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  23. # [00:19] <luisbg> I see the use of LOG_SCOPE_WITH_PARAM() in the code
  24. # [00:20] <luisbg> how can I use/read these logs?
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  204. # [04:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a19f9df3a7a0 - Shane Caraveo - bug 858868 fix xpcshell test bug and social pref migration. r=markh
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  207. # [04:41] <markh> the all-seeing, all-knowing philor strikes again :)
  208. # [04:42] <philor> well, I've developed a certain familiarity with 858752
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  224. # [05:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2c2a5fce2c7b - Mike Connor - Bug 858305 - Need change to abouthealth.css to work around lack of flexbox support, r=gavin, a=bajaj
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  244. # [05:30] <philor> can't remember, is "Picture a necrophiliac having his way with a corpse, one so decomposed that pieces of flesh are flying off it." one of those things I'm supposed to stop saying in bugs?
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  246. # [05:31] <ewong> O_O
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  251. # [05:35] <capella> ewww !
  252. # [05:35] <capella> hehehe
  253. # [05:38] <philor> hmm, apparently fyan forgot about that test that tests search engine favicons against a static data URI. again.
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  255. # [05:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74354f979ea8 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 75f108f790a1 (bug 795495) for breaking browser_google.js
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  258. # [05:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bfd5cff709b - Frank Yan - Bug 795495 - Use 32x32 search engine icons in HiDPI mode when available. r=dolske
  259. # [05:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b2d5c652043 - Frank Yan - Bug 795495 - Addendum: Fix browser_google.js's data URI again. a=test-only
  260. # [05:54] <fryn> philor: yup, i did. sorry. :( that darn test, checking a data URI against a hard-coded one. :/
  261. # [05:55] <philor> and apparently I forgot, also not for the first time, fr{tab} rather than fy{tab}, could have saved myself the backout :)
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  278. # [06:08] <jlebar> njn: what do you mean?
  279. # [06:08] <njn> jlebar: base64's not a very efficient way to encode an image, no?
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  282. # [06:09] <jlebar> njn: It's not an efficient way to encode any binary data.
  283. # [06:09] <njn> jlebar: I'm working on the "dump all JS strings" patch, I just saw one of these when starting up desktop firefox
  284. # [06:09] <jlebar> njn: I'm sure we have many in FF.
  285. # [06:09] <njn> woo
  286. # [06:09] <jlebar> njn: You can stick them straight in a CSS file.
  287. # [06:10] <jlebar> njn: Which could end up being a win, particularly for small images.
  288. # [06:10] <njn> jlebar: so any suggestions on what the "dump all strings" output should look like?
  289. # [06:10] <njn> we can't group by compartments, but we can group by zones
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  291. # [06:10] <jlebar> njn: Can you list all the compartments in the zone?
  292. # [06:11] <njn> jlebar: yeah
  293. # [06:11] <njn> jlebar: do you really want the full string to be printed, even for really long ones/
  294. # [06:11] <njn> ?
  295. # [06:11] <jlebar> njn: maybe sort by total space taken up by the string -- length * number of occurrences in the zone
  296. # [06:11] <jlebar> njn: it's helpful to print the whole string so that we can open the image, if it's an image.
  297. # [06:12] <njn> jlebar: at the moment I dump them immediately, in the order they appear on the heap
  298. # [06:12] <njn> though I suppose I could cache and sort them
  299. # [06:12] <jlebar> njn: We want to be careful that dumping doesn't OOM the b2g process.
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  301. # [06:12] <jlebar> njn: you could dump them in such a way that they could be sorted afterwards, e.g. with |sort|.
  302. # [06:12] <jlebar> njn: Another bit that would be super-helpful is whether the string is reachable.
  303. # [06:13] <njn> jlebar: "nsIObserver" appears 40 times at start-up
  304. # [06:13] <njn> jlebar: reachability is harder
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  306. # [06:13] <jlebar> njn: We can dump all the reachable strings, right? It's just that given a string, you can't easily tell whether it's reachable?
  307. # [06:13] <njn> yes
  308. # [06:14] <njn> well, yes for the second question
  309. # [06:14] <njn> as for the first, I guess you can, with effort
  310. # [06:14] <njn> you could dump, GC, dump, and diff :)
  311. # [06:14] <jlebar> njn: I believe I wrote some string-dumping code once which piggybacked on the GC log code, which did only reachable strings.
  312. # [06:15] <jlebar> njn: I suppose that's not the worst thing in the world...
  313. # [06:15] <jlebar> njn: You could just dump twice and then we could diff...
  314. # [06:15] <jlebar> dump the one way, and then dump the other way.
  315. # [06:16] <jlebar> njn: anyway I don't want to over-complicate your initial patch, whether the strings are reachable is a really common question.
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  317. # [06:17] <njn> jlebar: sorting afterwards while grouping by zone/compartment sounds tricky
  318. # [06:17] <jlebar> njn: you mean, sorting afterwards /to/ group by zone/compartment?
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  320. # [06:18] <njn> well, it depends what kind of sort is required
  321. # [06:18] * jlebar is imaginging that the top of this file contains instructions on how to sort it.
  322. # [06:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/314ce3068d94 - Shane Caraveo - bug 855389 fix social toolbarbutton structure to work with themes/etc, r=felipe
  323. # [06:19] <jlebar> njn: But I could see outputting "(compartment no.) (string total bytes) (string length) (string no. times occurred) (string)"
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  325. # [06:20] <jlebar> njn: If you sort -g that, we'd be good? Then you'd only need to have a (compartment no.) (compartment name) line, or something.
  326. # [06:20] <jlebar> s/compartment/zone
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  329. # [06:20] <njn> jlebar: detecting duplicates makes things harder
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  331. # [06:21] <jlebar> njn: Yes...
  332. # [06:22] <njn> jlebar: another interesting question is if we should print external strings
  333. # [06:22] <jlebar> njn: what's an external string?
  334. # [06:22] <njn> i.e. ones where the chars are ownded by something outside the JS engine
  335. # [06:22] <jlebar> I see.
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  337. # [06:22] <jlebar> Are those ever reported in about:memory?
  338. # [06:22] <njn> when measuring string sizes, we treat them as having no chars
  339. # [06:22] <njn> nope
  340. # [06:22] <jlebar> cool.
  341. # [06:22] <njn> because we don't know who owns them, and so might report them twice
  342. # [06:23] <njn> also, we have inline strings, where the chars are stored in the string header
  343. # [06:23] <njn> not sure if I should print them too
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  345. # [06:23] <jlebar> njn: those haven't been a big problem, as I've read about:memory.
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  347. # [06:23] <jlebar> but more information is good...
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  364. # [06:43] <jlebar|sleep> Ohgood, we broke nytimes.com
  365. # [06:43] <jlebar|sleep> well, https: nytimes.
  366. # [06:44] <mjrosenb> jlebar|sleep: i'm sure you're just dreaming it.
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  519. # [09:18] <glazou> bonjour
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  528. # [09:23] <heycam> can someone CC me on bug 377438 please?
  529. # [09:25] <smontagu> heycam: done
  530. # [09:26] <smontagu> you'll find it rather dull, though :)
  531. # [09:26] <heycam> smontagu, thanks :)
  532. # [09:27] <Ms2ger> Ah, smontagu
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  534. # [09:27] <Ms2ger> Exactly who I was looking for :)
  535. # [09:28] <smontagu> Ms2ger: I have a question first
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  537. # [09:28] <Ms2ger> Shoot
  538. # [09:28] <smontagu> is there a way to make MOZ_ASSERT non-fatal at runtime?
  539. # [09:28] <Ms2ger> Not afaik
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  541. # [09:29] <smontagu> like there used to be for NS_ASSERTION with XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK (I think)
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  543. # [09:29] <Ms2ger> Mm
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  545. # [09:29] <Ms2ger> No, it's just inline null-dereferencing
  546. # [09:29] <smontagu> it would be rather useful for testing purposes
  547. # [09:30] <Ms2ger> File a bug :)
  548. # [09:31] <smontagu> yeah, just checking to see if there already is one
  549. # [09:32] <Ms2ger> I don't think so
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  551. # [09:32] <smontagu> I can't find anything
  552. # [09:32] <smontagu> Ms2ger: so what did you want?
  553. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> Would you say this test passes? http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/html/dom/elements/global-attributes/dir_auto-textarea-N-between-Rs.html
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  559. # [09:38] <smontagu> Ms2ger: did you compare it to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/reftests/bidi/dirAuto/dir_auto-textarea-N-between-Rs.html?
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  563. # [09:40] <smontagu> I added "textarea { resize: none; } to all those tests to make them pass
  564. # [09:40] <Ms2ger> Aha
  565. # [09:40] <smontagu> because the failure has nothing to do with what the test is testing
  566. # [09:40] <Ms2ger> Are these imported manually?
  567. # [09:40] <smontagu> I don't remember which is the chicken and which is the egg
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  570. # [09:41] <Ms2ger> I suppose Aharon is the chicken? ;)
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  572. # [09:41] <smontagu> ah, no, in this case Matti is :)
  573. # [09:42] <smontagu> and I think the answer is "semi-manually"
  574. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Mm
  575. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Because I was looking at importing them automatically, and I hit the same issue :)
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  577. # [09:42] <smontagu> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4bd4aabbaf28
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  579. # [09:43] <smontagu> IIRC I imported them automatically with some kind of sed filter
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  627. # [10:41] <firebot> Check-in:
  628. # [10:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2089d4146c21 - Simon Montagu - Disable the check for mixed Simplified and Traditional Chinese characters when determining whether to display IDN labels as unicode or punycode. Bug 857481, r=honzab
  629. # [10:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09170e15685a - Simon Montagu - Exclude U+30FB KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT from the non-recommended characters that force IDN labels to be displayed as punycode. Bug 857490, r=jfkthame
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  637. # [10:55] <db48x> I hate ubuntu
  638. # [10:55] <mikeratcliffe> So switch to Fedora ;o)
  639. # [10:56] <db48x> yea, I use it on my other computer
  640. # [10:56] <Ms2ger> Boo
  641. # [10:56] <db48x> this one came with ubuntu, and I hate reinstalling everything
  642. # [10:57] <db48x> Ms2ger: what do you prefer?
  643. # [10:57] <mikeratcliffe> Yeah, I hear ya.
  644. # [10:57] <Ms2ger> Ubuntu :):
  645. # [10:57] <db48x> heh
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  648. # [10:58] <db48x> so somehow they broke all of Firefox's panels and popups
  649. # [10:58] <db48x> when layout.css.dpi is 2, at least
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  651. # [10:58] <db48x> they're all positioned in the wrong place, and half of the correct dimensions
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  653. # [10:59] <db48x> context menus are broken differently though
  654. # [10:59] <db48x> they're at half the screen coordinates, but the size is tiny
  655. # [10:59] <db48x> just enough to show part of the scrollbar
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  694. # [11:42] <db48x> Ms2ger: so I'm curious. what attracts you to ubuntu?
  695. # [11:42] <Ms2ger> It Just Works(tm)
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  697. # [11:43] <db48x> hah
  698. # [11:43] <Ms2ger> For me, at least
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  719. # [11:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e3960f19a2d - Vicamo Yang - Bug 850127 (follow-up): use JS::Value instead and fix possible fennec build bustage. r=me
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  726. # [12:06] <srishti> !seen KaiRo
  727. # [12:06] <firebot> kairo was last seen 2 days, 17 hours, 54 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying 'ckoehler: oh, btw, who did you recommend me to go through for potentially getting a dev phone to award to participants of an app workshop (in a country where we don't ship for
  728. # [12:06] <firebot> now)?' in #b2g.
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  730. # [12:07] <KaiRo> srishti: I'm not here
  731. # [12:07] <KaiRo> or am I?
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  734. # [12:08] <srishti> kairo I was am interested in a bug which is related to l10n pluralization, chapell on |#introduction| told me to seek help from you
  735. # [12:08] <mjrosenb> !seen KaiRo
  736. # [12:08] <firebot> kairo was last seen 1 minute and 42 seconds ago, saying 'or am I?' in #developers.
  737. # [12:09] <mjrosenb> KaiRo: firebot thinks you're here.
  738. # [12:10] <KaiRo> srishti: well, I know almost nothing about the plural stuff in our current code
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  741. # [12:10] <KaiRo> srishti: the localizers etc. are in #l10n and I'd think you'd find someone with knowledge there more easily
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  743. # [12:11] <srishti> KaiRo, oh then can you tell me who would be able to mentor me with the bug?
  744. # [12:12] <KaiRo> srishti: I'm not sure if I can tell you a specific person, try asking in #10n who can help
  745. # [12:12] <KaiRo> er, in #l10n
  746. # [12:13] <srishti> okay
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  785. # [12:46] <robertbindar> I'm sorry for not giving the error message, it was very late and i fell asleep. If someone still wants to help me, the error message is: " error: ‘XUL_CACHE_DISABLED’ is not a member of ‘mozilla::Telemetry’ ". I've to say that I added the entry in Histograms.json.
  786. # [12:48] <mjrosenb> I've heard that there is something that should be defined in all of b2g's source files (other than MOZ_B2G)
  787. # [12:48] <mjrosenb> (is MOZ_B2G even defined?)
  788. # [12:49] <robertbindar> Is moz_b2g the complete name of the file? i can't find it
  789. # [12:49] <@smaug> mounir: you might remember ^
  790. # [12:50] <mjrosenb> well, not all of b2g's source files, but the mozilla ones (e.g. not the kernel)
  791. # [12:51] <mounir> I don't understand the question
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  793. # [12:52] <mjrosenb> I have a declaration in the js engine that I only want active in b2g, not in fennec or desktop builds
  794. # [12:52] <mjrosenb> what macro should I be testing for?
  795. # [12:52] <mounir> mjrosenb: MOZ_B2G
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  797. # [12:53] <mjrosenb> ok. in that case, the structure of these files is not what I'm expecting.
  798. # [12:53] <mounir> this is set when --enable-application=b2g is used
  799. # [12:54] <mjrosenb> other question: where is that defined? it doesn't look like it is passed in on the command line.
  800. # [12:54] <mounir> (see configure.in and b2g/confvars.sh)
  801. # [12:56] <mjrosenb> ~/tmp; zgrep -c 'gcc.*MOZ_B2G' try-ics_armv7a_gecko-bm14-try1-build5033.txt.gz
  802. # [12:56] <mjrosenb> 0
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  805. # [13:01] <mjrosenb> it looks like -DMOZ_B2G is being passed into make, but not the individual compilation commands?
  806. # [13:01] * mjrosenb is very confused.
  807. # [13:02] <Ms2ger> That's what mozilla-config.h is for, no?
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  811. # [13:04] <gfritzsche> hm, is it possible to convince gdb to automatically attach to child process and catch crashes in both childs and parent?
  812. # [13:04] <AryehGregor> Pretty sure yes.
