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# [00:03] <mjrosenb> gps: https://bugs.gentoo.org/465396 is on file (not our bugzilla. this confuses me every time)
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# [00:05] <jduell> RyanVM: oh right, DONTBUILD, of course. Sorry about that
# [00:05] <gps> mjrosenb: oh, gentoo. I reckon that's their build env otherwise we would have heard about it
# [00:06] <mjrosenb> gps: who else builds for ppc?
# [00:06] <gps> also, PPC Linux isn't a tier 1 build configuration, so low on the priority list :)
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# [00:06] <mjrosenb> iirc, the last time I tried to build on osx/ppc it blew up in spectacular ways.
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# [00:07] <mjrosenb> gps: yeah, I'm looking into determining if it is just a gentoo thing, or we are defaulting to webrtc-on
# [00:07] <gps> we'll likely accept patches if people send them our way. but not something build peers will actively work on
# [00:07] <gps> I think we enabled webrtc a few releases ago
# [00:07] <mjrosenb> well, i'm upgrading from 15 (and that was upgraded from 3.5)
# [00:07] <mjrosenb> this machine has had a hard time finding a place where it can get power.
# [00:08] <crussell> bz: too bad that mxr link gives me an HTTP Auth dialog, since addons mxr isn't public
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# [00:09] <crussell> if I could get a list of those addons, though, I might fix them, too
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# [00:13] <wg9s> is there another planned inbound to central merge before nightlies?
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# [00:14] <wg9s> Would be nice to fix bug 861796.
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# [00:27] <mcsmurf> what's the best way again for a local backout?
# [00:27] <mcsmurf> hg qnew local_backout and then?
# [00:28] <mcsmurf> (I want to revert a single changeset)
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# [00:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bcb465f740f - Brian Nicholson - Bug 859584 - Fix about:home thumbnail issues. r=lucasr
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# [00:29] <dholbert> mcsmurf, "hg backout $csetid" usually works
# [00:29] <dholbert> mcsmurf, or if you're worried about merge conflicts...
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# [00:30] <dholbert> mcsmurf, hg up -r $cset_to_backout
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# [00:30] <dholbert> mcsmurf, hg revert -r $parent_of_that_cset
# [00:30] <dholbert> mcsmurf, hg qnew my-backout.patch (or hg qref if you've already created my-backout.patch)
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# [00:30] <dholbert> and finally hg qpop && hg up -r default
# [00:30] <mcsmurf> ok, thanks
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# [00:31] <dholbert> mcsmurf, you can probably replace the 'revert -r $parent_of_that_cset' command with 'hg backout $cset_to_backout', but I think hg backout had more magic associated with it at one point (though it seems to be closer to a revert now)
# [00:32] <mcsmurf> hg backout seems to take a lot of time
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# [00:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76ba09dd8b7b - Bill McCloskey - Bug 859586 - Remove {Start,End,Fail}DocumentLoad notifications (r=felipe)
# [00:33] <dholbert> mcsmurf, it can, yeah
# [00:33] <dholbert> mcsmurf, depends on how old the cset is that you're trying to back out
# [00:33] <mcsmurf> ah here we go
# [00:33] <mcsmurf> (a month)
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# [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f47fcb0a648 - Brian Smith - Bug 813418 - Centralize certificate validation (Part 2 centralize verfification) r=bsmith
# [00:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/95add3006aaf - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Centralize certificate validation (Part 1, tests). r=bsmith
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# [00:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe8c74e402bc - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Centralize certificate validation (Part 4 remove verifycertnow). r=bsmith
# [00:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bcdee03b553 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Centralize certificate validation (Part 3 Getting chain form verify). r=bsmith
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# [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eee1831a1094 - Seth Fowler - Bug 859718 - Don't assume we have mImageRequest in RasterImage::IsDecodeFinished. r=joe
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# [00:58] <vladan> is there an OS-specific newline constant defined somewhere that I can reference from JS code?
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# [00:59] <jhammel> philor: http://www.zazzle.com/what_does_marsellus_wallace_look_like_tshirts-235406202637951888 ?
# [00:59] <@gavin> vladan: why do you need it?
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# [01:00] <vladan> gavin: i'm reviewing a contributor's patch that exports data to system clipboard
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# [01:01] <@gavin> vladan: I don't think we have that
# [01:01] <@gavin> handy anywhere
# [01:01] <@gavin> various places just ifdef it
# [01:02] <vladan> alright
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# [01:02] <vladan> thx
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# [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d02e437f5b48 - Terrence Cole - Bug 860572 - Use Rooted<JSPropertyDescriptor> in XPCComponents; r=bholley
# [01:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c849d14e7f59 - Terrence Cole - Bug 860572 - Allow JSPropertyDescriptor to use Rooted; r=jonco
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# [01:06] <NeilAway> jaws: in bug 846929 why were the cursor styles put in the theme CSS instead of the content CSS?
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# [01:06] <jaws> let me look...
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# [01:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dffc3d85b072 - Trevor Saunders - bug 860027 - remove nsXPConnect::GetInterfaceInfoManager() r=bholley
# [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22369bfc5a25 - Trevor Saunders - bug 860027 - nuke the interface info super manager r=bsmedberg
# [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb7b48e7e7cb - Trevor Saunders - bug 860027 - remove nsXPConnect::mInterfaceInfoManager r=bholley
# [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1549b50183f - Trevor Saunders - bug 860027 - remove XPTIInterfaceInfoManager::EnumerateInterfaces() r=bsmedberg, bholley
# [01:07] <jaws> NeilAway: i didn't catch that mistake. we should fix it though
# [01:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15e370eefa9f - Trevor Saunders - bug 860027 - export a header declaring XPTInterfaceInfoManager r=bsmedberg
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# [01:08] <jaws> NeilAway: did you start filing a bug already? if not i can
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# [01:08] <NeilAway> jaws: no, I wanted to check whether it was a theme problem, but if you say it isn't, we can file a bug
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# [01:09] <jaws> yeah we should file a bug
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# [01:09] <jaws> themes didn't have to specify these cursors before, so we shouldn't add that requirement now
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# [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5100f9d172cf - Norbert Lindenberg - Bug 837950 - Import test402 source files. r=jwalden
# [01:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a79abb6f9f8a - Jeff Walden - Bug 858677 - Fix up code not built by SpiderMonkey to use the newly-changed deletion signatures. r=bholley, r=billm
# [01:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4925a84c57cf - Jeff Walden - Bug 858677 - Make the internal deletion operations not take a strictness argument and a Value*, but rather take a JSBool* -- and let callers handle the
# [01:12] <firebot> property-couldn't-be-deleted (but no error occurred) case. r=jorendorff
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# [01:15] <NeilAway> jaws: wow, that's a lot of bugmail for only 5 CCs ;-)
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# [01:16] <jaws> NeilAway: screenshot? :)
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# [01:16] <NeilAway> jaws: doesn't fit on one screen!
# [01:17] <NeilAway> actually, if I go full screen then it fits
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# [01:24] <@ehsan> terrence: bustage
# [01:24] <Waldo> gaah, I meant to fold those latter two into a single patch :-\
# [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/732e0bc6aff2 - Steve Fink - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 860572) for OSX build breakage
# [01:24] <terrence> ehsan: oh it
# [01:24] * Waldo ponders how to get something that'll force him to fold patches, when he intends to fold them before pushing
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# [01:24] <@ehsan> terrence: looks like sfink beat you to it ;)
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# [01:25] <Waldo> or sfink was terrence's catspaw :-)
# [01:25] <terrence> ehsan: actually, I asked him to do it while installing his tool to backout multiple patches at once, since hg doesn't do this natively apparently
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# [01:30] <philor> cviecco: bustage
# [01:30] <cviecco> yes.. backing outnow
# [01:31] <philor> CLOSED TREE in the commit message
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# [01:35] <bsmith> philor: that looks similar to our old friend!
# [01:35] <Waldo> philor: when it rains, it pours
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# [01:36] <bsmith> but, this time it consistently crashed across 4 builds in the same push this time. Maybe we have found a reproducable test case
# [01:36] <bsmith> cviecco: make sure you save a copy of that exact revision so we can debug that crash. That is a longstanding topcrash on Android
# [01:36] <philor> yeah, interesting, isn't it?
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# [01:38] <sfink> save a copy? everyone who pulls from m-i from now on will have a copy if they remember the magic password "fe8c74e402bc sesame"
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# [01:38] <bsmith> sfink: yes, that's what I mean
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# [01:40] <sfink> bsmith: yes, but I'm a jerk. If I didn't get all pedantic, I'd lose my card.
# [01:40] <philor> bnicholson: did you need a clobber?
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# [01:41] <philor> or a product with a better build system?
# [01:41] <bnicholson> philor: i don't think my patch caused that bustage since i didn't touch strings or resources
# [01:41] <mccr8> maybe we could adopt one or more of the seven build systems that Google removed from Blink
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# [01:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f75ceb00fca9 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Backout 2f47fcb0a648 due to bustage CLOSED TREE
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# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f7ce6fa2cbb - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Backout 95add3006aaf due to bustage CLOSED TREE
# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d5ac3930709 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Backout 7bcdee03b55 due to bustage CLOSED TREE
# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d8ab5822d60 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 813418 - Backout fe8c74e402bc due to bustage CLOSED TREE
# [01:44] <cviecco> philor: backed out
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# [01:50] <philor> cviecco: thanks, and sorry
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# [01:51] <rnewman> philor: that bad landing from gps earlier was because some stuff was landed on Aurora in March, but didn't make it to m-c because a merge didn't happen
# [01:51] <rnewman> so Aurora basically 'regressed' to m-c on the last train
# [01:51] <cviecco> philor: no problem.
# [01:51] <rnewman> I'm going to reland all of the things that got orphaned
# [01:51] <philor> ALL THE THINGS
# [01:51] <rnewman> heh
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# [01:52] <philor> but I just can't pretend I'd care if it was busted, reopened
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# [01:54] <philor> cviecco: please don't cancel stuff on non-Try trees
# [01:55] <cviecco> philor: ok.
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# [01:56] <philor> cviecco: builds break unless you clobber afterward, because they just stop leaving a broken objdir, tests cancel in a funny way when they get coalesced, so that when you think you cancelled a test on your push, you wind up cancelling the test on your backout instead
# [01:56] <jhammel> don't suppose that has a bug
# [01:56] <philor> well, it's a feature
# [01:57] <cviecco> philor, thanks for the explanation.
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# [01:57] <philor> not sure how it could be designed to cancel if it's coalesced into a bad rev, but not cancel if it's coalesced into a good rev
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# [01:58] <philor> and not cancel if you say to cancel while it's pending, but the job gets picked up between when you cancel and when your cancel is processed
# [01:58] <Jesse_> Bas: i changed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825928 to have an alias instead of a summary tag, hope i didn't mess things up
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# [01:59] <@khuey> jhammel: it has a bug, it's probably had no activity in 2 years of course
# [01:59] <jhammel> heh, nor i, OTTOMH ;) though i disagree with the diagnosis of "feature"; perhaps doable, perhaps not, but without a bug i doubt all of the relevent info...
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# [02:00] <Bas> Jesse_: Sounds fine to me!
# [02:00] <jhammel> doesn't really matter...i wouldn't mind a CC but not to the look it up commitment level ;)
# [02:00] <Jesse_> Bas: how do you test "with OMTC" bugs? which prefs?
# [02:00] <Bas> Jesse_: Not really, yet :)
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# [02:01] <Bas> JEsse_: It's on by default everywhere where is was on by default :)
# [02:01] <Jesse_> bas: or am i still waiting for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808425 to be fixed
# [02:01] <Jesse_> Bas: which is where?
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# [02:02] <Bas> Jesse_: Android and B2H
# [02:02] <Bas> *B2G
# [02:03] <Jesse_> Bas: would be nice to have a desktop platform with OMTC because it's so much easier for me to test (+fuzz) on desktop platforms
# [02:03] <philor> oh, look, bustage
# [02:04] <Bas> Jesse_: You can try turning it on on Mac and Linux, it -should- work there.
# [02:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/119c05c4437e - Brian Hackett - Backout 8ba06fb1bba0 (bug 768288).
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# [02:05] <philor> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21835539&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [02:05] <@khuey> jhammel: 658934
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# [02:06] <jhammel> khuey: thanks....though i hope you didn't scour bugzilla for me
# [02:06] <jhammel> khuey: you already have enough reasons to hate me at this point
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# [02:07] <philor> unless that's actually terrence's bustage in another flavor?
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# [02:08] <terrence> philor: yeah, that's me
# [02:08] <philor> k, I think we'll just stay closed for a while
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# [02:10] <terrence> uhg, jsapi.h is being imported in contexts with warn-as-error... well, I guess I'll need to change that standard SM idiom
# [02:10] <@khuey> jhammel: I just searched my email for "clobber cancel"
# [02:11] <jhammel> khuey: coolz, thanks again; actual (very) recent bug activity too
# [02:11] <jhammel> who knew?
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# [02:19] <darkowlzz|afk> felipe, felipe_ ping!
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# [02:20] <felipe> darkowlzz: pong
# [02:20] <darkowlzz> felipe, hi
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# [02:21] <felipe> hello
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# [02:21] <darkowlzz> felipe, I have sent you a mail regarding GSoC and met Matt N yesterday.
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# [02:22] <darkowlzz> Matt N, suggested to start a User page in wiki.mozilla.org
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# [02:23] <darkowlzz> Is it fine to paste the whole proposal in the wiki?
# [02:23] <felipe> darkowlzz: ok. yeah it is, in a user page
# [02:23] <felipe> you can also use etherpad if you prefer
# [02:23] <felipe> but wiki is fine too
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# [02:25] <Gijs> what's the mach equivalent of make check?
# [02:25] <darkowlzz> felipe, so I can post my questions regarding it's implementation in the wiki
# [02:25] <felipe> darkowlzz: yeah
# [02:25] <darkowlzz> Have you read the mail? can we discuss it now?
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# [02:34] <Jesse_> ted, dveditz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859527 is making me sad. so far it hasn't caused me major problems but it's likely to in the future.
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# [03:01] <ekr> Is it safe to run two sets of mochitests in parallel on the same machine?
# [03:01] <ekr> or will there be some resource contention freakout
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# [03:02] <Mossop> ekr: Many mochitests depend on the browser window having focus, it isn't really safe to use any other application while mochitests are running
# [03:03] <ekr> Mossop: I was thinking of using Xvfb so that each instance would get the entire X server (or so it thought)
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# [03:03] <@bz> ekr: mochitest won't let you run two copies of itself last I checked
# [03:03] <@bz> ekr: because they want to bind to the same port
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# [03:04] <ekr> bz: ok, that's what I was afraid of. xvfb is smart enough to find the first free port, but that did seem like a lot to ask
# [03:04] <@bz> ekr: I think we have bugs on it
# [03:04] <@bz> ekr: finding a different port is hard because the url with the port is in the tests...
# [03:04] <@bz> ekr: so they wouldn't work on a different port. ;)
# [03:05] <ekr> bz: right. I can work around it.
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# [03:14] <philor> rnewman: guess what?
