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- # [00:31] <NeilAway> is dholbert our c++ warnings guru?
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- # [01:01] <NeilAway> huh, is Windows 7 stupid or something?
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- # [01:07] <philor> huh, is peterv breaking stuff?
- # [01:07] <WG9s> NeilAway: well my personal opinion is that Windows/XP was the only not-stupid version of Windows. However Windows 7 is the next less stupid version.
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- # [01:11] <NeilAway> WG9s: yeah, well it won't let me copy text from the console window when the app crashes :s
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- # [01:15] <WG9s> oh yes i hve had that.
- # [01:15] <WG9s> how stupid
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- # [01:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b63238518a3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 855971, bug 820846) because of browser-chrome test failures
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- # [01:53] <thomaslee> Man, are the trolls on the bug tracker always so vicious? haha
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- # [01:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc6ab8b33ec7 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868783 - Fix rooting hazards in nsXBLSerialize.cpp; r=till
- # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2869e8de267f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868782 - Fix rooting hazards in txMozillaXSLTProcessor.cpp; r=till
- # [01:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb15fa84d8d9 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868784 - Fix rooting hazards in nsCrypto.cpp; r=till
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- # [02:00] <till> ehsan: that's the last one for today, going to bed now
- # [02:00] <@ehsan> till: fair enough :)
- # [02:00] <@ehsan> till: thanks for the prompt reviews!
- # [02:01] <till> ehsan: keep 'em coming, though, I'll happily do more reviews tomorrow
- # [02:01] <till> ehsan: no problem at all, these are easy enough to review :)
- # [02:01] <@ehsan> :)
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- # [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e500bc167b4e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 868785 - Fix rooting hazards in TestStartupCache.cpp; r=till
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- # [03:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adaaf6641785 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 855971 - Switch HTMLDocument to WebIDL bindings. r=bz.
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- # [06:12] <philor> mmm, this could be bad - I cargo-culted a patch, but it looks like it might actually work and then I'll have to explain why
- # [06:15] <@bz_away> Blame it on the yankees?
- # [06:16] <philor> I do deserve the cargo
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- # [06:26] <philor> hmm, still no failures, and I would have expected some by now, how am I going to explain https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/f22907f883aa?
- # [06:28] <philor> "the gods want us to not kill WinXP slaves by running the webgl suite on them, but they don't know how unless we show them a field with a CC and two GCs in it"?
- # [06:28] <@bz_away> well, so
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- # [06:28] <@bz_away> I can perhaps understand why the CC is needed
- # [06:28] <@bz_away> Why two GCs are needed instead of one....
- # [06:28] * @bz_away has no idea
- # [06:29] <@bz_away> Also, usually it would be something like "for (i = 0; i < 3; ++i) { cc(); gc(); }"
- # [06:29] <@bz_away> or something
- # [06:29] <@bz_away> so you're getting off lightly
- # [06:30] <philor> I haven't actually tried just one GC yet, I was just blindly copying from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/tests/chrome/test_watchpoints.xul#57 and friends
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- # [06:30] <@bz_away> ok
- # [06:31] <@bz_away> well, the CC is needed because webgl stuff has cycles
- # [06:31] <@bz_away> so just a GC won't clean it up
- # [06:32] <philor> if I'm terse, and don't try to overexplain, I should be able to sell that :)
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- # [06:35] <@bz_away> heh
- # [06:35] <@bz_away> can't you land it with "rs=monkeys" or something? ;)
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- # [06:37] <philor> r=100greenrunsontry
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- # [08:18] <@roc> about to get on a flight
- # [08:19] <@roc> looks like a great time to land
- # [08:19] <@bz_sleep> you mean take off
- # [08:19] * @bz_sleep took a bit to parse what roc was saying... ;)
- # [08:19] <@roc> I land patches, plane takes off
