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  1. # Session Start: Wed May 08 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <philor> bjacob: is that you?
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  7. # [00:00] <bjacob> looking
  8. # [00:00] <philor> perhaps you affecting the tree when you didn't mean to?
  9. # [00:01] <philor> or perhaps failing to clobber when you needed to
  10. # [00:01] <bjacob> philor: where is my bustage?
  11. # [00:01] <philor> or, of course, maybe you just like to see the world burn :)
  12. # [00:01] <philor> bjacob: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=da02b1166a5c is an easy place to see it
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  14. # [00:02] <philor> since I starred the ones below as though they were because of Waldo's bustage
  15. # [00:02] <bjacob> hm
  16. # [00:02] <reuben> sometimes if I click on an orange in tbpl it sends me straight to the shortlog, is that known?
  17. # [00:02] <philor> reuben: the backout that will fix it is r?=bz
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  20. # [00:03] <philor> bug 868834
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  22. # [00:03] <reuben> cool
  23. # [00:03] <bjacob> philor: oh, my --disable-icf patch could very well require a clobber
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  25. # [00:04] <bjacob> philor: that theory fits well too with this only affecting debug builds
  26. # [00:04] <philor> shit, late going back to work
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  28. # [00:04] <bjacob> philor: just get a full time job @ moz
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  30. # [00:05] <bjacob> RyanVM|afk: philor|away: ^^ ^ i suggest clobber
  31. # [00:05] <bjacob> for the mac debug crashes
  32. # [00:06] <Waldo> jcranmer: I've been trying to find a use case for sequentially-consistent memory ordering and have thus far failed -- any chance you managed to find one while doing atomics research?
  33. # [00:07] <Waldo> a clear, simple use case, that is
  34. # [00:07] <Waldo> easy to find samples for all this, of no use whatsoever in knowing when to use each mode, at least :-)
  35. # [00:07] <tbsaunde> bjacob: you can just clobber yourself
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  38. # [00:09] <mwu> Waldo: sequentially consistent from whose point of view?
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  41. # [00:09] <jcranmer> Waldo: as opposed to what?
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  45. # [00:10] <Waldo> mwu: as in, from the point of view of every CPU/core, modifications to an atomic object happen in exactly one global ordering
  46. # [00:11] <jcranmer> Waldo: sequentially-consistet ought to be the default thought model for atomics, since it is simple to reason about compared to others
  47. # [00:11] <Waldo> which is probably gibberish unless you've investigated this as much as I have the last couple days :-)
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  49. # [00:11] <jcranmer> an algorithm that relies on atomic operatoins necessarily works for sequentually-consistent code
  50. # [00:11] <mwu> I assumed most multicpus maintain that illusion
  51. # [00:11] <mwu> multi core systems
  52. # [00:11] <bjacob> tbsaunde: thanks, i didn't know. found it.
  53. # [00:11] <jcranmer> it might not work for release-acquire/relaxed memory models
  54. # [00:11] <Waldo> jcranmer: yeah -- I've just got examples of when you'd use relaxed and release-acquire, and it seems good to have an example for sequentially-consistent for completeness, and not just for be-safest-ness
  55. # [00:12] <jcranmer> the standard lock-free queue might need seq-cst
  56. # [00:12] <Waldo> mwu: x86 tends to; some architectures don't
  57. # [00:12] <jcranmer> but I'd have to stare at the algorithm to figure out
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  59. # [00:12] <jcranmer> mwu: it's complicated
  60. # [00:12] <Waldo> mwu: and not requiring sequentially-consistent can speed algorithms up, sometimes
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  62. # [00:12] <Waldo> mwu: I'll point you at the patch and my comments, when I post them :-)
  63. # [00:13] <jcranmer> atomic operations on a *single* object have a global order *for that object*
  64. # [00:13] <sfink> it's nice to not have to flush your cache all the way through on every write
  65. # [00:13] <mwu> though I always stick in barriers whenever needed assuming there's some cpu out there to screw me over
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  67. # [00:13] <jcranmer> memory ordering is about the relations on global order between all objects
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  70. # [00:14] <jcranmer> cache coherency + atomic store is sufficient to guarantee a global order
  71. # [00:14] <jcranmer> for an object
  72. # [00:15] <jcranmer> but the problem is that all processors lets their load/store buffers complete out-of-order
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  75. # [00:16] <jcranmer> x86 follows TSO, which basically amounts to "everything completes in order, but reads can finish before an earlier write does"
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  77. # [00:16] <jcranmer> ARM follows the relaxed memory model, which means everything can complete in any order it wants to
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  79. # [00:17] <mwu> sounds about right according to what I remember
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  82. # [00:18] <mwu> too bad I never had a chance to work on drivers on arm
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  99. # [00:23] <Waldo> for extra fun, lament that you never had a chance to work on drivers on Alpha
  100. # [00:24] <philor> bjacob: you missed, that was the hidden (and still broken) SpiderMonkey build you clobbered, but if a clobber with the clobberer does fix it, you need to push a patch that touches the /CLOBBER file so it doesn't break every other tree when it gets merged around
  101. # [00:24] * mwu always wanted an alpha machine
  102. # [00:24] <jcranmer> Alpha's memory model is along the lines of "go fuck yourself"
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  104. # [00:26] <tbsaunde> Waldo: linux and gcc still support it afaik
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  106. # [00:26] <Waldo> tbsaunde: sure; just how correct their atomic code is may be an open question, tho
  107. # [00:27] <Waldo> the Linux code *does* include stuff to make Alpha work, in theory
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  109. # [00:27] <Waldo> in practice it may well be buggy, given ~nobody can test it
  110. # [00:27] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I believe cmu cclub has a working alpha box running linux, but that's hardly enough to test for races
  111. # [00:28] <tbsaunde> so I'm guess the code mostly sort of works in practice
  112. # [00:28] <philor> jdm: how on earth did you break universal builds with that patch?
  113. # [00:28] <jdm> philor: the xpcshell one?
  114. # [00:28] <jdm> time to find out
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  117. # [00:30] <philor> jdm: yeah, "files differ: obj-firefox/i386/dist/test-package-stage/xpcshell/automation.py, obj-firefox/x86_64/dist/test-package-stage/xpcshell/automation.py" even though... maybe we fail to realize we need to rebuild one of them?
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  119. # [00:30] <jdm> mmm, that's fun
  120. # [00:31] <jdm> probably something to do with the packaging changes ted wanted
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  122. # [00:31] <jdm> testing/xpcshell/Makefile.in
  123. # [00:31] <philor> sonofa
  124. # [00:31] <@ted> oh, yeah
  125. # [00:31] <@ted> so uh
  126. # [00:31] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/macosx/universal/flight.mk#39
  127. # [00:31] <@ted> automation.py FTL again
  128. # [00:32] * jcranmer has a not-so-secret plan to trash the xpcshell master manifest
  129. # [00:32] <@ted> saw that
  130. # [00:32] <@ted> i have no opinion on the matter
  131. # [00:32] <philor> while you are backing yourself out so we can reopen today, could you back bjacob out so he can reland with /CLOBBER if that's really all the busted he is? it's not just Mac, so we're going to be busted for all debug tests for a big swath
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  134. # [00:33] <philor> jcranmer: I saw it, but I didn't see your plan for the things that are using conditions in the master manifest
  135. # [00:33] <jdm> I'm tied up running mochitests and can't reopen firefox right now
  136. # [00:33] <jdm> someone else is going to have to back me out
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  139. # [00:33] <bjacob> philor: going offline now, sorry. feel free to back me out
  140. # [00:33] <philor> k, closed is actually the best state for me anyway
  141. # [00:33] <jcranmer> philor: conditionals in moz.build files
  142. # [00:34] <@ehsan> philor: I'll happily back jdm out!
  143. # [00:34] <jcranmer> which actually appears to work fairly well
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  147. # [00:35] <@ehsan> jdm: welcome back to the Toronto office!
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  150. # [00:35] <jdm> ehsan: just means I can take revenge in person now :)
  151. # [00:35] <philor> ehsan: bjacob too please, there's a clobber that crashed in precompile
  152. # [00:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a33030103ec4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset da02b1166a5c (bug 597064) because of mochitest failures on a CLOSED TREE
  153. # [00:35] <@ehsan> oh
  154. # [00:35] <@ehsan> jdm: you wish ;)
  155. # [00:36] <@ehsan> philor: which one of his pushes?
  156. # [00:36] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11a3ee38afff "for debug slaughter"
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  158. # [00:36] <philor> the mochitests are actually his, jdm was only responsible for opt Mac build bustage
  159. # [00:37] <@ehsan> oh
  160. # [00:37] <@ehsan> sorry
  161. # [00:37] <@ehsan> I'll just say for various types of bustage
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  163. # [00:37] <philor> don't be sorry, he probably would have broken them if he had a chance
  164. # [00:38] <philor> you land that late in the day, you only get to break the few remaining unbroken things
  165. # [00:38] <@ehsan> lol
  166. # [00:38] <@ehsan> true
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  168. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe3fc1746cae - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 11a3ee38afff (bug 853494) for various types of bustage on a CLOSED TREE
  169. # [00:39] <@ehsan> alright
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  172. # [00:40] <philor> thanks!
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  197. # [00:54] <cpeterson> looks like inbound is taking heavy fire.
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  200. # [00:58] <philor> same thing we do every weekday, Pinky
  201. # [00:59] <froydnj> tbsaunde: seeing as how alpha was linux's foray into smp and how it defines how the kernel's atomics work, I'd say it's a fair shot that everything works just fine on alpha
  202. # [00:59] * froydnj wishes he had time to make his alpha box go
  203. # [00:59] <sfink> philor++
  204. # [00:59] <sfink> brought back memories
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  209. # [01:00] * Waldo hopes nobody else is pondering what he's pondering
  210. # [01:01] <Waldo> huh, atomic<signed type> bowed to reality and mandated twos-complement and fully-defined behavior, including for overflows
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  212. # [01:01] <Waldo> wonder if signed types will ever do likewise
  213. # [01:02] <froydnj> bet those ones-complement hardware developers are hopping mad
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  215. # [01:02] <jcranmer> I don't think there are any multiprocessor ones-complement hardware
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  221. # [01:05] <jcranmer> Waldo: actually, not quite
  222. # [01:06] <jcranmer> technically, the pre-increment is fetch_add(a) + 1
  223. # [01:06] <Waldo> jcranmer: oh, it's different for non-fetch_<key> ops?
  224. # [01:06] <Waldo> oh
  225. # [01:06] <jcranmer> that addition could be undefined :-P
  226. # [01:06] <Waldo> fetch_add() is okay
  227. # [01:06] <Waldo> fetch_add() + n is not
  228. # [01:06] <Waldo> sign
  229. # [01:06] <Waldo> s/n/h/
  230. # [01:06] <Waldo> lurvely
  231. # [01:07] <jcranmer> I would not be surprised if they decided to cave in and make signed arithmetic impl-defined if not required 2's complement
  232. # [01:07] <Waldo> signed arithmetic *is* implementation-defined, I believe
  233. # [01:07] <Waldo> already
  234. # [01:07] <mbrubeck> sicking: If you want to assign me to B2G bugs, you have to convince someone to finally send me a B2G device. ;)
  235. # [01:08] <jcranmer> nope, undefined
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  237. # [01:08] <mbrubeck> (requested one through the dogfooding program last year and never heard back; still waiting to hear if/when my Geeksphone request will ship)
  238. # [01:08] <philor> so, who wants to write me a test (something run in make check) which deletes every single file in tmpdir?
  239. # [01:09] <Waldo> hmm, yeah, you're right
  240. # [01:09] <Waldo> memory failing
  241. # [01:09] <Waldo> perhaps I'm thinking with a relaxed memory model
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  251. # [01:18] <jcranmer> philor: interestingly enough, eliminating the master xpcshell and ignoring its disabling of everything still seems to give me a very green try run
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  254. # [01:21] <philor> jcranmer: interesting, I wouldn't really expect the maemo crashreporter tests to go all that well
  255. # [01:21] <philor> are you actually running any tests, or green with zero?
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  257. # [01:22] <jcranmer> 1630±20
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  259. # [01:22] <jcranmer> b2g and android use different manifests for the moment
  260. # [01:22] <jcranmer> but no one is orange or red
  261. # [01:23] <mbrubeck> thanks for chiming in, drs
  262. # [01:25] <sicking> mbrubeck: ugh, i'll get on it. That's terrible
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  264. # [01:26] <mbrubeck> sicking: Just checked in service-now and my Geeksphone request is awaiting approval from three dev-evang people
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  295. # [01:48] <vlad> anyone know why I'm getting this error on windows/osx tryserver builds: nsKeygenHandler.cpp:727:5: error: 'free' is not a member of 'nsCRT' ?
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  309. # [01:55] <mbrubeck> vlad: No idea
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  311. # [01:55] <mbrubeck> Your parent changeset was green on inbound, and the changesets you pushed don't look suspicious
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  313. # [01:55] <mbrubeck> could be something that went wrong with the build slave, or it could be something you pushed on top of that is only broken in clobber builds
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  316. # [01:56] <vlad> well, I had this happen with the last 3 times I pushed this patch
  317. # [01:56] <vlad> against different inbounds
  318. # [01:56] <vlad> only thing I can think of is that now, jsfriendapi.h #includes <algorithm>
  319. # [01:56] <mbrubeck> oh, then I blame you. :P
  320. # [01:56] <vlad> and so that could be trickling down, but I have no clue how that could cause this
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  322. # [01:57] <tbsaunde> colah: /win 60
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  330. # [02:04] <gw280> is there an ETA on inbound opening again?
  331. # [02:04] <KWierso|Home> after now, before the heat death of the universe?
  332. # [02:04] <gw280> awesome
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  334. # [02:05] <dholbert> vlad, I can reproduce the build error locally, with your patch applied, FWIW
  335. # [02:05] <bsmith> I am looking for some example code in Chrome JS that uses XHR and retrieves the nsresult error code returned from send().
  336. # [02:05] <bsmith> Any pointers?
  337. # [02:05] <dholbert> vlad, (on Ubuntu)
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  339. # [02:05] <vlad> dholbert: ugh
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  343. # [02:09] <mbrubeck> gw280: I think if ehsan's push goes green, then we can reopen
  344. # [02:10] <mbrubeck> I'd check back in an hour or so.
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  346. # [02:10] <gw280> mbrubeck: awesome
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  348. # [02:11] <philor> didn't break android over the course of the 20 pushes when we didn't build it, which is nice
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  354. # [02:14] <daleharvey> central isnt building for me - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2383251 I havent built in ages and its fine for other people so assuming I need to upgrade something?
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  359. # [02:16] <vlad> for the curious, thanks to dholbert, the issue is that <cstdlib> does #undef free, which breaks our #define free moz_free
  360. # [02:18] <mbrubeck> awesome
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  364. # [02:22] <mbrubeck> daleharvey: Maybe clang? What version do you have?
  365. # [02:22] <daleharvey> Apple clang version 3.1 (tags/Apple/clang-318.0.58) (based on LLVM 3.1svn)]
  366. # [02:23] <mbrubeck> I think python/mozboot/bin/bootstrap.py can check the version and install a newer one if needed.
  367. # [02:23] <mbrubeck> daleharvey: Looks like we require 4.0 now: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/python/mozboot/mozboot/osx.py#32
  368. # [02:23] <daleharvey> suweet, cheers
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  370. # [02:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f2d0107e85ec - George Wright - Bug 848490 - [SkiaGL] Handle canvas elements larger than the maximum GPU texture size r=snorp
  371. # [02:23] <reuben> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2383265
  372. # [02:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6904473984e - George Wright - Bug 736276 - Rename ScaledFontFreeType to ScaledFontCairo, and use Skia's API to create an SkTypeface from a cairo_scaled_font_t r=jrmuizel
  373. # [02:24] <reuben> daleharvey: ^ people were running into that earlier
  374. # [02:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f9a17848125a - George Wright - Bug 869178 - se SUkCanvas::drawBitmapRect instead of a bitmap SkShader; it's slightly faster r=snorp
  375. # [02:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/84bdd96375ba - George Wright - Bug 736276 - Add a new SkFontHost that takes a cairo_scaled_font_t r=karl
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  395. # [02:38] <@dolske> vlad: #undef free?! why does windows hate freedom? :P
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  397. # [02:39] <mbrubeck> dolske++
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  406. # [02:46] <philor> hmm, I wonder where all my Ubuntu32 debug results are going
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  420. # [03:01] <KWierso|Home> philor: to the cloud?
  421. # [03:02] <philor> KWierso|Home: yeah, stuck in the cloud
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  440. # [03:09] <jimm> philor: can we open inbound?
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  442. # [03:10] <philor> jimm: nope
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  444. # [03:10] <jimm> ahh. looks pretty green to me.
  445. # [03:10] <philor> jimm: note the Ubuntu (32) debug results
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  447. # [03:10] <philor> the ones that look like " "
  448. # [03:11] <philor> so not only might we have broken some linux32 debug test, but if we reopen and push the pent-up gotta-get-rid-of-it 30 pushes, we may or may not get the results from them at 3am, or Thursday
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  453. # [03:17] <jimm> I think I'll wait till the am then. :)
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  462. # [03:22] <RyanVM|afk> philor: so about that merge I wanted to do tonight....
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  465. # [03:24] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, I really should have every tree closed
  466. # [03:24] <philor> or, the other possibility, this is actually our new reality, and most of the time we don't see results for 60-70 minutes after a (aws) job finishes
  467. # [03:24] <seth> are nsITimers safe to use off the main thread?
