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  67. # [00:28] <@ted> NeilAway: we explicitly do not rebuild the obj files in the second pass of the windows PGO build
  68. # [00:28] <@ted> not that it matters, because the linker does all the hard work
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  135. # [00:56] <@khuey> csmedberg yes
  136. # [00:56] <@khuey> but not dsmedberg
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  139. # [00:59] <gps> philor, RyanVM|afk: build-system has an interesting OS X failure
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  141. # [01:01] <philor> gps: bet you wish you'd pushed it somewhere else, don't you?
  142. # [01:01] <philor> seen it, dunno if it made it into a bug or just #releng
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  144. # [01:02] <gps> that's what I get for not using services-central as my personal inbound
  145. # [01:03] <philor> most expensive way to push I think I've seen
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  147. # [01:04] <gps> it's how I roll
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  149. # [01:04] <philor> looks like the error: Levis not found didn't make it into a bug
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  152. # [01:05] <philor> oh, it did, same slave, bugzilla's search is just massively annoying and stupid
  153. # [01:05] <Mossop> Bah, upgrading MozillaBuild totally broke me
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  155. # [01:06] <mbrubeck> what broke, Mossop? (just curious)
  156. # [01:06] <Callek> khuey: ^ fyi
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  158. # [01:06] <Mossop> Lots of "ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified procedure could not be found." errors whenever I use anything python. I think because changing MozillaBuild's python broke my virtualenv
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  160. # [01:07] <Callek> Mossop: ahh yes that would be exactly that
  161. # [01:07] <gps> Mossop: rm -rf objdir/_virtualenv
  162. # [01:07] <gps> mach configure
  163. # [01:07] <Callek> Mossop: you have to regen all venvs
  164. # [01:07] <gps> ... or just clobber
  165. # [01:08] <Mossop> Callek: How do I do that?
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  167. # [01:08] <gps> Mossop: you run configure to regenerate the virtualenv
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  169. # [01:08] <Mossop> Just re-run virtualenv?
  170. # [01:08] <Callek> Mossop: rm -rf $venv and then recreate it
  171. # [01:08] <Mossop> gps: Not talking about the virtualenv in the objdir
  172. # [01:08] <gps> but it won't forcefully regenerate the virtualenv
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  174. # [01:09] <Callek> Mossop: you MIGHT be able to get away with |pip freeze > ./dump.pip.txt|
  175. # [01:09] <gps> oh, you'll have to reinitialize all virtualenvs
  176. # [01:09] <Mossop> Callek: Given that my virtualenv is $HOME I don't want to rm -rf it
  177. # [01:09] <gps> blow em away. start over
  178. # [01:09] <@khuey> Callek: he didn't clobber
  179. # [01:09] <Callek> Mossop: then a rm -rf $venv/bin $venv/lib etc
  180. # [01:09] <@khuey> Callek: like I told him too
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  182. # [01:09] <@khuey> silly Mossop
  183. # [01:09] <Callek> Mossop: and then rerun virtualenv
  184. # [01:09] <gps> Mossop: that's not how you are supposed to use virtualenvs :/
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  187. # [01:10] <Mossop> gps: Works for me! (sort of)
  188. # [01:10] <gps> the idea of virtualenvs is to be easily recreatable
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  191. # [01:10] <philor> oh, so very very very awesome
  192. # [01:10] <gps> i maintain multiple virtualenvs in my home directory too. but I keep pip requirements files around so I can easily recreate them
  193. # [01:10] <philor> I opened the tree for a few seconds shy of four minutes while I was at lunch
  194. # [01:10] <philor> during that time, one patch landed
  195. # [01:10] <Mossop> gps: pip requirements files?
  196. # [01:10] <philor> can anyone guess what adjective I would use to describe that patch?
  197. # [01:11] <Callek> Mossop: rm -rf $venv/{bin,include,lib,lib64}
  198. # [01:11] <Callek> Mossop: then regen it
  199. # [01:11] <Callek> Mossop: pip freeze will list all the pip packages you installed
  200. # [01:11] <gps> Mossop: http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/cookbook.html#requirements-files
  201. # [01:11] <froydnj> philor: ill-advised?
  202. # [01:11] <Mossop> Callek: If only "pip freeze" didn't give "ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified procedure could not be found."
  203. # [01:11] <Mossop> Or perhaps if only I knew what I was doing
  204. # [01:11] <Callek> Mossop: oo right, pip needs a valid python matchng the dll's it expects
  205. # [01:12] <gps> just save a list of all the packages in your site-packages directory then reinstall everything manually via pip
  206. # [01:12] <Callek> so yea, you either have to re-downgrade-mozbuild then run that
  207. # [01:12] <Callek> or recreate from scratch now
  208. # [01:13] <gps> Mossop: the workflow I recommend is 1) Create pip requirements file 2) create new venv and populate via pip reqs file 3) update pip reqs file 4) blow away venv and goto 2
  209. # [01:13] <@smaug> tn: ping
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  212. # [01:14] <gps> if you don't constantly blow away your venvs, you accidentally get attached to them and then shit like this happens
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  214. # [01:14] <philor> froydnj: that too, but I was thinking "busted"
  215. # [01:14] <gps> I too learned the hard way :/
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  218. # [01:17] <tbsaunde> philor: does someone need to back mattwoodrow|away out?
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  220. # [01:17] <philor> tbsaunde: I don't think so, is he busted again?
  221. # [01:18] <tbsaunde> philor: no, just replying to your earlier comment
  222. # [01:18] <mbrubeck> that was about h4writer...
  223. # [01:18] <mbrubeck> I guess we should back that out, unless someone's already on it..?
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  225. # [01:19] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: oh, I'm just about to sleep so not that bright :p
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  227. # [01:20] <philor> mbrubeck: he's squirming in #jsapi, but he's not going to manage to squirm enough to get off the hook
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  229. # [01:20] <mbrubeck> Oh. Well, here goes.
  230. # [01:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58c6702b5d84 - Matt Brubeck - Back out changeset 8011f4e535fa (bug 768288) for jit-test failures
  231. # [01:21] <mbrubeck> Gotta get some green here somehow. Maybe this will atone for my "make check" sins this afternoon.
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  233. # [01:21] <philor> yep, thanks
  234. # [01:23] <jimb> So, nsIWindowMediatorListeners' onOpenWindow/onCloseWindow only report top-level window comings and goings, not individual tabs, right?
  235. # [01:24] <mbrubeck> jimb: right
  236. # [01:24] <jimb> excellent
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  239. # [01:28] <NeilAway> sfink: don't green inbound builds get merged to m-c, so you just pull m-c instead?
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  243. # [01:29] <sfink> NeilAway: eventually they do
  244. # [01:30] <sfink> I suppose what I really want is an always up-to-date inbound pull with a latest-green checkokut
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  246. # [01:31] <mbrubeck> Just last night I stumbled over an old IRC log where Jesse was suggesting a moving tag for "last good changeset"
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  252. # [01:32] <KWierso|Home> mbrubeck: uhh
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  256. # [01:33] <gps> sfink: so, you have some awesome Mercurial extension work. how would you feel if we moved some of that into the tree so others could use it easier?
  257. # [01:34] <gps> or perhaps moved it to somewhere more official to encourage development?
  258. # [01:34] <sfink> gps: can you tell me how much of the work I would be doing before I give you my answer? :)
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  260. # [01:34] <gps> I'd like to get more people utilizing awesome mercurial extensions
  261. # [01:34] <gps> I don't think it would be much work for you
  262. # [01:35] * gps knocks on wood
  263. # [01:35] <sfink> gps: sorry, can we postpone this conversation? I need to run 15 minutes ago or so.
  264. # [01:36] <sfink> But generally, I'm quite happy with the idea
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  267. # [01:37] <gps> sure
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  276. # [01:43] <tn> smaug, pong
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  279. # [01:45] <philor> so, cppunittests creating profiles...
  280. # [01:46] <philor> is that one per test, rather than one per run?
  281. # [01:46] <@smaug> tn: hmm, nm
  282. # [01:46] <@smaug> tn: I think I figured out how we tell to gtk2 to repaint
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  284. # [01:46] <philor> do we fail completely and utterly and miserably *and silently* at removing them on Windows, or does TmpD get cleaned up automatically on !Windows?
  285. # [01:47] <@smaug> tn: I assume calling nsWindow::Invalidate is enough
  286. # [01:47] <@smaug> trying to get some useful data about the slowness
  287. # [01:49] <tn> smaug, nsWindow::Invalidate will ask the OS to send us a paint event, we will just blit what we have in retained layers though without anything else happening
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  290. # [01:50] <@smaug> tn: paint event == call nsWindow::OnExposeEvent ?
  291. # [01:51] <tn> smaug, yes
  292. # [01:51] <@smaug> k
  293. # [01:51] <@smaug> it is odd that nsWindow::OnExposeEvent gets called so rarely when the problem happens
  294. # [01:51] <@smaug> well, that is the problem, I guess
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  296. # [01:53] <philor> somebody do me a favor and change the fails-if(Android) to random-if(Android) in https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75d1409ae090#l1.253? "Bug 869694 followup - stop philor from chewing on the bars of his cage"
  297. # [01:54] <philor> inbound's open
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  299. # [01:59] <firebot> Check-in:
  300. # [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0fb89f4a843 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 869151. Implement GetParent for nsCocoaWindow so that nsBaseWidget::Destroy can find the parent and remove from the child list when destroying. r=smichaud
  301. # [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33746f775a64 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 870568. Change assertion about destroying an nsCocoaWindow while modal to a warning because the code handles that case. r=smichaud
  302. # [01:59] <tn> smaug, yeah, that seems like the problem
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  304. # [02:00] <tn> philor, sure thing, can i mark you as r= for that change?
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  317. # [02:06] <tn> philor, i'll take care of bug 870620 as well, here is what i'd like to push http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2389042
  318. # [02:06] <philor> tn: perfect, r=me, thanks
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  321. # [02:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c3626167f6d8 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 869694. Followup, Mark two reftests as random instead of fails on android because they pass sometimes. r=philor
  322. # [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/797f695d4cb6 - Richard Newman - Bug 870110 - Part 1: search changes to support FHR on Android. r=wesj,cpeterson
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  325. # [02:14] <jhammel> beh, screwed up git again
  326. # [02:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01aa2993c04f - Jason Duell - Bug 870579 - IID bump for nsIWebSocketChannel r=trivial DONTBUILD
  327. # [02:14] <jhammel> beh, bad pasty
  328. # [02:14] <philor> I just thought you meant again again
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  337. # [02:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6312fc1ea87a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 870504: De-virtualize the unnecessarily virtual method nsBlockFrame::ComputeFinalSize. r=mats
  338. # [02:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d43e27c6362e - Julien Levesy - Bug 869657: rename IsEventName to IsEventAttributeName in SVGAltGlyphElement and SVGTSpanElement. r=dholbert
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  345. # [02:31] <fabrice> dholbert: any idea why this would fail to compile on windows: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/file/1683f7d9f105/toolkit/components/diskspacewatcher/DiskSpaceWatcher.cpp#l90 (log at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22797740&tree=Birch#error0) ?
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  353. # [02:38] <mjrosenb> is it possible to shadow type names in C++?
  354. # [02:39] <mjrosenb> actually
  355. # [02:39] <mjrosenb> I can just try this
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  360. # [02:40] <mjrosenb> temp_shadow.cc:5:16: error: ‘typedef class Foo<5> Foo’ redeclared as different kind of symbol
  361. # [02:40] <mjrosenb> :(
  362. # [02:40] <mjrosenb> guess not.
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  365. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> ok, so let's say I want to do this
  366. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> is there a standard naming convention that we use?
  367. # [02:42] <@khuey> for what?