  813. # [13:04] <AryehGregor> There's an option for it, no?
  814. # [13:05] <gfritzsche> i only found out about the fork-follow policy so far
  815. # [13:05] <gfritzsche> which only gives me either child or parent
  816. # [13:05] <AryehGregor> I don't really know how to do much more than basic stepping, so I guess I shouldn't volunteer to help. :)
  817. # [13:05] <gfritzsche> might very well be basic stuff i'm overlooking, so input welcome :)
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  829. # [13:15] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: ahh, mozilla-config.h. Thanks!
  830. # [13:16] <Ms2ger> Np
  831. # [13:16] <mjrosenb> is there a way that I can see the contents of that file from a try push?
  832. # [13:16] * mjrosenb cannot figure out why b2g isn't building with my asm.js patches.
  833. # [13:18] <Ms2ger> Mm
  834. # [13:19] <Ms2ger> Hack the build system to cat it at some point during the build?
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  836. # [13:24] <mjrosenb> that sounds annoying
  837. # [13:24] <mjrosenb> a possible 'plan b'
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  850. # [13:34] <gabor> msucan: ping
  851. # [13:34] <msucan> gabor: pong
  852. # [13:35] <gabor> msucan: hi, what's up with bug 851695? do we still need it?
  853. # [13:35] <gabor> msucan: I want to file/land the BackstagePass related part of it, since we talked with Bobby about it, and we need that anyway
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  855. # [13:36] <msucan> gabor: the devtools code will soon switch to the jetpack loader
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  857. # [13:37] <msucan> where we can add the |console| object to the global for our tools
  858. # [13:38] <msucan> gabor: however, jsm's could still benefit from having the |console| object added to each backstagepass object (iianm that's how you call jsm globals?)
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  860. # [13:38] <msucan> gabor: i did not yet have time to work on the bug, this is why i was silent
  861. # [13:39] <msucan> i suggest you go ahead and land the backstagepass work you did
  862. # [13:39] <gabor> msucan: alright, for now I will file/land the part I was talking about and is a pre-req for this bug too, and then if we need it let me know and I will help with the rest, if not then we'll just close it down
  863. # [13:40] <gabor> sounds good
  864. # [13:40] <msucan> right, go ahead and do the stuff you need to
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  867. # [13:40] <msucan> gabor: thank you :)
  868. # [13:41] <gabor> np :)
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  875. # [13:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70176237e018 - Jonathan Kew - bug 832524 pt 2 - position of the menu gutter rule in the app menu needs to be sensitive to resolution. r=dao
  876. # [13:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9da2aa52affc - Jonathan Kew - bug 832524 pt 3 - use higher-resolution menuitem icons when available on hidpi display. r=dao
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  884. # [13:54] <jfkthame> anyone know if Hannes Verschore hangs out on irc?
  885. # [13:55] <jfkthame> bug 858617 is liable to be backed out shortly unless there's a fix upcoming...
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  890. # [13:59] <nigelb> 36
  891. # [13:59] <nigelb> grr
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  901. # [14:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ff7a49bd2e6 - Jonathan Kew - backout bd072e286fc0 (bug 858617) for assertion failures in check-jit-test
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  903. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> jfkthame, h4writer in #jsapi, fwiw
  904. # [14:05] <jfkthame> well, it's done now
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  906. # [14:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59e93bff76d4 - Randell Jesup - Bug 845741: Set mUpdateFinished under lock r=roc
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  915. # [14:11] <digitsm> hello
  916. # [14:11] <digitsm> does "hg log" in a specific folder show the log of changesets which affect that folder?
  917. # [14:11] <digitsm> it shows the log of whole repo?
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  919. # [14:12] <digitsm> *Or it ...
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  921. # [14:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88a6559918c8 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 858617: IonMonkey: When inlining box unknown inputs, r=nbp
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  923. # [14:16] <Ms2ger> digitsm, the whole repo
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  927. # [14:19] <Ms2ger> Looks like hg log foo/ works
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  929. # [14:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c181daeb66c - David Burns - Bug 814037 - Check overflow x and overflow y when doing visibility checks with Marionette. Atom updated. r=mdas
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  933. # [14:25] <digitsm> Ms2ger: it didn't work
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  935. # [14:26] <digitsm> Ms2ger: got it. to make it work someone should be in the root of repo
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  945. # [14:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7307ecec02c - Julien Wajsberg - Bug 858833 - During an update, downloadAvailable is sometimes not reset to false after an error when it should. r=fabrice
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  947. # [14:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c390a34a1663 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 843445 - B2G MMS: Provide nsIDOMMobileMessageManager.retrieveMMS() to retrieve MMS for the deferred retrieval mode, part-2:mms_service. r=vyang, r=gene.lian,
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  949. # [14:33] <firebot> sr=sicking
  950. # [14:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2ce06b2fa04 - Cykesiopka - Bug 794410 - Prevent drag and dropping an about: tab to the download button downloading the associated XUL file. r=paolo
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  955. # [14:36] <khuey> uh
  956. # [14:36] <khuey> is the tree busted?
  957. # [14:36] * khuey can't build locally after clobbering ...
  958. # [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cefb5e955455 - Mark Finkle - Bug 765155 - Missing associative icons for recommended add-on listing on about:home r=bnicholson a=bajaj
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  960. # [14:37] <AutomatedTester> khuey: trying now
  961. # [14:38] <AutomatedTester> I need a clean build anyway
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  964. # [14:41] <khuey> did somebody break the code that runs NSPR's configure?
  965. # [14:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e3bc8afeb76d - Josh Aas - Bug 843434 - Fix assert in nsUnicharStreamLoader. r=emk, a=bajaj
  966. # [14:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7485b8561100 - Wes Johnston - Bug 820022 - Add null check for layerView. r=margaret, a=bajaj
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  969. # [14:43] <khuey> uhhhh
  970. # [14:43] <khuey> glandium: ping?
  971. # [14:43] <glandium> khuey: pong?
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  973. # [14:44] <khuey> configuring in nsprpub
  974. # [14:44] <khuey> configure: warning: no configuration information is in nsprpub
  975. # [14:44] <khuey> configuring in js/src
  976. # [14:44] <khuey> configure: warning: no configuration information is in js/src
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  978. # [14:44] <khuey> glandium: ^
  979. # [14:44] <NeilAway> digitsm: you may have wanted hg log .
  980. # [14:45] <glandium> khuey: local build?
  981. # [14:45] <khuey> glandium: yep
  982. # [14:45] <glandium> khuey: what changeset?
  983. # [14:46] <khuey> tip
  984. # [14:46] <glandium> m-c or m-i?
  985. # [14:47] <khuey> glandium: if I back out c3361cd2e967 it works
  986. # [14:47] <khuey> m-i
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  988. # [14:47] <glandium> khuey: can you put the configure script somewhere?
  989. # [14:48] <khuey> glandium: the broken one?
  990. # [14:48] <glandium> khuey: yes
  991. # [14:48] <khuey> yeah just a sec
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  996. # [14:50] <khuey> glandium: http://khuey.pastebin.mozilla.org/2284966
  997. # [14:50] <khuey> ugh that cut off
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  1001. # [14:51] <khuey> glandium: http://people.mozilla.org/~khuey/configure-busted
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  1006. # [14:54] <glandium> khuey: it looks normal :(
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  1009. # [14:55] <glandium> khuey: can you put the output of "sh -x ../configure" (from the objdir) on people, too?
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  1011. # [14:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11f52a74cac4 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 855514: IonMonkey: Add fastpath for JSOP_TOID for ints and doubles that fit into an int, r=jandem
  1012. # [14:58] <khuey> glandium: configure-busted-2
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  1017. # [15:00] <glandium> khuey: is it me or did that run?
  1018. # [15:00] * khuey looks
  1019. # [15:00] <glandium> khuey: i see no "no configuration information" in there
  1020. # [15:01] <khuey> uh, that looks like it did
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  1025. # [15:02] <khuey> glandium: yeah so make -f client.mk fails, ../configure works ...
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  1029. # [15:03] <glandium> khuey: ../configure or sh ../configure ?
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  1031. # [15:04] <khuey> glandium: just ../configure is enough
  1032. # [15:04] <glandium> khuey: mmmm and make -f client.mk or pymake -f client.mk ?
  1033. # [15:04] <khuey> pymake
  1034. # [15:05] <glandium> could it be a new msys miracle?
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  1036. # [15:06] <glandium> khuey: can you change the CONFIGURE = $(TOPSRCDIR)/configure line from client.mk to add sh -x in it
  1037. # [15:06] <glandium> and push the log
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  1039. # [15:07] <khuey> glandium: so relative configure from the objdir works, absolute configure from the srcdir fails
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  1044. # [15:08] <glandium> khuey: what about absolute form the objdir?
  1045. # [15:09] <glandium> (because absolute from srcdir is not what client.mk does)
  1046. # [15:09] * khuey tests
  1047. # [15:09] <khuey> ah, yes
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  1049. # [15:10] <khuey> glandium: absolute from objdir fails too
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  1052. # [15:11] <glandium> khuey: so can you try again with sh -x ? :)
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  1054. # [15:12] <khuey> glandium: sh -x + absolute path from objdir fails
  1055. # [15:13] <glandium> khuey: i'd like the log from that ;)
  1056. # [15:13] <khuey> yep
  1057. # [15:13] <khuey> one sec
  1058. # [15:13] <glandium> khuey: and just in case, the log from sh -x /absolute/configure with a non busted configure
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  1060. # [15:14] <j4nu5> hi! i want to take part in this year's Google Summer of Code under Mozilla. "Enhanced Customization APIs" on the ideas page caught my eye ... anyone willing to discuss it a bit?
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  1063. # [15:15] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, did you verify that your fix for the imptests sync actually fixes the problem, or should I do a try run?
  1064. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, the b2g timeouts? The link to my try push is in the bug
  1065. # [15:16] <khuey> glandium: bad log is configure-busted-2
  1066. # [15:16] <AryehGregor> Oh, never mind.
  1067. # [15:16] <AryehGregor> Just saw that, sorry.
  1068. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> Np :)
  1069. # [15:16] <khuey> + ac_dots=../../
  1070. # [15:16] <khuey> + case "$srcdir" in
  1071. # [15:16] <khuey> + ac_sub_srcdir=../../c:/dev/mozilla-inbound/js/src
  1072. # [15:16] <khuey> + test -f ../../c:/dev/mozilla-inbound/js/src/configure
  1073. # [15:16] <khuey> + test -f ../../c:/dev/mozilla-inbound/js/src/configure.in
  1074. # [15:16] <khuey> + echo 'configure: warning: no configuration information is in js/src'
  1075. # [15:16] <khuey> configure: warning: no configuration information is in js/src
  1076. # [15:16] <khuey> looks relevant
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  1080. # [15:16] <Ms2ger> Tut tut
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  1082. # [15:17] <@khuey> kick me now stupid bot :-P
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  1085. # [15:17] <glandium> khuey: the mix of msys path and windows path doesn't look good
  1086. # [15:18] <glandium> khuey: what about the non-broken case?
  1087. # [15:18] <@khuey> still running
  1088. # [15:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6ac13733d48 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 851916 part 2 - createHTMLDocument() should work with no arguments; r=bz
  1089. # [15:18] <@khuey> j4nu5: you want to talk to jorgev
  1090. # [15:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2963140e620 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 851916 part 1 - Update dom/imptests/webapps/ and harness; r=Ms2ger
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  1092. # [15:18] <@khuey> j4nu5: but I don't know where he hangs out on IRC :-(
  1093. # [15:18] <@khuey> !seen jorgev
  1094. # [15:18] <@killer> I don't know who jorgev is.
  1095. # [15:19] <firebot> jorgev was last seen 2 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying 'it's also strange that he has a fairly small team and now it's being massively expanded' in #a-list.
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  1097. # [15:19] <@khuey> glandium: configure-good
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  1099. # [15:20] <j4nu5> khuey: yeah saw his name in the mentor list but couldnt find him on IRC .. will mail him .. thnx :)
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  1101. # [15:20] <bz> Hmm
  1102. # [15:20] <bz> is espindola not around anymore?
  1103. # [15:20] <Ms2ger> No
  1104. # [15:20] <@khuey> bz: he left
  1105. # [15:20] <Ms2ger> He got a better job than tracking late writes
  1106. # [15:20] <bz> And if so, whom do we cc on "clang miscompiles this code" bugs? :(
  1107. # [15:20] <bz> ms2ger: heh
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  1109. # [15:21] <Ms2ger> Can't really blame him, can you? :)
  1110. # [15:21] <AryehGregor> bz, oh, how about you answer me on bug 857102 before I do a try run?
  1111. # [15:21] <bz> nope
  1112. # [15:21] * bz looks
  1113. # [15:21] <bz> so seriously
  1114. # [15:21] <bz> clang
  1115. # [15:21] <glandium> bz: try froydnj
  1116. # [15:22] <bz> AryehGregor: done
  1117. # [15:22] <bz> glandium: thanks
  1118. # [15:23] <glandium> khuey: ok, found the problem
  1119. # [15:23] <glandium> khuey: a backout is in order
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  1121. # [15:24] <glandium> khuey: would you mind backing out for me, my tree is not in a state where i can
  1122. # [15:24] <@khuey> glandium: ok
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  1124. # [15:24] <glandium> thx
  1125. # [15:25] <AryehGregor> bz, they'll currently assert fatally if passed a null manager, probably followed shortly by a null pointer dereference somewhere (in non-debug builds). I guess that's good enough?
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  1128. # [15:25] <AryehGregor> E.g., NS_NewTextNode will dereference the pointer it's given unconditionally as it stands in non-debug builds.
  1129. # [15:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61f0e35aab01 - Kyle Huey - Back out Bug 788613 for breaking the build on Windows.
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  1131. # [15:26] <@khuey> glandium: done
  1132. # [15:26] <AryehGregor> bz, also, while I'm changing all the call sites anyway, should I change nsCOMPtr<nsIContent> to nsRefPtr<nsTextNode> etc., or leave them?
  1133. # [15:27] <bz> AryehGregor: yes
  1134. # [15:27] <AryehGregor> To both?
  1135. # [15:27] <bz> AryehGregor: to first one.
  1136. # [15:27] <AryehGregor> Okay.
  1137. # [15:27] <bz> AryehGregor: being enough
  1138. # [15:27] * bz is still reading second question
  1139. # [15:27] <bz> AryehGregor: changing is good, imo
  1140. # [15:27] <AryehGregor> Okay.
  1141. # [15:27] <AryehGregor> Easy enough.
  1142. # [15:28] <bz> AryehGregor: esp. because at least in nsDocument that lets you rip out some manual casting iirc
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  1144. # [15:28] <glandium> khuey: i think http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2285058 would fix it
  1145. # [15:29] <@khuey> glandium: is that a request for testing?