  468. # [03:25] <jcranmer> yes
  469. # [03:25] <seth> jcranmer: super
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  472. # [03:27] <Waldo> jcranmer: any chance you could quickly explain why Barrier<ReleaseAcquire>::afterLoad() performs a synchronize? I get why one is needed for beforeStore(), but I don't quite see it in the afteLoad() case
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  475. # [03:29] <jcranmer> read/read reorders
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  482. # [03:38] <jld> Is there any reason I wouldn't be able to have bug 809571 uplifted to b2g18 in support of bug 867721? (firebot, go!)
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  484. # [03:39] <Waldo> jcranmer: why wouldn't it perform that before the load? or does it matter which order it happens in?
  485. # [03:39] <jld> ...or not. Bug 809571 is removing libunwind, and bug 867721 is getting profiling with native stacks on b2g nightlies (many of which are b2g18).
  486. # [03:39] <jcranmer> Waldo: suppose I read an atomic release/acquire mode
  487. # [03:39] <Waldo> jcranmer: that is, why not synchronize in beforeLoad() rather than in afterLoad()?
  488. # [03:40] <jcranmer> the guarantee I need is that everything I read after the atomic in the source code has to be done after the read finished
  489. # [03:40] <jcranmer> the "read" part of ReleaseAcquire is very much like acquiring a lock
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  495. # [03:41] <jcranmer> you wouldn't want your code to start reading protected data before it acquires a lock, right?
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  501. # [03:44] <jcranmer> my original design cribbed the code from libstdc++ 4.4
  502. # [03:45] <Waldo> I'm making pretty good progress through this, just trying to be very very very careful about it
  503. # [03:46] <jcranmer> I originally settled on not falling back to weaker consistency models if only intrinsics were present
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  506. # [03:46] <jcranmer> but apparently default clang on OS X has a broken <atomic> header
  507. # [03:46] <jcranmer> or something
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  517. # [04:00] <RyanVM> philor: inbound looks 'pretty "green" now
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  520. # [04:04] <RyanVM> oh boy, bustage on m-c and the person who pushed it is nowhere to be found
  521. # [04:04] <RyanVM> wheee
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  526. # [04:05] <RyanVM> that's the one philor saw coming, right?
  527. # [04:06] <aja> $5
  528. # [04:06] <KWierso|Home> I never took that bet
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  530. # [04:06] <mwu> RyanVM: from gw280 ?
  531. # [04:06] * aja neither
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  533. # [04:06] <RyanVM> mwu: yep
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  540. # [04:07] <RyanVM> and since this is m-c, we show no mercy and just do the entire push
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  542. # [04:07] <mwu> doitdoitdoitdoitdoit
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  544. # [04:08] <aja> w/ or w/o merge?
  545. # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b25afb305360 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 4 changesets (bug 869178, bug 848490, bug 736276) for reftest crashes.
  546. # [04:09] <aja> n/m :)
  547. # [04:10] <RyanVM> added 167 changesets with 766 changes to 545 files (+1 heads)
  548. # [04:10] <RyanVM> oh christ
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  550. # [04:11] <catlee-away> erm
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  552. # [04:11] <RyanVM> the joys of not doing a merge all day...
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  565. # [04:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/229cd16b078a - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 868523 - snapped synced tabs entry doesnt hide if sync is not enabled.r=jimm
  566. # [04:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e240d2c2ce8 - Joe Drew - Bug 869125 - Use the preallocated first frame in the PNG and GIF decoders when possible so we don't flash unnecessarily. r=seth
  567. # [04:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3dd3245de357 - Wes Kocher - Bug 869687 - Uplift Add-on SDK integration branch to Firefox
  568. # [04:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a6829c755b7 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 868102. Don't swallow exceptions from the XPCOM/XPConnect goop when setting up a js-implemented webidl object. r=mccr8
  569. # [04:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e00018528cd - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 869311. More rooting in dom/bindings and content/base. r=smaug
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  572. # [04:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/439bae7c9809 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 869750 - Remove unused variables from HyperTextAccessible.cpp. r=surkov
  573. # [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b389768f788 - Tetsuharu OHZEKI - Bug 868936 - Use strict equality operator in JSDOMParser.js. r=bnicholson
  574. # [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ce9acf7e78f - aceman - Bug 533315 - Show the stack trace of 'e' in do_thow(e) if 'e' is already an exception object. r=ted
  575. # [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff30118a4799 - JosiahOne - Bug 868432 - Animate scrolling when Home/End button is pressed. r=roc
  576. # [04:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba8cfb0179f1 - Dave Vasilevsky - Bug 862562 - Fix mozboot on 10.6. r=gps
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  578. # [04:42] <heycam> are typed arrays guaranteed to store values in little endian?
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  581. # [04:46] <Waldo> heycam: per spec there is no guarantee whatsoever
  582. # [04:46] <heycam> Waldo, hmm. no guarantee about how values are stored at all?
  583. # [04:46] <Waldo> heycam: not endianness-wise, no
  584. # [04:46] <heycam> Waldo, or could I validly check for little endian or big endian and nothing else crazy?
  585. # [04:47] <Waldo> heycam: you could basically check; the problem is there are some big-endian platforms that'll matter (Wii U being the most prominent), so you kind of have to check, and hope you don't write any BE bugs
  586. # [04:47] <Waldo> nobody's much happy about this, of course
  587. # [04:47] <Waldo> may be too late to do anything about it
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  589. # [04:48] <heycam> Waldo, ok. do you know if endianness applies to storing floats? or is there a universal order for storing the bytes that make one up?
  590. # [04:48] <Waldo> heycam: you are an evil, evil person
  591. # [04:48] <Waldo> ;-)
  592. # [04:48] <heycam> :)
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  594. # [04:49] <abr> heycam -- The thing you might run into is middle-endian 32-bit values on an ARM if things end up written into a location that is not 32-bit aligned.
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  596. # [04:49] <heycam> middle-endian … -_-
  597. # [04:49] <Waldo> heycam: I think generally it's little-endian like the uint32_t punned bits of the float32, or uint64_t for float64
  598. # [04:49] <abr> (I'm talking in general here; I have now specific knowledge about the exact case you're looking at)
  599. # [04:49] <abr> s/now/no/
  600. # [04:49] <Waldo> abr: typed arrays by construction prohibit unaligned float-writes and float-reads
  601. # [04:49] <Waldo> at least they got that right :-)
  602. # [04:49] <heycam> ok so here's what I actually want to do
  603. # [04:50] <heycam> take a double, store it in a typed array, read out the bits and verify that they're correct
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  605. # [04:50] <heycam> there's no uint64 typed array type
  606. # [04:50] <heycam> so I at least have to get it in two chunks of 32 bits
  607. # [04:51] <heycam> do I need to check both AB and BA as my two 32 bit integers?
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  611. # [04:52] <Waldo> I think so, yes, to be completely correct everywhere always
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  614. # [04:53] <heycam> Waldo, actually it won't be AB and BA, but rather ABCD EFGH and HGFE DCBA, as bytes, right?
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  617. # [04:54] * heycam wrote http://mcc.id.au/2013/ieee754.html to play around yesterday
  618. # [04:54] <Waldo> heycam: yes
  619. # [04:54] <heycam> (although I thought I remembered someone else writing something like that a couple of years ago.. maybe dherman… but I couldn't find it)
  620. # [04:54] <heycam> Waldo, cool
  621. # [04:54] <heycam> thanks
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  623. # [04:55] <Waldo> np
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  626. # [04:58] <abr> heycam: Cool toy. I didn't realize that you could end up with deviations as large as .003 in conversion. Try, e.g., 65535.128 as your input…
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  628. # [04:59] <gw280> mwu: I'm here
  629. # [05:00] <mwu> gw280: too late
  630. # [05:00] <gw280> yeah I see we got crashes
  631. # [05:00] <gw280> weird, because we passed try
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  633. # [05:01] <heycam> abr, bigger deviation if you stick a "e10" on the end :)
  634. # [05:02] <abr> Okay, yeah, I guess the point is off by three in the 8th digit is pretty big.
  635. # [05:02] <heycam> yeah
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  693. # [06:04] <philor> KWierso|Home: sort of
  694. # [06:04] <KWierso|Home> philor: any chance you recognize that m3 orange on my push? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=3dd3245de357
  695. # [06:05] <philor> KWierso|Home: you mean the bustage abr landed as soon as the tree opened?
  696. # [06:05] <KWierso|Home> philor: that'd be the one
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  767. # [07:13] <philor> this must have been fun once upon a time, right?
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  816. # [07:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8049e4af4809 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 866579. Don't bother adding an arena-allocated DisplayItemClip to mDisplayItemClipsToDestroy if its destructor isn't going to do anything interesting.
  817. # [07:55] <firebot> r=mattwoodrow
  818. # [07:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/243a19f75873 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 863224. DOMMediaStream should release its internal MediaStream and listener during Unlink to ensure that events running between Unlink and the destruction of the
  819. # [07:55] <firebot> DOMMediaStream don't see the dying object. r=jesup
  820. # [07:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9737a4136cf - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 868406. Shut down MediaStreamGraph's thread. r=jesup
  821. # [07:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/67d21aabfb75 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 866514. Part 1: Add DOMMediaStream::OnTracksAvailableCallback. r=jesup
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  826. # [08:01] <sicking> mbrubeck: ping
  827. # [08:02] <hsivonen> jlebar|sleep: pong
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  831. # [08:06] <KWierso|Home> gps: is that your broken build?
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  834. # [08:08] <gcp> was that directed at me instead?
  835. # [08:08] <KWierso|Home> gcp: yeah
  836. # [08:08] <gcp> I'm pretty sure I didn't break it.
  837. # [08:08] <KWierso|Home> gps: unping
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  839. # [08:08] <gcp> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=db74700bca2d
  840. # [08:09] <KWierso|Home> gcp: need clobber maybe?
  841. # [08:09] <gcp> nope
  842. # [08:09] <gcp> this smells like infra
  843. # [08:09] <gcp> i.e. it's make that crashed
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  848. # [08:12] <philor> there, I got it
  849. # [08:12] <gcp> interesting comment
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  875. # [08:40] <tbsaunde> l\\\\\\\\\\\/win 60
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  879. # [08:44] <jandem> I've a patch that causes a windows pgo bug… do we have visual studio pro available?
  880. # [08:45] <jandem> or VM images maybe?
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  938. # [09:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92a5a4a9b76b - Hannes Verschore - Bug 864468: IonMonkey: Skip argument type checks when type is known to match, r=jandem
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  943. # [10:00] <Gijs> Why does mozilla-build ship mercurial 1.9.1, and what is the 'right' way of upgrading to something recent?
  944. # [10:01] <Gijs> (I'm trying to upgrade mostly because glog is crippled)
  945. # [10:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e698d3534b96 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Backed out changeset 4b3a3f40730f (Bug 863290) for Android mochi-4 orange.
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  947. # [10:05] <edmorley> Gijs: I think the latest mozilla-build ships 2.5.4 fwiw
  948. # [10:05] <Gijs> I downloaded m-b last week or the week before...
  949. # [10:05] <edmorley> 2.5.* at least anyway
  950. # [10:05] <Gijs> 1.6.1, right?
  951. # [10:06] <edmorley> Gijs: ah, they've landed the update, but not repackaged (http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/rev/94feb0a3c21a)
  952. # [10:06] <Gijs> :(
  953. # [10:07] <edmorley> Gijs: I'd just install separately and add to the front of the path
  954. # [10:07] <Gijs> mmk
  955. # [10:08] <edmorley> I believe you have to add it to the front of the .profile path, not the windows one, since the batch file that initialises msys adds it's own directories as a prefix to the windows path
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  961. # [10:12] <kk1fff> can a javascript-implemented service be used in a thread that is not main thread?
  962. # [10:12] <gcp> no, needs proxies
  963. # [10:13] <kk1fff> gcp: a piece of c++ code to dispatch the usage of javascript to main thread?
  964. # [10:14] <gcp> yeah
  965. # [10:14] <kk1fff> gcp: I see, thanks.
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  990. # [10:51] <jandem> is it possible to do a windows PGO build using mach?
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  1014. # [11:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/069c966819d6 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 865028 - Fuse ParallelDo and ForkJoin r=shu
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  1017. # [11:20] <Optimizer> jandem: iirc its a mozconfig options thingy
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  1019. # [11:23] <edmorley> this will be a fun newsgroup thread! :-) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-05-07#Should_we_switch_from_hg_to_git.3F
  1020. # [11:24] * nigelb gets the popcorn
  1021. # [11:25] <ewong> I don't see any newsgroup thread on that..
  1022. # [11:25] <edmorley> "The next step here is to take this discussion to the newsgroups to get feedback..."
  1023. # [11:25] <edmorley> future tense :-)
  1024. # [11:25] <ewong> Oh.. I missed that line
  1025. # [11:26] <KWierso|Home> brace yourselves, the dvcs wars are coming
  1026. # [11:26] <ewong> oh.. I haven't read that part yet...
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  1028. # [11:26] <ewong> forget DVCS.. let's just use |cp| or |tar|
  1029. # [11:26] <nigelb> KWierso|Home: that needs a mozilla meme
  1030. # [11:26] * @smaug would probably use git the same way he uses hg, which is almost the same way he used cvs :)
  1031. # [11:26] * nigelb can't work without git branch anymore.
  1032. # [11:27] * KWierso|Home would like m-c to switch to git so SDK and firefox stuff can all just get along
  1033. # [11:27] <KWierso|Home> as a submodule, even :)
  1034. # [11:27] <ewong> how is it 'clear' that "the version control system of choice for open source development these days is git"?
  1035. # [11:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/898b2c5eaa5d - Alexander Surkov - Bug 865997 - Don't prune complex subtrees for roles usually having no children, r=tbsaunde
  1036. # [11:29] <@smaug> it is worrisome that if git sucks on Windows, even fewer devs would use Windows
  1037. # [11:29] <nigelb> That is true.
  1038. # [11:29] <nigelb> This is the one reason I have not minded hg.
  1039. # [11:29] <KWierso|Home> works fine for my usage on windows, fwiw
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  1042. # [11:32] <edmorley> I must admit, even though I've been grumpy about git in the past, I had to do an interactive rebase the other day and it was pretty slick
  1043. # [11:32] <edmorley> beats the mq qpush qpop dance
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  1045. # [11:36] <ewong> I've only done git branch and push, pull.. just as I've done hg push, hg pull..
  1046. # [11:37] <nigelb> ewong: git rebase is nice.
  1047. # [11:37] <nigelb> weird
  1048. # [11:38] <nigelb> but nice.
  1049. # [11:38] <KWierso|Home> nigelb: s/rebase/*/
  1050. # [11:38] <KWierso|Home> :P
  1051. # [11:38] <ewong> I haven't even done hg rebase.. so git rebase is just as cryptic
  1052. # [11:38] <nigelb> I don't think hg has something equivalent.
  1053. # [11:39] <ewong> why can't we just have ONE (D)VCS (except svn) and just use that for every project in MoCo?
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  1055. # [11:39] <KWierso|Home> because that would just be bazaar
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  1057. # [11:40] <nigelb> haha
  1058. # [11:40] * ewong sighs.
  1059. # [11:40] <KWierso|Home> oh god, dvcs puns. I'm up too late...
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  1062. # [11:43] <ewong> KWierso|Home: go to sleep. Do not pass go. ;)
  1063. # [11:44] <ewong> s/;)/;P/
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  1077. # [12:04] <RattyAway> ! seen bas.schouten
  1078. # [12:04] <KWierso|Home> !seen bas
  1079. # [12:04] <firebot> bas was last seen 15 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying 'bbondy: Landed on inbound.' in #planning.
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  1081. # [12:05] <RattyAway> is "Bas" Bas Schouten?
  1082. # [12:05] <KWierso|Home> almost positive
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  1085. # [12:09] <Gijs> KWierso|Home: oh, btw, sorry for that jetpack mach test filter dupe. :)
  1086. # [12:09] <Gijs> I did search!
  1087. # [12:09] <Gijs> Just didn't find it. :\
  1088. # [12:09] <KWierso|Home> Gijs: it's all good. the old bug didn't have the word "filter" in it
  1089. # [12:09] <Gijs> Right :)
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  1091. # [12:12] <KWierso|Home> Gijs: if you want to apply the patch in there and see if it works for you, that'd be good feedback. I was having trouble getting it to work in some cases.
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  1115. # [12:35] * KWierso|Home wonders why the tree is feeling so blue...
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  1117. # [12:36] <AutomatedTester> KWierso|Home: my try push is looking very christmas-y on desktop from last night
  1118. # [12:36] <AutomatedTester> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c144d44146c4
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  1122. # [12:38] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: ^
  1123. # [12:38] <AutomatedTester> edmorley: is the infra "feeling so blue" to quote KWierso|Home ?
  1124. # [12:38] <KWierso|Home> network or infra?
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  1126. # [12:38] <edmorley> KWierso|Home: I got disconnected, didn't see message, one sec I'll look on logbot
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  1128. # [12:39] <AutomatedTester> edmorley: related, has the infra been a little up and down for the last 12 hours?
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  1130. # [12:39] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: lots and lots of restarted jobs in the last few pushes
  1131. # [12:39] <edmorley> AutomatedTester: it's been a bit sketchy the last few hours at least
  1132. # [12:40] <edmorley> AutomatedTester: though that try push looks busted, was the qparent green?