# [03:14] <@gavin> bz: I have a vague recollection about you hating the fact that Firefox used a "DOM" prefix for random events (like DOMWillOpenModalDialog)
# [03:14] <@gavin> bz: does that ring a bell?
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# [03:15] <rnewman> philor: goddamnit, I ran those tests
# [03:15] <rnewman> *sigh*
# [03:15] <rnewman> philor: gimme a minute to fix
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# [03:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f7a95537199 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 846122 - Handle split multi-track Cues in nestegg. r=padenot
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# [03:25] <derf> You don't like right shifts?
# [03:26] <derf> (yes, I know what you actually mean)
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# [03:28] <@bz> derf: what annoys me is that I reviewed that patch
# [03:28] <@bz> derf: and it was full of cargo-culted Sequence< int32_t >
# [03:28] <@bz> derf: and I asked to remove those, except in cases when the thing inside was a template...
# [03:29] <@bz> derf: so guess what Sequence< Sequence< nsString > > became?
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# [03:30] <@bz> derf: also, right shifts are ... tricksy
# [03:30] <@bz> derf: try 4000000000 >> 1
# [03:30] <@bz> derf: in JS
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# [03:31] <@bz> derf: Sadly, JS decided to be Java-compatible on its shift operators
# [03:31] <rnewman> philor: fingers crossed that this is the last post-merge weirdness
# [03:32] <@bz> derf: worse yet, 2000000000 << 1 in JS
# [03:32] <@bz> derf: and there is no <<<
# [03:32] <@bz> derf: and of course 1 << 33 == 2. ;)
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# [03:35] <@bz> and neither does clang on my mac. :(
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# [03:36] <Gijs> write once, different warnings everywhere? :)
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# [03:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a0eb8b304eb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 854319 - Part 1: Call BeginDecoding before OnDecodeThreadStart; r=cpearce
# [03:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee39d8eb931f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 854319 - Part 2: Always use a ref pointer when dealing with MediaResource objects; r=cpearce
# [03:51] <cpearce> bz++
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# [03:51] <derf> Sure, _now_ people agree with me on warnings-as-errors.
# [03:52] <@ehsan> in that they're awesome?
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# [03:52] <jduell> bz: do you happen to remember what sort of access child processes get to the prefs service? I seem to remember them being able to read but not write prefs?
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# [03:54] <Jesse_> bz: which warning this time?
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# [03:57] <@ehsan> cpearce: would it make sense to make ~MediaResource protected, to prevent future brokenness such as my nsAutoPtr<MediaResource> not compile?
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# [03:57] <Jesse_> i wonder what the ratio of "we caught a real bug before it got to users / fuzzers / runtime tests" to annoyance is. and how much it can be improved just by keeping gcc/clang up to date and turning off warnings-as-errors for the buggiest warnings.
# [03:57] <cpearce> ehsan: yeah that sounds sensible.
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# [03:58] <@ehsan> cpearce: do I need to do the whole bug ordeal or just land it? ;)
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# [03:58] <cpearce> ehsan: land it in the same bug, r=cpearce. :)
# [03:58] <@ehsan> cool, ty
# [03:59] <@ehsan> I guess I should check if it builds locally first? ;)
# [03:59] <cpearce> Please. ;)
# [03:59] <jcranmer> hmm
# [03:59] <jcranmer> who would be happy to review a 213KB patch?
# [03:59] <@ehsan> cpearce: crap, MediaDecoder::OpenResource delete's a MediaResource* :(
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# [03:59] <jcranmer> :-)
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# [04:00] <jcranmer> who would change their minds if they found out it was a +8/-6182 patch?
# [04:00] <cpearce> ehsan: oh dear.
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# [04:00] <@ehsan> oh dear indeed!
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# [04:01] <cpearce> Good thing you caught that actually.
# [04:01] <@ehsan> hehe
# [04:01] <@ehsan> let's see who calls this
# [04:01] <@bz> Jesse_: virtual functions being hidden
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# [04:01] <@bz> Jesse_: which clang gives... but apparently not in the came cases as gcc
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# [04:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5d6dca5794f - Luis de Bethencourt - Bug 861324 - Remove unneeded mDecoder null check after usage. r=joedrew
# [04:04] <@ehsan> cpearce: so.. MediaCache holds a raw ChannelMediaResource pointer
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# [04:05] <@ehsan> cpearce: so what's the ownership model of MediaResource? do whatever you like and hope for the best? ;)
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# [04:06] <@ehsan> cpearce: it seems like the only code which now relies on refcounting is Web Audio
# [04:06] <cpearce> ehsan: WMF relies on refcnting MediaResource too
# [04:07] <@ehsan> ok, that makes two of us!
# [04:07] <@ehsan> cpearce: I guess I'll just file a follow-up for now :/
# [04:07] <cpearce> ehsan: yeah... we should get onto fixing this...
# [04:08] <tbsaunde> $/win 47
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# [04:08] <Mavericks> can someone check chive.com on ff release 19.02 or above in safe mode or without any extensions ? is it resource intensive ?
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# [04:10] <Mavericks> may be select the funny section with lots of images
# [04:10] <Mavericks> on the page and let it load completely to scroll
# [04:12] * philor can't imagine trying to load it without adblock
# [04:12] <philor> presuming you mean thechive.com rather than chive.com
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# [04:13] <Mavericks> philor: sorry yes thechive.com instead
# [04:13] <philor> if you really want pain, throttle down your connection, so that the hundreds of things it loads are all fighting for bandwidth too
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# [04:14] <Mavericks> heh yes it shot up by 100k in memory when i'm on one page. browsing other sections to see if it's just me. thanks to adblock tho
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# [04:35] <bajaj> ttaubert: can you please request uplift nomination per https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845681#c25
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# [04:54] <@bz> philor: hmm?
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# [04:54] <@bz> philor: It was in gold?
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# [04:54] <philor> bz: worse, it was in webm reftests
# [04:54] <@bz> lol
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# [04:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b42c56707a7a - Matthew Gregan - Backout 5f7a95537199 (bug 846122).
# [04:57] <kinetik> philor: thanks
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# [04:58] <philor> heh, I was still trying to come up with one more lame joke for the backout commit message
# [04:59] <kinetik> aw, i should have waited.
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# [05:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ee0e740dc62 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 859657 (part 1) - Don't measure MEMORY_EXPLICIT in telemetry because it can cause pauses. r=jlebar.
# [05:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02629c5c6d68 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 859657 (part 2) - Remove nsIMemoryMultiReporter.explicitNonHeap because it's more trouble than it's worth; also remove the "explicit" single reporter.
# [05:10] <firebot> r=jlebar.
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# [05:33] <philor> njn: does Android suck, or did you break it?
# [05:34] <philor> s/Android/everything/
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# [05:35] <jhammel> philor: that's an and/or question?
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# [05:36] <njn> philor: that's what I get for doing a debug-only try run :( https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2cf169e409cd
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# [05:38] <philor> saving tryserver resources is fun!
# [05:38] <@bz> 78 SettingsListener.observe('debug.ttl.enabled', false, function(value) {
# [05:38] <@bz> 79 !!value ? TTLView.show().bind(TTLView) : TTLView.hide().bind(TTLView);
# [05:38] <@bz> 80 });
# [05:38] <njn> philor: it's a simple fix, ok if I land it?
# [05:38] <@bz> goddamned gaia
# [05:38] <philor> CLOSED TREE
# [05:39] <philor> (which is how I spell Yes)
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# [05:39] <philor> (and also how I spell goddamned gaia)
# [05:39] <njn> philor: ok, I'll just let my local build get a bit further
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# [05:40] <@bz> mmmm, broken mxr for gaia
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# [05:41] <@bz> bastards
# [05:41] <@bz> _and_ the added this recently
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# [05:44] <njn> philor: fingers crossed
# [05:44] <njn> and sorry
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# [05:49] <tbsaunde> bz: do I want to know what's wrong with that bit of gia?
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# [05:51] <@bz> tbsaunde: well, what do you think it does? ;)
# [05:51] <@bz> tbsaunde: As a hint, show() and hide() contain no return statements.
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# [05:53] <@bz> and of course it's gaia
# [05:53] <@bz> which makes fixing it extra-fun
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# [05:57] <Mook> bz: there's the "use the github web interface, just type, and make a pull request without ever testing anything" option...
# [05:57] <@bz> Mook: and then what?
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# [05:58] <Mook> and see it rot forever? :p
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# [05:58] <@bz> Mook: No comment.
# [05:58] <@bz> Mook: A bigger problem is that even getting your patch into gaia master means nothing if it's blocking something else.
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# [06:10] <tbsaunde> would somebody mind looking at http://mzl.la/17gy77F and checking my push was the one that caused the regression?
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# [06:17] <@bz> tbsaunde: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1549b50183f ?
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# [06:17] <@bz> tbsaunde: sure seems to have.....
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# [06:18] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, and that's the commit I expected
# [06:18] <tbsaunde> bz: thanks, I think I know the fix
# [06:18] <Gijs> bz: how much do you know about custom event + xbl security? :)
# [06:20] <Gijs> <video> statistics break on nightly because getting e.detail inside XBL throws a security exception for an event created by chrome code.
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# [06:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbb94129fec6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 834513 - Part 1: Refactor WebAudioDecodeJob::GetJSContext into AudioContext; r=roc
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# [06:26] <@bz> Gijs: You want bholley
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# [06:26] <Gijs> bz: that's what I feared. :(
# [06:26] <@bz> Gijs: That said, what is e.detail ?
# [06:26] <Gijs> well, actually, I just realized it throws for e.isTrusted, too
# [06:26] <@bz> Gijs: curious
# [06:26] <Gijs> so any accessing of the event object = fail
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# [06:27] <@bz> Gijs: Yeah, bholley
# [06:27] * Gijs will see if magic wrapper unwrapping is available and solves this
# [06:27] <Gijs> mm
# [06:27] <@bz> Gijs: I could sorth through it, but he'd have this at the top of his head
# [06:27] <Gijs> bz: sure, that's OK.
# [06:27] * Gijs will try tomorrow
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# [06:27] <Gijs> (as he doesn't seem to be around? I guess I actually have 0 idea in which timezone he is)
# [06:28] <@bz> I believe he's in Pacific time
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# [06:28] <Gijs> Ah, alright
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# [06:28] <Gijs> Not in the Mountain View office, or?
# [06:28] * Gijs should say hello
# [06:28] <Gijs> phonebook is inconclusive
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# [06:31] <Gijs> 's OK, will poke tomorrow. Thanks a lot for the help! :)
# [06:31] <njn> bz: I thought he was in France?
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# [06:35] <@bz> njn: but I thought he was back now
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# [06:35] <@bz> tbsaunde: fwiw, heading to bed....
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# [07:35] <darktrojan> Optimizer, this bug about window state seems to be something to do with the centerscreen flag
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# [07:39] <Optimizer> darktrojan: what centerscreen flag ?
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# [07:40] <darktrojan> this one http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/devtools/framework/ToolboxHosts.jsm#213
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# [07:40] <darktrojan> if I run the same code without it, works fine
# [07:40] <Optimizer> but it works fine on windows.
# [07:41] <Optimizer> that flag is needed
# [07:41] <Optimizer> without it, the first time window will appear left top
# [07:42] <darktrojan> I know
# [07:42] <Optimizer> weird
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# [07:46] <darktrojan> hmm I see the same thing on winxp
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# [07:47] <Optimizer> can you try on windows 7 ?
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# [07:49] <darktrojan> trying now
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# [07:49] <darktrojan> just have to get through the dialog box hell that is installing firefox
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# [07:53] <darktrojan> Optimizer, same behaviour on win7
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# [07:54] <Optimizer> its working fine here. I wonder whats the issue
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# [07:54] <darktrojan> try this in scratchpad http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2309723
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# [07:57] <Optimizer> darktrojan: in safe mode, I can reproduce
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# [07:58] <darktrojan> so it's you not me :-P
# [07:58] <Optimizer> haha
# [07:58] <Optimizer> I wonder what change is fixing it with me
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# [07:59] <darktrojan> on that note I'm going to go, will think about it more later
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# [08:15] <firebot> Check-in:
# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3581b3d60886 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 860253. Clear clip state on children of an nsDisplayTransform because they're in a different coordinate system, and we'll clip the nsDisplayTransform itself.
# [08:15] <firebot> r=mattwoodrow
# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64abee9b00f1 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 841363. Ensure padding-rect edges are included in scrollable area used to compute scrollWidth/scrollHeight for overflow:visible elements. r=matspal
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# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cff9eab960e3 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 860579. Make FindContentInDocument use the frame tree as much as possible. r=mattwoodrow
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# [08:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d390c8c21882 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 849996. Check the correct frame for transforms in PushAbsoluteContainingBlock --- it might not be the containing block itself. r=bzbarsky
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# [09:02] <heycam> glandium, your inbound push went red
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# [09:11] <ewong> should the tree be closed?
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# [09:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cadf6ac01be - Mike Hommey - Backout changeset 0ff383d4a899 (bug 861453) for universal builds bustage
# [09:16] <heycam> glandium, if you're landing a fix, can you backout 64abee9b00f1 at the same time? that's probably the orange from roc's push.
# [09:17] <Ms2ger> heycam, too late :)
# [09:17] <heycam> glandium, if you're quick you can coalesce ;)
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# [10:16] <snowmantw> #introduction
# [10:16] <snowmantw> oh no
# [10:16] <snowmantw> sorry
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# [10:19] <heycam> looks like my push has also got a failure :\
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# [10:20] <Ms2ger> Did I open the tree prematurely?
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# [10:20] <heycam> s/easy/ easy fix/
# [10:21] <heycam> Ms2ger, I think so… we don't know if the backout of roc's patch worked yet
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# [10:23] <smontagu> Ms2ger: I could use your help understanding the failures in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=5d288a375e7b
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# [10:23] <smontagu> specifically in dom/imptests/html/html/dom/elements/global-attributes/test_document-dir.html
# [10:23] <Ms2ger> smontagu, no failure there :)
# [10:23] <smontagu> unexpected pass, then :)
# [10:23] <Ms2ger> Note "TEST-UNEXPECTED-PASS"
# [10:24] <Optimizer> how to open/close a tree ?
# [10:24] <smontagu> but I don't see where the test defines expected failure
# [10:24] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/imptests/failures/html/html/dom/elements/global-attributes/test_document-dir.html.json?force=1
# [10:24] * smontagu also wants s/sting/string/, unless a LOTR reference is intended
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# [10:25] <Ms2ger> Optimizer, treestatus.mozilla.org
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# [10:26] <smontagu> Ms2ger: and anyway the empty sting test looks to me like a bug in the test
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Possible!
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# [10:26] <smontagu> I don't see from the spec that hasAttribute on an empty string should return false
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# [10:28] <Ms2ger> Looks like I was wrong, yes
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# [10:29] <smontagu> ok, i'll send you a review request with the changes to the tests
# [10:29] <smontagu> but probably not today, I'm not even supposed to be working, it being independence day and all
# [10:30] <Ms2ger> Just change the expected failure, I'm fixing the test upstream :)
# [10:30] <smontagu> fn
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# [10:38] <jlebar> taras: Do you know if we run telemetry in b2g?
