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# Session Start: Fri Apr 12 00:00:01 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
# [00:00] <gps> derf: same difference from my perspective I think
# [00:00] <derf> But they should have been using the gyp Makefile.in generator, so it's not clear why they would have needed moz.build files in the first place (the gyp generator should generate them instead, if they're really needed).
# [00:00] <jesup> derf/gps: yeah, I was being loose in my terms
# [00:00] <gps> yup. we should only have .gyp files in these directories
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# [00:01] <derf> Okay, I am just making sure someone understands what is going on.
# [00:01] <jesup> and most don't even have .gyp
# [00:01] <derf> (because I sure don't!)
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# [00:01] <mdas> sfink: local build of what?
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# [00:05] <sfink> mdas: the tree
# [00:05] <sfink> I want to run the tbpl 'Mn' test suite
# [00:05] <sfink> 'cause I busted it
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# [00:07] <@smaug> imelven: just curious, is that patch something urgent
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# [00:07] <@smaug> or is it ok to review it on Monday or so
# [00:07] <@gavin> sfink: I think she means what app. Firefox Desktop?
# [00:08] <imelven> smaug: not urgent, next week would be great
# [00:08] <imelven> smaug: thank you :)
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# [00:08] <sfink> oh. Yes, Firefox desktop
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# [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2943880a742 - Stephen Pohl - Bug 860779 - Enable two-finger horizontal swipes when swipe animations are disabled. r=smichaud
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/783f66376d65 - Martyn Haigh - Bug 793747 - Add app origin to install message. r=mfinkle
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29a5fd2889f3 - Guilherme de Araujo - Bug 851128 - Introduce custom recognition for the double-tap gesture. r=smichaud
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8165938b2dd4 - Brad Lassey - Bug 858689 - Sending an SMS fails on Android. r=mounir
# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5f5223bc71c - Gregor Wagner - Bug 859601 - mozContacts API - return undefined if the API is unsupported on the platform, not null. r=bent
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# [00:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed313842afec - Martijn Wargers - Bug 850302 - B2G mochitests time out on tests using window.open. r=jlebar
# [00:10] <MrDHat> What are the best practices to develop a plugin friendly js library? Any recommended design patterns?
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# [00:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ad8e9729731 - Wes Johnston - Bug 858111 - Remove background color from app icons on about:apps. r=mfinkle
# [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05730b9af975 - Wes Johnston - Bug 850946 - Use light theme for Sync setup on tablets. r=sriram
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# [00:17] <nrc> can anyone point me to where <input data-type="switch" checked="" type="checkbox"> is implemented in Gecko?
# [00:17] <nrc> or how, more to the point
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# [00:19] <sheppy> Any idea where I should put a bug that releng needs to look at?
# [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/881b429d35e9 - Shane Caraveo - bug 856479 remove dead code missed in addon manager work. r=markh
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# [00:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9688317ad779 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 858800: Removes premature cleanup of Plugin Hang UI's browser-side IPC. r=bsmedberg
# [00:21] <bent> BenWa, ping
# [00:21] <BenWa> bent: pong
# [00:22] <bent> BenWa, hey, so i'm trying your multithreaded profile patch
# [00:22] <bent> onb2g
# [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e329fecc259f - Brian Hackett - Bug 855088 - Watch for 'arguments' variables declared within 'with' blocks, r=luke.
# [00:22] <BenWa> bent: ok
# [00:22] <philor> sheppy: mozilla.org::release engineering, unless I'm missing part of the question
# [00:22] <sfink> sheppy: are you looking for something like "mozilla.org/Release Engineering", or "under a 1.5 pound bar of Nicaraguan dark chocolate"
# [00:22] <bent> BenWa, how does the UI display multiple threads?
# [00:22] <sheppy> sfink: that's the one
# [00:22] <bent> BenWa, is there more work that has to happen to expose them to the UI?
# [00:23] <sfink> ok, but they may go more for milk chocolate, I dunno
# [00:23] <BenWa> bent: it already works but you have to turn it on and I guess b2g wouldn't turn it on by default
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# [00:24] <BenWa> bent: look in TableTicker.h for mProfileThreads and make it || true
# [00:24] <bent> oh!
# [00:24] <bent> ok
# [00:24] <bent> BenWa, then, a related question,
# [00:24] <bent> BenWa, i have a bunch of markers
# [00:25] <philor> unless you actually meant release management rather than release engineering, which is a much tougher question
# [00:25] <bent> BenWa, so many that they are displayed on top of each other and are totally unreadable
# [00:25] <bent> BenWa, and zooming in zooms the text too
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# [00:25] <bent> BenWa, can you point me to that code so i can try to tweak it?
# [00:25] <BenWa> bent: Certainly :)
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# [00:26] <sheppy> philor: probably release management, but this will do :D
# [00:26] <BenWa> bent: https://github.com/bgirard/cleopatra/blob/master/js/histogram.js#L231
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# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d30583cd42f - Wes Johnston - Bug 850946 - Use light theme for Sync setup on tablets. r=sriram
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# [00:28] <bent> BenWa, so i should always set mProfileThreads to true?
# [00:28] <bent> in TableTicker constructor?
# [00:29] <BenWa> yes
# [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d989eab66df4 - Brian Hackett - No bug - Fix warning spam, r=shu.
# [00:30] <BenWa> bent: Also vlad has a script to merge profiles for several processes that may be useful to you. For the optimal results you may want to make sure only the thread(s) you care about get registered
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# [00:30] <bent> BenWa, merging several *processes*?
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# [00:30] <bent> you mean, so that you can see more than one in the UI at a time?
# [00:31] <bent> or somehow combining their samples?
# [00:31] <jesup> sigh. Even with 16GB and an SSD, my windows builds still take forever. 48 minutes for a debug build; a clean build on Linux is 14ish. (That's a XEON at 3.5GHz instead of 2.3 on a Lenovo W520 laptop, but both are Sandy Bridge's). And it's not just CPU speed; for long stretches it's sitting there spinning only one core and nothing interesting showing in the mach output. Even if the CPU...
# [00:31] <jesup> ...speed is linear to clock rate (I doubt it is), that would imply a ~21 minute time, and this takes twice that plus
# [00:31] <BenWa> bent: Yes, it dumps the profile for each b2g process and puts them in the same file
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# [00:31] <bent> BenWa, so that you see several timelines?
# [00:31] <bent> or just one?
# [00:31] <BenWa> several timelines
# [00:31] <bent> vlad, ping!
# [00:31] <bent> that sounds useful
# [00:31] <bent> thanks
# [00:31] <BenWa> I'm still working on the code to sync up the timelines it's going to be a lot of work however
# [00:32] <bent> oh, they're not syncd
# [00:32] <BenWa> not yet sadly
# [00:32] <BenWa> I'll add a feature to get the time of a sample so you'll be able to soon compare the timeline by hand
# [00:32] <BenWa> proper syncing is a bit harder since the sampling drifts
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# [00:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c4c23b700b01 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 860745 - Check result of ScriptSource::substring. r=luke
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# [00:34] <mcsmurf> jesup: maybe see http://blog.pearce.org.nz/2013/03/reducing-windows-background-cpu-load.html for tips how to build faster
# [00:35] <mcsmurf> but not sure how fast a Win build can actually get
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# [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebcfc07b6315 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 860860 - followup: fix json.dump call and be more explicit about object ordering; r=gps
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# [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a6fc3b5f42 - Wes Johnston - Bug 809558 - Turn on audiochannels for Android AudioTrack. r=kinetic
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# [00:43] <reuben> RyanVM|Dinner: it seems the backout also needed a clobber??! https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21700658&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error0
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# [00:44] <sfink> mdas: any hints? I tried running it, but even though it's in the tree it looks for things like 'moznetwork' that is not in the tree. I'm trying to run it on a desktop Firefox build.
# [00:44] <bent> BenWa, how does zooming work?
# [00:45] <bent> BenWa, it just zooms the whole canvas maybe?
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# [00:45] <BenWa> bent: it recomputes a new timeline when you zoom in
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# [00:45] <mdas> sfink: sorry, I missed your ping
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# [00:46] <bent> BenWa, so i guess i don't understand why the text gets stretched when you zoom in
# [00:46] <mdas> sfink: All you need to do to build locally is add ENABLE_MARIONETTE=1 to your mozconfig
# [00:46] <BenWa> bent: The canvas is scaled basedq
# [00:46] <philor> RyanVM|Dinner: did you push something, and forget to clobber?
# [00:46] <mdas> I don't know anything about this moznetwork stuff though
# [00:46] <BenWa> on the number of elements in the timeline
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# [00:46] <BenWa> So that's not ideal for drawing text
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# [00:46] <bent> oh
# [00:46] <bent> ctx.setTransform(this._widthMultiplier, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0);
# [00:47] <mdas> sfink: once you build with marionette, you have to enable it in your profile with 'marionette.defaultPrefs.enabled' set to True, restart the browser, and then you're good to go
# [00:47] <BenWa> yes that's it
# [00:47] <philor> can we have an hg hook that just does `touch /CLOBBER`?
# [00:47] <RyanVM|Dinner> *sigh*
# [00:47] <RyanVM|Dinner> i just clobbered inbound and retriggered the two jobs
# [00:48] <RyanVM|Dinner> just star and retrigger any others that come up
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# [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3880c0cfd288 - Jim Mathies - Bug 860683 - Switch winrt widget utils log output to ascii. r=bbondy
# [00:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17d705ba2d9b - Jim Mathies - Bug 860683 - When running tests in immersive mode, connect firefox stdout to a metrotestharness pipe to route test output to mozilla test harnesses. r=bbondy
# [00:49] <sfink> mdas: oh. My profile? It doesn't construct a dummy testing-only profile or something?
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# [00:50] <sfink> maybe I should download the failed build instead
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# [00:52] <mcsmurf> is Rafael Espíndola still working at MoCo or no longer?
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# [00:53] <mcsmurf> (Im a bit confused about the "not reading bugmail" thing)
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# [00:53] <mdas> sfink: oh, if you want to run test cases locally, the test runner will create a dummy test profile, but deletes it once its done running the tests
# [00:54] <sfink> mdas: yeah, I'm just trying to reproduce a tbpl failure locally
# [00:54] <@gavin> mcsmurf: no
# [00:54] <sfink> it sounds like I still need to rebuild
# [00:54] <mcsmurf> gavin: k
# [00:55] <mdas> sfink: yeah, Marionette has to be enabled for firefox builds. Once you build with that pref, you'll need to set up your env to run the tests
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# [00:56] <mdas> sfink: to do that, I'd recommend starting up a virtualenvironment (if you don't have virtualenv/know how to use it: "pip install virtualenv", followed by "virtualenv myEnv", ". myEnv/bin/activate"), then go into (mozilla code)/testing/marionette/client/ and run "python setup.py develop"
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# [00:57] <dholbert> mcsmurf, I suspect you're correct
# [00:57] <mdas> sfink: then cd into its marionette directory, and you can run teh tests using "python runtests.py --binary=<path to your firefox bin> --type=browser tests/unit-test.ini"
# [00:57] <sfink> ok, thanks, I'll give it a try
# [00:58] <mdas> sfink: if it asks for an address, you can pass in --address=localhost:2828
# [00:58] <dholbert> mcsmurf, based on firebot !seen plus the not reading bugmail plus the fact that his bugmail addr is "at unverified.tld"
# [00:58] <mcsmurf> not sure when he actually left
# [00:58] <mcsmurf> ah well, just something random I noticed while reading a bug
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# [01:02] <jhammel> could be a snipper too
# [01:02] <reuben> a python sniper?!? quick, hi-
# [01:02] <jhammel> no, a snipper! like a snipping turtle
# [01:02] <gps> import multiprocessing; multiprocessing.Condition(); multiprocessing.Lock(); multiprocessing.Semaphore()
# [01:03] <gps> I'm pretty sure Lock() will fail but I'm not sure about Condition and Semaphore
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# [01:04] <jhammel> instead of semaphore, you should use metaphore; more meta
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# [01:46] <mbrubeck> Oh good, a bunch of possible Windows PGO Talos regressions from a period where Windows PGO builds were broken.
# [01:46] <spohl> is there an easy way to tell if a class is thread safe? are classes expected to implement a particular interface for example?
# [01:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/058c640a3799 - Steve Fink - Bug 789593 - Clone typed arrays by cloning their buffers and only saving construction parameters. r=jorendorff, bent
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# [02:20] <njn> BenWa: even that won't be immediate enough, I think
# [02:20] <BenWa> njn: It's called on something like every js loop edge so you're not going to miss much
# [02:20] <njn> BenWa: the Unreal demo peaks during *parsing*
# [02:20] <BenWa> ohh
# [02:20] <njn> :/
# [02:20] <BenWa> tracemalloc!
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# [02:22] <njn> BenWa: Massif does exactly this. But it has perfect insight into every malloc and mmap call.
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# [02:30] <heycam> anyone know if there are existing tests for the rendering of find-on-the-page highlights?
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# [02:53] <philor> oopsie, someone completely broke b2g reftests
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# [02:56] <gwagner> philor: where?
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# [02:56] <RyanVM> philor: I think they've been broken for awhile now
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# [02:58] <philor> gwagner / RyanVM : oh, it was just https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee5ca214e87c, nothing big ;)
# [02:58] <philor> just, you know, that total graphics rewrite
# [02:58] <RyanVM> heh
# [02:58] <gwagner> how can I see the tests?
# [02:58] <philor> &showall=1
# [02:59] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&rev=ee5ca214e87c
# [02:59] <philor> and then the downarrow to see how they were before
# [03:00] <@gavin> tn: what does bug 851641 need to be fixed? someone with windows to debug?
# [03:01] <tn> gavin, yeah. do you have someone in mind? i figured it would probably fall on me
# [03:01] <@gavin> tn: if you did it I would love you
# [03:01] <gwagner> philor: can you file please?
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# [03:03] <@gavin> tn: autocomplete code killed my father
# [03:03] <@gavin> tn: (it's blocking bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=566746#c189)
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# [03:05] <tn> gavin, oh, i didn't know it was blocking anything. thought it was just a low priority intermittent
# [03:05] <tn> gavin, good to know
# [03:05] <philor> "sure; I'm at my non-Mozilla job now, so not for a while, but the odds are at least fair that I'll remember later on," that's a good one
# [03:05] <@gavin> tn: well, this is relatively new knowledge, the bigger patch was only ready to land this morning
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# [03:34] <reuben> heh, what's up with all the unused functions in xpconnect
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# [03:36] <qDot> Huh. Neat. Some .orig files went in with the layers refactor.
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# [03:43] <mbrubeck> Great. Fixing @relativesrcdir@ in a bunch of of Makefiles turns out to break tests in a completely unrelated directory, but it depends on which tests run before them. :/ (bug 847279)
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# [03:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/caede81ef8cf - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 861021 - Mark AudioBufferSourceNode.playbackRate as not-addrefed; r=bzbarsky
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# [03:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bf9771e1a28 - Sean Stangl - Bug 860029 - Standardize Modelines in the JS Module. DONTBUILD. r=njn
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# [04:16] <Gijs> njn: ack-grep? :)
# [04:16] <njn> Gisj: I tried ack once, didn't like it, can't remember the reason why now
# [04:16] <bz> njn: port install grep? ;)
# [04:17] <bz> njn: that will get you GNU grep
# [04:17] <njn> bz: I'll try that
# [04:17] <bz> njn: and assuming you use macports...
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# [04:21] <njn> bz: do I use PR_ATOMIC_ADD(p,0) to get the value of an atomic variable? I can't see PR_ATOMIC_GET. Or can I just read it directly?
