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# Session Start: Thu May 30 00:00:01 2013
# Session Ident: #developers
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# [00:01] <jrmuizel> so on content that we had performance that was just under the acceptable bar we will now be unacceptable
# [00:01] <jld> So, RefreshDriverTimer... is there some way I can try to figure out why it decides to repaint?
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# [00:02] <jld> Because the b2g keyboard is responsive enough for the UX folks iff it goes off only once per touch-end/key-up, and sometimes it goes off twice and I don't know why just from my perf_event profile.
# [00:03] <mfinkle> jrmuizel: i see your point, but we still need to push the aesthetic side too
# [00:03] <mfinkle> we need to watch pageload and other metrics
# [00:03] <mfinkle> as well as memory usage
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# [00:04] <mfinkle> getting bug 821450 into mightly would help too, mainly to see how much of an affect it would have on content
# [00:05] <mfinkle> s/mightly/nightly
# [00:05] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: sure, I think it just sucks as a user to now have a slower browser at the cost of some banding
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# [00:05] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: I think most users would care more about performance than the banding
# [00:05] <mfinkle> depends on the user and the value they place on "banding"
# [00:06] <@dolske> speed, elegance, bacon. pick any two.
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# [00:06] * jhammel was hoping we had a mightly channel for a second
# [00:06] <mfinkle> :)
# [00:06] <jhammel> dolske: i think i can safely say: bacon, and more bacon.
# [00:07] <@dolske> correct.
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# [00:07] <@gavin> 2 bacons please
# [00:07] <jhammel> :)
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# [00:07] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: chrome seems to show that users care a lot about performance
# [00:07] <mfinkle> does chrome show banding?
# [00:08] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: no
# [00:08] <mfinkle> then we don't have definitive proof :)
# [00:08] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: and if you look at reviews of chrome on the app store a lot of people complain about performance
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# [00:09] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: it would feel better taking this performance hit if we could balance with a performance improvement
# [00:10] <mfinkle> and chrome loads pages ~3x faster than we do
# [00:10] <mfinkle> (based on eideticker)
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# [00:10] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: which perhaps suggest that panning performance is more important than page load
# [00:11] <jrmuizel> ?
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# [00:11] <mfinkle> maybe? assuming our panning kicks chrome's ass
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# [00:12] <jrmuizel> mfinkle: I have no idea how we compare
# [00:12] <mbrubeck> panning is a weak point in Chrome, at least on my devices
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# [00:12] <mbrubeck> Note that eideticker and tcheck2 (which we consider a more realistic test) did *not* show panning regressions from this change...
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# [00:12] <jrmuizel> mbrubeck: do we know why?
# [00:12] <mbrubeck> I don't.
# [00:13] <mbrubeck> I think tcheckerboard at least uses timecube..? I have to go look this stuff up again...
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# [00:14] <jrmuizel> I guess one of the things we probably feel is that more work went into getting the 16bit improvement than has been done in taking it away
# [00:14] <mbrubeck> Yeah, tcheck uses timecube and just pans for a really long time, while tcheck2 uses a CNN.com page and does a mix of zooming and panning in multiple directions
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# [00:15] <jrmuizel> mbrubeck: so it could be that we spend more time doing things that don't depend on 16bit vs 32bit on tcheck2
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# [00:16] <mbrubeck> yeah
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# [00:17] <mbrubeck> No wait, I'm wrong... tcheck2 is the one that regressed; tcheck did not(?)
# [00:17] <mbrubeck> (We have too many names for each test; it's confusing)
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# [00:27] <jhammel> indeed :(
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# [00:38] <ejpbruel> bholley: ping
# [00:38] <bholley> ejpbruel: hi
# [00:39] <ejpbruel> bholley: did you happen to read my email about ScriptSourcObjects?
# [00:39] <bholley> ejpbruel: yes. I even replied to it, didn't I?
# [00:39] <ejpbruel> bholley: oh, thats right. sorry
# [00:39] <bholley> ejpbruel: my reply was incorrect, but it seemed like I wasn't the best person to answer the question there
# [00:39] <ejpbruel> bholley: so i'm wondering. does the way i wrap/unwrap SSO's in that patch break any assumption xpconnect makes?
# [00:40] <ejpbruel> I'm hitting this infinite recursion error in jscompartment::wrap which *only* happens in mochitests (jittest and xpcshell test run fine)
# [00:40] <bholley> ejpbruel: what does the stack look like?
# [00:40] <ejpbruel> bholley: there *is* no stack
# [00:40] <ialagenchev> how does one go about casting from nsCOMPtr<nsIDocument> to nsCOMPtr<nsDocument> ?
# [00:40] <bholley> ejpbruel: there is definitely a stack
# [00:41] <ejpbruel> bholley: let me show you what i see
# [00:41] <bholley> ejpbruel: you should break at js_ReportErrorNumber
# [00:41] <bholley> ejpbruel: conditional on the error number being the infinite recursion message in js.msg
# [00:41] <ejpbruel> bholley: I'm breaking at js_ReportOVerRecursion
# [00:41] <RyanVM> jesup: btw, the crashtest for bug 855796 seems to cause a lot of Android timeouts on Aurora
# [00:41] <RyanVM> or crashes as the case may be
# [00:41] <ejpbruel> bholley: heres what i see: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2459523
# [00:42] <RyanVM> jesup: such as https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23550181&tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [00:42] <jwalden> hmm, is there a way to link to a sub-hunk of Splinter review comments, or no?
# [00:43] <jgilbert> bustage4lyfe
# [00:43] <bholley> ejpbruel: have you tried another platform?
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# [00:43] <bholley> ejpbruel: it seems like we need a stack here one way or another to tell what's going on
# [00:44] <ejpbruel> bholley: agreed
# [00:44] <bholley> ejpbruel: and if it's locally reproducible it's certainly possible to get a stack one way or another
# [00:44] <ejpbruel> bholley: fwiw, i don't have a stack when JSCompartment::wrap gets hit for the first time either, whether my patch is applied or not
# [00:44] <ejpbruel> bholley: I've made sure to disable the JIT so its not that either
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# [00:45] <bholley> ejpbruel: anyway, I don't think it makes sense to speculate on what might be going on here if we can reproduce it
# [00:45] <@smaug> ialagenchev: one shouldn't have nsCOMPtr<nsDocument>
# [00:45] <bholley> ejpbruel: I'm sure ted or dvander can help you get a stack somehow
# [00:45] <ejpbruel> bholley: agreed. ill try reproducing it on linux
# [00:45] <bholley> ejpbruel: ok, cool
# [00:45] <ejpbruel> bholley: dvander seemed equally stumped :)
# [00:46] <@smaug> ialagenchev: maybe you just want static_cast<nsDocument*>(some_nsCOMPtr_of_nsIDocument.get());
# [00:46] <ialagenchev> smaug: ah. That looks right. I think I missed the .get() in my attempts
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# [00:47] <@smaug> (nsCOMPtr should be used with interfaces. nsRefPtr can be used with concrete classes)
# [00:47] <daleharvey> hey, doesnt look like I can push to birch, is it locked?
# [00:47] <daleharvey> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2459548
# [00:47] <daleharvey> its my first push, so very possible my fault
# [00:47] <daleharvey> I have L3
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# [00:48] <ialagenchev> smaug: so would one always use the static_cast to convert to concretes if needed?
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# [00:49] <@smaug> ialagenchev: well, static_cast should be used only when you're absolutely sure it is safe
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# [00:49] <@smaug> in case of nsIDocument* -> nsDocument* it is safe
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# [00:50] <ialagenchev> smaug: yeah I was concerned about cases where I know it's safe that it's OK to do a cast like that
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# [00:58] <grobinson> smaug: how do you know nsCOMPtr<nsIDocument> -> nsDocument* is safe?
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# [00:59] <tbsaunde> grobinson: because gecko never creates an object that is a nsIDocument but not a nsDocument?
# [00:59] <@smaug> grobinson: well, just based on the actual code
# [00:59] <@dolske> usually it's a matter of being experienced with the code and it's unstated invariants. there's no general way to find if a nsIFoo can always be safely cast without either already knowing it or code inspection.
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# [01:00] <@ehsan> nsIDocument is a C++ interface, so it cannot be overridden by add-ons
# [01:01] <tbsaunde> in theory we could do the private constructor and friend nsDocument thing to force people other than nsDocument to not inherit directly from nsIDocument I think
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# [01:01] <grobinson> dolske: that's what I was afraid of :)
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# [01:02] <ialagenchev> just FYI for people following the convo. The suggestion from smaug worked. He gets all my bees for the day :-)
# [01:02] <tbsaunde> grobinson: its not ideal sure, but given that in the radient future those two classes should probably merged meh whatever
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# [01:04] <grobinson> tbsaunde: sure
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# [01:08] <firebot> Check-in:
# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ac719409352 - Nicolas Carlo - Bug 874205 - Unprefix transition styles from "-moz-transition" to "transition" as per the documentation in files aboutReader.css and touchcontrols.css; r=margaret
# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d49e51c7163 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 868052 - Show dynamic toolbar when hardware menu button is pressed (on all devices this time). r=lucasr,sriram
# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0316bf3f5b48 - Nicolas Carlo - Bug 872003 - Make fade from light to dark smoother and faster in aboutReader.css; r=margaret
# [01:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a76f2a5ab3a0 - Sunny - Bug 876187 - Reader Mode font size settings are too small. r=margaret
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# [01:09] <jesup> RyanVM: odd
# [01:10] <jesup> RyanVM: only android, right?
# [01:10] <RyanVM> yes
# [01:10] <jesup> ehugg_lime: ^
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# [01:10] <jesup> ehugg_lime: RyanVM jesup: btw, the crashtest for bug 855796 seems to cause a lot of Android timeouts on Aurora
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# [01:11] <jesup> maybe a memory issue?
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# [01:13] <ehugg_lime> jesup: That is strange.
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# [01:17] <philor> jesup: it only causes them "on aurora" instead of "on everywhere" because I skipped it on trunk, leading to some other one causing them instead
# [01:18] <philor> at which point I got disappointed and dropped the whole thing instead of skipping it on aurora and letting some other one time out there, too
# [01:19] <NeilAway> bah, got hit by that test plugins are only loaded in tests change :s
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# [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/727efd0b86de - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 877458. Bullet frame should honour the sync decode images flag. r=matt.woodrow
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# [01:30] <bholley> bz: ping
# [01:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12f538f501b9 - Jeff Hammel - Bug 790765 - get mozbase tests running on m-c;r=ahal
# [01:30] <bholley> bz: (in #content)
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# [01:31] <philor> tn: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=22324647f528&showall=1
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# [01:33] <philor> though that would only be the win7 slaves that will be gone tomorrow morning, not the ones that will still exist tomorrow afternoon
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# [01:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fed67bc814d - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 877382 - Remove THEBES_API decorator. - r=BenWa
# [01:33] <RyanVM> so, tbpl down for anyone else?
# [01:33] <philor> IT'S NOT DOWN FOR YOU EITHER
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# [01:33] <RyanVM> mmmm, I can taste the rage
# [01:34] <philor> oh, look downformetoo!
# [01:34] <philor> had me worried you were going to have an excuse
# [01:34] <mwu> I can't seem to load the birch tbpl
# [01:34] <firebot> Check-in:
# [01:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06889c22f8c6 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 877125 - Handle the case where the expected number of channels for the offline AudioDestinationNode and the actual input number of channels do not match; r=roc
# [01:34] <mwu> Loading failed: error (https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/birch/json-pushes?full=1&maxhours=24)
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# [01:34] <djvj> tbpl down for me too
# [01:34] <RyanVM> yay, does that mean I get to call it quits from my "half" day?
# [01:34] <mwu> yet other tbpl pages work
# [01:34] <reuben> time to push
# [01:35] <RyanVM> djvj: BTW, not convinced we're out of the wood with you yet
# [01:35] <RyanVM> dromaeo crashes on your bustage fix
# [01:35] <djvj> RyanVM: did it show an orange?
# [01:35] <RyanVM> yes
# [01:35] <djvj> RyanVM: curses
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# [01:39] * Set by philor on Sun May 26 08:59:18
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# [01:39] <djvj> RyanVM: yeah
# [01:39] <reuben> oh boy
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# [01:39] <djvj> RyanVM: does the orange show on the original push with Linux64 opt?
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# [01:40] <philor> curious, apparently valid json
# [01:41] <djvj> philor: is there something I Can pass to the URL to pull json for more (older) commits?
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# [01:41] <djvj> json-pushes?moar=yes
# [01:41] <philor> heh
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# [01:42] <RyanVM> djvj: it started on the follow-up push
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# [01:42] <philor> djvj: startID=nnnnn&endID=mmmmm, but only when that works
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# [01:42] <RyanVM> philor: interestingly, thunderbird-trunk still works
# [01:42] <dzbarsky> treestatus: watch inbound
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# [01:42] <djvj> philor: how does the AJAX on the page fetch the next several entires when you click the green down arrow?
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# [01:42] <jgilbert> in under the wire \m/
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# [01:43] <RyanVM> beta works too
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# [01:43] <RyanVM> and b2g18*
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# [01:43] <philor> djvj: exactly how I said, by passing a startID and endID, that's where I got it from, the error message while clicking the down arrow
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# [01:46] <tbsaunde> is tbpl for try borked? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2896061e39f0 doesn't load for me
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# [01:46] <hub> tbsaunde: seems to fail here, and it also say "closed, bustage"
# [01:46] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: yes, tbpl is having issues
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# [01:49] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: ping
# [01:49] <philor> RyanVM: you don't auto-join #it?
# [01:49] <RyanVM> no
# [01:49] <philor> bro, do you even lift?
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# [01:49] <RyanVM> harsh, bra
# [01:50] <RyanVM> it also *is* nearly 8pm here
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# [01:51] <philor> anyway, if you had you could have made fun of me stumbling over CORS, and then snickered at the "no downtime needed" in bug 774766
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# [01:51] <markh> nsWindowWatcher does, basically, window->GetMainWidget()->IsVisible() - any clues how I would implement that in javascript given a window in chrome code?
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# [01:52] <markh> (I'm pretty sure it's not just css' concept of visibility...)
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# [01:52] <mattwoodrow> jlebar: ping
# [01:52] <djvj> RyanVM: think I Found the issue
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# [01:53] <RyanVM> philor: hah, you mean I'm not the only one who snickers every time someone from IT or RelEng says that?
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# [01:53] <djvj> RyanVM: the _one_ time I go "oh, it's a minor change, don't need to try it again", it eats my face
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# [01:54] <RyanVM> djvj: feel free to push the follow-up once the current tbpl situation gets sorted out
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# [01:57] <djvj> RyanVM: will do once I confirm fix locally
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# [01:59] <mixedpuppy> markh: visibility api?
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# [02:00] <markh> mixedpuppy: I don't think it's that either. I *think* it's almost closer to "is window the hidden window?"...
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# [02:01] <mixedpuppy> markh: I'm probably missing context
# [02:01] <markh> the window watcher does it in the context of "this window wants to prompt for auth - should I ignore it because it is hidden?"
# [02:01] <markh> (which is exactly what I'm trying to do in a different context :)
# [02:01] <philor> djvj: tbpl bustage is cleared, how's your clearing coming along?
# [02:02] <markh> so really what I'm asking is: how do I tell if a window is "hidden enough" such that all prompt requests (auth, alert, etc) should be ignored?
# [02:02] <djvj> philor: confirming fix, build taking forever
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# [02:03] <mixedpuppy> markh: is the window a xul window or a browser window?
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# [02:04] <markh> mixedpuppy: xul I think :)
# [02:04] <markh> it's a param :)
# [02:05] <markh> mixedpuppy: basically I'm trying to emulate the code at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/embedding/components/windowwatcher/src/nsWindowWatcher.cpp#640 in js
# [02:06] <markh> but, best I can tell, the widget's IsVisible() method isn't exposed to js...
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# [02:06] <dholbert> Does anyone know what this means, when trying to place a breakpoint in GDB on mac? "Dwarf Error: Cannot find type of die [in module toolkit/library/XUL]"
# [02:06] <dholbert> (the breakpoint doesn't end up being placed)
# [02:06] <dholbert> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2459750
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# [02:07] <dholbert> (This is in a --enable-debug --disable-optimize build )
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# [02:08] <markh> (or more accurately, nsIWidget isn't exposed to js)
# [02:08] <RyanVM> philor: look familiar :\ ? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23556634&tree=Mozilla-B2g18
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# [02:10] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, in the sense of "I remember that ancient shutdown assertion" rather than "I think that's the same as the trunk one"
# [02:10] <mixedpuppy> markh: closest I can think of is nsIDocShell.isActive
# [02:10] <philor> how much longer is zombie18 going to stay semi-animated?
# [02:10] <RyanVM> too long
# [02:10] <mixedpuppy> not sure if that is in a xul window
# [02:11] <RyanVM> philor: don't forget, we still have v1_1_0 to look forward to
# [02:11] <markh> and I think the windows I care about will have an active docshell
# [02:11] <markh> they are just hosted in the hidden window
# [02:12] <mixedpuppy> markh: isActive is true if the docshell is visible
# [02:12] <mixedpuppy> unfortunate naming
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# [02:12] <dholbert> hmm, https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/chromium-bugs/Rqxr0JCydWo looks like I need to update my xcode
# [02:12] <mixedpuppy> but probably still not fully what you want
# [02:13] <markh> mixedpuppy: hmm - I thought that set explicitly...
# [02:14] <mixedpuppy> markh: I think it is, though it is also what drives the visibility api
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# [02:14] <mixedpuppy> so I presume it gets set
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# [02:15] <djvj> philor: no luck. Gonna back out.
# [02:15] <markh> mixedpuppy: eg, tabbrowser.xml explicitly adjusts that for each browser
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# [02:15] <tbsaunde> http://paste.debian.net/7458/ rs? anyone (for whenever in the far future the tree reopens)
# [02:15] <djvj> philor: is the tree closed for the dromaeo orange?
# [02:15] <djvj> philor: can I push the backout with CLOSED TREE?
# [02:16] <tbsaunde> its just making some android classes final to avoid deleting polymorphic object warnings
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# [02:26] <djvj> philor: ping
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# [02:31] <djvj> philor: gonna backout. is the close because of dromaeo orange?
# [02:31] <philor> djvj: yes
# [02:33] <RyanVM> sheesh, I'll just backout myself
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# [02:34] <djvj> RyanVM: there's a merge issue with it :(
# [02:34] <RyanVM> i've got more bustage^C^C^C^C^C^C^C patches to land
# [02:34] <jgilbert> hah
# [02:34] <philor> uh oh, someone's looking at my misspellings of intermittent in bug summaries, this can't go well
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# [02:35] <djvj> RyanVM: I'm just about to commit and push backout
# [02:35] <djvj> RyanVM: should I back off?
# [02:35] <jgilbert> what mediates how long mochitest waits before it 'times out'?
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# [02:36] <RyanVM> djvj: backed out without issue for me
# [02:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6858682eab1d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changesets 4cd1bae06bb7 and 2d34ab368ffa (bug 831507) for dromaeo crashes on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [02:37] <djvj> RyanVM: hmm, it threw up a three-way merge for me. Thanks for handling it, though.