- # [08:19] <@bz_sleep> right
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- # [08:20] <@bz_sleep> tree is green
- # [08:20] <@bz_sleep> you should be off the flight before Monday morning, I hope
- # [08:20] <@bz_sleep> Go for it. ;)
- # [08:22] <firebot> Check-in:
- # [08:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f309dacf4010 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 863224. DOMMediaStream should release its internal MediaStream and listener during Unlink to ensure that events running between Unlink and the destruction of the
- # [08:22] <firebot> DOMMediaStream don't see the dying object. r=jesup
- # [08:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be3cef4b69e3 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 868406. Shut down MediaStreamGraph's thread. r=jesup
- # [08:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4609a4efeb39 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 866514. Part 1: Add DOMMediaStream::OnTracksAvailableCallback. r=jesup
- # [08:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f110d0270f8e - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 866514. Part 2: Delay delivering getUserMedia stream result until the DOM object has asynchronously acquired the desired tracks. r=jesup
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- # [08:42] <philor> great, I do need the double-GC
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- # [08:57] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
- # [08:58] <Ms2ger> philor, you star my try pushes now? :)
- # [08:58] <philor> Ms2ger: now and then
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- # [09:00] <philor> still chasing back the tiresome regression where we load a log instead of a summary
- # [09:01] <philor> which calls for clicking on hundreds of failed test jobs in build after build of Firefox, which calls for more failure than we can usually muster on a weekend
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- # [09:03] <Ms2ger> :/
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- # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f5c2a02512d0 - Ms2ger - Bug 866600 - Avoid using nsIDOMDocument::GetHidden; r=mounir
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- # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/581b86706691 - Ms2ger - Bug 866436 - Cleanup the implementation of UIEvent.which; r=smaug
- # [09:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1734d1a36463 - Ms2ger - Bug 868411 - Handlify js::GetObjectProto; r=bz
- # [09:07] <philor> for extra annoyance, I think I'm back to the same inbound merge that I bisected on inbound and found that every cset in it was good
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- # [09:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87ee7b242241 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865248 - Implement ChannelMergerNode; r=roc
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- # [09:10] <philor> oh, no I'm not!
- # [09:10] <philor> I'm up to... Ms2ger did it!
- # [09:10] <Ms2ger> Uh-oh
- # [09:10] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a6104e0e5a2c
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- # [09:10] <philor> (the push, not the cset)
- # [09:10] <Ms2ger> Ah
- # [09:11] <Ms2ger> The changeset thoroughly surprised me :)
- # [09:11] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=a6104e0e5a2c
- # [09:12] <philor> which one is the "sometime load the href on a link, even when it has an onclick that returns false"?
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- # [09:12] <Ms2ger> Should be none of them :/
- # [09:13] <philor> or whatever it is that tbpl actually does
- # [09:13] <KWierso|Home> I blame 852135 because it mentions "attributes" :)
- # [09:14] <Ms2ger> It's also the only one that should have any web-visible effect, so I'm looking the same way
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- # [09:15] <Ms2ger> philor, hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/ is still the right place to go looking?
- # [09:15] <philor> yep
- # [09:15] <Ms2ger> Gah, jQuery
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- # [09:20] <philor> but, yeah, jQuery, https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/file/9af3474be6d7/js/UserInterface.js#l109
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- # [13:15] <mjrosenb> in C++, does anyone think it would be error-prone to memcpy a bunch of objects (Vectors, among other things) into a temp buffer, then later memcpy'ing it back to undo the changes?
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- # [13:36] <Ms2ger> "in C++, does anyone think it would be error-prone"
- # [13:36] <Ms2ger> Yes.
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- # [13:56] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: well, more error prone than usual.
