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1. # Session Start: Fri Apr 19 00:00:00 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
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5. # [00:00] <gkw> bajaj: done: Works great on Nightly 2013-04-17. I retested with the video on https://marketplace.firefox.com/developers/partners as well as some other .webm videos.
6. # [00:00] <gkw> bajaj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845555
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14. # [00:03] <seth> khuey: let me ask you if you'd r+ something before i actually write the code
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16. # [00:04] <seth> khuey: i'd like to check in a change to make the assertion in NS_IMPL_RELEASE (that we're not releasing from a different thread than mOwningThread) fatal for nsStandardURL
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18. # [00:05] <seth> khuey: basically manually inline NS_IMPL_RELEASE for nsStandardURL and make the change
19. # [00:05] <seth> khuey: this will help me catch a random orange bug, and it can be reverted once that's done
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21. # [00:05] <seth> khuey: would you r+ this? or do you have a better approach to suggest?
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24. # [00:07] <seth> i wouldn't be opposed to making that assertion fatal permanently but i have observed others arguing against such things =)
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34. # [00:10] <@khuey> seth: er, it's already fatal?
35. # [00:10] <seth> khuey: ?
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37. # [00:11] <seth> hold on
38. # [00:11] <bajaj> gkw: thank you so much :)
39. # [00:11] <gkw> bajaj: anytime
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41. # [00:12] <@khuey> seth: I am confused because I believe the thing you want already happens
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43. # [00:12] <seth> khuey: i am also confused! i would expect a fatal assertion to produce a stack trace, right? i don't see a stack trace here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21966284&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1#error0
44. # [00:13] * seth looks at the code for NS_IMPL_RELEASE
45. # [00:13] <catlee> mbrubeck: woo, regressions!
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47. # [00:14] <@khuey> seth: yeah that's a fatal assertion, notice the lack of anything happening after that
48. # [00:14] <@khuey> seth: as for the lack of a stack you should talk to Waldo
49. # [00:15] <jesup> !seen dbaron
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52. # [00:16] <@khuey> jesup: he's in madrid
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54. # [00:16] <seth> khuey: hmm, ok, weird behavior - looks like the assertion failure causes the thing to sit there until it gets killed, rather than printing a stack trace and dying immediately
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56. # [00:17] <@khuey> seth: yeah idk why it's not dying immediately
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65. # [00:21] <mbrubeck> catlee: :)
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80. # [00:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/571cbd297f5a - Matt Brubeck - Back out e1549b50183f (bug 860027), suspected of regressing Trace Malloc and/or Ts Paint
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101. # [00:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1d78a56005f1 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 845555 - Fix statistics menu item, r=jaws, a=bajaj
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124. # [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/85fa17f2a405 - Nathan Froyd - Backout da9a2b8a16cc (bug 844331) for breaking telemetry submission numbers; a=bajaj
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138. # [01:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b5381804b7c - Olli Pettay - Bug 856351 - Paris binding for DragEvent, r=peterv
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140. # [01:14] * mbrubeck is curious to see if bug 856351 will increase PGO linker memory the way other Paris bindings seemed to.
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147. # [01:20] <@smaug> mbrubeck: if other bindings do that, then that patch would do it too
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149. # [01:21] <@smaug> mbrubeck: do we have some data that paris bindings increase linker's memusage a lot?
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151. # [01:21] * @smaug wonders if we could not use pgo for paris bindings. the new bindings are quite heavily optimized anyway
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153. # [01:22] <mbrubeck> That would basically mean moving the code out of libxul; if I understand right that would not be easy.
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155. # [01:22] <mbrubeck> smaug: For data, see https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/PVcbThwogSw/RtK-n7k4RPQJ
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157. # [01:23] <@smaug> I thought there was some way to not use pgo for some stuff within libxul...
158. # [01:24] <@smaug> I guess that is not possible after all
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161. # [01:26] <qDot> sewardj: ping
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165. # [01:27] <mbrubeck> smaug: Looks like you are right and we can disable PGO on specific directories; not sure how much this affects linker memory usage: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/VzYxsa-SRRE/wcjtHM5dT0IJ
166. # [01:28] <mbrubeck> smaug: I'll file a bug for further discussion.
167. # [01:29] <@smaug> thanks
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175. # [01:35] <mbrubeck> filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863492
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180. # [01:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e75ff759c5c1 - Steven Michaud - Bug 861317 - nsChildView::WillPaint terribly inefficient when drawing to titlebar. r=bgirard
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189. # [01:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/021bca10985b - John Schoenick - Bug 852315 - Use CheckPluginStopEvent for plugins when documents go inactive. r=bsmedberg
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201. # [01:54] <Hughman> Firefox 19 sometimes has really bad text/character clarity
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205. # [01:56] <dholbert> Hughman, Firefox 19 is out of date (20's been out for weeks)
206. # [01:56] <dholbert> Hughman, if you have a URL that reproduces it, please file a bug
207. # [01:57] <dholbert> lsblakk, in your EARLY_BETA_ONLY_FEATURE post - by "early beta" did you mean "aurora"?
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212. # [01:57] <dholbert> lsblakk, It's my understanding that we want beta to be essentially identical to what we're going to ship
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214. # [01:57] <Hughman> oh, sorry, this is currently 20
215. # [01:58] <dholbert> Hughman, file a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&component=Graphics , with a URL that reproduces the problem and a screenshot of what you see?
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217. # [02:00] <Hughman> dholbert: hmm... I cant give this URL because its in a secure area but I do know I have seen it elsewhere so Ill keep a lookout
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219. # [02:00] <dholbert> Hughman, gotcha
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222. # [02:00] <Hughman> dholbert: what is interesting is that within a minute the text suddenly becomes clear
223. # [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3297733a2661 - Terrence Cole - Bug 706885 - Implement generational GC for the SpiderMonkey interpreter; r=billm
224. # [02:01] <dholbert> Hughman, still worth filing a bug, with a screenshot of some non-private chunk of data on the page, if nothing else
225. # [02:02] <dholbert> Hughman, are you on Windows 7? if so, it sounds like Mook might know what's going on
226. # [02:02] <Hughman> dholbert: yes, windows 7
227. # [02:03] <Mook_as> Hughman: bug 812695?
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229. # [02:04] <nalexander> Was trychooser --post-to-bugzilla removed?
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234. # [02:06] <markh> \o/ - the best thing to see on your terminal in the morning can be "Clobber not needed" :)
235. # [02:07] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: you commented on the wrong patch in bug 860027 (I assume since if you did infact back that one out and none of the subsequent ones the tree would have burned)
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238. # [02:08] <Hughman> Mook_as: the first screenshot in that bug is exactly the same problem
239. # [02:08] <philor> nalexander: "removed" is so harsh, we prefer "thrown out of a moving vehicle in the woods and left to fend for itself"
240. # [02:09] <nalexander> philor: uh, not sure how to interpret that. Should I be filing tickets when my bugs are not posted to? Can you point me at the code that is supposed to post and I can try to figure out what's busted?
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242. # [02:10] <philor> nalexander: sure, never hurts to file; the code is in http://mxr.mozilla.org/build/source/autoland/ but what you would need more than the sight of the code is access to the machines where it's (not) running
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244. # [02:11] <nalexander> philor: thanks for the link, and I think I'll file first :)
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247. # [02:13] <philor> but its parents were an intern and someone who's no longer in releng, so it's unowned, making it equally possible that your bug will be picked up and fixed within 30 minutes, or that it will sit until it gets resolved because of a decomm or a 'replaced by the next thing'
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249. # [02:15] <cpeterson> dholbert: I think "EARLY_BETA_ONLY_FEATURE" means Beta builds b1-b4 (?), when the release drivers stop taking speculative fixes. Not Aurora.
250. # [02:15] <dholbert> cpeterson, gotcha
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252. # [02:16] <cpeterson> dholbert: Not that I think that's a good idea. <:) It's like we've split the Beta channel into two mini-channels. :)
253. # [02:17] <dholbert> Yeah, kinda seems like it :) For users on the beta channel, I think it'd be odd to have features randomly appearing/disappearing...
254. # [02:17] <nalexander> philor: oh, I see. What a pity.
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257. # [02:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e88f7f550c2b - Wes Johnston - Bug 859391 - Disable session restore in webapps. r=bnicholson
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283. # [02:41] <seth> if a method is marked [notxpcom] in the IDL, do you have to use NS_IMETHODIMP_ when implementing it? or should you just use the return type?
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285. # [02:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5719da78339 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 844887 - Inline IsCallable and ToObject intrinsics in Ion. (r=sstangl)
286. # [02:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/993d97de1132 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 860531 - Change AliasSet of MCallGetIntrinsicValue to None. (r=dvander)
287. # [02:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1d95089b0b7 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 859255 - Fix stitching up of parallel bailout basic blocks. (r=dvander)
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295. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db41fc9ad61d - Mark Hammond - Bug 824963 part 3 - add tests for arrow panels. r=enn.
296. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01a8ea541103 - Neil Deakin - Bug 824963 part 1 - Rework arrow positioning and alignment code for arrow panels to be simpler, using the actual anchor/alignment position rather than guessing this from
297. # [02:47] <firebot> the coordinates, fix centred positioning in rtl, r=neil
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300. # [02:50] <nemo> is there anything of any significance in gecko written in rust?
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303. # [02:53] <@bz> not in gecko
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307. # [02:56] <markh> MattN: can you clarify what you mean in the last para in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588305#c24 - do you mean I should just use the indexeddb image and be done with it, or that there should be a bug to create yet another image for "storage", or something else?
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314. # [03:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5da0e9f804a - David Zbarsky - Fix virtual dtor warning, no bug, blanket r=bz
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346. # [03:30] <philor> wesj: what have you done?!
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355. # [03:38] <lsblakk> dholbert: well, not always - we've put things into beta and then had to or wanted to pull them off
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426. # [04:55] <nrc> which header do I need to include to get PRId64 ?
427. # [04:57] <joe> "prtypes.h" ?
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430. # [04:59] * nrc tries
431. # [05:02] <nrc> this is not having the desired effect
432. # [05:02] <nrc> header file hell
433. # [05:02] <@roc> we really need a templated memcpy(T* dest, const T* src, int count) that does the sizeof for you
434. # [05:03] <@roc> I guess it'd be like std::copy
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439. # [05:06] <@roc> ehsan: when you edited the Web Audio spec, I think you should have said in ScriptProcessorNode that we recommend passing 0 for the buffer size because UA should be able to make better decisions
440. # [05:06] <@ehsan> I thought I did that
441. # [05:06] <@ehsan> roc: "It is recommended for authors to not specify this buffer size and allow the implementation to pick a good buffer size to balance between latency and audio quality. "
442. # [05:07] <@ehsan> roc: see mfbt/PodOperations.h
443. # [05:07] <@ehsan> roc: although I'm not a fan of the "fast paths" there :(
444. # [05:07] <@roc> ah, but there's another copy of most of that paragraph under ScriptProcessorNode
445. # [05:07] <@ehsan> roc: but I couldn't convince Waldo
446. # [05:08] <Waldo> hmm?
447. # [05:08] <@ehsan> oh of course there is
448. # [05:08] <@ehsan> roc: do you want me to repeat myself there too?
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450. # [05:08] <@roc> maybe it would be better to repeat the duplicate text somehow
451. # [05:08] <@roc> I mean
452. # [05:08] <@ehsan> Waldo: roc wanted something like PodOperations.h, and I felt free to express my unhappiness about the fast paths there ;)
453. # [05:08] <@roc> to NOT repeat the duplicate text
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455. # [05:09] <@ehsan> roc: honestly I'd rather leave that cleanup to crogers, if you think that's not a serious problem
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457. # [05:09] <@roc> ehsan: ok fine
458. # [05:09] <@ehsan> there's a ton of similar things that needs to happen in the spec anyways
459. # [05:09] <@roc> ehsan: you mean the "if (nelem < 128)" fast path?
460. # [05:09] <@ehsan> yeah
461. # [05:09] <@roc> yeah, I don't like the look of it either :-)
462. # [05:09] <Waldo> ehsan: ah; let me feel free to express that those fast paths were motivated by actual perf testing, while your complaints were not ;-)
463. # [05:09] <Waldo> roc: ^
464. # [05:10] <@ehsan> Waldo: but when? like 10 years ago? :P
465. # [05:10] <@roc> there must be some really bad compilers or libcs out there I guess
466. # [05:10] <Waldo> ehsan: it was since we moved into the current Mountain View office, at least
467. # [05:10] <@roc> which current MV office?
468. # [05:10] <Waldo> roc: 650 Castro, the only current MV office?
469. # [05:10] <@ehsan> Waldo: I think for new code to include such hacks, the patch must accompany recent perf results
470. # [05:10] <@ehsan> Waldo: so the burden of proof is on you :P
471. # [05:10] <@roc> oh, you haven't moved yet?
472. # [05:10] <Waldo> ehsan: it wasn't new code, it was moving it out of js, so not new
473. # [05:11] <Waldo> roc: won't move for about a year, no
474. # [05:11] <@roc> oh cool
475. # [05:11] <@ehsan> Waldo: it's "new" in mfbt
476. # [05:11] <@ehsan> the thing is, I actually wanted to advertize using this code everywhere
477. # [05:11] <@ehsan> including the stuff I'm working on right now
478. # [05:11] <@roc> ehsan: let's use it everywhere. If it's not good, we'll fix it one way or another
479. # [05:11] <@ehsan> but I have yet to see evidence that those fast paths are a good idea _today_, and on _all_ of our compilers
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481. # [05:12] <Waldo> ehsan: if "new" includes new-by-move, that's a pretty significant barrier to improving code organization
482. # [05:12] <@ehsan> roc: meh, I don't feel too strongly anyways, which is why I said "fine" in the bug
483. # [05:12] <@roc> I wish I'd known these existed
484. # [05:12] <@roc> although "PodOperations" is a bit obscure
485. # [05:12] <@ehsan> Waldo: well, you're the owner, so your word prevails mine here :)
486. # [05:12] <@ehsan> roc: they're quite new, like a few weeks old
487. # [05:12] <@roc> I suppose I can't think of anything better
488. # [05:13] <@ehsan> MemoryOperations?
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490. # [05:13] <Waldo> yeah, I gave it about thirty seconds' thought, there's probably something better
491. # [05:13] <@bz> WhaleGroupOperations?
492. # [05:13] <Waldo> "memory" is kinda vague
493. # [05:14] <@bz> StringOperations
494. # [05:14] <@bz> since it's memcpy
495. # [05:14] <@ehsan> string?
496. # [05:14] <@bz> and that lives in string.h
497. # [05:14] <Waldo> "string" only makes sense in a bizarre C holdover world :-)
498. # [05:14] <@ehsan> like a string of floats?
499. # [05:14] <@ehsan> or MyObjects?
500. # [05:14] <@roc> WhaleGroup? Is that some kind of math term?
501. # [05:14] <@bz> roc: Pod
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503. # [05:14] <@roc> oh come on
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505. # [05:14] <@bz> roc: It's late.
506. # [05:14] * @ehsan does not get the joke
507. # [05:14] * Waldo suspects most people don't naturally associate memcpy and strings, except unless they're thinking specifically of the header
508. # [05:14] <@bz> roc: and I'm low on sleep....
509. # [05:14] <@roc> don't quit your day job :-)
510. # [05:14] <@bz> roc: No plans to.
511. # [05:15] * Waldo declares that whale joke a breach of protocol
512. # [05:15] <@bz> ehsan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POD under Biology, second entry
513. # [05:16] <@bz> Waldo: It was my attempt at spdy, yeah.
514. # [05:16] <@dolske> whale trail! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwr6c2Ws1yI
515. # [05:16] <@ehsan> bz: seriously, don't quit your day job!
516. # [05:16] <@bz> ehsan: ;)
517. # [05:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a2592dba813 - Geoff Brown - Bug 859563 - Explicitly unregisterListener once event expecters are no longer needed; r=cpeterson
518. # [05:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec53926a1488 - Geoff Brown - Bug 859563 - Fix and make listener unregistration explicit; r=cpeterson
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520. # [05:16] <@ehsan> dolske: do you know every time I see your name on irc at this hour I shiver a bit?
521. # [05:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f39f67beae26 - Geoff Brown - Bug 859440 - Allow for ListView without adapter in robocop; r=jmaher
522. # [05:16] <@bz> dolske: so watching that muted is ... interesting
523. # [05:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/269c92289bad - Geoff Brown - Bug 844239 - Use blockForGeckoReady in testAwesomebarSwipes; r=jmaher
524. # [05:17] <@ehsan> dolske: last time you pinged me around this time it was about pwn2own!
