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# [00:00] <avih> ah http://askubuntu.com/questions/214805/how-do-i-disable-swap : swapoff -a to disable, and swapon -a to restore
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# [00:00] <jgilbert> cool
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# [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58011469a3c9 - John Schoenick - Backout e3eaea876a18, 3aaf738a04d8, and 43d1b14e8920 (Bug 854082) for orange on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:02] <johns> RyanVM ^
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# [00:05] <johns> Of course, this passed on try, but OS X wasn't in the run
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# [00:05] <philor> chalk another one up for "everyone should run less on try!"
# [00:05] <avih> jgilbert: i think i got it. sort of. while my actual used ram is 1g of 5, i got another 4g of cache, so it appears to be disk io afteral. i'll increase the vm ram from 5 to 6-7g, hope it'll be solved...
# [00:06] * philor tags this closure as infra
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# [00:06] <catlee> philor: where?
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# [00:08] <johns> philor: I'll just start pushing to try with |-u all -p all r=philor|
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# [00:09] <philor> catlee: inbound, "bustage resulting from someone pushing too little too try"
# [00:09] <joe> -p burnMoreCycles
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# [00:09] <johns> |-p all, twice|
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# [00:12] <Jesse> philor: any interesting patterns in the kinds of bugs that we miss by too little Try? do they tend to be build errors or test errors? would they be caught by "sparse" runs that make all builds, and run all tests, but don't run all tests on all builds?
# [00:12] <catlee> philor: which closure is tagged as infra?
# [00:12] <philor> Jesse: some would, some wouldn't
# [00:13] <@ehsan> oh
# [00:13] <philor> catlee: <joke>I'm tagging this closure as infra</joke>
# [00:13] <@ehsan> nical's first push is also busted :(
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# [00:13] <philor> yeah, I was about to ask whether that one was out yet
# [00:13] <johns> Jesse: In this case I added a new test, I should've ran that part of the suite on all platforms. I foolishly assumed this highly platform independent code would either work or not :-P
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# [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c798562d74c - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset fdaa0659fe13 (bug 863324) because of build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:15] <philor> Jesse: we do have per-platform build bustages, mostly from the variety of warnings-as-errors, sometimes because things are built differently, or arm-specific stuff; we also have "oh, to my surprise I broke a test I didn't think would depend on me, but it turns out to be disabled on Linux for other reasons"
# [00:15] <Jesse> johns: now i'm curious what made it not platform independent
# [00:15] <johns> Jesse: Me too. It's some generic DOM assertion failure, even
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# [00:15] <Jesse> philor: "but it turns out to be disabled on Linux for other reasons" eww!
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# [00:16] <Jesse> philor: that does put a wrench in "run each test suite on at least one platform"
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# [00:17] <Jesse> philor: btw, did you see "Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound" and "... (updated)" on dev.platform?
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# [00:18] <philor> Jesse: parts of both, once they got linked from a bug, I missed the memo when .platform became the new .planning, so I don't actually read it
# [00:19] <philor> Jesse: the part where it boils down to "RyanVM pushes every single thing that gets pushed" of course amused me greatly :)
# [00:19] <Jesse> joduinn-mtg seems to be more inclined to go with multiple inbounds, in part because relying on Try means more clobber builds, but i'm hoping to talk with him later today
# [00:19] <Jesse> philor: i just pretended that part of the proposal read "a bot does it"
# [00:19] <philor> multiple inbounds is doomed to utter failure
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# [00:20] <Jesse> yeah, it would be merge hell
# [00:20] <philor> and yeah, the Auto thing sounds a lot better when you pretend it's talking about what we would like to do in 3-5 years
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# [00:20] <Jesse> why 3-5 years? why not next week?
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# [00:20] <philor> who are you going to hire, and turn into a fully up to speed sheriff, by next week?
# [00:21] <Jesse> i think the setup with Auto will require less sheriffing than the current setup
# [00:21] <philor> or are you going to make RyanVM continue to push most b2g patches, all checkin-needed patches, and also do all of that?
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# [00:22] <johns> Well if our issue is infra load, doesn't the auto thing increase that 10 fold?
# [00:22] <bmoss> mreavy: ping
# [00:22] <mreavy> bmoss: pong
# [00:22] <Jesse> because it will mean 1 developer (or occasionally ~5 developers) getting "your patch didn't make it in" message rather than a sheriff needing to manage a tree closure
# [00:22] <bmoss> my vidyo room?
# [00:22] <johns> if infra isn't an issue, just shame people into try pushing more aggressively
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# [00:22] <philor> johns: no, because you just push a whole batch of things to Auto, that's one of the few attractive parts of it
# [00:23] <philor> because we do have a huge problem resulting from people pushing their own trivia in individual pushes
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# [00:24] <johns> philor: So the idea is if someone in that batch burns, the whole batch is rejected? Wouldn't that encourage people to skip try more, thus burning more batches, thus greatly increasing how many innocent patches have to repush multiple times?
# [00:24] <@ehsan> philor: johns: whether or not Auto will be an infra win or lose is something yet to be seen depdending on how people ending up using it
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# [00:25] <Jesse> johns: no, that's how inbound works now :P
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# [00:25] <@ehsan> Jesse: it could end up being how Auto gets used in the future too
# [00:26] <@ehsan> inbound is being used a lot more differently than already intended, fwiw
# [00:26] <Jesse> ehsan: "inbound is being used a lot more differently than already intended, fwiw" oh?
# [00:26] <philor> johns: depends - just like with inbound, if test_12345.js fails and test_12345.js landed in one of the patches, you know; if crashtests hang on shutdown, everybody gets trashed
# [00:26] <philor> ah, the glorious original inbound plan...
# [00:27] <philor> revert! revert! revert!
# [00:27] <@ehsan> Jesse: compared to the original idea of how everybody would use try, and sheriffs rolling back to the last green cset when bustage happens and then retry pushes on top of it individually
# [00:27] <philor> a shame that it also depended on magical sheriff fairies appearing out of thin air
# [00:27] <@ehsan> to be far, both of those are partly due to inadequate infra capacity
# [00:27] <@ehsan> philor: exactly
# [00:28] <@ehsan> I'm probably starting to sound like a broken record, but I doubt any plans that doesn't optimize for the sheriffs is going to be a win
# [00:28] <@ehsan> and things such as multiple inbounds fall into that category
# [00:29] <Jesse> i'm imagining that all Auto changesets would get thrown away from history, but sheriffs would be able to mark individual Try pushes that contributed to it as "try integrating this again in the next or second-next Auto batch"
# [00:29] <philor> not doing the revert-reland isn't due to infra, it's due to not hiring 8 sheriffs, and the fact that it often seems like a really stupid thing to do
# [00:29] <johns> Maybe we just need to give philor a nerf bat and have everyone with m-i access sign a might-get-nerfed waiver
# [00:30] <Jesse> err, all *failing* Auto changesets would be thrown away from history
# [00:30] <Jesse> good Auto changesets would become mozilla-central changesets
# [00:30] <@ehsan> philor: well, if we could turn of coealescing, maybe we wouldn't need an extra 8 sheriffs for that :)
# [00:30] <philor> yeah, yeah, a nerf bat, that'd be good
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# [00:30] <Jesse> i do think of Auto as a more-intentional version of Coalescing
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# [00:31] * philor looks at inbound
# [00:31] <johns> D:
# [00:31] <philor> yeah, nothing I want to face there yet
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# [00:32] <Jesse> ehsan: are you saying that multiple inbounds optimizes for sheriffs, or that it doesn't?
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# [00:32] <philor> it does not
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# [00:32] <philor> the only way it does is if you go back to 1998 and insist on a great deal more modularity
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# [00:35] <philor> b2g may continue using Birch as an inbound2, which may work, to the extent that patches landed there don't often conflict with patches landed elsewhere, and fx-team works as long as the people who land stuff there also insist on the related stuff they review landing there, but if you equally split jsengine and layout and DOM patches between two trees?
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# [00:37] <tbsaunde> you can certainly break things up badly, but b2g / fx-team / mobile are probably all chunks that are well contained and seperate reasonably
# [00:38] <Jesse> yeah, splitting {js, dombindings, dom, layout} into separate inbounds isn't going to work. and the other things that can be split are mostly, i think.
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# [00:39] <tbsaunde> Jesse: I'm not convinced that we couldn't split more, gfx maybe could be seperate
# [00:39] <tbsaunde> and the profiler could have its own tree just for two examples
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# [00:40] <tbsaunde> Jesse: and I think though I haven't been paying a huge amount of atention the last week that b2g work being on birch has already helped alot
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# [00:41] <philor> well, if you split out something that only has a push or two a day, you hurt rather than helping
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# [00:41] <tbsaunde> philor: even if you run much less tests? why is that?
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# [00:42] <philor> throwing away the benefits of coalescing
# [00:42] <philor> oh, yeah, if you go with the fantasy of "my patches only affect this suite" then you could run less overall
# [00:42] <Jesse> also every merge gets tested... twice
# [00:43] <philor> until the backouts of your merges, anyway, though merges... yeah
# [00:43] <Jesse> how do you even back out a merge
# [00:43] <philor> look at services-central for a bad inbound2
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# [00:43] <jcranmer> froydnj: if the problem with clang is that it doesn't have the <atomic> header, you can use the has_include guard for that
# [00:44] <tbsaunde> philor: its not so much a fanticy as running some amount of risk but sure
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# [00:45] * philor glances at the closed tree
# [00:45] <philor> sure, but I'm not convinced that we know how to properly assess the level of risk we're taking
# [00:47] <avih> bjacob_: jgilbert: so it appears to be disk io. ld (and apparently gold as well) write a _lot_ to disk while linking libxul.so. I'm guessing either i didn't have enough rame to make effective use of caching, or vbox doesn't handle this case optimally, which results in a lot of io blocking. well, at least i know what it is now, or at least have a reasonable suspicion. thanks for the help.
# [00:47] <philor> there are pushes where someone correctly thought "I only need to run reftests and crashtests on this patch on try" which I don't notice, but I don't notice them because I'm distracted by the bustage on top of bustage on top of build bustage on top of bustage because we did a bad job of guessing what a patch would affect
# [00:47] <avih> ram*
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# [00:49] <tbsaunde> philor: are you saying people ignore try results, or do you mean something else?
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# [00:52] <philor> tbsaunde: I mean that you can get a feeling for how good we are at assessing what test suites will be affected by what patches by looking at how often something backed out of inbound had a try push which did not include the suite or the platform where it broke
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# [00:53] <philor> I'd guess that's now the bulk of our backouts
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# [00:53] <tbsaunde> philor: makes sense
# [00:54] <WG9s> Is this an issue with the review process. SHould rather than just r+ be r+ with what needs to be run on try?
# [00:54] <tbsaunde> that's more bustage than "this seems really safe I won't bother with try" ?
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# [00:55] <froydnj> jcranmer: I didn't know about the has_include bit, but we'd still need to fix clang so it understands __sync* correctly or write a clang-specific implementation
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# [00:55] <philor> WG9s: no, it's an issue with the complexity of the codebase and the complexity of the test suites and the complexity of the tests, it's not "this foolish newb doesn't know what to run" so much as "nobody knows what to run"
# [00:57] <philor> johns: oh, I finally looked at what your bustage actually was - the ever-popular "I got in between a test that causes an assertion and the other test where it actually hits and is annotated," how lovely!
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# [01:00] <johns> philor: I'm not even entirely sure what to do about this. Maybe jam some more forceGC calls into the other test.
# [01:00] <philor> or was that not it, and that's some other bustage in this tasty stew?
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# [01:01] <johns> philor: I honestly have no idea. I'm trying to fix bugs where plugins re-enter random code while inside code that was re-entered from plugins while inside spawning a plugin while inside tearing down a document from a JS call that was run by a plugin that is mid-instantiate
# [01:01] <johns> Pretty much any assertion or crash in gecko I could believe being my fault at this point
# [01:01] <philor> heh
# [01:02] <johns> And if you ever do find a time machine to go beg for modularity in 1998, I need to borrow it to go have a nice talk with some java devs in 1995
# [01:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/52864fd204f3 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 863897 - Update doc comment for CheckArg in nsAppRunner.cpp [r=bsmedberg]
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# [01:07] <jgilbert> avih, consider compiling to a ramdisk?
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# [01:08] <avih> jgilbert: my kernel cache is exhausted, so it re-read stuff... i don't have more ram. i have 12G on my windows machine, tried to allocate 8G to the linux vm, and it's indeed better, but still bogged down by IO a bit...
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# [01:10] <jgilbert> yeah, but if it's not RAM-size bound, shifting a couple gigs to a ramdisk for compiling to could help out, especially since (IIRC) linux's ramdisk option doesn't actually consume free ram until it is asked to store something
# [01:10] <jgilbert> avih, ^
# [01:11] <avih> jgilbert: i'll give it a go, but knowing the problem is enough for me right now. i might try further stuff on another time.
# [01:12] <jgilbert> sure
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# [01:12] <NeilAway> that was weird, my window opened maximised but the content thought it should be half the width
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# [01:13] <philor> that's the new "thou shalt have no other windows before me" size mode
# [01:14] <@smaug> Looks like clobbering isn't a major issue anymore http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/1150403342b2//CLOBBER
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# [01:21] <johns> philor: Yeah it looks like |test_bug813906.html| was causing an assertion at a later date that got instead annotated into a few bugs after it
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# [01:23] <philor> yep, that was my guess
# [01:23] <philor> oh, and look, we had Android bustage under the Android bustage
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# [01:26] <philor> johns: did you back everything out?
# [01:26] <philor> you've got plugin crashes on your backout
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# [01:27] <johns> But... why weren't they happening... on the other.. goddammit
# [01:27] <philor> people-waiting-for-a-reopening: call the restaurant again, push your reservations back another two hours
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# [01:28] <johns> When jst asked me to look at a plugin bug about a year ago I should've: http://i.imgur.com/e4TVTP4.gif
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# [01:28] <Hixie> mounir: ping https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11937
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# [01:29] <johns> Oh I see the test for the other bug is triggering the first bug which is no longer fixed.
# [01:29] <johns> of course.
# [01:29] <johns> said test is so awesome it tests for other unrelated bugs
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# [01:45] <@dbaron> Am I the only one who's not seeing any builds on tbpl?
# [01:45] <philor> yes
# [01:46] <philor> I recommend refreshing harder
# [01:46] <johns> tbpl is a forest of pretty colors
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# [01:46] <philor> it's the "just clobber" of webapp caching :)
# [01:48] <@dbaron> shift-reload means I see builds briefly while it's loading and then they go away
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# [01:49] <philor> weird
# [01:50] <@dbaron> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ is still the preferred tbpl url?
# [01:50] <philor> the one and only
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# [01:51] <@dbaron> seems to work in other browsers
# [01:51] <@dbaron> but not in a build from today
# [01:51] <@dbaron> with the 10:20 backout
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# [01:52] <philor> ah, I seem to be using the first nightly of the day, let me stab myself in the face
# [01:52] <philor> I mean, check for updates
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# [01:53] <Callek> philor: you need to sharpen your knife, you've used it too much
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# [01:54] <philor> doesn't take a very sharp knife to stab pulp
# [01:54] <WG9s> dbaron: I don't see an issue with latest nightly. Is it possible some new code of yours actually broke this?