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# [10:41] <jlebar> Yoric: thanks.
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# [10:48] <vd> tbsaunde: hi
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# [10:52] <fox2mike> who's the sheriff
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# [10:52] <Ms2ger> Me
# [10:52] <Ms2ger> fox2mike, what's up?
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# [10:53] <fox2mike> Ms2ger: hey dude, how is tbpl looking?
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# [10:53] <fox2mike> Ms2ger: we have some network issues b/w phx1 and scl3
# [10:53] <fox2mike> so I'm not too sure how that impacts tbpl etc
# [10:53] <fox2mike> just looking for a health check at this point
# [10:53] <Ms2ger> It's looking terrible, but I don't see network issues on first sight
# [10:55] <fox2mike> Ms2ger: haha, okay. let me know if you see anything like that.
# [10:55] <Ms2ger> Will do :)
# [10:55] <fox2mike> thanks!
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# [10:56] <tbsaunde> vd: hey
# [10:56] <vd> tbsaunde: just prepared a new patch
# [10:57] <tbsaunde> vd: cool
# [10:57] <vd> but I was wondering if I could run those tests that failed myself to confirm that the problem is fixed and that no other problems occur
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# [10:58] <tbsaunde> vd: sure, run mochitest-a11y
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# [10:58] <Ms2ger> ./mach mochitest-a11y
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# [10:59] <vd> Ms2ger: thanks, was just going to ask where is that executable mochitest-a11y :)
# [10:59] <Ms2ger> :p
# [11:00] <vd> Ms2ger: hmm, ok, where is the ./mach executable
# [11:00] <vd> ?
# [11:00] <Ms2ger> top of mozilla-central
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# [11:00] <vd> j:~/m/firefox-obj$ find ./ -name mach -type f
# [11:00] <vd> j:~/m/firefox-obj$
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# [11:00] <Ms2ger> Source dir
# [11:00] <vd> ah, it is in the source tree
# [11:00] <vd> running...
# [11:01] <vd> it failed, let me dechiper the output...
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# [11:01] <vd> is it supposed to succeed?
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# [11:02] <Ms2ger> In general, I'd hope yes
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# [11:04] <vd> Ms2ger: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2309988
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# [11:04] <Ms2ger> Error: no display specified
# [11:04] * Ms2ger frowns
# [11:05] <Ms2ger> vd, can you try ./mach -v mochitest-a11y?
# [11:05] <vd> ok, it needs to have a display
# [11:05] <tbsaunde> vd: are you running outside of X?
# [11:05] <vd> I do not have $DISPLAY set
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# [11:05] <Ms2ger> Ah, that's probably it, then
# [11:05] <vd> it is over ssh, let me run ssh with X forward
# [11:05] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: s/probably/definitely/ ;)
# [11:05] <vikash> hi Everyone, I am Vikash Agrawal, a Mozilla Rep and Contributor. Last year I was a GSoC participant under the rocking team of MDN. I have a small questions. I am doing quite a bit of front end development but from work/job perspective I am looking forward to prepare for interviews. Can any one please help me on how to prepare for Front End Development profiles. So far I do at vouch https://github.com/darcyclarke/Front-end-Developer-Interv
# [11:05] <vikash> iew-Questions
# [11:05] <Ms2ger> Want to file a bug to make that error message more obvious, btw?
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# [11:06] <vd> Ms2ger: indeed :)
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# [11:07] <vd> I noticed "Error: no display specified" myself but decided that this is not the main problem since it continued printing other errors after that
# [11:08] <tbsaunde> the rest of it isn't actually errors...
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# [11:08] <Ms2ger> Well, the leaks are somewhat of an error
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# [11:10] <tbsaunde> I didn't notice it actually leaked
# [11:10] <Ms2ger> heycam|away, is foreignObject-fixedpos-01.html on android you too?
# [11:10] <vd> Ms2ger: now a new window pops up that contains this: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2309994 and it seems to be not doing anything
# [11:10] <Ms2ger> Hrm
# [11:11] <vd> ^C
# [11:11] <Ms2ger> That Should Not Happen(TM)
# [11:11] <vd> :)
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# [11:11] <vd> Some suspicious output, let me pastebin it...
# [11:11] <Ms2ger> Oh no, that looks like roc...
# [11:12] <vd> actually, I did hg pull && hg update, but did not recompile, could that be the reason? Let me recompile first...
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# [11:12] <vd> it takes a few mins
# [11:12] <jfkthame> that could certainly be a problem, yes
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# [11:13] <vd> ok, just for the records: here is the whole output: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2310003 (I pressed ^C at line 72.)
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# [11:19] <jfkthame> fox2mike: i can't seem to push to aurora at the moment, would that likely be your network issues?
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# [11:19] <jfkthame> oh, now it's finally gone through… took ages, though
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# [11:20] <fox2mike> unlikely
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# [11:20] <fox2mike> Ms2ger: netowrk issuess have been fixed, should be okay now
# [11:20] <Ms2ger> fox2mike, thanks!
# [11:21] <fox2mike> issues*
# [11:21] <fox2mike> yw!
# [11:21] <jfkthame> ok, thx - looks like just asking here was enough to unblock my push, anyhow
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# [11:27] <vd> Ms2ger: could some tests be run without $DISPLAY being set?
# [11:28] <vd> if not, then maybe it makes sense to cancel the execution right from the start if we detect that $DISPLAY is not set in the env
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# [11:29] <tbsaunde> vd: atleast things like jit tests and xpcshell tests don't need X
# [11:29] <Ms2ger> vd, you mean, before trying to run the build? Probably makes sense for mochitests
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# [11:29] <vd> tbsaunde: ok, then should not cancel right from the start
# [11:30] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: well, you could get --display <whatever> passed through the test runner to firefox, but I don't have a use case on the top of my head for that
# [11:30] <vd> Ms2ger: I mean from inside ./mach which is a short py script
# [11:30] <Ms2ger> vd, runtests.py would be better than mach
# [11:30] <gabor> any estimation on when will be inbound open again?
# [11:31] <Ms2ger> When it's green
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# [11:32] <Ms2ger> At least Android R4 needs to pass
# [11:32] <Ms2ger> And then someone needs to star all those
# [11:33] <gabor> Alright I'll try it again in the evening then I guess
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# [11:35] <Ms2ger> So the R4 failures appeared on roc's push and didn't go away with heycam's backout of roc's changeset...
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# [11:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c596ffafa29 - Ms2ger - Backout changesets 3581b3d60886, cff9eab960e3, d390c8c21882 for Android foreignObject-fixedpos-01.html failures on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [11:42] <glandium> is it me or there are a lot of sync problems this week
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# [11:44] <jdm> glandium: I've been seeing a bunch too
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# [11:46] <Matt> is there really no extension that uses nsIEventListenerService to track dangling event listeners?
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# [11:53] <vd> Ms2ger, tbsaunde: I opened Bug 862265
# [11:53] <vd> Print a better error message from ./mach if $DISPLAY is not set
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# [11:59] <Matt> could maybe integrate it into the DOM Inspector
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# [12:02] <@roc> hmm
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# [12:21] <@dbaron> jlebar, what was the bug you were going to file about? (And did you file it?)
# [12:21] <jlebar> dbaron: Haven't filed it yet.
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# [12:32] <annevk> why is everyone awake at such weird times?
# [12:32] <annevk> are you all in Madrid? :)
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# [12:41] <Yoric> Where can I find documentation/specs for notation | function(a) a*a | in JavaScript?
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# [12:44] <gcp> http://www.heise.de/security/dienste/Copy-Paste-Tricks-1842691.html
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# [12:45] <gcp> copypasting the ls line does not do what you think it does
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# [12:46] <darktrojan> yes it does
# [12:46] <darktrojan> :)
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# [12:50] <Osaka> Hello, do you have a gsoc channel, or do you use this one?
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# [12:51] <Osaka> nvm, I used my brain and read the page :)
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# [12:59] <darktrojan> has someone been hacking on print preview lately?
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# [13:01] <missa1> Hi, I am new here to open source bug fixing. Can I get some guidance as to where I should start from?
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# [13:03] <@smaug> missa1: #introduction might be a better place
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# [13:04] <Osaka> missa1: Join #introduction and have a look at this http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/
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# [13:05] <missa1> yes I am o #introduction but no one is replying to me and thank you for the link osaka
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# [13:27] <glandium> can't the tree be reopened?
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# [13:33] <jfkthame> looks like it could use some starring love
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# [13:34] <mak> I think the last backout was for android and it's not yet complete
# [13:35] <mak> nvm, R4 is complete
# [13:36] <aja> sheriff's still lunching, i think
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# [13:39] <gabor> smaug: Hi, can I ask what is this about? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsContentUtils.cpp#3074
# [13:39] <@smaug> looking
# [13:39] <@smaug> gabor: I want to see that useful warning
# [13:39] <@smaug> which other people don't like
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# [13:40] <gabor> ehh... whatever :)
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# [13:45] <jdm|f00ding> I've got an old hg patch thta modifies a file that is no longer present in the repository
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# [13:45] <jdm|f00ding> however, hg log --removed missing_file doesn't show me anything
# [13:45] <jdm|f00ding> this leads me to suspect that it's been moved
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# [13:45] <jdm|f00ding> hg log --follow missing_file doeesn't
# [13:45] <jdm|f00ding> er, gives me an error
# [13:45] <jdm|f00ding> any idea how I can determine what happened to the file?
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# [13:47] <jdm> oh, psyke
# [13:47] <jdm> the patch is for a repository where the file exists
# [13:47] <vd> tbsaunde: still here?
# [13:47] <jdm> nevermind
# [13:49] * RyanVM looks at inbound
# [13:49] <RyanVM> should have just stayed in bed this morning
# [13:49] <gabor> lol
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# [13:51] <jfkthame> no edmorley today, i believe, so what can you expect?
# [13:51] <RyanVM> yep
# [13:51] <jfkthame> at least ms2ger has kept it closed much of the time
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# [13:51] <RyanVM> the guy felt that having somewhere to live was more important than coming to work today
# [13:51] <RyanVM> Ms2ger++
# [13:51] <jfkthame> otherwise, just imagine the chaos you'd see
# [13:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e5de739f53ba - Eric Chou - Bug 861085 - Enable/Disable Bluetooth based on mozSettings value at startup, r=gyeh, r=qdot
# [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3fdae5870de1 - Michael Wu - Bug 840315 - Change default serif and sans serif fonts on gonk, r=jfkthame a=blocking-leo
# [13:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7948de900426 - Gina Yeh - Bug 857896 - Convert device property "Connected" into a boolean if bluez returns a two-byte array, r=echou,qdot
# [13:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a228816895fd - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
# [13:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8e4cbef11f0d - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 840315 - Emulator update for font support, r=mwu
# [13:52] <@roc> inbound tip is green
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# [13:53] <RyanVM> 19 unstarred failures tells me it stills needs cleanup
# [13:53] <vd> Can I assume that "./mach mochitest-a11y" has passed if its exit code is 0? (some of the printed messages contain "ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL")
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# [13:53] <jfkthame> it was over 40 a few minutes ago, but i threw a handful of stars at it
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# [13:54] <RyanVM> yay, nightlies are burning on m-c and aurora too
# [13:54] <RyanVM> aus3 issues
# [13:55] <aja> there were network issues with aus3 earlier
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# [13:56] <jfkthame> vd: that doesn't sound good… not sure what mach does about exit codes, but there shouldn't be UNEXPECTED-FAIL messages afaik
# [13:56] <aja> scratch that re: aus3.....twas phx1 and scl3
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# [13:57] <vd> jfkthame: so this means something is wrong: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2310239 ?
# [13:58] <RyanVM> yay, a new inbound leak too
# [13:58] <RyanVM> aja: the m-c builds just burned a few minutes ago
# [13:59] <jfkthame> vd: probably - i'm not familiar with the test_visibility.html test, but if it says it failed, then something's presumably wrong
# [13:59] <vd> I see
# [13:59] <jfkthame> vd: the textattrs/test_general.html test might be sensitive to what fonts you actually have installed
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# [14:00] <vd> Maybe I do not have DejaVu Serif installed
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# [14:00] <jfkthame> vd: one thing i'd probably do is to try running the same test with an unpatched build that is known to pass on tbpl, to see whether the failures are due to somethoing about your local environment
# [14:00] <jfkthame> s/thoing/thing/
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# [14:01] <vd> jfkthame: right, if it fails with unpatched then the problem is not introduced by the patch
# [14:02] <jfkthame> right - if you see the same failure(s) there, then they're presumably not due to your patch but some other factor - it might still be interesting/useful to investigate them, but unrelated to whatever you're currently doing
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# [14:16] <NeilAway> RyanVM: he should live in the office. problem solved, and 24 hour sherriffing too ;-)
# [14:17] <RyanVM> damn straight
# [14:17] <RyanVM> i live in MY office
# [14:19] <reuben> RyanVM: is birch for blocking-b2g:+ only, or all work week landings?
# [14:20] <RyanVM> reuben: all
# [14:20] <reuben> cool
# [14:20] <RyanVM> no a= needed :)
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# [14:23] <reuben> uh… any reason why birch doesn't echo the cset URL on push?
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# [14:24] <RyanVM> because releng never set it up to
# [14:24] <RyanVM> just grab it from tbpl
# [14:24] <RyanVM> https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/rev/25ff97949e71
# [14:25] <RyanVM> i believe that's what you want :)
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# [14:25] <reuben> yea, I did, I was just wondering. copying from the push output is convenient :P
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# [14:26] <RyanVM> yes it is :)
# [14:26] <RyanVM> i would have complained, but since we're only using it for the week, I decided not to bother
# [14:26] <Ms2ger> Ah, RyanVM
# [14:26] <Ms2ger> Any reason not to reopen inbound?
# [14:27] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: I plan to in a sec
# [14:27] <Ms2ger> Ooh, burning nightlies
# [14:27] <RyanVM> I have an m-c merge to push
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# [14:27] <RyanVM> and I don't want to be push raced
# [14:27] <Ms2ger> Heh
# [14:28] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: thanks for keeping an eye on things this morning :)
# [14:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7948de900426 - Gina Yeh - Bug 857896 - Convert device property "Connected" into a boolean if bluez returns a two-byte array, r=echou,qdot
# [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5de739f53ba - Eric Chou - Bug 861085 - Enable/Disable Bluetooth based on mozSettings value at startup, r=gyeh, r=qdot
# [14:28] <Ms2ger> Well, since you're here, I yield my sheriffness to you :)
# [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a228816895fd - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
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# [14:28] <RyanVM> heh
# [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e4cbef11f0d - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 840315 - Emulator update for font support, r=mwu
# [14:28] <RyanVM> doesn't work that way, Ms2ger
# [14:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09f78adf4e79 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [14:29] <Ms2ger> :)
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# [14:29] <Ms2ger> I've got to give a lecture about right now :)
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# [15:22] <bsmedberg> RyanVM: yt?
