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# [00:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a21e83107b0 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 778948 - Move jsinterp.cpp/h to the vm/ dir. r=luke
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# [00:36] <benjamin> a clobber may be in order...
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# [00:46] * reuben just accidentally bumped into a table with some unagi slaves. hope it doesn't cause any oranges hehe
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# [01:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3025f175e2f1 - Benjamin Peterson - clobber for bug 778948
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# [01:14] <gaston> well well well
# [01:14] <gaston> http://rhaalovely.net/~landry/shared/firefox-24.0a1-sparc64-2.png
# [01:15] <gaston> firefox on sparc64 is back !
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# [04:31] <@dbaron> Where would I find documentation on the JavaScript 'of' keyword?
# [04:32] <@gavin> dbaron: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/for...of
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# [04:33] <@dbaron> gavin, thanks
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# [04:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdee5282b291 - Makoto Kato - Bug 875651 - Remove workaround of KB982107/Bug 635617 since required VS2010+. r=dvander
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# [04:43] <jcranmer|away> gaston: ping?
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# [04:45] <gaston> yes
# [04:45] <gaston> sorry for bothering you again with c-c :)
# [04:45] <jcranmer|away> are you landry@openbsd?
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# [04:45] <gaston> yes
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# [04:46] <jcranmer> gah, my firefox hung
# [04:46] <gaston> i just filed the bug to have a reminder & started digging into it
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# [04:46] <gaston> how's the cc build revamp going on ?
# [04:47] <jcranmer> I'm finally trying builds that make c-c build under m-c
# [04:47] <gaston> awesome
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# [04:47] <jcranmer> they fail
# [04:47] <gaston> less awesome
# [04:47] <jcranmer> but it's more minor stuff right now like "m-c uses : while c-c uses :: in the rule"
# [04:48] <gaston> oh ok, mechanical fixes
# [04:48] <gaston> it's in a branch ?
# [04:48] <jcranmer> I've got a stack of local patches to fix things
# [04:48] <jcranmer> mostly, I use symlinks to avoid rewriting all the paths
# [04:48] <gaston> but do you see the same issue i'm seeing, or i again have a weird setup ,
# [04:48] <gaston> ?
# [04:49] <jcranmer> I haven't seen your issue which makes me willing to believe that you do things in a way I never expected
# [04:49] <gaston> i see that tb-trunk tbpl is still fine, that's why i'm wondering...
# [04:50] <gaston> $gmake -f client.mk configure
# [04:51] <gaston> isnt it the expected way ?
# [04:51] <jcranmer> I've tested with $ make -f client.mk configure, so that doesn't appear to be the issue
# [04:52] <jcranmer> where is the dummy.in materializing from?
# [04:52] <gaston> that i have no idea, grep -r yields nothing
# [04:52] <gaston> python client.py checkout is still the way to update right ?
# [04:53] <jcranmer> yes
# [04:53] <gaston> http://pastie.org/7998873 has the full output
# [04:54] <gaston> mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/usr/obj/c-c
# [04:54] <gaston> export LDFLAGS=-Wl,--no-keep-memory
# [04:54] <gaston> export CC=clang
# [04:54] <gaston> export CXX=clang++
# [04:54] <gaston> mk_add_options PYTHON=/usr/local/bin/python2.7
# [04:54] <gaston> ac_add_options --disable-necko-wifi
# [04:54] <jcranmer> hmm
# [04:54] <gaston> i only have that in the .mozconfig
# [04:54] <jcranmer> grep dummy.in in the generated c-c configure?
# [04:54] <gaston> nothing..
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# [04:56] <jcranmer> can you upload your generated configure?
# [04:56] <gaston> sure
# [04:57] <gaston> rhaalovely.net/~landry/shared/configure
# [04:57] <gaston> http://, even
# [04:58] <gaston> but the problem seems to be more in mozilla/build & friends;.
# [04:58] <jcranmer> I'm trying to figure out if the c-c config.status fun is to blame
# [04:59] <gaston> config.status at the same place
# [05:00] <gaston> this one contains 'dummy' but not .in
# [05:00] <jcranmer> April 16 is the last part of bug 856540, which means it's possible/probable that something in the "delete all unnecessary code" was inadvertently making it work on OpenBSD
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# [05:01] <jcranmer> this is the first config.status that I need to output to stop autoconf from complaining
