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5. # [00:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/30a076221e49 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 838864: disable keyword.URL reset prompting since we're going to be removing the pref entirely in Firefox 23, a=bajaj
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54. # [00:33] <firebot> Check-in:
55. # [00:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ae079a1ca8e - Daniel Holbert - Bug 863043: Move CompositorOGL::Initialize's helper-nsRunnable from function-scope to class-scope to fix build warning about ignored visibility attribute. r=Bas
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76. # [00:45] <NeilAway> gavin: well, I tried to log in to mozillians but the site displayed a weird error which I don't see in a non-private window
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78. # [00:46] <@gavin> NeilAway: ah, no idea
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91. # [00:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52169bf1e074 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 846122 - Handle split multi-track Cues in nestegg. r=padenot
92. # [00:57] <Waldo> NeilAway: just wfm in a private window
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108. # [01:09] <jst> jgilbert: ping
109. # [01:09] <jgilbert> jst: pong
110. # [01:09] <jst> jgilbert: howdy
111. # [01:10] <jgilbert> jst: yo
112. # [01:11] <jst> jgilbert: friendly reminder that you're on the hook to review b2g blocker bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860483
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115. # [01:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28af81b415ab - Mark Hammond - Bug 862673 - ensure assertions in test_mousecapture_area are attributed to that test rather than the following test. r=gavin
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118. # [01:17] <jgilbert> jst: repong (power outage)
119. # [01:18] <jst> jgilbert: friendly reminder that you're on the hook to review b2g blocker bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860483
120. # [01:18] <jst> jgilbert: power outage in the office, or you wfh?
121. # [01:18] <jgilbert> jst: wfm (out sick)
122. # [01:19] <jst> jgilbert: sorry to hear that :(
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124. # [01:19] <jst> jgilbert: you think you're up for reviewing?
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126. # [01:19] <jgilbert> jst: eh, it happens. Mostly in containment mode right now. Don't want to get others sick. :)
127. # [01:19] <jgilbert> jst: yeah, I'm alright for doing stuff
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129. # [01:20] <jst> jgilbert: ok, makes sense, and others appreciate what you're doing :)
130. # [01:20] <jst> jgilbert: both reviewing, and not getting others sick! :)
131. # [01:20] <@smaug> it is getting late in Madrid
132. # [01:20] <jst> it is
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137. # [01:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3175ad40acfe - Brian Nicholson - Bug 860523 - Add namespace wrapper for WebApps. r=wesj
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171. # [01:44] <jorendorff> What's the politics behind Futures?
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173. # [01:44] <jorendorff> All I know is that annevk is very much in favor of them
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175. # [01:45] <jorendorff> ...and that the spec is not the place to begin reading
176. # [01:45] <mbrubeck> jorendorff: There are kind of some competing specs / conventions / implementations floating around
177. # [01:45] <@smaug> competing specs?
178. # [01:45] <@smaug> what is competing with DOM?
179. # [01:45] <mbrubeck> http://wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/Promises/A is a kind of minimal spec for a common interface that a bunch of libraries implement
180. # [01:45] <@smaug> (but I don't know whether I like Futures or not)
181. # [01:45] <mbrubeck> it's really heavily used in the Node community
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184. # [01:47] <njn> Sync appears to be totally busted for me, and has been for a while
185. # [01:47] <KWierso|Home> njn: yeah, known issue
186. # [01:47] <njn> KWierso|Home: great, I guess
187. # [01:47] <markh> http://domenic.me/2012/10/14/youre-missing-the-point-of-promises/ (You're Missing the Point of Promises) is interesting and talks a bit about Promises/A
188. # [01:48] <KWierso|Home> njn: bug 862282 and/or bug 861016 cover it, I think
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190. # [01:49] <njn> KWierso|Home: not a lot of action on those bugs :(
191. # [01:49] <KWierso|Home> it's been reported a bunch over in #sync
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193. # [01:49] <KWierso|Home> not sure what's going on out of view
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204. # [01:58] <dholbert> hmm, looks like we might have an Android M-8 perma-orange
205. # [01:58] <dholbert> starting with https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=b1096811620f
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212. # [02:05] <mbrubeck> dholbert: argh
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214. # [02:05] <dholbert> mbrubeck, [posted on bug]
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217. # [02:06] <dholbert> mbrubeck, waiting for one more instance of the failure (in a subsequent run or in one of my retriggers) before backing out, just in case it's a crazy fluke
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219. # [02:06] <mbrubeck> dholbert: That push changed the order and objdir paths of a bunch of mochitests, so it's pretty suspect
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221. # [02:06] <mbrubeck> It went through try a bunch of times, but it's easily bitrotted
222. # [02:06] <@dolske> c'mon intermittent green! ;)
223. # [02:07] <dholbert> mbrubeck, it went through Try w/out getting tested on android in most of the runs, unfortunately
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225. # [02:07] <mbrubeck> oh, right
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227. # [02:07] <dholbert> mbrubeck, (which is generally reasonable, but means that it could've had this problem all along)
228. # [02:07] <mbrubeck> yeah, let's just back it out
229. # [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0795073314a9 - Karl Tomlinson - b=767710 don't let additional events with the same destination restart smooth scrolling r=mstange
230. # [02:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f687fc38de90 - Karl Tomlinson - b=767710 move current motion calculation into InitSmoothScroll() r=roc
231. # [02:08] <dholbert> mbrubeck, ok. are you already on it? if not, I can back it out
232. # [02:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dae9cddd40cb - Karl Tomlinson - b=767710 refactor AsyncScroll duration API so duration can be evaluated before resetting r=roc
233. # [02:09] <mbrubeck> dholbert: I'm not
234. # [02:09] <dholbert> mbrubeck, k. I'm on it
235. # [02:09] <mbrubeck> thanks!
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243. # [02:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4ff0407496f - Daniel Holbert - backout b1096811620f (Bug 847279) for android M-8 orange
244. # [02:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee1ba342612b - Daniel Holbert - backout 8e0af273404e (Bug 847279) for android M-8 orange
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247. # [02:14] <dholbert> mbrubeck, thanks for the starring
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252. # [02:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/312eba5c02d2 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 861658 - Make Android Sync styles use Gecko themes. r=nalexander
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254. # [02:16] <billm> does anyone know how to disable the safe mode dialog that comes up when you crash on startup? it's pretty annoying when trying to debug a crash.
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261. # [02:21] <markh> billm: I think that setting the pref toolkit.startup.max_resumed_crashes to -1 might do that
262. # [02:21] <billm> markh: cool, thanks. I'll try that.
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266. # [02:23] <@gavin> billm, markh: see also bug 745154
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269. # [02:24] <joe> i though that was disabled in debug mode, but i guess it never landed
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271. # [02:25] <markh> that seems to be what bug 745154 is about...
272. # [02:25] <joe> yeah
273. # [02:25] <markh> which would be nice :)
274. # [02:25] <billm> gavin: thanks. that's exactly what I want.
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277. # [02:27] <@gavin> bet BenWa|sms wouldn't mind if someone stole that
278. # [02:27] <@gavin> (hope I didn't just cause him to get an SMS)
279. # [02:28] <markh> lol
280. # [02:28] <joe> i don't think he does no
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289. # [02:37] <BenWa> gavin: it just forwards to email
290. # [02:37] <BenWa> Yes, someone should finish that :)
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292. # [02:37] <BenWa> I keept hitting it when I make a new profile
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299. # [02:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97b75eac3e0f - Matt Woodrow - Bug 852850 - Add a reftest to make sure images hoisted into their own layers aren't painted. r=joe
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302. # [02:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e257b45b714c - Matt Woodrow - Bug 852850 - Add the ability for the reftest framework to test whether an element is painted in invalidation tests. r=roc
303. # [02:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6b34be6fb4c - Matt Woodrow - Bug 837335 - Don't build an nsDisplayTransform for nsSVGPathGeometryFrame if the transform is only a translation. r=jwatt
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319. # [02:51] <threkk> hello
320. # [02:51] <mbrubeck> hi, threkk
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325. # [02:53] <threkk> I'm here because I'm interested in participating on GSoC in a Mozilla project, and as it's recommended to go to the IRC, I'm here looking for any advice :)
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327. # [02:55] <threkk> Anyone has any advice, or maybe I'm at the wrong channel? :P
328. # [02:57] <froydnj> threkk: you probably want to check out #introduction instead
329. # [02:58] <threkk> so… wrong channel xD
330. # [02:58] <dholbert> threkk, do you have an idea for a project already, or are you looking for a project?
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334. # [02:58] <threkk> I've been looking at the projects listed on the wiki, and some of them looks interesting
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337. # [03:01] <threkk> although I've worked with the technologies listened, I'm not sure if I have the level or experience requiered :P
338. # [03:05] <@bz> "required" is a flexible concept...
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341. # [03:07] <threkk> obviously, it has to be enough to complete the task in the time stipulate
342. # [03:07] <@bz> Well, sure
343. # [03:07] <@bz> This is for gsoc?
344. # [03:07] * @bz missed that part of the context if so.
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346. # [03:09] <dholbert> yup
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348. # [03:10] <threkk> yes
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352. # [03:10] <dholbert> threkk, if you have questions about particular projects, you probably want to talk to the people behind those projects
353. # [03:11] <dholbert> threkk, if you just want to get started compiling firefox & making patches, then #introduction is indeed a good place
354. # [03:11] <dholbert> (that plus https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Firefox_build )
355. # [03:13] <threkk> nice :)
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357. # [03:13] <dholbert> threkk, good luck!
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359. # [03:14] <threkk> I'll revise all the projects proposed
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361. # [03:14] <threkk> when I've done that, where can I find the mentors to ask them?
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363. # [03:16] <dholbert> threkk, here, generally! or in some room on this IRC server
364. # [03:16] <Jesse> if you know their names we can help you find their IRC nicks
365. # [03:17] <dholbert> threkk, the summer of code page says IRC nicks for at least some of the mentors, and you can use "/whois nick" in most IRC clients to find out what rooms they're in, if they're online-but-not-in-this-room
366. # [03:17] <Jesse> or we can guess based on project descriptions ;)
367. # [03:17] <threkk> first I want to revise the projects to find some of them I think I can complete
368. # [03:18] <threkk> I wouldn't disturb them without analyze their projects
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378. # [03:26] <threkk> thanks for all, I'll return when I have clear ideas
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384. # [03:33] <njn> I have a <input type="file"> element, which has a "change" listener, but the listener isn't being called when I call the .click() method. How can I debug this?
385. # [03:34] <@gavin> wouldn't calling "click" just result in the file picker opening?
386. # [03:34] <@gavin> though actually IIRC click() on inputs does nothing
387. # [03:35] <dzbarsky> gavin: it should work if popups are enabled
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389. # [03:36] <njn> gavin: this is in a chrome test, and I'm setting .value beforehand
390. # [03:36] <njn> gavin: i.e. bypassing the file picker
391. # [03:36] <@gavin> yeah I was just wrong
392. # [03:36] <njn> gavin: I have it working in a simple case, but failing in a more complex case
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396. # [03:37] <njn> the .click() call is happening within another event listener, if that's relevant
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399. # [03:39] <njn> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2315691 has the code
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401. # [03:40] <njn> the input3.click() call on line 12 isn't making its way to input3's "change" listener
402. # [03:40] <njn> well, it is in the real page, but not in the mochitest
403. # [03:40] <njn> (the code is selecting two files in a row, via two filepickers)
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407. # [03:43] <RyanVM|away> mattwoodrow: reftest orange
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409. # [03:45] <njn> if I send a second event to input3, it works, but I end up with the filepicker still on screen
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417. # [03:57] * RyanVM looks at m-c tip
418. # [03:57] <RyanVM> *blink*
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426. # [04:02] <@bz> We use pgo on gcc, right?
427. # [04:02] <@bz> And gcc 4.7?
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430. # [04:04] <RyanVM> for our own builds?
431. # [04:04] <RyanVM> pgo yes
432. # [04:05] <RyanVM> gcc 4.5.2 currently
433. # [04:05] <RyanVM> (for nightlies)
434. # [04:05] <RyanVM> work is being done to switch to gcc 4.7
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436. # [04:06] <RyanVM> roc: ping
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441. # [04:09] <@bz> RyanVM: thanks
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443. # [04:10] <RyanVM> philor: just ignore the b2g and bask in the glory :P
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445. # [04:10] <RyanVM> k, apparently nobody in nz is around
446. # [04:10] <RyanVM> good thing it's 10pm here and I don't feel like doing any more backouts tonight
447. # [04:11] <philor> I'll be home in just another hour
448. # [04:11] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: 4.7, not 4.8?
449. # [04:11] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: yes
450. # [04:12] * WeirdAl mutters about how nice it would be if reviewers could post a "review eta" on attachments (i.e. "when I expect to get to this review")
451. # [04:12] <RyanVM> firebot: bug 859966
452. # [04:12] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859966 nor, --, ---, mh+mozilla, NEW, Tracking bug for gcc 4.7 switch on linux
453. # [04:13] <RyanVM> philor: the fun part being that both bugs claim that their patches passed Try
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455. # [04:14] * WeirdAl is well aware that "when hell freezes over" would be a frequent entry in that review eta field
456. # [04:15] <philor> RyanVM: well, I'd bet that 837335 passed try in February
457. # [04:15] <RyanVM> heh
458. # [04:16] <RyanVM> well, if someone in nz wants to take a break from climbing volcanoes or walking into mordor, they can back it out
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460. # [04:17] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: I'll do it
461. # [04:17] <RyanVM> he returns! :)
462. # [04:18] <nrc> but the ring - it cannot wait!
463. # [04:18] <@roc> RyanVM: hi
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465. # [04:19] <RyanVM> roc: I was just going to ask you to throw things at matt
466. # [04:19] <RyanVM> so we're good :)
467. # [04:19] * RyanVM rues being a remoty at times
468. # [04:19] * RyanVM would totally have a nerf football at his desk for such occasions
469. # [04:19] * @bz finds an obfuscated script that he's having a hard time beautifying
470. # [04:19] <@bz> This sucks
471. # [04:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24460dad116e - Matt Woodrow - Backout d6b34be6fb4c for causing reftest failures on a CLOSED TREE
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473. # [04:20] <@bz> we do it way faster than Chrome
474. # [04:20] <@bz> but searching...
475. # [04:20] * @bz tries searching in Chrome
476. # [04:21] <BenWa> RyanVM: I just picture you walking to someone desk with a airhorn 'BACKOUT'
477. # [04:21] <RyanVM> haha
478. # [04:22] * BenWa prepares to land multithread profiling. Very confident this time
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480. # [04:24] * RyanVM is glad to be going to bed soon
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486. # [04:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3ada6a2fd0c6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
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488. # [04:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4a38acae095e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
489. # [04:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4112b098c118 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 862024 - Warning about replaced window.console API shows when content scripts do not change the object; r=past
490. # [04:28] <philor> bullhorns? footballs? bats were good enough for our Netscape forebearers, they should be good enough for us
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496. # [04:32] <@khuey> RyanVM: ping
497. # [04:32] <RyanVM> khuey: pong
498. # [04:32] <@khuey> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859333#c25 is in the wrong bug
499. # [04:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ada6a2fd0c6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
500. # [04:33] <bjacob> oh hey, LWN is running a story on Rust (subscriber only for now, but LWN is awesome) http://lwn.net/Articles/547145/
501. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a722bd12603b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
502. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c124a12d219 - Wes Johnston - Bug 858340 - Domain autocompletion for Fennec. r=jchen
503. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a38acae095e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
504. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4112b098c118 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 862024 - Warning about replaced window.console API shows when content scripts do not change the object; r=past
505. # [04:33] <bjacob> thanks, firebot, for denying my right to self expression
506. # [04:34] <@bz> bjacob: lol
507. # [04:34] * @bz considers once again getting an LWN subscription
508. # [04:34] <@khuey> someone was looking at a company-wide subscription at one point
509. # [04:34] <@khuey> wonder whatever happened to that
510. # [04:35] <RyanVM> khuey: eh? looks like the others
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512. # [04:36] <@khuey> RyanVM: well the last few are different
513. # [04:36] <@khuey> it has nothing to do with the bug
514. # [04:36] <@khuey> or indexeddb
515. # [04:36] <@khuey> well
516. # [04:36] <@khuey> actually
517. # [04:36] <@khuey> I'll take that back
518. # [04:36] <@khuey> it might, because the bug is memory corruption
519. # [04:36] <RyanVM> same stuff on the stack
520. # [04:36] * @khuey sighs
521. # [04:36] <RyanVM> just one step down
522. # [04:37] <@khuey> mmm
523. # [04:37] <@khuey> yeah
524. # [04:37] <@khuey> ok
525. # [04:37] <@khuey> ignore me
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527. # [04:38] <RyanVM> wfm :)
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535. # [04:42] <@bz> khuey: it's mostly time, not cost that's the issue
536. # [04:42] <@bz> khuey: $84/year is not that bad as subscriptions to useful things go
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540. # [04:46] <@khuey> bz: iirc it was more in the sense of "these people do cool stuff and mozilla should support them"
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542. # [04:48] <@roc> ehsan: ping
543. # [04:48] <@roc> I've had an LWN subscription for a while
544. # [04:48] <@roc> it's peanuts
545. # [04:49] <@ehsan> roc: hi
546. # [04:49] <@roc> buffer size
547. # [04:49] <@ehsan> ok!
