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# Session Start: Wed May 22 00:00:00 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:01] <glosoli> Doh these friggin select boxes drives me nuts ;/
# [00:03] <mounir> jwalden: why do you want .valueAsDate to be pref' controlled?
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# [00:05] <jwalden> mounir: because if type=date doesn't produce a date-typed input element, valueAsDate is going to not evaluate to a Date object, or will throw if set -- not simply act as if it weren't there, which is the case in legacy engines that don't support date inputs
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# [00:23] <@ted> bleh, one of the reftest sanity tests is failing for me
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# [00:32] <reuben> philor: should I make the treestatus bot announce inbound closures in this channel?
# [00:33] <reuben> maybe the reason why something like that doesn't exist already is because you want people to actually look at TBPL before pushing…
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# [00:34] <jwalden> reuben: policy is explicitly that you don't have to look before pushing
# [00:34] <jwalden> which is perhaps faintly crazy, but it is what it is
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# [00:35] <philor> people go on and on and back and forth about putting it in the topic and not putting it in the topic and announcing it and not
# [00:35] <philor> I mostly wait for their fingers to stop moving
# [00:36] <jwalden> it's not an argument, it's a contradiction
# [00:38] <reuben> well, in that case, I'll leave it silent. you can say "treestatus, watch mozilla-inbound" and it'll PM you next time it changes
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# [00:39] <reuben> also "watch foo permanently", and "stop watching foo"
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# [00:40] * philor wants backoutbot
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# [00:41] * jwalden ponders what outbackbot would do
# [00:42] <Mossop> Google Analytics seems broken in Nightly but not Aurora. Hopefully if I just ignore that it'll fix itself
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# [00:43] <philor> outbackbot: bring me a bloomin' onion
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# [00:44] <philor> backoutbot: back out both baku's patches
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# [00:45] <philor> and perhaps ahal, perhaps he's not as much of an innocent bystander as he wants us to think
# [00:46] <reuben> well, we just need an implementation and two vouchers
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# [00:46] <philor> but, anyway, yeah: the "you should never look before pushing and never look after pushing" thing is certainly a possibility
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# [00:47] <philor> but because we have professional sheriff coverage from 2am to 2pm, if you want to be able to push outside those hours and before I get home from work, well, tough shit, should have pushed earlier
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# [00:53] <mounir> jwalden: so, back in the days when it was implemented, making it not available based on a pref wasn't trivial at all
# [00:54] <mounir> jwalden: we could definitely change that but I'm certain this is terribly useful because .valueAsDate has different behaviour depending on the type of the element
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# [00:55] <jwalden> mounir: do you want to bet that nobody's feature-testing for type=date support using |"valueAsDate" in document.createElement("input")|? I wouldn't bet on it, but that's what we're doing now
# [00:55] <jwalden> mounir: at least by not having it at all, it doesn't cause anything to throw
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# [00:57] <NeilAway> jwalden: no it isn't
# [00:58] <jwalden> NeilAway: not-looking being faintly crazy?
# [00:58] <NeilAway> (sorry, scrollback)
# [00:58] <jwalden> yeah, I tried correcting for that :-)
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# [00:58] <NeilAway> jwalden: <jwalden> it's not an argument, it's a contradiction
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# [00:58] <jwalden> oh
# [00:59] <jwalden> NeilAway: yes it is!
# [00:59] <NeilAway> jwalden: :-)
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# [01:00] <philor> oh, neat, the Win mochitest-1 failure must be yet another needs-clobber thing
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# [01:01] <philor> we should have a hook that requires touching /CLOBBER if your push touches... well, anything
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# [01:08] <philor> "Services.HealthReport.HealthReporter INFO Request to perform daily maintenance."
# [01:08] <philor> is that something I should be seeing in the middle of a (failing) test run?
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# [01:16] <mounir> jwalden: I believe that most people check if 'date' is implemented by checking if .type = 'date' is working
# [01:16] <mounir> jwalden: but sure, it's a risk and we weighted it when type = 'date' was implemented behind a pref
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# [01:16] <mounir> jwalden: but there was no WebIDL back in the days so the options were not really numerous
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# [01:20] <jwalden> mounir: sure; seems like now it's basically trivial to fix, tho
# [01:22] <mounir> jwalden: indeed
# [01:22] <mounir> jwalden: did you open a bug?
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# [01:22] <jwalden> mounir: yeah, bug 874640
# [01:23] <@ted> djvj: ping
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# [01:32] <mounir> jwalden: I will probably write a patch tomorrow
# [01:32] <jwalden> cool
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# [01:57] <markh> mattwoodrow: ping
# [01:58] <mattwoodrow> markh: pong
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# [01:58] <markh> mattwoodrow: hi! I'm playing with billm etc on e10s for desktop, and have found a number of problems on windows when browser.tabs.remote is set to true...
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# [01:59] <markh> so (a) is it worth opening a bug, and (b) suggestions for who I should cc?
# [01:59] <xuku> Quick newbie question, what is the pinging and ponging for?
# [01:59] <nalexander> xuku: it's just getting somebodies attention.
# [01:59] <nalexander> xuku: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_%28networking_utility%29
# [01:59] <markh> xuku: and to check if they really are here or not...
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# [02:00] <xuku> nalexander: okay, thats what I was thinking... thanks!
# [02:00] <mattwoodrow> markh: Yep, definitely. CC Bas and I at least
# [02:00] <mattwoodrow> and the graphics section of about:support would be useful
# [02:00] <markh> ok, thanks, will do.
# [02:00] <markh> ok
# [02:00] <markh> mattwoodrow: and what component?
# [02:01] <mattwoodrow> probably core :: Graphics : Layers
# [02:01] <markh> thx
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# [02:37] <markh> billm: done
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# [02:37] <billm> thanks
# [02:37] <markh> billm: I narrowed its scope though to just panels...
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# [02:37] <markh> most about: pages also fail for me (and seem to work on linux), but I'm not sure that is related
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# [03:12] <jfkthame> hmm, which orange is keeping inbound closed at the moment? it looks pretty averagely orange to me...
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# [03:14] <philor> that's why I was changing the closure message while you were typing that
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# [03:15] <philor> though the 25 unstarred and unfiled oranges at the moment are more like 25 times average for unstarred
# [03:15] <philor> well, fewer than 25 since some are the win8 thing I'm no longer willing to call intermittent
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# [03:18] <jfkthame> you mean the bug_871156 failure? yeah, that looks pretty consistent
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# [03:28] <philor> cute, looks like every single retrigger plans on being green
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# [03:43] <dholbert> rillian, really? should be a tools menu item to remove it
# [03:44] <dholbert> if this is the same social UI we added support for a few months back
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# [03:46] <rillian> dholbert: yes, it's the social api thing. I reset the prefs and it the icon changed to a cloud, but I can't drag it out of the toolbar
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# [03:47] <jfkthame> if you disable the Facebook Messenger add-on it should go away, i think
# [03:47] <jfkthame> sorry, "service", not add-on
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# [03:48] <seth> philor: for my inbound push actually
# [03:48] <seth> philor: it apparently got backed out due to assertions but i can't see what's wrong =\
# [03:49] <seth> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=fea91386092f won't load for me
# [03:49] <philor> seth: shift+reload? tbpl got updated today, and sometimes it agressively over-caches
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# [03:49] <philor> can you load https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23200338&tree=Mozilla-Inbound?
# [03:49] <seth> philor: hmm, loaded OK in a different browser actually. seems like it is a cache issue indeed; thanks!
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# [03:50] <@dveditz> ooh, evil. rillian is right, social button is completely unmoveable
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# [03:50] <jfkthame> that's kinda anti-social behavior
# [03:50] <@dveditz> <rimshot/>
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# [03:51] <seth> shouldn't have pushed two bugs with one push
# [03:51] <seth> sigh
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# [04:24] <@ehsan> khuey|tw: what?!
# [04:24] <@ehsan> get out of there sir, or I'll call the cops!
# [04:24] <@ehsan> private property and all
# [04:24] <@khuey|tw> IRC claimed I was the channel owner :-P
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# [04:34] <philor> OPEN
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# [05:13] <philor> "honestly, what I want is for once for someone else to take the tiniest bit of responsibility for something" probably isn't a good bug comment, is it?
# [05:14] <@bz> Well
# [05:14] <@bz> It might be good.
# [05:15] <@bz> Diplomatic, on the other hand...
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# [05:16] <philor> on a different matter, does anyone object to throwing mochitest-webgl on Android 2.2 on Tegras under a bus to save it on Android 4.0 on Pandas?
# [05:16] <philor> no?
# [05:17] <philor> jgilbert: ^ you can have a visible mochitest-gl on Android in a couple of hours, want it?
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# [05:17] <ekr> Is there someone here who is an admin on the mozilla github account? Want to add some of the taiwanese WebRTC guys
# [05:17] <@bz> philor: we have to burn the mochitest to save it
# [05:17] <@bz> philor: ?
# [05:18] <philor> exactly!
# [05:19] <philor> a hypothetical employee could hypothetically sit down for a couple of weeks, split apart the fails- and skipped- files between the two Androids, and um uh, rewrite the harness to open each subtest in a separate window and then close it, maybe, but that isn't going to happen
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# [05:20] <philor> so we have a single skipped file with the things that crash on tegras, without the things that crash on pandas, and a fails file with things that pass on pandas, and short of that rewrite tegras will continue to time out 20% of the runs and be hidden anyway
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# [05:23] <philor> and the choices look like "continue to run them both hidden and failing for a couple of months, and then I'll come back even more mad and get them both shut off" or "have the one on modern enough hardware to actually run be green and visible in a couple of hours"
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# [05:24] <philor> well, or "unicorns"
# [05:25] <@khuey|tw> unicorns are an excellent choice
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# [05:26] <philor> yep, that's the one chosen by 100% of viewers of http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000K8LV1O/
# [05:26] <philor> as I understand it, they're all still sitting in their living rooms, waiting for the unicorns they are wishing for to appear
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# [05:54] <dholbert> aja, thanks!
# [05:55] <aja> so that means the spec gets changes later this week?
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# [05:57] <dholbert> heh
# [05:58] <dholbert> aja, if so, it's preffable anyway :)
# [05:58] <dholbert> aja, the #ifdefs have been obsolete for a while now
# [05:59] <dholbert> they were just there before we had good support for about:config-pref-control of CSS properties
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# [06:00] <aja> dholbert: who's taking/taken on grid?
# [06:00] <dholbert> aja, not sure yet
# [06:00] <dholbert> aja, I might
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# [08:28] <darktrojan> is there code to get a string ("three days ago") from a date somewhere in the tree?
# [08:29] <reyre> darktrojan: NS_LITERAL_STRING("three days ago")
# [08:30] <@khuey|tw> lol
# [08:30] <darktrojan> hah
# [08:30] <reyre> wait ha, i might have misread your question
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# [08:32] <jfkthame> darktrojan: the icu date formatter supports this, at least to some extent - see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/intl/icu/source/i18n/unicode/datefmt.h
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# [08:36] <darktrojan> that's if I ever get around to writing this patch
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# [08:37] <jfkthame> darktrojan: if you don't need "relative" dates, then nsIScriptableDateFormat should provide all you need
# [08:38] <darktrojan> I don't need them, I want them :)
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# [09:44] <Gijs> NeilAway: uhm, that doesn't make sense.
# [09:44] <Gijs> the function itself is the
# [09:44] <Gijs> |this| for that call?
# [09:44] <Ms2ger> Why not? ;)
# [09:44] * Gijs presumes you mean obj.foo.apply(obj, [bar,baz])
# [09:44] <Gijs> well, right, but in that case there isn't a problem.
# [09:45] <Gijs> in what I just wrote, there's essentially no reason not to write obj.foo(bar, baz), AFAICT.
# [09:45] <Gijs> Ms2ger: by the way, do you ever sleep?
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# [09:45] <Ms2ger> Nah
# [09:45] <Ms2ger> Not enough, at least
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# [09:46] <Gijs> but yeah, may want to look into that, I hear it's healthy and all. :)
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# [10:04] <Gijs> So I'm confused. I'm looking at a browser mochitest which fails 100% of the time on tbpl (UX branch), only on OS X, but passes fine on my local machine (also OS X). The test has this check in it: navigator.platform.contains("Mac"), before running the code that breaks on tbpl (it's trying to use menu popups which aren't present on OS X, AFAICT)
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# [10:04] <Gijs> is there some reason that test wouldn't detect OS X correctly on tbpl?
# [10:04] <Gijs> (but would on my local machine)
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# [10:07] <edmorley> Gijs: I don't see why that shouldn't work?! :-s (http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=navigator.platform)
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# [10:07] <edmorley> Gijs: link to failure?
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# [10:07] <Gijs> edmorley: sadly our UX builds are a little heavy on the orange (trying to get it back to normal!), but here you go: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=UX&rev=95c1125909b9
# [10:08] <Gijs> These are the OS X mochitest bc tests
# [10:08] <Gijs> eg. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23234681&tree=UX
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# [10:08] <edmorley> thank you, looking
# [10:09] <Gijs> edmorley: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/test/social/browser_social_toolbar.js is the test in question.
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# [10:14] <Standard8> Gijs: the navigator.platform test passes
# [10:14] <Standard8> Gijs: see two lines above https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23234681&tree=UX#error0
# [10:14] <edmorley> Gijs: yeah I was about to say, you see Skipping checking the menubar on Mac OS
# [10:14] <Standard8> Gijs: I think the issue is there's no return statement here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/test/social/browser_social_toolbar.js#57
# [10:15] <edmorley> Gijs: the UX repo file is also in sync with m-c fwiw
# [10:15] <Gijs> edmorley: yeah, I know, but then why isn't this failing on m-c? :s
# [10:15] <Standard8> the test passes on trunk?
# [10:15] <edmorley> Standard8: it passes locally
# [10:15] <Gijs> well, if we're in sync, and it's not flaming orange on m-c/m-i, I would assume so.
# [10:16] <Gijs> and yeah, it passes locally when ran against UX.
# [10:16] <Standard8> sounds like timing to me
# [10:16] <Gijs> Running all the tests from the social dir also passes locally.
# [10:16] <Gijs> mm.
# [10:16] <Standard8> yeah, this could totally be timing
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# [10:17] <Gijs> Standard8: so if I'm hearing you right, add return statements on the if (navigator...) blocks and see if that fixes it?
# [10:17] <Standard8> I think you need to do something with that platform check
# [10:17] <Standard8> Gijs: yes, or take out those navigator blocks
# [10:17] <joe> seth: orange on your push
# [10:18] <joe> seth: 2.55 + if (!mImageSurface->CairoStatus()) should be if (mImageSurface && mImageSurface->CairoStatus())
# [10:18] <Standard8> Gijs: from a quick glance, I'm not sure if the failures on mac are just being hidden, or if the tests do actually pass. That's something for detailed log analysis
# [10:18] <seth> joe: yup, looks like it
# [10:18] <seth> joe: will back out and repush
# [10:19] <Gijs> Standard8: you're talking m-c now, right?
# [10:19] <edmorley> seth: I'll do it :-)
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# [10:19] <edmorley> seth: (already queued)
# [10:19] <Standard8> Gijs: well, any really
# [10:19] <Gijs> OK.
# [10:19] <seth> edmorley: no complaints here =) sorry about that
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# [10:19] <joe> my goodness europe is awake now!