# [15:22] <RyanVM> hi
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# [15:23] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
# [15:23] <bsmedberg> RyanVM: bug 852429 is misclassified (should be DOM) and I was going to move it
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# [15:23] <RyanVM> ok?
# [15:23] <bsmedberg> RyanVM: but I'm looking through it and trying to figure out if any of those were debug builds, or just opt builds
# [15:23] <bsmedberg> is there a way to tell from the comments whether it's debug or opt?
# [15:23] <RyanVM> it's both
# [15:24] <RyanVM> just "build" is opt
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# [15:24] <RyanVM> "leak test build" is debug
# [15:24] <ttaubert> Yoric: si?
# [15:24] <RyanVM> and the debug builds show the exception in the tbplbot comment
# [15:25] <Yoric> ttaubert: We have a conversation scheduled regarding OOP thumbnails. Would you be available in ~1/2h?
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# [15:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fa225a54135 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861281 - GC: Root the wrap object API r=terrence r=bholley
# [15:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76f7d7963692 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861912 - GC: Remove use of AUTO_MARK_JSVAL in XPConnect r=bholley
# [15:26] <ttaubert> Yoric: we do? I'd be available, yeah
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# [15:27] <jdm> RyanVM: when a patch is backed out for b2g failures, those all occur on device, yes?
# [15:27] <jdm> we don't run any automated tests on desktop b2g?
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# [15:28] <RyanVM> jdm: we run emulator mochitest, reftests, crashtests, xpcshell, and marionette
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# [15:28] <RyanVM> jdm: we run marionette on desktop builds as well
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# [15:28] <jdm> hmm, emulator
# [15:28] <RyanVM> jdm: we don't run tests on any physical hardware atm
# [15:28] <jdm> guess I need to do another build
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# [15:29] <RyanVM> the emulator builds run in aws
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# [15:29] <gerv> jhford: Yes :-)
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# [15:29] <jhford> hey, you know about the bzapi, right ;)
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# [15:29] <jhford> i am trying to change a 'tracking flag', but I'm having trouble
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# [15:31] <jhford> gerv: so i'm fetching the bug data, then updating the value of the flag I'm trying to change (cf_status_b2g18)
# [15:31] <jhford> when I post, it's not updating the flag
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# [15:31] <gerv> jhford: I'm the BzAPI guy.
# [15:31] <jhford> yup!
# [15:32] <gerv> jhford: Can you PM me a sample JSON blob you are sending?
# [15:32] <jhford> sure!
# [15:33] <jhford> gerv: safe to leave the token in the paste?
# [15:33] <gerv> Yes.
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# [15:35] <jhford> || u'cf_status_b2g18': 'fixed' || is the part that I care about
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# [15:35] <gerv> You say you can update other fields, but not that one?
# [15:35] <_AxS_> hey all - so i've been tasked with trying to integrate this patch ( http://bpaste.net/show/91772/ ) into m-c, but so that its functionality is applied dynamically via a prefs.js setting rather than statically via #ifdef's ... I need some advice on how to best handle the link-time differences, anyone have any ideas?
# [15:36] <jhford> gerv: i've not tried any other fields, but adding comments through this method is working
# [15:36] <jhford> oh, wait, i'm using post not put
# [15:36] <jhford> could that cause it?
# [15:36] <RyanVM> lol @ bug 862224 - now THAT'S how to sell phones!
# [15:36] <gerv> Er, yes.
# [15:36] <gerv> POST is for new bugs.
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# [15:37] <mcsmurf> RyanVM: heh
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# [15:38] <jhford> gerv: i'm now getting a 405
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# [15:38] <gerv> Are you PUTting to the right URL?
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# [15:38] <jhford> urgh, nope!
# [15:38] <jhford> i'm trying to post a bug to /comment
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# [15:42] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: check https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Code_snippets/Preferences for some basic usage examples
# [15:43] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: see http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/base/src/nsStatusBarBiffManager.cpp#65 for a C++ example how to get a bool pref
# [15:43] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: that's just some random example from our code, there are many more usages of it
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# [15:43] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: Thanks; i've got some basic code handling of the preferences but i don't know if it's correct so i'll check these out to compare.
# [15:45] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: the main thing I need advice on though is how to handle the bits in the patch that change the build system (ie, the changes to the build sub-targets , addition of hunspell cpp files directly into spellchecker object, etc)
# [15:45] <jhford> gerv: ok! thanks for the course correction, it's working and updating everything
# [15:45] <jhford> turns out I was making at least 4 stupid mistakes :(
# [15:45] <jhford> sorry for the noise
# [15:46] <gerv> You're welcome :-)
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# [15:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3fe83ef26e3 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 815905 - Dynamically open OpenSLES libary if available. r=jesup
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# [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6bcebfff086 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 835716 - Enable building of WebRTC on Android by default. r=ted
# [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/490573bc3a7c - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 861637 - Add workaround for missing clone function. r=blassey
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# [15:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc114c0cf8a7 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 815905 - Provide JNI as a fallback if OpenSLES opening fails. r=jesup
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# [15:47] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: dunno what mozHunspell.cpp does exactly :)
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# [15:48] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: hunspell is the main spellchecker library on linux and others. mozHunspell is the glue that makes it work for mozilla.
# [15:48] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: if adding files to the build process "breaks" other things mainly depends on what this file does
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# [15:49] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: the firefox codebase uses separate external hunspell by default, this patch allows ff et al to use it natively instead, thus (in static application) dropping a bunch of unnecessary extra stuffs
# [15:49] <mcsmurf> for example implementing an interface and such (I think..)
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# [15:51] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: if, for instance, Windows had a global dictionary for spellcheck (dunno, maybe it does now?) this patch would effectively be the same as making firefox use it instead of havin to handle and use its own separate one (assuming I understand the purpose of the patch properly)
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# [15:55] <bsmedberg> I cannot believe I just cc'ed myself on an intermittent-orange bug
# [15:55] <bsmedberg> blech
# [15:55] <@ted> boo
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# [15:56] <_AxS_> actually I should probably rephrase my question.. I know that I can make it work, what I don't know is what form of patch (moving files around, etc) would be accepted. So i'm looking for guidance so that I don't do this one way only to find out i should've done it another way. IE, should I move source files around? keep the structure as-is ? still integrate the #ifdef so this change can be disabled at compile-time? etc etc
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# [15:59] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: do you know who would review your patch?
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# [16:00] <mcsmurf> _AxS_: on disable at compile time: I would say that also depends on how much bigger the final binary ends up
# [16:00] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: not off hand; glandium because there's going to be build system changes; probably ted as well.. there's a bug for this, I just can't access it until my ff finishes compiling
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# [16:01] <mcsmurf> and how likely this feature is to be used in FF by default
# [16:01] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: this patch actualy reduces size rather than increasing it
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# [16:01] <glandium> mcsmurf: very unlikely
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# [16:01] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: and i believe it would be default-enabled for linux and probably osx. it doesn't apply for windows afaik
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# [16:02] <mcsmurf> (note: I'm only giving quite general advice here, I'm really not that familiar with spellcheck and build system :)
# [16:02] <_AxS_> mcsmurf: and I appreciate it. :)
# [16:02] <_AxS_> glandium: this one will take very little of your time, i promise :)
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# [16:06] <glandium> _AxS_: osx doesn't have a system library for hunspell ; linux might, but that depends whether the package is installed or not, and even worse, whether the right version is installed or not. For instance, if you were to build against libhunspell-1.2, that would leave out distros that switched to 1.3. And vice-versa. So this is noy going to be the default on mozilla.org builds
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# [16:09] <gaston> _AxS_: hardcoding /usr/share/myspell is not nice for oses who have it somewhere else :) (ie /usr/local/share/mozilla-dicts/ here)
# [16:09] <_AxS_> glandium: the code failsover automatically if the system hunspell doesn't exist ; and actually i think it's just the dictionaries that are used here, not the engine (or at least, whatever's done for the engine isn't any different than what's done now).. from what I can tell, this patch just adds a "use system dictionaries by preference if it exists")..
# [16:09] <_AxS_> gaston: yeah that's already something I dropped and put into prefs.js
# [16:10] <gaston> cool :) we've been shipping a patch for this since ages.. (http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/www/mozilla-firefox/patches/patch-extensions_spellcheck_hunspell_src_mozHunspell_cpp?rev=1.11;content-type=text%2Fplain)
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# [16:10] <glandium> _AxS_: Your patch does more than adding a directory for dictionaries
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# [16:11] <_AxS_> glandium: yeah it also (from what I understand) cuts out some stuffs that is unnecessary when you have a system dictionary. that part is what i'm fuzzy on for how to deal with.
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# [16:13] <_AxS_> glandium: unfortunately, the (i believe) original author and maintainer of the patch is unavailable for probably a couple of weeks (if not more) so i'm essentially trying to reverse this to make it acceptable for (ideally default) inclusion.
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# [16:14] <_AxS_> glandium: if gaston's version suffices (ie, there isn't any need on our end to cut out the other bits we're doing now), would that be appropriate for default inclusion? if the path was settable via prefs.js ?
# [16:14] <glandium> _AxS_: you don't need the extensions/spellcheck/src/Makefile.in part
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# [16:15] <_AxS_> glandium: i think that's only there because we drop hunspell and locales from SUBDIRS in extensions/spellcheck/Makefile.in ... tbh i don't know why we do that.
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# [16:16] <glandium> _AxS_: dropping hunspell and copying the files is useless
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# [16:18] <glandium> _AxS_, gaston: what i don't understand is why you're going through such hoops. if you just want to use the system dictionaries, just replace the dictionaries directory with a symlink to where you want. that's what i do in debian and it works
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# [16:19] <gaston> symlinks from the basesystem in usr/ to packages in usr/local are sorta verboten :)
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# [16:19] <_AxS_> glandium: in my patch's case, this does a failover; if there is no system hunspell, then the existing code works as-is to use the mozilla dictionaries
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# [16:20] <glandium> _AxS_: if you want a dictionary to be there, make your package depend on one
# [16:20] <Pike> not sure if the system hunspell worked the same way as our ones
# [16:21] <glandium> Pike: it works for me
# [16:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d71598ee2ea - Olli Pettay - Bug 847596 - Paris binding for DeviceMotionEvent, r=peterv
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# [16:21] <Pike> glandium: the library or the dictionaries themselves?
# [16:21] <glandium> Pike: both
# [16:22] <glandium> Pike: the main difference is some terms that are in ours that aren't in system ones
# [16:22] <glandium> arguably, we should get them added
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# [16:23] <_AxS_> glandium: thanks for being the sounding board; first step i';m going to take is to split this patch into what allows ff to build against the system hunspell and then the other patch that allows for a path to the system dictionaries.
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# [16:24] <glandium> _AxS_: ff can already build against system hunspell
# [16:24] <Pike> I thought we had patches to the hunspell lib, but that seems to be fixed by now, I don't find anything documenting those
# [16:25] <_AxS_> glandium: ..there's gotta be some reason why the extra source files are cut out of that hunspell dir...
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# [16:25] <glandium> _AxS_: none
# [16:25] <glandium> _AxS_: besides the self inflicted need because of the change to DIRS
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# [16:26] <glandium> _AxS_: the hunspell lib files are already not built when going in the hunspell directory when building against system libhunspell
# [16:26] <_AxS_> glandium: i don't think the DIRS change would need those files removed..
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# [16:26] <bsmedberg> Am I the one who's "churlish, unworthy, and quite frankly proprietary" in bug 856969?
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# [16:27] <glandium> _AxS_: the DIRS change makes it necessary to build the mozhunspell glue from somewhere else, which is what the copy thing does. But that's just a self inflicted need
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# [16:30] <_AxS_> glandium: ..and that wouldn't require the changes in hunspell/src/ that excludes all the source files that aren't prefixed with 'moz' , plus the additions to CXXFLAGS
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# [16:31] <glandium> _AxS_: there is no such change in http://bpaste.net/show/91772/
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# [16:31] <glandium> _AxS_: hunspell/src/ already excludes non moz source files when building against system hunspell
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# [16:32] <_AxS_> glandium: yep you're right; sorry -- that's part of the build system already.
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# [16:34] <Matt> is there a new-ish pref or something I have to set to get Firefox to report errors in extensions
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# [16:35] <Matt> I've noticed that lately when my extension has a syntax error or throws an exception or something, it mostly just silently fails
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# [16:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba88d9730af6 - Benoit Girard - Bug 734691 - Port multi-thread support to win/mac. r=snorp,smaug
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# [16:40] <mcsmurf> Matt: only the usual ones I think.. (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Setting_up_extension_development_environment#Development_preferences)
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# [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2248290342c9 - Mike Hommey - Bug 861453 - Restore empty substs after bug 857557, but put them in a separate file, unlisted as a dependency for everything. r=gps
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# [16:41] <BenWa> Ahh, Networking: File most likely
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# [16:41] <Matt> will have to get to the bottom ofit
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# [17:22] <_AxS_> finally, FF is finished.. (i need more ram).. OK. bug 429023 is what my patch attempts to resolve. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429023
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# [17:24] <jesup> akeybl: ping
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# [17:25] <jesup> ted: I can't see it being a good idea for mozconfig changes not to cause clobbers. Too much footgun potential
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# [17:25] <@ted> i can't remember the reasoning at this point
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# [17:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11336b456004 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 851630: fix error in patch for bug 758288 that caused improper cancellation of key events in children of autocomplete textboxes, r=dao
# [17:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1f7c708cf42 - Gavin Sharp - bug 862152: remove obsolete xpcom/tests/utils code, r=bsmedberg
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# [17:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a99ad1b3fc24 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 703377: remove now-unused pref override functionality, r=dolske
# [17:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba33b931fe94 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 862186: remove unused import from DebuggerUI.jsm, r=past
# [17:28] <bsmedberg> reuben: pong
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# [17:28] <jesup> ted: you change mozconfig and build. It doesn't re-configure. You aren't testing your change....
# [17:29] <jesup> If you're lucky, you notice, curse, and rebuild
# [17:29] <reuben> bsmedberg: I was wondering what your technical concerns with the patch in bug 860046 are, and whether a different directive in the manifest like "category-pref" or something would be more desirable
# [17:29] <jesup> (after touching configure.in or clobbering)
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# [17:29] <bsmedberg> reuben: I just don't want pref-controlled categories at all, if we can do it in a higher layer
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# [17:29] <bsmedberg> It seems overengineered.
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# [17:30] <dholbert> khuey, do you mind if I land https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857669 on your behalf with a suitable commit message?
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# [17:30] <jesup> If you don't notice, you may not test the changes you intended (like if you switched optimize flags, or debug to opt build, enabled some options that turn on code you wanted to verify, etc)
# [17:30] <reuben> bsmedberg: the higher layer solution we landed is not as elegant and is causing other issues, so that's why I wanted to fix it there
# [17:30] <dholbert> khuey, (or alternately, are you approximately about to land it?)
# [17:31] <bsmedberg> reuben: what about it?
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# [17:31] <Yoric> yzen: ping
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# [17:32] <@bz> Do we update the b2g emulator on some sort of schedule, or do I need to file a bug to get it to happen at all?