548. # [04:49] <@roc> do we really want to allow authors to choose it?
549. # [04:49] <@roc> why?
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551. # [04:49] <@ehsan> roc: I turn the question the other way around, and ask you, why not?
552. # [04:49] <@roc> either the buffer size doesn't matter, or it does
553. # [04:50] <@roc> if it doesn't, it's a useless API
554. # [04:50] <@ehsan> it doesn't to the UA
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556. # [04:50] <@roc> then it's a useless API
557. # [04:50] <@ehsan> but ignoring it does incur the chance of breaking pages that assume that we respect it
558. # [04:50] <@ehsan> oh no doubt about that
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560. # [04:51] <@ehsan> if one day hell freezes over and we get webkit to change what they're implementing, then I would have no objection to ignore it
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562. # [04:51] <@ehsan> (and even remove it from the spec completely and say that the buffer size is implementation defined)
563. # [04:51] <@roc> hmm
564. # [04:51] <@ehsan> but until then, what's a good reason for us to ignore it?
565. # [04:52] <@roc> do you know of pages that require it to be honoured?
566. # [04:52] <@ehsan> not off hand
567. # [04:52] <@roc> if you don't, I suggest ignoring it for now, and then honouring it if we disscover that's necessary
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569. # [04:52] <@ehsan> but why would we do that?
570. # [04:53] <@ehsan> just to prove a point to webkit? ;)
571. # [04:53] <@roc> so that we don't have a vestigial API
572. # [04:53] <@roc> actually I've got a better idea
573. # [04:53] <@roc> let's make the buffer size parameter optional
574. # [04:53] <@roc> and encourage authors to not use it
575. # [04:53] <@roc> can we do that?
576. # [04:54] <@ehsan> I'm on board with that _if_ we honor it if it's specified
577. # [04:54] <@roc> deal
578. # [04:54] <@ehsan> yay
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580. # [04:54] <@ehsan> wanna right the public-audio email?
581. # [04:54] <@roc> I think this has been discussed before
582. # [04:54] <@roc> if you want it brought up again, I can do that
583. # [04:55] <@ehsan> yeah, but before we were not talking about making that param optional...
584. # [04:55] <@ehsan> I spoke to crogers at the f2f about removing it
585. # [04:55] <@ehsan> and he was not in favor
586. # [04:55] <@roc> ok
587. # [04:55] <@ehsan> but making it optional could be something that he likes
588. # [04:55] <@roc> I'll email the list then
589. # [04:55] <@ehsan> cool, thanks
590. # [04:55] <@ehsan> roc: any other concerns with the patch?
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592. # [04:57] <@roc> still looking at it
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594. # [04:59] <@ehsan> ok
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596. # [05:00] <darktrojan> hmm, who know about script tags in xul?
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646. # [05:15] <@roc> ehsan: why not just inline SharedBuffers into the Engine?
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649. # [05:16] <@ehsan> roc: to give the engine less access to the guts of the node...
650. # [05:16] <@ehsan> but I guess that doesn't matter much at this point
651. # [05:16] <@ehsan> given the fact that all that the node contains is the SharedBuffers object
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653. # [05:18] <@roc> why don't you put the SharedBuffers contents into the Engine?
654. # [05:18] <@roc> instead of the node
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656. # [05:19] <@roc> well
657. # [05:19] <@roc> maybe the node works better
658. # [05:19] <@roc> I don't really care, but I think it would be simpler either way
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660. # [05:19] <@ehsan> hmm
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662. # [05:20] <@ehsan> roc: perhaps putting it in the engine makes a bit more sense
663. # [05:20] <@ehsan> since we can take mOutputReadIndex out of it too
664. # [05:20] <@ehsan> (I think)
665. # [05:20] <@ehsan> and we already have a SharedBuffer::mNode...
666. # [05:21] <@ehsan> I'll do that
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669. # [05:24] <@roc> hmm
670. # [05:24] <@roc> currently you output silence a whole block at a time
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672. # [05:25] <@roc> I would have expected you to flush all the output written by script before outputting any silence
673. # [05:26] <@ehsan> roc: don't I do that already?
674. # [05:26] <@ehsan> through tracking where we are in the output buffer using mOutputReadIndex
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681. # [05:29] <@roc> currently the sielnce-writing path does "aOutput->SetNull(WEBAUDIO_BLOCK_SIZE);"
682. # [05:29] <@ehsan> ok
683. # [05:30] <@roc> if the author chose a buffer size that doesn't match a multiple of WEBAUDIO_BLOCK_SIZE blocks
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685. # [05:30] <@ehsan> then we would throw in createScriptProcessor() :)
686. # [05:30] <@roc> then sometimes you should write partial blocks of silence
687. # [05:30] <@roc> oh really?
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689. # [05:30] <@ehsan> the spec mandates a number of legal buffer sizes
690. # [05:30] <@ehsan> yeah
691. # [05:30] <@ehsan> that part doesn't exist in my patch yet
692. # [05:30] <@ehsan> cause I was ignoring it
693. # [05:31] <@ehsan> but I do have a MOZ_ASSERT to that effect
694. # [05:31] <@roc> ah bingo
695. # [05:31] <@roc> right
696. # [05:31] <@roc> ok
697. # [05:31] <@roc> fine
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699. # [05:31] <@ehsan> yeah, sorry, though that's obvious
700. # [05:31] <@ehsan> you clearly need to work on your mind reading techniques ;)
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702. # [05:33] <@roc> I don't understand why we need outputReadIndex
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708. # [05:36] <@ehsan> roc: to know how much of the output buffer we've output the last time
709. # [05:36] <@ehsan> roc: another thing is, we need to have a solution of safely accessing the nodes from engines
710. # [05:36] <@ehsan> right now we're just relying on luck, sort of
711. # [05:36] <@ehsan> by holding a C++ reference
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713. # [05:37] <@ehsan> and that crumbles down for things like SendBuffersToMainThread
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715. # [05:37] <@roc> why isn't the output queue just a linked list of AudioChunks?
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717. # [05:38] <@roc> plus a lock of course
718. # [05:38] <@ehsan> roc: hmm, no particular reason... this was simpler
719. # [05:38] <@roc> I don't believe you :-)
720. # [05:38] <@ehsan> roc: (can you please remember to put these comments in the bug?
721. # [05:38] <@ehsan> roc: heh, I have been wrong more than once before on this kind of stuff
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723. # [05:38] <@ehsan> and you're usually right!
724. # [05:39] * @ehsan is making a late dinner
725. # [05:39] <@roc> I'm on a lucky streak
726. # [05:39] <@ehsan> hehe you can enjoy it for now ;)
727. # [05:39] <@ehsan> just watch out for the day that I start to be right
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729. # [05:39] <@ehsan> it's going to be glorious!
730. # [05:40] * ehsan is now known as ehsan|dinner
731. # [05:40] <@roc> did you already forget about being right about the node lifetime issue?
732. # [05:40] <@roc> good
733. # [05:41] <@ehsan|dinner> well, I ripped that code out
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735. # [05:41] <@ehsan|dinner> so that doesn't count ;)
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737. # [05:41] * @ehsan|dinner needs to be right about something that stays around for a release at least
738. # [05:41] * philor|away is now known as philor
739. # [05:42] <@ehsan|dinner> oh wait, I guess I was right the second time about that too?
740. # [05:42] <@roc> yeah
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742. # [05:42] * @ehsan|dinner builds up some pride on that
743. # [05:42] <@roc> I'm afraid so :-)
744. # [05:42] <@ehsan|dinner> too late, you awoke the beast!
745. # [05:43] * ehsan|dinner is now known as ehsan|reallydinner
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747. # [05:45] <@dolske> …and the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion…
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752. # [05:49] <@ehsan|reallydinner> dolske: I was thinking about updating that book a while ago, but my english is not fancy enough for that :(
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754. # [05:51] <@dolske> ehsan|reallydinner: it got updated a couple months ago, fwiw. FirefoxOS 1.0 and all that...
755. # [05:51] <@ehsan|reallydinner> oh really?
756. # [05:51] * @ehsan|reallydinner looks
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758. # [05:51] <WeirdAl> !seen mano
759. # [05:51] <firebot> mano was last seen 13 hours, 41 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying 'ok :)' in #places.
760. # [05:52] <@dolske> I missed the landing too
761. # [05:52] <@ehsan|reallydinner> shoot
762. # [05:52] <@ehsan|reallydinner> now, what's even hotter than firefox os?
763. # [05:52] <@ehsan|reallydinner> per window private browsing, anyone? ;)
764. # [05:53] <@dolske> next-gen sync, yo
765. # [05:53] <@dolske> or Daft Punk's new album.
766. # [05:53] <WeirdAl> smellnet
767. # [05:53] <WeirdAl> ooh, Daft Punk having a new album would be good too
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770. # [05:54] <@dolske> WeirdAl: May. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJwcOiBoZE
771. # [05:54] <@ehsan|reallydinner> nah, I vote for per-window PB
772. # [05:55] <@ehsan|reallydinner> actually, I know what the next version is going to be about
773. # [05:55] <WeirdAl> bah, I'm on Linux and Flash doesn't work here
774. # [05:55] <@ehsan|reallydinner> I just can't tell you yet ;)
775. # [05:55] <smontagu> ehsan|reallydinner: which chrome has had for years?
776. # [05:55] <WeirdAl> never had
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778. # [05:55] <@ehsan|reallydinner> smontagu: you could say that ;)
779. # [05:55] <@dolske> WeirdAl: how about MP3? http://soundisstyle.com/2013/04/daft-punk-get-lucky-feat-pharrell-nile-rodgers.html
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781. # [05:55] <@ehsan|reallydinner> smontagu: another way to put it is, what everybody else has these days
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783. # [05:55] * smontagu votes for dir=auto
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786. # [05:56] <smontagu> so hot it still causes new regressions!
787. # [05:56] <@ehsan|reallydinner> come on guys, I landed a couple of editor cleanups yesterday
788. # [05:56] <WeirdAl> not playing there either dammit
789. # [05:56] <@ehsan|reallydinner> surely they must warrant a new chapter in the book?
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792. # [05:56] <@ehsan|reallydinner> smontagu: hehe, we'll talk once we ship that :P
793. # [05:56] <smontagu> ehsan hits me where it hurts
794. # [05:56] <@ehsan|reallydinner> smontagu: btw, so sorry to have tricked you into implementing my madness there :)
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796. # [05:57] <@ehsan|reallydinner> ok let me fix my nick
797. # [05:57] * ehsan|reallydinner is now known as ehsan|reallydinnerImeanserious
798. # [05:57] <@ehsan|reallydinnerImeanserious> oh
799. # [05:57] <@ehsan|reallydinnerImeanserious> there's a max chars for nicks
800. # [05:58] <@ehsan|reallydinnerImeanserious> who could have predicted that? ;)
801. # [05:58] <WeirdAl> hm, guess I need to visit amazon again
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808. # [06:01] <qDot> How can you be looking for new daft punk when there's new Haxan Cloak to enjoy?
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810. # [06:02] <WeirdAl> bah, both my brothers knew about it before I did... I'm slipping
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817. # [06:07] <@dolske> qDot: =.= are there robots?
818. # [06:07] <qDot> dolske: Nope, only the cold, harsh sounds of an approximation of the afterlife in audio form!
819. # [06:08] <@dolske> oh, so more like Philip Glass?
820. # [06:08] <qDot> Not quite.
821. # [06:09] <qDot> https://soundcloud.com/tri_angle_records/the-haxan-cloak-the-mirror
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827. # [06:12] * @dolske files bug 863123 based on this.
828. # [06:13] <qDot> Wow yeah that is broken.
829. # [06:14] <glob> lol
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831. # [06:14] <@dolske> qDot: this is going to be a cinch at karaoke night.
832. # [06:14] <qDot> dolske: Yeah, most music I listen to would be.
833. # [06:15] <qDot> I tend to shun voices, real instruments, etc. It's all just so... done, ya know?
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835. # [06:16] <@dolske> a coworker's ex-GF once told him "she didn't like jazz because she only liked music with singing".
836. # [06:16] <@dolske> that was pretty rich.
837. # [06:16] <qDot> Hah! Nice.
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863. # [06:31] <aja> any plans for Web MIDI API?
864. # [06:32] <@bz> Unclear
865. # [06:33] * qDot has a task in his todo list to check out the spec.
866. # [06:33] <aja> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/blink-dev/KUx9s-XFdj0
867. # [06:33] <qDot> Had a few audio people I work with asking me about it.
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869. # [06:34] <aja> chris w intent to land ^
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871. # [06:34] <qDot> And a few other audio people going "OMFG JUST LET MIDI DIE".
872. # [06:35] <aja> qDot: musicians?
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874. # [06:36] <qDot> Oh huh there's already jazz-soft based polyfill.
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876. # [06:36] <aja> heh
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878. # [06:36] <qDot> That was my first thought. And chris wilson has already done it. Damn, dude keeps busy.
879. # [06:36] <qDot> aja: Yeah, musicians, control surface manufacturers, etc...
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881. # [06:39] <aja> no doubt it's limited...but there's tons of HW that supports it. dunno about lately, but used to be linqua franqa
882. # [06:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/248daf8c6362 - Chris Pearce - Bug 852915 - Disable MP3 playback using WMF on Win7SP0 to prevent random crashes. r=bbondy
883. # [06:39] <aja> sp?
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885. # [06:39] <qDot> Yeah, still is.
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887. # [06:40] <qDot> We'd like to see something a smidge more modern like OSC or whatever take over.
888. # [06:40] <qDot> But, can't argue 30 years of hardware.
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890. # [06:40] <aja> ...some of which i still own
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905. # [06:49] <@roc> hey hey, Kats is making good progress on APZC
906. # [06:50] <@roc> bz: should we convert bindings.conf headerFile annotations to use HeaderFile attributes instead?
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910. # [06:54] <@dolske> jesus. Web MIDI? _really_?
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912. # [06:55] <@dolske> can't people just implement a Web MOD with audio APIs and get on with life?
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914. # [06:55] <@dolske> bonus points for Web SID, however you do it.
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916. # [06:56] <qDot> 4 channels should be enough for anyone.
917. # [07:00] <@bz> roc: I think so
918. # [07:00] <@bz> roc: of course I also think bindings.conf should die... ;)
919. # [07:01] <@roc> I think so too!
920. # [07:01] <@roc> it's a pain
921. # [07:01] <@bz> roc: if nothing else because changing it means a full recodegen
922. # [07:02] <@bz> roc: which, btw, we need bright ideas on.
923. # [07:02] <@bz> roc: the build situation for the bindings is sucky
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925. # [07:02] <@bz> (heck, a no-op make in that dir takes 2s, just for make to parse the rules!)
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929. # [07:04] <@bz> roc: I'm still looking for a clever way to get rid of the not-addreffed annotation
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931. # [07:05] <@bz> roc: well, short of just biting the bullet and taking the extra branch, of course. ;)
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960. # [07:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c321bc4dc63 - Benoit Girard - Bug 734691 - Port multi-thread support to win/mac. r=snorp,smaug
961. # [07:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e045934f78be - James Willcox - Bug 734691 - Add multi-thread support to profiler r=benwa
962. # [07:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4444510d672f - Benoit Girard - Bug 862500 - Properly shutdown profiler in xpcshell, shutdown and error cases. r=snorp
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964. # [07:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb724d209c4c - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 862113. Fix test for CSS2 pseudo-elements to not trigger assertions. r=dholbert
965. # [07:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b83cfe95da3 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 862610. When we have named constructors, make sure we managed to set up an interface object before looking for them. r=peterv
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967. # [07:22] <@bz> roc: ping
968. # [07:22] <@roc> hi
969. # [07:23] <@bz> roc: got a sec to talk about requestAnimationFrame?
970. # [07:23] <@roc> ok
971. # [07:23] <@bz> roc: So we have two things we need to do with it: unprefix and change the argument passed to the callback
972. # [07:23] <@bz> roc: to be a high-res time
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974. # [07:24] <@bz> roc: the question is what to do with the callback argument to mozRequestAnimationFrame in the process
975. # [07:24] <@bz> roc: We can also make it be the high-res time (so it's just an alias for requestAnimationFrame)
976. # [07:24] <@bz> roc: or we can keep the current behavior...
977. # [07:24] <@bz> roc: thoughts?