  368. # [02:42] <mjrosenb> khuey: I have a template that takes a parameter, which will be filled in inside of another template
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  370. # [02:43] <mjrosenb> and I wish to typedef the instantiated template to itself, which is impossible
  371. # [02:43] <mjrosenb> khuey: https://gist.github.com/5551692
  372. # [02:44] <JonathanS> C++11 may fix this but who knows
  373. # [02:44] <@khuey> ah
  374. # [02:44] <mjrosenb> khuey: one of the Foo's should have a different name, but which, and how should I modify it?
  375. # [02:44] <@khuey> I think we usually do FooTemplate
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  377. # [02:44] <mjrosenb> wfm.
  378. # [02:44] <@khuey> then typedef FooTemplate<thingy> Foo;
  379. # [02:45] <@khuey> mjrosenb: this is in gecko of course
  380. # [02:45] <mjrosenb> oh, that should be Foo<M>, not Foo<5>, but they are isomorphic for this example.
  381. # [02:45] <@khuey> no idea what the js people do ;-)
  382. # [02:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/326950106851 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 870575 - Upgrade psutil to 0.7.1; rs=me
  383. # [02:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e358c97f4294 - Wes Johnston - Bug 729463 - Favicons should not be based on whats shown in views. r=margaret
  384. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d437af6786eb - Wes Johnston - Bug 729463 - Fix tests for switch to tab. r=gbrown
  385. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2834210d62bf - Wes Johnston - Bug 729463 - Implement switch to tab for fennec. r=mfinkle
  386. # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7de4b81d211 - Wes Johnston - Bug 729463 - Add back Open in New Tab. r=mfinkle
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  404. # [02:55] <RyanVM> philor: so, one of the great mysteries of our age
  405. # [02:56] <RyanVM> why does disabling a test on b2g18 seemingly go fine, but turn tests perma-orange on b2g18_v1_0_1
  406. # [02:56] <RyanVM> argh, it still ran :(
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  409. # [02:57] <RyanVM> oh, ffs
  410. # [02:57] <RyanVM> there's more than one
  411. # [02:58] <philor> heh
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  436. # [03:21] <@bz> Anyone here know anything about pymake?
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  438. # [03:24] <Callek> I know its python
  439. # [03:24] <Callek> but seriously, whats the Q
  440. # [03:24] * Callek sees a lot of bugs fly by
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  446. # [03:27] <dholbert> fabrice, sorry for missing your ping - looks like you got it taken care of
  447. # [03:28] <fabrice> dholbert: yep, macro expansion getting in the way
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  451. # [03:29] <@bz> Callek: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22797926&tree=Try&full=1
  452. # [03:29] <@bz> Callek: why are we hitting the python recursion limit, but only in a PGO build?
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  454. # [03:29] <Callek> *cough*
  455. # [03:29] <Callek> well that looks bad
  456. # [03:30] <@bz> well, yes
  457. # [03:30] <@bz> The question is how I make it not do that
  458. # [03:31] <Callek> bz: two things, (1) I haven't seen any bugs fly by about that (2) Its likely -either- a bug in pymake, or a bug in [your] makefile code - or both
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  460. # [03:31] <Callek> I think I have to handoff to khuey bsmedberg or gps on the innards of the why and how-do-i-fix
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  462. # [03:31] <@bz> Callek: well, sure
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  464. # [03:32] <@bz> Callek: Now note that my makefile changes compile fine on all other platforms, including non-pgo windows
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  466. # [03:33] <markh> if you want to make sure that it isn't being hit "legitimately", you could try something like "sys.setrecursionlimit(sys.getrecursionlimit()*2)
  467. # [03:34] <@bz> mmm
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  469. # [03:36] <markh> (the only real risk with that is that the process will abort instead of dieing nicely...)
  470. # [03:36] <gps> bz: achievement unlocked WTF BBQ
  471. # [03:37] <@bz> gps: yes, thanks. ;)
  472. # [03:37] <gps> bz: PGO only seems... weird
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  474. # [03:38] <gps> I didn't realize pymake recursively called like that. sadness
  475. # [03:38] <vlad> gps: I have mach patches for you
  476. # [03:38] <vlad> that I need to post
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  478. # [03:39] <vlad> I don't know why I'm letting you know on irc instead of putting them in a bug, really
  479. # [03:39] <@bz> gps: well, so
  480. # [03:39] <@bz> gps: pgo only is interesting in that it does this GARBAGE deletion
  481. # [03:40] <gps> vlad: to the mach core or patches to commands?
  482. # [03:40] <gps> if the former, you can throw them up on https://github.com/indygreg/mach
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  484. # [03:40] <vlad> both; they basically allow for objdirs in any random location/name, using a similar syntax to the previous "MOZCONFIG=path/to/some/mozconfig ../../gecko/configure" method
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  486. # [03:41] <gps> vlad: oh lovely
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  488. # [03:41] <gps> bz: I /think/ I may know what's going on
  489. # [03:42] <vlad> gps: but there's some weird and annoying issues on windows with / and \ path handling
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  491. # [03:42] <vlad> that I have fixed, but i'm not sure it's valid.. we'll see :)
  492. # [03:42] <gps> or not
  493. # [03:43] <gps> vlad: welcome to the club. there is a mozpack.path module that quacks like os.path but always uses '/'
  494. # [03:43] <vlad> yeah, the problem was actually in makefiles
  495. # [03:43] <vlad> with things coming from env vars, like $PYTHON
  496. # [03:44] <gps> paths in makefiles are... special
  497. # [03:44] <@bz> gps: heh
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  503. # [03:47] <gps> bz: can you repro the issue?
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  506. # [03:48] <@bz> gps: on tinderbox and try, sure
  507. # [03:48] <@bz> gps: locally, no idea; needs a Windows build setup.
  508. # [03:48] * @bz could try exhuming his
  509. # [03:48] <@khuey> hg.mozilla.org/try does not want to load
  510. # [03:48] <@bz> khuey: what are you looking for?
  511. # [03:48] <@bz> khuey: the makefile in question?
  512. # [03:48] <@khuey> yeah
  513. # [03:48] <@bz> one sec
  514. # [03:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e1981be9749 - Jim Chen - Bug 860879 - Make PromptService not block when handing result from UI to Gecko thread; r=wesj
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  516. # [03:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/397da5eb63b2 - Jim Chen - Bug 860879 - Make file picker use public PromptService.getResponse method; r=wesj
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  518. # [03:49] <@bz> khuey: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/712d3684efe4
  519. # [03:49] <gps> bz: push to try with a hacked up mozconfig with |mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-d"|
  520. # [03:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b3b08aeba3d - Jim Chen - Bug 860879 - Make GeckoAppShell.processNextNativeEvent waitable; r=blassey
  521. # [03:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c66ae62f9cb1 - Jim Chen - Bug 860879 - Make file picker not block when handing result from UI to Gecko thread; r=wesj
  522. # [03:49] <@bz> khuey: And hence https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/file/712d3684efe4/dom/bindings/Makefile.in
  523. # [03:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c189f66a528 - Jim Chen - Bug 860879 - Refactor PromptService; r=wesj
  524. # [03:50] <@khuey> gps: that'll blow out the tinderbox log limit pretty quickly
  525. # [03:50] <gps> really? wasn't someone pushing code coverage data builds to try and yielding 1GB+ logs?
  526. # [03:50] <@khuey> bz: if we need to debug this on an actualy windows box I'll take one for the team
  527. # [03:50] <@khuey> bz: but I hope that we don't get that far ;-)
  528. # [03:50] <@khuey> gps: that's news to me
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  536. # [03:53] <Callek> gps: fwiw a try run with -d MIGHT be useful, the problem is each "step" has a hard limit on log length...
  537. # [03:54] <Callek> I think 1GB on a specific step is the hard limit but I forget for sure
  538. # [03:54] <@bz> khuey: I hope so too
  539. # [03:54] <Callek> bz: also I can loan you a windows official machine if it helps :-)
  540. # [03:54] <Callek> that you can VNC or RDP into
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  543. # [03:55] <Callek> but by this point might be best to loan it to gps or khuey since I don't expect bz to fix the pymake issue ;-)
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  553. # [03:57] * @bz knows python now
  554. # [03:57] <@bz> can fix things. ;)
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  576. # [04:01] <Callek> bz: but how deeply do you understand GNUMake, and associated syntax magic?
  577. # [04:01] <Callek> included undocumented bugs
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  579. # [04:02] <@bz> Callek: About deep enough to trigger thin-film interference
  580. # [04:02] <Callek> hehe
  581. # [04:02] <Callek> fair
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  591. # [04:08] <RyanVM> eh, doing a merge tonight was a nice thought
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  595. # [04:10] <Callek> bz: so if say, before 2am ET you decide you want a loaner, file a releng bug and ping me about it
  596. # [04:10] <Callek> I can make it happen tonight ;-)
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  598. # [04:10] <Callek> (if after that, I won't be doing the loaning likely, but you can still get one)
  599. # [04:10] <@bz> Callek: hmm?
  600. # [04:10] <@bz> Callek: In theory I have two machines capable of windows builds
  601. # [04:10] <@bz> Callek: in theory.
  602. # [04:10] <Callek> bz: in theory *my* machine is capable of windows builds, in practice right now its not
  603. # [04:11] <Callek> i can't seem to coerce msvc(8 or 2010) atm to be able to generate acceptible binaries for configure to pass
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  607. # [04:15] * markh just found clippy in mach :)
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  611. # [04:17] <Callek> markh: clippy was my only friend in grade school :(
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  613. # [04:17] <markh> Callek: good news - he's come back to be your only friend as an adult!
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  615. # [04:18] <Callek> markh: I have better friends in terms of slenderman now
  616. # [04:19] * markh struggles to keep up with all these memes...
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  618. # [04:19] * @bz ponders trying again with some of these patches
  619. # [04:20] * @bz wonders whether that makes him stupid or just trusting... ;)
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  624. # [04:24] <vlad> arg, cygwin heap blah blah
  625. # [04:24] <vlad> that's annoying since I kind of wanted to build js
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  627. # [04:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9f7d1f298a2a - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 869014. Don't allow name collisions between external interfaces and other objects. r=khuey
  628. # [04:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/096e054032bf - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 870219 part 1. Fix the chrome-scope checking for workers to work even if we incorrectly set up worker interface objects on the main thread. r=bent
  629. # [04:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0829a642fd9 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 868996. Allow setting opener on the window to non-null, for just the lifetime of the page. r=bholley
  630. # [04:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e42977d6d77 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 870219 part 2. Add a way for chrome JS that's implementing a WebIDL interface to get/set event handlers sanely on content objects. r=smaug
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  678. # [05:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c74ce1905b96 - Brian Smith - Bug 832848: Removed unused site identity block tooltip logic from PSM, r=dolske
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  682. # [05:12] <@roc> can we get the minidumps produced by crashes in tinderbox mochitests?
  683. # [05:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/494c33bc8dbd - Daniel Holbert - Bug 870555 part 2: Add nsFlexContainerFrame::GetSkipSides specialization. r=mats
  684. # [05:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5aee43eeebe1 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 870555 part 1: Add curly braces around early-return in nsBlockFrame::GetSkipSides, for clarity. r=mats
  685. # [05:13] <nthomas> I think the harness deletes them after trying to walk the stack
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  693. # [05:18] <@roc> can we get the minidumps produced by crashes in tinderbox mochitests?
  694. # [05:19] <nthomas> I think the code that handles that is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mozbase/mozcrash/mozcrash/mozcrash.py#21 so MINIDUMP_SAVE_PATH might be helpful for a try run
  695. # [05:19] <nthomas> + a RelEnger to grab that for you
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  710. # [05:29] <nthomas> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Getting_debug_symbols probably also relevent
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  723. # [05:36] <@bz> So if I wanted people to fix a bunch of code in dom/*
  724. # [05:37] <@bz> Like dom/camera
  725. # [05:37] <@bz> whom do I shanghai into it?