# [01:54] <Callek> philor: it does if you want the pulp to still hurt rather than just conform around the shape of the knife
# [01:54] <@smaug> he left
# [01:54] <@smaug> but tbpl works fine here
# [01:54] <@smaug> using m-i
# [01:54] <WG9s> OR i guess something that landed post-nightly
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# [02:37] <philor> what was the name of that Heinlein short story that gave a name to remote manipulators?
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# [02:40] <aja> philor: Waldo?
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# [02:42] <Waldo> :-)
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# [02:42] <Waldo> used to be firebot would insult you back if you said something like that, but maybe someone shut it off
# [02:43] <philor> firebot: shut up
# [02:43] <firebot> philor: I wasn't talking to you.
# [02:43] <philor> order matters
# [02:43] <Waldo> oh, right
# [02:43] <Waldo> and I even subconsciously remembered when I said "used to be...", good times
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# [03:04] <RyanVM|dinner> KWierso|Home: yt?
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# [03:04] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: ohai
# [03:04] <RyanVM> y halo thar
# [03:05] <RyanVM> KWierso|Home: let me catch up on some starring and we can do an inbound merge
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# [03:06] <tanvi> trying to push to inbound and i'm getting "abort: source has mq patches applied""
# [03:06] <tanvi> anyone know what that's about?
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# [03:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/138187d07a1c - Reuben Morais - Bug 864578 - Allow NamedConstructor and NoInterfaceObject in the same interface. r=bz
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# [03:10] <MattN> tanvi: forgot to qfinish?
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# [03:10] <tanvi> MattN: yes! thanks
# [03:10] <RyanVM> KWeirso|Home: no time like the present! :)
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# [03:11] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: but I had one last week, and don't remember ever deleting it :S
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# [03:13] <MattN> cpearce: fyi beta is unhappy
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# [03:13] <cpearce> MattN: thanks, I forgot to qref my fixes before pushing :(
# [03:14] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: oh, right, I moved all of my ~/mozilla/ folder over to a second drive because I was running out of space...
# [03:14] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: inbound cloned! :)
# [03:14] <RyanVM> heh
# [03:14] <MattN> cpearce: ah, ok. I'll wait for the follow-up fix before I push my own changeset
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# [03:14] <cpearce> MattN: thanks, won't be long.
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# [03:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6082f402670e - Chris Pearce - Bug 852915 - Bustage fix. r=bustage a=bustage
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# [03:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f59811fe0fb3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
# [03:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/19510f91504b - Josh Matthews - Bug 863769 - Make ArrayBufferInputStream use rooting APIs that don't rely on the JS context being valid. r=jonco,vlad
# [03:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a991d0f4469b - Josh Matthews - Bug 863770 - Pass in an ArrayBuffer object for nsBinaryInputStream::ReadAsArrayBuffer to use, for cases when the compartment in which it resides matters. r=vlad
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# [03:18] <mjrosenb> *jesus* this renders poorly in nightly: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/22/why-arent-younger-americans-driving-anymore/
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# [03:19] <Jesse> mjrosenb: seems ok to me
# [03:19] <@bz> mjrosenb: looks fine here....
# [03:19] <@bz> I mean the ad crap is ad crap
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# [03:19] <@bz> but apart from that...
# [03:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd89b7d8dbf0 - Garrett Robinson - Bug 837351 - Security Errors in Web Console. r=msucan
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# [03:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af21a5a0956e - Garrett Robinson - Bug 837351 - Log blocked mixed content to the Error and Web Consoles. r=smaug
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# [03:23] <mjrosenb> Jesse: bz: http://people.mozilla.org/~mrosenberg/Screenshot%20from%202013-04-22%2021:21:26.png
# [03:23] <joe> er, wow
# [03:23] <joe> that ain't right
# [03:23] <joe> and if you shift-reload same deal?
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# [03:24] <mjrosenb> joe: blast. that fixed it.
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# [03:24] <mjrosenb> guess css went off the deep end?
# [03:24] <joe> mjrosenb: broken stylesheet is my prediction
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# [03:24] <JonathanS> mjrosenb, I am afraid of driving in Florida.
# [03:25] <Jesse> you have a lot of tabs open
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# [03:25] <mjrosenb> Jesse: yeah... I'm really bad about tha.
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# [03:26] <joe> mjrosenb: http://getpocket.com
# [03:26] <Jesse> indeed. pocket is great.
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# [03:26] <Jesse> except that it can't handle a third of the blog posts i throw at it
# [03:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ff93faf36068 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 841967 - Disable PopupNotification's security delay. r=dolske,a=bajaj
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# [03:27] <joe> Jesse: solution: only read Ars Technica
# [03:28] <Jesse> lol
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# [03:31] <joduinn-mtg> Jesse: well done. I'm just out of my last mtg.
# [03:31] <joduinn-mtg> need coffee. and afew mins to catch up on email
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# [03:33] <joe> Jesse: only problem is they're still using the gorram old fx icon
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# [03:33] <joe> http://getpocket.com/add/
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# [03:36] <Jesse> noooo
# [03:36] <Jesse> how did that even happen. pocket (or at least the "pocket" branding) is newer than our newest logo.
# [03:37] <joe> https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+icon&safe=off&client=firefox-nightly&hs=VEo&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=S-V1UaKRGImkrAGNzYHwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1320&bih=858
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# [03:37] <joe> somewhere, mart3ll's eyes just twitched
# [03:39] <philor> quick, someone disable my bugzilla account, before I reply to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832702#c8
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# [03:46] <Callek> philor: I dare you to be more cynical than ever! (A tough dare, I admit)
# [03:46] <Callek> of course, should anyone threaten you, I disavow all knowledge of having dared you to do this, and I retroactively purge myself from your IRC logs
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# [03:52] <RyanVM> random question for those around tonight
# [03:52] <philor> you know, really, I haven't taken that testpilot bustage seriously enough
# [03:52] <RyanVM> anyone with a CS degree from a private college interested in being profiled for an article?
# [03:52] * @bz fails preconditions
# [03:52] <philor> since just not shipping it doesn't make existing copies go away, I really should have asked to have it blocklisted
# [03:52] <jcranmer> sorry, I got my degree from an out-of-state public university
# [03:53] <jcranmer> and I'm getting my other degree at another out-of-state public university
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# [03:54] <jcranmer> in fact, I haven't attended a private school since Google was founded
# [03:54] * KWierso|Home meets the first half of the preconditions
# [03:54] <@roc> RyanVM: I assume "undergraduate degree" is one of your preconditions?
# [03:54] <RyanVM> yes :(
# [03:55] * @roc fails
# [03:55] <jcranmer> which begs the question:
# [03:55] <RyanVM> (this is for a publication about private schools - my wife's a freelance writer on the side)
# [03:55] <jcranmer> how many people here actually have an undergraduate CS degree in the first place?
# [03:55] <@roc> I do
# [03:55] <heycam> …freelance writer?
# [03:55] <ewong> I don't.
# [03:55] * @bz does not
# [03:55] <Jesse> heycam++
# [03:55] <@bz> dbaron does
# [03:55] <jcranmer> heycam: LOL
# [03:55] <RyanVM> heycam: cover blown :(
# [03:55] <@bz> from a private school
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# [03:55] <@bz> but he's not around
# [03:56] * heycam is not sure there is a distinction between public and private universities in australia
# [03:56] <RyanVM> bz: I'll ping him tomorrow, thanks :)
# [03:56] <philor> gah, we're still shipping testpilot with betas, aren't we?
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# [03:57] <Jesse> what's the distinction in the US?
# [03:57] <philor> "this leaks too much to ship with aurora nightlies, but betas, that's fine"
# [03:58] <heycam> spell_cast<Frog*>(prince)
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# [03:59] <jcranmer> I would say that the distinction is "does the government help run it"
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# [04:00] <jcranmer> but considering that most research tends to be funded by the government
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# [04:00] <jcranmer> that is a less useful criterion than one might have otherwise expected
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# [04:00] <RyanVM> in the days of government loans and grants, no such thing :P
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# [04:02] <derf> jcranmer: I do.
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# [04:02] * jcranmer does as well
# [04:02] <derf> But froma public school.
# [04:03] <derf> *from a
# [04:03] <derf> The private one didn't offer me enough of a scholarship.
# [04:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d7335eac2a7 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to m-c
# [04:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52864fd204f3 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 863897 - Update doc comment for CheckArg in nsAppRunner.cpp [r=bsmedberg]
# [04:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a991d0f4469b - Josh Matthews - Bug 863770 - Pass in an ArrayBuffer object for nsBinaryInputStream::ReadAsArrayBuffer to use, for cases when the compartment in which it resides matters. r=vlad
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# [04:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f59811fe0fb3 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
# [04:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acf388eaf9e9 - Wes Kocher - Merge the last PGO-green inbound changeset to m-c.
# [04:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19510f91504b - Josh Matthews - Bug 863769 - Make ArrayBufferInputStream use rooting APIs that don't rely on the JS context being valid. r=jonco,vlad
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# [04:23] <jcranmer> sigh
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# [04:23] <jcranmer> can someone please explain to me why RFindChar is on nsAString in the external API but nsString in the internal API?
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# [04:25] <@gavin> "can someone please explain to me ... [our string APIs]"
# [04:25] <@gavin> no
# [04:25] <jcranmer> or a better question in general
# [04:26] <jcranmer> WHY do we have incongruencies between the external and internal API for strings ‽
# [04:26] <philor> if "the horror, the horror" is an answer, there's your answer
# [04:26] <jcranmer> think of the twines?
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# [04:28] <@ehsan> KWierso|Home: thanks a lot for merging :)
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# [04:29] <KWierso|Home> ehsan: and I only screwed up one letter in the merge commit!
# [04:29] <@ehsan> KWierso|Home: which letter is that?
# [04:29] <KWierso|Home> s/c/i/
# [04:29] <@bz> can someone explain to me why we have external strings?
# [04:30] <jcranmer> bz: to reduce relocations
# [04:30] <@ehsan> KWierso|Home: ??
# [04:30] <philor> he did a "Merge m-c to m-c"
# [04:30] <@ehsan> oh
# [04:30] <KWierso|Home> ehsan: "merge m-c to m-c" probably shouldn't be too many changes
# [04:30] <@ehsan> KWierso|Home: I thanked you for the central merge :P
# [04:30] <@ehsan> didn't even look at inbound
# [04:30] <@ehsan> plus
# [04:30] <@ehsan> what's a letter between friends? :)
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# [04:31] <jcranmer> [it would be nice if we actually explained that rationale somewhere]
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# [04:31] <@ehsan> bz: iirc they're a slimmer interface for stuff outside of where xpcom lives
# [04:31] <RyanVM> *sniff* fly little birdie, fly
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# [04:32] <jcranmer> ehsan: not slimmer, just avoiding exporting C++ ABIs
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# [04:34] <@ehsan> jcranmer: meh, I never learned xpcom strings
# [04:34] <@ehsan> I just recently started to pretend to have learned them!
# [04:34] <@ehsan> clearly that's not working out for me ;)
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# [04:35] <jcranmer> well, the string API is definitely a veritable no-man's land of "how does this work"
# [04:35] <jcranmer> I still rely on NeilAway thwapping me to know if something is illegal in external API
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# [04:35] <jcranmer> and it took me about two years to figure out that we actually implemented Substring
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# [04:36] <jcranmer> it's Substring(str, start, len), not str.Substring(start, len)
# [04:36] <jcranmer> go figure
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# [04:36] <@ehsan> good times
# [04:37] <@ehsan> time to stop writing patches
# [04:37] <@ehsan> and do laundry \o/
# [04:37] <jcranmer> no, you're supposed to write patches as you do laundry
# [04:37] <reuben> I've never seen anyone so happy about doing laundry
# [04:37] <jcranmer> just time it so you rebuild world when you go to change lodas
# [04:37] <@ehsan> reuben: well, I wrote like 5 patches within the last hour
# [04:37] <philor> oh, my
# [04:38] <@ehsan> figuring out the quality of those patches is left as an exercise for the reader ;)
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# [04:38] <reuben> nice ;)
# [04:38] <@ehsan> jcranmer: oh good idea, time to start a rebuild too!
# [04:38] <philor> do I spy, with my little eye, bustage on a merge from Birch, on things not run on Birch?
# [04:38] <philor> RyanVM: well, at least it made it a week
# [04:39] <RyanVM> nooooo
# [04:39] <philor> ayuh
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# [04:40] <RyanVM> damn, those were green on b2g18 too
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# [04:43] <philor> we should just do T pushes to try, and then merge things DONTBUILD!
# [04:43] <RyanVM> the point of birch was to be independent of inbound
# [04:43] <RyanVM> philor: hush you
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# [04:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/907b6049d995 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 864579: Drop unnecessary const-removing casts from CalcQuirkContainingBlockHeight. r=heycam
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# [04:43] <philor> there's a reek of bustage coming off of it, too
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# [04:44] <philor> though that's hard to tell from the stink of 6-8 new failures a day
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# [04:49] <@ehsan> crap
# [04:49] <@ehsan> KWierso|Home: hope this makes you feel a bit better! https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3ff055568d93
# [04:49] <@ehsan> s/Mode/Make
# [04:49] <@ehsan> I mean
# [04:49] <@ehsan> s/Mode/Move
# [04:49] <@ehsan> what is wrong with me?!
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# [04:50] <KWierso|Home> at least d and v are on the same hand on a qwerty keyboard, c and i are on opposite hands!
# [04:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8bfc9dbdef7 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 862078 - Use an about:config preference to control multiprocess browsing, part 2 (r=felipe)
# [04:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9aa0960e8b22 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 862078 - Use an about:config preference to control multiprocess browsing, part 1 (r=felipe)
# [04:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/019a9c42ce2e - Bill McCloskey - Bug 862078 - Use an about:config preference to control multiprocess browsing, part 3 (r=felipe)
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# [05:17] <@bz> total bugzilla fail
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# [05:59] <@bz> hmm
# [05:59] <@bz> Anyone else running into flash on a hidpi mac build rendering at the wrong size?
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# [06:02] <dougt> bz: i know that we have had some bugs w/ flash and hidpi
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# [06:02] <nrc> bz: known bug, mattwoodrow is on it
# [06:02] <mattwoodrow> waiting on review!
# [06:02] <nrc> from me?
# [06:02] <@bz> ok ,cool
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# [06:03] <mattwoodrow> bz: bug 863922
# [06:03] <mattwoodrow> nrc: no, BenWa
# [06:03] <nrc> ok, phew
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# [06:03] <@roc> ehsan: why would disconnecting a ScriptProcessorNode cause it to stop firing events?
# [06:03] <@roc> in our implementation, I don't think it would
# [06:04] <@ehsan> roc: then we should fix it, I think. what's the use case for continuing to fire events? inspecting a node's output?