  1133. # [12:40] <AutomatedTester> edmorley: "yes", honestly dont know
  1134. # [12:40] <AutomatedTester> i'll redo my try for desktop
  1135. # [12:40] <AutomatedTester> mobile is happy
  1136. # [12:40] <edmorley> AutomatedTester: the qparent was busted fwiw https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=883e35db4839
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  1138. # [12:41] <AutomatedTester> hurray...
  1139. # [12:41] <AutomatedTester> wasnt me... this time
  1140. # [12:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e28bac451f88 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 869479 - GC: Fix rooting hazards in jsapi tests r=terrence
  1141. # [12:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bce4dc724d4a - Jon Coppeard - Bug 869469 - GC: Fix typo in rooting analysis script and add annotation for MDefinition.opName r=sfink
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  1156. # [12:54] <NeilAway> nigelb: hg has a rebase these days
  1157. # [12:54] <nigelb> NeilAway: Oh, interesting.
  1158. # [12:55] <NeilAway> certainly more fun than the mq dance
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  1160. # [12:55] <NeilAway> only problem is that c-c's client.py doesn't know about it, so I have to type the commands manually
  1161. # [12:56] <nigelb> NeilAway: Do people use hg branches like git branches though?
  1162. # [12:56] <nigelb> I thought they were somehow diferent?
  1163. # [12:57] <NeilAway> nigelb: not having used git, I have no idea
  1164. # [12:58] <nigelb> Not having used hg much, I have no idea either.
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  1170. # [13:03] <Gijs> I think in git, branches are cheap... essentially just like in hg a tag on a revision would work.
  1171. # [13:03] <Gijs> in mercurial branches are somehow not cheap?
  1172. # [13:03] <Gijs> But I'm not sure why. :)
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  1175. # [13:09] <AutomatedTester> nigelb: mercurial queues are the equivalent to git branches from my experience
  1176. # [13:10] <nigelb> AutomatedTester: but mercurial branches are not equal to git branches, right?
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  1179. # [13:10] <AutomatedTester> i have never used a mercurial branch
  1180. # [13:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5971dba36391 - Aryeh Gregor - Bug 867096 - Convert nsTransactionStack from nsDeque to std::deque; r=ehsan
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  1214. # [13:43] <AryehGregor> ../../dist/include/nsCOMPtr.h:153:5: note: candidate constructor not viable: no known conversion from 'nsMIMEInfoMac *' to 'decltype(nullptr)' (aka 'nullptr_t') for 1st argument
  1215. # [13:43] <AryehGregor> Oh, wait, that error makes sense, actually.
  1216. # [13:43] <AryehGregor> Never mind me.
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  1221. # [13:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c97a67b4ec08 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 836599 - Part 7: Implement a non-realtime API in MediaStreamGraph; r=roc
  1222. # [13:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3710924cf7ea - Jim Mathies - Bug 852622 - Remove extraneous class name from css throbber binding. r=me
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  1262. # [14:08] <mjrosenb> I'm guessing I can't have virtual inheritance where the parent object is shared amongst multiple objects?
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  1281. # [14:20] <RyanVM> glandium: I agree about ICU
  1282. # [14:20] <RyanVM> but I don't know who makes that call
  1283. # [14:21] <glandium> RyanVM: me neither
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  1285. # [14:22] <edmorley> that we shouldn't ship with it?
  1286. # [14:23] <RyanVM> that we should back out having it built by default
  1287. # [14:23] <edmorley> ah
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  1289. # [14:24] <RyanVM> because it breaks cross-compiles and blocks switching to gcc4.7
  1290. # [14:24] <edmorley> agree
  1291. # [14:24] <RyanVM> then it's unanimous!
  1292. # [14:24] <RyanVM> #developers agrees :)
  1293. # [14:25] <RyanVM> glandium: how ready are you to make the switch otherwise?
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  1295. # [14:25] <glandium> RyanVM: we just need releng to do it, that's all
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  1297. # [14:25] <RyanVM> since the rules are obviously different after the switch when re-landing actually turns builds red :)
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  1299. # [14:26] <RyanVM> bug 869659 is a fuzzblocker too
  1300. # [14:26] <Pike> I wouldn't think that a compiler switch determines our intl story, though
  1301. # [14:26] <RyanVM> decoder: ping
  1302. # [14:26] <glandium> Pike: it's not the compiler switch, it's the switch to building 32-bits builds with a 64-bits toolchain
  1303. # [14:27] <glandium> which we need because we're getting close to exhaust the 32-bits address space
  1304. # [14:27] <glandium> so close that people hit the wall on local builds
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  1308. # [14:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97e73b69c279 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset e40466e428dc (bug 853301) for breaking cross-compiles.
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  1312. # [14:29] <Pike> sounds like a weird order of doing things to me
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  1314. # [14:30] <glandium> Pike: what is?
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  1316. # [14:30] <@ted> there's no feature important enough that we'd keep it enabled at the expense of having our builds not actually build
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  1318. # [14:33] <glandium> "build" is the #1 feature
  1319. # [14:33] <glandium> trumps everything else
  1320. # [14:33] <Pike> also, the bugs don't seem to make sense at this point, notably, bug 869659 being closed but being the reason for the back-out
  1321. # [14:33] <froydnj> it builds, ship it?
  1322. # [14:33] <RyanVM> glandium: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857697#c37 still the plan?
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  1324. # [14:34] <RyanVM> Pike: what doesn't make sense about resolving a regression bug when the patch that broke it is backed out? That's how we've done things in the past...
  1325. # [14:34] <glandium> Pike: huh? 869659 is not closed
  1326. # [14:35] <glandium> ah, now it is
  1327. # [14:35] <glandium> RyanVM: well, that bug needs fixing
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  1329. # [14:36] <RyanVM> glandium: ah, usually in the case of backouts, the fix is rolled in with the re-landing
  1330. # [14:36] <RyanVM> if that's not appropriate here, then reopen
  1331. # [14:36] <glandium> RyanVM: that landing just turns something on
  1332. # [14:36] <glandium> RyanVM: in the present case, that would work if you were backing out 724533
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  1336. # [14:37] <RyanVM> then reopen
  1337. # [14:38] <glandium> i just did
  1338. # [14:39] <NeilAway> RyanVM: wait, what's that about gcc 4.7?
  1339. # [14:40] <RyanVM> glandium: and does <whoever> in RelEng know the ball is in their court?
  1340. # [14:40] <glandium> RyanVM: they do
  1341. # [14:41] <RyanVM> are they planning to do it this cycle still or after the uplift?
  1342. # [14:41] <glandium> RyanVM: no idea
  1343. # [14:41] <glandium> Callek: ^
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  1347. # [14:51] <edmorley> RyanVM: bah what's with the flaky infra today... :-(
  1348. # [14:51] <RyanVM> dunno
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  1350. # [14:54] <Standard8> has there been any issue uploading nightlies for Firefox?
  1351. # [14:54] <Standard8> like permissions issues?
  1352. # [14:54] <Standard8> hmm, I guess not
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  1362. # [14:58] <catlee-buildduty> glandium: who's on the hook for the compiler uplift?
  1363. # [14:59] <glandium> catlee-buildduty: callek
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  1366. # [15:01] <glandium> catlee-buildduty: but really, that could be anyone
  1367. # [15:01] <glandium> i'm guilty of not having pushed hard enough
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  1376. # [15:08] <Standard8> ok, so how do I tell if a build is using the windows 8 sdk?
  1377. # [15:09] <Standard8> specifically looking at tinderbox logs
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  1379. # [15:13] <RyanVM> Standard8: I would think it would show when configure runs
  1380. # [15:15] <Standard8> gah
  1381. # [15:15] <Standard8> thunderbird isn't
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  1383. # [15:16] <Standard8> and I should know that...
  1384. # [15:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c964beb8d3e - ISHIKAWA, Chiaki - Bug 866463 - Remove the initial incorrect assignment. r=joe
  1385. # [15:22] <JosiahOne> If my patch had mochitest-chrome failures, what does that actually mean? I'm not sure what mochitest-chrome tests for.
  1386. # [15:22] <joe> JosiahOne: mochitest-chrome are mochitests that are run with chrome privileges, but are otherwise regular browser tests
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  1388. # [15:22] <joe> er
  1389. # [15:23] <joe> regular *content* tests
  1390. # [15:23] <joe> and there are a lot of them, so you'll need to look at the individual test that failed to find out what it means
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  1393. # [15:24] <decoder> RyanVM: pong
  1394. # [15:25] <RyanVM> pong: do you use cross-compiles for your fuzzing?
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  1396. # [15:25] <decoder> RyanVM: yes, for ARM
  1397. # [15:25] <joe> pong?!
  1398. # [15:25] <joe> /forcenick RyanVM ping
  1399. # [15:26] <RyanVM> hahaha
  1400. # [15:26] <RyanVM> fail
  1401. # [15:26] <RyanVM> wtf was that
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  1403. # [15:26] <JosiahOne> joe: How do I find what tests failed. https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ff30118a4799
  1404. # [15:26] <RyanVM> decoder: good, be sure to add fuzzblocker to the whiteboard on that but then :)
  1405. # [15:26] * JosiahOne Can't believe this change could have caused a test fail.
  1406. # [15:26] <decoder> RyanVM: ah yep. thx
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  1408. # [15:27] <joe> JosiahOne: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=439bae7c9809
  1409. # [15:29] <JosiahOne> joe: Thanks.
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  1421. # [15:35] <joe> RyanVM: i can't tell if https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=848490#c4 was sarcasm
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  1423. # [15:36] <RyanVM> it was
  1424. # [15:36] <joe> yeah i figured
  1425. # [15:36] <RyanVM> as in, I shouldn't be having to back people out of m-c for bustage
  1426. # [15:36] <RyanVM> per tree rules, they should be watching it themselves
  1427. # [15:36] <joe> d'accord
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  1429. # [15:37] <froydnj> maybe you should just close m-c until the offending developer backs out their own push
  1430. # [15:37] <RyanVM> yeah, except I wanted to do an inbound merge
  1431. # [15:37] <RyanVM> since we hadn't done one all day
  1432. # [15:37] <RyanVM> 169 csets
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  1434. # [15:38] <RyanVM> so as much as I love blocking myself :P
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  1436. # [15:39] <joe> i can give you gw280's home phone number so you can autodial him every 15 minutes for 6 days straight
  1437. # [15:39] <RyanVM> niiiiice
  1438. # [15:39] <RyanVM> lol, I keep forgetting that I have phonebook access
  1439. # [15:39] <RyanVM> could have *sooo* much fun with that
  1440. # [15:39] <RyanVM> "Hello?" - "Hi, this is your friendly neighborhood sheriff. BACK YOUR SHIT OUT."
  1441. # [15:40] <joe> with a voice synthesizer
  1442. # [15:40] <joe> HELLO THIS IS INTERNET CALLING
  1443. # [15:40] <joe> YOU BROKE ME
  1444. # [15:40] <RyanVM> I need the Scream-style voice modulator
  1445. # [15:40] <froydnj> "My name is RyanVM. You burned my tree. Prepare to back out."
  1446. # [15:40] <RyanVM> "Hello Sydney"
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  1448. # [15:41] <joe> i bet we could do that with the audio api
  1449. # [15:41] <RyanVM> hah
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  1459. # [15:47] <@ted> haha
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  1461. # [15:47] <@ted> oh man
  1462. # [15:47] <@ted> dial-a-developer
  1463. # [15:47] <@ted> HELLO THIS IS THE TREE
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  1465. # [15:48] <Gijs> ted: hey, this is not the tree - but just wondering, does mozilla-build have a release schedule?
  1466. # [15:48] <@ted> nope
  1467. # [15:49] <@ted> we have a release candidate for 1.7 that i should just publish
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  1469. # [15:49] <Gijs> ted: I was having some mercurial issues, turns out the version it ships is quite old, and you fixed that already, but didn't release yet. :)
  1470. # [15:49] <Gijs> Mmk!
  1471. # [15:49] <Gijs> Consider this a gentle nudge to "just publish" that, then! ;)
  1472. # [15:50] <@ted> http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/MozillaBuildSetup1.7pre.exe
  1473. # [15:51] <Gijs> ted: yeah, I sort of just manually installed an updated hg by now. :(
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  1477. # [15:52] <jdm> RyanVM: do you know why https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=d7a5a55a270f isn't showing an OS X build?
  1478. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8b3f78b002c2 - Chris Cooper - Bug 852553 - Set l10n base dir to l10n/ in mozconfigs (DONTBUILD) - r=armenzg
  1479. # [15:52] <JosiahOne> How would one run a single test for Firefox?
  1480. # [15:52] <RyanVM> jdm: I see it
  1481. # [15:52] <RyanVM> it's red
  1482. # [15:52] <@ted> Gijs: it's not much more than that
  1483. # [15:53] <jdm> ...
  1484. # [15:53] <jdm> that literally just appeared
  1485. # [15:53] <jdm> weird
  1486. # [15:53] <daleharvey> mochitest? you can TEST_PATH=/file/you/want/to/test
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  1489. # [15:53] <RyanVM> jdm: there's a lag between buildbot reporting a completed job and it showing on tbpl
  1490. # [15:53] <Gijs> JosiahOne: you use mach with the relevant mochitest target and pass it a path to the test you want.
  1491. # [15:53] <@ted> JosiahOne: depends on the test, but you can ./mach mochitest-plain path/to/test_whatever.html
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  1494. # [15:53] <RyanVM> jdm: due to how tbpl builds up the display currently
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  1496. # [15:54] <JosiahOne> ted: Excellent, thanks.
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  1501. # [15:54] <jimm> Standard8: looks like thunderbird is still building according to tbpl.
  1502. # [15:55] <jimm> Standard8: oh, pfft. nm.
  1503. # [15:55] <Standard8> jimm: not on Windows ...
  1504. # [15:55] <jimm> needed to refresh
  1505. # [15:55] <Standard8> ah
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  1507. # [15:55] <Standard8> I'm actually looking at upgrading to the 8 sdk there
  1508. # [15:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f990be99e7b - Brian Hackett - Bug 869706 - Track nonNativeGetElement and accessGetter info in baseline scripts, r=jandem.
  1509. # [15:55] <Standard8> but I think it needs releng work
  1510. # [15:55] <RyanVM> ted: can you rebuild 1.7pre with the updated hg/python before you publish?
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  1514. # [15:56] <edmorley> jdm: the tbpl ui has a 2min refresh cycle, so you'll have been out of phase with RyanVM
  1515. # [15:56] <jimm> Standard8: the win8 sdk is on all win builders so I don't think relend needs to do anything.
  1516. # [15:57] <edmorley> RyanVM: are you wanting to merge or shall I? (seeing as the win8 failures have turned out to be nothing, which is what I was blocking it on)
  1517. # [15:57] <@ted> RyanVM: yeah, i can do that
  1518. # [15:57] <Standard8> jimm: ah, slightly different for tb… we still build with mapi, and from 8, that's no longer part of the sdk
  1519. # [15:57] <RyanVM> ted: cool, thans
  1520. # [15:57] <jimm> oy
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  1523. # [15:57] <RyanVM> edmorley: you can, but let me merge birch over first
  1524. # [15:58] <edmorley> ok cool
  1525. # [15:58] <jimm> Standard8: is mapi isolated in its own set of headers?
  1526. # [15:58] <jimm> in which case it should still work.
  1527. # [15:58] <Standard8> jimm: yeah, I believe so
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  1529. # [15:58] <edmorley> there were only two birch changesets when I checked this morning, I don't know whether you'd rather we do a time based or cset based merge cycle?
  1530. # [15:58] <Standard8> jimm: but they have to be downloaded and installed, no?
  1531. # [15:58] <edmorley> s/changesets/changesets outstanding/
  1532. # [15:59] <jdm> ted: I made this change to the os x postflight stuff: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/d62d7f791a48#l2.1 but I still see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22730312&tree=Try
  1533. # [16:00] <RyanVM> edmorley: time-based for birch
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  1535. # [16:00] <RyanVM> need to get blockers uplifted
  1536. # [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/64c5d1f3d728 - rlin@mozilla.com - Bug 868960 - [FMRadio] FM Radio volume is not updated by headset ejecting. r=mwu
  1537. # [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/62a9fd6e8a4a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
  1538. # [16:00] <@ted> jdm: apparently you wound up with a copy of automation.py in test-package-stage/xpcshell/*tests*
  1539. # [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ea89e932e5a3 - Eric Chou - Bug 869332 - Don't reset call status while receiving an unhandled CallStateChanged event, r=gyeh
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  1541. # [16:00] <jdm> oh, hmm
  1542. # [16:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7243109bed0a - Gene Lian - Bug 869841 - B2G MMS: Gaia cannot get request returned after calling .sendMMS(...). r=vicamo a=leo+
  1543. # [16:01] <jdm> thanks
  1544. # [16:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f935a7970137 - Chris Cooper - Bug 852553 - Set l10n base dir to l10n/ in mozconfigs (DONTBUILD) - r=armenzg, a=NPOTB
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  1546. # [16:01] <spaghetti> I have a few questions about the "safebrowing" feature in Firefox
  1547. # [16:01] <jimm> Standard8: on mc, we still add the older sdk paths after the win8 paths - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/win32/mozconfig.vs2010-win64
  1548. # [16:01] <spaghetti> Does Firefox stop fetching safebrowsing data if the browser is inactive? The spec says the list is updated every 30 minutes, but doesn't say anything about user activity.
  1549. # [16:01] <spaghetti> 2. The data itself is authenticated, but it is also served over HTTP, and the protocol supports requesting specific lists and segments. This introduces the ability of exits to repeatedly block list segments in an attempt to create a supercookie in the client that appears like it can persist for up to 6 hours (based on the retry behavior in https:/
  1550. # [16:01] <spaghetti> /wiki.mozilla.org/Phishing_Protection:_Design_Documentation#Client_Backoff). Is there a way for websites to read this supercookie at will?