# [05:01] <gaston> Add CSP feature to disable innerHTML ? :)
# [05:01] <gaston> i doubt that's this one :)
# [05:01] <jcranmer> bug 846540*
# [05:02] <gaston> ah
# [05:02] <gaston> huge part 4 ? :(
# [05:02] <jcranmer> what does the config.status look like for you?
# [05:03] <gaston> http://rhaalovely.net/~landry/shared/config.status, nothing special
# [05:03] <jcranmer> 'dummy', 'python2.7',
# [05:03] <jcranmer> that is something special
# [05:04] <gaston> if you say so :)
# [05:04] <gaston> what's it supposed to be on a working config.status ?
# [05:04] <jcranmer> hmm
# [05:04] <jcranmer> trying to catch one of those is hard :-)
# [05:04] <gaston> forest of half broken trees ? :)
# [05:05] <jcranmer> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2479474
# [05:05] <gaston> ok so definitely smth weird here
# [05:06] <jcranmer> [the real config.status is actually weirder]
# [05:07] <jcranmer> for out in ; do echo " '$out'," >> $CONFIG_STATUS
# [05:07] <jcranmer> done
# [05:07] <jcranmer> that line should be doing absolutely nothing
# [05:07] <jcranmer> but I'm guessing that it's not
# [05:07] <gaston> if i diff them, that's the only difference
# [05:07] <jcranmer> [that line in the configure script]
# [05:07] <gaston> (ie 'dummy', 'python2.7'
# [05:08] <jcranmer> what is /bin/sh on your system?
# [05:08] <gaston> pdksh
# [05:09] <gaston> $for out in ; do echo " '$out'," ; done -> that yields nothing in an interactive shell at least
# [05:09] <gaston> aha!
# [05:09] <gaston> if i comment out that for loop in configure it goes further
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# [05:10] <jcranmer> yeah, I know a cheap hack to make that go away
# [05:11] * jcranmer is written the info up right now
# [05:11] <gaston> that's no real big deal if c-c goes below m-c for 24, but i dont really like "weird bugs" like this :)
# [05:13] <gaston> 28357 for out in mozilla-config.h; do
# [05:13] <gaston> 28358 echo " '$out'," >> $CONFIG_STATUS
# [05:13] <gaston> 28359 done
# [05:13] <gaston> m-c has this
# [05:14] <gaston> which seems to come from mozilla/build/autoconf/config.status.m4
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# [05:14] <gaston> so that might be a bug in our m4 or pdksh ?
# [05:14] <jcranmer> in the configure.in
# [05:14] <jcranmer> try changing AC_OUTPUT([]) to AC_OUTPUT([config/autoconf.mk])
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# [05:16] <gaston> bingo
# [05:17] <gaston> argh m4, argh autohell
# [05:17] <jcranmer> I think it's a pdksh bug
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# [05:18] <gaston> if AC_OUTPUT gets an argument, it goes to the for list values
# [05:18] <jcranmer> if you try replacing the /bin/sh in the original configure output with /bin/bash [assuming bash is installed], that could work as well
# [05:18] <gaston> letme try that too
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# [05:20] <gaston> indeed it works with usr/local/bin/bash
# [05:20] <jcranmer> looking at the configure script, set dummy $ac_prog is tried earlier in the program
# [05:20] <jcranmer> where $ac_prog could be conceivably python2.7
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# [05:21] <jcranmer> so if you try this in the shell:
# [05:21] <jcranmer> set dummy q; for out in ; do echo $out; done
# [05:22] <gaston> indeed it outputs dummy then q
# [05:22] <jcranmer> in bash it outputs nothing
# [05:22] <gaston> dunno what a "posix" shell is supposed to do there
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# [05:22] <jcranmer> /bin/dash is outputing nothing for me
# [05:23] <gaston> will see what our developers think about it :)
# [05:24] <gaston> nothing in zsh either
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# [05:43] <gaston> r.i.p sunbird :(
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# [05:47] <jcranmer> less maintenance costs
# [05:47] <jcranmer> some of those calendar makefiles make me want to gouge my eyes out
# [05:48] <gaston> :)
# [05:48] <gaston> makes sense of course, and it's still better integrated with TB - but i know my coworker still uses it
# [05:50] <jcranmer> well, tip almost certainly doesn't build
# [05:51] <gaston> yeah didnt last ewong & i tried a looooong while ago
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# [06:06] <JonathanS> gaston in galaxy
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# [06:12] <gaston> i'm in a galaxy where mozilla-central is running on sparc64 again, so yeah i'm far away :)
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# [06:16] <jcranmer> what platforms do we actually build on these days?