# [02:37] <RyanVM> djvj: did you do both csets?
# [02:37] <djvj> RyanVM: I passed both of them with two '-r' flags
# [02:38] <djvj> RyanVM: maybe I got the order wrong...
# [02:38] <RyanVM> recommend qbackout if you don't use it
# [02:38] <RyanVM> then the command is just hg qbackout -e -s -r 2d34ab368ffa+4cd1bae06bb7
# [02:38] <djvj> ah
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# [02:39] <djvj> holy queued up pushes batman
# [02:39] <RyanVM> long weekend
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# [02:39] <RyanVM> still have ~20 to go
# [02:39] <RyanVM> philor: you'll notice most of what I've pushed has been string changes or fairly well segregated wrt what they touch
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# [02:39] <RyanVM> hopefully it'll at least make bustage finding easier
# [02:40] <djvj> sorry for the hassle folks
# [02:40] <RyanVM> djvj: were you going to update the bug?
# [02:40] <djvj> RyanVM: I'll do it
# [02:40] <RyanVM> thx
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# [02:44] <@ehsan> is there a command line utility for re-triggering TBPL jobs?
# [02:45] <philor> yeah, buildapi
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# [02:46] <philor> though sadly, we've always treated it so little like an api and so much like a web page that there probably isn't
# [02:46] <markh> heh - just got a mail about *planned* tree closure - that will be a novelty - and somewhat hard to notice seeing its likely to have an unplanned closure at the same time ;)
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# [02:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ab2ac31dfe0e - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 877048 - Add failing test list for android+nvidia for tegra2 slaves. - r=bjacob
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# [02:57] <@ehsan> philor|afk: what's buildapi?
# [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3869dc547459 - Shane Tully - Bug 785156 - Lock icon should toggle site security popup. r=wesj
# [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6faa7dae095 - Chiajung Hung - Bug 875608 - Use GrallocBuffer to display decoded video frame. r=bjacob
# [02:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a70d601365c5 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 874425 - More logging in outExecutionDuration tests.
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# [02:57] <philor|afk> ehsan: the thing up the path from self-serve, which is what I meant, bottom of the page at https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve
# [02:58] <@ehsan> lol
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# [02:58] <@ehsan> ah I see
# [02:58] <@ehsan> thanks!
# [02:58] <@ehsan> now I need to learn how to use curl to issue post requests
# [02:58] <RyanVM> seriously, I think this warrants a backlog closing
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# [03:09] <jlebar> mattwoodrow: ack, but I also responded in the bug.
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# [03:13] <tbsaunde> ehsan: making AppendElement() / InsertElement() return void is atleast in theory tricky since they return a pointer to what they inserted atm, which in theory people could use for useful things other than checking if they failed
# [03:13] <@ehsan> oh right
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# [03:13] <@ehsan> hmm
# [03:13] <@ehsan> actually maybe that's a bad idea
# [03:13] <tbsaunde> what?
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# [03:15] <tbsaunde> you also have interesting things you can do like ConvertUTF16toUTF8(someString, *foo.AppendElement())
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# [03:16] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I've been sort of tempted to have a type that has operator element* but deletes operator bool and see if that works
# [03:17] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: I meant maybe my idea is a bad idea :)
# [03:17] <tbsaunde> ah
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# [03:18] <tbsaunde> not being able to get rid of all the fallibility checks does suck :/
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# [03:20] <@ehsan> yeah...
# [03:20] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: one thing which we could do is to return a proxy which disables bool conversion but enables implicit ptr conversion
# [03:20] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: but I'm not sure if that won't be madness :)
# [03:21] <tbsaunde> ehsan: see like 10 lines up :p
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# [03:21] <tbsaunde> yeah, or will that not work because of pointers converting to bool implicitly?
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# [03:29] <tbsaunde> cpearce: apparently you haven't been building android with gcc 4.7 and warnings as errors, I've hit two sets of deleting object of polymorphic type warnings already :/
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# [03:31] <cpearce> tbsaunde: what are you referring to?
# [03:32] <cpearce> tbsaunde: and no, my distro has gcc 4.6.3. if you turn on warnings as errors these sort of problems is what you can expect.
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# [03:37] <cpearce> tbsaunde: seriously, what code are you referring to? that sounds like an actual error worth fixing.
# [03:37] <tbsaunde> cpearce: I got around to trying to upgrade the gcc we use to build fennec
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# [03:38] <tbsaunde> cpearce: I'm fixing them as I go first was AndroidCameraInputStream, and the current one after I fix that one is nsMimeInfoAndroid
# [03:38] <cpearce> tbsaunde: that's not my code...
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# [03:39] <cpearce> tbsaunde: maybe you meant another chris? cpeterson perhaps?
# [03:39] <tbsaunde> cpearce: I'm not blaiming you, I just thought you said at one point you used gcc 4.7 to build fennec
# [03:39] <tbsaunde> its possible
# [03:39] <dholbert> tbsaunde, yeah, cpeterson does a lot of android/fennec work; you probably mean him
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# [03:40] <cpeterson> if you're talking android warnings and gcc 4.7, that's probably me.. :\
# [03:40] <cpeterson> I have use gcc 4.7 to build Android, but we officially use gcc 4.6.
# [03:41] <dholbert> fortunately, "deleting object of polymorphic type is" generally easy to fix with MOZ_FINAL
# [03:41] <dholbert> see e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808146
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# [03:43] <cpeterson> tbsaunde: is there a specific problem that is blocking you? I see those warnings about deleting objects without virtual dtors. I started to fix some too, but it looked like a lot of work with some false positives.
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# [03:45] <dholbert> (hopefully shouldn't be too much work; given that we can build with --enable-warnings-as-errors on other platforms, and there are relatively small amounts of android-specific code (let alone FAIL_ON_WARNINGS-annotated android-specific code) )
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# [03:45] <dholbert> *build with gcc 4.7 and even 4.8, on other platforms
# [03:46] <cpeterson> dholbert: do you know if tbsaunde's goal is to fix all these deleting polymorphic type warnings?
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# [03:46] <dholbert> cpeterson, I suspect tbsaunde's goal is to be able to build successfully with ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors
# [03:46] <dholbert> and gcc 4.7
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# [03:47] <cpeterson> dholbert: for all gcc platforms? <:)
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# [03:50] <tbsaunde> cpeterson: not really blocking I just need to fix this stuff up so we can change which gcc we officially use :)
# [03:51] <tbsaunde> atleast assuming android doesn't what to be like b2g and use as ancient a compiler as you can get away with ;)
# [03:51] <cpeterson> tbsaunde: does Firefox for Linux build successfully with gcc 4.7?
# [03:51] <mwu> we'll be upgrading to at least 4.6 for the next round of devices
# [03:52] <cpeterson> \o/
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# [03:52] <dholbert> cpeterson, yeah
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# [03:52] <dholbert> cpeterson, and with gcc 4.8
# [03:52] <dholbert> yeah = yeah it builds for linux
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# [03:53] <cpeterson> dholbert: aw, shucks. I guess Android is late to the party.
# [03:53] <dholbert> srsly :)
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# [03:54] <tbsaunde> cpeterson: yeah, 4.7 has been the official compiler for a week or two now :)
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# [03:55] <GPHemsley> jcranmer: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-3.2.2
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# [03:55] <cpeterson> tbsaunde: I don't build Android with warnings-as-errors, but I'll try it. The Android toolchain we use defaults to gcc 4.6, but includes gcc 4.7 and clang 3.x for testing. So there are no toolchain issues holdings
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# [03:58] <jcranmer> no, in general I ignore comments
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# [03:58] <jcranmer> where ignore == "I don't plan for them in the parsing"
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# [04:32] <philor> RyanVM: makes perfect sense, as near as I can tell our build system is currently a perfect simulation of two 6 year olds baking a cake, so one set of builds on multiple platforms being broken isn't the least bit surprising
# [04:32] <philor> nice that while I was looking for the try push for one of them, which was merely described as being good instead of being linked to, I found a push from yesterday morning doing infinite retries of b2g tests, though
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# [04:44] <RyanVM> philor: I think I'm going to reopen inbound when I see some green bc runs near the top
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# [04:59] <@khuey|tw> bah
# [04:59] <@khuey|tw> tree is closed? :-(
# [05:00] <@khuey|tw> RyanVM: maybe I'm missing something but we look pretty caught up
# [05:00] <mattwoodrow> khuey|tw: Waiting on green bc runs I think
# [05:00] <@khuey|tw> ah
# [05:00] <qDot> khuey|tw: How's taiwan treating you?
# [05:01] <mattwoodrow> but there are a few now
# [05:01] <@khuey|tw> qDot: pretty good
# [05:01] <@khuey|tw> qDot: hot though
# [05:01] * @khuey|tw is looking forward to cool fog again
# [05:01] <@khuey|tw> qDot: the office here is in a pretty awesome location ;-)
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# [05:01] <qDot> khuey|tw: Yeah, I did a work week in April last year. Huuuuuuumid.
# [05:02] <@khuey|tw> yeah
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# [05:02] <@khuey|tw> hasn't changed :-P
# [05:02] <qDot> Ain't it? Are you staying at the Grand Hyatt?
# [05:02] <@khuey|tw> yeah
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# [05:04] <@khuey|tw> qDot: I really don't think I would ever want to drive in this country though
# [05:05] <@khuey|tw> there was a nasty cab/scooter collision 20 feet from us in front of taipei 101 last week
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# [05:06] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: Can we open the tree now? Green bc runs on the top push
# [05:06] <nigelb> khuey|tw: How long are you in tw?
# [05:06] <RyanVM> yes, osx being the important ones
# [05:06] <RyanVM> one sec
# [05:06] <@khuey|tw> nigelb: I fly out tomorrow
# [05:06] <@khuey|tw> get back to SF friday night there
# [05:06] * @khuey|tw prepares to push race mattwoodrow
# [05:07] <RyanVM> hope you're both ready to rebase
# [05:07] <@khuey|tw> waht
# [05:07] <RyanVM> I win
# [05:07] <RyanVM> :D
# [05:08] <mattwoodrow> bully
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# [05:08] <RyanVM> alright gentlemen, you have a nice evening
# [05:08] <RyanVM> and don't forget to tip your waitress
# [05:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f66d956d188e - Andreas Gal - Bug 871939 - [Dialer] Cannot search contact number when number has addtional area or operator number, r=etienne
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# [05:09] <mattwoodrow> well, at least I beat khuey|tw
# [05:09] <qDot> khuey|tw: Nonsense! Just hop on a scooter and go! The road is your road! The sidewalks are your road!
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# [05:09] <@khuey|tw> bah
# [05:09] <qDot> khuey|tw: Hit Shilin or Raohe yet?
# [05:09] <@khuey|tw> qDot: srsly
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# [05:10] <@khuey|tw> qDot: we did one of the night markets
# [05:10] <@khuey|tw> not sure which one
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# [05:11] <@khuey|tw> people led us and we followed
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# [05:11] <@khuey|tw> I don't think it was far enough away to be shlin
# [05:11] <@khuey|tw> *shilin
# [05:11] <shu> i remember really liking one of the things at the night markets that literally means "little sausage in big sausage"
# [05:12] <@khuey|tw> lol
# [05:12] <qDot> Also: Best place for snake blood is Huaxi.
# [05:12] <@khuey|tw> god damn it
# [05:13] <@khuey|tw> I've lost 3 push races now
# [05:13] <qDot> Just don't wander too far into the porn selling booths unless you want to learn some very very interesting chinese phrases. Really good prices on porn, though.
# [05:13] <@khuey|tw> LOL
# [05:13] <@khuey|tw> I wouldn't want to explain that to customs
# [05:14] <qDot> You haven't lived until you've had to explain "No it isn't a bomb but you're not going to believe me if I actually tell you what it is" to customs.
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# [05:15] <@khuey|tw> yeah I'd rather not :-P
# [05:15] <shu> khuey|tw: for some reason, chinese mainlanders (like myself) all associate taiwan with this type of pineapple confection they have. i don't think it's anything special, but perhaps try some of that
# [05:15] <qDot> OH GOD
# [05:15] <qDot> PINEAPPLE CAKE
# [05:15] <qDot> BUY ALL OF THE PINEAPPLE CAKE AND BRING IT BACK TO ME
# [05:16] <@khuey|tw> pineapple cacke?
# [05:16] <@khuey|tw> why have I not been introduced to this yet?
# [05:16] <shu> feng li su, yeah
# [05:16] <shu> it's not a big cake
# [05:16] <shu> it's like fig newtons
# [05:16] <qDot> Dude go yell at the office. They will hook you up.
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# [05:16] <shu> but a lot better
# [05:16] <qDot> Yeah, and bring a huge box back please.
# [05:16] <@khuey|tw> ok
# [05:16] <@khuey|tw> we had some sort of cake
# [05:16] <qDot> You can get it here in SF, but I can't find the same brand.
# [05:16] <qDot> And it's not nearly as good.
# [05:16] <@khuey|tw> but I don't think it was pineapple cake
# [05:16] <@khuey|tw> it certainly didn't taste like pineapple
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# [05:17] <qDot> Yeah. Comes in little packages, has a pineapple on it. You'll know it when you see/have it.
# [05:17] <@khuey|tw> yeah haven't had that
# [05:17] <@khuey|tw> I'll ask about it
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# [05:21] <shu> khuey|tw: yeah, just ask for "feng li su", pretty sure there's an entire industry dedicated to just that
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# [05:21] <shu> khuey|tw: since all chinese nationals buy it as gifts for back home
# [05:21] <qDot> There's a whole shop dedicated to it at the airport.
# [05:23] <@khuey|tw> lol
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# [05:27] <@roc> mmmm I need another one of those mango frozen desserts from the basement of Taipei101
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# [05:27] <@khuey|tw> I'm not stopping in NZ on the way back :-P
# [05:27] <shu> southeast asia has the best frozen desserts!
# [05:27] <qDot> The shaved ice?
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# [05:29] <shelly> shaved ice is perfect for these days in TW!
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# [05:30] <@roc> yes, the shaved ice
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# [05:30] <@roc> the specific formula, from bottom to top, is: chunks of mango, shaved ice, condensed milk, brown sugar syrup, mango ice cream
# [05:31] <nigelb> wow.
# [05:31] <@khuey|tw> fruit, water, sugar, sugar, sugar
# [05:31] <@khuey|tw> sounds good!
# [05:32] <@roc> I think there's some fat in there as well
# [05:32] <qDot> Ah, yeah, I've actually found a couple of places in the bay area that do that.
# [05:32] <@khuey|tw> yeah in the milk
# [05:32] <qDot> Both in asian malls, of course. :D
# [05:32] <qDot> It's so damn good.
# [05:32] <@roc> hi shelly!
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# [05:33] <@roc> you can get ice kacang, a Malaysian version, here
# [05:33] <qDot> Oh my god you can apparently tour the ChiaTe pineapple cake bakery in taipei.
# [05:33] <qDot> How have I not done this yet.
# [05:33] <shelly> hey !
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# [05:33] <nigelb> qDot: Quick, book your tickets, you can get there for the weekend!
# [05:34] <@khuey|tw> that would be a long weekend
# [05:34] <@roc> and there's bizarro "snow ice" version here which I think is an Asian chain, but I haven't seen it elsewhere
# [05:34] <@roc> http://www.atriumonelliott.co.nz/business/is2-snow-ice
# [05:34] <@khuey|tw> 24 hours just of flying
# [05:34] <@khuey|tw> expensive too ;-)
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# [05:34] <@dolske> lots of time to eat pineapple cake.
# [05:34] <@roc> hmm, it's from Taiwan.
# [05:34] <qDot> Yeah I'll wait until we plan a last minute B2G work week there
# [05:34] <@roc> I should have known.
# [05:34] <nigelb> And teasing left and right of the date line.
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# [05:36] <shelly> Or try some "sun pastry", "moon cake" next time
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# [05:37] <@khuey|tw> why are people only telling me about these things now? :-P
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# [05:37] <@roc> is that "moon cake" like Chinese mid-autumn festival moon cake?
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# [05:38] <@roc> IS2 is quite hard to Google for. It's both a frozen dessert and a WW2 Soviet tank.
# [05:38] <shelly> yep!
# [05:39] <shelly> not usually my favorite, but we have those cakes in ice-cream version!
# [05:39] <qDot> I'd say visit a Muji too, but we have one here in SF now. The largest one in the US, actually.
# [05:39] <@dolske> It's a dessert topping and a floor wax!
# [05:40] <qDot> dolske++
# [05:40] <@roc> ice cream moon cakes? intriguing.
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# [05:40] <@roc> there's plenty of moon cake around here at festival time, but I haven't seen an ice-cream version.
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# [05:41] <@roc> "Use Deep Ocean Water: 100 times richer in minerals & nutrients"
# [05:41] <@roc> that sounds quite wrong
# [05:41] <ewong|away> roc go to Hagendaz (sp?) during mid-autumn festival.. they have ice cream moon cakes
# [05:41] <firebot> The dictionary service is not accessible right now, sorry.
# [05:41] <shelly> well, ice cream goes well with anything
# [05:42] <@roc> true
# [05:42] <@khuey|tw> shelly++
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# [05:42] <@dolske> mmmm. ice cream and mayo.
# [05:42] <@roc> ewong|away: Haagen-dazs doesn't exist here
# [05:43] <ewong|away> roc oh.. no loss there :)
# [05:43] <@roc> we have pretty good icecream but it's mostly indigenous
# [05:43] <@bz> shelly: not with pickles, imo
# [05:43] <@roc> have you tried it?
# [05:44] <@bz> I have, once
# [05:44] <@bz> Just to test the theory that it's not very good
# [05:44] <@roc> ok, bluff called
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# [05:44] <shelly> bz, lol
# [05:44] <@dolske> ha
# [05:44] <@bz> Maybe a different flavor would have worked better.
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# [05:44] <qDot> Also for cakes, I recommend Hello Kitty Sweets Cafe. Warning: You may be the only one of all of the following in the place: white, male, american.
# [05:44] * @bz tried vanilla
# [05:44] <@khuey|tw> lol
# [05:44] <qDot> At least, my experience, but if I'm going to asia I'm making some sort of sanrio pilgramage, damnit.
# [05:44] <@bz> On the other hand, I have observed my son eat pickles with ice cream and he seems to like it
# [05:44] <@roc> a Hello Kitty Cafe just opened near our office, but no-one's been brave enough to try it yet
# [05:44] <@bz> so maybe it's a matter of taste.
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# [05:44] <@bz> Or maybe he's barely 3. ;)
# [05:45] <@roc> that's the way, experiment on your kids
# [05:45] <@khuey|tw> that's what they're for right?
# [05:45] <@dolske> As it happens, I'm planning on making an ice cream float later with http://www.rogue.com/beers/double-chocolate-stout.php
# [05:45] <qDot> dolske: Oh man that works out SO WELL
# [05:45] <@roc> khuey|tw: that's what it said on the instructions I got
# [05:46] <qDot> Rogue's chocolate is GREAT for beer floats.
# [05:46] <shelly> roc, Hello Kitty cake? interesting
# [05:46] <@roc> it's not a cake shop specifically. Just a cafe. A very pink cafe.
# [05:46] <@roc> it does seem to have a lot of desserts.
# [05:46] <shelly> but i've seen Angry Bird cakes here lol
# [05:46] <@dolske> iknorite? last (aka the first) bottle I had I couldn't help but notice how it was practically a chocolate syrup.
