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  28. # [00:31] <NeilAway> is dholbert our c++ warnings guru?
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  44. # [01:01] <NeilAway> huh, is Windows 7 stupid or something?
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  49. # [01:07] <philor> huh, is peterv breaking stuff?
  50. # [01:07] <WG9s> NeilAway: well my personal opinion is that Windows/XP was the only not-stupid version of Windows. However Windows 7 is the next less stupid version.
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  54. # [01:11] <NeilAway> WG9s: yeah, well it won't let me copy text from the console window when the app crashes :s
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  58. # [01:15] <WG9s> oh yes i hve had that.
  59. # [01:15] <WG9s> how stupid
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  72. # [01:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b63238518a3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 855971, bug 820846) because of browser-chrome test failures
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  100. # [01:53] <thomaslee> Man, are the trolls on the bug tracker always so vicious? haha
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  102. # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc6ab8b33ec7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868783 - Fix rooting hazards in nsXBLSerialize.cpp; r=till
  103. # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2869e8de267f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868782 - Fix rooting hazards in txMozillaXSLTProcessor.cpp; r=till
  104. # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb15fa84d8d9 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868784 - Fix rooting hazards in nsCrypto.cpp; r=till
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  116. # [02:00] <till> ehsan: that's the last one for today, going to bed now
  117. # [02:00] <@ehsan> till: fair enough :)
  118. # [02:00] <@ehsan> till: thanks for the prompt reviews!
  119. # [02:01] <till> ehsan: keep 'em coming, though, I'll happily do more reviews tomorrow
  120. # [02:01] <till> ehsan: no problem at all, these are easy enough to review :)
  121. # [02:01] <@ehsan> :)
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  124. # [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e500bc167b4e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868785 - Fix rooting hazards in TestStartupCache.cpp; r=till
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  180. # [03:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a60a6e9d9b8 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 865785 part 2. Fix rooting issues in JS-implemented webidl. r=mccr8
  181. # [03:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adaaf6641785 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 855971 - Switch HTMLDocument to WebIDL bindings. r=bz.
  182. # [03:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fc3d4e62179 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 820846 - Modify the ListBase IC to work with [OverrideBuiltins] bindings, codegen changes and make HTMLDocument OverrideBuiltins. r=bz.
  183. # [03:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1531a6ec12c1 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 865785 part 1. Go back to passing a JSContext* to the constructors for JS-implemented interfaces. r=mccr8
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  266. # [06:12] <philor> mmm, this could be bad - I cargo-culted a patch, but it looks like it might actually work and then I'll have to explain why
  267. # [06:15] <@bz_away> Blame it on the yankees?
  268. # [06:16] <philor> I do deserve the cargo
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  271. # [06:26] <philor> hmm, still no failures, and I would have expected some by now, how am I going to explain https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/f22907f883aa?
  272. # [06:28] <philor> "the gods want us to not kill WinXP slaves by running the webgl suite on them, but they don't know how unless we show them a field with a CC and two GCs in it"?
  273. # [06:28] <@bz_away> well, so
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  275. # [06:28] <@bz_away> I can perhaps understand why the CC is needed
  276. # [06:28] <@bz_away> Why two GCs are needed instead of one....