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  1552. # [16:02] <Standard8> jimm: oh interesting, it might just work then
  1553. # [16:02] <Standard8> jimm: well, I've got a push to try running now, so we'll see
  1554. # [16:02] <jimm> Standard8: yeah it should still find mapi.h
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  1556. # [16:02] <jimm> cool
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  1561. # [16:04] <spaghetti> Would this be the right place to ask about safebrowsing?
  1562. # [16:04] <jimm> Standard8: sorry for the mix up, I should have followed up on switching tb over.
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  1566. # [16:04] <jdm> spaghetti: I suspect #security might know better
  1567. # [16:05] <spaghetti> Ok
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  1569. # [16:05] <spaghetti> Thanks
  1570. # [16:05] <jdm> it won't be too active right now, though
  1571. # [16:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6cea585acd21 - Dan Gohman - Bug 869501 - Add an accessor to MCompare for testing whether the comparison is
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  1575. # [16:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5da1839640f5 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and inbound
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  1577. # [16:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e19d0885977c - Ed Morley - Merge latest green inbound changeset and mozilla-central
  1578. # [16:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7243109bed0a - Gene Lian - Bug 869841 - B2G MMS: Gaia cannot get request returned after calling .sendMMS(...). r=vicamo a=leo+
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  1580. # [16:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b3f78b002c2 - Chris Cooper - Bug 852553 - Set l10n base dir to l10n/ in mozconfigs (DONTBUILD) - r=armenzg
  1581. # [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea89e932e5a3 - Eric Chou - Bug 869332 - Don't reset call status while receiving an unhandled CallStateChanged event, r=gyeh
  1582. # [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62a9fd6e8a4a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
  1583. # [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64c5d1f3d728 - rlin@mozilla.com - Bug 868960 - [FMRadio] FM Radio volume is not updated by headset ejecting. r=mwu
  1584. # [16:07] <baku> peterv, ping
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  1587. # [16:08] <Standard8> does anyone know anything how to debug via xcode/gdb on mac? Whenever I try and hook in gdb, it just crashes...
  1588. # [16:08] <Standard8> or rather when I run from gdb it crashes
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  1593. # [16:11] <Standard8> oh strange
  1594. # [16:11] <Standard8> if I attach to process after it has started running, it is fine
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  1601. # [16:16] <jdm> who's on buildduty?
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  1603. # [16:17] <jdm> actually, that's probably not what I need
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  1607. # [16:19] <@bz> Is jsperf.com dead ?
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  1613. # [16:22] <froydnj> bz: wfm
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  1615. # [16:24] <gaston> ehsan: i think i should be there around 2 fwiw :)
  1616. # [16:24] <@ehsan> cool
  1617. # [16:25] * philor|away is now known as philor
  1618. # [16:25] <@ehsan> gaston: I think I have a meeting around then, but I'm sure others can welcome you
  1619. # [16:25] <@ehsan> gaston: perhaps BenWa or bjacob?
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  1621. # [16:25] <gaston> too many benoits :)
  1622. # [16:26] <@ehsan> I know :)
  1623. # [16:26] <BenWa> More like not enough!
  1624. # [16:26] <jcranmer> bz: don't get your hopes up?
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  1640. # [16:33] <@bz> jcranmer: hmm
  1641. # [16:34] * @bz can't load a testcase there
  1642. # [16:34] <@bz> ah, now it's back, ok
  1643. # [16:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d95ddf1d37b0 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 866254 followup: improve debug logging and minor cleanup, r=Yoric
  1644. # [16:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd020c8432e6 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 866254: fix failure to initialize search service in cases where the async initialization fails to complete before the synchronous fallback is invoked, r=Yoric
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  1662. # [16:40] <JosiahOne> Argh. Am I suppose to have Firefox open when I run "./mach mochitest-plain" ?
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  1669. # [16:41] <JosiahOne> According to: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mochitest I only need to build first.
  1670. # [16:42] <JosiahOne> But when I run the command I only get: "uncaught exception: 2147746065", and nothing appears to happen after that.
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  1676. # [16:44] <@bz> in a mochitest, how do I trigger gc/cc?
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  1678. # [16:45] <@gavin> SpecialPowers.gc() or some such?
  1679. # [16:46] <@gavin> yeah
  1680. # [16:46] <@gavin> and there's also forceGC()
  1681. # [16:46] <@gavin> check the implementations because IIRC the names are somewhat nonsensical
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  1685. # [16:48] <jdm> JosiahOne: running the mochitest should bring up an instance of firefox
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  1687. # [16:48] <jdm> it sounds like you have the server running, though
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  1689. # [16:48] <@bz> gavin: yeah, and forceCC
  1690. # [16:48] * @bz tries to figure out how they differ
  1691. # [16:48] <jdm> JosiahOne: grep your process list for xpcshell and/or ssltunnel and kill it if you see it
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  1693. # [16:48] <jdm> JosiahOne: note that mochitest-plain is different from mochitest-chrome
  1694. # [16:49] <JosiahOne> jdm: Right, both did the same thing though.
  1695. # [16:49] <jdm> and running either of those commands without any further arguments will cause your computer to be unusable for multiple hours
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  1698. # [16:49] <JosiahOne> jdm: Yikes! Well, okay. I really only want to run one test.
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  1700. # [16:50] <jdm> JosiahOne: ./mach mochitest-chrome path/to/test/file.html
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  1704. # [16:50] <JosiahOne> jdm: That would work with an xul file too right?
  1705. # [16:50] <jdm> JosiahOne: yes.
  1706. # [16:50] <JosiahOne> jdm: Okay.
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  1709. # [16:51] <@ted> does geolocation not work in desktop firefox right now?
  1710. # [16:51] <@ted> i get the prompt, but i don't ever get a result
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  1717. # [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0057a14ffc5 - Josh Matthews - Bug 869893 - Remove Off-Main-Thread XPCWrappedJS refcounting from SignRunnable. r=jedp
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  1719. # [16:52] <jdm> ted: we have tests that suggest that the geolocation machinery continues to work
  1720. # [16:53] <jdm> maybe the google service is not giving us responses
  1721. # [16:53] <@ted> hum
  1722. # [16:53] <@ted> possible
  1723. # [16:53] <@ted> a simple test shows that neither my success nor error callbacks are called
  1724. # [16:53] <@ted> so that's exciting
  1725. # [16:53] <@ted> seems to work fine on mobile
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  1736. # [16:55] <m_gol> bz: I wanted to run tests for the box-sizing patch
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  1738. # [16:55] <m_gol> and I wanted to try the current default inbound build first
  1739. # [16:56] <m_gol> but I seem to have some problems with running tests...
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  1741. # [16:56] <m_gol> ./mach build runs fine
  1742. # [16:56] <m_gol> and then
  1743. # [16:56] <m_gol> ./mach mochitest-plain layout/reftests/box-sizing/
  1744. # [16:56] <m_gol> Specified test path does not exist: /Users/mgol/Documents/projects/public/mozilla-inbound/obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.3.0/_tests/testing/mochitest/tests/layout/reftests/box-sizing
  1745. # [16:56] <m_gol> You may need to run |mach build| to build the test files.
  1746. # [16:56] <m_gol> I'm on OS X 10.8.3
  1747. # [16:56] <Ms2ger> Well, that makes sense
  1748. # [16:57] <Ms2ger> A reftest isn't a mochitest
  1749. # [16:57] <Ms2ger> Try ./mach reftest layout/reftests/box-sizing/
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  1751. # [16:57] <m_gol> ach, thx
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  1753. # [16:57] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1756. # [16:58] <Ms2ger> Eventually we'll move towards ./mach test foo/bar, but that needs some work still
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  1758. # [16:58] <@ted> jdm: http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/geo.html
  1759. # [16:58] <@ted> try loading that on dersktop
  1760. # [16:58] <@ted> desktop
  1761. # [16:58] <@ted> vs. mobile
  1762. # [16:59] <@ted> on mobile i get locations
  1763. # [16:59] <@ted> on desktop nothing
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  1765. # [16:59] <jdm> ted: I got a position on desktop
  1766. # [16:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d98636bc27b - Jim Mathies - Bug 869936 - Add GetPreferredCompositorBackend to MetroWidget. r=bbondy
  1767. # [16:59] <@ted> huh
  1768. # [16:59] <@ted> what OS?
  1769. # [16:59] <jdm> ted: linux
  1770. # [16:59] <jdm> any interesting prefs if you search for geo?
  1771. # [16:59] * @ted looks
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  1774. # [17:00] <@ted> huh
  1775. # [17:00] <@ted> i have goofy prefs
  1776. # [17:00] <@ted> user error
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  1778. # [17:01] <@ted> hm, no
  1779. # [17:01] <@ted> that doesn't seem to fix it :-/
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  1783. # [17:05] * @ted wonders what he's screwed up
  1784. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> EVERYTHING
  1785. # [17:05] <Ms2ger> Also, good morning
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  1788. # [17:06] <@ted> doesn't work on any of my desktop machines
  1789. # [17:06] <@ted> so that's exciting
  1790. # [17:06] <@ted> maybe google doesn't like me
  1791. # [17:06] <@ted> i'd expect to get an error at least
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  1801. # [17:10] <jdm> ted: there is an outstanding bug where error codes from the google service don't cause us to trigger a geolocation error callback
  1802. # [17:10] <jdm> or do anything really
  1803. # [17:10] <jdm> we just drop it on the floor
  1804. # [17:11] <@ted> :-/
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  1806. # [17:12] <@ted> hah
  1807. # [17:12] <@ted> {
  1808. # [17:12] <@ted> "status" : "ZERO_RESULTS"
  1809. # [17:12] <@ted> }
  1810. # [17:12] <@ted> is my google geolocation response
  1811. # [17:12] <@ted> browser console FTW
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  1813. # [17:12] <@ted> so google is basically saying "i have no idea where you are"
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  1815. # [17:12] <@ted> and we just leave the geo api hanging
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  1824. # [17:15] <gabor> is the tree broken or something? I get TextureD3D11.h(226) : error C2065: 'D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_11_1' : undeclared identifier errors on windows
  1825. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Rings somewhat of a bell
  1826. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> Are you on tip?
  1827. # [17:16] <gabor> I have some local changes after a pull and update...
  1828. # [17:16] <TheOne> it would've been so awesome if they called it edge instead of tip
  1829. # [17:17] <Standard8> gabor: you need the windows 8 sdk
  1830. # [17:18] <@ted> jdm: you dont' happen to know that geo bug do you?
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  1832. # [17:18] <Standard8> gabor: well, see bug 869868
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  1834. # [17:18] <gabor> Standard8: on wndows 7? uhhh...
  1835. # [17:18] <Ms2ger> TheOne, are you on the edge? ;)
  1836. # [17:18] <TheOne> exactly!
  1837. # [17:18] <jdm> ted: bug 684722
  1838. # [17:18] <Standard8> gabor: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Windows_SDK_versions
  1839. # [17:19] <@ted> thx
  1840. # [17:20] <gabor> Standard8: thanks a lot
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  1853. # [17:26] <TheOne> buzzword bingo time again?
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  1855. # [17:27] <JosiahOne> Flash-like? That's never a good sign.
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  1860. # [17:30] <TheOne> but it's Flash-like HTML5
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  1865. # [17:33] <m_gol> k, the patch at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243412 passes all box-sizing tests
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  1869. # [17:35] <jlebar|sleep> If I want a simple automated testcase that reflows like crazy, how might I do that? I was thinking of having a lot of text and use a CSS animation to change the indent of the first line, or something.
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  1873. # [17:37] <@ehsan> jlebar|sleep: do you need anything special to happen during reflow?
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  1875. # [17:37] <@ehsan> or do you need an expensive one?
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  1878. # [17:37] <JosiahOne> TheOne: If it has "Flash" in the name... Who knows what will happen.
  1879. # [17:37] <jlebar> ehsan: An expensive one would be great
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  1882. # [17:38] <@ehsan> jlebar: nest some tables inside each other, and then do something like change the width of the container
  1883. # [17:38] <jlebar> ehsan: I'm trying to generate a an automated testcase which simulates pinching + zooming on nytimes. On my device, it seems that all that happens during that procedure is reflow.
  1884. # [17:38] <@ehsan> jlebar: 20 levels of nesting should give you a very expensive reflow
  1885. # [17:38] <@ehsan> oh
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  1889. # [17:38] <@ehsan> jlebar: hmm, I'm not sure what nytimes does exactly
  1890. # [17:38] <jlebar> I mean, it doesn't have to be a particularly accurate simulation of the nytimes thing, I think.
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  1892. # [17:39] <jlebar> What seems significant is that the reflow happens, and causes a paint.
  1893. # [17:39] <@ehsan> if all you want is an expensive reflow, nested tables are the way to go
  1894. # [17:39] <jlebar> okay, I'll try it out.
  1895. # [17:39] <jlebar> thanks!
  1896. # [17:39] <@ehsan> cool
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  1898. # [17:39] <@ehsan> let me know how it works out
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  1901. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> m_gol, I suspect Boris meant the spec's test suite, fwiw...
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  1903. # [17:40] <the_tooth> So, I have a few questions about safebrowsing
  1904. # [17:40] <the_tooth> Does Firefox stop fetching safebrowsing data if the browser is inactive?
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  1907. # [17:41] <the_tooth> The spec says the list is updated every 30 minutes,
  1908. # [17:41] <the_tooth> but doesn't say anything about user activity.
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  1912. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> m_gol, though it doesn't look like that exists
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  1915. # [17:43] <m_gol> ahh...
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  1921. # [17:44] <m_gol> Ms2ger: I've run the usual find on the mozilla-inbound repo and these tests were the only ones matching box-sizing or box_sizing name
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  1926. # [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5566cebc8766 - Patrick McManus - bug 869100 complete token bucket a/b test r=honzab
  1927. # [17:46] <@bz> Well, I'd hope we pass our own tests
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  1931. # [17:46] <@bz> For unprefixing what matters is whether we follow the spec
  1932. # [17:46] <@bz> Or at least strongly believe we do....
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  1938. # [17:49] <jesup> jlebar: Just load a full log from tbpl.... Though while it's all reflow, the time is all spent laying out lines of text. :-)
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  1945. # [17:52] <jesup> jlebar: bug 566066 as one example
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  1948. # [17:53] <jesup> jlebar: and bug 367116 which has more recent data
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  1950. # [17:55] <jlebar> jesup: I think that would oom the phone. :)
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  1956. # [17:56] * RyanVM really wishes *someone* could fix that already
  1957. # [17:57] <@bz> What's the technical term for files that can look like both a gif and an exe or whatnot?
  1958. # [17:57] <Ms2ger> "Crap"
  1959. # [17:57] <the_tooth> ^
  1960. # [17:57] * @bz is being serious
  1961. # [17:57] <mbrubeck> polyglot?
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  1964. # [17:58] <Ms2ger> bz, I know you are, but since I have but jest to offer, that's what you get :)
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  1971. # [18:01] <RattyAway> Bas: re Bug 869868 - Cannot build old Windows SDKs since Bug 830347
  1972. # [18:01] <RattyAway> I've downloaded and installed the Windows 8 SDK, rebooted, ran pymake configure but I'm still getting
  1973. # [18:01] <mbrubeck> bz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyglot_%28computing%29 -- refers to program source files, but the idea is the same
  1974. # [18:01] <RattyAway> error C2065: 'D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_11_1' : undeclared identifier
  1975. # [18:01] <RattyAway> etc
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  1977. # [18:01] <Bas> RattyWay: I'm guessing your mozilla-build is nto looking at the right SDK
  1978. # [18:01] <jesup> jlebar: yup (had to try loading it on a B2G phone, just to see. Crashes pretty fast...)
  1979. # [18:02] <Bas> RattyWay: Make sure you have the latest mozilla-build :) I hope that should fix it.
  1980. # [18:02] <Bas> RattyAway: And uninstall the Win7 SDK if you wanna be completely sure.
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  1982. # [18:03] <jesup> jlebar: awwww, about:crashes on b2g shows nothing
  1983. # [18:03] <RattyAway> Bas: I've deleted config.cache how do I force it to find the right sdk?
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  1985. # [18:04] <Bas> RattyAway: That's handled by the MozillaBuild system.
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  2021. # [18:16] <m_gol> bz: does it mean spec-compliance tests have to be written before unprefixing?
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  2029. # [18:18] <@bz> m_gol: it means that someone who knows the spec and knows the state of our implementation needs to sit down and spend a bunch of time to compare the two and then make the call
  2030. # [18:18] <m_gol> k, thx
  2031. # [18:18] <@bz> m_gol: unless said spec-compliance tests get written, yes
  2032. # [18:18] <@bz> m_gol: and in the latter case we'd need to somewhat evaluate the tests...
  2033. # [18:18] <RattyAway> Bas: hmm I'm already using the latest mozilla-build (1.6.1)
  2034. # [18:19] <m_gol> bz: seems like it might require quite some time...
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  2036. # [18:20] <Ms2ger> m_gol, tinstaafl ;)
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  2038. # [18:21] <Bas> RattyAway: Try uninstalling your Win7 SDK.
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  2043. # [18:22] <RattyAway> Bas: err ok
  2044. # [18:23] <@bz> m_gol: yes
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  2049. # [18:25] <@bz> dbaron: ping
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  2051. # [18:25] <@bz> m_gol: If I had more faith in our impl of this stuff it would be easier...