# [06:04] <@roc> sure
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# [06:04] <@roc> but in general I don't think a node should just stop working just because it's disconnected
# [06:05] <@roc> that seems magical
# [06:05] <@bz> Anyone here have a debug Windows build to test a crash bug?
# [06:05] <@roc> ehsan: if someone doesn't want to receive events, they can remove the listener. That seems logical.
# [06:06] <@ehsan> roc: I actually think it makes sense, given the processing model for the events... but I could be convinced otherwise
# [06:06] <@ehsan> roc: please comment on the list port?
# [06:06] <@ehsan> *post
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# [06:09] <spohl> does someone here feel comfortable enough with our reftests to answer a question about layout/reftests/bugs/reftest.list? :-)
# [06:09] <@ehsan> spohl: sure
# [06:09] <spohl> ehsan: great!
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# [06:10] <spohl> ehsan: I kicked off a try run, and everything passes but R2 B2G Arm opt: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=35c1b14bd3fe
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# [06:10] <spohl> the log is: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22110362&tree=Try&full=1#error0
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# [06:11] <spohl> ehsan: and from reading the reftest.list, I'm not exactly sure now what's expected and what the test is doing
# [06:11] <spohl> ehsan: is my understanding correct that it's running two xul files, then compares the two and expects them to be different?
# [06:11] <spohl> ehsan: and they fail because the output is identical?
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# [06:12] <@ehsan> spohl: so first of all, it is this line that is failing: v
# [06:12] <@ehsan> gah
# [06:12] <@ehsan> fails-if(Android) != 192767-03.xul 192767-23.xul
# [06:12] <@ehsan> (given the test log)
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# [06:13] <@ehsan> now that means that the test and the reference must differ everywhere except on Android
# [06:13] <@ehsan> which includes b2g
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# [06:14] <spohl> ehsan: okay, that makes sense
# [06:14] <@ehsan> spohl: so yeah, the test fails because the output is identical
# [06:14] <spohl> ehsan: now, is there an easy way to see the two next to each other? or run the tests without a B2G environment?
# [06:14] <@ehsan> spohl: the reftest framework renders the two web pages and then does a pixel comparison on the outputs, fwiw
# [06:15] <@ehsan> spohl: they are identical, what's the point of seeing them next to each other?
# [06:15] <spohl> ehsan: well, I'd look at them before applying my patches. :-)
# [06:15] <@ehsan> spohl: (not sure about how you'd run them outside of the b2g envionment, try #b2g for that)
# [06:15] <@ehsan> spohl: oh well presumably you can run the tests on a b2g build locally
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# [06:16] <@ehsan> but I've never ran b2g tests locally, so I wouldn't know!
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# [06:16] <spohl> ehsan: okay, great! thanks for your help!
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# [06:17] <@ehsan> no worries
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# [06:19] <spohl> roc: ping
# [06:19] <@roc> hi
# [06:19] <spohl> roc: hi, thanks for all the reviews!
# [06:20] <spohl> roc: just wondering, I should resolve the R2 failures for B2G before landing any of the scrollbar patches, is that right?
# [06:20] <@dolske> save 'em up, they're collector items.
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# [08:38] <tbsaunde> has there been some network issues in the past couple hours? tbpl seems to have a lot of connection failed infr issues
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# [09:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/09dd98056595 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 863095 - Don't refresh AboutHomeContent in onResume(). r=lucasr a=bajaj
# [09:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f6fa95cba62b - Brian Nicholson - Bug 859584 - Fix about:home thumbnail issues. r=lucasr, a=bajaj
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# [09:27] <NeilAway> glandium: what's the Makefile fu to link to libdmd.so?
# [09:28] <glandium> NeilAway: no idea
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# [09:40] <firebot> jlongster was last seen 4 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying 'past: ah great, thanks' in #devtools.
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# [09:40] <Cork> anyone around that's good with the inner workings of the updater?
# [09:41] <Cork> there's a user in #firefox that can't get the updater to work on aurora (fedora 17)
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# [09:41] <Cork> we've tested all the normal things and are totally stumped
# [09:42] <NeilAway> glandium: in that case I'll just cargo-cult from http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/toolkit/library/Makefile.in#400
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# [09:42] <glandium> NeilAway: then i'm not sure what you're asking anymore
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# [09:43] <NeilAway> glandium: well, you had no idea before, so this is an improvement!
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# [09:46] <glandium> NeilAway: what is it you're trying to do?
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# [09:47] <NeilAway> glandium: link to mozilla::dmd::ReportOnAlloc
# [09:47] <glandium> NeilAway: from what?
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# [09:47] <NeilAway> glandium: libmork.so
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# [09:48] <NeilAway> jcranmer|away: if you thought Substring was bad, just be glad you never used Left
# [09:49] <gaston> glob: what flags / mimetype do i need to set on a .gz patch for bugzilla to show it directly ?
# [09:50] <glob> gaston, hrm, well you can't get bugzilla to treat it as a patch (no diff, etc), if that's what you're asking
# [09:52] <gaston> oh :(
# [09:53] <glob> gaston, how big is the patch uncompressed?
# [09:53] <gaston> glob: the 3 application/octet-stream on bug 773648
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# [09:54] <glob> gaston, the limit is 5m, those patches are most probably under that
# [09:55] <glob> gaston, the first one (the largest) is 3.4m uncompressed
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# [09:55] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: who knows things about the message filters dialog?
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# [09:59] * gozala anyone knows how one can I get browser element for the given content document ?
# [09:59] <gozala> nsIDOMWindowInternal.frameElement is null
# [10:01] <gaston> glob: i though in one of the 'happy bmo push day' post there was something about ungzip'ing patches on the fly - i was probably mistaken
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# [10:02] <glob> gaston, bugzilla doesn't gunzip anything currently
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# [10:04] <gaston> but if the mimetype is set to application/gzip, firefox can unzip it on the fly ?
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# [10:06] <gozala> ochameau: maybe you know ?
# [10:06] <gozala> I know a way that involves iterating all tabs on the owner window
# [10:06] <gozala> but was hoping to find something better
# [10:07] <ochameau> frameElement sounds good, have you QueryInterface'd the right interface?
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# [10:10] <ochameau> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/base/nsIDOMWindow.idl#151
# [10:10] <gozala> ochameau: it's null
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# [10:11] <ochameau> there is a comment explaining why it is sometimes null
# [10:11] <Ms2ger> OH: "And the more I dig into this code, the more I have to restrain myself from rewriting the entire UI of Thunderbird."
# [10:11] <gozala> ochameau: win.QueryInterface(Ci.nsIDOMWindow).frameElement
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# [10:12] <ewong> Ms2ger: go for it :)
# [10:12] <Ms2ger> jcranmer|away, ^
# [10:12] <gozala> ochameau: yeah it does, but I don't really see how I can make it be non null
# [10:12] <ewong> :D
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# [10:13] <gozala> ochameau: oh never mind apparently we have it
# [10:13] <gozala> https://github.com/mozilla/addon-sdk/blob/master/lib/sdk/tabs/utils.js#L205-L241
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# [10:17] <markh> somewhat similar to the recent "the more I dig into this code, the more I want to rewrite *all* of our code to use the node callback pattern and an async test runner"...
# [10:19] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: iirc rkent is your best bet
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# [10:26] <edmorley> grrr nightly crashing whilst just trying to use tbpl :-(
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# [10:27] <glob> edmorley, sounds like a feature not a bug
# [10:27] <edmorley> ha
# [10:27] <edmorley> true :-)
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# [10:32] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: wasn't there a respin to help address the crashiness?
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# [10:33] <edmorley> KWierso|Home: I'm using the latest sadly
# [10:33] <KWierso|Home> well, I'm out of ideas...
# [10:33] <edmorley> bug 864511
# [10:33] <edmorley> it would seem
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# [10:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5de9e9db23c5 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 848237 - Let IPDL generate runtime aborts for constructor failures in child processes. r=bsmedberg
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# [10:36] <edmorley> on the plus side, tbpl is actually much faster in chrome
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# [10:40] <tbsaunde> edmorley: I guess we need another bench mark then :-)
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# [10:40] <edmorley> :-)
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# [10:41] <edmorley> doourowntoolssucklessinourownproductyet.com
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# [10:43] <Ms2ger> edmorley, how is treeherder? :)
# [10:43] <edmorley> it isn't anywhere close to having a UI
# [10:44] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: what's crashing on tbpl? just viewing the page or specific results doesn't appear to crash for me
# [10:44] <edmorley> s/UI/frontend service/
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# [10:44] <KWierso|Home> I am able to reproduce the crash mentioned in the bug using att.com, though
# [10:44] <edmorley> KWierso|Home: in particular it seemed to crash on space + j alternating quickly (ie mass selecting a bunch of infra failures)
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# [10:45] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: okay, yeah, that crashed
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# [10:49] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: if you flip javascript.options.ion.parallel_compilation and javascript.options.ion.content to 'false' in about:config then restart, do you still crash?
# [10:49] <KWierso|Home> I don't
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# [10:50] <edmorley> KWierso|Home: prevents the crash for me :-)
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# [10:50] <KWierso|Home> and it doesn't crash with the parallel_compilation set to true (though that's probably because .content is still false)
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# [10:51] <ewong> treeherder?
# [10:52] <KWierso|Home> the last march of the Ents
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# [10:52] <ewong> for some reasons.. I should've expected that response.. :P
# [10:52] <ewong> but I didn't..
# [10:52] <edmorley> ewong: tbpl's replacement (early WIP)
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# [10:53] <edmorley> https://github.com/mozilla/treeherder-service
# [10:53] <ewong> oh so tbpl v2 = treeherder?
# [10:53] <edmorley> yup
# [10:53] <edmorley> given that the acronym now has little relevance
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# [10:54] <ewong> edmorley: is it based on jquery?
# [10:54] <Yoric> mak: Any idea of what could cause my segfault?
# [10:54] <edmorley> ewong: only the backend service is being worked on for now
# [10:54] <Yoric> I have tried crazy things, but I'm sure it must be something trivial.
# [10:54] <mak> Yoric: didn't look at it yet, plan to do today
# [10:55] <Yoric> ok
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# [10:55] <Yoric> From what I gather, the issue seems to be that async statements are garbage-collected on the main thread, causing connections to be gc-ed on the main thread, while my connection lives entirely OMT.
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# [10:59] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
# [10:59] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: well, it's 2am over here... good morning! :)
# [10:59] <ewong> edmorley is there some todo list? or do I just read the RSS?
# [10:59] <mak> Yoric: hm, it's possible. The connections so far lived on main-thread
# [11:00] <tbsaunde> how do I need info someoone who is "other" when a bug already has a need info? ?
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# [11:00] <ewong> oh.. it's a django app?
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# [11:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dc7a73fee05 - Jan Beich - Bug 864013 - Add libevent config for BSDs. r=landry
# [11:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3fb99a9ab106 - Jan Beich - Bug 864013 - Let internal libevent use kqueue/kevent with gcc_hidden.h. r=glandium
# [11:01] <KWierso|Home> tbsaunde: there should be another checkbox/select row to add another request?
# [11:02] <tbsaunde> KWierso|Home: yes, but apparently no text entry for their handle
# [11:02] <KWierso|Home> tbsaunde: works for me :\
# [11:02] <edmorley> KWierso|Home: good night!
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# [11:02] <KWierso|Home> I check the checkbox, select 'other' and the input box shows up
# [11:02] <edmorley> ewong: some notes on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Projects/TBPL2 and soon we'll be having a new bugzilla component (must file that bug)
# [11:03] <tbsaunde> KWierso|Home: yeah, wfm for me too now
# [11:03] <KWierso|Home> you're welcome :P
# [11:03] <NeilAway> lol @ Monkey Island
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# [11:08] <ewong> edmorley: so it's a django app.. so I'll need to find out about django..?
# [11:09] <edmorley> if you want to work on the backend, yes
# [11:09] <edmorley> frontend tbc
# [11:10] <edmorley> or more, the treeherder service will have a number of consumers, of which the "tbpl2" UI will be one, and is tbc
# [11:10] <edmorley> in implementation
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# [11:11] <edmorley> the idea being the OrangeFactor app could utilise the treeherder service too
# [11:11] <edmorley> and/or buildfaster etc
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# [11:13] <cviecco_> how can I make a mochitest NOT run in android?
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# [11:17] <ewong> edmorley: thanks for the clarifications.. will read up on django
# [11:18] <edmorley> :-)
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# [11:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5f7ba4e3664f - Blake Kaplan - Bug 850676 - test_mixed_content_blocker_bug803225.html is causing docshell/test/navigation tests to fail. r=tanvi, a=akeybl
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# [11:32] <gfritzsche> cviecco_: something like this with the RightExpression(tm) for android? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/plugins/test/mochitest/Makefile.in#162
# [11:32] <gfritzsche> with ifneq of course
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# [11:35] <cviecco_> gfritzsche: thanks!
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# [11:37] <ferjm> is this a known build error http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2339770 ?
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# [11:44] <gfritzsche> ferjm: why not build off mozilla-central and use mach to build?
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# [11:45] <ferjm> gfritzsche, I need to build inbound. How can I use mach to build?
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# [11:45] <padenot> ferjm: ./mach build
# [11:46] <ferjm> padenot, http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2339779
# [11:46] <padenot> ferjm: #build would know
# [11:47] <ferjm> padenot, thanks!
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# [12:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbf65101089e - Jon Coppeard - Bug 863767 - GC: Rooting for XPCCallContext r=bholley
# [12:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7712c68becc6 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 864046 - GC: Almost the last rooting fixes in XPConnect - part 2 r=bholley
# [12:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa442c0ebfb2 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 863289 - GC: Continue the rooting of XPConnect r=bholley
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# [12:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/fc0b144921d0 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 855236 - Fix JM issue. r=bhackett, a=bajaj
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# [12:11] <Yoric> (I'm wondering how easy bug 862317 would be for a mentoree)
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# [13:24] <gfritzsche> edmorley: bug 864705 has a different crash-signature and belongs in another component
# [13:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed5ef73d646e - Simone Carletti - Bug 859234 - Add AWS Elastic Beanstalk to PSL. r=gerv.
# [13:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45cfff9c781f - Simone Carletti - Bug 863169 - Add GitHub Pages to PSL. r=gerv.
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# [13:25] <gfritzsche> edmorley: you really need to look at the stack in the log for those PL_DHashTable* assertions
# [13:25] <edmorley> gfritzsche: ok
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# [13:25] <edmorley> just filed about 20 intermittents in a row, is a balance between not looking properly at the log and spending half my life with them :-)
# [13:26] <gfritzsche> edmorley: please pass it on to the other sheriffs... that assertion was made fatal last month and is now showing over different components :)
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# [13:27] <gfritzsche> edmorley: right, just noticed it repeatedly :)
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# [13:32] <edmorley> gfritzsche: sorry didn't realise the others had misfiled them prior
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# [13:51] <RyanVM> hub: ping
# [13:51] <RyanVM> or mayhemer
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# [13:52] <hub> RyanVM: saure
# [13:52] <hub> RyanVM: sure
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# [13:52] <hub> RyanVM: wassup?
# [13:53] <RyanVM> hub: hi :)
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# [13:53] <RyanVM> was wondering if bug 840612 part 3 needs b2g18 uplifting or not
# [13:53] <hub> RyanVM: it does not change functionality
# [13:53] <hub> RyanVM: IMHO no
# [13:53] <RyanVM> ok then :)
# [13:53] <RyanVM> thanks
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# [14:01] <jdm> RyanVM: so the leak that shows up on fedora64 on b2g18 does not appear to reproduce on the ubuntu test runners
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# [14:01] <jdm> RyanVM: so I'm stuck with a potential fix that I have no idea how to verify except by landing :/
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# [14:02] <RyanVM> sweet!