  277. # [06:28] * @bz_away has no idea
  278. # [06:29] <@bz_away> Also, usually it would be something like "for (i = 0; i < 3; ++i) { cc(); gc(); }"
  279. # [06:29] <@bz_away> or something
  280. # [06:29] <@bz_away> so you're getting off lightly
  281. # [06:30] <philor> I haven't actually tried just one GC yet, I was just blindly copying from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/tests/chrome/test_watchpoints.xul#57 and friends
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  283. # [06:30] <@bz_away> ok
  284. # [06:31] <@bz_away> well, the CC is needed because webgl stuff has cycles
  285. # [06:31] <@bz_away> so just a GC won't clean it up
  286. # [06:32] <philor> if I'm terse, and don't try to overexplain, I should be able to sell that :)
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  289. # [06:35] <@bz_away> heh
  290. # [06:35] <@bz_away> can't you land it with "rs=monkeys" or something? ;)
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  293. # [06:37] <philor> r=100greenrunsontry
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  311. # [07:15] <@dolske> take one down, pass it around, r=99greenrunsontry
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  321. # [07:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8eccffccac1c - Alexander Surkov - Bug 865559 - get rid of nsAccessNodeWrap, r=tbsaunde
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  338. # [08:18] <@roc> about to get on a flight
  339. # [08:19] <@roc> looks like a great time to land
  340. # [08:19] <@bz_sleep> you mean take off
  341. # [08:19] * @bz_sleep took a bit to parse what roc was saying... ;)
  342. # [08:19] <@roc> I land patches, plane takes off
  343. # [08:19] <@bz_sleep> right
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  345. # [08:20] <@bz_sleep> tree is green
  346. # [08:20] <@bz_sleep> you should be off the flight before Monday morning, I hope
  347. # [08:20] <@bz_sleep> Go for it. ;)
  348. # [08:22] <firebot> Check-in:
  349. # [08:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f309dacf4010 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 863224. DOMMediaStream should release its internal MediaStream and listener during Unlink to ensure that events running between Unlink and the destruction of the
  350. # [08:22] <firebot> DOMMediaStream don't see the dying object. r=jesup
  351. # [08:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be3cef4b69e3 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 868406. Shut down MediaStreamGraph's thread. r=jesup
  352. # [08:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4609a4efeb39 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 866514. Part 1: Add DOMMediaStream::OnTracksAvailableCallback. r=jesup
  353. # [08:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f110d0270f8e - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 866514. Part 2: Delay delivering getUserMedia stream result until the DOM object has asynchronously acquired the desired tracks. r=jesup
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  366. # [08:42] <philor> great, I do need the double-GC
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  373. # [08:57] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
  374. # [08:58] <Ms2ger> philor, you star my try pushes now? :)
  375. # [08:58] <philor> Ms2ger: now and then
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  377. # [08:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2de391c032f - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 868708 - IonMonkey: ARM, Add Move instruction when we divide by 1. r=mjrosenb
  378. # [09:00] <philor> still chasing back the tiresome regression where we load a log instead of a summary
  379. # [09:01] <philor> which calls for clicking on hundreds of failed test jobs in build after build of Firefox, which calls for more failure than we can usually muster on a weekend
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  382. # [09:03] <Ms2ger> :/
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  386. # [09:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c2df00e9434f - Ms2ger - Bug 868727 - Pass an nsAString to nsGlobalWindow::GetChildWindow; r=bz
  387. # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f5c2a02512d0 - Ms2ger - Bug 866600 - Avoid using nsIDOMDocument::GetHidden; r=mounir
  388. # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c34dd4b67355 - Ms2ger - Bug 866686 - Enable some tests on Android; r=mounir
  389. # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ad75a1285e03 - Ms2ger - Bug 868725 - Pass non-const jschar* to AtomizeAndTakeOwnership; r=evilpie
  390. # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c5dcc0f29ab8 - Ms2ger - Bug 866051 - Make CallArgs a stack class; r=Waldo
  391. # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/581b86706691 - Ms2ger - Bug 866436 - Cleanup the implementation of UIEvent.which; r=smaug
  392. # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1734d1a36463 - Ms2ger - Bug 868411 - Handlify js::GetObjectProto; r=bz
  393. # [09:07] <philor> for extra annoyance, I think I'm back to the same inbound merge that I bisected on inbound and found that every cset in it was good
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  398. # [09:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87ee7b242241 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865248 - Implement ChannelMergerNode; r=roc
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  405. # [09:10] <philor> oh, no I'm not!
  406. # [09:10] <philor> I'm up to... Ms2ger did it!
  407. # [09:10] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
  408. # [09:10] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a6104e0e5a2c
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  410. # [09:10] <philor> (the push, not the cset)
  411. # [09:10] <Ms2ger> Ah
  412. # [09:11] <Ms2ger> The changeset thoroughly surprised me :)
  413. # [09:11] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=a6104e0e5a2c
  414. # [09:12] <philor> which one is the "sometime load the href on a link, even when it has an onclick that returns false"?
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  416. # [09:12] <Ms2ger> Should be none of them :/
  417. # [09:13] <philor> or whatever it is that tbpl actually does
  418. # [09:13] <KWierso|Home> I blame 852135 because it mentions "attributes" :)
  419. # [09:14] <Ms2ger> It's also the only one that should have any web-visible effect, so I'm looking the same way
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  423. # [09:15] <Ms2ger> philor, hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/ is still the right place to go looking?