# [10:19] <Gijs> joe: yeah, 10.20am in central, 9.20 in England. ;)
# [10:20] <freddyb> I am trying to apply a local patch queue but a few bits failed. the MDN doc suggests that I "go and fix the bits of my patch that conflict". this part is not very helpful :)
# [10:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de5af3547894 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 11de174da4a4 (bug 873455) for assertions
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# [10:20] <freddyb> I thought I have set up a merge tool which I thought could help me (never tried it). "hg merge" says there is just one head and I have .rej files now
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# [10:21] <Gijs> Standard8: OK. I'm not clear how you'd take out the navigator blocks? I mean, the menupopup tests can't pass on OS X...
# [10:21] <freddyb> what's do people do here? I could just try to rewrite my patch against the most current version but that doesn't feel very scalable/smart to me, once more changes happen..
# [10:21] <joe> freddyb: at this point you need to look at the .rej files and modify the .cpp files (or whatever) manually
# [10:21] <Gijs> Standard8: you could do an if/else block rather than a return, but you'd still need to test.
# [10:21] <Gijs> Standard8: unless you mean to #ifdef the entire thing?
# [10:21] <Standard8> Gijs: ok, if they defintiely don't pass, then I'd just suggest adding the return statement
# [10:21] <Gijs> OK :)
# [10:21] <freddyb> joe: do I have to rewrite my patch everytime somebody touches the file I'm working on? :/
# [10:22] <edmorley> the merge tool should help you
# [10:22] <joe> freddyb: no; hg pull --rebase with your mq patches applied will get you most of the way there
# [10:22] <edmorley> freddyb: just make sure you are using a recent version of mercurial, anything lower than 2.5.x is broken for rebase
# [10:23] <NeilAway> Gijs: it apparently dates back to the original CrashRestore extension
# [10:23] <freddyb> ah. mh... hg 2.2.2 on ubuntu 12.10.
# [10:23] <dholbert> freddyb, alternately, if you qpush the patch and it fails, you can manually revert it and reapply it with fuzz, using the 'patch' command
# [10:23] <dholbert> freddyb, there's a ppa for newer mercurial
# [10:23] <Gijs> NeilAway: r+ with a nit, I guess?
# [10:23] <NeilAway> Gijs: ?
# [10:24] <Gijs> NeilAway: or are they actually using the function as the |this|
# [10:24] <Gijs> (link?)
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# [10:24] <NeilAway> Gijs: the current version of the code is here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/SessionStore.jsm#3520
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# [10:25] <edmorley> freddyb: also see the "Using a graphical merge tool" section on http://hgbook.red-bean.com/read/a-tour-of-mercurial-merging-work.html
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# [10:26] <Gijs> NeilAway: huh, yeah, that's just weird.
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# [10:26] <freddyb> thanks for all the comments so far :)
# [10:26] <freddyb> edmorley: I don't appear to have two heads though?!
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# [10:27] <Gijs> NeilAway: setTimeout(this.restoreDimensions.bind(this), 0, ...args);
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# [10:27] <Gijs> (or did we get rid of that syntax? I forget)
# [10:28] <edmorley> freddyb: hmm maybe that wasn't the page I was thinking of, I wanted one with the hgrc settings
# [10:28] <NeilAway> wchen: ooh, bug 856858 happened to me yesterday, nice to see it fixed already
# [10:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c115f48ef9e4 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 784519 - Part 1: Enforce State Transition Rules in SIPCC r=ehugg
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# [10:28] <freddyb> edmorley: I have a merge tool set in .hgrc though.
# [10:28] <edmorley> freddyb: and it didn't open?
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# [10:29] <freddyb> when would it? :/
# [10:29] <freddyb> I did qpop, update, pull, qpush and then I get .rej files
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# [10:30] <edmorley> freddyb: normally at the point at which the qpush couldn't patch automatically
# [10:30] <NeilAway> Gijs: yeah, I miscopied it, you were right about foo.bar.apply(foo, [baz]) - I didn't see your reply because I wasn't watching the channel and you didn't address me
# [10:30] <joe> instead you can just pull, then merge
# [10:30] <joe> don't qpop/qpush
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# [10:30] <Gijs> NeilAway: oh, right. Oops. :)
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# [10:30] <edmorley> joe: we don't allow merges like that
# [10:30] <edmorley> people are expected to rebase
# [10:30] <joe> well, then you could just pull --rebase
# [10:30] <edmorley> but that's a rebase, not a merge
# [10:31] <edmorley> which is fine :-)
# [10:31] <joe> rebase opens the merge tool too
# [10:31] <joe> when necessary :)
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# [10:32] <freddyb> edmorley: is there a way to make it start manually? I don't even get an error about this
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# [10:34] <joe> freddyb: not once you've got the .rej files
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# [10:34] <freddyb> I could qpop and remove the .rejs to go back though? :p
# [10:34] <edmorley> freddyb: correct :-)
# [10:35] <freddyb> I don't want to go through rej files if I don't have to...I suppose this problem will not only come up just now but probably every other pull ;)
# [10:36] <Gijs> freddyb: use the pull --rebase thing and you won't have to go through this. I *think* you could probably get the same result now by qpop'ing, up-ing to the revision before the pull, qpushing, and then invoking hg rebase yourself. (or something along those lines)
# [10:36] <freddyb> I have all my diff settings in ~/.hgrc, does the .hg/hgrc in my mozcentral dir conflicht with it? (the latter just contains the [default] part)
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# [10:37] <Gijs> but check with edmorley and others because I'm not an hg wizard. :)
# [10:37] <Ms2ger> But after using rebase, always qpop and qpush all patches
# [10:37] <Ms2ger> Because it's notoriously broken
# [10:37] <joe> the .hg/hgrc in mozilla-central doesn't conflict
# [10:38] <freddyb> I'd prefer not having to use ubuntu PPAs in general, but it looks like a newwer hg version, would be more helpful, eh? :/
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# [10:41] <hdelassus> Hi everyone
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# [10:41] <Leonard> we are four french students and we will work with padenot in audio/video part
# [10:42] <Leonard> bug 533840
# [10:42] <hdelassus> We = Bastien MaxP Leonard and /me :)
# [10:42] <freddyb> yay, welcome :)
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# [10:43] <Leonard> thx
# [10:44] <Leonard> really not as our other little projects... :-D
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# [10:46] <edmorley> hdelassus, Leonard: welcome :-)
# [10:47] <Leonard> thank you! is there a lot of active contributors?
# [10:47] <Ms2ger> A few thousand?
# [10:48] <padenot> heh
# [10:48] <NeilAway> freddyb: if you follow Ms2ger's advice to qpop and qpush after each rebase, that should reduce your problems
# [10:48] * freddyb starts using a PPA for hg then
# [10:48] <padenot> we also have a few people that could account for a few dozen on their own
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# [10:48] <Ms2ger> Distinguished engineers? ;)
# [10:49] <padenot> :-)
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# [10:58] <freddyb> ok, I'm back to no .rej files. I pulled, updated and have an unapplied patch here. how do I qpush with rebase now? :p
# [10:59] <freddyb> qpush and then pull --rebase? nah...qpush gives me .rej files
# [10:59] <Ms2ger> hg up [revision your patch applies on]
# [10:59] <Ms2ger> hg qpu
# [10:59] <Ms2ger> hg rebase
# [11:00] <Ms2ger> I guess
# [11:01] <freddyb> nothing to rebase :/
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# [11:05] <Gijs> freddyb: do |hg parents| and |hg tip| have different revisions?
# [11:05] <freddyb> mhhh nope
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# [11:06] <Gijs> freddyb: if you do |hg heads|, does that show your last mq changeset, and some other (recent) changeset ?
# [11:07] <Gijs> (may need to pipe that through your pager of choice...)
# [11:07] <freddyb> it shows my changeset and then a changeset from m-c below
# [11:08] <Ms2ger> Protip: |hg heads .| with the period will give you only the relevant heads
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# [11:08] <Gijs> freddyb: OK. So it's hard for me to be sure, but I guess the state we expect you to be in is to have current m-c tip in one head, and your patch queue as another head. You essentially need to find the top revisions of each, and do an |hg rebase -b [your patch queue revision] -d [m-c tip revision]|
# [11:09] <Gijs> Ms2ger: does that look correct to you, too?
# [11:09] <Ms2ger> I dunno, I avoid rebase like the plague
# [11:09] <freddyb> :d
# [11:09] <freddyb> :d
# [11:09] <freddyb> damn caps
# [11:09] <freddyb> :D
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# [11:10] <Gijs> freddyb: so can you pastebin the output of |hg heads .| ?
# [11:11] <freddyb> I tried the rebase -b, -d...wiat a sec:)
# [11:11] <Gijs> Ah, OK. :)
# [11:11] <freddyb> it got me .rej files again xD
# [11:11] <Gijs> OK, then that sounds like there are issues with your hgrc merge settings, tbh... :)
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# [11:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/817b52332101 - Seth Fowler - Bug 873455 - Add assertions for imgFrame::Init failure. r=joe
# [11:13] <freddyb> my hgrc looks pretty cool to me....http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2430366
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# [11:18] <freddyb> I'll just rewrite the damn patch
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# [11:24] <freddyb> I have no idea what I did but now I'm stuck at an earlier version and can't pull/update to something newer -.-
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# [11:26] <dholbert> freddyb, are you not version-controlling your .hg/patches directory?
# [11:26] <dholbert> freddyb, if not, I highly, highly recommend that
# [11:27] <freddyb> uh
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# [11:27] <freddyb> best case, they are in bugzilla for the important milestones ;P
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# [11:29] <freddyb> "hg heads" now says that I'm on top of a changeset from march, I dont know why (63405:c408cb353a74)
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# [11:31] <freddyb> *sigh* brb..
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# [11:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/854cc3673ef1 - Jan Varga - Bug 860183 - Sync IDB mochi-tests with IDB xpcshell-tests. r=bent
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# [11:41] <Yoric> ttaubert: What do you think of adding a kill switch, as suggested by ehsan?
# [11:42] <ttaubert> Yoric: yeah... might've been a good idea but it's a little late now? or are you talking about that saveState/AsyncRunner patch only?
# [11:42] <Yoric> I'm talking about everything, including stuff that has landed already.
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# [11:43] <ttaubert> Yoric: there's stuff in beta and aurora and I'm not sure I'll find the time to work on that to be honest
# [11:43] <ttaubert> even *if* we'll get that backported
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# [11:44] <Six> hi
# [11:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b5a9cd5032d - Chris Pearce - Bug 870400 - Calculate audio timestamps for WMF based on audio frames played, rather than trusting the container's timestamps. r=padenot
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# [11:44] <Six> is there a way to compile all .idl files on .h without do a make on mozilla-central?
# [11:45] <Six> i tried with xpidl.py but some failed to be generated
# [11:45] <Yoric> ttaubert: On Beta already?
# [11:45] <Yoric> Gasp.
# [11:45] <ttaubert> Yoric: iirc. there is something in 22.
# [11:46] <Yoric> In that case, indeed, this may be difficult.
# [11:46] <Ms2ger> Six, doubt it
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# [11:47] <ttaubert> Yoric: ok maybe I was wrong. can't find anything that landed in 22 right now
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# [11:51] <Yoric> mak: ping
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# [11:51] <mak> Yoric: hi
# [11:51] <Yoric> ttaubert: Do you think it's still time to do something?
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# [11:51] <Yoric> mak: I have a question about AsyncClose. I have the impression that closing is still done on the main thread, is that true?
# [11:52] <mak> Yoric: no impressions, it's true
# [11:52] <Yoric> mak: How comes?
# [11:52] <Yoric> And is this something that can/should be fixed with the mozIAsyncStorage?
# [11:53] <Six> Ms2ger: thanks :)
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# [11:53] <Ms2ger> Np
# [11:53] <ttaubert> Yoric: if we do it we should do it for __SS_data and __SS_restoreState. the other stuff shouldn't affect add-ons. maybe __SS_tabStillLoading as well. probably not _SS_dyingCache
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# [11:54] <Six> Ms2ger: but is there a specific rule in Makefiles to only generate them? cause i can't do a full compilation on this machine so have to wait until back home...
# [11:54] <Yoric> ttaubert: sounds fair
# [11:54] <mak> Yoric: I think the problem there is that we still don't have async shutdown. I think it would be really good to move close (also for synchronous connections) to the async thread, but as you know close also ensures Durability, and doing it asynchronously may not ensure it's completed. Though it could be possible to somehow sneak it into the async thread and use xpcom-shutdown-threads to...
# [11:54] <mak> ...enforce it (since the events loop gets spinned when the thread is merged back)
# [11:54] <mak> Yoric: so, while you could do that in the pure-async connection case, I also think it would be good for any kind of connection
# [11:54] <Ms2ger> Six, I think it's part of export
# [11:55] <mak> Yoric: just that we must pay attention to ensure it will be able to complete before the process end
# [11:55] <Yoric> mak: ok, gotcha
# [11:55] <Yoric> Shall I open a bug?
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# [11:55] <mak> Yoric: yes, it would be welcome, actually that discussion already started in another bug where vladan reported close taking lots of time, let me find it
# [11:56] <mak> Yoric: ah yes, bug 867798, so you could file a bug in Storage that blocks 867798
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# [12:01] <firebot> Check-in:
# [12:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7098b685633 - Markus Stange - Bug 861332 - Ensure that the drawing rect used for DrawWindowOverlay doesn't depend on the window's position on the screen, so that for example the 10.6 window resizer
# [12:01] <firebot> is drawn in the correct place. r=mattwoodrow
# [12:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/331851701133 - Markus Stange - Bug 871590 / Bug 625989 - Add basic support for -moz-appearance: -moz-window-titlebar on OS X. Partly written by Mike Conley. r=josh
# [12:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bd49cfa6711 - Markus Stange - Bug 871590 - Make unified titlebar / toolbar handling more robust. r=roc
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# [12:04] <Yoric> mak: Filed as Bug 874814.
# [12:04] <mak> Yoric: thanks
# [12:05] <Yoric> ttaubert: I'll open a bug.
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# [12:21] <Six> Ms2ger: i'm looking for ti thank you
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# [12:26] <mga> is there anyone knowing well enough the new download manager and why it's designed this way?