- # [13:57] <mjrosenb> since I suspect I'm not going to get out of writing C++
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- # [13:58] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, I dunno, maybe rust? :)
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- # [14:01] <jwatt> Ms2ger: what a helpful bug coment you just made :)
- # [14:01] <jwatt> Ms2ger: r+'ed by Waldo fwiw
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- # [14:02] <Ms2ger> jwatt, well, clearly your bug shows it *is* fishy ;)
- # [14:02] <jwatt> not really
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- # [14:03] <jwatt> returning a std::string is a perfectly normal thing to do
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- # [16:02] <evilpie> what the heck is window.content ?
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- # [16:04] <Ms2ger> It gets some window
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- # [16:04] <Ms2ger> It's a Geckoism
- # [16:05] <Ms2ger> I think it's window.top for content and something else for chrome
- # [16:06] <evilpie> a "Primary Content Shell"
- # [16:06] <evilpie> these words mean nothing to me
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- # [16:43] <philor> hmm, when did layout get so good about not failing tests?
- # [16:43] <philor> I'm filing a reftest failure, and I can barely remember how
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- # [17:05] <philor> bjacob: I think I'll just land https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/ebf54de367a7 without review, since if I make you review it you'll have to insist that I explain in the comment why we have to GC twice, and my only explanation is "I copy-pasted it from elsewhere, and it works"
- # [17:11] <bjacob> philor: i think that that would be a worthwhile conversation to have, with someone who, contrary to me, is educated enough in GC matters to judge whether it makes sense to call garbageCollect() twice
- # [17:11] <bjacob> philor: i have definitely heard "running gc multiple times does make a difference" though, so i could easily be convinced
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- # [17:13] <bjacob> philor: in any case, i believe that at least writing a comment making it clear that the 2nd garbagecollect is not a typo, will help ensure that it doesn't get removed by someone else
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- # [17:14] <philor> bjacob: well, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=7279f6df5bba says it makes sense
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- # [17:15] <philor> it's around 10%, I've never gotten fewer than 8 in 100, no matter how many tests I skipped
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- # [17:19] <bjacob> philor: ok, you can land with r=bjacob
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- # [17:20] <philor> thx
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- # [17:24] * bjacob is writing an email to dev-platform to kill MathML
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- # [17:25] <philor> an entire class of decisions that I'm glad are well above my pay-grade
- # [17:26] <glandium> bjacob: why?
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- # [17:29] <bjacob> glandium: primarily because _if_ we do want a math-specific web standard, something based on a subset of TeX would be better in all respects. That is however a big if.
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- # [17:31] <glandium> bjacob: what is so bad about mathml? that it's xml?
- # [17:32] <glandium> and how would something based on a subset of TeX fit on the web? by making it a markup?
- # [17:32] <bjacob> glandium: that too. see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML#Example_and_comparison_to_other_formats . Where TeX is close to intuitive notation, MathML is near impossible to handwrite
- # [17:33] <glandium> bjacob: the point is that there are editors ; we don't throw away html because markdown is simpler to write
- # [17:34] <bjacob> glandium: i don't know that the web wants any math-specific thing. but if it does, TeX is a better choice because contrary to MathML (no significant traction outside of mozilla in 14 years) , TeX is the de-facto standard for math writing. Furthermore, as i explain in that email i'll send very soon, TeX gives better accessibility.
- # [17:34] <Ms2ger> Oh?
- # [17:35] <Ms2ger> I'll be interested to read it, then :)
- # [17:36] <Ms2ger> (Also what the DOM would look like)
- # [17:36] <glandium> and, there is http://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/mathml/asciimath.html
- # [17:37] <Ms2ger> And how you'd deal with the fact that TeX is a programming language, not a markup language
- # [17:37] <VirajSinha> felipe: hey
- # [17:37] <glandium> Ms2ger: that too
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- # [17:40] <bjacob> Ms2ger: glandium: philor: mail sent
- # [17:40] <bjacob> glandium: that asciimath syntax is pretty much TeX i.e. what i'm proposing
- # [17:40] <bjacob> glandium: at least the first few examples
- # [17:41] <bjacob> up to and including the integral
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- # [17:43] <glandium> bjacob: so, equations should only be read by mathematicians, and people with disabilities will have to use a text reader that doesn't exist. great
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- # [17:44] <bjacob> glandium: no
- # [17:44] <glandium> bjacob: that's what you're saying in 1.2.3
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- # [17:45] <bjacob> glandium: no, i'm not saying that there
- # [17:45] <glandium> bjacob: you are
- # [17:45] <glandium> implicitely
- # [17:45] <bjacob> glandium: i'm saying that TeX is more friendly than MathML both to screen reading software, and to manual reading.