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# [17:32] <reuben> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/NavigatorPropertyHelper.js
# [17:32] <bsmedberg> bz: ask myk?
# [17:33] <myk> bz: do you mean the actual emulator or the simulator?
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# [17:33] <@khuey> dholbert: I'm going to land it today
# [17:33] <@ted> i suspect he means the emulator that we run b2g emulator tests in on tbpl
# [17:34] <bsmedberg> reuben: yeah well, that's still doing shit with dynamically adding categories
# [17:34] <@ted> i'd ask jgriffin if he were around
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# [17:34] <davidb> The "Mozilla" theme in bugzilla is awesome!
# [17:34] <@bz> myk: I mean whatever thing it is that the b2g mochitest run on
# [17:34] <reuben> bsmedberg: oh, so you're against doing that at all, I thought the problem was doing it in catMan…
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# [17:34] <myk> bz: ah; that isn't something i know about, unfortunately
# [17:34] <dholbert> khuey, thanks! once you do, I'll land the dependent bug's patches
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# [17:34] <@bz> myk: and in particular, its gaia version
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# [17:34] <@bz> myk: ok, thanks
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# [17:35] <reuben> bsmedberg: okay, thanks. I'll look at the mechanism that hooks up components to navigator/window/etc and see how feasible it is to implement it there
# [17:35] <bsmedberg> reuben: no, I just don't think that we should be doing it. You can have nsScriptNameSpaceManager just check the prefs directly
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# [17:35] <bsmedberg> reuben: e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsScriptNameSpaceManager.cpp#448
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# [17:36] <bsmedberg> just have it honor navigator.property.disable.<name> or something
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# [17:37] <reuben> bsmedberg: yea, I think the original reason why it was done that way was that we wanted to make it work if we change the pref later (in a test), but we can just change the profile used by the tests. thanks!
# [17:38] <bsmedberg> reuben: you could still do that by observing that prefbranch, if it were important
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# [17:46] <@bz> awesome term
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# [17:56] <rillian> what does the site-compat keyword mean?
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# [18:00] <yzen> Yoric: pong
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# [18:00] <Yoric> yzen: hi
# [18:01] <yzen> Yoric: hi
# [18:01] <Yoric> yzen: About bug 845190. How long would it take you to refactor the code so that the test observer is installed only when some preference is set?
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# [18:04] <yzen> Yoric: should not take long, I can have a patch by the morning, your time ?
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# [18:05] <Yoric> yzen: In that case, could you possibly make a patch that groups this and my fixes?
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# [18:06] <yzen> Yoric: sure
# [18:06] <Yoric> Actually, it's not urgent.
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# [18:06] <Yoric> Let me clarify: I wanted to know if you considered it would take much time.
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# [18:07] <Yoric> It's less urgent than bug 845190, so let's open a dependent bug.
# [18:07] <Yoric> I'll even let you open it :)
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# [18:07] <yzen> Yoric: right, so your fixes will be applied separately then ?
# [18:07] <Yoric> yes
# [18:07] <yzen> ok
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# [18:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f322551642d - Kyle Huey - Bug 855276: Diagnostic patch. r=bent
# [18:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e152843b366d - Kyle Huey - Bug 857669: Remove unused traversal method. r=mounir
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# [18:09] <Yoric> yzen: Thanks.
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# [18:18] <dholbert> erm... while running 'hg out': "remote: Could not connect to the LDAP server at ldap://ldap.db.scl3.mozilla.com"
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# [18:18] <dholbert> anyone else?
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# [18:19] <Mossop> dholbert: Same here
# [18:19] <@bz> dholbert: same thing if I hg out on an ssh:// url
# [18:19] <@bz> dholbert: hg out against https works, of course
# [18:19] <mcsmurf> I already had problems like a few hours ago when trying "hg out"
# [18:19] <dholbert> bz, surely you can't actually push to a https URL, though, right?
# [18:19] <mcsmurf> but I thought the IT nagios will surely know of this problem and did not report it :o
# [18:20] <Ms2ger> Tut tut
# [18:20] <RyanVM> dholbert: probably related to the other issues we're having
# [18:20] <mcsmurf> +I
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# [18:20] <Ms2ger> Off to #it
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# [18:20] <RyanVM> we lost a vpn link
# [18:20] <dholbert> Ms2ger, looks like they're aware
# [18:20] <dholbert> Topic for #it is Current issues: VPN issues b/w scl3 and phx1 (Bug 862242)
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# [18:23] <taras> jlebar: we do not
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# [18:23] <jlebar> taras: thanks
# [18:24] <gabor> How is inbound doing? Is it re-opened or not yet?
# [18:24] <taras> jlebar: but we should
# [18:25] <RyanVM> gabor: a fair question :P
# [18:25] <jlebar> taras: Once glandium fixes the bug which would make that dangerous.
# [18:25] <taras> jlebar: i just never had anyone inerested enough in figuring out what that would look like
# [18:25] <RyanVM> gabor; been open for a few hours, though :)
# [18:25] * RyanVM knocks on wood
# [18:25] <taras> jlebar: which bug?
# [18:25] <Ms2ger> Let's close it
# [18:25] <jlebar> taras: bug 850576
# [18:25] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, how is birch doing?
# [18:25] <taras> oh yeah, that bug sucks
# [18:26] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: dying from boredom
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# [18:26] <jdm> our velocity is nowhere near what it was in january
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# [18:27] <gabor> RyanVM: is it time to push my slightly risky patch then? :)
# [18:27] <RyanVM> gabor: sure, why not
# [18:27] <glandium> jlebar: note we don't know for sure if we don't have subtle problem because of that too, unrelated to telemetry
# [18:27] <jlebar> glandium: indeed
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# [18:30] <glandium> jlebar: while you're here, any idea as to how to address that bug?
# [18:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baf184596a7b - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 820170 - Wrapping nodes into documents compartment. r=bholley
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# [18:31] <jlebar> glandium: the part you seem to be stuck on -- b2g build system issues and where to get stlport -- isn't something I know much about.
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# [18:31] <glandium> jlebar: can you poke around you? :)
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# [18:31] <glandium> mwu, maybe?
# [18:31] <jlebar> glandium: I suppose people aren't on IRC much this week, since the network here is so bad.
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# [18:31] <jlebar> I'll poke mwu.
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# [18:32] <glandium> jlebar: thanks
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# [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0536fbab2e8c - Rodrigo Silveira - Bug 854077 - Use radio buttons for "Do Not Track" options and add a neutral option r=ally
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# [18:32] <glandium> why can't we have working networks during work week?
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# [18:33] <mwu> glandium: fwiw I poked around a bit yesterday and saw that we have a static stlport on jellybean but not ics
# [18:33] <mwu> not sure why
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# [18:33] <mwu> wonder if there's anything that would let us kick off a static stlport on ics
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# [18:34] <glandium> mwu: i think my checkout is ics, and i do have static stlport under the prebuilt ndk directories
# [18:34] <glandium> but that sounds fragile to use
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# [18:35] <Soft> Hi. I ran into this weird problem while developing a web app
# [18:35] <Soft> I was writing this trivial method that filters stuff from a collection using underscore.js, etc
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# [18:35] <Soft> The method works great on Chromium but with Firefox it takes forever to finish and it even produces "InternalError: allocation size overflow" error
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# [18:36] <Soft> I really have no idea what could be the cause of it
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# [18:36] <Soft> same problem with nightly
# [18:36] <mwu> glandium: yeah I wouldn't want to use that one
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# [18:37] <mwu> glandium: but by static stlport, I mean one built by the build system
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# [18:37] <mwu> jb builds one, ics doesn't seem to
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# [18:37] <glandium> mwu: it would be easy to add that, though
# [18:37] <mwu> add the ndk one or our own prebuilt one?
# [18:37] <mwu> er
# [18:38] <mwu> our own static stlport rather
# [18:38] <glandium> mwu: note that would be mostly for configure, it wouldn't be used by the actual build
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# [18:38] <Soft> I don't know If I should try to report a bug or something. I'm not sure how I would be able to single out the problem from the whole app
# [18:38] <mwu> ??
# [18:38] <mwu> then.. the ndk one should be fine, no?
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# [18:38] <bsmedberg> jlebar: I'd expect that your idle task might fire once you start an OOP plugin
# [18:38] <glandium> mwu: if the path never changes
# [18:38] <bsmedberg> jlebar: unless you're testing this on B2G?
# [18:38] <ekr> gabor: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2310872
# [18:39] <mwu> glandium: that is not a concern. we are dependent on *all* the unstable parts of gonk/android
# [18:39] <@bz> "Log: No any related logs appeared on adb logcat or console."
# [18:39] * @bz sighs
# [18:39] <@bz> do we not report exceptions in system code to anywhere useful in b2g? :(
# [18:39] <mwu> fixing paths is a minor part of doing an update to a new gonk base
# [18:39] <ekr> sheriffs: impending tree on fire I suspect. ^^
# [18:39] <Gijs> bsmedberg: so I'm looking into doing a compiled test for profile reset, but I'm running into roadblocks before I'm even getting started. Such as: how do I get a reference to the profile service (to make a throwaway profile that I can "migrate" and then remove if tests succeed)?
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# [18:39] <jlebar> bsmedberg: I'm testing in mochitests that I've written for desktop Firefox that simulate certain aspects of b2g
# [18:40] <jlebar> bsmedberg: In particular they do start child processes.
# [18:40] <Gijs> bsmedberg: the only callers I found are in JS, except for nsAppStartup which seems to do (to my mind) highly magical things that rely on it being linked into libxul
# [18:40] <gabor> ekr: ugh... I did a try push, I must have messed something up :( sorry
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> gabor, don't forget CLOSED TREE
# [18:40] <glandium> mwu: are we using the ndk or some other toolchain?
# [18:40] <bsmedberg> jlebar: see my comment in the bug, but chromium message loops hookup was "just enough" and I think it's unlikely that the idletask integration was ever done
# [18:40] <glandium> to build gecko, that is
# [18:40] <Gijs> bholley: ping
# [18:40] <mwu> we're using the toolchain in the prebuilts repo
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# [18:41] <bholley> Gijs: hi
# [18:41] <Gijs> bholley: hi! :)
# [18:41] <gabor> Ms2ger: hmm?
# [18:41] <mwu> which is also used to build the rest of the system
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# [18:41] <Gijs> bholley: thanks for the feedback on that video controls issue. Your remarks regarding the expando are well-taken; jaws told me yesterday the fullscreen issues no longer exist so there might indeed not be a reason to have the expando at all (yay!)
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# [18:42] <@bz> "Trunk orange factor: 4.5 (1305 oranges in 292 test runs)" \o/
# [18:42] <jlebar> bsmedberg: we apparently use it on Android.
# [18:42] <Gijs> bholley: but I'm still struggling to understand the issue with the custom event being fired. This morning I realized we do need to actually verify that the event is trusted, but we can't because accessing the event properties throws security exceptions
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# [18:42] <Gijs> bholley: is there a way around that?
# [18:42] <@gavin> "impending bustage"?
# [18:42] <@bz> mbrubeck: ping
# [18:42] <Ms2ger> bz, more like -o- ;)
# [18:42] <@bz> Ms2ger: well, last week was 5.3
# [18:42] <jlebar> bz: We swallow way too many exceptions in b2g.
# [18:43] <jlebar> bsmedberg: widget/android/nsAppShell
# [18:43] <@bz> Ms2ger: and 3 weeks ago we had "7" as a Q2 goal!
# [18:43] <@bz> ms2ger: so... ;)
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# [18:43] <@bz> jlebar: We sure do
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# [18:43] <Ms2ger> bz, if it keeps going down... ;)
# [18:43] <bsmedberg> Gijs: this is the kind of compiled test that we'd do using gtest and "test libxul"?
# [18:43] <bholley> Gijs: where does the event come from?
# [18:43] <@bz> jlebar: fwiw, my patch to move event listeners to webidl will make us report more
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# [18:43] <bsmedberg> Gijs: if so, you presumably just want to call NS_NewToolkitProfileFactory yourself
# [18:43] <@bz> jlebar: of course that makes it red on try... ;)
# [18:43] <jlebar> bz: lol
# [18:43] <jhammel> Ms2ger: we're trying to see if we can get it to go negative
# [18:44] <jlebar> bz: no good deed...
# [18:44] <Gijs> bsmedberg: it's the kind of thing documented here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Compiled-code_automated_tests
# [18:44] <Gijs> bholley: nsContextMenu.js, so chrome, I think?
# [18:44] <@bz> jlebar: so now I get to file a bug on gaia (done), get it fixed (done)
# [18:44] <froydnj> awesome, our sheriffs have been upgraded to *predict* bustage now? this is better than hardware upgrades
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# [18:44] <@bz> jlebar: then get the new gaia deployed on the tree, I guess
# [18:44] <bsmedberg> Gijs: that's not the kind of test you want
# [18:44] <Gijs> bholley: I guess we need to make it content-accessible there, in some way, but we need to know that it came from chrome rather than content
# [18:44] <@bz> jlebar: then do another try push and see what other places need fixing
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# [18:44] <bsmedberg> you want the new gtest thing
# [18:45] <Gijs> bsmedberg: OK, is there documentation on that? :)
# [18:45] <@bz> jlebar: nothing like a week-long test cycle. ;)
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# [18:45] <bsmedberg> I don't remember
# [18:45] <akeybl> jesup: I'm in Madrid, so email or getting in touch with bajaj/lsblakk will work best
# [18:45] <bholley> Gijs: does .trusted not work?
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# [18:45] <Gijs> bholley: so the code as it is right now attempts to access .isTrusted, and that throws a security exception on trunk and aurora, but not on beta.
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# [18:46] <bholley> Gijs: seems like we should figure out why that is
# [18:46] <bholley> Gijs: it might relate to converting Event to new bindings
# [18:46] <Gijs> bholley: I was hoping you'd know off the top of your head! :D
# [18:46] <bholley> smaug_flu, bz: ^
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# [18:47] <@bz> Event is on new bindings on trunk and aurora
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# [18:47] <@bz> what's the question? ;)
# [18:47] <bholley> bz: accessing isTrusted throws
# [18:47] <till> Ms2ger: I hear the -o- prefix is going away
# [18:47] <@bz> ok
# [18:47] <@bz> in what circumstances?
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# [18:47] <@bz> Wait
# [18:47] <@bz> back up
# [18:47] <@bz> let me explain the biggest change to event stuff. ;)
# [18:47] <@bz> It used to be that events were not wrappercached
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# [18:48] <@bz> so whenever you touched one you'd get an XPCWrappedNative in your scope.
# [18:48] <Gijs> bz: initCustomEvent from chrome, dispatch to <video>, the event listener (added from XBL) gets security exceptions when trying to access properties off the event object
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# [18:48] <@bz> Now events are wrappercached
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# [18:48] <@bz> So once you get a wrapper, that's the wrapper you have
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# [18:48] <@bz> if you create the event in chrome, it's got a chrome object.