  424. # [09:15] <philor> yep
  425. # [09:15] <Ms2ger> Gah, jQuery
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  430. # [09:20] <philor> but, yeah, jQuery, https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/file/9af3474be6d7/js/UserInterface.js#l109
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  593. # [13:15] <mjrosenb> in C++, does anyone think it would be error-prone to memcpy a bunch of objects (Vectors, among other things) into a temp buffer, then later memcpy'ing it back to undo the changes?
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  597. # [13:18] <VirajSinha_> felipe: hey
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  606. # [13:36] <Ms2ger> "in C++, does anyone think it would be error-prone"
  607. # [13:36] <Ms2ger> Yes.
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  631. # [13:56] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: well, more error prone than usual.
  632. # [13:57] <mjrosenb> since I suspect I'm not going to get out of writing C++
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  634. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, I dunno, maybe rust? :)
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  638. # [14:01] <jwatt> Ms2ger: what a helpful bug coment you just made :)
  639. # [14:01] <jwatt> Ms2ger: r+'ed by Waldo fwiw
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  641. # [14:02] <Ms2ger> jwatt, well, clearly your bug shows it *is* fishy ;)
  642. # [14:02] <jwatt> not really
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  645. # [14:02] <jwatt> I'm thinking it shows that are linking is very fishy
  646. # [14:03] <jwatt> returning a std::string is a perfectly normal thing to do
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  696. # [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39c44b2b1ef5 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 868556 - We are not using gralloc on b2g anymore - r=vladv
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  705. # [15:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdc859533b8d - Olli Pettay - Bug 848293 - Update AnimationEvent to be compatible with the spec, r=dbaron
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  724. # [16:02] <evilpie> what the heck is window.content ?
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  726. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> It gets some window
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  728. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> It's a Geckoism
  729. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> I think it's window.top for content and something else for chrome
  730. # [16:06] <evilpie> a "Primary Content Shell"
  731. # [16:06] <evilpie> these words mean nothing to me
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  759. # [16:43] <philor> hmm, when did layout get so good about not failing tests?
  760. # [16:43] <philor> I'm filing a reftest failure, and I can barely remember how
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  776. # [17:05] <philor> bjacob: I think I'll just land https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/ebf54de367a7 without review, since if I make you review it you'll have to insist that I explain in the comment why we have to GC twice, and my only explanation is "I copy-pasted it from elsewhere, and it works"
  777. # [17:11] <bjacob> philor: i think that that would be a worthwhile conversation to have, with someone who, contrary to me, is educated enough in GC matters to judge whether it makes sense to call garbageCollect() twice
  778. # [17:11] <bjacob> philor: i have definitely heard "running gc multiple times does make a difference" though, so i could easily be convinced
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  781. # [17:13] <bjacob> philor: in any case, i believe that at least writing a comment making it clear that the 2nd garbagecollect is not a typo, will help ensure that it doesn't get removed by someone else
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  783. # [17:14] <philor> bjacob: well, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7279f6df5bba says it makes sense
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  785. # [17:15] <philor> it's around 10%, I've never gotten fewer than 8 in 100, no matter how many tests I skipped
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  789. # [17:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f958d3fee49f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868485 - Part 2: Add test cases for createBuffer with mono downmixing; r=roc
  790. # [17:19] <bjacob> philor: ok, you can land with r=bjacob
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  792. # [17:20] <philor> thx
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  799. # [17:24] * bjacob is writing an email to dev-platform to kill MathML
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  803. # [17:25] <philor> an entire class of decisions that I'm glad are well above my pay-grade
  804. # [17:26] <glandium> bjacob: why?
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  806. # [17:29] <bjacob> glandium: primarily because _if_ we do want a math-specific web standard, something based on a subset of TeX would be better in all respects. That is however a big if.
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  809. # [17:31] <glandium> bjacob: what is so bad about mathml? that it's xml?
  810. # [17:32] <glandium> and how would something based on a subset of TeX fit on the web? by making it a markup?
  811. # [17:32] <bjacob> glandium: that too. see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML#Example_and_comparison_to_other_formats . Where TeX is close to intuitive notation, MathML is near impossible to handwrite
  812. # [17:33] <glandium> bjacob: the point is that there are editors ; we don't throw away html because markdown is simpler to write
  813. # [17:34] <bjacob> glandium: i don't know that the web wants any math-specific thing. but if it does, TeX is a better choice because contrary to MathML (no significant traction outside of mozilla in 14 years) , TeX is the de-facto standard for math writing. Furthermore, as i explain in that email i'll send very soon, TeX gives better accessibility.