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979. # [07:25] <@bz> roc: the biggest risk with changing the behavior is old GWT versions
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983. # [07:26] <@bz> roc: See http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=158910 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753453#c13
984. # [07:27] <@roc> I remember that
985. # [07:27] <@bz> roc: Chrome ended up keeping the old behavior for the prefixed version, also fwiw
986. # [07:27] <@roc> I don't have any non-obvious thoughts
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988. # [07:27] <@bz> ok
989. # [07:27] <@roc> following Chrome sounds good
990. # [07:27] <@roc> in this case :-)
991. # [07:27] <@bz> Yeah
992. # [07:28] <@bz> ok, lemme do tha
993. # [07:28] <@bz> er, that
994. # [07:28] * @bz pokes at how hard this would be to do
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1027. # [07:55] <sfink> can nsISupports.QueryInterface call into JS?
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1033. # [07:57] <@dolske> XPCOMUtils.generateQI says yis.
1034. # [07:58] <sfink> ugh, thanks
1035. # [07:58] <@dolske> it's delightfully terrifying, in a way. :)
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1038. # [07:59] <@dolske> "what if my QI invokes an XHR and a video starts playing and a prompt and a window opens"
1039. # [07:59] <@dolske> APRIL FOOLS!
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1070. # [08:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dab860f1015 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 248daf8c6362 (bug 852915) for Win7 mochitest-1 orange
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1082. # [08:37] <seedo> is this the channel for mozilla ?
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1092. # [08:45] <@bz> sfink: what are you doing with QI?
1093. # [08:45] <Ms2ger> Good morning, bz :)
1094. # [08:46] <@bz> Evening
1095. # [08:46] <@bz> but yes. ;)
1096. # [08:46] * @bz writes his worst code in days
1097. # [08:47] <Ms2ger> Days, eh ;)
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1102. # [08:49] <@bz> yeah
1103. # [08:49] <@bz> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2316282
1104. # [08:50] <@bz> Like that
1105. # [08:50] <Ms2ger> And presumably sfink wants to know if calling QI can GC, and hence if we need to root everything across QI calls
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1107. # [08:51] <Ms2ger> bz, and none of those calls can return null? ;)
1108. # [08:51] <@bz> Ms2ger: nope
1109. # [08:51] <@bz> Ms2ger: _and_ they're crappily named too
1110. # [08:51] <Ms2ger> But that's par for the course :)
1111. # [08:52] <@bz> Ms2ger: But see, Performance() returns a totally different kind of object
1112. # [08:52] <@bz> Ms2ger: so renaming is not so easy....
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1114. # [08:52] <Ms2ger> Oh?
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1117. # [08:54] <seedo> is this the channel for mozilla dev ?
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1119. # [08:55] <Ms2ger> bz, MXR doesn't seem to agree on first sight?
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1126. # [08:56] <@bz> Ms2ger: on which?
1127. # [08:56] <Ms2ger> Performance()
1128. # [08:56] <@bz> Ms2ger: er, sorry
1129. # [08:56] <@bz> Ms2ger: I'm just on crack
1130. # [08:56] <@bz> Ms2ger: So yes, we should do some renaming!
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1136. # [08:58] <KWierso|Home> seedo: yep :)
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1138. # [09:00] <seedo> a browser add-on to keep track of your internet activity. It'll warn you if you're spending too much time on something u rated "not good for me".
1139. # [09:00] <seedo> it gives you daily report of your activity
1140. # [09:00] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/happy-bmo-push-day-41/
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1142. # [09:02] <seedo> we can still keep adding to that
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1146. # [09:05] <Ms2ger> bz, \o/
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1153. # [09:09] <@bz> Ms2ger: now I just need to see whether it compiles and works... ;)
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1155. # [09:09] <Ms2ger> bz, you've only proved it correct? :)
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1157. # [09:10] <@bz> well, I've only proved that nsGlobalWindow.o, nsDocument.o, and nsrefreshDriver.o compile
1158. # [09:10] <@bz> whether the _rest_ of the tree compiles....
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1167. # [09:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfc7718d631a - Mike Hommey - Bug 848764 - Enable on-demand decompression. r=blassey
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1169. # [09:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b8dcd393805 - Mike Hommey - Bug 859705 - Un-szip libraries before pushing them on the device for xpcshell tests. r=ted
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1192. # [09:29] <@bz> aaand fail
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1194. # [09:30] <@bz> because strings
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1221. # [09:44] <gaston> gps: any idea for http://buildbot.rhaalovely.net/builders/comm-central-amd64/builds/706/steps/configure/logs/stdio ?
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1279. # [10:27] <reuben> was try reset recently?
1280. # [10:27] <reuben> KWierso|Home: did you notice if the tbpl problem was fixed after we talked yesterday?
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1284. # [10:32] <kanru`> if I made a function call from a JavaScript component and that calls into a native xpcom service that calls back to the same JavaScript component again
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1286. # [10:32] <kanru`> I somehow get corrupted JS stack. JS engine complains too deep recursion on a unrelated function
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1298. # [10:42] <filiptanu> I have a question about the MDN CSS Generation Tools GSoC2013 project: I've made a simple interactive tool for the box-shadow css property https://www.googledrive.com/host/0B2UiZ9TZkgjNSi03UmpQOGdaVEE/ so I just wanted to ask if that's the idea of the project and I'm going in the right direction, or I should change something
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1304. # [10:46] <jdm> filiptanu: I suggest either waiting for teoli to show up on IRC or send him an email
1305. # [10:47] <filiptanu> I already sent him an email :)
1306. # [10:47] <ewong> reuben: yes.. it was reset quite a few weeks ago..
1307. # [10:48] <reuben> ewong: oh, I know about that one, I mean recently as in today
1308. # [10:48] <ewong> reuben: oh.. that I don't know.. don't think so.
1309. # [10:50] <ewong> edmorley: ping
1310. # [10:50] <edmorley> ewong: hi
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1312. # [10:51] <ewong> edmorley: hi.. if you have time, can you point out (re: bug 823620) whether it is sufficient enough to just ignore the 'add' user command when a repeat is entered?
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1314. # [10:51] <ewong> edmorley: having some difficulty figuring out how to display "User exists" message..
1315. # [10:52] <edmorley> ewong: yeah I guess that would be fine - anything's better than adding a dupe :-)
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1317. # [10:52] <ewong> edmorley: ok. if I find a way to have a 'User exists' message pop up or something, I'll add it to the pull request..
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1320. # [10:53] <edmorley> thank you
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1326. # [10:57] <ewong> edmorley: thanks!
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1329. # [11:01] <glazou> filiptanu: wow, very nice è
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1331. # [11:03] <filiptanu> glazou: ty :)
1332. # [11:03] <glazou> I may reuse this in BlueGriffon, if you agree of course
1333. # [11:03] <glazou> filiptanu: may I ask why you used a canvas ?
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1336. # [11:06] <filiptanu> glazou: well, in the project details, there aren't any suggestions on how to make the interactive tools, so I just went with canvas... any suggestion or criticism is welcome, that's why I posted it here :)
1337. # [11:08] <glazou> filiptanu: maybe all you need is a <div> for the white container and another one for the blue box and you apply the CSS box-shadow "on the fly" to that one
1338. # [11:08] <glazou> and your event listeners are on the outermost one
1339. # [11:11] <edmorley> glandium: your push doesn't look very happy
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1341. # [11:11] <filiptanu> glazou: thanks for the tip :) until the application for GSoC is open, I'll make few more of these tools, and I'll use your suggestion in the next ones
1342. # [11:11] <glandium> edmorley: that blows my mind. it worked on try :(
1343. # [11:12] <edmorley> glandium: needs clobber?
1344. # [11:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37bbd241f79a - Mike Hommey - Disable on-demand decompression (bug 848764)
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1346. # [11:13] <glandium> edmorley: it shouldn't
1347. # [11:13] <edmorley> glandium: although the configure change should have forced that anyway
1348. # [11:13] <jdm> filiptanu: woah, that's snazzy
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1354. # [11:19] <KWierso|Home> reuben: try seemed to start working on tbpl sometime after you pointed out it not working
1355. # [11:19] <filiptanu> jdm: thanks
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1361. # [11:21] <glazou> filiptanu: change color to 'red' type CR key, scroll wheel to increase blur ray, things go crazy
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1365. # [11:23] <glazou> filiptanu: so the wheel is for the blur radius right ? what about the spread-radius ?
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1367. # [11:23] <glandium> edmorley: the backout does require a clobber, though
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1369. # [11:24] <filiptanu> glazou: I haven't implemented it yet
1370. # [11:24] <glazou> filiptanu: I recommend shift+wheel
1371. # [11:25] <glandium> edmorley: am i just being unlucky (besides the xpcshell thing)
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1373. # [11:25] <filiptanu> it's just a demo, to see whether I got the point of the project :)
1374. # [11:26] <edmorley> glandium: possibly, the talos failures look particularly unusual though (in those quantities anyway)
1375. # [11:26] <glazou> filiptanu: you also need inset shadows...
1376. # [11:26] <filiptanu> glazou: for the next ones, I'll make sure I follow your suggestions
1377. # [11:27] <filiptanu> yup :)
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1381. # [11:30] <glandium> edmorley: any idea why the builds are still pending on my push?
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1384. # [11:31] <edmorley> no idea
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1387. # [11:32] <edmorley> the general pattern goes like: I complain in #releng / file a bug... by the time US wakes up and reads bug, pending jobs have started... "everything looks fine to me, closing bug"
1388. # [11:32] <edmorley> so I tend to not file them straight away any more, just not worth it
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1390. # [11:32] <filiptanu> btw, a general GSoC question: should I make a blog (or a personal wiki page, like some of the other GSoC projects require) to post stuff like this and the GSoC application? or mail and irc communication is sufficient?
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1393. # [11:35] <glazou> filiptanu: make a blog and file a bug to have it copied to planet.mozilla.org
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1401. # [11:41] <filiptanu> glazou: ty
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1516. # [13:27] <RyanVM> ugh
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1518. # [13:27] * RyanVM rues the WebP take 2 bug
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1523. # [13:28] <gaston> oh, someone tries harder to be duplicated ? :)
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1526. # [13:29] <glandium> RyanVM: well, you can't expect people to behave on these type of bugs
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1529. # [13:30] <RyanVM> yep, it was too much to ask after the last one
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1536. # [13:32] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: yeah, there are bugs you should know better than to get cc'd on although I guess now you can ignore that bug :)
1537. # [13:32] <glandium> that being said, the last message before yours was interesting (albeit OT) ; i didn't know animated webp aren't backwards compatible, which is a pretty huge wtf
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1540. # [13:33] <glandium> it's like if animated pngs would not display in browsers that only support png
1541. # [13:33] <glandium> not even the first frame, that is
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1550. # [13:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a2549ffefae - Andres Hernandez - Bug 854288 - Remove PlaceUtils.restoreBookmarksFromJSONFile in PlacesUtils.jsm. r=mak
1551. # [13:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78087f47be49 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 855412 - Change the signature of NS_NewSVGRect to not use the outparam. r=Ms2ger
1552. # [13:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35164eb6ba01 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 862520 - Disable quickCheckAPI-B2.html on Windows XP. r=jgilbert
1553. # [13:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55823b3dbdeb - Sudheera Palihakkara - Bug 327598 - Set the return value of RemoveElementAt to void instead of bool. r=Neil
1554. # [13:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7621b9481f50 - Cykesiopka - Bug 530352 - Remove last nsIFileSpec comment. r=vlad
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1557. # [13:41] <RyanVM> padenot: ping
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1559. # [13:43] <padenot> RyanVM: pong
1560. # [13:43] <RyanVM> padenot: so bug 786539
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1562. # [13:43] <RyanVM> massive spike for the last couple days
1563. # [13:44] <RyanVM> i'm suspecting bug 861936
1564. # [13:44] <RyanVM> unless you feel otherwise, I'm inclined to back it out speculatively
1565. # [13:44] <padenot> nah
1566. # [13:44] <RyanVM> because OSX M1 is nearly perma-orange right now
1567. # [13:44] <padenot> it it not even compiled on osx
1568. # [13:44] <padenot> I mean bug 861936 is linux specific code
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1570. # [13:45] <padenot> you know what, I'll have a look right now, I have a mac handy
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1572. # [13:46] <RyanVM> thanks
1573. # [13:46] <RyanVM> I believe the regressor is in here - https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startID=24552&endID=24553
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1576. # [13:47] <RyanVM> padenot: Bug 834835
1577. # [13:47] <RyanVM> roc: ping
1578. # [13:47] <RyanVM> (on the off chance)
1579. # [13:47] <@roc> hi
1580. # [13:48] <RyanVM> going back on inbound, Bug 834835 looks like when bug 786539 spiked on OSX
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1583. # [13:49] <@roc> could be I suppose, although I would have thought none of the code touched in bug 786539 is touched by bug 834835
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1585. # [13:50] <RyanVM> i'm going to back it out
1586. # [13:50] <RyanVM> we'll see what happens
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1588. # [13:50] <RyanVM> we can always re-land if it doesn't settle down
1589. # [13:51] <@roc> we disabled test_timeupdate_small_files.html for timeouts on windows already
1590. # [13:51] <RyanVM> so if we're just disabling it everywhere, what's the point of having it?
1591. # [13:51] <RyanVM> let's just rm it and get it over with
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1593. # [13:52] <RyanVM> since apparently we don't care if it actually passes anywhere or not
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1597. # [13:53] <RyanVM> and using "we already disabled it on another OS because nobody felt like looking at it" as justification to disable it again is...depressing
1598. # [13:53] <@roc> I thought padenot was going to look at it
1599. # [13:54] <padenot> yes, I am
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1604. # [13:56] <RyanVM> padenot: great, let me know how it goes. I'll hold off on pushing the backout for now.
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1609. # [14:01] <NeilAway> RyanVM: thanks for tweaking that commit message ;-)
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1611. # [14:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6f992295d9ac - Victor Porof - Bug 861783 - Removing watch expression of large object not possible via mouse, r=past
1612. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3af1161f4214 - Girish Sharma - Bug 862294 - Sidebar should be responsive in docked Toolbox, r=vporof
1613. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/286cf3d33281 - Victor Porof - Bug 862198 - Intermittent browser_net_json-long.js | Test timed out, found a tab, r=rcampbell
1614. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bd899fcceeab - Panos Astithas - Bug 849071 - Create some kind of chrome to turn source mapping on/off in the debugger, r=vporof
1615. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d3c89e5eabfa - Victor Porof - Bug 859308 - Hide Blocked in Timings tab until we know what that's doing, r=rcampbell
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1617. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/466e5c7124ce - Victor Porof - Bug 862435 - Tilt doesn't open if the Inspector was opened beforehand, r=dtownsend
1618. # [14:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e6a7681887f7 - Victor Porof - Bug 861487 - Sizes are displayed with non-localized decimal separator, r=rcampbell
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1622. # [14:03] <RyanVM> NeilAway: np :)
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1624. # [14:04] <vd> BenWa: hi
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1630. # [14:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f992295d9ac - Victor Porof - Bug 861783 - Removing watch expression of large object not possible via mouse, r=past
1631. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/caf3832d2066 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
1632. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd899fcceeab - Panos Astithas - Bug 849071 - Create some kind of chrome to turn source mapping on/off in the debugger, r=vporof
1633. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3af1161f4214 - Girish Sharma - Bug 862294 - Sidebar should be responsive in docked Toolbox, r=vporof
1634. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6a7681887f7 - Victor Porof - Bug 861487 - Sizes are displayed with non-localized decimal separator, r=rcampbell
1635. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/466e5c7124ce - Victor Porof - Bug 862435 - Tilt doesn't open if the Inspector was opened beforehand, r=dtownsend
1636. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d3c89e5eabfa - Victor Porof - Bug 859308 - Hide Blocked in Timings tab until we know what that's doing, r=rcampbell
1637. # [14:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/286cf3d33281 - Victor Porof - Bug 862198 - Intermittent browser_net_json-long.js | Test timed out, found a tab, r=rcampbell
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1643. # [14:08] <vd> RyanVM: ping
1644. # [14:09] <RyanVM> vd: pong
1645. # [14:09] <RyanVM> BenWa: ping
1646. # [14:09] <RyanVM> BenWa: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21947004&tree=Mozilla-Inbound :(
1647. # [14:10] <vd> RyanVM: I have a question about the state of a patch - it was review+ 'ed with some minor suggestions and now I uploaded a new patch and set review+ , but now it looks like that I did the review myself
1648. # [14:10] <RyanVM> vd: that's fine
1649. # [14:10] <vd> (the patch is for Bug 860827)
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1651. # [14:11] <RyanVM> vd: as long as the old patch shows r+ from a peer and their review comment indicates that, it's not a big deal
1652. # [14:11] <vd> RyanVM: ok, then I will set checkin-needed
1653. # [14:11] <vd> that is visible when you click "Show Obsolete"
1654. # [14:11] <RyanVM> yes
1655. # [14:11] * RyanVM readies the BenWa backout
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1657. # [14:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa5d5fccbc11 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 734691, bug 862500) for leaks.
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1662. # [14:15] <RyanVM> vd: one thing that would help
1663. # [14:16] <vd> yes?