# [04:21] <bz> njn: I do not know.
# [04:21] <derf> The answer to the second question is certainly not yes on all platforms.
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# [04:23] <njn> derf: in which case the lack of _GET is surprising...
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# [04:25] <jcranmer> :-)
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# [04:28] <tbsaunde> derf: I'd be pretty suprised if a compiler we care about emits something other than a 4 byte move on {x86, x86_64, arm} and maybe toss in sparc and / ppc / mips if you care
# [04:29] <tbsaunde> derf: however I agree mov probably isn't the sumantics you want
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# [04:30] <philor> somebody paste me my tbpl link for the layers refactor landing?
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# [04:31] <bz> um
# [04:31] <mbrubeck> philor: this one? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=ee5ca214e87c
# [04:31] <bz> what's with the dromaeo regressions on Windows?
# [04:31] <mbrubeck> bz: Not just dromaeo
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# [04:31] <philor> that'll get me there, thanks
# [04:31] <mbrubeck> *everything* regressed on Windows
# [04:32] <bz> yeah
# [04:32] <bz> What gives?
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# [04:32] <bz> oh, pgo-only?
# [04:32] <mbrubeck> Ts Paint, Tp5, SVG, Kraken
# [04:33] <bz> There's really not much in the range
# [04:33] <mbrubeck> And the Ts regressions I looked at seem to be PGO-only
# [04:33] <bz> IT's got to be bug 859446
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# [04:33] <mbrubeck> maybe something broke/changed PGO?
# [04:33] <bz> oh, hmm
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# [04:34] <bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859446#c15
# [04:34] <bz> That's Win PGO specific!
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# [04:35] <mbrubeck> bz: I posted a brief response to tree-management but then I had to run out before filing a bug; I was just settling back in to look into it.
# [04:35] <bz> My money is totally on that change
# [04:35] <mbrubeck> Nice find there.
# [04:35] <bz> In that it already has some sort of pgo weirdness happening
# [04:35] <mbrubeck> Time to try backing that out?
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# [04:36] * bz thinks so
# [04:36] <bz> you doing it?
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# [04:38] <philor> sigh
# [04:39] <philor> I was "discovering" the b2g reftest failures around the time that the patch to fix them landed
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# [04:40] <mbrubeck> bz: oops, time to put the kid to bed; I can push a backout in about 20 minutes unless someone wants to beat me to it.
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# [04:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b98b24f28623 - Reuben Morais - Bug 856042 - Tighten up sanitization of arguments to the Contacts API. r=bz r=gwagner
# [04:43] <tbsaunde> bz: mbrubeck I got it
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# [04:46] <derf> njn: Well, I mean, at the _very_ least you don't want the compiler re-ordering operations around the mov.
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# [04:50] <jesup> red on reuben's push
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# [04:52] <reuben> ?!??! what does check-sync-dirs.py do?
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# [04:53] <reuben> jesup: are you sure that's not sstangl's NOBUILD push? I didn't even touch js/
# [04:53] <heycam> reuben, ensures that certain makefiles are the same in the root and under js/src/
# [04:53] <heycam> iirc
# [04:53] <jesup> philor: I have two small patches ready; right now I'm holding off (one is NPOTB), the other is trivial (#define for __isascii() if not defined) - should I wait?
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# [04:53] <philor> jesup: at least until the tree is open, yes
# [04:54] <heycam> s/makefiles/config files (including makefiles)/
# [04:54] <jesup> Ah, closed again. It wasn't, which was why I asked
# [04:54] <reuben> right, I'm pretty sure that was caused by sstangl's push, not mine
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# [04:56] <jesup> reuben: you're correct
# [04:56] <philor> you're hanging with a bad crowd, though, you should probably be taught a lesson
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# [04:58] <tbsaunde> jesup: backing him out?
# [04:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d92a2e39c77 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 5bf9771e1a28 (bug 860029) for bustage
# [04:59] <jesup> sure, I can do that. boat-load of files!
# [04:59] <jesup> Never mind, philor got it
# [05:00] <tbsaunde> jesup: yeah, figured he didn't have a tree yet, but I guess its later than I thought
# [05:00] <philor> it's Thursday, off at 7
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# [05:00] <jesup> And sstangl hid behind DONTBUILD, too. The nerve, thinking that changing comments couldn't break the build! ;-) We're powerful, even comments can break things!
# [05:01] <bz> ehsan: welcome to JS
# [05:01] <@ehsan> oh god
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# [05:02] <@ehsan> bz: please tell me this isn't right
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# [05:05] <bz> ehsan: See my comments in the bug
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# [05:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e83aae42ee28 - Randell Jesup - Bug 860920: remove moz.build files from deleted source directory media/webtrc/trunk/src r=gps
# [05:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e41c1fc65901 - Randell Jesup - Bug 860222: use our own isascii() for sanitizing TURN passwords r=glandium
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# [05:07] <@ehsan> bz: see mine too ;)
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# [05:08] <njn> firebot: uuid
# [05:08] <firebot> 761614bd-8a2d-46c7-8d65-15a97c0e8888 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [05:08] <bz> ehsan: The corollary is "use strict"; is your friend
# [05:08] <bz> ehsan: the only problem with it is....
# [05:08] <bz> ehsan: if you typo it, you just end up in non-strict mode and none the wiser
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# [05:08] <bz> ehsan: e.g. "use strict;"; will not put you in strict mode
# [05:08] <@ehsan> bz: well I needed this for a test
# [05:08] <bz> ehsan: nor will "use strict;"
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# [05:09] <njn> firebot: uuid
# [05:09] <firebot> faf707f6-3063-4b5e-bc93-bc5e692bdb46 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [05:09] <@ehsan> bz: and you're going to make sure I have not misspelled it in a minute when you review the patch ;)
# [05:09] <bz> ehsan: lol
# [05:09] <@ehsan> bz: not even the latter?
# [05:09] * @ehsan shivers more
# [05:09] <bz> ehsan: It has to be "use strict" as the first statement
# [05:09] <bz> ehsan: Not having a semicolon after it might still work
# [05:10] <njn> ehsan: don't let that concern you; "use strict" is awesome
# [05:10] <bz> yeah
# [05:10] <bz> "use strict"
# [05:10] <bz> var gain = AudioContext().createGain().gain;
# [05:10] <bz> alert(gain.defaultValue);
# [05:10] <bz> alert(gain.defaultValue=0.5);
# [05:10] <bz> That throws
# [05:10] <bz> ASI for the lets-call-it-a-win
# [05:10] * @ehsan grins
# [05:11] <@ehsan> bz: please pay attention to the commit message of the patch I'm about to throw at you ;) :(
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# [05:12] <bz> ehsan: Oh? Trying to hack my brain via commit messages? ;)
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# [05:12] <@ehsan> bz: no, you'll see...
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# [05:13] <@ehsan> bz: https://bug859595.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=736636
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# [05:15] <bz> ehsan: wait
# [05:15] <bz> ehsan: is the sadness just from having to add the names? ;)
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# [05:17] <njn> ehsan: s/alternate/alternative/
# [05:17] <njn> "alternate" means "every second"
# [05:17] <njn> (perhaps clearer if written "every 2nd")
# [05:20] <jcranmer> you know what I like about working on mozilla-central during the evenings?
# [05:20] <jcranmer> less people to race against
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# [05:27] <qDot> Annnnnnnnd then it gets split into a 300k patch and a 200k patch. Gosh, thanks.
# [05:27] <jcranmer> poop, my patch queue only comes out to 463K in aggregate
# [05:28] <jcranmer> qDot: I had a 1.1MB patch floating around somewhere
# [05:28] <jcranmer> granted, that was mostly from dropping a 1.1MB file for testing purposes
# [05:28] <qDot> Yeah this is a thing that involves more android system crap than should be in this patch.
# [05:29] <mjrosenb> when I destruct a vector, all of its elements get destructed as well, right?
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# [05:36] <mjrosenb> njn: yup.
# [05:36] <mjrosenb> njn: I was going to rely on it.
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# [05:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/378a5b44cd06 - Reuben Morais - Bug 861032 - Fix -Wreinterpret-base-class warning on Codegen.py. r=bz
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# [05:48] <bz> Is MOZ_B2G_RIL the right makefile bit to check for b2g?
# [05:48] <pallav> Hi, I'm looking to get in touch with Forrest Oliphant (with the Meemoo project). Couldn't get through via email. Does anyone know how else I could get in touch with him?
# [05:48] <bz> or something else?
# [05:48] <bz> as in, if I want to disable a mochitest on b2g only
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# [05:50] <njn> bz: after running "port install grep" I now have... 2.5.1, the same version as before
# [05:51] <bz> njn: "which grep" ?
# [05:51] <njn> bz: oh, the $PATH entries are in the wrong order
# [05:51] <philor> bz: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/b2g.json
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# [05:51] <bz> philor: ah, nice
# [05:51] <bz> philor: I just add it there?
# [05:51] <njn> bz: actually, PATH is right, but something cached in my terminal is breaking it... a new terminal works, though
# [05:52] <bz> njn: do you use tcsh perhaps?
# [05:52] <njn> bz: |hash -d grep| fixed it
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# [05:52] <bz> njn: heh
# [05:52] <jdm> bz: you may want the toolkit define for gonk instead
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# [05:52] <philor> bz: far as i know, fit it in the directory layout, add a comment instead of "" if you want to avoid having someone just blindly enable it later on
# [05:52] <jdm> bz: ifeq (gonk,$(MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT))
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# [05:53] <bz> I suppose I should do a try push, eh?
# [05:53] <bz> or not worry about it? ;)
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# [05:56] <bz> better safe than angering the sheriffs
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# [06:18] <njn> bz: re Bug 860980 -- I'm considering writing a "jsperf.com considered harmful" blog post
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# [06:33] <@dolske> never read the bug or seen the site, but history indicates that's almost certainly a fine idea. :)
# [06:34] <njn> dolske: the site tagline should be "we make it even easier to write erroneous JS benchmarks!"
# [06:34] <njn> microbenchmarks FTL
# [06:35] <@dolske> benchmarks. if they're not written by a browser engineer, they're bullshit. And if they are, they're only _probably_ bullshit. ;)
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# [06:35] <njn> pretty much
# [06:36] <@roc> ehsan: "the saddest thing you've ever had to do in Gecko"?
# [06:36] <@roc> you have led a charmed life
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# [06:38] <njn> roc: "maintain editor" is surely worse
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# [06:43] <@dolske> so, Gijs and I were pondering if there might be some hacky way to get DOM Inspector working with videocontrols, so that we could fiddle with things (eg, porting the XUL stuff to HTML)
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# [06:43] <@dolske> bz suggested something along the lines of http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2295818 -- replacing the native-anonymous <videocontrols> with an XBL binding.
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# [06:44] <@dolske> that pastebin "works" -- the binding's attached and code is running -- but the actual video control elements are not visible on the page. Nor is a <label> stuffed into there.
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# [06:45] <@dolske> roc: any idea what might not be working? or is that just a batshit crazy idea which isn't going to work?
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# [06:45] <@dolske> (and by "hacky" I mean "local builds only, and just for a developer poking at this stuff" -- we'd never ship this)
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# [06:49] <@roc> you still need an anonymous element there
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# [06:50] <@roc> why not just change <videocontrols> to be an HTML element and continuing binding XBL to it, but use HTML in the XBL instead?
# [06:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/114cd1c255f6 - Reuben Morais - Bug 860918 - Disable the mozContact constructor if the dom.mozContacts.enabled is not set. r=gwagner
# [06:50] <@roc> and returning false from IsLeaf is definitely a bad idea
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# [06:52] <@roc> dolske: make sense?
# [06:53] <@dolske> roc: hmm, not following. We want to inspect the existing videocontrols.xml binding, as well as potential changes to it. (hacking live with DOMi is helpful in such cases)
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# [06:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d56c6bca1e56 - Chris Pearce - Bug 846992 - Don't assume last video frames in media's timestamp covers all of audio overhang. r=kinetik
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# [06:53] <@roc> oh I see what you're saying
# [06:54] <@roc> can't we extend DOMI to view native anonymous content?
# [06:54] <@roc> did you discuss that with bz?
# [06:55] <@dolske> his suggestion was something like the pastebin, and that extending nsIDeepTreeWalker would be Hard.
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# [06:55] <@dolske> lemme pastebin the chat...
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# [06:57] <@dolske> roc: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2297568
# [06:59] <@roc> all he said was "That's pretty nontrivial"
# [06:59] <@roc> but he also said "you could certainly special-case the video case"
# [06:59] <@dolske> ah, hmm. i guess in the general case, but make it work with delicious hacks just for <video>?
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# [07:00] <@dolske> something like letting the treewalker see mVideoControls and walk into that?
# [07:00] <@roc> I don't think it's even that hard
# [07:00] <njn> why do we have some .orig files in gfx/layers/d3d10/ ?
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# [07:02] <@dolske> mmm. let me give this a shot, then.
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# [07:05] <nrc> njn: mistake, we know about it and will get rid, just had too many critical bugs to fix first
# [07:05] <WeirdAl> I must be picking either the wrong reviewers or the wrong bugs :)
# [07:05] <@roc> I'm trying figure out why it doesn't *already* show native anonymous content
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# [07:05] <njn> nrc: do it right now, "no bug, r=njn" :)
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# [07:06] <@roc> dolske: so in layout/inspector/public/inDeepTreeWalker.cpp
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# [07:06] <nrc> njn: I'll probably get on it tonight, :-) meeting at the mo
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# [07:06] <@roc> dolske: in inDeepWalker::PushNode
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# [07:07] <@roc> instead of calling GetChildNodes, I think you can call GetChildren (after QIing to nsIContent)
# [07:07] <@roc> looks like that will pick up native anonymous content
# [07:07] <@dolske> ooh!
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# [07:08] <@roc> in fact I think all the logic under the outermost "if (!kids)" can be replaced by just a call to GetChildren
# [07:08] <@roc> which picks up everything
# [07:08] <@roc> XBL, native anonymous, and as a bonus, CSS generated content
# [07:09] <@roc> DOMI probably needs some help to make sense of what hit it :-)
# [07:09] <WeirdAl> ?
# [07:09] <WeirdAl> bustage in the inspector?
# [07:09] <@dolske> oh, nice. a couple of us were just talking about the difficulty of seeing generated content in DOMi.
# [07:09] <@roc> you'd want to distinguish visually between regular children, XBL children, native anonymous, and CSS generated content
# [07:10] <WeirdAl> hehe, especially when native anon content has XBL anon content...
# [07:10] <WeirdAl> <video/>
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# [07:11] <bz> hmm
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# [07:11] <bz> didn't realize we had a thing that knows about the native anon kids!
# [07:11] <bz> I guess it got added for a11y?
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# [07:13] <@roc> bz: I guess yeah
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# [07:13] <Unfocused> hm, could we teach devtools to know about all that to?
