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- # [00:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b48e4bc0b1f1 - David Zbarsky - Bug 846995 Part 1: Fix all the files that reference SVGAnimatedTransformList r=jwatt
- # [00:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46906005efc8 - David Zbarsky - Bug 846995 Part 3: Rename DOMSVGAnimatedTransformList and kill nsISupports r=jwatt
- # [00:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/218392354af1 - David Zbarsky - Bug 846995 Part 2: Rename SVGAnimatedTransformList to nsSVGAnimatedTransformList r=jwatt
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- # [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d31055321344 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 125082 - use GetChildren in inDOMUtils and inDeepTreeWalker to get native anonymous content, too. r=roc
- # [01:05] <@roc> yay
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- # [01:28] <aja> Unfocused: dunno what change fixed it, but the two probs i reported with UX work just fine on latest UX nightly
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- # [01:28] <Unfocused> aja: huh
- # [01:28] <Unfocused> ok, thanks
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- # [01:28] <Unfocused> may as well close those two bugs then, as i wasn't able to reproduce them
- # [01:29] <aja> Unfocused: somehow suspect an issue with parsing command line arguments
- # [01:29] <Unfocused> how so?
- # [01:30] <aja> Unfocused: was always launching with shortcut "C:\Program Files (x86)\ux\firefox\firefox.exe" -no-remote -profile "C:\mozprof\ux"
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- # [01:31] <Unfocused> wouldn't expect that to matter. when using my dev profile, that's what i use too (well, -P, but close enough)
- # [01:31] <aja> Unfocused: just tried w/o and shortcut, and was ok, so retried using shortcut again and all was fine too
- # [01:31] <aja> s/and/any/
- # [01:32] <philor> hmm, what part of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/tests/mochitest/chrome/test_DOMWindowCreated.xul is the "crash the Dock on 10.7" step?
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- # [01:37] * heycam sighs as he loses his browser session by accidentally quitting immediately after a restart, before clicking "restore last session"
- # [01:38] <heycam> on the bright side, my todo-list-managed-by-open-browser-tabs is now smaller
- # [01:38] <Unfocused> heycam: manually load about:sessionrestore
- # [01:39] <Unfocused> (sometimes that works)
- # [01:39] <heycam> Unfocused, the list box there is empty unfortunately
- # [01:39] <heycam> I need to go two sessions back, I guess
- # [01:39] <Unfocused> :\
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- # [01:40] <aja> Unfocused: you aware of all the XUL box warnings in error console?
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- # [01:41] <aja> or is that just me, too? :/
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- # [01:45] <Unfocused> yea
- # [01:45] <@roc> heycam: you can get your session bak
- # [01:45] <Unfocused> that's expected, if distracted
- # [01:45] <@roc> back
- # [01:45] <Unfocused> er, distracting
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- # [01:45] <heycam> roc, oh yes?
- # [01:45] <@roc> heycam: your profile contains sessionstore.bak or something like that
- # [01:45] <@roc> I had this happen to me just recently
- # [01:46] <KWierso|Home> switch .bak for .js while firefox is shut down, restart firefox and you should be good to go
- # [01:46] <heycam> roc, that looks promising!
- # [01:48] <heycam> oddly my sessionstore.js is nearly the same size as my sessionstore.bak
- # [01:48] <heycam> both around 118KB
- # [01:48] <KWierso|Home> heycam: make a copy of each and stick it elsewhere
- # [01:48] <KWierso|Home> push comes to shove, you can extract the URLs from the file's contents manually :)
- # [01:48] <heycam> KWierso|Home, yep, looks like a nice sensible format :)
- # [01:50] <KWierso|Home> the top-most of each [tabs]'s [entries] is that tab's most recent URL
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- # [01:54] <heycam> oh, turns out both files are too recent (they've just got my pinned tabs in them)
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- # [01:54] <heycam> surprised how large the session files are for a just-started-up session with my four pinned tabs
- # [01:55] <nrc> How do I find out which revisions to m-c became a certain nightly?
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- # [01:55] <heycam> oh well, a bit of forced cleaning up of my hundreds of derelict tabs isn't all bad
- # [01:55] <tbsaunde> nrc: about:buildconfig is the easy way
- # [01:55] <nrc> tbsaunde: thanks!
- # [01:55] <KWierso|Home> heycam: sessionstore stores each tab's full session history
- # [01:55] <heycam> nrc, and if you don't have the nightly running, in the ftp.mozilla.org directory for the nightlies you there's a txt file with the m-c revision
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- # [01:56] <KWierso|Home> so your pinned tabs could probably go back quite a way
- # [01:56] <heycam> KWierso|Home, ah ok
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- # [01:56] <heycam> (lots of plus.google.com urls… just due to my google calendar pinned tab)
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- # [02:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9854f6db382b - Jim Blandy - Bug 857715: In testing/xpcshell/head.js, use 'uneval' to quote values passed to the child process. r=ted
- # [02:48] <jaws> is there an easy way to create a link to the New Bug form on bugzilla with some of the form elements already selected?
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- # [02:53] <KWierso|Home> jaws: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=XXX&component=YYY
- # [02:54] <KWierso|Home> etc, etc
- # [02:55] <KWierso|Home> using these names, iirc: https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Bugzilla:REST_API:Objects&oldid=537941#Bug
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- # [03:00] <jaws> KWierso|Home: thanks!
- # [03:02] <KWierso|Home> jaws: some of the names don't seem to work, but the one listed in "Other Names" does
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- # [03:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/32f6b90836a6 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 861127, refactor ContentClientRemote::CreateBuffer. r=Bas
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- # [03:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7694941e13d8 - Yura Zenevich - Bug 861264 - Add support for options argument for OS.File.read method. r=Yoric
- # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a03f74d92509 - Colby Russell - Bug 861557 - nsIClassInfo.idl references non-existent nsIClassInfo.h. r=jlebar
- # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe71fc5d8267 - Ralph Giles - Bug 860338 - Remove MOZ_WEBVTT. r=khuey, r=ted
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- # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11366920290d - Valentin Gosu - Bug 843865 - Implement Networking Dashboard using webidl. r=bz
- # [03:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42a879409f18 - Raymond Lee - Bug 852032 - Create a PlacesBackups.jsm. r=mak
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- # [03:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d031f4a22f5 - Vincent Chang - Bug 854302 - [Buri][WIFI]Cann't disconnect WIFI when connect AP use WPS. r=mrbkap
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- # [03:41] <darkowlzz> hi, I am trying to add search plugin from web pages by following this https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Adding_search_engines_from_web_pages . Can anyone tell me where in mozilla-central src code should I put the search engine detection code so that every time a page loads, the engine is detected by FF?
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- # [04:58] <abr> philor: "CLOSED. See the Inbound tree rules before pushing." -- I think it's the first time I've seen that. Is the closure intentional? None of the pushes on TBPL look particularly broken...
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- # [05:05] <abr> philor / RyanVM: Or is the idea that *all* patches land on birch this week, regardless of whether they're B2G? If that's the case, the MOTD should probably be made much clearer.
- # [05:05] <RyanVM> no
- # [05:06] <RyanVM> he closed it accidentally when updating the MOTD is my guess
- # [05:06] <philor> shit, yeah
- # [05:06] <abr> Okay, just making sure. Thanks.
- # [05:07] <philor> I never use the per-tree page on treestatus, so it surprises me every time that I do that
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- # [05:27] <njn> what's the Mozilla way to sleep for a fraction of a second? I'm currently using usleep(), but I don't think that's portable
- # [05:27] <njn> PR_Sleep, maybe
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- # [05:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2b156ae54c3e - David Zbarsky - Bug 857884 - Use dom::EventTarget more in content/ and dom/ Part 3 r=Ms2ger
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- # [05:39] <njn> PR_Sleep appears to do the trick
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- # [05:42] <njn> now I need the Mozilla equivalents of pthread_{create,cancel}
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- # [05:44] <tbsaunde> njn: you probably want to look at nsIThread
- # [05:45] <njn> tbsaunde: that doesn't really match what I want
- # [05:45] <njn> AFAICT
- # [05:45] <njn> tbsaunde: I'm starting up a thread that does something, sleeps, does something, sleeps, etc.
- # [05:45] <njn> nsIThread didn't seem to match that
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- # [05:47] <njn> tbsaunde: PR_CreateThread looks reasonable
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- # [05:48] <njn> tbsaunde: though there's no PR_CancelThread, which I need...
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- # [05:49] <tbsaunde> njn: well I think you could do that in a sort of hacky way by having a nsIThread where the only runnable dispatched to it sleeps does whatever and then fires another runnable of the same type at the thread
- # [05:50] <njn> tbsaunde: yeah, but why use force a square peg into a round hole?
- # [05:50] <tbsaunde> but that is gross, and the only alternative I know of is prthreads
- # [05:51] <tbsaunde> njn: because you don't want to write reasonable threading stuff for gecko?
- # [05:51] <njn> tbsaunde: I don't understand
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- # [06:11] <chandravadans> Hi! I'm applying for the Thunderbird project in gsoc this year. I know c++ quite well, but I'm kinda new to open source development. Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanx!
- # [06:11] <chandravadans> (btw I've downloaded and built Thunderbird from source already)
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- # [06:17] <mjrosenb> chandravadans: there is a bug-filing and review process
- # [06:17] <mjrosenb> chandravadans: also, did you download a tarball, or check out the mercurial repository?