# [05:47] <@roc> I haven't dared stop long enough to read the menu properly.
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# [05:47] <shelly> roc, lol
# [05:47] <qDot> The one in Taipei: http://www.ladyironchef.com/2013/04/hello-kitty-sweets-cafe-taipei/ I went when I was there last time. Surprisingly enough I couldn't get anyone to go with me.
# [05:47] <@roc> not the sort of place a man can afford to be seen standing around
# [05:48] <qDot> Um.
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# [05:48] <@khuey|tw> lol that's great
# [05:49] <@roc> that cafe is less pink than ours
# [05:49] <@khuey|tw> more purple?
# [05:49] * qDot wants a san-x cafe.
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# [05:51] <@roc> I know, I can go to the Hello Kitty Cafe with my wife and claim she made me do it
# [05:52] <shelly> and pretend you don't like it
# [05:52] <qDot> Just buy Badtz Maru stuff. That'll make you seem all bad ass. Inasmuch as a sanrio character can be.
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# [06:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8f4682511308 - Brad Lassey - bug 877203 - Replace Open Sans with Clear Sans r=mfinkle
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# [06:11] <philor> don't forget, current trunk is the next ESR, so every time you disable an intermittent test, a kitten gets his wings
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# [06:18] <glob> philor, do you have a bug number for your quicksearch sodomy-related issue?
# [06:18] <philor> glob: nope, I find little satisfaction in filing "this was a bad choice" against your upstream ;)
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# [06:23] <glob> philor, is the issue with it treating apostrophes as a quote character?
# [06:25] <philor> glob: yeah, if we have a single assertion in the entire tree which doesn't have a single contraction in its message, I don't think I've seen it yet
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# [06:28] <aja> blassey: have an url for Clear Sans? didn't find anything searching monotype's site
# [06:28] <blassey_> aja: I don't
# [06:29] <blassey_> ibarlow emailed me the files
# [06:29] <aja> k...tks
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# [06:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1a60bc1d6b7 - Brad Lassey - bug 867517 - Gecko-based WebView for Android, add GeckoView r=mfinkle
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# [06:40] <Callek> ok who's going to complain about being unable to push to /try?
# [06:40] <dumitru> is try slow?
# [06:40] <dumitru> :p
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# [06:41] <Callek> dumitru: you're evil.. real real evil
# [06:41] <dumitru> haha
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# [06:41] <Callek> also one of the last persons I'd expect to complain about it :-)
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# [06:45] <glob> philor, as it's a regression i think there's a reasonable chance it will be fixed. filed bug 877545, patch attached and up for review
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# [06:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e274bbbd493b - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 868405. Part 1: Add a few MOZ_OVERRIDES. r=jesup
# [06:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45e88ec6ac1f - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 868405. Support 'enabled' attribute on MediaStreamTrack. r=jesup
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# [06:48] <@dbaron> roc, was the ice cream place with the mango ice cream in 台北101 just the one at the bottom of the escalator?
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# [06:49] <@roc> it was next to the bubble tea place in the central core
# [06:49] <@dbaron> roc, ok, thanks
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# [06:57] <philor> roc: bustage, CLOSED TREE
# [06:57] <@roc> er
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# [06:57] <philor> and good morning!
# [06:57] <@roc> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound says Open
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# [06:58] <@roc> ok
# [06:58] <@roc> this built when I did my try run
# [06:58] <@roc> or maybe not
# [06:58] <philor> yeah, that's an abbreviation, "there's a problem with your push, severe enough that I need to prevent other landings on top, your fix or backout will need to include the phrase CLOSED TREE because I'm heading over to treestatus to close"
# [06:59] <@roc> ah ok
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# [07:03] <@roc> fix pushed
# [07:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72672b33604b - Robert O'Callahan - Fix build bustage for bug 868405, CLOSED TREE
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# [07:04] <@roc> philor: FWIW I think this bustage will only show up on Mac
# [07:05] <@roc> he said hopefully
# [07:05] <philor> :)
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# [07:06] <philor> you're not going to go big, certainly not by the standards of the last few days, with just a simple build bustage anyway
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# [07:07] <philor> if it doesn't build and then fail every single test suite, during a time when at least 10 people will have pushed on top before the first failure shows, it hardly even counts as bendage, much less bustage
# [07:07] <Callek> and then you also get birch corrupted and tbpl failing to load from hg
# [07:07] <Callek> then you're in this weeks standard
# [07:07] <Callek> or maybe you're just close, I'm unsure
# [07:07] <philor> birch is morally corrupt no matter what, the repo was just a visible reflection
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# [07:08] <Callek> hahahahaha
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# [07:16] <mjrosenb> err
# [07:17] <mjrosenb> anyone know what ryanvm wanted?
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# [07:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7aae5ead16f - Gavin Sharp - Bug 875342: fix JS channel-specific features to use the right build-time logic, r=sstangl
# [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ff67e9fc182 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 486660: disable whatsnew and firstrun pages for Nightly builds, since we have no useful content for them, r=dolske
# [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/164fc337248e - Raymond Lee - Bug 840692 - Use HTTPS instead of HTTP for startup pages (startup.homepage_override_url and startup.homepage_welcome_url) r=gavin
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# [07:24] <philor> roc: is your Windows bustage the same bustage, and already fixed?
# [07:25] <markh> bz_sleep: seeing you are responding on bugs, I figure it's worth a ping - so: ping
# [07:25] <@roc> I think so
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# [07:26] <@bz_sleep> markh: ack
# [07:26] <markh> I guess someone else might know - bz_sleep suggesting doing a heap dump to work out who has a reference to a window - anyone know what that means exactly?
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# [07:26] <markh> ahh - ^^
# [07:27] <markh> is a heap dump something I'm likely able to do and read?
# [07:27] <ejpbruel> so i finally got burned by the fact that i compile on mac
# [07:27] <ejpbruel> gdb does *not* work well on mac with multiple threads
# [07:27] <@bz> markh: do, yes. read... <sigh>
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# [07:27] <@bz> markh: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance:Leak_Tools#Cycle_collector_heap_dump
# [07:28] <markh> heh - FWIW, we tried a CC and GC via about:mem and the problem remains, so I think the heap dump sounds like the next step
# [07:28] <@bz> markh: which will dump out the object graph the cc knows about....
# [07:28] <@bz> markh: and then you can try to see what's keeping things alive
# [07:28] <markh> bz: and I should use those addons to help interpret it?
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# [07:56] <@bz> markh: I tend to use smaug and mccr8 to interpret...
# [07:56] <@bz> markh: but yes, the addons help too.
# [07:57] <markh> heh - ok, thanks - I'll see what I can find
# [07:57] <@bz> markh: good luck
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# [07:57] <markh> thanks, I certainly need it!
# [07:58] <@dbaron> It helps to understand what the cycle collector is doing when interpreting them...
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# [07:58] <@khuey|tw> it's collecting cycles of course
# [08:00] <@dbaron> that sounds more like a bicycle thief
# [08:00] <@khuey|tw> dbaron++
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# [08:03] <philor> blassey_: reftests don't seem to be going too well with Clear Sans
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# [08:18] <glob> anyone else seeing poor animated gif performance recently? eg. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16292140/bug-small.gif
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# [08:19] <philor> I thought it was pretty poor in my IRC client, until I opened it in Firefox and saw what truly poor is
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# [08:20] <glob> philor, thanks
# [08:22] <philor> dholbert: so, was that postflight failure on OS X I saw earlier today from your previous landing?
# [08:22] <philor> like the one now?
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# [08:22] <dholbert> philor, looking...
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# [08:23] <dholbert> philor, green on Try (in a push between the earlier landing & now): https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=961b0042a028
# [08:23] <philor> conveniently, we're already closed while I wait for a second opinion on the Fennec reftests
# [08:23] <dholbert> maybe needs a clobber?
# [08:24] <dholbert> I don't know what a postflight failure means
# [08:25] <philor> it's when the two halves of the build, the 32-bit and the 64-bit, get shoved together, or in the case where parts that are expected to be identical are not identical, when they fail to get shoved together
# [08:25] <@dbaron> maybe it's what happens when the tires burst while taxing to the gate after landing?
# [08:25] <@dbaron> taxiing
# [08:25] <dholbert> :)
# [08:25] <dholbert> it looks like the specific issue is http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2460728
# [08:26] <dholbert> lipo: i386/.../proclaunch and x86_64/.../proclaunch have the same architectures (i386) and can't be in the same fat output file
# [08:27] <dholbert> philor, ryanVM fixed the earlier postflight issue by clobbering
# [08:27] <dholbert> in e.g. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=3bead9d0a8a0
# [08:27] <philor> "fixed"
# [08:27] <dholbert> :)
# [08:27] <dholbert> I'll clobber & retrigger, unless you're already doing that
# [08:28] <philor> no, I'm thinking that means that something landed which can only build clobbered, not dep
# [08:28] <philor> and that I've been shat upon
# [08:28] <dholbert> that's probably true
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# [08:28] <dholbert> the first part at least
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# [08:29] <philor> he clobbered at 20:07, one of your slaves started a build at 20:09, clobbered and did one green build, failed its first dep
# [08:30] <philor> great, last night, when the shit finished passing through the fan at 23:25, was actually a *good* night
# [08:31] * dholbert suspects BenWa's push "Dual link libxul.so and libxul-unit.so" immediately before the TBPL cycle that I linked above might be responsible
# [08:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/637055f71289 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 8f4682511308 (bug 877203) for reftest failures
# [08:35] <philor> no idea how to test that a speculative backout has successfully allowed us to do dep builds, when someone has set a clobber
# [08:35] <philor> very slowly retrigger builds, while staying closed overnight?
# [08:36] <philor> trigger enough to saturate the build pool, and then one more?
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# [08:39] <@roc> philor: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87e2bfbb427d needs to be backed out for test failures
# [08:40] <@roc> should I?
# [08:40] <philor> roc: what test failure, the reftest that came up at you from below because of the default font change?
# [08:41] <markh> mxr down :(
# [08:41] <markh> oh - only briefly :)
# [08:41] <@roc> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23574871&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [08:41] <philor> oh, that one :)
# [08:41] <philor> I'll get it, lemme finish off this other one I've got halfway backed out
# [08:42] <@roc> ok
# [08:42] <@roc> thanks
# [08:42] <philor> I think I'm going to take out both of BenWa's, one at a time with a little space between
# [08:43] <philor> once I stop bouncing off my own closed tree hook
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# [08:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4f940af8df8 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 816311e43409 (bug 844288) on suspicion of causing dep OS X universal builds to fail in packaging
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# [08:46] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [08:47] <philor> whoever it was that came up with the inbound2 idea, where to compound the stress of these multiple backouts I would also be having to pick a clean rev and merge it to another tree and watch that tree while watching this tree and merge it back again, they were doing some real thinking
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# [08:53] <philor> yep, just avoiding coalescing at all costs
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# [08:55] <philor> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/recent/panda-0869
# [08:55] <philor> damn I love me some pandas
# [08:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0177a43b9dae - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 87e2bfbb427d (bug 874295) for mochitest-1 failures
# [08:57] <philor> okay, 61 unstarred and it's not even midnight by three minutes!
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# [09:03] <philor> anybody else?
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# [09:09] <philor> now that you mention it, not a bad idea
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# [09:24] <Ms2ger> You think he drinks by the glass at this stage?
# [09:25] <Callek> Ms2ger: well I'd be shocked that he can actually find these problems if he didn't.... I do suppose he drinks slow enough to never pass out drunk, but always has a bit of alchohol in his system to keep from going on rage-fests though
# [09:26] <philor> now that you mention it, not a bad idea
# [09:28] <philor> but no, I almost never combine alcohol and computers
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# [09:36] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/happy-bmo-push-day-47/
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# [09:40] <Ms2ger> Coming up to a year, eh
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# [09:44] <@khuey|tw> ah is that why bugzilla crapped out a little while ago?
# [09:45] <philor> nice, postflight failure on my second backout
# [09:45] <philor> do I have to clobber in order to get back to the state where dep builds will work?
# [09:45] <@khuey|tw> firebot: uuid
# [09:45] <firebot> 4498aa26-62df-4a4f-8a45-7ddfd7f84834 (/msg firebot cid for CID form)
# [09:46] <glob> khuey|tw, yes, you would have seen errors during a 15 second period
# [09:46] <Callek> or even worse, it might not have been either of those csets that caused the postflight issue
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# [09:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a090a8a7684 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 876394 - Popup notification goes unnoticed in unfocused windows. r=gavin
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# [10:28] <heycam> hmm, my push to try has stopped on "2 changesets found" for about 5 minutes now
# [10:28] <heycam> afraid I'll break things by Ctrl+Cing… :\
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# [10:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8ab8321f674 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 827915 - Get rid of SVG's own invalidation mechanisms and rely on DLBI instead. r=dholbert
# [10:30] <heycam> nice code removal :)
# [10:30] <@dbaron> I'm failing to load tbpl, json-pushes isn't loading
# [10:31] <heycam> wonder if that's related
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# [10:31] <@dbaron> if only I remembered which bugzilla component this sort of thing goes in
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# [10:36] <heycam> my try push finally succeded
# [10:37] <Satael> Hi there, no one answering in introduction.... How do I find Mentored/First bug in Bugzilla??
# [10:37] <heycam> Satael, you can try http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/
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# [10:37] <Jesse> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=sw%3Amentor (562 bugs!)
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# [10:38] <Satael> Thanks Guys
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# [10:45] <Kwan> Anyone on Windows willing to do a quick bug check for me? I can't install nightly at the moment.
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# [10:48] <@khuey|tw> Kwan: I can try
# [10:48] <Kwan> With security.mixed_content.block_active_content set to true (default now?) does trying to download Quicktime from http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ work or do you get a blocked content icon in the URL bar before it goes to the thanks page with no download?
# [10:50] <@khuey|tw> Kwan: it does not work
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# [10:50] <@khuey|tw> Kwan: I see the same thing
# [10:50] <Kwan> cool, thanks
# [10:50] <@khuey|tw> Kwan: on the may 18th nightly fwiw
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# [11:01] <Kwan> ah, already filed as bug #864787 for iTunes using the same mechanism
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# [11:01] <@khuey|tw> heh
# [11:01] <nmatsakis> dholbert: pong
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# [11:06] <Yoric> Do we have _any_ document recapitulating when nsCOMPtr<T>::swap() can/should be used?
# [11:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87b0f81d811f - Jan de Mooij - Bug 876429 - Implement JSOP_SETCALL in the baseline compiler. r=bhackett
# [11:07] <Ms2ger> When you want to swap two pointers?
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# [11:08] <@khuey|tw> you should always use it
# [11:08] <@khuey|tw> every line of your code :-P
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# [11:27] <glazou> bonjour
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# [11:29] <glazou> anhyone from paris office here ?
# [11:29] <glazou> anyone even
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# [11:31] <Ms2ger> Perhaps mounir knows someone
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# [11:31] <glazou> but is mounir here? :)
# [11:32] <AutomatedTester> mounir works in the London office
# [11:32] <Ms2ger> Yeah, but he's French
# [11:32] <AutomatedTester> well the question earlier wasnt who was french
# [11:32] <AutomatedTester> anyone from the paris office
# [11:33] <AutomatedTester> phrawzty: is Canadian and works there sometimes
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# [11:37] <ferongr> a site using indexedDB for filestorage not cleaning after itself may end up filling the user's disk as the database grows (I just had to delete a 15GB mega iDB folder. Is this usability problem tracked in a bug somewhere?
# [11:38] <AutomatedTester> I thought sites only had a maximum of 5MB
# [11:39] <AutomatedTester> well each domain had 5mb
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# [11:43] <NeilAway> Yoric: generally in a loop, e.g. in JS where you would just write while ((foo = foo.parent) != null), in C++ you have to have a temporary for the parent, then swap it with foo
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# [11:43] <AutomatedTester> ferongr: I am wrong https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/IndexedDB
# [11:43] <ferongr> It's been a long time, I don't remember if I ever ghot a prompt and the permissions dialog doesn't show anything about indexedDB
# [11:43] <AutomatedTester> Firefox: no limit on the IndexedDB database's size. The user interface will just ask permission for storing blobs bigger than 50 MB. This size quota can be customized through the dom.indexedDB.warningQuota preference (which is defined in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libpref/src/init/all.js).
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# [11:44] <ferongr> in any case, my 60GB SSD filled this morning and I had to hunt down what ate all the space since iDB size is not revealed anywhere in FX's UI
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# [11:48] <@khuey|tw> ferongr: what website was this?
# [11:48] <@khuey|tw> if you don't mind sharing
# [11:48] <ferongr> mega.co.nz
# [11:48] <@khuey|tw> ah
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# [11:49] <ferongr> maybe an evangelism bug would be appropriate
# [11:49] <Yoric> NeilAway: Ok, that makes sense, thanks. We should probably have a document about the uses of swap(), forget(), NS_ProxyRelease(0, etc.
# [11:49] <@khuey|tw> ferongr: well we got rid of the limit with the expectation that we would write a better UI for dealing with this stuff
# [11:49] <padenot> glazou: I'm from the paris office
# [11:49] <@khuey|tw> ferongr: and then b2g happened and that didn't
# [11:50] * @khuey|tw should go find that bug
# [11:50] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, though foo = parent.forget() makes more sense now, I think
# [11:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c0c49dd4e91 - Jacek Caban - Bug 876366 - Avoid pointer to long casts in PerfSpewer::writeProfile. r=nmatsakis
# [11:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e28042c1b97 - Jacek Caban - Bug 864774 - Added missing ASFILES to moz.build. r=glandium
# [11:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/69680cd3fe39 - Jacek Caban - Bug 855975 - Include typo fix.
# [11:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/06c206f9a94a - Jacek Caban - Bug 876416 - Pass -static-libgcc flag to NSPR and NSS. r=glandium
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# [12:00] <mounir> AutomatedTester: I used to work from the Paris office
# [12:01] <AutomatedTester> mounir: I know
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# [12:02] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: good point, are you going to deprecate swap for us?
# [12:02] <Ms2ger> Meh
# [12:02] <Ms2ger> I should get rid of that getter_AddRefs overload first
# [12:02] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: which one?
# [12:02] <Ms2ger> The one that takes T*
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# [12:04] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: so not the the nsISupports** cast overload then?
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# [12:05] <Ms2ger> No
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# [12:05] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: oh, you mean the one that should be written dont_AddRef?
# [12:05] <Yoric> Yeah, |swap| looks dangerous.
# [12:06] <Yoric> Especially, the pointer version.
# [12:06] <@khuey|tw> the pointer version is dangerous if you don't initialize the pointer
# [12:06] <@khuey|tw> that's why we have forget(T**)
# [12:06] <NeilAway> but nobody's updated the codebase
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# [12:07] <@khuey|tw> you've been around long enough to know that we don't udpate the codebase
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# [12:27] <edmorley> mak: ping
# [12:27] <mak> edmorley: pong
# [12:27] <edmorley> mak: hey, how are you? :-)
# [12:28] <mak> edmorley: busy :D
# [12:28] <edmorley> :-)
# [12:28] <mak> and also a bit hungry
# [12:28] <edmorley> mak: I don't suppose you have an eta for being able to look at the #1 toporange at the moment, bug 858377 ? .