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  1147. # [15:29] <glandium> khuey: you can read it as such :)
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  1151. # [15:30] <AryehGregor> Hmm, but the current constructor inherits from the parent class constructor, which I'm not sure I can do here . . .
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  1155. # [15:30] <bz> AryehGregor: why not?
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  1158. # [15:31] <AryehGregor> bz, what should the declaration of the second constructor look like?
  1159. # [15:31] <AryehGregor> The current one is: nsTextNode(already_AddRefed<nsINodeInfo> aNodeInfo)
  1160. # [15:31] <AryehGregor> : mozilla::dom::Text(aNodeInfo)
  1161. # [15:31] <AryehGregor> {
  1162. # [15:31] <glandium> http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste ouch
  1163. # [15:31] <bz> AryehGregor: What's the argument to that second ctor going to be?
  1164. # [15:31] <AryehGregor> nsNodeInfoManager*.
  1165. # [15:31] <AryehGregor> Like NS_NewTextNode().
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  1167. # [15:32] <bz> AryehGregor: nsTextNode(nsNodeInfoManager *aNodeInfoManager) : mozilla::dom::Text(aNodeInfoManager->GetTextNodeInfo()) { }
  1168. # [15:32] <AryehGregor> Can I just make it: nsTextNode(nsNodeInfoManager* aNodeInfoManager) -- yeah, that.
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  1170. # [15:32] <AryehGregor> Nifty.
  1171. # [15:32] <@khuey> glandium: yep that works
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  1173. # [15:32] <glandium> khuey: ok thanks
  1174. # [15:33] <bz> But if the ctor body is nontrivial, maybe better to keep the NS_New method...
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  1178. # [15:33] * bz really wishes we could forward to our own other ctor
  1179. # [15:33] <bz> I guess we can factor out the comon bits into an Init() method if we need to.
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  1183. # [15:37] <bz> Anyone seen ehsan?
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  1187. # [15:38] <Callek> !seen ehsan
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  1189. # [15:38] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 3 days, 16 hours, 30 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying 'I've resigned from that position ;)' in #developers.
  1190. # [15:39] <Callek> ....well thats ominous
  1191. # [15:39] <@bz> aryehgregor: if you said anything in the last ~5 mins, I missed it.
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  1193. # [15:39] <AryehGregor> bz, I didn't.
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  1198. # [15:42] <annevk> bz: by WONTFIXING hasAttributes(), did you mean that we'll never consider removing it, or just not in that way?
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  1201. # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8078621fb2a - Lucas Rocha - Bug 854458 - Use different focus navigation direction on horizontal tabs tray (r=mfinkle)
  1202. # [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aca8116e7b0b - Lucas Rocha - Bug 854458 - Implement keyboard navigation in TwoWayView (r=mfinkle)
  1203. # [15:43] <@bz> annevk: the latter
  1204. # [15:43] <annevk> ta
  1205. # [15:44] <@bz> annevk: Though I don't see much point to removing it, to be honest
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  1207. # [15:44] <@bz> annevk: certainly not enough point to be worth the possible compat hit...
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  1210. # [15:45] <annevk> can say that about a lot of features we killed I suppose
  1211. # [15:46] * annevk shrugs
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  1214. # [15:49] <@khuey> RyanVM: do it!
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  1216. # [15:49] <RyanVM> khuey: sounds good to me
  1217. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> ... uh?
  1218. # [15:50] <@khuey> RyanVM: idk if it'll actually work though
  1219. # [15:50] <@khuey> nthomas|away seemed to think tha regular clobberer was having trouble too
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  1221. # [15:52] <RyanVM> khuey: do we have any theories for why this got so bad starting at the end of last week?
  1222. # [15:52] <RyanVM> the timestamp stuff has been going on since the network outages earlier last week
  1223. # [15:53] <bbondy> wchen: ping?
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  1238. # [16:03] <luisbg> I see the use of LOG_SCOPE_WITH_PARAM() in the code
  1239. # [16:03] <luisbg> how can I use/read these logs?
  1240. # [16:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27211859cb34 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 206bb159d62f, a6ab3e11f721, and a61aa08ab4ac (bug 837323) for frequent Windows fatal clobber errors on a CLOSED TREE.
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  1244. # [16:07] <@bz> esr17--
  1245. # [16:08] <@khuey> RyanVM: didn't autoclobber land at the end of last week?
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  1248. # [16:08] <RyanVM> no, it landed early last week
  1249. # [16:09] <RyanVM> bz: throw b2g18 in with that while you're at it
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  1251. # [16:09] <@bz> RyanVM: I did
  1252. # [16:10] <@bz> RyanVM: in the approval request
  1253. # [16:10] <RyanVM> ++
  1254. # [16:10] <@bz> but sure, b2g18--
  1255. # [16:10] <RyanVM> :)
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  1258. # [16:12] <AryehGregor> bz, so NS_NewXMLProcessingInstruction I shouldn't convert to a constructor, since it has the conditional to check for nsGkAtoms::xml_stylesheet? Or should I adapt it somehow?
  1259. # [16:12] <glob> bz, i'm poking at a bmo db issue (minor), and it may please you to know that you're by _far_ the most prolific commenter on bmo, with over 137,000 comments (ignoring tbplbot)
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  1262. # [16:14] <glob> philor comes second, far behind at ~ 57,000 comments
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  1265. # [16:14] <Ms2ger> Hear, hear
  1266. # [16:14] <jwir3> *sigh* so windows seems super unreliable on inbound these days, eh?
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  1268. # [16:15] <Ms2ger> jwir3, apparently clobbering breaks it now
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  1272. # [16:17] <JosiahOne> How can I move a patch I have applied to the top of my patch queue? I'm pretty sure it's possible.
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  1275. # [16:17] <@bz> glob: for some values of "please", sure. ;)
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  1277. # [16:18] <jwir3> JosiahOne: Without popping it?
  1278. # [16:18] <JosiahOne> jwir3: No, popping is fine.
  1279. # [16:18] <@bz> glob: I should clearly waste less time on Bugzilla... ;)
  1280. # [16:18] <jwir3> JosiahOne: oh, what I do is hg qpop -a
  1281. # [16:18] <@bz> glob: out of curiosity, how many total comments do we have?
  1282. # [16:18] <jwir3> JosiahOne: Then hg qpush --move <patch to move to top>
  1283. # [16:19] <glob> bz, haha, or everyone else should step up :)
  1284. # [16:19] <jwir3> JosiahOne: Then hg qpush until you get back to where you were
  1285. # [16:19] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Will hg qpush -a work as the last step?
  1286. # [16:19] <glob> bz, about 7.2m comments
  1287. # [16:19] <glandium> glob: an average number of comments per day of the account existing would be fairer ; i guess that'd put philor first
  1288. # [16:19] <jwir3> JosiahOne: Well, probably, but the thing is that I usually have a whole lot of patches in my queue, most of which I don't want to push, so it will push ALL the patches in your queue
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  1290. # [16:20] <glandium> but then philor probably has many comments that are now tbplbot
  1291. # [16:20] <glob> bz, and 734k attachments
  1292. # [16:20] <JosiahOne> jwir3: In this case that is fine. Thanks! That helps a lot.
  1293. # [16:20] <jwir3> JosiahOne: One more recommendation - make sure to fix bustage (i.e. where is says "Hunk XXXX FAILED") before continuing to push
  1294. # [16:20] <jwir3> JosiahOne: np
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  1296. # [16:20] <Ms2ger> glob, 734k attachments from bz?
  1297. # [16:21] <glob> Ms2ger, lol
  1298. # [16:21] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Yeah, for sure. Thanks.
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  1300. # [16:21] <jwir3> JosiahOne: Do you know how to apply patches with fuzz?
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  1303. # [16:22] <JosiahOne> jwir3: No, I was actually wondering about that. There have been multiple cases where my patches break because of added code.
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  1305. # [16:22] <jwir3> JosiahOne: One thing you can do is when a patch fails to apply, you can do the following: patch -p1 -R < .hg/patches/<patch that failed>
  1306. # [16:22] <jwir3> JosiahOne: Then, do the following: patch -p1 -F10 < .hg/patches/<patch that failed>
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  1310. # [16:23] <@bz> glob: so I have 1.6% of the total comments? :(
  1311. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> jwir3, -F10? I too like to live dangerously :)
  1312. # [16:23] <@bz> aryehgregor: just leaving it as a non-constructor is fine
  1313. # [16:23] <jwir3> JosiahOne: It applies the patch with more fuzz (10 lines in this case), meaning that it will try to do a less accurate job of comparing lines within 10 lines from the source, to try and get the right location to apply the hunk
  1314. # [16:23] <AryehGregor> bz, okay.
  1315. # [16:23] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Ah, interesting. Thanks.
  1316. # [16:23] <jwir3> JosiahOne: And, as Ms2ger points out, you may want to use -F<number < 10>
  1317. # [16:23] <jwir3> Ms2ger: I thought 7 was the default?
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  1319. # [16:24] <@bz> Also, sounds like I've averaging 30+ comments per day....
  1320. # [16:24] <@bz> I guess that's plausible
  1321. # [16:24] <Ms2ger> jwir3, default is 2 here
  1322. # [16:24] * jwir3 didn't realize that... holy cow does he live dangerously indeed
  1323. # [16:24] <jwir3> Perhaps it was better to not know...
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  1325. # [16:25] <@bz> the default -F value 2
  1326. # [16:25] <@bz> er, is 2
  1327. # [16:25] <jwir3> JosiahOne: so, yeah... use like 5 then. :)
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  1329. # [16:25] <JosiahOne> jwir3: :) Okay.
  1330. # [16:25] <@bz> And how much -F you want depends on 1) what -U the patch used and 2) What you're doing
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  1335. # [16:28] <Ms2ger> And 3) how well you're looking at the result
  1336. # [16:28] <jwir3> bz: I didn't know about the -U part... is there somewhere that you know of that explains the relationship between -U and -F?
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  1339. # [16:29] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Hmm… --move only moved it to the front of my queue. I want it as the last patch. Any ideas?
  1340. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> jwir3, -U gives the number of lines of context
  1341. # [16:30] <jwir3> JosiahOne: oh, then perform the --move on the other patches, and apply them in the order that you want
  1342. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, or edit the .hg/patches/series
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  1344. # [16:30] <JosiahOne> Hmm… Maybe I'll just pop all other patches, work on that one patch, then push them all back. I guess that works better.
  1345. # [16:30] <JosiahOne> Thanks jwir3 and Ms2ger.
  1346. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1350. # [16:32] <jwir3> np
  1351. # [16:32] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, so, would it be nifty if we had overloads like void FragmentOrElement::AppendChild(ChildNode*) that were infallible? :)
  1352. # [16:32] <@bz> jwir3: other than the "patch" manpage
  1353. # [16:32] <@bz> jwir3: ?
  1354. # [16:32] <@bz> jwir3: not offhand
  1355. # [16:32] <@bz> jwir3: well, diff and patch manpages in combination
  1356. # [16:32] <jwir3> bz: Yeah, I was looking at the manpage, but I didn;t know if there was a better doc somewhere. Apparently not. ;)
  1357. # [16:33] <@bz> basically, diff adds some amount of context
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  1359. # [16:33] <@bz> based on -U
  1360. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, if they really are infallible
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  1362. # [16:33] <@bz> then patch ignores some of it, based on -F
  1363. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, but I'm not sure this one would be :)
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  1365. # [16:33] <@bz> So diff -U 20 and then patch -F 18 is the same as diff -U 3 and then patch -F 1
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  1367. # [16:34] <jwir3> bz: Ah, gotcha. And the default I have for unified is 8, so that's probably where I got confused
  1368. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> <dolske> good news: having a summit, bad news: in antartica.
  1369. # [16:37] <sheppy> Hey, with the global warming, it's downright toasty there.
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  1372. # [16:37] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, it looks like it can fail if the new content is anonymous. Or, of course, in the face of mutation events. :(
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  1374. # [16:37] <jwir3> Ms2ger: Actually, I'm all for that! I someday want to visit all 7 continents, and Antarctica will be the hardest to reach. :)
  1375. # [16:38] <jwir3> Ms2ger: So, checking that off the life-list would be awesome. :)
  1376. # [16:38] <Ms2ger> jwir3, and having it paid by Mozilla, eh ;)
  1377. # [16:38] <AryehGregor> What else would it be fun and not entirely impractical to make infallible?
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  1380. # [16:38] <AryehGregor> (or, I could go back to, like, actual work)
  1381. # [16:38] <jwir3> Ms2ger: Well, that, and being with a bunch of other Mozillians to minimize my risk of dying there. ;)
  1382. # [16:39] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, well, so... Your reflection tests? ;)
  1383. # [16:39] <AryehGregor> Those must be horrifyingly outdated.
  1384. # [16:39] <AryehGregor> It's almost pointless to try to write tests like that unless the spec editor is going to keep them updated.
  1385. # [16:39] <Ms2ger> The first two chunks, not anymore, because I updated them :)
  1386. # [16:39] <AryehGregor> Yay :)
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  1391. # [16:41] <Ms2ger> But if you still remember how it works, then I've hit an issue with foo.dir = null I'd love not to have to figure out myself :)
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  1396. # [16:43] <mjrosenb> # if (defined(ANDROID) && !defined(MOZ_B2G)) && !defined(__BIONIC_HAVE_UCONTEXT_T)
  1397. # [16:43] <mjrosenb> that shouldn't be inclued for b2g builds, correct?
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  1403. # [16:44] <jryans> is there a simple way to pause a mochitest mid-run and interact with the browser?
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  1405. # [16:44] <NeilAway> bz: not true, because diff -U 20 might join hunks together and then no amount of patch -F will fix a change in the inner context :s
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  1413. # [16:49] <Ms2ger> Ah, here's ehsan
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  1417. # [16:52] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: hello
  1418. # [16:52] <Ms2ger> bz, ^
  1419. # [16:53] <RyanVM> gabor: ping
  1420. # [16:53] <gabor> RyanVM: hi
  1421. # [16:53] <RyanVM> gabor: hi :)
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  1423. # [16:53] <RyanVM> gabor: saw your blog post about JP being visible on Try
  1424. # [16:54] <RyanVM> gabor: JP is also visible on inbound - was that intentional?
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  1426. # [16:54] <RyanVM> gabor: because it's not on m-c
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  1428. # [16:55] <gabor> RyanVM: I think so.. let me try to look it up the bug, but I think edmorley might know more
  1429. # [16:55] * gabor looking
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  1432. # [16:56] <RyanVM> gabor: seems odd that we'd show them on inbound and not m-c
  1433. # [16:56] <philor> I unhid it on inbound, because I didn't want to sit through another round of bustage, greenup
  1434. # [16:56] <gabor> RyanVM: sorry it was philor: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854451#c5
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  1436. # [16:57] <RyanVM> gabor: also, there's a few intermittent failures (I filed a couple more over the weekend) - is there someone actively working on them?