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  2054. # [18:28] <m_gol> bz: well, isn't the new Firefox policy to unprefix before solving all problems? see flexbox
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  2056. # [18:28] <m_gol> anyway, I've been using * { box-sizing: border-box } for some time and it seems to work fine in Firefox
  2057. # [18:29] <@bz> flexbox is unprefixed but NOT SHIPPING
  2058. # [18:29] <m_gol> obviously, that's no proof
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  2060. # [18:29] <m_gol> ah, right
  2061. # [18:29] <@bz> m_gol: you tested it with replaced elements that have min and max width/height set?
  2062. # [18:29] <@bz> m_gol: That's the #1 place where I would expect bugs
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  2064. # [18:29] <m_gol> It was in 20 but it got removed
  2065. # [18:29] <@bz> m_gol: also in shrink-wrap situations of various sorts...
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  2068. # [18:30] <@bz> m_gol: And tables, of course, though it's not like the spec would define behavior there anyway
  2069. # [18:30] <@bz> m_gol: I guess since everyone else has unprefixed whatever random stuff they have the bar might be lower..
  2070. # [18:30] <@bz> m_gol: since it's all a non-interoperable mess no matter what we do. :(
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  2076. # [18:32] <m_gol> bz: well, I use it for * and I have lots of inputs, buttons etc. that have width/height defined
  2077. # [18:32] <m_gol> and it seems to work fine
  2078. # [18:32] <m_gol> no tests on tables, though, I try not to use them
  2079. # [18:33] <@bz> m_gol: you need images
  2080. # [18:33] * jhopkins|afk is now known as jhopkins
  2081. # [18:33] <@bz> m_gol: since inputs/buttons do not have intrinsic ratio
  2082. # [18:33] <@bz> m_gol: and the key part is min/max width/height, not just width/height
  2083. # [18:33] <@bz> m_gol: and of course having nonzero padding/borders on the images...
  2084. # [18:33] <@bz> m_gol: and testing all three values of box-sizing...
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  2089. # [18:34] <m_gol> bz: ok, so I can write some tests for that once I find time, if it helps
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  2093. # [18:34] <m_gol> but I don't know the whole spec and I certainly know little about Fx implementation to cover everything
  2094. # [18:34] <@bz> m_gol: Or even just check whether we already have test coverage for this....
  2095. # [18:35] <@bz> m_gol: I'm not saying you have to do this, just that it needs doing. :(
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  2100. # [18:35] <@bz> m_gol: what would be a good start is figuring out what our existing test coverage covers.
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  2103. # [18:35] <m_gol> bz: I know, it's just since I apply border-box to almost everything, I kind of care for it to work correctly ;)
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  2107. # [18:36] <@bz> m_gol: Makes sense. ;)
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  2121. # [18:39] <m_gol> bz: current tests from layout/reftests/box-sizing don't touch min-/max- height/width, unfortunately
  2122. # [18:40] <@bz> m_gol: not surprising...
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  2133. # [18:44] <RattyAway> Bas: so I uninstalled the Win7 SDK and now I get:
  2134. # [18:44] <RattyAway> configure(4022) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'winsdkver.h': No such file or directory
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  2139. # [18:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db7759b03389 - Chris AtLee - Bug 807792: Add gecko configs for emulator b2g target. r=jhopkins DONTBUILD
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  2145. # [18:51] <RyanVM> RattyAway: did you clobber?
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  2148. # [18:52] <RyanVM> jesup: any idea what to make of this? Seeing few like it on inbound right now. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22737338&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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  2156. # [18:56] <RattyAway> RyanVM: I'm just running pymake configure
  2157. # [18:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55b00015a660 - Colby Russell - Bug 861495 - Transplant getOuterWindowWithId from nsIDOMWindowUtils to a window-related service: WebConsoleUtils.jsm; r=msucan
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  2159. # [18:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c05e7a9e51c - Colby Russell - Bug 861495 - Transplant getOuterWindowWithId from nsIDOMWindowUtils to a window-related service: ConsoleAPITests.js; r=msucan
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  2161. # [18:57] <Bas> RattyAway: So it does indeed look like your mozilla-build is not finding the right Windows SDK.
  2162. # [18:57] <Bas> RattyAway: Maybe jimm is able to tell you more? I use VS2012 myself so things are different there.
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  2167. # [18:58] <Sixdsn> Hi
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  2169. # [18:58] <Sixdsn> i got a litlle question about pushing on /try
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  2172. # [19:00] <Sixdsn> i have level1 access but i cant connect via ssh to hg.mozilla.org to test if my accoount is working
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  2176. # [19:00] <Sixdsn> it tells me Permission Denied (publickey)..
  2177. # [19:00] <jdm> Sixdsn: you should see "No interactive shells allowed here!" if it's working
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  2183. # [19:01] <jdm> Sixdsn: do you have any hg.mozilla.org entry in ~/.ssh/config?
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  2185. # [19:02] <Sixdsn> jdm: Yep this is why i was testing it but it gets an error
  2186. # [19:02] <Sixdsn> jdm: im gonna check ssh_config
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  2189. # [19:03] <Sixdsn> jdm: yes i have the host entry followed by the user line
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  2191. # [19:03] <jdm> Sixdsn: make sure the user is your full email address
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  2194. # [19:04] <Sixdsn> jdm: sorry i have found the mistake earlier indeed
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  2198. # [19:04] <jdm> heh
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  2205. # [19:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ea128318cc8 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 868042 - Bump PropertyTree::MAX_HEIGHT for objects not used as hashmaps. r=bhackett
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  2207. # [19:09] <nemo> So. My brother-in-law is completely unable to launch Firefox on his OSX 10.7.4 laptop
  2208. # [19:09] <nemo> I suggested blowing away ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox
  2209. # [19:09] <nemo> which didn't seem to help
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  2211. # [19:09] <nemo> then suggested ~/Library/Caches/Firefox which I just discovered
  2212. # [19:09] <nemo> aaaaand. I'm out of ideas
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  2215. # [19:10] <nemo> "but yeah... i've spent a lot of time trying because i hate chrome and safari, but... they launch"
  2216. # [19:10] <nemo> running FF from commandline /Applications/Firefox..etc just hang. Same as clicking on icon
  2217. # [19:11] <nemo> Also, he said his dirs were ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla if that means anything
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  2222. # [19:12] <nemo> he's tried nightly too. says sometimes it seems to launch, then stops working again. or hangs on "checking addons"
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  2228. # [19:15] <nemo> even /Applications/FirefoxNightly.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -safe-mode hangs :-/
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  2237. # [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0b7f22692c3 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 869611 - Stop reflowing in nsSVGPathGeometryFrame::NotifySVGChanged for ancestor transform changes. r=dholbert
  2238. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c47ba5012352 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 870003 - Stop repainting <svg> elements when their children-only transform changes. r=dholbert
  2239. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b7eea794c8e - Jonathan Watt - Bug 869781 - Make nsSVGOuterSVGFrame::Reflow update the overflow rects of its children if it has a viewBox. r=dholbert
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  2287. # [19:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce96360f44f5 - Sean Stangl - Bug 861440 - Add VTune Instrumentation to OdinMonkey. r=luke
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  2295. # [19:47] <jimm> ehsan: fyi, our pgo / linker problems have been escalated to the dev team responsible for pgo.
  2296. # [19:47] <@ehsan> oh really?
  2297. # [19:47] <@ehsan> jimm: I have a meeting with microsoft folks in 15 minutes!
  2298. # [19:47] <gabor> Bas: jimm: so after installing windows sdk 8 I still get D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_11_1' : undeclared identifier (and a bunch of other) errors
  2299. # [19:47] <jimm> yep. I worked with a support person trying various things for a couple weeks, now they've moved it up.
  2300. # [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbebcd9f2531 - Bobby Holley - Bug 869800 - Remove JS_GetGlobalObject from workers. r=bent
  2301. # [19:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/469e647ccbf5 - Bobby Holley - Bug 869800 - Stop using calling JS_SetGlobalObject in workers. r=bent
  2302. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> bholley, hear, hear
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  2304. # [19:48] <bholley> Ms2ger: :-)
  2305. # [19:48] <@ehsan> jimm: huh, nice... so, is my meeting going to be useless?
  2306. # [19:48] <jimm> no idea, what's your meeting about?
  2307. # [19:48] <@ehsan> jimm: our PGO problems!
  2308. # [19:48] <@ehsan> jimm: it's with the guy from that msdn blog post
  2309. # [19:48] <jimm> gabor: the defines are probably behind higher platform definitions.
  2310. # [19:49] * AaronMT is now known as AaronMT|lunch
  2311. # [19:49] <jimm> ehsan: oh, well, hmm. maybe we should let them know about each other.
  2312. # [19:49] <@ehsan> heh ok
  2313. # [19:49] <jimm> let me get the support request id.
  2314. # [19:49] <gabor> jimm: I get that, my question is how can I build the tree in windows with visual studio 10? I'm not being able to do any work at all
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  2316. # [19:50] <RattyAway> gabor: a bit of googling suggsets to use the SDK configuration tool to make the Win 8 sdk the current one.
  2317. # [19:50] <@ehsan> ok
  2318. # [19:50] <gabor> RattAway: actually it is the current one
  2319. # [19:51] <gabor> I think only the driectx is not the right one, or so I guess
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  2324. # [19:51] <jimm> gabor: you could just add the definitions
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  2326. # [19:51] <jimm> I think someone is already working on a patch for that.
  2327. # [19:52] <jimm> Bas didn't have any issues building his code, and mc obviously is building, so maybe you have run into something else.
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  2329. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5b13623631c - Bob Owen - Tests for bug 838692 - Navigating named targets from sandboxed iframes. (r=imelven)
  2330. # [19:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0200fd49efc3 - Bob Owen - Fix for bug 838692 - Navigating named targets from sandboxed iframes. (r=smaug)
  2331. # [19:53] <@khuey> so who broke my build?
  2332. # [19:53] * @khuey eyes Bas
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  2334. # [19:53] <RyanVM> win7 sdk?
  2335. # [19:53] <gabor> jimm: ehh... anyway I can probably fix it on my machine, it just would be great if we found a smoother way to make changes like this...
  2336. # [19:53] <@khuey> RyanVM: uh probably ...
  2337. # [19:54] <@bz> hrm
  2338. # [19:54] <jimm> khuey: switch to the newer sdk
  2339. # [19:54] <gabor> khuey: it's one of those days :)
  2340. # [19:54] <RyanVM> khuey: been a hot topic this morning around here :P
  2341. # [19:54] <@bz> no more NS_DebugBreak_P ?
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  2345. # [19:54] <Ms2ger> bz, no
  2346. # [19:54] <Ms2ger> bz, went away with libxpcom
  2347. # [19:55] <@khuey> bz: bit me too ;-)
  2348. # [19:55] <@khuey> jimm: the solution is to download a new sdk?
  2349. # [19:55] <jimm> what sdk are you using?
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  2351. # [19:56] <@khuey> 7.1
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  2354. # [19:56] <@khuey> jimm: ^
  2355. # [19:56] <jimm> is this the problem you are running into? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869868#c0
  2356. # [19:56] <@khuey> jimm: yes
  2357. # [19:57] <@bz> Ms2ger: where did libxpcom go?
  2358. # [19:57] <jimm> then the simplest fix would be to install the 8.0 sdk and switch to using it.
  2359. # [19:57] <jdm> ted: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/d62d7f791a48#l7.12 installs automation.py to _tests/xpcshell; should it go to testing/xpcshell instead and change all of the places that add -I to use the second one?
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  2361. # [19:57] <@ted> i don't think it really matters
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  2364. # [19:57] <@ted> i think i told you you could just use the one from $objdir/build
  2365. # [19:57] <@ted> since you don't care about the path to the app
  2366. # [19:57] <jdm> ok
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  2368. # [19:58] <@ted> as long as you copy it into the test package in testing/xpcshell
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  2370. # [19:58] <@khuey> jimm: fun
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  2372. # [19:58] <tbsaunde> bz: I think those symbols just lost the _P but more generally I think everything useful was in libxul anyway
  2373. # [19:59] <jimm> sdks don't last forever! :)
  2374. # [19:59] <@khuey> tbsaunde: bz: well you have to be careful, if you omit the _P you might get the external linkage version by accident
  2375. # [19:59] <@khuey> and then your breakpoint is useless
  2376. # [20:00] <@khuey> jimm: can you or Bas send an email to .platform?
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  2379. # [20:00] <tbsaunde> khuey: isn't that a windows only thing?
  2380. # [20:01] <jimm> we've been discussing how to handle addressing it in bug 869868.
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  2382. # [20:01] <tbsaunde> khuey: though I'd expect a breakpoint there would get hit far too often to actually be useful?
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  2384. # [20:01] <jimm> I think someone is working on q one-off fix for the 7.1 sdk
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  2389. # [20:04] <@khuey> tbsaunde: maybe
  2390. # [20:04] <@bz> tbsaunde: breakpoint where?
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  2401. # [20:09] <BenWa> gps: I posted to dev.platform suggesting that we add some kind of smoke test. Perhaps we could add a smoke test target to mach.sh we're it aim to get a good test coverage of Firefox in say under 5 mins
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  2403. # [20:09] <BenWa> or maybe we can just get auto-try/auto-land finish and no worry about that
  2404. # [20:10] <Ms2ger> bz, down the drain
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  2407. # [20:12] <tbsaunde> bz: NS_DebugBreak?
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  2409. # [20:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d2ce5b020cf - Chris Double - Bug 868826 - Fix stagefright blocklist for JB devices - r=bjacob
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  2413. # [20:13] <gps> BenWa: I'd argue |make check| will morph into that smoke test
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  2417. # [20:13] <BenWa> ohh ok excellent
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  2419. # [20:13] <gps> we should move C++ tests and jit tests into their own jobs. then, make check should only take a minute or two
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  2422. # [20:14] <@ted> that doesn't really cover everything we'd want a smoketest to cover
  2423. # [20:14] <@ted> but maybe once we've made it that fast we can add a few things back in
  2424. # [20:14] <@ted> browser startup/shutdown
  2425. # [20:14] <gps> indeed
  2426. # [20:14] <@ted> or run the "sanity" portion of each test suite
  2427. # [20:14] <BenWa> Yes exactly
  2428. # [20:14] <@ted> if that takes an extra few minutes that's not bad
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  2430. # [20:14] <gps> make package covers starting xpcom and possibly the browser
  2431. # [20:15] <@ted> not actually the browser
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  2433. # [20:15] <BenWa> ted: It's a poor use of my time to run tests locally before sending to try but if we had better sanity test I'd run them first
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  2435. # [20:15] <RyanVM> man, there you guys go getting my hopes up again...
  2436. # [20:15] <@ted> heh
  2437. # [20:15] <BenWa> depends on the patch of course
  2438. # [20:16] <gps> BenWa: the dual linking libxul, you aren't making the build steps run in paralle, are you? because that would likely OOM a lot of machines
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  2441. # [20:17] <gps> ld.gold is up to 4.7GB on my machine already - I don't think many people have the memory and I/O to handle parallel linking. although if the build system could detect that...
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  2444. # [20:18] * @khuey can't figure out how to actually install the windows 8 sdk ...
  2445. # [20:18] <gps> all the more reason we need |mach bootstrap| to work on Windows
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  2447. # [20:18] <Ms2ger> Who is cbeard?
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  2449. # [20:19] <@khuey> Ms2ger: marketing
  2450. # [20:19] <Ms2ger> Eh
  2451. # [20:19] <Ms2ger> Why did he email me?
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  2454. # [20:20] <RattyAway> he's a secret fan of yours?
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  2456. # [20:20] <@ted> are you on everyone@ ?
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  2458. # [20:21] <@ted> he's leaving MoCo
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  2461. # [20:21] <philor> everyone!@
  2462. # [20:21] <@khuey> ted: it went out to mozillians too
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  2464. # [20:21] <Ms2ger> ted, he apparently sent it to mozillians
  2465. # [20:21] <jlebar> we've hit just about every list with this
  2466. # [20:22] <@ted> ah
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  2468. # [20:23] <Ms2ger> ted, are you allowed to say that in public? ;)
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  2471. # [20:23] <@ted> *shrug*
  2472. # [20:23] <@ted> if he emailed mozillians i don't think it's particularly secret
  2473. # [20:24] <jlebar> gwagner: when did you start recording this profile with the marketplace app and TO Barcelona?
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  2475. # [20:25] <@khuey> oh, nice
  2476. # [20:25] <@khuey> I need to manually run it as an admin
  2477. # [20:25] <@khuey> it's too stupid to prompt itself
  2478. # [20:25] <@khuey> stupid microsoft
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  2483. # [20:29] <gwagner> jlebar: when I pressed the call button on the other phone
  2484. # [20:29] <jlebar> gwagner: And was the marketplace app showing the whole time, until the incoming call screen popped up?
  2485. # [20:29] <@khuey> jlebar: actually we sent it to mozillians twice
  2486. # [20:29] <Waldo> Ms2ger: cbeard's been around a really long time, surprised you don't recognize the name
  2487. # [20:29] <Waldo> like 2004ish or so
  2488. # [20:29] <jlebar> khuey: probably once to everyone without an @mozilla address in the phonebook, and another time to everyone.
  2489. # [20:30] <gwagner> jlebar: hm not 100% sure but I think I switched to the home screen watching the app installation
  2490. # [20:30] <@khuey> jlebar: no, there's a message from cbeard and one from mitchell
  2491. # [20:30] <@khuey> jlebar: both were sent to everyone@ and to mozillians
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  2493. # [20:30] <jlebar> gwagner: So I see us spending a ton of time doing some sort of animation in the homescreen.