# [06:16] <jcranmer> I imagine we have some mips/sparc usage
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# [06:17] <jcranmer> oh, powerpc
# [06:17] <gaston> i run powerpc and fix it when it's broken
# [06:17] <gaston> some crazy souls seem to do mips but i dont really know the status
# [06:18] <gaston> sparc64 got finally fixed by a netbsd developer, and sparc(32) is "maintained" by oracle
# [06:18] <gaston> 3.6 runs on alpha last i tried, dunno for trunk :)
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# [06:19] <njn> I just updated to Ubuntu 13.04 and now get this when building firefox with clang:
# [06:19] <njn> 0:01.15 In file included from /home/njn/moz/mi0/build/unix/elfhack/elf.cpp:6:
# [06:19] <njn> 0:01.15 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../../include/c++/4.7/cstring:42:10: fatal error: 'bits/c++config.h' file not found
# [06:19] <njn> 0:01.15 #include <bits/c++config.h>
# [06:19] <jcranmer> well, I'm trying to catalogue more by "what systems are we liable to get a bug report filed if we break it"
# [06:20] <gaston> really used? probably only ppc
# [06:20] <njn> GCC works, though
# [06:23] <njn> clang fails to compile this, getting the same error:
# [06:23] <njn> #include <cstdlib>
# [06:23] <njn> int main(void) { return 0; }
# [06:23] <njn> ...
# [06:23] <njn> ug
# [06:23] <njn> ugh
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# [06:25] <khuey> njn: welcome back!
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# [06:25] <khuey> njn: how was vacation?
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# [06:28] <njn> khuey: excellent! thank you
# [06:28] <njn> khuey: it wouldn't be a proper Ubuntu update if something didn't break
# [06:29] <khuey> haha
# [06:29] <njn> khuey: I'm not laughing :(
# [06:31] <khuey> :-.
# [06:31] <khuey> er
# [06:31] <khuey> :-/
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# [06:33] <njn> khuey: a recent-ish trunk build of clang appears to work where 3.2 didn't
# [06:33] <njn> khuey: what did I miss?
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# [06:33] <njn> exact rooting appears to be finished
# [06:33] <njn> lazy bytecode landed, maybe not on yet?
# [06:34] <njn> we have a recent AWSY spike that I haven't seen a bug on, but I'm not finished with bugmail yet
# [06:34] <khuey> njn: not sure, i've been travelling for 3 weeks ;-)
# [06:34] <njn> khuey: fair enough
# [06:34] <njn> and now the trunk clang seg faults, sigh
# [06:34] <khuey> njn: but yeah some fun stuff has landed
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# [06:36] <njn> JM was removed, AFAICT
# [06:36] <johns> njn: 878062
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# [06:39] <njn> johns: excellent
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# [06:42] <njn> johns: though it looks like the do-less-TI change regressed the dark blue line at the same time it improved the light blue line
# [06:42] <njn> johns: though maybe it was a different change
# [06:43] <johns> njn: It looks like the culprit range is https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml?fromchange=42e458069da3d884542e5d67eca1133852335683&tochange=6e240d2c2ce8e66469b55a24a7ee87da01f28e37
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# [06:45] <njn> johns: as usual, the more you zoom, the less clear which change is the culprit :/
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# [06:46] <johns> njn: Make our memory usage more deterministic! :-P
# [06:46] <njn> johns: I'd love to
# [06:46] <njn> johns: I need AWSY diffs, first :P
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# [07:24] <RattyAway> Bug 556659 has a student-project keyword. Who would be a suitable mentor for this bug? Someone has expressed interest.
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# [09:07] <Mano> What's Alex Vincent nick?
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# [09:15] <@dolske> Mano: weirdal
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# [09:18] <Mano> thanks
# [09:18] <Mano> Error(406): weirdal There was no such nickname
# [09:18] <Mano> bah
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# [09:28] <Optimizer> WeirdAI
# [09:28] <Optimizer> ay-ai
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# [09:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4d420f0b48bb - Randell Jesup - Bug 876044: Change how getusermedia dropdowns are generated r=dolske a=akeybl
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# [10:24] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: http://www.quora.com/Who-Is-X/Who-is-Ms2ger
# [10:24] <Ms2ger> Yes, I'm aware
# [10:25] <edmorley> hehe
# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Good morning, edmorley
# [10:26] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning, how are you? :-)
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Good, good
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Preparing for an exam tomorrow
