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# [00:21] <KWierso|Home> philor: out of curiosity, what's going on with those bc oranges?
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# [00:21] <philor> KWierso|Home: I blame RyanVM, err, I mean, Birch
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# [00:23] <philor> KWierso|Home: but beyond that, I guess some sort of a build race, since it seems to be consistent for a broken build
# [00:23] <tbsaunde> dholbert: Waldo is anyone else seeing warnings comeing from casting.h?
# [00:23] <dholbert> tbsaunde, casting.h doesn't sound familiar to me
# [00:23] <Waldo> tbsaunde: what warnings, exactly?
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# [00:24] <Waldo> dholbert: new header, only about a week old, only used in <input type=range> parsing at the moment
# [00:24] <tbsaunde> Waldo: wtype-limits, let me pastebin
# [00:24] <Waldo> also in TestCasting.cpp, I guess
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# [00:25] <dholbert> tbsaunde, ah - ./mach warnings-list does give me a few instances of that
# [00:25] <dholbert> tbsaunde, for Casting.h, yeah
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# [00:25] <tbsaunde> Waldo: http://paste.debian.net/2545/
# [00:25] <mwu> jesup: not sure I understand your comment about refactoring
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# [00:26] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I think the test on line 52 should be > not >= haven't looked at line 80 yet
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# [00:26] <jesup> mwu: as in a followup to remove the B2G-specific #if from code we get from upstream, or at least genericize it for pushing upstream and controling via a config/gyp-files
# [00:27] <mwu> ah ok
# [00:27] <jesup> The less patches (especially outside the make/gyp-system) we have against upstream, the easier it is on me ;-)
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# [00:27] <mwu> that code actually already had a B2G specific #if - it just didn't apply them consistently
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# [00:28] <jesup> Not to say we *can't* land something like that. ANd yes, there are some others; I'd like to pull those into the same ballpark - and it still may have an #ifdef FFOS or somesuch, but controlled via the gypfiles that make all the webrtc code
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# [00:29] <mwu> ok thanks
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# [00:29] <Waldo> tbsaunde: ah, yes, looks like slightly more care in that bit should get rid of the issue
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# [00:31] <tbsaunde> Waldo: want me to write a patch or are you?
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# [00:31] <Waldo> tbsaunde: I will, my mind's still fresh in that code
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# [00:32] <tbsaunde> Waldo: cool
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# [00:43] <@ehsan> roc: ping
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# [00:48] <Waldo> tbsaunde: is that OS X clang, or which? I can't get the error with clang new-to-within-a-few-months, although I think the warning looks valid
# [00:48] <dholbert> Waldo, I got a warning w/ GCC 4.8, too
# [00:48] <dholbert> Waldo, similar to tbsaunde's
# [00:49] <Waldo> dholbert: hmm, I wasn't with 4.8 locally, odd
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# [00:49] <dholbert> Waldo, I didn't actually see it fly by in compile-spew; I was just checking ./mach warnings-list
# [00:49] <dholbert> Waldo, so I might be wrong
# [00:50] <tbsaunde> Waldo: mingw gcc 4.7
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# [00:50] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I can try stock 4.7 too if you like
# [00:50] <Waldo> tbsaunde: eh, I can probably figure this out without it
# [00:50] <dholbert> Waldo, [actually yeah, looks like I was using 4.7 on that machine, too; sorry]
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# [00:52] <Waldo> ah, there we go! got the warnings now
# [00:52] <dholbert> woot
# [00:52] <NeilAway> dholbert: you know all about compiler warnings right?
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# [00:54] <dholbert> NeilAway, I wouldn't say "all"; what's your question?
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# [00:57] <NeilAway> if I have a line uint32_t foo = bar.ToInteger(rv); if (foo >= MIN && foo <= MAX) baz(foo);
# [00:57] <NeilAway> dholbert: but MIN happens to be 0, so gcc warns that the comparison is always true
# [00:57] <NeilAway> dholbert: what would you suggest?
# [00:57] <dholbert> NeilAway, we have at least one warning like that, yeah
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# [00:58] <dholbert> NeilAway, is MIN static const uint32_t or something?
# [00:59] <NeilAway> dholbert: well, it's actually from idl, so it's enum { MIN = 0U, MAX = 10U } or something
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# [00:59] <dholbert> ah, gotcha
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# [00:59] <dholbert> NeilAway, you could drop the comparison to MIN and add a MOZ_STATIC_ASSERT that MIN == 0
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# [01:00] <dholbert> with a comment next to the static assert saying something like "if MIN is greater than 0, we need to check that foo is greater than it. However, it's currently 0, so we don't bother (to avoid triggering compile warnings for an always-true comparison)"
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# [01:01] <dholbert> NeilAway, so then if MIN ever changes to be nonzero, we'll notice and we'll know to update the comparison there
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# [01:05] <NeilAway> dholbert: ok, so I sneakily forgot to mention that someone submitted a patch where they changed foo to be int32_t
# [01:05] <NeilAway> eek, bugzilla ise
# [01:06] <NeilAway> dholbert: and I was surprised that it didn't result in a signed/unsigned comparison warning
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# [01:10] <dholbert> NeilAway, must be because the compiler is optimizing away the type of MIN
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# [01:10] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: I think that would produce a wconversion when assigning to foo too but we don't build with -WConversion for some reason
# [01:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffa5c9610cba - Luke Wagner - Bug 868658 - OdinMonkey: also require explicit coercion of function-pointer calls (r=sstangl)
# [01:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/983dd922cef2 - Luke Wagner - Bug 868684 - OdinMonkey: sequential compilation allocates LIR in the tempLifoAlloc (r=sstangl)
# [01:10] <dholbert> tbsaunde, I believe he's talking about comparisons, not conversions
# [01:11] <dholbert> (wconversion in GCC is off by default (even with -Wall) because it's too false-positive-ish)
# [01:12] <tbsaunde> dholbert: sure, I was just talking about other warnings that might result from that change
# [01:12] <dholbert> tbsaunde, gotcha
# [01:13] <mbrubeck> oh, it's a new test
# [01:13] <NeilAway> dholbert/tbsaunde: what's the flag for warning for unsigned compare to zero?
# [01:13] <tbsaunde> dholbert: what makes it more false positive than sign comparison warnings? I'd expected they'd be pretty similar
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# [01:14] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: -WType-limits
# [01:14] <dholbert> NeilAway, see first question at http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/NewWconversion#Frequently_Asked_Questions
# [01:14] <mbrubeck> meh, I'll just file it
# [01:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0b7c3e3b622 - Shane Caraveo - bug 824164 change position of chat overflow button, r=markh
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# [01:23] <NeilAway> dholbert: hmm, confusing
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# [01:25] <NeilAway> dholbert: so, enums are their own type, which happen to behave like #defines in that they will get silently promoted to unsigned in a way static const int won't
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# [01:26] <dholbert> s/promoted to unsigned/promoted to numeric literal/, is what I was suspecting (and that can happen to static const int, too)
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# [01:26] <dholbert> NeilAway, I don't really know though, I'm just guessing
# [01:26] <NeilAway> dholbert: i.e. if you have #define foo 2 enum { bar = 3 }; static const int baz = 4; then you can compare foo and bar to either signed or unsigned without warning, but you can only compare baz to signed
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# [01:27] <NeilAway> dholbert: no, if I have a static const int, I get a warning if I try to compare it to unsigned
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# [01:27] <NeilAway> dholbert: even if the value is representable
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# [01:28] <dholbert> NeilAway, ok. (I've seen a Wtype-limits warning for a "static const uint32_t minVal = 0;" somewhere, but that's unrelated to what you're seeing)
# [01:28] <dholbert> NeilAway, so I think compilers don't guarantee that enums will be either signed or unsigned, under the hood
# [01:28] <@roc> ehsan: pong
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# [01:28] <dholbert> so when you compare them, they're probably just promoted to whatever you compare it to
# [01:29] <dholbert> NeilAway, enum {bar =3 } and enum {bar = 3u} are equivalent; neither one guarantees that the enum will be signed or unsigned
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# [01:29] <dholbert> it'll be whatever the compiler uses for enums under the hood
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# [01:31] <seth> in C++11 there are nicer enums where you can specify the type. <misses C++11>
# [01:31] <@ehsan> roc: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869224
# [01:31] <seth> mbrubeck: ping
# [01:31] <@ehsan> seth: MOZ_ENUM_CLASS
# [01:31] <@ehsan> and MOZ_TYPED_ENUM
# [01:31] <seth> ehsan: heh, we have MOZ_ versions of everything, huh? =)
# [01:31] <mbrubeck> seth: pong!
# [01:31] <@ehsan> seth: until we can beat our compilers into submission, yes!
# [01:32] <seth> mbrubeck: so, regarding bug 859377 (ClippedImage regressions): i believe i've figured this thing out
# [01:32] <seth> mbrubeck: i expect to push in a patch today
# [01:32] <mbrubeck> yeah, I saw your comments. sounds nice
# [01:32] <seth> mbrubeck: let me know if anything other than SVG opacity still isn't fixed
# [01:32] <seth> mbrubeck: the reason i bring up SVG opacity is because there seems to be a weird tradeoff
# [01:33] <mbrubeck> congrats on the successful regression hunting!
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# [01:33] <seth> mbrubeck: tsvgr gets better by _1000_ without Bas' patch that I mentioned in the bug, but tsvgr_opacity is worse by 200
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# [01:33] <mbrubeck> seth: The SVG Opacity test seems like a weird micro-benchmark anyway... I wouldn't want us to over-fit to that one very bizarre test case.
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# [01:34] <seth> mbrubeck: hehe thanks. but yeah, that's why i wanted to bring it up. i think right now there's a little bit of indecision about whether to make that change, given the tradeoff
# [01:34] <Bas> mbrubeck: Well, the odd part is those -shouldn't- be affected. And last I checked they measured timer resolution more than anything else!