# [12:26] <mga> because there's a user complaining about it, apparently
# [12:26] <mga> bug 874324, if you wish
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# [12:28] <darktrojan> gah nooo
# [12:28] <darktrojan> I have to rebuild :(
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# [12:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a801c3516c0 - David Zbarsky - Bug 874770 - Always enable OMTA throttling r=nrc
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# [12:34] <edmorley> mga: I've adjusted bug dependencies and CCed mak
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# [12:35] <mak> mga: fwiw, this is plan of changes http://blog.bonardo.net/2013/04/30/new-download-experience-post-mortem
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# [12:37] <mga> thank you edmorley and mak :)
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# [12:38] <freddyb> https://twitter.com/MozillaDoors/status/337155316921802755 :)
# [12:40] <Gijs> :)
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# [12:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2133f018b1c3 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 873926 - Don't store a scroll state if we never have been scrolled or restored a previous scroll state. r=roc
# [12:53] <darktrojan> ah! I see Unfocused has been reviewing on about:support bugs
# [12:53] <darktrojan> excellent
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# [13:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc987f828c72 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 867596 - Stop calling nsSVGUtils::InvalidateBounds in nsSVGTextFrame2, and use DLBI instead. r=longsonr
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# [13:40] <RyanVM> cpearce: http://youveburnedmytree.ytmnd.com/
# [13:40] <RyanVM> dammit
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# [13:41] <Six> RyanVM Loving it :)
# [13:41] <RyanVM> would have been better if he'd been here to see it
# [13:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9db7bc3a2631 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 9b5a9cd5032d (bug 870400) for Windows mochitest-1 failures.
# [13:42] <Six> what happend with him?
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# [13:43] <RyanVM> he logged out?
# [13:44] <Six> :)
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# [13:44] <Six> no... was talking about the site message
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# [13:52] <RyanVM> oh, heh
# [13:52] <RyanVM> see ^ :)
# [13:53] <msucan> RyanVM: what's happening with the ctrl-w test?
# [13:54] <RyanVM> msucan: beats me
# [13:54] <msucan> it seems caused by some patch that landed after the web console changes.... any ideas which?
# [13:54] <RyanVM> looks like it was perma-fail for awhile yesterday
# [13:54] <RyanVM> and then went away
# [13:54] <RyanVM> philor may know more when he signs on later
# [13:55] <RyanVM> msucan: the starring from a little bit ago was catching up from last night's bustage still
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# [13:58] <msucan> oh ok
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# [13:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca1c9453a8de - Adrian Tamas - Bug 833832 - Robocop: Add test for Import from Android feature. r=jmaher
# [13:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74c44f375275 - Sebastian Wong - Bug 563884 - Add styling for the link tag and add reftests. r=bz
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# [14:00] <RyanVM> mstange: not looking good for you...
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# [14:01] <RyanVM> mstange: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23256416&full=1&branch=mozilla-inbound#error0
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# [14:02] <mstange> RyanVM: looking
# [14:03] <mstange> RyanVM: interesting! backing out
# [14:03] <RyanVM> CLOSED TREE in the commit message :)
# [14:03] <mstange> thanks
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# [14:05] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, note that https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74c44f375275 had conditional review :)
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# [14:06] <RyanVM> ah, yes
# [14:06] <RyanVM> i'll fix that up next time I'm pushing
# [14:06] <mstange> RyanVM: do I need CLOSED TREE in all four backout changesets?
# [14:07] <mstange> or should I just use one merged inverse patch?
# [14:07] <RyanVM> mstange: only the top cset (though if you use qbackout, you can do the entire backout in one cset ;) )
# [14:07] <mstange> interesting
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# [14:09] <RyanVM> you can also do the same with mq
# [14:09] <RyanVM> qnew, qbackout, qref, qbackout, qref, etc
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# [14:10] <Gijs> If I change a Makefile.in to remove some mochitests, what bits do I need to rebuild in order to get a subsequent ./mach mochitest-a11y path/to/test/dir/ to pick up on the change to that list? :)
# [14:10] <Six> is there someone available who could someone answer my few questions on bug 497491 (static analysis)
# [14:11] <Ms2ger> Gijs, top-level, I think
# [14:11] <Gijs> I tried rebuilding the top tests dir, and got a message about the "backend change", it rebuilt stuff and seemed to "work", but then when I re-run the tests, I don't see a difference.
# [14:11] <Gijs> Ms2ger: seriously? :(
# [14:11] <Gijs> That's super painful on my windows machine.
# [14:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2861d9fba479 - Markus Stange - Backed out 2 changesets (bug 871590) CLOSED TREE
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# [14:13] <Ms2ger> Gijs, you can also manually remove them from objdir/_tests
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# [14:13] <Ms2ger> Gijs, otherwise they'll remain there until http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/Makefile.in#43 runs
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# [14:14] <Gijs> Ms2ger: ok, thanks, that sounds easier. :)
# [14:14] <Ms2ger> Np
# [14:17] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: taking the opportunity to fix up a few others in the list while I'm at it
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> \o/
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# [14:25] <Six> jcranmer are you available to answer some question about Bug 497491 (static analysis)?
# [14:26] <jcranmer> probably
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# [14:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1add7f1eeb40 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 857845 part 3 - Remove JM JSAPI flags, memory reporters and browser prefs. r=djvj
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# [14:59] <nemo> hrm. Just ran into the weirdest regression in Nightly
# [15:00] <nemo> if I make a clean profile and go to https://duckduckgo.com/html/ then click on dropdown for searches and choose Add then try to run a search using search bar...
# [15:00] <nemo> I end up on the main DDG search instead.
# [15:00] <nemo> If I do the exact same thing in Stable in a clean profile, it works fine.
# [15:00] <nemo> tested in clean profiles on linux and windows
# [15:01] <nemo> (that is, instead of running the search, I end up on the DDG search page)
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# [15:02] <nemo> opening up Network toolbar in nightly I just see a GET for duckduckgo.com
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# [15:03] <nemo> Stable shows a POST
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# [15:06] <nemo> search.json and searchplugins/duckduckgo-html.xml appear to be identical in both test profiles...
# [15:06] <nemo> so something changed in Firefox' handling it seems
# [15:07] <nemo> the search plugin itself seems pretty sane. uses https ofc
# [15:07] <nemo> maybe that's choking nightly?
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# [15:08] <nemo> but. no. google search uses https now too. admittedly no POST
# [15:08] <nemo> hm. maybe just POST is broken...
# [15:08] <nemo> that's kind of a DDG specific thing, part of their privacy stuff
# [15:08] <nemo> yeah. DDG is the only search using POST
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# [15:10] <nemo> also only one not using x-suggestions
# [15:10] <nemo> gosh. who knows what could have gotten broken
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# [15:11] <glandium> bsmedberg: does that sound weird to you too? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873866#c5
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# [15:12] <RyanVM> msucan: just starred a new instance of ctrlw
# [15:12] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I don't understand what he's saying.
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# [15:13] <glandium> bsmedberg: so it does make even less sense to you than it does to me :)
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# [15:13] <glandium> i'm kind of relieved
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# [15:15] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874870
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# [15:17] <mkaply> where do the telemetry people hang out?
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# [15:17] <glandium> mkaply: #perf
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# [15:22] <glandium> bsmedberg: looks like he's just very out of date
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# [15:44] <mkaply> Does anyone know what causes that new popup to appear at the bottom of Firefox? IT seems telemetry related but maybe it's health report? It seems to randomly appear (and of course I can't make it appear to figure out where it is in Firefox)
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# [15:45] <Gijs> mkaply: are you talking about an infobar?
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# [15:46] <mkaply> Gijs: Well I guess it's an info bar, but it appears at the bottom.
# [15:46] * Gijs doesn't understand if that's what you mean by "popup" or not.
# [15:46] <Gijs> Is there no text in it? :)
# [15:46] <mkaply> Gijs: Yeah, there is text, but I didn't write it down. It seems related to telemetry or health reporting or something.
# [15:46] <mkaply> But it's not like pre FF 21 where it appears on second run
# [15:47] <mkaply> It seems to appear randomly
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# [15:47] <Gijs> It sounds like the health report notification, which unless something changed, takes silence as consent and won't prompt you again the second time. Easy way to test would be creating a new profile and, this time, check what it says...
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# [15:48] <mkaply> Gijs: I did create a new profile, but I never got the popup. That's what's confusing me. IT doesn't appear to just show up. Maybe it's after a couple days?
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# [15:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/695bd830b27b - Brian Hackett - Bug 871075 - Add rooting analysis warnings for unsafe address taken of variables DONTBUILD
# [15:49] <Gijs> mkaply: try asking in #fhr :)
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# [15:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7797e189beb - Ryan VanderMeulen - No bug - Fix up reftest list order. DONTBUILD
# [15:49] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: ^ there, penance served
# [15:50] * Ms2ger passes RyanVM a beer
# [15:50] <Ms2ger> Thank you, kind sir
# [15:50] <Ms2ger> In other news, people are bad at numbers
# [15:50] <RyanVM> bz: I'd pushed Bug 563884 without reordering the reftest list, so there's my fix :)
# [15:51] <RyanVM> yeah, no kidding
# [15:52] <@bz> RyanVM: ;)
# [15:53] <Ms2ger> !summon bholley
# [15:53] <@bz> RyanVM: In fairness, I would have expected the patch author to post an updated patch there.
# [15:53] <RyanVM> bz: yeah, would have been the nice thing to do
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# [15:59] <Gijs> It seems google analytics broke us (at least Fx 21) yesterday or the day before, with people getting completely blank pages and an error message in the console about document.write trying to write an unbalanced document tree. Any idea if there's anything we can do about that and/or if we have contacts at Google who can fix this?
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# [15:59] <Gijs> (seen two bugzilla reports about this just in the last couple of hours, so I figured I might as well ask)
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# [16:00] <Ms2ger> That's not an error message, that's just a perf warning
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# [16:00] <Gijs> OK. :)
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# [16:01] <Gijs> bug 874830, fwiw.
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# [16:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c1b755912e76 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 794937 - Make updates work from the Metro front end, add handling for 1 instance handling updates. r=rstrong
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# [16:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/18d884c5e7df - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 794937 - Updater callback should launch Metro Firefox when updating from Metro Firefox. r=rstrong
# [16:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6066b9d92032 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 861322 - Make Metro read Desktop app.update.mode setting. r=jimm
# [16:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a7cad4e202e1 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 835151 - Add updates to the Metro flyout. r=rstrong
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# [16:24] <nemo> ugh. I hate it when I'm bisecting something.
# [16:24] <nemo> and I screw up
# [16:24] <nemo> and I end up narrowing down on nothing ☹
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# [16:26] <RyanVM> philor: whee, a !NSS PR_Lock crash :)
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# [16:28] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, apparently there's a rck PR_Lock separate from the "just another nss_cert" thing, which for bonus fun is sometimes an empty minidump and sometimes a nonempty one with no info
# [16:28] <philor> we should probably clone to a new bug that mentions the probability of it also being "unknown top frame"
# [16:28] <RyanVM> i see a NOT THE NSS CRASH in that bug's summary in the near future
# [16:29] <philor> can't we just shut off every old branch?
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# [16:29] <philor> 23 is ancient by now, who would care about testing on it?
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# [16:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/24997e3446b1 - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 865828: Update NSPR to NSPR_4_10_BETA2. r=wtc.
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# [16:41] <msucan> RyanVM|brb: i'm going to take a look at that intermittent failure today asap
# [16:42] <msucan> in the mean time, please feel free to disable the test
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# [16:54] <gbrown> philor, RyanVM: I just coincidentally filed bug 874898 -- is that a dup now?
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# [16:57] <philor> don't think so, I think that's the very thing we were waiting for :)
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# [17:00] <philor> except that it has to be two separate [@ PR_Lock][@ nsThread::GetObserver] to be suggested
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# [17:01] <RyanVM|brb> should we put something in the summary to separate it from 761987?
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# [17:01] <RyanVM|brb> msucan: thanks :)
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# [17:04] <RyanVM> gbrown: there we go, now it'll show up on tbpl
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# [17:05] <gbrown> thanks. I wasn't sure of the details -- knew that someone would fix it for me :)
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# [17:09] <nemo> mozilla-central/config/rules.mk:32: *** Variable DIRS is defined in /tmp/ff-objdir-mc/accessible/Makefile. It should only be defined in moz.build files. Stop.
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# [17:09] <nemo> wut?
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# [17:10] <Ms2ger> Putting objdirs in /tmp, eh?
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# [17:15] <glandium> nemo: the error message is pretty self-explanatory
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# [17:17] <nemo> glandium: what I don't understand is that the build created ff-objdir-mc
# [17:17] <nemo> it didn't exist moments ago
# [17:17] <nemo> mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/tmp/ff-objdir-mc
# [17:17] <nemo> rm -rf /tmp/ff-objdir-mc make -f client.mk same error
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# [17:18] * nemo comments out the DIRS just to see what will happen
# [17:18] <nemo> aaaand MODULE
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# [17:19] <glandium> nemo: what is shocking about the build creating a directory you tell it to use?
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# [17:20] <nemo> glandium: what's shocking is the build erroring on files it created
# [17:21] <glandium> nemo: accessible/Makefile is created from accessible/Makefile.in
# [17:21] <glandium> nemo: so the problem is in that file
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# [17:27] <Ms2ger> glandium, lies
# [17:27] <Ms2ger> glandium, there is no accessible/Makefile.in
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# [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2718954757e1 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 874869 - Disallow setting AudioNode.channelCount to zero; r=roc
# [17:33] <evilpie> ehsan: ping
# [17:33] <@ehsan> evilpie: hi
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# [17:33] <evilpie> hey!
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# [17:33] <evilpie> is isWindowPrivate really using a DOMWindow ?
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# [17:34] <@ehsan> evilpie: as in PrivateBrowsingUtils.isWindowPrivate?
# [17:34] <evilpie> yep
# [17:34] <@ehsan> hmm, maybe :)
# [17:34] <Ms2ger> Looks like it
# [17:34] <@ehsan> it wants something which returns an interface requestor
# [17:34] <@ehsan> which has an nsIWebNavigation
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# [17:35] <@ehsan> evilpie: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/modules/PrivateBrowsingUtils.jsm#24
# [17:35] <evilpie> so browser would work, right?
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# [17:37] <@ehsan> evilpie: what do you mean by browser?
# [17:37] <evilpie> actually gBrowser.webNavigation
# [17:37] <@ehsan> hmm
# [17:38] <@ehsan> probably not
# [17:38] <@ehsan> but should be easy to make that work
# [17:38] <NeilAway> ehsan: can you still remember pb stuff, like making cookies work when private windows open popups?
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# [17:38] <@ehsan> NeilAway: what do you mean?