525. # [05:17] <Waldo> ehsan: shiver not, he just left his desk :-)
526. # [05:17] <@ehsan> Waldo: \o/ no security bugs tonight!
527. # [05:17] <Waldo> heh
528. # [05:17] <Waldo> you should have done like the JS engine last year, and fixed the bug before pwn2own
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530. # [05:18] <@ehsan> Waldo: speaking of which, do I still owe you that js engine patch from 2 years ago? :)
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532. # [05:18] <@ehsan> Waldo: on a serious note, I did know about that bug for a long time :(
533. # [05:18] <@ehsan> but I did not know how bad it could be :/
534. # [05:19] <Waldo> ehsan: um, yes, yes you do, definitely, I've been holding that trump card for, oh, two years you said, waiting for the day to play it, and, um, which bug was this again?
535. # [05:19] <Waldo> ;-)
536. # [05:19] <@ehsan> Waldo: don't even remember
537. # [05:19] <Waldo> cheater :-)
538. # [05:19] <@ehsan> at the speed you guys work, pretty sure the code doesn't even exist any more!
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540. # [05:19] <@ehsan> it was something about optimizing an array operation perhaps?
541. # [05:19] <@bz> Two jits ago was it?
542. # [05:19] <Waldo> hmm
543. # [05:20] <@ehsan> bz: hehe, yeah
544. # [05:20] <Waldo> likely that code's changed a bit since, yeah
545. # [05:20] <@ehsan> I do remember I wrote a patch
546. # [05:20] <@ehsan> and you basically told me how wrong it is
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548. # [05:20] <Waldo> heh
549. # [05:20] <Waldo> btw, bz, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=897310a46b25
550. # [05:20] <@ehsan> and don't remember what happened next
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552. # [05:21] <@roc> is it true that for the first time in a decade there is no plan to write a new compiler?
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555. # [05:22] <@bz> waldo: awesome
556. # [05:22] <@ehsan> roc: a new js compiler?
557. # [05:22] <@ehsan> cause we just wrote one ;)
558. # [05:22] <@roc> yes
559. # [05:22] <@bz> we just wrote 2
560. # [05:22] <@ehsan> 2?
561. # [05:22] <@bz> asm.js, kinda
562. # [05:22] <@bz> and bc
563. # [05:22] <@ehsan> asm doesn't count
564. # [05:22] <@ehsan> that's... _just_ a new jit
565. # [05:22] <@roc> we just wrote 4, for a generous definition of "just"
566. # [05:22] <Waldo> ehsan: really it does
567. # [05:23] <@bz> it takes in js and produces native code
568. # [05:23] <@bz> anyway
569. # [05:23] <@bz> afaik people are sort of happy with BC+Ion for now, I think
570. # [05:23] <Waldo> ehsan: it's not particularly just-in-time, far more ahead-of-time except "ahead" is at parse time
571. # [05:23] <@bz> but we plan to revamp TI
572. # [05:23] * @ehsan is not sure whether he should close the <sarcasm> tag now...
573. # [05:23] <@ehsan> the html5 parser will figure it out!
574. # [05:23] <philor> how can you express "[Cut to the front of the line]" and "[No hurry, 2am will do]" in six or eight characters each?
575. # [05:23] <Waldo> ehsan: keep it open so philor can use it
576. # [05:24] <@ehsan> Waldo++
577. # [05:24] <@bz> philor: mememe and allgood
578. # [05:24] <philor> I opened mine in late 2004
579. # [05:24] <@bz> philor: or did you need exactly 6 or 8 rather than 6-8?
580. # [05:24] <@ehsan> and we haven't OOMed yet?
581. # [05:24] <@ehsan> you're clearly running a 64-bit browser!
582. # [05:24] <Waldo> ehsan: you said sarcasm, not pre or plaintext
583. # [05:24] <philor> 6-8 or thereabouts, for the +1 and -1 priority buttons on self-serve
584. # [05:25] <Waldo> ...and that is perhaps the most obscure Gecko in-joke I've ever cracked
585. # [05:25] <@ehsan> Waldo: plaintext? you can't just invent tags when it's convenient!
586. # [05:25] <Waldo> I couldn't remember exactly which, quite, so I scattershotted :-)
587. # [05:25] <@ehsan> heh
588. # [05:25] <Waldo> and actually html5 says you can, mostly :-)
589. # [05:25] <@ehsan> but seriously, I should propose <sarcasm> to whatwg
590. # [05:26] <Waldo> been done
591. # [05:26] <@ehsan> not having that is the main reason I don't blog too often
592. # [05:26] <Waldo> dunno what the response was offhand, I haven't read whatwg much at all in ages
593. # [05:26] <philor> "we can't tell whether or not you really mean to propose that"
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595. # [05:27] <@ehsan> ah
596. # [05:27] <@ehsan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2007Apr/0351.html
597. # [05:27] <@ehsan> philor++
598. # [05:27] <@ehsan> that's it
599. # [05:27] <@ehsan> I guess all great ideas have been proposed somewhere already
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601. # [05:29] <@roc> ehsan: nearly there. What do you know, it's a lot simpler now :-)
602. # [05:30] <@ehsan> true
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606. # [05:31] <nrc> Can anyone tell me why I have suddenly started getting errors compiling generated IPDL - undefined PRId64, I think, without the generated files changing at all? (Or the source files, for that matter). I imagine it is because I need to include some mystery file before including the generated-from-IPDL header
607. # [05:31] <nrc> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21985225&tree=Try&full=1#error0
608. # [05:32] <@roc> ehsan: we could optimize silent input more by avoiding useless memsets to zero, but it's not worth it at this stage
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611. # [05:35] <@bz> Who the hell writes this sort of code and why?
612. # [05:35] * markh wonders if <curse> has been proposed...
613. # [05:35] <@bz> I mean, other than Tobie Langel. :(
614. # [05:35] <@roc> markh: only the DOM API version
615. # [05:35] * markh wonders if that was <sarcasm>...
616. # [05:35] <@ehsan> roc: yeah I agree
617. # [05:36] <aja> mrmm...MIT on the news
618. # [05:36] <@bz> aja: ?
619. # [05:36] <aja> cop shot
620. # [05:36] <@ehsan> roc: 32 is what the spec says
621. # [05:37] <@roc> the spec says at least 32
622. # [05:37] <markh> <sarcasm>well that was <curse>fucking</curse> enlightening</sarcasm>
623. # [05:37] <@ehsan> oh it does?
624. # [05:37] <@ehsan> roc: right, I misread that
625. # [05:37] <@ehsan> roc: so, do you want me to life that restriction?
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628. # [05:38] <@roc> markh: I think you should just go all the way and use <span lang="jbo">
629. # [05:38] <@ehsan> *lift
630. # [05:38] <@roc> yes
631. # [05:38] <@ehsan> ok
632. # [05:38] <@roc> obviously we have to handle the obvious OOM attack
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634. # [05:39] <@ehsan> roc: AudioBuffer does fallible allocation for that, but I guess we can OOM before then in this case
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638. # [05:40] <@ehsan> roc: the easiest defence would be refusing arbitrarily large values up front
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641. # [05:43] <@roc> maybe use a limit of 10000 or something genuinely ridiculous that still shouldn't OOM on the channels array
642. # [05:43] <@ehsan> roc: I shouldn't have told you about PodOperations ;)
643. # [05:43] <@roc> hehehe
644. # [05:44] <@ehsan> roc: ok 10000 it is
645. # [05:44] <@ehsan> roc: but seriously, I was going to do a wholesale conversion after this patch. can this wait?
646. # [05:44] <@roc> make it a named constant
647. # [05:44] <@roc> sure
648. # [05:44] * @bz files bugs, tweets
649. # [05:45] <@ehsan> named in Gecko, not content, right?
650. # [05:45] <@ehsan> bz: do you tweet?
651. # [05:45] <@bz> ehsan: sometimes
652. # [05:45] <@bz> ehsan: In this case a I have a "stop using this JS library" PSA...
653. # [05:45] <@ehsan> didn't know that
654. # [05:46] <@ehsan> hehe
655. # [05:46] <@ehsan> what's your handle?
656. # [05:46] <@bz> bz_moz
657. # [05:46] <@bz> bz and bzbarsky were both taken
658. # [05:46] <@bz> The latter by a squatter. :(
659. # [05:47] <@ehsan> bz: oh look I already follow you
660. # [05:47] <@bz> lol
661. # [05:47] <@ehsan> this is how much I don't use twitter I guess
662. # [05:47] <@ehsan> which reminds me, bz, do you wanna convince me that I should?
663. # [05:47] <@bz> which?
664. # [05:48] <@ehsan> twitter
665. # [05:48] <@bz> I treat it mostly as write-only
666. # [05:48] <@bz> I get mail when someone mentions me
667. # [05:48] <@bz> but I don't follow anyone
668. # [05:48] * @bz used to follow some people via RSS, but they tweet too much
669. # [05:49] <@dolske> sorry
670. # [05:49] <@dolske> ;)
671. # [05:49] <@bz> Wasn't you. ;)
672. # [05:49] <@ehsan> heh
673. # [05:49] <@bz> Anyway, as a mostly-write-only medium I like it fine. ;)
674. # [05:49] <@ehsan> bz: it's ok, I like to remain unconvinced!
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679. # [05:51] <qDot> I think I've permanently scarred gal multiple times.
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681. # [05:52] <@ehsan> qDot: what's your handle? :)
682. # [05:52] <qDot> qdot
683. # [05:53] <@ehsan> lol, I just realized that if you asked me the same question I coulnd't answer it!
684. # [05:54] * @bz hates buggy libraries.
685. # [05:54] <qDot> ehsan: Obviously you don't live in the bay area, where we now give our twitter handle before our real time.
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687. # [05:54] <@ehsan> hehe, no, I prefer to give my real name
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689. # [05:55] <@ehsan> both in real life and on irc ;)
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694. # [05:57] <dubcanada> Anyone up?
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697. # [06:01] <jcranmer> no, we all died
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699. # [06:02] <dubcanada> lol, I'm wondering if there has been any progress on the embedding c++ api?
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703. # [06:05] <qDot> I thought that's pretty much dead and gone?
704. # [06:05] <dubcanada> That's what I was afraid of.
705. # [06:05] <dubcanada> So XPCOM is the only way atm?
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712. # [06:12] <robarnold> dubcanada: pretty sure and I'm not sure how well supported it is. Depending on your use case, you may be better off with the Chromium Embedding Framework.
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714. # [06:14] <dubcanada> k
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723. # [06:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/358684072c30 - Wes Johnston - Bug 859391 - Disable session restore in webapps. r=bnicholson
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728. # [06:30] <Ra__> Hello,
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732. # [06:31] <Ra__> I need some help regarding building firefox, http://pastebin.com/Zeghatd1 this is the error while building...
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736. # [06:36] <Ra__> Hello, Anybody!
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738. # [06:37] <@roc> no idea sorry
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741. # [06:39] <Ra__> roc: what could be done then?..
742. # [06:40] <@roc> check python version?
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744. # [06:40] <Ra__> its 2.7.3
745. # [06:41] <markh> check libxul.xo isn't < 4 bytes long - that will make the build system think it is an "unknown" type of executable
746. # [06:41] <markh> and if it is, delete it and try again I guess :)
747. # [06:42] <markh> err - libxul.so
748. # [06:42] <@bz> <4 bytes, eh?
749. # [06:42] * darkowlzz is now known as darkowlzz|afk
750. # [06:42] <@bz> That could be bad
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752. # [06:42] <markh> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mozbuild/mozpack/executables.py#36
753. # [06:42] <markh> I'm guessing zero bytes :)
754. # [06:42] * @bz is pretty sure you can't encode a CSS renderer in 4 bytes
755. # [06:43] <markh> but that's only because you've never tried to do it yet ;)
756. # [06:43] <@bz> No, because Mr. Shannon. ;)
757. # [06:44] <mjrosenb> well, it depends on the processor
758. # [06:45] <mjrosenb> if apple *really* puts all of their money into html5/css, then I would imagine they could have a processor that would happily encode a css renderer in 4 bytes worth of instructions.
759. # [06:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1997e63a1124 - David Zbarsky - [Bug 862129] Cleanup nsDocument r=Ms2ger
760. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2eca17711eff - David Zbarsky - Bug 857884 - Use dom::EventTarget more in content/ and dom/ Part 4 r=Ms2ger
761. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec91252c57d2 - David Zbarsky - [Bug 857884] Use dom::EventTarget more instead of nsIDOMEventTarget Part 5 r=Ms2ger
762. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f53ad2a10ff8 - David Zbarsky - [Bug 857884] Use dom::EventTarget more instead of nsIDOMEventTarget Part 6 r=Ms2ger
763. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e57ac5581703 - David Zbarsky - [Bug 857884] Use dom::EventTarget more instead of nsIDOMEventTarget Part 7 r=Ms2ger
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766. # [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd218e07ede2 - David Zbarsky - Bug 852055 - Pass an EventTarget argument to Document.createTouch in WebIDL r=bz
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769. # [06:48] <Ra__> markh: I'm sorry but libxul at what location?
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773. # [06:51] <mattwoodrow> Ra__: <objdir>/dist/bin
774. # [06:51] <markh> Ra__: from the looks of that log, obj-i686-pc-linux-gnu/dist/bin
775. # [06:52] <Gijs> does anyone know about osfile and errors if it's imported synchronously (rather than through a lazy module getter?
776. # [06:52] <Gijs> (or even if it *is* in a lazy module getter but it's perhaps used quite early in the app's lifecycle?)
777. # [06:52] <Gijs> I'm seeing "typeerror i is undefined" errors emanating from loading that file, which is scary.
778. # [06:53] <Gijs> (and breaks the world)
779. # [06:53] <Gijs> (os x, if that matters)
780. # [06:54] <markh> "i is undefined" is a somewhat philosophical error...
781. # [06:54] <Ra__> markh: there is no libxul.so in <objdir>/dist/bin however there is one in <objdir>/toolkit/library
782. # [06:55] <Gijs> markh: indeed.
783. # [06:55] <Gijs> line 90 of ospath_unix_back.jsm...
784. # [06:55] * Gijs would really like a stack but doesn't get one. :\
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787. # [06:58] <markh> Ra__: that's strange - is that one < 4 bytes? I guess I'm wondering if a previous build was interrupted or something. Maybe try deleting the entire objdir and trying again?
788. # [07:02] <Ra__> markh: Yes you are right! previous build was interrupted by an unexpected shutdown... I tried deleting the libxul.so in toolkit/library... seems to be working..
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790. # [07:03] <markh> great!
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821. # [07:23] <mbrubeck> dzbarsky: There's some red on your inbound push
822. # [07:23] <mbrubeck> s/some/lots/
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825. # [07:24] <mbrubeck> ooh, I get to use 'hg revert'
826. # [07:25] <mjrosenb> mbrubeck: red is the gateway color.
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829. # [07:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/583bf36efce8 - Matt Brubeck - Back out cd218e07ede2, e57ac5581703, f53ad2a10ff8, ec91252c57d2, 2eca17711eff, 1997e63a1124 for build errors
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838. # [07:36] <dzbarsky> mbrubeck: thanks.
839. # [07:37] <mbrubeck> np
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852. # [07:44] <Gijs> So is anyone around who knows why we have both ProfD and ProfDS?
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854. # [07:45] <Gijs> ProfDS is available earlier on startup, but I don't understand why we don't just only use that, rather than ProfD.
855. # [07:45] <mjrosenb> Gijs: hysterical raisins?
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857. # [07:46] <Gijs> mjrosenb: funny, but bug 277578 (which introduced ProfDS) doesn't really seem to say...
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862. # [07:47] <mjrosenb> that bug number is...very low
863. # [07:48] <mjrosenb> Reported:2005-01-08 13:24
864. # [07:48] <mjrosenb> yuuup.
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866. # [07:49] <mjrosenb> bsmedberg: ping?
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869. # [07:51] <mjrosenb> Gijs: he'd know, but I don't know what timezone he is in.
870. # [07:51] <mjrosenb> !seen bsmedberg
871. # [07:51] <firebot> bsmedberg was last seen 11 hours, 8 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying 'ted: haha, I've gotten to the point where I just read disassembly and line numbers' in #breakpad.
872. # [07:51] <Gijs> mjrosenb: yeah, so, this breaks OS.Constants.Path.profileDir, and therefore OS.File, badly, if it's used too early.
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874. # [07:51] * Gijs is filing at the moment with ?needinfo=bsmedberg, and hopes to have nsIAnswers tomorrow! :)
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876. # [07:52] <Gijs> Alright, time to head home. Thanks! :)
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881. # [07:53] <mjrosenb> "nsIanswers"?