# [01:34] <Bas> So why my patch would affect them at all is a -complete- mystery to me.
# [01:34] <seth> yeah, exactly! ClippedImage is only called for the browser chrome when i run tsvgr_opacity locally
# [01:34] <seth> that's what's so freakin' bizarre
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# [01:35] <mbrubeck> Bas: They've always been weirdly multimodal, so there seems to be some sensitivity in the tests... maybe some timing change elsewhere causes a change in whether something else (gc, i/o...) happens before/during/after the test
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# [01:36] <seth> mbrubeck: i'm probably going to call it fixed if the only remaining regression is tsvgr_opacity, unless you disagree
# [01:37] <seth> especially given that we actually improve elsewhere
# [01:37] <mbrubeck> seth: sounds good to me... I mean, I'm not the one to make that sort of call, it'd be whoever cares about that specific benchmark (if such a person exists)
# [01:37] <mbrubeck> Check out the very non-random "noise" in http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[225,94,12]]&sel=none&displayrange=365&datatype=running
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# [01:43] <Waldo> tbsaunde: filed bug 869238, CC'd you on it after the fact
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# [01:49] <taras> is http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html correct
# [01:49] <taras> do we no longer run on pre-sse2 systems?
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# [01:53] <@gavin> taras: we seem to try to support them. e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858022
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# [01:53] <@gavin> but on the other hand someone updated that page for a reason
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# [01:53] <@gavin> I see an inconclusive dev.platform thread about it 2 years ago
# [01:53] <jlebar|dinner> I need someone from the sg to mark an existing bug as ss, right?
# [01:53] <@ehsan> taras: we do support pre-sse2 machines
# [01:53] <@gavin> (followup to another one from 4 years ago)
# [01:53] <jlebar|dinner> Anyone around?
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# [01:54] <@gavin> jlebar|dinner: hi
# [01:54] <@ehsan> jlebar|dinner: I can help
# [01:54] <jlebar|dinner> Got it; thanks.
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# [01:59] <@ehsan> taras: no. it says "recommended" not "required"
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# [02:37] <tbsaunde> dholbert: if you're ever running out of gcc warnings to fix for linux building for windows with mingw gives you plenty more ;)
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# [02:46] <@roc> ehsan: I'm confused
# [02:46] <@ehsan> why?
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# [02:47] <@roc> so the nonzero audio is at the beginning?
# [02:48] <@ehsan> yes
# [02:48] <@ehsan> before the first event
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# [02:48] <@ehsan> (where the defaultValue kicks in)
# [02:48] <@roc> I don't understand thy the conversion of currentTime to ticks in Start() ends up with a different value to the conversion of currentTime to ticks in SetValueAtTime
# [02:49] <@ehsan> roc: well, we use different conversions :)
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# [02:50] <@ehsan> roc: this is how we convert the start/stop params: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/AudioNodeStream.cpp#53
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# [02:51] <@ehsan> roc: this is what we use for AudioParam events: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webaudio/WebAudioUtils.cpp#19
# [02:51] <@ehsan> to be honest I don't exactly understand why they need to be different :/
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# [02:54] <@roc> neither do I
# [02:54] <@ehsan> roc: do you think the former conversion is correct?
# [02:54] <@roc> SetStreamTimeParameterImpl looks better to me
# [02:54] <@ehsan> if yes, I can just try to use it for AudioParams
# [02:54] <@roc> it's certainly more understandable!
# [02:54] <@ehsan> and see what happens
# [02:54] <@ehsan> hehe, that's true
# [02:55] <@roc> I fear that once you fix this, we'll have audio at the end of the interval, but we'll see
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# [02:55] <@roc> (we should still fix this no matter what)
# [02:55] <@ehsan> roc: why would we have that problem?
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# [02:56] <@ehsan> we use SetStreamTimeParameterImpl to set both start and end
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# [02:57] <mjrosenb> is there some way of partially specializing a template for all integral types?
# [02:57] <@roc> because AudioBufferSourceNode::Start()'s time will be delayed to the current time when the message is eventually processed
# [02:57] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: you have to do that one by one
# [02:58] <@roc> while the AudioParam value changes will not be delayed at all
# [02:58] <@ehsan> roc: they will be since they are also processed on the MSG thread
# [02:59] <@roc> I'd like to believe you but I can't
# [02:59] <@ehsan> why?
# [02:59] <@ehsan> let me show you some code!
# [02:59] <@ehsan> roc: see GainNide for example: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webaudio/GainNode.cpp?force=1#51
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# [03:00] <@ehsan> I think if all modifications happen on the main thread before hitting the event loop, then all messages will be processed in one go
# [03:00] <mjrosenb> ehsan: thanks.
# [03:00] <mjrosenb> next question, coming at this from the opposite direction
# [03:01] <mjrosenb> if I have specialized a template for Foo, and I instantiate it with Bar |class Bar : public Foo {...}|, will I get the specialized version, or the generic version?
# [03:01] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: you'll get the generic version
# [03:02] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: dynamic polymorphism doesn't happen at compile time ;)
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# [03:02] <@roc> oh, tpaint is Twinopen
# [03:02] <@ehsan> roc: I guess there's little point in arguing about this before I try this :)
# [03:02] <@roc> oops
# [03:02] <tbsaunde> ehsan: couldn't you do something like template <typename T, bool isInegral=mozilla::IsIntegral<t>::value> struct bar {}; and then specialize that?
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# [03:03] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: that should work, I think...
# [03:03] <tbsaunde> specializing on the bool being true or false of course
# [03:03] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: ^
# [03:03] <@ted> billm: ping
# [03:04] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: so I'd have the generic version include a default value for the second parameter, then specialize on true?
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# [03:05] <mjrosenb> now I need to go look up how to do template specialization!
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# [03:06] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: sounds right
# [03:06] <tbsaunde> mjrosenb: mfbt/ and dom/bindings/ have plenty of examples :)
# [03:06] <@ehsan> mjrosenb: it's easy: template <class T> class Foo<T, true> { ... }
# [03:07] <RyanVM> cpearce: ping
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# [03:18] <vlad> avih: haven't had a chance to look at the patch yet, sorry!
# [03:18] <jlebar|dinner> bsmith: "School children traditionally have been on the reading end of math typesetting because they get punished for writing in their math books."
# [03:18] <jlebar|dinner> That is awesome.
# [03:18] <avih> vlad: no worries. take your time. take years :p
# [03:19] <avih> (i mean it ;) )
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# [03:23] <vlad> avih: I don't want to take years!
# [03:23] <vlad> avih: I want the problem to get fixed :D
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# [03:25] <avih> vlad: i know, same here, and omtc would be perfect for it when we present off main thread. the take your time was wrt the quality of the patch ;)
# [03:27] <@roc> I know, we can have an XML vocabulary for DNA, and when the browser loads a DNA resource it can synthesize the organism for you
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# [03:28] <@roc> do we have a helper nsRunnable subclass that releases an object on the main thread?
# [03:28] <@roc> I swear I've written this before
# [03:29] <bsmith> roc: NS_ProxyRelease or similar?
# [03:29] <@ted> billm: did you actually prove my patch made windows debug tests faster?
# [03:29] <@roc> mmm
# [03:29] <@roc> maybe
# [03:29] <@roc> actually I just realized I don't need it
# [03:29] <@ted> billm: i am still flabbergasted by that
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# [03:31] <billm> ted: yes. I started with a rev where builds were slow and put your change on top and it went fast.
# [03:32] <billm> ted: although I guess I should re-test the one that's supposed to be slow to make sure it wasn't some releng change.
# [03:32] <@ted> crazy
# [03:32] <billm> ted: I don't know what we could do now. it would be nice to understand it, I guess.
# [03:33] <@ted> yeah, it boggles my mind
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# [03:33] <@ted> but i don't know that i want to spend a lot of time dissecting it
# [03:33] <@ted> maybe we should just accept this offering from the compiler gods and move on
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# [03:56] <Waldo> heh
# [03:56] <Waldo> should I try one last time, or should I follow all my friends and jump off the cliff?
# [03:57] <Waldo> choices
# [03:57] <bz> try which?
# [03:57] <bz> oh, like patches
# [03:57] <bz> there is only land or land not
# [03:57] <bz> there is no .. oh, wait
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# [04:03] <cpearce> RyanVM: pong
# [04:04] <RyanVM> cpearce: interestingly, the windows hi-res timing patch seems to have caused an aurora-only intermittent orange
# [04:04] <RyanVM> cpearce: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22650825&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [04:05] <RyanVM> we've hit a few times since that patch landed
# [04:05] <RyanVM> haven't seen it on m-c/inbound afaict
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# [04:06] <cpearce> RyanVM: ride it out, that patch is very important.
# [04:06] <Waldo> mjrosenb: template specialization? you've taken your first step into a larger world
# [04:06] <cpearce> RyanVM: the uplift is only a few days away anyway.
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# [04:07] <RyanVM> cpearce: uh, it's still going to be on beta after the uplift...
# [04:07] <RyanVM> unless you think the orange will magically go away once fx22 is beta?
# [04:08] <cpearce> RyanVM: oh right, of course.
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# [04:08] <RyanVM> i'm just curious as to why we might hit it on 22 and not 23
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# [04:08] <RyanVM> what timing patches aren't on 22 that are on 23?
# [04:09] <RyanVM> avih? ^
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# [04:10] <mjrosenb> Waldo: I've done it before. I just purge it from my memory each time I'm done using the knowledge.
