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# [00:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75648b269697 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 703564 - Improve the crash reporter. r=mfinkle
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# [00:15] <luisbg> who do I have to ask to get permission/writes to add pages in the Mozilla Wiki?
# [00:15] <luisbg> s/writes/write priviledges
# [00:16] <kbrosnan> which wiki?
# [00:16] <luisbg> kbrosnan, https://wiki.mozilla.org/
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# [00:17] <luisbg> specifically the https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/Imagelib/ area
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# [00:17] <luisbg> if that matters, which I think it doesn't
# [00:17] <kbrosnan> should work if you've verified your account
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# [00:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e085a3192ff - Geoff Brown - Bug 844239 - Specify character encoding in robocop test files; r=jmaher DONTBUILD
# [00:18] <luisbg> kbrosnan, silly me. I missed the "Create" button
# [00:19] <kbrosnan> every once in a while that gets me to...I want to edit this page...where is edit...doh
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# [00:21] <luisbg> kbrosnan, yes, I was looking for "Edit" and reacted too quickly after not finding it
# [00:21] <luisbg> kbrosnan, thanks for the help :)
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# [00:24] <BenWa> what's nsinstall exactly?
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# [00:25] <Mossop> These days a python script that "installs" a file into the object directory, where installs can mean symlinking or copying depending on the platform. I think it also sets file permissions too
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# [00:27] <BenWa> Mossop: I'm looking at testing/mochitest/Makefile.in and it seems to mix in NSINSTALL to create directories and tar for a recursive copy. I don't understand why this is so convoluted
# [00:27] <BenWa> stage-package target
# [00:28] <Mossop> nsinstall didn't used to support recursive copying IIRC, and on non-windows I think it won't recursively copy, just symlink the directory
# [00:28] <Mossop> Which can be bad in some cases
# [00:28] <Mossop> But yes, the various ways of copying stuff around during the build is quite a mess, gps is working on it some
# [00:28] <@smaug> mconnor: something wrong with Sync atm?
# [00:28] <Mook_as> and on windows tar was more stable than msys cp, something about fake inode numbers or something
# [00:29] <mconnor> smaug: there's been intermittent issues, yeah
# [00:29] <Mook_as> (obviously, these days it's in-process in pymake so it doesn't matter)
# [00:29] <@smaug> k
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# [00:29] <BenWa> ohh interesting. I'll ping him for the best way to package now
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# [00:29] <gps> Mossop: I think you overestimate my abilities :)
# [00:30] <BenWa> gps: Alright so packaging gtest looks non trivial
# [00:30] <Mossop> gps: I said "some" ;)
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# [00:31] <BenWa> libxul-unit is being put into dist/bin so I think it will go into the main package we ship?
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# [00:32] <Mossop> Only if you add it to package-manifest
# [00:32] <BenWa> gps: I'm looking at adding stage-package to testing/gtest/Makefile.in but not sure if I should copy testing/mochitest since it looks hacky and possibly uses outdated workarounds
# [00:32] <BenWa> Mossop: Ohh you're right. Ok that makes it easier
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# [00:33] <BenWa> So I need stage-package to put it into the testing package and then somehow have it go to the right place on extraction?
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# [00:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/659fa167a6bb - Brian Hackett - Bug 862103 - Split GuardShapeOrType into GuardShape and GuardObjectType, r=dvander.
# [00:36] <gps> BenWa: all packaging is likely equally parts hacky
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# [00:37] <BenWa> gps: Should I just replicate these hacks?
# [00:37] <gps> BenWa: if you are referring to testsuite-targets.mk, yes, replicate the hacks
# [00:37] <BenWa> gps: I mean the install and using tar to copy files
# [00:38] <gps> we've already suffered death by a thousand cuts. another one won't hurt too much
# [00:38] <gps> just copy what's used in the file, even though it's complete crap
# [00:39] <BenWa> gps: Ok and for the actual packaging. libxul-unit will go in PKG_STATE/bin. How does the extracting happen? Will bin get extracted to the builds's bin/ dir when running automatically?
# [00:39] <gps> we should just ship rsync.exe in MozillaBuild and not worry about this mess
# [00:39] <gps> if there's already stuff in that directory, it gets extracted automatically
# [00:39] <BenWa> Ok, sounds simple for now since we don't have any test files
# [00:40] <gps> the problem is when adding new directories - the automation configs sometimes need to be told what directories to extract
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# [00:40] <BenWa> Then it's going to be a high burden for the first person adding a file that a test is referring to
# [00:40] <gps> again, I wish "the configs lived in the tree" applied here
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# [00:41] <BenWa> Alright, thanks for the help everyone
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# [00:41] <gps> and this is a reason why changes to automation are very lethargic
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# [00:41] <BenWa> Yes. I was hoping I could make my stuff a bit more modern :)
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# [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f839f4b2f32 - Garrett Robinson - Bug 863878 - The CSP logging from bug 821877 should go to the new Security Pane in the Web Console. r=bzbarsky r=ddahl
# [00:43] <gps> BenWa: you can start with packaging everything needed to run your tests in automation. ensure that mozharness, etc simply calls a script with the minimum number of arguments
# [00:43] <BenWa> right now it's only libxul-unit and depends.list.gtest in dist/bin
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# [00:44] <@smaug> mconnor: curious, why do we show the Sync error to users? or does that happen only in Nightlies?
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# [00:45] <gps> smaug: it happens when there is a server failure
# [00:45] <mconnor> smaug: the error is shown when we return something unexpected
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# [00:45] <gps> or when it has failed from a client error 7+ days
# [00:45] <mconnor> smaug: if we return the right bits to indicate maintainance, no message is shown until it's been a while
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# [00:46] <mconnor> not sure why that's not happening now
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# [00:48] <@smaug> mconnor: well, is such error bad enough so that it is ok to disturb user
# [00:48] <gps> it shouldn't. we actively removed visible errors a while ago
# [00:48] <gps> I think there is 1 remaining one. there's a bug open
# [00:49] <@smaug> well, the Sync error certainly is visible
# [00:49] <@smaug> have got it now perhaps 20 times
# [00:49] <@smaug> today
# [00:50] <gps> smaug: pastebin the log to #services-dev and someone will tell you what's up
# [00:50] <mconnor> smaug: odd, I haven't at all, but sync's failed that many times for me. maybe you've been failing for a very long time?
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# [00:50] <gps> your server probably just died today
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# [00:51] <@smaug> gps: remind me how to get the log
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# [00:51] <gps> smaug: about:sync-log
# [00:51] <@smaug> thanks
# [00:51] <harth> Is there any common reason for getting "is is not defined" in a mochitest?
# [00:51] <harth> Getting it only on debug builds: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e3c4b40757e7
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# [00:52] <gps> it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is
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# [00:52] <wg9s> gps++
# [00:53] <gps> seriously, I /think/ that can happen when the test environment is unloaded while a test is still running
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# [00:54] <harth> gps: is there anything I might be doing to cause that you know?
# [00:54] <gps> harth: I dunno. I'm no mochitest expert. did you try #fx-team?
# [00:55] <harth> gps: no, I will
# [00:55] <harth> thanks
# [00:55] <gps> you may see if there are two codepaths to marking the test as completed
# [00:55] <gps> it's also possible the test may be timing out?
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# [00:56] <harth> hmm, okay
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# [00:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/dc39bcc19bd9 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 861455 - Ensure all providers are loaded during important operations; r=rnewman
# [00:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0240c846ca7a - Gregory Szorc - Merge mozilla-central into services-central
# [00:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8699a960a0d7 - Richard Newman - Bug 859920 - Some TPS tests failed when running using mozilla-central build. r=trivial
# [00:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1d7e8dace4d5 - Gregory Szorc - Merge mozilla-central into services
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# [01:00] <gps> *sigh*
# [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8e70086dd006 - Amod Narvekar - Bug 757351 - Sync uses deprecated octal literals. r=rnewman
# [01:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d8202613aaea - Gregory Szorc - Merge mozilla-central into services
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# [01:01] <rnewman> what did you do, gps?
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# [01:01] <rnewman> didn't pull first?
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# [01:01] <gps> rnewman: yup
# [01:02] <rnewman> so it goes :)
# [01:02] <gps> and I pushed to central before I pushed to services
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# [01:02] <gps> I blame my new unified Mercurial repository workflow. damn Mercurial bookmarks
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# [01:25] <fryn> ha! this diff is pretty sweet: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8e70086dd006
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# [01:29] <Unfocused> fryn: i much prefer using parseInt to do that, lets you keep using the same number format
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# [01:30] <bsmith> gps: what is the difference between setting a variable in confvars.sh vs. setting one in configure.in?
# [01:30] <bsmith> In particular, is there some kind of automatic AC_DEFINE that happens with confvars.sh?
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# [01:30] <fryn> Unfocused: interesting workaround! i suggest telling that to the patch author/reviewer, since i had nothing to do with that patch.
# [01:31] <fryn> i'm just sitting in my metaphorical armchair, chuckling non-sarcastically at an amusing changeset.
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# [01:31] <Mook_as> wouldn't parseInt be (trivially) slower? I usually just go for 0x180 /* 0600 */ etc...
# [01:31] <@gavin> bsmith: there is no automatic AC_DEFINE AFAIK
# [01:32] <gps> bsmith: configure.in sources confvars.sh. so, no, there shouldn't be any difference
# [01:32] <gps> except in order of execution of course
# [01:32] * Unfocused comments.... cos why not
# [01:32] <gps> confvars.sh is sourced at line 4366 in configure.in in m-c
# [01:32] <bsmith> ok.
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# [01:33] <Unfocused> fryn: background: octal literals are disallowed in strict mode
# [01:33] <fryn> Mook_as: true. self-documenting code probably isn't worth the overhead.
# [01:33] <fryn> Unfocused: yes, i know :)
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# [03:01] <rnewman> RyanVM|afk, philor: looks like Beta and Aurora are being slightly neglected anyway, but I feel slightly bad, so: I'm running out for 20 minutes; should be back to continue starring my push before builds are done
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# [03:07] <RyanVM> ValueError: Wasn't able to map <remote fetch="git://github.com/" name="github"/>
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# [03:07] <RyanVM> Callek|buildduty: I <3 github
# [03:07] <RyanVM> B2G builds dying with the above ^
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# [03:08] * Callek wonders if that is enough
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# [03:08] <RyanVM> Callek: nope :D
# [03:08] <RyanVM> mwahaha
# [03:09] <Callek> hwine: can I lob this one over the fence to you and/or aki ?
# [03:09] <Callek> hwine: given the time, and that its github-related
# [03:09] <Callek> :-)
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# [03:09] <aki> hm, where is this?
# [03:09] <Callek> hwine: if not I'll look at it, but yea you two have much more experience in these innards
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# [03:09] <aki> we really need to stop surprise manifest changes
# [03:09] <RyanVM> boy, I really hope someone got backed out for the android R3 orange
# [03:10] <RyanVM> nope
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# [03:11] <aki> RyanVM: this is your culprit: https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/b2g-manifest/commit/a875f9a8b2dcf034e05a4a89bdfd89500f6729de
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# [03:12] <RyanVM> oh boy, I LOOOVE when we have busted builds on m-c/birch/inbound and I can't do anything about it
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# [03:12] <philor|afk> welcome to my life, every day from the time you start making dinner until either I get home or you come back for an evening of volunteering
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# [03:13] <aki> mwu: ^^ your bustage
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# [03:14] <aki> adding new repos to the manifests, esp new remotes, without coordinating with releng will result in burning builds
# [03:14] <mwu> eh? do we do regular snapshot updates now?
# [03:15] <aki> yes
# [03:15] <aki> er, we pull automatically from git.m.o
# [03:15] <aki> no snapshots
# [03:15] <cpeterson> RyanVM: it looks like the Android R3 orange started with Scott Johnson's bug 857324
# [03:15] <mbrubeck> jwir3|away: ^
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# [03:15] <RyanVM> cpeterson: yep, pushing the backout now
# [03:16] <cpeterson> RyanVM: cool, thanks for your help! :D
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# [03:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5679169643d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset f31e6ad99dfe (bug 857324) for Android reftest-3 failures.