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  729. # [05:42] <philor> hahaha, that's a good one
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  731. # [05:43] <philor> unlike bsmith's push, which is a burny one
  732. # [05:43] <tbsaunde> bz: "fix"?
  733. # [05:43] <@dolske> like a vet.
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  735. # [05:45] <@bz> tbsaunde: Make them stop using JS_SetProperty and JS_SetElement
  736. # [05:45] <@bz> tbsaunde: unless they really mean to, of course
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  741. # [05:47] <tbsaunde> bz: ah
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  743. # [05:48] <@bz> tbsaunde: I will bet money they don't mean to...
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  747. # [05:51] <philor> your best bet is probably to send back a Terminator to take out the reviewer
  748. # [05:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f4e7df5a393 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out c74ce1905b96 (bug 832848) for not actually building
  749. # [05:52] <tbsaunde> bz: I probably couldn't tell one way or the other
  750. # [05:52] <philor> dolske: was it your half of that patch that didn't build, or bsmith's?
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  752. # [05:53] <philor> ah, no, your patch for that file, "+ // DEADCODE -- followup", would have built fine :)
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  764. # [06:02] <@bz> tbsaunde: I will bet money that just mass-changing them all is correct.
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  772. # [06:08] <tbsaunde> bz: I'm not sure what one would mass change them to, but it seems like the camera stuff desperately wants to just be converted to webidl?
  773. # [06:10] <@bz> The right thing to use is JS_DefineProperty/JS_DefineElement
  774. # [06:10] <@bz> But yes
  775. # [06:11] <@bz> webidl might eliminate a lot of these callsites
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  788. # [06:29] <@bz> how do we decide which pushes get a pgo build?
  789. # [06:30] <philor> every n hours (3 on inbound), whatever is tip
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  791. # [06:31] <philor> plus whatever I want to ensure will have a chance of merging, and the same for RyanVM though for him that's generally his last merge-from-m-c-plus-backout
  792. # [06:31] <philor> self-serve lets you trigger PGO on whatever rev you want
  793. # [06:31] <philor> except on try
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  795. # [06:32] <@bz> ah, I see
  796. # [06:32] <sfink> hardly a limitation
  797. # [06:32] <@bz> That exception is dumb. ;)
  798. # [06:32] <sfink> just push whatever you want to inbound and back it out before philor notices
  799. # [06:32] <@bz> sfink: my bisect will cut you
  800. # [06:32] <@bz> sfink: it totally will
  801. # [06:33] <philor> most weekdays, I don't know how you would tell the difference
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  836. # [07:08] <philor> tbsaunde: https://treestatus.mozilla.org/mozilla-inbound says I reopened it at 21:00:18, so I'd say a bit over an hour ago
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  880. # [07:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6035591d40f8 - Trevor Saunders - bug 869284 - fix some gcc warnings for windows widgetish stuff r=roc
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  882. # [07:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4007c60cae7 - Trevor Saunders - bug 869279 - fix mingw warnings in netwerk/ r=jduell
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  934. # [08:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96fe69d53f35 - Mark Hammond - Bug 566746 - various fixes to sanitize(). r=mak
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  1054. # [10:16] <edmorley> Ms2ger: ahem, cipc orange
  1055. # [10:17] <Ms2ger> Looking
  1056. # [10:17] <Ms2ger> Not me, I don't think
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  1058. # [10:17] <Ms2ger> firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.
  1059. # [10:18] * edmorley retriggers ftw
  1060. # [10:18] <Ms2ger> edmorley, can I claim bug 858968? :)
  1061. # [10:18] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah likely, that was VM too
  1062. # [10:18] <Ms2ger> Mm, VMs
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  1064. # [10:20] <Ms2ger> I wonder how that ended up in Widget: Gonk
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  1086. # [10:43] <ferjm> hi! I am trying to run mochitests on a desktop build and I am getting this error http://pastie.org/7825963
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  1092. # [10:49] <edmorley> ferjm: I'd recommend filing a bug in core::mach - even if it's a common issue, it should be handled better
  1093. # [10:51] <ferjm> edmorley, I will, I was just asking just in case it's an issue on my side
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  1097. # [10:54] <reuben> I think that happens when you have an python package called automation that gets picked up by mach somehow
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  1099. # [10:55] <reuben> are you running mach from outside of the source tree? e.g. |mach foo| instead of |./mach foo|
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  1101. # [10:55] <reuben> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/automation
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  1103. # [10:56] <reuben> oh nvm, it's in the log
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  1107. # [11:02] <reuben> ferjm: http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23developers&s=28+Apr+2013&e=28+Apr+2013&h=within+an+objdir#c619945
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  1117. # [11:16] <ferjm> reuben, great. Thanks!
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  1122. # [11:19] <Ms2ger> edmorley, can you read anything out of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22810616&tree=Mozilla-Central#error0 ?
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  1125. # [11:20] <edmorley> Ms2ger: sadly not, minidumps occasionally are messed up, ted will be able to explain more
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  1130. # [11:24] <sachin_h> Hey. I'm having some difficulty running a single xpcshell unit test.
  1131. # [11:24] <sachin_h> This is what I tried:
  1132. # [11:24] <sachin_h> cd objdir
  1133. # [11:24] <sachin_h> make SOLO_FILE="test_DownloadUtils.js" -C ~/mozilla-central/toolkit/mozapps/downloads/tests/unit check-one
  1134. # [11:25] <sachin_h> I get: "make: *** No rule to make target `check-one'. Stop."
  1135. # [11:25] <Ms2ger> Try...
  1136. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> ./mach xpcshell-test toolkit/mozapps/downloads/tests/unit/test_DownloadUtils.js
  1137. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> From your source dir
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  1140. # [11:27] <sachin_h> Ms2ger: That worked. Thanks!
  1141. # [11:27] <Ms2ger> Np
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  1152. # [11:40] <NeilAway> markh/mak: so, is it no longer possible to sanitise form data on shutdown?
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  1154. # [11:41] <mak> NeilAway: did you test it not working?
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  1156. # [11:41] <mak> NeilAway: it's complicated, as any other async behavior on shutdown
  1157. # [11:41] <NeilAway> mak: no, I was just reading bug 566746's summary
  1158. # [11:42] <mak> NeilAway: it's impossible to guarantee async clearing happens as expected, on the other side if it doesn't happen will be done at next starup, if I read it correctly
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  1160. # [11:45] <NeilAway> mak: sorry, I'm trying to look at this from the point of view of which bits need porting... 18 patches, none of them with names that would mean anything to me
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  1162. # [11:47] <mak> NeilAway: you'd better look at the coalesced patch. The sanitize changes are due to the fact new form history can't be used synchronously
  1163. # [11:48] <NeilAway> mak: look at which patch?
  1164. # [11:48] <mak> NeilAway: the changeset https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b21e902f7a0
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  1167. # [11:53] <NeilAway> mak: ok, so what you're saying is that you ask for clearing, but you might not get a positive response in time?
  1168. # [11:53] <mak> NeilAway: yes
  1169. # [11:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2aa65478e490 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 870442 - Fix some shell rooting hazards and false positives r=terrence
  1170. # [11:54] <NeilAway> mak: is FormHistory.update sync or async?
  1171. # [11:55] <mak> NeilAway: everything is async
  1172. # [11:55] <NeilAway> mak: so how do you know whether the update succeeded?
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  1174. # [11:56] <mak> NeilAway: it has callbacks
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  1177. # [11:58] <NeilAway> mak: hmm, patch doesn't seem to use them, so you actually think the form data has cleared but without checking it?
  1178. # [12:00] <mak> NeilAway: it's likely in some cases we do not care to verify it completed. Another thing to take into account is that all ops are serialized
  1179. # [12:01] <mak> NeilAway: this was a quite large change, so if you find issues we missed, please feel free to file them, that will help :)
  1180. # [12:01] <NeilAway> mak: is the sanitiser likely to become more asynchronous in future?
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  1182. # [12:02] <mak> NeilAway: it's likely, indeed we need a better way to handle sanitize on shutdown
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  1189. # [12:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2f6d207d6aa - David Burns - Bug 869488: add mechanism for getting css rule attached to element from Marionette; r=mdas
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  1233. # [13:19] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, getter_AddRefs doesn't work there, it seems? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22814440&tree=Try#error0
  1234. # [13:19] <AryehGregor> ../../../widget/cocoa/nsChildView.mm:2122:5: error: no matching function for call to 'CallQueryReferent'
  1235. # [13:19] <AryehGregor> CallQueryReferent(mAccessible.get(), getter_AddRefs(ret));
  1236. # [13:19] <AryehGregor> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  1237. # [13:19] <AryehGregor> ../../dist/include/nsIWeakReferenceUtils.h:26:1: note: candidate template ignored: failed template argument deduction
  1238. # [13:19] <AryehGregor> CallQueryReferent( T* aSource, DestinationType** aDestination )
  1239. # [13:20] <AryehGregor> Should I explicitly cast it to a11y::Accessible**?
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  1247. # [13:25] <@ted> Ms2ger: looks like it didn't write a minidump properly. :-(
  1248. # [13:26] <@ted> i've been seeing some crashes on my phone lately where it's not writing a minidump
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  1250. # [13:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdef95d92e63 - Makoto Kato - Bug 870583 - Rev IID for IUIABridge. r=jimm
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  1257. # [13:37] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, right, getter_AddRefs converts to several X**'s... static_cast<a11y::Accessible**>(getter_AddRefs(ret)) should work
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  1260. # [13:39] <Ms2ger> edmorley, wanted nightlies on your merge? :)
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  1262. # [13:39] <edmorley> Ms2ger: yeah for bug 865546
  1263. # [13:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/197a59a83835 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 870328 - Fix isSetName check in visitSetPropertyCacheT. r=bhackett
  1264. # [13:39] <Ms2ger> edmorley, ah, that one
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  1273. # [13:55] <baku> Ms2ger, any reason why nsIDOMDOMError doesn't have 'message'?
  1274. # [13:55] <baku> http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#domerror it seems it should.
  1275. # [13:56] <Ms2ger> baku, because the spec has had it since Wednesday?
  1276. # [13:56] <baku> good point.
  1277. # [13:57] <baku> Ms2ger, ah... do you remember the discussion about names and form?
  1278. # [13:57] <Ms2ger> Mhmm?
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  1280. # [13:57] <baku> the discussion we had yesterday with bz
  1281. # [13:57] <Ms2ger> I'm afraid I do, yes
  1282. # [13:58] <baku> can you help me to file a bug? I think I'm not able to describe it properly
  1283. # [13:58] <baku> it's still a bit confuse to me...
  1284. # [13:58] <Ms2ger> Sure
  1285. # [13:58] <baku> so actually, if you can file the bug, just assign it to me.
  1286. # [13:58] <baku> with a wonderful description is a plus :)
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  1289. # [13:59] <jesup> ted: can you get access to minidumps from Windows tbpl test crashes?
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  1292. # [14:00] <Ms2ger> Whoa
  1293. # [14:01] <@ted> jesup: i can't, no
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  1295. # [14:01] <jesup> ted: who can?
  1296. # [14:01] <@ted> jesup: if you look in the log we should be saving them, so if you can ping buildduty they might be able to grab you one
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  1299. # [14:02] <jesup> ted: where can I find buildduty?
  1300. # [14:02] <jesup> not in #build
  1301. # [14:02] <edmorley> jesup: you'll need to ask them soon after, otherwise they inevitable will have been purged
  1302. # [14:02] <@ted> #releng ?
  1303. # [14:02] <@ted> don't see anyone with that in their nick at the moment though
  1304. # [14:02] <@ted> but you can ask there
  1305. # [14:02] <edmorley> ted: it's not PDT hours, no one uses the build infra outside of them, so no need for anyone on duty...