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# [04:13] <philor> pfft, 26 letters ought to be enough for anyone
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# [04:14] <Waldo> and one world currency, right? :-)
# [04:14] <Waldo> BTC for all!
# [04:15] <@dolske> oh my.
# [04:15] <Waldo> more seriously, there are probably languages that use the 26 English letters, that have interesting collation behavior, or something, such that that's not only win for interesting-script languages
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# [04:15] <Waldo> dolske: coming soon in a download size increase near you ;-)
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# [04:18] <tbsaunde> Waldo: yeah, but we already have libraries in the tree for that and don't need all of icu to do it
# [04:19] <Waldo> tbsaunde: people have wanted ICU for various things for awhile, actually, not just the JavaScript API
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# [04:20] <Waldo> tbsaunde: also, you should probably read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect :-)
# [04:20] <philor> oh crap, I think I cloned an intermittent-failure bug, and didn't change the summary
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# [04:21] <tbsaunde> Waldo: that's the first time I've heard that, but in any case they haven't been worth the download / binary size before
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# [04:22] <Waldo> tbsaunde: ECMA-402 has been going on for awhile now, other browsers are shipping it, or will ship it soon; arguments about download size are soon going to be irrelevant, even if it is the case that it wasn't worth download size in the past
# [04:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5e04d0c4a37 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4ca9a6bd8f64 (bug 865059) for jsreftest crashes.
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# [04:22] <tbsaunde> Waldo: my real complaint is more why are we taking a hit to support locales the rest of the system doesn't support
# [04:23] <tbsaunde> Waldo: in north america / western europe sure in india I'm not sure I believe you
# [04:23] <Waldo> tbsaunde: it's not just more locales -- it's significantly more flexibility in formatting; e.g. you can format numbers with or without grouping, with the appropriate number of places of precision for a particular currency, and a bunch more
# [04:23] <Waldo> tbsaunde: finance sites are one of the likely big users of this stuff, for example
# [04:24] <Waldo> date formatting has similar improvements -- you're not limited to a very very few formats, but instead can customize along a bunch of different axises
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# [04:26] <jcranmer> I don't think theres much utility supporting things other than {my current system date formatting} + The One True Format result
# [04:27] <Waldo> it might also influence you to know that right now, systems that want precise formatting of numbers, dates, times, etc. do so by *sending the data back to the server and having it format it there*
# [04:27] <Waldo> which is obviously crazy
# [04:27] <RyanVM> philor: have fun starring jsreftests for the next few hours
# [04:27] <philor> RyanVM: especially if some of them turn out not to be bhackett
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# [04:29] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I really don't understand the problem they're trying to solve, but I really doubt the only possible solutions are support all the formats known to man or do it server side
# [04:30] <Waldo> localization's tough like that; you really do kind of have to support all the formats
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# [04:31] <tbsaunde> Waldo: why?
# [04:31] <Waldo> because it's messy because it's humans involved :-)
# [04:31] <Waldo> the messy intersection of the technical and the cultural
# [04:32] <Waldo> and throw in the political as well, for giggles
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# [04:34] <Waldo> if telling everyone to just use one thing worked, we'd all communicate solely in ASCII
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# [04:35] <tbsaunde> Waldo: nobodies arguing for that
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# [04:36] <Unfocused> yea, at the very lest we also need emoji
# [04:36] <tbsaunde> Waldo: but given that my laptop only has english fonts and the libc locale stuff only for en_CA I hardly see how its useful for firefox to be able to format numbers the way germans do it
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# [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6f8e02a9ab0 - Bobby Holley - Bug 834707 - Disable SOWs for remote XUL domains. r=bz
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# [05:00] <Waldo> hmm
# [05:00] <philor> indeed
# [05:01] <Waldo> I like how the antecedent went entirely unstated there :-0
# [05:01] <Waldo> s/0/)/
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# [05:33] <Waldo> mm, happy fun times, a test I enabled crashed
# [05:34] <Waldo> let's hope that diagnosis of the actual offender is any good :-)
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# [05:36] <philor> probably wasn't
# [05:36] <philor> it wasn't diagnosis, it was momentum
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# [05:40] <philor> oh, look, mixedpuppy wants to go out!
# [05:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78b49aecbefa - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 89d77682678c (bug 818675) for browser_social_multiprovider.js failures
# [05:44] <philor> and there's another unfamiliar one
# [05:44] <philor> let's just have a little closure while we wait to see what's going to come out the other side
# [05:45] <philor> people can go ahead and land on inbound2 in the meantime
# [05:46] <philor> IT'S CALL TRY, TRY IT
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# [05:49] <capella> after all those mails we have an inbound2?
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# [05:56] <philor> no, we will have an inbound2, named cypress, once it's set up, but we'll only have it when RyanVM says we'll have it
# [05:57] <philor> like, if this closure was at 11am, then he would pick the last safe truly green rev on inbound, merge it to cypress, then open cypress, then once enough had been backed out of inbound merge cypress back to inbound
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# [05:58] <philor> me? I don't care about you having to sit with a patch in your queue for an hour *nearly* that much
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# [05:59] <philor> in my day, we sat with patches to land until Sunday morning because that was the only day we could devote enough time to tree watching to land, and we were *happy* to get to land then, damn it
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# [06:00] <tbsaunde> philor: and we checked them in one file at a time because it was cvs?
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# [06:01] <philor> also, funny story: when RyanVM was first proposing the idea of that sort of inbound2, I actually said "well, at least there won't be any excuse for a couple of dozen messages in the thread about it that go off on tangents about git"
# [06:01] <philor> though I guess I was right about there not being any excuse for them, just wrong about the lack of excuse actually stopping people
# [06:01] <jdm> haha
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# [06:02] <philor> Waldo: do you see what I see?
# [06:02] <jcranmer> the first patch I landed went from filing to r+ in <15 minutes
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# [06:03] <jcranmer> and then proceeded to wait for 3 hours while I figured out how to land on CVS
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# [06:03] <philor> the first patch I got review on, gavin landed... two years later? something like that
# [06:03] <philor> we used to not have the very best docs about checkin-needed
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# [06:03] <jcranmer> the first patch I wrote landed 9 months later
# [06:04] <jcranmer> turns out that I picked the one thing which required smashing half of the codebase to introduce
# [06:04] <jcranmer> now, as a result, I tend to mentally file any patch that doesn't require rewriting hundreds of lines of code as "trivial"
# [06:05] <Waldo> philor: thus far the backout landing looks non-orange in the ways my initial push was orange; what am I missing?
# [06:06] <philor> Waldo: that's exactly what I see, too
# [06:06] <Waldo> okay, good :-)
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# [06:06] <Waldo> if you'd said it in a Christopher Walken voice, I might have understood you better :-)
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# [06:08] <jcranmer> I've got about three bugs to fix
# [06:08] <jcranmer> oh joy
# [06:08] <philor> I'm pretty sure I sound exactly like Bing Crosby singing it
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# [06:08] <philor> and inbound's open
# [06:08] <capella> \o/
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# [06:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9189df8e7d74 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 841495 - Implement background page thumbnail service (part 1: propagate private-browsing state from parent docshell to remote docshell). r=smaug
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# [08:03] <Mook> hmm, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html still mentions Personas (as in light weight themes); might need to change that to match the current state of amo...
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# [08:22] <glob> does anyone know if it's possible to get the update channel from content javascript?
# [08:23] <glob> when someone files a bug in bugzilla, it would be useful to know if they are running nightly/aurora/beta/release
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# [08:25] <qDot> glob: Might try #gaia? We may do that in the Phone UI somewhere.
# [08:26] <glob> qDot, yeah, but probably not from content. from chrome i could just read the app.update.channel pref
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# [08:28] <sankha93> why do I get InternalError: allocation size overflow when I use Number.POSITIVE_INFINITY in a jit-test?
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# [08:59] <Callek> jesup: so apparantly I'm hitting your LIBCMT.LIB issue too, I suspect a faulty win update at this point
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# [09:08] <Callek> I am *totally* too tired
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# [09:08] <Callek> I just read that comment as "rm all CraigsList, ..." the first time through
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# [09:47] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, see his reply to you on his blog :)
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# [09:48] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: great! except I can't remember the url ;-)
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# [09:49] <Ms2ger> http://whereswalden.com/2013/04/26/mozillapodoperations-h-functions-for-zeroing-assigning-to-copying-and-comparing-plain-old-data-objects/
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# [09:51] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: hmm, I always understood that templates were resolved before arrays decayed into pointers
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# [10:01] <glandium> Callek, jesup: what libcmt issue?
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# [10:02] <Callek> glandium: http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/2381421
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# [10:03] <glandium> interesting
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# [10:04] <Callek> glandium: of course in my case, last build was ~ november
# [10:05] <Callek> (I don't locally build anywhere near as often as I used to)
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# [10:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6926446e12f5 - Jonathan Kew - bug 867818 - ensure Download confirmation icon is the correct size on win/hidpi systems. r=dolske
# [10:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/081ebf4e0886 - Jonathan Kew - bug 866365 - declare both firefox.exe and plugin-container.exe as dpi-aware via their manifests. r=jimm,gps
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# [14:05] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: bah, after all that I messed up the formatting on my comment
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# [14:07] <NeilAway> jfkthame: hmm, so now that makes all other applications unaware of dpi? what happens to their plugins?
# [14:09] <Gijs> NeilAway: might I bother you with a XBL question?
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# [14:09] <NeilAway> Gijs: sure, gimme a minute though, call of nature
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# [14:11] <RyanVM> edmorley: so about that win pgo bustage on inbound
# [14:11] <edmorley> RyanVM: yeah had retriggered the one on 081ebf4e0886, but the psuh after has just come back red too :-/
# [14:11] <Gijs> NeilAway: so on the UX/jamun branches, we're seeing XUL <toolbar>'s insertItem method not being available. It's fine on nightly, but a diff shows that there's literally 0 difference in toolbar.xml between those branches and m-c. Any idea what could be causing a XBL method to go AWOL like that?