  814. # [17:34] <Ms2ger> Oh?
  815. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> I'll be interested to read it, then :)
  816. # [17:36] <Ms2ger> (Also what the DOM would look like)
  817. # [17:36] <glandium> and, there is http://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/mathml/asciimath.html
  818. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> And how you'd deal with the fact that TeX is a programming language, not a markup language
  819. # [17:37] <VirajSinha> felipe: hey
  820. # [17:37] <glandium> Ms2ger: that too
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  822. # [17:40] <bjacob> Ms2ger: glandium: philor: mail sent
  823. # [17:40] <bjacob> glandium: that asciimath syntax is pretty much TeX i.e. what i'm proposing
  824. # [17:40] <bjacob> glandium: at least the first few examples
  825. # [17:41] <bjacob> up to and including the integral
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  830. # [17:43] <glandium> bjacob: so, equations should only be read by mathematicians, and people with disabilities will have to use a text reader that doesn't exist. great
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  832. # [17:44] <bjacob> glandium: no
  833. # [17:44] <glandium> bjacob: that's what you're saying in 1.2.3
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  835. # [17:45] <bjacob> glandium: no, i'm not saying that there
  836. # [17:45] <glandium> bjacob: you are
  837. # [17:45] <glandium> implicitely
  838. # [17:45] <bjacob> glandium: i'm saying that TeX is more friendly than MathML both to screen reading software, and to manual reading.
  839. # [17:46] <bjacob> glandium: i'm not saying that those should be the only way to read TeX equations in a web page. see below about MathJax and PDF.js showing that TeX can already be handled without specific browser support for the non-accessible use case
  840. # [17:46] <glandium> we should remove <ruby> support too, it's not friendly to manual reading
  841. # [17:47] <glandium> <table>s are borderline readable, too
  842. # [17:47] <bjacob> glandium: we do not support ruby in the way we support MathML
  843. # [17:47] <glandium> bjacob: true, we have an embarassing support for it, one more reason to kill it
  844. # [17:48] <bjacob> glandium: i think you're missing one specific point, see above ^ tex equations can be graphically rendered in current browsers without mathml anyway
  845. # [17:48] <glandium> in fact, markup is just not readable, we should switch to markdown
  846. # [17:48] <bjacob> glandium: not sure what you're saying about ruby; i've never heard about browser support for ruby.
  847. # [17:48] <glandium> bjacob: that's probably a mess for text readers
  848. # [17:49] <glandium> bjacob: <ruby> is supported by most browsers
  849. # [17:50] <glandium> but i'm just being sarcastic
  850. # [17:51] <bjacob> glandium: the question is whether a format is _more_ difficult for screen readers than it needs to be.
  851. # [17:51] <glandium> i'm not a huge fan of js magic transforming text
  852. # [17:51] <bjacob> glandium: then would you prefer proposal 3.2
  853. # [17:51] <glandium> bjacob: i'm just fine with mathml
  854. # [17:52] <bjacob> glandium: note, it's only incidental that js magic would be used. the more fundamental problem with mathjax or pdf.js is that it's a description of a graphical rendering (absolute positioned <div>'s) rather than the original math equation itself.
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  856. # [17:53] <glandium> bjacob: so what would you propose? <equation>\int_0^1 x^2 dx</equation> ?
  857. # [17:53] <glandium> and firefox does the magic?
  858. # [17:53] <bjacob> glandium: that would be basically proposal 3.2, yes.
  859. # [17:54] <glandium> it might as well be asciimathml, at least the code exists, and it's human readable
  860. # [17:54] <glandium> (more so)
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  862. # [17:56] <jwatt> glandium: thanks
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  864. # [17:57] <bjacob> glandium: asciimathml is mostly just TeX syntax for a lot of things, and not hugely better for other things; so i dont see the point of introducting that new syntax, where TeX is already so well established --- everyone in the scientific world uses TeX on a daily basis
  865. # [17:58] <bjacob> well, in _math_ sciences anyway i.e. including physics
  866. # [17:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/075119674e7b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865248 - Implement ChannelMergerNode; r=roc
  867. # [17:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6307d661d41 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865247 - Part 3: Add a ProduceAudioBlock overload to handle simultaneous processing of multiple input and output ports; r=roc
  868. # [17:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c619b0cb55f0 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865247 - Part 2: Tell MediaInputPorts about their input and output ports; r=roc
  869. # [17:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0630975bebd6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865247 - Part 1: Give MediaInputPort the notion of an input and output port number; r=roc
  870. # [17:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab91fc927a9f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865247 - Part 4: Implement ChannelSplitterNode; r=roc
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  884. # [18:21] <glandium> bjacob: the use of backslashes and braces is annoyingly unnecessary. Sure, it's necessary in TeX because it's how it works, but importing these implementation details is silly. People using TeX like to use their own macros, would you want to add support for that too, because that's what "everyone in the scientific world uses"?