  1306. # [14:03] <@ted> ha ha
  1307. # [14:03] <@ted> buildduty just rotates, AIUI
  1308. # [14:03] <edmorley> silly ted
  1309. # [14:03] <edmorley> :-)
  1310. # [14:03] <@ted> so sometimes you get east coast coverage, and sometimes west coast
  1311. # [14:03] * @ted isn't sure if nthomas gets stuck on pacific ocean buildduty coverage
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  1326. # [14:21] <Yoric> Is there a good way to convert a TypedArray into base64?
  1327. # [14:21] <Yoric> (platform code)
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  1332. # [14:25] <nemo> Yoric: window.btoa ?
  1333. # [14:25] <Yoric> Does that work on TypedArray?
  1334. # [14:26] <Ms2ger> Nah, just on strings
  1335. # [14:26] <nemo> Ms2ger: eh. you can convert to string easily
  1336. # [14:26] <nemo> Did he want efficiency or something? :D
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  1338. # [14:26] <nemo> read the array a byte at a time
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  1340. # [14:26] <nemo> append to string
  1341. # [14:27] <nemo> prob would need fromCharCode, but whatev
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  1344. # [14:27] <nemo> prob would not take much code to implement base64. it is very simple
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  1346. # [14:27] <Yoric> Actually, I'm reviewing code that does this kind of thing, currently in platform.
  1347. # [14:28] <Yoric> Take TypedArray, encode to string, convert to base64.
  1348. # [14:28] <Yoric> That sounds crazy.
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  1350. # [14:28] <nemo> Yoric: well. our code in hedgewars to do the reverse mapping of the base64 table iiiiis...
  1351. # [14:28] <nemo> a 5 line while loop
  1352. # [14:28] <Yoric> Does URL.createObjectURL work in chrome code?
  1353. # [14:29] <nemo> Yoric: so, I'd say just look for code for a base64 encoding and convert to js. I bet it'd take like 15 minutes tops :D
  1354. # [14:29] <Yoric> nemo: The crazy part is converting binary data to binary data by going through a string.
  1355. # [14:29] <nemo> Yoric: you don't need a string if you do it yourself :)
  1356. # [14:29] <nemo> also base64 isn't binary data
  1357. # [14:29] <nemo> that's typed array to string, to longer strong
  1358. # [14:29] <nemo> string
  1359. # [14:29] <Yoric> Well, it's binary encoded as string.
  1360. # [14:30] <nemo> right. and? :)
  1361. # [14:30] <Yoric> Anyway, that process just sounds crazy :)
  1362. # [14:30] <Yoric> All of this to read an icon from a file.
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  1364. # [14:31] <nemo> Yoric: er. if I was reading an icon, I'd just load it to a canvas
  1365. # [14:31] <nemo> Yoric: then get the byte data from that
  1366. # [14:31] <nemo> but maybe there's some special procedure for internal code. dunno :) that's what I'd do on web pages anyway
  1367. # [14:31] <Yoric> Yeah, me too.
  1368. # [14:32] <Yoric> But that might require too much refactoring of existing code.
  1369. # [14:32] <Yoric> Unless we can create a headless Canvas object in chrome.
  1370. # [14:32] <Ms2ger> Not for a long time
  1371. # [14:34] <nemo> hrm. FileRead has readAsDataURL
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  1373. # [14:34] <nemo> Yoric: as for canvas thing. huh. maybe that was their objection to http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase242d.xhtml ?
  1374. # [14:35] <nemo> but... no. viewing an image gets its own DOM and wrapper HTML
  1375. # [14:35] * nemo still hates what Firefox does to transparent PNGs these days
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  1383. # [14:40] <Yoric> So what's the relationship between Mozilla and Appcoast?
  1384. # [14:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9354202c68f0 - Frédéric Wang - Bug 745131 - Improve how <semantics> determine the visible child. r=karlt
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  1386. # [14:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da4ef4dc056b - Mitchell Mebane - Bug 814379 - Don't use cached userAgent for fallback when no site-specific UA exists. r=dao
  1387. # [14:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e674ea03480b - Frédéric Wang - Bug 745131 - Reftests for <semantics>. r=karlt
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  1391. # [14:45] <RyanVM> edmorley: so, windows b2g desktop builds are busted
  1392. # [14:46] <RyanVM> and thanks to the hidden by default status, we didn't notice until the merge to birch
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  1395. # [14:46] <RyanVM> jimm: ping
  1396. # [14:46] <jimm> hey
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  1398. # [14:48] <jimm> RyanVM: that Bg bustage on windows builds?
  1399. # [14:48] <RyanVM> jimm: yeah, pretty sure it's sdk-related
  1400. # [14:48] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22816917&tree=Birch
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  1403. # [14:49] <jimm> bug 870724 should address that. I'm guessing enable-metro is on in those builds.
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  1405. # [14:49] <RyanVM> yeah, it was your push that killed it
  1406. # [14:49] <jimm> *isn't
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  1408. # [14:50] <RyanVM> let's push that to birch first
  1409. # [14:50] <RyanVM> and can someone who's currently awake r+?
  1410. # [14:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6336284c7f1f - Hannes Verschore - Bug 768288: IonMonkey: Inline small functions with loops, r=djvj r=shu
  1411. # [14:51] <jimm> Bas: ping
  1412. # [14:53] <edmorley> RyanVM: yeah saw that, though not exactly surprising given hidden by default elsewhere
  1413. # [14:53] <edmorley> RyanVM: I think we should hide them on b2g18 until they adhere to the visibility policy
  1414. # [14:53] <edmorley> s/b2g18/birch/
  1415. # [14:54] <RyanVM> edmorley: I don't. I told that to philor when he hid them in the first place.
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  1420. # [14:55] <edmorley> RyanVM: well ok, but I'm not going to prioritise looking into them when they break like this (ie this is why I hadn't done anything about it on my merge yet)
  1421. # [14:56] <RyanVM> fine, but I don't want b2g builds hidden on a branch where active b2g development is happening
  1422. # [14:56] <RyanVM> seems counterproductive
  1423. # [14:56] <edmorley> having inconsistent visibility of job types across trunk trees is counterproductive too
  1424. # [14:57] <edmorley> I'm not saying the situation is ideal, just that hiding them on birch could be the lever we need to get them to start caring about the desktop builds overall, and mean we can have them visible everywhere - which seems like the most ideal end goal anyway
  1425. # [14:58] <RyanVM> we already have the lever
  1426. # [14:58] <RyanVM> and it's already a priority
  1427. # [14:58] <RyanVM> gaia ui-tests are adding the infra needed
  1428. # [14:58] <RyanVM> and jgriffin is actively on that
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  1430. # [15:00] <edmorley> I'm just wary about making informal exceptions to the visibility policy, otherwise why have it?
  1431. # [15:00] <RyanVM> I thought we'd already made exceptions for jobs which were already visible prior
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  1434. # [15:01] <edmorley> not really, and birch is post policy
  1435. # [15:01] <RyanVM> birch is also special cased for other reasons
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  1438. # [15:02] <edmorley> anyway, I'm happy for you to leave them unhidden, I just won't be treating it as a sheriff managed tree for now :-)
  1439. # [15:02] <RyanVM> i wasn't planning to close birch over it
  1440. # [15:02] <RyanVM> but I will be haranguing jimm, Bas, etc to get the fix landed
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  1442. # [15:03] <edmorley> wfm
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  1447. # [15:07] <jimm> RyanVM: ug, you're going to make me clone birch? :)
  1448. # [15:08] <RyanVM> or you can use checkin-needed
  1449. # [15:08] <RyanVM> you could also pull it into your m-c tree and push there
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  1452. # [15:08] <RyanVM> since birch is currently m-c + 2 patches
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  1461. # [15:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d72307b5972b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 869694 - Mark another test as random on Android.
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  1475. # [15:28] <RyanVM> jimm: thanks :)
  1476. # [15:29] <jimm> do you want me to land on inbound as well, or will that merge over?
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  1483. # [15:32] <edmorley> RyanVM: wtf m-c nightly for fennec
  1484. # [15:33] <RyanVM> jimm: it'll merge
  1485. # [15:33] <RyanVM> edmorley: yeah, was about to say the same
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  1487. # [15:33] <edmorley> RyanVM: that's err how can I put it...? unfortunate?
  1488. # [15:33] <RyanVM> edmorley: I'm inclined to retrigger the Nightly. AFAIK, there's no major difference between a nightly and a dep build in android land
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  1490. # [15:34] <edmorley> agreed, let's try that :-)
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  1495. # [15:34] <edmorley> RyanVM: have you retriggered, or shall I?
  1496. # [15:34] <RyanVM> i will
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  1498. # [15:35] <RyanVM> the armv6 build will be informative too
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  1506. # [15:38] <edmorley> RyanVM: so I was thinking of a potential improvement to only-unstarred view: if there is an unstarred failure on a push, don't just display that failure, but display all others with the exact same buildername (of any result or star status)
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  1509. # [15:39] <edmorley> RyanVM: that way you can see "intermittent turned perma" as well as tell if you've retriggered a potential needs-filing orange already
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  1519. # [15:45] <RyanVM> edmorley: OK, now I'm worried
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  1524. # [15:52] <edmorley> RyanVM: hmm
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  1540. # [16:00] <irving> Is there a particular channel where people talk about xpcshell tests and the test harness?
  1541. # [16:02] <irving> I have a couple of test files that have started getting TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL from the test harness, even though all the test cases in the file pass - looking for advice on how to diagnose.
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  1544. # [16:05] <nemo> ugh. I hate how view source on a fairly large page will lock up all of firefox for like 5-10 seconds :(
  1545. # [16:05] <nemo> sooo annoying. esp when I have to do it repeatedly.
  1546. # [16:06] <nemo> whatever it is doing, it'd be nice if it could do it in some worker or thread or something
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  1548. # [16:06] <nemo> and now I click on the link to jquery.flot.pie.js in View Source and. locked up again. wheee
  1549. # [16:06] <irving> nemo: file a bug (if there isn't already one) and put "[snappy]" in the whiteboard so the performance team tracks it
  1550. # [16:07] <nemo> and. just unlocked up now
  1551. # [16:07] <nemo> that must have been almost 30 seconds that time
  1552. # [16:07] <nemo> and amusingly. no syntax highlighting that I can see in the .js file - so. no reason at all rendering a text file should have taken that long
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  1554. # [16:07] <mfinkle> bhearsum, we need to pull the andoird nighlty update!!!
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  1556. # [16:08] <mfinkle> bhearsum, SIREN, SIREN
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  1560. # [16:09] <@ted> irving: #ateam is probably your best bet
  1561. # [16:09] <nemo> ted: is that who I should be whining to about this?
  1562. # [16:10] <nemo> oh. n/m
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  1564. # [16:10] <nemo> sorry
  1565. # [16:10] * nemo slinks off to file the bug
  1566. # [16:10] <irving> ted: thanks.
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  1568. # [16:11] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751901 possibly
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  1570. # [16:12] <irving> nemo: that's the developer tools, I think, not the View Source window.
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  1573. # [16:13] <nemo> m'k
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  1575. # [16:13] <nemo> not finding anything else *files*
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  1577. # [16:15] <jesup> RyanVM: Looks like bug 870002 frequency has gone down; we'll see if that holds. We're thinking of taking a test server out of service to run the test continuously on to try to catch it. It's really freaking odd... and windows-only
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  1581. # [16:17] <bhearsum> mfinkle: pulling it
  1582. # [16:17] <bhearsum> mfinkle: done
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  1585. # [16:17] <bhearsum> can you file a bug about this when you get a chance?