882. # [07:54] <mjrosenb> someone will have to explain the joke to me tomorrow.
883. # [07:54] <WeirdAl> .get() returns 42
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886. # [07:55] <markh> mjrosenb: https://twitter.com/nsIAnswers
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897. # [08:01] <mjrosenb> markh: oic. that makes it so much clearer.
898. # [08:01] <mjrosenb> oh hey, I drove by his house earlier today
899. # [08:01] <mjrosenb> well
900. # [08:01] <mjrosenb> like
901. # [08:02] <mjrosenb> a few minutes away from his hometown.
902. # [08:02] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: yeah, was about to say :)
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908. # [08:05] <mjrosenb> yes, the thing that is less creepy.
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921. # [08:14] <Optimizer> what is the right channel for infra related qustions
922. # [08:14] <Optimizer> like how to know who triggered a rebuild on try
923. # [08:14] <Optimizer> etc
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925. # [08:15] <Optimizer> ok, got it,
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936. # [08:22] <seedo> @MattN : there's already an autosuggest search engine right ?
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979. # [08:56] <heycam> anybody else have problems with flash video on a retina mbp? I just updated my Nightly (from one a couple of weeks old) and now flash video shows only the top-left quarter
980. # [08:56] <heycam> maybe something with recent layers work?
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982. # [08:58] <darktrojan> is there an australis meta meta bug?
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1015. # [09:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faf24511d2c6 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 861636. Add some null checking to the ensure texture path. r=nical
1016. # [09:32] <seedo> I want to make an add on ... any example source code ?
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1027. # [09:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/335029350f8e - Panos Astithas - Bug 862360 - Use the exported Promise.all instead of reimplementing it; r=rcampbell
1028. # [09:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ef07def8f957 - Girish Sharma - Bug 861908 - While unregistering, first destroy the tool, then remove its panel from toolbox, r=jwalker
1029. # [09:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a3106e83dd0c - Girish Sharma - Bug 861817 - Stop using Ctrl+Shift+O shortcut for function searching, r=vporof
1030. # [09:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/64d6d002e888 - Tim Taubert - merge m-c to fx-team
1031. # [09:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fe573a582083 - Girish Sharma - Bug 851546 - Options panel for DevTools Toolbox, r=jwalker,vporof,past
1032. # [09:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/630fa3185e7e - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 855502 - we need a proper design for the new checkboxes r=benvie
1033. # [09:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a7e584370ab9 - Josh Marchán - Bug 861192 - gcli addon command shows [object Object] instead of a list of addons; r=mratcliffe
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1040. # [09:47] <nical|away> seedo: you should look at this: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Jetpack
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1045. # [09:48] <nical> seedo: it links to examples among other things
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1101. # [10:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94fa2c4b6041 - John Daggett - Bug 761442 - additional reftests for space lookups. r=jkew
1102. # [10:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a87f8246db47 - Jonathan Kew - bug 761442 - reftest for ligatures that span inter-word space. r=jdaggett
1103. # [10:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe573a582083 - Girish Sharma - Bug 851546 - Options panel for DevTools Toolbox, r=jwalker,vporof,past
1104. # [10:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1198271a9a6 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central to mozilla-inbound
1105. # [10:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7e584370ab9 - Josh Marchán - Bug 861192 - gcli addon command shows [object Object] instead of a list of addons; r=mratcliffe
1106. # [10:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/335029350f8e - Panos Astithas - Bug 862360 - Use the exported Promise.all instead of reimplementing it; r=rcampbell
1107. # [10:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/630fa3185e7e - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 855502 - we need a proper design for the new checkboxes r=benvie
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1111. # [10:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3106e83dd0c - Girish Sharma - Bug 861817 - Stop using Ctrl+Shift+O shortcut for function searching, r=vporof
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1113. # [10:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef07def8f957 - Girish Sharma - Bug 861908 - While unregistering, first destroy the tool, then remove its panel from toolbox, r=jwalker
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1266. # [12:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a55715677d7 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 856807. Add apparently-pointless call to SetClipRect(nullptr) to avoid Android regression. r=mattwoodrow
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1296. # [12:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ecc1c0eef3d - Jim Mathies - Bug 859154 - add a pageshow promise to addTab. r=sfoster
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1415. # [13:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5aac2bd2db88 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 862268 - 2/2: test cases. r=gene.lian
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1419. # [13:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6a1f26c76aec - Josh Matthews - Bug 831107 - Part 1: Allow TCPSocket consumers to receive typed array data without converting it to a byte string first. r=vlad
1420. # [13:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dc68cf5c11c2 - Eric Chou - Bug 860166 - Use two server sockets to listen to both HFP and HSP services, r=gyeh, r=mrbkap
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1432. # [13:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/532c3e448de0 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 724368 - Expose the maximum number of threads to JS. r=froydnj
1433. # [13:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c549149d2b9e - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 724368 - Transmit the maximum number of threads as a simple measure. r=froydnj
1434. # [13:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0127d272357d - Andres Hernandez - Bug 855842 - Update calls to PlacesUtils.importJSONNode with BookmarkJSONUtils.importJSONNode. r=mak
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1464. # [14:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0aab4158b4e5 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 849996. Check the correct frame for transforms in PushAbsoluteContainingBlock --- it might not be the containing block itself. r=bzbarsky
1465. # [14:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67ceea995837 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 862180. Part 2: Rename nsDisplayItem::GetUnderlyingFrame() to Frame(). r=mattwoodrow
1466. # [14:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4675831aff1c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 862180. Part 1: Remove null checks on the result of nsDisplayItem::GetUnderlyingFrame(). r=mattwoodrow
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1502. # [14:23] <tomer> I've just reported a bug that occur only on dual gpus. Which is the right component to report such crashes?
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1506. # [14:24] <jfkthame> graphics, presumably
1507. # [14:24] <Ms2ger> Core::Graphics
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1509. # [14:24] <tomer> Already got my answer and a developer attension. Thanks anyway. ☺ (Bug 863683)
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1513. # [14:27] <jlebar|away> glandium: on b2g, std::string uses system malloc, not jemalloc?
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1517. # [14:29] <glandium> jlebar|away: depends what is inlined and what is not
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1519. # [14:30] <jlebar|away> glandium: that sounds like a recipe for complete and utter disaster
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1521. # [14:31] <glandium> jlebar|away: thus bug 850576
1522. # [14:31] <@smaug> !seen surkov
1523. # [14:31] <@killer> I don't know who surkov is.
1524. # [14:31] <firebot> surkov was last seen 34 hours, 7 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying 'ok, cool' in #accessibility.
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1526. # [14:32] <GPHemsley> Anyone else experiencing crash on startup for today's Nightly?
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1528. # [14:33] <RyanVM> jdm: b2g bustage
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1530. # [14:33] <jdm> argh
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1533. # [14:34] <jdm> I hate juggling totally incompatible patches between branches
1534. # [14:34] <jdm> sorry
1535. # [14:34] <alice0775> GPHemsley: maybe Bug 863646
1536. # [14:34] <jdm> ...
1537. # [14:34] <jdm> really
1538. # [14:34] <jdm> -Werror strikes again
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1540. # [14:34] <jlebar|away> glandium: right, but I hadn't considered that std::string, for example, might have an allocator mismatch depending on how we inline things.
1541. # [14:34] <jlebar|away> glandium: that's terrifying.
1542. # [14:35] <RyanVM> jdm: It's fun, isn't it? :P
1543. # [14:35] <glandium> jlebar|away: for b2g, it /might/ make sense to just change the system allocator
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1545. # [14:35] <jlebar|away> glandium: to call into jemalloc?
1546. # [14:35] <glandium> jlebar|away: put jemalloc into bionic
1547. # [14:35] <jdm> RyanVM: I'll push a build fix
1548. # [14:36] <RyanVM> thanks
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1552. # [14:37] <jlebar|away> glandium: I'll file a bug.
1553. # [14:38] <Yoric> NeilAway: I meant #define DEBUG.
1554. # [14:38] <Yoric> Ah, nsIDebug2.
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1558. # [14:39] <RyanVM> jdm: so you're going to fix the browserelement code -20 failures next, right? :P
1559. # [14:39] <jdm> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
1560. # [14:40] * jdm looks
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1562. # [14:40] <jdm> RyanVM: where's this?
1563. # [14:41] <RyanVM> bug 856024
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1565. # [14:41] <jdm> oh, I assumed it was something burning
1566. # [14:41] <jdm> that's a relief
1567. # [14:41] <RyanVM> heh
1568. # [14:41] <RyanVM> you know the rule
1569. # [14:42] <RyanVM> you touch it, you own it
1570. # [14:42] <jdm> I was just jlebar's flunky
1571. # [14:43] <RyanVM> jdm: no excuses!
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1573. # [14:46] <Optimizer> wow, I own dom/base/nsJSEnvironment.cpp
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1578. # [14:48] <@smaug> Optimizer: you own that?
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1580. # [14:49] <@smaug> I'm pretty sure I'm not ready to give CC scheduling handling to you ;)
1581. # [14:49] <@smaug> feel free to take the rest of the file
1582. # [14:49] <Optimizer> haha
1583. # [14:49] <Optimizer> as per RyanVM, I own that
1584. # [14:49] <Optimizer> and most of the devtools code too
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1586. # [14:49] <NeilAway> Yoric: silly me, that's in nsIDebug2 of course
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1589. # [14:50] <@smaug> Optimizer: RyanVM owns everything. He touches everything all the time
1590. # [14:50] <NeilAway> Yoric: oh, I see you already found it :-)
1591. # [14:50] <Optimizer> smaug: yup, he should fix all the burns of the tree ;)
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1593. # [14:52] <Optimizer> but smaug, you should feel safer on letting me handle CC scheduling (re: my nick)
1594. # [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33ba06eba4bb - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset dc2ced1dd175 (bug 860524) for reftest failures
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1602. # [14:56] <RyanVM> smaug: noooooo
1603. # [14:57] <gabor> http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
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1620. # [15:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dcc71e2b291c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 863092 - Make mach run and mach debug run firefox -no-remote; r=gps
1621. # [15:04] <@smaug> oh, mach didn't do that ?
1622. # [15:04] <@smaug> odd
1623. # [15:05] <@ehsan> it does now!
1624. # [15:05] <tbsaunde|pto> smaug: presumably it just ran firefox without args?
1625. # [15:05] <@ehsan> yep
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1627. # [15:05] <Optimizer> when will mach make coffee for me ?
1628. # [15:05] <padenot> do we still have to set the profile etc. ?
1629. # [15:05] <Optimizer> is there a bug for itor should I open ?
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1633. # [15:06] <@ehsan> padenot: yes, mach run -P name
1634. # [15:06] <tbsaunde|pto> why can't we just fix firefox -P <name> to dtrt?
1635. # [15:07] <padenot> ehsan: brilliant
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1637. # [15:07] <@ehsan> padenot: also, mach debug -P name
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1639. # [15:07] <@ehsan> tbsaunde|pto: because you may want remoting
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1645. # [15:09] <tbsaunde|pto> ehsan: I claim if I pass -P name where name != other profile name I always want remoting
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1647. # [15:09] <tbsaunde|pto> err, no remoting
1648. # [15:09] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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1650. # [15:10] <sewardj> ted: BenWa: here's something interesting: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2320029
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1653. # [15:10] <sewardj> ted: BenWa: these are stats for how each frame was got hold of, for a linux32 build as similar to nightly as I can get it
1654. # [15:11] <sewardj> so it is actually mostly using FP unwinding
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1656. # [15:11] <BenWa> excellent
1657. # [15:11] <@ted> nice
1658. # [15:12] <sewardj> BenWa: ted: and the profiles actually look sane -- i can back up to XRE_Main etc
1659. # [15:12] <BenWa> sewardj: Why is the total always 4000?
1660. # [15:12] <@ehsan> tbsaunde|pto: you can't know the name of the other profile without remoting, can you? ;)
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1662. # [15:12] <RyanVM> BenWa: congrats on the profiler patches sticking :)
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1664. # [15:12] <sewardj> BenWa: just because I made it dump stats every 4000 frames -- arbitrary
1665. # [15:12] <BenWa> RyanVM: Yes finally. Thank you for being patient with me :)
1666. # [15:13] <BenWa> ahh ok, then it looks good
1667. # [15:13] <tbsaunde|pto> ehsan: well, you could try and take the lock for the profile dir if that fails remote
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1669. # [15:13] <RyanVM> BenWa: well, it's certainly maddening when it keeps bouncing due to problems that only occur when things are failing :)
1670. # [15:13] <@ehsan> I guess
1671. # [15:13] <RyanVM> hard to test on Try :)
1672. # [15:14] <tbsaunde|pto> because if you take the lock then that profile wasn't running so you should get a new process other wise some other process had the lock so remote to it
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1674. # [15:14] <BenWa> Yes. I might land a patch to clean up our startup/cleanup code a bit
1675. # [15:14] <sewardj> BenWa: ted: I'm inclined to change it to 5000, tidy up the patch and land it, so we can get some diagnostic info out of nightlies. Otherwise we're just guessing. And it'll be handy on Android too.
1676. # [15:15] <BenWa> sewardj: I agree. Let's put it under profiler_verbose
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1678. # [15:15] <sewardj> BenWa: will do
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1680. # [15:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffa0f671afd9 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 859172 - Call SetInputErrorBehavior from convertURItoUnicode. r=smontagu
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1682. # [15:17] <jesup> bjacob: ping
1683. # [15:18] <bjacob> jesup: pong
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1686. # [15:20] <jesup> bjacob: my (linux desktop) profiles show a fair bit of CPU use in FastConvertYUVToRGB32Row(). libyuv (media/webrtc/trunk/third_party/libyuv) has a bunch of optimized-for-neon conversion functions in there; that might be of help for b2g (and android)
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1688. # [15:20] <bjacob> jesup: if we're doing any YUVtoRGB conversion on the CPU, that's a bug
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1691. # [15:21] <bjacob> jesup: that's a job for the compositor to run on the GPU
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1693. # [15:22] <jesup> my linux build: GPU Accelerated Windows 0/23 Basic
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1695. # [15:22] <RyanVM> jdm: so, remember that conversation we were just having? :)
1696. # [15:22] <@ted> 23, yike
1697. # [15:22] <jesup> F17, Nvidia drivers, Quadro 600 card
1698. # [15:22] <RyanVM> jdm: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22008144&tree=Mozilla-B2g18_v1_0_1
1699. # [15:22] <jdm_> uh oh
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1701. # [15:22] <jesup> ted: don't ask how many tabs I have
1702. # [15:22] <jdm_> raaaaaaaargh what
1703. # [15:22] <jdm_> I fixed those
1704. # [15:23] * jdm_ checks the patch that was pushed
1705. # [15:23] <bjacob> jesup: oh, i didn't read "linux desktop"
1706. # [15:23] <bjacob> jesup: sure enough, we dont do GL compositing by default on linux.
1707. # [15:23] <RyanVM> jdm_: That's actually on your push :)
1708. # [15:23] <bjacob> jesup: but on B2G or Android we should use the GPU. If you see any YUVtoRGB function in a profile there, please file a bug
1709. # [15:23] <jesup> bjacob: what about on b2g? Will the yuvtorgb stuff be a bottleneck there too?
1710. # [15:24] <bjacob> ^
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1712. # [15:24] <jesup> thanks
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1714. # [15:24] * jesup needs to get jprof to work on android/b2g... ;-)
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1717. # [15:24] <jdm_> sigh
1718. # [15:24] <jdm_> something went weird there
1719. # [15:24] <bjacob> jesup: the built-in gecko profiler works there. also perf works on b2g.
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1723. # [15:26] <@dbaron> jesup, I actually started poking at that
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1725. # [15:26] <@dbaron> jesup, I may have written appropriate code for the register-getting part (still untested); still need to figure out what to replace the link map dumping with
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1727. # [15:27] <jesup> dbaron: I have a patch to fix up jprof (mainly the analysis part; it was mallocing/reallocing objects...)
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1729. # [15:27] <jdm_> RyanVM: how would you feel about leaving that in the tree and me filing a bug to fix the presumably intermittent failure?
1730. # [15:27] <jdm_> and assigning it to myself and actually putting effort into it :)
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1733. # [15:28] <jesup> dbaron: and since you're on.... ;-)
1734. # [15:28] <RyanVM> jdm_: wait, people care about tests failing on b2g18?