# [12:30] <mak> edmorley: hm it's in queue with much other stuff, I will try though before EOW, thanks for the reminder
# [12:30] <edmorley> mak: ok, thank you :-)
# [12:30] <mak> I was not aware it was top 1
# [12:30] <mak> that increases priority
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# [12:31] <edmorley> mak: I'm presuming comment #194 got lost in the noise? I find using the xheaders to separate out the tbplbot comments useful fwiw :-)
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# [12:35] <mak> edmorley: yes, I get far too much bugmail and it's very hard to separate properly the bunch of mails coming from intermittent failures... Your suggestion to separate tplbot comments sounds good and I will do
# [12:35] <edmorley> :-)
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# [12:40] <@dbaron> edmorley, I'm wondering if the tree is safe to be open right now...
# [12:40] <@dbaron> edmorley, or are the problems now better?
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# [12:42] <edmorley> dbaron: the disconnects were limited to the tegras/pandas, and within a short timeframe, so I imagine it will have 'just' been another anoying VPN blip
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# [12:42] <edmorley> +n
# [12:43] <edmorley> oh the blue
# [12:43] <edmorley> (hidden by only unstarred view)
# [12:44] <edmorley> caused by hg.m.o timeouts, they seem to be all within a short timeframe, and hg.m.o seems to be responding for me now, so happy to leave open for the moment
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# [13:00] <Ms2ger> freelance writer
# [13:02] <edmorley> :P
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# [13:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b90dc12c232c - Dave Camp - Bug 876793 - gDevTools._addToolToWindows doesn't work with existing windows. r=jwalker
# [13:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b6f1f43be504 - Victor Porof - Bug 876111 - Debugger's scripts pane acting weird after bug 866623, r=rcampbell
# [13:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8b8102fdb5fd - Dave Camp - Bug 867109 - tools reload not working correctly on windows. r=jwalker
# [13:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d0e2d9035232 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
# [13:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/008e4e53a4ff - Tim Taubert - Bug 876968 - Remove HiddenBrowsers observers only if they have been added before; r=jaws
# [13:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bcd65c77dc23 - Dave Camp - Bug 875432 - Loader.jsm references gDevTools. r=jwalker
# [13:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/05b92933f593 - Dave Camp - Bug 875437 - Close the debugger client in test_add_actors.js. r=past
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# [13:24] <NeilAway> Gijs: does the event actually bubble up or is that just XBL propagation?
# [13:24] <Gijs> NeilAway: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE, need more context.
# [13:24] <Gijs> Which/what/where event?
# [13:26] <NeilAway> Gijs: blog post
# [13:26] <Gijs> Oh, the favicon load event?
# [13:26] <Gijs> that is an interesting question.
# [13:26] <Gijs> I do not know the difference between "actually bubble up" and "XBL propagation" in this case, tbh.
# [13:27] * Gijs would need to look at it again.
# [13:27] <Gijs> Regardless, listening for that event not the right thing to do... ;)
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# [13:27] <Gijs> *is not, even
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# [14:50] <edmorley> remote changed foo which local deleted ... use (c)hanged version or leave (d)eleted?
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# [14:50] <edmorley> that error message always makes me cross
# [14:50] <Ms2ger> d
# [14:51] <edmorley> yeah 95% of the time
# [14:51] <edmorley> but as far as unhelpful messages go...
# [14:52] <edmorley> in this case, not sure d is correct since there were several backouts involved
# [14:52] <sheppy> that message always happens when I haven't changed any local files ever.
# [14:52] <sheppy> That makes me angry. Just make my copy match the latest version goddammit.
# [14:52] <edmorley> in this case, it's a merge of inbound and m-c
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# [14:53] <RyanVM> edmorley: yeah, d would have been the right call
# [14:53] <RyanVM> oh well
# [14:53] <RyanVM> I already merged m-c to inbound, fwiw
# [14:54] <avih> i could use some help with push to inbound. i updated my tree then qpush; qfinish -a, then push, but apparently the tree has been updated since my pull. i then did pull -u, which added changesets but didn't update "crosses branches (merge branches or update --check to force update)". what's my next step?
# [14:54] <RyanVM> edmorley: https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00119553c9d8
# [14:54] <edmorley> RyanVM: ah, ha :-)
# [14:54] <RyanVM> *sigh* I even took the time to look at the hg history
# [14:54] <RyanVM> and still made the wrong call
# [14:54] <RyanVM> fail
# [14:55] <edmorley> RyanVM: I was peering at it just now too, clear as mud
# [14:55] <RyanVM> I missed that Wes' intent in that patch was to remove it
# [14:55] <avih> edmorley: ^?
# [14:56] <RyanVM> anyway, I vote we make life easy and just pull an inbound changeset post-that work :)
# [14:56] <RyanVM> avih: qimport
# [14:56] <RyanVM> qpop
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# [14:56] <RyanVM> hg pull -u
# [14:56] <RyanVM> hg qpush
# [14:56] <RyanVM> hg qfin
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# [14:56] <RyanVM> hg push
# [14:56] <edmorley> RyanVM: I think I'll just leave the inbound merge until after the merge the other way goes green, save needing any more manual confilct resolution
# [14:56] <RyanVM> edmorley: Yes
# [14:57] <RyanVM> avih: you *could* also just pull the updated inbound and merge, but qimport is cleaner IMO
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# [14:57] <avih> RyanVM: how do i remove traces of previous qpush;qfin ?
# [14:57] <edmorley> avih: for each of the changesets you qfinished, you need to do |hg qimport -r <hash>| then the above
# [14:57] <RyanVM> qimport
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# [14:58] <Ms2ger> Or hg qimport -r foo:bar for a range
# [14:59] <avih> RyanVM: qimp then qpop doesn't do anything. update still gives the same message about cross branches
# [14:59] <RyanVM> what does hg out say?
# [14:59] <avih> i mean, qimp works, but update still doesn't
# [14:59] <Ms2ger> hg out... What he said
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# [15:00] <avih> $ hg update
# [15:00] <avih> abort: crosses branches (merge branches or update --check to force update)
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# [15:00] <RyanVM> avih: did you qimport more than one patch?
# [15:01] <avih> i basically want to revert the qfin, or re-apply it on top of latest remote tree
# [15:01] <RyanVM> yes
# [15:01] <Ms2ger> So what does hg out say?
# [15:01] <avih> no, initially the tree was clean, then one qimp, qpush, qfin, push
# [15:01] <RyanVM> you need to qpop
# [15:01] <RyanVM> when you qimport, it puts it back into your series
# [15:02] <Ms2ger> And keeps it applied
# [15:02] <RyanVM> avih: so the basic commands would be
# [15:02] <RyanVM> avih: qimport -r <cset> && hg qpop -a && hg pull -u && hg qpush -a && hg qfin -a && hg push
# [15:03] <avih> hmm.. hg out shows 4 changesets, with only the bottom one which i intended to push...
# [15:03] <RyanVM> ok, now we're getting somewhere :)
# [15:03] <avih> the other 3 were previous versions of the patch..
# [15:04] <RyanVM> if you don't need them anymore, you can qimport them all, qpop -a, then qdel the 3 old ones
# [15:04] <avih> this is weird. the initial qimp definitely had one patch and one changeset...
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> Wait, you've got four versions of one patch applied at the same time?
# [15:05] <avih> RyanVM: how do i just delete any local changes and sync my local repo to the remote tree? i just need a clean inbound
# [15:05] <RyanVM> if you don't care about anything
# [15:05] <RyanVM> hg strip
# [15:05] <Ms2ger> avih, qimport all the patches in |hg out|, hg qpo -a && hg pull -u
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# [15:06] <RyanVM> avih: If you just want them all gone without qimporting, hg strip --no-backup rev1:rev4 && hg update -C
# [15:06] <avih> RyanVM: hg strip requires a revision set, which should i choose?
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# [15:06] <avih> Ms2ger: i don't have all the other 3...
# [15:07] <RyanVM> the revs being what hg out shows
# [15:07] <Ms2ger> avih, pastebin what hg out says
# [15:07] <glandium> avih: hg strip -r outgoing() if you want to remove anything that's not on m-c
# [15:07] <RyanVM> neat :)
# [15:07] <RyanVM> (didn't know that one)
# [15:07] <avih> $ hg strip -r outgoing()
# [15:07] <avih> bash": syntax error near unexpected token `('
# [15:07] <glandium> or on whatever hg pull pulls from
# [15:08] <glandium> avih: "outgoing()"
# [15:08] <avih> ah. now it thinks :)
# [15:08] <avih> a lot...
# [15:09] <avih> really a lot..
# [15:09] <avih> saving backup...
# [15:10] <avih> still not done...
# [15:10] <avih> done :)
# [15:11] <avih> now pull -u takes quite a bit of time...
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# [15:11] <RyanVM> avih: you will probably want to update -C
# [15:11] <RyanVM> then hg status and hg out to make sure all's clean
# [15:11] <avih> even if pull -u succeeded?
# [15:11] <avih> $ hg pull -u
# [15:11] <avih> pulling from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound
# [15:11] <avih> searching for changes
# [15:11] <avih> adding changesets
# [15:11] <avih> adding manifests
# [15:11] <avih> adding file changes
# [15:11] <RyanVM> yes
# [15:11] <avih> added 1 changesets with 7 changes to 7 files
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# [15:11] <RyanVM> hah
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# [15:12] <RyanVM> FAIL
# [15:12] <avih> yeah
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# [15:13] <RyanVM> avih++ :)
# [15:14] <avih> :)
# [15:14] <avih> sorry, had to push really quickly to not miss the train again :p
# [15:14] <ttaubert> whee
# [15:14] <avih> thanks :)
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# [15:16] <avih> RyanVM: so next time it happens, before updating, i should just hg qimport -r tip; hg qpup, hg pull -u; qpush; qfin; push ?
# [15:16] <avih> qpop*
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# [15:17] <RyanVM> yes
# [15:17] <Ms2ger> qpuppy?
# [15:17] <avih> what's wrong with puppy??
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# [15:19] <avih> glandium: always with the right answer ;) thanks
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# [15:38] <Yoric> Is there a better way to see backtraces in case of crash than |./mach buildsymbols|?
# [15:38] <Yoric> That takes ages.
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# [15:38] <Ms2ger> gdb?
# [15:39] <avih> btw, firefox sync if failing for me in the past 48h or so without even one successful sync. #sync can't help much about it.. this will surely create a major trust issue with users...
# [15:39] <avih> s/if/is/
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# [15:40] <kats> sync was failing for me for last two weeks. i finally just deleted my sync account. i didn't use it anyway
# [15:40] <avih> and setting up a "private" sync server isn't a walk in the park either.
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# [15:42] <avih> well.. i need it.. i have two main systems, and i need them in sync...
# [15:44] <glandium> edmorley, RyanVM|brb: is there an inbound merge planned soon?
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# [15:44] <edmorley> glandium: when 00119553c9d8 or later is pgo green (merge conflicts earlier)
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# [15:46] <glandium> edmorley: that'd be the one you'd merge?
# [15:46] <edmorley> glandium: at the earliest, yeah
# [15:47] <glandium> edmorley: ok, thanks
# [15:47] <edmorley> the later 75407626ba46 has a pgo run going too, may be done about the same time
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# [15:50] <yzen> Yoric: ping
# [15:50] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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# [15:51] <yzen> Yoric: just a couple of questions about the readahead if you have a moment
# [15:51] <Yoric> Go ahead (ha).
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# [15:53] <yzen> Yoric: so the osfile_shared_front.jsm , that stuff is called from a worker thread right, hence no need to clone?
# [15:53] <sheppy> what the frak?
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# [15:53] <sheppy> Firefox, in the background, just abruptly decided to go full screen on me.
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# [15:54] <Yoric> yzen: Heah.
# [15:55] <yzen> Yoric: ok, and another one is related to me adding an offset option if there's a readahead option for _read, you mentioned it sounds fishy
# [15:55] <Yoric> Do you think it makes sense to readahead a subset of a file ?
# [15:55] <Yoric> Actually, it might do.
# [15:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/032888440564 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 797615 - Cosmetic cleanup for the getDisplayPort JNI wrapper. r=Cwiiis
# [15:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a63313a54e7 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 797615 - Guard against isBrowserContentDocumentDisplayed returning true prematurely. r=Cwiiis
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# [15:58] <yzen> Yoric: well offset and byte count seem to be the only 2 things that matter for that operation + readTo itself might do more than 1 io operation so it might be relevant, no?
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# [16:02] <Yoric> yzen: I believe that, for a v1, we should do without offset.
# [16:02] <Yoric> Let's just offer whole file readahead.
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# [16:02] <Yoric> If we need more, we'll add it in a followup bug.
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# [16:02] <yzen> Yoric: so basically starting with 0 ?
# [16:03] <Yoric> Only offer the option in |File.read|, and yes, starting with 0.
# [16:03] <yzen> Yoric: thanks
# [16:03] <Yoric> Thank you.
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# [16:04] <@ehsan> baku: ping
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# [16:04] <baku> ehsan, pong
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# [16:05] <@ehsan> baku: hey, I was looking at your patch
# [16:05] <@ehsan> it puzzles me
# [16:05] <baku> ehsan, can we talk in 20mins... I'm in a 1:1
# [16:05] <@ehsan> so, firstly, don't we null check pmService once?
# [16:05] <@ehsan> baku: sure :)
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# [16:13] <yzen> Yoric: sorry so to clarify we want the whole file, not the nbytes from the beginning?
# [16:13] <Yoric> For v1, yes.
# [16:13] <yzen> ok
# [16:13] <@ehsan> padenot: ping
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# [16:14] <padenot> ehsan: pong
# [16:14] <@ehsan> padenot: about maxChannelCount, why are you returning WebAudioUtils::MaxChannelCount for offline contexts?
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# [16:16] * ted wonders if this internal compiler error in b2g emulator builds is filed
# [16:16] <padenot> ehsan: because that's what aggreed upon on the list
# [16:17] <padenot> ehsan: returning the max value that will not throw
# [16:17] <@ehsan> padenot: I thought we agreed to return the number of channels requested when creating the context?
# [16:17] * @ehsan checks again
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# [16:17] <padenot> actually, re-reading, I'm not sure we agreed on something
# [16:18] <tbsaunde> ted: I certainly haven't heard about it, but I wonder how much we can do about it given the antique toolchain b2g uses or does it always happen?
# [16:18] <@ehsan> padenot: ok, so for OfflineAudioContext, the author passes in the number of channels to the constructor
# [16:18] <@ehsan> right?
# [16:18] <padenot> yes
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# [16:18] <@ehsan> I don't see why we should return anything higher than that
# [16:18] <padenot> ha
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# [16:18] <dcamp> Yoric: pong
# [16:19] <@ehsan> padenot: actually I thought you're arguing for this on the list too :)
# [16:19] <@ehsan> so perhaps I'm entirely mistaken
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# [16:19] <Yoric> dcamp: I am trying to familiarize myself with NS_ProxyRelease, could you answer a few questions?
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# [16:20] <ted> tbsaunde: i'd guess it's intermittent, since it's failing in stdio.h via some zlib code
# [16:20] <ted> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23591452&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [16:20] <dcamp> Yoric: probably not!
# [16:20] <padenot> ehsan: actually, my proposal is weird, now that I think again about it
# [16:20] <Yoric> dcamp: Ah, well, you had some code in that file, so I hoped you could.
# [16:20] <dcamp> Yoric: I'd be willing to, but I don't know it that well :)
# [16:20] <Yoric> :)
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# [16:20] <@ehsan> padenot: well, ok, so it is the spec that is weird!
# [16:20] <dcamp> Yoric: that surprises me
# [16:20] <Yoric> We seem to have a mass of dark matter around the core of xpcom.
# [16:20] <padenot> ehsan: because you can only get the max channel count once you have a context, but you have to pass a channel count when creating the context
# [16:20] <@ehsan> padenot: now that I read it again it's talking about maxChannelCount being the maximum number that channelCount can be set to!
# [16:21] <padenot> right
# [16:21] <Yoric> Somewhat commented, undocumented, not too easy to get into.
# [16:21] <@ehsan> right
# [16:21] <@ehsan> padenot: ok this doesn't make any sense, the spec is clearly wrong!
# [16:21] <padenot> it works, but you'll have to create a dummy context, which is terrible
# [16:21] <@ehsan> padenot: well the problem is deeper than that
# [16:22] <@ehsan> padenot: maxChannelCount *should not* be used as the maximum value that channelCount can be set to, that makes no sense
# [16:22] <padenot> why is that?
# [16:22] <@ehsan> padenot: you can use ChannelMergerNode to convert input with higher channel counts to the "proper" channel count if you want
# [16:22] <@ehsan> and there's this whole section on down-mixing rules
# [16:22] <@ehsan> so there is no reason at all for that restriction
# [16:22] <Yoric> dcamp: Well, it is an old patch :) http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f212da74389a
# [16:23] <@ehsan> padenot: and everything we've discussed so far is about maxChannelCount representing what the audio hardware supports
# [16:23] <dcamp> oh hey, look at that.
# [16:23] <@ehsan> padenot: with *that* definition, maxChannelCount for an offline context should be the thing that you pass to the ctor
# [16:24] <jesup> Yoric: I've used NS_ProxyRelease, IIRC
# [16:24] <Yoric> Ahaha.
# [16:24] <padenot> ehsan: how would you get the maximum channel count that will not throw when getting an offline context, then?
# [16:25] <Yoric> jesup: Reading the code, I have the impression that it will work nicely on a nsCOMPtr<> and that it will effectively release one reference to the object. Is that correct?
# [16:25] <Yoric> Or do I need to do some forget() or swap() magic before calling it?
# [16:25] <@ehsan> padenot: you don't. the spec says that the implementation must support at least 32 channels
# [16:26] <@ehsan> padenot: well, actually it says that everywhere there is a channel count coming from the content *except* for AudioNode.channelCount
# [16:26] <@ehsan> what a mess :(
# [16:27] <padenot> we should spec the maximum number of channel of an offline audio context, as crogers proposes
# [16:27] <Gijs> Where does our implementation for the XUL "context" attribute live?
# [16:27] <tbsaunde> Yoric: I can't see why you'd need to use forget or swap
# [16:28] <@ehsan> padenot: this is what crogers said: "I think since the .channelCount is determined when the OfflineAudioContext is constructed that it's fine to not allow changing this value afterwards. It doesn't in any real sense limit the possibilities of what can be achieved."