- # [06:18] <chandravadans> mjrosenb: Yes, I did checkout the mercurial repository, its building as I speak
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- # [06:19] <chandravadans> I've gone through the "Simple Thunderbird Build" page on the MDN
- # [06:19] <chandravadans> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Thunderbird_build
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- # [06:21] <jcranmer> njn, tbsaunde: sounds like we need a MFBT threads library! :-P
- # [06:21] <mjrosenb> chandravadans: can't hurt to read this as well: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Contributing_patches
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- # [06:39] <cv> jcranmer: I see that you're the mentor for the mbox to maildir conversion. I'm really interested in taking up this project in GSOC and do have decent C++ skills. I've downloaded and built Thunderbird, but from there, I'm mostly clueless. Could you throw some light on how to get started?
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- # [06:41] <jcranmer> cv: Start by looking over https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856087
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- # [06:43] <cv> okay, thanx!
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- # [07:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a418f831f2c - Jonathan Watt - Bug 860701 - Check for error in nsRangeFrame::GetValueAtEventPoint so that we don't change the value of <input type=range> when we can't convert an event to a valid
- # [07:03] <firebot> point. r=me
- # [07:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b10100b29f19 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 859139 - Allow <input type=range> to keep its native styling when authors set its padding. r=mounir
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- # [08:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b0cda3057df - Matt Woodrow - Bug 859526 - Null check parent frames when wrapping preserve-3d display lists. r=roc
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- # [09:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1077b98a75f1 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 843917 - Don't call InvalidateBounds() in nsSVGTextFrame2; leave invalidation to DLBI. r=jwatt
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- # [09:17] <darkowlzz> hi, I am trying to add search plugin from web pages by following this https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Adding_search_engines_from_web_pages . Can anyone tell me where in mozilla-central src code should I put the search engine detection code so that every time a page loads, the engine is detected by FF?
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- # [09:32] <aja> darkowlzz: think it already detects opensearch.org format
- # [09:33] <mjrosenb> !seen ehsan
- # [09:33] <firebot> ehsan was last seen 2 days, 11 hours, 55 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying 'padenot: http://paul.cx/public/panner.html is currently broken, right?' in #media.
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- # [09:33] <mjrosenb> uh-oh.
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- # [09:34] <darkowlzz> aja, yeah, it auto detects opensearch format, but look at this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335448
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- # [09:35] <darkowlzz> here, the search engine in web page has to be detected and search plugin is to be generated on the fly
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- # [09:36] <darkowlzz> so, I am looking for the code which parses the web page for the 1st time it requests
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- # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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- # [09:44] <mjrosenb> so the intranet page used to have a bunch of sample interview questions on it... is this no longer the case?
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- # [09:45] <aja> darkowlzz: you might start here - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=Sherlock
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- # [09:47] <darkowlzz> okay, so through Sherlock and OpenSearch's implementation, we can find out the right place
- # [09:47] <darkowlzz> aja, thanks :)
- # [09:47] <aja> np
- # [09:47] <aja> good luck
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- # [10:05] <glazou> bonjour
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- # [10:06] <glandium> mjrosenb: last time i looked, which was a while ago, there were sample interview questions for releng
- # [10:07] <glandium> mjrosenb: and nothing else
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- # [10:08] <Ms2ger> heycam, want me to make smaug review the CC stuff? :)
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- # [10:09] <heycam> Ms2ger, yes that's fine. but if you know where I can learn about it for the future...
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- # [10:09] <heycam> Ms2ger, also I'm not technically an SVG peer, but whatever :)
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- # [10:10] <heycam> (where whatever = "r=me on the rest of the patch")
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- # [10:11] <Ms2ger> heycam, I'm not sure if there's any good documentation for CC stuff, unfortunately
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- # [10:11] <heycam> ah
- # [10:11] <nrc> heycam: you're not an SVG peer? But isn't it basically all your code and your specs?
- # [10:11] <heycam> lol
- # [10:12] <mjrosenb> glandium: blast. I distinctly remember seeing a c++ question.
- # [10:12] <heycam> no only some of the files are mostly written by me :)
- # [10:12] <heycam> s/some/a couple/
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- # [10:12] <Ms2ger> s/a couple/one/? ;)
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- # [10:13] <heycam> Ms2ger, there's a cpp *and* an h file you know :)
- # [10:13] <Ms2ger> Heh
- # [10:13] <glob> heh
- # [10:13] <nrc> mjrosenb: there is a history function so you can still find the questions, but I don't know how, exactly
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- # [10:15] <mjrosenb> nrc: i've poked at the history, but that page has a lot of history.
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- # [10:15] <nrc> ah sucks, I do remember there being _a lot_ of questions some where
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- # [10:16] <Ms2ger> Good morning, edmorley
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- # [10:23] <glandium> mjrosenb: if you find something, i'm interested :)
- # [10:23] <gaston> anyone knows the rationale for not showing the 'bX' in version in beta branch ?
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- # [10:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf860d3271ab - Chris Lord - Bug 856932 - Fix async scrolling of auto-positioned fixed position elements. r=nrc
- # [10:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abc416eac56f - Chris Lord - Bug 856932 - Fix fixed margins on position:fixed hierarchies. r=roc
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- # [10:31] <@roc> woo
- # [10:31] <@roc> padenot: ping
- # [10:32] <padenot> roc: pong
- # [10:32] <@roc> meeting?
- # [10:32] <padenot> ok
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- # [10:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2449e6144d1 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 860104 - Disable another click test, a=test-only
- # [10:39] <gaston> anyone knows if prefs from browser/app/profile/firefox.js 'overrides' prefs from other files ?
- # [10:39] <edmorley> gaston: so that it matches release as closely as possible (they've had instances in the past where sites using UA sniffing treated a version differently once out of beta)
- # [10:39] <gaston> edmorley: right, makes sense...
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- # [10:41] <Ms2ger> In other news, UA sniffing sucks
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- # [10:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2206d092a04 - Jonathan Griffin - Backed out changeset c2449e6144d1 (wrong bug #)
- # [10:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82f8115af316 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 838607 - Disable another click test, a=test-only
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- # [10:47] <Yoric> What exactly is browser/base/content supposed to contain?
- # [10:48] <Yoric> I am currently reviewing a patch that adds a .js to that directory and I realize that I have no clue.
- # [10:48] <glazou> Yoric browesr main UI
- # [10:48] <glazou> browser even
- # [10:49] <Yoric> thanks
- # [10:49] <glazou> it's the host for browser.xul
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- # [10:50] <Yoric> And what is the recommended manner for adding stuff to the UI in a modular manner?
- # [10:50] <Yoric> The patch I am reviewing adds a new .js and then #includes it from browser.js
- # [10:50] <Yoric> Sorry, from content.js
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- # [10:51] <Yoric> (which, btw, is only 30loc)
- # [10:52] <glazou> Yoric: bug #?
- # [10:52] <Unfocused> Yoric: want me to have a look?
- # [10:52] <smontagu> so the spec says "The dir IDL attribute on Document objects must reflect the dir content attribute of the html element, if any, limited to only known values."
- # [10:52] <Yoric> bug 861409
- # [10:52] <Yoric> Sure.
- # [10:52] <Ms2ger> smontagu, yes?
- # [10:52] <Yoric> That would be nice.
- # [10:53] <glazou> hey Unfocused, the milky way photo your retweeted was amazing
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- # [10:53] <smontagu> and it's clear to me that if you have "html dir="foopy" and you do |foo = document.dir|, then foo is empty
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- # [10:53] <Unfocused> glazou: yea :) don't know who took it, but it was taken in the city i live in
- # [10:53] <smontagu> but what if you do |document.dir = "foopy"|?
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- # [10:54] <Ms2ger> "on setting, the content attribute must be set to the specified new value."
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- # [10:54] <Ms2ger> Thus, it should simply set the attribute to "foopy"
- # [10:54] <smontagu> ah, that's following the link from "limited to only known values"
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- # [10:54] <smontagu> got it
- # [10:54] <Ms2ger> Yep
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- # [10:55] <Ms2ger> Either that or the link from "reflect" and look for "limited to only known values" there
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- # [10:58] <Unfocused> Yoric: yea, that seems reasonable
- # [10:58] <Yoric> Unfocused: thanks
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- # [11:00] <Ms2ger> Layout: Text?
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- # [11:02] <glazou> Unfocused: superb
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- # [11:04] <smontagu> Ms2ger: IIRC there used to be a "bidi" component, and it got mass merged with layout: text
- # [11:05] <Ms2ger> smontagu, I hope you're using testharness.js and submitting them to the test suite, btw ;)
- # [11:05] <smontagu> why did I open my big mouth :)
- # [11:05] <Ms2ger> :D
- # [11:06] <Ms2ger> That would also make it easier to check if the spec is correct.... ;)
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- # [11:19] <glazou> anyone here building with VC 2008?
- # [11:19] <mcsmurf> Bug 857820 killed <blink>
- # [11:19] <mcsmurf> *sigh* :(
- # [11:19] <glazou> mcsmurf:yep
- # [11:20] <Ms2ger> Why would you remove an element invented after a night of drinking?
- # [11:20] <smontagu> Ms2ger: so this should display "document.dir = 'rtl'", correct?
- # [11:20] <smontagu> data:text/html,<html dir="rtl"><p>Hi!</p><script>alert("document.dir = '" + document.dir + "'");</script>
- # [11:20] <mcsmurf> you can't just remove an easter egg
- # [11:20] <mcsmurf> (well, looks like you can after all)
- # [11:21] <smontagu> blink has been killed before and risen from the dead
- # [11:21] <Ms2ger> smontagu, correct (per spec)
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- # [11:32] <gaston> hm so telemetry is superseded by FHR ? i dont see the option for telemetry anymore in the prefs ui
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- # [11:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5da461e63f72 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 843793 - Throw specific errors when iframe is crashed or hung, r=mdas
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- # [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53c2e7b9753b - Cameron McCormack - Bug 843917 - Test.