# [07:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4eeaa421a08d - Nicholas Cameron - No bug. Remove .orig files, r=njn, DONTBUILD
# [07:14] <njn> nrc: my first gfx review; I'm so proud
# [07:14] <@roc> bz, dolske: FragmentOrElement::GetChildren does actually have a problem in it
# [07:14] <@roc> which is that it only looks for children of a primary frame
# [07:14] <Unfocused> (no idea what devtools currently uses, i'm getting basic DOM APIs, since it doesn't even know about XBL currently)
# [07:14] * @roc thinks about whether this is actually a problem
# [07:14] <njn> nrc: BTW, I found this by doing "find . -name '*.orig' | xargs rm"
# [07:14] <nrc> njn: careful, you'll end up responsible for the d3d backend this way
# [07:15] <njn> nrc: lol
# [07:15] <njn> nrc: I tried downloading MSVC 2010 the other day and couldn't even get that to work
# [07:15] <@roc> bz, dolske: well it's not a problem for video, since a video element would always have an nsVideoFrame as its primary, but it would be a problem if say you wanted to see the CSS generated content of a scrollable block
# [07:16] <nrc> njn I just installed 2012, it was so ugly I couldn't bring myself to use it. And I _like_ vs
# [07:16] <njn> nrc: I don't want the dev environment, just the compiler
# [07:16] <@roc> nrc: come on, ALL CAPS is the way of the future
# [07:16] <njn> roc: greyscale, too
# [07:16] <njn> just look at gmail
# [07:17] <bz> all caps?
# [07:17] * bz is missing the joke, somehow. ;)
# [07:17] <nrc> yeah, it's not bad enough when your compiler shouts at you when something is broken, but that the IDE has to do it all the time
# [07:17] <@roc> in VS2012 menu titles in the menubar are in all caps
# [07:17] <bz> I see....
# [07:17] <@roc> it is as dumb as it sounds
# [07:17] <bz> They could be Comic Sans
# [07:17] <@roc> don't give them idea
# [07:18] <@roc> for the full effect they really should be monospace Courier
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# [07:35] <@dolske> roc: hmm, like so? compiles, but domi isn't seeing into <video>. http://cl.ly/image/07191K1w3n0x
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# [07:36] <@roc> I gotta go, but file a bug and attach your attempted patch
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# [07:37] <njn> who knows about the JS operation callback thingy
# [07:37] <njn> ?
# [07:37] <WeirdAl> taras: ping
# [07:37] <bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=70fe4eccc8b8&showall=1
# [07:37] <bz> Why's that not showing my builds?
# [07:37] <bz> njn: I do a little bit....
# [07:38] <njn> bz: when exactly does it run?
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# [07:39] <njn> bz: lots of places, by the looks of it
# [07:42] <bz> njn: yeah
# [07:42] <bz> njn: basically there are two parts to it
# [07:42] <bz> njn: there's a background thread that every so often pokes the boolean
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# [07:43] <bz> njn: and all sorts of places that check whether the boolean got poked
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# [07:43] <bz> njn: pretty much anything that can end up running for a while is supposed to check the boolean
# [07:43] <njn> bz: is the background thread the WatchDog thread in xpconnect?
# [07:43] <bz> njn: in browser, yes
# [07:43] <bz> njn: shell has a different background thread, obviously.
# [07:44] <njn> bz: ok, that's promising
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# [07:44] <njn> bz: in bug 842800 I'm trying to measure peak memory usage
# [07:44] <njn> bz: I'm having trouble with actually doing the measurements exactly when I want them
# [07:45] <njn> bz: my current best code doesn't do it until control returns to the main event loop
# [07:45] <njn> bz: by which time the peak can be well gone, if it's in JS
# [07:45] <njn> bz: I'll try this, see if it does better
# [07:46] <bz> njn: ok
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# [07:47] <bz> njn: so what will end up happening
# [07:47] <njn> bz: though it looks like we're already using it in nsJSEnvironment.cpp
# [07:47] <bz> njn: Is that http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp#692 will be called
# [07:47] <bz> njn: right
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# [07:47] <bz> njn: and you can add your stuff there as desired....
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# [07:50] <njn> bz: so when I want a measurement to happen, I'll set a flag X somewhere, call JS_TriggerOperationCallback(), and then in DOMOperationCallback() I'll check for that flag, and if it's set, do the measurement
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# [07:50] <bz> njn: that should work, yes.
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# [08:00] <dougt> bz: ping?
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# [08:01] <dougt> or njn?
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# [08:01] <njn> dougt: pong
# [08:01] <dougt> hey njn.
# [08:01] <njn> hullo
# [08:01] <dougt> at ff shutdown, do we continue to run gc/cc?
# [08:01] <nrc> when specifying TEST_PATH for mochitests, where in the file system should the path start?
# [08:01] <dougt> or do we only do that in debug builds?
# [08:02] <njn> dougt: I don't know, sorry
# [08:02] <tbsaunde> nrc: topsrcdir
# [08:02] <dougt> njn: okay. ;)
# [08:02] <nrc> tbsaunde: thanks!
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# [08:03] <dougt> njn: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818739
# [08:03] <dougt> found it!
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# [08:22] <tbsaunde> m-c is gecko 23 right?
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# [08:46] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [08:49] <nigelb> Good Morning Ms2ger
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# [08:54] <glob> it can't be bonjour-o'clock already?!?
# [08:54] <glob> *sigh* what happened to the day?
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# [08:55] <nrc> Which chrome element is |FindToolbar| ?
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# [08:58] <nigelb> glob: friday happened :D
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# [08:58] <glob> nigelb, stupid friday.
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# [08:59] <JonathanS> glob, Gotta get down on Friday. /s
# [08:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/226521477f7d - Vicamo Yang - Bug 854790 4-1/4: refactor test_filter_mixed.js so that we have multiple messages in one thread. r=gene
# [09:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f81432f8494f - Vicamo Yang - Bug 854790 3/4: RIL. r=gene
# [09:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15acf0c7597c - Vicamo Yang - Bug 854790 1/4: Support filtering mobile messages with thread id. Interface changes. sr=mounir
# [09:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5bc732a49eae - Vicamo Yang - Bug 854790 4-2/4: test cases for filtering messages by threadId. r=gene
# [09:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9413f23d5cd5 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 854790 2/4: DOM. r=mounir
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# [09:05] <mjrosenb> does this work for anyone? http://labs.echonest.com/Uploader/index.html?trid=TRJOXMC1345D97E4BC
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# [09:05] <mjrosenb> I'm getting "Sorry, this app needs advanced web audio. Your browser doesn't support it. Try the latest version of Chrome or Safari" with a nightly from earlier in the week.
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# [09:07] <nigelb> glob, JonathanS - http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m61c7f3zmc1rniizso1_500.gif
# [09:07] <JonathanS> nigelb, Dark Knight Friday editions?
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# [09:09] <nigelb> JonathanS: Yep
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# [09:10] <JonathanS> nigelb, i found one for a pug https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6586038272/hE3DE1D28/
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# [09:29] <KWierso|Home> mjrosenb: they explicitly test for "window.webkitAudioContest"
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# [09:31] <KWierso|Home> mjrosenb: it appears we have an unprefixed "window.AudioContext" in nightly/aurora
# [09:31] <KWierso|Home> yay, feature detection!
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# [09:37] <mjrosenb> :(
# [09:38] <mjrosenb> wow,
# [09:38] <mjrosenb> totally did not just listen to seven nation army for 15 minutes.
# [09:38] <KWierso|Home> mjrosenb: it also appears that we don't support an alternate, older name for context.createGain()
# [09:38] <KWierso|Home> page tries to do context.createGainNode(), which appears not to be a function in Nightly
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# [09:39] <heycam> KWierso|Home, I think that's what ehsan was talking about just before… https://bug859595.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=736636
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# [09:40] <KWierso|Home> heycam: looks like that'd do it
# [09:40] <KWierso|Home> though it'd still fail on that echonest site because they explicitly try to use only a webkit-prefixed version of stuff
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# [09:42] <NeilAway> njn: bah, ehsan ignored your spelling correction - maybe you should have changed the bug summary ;-)
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# [09:46] <heycam> it's going to be strange when we get to 7 digit bug numbers. it won't seem right.
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# [09:47] <KWierso|Home> hopefully bug #1000000 is worthy
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# [09:47] <heycam> Bug 1000000 - Reset bug numbers back to zero on bmo.
# [09:48] <heycam> bug numbers for closed bugs can be reused
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# [09:48] <Ms2ger> Clearly we should fill in the non-existent bugs
# [09:48] <Ms2ger> Bug 1, say
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# [09:48] <heycam> oh, are there non-existent ones?
# [09:48] <heycam> wonder why that is
# [09:49] <heycam> I think I've only ever seen three digit bugs, not lower
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# [09:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c81138a2c6ad - Jonathan Kew - bug 853252 - check for changed backing scale when we receive a windowDidChangeScreen message. r=smichaud
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# [09:52] <KWierso|Home> Ms2ger: isn't bug 101 the first bug in the system? everything lower than that seems to be invalid
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# [09:53] <Ms2ger> KWierso|Home, bug 43 exists
# [09:54] <Ms2ger> And I got that number on my second try... I wish my brain remembered more useful things
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# [09:56] <heycam> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35
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# [09:56] <heycam> alias firstBug :)
# [09:56] * aja is disappointed. Bug 43 should have been an off-by-one error.
# [09:56] <heycam> bug reporter is marked "(New to Bugzilla)", heh
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# [10:22] <mjrosenb> argh.
# [10:22] <mjrosenb> I am getting pulled in by the alluer of overgeneralization
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# [10:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/214cafc09b49 - Mike Hommey - Bug 844016 - Move webapprt locale files. r=Pike
# [10:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d4badbe3db2 - Mike Hommey - Bug 802240 - Expose an API to mmap the underlying file for a library loaded by faulty.lib. r=nfroyd
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# [10:27] <gaston> gps: yes?
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# [10:29] <NeilAway> heycam: rofl @ (New to Bugzilla)
# [10:30] <glob> NeilAway, hrm
# [10:30] <glob> NeilAway, that's not good.. i recently touched that code
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# [10:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b32af5340c3 - Gina Yeh - Bug 859727 - Should set force to FORCE_NONE after Sco is disconnected, r=echou
# [10:31] <heycam> commenter might well have been new to bugzilla at the time the comment was made (and not made other comments since)
# [10:31] <glob> heycam, no, that tag always shows the current new status
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# [10:31] <glob> heycam, yeah, it's because of their comment count
# [10:31] <heycam> glob, and new status gets updated over time, even without the user doing any commenting etc.?
# [10:31] <heycam> ok
# [10:31] <reuben> gaston: don't know if you have enough scrollback, but http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2297972
# [10:32] <glob> someone will be marked as 'new' if (they don't have canconfirm) and (comment-count < 25 || account < 60 days)
# [10:32] <gaston> reuben: 403 forbidden but will backlog
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# [10:33] <reuben> gaston: uh… weird. he's asking you to run this Python snippet on a BSD: import multiprocessing; multiprocessing.Condition(); multiprocessing.Lock(); multiprocessing.Semaphore(); multiprocessing.Pipe()
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# [10:34] <gaston> gps: so multiprocessing.Pipe() works, all the other 3 barf on missing sem_open
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# [10:51] <kunal> is there any mentor here for Google summer of code 2013
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# [10:53] <kunal_> is there any mentor here for Google summer of code 2013
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# [10:55] <reuben> kunal: you'll probably be more successful during California business hours, it's 2AM here :P
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# [10:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f26cd5d8fe7f - Reuben Morais - Bug 823999 - Add logging to the Contacts code to diagnose intermittent failure.
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# [11:19] <sudheera1> hi I can't locate the code responsible for the download window where is it?
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# [11:24] <reuben> sudheera1: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/downloads/content/allDownloadsViewOverlay.xul , http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/downloads/content/allDownloadsViewOverlay.js#757 , etc
# [11:25] <reuben> if you mean the new Downloads view in the History window, of course. I think the Downloads window is gone?
# [11:26] <sudheera1> I dont know what you mean sorry
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# [11:31] <jandem> any talos experts online?
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# [11:34] <sudheera> hi I downloaded the firefox code and buid it and then ran, but it opens a new firefox with all the features that my installed firefox(that I'm using) including book marks. Is it possible to happen?
# [11:34] <sudheera1> exit
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# [11:35] <jandem> bz_sleep: ping
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# [11:36] <IRCMonkey36875> sudheera: you need to quit your currently running Firefox to run your own FF version
# [11:36] <IRCMonkey36875> but of course it will keep all your bookmarks, settings, etc.
# [11:38] <sudheera> Is there anyway to avoid that?
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# [11:39] <nthomas|away> add '-no-remote' when you launch it
# [11:39] <nthomas|away> you need to create a second profile when the profile manager comes up (use -p if it doesn't)
# [11:39] <nthomas|away> or is it -P, I forget
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# [11:41] <nrc> -P
# [11:42] <sudheera> ok thanks :)
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# [11:45] <kanru> where's the default viewport size for mobile defined?
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# [11:47] <sudheera> nthomas|away: when I ran using -no-remote it gives me nightly runnig, not firefox? I dont understand
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# [11:48] <kanru> ah, found it.. browser.viewport.desktopWidth
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# [11:51] <nrc> sudheera_: when you build FF yourself it will be branded as nightly
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# [11:52] <nrc> so it sounds like you have won :-)
# [11:53] <gaston> hmmm 21.0b1 seems to try to do more stuff wrt dbus - and is more chatty if the connection to the bus fails
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# [12:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4078fd282b4d - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 823375 - Don't build or try to link NEON libs when the target doesn't support it. r=glandium
# [12:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/006605c1ccc5 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 858655 - Add missing DebugScopes::onPopStrictEvalScope call for baseline frames. r=djvj
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# [12:10] <sudheera> nrc: but it looks different than current version of firefox. I mean the windows are different
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# [12:21] <nrc> sudheera: it uses a black background for the menu button rather than orange, there might be a few other changes, it's probably normal
# [12:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a409636a0f32 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 860704 - GC: Comment says RawT converts to RootedT r=terrence
# [12:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4eef306e0156 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 860777 - Part 1 - Root XPCWrappedJSClass.cpp r=bholley
# [12:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2344b2249db - Jon Coppeard - Bug 860311 - GC: More rooting in XPConnect r=bholley
# [12:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/954c25a05631 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 860777 - Part 2 - Root WrapperFactory.cpp r=bholley
# [12:22] <nrc> sudheera_: that was assuming you're using Windows, I think there are similar differences on other platforms
# [12:23] <nrc> (I haven't used anything but nightly for so long other than on Windows, that I forget what real Firefox looks like :-p )
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# [12:34] <RattyAway> if the crash is in Core Text which bugzilla component should I report this in? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b66ae0d4-83d5-4038-a505-a888d2130411
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# [12:36] <mcsmurf> RattyAway: first you should upgrade to a current SeaMonkey version :]
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# [12:37] <RattyAway> mcsmurf: user declines to upgrade: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860832#c3
# [12:37] <mcsmurf> well
# [12:38] <RattyAway> mcsmurf: I guess I'll close it as INCO
# [12:38] <mcsmurf> I dont think anyone wants to look at crashes of old builds
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# [12:39] <RattyAway> right closing!
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# [12:41] <mcsmurf> could have been Bug 581359
# [12:41] <mcsmurf> but that bug looks older
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# [12:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c41e47d57607 - Eric Chou - Bug 823803 - Add L2CAP/EL2CAP Socket support, r=qdot, r=gyeh
# [12:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0984b5e72dc8 - Eric Chou - Bug 823803 - Manage two server sockets (RFCOMM/EL2CAP) in BluetoothOppManager, r=mrbkap, r=gyeh
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# [12:56] <mayhemer> looks like try has some troubles?
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# [12:58] <mayhemer> this one https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=006605c1ccc5 also doesn't seem very heathy...
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# [13:05] <Ra_> Hello! I am looking for some beginner bugs.. can anybody point me to the right direction...
# [13:07] <msucan> Ra_: hello
# [13:07] <msucan> take a look at step 3 here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction
# [13:08] <msucan> also make sure you follow all of those steps
# [13:09] <Ra_> msucan I am there already! but thanks.. :)
# [13:10] <msucan> Ra_: then don't worry - all of the good-first-bugs with mentors should be easy enough to start with
# [13:10] <AryehGregor> NeilAway, thanks.
# [13:10] <msucan> if you'd like to take one and you need to ask some questions, contact the bug mentor
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# [13:11] <Ra_> ok thanks msucan i'll go through the list..