# [14:12] <edmorley> RyanVM: and clobber build too
# [14:12] <RyanVM> edmorley: just closed inbound
# [14:13] <RyanVM> i suspect 74212adbe306
# [14:14] <NeilAway> Gijs: a single method? no idea sorry
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# [14:15] <Gijs> Hmm, I suppose that's a fair point, let me check what's up with the others
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# [14:23] <Gijs> Oh, d'oh. It seems we're using different XBL bindings on UX/jamun. :\
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# [14:29] <NeilAway> ttaubert: 1 isn't a prime :-P
# [14:30] <ttaubert> oops yeah, I was too focused on the code
# [14:30] <ttaubert> NeilAway: let me fix that :P
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# [14:31] <ttaubert> NeilAway: but you get the idea... ;)
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# [14:34] <NeilAway> ttaubert: much better now :-)
# [14:34] <ttaubert> NeilAway: :)
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# [14:43] <Pauly> hello
# [14:43] <Pauly> does anybody know how can i check the NSPR version in FF ?
# [14:43] <padenot> Pauly: about:support
# [14:43] <padenot> Pauly: near the bottom of the page
# [14:43] <RyanVM> what he said
# [14:44] <RyanVM> Library Versions at the bottom
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# [14:44] <Pauly> thank you guys
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# [15:11] <RyanVM> baku: ping
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# [15:11] <baku> RyanVM, pong
# [15:12] <RyanVM> baku: is bug 868943 intended for b2g18 only?
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# [15:12] <baku> no, let me create a m-c patch
# [15:12] <RyanVM> thx
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# [15:22] <jfkthame> NeilAway: see bug 866365#c40 - please comment in the bug if you think we should reconsider the change there
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# [15:28] <jaws> Bas: hey have you had a chance to look at bug 672885 this week?
# [15:30] <mga> hello, I'm testing the built-in debugger: if I set a breakpoint on a line in which there's a call to a function and another breakpoint on the next line, which is an if statement, when I step over the debugger should stop at the next line, right?
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# [15:32] <Gijs> mga: unless there are breakpoints in the function call, or the function throws an exception, I think so. But it's hard to tell. In general, if you "step over" it should always stop on the next line.
# [15:33] <Gijs> mga: why?
# [15:33] <NeilAway> jfkthame: well, I don't have anything hidpi to test with, so I don't know what the expected fallout is
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# [15:34] <mga> Gijs: I thought so, I'm testing bug 867880 and I tried to follow the steps using also firebug (you know, to see how it should have worked), but it doesn't stop either at the next line
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# [15:35] <mga> Gijs: it stops at a different line than the built-in debugger, but still I thought I might have misunderstood the meaning of "step over"
# [15:35] <@smaug> BenWa: is it possible to start the profiler from js
# [15:35] <@smaug> I mean from a web page
# [15:35] <@smaug> would be nice to have start()/stop()
# [15:36] <@smaug> (still can't understand the UI)
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# [15:37] <Fallen> shouldn't I be able to get the default pref value of a pref set by an extension's preferences.js using Services.prefs.getDefaultBranch("").getCharPref("calendar.backend") ?
# [15:37] <Gijs> mga: the code is throwing an exception.
# [15:37] <Fallen> I'm getting NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED
# [15:38] <mga> Gijs: so this is not a bug
# [15:38] <Gijs> mga: I would say that it's not a bug in the sense that there is no "skipping" in the sense that the OP means.
# [15:39] <Gijs> mga: however, I do think there could be better UI in the debugger about why the things you see are happening.
# [15:39] <Gijs> robcee: ^^
# [15:39] <Gijs> mga: I don't know if there's a bug on file about that already. Rob might know.
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# [15:40] <Gijs> mga: I can comment on the bug, or you can do it if you like? :)
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# [15:41] <mga> Gijs: thank you, I can do it (do I say that it's not a bug, it's an exception and he may want to request an enhancement for the ui?)
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# [15:41] <Gijs> mga: essentially, yes. If you switch tabs in your devtools, you'll see that there's an error reported in the console, namely that the function atoi64pg does not exist. :)
# [15:41] <Gijs> You can tell the reporter that. :)
# [15:42] <mga> Gijs: thanks! I didn't see that error reported either
# [15:42] <Gijs> mga: wait, are you saying there's no error reported?
# [15:42] <Gijs> or you just missed that it was there?
# [15:43] <mga> Gijs: now I'm using Firefox 15 (testing backwards), but no, I don't see anything
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# [15:43] <Gijs> mga: ah, but you probably need to let the script run in order for the exception to go all the way to the toplevel, before it shows up in the console...
# [15:43] <mga> Gijs: maybe using Aurora 22... let's see
# [15:43] * Gijs is testing with 21 and seeing an exception.
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# [15:46] <mga> Gijs: you know what, I think that the reporter doesn't see the error because he's using only the debugger
# [15:46] <Gijs> Right. :)
# [15:46] <mga> Gijs: I'll tell him that
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# [15:47] <joe> oh my goodness smartmake-style mach
# [15:47] <joe> do love
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# [15:48] <Bas> jaws: Not yet.
# [15:49] <JosiahOne> So, I added a printf statement to a method, but I don't know how to run Firefox so that I can see the log. Since it isn't javascript I can't use the in-browser utilities.
# [15:49] <BenWa> smaug: You can use window.profile / window.profileEnd
# [15:50] <BenWa> smaug: It may need some tweaking. I think perhaps devtools profiler and the addon will fight over the events. I haven't tried recently
# [15:50] <padenot> JosiahOne: it should be in the console in which you typed ./mach build
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# [15:50] <BenWa> smaug: See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772665
# [15:50] <@smaug> BenWa: what is devtools profiler?
# [15:51] <JosiahOne> padenot: Well, I would need to run it from there wouldn't I?
# [15:51] <padenot> ha
# [15:51] <BenWa> smaug: The 'Profiler' tabs in the devtools menu when you open the inspector
# [15:51] <BenWa> It only shows JS information ATM
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# [15:51] <JosiahOne> padenot: :) I've just bee double-clicking on the app icon.
# [15:51] <padenot> JosiahOne: ./mach run --no-remote -profile /tmp/foo, then
# [15:51] <padenot> assuming /tmp/foo exists, in can be any directory
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# [15:52] <JosiahOne> padenot: Thanks.
# [15:52] <mcsmurf> JosiahOne: Linux or Windows?
# [15:53] <JosiahOne> mcsmurf: Neither.
# [15:53] <mcsmurf> OS X
# [15:53] <JosiahOne> Yep.
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# [15:53] <mcsmurf> :D
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# [15:53] <mcsmurf> ok, then see above
# [15:53] <mcsmurf> what padenot said
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# [15:55] <JosiahOne> mcsmurf: Yep, got it to work now. Except unfortunately it wasn't what I wanted to see. :(
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# [15:55] <mcsmurf> JosiahOne: I recommened using a debugger though instead of printf ;)
# [15:55] <mcsmurf> although printf might also be useful in special cases
# [15:55] <padenot> that is, doing ./mach debug --no-remote -profile /tmp/foo
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# [15:56] <JosiahOne> mcsmurf: I think I might. I was just about to ask if I could trace a list of calls Firefox makes.
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# [15:58] <JosiahOne> padenot: Umm, and how do I make it actually run after using that command.
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# [15:58] <JosiahOne> Nevermind.
# [15:58] <JosiahOne> I got it. :)
# [15:58] <padenot> you type run
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# [15:59] <padenot> you might want to learn about the "break", "next", "cont" commands
# [15:59] <JosiahOne> padenot: Is there some sort of reference page I can read about this?
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# [16:01] <padenot> hm, not sure if there is an approachable manual I could recommend
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# [16:02] <padenot> http://sourceware.org/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb/ is precise, but can be hard to read
# [16:02] <JosiahOne> padenot: That looks fine.
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# [16:03] <JosiahOne> padenot: Thanks.
# [16:03] <padenot> have fun :-)
# [16:03] <JosiahOne> It's a shame I have to manually enter locations for breakpoints. I liked my "click on the line in the IDE". Oh well.
# [16:04] <padenot> there is certainly a gui for your favorite editor that uses gdb underneath
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# [16:05] <JosiahOne> padenot: I wonder if Xcode will work.
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# [16:06] <@ehsan> RyanVM: any idea what's up with this PGO bustage?
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# [16:06] <@ehsan> is bug 867070 to blame?
# [16:06] <RyanVM> ehsan" waiting on retriggers
# [16:06] <JosiahOne> padenot: Well, I'll play around with it. Right now I don't need breakpoints to often, so it's okay. Thanks again.
# [16:07] <RyanVM> ehsan: i suspect 74212adbe306
# [16:07] <RyanVM> oh crap
# [16:07] <RyanVM> didn't see those finished
# [16:07] <@ehsan> nope
# [16:07] <RyanVM> argh
# [16:07] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I think the IonMonkey change is to blame
# [16:08] <@ehsan> since it touches
# [16:08] <@ehsan> js
# [16:08] <@ehsan> and xpcshell runs
# [16:08] <@ehsan> js
# [16:08] <@ehsan> \o/
# [16:08] <@smaug> is there some shortcut key to open a new tab next to the current one?
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# [16:08] <RyanVM> could be 93f778d03364 too, though
# [16:08] <@ehsan> smaug: no
# [16:08] <@ehsan> RyanVM: it's true
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# [16:08] <@ehsan> RyanVM: why don't we back them out both for now?
# [16:09] <RyanVM> ehsan: which seems possibly more ugly
# [16:09] <RyanVM> ehsan: sounds fair to me
# [16:09] <@ehsan> I'll back out
# [16:09] <jcranmer> hmm, about a dozen patches to upload today I reckon
# [16:09] <RyanVM> i got it
# [16:10] <@ehsan> cool
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# [16:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e39de8eb4716 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 867070, bug 868990) for Windows PGO bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [16:15] <@ehsan> RyanVM: btw, https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/53231b5a86e4, which I mistakenly pushed to central _without_ DONTBUILD might cause merge conflicts :(
# [16:15] <@ehsan> RyanVM: if it does, please let me know and I'll resolve them
# [16:16] <RyanVM> it didn't
# [16:16] <Yoric> ttaubert: Fun fact – there is a field called "activeWindowSSiCache" and another one called "_activeWindowSSiCache". They seem to be the same. Except I'm not sure.
# [16:16] <@ehsan> oh good!
# [16:16] <@ehsan> Yoric: hey
# [16:16] <Yoric> hi
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# [16:16] <@ehsan> Yoric: did you want to talk about file.move?