# [10:26] <Optimizer> who are you. Should be the question .
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# [10:26] <Ms2ger> Trying not to fall asleep
# [10:27] <Gijs> Interesting that Quora doesn't say who opened that question.
# [10:27] <Ms2ger> Gijs, the plot thickens...
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# [10:28] <Ms2ger> edmorley, and you? :)
# [10:28] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good hank you, lovely sunny morning here, not a cloud in sight :-)
# [10:28] <@smaug> quora requires login with fb or g account o_O
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# [10:29] <Ms2ger> edmorley, hah, we've got your clouds, then
# [10:29] <@smaug> hmm, not this time
# [10:29] <edmorley> Ms2ger: muhahaah
# [10:29] <Gijs> smaug: you used to be able to just register on the site, I think?
# [10:29] <Gijs> But it's possible that it's no longer open to the public for viewing without an account.
# [10:29] <@smaug> yeah, and they complained to me when I used some TesterFooBar as name
# [10:29] * Gijs isn't really a big fan of it anyway.
# [10:29] <Gijs> awww
# [10:29] <Gijs> they sound mean!
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# [10:32] <@smaug> Ms2ger: thanks for looking at that FocusEvent patch. I tend to assume that if I mention once that nsIFoo * is wrong, all the cases are fixed
# [10:32] <Ms2ger> I tend to avoid assumptions like that :)
# [10:32] <@smaug> yeah, my bad
# [10:33] <@smaug> we really need another automatic coding style checker. Ms2ger is occasionally not available.
# [10:33] <Ms2ger> jst? :)
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# [10:49] <Gijs> Huh, why is Fennec/Firefox for Android not in the wiki.m.o modules list? :s
# [10:49] <Gijs> Egh, find fail.
# [10:49] <Gijs> nevermind.
# [10:50] <NeilAway> smaug: I tend to write (3x) or some such to indicate that it needs fixing in additional places
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# [11:37] <Gijs> How do I convince crashtests to leave me a minidump?
# [11:38] * Gijs thought he'd found an MDN doc about this a while back, but google is letting him down. :(
# [11:38] <Ms2ger> Do you need a minidump or just a backtrace?
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# [11:40] <Gijs> Ms2ger: a backtrace would be enough.
# [11:41] <Gijs> Ms2ger: I've now got it to leave me a .dmp file, but neither XCode nor GDB seem to know how to deal with it. :\
# [11:41] <Ms2ger> ./mach crashtest --debugger=gdb
# [11:42] <Gijs> Ooh, fun. Thanks!
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# [11:56] <Yoric> Has something significant changed to the linking of libxul recently (on MacOS X)?
# [11:56] <Yoric> It's not a big deal, but lately, when I'm linking libxul, my computer slows down to a crawl.
# [11:56] <Ms2ger> The gtest stuff?
# [11:57] <Yoric> (well, I think that's linking – mach just displays "XUL")
# [11:57] <Yoric> Ms2ger: What's that?
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# [11:59] <Gijs> Yoric: it'll link libxul twice, once with tests, once without, AIUI
# [11:59] <Gijs> (although that's a very very very rough approximation, don't take my explanation for it if you want details)
# [11:59] <Yoric> And I guess both might be done in parallel if I have a -j8?
# [12:00] <Gijs> Ehm.
# [12:00] <Gijs> That doesn't sound like a good idea.
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# [12:00] <Gijs> I don't know enough about the build system to know if that's actually a possible explanation or not.
# [12:01] <Ms2ger> I think it isn't actually supposed to do the second link unless you do make check
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# [12:04] <Yoric> Ok, so that might not explain what happens to me.
# [12:04] <Yoric> As I mention, it's not a big deal anyway.
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# [12:07] <nrc> "Foxconn plans to hire 500 to 1,000 engineers in Kaohsiung in southern Taiwan to develop web-based software including Firefox, Foxconn general manager Young Liu said at a news conference in Taipei on Monday."
# [12:07] <nrc> woah!
# [12:07] <nrc> http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/06/03/foxconn-developing-firefox-devices/
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# [12:08] <Ms2ger> b2g, I guess
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# [12:10] <nrc> yeah, 500 engineers working on the mobile/web/b2g eco-system would be massive
# [12:10] <nrc> not clear how many would be software though
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# [12:25] <@roc> scaling up that number of engineers to work effectively with us and our other partners would be challenging.