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  886. # [18:23] <glandium> also, people writing TeX are usually not writing html anyways
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  889. # [18:24] <glandium> that is, the target population would likely be slimmer than that of mathml
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  898. # [18:32] <bjacob> if people think it's worth departing from tex to remove useless syntax cruft, that is negociable --- i dont care too much as long as automatic translation remains easy in both directions
  899. # [18:33] <bjacob> glandium: ^
  900. # [18:33] <Yoric> How did you guys end up talking TeX?
  901. # [18:33] <bjacob> Yoric: dev-platform thread on mathml
  902. # [18:33] <Yoric> ok
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  906. # [18:36] <Ms2ger> glandium, people write their websites in latex anyway ;)
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  908. # [18:36] <Yoric> My old website was written in LaTeX using a heavily-customized HeVeA + macros + scripting.
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  974. # [19:58] <NeilAway> evilpie, Ms2ger: from chrome, it's the window of the current tab
  975. # [19:58] <evilpie> so the same as window.contentWindow ?
  976. # [19:58] <NeilAway> evilpie, Ms2ger: before the tabbrowser existed, it was simply the window that the web page, or content, was loaded into
  977. # [19:58] <NeilAway> evilpie, Ms2ger: as opposed to, say, the sidebar
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  979. # [19:59] <Ms2ger> Mm
  980. # [19:59] <evilpie> can you explain that again? with simpler terms
  981. # [20:01] <NeilAway> evilpie: it's the same as getBrowser().contentWindow
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  983. # [20:01] <evilpie> okay
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  985. # [20:02] <evilpie> I am wondering how I could make this work with e10s
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  988. # [20:03] <evilpie> could we change GetContent so that it returns a JS::Value and just do return this.contentWindow?
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  992. # [20:04] <NeilAway> eww
  993. # [20:04] <NeilAway> which idiot doesn't know how a menulist works?
  994. # [20:04] <evilpie> I don't ;)
  995. # [20:05] <NeilAway> evilpie: what does getBrowser().contentWindow do in e10s?
  996. # [20:05] <evilpie> returns a CPOW for the content window in the child
  997. # [20:05] <evilpie> at least in my implementation right now
  998. # [20:05] <evilpie> zero review and stuff
  999. # [20:05] <filiptanu> a quick javascript question: is there any way I can dynamically add multi browser support if i want to add a linear gradient as the background? currently I'm doing: myObject.style.background = "-moz-linear-gradient(" + angle + "deg, rgba(255, 0, 0, .7), rgba(255, 255, 0, 0.7))", but that will only work for firefox... and there is no such thing as: myObject.style.webkitBackground etc.
  1000. # [20:06] <Ms2ger> bholley has touched .content recently, maybe you should poke him some time
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  1003. # [20:06] <Ms2ger> filiptanu, myObject.style.background = "linear-gradient(whatever the syntax is)"
  1004. # [20:07] <filiptanu> I've tried, doesn't seem to work
  1005. # [20:07] <mjrosenb> ugh. there are two ways for me to implement this, and neither one sounds pretty.
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  1010. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> filiptanu, wfm: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/2242
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  1012. # [20:14] <filiptanu> Ms2ger: I've tried that, works fine in firefox, doesn't seem to work in chrome
  1013. # [20:15] * Ms2ger looks in Chrome
  1014. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> Looks the same as in Fx
  1015. # [20:15] <Ms2ger> That's 28.0.1485.0
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  1017. # [20:18] <filiptanu> I guess the problem is with my browser :(
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  1019. # [20:18] <mjrosenb> hey, does anyone know how a Vector works?
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  1021. # [20:20] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, js::Vector?
  1022. # [20:21] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: uhh, the templated C++ class that we use internally.