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# [16:29] <jesup> Yoric: it appears you typically have to forget/etc into a raw ptr - see WebSocketChannel.cpp (and lots of other instances findable with "cfind NS_ProxyRelease")
# [16:30] <@ehsan> padenot`local: hey, let me write to the list... I'm actually not sure what crogers suggests :)
# [16:30] <padenot`local> ehsan: ok
# [16:30] <@ehsan> padenot`local: but regardless, I think we should implement maxChannelCount to return the channel count passed to the ctor for offline audio context
# [16:30] <@ehsan> padenot`local: anything else would be insane :)
# [16:30] <jesup> cfind == find-all-.cpp/c/mm-files | xargs grep roughly
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# [16:31] <padenot`local> ehsan: wfm, as long as it's clear in the spec :-)
# [16:31] <tbsaunde> jesup: there are overloads at tthe top of nsProxyRelease.h that deal with that for you
# [16:31] <Yoric> tbsaunde: Well, I'm attempting to track a segfault which is probably related to my use of NS_ProxyRelease. I'm pulling at straws. And, as jesup remarks, many uses of NS_ProxyRelease do call forget/swap.
# [16:31] <ted> *sigh*
# [16:31] <ted> every so often something happens to my windows machine and firefox gets very laggy
# [16:32] <ted> all the profiles are just the cache hanging
# [16:32] <jesup> tbsaunde: aha -- well, I didn't see anyone using the overloads, though I only checked about 6 or so files that use it
# [16:32] <Yoric> However, looking at http://dxr.allizom.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsProxyRelease.h#l27, I have the impression that calling NS_ProxyRelease with a nsCOMPtr will do that for me.
# [16:32] <tbsaunde> Yoric: sure, but it looks to me ike that's probably just old code that needs cleaned up
# [16:32] <Yoric> That was my intution.
# [16:32] <Yoric> I just wanted to be sure.
# [16:32] <jesup> ted: NTFS on a cleanup/rebalance jihad?
# [16:32] <ted> jesup: maybe, i have no idea how i'd figure that out
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# [16:33] <jesup> tbsaunde: WebSockets shouldn't be that old..... ;-)
# [16:33] <jesup> ted: nor I
# [16:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f71e27bab63 - Joe Drew - Bug 876332 - Set currentAnimationFrameTime correctly based on the current frame's timeout (not the next frame's timeout). r=jrmuizel
# [16:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/346c68a47194 - Joe Drew - Bug 876355 - We must report telemetry *before* shutting down the decoder! r=jrmuizel
# [16:33] <jesup> You could watch Sysinternals and watch page swaps and disk IO
# [16:34] <Yoric> jesup: tbsaunde: Thanks.
# [16:34] <Yoric> In the meantime, gdb seems to indicate that something is fishy around my use of NS_ProxyRelease.
# [16:34] <Yoric> Triple-checking.
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# [16:36] <@ehsan> padenot`local: man did I manage to confuse myself
# [16:36] <tbsaunde> jesup: maybe just continueing bad habits then
# [16:37] <Ms2ger> ehsan, for once
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# [16:37] <@ehsan> padenot`local: I think there's actually no problem, maxChannelCount is the ceiling value for AudioDestinationNode.channelCount, not AudioNode.channelCount
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# [16:37] <@ehsan> padenot`local: I think the spec is fine, if you make the other changes as discussed
# [16:37] <tbsaunde> jesup: might be worth renaming the one that takes nsISupports* and seeing how many can be converted to the other overloads...
# [16:37] <Ms2ger> Every time I see someone refer to roc as Rob, I think it's a typo
# [16:38] <tbsaunde> on the other hand taking a refptr& and changing its value is pretty gross
# [16:38] <baku> ehsan, back
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# [16:38] <baku> ehsan, sure! you right. half of that patch doesn't make sense :)
# [16:38] <@ehsan> baku: commented on the bug... I was just confused by the patch, no big deal :)
# [16:39] <@ehsan> baku: also, why does do_CreateInstance return null there?
# [16:39] <baku> ehsan, that's a good question. But there it crashes. Maybe the timer cannot be created during the shutdown?
# [16:40] <baku> ehsan, it seems that in many other points we check that return value.
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# [16:40] <@ehsan> baku: yeah... I was just curious to see if you know why that happens
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# [16:47] <padenot`local> c/lose
# [16:47] <froydnj> jesup: do you have any eta on a response/action in bug 820972?
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# [16:47] <jesup> looking
# [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8323f6dbe1a1 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 876429 - Implement JSOP_SETCALL in the baseline compiler. r=bhackett
# [16:48] <baku> ehsan, can you review that patch?
# [16:48] <@ehsan> sure
# [16:48] <@ehsan> baku: what was the bug# again?
# [16:48] <baku> ehsan, 877638
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# [16:49] <baku> ehsan, tnx
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# [16:50] <bsmedberg_> johns: can you quickly check http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/interdiff/interdiff.php?patch1url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.mozilla.org%2Fattachment.cgi%3Fid%3D753425&patch2url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.mozilla.org%2Fattachment.cgi%3Fid%3D755945 to make sure the comments are what you wanted?
# [16:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7aa62774568 - Josh Matthews - Bug 873615 - Make certificate verification avoid addrefing JS-wrapped listeners off the main thread. r=bsmith
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# [16:51] <bsmedberg_> jdm: do you want me to fix mounir's nits before you review bug 874197?
# [16:52] <jdm> bsmedberg_: oops, I got distracted while reviewing it
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# [16:52] <jdm> no need, I'll give feedback with his in mid
# [16:52] <jdm> *mind
# [16:55] <jesup> froydnj: I don't think anyone filed an upsteam bug on it. Let me check. We don't use the feature (and as you note it wouldn't do anything with the current expansion....)
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# [16:57] <aleth> Is there an existing (ideally JS) function that can be used to detect word boundaries in unicode strings? (i.e. using http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/#Word_Boundaries)
# [16:57] <avih> bz: what do you think of this "cliff" talos scroll test?
# [16:57] <bz> avih: think in what sense?
# [16:57] <aleth> I have found https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/intl/icu/source/i18n/rematch.cpp#2603 which looks promising, but I have no idea where/how that is used.
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# [16:58] <avih> bz: in the sense that cliff is not optimal for regression tests
# [16:58] <bz> avih: changing to a new baseline is not a problem
# [16:58] <bz> avih: as long as it's clearly communicated that this is what's going on....
# [16:58] <bsmedberg_> it's a little creepy that git-bz can pull my bugzilla cookie out automatically
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# [16:59] <avih> bz: yeah, must have missed those emails, i'll reply. but was talking about tscroll, where the scrolling "normally" with rAF can't really detect regressions until we fall off that cliff. i'm not enthusiastic about cliff regression tests.
# [17:00] <froydnj> bsmedberg_: but very convenient!
# [17:00] <bz> avih: fall off which cliff?
# [17:00] <glandium> bsmedberg_: from the firefox profile?
# [17:00] <bz> avih: as in, blow the frame budget?
# [17:00] <tbsaunde> glandium: that's how it did it last time I checked
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# [17:00] <avih> bz: 16.67ms/iteration. yes.
# [17:00] <bsmedberg_> glandium: yes
# [17:00] <bz> avih: I agree that's not great
# [17:00] <glandium> bsmedberg_: i think bzexport does that too
# [17:00] <bz> avih: The test had this problem all along, right?
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# [17:01] <bsmedberg_> I feel violated ;-) But really why can't it just have a username and password and optionally store them?
# [17:01] <bsmedberg_> use the XMLRPC or REST API...
# [17:01] <avih> bz: it did. and i'm already modifying tsvg as well, which had similar, but much worse issue (200ms iterations, few ms rendering). and there i modified the refresh rate to 10k.
# [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c234d35fb5c - Paul Adenot - Bug 876732 - Add a way to pass debugger args when using `mach mochitest`. r=ted
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# [17:03] <bz> avih: Well, obviously if we can find a non-cliff test that would be nice.. ;)
# [17:03] <avih> bz: but the thing is, we should measure scroll under normal conditions (16.67 cliff), but i think we should add a duplicate of all the tsctoll tests with as-fast-as-possible refresh as well, which would actually detect regressions.
# [17:04] <avih> bz: that's easy, just run tscroll with layout.refresh_rate=10000 :)
# [17:04] <reuben> bsmedberg_: I personally thing that's safer/more convenient than having to worry about secure storage of credentials in those scripts
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# [17:05] <reuben> s/thing/think/
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# [17:07] <avih> (zimbra...)
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# [17:17] <reyre> where should tests live for new DOM elements?
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# [17:17] <ted> reyre: dom/tests/mochitest?
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# [17:20] <RyanVM> gfritzsche: it doesn't fit
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# [17:20] <RyanVM> I tried
# [17:20] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: you can't get matches to 874437 by adjusting the title?
# [17:20] <gfritzsche> hm, damn :(
# [17:21] <RyanVM> not my first rodeo...
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# [17:22] <@ehsan> padenot: are you on the security group
# [17:22] <@ehsan> ?
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# [17:23] <reyre> ted: do tests go in there regardless of where the DOM source files lives? we have some files that live in content/html/content/src and content/media.
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# [17:24] <BenWa> philor: I'm going to reland following your backout: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844288#c55, per comment 57
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# [17:24] <philor> BenWa: have fun!
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# [17:24] <BenWa> ok cool
# [17:24] <padenot> ehsan: I am not
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# [17:24] <philor> particularly nice that we have absolutely no idea whether or not it's currently failing, nor will we know whether or not it's failing after you reland
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# [17:26] <Gijs> So if I'm somewhere down in content/src and I want to hook on when removeAttribute is called on a XUL element, are there hooks for that?
# [17:26] <BenWa> philor: Well the problem went away when bug 790765 was backed out and cloberred
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# [17:26] <Gijs> I noticed afterSetAttr and friends, but I didn't see an equivalent for remove attribute - did I miss something?
# [17:26] <glandium> waw, the webaudio code is using std::complex
# [17:26] <BenWa> philor: I've pushed my patch several time to try which forces a clobber and I've never seen this postflight failure
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# [17:27] <ted> BenWa: i think the point is that it only fails in a *dep* build
# [17:27] <ted> but i also think it's probably that mozbase bug and not yours
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# [17:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/533aeba067b9 - David Chan - Bug 815105 - WebAPI permissions tests. r=baku
# [17:27] <philor> yeah, absolutely impossible to get any useful information from try
# [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/193beaecc378 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 877638 - Crash in WakeLockBoolWrapper::UpdateWakeLock when running crashtests. r=ehsan
# [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54460bb48e05 - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 874435 - Assume lower file system time precision. r=froydnj
# [17:27] <BenWa> ted: What's a 'dep' build?
# [17:27] <philor> also impossible to look at tbpl and know whether or not we are failing
# [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2aa8aefdbe90 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 874171 - Upgrade SQLite to version 3.7.17 (Mozilla changes). r=mak
# [17:27] <tbsaunde> glandium: does that have exception issues or something
# [17:27] <ted> BenWa: opposite of a clobber, has an existing objdir
# [17:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1879a11685d1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 874171 - Upgrade SQLite to version 3.7.17 (SQLite changes). r=mak
# [17:27] <philor> since we have clobbers that admit they are, and clobbers which lie and do not admit they are
# [17:27] <philor> so if we have run zero non-clobbers since last night, we would not know it
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# [17:28] <BenWa> ted: Ohh ok, is it worth while doing more testing locally?
# [17:28] <ted> those damn unknown unknowns
# [17:28] <ted> BenWa: i strongly believe it was that mozbase patch
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# [17:29] <BenWa> Alright I wont nag you anymore. Sounds like relanding is not reckless
# [17:29] <ted> given the failure mode (only failing on dep), finding the actual regressor was probably really hard
# [17:29] <ted> if you wanted to do a local universal build for sanity that'd definitely rule you out
# [17:29] <ted> do a local universal build and then a second, i guess
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# [18:55] <Mook_as> question about nsIPrivateBrowsingChannel::setPrivate(): the IDL claims that will fail if either the loadGroup or the notification callbacks implement nsILoadContext; but http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/src/PrivateBrowsingChannel.h#30 seems to die if the loadgroup exists at all? (and asserts that)
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# [19:00] <@bz> Mook_as: hmm?
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# [19:01] <jdm> yes, that sounds vaguely familiar
# [19:02] <gaston> BenWa: re 844288, what do you mean by 'incorrectly whitelisting' ? what part of the if block should i change ?
# [19:02] <Mook_as> bz: Trying to play with private browsing channels; created a XHR from the contract id, and manually attached a (newly-createInstanced, since I could think of no better option) load group. So I have nothing I can think of that would implement a nsILoadContext...
# [19:02] <gaston> i take it that tier1 platforms have rtti, and not the others ?
# [19:03] <jlebar|afk> gaston: I don't believe we have C++ rtti enabled on any platforms.
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# [19:03] <Mook_as> bz: the IDL hints that I shouldn't call setPrivate() if the channel has a reasonable load context; but it actually asserts / fails if the load group exists (regardless of whether that can find a load context).
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# [19:03] <BenWa> gaston: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#6399
# [19:03] <gaston> jlebar|afk: i'm trying to understand the HAVE_RTTI block in configure.in
# [19:04] <gaston> BenWa: yeah, i'm on that line, but i dont understand why you say "incorrectly whitelist"
# [19:04] <Mook_as> (the idl being http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/base/public/nsIPrivateBrowsingChannel.idl?mark=26-29#17 of course)
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# [19:04] <gaston> should it be HAVE_RTTI=0 for everyone ?
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# [19:04] <jdm> Mook_as: you could try doing it the other way around - set th eprivate bit, then add the loadgroup
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# [19:05] <@bz> Mook_as: mmm
# [19:05] <gaston> (ie not only tier1 archs)
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# [19:06] <Mook_as> jdm: hrm. yeah; I was wondering if I could create a load context somehow, but that seems to be mostly related to docshells which I am unlikely to have. (and I don't think trying to implement it in JS is going to make things happy, given the inline C++ method in nsILoadContext.idl...)
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# [19:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db53707fb4d7 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 876098. Make sure to not skip calling addProperty hooks when objects have them. Otherwise DOM expandos can go AWOL. r=djvj
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# [19:07] <jdm> yeah, creating a loadcontext is a non-solution here
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# [19:08] <gaston> BenWa: wouldnt it be better to put the 3 GTEST_HAS_RTTI lines outside of the if block ?
# [19:09] <tbsaunde> gaston: I can't see why we'd ever have rtti on by default
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# [19:09] <gaston> it's on by default on non tier1 platforms apparently
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# [19:09] <gaston> since it's only set to 0 on tier1 plats
# [19:10] <gaston> so the #define ends up being set by gtest itself
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# [19:11] <jdm> Mook_as: definitely file a bug about this; I don't see any reason why we shouldn't allow a loadgroup that doesn't provide nsILoadContext
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# [19:13] <tbsaunde> froydnj: ping
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# [19:14] <tbsaunde> froydnj: didn't you want to talk about how we build gcc last week?
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# [19:15] <BenWa> gaston: Yes. I think we will need a follow up
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# [19:15] <BenWa> gaston: Just waiting on a few 'dep' build to confirm my patch should still before landing more on top of it
# [19:15] <BenWa> stay*
# [19:15] <froydnj> tbsaunde: sure
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# [19:15] <gaston> oki :) at least i have a local workaround in the meantime
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# [19:16] <BenWa> gaston: can you file a follow up bug and let me know if it fixes it
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# [19:16] <tbsaunde> froydnj: so what's up? I think you were the oirginal pinger :)
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# [19:17] <johns> bsmedberg: Yeah, that looks fine
# [19:17] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I was wondering about the motivation for moving to a very small shell script instead of build_gcc.py
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# [19:17] <gaston> BenWa: i can file anything, but in which direction ? add every known plat to the if ? move the HAVE_RTTI=0 outside of the if ?
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# [19:18] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I don't really care much about python vs sh, but currently build_gcc.py is just a bunch of lies
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# [19:18] <tbsaunde> froydnj: and we should fix that
# [19:18] <BenWa> gaston: move outside
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# [19:19] <BenWa> gaston: We used to whitelist gtest but now it's supported on all tier 1 platform so ideally other platform will either land fixes they need to blacklist
# [19:19] <BenWa> or blacklist*
# [19:19] <froydnj> tbsaunde: which parts are the lies? there are a couple inaccuracies, and the code could certainly stand to be cleaned up...
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# [19:20] <tbsaunde> froydnj: its been a while since I've even looked at it
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# [19:22] <tbsaunde> froydnj: we actually built the current gcc with http://hg.mozilla.org/build/rpm-sources/file/d5aafe2f63d4/gcc47/centos6-x86_64/gcc47.spec
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# [19:23] <tbsaunde> froydnj: that I know of differences include we don't build make, we don't build gcc with disable multilib, we don't apply those patches
# [19:23] <froydnj> bleh
# [19:24] <tbsaunde> froydnj: at what exactly?
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# [19:25] <tbsaunde> froydnj: that hg repo has the spec files to build the gcc 4.5's we used, and those don't match build_gcc.py either they had multilib enabled
# [19:27] <@smaug> whaat, is try broken?
# [19:27] <froydnj> tbsaunde: hm. and we use the rpm builds because we don't use tooltool for gcc?
# [19:27] <jwir3> smaug: yeah, I think so
# [19:27] <@smaug> remote: Pushlog database is locked. Please retry your push.
# [19:27] <jwir3> smaug: Yep, I'm seeing the ssame thing
# [19:27] <jwir3> smaug: I just asked in #it
# [19:27] <@smaug> k
# [19:28] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, we haven't used tooltol for gcc for linux yet
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# [19:30] <tbsaunde> froydnj: that said the reason fiddling with how we build gcc came up was so we could use tooltool for it
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# [19:30] <froydnj> tbsaunde: what's the impediment to using tooltool? that we don't have a nice build process besides rpm .spec files?
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# [19:31] <tbsaunde> froydnj: enertia, and we need to build libstdc++ for clang builds re the too things I know of
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# [19:32] <Six> Ms2ger: i filed bug 877746 about MOZ_OVERRIDE in /dom
# [19:32] <Ms2ger> Six, thanks :)
# [19:32] <jimm> ok that was weird
# [19:32] <Six> Ms2ger: patch will be ready in the hour
# [19:32] <Ms2ger> \o/
# [19:32] <jimm> remote: Trying to insert into pushlog.
# [19:32] <jimm> remote: Please do not interrupt...
# [19:32] <jimm> remote: Pushlog database is locked. Please retry your push.
# [19:32] <jimm> remote: warning: changegroup.z_loghistory hook failed
# [19:33] <jimm> yet, it seems to have landed anyway?
# [19:33] <Six> Ms2ger: are you the right person for this patch review?
# [19:33] <@smaug> scroll up a bit
# [19:33] <ted> jimm: eek
# [19:33] <@smaug> jimm: jwir3 asked #it
# [19:33] <ted> where'd you push to?
# [19:33] <jimm> mi
# [19:33] <ted> uh, that seems bad
# [19:33] <@smaug> oh, mi too
# [19:33] <Ms2ger> ted, do we want to close everything, then?
# [19:33] <jwir3> smaug,jimm: ugh, ok. I didn't realize it was trees other than try
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# [19:34] <ted> Ms2ger: yeah, uh, probably
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# [19:35] <ted> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?changeset=7dbcdd81bd1c
# [19:35] <ted> that's bad
# [19:35] <ted> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7dbcdd81bd1c
# [19:35] <Ms2ger> Done
# [19:35] <jimm> ted: how come?
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# [19:36] <ted> jimm: your push is not in the pushlog
# [19:36] <jimm> oh heh
# [19:36] <ted> but it is in the repo
# [19:36] <jimm> ok
# [19:36] <jimm> thought you didn't like the actual patch
# [19:36] <ted> no, i didn't even look at it :)
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# [19:36] <ted> this isn't your fault
# [19:37] <ted> but i also don't understand how this failure mode happens
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# [19:37] <jimm> shows up on tbpl, and hg.mozilla.org
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# [19:38] <bkero> We deployed an update to pushlog today.