# [14:02] <jdm> RyanVM: any other suggestions?
# [14:02] <RyanVM> mind holding off on that for a sec so I can push some other stuff first? :)
# [14:03] <jdm> heh, sure
# [14:03] <RyanVM> i don't think I have a good answer
# [14:03] <RyanVM> short of borrowing a project branch for a day or two
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# [14:03] <RyanVM> but I think it would be faster to just land it with fingers crossed
# [14:03] <RyanVM> but let's only do b2g18
# [14:04] <RyanVM> and push to v101 if it sticks
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# [14:04] <jdm> sounds good to me
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# [14:15] <RyanVM> jdm: how about pushing to b2g18 around 8:30?
# [14:16] <jdm> RyanVM: try specifying a timezone?
# [14:16] <jdm> I'm in berlin this week
# [14:16] <RyanVM> jdm: oh, hah
# [14:16] <RyanVM> ET :)
# [14:16] <jdm> heh
# [14:16] <RyanVM> thought you were in eastern time being up this time of day
# [14:16] <jdm> RyanVM: can do.
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# [14:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/13aa5e23f951 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 864351 - Hold on to a SelfReference for ScriptProcessorNodes to make sure that they won't go away prematurely if they're used as source nodes; r=padenot
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# [14:36] <Pike> RyanVM: should we retrigger the fedora opt build on beta?
# [14:37] <RyanVM> Pike: whoops, sorry. Thought I had already
# [14:37] <RyanVM> done
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# [14:39] <@ted> RyanVM: can you point me at the logs where you saw android reftest failures on sewardj's bug 863264 push?
# [14:39] <@ted> that is disturbing
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# [14:39] <sewardj> ted: hah
# [14:39] <sewardj> ted: i found something interesting
# [14:39] <@ted> oh yeah?
# [14:39] <sewardj> (mo)
# [14:40] <sewardj> ted: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1c26853af07c
# [14:40] <@ted> that's a lot of android reftest orange
# [14:40] <sewardj> ted: that's my original try results. I re-ran "Android 2.2 opt" R1, R2 and R4
# [14:41] <sewardj> since that's the failures
# [14:41] <sewardj> ted: and what is scary is that there are some differences in failures inside those
# [14:41] <@ted> ugh
# [14:41] <@ted> i wonder if this is a compiler bug :-/
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# [14:41] <@ted> --enable-profiling flips on -fno-omit-frame-pointer, which assuredly changes the codegen
# [14:42] <RyanVM> good times
# [14:42] <sewardj> ted: have a look at the R1 cases for table-3.html
# [14:42] <@ted> there are legit failures there
# [14:42] <RyanVM> ted: yep
# [14:42] <@ted> sewardj: yeah, looks like a math bug
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# [14:42] <sewardj> ted: uh, but why would it fail differently on differnent runs, then?
# [14:43] <@ted> that is a great question that i have no idea about
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# [14:44] <sewardj> ted: so .. I have 3 theories: (1) uninit memory, (2) a race, or (3) the linux kernel isn't correctly saving/restoring register state across the signal handler
# [14:44] <sewardj> ted: (1) and (2) we can fix; (3) is really scary
# [14:44] <@ted> ooh
# [14:44] <@ted> wouldn't all sorts of things be broken if #3?
# [14:45] <@ted> so the differing results are interesting
# [14:45] <@ted> looks like in the first run both dimensions of that border are huge
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# [14:45] <@ted> in the second run only the vertical dimension is huge
# [14:45] <sewardj> ted: maybe .. I don't know. Suppose that it's only a very obscure piece of state, like some sticky-saturation flag
# [14:46] <sewardj> ted: RyanVM: but for all 3 cases, I am concerned
# [14:46] <@ted> if we can figure out the code that's testing we could compare codegen
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# [14:47] <sewardj> ted: (yes, what you say about the dimensions, is what I noticed after a while)
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# [14:49] <@ted> i bet dbaron could point us at the code that's breaking here
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# [14:51] <@ted> probably not
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# [14:51] <@ted> might be able to find some other layout person willing to admit to knowing table layout
# [14:51] <@ted> not sure who
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# [14:53] <sewardj> ted: do you know (or know who knows) how to run reftests on Android?
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# [14:53] <@ted> jmaher could definitely help you out there
# [14:53] <sewardj> ted: I tried following the instructions at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android#Reftests but they seem to be out of date
# [14:54] <@ted> :-/
# [14:54] <@ted> i can't recall if i've ever run android reftests
# [14:55] <sewardj> np, I'll wait for jmaher or gbrown
# [14:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a12236dba85 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 862932 - Fix inlineUnsafeSetTypedArrayElement to match other inlined array ops. r=nmatsakis
# [14:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9dff432b7521 - Felix S. Klock II - Date: Wed Apr 17 18:54:12 2013 +0200
# [14:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a391f846c42 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 862921 - Generalize AssertSequentialIsOK logic and improve its message. r=nmatsakis
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# [14:59] <sewardj> ted: fwiw, any other leads you might have on this would be appreciated :)
# [14:59] <sewardj> (the reftest failures i mean)
# [14:59] <jmaher> sewardj: what seems to be the problem?
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# [15:00] <@ted> sewardj: i might also see if glandium has any ideas
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# [15:01] <jmaher> sewardj: if you can pastebin the command and the output, that would help me determine what is going wrong
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# [15:02] <sewardj> jmaher: morning. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2340223
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# [15:03] <sewardj> jmaher: I was following the directions at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android#Reftests
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# [15:05] <glandium> sewardj: sounds like you build with --disable-tests
# [15:05] <sewardj> glandium: you're right! thx.
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# [15:06] <sewardj> glandium: does --enable-tests need to be enabled only for the build that runs on the target, or for both the target and host builds?
# [15:07] <glandium> sewardj: target
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# [15:10] <jmaher> sewardj: do you have --enable-tests in your mozconfig, there is no reason that remote-reftest shouldn't be a valid make target
# [15:11] <glandium> jmaher: you're late to the party :)
# [15:11] <sewardj> :)
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# [15:13] <jmaher> glandium: cool, sewardj if you have other problems after --enable-tests, then bug me
# [15:14] <@ted> glandium: did you see sewardj's actual problem?
# [15:14] <@ted> flipping --enable-profiling makes some android reftests fail
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# [15:14] <jmaher> glandium: I recall dropping the ball on your smoketests the other day- where are you at with that?
# [15:14] <glandium> ted: fail how?
# [15:15] <glandium> jmaher: i'm running manually following the commands in tinderbox logs
# [15:15] <jmaher> glandium: and that works just fine?
# [15:15] <glandium> jmaher: yes
# [15:16] <glandium> which is sad, because i'm trying to having them fail like they do on try
# [15:16] <glandium> i only occasionally get the same as on try, but i then get nothing interesting to debug :(
# [15:16] <jmaher> glandium: odd why it was failing for you with the smoketest commands- I used the smoketests.zip and instructions over and over again while validating some hardware changes
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# [15:16] <jmaher> glandium: are you investingating a shutdown crash?
# [15:17] <glandium> jmaher: no, i startup crash
# [15:17] <glandium> and/or freeze
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# [15:18] <sewardj> glandium: with --enable-profiling, some reftests fail, although running them a second time cause them to fail with different output
# [15:18] <jmaher> glandium: one change is last week we upgraded the hardware to fix a lack of power issue in the chassis for the panda boards- so I fully expect some issues to be harder to reproduce
# [15:18] <jmaher> glandium: also, is this panda or tegra where the bug shows up frequently- just double checking
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# [15:19] <glandium> jmaher: panda is more frequent, tegra is occasional
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# [15:19] <glandium> jmaher: i think i'm after a race condition
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# [15:20] <jmaher> glandium: ok, ping me if you need additional help
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# [15:20] <glandium> jmaher: any idea how i can force the kernel to dump core
# [15:20] <glandium> ?
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# [15:21] <jmaher> not off the top of my head
# [15:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1bc4280c4c0a - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 864606 - Take the gain node's input chunk volume into account when we have automation events for changing the gain value; r=padenot
# [15:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c69d844032e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 864609 - Take the panner node's input chunk volume into account; r=padenot
# [15:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4ab443b1eb1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 864605 - Take the input chunk's volume into account in the nodes that buffer their input; r=padenot
# [15:22] <jmaher> glandium: I recall working with jchen a couple months ago to do this...let me look for my notes
# [15:23] <glandium> jmaher: that might work: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-platform/nifVOvknFsU/6PZ3-tHILs8J
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# [15:24] <jmaher> glandium: yes, this is similar to what we were doing
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# [15:24] <glandium> ah, dalvik resets rlimit
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# [15:26] <jmaher> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824760#c4 <- not complete
# [15:26] <RyanVM> jdm: you can push to b2g18 whenever you want
# [15:26] <jdm> RyanVM: ok, thanks
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# [15:27] <@ted> glandium: the failures are odd, the one is a table layout test getting wrong width/height, but it doesn't consistently fail the same way
# [15:27] <KaiRo> jandem: ping
# [15:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cb33a7459d1f - Axel Hecht - bug 853291, add Polish to b2g gecko l10n, a=tef+, NPOTB, DONTBUILD
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# [15:33] <froydnj> grragh, what other files besides WinBase.h need to be included here?!
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# [15:34] <KaiRo> jandem: have you checked if you can actually download minidumps? just want to make sure the permissions work and you know how to find them :)
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# [15:37] <jandem> KaiRo: yep, I downloaded one but I have to build breakpad to investigate them, i hope I can get to that today
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# [15:38] <ferjm> Hi! any idea about why I am getting this error building inbound http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2340290 ?
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# [15:38] <KaiRo> jandem: ok, good :)
# [15:39] <KaiRo> jandem: didn't know you need breakpad, I thought the MS debugger could work with them right away
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# [15:40] <KaiRo> jandem: of course, on other OSes, I have no clue (well, I have no clue how to actually work with that stuff at all, I just go on what I hear)
# [15:40] <Bas> Kairo: I think it's just some conversion of the minidump :)
# [15:41] <Bas> I tend to get minidumps I can work with directly, not sure if someone converted those for me, probably :)
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# [15:41] <KaiRo> Bas: hmm, no idea on the specifics, I always turn to bsmedberg or ted when someone asks about that stuff ;-)
# [15:42] <Bas> KaiRo: Right, and they always send me my nice and ready minidumps :)
# [15:42] <KaiRo> but I'm all for spreading the knowledge to more devs!
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# [15:42] <glandium> jmaher: i found why it works for nightlies and releases, but not local builds ; commented in the bug
# [15:43] <@bsmedberg> jandem: what OS are you working on?
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# [15:43] <@ted> Bas: the minidumps that breakpad submits are just minidumps
# [15:43] <@ted> on windows they're exactly the same as what you'd get from anything else, we use MinidumpWriteDump
# [15:43] <Bas> ted: Ah, so on Windows you -don't- need to build breakpad to use them?
# [15:43] <@ted> nope
# [15:43] <@ted> just load them in a debugger
# [15:44] <Bas> That's what I thought.
# [15:44] <@ted> for non-windows minidumps, well
# [15:44] <Bas> Kairo: ^^
# [15:44] <@ted> a windows debugger *can* load minidumps from mac/linux, but you're probably gonna have a bad time
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# [15:44] <@ted> in that you can't get debug symbols or anything
# [15:44] <jandem> bsmedberg: OS X. I want to use this tool from ted: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/tmielczarek_mozilla.com/get-minidump-instructions/
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# [15:44] <@ted> jandem: yeah, so, what you want to do is get breakpad from svn, configure && make it, and then make that tool
# [15:44] <@bsmedberg> yeah, you do need breakpad for that
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# [15:45] <jmaher> glandium: cool, thanks
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# [15:45] <jandem> ted, bsmedberg: thax
# [15:45] <jandem> *thx
# [15:45] <RyanVM> Pike: out of curiosity, what localizers are using Aurora/Beta for B2G l10n?
# [15:46] <@ted> Bas: nice benefit of Breakpad choosing minidumps for the file format, the tooling on windows is already great
# [15:46] <@ted> we should get someone to add minidump support to gdb
# [15:46] <@bsmedberg> we should corrupt jimb to make GDB handle minidumps...
# [15:46] <@ted> :)
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# [15:46] <Anarchy> glandium, we finally figured out that build failure 6 hours later, seems we needed to export SHELL for our sandbox in gentoo.
# [15:46] <@ted> there is minidump2core in the breakpad tree
# [15:47] <@ted> but i've never used it
# [15:47] <@ted> and it doesn't work for mac dumps
# [15:47] <KaiRo> Bas: ok, so even though I'm not a dev, what I remembered was close to reality, good to know ;-)
# [15:47] <Pike> RyanVM: we're not having b2g-whatnot l10n repos, so for the few toolkit strings we need, we need to take some repos. I'm adding it to aurora/beta to make sure the strings show up on the release repos in time
# [15:48] <RyanVM> Pike: ah
# [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08a750afe46f - Chris AtLee - Bug 838321: Use b2g manifests for panda/unagi builds. r=rail
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# [15:48] <glandium> Anarchy: what failure?
# [15:48] <KaiRo> ted: hmm, I'd guess that Google would also like gdb handling minidumps, can't we coerce them to do it? ;-)
# [15:49] <@ted> they must just use minidump2core
# [15:49] <@ted> or else they don't care, i don't know
# [15:49] <glandium> KaiRo: i think there's a tool to convert them to code dumps
# [15:49] <Anarchy> my python failure for virtualenv
# [15:49] <glandium> Anarchy: ah
# [15:49] <KaiRo> glandium: yes, ted mentioned that above
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# [15:51] <jandem> roc++
# [15:51] <jandem> (dev.platform mail)
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# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29100949293d - Jim Mathies - Bug 862054 - Get rid of ElementTouchHelper and our custom elementFromPoint function. r=mbrubeck
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# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/854986de615a - Jim Mathies - Bug 864533 - test helper addTab should use pageShowPromise. r=sfoster
# [15:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31d99490ea46 - Jim Mathies - Bug 862054 - Move translateToTopLevelWindow to Util. r=bbondy
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# [16:09] <VirajSinha_> felipe: hey
# [16:09] <mbrubeck> shu: commented in the bug
# [16:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb028a52ffe3 - Joe Drew - Bug 855923 - Set the multithreaded image decoding thread pool's idle thread limit in addition to the regular thread limit. r=seth
# [16:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1706d6e0514b - Marco Bonardo - Bug 748894 - Move the bookmark star button outside of the location bar.
# [16:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4002c6963c4e - Marco Bonardo - Bug 748894 follow-up - increase menu-button dropmarker clickable area.
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# [16:12] <jwir3> mbrubeck: Is there a callback (in platform) for a "viewport change" event?
# [16:12] <froydnj> wtf, minwinbase.h, why don't you know about DWORD?
# [16:12] <mbrubeck> jwir3: I'm not sure... there's always the "resize" event on the DOMWindow...
# [16:13] <mbrubeck> Didn't *I* ask *you* this question once? ;)
# [16:13] <jwir3> mbrubeck: lol. It's likely. Things fly in and out of my brain in record numbers. ;)
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# [16:15] <mkaply> Where do resource:///modules URLs resolve to?