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# [03:18] <mwu> aki: so.. the automation strips out all our remotes and adds git.m.o versions?
# [03:18] <aki> yes
# [03:18] <mwu> aki: I mean, this is all news to me
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# [03:19] <mwu> hmm
# [03:19] <mwu> pretty fragile, but I suppose less fragile than before
# [03:20] <RyanVM> other than the whole "shit can break at any time, burning m-c et al and if we're lucky, someone will be around who can actually do something about it" part
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# [03:20] * RyanVM really needs to start beefing up his git-fu, except that would only encourage this setup
# [03:20] <_AxS_> RyanVM: it's that much different with git than it was before?
# [03:21] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: It'll help get you ready for when we switch completely from hg to git, though. <trollface>
# [03:21] <RyanVM> ...
# [03:21] <Callek> mbrubeck: ::table flip::
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# [03:21] <mwu> mozilla food fight
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# [03:22] <Callek> God, hitler, nazis, republican
# [03:22] <mwu> why thank you
# [03:22] <Callek> there I've just won with godwin before we got too far
# [03:22] <@dveditz> lost?
# [03:22] <Callek> shh
# [03:22] <Callek> :-P
# [03:23] <cpeterson> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
# [03:23] <@dveditz> ?
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# [03:23] <@dveditz> angry bird + phone + shelf?
# [03:24] <cpeterson> dveditz: it's an emoji dude flipping over a table. it's a thing, apparently: http://emojicons.com/table-flipping
# [03:24] <Callek> ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ︵ ┻━┻
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# [03:25] <@dveditz> ah, ( ‾ʖ̫‾)
# [03:25] <RyanVM> lulz, can I blame this on github too?
# [03:25] <@dveditz> some people have too much time on their hands
# [03:25] <RyanVM> wget: unable to resolve host address `build.mozilla.org'
# [03:26] <mwu> aki: I'm going to back out the change on emulator/panda/unagi
# [03:26] <aki> ty
# [03:26] <philor> I was surprised that slave recovered on the next run
# [03:26] <mwu> I think we'll want a safe branch for releng to pull from
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# [03:26] <philor> usually that also results in not rebooting and not recovering
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# [03:26] <aki> i guess this won't affect the hamachi/leo/otoro builds?
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# [03:27] <aki> the safe branch will just be another point where we'll fall behind, isn't it?
# [03:27] <@dveditz> even better than flipping tables: (╯°□°)╯︵ ʞooqǝɔɐɟ
# [03:28] <mwu> aki: maybe we should talk when you're less angry
# [03:28] <aki> i'm not angry
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# [03:28] <aki> i think there's some emotion in this channel; i don't think it's from me
# [03:28] <aki> sorry if it's coming across that way
# [03:29] <ewong> just how did he do that?
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# [03:34] <@dolske> it's an emoticon _and_ a game! https://twitter.com/dolske/status/325428165499559936
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# [03:36] <wg9s> RyanVM: Just asking, but why is central open if inbound is closed if the bustage appears to be the same (at least to me)?
# [03:37] <mwu> aki: backout landed
# [03:37] <philor> reload
# [03:37] <aki> ty
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# [03:37] <wg9s> Ah it seems to show claosed now. must have been a tbpl issue.
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# [03:39] <mwu> aki: uh, so this manifest thing just landed today too
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# [03:40] <aki> i think the mozharness code landed yesterday
# [03:40] <aki> maybe the in-tree code landed today?
# [03:41] <aki> i haven't been following too closely. i do know it's been an engineering want
# [03:41] <mwu> just trying to figure out how I'm suppose to have known "<aki> adding new repos to the manifests, esp new remotes, without coordinating with releng will result in burning builds"
# [03:41] <mwu> yeah it's definitely good
# [03:41] <mwu> the implementation is just a bit unexpected
# [03:42] <aki> sorry about the miscommunication
# [03:42] <aki> thank you for the quick backout
# [03:42] <mwu> np
# [03:42] <philor> interesting, not showing as finished yet, but my retriggers seem to be red
# [03:42] <aki> hm, the manifests may need to populate on git.m.o first
# [03:42] <philor> according to https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5679169643d
# [03:42] <philor> ah
# [03:42] <aki> may be a few minutes to propagate
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# [03:49] <_AxS_> aki: so, if i want to devel and generate patches off of m-c in git, is git.m.o the repo to clone from or should i stick with github?
# [03:49] <aki> _AxS_: i think either works, since the repository-of-record is in hg
# [03:49] <_AxS_> aki: 'k tnx.
# [03:49] <aki> to work more closely with other devs, basing off ehsan's repo might make sense
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# [03:50] <aki> that's https://github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central iirc
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# [03:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/95bedf59af4a - Jim Chen - Bug 857413 - Use only one copy of GeckoInputConnection.ThreadUtils; r=cpeterson a=bajaj
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# [03:55] <zamN> Hi, is there an appropriate channel to discuss gsoc things on this network?
# [03:56] <zamN> (besides this channel) heh
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# [03:58] <Waldo> zamN: submission mechanics, or coding questions? latter can go in #introduction, former I dunno (although #introduction might be able to direct you, I think they've gotten that question enough that they probably know at this point, although I don't know for sure)
# [03:59] <zamN> Okay, I'll ask there. Thanks Waldo :)
# [03:59] <Waldo> np
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# [05:11] <philor> and that's a problem we really really need to solve
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# [05:14] <philor> unless, I guess, all the people who push within a couple of minutes of a silent reopening have written scripts to poll treestatus and automatically rebase and push when it opens
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# [05:15] <philor> but I can't help thinking that every tree closure actually costs us thousands of dollars of time spend staring at the word CLOSED, waiting for it to change
# [05:16] * @bz just checks every 30 mins or so when the tree is closed
# [05:16] <@bz> sometimes that means it's closed again
# [05:16] <@bz> but usually we can't cycle fast enough for that
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# [05:19] <philor> yeah, only the quick build bustages that you don't want to be on top of anyway
# [05:19] <reuben> I would link you to my tree status notifications add-on, but bug 860951
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# [05:21] <philor> I'd offer up the solution of just exporting and using checkin-needed when a tree closure gets in your way, but unfortunately that means offering someone else's time and effort, not my own
# [05:22] <@bz> well, so
# [05:22] <@bz> checkin-needed is tough
# [05:22] <philor> but it pains me to see, after almost every closure, a half dozen pushes that absolutely didn't need to land that minute
# [05:22] <@bz> because I commonly have bugs depending on each other
# [05:22] <philor> yeah, I don't want you using it ;)
# [05:22] <@bz> and multiple changesets
# [05:22] <@bz> and so forth
# [05:22] <@bz> making someone else push my stuff would suck for them
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# [05:23] * @bz feels guilty enough about ryanvm doing all the aurora bits
# [05:23] <philor> but the typical daytime mad rebase push race almost always includes "add a reftest" "address review comment" "fix a comment" "fix a warning, r=trivial"
# [05:24] <philor> which could beautifully have been combined into one push, two hours later, without anyone missing a beat
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# [05:27] <darktrojan> surely nobody pushes stuff to inbound and waits to see if it builds or not /s
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# [05:28] <darktrojan> have an automated queue
# [05:28] <KWierso|Home> o/
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# [05:28] <aja> new rule: 1 checkin per bug#....after that, sell line tickets
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# [05:30] <philor> well, no, there are bugs that land in four or five heinous giant chunks, each one needing to land as quickly as possible before it rots
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# [05:31] <darktrojan> I think I just suggested mozilla-inbound-inbound
# [05:32] <darktrojan> :/
# [05:32] <philor> I think you mean Auto
# [05:32] <darktrojan> probably, is that still a thing?
# [05:33] <philor> .platform, "proposal for a multi-headed something" or something like that
# [05:33] <@bz> hydra
# [05:33] <philor> Auto an integration branch that sits between try and m-c, not autoland
# [05:33] <darktrojan> oh, you mean fluffy?
# [05:33] <@bz> lol
# [05:33] <darktrojan> he's harmless really, just play him a bit of music and he'll fall sound asleep
# [05:33] <philor> I'm hoping for Otto, because the life of a sheriff is alway intense
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# [05:34] * philor looks at how old Repo Man is
# [05:34] <philor> damn, most of you weren't born, were you? that's going to make a tough sell
# [05:35] <darktrojan> heh
# [05:36] <darktrojan> I was \o
# [05:36] <darktrojan> just
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# [05:55] <darktrojan> oh nice, masayuki++
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# [05:58] <BenWa> ok, new bug then
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# [06:53] <stuart> hrm
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# [06:53] <stuart> is there some known issue in nightlies on mac where flash is scaled/weird on hulu?
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# [06:54] <heycam> stuart, yes, bug 863922
# [06:55] <stuart> man, flash doesn't work fullscreen in chrome, and is broken in firefox heh
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# [06:55] <stuart> oh well
# [06:55] <BenWa> stuart: Should be fine in non nightly
# [06:55] <stuart> i guess i can install something else
# [06:56] <heycam> you can temporarily get around the problem by setting layout.css.devPixelsPerPx=1, at the expense of everything surrounding it looking tiny
# [06:56] <stuart> heh
# [06:56] <stuart> i may do that ;-)
# [06:56] <stuart> the sad thing is all i want is fullscreen, but can't get to that on hulu because of scaled heh
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# [06:57] <heycam> if you managed to full screen it you'd probably still only get a quarter of the image :)
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# [07:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d13fc07e67af - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 860524. Remove hacky (and buggy) pseudo-destruction of DisplayItemClips created by GetCurrentClip; ensure that they're all destroyed properly when the arena goes
# [07:13] <firebot> away, by tracking them explicitly in nsDisplayListBuilder. r=mattwoodrow
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# [07:47] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/happy-bmo-push-day-42/
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# [07:49] <heycam> woo, auto product filler innerer on the file bug page works well again :)
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# [07:56] <jesup> Ugh. "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" (on an Aurora Fedora64 opt build)
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# [07:57] <jesup> especially as it's a file I didn't touch
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# [08:01] <njn> In https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=3c1c69d766b8 I'm getting debug M-o failures that I'm pretty sure aren't my fault -- was there a bad push earlier in the day that I unluckily hit?
# [08:03] <njn> the failures are relating to unexpected numbers of assertions in some dom/plugin tests
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# [08:08] * njn finds the inbound push on which I pushed. Yep, not his fault
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# [08:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b2c39985587 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 856917 (part 1) - Improve about:memory's functional UI. r=kats.
# [08:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c5977e8d52f - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 856917 (part 2) - Add a test for "?file=" loading in about:memory. r=jlebar.
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# [09:17] <seedo> why is it that we never tried firefox ID ? A user can login when he opens the browser and his personal bookmarks,sessions can be loaded.It costs a central server heavily but ..
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# [09:21] <KWierso|Home> seedo: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity#2013_Identity_Goals ?