- # [17:46] <bjacob> glandium: i'm not saying that those should be the only way to read TeX equations in a web page. see below about MathJax and PDF.js showing that TeX can already be handled without specific browser support for the non-accessible use case
- # [17:46] <glandium> we should remove <ruby> support too, it's not friendly to manual reading
- # [17:47] <glandium> <table>s are borderline readable, too
- # [17:47] <bjacob> glandium: we do not support ruby in the way we support MathML
- # [17:47] <glandium> bjacob: true, we have an embarassing support for it, one more reason to kill it
- # [17:48] <bjacob> glandium: i think you're missing one specific point, see above ^ tex equations can be graphically rendered in current browsers without mathml anyway
- # [17:48] <glandium> in fact, markup is just not readable, we should switch to markdown
- # [17:48] <bjacob> glandium: not sure what you're saying about ruby; i've never heard about browser support for ruby.
- # [17:48] <glandium> bjacob: that's probably a mess for text readers
- # [17:49] <glandium> bjacob: <ruby> is supported by most browsers
- # [17:50] <glandium> but i'm just being sarcastic
- # [17:51] <bjacob> glandium: the question is whether a format is _more_ difficult for screen readers than it needs to be.
- # [17:51] <glandium> i'm not a huge fan of js magic transforming text
- # [17:51] <bjacob> glandium: then would you prefer proposal 3.2
- # [17:51] <glandium> bjacob: i'm just fine with mathml
- # [17:52] <bjacob> glandium: note, it's only incidental that js magic would be used. the more fundamental problem with mathjax or pdf.js is that it's a description of a graphical rendering (absolute positioned <div>'s) rather than the original math equation itself.
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- # [17:53] <glandium> bjacob: so what would you propose? <equation>\int_0^1 x^2 dx</equation> ?
- # [17:53] <glandium> and firefox does the magic?
- # [17:53] <bjacob> glandium: that would be basically proposal 3.2, yes.
- # [17:54] <glandium> it might as well be asciimathml, at least the code exists, and it's human readable
- # [17:54] <glandium> (more so)
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- # [17:56] <jwatt> glandium: thanks
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- # [17:57] <bjacob> glandium: asciimathml is mostly just TeX syntax for a lot of things, and not hugely better for other things; so i dont see the point of introducting that new syntax, where TeX is already so well established --- everyone in the scientific world uses TeX on a daily basis
- # [17:58] <bjacob> well, in _math_ sciences anyway i.e. including physics
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- # [18:21] <glandium> bjacob: the use of backslashes and braces is annoyingly unnecessary. Sure, it's necessary in TeX because it's how it works, but importing these implementation details is silly. People using TeX like to use their own macros, would you want to add support for that too, because that's what "everyone in the scientific world uses"?
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- # [18:23] <glandium> also, people writing TeX are usually not writing html anyways
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- # [18:24] <glandium> that is, the target population would likely be slimmer than that of mathml
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- # [18:32] <bjacob> if people think it's worth departing from tex to remove useless syntax cruft, that is negociable --- i dont care too much as long as automatic translation remains easy in both directions
- # [18:33] <bjacob> glandium: ^
- # [18:33] <Yoric> How did you guys end up talking TeX?