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# [13:46] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: np
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# [13:48] <glazou> sigh ; my debug build runs fine and my opt build crashes
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# [13:48] <sudheera> Hi, I'm new to firefox developing and I think fix a bug will get me familiar with the environment and I found this bug [http://miburl.com/Ow9dIv] interesting to me. what will be the first steps? should I comment there to tell that I want to fix this.?
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# [13:53] <jonco1> RyanVM: ping
# [13:54] <gcp> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=4078fd282b4d
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# [13:55] <gcp> so, it says "don't build" in the commit message.
# [13:55] <gcp> Was that...a mistake?
# [13:55] <Ms2ger> No
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# [13:55] <gcp> It's just coincidence then?
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# [13:56] <RyanVM> jonco1: pong
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# [13:57] <jonco1> RyanVM: hey, I don't know if evilpie asked already, but do you know what happening in bug 854614?
# [13:57] <jonco1> RyanVM: looks like it was backed out on inbound but then subsequently landed on central
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# [13:57] <RyanVM> jonco1: the second patch made it to m-c
# [13:57] <RyanVM> the third patch was backed out
# [13:57] <RyanVM> btw, see bug 860903
# [13:58] <RyanVM> the crash the third patch was backed out for is still happening
# [13:58] <RyanVM> with rather high frequency
# [13:58] <RyanVM> helpwanted :)
# [13:58] <gcp> Ms2ger: so it will only pick up DONTBUILD and skip "don't build"?
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# [13:58] <Ms2ger> gcp, that's what is should do, yes
# [13:59] <RyanVM> jonco: Oh, I see what you mean. That's just m-cMerge being weird
# [13:59] <RyanVM> jonco1: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ed781d87fc46
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# [13:59] <jonco1> RyanVM: ah, thank you, I was confused
# [14:00] <RyanVM> sorry about that
# [14:00] <jonco1> np
# [14:00] <RyanVM> but yeah, it's a pretty frequent crash
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# [14:11] <jonco1> RyanVM: looking, but nothing leaps out
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# [14:13] <RyanVM> jonco1: thanks :)
# [14:14] <JesperHansen> Who should I ask about preventing firefox dragging the <image> of a svg image? draggable="false" is ignored
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# [14:16] <evilpie> RyanVM: did backing out just my patch fix the problem?
# [14:17] <RyanVM> evilpie: no :(
# [14:17] <RyanVM> evilpie: see bug 860903
# [14:17] <RyanVM> still hitting it pretty frequently
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# [14:18] <evilpie> maybe you should comment on that bug than
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# [14:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0614d7cadd76 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 810091 - B2G MMS: Don't download message twice on receiving duplicated notification. r=vyang, r=gene.lian
# [14:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ee76e6261e6 - Arthur Chen - Bug 832946 - Ignore numbers start with '#' or '*' and end with '#'. r=gwagner
# [14:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93f9dc06b4c5 - Frédéric Wang - Bug 825928 - Fix a compilation error with old compilers. r=bas
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# [14:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9461d02ac47d - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 860291 - Fix options check in osfile_async_worker.js. r=froydnj
# [14:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/066f653f7743 - Cykesiopka - Bug 448945 - Add additional font sizes to minimum font size list. r=jaws
# [14:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25323c442d1a - Jan de Mooij - Bug 858097 - Fix StackFrame::epilogue to check |this| is an object to avoid OOM crashes. r=jwalden
# [14:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c0d13ce4c4a - Jan de Mooij - Bug 859257 - Mark DoublePun values in ToIntWidth as volatile to work around a Clang bug. r=jwalden
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# [14:50] <jhorak> ted: hi, got a while? We've got problem with reporting crashes to crashstat in Fedora.
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# [14:55] <@ted> jhorak: hello, sure
# [14:55] <jhorak> ted: libraries checksums in reports don't match to symbols we upload, any idea what might be wrong?
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# [14:58] <@ted> is your toolchain producing build IDs in your binaries?
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# [15:01] <jhorak> ted: Hm, I'm not sure how this checksum is created.
# [15:02] <jhorak> ted: we should be doing only: make -C objdir buildsymbols
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# [15:06] <@ted> jhorak: the checksum is either pulled directly from the Build ID note, if your binutils produces one, otherwise it's a hash of the first page of the text section
# [15:07] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/src/common/linux/file_id.cc#145
# [15:07] <jhorak> ted: Ah, I see, I'll check it.
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# [15:07] <@ted> (the build id note is itself just a hash, AIUI)
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# [15:27] * AryehGregor cries at the brokenness of hg qref -i
# [15:27] <AryehGregor> Why does it have to behave so nonsensically?
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# [15:29] <padenot> -I you mean?
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# [15:30] <AryehGregor> No, -i.
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# [15:30] <padenot> I don't have -i
# [15:30] <Ms2ger> Interactive? That exists?
# [15:30] <AryehGregor> $ hg --version
# [15:30] <AryehGregor> Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.0.2)
# [15:30] <padenot> Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.5.2)
# [15:31] <padenot> I think you found your problem
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# [15:31] <Ms2ger> Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 2.5.4)
# [15:31] <padenot> we have a winner!
# [15:31] <Ms2ger> :D
# [15:31] <AryehGregor> Is it actually non-broken in more recent versions? If so, I'll try updating.
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# [15:31] <Ms2ger> It doesn't exist here
# [15:31] <padenot> what is it supposed to do?
# [15:31] <AryehGregor> Really?
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> It works like git add -i.
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> Except much worse.
# [15:32] <padenot> heh
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> As is generally the case with hg.
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> E.g., doesn't let you undo your choices.
# [15:32] <AryehGregor> Or go back at all.
# [15:32] <padenot> so, I just use the crecord extension, and it works pretty well for me
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# [15:33] <Ms2ger> git add -i is terrible
# [15:33] <AryehGregor> Granted, yes.
# [15:33] <AryehGregor> But not broken like hg qref -i.
# [15:33] <AryehGregor> (at least not that I've noticed)
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# [15:33] <gaston> do we have time-based graphs of tree closures over a long period of time ? those days it seems to me that inbound is closed most ofthe time..
# [15:35] <Ms2ger> I bet https://treestatus.mozilla.org/help allows you to get that data
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# [15:37] <gaston> hmm logs in json... too bad i dont havethe skills and time to feed that to graphite
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# [15:39] <RyanVM> gaston: it's open
# [15:39] <RyanVM> push while you can :P
# [15:39] <RyanVM> gaston: the morning closures are usually due capacity issues
# [15:39] <RyanVM> afternoon is usually busted
# [15:39] <RyanVM> bustage*
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# [15:41] <DevHC> any noted cases of build failures about "unresolved symbol 'PrepareAndDispatch'"?
# [15:41] <DevHC> (when building with a very recent version of Clang, particularly on FreeBSD)
# [15:41] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, nah, morning is open, afternoon is capacity, night is bustage :)
# [15:41] <RyanVM> heh, depending on timezone :P
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# [15:42] <Ms2ger> Living in the old world has its benefits :)
# [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1165f67ccfb5 - Paul Adenot - Bug 853551 - Implement the doppler part of AudioPannerNode. r=ehsan
# [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76166b14908a - Paul Adenot - Bug 859805 - Make libcubeb work on Android 2.3. r=kinetik
# [15:43] <Ms2ger> Besides general civilization
# [15:44] <AryehGregor> *((nsISupports**)d) = atom;
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# [15:44] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [15:44] <AryehGregor> There's a nicer way to do that if atom is an nsCOMPtr, right?
# [15:44] <Ms2ger> XPConnect?
# [15:45] <AryehGregor> Yep.
# [15:45] <Ms2ger> atom.forget((nsISupports**)d)?
# [15:45] <AryehGregor> Do I need the cast?
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# [15:45] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [15:45] <Ms2ger> Maybe not
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# [15:51] <NeilAway> AryehGregor: I assume that's an addrefed atom?
# [15:51] <AryehGregor> NeilAway, yes.
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# [15:53] * AryehGregor has this patchset compiling locally now, just needs to organize all the changes into distinct patches and get review
# [15:53] <AryehGregor> The main one is: 111 files changed, 408 insertions(+), 558 deletions(-)
# [15:53] <AryehGregor> Should be pretty easy to review, though.
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# [15:54] <bz> ted: ping
# [15:54] <bz> glandium: ping
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# [15:55] <glandium> bz: pong
# [15:56] <@ted> bz: pong
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# [15:58] <glandium> akeybl: ping
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# [15:58] <bz> glandium, ted: so this dist/bin thing
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# [15:58] <bz> glandium, ted: Do we need to back it out for now?
# [15:59] <bz> glandium, ted: Or file a followup to reenable PGO, or what?
# [15:59] <@ted> that is probably the safest short-term fix
# [15:59] <@ted> since right now we're building PGO builds without PGO optimization on windows
# [15:59] <glandium> bz: i vote backout on m-c, followup on m-i
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# [15:59] <bz> ok
# [15:59] <bz> who's doing it? ;)
# [15:59] <glandium> and i'll have the followup in a few minutes
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# [16:03] <glandium> bz, ted: 861178
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# [16:08] <jandem> padenot: android x86 is red
# [16:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/524dabd865ff - Landry Breuil - Bug 853364 : Backout bug 648730 to fix SIGBUS at startup (symbols clash) on OpenBSD after bug 648407. r=glandium
# [16:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7712e67a7c1e - Mike Hommey - Backout changeset 859361dea2f0 (bug 860371) for windows PGO regressions
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# [16:08] <bz_away> glandium: thanks!
# [16:09] <glandium> ah... it's going to screw up merging isn't it?
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# [16:10] <glandium> i'll merge m-c when landing the fixup on m-i, then
# [16:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b023bbaffecf - Randell Jesup - Bug 859179: Support large strings by fragmentation r=tuexen
# [16:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd9e94fd401f - Randell Jesup - Bug 859774: change DataChannel readyState names to match spec (capitalization) r=smaug
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# [16:10] <padenot> jandem: pushing a fix, thanks for the heads up :-)
# [16:11] <jandem> padenot: yw ;)
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# [16:12] <@khuey> so talos is going nuts ...
# [16:13] <@ted> yeah, we broke win32 PGO
# [16:13] <bent> mak, ping
# [16:13] <@ted> and it takes forever to get most of those regression emails on PGO apparently
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# [16:13] <@ted> nice to know we do catch them, though
# [16:13] <mak> bent: hi
# [16:13] <RyanVM> nice to know that PGO is still doing something ;) :P
# [16:14] <@ted> yup
# [16:14] <bent> mak, howdy, with these leaks you're seeing... khuey and i saw the leaks too, but we looked through the leak logs and there were no indexeddb objects in there
# [16:14] <bent> mak, are you seeing anything different?
# [16:14] <RyanVM> glandium: want me to merge m-c over for ya?
# [16:14] <@khuey> ted: there are emails here even for mac
# [16:14] <RyanVM> padenot: how goes the fix?
# [16:14] <@ted> khuey: oh, that sucks
# [16:14] <mak> bent: I don't see a leak log, I see that cc-analyzer from the mochitest harness finds alive globawindows
# [16:15] <@ted> can't see them for the forest of windows regression mails
# [16:15] <@ted> kind of wish we had a regression tracking app
# [16:15] <mak> bent: and if I make the test wait enough for the write operation to complete, there are no leaked windows
# [16:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f41f0742351b - Paul Adenot - Bug 859805 - Fix bustage.
# [16:15] <@ted> where we could "star" each regression
# [16:15] <@ted> wonder if we can do that with datazilla
# [16:15] <padenot> RyanVM: pushed
# [16:15] <glandium> RyanVM: not yet
# [16:15] <RyanVM> ok
# [16:16] <mak> bent: just commenting out the put() operation solves th problem, thus I suppose that while the idb operation is happening (even if aborted) it keep the window alive
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# [16:16] <bent> yes, but once the abort completes it should release everything too
# [16:17] <mak> bent: yep, but the mochitest harness is unlikely to wait, it just tried to run GC (with CC) 3 times and analyzes the result, likely at that time the operation is still aborting
# [16:17] <glandium> RyanVM: actually, you can, if you reland 860371 and land 861178 over it
# [16:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d954dd75a61b - Jim Mathies - Bug 859447 - Setting popup doesn't display properly. Second landing, first had an empty patch! r=mbrubeck.
# [16:17] <mak> bent: I'm not sure what I should do, maybe just put the setTimeout workaround for now and file a follow-up to evaluate?
# [16:17] <glandium> RyanVM: (merging m-c would effectively backout 860371 from m-i, while the intent is actually to keep it there)
# [16:17] <bent> yeah, probably
# [16:17] <RyanVM> glandium, you can just land bug 861178
# [16:17] <bent> mak, or dump a cc log
# [16:17] <glandium> RyanVM: or i can merge, but i'm not very familiar with that
# [16:18] <RyanVM> hmm
# [16:18] <RyanVM> actually, yeah
# [16:18] <glandium> RyanVM: i'm afraid this is going to fuck up the merge (landing 861178)
# [16:18] <RyanVM> safer to backout and reland
# [16:18] <RyanVM> fair enough
# [16:18] <glandium> RyanVM: do you want me to merge?
# [16:18] <mak> bent: I will try, sure.
# [16:18] <@khuey> bent: mak: so did you not fix the test to wait for the cache writes to complete?
# [16:19] <mak> khuey: why should I?
# [16:19] <RyanVM> glandium: i got it
# [16:19] <bent> khuey, it's not important to wait
# [16:19] <mak> khuey: I don't care for my writes to be complete in this case
# [16:19] <bent> khuey, the snippet cache isn't critical, and he redownloads if they're not present
# [16:19] <glandium> RyanVM: thanks
# [16:19] <KaiRo> bah, isthetreegreen.com is still there but not working any more :(
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# [16:19] <bent> isthetreegreenworking.com
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# [16:21] <mak> khuey: and fixing the test seems... wrong?.... dunno but I suppose it's normal for a tab to go away while idb is writing
# [16:21] <@khuey> well sure, something is wrong here
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# [16:21] <@khuey> there should be no leak either way
# [16:22] <@ted> isthetreegreengreen
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# [16:22] <@ted> KaiRo: i bet it uses tinderbox
# [16:22] <jwir3> RyanVM: ping?
# [16:22] <Ms2ger> ted, data:,NO
# [16:22] <@ted> yup
# [16:22] <mak> khuey: I don't think it's a leak as we intend it, it's just "window lives a bit longer, until things are done"
# [16:22] <KaiRo> ted: yup, it does
# [16:22] <mak> khuey: that unfortunately confuses our cc-analyzer in mochitests
# [16:23] <KaiRo> ted: and it's "A little hack by Justin Dolske" according to the site source, so maybe we should ask him to update it? ;-)
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# [16:23] <@ted> haha
# [16:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8fc37e73844 - Mike Hommey - Bug 860371 - Remove dist/bin when starting a build. r=gps
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c690be31939 - Mike Hommey - Bug 861178 - Don't purge dist/ data during the MOZ_PROFILE_USE pass of a PGO build. r=ted
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d66ae80ddbcc - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [16:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7712e67a7c1e - Mike Hommey - Backout changeset 859361dea2f0 (bug 860371) for windows PGO regressions
# [16:25] <bent> ted, so symbolserver.py chokes on clones of other local repos...
# [16:25] <bent> ted, is that one filed?
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# [16:26] <@ted> bent: don't remember offhand, if it was it'd be in toolkit: breakpad integration
# [16:26] <bent> ok
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# [16:26] <bent> ted, specifying SRCSRV_ROOT fixes
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# [16:26] <bent> luckily!
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# [16:26] <@ted> well that's god!