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1736. # [15:28] <RyanVM> jdm_: fine by me
1737. # [15:28] <jdm_> cool
1738. # [15:28] <RyanVM> jdm_: but only if you file
1739. # [15:28] <RyanVM> :P
1740. # [15:28] <jdm_> doing so now
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1750. # [15:35] <jesup> dbaron: bug 863429 (jprof analysis cleanup; fix spelling error in libmalloc)
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1754. # [15:35] <jesup> as it's NPOTB, I'm good with rs= if you like
1755. # [15:35] <Tomcat> bsmedberg: thanks benjamin, will work on the support of all browsers
1756. # [15:35] <Tomcat> was also my feeling after the mail exchange
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1758. # [15:36] <jesup> I couldn't bring myself to just memset the array of objects... so I cleaned it up and made it an indirect array of objects
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1778. # [15:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80773d7faa38 - Bobby Holley - Bug 862918 - Tests for showModalDialog. r=bz
1779. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18bd27173b5d - Bobby Holley - Bug 862918 - Only pass aIsModalContentWindow if we're actually a content docshell. r=bz
1780. # [15:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d1093cca56b - Bobby Holley - Bug 862918 - Add a utility method on Cu to get the class name of an object. r=bz
1781. # [15:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b1728f06727 - Bobby Holley - Bug 862918 - Only create nsGlobalModalWindow for the primary content shell. r=bz
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1788. # [15:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/931e85b3d576 - Randell Jesup - Bug 863429: Fix jprof on debug builds, remove evilness NPOTB DONTBUILD rs=dbaron
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1790. # [15:57] <RyanVM> nice, one of the local strip clubs just ran a radio advertisement where they said they were a perfect location for divorce parties
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1793. # [16:00] <@ted> sfink|away: ping
1794. # [16:00] <bholley> ted: do you know much about startup?
1795. # [16:01] <@ted> bholley: some
1796. # [16:01] <bholley> ted: so, I added some dependencies on nsContentUtils to nsWindowWatcher
1797. # [16:01] <bholley> ted: now, I'm running into the problem that doing |./firefox -P| without anything after the "-P" invokes that code without having called Init() on nsContentUtils
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1799. # [16:02] <bholley> ted: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/cb792cfc-97dd-47bb-b0b6-e99fd2130419
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1801. # [16:02] <@ted> bleh
1802. # [16:02] <bholley> ted: any suggestions?
1803. # [16:02] <@ted> so yeah, the profile manager shows a window
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1808. # [16:06] <jesup> dbaron: I should check if the cleopatra output from jprof still works (should)
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1810. # [16:07] <@ted> bholley: i don't have anything for you, no
1811. # [16:07] <@ted> maybe try b smedberg
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1814. # [16:07] <bholley> bsmedberg: yt?
1815. # [16:07] <bsmedberg> here
1816. # [16:07] <RyanVM> bjacob: ping
1817. # [16:07] <bholley> bsmedberg: see my question to ted?
1818. # [16:07] <bsmedberg> There is a reason I wanted to remove the @#$ profile manager
1819. # [16:08] <bsmedberg> bholley: nsContentUtils::Init you said?
1820. # [16:08] <bjacob> RyanVM: pong
1821. # [16:08] <bholley> bsmedberg: yeah
1822. # [16:08] <RyanVM> bjacob: so of course, now we're just dying elsewhere in webgl on xp :) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22011122&tree=Mozilla-Central
1823. # [16:08] <bsmedberg> I'm pretty sure we should be calling that
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1825. # [16:09] <bholley> bsmedberg: where?
1826. # [16:09] <bholley> bsmedberg: before XPCOM startup?
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1828. # [16:09] <bjacob> RyanVM: are we at least dying at a lower frequency?
1829. # [16:09] <bsmedberg> bholley: oh no, it gets called from the layout module ctor
1830. # [16:09] <bsmedberg> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/build/nsLayoutStatics.cpp#164
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1833. # [16:10] <bjacob> RyanVM: i see, this is just after more bufferData tests. there is a pattern there. File a bug, i'll throw a few more tests into the disable-on-winxp list
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1835. # [16:10] <bjacob> RyanVM: will commute now
1836. # [16:10] <RyanVM> bjacob thanks :)
1837. # [16:11] <bholley> bsmedberg: I guess I could add a partial startup routine to nsContentUtils
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1839. # [16:11] <bholley> bsmedberg: EnsureContextStack
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1841. # [16:11] <bholley> bsmedberg: that we could invoke earlier
1842. # [16:11] <bsmedberg> bholley: I'm confused, why do we need to do it earlier?
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1844. # [16:12] <bholley> bsmedberg: because of this crash: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/cb792cfc-97dd-47bb-b0b6-e99fd2130419
1845. # [16:12] <bholley> bsmedberg: at that point, we haven't yet started up nsContentUtils
1846. # [16:12] <bholley> bsmedberg: specifically, when you do |./firefox -P| with no argument to -P
1847. # [16:12] <bholley> bsmedberg: try it yourself on today's nightly :-)
1848. # [16:12] <bsmedberg> bholley: but... you mean we got to nsWindowWatcher without ever having gotten the layout module? That seems insane
1849. # [16:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f10f33fc2e93 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 859257 - Backout original fix 4c0d13ce4c4a since ab6e995676bd has superseded it
1850. # [16:13] <bholley> bsmedberg: sure does, but that's what the stack says
1851. # [16:13] <bsmedberg> bholley: I don't have time to debug this, but this doesn't seem right
1852. # [16:13] <bholley> bsmedberg: who initializes the layout module?
1853. # [16:13] <bholley> bsmedberg: XPCOM startup?
1854. # [16:13] <bsmedberg> bholley: we initialize the layout module in order to parse XPCOM manifests, I'm pretty sure!
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1857. # [16:14] <bholley> bsmedberg: we do this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/xre/nsAppRunner.cpp#3932
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1859. # [16:14] <bholley> bsmedberg: which is above the ScopedXPCOMStartup
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1862. # [16:14] <BenWa> jesup: does jprof profile multiple threads?
1863. # [16:14] <bsmedberg> bholley: no its not, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/64d6d002e888/toolkit/xre/nsAppRunner.cpp#l1880
1864. # [16:15] <bholley> bsmedberg: oh, showProfileManager does its own XPCOM startup
1865. # [16:15] <bholley> wild
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1869. # [16:16] <bholley> bsmedberg: ok, let me debug this and see why it's not happening
1870. # [16:16] <bholley> bsmedberg: sec
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1904. # [16:38] <RyanVM> Yoric: ping
1905. # [16:40] <glandium> remote: abort: Operation not permitted: /repo/hg/mozilla/try/.hg/journal.bookmarks
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1909. # [16:41] <Yoric> RyanVM: pong
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1911. # [16:42] <RyanVM> Yoric: I suspect that bug 724368 is causing intermittent Linux reftest-ipc hangs
1912. # [16:42] <RyanVM> i've got retriggers going, but it fits
1913. # [16:43] <Yoric> Mmmh...
1914. # [16:43] <Yoric> I can't see any relationship between this bug and reftest-ipc.
1915. # [16:43] <RyanVM> Yoric: or not
1916. # [16:43] <Yoric> But if you need to, just revert it.
1917. # [16:43] <RyanVM> just got orange further back :P
1918. # [16:43] <Yoric> It's not critical.
1919. # [16:43] <Yoric> :)
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1925. # [16:45] <Yoric> RyanVM: Well, keep me informed.
1926. # [16:45] <Yoric> Mmmh...
1927. # [16:45] <RyanVM> Yoric: I'm 99.9% sure you're in the clear :)
1928. # [16:45] <Yoric> For some reason, I can't access tbpl atm.
1929. # [16:45] <Yoric> Pfew.
1930. # [16:45] <Yoric> Thanks :)
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1944. # [16:54] <firebot> Check-in:
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1946. # [16:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/474291134a4a - Mihai Sucan - Bug 855763 - [Responsive Mode] Fix for intermittent browser_responsiveuiaddcustompreset.js | Test timed out, | Found a tab after previous test timed out:
1947. # [16:54] <firebot> data:text/html,foo, browser_Services.js | Services.prompt is an nsIPromptService; r=jwalker
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1962. # [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67637acf6a53 - Jim Mathies - Bug 834370 - Remove old state tracking from selection handler. r=sfoster
1963. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c91bc5e8a1e3 - Jim Mathies - Bug 834370 - Add selection test helpers to head.js. r=mbrubeck, sfoster
1964. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ffa9cf7239c - Jim Mathies - Bug 834370 - Basic selection tests. r=sfoster
1965. # [17:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b958c4c7bc43 - Jim Mathies - Bug 834370 - Text area selection tests. r=rsilveira
1966. # [17:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a922fa362d63 - Jim Mathies - Bug 834370 - Subframe content selection tests. r=rsilveira
1967. # [17:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/284d2e036973 - Jim Mathies - Bug 834370 - Add state getters to selection handler and a test helper for flushing message manager messages. r=mbrubeck
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1969. # [17:04] <bholley> bsmedberg: so
1970. # [17:05] <bholley> bsmedberg: it looks like in the regular case we end up initializing layout via the appstartupnotifier
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1973. # [17:06] <bsmedberg> bholley: huh, then something has significantly changed...
1974. # [17:06] <bholley> bsmedberg: in Observe, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/embedding/components/appstartup/src/nsAppStartupNotifier.cpp#26
1975. # [17:07] <bholley> bsmedberg: so, I could just do a do_GetService in ShowProfileManager that should cause everything to get set up
1976. # [17:07] <bsmedberg> bholley: that's true, but I'm feeling a bit surprised, so hold on a sec
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1978. # [17:08] <catlee> sfink|away: so you want coalescing limits per job type?
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1983. # [17:10] <bsmedberg> bholley: history-diving here, something changed in the chrome registry
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1986. # [17:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fe4689ed2edf - Gina Yeh - Bug 863620 - Followup of bug 848414, r=echou
1987. # [17:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/aaa82856c7a9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
1988. # [17:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2dd3e8012af4 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 863035 - WebSMS: use 'null' to reset SmsFilter::read and threadId. r=mounir,Ms2ger
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1990. # [17:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/98c192813bba - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 845707 - Only filter file path that is a '~' or starts with '~/'. r=dougt
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1992. # [17:13] <@ted> how do i turn on this new browser console thing?
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1994. # [17:14] <Pike> maybe devtools.errorconsole.enabled
1995. # [17:15] <Pike> that profile is on another machine
1996. # [17:15] <bsmedberg> bholley: ok, we used to initialize the layout module early during xpcom registration via this: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/c5827927d140/chrome/src/nsChromeRegistry.cpp#l1345
1997. # [17:15] <@ted> i thought that was the old error console?
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2000. # [17:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9d35eccad01 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4a55715677d7 (bug 856807) for intermittent Linux32 reftest-ipc timeouts.
2001. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1574fba0dfa4 - Carmen Jimenez Cabezas - Bug 815110 - Change DOMWifiManager so it returns null instead of creating the object if the caller doesn't have the correct permission. r=mrbkap
2002. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98c192813bba - Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) - Bug 845707 - Only filter file path that is a '~' or starts with '~/'. r=dougt
2003. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aaa82856c7a9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
2004. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dcc71e2b291c - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 863092 - Make mach run and mach debug run firefox -no-remote; r=gps
2005. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/702b368c9c30 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
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2014. # [17:21] <Pike> I thought that was for scratchpad? wheeee
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2021. # [17:26] <bholley> bsmedberg: so, what do you suggest as a path forward?
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2024. # [17:27] <bsmedberg> bholley: I guess the simplest thing in this case is the best, which is to have the windowwatch method here just get some service from layout
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2027. # [17:28] <bholley> bsmedberg: you mean the ShowProfileManager code?
2028. # [17:28] <bholley> bsmedberg: I'd rather not sprinkle any more pixie dust in nsWindowWatcher
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2030. # [17:29] <bsmedberg> bholley: well... windowwatcher is what's actually using contentutils...
2031. # [17:29] <bsmedberg> bholley: or we could just move contentutils into the layout module
2032. # [17:29] <bholley> bsmedberg: it already is, no?
2033. # [17:29] <bsmedberg> no
2034. # [17:29] <bholley> bsmedberg: the problem is that we're calling a static method on it
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2036. # [17:29] <bsmedberg> if it were, the layout module would be initialized
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2039. # [17:29] <bholley> bsmedberg: that assumes that nsContentUtils::Init has been called
2040. # [17:30] <bholley> bsmedberg: which gets invoked in the layout ctor
2041. # [17:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92ed1bf017f0 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 863349 - Optimize IonMonkey double truncation for large numbers on x86 and x64. r=bhackett
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2043. # [17:30] <bsmedberg> bholley: yes, the problem is that we're calling it from another module
2044. # [17:30] <bsmedberg> in this case, from the embedding module
2045. # [17:30] <bholley> bsmedberg: my issue with putting it in nsWindowWatcher is that it seems kinda wack-a-mole. We use nsContentUtils everywhere, and I'm causing us to use it in even more places
2046. # [17:30] <bsmedberg> bholley: "everywhere" outside of the layout module?
2047. # [17:30] <bholley> bsmedberg: now that that's where our cx stack handling lives, yes
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2049. # [17:31] <bsmedberg> bholley: there's cx stack handling done by code outside of content?
2050. # [17:31] <bholley> bsmedberg: in windowwatcher, for example
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2052. # [17:31] <bsmedberg> bholley: if that's the case, perhaps we ought to do it from XPCOM init directly
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2057. # [17:31] <bsmedberg> bholley: the basic problem seems to be that all the code which does cx-munging should be in the layout module
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2061. # [17:32] <bholley> bsmedberg: well, we do it in appshell, for example
2062. # [17:32] <bholley> as well as toolkit/devtools
2063. # [17:32] <bholley> and security/manager/ssl
2064. # [17:33] <bsmedberg> our module system sucks
2065. # [17:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b41dd203b511 - Yiming Yang - Bug 858563 - Add 'long_press' to Action chains, r=mdas
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2067. # [17:33] <bholley> bsmedberg: all this code used to go through the clunky XPCOM service for stack management
2068. # [17:33] <bholley> bsmedberg: but I just got rid of that in favor of RAII classes
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2070. # [17:33] <bholley> bsmedberg: as a baby step to single-cxing gecko
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2072. # [17:34] <bholley> bsmedberg: can we just force layout init in XPCOM startup?
2073. # [17:34] <bsmedberg> bholley: ok, just make sure layout is initialized from here, then http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/build/nsXPComInit.cpp#477
2074. # [17:34] <bholley> bsmedberg: ok will do, thanks
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2088. # [17:45] <RyanVM> bholley: mochitest failures on inbound
2089. # [17:45] <RyanVM> android/b2g
2090. # [17:45] <bholley> RyanVM: ugh
2091. # [17:45] * bholley looks
2092. # [17:46] <bholley> RyanVM: oh, hah
2093. # [17:46] <RyanVM> did you mean to run them there?
2094. # [17:46] <RyanVM> :)
2095. # [17:46] <froydnj> "I laugh in the face of failures"?
2096. # [17:47] <bholley> RyanVM: well, presumably showModalDialog doesn't work on mobile
2097. # [17:47] <bholley> RyanVM: which makes sense
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2099. # [17:47] <RyanVM> yes
2100. # [17:47] * bholley is looking for what we do for other tests that invoke it
2101. # [17:48] <bholley> RyanVM: but the solution here is almost certainly to just disable the test on those platforms
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2104. # [17:49] <RyanVM> i was thinking as much
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2106. # [17:50] <bholley> RyanVM: so, what do we do about tests like
2107. # [17:50] <bholley> RyanVM: content/html/document/test/test_bug391777.html
2108. # [17:50] <bholley> RyanVM: or does that whole directory just not run on mobile?
2109. # [17:51] <bholley> RyanVM: that's probably it
2110. # [17:51] <RyanVM> probably
2111. # [17:51] <bholley> RyanVM: do you want to do the honors and disable the test? You're more likely to get it right than I am :-)
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2114. # [17:53] <froydnj> maybe we need a stricter telemetry.canSend that checks for our channel names and nothing else
2115. # [17:53] <glazou> yay!
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2122. # [17:56] * @ted likes how treestatus displays escaped HTML tags
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2124. # [17:57] <@ted> you have to have an LDAP login to set the tree status, right?
2125. # [17:57] <@ted> can we not just trust the content that people set?