# [12:25] <@roc> Work weeks in Asia from now until the end of time!
# [12:26] <Ms2ger> Nooo
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# [12:27] <@roc> Learning Mandarin is starting to look more and moreuseful
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# [12:28] <nrc> heh, I could get used to work weeks without the horrific jet lag
# [12:29] <Ms2ger> You're just transferring the jet lag to us :(
# [12:29] <nrc> "challenging", I think that might be an understatement :-)
# [12:29] <annevk> whoa, they're hiring an entire Mozilla
# [12:29] <@roc> that's one way to look at it :-)
# [12:29] <@roc> hmm
# [12:29] <@roc> maybe those engineers are us and we're all moving to Taiwan
# [12:29] <mattwoodrow> surprise!
# [12:30] <nrc> an entire Mozilla of engineers, nm all the other staff
# [12:30] <annevk> some of us maybe should if we're to work together
# [12:30] <Gijs> Is the software part actually true?
# [12:30] <annevk> or at least travel back and forth quite a bit
# [12:30] * Gijs assumed that to just be a WSJ slipup
# [12:31] <Ms2ger> annevk, liked Taiwan? :)
# [12:31] <nrc> well Taipei was nice, and I was wondering what the rest of Taiwan looked like...
# [12:31] <@roc> Gijs: I don't have any first-hand information but it sounds plausible
# [12:31] <Gijs> roc: well, I was under the impression foxconn mostly did hardware.
# [12:31] <annevk> Ms2ger: heh, haven't seen much, but we got a nice office
# [12:32] <Gijs> it sounds peculiar that they'd suddenly hire 500 software engineers out of the blue.
# [12:32] <Ms2ger> annevk, feel like relocating? :)
# [12:32] <@roc> Gijs: that part's not implausible.
# [12:32] <Ms2ger> Gijs, I especially wonder who those 500 people will end up being
# [12:32] <annevk> Ms2ger: I just did ;-)
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# [12:32] <nrc> I'm pretty sure Foxconn already employ a tonne of software folk for drivers etc.
# [12:33] <Gijs> I guess that'd make sense, yeah.
# [12:33] <@roc> I think it would make sense for Mozilla to send anyone who's willing to go to Taiwan as long as they want
# [12:33] <nrc> I'm not sure I could take more than a week of those breakfasts without exploding
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# [12:34] <@roc> I don't think you get to live in the hotel permanently
# [12:34] <Ms2ger> roc, how about NZ? :)
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# [12:34] <nrc> :-(
# [12:34] <Gijs> Yeah, NZ sounds more attractive than Taiwan to me, too...
# [12:34] <@roc> I bet they have some nice apartments though.
# [12:34] <nrc> Ms2ger we don't have 1000 new engineers in NZ
# [12:34] <Ms2ger> nrc, I bet you could find 1000 people who want to live in NZ...
# [12:35] <@roc> Ms2ger: you'd be surprised
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> Oh?
# [12:35] <@roc> a lot of people don't want to move that far.
# [12:35] <khuey> I wouldn't mind visiting NZ
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> Now, I wouldn't want to move there...