# [19:38] <jimm> oy, red in inbound
# [19:38] <ted> bkero: we've seen this failure mode before though
# [19:39] <bkero> ted: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2462543
# [19:39] <ted> where somehow the hook fails but the changeset slips in anyway
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# [19:39] <ted> bkero: ugh
# [19:39] <RyanVM> weird that my push to try went through w/o issue
# [19:39] <Ms2ger> Six, I want to say no, but I guess I probably am
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# [19:40] <ted> bkero: we should ask the hg devs, but we should also probably just get our goddamned hg updated
# [19:40] <bkero> ted: that's happening this weekend
# [19:40] <ted> yeah
# [19:40] <ted> i am excite
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# [19:40] <bkero> I modified the pushlog hook to actually show some info when sqlite3.operationalerror is thrown, and it said 'disk I/O error'
# [19:41] <ted> i don't know what that means :-/
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# [19:41] <ted> the pushlog hook failing doesn't worry me as much
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# [19:41] <tbsaunde> froydnj: so more or less the end state I want to end up with is a script in m-c we use to build gcc and then use tooltool, my guess is the best way to do that is to forget cleaning up build_gcc.py and just replace it, and that the best thing to replace it with is just cut and paste of the useful bits of the rpm spec file into a shell script, but I'm not paritcularly set on that approach
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# [19:41] <ted> as the fact that somehow it still allows the changeset in
# [19:41] <bkero> ted: that's what's closing the trees right now though
# [19:41] <ted> ah
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# [19:42] <jimm> oh I mixed up my previous push, you're right, tbpl isn't displaying right
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# [19:42] <ted> maybe we need to revert gps' patch?
# [19:42] <ted> jimm: stop pushing lots of separate things :-P
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# [19:43] <jimm> I try to group, but my reviewers never seem to be in sync.
# [19:43] * bkero backs stuff out. We might have to do something bad with try.
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# [19:44] <mmc> hi ryanvm
# [19:44] <RyanVM> mmc: hi
# [19:44] <mmc> what's the criteria for closing a flaky test bug?
# [19:44] <mmc> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857427
# [19:44] <RyanVM> mcc: the test not being flaky anymore? :P
# [19:45] <Six> Ms2ger: ok i understand ;)
# [19:45] <mmc> well, it hasn't flaked in 10 days, down from multiple times a day
# [19:45] <froydnj> tbsaunde: seems like a reasonable goal. I think the build_gcc.py script is a little better starting point just because it tries to control things like binutils versions and glibc versions to make sure we're not thrown for problems by what the systems we're building with have
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# [19:45] <bkero> RyanVM, ted, Callek, hwine-ooo: Okay, I've backed out the pushlog update.
# [19:46] <RyanVM> mmc: we don't have a hard and fast rule, but we usually wait at least a month w/o occurrences before closing
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# [19:46] <mmc> thanks ryanvm
# [19:46] <mmc> i will cross my fingers then :)
# [19:46] <bkero> I think our crime might have been using sqlite on nfs.
# [19:46] <dholbert> bz, ping
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# [19:49] <ted> bkero: indeed
# [19:49] <tbsaunde> froydnj: that's a fair point, though using a glibc other than the system one would be a bit of a change from what we do today. I think we may have our own rpm for binutils two, but I'm not sure about if we actually use that
# [19:49] <ted> bkero: so fox2mike tells me that the hg-on-local-disk thing is blocked by the pushlog-on-mysql thing
# [19:49] <bkero> ted: correct
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# [19:49] <ted> i don't think anyone ever expressed that to me
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# [19:49] <bkero> :/ communication problems
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# [19:50] <bkero> and a quarterly goal for my team for the entire time my team existed
# [19:50] <ted> hah!
# [19:50] <bkero> (it doesn't exist anymore, don't worry)
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# [19:50] <ted> so uh, what was the plan for moving hg to local disk? how do you keep things in sync for the failover?
# [19:51] <tbsaunde> froydnj: that's to say we shouldn't change that stuff to make it more sane, I just wasn't thinking about trying to solve that problem
# [19:51] <Ms2ger> bkero, because it failed to meet its quarterly goals every time? :)
# [19:51] <ted> (or, i guess, how do you mirror over to the webheads)
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# [19:51] <bkero> ted: One plan was to keep nfs for the hgssh hosts (the ones doing writing), and only use local disks for the serving (the webheads)
# [19:51] <bkero> Another was drbd
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# [19:52] <bkero> or csync
# [19:52] <ted> hrm
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# [19:52] <ted> in any event, we suspect the main reason sqlite sucks here is because of NFS
# [19:53] <ted> but since getting rid of NFS makes using sqlite hard, we should probably just do the mysql thing
# [19:53] * bkero suggests redirecting the effort of making sqlite preform better to making mysql happen.
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# [19:54] <ted> that's probably fair
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# [19:55] <bkero> Ms2ger: Okay, we need to see if there were any commits that made it in without getting into pushlog
# [19:56] <Ms2ger> bkero, according to scrollback, yes
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# [19:56] <bkero> Ms2ger: IT doesn't have a way to synthesize pushlog entries
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# [19:56] <Ms2ger> So we strip instead?
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# [19:57] <bkero> We could strip...stripping kills puppies though.
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# [19:57] <ted> that is probably the only way to fix it
# [19:57] <Ms2ger> Well
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# [19:57] <Ms2ger> If you pull from inbound now
# [19:57] <Ms2ger> strip
# [19:57] <Ms2ger> And then repush
# [19:57] <bkero> ted: One thing that the hg devs told me was that in-process hooks are no longer supported, they're bad crack. We should be using out-of-process hooks.
# [19:57] <Ms2ger> Do we get less sad puppies?
# [19:57] <ted> bkero: huh!
# [19:58] <ted> i never got that memo
# [19:58] <bkero> ted: It's on their wiki
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# [19:58] <bkero> I plan on rewriting the hooks (not much rewriting involved actually) to do it. That way they can have things like rturn codes which will reject commits
# [19:59] <bkero> Ms2ger: Nah, it's much hairier than that. hg's internal datastructure is an append-only log. History cannot be rewritten.
# [19:59] <ted> aren't they already supposed to support that?
# [19:59] <philor> are we stripping try, which will break it and then we'll kill it and replace it with a fresh clone of m-c, or are we stripping something where we'll be really seriously sorry we did?
# [19:59] <Six> Ms2ger: i found only 230 MOZ_OVERRIDE to add in /dom... does it looks correct?
# [19:59] <Ms2ger> philor, m-i
# [19:59] <bkero> philor: Need callek/hwine around to figure that out
# [19:59] <ted> we ostensibly reject commits from the treeclosure hook
# [20:00] <Ms2ger> Six, hmm, there are probably more in content/, which is sorta-dom
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# [20:00] <fox2mike> sup philor
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# [20:00] <bkero> fox2mike: pushlog script upgrade made pushlog entries fail but pushes go in
# [20:00] <Six> Ms2ger: content has already been patched with 1700 moz_override
# [20:00] <philor> don't do it, don't strip m-i, do something else, you'll be very very sorry for hours longer if you strip
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# [20:00] <Ms2ger> Six, nice
# [20:00] <bkero> fox2mike: on mozilla-inbound and try (at least)
# [20:00] <fox2mike> okay
# [20:00] <fox2mike> I want to do things to pushlog
# [20:01] <fox2mike> but that's for another discussion
# [20:01] <fox2mike> what's the damage?
# [20:01] <ted> heh
# [20:01] <fox2mike> how can we rollback?
# [20:01] <bkero> fox2mike: commits in mozilla-inbound and try but not in pushlog. We could strip or restore from hourly backup.
# [20:01] <fox2mike> can we restore please?
# [20:01] <Six> Ms2ger: i try a local build before adding the patch to the bug to be sure it's safe
# [20:01] <fox2mike> I don't want to strip
# [20:01] <ted> oh, so
# [20:01] <bkero> I don't want to strip either
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# [20:01] <fox2mike> strip is like violating the repo.
# [20:01] <ted> hah
# [20:01] <fox2mike> I don't violate repos
# [20:02] <ted> bkero: i see, we're using a changegroup hook, which doesn't get to veto changesets
# [20:02] <fox2mike> pushlog already violates hg enough :p
# [20:02] <ted> yeah, okay, i can see how that can fail
# [20:02] <ted> horrible
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# [20:02] <fox2mike> ted: I agree. HORRIBLE :p
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# [20:02] <ted> fox2mike: wish they just actually stored this data so we didn't have to tack it on :-(
# [20:02] <spohl> do we have a VM image of Ubuntu opt pgo that's run on try?
# [20:02] <spohl> i.e. the one that was used here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=da026f61a0b8
# [20:02] <ted> spohl: it's probably an EC2 AMI
# [20:03] <fox2mike> ted: I should have gotten a pushlog 101 from you when you were here
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# [20:03] <ted> fox2mike: it's not actually that complicated
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# [20:03] <spohl> ted: I'm not sure what that means exactly. are you saying I can't run that locally?
# [20:03] <fox2mike> it's not, but it's all over the place in my head
# [20:03] <bkero> ted: should talk to the developers in #mercurial to see if there's a way it could be calculated cheaply without storing it in a db
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# [20:04] <bkero> fox2mike: I'm restoring mozilla-inbound and try from hourly snapshot.
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# [20:04] <ted> bkero: that would be great, AFAIK hg doesn't store this at all
# [20:04] <bkero> ted: 'this' being?
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# [20:04] <fox2mike> bkero: 10-4. Go for it
# [20:04] <ted> bkero: who actually pushed changesets into the repo and when
# [20:04] <ted> git does, in the reflog
# [20:04] <ted> (but not forever, it GCs it)
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# [20:04] <bkero> ted: Isn't that present in hg log?
# [20:04] <ted> no
# [20:04] <bsmedberg_> no
# [20:04] <ted> hg log is full of lies
# [20:04] <fox2mike> hg--
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# [20:05] <ted> so is git log, it's ok
# [20:05] <fox2mike> bkero: I assume we rolled back the change?
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# [20:05] <bkero> fox2mike: yes
# [20:05] <bsmedberg_> hg log shows who *committed* things and when they were committed
# [20:05] <bsmedberg_> but you can lie about that in the hg log
# [20:05] <bsmedberg_> and it doesn't store at all who pushed them or when
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# [20:05] <ted> pushlog is our "treat DVCS like a non-DVCS" secret sauce
# [20:05] <ted> in that we really do need to know when changesets entered a specific tree and who put them there
# [20:06] <bkero> So the difference here is a person who pushed version a person who committed and when they did it?
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# [20:06] <bsmedberg_> yes
# [20:06] <bsmedberg_> also spoofing-prevention
# [20:06] <bkero> So if you hand me a bunch of commits and I sit on them, make some changes, and commit them to hg.m.o they all end up with my name?
# [20:06] <ted> "sorta"
# [20:06] <bsmedberg_> bkero: in the push log yes, not in the hg log
# [20:06] <ted> commit dates are when you did 'hg commit' or 'hg qfin'
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# [20:07] <ted> the changeset author is something you can set on the hg commandline, -u "whoever"
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# [20:07] <ted> pushlog records the unix username of who pushed the changesets, and exactly when they were pushed
# [20:07] <bkero> We have access to the logging user, can't we ensure that the pushing user is the one specified with -u?
# [20:07] <ted> no, we don't actually want that
# [20:07] <ted> because people push changesets for other people
# [20:07] <ted> they're separate bits of data
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# [20:08] <philor> "why can't we have nice things?"
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# [20:08] <bkero> hwine: tl;dr: updated pushlog script failed, needed to revert, restoring hour-old backups of mozilla-inbound and try.
# [20:08] <bkero> ted: trying to figure out if we can ensure these things programatically instead of having a database
# [20:08] <Gijs> Should ./mach package actually zip up the crt dll into the resulting zip file, on Windows?
# [20:08] <ted> bkero: how is a database not prorgrammatic?
# [20:08] <ted> Gijs: you have to set WIN32_REDIST_DIR
# [20:08] <hwine> bkero: thanks
# [20:08] <Gijs> ted: I did, it's not listening.
# [20:08] <Gijs> ;)
# [20:08] <ted> Gijs: try harder
# [20:09] <ted> so, serious question, what did the CAB process buy us in this case?
# [20:09] <Gijs> ted: seriously, the MDN page says to set that to the VC8 dll, I'm on VS 2012, so I set it to VC11
# [20:09] <ted> we waited around a while, made the change, broke stuff
# [20:09] <bkero> ted: I'd say keeping a database of things would be similar to having a book of multiplication tables and evaluating each expression against your book instead of multiplying things.
# [20:09] <Gijs> ted: but I'm confused because the docs say to use the .dll, but the variable name says _DIR
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# [20:09] <bkero> (in this case the book is being a big pain in the ass)
# [20:10] <Gijs> ted: is it supposed to be the directory or the actual DLL?
# [20:10] <ted> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/win32/mozconfig.vs2010-win64#2
# [20:10] <ted> directory
# [20:10] <Gijs> and unix-style paths, apparently.
# [20:10] * Gijs sighs.
# [20:10] <ted> bkero: well sure, but the data we need isn't recorded anywhere by hg
# [20:10] <ted> so i don't know how else we'd do it
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# [20:10] <ted> i would be happy to have hg developers tell me i'm wrong
# [20:11] <bkero> ted: Have you asked them?
# [20:11] <ted> bkero: i've only ever talked with djc
# [20:11] <ted> he's never indicated that we're doing something blatantly stupid
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# [20:12] <bkero> ted: please talk to mpm in #mercurial in freenode. He would know right away. It would make our lives so much easier.
# [20:12] <bkero> I would do it but I don't think I fully understand yet.
# [20:13] <@ehsan> ted: can you review mach code?
# [20:13] <ted> ehsan: yes
# [20:13] <@ehsan> cool
# [20:13] <fox2mike> ted: we trusted you guys, we won't the next time :D
# [20:13] <fox2mike> ted: the CAB is also learning
# [20:14] <bkero> fox2mike, hwine: mozilla-inbound and try should be restored
# [20:14] <fox2mike> it's not what the process buys you
# [20:14] <ted> hah
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# [20:14] <ted> i dunno, it just felt like overhead this time
# [20:14] <RyanVM> ok, so we're restored to an older inbound rev
# [20:14] <ted> are we planning on using the staging environment as a real staging environment?
# [20:14] <@ehsan> how do you tell if you're on Mac in mach?
# [20:14] <RyanVM> are we going what we did w/ birch yesterday now?
# [20:15] <ted> ehsan: probably sys.platform?
# [20:15] <RyanVM> pushing the csets again from a good repo?
# [20:15] <@ehsan> ted: thanks
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# [20:15] <bkero> RyanVM: If you've got one handy then sure
# [20:15] <RyanVM> i do
# [20:15] <RyanVM> just want to make sure everyone's cool w/ that before
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# [20:16] <RyanVM> actually, my tip is 54d960e4e883
# [20:16] <RyanVM> not 6d7135b9d8ef
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# [20:16] <Pike> coughcough, we can't store pushlog information in hg changesets, as they'd either be futile, or change the hash between what the committer has locally and what's stored upstream
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# [20:17] <RyanVM> anyone have an inbound clone handy that includes 6d7135b9d8ef?
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# [20:17] <ted> Pike: i don't think in-changeset
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# [20:17] <bkero> Pike: are commit messages part of the hash?
# [20:17] <ted> gps suggested using a revlog
# [20:17] <ted> bkero: yes
# [20:17] <fox2mike> ted: so the prevention mechanism here would have been more testing
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# [20:18] <ted> fox2mike: yeah
# [20:18] <fox2mike> I'm not sure the CAB would have prevented that or can ever
# [20:18] <ted> hwine: not sure what that buys us
# [20:18] <fox2mike> but like I said
# [20:18] <ted> fox2mike: i...guess?
# [20:18] <ted> i mean, we don't have a way to reproduce the production environment
# [20:18] <sfink> I have 6d7135b9d8ef
# [20:18] <ted> no developer can give you any guarantees there
# [20:18] <RyanVM> sfink: awesome
# [20:19] <ted> i'm just saying, if the CAB doesn't force us to provide more certainty then it doesn't seem to be doing anything but adding overhead
# [20:19] <hwine> fox2mike: ted we could have forced waiting on staging server at production level -- we're close, but still a big effort
# [20:19] <sfink> I have two after that too
# [20:19] <ted> hwine: right, and i definitely want that
# [20:19] <fox2mike> ted: yeah, we're not blocking at this point :)
# [20:19] <RyanVM> sfink: interesting, 6d7135b9d8ef is the last one pushlog picked up on
# [20:19] <fox2mike> ted: I don't mind blocking you the next time ;)
# [20:19] <ted> but given that we don't have that, what's the point of running this through the CAB?
# [20:19] <ted> fox2mike: if the end result is that we get a hg staging environment, i am totally cool with that
# [20:20] <hwine> ted: it also orders and groups things, so we have one window of change/brokeness
# [20:20] <RyanVM> bkero: so if sfink pushes, things should "Just work" right? pushlog will pick up the 2 csets it didn't previously?
# [20:20] <bkero> ted: we have an hg staging host
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# [20:20] <bkero> RyanVM: I think that's how it worked last time, yes.
# [20:20] <bkero> with birch
# [20:20] <hwine> ted: and, most importantly, makes sure _everyone_ knows what's going on, so diagnosis and recovery time in minimized by having folks around when the change happens
# [20:20] <RyanVM> bkero: last time (yesterday), we were pushing csets that were already there
# [20:21] <RyanVM> ok
# [20:21] <ted> hwine: okay, i can buy that
# [20:21] <ted> doesn't feel like it needs that much overhead, but i can buy it
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# [20:22] <Gijs> ted: so I can't get this to work for the life of me. Should they just end up in the zipfile? I'm using unzip -l | grep .dll, and I don't see any of them.
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# [20:22] <RyanVM> bkero: I'm about to open inbound for sfink to push
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# [20:23] <ted> Gijs: they should wind up in the staging dir and the zip file
# [20:23] <ted> $objdir/dist/firefox
# [20:23] <Gijs> ted: oh, but this needs to be there for ./mach build already, then?
# [20:24] <bkero> RyanVM: okay
# [20:24] <Gijs> so just changing my mozconfig and re-running ./mach package is not enough?
# [20:24] <RyanVM> pushed
# [20:24] <RyanVM> ok, so we lost some data on tbpl (no surprise)
# [20:24] <ted> Gijs: oh right, it happens in build/win32
# [20:24] <ted> hurf
# [20:24] <Gijs> :(
# [20:24] <ted> i...don't know why
# [20:25] <Gijs> OK. But then at least I feel less stupid.
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# [20:25] <bkero> RyanVM: We good?
