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  8. # [00:09] <philor> does anybody know any good words I can use on the occasion of seeing that b2g desktop apparently pulls some now-broken external repo that affects the build?
  9. # [00:10] <KWierso|Home> philor: do they need to be more than four characters long?
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  12. # [00:10] <philor> I think I've used all of those, with all possible suffixes, already
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  68. # [01:30] <wsm> KWierso|Home: thanks yeah. seen that. no idea what it means.
  69. # [01:31] <KWierso|Home> wsm: yeah, sorry, I have no clue either... it *seems* like that should only affect older, external scripts, which *should* be disabled in safe mode, no?
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  110. # [02:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a62020b78ac - Wes Kocher - Bug 861277 - Uplift addon-sdk's integration branch
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  137. # [02:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/104ba36f44c0 - Brian Hackett - Bug 845596 - Keep track of free variables during syntax parsing, r=jorendorff.
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  139. # [03:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a6b56a3f243 - Jose Cortes - Bug 842186 - Replace use of jsval with JS::Value in dom/base. r=jwalden
  140. # [03:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e0c8f29b023 - Jeff Walden - Bug 860931 - Remove a bunch of deadwood autoconf defines. r=ted
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  161. # [03:34] <KWierso|Home> philor: what's that m2 orange on my push?
  162. # [03:35] <philor> KWierso|Home: "mochit" in my world, though I wish I'd picked some better thing to teach my awesomebar
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  168. # [03:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f21835504604 - Ralph Giles - Bug 860338 - remove MOZ_WEBVTT. r=ted
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  172. # [03:52] <ekr> Is there a way to read environment variables from a mochitest?
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  176. # [03:57] <@khuey> W T F
  177. # [03:58] <ekr> khuey: are you WTFing me?
  178. # [03:58] <@khuey> rillian: ping?
  179. # [03:58] <ekr> or someone else
  180. # [03:58] <@khuey> ekr: no
  181. # [03:58] <ekr> ok, good. I like to know when I am doing something WTFable
  182. # [03:59] <@khuey> philor: do you know that clobbering fixed bug 860338, or was that just a theory?
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  184. # [04:00] <philor> khuey: well, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=f21835504604 should tell us, but my memory of it was that it wasn't "some platforms burn and some don't" so much as "some happened to be clobbers"
  185. # [04:01] <@khuey> philor: it's not clear to me how that patch is expected to build at all
  186. # [04:02] <@khuey> since it builds media/webvtt after layout/media ...
  187. # [04:04] <philor> conveniently, at least two of the busted builds before actually *were* clobbers
  188. # [04:05] <@khuey> I would expect this patch to fail 100% of the time with a clobber
  189. # [04:05] <@khuey> and only work with an existing objdir
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  191. # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c09ade1b900 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out f21835504604 (bug 860338) for build bustage
  192. # [04:09] <@khuey> philor: thanks
  193. # [04:09] <@khuey> conveniently enough it failed again on tip :-P
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  195. # [04:10] <tbsaunde> and now we've touched the clobber file again to no purpose :p
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  199. # [04:11] <@khuey> indeed
  200. # [04:11] <philor> but I backed it out!
  201. # [04:11] <philor> :)
  202. # [04:12] <philor> everybody wave bye-bye to bhackett
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  206. # [04:13] <@khuey> for once it's not the build system's fault
  207. # [04:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adb1bbf756b9 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 104ba36f44c0 (bug 845596) for jsreftest assertions
  208. # [04:14] <philor> yeah, I don't know why I thought it might have needed a clobber
  209. # [04:14] * philor vows to just back out everything that fails to build
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  211. # [04:14] <KWierso|Home> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-KmOd3i7s
  212. # [04:14] <tbsaunde> philor: yeah, but mercurial still touches it right
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  215. # [04:14] <@khuey> philor++
  216. # [04:15] <@khuey> tbsaunde: yeah cause mercurial haz teh stupid
  217. # [04:15] <@khuey> we need to start doing a comparison of the file contents
  218. # [04:15] <@khuey> rather than just mtime
  219. # [04:15] <rillian> khuey: pong
  220. # [04:15] <@khuey> rillian: too late :-P
  221. # [04:15] <@khuey> see the bug
  222. # [04:16] <tbsaunde> khuey: and platform checks and ... and then guess what we'll have made
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  224. # [04:16] <KWierso|Home> a somewhat decent build system?