  1437. # [16:57] <philor> Ed seemed to be saying he was going to do it in general, but I haven't looked at his bugzilla realname lately to see if he's in or out
  1438. # [16:57] <RyanVM> philor: he's on PTO today
  1439. # [16:57] <gabor> RyanVM: I think the best person who could answer this question is ochameau
  1440. # [16:58] <RyanVM> gabor: I just want to make sure somebody's working on them :)
  1441. # [16:58] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, would be nice to be able to ask firebot if people are pto :)
  1442. # [16:58] <RyanVM> and I'm going to un-hide on m-c and fx-team
  1443. # [16:58] <gabor> RyanVM: do you have a bug number? I'll check it for you
  1444. # [16:59] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: doable in theory with some changes to the PTO app I'd think
  1445. # [16:59] <RyanVM> gabor: one sec
  1446. # [16:59] <RyanVM> gabor: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=intermittent-failure%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=6231786&resolution=---&classification=Client%20Software&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug%20creation]&query_format=advanced&chfieldfrom=2013-04-05&product=Add-on%20SDK
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  1451. # [17:02] <gabor> RyanVM: anyway, tomorrow is the jetpack weekly meeting so if no one is working on them yet I'll bring it up there
  1452. # [17:02] <RyanVM> gabor: sounds good, thanks
  1453. # [17:02] <RyanVM> gabor: i'm going to un-hide them on m-c and fx-team
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  1456. # [17:04] <gabor> RyanVM: alright, thanks for that
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  1467. # [17:11] <RyanVM> khuey: and yes, as expected, backing out autoclobber doesn't fix the underlying issue (we just hit it on the backout push too)
  1468. # [17:11] <@khuey> RyanVM: yeah that's what nthomas|away expected
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  1475. # [17:14] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: what he do?
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  1477. # [17:14] <ioana> Hi all. Is there anyone here that works/worked on the Firefox main menu?
  1478. # [17:14] <@smaug> gavin might remember ^
  1479. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, asked to be shouted at if we didn't hear from him in bug 850159 last week
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  1481. # [17:15] <@smaug> Ms2ger: you should shout only in #content ;)
  1482. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> smaug, #content is loud enough ;)
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  1484. # [17:16] <@gavin> ioana: what's the question under the question? :)
  1485. # [17:16] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, what does CallQueryInterface() do, relative to do_QueryInterface?
  1486. # [17:16] <AryehGregor> It just returns an nsresult in addition?
  1487. # [17:17] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, crash if your pointer is null
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  1489. # [17:17] <AryehGregor> Ah.
  1490. # [17:18] <ioana> gavin: Is there another way of initializing the disable attribute for the Restore Previous Session than clicking the History menu item?
  1491. # [17:18] <ioana> gavin: I'm trying to test that it's true for private windows, but it seems impossible to click the main menu on Mac from Mozmill tests, so I need to initialize it some other way
  1492. # [17:18] <Ms2ger> It think that's about it
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  1500. # [17:23] <AryehGregor> Um, is there any possible way for a ProcessingInstruction to be an nsIStyleSheetLinkingElement? http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/content/xml/document/src/nsXMLContentSink.cpp#l1259
  1501. # [17:23] <AryehGregor> Oh, if it's an XML stylesheet instruction, interesting . . .
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  1505. # [17:25] <@gavin> ioana: given that there's no platform specific code here, I would just skip that test on Mac only
  1506. # [17:26] <@gavin> ioana: i.e. have the test always pass on mac without actually doing a check, or however you handle per-platform tests in mozmill
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  1511. # [17:30] <ioana> gavin: yeah, that would be our only option for now. thanks
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  1513. # [17:30] <@bsmedberg> jst: ping
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  1518. # [17:31] <@bsmedberg> jst: I'm tagging you for sr in bug 738396, but feel free to redirect it if there's somebody else who should do it.
  1519. # [17:32] <jst> bsmedberg: sounds good
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  1538. # [17:45] <AryehGregor> smaug, why does the nsRange constructor set mRoot to nullptr instead of aNode?
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  1544. # [17:45] <AryehGregor> There doesn't seem to be much point in making the nsRange temporarily invalid . . .
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  1548. # [17:47] <@smaug> AryehGregor: trying to remember... tbsaunde would remember better :)
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  1554. # [17:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e19ace7a61e4 - ISHIKAWA, Chiaki - Bug 859267 - Compile time warning: js/src/jsapi.h has an extra comma, and a semicolon r=jonco
  1555. # [17:50] <tbsaunde> smaug: AryehGregor aNode arg to nsRange constructor was just to be used as parent object since the nodes for the ends could be adoptNode()ed into other compartments and whatnot
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  1557. # [17:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbdc376f08fe - David Burns - Bug 838607 - Added explicit wait for element to appear before carrying on the test. r=mdas
  1558. # [17:51] <tbsaunde> AryehGregor: I think me and smaug talked about this a while ago and the conclussion was that really you should just have to provide bounds when creating a range
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  1560. # [17:51] <AryehGregor> tbsaunde, then the constructor will be able to fail.
  1561. # [17:51] <AryehGregor> Why not require a document, so it maps to Document::CreateRange() exactly?
  1562. # [17:52] <tbsaunde> AryehGregor: how would it fail?
  1563. # [17:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba6d123bef6e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 856455 - Make nsCOMArray::SetCapacity return void; r=bsmedberg
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  1565. # [17:52] <AryehGregor> tbsaunde, pass offsets that are negative or too big?
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  1572. # [17:54] <tbsaunde> AryehGregor: I think we were probably talking about static method or method on document (not C++ constructor exactly)
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  1574. # [17:54] <tbsaunde> AryehGregor: or if its only called by C++ we can just say thou shalt not do that
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  1576. # [17:55] <@bz> ok, I need a volunteer
  1577. # [17:55] <@bz> the CSS loader has a bus factor of 1
  1578. # [17:55] <@bz> who wants to make it 2?
  1579. # [17:55] <AryehGregor> What's a bus factor? :)
  1580. # [17:55] * Ms2ger runs and runs and runs
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  1582. # [17:55] <@bz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
  1583. # [17:55] <@khuey> we just need to spray bz in bus repellant
  1584. # [17:55] <@khuey> and we'll be good
  1585. # [17:55] <AryehGregor> Heh.
  1586. # [17:55] <tbsaunde> bz: really? dbaron or dholbert don't know that?
  1587. # [17:56] <@bz> well
  1588. # [17:56] <@bz> dbaron claims not to and doesn't have time anyway
  1589. # [17:56] <tbsaunde> fair enough
  1590. # [17:56] <@bz> dholbert.. probably not but I can try drafting him as my volunteer
  1591. # [17:56] <@bz> My real question is "who's volunteering to review a patch to this code?"
  1592. # [17:56] <@bz> I mean...
  1593. # [17:56] <@khuey> if this is a serious question /me can try to learn
  1594. # [17:56] <@bz> it used to be me and sicking
  1595. # [17:56] <jcranmer> bz: we have a few parts of the project with a bus factor of 0
  1596. # [17:56] <@bz> jcranmer: sure
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  1598. # [17:57] <@khuey> we have parts with a bus factor of -1
  1599. # [17:57] <@bz> but getting sicking to review anything is ..
  1600. # [17:57] <@bz> khuey: want me to toss the review request at you for now, then?
  1601. # [17:57] <tbsaunde> yeah
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  1604. # [17:57] <@khuey> bz: want, no
  1605. # [17:57] <@khuey> bz: will object, no
  1606. # [17:57] <@bz> khuey: ok
  1607. # [17:57] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: you could use CallQueryInterface if you have an nsIFoo** but it's probably easier to use a temporary nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> and then .forget() it
  1608. # [17:57] <@bz> khuey: heh
  1609. # [17:57] <@khuey> bz: ;-)
  1610. # [17:57] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: also, you can get the nsresult fro do_QueryInterface if you're that keen
  1611. # [17:57] <@gavin> khuey wants it I can tell
  1612. # [17:57] <@bz> khuey: alright, let's try it. But do be willing to tell me to go to hell if it's too ridiculous
  1613. # [17:58] * @bz thinks the cssloader is overcomplicated. :(
  1614. # [17:58] <@khuey> bz: it may be a few days before I tell you to go to hell
  1615. # [17:58] * @khuey should probably do some reviews
  1616. # [17:58] <@gavin> it just has to load CSS what's so hard?!
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  1618. # [17:59] <@bz> khuey: This patch has been waiting on reviews since October
  1619. # [17:59] <@bz> khuey: a few days is not going to be a big deal
  1620. # [17:59] <@khuey> haha
  1621. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> khuey, probably :)
  1622. # [17:59] <@khuey> way to go sicking
  1623. # [17:59] <@bz> khuey: I'm also totally happy to talk through things as desired
  1624. # [17:59] <@bz> gavin: well, start with the fact that it supports both sync and async loads
  1625. # [17:59] <@bz> gavin: and sync loads that it makes _look_ async....
  1626. # [18:00] <RyanVM> bz: RE: khuey - that's always been my MO too :P
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  1629. # [18:00] <@khuey> bz: I think we need to talk about this owner business
  1630. # [18:00] * NeilAway wonders whether Mozilla will pay him to learn the CSS loaded
  1631. # [18:00] <NeilAway> *loader
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  1633. # [18:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4b40143af7b5 - Shane Caraveo - bug 858704 new providers for beta, r+a=gavin
  1634. # [18:01] <@bz> khuey: which owner business?
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  1636. # [18:01] <@bz> gavin: and then there's the weird bits of it... ;)
  1637. # [18:01] <Waldo> NeilAway: not when you're away so much (although maybe you beat sicking in this case ;-) )
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  1639. # [18:01] <@bz> gavin: recursion protection, encoding conversions, caching, other caching, coalescing, prioritization....
  1640. # [18:02] <NeilAway> Waldo: well, I wouldn't be away if I was in the London office :-)
  1641. # [18:02] <@bz> gavin: it could really use an actual design instead of organic growth. :(
  1642. # [18:03] <@gavin> bz: I can always count on your for earnest answers to my mostly-joking dumb questions :)
  1643. # [18:03] <@bz> gavin: ;)
  1644. # [18:03] <@dolske> so you're saying we only need 1, maybe 2 busses to force an improved rewrite?
  1645. # [18:04] <@bz> dolske: lol
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  1647. # [18:04] <@bz> dolske: what we _need_ is someone bright-eyed and bushy-tailed with no other commitments.
  1648. # [18:04] <@bz> dolske: like an intern, or ms2ger 2-3 years ago or something
  1649. # [18:04] <@khuey> mmm interns
  1650. # [18:05] <Ms2ger> bright-eyed and bushy-tailed?
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  1653. # [18:05] <froydnj> bright-eyed and prickly-tailed?
  1654. # [18:05] <@smaug> Ms2ger: bz is saying you used to be bright-eyed 2-3 years ago :)
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  1659. # [18:06] <@bz> ms2ger: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/be+bright-eyed+and+bushy-tailed
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  1661. # [18:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1f9f2bcaf16 - Patrick McManus - bug 857291 - fix 807678 regression of DNS::GetCanonicalName r=josh
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  1688. # [18:17] <@ehsan> bz: did you file a bug about bugzilla setting unload event listeners? :(
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  1694. # [18:17] <glob> ehsan, he did. we found the problem on friday, will fix this week
  1695. # [18:17] <@ehsan> cool
  1696. # [18:17] <@ehsan> thanks
  1697. # [18:17] <glob> ehsan, bug 852279
  1698. # [18:18] <@bz> ehsan: see above
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  1700. # [18:18] <@bz> ehsan: also, see your review queue. ;)
  1701. # [18:18] <@bz> ehsan: and happy Monday!
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  1703. # [18:18] <@ehsan> bz: see your bugmail with two r+'es ;)
  1704. # [18:18] <@ehsan> more coming presumably, still going through my queue!
  1705. # [18:18] <@bz> ehsan: Awesome
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  1712. # [18:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/962ec303ced2 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 837323 - Automatically clobber when CLOBBER is updated; r=ted, glandium
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  1721. # [18:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b56af2a80519 - Trevor Saunders - bug 856779 - make nsStyleSet::Init() return void r=dholbert
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  1723. # [18:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eebe60eebd95 - Trevor Saunders - bug 856779 - remove nsFrameManager::Init() r=dholbert
  1724. # [18:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/590e354d2750 - Trevor Saunders - bug 856779 - kill NS_NewPresShell() r=bz
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  1727. # [18:28] <jesup> aha, auto-clobber...
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  1729. # [18:28] <robertbindar> Does anyone have any idea about how a telemetry could count only true values, even if Accumulate is called either with true or false?
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  1738. # [18:32] <ejpbruel> i want to add an idl file to xpfe/appshell/public, should I change anything in the Makefiles for the build system to pick it up?
  1739. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Yes
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  1741. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, add to XPIDL_SOURCES in xpfe/appshell/public/moz.build
  1742. # [18:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be4612e105b1 - Trevor Saunders - bug 856349 - remove useless SHORT_LIBNAME assignments r=glandium
  1743. # [18:33] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: thanks mate :)
  1744. # [18:33] <Ms2ger> Np :)
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  1757. # [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e59593a4baa1 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 857589 - Bail out without warnings when no plugins registry key is present. r=bsmedberg
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  1761. # [18:39] <Waldo> bz: is there a console warning about using unload event listeners? we should add one if there's not
  1762. # [18:39] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: does XPCOM have a smart way to forward the interface on one object to another one? or do i just have to manually forward all the calls?
  1763. # [18:39] <Ms2ger> ejpbruel, C++?
  1764. # [18:39] <ejpbruel> Ms2ger: yes
  1765. # [18:40] <@bz> Waldo: There is not, and not sure about adding one.....
  1766. # [18:40] <Ms2ger> NS_FORWARD_(interfaceName.toUpperCase())(Super::)
  1767. # [18:40] <@bz> ejpbruel: there are several different NS_FORWARD macros
  1768. # [18:40] <@bz> ejprbuel: take a look at your generated .h file
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  1770. # [18:40] <@bz> ejpbruel: The one generated from the xpidl
  1771. # [18:40] <ejpbruel> bz: ok, thanks
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  1778. # [18:42] <ejpbruel> this could take a while
  1779. # [18:42] <ejpbruel> my laptop died, and this backup machine is sloooooooow in comparison :(
  1780. # [18:42] <RyanVM> jlebar: fwiw, while your latest patch may not have fixed the failures outright, it does seem to have made them less frequent
  1781. # [18:42] <sfink> bz: do you know of anything that requires structured clone buffers to be portable between machines?
  1782. # [18:43] <@bz> sfink: er....
  1783. # [18:43] <@bz> sfink: I don't know
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  1786. # [18:44] <@khuey> sfink: indexeddb
  1787. # [18:44] <sfink> current spec'ed behavior seems to make it impossible for them to be portable across endiannesses, but I realized I don't actually know of anything that implies they *should* be endian-portable
  1788. # [18:44] <sfink> khuey: right, that's where I started, but what says that needs to be portable?