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2127. # [17:57] <dholbert> ted, you have to log in with persona
2128. # [17:57] <@ted> ah
2129. # [17:57] <@ted> okay
2130. # [17:57] <dholbert> ted, and it's a whitelist of persona logins
2131. # [17:57] <dholbert> who are allowed to set stuff
2132. # [17:57] <@ted> hah
2133. # [17:57] <@ted> okay, then we could probably just trust them
2134. # [17:57] <dholbert> at least, that's how it started; I assume that's still how it is
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2141. # [17:58] <kandoi> hi
2142. # [17:58] * dholbert prefers to close the tree by putting some bitcoin-mining JS in the tree status message
2143. # [17:59] <catlee> gps: http://people.mozilla.org/~catlee/steps.csv.xz
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2145. # [17:59] <catlee> gps: let me know if you need more fields added there
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2151. # [18:03] <kandoi> I want to contribute to Mozilla throught GSoC, how do I start?
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2156. # [18:05] <dholbert> kandoi, have you read https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13 ?
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2158. # [18:05] <dholbert> if not, I'd start by reading that :)
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2161. # [18:05] <kandoi> yeah, read it just now
2162. # [18:05] <kandoi> I know how to work with mailing lists, bug trackers, irc and other basic stuffs...I wanted to know what level of JS is required for Autosuggest Search Engine and the Fullscreen Mode project idea
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2169. # [18:06] <dholbert> kandoi, probably best to ask the mentors (felipe, MattN, jaws) about that
2170. # [18:07] <kandoi> ok, thansk
2171. # [18:07] <kandoi> thanks*
2172. # [18:07] <dholbert> kandoi, but I suspect you'd want to be pretty comfortable in JS
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2181. # [18:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4083aca79d32 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 862918 - Disable test on mobile. r=ted
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2196. # [18:19] <nemo> huh. Firefox freezes completely when doing downloads, latest nightly
2197. # [18:19] <nemo> is this known?
2198. # [18:19] <nemo> I've tried both saving a screenshot from an HTML5 video, and downloading a large file (.deb)
2199. # [18:19] <nemo> the latter was worst ofc, although it eventually completed
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2216. # [18:24] <dholbert> nemo, WFM
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2218. # [18:24] <dholbert> nemo, (linux)
2219. # [18:24] <nemo> huh...
2220. # [18:24] * nemo tries a clean profile
2221. # [18:24] <nemo> although this one is pretty darn clean
2222. # [18:25] <nemo> also linux
2223. # [18:25] <dholbert> nemo, ( downloading http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemrescuecd/files/sysresccd-x86/3.5.0/systemrescuecd-x86-3.5.0.iso/download )
2224. # [18:25] <nemo> oh nice. tried to fire up profile manager for 2nd profile
2225. # [18:25] <nemo> and that crashed Oo
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2227. # [18:25] <dholbert> (nemo: wfm in normal profile & clean profile)
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2229. # [18:26] <nemo> I can't start nightly at all right now :(
2230. # [18:26] * nemo tries grabbing a new nightly
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2232. # [18:26] <nemo> I was just using the updater
2233. # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e07d7cf9649e - Mark Capella - Bug 800899 - Reader Mode:Toolbar remove button is not updated, r=lucasr
2234. # [18:26] <nemo> 64 bit linux
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2251. # [18:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f96fa77e6a5 - Shane Caraveo - bug 862567 fix toolbarbutton opacity when inactive, r=mattn
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2254. # [18:36] <kandoi> if I am working on a bug, do I have to necessarily mark it as assigned?
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2256. # [18:37] <nemo> dholbert: Oo it crashes on launching profile manager even w/ a completely fresh download of firefox-23.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 from latest-trunk
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2258. # [18:37] <dholbert> kandoi, it's best, yeah, so that others know not to bother starting to work on it
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2261. # [18:38] <kandoi> but what if I am not able to fix it properly
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2263. # [18:38] <kandoi> a person seeing it then would not bother to work on it
2264. # [18:38] <dholbert> kandoi, then you could unassign it from yourself
2265. # [18:38] <kandoi> even if he can fix it
2266. # [18:38] <dholbert> kandoi, but if you're already not sure about whether you'll be able to fix it, might be best to just post a comment on the bug expressing interest
2267. # [18:39] <dholbert> kandoi, what bug is this, out of curiosity?
2268. # [18:39] <dholbert> kandoi, is it a mentored bug?
2269. # [18:39] <kandoi> no
2270. # [18:39] <gps> catlee-lunch: that's a beautiful csv! would build ID make more sense than build #?
2271. # [18:39] <kandoi> i was just asking a general question
2272. # [18:39] <dholbert> kandoi, (mentored bugs are bugs that are recommended for people starting out on mozilla code, to get familiar with stuff)
2273. # [18:39] <dholbert> ah, gotcha
2274. # [18:40] <dholbert> kandoi, if you like, you can find mentored bugs at http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/
2275. # [18:40] <nemo> dholbert: aaaand it crashes if I move ~/.mozilla/firefox somewhere safe and have no other firefox running :(
2276. # [18:40] <dholbert> nemo, bizarre :-/
2277. # [18:40] <kandoi> got it
2278. # [18:40] <kandoi> ok thanks
2279. # [18:40] <dholbert> np
2280. # [18:40] <nemo> and if I move ~/.mozilla/plugins ...
2281. # [18:41] <nemo> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
2282. # [18:41] <nemo> 0x00007ffff39b012b in nsContentUtils::GetCurrentJSContext() () from /home/nemo/firefox.nightly/libxul.so
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2284. # [18:41] <nemo> dholbert: http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt
2285. # [18:41] <dholbert> nemo, attach w/ gdb and see what's going on?
2286. # [18:42] <dholbert> nemo, oh, but this is a nightly build
2287. # [18:42] <nemo> dholbert: where do you think that backtrace came from :-p
2288. # [18:42] <dholbert> heh :)
2289. # [18:42] <dholbert> I dunno
2290. # [18:42] <nemo> including the bit that says:
2291. # [18:42] <nemo> (gdb) bt
2292. # [18:42] <dholbert> ah, there's the (gdb)
2293. # [18:42] <dholbert> yeah :)
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2295. # [18:42] <dholbert> nemo, mozregression time?
2296. # [18:42] <nemo> dholbert: well. will be a short window
2297. # [18:43] <nemo> since it was working really really recently
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2306. # [18:46] <catlee> gps: sure, I can do that
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2312. # [18:47] <gps> catlee: any chance you could publish those csv's alongside http://builddata.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildjson/?
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2316. # [18:48] <gps> catlee: alternatively you could publish a separate csv file next to the build files themselves
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2318. # [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4440571ee8fb - Bas Schouten - Bug 805406: Reduce memory usage by removing GDI_COMPATIBLE flag. r=jrmuizel
2319. # [18:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/93099b76959f - Bas Schouten - Bug 829954: Make AlphaBoxBlur allocation fallible. r=jrmuizel
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2321. # [18:49] <catlee> gps: yeah, maybe...it takes quite a while to run
2322. # [18:50] <nemo> dholbert: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013/04/2013-04-19-03-09-57-mozilla-central/firefox-23.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
2323. # [18:50] <nemo> crashes
2324. # [18:50] <nemo> dholbert: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013/04/2013-04-18-03-10-48-mozilla-central/firefox-23.0a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
2325. # [18:50] <nemo> does not
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2328. # [18:51] <nemo> dholbert: Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-27-generic x86_64)
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2330. # [18:51] <gps> catlee: :/ a compromise would be to put these simple step names in the raw logs somewhere. currently we appear to get an more human-central string
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2333. # [18:51] <gps> the human strings contain things that vary between builder. e.g. the path to the srcdir
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2335. # [18:52] <catlee> I believe they are in the raw logs
2336. # [18:52] <nemo> dholbert: since I can't even launch it, I can't get the about:buildconfig :-p
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2340. # [18:52] <catlee> when will firefox be able to load build logs without choking?
2341. # [18:52] <nemo> dholbert: should I be mentioning this to #jsapi maybe ?
2342. # [18:52] <kandoi> how do I clone firefox code on my machine?
2343. # [18:53] <Ms2ger> catlee, clearly you should profile it :)
2344. # [18:53] <gps> catlee: good question. the general question is "why does Firefox load text heavy pages slowly?"
2345. # [18:53] <gps> I /think/ I had tracked down that bug at some point because it annoys me too
2346. # [18:54] <@bz> hrm
2347. # [18:54] <@bz> now I have to file webkit bugs in two places? :
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2351. # [18:54] <mbrubeck> catlee, Ms2ger: The relevant bugs have discouraging-looking numbers like 210943, 319143, 367116...
2352. # [18:54] <mbrubeck> one of them has a profile that bz generated in 2007.
2353. # [18:55] <jesup> gps: got an example page?
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2355. # [18:55] <catlee> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22019202&tree=Mozilla-Central&full=1
2356. # [18:55] <jesup> or mbrubeck
2357. # [18:55] <jesup> thanks
2358. # [18:56] <Ms2ger> mbrubeck, I guess the question is whether we still hit the same bottlenecks as in 2007; we probably do, but it could be good to know
2359. # [18:56] <gps> catlee: take https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=21998888&tree=Mozilla-Central&full=1 for example. "Started set props: basedir" and "Started set props: hashType". from the csv, I see "set_basedir" and "set_hashType." But those latter strings don't appear in the raw logs or anywhere else AFAIK
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2361. # [18:56] <gps> jesup: see any TBPL log :)
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2364. # [18:56] <catlee> gps: ah, I see
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2366. # [18:57] <mbrubeck> I'd be fine with slow loading as long as we could fix the responsiveness (e.g. make whatever is happening interruptible so it doesn't lock up the UI for 30 seconds)
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2369. # [18:57] <catlee> mbrubeck: yeah, that's the worst
2370. # [18:57] <gps> catlee: I much prefer the machine-readable version
2371. # [18:57] <nemo> dholbert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863646
2372. # [18:57] <nemo> is linked from the crash reports already
2373. # [18:57] <catlee> I keep forgetting to not open a bunch of build logs in tabs
2374. # [18:57] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-85fa9c36-2af4-4a07-aa23-14a332130419
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2376. # [18:58] <nemo> dholbert: so. no idea if it is related to the save issue. guess I'll wait for it to be fixed, then update to latest nightly at that point, and see if it is still happening :)
2377. # [18:58] <jlebar|away> gps: ping?
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2382. # [19:00] <gps> jlebar|away: pong
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2384. # [19:01] <jlebar|away> gps: on b2g18. http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320538
2385. # [19:01] <jlebar|away> gps: ??
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2387. # [19:01] <jlebar|away> gps: And if I don't use mach, I die later with "cannot import module buildconfig"
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2389. # [19:02] <gps> jlebar|away: well, mach is failing before it gets to that other error
2390. # [19:02] <jlebar|away> I understand.
2391. # [19:02] <jlebar|away> I'm just saying that something seems wrong with python
2392. # [19:02] <jesup> gps/catlee/dbaron/bz/mbrubeck: ok, jprof (as always) shows Reflow primarily. 14% BreakAndMeasureText() (8% of that is CalcTabWidths()!!); 16% in gfxPangoFontGroup::FindFontForChar() (mostly in HasChar()), 50% in ShapeText() (40% of that is _hb_ot_shape(); lots of smaller ones inside that)
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2394. # [19:03] <gps> jlebar|away: getLogger() is a module-level symbol on the logging module. so that error should never happen
2395. # [19:03] <jlebar|away> gps: agreed.
2396. # [19:03] <jesup> Got a bug you want it on, or a new one? Gotta be plenty in there already.... :-/
2397. # [19:03] <jlebar|away> gps: unless I'm using an ancient python version
2398. # [19:03] <@dbaron> jesup, profiling a tinderbox log?
2399. # [19:03] <gps> jlebar|away: clobber?
2400. # [19:03] <dholbert> nemo, good luck :)
2401. # [19:03] <jesup> probably a bunch I filed/commented on
2402. # [19:03] <jlebar|away> gps: already done
2403. # [19:03] <jesup> dbaron: yes
2404. # [19:03] <jesup> I know, evil edge case ;-)
2405. # [19:03] <gps> jlebar|away: is this on your local machine or an official builder?
2406. # [19:03] <jlebar|away> gps: local mac
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2408. # [19:03] <mbrubeck> jesup: : There's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367116
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2411. # [19:04] <gps> jlebar|away: my guess is your python environment is messed up somehow. maybe you are already in a virtualenv when you run configure?
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2413. # [19:04] <jlebar|away> gps: so, open a new terminal...
2414. # [19:04] <gps> jlebar|away: run objdir/_virtualenv/bin/python --version
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2416. # [19:04] <qDot> sewardj: ping
2417. # [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5d8f52f4457 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 857399 - remove assertion from cocoa FireAndWaitForTracerEvent. r=smichaud
2418. # [19:05] <gps> jlebar|away: yeah, open a new terminal, delete objdir/_virtualenv and run configure
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2421. # [19:05] <gps> if that doesn't fix it either the tree or your system python is borked
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2424. # [19:05] <gps> or something in your shell init is borking python
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2429. # [19:07] <Cork> anyone know what feature andreasgal is talking about here https://github.com/andreasgal/dom.js/issues/3 ? (bug number)
2430. # [19:07] <jlebar|away> gps: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320551
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2433. # [19:07] <gps> ooo - a segmentation fault when launching m-c built from tip
2434. # [19:07] <Ms2ger> gps, clobber ;)
2435. # [19:08] <gps> Ms2ger: it was a clobber build!
2436. # [19:08] <nemo> gps: segfault running profile manager? :)
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2438. # [19:08] <mbrubeck> jesup: Or you could file a new bug blocking https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384260
2439. # [19:08] <jlebar|away> oh
2440. # [19:08] <jlebar|away> wrong objdir
2441. # [19:08] <jlebar|away> shit
2442. # [19:08] <Ms2ger> gps, eh, clobber again? :)
2443. # [19:08] <gps> nemo: I do always run the profile manager
2444. # [19:08] <nemo> gps: ok. so maybe same issue as me
2445. # [19:08] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863646
2446. # [19:09] <nemo> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-85fa9c36-2af4-4a07-aa23-14a332130419
2447. # [19:09] <jlebar|away> gps: well, in any case, I don't even get to the point where mach creates the objdir.
2448. # [19:09] <nemo> gps: that popped up just today
2449. # [19:09] <jlebar|away> gps: :(
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2451. # [19:09] <gps> that's going to make a lot of developers... not happy
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2457. # [19:10] <nemo> Ms2ger: heh. you can just fall back a day :)
2458. # [19:10] <jesup> gps/dbaron/bz/mbrubeck: added the profile there. Definitely some sore thumbs there, though probably not easy to do anything about.
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2461. # [19:11] <nemo> gps: anyway, -p dbg seems to work ok
2462. # [19:11] <nemo> so annoying, but not the end of the world
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2465. # [19:11] <mbrubeck> jesup, bz: As I said before, the overal time isn't an issue so much as the fact that it totally locks up the UI... is there anything there that could be made interruptible, or broken up into smaller chunks?
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2467. # [19:13] <mbrubeck> That may be a better question for dbaron or roc... but dbaron got away
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2473. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> He's back ;)
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2478. # [19:15] <jlebar|away> gps: try:
2479. # [19:15] <jlebar|away> import mach.main
2480. # [19:15] <jlebar|away> except ImportError:
2481. # [19:15] <jlebar|away> sys.path[0:0] = [os.path.join(our_dir, path) for path in SEARCH_PATHS]
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2484. # [19:15] <jlebar|away> gps: That looks like the problem.
2485. # [19:16] <jlebar|away> gps: what about the rest of my sys.path??
2486. # [19:16] <gps> jlebar|away: sys.path[0:0] inserts a list of things at index 0. it preserves all remaining items
2487. # [19:16] <jlebar|away> Oh, that's different from sys.path[:]
2488. # [19:16] <mbrubeck> dbaron: while you were gone, jesup posted an updated tinderbox log profile to bug 367116, and I was commenting that total time isn't an issue so much as the way it locks up the UI... is there anything there that could be made interruptible, or broken up into smaller chunks?
2489. # [19:17] <gps> []
2490. # [19:17] <gps> >>> l = ['a', 'b', 'c']
2491. # [19:17] <gps> >>> l[0:0] = ['x', 'y']
2492. # [19:17] <gps> >>> l
2493. # [19:17] <jlebar|away> That has to be the problem, though.
2494. # [19:17] <gps> ['x', 'y', 'a', 'b', 'c']
2495. # [19:17] <@dbaron> mbrubeck, I suspect bz knows the current interruptable reflow rules off the top of his head
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2499. # [19:17] <jesup> mbrubeck: breaking up reflow of a single text block like this probably requires a bunch of rework...
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2501. # [19:18] <jesup> The time is an issue too; and points to hotspots in generally laying out text
2502. # [19:18] <mbrubeck> :(
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2504. # [19:18] <gps> so we could work around the issue by inserting periodic <div>, <p>, etc in the log output?