  2494. # [20:30] <Ms2ger> Oh yay, another one
  2495. # [20:30] <gwagner> jlebar: the TO app has a installation animation
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  2497. # [20:31] * jlebar must not have gotten that far
  2498. # [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97163e4941f2 - Dan Gohman - Bug 869507 - IonMonkey x86: Eliminate unnecessary NaN checks. r=nbp
  2499. # [20:31] <jlebar> gwagner: the animation goes for the entire length of the profile...
  2500. # [20:31] <gwagner> jlebar: the icon has an animation
  2501. # [20:31] <Ms2ger> Can we get mozilla.dev.im-leaving-will-miss-yall newsgroup instead?
  2502. # [20:31] <edmorley|away> lol
  2503. # [20:31] <gwagner> jlebar: yeah the app was still installing at the end
  2504. # [20:32] <jlebar> gwagner: so,. when you go to the homescreen while it's installing, we animate the icon?
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  2506. # [20:32] <gwagner> jlebar: yes
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  2509. # [20:32] * jlebar wants to see this
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  2512. # [20:33] <jlebar> ahh
  2513. # [20:33] <jlebar> that's nice looking
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  2515. # [20:33] <jlebar> Too bad we're on crappy hardware
  2516. # [20:33] <@khuey> jimm: so how do I get mozillabuild to pick up the new SDK?
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  2520. # [20:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db9527acf096 - Mark Banner - Bug 863069 - Part 2: Sort lists in moz.build files (mac specific); r=gps
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  2522. # [20:34] <gwagner> jlebar: too bad we don't show the size when we show the installation prompt but I guess it has some MB
  2523. # [20:35] <gwagner> jlebar: takes around a min to install for me
  2524. # [20:35] <jimm> khuey: should already pick it up.
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  2526. # [20:36] <@khuey> jimm: well if it were I wouldn't be asking ...
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  2529. # [20:36] <jlebar> gwagner: it takes a lot longer to install if I'm on the homescreen watching the animation. :)
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  2531. # [20:37] <Ms2ger> dbaron++
  2532. # [20:38] <Waldo> Ms2ger: ^?
  2533. # [20:38] <Ms2ger> Adding a comment that'd been on my todo list
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  2535. # [20:38] <gwagner> jlebar: heh what a fail. with additional feature of missing incoming calls
  2536. # [20:39] <jlebar> gwagner: only for you, though
  2537. # [20:39] <jlebar> gwagner: the guy who's supposed to be investigating them of course cannot reproduce
  2538. # [20:39] <jimm> so our guess script should pick up the 8.0 sdk if it's installed -
  2539. # [20:39] <jimm> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/file/59156d4d5ab2/guess-msvc.bat#l161
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  2542. # [20:39] <jimm> and we landed some changes to the 10 startup script to support 8.0 - https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-build/rev/59156d4d5ab2
  2543. # [20:39] <jimm> khuey: ^
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  2547. # [20:41] <@khuey> oh, I need to update mozillabuild too
  2548. # [20:41] <@khuey> this day just gets better and better
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  2550. # [20:42] <@khuey> oh, it's not even in 1.6.1
  2551. # [20:42] <@khuey> ted: ping!
  2552. # [20:42] <gabor> oh... that's probably the missing step I'm trying to figure out for a while as well
  2553. # [20:42] <@ted> khuey: pong
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  2555. # [20:42] <@khuey> ted: so the SDK that's now required to build trunk isn't supported by the latest release of mozilla-build ...
  2556. # [20:43] <@ted> oh, that's exciting
  2557. # [20:43] <@ted> when did that happen?
  2558. # [20:43] <@khuey> today
  2559. # [20:43] <@ted> that doesn't seem like it was a great plan
  2560. # [20:43] <@khuey> no, it wasn't
  2561. # [20:44] <@ted> anyway i have a 1.7 release candidate that's been sitting for a while because i'm lazy
  2562. # [20:44] * gabor gives up work for today
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  2564. # [20:45] <@khuey> Bas: are you around?
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  2566. # [20:45] <@khuey> Bas: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869868#c9
  2567. # [20:45] <Waldo> annevk: how long are you going to be in SF, incidentally? at some point I should actually take the time to meet you :-)
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  2569. # [20:47] <@ted> khuey: FYI http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/MozillaBuildSetup1.7pre.exe
  2570. # [20:47] <@ted> if you want to just release that we can do that
  2571. # [20:47] <@ted> just clone https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776590
  2572. # [20:48] <jimm> Does Q hang out on irc?
  2573. # [20:48] <jimm> armenzg: ^
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  2575. # [20:48] <@khuey> ted: have people actually tested that?
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  2577. # [20:48] <armenzg> jimm: he does - probably on #releng
  2578. # [20:49] <jimm> armenzg: hey! any chance you could hook me up with the login info for that slave?
  2579. # [20:49] <@ted> khuey: yeah
  2580. # [20:49] <@ted> fairly minor changes
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  2583. # [20:50] <@ted> actually maybe i should change the version to 1.7 and respin it
  2584. # [20:50] <Optimizer> if I have an nsiFile object, how can I get the file:///... uri ?
  2585. # [20:50] <@khuey> ted: heh
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  2587. # [20:51] <@ted> i'll do that, that will pick up ryanvm's python and hg version bumps
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  2590. # [20:53] <armenzg> jimm: yes, I may
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  2595. # [20:54] <gwagner> jlebar: should I investigate the TO installation scenario or do you have a patch for it?
  2596. # [20:55] <jlebar> gwagner: I don't have a patch.
  2597. # [20:55] <glosoli> hmm
  2598. # [20:55] <glosoli> anyone seeing select boxes being rendere
  2599. # [20:55] <jlebar> gwagner: It's...complicated.
  2600. # [20:55] <glosoli> rendered improperly in Nightly
  2601. # [20:55] <glosoli> ?
  2602. # [20:55] <gwagner> jlebar: oh really? :)
  2603. # [20:55] <gwagner> jlebar: I will look at the timing to see when we get notifications and when we process them
  2604. # [20:55] <jlebar> gwagner: We have a number of profiles from different cases, all of which show different things. And I don't know if they're the same bug or not.
  2605. # [20:55] <jlebar> And it's not helped by the fact that I can't seem to reproduce anything.
  2606. # [20:56] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=226897&can=5&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Iteration%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified
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  2609. # [20:56] <Waldo> anyone know: is trap a bash-ism, or a sh-ism that doesn't require bash?
  2610. # [20:57] <gwagner> jlebar: I run into multiple scenarios where my phone becomes super slow. like I found bug 869670 yesterday
  2611. # [20:57] <gwagner> jlebar: are you running with 512MB ram?
  2612. # [20:58] <jlebar> no, I'm on a stock hamachi
  2613. # [20:58] <philor> nbp: bustage
  2614. # [20:58] <jlebar> gwagner: ^
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  2616. # [20:59] <gwagner> jlebar: I will try to reproduce on hamachi
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  2618. # [20:59] <jlebar> gwagner: Thanks.
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  2620. # [21:00] <annevk> Waldo: here until Friday
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  2622. # [21:00] <Waldo> annevk: through Friday, or leaving before it?
  2623. # [21:00] <nbp> philor: backout. it has to land with Bug 869532
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  2625. # [21:00] <annevk> Waldo: prolly most of Friday too
  2626. # [21:00] <nbp> philor: but the patch is not ready yet.
  2627. # [21:00] <Waldo> hmm
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  2629. # [21:00] <Waldo> wonder if my Friday is open to doing that or not
  2630. # [21:01] <annevk> Waldo: going to MV during the weekend and there on Monday
  2631. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/948efc855b5b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 97163e4941f2 (bug 869507) for checktest assertions and crashes.
  2632. # [21:01] <Waldo> annevk: JS team is offsite all next week in Santa Cruz, so Monday's out
  2633. # [21:02] <annevk> Waldo: ah I heard about that
  2634. # [21:02] <Waldo> Sunday I'm pretty busy, not sure about Saturday too much, except I need to pack to head down to SC that day and all
  2635. # [21:02] <sicking> mbrubeck: ping
  2636. # [21:02] <mbrubeck> sicking: pong
  2637. # [21:02] <annevk> Waldo: can't do Saturday
  2638. # [21:02] <Waldo> looks like it's Friday then, depending whether I head up to SF :-)
  2639. # [21:03] <Waldo> I'll poke on IRC if I end up doing that, my evenings this week are uncertain right now, so might not be able to fit it in
  2640. # [21:03] <glosoli> anyone using Nightly ?
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  2644. # [21:03] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Sure, most of us are. ;)
  2645. # [21:03] <glosoli> JosiahOne: do you get select boxes rendered without arrow thing ?
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  2648. # [21:04] <JosiahOne> glosoli: One sec...
  2649. # [21:04] <glosoli> I am not sure how to call that arrow which is like de facto identity of select box
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  2652. # [21:04] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Gotta update. And does platform matter here?
  2653. # [21:04] <NeilAway> Optimizer: nsIIOService::newFileURI
  2654. # [21:05] <Optimizer> yup, got it :)
  2655. # [21:05] <glosoli> JosiahOne: Not sure I only have Mac os x at the moment
  2656. # [21:05] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Okay, that's what I am on.
  2657. # [21:05] <NeilAway> Waldo|lunch: sh has trap
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  2659. # [21:05] <glosoli> JosiahOne: http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/base-css.html for example just search for <select in that page
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  2661. # [21:05] <glosoli> JosiahOne: select boxes are looking just like input fields in the latest Nightly
  2662. # [21:05] <glosoli> at least for me
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  2664. # [21:06] <glosoli> http://imgur.com/RYXEpL9
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  2667. # [21:07] <glandium> Waldo|lunch: as NeilAway says, it's not a bashism. However, if that's in the context of configure, don't use it or be extremely careful: it's used by autoconf under the hood
  2668. # [21:07] <mbrubeck> sicking: pong again? about to head to lunch...
  2669. # [21:07] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Yep, I get that there as well. However, standard <select> elements do not have this issue. E.G. Bugzilla. This is probably because they are using custom styling there.
  2670. # [21:08] <glosoli> JosiahOne: emm
  2671. # [21:09] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Regardless, if it works on other browsers or at least *did* work on Firefox, then we have an issue.
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  2673. # [21:09] <glosoli> it works in others just fine, it worked some time ago in Nightly, but I can't remember the exact date
  2674. # [21:09] <glosoli> :)
  2675. # [21:10] <mbrubeck> We need TCP Fast Open for IRC pings. Don't wait for the pong before sending the data packet...
  2676. # [21:10] <JosiahOne> glosoli: File a bug please. :)
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  2678. # [21:10] <JosiahOne> And if we could find a tighter regression range that would be preferred.
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  2682. # [21:11] <JosiahOne> Oh, and verify on other platforms.
  2683. # [21:11] <glosoli> I don't have other platforms
  2684. # [21:11] <glosoli> :)
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  2686. # [21:11] <glosoli> though been asking here couple of times
  2687. # [21:11] <glosoli> you are only one who answered at all
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  2689. # [21:11] <JosiahOne> glosoli: That's fine, file a bug, Cc me, and I'll test on Windows and Linux a little later. Gotta run right now though.
  2690. # [21:11] <glosoli> Anyway filling the bug :)
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  2693. # [21:14] <glosoli> JosiahOne|Away: ah how do I add you ?
  2694. # [21:15] <jlebar> gwagner: can you test this with a patch, if I prepare one for you?
  2695. # [21:15] <jlebar> gwagner: or maybe a git branch?
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  2697. # [21:16] <glosoli> ah added :)
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  2709. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3d5bcc17aa40 - Chris Double - Bug 853522 - Backout changeset e988bcfd097c - r=jacob a=bajaj
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  2716. # [21:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7003849feda0 - Amod Narvekar<amod.narvekar@gmail.com> - Bug 224315 - Poor grammar in 'is a:' message on unknown content type window. r=jaws
  2717. # [21:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3dea7cce5f64 - Terrence Cole - Bug 869234 - No need for barriers on the LIR constant pool. r=bhackett
  2718. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25bce82749bc - Terrence Cole - Bug 869222 - Allow GC things embedded in IonScript to move. r=dvander
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  2721. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54986162d9bd - Terrence Cole - Bug 863808 - Implement a store buffer for marking whole objects. r=billm
  2722. # [21:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a15fae0ee76e - Terrence Cole - Bug 868610 - Do not use the arena header when cloning object literals. r=billm
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  2743. # [21:45] <froydnj> mbrubeck: some people advocate not even pinging, just ask the question straightaway
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  2745. # [21:45] <mbrubeck> yeah, exactly
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  2748. # [21:46] <glosoli> hmm
  2749. # [21:46] <glosoli> Nightly went mad
  2750. # [21:46] <glosoli> SkyDrive is broken doh ;d
  2751. # [21:46] <jlebar> gwagner: fwiw I just successfully reproduced. I don't know what the difference was.
  2752. # [21:46] <jlebar> hsivonen: ping
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  2760. # [21:50] <@bz> safe to check in?
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  2762. # [21:51] <@ted> khuey, RyanVM: http://people.mozilla.com/~tmielczarek/MozillaBuildSetup1.7.exe
  2763. # [21:51] <RyanVM> bz: depends on what you're landing :D
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  2766. # [21:52] <@bz> RyanVM: inbound things
  2767. # [21:52] <RyanVM> never hurts to try
  2768. # [21:52] <@bz> RyanVM: some jit IC stuff, some security bits
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  2770. # [21:52] <RyanVM> no known bustage atm
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  2772. # [21:52] <@bz> RyanVM: should fix the "click on tbpl letter loads log" thing. ;)
  2773. # [21:53] <firebot> Check-in:
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  2775. # [21:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b61e721b78af - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 869040. Fix ion IC for non-overridebuiltins named gets on ListBase proxies to not cache lack of a property when it's just missing on the prototype. r=djvj
  2776. # [21:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1041ccc5475 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 867863. Be a little more careful in GlobalObject initialization. r=peterv
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  2780. # [21:53] <philor> whee, I might even remember to flip ion.content back if I only have to remember until tomorrow
  2781. # [21:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a23eea95bf64 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 868342 - (Part 2) Get rid of displayTitle variable. r=wesj
  2782. # [21:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c8df5e637a2 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 868342 - (Part 1) Fix NPE in BrowserToolbar.setTitle. r=wesj
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  2789. # [21:56] <RyanVM> bz++
  2790. # [21:57] <RyanVM> bz: wasn't affecting me much, personally, though
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  2792. # [21:57] <csmedberg> How long does it/should it take to clone git mozilla-central, and is there an equivalent to hg bundles to get started?
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  2794. # [21:57] <RyanVM> bz: I tend to be a mostly keyboard commando on tbpl
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  2796. # [21:58] <jlebar> csmedberg: an hour or two?
  2797. # [21:58] <jlebar> csmedberg: I guess I could host a bundle; that's not a bad idea.
  2798. # [21:58] <csmedberg> jlebar: is that gated on download speed? I'm not on a super-fast mozilla network ;-)
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  2800. # [21:59] <jlebar> csmedberg: It is a few gb, yes. I don't know if it's gated on dl speed or on github or what.
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  2802. # [21:59] <csmedberg> right now I'm still at "remote: Counting objects: 3444972"
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  2804. # [21:59] <jlebar> csmedberg: that probably isn't downloading just yet.
  2805. # [21:59] * RyanVM looks for what mixedpuppy push he can backout to make bug 868886 go away
  2806. # [21:59] <secretrobotron> ehsan: think i found a bug http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7054348/Screenshots/28.png :P
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  2808. # [22:00] <jlebar> csmedberg: which repo are you downloading?
  2809. # [22:00] <RyanVM> better yet, that bug has an r+ed patch
  2810. # [22:00] <csmedberg> jlebar: github/mozilla/mozilla-central
  2811. # [22:00] <mixedpuppy> RyanVM: I was waiting for inbound to open again
  2812. # [22:00] <jlebar> csmedberg: good. (I wanted to make sure you're not using the git.mozilla.org one, which is ungood.)
  2813. # [22:01] <mixedpuppy> and look at that, it's open
  2814. # [22:01] <RyanVM> mixedpuppy, I just put that patch in my queue
  2815. # [22:01] <RyanVM> but I'm happy to let you do the honors
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  2817. # [22:01] <jesup> RyanVM: so, I've noticed bug 857538 (nsThread leak with 1 runnable) has been getting a lot more common (browser-chrome)
  2818. # [22:01] <RyanVM> jesup: indeed
  2819. # [22:01] * juanb|lunch is now known as juanb
  2820. # [22:02] <jesup> Do we have any suspects?
  2821. # [22:02] <RyanVM> clearly our top men are on it
  2822. # [22:02] <RyanVM> all I know is what I see in the bug
  2823. # [22:02] <@bz> philor: ;)
  2824. # [22:02] <jesup> Given my previous experience, I have suspicions about the type of thing that leads to this
  2825. # [22:02] <jesup> ;-)
  2826. # [22:02] * jesup is glad he doesn't have any tests in browser-chrome
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  2829. # [22:03] <mixedpuppy> RyanVM: that is on inbound now
  2830. # [22:03] <RyanVM> bz: how convenient that a pgo run would kick off right after your push...
  2831. # [22:03] <RyanVM> doobie doobie doo...
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  2833. # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14417f00ec41 - Shane Caraveo - bug 868886 fix intermittent test failure with socialmark tests, r=felipe
  2834. # [22:04] <RyanVM> mixedpuppy: thank you good sir
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  2838. # [22:05] <RyanVM> philor: shouldn't the win64 pgo builds have stopped kicking off by now?