  1586. # [16:17] <bhearsum> catlee-buildduty: ^
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  1588. # [16:18] <Standard8> RyanVM: just wondering if you're landing the c-c parts of bug 862986 as I think I saw it mentioned that you had them in your tree already. If not I can land it when I get back
  1589. # [16:18] <RyanVM> Standard8: yes, thanks for the reminder
  1590. # [16:18] <Standard8> RyanVM: thanks for landing :-)
  1591. # [16:18] <Standard8> RyanVM: btw, I closed the tree as I just noticed the bustage
  1592. # [16:19] <Standard8> bbiab
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  1594. # [16:21] <edmorley> mfinkle, bhearsum: bug 870782
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  1597. # [16:22] <bhearsum> catlee-buildduty: ^
  1598. # [16:22] <edmorley> mfinkle: presuming that's the issue you are seeing?
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  1602. # [16:25] <RyanVM> edmorley: ugh, one major difference I see with android nightlies
  1603. # [16:25] <RyanVM> --enable-profiling
  1604. # [16:25] <RyanVM> i'll bet you that's the problem
  1605. # [16:26] <edmorley> all other platforms have that enabled on dep builds, right?
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  1608. # [16:27] <RyanVM> no
  1609. # [16:27] <RyanVM> it's nightly-only
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  1611. # [16:27] <RyanVM> you can cry now
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  1616. # [16:28] <edmorley> RyanVM: but why do we need the "profiling" (aka no profiling) branch then? at least at the outset, the premise of that was to ensure things didn't break with profiling disabled when they uplifted to aurora et al
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  1618. # [16:28] <RyanVM> ehsan? ^
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  1620. # [16:29] <edmorley> but the (no-)profiling branch doesn't do nightlies, therefore if dep builds don't have profiling enabled, is testing exactly the same as m-c
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  1623. # [16:29] <@ted> whaa
  1624. # [16:30] <edmorley> but we've had (no-)profiling tree-only failures before, so I can only think that (a) we do indeed do dep profiling builds, or (b) we've changed the config recently
  1625. # [16:30] <@ted> why do we not have profiling enabled on dep builds?
  1626. # [16:30] <@ted> oh
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  1628. # [16:30] <@ted> maybe this was android-only?
  1629. # [16:30] <@ted> we did change the android config recently
  1630. # [16:30] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22812472&tree=Mozilla-Central is the dep android build from the same cset, cmd=f says its mozconfig includes --enable-profiling
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  1632. # [16:31] <RyanVM> i thought dep builds used mobile/android/config/mozconfigs/android/release
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  1635. # [16:32] <philor> nope, releases use release, deps use nightly, because we like overloading
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  1637. # [16:32] <@ted> eh, makes more sense than having a separate dep config
  1638. # [16:32] <@ted> deps and nightlies ought to be as similar as possible
  1639. # [16:33] <edmorley> philor++
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  1641. # [16:34] <edmorley> philor: you're like mxr and b.m.o quicksearch rolled into one :-)
  1642. # [16:34] <RyanVM> jdm: starting off the day with a bang :P
  1643. # [16:34] <philor> yeah, if we make them use the same mozconfig, then when someone foolishly wants to make them different, they'll hide the difference deep in their code, so we don't have to see it until afternoon
  1644. # [16:34] <jdm> RyanVM: yeah, good times
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  1648. # [16:35] <RyanVM> jimm: windows desktop b2g builds are green on birch, thanks again
  1649. # [16:35] <@ted> hah
  1650. # [16:35] <jimm> np
  1651. # [16:35] <@ted> philor: do people intentionally want to make them different?
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  1653. # [16:35] <@ted> or is that usually by accident
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  1658. # [16:36] <edmorley> ted: depends on if it involves only building an OOMing addon on release channels or not... ;-)
  1659. # [16:36] * khuey is now known as khuey|caltrain
  1660. # [16:37] <@ted> ?
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  1663. # [16:38] <philor> we need a grep of the last 30 hours of changes for 'channel'
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  1665. # [16:38] <edmorley> ted: sorry, reference to bug 823989 and friends :-)
  1666. # [16:38] <RyanVM> how quickly we forget :P
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  1669. # [16:39] <RyanVM> edmorley: I canceled the retrigger. Seemed rather pointless
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  1671. # [16:39] <edmorley> yup
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  1674. # [16:39] <@ted> heh
  1675. # [16:40] <@ted> that was aurora-vs-nightly, not dep-vs-nightly
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  1680. # [16:41] <philor> oh, telemetry
  1681. # [16:42] <RyanVM> edmorley: seems like we hit the 1200sec timeout more often since jdm's patch landed. I wonder if the harness isn't noticing failures or something?
  1682. # [16:43] <@ehsan> RyanVM: what's the question? why do we have the profiling branch?!
  1683. # [16:43] <edmorley> ehsan: unping, misread of mozconfigs
  1684. # [16:43] <jdm> RyanVM: does those timeouts involve IPC tests, by chance?
  1685. # [16:43] <@ehsan> phew!
  1686. # [16:43] <jdm> I filed a bug after realizing that we don't timeout IPC tests in a way that allows the harness to continue
  1687. # [16:44] <RyanVM> jdm: no, just regular failures. Seems like we get the failure and then a 1200sec timeout often
  1688. # [16:44] <edmorley> RyanVM: some of them have been after the kill process python exception
  1689. # [16:44] <edmorley> don't know if we were waiting for the process to end
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  1691. # [16:44] <jdm> huh, weird.
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  1695. # [16:48] <@khuey|caltrain> FUCK
  1696. # [16:48] <@khuey|caltrain> caltrain hit someone
  1697. # [16:48] <@khuey|caltrain> 5 seconds after we left SF
  1698. # [16:48] <Ms2ger> :/
  1699. # [16:48] <@khuey|caltrain> (not my train, one further down the line)
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  1704. # [16:49] <philor> edmorley / RyanVM : dunno what broke it, but http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#8778 is your difference between nightly and dep
  1705. # [16:50] <RyanVM> khuey|caltrain: Oh dear
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  1709. # [16:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/623e10644c02 - Josh Matthews - Bug 869638 - Remove xpcshell timeout timers. r=ted
  1710. # [16:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7ec282a261f - Josh Matthews - Bug 870745 - Remove incorrect self argument from killAndGetStack. r=ted
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  1717. # [16:56] <Olipro> I'm getting a build failure when trying to compile firefox with a locale other than en-US (using --enable-ui-locale) did anything change between FF 20 and 21?
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  1719. # [16:57] <Yoric> Olipro: I don't know if it's related, but some (all?) locales have changed tree recently.
  1720. # [16:58] <Olipro> possible, where's the new tree located?
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  1725. # [17:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed0e9d2f23a0 - Scott Johnson - Bug 847872: Make reflow-on-zoom happen on double-tap only. [r=blassey]
  1726. # [17:01] <mshal> anyone able to push to try? I get stuck at "searching for changes", though my local hg process is idle
  1727. # [17:01] <philor> edmorley / RyanVM : and you might want to chat with bholley about what the https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6be352955252 crash would look like if telemetry does use XPCWrappedJS off-main-thread
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  1733. # [17:04] <philor> and of course with whoever owns telemetry about whether enabling on nightlies but not deps is FUCKING BATSHIT INSANE or RATFUCKING STUPID
  1734. # [17:05] <Olipro> I'm seeing this issue: Error: c:\mozilla-build\ff64\browser\installer\package-manifest:31: Missing file(s): bin/dictionaries/*
  1735. # [17:05] <froydnj> what are deps?
  1736. # [17:06] <Olipro> I have en-GB from l10n-release
  1737. # [17:06] <philor> on-push builds
  1738. # [17:06] <philor> the things that make us think that our pushes are just fine, until 3am the day after they are merged to mozilla-central
  1739. # [17:06] <Olipro> is there a separate tree for dictionaries now?
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  1741. # [17:07] <froydnj> well, what is MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL for dep builds? why is it not "nightly"?
  1742. # [17:07] * philor finally sees that he could have read bugmail over the last 30 minutes instead of chasing after this
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  1744. # [17:08] <philor> it's 'default' or '' depending on where you are, and it's not nightly because if it was, the try build or on-push build you were using to test something would suddenly update to a nightly
  1745. # [17:09] <froydnj> that makes...some sense, I suppose
  1746. # [17:09] <froydnj> what's the "depending on where you are" clause?
  1747. # [17:10] <beltzner> anyone here a bugzilla admin?
  1748. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> glob|away? dkl?
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  1750. # [17:10] <dkl> Ms2ger. hello
  1751. # [17:11] <Ms2ger> beltzner, meet dkl; dkl, meet beltzner
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  1753. # [17:11] <beltzner> dkl: ohai
  1754. # [17:11] <beltzner> can you do me a solid?
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  1756. # [17:11] <beltzner> find and delete the mike@beltzner.ca bugzilla user?
  1757. # [17:11] <beltzner> I think it accidentally got created by Persona
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  1760. # [17:12] <froydnj> if somebody triggers a "nightly" build from inbound, what update channel is that on?
  1761. # [17:12] <RyanVM> jdm: edmorley: but yeah, looping back to our earlier conversation - the Mn failures on inbound and birch are examples of where we seem to hit the timeout
  1762. # [17:12] <@ehsan> beltzner: what's your bugzilla handle these days? :beltzner?
  1763. # [17:12] <beltzner> ehsan: yeah :beltzner - mbeltzner@gmail.com
  1764. # [17:12] <@ehsan> beltzner: cool, I'm gonna as you some ui reviews ;)
  1765. # [17:13] <@ehsan> good old days!
  1766. # [17:13] <beltzner> isn't that how we met?
  1767. # [17:13] <@ehsan> it is :)
  1768. # [17:13] <beltzner> here, I have a 9000 part patch for you
  1769. # [17:13] <@ehsan> and I need the reviews by tomorrow!
  1770. # [17:13] <@ehsan> er, make that today
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  1772. # [17:13] <beltzner> (I bet you still know that bug number by heart)
  1773. # [17:13] <Ms2ger> ehsan, tomorrow? Slacker!
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  1775. # [17:13] <@ehsan> let's see
  1776. # [17:13] <philor> froydnj: nightlies have a MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL=nightly env var, deps have no env var so configure sets it to default, and if somebody triggers a nightly on inbound, then nothing happens because it doesn't do nightlies
  1777. # [17:13] <@ehsan> 248970?
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  1779. # [17:14] <@ehsan> dammit
  1780. # [17:14] <@ehsan> beltzner: I do
  1781. # [17:14] <@ehsan> I need to get some help!
  1782. # [17:14] <beltzner> haha
  1783. # [17:14] <beltzner> <3
  1784. # [17:14] * @ehsan is sort of disturbed!
  1785. # [17:14] <dkl> beltzner, sure
  1786. # [17:15] <beltzner> dkl: gracias
  1787. # [17:15] * froydnj must be misunderstanding what "on-push" builds are
  1788. # [17:15] <edmorley> ehsan: for someone who chooses to work on editor, I thought that was a given? :-)
  1789. # [17:15] <edmorley> Ms2ger: check
  1790. # [17:15] <RyanVM> froydnj: the 'B' on tbpl
  1791. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> edmorley, :)
  1792. # [17:15] <RyanVM> that's a dep build
  1793. # [17:15] <@ehsan> edmorley: define choose!
  1794. # [17:15] <RyanVM> froydnj: the 'N' on tbpl is a nigthly
  1795. # [17:15] <@ehsan> roc tricked me into it ;)
  1796. # [17:15] <froydnj> ah, so
  1797. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you could have resigned ;)
  1798. # [17:15] <@ehsan> back when I didn't know how to say no!
  1799. # [17:15] <RyanVM> tricksy hobbitses
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  1801. # [17:15] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: see that part about not knowing how to say no!
  1802. # [17:16] <froydnj> we don't want tbpl/try builds submitting telemetry, that's why
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  1804. # [17:16] <philor> do you instead want nightly-only bustage?
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  1806. # [17:16] <philor> because that's what you get
  1807. # [17:16] * philor has a brutal sense of deja vu from the last time telemetry broke a nightly
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  1809. # [17:17] <edmorley> froydnj: could we perhaps use a local telemetry server instance to submit to?