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# [09:24] <seedo> I should be more keen on following the entire community :) awesome ..
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# [10:10] <gsvelto> Can anyone help me 'decode' this try run? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=5ea67101c4d7
# [10:10] <gsvelto> The Fedora builds show up as orange but there's nothing wrong in the logs
# [10:10] <gsvelto> So I'm a bit puzzled
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# [10:13] <@smaug> heycam: I hope I didn't steal a bug you were just debugging :)
# [10:14] <heycam> smaug, no that's fine, I hadn't started looking into it properly. actually was just waiting on a build when you commented :)
# [10:14] <ewong> gsvelto: "Started alive test failed (results: 2, elapsed: 0 secs) "
# [10:15] * heycam probably would have taken 5x as long to discover the issue anyway, not living in content/ much
# [10:15] <ewong> gsvelto: possibly (I dunno) "No rule to make target 'leaktest' needed by ['<command-line>', 'leaktest']"
# [10:17] <gsvelto> ewong: Right, it could be that but it's the first time I see anything like this
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# [10:17] <@smaug> heycam: that bug was pretty obvious to me indeed
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# [10:17] <heycam> :)
# [10:17] <ewong> gsvelto: ditto here..
# [10:18] <gsvelto> ewong: at least it doesn't look to have anything with my patch :) thanks
# [10:19] <ewong> gsvelto: np.. sorry couldn't help with your problem.
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# [10:23] <edmorley> gsvelto: on what tree was the patch based?
# [10:24] <gsvelto> edmorley: mozilla-b2g18
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# [10:27] <edmorley> gsvelto: I'm pretty sure it's just that b2g18 is so behind trunk now that try pushes don't work (due to buildbot-configs changes)
# [10:27] <gsvelto> edmorley: I see... good to know because we still have to land quite a bit of stuff there
# [10:28] <edmorley> I really wish they'd bite the bullet and move b2g to a newer gecko, but hey
# [10:29] <glandium> edmorley: alternatively, i'd really wish buildbot-configs wasn't decoupled from the tree
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# [10:29] <edmorley> that too, though I was meaning for other reasons mainly
# [10:30] <ewong> wasn't decoupled? double negatives make my head hurt.. ;P
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# [10:30] <glandium> ewong: don't you not dislike double negatives?
# [10:31] <ewong> O_O
# [10:31] <ewong> my head...
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# [10:31] <glazou> surprising you can deal with boolean logic in c++ but not in english, guys...
# [10:32] <ewong> glazou boolean logic also makes my head hurt
# [10:32] <ewong> which is why I'm so crap at it
# [10:32] <glazou> ewong: I see :-D
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# [10:33] <glandium> edmorley: i don't know how buildbot-configs ends up on build bots, but something like having a manifest in m-c saying what revision to use could allow easier train riding, and handling of project branches for many things
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# [10:33] <edmorley> glandium: agreed, think there may even be a releng bug filed for that
# [10:34] <ewong> glandium basically the buildbot configs are 'consumed' by the master and the configuration changes are 'directed' to the slaves..
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# [10:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/095979278426 - Ed Morley - Bug 864694 - Remove the string "Assertion failure:" from jsreftest summaries to avoid TBPL false positives; r=terrence
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# [11:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2d5b7337a7e - Jonathan Watt - Bug 864771 - Stop calling nsSVGUtils::InvalidateBounds in DoApplyRenderingChangeToTree, and use DLBI instead. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ab7562be0e6 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 864772 - Stop calling nsSVGUtils::InvalidateBounds in nsSVGDisplayContainerFrame::RemoveFrame, and use DLBI instead. r=mattwoodrow
# [11:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8aa8f6474bf9 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 864770 - Stop calling nsSVGUtils::InvalidateBounds in nsSVGEffects code, and use DLBI instead. r=mattwoodrow
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# [11:18] <@roc> jwatt: yay
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# [11:19] <Gijs> roc: hey, by the way... remember this anonymous content fix for inIDOMUtils and inIDeepTreeWalker? :)
# [11:19] <Gijs> roc: will that also help in inspecting web components?
# [11:20] <Gijs> Or are those implemented differently?
# [11:21] <Yoric> mak: Well, there's some progress. However, mozStorageTransaction depends on {Begin, Commit, Rollback}Transaction, which we are only present in the sync version. Looks like I'll need to implement {Begin, Commit, Rollback}AsyncTransaction. Or is there a better way?
# [11:22] <mak> Yoric: hm, do you need mozStorageTransaction?
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# [11:22] <@roc> Gijs: I expect it will
# [11:22] <Gijs> roc: cool, that's what I was hoping. :)
# [11:23] <@roc> I imagine that the Web Components shadow DOM will be implemented using the same machinery we use for XBL
# [11:23] <@roc> but I don't know
# [11:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/925d5b6c9171 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 834835. Part 1: Add initial AudioStreamTrack/VideoStreamTrack/MediaStreamTrack interfaces and implementations. r=jesup
# [11:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d8b98f8a48c - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 786539. Part 2: AreAllStreamsForResourceSuspended should ignore streams that can't read the resource data we need. r=cpearce
# [11:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1065d2c7fd37 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 834835. Part 4: Test basic MediaStreamTrack functionality. r=jesup
# [11:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/756845df5849 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 786539. Part 3: Reenable test on Windows. r=cpearce
# [11:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86a8ca51e847 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 834835. Part 2: Make DOMMediaStream maintain a list of MediaStreamTrack objects. r=jesup
# [11:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fed72d279071 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 834835. Part 3: Implement DOMMediaStream::GetAudio/VideoTracks. r=jesup
# [11:23] <mak> Yoric: btw, as previously expressed by asuth, beginTransaction and friends are a sucky API, we should try to not bring them over
# [11:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8668a6b76ef2 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 786539. Part 1: When receiving an HTTP 416 in response to a seek, tell the media cache that we reached the end of the resource. r=cpearce
# [11:24] <Yoric> mak: Well, mozStorageTransaction is called by mozStorageAsyncStatementExecution.
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# [11:25] <Yoric> AsyncExecuteStatements::Run()
# [11:25] * Yoric might look at that method |statementsNeedTransaction()|.
# [11:25] <mak> Yoric: but IIRC it only invokes BeginTransactionAs(), why do you need the external APIs?
# [11:25] <Yoric> mak: Well, it invokes all three of them.
# [11:26] <Yoric> BeginTransactionAs() in its constructor, CommitTransaction() and RollbackTransaction() in its destructor.
# [11:27] <mak> Yoric: I suppose you may invoke those even if they are not exposed by the idl though
# [11:27] <Yoric> I suppose that I could do an unsafe cast.
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# [11:28] <Yoric> Do you think I should head in that direction?
# [11:28] <mak> well if you have mozIStorageAsyncConnection what is unsafe in casting to Connection?
# [11:28] <Yoric> Well, by definition, casting interface to implementation is always unsafe.
# [11:29] <mak> in theory, practice wins :)
# [11:29] <Yoric> :)
# [11:29] <Yoric> Do you think I should head in that direction?
# [11:29] <mak> yeah, I think so, for now!
# [11:29] <gfritzsche> hmpf, why would support.mozilla.org pages use flash?
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# [11:34] <Yoric> mak: Is there a reason to put all the implementation of mozStorageHelper in the header?
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# [11:35] <mak> Yoric: don't know, I didn't exist at that time, probably just cause it's short and simpler to read that way
# [11:35] <Yoric> Given that this header is public, I would be forced to make mozStorageConnection.h public too, if I want to cast to Connection.
# [11:35] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [11:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da6a56be2e05 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861887 - GC: Rooting in XrayWrapper.cpp - part 2 r=bholley
# [11:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e96a99f7c5d - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861887 - GC: Rooting in XrayWrapper.cpp - part 1 r=terrence
# [11:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dff116662296 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 864748 - Avoid accessing uninitialized data when calling a getter r=bholley
# [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/233f42abf005 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 861912 - GC: Remove use of AUTO_MARK_JSVAL in XPConnect r=bholley
# [11:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc71d4d99555 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 864738 - Shell crashes when run with GC zeal 10,1 from command line r=billm
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# [11:50] <Carnation> Building firefox is showing this error, it was working fine before though http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2342813
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# [11:52] <glandium> Carnation: did you try to remove your objdir ?
# [11:52] <Carnation> no
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# [11:54] <Carnation> I remember doing hg pull -u, it detected some differences in a source file which I had changed, I closed the prompt at that time, cause i didnt know what to do at that time so that my changes are not overwritten
# [11:54] <Yoric> glandium: I had him run |./mach clobber|.
# [11:55] <glandium> Carnation: what version of msvc do you use?
# [11:56] <Carnation> 10
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# [11:57] <glandium> Carnation: do you have a TypeOracle.h file under js/src/ion in your source directory, right?
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# [11:58] <Carnation> nopes its not there
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# [11:58] <glandium> Carnation: then your source tree is not right
# [11:59] <Carnation> But I built it earlier and have run ff many times
# [11:59] <jdm> Carnation: pastebin the output of |hg status|
# [11:59] <glandium> Carnation: what does hg status say?
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# [12:00] <Yoric> mak: Ok, so now, I know why everything was in the .h: because the c++ test suite doesn't seem to link to anything.
# [12:00] <mak> Yoric: makes sense
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# [12:00] <Yoric> So I'll have to find a way around that.
# [12:01] <Yoric> Unrelated questions: the nightly I just built seems to crash because gShutdownChecks is set to SCM_CRASH. Should I worry or is that normal?
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# [12:01] <Yoric> (also, this seems to prevent my nightly from saving the session restore)
# [12:01] <Carnation> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2342824
# [12:02] <mak> Yoric: I'm not sure, that looks like related to poison writes
# [12:02] <Yoric> Yeah, but that's all I managed to deduce.
# [12:02] * Yoric will take a look at bugzilla.
# [12:03] <Yoric> Ah, it's set by #ifdef DEBUG.
# [12:03] <mak> Yoric: it's possible you are not yet closing the connection properly
# [12:03] <Yoric> So that is probably normal.
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# [12:03] <jdm> Carnation: looks like you're missing a bunch of stuff
# [12:04] <Yoric> mak: Actually, that's on a different branch. I'm attempting to debug two bugs at once.
# [12:04] <Yoric> (on two computers)
# [12:04] <jdm> Carnation: do you know the changes you've iontentionally made?
# [12:04] <jdm> if so, I recommend saving those and just running |hg revert --all|
# [12:05] <Carnation> yes, I remember them
# [12:05] <Yoric> mak: What would happen if I just patched AsyncExecuteStatements::statementsNeedTransaction() to return |false|?
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# [12:05] <mak> Yoric: it would not automatically create a transaction when needed (like if multiple write statements are executed at once)
# [12:06] <Yoric> mak: Ok, that doesn't sound good.
# [12:06] <Yoric> Mmmhhh...
# [12:06] <Yoric> Otoh, if everything is executed on the same thread, what's the worst that could happen?
# [12:06] <mak> Yoric: heh no, that method exists with a reason, is not there just to take space
# [12:07] <Yoric> :)
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# [12:07] <Yoric> Well, I wondered if the method could be unnecessary for my current use case.
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# [12:07] <Carnation> It only said -"reverting browser\themes\windows\browser.css"
# [12:08] <Carnation> should i perform the whole build again?
# [12:08] <Yoric> (in which case, I could add a simple test and not use transactions if we are using a connection that does not support synchronous I/O)
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# [12:10] <mak> Yoric: transactions are unrelated to the thread, they can limit number of fsyncs and increase coherency, if properly used
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# [12:10] <Yoric> mak: Ok, so I'll have to figure out something else.