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- # [12:50] <edmorley> gaston: see both in my nightly prefs
- # [12:50] <edmorley> gaston: advanced -> data choices
- # [12:51] <gaston> hm i only have fhr in 21beta
- # [12:51] <gaston> and same in nightly
- # [12:51] <gaston> so telemetry might be disabled/NPOTB on OpenBSD
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- # [13:04] <edmorley> wiki.m.o appears busted :-(
- # [13:04] <edmorley> eg https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Meetings
- # [13:05] <Callek> ugh
- # [13:06] <Callek> edmorley: I'll rouse the approp people
- # [13:07] <Standard8> other pages appear fine
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- # [13:10] <edmorley> Callek: thank you
- # [13:10] <AryehGregor> I guess that makes sense -- some malloc()s might be large.
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- # [13:11] <Callek> edmorley: just got asked to file a bug, you up for that tediousness or shall I :-)
- # [13:11] <edmorley> I will, what component?
- # [13:11] <edmorley> IT or wiki.m.o?
- # [13:11] <Callek> edmorley: lets go with "mozilla.org::Server Operations::WebOperations" for now
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- # [13:14] <AryehGregor> Okay.
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- # [13:37] <jlebar> We don't support min-height: -moz-fill-available?
- # [13:38] <jlebar> Is there something I can do in chrome CSS to get a similar result?
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- # [13:48] <glandium> http://www.joachim-reichel.de/software/gppfs/ pretty awesome
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- # [13:53] <VirajSinha> hello everyone
- # [13:54] <VirajSinha> i am trying to set up my windows machine for build
- # [13:54] <VirajSinha> i looked at it and installed and ran mozbuild
- # [13:54] <VirajSinha> now it is written to add the relevant dlls
- # [13:55] <VirajSinha> which all dlls does that refer to add to path variable
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- # [13:56] <jesup> glandium: nice find
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- # [13:57] <glandium> jesup: i can't make it work, though :-/
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- # [14:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd17606091d2 - Brian Hackett - Bug 845596 - Keep track of free variables during syntax parsing, r=jorendorff.
- # [14:03] <jesup> bummer
- # [14:03] <jesup> glandium: maybe poke the author to help
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- # [14:11] <glandium> jchen|away: ^
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- # [14:14] <srishti> Hi I am interested in working on bug #641098 ,it is related to meta refresh redirecting to the wrong page ,does anyone have ? about the loading principal
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- # [14:15] <darkowlzz> anyone experienced with consoleListener and logMessage?
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- # [14:17] <@roc> hmm ... brand new feature ... mochitests pass first time. Very suspicious
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- # [14:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/deab88ac216a - Jonathan Kew - bug 861403 - fix mixing of device pixels with global display pixels in MoveClient and ResizeClient calculations. r=roc
- # [14:18] <Ms2ger> roc, your tests are insufficient :)
- # [14:19] <Ms2ger> roc, (are you in your usual timezone?)
- # [14:19] <@roc> yes
- # [14:19] <jfkthame> roc doesn't believe in sleep
- # [14:19] <@roc> It's only just after midnight
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- # [14:20] <@roc> I can sleep now and still get 8 hours before leaving the house with my kids
- # [14:20] <@roc> but ... I won't
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- # [14:20] <Ms2ger> That's the spirit :)
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- # [14:28] <Ms2ger> Anyone heard of the language Eff, btw?
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- # [14:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/644f16c3f87c - Jonathan Watt - Bug 861805 - Stop layers from snapping transforms for SVG content. r=roc
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- # [14:31] <@roc> Ms2ger: no, but I used to know Andrej Bauer quite well
- # [14:34] <@roc> we arrived in the same year at the CMU PhD program and graduated at about the same time too
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- # [14:34] * Ms2ger has a headache now
- # [14:35] <Ms2ger> I won't claim a causal relationship just yet
- # [14:36] <srishti> bz ,in bug #641098 ,can you tell me more about the loading principal ,and what is expected to fix this bug?
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- # [14:38] <@roc> looks cool but we won't be writing a browser in it anytime soon
- # [14:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/626f981f90e6 - Honza Bambas - Bug 850362 - reintroduce bug 842852 - localStorage optimizations, r=mak77
- # [14:38] <gfritzsche> bent: ping
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- # [14:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/216376e201d5 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 854088. r=rstrong, a=bajaj
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- # [14:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e93879f1adb - Raymond Lee - Bug 855190 - Use new async getCharsetForURI in /toolkit/components/places/tests/unit/test_bookmarks_json.js. r=mak
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- # [14:50] <Ms2ger> roc, there are a lot of languages we're not writing browsers in ;)
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- # [14:53] <Ms2ger> Yo dawg
- # [14:53] <@roc> sleep
- # [14:53] <RyanVM> sweet dreams
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- # [15:28] <ttaubert> Ms2ger: no, not yet. I'm still bisecting
- # [15:28] <ttaubert> takes ages
- # [15:28] <darkowlzz> yzen, hi, do you still remember about the bug I was working on which uses consoleListener?
- # [15:28] <Ms2ger> ttaubert, great, thanks
- # [15:28] <yzen> darkowlzz: do you have a number by any chance ?
- # [15:29] <darkowlzz> yzen, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827805
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- # [15:32] <yzen> darkowlzz: yep now I remember, was it the test that you had an issue with ?
- # [15:32] <darkowlzz> yzen, yes
- # [15:32] <darkowlzz> I learnt how to work with consoleListener, to some extent, thanks to j dm
- # [15:32] <darkowlzz> now, I think the promises are causing problem
- # [15:32] <darkowlzz> yzen, can you help me in making the promises proper by using task
- # [15:33] <darkowlzz> yzen, here is the current code, without using task, www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2307624
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- # [15:34] <darkowlzz> from some mochi tests, I found that using yield takes care of promises
- # [15:34] <yzen> darkowlzz: yep, i think i see at least one thing: if you are using Task.spawn, you do not need to use promises as you are using right now, you can just use it as a generator
- # [15:34] <darkowlzz> but I am not sure about the right way of doing it
- # [15:34] <yzen> darkowlzz: e.g. instead of promise.then(…) just do yield OS.File.stat(…) and you can use the return value as if the operation was synchronous
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- # [15:35] <darkowlzz> ah! sounds easy and good. Lemme try it
- # [15:35] <yzen> darkowlzz: so you can extract what you have in the callback and put it inline, right after that yield statement
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- # [15:36] <darkowlzz> yzen, in the paste, if I store the yield value in d, d becomes the info, right?
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- # [15:37] <darkowlzz> and d.creationDate should do the required job
- # [15:39] <yzen> darkowlzz: yes that's right
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- # [15:40] <darkowlzz> yzen, so do_test_pending is no longer required?
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- # [15:41] <darkowlzz> no wait for promise to complete
- # [15:41] <yzen> darkowlzz: i believe it still is
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- # [15:43] <darkowlzz> yzen, yes, it is required
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- # [15:57] <armenzg> jimm: pong
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- # [15:58] <jimm> armenzg: hey, just checking in to see if you'll have any time for bug 847442 this week.
- # [15:58] <jimm> be nice to get those running on cedar or maybe even inbound/mc hidden.
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- # [15:58] <armenzg> jimm: I should be able to do this week
- # [15:59] <jimm> sweet, good to hear.
- # [15:59] <armenzg> I have got derailed the last 2-3 days with b2g work week preparation
- # [15:59] <armenzg> well
- # [15:59] <armenzg> jimm: one change depends on IT being able to deploy that change across the bpard
- # [15:59] <armenzg> I will do my testing to be sure that nothing breaks
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- # [15:59] <armenzg> so I can give them time to do it
- # [16:00] <jimm> sounds good.
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- # [16:00] <jimm> thx!
- # [16:00] <armenzg> you're welcome!
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- # [16:03] <darkowlzz> yzen, it seems that OS.File.stat is working (retrieved data can be seen in the logs) but when I try printing the variable in which it is stored or even d.size, the test hangs
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- # [16:03] <darkowlzz> d.creationDate gives unknown
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- # [16:05] <darkowlzz> yzen, I am on a linux box, and creationDate field doesn't exists in it. So in that case, the test doesn't hangs, but for attributes like isDir, size, it hangs. Any idea?
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- # [16:07] <yzen> darkowlzz: and you call do_test_finished as well right ? do you have a pastie of your current state ?
- # [16:08] <darkowlzz> oops!! :) I commented that out too
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- # [16:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d2790a22f3d - Patrick McManus - bug 819734 - Token Bucket for Network Bursts part 2/2 [windows timers] r=honzab
- # [16:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0aab2bb76b45 - Patrick McManus - bug 819734 - Token Bucket for Network Requests [a/b test] r=honzab
- # [16:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecf37b2b9a96 - Patrick McManus - bug 819734 - Token Bucket for Network Bursts part 1/2 [base] r=honzab
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- # [16:10] <darkowlzz> yzen, it's undefined now
- # [16:10] <darkowlzz> thanks, brb
- # [16:10] <yzen> darkowlzz: np )
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- # [16:23] <@smaug> RyanVM: thanks for landing a patch to Aurora! (silly me tried to land it again and wondered why the patch doesn't apply)
- # [16:23] <RyanVM> heh
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- # [16:26] <gcp> we have 3 copies of gtest in the source tree
- # [16:26] <gcp> ./media/webrtc/trunk/testing/gtest/include/gtest/internal/gtest-port.h
- # [16:26] <gcp> ./ipc/chromium/src/testing/gtest/include/gtest/internal/gtest-port.h
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- # [16:27] <gcp> Clearly Google Chrome is to blame.