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# [16:18] <Yoric> mkaply: I would start searching here: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/netwerk/build/nsNetModule.cpp#l1034
# [16:19] <Yoric> mkaply: And end up here: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/netwerk/protocol/res/nsResProtocolHandler.cpp
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# [16:22] <glandium> mkaply: $GRE_DIR/omni.ja!/modules/
# [16:22] <glandium> mkaply: errrm, ^ is resource://gre/modules/
# [16:23] <glandium> mkaply: resource:///modules/ is $APP_DIR/omni.ja!/modules/
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# [16:23] <glandium> mkaply: where APP_DIR, for firefox, would be $INSTALL_DIR/browser/
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# [16:32] <mkaply2> glandium: so by moving browser in FF21, did anything change about resource URLs?
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# [16:32] <glandium> mkaply2: no
# [16:32] <glandium> mkaply2: well, yes, something changed: resource:/// and resource://gre/ are not the same thing anymore
# [16:32] <jimm_> there was a lot of code that made bad assumptions about where resource:// pointed to that had to be touched up.
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# [16:35] <Gijs> glandium: so resource:/// and resource://app/ are still the same thing, apparently? Which bug made that change?
# [16:35] <mkaply2> We're trying to figure out if we need to document something for extension developers
# [16:36] <glandium> Gijs: resource:/// and resource://app/ have always been the same thing
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# [16:36] <Gijs> well right, but now resource://gre/ is not. So where/when did that change? :)
# [16:37] <glandium> Gijs: well, it was the case for firefox, but not for xulrunner applications
# [16:37] <glandium> Gijs: 755724
# [16:37] <Gijs> Great, thanks! Add-on authors are definitely running into this (eg. bug 844517 )
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# [16:38] <Gijs> (I'll resolve that now that I know how/why this change was made)
# [16:39] <mkaply2> So some of these URLs.
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# [16:39] <mkaply2> will they work in 21 but not in 20?
# [16:39] <glandium> Gijs: you can note on that bug that the canonical location was not in resource://gre/ before, but that the url happened to work
# [16:39] <mkaply2> Is there a way to use a URL that works in both?
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# [16:39] <glandium> mkaply2: the point is: if you're using the right resource: locations (the ones that work with >= 21), then they work with < 21
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# [16:41] <glandium> mkaply2: note, however, that some things sometimes move from resource:/// to resource://gre/ (usually because they start as desktop stuff, and end up moving to gre because they need to be shared with mobile)
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# [16:56] <sewardj> jmaher: ok, it got further that time, but still failed
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# [16:57] <sewardj> jmaher: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2340492
# [16:57] <jmaher> sewardj: :(, can you pastebin
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# [16:58] <sewardj> jmaher: line 102 of that pastebin, perhaps?
# [16:58] <jmaher> sewardj: is your host and device on the same network?
# [16:58] <sewardj> jmaher: yes, but the host has a firewall.
# [16:59] <sewardj> jmaher: may be the problem?
# [16:59] <jmaher> sewardj: hmm, that could be the problem
# [16:59] <sewardj> 2.119 is the host
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# [16:59] <jmaher> is the firewall blocking inbound to port 8888?, maybe turn it off or add an exception
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# [16:59] <sewardj> jmaher: I just need 8888 inbound open, and no other, correct?
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# [17:00] <jmaher> sewardj: for the most part, I believe some tests open a different port here and there
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# [17:00] <jmaher> sewardj: but for reftests there are no other tools requiring other ports (ssl, websockets, etc..)
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# [17:01] <sewardj> jmaher: 8888 tcp, or udp?
# [17:01] <sewardj> tcp i guess
# [17:01] <jmaher> tcp
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# [17:05] <sewardj> jmaher: it claims to actually be running tests now (up to 135 of 9251) although I don't see any drawing activity on the phone's screen
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# [17:06] <sewardj> jmaher: is that expected?
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# [17:06] <jmaher> sewardj: that is expected
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# [17:07] <sewardj> jmaher: shame, I liked the flashing lights and pretty colours of it when I tried on desktop.
# [17:07] <jmaher> yeah, mobile isn't as sexy
# [17:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61711e1aab0c - Seth Fowler - Bug 854287 - Don't send partial invalidations for images which have already been decoded. r=joe
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# [17:09] <sewardj> jmaher: is there a way to control the command the test framework uses to start fennec on the target?
# [17:09] <sewardj> jmaher: I'd really like to try valgrinding mochitests on fennec
# [17:09] <jmaher> sewardj: you could hack the harness a bit...what are you trying to change?
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# [17:10] <@dbaron> so something seems to have broken facebook in debug builds in the past few days, but it still works in nightlies
# [17:11] <jmaher> sewardj: how would you run valgrind on mobile?
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# [17:12] <sewardj> jmaher: (one other thing ..) for every test, I get a line like this in the android log:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2340516 -- is that normal?
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# [17:12] <jmaher> sewardj: yeah, I believe we get those on desktop as well
# [17:15] <sewardj> jmaher: normally I'd start Fennec on V like this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2340547
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# [17:16] <jmaher> sewardj: I assume you are connected with usb and running tests via adb ?
# [17:16] <sewardj> jmaher: yes
# [17:16] <sewardj> jmaher: and the phone has 2GB of swap space :)
# [17:16] <jmaher> so the first step 'setprop ...' can be done independent of the harness
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# [17:16] <sewardj> jmaher: yes
# [17:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa0d00ea2c5f - Sam Foster - Bug 864706 - Fix calls to CrossSlide.Handle's cancel to provide event param. r=jimm
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# [17:19] <RyanVM> jdm: not looking too good :(
# [17:20] <jdm> raargh
# [17:20] <jdm> agreen
# [17:20] <jdm> *agreed
# [17:21] <RyanVM> jdm: test_browserElement_oop_SetVisibleFrames.html appears to be the guilty party, if that helps
# [17:21] <jdm> RyanVM: why do you say that?
# [17:22] <jdm> I was having difficulty figuring out if it was SetVisibleFrames or SetVisibleFrames2
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# [17:22] <RyanVM> jdm: so sayeth the leak analyzer
# [17:22] <jdm> well, that's something then
# [17:22] <jdm> thanks
# [17:22] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getLeakAnalysis.php?id=22139516
# [17:22] <RyanVM> jdm: also had a test_browserElement_oop_SetVisible.html | [SimpleTest.finish()] this test already called finish!
# [17:23] <jmaher> sewardj: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2340581
# [17:23] <jdm> yeah, saw that one
# [17:23] <jdm> RyanVM: shall I back it out, or will you?
# [17:23] <RyanVM> jdm: go for it
# [17:23] <RyanVM> jdm: also, don't know if this helps or not - http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2340582
# [17:24] <RyanVM> that's from the full log
# [17:24] <jdm> thanks
# [17:24] <sewardj> jmaher: thanks! .. what's the significance of the change from"'-W" to "-S" ?
# [17:24] <jmaher> sewardj: there is a cleaner way to do the env thing, but that requires editing the command line- no need to had makefile targes
# [17:24] <RyanVM> jdm: finally, you have birch bustage :P
# [17:25] <jmaher> sewardj: no idea, I just changed it so that it matched your command
# [17:25] <jmaher> let me look it up
# [17:25] <jdm> effffffffffff
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# [17:25] <jdm> I can't wait until I don't have to work on b2g18 any longer
# [17:26] <RyanVM> heh
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# [17:27] <jmaher> sewardj: http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html, -W wait for launch to complete, -S Force stop the target app before starting the activity.
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# [17:27] <jdm> RyanVM: build fix in one moment
# [17:27] <sewardj> jmaher: ah, sound like we need both then. Anyway, thanks for the tip.
# [17:28] <jdm> RyanVM: how can I qbackout multiple changesets?
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# [17:28] <RyanVM> jdm: qbackout -e -s -r revX:revY
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# [17:29] <jmaher> sewardj: yeah, might be worthwhile adding a valgrind option to the mix at sometime since the changes are minimal
# [17:29] <jmaher> sewardj: but we would need to automatically do the setprop on the device; and make sure it works with sutagent or errors out if not on adb
# [17:29] <sewardj> jmaher: will probably require increasing timeout values though. It certainly does require that on desktop.
# [17:30] <jmaher> sewardj: I can only imagine
# [17:30] <@bsmedberg> what's the current way to run xpcshell tests?
# [17:30] <@bsmedberg> is it still `make -C dir xpcshell-tests` ?
# [17:30] <@ted> that will work
# [17:30] <@ted> or ./mach xpcshell-tests dir
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# [17:31] <@bsmedberg> ted: that only works if I have a mozconfig, right?
# [17:31] <darkowlzz> ted, xpcshell-test or tests?
# [17:31] <@ted> jmaher: IIRC the desktop harnesses just disable timeouts if you specify a debugger (which is how you use valgrind)
# [17:31] <@ted> bsmedberg: yes, it needs to know the objdir
# [17:31] <@ted> darkowlzz: i...don't nkow
# [17:31] <@bsmedberg> or does mach from an objdir find the srcdir?
# [17:31] <@ted> bsmedberg: although if you put mach in your $PATH it should work from the objdir
# [17:31] <jmaher> ted: yeah, this is currently using a make target and via remote
# [17:31] * @bsmedberg rather dislikes both mozconfigs and mach
# [17:31] <@ted> i <3 mach
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# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: ../src/configure --enable-debug --disable-optimize && make -j10
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# [17:32] <darkowlzz> ted, it's |xpcshell-test|
# [17:32] <@ted> mozconfigs suck but we don't have anything that sucks significantly less yet
# [17:32] <darkowlzz> it works for me
# [17:32] <@ted> darkowlzz: ah, thx
# [17:32] <jmaher> bsmedberg :)
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# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: my main issue is that I typically keep 2 or 3 objdirs per srcdir
# [17:32] <@bsmedberg> and mozconfigs/mach don't deal with that very well, in general
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# [17:33] <glandium> bsmedberg: i have a single mozconfig that allows me to switch objdirs based on env variables
# [17:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd3be96f70fe - Sam Foster - Bug 864762 - Fix bad CrossSlide check which is breaking existing tiles tests. r=jimm
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# [17:33] <@ted> wonder if we could just add something to mach to inform it what your objdir is
# [17:34] <@ted> and then subsequent commands keep that state
# [17:34] <jmaher> ted: yeah, that is a good idea- I would imagine bsmedberg is not alone or a 1%'er with >1 objdir
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# [17:34] <@ted> i usually have a few, but i just swap my MOZCONFIG env var and deal with it
# [17:34] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I've been considering what a good system would look like
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# [17:38] <jcranmer> I have one objdir for Firefox, one for Thunderbird, and another one I play with sometimes when I do random tests
# [17:38] <jcranmer> although, as long as m-c/c-c are separate, I technically have only 1 per srcdir
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# [17:40] <Pike> I usually have different options for the different objdirs anyway, so I keep a mozconfig per settings/objdir, and symlink the one I'm working on to .mozconfig
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# [17:41] <mikeratcliffe> Can the appcache be used more than once on a single domain?
# [17:42] <mikeratcliffe> I have a failing mochitest because the cached event is not firing.
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# [17:42] <mikeratcliffe> An earlier test allows example.com to store offline files
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# [17:43] <mikeratcliffe> But then the cached event of the second test is not triggered.
# [17:43] <@bsmedberg> argh. Plugin xpcshell tests are failing for me right now
# [17:44] <@bsmedberg> because ("@mozilla.org/gnome-gconf-service;1" in Cc) is false on linux?
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# [17:44] <NeilAway> jcranmer: that didn't work at one point, because the m-c configure would pick up both the c-c and the m-c mozconfig, although I think that might be fixed nowadays
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# [17:44] <glandium> bsmedberg: use run-mozilla.sh
# [17:45] <jcranmer> NeilAway: I don't have enough distinct things nowadays
# [17:45] <RyanVM> jdm: keep trying
# [17:45] <jcranmer> in the configures
# [17:45] <glandium> bsmedberg: (assuming you're on linux)
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# [17:46] <jdm> oh dear
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# [17:46] <jdm> the dangers of making slight changes before pushing
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# [17:49] <sankha93> bz: wanted to talk about bug 864766
# [17:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7a68bd7148c - Tom Schuster - Bug 862834 - Root mozJSComponentLoader. r=bholley,terrence
# [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf0ce90f9f19 - Tom Schuster - Bug 856477 - Root rest of XPComponents. r=bholley,terrence
# [17:50] <NeilAway> bsmedberg: iirc if it's recentish then it will have gio and not gconf
# [17:50] <@bz> sankha93: ok
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# [17:51] <sankha93> bz: what do you mean by the content disposition headers?
# [17:51] <@bsmedberg> NeilAway: aha, thanks
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# [17:52] <@bz> sankha93: https://www.google.com/search?q=content+disposition+header
# [17:52] <@bz> sankha93: first hit, at least for me
# [17:52] <Ms2ger> Morning
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# [17:52] <@bsmedberg> glandium/ted: MOZ_ENABLE_GCONF depends on the local system config...
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# [17:54] <sankha94> and sorry about the test case. we can put any pdf file in the same directory by that and use it.
# [17:54] <Yoric> sankha94: Are you the brother of sankha93?
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# [17:54] <Waldo> Yoric: the old, wiser version ;-)
# [17:55] <sankha94> oh no! my brother just died! :P
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# [17:55] * Waldo notes what he said would not be inconsistent with that ;-)
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# [17:57] <Ms2ger> bz, a victim?
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# [17:57] <@bz> ms2ger: I have this patch that needs review....