  1789. # [18:44] <@khuey> the part where you're supposed to be able to copy profiles from machine to machine
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  1791. # [18:45] <sfink> are you?
  1792. # [18:45] <@bz> yes
  1793. # [18:45] <@khuey> yes
  1794. # [18:45] <Ms2ger> Across endiannesses?
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  1796. # [18:45] <@bz> our support for it is so-so
  1797. # [18:45] <@bz> but in general, if your profile is in NFS
  1798. # [18:45] <@bz> (or AFS or any networked home directory setup)
  1799. # [18:45] <@bsmedberg> stuart: ping
  1800. # [18:45] <@bz> Anything that goes into a profile needs to be defined-endianness
  1801. # [18:46] <@bz> and byte-swapped as needed on read
  1802. # [18:46] <@bsmedberg> or throwaway on endian-change
  1803. # [18:46] <sfink> hm, ok. Well, if you are going to allow cloning typed arrays views that share a buffer, you can't be endianness-portable
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  1805. # [18:46] <sfink> well, you can, but then you'll need to fix endianness on every read
  1806. # [18:46] <jimb> Are we working towards being able to having multiple processes share the same profile? Or are profiles always going to be single-process?
  1807. # [18:47] <bent> sfink, this is why dherman hates typed arrays i think
  1808. # [18:47] <Waldo> bz: why not sure? seems to me if you write the message correctly, to discourage use due to adverse performance impacts, it should be fine to warn
  1809. # [18:47] <@khuey> jimb: outside of e10s that's a non-goal
  1810. # [18:47] <sfink> bent: technically, I think he hates the current spec and the way they are spec'ed, not the notion of typed arrays, but I'm not sure
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  1812. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> sfink, why not? All typed arrays are LE anyway
  1813. # [18:48] <Waldo> Ms2ger: I think that's still being debated, actually
  1814. # [18:48] <@bz> Waldo: because it might warn all over the place
  1815. # [18:48] <jimb> khuey: You mean, beyond the fact that e10s processes obviously need to share a profile with their parent process, it's a non-goal? Okay --- that makes sense.
  1816. # [18:48] <Waldo> bz: hmm, really? :-\
  1817. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> Waldo, lots of things that won't change are still being debated :)
  1818. # [18:48] <@bz> waldo: but you're welcome to check!
  1819. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> Waldo, the weather, North Korea, ...
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  1822. # [18:49] <Waldo> Ms2ger: I think that one's more open to change than many others, since there are big-endian things out there
  1823. # [18:49] <sfink> Ms2ger: if you store them on disk LE (which you should), then a BE machine would need to byte-swap on every read
  1824. # [18:49] <@khuey> jimb: write, and the profile sharing infrastructure is built into e10s
  1825. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> sfink, and?
  1826. # [18:49] <@bz> ms2ger: c.f. http://www.snob.ru/i/indoc/user_23992/907760b99f3ebbf996eaea4e35bb2889.jpg
  1827. # [18:49] <jimb> khuey: Okay, that makes sense.
  1828. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> bz, :)
  1829. # [18:49] <@khuey> jimb: er, right, not write
  1830. # [18:50] <@khuey> jimb: brain is in review mode :-/
  1831. # [18:50] <jimb> :D
  1832. # [18:50] <RyanVM> mccr8++
  1833. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> Leave khuey alone
  1834. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> He needs to finish my review :)
  1835. # [18:50] <@khuey> heh
  1836. # [18:50] <sfink> Ms2ger: and nothing. Just means that life sucks on BE. They'd have to keep their in-memory ArrayBuffers LE, or remember which was which. Not the end of the world, since nothing BE seems to run a browser.
  1837. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> sfink, life sucks on BE before you get to browsers
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  1840. # [18:51] <froydnj> unless you're reading hexdumps!
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  1842. # [18:51] <@bz> we have people filing bugs on AIX
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  1844. # [18:51] <@bz> of course they have bigger problems, like "JS::Value does not work"
  1845. # [18:52] <froydnj> people are running web browsers on mips hardware (set-top and the like); they might be using little-endian mips, though
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  1849. # [18:53] <Waldo> Ms2ger: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2013-March/029543.html fwiw regarding browsers on big-endian
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  1855. # [18:55] <ejpbruel> i should be able to build m-c with Apple clang version 2.0 (tags/Apple/clang-139) (based on LLVM 2.9svn), right?
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  1857. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> i cant install the latest xcode because i dont have (mountain) lion on this system, and i dont have an upgrade dvd
  1858. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> so I installed llvm with clang using homebrew
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  1861. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> 0:09.97 checking for llvm pr8927... yes
  1862. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> 0:09.97 This compiler would miscompile firefox, plase upgrade.
  1863. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a2cc1ec0a50 - Chris Lord - Bug 856497 - Fix dynamic viewport sizing for margin changes. r=kats
  1864. # [18:56] <ejpbruel> any help would be appreciated!
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  1869. # [18:59] <froydnj> ejpbruel: what does the last bit of config.log say?
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  1872. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> froydnj: configure:10866: clang -o conftest -O2 -Qunused-arguments conftest.c 1>&5
  1873. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> configure: failed program was:
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  1877. # [19:00] <ejpbruel> either brew did not install the latest version or im sitll using the old one
  1878. # [19:01] <froydnj> hm. what does clang -v say?
  1879. # [19:01] <ejpbruel> froydnj: Apple clang version 2.0, that cant be right
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  1881. # [19:02] <froydnj> ejpbruel: yeah, that sounds a little bogus. what does |hash -r; clang -v| say?
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  1884. # [19:04] <ejpbruel> froydnj: oh hold on
  1885. # [19:04] <ejpbruel> there is another clang somewhere that my shell finds first
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  1887. # [19:04] <froydnj> yeah, PATH may need to be reordered
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  1892. # [19:05] <ejpbruel> froydnj: almost 10 years of writing code and i still mess this up
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  1894. # [19:05] <bbondy> wchen: ping?
  1895. # [19:05] <froydnj> ejpbruel: :)
  1896. # [19:06] <wchen> bbondy: pong
  1897. # [19:06] <bbondy> wchen: hey! do you think you'll have time to do that review today?
  1898. # [19:06] <wchen> bbondy: yeah
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  1901. # [19:06] <bbondy> wchen: awesome, thanks!
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  1903. # [19:06] <jrmuizel_> glandium: ping
  1904. # [19:07] <glandium> jrmuizel_: pong
  1905. # [19:07] <jrmuizel_> glandium: I'm seeing the following build error on OS X on the graphics branch https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21530526&tree=Graphics
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  1907. # [19:08] <glandium> jrmuizel_: bug 837618
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  1911. # [19:08] <jrmuizel_> glandium: do you know why we'd be only seeing it on graphics branch?
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  1916. # [19:10] <@bsmedberg> How do I convert a DOM File to a string?
  1917. # [19:10] <@bsmedberg> ASCII/UTF8 is fine
  1918. # [19:10] <@khuey> the contents of it?
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  1920. # [19:10] <@khuey> FileReader
  1921. # [19:11] <glandium> jrmuizel_: could be because "graphics" is longer than "m-cen"
  1922. # [19:11] <@khuey> bsmedberg: FileReader.readAsText(file)
  1923. # [19:11] <jrmuizel_> glandium: ah that could be
  1924. # [19:11] <@khuey> bsmedberg: and then listen for onload
  1925. # [19:11] <@bsmedberg> khuey: FileReader or FileReader() }
  1926. # [19:11] <@khuey> var fr = new FileReader();
  1927. # [19:11] <glandium> jrmuizel_: try asking releng to change it to "gfx"
  1928. # [19:12] <@khuey> fr.onload = function(event) { alert(event.target.result); };
  1929. # [19:12] <@khuey> fr.readAsText(file);
  1930. # [19:12] <@khuey> something like that
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  1937. # [19:16] <jrmuizel_> glandium: ok thanks
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  1944. # [19:19] <j4nu5> John-Galt: have some free time to discuss "Enhanced Customization APIs" under GSoC 2013? thanks ...
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  1975. # [19:34] <froydnj> taras: something about those patches is making things go pear-shaped, but I can't tell whether the backout on nightly worked because the dashboard doesn't show me anything after 3 april
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  1985. # [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7684baafb4e3 - Shane Caraveo - bug 855389 fix social toolbarbutton structure to work with themes/etc, r=felipe
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  1994. # [19:43] <John-Galt> j4nu5: At a conference today. I'll be around later, though.
  1995. # [19:43] <philor> tbsaunde: you might have desktop Windows b2g bustage, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21549770&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  1996. # [19:44] <j4nu5> John-Galt: k .. thnx .. ive sent u a mail ...
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  1998. # [19:44] <RyanVM> philor: was wondering if that's a needs-clobber issue
  1999. # [19:44] <philor> tbsaunde: or maybe you needed to clobber and you should touch /CLOBBER so we'll find out whether the reland works :)
  2000. # [19:44] <philor> somebody sure needs to touch it, before we merge
  2001. # [19:45] <taras> froydnj: time to run some pydoop
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  2004. # [19:47] * @khuey read that as pypoop
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  2008. # [19:49] <taras> dcamp: or someone else. how does one get projects into official mozilla github?
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  2010. # [19:50] <RyanVM> philor: the second retrigger on that Bg is post-clobber
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  2013. # [19:51] * philor waves goodbye to tbsaunde
  2014. # [19:51] <RyanVM> heh
  2015. # [19:51] <RyanVM> philor: well, that one hasn't gone red *yet*
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  2017. # [19:52] <mconnor> taras: you just need to get someone with admin rights to move it, I think
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  2019. # [19:53] <taras> mconnor: who would that someone be?
  2020. # [19:54] <mconnor> taras: sec, asking someone who'll know better
  2021. # [19:54] <philor> oh, second *retrigger*
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  2023. # [19:55] <taras> khuey: that is my general impression of hadoop :)
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  2032. # [19:58] <RyanVM> philor: yeah, the first one was a reflexive retrigger from this morning's festivities
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  2034. # [19:59] <RyanVM> philor: "red Windows build - RETRIGGER"
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  2041. # [20:01] <philor> RyanVM: and for extra fun, he actually got one on his push, which was green, despite the multiple ignored known ERRORs
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  2047. # [20:02] <RyanVM> philor: so I'm going to push a CLOBBER follow-up and re-open inbound
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  2050. # [20:03] <philor> "Couldn't clobber properly, bailing out." so it was actually a clobber, or as close as we get to a clobber
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  2054. # [20:03] <tbsaunde> philor: hi, looking (sorry was at lunch)
  2055. # [20:03] <philor> glandium: I find it really really hard to believe that we have never successfully clobbered with the clobberer, and never noticed before; possible, but really hard to believe
  2056. # [20:03] <nemo> Say, is there a list of sites using browserid/persona anywhere?
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  2061. # [20:05] <glandium> philor: let me make it clear: we've never used the clobber code that's failing before
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  2064. # [20:05] <philor> glandium: I'm not talking about CLOBBER's clobbers, I'm talking about the clobberer's clobbers
  2065. # [20:06] <tbsaunde> philor: so you decided I just need a clobber? O.O
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  2067. # [20:06] <nemo> I ask 'cause the list on persona website is just a few examples. I was surprised that my mobile phone company was offering it to sign into my account
  2068. # [20:06] <philor> glandium: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21550013&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1 and find bailing out
  2069. # [20:06] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: the post-clobber retrigger would suggest as much
  2070. # [20:06] <philor> tbsaunde: yes, we're just looking for someone in the office with you who will deliver the clobbering
  2071. # [20:06] <nemo> people at work feel better when big names trust X before using it themselves, so a list would help
  2072. # [20:06] <glandium> philor: then i don't know what you're talking about
  2073. # [20:07] <tbsaunde> philor: thanks :p
  2074. # [20:07] * tbsaunde has no idea why any of that would have required a clobber ... :/
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  2076. # [20:08] <philor> glandium: I'm talking about the clobberer, which uses http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/tools/clobberer/clobberer.py#38, saying that it's unable to get the job done, and when nthomas looked, the likely cause seemed to be that NSS created its EXPORT headers without write permission for anyone
  2077. # [20:08] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21549770&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2078. # [20:08] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: /me packs up and goes home, philor's got it apparently
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  2080. # [20:09] <philor> RyanVM: I've got nothing!
  2081. # [20:09] <glandium> philor: huh? that code explicitely deals with that case
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  2083. # [20:10] <@khuey> RyanVM: get back to the mines!
  2084. # [20:10] * @khuey cracks the whip
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  2090. # [20:14] <mconnor> taras: apparently there's a bunch in #webdev who can help you out
  2091. # [20:15] <taras> thanks mconnor
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  2100. # [20:19] <jwir3> ehsan: ping?
  2101. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3250333a5e6c - Matt Brubeck - Bug 859349 - Saving .mozbuild/warnings.json fails if .mozbuild doesn't exist [r=gps]
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  2104. # [20:20] <nemo> Is email-od.com used by Mozilla Persona for e-mail verification?
  2105. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Never heard of it
  2106. # [20:21] <nemo> hm.
  2107. # [20:21] <nemo> perhaps ting.com is using their own auth server
  2108. # [20:21] <nemo> huh. but the auth popup is login.persona.org
  2109. # [20:22] <nemo> if it is Mozilla's, it is being kinda stupid about mail delivery ☹
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  2112. # [20:22] <@ehsan> jwir3: hi
  2113. # [20:22] <@ehsan> padenot: ping
  2114. # [20:22] <padenot> ehsan: pong
  2115. # [20:22] <jwir3> ehsan: can you suggest another reviewer for bug 824965?
  2116. # [20:23] <@ehsan> padenot: do you think you can land your r+ed patches today?
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  2118. # [20:23] <padenot> ehsan: I can
  2119. # [20:23] <@ehsan> jwir3: hmm, not sure, try dholbert?
  2120. # [20:23] <@ehsan> padenot: great, thanks!
  2121. # [20:23] <padenot> I'm addressing the comments/rebasing as we speak
  2122. # [20:23] <@ehsan> super!
  2123. # [20:23] <@ehsan> padenot: let me know if my review comments on the doppler shift patch do not make sense
  2124. # [20:24] <jwir3> ehsan: ok, thanks
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  2126. # [20:24] <padenot> ehsan: I think they do make sense, but I haven't looked in the details
  2127. # [20:25] <@ehsan> padenot: hmm, actually, I think the first patch breaks looping...