# [16:26] <@ted> good also
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# [16:27] <@khuey> I should just unsubscribe from dev-tree-management
# [16:28] <catlee> or make fewer regressions!
# [16:29] <bent> i say we disable all the tests
# [16:29] <bent> it's the only way to be sure
# [16:29] <catlee> true
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# [16:31] <catlee> I suspect the latest batch is from tweaking the regression window thresholds
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# [16:31] <catlee> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858877
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# [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/505c6b2c7f66 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 860773 - speed up crash detection for b2g marionette emulator tests, r=jgriffin
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# [16:37] <glandium> RyanVM: thanks a bunch
# [16:38] <RyanVM> np
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# [16:44] <mikeratcliffe> WTH: After a system update I can't build: undefined reference to `isascii'
# [16:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/10f5180c8d25 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 860952 - Add error site information to unexpectedCallbackAndFinish callback r=jsmith
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# [16:49] <abr> mikeratcliffe: See the last few comments on Bug 786235
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# [16:50] <abr> …and resultant Bug 860222: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860222
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# [16:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1ebffdd1d65 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 810644 part 2. Eliminate the now-unused CallEventHandler. r=smaug, sr=peterv
# [16:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8488f69f8f91 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 860591. Install WebIDL quickstubs for event interfaces as needed. r=smaug
# [16:52] <abr> makeratcliffe: it looks like the fix hit m-i last night and m-c early this morning. Updating to head should fix your issue.
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# [16:52] <abr> mikeratcliffe ^^^
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# [16:52] <mikeratcliffe> abr: thx
# [16:52] <abr> np
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# [16:54] <NeilAway> note to self: back out 860371 locally to speed up build
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# [16:56] <glandium> mikeratcliffe: (re your build failure from #build, since you're not there anymore) pull m-c
# [16:56] <glandium> mikeratcliffe: err m-i
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# [16:57] <glandium> mikeratcliffe: ah no, it's on m-c as well
# [16:57] <glandium> mikeratcliffe: #860222
# [16:58] <mikeratcliffe> I am on fx-team
# [16:58] <glandium> mikeratcliffe: merge m-c
# [16:58] <glandium> or import the patch
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# [16:58] <mikeratcliffe> Ah, that makes sense
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# [16:59] <abr> Is there an easy way to map from a Build ID in a crash-stats report to an HG changeset?
# [16:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d31afd775a0 - Josh Matthews - Bug 850252 - Remove Off-Main-Thread XPCWrappedJS refcounting from nsHttpConnection. r=mcmanus
# [17:00] <Ms2ger> abr, the stack on socorro should link to a specific changeset on hg.m.o
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# [17:02] <abr> Ms2ger: Thanks! I missed the links since they're way down the page. :)
# [17:02] <Ms2ger> Np :)
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# [17:07] <catlee> hmm...I'd like a "copy link and open in new tab, but don't load content & put my cursor in the url bar" option
# [17:07] <catlee> is that doable with addonsdk?
# [17:07] <catlee> also, I need a better name
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# [17:09] <Ms2ger> ehsan, ping
# [17:09] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: hi
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# [17:09] <Ms2ger> ehsan, can you explain bug 860886?
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# [17:09] <Jesse> catlee: you could call it "edit link in new tab"
# [17:10] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: that env var did not take any effect before
# [17:10] <catlee> Jesse: yes, that's much better!
# [17:10] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: because OpenTempFile's second arg is in/out
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# [17:10] <Ms2ger> Aha
# [17:10] <@ehsan> and getter_AddRefs clobbers the nsCOMPtr
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# [17:10] <@ehsan> before passing it in to the callee
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# [17:10] <@ehsan> the rest is left as an exercise for Ms2ger to figure out ;)
# [17:11] <glandium> Ms2ger: do you read all changeset diffs?
# [17:11] <Ms2ger> glandium, yes
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# [17:11] <glandium> Ms2ger: you have too much free time
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# [17:12] <Ms2ger> ehsan, how do you suggest it's dealt with in bug 859817?
# [17:12] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: hmm, how is that code relevant to that bug?
# [17:13] <@ehsan> I switched away from using smart ptrs
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> Right
# [17:13] <Ms2ger> So the return turns a raw pointer into an already_AddRefed
# [17:13] <@ehsan> the return?
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# [17:14] <Ms2ger> AFAICT, I'm not drunk, so the "return logFile;" should actually be in the patch :)
# [17:15] <@ehsan> oh I see
# [17:15] <@ehsan> hrm
# [17:15] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: can't we just explicitly create an already_AddRefed out of it?
# [17:15] <Ms2ger> Sure
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# [17:15] <@ehsan> oh heh
# [17:15] <Ms2ger> Apart from the fact that that's ugly :)
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# [17:15] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: you asked my review on bug 859817
# [17:16] <@ehsan> so I can just dictate whatever I want here ;)
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> I did just now :)
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# [17:16] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: explicit conversions are beautiful
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> ehsan, but that's not the main patch ;)
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# [17:16] <@ehsan> implicit conversions are ugly
# [17:16] <@ehsan> since therein lie many bugs
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> No kidding
# [17:16] <@bsmedberg> is canvas .drawWindow really chrome-only?
# [17:16] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, yes, of course
# [17:16] * @bsmedberg is getting confusing answers from the internet
# [17:17] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: it is
# [17:17] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, I don't want you to draw an iframe with my bank account open to canvas?
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# [17:17] <@bsmedberg> I was hoping that we would be able to notice whether there was any cross-origin content and allow it for same-origin-only
# [17:17] <@bsmedberg> I wanted to make images out of my graphs
# [17:17] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: or, draw a window from your own origin which includes a picture of Ms2ger's checks as a background image?
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# [17:18] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: making sure we don't draw cross origin stuff is hard I believe
# [17:18] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I guess so
# [17:18] * @bsmedberg looks for an extension, then
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# [17:19] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: if you're looking for a non-programatic way, look into the canvas' context menu!
# [17:19] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, how do you create your graphs?
# [17:19] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: using flot
# [17:19] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: a chart is actually two canvases with HTML elements in between for the labels
# [17:19] <@ted> ehsan: i thought we had a taint bit in canvas to support that
# [17:19] <@bsmedberg> so taking a screenshot of just one isn't useful
# [17:19] <@ted> so that if you drew DOM content into it you couldn't get it out
# [17:19] <@bsmedberg> ted: that's for images
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# [17:20] <@ted> bsmedberg: ah
# [17:20] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: oh, that's a shame
# [17:20] <@ted> seems like that'd be extensible
# [17:20] <@ted> but there are probably other reasons to not allow DOM content being drawn, roc's a smart guy
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# [17:21] <@ehsan> ted: well, how about a video element which is showing a picture of you coming from your webcam?
# [17:21] <@ehsan> thanks, webrtc!
# [17:21] <@ted> heh :)
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# [17:40] <glandium> http://starlogs.net/#mozilla/mozilla-central
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# [17:42] <jdm> someone at mozilla has the email dminor@mozilla.com
# [17:42] <jdm> that makes me smile
# [17:42] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [17:42] <Ms2ger> It's dminor
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# [17:42] <Ms2ger> Blame his parents
# [17:43] <jdm> I hope his middle name is either flat or sharp
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# [17:43] <NeilAway> jdm++
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# [17:49] <RyanVM> jwir3: (very belated) pong
# [17:49] <jwir3> RyanVM: Hey. So, I just received an automated 'talos regression' email that suggests that a followup patch that I posted to bug 520992 is suspected in causing the perf regression. This is not likely, though, since it's just a restructuring of logic to make the code clearer (i.e. no change to the behavior of the code). How do I go about notifying the appropriate individuals about this? Should I comment in the bug?
# [17:50] <jwir3> RyanVM: bajaj said to speak with you
# [17:50] <Ms2ger> People read those mails?
# [17:50] <RyanVM> jwir3: I would think you'd want to comment in the dev.tree-management thread
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# [17:50] <jwir3> RyanVM: ok
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# [17:56] <jesup> ehsan: but you can only use that picture to steal ms2ger's bank account if someone puts a mirror in front of it. "Now please hold up a mirror..." And the user has to approve using the camera...
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# [17:56] <Ms2ger> jesup, well, my bank account isn't worth much...
# [17:56] * jesup doubts glasses are reflective enough
# [17:56] * bz tries to makes sense of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861217
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> jesup, but I know a certain someone in SF who'd be interested in a picture of me :
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> )
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# [18:01] <capella> bugs for code that works? :)
# [18:01] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, he's near an office?
# [18:01] * Ms2ger just assumes he's out traveling somewhere
# [18:02] <RyanVM> dunno
# [18:02] <RyanVM> I need an owner for bug 860903, that's for sure
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# [18:03] <RyanVM> bz: should I be worried that this hit on the push after yours? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21737585&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [18:04] <bz> ryanvm: looking
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# [18:04] <bz> RyanVM: yes
# [18:04] <RyanVM> bz :)
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# [18:04] <bz> RyanVM: let me see what the hell is going on!
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# [18:05] <jesup> gps: ping
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# [18:06] <bz> hrm
# [18:06] <bz> passes for me locally...
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# [18:09] <bz> RyanVM: so there's been only one completed bc run so far, right?
# [18:09] <RyanVM> yes
# [18:10] * bz was pretty sure he ran this on try, but maybe I failed to....
# [18:10] <RyanVM> bz: there we go
# [18:10] <RyanVM> now it's blowing up nicely :)
# [18:10] <bz> ok
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# [18:11] <bz> RyanVM: sorry. :(
# [18:11] <RyanVM> it's cool
# [18:11] <bz> RyanVM: will make sure it's fixed or backed out in the next 10 mins
# [18:11] <RyanVM> inbound's averaging ~30% these days
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# [18:12] <jesup> !seen gps
# [18:12] <firebot> gps was last seen 14 hours, 21 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying 'please let us know how often you abuse that so we know whether to prioritize a proper fix' in #build.
# [18:12] <froydnj> RyanVM: 30% uptime? :(
# [18:13] <RyanVM> down
# [18:13] <bz> aaand that test passes for me. :(
# [18:13] <RyanVM> m-oth is orange too, bz
# [18:13] <froydnj> sure feels like up sometimes
# [18:13] <RyanVM> and JP it appears
# [18:13] <bz> yeah
# [18:13] <bz> Trying the moth now
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# [18:14] <bz> I get the moth crash
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# [18:18] <Jesse> oh, you answered earlier. 30% of the time closed.
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# [18:29] <luke-away> who do i ask about getting a bugzilla account the confirm-bugs right?
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# [18:32] <jdm> luke: me
# [18:32] <jdm> or khuey
# [18:32] <jdm> or gerv
# [18:32] <jdm> or gavin
# [18:32] <gcp> did we just remove the bookmark star from the UI?
# [18:32] <jdm> or probably lhenry
# [18:32] <jdm> er, lizzard
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# [18:32] <lizzard> hello!
# [18:33] <luke> jdm, lizzard: hi, great! i'd like to recommend the editbugs privilege for dtc-moz@scieneer.com
# [18:33] <jdm> I always imagine people on IRC like gophers
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# [18:33] <jdm> popping up suddenly into daylight when their names are mentioned
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# [18:33] <lizzard> jdm: i do feel gophery, yes
# [18:33] <lizzard> luke: ok, no problem
# [18:33] * Ms2ger cackles
# [18:34] <luke> lizzard: great, thanks!
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# [18:35] <Jesse> gcp: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748894 ?
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# [18:35] <gcp> Jesse: that didn't land yet
# [18:35] <lizzard> luke: done
# [18:35] <gcp> Dunno why it disappeared, it's back now.
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# [18:36] <luke> lizzard: thanks!
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> What will you sacrifice to the mighty bugmaster?
# [18:36] <JosiahOne|Lunch> gcp: Ah, come on. You got me all excited about nothing...
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# [18:37] <lizzard> Ms2ger: silly animated gifs are always good.
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# [18:38] <RyanVM> bz: how goes things?
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# [18:38] <RyanVM> bz: trying to one-up dzbarsky's push from yesterday? :P
# [18:38] <bz> RyanVM: I know why it's broken
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# [18:39] <Ms2ger> ... but I ain't gonna fix it
# [18:39] <jesup> Did something in the build system start removing the 'bin' directory on non-clobber builds? objdir/dist was still there, but 'bin' was empty and had been replaced with a new bin (cd ..; cd bin; and everything is there....) Odd
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> jesup, yes
# [18:40] <jesup> you've gotta be kidding me. I hope
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> jesup, no
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> jesup, funnily enough, that's broken PGO builds
# [18:40] <jesup> So I can't leave a shell in bin where I hit up-arrow and return?
# [18:41] <jhammel> jesup: i prefer my `cd $PWD` trick
# [18:41] <gcp> cd `pwd` yes
# [18:41] <jhammel> either/or
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# [18:41] <jesup> or leave gdb running and say "file firefox"
# [18:41] <gcp> same idea
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# [18:41] <jesup> (which is now really blown out of the water)
# [18:41] <jesup> OFMG. Why?
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# [18:42] <Ms2ger> Because our build system sucks
# [18:42] <Ms2ger> And requires either that or more clobbers
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# [18:42] <jesup> and it will blow away jprof results which default to the directory you're running in (though no one cares but dbaron and I)
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# [18:42] <@khuey> everytime the build system autoclobbers I kill a kitten
# [18:43] <Ms2ger> Ehehehe, nobody ever puts something useful in their objdir
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# [18:43] <jesup> Well, less clobbers.... that's good. But was this causing a huge problem before? Did something new start depending on bin?
# [18:44] <bz> RyanVM: working on fix
# [18:44] <RyanVM> ok
# [18:44] <jesup> Can't we just blow away whatever causes the problems instead of the entire dir? Sigh....
# [18:44] <Ms2ger> jesup, bug 860371 for the backstory, fwiw
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# [18:48] <bz> RyanVM: backing out
# [18:48] <RyanVM> ok
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# [18:49] <RyanVM> bz: on the bright side, at least you landed after the cset I intend to merge to m-c in a couple hours
# [18:49] <RyanVM> :)
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# [18:49] <RyanVM> on the down side, I'm going to be starring those 13 pushes for the next 3-4 :(
# [18:49] <bz> RyanVM: I'm sorry. :(
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# [18:50] <bz> RyanVM: heh
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# [18:50] <gps> jesup: pong
# [18:50] <RyanVM> that's actually not too bad of an idea imo
# [18:50] <bz> yeah
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# [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f956ddfa7a4 - Boris Zbarsky - Back out bug 860591 (rev 8488f69f8f91) because it causes orange, resulting in a CLOSED TREE
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# [18:50] <bz> anyway, backout pushed
# [18:51] <RyanVM> thanks
# [18:51] * bz could have _sworn_ he had run this through try
# [18:51] <bz> but clearly not. :(
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# [18:53] <jesup> gps: So, I finally after months got VS2010 working again, and found that even with an SSD and 16GB ram on a Lenovo W520 (2.3GHz i7 SandyBridge), a build still takes ~50 min. There are some confusing gaps in the mach output
# [18:53] <RyanVM> jesup: sounds about right - mine take about 35-40
# [18:53] <jesup> khuey/ted: ^ also
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# [18:54] <RyanVM> bz: can you suggest an owner for bug 860903 by chance?
# [18:54] <jesup> vs ~14 min on my 3.5Ghz Linux XEON sandybridge of similar vintage
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# [18:56] <@ted> gps: i was just thinking of timing pre-and-post moz.build builds on my linux machine
# [18:56] <jesup> 1 min gap between Generating UnionConversions.h and nsIWorkerTest.idl; 1 min gap between nsJSEventListener.cpp and worker/; the *Binding.cpp files take >5min all by themselves...; 1.5 min processing jar.nm; 3:30 processing the 5 Test*Binding.cpp files (and IIRC it was only using 1 core the entire time!)