  1810. # [17:17] <froydnj> bustage where?
  1811. # [17:17] <philor> mozilla-central builds nightlies every day at 3am
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  1813. # [17:17] <edmorley> froydnj: bug 870782, currently holding m-c closed and meant the firefox for android nightlies had to be pulled
  1814. # [17:18] <philor> too bad about the people who got them before they were pulled
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  1816. # [17:18] <philor> maybe they can get an iPhone
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  1821. # [17:19] <Olipro> what do I need to run in order to generate dictionaries for dist/bin
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  1823. # [17:19] <froydnj> ah, I see
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  1828. # [17:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bed2e2a10c13 - Mike Conley - Bug 867343 - Back out star button UI changes. r=mak.
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  1934. # [17:52] <sfink> wow. According to mach, I have the fastest build ever in progress: it's about halfway through, and mach says it's taken -945 minutes so far.
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  1937. # [17:52] <sfink> On the other hand, each successive timestamp is *more* negative
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  1939. # [17:52] <sfink> I guess it's doing a reverse build or something
  1940. # [17:53] <froydnj> sfink: let us know what the wormhole is like
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  1942. # [17:53] <edmorley> sfink: let's hope it doesn't end up building netscape navigator
  1943. # [17:53] <sfink> froydnj: I already did. Oh, but you wouldn't remember that yet, would you?
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  1949. # [17:55] <sfink> note that this is not evidence for a bug in mach. I've been dd'ing whole disks around, so my timestamps are all funky.
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  1989. # [18:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d90de935ba3 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 869740 - Non-LIFO use of Rooted in XPCConvert::NativeInterface2JSObject(). r=bholley
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  2000. # [18:17] <RyanVM> froydnj: You may want to poke someone on a review.
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  2007. # [18:18] <RyanVM> jdm: looks like that patch is crashing on c-c too :(
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  2010. # [18:18] <jdm> yeah, I'm less surprised about that
  2011. # [18:19] <RyanVM> jwir3: robocop orange that looks related to your push
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  2020. # [18:22] <froydnj> RyanVM: vladan-afk is not known for his lightning-fast reviews =/
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  2022. # [18:22] <RyanVM> froydnj: if you can't find another reviewer, then we should backout jdm's patch
  2023. # [18:23] <RyanVM> m-c needs to be open
  2024. # [18:23] <froydnj> jdm could probably review it if he wanted, since he found the original issue
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  2027. # [18:24] <jwir3> RyanVM: Ok, looking...
  2028. # [18:24] <jwir3> RyanVM: Yep, that's mine. I'm backing out.
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  2033. # [18:25] <RyanVM> jdm: ping
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  2035. # [18:28] <msucan> when i get an xpconnect error of what object is that instance of?
  2036. # [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd7d0d2c53e1 - Scott Johnson - Backout ed0e9d2f23a0 for BUSTAGE. [r=me]
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  2041. # [18:30] <msucan> what i'm trying to do is to detect of a given object is an xpconnect error
  2042. # [18:30] <gps> sfink: mach is using a wall clock timer because python doesn't have a good monotonic timer until 3.x
  2043. # [18:30] <gps> if you put your computer to sleep, you can get builds that take days!
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  2046. # [18:31] <gps> it's fine for 95% of builds and the times aren't used for anything important, so meh
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  2049. # [18:32] <sfink> gps: the initial times were already negative, so whatever it uses for reference time was apparently a day in the future
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  2052. # [18:32] <sfink> and I have a bunch of files from the future right now
  2053. # [18:32] <sfink> not sure how that happened
  2054. # [18:32] <sfink> but yeah, no big deal
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  2056. # [18:33] <gps> sfink: that's worthy of a badge
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  2064. # [18:35] <RyanVM> froydnj: jdm: I'm backing jdm out. We're past 3 hours of m-c being closed today and it's holding up b2g blockers on a deadline day.
  2065. # [18:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aafa476203a4 - Chris Lord - Bug 866461 - Fix constant viewport remeasuring on bing.com. r=mfinkle
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  2067. # [18:36] <RyanVM> bholley ^
  2068. # [18:37] <froydnj> RyanVM: ack
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  2070. # [18:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/385c05262943 - Scott Johnson - Bug 847872: Make reflow-on-zoom happen on double-tap only. [r=blassey]
  2071. # [18:39] <RyanVM> i wish there was a way for me to trigger only android nightlies on a push
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  2075. # [18:39] <mbrubeck> Can you retrigger on the N?
  2076. # [18:39] <mbrubeck> oh, a new push
  2077. # [18:39] <mbrubeck> nm
  2078. # [18:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2673016e7df4 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 6be352955252 and 1bc459138617 (bug 770840) for Android nightly bustage (bug 870782).
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  2082. # [18:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c84eeff5a68 - Geoff Brown - Bug 865006 - (3) Enable more xpcshell tests on Android; r=jmaher DONTBUILD
  2083. # [18:43] <vladan> froydnj RyanVM: reviewing nathan's crash-fix patch now
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  2087. # [18:44] <RyanVM> vladan: no big rush at this point, I already backed jdm out
  2088. # [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f908d830e4c8 - Camilo Viecco - bug 760313 - Enable T-TeleSec GlobalRoot Class 3 root certificate for EV in PSM r=bsmith
  2089. # [18:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d96a6ec94d8 - Camilo Viecco - bug 797952 - Remove EV Treatment for WellsSecure Public Root Certificate Authority r=bsmith
  2090. # [18:47] <joe> so
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  2092. # [18:47] <joe> PL_strcasecmp
  2093. # [18:47] <joe> worst implementation, or worstest implementation?
  2094. # [18:47] <joe> if b is shorter than a, wouldn't we do OOB reads?
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  2100. # [18:49] <jdm> joe: never trust any function that doesn't include safe in the name
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  2102. # [18:50] <joe> apparently it should work because it'll end the loop when it reaches the nul
  2103. # [18:50] <sfink> joe: no, because uc['\0'] == '\0', so if you hit the '\0' in b, you'd stop
  2104. # [18:50] <joe> yeah
  2105. # [18:50] <joe> poor
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  2146. # [19:06] <Waldo> margaret: are you going to be in SF today at your desk, or will I be safe poaching?
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  2148. # [19:06] <margaret> Waldo: i'm in new york, go for it
  2149. # [19:06] <Waldo> \o/
  2150. # [19:07] <Waldo> hmm, I should have remembered that from twittersphere :-)
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  2177. # [19:18] <Waldo> annevk: did end up making it up to SF today, sitting in 7106, to the right of dbaron's desk if you know where that is; stop by and say hi if you're still around :-)
  2178. # [19:19] <@dbaron> Waldo, my old desk or my new desk?
  2179. # [19:19] <Waldo> dbaron: yes
  2180. # [19:19] <Waldo> ;-)
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  2182. # [19:20] <annevk> Waldo: I'm at Google SF at the moment, will be there a bit later
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  2185. # [19:20] <annevk> Waldo: sounds like you're at the desk I was at for the past couple of days
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  2191. # [19:21] <Waldo> annevk: heh, quite possibly! the one with the stuff red fuzzy dinosaur and red panda and such
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  2240. # [19:52] <@bsmedberg> Is there a way to make CSS transitions work on the intrinsic/computed value of a property and not just explicit values?
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  2242. # [19:52] <@bsmedberg> e.g. when I add new lines to a <ul> I want it to grow slowly instead of immediately
  2243. # [19:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82ab6b5d0c03 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 0d90de935ba3 (bug 869740) for mochitest-1 shutdown crashes.
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  2268. # [20:10] <@ehsan> jesup: ping?
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  2272. # [20:11] <jesup> ehsan: pong
  2273. # [20:12] <@ehsan> jesup: I have a question about the MSG
  2274. # [20:12] <jesup> shoot
  2275. # [20:12] <@ehsan> so currently the blocking status for a stream, if I'm reading the code correctly, determines whether the stream produces audio or video
  2276. # [20:12] <@ehsan> since it seems to be checked in PlayAudio and PlayVideo
  2277. # [20:13] <@ehsan> also, it's effective in deciding whether there should be a next iteration
  2278. # [20:13] <@ehsan> but it doesn't prevent the streams from being processed
  2279. # [20:13] <@ehsan> is that correct?
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  2283. # [20:14] <RattyAway> NeilAway: what does "SyntaxError: return not in function" mean?
  2284. # [20:14] <RattyAway> Error: SyntaxError: return not in function
  2285. # [20:14] <RattyAway> Source file: about:certerror
  2286. # [20:14] <RattyAway> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/common/certError.xhtml?mark=89-89#65
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  2288. # [20:15] <@bsmedberg> RattyAway: probably that there's an extra close-brace somewhere?
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  2290. # [20:16] <RattyAway> bsmedberg: hmm I'll check thanks.
  2291. # [20:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7ca39ff01cc - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 863599 - Load PushService on Desktop. r=dougt
  2292. # [20:17] <RattyAway> bsmedberg: oops typo in my code!
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  2295. # [20:17] <NeilAway> RattyAway: too many }s probably
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  2298. # [20:19] <jesup> ehsan: I'll get back to you in a min; chatting with ekr about a review
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  2300. # [20:19] <@ehsan> ok
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  2303. # [20:20] <firebot> mano was last seen 3 days, 1 hour, 57 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying 'will use next time' in #places.
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  2308. # [20:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17bc0e8cfa8b - David Zbarsky - Bug 868312 - Rooting fixes for dom r=bz
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  2319. # [20:36] <jesup> ehsan: ping
  2320. # [20:36] <@ehsan> jesup: hey
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  2322. # [20:37] <jesup> So, blocking. For WebRTC, blocking is an unfortunate evil. We've had to go out of our way to use TrackUnions to turn off blocking
  2323. # [20:37] <@ehsan> I think blocking won't solve what I need to do either
  2324. # [20:38] <@ehsan> I'm probably just going to add my own API... :/
  2325. # [20:38] <jesup> And we still need to do so for the receive side, but my initial patch didn't fly and I haven't gotten back to it
  2326. # [20:38] <jesup> what do you need?
  2327. # [20:38] <@ehsan> jesup: I'm trying to twist MSG to do non-realtime stuff
  2328. # [20:38] <@ehsan> like, producing audio frames as fast as it can
  2329. # [20:38] <jesup> Ah.
  2330. # [20:38] <@ehsan> for offline web audio processing
  2331. # [20:39] * hwine is now known as hwine-food
  2332. # [20:39] <@ehsan> and I need a way to tell the MSG thread, hey, stop what you're doing
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  2334. # [20:39] <@ehsan> which is why I think I should just add my own API
  2335. # [20:39] <@ehsan> not sure how roc would feel about that
  2336. # [20:40] <jesup> ehsan: yeah, not really designed for that. Also you need to be careful about doing too much at once and violating the RT guarantees for MSG
  2337. # [20:40] <jesup> What does "hey, stop what you're doing" mean in this context?
  2338. # [20:40] <@ehsan> jesup: I think I've solved that part already, see the mRealtime checks in MSGImpl::RunThread
  2339. # [20:41] <@ehsan> jesup: it means, stop looping in RunThread
  2340. # [20:41] <@ehsan> I think I'll just return from RunThread
  2341. # [20:41] <@ehsan> and require another call to EnsureRunInStableState in order to resume
  2342. # [20:42] <@ehsan> except that may not be exactly what I wanrt
  2343. # [20:42] * @ehsan is not sure what he really wants...
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  2347. # [20:43] <jesup> ehsan: it sounds like what you want it to use "idle" time to process media (audio)
  2348. # [20:43] <@ehsan> idle time?
  2349. # [20:43] <jesup> without impacting realtime streams in MSG
  2350. # [20:43] <@ehsan> oh
  2351. # [20:43] <@ehsan> this is happening in another MSG instance
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  2354. # [20:44] <@ehsan> I am not changing how the regular singleton works
  2355. # [20:44] <@ehsan> that would be scary!