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# [17:39] <evilpie> ehsan: I am asking, because some addon seem to be using PrivateBrowsingUtils.isWindowPrivate(getBrowser().contentDocument.defaultView) which is not so good in e10s
# [17:39] <@ehsan> evilpie: ok
# [17:39] <@ehsan> evilpie: what should they be using instead of the dom window?
# [17:40] <@ehsan> evilpie: note that the private bit _should_ live in the child process, I think...
# [17:40] <NeilAway> ehsan: well, I was trying to port per-window pb mode to SeaMonkey, but I can't get private popups to share with their openers
# [17:40] <evilpie> well something on the chrome side, browser.webNavigation
# [17:40] <@ehsan> evilpie: but _if_ you have access to the main browser.xul window, then you can just use that
# [17:40] <evilpie> ehsan: no big deal, we already transfer ton of information from content to chrome about one browser
# [17:41] <@ehsan> evilpie: presumably it should be easy to just cache that value on the <xul:browser> if needed, since it will never change
# [17:41] <@ehsan> NeilAway: huh
# [17:41] <evilpie> that would work
# [17:41] <@ehsan> NeilAway: are you inheriting the private flag into the popup window?
# [17:41] * @ehsan tries to remember where that code lives
# [17:42] <NeilAway> ehsan: the popup window thinks it's private, yes
# [17:42] <@ehsan> NeilAway: so what's the problem?
# [17:42] <evilpie> ehsan: btw PrivateBrowsingUtils.isWindowPrivate(gBrowser.webNavigation) works
# [17:42] <NeilAway> ehsan: in Firefox the popup window manages to share state with its opener, and I can't figure out what I need to port to get that to work
# [17:43] <@ehsan> evilpie: really?!
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# [17:43] <@ehsan> NeilAway: if you're only worrying about cookies, then I would expect things to just work as long as the correct private flag is set...
# [17:43] <evilpie> well webNavigation has an interface requestor
# [17:43] <@ehsan> let me check
# [17:43] <@ehsan> evilpie: oh, well, yeah in that case it should work
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# [17:44] <@ehsan> NeilAway: so, can you set cookies in the popup window at all?
# [17:44] <@ehsan> NeilAway: will they get associated with the non-private DB?
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# [17:49] <NeilAway> ehsan: hmm, well, curiouser and curiouser
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# [17:49] <NeilAway> ehsan: I can log in to MDN from a private window, but not mozillians (but I can log in to mozillians from a normal window)
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# [17:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8b7bfd871a9 - Jonathan Kew - bug 871961 pt 3 - annotate failing svgglyphs reftests. r=roc
# [17:50] <@ehsan> NeilAway: break in nsCookieService::SetCookieStringInternal and nsCookieService::GetCookieStringInternal
# [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b77d5e403c3d - Jonathan Kew - bug 871961 pt 4 - on xpcom-shutdown notification, release any SVG-glyphs documents held by fonts. r=roc
# [17:50] <@ehsan> and watch the aIsPrivate arguments
# [17:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8f3694dd6df - Jonathan Kew - bug 871961 pt 2 - add text-svgglyphs subdirectory to the master layout/reftests manifest. r=roc
# [17:50] <@ehsan> NeilAway: and make sure they match what you expect
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# [17:50] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I _think_ all of the code responsible for this stuff lives outside of browser/
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# [17:54] <NeilAway> bah
# [17:54] <NeilAway> stupid private clipboard
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# [17:58] <@ehsan> NeilAway: ?
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# [18:04] <NeilAway> ehsan: oh, I copied something out of a private window that I wanted to keep, but forgot that it would get cleared
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# [18:07] <RyanVM> msucan: fwiw, the failure seems to be win8-only
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# [18:08] <RyanVM> msucan: i'll be watching the Try run
# [18:08] <msucan> RyanVM: sure, but i don't have any win system to test with... unfortunately
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# [18:08] <msucan> also thanks for watching the try run
# [18:09] <@ehsan> cdiehl: decoder: what's the best way to convince gdb to break when asan detects an error?
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# [18:09] <cdiehl> ehsan: setting a bp on asan_error
# [18:10] <cdiehl> hm __asan_error that is
# [18:10] <@ehsan> hmm
# [18:10] <RyanVM> ehsan: http://youveburnedmytree.ytmnd.com/
# [18:10] <@ehsan> cdiehl: you mean __asan_report_error?
# [18:10] <@ehsan> that doesn't work
# [18:11] <@ehsan> RyanVM: dammit, our build system doesn't know how to do shit :(
# [18:11] <@ehsan> RyanVM: should I just touch clobber?
# [18:11] <RyanVM> ehsan: whatever floats your boat
# [18:11] <@ehsan> ok
# [18:11] <@ehsan> sorry
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# [18:12] <@ehsan> gps: ping?
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# [18:14] <RyanVM> ehsan: i've clobbered win32 and retriggered the jobs
# [18:14] <@ehsan> oh
# [18:14] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I just landed a CLOBBER change
# [18:14] <RyanVM> that's fine
# [18:14] <@ehsan> ok
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# [18:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e52c6f7200b3 - Ehsan Akhgari - Follow-up to bug 874869: Clobber the builds, because the build system sucks
# [18:14] <RyanVM> still going to want that for landing on m-c and such
# [18:14] <@ehsan> right
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# [18:18] <gps> ehsan: what?
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# [18:18] <@ehsan> gps: see bug 874923
# [18:19] <gps> oh, this is likely a bz regression :/
# [18:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3389f3d96fc - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 874448 - OS X customization mode doesn't have dragover border indicators on toolbarpaletteitems, r=dao
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# [18:19] <@ehsan> sigh
# [18:20] <@bz> er
# [18:20] <@bz> This should work
# [18:20] <@bz> Ehsan: can you reproduce locally?
# [18:20] <@ehsan> bz: no
# [18:20] * @bz tested this a bunch....
# [18:20] <gps> bz, ehsan: I'm guessing this is a pymake bug
# [18:21] <@ehsan> bz: well, my tree is like a day and a half old
# [18:21] <@bz> _That_ I would believe
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# [18:21] <@ehsan> could be
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# [18:21] <@bz> If pymake fails to produce $? correctly or something....
# [18:21] <@bz> hm
# [18:21] <@bz> What do you use?
# [18:21] <@ehsan> gnu make
# [18:21] <@ehsan> (on mac)
# [18:21] <@bz> ok
# [18:21] <@bz> so I _definitely_ tested the hell out of it on Mac
# [18:21] * @ehsan doesn't use windows
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# [18:21] <cdiehl> ehsan: try setting a bp at "AsanDie" or use "ASAN_OPTIONS=abort_on_error=1" that will let gdb stop after asan reported a crash.
# [18:21] <@bz> oh, wait
# [18:21] <@bz> I see, it burned on windows
# [18:22] <@bz> so you can't reproduce locally since you're not on windows, ok
# [18:22] <@bz> and neither can I
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# [18:22] <@bz> This is not good. :(
# [18:22] <@ehsan> cdiehl: tried them both, AsanDie doesn't even exist, and setting ASAN_OPTIONS seems to trigger an abort too late
# [18:22] <@ehsan> cdiehl: i.e. I can't get a useful stack
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# [18:22] <@ehsan> bz: so does that mean that from now on we need to clobber if we touch *.webidl?
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# [18:23] <@bz> ehsan: it means we need to back my patches out or fix pymake, I expect
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# [18:23] <@bz> gps: do you have time to look into this?
# [18:23] <@ehsan> bz: :(
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# [18:23] <@bz> ehsan: clobbering on every webidl touch is not acceptable
# [18:23] <@ehsan> bz: agreed
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# [18:23] * @bz thinks
# [18:24] <nemo> glandium: well. I certainly didn't make any changes to it. was just bisecting a narrow range of a few days in May
# [18:24] <gps> bz: I'll try to look at this today. although may not have reliable access to Windows machine
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# [18:24] <nemo> glandium: anyway. commenting out those variables seems to allow the build to work well enough for my needs
# [18:24] <Ms2ger> When is khuey waking up? :)
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# [18:24] <@bz> gps: so I can also ifdef things on windows...
# [18:24] <@bz> gps: to just always assume all webidl files changed
# [18:25] <@bz> gps: so we try regenerating the world
# [18:25] <nemo> also /accessible/tests/Makefile
# [18:25] <@bz> gps: that seems strictly better than what we had before, still
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# [18:25] <@ehsan> gerv: ping
# [18:25] <@bz> gps: esp. if I can detect "Windows" inside BindingGen.py
# [18:25] <gerv> ehsan: pong.
# [18:25] <gps> bz: ifdef .PYMAKE
# [18:25] <@ehsan> gerv: do you know about DONTBUILD?
# [18:25] <@bz> gps: hmm
# [18:26] <@bz> gps: one sec
# [18:26] <gerv> I know about it, but its existence never seems to pop into my head at the appropriate moment...
# [18:26] <gerv> You just add DONTBUILD to the commit message, right?
# [18:26] <@ehsan> gerv: ok, np :) just wanted to provide a gentle reminder :)
# [18:26] <@ehsan> gerv: yes
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# [18:26] <gerv> And if you forget, you can hg rollback and do it again?
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# [18:26] <@ehsan> gerv: no
# [18:26] <gerv> (Before pushing)
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# [18:27] <@ehsan> oh yes
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# [18:27] <@ehsan> before pushing
# [18:27] <@bz> So
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# [18:27] <gerv> After pushing it's too late :-)
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# [18:27] <@ehsan> gerv: indeed!
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# [18:27] <gerv> Or is there some way of cancelling builds from tbpl?
# [18:27] <@ehsan> gerv: I think that's not kosher
# [18:27] <@bz> we really need someone to reproduce on Windows
# [18:27] <@ehsan> gerv: in that our infra can't deal with canceled builds properly
# [18:27] <@ehsan> gerv: and then you'll end up burning the next build on that slave
# [18:27] <@bz> because the fix is different depending on whether the problem is with $? or with something else...
# [18:28] <@ehsan> bz: presumably someone can do a full build, apply my patch, and then do a dep build on top of it?
# [18:28] <@bz> yeah
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# [18:28] <@bz> if someone has a Windows build env
# [18:28] <gps> bz: I /think/ you can build with pymake on OS X
# [18:28] <@bz> oh?
# [18:28] <gps> haven't tried that in a while
# [18:28] <@ehsan> bz: I do have one, but I don't have time :(
# [18:29] <@bz> ok
# [18:29] <@bz> I'm not sure I have time either, but this needs to be fixed
# [18:29] <@bz> gps: any instructions?
# [18:29] <@ehsan> cdiehl: so any other tips?
# [18:30] <cdiehl> ehsan: ask ekr, he dealt with the same problem lately
# [18:30] <gps> bz: build/pymake/make.py -f client.mk
# [18:30] <gps> requires a clobber
# [18:30] <@bz> gps: ok
# [18:30] <gps> I just started that myself and it seems to be working
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# [18:30] * @bz has to clobber anyway
# [18:30] <@ehsan> jesup|laptop: do you know what times ekr hangs on irc?
# [18:30] <@bz> like every time
# [18:30] <cdiehl> ehsan: I think he is currently in Taipei, you might need to mail him
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# [18:31] <@ehsan> shoot
# [18:31] <@ehsan> ok :(
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# [18:32] <@bz> if: Expression Syntax.
# [18:32] <@bz> then: Command not found.
# [18:32] <@bz> else: endif not found.
# [18:32] <@bz> fi: Command not found.
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# [18:32] <@bz> /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/debug/mozilla/client.mk:172:0: command '/usr/bin/python /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/debug/mozilla/build/pymake/pymake/../make.py -f /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/debug/mozilla/client.mk realbuild' failed, return code 2
# [18:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6066b9d92032 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 861322 - Make Metro read Desktop app.update.mode setting. r=jimm
# [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00b264c7cced - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge inbound to m-c.
# [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1b755912e76 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 794937 - Make updates work from the Metro front end, add handling for 1 instance handling updates. r=rstrong
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# [18:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d11b06384df6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
# [18:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18d884c5e7df - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 794937 - Updater callback should launch Metro Firefox when updating from Metro Firefox. r=rstrong
# [18:33] <@bz> gps: ^
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# [18:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7cad4e202e1 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 835151 - Add updates to the Metro flyout. r=rstrong
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# [18:33] <gps> bz: uhh. I'd look at your setup first
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# [18:34] <gps> my pymake build on os x is still humming along
# [18:34] <@bz> For real?
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# [18:34] <@bz> gps: well, so
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# [18:34] <@bz> gps: why the hell is this thing using $SHELL to run that stuff?
# [18:34] <@bz> gps: that doesn't happen normally, does it?
# [18:34] <gps> which stuff?
# [18:34] <@bz> gps: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/client.mk#178
# [18:34] <@bz> gps: that stuff
# [18:35] <@bz> gps: it seems like it's using $SHELL to run it
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# [18:35] <glandium> bz: that doesn't sound wrong
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# [18:35] <@bz> well, so
# [18:35] <@bz> normal make doesn't do that, does it?
# [18:35] <@bz> because it would fail the same way
# [18:35] <gps> bz: make recipes should be executed under /bin/sh
# [18:36] <gps> make ignores $SHELL
# [18:36] <@bz> well, they're not with pymake
# [18:36] <@bz> which is why it just broke
# [18:36] <@bz> because I don't use sh
# [18:36] <gps> and not bash, presumably
# [18:36] <@bz> indeed
# [18:36] <@bz> Yet Another Pymake Bug, eh?
# [18:36] * @bz sets SHELL
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# [18:37] <@bz> ok
# [18:37] <@bz> build is running
# [18:37] <@bz> we shall see
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# [18:37] <gps> bz: pymake uses $SHELL, which is a bug
# [18:37] <@bz> gps: should I file a bug on the shell thing?
# [18:37] <@bz> right
# [18:38] <gps> pymake/util.py:43
# [18:38] <glandium> gps: make *sets* SHELL
# [18:38] <gps> glandium: right, but it's not supposed to use SHELL
# [18:38] <gps> https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Choosing-the-Shell
# [18:38] <gps> I take that back - it's not supposed to set SHELL either
# [18:39] <@bz> anyway
# [18:39] <@bz> it's building now
# [18:39] <@bz> This is actually good
# [18:39] <@bz> because now I can try to reproduce the slowness vlad was complaining about
# [18:39] <gps> -> commute to SF office
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# [18:40] <bent> bz, was this the thing i was talking about last night?
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# [18:41] <@bz> bent: er, sorry yes
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# [18:41] <@bz> bent: I meant you and typed "vlad"
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# [18:41] <@bz> because 4-letter nicks are all the same or something.....
# [18:41] <bent> i'm flattered ;)
# [18:41] <@bz> bent: ;)
# [18:41] <bent> excellent
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# [18:41] <RyanVM> ehsan: fyi, slaves auto-clobber after canceled jobs now
# [18:41] <@bz> bent: anyway, first I get to sort out Ehsan's issue
# [18:41] <RyanVM> so it's OK to cancel now
# [18:41] <@ehsan> RyanVM: really?! cool!
# [18:41] <@bz> bent: then see if I can reproduce yours
# [18:41] <RyanVM> yeah, catlee fixed that a couple weeks ago
# [18:41] <bent> cool
# [18:41] <bent> bz, thanks!
# [18:41] <@ehsan> bent: get in the line :P
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# [18:42] <@ehsan> RyanVM: super!