  2128. # [20:25] <@ehsan> give me a sec
  2129. # [20:25] <padenot> I tested using looping
  2130. # [20:26] <@ehsan> padenot: looks like loopStart/loopEnd is broken
  2131. # [20:26] <dholbert> jwir3, hmm, that patch is mostly in /content, so based on that at least, you probably want sign-off from a DOM peer
  2132. # [20:26] <dholbert> jwir3, I'm happy to look at it though
  2133. # [20:26] <@ehsan> see this test case: http://people.mozilla.org/~eakhgari/webaudio/loop.html
  2134. # [20:26] <nemo> Ms2ger: is there a persona channel on IRC? #browserid had like one person, and #persona was empty
  2135. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> No idea
  2136. # [20:26] <@ehsan> padenot: try that with chrome and a firefox with your patches
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  2138. # [20:26] <@ehsan> in the second build I just get a full loop
  2139. # [20:26] <padenot> ehsan: ok
  2140. # [20:26] <jedp> nemo, Ms2ger - hi! we're in #identity
  2141. # [20:26] <nemo> 'k
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  2143. # [20:27] <WaltS> try #identity
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  2149. # [20:29] <jwir3> dholbert: ok, I would appreciate it if you would take a look at it, and then maybe recommend who to forward it to for review?
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  2172. # [20:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a65e8af95d39 - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 837051 - Store less buffers for video playback at MediaOmxReader. r=doublec
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  2174. # [20:40] <mconnor> gerv: why are you signing bugmail responses?
  2175. # [20:41] <gerv> Habit.
  2176. # [20:41] <gerv> Always have.
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  2178. # [20:41] <mconnor> I have no idea how I've never noticed...
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  2180. # [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0c903d9ade4 - Scott Johnson - Bug 600100, Part 2: Force a vertical resize even if our available height hasn't changed in anonymous blocks of a column set so we don't crash. [r=mats]
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  2183. # [20:43] <Ms2ger> mconnor, also noticed how he correctly punctuates all his IRC messages? :)
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  2186. # [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13943daf18f8 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 846275 - Intermittent problem on first install w/ win8 prompt not having firefox listed. r=jimm
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  2190. # [20:44] <philor> RyanVM: I did your "reflexive retrigger from this morning's festivities" one better, because I just this minute realized it wasn't the Windows Bg that was burning
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  2193. # [20:45] <RyanVM> ahahaha
  2194. # [20:45] <RyanVM> touche
  2195. # [20:45] <RyanVM> lmao
  2196. # [20:45] <philor> I was looking that the clobber, and... it's clobbering *Linux* directories? how could that be?
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  2201. # [20:46] <KaiRo> does safe mode turn off the JITs or does it leave those on?
  2202. # [20:46] <RyanVM> off
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  2204. # [20:46] <KaiRo> ok, thx
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  2206. # [20:46] <RyanVM> np
  2207. # [20:46] <KaiRo> explains the behavior a user is seeing in a bug :)
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  2210. # [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cee523a84f6b - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 858359 - Remove Selectable context menu options on input and textareas when there is text and no selection. r=jimm
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  2217. # [20:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a584c882786 - Trevor Saunders - bug 856349 - fix review comment r=me
  2218. # [20:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68fc259ff3e0 - Trevor Saunders - bug 858896 - crash if sdnAccessible is constructed with a null node r=davidb
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  2229. # [20:55] <padenot> ehsan: fixed
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  2242. # [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/88f47f3fe367 - Patrick McManus - bug 857291 - fix 807678 regression of DNS::GetCanonicalName r=josh a=bajaj
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  2244. # [20:59] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: inbound red
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  2246. # [21:01] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: h?
  2247. # [21:02] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: link?
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  2250. # [21:02] <RyanVM> tbpl inbound tip?
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  2252. # [21:02] <RyanVM> check-sync-dirs.py
  2253. # [21:02] <Ms2ger> Knew it
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  2255. # [21:02] <jhammel> i hate that thing
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  2257. # [21:03] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: god dam it
  2258. # [21:03] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: mind a bustage fix?
  2259. # [21:03] <RyanVM> go for it
  2260. # [21:03] <RyanVM> CLOSED TREE
  2261. # [21:03] <tbsaunde> jhammel: ==
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  2264. # [21:03] <mbrubeck> the dreaded check-sync-dirs
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  2270. # [21:06] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: pushed
  2271. # [21:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba408deda605 - Trevor Saunders - bug 856349 - bustage fix because check-sync-dirs.py sucks landed on a CLOSED TREE
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  2276. # [21:08] <philor> poor check-sync-dirs, getting the blame for the situation it tries to make as tolerable as possible
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  2279. # [21:09] <TheOne> Gijs: congrats!!
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  2282. # [21:10] <jhammel> philor: my problem is less with the script than for the need for the script which i can never precisely remember but everytime it is explained to me i cry
  2283. # [21:10] <Gijs> TheOne: thanks! :)
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  2287. # [21:12] <tbsaunde> jhammel: basically that js wants to ship seperate releases
  2288. # [21:12] <philor> jhammel: the way I explain it, "because it used to be possible to check out and build just SpiderMonkey, when we used CVS," seems to be particularly tears-of-rage inducing
  2289. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> philor++
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  2296. # [21:13] <jhammel> tbsaunde: yeah, i vaguely recall that...just not sure why keeping basically a large set of dupes in our repository is the right solution
  2297. # [21:13] <jhammel> but again, i don't need to cry today, let alone about this
  2298. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> jhammel, hint: it isn't
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  2300. # [21:14] <jhammel> Ms2ger: (i know!)
  2301. # [21:14] <jorendorff> yeah, belittling other people's needs sometimes irks those people
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  2309. # [21:19] <@bz> jorendorff++
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  2319. # [21:23] <tbsaunde> bz: to be fair "js/src/ is enough to build the js shell" isn't true in any case because of mfbt and js/public atleast
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  2323. # [21:24] <@bz> tbsaunde: sure
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  2337. # [21:35] <@ehsan> padenot: thanks, will take a look
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  2340. # [21:36] <@bsmedberg> what sort of binary magic would cause a uint64 to overflow like this: it's supposed to go from 7fff0000 to 80870000 but instead it's going to ffffffff80870000
  2341. # [21:38] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: it's a sint32 sign-extended to 64-bits?
  2342. # [21:38] <@ehsan> padenot: r=me, thanks
  2343. # [21:38] <davidb> should symbols for aurora be found on symbols.mozilla.org/firefox ?
  2344. # [21:38] <@bsmedberg> davidb: yes
  2345. # [21:38] <davidb> hmm
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  2347. # [21:38] <davidb> not working for me
  2348. # [21:39] <davidb> bsmedberg: specifically for firefox-22.0a2.en-US.win32.zip
  2349. # [21:40] <@bsmedberg> davidb: IIRC the .zip ones aren't signed and therefore never work
  2350. # [21:40] <@bsmedberg> you have to use the .installer.exe
  2351. # [21:40] <davidb> doh
  2352. # [21:40] <davidb> tbsaunde: ^
  2353. # [21:40] <@khuey> ha
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  2355. # [21:40] <davidb> bah
  2356. # [21:40] <davidb> bsmedberg: ty
  2357. # [21:40] <davidb> khuey: :P
  2358. # [21:41] <davidb> it would be handy if i could just download the pdb for a zip version
  2359. # [21:41] <davidb> ted: do we have those?
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  2362. # [21:41] <@bsmedberg> if they aren't on symbols.mo, no
  2363. # [21:41] <davidb> darn
  2364. # [21:42] <tbsaunde> davidb: huh ok, well I grabbed the zip first because I was hoping it wasn't stripped or whatever and gdb could just deal with it
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  2366. # [21:42] <davidb> tbsaunde: with symbols?
  2367. # [21:42] <davidb> oh gdb
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  2369. # [21:43] <davidb> tbsaunde: i'll find the installer
  2370. # [21:43] <tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, I was hping it had symbols
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  2372. # [21:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f5c58257d65 - Mark Finkle - Bug 858872 - Make Favicon service a little smarter about failed favicons r=bichnolson
  2373. # [21:44] <tbsaunde> davidb: binutils has some amount of support for PE
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  2377. # [21:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39fbc0bcfa1f - Mark Finkle - Bug 856739 - AwesomeBar.onDestroy does DB access on the main thread r=lucasr
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  2383. # [21:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78457232611a - Mark Finkle - Bug 859434 - Close thumbnail cursor in TopSitesView r=lucasr
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  2387. # [21:48] <davidb> symbols loaded :)
  2388. # [21:49] <davidb> bsmedberg: you are true to your job title.
  2389. # [21:49] <@bsmedberg> it is my aspiration in life ;-)
  2390. # [21:49] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: ping?
  2391. # [21:49] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: pong
  2392. # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7ec1554d481 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 854868 - Make srcdir and objdir paths match for in accessible/tests [r=tbsaunde]
  2393. # [21:49] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: if I can talk about the stack-class static analysis with you for a bit
  2394. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: I feel like I don't like your answer :-(
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  2397. # [21:50] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: may I ask why?
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  2399. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: In general with analysis, I feel like we should aim for minimal annotations if we can infer things
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  2401. # [21:50] <@bsmedberg> thus avoiding stuff like java "throws IOException"
  2402. # [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e01b8a81990 - Ben Turner - Bug 858674 - 'Tweak SQLite pragmas on mobile devices for space savings'. r=khuey.
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  2404. # [21:51] <@bsmedberg> and my goal is to make nsAutoString a stack class again
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  2406. # [21:51] * jcranmer thinks
  2407. # [21:51] <@bsmedberg> but it's nested inside other things which are stack classes currently but I don't want to impose the annotation burden on everyone if they are already using the classes correctly
  2408. # [21:51] <jcranmer> well, the problem with that is it implies that nsAutoString can't be used as a member of aregular class
  2409. # [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35178de36bd3 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 855704 - Use pushPrefEnv instead of setBoolPref in webspeech tests. r=smaug
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  2411. # [21:51] <sewardj> smaug: ping
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  2413. # [21:52] <@smaug> sewardj: pong
  2414. # [21:52] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: that is what I would like to imply, indeed
  2415. # [21:52] <sewardj> smaug: you're using F17, right?
  2416. # [21:52] <jcranmer> hmm, I would disagree about that
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  2418. # [21:52] <jcranmer> but you're the one in charge of xpcom, so your opinion matters and mine doesn't there :-)
  2419. # [21:52] <@smaug> sewardj: F18
  2420. # [21:52] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: well, your does matter
  2421. # [21:52] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: but maybe I don't understand what "regular class" means
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  2423. # [21:53] <jcranmer> I make a regular xpcom class that implements nsIFoo
  2424. # [21:53] <sewardj> smaug: have you had any problems with gold crashing when linking libxul?
  2425. # [21:53] <@bsmedberg> why would it be a good idea to have an autostring member on something unless it's always a stack-allocated thing?
  2426. # [21:53] <jcranmer> cache locality, sometimes
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  2428. # [21:54] <@smaug> sewardj: nope
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  2430. # [21:54] <@smaug> though, I wasn't using for awhile.
  2431. # [21:54] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: okay, I can see why you'd disagree about the member thing
  2432. # [21:54] <@smaug> (just forgot to enable it)
  2433. # [21:54] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: what about making inheritance require stack class?
  2434. # [21:54] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: I don't believe it. You're trading off memory usage, and in most cases you'll get better performance by buffer sharing for those strings anyway...
  2435. # [21:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42904845f8a2 - Bobby Holley - Bug 856840 - Kill FindWrapper. r=mrbkap
  2436. # [21:55] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: why should inheritance behave differently than membership?
  2437. # [21:55] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: (I'm mostly relating it to terms like nsAutoTArray<Foo, 1>, say)
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  2439. # [21:55] <sewardj> smaug: I have gold claiming is out of memory, and the machine has 8GB memory and 10GB swap
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  2443. # [21:56] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: inheritance is a different type of relationship than membershi[p
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  2445. # [21:56] <@smaug> sewardj: I was actually using old ld yesterday and it ended up swapping (I have 8GB). gold takes about 2GB
  2446. # [21:57] <sewardj> smaug: only if you don't have -g .. I am seeing process sizes of > 6GB
  2447. # [21:57] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: I admit I care less about the inheritance case, but I also think that the behavior ought to be as magic as possible...
  2448. # [21:57] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I tend to like things being more explicit since there's less surprises
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  2450. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: I guess that depends on whether people read the class headers or not ;-)
  2451. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg> I'll bet most people don't regularly read class headers, and are going to be surprised either way
  2452. # [21:58] <@bsmedberg> and it's annotation burden
  2453. # [21:58] <@smaug> this is just plain normal ac_add_options --enable-debug
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  2456. # [21:59] <jcranmer> I suppose the difference is I'm the type of person who'd plaster my code with MOZ_OVERRIDE
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  2463. # [21:59] <jcranmer> the problem with magic is that it's harder to see what's going on
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  2466. # [21:59] <jwir3> heh
  2467. # [22:00] <jduell> hsivonen: ping
  2468. # [22:00] <jwir3> jcranmer: that should be a quote somewhere
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  2470. # [22:00] <jcranmer> granted, clang's warning system makes it easier to make notes as to why something fails than gcc's does
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  2472. # [22:01] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: hmm, would you mind if missing annotations was a warning instead of an error?
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  2475. # [22:01] <froydnj> how is clang's warning system "easier" in this context?
  2476. # [22:01] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: hrm. I feel like it really either needs to be one or the other
  2477. # [22:01] <sewardj> smaug: this is --enable-debug --enable-optimize="-g -O -freorder-blocks" --enable-debug-symbols
  2478. # [22:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b9d6e04de88 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 857250: Remove unused typedef from IonCompartment::getVMWrapper. r=dvander
  2479. # [22:01] <@bsmedberg> we either expect people to add MOZ_STACK_CLASS liberally, or we don't
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  2483. # [22:02] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: in order to do the correct chain warnings in GCC I had to save off a bunch of location information
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  2487. # [22:03] <sewardj> ted: have you heard of anything along the lines of gold claiming to have run out of memory?
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  2490. # [22:03] <jcranmer> froydnj: the warning infrastructure in clang makes it easy to attach multiple notes for a single warning/error
  2491. # [22:03] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: so I think there's a bit of a difference MOZ_OVERRIDE can't really be infered, but inheriting classes automatically being stack classes feels like dtrt to me
  2492. # [22:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d26b014749ba - Ralph Giles - Bug 857022 - Remove MOZ_MEDIA from the layout module. r=cpearce
  2493. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8846d94297a - Ralph Giles - Bug 857022 - Remove MOZ_MEDIA build-time define. r=ted
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  2496. # [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c130590bbe8c - Ralph Giles - Bug 857022 - Remove MOZ_MEDIA from parser. r=smaug
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  2500. # [22:04] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: in the end, I guess it comes down to a difference of opinion
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  2505. # [22:05] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: how would you feel about checking in the current solution and deferring automatic inferral to a followup bug?
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  2508. # [22:05] <jlebar> Can we use >> to close nested templates these days? It seems to be compiling on try, which is baffling. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=52f7e9568509
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  2510. # [22:06] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: on all platforms? It was platform-specific for a while
  2511. # [22:06] <@bz> our compilers deal
  2512. # [22:06] <froydnj> jcranmer: you can do exactly the same thing in gcc
  2513. # [22:06] <@bz> others do not
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  2515. # [22:06] <jlebar> bsmedberg: It hasn't finished compiling everywhere.