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# [18:48] <@bz> If you then dispatch it to content listeners, they presumably get a COW or whatever
# [18:48] <@bz> How are you creating the event?
# [18:49] <bholley> bz: you shouldn't get a COW
# [18:49] <bholley> bz: if it's a DOM object
# [18:49] <@bz> define "DOM object"?
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# [18:49] <bholley> bz: native-backed
# [18:49] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: why did you close inbound exactly?
# [18:49] <bholley> bz: you should get an opaque cross origin wrapper
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# [18:49] <Gijs> bz: bholley: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/videocontrols.xml?rev=24c95448c549&mark=467#466
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# [18:49] <Gijs> Oh, oops, wrong link, sorry
# [18:49] <@bz> bholley: ok. What do they get?
# [18:49] <Gijs> (I mean, relevant, but not what you asked for)
# [18:49] * @smaug_flu notes that CustomEvent doesn't use new bindings but is certainly wrappercached
# [18:49] <bholley> bz: 'they'?
# [18:49] <jesup> Gijs: webrtc has a bunch of compiled unit tests based on gtest (see media/webrtc/signaling/test
# [18:49] <gabor> RyanVM: because of me
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# [18:50] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, because ekr hit a build error
# [18:50] <@bz> bholley: content event listeners
# [18:50] <Gijs> bz: bholley: all I know is it shows up as a Proxy in browser debugger...
# [18:50] <@bz> Gijs: where is the event created?
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# [18:50] <Gijs> bz: getting that, sec
# [18:50] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, which seemed like it would be hit on buildbot too
# [18:50] <gabor> RyanVM: I added an extra assert without ; to my patch it seems after my try runs
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# [18:50] <bholley> bz: I still don't understand the question
# [18:50] <@bz> bholley: ok, opaque wrapper would still haev no isTrusted
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# [18:50] <@bz> bholley: don't worry about it
# [18:50] <Gijs> bz: bholley: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/nsContextMenu.js#1508
# [18:50] <@bz> bholley: the point is, this code is throwing a chrome object into content script
# [18:50] <bholley> bz: right
# [18:50] <@bz> bholley: and that doesn't so much work
# [18:51] <@bz> Gijs: yeah, that code is broken
# [18:51] <bholley> bz: right. So the event needs to be associated with the content DOM
# [18:51] <Ms2ger> gabor, can you push a fix?
# [18:51] <Gijs> bz: bholley: I'm open to other approaches but I'm assuming we don't want content to be able to toggle this functionality
# [18:51] <@bz> Gijs: should use media.ownerDocument.createEvent
# [18:51] <@bz> Gijs: imho
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# [18:51] <bholley> Gijs: what bz said
# [18:51] <Gijs> bz: sure, but then do I get an isTrusted thingy and does that tell the truth? :)
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# [18:51] <Gijs> in other words, can content not do the same?
# [18:51] <gabor> Ms2ger: without backing it out you mean? is that good idea?
# [18:51] <@bz> Gijs: yes
# [18:51] <@bz> Gijs: because xrays
# [18:51] <Ms2ger> bz, new media.ownerDocument.defaultView.CustomEvent()? :)
# [18:52] <Ms2ger> gabor, either fix or backout
# [18:52] <@bz> Ms2ger: no comment
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# [18:52] <@bz> Ms2ger: esp. because our xray story for constructors is ... unclear
# [18:52] <@smaug_flu> Ms2ger: except that dictionaries are broken
# [18:52] <Ms2ger> And what smaug_flu said
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# [18:52] <@bz> In any case, the istrusted is set in dispatchEvent iirc
# [18:52] <Gijs> ahhh, OK.
# [18:52] * @bz is going to fix the dictionary bit
# [18:52] <Gijs> That sounds good.
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# [18:53] <@smaug_flu> var event = media.ownerDocument.createEvent("CustomEvent");
# [18:53] <Gijs> bz: bholley: does that approach work on beta (21) as well?
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# [18:53] <bholley> Gijs: yes
# [18:53] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: gonna grab lunch quick, thanks for watching :)
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# [18:53] <Gijs> Excellent.
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# [18:53] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|lunch, np
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# [18:53] <Gijs> bz: bholley: mtg now, but thanks very much, that was very helpful.
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# [18:53] <bholley> Gijs: glad to have you fixing XBL stuff :-)
# [18:53] <@bz> Gijs: Should, yes.
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# [18:54] <@smaug_flu> Ms2ger: actually, CustomEvent ctor works now
# [18:54] <@smaug_flu> since it doesn't use new bindings
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# [18:54] <@bz> If a tree oranges in the forest and no one is watching....
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# [18:54] <Gijs> jesup: cool, will have a look at that... but I presume that means there are no actual docs? :(
# [18:54] <@smaug_flu> so, new media.ownerDocument.defaultView.CustomEvent() should work too
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> smaug_flu, it's not... Ah, autogenerated?
# [18:55] <@smaug_flu> right, and won't be converted before dictionaries work with ctors
# [18:55] <Gijs> bholley: eh, some bits of it are still mysterious. But having native anon content show up in DOMI (and, with a WIP patch, sort of in devtools) is awesome... I can actually see what's happening!
# [18:55] <Gijs> bholley: also, we were trying to figure this out last night - where are you? :)
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# [18:55] <Ms2ger> Gijs, Montreal
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# [18:55] <Ms2ger> Gijs, (atm)
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# [18:56] <Gijs> Ah, too bad, was hoping to say hello in MV. :)
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# [18:56] * bholley redirects Gijs to his travel agent Ms2ger
# [18:56] <Gijs> Heh
# [18:56] <Ms2ger> :)
# [18:56] <bholley> Gijs: I'll be back in MV soon
# [18:56] <Gijs> bholley: and I'll be gone on Saturday :(
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# [18:57] <bholley> Gijs: so it goes
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# [18:59] <Gijs> indeed...
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# [19:03] <gabor> Ms2ger: I think I backed out an extra commit I shouldn't have... Is there a way to redo it? so if I don't commit my revert and do an update/reset can I restart the process?
# [19:03] <gabor> (my patch is not at top but the 2nd and I did revert --all)
# [19:04] <Ms2ger> How about I backout for you? :)
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# [19:05] <NeilAway> bah, Gijs left, anyone know if there's a bug# for the custom event problem?
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# [19:05] <@bz> ms2ger: so how do you like this "remote printf debugging" setup with b2g? ;)
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# [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b1f2d2e287d - Ms2ger - Backout changeset baf184596a7b for build errors on a CLOSED TREE.
# [19:06] <Gijs> NeilAway: the videocontrols stuff is on bug 845555
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# [19:06] <Ms2ger> bz, the one where you deal with it all? Quite well ;)
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# [19:06] <Gijs> NeilAway: I don't know about the general problem and/or if this is something anyone else is running into
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# [19:07] <Gijs> NeilAway: I do know that because these are events, we might not see exceptions if there are problems, just stuff silently breaking...
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# [19:07] <Gijs> (MattN told me yesterday that may be fixed "Soon", which would be good!)
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# [19:21] <mcsmurf> just fyi (also it does not really affect FF): Missing .xpt files can lead to strange bugs which are hard to find
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# [19:21] <mcsmurf> I got some xpconnect assertion on "Object.keys(window)" JS code (window being chrome window) while testing something in SeaMonkey
# [19:22] <mcsmurf> it turned out the dom_gamepad.xpt file was missing from the installer packager manifest
# [19:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f2b019185f4 - Terrence Cole - Bug 779336 - Replace DOMExpandoMap with a js::HashSet; r=bholley
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# [19:26] <@bz> mcsmurf: we have tests for that...
# [19:26] <@bz> mcsmurf: I thought
# [19:26] <@bz> mcsmurf: precisely to catch cases like that
# [19:26] <Ms2ger> bz, but do they run for c-c?
# [19:26] <@bz> mcsmurf: are they not run on the seamonkey tboxes? :(
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# [19:27] <mcsmurf> bz: for missing xpt files? I think we also have some, but those need to be fixed/improved..
# [19:27] <Ms2ger> And would you be able to tell in the sea of orange that are those tinderboxen?
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# [19:27] <mcsmurf> bz: I'll check on m-c
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# [19:27] <mcsmurf> Ms2ger: yeah..
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# [19:27] <bajaj1> dvander: ping
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# [19:28] <bajaj1> dvander: can you please help land https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837370 on beta asap, we are going to build shortly and need to have the fix in
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# [19:33] <sudheera> hi, can anyone tell me how to add ideas to this page : https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13:Brainstorming#Firefox
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# [19:37] <wg9s> RyanVM: any news on what is going on with nightlies?
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# [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13063c6cfcd6 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 857989 - Add Serif/Sans Serif font toggle to Reader Mode. r=lucasr
# [19:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d41c64ab235 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 860326 - Don't update BrowserToolbar after editing a top site on about:home. r=wesj
# [19:38] <RyanVM> wg9s: bug 862242
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# [19:38] <wg9s> RyanVM: not very useful since the bug is restricted.
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# [19:39] <RyanVM> wg9s: things shoudl be coming back up in the near future
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# [19:39] <wg9s> k
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# [19:41] <wg9s> RyanVM: mostly asked because obviously it was thought to be fixed because builds wee re-triggered and a couple of them even worked, but most failed.
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# [19:41] <RyanVM> yeah, it's been annoying
# [19:42] <RyanVM> BenWa: guess who's leaking again :\
# [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/640a0017c314 - Daniel Holbert - No bug; fix typo in header comment for gfxCallbackDrawable. comment-only, DONTBUILD
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# [19:42] <RyanVM> of course, Ms2ger nicely starred the first few away...
# [19:42] <Ms2ger> Dammit
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# [19:43] <@khuey> lol
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# [19:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e92a339cb4bc - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 734691) for leaks.
# [19:44] <BenWa> RyanVM: Odd, these didn't leak in my first run. *sigh* sorry
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# [19:45] <RyanVM> BenWa: You must be going insane with this bug by now
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# [19:46] <wg9s> Mostly looking for the android nightly to see if the code for bug 861796 fixes any of the other odd crashes on android.
# [19:46] <BenWa> RyanVM: Well most embarrassed :)
# [19:46] <BenWa> mostly
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# [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/00c7171cf12c - Sachin Hosmani - Bug 628785 - Firefox should define a value for extensions.getAddons.recommended.url so AddonRepoistory.retrieveRecommendedAddons() works. r=Unfocused
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# [19:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4572a726100e - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 849069 - relative source map URLs should be resolved according to the spec's rules; r=past
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# [19:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/371ecfa8df92 - Girish Sharma - Bug 851546 - Options panel for DevTools Toolbox, r=jwalker
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# [19:54] <sudheera> Hi. I willing to apply for the Gsoc2013 and have a new project idea. and I'm about to post it in the brainstroming page. I want to know that how to fill the mentor column in the table?
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# [19:56] <glosoli> I was told that I can ask here for some folks to try one website, it's loginpost.com, I seem to have problems with Firefox, that is somehow blinks the background when scrolling, Chrome seems fine on that, so just curious if it just for me or for everyone
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# [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/285b89e03ed7 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 862440 - Remove unused aboutReaderContent.html and aboutReaderContent.css. r=bnicholson
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# [19:57] <mcsmurf> glosoli: the gray background?
# [19:57] <glosoli> mcsmurf: yes
# [19:57] <mcsmurf> glosoli: graphic cards driver is up to date?
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# [19:57] <glosoli> mcsmurf: well it's Mac OS X, I am restricted from that stuff
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# [19:57] <glosoli> It works in Chrome though
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# [19:58] <froydnj> sudheera: you may want to ask in #introduction
# [19:59] <sudheera> ok thanks
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# [20:00] <timeless> Pike: ping
# [20:00] <timeless> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/extensions/transformiix/resources/xslt.properties&rev=1.8&mark=53#50
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# [20:01] <nalexander> How do I run Android XPC shell tests locally? I see testing/xpcshell/remotexpcshelltests.py but I can't make much sense of the thicket of options.
# [20:01] <Pike> timeless: pong
# [20:01] <timeless> Localization stop word tests warning Firefox Package localization 'Spanish' of key 17 uses word: NodeType unlike: Nodetype en-US
# [20:01] <timeless> Pike: ^ is there any reason that the en-US has `Nodetype` instead of `NodeType`?
# [20:01] <Ms2ger> nalexander, meet... ted, I guess
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# [20:02] <nalexander> Ms2ger: thanks. I've asked gbrown in #mobile, too -- is he a good victim?
# [20:02] <Pike> timeless: I don't remember xslt, nor things in cvs history
# [20:02] <Ms2ger> Dunno
# [20:02] <timeless> Pike: well, err, :)
# [20:02] <mcsmurf> btw since we talked about a test which compares installer packager manifest and actual bin/ content, comm-central and m-c have this test http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/installer/Makefile.in#144
# [20:02] <timeless> Pike: the string is present in today's world
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# [20:02] <mcsmurf> but: It does not cause a build failure or warning as far as I see this (and know this)
# [20:03] <Pike> timeless: doesn't mean that I remember stuff about it
# [20:03] <Ms2ger> timeless, but nobody uses xslt, so that's fine :)
# [20:03] <timeless> can you give a general opinion on whether `Nodetype` is likely to be wrong?
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# [20:03] <mcsmurf> and with omni.jar packaging it does not work that well anymore
# [20:03] <timeless> as opposed to `NodeType` which seems to make more sense
# [20:03] <glosoli> mcsmurf: gmm just checked out with my friend who also owns MacBook but different hardware, same problem
# [20:03] <timeless> Ms2ger: yeah yeah
# [20:03] <timeless> Ms2ger: i'm testing an automated tool of mine
# [20:03] <Pike> timeless: short of trying to find the spec, no
# [20:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2ddcae0868a - Ben Hearsum - bug 861967: updater sets PLATFORM_VERSION part of URL wrong. r=snorp
# [20:03] <glosoli> where could I fill the bug ?
# [20:03] <timeless> Pike: ok, slightly differently
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# [20:03] <mcsmurf> since omni.jar packaging happens at...packaging time
# [20:04] <timeless> is it reasonable to assume/assert that only one of `Nodetype` or `NodeType` is correct, and thus either en-US or es-ES is buggy? :)
# [20:04] <mcsmurf> and not during build time (at least from what I know?)
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# [20:05] <timeless> (that's all my code really claims, it's usually left as an exercise to determine which is actually wrong)
# [20:05] <Pike> timeless: I think that the casing of that term may be affected by local copy style guides
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# [20:06] <timeless> fwiw, http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath/#NT-NodeType only has `NodeType` and never `Nodetype`
# [20:06] <timeless> (not that i care what the object is, i'm really just trying to vet my tool)
# [20:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/83fa4a267893 - Tim Taubert - Bug 845681 - Save session states without any open windows on Mac OS X; r=felipe a=bajaj
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# [20:07] <timeless> unfortunately that was the only complaint it could find between en-US and en-ES that was interesting
# [20:07] <timeless> well, it complained about `MacHebreo` v. `MacHebrew`, but i'm assuming that's actually correct :)
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# [20:08] <timeless> (although... Google pretty much *only* found MacHebreo because of gecko...)