# [18:42] <bent> bz-queue
# [18:42] <RyanVM> indeed!
# [18:42] <@bz> building is more important than building fast
# [18:42] <@bz> or something
# [18:42] <RyanVM> so we do cancel more liberally now :)
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# [18:42] <@ehsan> gerv: so, I stand corrected, you _could_ cancel builds if you forgot DONTBUILD
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# [18:43] <RyanVM> gerv: I wouldn't worry about it at this point, though
# [18:43] <@bz> So if I want to do a try push that will build Telephony.cpp
# [18:43] <gerv> OK.
# [18:43] <@bz> which platform can I get that on?
# [18:43] <glandium> ehsan: cancelling is a bad bad idea
# [18:43] <Ms2ger> glandium, apparently not
# [18:44] <glandium> unless buildbots now clobber
# [18:44] <Ms2ger> <RyanVM> ehsan: fyi, slaves auto-clobber after canceled jobs now
# [18:44] <glandium> in such case
# [18:44] <@ehsan> glandium: RyanVM says they do
# [18:44] <philor> you could cancel builds if you forgot DONTBUILD except that by the time you would be cancelling, they might have coalesced the build jobs for a push below you, and you would be cancelling the build for a push that should build
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# [18:44] <glandium> i don't remember having seen that bug closed
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# [18:44] <@ehsan> philor: oh, hehe, I _knew_ there's something wrong with canceling builds :)
# [18:45] <glandium> philor: we're still coalescing builds? i thought we only did tests
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# [18:46] <RyanVM> nope
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# [18:47] <nemo> Gijs: that was an inappropriate use of [regression] ?
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# [18:47] <nemo> Gijs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874870 that is
# [18:47] <Gijs> nemo: I just think we use the keyword rather than noting it in the bug summary. :s
# [18:48] <nemo> ah
# [18:48] <nemo> never clear on that
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# [18:48] <jesup|laptop> ehsan: normally pacific hours (though starting on the early side), but he's in Taiwan this week
# [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e968ebc8bbb1 - Raymond Lee - Bug 836439 - Handle downloads started in private browsing mode. r=paolo
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# [18:49] <@ehsan> jesup|laptop: thanks
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# [18:50] <ialagenchev> s it possible to pass -tui to gdb when starting mochitest with mach, or even better to pass cgdb instead of gdb? I tried —debugger=cgdb, that didn't work :-(
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# [18:50] <Ms2ger> Patch welcome :)
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# [18:51] <sfink> ialagenchev: what did --debugger=cgdb do? I would've expected that to work
# [18:51] <ialagenchev> it works. I want tui though :-)
# [18:51] <ialagenchev> or cgdb, much more user friendly
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# [18:52] <ialagenchev> is there a way to pass arguments to gdb, so I can do gdb -tui?
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# [18:53] <sfink> ialagenchev: I thought there was a key sequence that would turn on tui mode in gdb when you're not in it
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# [18:53] <sfink> ialagenchev: what was the error when you did —debugger=cgdb?
# [18:53] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [18:54] <ialagenchev> sfink: no error, just went to command line
# [18:54] <Ms2ger> Up down up down left right left right b a
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> And then start
# [18:54] <ialagenchev> sfink: command line as in no gdb prompt
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> s/up down up down/up up down down/
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# [18:55] <sfink> ialagenchev: for just tui, can you run with --debugger=gdb and do Ctrl-x Ctrl-a?
# [18:55] <ialagenchev> sfink: i tried that it doesn't seem to do anything
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# [18:56] <sfink> Ms2ger: I never had that console, or game, or whatever it was, and yet I still know what you're talking about
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# [18:56] <Ms2ger> sfink, me neither
# [18:56] <froydnj> ialagenchev: you can pass --debugger-args='-tui --args' (the --args is necessary because of how the debugger is invoked)
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# [18:56] <Ms2ger> Way too young for that
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# [18:57] <ialagenchev> froydnj: awesomeness. thanks a ton for the help. I think that will work :-)
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# [18:57] <sfink> ialagenchev: I don't actually use either gdb -tui or cgdb. I use http://people.mozilla.org/~sfink/data/debug with --debugger=debug, which will bring up emacs with gdb running in gud-mode.
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# [18:58] <ialagenchev> sfink: thanks, but sorry emacs == fail for me :-)
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# [18:59] <ialagenchev> sfink: cgdb is essentially the same thing but for vim
# [18:59] <sfink> ah, ok
# [19:01] <glandium> ialagenchev: it's standalone, though ; it only shares ux with vi
# [19:01] <ialagenchev> glandium: yes. I was just being simplistic in my eplanation
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# [19:03] <froydnj> sfink: hum, I can't get to people, this is what's in ~/bin/egdb for me: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2431806
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# [19:03] <decoder> ehsan: __asan_report_error is the right function to break on
# [19:03] <decoder> sorry for the delay, I was out
# [19:03] <rail> sfink: hey, do you mind if I shut down the VM loaned to you in bug 818198? It can be started anytime by buildduty
# [19:03] <@ehsan> decoder: except that it's not :)
# [19:04] <sfink> rail: yes, go ahead. I'm not going to get back to it for a little while.
# [19:04] <sfink> rail: sorry about that
# [19:04] <rail> nw
# [19:04] <decoder> ehsan: why not? what's happening?
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# [19:04] <@ehsan> well, that breakpoint is never triggered
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# [19:05] <decoder> and still you get the asan error output?
# [19:05] <sfink> froydnj: that's what mine boils down to, but mine is way longer for only a marginal gain
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# [19:06] <@ehsan> decoder: yes
# [19:06] <froydnj> sfink: had a bothersome time getting the quoting right :(
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# [19:07] <sfink> froydnj: I thought I managed to prove that it was impossible in the general case, due to the way emacs does things. I'd have to go back and look, though.
# [19:07] <bbondy> anyone know if there's a bug being fixed for dxr links not working? Example: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/browser/modules/WindowsJumpLists.jsm#l487 -> "The requested URL /mozilla-central/browser/modules/WindowsJumpLists.jsm was not found on this server."
# [19:07] <decoder> ehsan: is that breakpoint valid for all threads? maybe the breakpoint isnt active in the thread where it's happening
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# [19:07] <@ehsan> hmm
# [19:08] <@ehsan> decoder: I think breakpoints are not per thread
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# [19:08] <@ehsan> they're set on code locations, right?
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# [19:08] <decoder> right, I was confused, some other stuff in gdb is per thread
# [19:09] <decoder> but break is not
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# [19:09] <decoder> ehsan: what version of clang? (revision)
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# [19:09] <@bz> well
# [19:09] <@ehsan> decoder: clang version 3.3 (git@github.com:ehsan/clang.git http://llvm.org/git/clang.git dbef71ebc66fe5553db01eb8e95b696c3223e737) (git@github.com:ehsan/llvm.git http://llvm.org/git/llvm.git c208c43a8ac5bfd3ee09b048cbc3f760691cefad)
# [19:09] * @bz has a pymake gecko build
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# [19:10] * @bz applies ehsan's patch, starts build again
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# [19:11] <decoder> ahal: but the __asan_report_error function is still in your build?
# [19:11] <@bz> " In our meeting 2 weeks ago, Arvind had proposed that we might use the POSIX error codes as a canonical list of network-related errors in our specs, as a means of avoiding creating our own list of errors as I've proposed. (We're referencing the IANA list of HTTP codes.) Unfortunately, after doing some investigation, I don't think this approach will work. Here's why:"
# [19:11] * @bz is glad that happened before Alex Russel spotted the proposal
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# [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cc72d1576c40 - tbirdbld - Automated checkin: version bump for thunderbird 22.0b1 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
# [19:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/1d38b1a9c7a3 - tbirdbld - Added THUNDERBIRD_22_0b1_RELEASE THUNDERBIRD_22_0b1_BUILD2 tag(s) for changeset cc72d1576c40. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [19:12] <@bz> bent: so good news
# [19:12] <bent> :)
# [19:12] <@bz> bent: I totally see your perf problem
# [19:13] <bent> yay?
# [19:13] <@bz> bent: well, better than not seeing it. ;)
# [19:13] <bent> indeed
# [19:13] <bent> so it's not just me anyway
# [19:13] <ahal> decoder: think you meant to ping ehsan :)
# [19:14] <decoder> ahal: oh yea, sorry. ehsan^^
# [19:14] <@bz> ehsan: hm
# [19:14] <@bz> ehsan: so I can't reproduce so far. :(
# [19:14] <@ehsan> decoder: let's see if this makes the problem clearer: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2431848
# [19:14] <@ehsan> decoder: note: no bp hit
# [19:15] <@bz> ehsan: in the my build is past dom/bindings at this point
# [19:15] <@ehsan> decoder, bz: (need to go and get lunch, brb)
# [19:15] <@ehsan> bz: :(
# [19:15] <decoder> ehsan: okay, thats very strange :(
# [19:15] <decoder> it always worked well for me
# [19:15] <decoder> and thats what their manual says
# [19:15] <@bz> ehsan: and everything looks like it should
# [19:15] <@bz> at ~/mozilla/debug/obj-firefox/dom/bindings/.changed-dependency-list
# [19:15] <@bz> ParserResults.pkl AnalyserNodeBinding AudioBufferSourceNodeBinding AudioDestinationNodeBinding AudioNodeBinding BiquadFilterNodeBinding ChannelMergerNodeBinding ChannelSplitterNodeBinding DelayNodeBinding DynamicsCompressorNodeBinding GainNodeBinding PannerNodeBinding ScriptProcessorNodeBinding WaveShaperNodeBinding
# [19:15] <@bz> er, cat
# [19:16] <@bz> but you get the idea
# [19:16] <@bz> That's the right list for a change to dom/webidl/AudioNode.webidl
# [19:16] <@bz> So generally speaking $? works....
# [19:16] <cdiehl> ehsan: please don't post stacks of security bugs publicly..
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# [19:16] <@bz> gps: so how do I build in a single dir with pymake?
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# [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59c556346255 - Stephen Pohl - Bug 874486 - Add weakFrame.IsAlive checks to avoid crashing. r=roc
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# [19:18] <glandium> bz: like with make
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# [19:18] <glandium> CTP is broken on aurora
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# [19:20] <@bz> glandium: so just "build/pymake/make.py -C $objdir/dom/bindings" or so?
# [19:20] <glandium> bz: yeap
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# [19:21] <froydnj> aw, when did accesing Components.classes from a chrome scratchpad stop working?
# [19:21] <@bz> glandium: perfect, thanks
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# [19:21] <glandium> froydnj: aw
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# [19:23] <@bz> ehsan: build complete. :(
# [19:23] <dcamp> froydnj: it works for me (and wasn't removed on purpose, at least from the devtools side)
# [19:23] <froydnj> unless the scratchpad opened from about:config is no longer chrome
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# [19:24] <froydnj> dcamp: just evaluating Components.classes or actually trying to access something in it?
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# [19:25] <@bz> froydnj: the scratchpad has a separate global, no?
# [19:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c32533bf03f3 - Richard Newman - Bug 858742, Bug 868449 - Fennec integration for Firefox Health Report on Android. r=mfinkle, nalexander
# [19:25] <@bz> froydnj: if you want chrome, use a browser scratchpad?
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb43acde496e - Richard Newman - Bug 858742 - Part 2: manifest change for Firefox Health Report content provider. r=trivial
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efe8602a121a - Richard Newman - Bug 868274 - Part 1: extend generateDocument to extract data from profile. r=nalexander
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/374417ab7178 - Richard Newman - Bug 858742 - Part 1: Firefox Health Report storage for Android. r=nalexander
# [19:25] <froydnj> bz: what is the incantation for that, then?
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eacb047aa7f7 - Richard Newman - Bug 873360 - Profile information storage. r=nalexander
# [19:25] <@bz> froydnj: set devtools.chrome.enabled in about:config
# [19:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64cbce6df9fb - Richard Newman - Bug 868449 - Part 1: provide an EnvironmentBuilder to generate environments for FHR. r=nalexander
# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7803bb333eee - Richard Newman - Bug 873338 - JavaDoc and checkstyle warnings. r=trivial
# [19:26] <@bz> froydnj: and then the scratchpad has an "Environment" menu where you can select "Browser"
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# [19:26] <@bz> bent: this is totally ridiculous
# [19:26] <Ms2ger> Welcome to Mozilla, sir
# [19:26] <@bz> mmm
# [19:26] <@bz> It worries me a lot more that I can't reproduce ehsan's issue
# [19:27] <@bz> mozilla% time env SHELL=/bin/bash python -m cProfile -o /tmp/test.prof build/pymake/make.py -C ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/
# [19:27] <@bz> 154.933u 2.855s 2:36.32 100.9% 0+0k 11+19io 2pf+0w
# [19:27] <@bz> That's insane
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# [19:27] <bent> bz, yep :)
# [19:27] <@bz> Just for comparison
# [19:27] <@bz> (this was a no-op build)
# [19:27] <@bz> mozilla% time make -C ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/
# [19:27] <froydnj> still getting exceptions :(
# [19:27] <@bz> 2.467u 0.119s 0:02.57 100.0% 0+0k 0+6io 0pf+0w
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# [19:29] <@bz> 55095868 function calls (54954778 primitive calls) in 156.161 seconds
# [19:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0aa7d9923399 - Bobby Holley - Bug 871887 - Fix marquee _setEventListener. r=bz, a=akeybl
# [19:29] <@bz> ncalls tottime percall cumtime percall filename:lineno(function)
# [19:29] <@bz> 1184974 118.468 0.000 118.468 0.000 {method 'pop' of 'list' objects}
# [19:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6c0015af8603 - Olli Pettay - Bug 848535 - Simplify js object holding in XHR and FileReader. r=mccr8, a=lsblakk
# [19:29] <@bz> There's the first culprit
# [19:29] <bholley> RyanVM++
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# [19:29] <glandium> bsmedberg: that's kind of an awful upgrade path (wrt ctp)
# [19:29] <bholley> firebot: karma RyanVM
# [19:29] <firebot> RyanVM has 43 points of karma (rank 48).
# [19:30] <RyanVM> woowoo :P
# [19:30] <@bz> 453 def run(self):
# [19:30] <@bz> 454 while len(self.pending) and len(self.running) < self.jcount:
# [19:30] <@bz> 455 cb, args, kwargs = self.pending.pop(0)
# [19:30] <@bz> 456 cb(*args, **kwargs)
# [19:30] <@bz> That pop() right there
# [19:30] <@bz> on 455
# [19:30] <@bsmedberg> glandium: CtP is changing a lot, so I'm not particularly worried about it
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# [19:30] <@bsmedberg> you set hidden prefs, you get weird behavior on upgrade
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# [19:31] <glandium> bsmedberg: well, a lot of people have been using that pref as a replacement for flashblock and similar addons
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# [19:31] <@bsmedberg> that is definitely not going to work soon
# [19:31] <@bz> Having 1.2e6 calls is probably not helping
# [19:32] <glandium> bsmedberg: btw, i don't understand the point of having that pref turn on/off that option in about:addons. Why not have it there always?