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- # [16:27] <Ms2ger> I suspect the one in ipc/ is dead
- # [16:28] <gcp> the one in testing may be too
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- # [16:29] <edmorley> ted: ^
- # [16:29] <@ted> i think the testing one is the legit one nowadays
- # [16:29] <Ms2ger> No, the one in testing is new
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- # [16:29] <@ted> although we probably have a few tests using the webrtc one
- # [16:30] <@ted> the chromium one could probably just be rm'ed
- # [16:30] <Ms2ger> And I think it may be used by one or two tests
- # [16:30] * @ted was careful to not import gtest in breakpad
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- # [16:34] <csmedberg> davidb: who ought to own bug 843657?
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- # [16:35] <jlebar> NeilAway: I don't know, so I'm presuming the regular one.
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- # [16:36] <@dbaron> bz, do you happen to remember what we do to make XUL documents not reflow (or run frame construction??) until onload?
- # [16:36] <NeilAway> jlebar: well, are you working with a span, an inline-block, a div, a float, a flexbox or a xul box?
- # [16:36] <jchen> glandium: looks like that script uses some python scripts that come with gdb but are not included in jimdb. on my system those same scripts are at /usr/share/gdb/python/gdb, so if i run, 'cp -R /usr/share/gdb/python/gdb jimdb/utils/python/' then it seems to work
- # [16:36] <jlebar> NeilAway: Ah. inline-block.
- # [16:36] <@dbaron> bz, Andreas thinks we should do the same for packaged apps on the phone.
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- # [16:36] <@dbaron> bz, I'm also wondering what sort of compatibility risks would result (e.g., if script is running...)
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- # [16:38] <NeilAway> jlebar: so, you want an inline block that wraps its content except is at least a certain amount of height?
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- # [16:39] <NeilAway> jlebar: or am I missing something?
- # [16:39] <jlebar> NeilAway: I want an inline block whose height matches the height of the tallest inline block in the line.
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- # [16:39] <RattyAway> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/261d6997d1d1/toolkit/components/satchel/nsIFormHistory.idl#l49
- # [16:39] <RattyAway> dolske: I think this comment is wrong. q.v. http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/toolkit/components/satchel/nsFormHistory.js#307
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- # [16:40] <NeilAway> jlebar: sounds like a table. or a flexbox. or a xul box. but not an inline block, sorry.
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- # [16:41] <jlebar> NeilAway: Well, I tried.
- # [16:41] <jlebar> Maybe flexbox will work.
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- # [16:41] <mkaply> How do I get something in the Firefox 21 release notes?
- # [16:41] <gcp> ted: yeah, I was trying to fix clone in the wrong one for to long
- # [16:41] <@ted> d'oh
- # [16:41] <jlebar> mkaply: did you try googling that?
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- # [16:41] <@ted> we should rm the webrtc one and fix the tests using it to use the testing/ one
- # [16:41] <Ms2ger> mkaply, relnote-firefox flag?
- # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb95b49e094c - Hannes Verschore - Bug 861857: TI: Fix testing the intersection between two types, r=jandem
- # [16:42] <mkaply> jlebar: No. Figured this was easier :0
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- # [16:44] <darkowlzz> yzen, ping! :)
- # [16:45] <jesup> ted: the code in media/webrtc/signaling/test uses gtest; see Makefile.in there for replacing the location
- # [16:45] <@ted> yeah, should be fixable
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- # [16:46] <yzen> darkowlzz: pong
- # [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa1a9fa71db4 - Julian Seward - Bug 861141 - Connect Breakpad on Android to faulty.lib's mmap interface. r=glandium,ted
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- # [16:47] <darkowlzz> yzen, here is the current code
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- # [16:47] <darkowlzz> I get undefined objects on yield
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- # [16:48] <darkowlzz> but OS.File.stat works fine, file info are shown properly on xpcshell logs
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- # [16:50] <yzen> darkowlzz: i dont see any links here in the chat for some reason they are being stripped
- # [16:50] <darkowlzz> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2307974
- # [16:50] <darkowlzz> yzen, ^
- # [16:50] <darkowlzz> sorry
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- # [17:03] <darkowlzz> yzen, it's an object object, which I suspect has something to do with promise
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- # [17:06] <jlebar> mounir: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820686
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- # [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4fe6ac7475b - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861269 - GC: Continuing the rooting of XPConnect - Root nsXPConnect.cpp r=bholley
- # [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/605d892d2e51 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861269 - GC: Continuing the rooting of XPConnect - Root XPCJSID.cpp r=bholley
- # [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0c70f3f73ef - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861269 - GC: Continuing the rooting of XPConnect - Convert id_ to idArg style arguments r=bholley
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- # [17:07] <darkowlzz> yzen, getOwnPropertyNames also doesn't help, still undefined
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- # [17:09] <yzen> darkowlzz: hmm. *thinking
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- # [17:11] <dholbert> mounir, pong
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- # [17:12] <mounir> dholbert: about bug 860913, why not fixing MOZ_NOT_REACHED to work whithout an argument in MSVC
- # [17:12] <mounir> the same way MOZ_ASSERT is working
- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, so -- sure, we could do that
- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, but
- # [17:13] <mounir> I mean, regardless of the correctness of the usage
- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, all the existing usages are wrong, so it's better to just fix them
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- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, plus, there's no harm in adding an argument, in the places where I'm keeping it
- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, and actually MOZ_ASSERT requires an argument, IIRC
- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, s/argument/message/
- # [17:13] <dholbert> mounir, it's MOZ_CRASH that doesn't
- # [17:14] <dholbert> (which is why I initially lazily switched it to MOZ_CRASH)
- # [17:14] <dholbert> (good catch on that not being what we want, though)
- # [17:14] <mounir> dholbert: MOZ_ASSERT has an optional argument
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- # [17:14] <dholbert> really? ok
- # [17:14] <dholbert> I wasn't sure
- # [17:14] <dholbert> anyway
- # [17:15] <@ted> note that MOZ_CRASH is always a crash, MOZ_ASSERT compiles away in release builds
- # [17:15] <dholbert> (yup, that's why MOZ_CRASH was wrong for this use case)
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- # [17:15] <dholbert> mounir, MOZ_NOT_REACHED should really be rarely used
- # [17:15] <mounir> i will look at the changes regardless of this
- # [17:15] <dholbert> mounir, ok
- # [17:15] <mounir> dholbert: I think we could use MOZ_NOT_REACHED in some cases
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- # [17:16] <dholbert> mounir, in the cases in this bug where it's actually provably unreachable, the compiler already knows it's unreachable, and there's no need for it anyway.
- # [17:16] <dholbert> mounir, e.g. after a switch statement with 'return foo' in every case and with a default case
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- # [17:18] <dholbert> mounir, actually there was one case where it sort of made sense, where we checked "if (mType == date or time) { return; } handle date & return for it; handle time & return for it; NOTREACHED"
- # [17:18] <dholbert> mounir, but I just restructured the logic for that one to make the NOTREACHED unnecessary
- # [17:18] <dholbert> s/==/!=/
- # [17:20] <davidb> bsmedberg: sorry for delay (asked Marco to drive it for now)
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- # [17:22] <@smaug> lsblakk: oh, didn't know that tef+ has such implications
- # [17:22] <@smaug> hmm, which branch does tef+ mean?
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- # [17:23] <mounir> smaug: b2g18
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- # [17:24] <@smaug> mounir: mozilla-b2g18_v1_0_1 or mozilla-b2g18_v1_0_0 ?
- # [17:24] <darkowlzz> yzen, do you know anyone else who could help us in this?
- # [17:24] <@smaug> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/B2G_Landing isn't clear
- # [17:24] <mayhemer> TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/browser/browser/base/content/test/social/browser_defaults.js | Exception thrown - [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIPrefBranch.getComplexValue]" nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://mochitests/content/browser/browser/base/content/test/social/browser_defaults.js :: test :: line 11" data: no]
- # [17:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6507b43a880 - Julian Seward - Bug 861800 - Make UnwinderThread2 a bit less verbose. r=bgirard
- # [17:24] <yzen> darkowlzz: Yoric would be my best guess
- # [17:24] <mayhemer> I stared the build, but this maybe important to track https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21814814&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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- # [17:25] <@smaug> RyanVM: ping
- # [17:25] <RyanVM> pong
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- # [17:26] <darkowlzz> yzen, okay, I will reply to his needinfo, mentioning about this problem
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- # [17:26] <darkowlzz> thanks a lot yzen :)
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- # [17:26] <yzen> darkowlzz: np, sorry i was of no help there
- # [17:27] <darkowlzz> yzen, you helped go ahead of where I was
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- # [17:27] <darkowlzz> now it's just a few more steps to the final complete patch :)
- # [17:27] <darkowlzz> *me go ahead
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- # [17:28] <yzen> cool
- # [17:28] <dholbert> mounir, why do you want MOZ_NOT_REACHED instead of an assertion in all of those places?
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- # [17:28] <dholbert> mounir, as noted in the bug I linked to, it produces strictly less safe code
- # [17:28] <RyanVM> mayhemer: I'm not sure if that bc star on your push was right
- # [17:28] <RyanVM> the failure looks different than bug 847124
- # [17:29] <dholbert> mounir, if we e.g. add a new input type and forget to check for it in one of these case statements, then it'll fall through to the MOZ_NOT_REACHED and we'll be hosed
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- # [17:29] <dholbert> potentially
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- # [17:30] <jcranmer> so we are two classes away from moving all of the DOM nodes to WebIDL?
- # [17:31] <dholbert> mounir, did you look at the bug I linked to, where jlebar & others point out that MOZ_NOT_REACHED is misused and dangerous?