  2356. # [20:44] <jesup> Ah. And is it lower priority than the realtime one?
  2357. # [20:44] <jesup> I didn't realize we were running multiple MSGs
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  2359. # [20:45] <@ehsan> we're not yet
  2360. # [20:45] <jesup> What happens if you try to make a stream that has a track from each one?
  2361. # [20:45] <@ehsan> but I've added an API for that
  2362. # [20:45] <@ehsan> MediaStreamGraph::CreateNonRealtimeInstance
  2363. # [20:45] <@ehsan> you lose
  2364. # [20:45] <@ehsan> the non-realtime MSG is very specific to web audio needs
  2365. # [20:46] <@ehsan> and probably won't support this kind of thing
  2366. # [20:46] <@ehsan> at least not at this point
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  2368. # [20:46] <jesup> Ok, so long as they're distinct from "normal" streams and tracks the problem probably doesn't come up
  2369. # [20:46] <@ehsan> right
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  2373. # [20:48] <johns> bsmedberg: Do we have any contacts at adobe / anyone to CC on adobe reader bugs
  2374. # [20:48] <@bsmedberg> johns: let me search my email, I have at least one person
  2375. # [20:49] <RyanVM> froydnj: jdm: I assume that the telemetry fix will get a Try run with telemetry enabled before it lands
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  2380. # [20:51] <jesup> ehsan: While we have so-so control of priorities, I'd like to see realtime MSG at a higher priority than non-realtime "bulk" processing, until/unless something at a higher priority needs the result (at which point you bump it to the requester's level). But as I said, I don't know if we can count on this level of control
  2381. # [20:51] <froydnj> RyanVM: writing tests so normal builds will test those bits
  2382. # [20:52] <@ehsan> jesup: I would be fine with running these non-RT MSGs at a lower priority
  2383. # [20:52] <@ehsan> jesup: btw, do you know if roc's gonna be around today?
  2384. # [20:53] <jesup> ehsan: no idea; I think he's done with LEADs, but I don't know when he flies out. Maybe someone in MV/SF can tell you (derf?)
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  2393. # [20:56] <sfink> RyanVM: argh. The M-1 failure was on my try push, but I ignored it because it was also on the inbound parent I used for the try push. Must've been a different M1 failure. :(
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  2395. # [20:58] <jesup> When running an ASAN build, what would cause "undefined symbol: __asan_init" on run from gdb? Just rebuilt after a few weeks, fresh objdir and up-to-date pull from inbound, and am getting this running ASAN
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  2399. # [21:00] <firebot> Check-in:
  2400. # [21:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3b527872ef0 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 869832 - browser_typeAheadFind.js should use whenDelayedStartupFinished and initialize the find bar in the original browser window rather than in the purposefully
  2401. # [21:00] * mcote|lunch is now known as mcote
  2402. # [21:00] <firebot> opened one. r=gavin
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  2406. # [21:01] <sfink> oh. The other M1 prevented the test from reaching my failure. Argh.
  2407. # [21:01] <sfink> have I said "argh" yet?
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  2411. # [21:05] <philor|afk> wait... does that mean... having a crapload of intermittent failures and never fixing them is a bad thing?
  2412. # [21:05] <jorendorff> Is there a way, using XHR, to determine the actual (after all redirects) URL of the resource gotten? assuming the resource is just text, not XML
  2413. # [21:05] * philor|afk is now known as philor
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  2417. # [21:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36401ffaee14 - Raymond Lee - Bug 852478 - Store the date and time of downloads. r=paolo
  2418. # [21:08] <jorendorff> I don't think there is, awesome
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  2420. # [21:09] <sfink> philor: no, this wasn't an intermittent. This was a try push based on a pull of a broken inbound rev.
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  2436. # [21:21] <jlebar> ted: release engineering is not allowed to say that infra load is engineers fault, anymore. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=855282#c24
  2437. # [21:21] <@ted> heh :)
  2438. # [21:22] <@ted> but fair point, if we make recommendations and they don't follow through, not much we can do
  2439. # [21:22] <jlebar> ted: they're also not allowed to say that they're working on it.
  2440. # [21:22] <@ted> jlebar: we did make win32 debug tests faster these past couple weeks
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  2442. # [21:22] <@ted> i accidentally made them faster, and terrence or someone made them faster with a GC change
  2443. # [21:23] <jlebar> lol
  2444. # [21:23] <jlebar> well, that's more than we can say for the other half of this equation.
  2445. # [21:24] <GPHemsley> X-Content-Type-Options is now specced: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2013-May/039561.html
  2446. # [21:24] <@bz> jlebar: :(
  2447. # [21:24] <jlebar> ted: One thing that njn did with MemShrink which seems to have been of outsized important is, he blogs about the progress we did and didn't make, on a regular basis.
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  2450. # [21:26] <jlebar> If there's no accountability outside #developers, we shouldn't be surprised when things don't get done. The past predicts the future, and they continue to sing the same tune.
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  2452. # [21:27] <@bz> jlebar: I assume for this communications thing we're just waiting for qa now, right
  2453. # [21:27] <@bz> jlebar: ?
  2454. # [21:27] <@bz> jlebar: you need the phone back? ;)
  2455. # [21:27] <jlebar> bz: yes. We'll be waiting for a while, I suspect.
  2456. # [21:28] <jlebar> bz: My gift to you.
  2457. # [21:28] <@bz> jlebar: Heh.
  2458. # [21:28] <bent> jlebar, bz, thanks for fixing all that
  2459. # [21:28] <@bz> jlebar: You're in a good mood, I can tell. ;)
  2460. # [21:28] * @bz didn't fix much
  2461. # [21:28] <@bz> mostly fought the build system and stared at logs
  2462. # [21:28] <@bz> and hit the "redial" button a lot
  2463. # [21:28] <jlebar> bz: They call me Mr. Sunshine for a reason. :)
  2464. # [21:28] <@bz> jlebar: do we need to tell someone that I have it now, do you know?
  2465. # [21:28] <@bz> jlebar: Oh, they do, do they?
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  2467. # [21:29] <jlebar> bz: Is there an asset tag on that device? It would be behind the battery.
  2468. # [21:29] <@bz> yes, there is
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  2470. # [21:29] <jlebar> bz: Then we should tell someone, but I have no idea who.
  2471. # [21:30] <@bz> ok. Gimme a sec
  2472. # [21:30] * @bz tries to recall where this sort of stuff lives
  2473. # [21:30] <@bz> ah, servicenow
  2474. # [21:30] <@bz> Amazing how reading intranet pages that don't mention it can still jog memory
  2475. # [21:31] <@bsmedberg> "pick your wiki software" is now "
  2476. # [21:31] <@bsmedberg> pick your bugtracker"
  2477. # [21:31] <@bz> Heh
  2478. # [21:31] <jlebar> bsmedberg++
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  2480. # [21:31] <@bz> mmm
  2481. # [21:31] <@bz> it's not lost or stolen....
  2482. # [21:31] <@bz> it's not a hardware request...
  2483. # [21:31] <jlebar> lol
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  2490. # [21:33] <sfink> pick your wiki, your bugtracker, your revision control system, your OS, your editor, and your compiler, and you can live in your own happy little slice of Mozilla that's so much better than all the others
  2491. # [21:34] <jlebar> sfink: at least we all still use IRC.
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  2493. # [21:34] <jlebar> sfink: So we can all complain together.
  2494. # [21:34] <sfink> oh, right, pick your irc channel too
  2495. # [21:34] <@dolske> work great until someone else has to deal with your little slice. :)
  2496. # [21:34] <@bz> jlebar: except the people using whats-its-name
  2497. # [21:35] <@bz> jlebar: the social network thingie that some people are using
  2498. # [21:35] <jlebar> bz: yammer?
  2499. # [21:35] <@bz> Yeah, that one. ;)
  2500. # [21:35] <jlebar> people use that instead of IRC?
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  2503. # [21:35] <@bz> Dunno!
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  2505. # [21:35] <jlebar> ah, lol. "Maybe!"
  2506. # [21:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e8256901aa1 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 868598 - Create a pointer to gaia in gecko, r=catlee
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  2509. # [21:37] <@bz> jgriffin++
  2510. # [21:37] <jgriffin> :)
  2511. # [21:38] <@bz> jlebar: irc wins again; who-has-what database has been updated. ;)
  2512. # [21:39] <@bz> jlebar: or so I'm told, at least.
  2513. # [21:39] <jlebar> bz: Thanks for taking care of that.
  2514. # [21:39] <@bz> No problem.
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  2517. # [21:41] <cpeterson> I accidentally CMD+DEL'd a folder for containing 5 mozilla hg clones. Time for lunch while my Mac finishes trashing my files before I can even attempt to restore them... :(
  2518. # [21:42] <@bz> er
  2519. # [21:42] * @bz would think Cmd+del should be instant....
  2520. # [21:42] <@bz> But what do I know?
  2521. # [21:43] <cpeterson> I think the Trash needs to remember whence the files came so it can restore them in the right place. This will probably take an hour. :|
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  2523. # [21:44] <WeirdAl> How is it MOCHITEST_CHROME_FILES are .html, .xul, while MOCHITEST_BROWSER_FILES are .js? :) Seriously, how does that work for the latter?
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  2525. # [21:47] <philor> mochitest-chrome is content tests run with chrome privileges; browser-chrome is chrome tests, js injected into the browser window's scope
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  2528. # [21:48] <WeirdAl> huh. I'm being asked to convert a bunch of mochitest-browser tests into mochitest-chrome tests.
  2529. # [21:48] <WeirdAl> I wonder what the best way to do that is.
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  2537. # [21:51] <WeirdAl> I might write a little python to do it for me
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  2542. # [21:53] <WeirdAl> msucan: ^^
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  2545. # [21:54] <msucan> WeirdAl: ?
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  2548. # [21:55] <WeirdAl> just thinking aloud about how to port the tests per your request
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  2550. # [21:55] <jesup> what library on linux provides __asan_init?
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  2552. # [21:56] <froydnj> libasan, with very recent gcc or clang
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  2559. # [21:57] <jesup> bz, jlebar: We do need something with more permanence than IRC, but unfortunately we've had three of them (news, forum (now virtually dead) and yammer). and yammer is virtually unsearchable (though it has pretty pictures and "follow" and all that social-network junk)
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  2562. # [21:58] <@bz> jesup: yeah
  2563. # [21:58] <jesup> and newer people find the entire idea of newsgroups foreign
  2564. # [21:58] <@bz> jesup: it's sad
  2565. # [21:58] <@bz> jesup: :(
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  2568. # [21:58] <@bz> jesup: Makes me feel old. :(
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  2570. # [21:58] <jhammel> my isp doesn't have a nntp server
  2571. # [21:59] <tbsaunde> I don't know of a nntp program I like :/
  2572. # [21:59] <@bz> hmm
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  2574. # [21:59] <tbsaunde> jesup: logs of irc are pretty perminant, but not really searchable well
  2575. # [22:00] <@bz> does python map produce a list or a generator?
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  2577. # [22:00] <@bz> Looks like a list
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  2581. # [22:01] <jesup> tbsaunde: yeah, but IRC is filled with way too much random noise for long-term information or non-realtime-conversation
  2582. # [22:01] <jesup> the latter being an important part that forums or news provide
  2583. # [22:02] <jesup> especially
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  2585. # [22:02] <jesup> tbsaunde: Gnus, if you're an emacs person
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  2589. # [22:03] <jesup> Most ISPs nowadays probably go "nntp? what's that?" It used to be like 30% of internet traffic....
  2590. # [22:03] <@bsmedberg> now netflix is 30% of all internet traffic ;-)
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  2592. # [22:04] <tbsaunde> jesup: true, and no
  2593. # [22:04] <reuben> 30%?! that's mostly binaries + yEnc, right?