1664. # [14:16] <RyanVM> vd: your patch is misisng the hg commit info
1665. # [14:16] <RyanVM> vd: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_FAQ#How_can_I_generate_a_patch_for_somebody_else_to_check-in_for_me.3F
1666. # [14:16] <RyanVM> makes my life easier when it's there :)
1667. # [14:16] * vd looking...
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1672. # [14:17] <RyanVM> vd: just something for next time :)
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1674. # [14:18] <vd> ah, ok, was just going to upload a new one :)
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1676. # [14:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25d7bd2fd8d9 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 863025 - Fix nsUniversalDetector overlooking the UTF-16 BOM. r=smontagu
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1678. # [14:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a945d76d4e4e - Vasil Dimov - Bug 860827 - Add unit tests for ReadSysFile(). r=dhylands, r=BenWa
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1680. # [14:19] <vd> thanks!
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1684. # [14:20] <RyanVM> np :)
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1687. # [14:21] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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1689. # [14:21] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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1691. # [14:21] <yzen> Yoric: hi, i just wanted to consult about a couple of patches from me if you have a moment
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1693. # [14:22] <Yoric> Let me finish a review, I'll be with you in ~3 minutes.
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1695. # [14:22] <yzen> great
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1698. # [14:27] <KaiRo> jandem: so you'd need minidump access, do I understand you correctly there?
1699. # [14:27] <Yoric> yzen: ready
1700. # [14:27] <yzen> cool
1701. # [14:27] <jandem> KaiRo: yes, or if somebody else could disassemble a bunch of them for me that could work too…
1702. # [14:28] <yzen> Yoric: I guess https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833286 first
1703. # [14:28] <KaiRo> jandem: if so, who's your manager (will need approval from him)
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1706. # [14:28] <jandem> KaiRo: Naveed Ihsanullah
1707. # [14:28] <Yoric> (today, review requests happen faster than I can perform reviews :) )
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1709. # [14:28] <KaiRo> jandem: we should be able to get access for you directly - I'll file a bug
1710. # [14:28] <Yoric> I guess I must have become peer at some point.
1711. # [14:28] * naveed looks up from what he was doing
1712. # [14:28] <Yoric> Which I have.
1713. # [14:29] <Yoric> yzen: I'm all ears.
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1716. # [14:29] <yzen> Yoric: haha :) im clear on all of them but one: ttaubert mentioned saving only once, i guess, which is why I had that flag in earlier iteration
1717. # [14:29] <yzen> Yoric: the backedUp flag that is
1718. # [14:29] <Yoric> Well, maybe I told you something stupid :)
1719. # [14:29] <Yoric> Let me check.
1720. # [14:30] <Yoric> ttaubert has more experience than me on session restore
1721. # [14:30] <reuben> TypeError: "".match is not a function
1722. # [14:30] <reuben> wat
1723. # [14:30] <naveed> KaiRo: I will be on the lookout for the approval for jandem. Will it come in via email?
1724. # [14:31] <yzen> Yoric: so in order to do it only once, i d either have to move it back to init, which will change the sequential behaviour of backup-write or I would have to have toe flag back again. But perhaps you have a better suggestion :)
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1726. # [14:33] <KaiRo> naveed: thanks, bug 863215 is where we need this approval
1727. # [14:33] <ttaubert> yzen: you could also define a lazy getter returning a promise and call it like |promise = this._backupSessionFileOnce()|
1728. # [14:34] <ttaubert> yzen: there's a couple of lazy getters being defined in init functions
1729. # [14:34] <naveed> KaiRo: done thanks
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1731. # [14:34] <KaiRo> naveed: cool, thanks
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1733. # [14:34] <jandem> naveed, KaiRo: thanks!
1734. # [14:35] <Yoric> yzen: ttaubert's solution looks elegant.
1735. # [14:35] <KaiRo> jandem: I'll ping laura as well once she's online, and then we'll be able to hand this over to IT to do the LDAP magic :)
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1737. # [14:35] <Yoric> (although essentially equivalent)
1738. # [14:36] <jandem> KaiRo: excellent
1739. # [14:36] <Yoric> I believe that I made a mistake and assumed that _resume_from_crash was reset once startup was complete.
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1741. # [14:36] <ttaubert> Yoric: right, it just looks a little nicer, it's not really better :)
1742. # [14:36] <yzen> ttaubert, Yoric thanks, ill do that then :)
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1745. # [14:37] <KaiRo> jandem: just be careful with the powers this will give you (including access to URLs and emails, and whatnot info on crashes - private info on users should not leak to the public, o course)
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1747. # [14:37] <yzen> Yoric: ok so i think 833286 is all clear now, another one - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=862570
1748. # [14:37] <KaiRo> with great powers comes grwat responsibitity ;-)
1749. # [14:37] <jandem> KaiRo: of course!
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1751. # [14:38] <jandem> *weird irc client underlining issue
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1756. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
1757. # [14:39] <Yoric> hi
1758. # [14:39] <yzen> Yoric: I was wondering why you did not want to the preference cleared..
1759. # [14:39] <yzen> Yoric: doesnt it mean that on the restart it will attach a test listener as well automatically ?
1760. # [14:40] <Yoric> Because it is rather weird to set the preference in client code (the test) and reset it automatically.
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1764. # [14:40] <froydnj> RyanVM++
1765. # [14:40] <KaiRo> jandem: seems that you or your client likes to send strange characters ;-)
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1767. # [14:41] <RyanVM> oh boy, what did I do now? :)
1768. # [14:41] <jandem> KaiRo: yes colloquy has some shortcut to turn on underlining, and i hit it accidentally all the time
1769. # [14:41] * jandem still has to look for a better irc client
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1771. # [14:42] <froydnj> RyanVM: the "dumping ground" comment on webp take 2
1772. # [14:42] <jandem> (the other problem is logs stored in xml format)
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1774. # [14:42] <RyanVM> froydnj :)
1775. # [14:42] <yzen> Yoric: alright, ill change that, originally I though that was pretty elegant too :) . ill push it to try once more when i merge it with your v2 patch from the dependency bug ?
1776. # [14:43] <KaiRo> jandem: ah, ok... I really like XChat, FWIW
1777. # [14:43] <Yoric> I believe that it is elegant, but that people are not going to realize that this is the behavior :)
1778. # [14:44] <Yoric> yzen: Sounds good.
1779. # [14:44] <yzen> Yoric: thanks, ill try to make the changes asap
1780. # [14:44] <Yoric> yzen: cool :)
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1795. # [14:54] <RyanVM> vd: inbound bustage
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1806. # [14:59] <vd> RyanVM: due to http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a945d76d4e4e ?
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1809. # [14:59] <RyanVM> vd: yes, from your push
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1811. # [14:59] <vd> doh, where is the error message?
1812. # [14:59] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21954881&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
1813. # [15:00] <vd> hmm
1814. # [15:00] <edmorley> RyanVM: weird
1815. # [15:00] <RyanVM> vd: ifdef troubles?
1816. # [15:00] <_AxS_> hey all.. i was here two days ago asking a couple of questions about adding stuffs to prefs.js ; i think it was msucan that gave me a couple of good references in the m-c codebase. Unfortunately it seems I didn't keep the backlog, was wondering if i could get those references again?
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1818. # [15:01] <_AxS_> Specifically, what i'm looking for is the correct way to add an entry to prefs for linux systems only (since it's not relevant for non-linux ones)
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1820. # [15:01] <jandem> _AxS_: we have IRC logs here: http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers
1821. # [15:02] <vd> RyanVM: yes, kind of, this is not supposed to go in windows builds, I am sorry about that
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1823. # [15:02] <_AxS_> jandem: sweet, tnx!!
1824. # [15:02] <jandem> _AxS_: yw :)
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1827. # [15:02] <RyanVM> vd: should I back you out for now or do you have an easy fix?
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1829. # [15:03] <vd> RyanVM: if you tell me that the macro XP_UNIX is a generic macro that is enabled on all unix-like platforms, then I will have an easy fix, otherwise I will have to search for such a macro or if none is present I will have to chain if LINUX || MACOS || whatever
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1832. # [15:04] <padenot> RyanVM: I can repro locally, trying to backout stuff locally now
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1839. # [15:05] <RyanVM> vd: I don't know offhand
1840. # [15:05] <RyanVM> vd: I'll just back you out for now
1841. # [15:05] <RyanVM> padenot: great, thanks
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1844. # [15:06] <vd> RyanVM: yes, back out for now
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1846. # [15:06] <vd> I am now looking for an appropriate macro...
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1851. # [15:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62d955cfe160 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset a945d76d4e4e (bug 860827) for Windows bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
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1854. # [15:08] <vd> RyanVM: what is a "CLOSED TREE" ?
1855. # [15:08] <RyanVM> vd: I had inbound closed to any other checkins until this was resolved
1856. # [15:08] <_AxS_> vd: generally it would be one that's signed off for release / production , ie, one that no further development should be occurring on
1857. # [15:08] <RyanVM> so we're not landing on top of bustage
1858. # [15:09] <vd> I see
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1860. # [15:09] <_AxS_> ..apparently the meaning is slightly different in m-c/m-i ...?
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1864. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, it prevents people from pushing unless they include magic words in the commit messages
1865. # [15:10] <_AxS_> that is a very useful feature.
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1867. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> _AxS_, to make sure people don't push while their code can't be tested
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1872. # [15:12] <RyanVM> _AxS_ : it's a vital feature IMO :)
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1874. # [15:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e587fa3484d5 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 862777: Hook Odinmonkey up to the spewlogger, r=luke
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1876. # [15:14] <gaston> vd: if you need to do some ifdefs for macos|linux, dont forget about the bsds.. or you'll break me, and i'll hunt you :)
1877. # [15:15] <RyanVM> heh
1878. # [15:15] <gaston> oh, but that's a freebsd patch \o/
1879. # [15:15] <vd> gaston: what? me? :)
1880. # [15:15] * RyanVM assumed that somewith with @freebsd.org in his email address would be aware :P
1881. # [15:15] <Yoric> gaston: By the way, does FF20 work nicely on bsd?
1882. # [15:15] <vd> ;-)
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1885. # [15:15] <gaston> vd: disregarde what i said, and i'm pleased to see another bsd contributor :)
1886. # [15:15] <gaston> Yoric: 20, 21, 22, 23...
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1888. # [15:16] <gaston> although 21.0b1 is busted on powerpc and i need to figure out why
1889. # [15:16] <Yoric> gaston: Good. Porting I/O to OS.File has broken Firefox on enough platforms as is :)
1890. # [15:16] <vd> gaston: nice to meet you! :)
1891. # [15:16] <padenot> gaston: hi, what would be a good person to ask about audio stuff on freebsd?
1892. # [15:16] <gaston> padenot: not me :)
1893. # [15:17] <gaston> Yoric: is OS.File in use with regular browsing habits ? i'm not sure if it's tested 100%..
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1896. # [15:17] <Yoric> gaston: Yeah, these days, you need OS.File to even enter a URL or perform a search.
1897. # [15:17] <gaston> padenot: but i cant direct you to the audio hackers on openbsd :)
1898. # [15:18] <gaston> Yoric: oh then it works fine...
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1902. # [15:18] <padenot> gaston: an email adress would be fine, so I can chat about the stuff we are going to do on the audio backend in firefox
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1907. # [15:19] <gaston> padenot: ratchov@caoua.org is doing sndio on openbsd
1908. # [15:19] <gaston> padenot: he already did the sndio backend for libcubeb, and i was planning to make him do webrtc audio stuff..
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1913. # [15:20] <padenot> gaston: cool
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1920. # [15:21] <gaston> but first i need to have webrtc working :)
1921. # [15:21] <jlebar|6th_floor> RyanVM: So we're doing a good cop / bad cop show in the new webp bug? It's interesting for me to be the good cop...
1922. # [15:22] <RyanVM> jlebar: heh :)
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1924. # [15:22] <RyanVM> don't know about "we" at this point
1925. # [15:22] <gaston> jlebar|6th_floor: share the fun^Wbug# !
1926. # [15:22] <RyanVM> I un-CCed :)
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1928. # [15:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76af6021d5d1 - Jacek Caban - Bug 863221 - Crash in nsBaseWidget::NotifyUIStateChanged when GetPresShell returns NULL. r=roc
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1930. # [15:23] <jlebar|6th_floor> gaston: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856375, if you dare
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1933. # [15:24] <gaston> ah, so it's a cabal
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1936. # [15:25] <vd> XP_UNIX seems to be the one - defined on all but windows and os2 in ./configure.in, but would it be defined in b2g builds...
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1938. # [15:26] <edmorley> jlebar|6th_floor: we could just request that the restrict comments bit gets set
1939. # [15:27] <gaston> what does it set ? only people with editbugs can comment ?
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1941. # [15:27] <edmorley> gaston: yeah or canconfirm, forget which
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1944. # [15:29] <@ted> huh
1945. # [15:29] <@ted> i didn't know we had that
1946. # [15:29] <gaston> comments are indeed depressing :)
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1977. # [15:39] <RyanVM> BenWa: urge to kill rising yet?
1978. # [15:40] <RyanVM> gaston: for optimum torture, read the first webp bug
1979. # [15:40] <RyanVM> gaston: i.e. the motivator for filing that one
1980. # [15:40] <BenWa> RyanVM: Frustrating yes. Our init code is a POS
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1983. # [15:40] <gaston> RyanVM: i think i already skimmed through it, and it was also depressing
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1986. # [15:41] <BenWa> We refcount the reference counter and will print leak stats when the count goes to zero, which is different for everything (gecko, plugins, xpcshell, unittest, etc…)
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1989. # [15:43] <_AxS_> gaston: hey ; that dictionary patch you pasted yesterday, got a q: your patch occurrs after the attempt at loading from DICTIONARY_SEARCH_DIRECTORY , the gentoo patch occurrs before (and therefore skips that attempt).. Just wondering if you know why your patch does it the way you do, ie, what the advantage is of doing it that way?
1990. # [15:43] <_AxS_> s/yesterday/tuesday/
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1997. # [15:45] <gaston> _AxS_: no idea, it was already here when i took over maintenance of the port, and the previous maintainer was... mia
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1999. # [15:45] <_AxS_> gaston: 'k, tnx.
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2015. # [15:55] <bsmedberg> vlad: ping
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2018. # [15:56] <vlad> bsmedberg: pong
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2023. # [15:57] <bsmedberg> vlad: is this a new laptop? Do you think if I ordered an identical one I'd reproduce this?
2024. # [15:57] <vlad> bsmedberg: it's on a lenovo W520, we have some around all the offices
2025. # [15:57] <vlad> with a fresh windows 8 install and not much else
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2028. # [15:57] <vlad> I haven't seen it in a while though
2029. # [15:57] <vlad> (like not since yesterday morning)
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2031. # [15:58] <vlad> I lie
2032. # [15:58] <vlad> I'm seeing it right now
2033. # [15:58] <bsmedberg> heh
2034. # [15:58] <bsmedberg> are you viewing PDFs?
2035. # [15:58] <vlad> nope
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2039. # [15:58] <vlad> I've used this browser instance very little
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2041. # [15:58] <vlad> zimbra, gmail, some bugs, a few dxr lookups, and I have a tab open with engadget
2042. # [15:58] <_AxS_> vlad: i've got a 520, what's the issue?
2043. # [15:58] <_AxS_> oh, win8, nvm
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2047. # [15:59] <vlad> bsmedberg: same symptoms, vmmaps "Shareable" pool is huge
2048. # [15:59] <bsmedberg> My other theory was that this was us taking tab previews
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2051. # [15:59] <bsmedberg> vlad: so from what I can tell, the next best way to figure this out is going to require a kernel debugger
2052. # [15:59] <bsmedberg> vlad: I'm just trying to figure out the best way to make that happen
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2055. # [16:00] <vlad> can xperf track some of it?
2056. # [16:00] <vlad> or process monitor?
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2064. # [16:07] <vlad> I'm using vmmap in its tracing mode
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2067. # [16:07] <vlad> it seems to be able to capture traces for these things
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2069. # [16:08] <bsmedberg> that's good, I didn't know that
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2072. # [16:09] <Ms2ger> smontagu, http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/submissions/83/html/dom/elements/global-attributes/document-dir.html btw
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2074. # [16:10] <vlad> bsmedberg: yeah, vmmap can actually capture all the info
2075. # [16:10] <vlad> so far all of thse things are coming via VirtualAllocEx
2076. # [16:10] <smontagu> Ms2ger: sweet
2077. # [16:11] <bsmedberg> that's surprising, I wonder how that works
2078. # [16:11] <vlad> although I think I just clicked something stupid
2079. # [16:11] <vlad> so I asked it to display a ridiculous amount of info
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2087. # [16:16] <vlad> bsmedberg: ok, running it again with vmmap logging things
2088. # [16:17] <vlad> oh hey, symbols work now too
2089. # [16:17] <vd> RyanVM: prepared a new patch, is there some experimental tree to push just to check that it does not break things?