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2509. # [19:19] <gps> jlebar|away: perhaps you should avoid mach on b2g18?
2510. # [19:20] <jlebar|away> gps: I'm thinking that the "no module named buildconfig" is related to this mach error
2511. # [19:20] <jesup> gps: possibly, yes.
2512. # [19:20] <gps> jlebar|away: probably. buildconfig is a core build system module. if it can't find it, the python env is really messed up
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2514. # [19:21] <gps> jlebar|away: run objdir/_virtualenv/bin/python
2515. # [19:21] <gps> import sys; print(sys.path)
2516. # [19:21] <jlebar|away> gps: I don't even have an objdir yet
2517. # [19:21] <jlebar|away> I mean, I guess I could make it.
2518. # [19:21] <jlebar|away> with make -f client.mk
2519. # [19:21] <jesup> gps: you can test trivially: save a log page, go into emacs and use a macro to insert a </div><div> or whatever every 1000 lines or some such. Then load it
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2521. # [19:21] <gps> |mach build| == |make -f client.mk build| + warning parsing
2522. # [19:22] <jlebar|away> okay, we're getting somewhere...
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2526. # [19:23] <gps> catlee: do you have a bug on file to publish the build step timings? if not, I'd love to have it tracked officiall
2527. # [19:23] <catlee> gps: no
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2530. # [19:23] <gps> catlee: I'll file it. assume it's low priority
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2534. # [19:27] <jlebar|away> gps: python/mozbuild/mozbuild/logger.py
2535. # [19:27] <jlebar|away> gps: That is a very bad name for a module.
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2537. # [19:28] <jlebar|away> gps: it's overriding the default logger module
2538. # [19:28] <gps> jlebar|away: the fully-qualified name is mozbuild.logger, not logger
2539. # [19:28] * RyanVM|afk won't hold my breath about tbpl logs not locking up the browser any time soon
2540. # [19:28] <jlebar|away> gps: well, note the sys.path change.
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2542. # [19:29] <jlebar|away> gps: that's what's getting imported when I |import logger|; I can tell by dir(logger)
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2544. # [19:29] <gps> jlebar|away: python/mozbuild/mozbuild should *never* be on sys.path. python/mozbuild should
2545. # [19:29] <jlebar|away> gps: well.
2546. # [19:29] <jhammel> RyanVM: good, i don't think our insurance covers gambling-related hypoxia
2547. # [19:29] <RyanVM> heh
2548. # [19:29] <gps> jlebar|away: what is your raw sys.path?
2549. # [19:30] <jlebar|away> gps: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320609
2550. # [19:30] <jlebar|away> gps: this is after we modify it
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2553. # [19:31] <gps> jlebar|away: that looks sane
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2555. # [19:31] <jlebar|away> wtf is going on here?
2556. # [19:32] <gps> jlebar|away: you are invoking mach with ./mach, right?
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2558. # [19:32] <jlebar|away> gps: yes, from the top of the srcdir
2559. # [19:32] <jlebar|away> gps: this is dir(logging)
2560. # [19:32] <jlebar|away> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320617
2561. # [19:32] <jlebar|away> sorted(dir(logging))
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2563. # [19:33] <gps> jlebar|away: in python/mach/mach/main.py, change line 8 to: from __future__ import absolute_imports, unicode_literals
2564. # [19:33] <jlebar|away> gps: bingo
2565. # [19:33] <gps> sorry, |absolute_import| not |absolute_imports|
2566. # [19:33] <jlebar|away> I read it right, somehow. :)
2567. # [19:33] <jlebar|away> gps: that's it, that makes mach work.
2568. # [19:34] <jlebar|away> gps: what's that all about?
2569. # [19:34] * jlebar|away reads
2570. # [19:34] <catlee> magic
2571. # [19:34] <gps> jlebar|away: |import foo| in Python < 3 defaults to looking under the current package for |foo|. so if you are in |mach.main| and |import logging| it will first try to import |mach.logging|
2572. # [19:34] <jhammel> surprised that hasn't hit us before
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2574. # [19:35] <mbrubeck> I wonder what this is about... http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320620
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2576. # [19:35] <gps> the Python people realized how silly this was because it was easy to mask top-level packages, so they changed the default behavior so all module names are absolute
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2579. # [19:35] <gps> but that's only in Python 3. you need the __future__ line to change the behavior in Python 2
2580. # [19:35] <catlee> from __future__ import braces
2581. # [19:35] <catlee> import this
2582. # [19:35] <jlebar|away> gps: so...is the build broken for everyone?
2583. # [19:36] <gps> jlebar|away: mach might be broken on b2g18
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2585. # [19:36] <gps> but not the build system proper
2586. # [19:36] <jlebar|away> gps: okay. I'll see if I can get past the buildconfig issue.
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2588. # [19:36] <jlebar|away> gps: thanks.
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2593. # [19:38] <jhammel> catlee++
2594. # [19:38] <jesup> gps: none of those simple ideas work; ask roc/bz/dbaron
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2596. # [19:39] <gps> jesup: is there a bug on "large text blocks is teh suck"?
2597. # [19:39] <jesup> gps: many
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2599. # [19:39] <jesup> I know I filed a bunch 11-12 years ago
2600. # [19:39] <jesup> They still suck :-)
2601. # [19:39] <@ted> heh
2602. # [19:40] <gps> well, I'll just let the layout people work their voodoo. I'm sure there's a reason it hasn't been fixed in 10+ years :)
2603. # [19:40] <froydnj> look at sheriff-want bugs, one of the 600k-ish bugs is "rendering large walls of text sucks"
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2605. # [19:40] <jesup> gps: e10s would have helped (with UI resp)
2606. # [19:40] <catlee> works well in chrome!
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2609. # [19:41] <jesup> catlee: UI/content separation
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2616. # [19:41] <jesup> Probably works better in Android/FFOS too
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2619. # [19:41] <gps> we should just parse all the logs into their useful data and along the way practically elminate the need to look at the raw output
2620. # [19:41] <gps> save us, treeherder
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2633. # [19:42] <jlebar|away> gps: unfortunately it doesn't fix the buildconfig thing. :(
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2636. # [19:43] <jlebar|away> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320648
2637. # [19:43] <jlebar|away> This stack doesn't even make sense
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2639. # [19:43] <gps> jlebar|away: wat
2640. # [19:43] * gps gives up
2641. # [19:44] <jlebar|away> :(
2642. # [19:44] <jlebar|away> ted: halp?
2643. # [19:44] <gps> surely b2g18 can't be busted
2644. # [19:44] <jlebar|away> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2320648
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2647. # [19:44] * jlebar|away is here in Madrid with about five managers standing over his shoulder watching him try to build
2648. # [19:45] <@ted> ugh, pythonpath
2649. # [19:45] <jhammel> ted: my first reaction exactly
2650. # [19:45] * Ms2ger waves at the managers
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2653. # [19:45] <jlebar|away> I don't even understand where this putative import statement is coming from
2654. # [19:46] <catlee> it's not in the function?
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2656. # [19:46] <jhammel> jlebar|away: that's because ugh pythonpath
2657. # [19:47] <@ted> jlebar|away: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/expandlibs_config.py#5
2658. # [19:47] <@ted> via
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2660. # [19:47] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/expandlibs.py#31
2661. # [19:47] <@ted> your stack is just goofed up somehow
2662. # [19:47] <jhammel> when you're "manually" importing things, you often get a traceback that doesn't actually tell you where the import error is really coming from
2663. # [19:47] <@ted> probably because pythonpath
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2665. # [19:47] <jhammel> and what ted said
2666. # [19:47] <@ted> the line numbers look right htough
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2669. # [19:48] <@ted> jlebar|away: i'm missing some context here
2670. # [19:49] <jlebar|away> ted: I'm just trying to build b2g18
2671. # [19:49] <jlebar|away> ted: this happened once before, and magically went away.https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=834867
2672. # [19:49] <jlebar|away> but apparently nobody else has seen this
2673. # [19:49] <@ted> ugh
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2677. # [19:51] <@ted> jlebar|away: oh so
2678. # [19:51] <@ted> uh
2679. # [19:51] <@ted> do you have a stray expandlibs_exec.pyc in there
2680. # [19:51] <@ted> or something
2681. # [19:51] <jlebar|away> probably
2682. # [19:51] <@ted> because buildconfig doesn't exist on b2g18
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2685. # [19:51] <@ted> rather, expandlibs_config.py doesn't
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2687. # [19:51] <@ted> i bet you built a newer tree there at some point and wound up with a stray pyc
2688. # [19:52] <@ted> and it's screwing you now
2689. # [19:52] <jlebar|away> git clean -xdff
2690. # [19:52] <jlebar|away> ted: that is probably it.
2691. # [19:52] <jlebar|away> ted: thank you.
2692. # [19:52] <@ted> np
2693. # [19:52] <@ted> good luck
2694. # [19:52] <jlebar|away> ted: thanks.
2695. # [19:53] <jhammel> gps, ted : what do you think of wiping .pycs on e.g. build?
2696. # [19:53] <@ted> also you should go get dinner or something
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2698. # [19:53] <jlebar|away> ted: Nothing opens here until 8:30
2699. # [19:53] <gps> jhammel: that would require walking the srcdir
2700. # [19:53] <gps> that's expensive
2701. # [19:53] <jhammel> indeed
2702. # [19:53] <jhammel> well, just an idea
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2704. # [19:53] <gps> I would much prefer someone hack together a custom importer
2705. # [19:54] <jhammel> i would actually disable their creation which would be even more expensive
2706. # [19:54] <jhammel> well, differntly expensiv
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2708. # [19:56] <VirajSinha> felipe, hey are you free?
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2712. # [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e88b1aab80c3 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 863116 - MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE should not inline in debug builds (r=Waldo)
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2716. # [19:58] <catlee> there's an env variable you can set ti disable creation of the pyc files
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2720. # [19:59] <jhammel> catlee: yes, but expensive so no
2721. # [19:59] <jhammel> or so i was told when i suggested it
2722. # [20:00] <catlee> expensive why?
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2724. # [20:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03ce67f5ebf1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
2725. # [20:00] <jhammel> catlee: because then you're compiling to byte code on each invokation vs doing once and caching in a .pyc
2726. # [20:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbfe9618bc2b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge inbound to m-c.
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2728. # [20:00] <gps> catlee: reparsing all the .py files adds up. especially considering some python is invoked thousands of times during a build
2729. # [20:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83b89a9909d8 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge fx-team to m-c.
2730. # [20:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e16b3af2489 - Panos Astithas - Bug 863600 - Intermittent browser_toolbox_options.js; r=me
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2735. # [20:01] <catlee> gps: ah, I assumed there was one big python process to rule them all
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2739. # [20:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70a6a8693047 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 863788 - move checking for haveDumpedScreen into dumpScreen; r=jmaher
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2742. # [20:05] <jwir3> Anyone else experiencing a really long wait time for pushing patches to try?
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2750. # [20:11] <@ehsan> smaug: fwiw, web idl only events work fine
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2752. # [20:11] <@ehsan> I have one in bug 834513
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2754. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> ehsan, \o/
2755. # [20:12] <@ehsan> unfortunately I don't have enough time to extend the event generator to support them at the moment :(
2756. # [20:12] <triump> is someone here who can mentor in GSOC 2013
2757. # [20:12] <Optimizer> RyanVM++ for merging sorcery in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/pushloghtml?startID=1530&endID=1531
2758. # [20:12] <RyanVM> :)
2759. # [20:13] <Optimizer> no really, that has more than 10 merges
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2763. # [20:15] <@smaug> ehsan: I'll write webidl only event codegen at some point
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2765. # [20:16] <@ehsan> smaug: cool, I'll port AudioProcessingEvent once you do
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2767. # [20:16] <@ehsan> although we have some fancy lazy init logic in there
2768. # [20:16] <@ehsan> so perhaos it can't be ported after all :)
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2770. # [20:17] <Archaeopteryx> triump: the GSoC page usually has the mentors listed
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2772. # [20:17] <@smaug> ehsan: well, if you land your patch first, I can then convert that event to be implemented using the new codegen
2773. # [20:17] <@ehsan> ok
2774. # [20:18] <@smaug> even the idl+webidl codegen hasn't landed yet, since ctors are too broken
2775. # [20:18] <@smaug> in paris bindings
2776. # [20:19] <@ehsan> heh
2777. # [20:19] <@ehsan> I thought that has landed...
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2779. # [20:20] <@smaug> (but I'm sure that gets fixed soon)
2780. # [20:20] <@bz> I'm working on it today
2781. # [20:20] <@bz> it's ... annoying
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2783. # [20:21] <@smaug> I can imagine
2784. # [20:21] <@ehsan> who reviews changes to ipc/?
2785. # [20:21] <@smaug> bent perhaps
2786. # [20:21] <jlebar|away> ehsan: me or bent
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2788. # [20:21] <@ehsan> jlebar|away: ok, I'll ask you :)
2789. # [20:21] <Callek> I can r- anything for you
2790. # [20:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb2202cf3489 - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 863377 - Marionette socket exceptions prevented from propagating, r=jgriffin
2791. # [20:21] <jlebar|away> ehsan: I'll kick it over to him if it's too hard for me
2792. # [20:22] <@bz> smaug: it's not too bad if I punt on the hard cases, see my comments in #content
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2794. # [20:22] <@ehsan> ok
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2804. # [20:25] <@ehsan> RyanVM: so, should we readd birch to the available twigs?
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2806. # [20:26] <@ehsan> also the other branch, was is cypress?
2807. # [20:26] <catlee> I think we want to keep them for now
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2809. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> ehsan, work week ends Sunday morning ;)
2810. # [20:26] <@ehsan> RyanVM said he just did the final merge from that branch
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2812. # [20:26] <@ehsan> catlee: even if there is not going to be future merges?'
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2814. # [20:27] <@ehsan> that will mislead people...
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2818. # [20:28] <@ehsan> catlee: btw, who's working on autoland?
2819. # [20:28] <catlee> RyanVM: oh, I thought you were the one who wanted to keep them open next week?
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2821. # [20:29] <RyanVM> catlee: AFAIK, no decisions have been made on that topic
2822. # [20:29] <RyanVM> hell, I don't think anyone on the b2g team has asked for it to remain open
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2824. # [20:29] <catlee> ok, so did you mean in your email you weren't going to be doing any more?
2825. # [20:29] <@ehsan> RyanVM: out of curiosity, how popular was birch this week?
2826. # [20:29] <RyanVM> and I only committed to doing merges through today
2827. # [20:29] <RyanVM> ehsan: 5-10 pushes a day at the most
2828. # [20:30] <RyanVM> i'm heading out for the weekend in ~30min
2829. # [20:30] <@ehsan> I see
2830. # [20:30] <@ehsan> thanks
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2832. # [20:30] <RyanVM> I know some b2g devs expressed interest in continuing to use birch going forward, but it was never formally requested
2833. # [20:30] <RyanVM> and cypress wasn't used at all
2834. # [20:30] <catlee> ehsan: let's leave it for now until Monday?
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2836. # [20:31] <RyanVM> i'm happy to merge anything that lands this weekend over on Monday
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2838. # [20:31] <@ehsan> catlee: fine by me
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2851. # [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb982207e926 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 863559 - Do not leak the mach port in PlatformThread::CurrentId; r=jlebar
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2854. # [20:40] <reed> is it know that today's nightly is instant-crash?
2855. # [20:40] <reed> at least on Linux
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2857. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> reed, using profile manager?
2858. # [20:41] <reed> Ms2ger: yes
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2860. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> I've seen it mentioned here
2861. # [20:41] <Mook_as> reed: bug 863646 ?
2862. # [20:41] <reed> indeed
2863. # [20:41] <spohl> I've been having trouble pushing to try this morning, and I'm a bit at a loss where to start looking for the solution
2864. # [20:42] <reed> ok, who do I need to backout?
2865. # [20:42] <reed> :p
2866. # [20:42] <spohl> I keep getting: remote: abort: Operation not permitted: /repo/hg/mozilla/try/.hg/journal.bookmarks
2867. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> spohl, that would be #it
2868. # [20:42] <spohl> followed by: abort: unexpected response: empty string
2869. # [20:42] <spohl> great, thanks!