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  2840. # [22:06] <csmedberg> jlebar: turns out that after counting and compression (which took 15 minutes or so), there's 3.4G of data to download
  2841. # [22:06] <@dolske> should I be concerned by TBPL hanging at 9% loading the page for my try push?
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  2844. # [22:06] <jlebar> csmedberg: My bundle is only 826mb. I /think/ it has everything.
  2845. # [22:06] <csmedberg> hrm
  2846. # [22:06] <mbrubeck> dolske: link?
  2847. # [22:06] <csmedberg> jlebar: what's the bundle command?
  2848. # [22:06] <jlebar> csmedberg: I'm uploading it now. I'm on a fast connection, so give me 5m or so.
  2849. # [22:07] <jlebar> csmedberg: git bundle
  2850. # [22:07] <jesup> RyanVM: reviewing, it appears it's the profiler - mccr8 isolated it to that but benwa didn't pick up the ball
  2851. # [22:07] <RyanVM> joe: ping
  2852. # [22:07] <mbrubeck> dolske: Usually means that one of the back-end services in not responding, but I'm not seeing problems in general.
  2853. # [22:07] <joe> RyanVM: hi
  2854. # [22:07] <jesup> let me root around a little
  2855. # [22:07] <jlebar> csmedberg: it would be interesting to see whether this is faster for you. If it's not, we of course shouldn't recommend it to anyone.
  2856. # [22:07] <RyanVM> joe: I can't do anything with bug 868066 until it has blocking status
  2857. # [22:07] <@dolske> mbrubeck: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=5df6490b77ec
  2858. # [22:07] <joe> RyanVM: ok, let me see if I can get someone to enblock it
  2859. # [22:07] <joe> overholt: ^
  2860. # [22:07] <mbrubeck> dolske: Fails for me too. Web Console, Activate..!
  2861. # [22:08] <csmedberg> I'm getting 1MB/s from github, so it's actually not going to take that long this way
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  2864. # [22:08] <philor> RyanVM: 302 catlee-buildduty, I thought it looked at things that had actually run in the last two weeks, but maybe it looks at things that have been scheduled, so we would have to go two weeks without ever triggering PGO, which will never happen
  2865. # [22:08] <mbrubeck> dolske: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/json-pushes?full=1&changeset=5df6490b77ec is the hanging request...
  2866. # [22:08] <jlebar> okay, that's good!
  2867. # [22:08] <RyanVM> philor: yikes
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  2870. # [22:08] <RyanVM> philor: I see that the android noion builds seem to have finally disappeared
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  2872. # [22:09] <RyanVM> noion nightlies that is
  2873. # [22:09] <philor> RyanVM: nope, I killed one this morning
  2874. # [22:09] <mbrubeck> http://hg.mozilla.org/try/pushloghtml?changeset=5df6490b77ec is also unhappy... what did you push, dolske? ;)
  2875. # [22:09] <RyanVM> nvm then
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  2878. # [22:09] <RyanVM> doublec: ping
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  2881. # [22:10] <jlebar> csmedberg: That's still an hour, and if you get as fast a downlink to people.mozilla.org, we can do it in ~1/4 that time.
  2882. # [22:10] <RyanVM> doublec: unping
  2883. # [22:10] <csmedberg> yep
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  2886. # [22:10] <mbrubeck> it's not just dolske's push; all Try pushlog requests for specific changesets are failing for me
  2887. # [22:11] <mbrubeck> even https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/9d741e0dfa08 is failing
  2888. # [22:11] <joe> yeah
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  2890. # [22:11] <joe> something is very unhappy on try
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  2894. # [22:12] <jlebar> csmedberg: anyway, if you want to try, the file is people.mozilla.org/~jlebar/mozilla-central.bundle
  2895. # [22:12] <jlebar> csmedberg: I think you can then git clone /path/to/mozilla-central.bundle
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  2899. # [22:12] <jlebar> csmedberg: then add a remote to github, git fetch, and you should be good.
  2900. # [22:12] <glosoli> JosiahOne: you here ?
  2901. # [22:12] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Yep.
  2902. # [22:13] * jhammel|brunch is now known as jhammel
  2903. # [22:13] <glosoli> JosiahOne: hmm got another problem which might be somehow related, do you have SkyDrive ?
  2904. # [22:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0182997de0f4 - Robert Strong - Windows installer only - Bug 868746 - Installer should quote the 'uninstallstring' registry value in case a non OS builtin app uses the value. r=bbondy
  2905. # [22:13] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Just verified it does not happen on Linux, checking windows next...
  2906. # [22:13] <glosoli> JosiahOne: I am loading Windows 8 in my Parallels virtual to check too
  2907. # [22:13] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Maybe I do. :)
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  2910. # [22:14] <JosiahOne> glosoli: I have so many accounts I don't remember what I have these days. Let me check.
  2911. # [22:14] <glosoli> JosiahOne: aah was gonna say drag n drop stopped working but restarting ff did it
  2912. # [22:14] <catlee-mtg> IT is aware of try being sad and are working on it
  2913. # [22:15] <gwagner> jlebar: sorry just got back from lunch
  2914. # [22:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ee620315ad4 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 849847 - Make about:home scrollable with the analog stick. r=Cwiiis
  2915. # [22:15] <jlebar> gwagner: no, it's okay, I'm not ready for you just yet. :)
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  2918. # [22:16] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Oh, so there is no issue with Skydrive then?
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  2920. # [22:16] <glosoli> JosiahOne: yeah, gone hmm
  2921. # [22:16] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Well alrighty then. Wonderful!
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  2924. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb709d42a984 - Kyle Huey - Merge again.
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  2926. # [22:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24d361942d24 - Kyle Huey - Back out bug 830347.
  2927. # [22:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/570a6739752c - Kyle Huey - Merge backout of bug 830347.
  2928. # [22:17] <glosoli> JosiahOne: windows fine with select box
  2929. # [22:18] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Okay, so it is OS X only then.
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  2932. # [22:18] <BenWa> jesup: which bug is this?
  2933. # [22:19] <glosoli> JosiahOne: yep ;/ which makes me wonder..
  2934. # [22:19] <@khuey> RyanVM: the multiple merges?
  2935. # [22:19] <@khuey> or something else?
  2936. # [22:19] <RyanVM> yeah
  2937. # [22:19] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Now we need a regression range.
  2938. # [22:19] <glosoli> WHat's a regression range
  2939. # [22:19] <@khuey> RyanVM: inbound was closed the first time, then I went to lunch
  2940. # [22:19] <RyanVM> khuey: did you see Ted's link for the updated mozillabuild?
  2941. # [22:19] <jesup> benwa: bug 857538
  2942. # [22:20] <@khuey> RyanVM: I did
  2943. # [22:20] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Version problem started -> Last version it was last seen (In this case, the current version)
  2944. # [22:20] <RyanVM> khuey: so if 1.7 is officially out and works properly, why the backout?
  2945. # [22:20] <glosoli> JosiahOne: Nightly updates every day ;/
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  2947. # [22:20] <fabrice1> RyanVM: are you also uplifting the approval-b2g18 patches?
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  2951. # [22:20] <RyanVM> khuey: xp support I guess?
  2952. # [22:21] <RyanVM> fabrice1: of course
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  2954. # [22:21] <BenWa> jesup: To be fair it's not a profiler problem but a problem with the event tracing system we use. But I'll look at it when I get time
  2955. # [22:21] <Waldo> NeilAway, glandium: not configure, just a shell script, no worries -- thanks
  2956. # [22:21] <jesup> The key bit to know is that any thread (pthread, PR_Thread, etc) that calls GetCurrentThread (IIRC) gets promoted to an nsThread. For example, if from a pthread you DISPATCH_SYNC to some other thread, you get promoted, and DISPATCH_SYNC doesn't *always* clear out the runnable when it comes back (it assumes you're processing your event queue)
  2957. # [22:21] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Yep, that's what makes it difficult. We have a tool to figure out a range though.
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  2959. # [22:22] <jesup> This is why we created the SyncRunnable class to stand in for DISPATCH_SYNC
  2960. # [22:22] <BenWa> jesup: We should be doing all that from the main thread I think
  2961. # [22:23] <jesup> (I had a patch to "fix" DISPATCH_SYNC, but we went another way)
  2962. # [22:23] <JosiahOne> glosoli: http://mozilla.github.io/mozregression/
  2963. # [22:23] <jlebar> gwagner: do you prefer patches, or a git branch?
  2964. # [22:23] <jesup> Well, likely the EventTracer PR_Thread is getting promoted somehow
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  2966. # [22:23] <jesup> given mccr8's analysis
  2967. # [22:23] <BenWa> jesup: And how do you fix a thread that is promotoed?
  2968. # [22:23] <gwagner> jlebar: for gaia I prefer a branch I can check out
  2969. # [22:23] <BenWa> release something somehow?
  2970. # [22:23] <jlebar> gwagner: gecko
  2971. # [22:24] <jesup> Process any events in the queue
  2972. # [22:24] <gwagner> jlebar: for gecko a patch
  2973. # [22:24] <glosoli> JosiahOne: "This will guide you through a bisection, automatically downloading and opening nightly builds from various dates (on new, clean profiles) and asking you whether the bug exists in them. After doing this a few times you'll get the regression range, something " sounds like it will populate my precious user files
  2974. # [22:24] <BenWa> jesup: You mean make sure that no events are pending before shutting down?
  2975. # [22:24] <jesup> Though to do so, you need to know if you have an nsThread... see the nsThreadManager
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  2977. # [22:24] <jlebar> gwagner: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2385624
  2978. # [22:24] <jesup> BenWa: yes
  2979. # [22:24] <BenWa> Umm, ok
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  2981. # [22:25] <jlebar> gwagner: this applies atop "Bug 866825 - Initialize nsDOMSVGZoomEvent::m{Previous,New}Scale; r=smaug a=bajaj" on b2gg18
  2982. # [22:25] <jesup> Normally a raw PR_Thread doesn't need to process events
  2983. # [22:25] <jlebar> gwagner: this significantly reduces the delay on my machine
  2984. # [22:25] <BenWa> is TBPL not working ATM?
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  2986. # [22:25] <mbrubeck> BenWa: Known problems on Try...
  2987. # [22:25] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Hmm... I don't actually know what happens. Haven't used it for awhile. I believe it deletes the files afterwards, but I can't be sure. How much storage do you have?
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  2989. # [22:26] <jesup> You can breakpoint in nsThreadManager on the upconversion to find out where and why it's being upconverted - that's the other solution; avoid upconversion
  2990. # [22:26] <glosoli> JosiahOne: that's not the question of storage, but of my idiotically designed brains which are scared to have any possible junk in computer ;d
  2991. # [22:26] <jesup> benwa: ^
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  2995. # [22:27] <JosiahOne> glosoli: That's fair. :)
  2996. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fae8d9338eb5 - Terrence Cole - Bug 777548 - Make non-cc-participant tracing indirect; r=smaug,billm,jst
  2997. # [22:27] <glosoli> JosiahOne: anyway will give it a try when I finish doing some documenting for college projects.. ;/
  2998. # [22:27] <BenWa> ok
  2999. # [22:28] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Great! Thanks.
  3000. # [22:28] <glosoli> JosiahOne: well that would be good to me too, became daily Nightly user, wouldn't like to switch to Aurora just for that small bug ;d
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  3003. # [22:29] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Nightly is the way to go. :)
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  3005. # [22:30] <glosoli> JosiahOne: just a bit scared that the thing is affecting only one platform, giving great change at expanding time required to fix it
  3006. # [22:30] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Perhaps.
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  3009. # [22:33] <jesup> benwa: if you ahve any questions or could use any help, please just ping me
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  3015. # [22:34] <JosiahOne> glosoli: Cool, well, let me know your results in the bug. I have to go.
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  3017. # [22:34] <glosoli> JosiahOne|Away: Okay will comment in the bug report
  3018. # [22:35] <JosiahOne|Away> glosoli: Thanks!
  3019. # [22:35] <glosoli> np! :)
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  3021. # [22:35] <msucan> try server issues?
  3022. # [22:36] <msucan> trying to push and it stays at searching for changes
  3023. # [22:36] <msucan> and an older try push for which i am waiting results .... page fails to load. it's stuck at loading 9%
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  3028. # [22:38] <RyanVM> msucan: known issue
  3029. # [22:38] <RyanVM> msucan: IT's on it
  3030. # [22:38] <msucan> thanks
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  3032. # [22:38] <msucan> will push to try tomorrow then
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  3038. # [22:40] <RyanVM> or just push to inbound now, what's the difference? :P
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  3040. # [22:41] <RyanVM> actually, you already have your own tree to burn
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  3052. # [22:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d986ae112cb6 - L. David Baron - Remove SimpleTest.expectAssertions() call now that bug 846137 is fixed. No review.
  3053. # [22:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a20ea0d494a0 - L. David Baron - Bug 868751: Remove support for obsolete document.createEvent("AnimationEvent"), document.createEvent("TransitionEvent"), AnimationEvent.initAnimationEvent, and
  3054. # [22:47] <firebot> TransitionEvent.initTransitionEvent. r=smaug
  3055. # [22:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c51eab92e5cb - Geoff Brown - Bug 870056 - Enable robocop testClearPrivateData; r=jmaher
  3056. # [22:48] <gwagner> jlebar|afk: that works pretty well!
  3057. # [22:49] <mbrubeck> !seen sicking
  3058. # [22:49] <firebot> sicking was last seen 1 hour, 46 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying 'mbrubeck: ping' in #developers.
  3059. # [22:50] <gwagner> jlebar|afk: but now the download of the app fails
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  3061. # [22:50] <jlebar|afk> gwagner: lol!
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  3063. # [22:50] <jimm> RyanVM: along with that compositor back, 2d98636bc27b has to come out too
  3064. # [22:51] <jimm> *backout
  3065. # [22:51] <jlebar> gwagner: Does it say why it fails?
  3066. # [22:51] <jlebar> gwagner: timeout?
  3067. # [22:51] <jimm> I guess I can do it
  3068. # [22:51] <RyanVM> jimm: tell that to khuey
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  3070. # [22:52] <RyanVM> jimm: khuey: of course, that kind of bones my ability to do an inbound merge any time soon today
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  3072. # [22:52] <gwagner> jlebar: good question. whatever this log means: E/GeckoConsole( 438): Content JS LOG at https://marketplace.cdn.mozilla.net/media/js/mkt/consumer-min.js?build=bf8a15a:5 in anonymous: Error code:
  3073. # [22:52] <RyanVM> jimm: unless you don't mind 2d98636bc27b hitting m-c (and likely tomorrow's nightly) and then bouncing back out a day later
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  3075. # [22:53] <gwagner> jlebar: I guess I broke the installation routine because now I can't install the app any more even without a call
  3076. # [22:53] <jimm> RyanVM: I think it might burn windows builds
  3077. # [22:53] <jimm> backing it out
  3078. # [22:54] <RyanVM> it being khuey's push?
  3079. # [22:54] <jimm> yeah it might.
  3080. # [22:54] <jlebar> bz: this is the patch: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2385624
  3081. # [22:54] <jimm> just backed it out
  3082. # [22:55] <RyanVM> jimm, how strongly do you feel about my question?
  3083. # [22:55] <@khuey> ted: did you file a bug on pushing that live?
  3084. # [22:55] <jlebar> bz: Maybe you can try it? It seems to work pretty well for me on many of the testcases. I haven't tried the process-buster testcase yet; that was the one where it didn't seem to have an effect, last time we tested.
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  3086. # [22:55] <jlebar> bz: I can give you a git branch if that's easier.
  3087. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d517c04f97ec - Jim Mathies - merge
  3088. # [22:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d180d194b57 - Jim Mathies - backout Bug 869936 which relies on bug 830347.
  3089. # [22:56] <@bz> jlebar: patch is fine
  3090. # [22:56] <jimm> um
  3091. # [22:56] <@bz> jlebar: I can certainly try it on the bit I can reproduce...
  3092. # [22:56] * @bz gives it a shot
  3093. # [22:56] <gwagner> jlebar: well let me check if the marketplace is down
  3094. # [22:57] <jimm> RyanVM: I don't think mozilla::layers::LAYERS_D3D11 was defined without Bas's origina work, which khuey backed out.
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  3096. # [22:57] <RyanVM> jimm: you're misunderstanding
  3097. # [22:57] <jimm> do I'm guessing it burns
  3098. # [22:57] <jimm> *so
  3099. # [22:57] <RyanVM> my plan was to merge a cset prior to the backout
  3100. # [22:57] <RyanVM> but after your push
  3101. # [22:57] <RyanVM> i can't do that now
  3102. # [22:57] <RyanVM> unless you don't mind your push landing on m-c and being in a nightly for a day
  3103. # [22:57] <RyanVM> and then going away agian
  3104. # [22:57] <jimm> oh sorry, misunderstood.
  3105. # [22:58] <jimm> I don't mind that as long as it lands with Bas's work.
  3106. # [22:58] <RyanVM> i've triggered a pgo run on your backout now
  3107. # [22:58] <RyanVM> i'm going to up late watching hockey tonight anyway
  3108. # [22:58] <jimm> are you saying the second landing would land on mc with khuey's backout?
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  3110. # [22:59] <RyanVM> second landing?
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  3112. # [22:59] <jimm> hockey, pfft, watching inbound is far more exciting.