# [12:11] <Yoric> thanks
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# [12:13] <glandium> Carnation: if you still don't have js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h, rebuilding is not going to help
# [12:13] <glandium> Carnation: did you really paste the whole thing?
# [12:13] <Carnation> Yes its not there
# [12:14] <Carnation> Paste? The source code?
# [12:14] <glandium> Carnation: the output of hg status
# [12:14] <Carnation> yes it was this much only
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# [12:16] <glandium> Carnation: if you do "hg up -r tip^", does js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h appear?
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# [12:17] <Carnation> no
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# [12:19] <glandium> Carnation: try removing js/src/ion entirely (rm -rf), then hg up -r tip -C
# [12:20] <glandium> if that doesn't bring js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h back, then there's something seriously broken
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# [12:25] <Carnation> no its not coming :(
# [12:26] <Yoric> mak: Ok, with a minor hack, it seems to be working.
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# [12:26] <Yoric> Running more tests.
# [12:27] <glandium> Carnation: what does debugstate | grep js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h say?
# [12:27] <glandium> err 2hg debugstate | grep js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h"
# [12:27] <glandium> gah s/2hg/"hg/
# [12:27] <Carnation> what?
# [12:28] <Gijs> So let's say there's a crasher on 19/20/21/22 that was fixed by switching to WebIDL bindings
# [12:28] <Carnation> do u mean hg debugstate | grep js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h
# [12:28] <Gijs> would we care to fix 21/22? (simple extra nullcheck)
# [12:29] <Gijs> (bug 865147)
# [12:29] <glandium> Carnation: yes
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# [12:30] <Carnation> Nothing!
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# [12:31] <glandium> Carnation: hg identify ?
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# [12:32] <Carnation> 3872f57dd5a8 bug691594win.patch/qtip/tip
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# [12:32] <glandium> Carnation: hg qpop -a
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# [12:32] <Carnation> I created this patch recently
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# [12:33] <glandium> then hg up -r tip
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# [12:33] <glandium> then hg identify
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# [12:34] <Carnation> fef5f202b2dc tip
# [12:35] <glandium> Carnation: hg debugstate | grep js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h?
# [12:37] <Carnation> Nothing again!
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# [12:39] <glandium> Carnation: hg up null ; hg up -r tip
# [12:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c307cb8bffec - Jon Coppeard - Bug 860145 - IonMonkey: Add support for ArgumentsObject r=nbp
# [12:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/781a47680e34 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 864002 - IonMonkey: Assertion failure: (ptrBits & 0x7) == 0, at ./dist/include/js/Value.h:733... r=djvj
# [12:39] <glandium> then hg debugstate | grep js/src/ion/TypeOracle.h again
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# [12:46] <darktrojan> why is there an oracle in the tree anyway? are the machines taking over?
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# [12:50] <jandem> Carnation: TypeOracle.h was removed yd
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# [12:55] <Carnation> its taking too much time
# [12:56] <glandium> jandem: that must be fairly recent, then
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# [13:01] <Carnation> hg up null ; hg up -r tip statement is stucked up
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# [13:02] <jdm> Carnation: if you delete the objdir and build again, does the error go away?
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# [15:45] <yury> jdm: re: bug 831107, I have code that uses mozTCPSocket, how can I detect when I shall use Uint8Array to fallback in older versions?
# [15:46] <jdm> yury: huh. how are you using it?
# [15:46] <glandium> bsmedberg: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/visuren.html#propdef-z-index no boundaries afaics
# [15:46] <yury> jdm: https://github.com/yurydelendik/rtmp.js
# [15:46] <jdm> yury: given that it's inaccessible in desktop Firefox, afaik, I can't imagine the older versions matter.
# [15:46] <@bsmedberg> glandium: ok, apparently there are 32-bit int limits in our impl
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# [15:47] <jdm> yury: the only thing that comes to mind is a try catch that tries to send the uint8array first
# [15:47] <jdm> and you can detect what kind of object you get from ondata
# [15:48] <yury> no special property or attribute? :)
# [15:48] <armenzg> is there a way to push to m-i and only build and test on Windows?
# [15:48] <armenzg> actually, I should do DONTBUILD
# [15:49] <jdm> yury: nein. sorry.
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# [15:51] <yzen> ttaubert: i was wondering if you had a chance to take a look at my patches for bug 833286 :)
# [15:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29e36db5046a - Armen Zambrano Gasparnian - Bug 864788 - Add fuzzing to test 784573-1.html. DONTBUILD r=ajones
# [15:51] <ttaubert> yzen: sorry not yet. planned for today
# [15:51] <yzen> ttaubert: awesome, no worries
# [15:51] <yzen> ttaubert: and thanks!
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# [15:56] <beltzner> ted: thx for the contribution
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# [15:57] <@ted> :)
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# [15:57] <avih> on windows, how do i recompile a single file?
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# [16:00] <avih> and also, while i do know that i'd need to rebuild tooklit/library, i'm not sure if there are any more intermediate links i should go through between compiling that file and linking the library
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# [16:00] <avih> fwiw, smartmake does speedup the incremental build over mach, but i wish to speed the iterations up even more
# [16:00] <avih> if possible
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# [16:03] <@ted> avih: you shouldn't need any incremental links anymore
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# [16:03] <@ted> er, intermediate links
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# [16:03] <avih> ted: between compiling the file and linking the library?
# [16:04] <@ted> we don't build actual static libs anymore, and the intermediate dependencies work transitively, i think
# [16:04] <@ted> yeah
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# [16:04] <@ted> you should be able to make -C $objdir/path sourcefile.obj
# [16:04] <avih> ok, so how do i compile just one file?
# [16:04] <avih> hmm.. thx. will try.
# [16:06] <avih> ted: pymake instead of make?
# [16:06] <@ted> avih: yeah
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# [16:12] <avih> ted: much appreciated :) it worked. using smartmake layout/base would result in 75 seconds after changing the cpp file i'm working on. compiling just that file and then linking the library resulted in 45 seconds :) nice.
# [16:12] <avih> (and the build reflects the change at my file)
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# [16:12] <beltzner> man, this playlist is pretty epic
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# [16:13] <@ted> avih: interesting, wonder what we're wasting all that time doing?
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# [16:13] <@ted> avih: also, it'd be interesting to fix mach to let you build a single object file
# [16:13] <@ted> (especially after the built-in smartmake support lands)
# [16:13] <glandium> beltzner: what playlist?
# [16:14] <avih> ted: smartmake is unoptimal. it also scans through all the subdirs of layout. but since i know i only made change to a cpp file, i can get away with compiling just it.
# [16:14] <glandium> ted: maybe smartmake is just not as smart as it should
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# [16:14] <@ted> indeed
# [16:15] <@ted> maybe someday we'll have full dependencies
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# [16:15] <@ted> beltzner: i'm curious to see if you hit issues with songs not being available in your region...
# [16:15] <avih> ted: however, the same logic could probably also be applied by smartmake and/or mach. especially for changes only in cpp files
# [16:15] <@ted> avih: we'll hit diminishing returns here
# [16:16] <@ted> where we should just focus on fixing our dependencies
# [16:16] <beltzner> glandium: https://twitter.com/beltzner/status/327056446279782400
# [16:16] <beltzner> ted: they're getting better at that, from what I can tell
# [16:16] <sfink> yeah, adding dependency information to mach doesn't move us forward
# [16:16] <avih> ted: possibly, but it'll only have to be "fixed" once, and imagine the overall number of hours saved to everyone which compile files...
# [16:17] <avih> ted: when you say we, you mean for mach, or for smartmake?
# [16:17] <@ted> beltzner: that's good, because that's pretty depressing
# [16:17] <@ted> avih: for the actual build system
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# [16:18] <avih> ted: yeah. probably. though the difference between mach and smartmake is that the latter can afford to not always work as expected, since it takes a simplistic approach. mach can't do that, and the difference in the result (build time) could be significant as a result.
# [16:18] <glandium> beltzner, ted: 5 are not available here
# [16:19] <avih> ted: anyway, i'm now happy with my 45s iteration cycles :) thx again.
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# [16:20] <SDUP> hi ! soz for duplicating text from #introduction but ...
# [16:20] <SDUP> i want to use xpath on a nsDOMHTMLDocument that i've created using nsDOMParser::parseFromString("text/html",...)
# [16:20] <SDUP> so when i call nsIDOMXPathEvaluator::Evaluate(...), it returns NS_ERROR_DOM_SECURITY_ERR
# [16:20] <SDUP> is there a way to parse a serialized html file into a dom object and then use xpath on it ?
# [16:20] <SDUP> i think that i could resolve the security issue by calling nsDOMParser::Init with the document URI where my JS caller func is located
# [16:20] <@ted> avih: we're getting smartmake integrated into mach, fwiw
# [16:20] <SDUP> but how could i get this URI in my code ?
# [16:20] <avih> ted: yeah, i saw that bug :)
# [16:20] <@ted> avih: bug 677452
# [16:20] <@ted> i think that's still ok because it should only affect when you "mach build X", which is already not building everything
# [16:21] <avih> ted: do you think you could integrate it such that it's absolutely dependable?
# [16:21] <@bz> hmm
# [16:21] <@bz> blink removed microdata api?
# [16:21] <avih> while still maintain its advantage of quicker build times?
# [16:21] <@ted> avih: almost certainly not
# [16:21] <@ted> but it's ok
# [16:22] <@ted> if you "mach build layout" you are already doing that with the knowledge that it might not link everything you need
# [16:22] <@ted> so if we build a little bit more but still aren't perfect i think it's ok
# [16:22] <@ted> you can still "mach build" to get everything to build
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# [16:22] <avih> let me make the same change and try 'mach build layout'
# [16:23] <glandium> avih: that will only build layout, currently
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# [16:23] <avih> so no toolkit/library?
# [16:23] <glandium> avih: no
# [16:23] <glandium> avih: but aiui, with smartmake integrated in mach, it will
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# [16:25] <jdm> hmm, that's interesting
# [16:26] <avih> ted: aye. mach build layout/base; mach build toolkit/library is 48s. so quite similar to compiling the file and smartmake toolkit/library, and quite faster than smartmake toolkit/library
# [16:26] <jdm> yury: remind me, is this an addon?
# [16:26] <yury> web page with permissions
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# [16:26] <jdm> weird
# [16:26] <avih> er.. faster than smartmake layout/base
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# [16:27] <avih> ted: this is encouraging :)
# [16:27] <@ted> avih: may be that smartmake just doesn't have its dependencies in a granular enough fashion
# [16:27] <avih> ted: indeed
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# [16:27] <@ted> avih: FYI you can 'mach build layout/base toolkit/library'
# [16:27] <avih> so where does mach gets its dependencies from?
# [16:27] <avih> ted: noted :)
# [16:27] <@ted> it doesn't, it just invokes the build system
# [16:27] <avih> ok
# [16:27] <@ted> "mach build X" is equivalent to "make -C $objdir/X"
# [16:27] <avih> right
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# [16:28] <jdm> smartmake sees layout/base and chooses to build layout/
# [16:28] <jdm> iirc
# [16:28] <@ted> ah
# [16:28] <avih> so the extra 2-3s went over scanning the layout/base directory and picking up the single file which needs compiling.
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# [16:29] <avih> ted: so where would the layout -> toolkit/library dependency come from? manually maintained file like smartmake? or more automatically?