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2871. # [20:42] <spohl> Ms2ger ^^
2872. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> Np
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2878. # [20:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ddf65186f94 - Chris Peterson - Bug 863490 - Part 1: Get the correct JNIEnv for the worker thread that is destroying the Flash plugin. r=blassey
2879. # [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0908e4d4892f - Chris Peterson - Bug 849589 - Add more descriptive error messages to NativeZip exceptions. r=glandium
2880. # [20:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/936accf907a2 - Chris Peterson - Bug 863490 - Part 2: Assert GetJNIEnv() is called on the correct thread. r=blassey
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2884. # [20:49] <bholley> reed: a fix or a backout will arrive before the next nightly
2885. # [20:50] <reed> bholley: can you respin nightlies once you get a fix in today?
2886. # [20:50] <reed> shouldn't wait until tomorrow
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2888. # [20:50] <bholley> reed: I'll leave that up to the sheriffs
2889. # [20:51] <bholley> RyanVM ^
2890. # [20:51] <RyanVM> for what?
2891. # [20:51] <bsmedberg> Windows NT 5.1.2600 is what?
2892. # [20:51] <RyanVM> xp
2893. # [20:51] <bholley> RyanVM: bug 863646
2894. # [20:52] <RyanVM> bholley: reed: sorry, can't help then. I'm about to head out for the rest of the day
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2897. # [20:52] <Gijs> bsmedberg: ping
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2899. # [20:52] <bholley> RyanVM: k
2900. # [20:52] <bsmedberg> Gijs: pong
2901. # [20:52] <RyanVM> bholley: you can spin nightlies through self-serv
2902. # [20:52] <RyanVM> e
2903. # [20:53] <bholley> RyanVM: that would mean I should land it directly to central, presumably
2904. # [20:53] <RyanVM> presumably
2905. # [20:53] <RyanVM> should probably confirm that it's green before you trigger the respin too :)
2906. # [20:53] <catlee> mbrubeck: I like how we got a notification for talos improvement for just your patch to backout the offender
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2908. # [20:53] <RyanVM> but yeah, click the self-serve link on tbpl for that push
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2910. # [20:53] <mbrubeck> yes! it is working!
2911. # [20:53] <RyanVM> at the bottom is a box for triggering new nightlies
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2915. # [20:57] <bholley> RyanVM: awesome, thanks
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2919. # [20:58] <RyanVM> Bas: reftest failures
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2921. # [20:59] <Gijs> bsmedberg: sooo, does it make sense to talk over bug 863570?
2922. # [20:59] <bsmedberg> Gijs: I'm not sure I have time
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2924. # [21:00] <Gijs> bsmedberg: OK. Shall I just wait for a bug comment? :)
2925. # [21:00] * Gijs does sort of want to get this reset stuff in for the 23 cycle
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2928. # [21:00] <bsmedberg> Gijs: yes. Did you set NEEDINFO?
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2930. # [21:00] <Gijs> No, but I can! :)
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2952. # [21:09] <Optimizer> is Ctrl+Shift+O used in some OS ?
2953. # [21:09] <Optimizer> (in Firefox)
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2961. # [21:14] <rillian> Optimizer: opens the bookmark library on linux
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2965. # [21:15] <bsmedberg> bz: what's the right component/person for bug 863773?
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2968. # [21:16] <jack> How does Firefox on linux get fonts through to Skia via Azure? Azure seems only to pass the name and style, but that seems pretty fragile. Right now Servo is shaping with one font, and a different font gets picked by skia for drawing.
2969. # [21:17] <bholley> bsmedberg: ping
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2971. # [21:17] <Optimizer> rillian: thanks , are you using latest nightly ?
2972. # [21:17] <bsmedberg> bholley: pong
2973. # [21:17] <bholley> bsmedberg: so, I just commented in the bug
2974. # [21:18] <bholley> bsmedberg: this patch seems to be causing a shutdown assertion
2975. # [21:18] <bholley> bsmedberg: in nspr
2976. # [21:18] <bsmedberg> bholley: haha, which bug?
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2978. # [21:18] <bholley> bsmedberg: bug 863646
2979. # [21:18] <rillian> Optimizer: that's Nightly 2013-04-18
2980. # [21:18] <rillian> still works in latest nightly :)
2981. # [21:19] <Optimizer> did you update to 19 april ?
2982. # [21:19] <rillian> yes
2983. # [21:19] <Optimizer> ok so one thing I need to test
2984. # [21:19] <Optimizer> Open web console, and then hit the shortcut
2985. # [21:19] <@gavin> bsmedberg: re: 863773, I don't really understand your question. we have that prefpane because people want to be able to customize how given file types are handled.
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2987. # [21:20] <bsmedberg> gavin: that seems stupid. Why can't we just let them do that in their OS?
2988. # [21:20] <bsmedberg> Isn't that what an OS is for?
2989. # [21:20] <rillian> Optimizer: that opens a DevTools config panel
2990. # [21:20] <Optimizer> and not the Library, right ?
2991. # [21:20] <rillian> Optimizer: right
2992. # [21:20] <Optimizer> ok cool, thanks :)
2993. # [21:20] <bsmedberg> bholley: got a stack for the assertion?
2994. # [21:20] <@gavin> bsmedberg: the other options that UI allows you to chose are "always ask" and "Save file"
2995. # [21:21] <bholley> bsmedberg: a partial one. It's on the other thread. sec
2996. # [21:21] <@gavin> bsmedberg: so it's controlling _whether_ firefox hands off to the OS default, in addition to some other options
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2998. # [21:21] <bsmedberg> gavin: so user don't have control over *which* app gets it if we hand it off to the OS?
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3000. # [21:22] <bholley> bsmedberg: posted
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3003. # [21:22] <@gavin> bsmedberg: no, they do. you can choose a specific app manually.
3004. # [21:22] <bsmedberg> gavin: so is this bug just INVALID?
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3006. # [21:23] <bsmedberg> bholley: ok, I think I see
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3008. # [21:23] <bsmedberg> bholley: please try putting the single line with the new nsCOMPtr in its own block?
3009. # [21:23] <bsmedberg> oh, but
3010. # [21:23] <bsmedberg> that's in NS_InitXPCOM2
3011. # [21:23] <bsmedberg> it shouldn't matter
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3014. # [21:24] <bholley> bsmedberg: hm?
3015. # [21:25] <@gavin> bsmedberg: well I think maybe we also show installed plugins, and he's suggesting that the wrong plugin is being shown?
3016. # [21:25] <@gavin> bsmedberg: so it sounds valid, but a UI issue if anything
3017. # [21:25] <bsmedberg> blech
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3019. # [21:25] <bsmedberg> can we just remove plugins from that list, then?
3020. # [21:26] <@gavin> I don't think so
3021. # [21:26] <@gavin> that UI is how you decide how pdfs should be viewed (pdf.js or something else)
3022. # [21:27] <bsmedberg> who's in charge of the code/configuration of wikimo?
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3025. # [21:28] <bholley> bsmedberg: hm, actually
3026. # [21:28] <bholley> bsmedberg: I think it might just be the fact that I was sharing a profile between different builds
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3028. # [21:28] <bsmedberg> bholley: that might do it ;-)
3029. # [21:28] <bsmedberg> bholley: but what was the stack of the main thread at the time of that assert?
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3031. # [21:29] <bholley> bsmedberg: nothing interesting IIRC
3032. # [21:29] <bsmedberg> well, uh... was it before during or after XPCOM shutdown?
3033. # [21:29] <bholley> bsmedberg: lemme reproduce
3034. # [21:29] * bholley hates waiting for the osx crash reporter
3035. # [21:30] <bholley> bsmedberg: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2320873
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3037. # [21:30] <bsmedberg> bholley: yeah so something is wrong ;-)
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3039. # [21:30] <bholley> bsmedberg: in what sense?
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3041. # [21:31] <bholley> bsmedberg: the problem goes away when I do this with a fresh profile
3042. # [21:31] <bsmedberg> bholley: shouldn't the jsgc thread be dead by that point?
3043. # [21:31] <bsmedberg> the normal XPCOM rule is that you have to join all your threads at shutdown
3044. # [21:31] <bsmedberg> now I know this isn't an XPCOM thread, but I'm quite surprised that it's still running this late
3045. # [21:32] <bholley> bsmedberg: more to the point - the problem reproduces on _either_ my patched build or my unpatched build, as long as the _other_ one was the most recent to use the shared profile
3046. # [21:32] <bholley> bsmedberg: so I think this is just user error
3047. # [21:32] <bsmedberg> bholley: I... don't think this is "user error"
3048. # [21:32] <bsmedberg> it's a programming error, but may have pre-existed
3049. # [21:32] <bholley> bsmedberg: fair enough
3050. # [21:32] <bsmedberg> I'll bet that xpconnect is doing some cleanup at profile-before-change
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3052. # [21:33] <bsmedberg> and forgetting that in this situation, profile-before-change is never called
3053. # [21:34] <bsmedberg> enh, I don't see that, though
3054. # [21:34] <bholley> yeah
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3058. # [21:35] <bsmedberg> gavin: ok, so there's still some mismatch here. I don't expect users to be able to choose a plugin for a particular MIME type.
3059. # [21:35] <bsmedberg> But maybe the applications panel makes it seem like they can?
3060. # [21:36] <@gavin> bsmedberg: the panel shows only one "plugin" option, amongst other options (external app, save to disk, "ask me"), aiui
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3063. # [21:36] <bsmedberg> ok
3064. # [21:36] <@gavin> bsmedberg: that bug seems to be about it choosing the wrong one
3065. # [21:36] <@gavin> the wrong plugin option to display
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3074. # [21:41] <bsmedberg> robarnold: did you do a sufficient review of bug 836869 or does somebody else need to look at it?
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3077. # [21:43] <bholley> bsmedberg: anyway, I flagged you review on that bug. If you can r+ it I'll land it directly to m-c and then respin the nightlies
3078. # [21:44] <bsmedberg> Does anyone here have a setup that runs Firefox 32-bit nightlies?
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3083. # [21:46] <bsmedberg> gavin: where does the code for options/applications live?
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3085. # [21:48] <bsmedberg> bholley: it's late enough in the day that I'm not sure it's worth spinning new nightlies
3086. # [21:48] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/preferences/applications.xul
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3089. # [21:48] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: and the .js file, and the in-content versions
3090. # [21:48] <bsmedberg> in-content?
3091. # [21:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: reed wanted them, but I'm indifferent
3092. # [21:48] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/preferences/in-content
3093. # [21:48] <@gavin> bsmedberg: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/preferences/applications.js
3094. # [21:48] <@ehsan> it's a mess :)
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3096. # [21:48] <bsmedberg> oh, I see
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3098. # [21:49] <bsmedberg> there's a new pref system, but we're not using it yet, IIRC?
3099. # [21:49] <@gavin> right
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3103. # [21:49] <@gavin> in-content is mostly just a copy at this point
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3109. # [21:49] <@ehsan> right
3110. # [21:49] <@ehsan> but not quite
3111. # [21:49] <@ehsan> which is where the problem is ;)
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3115. # [21:50] <mconnor> ehsan: I wish that was the only problem :)
3116. # [21:50] <@ehsan> mconnor: there's more?!
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3118. # [21:50] <joe> jack: you will want to ask gw280 that question in #gfx
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3120. # [21:51] <gw280> wut
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3122. # [21:52] <joe> [3:16 PM] <jack> How does Firefox on linux get fonts through to Skia via Azure? Azure seems only to pass the name and style, but that seems pretty fragile. Right now Servo is shaping with one font, and a different font gets picked by skia for drawing.
3123. # [21:52] <reed> bsmedberg: for start-up bug, it's nice to get nightlies out asap... it'll be over 12 hours until the next one
3124. # [21:53] <mconnor> ehsan: my main problem is that it's a paused migration, and we're not shipping it or backing it out, and in the meantime we get to make changes twice
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3126. # [21:54] <@ehsan> yeah... if it was my call, I'd just remove it right now :/
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3137. # [22:00] <froydnj> dholbert: I'm not sure if you or ehsan is a better candidate for looking at the first cut patch for bug 813742
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3139. # [22:00] * froydnj sees that a few more reftests probably need the needs-focus treatment
3140. # [22:01] <dholbert> froydnj, the patch that's currently attached there, you mean?
3141. # [22:01] <@ehsan> oh, so I can pretend that I never saw this ping now that dholbert answered?
3142. # [22:01] <@ehsan> yikes!
3143. # [22:01] <dholbert> d'oh!
3144. # [22:01] * @ehsan was waiting for a minute before saying anything :D
3145. # [22:02] <dholbert> froydnj, I'll take a look, but you should probably have dbaron look at it too. He likes to be in the loop on reftest harness changes
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3147. # [22:02] <@ehsan> yeah, I think dbaron is your reviewer there
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3150. # [22:03] <froydnj> ok, it's a feedback-worthy patch, not a review-worthy patch in any event
3151. # [22:03] <@ehsan> but if you need my feedback, please flag me
3152. # [22:04] <@ehsan> Bas: I'm backing you out, sorry
3153. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you're a true Canadian
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3155. # [22:04] <@ehsan> lol
3156. # [22:04] <@ehsan> I'm not ;)
3157. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> "sorry"
3158. # [22:04] <Ms2ger> Yes you are
3159. # [22:05] <@ehsan> sorry :)
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3161. # [22:05] <Ms2ger> See!
3162. # [22:05] * mattwoodrow|away is now known as mattwoodrow
3163. # [22:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c74f44828165 - Bobby Holley - Bug 863646 - Force layout initialization in XPCOM initialization. r=bsmedberg
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3166. # [22:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7383bd017b3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 4440571ee8fb (bug 805406) because of Windows reftest failures
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3168. # [22:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ff5c0134bbf - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 93099b76959f (bug 829954) because of Windows reftest failures on a CLOSED TREE
3169. # [22:08] <_AxS_> hey all .. so, prefs.js .. i've got this: http://bpaste.net/show/92643/ that is my new proposal for bug 429023 ... i'm wondering if i should leave the pref completely unset or set a pref by default somaplace and leave it undefined?
3170. # [22:08] * _AxS_ autocompletes bug# to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429023
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3173. # [22:10] <crussell> _AxS_: pick the one you think is best, do it, and see what the results of the review are
3174. # [22:11] <_AxS_> crussell: both will work. I'm leaning towards leaving it unset.
3175. # [22:11] <_AxS_> (at least, i'm not getting any errors, warnings, or crashing when i have no such pref set, here)
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3177. # [22:13] <crussell> _AxS_: do what thou wilt
3178. # [22:13] <bsmedberg> linux32 user, anyone?
3179. # [22:13] <_AxS_> right-o.
3180. # [22:13] <crussell> _AxS_: also, your nick is hard to type
3181. # [22:13] <crussell> bsmedberg: me
3182. # [22:14] <Waldo> man, people still use linux32?
3183. # [22:14] <_AxS_> crussell: yeah, sorry about that .. used to be a lot of mIRC nick completion scripts worked by ignoring funky chars; back then (when i picked this nick) it wasn't so bad ...
3184. # [22:14] <@ehsan> mccr8: ping
3185. # [22:14] <mccr8> ehsan: pong
3186. # [22:15] <_AxS_> bsmedberg: runtime or buildtime issue? i've got headless boxen but nothing with a screen right now
3187. # [22:15] <bsmedberg> _AxS_: runtime
3188. # [22:15] <@ehsan> mccr8: how am I supposed to tell the CC about my nsMainThreadPtrHolder pointing to myself?
3189. # [22:15] <_AxS_> bsmedberg: ... if its still an issue on Monday, I can help you out..
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3192. # [22:17] <mccr8> ehsan: bholley probably has a better idea. My guess would be that you shouldn't, and that whatever off main thread thing is holding onto you should clear it some how.
3193. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5ec90ea60b60 - John Schoenick - Bug 852315 - Use CheckPluginStopEvent for plugins when documents go inactive. r=bsmedberg a=bbajaj
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3195. # [22:17] <bholley> mccr8: hm?
3196. # [22:17] <@ehsan> mccr8: that... is not an option unfortunately
3197. # [22:17] <@ehsan> my non main thread thing wants to hold on to me as much as it can
3198. # [22:17] <mccr8> bholley: didn't you write nsMainThreadPtrHolder?
3199. # [22:17] <@ehsan> see, it really likes me
3200. # [22:17] <bholley> mccr8: I did
3201. # [22:18] <Ms2ger> ehsan, at least someone likes you... ;)
3202. # [22:18] <mccr8> bholley: how is the lifetime of that managed? is the off main thread just supposed to deal with figuring out when the reference should be dropped?
3203. # [22:18] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: some C++ object ;)
3204. # [22:18] <bholley> ehsan: uh, cross-thread cycles?
3205. # [22:18] <@ehsan> no no
3206. # [22:18] <mccr8> ehsan: well, the cycle collector can't trace off thread objects...