# [12:35] <@roc> right
# [12:35] <khuey> not sure how I'd feel living a 15 hour flight away from the US
# [12:35] <@roc> 12 hour
# [12:35] <nrc> well, we got bram to move, maybe there are another 999 around someplace...
# [12:35] <khuey> is it really only 12 hours?
# [12:35] <Ms2ger> Which side of the US?
# [12:35] <@roc> khuey: 12 hours to SF
# [12:35] <khuey> I guess .au is noticeably farther west
# [12:36] <@roc> and the flights are always on time.
# [12:36] <khuey> Ms2ger: the only side worth living on, of course :-P
# [12:36] <Ms2ger> khuey, Fla?
# [12:36] <khuey> Ms2ger: I left FL ...
# [12:36] <khuey> nrc: who is bram?
# [12:37] <@roc> I should talk Janet into us all going to Taiwan for a couple of months.
# [12:37] <khuey> lol
# [12:37] <nrc> khuey: webdev in the AKL office
# [12:37] <khuey> ah
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# [12:40] <@roc> Janet's Chinese and can read/write/speak Mandarin so it could work quite well
# [12:44] * till wouldn't mind some time in NZ, he guesses
# [12:44] * till isn't entirely sure about Taiwan
# [12:44] <khuey> I don't think many people would mind some time in NZ
# [12:44] * nrc has yet to see anyone actually materialise in NZ though
# [12:44] <@roc> we've had a few visitors
# [12:45] <nrc> oh except overholt
# [12:45] <khuey> nrc: finding an excuse to go there on Mozilla business is really hard ;-)
# [12:45] <@roc> yeah
# [12:45] <khuey> nrc: I've been looking for one for two years
# [12:45] <khuey> still haven't come close
# [12:45] <till> heh
# [12:46] <nrc> we keep talking about an AKL rendering work week, but I guess the office is too small :-(
# [12:46] <khuey> yeah i've been told the office is too small for work weeks of any size
# [12:46] <@roc> depends on what you mean by "any size"
# [12:47] <nrc> up to 20 people would work
# [12:47] <@roc> right
# [12:47] <khuey> hmm, 20
# [12:47] <khuey> we could probably fit the DOM team there
# [12:48] <khuey> if only anyone on the DOM team lived within 6000 miles of NZ
# [12:48] <Ms2ger> Hey roc, feel like doing some dom work?
# [12:48] <khuey> haha
# [12:48] <@roc> done that
# [12:49] <khuey> we've finally found a work week invitation Ms2ger won't pass up
# [12:49] <khuey> http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AKL-SFO,SFO-TPE
# [12:49] <khuey> that's really surprising to me
# [12:49] * khuey naively expected NZ to be farther
# [12:49] <khuey> by sa good amount
# [12:49] <Ms2ger> roc, actually, I do think you could find a lot of people who wouldn't mind moving to NZ
# [12:49] <@roc> yeah, we're really not that far away!
# [12:50] <Ms2ger> roc, maybe not Europeans, but, say, all of North Korea
# [12:50] <nthomas|away> thank you mr mercator
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# [12:50] <nrc> and we're 1000km closer to TPE than SFO
# [12:50] <nrc> that is alos kind of surprising
# [12:50] <nrc> *also
# [12:50] <nrc> I guess there are direct flights to SFO
# [12:50] <Ms2ger> http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=AKL-BRU%2CBRU-TPE&MS=wls&DU=mi
# [12:51] * KaiRo would be happy visiting NZ as well, but the flight from here is even longer
# [12:51] <Gijs> There's direct flights from HKG...
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# [12:52] <Gijs> (to NZ, that is)
# [12:52] <nrc> sounds like we should have had a summit in NZ....
# [12:52] <khuey> KaiRo: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=VIE-AKL ouch
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# [12:52] <@roc> Ms2ger: if you want to come out here for an internship or something, we could seriously look at that
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# [12:53] <nrc> Gijs: direct to HKG and SIN, but nowhere else in Asia, afaik
# [12:53] <KaiRo> khuey: yes, it's pretty much on the opposite side of this blue marble
# [12:53] <@roc> nrc: direct to KL, on?
# [12:53] <@roc> er no?
# [12:53] <annevk> khuey: that's the DOM team minus a bunch of people?
# [12:53] <Ms2ger> roc, maybe next year :)
# [12:54] <khuey> annevk: hmm?
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# [12:54] <nrc> roc: Air Asia used to, but I think they stopped
# [12:54] <khuey> annevk: oh I was assuming we'd leave all the WebAPI people behind
# [12:54] <khuey> annevk: and just take the actual DOM team ;-)
# [12:54] <Gijs> Air New Zealand flies HKG-AKL direct, according to Kayak.
# [12:54] <@roc> yeah we all just did that
# [12:54] <khuey> annevk: do you really think I want to go to NZ with mounir?
# [12:54] <annevk> khuey: fair
# [12:55] <nrc> and with Cathay Pacific, it turns out - if anyone ever gets the option of flying with Cathay rather than AirNZ, don't/
# [12:55] <khuey> KaiRo: madagascar is the only thing I can find that's comparably far away from SFO
# [12:56] <Ms2ger> khuey, and it's closed its ports
# [12:56] <khuey> Ms2ger: huh?
# [12:56] <annevk> roc: that pnacl thing is sad btw :( need to harass some people about that
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# [12:57] <@roc> I thought I already did :-)
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> khuey, not into Pandemic?