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- # [17:32] <dholbert> legitimate places to use it would be e.g. after MOZ_CRASH(), because execution literally cannot get to code after that (except I think MOZ_CRASH might already implicitly include it). None of the instances in this bug are near that level -- they're more like assertions that our enum value should be within a particular range of values
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- # [17:33] <mounir> dholbert: jlebar is actually seating next to me
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- # [17:33] <mounir> I looked at the bug but I missed one part
- # [17:33] <dholbert> ah nice :)
- # [17:33] <mounir> with is the __builtin_unreachable having an unexpected behaviour by itself
- # [17:33] <jlebar> bent: This is what MOZ_NOT_REACHED should say. https://bug820686.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=691220
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- # [17:34] <mounir> dholbert: re-ask for a review
- # [17:34] <dholbert> mounir, ok
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- # [17:36] <bsmedberg> why does `new Date('2013-03-04') return a date of "Sun Mar 03 2013 19:00:00 GMT-0500 (EST)" ?
- # [17:36] <bsmedberg> something about timezones, I guess?
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- # [17:36] <jcranmer> new Date returns a date in UTC
- # [17:37] <jcranmer> and I guess Date.toString() defaults to the local timezone
- # [17:37] <jcranmer> and new Date with a day but no time refers to midnight of that day
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- # [17:37] <jcranmer> i.e., '2013-03-04' == '2013-03-04 00:00:00.000'
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- # [17:38] <glazou> bsmedberg: does not do that here
- # [17:38] <jcranmer> isn't time fun? :-)
- # [17:38] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: but... new Date(2013, 2, 4) gives me the date in localtime
- # [17:39] <bsmedberg> as in "Mon Mar 04 2013 00:00:00 GMT-0500 (EST)"
- # [17:39] <glazou> I also have a date in GMT
- # [17:39] <glazou> "Mon Mar 04 2013 01:00:00 GMT+0100 (CET)"
- # [17:40] <bsmedberg> glazou: with the string or the numbers?
- # [17:40] <glazou> string
- # [17:40] <RyanVM> smaug: did you still have questions about b2g uplifts?
- # [17:40] <@dbaron> bz, I guess it's just that the document implementations are totally different and do different things...
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- # [17:40] <@bz> dbaron: ?
- # [17:41] <glazou> so the string gives you midnight UTC that day in your own TZ
- # [17:41] <@dbaron> bz, continuing my comments about 2 hours ago
- # [17:41] <@dbaron> bz, er, 1 hour 5 mins
- # [17:41] <@bz> dbaron: I missed those...
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- # [17:41] <@dbaron> glazou, 00:00, given that there are technically two ways to write midnight (00:00 and 24:00) that mean different things :-)
- # [17:41] <@bz> dbaron: ah
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- # [17:42] <@bz> dbaron: so xul documents aren't constructed from a content sink
- # [17:42] <@bz> dbaron: they're constructed from the prototype
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- # [17:42] <@bz> dbaron: so we just do InitialReflow or whatever it's called now when we've loaded everything
- # [17:42] <@dbaron> bz, yeah
- # [17:43] <@bz> dbaron: we could just change how we do it for normal documents based on "something"
- # [17:43] <@dbaron> bz, yeah... the question is how (a) hard and (b) scary that would be
- # [17:43] <@bz> dbaron: ah, it's called Initialize() now
- # [17:43] <@bz> so
- # [17:43] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: ECMA-262 doesn't say if it should be local or UTC
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- # [17:43] <bsmedberg> I love JS
- # [17:43] <@bz> It may not be too hard
- # [17:43] <bsmedberg> that and the 0-index month but 1-index days
- # [17:43] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: oh wait, it does
- # [17:43] <@bz> maybe somewhat moderately scary
- # [17:44] <@bz> but what I question is how useful
- # [17:44] <jcranmer> " The val
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- # [17:44] <jcranmer> absent time zone offset is
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- # [17:44] <@bz> are these pages that have no script that ever touches layout stuff before onload?
- # [17:44] <@bz> because touching layout stuff will of course force layout to start
- # [17:44] <@dbaron> bz, no idea
- # [17:44] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: basically, any ISO8601 date that lacks a timezone is assumed to be UTC
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- # [17:45] <@bz> dbaron: worth asking Andreas, I guess.
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- # [17:45] <@bz> dbaron: Making script not flush layout would be much scarier, though I suspect still easy.
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- # [17:46] <DevHC> hey, i've found something on the "unresolved symbol: PrepareAndDispatch" linking errors that i've been getting when compiling SM/FF with the latest version of Clang: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577813
- # [17:46] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: of course, this also contradicts MDN :-)
- # [17:46] <DevHC> the bug report gives a hint that certain "__attribute__((__used__))" traits r missing from PrepareAndDispatch()
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- # [17:46] <DevHC> however, the bug report also seems to say that this has been fixed in LLVM some months ago, which is not the case apparently
- # [17:47] <@dbaron> bz, though I'm thinking maybe what we really want is the ability to (a) actually hide the iframe displaying the thing until it's ready and (b) suppress refresh-driver-based reflow and painting inside an iframe so hidden (but still have the right size in case reflows are needed)
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- # [19:12] <naveed> shu: ping
- # [19:13] <j4nu5> John-Galt: ping
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- # [19:15] <j4nu5> John-Galt: this is about the "enhanced customization api" gsoc project ... can you please have a look at my solution to the concurrency problem? ive mailed it to you ... thnx a ton!
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- # [19:16] <froydnj> RyanVM: thanks for the aurora stars! I have it open to star myself, but you are just too quick :)
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- # [19:16] <@khuey> WeirdAl: pong
- # [19:16] <RyanVM> froydnj: np :)
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- # [19:17] <WeirdAl> khuey: you vex me with your lack of feedback on the build part of bug 747597 :)
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- # [19:19] <WeirdAl> I am trying to fix it, y'know
- # [19:19] <UCC> hi, i'm new to firefox and I have some problems with the build process. I made some modifications, but when i run make in the coresponding object folder, the changes are not reflected in the program
- # [19:19] <@khuey> what part do you want me to look at? the makefiles?
- # [19:19] <WeirdAl> yes, the build system parts
- # [19:19] <padenot> UCC: run ./mach build
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- # [19:20] <padenot> UCC: from the root of the source directory
- # [19:20] <UCC> I know, but it takes too much, I thought i could speed the process
- # [19:20] <@khuey> WeirdAl: they look fine
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- # [19:20] <WeirdAl> thanks khuey
- # [19:21] <WeirdAl> though I suppose I have to update for moz.build now
- # [19:21] <padenot> UCC: then you want to ./mach build path/to/directory toolkit/library, usually
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- # [19:22] <@khuey> LOL
- # [19:22] <@khuey> http://www.iab.net/mozilla_petition/
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- # [19:24] <froydnj> RyanVM: does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21818778&tree=Mozilla-Aurora look at all familiar to you? searching for test_resizer doesn't turn up anything useful
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- # [19:24] <RyanVM> froydnj: probably "yet another osx 10.6 mochitest timeout"
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- # [19:26] <froydnj> RyanVM: sounds like the revenge of android timeouts
- # [19:26] <RyanVM> froydnj: not as frequent, but something like that
- # [19:27] <RyanVM> i'm guessing it's more just related to slow hardware
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- # [19:27] <RyanVM> nevermind that we run all our windows xp/7 tests on the same minis :P
- # [19:27] <UCC> padenot: in the mozilla build wiki it says I should also run make in layout/build (i modified in layout/forms). But it seams it doesn't detect any changes. I tried to touch the file but still nothing
- # [19:28] <padenot> iirc, this is not needed anymore
- # [19:28] <padenot> not sure, though
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- # [19:28] <froydnj> RyanVM: do we have a bug# for that already? bug 842603 is close but not quite
- # [19:29] <RyanVM|lunch> a generic one for the timeouts? no
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- # [19:29] <RyanVM|lunch> depending on how motivated we're feeling, we file the one-offs
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- # [19:30] <RyanVM|lunch> heh
- # [19:30] <RyanVM|lunch> bjacob: ping
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- # [19:30] <bjacob> RyanVM|lunch: pong
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- # [19:31] <RyanVM|lunch> bjacob: we've been seeing a lot of windows xp mochitest-1 disconnects that look like crashes in the webgl test suite
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- # [19:31] <jduell> ferjm: pong
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- # [19:31] <RyanVM|lunch> bjacob: like this - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21800749&tree=Mozilla-Central
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- # [19:32] <RyanVM|lunch> bjacob: I haven't been rigorously checking every one, but many look like they're happening around the B2 test
- # [19:32] <bjacob> RyanVM|lunch: does look like it. Are they all in the same Webgl test page (here quickCheckAPI-B2.html) ?
- # [19:32] <bjacob> ok
- # [19:32] <froydnj> oh, hey, unstarred aurora tests 10 pushes back
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- # [19:32] <bjacob> RyanVM|lunch: file a bug, i'll make a patch skipping this page on winxp
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- # [19:32] <bjacob> RyanVM|lunch: it's likely an OOM
- # [19:32] <RyanVM|lunch> that works :)
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- # [19:33] <ferjm> jduell, hi! I intend to work on bug 861894, and I was wondering if the approach that I was taking is the appropriate one. My idea is basically to set the 'mDisabled' flag to false once I receive a notification about the device storage being full
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- # [19:34] <jduell> ferjm: :mayhemer is the best one to ask (but he's not on IRC right now--he's in Central Europe timezone). Email him?
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- # [19:35] <ferjm> jduell, ok, I'll do that. Thanks!