3207. # [22:18] <@ehsan> ok
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3210. # [22:18] <@ehsan> yes, I know
3211. # [22:19] <@ehsan> let me describe the situation
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3214. # [22:19] <@ehsan> I have a DOM object, which needs to be called back from a background thread
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3216. # [22:19] <@ehsan> the DOM object creates the bg thread object, and gives it an nsMainThreadPtrHolder pointing to itself
3217. # [22:20] <@ehsan> now I need to be able to tell the CC about that reference
3218. # [22:20] <_AxS_> gaston: you're the openbsd guy, right? did you want to provide feedback or review to the new attachment on bug 429023 ?
3219. # [22:20] <bholley> ehsan: well
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3221. # [22:20] <mccr8> that reference is owned by an non main thread thing, right? so you shouldn't tell the CC about it
3222. # [22:20] <@ehsan> cause otherwise the CC will never collect the cycle that my object is participating in because it seems like the cycle is references from elsewhere
3223. # [22:20] <bholley> ehsan: you shouldn't be holding onto that nsMainThreadPtrHolder from the DOM object
3224. # [22:20] <@ehsan> I'm not
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3226. # [22:20] <@ehsan> see the patch here: v
3227. # [22:20] <@ehsan> sorry
3228. # [22:20] <@ehsan> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=739624
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3230. # [22:21] <@ehsan> see ScriptProcessorNode::ScriptProcessorNode
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3232. # [22:21] <@ehsan> there I pass ScriptProcessorNodeEngine an nsMainThreadPtrHolder(this)
3233. # [22:21] <@ehsan> I'm not holding on to that object from my DOM object (ScriptProcessorNode)
3234. # [22:22] <@ehsan> but that adds a reference to this object that the CC does not know about
3235. # [22:22] <bholley> ehsan but you're holding onto the thread?
3236. # [22:22] <@ehsan> no
3237. # [22:22] <mccr8> ehsan: that reference comes from the NodeEngine, right?
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3239. # [22:22] <@ehsan> yes
3240. # [22:23] <mccr8> ehsan: and NodeEngine is a non-main-thread object? then you shouldn't tell the CC about it, because the CC is never going to examine the NodeEngine.
3241. # [22:23] <bholley> ehsan: then where is the cycle? It seems like it's just a strong ref from the background thing to the DOM object, which should keep the DOM object alive as long as the background thread needs it
3242. # [22:23] <@ehsan> mccr8: yes NodeEngine is non main thread
3243. # [22:23] <@ehsan> bholley: the cycle is between other objects
3244. # [22:23] <@ehsan> including ScriptProcesorNode
3245. # [22:23] <@ehsan> bholley: exactly, the problem is that there is no correct time for the bg thread to give up that reference
3246. # [22:24] <mccr8> ehsan: well somehow you need to decide when to kill off the bg object
3247. # [22:24] <@ehsan> basically I need CC to be able to kill this object as though that was a weak reference
3248. # [22:24] <@ehsan> that's the thing, I'm relying on CC to make that decision for me :)
3249. # [22:24] <mccr8> ehsan: maybe you should use a weak reference then?
3250. # [22:25] <@ehsan> mccr8: but I can't AddRef/Release from non-mainthread
3251. # [22:25] <@ehsan> oh
3252. # [22:25] <@ehsan> maybe I wouldn't need to?
3253. # [22:25] <mccr8> I'm not really sure how weak references from nonmainthread objects to mainthread objects should work
3254. # [22:26] <crussell> Waldo: 32-bit is still the recommended flavor
3255. # [22:26] <@ehsan> yeah I guess mfbt's WeakPtr wouldn't rely on AddRef/Release
3256. # [22:26] <crussell> Waldo: from Canonical
3257. # [22:26] <mccr8> but I don't think nsMainThreadPtrHolder is the right way to go.
3258. # [22:26] <@ehsan> ok let me try that
3259. # [22:26] <Waldo> crussell: I am going to resist the urge to say something snarky about Canoni...oh wait
3260. # [22:27] <mccr8> ehsan: you could use a nsMainThreadPtrHolder to some class that contains only a weak pointer to the node, maybe...
3261. # [22:27] <Waldo> :-)
3262. # [22:27] <mccr8> I don't know much about non mainthread stuff though
3263. # [22:27] <@ehsan> mccr8: no, I actually think I can get away without doing that
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3265. # [22:27] <mccr8> okay good
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3267. # [22:28] <crussell> Waldo: actually, 64-bit is recommended now for Windows 8 machines: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
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3269. # [22:29] <Waldo> oh, that makes it all better!
3270. # [22:29] <@ehsan> mccr8: oh crap
3271. # [22:29] <Waldo> hmm, I said something snarky, didn't I :-)
3272. # [22:29] <@ehsan> mccr8: bholley: so, WeakPtr is not thread safe
3273. # [22:29] <mccr8> not surprising. ;)
3274. # [22:29] * Waldo stops trolling :-)
3275. # [22:29] <@ehsan> I should just fix that :(
3276. # [22:29] <@ehsan> Waldo: available for a quick review in ~15 mins?
3277. # [22:30] <Waldo> ehsan: don't you want the mfbt atomics stuff that doesn't exist yet for that?
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3281. # [22:30] <Waldo> ehsan: and you might have a curious conception of "quick review", if it includes this ;-)
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3283. # [22:30] <@ehsan> Waldo: no I need RefCountedThreadSafe which exists right now :)
3284. # [22:31] <Waldo> huh, really
3285. # [22:31] <@ehsan> trust me, I have only like 2 mins to write the patch :)
3286. # [22:31] <Waldo> flw
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3293. # [22:34] <robarnold> bsmedberg: I did a light review; based on my history with the reviewee and the level of testing they did, I wasn't sure that a manual inspection of the code would be worth it.
3294. # [22:35] <bsmedberg> robarnold: do automated tests cover this code?
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3296. # [22:35] * bsmedberg isn't familiar with it but doesn't want to hold it up if there's obvious general comfort
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3298. # [22:35] <tn> gavin, the other option would be to mark that assert as known and land the other bug so it's not blocked
3299. # [22:36] <@gavin> tn: I thought it was a crash?
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3301. # [22:36] <@ehsan> Waldo: oh man, RefCountedThreadSafe is a chromium thing, not mfbt :(
3302. # [22:36] <tn> gavin, oh yeah, it's a MOZ_ASSERT and not as NS_ASSERTION
3303. # [22:36] <Waldo> ehsan: that would explain why I didn't recognize it
3304. # [22:37] <tn> gavin, so it's a debug only crash
3305. # [22:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/aa1b0882ae31 - Jonathan Kew - bug 861270 - prefer to use precise scale factor from GetDefaultScale() rather than approximate factor based on appUnits per devpix. r=roc a=bajaj
3306. # [22:37] <@ehsan> Waldo: so, I can't fix this "properly" right?
3307. # [22:37] <Waldo> ehsan: not quickly, from the sounds of it, at least not in a way that everyone can use
3308. # [22:38] <@gavin> tn: are you saying it would be acceptable to weaken the assertion?
3309. # [22:38] <@ehsan> Waldo: would you take this, sans the comment change? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2320997
3310. # [22:38] <tn> gavin, i mean it's only a change in debug builds, and if it was only a temporary change
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3312. # [22:39] <@gavin> tn: well sure. I don't know how real of a problem it represents. I'll look into it further I guess.
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3315. # [22:40] <tn> gavin, it's something that makes me feel icky. anyways it was just a thought
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3318. # [22:41] <tn> gavin, since the two bugs are unrelated, and it only causes the problem to happen more often, not cause the problem
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3320. # [22:42] <@gavin> yeah
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3323. # [22:43] <Waldo> ehsan: looking
3324. # [22:44] <@ehsan> Waldo: obviously I mean a version of that idea that actually compiles ;)
3325. # [22:44] <Waldo> ehsan: you *sure* you don't want + class WeakReference : public RefCounter<WeakReference>?
3326. # [22:44] <@ehsan> Waldo: that lets me use my own RefCounter class and solve my problem
3327. # [22:44] <@ehsan> right, I just prototyped the approach
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3329. # [22:44] <@ehsan> working on implementing this in C++ as we speak ;)(
3330. # [22:45] <Waldo> ehsan: the static-assert is what didn't compile, I guess? the approach looks reasonable enough, and I assume you'll just have a SupportsWeakPtrThreadSafe<T> that derives from *Base<T>, or so?
3331. # [22:45] * Waldo handwaves furiously
3332. # [22:45] <Waldo> *jazzhands*
3333. # [22:46] <seth> what's the way to indicate not to close a bug when the patches land on m-c? "leave-open" in the whiteboard?
3334. # [22:46] <@ehsan> Waldo: let me just give you a patch that does compile ;)
3335. # [22:46] <Waldo> ehsan: bold!
3336. # [22:46] <froydnj> seth: [leave open]
3337. # [22:46] <@ehsan> Waldo: yeah, although that SupportsWeakPtrThreadSafe cannot live in mfbt for now :(
3338. # [22:46] <Waldo> yeah :-\
3339. # [22:46] <Waldo> one step at a time, or something
3340. # [22:46] <@ehsan> Waldo: fwiw I had discussed doing this with jrmuizel befoee
3341. # [22:46] <@ehsan> I was just too lazy to do it :)
3342. # [22:47] <Waldo> :-)
3343. # [22:47] <seth> froydnj: thanks!
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3350. # [22:51] <robarnold> bsmedberg: pretty sure they don't; afaik Mozilla still uses VMs heavily which are pretty much non-representative. You need a variety of real machines to test this; the author has a testing program that was manually run.
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3367. # [23:00] <@ehsan> Waldo: ping
3368. # [23:00] <Waldo> ehsan: pong
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3370. # [23:01] <@ehsan> Waldo: so, RefCounted::Release does delete static_cast<T*>(this)
3371. # [23:01] <@ehsan> why is that correct?
3372. # [23:01] <Waldo> ehsan: T must inherit from RefCounted<T>; the static assertion of IsBaseOf should guarantee that
3373. # [23:02] <@ehsan> yes, but this will not equal the address of the T object
3374. # [23:02] <@ehsan> right?
3375. # [23:02] <@ehsan> oh
3376. # [23:02] <@ehsan> the static cast fixes that I guess
3377. # [23:02] <Waldo> static_cast<> adjusts the pointer address, yes
3378. # [23:02] <@ehsan> oh
3379. # [23:03] <@ehsan> Waldo: so the static assertion that you're talking about
3380. # [23:03] <@ehsan> it would have enforeced that, if it ever existed ;)
3381. # [23:03] <Waldo> ehsan: erm, it doesn't?
3382. # [23:03] <@ehsan> nope
3383. # [23:03] <@ehsan> I'll add it
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3385. # [23:03] <Waldo> hm
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3387. # [23:04] <Waldo> in this case it doesn't matter, I think, as static_cast<> requires that sort of up-or-down type relationship between the input type and the output type
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3389. # [23:04] <Waldo> you'd get a compile error if you did it wrong, I think
3390. # [23:04] <@ehsan> yeah I know
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3392. # [23:04] <@ehsan> but then you end up questioning your sanity
3393. # [23:04] <@ehsan> like I did
3394. # [23:04] <Waldo> wouldn't hurt to be explicit, doesn't hurt that it's not :-)
3395. # [23:04] <Waldo> that aside
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3401. # [23:06] <@ehsan> oh crap
3402. # [23:07] <@ehsan> so there's this other problem
3403. # [23:07] <@ehsan> that the following is not valid C++
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3405. # [23:07] <@ehsan> template <class T, class U> class X { ... class X : public U {} }; X<T, RefCounted>
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3409. # [23:09] <@ehsan> Waldo: ok, I need WeakReference to derived from RefCounted<WeakReference> in the normal case, and RefCountedThreadSafe<WeakReference> for the thread safe case
3410. # [23:09] <@ehsan> so you know how to express that in C++?
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3414. # [23:10] <Waldo> ehsan: I'm not getting your nested class X in the syntax there -- maybe pastebin a non-one-liner?
3415. # [23:11] <@ehsan> hmm
3416. # [23:11] <@ehsan> well
3417. # [23:11] <@ehsan> Waldo: this is what I have so far: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2321078
3418. # [23:12] <@ehsan> see how WeakReference is deriving from RefCounter?
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3420. # [23:12] <@ehsan> here:
3421. # [23:12] <@ehsan> +template <typename T>
3422. # [23:12] <@ehsan> +class WeakPtr : public WeakPtrBase<T, RefCounted<T> >
3423. # [23:12] <@ehsan> +{
3424. # [23:12] <johns> josh: ping
3425. # [23:12] <@ehsan> I need to say something like class WeakPtr : public WeakPtrBase<T, RefCounted<...::WeakReference> >
3426. # [23:12] <@ehsan> but I can't
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3429. # [23:13] <josh> johns: pong
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3431. # [23:13] <@ehsan> Waldo: IOW, I sort of need to pass the "name" RefCounted to SupportsWeakReferenceBase
3432. # [23:14] <@ehsan> and have it tell its WeakReference member to derive from RefCounter<WeakReference>
3433. # [23:14] <@ehsan> except that is not valid C++
3434. # [23:14] <johns> josh: Do you know much about PluginInstanceOwner/frames? Bug 854082 needs review and I think bsmedberg is a bit busy at the moment
3435. # [23:14] * Waldo thinks
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3438. # [23:15] <@ehsan> this mess makes me just wanna copy and paste WeakPtr.h and move on :((
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3441. # [23:16] <johns> josh: (this is what you get for reviewing patches quickly)
3442. # [23:16] <Jesse> vlad: what do you keep in your objdir? can you opt out of auto-clobber?
3443. # [23:16] <Jesse> (re https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=863091#c10)
3444. # [23:16] <@ehsan> Waldo: I guess one way to fix this is to move WeakReference into mozilla::detail, and have a thread safe version of it which mimics its interface, and then template based on that instead of RefCounter
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3446. # [23:17] <Waldo> ehsan: honestly I'm still trying to grok exactly what it is you're doing
3447. # [23:17] <@ehsan> Waldo: ok, nm, I just wanted to make sure you're going to like my approach
3448. # [23:17] <@ehsan> but I suspect I'll just move on for now and ask for forgiveness (review) later ;)
3449. # [23:17] <Waldo> :-)
3450. # [23:18] <@ehsan> cause I do need to solve this problem, and I'm about to fork WeakPtr.h anyways ;)
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3452. # [23:18] <Waldo> nooooooo
3453. # [23:19] <gps> BenWa: are gtest tests running as part of checkin yet?
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3458. # [23:20] <Waldo> I guess I need to see patches/uses before I can really understand this, without spending too much time on it now
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3460. # [23:21] <@ehsan> ok
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3462. # [23:22] <Waldo> whatever it is is being done, should be solvable without hacks
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3464. # [23:22] <Waldo> but I don't grok enough to say how yet
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3469. # [23:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a57fd32d0e28 - Jonathan Kew - bug 838239 - check for possible DPI change when restoring content from browser history. r=roc a=bajaj
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3474. # [23:27] <@ehsan> Waldo: victory!!!
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3476. # [23:28] <Waldo> great
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3478. # [23:31] <Ms2ger> todo(false, "selection tests can't run in debug builds.");
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3480. # [23:32] <jesup> bajaj: ping
3481. # [23:32] <bajaj> jesup: pong
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3483. # [23:33] <jesup> bajaj: Wanted to ping you about the TURN patches for Aurora (which are blocking an important fix for bug 856848)
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3485. # [23:34] <jesup> bajaj: bug 855769 and bug 786235
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3490. # [23:35] <jesup> bajaj: this sort of problem (patches that need to land that get blocked by the code changes/refactors that supported the TURN feature) was why we asked for a preffed-off uplift of TURN
3491. # [23:36] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: :-(
3492. # [23:36] <bajaj> jesup: I and lsblakk had some questions around the TURN uplift and wanted akeybl to make a call as Fx22 will be driven by him..but given the concerns and the urgent approval needed here, I ma checking the bugs now
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3494. # [23:37] <bajaj> jesup: will ping you on any questions I may have during approval
3495. # [23:37] <Jesse> why am i suddenly getting twice as much debug spew?
3496. # [23:37] <Jesse> [debug] event_process_active: event: 0x100125a90, EV_READ call 0x102c04af0
3497. # [23:37] <Ms2ger> Lemme get you the bug number
3498. # [23:37] <jesup> bajaj: thanks. Ping if you have questions
3499. # [23:38] <Ms2ger> Bug 860885
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3501. # [23:38] <Ms2ger> Jesse, ^
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3530. # [23:55] <WeirdAl> crussell: thanks for catching that... I guess I missed having tests for that particular method.
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