- # [18:33] <bjacob> Yoric: dev-platform thread on mathml
- # [18:33] <Yoric> ok
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- # [18:36] <Ms2ger> glandium, people write their websites in latex anyway ;)
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- # [18:36] <Yoric> My old website was written in LaTeX using a heavily-customized HeVeA + macros + scripting.
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- # [18:40] <baku> patch for 845125 (Fix improper use of CheckedInt) breaks my build. Any idea if there is a workaround, or someone is working on it?
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- # [19:58] <NeilAway> evilpie, Ms2ger: from chrome, it's the window of the current tab
- # [19:58] <evilpie> so the same as window.contentWindow ?
- # [19:58] <NeilAway> evilpie, Ms2ger: before the tabbrowser existed, it was simply the window that the web page, or content, was loaded into
- # [19:58] <NeilAway> evilpie, Ms2ger: as opposed to, say, the sidebar
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- # [19:59] <Ms2ger> Mm
- # [19:59] <evilpie> can you explain that again? with simpler terms
- # [20:01] <NeilAway> evilpie: it's the same as getBrowser().contentWindow
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- # [20:01] <evilpie> okay
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- # [20:02] <evilpie> I am wondering how I could make this work with e10s
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- # [20:03] <evilpie> could we change GetContent so that it returns a JS::Value and just do return this.contentWindow?
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- # [20:04] <NeilAway> eww
- # [20:04] <NeilAway> which idiot doesn't know how a menulist works?
- # [20:04] <evilpie> I don't ;)
- # [20:05] <NeilAway> evilpie: what does getBrowser().contentWindow do in e10s?
- # [20:05] <evilpie> returns a CPOW for the content window in the child
- # [20:05] <evilpie> at least in my implementation right now
- # [20:05] <evilpie> zero review and stuff
- # [20:05] <filiptanu> a quick javascript question: is there any way I can dynamically add multi browser support if i want to add a linear gradient as the background? currently I'm doing: myObject.style.background = "-moz-linear-gradient(" + angle + "deg, rgba(255, 0, 0, .7), rgba(255, 255, 0, 0.7))", but that will only work for firefox... and there is no such thing as: myObject.style.webkitBackground etc.
- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> bholley has touched .content recently, maybe you should poke him some time
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- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> filiptanu, myObject.style.background = "linear-gradient(whatever the syntax is)"
- # [20:07] <filiptanu> I've tried, doesn't seem to work
- # [20:07] <mjrosenb> ugh. there are two ways for me to implement this, and neither one sounds pretty.
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- # [20:12] <Ms2ger> filiptanu, wfm: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/2242
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- # [20:14] <filiptanu> Ms2ger: I've tried that, works fine in firefox, doesn't seem to work in chrome
- # [20:15] * Ms2ger looks in Chrome
- # [20:15] <Ms2ger> Looks the same as in Fx
- # [20:15] <Ms2ger> That's 28.0.1485.0
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- # [20:18] <filiptanu> I guess the problem is with my browser :(
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- # [20:18] <mjrosenb> hey, does anyone know how a Vector works?
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- # [20:20] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, js::Vector?
- # [20:21] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: uhh, the templated C++ class that we use internally.
- # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that's the one
- # [20:21] <Ms2ger> Try me :)
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- # [20:21] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: this has to do with the question that I asked last night.
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- # [20:22] <mjrosenb> well, earlier today
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- # [20:23] <Jason_> anyone here?
- # [20:23] <Ms2ger> Ah, the memcpy thing
- # [20:23] <mjrosenb> anyhow, I have a decently complex datastructure, and the code that I want to write basically looks like:
- # [20:23] <Ms2ger> Jason_, afraid not
- # [20:23] <Jason_> haha
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- # [20:24] <mjrosenb> modify_the_array_a_bunch(); if (really_rare_edge_case()) {restore_state(); do_something_different() }
- # [20:24] <mjrosenb> yeah, my best idea is to use memcpy
- # [20:25] <mjrosenb> or to somehow or other only emulate modifing everything, but I suspect that will be a bad time.