  3113. # [22:59] * @bz kicks off a build
  3114. # [22:59] <jimm> RyanVM: meaning 2d98636bc27b
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  3116. # [23:00] <RyanVM> jimm: i'm just going wait out the pgo run on your backout and (hopefully) use that as the tip revision for the next merge
  3117. # [23:00] <RyanVM> but it'll be 4-5 hours before that's all said and done
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  3120. # [23:00] <RyanVM> otherwise, 2d98636bc27b would have been in the next merge to m-c
  3121. # [23:00] <RyanVM> and probalby in tomorrow's nightly
  3122. # [23:01] <RyanVM> and khuey's (and yours) backouts would have been merged to m-c tomorrow
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  3124. # [23:01] <RyanVM> and on Friday's nightly
  3125. # [23:01] <RyanVM> so 2d98636bc27b would be in a nightly for a day, and then back out again
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  3127. # [23:02] <jimm> RyanVM: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24d361942d24#l1.12
  3128. # [23:03] <RyanVM> jesup: any idea what to make of Bug 870002?
  3129. # [23:03] <jimm> so khuey's backout will burn on windows
  3130. # [23:03] <jimm> and my backout will fix it.
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  3133. # [23:03] <RyanVM> fun
  3134. # [23:03] <jesup> RyanVM: looking at it; lack of a backtrace really hurts
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  3136. # [23:03] <RyanVM> jesup: some sort of oom?
  3137. # [23:04] <RyanVM> you probably saw that the retriggers on roc's push were all ok
  3138. # [23:04] <RyanVM> i suppose we could try more
  3139. # [23:04] <overholt> RyanVM, joe: bug 868066 is tef+ now.
  3140. # [23:04] <joe> overholt: hooray
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  3142. # [23:04] <RyanVM> jimm: It's moot at this point. I'll just wait for the pgo runs to finish on your backout and merge that to m-c
  3143. # [23:04] <overholt> joe, sorry for the lag, I was in a meeting
  3144. # [23:04] <gwagner> jlebar: now it worked!
  3145. # [23:05] <jlebar> gwagner: !!
  3146. # [23:05] <gwagner> jlebar: just needed a reboot and reset-gaia :)
  3147. # [23:05] <RyanVM> joe: I'll land it next time I'm doing uplifts
  3148. # [23:05] <@ted> khuey: no, feel free
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  3150. # [23:05] <jlebar> gwagner: Okay, I will put together a nice patch. While I'm doing that, would you mind filing a separate bug for your specific testcase? I don't want to continue conflating these various testcases, since some may be different.
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  3152. # [23:06] <gwagner> jlebar: sure. I will test 2-3 more times
  3153. # [23:06] <jlebar> gwagner: great
  3154. # [23:06] <RyanVM> jimm: it's a real kick in the pants that the win8 sdk doesn't support xp
  3155. # [23:06] <RyanVM> jimm: sounds like we're going to have to go the ifdef route eventually
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  3158. # [23:07] <RyanVM> does --with-platform-version or whatever the mozconfig option was still work?
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  3160. # [23:07] <RyanVM> ted ^
  3161. # [23:07] <jimm> meh
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  3163. # [23:07] <jimm> xp is dead.
  3164. # [23:07] <joe> RyanVM: no hurry
  3165. # [23:08] <RyanVM> jimm: interesting that our server 2k3 builders don't have issues
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  3168. # [23:08] <jimm> afaik, we do all windows builds on server 2008
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  3170. # [23:10] <jimm> sheesh, we still have 45 million adus on XP.
  3171. # [23:10] <jimm> what the hell are those people thinking?
  3172. # [23:10] <jesup> RyanVM: All 3 hits are windows so far. 2 opt, 1 debug. No syms on any.... :-( Ted? maybe retriggering longer might hit, but there's no reason to think we'll get symbols on that
  3173. # [23:10] <RyanVM> jimm: then our builders are lying about being NT 5.2
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  3175. # [23:11] <RyanVM> jesup: it would hopefully at least confirm the culprit
  3176. # [23:11] <csmedberg> jimm: I would not expect that number to fall in the next few years as we actively target emerging markets
  3177. # [23:12] <gwagner> jlebar: gah no it doesn't work. I guess I had the communication app open when I tried. now it doesn't work any more. that's the log cat: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2385704
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  3179. # [23:12] <jesup> RyanVM: yeah, maybe, assuming no other recent change is involved. I'm less interested in which push is at fault (roc's is likely) as how we get a handle on tracking it down
  3180. # [23:13] <gwagner> jlebar: so it works great is the phone app is already open but when we have to create it I don't receive the call
  3181. # [23:13] <jimm> RyanVM: chatting with armen in another channel, he says the only branch still using 2k3 is esr.
  3182. # [23:13] <jlebar> gwagner: okay, well...that's something.
  3183. # [23:13] <jlebar> gwagner: Without the patch, if you have the comm app open, do you receive a call?
  3184. # [23:13] <RyanVM> jimm: good to know
  3185. # [23:13] <gwagner> jlebar: let me try
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  3187. # [23:14] <jlebar> gwagner: also, next time you get a logcat, can you do |adb logcat -v time|, so we can get timestamps? And maybe you started capturing this too late, because I don't see the printf I added in the ril worker code.
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  3190. # [23:14] <jlebar> gwagner: I wish I could reproduce this myself; thanks for helping.
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  3193. # [23:15] <jimm> csmedberg: our xp install base has fallen 37% in the last year. I seriously doubt we'll have to worry about xp for much longer. although we will continue to support it. but I don't think we need to support *building* firefox on it at all.
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  3195. # [23:15] * jld tries to understand the difference between //git.mozilla.org/releases/gecko.git branch gecko-18 and //github.com/mozilla/mozilla-central.git branch b2g18.
  3196. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/061c33f0e984 - Chris Peterson - Bug 828563 - Return the most recent location, not the most accurate provider's most recent location. r=blassey
  3197. # [23:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/814044b7f853 - Chris Peterson - Bug 863154 - Part 1: Catch Bitmap OOMs when decoding streams. r=mfinkle
  3198. # [23:15] <jlebar> jld: they should be the same.
  3199. # [23:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae87f942ac08 - Chris Peterson - Bug 863154 - Part 2: Catch Bitmap OOMs when decoding resources. r=mfinkle
  3200. # [23:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05a6210472f1 - Chris Peterson - Bug 834033 - Part 1: Install Push and WebSocket components on Android. r=blassey
  3201. # [23:16] <jld> jlebar: git-rev-parse on the ... of their respective heads is, um, interesting.
  3202. # [23:16] <jlebar> jld: completely different hashes
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  3204. # [23:16] <jlebar> jld: Completely different translations of cvs.
  3205. # [23:16] <jdm> because choice is good
  3206. # [23:16] <jld> jlebar: Apparently their history dags connect in six different places.
  3207. # [23:16] <jlebar> You really don't want to get me started.
  3208. # [23:17] <jlebar> jld: That's cool.
  3209. # [23:17] <glosoli> Moz regression works really stupidly... doh
  3210. # [23:17] <jld> I mean, that or else rev-parse is just deeply confused.
  3211. # [23:17] <jlebar> My life is a lot better when I can pretend that git.m.o doesn't exist.
  3212. # [23:17] <@bz> heh
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  3215. # [23:18] * jlebar feels himself getting started, despite his warning.
  3216. # [23:18] <jld> The usual GUI tools do not scale very well to 600000 commits.
  3217. # [23:18] <RyanVM> jimm: there's the red you were expecting. I've gone ahead and canceled the other running windows builds
  3218. # [23:18] <gwagner> jlebar: hm it's in there. line 248
  3219. # [23:18] * RyanVM starts poking jlebar with a stick
  3220. # [23:18] <jlebar> gwagner: indeed
  3221. # [23:18] <jlebar> Interesting.
  3222. # [23:18] <jld> Trying to extract useful info form rev-list seems to wind up with me staring at "free the lizard" a lot.
  3223. # [23:18] <RyanVM> jlebar: so about that proposal to switch?
  3224. # [23:18] <jld> s/form/from
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  3226. # [23:19] <@bz> jld: heh
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  3229. # [23:19] <jlebar> RyanVM: If all of mozilla switches to git, I imagine that release engineering will treat it as more of a priority than they do today.
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  3231. # [23:19] <glosoli> JosiahOne|Away: Sorry, I can't test it, mozregression tool crashes :))
  3232. # [23:20] <jlebar> RyanVM: There are other developer-hostile actions they've taken, but those are in the past, and over the past year, we've gotten most of them reversed. To say that it's been pulling teeth does not begin to describe that process.
  3233. # [23:20] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: look at bug 694254 at all lately? It's disabling is slowly riding the trains to running nowhere.
  3234. # [23:21] <jlebar> gwagner: So the million-dollar question is, is the lag before or after line 211 in your log?
  3235. # [23:21] <gwagner> jlebar: the same log with timing: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2385735
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  3238. # [23:22] <jld> I think the only notable git mirror divergence that happened at my ex-job (mirorring a very large p4 depot) was a submodules vs. monolithic thing, and that was before there were any official git mirrors.
  3239. # [23:22] <RyanVM> KWierso|Home: one for you to file - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22744110&tree=Birch
  3240. # [23:23] <@bz> jlebar: this totally fixes the ~1s lag I was seeing between the log message and the ring
  3241. # [23:24] <@bz> jlebar: on your testcase
  3242. # [23:24] <@bz> jlebar: "this" == "your patch"
  3243. # [23:24] <jlebar> gwagner: in that log, the communications app gets high priority and then drops back down less than 500ms later.
  3244. # [23:25] <jlebar> bz: okay, this is great. We should land this patch and see how many other things it improves.
  3245. # [23:25] <gwagner> jlebar: it feels like the app starts when the call is already over
  3246. # [23:25] <@bz> jlebar: agreed
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  3249. # [23:26] <jdm> jlebar: is this the IPC pausing patch?
  3250. # [23:26] <jlebar> gwagner: This may be the dreaded "gecko doesn't get notified early enough" failure modality, then.
  3251. # [23:26] <jlebar> gwagner: Because the communications app being loaded seems to be happening pretty early; it happens before my printf in the ril worker. :)
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  3253. # [23:26] <jlebar> jdm: It's an older patch to renice non-telephony processes.
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  3255. # [23:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a8c7cd83f22 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 869685 - Reintroduce long long support in CheckedInt - r=Waldo
  3256. # [23:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e725c1aa589d - Benoit Jacob - Bug 869194 - CheckedInt should consistently reject unsupported types - r=Waldo
  3257. # [23:27] <gwagner> jlebar: brb
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  3261. # [23:27] <cpearce> what are "Bq" builds on Try tbpl, and why are they on Try but not on other branches?
  3262. # [23:28] <cpearce> And should I care if they're failing on a Try push?
  3263. # [23:29] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: not really, I more or less delete mail for that bug without reading at this point :/
  3264. # [23:29] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: but I'm not sure what you mean is disabling the test not working on release branches or something?
  3265. # [23:29] <cpearce> Is Ehsan on holiday or something?
  3266. # [23:29] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: hey, if the a11y team doesn't mind, I don't particuarly either
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  3268. # [23:29] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: I just mean that the disabling is riding the trains to the point where it's not running anywhere
  3269. # [23:30] <jimm> cpearce: he was just around an hour or so ago
  3270. # [23:30] <cpearce> jimm: ok, thanks.
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  3276. # [23:31] <philor> cpearce: b2g desktop, hidden elsewhere because you can barely tell whether they fail from a gecko commit or from a gaia commit because they pull the tip of a billion separate external repos, so whether you should worry about their color depends on whether you're breaking them
  3277. # [23:31] <seth> mbrubeck: so i seem to recall you saying that we'd get talos results mailed after every 13 builds
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  3279. # [23:31] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: maybe I should see if mccr8 has some more time to look at it now, but I'm not really sure how to debug it
  3280. # [23:31] <cpearce> philor: ok thanks.
  3281. # [23:31] <RyanVM> philor: so that'll be changing soon at least
  3282. # [23:31] <RyanVM> at least the blame should be more clear
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  3284. # [23:32] <mccr8> that 2 DOMWindows thing? I already have one unsolvable intermittent orange on my plate. ;)
  3285. # [23:32] <RyanVM> nice answer
  3286. # [23:32] <mbrubeck> seth: Yeah, one there are 13 points following yours in the same series, then the analyzer will be able to test it and decide whether to flag it as a regression or not.
  3287. # [23:32] <mbrubeck> s/one/once/
  3288. # [23:32] <tbsaunde> mccr8: yeah, its the punishment for being good at deebuging leaks :)
  3289. # [23:33] <mccr8> I've only ever identified two leaks involving nsThread. ;)
  3290. # [23:33] <@bz> jlebar: ok
  3291. # [23:34] <@bz> jlebar: So we're left with gwagner's stuff?
  3292. # [23:34] <seth> mbrubeck: just curious if something is wrong. so far i haven't gotten an email from my push yesterday, and when i try to manually inspect the data with perf-o-matic i get an error "could not download test run data from server"
  3293. # [23:34] <jlebar> bz: and possibly the nytimes testcase
  3294. # [23:34] <jlebar> bz: and probably the process-buster testcase
  3295. # [23:34] <@bz> jlebar: heh
  3296. # [23:34] <tbsaunde> mccr8: and how many cc leaks? ;-)
  3297. # [23:34] <RyanVM> philor: KWierso|Home: time to hand things off for awhile
  3298. # [23:34] * @bz tries the membuster thing
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  3300. # [23:34] <jld> So, even if I cut off all six confluence points between b2g18 and gecko-18, there are still paths which reach (different!) instances of "Free the lizard".
  3301. # [23:35] <RyanVM|afk> philor: hockey game tonight, so I'll be up late
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  3303. # [23:35] <mbrubeck> seth: What push?
  3304. # [23:35] <jlebar> jld: different imports of CVS...
  3305. # [23:35] <@bz> jld: importing from CVS is hard. :(
  3306. # [23:35] <philor> god bless hockey, something I've never said before
  3307. # [23:35] <jlebar> They were intentionally different.
  3308. # [23:35] <RyanVM|afk> lol
  3309. # [23:35] <jlebar> The releng one fixes some errors in e.hsan's cvs import, aiui
  3310. # [23:35] <Callek> RyanVM|afk: don't you mean you're watching the fight tonight and hoping that a hockey game breaks out
  3311. # [23:36] <glosoli> ooo finally got it working :/
  3312. # [23:36] <RyanVM|afk> thank God the Wings will be free of west coast playoff rounds after this year
  3313. # [23:36] <seth> mbrubeck: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d571f60b80fd
  3314. # [23:36] <jld> I think this is the point at which I stop staring into the abyss.
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  3316. # [23:37] <@bz> jlebar: ok, yes
  3317. # [23:37] <@bz> jlebar: with your patch, on process buster
  3318. # [23:38] <@bz> jlebar: I see the "got new call" log right away
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  3320. # [23:38] <@bz> jlebar: then several seconds of lag....
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  3323. # [23:38] <Waldo> RyanVM|afk: /o\
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  3326. # [23:38] <Waldo> not that I often watch them even when they're on the west coast :-\
  3327. # [23:38] <jlebar> bz: Well, good to know that my old testing is still valid, I guess.
  3328. # [23:38] <Waldo> stupid time zones
  3329. # [23:39] <@bz> jlebar: at least sometimes.
  3330. # [23:39] * @bz tests more
  3331. # [23:39] <jlebar> ;)
  3332. # [23:39] <evilpie> So who owns securityUI in the browser?
  3333. # [23:39] <evilpie> tvyas dao?
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  3336. # [23:40] <jld> jlebar,bz: Yeah; NetBSD has been poking at the question of moving away from CVS for... around a decade, now? Definitely since when the only plausible alternative was Subversion. Attempts at migration typically turned up both bugs in the conversion tools and (at least at first) regrettable hand-edits of the repo....
  3337. # [23:40] <jld> jlebar,bz: Attempts at testing potential conversion tools, I mean. There are also "social factors" involved.
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  3339. # [23:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7dcb2e0f454b - Brian Nicholson - Bug 866854 - Fix button height in crash reporter. r=mfinkle
  3340. # [23:41] <hub> RyanVM|afk: series still tied.
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  3345. # [23:42] <@bz> 0:06.72
  3346. # [23:42] <@bz> s, that is
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  3348. # [23:42] <@bz> jlebar: ^ :(
  3349. # [23:43] <jlebar> bz: we're making progress here. This is good.
  3350. # [23:43] <@bz> jlebar: that's if I start the "bust processes" thing at the instant when I hit redial on my phone
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  3352. # [23:43] <@bz> jlebar: and it's measured from when I see the log entry to the first ring
  3353. # [23:43] <jlebar> bz: I need to file a bug for us to put this stuff in.
  3354. # [23:43] <@bz> jlebar: yeah
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  3360. # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d558440ac511 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 866854 - Fix button height in crash reporter (follow-up). r=mfinkle
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  3365. # [23:51] <@bz> jlebar: alright.
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  3368. # [23:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/775ab8588cec - Blake Kaplan - Bug 869086 - Make textbox.xml resilient against the changes in bug 653881. r=gavin
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  3380. # [23:55] <@bz> jlebar: I guess my next step is to profile this bit.
  3381. # [23:55] * @bz goes to do that
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  3385. # [23:56] <philor> terrence: got any idea which of the things RyanVM pushed of yours caused that bustage?
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  3390. # [23:59] <mjrosenb> tbsaunde: :( error: 'IsIntegral' is not a member of 'mozilla'
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  3393. # [23:59] <robertbindar> Can anyone give me some help about how to deal with this build error ( "/usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Memory exhausted" )? This happens only on mint 14, I didn't have any trouble on ubuntu.
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