# [20:25] <Gijs> although I just ran a full rebuild and that'll take 10 minutes on my Windows machine, because... windows, apparently?
# [20:25] <Gijs> But whatever, at least then I can test this on my XP vm...
# [20:25] <ted> Gijs: could have just done ./mach configure; ./mach build build/win32
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# [20:26] <Gijs> ted: yeah, I started it before you told me where it was. :)
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# [20:26] <Gijs> ted: also... I actually just realized; my XP vm is giving me "this is not a valid win32 application"
# [20:26] <Gijs> ted: is that actually to do with the missing dll's or something else?
# [20:26] <RyanVM> bkero: I think so. I kicked off new builds off sfink's push
# [20:26] <Gijs> (building on win7 with VS2012, trying to run on xp pro 64-bit)
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# [20:27] <ted> Gijs: that might be vs2012 screwing you
# [20:27] <ted> i don't think it builds winxp compatible apps
# [20:27] <bkero> RyanVM: Cool. I hope it didn't happen to any other repos. :/
# [20:27] <Gijs> that is very sad.
# [20:27] <ted> sure is
# [20:27] <bkero> I'm going to try to go into the office.
# [20:27] <RyanVM> birch had a push right before the closure (11 seconds it appears)
# [20:27] <@ehsan> what's up with the tree?
# [20:27] <Gijs> ted: try build it is, then. :s
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# [20:28] <RyanVM> bkero: i don't see issues on other trees
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# [20:29] <RyanVM> pushlog tip and repo tip look the same
# [20:29] <bkero> Cool
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# [20:29] <fabrice> RyanVM: did I break something?
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# [20:29] <RyanVM> yes, IT WAS ALL FABRICE' FAULT
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# [20:30] <RyanVM> fabrice: No, you just narrowly avoided a tree closure that was....problematic
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# [20:32] <RyanVM> bkero: given that we lost a ton of test results on inbound from all this, I'm going to keep that closed for awhile
# [20:32] <RyanVM> I think we're ok to reopen the rest
# [20:32] * RyanVM supposes he could open cypress for awhile
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# [20:33] <bkero> RyanVM: Your call. Nothing needed from me, things seem okay on my end.
# [20:33] <RyanVM> no time like the present
# [20:34] <Yoric> Oh, gosh.
# [20:34] <Yoric> Found my issue with NS_ProxyRelease.
# [20:34] <Yoric> What is the best way to cast a nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> to a nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> without touching the refcounter?
# [20:34] <Yoric> NS_ISUPPORTS_CAST doesn't do it (I want a nsCOMPtr<nsISupports>, not a nsISupports*)
# [20:34] <@ehsan> treestatus: ping
# [20:34] <@ehsan> treestatus: watch mozilla-inbound
# [20:35] <dholbert> bz, un-ping
# [20:35] <RyanVM> k, cypress is open for those who are feeling adventurous
# [20:35] <JosiahOne> Does this look correct to everyone? http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2462739
# [20:35] <@smaug> remote: abort: Operation not permitted: /repo/hg/mozilla/try/.hg/journal.bookmarks
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# [20:36] <froydnj> Yoric: why don't you want to touch the refcount?
# [20:36] <Yoric> Because I'm in the process of releasing.
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# [20:36] <Yoric> I just need to get rid of an ambiguous conversion.
# [20:36] <bkero> smaug: go ahead and try again
# [20:37] <froydnj> Yoric: the refcount is already 0?
# [20:37] <@smaug> bkero: worked
# [20:37] * RyanVM changes topic to 'cypress is OPEN for inbound pushes || Next uplift 24 June || Want to help? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
# [20:37] <Yoric> froydnj: No, it's 1.
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# [20:37] <Yoric> But I'm in the process of calling NS_ProxyRelease, so I'd rather avoid increasing it accidentally.
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# [20:38] <tbsaunde> Yoric: incereasing should then be fine just wasteful no?
# [20:39] <Yoric> tbsaunde: Well, increasing on one thread while we decrease on another one sounds risky.
# [20:39] <Yoric> Actually, that's not what would happen.
# [20:39] <@ehsan> aklotz: ping
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# [20:39] <Yoric> Actually, I'm not sure what would happen.
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# [20:39] <Yoric> But I'll have an increase on one thread and a decrease on another one.
# [20:39] <Yoric> It might be safe.
# [20:39] <aklotz> ehsan: pong
# [20:39] <@smaug> nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> f = dont_AddRef(static_cast<nsISupports*>(foo.forget().get())); ... is that ugly enough :)
# [20:39] <Yoric> Just not very friendly.
# [20:39] <Yoric> smaug: Ok, that looks ugly enough.
# [20:40] <Yoric> If I just do static_cast, will that addref?
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# [20:40] <Yoric> I mean, NS_ProxyRelease(foo, static_cast<nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo>>(bar)) ?
# [20:40] <@smaug> Yoric: you need to somehow assign already_AddRefed to nsCOMPtr<nsISupports>
# [20:41] <@smaug> dont_AddRef returns already_AddRefed
# [20:41] <@smaug> hmm
# [20:41] <Yoric> Why do I need that, if I pass to a function that takes as argument a nsCOMPtr?
# [20:41] <Yoric> Why do I need that, if I pass to a function that takes as argument a nsCOMPtr&, actually?
# [20:41] <@smaug> oh
# [20:41] <Mook_as> ted: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/ms235435%28v=vs.110%29.aspx says vc11 + xp = ok
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# [20:41] <Ms2ger> Oh, heh
# [20:42] <@smaug> but you can't static_cast
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# [20:42] <Ms2ger> smaug, nsCOMPtr<nsISupports> f = foo.forget(); ?
# [20:42] <@smaug> would that work
# [20:42] <Ms2ger> It should
# [20:42] <jwalden> glandium: you know about static initializers, right? maybe you can comment on the last bit of bug 877216 comment 2?
# [20:42] <@smaug> forget() returns already_AddRefed<nsIFoo>
# [20:43] <@smaug> not already_AddRefed<nsISupports>
# [20:43] <Ms2ger> Sure
# [20:43] <tbsaunde> Yoric: why can't you just pass nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo> into proxy release? that's what the template is for
# [20:43] <Ms2ger> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsCOMPtr.h#168
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# [20:43] <Yoric> tbsaunde: Ambiguous cast.
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# [20:43] <ted> Mook_as: i think they only made that change as of sp1
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# [20:43] <sfink> RyanVM: just to confirm... cypress isn't up to date wrt to m-i. So it's ok if I push not only my new stuff but the rest of what's on m-i right now?
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# [20:44] <RyanVM> no
# [20:44] <@smaug> Ms2ger: ah
# [20:44] <ted> Mook_as: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/10/08/10357555.aspx
# [20:44] <RyanVM> sfink: push on top of what's there
# [20:44] <sfink> hm, ok. I'll have to rebase back to that.
# [20:44] <froydnj> Yoric: you can just cast to something that's not ambiguous when casted to nsISupports
# [20:44] <RyanVM> sfink: the idea being that we're using the last known-good cset as a base
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# [20:44] <Mook_as> ted: ah. also, it seems like it needs extra options... possibly /subsystem:windows,5.01
# [20:44] <ted> it sounds kind of horrible
# [20:44] <Yoric> froydnj: Yeah, that's what I'm doing. It seems to fail, though.
# [20:44] <jwalden> Yoric: where is it you need this nsCOMPtr<nsISupports>, exactly?
# [20:44] <tbsaunde> Yoric: how? nsIFoo shouldn't multiply inherit from nsISupports
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# [20:45] <jwalden> Yoric: it's probably possible to throw SFINAE at this, if all else fails
# [20:45] <Yoric> jwalden: Actually, I need nsCOMPtr<nsISomeParentFromFoo>.
# [20:45] <sfink> RyanVM: aw, darn. I have to run off and pick up my kid. I kinda wanted to experiment with cypress, but I'd rather not push and run right now.
# [20:45] <RyanVM> ok
# [20:45] <Yoric> NS_ProxyRelease(target, static_cast<nsRefPtr<mozIStorageConnection>>(mClone));
# [20:45] <jwalden> Yoric: so you have nsIFoo -> nsIBar -> nsISupports, you have nsCOMPtr<nsIFoo>, you want nsCOMPtr<nsIBar>?
# [20:45] <Yoric> doesn't seem to work, though
# [20:45] <Yoric> yes
# [20:46] <Yoric> (I don't know why it doesn't work, gdb in progress)
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# [20:46] <jwalden> can aggregation be getting in your way here? knee-jerk instinct is no, but I'm not sure I trust it
# [20:47] <tbsaunde> Yoric: oh, you're using the nsRefPtr one not the nsCOMPtr that's more different
# [20:47] <Yoric> Ah, good point.
# [20:47] <Yoric> I can switch to nsCOMPtr if necessary.
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# [20:47] <jwalden> Yoric: nsCOMPtr<concrete class> is undesirable generally
# [20:48] <tbsaunde> Yoric: I'm really confused about what you actually have...
# [20:48] <Yoric> Yeah, that's why I used nsRefPtr.
# [20:48] <Yoric> I have a nsRefPtr<Connection>, where Connection implements a gazillion of interfaces.
# [20:49] <jwalden> so you have T -> U -> Base, you have an nsRefPtr<T>, you want to call a method taking nsCOMPtr<U>
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# [20:49] <bdahl> smaug: revisiting the print preview issue, seems if we want to keep the docshell/window background but keep the timeouts/animationframes running normally we'd have to introduce another nsGlobalWindow flag
# [20:49] <tbsaunde> we should probably just fix the proxy release that takes an nsRefPtr to handle T multiply inheriting nsISupports
# [20:49] <Yoric> I would like to call a method that takes as argument a nsRefPtr<nsISupports>.
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# [20:49] <Ms2ger> I'm pretty sure it doesn't take nsRefPtr<nsISupports>
# [20:49] <@gavin> nothing should take nsRefPtr<nsISupports>
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# [20:49] <jwalden> yeah, that's not right
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# [20:49] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Good point.
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# [20:50] <Yoric> I may have confused stuff.
# [20:50] <@bz> If A multiply inherits from B
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# [20:50] <@bz> and you have an A*
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# [20:50] <@bz> and you want to call a method taking B*
# [20:50] <@bz> then you just have to disambiguate
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# [20:50] <tbsaunde> jwalden: his real problem is the nsPRoxyRelase that takes nsRefPtr doesn't handle T inheriting nsISupports multiple times which we should just fix
# [20:50] <@smaug> bdahl: trying to page in the printing stuff to my mind :)
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# [20:50] <Yoric> er....
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# [20:51] <bdahl> smaug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844479
# [20:51] <jwalden> tbsaunde: yeah, my inchoate thoughts were leaning toward adding another NS_ProxyRelease overload, or something, but I wasn't to the point of being sure yet
# [20:51] <Yoric> Yeah, for some reason NS_ProxyRelease won't accept my nsRefPtr.
# [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a167dfaa105b - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 863754 - Make mach run and mach debug pass -foreground by default on Mac; r=ted
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# [20:51] <@smaug> bdahl: can we just keep the original tab active
# [20:51] <Yoric> Although the signature is NS_ProxyRelease(nsIEventTarget* target, nsRefPtr<T>& doomed)
# [20:51] <Yoric> WTF?
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# [20:51] <froydnj> Yoric: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/storage/src/StorageBaseStatementInternal.cpp#94
# [20:51] <bdahl> smaug: that's kind of what https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=743154&action=diff does
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# [20:52] <Ms2ger> Yoric, and it then calls NS_ProxyRelease(nsISupports*) with a T*
# [20:52] <tbsaunde> Yoric: I just explained that it thinks it can implicitly convert T* to nsISupports* but that doesn't work if T inherits from nsISupports multiple times
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> So
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# [20:52] <Ms2ger> nsRefPtr<Connection> foo ....
# [20:52] <Yoric> tbsaunde: This still deserves a WTF :)
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> nsCOMPtr<nsIBar> bar = foo.forget();
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> NS_ProxyRelease(bar);
# [20:52] <Yoric> Yeah, I can call forget() myself.
# [20:52] <Ms2ger> Should do it
# [20:52] <froydnj> Yoric: it is C++
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# [20:53] <Yoric> It's just kind of annoying, since NS_ProxyRelease() essentially starts by doing forget().
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# [20:53] <Six> could someone quickly explain to me the mecanism behind things like : NS_DEFINE_STATIC_IID_ACCESSOR and then the methods declaration under this statement?
# [20:54] <tbsaunde> Yoric: I'm not arguing that we shouldn't fix proxy release
# [20:54] <Yoric> Well at least, I now understand the issue.
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# [20:54] <Yoric> Thanks.
# [20:54] <Yoric> Thanks everyone.
# [20:54] * jwalden isn't sure *how* to fix NS_ProxyRelease for this, since the path to disambiguate the cast-to-nsISupports* will be custom per multiply-inherited type
# [20:55] <Six> thing used in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/quota/nsIOfflineStorage.h for ecample
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# [20:55] <Ms2ger> NeilAway would be happy to tell you :)
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# [20:57] <tbsaunde> jwalden: my first though is to template the runnable
# [20:58] <tbsaunde> jwalden: which would hurt code size a little I suspect but would have the nice advantage of being able to use proxy release on not nsISupports things
# [20:58] <tbsaunde> jwalden: like just have the runnable hold a T*
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# [20:59] <jwalden> tbsaunde: oh, right; that wouldn't even hurt code size, anyway, because it's just a T* in both places, and T::Release() is going to generate an identical virtual call for all T
# [21:00] <jwalden> assuming a moderately smart compiler
# [21:00] <jwir3> hm... do I have to define static variables a special way for OSX? I'm getting an error: "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
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# [21:00] <jwir3> nsRuleNode::ComputeColumnData(void*, nsRuleData const*, nsStyleContext*, nsRuleNode*, nsRuleNode::RuleDetail, bool) in nsRuleNode.o" when building this patch on try: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/253d0a6e0644
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# [21:03] <jwalden> jwir3: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5391973/undefined-reference-to-static-const-int for example
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# [21:05] <tbsaunde> jwalden: well it might lead to exessive inlining but whatever
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# [21:05] <jwalden> tbsaunde: premature optimization :-)
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# [21:07] <tbsaunde> jwalden: alternatively "putting off doing useful work
# [21:07] * froydnj is pretty sure gecko already requires "excessive inlining" to run with a reasonable level of performance
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# [21:15] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: sorry I would like to but I don't think I actually know that one
# [21:15] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, that's a first :)
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# [21:16] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: hmm, would a templated function that casts a nsI* to an nsISupports* be of any use, and then when you want to release a T*, just provide an override?
# [21:17] <Ms2ger> Something like ToSupports that we've got in dom?
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# [21:18] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: actually ToSupports appears to be in xpcom, which is even better
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# [21:19] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: but why do that when you can allow people to proxy release arbitrary things that have Release()?
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# [21:19] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, looks like a CC thing that's something else than what I meant :)
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# [21:20] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: because then suddenly everything is templated, when in fact you want to keep nsProxyReleaseEvent in the .cpp
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# [21:20] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: why is that important?
# [21:20] <Ms2ger> Code size?
# [21:21] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: well, I don't see why we can't use ToSupports(raw) to avoid the ambiguity
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# [21:24] <gaston> what's cypress ? a new integration branch ?
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# [21:25] <philor> gaston: it's experimenting with the idea of an inbound2 that's only open while inbound is going to be closed for a while
# [21:25] <philor> judging by the number of pushes to it so far, a failed experiment
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# [21:26] <Six> Ms2ger: bug 877746 (moz_override in /dom), patch is ready :)
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# [21:27] <tbsaunde> philor: I'd use it if people would review my patches
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# [21:27] <Ms2ger> Six, I promised baku I'd review his patches tomorrow... So I guess I'll get to you over the weekend
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# [21:28] <nmatsakis> is dxr...down?
# [21:29] <Six> Ms2ger: i didnt say that to rush you, just to say it's done :)
# [21:29] <@smaug> ++Ms2ger doing MOZ_OVERRIDE review
# [21:29] <Six> Ms2ger: i told you 1h but i had to eat
# [21:29] * Ms2ger throws it at smaug
# [21:29] <@smaug> Six: thanks for the patch to content/
# [21:29] <gaston> philor: ugh
# [21:29] <Ms2ger> Six, and thanks for the patch
# [21:29] <philor> bz: you've got orange
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# [21:30] <djvj> philor: ping
# [21:30] <Six> smaug,Ms2ger: thanks you, now it's just a script that i launch hard work has already been done
# [21:31] <philor> nmatsakis: I'd hope so, since it hasn't updated for weeks, so it's a dangerously outdated look at what we were like sometime in April
# [21:31] <djvj> philor: question about https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f164f2bbd0c7 . Try build for updated version of that ggc patch that caused so much trouble yesterday. Are the oranges/reds on that ignoreable? They seem so.
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# [21:31] <philor> djvj: "Loading failed: error"
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# [21:31] <philor> did we maybe reset some try pushes out of existence?
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# [21:32] <Mook_as> nmatsakis: hmm, should be back up. and about ~ a week old?
# [21:32] <reuben> nmatsakis: not "down", but completely busted, yes
# [21:32] <Ms2ger> philor, yes, I believe so
# [21:32] <djvj> philor: gah! I had it loaded! Well anyway, I'm gonna run with that.
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# [21:32] <Mook_as> (but the site was fixed about ~ half an hour ago, AIUI)
# [21:32] <philor> fuckfuckfuck
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# [21:33] <philor> um, I mean
# [21:33] <reuben> Mook_as: still giving me 404's for every page
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# [21:33] <philor> jhopkins|buildduty: the try repo seems to have been reset, so there's something you need to do with the scheduler to make it start scheduling again
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# [21:34] <jhopkins|buildduty> ok, let me investigate
# [21:34] <philor> you have docs somewhere ;)
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# [21:34] * philor *thinks* leaving it open is okay, that things don't fall on the floor
# [21:34] <Mook_as> reuben: strange; http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/CLOBBER is giving me something. (63.245.216.215?)
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# [21:35] <reuben> Mook_as: hm, the URL scheme changed, maybe that's it
# [21:35] <RyanVM> bz: inbound orange
# [21:35] <reuben> used to not have /source/
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# [21:37] <@bz> RyanVM: looking
# [21:37] <@bz> RyanVM: er...
# [21:37] <@bz> RyanVM: is it just me or is my change showing up under a push by sfink??
# [21:37] <RyanVM> yes
# [21:37] <sfink> RyanVM: nobody pushed to cypress? Hm, then am I still clear to land there?
# [21:38] <RyanVM> sfink: go for it
# [21:38] * @bz wonders why
# [21:38] <RyanVM> bz: read the scrollback if you want the gory details
# [21:38] <RyanVM> bz: tldr - pushlog got horked, had to reset and re-push some stuff
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# [21:38] <@bz> ok
# [21:38] <@bz> so up
# [21:38] <@bz> er, um
# [21:38] <sfink> I'm trying to take credit for your work
# [21:39] <@bz> wtf?
# [21:39] * @bz ran that test locally!
# [21:39] <jhopkins|buildduty> philor: i'm not so sure this just affects Try - there are no pending builds in buildapi
# [21:39] <@bz> And it passed
# [21:39] <@bz> give me a sec
# [21:40] <@bz> If we want to back out something, just disable the test
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# [21:40] <Ms2ger> Shut everything down again?