# [19:32] <@bsmedberg> because the UI is changing in 24 and we didn't want to expose it yet
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# [19:35] <glandium> bsmedberg: we should make things clear, then, because more than random people using it, there are random sites advertizing it http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57475223-285/how-to-configure-firefox-plug-ins-to-load-only-when-clicked/
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# [19:35] <@bsmedberg> How do you "make things clear" when all you've got is hidden pref UI?
# [19:37] <glandium> bsmedberg: blog, whatever? although i don't see why we just don't make that pref do what it was doing before, and use another one as a toggle for about:addons
# [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63b006573c65 - Brian Hackett - Bug 870052 - Various tweaks to reduce recompilation on asm.js style apps, r=jandem.
# [19:38] <@bz> bent: time env SHELL=/bin/bash python -m cProfile -o /tmp/test2.prof build/pymake/make.py -C ../obj-firefox/dom/bindings/
# [19:38] <@bz> 33.693u 1.744s 0:34.80 101.8% 0+0k 2+96io 0pf+0w
# [19:38] <@bz> bent: not great, but better...
# [19:38] <bent> weird
# [19:38] <@bsmedberg> glandium: I don't think we should try to engineer our way out of this. See bug 866390. Our intention is to change the default to CtP anyway, soon enough.
# [19:38] <@bz> bent: well, that's with a change to pymake
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# [19:38] <bent> oh ok
# [19:39] <froydnj> bz: is that a no-op make?
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# [19:39] <@bz> froydnj: yes
# [19:39] <froydnj> bz: :((
# [19:39] <@bz> froydnj: that's just the pymake overhead of processing the makefile
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# [19:39] <@bz> bent: turns out, using a deque instead of a a list if we're going to have 1e6 items in it is a win
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# [19:40] <Ms2ger> bz, really? :)
# [19:40] <@bz> Sadly, the remainder is not as hotspotty
# [19:40] * @bz will grab lunch, then poke at it more
# [19:40] <gps> bz: build/pymake/make.py -C path/to/dir
# [19:40] <glandium> bz: 1e6 items? O_o
# [19:40] <gps> you probably want to create a shell alias or variable for $PYMAKE
# [19:41] <@bz> glandium: well
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# [19:41] <@bz> ncalls tottime percall cumtime percall filename:lineno(function)
# [19:41] <@bz> 1184974 118.468 0.000 118.468 0.000 {method 'pop' of 'list' objects}
# [19:41] <@bz> and of those...
# [19:41] <@bz> ncalls tottime cumtime
# [19:41] <@bz> 1173873 118.464 118.464 process.py:453(run)
# [19:42] <@bz> So we managed to pop() 1.17e6 times
# [19:42] <@bz> which strongly suggests that the list had about that many items at the start
# [19:42] <@bz> general order of magnitude
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# [19:42] * @bz can try to verify what the longest it got was if people care....
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# [19:42] <glandium> O_O
# [19:43] <@bz> Now _why_ that happened
# [19:43] <@bz> that is an interesting question
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# [19:43] <@bz> I assume that's moderately unexpected?
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# [19:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/361fef4fb47a - Terrence Cole - Bug 851057 - Implement generational GC support in IonMonkey; r=dvander
# [19:43] <froydnj> certainly seems unexpected
# [19:44] <@bz> mmm
# [19:44] <@bz> maybe I should look into what all these items are
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# [19:44] <@bz> before profiling more
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# [19:45] <@bz> o
# [19:45] <@bz> er, ok
# [19:45] <@bz> so if I print the max length the pending queue reaches in run()
# [19:45] <@bz> I get:
# [19:45] * @bz waits
# [19:46] <@bz> (we invoke run() multiple times here, apparently)
# [19:46] <@bz> 2013
# [19:46] <@bz> wtf?
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# [19:47] * @bz is now trying to reconcile his profiler and his prints. ;)
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# [19:48] <glandium> bz: once for each target?
# [19:48] <@ehsan> bz: sadface :(
# [19:49] <@ehsan> cdiehl: that stack is useless unless somebody can steal my local build :)
# [19:49] <@bz> well
# [19:49] <@bz> 2013 is not unreasonable
# [19:49] <@bz> But what confuses me is...
# [19:49] <@bz> whether I use a list or a dequeu
# [19:49] <@bz> er, deque
# [19:49] <@bz> I see a max count of 2013
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# [19:50] <@bz> and a total number of pops of 15230
# [19:50] <@bz> but in both cases the prints happen way before most of the time is spent
# [19:50] <@bz> And the profiler claims the time is spent here, with way more than 15230 pop calls
# [19:51] <glandium> bz: fwiw, i see only 2 calls to run, for a noop in dom/bindings here
# [19:51] <@bz> and the change in time from using a deque suggests the profiler is right
# [19:51] <@bz> 2 calls would make sense
# [19:51] <glandium> but 700k to defer
# [19:51] <@bz> but why am I only getting a print from the first call?
# [19:51] <glandium> and 1.4M for pop
# [19:51] <@bz> That's wha the wtf is about
# [19:51] <@bz> ok
# [19:51] <@bz> so your numbers match my numbers from the profiler
# [19:52] <@bz> but why am I not seeing the prints from the second call to run?
# [19:52] <glandium> 826049/770919 1.049 0.000 2.664 0.000 data.py:453(get)
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# [19:52] <@bz> oh, huh
# [19:52] <@bz> is one of the cbs calling exit or something?
# [19:52] <@bz> I see two prints on _entry_ to run
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# [19:53] <@bz> but only one from after the while loop!
# [19:53] <glandium> 2240911 2.495 0.000 4.581 0.000 data.py:1699(gettarget)
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# [19:54] <@bz> 575890
# [19:54] <@bz> is the biggest it gets to
# [19:54] <@bz> alright
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# [19:55] <@bsmedberg> hrm, `mach clobberz` is taking way longer than I'd expect on Linux
# [19:55] * @bsmedberg wonders what it's doing
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# [19:55] <@bz> so ok, almost 2 million calls to gettarget
# [19:55] <@bz> why?
# [19:55] <glandium> bz: because of all the dependencies?
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# [19:56] <@bz> well, but
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# [19:56] <@bz> maybe I'm just confused about how dependencies work
# [19:56] <@bz> There should be a bunch of deps from all the .h and .cpp on one single file
# [19:56] <@bz> and a bunch of deps from that one file on some other files
# [19:57] <@bz> where by "bunch" I mean "order of several hundred"
# [19:57] <Ms2ger> Hrm
# [19:57] <@bz> where are numbers in the millions coming from?
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# [19:57] <Ms2ger> How do you push something in git?
# [19:57] <@bz> What are we multiplying by what and why?
# [19:57] * Ms2ger could do that at some point
# [19:57] <@bz> MS2ger: git push?
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# [19:57] <Ms2ger> Oh, looks like I juggled the arguments correctly now
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# [19:58] <@bz> ryanvm: ping
# [19:58] <@bz> bent: you want to try to deque patch to see if that at least speeds things up a bit for you?
# [19:58] <@bz> bent: on Windows?
# [19:59] <bent> bz, i'll try anything ;)
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# [19:59] <RyanVM> bz: pong
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# [20:00] <@bz> bent: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2432082
# [20:00] <@bz> RyanVM: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52500#c176
# [20:00] <@bz> RyanVM: should 23 be marked fixed?
# [20:01] <RyanVM> bz: well, I *did* push to aurora
# [20:01] <glandium> bz: last few gettarget() calls: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2432083 (with how many times for each)
# [20:01] <glandium> best is .PHONY
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# [20:01] <RyanVM> bz: 22 should have been affected, though
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# [20:01] <glandium> why are we doing gettarget(.PHONY) is beyond me
# [20:01] <RyanVM> stupid dropdowns
# [20:01] <froydnj> glandium: maybe to see if we actually have to rebuild a target?
# [20:02] <@bz> RyanVM: oh, right, aurora is 23
# [20:02] <@bz> RyanVM: ok, makes sense
# [20:02] <@bz> glandium: hrm
# [20:02] <@bz> glandium: we gettarget all the stuff coming from .deps?
# [20:02] <bent> bz, definitely better
# [20:03] <@bz> glandium: in that case, no wonder we're hitting millions of things....
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# [20:03] <@bz> glandium: hrm
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# [20:03] <@bz> glandium: that sucks
# [20:03] <@bz> bent: ok
# [20:03] <@bz> bent: I will poke at this a bit more
# [20:03] <glandium> bz: pymake is not very smart
# [20:03] <@bz> glandium: sure
# [20:03] <@bz> glandium: trying to figure out how we can do better
# [20:04] <@bz> I mean, it's not like gettarget is super-slow
# [20:04] <@bz> it's just 2 million calls to it!
# [20:04] <glandium> bz: actually... a third of the time spent on it is from a regexp in an assert
# [20:04] <@bz> which all together take several seconds
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# [20:05] <@bz> sure
# [20:05] <@bz> so we can save 1-2s there
# [20:05] <@bz> we want to cut off 28s
# [20:05] <@bz> or so
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# [20:08] <glandium> bz: i'm cutting 6s by removing all the asserts
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# [20:11] <glandium> bz: so here's something interesting: for each occurrence of a file in .deps files, we actually do gettarget() 3 times
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# [20:12] <@bz> glandium: mmm
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# [20:14] <@bz> ok
# [20:14] <@bz> I really need lunch
# [20:14] <@bz> back in a bit
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# [20:15] <Mook_as> glandium: so, python -OO build/pymake/make.py ?
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# [20:15] <gps> Mook_as: never use python -OO for mozilla python
# [20:16] <JosiahOne> You can I flag for review for changes to browser.xul and utilityOverlay.js?
# [20:16] <gps> -OO disables assertion checking and lots of our python uses assertions
# [20:16] <JosiahOne> s/You/Who
# [20:16] <gps> -OO doesn't actually make python faster
# [20:16] <Mook_as> yes, hence in response to your removing all the asserts ;)
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# [20:16] <glandium> gps: removing asserts from pymake makes it 20% faster on dom/bindings
# [20:17] <Mook_as> oh, not you, the other g-person :p
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# [20:17] <gps> wat
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# [20:19] <rnewman> wat? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=c32533bf03f3
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# [20:19] <rnewman> ah, shit, added in API 9
# [20:21] <rnewman> fixing: bug 875000
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# [20:27] <glandium> bz: if i remove all the empty targets in the .pp files (sed -i /:$/d *.pp), i'm down to 11s
# [20:27] <glandium> so there is something seriously wrong in pymake with these empty targets
# [20:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2610c01d749f - Richard Newman - Bug 875000 - Only attempt to tweak StrictMode on API 9+. r=trivial (bustage)
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# [20:28] <glandium> (and that only gets gettarget down to 1.5M calls)
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# [20:34] <glandium> bz: _executeweak is called for each and every occurrence of empty targets, even for the same target
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# [20:35] <glandium> like, if you have 2 occurences of an empty "foo:", it does _executeweak twice
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# [20:38] <glandium> i think we won't get anywhere without changing pymake's data model
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# [20:41] <@bz> glandium: hmm
# [20:41] <@bz> glandium: these are the compiler-generated .pp files, right?
# [20:41] <@bz> glandium: so we can't drop the empty targets from them easily?
# [20:41] <glandium> bz: we can, but we can't
# [20:42] <nemo> 14:20 < IcarusX> even tabcandy renders a stack of tabs after a while. :P
# [20:42] <glandium> bz: there's an option to have the compiler not generate them, but they actually are necessary
# [20:42] <nemo> 14:33 <@nemo> IcarusX: small monitor? :)
# [20:42] <nemo> 14:33 <@nemo> I have ~150 tabs
# [20:42] <glandium> bz: for when files are removed
# [20:42] <nemo> 14:36 < IcarusX> I have 696 open.
# [20:42] <nemo> 14:36 < IcarusX> er, total.
# [20:42] <nemo> 14:37 < IcarusX> as per the tab counter extension.
# [20:42] <nemo> sooo. I guess he's one of the edge cases on that tab usage graph I saw on PMO
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# [20:43] <glandium> bz: that is, without them, if you have foo.o: bar.h and bar.h is removed in the future, you get a build error because make doesn't know how to make bar.h
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# [20:48] <ttaubert> bz: ping
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# [20:52] <glandium> gps: with asserts like this, it's not a surprise that removing them makes pymake 20% faster https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/pymake/pymake/parserdata.py#170
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# [20:52] <glandium> gps: that particular assert takes the cumulative time used in that function down 10%
# [20:53] <gps> glandium: that is indeed a silly assert
# [20:54] <glandium> gps: apparently, there are plenty of those
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# [20:56] <jwalden> asserts aren't silly, Python's silly for not optimizing them out hard enough :-)
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# [20:56] <jwalden> or do Python asserts still evaluate the condition when asserts are turned off, or something?
# [20:57] <glandium> jwalden: they're on by default
# [20:57] <jwalden> glandium: hmm, and we haven't turned them off except in some sort of developer mode?
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# [20:57] * jwalden thought the point of asserts was to catch bugs in development, but pay no cost in the field
# [20:59] <glandium> jwalden: you need to use python -O
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# [20:59] <@bz> ttaubert: ack
# [20:59] <glandium> bz: http://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/2432194 this strips run time by 10s here
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# [21:00] <glandium> not sure how safe that actually is
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# [21:00] <@bz> glandium: that's on top of my patch to use a deque?
# [21:00] <glandium> bz: no, just that
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# [21:00] <ttaubert> bz: hey, are you the right person to ask about docShell swapping?
# [21:00] <glandium> bz: where is your deque patch?
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# [21:00] <@bz> ttaubert: sadly
# [21:00] <gps> glandium: executeweak() makes a lot of assumptions already in the name of speed. so if you want to add more, I say game on!
# [21:01] <gps> just please document them
# [21:01] <@bz> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2432082
# [21:01] <@bz> ttaubert: I have about 15 mins
# [21:01] <@bz> ttaubert: What's up?
# [21:02] <glandium> bz: hardly makes a difference
# [21:02] <ttaubert> bz: heh, ok. so I do have a browser in the background that preloads a page. I later want to swap this docShell with one from a tab so that the page appears to have loaded instantly. now we realized that there is reflow after swapping which makes this quite slow on slow machines. is there a reason for this reflow to be happening? even if those browsers have
# [21:02] <ttaubert> exactly the same size?
# [21:02] <@bz> glandium: huh
# [21:02] <glandium> bz: like, 300ms
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# [21:03] <@bz> glandium: for me, that deque thing takes the time from 2.5mins to 30s
# [21:03] <glandium> bz: well, it's 30s for me without deque, but i'm testing on linux
# [21:03] <@bz> glandium: I'm on Mac, fwiw
# [21:04] <@bz> glandium: bent said the deque also helped him on Windows
# [21:04] <@bz> glandium: We should get this various stuff landed and reprofile
# [21:04] <@bz> ttaubert: checking
# [21:04] <glandium> bz: do you have a bug #?
# [21:05] <@bz> glandium: no bug yet
# [21:05] <glandium> bz: 1466028 0.386 0.000 0.386 0.000 {method 'pop' of 'list' objects}
# [21:05] <@bz> glandium: can file onve I finish with ttaubert
# [21:05] <@bz> glandium: huh
# [21:05] <glandium> 0.4s for the 1.4M calls
# [21:05] <@bz> glandium: for me it was definitely way slower. Maybe a matter of python version?
# [21:05] * @bz has 2.7.2
# [21:05] <glandium> 2.7.3 here
# [21:05] <@bz> weird
# [21:06] <@bz> ttaubert: so...
# [21:06] <@bz> ttaubert: afaict we do not force a reflow
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# [21:07] <@bz> ttaubert: we reflow if there is one pending
# [21:07] <@bz> ttaubert: but the real question you're asking is why one is pending, right?
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# [21:08] <ttaubert> bz: probably :) all I want to do is pre-render a page in the background and just swap it in so that there's nothing to do then
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# [21:08] <@bz> ttaubert: is one of the browsers display:none by any chance?