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# [18:56] <@ted> to see if that's our smoking gun
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# [18:57] <@khuey> jesup: yeah dom/bindings/tests is kind of fucked up
# [18:57] <Ms2ger> jesup, that's the .cpp generation
# [18:57] * @khuey needs to find a better way to do that
# [18:58] <Ms2ger> jesup, I've been meaning to make that print something
# [18:58] <@khuey> dom/bindings is just a lot of code
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# [18:58] <jesup> yeah, but these don't take *anywhere* near as long on linux
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# [18:58] <jesup> I ignored the >2 min to do configure :-)
# [18:59] <@khuey> jesup: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/test/Makefile.in#17
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# [19:01] <jesup> khuey: aha. That probably accounts for 2-3 minutes right there
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# [19:01] <bz> mmm
# [19:01] <bz> so actually, I would be interested in what we can do to make compiling those files faster
# [19:01] <bz> it takes forever
# [19:01] <jesup> If that's the Test*Bindings.cpp stuff; if it's the other *Bindings.cpp stuff maybe 3-4?
# [19:01] <bz> because lots of files
# [19:02] <bz> and each one is not that fast....
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# [19:02] <bz> I guess part of it is that they include lots of stuff
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# [19:03] <jesup> Running a mach build on linux to do a comparison
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# [19:03] <bz> mozilla% wc ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/ClientRectBinding.i
# [19:03] <bz> 187397 815672 7072506 ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/ClientRectBinding.i
# [19:03] <glandium> bsmith: ping
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# [19:03] <bz> And that's a tiny binding...
# [19:03] <jesup> bz: how come they're so much faster on linux?
# [19:04] <bsmith> glandium: pong
# [19:04] <glandium> bz: forward declarations instead of includes, maybe?
# [19:04] <bz> jesup: faster to generate or faster to compile?
# [19:04] <jesup> Not that making them smaller or merging them woudln't help both
# [19:04] <bz> glandium: we try to do that...
# [19:04] <glandium> bsmith: are you done with fig and gum?
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# [19:04] <jesup> either
# [19:04] <bsmith> glandium: yes, go ahead and take them
# [19:04] <glandium> bsmith: thanks
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# [19:05] <@khuey> jesup: yep
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# [19:06] <seth> ah man. i really thought at 10 am i'd be getting in ahead of the bustage train =(
# [19:06] <@khuey> 10 am CEST maybe
# [19:06] <Ms2ger> seth, move to Europe :)
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# [19:06] <@khuey> jinx
# [19:06] <jesup> seth: Europe and east coast get up earlier
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# [19:07] <seth> worldwide project = bustage 24 hours a day i guess
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# [19:07] <Ms2ger> seth, nah, the Europeans don't break much ;)
# [19:07] <seth> Ms2ger: =)
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# [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1625ba632d1b - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 860104 - Temporarily disable test due to frequent orange, a=test-only on a CLOSED TREE
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# [19:09] <gcp> if only we had something you could try patches on...
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# [19:09] <seth> is there some mailing list that will email you when the tree is open?
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# [19:09] <seth> it shouldn't be a very high-traffic list <ba-dum-tsh!>
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# [19:11] <gcp> acutally, just land on m-c
# [19:11] <Ms2ger> gavin, ping
# [19:11] <gcp> you have to watch the tree, and don't set it on fire, but if you try-ed your patches that's a non-issue
# [19:12] <mccr8> in theory...
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# [19:12] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, :)
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# [19:12] <RyanVM> let's just say that I understand the motivation for doing so, but I'm still not a fan of said approach :)
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# [19:13] <gcp> If you're going to throw junk on there because you don't want to wait for m-i, of course.
# [19:13] <RyanVM> btw, I'm waiting to star inbound until closer to re-opening
# [19:13] <RyanVM> I want to get a final body count before doing so :D
# [19:13] <gcp> But for a patch that had a full try run?
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# [19:13] <gcp> And when you can stick around? (That's really the reason I'd use m-i in the first place)
# [19:13] <Ms2ger> gcp, and suddenly, a wild CLOBBER-NEEDED appears
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# [19:14] <gcp> Ms2ger: awww
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# [19:14] <RyanVM> yeah...
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# [19:14] <jesup> seth: there's an extension that puts traffic lights for tree status on your modeline
# [19:14] <RyanVM> or, "pushed with nits addressed"
# [19:14] <jesup> abr wrote it (Adam Roach)
# [19:15] <gcp> emacs?
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# [19:15] <seth> jesup: wow, nifty! /me googles
# [19:15] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, that's fine... If you do a try push *after* doing that ;)
# [19:15] <jesup> abr: ^
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# [19:15] <qDot> seth: Lemme know when you find it.
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# [19:16] <seth> i didn't find it immediately, i'm afraid
# [19:16] <seth> and immediately was the amount of time i was willing to devote
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# [19:16] <seth> but if you uncover it let me know
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# [19:18] <jesup> seth: TreeStat
# [19:18] <seth> jesup: nice
# [19:18] <qDot> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/treestat/
# [19:18] <qDot> Ah hah.
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# [19:19] <qDot> That's not emacs. :c
# [19:19] <seth> nor vim =(
# [19:19] <seth> but still useful, i think
# [19:19] <seth> i do typically have firefox open after all =)
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# [19:20] <jesup> qDot: but if it's done in an extension, you can just rewrite it in eLisp ;-)
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# [19:21] <jesup> he's thinking of porting it to a Thunderbird extension as well
# [19:21] <seth> sigh. apparently not compatible with vimperator
# [19:21] <Ms2ger> How about an Opera widget?
# [19:21] <seth> nothing appears
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# [19:21] <jesup> gps: so, windows: ~1 min gap right before workers/; on linux, hard to measure but maybe 2 seconds
# [19:21] <bz> vimperator is scary
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# [19:22] <seth> bz: honestly i wish it wasn't so invasive. i just want to use the vim keys to scroll around!
# [19:23] <jesup> gps: odd...... ./mach build on linux is MUCH slower than make -f client.mk for me
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# [19:24] <Ms2ger> jesup, at least it doesn't rickroll you
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# [19:25] <cpeterson> seth: maybe you should write an addon that just adds jhkl scrolling. That's all I would want from vimperator..
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# [19:26] <seth> cpeterson: pretty much. gg and G are useful too, and i like the vim search bindings, but yeah that's about it
# [19:26] <cpeterson> (feature creep)
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# [19:26] <jesup> that said, the *Bindings.cpp files are 3:30 to build, 5 min on windows (not that huge a diff). But the 5 Test*Bindings.cpp files are less than 20 sec (maybe less than 10), compared to 3:30 on windows!!
# [19:26] <seth> cpeterson: and maybe gt/gT for tabs.. lol.. rapidly approaching vimperator here
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# [19:27] <jesup> gps: final tally: make -f client.mk: ~14:30ish. ./mach build: 24:00
# [19:27] <@khuey> jesup: that's all .NOTPARALLEL ...
# [19:27] <jesup> I'm sticking with make!
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# [19:29] <jesup> khuey: but 5*(max 20) = <100s (maybe <60), not 200+
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# [19:30] <@khuey> jesup: ok, fair point, that's all .NOTPARALLEL and pymake taking a while to descend into dom/bindings
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# [19:30] <jesup> Are the linux builders using make or mach?
# [19:31] <@khuey> make I presume
# [19:31] <grobinson> i want to add a .properties file with a list of strings of messages suitable for localization. I would like to add it to the PropertiesFile enum in nsContentUtils.h, and I see how mappings are made from members of the enum to chrome:// urls in the gPropertiesFiles array in nsContentUtils.cpp. My question: how is the mapping from chrome:// urls to files in the source tree made?
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# [19:33] <cpeterson> Has anyone investigated distcc?
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# [19:33] <mbrubeck> I think maybe blassey set it up at some point? I'm calling on vague memories, though.
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# [19:34] * jesup does a make build on the same system with -s for use in comparing... too bad make doesn't timestamp each line....
# [19:34] <philor> sfink runs his own distcc compile farm, that's why so many people in the office find their computers running slowly when he's around
# [19:34] <jesup> aha! pipe it to logger!
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# [19:35] <Jesse> the reason we added CSS transforms and animations: http://starlogs.net/#mozilla/mozilla-central
# [19:35] <RyanVM> bholley: ping
# [19:35] <bholley> RyanVM: hi
# [19:35] <RyanVM> bholley: Hi :) Can you take a look at bug 860903 please?
# [19:35] <RyanVM> it's very frequent
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# [19:36] <jhammel> Jesse: lord christ that website needs a warning ;)
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# [19:38] <bholley> RyanVM: has it ever crashed in a non-opt build?
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# [19:38] <RyanVM|lunch> bholley: what you see in the bug is what I know
# [19:38] <jhammel> Jesse: audio; practically fell out of my seat, which is a sofa so that's saying something
# [19:38] <RyanVM|lunch> expand the tbplbot comments for all the ways it's been starred
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# [19:41] <@bsmedberg> dammit, finding a good twitter username is hard
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# [19:44] <Jesse> bsmedberg: "nsISupports" is available
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# [19:45] <@gavin> Ms2ger: pong
# [19:45] <Ms2ger> gavin, sorry, figured it out already :)
# [19:46] <@gavin> Ms2ger: what, out of curiosity?
# [19:46] <bholley> RyanVM|lunch: it's gabor's bug
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# [19:47] <RyanVM|lunch> bholley++ :)
# [19:48] <RyanVM|lunch> bholley, though I'm inclined to just back that out for now then
# [19:48] <bholley> RyanVM|lunch: just the last patch, but sure, go for it
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# [19:49] <bholley> RyanVM|lunch: (as long as you'll reland if it turns out not to fix it)
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# [19:49] <Jesse> bsmedberg: "OutOfProcess" and "OffMainThread" are also available
# [19:49] <@bsmedberg> Jesse: I chose "nsIAnswers", good suggestion!
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# [19:50] <Jesse> ok, but if someone else takes nsISupports, you'll have to follow them
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# [19:52] <RyanVM|lunch> bholley: fine by me
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# [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d85fd0be102d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8ce65f4eb1ba (bug 820170) for suspicion of causing bug 860903 on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [20:18] <@khuey> I wish firefox didn't like doing disk i/o on the main thread so much
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# [20:19] <tbsaunde> khuey: I hear patches are welcome ;)
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# [20:21] <@gavin> khuey: any specific I/O you particularly dislike?
# [20:22] <@dolske> gavin: the main thread ones, I think he said. ;-)
# [20:22] <jhammel> the I/O that is slow :P
# [20:22] <@khuey> dolske++
# [20:23] <sid0> ssds?
# [20:23] <@khuey> gavin: just that it seems to get quite janky while I'm building
# [20:23] <@khuey> sid0: I have an SSD
# [20:23] <sid0> oh, while you're building
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# [20:23] <jhammel> khuey: get a ramdisk :P
# [20:23] <@khuey> I'd need a new laptop
# [20:23] <sid0> bsmedberg: That is an awesome twitter username
# [20:23] <@khuey> but I've considered it
# [20:23] <jhammel> khuey: get a cray :P
# [20:24] <@khuey> yeah I'll get right on my manager to approve that
# [20:24] <sid0> khuey: we use fusion I/O here at fb. it's awesome
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# [20:25] <sid0> khuey: persistent super-fast flash over PCI express
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# [20:25] <jwir3> khuey: It's similar to fission i/o, but with less explosive capability
# [20:25] <sid0> http://www.fusionio.com/
# [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e8bbd291396a - Bob Clary - bug 860986 - SUTAgent - add abi to registration url, r=jmaher. DONTBUILD
# [20:25] <jhammel> jwir3: although you need tritium...
# [20:25] <@khuey> jwir3++
# [20:25] <jwir3> jhammel: I think dilithium will work...
# [20:26] <@khuey> sid0: interesting
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# [20:26] <jhammel> it *might* be at bad taste, but i always wanted to fly out to the plant at fukushima and put a sign on the door that says "gone fission"
# [20:27] <jhammel> i'm sure the joke doesn't work in japanese
# [20:27] <bhearsum> boo, inbound closed
# [20:29] <RyanVM|lunch> bz: 2h18m and 366 stars later, inbound's open :)
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# [20:30] <RyanVM|lunch> bz: pretty sure that gives you family supremacy over yesterday's bustage too :P
# [20:30] <bz> RyanVM|lunch: lol
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# [20:30] <bhearsum> RyanVM: yay!
# [20:31] <sfink> are you really still hand-starring every one of those jobs?
# [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cfabb78fc101 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 850489: Preferences screen scrolling in blue [r=mfinkle]
# [20:32] <sfink> surely *somebody* would feel incented enough to implement some sort of auto-starrer for situations like this
# [20:32] <jhammel> or, um, fix all the damn oranges
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# [20:32] <sfink> no, I'm talking about pending known failures
# [20:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16b7c4a657df - Ethan Hugg - Bug 855335 Patch 2 - Signaling fix warnings format-extra-args and format-security r=jesup
# [20:32] <jhammel> ahh, nm then
# [20:32] <RyanVM> seth: better get while the getting's good
# [20:33] <seth> RyanVM: thanks for the heads up
# [20:33] <jhammel> were i a sherriff....seems like i'd write a script
# [20:33] <RyanVM> sfink: if you know the shortcuts, it doesn't take as long as you think
# [20:33] <sfink> RyanVM: I implemented the damn shortcuts
# [20:33] <RyanVM> the longer part was keeping count as I did it :P
# [20:33] <RyanVM> heh
# [20:33] <RyanVM> hah
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# [20:33] <sfink> it was really insane before I did, because there was no multi-select
# [20:34] <RyanVM> space-p-space-p-space-p,ctrl+v+ctrl+enter
# [20:34] <RyanVM> really didn't take long
# [20:34] <RyanVM> i was starring the non-bustage failures throughout the closure
# [20:34] <sfink> yeah, but then every refresh you have to start over, right?
# [20:34] <jhammel> RyanVM also has an extension that makes starring the equivalent of space invaders + tetris
# [20:34] <RyanVM> no
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# [20:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbec3b84cf8b - Seth Fowler - Bug 853774 - nsBulletFrame should handle its requests more safely. r=tn
# [20:34] <RyanVM> sfink: tbpl refreshing doesn't unselect
# [20:34] <sfink> oh, not start over in that way
# [20:35] <RyanVM> but I was also going in chunks of around 30 because it does slow the browser down otherwise
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# [20:35] <sfink> I just mean do it over again on the latest crop of failures that have reported in
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# [20:35] <RyanVM> sfink; that's why I just waited to do them all in one batch :P
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# [20:35] <sfink> ok, *that* makes sense! :)
# [20:35] <RyanVM> :)
# [20:36] <RyanVM> randix: fwiw, the nss crash seems to be back in full force on inbound
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# [20:37] <RyanVM> oh yeah, you un-assigned from that
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# [20:37] <RyanVM> nvm then
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# [20:37] <firebot> Check-in:
# [20:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0bda1b44155 - Ben Hearsum - bug 859101: tar Cannot open: File or path name too long when for test_document.getElementsByName-newelements.html.json and test_script-IDL-event-htmlfor.html.json -
# [20:37] <firebot> shorten imported w3c tests. r=Ms2ger
# [20:38] <bhearsum> RyanVM: fyi, if there's failures in mochitest-2 after my patch, it's almost certainly me
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# [20:38] <jmaher> jimm: ping
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# [20:38] <bhearsum> i don't expect any, just wanted to note that just in case
# [20:38] <RyanVM> bhearsum: thanks for the heads-up
# [20:38] <bhearsum> yw
# [20:38] <jimm> jmaher: pong
# [20:38] <RyanVM> who maintains firebot these days?
# [20:38] <RyanVM> would nice if it polled treestatus automatically
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# [20:40] <GeKo> khuey: ping
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# [20:42] <@khuey> GeKo: pong
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# [20:42] <GeKo> khuey: Do you have a minute to discuss your last comment on bug 842473?