# [16:16] <Yoric> ehsan: Can we do this in a few hours?
# [16:17] <@ehsan> Yoric: just ping me when you can!
# [16:17] <@ehsan> Yoric: or needinfo? me on the bug
# [16:17] <Yoric> ok
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# [16:20] <Yoric> ttaubert: Ok, the good news is that I believe that the code is now testable. Bad news: memory leaks.
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# [16:20] <RyanVM> baku: get a chance to update that patch?
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# [16:21] <baku> RyanVM, it's ready. I'm compiling and testing it quickly. 10mins and it's fully ready :)
# [16:21] <RyanVM> ok
# [16:21] <Yoric> ehsan: Actually, I just commented in the bug.
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# [16:24] <@ehsan> taras: ping
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# [16:26] <robcee> mga: could I direct you to #devtools for your debugger questions?
# [16:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/865b9be24831 - Iivari Äikäs - Bug 617897 - Replace calls to AppendASCII('*') with Append('*'). r=dougt
# [16:27] <robcee> just reading backscroll and checking out bug 867880
# [16:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/330884194efe - Ioana Budnar - Bug 856043 - Tests to check that session restore buttons from in-content pages are disabled in private mode. r=ehsan
# [16:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56be8e218da0 - Ioana Budnar - Bug 856043 - Test that the Restore Previous Session menu item is not displayed in private mode. r=ehsan
# [16:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23a6b9f4dc69 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865242 - Remove support for soundfield panning from PannerNode; r=padenot
# [16:28] <mga> robcee: I think it's all resolved now, but I'll ask in that channel next time, thanks
# [16:28] <robcee> smaug: console.profile and profileEnd will be landing soon
# [16:28] <robcee> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817836
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# [16:29] <robcee> mga: thanks for testing
# [16:29] <robcee> we just landed a fix to prevent too many Steps from being needed in some cases
# [16:30] <mga> robcee: my pleasure, I'm trying to get my way into the code, basically
# [16:30] <robcee> awesome!
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# [16:30] <Gijs> robcee, mga: this is an interesting case anyway, IMO. ( bug 867880)
# [16:30] <mga> I already made a patch, but it wasn't really about coding, just changing some label content
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# [16:30] <mga> Gijs: why?
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# [16:31] <Gijs> robcee, mga: essentially, if you're debugging, because of how we highlight the current line, it's not clear whether you're in "normal" codeflow or if you're witnessing an exception being thrown up the callstack.
# [16:31] <Gijs> robcee: do we have a bug on file for making that more obvious?
# [16:31] <robcee> handling exceptions should be better
# [16:31] <robcee> we do, lemme find it
# [16:31] <mga> Gijs: you know, it could be better if the debugger marked the line in red, for example
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# [16:33] <robcee> seriously, let's take this to #devtools
# [16:33] <mga> robcee: ok :)
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# [16:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/39ff12be624b - Jan de Mooij - Bug 690446 - Emit *GNAME ops in non-eval strict-mode code. r=bhackett
# [16:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f91553baf96 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 866050 - Fix UsesBeforeIonRecompile. r=bhackett
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# [16:39] <@smaug> robcee: that is about devtools?
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# [16:39] <@smaug> robcee: I'm more interested in gecko profiler
# [16:39] <mikeratcliffe> Do any of you guys know why telemetry histograms would all be empty inside a mochitest even when the test enables telemetry and writes to the histograms?
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# [16:40] <robcee> smaug: should work for the addon as well
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# [16:40] <@smaug> ah
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# [16:40] <robcee> in fact, I thought BenWa already had support for that in the addon
# [16:40] <@smaug> k
# [16:40] <robcee> because we stubbed out those console apis for him
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# [16:42] <BenWa|sms> smaug: Yes, calling window.profile/profileEnd will send an event. If the addon is installed it will actually trigger the profiling
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# [16:43] <@smaug> robcee: BenWa: do we really want window.* methods?
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# [16:43] <@smaug> it is rather risky to pollute global scope
# [16:43] <BenWa> smaug: It was to be consistent with webkit's non standard thing
# [16:43] <@smaug> ah
# [16:43] <BenWa> But yea I don't think their API is good at all
# [16:43] <robcee> BenWa: window or console?
# [16:43] <BenWa> ohh it's in console
# [16:43] <BenWa> right
# [16:43] <robcee> yes
# [16:43] <@smaug> that makes more sense
# [16:43] <robcee> so, window.console.profile*
# [16:44] <robcee> lilbit
# [16:44] <BenWa> but even then their API is bad
# [16:44] <robcee> still slightly weird, imo, but it's a firebugism
# [16:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM: the nsHtml5OwningUTF16Buffer leak... is that known?
# [16:47] <RyanVM> doesn't ring a bell
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# [16:49] <@ehsan> jcranmer: question about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=868285#c1, why is this the best way?
# [16:50] <jcranmer> ehsan: compared to what?
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# [16:51] <@ehsan> jcranmer: compared to fixing the code? :)
# [16:52] <jcranmer> ehsan: I talked about it with sfink briefly
# [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8e522d6991f - Olli Pettay - Bug 868232 - Paris binding for MozStkCommandEvent, r=peterv
# [16:52] <@ehsan> yes
# [16:52] <jcranmer> he was of the opinion that it really ought to be a stack class, but those two things are exceptions
# [16:52] <@ehsan> that doesn't make any sense!
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# [16:53] <@ehsan> jcranmer: shall I needinfo? him?
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# [16:53] <jcranmer> those are "special" values which are specifically safe
# [16:53] <baku> RyanVM, ready
# [16:53] <jcranmer> you can needinfo? him in the bug for better justification
# [16:54] <@ehsan> jcranmer: ok will do, thnaks!
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# [16:55] <Gijs> who knows about the add-on manager besides Mossop? :)
# [16:56] <glob> Gijs, try unfocused
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# [16:58] <Gijs> glob: ta
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# [16:58] <h4writer> RyanVM, ping
# [16:59] <sfink|afk> ehsan: those two instances exist for the purpose of being exceptions. They're when you need a Handle to make the GC rooting happy, but the Value you're passing is JSVAL_VOID or JSVAL_NULL, which don't matter to the GC. The alternative is to stack-allocated a Rooted<Value>, stick JSVAL_NULL in it, and autoconvert it to a Handle. Slower and way less convenient.
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# [16:59] <RyanVM> h4writer: pong
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# [16:59] <h4writer> RyanVM, could it be you forgot to mention a backout in the related bugs?
# [16:59] <RyanVM> h4writer: i was waiting to see which one was actually the cause
# [16:59] <RyanVM> so I could re-land the innocent one
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# [17:00] <h4writer> RyanVM, uhm, how? Are you running a try run or something?
# [17:00] <sfink|afk> ehsan: er, actually the ones in that patch are for void and empty jsids, not Values, though we'll need the same treatment for Values now too (bz just needed them and added them)
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# [17:00] <RyanVM> h4writer: I can manually trigger pgo runs on any push...
# [17:00] <h4writer> RyanVM, oh cool :D
# [17:00] <RyanVM> h4writer: yours was broken, but jandem's is still going
# [17:01] <RyanVM> I hadn't triggered pgo on his earlier because I actually suspected something else as the culprit
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# [17:02] <h4writer> RyanVM, ah, I would bet against it being my patch, but you never know ;)
# [17:02] <RyanVM> i suspect jandem's
# [17:02] <h4writer> RyanVM, he won't be happy with that. He did a try run to be sure :P
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# [17:03] <@ehsan> sfink|afk: (I commented in the bug.) that's all fair, and I don't really care about that!
# [17:03] <jandem> h4writer, RyanVM: yeah my patches tend to break windows PGO bulids for some reason :(
# [17:03] <RyanVM> jandem: yeah, and pgo on Try is a pain :
# [17:03] <RyanVM> :(
# [17:03] <@ehsan> sfink|afk: my question was, why is adding MOZ_IGNORE_STACK the best way to solve this?
# [17:03] <@ehsan> sfink|afk: and your answer implies that it isn't :)
# [17:03] <RyanVM> anyway, I'll update the bugs when we know for sure
# [17:04] <RyanVM> and re-land whatever wasn't at fault
# [17:04] <h4writer> RyanVM, but carry on. I was a bit surprised you would forget mentioning it in the bug report. (Never caught you doing something wrong ;)). But good to know you also take care of this :D
# [17:04] <RyanVM> clearly you need to watch more often in that case :P
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# [17:12] <jandem> RyanVM: so the error is "mozpack.errors.ErrorMessage: Error: Error while running startup cache precompilation", right?
# [17:13] <RyanVM> yeah
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# [17:13] <jandem> RyanVM: do you happen to know if that runs the browser?
# [17:13] <jandem> the packager script
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# [17:13] <RyanVM> you can see the commands right above it, no?
# [17:14] <RyanVM> it's xpcshell.exe
# [17:14] <RyanVM> Executing e:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-pgo-00000000000000000/build/obj-firefox/dist\bin\xpcshell.exe -g e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-pgo-00000000000000000\build\obj-firefox\dist\bin/ -a e:\builds\moz2_slave\m-in-w32-pgo-00000000000000000\build\obj-firefox\dist\bin/ -f e:/builds/moz2_slave/m-in-w32-pgo-00000000000000000/build/toolkit/mozapps/installer\precompile_cache.js -e precompile_startupcach
# [17:14] <RyanVM> e("resource://gre/");
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# [17:17] <jorendorff> bz: the spec says each script has a base URL (and all the APIs use it to resolve relative URLs)
# [17:18] <jorendorff> bz: normally a script inherits its base URL from the document (or possibly an xml:base= attr)
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# [17:18] <jorendorff> bz: but Anne Van Kesteren says the two "can be different in cross-document scenarios." What sort of scenarios?