# [12:57] <khuey> oh
# [12:57] <khuey> :-P
# [12:57] <@roc> that
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> It's the only thing I know about Madagascar
# [12:57] <@roc> 's a good reason to come to New Zealand --- escape armageddon
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# [12:58] <KaiRo> khuey: I totally believe that
# [12:58] <nrc> not if everyone brings back bird flu from Taiwan
# [12:58] <khuey> KaiRo: http://www.antipodr.com/?addr=94117&x=0&y=0
# [12:58] <annevk> roc: dude, Mordor
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# [12:59] <@roc> annevk: not sure what you mean
# [12:59] <khuey> KaiRo: vs. http://www.antipodr.com/?addr=auckland&x=0&y=0
# [12:59] <@roc> annevk: ok, if armageddon is caused by one of our supervolcanoes going off, we don't escape THAT
# [12:59] <annevk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mount_Doom.jpg
# [12:59] <khuey> so gibraltar is basically on the exact opposite side of the planet from AKL
# [12:59] <@roc> but it probably own't.
# [13:00] <Ms2ger> More likely to be Yellowstone
# [13:00] <khuey> shh we don't like to talk about that
# [13:01] <nrc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_volcanic_field
# [13:01] * nrc prefers earthquakes
# [13:01] <Ms2ger> Goes off every, what, 60000 years and it's 60000 years ago?
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# [13:01] <khuey> nrc: should have stayed in taiwan longer
# [13:02] <nrc> khuey: did you get a quake last week?
# [13:02] <annevk> nrc: heh, on the page of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pupuke which is listed as ~200000 year old it talks about the "old pumphouse"
# [13:02] <khuey> nrc: there was one hte other day
# [13:02] <khuey> nrc: I had left by that point though
# [13:04] <nrc> don't worry, I'm sure you'll get on in SF soon enough
# [13:04] <nrc> *one
# [13:04] <@roc> Auckland is not a supervolcano
# [13:04] <khuey> nrc: I actually missed one in California while I was in .tw
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# [13:05] <@roc> but we have several others. Taupo's not quite as big as Yellowstone but it goes off more often.
# [13:05] <nrc> knuey, oh yeah, a big one in tpe
# [13:05] <nrc> *khuey (I can't type tonight)
# [13:05] <khuey> 6.5 is pretty big by CA standards
# [13:06] <khuey> idk about asian standards
# [13:06] <khuey> Japan probably wouldn't get out of bed for it
# [13:06] <nrc> roc: but we haven't built our largest city on top of Taupo
# [13:06] <Optimizer> 6.5 is big
# [13:06] <Optimizer> if not huge
# [13:06] <@roc> nrc: the destruction of Auckland and the disruption of human civilization around the globe are two different things
# [13:07] <nrc> true
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# [13:08] <nrc> although, if you are living in Auckland at the time, the difference is probably not your biggest worry
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# [13:08] <khuey> Optimizer: it's about 500 times less strong than the earthquake that hit japan in 2011
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# [13:09] <@roc> Wikipedia suggests that the Taupo eruption 26,500 years ago was about as big as Yellowstone's most recent big one (640,000 years ago) ... 1000 km^3 of ejecta
# [13:09] <khuey> Optimizer: actually 5000, not 500
# [13:09] <Optimizer> khuey: when a table in your concrete house stars wbbling, you don't really care about times then
# [13:09] <Ms2ger> OH: "The Mozilla Paris office is ridiculous."
# [13:10] <Optimizer> wobbling*
# [13:10] <khuey> Optimizer: you care when your country is not levelled and hit by a giant tsunami that kills thousands of people
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# [13:10] <khuey> Ms2ger: so I've been told
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# [13:10] <Optimizer> khuey: what is the point here ?
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# [13:10] <khuey> Optimizer: I'm not sure there is one ...
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# [13:10] <khuey> anyways
# [13:11] <Optimizer> khuey: but I do not disagree with what you say .. so ..
# [13:11] <khuey> I think it's time to try to get a couple more hours of sleep
# [13:11] <khuey> Optimizer: :-D
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# [13:11] <nrc> 1000 km^3 of ejecta?! That is a lot!
# [13:12] <Ms2ger> All in one block?
# [13:12] <darktrojan> minecraft volcano?
# [13:12] <Ms2ger> khuey|away, mtg?
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# [13:14] <@roc> yes. That is a lot.
# [13:14] <@roc> "Tephra from the eruption covered much of the central North Island with ignimbrite up to 200 metres (660 ft) deep."
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# [13:14] <@roc> you shouldn't get me started on volcanoes, really.
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# [13:21] <@roc> shelly: do these patches actually work?