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# [17:57] <@bz> ms2ger: or will have soon, rather
# [17:57] <Ms2ger> Noooo
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# [17:57] <@bz> ms2ger: it's changing all the WrapObject to take a Handle for the scope. ;)
# [17:58] <Ms2ger> bz, hmm... baku? :)
# [17:58] <@bz> ms2ger: I _was_ going to check with you before dumping it on you, which is what this is. ;)
# [17:58] <@bz> ms2ger: lol
# [17:58] <baku> heheh
# [17:59] <glob> how do i show the profiler? the docs say "the addon will appear in the top right toolbar" however i cannot find it :( i swear it used to be in the add-on bar
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# [17:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34d00e20ff2d - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 864518 - HTMLMediaElement::mAudioChannelAgent not declared to CC, r=bz
# [17:59] * @bz has it right next to the download manager button
# [17:59] <Ms2ger> bz, how thorough do you want the review to be?
# [17:59] <@bz> ms2ger: seriously, I could also try smaug
# [18:00] <@ted> bsmedberg: :-/
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# [18:00] <@bz> ms2ger: the parts that need thorough are in separate diffs
# [18:00] <@bz> ms2ger: a thorough review of some perl regexps might not be a bad idea, though
# [18:00] <@smaug> reviews?
# [18:00] <@bz> ms2ger: since they wrote a large chunk of the patch
# [18:00] <Ms2ger> bz, that wouldn't be me, then :)
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# [18:00] <@smaug> I'm sure Ms2ger wants to review more :)
# [18:00] <@bz> ms2ger: oh c'mon
# [18:00] <@bz> Ms2ger: they're just regexps. ;)
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# [18:00] <BenWa> glob: It in the top right now
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# [18:00] <Ms2ger> bz, all I do to regexps is r- ;)
# [18:00] <BenWa> a globe icon
# [18:01] <@smaug> bz: what is the patch about?
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# [18:01] <Ms2ger> <bz> ms2ger: it's changing all the WrapObject to take a Handle for the scope. ;)
# [18:01] <glob> bz, BenWa: hrm, thanks. i try the pre-release build
# [18:01] <glob> ah
# [18:02] <Ms2ger> bz, seriously though, I can do it if you link me to a build log on try I can grep for warnings :)
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# [18:02] <@bz> Ms2ger: hmm. I can do that for sure
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# [18:04] <firebot> Check-in:
# [18:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c26b1674a6e - Daniel Holbert - Bug 862947: Use cb height instead of width for vertical margins & padding on flex items, even when they're a reflow root (e.g. for measuring reflow states). r=mats
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# [18:16] <jcranmer> is it just me
# [18:16] <jcranmer> or is our dependency-tracking stuff broken if we delete a source file?
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# [18:24] <cviecco> hub thank you
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# [18:31] <Ms2ger> jcranmer, I have heard of dep issues when deleting an xpidl file, at least
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# [18:31] <jcranmer> deleting a .idl, .h. and .cpp
# [18:31] <jcranmer> I ran into all three of them
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# [18:33] <vd> Ms2ger: hi
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# [18:33] <Ms2ger> Hi vd
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# [18:34] <vd> Ms2ger: I ran an experimental push in Try: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c622ed50b499
# [18:34] <mjrosenb> #define pagesize_2pow((size_t) 12)
# [18:34] <mjrosenb> ugh
# [18:34] <mjrosenb> can we *not* do that?
# [18:35] <vd> Ms2ger: but some failures occur, which do not seem related to my patch
# [18:35] <Ms2ger> Looking
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# [18:38] <vd> Ms2ger: perfectly I would rerun the failed tests with unmodified tree to check that they will also fail there, but TryChooser is not that flexible and I think running *all* the tests again on an unmodified tree is an overkill
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# [18:39] <Ms2ger> vd, that probably wouldn't help, it looks like they're all intermittent failures
# [18:39] <vd> hmm, yes, one of them is a timeout, maybe the machine was hogged
# [18:40] <vd> Ms2ger: so what would you advise in this case?
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# [18:40] <Ms2ger> Push
# [18:40] <vd> :)
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# [18:41] <vd> actually, would be nice to be able to click in the red/orange numbers and request a rerun of that test in particular
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# [18:42] <Ms2ger> You can retrigger the test run
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# [18:43] <vd> How?
# [18:44] <vd> the whole test run or just the orange numbers?
# [18:44] <jdm> vd: the + button in the bottom left
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# [18:44] <jdm> the orange numbers
# [18:44] <jdm> if you select a suite and press the + button, that suite will retrigger
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# [18:46] <RattyAway> Standard8/glandium: ok so the bug in Bug 864379 is slightly different in that the generated manifest file uses requestedExecutionLevel level='asInvoker
# [18:46] <RattyAway> while the source dir manifest file uses requestedExecutionLevel level="requireAdministrator" thus the error is:
# [18:46] <RattyAway> c:/t1/hg/comm-central/mail/components/search/wsenable/WSEnable.exe.manifest : manifest authoring error c1010001: Values of attribute "level" not equal in different manifest snippets.
# [18:46] <RattyAway> So our problem is not whitespace but a mismatch in the two manifests
# [18:47] <vd> jdm: stupid question... where in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c622ed50b499 is the + button in the bottom left?
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# [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25d6b99f826f - Geoff Brown - Bug 863752 - Avoid TypeError in remotexpcshelltests.py; r=jmaher DONTBUILD
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# [18:48] <sfink> vd: click on the orange failed suite first
# [18:48] <jdm> vd: select orange ubuntu M3. look in the bottom left, same line as "Ubuntu VM 12.04 try opt mochitest-3 [testfailed"
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# [18:49] <vd> ah!
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# [18:49] <vd> I used to click on that with the mouse wheel so it opened in a new browser tab without those fancy things...
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# [18:50] <vd> sfink, jdm: thanks! :)
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# [18:50] <mjrosenb> in dxr, is there a way to blame the current line, opening the hg.mozill.org web-address for it?
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# [18:51] <vd> Ms2ger: I set the checkin-needed flag for Bug 860827
# [18:52] <Ms2ger> Sounds good
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# [18:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/986c25861d1f - Bobby Holley - Bug 860494 - Check for native properties before checking named children on XOWs. r=bz
# [18:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/936188849dfa - Bobby Holley - Bug 860494 - Clarify the semantics of XrayTraits::resolveOwnProperty. r=bz
# [18:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89701e65d892 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860494 - Make resolveNativeProperty a virtual instance method in XrayTraits like resolveOwnProperty. r=bz
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# [18:56] <glandium> bsmedberg: yeah, please file a bug
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# [19:09] <we11ington> Does Steven Michaud hang out on this channel?
# [19:09] <Ms2ger> !seen smichaud
# [19:09] <firebot> smichaud was last seen 49 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 26 minutes and 44 seconds ago,
# [19:09] <Ms2ger> Not much.
# [19:09] <we11ington> Hm...
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# [19:10] <we11ington> Having some trouble with Apple, they seem to love documenting their developer library in the same way that I love being stabbed (that is to say, not at all)
# [19:10] <we11ington> The double-tap gesture is completely undocumented in Lion
# [19:10] <we11ington> But somehow goes through magnifyWithEvent, which is shared by pinch
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# [19:11] <we11ington> Can't figure out how it discriminates between the two--subtype *might* be it, but I've seen both subtype 16 and subtype 22 for tap
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# [19:12] <@ted> mm, the facebook WebP experiment feedback is interesting
# [19:12] <@ted> broke users who expected they could right click -> save image and have it actually work
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# [19:14] <Gijs> ted: heh. That is interesting indeed.
# [19:14] <Gijs> ted: wonder if we could workaround and export to jpg or something?
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# [19:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c0e77a706f4 - Wes Johnston - Bug 853456 - Walk up DOM tree to find target of links. r=mfinkle
# [19:14] <Gijs> (should we implement it? Do we? I don't actually know)
# [19:14] <@ted> possibly, although with lossy formats that sucks
# [19:14] <@ted> because you're going to recompress
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# [19:15] <Ms2ger> Gijs, we don't and probably shouldn't
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# [19:17] <Gijs> ted: right, I don't think it should be the only option, but if it was the default in the "save as" dialog that would be subtle enough to Just Work for the average user, and if people really wanted webp they could select it?
# [19:17] <@ted> it's plausible, certainly
# [19:17] <@ted> in any event, it's good data
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# [19:20] <glandium> ted: users would even send them by email
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# [19:20] <@ted> i've seen people do all kinds of weird things
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# [19:21] <@ted> my dad saves meme images from facebook and then forwards them in emails or even text messages
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# [19:21] <@ted> he and other people i know save images off to use as wallpaper/phone images etc
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# [19:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/42f859a219d6 - Benoit Girard - Bug 788022 - Add support for dalvik profiling. r=snorp,kats
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# [19:23] <glandium> ted: btw, i'm amazed phone makers haven't made that as annoying to do as using your own music for ring tones
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# [19:24] <RyanVM> jdm: ping
# [19:24] <yzen> Yoric: i think you might like my new revision for bug 862570 :)
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# [19:24] <@bz> why did save image not work?
# [19:24] <jdm> RyanVM: pong
# [19:24] <@bz> or is it rather that you got an image no one could show?
# [19:24] <jdm> oh man
# [19:24] <jdm> RyanVM: backing out
# [19:24] <jdm> so sorry
# [19:24] <firebot> Check-in:
# [19:24] <RyanVM> jdm: hang on a sec
# [19:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d3cc6cc5e67d - Benoit Jacob - Bug 862523 - Android: blocklist the STAGEFRIGHT feature on the following Hardware's: antares, endeavoru, harmony, picasso, picasso_e, ventana - r=joe,doublec a=bajaj
# [19:24] <RyanVM> there's more to that story that I'm curious about
# [19:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/41627ad5cdf0 - Chris Double - Bug 847837 - Add some Samsung Gingerbread devices to stagefright blocklist - r=bjacob, a=bajaj
# [19:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/20a6950ebc7e - Chris Double - Bug 845729 - Blocklist some Samsung ICS qcom devices for stagefright decoding - r=bjacob a=bajaj
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/352a49f9dcc5 - Chris Double - Bug 845734 - Blocklist Sony JB devices for Stagefright decoding - r=bjacob a=bajaj
# [19:25] <RyanVM> jdm: we actually saw these same failures last night when we merged birch over to m-c (and then m-c to inbound)
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# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/350e566d81dc - Benoit Jacob - Bug 863843 - Android: blocklist STAGEFRIGHT on rk30board - r=joedrew a=bajaj
# [19:25] <RyanVM> they went away on the next push on m-c
# [19:25] <RyanVM> and a couple pushes later on inbound
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# [19:25] <jdm> RyanVM: I'll run the test locally, hold on
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# [19:25] <RyanVM> jdm: but the birch merge yesterday was bug 863769 and 863770
# [19:26] <RyanVM> jdm: it certainly seems that your pushes are the culprit, but the way the failures seem to come and go is odd
# [19:26] <glandium> bz: the latter
# [19:27] <jdm> RyanVM: I crash locally too
# [19:27] <RyanVM> yay! (I think)
# [19:27] <jdm> better than not crashing :)
# [19:27] <RyanVM> jdm: if you can debug and fix, I'd prefer that to a backout personally
# [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8077e8edd44 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 744836: Adds null checks for mEventTarget in nsTimerImpl. r=bsmedberg
# [19:27] <jdm> RyanVM: huh, ok
# [19:27] <RyanVM> since I'm not convinced that the underlying issue already exists on m-c/inbound anyway
# [19:27] <RyanVM> not unconvinced*
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# [19:28] <@ted> glandium: seriously
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# [19:29] <glandium> bz: "It turns out that Facebook users routinely do things like copy image URLs and save images locally. The use of WebP substantially defeated both of these use cases"
# [19:29] <glandium> bz: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/chicken-meets-egg-with-facebook-chrome-webp-support/
# [19:29] <@ted> glandium: it always makes me sad to see my mother-in-law print the low-res facebook copy of a photo that i took with my DSLR :-(
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# [19:29] <@ted> bz: the latter, AIUI, they get a .webp they can't do anything with
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# [19:30] <Ms2ger> bz, (this is for Chrome users, fwiw)
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# [19:31] <jdm> RyanVM: this is a brand new failure from my changes and couldn't have happened before.
# [19:31] <catlee> RyanVM: so, I think you should be able to cancel builds and have them be clobbered for you now
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# [19:32] <RyanVM> catlee: niiiiice
# [19:32] <jdm> RyanVM: however, the fix is an addition of seven characters!
# [19:32] <RyanVM> jdm: from your changes today or yesterday?
# [19:32] <firebot> Check-in:
# [19:32] <jdm> RyanVM: today.
# [19:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/950e522a7937 - Scott Johnson - Bug 836568: Add a delay between when the user finishes a pinch gesture and when the reflow happens for reflow-on-zoom to prevent buildup of successive reflow events.
# [19:32] <firebot> [r=kats]
# [19:32] <RyanVM> jdm: odd
# [19:33] <RyanVM> jdm: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=f59811fe0fb3
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# [19:33] <jdm> weird
# [19:33] <catlee> RyanVM: so give it a spin, and let me know
# [19:33] <catlee> RyanVM: then we can enable it on tbpl again
# [19:33] <RyanVM> though I guess that is a different signature
# [19:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef755a443f3c - Wes Johnston - Bug 835456 - Cleanup whitespace. r=mfinkle
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# [19:34] <RyanVM> catlee: hmm, how to test? Not always trivial to find the next build on a given tree on a given slave
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# [19:38] <bjacob> Waldo: MOZ_CRASH is implemented by dereferencing NULL, but isn't that undefined behavior?
# [19:39] <Waldo> bjacob: kinda sorta yes, but as it's a volatile write compilers won't optimize it out, and in practice we get behavior we want/like
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# [19:40] <@bsmedberg> there is no defined behavior that crashes reliably
# [19:40] <we11ington> masayuki: ping
# [19:40] <@bsmedberg> it would indeed be an odd thing to add to a language spec, in general
# [19:40] <bjacob> Waldo: i dont get how volatile would make a difference to how that's undefined behavior
# [19:40] <jcranmer> well, compiler crash instrinsics
# [19:40] <jcranmer> bjacob: it doesn't
# [19:40] <jcranmer> bjacob: it just makes compilers less likely to optimize it
# [19:41] <bjacob> bsmedberg: dereferencing 0x123 would be at least as good and would avoid the specific issues with derefing 0x0 being undefined
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# [19:41] <jcranmer> bjacob: no, that's still undefined
# [19:41] <Waldo> bjacob: C++ specifies that the observable behavior of a program is its sequence of calls to external-enough functions and its writes to volatile memory
# [19:41] <bjacob> jcranmer: ??
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# [19:42] <bjacob> Waldo: but before it would write to volatile memory, it has to deref the compile-time-constant 0x0 pointer, so it may never get to the point where it matters that it's volatile mem
# [19:43] <Waldo> bjacob: maybe; in practice this works enough, and I don't think anyone cares too much about purity of essence so long as compilers do what we want :-)
# [19:43] <bjacob> ok ok :)
# [19:43] <jcranmer> bjacob: in C++11, it's undefined if you have a pointer whose value was converted from an integer that wasn't manipulated via very specific rules
# [19:43] <Ms2ger> Waldo, clearly bjacob does :)
# [19:43] <bjacob> jcranmer: ah
# [19:44] <jcranmer> the intent is probably aliasing rule constraints
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# [19:45] <bjacob> Waldo: this would be the orthodoxic use of volatile here:
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# [19:45] <bjacob> int* volatile p = 0x0;
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# [19:45] <bjacob> #define moz_crash *p = 0;
# [19:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7526aecfa5b - Chris Peterson - Bug 863804 - Fix -Wunused-but-set-variable warnings in NunboxAssembler.h. r=dvander
# [19:46] <bjacob> can we get rid of firebot?
# [19:46] <@smaug> imelven: ping
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# [19:46] <RyanVM> bholley++ (comment in bug 765192)
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# [19:49] <imelven> smaug: pong
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# [19:50] <jcranmer> bjacob: oh, ew, the legal requirements are more confusing
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# [19:50] <jcranmer> it's basically implementation-defined if the results are undefined in C++11
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# [19:52] <bjacob> jcranmer: lol
# [19:52] <jcranmer> (the implementation can choose to make using not-safely-derived pointer values well-defined)
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# [19:53] <@ted> bjacob: in general, it seems less important what the spec says about it and more important what result we get in the compilers we use
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# [19:53] <@ted> certainly a future compiler could generate code that doesn't do what we want
# [19:54] <@ted> but i suspect we'd notice
# [19:54] <@smaug> imelven: how well did you check the tests for bug 838692?
# [19:54] <jcranmer> this is one of those things where a compiler "optimizing" away the dereference is likely to be considered a fault in the compiler
# [19:55] <jcranmer> in particular, since following the spec to the letter would break anyone accessing memory-mapped I/O registers
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# [19:57] <Jesse> bjacob: do you want firebot to stop reporting checkins in this channel?
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# [19:57] <khuey> why would we want that?