  2516. # [22:06] <froydnj> jlebar: try may not be using the minimum supported compilers
  2517. # [22:06] <jcranmer> jlebar: I think it's supported by all compilers on tier-1/tier-2 stuff, but I saw a bug somewhere complaining that we didn't do it
  2518. # [22:06] <tbsaunde> jlebar: I think I saw a patch land to get rid of that a couple days ago to break old gcc we theoretically support :/
  2519. # [22:06] <jcranmer> er, tht we did it
  2520. # [22:06] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: ugh, let me see if froydnj and ehsan have opinions about automatic versus explicit inference
  2521. # [22:07] <jlebar> Huh. I'm surprised that even our tier1/tier2 supports that. But thanks for clarifying that we don't want to do it.
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  2523. # [22:07] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: on what?
  2524. # [22:07] <jcranmer> froydnj: I'm comparing to the old dehydra stuff, which was gcc 4.3/4.4
  2525. # [22:07] <jcranmer> froydnj: clang's warnings really kicked gcc into high gear
  2526. # [22:07] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: whether MOZ_STACK_CLASS should automatically apply to classes with members or derived classes, or whether we should require an explicit annotation
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  2530. # [22:08] <froydnj> jcranmer: having replicated some of those clang warnings in gcc, I know :)
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  2534. # [22:09] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: I can be convinced of automatic propagation of that attribute... but I think jcranmer should land his current patch in its current form
  2535. # [22:09] <jcranmer> it's at times annoying
  2536. # [22:09] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: ok, go ahead
  2537. # [22:09] <froydnj> tbsaunde: bz doesn't like them either, IIRC
  2538. # [22:09] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I have definitely heard from some people that they are annoying
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  2542. # [22:09] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: I like that they have more whitespace which breaks things up when you have a trillion errors :-)
  2543. # [22:10] <jcranmer> I'm not thrilled with coloring, personally
  2544. # [22:10] <jcranmer> and they can quickly get very very verbose
  2545. # [22:10] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: heh, so I actually like that gcc's are fairly compact
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  2549. # [22:11] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: and now for something completely different
  2550. # [22:12] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: do you have any comments on the xpidl enum thing?
  2551. # [22:12] <@bsmedberg> I had it open this morning
  2552. # [22:12] <@bsmedberg> I need to read it really carefully, or delegate it to somebody
  2553. # [22:12] <@bsmedberg> but I cannot think of an obvious person to delegate it to
  2554. # [22:12] <jcranmer> that's the problem I have with xpidl
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  2556. # [22:12] <jcranmer> I can't think of who actually owns it
  2557. # [22:12] <froydnj> bsmedberg: yeah, gcc doesn't do a great job of saving location information for later use (or using location information properly in warnings sometimes, either)
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  2569. # [22:17] <Waldo> jlebar: btw, >> to close nested templates won't work in code not compiled as C++11, which the JS engine is not -- although that's probably pretty easily fixt now
  2570. # [22:17] <jlebar> Waldo: I wasn't aware that we were compiling everything else as c++11, on all platforms.
  2571. # [22:17] <jlebar> Waldo: e.g. I thought b2g wasn't c++11 or something?
  2572. # [22:17] <jlebar> Waldo: I'd be pleased to hear I'm wrong!
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  2575. # [22:18] <jcranmer> jlebar: according to try, we compile b2g with gcc4.4 and --std=c++0x
  2576. # [22:18] <Waldo> jlebar: when JSAPI was a C header, there were issues with C++11 and C incompatibilities; now that JSAPI is C++, we could probably change that
  2577. # [22:18] <Waldo> could, perhaps should
  2578. # [22:18] <jlebar> jcranmer: huh, cool.
  2579. # [22:18] <Waldo> but I think js/src is the big exception to the c++0x rule
  2580. # [22:18] <Waldo> could be others, to be sure
  2581. # [22:18] <jcranmer> I'm getting pretty close to mandating that we compile C++11 mode on all supported compilers
  2582. # [22:18] <jcranmer> if we start using Char16.h, we will be at tht point
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  2585. # [22:20] <tbsaunde> Waldo: one good thing about js being somewhat seperate from jseng is not much we work on gets compiled there ;-)
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  2587. # [22:20] <Waldo> tbsaunde: I don't understand what you mean, to be honest
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  2590. # [22:21] <tbsaunde> Waldo: just that there's a lot of code in the tree that doesn't need to worry about jseng not compiling not as c++11 though maybe there are other places it needs to worry about
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  2593. # [22:22] <Waldo> tbsaunde: it's an issue for people changing the JS engine, and for people changing mfbt headers used by the JS engine, and not much else, I think
  2594. # [22:22] <Waldo> more people are changing mfbt these days, which is good
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  2596. # [22:23] <tbsaunde> Waldo: ok, so we agree :)
  2597. # [22:23] <Waldo> >> is such an old issue that most people know to work around it
  2598. # [22:23] <Waldo> JS separate makes for incredibly nice compile times, for JS people
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  2605. # [22:25] <Ms2ger> philor, do you know what I hit on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&pusher=Ms2ger@gmail.com ?
  2606. # [22:25] <nemo> say. does anyone else find that the persona popup on http://123done.org/ (after clicking on the sign in link) stays in foreground, such that it can't be placed behind the firefox window?
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  2608. # [22:25] <nemo> encountered this in nightly and stable, on my linux machine (Ubuntu 12.10, MATE)
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  2611. # [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ccdf3167644 - Chris Peterson - Bug 859229 - Part 3: Fix order of Java imports. r=kats
  2612. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c4b651f1a44 - Chris Peterson - Bug 859212 - Part 2: Add Android stock keyboard and TouchPal to list of gesture keyboards. r=jchen
  2613. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/566fa9aeec46 - Chris Peterson - Bug 859229 - Part 2: Remove redundant Java imports. r=kats
  2614. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d678fbf4ca2e - Chris Peterson - Bug 859212 - Part 1: Move AwesomeBar's Swype logic to InputMethods. r=jchen
  2615. # [22:26] <nemo> doesn't seem to happen to a test popup spawned w/ window.open and dude in identity channel swears they aren't setting that popup attribute and it doesn't happen to him
  2616. # [22:26] <dholbert> nemo, I see that as well
  2617. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1a739e3b5fa - Chris Peterson - Bug 859212 - Part 3: Remove unused InputMethod names. r=jchen
  2618. # [22:26] <nemo> interesting
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  2620. # [22:26] <dholbert> nemo, using Ubuntu 13.0r
  2621. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/430d73385b08 - Chris Peterson - Bug 859229 - Part 1: Remove unused Java imports. r=kats
  2622. # [22:26] <dholbert> *13.04
  2623. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79c23403daee - Chris Peterson - Bug 859212 - Part 4: Remove unused HKB whitelist. r=jchen
  2624. # [22:26] * nemo tries on OSX
  2625. # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd139be90362 - Chris Peterson - Bug 859229 - Part 4: Expand wildcard Java imports. r=kats
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  2627. # [22:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f971d287ba11 - <Brian Ecker> brianecker@gmail.com - Bug 852704: Created Java enums to encapsulate data formerly stored in int constants. r=cpeterson
  2628. # [22:27] <nemo> dholbert: yep. doesn't happen on OSX. hmmmm
  2629. # [22:27] <nemo> bug?
  2630. # [22:27] <dholbert> maybe
  2631. # [22:27] <dholbert> could be intentional-but-annoying
  2632. # [22:27] <nemo> perhaps something to do w/ window w/o minimise?
  2633. # [22:27] <dholbert> maybe
  2634. # [22:27] <nemo> dholbert: heh. I've run into that already w/ HTML5 fullscreen I think
  2635. # [22:28] <dholbert> the dialog is happy to go behind other windows
  2636. # [22:28] <nemo> dholbert: irritatingly, the keys that leave fullscreen are different on linux vs OSX/Windows
  2637. # [22:28] <nemo> dholbert: er. or is it OSX vs Linux/Windows
  2638. # [22:28] <nemo> anyway. really messes up gaming. Wish they just used Esc to leave fullscreen
  2639. # [22:28] <jlebar> RyanVM: For bug 856006, do you have a preference between my checking in attempts to fix the bug and my pushing them to try?
  2640. # [22:28] <nemo> I can't remember if I filed a bug on it
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  2643. # [22:28] <dholbert> but it insists on being the forwardmost firefox window, for that firefox profile
  2644. # [22:29] <nemo> dholbert: I wonder if it is something to do w/ https popup
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  2647. # [22:29] <philor> Ms2ger: you... broken nspr? how'd you do that?
  2648. # [22:29] * nemo goes to an https site and tests
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  2650. # [22:29] <philor> and how did I lose the ability to type today?
  2651. # [22:29] <RyanVM> jlebar: really?
  2652. # [22:29] <RyanVM> jlebar: lol, Try please :)
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  2654. # [22:30] <nemo> nope. nothing to do w/ https... hrm
  2655. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> philor, I wish I knew :)
  2656. # [22:30] <nemo> welp. let's see about removing controls
  2657. # [22:30] <RyanVM> jlebar: better the devil I know vs. the devil I don't - and like I said earlier, the failure rate does seem to be better than it was
  2658. # [22:30] <jlebar> RyanVM: I guess I was taking the fact that I wasn't getting made fun of for three failed attempts to fix the orange on m-i as a sign of approval.
  2659. # [22:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/418df13c8385 - Reuben Morais - Bug 858837 - Clean Contacts/Permissions/Settings build config files. r=khuey r=gwagner
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  2669. # [22:35] <philor> Ms2ger: and I was going to see about blaming your parent, but I can't even persuade https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/46396b66dcc8 to load to see who it might be
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  2671. # [22:35] <Ms2ger> philor, Aryeh's push for createHTMLDocument earlier
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  2676. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9133673bb8a4 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 857984 - mach mochitest now colorizes and prints failure summary; r=Ms2ger
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  2679. # [22:37] <jimb> jlebar: ping
  2680. # [22:37] <RyanVM> bent: that's some high quality bustage you've got there on inbound
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  2682. # [22:38] <jlebar> jimb: ack
  2683. # [22:38] * RyanVM tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...
  2684. # [22:39] <jimb> jlebar: Is there any reason nsIClassInfoImpl.h doesn't define THREADSAFE variants of NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS<n>_CI?
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  2686. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> jimb, no can do
  2687. # [22:39] <jimb> jlebar: Or it it just a matter of more cut-and-pastery?
  2688. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> jimb, no classinfo off the main thread
  2689. # [22:39] <jimb> interesting
  2690. # [22:39] <jlebar> jimb: Using a THREADSAFE object in JS sounds scary.
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  2692. # [22:40] <jimb> jlebar: I don't actually know if this class needs to be THREADSAFE or not...
  2693. # [22:40] <jimb> I suspect not...
  2694. # [22:40] <Ms2ger> jimb, does it need to have classinfo?
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  2699. # [22:40] <jimb> Ms2ger: I wanted to add classinfo to it. It's ContentParent, in dom/ipc/ContentParent.cpp
  2700. # [22:41] <Ms2ger> Why?
  2701. # [22:41] <jimb> Ms2ger: Because I'm hoping to be able to use it from JS.
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  2703. # [22:42] <tbsaunde> jimb: you don't need class info to poke at stuff from chrome js
  2704. # [22:42] <jimb> It doesn't give any evidence of doing any actual thread synchronization, so I have the feeling the THREADSAFE thing is just slapped on there out of habit. (So the fix would not be to extend classinfo to THREADSAFE, but to remove the THREADSAFE tag...)
  2705. # [22:42] <jimb> tbsaunde: I know --- but I would like it to work without needing to be QI'd
  2706. # [22:43] <RyanVM> and out she goes
  2707. # [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99cfae75ee7c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1e01b8a81990 (bug 858674) for Windows bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
  2708. # [22:43] <Ms2ger> jimb, just be aware that we want to kill classinfo, not add to it
  2709. # [22:43] <jimb> The real question here is definitely, does ContentParent really need NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS
  2710. # [22:43] <jimb> Ms2ger: And just make people QI everything? Or is there another way to get the JS objects to have the natural interfaces enabled by default?
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  2712. # [22:44] <Ms2ger> WebIDL
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  2714. # [22:44] <jimb> Ms2ger: And how does WebIDL address this?
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  2716. # [22:44] <jimb> Ms2ger: Do JS objects simply have all their interfaces enabled by default?
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  2718. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> There's a webidl file that lists everything exposed on the object
  2719. # [22:45] <Ms2ger> Anyway, heading off for the night
  2720. # [22:45] <jimb> Ms2ger: good night
  2721. # [22:45] <@bz> jimb: there is only one interface in webidl
  2722. # [22:45] <@bz> jimb: for any given object.
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  2725. # [22:46] <@bz> jimb: or rather there is only one prototype chain, and stuff on it
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  2727. # [22:46] <jimb> bz: I see. So it's always the full union of everything that the object supports.
  2728. # [22:46] <@bz> jimb: yes
  2729. # [22:46] <@bz> jimb: which is how normal JS objects work anyway
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  2731. # [22:46] <jimb> Okay. Then I don't see that it causes any problems if I add classinfo in the meantime, since I won't care if it goes away.
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  2733. # [22:46] <Mook_as> jimb: that appears to implement nsIThreadObserver, which claims things that implement it must be threadsafe
  2734. # [22:46] <@bz> well
  2735. # [22:46] <@bz> it causes one problem
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  2737. # [22:47] <@bz> we will want to remove the classinfo infrastructure
  2738. # [22:47] <jimb> Mook_as: Ah, I see.
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  2740. # [22:47] <@bz> now that will be blocked by first converting this object to webidl.
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  2742. # [22:47] <Mook_as> jimb: you can probably just do CI, AddRef, and Release separately
  2743. # [22:47] <@khuey> remove it, run the tests, see if we crash would be a decent strategy
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  2745. # [22:47] <@khuey> except b2g
  2746. # [22:47] <@khuey> :-(
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  2749. # [22:48] <@bz> jimb: which object is this again?
  2750. # [22:48] <jimb> ContentParent
  2751. # [22:48] <@bz> hmm
  2752. # [22:48] <jimb> dom/ipc/ContentParent.cpp
  2753. # [22:48] <@bz> and which interfaces do you want to expose via classinfo?
  2754. # [22:48] <jimb> There's a new one I'm adding.
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  2757. # [22:48] <jimb> The existing ones are pretty much for its internal use.
  2758. # [22:49] <jimb> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=797627&attachment=734189
  2759. # [22:49] <@bz> I see
  2760. # [22:49] <@bz> Do we already use these objects from JS?
  2761. # [22:49] <jimb> In particular, nsIContentChild.idl
  2762. # [22:49] <@bz> And if not, is there a reason to not do this interface as WebIDL to start with?