# [16:29] <jdm> avih: in what context?
# [16:30] <avih> jdm: that doing mach layout would also build toolkit/library, because the latter depends on the former
# [16:30] <jdm> avih: does that actually happen right now?
# [16:30] <jdm> I don't believe it does.
# [16:31] <avih> no, it doesn't. that's what i was asking. where would that dependency info come from to make it work
# [16:31] <jdm> manually, at this point.
# [16:31] <avih> so like smartmake then
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# [16:32] <@ted> avih: that patch literally integrates smartmake
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# [16:32] <@ted> so it has a little file that lists coarse directory dependencies
# [16:32] <glandium> avih: note you can also do mach build foo/bar/baz.o, it will run the right make -C objdir/foo/bar baz.o
# [16:33] <Yoric> mak: ping
# [16:33] <@ted> glandium: oh, i didn't know that worked
# [16:33] <jdm> glandium: huh, I didn't no that.
# [16:33] <@ted> or maybe i forgot
# [16:33] <glandium> (and even make -C objdir/foo bar/baz.o in the case that's what needed)
# [16:33] <mak> Yoric: yes?
# [16:33] <Yoric> mak: I need your wisdom on something else.
# [16:33] <mak> Yoric: let me see if I find it, I think I put it into a drawer somewhere here
# [16:34] <Yoric> mak: Look with the socks.
# [16:34] <Yoric> mak: As part of the bug, |createFunction| has become [noscript]. Turns out that the js testsuite uses that method. What do you prefer? Getting rid of that bit of the testsuite? Making it scriptable again? Something weirder?
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# [16:35] <mak> Yoric: mxr link?
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# [16:35] <Yoric> mak: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/storage/test/unit/test_storage_connection.js#368
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# [16:36] <Yoric> In that file, we have createFunction x 2, createAggregateFunction x2.
# [16:36] <mak> Yoric: yeah, there is also test_storage_function.js
# [16:37] <Yoric> Ah, that too.
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# [16:38] <mak> Yoric: hm it's interesting cause asuth pointed out was not possible to implement function in js, but looks like it is. Which one was the reason for [noscript] apart enforcing this?
# [16:38] <Yoric> I seem to remember that this was the only reason.
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# [16:39] <mak> Yoric: I'd say to remove the noscript, post to the bug the reasoning, and try to get him involved, I don't know if he had deeper reasons
# [16:39] <Yoric> ok
# [16:39] <Yoric> thanks
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# [16:46] <decoder> froydnj: I guess our build system uses -O3 at some point?
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# [16:48] <glandium> http://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangFormat.html the solution to style issues?
# [16:48] <glandium> decoder: we use -O3 for js
# [16:49] <decoder> glandium: ah ok, then that explains it
# [16:49] <glandium> decoder: otherwise, it's -Os, except for PGO builds
# [16:49] <decoder> okay
# [16:49] <decoder> clang 3.3 is broken on JS
# [16:49] <decoder> with -O3
# [16:49] <ferjm> Hi! how can I print the value of an nsAString in gdb?
# [16:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27478e07af9d - Till Schneidereit - Bug 851788 - prevent jsd_SetExecutionHook from operating on self-hosted functions. r=jimb
# [16:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54f8a705866d - Till Schneidereit - Bug 856246 - support specifying thread count in jit-test metalines. r=terrence
# [16:50] <tbsaunde> ferjm: x /hs string.mData
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# [16:56] <jdm> ehsan: y u fill up my mailbox with bugs with no text
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# [16:57] <@ehsan> jdm: jrmuizel is contagious
# [16:58] <jdm> put on a biohazard suit next time you find yourself nearby him
# [16:58] <@ehsan> hehe
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# [16:58] <@ehsan> jdm: I'm also trying to see how soon you're going to give up watching me
# [16:59] <jdm> challenge accepted
# [16:59] <jdm> I'll create multiple accounts that watch you now
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# [17:00] <@ehsan> lol
# [17:00] <tbsaunde> or just filter bug mail that you only get because you follow ehsan
# [17:00] <jdm> one day I want to create a maching that prints out bugmail and folds paper airplanes out of them
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# [17:01] <jdm> then launches them towards the person that generated it
# [17:01] <jdm> it would be a glorious object lesson
# [17:01] <gaston> that assumes you're in the same office, or you need solar-powered paper airplanes
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# [17:01] <Gijs> bsmedberg: have you got 2 minutes for a question about bug 763890 and gtest/xpcom? :)
# [17:01] <@ehsan> jdm: better consider printing them on metal sheets...
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# [17:01] <jdm> I'm willing to limit my machine to just printing ehsan's bugmail
# [17:01] <@ehsan> shoot
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# [17:02] <@ehsan> then paper is fine
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# [17:02] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: ok
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# [17:03] <Gijs> bsmedberg: so I have a test on the bug with r?, but I suspect you / we would really prefer it if gtest had "proper" support for tests that do need a limited bit of xpcom... so I was wondering if you'd mind if I landed the actual fix while waiting for review / gtest improvements? :)
# [17:03] <Gijs> bsmedberg: I'm also not sure if I'm supposed to ask for sr for this kind of code...
# [17:03] <@bsmedberg> sr for tests? no
# [17:03] <Gijs> no, I meant for the actual fix :)
# [17:04] <@bsmedberg> Gijs: you mean the rearrangement of profile folders?
# [17:04] <Gijs> yup
# [17:04] <@bsmedberg> hrm
# [17:04] <@bsmedberg> I'm on the edge about that one
# [17:04] <@bsmedberg> this code is under-loved to begin with ;-)
# [17:04] <Gijs> Right. :)
# [17:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52127bafd50b - Scott Johnson - Bug 857324: Make column set reflow continue without balancing rather than restarting if computed height is exceeded. [r=mats]
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# [17:06] <Gijs> bsmedberg: my cpp-fu is limited to a point where I think my trying to add scopedxpcomstartup support to gtest is folly, and it'd be a shame to have the fix linger for too long, hence the question. :)
# [17:06] <@ted> jdm: i shudder to think of how many trees would die
# [17:07] <@ted> also how are you going to fire paper airplanes at people trolling on bugs with 500 people CCed?
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# [17:09] <jdm> ted: where there's a will, there's a way
# [17:09] <@ted> i support this plan
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# [17:10] <@bz> how can I unbreak my console to actually open scripts?
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# [17:12] <RyanVM> jdm: have you had a chance to work on the xpcshell timeout patch lately?
# [17:12] <jdm> RyanVM: nope. it's on my list for when I'm not actively doing b2g blockers.
# [17:12] <RyanVM> ok
# [17:12] <philor> inbound's not looking too great
# [17:12] <RyanVM> jdm: able to reproduce the osx leaks on try?
# [17:13] <jdm> RyanVM: haven't tried.
# [17:13] <RyanVM> philor: just closed it
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# [17:13] <philor> RyanVM: hah, I won the close-race!
# [17:13] <philor> oh, wait, last one wins
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# [17:13] <RyanVM> ah, the patch that's been backed out a few times now
# [17:14] <RyanVM> nical: ping
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# [17:14] <nical> RyanVM: again ?
# [17:14] <nical> doh
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# [17:15] <nical> try was green yesterday
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# [17:15] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=4b7de1f2b4a0
# [17:16] <RyanVM> nical: try link? and any changes since?
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# [17:18] <nical> RyanVM: there 's yesterday's that was just build and no test, and an older one that was running test, i need to dig i've been using try quite a bit lately
# [17:18] <nical> this patch msotly renames stuff
# [17:18] <nical> it almost doesn't affect logic
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# [17:19] <@bsmedberg> I think we should flip all our typedefs around to be "int typedef a;"
# [17:19] <@bsmedberg> just to honor Raymond Chen's jokes
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# [17:20] <froydnj> glandium: clang-format looks like a reasonable starting place, at least
# [17:21] <RyanVM> nical: do you hve a green try run w/ tests of what landed on inbound?
# [17:22] <glandium> froydnj: yeah, tools like ident have been pretty useless so far, it's nice that we're finally getting nice things thanks to llvm and clang
# [17:22] <glandium> bsmedberg: want to add random "typedef;" too?
# [17:22] <froydnj> can't wait for the inevitable "but the tool doesn't support my preferred formatting"
# [17:23] <@bsmedberg> yep... confusing code is better code, right?
# [17:24] <Yoric> mak: I have a new and interesting segfault. Do you have any idea what could lead to the following stack?
# [17:24] <Yoric> mak: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2343494
# [17:24] <Yoric> (mozStorageService.cpp:f806a4f8b34f : 228 is NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS2)
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# [17:25] <mak> Yoric: at first glance, another release on the wrong thread
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# [17:25] <Yoric> The interesting part is that I don't think we have any instance of nsLocalFile involved there.
# [17:26] <mak> the connection has a localfile pointer, I think
# [17:26] <Yoric> (at least not trivially)
# [17:26] <bent> mak, ping
# [17:26] <mak> bent: hi
# [17:26] <bent> mak, howdy
# [17:26] <mak> bent: pinging me for my question?
# [17:26] <Yoric> Well, yes, but we only ever release the Service once all connections have been released, iirc.
# [17:26] <bent> mak, oh, no... which? (my bugmail backlog is ridiculous)
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# [17:26] <bent> mak, how fortunate for you that I have another question :)
# [17:27] <mak> bent: ah fwiw https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789348#c35
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# [17:28] <mak> Yoric: I think so... you may want to add some more MOZ_ASSERT to check threads where calls are invoked... apart this, I know it's not funny :(
# [17:28] <bent> mak, erk, sounds like we should fix that. Clone to separate bug?
# [17:28] <mak> bent: sure I can, I first wanted to know if it was expected
# [17:28] <RyanVM> nical: k, backing out
# [17:28] <Yoric> mak: Any idea which kind of property I should assert?
# [17:28] <nical> RyanVM: sorry, i'm in a meeting at the same time
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# [17:29] <RyanVM> nical: if you can show a green try run w/ tests, re-land with a CLOBBER update too
# [17:29] <mak> Yoric: NS_IsMainThread and opposite?
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# [17:29] <yzen> Yoric: ping ?
# [17:29] <Yoric> mak: Ok, let's do that.
# [17:29] <Yoric> yzen: pong
# [17:29] <bent> mak, well, hm
# [17:30] <Yoric> mak: thanks
# [17:30] <mak> Yoric: or better in this case, the connection may be created on another thread, iirc there's a pointer to the currentthread instead of mainthread
# [17:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9219b3b1edda - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4b7de1f2b4a0 (bug 856079) for various test failures.
# [17:30] <Yoric> mak: Yes, there's one.
# [17:30] <mak> Yoric: so it becomes "on original thread or on other"
# [17:30] <bent> mak, if there's no way to handle the error then printing seems like the right behavior
# [17:31] <bent> mak, otherwise we'd just fail and the developer would never know
# [17:31] <mak> bent: what I don't understand is the usefulness of an error that nobody can handle...
# [17:31] <bent> mak, well in this case you can handle the error, right?
# [17:31] <bent> by not navigating away and tesring down the docshell
# [17:31] <bent> s/tesring/tearing/
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# [17:31] <mak> bent: so when the user closes the tab I tell the browser that I don't want? :)
# [17:32] <bent> i don't know... it seems like useful information to have
# [17:32] <bent> "why isn't my data in the database?", "oh, it looks like i closed the tab too early"
# [17:33] <mak> ...
# [17:33] <bent> not sure most users can get that, but devs can
# [17:33] <bent> it does seem better than simply not reporting
# [17:33] <bent> and failing
# [17:33] <yzen> Yoric: i saw your feedback for 862570, did you mean failing the test for cases where there actually should be log (the first 2 operations) ?