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# [21:41] <RyanVM> bz: inbound's closed for the foreseeable future, so I don't care if you want to work on a fix
# [21:41] <@bz> ok
# [21:41] <@bz> well, let's see if I can reproduce, for a start
# [21:42] <gaston> foreseeable future as in several hours ?
# [21:42] <RyanVM> gaston: at least another 1-2 I'd wager
# [21:46] <philor> jhopkins|buildduty: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/pending shows me some
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# [21:57] <glandium> jwalden: too late for me to think straight about it
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# [21:58] <@bz> RyanVM: that test passes in my local build...
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# [21:58] <@bz> glandium: Is that about the relocation thing?
# [21:58] <RyanVM> bz: one of the linux64 runs came up green
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# [21:58] <RyanVM> bz: osx debug only so far
# [21:59] <@bz> RyanVM: yes, I'm running an OSX debug build....
# [21:59] <RyanVM> fun
# [21:59] <@bz> RyanVM: let me poke at this thing some more
# [21:59] <@bz> RyanVM: Now I'm running just this test, not the full test suite.. in case that matters
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# [22:00] <@bz> RyanVM: but if this test is failing that's really bad....
# [22:00] <@bz> RyanVM: now the caveat is that I built what I pushed, not what's on the tree
# [22:00] * @bz tries the latter
# [22:00] <tbsaunde> bz: you could try froydnj on the stati constructor thing or just apply your patch and see if there's more __GLOBAL_sub_I_Foo.cpp though that might be hard given the number of static constructors we already have for bindings
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# [22:01] <tbsaunde> bz: thoguh you could disassemble those functions and see
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# [22:01] <tbsaunde> does anyone know why https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&pusher=trev.saunders@gmail.com doesn't seem to be getting builds?
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# [22:02] <glandium> bz: about the static constructor thing
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# [22:02] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: looks like we're still having problems related to the earlier trouble today
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# [22:03] <glandium> tbsaunde: if there is already a __GLOBAL_* for that file, he won't see a difference :)
# [22:03] <glandium> otoh, if there is already one, then he's not effectively adding anything
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# [22:03] <@bz> glandium: ok
# [22:03] <@bz> glandium: I could just try a small testcase
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# [22:04] <tbsaunde> glandium: yeah, see the second half of what I said and why I suggested disassembling :-)
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# [22:04] <@bz> glandium: just do nm and grep for __GLOBAL__ ?
# [22:04] <@bz> or something else?
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# [22:05] <glandium> bz: yeah, nm, or objdump -t
# [22:06] <tbsaunde> glandium: isn't it _GLOBAL__sub_I_ that bz wants to grep for?
# [22:06] * @bz is no mac, so no objdump
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# [22:06] <RyanVM> bz: on the off chance, I clobbered osx and triggered a new build
# [22:06] <@bz> RyanVM: thanks
# [22:06] * @bz is waiting for his pull to build
# [22:06] <tbsaunde> man no objdump on mac laim
# [22:06] <RyanVM> sfink: http://youveburnedmytree.ytmnd.com/
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# [22:07] <RyanVM> first push bustage on cypress
# [22:07] <sfink> score!
# [22:07] <RyanVM> nice start
# [22:07] <froydnj> need charred tree branch on sfink's desk, stat
# [22:07] <tbsaunde> glandium: but btw I suspect I may be able to make a bunch of the static constructors in bindings and jseng go away with the same sillyness as bug 876515
# [22:08] <@ehsan> bz: are you backing out?
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# [22:08] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: what the hell sir?!
# [22:08] <@bz> ehsan: see above?
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# [22:08] <@ehsan> bz: oh, ignore me :)
# [22:09] <jrmuizel> ehsan: what?
# [22:09] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: why are you here?
# [22:09] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: so, should I do something about not getting builds or just wait?
# [22:09] <jrmuizel> ehsan: my laptop logs into irc automatically
# [22:09] <sfink> wow, a build failure even
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# [22:09] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: good reason! :)
# [22:09] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: i'd watch #releng
# [22:09] <sfink> I find this to be a completely appropriate inauguration of cypress
# [22:09] <jrmuizel> ehsan: I was going to check about what I need to do to get toronto parks to plant a tree for me
# [22:10] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: you won't find that information here... maybe #toronto?
# [22:10] <@ehsan> (I don't know myself)
# [22:10] <jrmuizel> ehsan: I wasn't going to check on irc
# [22:10] <sfink> windows doesn't have ssize_t? whee
# [22:10] <@ehsan> that's smart
# [22:10] <@bz> glandium, tbsaunde: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2462990
# [22:10] <@bz> Seems to be ok
# [22:11] <@ehsan> sfink: #define ssize_t size_t
# [22:11] <philor> so which tree were we going to make inbound3?
# [22:11] * froydnj votes for m-c
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# [22:12] <@bz> mayhemer?
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# [22:12] <mayhemer> bz: yes?
# [22:13] <@bz> mayhemer: See jimb's question?
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# [22:13] <jimb> mayhemer: Hi! Let me find the mysterious stack...
# [22:13] <mayhemer> jimb: mcmanus
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# [22:13] <tbsaunde> bz: I guess that's mac I'm not actually sure how you look for static constructors there, but none of those symbols look bad to me maybe just land the patch and see what happens?
# [22:14] <jimb> mayhemer: He doesn't seem to be available...
# [22:14] <mayhemer> jimb: find him on #necko
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# [22:14] <jimb> mayhemer: Thanks!
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# [22:14] <@bz> tbsaunde: if I add an actual static thing with a ctor I get GLOBAL stuff
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# [22:18] <Gijs> ted: fwiw, seems with update 1, VS2012 can target XP, but the only tutorial MS gives you for that is "in the settings for your solution..."
# [22:18] <Gijs> ted: not sure how to translate that to mach/build options.
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# [22:19] <@bz> RyanVM: what I just pulled also passes the test for me
# [22:20] <@bz> RyanVM: debug mac...
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# [22:20] <RyanVM> that's reassuring
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# [22:30] <Ms2ger> philor, so try pushes need to be repushed?
# [22:31] <Mook_as> Gijs: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/10/08/10357555.aspx has a section about the command line
# [22:31] <Mook_as> it's, umm, crazy-looking
# [22:31] <Mook_as> (it's like they're shipping an older version of the windows sdk and linking against that...)
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# [22:34] <Gijs> Mook_as: uh, yeah, not quite sure how that'd work in the mozilla build system
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# [22:34] <Mook_as> Gijs: "horribly", I assume. (probably in start-msvc*.bat instead of the build system, for at least the env path setting... arrrgh)
# [22:34] <@bz> RyanVM: Looks like it's only the mac debug builds, eh?
# [22:35] <RyanVM> bz: yeah...
# [22:35] <Gijs> Mook_as: I'm confused, I actually thought that the SDK settings weren't relevant
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# [22:35] <Gijs> Oh, wait.
# [22:35] <@bz> RyanVM: this is exciting
# [22:36] <Gijs> Mook_as: so I'd need the Windows 7.1 SDK, and crazy env settings
# [22:36] <Gijs> sigh.
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# [22:37] <Mook_as> Gijs: at least you can use MOZ_MAXWINSDK. possibly.
# [22:38] <Gijs> pushing to try seemed easier... :)
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# [22:38] <Gijs> but what's this I hear, I need to repush? :s
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# [22:38] <Gijs> oooh, fancy error page
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# [22:40] <Gijs> RyanVM: so if I want to repush to try, what do I do? qpop + qpush + hg try gets me "no changes found" :(
# [22:41] <RyanVM> make a small change to the commit message to get a new hash
# [22:41] <RyanVM> should work
# [22:41] <froydnj> tbsaunde: ping
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# [22:42] <jesup> RyanVM: got some patches to land.... Cypress? Or will inbound open soon?
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# [22:42] <RyanVM> jesup: push to cypress
# [22:42] <RyanVM> still waiting on a retrigger for the M3 orange
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# [22:43] * jesup clones (from a local inbound)
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# [22:44] <@bz> froydnj: ping
# [22:44] <froydnj> bz: pong
# [22:44] <@bz> froydnj: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2463119
# [22:44] <@bz> froydnj: though that's still mac. Should I test on Linux with gcc?
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# [22:46] <ialagenchev> I am getting the following build error and I just pulled from central. Does anyone have any idea? ../../dist/include/Layers.h:767:20: error: use of overloaded operator '!=' is ambiguous (with operand types 'nsRefPtr<mozilla::layers::Layer>' and 'mozilla::layers::Layer *')
# [22:46] <ialagenchev> 0:23.77 if (mMaskLayer != aMaskLayer)
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# [22:47] <bsmedberg_> aklotz: you said you've never done Windows kernel debugging?
# [22:47] <froydnj> bz: might want to make it so f isn't optimized away as unused
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# [22:47] <aklotz> bsmedberg_: That's right
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# [22:48] <@bz> froydnj: throwing printf("%s", f.foo);
# [22:48] <@bz> froydnj: into main()
# [22:48] <@bz> froydnj: kills the warning and doesn't change the nm stuff
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# [22:48] <bsmedberg_> aklotz: bah ;-) I'm trying to follow the MS directions, and it calls for a "USB debug device" which apparently is not sold any more
# [22:48] <@bz> froydnj: (well, apart from the things stdio pulls in)
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# [22:48] <aklotz> bsmedberg_: Oh, lovely
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# [22:49] <froydnj> bz: I have to remove the |static| or GCC optimizes f.k into the constant
# [22:49] <bsmedberg_> I can't even find one on ebay!
# [22:49] <froydnj> bz: but no static constructors here on gcc
# [22:49] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: that is ... really strange
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# [22:49] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: I am investigating … it might be ccache
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# [22:49] <aklotz> bsmedberg_: I guess people don't want to let them go!
# [22:50] * bsmedberg_ is considering cracking the computer apart and searching for a serial port connection on the laptop motherboard
# [22:51] * froydnj wishes he had his linux machine to try out constexpr magic
# [22:51] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: bustage on cypress
# [22:51] <bsmedberg_> I can supposedly use kernel-debugging-over ethernet, but only if I put windows 8 on the machine
# [22:51] <tbsaunde> froydnj: you want to try and kill more static constructors?
# [22:51] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: ugh, link?
# [22:51] <aklotz> bsmedberg_: ugh
# [22:52] <RyanVM> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23608590&tree=Cypress
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# [22:52] <bsmedberg_> but the crash in 21.0b4 was primarily on win7, and I can't figure out the memory corruption pattern for the crash in 19.0 that did affect win8
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# [22:52] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I wanted to see if the patch for bug 809306 could be redone with constexpr to address dvander's concerns
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# [22:52] <bsmedberg_> stupid laptops with only modern ports
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# [22:53] <sfink> bsmedberg_: it doesn't just want a USB serial port adapter?
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# [22:53] <bsmedberg_> no
# [22:53] <bsmedberg_> sfink: the kernel debugging facilities run on their own chip so that you don't disturb the kernel while you're debugging it
# [22:54] <bsmedberg_> that has grown over the years from the serial-port interface to the USB interface to support in the networking card
# [22:54] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: bah, that's really strange, I think I know how to fix, but I guess back me out and I'll try it on try
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# [22:54] <bsmedberg_> but you can't do anything like an adapter that requires running the normal kernel drivers
# [22:55] <sfink> bsmedberg_: I don't suppose you can run it in a VM?
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# [22:56] <@ehsan> inbound is still closed...
# [22:56] <bsmedberg_> no
# [22:56] <@ehsan> yay for debugging stuff on the tree :(
# [22:56] <bsmedberg_> not this particular bug, anyway
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# [22:56] <sfink> oh, graphics driver-y stuff
# [22:57] <sfink> bsmedberg_: this is the one with the nvidia driver?
# [22:57] <jesup> Oh so ironic.... inbound and cypress both closed
# [22:57] <bsmedberg_> yes
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# [22:58] <sfink> bsmedberg_: threaten nvidia that they need to figure it out for you or we'll complain about it on our main mozilla communication channels?
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# [22:58] <@bz> froydnj: great
# [22:58] <philor> so, which twig were we going to use for inbound4?
# [22:58] <@bz> froydnj: I'm sticking with it, then. ;)
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# [22:59] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: want me to do the backout?
# [22:59] <RyanVM> already done
# [22:59] <bsmedberg_> sfink: that only works if we think there's a reasonable chance of them fixing it
# [22:59] <bsmedberg_> sfink: but we've got some things up our sleeve
# [22:59] <tbsaunde> froydnj: the trick with that will be that atm we don't compile the jseng in c++11 mode
# [22:59] <RyanVM> jesup: if there's one things we're good at around here...
# [23:00] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: thx
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# [23:02] <froydnj> tbsaunde: bleh
# [23:02] <tbsaunde> froydnj: but I was thinking about fixing that after I post the patch to get rid of a bunch of the svg static constructors
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# [23:03] <bsmedberg_> johns: did you see my ping from earlier?
# [23:04] <johns> bsmedberg_: About the comments in that patch?
# [23:04] <bsmedberg_> yes
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# [23:04] <johns> bsmedberg_: I replied that they look good, yeah - though to bsmedberg without the _ :-P
# [23:04] <bsmedberg_> ah ok
# [23:05] <bsmedberg_> in Toronto today and my desktop client is still connected but unavailable...
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# [23:05] <sheppy> Man, clearing my Firefox cache takes like 5 minutes. :)
# [23:05] <johns> bsmedberg_: Did you look at the GetTypeOfContent thing? I was looking at that file some more and that might be slightly more involved to fix
# [23:06] * bsmedberg_ looks again
# [23:06] <bsmedberg_> johns: well, I fixed GetTypeOfContent to not check the disabled state...
# [23:06] <KWierso> sheppy: huh, my cache is only 370MB...
# [23:06] <bsmedberg_> need to redo the try run for that
# [23:06] <johns> bsmedberg_: There's a few other callers of GetTypeOfContent that I'm worried expect that
# [23:07] <@bz> yay test runs going
# [23:07] <johns> bsmedberg_: Namely GetContentTypeForMIMEType
# [23:07] <@bz> ETA 32..
# [23:07] <sheppy> My cache has taken a long, long time to empty for many months now.
# [23:07] <@gavin> sheppy: thankfully the cache is being rewritten
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# [23:09] <sheppy> gavin: yay :)
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# [23:10] <bsmedberg_> johns: that part looks ok to me: the browser-chrome bits look correct
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# [23:10] <bsmedberg_> johns: and although it appears to be reflected into HTMLObjectElement.webidl, that's ChromeOnly
# [23:10] <johns> bsmedberg_: Also around line 1741
# [23:11] <bsmedberg_> johns: you mean the eFallback codepath?
# [23:11] <johns> bsmedberg_: It checks if GetTypeOfContent returns null, then checks if there's a disabled plugin, which cannot be true
# [23:11] <bsmedberg_> yeah
# [23:11] <bsmedberg_> looking at that
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# [23:11] <bsmedberg_> I think that works with the patch, although it's dead code
# [23:12] <johns> bsmedberg_: Does the patch handle eFallbackBlocklisted?
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# [23:12] <bsmedberg_> that's the blacklist state which isn't CTP
# [23:12] <bsmedberg_> but force-disables?
# [23:12] <johns> yeah
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# [23:13] <johns> bsmedberg_: I think if ShouldPlay handles that properly, the whole inside of that if statement can just be |fallbackType = eFallbackUnsupported| and the comment fixed
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# [23:14] <bsmedberg_> I don't think ShouldPlay handles that currently, but it should
# [23:14] * bsmedberg_ will fix, and apparently write a test
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# [23:14] <johns> bsmedberg_: Well previously we wouldn't let disabled or blocklisted plugins get chosen as a mType so it didn't matter
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# [23:15] <bsmedberg_> yeah, I mean
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# [23:15] <bsmedberg_> the patch I has passes tests, so apparently we don't actually test this kind of blacklisting anywhere
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# [23:15] <johns> bsmedberg_: Did you re-do the test with the GetTypeOfContent change?
# [23:16] <bsmedberg_> yes
# [23:16] <johns> :(
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# [23:16] <bsmedberg_> it only tests the CtP style
# [23:16] <bsmedberg_> not the other one
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# [23:17] <bsmedberg_> I don't think we've ever deployed the other kind of block
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# [23:28] <jhopkins|buildduty> tbsaunde: since self-serve doesn't know about the unbuilt try changes, it's going to be easier if the affected developers re-push their change to try
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# [23:32] <johns> bsmedberg_: I think we softblocked plugins before having CtP blocking, didn't we?
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# [23:33] <tbsaunde> jhopkins|buildduty: ack
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# [23:35] <bsmedberg_> johns: yes, but this state is the hard block not the soft block I think
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# [23:35] <johns> bsmedberg_: So when the plugin was soft-blocked we'd just display a "This plugin is disabled" dialog? It seems like we should've used the blocklist state for that.
# [23:36] <RyanVM> bz: you're green
# [23:36] <RyanVM> "yay"
# [23:36] <@bz> RyanVM: whee!
# [23:36] * RyanVM reopens inbound and closes cypress
# [23:36] <bsmedberg_> johns: soft blocking works by disabling the plugin once, but the user can reenable it
# [23:36] <@bz> RyanVM: And again, wtf? ;)
# [23:36] <@bz> RyanVM: my best hypothesis is it ran the wrong binary or something....
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# [23:36] <RyanVM> bz: indeedy
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# [23:37] <RyanVM> philor: I've gtg now. I'll merge cypress to inbound later tonight if nobody else beats me to it
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# [23:37] <johns> bsmedberg_: Yes, but if the user agrees to disable it, they should probably be reminded of why the plugin is disabled when they encounter it on a page
# [23:37] <bsmedberg_> enh
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# [23:37] <bsmedberg_> soft blocks aren't important, we've replaced them all with ctpblocks I think
# [23:38] <johns> Let's delete them! Deleting plugin code is fun
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# [23:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7634d727b1a - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 831507 - Add generational-gc post-write barriers to baseline compiler. r=jandem
# [23:40] <@ehsan> treestatus: watch mozilla-inbound
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# [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d921692be88f - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865806 - Part 1: Continue walking up the frame tree when hitting a transparent frame as we're trying to determine whether a given element's background is dark or
# [23:42] <firebot> not; r=roc
# [23:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe6ca42a5b6e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 877039 - Set the Web Audio maximum channel count to 32; r=roc
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# [23:44] <bsmedberg_> jlin: ok, I found "the other candidate"! REQ0016019 is filed
# [23:44] <@ehsan> so how do we treat people who land with the wrong bug# these days?
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# [23:44] <@ehsan> should I backout and reland?
# [23:44] * bsmedberg_ has just ignored it
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# [23:45] <bsmedberg_> I put a comment in the 'wrong' bug pointing back to the right bug
# [23:45] <@ehsan> ok I'll do that too
# [23:45] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [23:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb910ddfc5bb - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 877540. Fix remaining unsafe reference hazards in browser code. r=terrence
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# [23:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a6de622f9574 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 865377. Give EventTarget a chrome-only getter that returns its global. r=smaug
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