# [17:18] <jorendorff> annevk: or you
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# [17:19] <jorendorff> which i incorrectly interpreted as "document base url"
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# [17:29] <annevk> jorendorff: iirc it depends on which script is running what the base URL is, unless you're using XMLHttpRequest
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# [17:30] <jorendorff> annevk: right, and normally the entry script's base url is the same as the document's base url, even if it was loaded from somewhere else
# [17:30] * jorendorff didn't understand "cross-document scenarios"
# [17:30] <jorendorff> annevk: part of my mistake was thinking "oh, i'll just look up whatever xhr does, and do that"
# [17:30] <annevk> jorendorff: so if some script in an iframe runs and invokes a function in the main document that does something like new Image the base URL used will be that of the iframe
# [17:30] <jorendorff> because, entry frame. oh, i see.
# [17:31] <jorendorff> stack inspect all the things!
# [17:31] <jorendorff> annevk: thanks.
# [17:31] <annevk> XMLHttpRequest however takes its base URL from the document associated with its interface object
# [17:32] <annevk> and doesn't care about entry script
# [17:32] <annevk> (unless you're in a worker...)
# [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87a68fd84800 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 869073 - make WebIDL enums enum classes instead of plain enums; r=bz
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# [17:33] <jorendorff> annevk: are there any other APIs accessible in workers that resolve relative URLs?
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# [17:34] <annevk> jorendorff: importScripts
# [17:34] <annevk> jorendorff: in workers everything uses the worker's base URL though
# [17:34] <jorendorff> oh, ok.
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# [17:35] <annevk> brb
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# [17:38] <@ehsan> froydnj: do you know why bug 869073 never broke b2g builds?
# [17:38] <NeilAway> Fallen: what does getPrefType return?
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# [17:39] <@ehsan> huh
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# [17:40] <froydnj> so...very small corner case fixed =/
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# [17:40] <froydnj> otoh, slightly nicer code
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# [17:43] <Fallen> NeilAway: ah sorry, just found out it was my fault. It doesn't work in xpcshell, probably until you load the profile
# [17:43] <Fallen> works fine in app
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# [17:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f162188fed4 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 868929 - Convert ImageDocument to WebIDL, switch to WebIDL. r=bz.
# [17:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b87e943e0ab3 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 868929 - Convert ImageDocument to WebIDL, consolidate PostCreateWrapper call into nsIDocument::WrapObject. r=bz.
# [17:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/249001348a81 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 868929 - Convert ImageDocument to WebIDL, move class into a header. r=bz.
# [17:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a86629a8fa2 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 868929 - Convert ImageDocument to WebIDL, drop hasXPConnectImpls from documents. r=bz.
# [17:44] <@ehsan> froydnj: thanks for doing the right thing in that bug :)
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# [17:53] <@ehsan> froydnj: you're lucky, they take half an hour for me :(
# [17:53] <mbrubeck> froydnj: http://www.arewesmallyet.com/
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# [17:54] <froydnj> mbrubeck: wc -c libxul ?
# [17:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63b5d65eaedb - Sumedh Shekhar - Bug 804742 - EnsureStringLength doesn't work. f=Ms2ger, r=ehsan
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# [17:56] <mbrubeck> froydnj: hence the sudden drop on Windows when we switched compression algorithms
# [17:56] <@gavin> what is that measuring?
# [17:56] <@gavin> oh, you just said that
# [17:56] <mbrubeck> see above
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# [17:56] <froydnj> kind of a depressing graph
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# [17:57] <khuey> that non-profit sounds an awful lot like mozilla
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# [18:18] <AryehGregor> ehsan, so do you have any suggestions for how to test for whether std::nullptr_t is available?
# [18:18] <Waldo> khuey|away: :-\
# [18:18] <AryehGregor> I was thinking I could use decltype(nullptr) instead, if that works on all compilers that support nullptr to begin with. That would also save the include.
# [18:18] <taras> glandium: i dont think that was my team
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# [18:18] <AryehGregor> (AFAICT, the library on my system defines std::nullptr_t as decltype(nullptr) anyway.)
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# [18:19] <taras> vladan: http://symbo1ics.com/blog/?p=1709
# [18:19] <jcranmer> decltype isn't supported until gcc 4.6 IIRC
# [18:19] <AryehGregor> 4.3.
# [18:19] <AryehGregor> http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html
# [18:19] <AryehGregor> nullptr is 4.6.
# [18:19] <AryehGregor> Clang also supports decltype before nullptr.
# [18:19] <AryehGregor> Dunno about VC++, though.
# [18:19] <Ms2ger> Do we need to compile with some opt-in flag?
# [18:19] <vladan> taras: thx
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# [18:23] <jcranmer> AryehGregor: first off, we don't require C++11 mode yet
# [18:23] <jcranmer> [it might be time to revisit that though]
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# [18:27] <glandium> jcranmer: i'd appreciate if we could wait for 25 for that
# [18:28] <@smaug> felipe: pong
# [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b62ffcdb0ab - Sunny - Bug 867034 - Remove |this| from |this.Utils|. r=jaws
# [18:28] <jcranmer> glandium: I'm in no rush myeself
# [18:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b1f607fd243 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 867070: IonMonkey: Disable hoisting of some instructions when it doesn't enable hoisting one of their uses, r=dvander
# [18:28] <jcranmer> I've considered doing the beginning of a s/PRUnichar/char16_t/ conversion
# [18:28] <glandium> jcranmer: well, b2g still uses gcc 4.4, so there's at least that as a hard blocker at mozilla
# [18:29] <jcranmer> but that requires C++11
# [18:29] <glandium> although b2g's gcc 4.4 might be building in c++11 mode
# [18:29] <jcranmer> I think it is last I checked
# [18:30] <glandium> jcranmer: linux distros with gcc 4.4 aren't, though
# [18:30] * jcranmer really wants auto though
# [18:31] <felipe> smaug: did you see comment 7 in bug 862519? any opinions?
# [18:31] <froydnj> does anybody have an android sdk lying about on their disk and is willing to run a grep for me?
# [18:31] <taras> khuey|away: that was indeed my team
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# [18:31] <taras> :(
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# [18:31] <glandium> froydnj: \o_
# [18:32] <glandium> taras: sounded like it
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# [18:32] <froydnj> glandium: "find $ANDROID_SDK -type f |xargs grep VisibilityState"
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# [18:33] <@smaug> felipe: sorry, missed that
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# [18:33] <glandium> froydnj: system-images/android-17/armeabi-v7a/system.img and system-images/android-16/armeabi-v7a/system.img
# [18:34] <glandium> i'm not sure my sdk is complete, though
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# [18:40] <NeilAway> froydnj: grep -Ir VisibilityState $ANDROID_SDK
# [18:40] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, pff, rgrep
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# [18:45] <froydnj> NeilAway: nice. may have to add -I to emacs's grep options
# [18:45] <khuey> bsmedberg: did we get rid of the '_P' appending to the various XPCOM symbols?
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# [19:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90a789485fbb - Bobby Holley - Bug 868675 - Introduce a Cu API for waiving/unwaiving. r=gabor,sr=mrbkap
# [19:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b440e4f094c - Bobby Holley - Bug 868675 - Tests. r=gabor
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# [19:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e690c384582a - Bobby Holley - Bug 868675 - Allow waiving on non-native objects. r=gabor
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# [19:20] <fryn> jwatt: ping
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# [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9931f97194ec - Lucas Rocha - Bug 869022 - Fade tabs button and menu away when tabs panel is open (r=mfinkle)
# [19:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa6a74a92890 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 869166 - Add space between URL bar and tab curve (r=mfinkle)
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# [19:21] <fryn> jwatt: hello! could we remove the outline on <input type="range"> when it's focused?
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# [19:21] <fryn> (the dotted focus ring)
# [19:21] <jwatt> fryn: yup
# [19:21] <jwatt> in principle
# [19:21] <jwatt> fryn: can you take it to a bug and CC me
# [19:22] <jwatt> I'm about to leave
# [19:22] <fryn> jwatt: ok, will do. thanks. :) right, you're in london.
# [19:22] <jwatt> indeed :)
# [19:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0653eab4d95 - Jim Blandy - Bug 840292: Change debugging server xpcshell tests to use a "listTabs" request, rather than a "listContexts" request. r=dcamp
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# [19:28] <jwir3> are there known permaoranges on try?
# [19:28] <jwir3> (it seems like whatever I push, I get B2G Arm Opt R1 orange)
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# [19:28] <jwir3> something about layout/reftests/reftest-sanity/647192-1.html
# [19:28] <jandem> does anybody know the set of pages we use for PGO builds on windows?
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# [19:50] <seth> bsmedberg: just a heads up, whenever inbound opens i'm going to re-enable the use of hardware surfaces on windows, because i believe i've fixed the issue that was causing that spike in empty dump crashes
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# [19:50] <seth> bsmedberg: if it turns out i'm wrong we can revert
# [19:50] <seth> bsmedberg: pretty sure i'm right though =)
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# [19:51] <mixedpuppy> philor: I'm getting more paint regression emails, but the patch linked to is the old patch that I fixed, are those just old queued emails?
# [19:52] <philor> mbrubeck: ^ ?
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# [19:52] <jandem> philor: great, thanks!
# [19:53] * philor might sort of kinda completely ignore the regression emails a bit mostly
# [19:53] <dholbert> mixedpuppy, probably just that the m.d.tree-management bots were waiting for enough data before sending emails
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# [19:53] <seth> i noticed more lag than usual from the regression emails lately
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# [19:53] <mbrubeck> mixedpuppy: catlee-buildduty and I just tweaked the config of the regression thingy: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869537
# [19:53] <seth> got one today from something i pushed last week
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# [19:54] <mbrubeck> That tweak is designed to fix false negatives, so it's expected that it will now find some regressions that it previously missed.
# [19:54] <mixedpuppy> ok, thanks
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# [19:55] <mbrubeck> seth: In general you should get notified of any regressions 13 jobs after they occur. For non-PGO jobs on inbound that ends up being about 12 hours, give or take.
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# [19:56] <seth> mbrubeck: yeah, usually it's been pretty prompt
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# [19:56] <mbrubeck> But when I go and change things that affect past scores, it might generate new emails for old pushes up to 30 days old. :P
# [19:57] <seth> that makes sense
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# [19:59] <Rahul> How can i edit the search box to add option of "add website" in mozilla?