# [17:33] <RyanVM> ggp: ehsan: getting very close to disabling the webspeech tests due to all the crashiness
# [17:33] <mak> doesn't look like "I closed the tab too early" hasa solution...
# [17:34] <bent> mak, right, if there's a transaction in progress when the page is closed then you get rolled back
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# [17:34] <mak> I though reporting an error up the chain was a way to allow the dev to handle it, but in this case he can't...
# [17:34] <bent> mak, correct. the page is gone
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# [17:35] <mak> so, once the dev notices this error in the console... he can't do anything
# [17:35] <@bz> Is there a known crash bug on jango in today's nightly?
# [17:35] <bent> mak, well, not necessarily
# [17:35] <mak> apart discovering that is ignorable... but he can't ignore it :)
# [17:35] <bent> mak, UI changes could ask people not to close the page while database work is happening, etc
# [17:36] <bent> mak, the point is that without the error in the console there's no indication of what happened at all
# [17:36] <bent> mak, it would just be "sometimes data seems to disappear"
# [17:36] <Yoric> yzen: Well, when you stop the wait with a timeout, there should be a trace that the test has failed.
# [17:36] <mak> I understand that. Unfortunately I need a way to ignore that...
# [17:36] <mak> I suppose I will have to touch the harness again :/
# [17:37] <bent> mak, well, your test hits several uncommon cases so far
# [17:37] <ggp> RyanVM: I'm still trying to figure out bug 855704, seems related to the media code I use so I've been trying to get help from roc (this might be the case for the other bugs as well)
# [17:37] <bent> mak, not that it's wrong, just that your case isn't something we designed for
# [17:37] <ggp> but I don't mind disabling if you see fit, I'm not getting any new information from the bugs
# [17:38] <mak> bent: could be, but I disagree. A page that just wants to store some data is unlikely to ask the user if he really wants to close the tab, everytime
# [17:38] <bent> mak, er, designed *well* for
# [17:38] <bent> mak, if the data is valuable i bet it would
# [17:38] <bent> mak, your data is the difference here
# [17:38] <@ehsan> RyanVM: ah hrm, I know nothing about those tests
# [17:38] <bent> mak, "unimportant" data
# [17:39] <RyanVM> ehsan: one of them was linked to code you landed recently
# [17:39] <ggp> RyanVM: and you may have meant eeejay rather than ehsan :)
# [17:39] <mak> bent: that makes sense, but I don't really think common developers have that level of understanding, they will just issue transactions
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# [17:39] <RyanVM> ggp: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=864709#c15
# [17:39] <@ehsan> RyanVM: if you find out that I have landed webspeech stuff, you should revoke my ssh key ;)
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# [17:39] <bent> mak, sure, and then when users report data missing they can at least say "check your error log"
# [17:40] <@ehsan> oh wait
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# [17:40] <ggp> RyanVM: oh, I missed that, sorry
# [17:40] <mak> bent: ok, so, I need to find a workaround since this error is wanted
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# [17:41] <bent> mak, i think so, yeah
# [17:41] <bent> mak, we could do several things
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# [17:41] <bent> mak, we could have some kind of testing pref that you could set to suppress these
# [17:42] <bent> mak, or we could change your test
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# [17:42] <bent> mak, or we could fiddle with the harness
# [17:42] <bent> mak, i like the last option the least fwiw
# [17:42] <mak> bent: it's not my test, is any test using about:home, there are 3 or 4 tests
# [17:42] <@ehsan> RyanVM: so, did this start just yesterday?
# [17:42] <mak> bent: and likely in future any other m-c test using a page that uses indexedDB
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# [17:42] <mak> ehr, m-b test
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# [17:43] <bent> mak, well, the other browser tests that use idb just wait for everything to finish before moving on
# [17:43] <bent> mak, so it's not a problem there
# [17:43] <mak> do we have other browser tests?
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# [17:43] <bent> mak, yep, all around the quota/prompt stuff
# [17:44] <mak> ah I see, they use custom events and wait for them
# [17:44] <mak> lots of complication, though
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# [17:44] <bent> mak, also the page thumbnail stuff uses idb internally, i hope they have tests...
# [17:44] <bent> er wait
# [17:44] <bent> i'm thinking workers
# [17:44] <bent> hm
# [17:45] <bent> mak, i'm fine adding a way to turn this off for tests
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# [17:45] <bent> mak, since it's really just a user-visible diagnostic
# [17:45] <mak> I will evaluate solutions in the current harness, for example these tests are exiting on uncaught exceptions but one of them has expectUncaughtExceptions(), that doesn't look right
# [17:46] <mak> btw, thanks for the answer
# [17:46] <bent> hm
# [17:46] <bent> i forgot about that
# [17:46] <bent> expectUncaughtExceptions should work
# [17:46] <bent> i wonder why it doesn't...
# [17:46] <@ehsan> padenot: are you around for a quick review?
# [17:47] <bent> mak, so back to my original ping, if you're ready?
# [17:47] <mak> bent: sure
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# [17:47] <padenot> ehsan: yup
# [17:47] <RyanVM> ehsan: the crashiness certainly got worse in the last day or so
# [17:48] <RyanVM> ehsan: there's been other flakiness too, but that's more for ggp :)
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# [17:48] <bent> mak, so i talked with asuth over the workweek and we were both agreed that we should enable extended error results for all mozstorage connections at creation time
# [17:48] <bent> mak, rather than flipping them on/off when we care
# [17:48] <@ehsan> RyanVM: fwiw these tests are incorrectly blamed, but I have an idea why this happens...
# [17:48] <bent> mak, since it shows up in profiles sometimes
# [17:48] <bent> mak, (it has to grab the connection mutex to change it...)(
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# [17:49] <bent> mak, but that would mean in all the places where we do |if (srv == SQLITE_FULL)|, etc. we'd have to bitmask
# [17:49] <bent> mak, does this sound ok to you?
# [17:49] <mak> bent: yeah, I seem to recall it was never done due to compatibility
# [17:49] <bent> mak, addons?
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# [17:50] <mak> bent: it was lots of time ago, may not matter actually...
# [17:51] <yzen> Yoric: so to differentiate between the tests that are expected to reject and not, i should propagate the flag down to the inDebugTest? was that what you had in mind?
# [17:51] <Yoric> yzen: I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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# [17:51] <bent> mak, ok, so no objections then?
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# [17:52] <mak> bent: at first glance I think it's fine, though there's some bug archeology to do, to verify reasons it was not done originally
# [17:52] <mak> bent: and surely we may improve bitmasking with some macros
# [17:52] <bent> yeah
# [17:53] <Yoric> yzen: At the moment, your setTimeout calls |waitObservation.resolve()|.
# [17:53] <mak> bent: so, please file the bug, unless it's filed already
# [17:53] <yzen> Yoric: sorry :), so you are suggesting wrapping waitObservation.promise in try-catch, and fail if catch is unexpected (e.g. for the first 2 operations) but not for the last one where we actually expect rejection ?
# [17:53] <Yoric> i.e. there is no difference between a success and a failure
# [17:53] <Yoric> yzen: If it were to call |waitObservation.reject()|, this would cause a failure that we could catch at the |yield waitObservation.promise|.
# [17:54] <yzen> Yoric: right , so currently i catch it in testFileDescriptorsLeaks
# [17:54] <yzen> where a boolean is passed
# [17:54] <Yoric> yzen: And also around line 880.
# [17:56] <yzen> Yoric: ok , so then I should probably not wrap inDebugTest itself if i do it internally ..
# [17:56] <Yoric> yzen: What do you mean?
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# [17:57] <Yoric> mak: Indeed, it seems that we have several connections opened from the same thread but released from different threads.
# [17:57] <yzen> Yoric: are you suggesting i should wrap in try-catch twice ?
# [17:57] <Yoric> yzen: If I understand what you write, I think so.
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# [17:58] <yzen> Yoric: oh ok , i for some reason thought it will not yield an exception if it's caught already
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# [17:58] <bent> mak, ok, thanks!
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# [17:59] <Yoric> yzen: If you do |deferred.reject()|, the corresponding promise will yield an exception.
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# [17:59] <Yoric> The exception is then caught using the general rules for exceptions.
# [17:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0268b65bc46 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 860759 - Don't treat pinned sites as bookmarks unless they are bookmarks. r=bnicholson
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# [18:02] <yzen> Yoric: ok got it, but i guess the only point of confusion i had was, if i wrap it in try catch, i would not want to always test.fail would i ?
# [18:02] <mkaply> I haven't done this in a while, so forgive my newbie question. What's the quickest way in a Mozila CPP file to printf some output (preferably to the actual console in Firefox, not console window).
# [18:02] <mkaply> dump?
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# [18:02] <Yoric> mkaply: printf_stderr?
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# [18:03] <Yoric> yzen: Well, |try { yield myPromise; test.ok(true, "myTest") } catch (ex) { test.ok(false, "myTest"); } | or something such.
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# [18:05] <yzen> Yoric: but what happens when it's expected to not log anything ?
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# [18:05] <Yoric> yzen: Well, do the opposite :)
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# [18:06] <mkaply> this is just for debugging
# [18:06] <Yoric> i.e. resolve the promise in the timeout, reject it if something is logged
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# [18:16] <@ehsan> padenot: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=741366&action=edit
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# [18:21] <ioana> does anybody know how I can get a count of all the open windows (private + regular) in a browser test?
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# [18:29] <sewardj> jmaher: ping
# [18:29] <mkaply> If I update nsSearchService.js in toolkit/components, what's the quickest way to get my update in a build without building from the top leve
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# [18:34] <mcsmurf> mkaply: with the new build system on mozilla-central?
# [18:34] <mkaply> mcsmurf: Yeah, I think so. I just checked out last week.
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# [18:36] <jmaher> sewardj: pong
# [18:37] <sewardj> jmaher: still running reftests on android .. is there some startup timeout involved?
# [18:38] <jmaher> not that i am aware of, can you pastebin the output?
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# [18:40] <mcsmurf> mkaply: hm, I would use pymake -C toolkit/components/search/ chrome
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# [18:40] <mcsmurf> mkaply: but that's probably not the best way these days..
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# [18:40] <mcsmurf> mkaply: actually no "chrome"
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# [18:41] <sewardj> jmaher: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2343583
# [18:41] <mcsmurf> mkaply: I though people have talked about ./mach doing all the magic
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# [18:41] <mcsmurf> but not sure if this was already reality or "would like to have this feature"
# [18:41] <mkaply> mcsmurf: I honestly have no idea. I haven't built Firefox in a very long time.
# [18:41] <sewardj> jmaher: this is when trying to start reftests on valgrind. It seems like Fennec is actually still alive, but the host side has given up waiting for it (??)
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# [18:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e929e505033 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 864709 - Part 1: Hold a strong reference to the AudioNodeStream before calling ProduceOutput on it; r=padenot
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# [18:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5eeaecafb989 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 864709 - Part 2: Protect accesses to AudioNodeEngine::mNode using a lock; r=padenot
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# [18:42] <sewardj> jmaher: lines 112 and 114 in the pastebin concern me
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# [18:45] <jmaher> sewardj: what else need to occur when you do valgrind? is there some other piece that is getting blocked?
