builds but does affect Nightly?
3293. # [23:15] <evilpie> RyanVM: ? first time i tried landing it
3294. # [23:15] <@gavin> rnewman: I'm intrigued
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3296. # [23:15] <rnewman> gavin: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855371
3297. # [23:15] <rnewman> skip to comment 3
3298. # [23:15] <RyanVM> evilpie: I seem to recall backing out another rooting patch recently for Windows bustage
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3300. # [23:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a31b8520842 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 2b47c18653da and b9d17aa000e7 (bug 854614) for Windows bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
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3303. # [23:17] <@gavin> rnewman: healthreport-prefs.js doesn't have #filter substitution
3304. # [23:17] <rnewman> OK, I thought it might be that (testing it locally now)
3305. # [23:17] <@gavin> so I wouldn't expect @MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL@-replacement to work
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3307. # [23:17] <@gavin> the bug seems to suggest it sometimes does, though?
3308. # [23:17] <rnewman> we both thought it worked previously
3309. # [23:18] <rnewman> my current testing has been on the wrong update channel to actually verify, though (comment 5)
3310. # [23:18] <rnewman> thanks for the confirmation, gavin
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3317. # [23:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef4448dadcc3 - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 5) - Remove imgIContainer::ExtractFrame. r=joe, sr=bz
3318. # [23:21] * RyanVM gets ready to back seth out again
3319. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/548590c42367 - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 2) - Create a static utility class for image operations. r=joe, sr=bz
3320. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec0f65680925 - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 4) - Use ClippedImage instead of ExtractFrame for border-image. r=bz
3321. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f04bd50a5c13 - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 1) - Add ClippedImage. r=joe
3322. # [23:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96764c6123e2 - Seth Fowler - Bug 826093 (Part 3) - Use ClippedImage instead of ExtractFrame for -moz-image-rect. r=bz
3323. # [23:21] * seth just shakes his head
3324. # [23:22] <NeilAway> jdm: heh, looks like you tripped over your own version of bug 846762
3325. # [23:22] <jdm> NeilAway: hmm?
3326. # [23:22] <seth> RyanVM: seriously tho, the thing that this keeps being backed out for? it's intended to be fuzzy-if'd in this version
3327. # [23:22] <jdm> ugh, yes
3328. # [23:22] <seth> RyanVM: so if I somehow screwed that up and it oranges, just let me know and i'll fix the annotation
3329. # [23:22] <seth> RyanVM: let's avoid another backout =)
3330. # [23:22] <NeilAway> jdm: just noticed 854926
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3333. # [23:24] <RyanVM> seth: by the time it starts failing, I'll be gone for the day :P
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3335. # [23:24] <RyanVM> so you can take it up with philor
3336. # [23:24] * RyanVM has visions of Darth Vader arriving at the Death Star in RotJ flashing through his head
3337. # [23:24] <seth> RyanVM: that was my problem yesterday =) (only in that case, _I_ was gone for the day)
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3339. # [23:24] <seth> hehe oh dear
3340. # [23:25] <RyanVM> the emperor isn't as forgiving as I :D
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3344. # [23:26] <JonathanS> RyanVM, communication mean one thing invasion
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3378. # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/768af8d8fad4 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 858705 - Use newKind parameter. r=terrence
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3383. # [23:53] <mjrosenb> benjamin: so, you coming back this summer?
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3390. # [23:58] <benjamin> mjrosenb: no :(
3391. # [23:58] <mjrosenb> benjamin: :(
3392. # [23:59] <mjrosenb> benjamin: hope you do something fun at least.
3393. # [23:59] <benjamin> fixing my bugs from last summer :)
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