  1023. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that's the one
  1024. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Try me :)
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  1026. # [20:21] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: this has to do with the question that I asked last night.
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  1028. # [20:22] <mjrosenb> well, earlier today
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  1030. # [20:23] <Jason_> anyone here?
  1031. # [20:23] <Ms2ger> Ah, the memcpy thing
  1032. # [20:23] <mjrosenb> anyhow, I have a decently complex datastructure, and the code that I want to write basically looks like:
  1033. # [20:23] <Ms2ger> Jason_, afraid not
  1034. # [20:23] <Jason_> haha
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  1037. # [20:24] <mjrosenb> modify_the_array_a_bunch(); if (really_rare_edge_case()) {restore_state(); do_something_different() }
  1038. # [20:24] <mjrosenb> yeah, my best idea is to use memcpy
  1039. # [20:25] <mjrosenb> or to somehow or other only emulate modifing everything, but I suspect that will be a bad time.
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  1042. # [20:26] <Ms2ger> Hmmm
  1043. # [20:26] <mjrosenb> the only vector operations I should perform are deletions from the beginning of one array, and appending to the end of a second array
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  1046. # [20:27] <mjrosenb> I actually suspect I don't care about un-doing the deletions.
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  1049. # [20:28] <mjrosenb> so this method seems error prone because I'm going to be fiddling with the internals of datastructures with pointers, and destructors with memcpy
  1050. # [20:29] <mjrosenb> and the other method seems error prone because I'll have two copies of a *whole* bunch of logic that will need to be kept in sync
  1051. # [20:30] <Ms2ger> I guess you could just count the number of appends and use shrinkBy(n)
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  1053. # [20:30] <NeilAway> eek, bugzilla fail :s
  1054. # [20:31] <evilpie> when I implement some interface with JS, is it normal that instanceof doesn't work?
  1055. # [20:31] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: the class I'm using for that isn't quite that clever, although I guess I can make a special instantiatoin?
  1056. # [20:33] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: what would go wrong if I just memcpy()'d over the vector with the old contents of it?
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  1058. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, if anything, luke could probably tell you... To me it just sounds scary :)
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  1060. # [20:34] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: yeah, I may be too used to thinking about a world with everything being immutable.
  1061. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, rust?
  1062. # [20:35] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: I' love to spend the next year re-writing the entirety of ion monkey in rust.
  1063. # [20:35] <Ms2ger> Heh
  1064. # [20:35] <mjrosenb> but this is not a practical solution.
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  1071. # [20:44] <evilpie> So I can't actually implement interfaces with JS that behave correctly with instanceof?
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  1073. # [20:44] <NeilAway> evilpie: instanceof from JS on a JS object just uses normal JS instanceof rules, only instanceof on an XPConnect wrapped object uses XPConnect rules
  1074. # [20:45] <NeilAway> evilpie: what do you want your JS object to be an instance of?
  1075. # [20:45] <evilpie> nsISSLStatusProvider
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  1077. # [20:46] <NeilAway> evilpie: ok, if your nsISSLStatusProvider gets double-wrapped by XPConnect (e.g. if it's a component) then it will instanceof appropriately, but any JS seeing the raw JS object won't be able to instanceof it
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  1079. # [20:47] <evilpie> how can i tell XPConnect to wrap it?
  1080. # [20:47] <NeilAway> evilpie: well, the quick-and-dirty way is to store it in an nsISupportsInterfacePointer
  1081. # [20:48] <NeilAway> evilpie: then when you query it back you'll get an nsISupports that will turn out to be instanceof nsISSLStatusProvider
  1082. # [20:48] * evilpie loves hacks
  1083. # [20:48] <NeilAway> assuming your QueryInterface is correct, of course
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  1085. # [20:50] <glosoli> "[21:48:49.860] The Web Console logging API (console.log, console.info, console.warn, console.error) has been disabled by a script on this page."
  1086. # [20:50] <glosoli> What is the reason of this ?
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  1088. # [20:50] <glosoli> Chrome and other browsers do just fine. Editing some Bar Chart which is written using Raphael JS
  1089. # [20:50] <glosoli> Also AgularJS is included in the html file
  1090. # [20:51] <evilpie> NeilAway: awesome, thanks!
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  1095. # [20:54] <glosoli> Aaah found out, friggin JetBrains
  1096. # [20:54] <glosoli> blocking it
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