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  2598. # [22:04] <@bsmedberg> bz: do you need the iterable version of map?
  2599. # [22:04] <@bz> bsmedberg: nah, I can just use a comprehension
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  2601. # [22:05] <@bz> bsmedberg: any(foo(x) for x in mything)
  2602. # [22:05] <@bsmedberg> because there's itertools.imap
  2603. # [22:05] <@bz> bsmedberg: vs any(map(foo, mything))
  2604. # [22:05] <@dolske> netflix? more like bitto^H^H^H^H^H yes, netflix. ;)
  2605. # [22:05] <sfink> how do I show the content of file X in commit Y with git? |git show Y X| seems to give me the diff of file X between commit Y and Y+1 or something.
  2606. # [22:05] <froydnj> bz: gah, always forget about list comprehensions
  2607. # [22:05] <@bz> froydnj: ;)
  2608. # [22:05] * froydnj blames lisp
  2609. # [22:05] <@bz> froydnj: I loved them, then I overused them. Now I probably still overuse them. ;)
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  2611. # [22:05] <@bz> froydnj: heh
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  2614. # [22:06] <@bz> froydnj: map in a side-effect-free world can be lazy, of course
  2615. # [22:06] <@bz> froydnj: but no one has accused python of being side-effect-free
  2616. # [22:06] <@bsmedberg> hah
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  2618. # [22:07] <@bz> froydnj: btw, are you going through binding includes in general?
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  2620. # [22:07] <froydnj> bz: I still need the check for "Pref" on desc.interface, yes? or just the members?
  2621. # [22:07] <@bz> froydnj: because I would be somewhat interested in reducing the .pp suck
  2622. # [22:07] <@bz> froydnj: you need it on the iface and the members both
  2623. # [22:07] <froydnj> bz: I was running include-what-you-use in dom/bindings/; those headers seemed like the easiest targets
  2624. # [22:07] <reuben> sfink: git show Y:X (obviously! how could you not know that!)
  2625. # [22:08] <@bz> froydnj: I'd be interested in seeing the output
  2626. # [22:08] <froydnj> a number of *Binding.h headers aren't needed, depending on the file =/
  2627. # [22:08] <sfink> reuben: yep, thanks. Just found the stack overflow page that told me that!
  2628. # [22:08] <@bz> froydnj: hmm
  2629. # [22:08] <@bz> froydnj: would love to see it
  2630. # [22:10] <froydnj> bz: will pass along, let me run it on a copy resembling tip
  2631. # [22:10] <@bz> Thanks!
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  2635. # [22:11] <jlebar> bz: python3 map produces a generator.
  2636. # [22:11] <philor> jwir3: so about that patch you backed out and relanded... are you sure what you relanded was what you wanted to land?
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  2642. # [22:14] <froydnj> doh, I didn't see the + [iface] there
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  2652. # [22:21] <jwir3> philor: hm... no... why?
  2653. # [22:21] <philor> jwir3: same old failure again
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  2655. # [22:21] <jwir3> philor: seriously?
  2656. # [22:21] <jwir3> philor: guh
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  2658. # [22:22] <jwir3> philor: I see grey all the way across the screen...
  2659. # [22:22] <philor> jwir3: I just glanced at the two pushes, but they sort of look like the exact same thing again
  2660. # [22:22] <jwir3> philor: they are very similar, but different
  2661. # [22:23] <philor> jwir3: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1 - unstarred helps to focus on the things that matter
  2662. # [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f322756d551a - Dão Gottwald - Bug 869832 followup, use the test window's gBrowser
  2663. # [22:23] <jwir3> philor: ah I see. Sigh. I guess I'll backout again
  2664. # [22:24] <philor> (until you have to get out of it to find out why it didn't fail on the push below you, a bad DONTBUILD, or yours, which got coalesced)
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  2668. # [22:25] <jwir3> philor: This patch passed on try... https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=761ec855b4dc
  2669. # [22:25] <jwir3> philor: I thought they were the same
  2670. # [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90103dbe8f38 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 870959 - don't include Preferences.h or NonRefcountedDOMObject.h in bindings unless necessary; r=bz
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  2677. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36618922eb84 - Scott Johnson - Backout 385c05262943 for android robocop failures.
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  2679. # [22:28] <philor> jwir3: take a hard look at things that landed between your Tuesday morning parent cset and now, somebody screwed you over ;)
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  2681. # [22:28] <jwir3> philor: grrr
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  2690. # [22:36] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: wait, you don't like any of the Gecko products that speak nntp?
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  2695. # [22:38] <jesup> anyone running ASAN builds under linux recently?
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  2697. # [22:40] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: no, gui email / nntp sucks
  2698. # [22:40] <froydnj> decoder: ^
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  2719. # [22:53] <RyanVM> philor: ooo, I think we officially have our first bustage from something that originated on birch
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  2721. # [22:53] <philor> RyanVM: yeps, was just about to say that
  2722. # [22:54] <philor> jlebar wins the prize!
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  2725. # [22:54] <philor> what was it again? a ride on the 101 on a superbike, without a helmet?
  2726. # [22:55] <RyanVM> sounds about right
  2727. # [22:56] <RyanVM> oh jlebar.....
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  2731. # [22:57] <jimb> So, nsIWindowMediatorListener's onOpenWindow gets called when the new top-level window still has no gBrowser. How can I catch the creation of a new top-level window's first tab, if there's no tabContainer yet to listen for "TabOpen" events on?
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  2735. # [23:00] <jcranmer> what's this?
  2736. # [23:00] <jcranmer> I go to write a patch to fix IMAP issues only to find out that the offending patch on m-c was backed out?
  2737. # [23:01] <@bz> RyanVM: don't back him out
  2738. # [23:01] <@bz> RyanVM: where's the bustage?
  2739. # [23:01] <RyanVM> bz: would be nice to know where he is
  2740. # [23:01] <jld> Sadly{{cn}}, I can't retroactively have unchecked the boxes for Bugzilla not to send me mail about my own comments....
  2741. # [23:01] <@bz> RyanVM: I can help look, if you tell me which tree
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  2743. # [23:02] <RyanVM> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=22833750&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  2744. # [23:02] <RyanVM> and soon m-c
  2745. # [23:02] <@bz> ugh
  2746. # [23:02] <@bz> ok
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  2748. # [23:02] <RyanVM> officially the first time we've been burned by tests not running on birch
  2749. # [23:02] <jcranmer> firebot: uuid
  2750. # [23:02] <firebot> 6639b938-9240-4925-b237-1b9fc51ed2e9 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
  2751. # [23:02] <@bz> oh
  2752. # [23:02] <@bz> no tests on birch. :(
  2753. # [23:03] <@bz> ok
  2754. # [23:03] <@bz> so wait
  2755. # [23:03] <RyanVM> yeah, we run "b2g" tests only on birch
  2756. # [23:03] <@bz> this is android only
  2757. # [23:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1aa1a744777b - Shane Caraveo - bug 870473 limit number of ambient notification icons, r=felipe
  2758. # [23:03] <@bz> not b2g?
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  2760. # [23:03] <RyanVM> appears that way
  2761. # [23:04] <@bz> That sucks
  2762. # [23:04] <@bz> ok
  2763. # [23:04] <@bz> let me see which of his patches might have at least affected android
  2764. # [23:04] <@bz> bent: ping
  2765. # [23:05] <bent> bz, here
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  2767. # [23:05] <@bz> bent: any idea what in jlebar's patches could have affected android wakelock stuff?
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  2769. # [23:05] <bent> erm
  2770. # [23:05] <bent> which patches?
  2771. # [23:05] <@bz> 23714 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/content/html/content/test/test_video_wakelock.html | Test timed out.
  2772. # [23:05] <bent> he landed a bunch recently
  2773. # [23:05] <@bz> bent: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/rev/150241980e66
  2774. # [23:06] <@bz> https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/rev/aee46daa2262
  2775. # [23:06] <@bz> https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/rev/3044afa610b2
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  2779. # [23:06] <@bz> bent: hmm... I thought you had reviewed, but maybe not
  2780. # [23:06] <bent> probably all of them :)
  2781. # [23:06] <bent> i did the first
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  2783. # [23:07] <@bz> So clearly the wakeock stuff is relevant...
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  2787. # [23:08] <bent> the second patch fixes redundant (and probably racy) notifications
  2788. # [23:08] <jlebar> bz: yes.
  2789. # [23:08] <bent> so maybe that too
  2790. # [23:08] <jlebar> bz: I added an additional wake lock notification that could be breaking the test.
  2791. # [23:08] <@bz> jlebar!
  2792. # [23:08] <jlebar> bz: there's a comment in the bug
  2793. # [23:09] <@bz> wish this test had more than two messages to its name. :(
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  2795. # [23:09] <@bz> So we could tell how far it actually gets...
  2796. # [23:09] <jlebar> bz: I don't have a lot of sympathy; the android wake lock implementation is completely wrong, and they have been unresponsive in fixing it.
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  2798. # [23:10] <@bz> jlebar: fun
  2799. # [23:10] <jlebar> bz: I don't see this file in trunk or b2g18.
  2800. # [23:10] <@bz> jlebar:: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/html/content/test/test_video_wakelock.html?force=1 ?
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  2804. # [23:11] <jlebar> oh, it's very new
  2805. # [23:11] <jlebar> I reviewed it.
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  2807. # [23:11] <jlebar> :-/
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  2809. # [23:11] <Waldo> wchen: not sure where you sit, but if you want to see those maps, swing by margaret's desk at some point -- I've got 'em out there
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  2812. # [23:12] <jlebar> RyanVM: I've been given a tef+ blocker to land before eod. Can you disable this test and file a bug?
  2813. # [23:13] <jlebar> RyanVM: I reviewed this test, so I bless that change. The failure is benign and expected.
  2814. # [23:13] <RyanVM> jlebar: I'm currently trying to un-hork b2g18
  2815. # [23:13] <RyanVM> which shockingly didn't take kindly to having a mess of blockers all landed on it at once
  2816. # [23:14] <jlebar> RyanVM: well, maybe someone will beat you to it. I'm sorry, but I have a patch that I've been asked to crash-land.
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  2818. # [23:15] <RyanVM> jlebar: given that I'm the only one around, I doubt it
  2819. # [23:15] <RyanVM> i'll just close inbound for now
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  2827. # [23:17] <@bz> RyanVM: I can try to do the disable+file dance
  2828. # [23:17] * @bz has things he wants to check in
  2829. # [23:17] <RyanVM> bz: should just have to add it to android.json
  2830. # [23:17] <@bz> yeah
  2831. # [23:17] * @bz is on it
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  2833. # [23:18] <RyanVM> thx
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  2836. # [23:21] <@bz> RyanVM: the string is just why it's disabled, yes?
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  2838. # [23:22] <RyanVM> yeah
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  2840. # [23:23] <@bz> "Rev ae239730d3b8 needs a bug number."
  2841. # [23:23] <@bz> oh, for crying out loud.
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  2849. # [23:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d852d10691a4 - Boris Zbarsky - Disable probably-broken test to reopen a CLOSED TREE. No bug, except the one filed to reenable, which is not the bug this changeset is fixing, so there.
  2850. # [23:24] <RyanVM> lol
  2851. # [23:24] <jhammel|lunch> ha
  2852. # [23:25] <RyanVM> philor would be proud
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  2868. # [23:30] <gandalf> mconnor: ping
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  2877. # [23:39] <jlebar> lol
  2878. # [23:39] <jlebar> thanks, bz.
  2879. # [23:41] <@bz> jlebar: no problem
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  2883. # [23:43] <jlebar> bz: Did you ever get JS stack dumps working on b2g?
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  2893. # [23:54] <cviecco> what is the best channel to ask about chrome mochitests?
  2894. # [23:54] <kbrosnan> #ateam ?
  2895. # [23:55] <cviecco> kbrosnana: thanks
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