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  227. # [04:17] <rillian> khuey: well, at least you understand what happened
  228. # [04:18] <@khuey> rillian: it's easy enough to fix
  229. # [04:18] * @khuey blames a certain reviewer for not catching it
  230. # [04:18] <rillian> so the order of dirs in toolkit.mozbuild makes a difference?
  231. # [04:18] <@khuey> yes
  232. # [04:19] <@khuey> a really important difference
  233. # [04:19] <@khuey> so if you just move media/webvtt back where it was you should be ok
  234. # [04:19] <rillian> khuey: *sigh* ok
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  236. # [04:20] <rillian> khuey: do we still need to clobber?
  237. # [04:20] <@khuey> no
  238. # [04:20] <@khuey> no clobbering is necessary
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  241. # [04:21] <philor> no! that's a bad build system!
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  244. # [04:23] <rillian> khuey: so...toolkit.mozbuild is actually imperative, not declarative, and it's the dependency between layout and all the stuff in gkmedias isn't represented?
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  246. # [04:24] <@khuey> rillian: something like that
  247. # [04:24] <tbsaunde> is there a reason we don't build gkmedias in media/ ?
  248. # [04:24] <philor> so who's on cc-philor-on-sg-bugs duty this weekend?
  249. # [04:24] <KWierso|Home> not it
  250. # [04:25] <tbsaunde> philor: khuey ?
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  252. # [04:25] <philor> nah, he doesn't trust me, for some reason
  253. # [04:26] <tbsaunde> philor: well its not me since I can't
  254. # [04:27] <darkowlzz> anyone any idea why most of the websites have not yet used html5 input type "search" in their in their search bars? I found only about.com using it.
  255. # [04:28] <@khuey> philor: what bug #s?
  256. # [04:28] <philor> khuey: 860971/860591
  257. # [04:29] <philor> pretty bad odds for a 25-push merge, I'm starting to wonder if we hand out security landing approvals on Friday afternoon, the better to stick them in my merges
  258. # [04:30] <@khuey> philor: done
  259. # [04:30] <philor> thx
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  265. # [04:34] <rillian> tbsaunde: I have no idea. Possibly because gkmedias was just a hack to get windows linking again
  266. # [04:34] <rillian> or do you mean why is the makefile in layout/media?
  267. # [04:35] <rillian> I think that's just cruft no one's bothered to fix
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  492. # [10:13] <Ms2ger> smontagu, even more dir=auto asserts? :)
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  494. # [10:14] <smontagu> Ms2ger: caused by adding more assertions to the code :)
  495. # [10:14] <idee> hi, I just built firefox for first time, can you help me on how to open the code (Solution file) in Visual Studio (VC++) and browse through the code?
  496. # [10:14] <smontagu> the idea is to assert more and use after free less
  497. # [10:15] <Ms2ger> That sounds good ;)
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  499. # [10:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a637a18d57bf - Mike Hommey - Bug 462463 - Remove mddepend.pl. r=ted
  500. # [10:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63d6c868147e - Mike Hommey - Bug 860894 - Fix typelib.py after bug 462463. r=ted
  501. # [10:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/556eb9acc6b5 - Mike Hommey - Bug 462463 - Add missing add_phony_targets.py file. r=me
  502. # [10:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a777fa3031f3 - Mike Hommey - Bug 854103 - Ignore the high bits of returnReg in js_InternalInterpret on x86_64 when it actually holds a bool. r=dvander
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  515. # [10:34] <Ms2ger> heycam, you here now?
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  517. # [10:36] <heycam> hey Ms2ger
  518. # [10:37] <Ms2ger> heycam, is there anything in a spec that backs http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/svg/content/test/test_SVGStringList.xhtml#78 ?
  519. # [10:38] <heycam> Ms2ger, not in SVG 2 at least; the type is DOMString, so null should be stringified
  520. # [10:38] <heycam> Ms2ger, can't see anything in SVG 1.1 either
  521. # [10:39] <Ms2ger> So I fix the test?
  522. # [10:39] <heycam> yes please
  523. # [10:39] <heycam> I guess you came across it when WebIDLifying thei nterface?
  524. # [10:39] <Ms2ger> Yep
  525. # [10:40] <Ms2ger> Thanks
  526. # [10:41] <heycam> np
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  563. # [11:19] <sanket> Hello everyone. I'm looking for John Karahalis.