2090. # [16:17] <vlad> bsmedberg: this tool is awesome, I had completely forgotten about it
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2092. # [16:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4078a8fd22ce - SimonJ - bug 602814 - fix parsing of connection http response header r=mcmanus
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2095. # [16:19] <RyanVM> vd: Try :)
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2097. # [16:20] <RyanVM> vd: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
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2099. # [16:20] <RyanVM> though that assumes you have level 1 commit access
2100. # [16:21] <vd> To use try server, you need a Mozilla hg account (level 1 is sufficient).
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2102. # [16:21] <RyanVM> i can push it for you
2103. # [16:21] <vd> hmm, I should apply for level 1, let me find the relevant doc...
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2106. # [16:22] <RyanVM> vd: http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/commit-access-policy/
2107. # [16:22] <RyanVM> vd: and yes, you probably should :)
2108. # [16:22] <vd> yes, just rereading it now...
2109. # [16:23] <vd> hmm, I need a voucher
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2113. # [16:23] <sachin_h> Is there a better way to log information into the console than to use "dump" ? I find it hard to see what is inside objects with dump.
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2117. # [16:24] <Ms2ger> vd, I'll vouch
2118. # [16:24] <vd> Ms2ger: thank you!
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2125. # [16:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22ed2b874b4a - L. David Baron - Bug 847279 - Fix incorrect relativesrcdir in other mochitest makefiles. r=mbrubeck
2126. # [16:30] * bz_sleep is now known as bz
2127. # [16:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/76fb1757892d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 4 changesets (bug 834835) for making bug 786539 nearly perma-orange.
2128. # [16:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46280589c1dc - Ben Kelly - Bug 847279 - Fix hardcoded path names in mochitests to match relativesrcdir. r=mbrubeck
2129. # [16:30] <RyanVM> padenot: so I accidentally just pushed the backout on bug 834835 (qpush -a fail)
2130. # [16:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/896d943683eb - Ben Kelly - Bug 847279 - Update the android.json test exclusions to make new relativesrcdir paths. r=mbrubeck
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2132. # [16:31] <RyanVM> padenot: so I guess we'll see what happens :P
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2134. # [16:31] <Ms2ger> Good morning bz :)
2135. # [16:32] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, ping
2136. # [16:32] <mayhemer> cool
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2138. # [16:33] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: pong... grrr... window switch
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2140. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, what's the class that implements nsIDOMStorage now?
2141. # [16:33] <padenot> RyanVM: I'm still testing, but it is hard to repro locally
2142. # [16:33] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: DOMStorage
2143. # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Ta
2144. # [16:33] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: in DOMStorage.cpp file
2145. # [16:34] <RyanVM> padenot: OK
2146. # [16:34] <@bz> ms2ger: g'morning
2147. # [16:34] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, and does it have some way to get at a window?
2148. # [16:34] <Yoric> Could someone recommend me a toolk that would let me inspect diffs more or less as splinter reviews permits?
2149. # [16:35] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: don't you talk about the DOM proxy stuff or so? :)
2150. # [16:35] <Yoric> (I'm on MacOS X)
2151. # [16:35] <Ms2ger> Right
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2153. # [16:35] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: hmm... let me check
2154. # [16:35] <gaston> Yoric: meld
2155. # [16:35] <gaston> http://meldmerge.org/
2156. # [16:36] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: at the moment it just holds principal of the caller that primarily demanded the object
2157. # [16:36] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: it's in 99% cases the window's principal
2158. # [16:36] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: we need to enhance it a bit to also add ref to the window, and also prevent any leaks
2159. # [16:36] <Yoric> gaston: I'll give it a try, thanks.
2160. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> So tell me about the 1% :)
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2163. # [16:37] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: I think it can happen when a chrome code demands localStorage or sessionStorage object to inspect on that is bound to some arbitrary domain (origin)
2164. # [16:37] <Ms2ger> Hmmm
2165. # [16:37] <bsmedberg> joe: "option + other"?
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2167. # [16:37] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: then the principal doesn't belong to the window that actually the data are bound to
2168. # [16:38] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: however
2169. # [16:38] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: the cache object under the DOMStorage object hold the principal the cache belongs to
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2171. # [16:38] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: check https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/Storage/Implementation how the implementation works, that's an overview document
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2173. # [16:39] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, wow, documentation, that was unexpected ;)
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2176. # [16:40] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: it was so large overhaul that I wanted to help reviewers as much as possible to get through it :)
2177. # [16:40] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: and what is the best, the documentation is actually up to date :)
2178. # [16:40] <Ms2ger> mayhemer++
2179. # [16:41] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: maybe this can give you a quick understanding: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/src/storage/DOMStorageCache.h#175
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2181. # [16:43] <jdm> bsmedberg: you really want ArrayBufferInputStream in netwerk? I figured it fit in well with the other input streams in xpcom/io.
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2183. # [16:43] <bsmedberg> jdm: well, I want those in netwerk as well
2184. # [16:43] <jdm> heh, ok
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2187. # [16:45] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, do you see obvious issues with trying to pass a Window to nsIDOMStorageManager::CreateStorage?
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2189. # [16:45] <Ms2ger> And ::PrecacheStorage, I guess
2190. # [16:46] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: only think is that we need to introduce cycle collection back, but that is of course doable
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2192. # [16:46] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: question is, do you want to object on DOMStorage (nsIDOMStorage)
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2194. # [16:46] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: or on the cache?
2195. # [16:46] <RyanVM> padenot: anyway, I'll trigger a bunch of extra OSX M1 runs on the backout and we'll see what we get
2196. # [16:47] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, I don't know :)
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2198. # [16:47] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: aha :) I didn't check your work on the proxy stuff, so I don't know either
2199. # [16:47] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, I just need to be able to return the right window from DOMStorage::GetParentObject
2200. # [16:47] <Ms2ger> ehsan|reallydinnerImeanserious, still?
2201. # [16:47] <padenot> RyanVM: yes, we'll see
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2203. # [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c81d0474b833 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 825739 - Add logging for intermittent browser_bookmark_titles.js failure
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2205. # [16:48] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: hmm.. I have to read more to answer this, I don't know how the proxy stuff works at all
2206. # [16:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7610346a34ee - Mike Hommey - Fixup for bug 859705 - Add missing return. r=me. DONTBUILD
2207. # [16:48] <ehsan> Ms2ger: hehe, no!
2208. # [16:49] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: maybe for a DOMStorage object that is not created by a window but by a chrome code there should be no ParentObject
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2210. # [16:50] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, hm, you can create DOMStorage objects that aren't bound to a window?
2211. # [16:50] <joe> bsmedberg: eg option+o = ø
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2213. # [16:50] <bsmedberg> joe: I was mainly looking for the way to figure out the code for the copyright symbol and then type it
2214. # [16:50] <joe> ah
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2216. # [16:50] <joe> my method is to try every character, then every shifted character
2217. # [16:50] <joe> it isn't very fast
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2219. # [16:51] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: you can call the DOMStorageManager from a chrome code (to inspect the content or clean the storage, whatever)
2220. # [16:51] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: and they don't have to be in particular bound to a window
2221. # [16:51] <bsmedberg> joe: I mean, I could just use google for "unicode copyright" to find that it's 00a9 and then type that in using unicode hex
2222. # [16:51] <vlad> bsmedberg: damnit, vmmap isn't a 64-bit process
2223. # [16:51] <vlad> I hope I hit the problem before it runs out of memory :p
2224. # [16:52] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, I see
2225. # [16:52] <bsmedberg> joe: but I was hoping I could just copy the character out of the character viewer then way I can on Windows and used to on mac
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2227. # [16:52] <bsmedberg> but apparently mountain lion character map doesn't let you copy?
2228. # [16:52] <joe> ©
2229. # [16:52] <joe> double click
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2232. # [16:53] <joe> edit > special characters...
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2234. # [16:53] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: but as I say, in 99% cases the storage object (DOMStorage) is Create()'ed for a DOMWindow (global window)
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2237. # [16:53] <Ms2ger> mayhemer, okay, thanks
2238. # [16:53] <mayhemer> Ms2ger: I need to leave for an hour now, I'll check the bug after I return and maybe I'll be able to give you more info
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2243. # [16:56] <bsmedberg> bent|floor6: when I save a blob that I got from an <input type="file"> into indexeddb, does it actually save the data, or just a reference to the file?
2244. # [16:57] <bent|floor6> bsmedberg, it async-copies the file into its own storage dir
2245. # [16:57] * Ms2ger wonders if there's also bent|floor5 and bent|floor7
2246. # [16:57] <bsmedberg> bent|floor6: ok. Is there a way to store just a pointer?
2247. # [16:57] <bent|floor6> bsmedberg, no, not really... we couldn't get it back maybe
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2250. # [16:58] <bsmedberg> ok, I'll just save off the data
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2274. # [17:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cffcceab1b0d - Yiming Yang - Bug 850819 - Send touch/mouse/click events in action chains, r=mdas
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2278. # [17:13] <vlad> bsmedberg: relaunching with 64-bit! (vmmap.exe -64)
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2283. # [17:13] <@bz> If I have a make rule that just expresses an ordering dependency
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2285. # [17:14] <@bz> but has no actual steps to execute
2286. # [17:14] <@bz> what do I need to put in the makefile under the dependency bit?
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2293. # [17:16] <BenWa> ehsan: Alright so my patch got backed out again :(
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2296. # [17:17] <BenWa> ehsan: The problem is the profiler shutdown RAII runs right after NS_LogTerm
2297. # [17:17] <BenWa> but only in the plugin code
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2304. # [17:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d31d983075a - Joe Drew - Bug 860149 - Mark ourselves as doing synchronous decoding when writing directly to decoders in AddSourceData. r=seth
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2319. # [17:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b85353b6cc38 - Jonathan Kew - bug 857089 - add a device-pixel zoom level to image viewer. r=bz
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2321. # [17:27] <Sander> bz or any other active ops here: dveditz says he's getting "address is banned" when trying to join this channel
2322. # [17:28] <Ms2ger> Yes
2323. # [17:28] <Ms2ger> His client was misbehaving earlier
2324. # [17:28] <Ms2ger> ted, ^
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2339. # [17:33] <Matt> so when a tab is loaded in the background by the session saver on browser start, the readyState is 'complete'?
2340. # [17:33] <Matt> kinda weird
2341. # [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c0d7f9cb43d - Jonathan Kew - bug 861270 - prefer to use precise scale factor from GetDefaultScale() rather than approximate factor based on appUnits per devpix. r=roc
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2343. # [17:34] * Matt wonders how you're supposed to know if the document has really been loaded or not (if you're a bootstrapped extension)
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2346. # [17:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c14d7d33f3e7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Remove plugin-specific cx pusher. r=bsmedberg
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2348. # [17:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd382d615402 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Remove custom AutoPusher in ipc XPCShellEnvironment. r=gabor
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2352. # [17:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f0124f27361 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Straightforward cases. r=gabor
2353. # [17:36] <_AxS_> Matt: i expect you should be able to find the status of the downloaded files themselves somehow...?
2354. # [17:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba928cbd5191 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Add assertion back in. r=gabor
2355. # [17:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fbf3dcab515 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Convert workers to SafeAutoJSContext. r=gabor
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2358. # [17:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c080eb83983 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Simplify JSContext handling {Cancel,Suspend,Resume}WorkersForWindow. r=gabor
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2360. # [17:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef58074cedfd - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Remove context stack craziness from nsWindowWatcher. r=gabor
2361. # [17:37] <Matt> _AxS_: you mean whether the HTML page has been downloaded?
2362. # [17:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4be115c79b50 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860438 - Use nsCxPusher in JSD. r=gabor
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2365. # [17:37] <Matt> seems like a bug to me
2366. # [17:37] <_AxS_> Matt: by url, yes. Plugins can determine this, in order to know when they can start reading the downloaded data from the cache file
2367. # [17:37] <Matt> the innerHTML is <head></head><body></body>
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2370. # [17:38] <Matt> so the document is really about:blank (with readyState === 'complete') but the location is already set to the "real" location by the session saver
2371. # [17:38] <_AxS_> ...some sort of 'go' event needs to be triggered?
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2373. # [17:38] <Matt> _AxS_: not if you're a bootstrapped extension
2374. # [17:39] <Matt> the extension can be enabled at any time
2375. # [17:39] <Matt> and you have no way of knowing whether events have been fired by the existing tabs
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2380. # [17:40] <_AxS_> right, but if the document is about:blank rather than the actual url, it sounds like whatever set the url didn't trigger a "go" event (note i have no idea what the real name of that event would be)
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2385. # [17:41] <Matt> _AxS_: that's right, the URL is set by the session saver but there's really no way that I can see to distinguish between a tab that was loaded by the session saver but has an empty document and a tab that has already been loaded
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2387. # [17:41] <Matt> in both cases the location is the real URL and the readyState is complete
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2391. # [17:42] <_AxS_> Matt: ... this isn't affected by the delayed-loading of session tabs is it? iirc there's something pushed around FF20 that doesn't load background tabs until they're foregrounded....
2392. # [17:42] <Matt> _AxS_: exactly, that's the problem
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2395. # [17:43] <Matt> but the readyState is complete even though the document hasn't really loaded
2396. # [17:43] <Matt> lemme check Bugzilla, if this is newish functionality then maybe someone already filed this
2397. # [17:43] <jfkthame> it sure seems like a recipe for brokenness
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2399. # [17:44] <Matt> don't see anything
2400. # [17:44] <Matt> I'll file
2401. # [17:45] <Matt> I'm using FF19 but I think deferred loading of background tabs has been implemented for a while
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2403. # [17:45] <_AxS_> yeah it could be ff19 it was pushed into.. whatever HEAD was in late-october/november 2012
2404. # [17:47] <jfkthame> i wonder if there should be a new readyState value for this? it's not even "loading" at this point, let alone "complete"
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2406. # [17:48] <Matt> "loading" would be a heck of a lot better than "complete"
2407. # [17:48] <Matt> but yeah, "deferred" or something would be cool
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2409. # [17:49] <jfkthame> agreed, loading would be better than complete, but it could still be misleading
2410. # [17:49] <_AxS_> I bet they chose "complete" in order to fake it showing as complete even though it hasn't been loaded
2411. # [17:49] <jfkthame> and potentially lead to unwanted behavior
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2415. # [17:51] <jfkthame> maybe they did, but is that wise? suppose the user then clicks on that tab and it fails to load, or just takes a long time? anything that believed the "complete" state and proceeded on that understanding will get very confused
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2420. # [17:51] <jlebar|6th_floor> Can we return nsAutoCString& 's?
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2432. # [17:56] <Matt> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863303
2433. # [17:56] <Matt> not the right component I suppose
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2442. # [17:58] <jesup> RyanVM|brb: ping
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2447. # [17:58] <RyanVM> jesup: pong
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2451. # [17:59] <jesup> RyanVM: I noticed you backed out bug 834835 - I've seen no activity in that bug
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2454. # [18:00] <RyanVM> jesup: yeah, for good reason
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2457. # [18:00] <RyanVM> jesup: 1) it was accidental
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2461. # [18:00] <jesup> aha
2462. # [18:00] <RyanVM> 2) I want to trigger some osx m1 runs to confirm that it did anything before commenting
2463. # [18:00] <padenot> RyanVM: about that, should we retrigger now?
2464. # [18:00] <padenot> the first one is green
2465. # [18:00] <jesup> ok. Was freaking me out because I couldn't find a source file referenced in a bug
2466. # [18:00] <RyanVM> padenot: i was waiting for the opt builds to finish
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2468. # [18:01] <padenot> it appeared on debug also
2469. # [18:01] <RyanVM> padenot: k, more triggered
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2471. # [18:02] <padenot> cool
2472. # [18:02] <RyanVM> jesup: I'll post a comment one way or another once we get a feel for whether it helped or not
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2520. # [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36ffb85842ac - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 862501 - Make baseline pass more accurate stack-pointer refeference for pushed SPS profiler frames. r=jandem
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2534. # [18:22] <_AxS_> hey all -- prefs question ; if i'm using a pref that's supposed to provide a path (used as an nsIFile), it's still safer to treat that pref as a string and then attempt to build a path from that via NS_NewNativeLocalFile() than to just get the pref via preferences.nsILocalFile and assume it is set properly to begin with, right?
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2544. # [18:25] <vlad> jdm_: I'm confused, what SendData() is TCPSocketChild calling?
2545. # [18:25] <jdm_> vlad: that's IPDL
2546. # [18:25] <jdm_> RecvData in TCPSocketParent
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2548. # [18:26] <vlad> ah, and it has no way to send a raw pointer + length for an array?
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2550. # [18:27] <jdm_> yeah, it's cross-process :)
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2553. # [18:27] <vlad> well, SendData just writes it in the message, no?
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2556. # [18:28] <vlad> I mean nsTArray isn't refcounted :)
2557. # [18:28] <vlad> would be nice to avoid the copy there
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2559. # [18:29] <jdm_> vlad: can't; we tried hard originally when I wrote the IPC stuff.
2560. # [18:29] <jdm_> at least, it was deemed unnecessary given the amount of extra work required.
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2562. # [18:29] <vlad> SendData<uint8_t[]>(data, bytes) ?