# [20:08] <timeless> ... which possibly indicates that `Mac Hebreo` would be more likely..
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# [20:09] <Pike> timeless: if there was a Spanish translation fo that TR, it'd be intersting to see what that uses. I.e., the spanish localization of firefox should use the terms as they show up in spanish web standards
# [20:10] <@ted> nalexander: you want gbrown
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# [20:10] <@ted> i'm not really an expert on running tests on android
# [20:10] <timeless> Pike: sure...
# [20:10] <nalexander> ted: thanks, I'm making some progress on my own and have asked in #mobile.
# [20:10] <timeless> in this case though, the w3 spec uses NodeType, not Nodetype, so i'm pretty sure that the en gecko file is buggy :)
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# [20:10] <Pike> timeless: that said, it may be a bug, but that bug may not be worth fixing
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# [20:11] <timeless> http://www.sidar.org/recur/desdi/traduc/es/xml/xpath.html#NT-NodeType doesn't seem to be any different
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# [20:12] <mcsmurf> bz: (re the installer packager manifest thing you said earlier) see Bug 551638, no tests for FF either; currently omni.jar creation also makes fixing this not that easy
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# [20:12] <@bz> mcsmurf: hm?
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# [20:12] <@bz> mcsmurf: We have Fx tests for Object.keys(window)
# [20:13] <@bz> mcsmurf: which is supposed to catch things like this
# [20:13] <mcsmurf> bz: ah ok that way you mean
# [20:13] <Mossop> tanvi: How do I know what got blocked when the mixed content blocker appears?
# [20:13] <mcsmurf> I thought you meant another type of test
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# [20:13] <mcsmurf> +t
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# [20:14] <tanvi> Mossop - working on that now with grobinson - bug 837351
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# [20:15] <Mossop> Ah cool
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# [20:15] <rillian> mhaigh: afaik you should have to identify with nickserv every time you reconnect
# [20:15] <tanvi> we have a working patch. there are a couple bugs that we have to fix in it, and then we are goign to submit it for review
# [20:15] <rillian> some clients will automate the authentication for you
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# [20:16] <tanvi> Mossop - if you really want to, you could take the patch that is in the bug now and apply it. Error console will show you what's blocked
# [20:16] <tanvi> sorry we don't ahve this done already
# [20:16] <rillian> or you can run irssi in a screen on a server or quassel to maintain an always-on connection to the server, reconnecting to the client instead
# [20:16] <Mossop> No that's fine, I just saw that my website is hitting it and I'm interested to know why. I can wait
# [20:16] <RyanVM> tanvi: any luck tracking down the test failures yet?
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# [20:17] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, ping
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# [20:17] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: pong
# [20:18] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, how do I recognize a failure to use MOZ_STACK_CLASS correctly, and can I do that on try?
# [20:18] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: you'll get an error
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# [20:19] <mhaigh> rillian: if i connect from the initial location I registered the identity at, I'm not asked to authenticate. If I msg NickServ with access list it gives me a list of valid access addresses which seem to be user and location specific - I guess my real question then is how do I work out what to enter to this list for any given location
# [20:19] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: to test on try, you need to patch the mozconfigs to enable the checker
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# [20:19] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, aha. Got a pointer for that? :)
# [20:19] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2311152
# [20:20] <RyanVM> philor: so apparently the last blocklist update is causing intermittent linux xpcshell failures on esr17. Question is, does anyone care?
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# [20:20] <rillian> mhaigh: hmm, fancy. Maybe the hostmask? You'd need the external ip addresses for each office
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# [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b30073a4dfd1 - Yuan Pengfei - Bug 844031 - Fix Intel graphics driver detection. r=bjacob, a=bbajaj
# [20:20] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, ta
# [20:21] <rillian> mhaigh: I don't know how it works. ask dimitru maybe?
# [20:21] <jcranmer> np
# [20:21] <mhaigh> rillian - thanks for your help :)
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# [20:23] <mhaigh> ah..who is dimitru ? can't find online or in phonebook
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# [20:24] <Ms2ger> mhaigh, dumitru, you mean?
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# [20:25] <mhaigh> ah ha :) thanks Ms2ger
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# [20:25] <gaston> gps: what's the mach rationale for only showing timestamp & target file ? why not showing the tool run, like compiler/linker/mkdir/etc.....
# [20:25] <Ms2ger> gaston, it shows exactly what make -s does
# [20:25] <gaston> wouldnt make it that verbose and could provide more info
# [20:26] <gps> gaston: I think bug 860898 will make you happy
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# [20:26] <gps> gaston: the rationale was "casual developers aren't concerned with verbose build output"
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# [20:27] <gps> silent by default makes the most sense for the most people. it's even usually faster (especially on slow terminals)
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# [20:28] <gaston> i'm not asking for the fullblown line as gmake does, just a tiny wee bit more info :)
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# [20:28] <gaston> oh well that's at the bikeshedding color point now :)
# [20:28] <Ms2ger> gaston, then you get to hack the build system :)
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# [20:28] <gaston> nooooes
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# [20:29] <gps> sadly there is no easy point between "this is the command make is running" and -s
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# [20:29] <gaston> it's just that '14:09.66 ./addons/test_updateid2_2.xpi' is a bit cryptic when you look at the output
# [20:30] <gaston> but i can perfectly live with it :)
# [20:30] <gps> our make rules explicitly print filenames for e.g. c++ and idls
# [20:30] <gps> indeed
# [20:30] <gps> early versions of mach parsed the full output and even displayed a progress meter of sorts
# [20:30] <gps> however that was cut because it relied on parsing localized output from make
# [20:30] <gaston> ouch :)
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# [20:31] <gps> however with a little magic we could bring it back
# [20:31] <gps> but that would require effort and it's mainly a cosmetic gain. lower priority than say making the build system faster :)
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# [20:31] <gaston> of course :)
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# [20:32] <Ms2ger> I should probably do something like that
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# [20:33] <glosoli> so anyone else can test that on other systems ? the background of loginpost.com is it blinking when scrolling ? :/
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# [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47c5b47655c8 - Paolo Amadini - Bug 859065 - Avoid "command timed out: 1200 seconds without output, attempting to kill" by providing an inner xpcshell timeout of 5 minutes. r=jmaher
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# [20:34] <padenot> blinking on linux nightly here
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# [20:34] <glosoli> padenot: same in Aurora and Stable on MAC OS X
# [20:34] <glosoli> :)
# [20:34] <gaston> on a totally unrelated note, who should i bother if i want to pay a courtesy visit to mozilla offices in toronto ? i'll be there in may...
# [20:34] <glosoli> padenot: not sure how to report that bug, by recording or what ?
# [20:34] <philor> RyanVM: I wonder whether anyone cared about when an esr10 one did enough to have even closed my bug about it...
# [20:34] <Ms2ger> gps, is this $(REPORT_BUILD)?
# [20:35] <gaston> i'll also be giving a talk about mozilla on bsds in ottawa at http://www.bsdcan.org/2013/schedule/events/368.en.html if anyone around there is interested..
# [20:35] <gps> Ms2ger: yup
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# [20:35] <padenot> glosoli: if you can do a 60fps recording, it would be appreciated
# [20:36] <glosoli> padenot: will try to see if QuickTime supports that
# [20:36] <gps> that last push (xpcshell timeouts) makes me happy
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# [20:37] <Ms2ger> gps, and do you have a pointer to where such a thing would happen for, say, linking libxul?
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# [20:37] <mcsmurf> glosoli: note that there a quite a few bugs already which are about blinking and flickering background
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# [20:37] <gps> Ms2ger: somewhere in /toolkit/library/Makefile IIRC
# [20:38] <glosoli> mcsmurf: I forgot the link where the bugs are registered.. used it only once in the past ;/
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# [20:38] <glosoli> aah lol firefox room reports on bugzilla
# [20:38] <glosoli> gonna try to fiind ;/
# [20:38] <mcsmurf> glosoli: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/query.cgi but finding bugs is not that easy
# [20:38] <gps> Ms2ger: I would r+ a patch that printed "linking libXUL" in a heartbeat
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# [20:39] <Ms2ger> gps, hrm, all I can find there seems to be something to do with dependentlibs.list?
# [20:39] <glosoli> mcsmurf: yeah, I remember that from my previous experience with bugzilla...
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# [20:40] <mcsmurf> glosoli: there's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555834 but I think that's another problem
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# [20:41] <gps> Ms2ger: I /think/ the last rule in the file is the one that links libxul
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# [20:42] <gps> oh WTF rules.mk
# [20:42] <RyanVM> BenWa: ping
# [20:42] <gps> trying to remember how $(ELOG) works, ugh
# [20:42] <BenWa> RyanVM: pong
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# [20:42] <mcsmurf> glosoli: also see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=6323537&short_desc=fixed%20background%20scroll&resolution=---&resolution=DUPLICATE&query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr
# [20:42] <RyanVM> BenWa: I'm officially confused.
# [20:43] <mcsmurf> glosoli: there were/are a few bugs filed on scrolling on pages with fixed background
# [20:43] <Ms2ger> gps, "oh WTF rules.mk" is the one context in which mentioning rules.mk is acceptable :)
# [20:43] <RyanVM> BenWa: so we had overlapping mochitest b-c issues - bug 861912 and yours
# [20:43] <RyanVM> the tests were orange from that push
# [20:43] <RyanVM> the leaks showed up with yours
# [20:43] <Ms2ger> BenWa, and I'm an idiot
# [20:43] <RyanVM> BenWa: and both disappeared with bug 861912 backed out
# [20:43] <@khuey> so say we all
# [20:43] <@khuey> :-P
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# [20:43] <Ms2ger> khuey, nah, that's about you :)
# [20:44] <BenWa> RyanVM: Was the Mutex leak not mine? Because it's plausibly mine
# [20:44] <_AxS_> gaston: that talk sounds great; hope i can make it to see that when you're in Ottawa
# [20:44] <RyanVM> BenWa: it showed up on your push
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# [20:44] <_AxS_> (i'll be comparing notes vs what we do in Gentoo :)
# [20:44] <glosoli> mcsmurf: none of them seems to fit the one I get, looking forward even more though
# [20:44] <Ms2ger> $(wildcard $(if $(wildcard $(FINAL_TARGET)/dependentlibs.list),$(addprefix $(FINAL_TARGET)/,$(shell cat $(FINAL_TARGET)/dependentlibs.list))))
# [20:44] <RyanVM> BenWa: hence the confusion
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# [20:44] <mcsmurf> glosoli: ok, maybe your bug has really not been filed yet
# [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/866528335dfc - Gregory Szorc - Bug 855024 - Better management of pull-only providers; r=rnewman
# [20:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f74457ed102 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 830492 - Manually control WAL checkpointing during heavy I/O; r=rnewman
# [20:45] <RyanVM> BenWa: It's like your patch was leaking when the test was failing, but doesn't otherwise
# [20:45] <BenWa> RyanVM: Umm
# [20:45] <RyanVM> BenWa: i know, right?
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# [20:45] <RyanVM> BenWa: but seriously, look at the logs
# [20:46] <BenWa> Yea I'm looking at that now
# [20:46] <RyanVM> there were no mutex leaks on the failing runs before your patch landed
# [20:46] <RyanVM> but debug mochitest b-c apparently went green on the bug 861912 backout push
# [20:46] <glosoli> doh
# [20:46] <glosoli> I recorded it
# [20:46] <glosoli> But not sure if people will be able to see it
# [20:46] <glosoli> ;/
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# [20:47] <BenWa> RyanVM: So it looks like my patch only leaks if BC fails
# [20:47] <RyanVM> BenWa: apparently...
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# [20:47] <RyanVM> mildly disconcerting :P
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# [20:48] <BenWa> RyanVM: I don't understand. If we fail an assert we either crash or do a full close. If we crash then we obviously leak, if we shutdown then my mutex should be cleaned up
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# [20:48] <BenWa> RyanVM: So it explain why my try run looked ok
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# [20:48] <RyanVM> yeah, if bc wasn't dying, you were in the clear!
# [20:49] <RyanVM> it was only because you happened to land on bustage that we saw this :)
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# [20:49] <BenWa> RyanVM: I think it's still indicates a problem so I'll have another manual look before landing this again
# [20:49] <Ms2ger> gps, aha... http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/rules.mk#946 ?
# [20:49] <RyanVM> (and if BenWa isn't currently shaking his head and saying FML, I'm impressed)
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# [20:49] <glosoli> mcsmurf: where could I upload it ?
# [20:50] <RyanVM> BenWa: well, if you want to test a fix, at least you know a broken cset you can push along with it :)
# [20:50] <mcsmurf> glosoli: I saw people usually upload videos at YouTube and then link to it
# [20:50] <BenWa> haha good point. I'll probably have a try at relanding it tonight then
# [20:51] <gps> Ms2ger: that looks right!
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# [20:51] <RyanVM> BenWa: helluva a lucky coincidence, though. I can only imagine how much we'd have been pulling our hair out over that one the next time someone broke b-c otherwise
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# [20:51] <BenWa> RyanVM: So in those logs I get a PROCESS-CRASH. Why do we run leakcheck? How does that make sense
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# [20:52] <Ms2ger> gps, let me point out in advance that this is a very temporary exception to my I-don't-touch-the-build-system-with-a-ten-foot-pole rule
# [20:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2c25a98cebb - Julian Seward - Bug 837390 - Profiler livelock caused by SA_RESTART restarting fork() syscall. r=bgirard
# [20:53] <qDot> tbpl unhappy for anyone else?
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# [20:53] <qDot> It's not loading my build status page. Stuck at 9%
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# [20:53] <Ms2ger> qDot, force-refresh?
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# [20:54] <qDot> Ms2ger: Been trying that. Keeps happening. Full build list page loads fine.
# [20:54] <Ms2ger> How strange
# [20:54] <BenWa> RyanVM: The BloatView only reports 390 traced object allocated. This isn't a normal run of Firefox and is likely one that isn't matched with a profiler_shutdown
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# [20:54] <jwir3> qdot, Ms2ger: I'm experiencing something similar
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# [20:55] <Ms2ger> jcranmer|away, ... so that didn't work out: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d23dc6aa4892
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# [20:56] <gps> Ms2ger: I'll forget that you are capable of build system patches if your patch prints a Ghostbusters reference when linking libxul
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# [20:59] <Ms2ger> gps, how about I add a $(PYTHON) -c "import webbrowser; webbrowser.open_new_tab('https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0')" ? :)
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# [20:59] <gps> :)
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# [21:00] <Ms2ger> print "Linking libxul, you've got time for this now"
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# [21:01] <gps> "Linking libxul - I ain't afraid of no 32-bit memory limit during PGO"
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# [21:03] <glosoli> mcsmurf: http://youtu.be/3tn-84jNMaM would you mind checking if it 's clear enough for you ?