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  576. # [11:35] <KWierso|Home> !seen openjck
  577. # [11:35] <firebot> openjck was last seen 9 hours, 20 minutes and 34 seconds ago, changing nick to openjck|offline.
  578. # [11:35] <KWierso|Home> sanket: ^
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  585. # [11:43] <KWierso|Home> sanket: looks like openjck|offline is connected in #mdn (but probably not actually there)
  586. # [11:46] <sanket> I'll just connect to #mdn. Thanks, btw.
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  599. # [12:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/141e48a6df7c - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 857820 part.2 Drop <blink> support from editor r=ehsan
  600. # [12:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ce50f99b680 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 857820 part.3 Drop <blink> support from HTML parser r=mrbkap
  601. # [12:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acfaca07e5c9 - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 857820 part.1 Drop blink effect implementation r=dbaron
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  615. # [12:40] <nigelb> YESSSSS
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  652. # [13:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5f730869f6a - James Zhang - Bug 852400 - revert bug 739417 to support touchscreen on tara, r=mwu
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  674. # [14:21] <JosiahOne> How do I do a "make package" on TB?
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  686. # [14:32] <JosiahOne> Got it.
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  911. # [18:17] <philor> KWierso|Home: don't worry, I'm looking for excuses to back him out
  912. # [18:17] <philor> though I didn't notice what I was gunning for until after I started
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  957. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7143c88f59dc - Tom Schuster - Bug 861461 - Resolve this in sandbox.importFunction. r=bholley
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  968. # [18:50] <nhnt11> hi, i was interested in doing a gsoc project for mozilla. am I in the right place?
  969. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> Yes, though perhaps not the right time
  970. # [18:51] <NeilAway> bah, I seem to be hitting MOZ_ASSERT(formats.samples > 0); a lot these days :S
  971. # [18:51] <nhnt11> when should i come back?
  972. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> Weekdays, generally
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  974. # [18:52] <nhnt11> aaah right its sunday i forgot :D
  975. # [18:52] <nhnt11> alright i'll be back
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  995. # [19:20] <firebot> bjacob was last seen 1 day, 18 hours, 3 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying 'jgilbert: i'll check my email tomorrow if you fix the build system part' in #gfx.
  996. # [19:21] <bjacob> wg9s: ?
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  1001. # [19:24] <wg9s> bjacob: I have a new PC i bought. It's driver is blocklisted for webgl, but what i found is that under Linux the conformance test crashes with a 32-bit version of Firefox but not with a 64-bit version. Do we currently have a methodology to differentiate between the 2 when determining what to block?
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  1003. # [19:25] <bjacob> wg9s: in the built-in blacklist, we can easily differentiate. in the downloadable blacklist we cant
  1004. # [19:26] <wg9s> So, should i file a bug, and if so what component and what info should i provide?
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  1007. # [19:27] <bjacob> wg9s: core WebGL, say what particular conformance test crashes on 32bit only, give the corresponding about:support graphics, if possible give a stack trace or crash link
  1008. # [19:27] <wg9s> OK
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  1019. # [19:33] <wg9s> bjacob: Thanks!
  1020. # [19:33] <bjacob> wg9s: np
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  1028. # [19:37] <wg9s> If you don;t see the bug right away, it is because I am kind of busy trying to bisect a Firefox Android crashiness issue.
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  1030. # [19:39] <bjacob> wg9s: it's alright, i am busy with plenty other things :)
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  1032. # [19:41] <wg9s> Had a brief lull while waiticg for a build to finish. maybe I can file a bug during the next build.
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  1040. # [19:48] <caiolima> Hi Guys
  1041. # [19:48] <caiolima> anyone here?
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  1044. # [19:49] <@smaug> if you have questions, just ask
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  1046. # [19:49] <@smaug> someone may answer
  1047. # [19:50] <@smaug> and the answer to "anyone here?" is yes :)
  1048. # [19:50] <caiolima1> Thank you
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  1050. # [19:50] <caiolima1> hahaahah. It's my first time here. I'm testing the instantbird
  1051. # [19:51] <caiolima1> and I was looking for jorgev or Kris Maglione
  1052. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> !seen jorgev
  1053. # [19:51] <firebot> jorgev was last seen 1 day, 17 hours, 54 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying 'fun, fun, fun, fun' in #amo-editors.