# [19:57] <imelven> smaug: i've looked at them a few times but would certainly be happy to review them again if you like :)
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# [19:58] <@smaug> imelven: oh, I move the review to you :)
# [19:58] <@smaug> that sounds like a great idea to me
# [19:58] <dholbert> I like that mach prints out "libxul.so" (instead of printing out nothing) when it's linking libxul now.
# [19:58] <dholbert> ++ to whoever made that happen
# [19:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de74564a8bf3 - Vasil Dimov - Bug 860827 - Add unit tests for ReadSysFile(). r=dhylands, r=BenWa
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# [19:59] <dholbert> Ms2ger++
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# [19:59] <imelven> smaug: works for me !
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# [19:59] <@smaug> imelven: thanks!
# [19:59] <gps> dholbert: the entire build system does that now
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# [19:59] <dholbert> gps, nice
# [20:00] <@smaug> imelven: and sorry about the delay
# [20:00] <imelven> smaug: no problem, thanks very much for the review of the code patch
# [20:00] <bjacob> Jesse: i do
# [20:00] <Ms2ger> dholbert, :)
# [20:00] <imelven> smaug: no worries at all re delay
# [20:00] <@smaug> imelven: the API is just insane. Really old stuff
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# [20:01] <imelven> smaug: yeah, i'm grateful bob came in and cleaned up my original work there and really got to grips with that stuff
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# [20:01] <imelven> still have to figure out this whole scripted sandbox loads thing, going to take a crack at that in a bit i think
# [20:01] <@smaug> imelven: sorry that I didn't catch the problem in the earlier patch
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# [20:05] <mbrubeck> shu: Good news: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=864637#c4
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# [20:09] <imelven> smaug: no worries, i missed it (and a few other things) too :)
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# [20:15] <philor> mmm, looks like the Win debug browser-chrome apocalypse is now, second one that took more than 2 hours to run and got killed today
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# [20:18] <vladan1> blassey: where can I see the Android chrome-hang data?
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# [20:18] <lassey> vladan: https://intranet.mozilla.org/Mobile/ANR
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# [20:22] <vladan> lassey: thanks. neat graph
# [20:22] <lassey> vladan: it is jchen's work btw
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# [20:23] <vladan> yeah i talked to him when he was researching how desktop chrome-hangs work
# [20:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24644ba49ce5 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 863725 - Fix an IonSpew format string typo in Baseline IC. r=jandem
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# [20:24] <RyanVM> bholley: my hero
# [20:26] <philor> so, who broke b2g on inbound?
# [20:27] <vd> bsmedberg: ping
# [20:27] <philor> profiler/TableTicker.cpp, hello BenWa
# [20:28] <Callek|buildduty> masayuki: ping
# [20:28] <mwu> looks like it assumed ANDROID only affects android
# [20:28] <shu> mbrubeck: cool, thanks
# [20:28] <philor> how silly!
# [20:28] <mwu> srsly
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# [20:29] <BenWa> *sigh*
# [20:29] <khuey> pity the fools
# [20:29] <philor> I thought everyone knew to use #ifdef ANDROID_FOR_REALZ_NOT_JUST_FAKEZ
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# [20:29] <mwu> we need s/ANDROID/TASTES_LIKE_ANDROID/
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# [20:30] <BenWa> philor: Pushing bustage fix if you don't mind
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# [20:32] <RattyAway> I_CANT_BELIEVE_ITS_NOT_ANDROID
# [20:32] <@dolske> s/_ANDROID/_BURNING/
# [20:32] <reuben> bz: "For example a typical clang+ccache build of the tree with fatal warnings will fail unless you jump through deoptimize-ccache hoops" what do you mean? I've been building with Clang trunk and cache for months without any problems
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# [20:33] <@bz> reuben: As have I, with problems
# [20:33] <@bz> reuben: Which clang?
# [20:34] <@bz> reuben: and are you using CCACHE_CPP2 ?
# [20:34] <reuben> bz: right now? 3.3 (trunk 179322), plus 3.1.9, no special configuration for ccache
# [20:34] <reuben> well, other than CXXFLAGS="-fcolor-diagnostics"
# [20:35] <@bz> reuben: interesting. I have a 3.2 clang
# [20:35] <@bz> reuben: and this is a known clang+ccache issue....
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# [20:35] <reuben> bz: I was building with clang 3.1 and 3.2 when that was trunk. I think I remember the ccache problem you're mentioning, but it was fixed a long time ago
# [20:35] <@bz> reuben: I'm using clang rev 163716
# [20:36] <@bz> reuben: which most certainly has the problem
# [20:36] <@bz> reuben: as would the stock clang on MacOS
# [20:36] <@bz> reuben: which is what we support people building with
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# [20:37] <reuben> bz: hm, I thought it could be fixed by updating ccache alone, but I see bug comments of people hitting this on 3.1.6. :|
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# [20:37] <@bz> reuben: uh-huh
# [20:38] <@bz> reuben: seriously, I've lost enough of my life to this mess to know what I'm talking about. :(
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# [20:38] <reuben> bz: you should try a more recent Clang
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# [20:38] <@bz> er...
# [20:38] <@bz> reuben: I should, sure
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# [20:39] <@bz> reuben: need to take the time to go pull and compile it
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# [20:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22b4a153b3c5 - Benoit Girard - Bug 788022 - Bustage fix for ANDROID define on a CLOSED TREE. r=bustage
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# [20:42] <@bsmedberg> vd: pong
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# [20:42] <@dbaron> gps, regarding your comment in the platform meeting
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# [20:42] <@dbaron> gps, presumably we know what 21 looked like when it was on aurora, though
# [20:42] <@dbaron> gps, (I said that in #planning, but you weren't there.)
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# [20:43] <vd> bsmedberg: what logger would you suggest to use in ipc/chromium/src/base/process_util_linux.cc? Wrt Bug 828285
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# [20:44] <Gijs> dbaron: by the way, do you have time to look at bug 852420 and give your opinion there? :)
# [20:44] <vd> bsmedberg: actually, first of all, would you like to review further versions of the patch for that bug?
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# [20:44] <gps> dbaron: indeed we do
# [20:44] <vd> :)
# [20:44] <@bsmedberg> vd: I'm sorry, I really don't know that code, it's been years
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# [20:44] <@bsmedberg> vd: I'm hoping bent is the owner now, since cjones has moved on
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# [20:45] <vd> bsmedberg: ok
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# [20:45] <vd> !seen bent
# [20:45] <firebot> bent was last seen 4 days, 10 hours, 35 minutes and 27 seconds ago, changing nick to bent|8th.
# [20:45] <khuey> vd: he's on PTO
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# [20:46] <vd> khuey: when is he coming back?
# [20:46] <@dbaron> Gijs, done, sorry
# [20:46] <@gavin> I would guess on the 8th
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# [20:47] <Gijs> dbaron: no problem, thanks!
# [20:47] <@dbaron> "bent|8th" could have meant "8th floor"
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# [20:48] <khuey> vd: thursday iirc
# [20:48] <@dbaron> which was very relevant at the Firefox OS week last week
# [20:48] <vd> khuey: ok, thanks!
# [20:48] <reuben> that's what it meant, yes
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# [20:49] <vd> or it could have meant 'back on the 8th month (August)"
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# [20:50] <BenWa> gps: Got a moment? I wanted to discuss my changes to the build to dual link libxul.so and libxul-unit.so
# [20:50] <gps> BenWa: sure. want to do it in #build?
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# [21:01] <Yoric> Out of curiosity: does anyone know if we can use mozTCPSocket from a chrome worker?
# [21:01] <Yoric> (and if not, what it would take to make this possible)
# [21:01] <Yoric> mounir: Given that you're my WebAPI expert :) ^
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# [21:02] <Ms2ger> Yoric, pretty sure you can't
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# [21:02] <Yoric> Do you know how far we are?
# [21:02] <squib> you can definitely use mozTCPSocket in web workers
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> It's on navigator
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# [21:06] <@gavin> Ms2ger: you can also get to it via nsIDOMTCPSocket though
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# [21:06] <@gavin> (not that that helps in workers)
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# [21:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8247ed6d1316 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 862606 - Shift around some marking for brain transplants (r=bhackett,a=bajaj)
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# [21:13] <djvj> RyanVM: ping
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# [21:13] <RyanVM> djvj: pong
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# [21:14] <djvj> RyanVM: I'm prepping to coordinate with jonco on relanding the argsobj patch
# [21:14] <djvj> RyanVM: he wrote up the fix for the nightly crashiness
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# [21:15] <djvj> RyanVM: I have the existing argsobj patches rebased to tip, but it's orange on a particular test, which should be fixed with jonco's patch too
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# [21:15] <djvj> RyanVM: (not sure why the orange didn't show up before, but it's showing up now after rebasing to new tip)
# [21:15] <RyanVM> djvj: I assume both are landing at the same time?
# [21:15] <djvj> RyanVM: Yeah, I'm gonna send him my patch and have him land both in succession
# [21:16] <RyanVM> I don't suppose you've pushed the two together to Try to confirm the orange is fixed?
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# [21:17] <djvj> RyanVM: not yet, but I will (just finished confirming the reason for the orange). If that's go, the approach should be ok?
# [21:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a8232d88dc4 - Bill McCloskey - Bug 860885 - Turn off Chromium IPC [debug] spew (r=glandium)
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# [21:18] <RyanVM> I don't see any issues with it offhand
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# [21:18] <djvj> cool, just making sure
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# [21:19] <Ms2ger> billm++
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# [21:21] <gwagner> jdm: ping
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# [21:21] <jdm> gwagner: pong
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# [21:21] <gwagner> jdm: hey! so for the twitter bug. I see that we create the nsDOMStorageItems over and over again in nsDOMStoragePersistentDB::GetAllKeys when I reload the tab but we never free them
# [21:22] <jdm> yes, I saw your message.
# [21:22] <mounir> Yoric: for workers, you should speak to sicking or bent
# [21:22] <jdm> it inspired me to figure out the chain of command.
# [21:22] <Yoric> mounir: thanks
# [21:22] <mounir> Yoric: but for regular web workers, you can't access much stuff
# [21:22] <gwagner> jdm: do you know this code better?
# [21:22] <Yoric> mounir: I'm thinking chrome workers.
# [21:22] <jdm> gwagner: yes, I wrote it all.
# [21:22] <gwagner> heh
# [21:23] <gwagner> so why do we have to reload it all the time in a parent-child environment?
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# [21:23] <jdm> ok, so that I don't have a good answer to
# [21:23] <jdm> mayhemer would be better for that
# [21:23] <mounir> Yoric: I understood that but I'm not sure what that exactly changes
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# [21:24] <Yoric> mounir: Not sure.
# [21:24] <mounir> Yoric: I don't know if you can magically get some objects in chrome workers but last I've heard we don't have CC in workers
# [21:24] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [21:24] <mounir> Yoric: I believe khuey is working on that
# [21:24] <gwagner> jdm: ok. can you point me to the place where we should free the items that are created in the GetAllKeys function?
# [21:24] <Yoric> Yeah, that's also what I understand.
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# [21:24] <gwagner> jdm: should this get freed based on the timer as well for the PersistentDB entries?
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# [21:25] <khuey> "working"
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# [21:25] <jdm> I did the IPC stuff; the existing DOM storage code was written by honza
# [21:25] <Yoric> sicking: ping
# [21:25] <sicking> Yoric: pong
# [21:26] <Ms2ger> khuey, clearly we shouldn't have you work on anything else ;)
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# [21:26] <Yoric> sicking: Do you know if mozTCPSocket is available to chrome workers – or otherwise how much work it would be to make it available?
# [21:26] <jdm> gwagner: ok, so the reason we cache everything again and against is that the cache is per DOMStorageImpl instance
# [21:26] <gwagner> jdm: yeah I saw that. maybe caching in the child might solve some of our problems
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# [21:26] <jdm> gwagner: and that is per-IPDL actor, which is per child DOMStorage instance, which is per-window
# [21:26] <jdm> so when we reload, we have a new window and new actor
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> Yoric, I don't know if we can have JS-implemented APIs exposed to workers
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> Yoric, I would assume not
# [21:27] <jdm> gwagner: I think the simplest win here will be figuring out why the old actors are not dying
# [21:27] <Yoric> Ms2ger: mozTCPSocket is JS-implemented?
# [21:27] <jdm> Yoric: yes
# [21:27] <Yoric> Ms2ger: I had no idea.
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# [21:27] <sicking> Yoric: it's not available to workers. It's a fair amount of work to make it available to workers I think since we currently don't have any other JS-implemented APIs in workers
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# [21:27] <Yoric> And I assume it calls XPCOM behind the scenes, does it?
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> Yoric, yes
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# [21:28] <Yoric> Ok, thanks.
# [21:28] <gwagner> jdm: yeah that solves half of our problem :) the 2nd part is that we have to allocate 20MB in order to transfer a 2MB string :) but lets focus on the "leak" first
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# [21:28] <sicking> jdm: but why aren't we getting the same DOMStorageImpl in the parent every time?
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> Yoric, if we moved it to mccr8's webidl-based stuff... I dunno how far along this is
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# [21:28] <Yoric> So basically if we ever want trivial socket primitives on chrome workers, the simplest way is probably to reimplement this from libc/kernel.dll, is it?
# [21:28] <jdm> sicking: because this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-b2g18/source/dom/src/storage/StorageParent.cpp#20
# [21:28] <jdm> I don't recall if there's a good reason for that
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# [21:28] <jdm> maybe because we couldn't serialize principals back then
# [21:29] <sicking> yeah, i think that's what we could try to fix
# [21:29] <sicking> i.e. make us get the same DOMStorage each time
# [21:30] <jdm> it's worth a shot
# [21:30] <jdm> unfortunately it's harder for sessionstorage
# [21:30] <jdm> nsDocShell::GetSessionStorageForPrincipal(nsIPrincipal* aPrincipal,
# [21:30] <jdm> we don't have docshells in the parent
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# [21:33] <sicking> sessionstorage doesn't matter here i don't think
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# [21:33] <sicking> i don't think sessionstorage involves the parent at all
# [21:34] <sicking> jdm: it's probably just kept in the child and goes away when the child does
# [21:34] <jdm> sicking: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-b2g18/source/dom/src/storage/StorageChild.cpp#91
# [21:34] <jdm> the code disagrees
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# [21:35] <sicking> i wonder if that does anything useful, or is called at all?
# [21:35] <jdm> sicking: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-b2g18/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#2489
# [21:35] <jdm> this is how we create session storages
# [21:35] <sicking> in any case, sessionstorage is less likely to contain as large amounts of data I would guess. There's no point in caching stuff there since it's just for the session
# [21:36] <jdm> that seems fair to me
# [21:36] <jdm> we can special case the behaviour in the parent, since we pass a session flag
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# [21:48] <RyanVM> heh
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# [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/956830365233 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 863025 - Fix nsUniversalDetector overlooking the UTF-16 BOM. r=smontagu, a=bajaj
# [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/a1b7febaccf0 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 860180 - Prefer UTF-16BE/LE to UTF-16. r=hsivonen, a=bajaj
# [22:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8df81abcb329 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 860180 - Regression tests. r=hsivonen, a=bajaj
# [22:05] <dhylands> RyanVM: ping
# [22:05] <firebot> Check-in:
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# [22:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/faafe91695d9 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 418615 - Neuter the code which tries to reframe existing plugin instances when navigator.plugins.refresh(true) is called. Instead, only scan for new plugins,
# [22:05] <RyanVM> dhylands: pong
# [22:05] <firebot> unload unused plugins. The DOM code will continue to refresh the current page which calls navigator.plugins.refresh(true). r=jschoenick sr=bz
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# [22:06] <dhylands> RyanVM: Looks like bug 860934 is red on b2g18. Can you back it out and I'll do branch specific patches for both b2g18 and 1.0.1?