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# [20:01] <mbrubeck> Rahul: You might want to look at the code that does that for opensearch...
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# [20:02] <mbrubeck> Rahul: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/search.xml#300
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# [20:02] <mbrubeck> You'll need to create a new <menuitem> element and add it to the searchbar-popup <menupopup>
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# [20:03] <mbrubeck> You can do it dynamically like that function does, or hard-code it here if you want it to be present all the time: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/search.xml#47
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# [20:04] <Rahul> How to create a new <menuitem> element ?
# [20:06] <mbrubeck> Rahul: Add a <xul:menuitem> as a child of the <xul:menupopup>, either by using createElmentNS and insertBefore (as in my first link) or by adding XML elements (as in my second link).
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# [20:07] <Rahul_> How to create a new <menuitem> element ?
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# [20:07] <mbrubeck> Rahul: Are you able to open my links? Please take the time to read them; you can also find documentation on MDN. If you have questions, please be more specific.
# [20:08] <Rahul> How to dynamically create a new <menuitem> element
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# [20:09] <mbrubeck> Rahul: If you have just a single item that's either present or absent, then you could add another <xul:menuitem> to the popup at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/search.xml#47 and just write code to show or hide it (using its ".hidden" property).
# [20:10] <mbrubeck> If you may need any number of menu items, then you should use createElementNS and insertBefore, as in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/search.xml#47
# [20:10] <mbrubeck> I mean http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/search.xml#47
# [20:10] <mbrubeck> arg
# [20:10] <mbrubeck> I *mean* http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/search/content/search.xml#300
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# [20:11] <Rahul> ok thanks.
# [20:11] <mbrubeck> Rahul: You might want to just use the code that's already there, and either change "mCurrentBrowser.engines" to return additional engines, or have the rebuildPopupDynamic ask for additional engines from another source.
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# [20:16] <Rahul> Ok if i wants to add a option dynamically then this will work fine?>
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# [20:18] <davidb> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-05-07#Should_we_switch_from_hg_to_git.3F
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# [20:19] <tbsaunde> davidb: you mean something slightly useful happened at the meeting?
# [20:19] <davidb> it is currently the topic! :)
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# [20:20] <abr> davidb: Argh! Kill me now. As confusing as Distributed SCM systems are to start with, at least HG seems to make the concepts comprehensible. I find GIT to be utterly opaque and frustrating.
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# [20:21] <davidb> abr: this topic will migrate to a list
# [20:21] <mcsmurf> I'm not in favor of the move either, every vote counts.. ;)
# [20:21] <davidb> there will be much debate I'm sure
# [20:21] <abr> davidb: I want to make sure I'm subscribed to what I'm sure will be a religious war on the order of emacs-versus-vi. Which list should I join?
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# [20:22] <davidb> probably dev-planning or dev-platform
# [20:22] <abr> thanks
# [20:22] <davidb> np
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# [20:29] <bent> RyanVM, approval-b2g18+ still shows up in your queries right?
# [20:29] <RyanVM> bent: yes
# [20:30] <bent> \o/
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# [20:35] <Optimizer> when will the bug 900000 bounty hunt start ?
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# [20:42] <tn> jmaher, ping
# [20:43] <jmaher> tn: pong
# [20:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f52629c9d08 - Bas Schouten - Bug 830347 - Part 3: Integrate new D3D compositor into widget. r=jmathies
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/478c8b6a9736 - Bas Schouten - Bug 830347 - Part 2: Add the code for CompositorD3D11. r=jrmuizel
# [20:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05762bbaf268 - Bas Schouten - Bug 830347 - Part 1: Initialize D3D11 device when needed. r=jrmuizel
# [20:43] <tn> jmaher, hi. i noticed that all of layout/reftests/bugs is disabled on android. do you know if there are any plans to enabled (most of) those reftests on android?
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# [20:44] <jmaher> tn: I personally have no plans to work on it in the near future, I would bet some of those could be enabled
# [20:45] <jmaher> tn: the problem is that I found most of the tests would fail the majority of the time
# [20:45] <jmaher> many years ago
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# [20:47] <jmaher> tn: this bug is the bug which caused a lot of problems: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638815
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# [20:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35deab019135 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 867530 - Move PresArena poisoning code to MFBT. r=roc
# [20:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f1def8c39e8 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 868906 - Make GetChildFrameContainingOffset() stable. r=roc
# [20:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b8e1d4abf560 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 867530 - Make the current poison consumers use the new API. r=roc
# [20:49] * Ms2ger wonders if Waldo reviewed that
# [20:50] <Waldo> I skimmed it, didn't totally review it
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# [20:50] <Waldo> will probably do a style pass on it as a followup rev
# [20:50] <Waldo> at some point
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# [20:51] <Waldo> nice to see ehsan looking into formatting tools, maybe at some point we can actually be moderately consistent
# [20:51] <@ehsan> hehe
# [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a50d67075be - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 869529 - Fix LiveRangeAllocator loopWorkList handling. r=bhackett
# [20:51] <Waldo> also hopefully we can get rid of the stupid in the "Mozilla" rules, like bracing everything and your mother
# [20:51] <Ms2ger> Maybe we should use them to fix all the RootedObjects ehsan's been sneaking into Gecko
# [20:52] * Waldo notes he is serious but also likely trollish when he says that
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# [20:52] <@ehsan> Waldo: you're definitely allowed to be wrong!
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# [20:52] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: wdym?
# [20:52] <Waldo> ehsan: so are you!
# [20:52] <@ehsan> Waldo: I said it first :P
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> Waldo, we should get rid of the stupid SM rules, like forgetting braces ;)
# [20:52] <Waldo> just don't force it on everyone else :-P
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# [20:53] <simon> just getting started developing a protocol extension - can't find 'make-makefiles'
# [20:53] <Waldo> SM braces generally get required because syntax is fugly, which seems pretty good -- you use them when they're visually helpful, don't have noise when not
# [20:54] <Ms2ger> Waldo, also, the entire point of such tools is to force things on everyone else ;)
# [20:54] <khuey> simon: make-makefiles is dead, iirc
# [20:54] <tbsaunde> Waldo: one style and not forcing things on people is rather contradictory
# [20:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d3f27629c28 - Dan Gohman - Bug 869539 - Eliminate padding in x64 Operand and add missing const. r=sstangl
# [20:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74568f858c7c - Dan Gohman - Bug 869511 - Fix a copy+pasto in a comment. r=sstangl
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# [20:55] <simon> khuey: make -f client.mk is not picking up my Makefile.in from my extension, not sure why.
# [20:55] <Waldo> tbsaunde: I am not claiming my statements are fully consistent :-)
# [20:55] <Waldo> 'cause they're not
# [20:55] <mwu> RyanVM: do we care about the fixed-in-birch whiteboard anymore?
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# [20:55] <RyanVM> no
# [20:55] <mwu> great
# [20:56] <simon> khuey: i'm using a debian source tree - the .mozconfig in my obj dir has my extension in it
# [20:56] <jcranmer> Waldo: mailnews code often follows about three styles in the same file, not including the code that is supposed to be following a style but got borked by automatic-fix-all-style-issues-patch #N
# [20:56] <Waldo> yeah, that's taking an extra level of crazy beyond what I usually have to see :-)
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# [20:56] <abr> Walso: So, you've never been bitten by someone doing stupid-indent-tricks underneath an un-braced conditional statement? You can read code until your eyes bleed and miss why things are acting bonkers.
# [20:56] <simon> khuey: is there a replacement for make-makefiles?
# [20:56] <abr> s/Walso/Waldo/
# [20:57] <Waldo> abr: really, no -- I have never had issues with SpiderMonkey's consistently-applied style for bracing ifs and such
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# [20:58] <abr> Nice. Consider yourself lucky.
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# [20:58] <jlebar> bent: Can a ContentParent get deleted without ContentParent::ActorDestroy() being run?
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# [20:58] <Waldo> I've never heard complaints about it from SpiderMonkey developers
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# [20:58] <Waldo> this may be a matter of our bracing rules not being strictly one-statement-bodies-are-not-braced
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# [20:59] <bent> jlebar, it's refcounted... IPDL should hold a ref while it's active, but...
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# [20:59] <jlebar> bent: I'm trying to figure out how https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=868741 could happen
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# [21:00] <khuey> simon: ask gps ;-)
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# [21:00] <jlebar> bent: I can switch to a proper strong or weak ref there, but that doesn't really solve the problem, which is that I'm apparently not getting notified.
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# [21:02] <bent> jlebar, what is not getting notified?
# [21:02] <jlebar> bent: The ContentParent's ParticularProcessPriorityManager seems to live after the ContentParent dies.
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# [21:03] <nalexander> simon: if make-makefiles regenerates Makefiles from Makefile.ins, then you want $OBJDIR/config.status
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# [21:03] <nalexander> simon: that parses moz.build files and writes Makefiles and backend.mks
# [21:03] <bent> jlebar, it's refcounted too
# [21:04] <jlebar> bent: There's ParticularProcessPriorityManager::ShutDown() which should be called.
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# [21:04] <jlebar> as a result of ipc:content-shutdown
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# [21:05] <bent> hm
# [21:06] <jlebar> hm indeed
# [21:06] <bent> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/ProcessPriorityManager.cpp#511
# [21:06] <tn> jmaher, sorry, got a phone call
# [21:06] <jmaher> tn: no worries
# [21:07] <tn> jmaher, i was just wondering because we are missing out on a lot of testing in the bugs directory, and i saw that B2G recently enabled it, so i was wondering how far off we were on android
# [21:07] <bent> jlebar, "ipc:content-shutdown"?
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# [21:07] <jmaher> tn: you could enable it and push to try;)
# [21:07] <jlebar> bent: Observer topic, notified in ContentParent::ActorDestroy
# [21:07] <jmaher> tn: I suspect we could probably turn half of it on, maybe a couple days of toggling stuff on/off to get a stable set of tests
# [21:08] * jesup frequently gets annoyed by the "brace-everything" style. Especially when on my laptop with a smaller screen (both physically and in pixels vertically)
# [21:08] <tn> jmaher, ok, sure. i'll do it! wanted to see if anyone had any work in progress on that first.
# [21:08] <bent> jlebar, but ParticularProcessPriorityManager::Observe doesn't seem to look for that
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# [21:08] <jlebar> bent: indeed, but ProcessPriorityManager does.