  1054. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> Sounds like he's having fun
  1055. # [19:52] <caiolima1> heheheh
  1056. # [19:52] <caiolima1> I'm researching about this ideia for summer of code
  1057. # [19:52] <caiolima1> "Enhanced Customization APIs "
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  1060. # [19:53] <caiolima> little*
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  1062. # [19:54] <caiolima> Is it normal to be disconnected all the time?
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  1065. # [19:56] <fabrice> caiolima: not it's not normal...
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  1068. # [19:58] <caiolima> fabrice: Thank you man. My connection ins't good enough
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  1072. # [20:02] <caiolima> firebot: !seen caiolima
  1073. # [20:03] <firebot> You're right here, duh!
  1074. # [20:03] <VirajSinha> felipe: hey
  1075. # [20:03] <caiolima> firebot: !seen kmaglione
  1076. # [20:03] <firebot> I've never seen a 'kmaglione', sorry.
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  1079. # [20:08] <NeilAway> bjacob: if canvas webgl keeps making my debug build assert and crash, what troubleshooting steps can I take?
  1080. # [20:08] <bjacob> NeilAway: can you get a stack?
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  1083. # [20:11] <NeilAway> bjacob: sure, it's a debug build...
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  1094. # [20:17] <NeilAway> bjacob: well, I can get a stack as far back as JS, but IonMonkey confuses gdb
  1095. # [20:18] <bjacob> NeilAway: that's good enough
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  1102. # [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b156ae54c3e - David Zbarsky - Bug 857884 - Use dom::EventTarget more in content/ and dom/ Part 3 r=Ms2ger
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  1134. # [20:53] <VirajSinha> hello everyone is there a way to contact felipe?
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  1139. # [20:55] <Ms2ger> !seen felipe
  1140. # [20:55] <firebot> felipe was last seen 22 hours, 18 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying 'goodbye' in #developers.
  1141. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> What do we say to that? Not today, apparently
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  1166. # [21:17] <reuben> NeilAway: you pinged me a couple days ago but never responded, I've been curious ever since. what's up? :P
  1167. # [21:18] <NeilAway> bjacob: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2305722
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  1169. # [21:18] <NeilAway> reuben: let me find the bug
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  1171. # [21:19] <bjacob> NeilAway: what assert is failing?
  1172. # [21:20] <NeilAway> reuben: ok, so bug 846929
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  1174. # [21:20] <NeilAway> bjacob: Assertion failure: formats.samples > 0
  1175. # [21:20] <reuben> right
  1176. # [21:21] <bjacob> NeilAway: file bug and CC jgilbert. he's the right person for this
  1177. # [21:21] <bjacob> NeilAway: with all that info + your about:support graphics info and if linux, the output of glxinfo.
  1178. # [21:22] <NeilAway> reuben: why did you add the styles to the theme rather than layout/style/TopLevelImageDocument.css ?
  1179. # [21:22] <NeilAway> bjacob: is "Assertion failure: formats.samples > 0" a suitable summary?
  1180. # [21:22] <NeilAway> bjacob: also which component?
  1181. # [21:22] <bjacob> NeilAway: i suspect that setting webgl.msaa-level=0 will get you rid of the crashes
  1182. # [21:23] <NeilAway> bjacob: hmm, canvas: webgl perhaps?
  1183. # [21:23] <bjacob> NeilAway: it's a suitable summary if you add your driver info in the title, as it's likely a driver issue, and yes webgl
  1184. # [21:23] * reuben blinks
  1185. # [21:23] <reuben> you mean why the guys who implemented the feature did it?
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  1187. # [21:23] <NeilAway> reuben: oh, I'm sorry, I looked at the reporter instead of the assignee
  1188. # [21:23] <reuben> :)
  1189. # [21:24] <NeilAway> reuben: ok, so do you know if he IRCs?
  1190. # [21:24] <reuben> NeilAway: but yea, I don't know. probably because they thought that was the best way to only enable it on Metro and OS X.
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  1192. # [21:25] <reuben> NeilAway: they do, but his handle is… non-trivial. let me see if I can find it. you could also ask jaws who mentored that work IIRC
  1193. # [21:25] <NeilAway> reuben: that's an idea
  1194. # [21:26] <NeilAway> bjacob: when you say "driver info", you mean as listed in about:support?
  1195. # [21:27] <NeilAway> bjacob: which line do you want in the summary, the device ID?