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# [20:43] <@khuey> GeKo: sure
# [20:43] <@khuey> what's up?
# [20:43] <jmaher> jimm: I am not able to run your patch for mochiperf stuff, I know it needs metro- is there a way to easily run it on linux?
# [20:43] <GeKo> khuey: I was under the impression that comment 74 wanted steps you in particular could reproduce.
# [20:44] <GeKo> khuey: That's why I was asking.
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# [20:44] <@khuey> GeKo: ah
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# [20:44] <@khuey> GeKo: so from reading comment 37
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# [20:44] <NeilAway> Jesse++
# [20:44] <@khuey> GeKo: I assume you have to have some sort of proxy setup in order to hit this crash
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# [20:45] <@khuey> GeKo: and I don't have time to try to get that set up and then try to reproduce. I would really like QA to do that ...
# [20:45] <Jesse> NeilAway: for?
# [20:45] <GeKo> khuey: Yes, probably.
# [20:45] <NeilAway> Jesse: following nsISupports
# [20:45] <@khuey> GeKo: and then once we have something that someone knows reproduces I can look at the crash
# [20:45] <Jesse> NeilAway: are you on twitter?
# [20:45] <NeilAway> Jesse: no
# [20:46] <GeKo> khuey: Okay.
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# [20:46] <jimm> jmaher: unfortunately not, the mochitest-metro-chrome tests are all self contained and need to be run on win8/metro. however it shouldn't be too hard to separate out the perf tests from the metro stuff, what you need is the perf test files, perfhelpers.js, and head.js.
# [20:46] <NeilAway> RyanVM++
# [20:46] <jimm> those should run in any mochitest directory
# [20:46] <GeKo> khuey: The user that can reproduce the crash 100% is not enough?
# [20:47] <jimm> (if you config them right via the makefile)
# [20:47] <jmaher> jimm: ok, I will make my own stuff, let me whip something together
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# [20:47] <jmaher> jimm: btw, your makefile logic has a ..\mochitest\ instead of ../mochitest/ ;)
# [20:47] <RyanVM> NeilAway: oh boy, what did I do?
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# [20:47] <jimm> jmaher: note most of the existing perf tests I've written rely on meto specific from end features.
# [20:47] <@khuey> GeKo: well I really need to look at the crash under valgrind or some tool for debugging memory corruption
# [20:47] <NeilAway> RyanVM: asked for firebot to announce tree status
# [20:48] <RyanVM> oh, yeah
# [20:48] <@khuey> GeKo: debugging via this user is really slow and complicated
# [20:48] <jimm> jmaher: :) sorry!
# [20:48] <jmaher> jimm: yeah, that wouldn't run well on linux ;)
# [20:48] <RyanVM> i've been thinking about updating the topic message when I close too
# [20:48] <jimm> jmaher: let me post the current wip too
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# [20:49] <GeKo> khuey: I agree, *sigh*.
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# [20:49] <@khuey> GeKo: I commented in the bug a bit
# [20:49] <@khuey> GeKo: lets see what ashughes has to say
# [20:49] <GeKo> khuey: Just read it, thanks!
# [20:49] <armenzg> why are the b2g_ics_armv7a_gecko_emulator jobs hidden on mozilla-central and mozilla-inbound?
# [20:50] <armenzg> philor: RyanVM ^ do you know?
# [20:50] <NeilAway> Jesse: that site works better if you go to the home page and type the repo in manually
# [20:50] <RyanVM> armenzg: the reftests and crashtests? Because of high failure rate
# [20:50] <Jesse> NeilAway: better in what way?
# [20:50] <@khuey> GeKo: if all else fails we can try reproducing under valgrind
# [20:51] <@khuey> GeKo: IIRC he already got it to happen under linux
# [20:51] <@khuey> GeKo: anyways, lunch time for me
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# [20:51] <NeilAway> Jesse: you get the fly past
# [20:51] <armenzg> RyanVM: if we disabled them until they were more stable who would be the first people to complain?
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# [20:51] <armenzg> they currently account for two thirds of our load on Fedora32 machines
# [20:52] <RyanVM> armenzg: didn't that bug get wontfixed yesterday?
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# [20:52] <armenzg> what bug is that?
# [20:53] <RyanVM> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861024
# [20:53] <RyanVM> oh, it was duped
# [20:53] <RyanVM> and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853024 covers the un-hiding
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# [20:53] <RyanVM> pretty sure ahal's been working pretty hard on getting them green again
# [20:53] <RyanVM> and supposedly that'll be one of the tasks for the work week as well
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# [20:56] <RyanVM> armenzg: talk to joduinn about it, I guess
# [20:57] <ahal> I'm just worried that if they got disabled there would be less motivation to fix them
# [20:58] <Asa> anyone know if multi-select in html form widgets being somewaht broken is a known issue?
# [20:58] <tbsaunde> jmaher: so, what was the story on why you want everything to be /tests/harness/ ? I don't think I ever heard a good reason
# [20:58] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, that's because there is none
# [20:58] <RyanVM> ahal: a very safe bet
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# [20:58] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I agree, but sometimes I'm nice and believe people have good motivation until proven otherwise
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# [20:59] <ahal> RyanVM: I have no idea how to get them green again though.. for that matter I don't know how to get people to care about them either
# [20:59] <ahal> jgriffin was going to talk to people at the work week about it
# [20:59] <ahal> (I'm not going)
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# [21:00] <RyanVM> how do I create an etherpad with a "regular" looking URL?
# [21:00] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: so, did we decide we wheren't going to do it?
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, just load it and click the button
# [21:00] <ahal> RyanVM: just type it in the url bar
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, I expect that they're going to go ahead despite the lack of motivation
# [21:01] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: note the second half
# [21:01] <RyanVM> I know how to make a new one
# [21:01] <RyanVM> but not without a random URL
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, right
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# [21:01] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, load etherpad.mozilla.org/foo-bar
# [21:01] <RyanVM> oh, gotcha
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, and then click the button
# [21:01] <RyanVM> thanks
# [21:01] <Ms2ger> Np
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# [21:02] <jmaher> Ms2ger: bah
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# [21:02] <Ms2ger> jmaher, bah indeed
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# [21:03] <jmaher> tbsaunde: about 1/3 of the directories are already organized that way- this cleans it up, gives us options for copy a directory instead of file by file, and makes it more logical to figure out which type of test your are working with
# [21:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf2307b4ccd4 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 858809 - Don't wait until shutdown to save search engine order. r=gavin
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# [21:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a84b4562333 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 730445 - Add UI to specify a default search engine. r=mfinkle
# [21:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f900dd273053 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 861005 - Get rid of Fennec FormAutoComplete component. r=mfinkle
# [21:04] <Ms2ger> I don't buy the copy-by-dir argument
# [21:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45a191a4e3fb - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 838368 - Remove unused modules. r=mfinkle
# [21:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47e42a3aebe9 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 858809 - Tests for _saveSortedEngineList. r=gavin
# [21:04] <jmaher> Ms2ger: oh?
# [21:04] <tbsaunde> jmaher: "lean its up" honestly I'd say cleaning it up would be to get rid of as many things as we have that are organized that way
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# [21:05] <jmaher> tbsaunde: that would be another way to look at it
# [21:05] <armenzg_mtg> RyanVM: ahal jgriffin could we get them better on Cedar? and get a promise from devs to fix them?
# [21:05] <Ms2ger> How about conditionally enabled tests?
# [21:05] <tbsaunde> jmaher: you can already tell easily enough by file extensions / test name
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# [21:05] <jgriffin> armenzg_mtg: get what on cedar? reftests?
# [21:05] <armenzg_mtg> ahal: RyanVM jgriffin we should only run them on the iX machines (rather than the Fedora32 ones)
# [21:05] <armenzg_mtg> jgriffin: emulator jobs
# [21:06] <armenzg_mtg> they currently are 2/3 of our load on fed32
# [21:06] <RyanVM> armenzg_mtg: I'm not the guy to be answering that
# [21:06] <armenzg_mtg> and we want to repurpose fed32 and fed64 minis as WinXP and Win7 machines
# [21:06] <jmaher> tbsaunde: somewhat; a lot of times there are .html files which are used for browser chrome, or for plain- no idea which one. mochitest-chrome and mochitest-plain are almost interchangeable
# [21:06] <armenzg_mtg> RyanVM: thanks for your help
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# [21:06] <jgriffin> armenzg_mtg: I think we could move them to the IX machines
# [21:06] <jmaher> Ms2ger: conditionally enabled tests? as in per directory structure?
# [21:06] <jgriffin> but we want to keep them on inbound/central/etc
# [21:06] <tbsaunde> jmaher: if its browser_*.js its m-b-c if its *.xul then its m-c if its *.html then its m-p ..
# [21:06] <armenzg_mtg> jgriffin: that would be super super great
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# [21:07] <Ms2ger> jmaher, no, some tests within a dir that aren't run everywhere
# [21:07] <armenzg_mtg> jgriffin: we can keep them on m-c and m-i on the iX machines
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# [21:07] <jmaher> tbsaunde: we have some test_*.xul for mochitest-plain, and some test_*.html for mochitest-chrome
# [21:07] <jgriffin> armenzg_mtg: but, there is some problem with the emulator and compiz on the IX machines
# [21:07] <jgriffin> so that needs to be solved first
# [21:07] <jmaher> tbsaunde: but you are right, it is more of the exception rather than the rule
# [21:07] <jgriffin> armenzg_mtg: see bug 859867
# [21:08] <jmaher> Ms2ger: currently you need to have the Makefile exclude that from copying
# [21:08] <Ms2ger> jmaher, exactly
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# [21:08] <Ms2ger> jmaher, so you can't do copy-by-dir
# [21:08] <jmaher> Ms2ger: if you copied the entire directory, you would need a manifest- which will give you other benefits as well
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# [21:09] <armenzg_mtg> jgriffin: while they're hidden and consuming CPU can we disable them on m-c/m-i?
# [21:09] <jgriffin> no
# [21:09] <armenzg_mtg> we can keep on running them on cedar and birch for b2g work week
# [21:09] <tbsaunde> jmaher: but you'd still be copying stuff that doesn't need to be copied and arguably could cause trouble
# [21:09] <jgriffin> they're still being watched and catching problems
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# [21:09] <armenzg_mtg> that's fine
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# [21:11] <Ms2ger> jmaher, and I'm not exactly sure if copy-by-dir would have particularly compelling benefits
# [21:11] <jmaher> tbsaunde: I hear more feedback that flattening the existing directory structures would be beneficial
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# [21:16] <tbsaunde> jmaher: I'm not sure what your first sentence is argueing for
# [21:16] <tbsaunde> jmaher: maybe its because we're right ;)
# [21:16] <jmaher> tbsaunde: Ms2ger: thanks for the conversation; I need to sit on this some more based on a few conversations and the dev.platform thread feedback
# [21:17] <tbsaunde> np :)
# [21:17] <jmaher> tbsaunde: well there are no rights and wrongs, just opinions and data :)
# [21:17] <Ms2ger> yw
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# [21:30] <bz> is mxr dead?
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> No
# [21:31] <KWierso|Home> just taking forever to return a search result
# [21:31] * bz can't get actual files
# [21:31] <bz> searches work
# [21:31] <bz> loading an actual file does not
# [21:31] <bz> o
# [21:31] <bz> er, ok
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# [21:31] <bz> taking forever to return a search result
# [21:31] <bz> ../../../mozilla/layout/base/FrameLayerBuilder.cpp:2044:40: error: use of undeclared identifier 'AppUnitsPerDevPixel'
# [21:31] <bz> Anyone else hitting this on inbound?
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# [21:34] <bz> #ifdef MOZ_DUMP_PAINTING
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# [21:35] <bz> wait
# [21:35] <bz> this is inside an NS_ASSERTION
# [21:36] <bz> ../../../mozilla/layout/base/FrameLayerBuilder.cpp:2044:40: error: use of undeclared identifier 'AppUnitsPerDevPixel'
# [21:36] <bz> do { if (!(mAppUnitsPerDevPixel == AppUnitsPerDevPixel(item))) { NS_DebugBreak(NS_DEBUG_ASSERTION, "items in a container layer should all have the same app units per dev pixel", "mAppUnitsPerDevPixel == AppUnitsPerDevPixel(item)", "../../../mozilla/layout/base/FrameLayerBuilder.cpp", 2045); } } while(0);
# [21:36] <bz> What the?
# [21:36] <bz> (this is an opt build!)
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# [21:36] <bz> But -DDEBUG is being passed on the command line
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# [21:38] <luisbg> bz, mxr is working well for me
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# [21:39] <luisbg> but sometimes in firefox file loading fails (just an empty page)
# [21:39] <luisbg> in other browser (which should rename unnamed) that doesn't happen
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# [21:50] <@bsmedberg> ted: was it intentional that http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/da871640d448/toolkit/crashreporter/nsExceptionHandler.cpp doesn't affect windows?
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# [21:53] <JonathanS> "JavaScript is a trademark of Oracle Corporation in the U.S. and other countries. " orly?
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# [21:54] <irving> is it possible to get xpcshell to listen to the new remote browser debugging protocol, so we can debug tests?
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# [22:00] <philor> weird, we've been open for 1.5 hours
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# [22:00] <philor> are tests not actually running?
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# [22:01] <catlee> philor: which platform?
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# [22:02] <RyanVM> hah, inorite?
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# [22:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37b472c847b1 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 850442 - Part 3 - Convert callbacks, Geolocation and Position. r=bz
# [22:02] <RyanVM> I guess putting bz's head on a pike scared everyone straight :)
# [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/394ca10bb287 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 850442 - Part 2 - Convert PositionError. r=bz
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# [22:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbfbde1ca247 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 850442 - Part 1 - Wrap nsGeoPosition and nsGeoPositionCoords into Position and Coordinates. r=bz
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# [22:03] <philor> catlee: they seem to actually be running, that's just the only explanation I could come up with for why https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1 didn't show anything and didn't have a red CLOSED at the top after all that time
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# [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe1999ee55af - Douglas Crosher - Bug 861139 - Fix the return of a floating point value from an ARM asm.js entry. r=mrosenberg
# [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fb4bd994bdf - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 860892 - IPC failure handling in CompositorChild and ShadowLayers. r=jmuizelaar
# [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7fc583deeb3 - Luis de Bethencourt - Bug 859158 - Remove unneeded ifdef DEBUG_joe. r=joedrew
# [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9aac7a9d61be - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 858578 - Update bundled libpng to version 1.5.15. r=joedrew
# [22:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f81774f097c3 - Luis de Bethencourt - Bug 859158 - Removed unused ifdef DEBUG in imgRequest.cpp. r=joedrew
# [22:27] <JosiahOne> Could someone explain what the $(MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT) part of this line does:
# [22:27] <JosiahOne> ifneq (,$(filter windows cocoa, $(MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT)))
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# [22:27] <JosiahOne> Does that check check if another define is true?