# [21:08] <jlebar> bent: and calls ShutDown on the pppm
# [21:08] <jmaher> tn: feel free to send me a link to the try server run, I could help decipher stuff if needed
# [21:08] * bent is clearly lost
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# [21:09] <jlebar> bent: Start in ProcessPriorityManagerImpl::Init
# [21:09] <jlebar> bent: then ProcessPriorityManagerImpl::Observe
# [21:09] <Waldo> jesup: word
# [21:09] <jesup> Of course, I also adhere to the old non-slashed brace style when I have my druthers - slashed-but-always-needed seems like trying to have it both ways. ;-)
# [21:09] <jlebar> bent: Then ProcessPriorityManagerImpl::ObserveContentParentDestroyed
# [21:09] <bent> jlebar, got it
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# [21:10] <tn> jmaher, sure, thanks for the offer!
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# [21:13] <bent> jlebar, and i don't see you ever checking that from the time you get the Notify callback
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# [21:14] <bent> jlebar, are you sure mContentParent isn't just null?
# [21:14] <bent> jlebar, instead of dangling?
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# [21:15] <bent> jlebar, seems like you either need to null-check in Notify or somehow clear/cancel any wake locks that have a ref back to you
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# [21:16] <jlebar> bent: easy hypothesis to check
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# [21:16] <jlebar> bent: you're completely right
# [21:16] <jlebar> bent: thanks.
# [21:17] <jlebar> Crash Address 0x168
# [21:17] <jlebar> ^ in other words, null
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# [21:17] <jlebar> Can someone from sg un-protect https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=868741, please? We just determined it's not exploitable.
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# [21:19] <hub> how do I check out a different branch in mercurial, and switch to it in plac
# [21:19] <hub> I have no disk space to do yet another complete checkout
# [21:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cf0f7203cda - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 869056 - Added optimized baseline stubs for JSOP_FUNAPPLY with MagicValue(Arguments) as second arg. r=evilpie
# [21:20] <Ms2ger> hub, hg pull -u
# [21:20] <hub> Ms2ger: oh, this will work?
# [21:20] <hub> I get
# [21:20] <hub> not updating: crosses branches (merge branches or update --check to force update)
# [21:20] <dholbert> jlebar, done
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# [21:20] <jlebar> dholbert: thanks
# [21:21] <Ms2ger> hub, that's the nice thing about hg, it tells you exactly what to do :)
# [21:21] <hub> Ms2ger: expect it is fibbing.
# [21:21] <Ms2ger> hub, 'hg update --check' will switch to the other branch
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# [21:21] <hub> or hg out is lying
# [21:22] <Ms2ger> hub, what's hg out telling you?
# [21:22] <hub> after doing hg update --check
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# [21:23] <hub> a lot of things
# [21:23] <hub> instead of nothing
# [21:24] <Ms2ger> hub, try hg out -r .
# [21:24] <dholbert> I suspect hg out is telling the truth
# [21:24] <dholbert> hub, what are the two repos in question?
# [21:24] <dholbert> presumably you pulled inbound into a mozilla-central repo or something?
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# [21:26] <dholbert> IIRC "hg push" will push up to the remote repo the following things: every cset in your local repo that the remote repo doesn't have (though we have a hook to prevent multiple heads which might abort this in some cases)
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# [21:27] <dholbert> so if you pulled csets from two different trees into your local tree, then it's correct that "hg out" prints a bunch of stuff
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# [21:31] <sfink> documentted as "the parent of the working directory", which I've always found a little confusing
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# [22:00] <@ehsan> froydnj: \o/
# [22:01] <froydnj> ehsan: sadly, there is still more work to do :(
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# [22:02] <froydnj> but 17 instances of runreftests.py is kind of fun :)
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# [22:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03b869365923 - Chris Peterson - Bug 868673 - Fix -Wtype-limits warning in XPFE. r=Neil
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# [22:11] <@ehsan> froydnj: 17?
# [22:11] <@ehsan> is that how badly we use the CPU?
# [22:11] <seth> how long should an intermittent failure bug be left open without the intermittent failure occurring before its reasonable to WORKSFORME it?
# [22:12] <seth> given that closed bugs still show up in the starring list, i'm inclined to do this pretty fast (say after a month)
# [22:12] <seth> anyone disagree?
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# [22:16] <Waldo> froydnj: how do we handle HTTP reftests? do we start up a server per chunk, or do we multiplex on one (seems a bad idea), what?
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# [22:18] <froydnj> Waldo: we start a server per chunk
# [22:18] <Waldo> froydnj: how does the each-on-its-own-port thing work? is port just passed in on the command line, or something?
# [22:18] <Waldo> or is there any intelligence about trying multiple ports?
# [22:18] <hub> dholbert: ok, I see. thanks. at least it makes it clear. yes it is for two b2g branches...
# [22:19] <dholbert> hub, cool
# [22:19] <gaston> ehsan: so i finally made it to toronto, do you think i can come visit the mozilla office sometimes tmrw ?
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# [22:19] <froydnj> Waldo: the server intelligently tries up to 50 ports
# [22:20] <Waldo> nice
# [22:20] <Waldo> froydnj: how does it communicate the actually-used port back to the harness?
# [22:20] <Waldo> that was always the hangup for me, as far as making that intelligent -- not enough time to figure out a good solution
# [22:20] <@ehsan> gaston: absolutely!
# [22:20] <Waldo> given not particularly good IPC tools and such to do it
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# [22:22] <froydnj> Waldo: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/reftest/reftest.js#384
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# [22:23] <Waldo> froydnj: how does that get communicated to the proxy PAC URL in the profile's user.js?
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# [22:24] <froydnj> it looks like reftests does its own url management, so there's no need to deal with the user.js bits
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# [22:25] <Waldo> mm
# [22:25] <Waldo> too bad there's not sharing with mochitest, but oh well
# [22:25] <Waldo> too many test harnesses
# [22:25] <froydnj> indeed
# [22:25] <Waldo> better than the historical alternate problem!
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# [22:39] <qDot> Breaks on android and windows?
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# [22:49] <mayhemer> smaug: let me check
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# [22:50] <mayhemer> smaug: it's stored as nsHttpAtom, so I presume yes
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# [22:51] <mayhemer> smaug: however, for non-standard methods returned by the server it might return what the server has sent
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# [22:55] <@smaug> mayhemer: thanks
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# [23:04] <Yoric> mak: Any hope of a review?
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# [23:04] <mak> Yoric: long long queue
# [23:05] <Yoric> :/
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# [23:06] <mak> Yoric: working on it, but I don't want to make promises I can't resolve()
# [23:06] <Yoric> :)
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# [23:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2c5a5d03c49 - Bobby Holley - Bug 868637 - Simplify DOM Bindings JSON parsing. r=bz
# [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea66aac44f31 - Bobby Holley - Bug 868634 - Remove compartment entry in nsStructuredCloneContainer. r=bz
# [23:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0550d3d146cf - Bobby Holley - Bug 868635 - Make merging CC heuristics go through scx. r=mccr8
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# [23:26] <cpeterson> wesj: it looks like your bug 798358 broke mozilla-inbound's Android build
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# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/883e35db4839 - Jeff Walden - Bug 869238 - Silence various -Wtype-limits warnings in Casting.h when instantiated with types with various size relationships. r=froydnj
# [23:30] <WeirdAl> !seen limi
# [23:30] <firebot> limi was last seen 23 hours, 23 minutes and 50 seconds ago, saying 'nope, just remember that mconley said he was on it :)' in #ux.
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# [23:30] <Waldo> random note: |template<typename T, typename U, bool = sizeof(T) < sizeof(U)> struct S {};| won't compile with MSVC, but |template<typename T, typename U, bool = (sizeof(T) < sizeof(U))> struct S {};| will
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# [23:32] <philor> shall we play it with the tree open, or with the tree closed?
# [23:33] <reuben> Waldo: since when does MSVC compile XML?
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# [23:35] <khuey> so why did we remove the "click to star" thing from tbpl?
# [23:35] <KWierso|Home> khuey: you can still click them in the suggestions list when you click a test
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# [23:35] <KWierso|Home> apparently it was slow or something, so they cut it out of the popup
# [23:35] <philor> wesj: hello!
# [23:37] <KWierso|Home> more like goodbye, amirite?
# [23:37] <philor> khuey: is that the click to star you mean, the bug numbers in the comment popup?
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# [23:38] <@khuey> philor: yeah
# [23:38] <@khuey> KWierso++
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# [23:39] <Waldo> KWierso|Home: you say goodbye, I say hello
# [23:39] <KWierso|Home> khuey: though the star comments don't actually make their way into the bugs until you then click "Add a comment" and submit that
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# [23:39] <philor> khuey: on the bright side, when you star one of those things with thirty suggestions, jQuery no longer eats your computer
# [23:39] <KWierso|Home> Waldo: any ways the trees close, doesn't really matter to me
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# [23:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5d3816c2fa9 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out f2ac70bee1e0 (bug 798358) until it tells us what jsonobj it is talking about
# [23:42] <philor> and as punishment for the way that everyone just ignored that Android build bustage for 90 minutes, we're going to sit closed until we have a full set of Android builds and tests
# [23:42] <abr> philor: Sorry, my fault. Whenever I get a patch just about ready to check in, it magically makes the tree catch on fire.
# [23:43] <philor> abr: could be worse, there's certain other people I could name for whom it happens *after* they push instead of before ;)
# [23:43] <abr> Ha!
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# [23:59] <philor> oh, goodie, there's a second layer of bustage above Waldo's backout
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