  1196. # [21:27] <bjacob> NeilAway: the WebGL Renderer line
  1197. # [21:28] <bjacob> NeilAway: but tell me what it is here and i'll abridge it for you
  1198. # [21:28] <NeilAway> bjacob: bah
  1199. # [21:28] <reuben> NeilAway: he's we11ington on IRC
  1200. # [21:29] <NeilAway> bjacob: I disabled webgl to open about:support
  1201. # [21:29] <NeilAway> bjacob: if I enable it, about:support crashes
  1202. # [21:29] <bjacob> NeilAway: try webgl.msaa-level=0
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  1204. # [21:30] <NeilAway> bjacob: I don't see that in about:config, do I have to add it?
  1205. # [21:30] <NeilAway> bjacob: oh, you mean gl.msaa-level ?
  1206. # [21:31] <bjacob> NeilAway: oh, i didnt know it was renamed. yes.
  1207. # [21:31] <NeilAway> bjacob: nope, that crashed (is the pref live?)
  1208. # [21:31] <bjacob> NeilAway: really i am almost sure what happens is you're on mesa <= 9.0 which lies about antialiasing support thus triggering this assert of ours
  1209. # [21:32] <bjacob> NeilAway: hm. you likely have to at least open a new window
  1210. # [21:32] <NeilAway> bjacob: restarted, gl.msaa-level still 0, about:support still crashes
  1211. # [21:32] <bjacob> ah
  1212. # [21:32] <bjacob> that's interesting info for the bug
  1213. # [21:32] <bjacob> anyway
  1214. # [21:33] <bjacob> run glxinfo | egrep vendor\|renderer\|version
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  1216. # [21:33] <NeilAway> bjacob: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
  1217. # [21:33] <bjacob> what driver?
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  1219. # [21:33] <bjacob> i.e. renderer
  1220. # [21:34] <NeilAway> bjacob: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780
  1221. # [21:34] <bjacob> ok so say:
  1222. # [21:34] <bjacob> Mesa 8.0.4, radeon driver
  1223. # [21:34] <bjacob> gtg
  1224. # [21:34] <NeilAway> bjacob: ok ta
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  1227. # [21:39] <Luke_1> Hi guys, great job on fixing bug 835064 on Firefox 20. Can this report be marked 'fixed' now?
  1228. # [21:41] <mcsmurf> Luke_1: you can resolve the bug yourself, click on resolved worksforme
  1229. # [21:42] <mcsmurf> and add a comment that you can no longer reproduce with FF 20
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  1231. # [21:43] <mcsmurf> "worksforme" means: Bug report is no longer "valid"/bug is not visible anymore
  1232. # [21:43] <mcsmurf> you choose "fixed" when you know which bug/patch fixed a bug
  1233. # [21:43] <mcsmurf> (at least this is how I handle this)
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  1242. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/261d6997d1d1 - rsx11m - Bug 861633: Fix typo in new TLS sync preferences introduced with bug 733642, r=bsmith
  1243. # [21:59] <Luke_1> Thanks :) btw does anyone know if it's possible to detect whether a canvas is using Azure, and whether or not it is backed by Cairo/Direct2d/etc, from nonprivileged JS?
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  1270. # [22:48] <Luke_1> Am I correct in assuming it's not possible without some sort of hack, to check if using Cairo/direct2d for canvas, from a page's javascript?
  1271. # [22:48] <mcsmurf> no idea..
  1272. # [22:49] <mcsmurf> but is it something a website needs to know?
  1273. # [22:49] <Unfocused> If it were possible, it'd be a bug
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  1281. # [22:56] <Luke_1> That's what I thought, but it would be nice, to check and warn if a certain configuration is known to trigger canvas bug in older Firefox.
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  1302. # [23:30] <Luke_1> Congrats on the Firefox 20 for Android - its working well even on arm6. I was wondering why there was only a Google-play link for downloading it though, no FDroid link or apk link?
  1303. # [23:31] <bjacob> Luke_1: there is definitely apk's somewhere on ftp.mozilla.org
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  1307. # [23:36] <Luke_1> Yeah, I found it there, but the 'download Android Firefox' pages don't link to it... why? I really like Firefox, it's a shame non-Google users have to search forums for the link https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases/20.0/
  1308. # [23:37] <bjacob> Luke_1: that sounds like a valid thing to file a bug about
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  1313. # [23:45] <Luke_1> It's been reported: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686489
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