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- # [20:26] <Ms2ger> Hmmm
- # [20:26] <mjrosenb> the only vector operations I should perform are deletions from the beginning of one array, and appending to the end of a second array
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- # [20:27] <mjrosenb> I actually suspect I don't care about un-doing the deletions.
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- # [20:28] <mjrosenb> so this method seems error prone because I'm going to be fiddling with the internals of datastructures with pointers, and destructors with memcpy
- # [20:29] <mjrosenb> and the other method seems error prone because I'll have two copies of a *whole* bunch of logic that will need to be kept in sync
- # [20:30] <Ms2ger> I guess you could just count the number of appends and use shrinkBy(n)
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- # [20:30] <NeilAway> eek, bugzilla fail :s
- # [20:31] <evilpie> when I implement some interface with JS, is it normal that instanceof doesn't work?
- # [20:31] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: the class I'm using for that isn't quite that clever, although I guess I can make a special instantiatoin?
- # [20:33] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: what would go wrong if I just memcpy()'d over the vector with the old contents of it?
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- # [20:33] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, if anything, luke could probably tell you... To me it just sounds scary :)
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- # [20:34] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: yeah, I may be too used to thinking about a world with everything being immutable.
- # [20:34] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, rust?
- # [20:35] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: I' love to spend the next year re-writing the entirety of ion monkey in rust.
- # [20:35] <Ms2ger> Heh
- # [20:35] <mjrosenb> but this is not a practical solution.
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- # [20:44] <evilpie> So I can't actually implement interfaces with JS that behave correctly with instanceof?
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- # [20:44] <NeilAway> evilpie: instanceof from JS on a JS object just uses normal JS instanceof rules, only instanceof on an XPConnect wrapped object uses XPConnect rules
- # [20:45] <NeilAway> evilpie: what do you want your JS object to be an instance of?
- # [20:45] <evilpie> nsISSLStatusProvider
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- # [20:46] <NeilAway> evilpie: ok, if your nsISSLStatusProvider gets double-wrapped by XPConnect (e.g. if it's a component) then it will instanceof appropriately, but any JS seeing the raw JS object won't be able to instanceof it
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- # [20:47] <evilpie> how can i tell XPConnect to wrap it?
- # [20:47] <NeilAway> evilpie: well, the quick-and-dirty way is to store it in an nsISupportsInterfacePointer
- # [20:48] <NeilAway> evilpie: then when you query it back you'll get an nsISupports that will turn out to be instanceof nsISSLStatusProvider
- # [20:48] * evilpie loves hacks
- # [20:48] <NeilAway> assuming your QueryInterface is correct, of course
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- # [20:50] <glosoli> "[21:48:49.860] The Web Console logging API (console.log, console.info, console.warn, console.error) has been disabled by a script on this page."
- # [20:50] <glosoli> What is the reason of this ?
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- # [20:50] <glosoli> Chrome and other browsers do just fine. Editing some Bar Chart which is written using Raphael JS
- # [20:50] <glosoli> Also AgularJS is included in the html file
- # [20:51] <evilpie> NeilAway: awesome, thanks!
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- # [20:54] <glosoli> Aaah found out, friggin JetBrains
- # [20:54] <glosoli> blocking it
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- # [21:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae636904cf3d - Gabriele Svelto - Bug 793735 - Make StartupTimeline use TimeStamp instead of PRTime and adjust nsAppStartup to cope with it, r=nfroyd
- # [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a609b0f445f8 - Gabriele Svelto - Bug 793735 - Make XRE_StartupTimelineRecord() generate TimeStamps and modify its callers to use the appropriate timers, r=nfroyd
- # [21:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dab96a956516 - Gabriele Svelto - Bug 793735 - Add functionality to create TimeStamp instances representing the process creation time, r=nfroyd
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