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# [21:08] <ttaubert> bz: one of them is in the hiddenWindow
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# [21:09] <@bz> mmm
# [21:09] <@bz> Did it ever get laid out?
# [21:09] <ttaubert> bz: good question. how can I check that?
# [21:09] <@bz> Did it have the right size?
# [21:10] <@bz> well
# [21:10] <@bz> So at the point when you swap
# [21:10] <ttaubert> *should* have the right size
# [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e00fac588dc - Joey Armstrong - bug 869135: move ASFILES to moz.build (config - set #1)
# [21:10] <@bz> if you set breakpoints in nsFrameLoader::SwapWithOtherLoader
# [21:11] <@bz> What are the lengths of mDirtyRoots in the relevant presshells?
# [21:11] <@bz> Let's start there
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# [21:11] <@bz> if they're empty, then see where stuff gets added to them..
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# [21:11] <glandium> bz: filed 875023 for mine
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# [21:11] <@bz> glandium: sounds good
# [21:11] * @bz will file a separate bug for the deque
# [21:12] <glandium> bent: can you try that ^ ?
# [21:12] <bent> glandium, which?
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# [21:12] <glandium> bent: 875023
# [21:12] <ttaubert> bz: ok, will need to investigate. all I can tell is that after commenting out the layout flushes at the end of SwapWithOtherLoader it still causes a reflow here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp#1878
# [21:12] <ttaubert> does that somehow help?
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# [21:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5303482b695 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 872839 - Part 1: Put new PeerConnections on global list earlier, ensuring close is called should PC.initialize fail. r=jesup
# [21:13] <@bz> ttaubert: no
# [21:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec2e0fb43322 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 872839 - Part 2: Untangle iceServer parsing from PeerConnectionMedia initialization for cleaner failure path. r=jesup
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# [21:13] <@bz> ttaubert: ah, somehat
# [21:13] <@bz> ttaubert: That's a resize reflow
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# [21:14] <@bz> ttaubert: So sizes are at least a likely problem
# [21:14] <ttaubert> bz: ok I'll check that the sizes are the same if that might be a cause
# [21:14] <@bz> ttaubert: good luck!
# [21:14] <ttaubert> bz: sounds like some good pointers, thanks for helping!
# [21:15] <@bz> ttaubert: no problem
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# [21:15] <sachin_h> mak: ping
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# [21:15] <RyanVM> ehsan: why am I somehow thinking this is yours? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23274877&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [21:16] <@ehsan> RyanVM: oh crap
# [21:16] <@ehsan> RyanVM: intermittent or perma?
# [21:16] <RyanVM> intermittent
# [21:16] <@ehsan> huh
# [21:16] <@ehsan> RyanVM: can you file a bug please?
# [21:16] <@ehsan> I'll take a look
# [21:16] <RyanVM> i'd prefer to backout
# [21:16] <@ehsan> once I fix these security bugs :(
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# [21:17] <@ehsan> does it happen very often?
# [21:17] <RyanVM> hard to say, windows doesn't exactly have a fast turnaround time
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# [21:17] <RyanVM> this is the first instance so far
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# [21:18] <@ehsan> RyanVM: so, backout on one leak?!
# [21:18] <@ehsan> what's one leak between friends?
# [21:18] <@bz> ehsan: So after all that, I still can't reproduce that bustage. :(
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# [21:18] <mak> sachin_h: pong
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# [21:19] <RyanVM> ehsan: typical policy is to backout on any new orange when the cause is immediately apparent
# [21:19] <simukis_> A question regarding experimental CSS features. First of all an example: http://codepen.io/seraphzz/pen/gFflr. I wonder – shouldn't `width: max-content` account for vertical scroll bar appearing so horizontal one wouldn't appear? If behaviour is expected, how could one make it account for that vertical scrollbar without using magic padding values and making sure that in case there's a line that doesn't fit into the parent horizontal scr
# [21:19] <@ehsan> RyanVM: ok, fine :(
# [21:19] <@ehsan> bz: :(
# [21:19] <nemo> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5751076 huh. "x-webkit-speech" - that *is* neat
# [21:19] <@ehsan> today is just not my day
# [21:19] <nemo> I'm gonna have to add that to our sites
# [21:19] <sachin_h> mak: Hey. Some tests failed here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=a333ad627dd3.
# [21:20] <mak> sachin_h: it's ok, those are random failures, unrelated to your change
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# [21:20] <glosoli> nemo: hmm cool
# [21:20] <mak> sachin_h: I will comment in the bug
# [21:21] <sachin_h> mak: ah, okay.
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# [21:21] <@bz> ehsan: I'll poke at it some more....
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# [21:22] <@bz> simukis_: max-content can't depend on content height
# [21:22] <armenzg_brb> mbrubeck: thanks; I will look into it
# [21:22] <@bz> simukis_: so can't depend on whether there is a vertical scrollbar
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# [21:22] <@bz> simukis_: there is no way to win there: either you get a gap or a horizontal scrollbar. :(
# [21:23] <rnewman> sorry for the orange blaaaahhhhhh, RyanVM and philor
# [21:23] <rnewman> Android versions :/
# [21:23] <@bz> simukis_: I _think_ for overflow-y:scroll we include the vertical scrollbar width and for overflow-y:auto we do not or something like that
# [21:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b8402ad9f66 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets e52c6f7200b3 and 2718954757e1 (bug 874869) for intermittent Windows leaks.
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# [21:24] <simukis_> bz: but then scrollbar would be visible on short content as well which is undesirable in many cases.
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# [21:24] <simukis_> I suspect a lot of people will complain about that in the future.
# [21:25] <sachin_h> mak: I'm new to the try server. Did it run tests only relevant to the patch I submitted or did it run every test in the repo?
# [21:25] <@bz> simukis_: there's just no sane way to make this work
# [21:25] <mak> sachin_h: I selected only relevant tests harnesses using the trychooser extension for mercurial
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# [21:26] <mak> sachin_h: the extension builds a special try: message telling it what to run
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# [21:26] <spock> newbie question here. Do any developers here use Linux Mint?
# [21:26] <@bz> simukis_: "people" have contradictory requirements
# [21:26] <@bz> simukis_: So life is bad for someone sometime.
# [21:26] <spock> I've been distro hopping and somehow Mint is giving me trouble in building FF from source
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# [21:27] <simukis_> ok tnaks.
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# [21:27] <simukis_> s/tnaks/thanks/
# [21:27] <sachin_h> mak: okay. So, the purpose of doing this was to simply check if the test-case I added passed? Only if that had failed would you have reconsidered the patch?
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# [21:28] <mak> sachin_h: partly to verify your test case, but also cause your change may have broken other existing tests, or other platforms that you didn't test. This to avoid breaking the trunk tree when landing your patch, since that would block everyone until the failure is resolved (usually by removing the patch from the tree)
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# [21:31] <sachin_h> mak: Do reviewers have to apply patches on their personal computers and test manually also ? Did you have to do that?
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# [21:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e2ba4127cb48 - Chris Peterson - Bug 776223 - Don't paste null text to Android's clipboard. r=blassey a=akeybl
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# [21:33] <mak> sachin_h: depends on the patch and on the confidence you have on a certain code part
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# [21:38] <sachin_h> mak: okay. Thanks!
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# [21:51] <bent> glandium, didn't seem to make much difference
# [21:51] <glandium> bz, gps: parsedepfile is called twice for each file in dom/bindings/.deps
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# [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d12016f7261 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 868212 - Silence JS warning about undefined property. r=cpeterson
# [21:51] <glandium> bent: strips 10s for dom/bindings here
# [21:52] <bent> glandium, with changes or on a no-change build?
# [21:52] <glandium> bent: no-change
# [21:52] <bent> hm
# [21:53] <@gavin> ehsan: what is the term for persian written in latin script?
# [21:53] <@ehsan> gavin: فارسی
# [21:53] <@gavin> ehsan: hmm, I just found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Persian
# [21:53] <glandium> bent: can you pastebin the output of python -m cProfile build/pymake/make.py -C objdir/dom/bindings ?
# [21:53] <@ehsan> gavin: yeah
# [21:54] <@ehsan> gavin: I've used something like that in a search engine that I wrote in a previous life :)
# [21:54] <@gavin> ehsan: can you translate "fekr konam bayad berim freenode ya dalnet"?
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# [21:54] <@ehsan> gavin: I think we need to go to either freenode or dalnet
# [21:54] <bent> glandium, http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2432348
# [21:55] <@ehsan> gavin: fwiw this is *very* common in text messages, chats, emails etc
# [21:55] <@gavin> yeah
# [21:55] <mconnor> ehsan: we need to update browse by name for Fx23, probably a little more complicated
# [21:55] <@gavin> or IRC channels :)
# [21:55] <@ehsan> gavin: it almost feels like a third language to me :)
# [21:55] <bent> glandium, oh, ignore that
# [21:55] <@ehsan> mconnor: ouch
# [21:55] <@ehsan> mconnor: why?
# [21:55] <@gavin> "update browse by name"?
# [21:55] <@ehsan> gavin: exactly
# [21:55] <@gavin> what does that mean
# [21:55] <mconnor> gavin: it's an addon
# [21:56] <mconnor> that reverts keyword.URL to the BBN version
# [21:56] <@ehsan> I knew writing that was a mistake :)
# [21:56] <@gavin> oh
# [21:56] <@gavin> yeah that's kinda gonna suck a bit
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# [21:56] <mconnor> ehsan: because keyword.URL is going away
# [21:56] <@ehsan> gavin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/browse-by-name/
# [21:56] <@ehsan> mconnor: :(
# [21:56] <jwalden> ehsan feels Persian is like a third language to him? that seems a bit iranic :-)
# [21:56] <@gavin> not that bad, but it's more complicated now
# [21:56] <@ehsan> jwalden: romanized persian
# [21:56] <@dolske> ehsan: pun
# [21:56] <bent> glandium, http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2432349
# [21:56] <@ehsan> gavin: mconnor: patches accepted, I guess :/
# [21:57] <@gavin> ehsan: do you know which of the variants listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Persian the one I quoted is?
# [21:57] <@ehsan> it's amazing how I've regretted every one of the add-ons I've ever written in one way or another!
# [21:57] <@dolske> "This add-on re-enables the "Browse By Name" feature which was disabled in Firefox 4." -- 2,156 users
# [21:58] <@gavin> ehsan: oh, nm, I just found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingilish :)
# [21:58] <@dolske> "need to update" might be a stretch. :)
# [21:58] <timeless> ?
# [21:58] <mconnor> dolske: BBN is a part of my workflow
# [21:58] <@ehsan> gavin: it doesn't matter, since nobody knows that there is this thing that is called romanization!
# [21:58] <glandium> bent: and without the patch?
# [21:58] <@gavin> mconnor: if you just need to fix it yourself manually, that's easier than updating bbn
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# [21:58] <@ehsan> gavin: this was sort of born naturally out of not being able to type in persian on old keyboards
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# [21:59] <@ehsan> gavin: and different people have different "dialects"!
# [21:59] <@dolske> mconnor: suggest you switch to opera
# [21:59] <jwalden> apropos of nothing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret_legging
# [21:59] <@ehsan> gavin: in fact I can sometimes tell which one of my friends wrote a phrase by just looking at the "dialect" they're using!
# [21:59] <mconnor> dolske: boo
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# [22:00] <@ehsan> gavin: this is all called Fingilish, but there's no one Fingilish that everybody adheres too
# [22:00] <@ehsan> *to
# [22:00] <@gavin> ehsan: interesting :)
# [22:00] <bent> glandium, http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2432353
# [22:01] <@ehsan> gavin: for example, the poem on that wikipedia page looks like it's written by a mad man!
# [22:01] <@ehsan> people would laugh at you if you used this dialect nowadays
# [22:01] <@gavin> heh
# [22:01] <glandium> bent: that's very weird, it looks like as if you didn't apply the patch
# [22:01] <@dolske> lol u tink langs r change fast?
# [22:02] <bent> glandium, .pyc files maybe?
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# [22:02] <@ehsan> dolske: this kind of English actually has a lot less variance to it
# [22:02] <glandium> bent: shouldn't
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# [22:02] <@ehsan> because it's still English
# [22:02] <@ehsan> once you pick up another script, you gain a lot of altitude
# [22:02] <@ehsan> which people abuse :)
# [22:03] <Ms2ger> You get high?
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# [22:03] <glandium> bz, gps: so, .deps/*.pp and config/makefiles/autotargets.mk are included twice ; all other makefiles are included once
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# [22:04] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I'm talking about writing one language in the script of another language
# [22:04] <@dolske> Ms2ger: he's saying whoever wrote that was high as fuck
# [22:04] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Persian
# [22:04] <@dolske> or maybe he meant latitude. :)
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# [22:04] <@ehsan> dolske: yeah I can buy that!
# [22:04] <@ehsan> oh
# [22:04] <@ehsan> shoot
# [22:04] <@dolske> :D
# [22:04] <@ehsan> I did mean latitude! :D
# [22:04] <@ehsan> honest mistake ;)
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# [22:12] <@bz> glandium: is there a bug on the empty deps thing?
# [22:12] <@bz> glandium: or is that 875023 ?
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# [22:12] <glandium> bz: yeah, that's it
# [22:13] <@bz> ok
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# [22:13] <@bz> Fwiw with my deque thing but without your path I get about 25s
# [22:13] <@bz> With both it's 15s
# [22:13] <@bz> Which is starting to approach sanity. ;)
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# [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f7091da82541 - Jonathan Kew - Bug 867818 - Ensure Download confirmation icon is the correct size on win/hidpi systems. r=dolske, a=akeybl
# [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d72bff7df023 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 840098. r=bz, a=bajaj
# [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f925b9989f48 - Joe Drew - Bug 861595 - Don't try to decode anything if we don't have any bytes to decode. r=seth, a=akeybl
# [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6925a549d2f0 - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 857040 - Warn on bad CRC instead of error exit. r=joe, a=akeybl
# [22:22] <jcranmer> fubar: thanks! ^_^
# [22:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7bf4574f3ddc - Bobby Holley - Bug 874083 - Ignore domain in PrepareForWrapping prototype remapping. r=gabor, r=billm, a=lsblakk
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# [22:23] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: hgp = show -M -C --binary --full-index --format=\"X-Git-Commit-ID: %H%nFrom: %an <%ae>%nSubject: %s%nX-Mailer: git-send-email%n%n%b\" -U8
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# [22:25] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: hgp = show -M -C --binary --full-index --format=\"X-Git-Commit-ID: %H%nFrom: %an <%ae>%nSubject: %s%n%n%b\" -U8
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# [22:27] <fubar> jcranmer: np!