2563. # [18:30] <jdm_> I'm fairly confident I explored the possibilities, but don't remember the specifics.
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2565. # [18:30] <jdm_> can we put aside potential optimizations for now?
2566. # [18:30] <jdm_> scope creep, etc.
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2568. # [18:30] <vlad> yeah, of course; just notced it as one of the only remaining perf issues
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2570. # [18:31] <vlad> wasn't sure if there was a way to get rid of it :)
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2579. # [18:33] <vlad> jdm_: both patches look good; consumers will need to change their usage though
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2581. # [18:33] <jdm_> vlad: yep. luckily that's only the email program, and andrew says that's no problem.
2582. # [18:33] <vlad> ok, cool
2583. # [18:34] <jdm_> vlad: are you cool with the magic behaviour of a length of 0 being turned into the length of the buffer?
2584. # [18:34] <jdm_> otherwise we need to always provide bogus arguments when sending strings
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2587. # [18:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b25aba83eeb - Luke Wagner - Bug 863045 - OdinMonkey: fix duplicate-evaluation in double-to-int coercion (r=sstangl)
2588. # [18:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d061ec6e8451 - Luke Wagner - Bug 858749 - OdinMonkey: fix join after break when block is empty (r=sstangl)
2589. # [18:36] <vlad> jdm_: yeah, I think so.. it might be an API papercut, I guess since it requires a test before sending
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2592. # [18:36] <vlad> jdm_: but short of sendString() and sendArrayBuffer() methods I don't know another easy way of fixing it
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2595. # [18:37] <RyanVM> padenot: looking pretty green :)
2596. # [18:37] <firebot> Check-in:
2597. # [18:37] <edmorley> does ctrl+c / ctrl+v work for anyone else in google docs in nightly?
2598. # [18:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43987922a6b3 - Andre Reinald - Bug 802776 - Update deprecated calls in NSOpenPanel and NSSavePanel and transform default directory paths strings to URIs so they work as expected. r=josh
2599. # [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9dd64ef21eff - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 857765 - Add try/catch to content-script window.onerror call. r=abr
2600. # [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a520eb3b34ae - Jim Chen - Bug 859452 - Send characters as keys when using HTC Touch Input. r=cpeterson
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2602. # [18:39] <padenot> RyanVM: yeah, I was just looking at that
2603. # [18:40] <padenot> RyanVM: poor roc, I've skimmed through the patch and I saw nothing strange
2604. # [18:40] <RyanVM> such is life
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2606. # [18:40] <RyanVM> I still think that we might as well rm the test if he proposes disabling on OSX
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2608. # [18:40] <padenot> or he could fix his patch
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2610. # [18:41] <padenot> or find the cause
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2612. # [18:41] <padenot> anyways, we should write in the bug
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2618. # [18:41] <mjrosenb> !seen dougc
2619. # [18:41] <firebot> dougc was last seen 3 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying 'bhearsum: there was a broken updater recently. Might need to download and install.' in #mobile.
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2621. # [18:42] <gps> gaston: I haven't seen that failure before
2622. # [18:42] <RyanVM> padenot: already done
2623. # [18:43] <RyanVM> padenot: my heart just sinks when the first response I get it "we already disabled that test on windows"
2624. # [18:43] <padenot> yeah
2625. # [18:43] <RyanVM> kinda missing the point there :P
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2628. # [18:43] <padenot> I can understand that people prefer to write features than fixing tests, though
2629. # [18:44] <padenot> even if I try to fix my failing tests myself
2630. # [18:44] <gaston> gps: i cant run configure on c-c since some days,it always fail with that message
2631. # [18:44] <RyanVM> padenot: speaking of which, any progress on the various assertion bugs? :P
2632. # [18:45] <padenot> if cpearce has no idea, I'm not sure I can do something
2633. # [18:45] <gaston> gps: 2 days ago it was fine
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2636. # [18:46] <gps> gaston: that error indicates that we are attempting variable substitution on a non-existing file
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2638. # [18:46] <gps> if you run config.status -v by hand, it should print out which file is failing
2639. # [18:46] <gaston> gps: ie cc with m-c rev 1d9c510b374 was ok, cc with m-c rev 50ab959f4b failed
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2642. # [18:46] <gaston> (http://buildbot.rhaalovely.net/builders/comm-central-amd64)
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2644. # [18:46] <gps> gaston: please file a bug so we can at least get a better error message in place
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2646. # [18:47] <gps> file that under m-c. but your bug is likely a bad config in c-c (unless you can repro on m-c)
2647. # [18:47] <gaston> ah config.status -v; good first hint
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2649. # [18:47] <gaston> mc is perfectly fine
2650. # [18:47] <RyanVM> padenot: :(
2651. # [18:48] <padenot> Maybe we can bump the expected assertion stuff a bit if it makes your life easier
2652. # [18:49] <gps> well, please file a m-c build config to print out a helpful error message
2653. # [18:49] <gaston> gps: http://pastie.org/7646336 - will file a bug
2654. # [18:49] <gaston> what i dont get is that thunderbird-trunk tbpl is fine
2655. # [18:49] <gaston> but mayb that's because configure wasnt run there yet
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2658. # [18:50] <RattyAway> gaston: jcranmer has been busy with c-c configure lately
2659. # [18:50] <RyanVM> philor: edmorley: lulz http://www.ryanvm.net/files/win.png
2660. # [18:50] <RyanVM> also, I win :D
2661. # [18:50] <gaston> RattyAway: as long as it's for some win /°
2662. # [18:50] <gaston> :)
2663. # [18:50] <RattyAway> gaston: might be fallout from Bug 856540
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2665. # [18:51] <jcranmer> gaston: no need to port m-c configure changes
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2669. # [18:52] <gaston> RattyAway: that... doesnt seem the correct bug :)
2670. # [18:52] <gaston> jcranmer: ok, fine
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2674. # [18:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf3a2de4af83 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 858332: Make flex items pseudo-stacking contexts, per recent spec change. r=mats
2675. # [18:53] <jcranmer> gaston: it's basically the first major step to moving all of c-c to the m-c build system
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2677. # [18:53] <gaston> jcranmer: so it's for lots of win \o/
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2679. # [18:53] <@ehsan> BenWa: oh why?
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2681. # [18:54] <jcranmer> gaston: yepyep
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2686. # [18:55] <gaston> jcranmer: so i'll let my buildslave fail configure for the coming days without worrying :)
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2688. # [18:55] <jcranmer> [of course I don't know how long the next steps will take]
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2692. # [18:56] <gaston> out of curiosity, why isnt thunderbird-trunk burning on tbpl then ?
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2697. # [18:56] <jcranmer> there are several possibilities
2698. # [18:56] <jcranmer> 1. m-c broke us but we don't know it yet
2699. # [18:57] <jcranmer> 2. I broke your config but didn't realize it
2700. # [18:57] <jcranmer> 3. your config is unsupported and you didn't realize it
2701. # [18:57] <@ehsan> ted: y u no vidyo?
2702. # [18:57] <BenWa> ehsan: sorry I lost the context?
2703. # [18:57] <@ehsan> BenWa: you said the patches were backed out
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2705. # [18:57] <gaston> jcranmer: hey! my config is supported by myself! :)
2706. # [18:58] <BenWa> ehsan: Because with my scoped stuff NS_LogTerm runs before profiler_shutdown in a few cases
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2708. # [18:58] <BenWa> the stuff that does the bloat log
2709. # [18:58] <@ehsan> hrm
2710. # [18:58] <@ehsan> oh
2711. # [18:58] <@ehsan> crap
2712. # [18:58] <BenWa> I've just moved stuff arround
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2714. # [18:58] <@ehsan> upside: that should be easy to fx
2715. # [18:58] <@ehsan> fix, even
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2718. # [18:58] <BenWa> It will need a better fix then what I did but I want to land this so I don't want to do a large refactoring
2719. # [18:58] <@ehsan> right
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2727. # [19:00] <BenWa> RyanVM: I'm about to repush my patches. I addressed the failure but if we see another freak leak while we crash I'd like to over look it a bit. Leaking when we crash is not something we should care about. I'm happy to fix it but it's not worth holding up useful profiling results over.
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2729. # [19:01] <RyanVM> BenWa: k
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2733. # [19:02] <@bz> if I want a make rule that does nothing
2734. # [19:02] <BenWa> of course anything that happens outside a crash is fair game :)
2735. # [19:02] <@bz> how do I do that?
2736. # [19:02] <@ted> ehsan: ?
2737. # [19:02] <@ted> i am vidyo, i just have a horrible connection
2738. # [19:02] <@bz> (as in, it just imposes an ordering dependency, but has no commands to run)
2739. # [19:02] <@ehsan> ted: well you weren't back when I pinged you :)
2740. # [19:02] <BenWa> in make?
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2742. # [19:02] <@bz> yes
2743. # [19:02] <@bz> I want something like:
2744. # [19:03] <@bz> Foo: Bar
2745. # [19:03] <BenWa> why not echo to /dev/null?
2746. # [19:03] <@bz> ah, I can try that
2747. # [19:03] <BenWa> a bit of a hack I know
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2753. # [19:04] <BenWa> probably want that to be a PHONY target
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2761. # [19:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb02e3858e1f - James Willcox - Bug 734691 - Add multi-thread support to profiler r=benwa
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2763. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2dd4a898a353 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 863325 - Send correct result with Reader:Added message (r=bnicholson)
2764. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0e86fd53a37 - Benoit Girard - Bug 862500 - Properly shutdown profiler in xpcshell, shutdown and error cases. r=snorp
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2766. # [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2e44e02f874 - Benoit Girard - Bug 734691 - Port multi-thread support to win/mac. r=snorp,smaug
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2768. # [19:07] <BenWa> snorp: Here we go again :)
2769. # [19:07] <snorp> BenWa: fingers crossed
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2772. # [19:08] <BenWa> snorp: This time we called profiler_shutdown right after we ran the trace count stats
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2776. # [19:09] * @bz tries to join ted's meeting, fails
2777. # [19:09] <snorp> BenWa: le sigh.
2778. # [19:09] <snorp> BenWa: I guess RAII isn't magic :)
2779. # [19:09] <@bz> ted, gps: ping
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2781. # [19:09] <BenWa> snorp: CS 101 lied to me!
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2786. # [19:10] <snorp> BenWa: did you go to a good school or something?
2787. # [19:10] <@bz> "All lines in use, please try later"
2788. # [19:10] <@bz> wtf?
2789. # [19:10] <snorp> I didn't learn RAII until I graduated
2790. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> bz, note that the infra load meeting is happening atm
2791. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> Ah
2792. # [19:10] <@bz> yes
2793. # [19:10] <@bz> that's the one I want to be in!
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2796. # [19:10] <Ms2ger> I tried and failed as well
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2798. # [19:10] <BenWa> snorp: /me doesn't want to start the good school / bad school discussion here :P
2799. # [19:10] <@bz> Actually, I can't join any vidyo rooms
2800. # [19:10] <snorp> haha
2801. # [19:10] <@bz> what the?
2802. # [19:11] <mccr8> banned from vidyo!
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2804. # [19:11] <@bz> "all lines in use, please try later"
2805. # [19:11] <@bz> It's like a 40s telephone system
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2808. # [19:12] <BenWa> Others are having it too
2809. # [19:12] <abr> bz: Yeah, I was about to chide you for using a landline phone for a meeting in this day and age until I realized that this is new technology emulating old...
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2811. # [19:12] <@bz> abr: heh
2812. # [19:12] <Gijs> NeilAway: ping
2813. # [19:12] <@bz> abr: well, if I don't need video a landline phone is what I use
2814. # [19:12] <@bz> abr: works _way_ better than a cell phone. ;)
2815. # [19:12] <mccr8> still not as bad as having to type letters on a numeric keypad on an Ipad screen for the Vidyo interface...
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2817. # [19:13] <@bz> yeah, it's all broken
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2820. # [19:14] <abr> Bah. Landline phones sound horrible, and cell phones are worse. Wideband codecs like Skype are the only way to comfortably have long conversations...
2821. # [19:15] <abr> Although, if anyone else has an iPhone 5 on T-Mobile's network in the US, I'd love to call them to see how well this wideband codec Apple has been touting actually works.
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2824. # [19:16] <_AxS_> abr: what codec's this? for FaceTime? or...
2825. # [19:16] <@bz> abr: my landline phone sounds pretty good, fwiw
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2828. # [19:17] <_AxS_> bz: depends on what country you're calling. can degrade really quickly if it leaves your telecom's network.
2829. # [19:17] <abr> No, over the air. Normal cell phone calls. Something Apple was excited about when they first launched the iPhone 5 was that it would, on certain carriers (all European until last week), use a wideband codec rather than AMR.
2830. # [19:18] <@bz> _AxS_: well, within the US.
2831. # [19:18] <abr> bz: Your landline phone doesn't sound any better than that which can be conveyed with an 8 kHz sampling rate, compressed into 8 bits, with a notch filter a 2600 Hz. Which is pretty miserable.
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2834. # [19:18] <@bz> abr: So first of all, my "landline" phone is voip
2835. # [19:18] <@bz> abr: That said, presumably the phone hardware is what's doing that conversion
2836. # [19:19] <_AxS_> bz: voip doesn't count. :)
2837. # [19:19] <@bz> _AxS_: the voip is an implementation detail
2838. # [19:19] <@bz> _AxS_: I have a phone I plug into a phone jack
2839. # [19:19] <abr> Unless you're going voip-to-voip with no PSTN in the way, the digital trunks are G.711, which has the properties I describe above.
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2841. # [19:20] <_AxS_> bz: ahok, so it's transparent voip.. you've got a box within your house that does the conversion?
2842. # [19:20] <@bz> abr: second, the codec quality is in my experience is secondary to the following:
2843. # [19:20] <@bz> _AxS_: yes
2844. # [19:20] <@bz> abr: 1) Quality of microphone
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2846. # [19:20] <abr> You just don't realize how had it sounds until you start using higher-quality digital encoding.
2847. # [19:20] <@bz> abe: 2) Quality of packet delivery.
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2849. # [19:20] <@bz> abr: So...
2850. # [19:21] <@bz> abr: I've used skype. ;)
2851. # [19:21] <@bz> abr: Sometimes it sounds fine.
2852. # [19:21] <@bz> abr: Sometimes it sounds like wa-wa-wa
2853. # [19:21] <@bz> abr: depending on what the network is doing between here and there
2854. # [19:21] <@bz> abr: That's never an issue for the landline, except when talking to cellphones
2855. # [19:21] <@ted> bz: weird
2856. # [19:21] <@ted> bz: sorry :-(
2857. # [19:21] <@bz> ted: It's life
2858. # [19:21] <abr> So, yeah, there's no accounting for a bad network in the middle. That's a lot of the problem you get with cell phones.
2859. # [19:22] <@bz> ted: I have other things to do, so it's not like I'm left shiftless and idle.
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2861. # [19:22] <@bz> abr: sure
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2863. # [19:22] <@bz> abr: the shitty microphones and typically high ambient noise levels (these things are not unrelated) is the other.
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2865. # [19:22] <@bz> abr: When I'm talking to someone who's using a cell, half the time I can't understand them at all
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2867. # [19:22] <@bz> abr: no matter what I'm using on my end
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2870. # [19:23] <abr> That matches my experience. Which is one of the big reasons I'm keen to see how well the iPhone wideband codec works.
2871. # [19:23] <@bz> abr: I guess improving the codec might help with crappy networks some
2872. # [19:24] <@bz> abr: not sure it would help with the crappy input....
2873. # [19:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d214b2f5a61f - Olli Pettay - Bug 863094 - Infinity/-Infinity/NaN defaults for unrestricted types, r=bz
2874. # [19:24] <abr> bz: Right. The quality is only as good as the weakest link. The problem is that G.711 sets that ceiling pretty low.
2875. # [19:25] <abr> GSM 6.10, EVRC, and AMR are all even worse.
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2892. # [19:28] <abr> bz: Of course, next time you need to talk to someone one-on-one running Nightly or Aurora (or Beta 22 once we get there), you can just use https://apprtc.appspot.com/ and see how Opus works for you. :)
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2901. # [19:31] <@bz> abr: can try that, yes. ;)
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2913. # [19:34] <@ted> bz: heh, [UNPLANNED VIDYO EVENT]
2914. # [19:35] <@bz> ted: lol
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2920. # [19:35] <@ted> (in email)
2921. # [19:35] <@ted> so it's not just you
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2992. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fce173d8800d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 36ffb85842ac (bug 862501) for mochitest crashes.
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2997. # [20:03] <YoungWolf> sd
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3009. # [20:08] <kunal> how to
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3012. # [20:09] <j4nu5> bsmedberg: hi! i am new to mozilla ... i am interested in mentored bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329937 ... can you plz help me with some background info on this bug ... thnx!
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3016. # [20:10] <bsmedberg> j4nu5: what kind of background are you looking for? Do you understand the refcounting problem?