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# [22:28] <JosiahOne> I meant a single check
# [22:28] <gcp> checks if it's neither of those
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# [22:28] <seth> mbrubeck: ping
# [22:28] <mbrubeck> seth: pong
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# [22:29] <seth> mbrubeck: so regarding bug 859377, i have to say i'm a bit astonished that all of those tests could be affected so much
# [22:29] <JosiahOne> gcp: Ohh. Does ifneq mean "if not equal"
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# [22:29] <gcp> yep
# [22:29] <seth> mbrubeck: this change only affected -moz-image-rect and border-image
# [22:29] <Ms2ger> gcp, not true
# [22:29] <JosiahOne> What.
# [22:29] <seth> mbrubeck: are the tests in the codebase?
# [22:29] <Ms2ger> gcp, it tests that MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT is either windows or cocoa
# [22:30] <@bsmedberg> JosiahOne: it checks whether moz_widget_toolkit == "windows" || moz_widget_toolkit == "cocoa"
# [22:30] <mbrubeck> seth: The test code is at http://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/
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# [22:30] <gcp> oh yeah
# [22:30] <@bsmedberg> in the most arcane syntax possible, of course
# [22:30] <gcp> it's not equal empty
# [22:30] <Ms2ger> Move it all to moz.build, dammit
# [22:30] <JosiahOne> bsmedberg: Oh, okay, thanks.
# [22:31] <seth> mbrubeck: OK. i'll look through the tests and try to get a sense of what is actually being tested here
# [22:31] <mbrubeck> seth: I'm still staring at this SVG Opacity graph; it seems to swing between extremes in a weird way, and I was just about to crack open to code/data to try to figure out why.
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# [22:31] <mbrubeck> seth: A lot of the tests can end up measuring things other than what they were intended to. :/
# [22:31] <luisbg> RyanVM, thanks for pushing those commits :)
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# [22:32] <seth> mbrubeck: i guess we'll find out =) we don't have profiling data before and after, do we? (i mean hot functions, that sort of thing)
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# [22:33] <RyanVM> luisbg: np :)
# [22:33] <mbrubeck> seth: no, I think you'll have to profile locally to get that
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# [22:33] <seth> mbrubeck: OK. i'm on the case
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# [22:34] <Bl4d3> On http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/20.0.1/releasenotes/ we can click on « complete list of changes » to see all changes firefox 20 have... but I cannot see how to use the edit search to see all changes for 20.0.1 only
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# [22:37] <mbrubeck> seth: So, check out this SVG Opacity graph: http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[225,63,12],[225,131,12]]&sel=1358023044077,1365799044077&displayrange=90&datatype=running
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# [22:38] <mbrubeck> seth: There was a huge improvement that appears to be from a change in this range: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=c994692d1ea8&tochange=7d2ea731f5a5
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# [22:38] <mbrubeck> but that improvement disappeared and we regressed back to the previous average each your change landed.
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# [22:39] <seth> mbrubeck: that is beyond puzzling
# [22:40] <seth> mbrubeck: what could possibly have caused the improvement? only bug 590422 seems reasonable
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# [22:40] <mbrubeck> no idea
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# [22:41] <mbrubeck> also see how weirdly noisy and multimodal the data is
# [22:41] <mbrubeck> I wonder if it's really sensitive to some compiler optimization that's getting enabled or disabled
# [22:41] <mbrubeck> (not PGO, though, since non-PGO builds show the same changes)
# [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c49c270b94c7 - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 832091 - Guard against crashes in resolveDOMCollectionProperty. r=bholley, a=bajaj
# [22:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/80a675915298 - Chris Lord - Bug 858550 - Don't transform fixed layer descendents multiple times. r=nrc, a=bajaj
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# [22:43] <seth> mbrubeck: the bug i mentioned changed the refresh rate of timers and suchlike
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# [22:43] <dholbert> Bl4d3, it might *just* be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846848 , but I'm not sure
# [22:43] <seth> mbrubeck: seems like it could have unpredictable effects depending on how these tests work
# [22:43] <mbrubeck> yeah
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# [22:44] <seth> mbrubeck: i bet that's the source of the improvement
# [22:44] <seth> mbrubeck: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590422#c29
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# [22:45] <seth> mbrubeck: notice the results for SVG, Opacity Row Major
# [22:45] <seth> mbrubeck: better by 56% on XP and by 2-10% elsewhere
# [22:45] <mbrubeck> interesting
# [22:45] <dholbert> Bl4d3, you can check https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/pushloghtml to see the actual code changes. Between the 20_0 and 20_0_1 tags there, it looks like the only code changes are the bug I mentioned above, plus https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857291 , plus some android-only changes
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# [22:46] <mbrubeck> seth: SVG Opacity is a pageloader test, which means it grabs a Date.now timestamp, calls getBrowser().loadURI, waits for "load" or "MozAfterPaint", then grabs another Date.now timestamp and subtracts them. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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# [22:48] <seth> mbrubeck: i can see how that behavior could change
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# [22:55] <Bl4d3> dholbert :(
# [22:55] <seth> mbrubeck: !!
# [22:56] <seth> dholbert: just spitballin' here...
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# [22:56] <seth> dholbert: but when you used ExtractFrame on a VectorImage, the resulting new VectorImage didn't have an mRenderingObserver, right?
# [22:58] <seth> dholbert: that means that invalidations from the VectorImage's internal SVG document weren't propagated out for those VectorImages (i.e., VectorImage::InvalidateObserver never got called)
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# [22:58] <seth> dholbert: now those invalidations _do_ get delivered
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# [22:58] <ctalbert> ffledgling: pong, in mtgs
# [22:58] <seth> dholbert/mbrubeck: i'm wondering if this could explain part of the performance drop in the SVG test?
# [22:58] <dholbert> seth, SVG Opacity test you mean?
# [22:59] <seth> dholbert: yup
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# [22:59] <dholbert> seth, does that test use SVG as an image? I think it was created well before we supported SVG in images
# [22:59] <dholbert> seth, (RE mRenderingObserver, I don't recall, but you may be correct about that)
# [22:59] <seth> dholbert: that's a good question and i don't know the answer
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# [23:00] <dholbert> seth, yup. worth looking at the test files to see what they're doing
# [23:00] <mbrubeck> dholbert: It appears to load a .svg file directly
# [23:00] <mbrubeck> i.e. loading "http://path/to/file.svg" in a tab
# [23:00] <dholbert> gotcha
# [23:00] <seth> that would be a bit weird then
# [23:00] <seth> i wouldn't expect ExtractFrame to be called in that context
# [23:01] <seth> but yet ExtractFrame is exactly what my patch changes!
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# [23:01] <mbrubeck> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/527ed20483a8/talos/page_load_test/svg_opacity/svg_opacity.manifest
# [23:01] <seth> mbrubeck: is this link to the talos tests cloneable somehow?
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# [23:02] <mbrubeck> seth: Yeah, hg clone https://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/
# [23:02] <dholbert> and the SVG files are just tons of <rect>s with opacity set
# [23:02] <dholbert> no images, no foreignobject with a css background = this URL, nothing like that which would trigger SVG-as-an-image
# [23:02] <seth> bizarre!
# [23:03] <dholbert> https://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/527ed20483a8/talos/page_load_test/svg_opacity/big-optimizable-group-opacity-2500.svg and https://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/527ed20483a8/talos/page_load_test/svg_opacity/small-group-opacity-2500.svg
# [23:05] <seth> i'm gonna try adding logging statements to the code that i changed and see if it gets run when loading those images
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# [23:05] <seth> it's time to experiment because understanding this a priori is not working too well for me
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# [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43592a61a366 - Chris Peterson - Bug 861073 - Add configure check that --with-android-version is at least 9. r=glandium
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# [23:17] <JosiahOne> So if I need to add a tree-wise define, how would I do that?
# [23:17] <jwir3> JosiahOne: "tree-wise" as in...?
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# [23:18] <jwir3> JosiahOne: You mean a global define?
# [23:18] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Yes. Sorry.
# [23:18] <JosiahOne> jwir3: One that I can access on Fx and TB.
# [23:18] <jwir3> JosiahOne: You could add a -D option to your .mozconfig. Something like:
# [23:18] <jwir3> MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS='--no-print-directory -s -j8 -D<whatever>'
# [23:19] <jwir3> (I think)
# [23:19] <JosiahOne> jwir3: But I will need this to eventually be a patch and land? I wouldn't still use that would I?
# [23:20] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Would I use Makefile.in?
# [23:20] <jwir3> JosiahOne: oh, no... if you need it in your patch, then it needs to go somewhere else... sorry.
# [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62db06ab5e42 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 738818 followup: remove now-unused portions of test
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# [23:20] <jwir3> JosiahOne: I thought you were trying to enable a debug flag or something
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# [23:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75e216c59813 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 860033 - un-generic-ify _showExceptions, r=gavin
# [23:21] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Ah no. Sorry for not making that clear. Perhaps I should add more info. I need to add a global define to be used as a patch. Just a simple YES flag really. In my code (and now other bugs) we are using a define that needs to be added. I just need to add it so it always returns YES.
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# [23:22] <JosiahOne> jwir3: I thought maybe it was suppose to be something like "DEFINES += DEFINENAME" in Makefile.in
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# [23:24] <kunal> IS here any one from GSOC 13
# [23:24] <kunal> ?
# [23:24] <jwir3> JosiahOne: yeah, sorry, I don't know too much about the build system I think maybe khuey or jlebar would know more than I...
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# [23:25] <JosiahOne> jwir3: Okay, thanks for your help.
# [23:25] <JosiahOne> khuey: Ping.
# [23:25] <@khuey> JosiahOne: hi
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# [23:26] <JosiahOne> khuey: I need to add a global define to be used as a patch. Just a simple YES flag really. In my code (and now other bugs) we are using a define that needs to be added. I just need to add it so it always returns YES. How is this done?
# [23:26] <kunal> is here any one who can mentor me in GSOC 13
# [23:26] <kunal> ?
# [23:26] <jwir3> kunal: try #introduction
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# [23:27] <@khuey> JosiahOne: I don't understand. if it's always yes why do you need a flag?
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# [23:28] <kunal> hmm it was suggested that i should talk to a developer over this channe;
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# [23:28] <seth> mbrubeck: is there some way i can manually run talos tests that will end up on this graph?
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# [23:30] <JosiahOne> khuey: Back story time… In a not so far of land there were many Australis patches blocking Australis. But in order for Australis to work properly everything would need to land at the same time. To make things easier, we are putting #ifdef's using the AUSTRALIS flag to enable our patches to land before Australis does. We would land this define when Australis does, but for now, I would like to have a patch ready that
# [23:30] <JosiahOne> turns this on for testing purposes.
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# [23:31] <jwir3> australis
# [23:31] <JosiahOne> khuey: Hopefully that helps.
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# [23:31] <JosiahOne> jwir3: :)
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# [23:32] <@khuey> JosiahOne: ok, so there's #ifdef AUSTRALIS scattered around and you want to know how to activate those flags?
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# [23:32] <JosiahOne> khuey: Correct.
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# [23:34] <dholbert> JosiahOne, https://bug666041.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=560241 worked for flexbox code, FWIW
# [23:34] <@khuey> JosiahOne: so somewhere in configure.in add
# [23:34] <dholbert> JosiahOne, to get MOZ_FLEXBOX #defined everywhere
# [23:34] <@khuey> if test "$AUSTRALIS"; then
# [23:34] <@khuey> AC_DEFINE(AUSTRALIS)
# [23:34] <@khuey> fi
# [23:34] <@khuey> AC_SUBST(ASUTRALIS)
# [23:34] <@khuey> and then just set it in your environment
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# [23:35] <@khuey> JosiahOne: yeah pretty much what dholbert suggested
# [23:36] <@khuey> except that there's no config/autoconf.mk.in anymore
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# [23:36] <dholbert> JosiahOne, and then in builds where you want it enabled, just replace that first "=" line with "=1"
# [23:37] <JosiahOne> khuey, dholbert: Hmm, I can make that a patch then?
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# [23:38] <Gijs> crussell: for HTML videocontrols, or for DOMI changes so we can see wth we're doing? :)
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# [23:39] <crussell> Gijs: HTML videocontrols
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# [23:40] <Gijs> crussell: bug 726240, but IIRC there's a more general one.
# [23:41] <crussell> Gijs: thanks
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# [23:44] <crussell> Gijs: btw, for the latter issue in the meantime, you can get at native anonymous content with through DOM events, IIRC and nothing has changed since I last looked
# [23:44] <Gijs> crussell: "with through DOM events"?
# [23:44] <Gijs> Can you expand on what you mean?
# [23:45] * Gijs would just like DOMI / web inspector to (be able to) show it
# [23:45] <dholbert> JosiahOne, yeah
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# [23:45] <dholbert> JosiahOne, I'd suggest making a patch like the one I linked above, and having a build peer (like khuey) review it
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# [23:45] <dholbert> JosiahOne, and landing it
# [23:45] <crussell> Gijs: when clicking on native anonymous content, for example, the native anonymous subtree is exposed via one of the target properties on the event
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# [23:46] <crussell> whether it's originalTarget, explicitOriginalTarget, or something, else, I don't know; you'd have to check
# [23:46] <dholbert> JosiahOne, and then ayone who wants to have AUSTRALIS defined can just change AUSTRALIS= to AUSTRALIS=1 in their configure.in (e.g. as the first patch in their australis patch queue)
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# [23:47] <seth> mbrubeck: ping
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# [23:47] <crussell> Gijs: so if you're feeling really hacky, as stopgap for the meantime, you could make some local changes to DOM Inspector to get the DOM Nodes pane to show the subtrees you're intrested in
# [23:47] <Gijs> crussell: bug 125082
# [23:47] <JosiahOne> dholbert: That's a good idea. But I must have done something wrong here. I get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2299803
# [23:48] <Gijs> (roc gave dolske and me some good advice, and now I have a working patch, it seems)
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# [23:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d757eeebcc43 - Ralph Giles - Bug 860338 - remove MOZ_WEBVTT. r=ted
# [23:48] <crussell> Gijs: yeah, I saw that
# [23:49] <crussell> Gijs: so do you have a local build with those changes where DOMi is showing you the stuff you want now?
# [23:49] <Gijs> crussell: yes
# [23:49] <crussell> Gijs: ah, okay, nevermind then :)
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# [23:49] <JosiahOne> dholbert: So far I only changed configure.in, was I suppose to do more? Since autoconf.mk.in is absolute now, I thought that was it.
# [23:50] <dholbert> JosiahOne, I think you only need the configure.in stuff now, correct
# [23:50] <dholbert> JosiahOne, (you can test w/ some #ifdef'd code to be sure)
# [23:50] <JosiahOne> dholbert: But I got that error.
# [23:51] <dholbert> JosiahOne, pastebin the patch?
# [23:51] <JosiahOne> dholbert: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2299816
# [23:52] <dholbert> JosiahOne, so I don't know configure.in syntax very well; all I can say is, do what I did in my patch above, and it'll likely work
# [23:52] <dholbert> JosiahOne, right now you're missing an "AUSTRALIS=" line, which might be what it's complaining about
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# [23:53] <dholbert> JosiahOne, (setting that variable to the empty string)
# [23:53] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Is there a specific place I should add that, or just somewhere after my existing lines?
# [23:53] <dholbert> JosiahOne, no idea
# [23:54] <dholbert> above your existing lines, though
# [23:54] <dholbert> JosiahOne, probably where we have a giant block of other STUFF=1
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# [23:54] <dholbert> JosiahOne, e.g. you could stick it near where we have MOZ_FLEXBOX=1
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# [23:55] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Good idea.
# [23:55] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Trying again...
# [23:56] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Hmm. Nope, didn't work.
# [23:56] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Still getting AUSTRALIS , command not found
# [23:56] <dholbert> JosiahOne, let's take this over to #build, and can you pastebin the new patch?
# [23:57] <JosiahOne> dholbert: Yeah.
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# [23:58] <mbrubeck> seth: pong
# [23:59] <seth> mbrubeck: if i run the talos tests on a try benchmark, does it end up on a graph somewhere so i can compare against the existing results?
# [00:00] <esprehn> anyone know who to talk to about the Network Info API around here? :)
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