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# [18:45] <sewardj> jmaher: no .. it's just massively slow to start up, but shouldn't "look" any different otherwise
# [18:46] <sewardj> jmaher: it probably takes a couple of minutes easily to get fennec started
# [18:46] <jmaher> sewardj: ok, now I understand your initial question
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# [18:50] <mcsmurf> mkaply: but you could ask in #build how to do what you want to do these days
# [18:51] <mcsmurf> mkaply: maybe "mach" can do it
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# [19:10] <glandium> do we have a thread-safe variant of mozilla::RefPtr in the tree?
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# [19:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7a0a407d1ce - Chris Peterson - Bug 864339 - Fix "New Private Tab" crash when unzipping a bitmap resource. r=glandium
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# [19:11] <jmaher> sewardj: my theory on your issue is that we launch the process, then go into our polling loop to watch for the process to end- If the process takes >30 seconds to start, we could have problems
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# [19:11] <h4writer> RyanVM, seems like you are keeping a good eye on the branches :D. Sorry I didn't answer myself, but I see you got already the answer to your question ;)
# [19:12] <RyanVM> h4writer: that's my job :)
# [19:13] <h4writer> RyanVM, FYI I will request additional fuzzing on aurora, since we won't see any problems on m-i/m-c regarding that issue ;)
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# [19:13] <RyanVM> sounds good
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# [19:13] <tbsaunde> glandium: NS_INLINE_DECL_THREADSAFE_REFCOUNTING(class)?
# [19:13] <h4writer> RyanVM, I don't expect any other issues, but better save than sorry
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# [19:16] <cpeterson> Has anyone using "BugzillaJS" addon had problems with it persisting its preferences? Or is it just me? :|
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# [19:17] <glandium> tbsaunde: thanks, but that's not in mfbt ; i guess i'll have to wait for the atomic ops support for mfbt
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# [19:17] <glandium> froydnj: will you finish bug 732043?
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# [19:19] <tbsaunde> glandium: its true
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# [19:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0921c42708f2 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 861138: Remove landscape resources for browser-toolbar. [r=mfinkle]
# [19:51] <mbrubeck> Looks like jwir3|away managed to cancel out roc's Dromaeo CSS regression... if they landed closer together we wouldn't even have noticed.
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# [19:52] <Gijs> What's the opposite of hg qnew?
# [19:52] <rillian> hg qdel?
# [19:53] <@khuey> anyone know of any good web based diagramming software that outputs SVG?
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# [19:53] <Gijs> as in, get rid of this commit, but leave the changes in the working dir?
# [19:53] <Gijs> rillian: that only works if it's not applied, and then I don't have the changes anymore, right?
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# [19:53] <rillian> Gijs: right, not what you want
# [19:53] <Gijs> nope :(
# [19:53] <@khuey> Gijs: there's no direct opposite
# [19:53] <Ms2ger> Gijs, |hg qref -X .|, but that doesn't remove the empty patch
# [19:53] <mbrubeck> git reset --mixed
# [19:53] <mbrubeck> <trollface>
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# [19:54] <pdr> khuey: Google docs' drawing tool outputs SVG
# [19:54] <@khuey> qref -X . && qdel foo is probably what you want
# [19:54] <@khuey> pdr: oh yeah? neat
# [19:54] <Ms2ger> khuey, won't work, foo is still applied
# [19:54] <pdr> khuey: it leaves much to be desired, but it does work
# [19:54] <Gijs> khuey: with && qpop in the middle, but yeah.
# [19:54] <@khuey> Ms2ger: mmm need a qpop then
# [19:54] <Ms2ger> And you can't qpop with uncommitted changes :)
# [19:54] * Mook_as wonders if Gijs just wants something to merge two patches together or something
# [19:54] <@khuey> pdr: thanks I'll try that
# [19:55] <Gijs> Mook_as: I want to split a patch with qrecord :(
# [19:55] <bajaj> bsmedberg: ping
# [19:55] <Gijs> I suppose I can leave the patch for that.
# [19:55] <Gijs> khuey: btw, want to review my 1-line crashfix in bug 865147? :)
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# [19:56] <@khuey> Gijs: not right this second ;-)
# [19:56] <Gijs> khuey: drat! ;)
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# [19:57] <@bsmedberg> bajaj: pong
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# [19:57] <@khuey> Gijs: I'll do reviews at some point, kinda busy right now
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# [19:58] <Gijs> khuey: no worries!
# [19:59] <bajaj> bsmedberg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860052#c15 can you please give some input on what the next steps could be here ? Thanks
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# [20:01] <@bsmedberg> bajaj: ok commented. Short form is it's java on Linux and I don't think we should care
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# [20:04] <bajaj> bsmedberg: got it ,thanks ! will follow up on the bug
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# [20:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff6868ca5426 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 863803 - Part 1: Prevent multiple AboutHome fragments from being created after restore. r=lucasr
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# [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d558c2172bcd - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 858141 - Don't assert on EVENT_AUDIO_ERROR while on STATE_ESTIMATING. r=smaug
# [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d73d6d6be727 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 863852 - Part 2 - Handle reentrance in the state machine. r=smaug
# [20:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0b61756db38 - Guilherme Gonçalves - Bug 863813 - Only call the done function once per test, failure or success. r=smaug
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# [20:15] <johns> Land patches seconds before inbound closes http://goo.gl/qNXFj
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# [20:18] <cpeterso_> johns: I was picturing Indy even before I clicked your link! :)
# [20:18] <nemo> hm. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Tutorials/Using_CSS_flexible_boxes is out of date
# [20:18] <nemo> claims no IE support, which is incorrect
# [20:18] <nemo> -ms- in IE10
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# [20:19] <@bz> nemo: fixit?
# [20:20] <nemo> bz: no access? :-p
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# [20:20] <mbrubeck> nemo: There's a note at the bottom saying IE10 (like Safari) uses old syntax... is that still accurate?
# [20:21] <nemo> mbrubeck: ah. it does say that. I missed that... :(
# [20:21] * nemo fails
# [20:21] <nemo> well. that still counts as *some* support :)
# [20:21] <nemo> but. yes. is noted. my bad
# [20:21] <Ms2ger> nemo, you should have access... Otherwise shout in #devmo
# [20:21] <nemo> hm. what was the actual legit complaint I had the other day on the wiki... something... in transitions
# [20:21] * nemo checks to see if it is fixed
# [20:23] <nemo> ah yes. the common pattern on the naughty wiki demos of only using prefixed examples :(
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# [20:23] <RyanVM> johns: funny, I feel like Indy running away from the boulder quite often :)
# [20:24] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/samples/cssref/transitions/sample2/ <- naughty
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# [20:24] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/samples/cssref/animations/cssanim1.html <- naughty
# [20:24] <nemo> etc :-p
# [20:24] <johns> Software development: It's a lot like indiana jones, actually
# [20:24] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Tutorials/Using_CSS_animations - linked from here and
# [20:24] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Tutorials/Using_CSS_transitions here
# [20:25] <nemo> screws IE10 for starters
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# [20:25] <mbrubeck> I'm not sure whether regular users can edit stuff in /samples... if we can, I don't know how
# [20:25] <mbrubeck> https://developer.mozilla.org/samples/cssref/animations/cssanim1.html$edit doesn't work
# [20:26] <ochameau> is there a try syntax to build b2g desktop runtime and run xpcshell b2g tests?
# [20:26] <mbrubeck> Maybe we could replace that link with an attached file, which regular users *can* add/change?
# [20:26] * nemo shrugs
# [20:27] <nemo> I'm just surprised they were written that way in the first place. Someone w/ that level of CSS familiarity you would think would be very conscientious about prefixing w/ unprefixed fallback :)
# [20:27] <nemo> although. I guess, in fairness. specs change, and people forget to update previews
# [20:27] <nemo> and. there was no -ms- at the time
# [20:27] <mbrubeck> nemo: Well, it's debatable whether to encourage people to use the unprefixed version before any browsers support it
# [20:27] <Ms2ger> Prefixing? 1999 called, they want their policy back :)
# [20:27] <mbrubeck> since that would constrain... yeah, what you said.
# [20:28] <nemo> mbrubeck: I always put unprefixed. it's just a good bet
# [20:28] <nemo> mbrubeck: yes, it screwed me w/ gradients, but it usually works out well
# [20:28] <nemo> even border-radius, the -moz- syntax didn't deviate enough to screw me up anywhere.
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# [20:29] <nemo> actually. the unprefixed gradient syntax is same for simple gradients too. but ofc doesn't take much to move away from that
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# [20:31] <RyanVM> ochameau: ping
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# [20:31] <ochameau> RyanVM: pong
# [20:31] <RyanVM> ochameau: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22199239&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [20:31] <RyanVM> second time today I've seen a JP 60s timeout
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# [20:34] <ochameau> RyanVM: on this particular test?
# [20:36] <@bz> Do we have any sort of general ETA on inbound?
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# [20:36] <@bz> like "tens of minutes", or like "hours", or "unknown"?
# [20:36] <RyanVM> ochameau: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22183878&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [20:36] <RyanVM> closer to the former
# [20:36] <RyanVM> I think things are already clearing up
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# [20:37] <@bz> ok
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# [20:37] <RyanVM> bz: i'll ping you when I reopen
# [20:37] <@bz> RyanVM: awesome, thanks
# [20:38] <ochameau> RyanVM: these timeout are scary, I'll report back to jetpack team (note that I'm slowly moving to ff os simulator)
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# [20:38] <RyanVM> ok
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# [20:38] <RyanVM> ochameau: I'll just file for now, I guess
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# [20:40] <ochameau> RyanVM: looks like the best actionable item for now
# [20:40] <RyanVM> bz: inbound's open
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# [20:42] <JosiahOne> dao: Ping.
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# [20:42] <RyanVM> ochameau: who all should I be CCing to these bugs these days?
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# [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d38a000208e9 - Joel Maher - Bug 865361 - deploy talos.zip to print additional datazilla upload information to the log file. r=armenzg
# [20:43] <RyanVM> adw++
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# [20:46] <ochameau> RyanVM: all new bugs should be triaged once per week, if you want more traction, you should cc Mossop
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# [20:46] <RyanVM> ok
# [20:48] * @bz is glad he is testing his stuff
# [20:48] <@bz> this review lag is not pretty. :(
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# [20:51] <mkaply> Is NSS still maintained well?
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# [20:51] <Mossop> RyanVM: I plan to go over intermittent failure bugs tomorrow and make sure they have owners
# [20:52] <mkaply> To ask the question better, does Mozilla employee anyone to work on NSS/PSM?
# [20:52] <@gavin> mkaply: yes
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# [20:52] <RyanVM> Mossop: nice, thanks :)
# [20:52] <dholbert> mkaply, bsmith in particular
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# [20:54] <mkaply> ok, so he was the right person to ask for review. cool. Tx.
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# [20:58] <mkaply> hmm. Relay access deniged on mail to enterprise@moaillz.org
# [20:58] <mkaply> mozilla.org
# [20:58] <mkaply> is mozilla.org having issues?
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# [20:59] <@smaug> moaillz.org ?