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# [21:04] <gps> dammit. now I have the ghostbusters theme song in my head
# [21:04] <mcsmurf> glosoli: can't see any bug in that video :/
# [21:04] <glosoli> hmm
# [21:04] <glosoli> in 1080 also
# [21:04] <glosoli> ?
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# [21:04] <glosoli> It would not be possible on bad quality
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# [21:06] <mcsmurf> glosoli: maybe a bit...but do you see the bug when watching your own video? ;)
# [21:06] <glosoli> yeah blinking is a bug for me
# [21:06] <glosoli> As it does not blink anywhere else
# [21:06] <glosoli> :)
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# [21:07] <glosoli> My eyes are very sensitive, stuff like that drives me nuts
# [21:08] <Osaka> Who ya gonna call... Okay it's back >.>
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# [21:08] <BenWa> ted: Do you know about the leakcheck that runs on BC testsuite? I don't understand why we run leakcheck on a process crash
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# [21:09] <@ted> we run leakcheck on all our testsuites on debug builds
# [21:09] <BenWa> ted: What does it mean to run leakcheck after the process has crashes?
# [21:09] <BenWa> such as https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21867533&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1#error3
# [21:09] <@ted> probably not much useful
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# [21:10] <BenWa> ted: I don't understand how we can even run leakcheck if we're crashes. It looks like it spawned a short lived process since the total object count is just 390
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# [21:11] <@ted> probably just the full leak log didn't get written out
# [21:11] <glosoli> mcsmurf: so just to be sure, you say that it should not be considered as bug ?
# [21:11] <@ted> i agree, it's silly to run it if the app crashed
# [21:11] <@ted> you've already failed the tests, the leakstats aren't going to be correct anyway
# [21:11] <mcsmurf> glosoli: well, I can barely spot a bug there
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# [21:11] <glosoli> So how would you call it ?
# [21:11] <mcsmurf> glosoli: but I don't decide if a bug is valid or not ;)
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# [21:12] <glosoli> Eh, ok....
# [21:13] <glosoli> At least this time I really gave it a try ;/
# [21:13] <mcsmurf> no idea how would I call it ;)
# [21:13] <mcsmurf> really, I cannot spot anything there, maybe it's more visible when one sees it in "real life"
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# [21:14] <glosoli> mcsmurf: well it's hard to spot... unless your eyes are sensitive for every little pixel in the screen.. and that's how it works for me, so yeah, there is no point of creating a bug for stuff most of the people would not see..
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# [21:17] <Ms2ger> OH "Firefox 4 is around the corner, already at beta2"
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# [21:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e0a0e66bf8b - Aaron Klotz - Bug 826851: Unit tests for Plugin Hang UI. r=bsmedberg
# [21:18] <till> Ms2ger: did you stumble into a wormhole?
# [21:18] <Ms2ger> till, yep
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# [21:18] <Ms2ger> till, I still remember the eternal summer of Firefox 4 betas ;)
# [21:18] <Archaeopteryx> inbox bankruptcy?
# [21:19] <till> Ms2ger: quick, fix All The Mistakes we made since then!
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# [21:19] <Ms2ger> till, (and then the eternal fall, and the eternal winter...)
# [21:19] <till> Actually, you can also do it very slowly, if that works better.
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# [21:19] <glosoli> mcsmurf: is there some sort of separate channel for Firefox devs who deal with video stuff ?
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# [21:20] <mcsmurf> glosoli: #gfx
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# [21:21] <jesup> glosoli: Actually #media more
# [21:21] <glosoli> hmm
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# [21:21] <RyanVM> bjacob: ping
# [21:21] <glosoli> I keep being referred else and else....
# [21:21] <glosoli> endless loop.
# [21:22] <RyanVM> bjacob: your push to m-b was empty
# [21:22] <bjacob> RyanVM: oh..
# [21:22] <mcsmurf> glosoli: you did not mean video stuff, but rendering stuff ;)
# [21:22] <RyanVM> bjacob: if you want, I can get it in a bit
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# [21:23] <glosoli> mcsmurf: yeah sorry, English is not my native
# [21:23] <bjacob> RyanVM: i copied the mozilla-aurora patch, and i just realized now, it's empty too!!!
# [21:24] <RyanVM> bjacob: are you kidding me? lol, fail
# [21:24] <RyanVM> bjacob: I bet I didn't qref
# [21:24] <RyanVM> god dammit
# [21:24] <RyanVM> bjacob: I know it didn't apply cleanly, and I remember fixing it up.
# [21:24] <RyanVM> ugh
# [21:24] <bjacob> RyanVM: the best part is that QA verified it
# [21:24] <RyanVM> haha
# [21:25] <bjacob> RyanVM: hm wait... the aurora tree does have the code
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# [21:26] <bjacob> RyanVM: nevermind
# [21:26] <bjacob> RyanVM: my own stupidity
# [21:26] <RyanVM> *whew* :P
# [21:26] <bjacob> RyanVM: i had tried to apply the patch on aurora, not remembering it had already landed there. So i created an empty patch, as it failed to apply.
# [21:27] <RyanVM> ahhh
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# [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/28d4b9ca9ceb - Yuan Pengfei - Bug 844031 - Fix Intel graphics driver detection. r=bjacob, a=bajaj
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# [21:30] <RyanVM> BenWa: this makes me feel a bit "better" - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21873018&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [21:31] <RyanVM> BenWa: that's pre-backout on yours
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# [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0627e8608a97 - Geoff Brown - Bug 862493 - disable robocop tests that cause instability on panda; r=jmaher DONTBUILD
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# [21:32] <RyanVM> bholley: ping
# [21:32] <ericjung> khuey|away: ping
# [21:32] <BenWa> RyanVM: I'm going to add another CTOR_COUNT so it will be easier to know if it's the profiler leaking
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# [21:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51644264df6d - Mike Shal - Bug 846634 - Part 2: Move EXPORTS to moz.build; r=joey
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# [21:36] <Ms2ger> gaston, I guess you talk to ehsan about Toronto
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# [21:37] <@ehsan> gaston: what's up?
# [21:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a26ebb943ea - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1d41c64ab235 (bug 860326) for robocop crashes.
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# [21:39] <Ms2ger> bz, yes
# [21:39] <RyanVM> bz: good catch :P
# [21:39] <@bz> ryanvm: well, I started reading the code, because I couldn't understand why it could be happening... ;)
# [21:39] <@bz> ms2ger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=850090#c66 ?
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# [21:41] <Ms2ger> bz, looks like something caused test failures while the builds were busted due to bug 857645, and I wanted to make sure we got green asap
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# [21:41] <Ms2ger> bz, and apparently I forgot to mark the bugs :/
# [21:41] <glosoli> mcsmurf: thanks for you help though, will be back in future releases :)
# [21:43] <mcsmurf> ok :)
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# [21:45] <gps> if the EXPORTS patch breaks inbound, we probably need a clobber
# [21:45] <gps> please don't back it out :)
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# [21:47] <froydnj> maybe we should just pre-emptively close the tree :)
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# [21:48] <Ms2ger> I would not be opposed to that...
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# [21:48] <@bz> ms2ger: ok
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# [21:49] <@bz> ms2ger: sounds like I should reland that, then. ;)
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# [21:50] <bholley> RyanVM: hi
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# [21:50] <RyanVM> bholley: hi :) I was just curious how things are going with bug 773610?
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# [21:52] <bholley> RyanVM: all the deps landed, but the stuff jdm did turned out not to be enough
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# [21:52] <bholley> RyanVM: see the discussion in bug 770840
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# [21:52] <RyanVM> cool, thanks :)
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# [21:53] <RyanVM> was just following up on some orange bugs and was looking at the leak we think is related to bug 773610
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# [21:54] <RyanVM> bholley: also, filing a new orange that may interest you
# [21:54] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21874298&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [21:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baec6e6659a8 - Joe Drew - Bug 857876 - If we're not storing source data, explicitly shut down the decoder when the image data is complete. r=seth
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# [21:54] <bholley> RyanVM: yeah, that dep should really be a couple bugs up the dependency chain
# [21:54] <@khuey> ericjung: pong
# [21:55] <glosoli> mcsmurf: I misinformed you, sorry
# [21:55] <bholley> RyanVM: it should depend on 770535
# [21:55] <bholley> bug 770535
# [21:55] <bsmedberg> jet: memshrink was at 2 or 4 PT?
# [21:55] <RyanVM> bholley: feel free to change accordingly ;)
# [21:55] <ericjung> khuey: RE: bug 842473, can you recommend an environment for capturing valgrind-style debug info on windows?
# [21:56] <jet> bsmedberg: 4PM PDT today
# [21:56] <@khuey> ericjung: nope
# [21:56] <@khuey> ericjung: there's no free alternative on windows
# [21:56] <ericjung> khuey: windbg?
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# [21:57] <@khuey> nope
# [21:57] <ericjung> khuey: and it's only reproducible on windows?
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# [21:57] <ericjung> khuey: ok, so what about paid options?
# [21:57] <@khuey> it's reproducible on linux according to some of the comments in that bug
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# [21:57] <ericjung> khuey: i wasn't sure if that was the *other* bug
# [21:57] <@khuey> ericjung: well there's purify if someone has a thousand dollars to burn ...
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# [21:58] <@khuey> ericjung: there's another bug?
# [21:58] <ericjung> khuey: i mean it looked like a crash on linux, but something else
# [21:58] <@khuey> oh
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# [21:58] <ericjung> khuey: yeah
# [21:58] * @khuey has no idea
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# [21:58] <ericjung> khuey: another crash
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# [21:59] <ericjung> khuey: comment 26
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# [21:59] <@khuey> ok comment 28 says it's windows only :-/
# [21:59] <ericjung> khuey: yeah
# [22:00] <ericjung> khuey: bug comment 28 is about the "other bug"
# [22:00] <ericjung> khuey: georg is opening a new bugzilla bug for it
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# [22:00] <JonathanS> Current Nightly supports OS X 10.6 and later?
# [22:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/25ff97949e71 - Reuben Morais - Bug 862247 - Fix Contacts/Settings tests not running individually. r=gwagner
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# [22:00] <@khuey> ericjung: ok I'm too confused now :-)
# [22:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4a7f5c87ff79 - Jose Antonio Olivera Ortega - Bug 861896 - [b2g-ril] Call waiting feature is not working on Geeksphone Peak devices. r=vicamo
# [22:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7a382f597514 - Jon Hylands - Bug 853632 - Cache own and containing apps in TabContext. r=jlebar
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# [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f97608760109 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge the last green birch changeset to m-c.
# [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0f3cc18bed9d - Patrick Wang - Bug 860604 - Use receiving time to store received sms message. r=vicamo
# [22:01] <ericjung> khuey: in which town/city do you live?
# [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a464dd2eefcb - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 862050 : When mms apn is the same as default apn, the cellphone can't get data call connection. r=vyang
# [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/257ebb91a717 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
# [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0d95450aee43 - Diego Wilson - Bug 860760 - Pause OMX media sources when playback is paused. r=sotaro, r=cdouble
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# [22:01] <yawnt> hi :D
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# [22:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/644e9c1856ce - EKR - Bug 854085. Make thread asserts conditional on DEBUG not MOZ_DEBUG. r=jesup
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# [22:04] <ericjung> khuey: in which town/city do you live?
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# [22:04] <ericjung> (just wondering if we can do any of this in-person if possible)
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# [22:18] <RyanVM> bjacob: filed bug 862520 for disabling quickCheckAPI-B2.html
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# [22:18] <RyanVM> bjacob: please kill it with fire ASAP :)
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# [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4d5cf6dc2ed4 - David Anderson - NULL check various things in jsinfer (bug 837370, r=bhackett, a=bbajaj).
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# [22:20] <bjacob> RyanVM: thanks
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# [22:21] <@khuey> ericjung: SF
# [22:21] <ericjung> khuey: ok
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# [22:26] <ericjung> khuey: well, any other suggestions?
# [22:26] <ericjung> khuey: georg and i are out of ideas
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# [22:28] <@khuey> ericjung: well if we can figure out how to reproduce the crash (even on windows) I can debug it
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# [22:29] <@khuey> so we can keep working on getting STR
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# [22:29] <ericjung> khuey: if it is a stack corruption, we're not going to be able to get an exact series of steps to reproduce it. right?
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# [22:30] <@khuey> well it won't look exactly the same each time
# [22:31] <@khuey> but we ought to be able to reproduce some sort of crash
# [22:31] <ericjung> khuey: ok
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# [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f90420b412c0 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 845555 - Fix statistics menu item, r=jaws
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# [22:40] <@khuey> apparently trying to view selection source on es5.github.io is a very bad idea
# [22:40] <@bz> lol
# [22:40] <@bz> profile it?
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# [22:40] <@khuey> that would take work :-P
# [22:40] <@khuey> bz: in SPS?
# [22:40] <@khuey> or something else?
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# [22:44] <virtualnrc> I'm getting a strange build error:
# [22:44] <virtualnrc> note: template<int N> void nsACString_internal::AssignLiteral(const char (&)[N])
# [22:44] <virtualnrc> note: template argument deduction/substitution failed:
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# [22:45] <virtualnrc> anyone seen something like this before?
# [22:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/089c532f32d1 - Sean Stangl - Bug 860029 - Standardize Modelines in the JS Module. r=njn
# [22:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4afae2ce30c2 - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 857073 - Simplify ChromeUtils usages. r=jmaher
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# [22:45] <@khuey> bz: well I tried to profile it and firefox OOMed
# [22:46] <@khuey> :-P
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# [22:49] <@bz> khuey: did you profile with SPS, or something out-of-band? ;_
# [22:49] <@khuey> bz: SPS
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# [22:49] <@bz> khuey: ah, yeah, don't. ;)
# [22:49] <@khuey> indeed
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# [22:50] <mcsmurf> looks like he's here ;)
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# [22:51] <dougt> ted: ping?
# [22:51] <RyanVM|afk> praveen97uma: might be better to catch him over in #ateam, though
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# [22:52] <ctalbert> praveen97uma: yeah
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# [22:55] <@khuey> bz: http://people.mozilla.com/~bgirard/cleopatra/#report=c13b64847a10f7ff8ba2a63794bc36a93e8a5f89
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# [22:58] <@khuey> bz: though that appears to be a truncated profile or something :-/
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# [23:45] <mconley> chrisccoulson: yep, but not for much longer - about to head home!
# [23:45] <mconley> chrisccoulson: what's up?
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# [23:46] <chrisccoulson> mconley, oh, that's ok. it's only a quick question anyway :)
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# [23:46] <chrisccoulson> what automated tests do you run for thunderbird, other than mozmill?
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# [23:46] <mconley> chrisccoulson: XPCShell tests, bloat tests...
# [23:46] <mconley> crash tests
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# [23:46] <mconley> er
# [23:47] <mconley> by crash tests, I just mean, we make sure that starting it doesn't cause it to crash. :)
# [23:47] <mconley> hoo boy
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# [23:47] <chrisccoulson> mconley, ah, thanks. that's easy enough then :)
# [23:47] <mconley> chrisccoulson: there are others, but Mozmill, XPCShell and bloat are the ones that come to mind for me. Standard8 would know the full list
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# [23:48] <jcranmer> chrisccoulson: we run the compiled-code tests (make check), xpcshell, mozmill, and mailbloat tests on our tinderboxen
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# [23:48] <mconley> there ya go
# [23:48] <jcranmer> reftests in general work but we don't bother running those
# [23:48] <chrisccoulson> mconley, jcranmer, excellent, thanks :)
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