- # [19:35] <jduell> ferjm: np
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- # [19:37] <gaston> ../../dist/bin/libxul.so.39.0: undefined reference to `JSContext::updateMallocCounter(unsigned long)'
- # [19:37] <gaston> ohnoes!
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- # [19:40] <gaston> strange, size_t is unsigned long ..
- # [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9a88189be9c - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 85955 -Don't thumbnail capture when in snapped view.r=rsilveira
- # [19:41] <gaston> 0257351c T JS_updateMallocCounter(JSContext*, unsigned long)
- # [19:41] <gaston> U JSContext::updateMallocCounter(unsigned long)
- # [19:41] <gaston> strange... something ate the inline func
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- # [19:45] <gaston> hm some objfiles in js have it with jscompartement arg, others not..
- # [19:45] <gaston> U JSRuntime::updateMallocCounter(JSCompartment*, unsigned long)
- # [19:45] <gaston> U JSRuntime::updateMallocCounter(unsigned long)
- # [19:46] <gaston> and libjs_static.a has
- # [19:46] <gaston> 00000000 ? JSRuntime::updateMallocCounter(JSCompartment*, unsigned long)
- # [19:46] <gaston> 00000000 ? JSRuntime::updateMallocCounter(unsigned long)
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- # [19:48] <mjrosenb> bajaj: sure, how do I do that?
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- # [19:49] <dholbert> mjrosenb, click details for the patch, and request approval for whatever branch is affected
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- # [19:50] <dholbert> mjrosenb, and then answer the questions that get auto-populated in the comment field
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- # [19:51] <bajaj> mjrosenb: On the patch attachment, you can set it for approval-aurora,approval-beta and fill the form :)
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- # [19:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6ffd1baf90a - Jonathan Kew - bug 857192 - use float instead of integer CSS pixels to track available space for image. r=bz
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- # [20:11] <mjrosenb> http://www.iab.net/mozilla_petition/ -- yay, another contriversial feature! sounds like we're doing something right!
- # [20:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/175149690cbb - Nathan Froyd - Bug 861372 - delete checks for FPU_IS_ARM_FPA; r=mjrosenb
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- # [20:13] <rillian> mjrosenb: like how that doesn't render correctly in nightly
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- # [20:14] <mjrosenb> rillian: seems to work for me?
- # [20:14] <mjrosenb> my nightly is also a couple of weeks old at this point.
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- # [20:17] <till> ooh, that petition is deliciously wrong
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- # [20:19] <till> One wonders if all those small ad businesses completely ignore iOS
- # [20:20] <joe> probably iAds does something evil
- # [20:20] <joe> and everyone just uses iAds
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- # [20:21] <lmandel> Anyone have a good reference for how to embed Gecko? This is for a friend's non Mozilla project.
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- # [20:21] <till> joe: what I mean is that Safari hasn't ever supported 3rd-party cookies. Neither on desktop nor on mobile
- # [20:21] <joe> nobody cares about mobile safari yet
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- # [20:22] <joe> mobile is still too small a segment of web browsing
- # [20:22] <joe> firefox, though, is 1/4 of the web
- # [20:23] <dholbert> lmandel, I'm not 100% sure it's easy (or possible?) at the moment. IIRC we used to halfheartedly support embedding, but it didn't work great, so we dropped support for it
- # [20:24] <lmandel> dholbert: OK. Thanks. Looks like there is lots of out of date docs on MDN about this.
- # [20:24] <dholbert> lmandel, bsmedberg would be among the people most likely to know if third-party projects can embed gecko & how, though
- # [20:24] <@khuey> lmandel: judging by what the world seems to do, I'm going to guess it goes something like "step 1: download webkit"
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- # [20:24] <bsmedberg> lmandel: there are no good docs, but there are some people doing it
- # [20:24] <mjrosenb> lmandel: iirc, wine embeds gecko for its help browser.
- # [20:24] <bsmedberg> lmandel: I think the best answer may be "read the winembed sources"
- # [20:24] <dholbert> lmandel, [ah, sounds like it's better than I thought, aside from the lack of docs.]
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- # [20:25] <luisbg> joe, what are the desktop web browser segment statistics?
- # [20:25] <lmandel> dholbert, mjrosenb, bsmedberg, dholbert: Thanks.
- # [20:25] <lmandel> khuey: ;)
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- # [20:27] <joe> luisbg: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/03/chrome-hits-17-month-low-windows-8-still-only-creeping-upward/
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- # [20:27] <j4nu5> John-Galt: ping
- # [20:27] <mcsmurf> Gecko embedding? sad story..
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- # [20:27] <John-Galt> j4nu5: pong
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- # [20:28] <j4nu5> John-Galt: this is about the "enhanced customization api" gsoc project ... can you please have a look at my solution to the concurrency problem? ive mailed it to you ... thnx a ton!
- # [20:28] <till> joe: heh, I just wanted to send you that same link
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- # [20:29] <till> joe: across desktop and mobile, Safari certainly can't be ignored at all, so I very much doubt that all those ad businesses do
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- # [20:30] <joe> till: this is about perceptions though - 1/4 is pretty hard to ignore, but 1/20 or 1/10 is
- # [20:30] <till> joe: it's telling that their FAQ doesn't reference Safari at all
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- # [20:30] <till> joe: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/internet-explorer-10-almost-doubles-its-users-thanks-to-windows-7-release/
- # [20:30] <joe> till: ah! i missed that one due to its title
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- # [20:31] <mcsmurf> also re gecko embedding: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.embedding/c_NMcO-N8wo/discussion
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- # [20:31] <till> joe: I know, browser statistics are very notoriously unreliable, but making a fuzz about 18% while keeping completely mum about 12% doesn't make much sense to me
- # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5a1dd3bd8ae - Sean Stangl - Bug 860029 - Standardize Modelines in the JS Module. r=njn
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- # [20:31] <joe> till: i really wonder at what point firefox for android, which is almost certainly higher than opera for mobile, will be added to ars' statistics
- # [20:31] <mcsmurf> many embedding bindings have been removed in 2012
- # [20:32] <till> joe: we should ping them about that, perhaps
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- # [20:33] <till> joe: although I'm not sure that it really higher
- # [20:33] <till> s/really higher/really is higher/
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- # [20:34] <John-Galt> j4nu5: You're overthinking things again. First of all, all JavaScript execution (aside from workers, which wouldn't have access to this API) happens on the main thread. We're not worried about concurrency issues.
- # [20:34] <John-Galt> j4nu5: Second, we're not worried about this level of technical detail at this point.
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- # [20:35] <luisbg> joe, Internet Explorer is too damn high
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- # [20:37] <till> luisbg++
- # [20:37] <luisbg> till, :)
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- # [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7f985396eee - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 748495 - Don't call setCSSViewport unnecessarily. r=Cwiiis
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- # [20:42] <j4nu5> John-Galt: OK ... sorry for misinterpreting the problem ... so as i understand, this problem is about managing priority b/w addons that are installed (almost) at the same time that want to change a preference?
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- # [20:45] <John-Galt> j4nu5: Yes, although in my opinion that's an issue that should work itself out.
- # [20:45] <joe> till: his reply: "Nope, it's negligible."
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- # [20:46] <till> joe: whose reply?
- # [20:46] <joe> sorry
- # [20:46] <joe> peter from ars
- # [20:46] <joe> https://twitter.com/drpizza/status/323867689888141314
- # [20:46] <till> joe: ah, ok
- # [20:47] <till> joe: that's what I was afraid of :-|
- # [20:47] <j4nu5> John-Galt: yup exactly ... bcoz if the requests are not concurrent, the addon which changes a preference last, will be the one which is the "winner" so to speak ... right?
- # [20:47] <John-Galt> j4nu5: Yes
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- # [20:49] <j4nu5> John-Galt: k ... one more thing: what should i do at this stage wrt the proposal ... i mean can u give me a hint of the level of implementation/technical details u guys are expecting ...
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- # [20:50] <j4nu5> John-Galt: i suppose writing a few patches/bugfixes for firefox will help too ?...
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- # [20:52] <nhnt11> hi
- # [20:52] <nhnt11> i'm interested in doing a gsoc with mozilla as well
- # [20:52] <BenWa> How do I show hiddens jobs on TBPL? my Try run is always failing Android 4.0 Opt RC1/RC2 but I can't see if my qparent passed it
- # [20:52] <BenWa> qparent: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=d09a5a5666ba
- # [20:52] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Have you tried #introduction ?
- # [20:53] <nhnt11> but i'm not sure how much technical experience you guys require as a prerequsitite
- # [20:53] <nhnt11> yes
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- # [20:53] <RyanVM|lunch> BenWa: add &showall=1
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- # [20:53] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Ah, okay. :)
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- # [20:53] <JosiahOne> ?
- # [20:53] <RyanVM> BenWa: and it's hidden for a reason :P
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- # [20:54] <BenWa> RyanVM: Well its green on my qparent https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=d09a5a5666ba&showall=1 so I wonder if I should care about my try push failing it?
- # [20:54] <nhnt11> although
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- # [20:54] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Well, how much technical experience do you have?
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- # [20:54] <RyanVM> link?
- # [20:54] <BenWa> RyanVM: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=34bc919296bc
- # [20:54] <nhnt11> well i've done a lot of java work
- # [20:54] <John-Galt> j4nu5: I'm interested in the broad architectural details and how the process will appear from a developer and user perspective. And, yes, writing patches for Firefox would help a lot.
- # [20:54] <nhnt11> i contributed to cyanogenmod (android distribution) for quite some time
- # [20:54] <BenWa> RyanVM: Another try run off the same patch: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=23c84d983fea
- # [20:54] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Ah, so I'm seeing Firefox for Android in your future.