# [20:59] <mkaply> status.mozilla.com isn't loading right now...
# [20:59] <mkaply> That seems bad
# [20:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f425624e8d8e - Olli Pettay - Bug 865076, follow the XPCOM rules when using parent pointer, r=mccr8
# [20:59] <Gijs> mkaply: there are intermittent DNS failures according to the topic in #it
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# [21:00] <RyanVM> go for it
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# [21:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9129688d03de - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 862629 part 1. Stop playing compartment games with WebIDL callbacks and just use the given object as-is. r=peterv
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# [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6a0fd976a43 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 799816. Try to not have preload sheets (or other unreferenced sheets) hanging out in our mCompleteSheets hashtable. r=dbaron
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# [21:11] <@ehsan> bz: ping
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# [21:15] <msucan> RyanVM: pong
# [21:15] <RyanVM> is anyone looking at the mochitest b-c failures on fx-team?
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# [21:16] <@bz> ehsan: ack, but might disappear in a few mins
# [21:16] <@bz> ehsan: what's up?
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# [21:16] <@ehsan> bzum: are you around for a quick review?
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# [21:16] <msucan> RyanVM: i am not aware of them nor if anyone is looking into it
# [21:17] <givanica> does anyone know if proposal submission on the GSoC site can be edited later ?
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# [21:17] <RyanVM> msucan: I commented in the bug that I think is responsible. Just wanted to make sure you saw before anyone does something crazy like merge fx-team to m-c :)
# [21:17] <msucan> RyanVM: just checked and it looks like a backout is in order
# [21:17] <RyanVM> ttaubert ^
# [21:17] <@ehsan> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865004, fwiw
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# [21:17] <msucan> RyanVM: which bug?
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# [21:17] <@bz> ehsan: looking
# [21:17] <RyanVM> msucan: looks like bug 815120 is when they started
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# [21:18] <msucan> RyanVM: thanks. i didn't follow that bug
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# [21:20] <@ehsan> bz: yeah :/
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# [21:30] <JosiahOne> mconley: I was curious. For the customization panel/ "The Panel". It currently allows anything to be added to it. In other words, for the zoom-controls. We have zoom-out-button, zoom-separator (Just an element), and zoom-in-button. If you drag this zoom-controls to the new panel, the little separator is still drawn. Is it possible to ignore "elements", or should is there something else I could use?
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# [21:31] <ttaubert> RyanVM: I should merge fx-team now?
# [21:31] <JosiahOne> mconley: Err, get rid of that last "should".
# [21:31] <mconley> JosiahOne: only allowing certain items is a capability that we want, but we haven't gotten there yet
# [21:31] <RyanVM> ttaubert: only if you want to bring frequent orange along for the ride :)
# [21:31] <JosiahOne> mconley: Okay. So if I use element for now that will be fine down the road?
# [21:32] <philor> it's not quite permaorange, though!
# [21:32] <mconley> JosiahOne: sorry, what do you mean by "use element"?
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# [21:32] <RyanVM> philor: so somewhere on-par with android you're saying
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# [21:32] <ttaubert> RyanVM: no... was just kidding anyway :)
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# [21:33] <JosiahOne> mconley: Whoops. I meant if I use an element property instead of toolbaritem, that will work fine down the road right?
# [21:33] * JosiahOne Is not positive what those things are actually called. Type?
# [21:33] <JosiahOne> toolbaritem, toolbarbutton, menupopup, etc. I don't know the technical name for those.
# [21:34] <JosiahOne> mconley: Does that make any sense at all?
# [21:35] <mconley> JosiahOne: I think we're restricting to the same set as before - ie, https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/customizeToolbar.js#598
# [21:35] <mconley> see those three functions
# [21:36] <JosiahOne> mconley: Okay. See I made mine an "element". And although it is not turning it into a button, you can still see the little line. Maybe I shouldn't use "element"
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# [21:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50e931146b0e - JosiahOne - Bug 425561 - Make all sidebars (Including inside Organizer) lighter and consistent. r=dao, ui-r=shorlander
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# [21:49] <mconley> JosiahOne: np!
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# [21:51] <yzen> Yoric: ping if you have one more sec
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# [21:54] <yzen> Yoric: im still a little confused about your comment, would you clarify once more, why test.ok(expectResolve, "..") in try and test.ok(!expectResolve, "..") in catch inside testFileDescriptorsLeaks is not sufficient ?
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# [21:58] <Yoric> yzen: That should work nicely for testFileDescriptorLeaks. My main issue is that you are not doing the same thing for directories.
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# [22:01] <yzen> Yoric: ohhhh, that's what you mean :) ok . so you want a test.fail if it was rejected for a directory. I would think i can just wrap that call for dir in try externally and fail if rejected, does that sounds good ?
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# [22:01] <Yoric> Sorry I wasn't clearer.
# [22:01] <Yoric> Lack of sleep.
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# [22:02] <yzen> Yoric: :) i should ask clearer questions , ok i get it now let me post something and see what you think
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# [22:02] <Yoric> That sounds like a plan :)
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# [22:06] <fabrice> blassey: I'll merge your gaia PR once I understand why the Travis tests are failing
# [22:06] <lassey> fabrice: thanks
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# [22:09] <aja> latest win hourly ^
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# [22:15] <aja> ^ mismatched tag line 2926
# [22:16] <mconley> aja: ah, yep, bug 865419
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# [22:16] <aja> k...cool
# [22:16] <mconley> aja: fix landed about 6 min ago
# [22:16] <yzen> Yoric: should be better now :)
# [22:16] <Yoric> yzen: cool :)
# [22:16] <Yoric> I'll try and look at this tomorrow morning.
# [22:17] <yzen> thank you :)
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# [22:21] <@ehsan> BenWa: have you seen bug 634839?
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# [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06b0f332039d - Lucas Rocha - Bug 858687 - Rename browser_toolbar_menu.xml to browser_toolbar.xml (r=mfinkle)
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# [22:28] <@ehsan> hmm
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# [22:30] <RyanVM> ok
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# [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/787287a94cc4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 089871cdaf1e (bug 865004) because of crashtest leaks on a CLOSED TREE
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# [23:09] <abr> I'm looking into whether it's possible to run GC/CC over a specified graph or set of graphs rather than the entire universe. Is that supported?
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# [23:09] <mccr8> abr: for GC, you can specify a set of compartments. it isn't possible for CC.
# [23:09] <mccr8> abr: why do you want to do that?
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# [23:10] <abr> The PeerConnection objects that we use are part of a five-object graph (currently with cycles, although I might be able to break them) rooted in content JS.
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# [23:11] <abr> The problem is that they take up significant host resources, and we'd like some way to collect them more aggressively than normal objects to avoid resource exhaustion.
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# [23:11] <abr> But that's a long-term problem at the moment.
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# [23:12] <abr> mccr8 -- The more immediate need we have is a shutdown issue where we're getting collected after the thread manager has already shut down. In our destructors, we have to dispatch some cleanup events to the main thread, but they fail if we're being collected at that point.
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# [23:12] <sfink> abr: a JS object can hold them alive? Depending on GC timing for freeing up host resources (other than memory) seems bad.
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# [23:13] <abr> sfink: The host resources are network resources. The purpose for PeerConnections to exist are to represent network resources. It's kind of hard to avoid. :)
# [23:13] <mccr8> abr: well, for the long term problem, there's some mechanism (the name escapes me at the moment) where you can tell the GC that you are larger than you appear to be, which will make it GC more.
# [23:13] <mccr8> malloc bytes or something
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# [23:14] <abr> mccr8: will that work wth cycles too, or do I need to turn the whole thing into a DAG?
# [23:15] <mixedpuppy> I just pulled m-c and am getting a build error in nsNSSCertificateDB.cpp on osx. any suggestions?
# [23:15] <mccr8> abr: I guess any JS stuff you have is being held alive by C++ stuff? so maybe that's not the right solution.
# [23:15] <mccr8> abr: there's no similar mechanism for the CC, unfortunately.
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# [23:16] <mccr8> abr: for the shutdown issue, can you do something like listen for XPCOM shutdown and just blow away the peer connection objects somehow?
# [23:16] <@smaug> nsJSContext::LikelyShortLivingObjectCreated() a bit similar, yet different mechanism for CC
# [23:16] <abr> mccr8: It's actually backwards from that. Any C++ stuff we have is being held alive by JS stuff.
# [23:16] <mccr8> ah ok
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# [23:16] <@smaug> (but I think webrtc needs something very different to nsJSContext::LikelyShortLivingObjectCreated() )
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# [23:17] <abr> mccr8: So I'm happy to listen for shutdown and blow away the objects, but the only way I know to make that happen is to trigger GC.
# [23:17] <abr> Which is why I was asking whether there was a way to GC just certain objects.
# [23:18] <mccr8> abr: you can't null out whatever things you have that hold alive the thread stuff?
# [23:18] <sewardj> RyanVM: you good for a trychooser syntax question?
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# [23:18] <RyanVM> maybe
# [23:18] <@smaug> abr: why can't you just diconnect/close everything when handling xpcom-shutdown
# [23:18] <sewardj> RyanVM: used "try: -b do -p android,android-armv6,android-noion,android-x86 -u reftest -t none" to try and get reftests on android
# [23:18] <@smaug> no need to blow away everything
# [23:19] <@smaug> objects can stay alive, but they are just non-operational
# [23:19] <sewardj> RyanVM: but it just seemd to do the build, and not run any tests: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b4acf620d2f5
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# [23:20] <abr> smaug -- interesting approach. Yeah, that might work, although it seems needlessly complex, given that we're sure these objects are about to be cleaned up anyway. I think we could avoid this whole class of problem if I could just trigger GC on them at XPCOM shutdown.
# [23:20] <@smaug> please don't trigger GC
# [23:20] <@smaug> it slows down shutdown process
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# [23:21] <@smaug> we've tried hard to remove any extra GCs
# [23:21] <sewardj> RyanVM: did I use the wrong syntax?
# [23:21] <mccr8> abr: the smallest granularity you can trigger GCs on is a compartment, and I assume these PeerConnection things are living in content compartments which can be pretty big.
# [23:21] <abr> smaug -- I didn't want to GC the world, just these objects. If you read scrollback, that's how I started the conversation: I wanted to know if there was a way to GC a subset of objects.
# [23:21] <philor> sewardj: that's because to make our life miserable, we made reftests-on-android not be -u reftest, but -u plain-reftest-1,plain-reftest-2,plain-reftest-3,plain-reftest-4
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# [23:21] <RyanVM> that's what I was about to say :)
# [23:21] <@smaug> well, GC is about the world, or compartment ...
# [23:22] <abr> mccr8: Okay, triggering a compartment cleanup sounds lke it'll be too heavyweight also.
# [23:22] <@smaug> and it is hard to know which compartments are involved in the cycle
# [23:22] <sewardj> philor: gr8 ! ok, thanks ... I'm glad I asked!
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# [23:22] <mccr8> abr: the problem with doing a GC is that you can't be entirely sure that whatever is holding you alive has gone away, I'd think
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# [23:23] <dougt> anyone know why we are writing 0 characters everywhere on yammer?
# [23:23] <abr> Okay, I'll go poke at releasing these resources at XPCOM shutdown rather than trying to make the graph go away. Thanks.
# [23:24] <sewardj> philor: so .. "-u all" should actually succeed in running reftests (and a bunch of other stuff) ?
# [23:24] <philor> sewardj: right, that'll get you all the reftests, but also the crashtests and mochitests and robocop
# [23:25] <sewardj> philor: that's ok. In hindsight I think i'd prefer to have more tests anyway
# [23:25] <mccr8> abr: yeah I think that's the best approach, because then you'll be 100% sure it will go away. GCing will probably result in weird things keeping it alive sometimes, in addition to the perf problems.
# [23:25] <abr> mccr8: Okay, cool. Thanks for your help (and yours too, smaug)
# [23:26] <mccr8> np
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