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3020. # [20:12] <j4nu5> bsmedberg: ive read the intro xpcom docs ... i was wondering what is kungFuDeathGrip?
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3022. # [20:12] <bsmedberg> j4nu5: take a look at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=kungfudeathgrip
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3024. # [20:12] <@smaug> it is just a stack variable keeping some object alive
3025. # [20:13] <@smaug> (in general )
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3029. # [20:13] <bsmedberg> yeah, it's an extra refcount on an object which might otherwise go away
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3031. # [20:13] <bsmedberg> in general when you're holding on to *other* objects, I don't mind them too much
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3035. # [20:14] <bsmedberg> but if you need kungfudeathgrip(this) it means that some caller is not smart
3036. # [20:15] <bsmedberg> j4nu5: this is not going to be an easy bug. You need to look at each caller, figure out why it was added, and remove it pretty carefully.
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3038. # [20:15] <@khuey> who has windows and is willing to be my guinea pig?
3039. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> Neither
3040. # [20:15] <bsmedberg> khuey: for what?
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3042. # [20:16] <@khuey> bsmedberg: loading a webpage
3043. # [20:16] <bsmedberg> I can do that! ;-)
3044. # [20:16] <@khuey> cool!
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3047. # [20:16] <@khuey> fire up a separate firefox instance and go to http://people.mozilla.org/~khuey/#test=bigimage
3048. # [20:16] <j4nu5> bsmedberg: hmm .. since this is my first bugfix for mozilla, i guess ill stick to something easier .. thnx!
3049. # [20:16] <@khuey> click start and look at what happens to our memory usage
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3051. # [20:17] <bsmedberg> khuey: do you care about the graphics config?
3052. # [20:17] <@khuey> bsmedberg: only after the fact
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3054. # [20:18] <bsmedberg> khuey: memory usage in about:memory or externally?
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3059. # [20:18] <@khuey> bsmedberg: externally
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3061. # [20:19] <bsmedberg> khuey: I crashed
3062. # [20:19] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ok so you see it too
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3064. # [20:19] <bsmedberg> khuey: what does this test do?
3065. # [20:19] <@khuey> bsmedberg: or did you crash from something besides oom?
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3067. # [20:20] <bsmedberg> I don't know yet, checking the report
3068. # [20:20] <@khuey> bsmedberg: well it seems to cause gfx to go nuts and OOM the browser
3069. # [20:20] <@khuey> bsmedberg: in magical mysterious memory
3070. # [20:20] <@khuey> bsmedberg: sound familiar?
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3072. # [20:20] <cpeterson> I clicked the start button, but not much happened. Firefox was already using ~1.5 GB. :|
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3075. # [20:21] <@khuey> cpeterson: are you on windows?
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3079. # [20:21] <cpeterson> khuey: OSX
3080. # [20:21] <bsmedberg> khuey: could be familiar, need to check the actual test
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3082. # [20:21] <@khuey> cpeterson: yeah it looks like its windoze only
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3084. # [20:21] <@khuey> bsmedberg: basically it <canvas>.drawImages a bunch
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3086. # [20:21] <@khuey> bsmedberg: so thing #1 that's interesting is that if I replace drawImage with <image> elements that are in the doc, it goes away
3087. # [20:22] <bsmedberg> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-8e5b3fef-e48f-46a3-a83d-c430d2130418
3088. # [20:22] <@khuey> bsmedberg: thing #2 that's interesting is that if I turn off hw acceleration it goes away
3089. # [20:22] <jfkthame> sounds like you should complain to bas, maybe the d2d backend is leaking big chunks of memory
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3091. # [20:22] <@khuey> jfkthame: oh I'm sure it's Bas's fault ;-)
3092. # [20:23] <bsmedberg> khuey: thanks, I'll profile this briefly
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3094. # [20:23] <@khuey> bsmedberg: good luck, I wasn't able to learn anything useful :-(
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3097. # [20:23] <bsmedberg> yeah well, I've learned a lot about memory tooling recently
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3099. # [20:24] <@khuey> :-D
3100. # [20:24] <@khuey> bsmedberg: out of curiosity, what hardware did you test on?
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3104. # [20:24] <bsmedberg> khuey: an 8-core Precision with 32G of RAM and a meh nvidia carad
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3108. # [20:25] <@khuey> bsmedberg: ok, I tested on integrated intel crap
3109. # [20:25] <@khuey> so it's good to see it's not hw specific
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3111. # [20:26] <bsmedberg> apparently I have 4G of graphics memory
3112. # [20:26] <bsmedberg> but I don't quite understand what the "shared" and "dedicated" numbers mean
3113. # [20:27] <@khuey> I doubt I'm anywhere close to that ;-)
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3116. # [20:27] <bsmedberg> it may just mean I have 512MB of graphics memory and it can use RAM up to a 32-bit address space
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3134. # [20:37] <Gijs> Why is nsIObserver not a "function" in the idl? :(
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3137. # [20:38] <NeilAway> Gijs: pong
3138. # [20:39] <Gijs> NeilAway: you did a seamonkey patch about this video statistics thingummywhatsit. Does my patching m-c, m-a or m-b interfere with SeaMonkey at all?
3139. # [20:39] * Gijs didn't think so but is asking just to be sure.
3140. # [20:39] <NeilAway> Gijs: no, it just saves me a line of code
3141. # [20:39] <Gijs> OK, good! :)
3142. # [20:39] <lsblakk> khuey and/or ehsan|mtg did either of you implement the RELEASE_BUILD macro that allows features to stay in nightly/aurora?
3143. # [20:40] <NeilAway> Gijs: but thanks for asking!
3144. # [20:40] <Gijs> NeilAway: sure, was just afraid that landing it on beta would screw up SM beta, that'd be a risk that would have to have been added as an issue with landing on beta. Glad it's not! :)
3145. # [20:40] <@khuey> lsblakk: this is the first I've heard of this, so I'm pretty sure I didn't implement it ;-)
3146. # [20:41] * Gijs is blind and nsIObserver *is* a function - yay.
3147. # [20:41] <nobled> ekr: ping?
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3150. # [20:41] <ekr> nobled: hello
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3152. # [20:41] <ekr> I took a quick look at your proposal. Will need to get back to you over the weekend.
3153. # [20:42] <nobled> ekr: ah, okay. great.
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3155. # [20:42] <ekr> With that said, I have no idea what the actual process is... what do you need from me besides technical advice/assistance? Is there some form I am supposed to mess wtih?
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3157. # [20:42] <RyanVM> bholley: I think you might have broken the android xpcshell test
3158. # [20:42] * @smaug gives eyeglasses to Gijs
3159. # [20:42] <bholley> RyanVM: oh dear
3160. # [20:42] <bholley> RyanVM: link?
3161. # [20:42] <nobled> well, i'm new to this too
3162. # [20:42] <Gijs> smaug: ta.
3163. # [20:43] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21968414&tree=Mozilla-Inbound - not that it'll give you much
3164. # [20:43] <RyanVM> bholley: I've got some retriggers going
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3166. # [20:43] <nobled> mayb the idea of discussion is to flesh it out to be sure it's useful to the project?
3167. # [20:44] <nobled> it's just suggested that ideas discussed beforehand tend to be better accepted, apparently
3168. # [20:45] <RyanVM> bholley: Callek: the "CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE" looks relevant
3169. # [20:45] <RyanVM> bholley: Callek: But I have no idea what that means in the context of this test
3170. # [20:45] <bholley> RyanVM: what the heck does that mean?
3171. # [20:45] * Callek wonders why he is getting pinged about that, fwiw
3172. # [20:46] <RyanVM> Callek: Android xpcshell
3173. # [20:46] <Callek> oooooooooo
3174. # [20:46] <Callek> RyanVM: is that in a range where one of glandiums patches landed?
3175. # [20:47] <ekr> nobled: OK, well I'm happy to offer that kind of opinion... but if you need someone to facilitate any like administrative activity, I'm as lost as you
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3177. # [20:47] <RyanVM> Callek: it's a few pushes after https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=7610346a34ee
3178. # [20:47] <RyanVM> which was of course landed DONTBUILD
3179. # [20:47] <Callek> RyanVM: specifically looks like fallout from Bug 859705 to me
3180. # [20:47] <RyanVM> Callek: Could very well be
3181. # [20:48] <RyanVM> glandium: thanks for the DONTBUILD on that push :\
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3183. # [20:48] <Callek> RyanVM: specifically see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=bfc7718d631a&tree=Mozilla-Inbound which was similar earlier in the day (but with larger breakage)
3184. # [20:49] * NeilAway wonders what the easiest way of finding a regression between beta and aurora is
3185. # [20:49] <bholley> RyanVM: am I off the hook?
3186. # [20:49] <RyanVM> Callek: definitely more likely than bholley
3187. # [20:49] <RyanVM> I think so :)
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3189. # [20:49] <bholley> RyanVM: \o/
3190. # [20:49] <bholley> RyanVM: that probably saves me…days
3191. # [20:49] <RyanVM> hah
3192. # [20:49] <Gijs> NeilAway: which of those is broken?
3193. # [20:49] <Callek> bholley: yea, I think the cause is either glandium or glandiums-request-of-stuff-I-added-to-foopies
3194. # [20:49] <NeilAway> Gijs: aurora
3195. # [20:50] <RyanVM> Callek: Gonna back out 7610346a34ee
3196. # [20:50] <Callek> RyanVM: wfm
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3198. # [20:50] <Gijs> NeilAway: check that the very first beta after uplift worked, then use mozregression with m-a?
3199. # [20:50] <Gijs> (or, if the first beta was also broken, on m-b)
3200. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ce61ecf9bec - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 7610346a34ee (bug 859705) for intermittent Android xpcshell failures on a CLOSED TREE.
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3202. # [20:52] <NeilAway> Gijs: hmm, yes, there's probably a common ancestor I should test first
3203. # [20:52] <Callek> RyanVM: I theorize you may need to backout https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b8dcd393805 as well, fwiw
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3205. # [20:52] <Callek> we don't have szip enabled anymore, but we still have the xpcshell runner changes he did
3206. # [20:55] <nobled> ekr: yeah, the formal decisionmaking to "rank" all the student proposals for Google isn't until May, for whoever does that part.
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3208. # [20:55] <RyanVM> Callek: better late than never...
3209. # [20:56] <ekr> nobled: you already submitted this, right?
3210. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f72c639ba397 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 3b8dcd393805 (bug 859705) for intermittent Android xpcshell failures on a CLOSED TREE.
3211. # [20:56] <nobled> ekr: submissions don't open until monday.
3212. # [20:56] <nobled> ekr: deadline is like may 3rd
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3214. # [20:56] <ekr> nobled: ok, so this needs to be approved by ffox, not by Google
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3218. # [20:56] <ekr> ?
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3222. # [20:58] <nobled> ekr: there's an faq that explains it better https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#2._What_is_the_program_timeline
3223. # [20:58] <ekr> OK. Thanks
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3248. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b132a3082175 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 857817 - Make AreLayerMarkedActive aware of preserve-3d transformed frames. r=roc, a=bajaj
3249. # [21:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e3ff97187d14 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 841363 - Ensure padding-rect edges are included in scrollable area used to compute scrollWidth/scrollHeight for overflow:visible elements. r=matspal, a=bajaj
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3278. # [21:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d1847d734c77 - Reuben Morais - Bug 862351 - Don't enqueue messages sent to a different inner window. r=gwagner
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3280. # [21:36] <joe> !seen dbaron
3281. # [21:36] <firebot> dbaron was last seen 25 hours, 56 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying 'I'm guessing the bus got back about 7:30' in #b2g.
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3284. # [21:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8d27fe5d7c0 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
3285. # [21:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1847d734c77 - Reuben Morais - Bug 862351 - Don't enqueue messages sent to a different inner window. r=gwagner
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3287. # [21:39] <@khuey> ericjung: pong
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3291. # [21:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3231056b600d - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 833964 - Don't keep a dangling pointer to a task that is about to get deleted. r=drs
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3304. # [21:47] <@ehsan> lsblakk: no it wasn't me, how come?
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3306. # [21:47] <lsblakk> ehsan: i'm wanting to kick off a thread about having a way to auto-pref-off in beta N
3307. # [21:48] <lsblakk> wondering who should be in that initial conversation
3308. # [21:48] <lsblakk> using a macro, perhaps
3309. # [21:48] <@ehsan> hmm
3310. # [21:48] <@ehsan> lsblakk: why not post it to dev.platform?
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3312. # [21:48] <lsblakk> no reason why not, i will start there then - thanks ehsan
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3314. # [21:49] <@ehsan> lsblakk: happy to help :)
3315. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you had some SelfReference class, right?
3316. # [21:49] <mconnor> lsblakk: do we actually surface the beta version in the build anywhere?
3317. # [21:49] <@ehsan> yep
3318. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> It seems like WebSocket::UpdateMustKeepAlive() has some similar issue
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3320. # [21:49] <@ehsan> mconnor: not afaik
3321. # [21:49] <mconnor> right, so I think you're getting into some... fun
3322. # [21:49] <lsblakk> hm
3323. # [21:49] <lsblakk> ok
3324. # [21:50] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: do you want me to move it somewhere more useful?
3325. # [21:50] <@ehsan> like, mfbt?
3326. # [21:50] <lsblakk> mconnor: so then maybe a mozconfig switch on build post-Beta N?
3327. # [21:50] <@smaug> WebSocket is pretty special...
3328. # [21:50] <mconnor> lsblakk: if you want to have a set of prefs controlled by one switch, you could just have them preprocessed with a single flag
3329. # [21:50] <mconnor> lsblakk: yeah, exactly
3330. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> ehsan, unless smaug says I'm wrong, I'd say yes :)
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3332. # [21:51] <mconnor> lsblakk: #ifdef EARLY_BETA_ONLY_FEATURE :)
3333. # [21:51] <lsblakk> releng could automate switching to different mozconfigs
3334. # [21:51] <lsblakk> right
3335. # [21:51] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: file a bug and assign it to me then!
3336. # [21:51] <lsblakk> thanks mconnor that's really helpful
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3338. # [21:51] <mconnor> and for bonus points, that'll let you do the same thing for bits with build-time switches as well
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3340. # [21:51] <@ehsan> mconnor: lsblakk: fwiw, RELEASE_BUILD is pretty dump, it just looks at the update channel name
3341. # [21:51] <lsblakk> i also wonder who called it "RELEASE" when it's targeting aurora/nightly :)
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3343. # [21:52] <lsblakk> although perhaps they were looking in from the other side...
3344. # [21:52] <@ehsan> lsblakk: yeah poor choice of name, it's RELEASE_OR_BETA_BUILD
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3347. # [21:52] <@ehsan> lsblakk: oh, sorry, if you want to enable something on Aurora and Nightly only, you do #ifndef RELEASE_BUILD
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3349. # [21:52] <@ehsan> so the logic is reverse
3350. # [21:52] <mconnor> STABLE_BUILD vs. TEST_BUILD would be useful for a bunch of things...
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3353. # [21:53] <mconnor> and more obvious :)
3354. # [21:53] <@ehsan> right
3355. # [21:53] <@khuey> ehsan: ping?
3356. # [21:53] <@ehsan> khuey: hello
3357. # [21:54] <@khuey> ehsan: do you know where I can get asan builds from?
3358. # [21:54] <@khuey> for linux?
3359. # [21:54] <@ehsan> no... look at tbpl noignore=1?
3360. # [21:54] <@ehsan> or ask decoder
3361. # [21:54] <@ehsan> khuey: just because my name is ehsan, I don't know about asan :P
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3364. # [21:55] <@khuey> ehsan: haven't you been involved with this stuff?
3365. # [21:55] <@ehsan> back when we didn't do asan builds regularly
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3367. # [21:55] <@khuey> ok
3368. # [21:55] <@khuey> see
3369. # [21:55] <@ehsan> it's in decoder's hands now
3370. # [21:55] <@khuey> I'm not just making stuff up
3371. # [21:55] <@khuey> I'm remembering things ;-)
3372. # [21:55] <@ehsan> not entirely
3373. # [21:55] <@ehsan> hehe
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3376. # [21:56] <@smaug> we do asan builds by default now?
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3379. # [21:56] <@ehsan> smaug: yep
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3381. # [21:56] <@ehsan> not per push though I don't think
3382. # [21:56] <@ehsan> but nightly
3383. # [21:57] <@ehsan> or something along those lines
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3385. # [21:57] * @smaug must have missed the newsgroup/blog post about this
3386. # [21:58] <@ehsan> smaug: what newsgroup/blog post? ;)
3387. # [21:58] <@ehsan> you should just lurk more on bugzilla :)
3388. # [21:58] <@smaug> probably exactly that one :)
3389. # [21:58] <@smaug> ah
3390. # [21:58] <@smaug> I need to follow even more bugzilla components
3391. # [22:00] <@khuey> have a problem
3392. # [22:00] <@khuey> follow a new bugzilla component
3393. # [22:00] <@ehsan> smaug: no, just follow the right people ;)
3394. # [22:00] <@khuey> now you have two problems
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3396. # [22:01] <jhammel> khuey: itym, "now you have 100+ mails about problems per hour"
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3400. # [22:01] <@khuey> jhammel: 100+ problems per hour?