  2763. # [22:49] <jimb> bz: They appear as the subjects of observer notifications, like ipc:content-started
  2764. # [22:50] <@bz> (There may well be, fwiw!)
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  2766. # [22:50] <@bz> That would be fine on its own
  2767. # [22:50] <@bz> anyway
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  2770. # [22:50] <@bz> I guess just adding classinfo for now is ok
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  2772. # [22:50] <@bz> and we'll worry about this later. :(
  2773. # [22:50] <jimb> bz: I don't mind converting it to WebIDL, if it's not too much work.
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  2778. # [22:51] <jimb> bz: I'll need to take care of all the base classes, though, right?
  2779. # [22:51] <jimb> err, I mean, all the other interfaces it implements
  2780. # [22:51] <jimb> nsIObserver, nsIThreadObserver, nsIDOMGeoPositionCallback
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  2782. # [22:51] <@bz> jimb: well, that was the question
  2783. # [22:52] <@bz> jimb: whether anyone uses those from JS
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  2786. # [22:52] <jimb> I doubt it.
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  2791. # [22:53] <@bz> jimb: then you don't need to worry about them if you do webidl
  2792. # [22:53] <jimb> It's exposed to JS as the subject of notification, *but*, it doesn't have any interesting interfaces, so I don't think anyone does anything with them.
  2793. # [22:54] <@bz> Unless they call QI
  2794. # [22:54] <@bz> So if I have a security bug
  2795. # [22:54] <jimb> The only thing you could do is send it fake notifications and confuse it
  2796. # [22:54] <@bz> that needs fixing on trunk and aurora
  2797. # [22:54] <@bz> do I need to get sec-approval to land on m-c
  2798. # [22:54] <@bz> ?
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  2800. # [22:55] <derf> bz: My understanding is "yes".
  2801. # [22:55] <@gavin> bz: yes
  2802. # [22:55] * @bz sighs
  2803. # [22:55] <@bz> ok, then
  2804. # [22:55] <@bz> we'll just delay fixing this for another week or so....
  2805. # [22:55] <@gavin> shouldn't take a week
  2806. # [22:55] <@gavin> ping #security and they can look it over quickly
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  2810. # [22:57] <@bz> it usually takes about that long in my experience
  2811. # [22:57] <@bz> the amount of process so far for this one-line "initialize a variable" patch ... <sigh>
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  2813. # [22:58] <variable> O.o
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  2816. # [22:59] <taras> did google reader get removed from firefox's add rss feature?
  2817. # [22:59] <@gavin> yes
  2818. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba48781b74e4 - Mark Finkle - Bug 852787 - Do keyword DB lookup on background thread r=bnicholson
  2819. # [22:59] <@gavin> (bug 851010)
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  2821. # [22:59] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, we certainly have too much process sometimes, I wish I had ideas how to reduce it sanely
  2822. # [22:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/deef421f9169 - Mark Finkle - Bug 852787 - Skip keyword search if we have a URL r=bnicholson
  2823. # [22:59] <taras> thanks
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  2825. # [23:00] <@bz> tbsaunde: well, by trusting people more... which has its own issues. ;)
  2826. # [23:00] <@gavin> sec-approval is a bump, but it's not really that big of one
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  2828. # [23:01] <@gavin> and seems worth it if it actually helps avoid us screwing ourselves over on the security front like we have in the apst
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  2830. # [23:01] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah :(
  2831. # [23:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc8267682725 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 857135 - Remove Push components from android and desktop builds. r=jlebar
  2832. # [23:01] <derf> The only issue I've had with sec-approval is not knowing the rules changed on me.
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  2834. # [23:01] <derf> And that it was required now.
  2835. # [23:02] <derf> But if bz didn't know, I feel better.
  2836. # [23:02] <taras> gavin: it's unfortunate that one can't add a replament manually
  2837. # [23:02] <tbsaunde> gavin: yeah, but is it really necessary if you have approval to land everywhere and it hasn't made it to release?
  2838. # [23:03] <tbsaunde> derf: the problem is that its process which we have to spend time on instead of useful work
  2839. # [23:03] <@gavin> taras: there's a web api that sites can hook into to register themselves, IIRC?
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  2841. # [23:03] <jimb> What's a good example of an xpcshell tests that defines an XPCOM service in JS? The service shouldn't get installed, only gets used by the test.
  2842. # [23:03] <@dolske> there is definite benefit to having simple-to-follow process vs complex-and-optimized rules.
  2843. # [23:03] <@gavin> tbsaunde: well, maybe not, though it depends on whether the rel-mgmt team have considered the things in the sec-approval request comment
  2844. # [23:03] <jimb> dom/workers/test/extensions/traditional/WorkerTest.manifest ?
  2845. # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad371c559524 - Terrence Cole - Bug 857706 - Always allocate the self-hosting global in the tenured generation; r=billm
  2846. # [23:04] <@gavin> jimb: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/test/unit/test_about_protocol.js
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  2848. # [23:06] <tbsaunde> dolske: sure, but do you really think its reasonable that bz has to get someone to review initializing a variable then get it approved for branches and get security approval?
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  2850. # [23:06] <@bz> It may be
  2851. # [23:06] <@bz> depending on the variable
  2852. # [23:06] <jimb> gavin: Cool, thanks!
  2853. # [23:06] <@gavin> bz can circumvent the policies if he needs to
  2854. # [23:06] * @bz considered just landing it
  2855. # [23:06] <@bz> but people get unhappy
  2856. # [23:06] * @bz likes to keep people happy
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  2858. # [23:08] <tbsaunde> bz: fwiw I think it was pretty quick last time I asked on a bug in that spot
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  2862. # [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b84b3d484636 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 856428. Don't try to root an uninitialized value. r=peterv
  2863. # [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbc229932c90 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 765780 part 2. Simplify the docshell code that was trying to enable script in subframes of designMode documents. r=ehsan
  2864. # [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d37a93af33a8 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 858671. Make do_GetAtom infallible. r=khuey
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  2866. # [23:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65a949c811fb - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 810644 part 1. Switch setTimeout and setInterval to using WebIDL callback functions. r=smaug, sr=peterv
  2867. # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/729177f4b5c8 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 688691. Warn when LenientThis actually causes us to not throw. r=ms2ger
  2868. # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0d75e76d41f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 857417. Trigger a fatal assertion when wrapping a wrappercached and nsISupports WebIDL object which has the wrapper cache before the nsISupports in its object
  2869. # [23:10] <firebot> layout. r=khuey
  2870. # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d1f670b9d86 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 810644 part 2. Eliminate the now-unused CallEventHandler. r=smaug, sr=peterv
  2871. # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fc80e729a417 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 765780 part 1. Stop disallowing script and plug-ins in designMode documents. r=ehsan
  2872. # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d93dab0b19fc - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 857645. Make it possible to copy-initialize an nsCOMPtr<T> from an already_AddRefed<U> as long as U inherits from T. r=ehsan
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  2877. # [23:13] <jimb> gavin: So the way that works is by registering the service factory with the component registrar directly, thus avoiding involvement with manifest files or the like, that generally get installed. I think that'll work out for me nicely.
  2878. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db1d5109d172 - Randell Jesup - Bug 838380: don't crash browser on server 500 error r=abr
  2879. # [23:15] <@gavin> jimb: yep
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  2885. # [23:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/664a2230e5c7 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 843793 - Throw specific errors when a frame has frozen/crashed, r=mdas
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  2889. # [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c40b2d396c6 - Adam Roach [:abr] - # HG changeset patch
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  2892. # [23:19] <RyanVM> abr: nice commit message there
  2893. # [23:19] <abr> Sigh.
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  2898. # [23:20] <abr> Sorry about that. I was figuring the lines starting with # would get stripped out.
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  2900. # [23:21] <@bz> er...
  2901. # [23:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35179d807373 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 834034 - Migrate persdict.dat when resetting Firefox, r=MattN
  2902. # [23:21] <@bz> How did you import that patch?
  2903. # [23:22] <@bz> 'cause it lost the user too....
  2904. # [23:22] <abr> Downloaded from bugzilla, hg import on the patch.
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  2906. # [23:22] <abr> My usual workflow is hg qimport bz:#####, but that fails about 1 time out of 10 (like this one).
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  2908. # [23:23] <abr> If it's likely to cause heartburn, we can revert it, and I'll try relanding properly.
  2909. # [23:23] <RyanVM> abr: please backout and re-land (with DONTBUILD in the commit message so you dont trigger a new round of builds/tests for it)
  2910. # [23:24] <abr> (Strange, though -- https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c40b2d396c6 does show the metainformation just fine)
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  2917. # [23:25] <Jesse_> should we change the commit message hook to require the *first line* of the commit message to conform? (contain a bug number, etc)
  2918. # [23:26] <@gavin> sure
  2919. # [23:27] <Jesse_> unfortunately, changing the hook to be more restrictive does weird things to merges for a while
  2920. # [23:27] <abr> ryanvm: so commit for the backout: "Backed out changeset 6c40b2d396c6 DONTBUILD" is okay, right?
  2921. # [23:27] <abr> (I haven't sucessfully backed out before, so this is new ground)
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  2923. # [23:27] <RyanVM> abr: hang on
  2924. # [23:27] <RyanVM> abr: you want the DONTBUILD when you re-land, and you want to push the backout commit and re-land commit in one push
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  2927. # [23:28] <RyanVM> but the DONTBUILD has to be in the top commit message to work
  2928. # [23:28] <Jesse_> i don't think you need to back that out. the bug number is there. and it's just a test.
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  2931. # [23:28] <RyanVM> Jesse_: what's the harm?
  2932. # [23:28] <jesup> bz/abr/ryanvm: the problem was funky chars confusing mq/etc <U+FEFF>
  2933. # [23:28] <RyanVM> abr: also, hg out is your friend next time :)
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  2935. # [23:29] <jesup> Some of the patches written by Henrik and/or Jason have them, and it confuses hg qimport
  2936. # [23:29] <Jesse_> by "funky chars" you mean "a byte order mark"?
  2937. # [23:29] <jesup> ?
  2938. # [23:29] <jesup> :-)
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  2940. # [23:29] <abr> Okay, I'm not sure how to handle this import, then.
  2941. # [23:30] <RyanVM> abr: i'll do it
  2942. # [23:30] <jesup> I edit the patch file to remove the chars first
  2943. # [23:30] <abr> Because the feff wasn't visible in what I had the first time around.
  2944. # [23:30] <jesup> Emacs helpfully hides it
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  2946. # [23:30] <abr> I suspect vim is too clever, and treats the BOM as a BOM.
  2947. # [23:30] <Jesse_> jesup: file a bug against hg?
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  2949. # [23:31] <jesup> Though in the patched file it switches the cursor to a vertical bar when it's on the feff
  2950. # [23:31] <abr> RyanVM: thanks.
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  2952. # [23:31] <jesup> Ironically, I saw the "checkin-needed" and had a patch all set to go without the byte-order marks
  2953. # [23:31] <abr> heh.
  2954. # [23:31] <dholbert> abr, FWIW, if I were you I'd do the following: (1) hg backout $CSETID (2) hg qnew my-backout.patch (3) hg export $CSETID | hg qimport --name newversion.patch -m "Bug 123: the correct commit message r=whoever" (4) hg qpush (5) hg out
  2955. # [23:32] <abr> I figured I was already involved in that bug, and it would be easy to fix. :)
  2956. # [23:32] <jesup> And I checked before trying to land it, and saw you had
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  2958. # [23:32] <dholbert> abr, something like those steps should work (though it sounds like RyanVM is taking care of it for you)
  2959. # [23:32] <abr> dholbert -- Yeah, except I'd have to set the author also.
  2960. # [23:32] <RyanVM> that's pretty close to what I did
  2961. # [23:32] <dholbert> abr, oh, right
  2962. # [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3aab0275c08f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 6c40b2d396c6 (bug 836349) for a bad commit message.
  2963. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/000c0c72fa82 - Jason Smith - Bug 836349 - Crashtest for bug 836349. r=abr
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  2965. # [23:33] <RyanVM> abr: qref -u allows you to change the author
  2966. # [23:33] <dholbert> so add "-u whoever" to the qimport then, or add a "hg qref -u whoever" as a final step
  2967. # [23:33] <dholbert> yeah
  2968. # [23:33] <jesup> dholbert: with this, fix the patch before importing. Much easier
  2969. # [23:33] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
  2970. # [23:33] <jesup> but in general you're right
  2971. # [23:33] <abr> I was actually about to use qbackout, since I've figured out a workflow that should work with that. I just wanted to understand what RyanVM was looking for...
  2972. # [23:33] <RyanVM> abr: see my push :)
  2973. # [23:34] <dholbert> jesup, when I'm fixing an already-landed-patch, I prefer to qimport the existing cset and then fix it, to be sure I'm actually re-landing the same patch that I landed before [w/ updated metadata]
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  2976. # [23:34] <dholbert> jesup, to be sure that the DONTBUILD is valid
  2977. # [23:34] <abr> Yep, thanks. Did you reset the commit message, or edit it to take out the offending message?
  2978. # [23:34] <abr> (offending *character*)
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  2981. # [23:35] <jesup> Sure - I was saying "fix it before committing" ;-)
  2982. # [23:35] <dholbert> RyanVM, sneaky, you put DONTBUILD on the second line :)
  2983. # [23:35] <dholbert> jesup, ah, yes :)
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  2986. # [23:36] <RyanVM> dholbert: if I'm going to nitpick over commit messages, why clutter my own? :P
  2987. # [23:36] <cpeterson> where are the NS_VK_* keycodes defined?
  2988. # [23:36] <RyanVM> abr: I always qref -e
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  2992. # [23:37] <abr> RyanVM -- That's wha I did also, to make sure the r= was present on the log message
  2993. # [23:38] <abr> The landmine here appears to have been a Unicode BOM at the start of the file, which is hidden by (most? modern?) editors/
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  2998. # [23:39] <RyanVM> funny enough, the emacs we ship with mozillabuild showed it
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  3000. # [23:40] <Jesse_> TextWrangler considers it part of the charset metadata. you can save as "UTF-8", "UTF-8 with BOM", or using a more obscure charset.
  3001. # [23:40] <jesup> WHen I qref'd -e on the patch file, it showed me the entire hg header as the comment, not just the comment line. That's a flag to me there's a BOM marker messing it up. In this case, the BOM is ALSO in the testcase in the patch :-(
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  3014. # [23:49] <kentuckyfriedtakahe> bz: do you know anything about events (InputData.h and InputData.cpp) ?
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  3016. # [23:50] <tbsaunde> jlebar: aren't you like the only official peer for xpcom/ ? ;)
  3017. # [23:51] <jlebar> tbsaunde: I've never felt totally comfortable with that peership, since I know only a tiny fraction of the code.
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  3019. # [23:51] <tbsaunde> jlebar: fair enough, though I'd be suprised if anyone knows some of it
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