- # [20:54] <nhnt11> so i know how to use git and i've done a lot of android development
- # [20:54] <nhnt11> yes
- # [20:55] <BenWa> Ohh one RC1 passed....
- # [20:55] <nhnt11> that was where i intended to poke around for my project
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- # [20:55] <RyanVM> BenWa: they're incredibly timeout-prone, that's why they're hidden
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- # [20:55] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Maybe ask someone in #mobile then?
- # [20:55] <nhnt11> but i didnt see anything that could help me start poking around on the ideas page
- # [20:55] <nhnt11> okay!
- # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ed84d612a69 - David Keeler - bug 847621 - follow-up to fix SOURCE url r=bsmith DONTBUILD because NPOTB
- # [20:55] <BenWa> RyanVM: Ok in that case I'll ignore them. Otherwise it looks like my push is good
- # [20:55] <nhnt11> thanks
- # [20:56] <nhnt11> but i'm also interested in doing a project with firefox if i can
- # [20:56] <nhnt11> it would help me finally get my c++/javascript skills up to scratch
- # [20:57] <nhnt11> but if you guys need it as a prerequisite rather than something i would be able to learn on the way, i think i should stay away for this year, correct?
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- # [20:57] <j4nu5> John-Galt: got it! so i guess i will send another draft of my proposal as soon as i can ... thnx!
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- # [20:59] <JosiahOne|Away> nhnt11: Oh no. I don't know much about the GSoC projects, but in general contributing to Firefox isn't hard. I never learned C, C++, or Web languages, but as long as you have some CS knowledge, it's not hard to learn and implement. (Unless you plan to take really difficult projects)
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- # [20:59] <JosiahOne|Away> Though I do have a lot of Obj-C experience, which helps.
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- # [21:00] <JosiahOne|Away> nhnt11: Oh no. I don't know much about the GSoC projects, but in general contributing to Firefox isn't hard. I never learned C, C++, or Web languages, but as long as you have some CS knowledge, it's not hard to learn and implement. (Unless you plan to take really difficult projects)
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- # [21:00] <nhnt11> great.
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- # [21:00] <doublec> jst: pong
- # [21:00] <nhnt11> i'm just worried about writing my proposal
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- # [21:00] <nhnt11> unfortunately, right now i have a lot of projects due at uni and wont have time to write more than one or two proposals at max
- # [21:01] <nhnt11> so if i dont have much of a chance at firefox, i'll look elsewhere
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- # [21:01] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Ah… Hmm… You should really talk to someone who knows more about GSoC. I don't know a lot about it.
- # [21:01] <nhnt11> okay
- # [21:02] <JosiahOne> I'm not sure who that would be exactly...
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- # [21:02] <nhnt11> i'll do some googling :)
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- # [21:05] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: Looks like you should email Gerv.
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- # [21:05] <JosiahOne> nhnt11: According to this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode12#Application_Advice
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- # [21:05] <JosiahOne> Good luck!
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- # [21:12] <nhnt11> thanks a bunch JosiahOne|Away
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- # [21:20] <nemo> is there any way to get little ticks on a range control like opera offers?
- # [21:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/786614886674 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out e6f337d218b4 (bug 768288) for bug648747.js jit-test failures
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- # [21:21] <nemo> 'cause. it is kind of a pain to use in firefox
- # [21:21] <nemo> (and safari and chrome)
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- # [21:23] <dholbert> nemo, you can style it yourself :)
- # [21:23] <dholbert> nemo, right now we just have basic styling
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- # [21:24] <mjrosenb> hey, does anyone remember touching the webrtc config stuff in the past?
- # [21:24] <mjrosenb> it looks like it is turned on for all linux platforms
- # [21:24] <mjrosenb> even ppc and the like.
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- # [21:25] <jesup> I did much of it. The recent android landings by gcp may have modified that code
- # [21:25] <jesup> (in fact I know it did
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- # [21:25] <gcp> nope
- # [21:25] <gcp> you r+ a patch, but nothing landed
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- # [21:26] <jesup> Ah
- # [21:26] <gcp> https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/8a2f691e0024
- # [21:27] <gcp> this is what you reviwed, but that's still pending someone to r+ the clone patch
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- # [21:28] <gcp> that code also shows that indeed it's currently enabled for ppc on linux
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- # [21:29] <jesup> And I think I've gotten bugs against that (vague memory)
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- # [21:32] <mjrosenb> well, there was an arm/linux bug a while back, where we specifically disabled it on android
- # [21:32] <mjrosenb> but it didn't work on arm/linux either.
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- # [21:32] <mjrosenb> iirc, it is a silly thing where there is a file with both an se versin and a non-sse version
- # [21:33] <mjrosenb> and the non-sse file also contains intel primitives.
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- # [21:33] <gcp> I would land this already if some good soul would just review bug 861637
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- # [21:34] <gcp> inbound is open even
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- # [21:36] <nemo> dholbert: well. cool? how?
- # [21:36] <nemo> dholbert: I have no idea how to style a range control to show a tick mark at every interval
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- # [21:37] <nemo> dholbert: it isn't like the intervals are sub elements or anything...
- # [21:37] <nemo> dholbert: unless you expose some magic styling for that
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- # [21:37] <nemo> s/interval/step/
- # [21:37] <mjrosenb> gcp: /win 2
- # [21:37] <mjrosenb> err
- # [21:37] <mjrosenb> gcp: seems harmless enough. I can do a blind r+ :-p
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- # [21:42] <nemo> dholbert: also. besides tick marks, kinda sad I have to resort to javascript just to let the user know what the form is.
- # [21:42] <nemo> er. what the value is
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- # [21:43] <nemo> dholbert: normally I like to degrade gracefully, but in this case the only way to degrade gracefully is to add type="range" in JS and leave it as text by default.
- # [21:43] <nemo> or. I guess, the user mentally counting as they move the slider
- # [21:43] <nemo> as it is, it is almost non-functional on its own. Really needs a printed value on the left or right (disableable by styling if people want) and tick marks :-p
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- # [21:44] <KaiRo> hah, shortly after Google announce their rendering engine mocking the <blink> tag with its name, we remove blink support from Gecko in bug 857820 :)
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- # [21:46] <tbsaunde> rkk/win 44
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- # [21:46] <@gavin> nalexander: hrm, why'd you land that in multiple parts? that'll break bisection :(
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- # [21:47] <nalexander> gavin: shit, really? I wanted the moves to be separate because I wasn't confident HG handled move + edit correctly.
- # [21:47] <nalexander> gavin: is it worth backing out and relanding? I'm happy to do it.
- # [21:47] <nemo> KaiRo: blink always annoyed me, even the CSS3 blink. But <marquee> was actually useful for its time. The JS reimplementations over the years tended to be clunkier and suck up more CPU
- # [21:47] <nemo> KaiRo: Is nice to be able to do that one in CSS3 too :)
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- # [21:48] <@gavin> nalexander: nah, at this point the damage is done. not a big deal but worth noting for the future.
- # [21:48] <Gijs> bsmedberg: non-native speaker here, in your review for bug 763890, which word(s) need to be spelled differently?
- # [21:49] <@gavin> nalexander: fwiw hg handles move + edit fine :)
- # [21:49] <bsmedberg> Gijs: IFF
- # [21:49] <nalexander> gavin: duly noted. Sorry :( Does hg handle move + edit... great. Trying to be too clever by half.
- # [21:49] <Gijs> bsmedberg: if and only if?
- # [21:49] <bsmedberg> Gijs: I don't recognize that acronym
- # [21:49] <bsmedberg> so you need to spell it out or something
- # [21:49] <Gijs> alright, I'll spell it out. :)
- # [21:49] <Gijs> sure!
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- # [21:51] <@gavin> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=%20iff%20 has quite a few hits :)
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- # [21:56] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: why do XPIDL enums have IIDs?
- # [21:56] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: so they can be referenced by Components.interfaces
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- # [21:56] <jcranmer> I think
- # [21:56] <dholbert> nemo, yeah, if you wanted a generalized tick-mark-per-increment, for all ranges, there's no way to do that in css - you'd have to know the min/max value.
- # [21:56] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: hrm
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- # [21:57] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I don't pretend to understand everything I need for that to work
- # [21:57] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: we can't nest them?
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- # [21:58] <bsmedberg> or even Ci.nsISomething.Value (which is an EnumThing)
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- # [21:58] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: my main use case is people like http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/public/nsMsgFolderFlags.idl
- # [21:58] * bsmedberg wonders if the goal is to replace the existing interface consts with these with no JS changes
- # [21:59] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: yeah, pretty much
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- # [21:59] <jcranmer> (although I don't support x = 0, y = 2 in enums so hmm)
- # [21:59] <dholbert> nemo, agreed that it'd be nice to have the value more obviously displayed somehow, so the user doesn't have to count ticks. I'm not sure if there are plans for that; jwatt would know
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- # [22:00] * bsmedberg hasn't seen that type of interface before, and was more thinking about these kinds of enums: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsIEventTarget.idl#37
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- # [22:01] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: that's also useful at times too
- # [22:01] <jcranmer> the problem is we have two different ways of specifying this kind of stuff
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- # [22:02] <bsmedberg> jcranmer: of course. Hrm http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2308745
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- # [22:03] <jcranmer> mind if I file a followup and fix it there?
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- # [22:05] <jcranmer> it gets compiled to a MOZ_ENUM_CLASS
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- # [22:06] <jcranmer> (well, nsMsgFolderFlags is a bitfield, so it's not the best example in the world; some of the mime classes use it better)
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- # [22:14] <RyanVM> dammit jduell, stop push racing me
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- # [22:15] <philor> you don't like multiple merges?