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3402. # [22:02] <@ehsan> man
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3404. # [22:02] <@ehsan> scrolling in twitter music is jerky
3405. # [22:02] <@ehsan> has anybody filed a bug about that?
3406. # [22:02] <jhammel> twitter....music???
3407. # [22:02] <@ehsan> you haven't seen it?
3408. # [22:02] <@ehsan> omg!
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3410. # [22:03] <@ehsan> https://music.twitter.com/
3411. # [22:03] * JosiahOne Has never heard of Twitter Music
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3413. # [22:03] <@ehsan> come on guys, stop doing work and start reading tech news ;)
3414. # [22:03] <jhammel> oh, that stuff
3415. # [22:03] * @ehsan files a bug
3416. # [22:03] <cronco> is it US only?
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3418. # [22:04] <jhammel> is it 140 notes or under? ;)
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3421. # [22:04] <jhammel> well, 140 beats
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3423. # [22:04] <@ehsan> smaug: I don't think that it's launch in Finland :(
3424. # [22:04] <@smaug> ah
3425. # [22:05] <@smaug> or perhaps I should be logged in to twitter
3426. # [22:05] <@ehsan> surprisingly it was launched at Canada at the same time as US
3427. # [22:05] <@ehsan> that's surely a first!
3428. # [22:05] <@ehsan> smaug: no, it works without login too
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3430. # [22:05] <@ehsan> in fact it's just a twitter "app", in that it's not single sign-on'ed with twitter itself
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3452. # [22:15] <@khuey> ehsan: can I ask you another asan question?
3453. # [22:15] <@ehsan> khuey: of course
3454. # [22:16] <@khuey> ehsan: so what happens if asan finds a problem?
3455. # [22:16] <@khuey> does it crash the browser?
3456. # [22:16] <@khuey> or print to the terminal like valgrind?
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3458. # [22:16] <@ehsan> it should print to the terminal
3459. # [22:17] <@ehsan> (and abort in some of the cases)
3460. # [22:17] <@khuey> ok
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3462. # [22:17] <@ehsan> there is a function which you can break on to catch this stuff
3463. # [22:17] <@khuey> it prints a lot to the terminal :-/
3464. # [22:17] <@ehsan> let me see if I can find it...
3465. # [22:17] <@ehsan> gimme a sec
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3468. # [22:17] <@khuey> or maybe this is something else ...
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3470. # [22:17] <@khuey> this looks like libevent spew maybe?
3471. # [22:17] <@ehsan> khuey: http://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/wiki/AddressSanitizer
3472. # [22:18] <@ehsan> see the section on interaction with other tools
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3475. # [22:18] <@khuey> ehsan: oooh
3476. # [22:18] <@khuey> ehsan: ty
3477. # [22:18] <@ehsan> the asan output says AddressSanitizer on the first line always
3478. # [22:18] <@ehsan> (iirc)
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3480. # [22:18] <@ehsan> so if you don't see those, then it's not coming from asan
3481. # [22:18] <@ehsan> but you can break on the report functions to be sure
3482. # [22:19] <@ehsan> khuey: also, do you know about asan_symbolize.py?
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3485. # [22:19] <@khuey> ehsan: I know nothing about anything :-)
3486. # [22:19] <@ehsan> without that you don't get symbol names on the spew
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3488. # [22:19] <@ehsan> hehe
3489. # [22:19] <@ehsan> http://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/wiki/CallStack
3490. # [22:20] <@ehsan> khuey: I'd recommend going through the asan tutorial once
3491. # [22:20] <@ehsan> it's short and to the point
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3493. # [22:20] <@ehsan> and very useful
3494. # [22:20] <@khuey> ok
3495. # [22:20] <@ehsan> khuey: ping me if you have more questions
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3517. # [22:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fea489bb4f30 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 860913 part 3: Mark content/html/content/src/ as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=mounir
3518. # [22:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98e99b17ce08 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 860913 part 1: Use ALLOW_THIS_IN_INITIALIZER_LIST macro to silence existing instances of MSVC warning C4355 in content/html/content/src/. r=mounir
3519. # [22:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2e9352eddeb - Daniel Holbert - Bug 860913 part 2: Replace arg-less MOZ_NOT_REACHED with MOZ_ASSERT in HTMLInputElement.cpp, to fix MSVC build warning and match intended semantics. r=mounir
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3525. # [22:34] <Yoric> yzen: ping
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3529. # [22:34] <yzen> Yoric: hi
3530. # [22:35] <Yoric> hi
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3532. # [22:35] <Yoric> There was a leak in your test_system_shutdown.
3533. # [22:35] <Yoric> I have just fixed it.
3534. # [22:36] <Yoric> I don't know if the leak was already visible when you ran the test (it may have been made visible by my patch on bug 858723).
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3536. # [22:36] <Yoric> But I believe it's worth mentioning so that you pay attention in the future :)
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3540. # [22:37] <Yoric> yzen: If you run a mochitest locally, it will attempt to detect leaks. If it does detect a leak, you will see a report at the end.
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3544. # [22:38] <yzen> Yoric: so the fix is in the patch for 858723?
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3546. # [22:38] <Yoric> Sadly, in many cases, the report is too complex to be usable. But it's still useful to know that there are leaks.
3547. # [22:38] <Yoric> Yes, it is.
3548. # [22:38] <yzen> Yoric: thanks for letting me know
3549. # [22:38] <Yoric> Well, in the patch I'm about to upload.
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3551. # [22:38] <Yoric> Generally, in a mochitest, you should unregister everything you have registered.
3552. # [22:39] <Yoric> xpcshell is more lenient.
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3561. # [22:45] <jimb> There's no way to get the reference count from an object, knowing only that it's an nsISupports, is there?
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3563. # [22:46] <yzen> Yoric: ya i m not sure I saw it, I saw one for the sessionstore work im doing , so i fixed that, might've missed it that time though
3564. # [22:46] <jimb> (This is for building generic tooling, not for actual XPCOM coding.)
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3566. # [22:46] <jesup> Awww, no dbaron
3567. # [22:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d12788533ab7 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 860145 - Allow Ion to compile functions which require heavyweight arguments-object construction. r=jandem r=nbp
3568. # [22:46] <decoder> khuey: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?noignore=1&jobname=asan
3569. # [22:46] <yzen> Yoric: so my listener does not get unregistered ?
3570. # [22:46] <@khuey> decoder: yeah I found it
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3572. # [22:46] <Yoric> yzen: It didn't.
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3574. # [22:46] <@khuey> jimb: not really, no
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3576. # [22:46] <jimb> khuey: That's too bad. :(
3577. # [22:47] <jimb> adding another method to nsISupports is off the table, I guess.
3578. # [22:47] <@khuey> jimb: in practice most objects will tell you if you know how to ask
3579. # [22:47] <decoder> khuey: ok =) dont mind the orange, thats asm.js being incompatible with asan. im still investigating. for some reason the order of signal handlers isnt right when asm.js is supposed to handle an internal sigsegv
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3582. # [22:47] <@khuey> decoder: I'm not even going to ask why asm.js has internal sigsegvs
3583. # [22:47] <decoder> (they expect sigsegv internally and have their own handler, but the asan handler is called first for some reason, thats not right)
3584. # [22:47] <decoder> khuey: ask luke^^
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3586. # [22:47] <jcranmer|away> jimb: look at the return value of AddRef?
3587. # [22:47] <jimb> khuey: I thought of incrementing, and then decrementing the reference count, and using the return value from Release, but that would get CC excited.
3588. # [22:48] <jimb> jcranmer|away: CC makes special note of objects whose reference count has ever been reduced, but not to zero.
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3590. # [22:48] <@khuey> jimb: you should just release it and then addref it, that won't get the CC excited :-P
3591. # [22:48] <jimb> khuey: That's a *great* idea!
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3593. # [22:48] <decoder> khuey: i think it's the way they handle out of bounds accesses. they have guard pages and all that stuff
3594. # [22:48] <jimb> jcranmer|away: If a tool were doing that, it would make the CC basically scan the entire XPCOM heap.
3595. # [22:48] <@khuey> jimb: I have lots of great ideas
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3598. # [22:49] <jimb> khuey: Let's parse the DWARF and look for members named mRefCnt!
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3601. # [22:49] <jimb> (Shipping with debug info is a great idea too.)
3602. # [22:49] <yzen> Yoric: but the things for 845190 and 862570 still need to go in, i assume. is your patch going to be for a new bug or one of the above ?
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3605. # [22:50] <Yoric> I don't think that my patch interacts with these patches.
3606. # [22:51] <jesup> jimb: call QueryInterface for every possible interface and take the smallest address? ;-)
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3609. # [22:51] <jimb> jesup: Now you're thinking!!! :D
3610. # [22:51] <jesup> It would almost work....
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3613. # [22:52] <yzen> Yoric: ok
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3615. # [22:52] <@khuey> jesup: you can just dynamic_cast<void*>
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3617. # [22:53] <jesup> khuey: huh, that works?
3618. # [22:53] <jimb> khuey: Ooh, and then skip a void * to get past the vtable ptr!
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3621. # [22:53] <jimb> khuey: We are SO SMART
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3623. # [22:54] <@khuey> jimb: who said there was only one vtable
3624. # [22:54] <@khuey> jesup: yep, it's magic
3625. # [22:54] <jwir3|away> is console logging enabled from javascript in reftests?
3626. # [22:54] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
3627. # [22:54] <jimb> There's only one there, at the beginning of the object, right?
3628. # [22:54] <jaws> does anybody know the significance of the 'cck' in the channel names, such as "release-cck-yahoo"
3629. # [22:55] <jwir3|away> (i.e. can I somehow get a reftest to print to the log?)
3630. # [22:55] <jimb> I know there are others elsewhere.
3631. # [22:55] <@khuey> jimb: if there's multiple inheritance there can be more than one
3632. # [22:55] <jimb> But unless you've got empty base classes... oh. That's what nsISupports is.
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3634. # [22:55] <jimb> empty base classes with virtual member functions
3635. # [22:55] <@khuey> jimb: they might even be right next to each other, if the first thing you inherit from has no member variables
3636. # [22:55] <@khuey> jimb: exactly
3637. # [22:55] <@khuey> jimb: for a practical example, nsWrapperCache
3638. # [22:55] <jimb> khuey: Right, like... nsISupports.
3639. # [22:56] <@khuey> well, actually, that doesn't apply to nsWrapperCache anymore
3640. # [22:56] <jimb> I keep thinking that the reference count is somehow tied to nsISupports, but that's totally untrue.
3641. # [22:56] <jcranmer|away> some interfaces don't have ref counts
3642. # [22:56] <jcranmer|away> and their AddRef/Release numbers lie
3643. # [22:57] <jimb> jcranmer|away: Interesting, like what?
3644. # [22:57] <jesup> who wants to be the patsy for an rs= for a jprof patch? (the only reviewers for jprof are dbaron and myself... and he doesn't have time to review them (he just rs='s them), and he's not around) Or I can just rs= it myself, as it's NPOTB.
3645. # [22:57] <jesup> jimb: thread manager for one
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3647. # [22:57] <jimb> jcranmer|away: (You're awful interesting for someone who isn't here!)
3648. # [22:57] <Gijs> jaws: something customization kit?
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3652. # [22:57] <jaws> Gijs: idk, but possibly?
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3654. # [22:58] <Gijs> jaws: no, certainly
3655. # [22:58] <Gijs> jaws: and google says the first c is "client"
3656. # [22:58] <Gijs> so, client customization kit
3657. # [22:58] <jimb> NS_IMETHODIMP_(nsrefcnt) nsThreadManager::AddRef() { return 2; }
3658. # [22:58] <jimb> NS_IMETHODIMP_(nsrefcnt) nsThreadManager::Release() { return 1; }
3659. # [22:58] <jimb> lovely
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3661. # [22:58] <Gijs> there was (is?) an add-on / program that lets people customize firefox, and that had that name
3662. # [22:58] <KWierso> jaws: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CCK
3663. # [22:58] <Gijs> jaws: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/cck/
3664. # [22:58] <@khuey> jimb: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/indexedDB/IDBTransaction.cpp#70
3665. # [22:59] <Gijs> :)
3666. # [22:59] <NeilAway> dholbert: where did ALLOW_THIS_IN_INITIALIZER_LIST come from?
3667. # [22:59] <jimb> khuey: *LOL*
3668. # [22:59] <dholbert> NeilAway, it's in a header somewhere, from chromium sources IIRC
3669. # [22:59] <@khuey> jimb: one of my better creations
3670. # [22:59] <jimb> Captures it perfectly.
3671. # [22:59] <dholbert> NeilAway, it's just a convenience macro that pushes & pops a pragma to turn the warning off
3672. # [23:00] <yzen> Yoric: a quick question, is there a setting to run the test with leakcheck?
3673. # [23:00] <NeilAway> dholbert: ah
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3676. # [23:01] <RyanVM> djvj: inbound bustage
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3680. # [23:02] <djvj> RyanVM: on it
3681. # [23:02] <djvj> RyanVM: gimme 2 minutes.
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3687. # [23:05] <djvj> RyanVM: can I just check in a bustage-fix patch without review? It's just adding ifdefs around stuff
3688. # [23:05] <RyanVM> go for it
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3690. # [23:05] <yzen> Yoric: the reason im asking is this at the end of the tests: refcount logging is off, so leaks can't be detected! sorry for a naive question :)
3691. # [23:05] <RyanVM> CLOSED TREE in the commit message
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3704. # [23:09] <djvj> RyanVM: just doing a final compile to make sure it's not breaking anywhere else
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3708. # [23:11] <djvj> RyanVM: pushed
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3710. # [23:11] <RyanVM> thanks :)
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3712. # [23:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2387d9f146c - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 860145 - Fix bustage on no-ion compiles. r=tbpl-bustage. CLOSED TREE
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3717. # [23:13] <sewardj> ehsan: ping
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3719. # [23:14] <@ehsan> sewardj: hi
3720. # [23:14] <Yoric> yzen: I'm not sure, but here's my .mozconfig http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2318074
3721. # [23:14] <sewardj> ehsan: hi. am just trying to make sense of 863264.
3722. # [23:14] * philor|away is now known as philor
3723. # [23:15] <@ehsan> ok
3724. # [23:15] <sewardj> ehsan: re comment 7 .. in your view, does the menu entry item need to be removed before this can land?
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3726. # [23:16] <@ehsan> sewardj: not necessarily, I just want you to check with somebody on the mobile team to get their sign-off on this
3727. # [23:16] <@ehsan> I personally don't care much either way
3728. # [23:16] <sewardj> ehsan: can you suggest a person?
3729. # [23:16] <@ehsan> but I know that people were upset the last time
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3731. # [23:16] <@ehsan> blassey?
3732. # [23:16] <sewardj> ehsan: ok
3733. # [23:16] <@ehsan> sewardj: or perhaps just ask on #mobile?
3734. # [23:17] <@ehsan> sewardj: (I didn't mean to impede landing this patch :)
3735. # [23:17] <sewardj> ehsan: I'll ask blassey on mobile
3736. # [23:17] <@ehsan> great
3737. # [23:17] <sewardj> ehsan: no problem
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3749. # [23:24] <Bas> bsmedberg khuey: Did you guys figure things out?
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3779. # [23:39] <grobinson> anybody else having trouble pushing to try? my hg is hanging at "searching for changes"
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3784. # [23:42] <@roc> anyone in MV have a spare Unagi, or know who would? Tim Terriberry need one now-ish
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3797. # [23:46] <@roc> of course, all the B2G folks are at the work week :-(
3798. # [23:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49b7327cd49f - Tim Abraldes - bug 855581. Wait until we've actually closed the last tab to create a new one. DONTBUILD. r=fryn
3799. # [23:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f762ed17c6a6 - Tim Abraldes - bug 855587. Modify a default profile link to point to the URL that it will redirect to anyway. DONTBUILD. r=jimm
3800. # [23:47] <@smaug> perhaps khuey has one device
3801. # [23:47] <@smaug> (or is he in SF)
3802. # [23:48] * KWierso already donated his unagi to automation a month or so back... :(
3803. # [23:48] <@roc> we can get it from SF if need be
3804. # [23:48] <@roc> khuey: help?
3805. # [23:48] <dholbert> roc, I've got one
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3807. # [23:48] <@roc> dholbert: oh great! can you run it over to Tim's desk? thanks :-)
3808. # [23:48] <dholbert> sure
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3819. # [23:54] <@khuey> roc: hmm?
3820. # [23:54] <yzen> Yoric: thanks, ill try it
3821. # [23:54] <@khuey> roc: looks like you're set
3822. # [23:55] <@roc> yes, thanks
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3828. # [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb99b3a22c5c - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 861596 - Add Baseline stubs to handle GetProp(length) and GetElem(int32) operations on arguments objects. r=bhackett
3829. # [23:59] <seth> ryanvm: ping
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