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# [22:07] <philor> we just need an "Intermittent * in webspeech/*" bug
# [22:07] <RyanVM> dhylands: yeppers :)
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# [22:07] <RyanVM> philor: if tbpl could handle wildcards, I'd consider it
# [22:08] <RyanVM> dhylands: do we like b2g18 yet? :)
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# [22:09] <dhylands> RyanVM: ?
# [22:09] <RyanVM> dhylands: going to wait to push the backout until I can see what jdm's push does
# [22:09] <RyanVM> dhylands: just the massive divergence between them and m-c
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# [22:09] <jdm> it's like a playground
# [22:09] <jdm> full of broken glass
# [22:09] <jdm> masquerading as play equipment
# [22:09] <dhylands> :)
# [22:10] <jdm> you glance at it and go "oh, my kid will enjoy that!"
# [22:10] <jdm> then you have to clean up the blood afterwards
# [22:10] <RyanVM> jdm: if your push has orange, I'll handle the backout
# [22:10] <jdm> thanks
# [22:10] <jdm> I'll hopefully be off getting dinner
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# [22:15] <RyanVM> jdm.... o.O
# [22:15] <jdm> RyanVM: :OOO
# [22:16] <RyanVM> jdm *blink*
# [22:16] <jdm> don't jinx it
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# [22:16] <RyanVM> jdm: *if* this sticks, is any of the extra cleanup you did upliftable to m-c as well?
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# [22:16] <jdm> RyanVM: it should be upliftable, but it shouldn't really be necessary :/
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# [22:17] <RyanVM> maybe i'm oversimplifying, but cleaner = better IMO
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# [22:21] <RyanVM> jdm: K, I'm satisfied
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# [22:21] <jdm> omg
# [22:21] <RyanVM> good show
# [22:22] <jdm> what a glorious day this has suddenly become
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# [22:22] <jdm> jlebar|busy: go go go go go
# [22:22] <RyanVM> lol
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# [22:23] <jlebar|busy> jdm: Would you mind posting a diff of the changes you had to make somewhere? I'd like to at least look overr them to see if they suggest that we have a real leak in b2g18.
# [22:23] <jdm> jlebar|busy: sure
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# [22:24] <RyanVM> jdm: jlebar: thanks. I still stand by cleaner = better unless you say otherwise :)
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# [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9844a2fe0f46 - John Schoenick - Bug 854082 - Cleanup plugin frame ownership, prevent losing our frame due to re-entrance. r=bsmedberg
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# [22:24] <jlebar|busy> RyanVM: We should sync the trees if we can; that's the "cleaner" option, right?
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# [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f1599c9c715 - John Schoenick - Bug 854082 - Test. r=bsmedberg
# [22:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/557f1cfca69c - John Schoenick - Bug 863792 - Handle re-entry during plugin instantiation. r=josh
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# [22:25] <RyanVM> jlebar|busy: as I understand things, yes
# [22:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e03057b8c8ca - John Schoenick - Bug 854082 - Attribute bug 621618 assertions to the proper test. r=gfritzsche
# [22:25] <RyanVM> johns: second time's the charm!
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# [22:27] <jlebar|busy> This seems to be what gmail is telling me.
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# [22:36] <johns> RyanVM: I did a full try push this time! :-P
# [22:36] <RyanVM> woowoo 8)
# [22:36] <johns> RyanVM: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=dbfaf4b211bb So if this breaks things it's officially a conspiracy
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# [22:39] <RyanVM> speaking of which
# [22:39] <RyanVM> oh jdm.... https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22153430&tree=Mozilla-B2g18
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# [22:43] <RyanVM> jdm: let's do some retriggers to get a feel for what the frequency is
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# [22:43] <jdm> ok
# [22:43] <@bz> RyanVM: 5.4GHz is good
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# [22:45] <@dolske> star faster.
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# [22:48] <johns> What is this new |[debug] event| spam and how do I kill it :(
# [22:48] <johns> it drowns out all other debug info
# [22:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f31e6ad99dfe - Scott Johnson - Bug 857324: Make column set reflow continue without balancing rather than restarting if computed height is exceeded. [r=mats]
# [22:48] <jlebar|busy> RyanVM: red on your backout
# [22:49] <RyanVM> jlebar|busy: yeah, clang sucks
# [22:49] <RyanVM> what can you do
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# [22:50] <mccr8> johns: bug 860885
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# [22:50] <mccr8> fixed on inbound
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# [22:51] <RyanVM> actually, that looks like a builder issue
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# [22:52] <jdm> johns: it's being killed
# [22:52] <jdm> bug 860885
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# [23:09] <Waldo> does the fixing of bug 658934 at all mean we might be able to start canceling busted builds on inbound, to conserve resources?
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# [23:10] <RyanVM> jdm: jlebar|busy: looking pretty frequent on OSX :(
# [23:10] <RyanVM> Waldo: that's the idea, yes
# [23:10] <jdm> sigh
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# [23:10] <jdm> oh dear
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# [23:11] <Waldo> RyanVM: how soon? ;-)
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# [23:13] <RyanVM> Waldo: got something in mind to try it out on? ;)
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# [23:13] <Waldo> actually no, just would be nice for closures to be shorter :-)
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# [23:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/649497c7a2e9 - Luke Wagner - Bug 864872 - OdinMonkey: protect all the code pages on Windows (r=sstangl)
# [23:14] <RyanVM> Waldo: it'll definitely make life easier for me
# [23:14] <Waldo> \o/
# [23:14] <RyanVM> being able to just cancel all running and pending jobs will be nice
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# [23:14] <RyanVM> jdm: sorry, it's going to have to go
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# [23:15] <jdm> yeah, figured
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# [23:15] <RyanVM> looks like the leaks don't happen on 10.8
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# [23:15] <RyanVM> interesting
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# [23:15] <RyanVM> faster hardware, though
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# [23:17] <RyanVM> philor: my mind is already going to losing test coverage in a pileup situation
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# [23:17] <RyanVM> for pure bustage, fine
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# [23:17] <RyanVM> but orange, probably a bad idea
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# [23:17] <RyanVM> but we also wouldn't keep inbound closed waiting for busted jobs to finish either
# [23:18] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, there's that too, but I was thinking of the way that you think you're killing a pending job ten pushes down, and you actually kill where it was running coalesced at the tip, on your bockout
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# [23:19] <RyanVM> ah, also a very valid point
# [23:19] <RyanVM> so lock, kill, backout
# [23:19] <philor> yep :)
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# [23:20] <mbrubeck> catlee++
# [23:21] <RyanVM> k, need to finish filing these and then off I go
# [23:21] <catlee> eh?
# [23:21] <mbrubeck> catlee: for bug 658934
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# [23:22] <johns> Is coalescing borked on inbound? It looks like every push has a full set going right now
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# [23:22] <@smaug> new[] is infallible, right?
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# [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/812da2a6d2f8 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 857661 - Don't let the user pin a blank top site url. r=wesj
# [23:24] <rillian> smaug: mozalloc.h declares it as a moz_(x)malloc() wrapper the same as new
# [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c62f4690d4d3 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 858994 - Migrate bad pinned bookmark URIs. r=rnewman
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# [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5b63beb5249 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 858994 - Wrap user-entered pinned site search/URLs in a special URI. r=rnewman
# [23:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cd4b8d02649 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 847834 - Avoid NPEs in BrowserApp.onActivityResult(). r=wesj
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# [23:25] <jlebar|busy> sicking: ping
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# [23:26] <rillian> smaug: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Infallible_memory_allocation also says new[] is infallible
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# [23:26] <@smaug> rillian: thanks
# [23:26] <RyanVM> jdm: on the bright side, hopefully you can at least debug on Try this time...
# [23:26] <sicking> jlebar|busy: pong
# [23:26] * @smaug uses new[] *very* rarely
# [23:26] <jdm> hmm, good point
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# [23:30] <jlebar|busy> sicking: hey.
# [23:30] <jlebar|busy> sicking: For bug 861441...
# [23:31] <jlebar|busy> sicking: I'm not actually sure what we want to do.
# [23:31] <jlebar|busy> sicking: While the frame is expecting a system message, I can give it higher priority, no problem
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# [23:31] <jlebar|busy> sicking: But what we do with telephony is, if the comm app then acquires the CPU or "high-priority" wake lock, we continue to elevate the process's priority.
# [23:32] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Do we want to let arbitrary app content elevate its priority in this way?
# [23:32] <jlebar|busy> I guess it's not a lot different than playing a silent ogg.
# [23:33] <sicking> jlebar|busy: this is just for CPU priority, right? Not OOM priority?
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# [23:33] <jlebar|busy> sicking: I think we care about OOM priority more, actually.
# [23:33] <sicking> jlebar|busy: oh!
# [23:33] <jlebar|busy> sicking: e.g. SMS app is getting oomed by other bg processes.
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# [23:35] <jlebar|busy> sicking: I guess it's not a problem if all we want to do is elevate the priority to the same as your MP3 player, since any process can get that priority by plaing a silent ogg.
# [23:35] <sicking> jlebar|busy: so what problem(s) are you specifically trying to solve? The fact that the dialer can get killed before it comes up? Or are you trying to make us close the SMS app later if we're running low on memory?
# [23:35] <jlebar|busy> sicking: I'm trying to fix the problem of the SMS app (or other, similar apps) getting OOMed before it shows a notification to the user.
# [23:35] <jlebar|busy> sicking: because it's launched with BACKGROUND priority (oom and cpu)
# [23:36] <jlebar|busy> the dialer getting killed seems to be fixed.
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# [23:37] <sicking> jlebar|busy: ah, so when we're sending a system message to an app, it can get killed before it is fully processed because it opens in the background?
# [23:37] <jlebar|busy> sicking: yes.
# [23:38] <sicking> jlebar|busy: tricky… I've been wishing that we had a way to "acc" a system message. In order to deal with applications crashing before they fully process it
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# [23:39] <sicking> jlebar|busy: but that's obviously a bit out
# [23:39] <jlebar|busy> sicking: We'd need to make the messages idempotent for that to work
# [23:39] <jlebar|busy> sicking: which is something I think we should try to figure out, but yeah, hard.
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# [23:39] <sicking> jlebar|busy: idempotent?
# [23:39] <jlebar|busy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence
# [23:39] <jlebar|busy> Perhaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence#Computer_science_meaning
# [23:40] <jlebar|busy> "it means that an operation can be repeated or retried as often as necessary without causing unintended effects."
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# [23:41] <sicking> jlebar|busy: ah, you mean that system message handlers need to be able to deal with getting the same message twice?
# [23:41] <sicking> s/twice/multiple times/
# [23:41] <jlebar|busy> sicking: yes, even if they have an ack, they do.
# [23:41] <jlebar|busy> because they could crash right before sending the ack.
# [23:41] <sicking> jlebar|busy: yup
# [23:41] <sicking> jlebar|busy: agreed
# [23:41] <sicking> jlebar|busy: anyway, back to now...
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# [23:42] <sicking> jlebar|busy: my best idea off the top of my head is to up their priority for a period of time
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# [23:43] <sicking> jlebar|busy: which is sort of crappy.. But since we don't have an ack we don't know when they are done processing a message
# [23:43] <jlebar|busy> sicking: I think we should just say that if you're an app holding the CPU or "high-priority" wake lock, you get background_perceivable priority, just like the mp3 player.
# [23:43] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Now that I think about it.
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# [23:43] <jlebar|busy> sicking: which is the same as you could accomplish by playing a silent ogg
# [23:43] <jlebar|busy> If we want to go higher priority, we can worry about that later.
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# [23:44] <sicking> jlebar|busy: unless we want to give even higher priority than "semivisible" (or whatever we're calling the playing-audio-level)
# [23:45] <jlebar|busy> sicking: right; if we need to do that, we'll need to be more clever.
# [23:45] <jlebar|busy> sicking: I'm afraid of timers, because you can starve a timer, and then I'm going to get a blocking bug "SMS not received when system under load".
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# [23:46] <sicking> jlebar|busy: i think that if you're just upping the level for a period of time, it's ok if we're upping above playing-audio
# [23:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/295b11e2ee6f - Jim Mathies - Bug 863748 - Add subframe text input selection tests. r=rsilveira
# [23:46] <jlebar|busy> sicking: yeah, but why would we do that? To prevent OOMs?
# [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d51a9c4ebf3a - Jim Mathies - Bug 863748 - Add subframe text area selection tests. r=rsilveira
# [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ad359f31b90 - Jim Mathies - Bug 864761 - Remove old debug build check from two tests. r=mbrubeck
# [23:46] <sicking> jlebar|busy: i guess an app could artificially keep it high by scheduling repeating alarms every 2 seconds, but i'm not too worried about that
# [23:46] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Because if we're relying on that to prevent OOMs, then if you starve the process, then you'll OOM.
# [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4dab39869e57 - Jim Mathies - Bug 863748 - Move some misc. test files down in ./res, and disable metro plugin tests due to timeouts. r=mbrubeck
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# [23:47] <sicking> jlebar|busy: i didn't follow that
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# [23:47] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Why might we want to elevate above background perceivable priority?
# [23:47] <jlebar|busy> sicking: presumably so that a bg_perceivable process doesn't oom the SMS app.
# [23:47] <jlebar|busy> sicking: But suppose we use a timer, and go down to bg_perceivable after a timeout.
# [23:48] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Then we have the following bug: SMS messages are not received when you're playing music and scrolling around a lot, so the CPU is busy in the fg app.
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# [23:48] <jlebar|busy> sicking: We already have a very similar bug in telephony.
# [23:48] <jlebar|busy> It has been eating me alive.
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# [23:49] <sicking> jlebar|busy: yeah, the ack seems to be the only way to make it fully reliable
# [23:49] <jlebar|busy> sicking: You've convinced me what's the right thing here.
# [23:49] <sicking> jlebar|busy: at which point upping to above bg_perceivable is a bit more scary
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# [23:50] <sicking> jlebar|busy: do you think that even if we make the SMS/telephony apps grab a "high-priority" lock immediately, that there's a risk that it would get timeout'ed before it had time to grab it?
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# [23:50] <sicking> jlebar|busy: i guess starting gecko and loading the page can take quite a while
# [23:50] <djvj> is it possible to turn off Clang auto-vectorization for a single file in the build?
# [23:51] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Don't worry about it; I already made that work.
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# [23:51] <sicking> jlebar|busy: i'm confused then :) What's your plan?
# [23:52] <Cork> i get http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2341491 when trying to compile firefox, any clue on how to fix it?
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# [23:54] <jlebar|busy> sicking: Essentially we already have an ack, and we don't lower the priority until the ack comes. The ack happens when the event that delivers the system message completes.
# [23:54] <sicking> jlebar|busy: perfect!
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# [23:56] <aceman> shorlander: hi, is there a style for a disabled <colorpicker> in toolkit?
# [23:56] <jlebar|busy> sicking: thanks
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