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- # [22:15] <Gijs> Unfocused: ah, excellent.
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- # [22:18] <dholbert> philor++
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- # [22:18] <RyanVM> heh
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- # [22:18] <nemo> dholbert: well. there are no ticks to count ;)
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- # [22:19] <dholbert> nemo, sure there are. e.g. data:text/html,<html><input type="range" min="0" max="5">
- # [22:19] <nemo> dholbert: uh. I mean visible ticks :-p
- # [22:19] <dholbert> nemo, by "ticks" I meant snapping-to-position actions
- # [22:20] <nemo> yeah. there's that
- # [22:20] <RyanVM> philor: yeah, I had to manually resolve a merge conflict
- # [22:20] <dholbert> gotcha. yeah, none of those, right
- # [22:20] <RyanVM> always a joy
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- # [22:20] <nemo> dholbert: and it is maddening w/ a longer series to get it to work right (I was doing 1-15)
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- # [22:21] <nemo> dholbert: since the jumping isn't quite following the mouse ofc, and w/ no ticks, the intervals are hard to predict
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- # [22:21] <dholbert> nemo, understood, yeah
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- # [22:21] <RyanVM> next time I hit a merge conflict, I'm closing the tree immediately
- # [22:21] <nemo> dholbert: actually, they'll probably ask me to just disable it unless I can fake ticks. probably some JS thing where I shove a positioned element underneath w/ vertical lines using a bunch of border-left
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- # [22:21] <RyanVM> what a pain in the arse resolving a conflict only to get push raced due to the delay
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- # [22:22] <nemo> dholbert: luckily the width is in px in this case
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- # [22:23] <nemo> dholbert: oh. and if there *were* ticks, or the option for them, it would also be nice to have an option to number/have large size for every nth tick - like on X axis of a graph (major/minor) - that way you could select a number by just clicking at that point on the range.
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- # [22:24] <nemo> right now, you can click on an arbitrary part of the range, but, it is just a guess. esp w/o an informative number on the left or right
- # [22:24] <dholbert> nemo, this sounds like the sort of thing you might want to email the whatwg about, if you care about it being portable at all
- # [22:24] <dholbert> nemo, per spec, "just a guess" seems to be the intended use-case
- # [22:24] <nemo> dholbert: huh. you'd think they'dve considered this sort of stuff already...
- # [22:24] <dholbert> nemo, http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/input.range.html says "imprecise number-input control"
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- # [22:25] <nemo> hum.
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- # [22:25] <philor> tbsaunde: assertions! assertions everywhere!
- # [22:25] <dholbert> nemo, actually sorry, that's the wrong page I think
- # [22:26] <RyanVM> philor: anyway, I think that's the main lesson learned - close inbound immediately in the event of a merge conflict
- # [22:26] <philor> yeah
- # [22:26] <nemo> oh well. fine. if "imprecise" is the operative concept, I guess I'll abandon this...
- # [22:27] <bsmedberg> dolske: do you own PopupNotifications.jsm? I'm going to need to significantly customize the UI for the proposed plugin doorhanger
- # [22:27] <dholbert> nemo, http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/states-of-the-type-attribute.html#range-state-%28type=range%29 is the right page -- it appears they do like (but don't mandate) tick marks, based on the sample renderings
- # [22:27] <bsmedberg> dolske: and I wanted to figure out who I should work with on the API
- # [22:27] <nemo> tick marks would definitely help...
- # [22:27] * philor closes to limit the number of Linux oths he'll have to star
- # [22:27] <nemo> "The input element represents a control for setting the element's value to a string representing a number, but with the caveat that the exact value is not important, "
- # [22:27] <nemo> welp. since in my case exact value is important, I guess I'll just use number...
- # [22:28] <nemo> it seemed nicer than the little fiddling arrows on a number control is all
- # [22:28] <dholbert> ah right, that's the operative text
- # [22:28] <nemo> dang spinboxes
- # [22:28] <dholbert> yeah
- # [22:28] <nemo> I was like. I have tons of horizontal room, and I need to pick a number in a range. how about using... range
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- # [22:30] <nemo> dholbert: it was a number line, how do you rank this concept from 1-10 FWIW :)
- # [22:30] <nemo> thought it looked much prettier with a line of sliders
- # [22:30] <nemo> but. it does matter whether they pick 7 vs 8
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- # [22:30] <dholbert> nemo, gotcha
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- # [22:31] <tbsaunde> philor: oh, link?
- # [22:31] <dholbert> nemo, when he's on, it'd be worth asking jwatt if he knows whether there are plans for adding tickmarks etc
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- # [22:31] <philor> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21825951&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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- # [22:33] <tbsaunde> philor: remind me this is bug 733712 right?
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- # [22:35] <philor> tbsaunde: correct
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- # [22:41] <tbsaunde> philor: want me to do it?
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- # [22:41] <philor> tbsaunde: oh, I already did, a while back
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- # [22:43] <tbsaunde> philor: sorry
- # [22:45] <philor> tbsaunde: no worries, it's nice to have one that's limited to just one platform for a change :)
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- # [22:48] <tbsaunde> philor: and builds too :)
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- # [22:52] <@ehsan> Waldo: ping?
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- # [22:54] <joe> does about:support not contain information about whether an extension contains binary components?
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- # [22:56] <Mossop> joe: It does not
- # [22:56] <joe> that's too bad
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- # [22:58] <Waldo> ehsan: pong
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- # [23:00] <@ehsan> Waldo: nm :)
- # [23:00] <Waldo> ehsan: tease
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- # [23:03] <filiptanu> hello, I'm Filip and I'm interested in applying to Mozilla in this year's Google Summer of Code, for the "MDN CSS Generation Tools" project...
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- # [23:05] <filiptanu> if I have any questions, should I ask here, or speak to a particular person? or maybe join the mailing lists?
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- # [23:06] <Archaeopteryx> filiptanu: you want to contact teoli, you can find the e-mail here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13#Documentation
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- # [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31ee1812897a - Olli Pettay - Bug 856303 - Paris binding for MouseScrollEvent, r=peterv
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- # [23:30] <mjrosenb> does the mozilla phonebook have an entry for skype name?
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- # [23:31] <till> mjrosenb: I just added it to the "IM Account(s)" list
- # [23:31] <dholbert> same here
- # [23:31] <dholbert> at https://phonebook.mozilla.org/edit.php
- # [23:32] <philor> gps: aurora would like to talk to you and rnewman about whether or not it can have "data for today"
- # [23:32] * mjrosenb needs to remember what his skype name is
- # [23:32] <mjrosenb> it was very unprofessional
- # [23:32] <mjrosenb> since basically everything that I could have used was taken
- # [23:32] <dholbert> mjrosenb, you can make another one :)
- # [23:32] <dholbert> if it's too unprofessional-sounding
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- # [23:32] <dholbert> (if this is like for an interview or something)
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- # [23:33] <mjrosenb> dholbert: my interview was rescheduled because evidently vlad wanted martin best, not me :-p
- # [23:33] <seth> i notice that people are pushing despite the closed tree
- # [23:33] <rnewman> philor: sadface
- # [23:33] <seth> does that mean that i can push despite the closed tree too? =)
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- # [23:34] <philor> no
- # [23:34] <seth> =(
- # [23:34] <mjrosenb> "mjrose3nb"
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- # [23:34] <philor> martin2ndbest
- # [23:35] <mjrosenb> till: impressive.
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- # [23:35] <mcsmurf> is it not possible to combine the files from a .tests.zip from buildbot with a local build to test some special problem? (yes, quite special problem..)
- # [23:35] * mjrosenb has "mjrosenb" almost everywhere
- # [23:35] <mjrosenb> skype is the first place where it has been taken.
- # [23:35] <mcsmurf> xpcshell.exe then crashes with some dll entry point error
- # [23:35] <till> mjrosenb: it's not that I actively do anything for it. More that my last name is, while not entirely unknown, not that common.
- # [23:36] <mjrosenb> till: sounds very german to say the least.
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- # [23:37] <till> mjrosenb: heh, yes.
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- # [23:38] <till> mjrosenb: it's from a region that's part of Russia now, so even in Germany, it's pretty rare.
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- # [23:39] <mjrosenb> till: germany is several countries away from russia
- # [23:39] <mjrosenb> or at least two.
- # [23:39] <till> mjrosenb: well, one
- # [23:40] <mjrosenb> oh, is that hunk of land north of poland part of russia?
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- # [23:41] <till> mjrosenb: exactly
- # [23:41] <till> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prussia
- # [23:42] <till> mjrosenb: and that's exactly where my grandfather came from
- # [23:42] <till> mjrosenb: Europe has a kinda complicated history, and thus: map, you know? ;)
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- # [23:45] <mjrosenb> most of my great-grandparents came from eastern europe
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- # [23:45] <mjrosenb> some from countries that no longer exist
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- # [23:46] <till> oh, right - your name kinda indicates that heritage, I guess
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- # [23:47] <mjrosenb> well, 1/8 of it at least :-p
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- # [23:48] <till> 1/8 of your name?
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- # [23:49] <mjrosenb> till: 1/8 of my heritage.
- # [23:49] <till> mjrosenb: ah, I see :)
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- # [23:53] <Jesse> seth: ?
- # [23:54] <seth> Jesse: just got clobbered is all =)
- # [23:54] <Jesse> better than a failed or frankenbuild
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- # [23:54] <mjrosenb> Jesse: what is a frankenbuild?
- # [23:54] <seth> possibly, though in practice i've often had success avoiding clobbers
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- # [23:55] <Jesse> pieces of one version mixed with pieces of another version, resulting in mysterious runtime failures (also "frankenfox")
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