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# [22:27] <jcranmer> fubar: the top few numbers more or less jive with what I was expecting
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# [22:28] <@ehsan> jwalden: do we have a sane std::min in the tree?
# [22:28] <fubar> cool. I wasn't sure how far down the list you really wanted to go, but figured more info was better. or at least vaguely interesting. :-)
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# [22:29] <jwalden> ehsan: amazingly, std::min is the sane thing to use :-)
# [22:29] <jcranmer> fubar: by first few I mean "mozilla-central, comm-central, mozilla-aurora"
# [22:29] <jcranmer> although I am surprised by how quickly that trails off
# [22:29] <@ehsan> jwalden: not when you have to say std::min(foo, uint32_t(bar))
# [22:29] <@ehsan> bar being a uint16_T :(
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# [22:35] <bkase> Hey, does anyone know if there exists some API call to either list all running processes (something like ps) or query for a running process from an addon?
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# [22:39] <@dolske> bkase: there is not. you'd need to do that youself using system APIs.
# [22:40] <bkase> dolske: okay, thanks for the info
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# [22:41] <msucan> pushing to try is again stuck?
# [22:41] <msucan> searching for changes .... forever like yesterday
# [22:42] <glandium> gps: there's something seriously wrong with includes
# [22:42] <glandium> *seriously*
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# [22:44] <glandium> gps: like, the statement list from when including the .deps files contains rules.mk statements
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# [22:53] <jesup|laptop> I assume people know tbpl is unhappy...
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# [22:54] <mwu> what's broken?
# [22:54] <philor> hg.m.o
# [22:55] <sfink> who's the lucky winner who got to go home with the lock file today?
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# [23:01] <timeless> philor: help
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# [23:01] <philor> timeless: what's up?
# [23:01] <timeless> philor: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Effective_TLD_Service says "publicsuffix.org is the home of the Public Suffix List, and has the most up-to-date documentation on the list format and usage."
# [23:01] <timeless> where on http://publicsuffix.org/ is there documentation for this thing?
# [23:01] <timeless> did it get eaten?
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# [23:02] <timeless> oh joy, i found it, it's hidden under submit ammendments
# [23:02] <timeless> ... wow, that was obvious
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# [23:03] <jwalden> timeless: note that the PSL is going away now, or soon, or did, and they built Unicode character class knowledge into the domain name specs to handle it, or something
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# [23:04] <@bz> /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/debug/obj-firefox/dom/bindings/Makefile:155:0: command 'pymake.builtins touch AudioNodeBinding' failed, return code -127
# [23:04] <timeless> jwalden: um, ?!
# [23:04] <@bz> What could trigger that?
# [23:04] <@bz> Sporadically, note
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# [23:04] <@bz> Oh, and also:
# [23:04] <@bz> No module named 'pymake.builtins'
# [23:04] <jwalden> timeless: kind of inevitable given that they're selling TLDs to anyone with a couple hundred $k, or so; listing them all manually wasn't scalable
# [23:05] <timeless> jwalden: yeah, well
# [23:05] <timeless> there is that
# [23:05] <timeless> but i liked it, it was useful for recognizing when someone almost certainly screwed up while writing a 'java' style app
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# [23:05] <timeless> com.example.bar = ok
# [23:05] <@ted> bz: i don't know about the latter, the former could break if you're using $(TOUCH) with shell metacharacters or something
# [23:05] <glandium> gps: forget it, i was confused by my debugging printfs
# [23:05] <timeless> notarealdomain = BAD
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# [23:06] <timeless> uk.co.something = ok
# [23:06] <timeless> uk.something = BAD
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# [23:06] <timeless> jwalden: so, um... what will browsers do to deal w/ the cookie problem?
# [23:07] <kats> is anybody else having trouble with tryserver? i'm trying to push a cset and it's timing out
# [23:07] <jwalden> timeless: I don't know, I've only seen bugmail scrollby, gerv would know
# [23:07] <timeless> jwalden: ok, well, thanks
# [23:08] <gerv> timeless: publicsuffix.org
# [23:08] <timeless> useful to know
# [23:08] <timeless> gerv: that site is useless
# [23:08] <timeless> in case you haven't noticed
# [23:08] <timeless> or at the very least unusable
# [23:08] <gerv> Actually, loads of people find it very usable, thanks.
# [23:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd0d9ac28abb - Shane Tully - Bug 790775 - Sony Ericsson Xperia Play's "circle" and "cross" D-pad buttons generate unexpected keycodes. r=cpeterson
# [23:08] <timeless> i shouldn't have to go to `submit amendments` to find the format for the file
# [23:08] <gerv> But if it doesn't work for you, feel free to create an alternative resource.
# [23:08] <timeless> you can't honestly think that's a good UX
# [23:08] <gerv> Oh, I see, that kind of unusable.
# [23:09] <gerv> Well, again, patches welcome.
# [23:09] <timeless> is it possible someone did a UI refresh on that site?
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# [23:12] <timeless> hrm, there used to be a http://web.archive.org/web/20080828090433/http://www.publicsuffix.org/format/
# [23:12] <timeless> ... which i probably found via some good page ranked link or something
# [23:12] * timeless ponders
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# [23:14] <jesup|laptop> ted: ping
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# [23:14] <@ted> jesup|laptop: pong
# [23:15] <jesup|laptop> ted: bug 870002... (ah, the pain) - did you see the comments from bsmedberg and I talking a day or two ago?
# [23:15] <timeless> oh well, i wouldn't cry if it were easier to find that content again. otoh, if you're really going to kill the service, a banner warning people w/ a pointer would be appreciated
# [23:16] <jesup|laptop> ah, you did
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# [23:17] <@ted> jesup|laptop: yeah, i just haven't had a chance to really do anything
# [23:17] <@ted> bsmedberg's suggestion to dump about:memory sounds plausible
# [23:17] <jesup|laptop> ted: so what can we do? any good way to patch the mochitest harness to dump out mem stats as we go along? Perhaps also vm fragmentation status?
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# [23:17] <@ted> i don't know that we have anything to gather VM fragmentation stats
# [23:18] <jesup|laptop> we could dump after each test
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# [23:18] <jesup|laptop> bsmedberg: ^ vm fragmentation tool?
# [23:18] <@ted> even if we could, i'm not sure it'd be super useful except to show us that we are fragmented
# [23:19] <@ted> to get useful data out of there you have to basically be doing trace-malloc
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# [23:21] <jesup|laptop> well, there are two possibilities: we're leaking along the way, or we leak a lot in the last test and go boom - or we corrupt the heap and make it *look* like we're OOM
# [23:21] <timeless> that's 3!
# [23:21] <@bz> ted: hmm
# [23:21] <@bz> ted: so what I do is...
# [23:21] <jesup|laptop> timeless: a large 2 ;-)
# [23:21] <@bz> @$(TOUCH) $@
# [23:22] <@bz> ted: which is just supposed to touch the target of the rule...
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# [23:22] <timeless> jesup|laptop: this is why you should use: there are <ul> possibilities: <li> we're ... , or <li> we .... - or <li> we corrupt
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# [23:22] <@bz> ted: and best of all, like I said, it's not happening reliably
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# [23:22] <jesup|laptop> ted: any way to tell if it's a "false" oom? I could sprinkle about:memory dumps in the test that fails
# [23:23] <@bz> or wasn't
# [23:23] * @bz gets it reliably now
# [23:23] <@bz> But only when profiling with cProfile
# [23:23] <@bz> if I'm not profiling, does not happen
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# [23:24] <@ted> jesup|laptop: getting about:memory into the log should be useful
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# [23:24] <jesup|laptop> ted: this would go in automation.py.in?
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# [23:24] <jesup|laptop> what's the best way to dump about:memory into the log, BTW?
# [23:25] <@bz> definitely only happens with cProfile
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# [23:25] <@bz> I wonder whether it's a timing issue or an actual problem with cprofile...
# [23:25] <@ted> jesup|laptop: i don't know, i'm trying to figure that out
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# [23:26] <@bz> er....
# [23:26] <@bz> did someone break jar: URIs?
# [23:27] <jesup|laptop> ted: thanks!
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# [23:27] <jesup|laptop> this is a real high priority; we need to solve it in the next week or so or likely back out a significant spec/chrome compat feature (audio/videoTrack support)
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# [23:28] <@gavin> RyanVM: bit confused about why you needinfo'd me on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874635. Has a patch from today, waiting on review, right?
# [23:28] <@bz> oh, nevermind
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# [23:29] <@smaug> ++RyanVM again :)
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# [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e3faa44c33e4 - Joey Armstrong - bug 870406: move CSRCS to moz.build (logic) r=gps
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# [23:29] <RyanVM> gavin: because I don't see dao around and want to get this landed ASAP
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# [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/df58e8e3e743 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 855570 - Deprecate Audio Data API and remove WebAudio pref check from Audio Data API deprecation warnings. r=ehsan, a=akeybl
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# [23:35] <RyanVM> smaug: you're on your own until next week on any others :)
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# [23:36] <@smaug> RyanVM: luckily I don't think I have any patches to land on branches before you're back
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# [23:36] <qDot> RyanVM: Current B2G reds are my fault. Should clear on any b2g build triggered after 14:05.
# [23:37] <RyanVM> qDot: please star and retrigger where applicable
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# [23:38] <@ted> so if i wanted to programmatically serialize a portion of a HTML document to a plaintext string
# [23:38] <@ted> how would i do that
# [23:38] * @ted thinks he used to know that
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# [23:38] <gerv> ted: innerText?
# [23:38] <gerv> or innerHTML?
# [23:38] <@ted> innerText doesn't seem to work
# [23:38] <@ted> innerHTML is the markup, i want plain text
# [23:38] <jcranmer> ted: textContent?
# [23:39] <@smaug> we don't support innerText
# [23:39] <@ted> i basically want to programmatically load about:memory, copy the contents as if to the clipboard, and spew them to stdout
# [23:39] <gerv> We do have HTML to plain text converters,
# [23:39] <@ted> ooh, textContent looks like what i want
# [23:39] <@ted> thanks
# [23:39] <gerv> but perhaps they are in thunderbird only.
# [23:39] <jcranmer> gerv: no, they're in m-c
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# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23eecc43bbfd - Bobby Holley - Bug 871306 - Add an API for directly accessing the default JSD global and use it in ActivateDebugger. r=gabor
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# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4fc957c28503 - Bobby Holley - Bug 868110 - Remove JS_GetGlobalObject. r=luke
# [23:44] <glandium> bz: try this http://diff.pastebin.mozilla.org/2432745
# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccddc9279bae - Bobby Holley - Bug 868110 - Remove JS_GetGlobalObject from the IPC test-shell. r=luke
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# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/beaf0a13cbb2 - Bobby Holley - Bug 873698 - Remove JS_GetGlobalObject from plugins. r=gabor
# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca3f8a75b3b8 - Bobby Holley - Bug 871306 - Use the current global rather than the default global in jsdContext::GetGlobalObject. r=gabor
# [23:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc3d298479a5 - Bobby Holley - Bug 868110 - Introduce a more private API for the consumers that really do need the default compartment object. r=luke
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# [23:45] <freddyb> jcranmer, gerv: dozens of parts in firefox do their own "escapeHTML" thing though :/
# [23:45] <freddyb> ted---^
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# [23:45] <freddyb> sometimes people create textareas and play with innerHTML/textContent/value
# [23:46] <freddyb> what *do* we have in m-c to do a safe innerHTML?
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# [23:46] <jwalden> define "safe"
# [23:47] <jwalden> seems to me the answer that is often moderately domain-specific
# [23:47] <freddyb> ;)
# [23:47] <@smaug> sanitizing serializer or whatever it is called
# [23:47] <freddyb> let's say html to text conversion
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# [23:47] <@smaug> (though, such serializer is for chrome code only )
# [23:48] <glandium> bz: that gets me down to 11s without touching assertions
# [23:48] <@ted> jesup|laptop: okay, i have something for you
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# [23:48] <glandium> bz: filed as 875099
# [23:48] <@ted> it's horrible
# [23:48] <@ted> but it seems to work
# [23:49] <freddyb> what a pity
# [23:49] <@ted> jesup|laptop: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2432760
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# [23:50] <@ted> that's so bad
# [23:50] <freddyb> I actually think the web1.0 would have already needed a very sane and working html sanitization library in JS
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# [23:50] <@ted> the executeSoon stuff is really bad
# [23:50] <@bz> glandium: nice
# [23:50] <@ted> but a) i don't think you can get an onload event for about:memory from non-chrome
# [23:50] <@ted> and b) about:memory doesn't really expose an event for "i finished loading data"
# [23:51] <@bz> glandium: any idea on my touch issue?
# [23:51] <@gavin> can't you add one?
# [23:51] <@bz> No module named 'pymake.builtins'
# [23:51] <@bz> /Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/debug/obj-firefox/dom/bindings/Makefile:155:0: command 'pymake.builtins touch AudioNodeBinding' failed, return code -127
# [23:51] <@bz> glandium: only when running with -m cProfile !
# [23:52] <@gavin> ted: (add an event to about:memory)
# [23:52] <@ted> gavin: could, but this was minimally invasive
# [23:52] <glandium> bz: no idea
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# [23:53] <@gavin> ted: and maximally gross :)
# [23:53] <@ted> indeed
# [23:53] <glandium> bz: actually, without -m CProfile, i'm down to 8s
# [23:53] <@ted> glandium: what's the need for the pymake change?
# [23:53] <@ted> glandium: also, i think sort will do uniq for you
# [23:53] <glandium> ted: the recursive call
# [23:54] <@ted> (i used this somewhere else)
# [23:54] <@bz> glandium: nice
# [23:54] <@bz> glandium: 8s is almost sane
# [23:54] <@ted> $(sort list) Sorts the words of list in lexical order, removing duplicate words. The output is a list of words separated by single spaces. Thus,
# [23:54] <glandium> ted: indeed
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# [23:54] <@ted> glandium: with that you shouldn't need the pymake change?
# [23:55] <glandium> ted: yup, let me test
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# [23:55] * @ted rememebrs fixing pymake's sort to remove dupes
# [23:56] <@bz> I mean....
# [23:56] <@bz> No module named 'pymake.builtins'
# [23:56] <@bz> That right there is a bit weird
# [23:56] <@bz> no?
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# [23:58] <glandium> ted: it works and it's even slightly faster :)
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# [23:59] <@ted> cool :)
# [23:59] <@ted> bz: yes, that's weird
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