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# [13:22] <shelly> roc, I'm about to find that out
# [13:22] <@roc> :-)
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# [13:23] <shelly> roc, And I just left my comments about delaying the initialization of encoders
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# [13:28] <Ms2ger> roc, it's not too hard to get you started ;)
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# [13:28] <@roc> depends on the topic :-)
# [13:29] <Ms2ger> The V-word
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# [13:30] <@roc> the new Google Maps WebGL Google-Earthy thing is amazing
# [13:30] <Optimizer> too many bugs right now though
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# [13:30] <@roc> eh
# [13:30] <@roc> ?
# [13:30] <@roc> works well for me
# [13:30] <Optimizer> yeah, try the directions
# [13:30] <Optimizer> its pretty buggy right now .
# [13:30] <Optimizer> (I meant the whole maps as a whole is buggy)
# [13:31] <Optimizer> also, coming in and out of the space view makes certain countries get night time
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# [13:37] <@roc> directions seem to work OK for me
# [13:37] <@roc> only 3hr 17min to Lake Taupo!
# [13:37] * Ms2ger imagines roc signing off and jumping into a car to go there
# [13:38] <@roc> it doesn't have the cool Google Earth trip-animation feature
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# [13:58] <edmorley> oh for crying out loud
# [13:58] <edmorley> the inbound tbpl tab got stuck loading again so was saying 0 failures; upon refresh 200+
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# [13:59] <Ms2ger> Surprise!
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# [14:00] <edmorley> it's just annoying since I rely on the apptab changing colour to know to check it
# [14:00] <annevk> fwiw: http://annevankesteren.nl/2013/06/london-tag (not comprehensive)
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# [14:01] <Ms2ger> Playing tag in London?
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# [14:01] <Ms2ger> Oh, TAG
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# [14:01] <darktrojan> <london>
# [14:02] <annevk> all of those
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# [14:06] <Ms2ger> This roc guy sounds dangerous
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# [14:08] <@roc> I kinda have a bad feeling about JSIDL
# [14:08] <annevk> yehuda keeps bz and heycam in the loop
# [14:08] <@roc> are we supposed to rewrite everything in JSIDL now?
# [14:08] <annevk> and actual semantic changes he'll try to get through Web IDL first
# [14:08] <Ms2ger> It's just complaints about syntax, afaict
# [14:09] <annevk> long term, but that'd be mostly machine translatable
# [14:09] <annevk> Ms2ger: not really, it's mostly about the model, syntax is second
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# [14:09] <Ms2ger> Has he ever explained what's wrong with webidl?
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# [14:11] <till> I, for one, welcome our new JSIDL overlords
# [14:11] <till> Which, given that I did the self-hosting stuff, is probably somewhat obvious
# [14:11] <Ms2ger> I think you're missing a few points, then
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# [14:12] <till> Enlighten me!
# [14:12] <Ms2ger> Well, what do you think JSIDL is, and what benefits do you think it brings?
# [14:12] <annevk> Ms2ger: IDL values is something we shouldn't have as a platform concept
# [14:13] <annevk> Ms2ger: is the basic problem
# [14:13] <Ms2ger> annevk, I'm not convinced that is actually true
# [14:13] <annevk> Ms2ger: on top of that it's syntax and default semantics (idiomatic JavaScript)
# [14:13] <annevk> Ms2ger: JSIDL doesn't require you to, it'll just be the case :p
# [14:13] <Ms2ger> If it happens
# [14:14] <till> I very much like the idea of specifying all capabilities of the web platform in the platform's technologies, themselves
# [14:14] <till> Which I understand JSIDL to bring to the table
# [14:14] <@roc> I feel bad that we've invested a lot in getting spec authors and browser implementors to use and support WebIDL and somewhere in the middle of that we're now saying we should throw all that away and do something else
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# [14:15] <tbsaunde> what is jsidl? writing idl in or something?
# [14:15] <annevk> roc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs
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# [14:15] <tbsaunde> s/in/in js/
# [14:16] <annevk> roc: though mostly, we learned a lot about the platform when converting to Web IDL
# [14:16] <Ms2ger> A half-baked idea that will improve "idiomatic javascript" and things like that
# [14:16] <annevk> roc: any future conversion should be much less costly
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# [14:16] <Ms2ger> It seems that some people just want to blame WebIDL for all weird APIs in the platform
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# [14:16] <@roc> teaching people to use WebIDL is not a sunk cost
# [14:16] <annevk> They blame WebIDL for enabling it
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> Whatever they replace it with will need to enable it as well
# [14:17] <Ms2ger> And mostly those APIs were written in OMGIDL, not WebIDL
# [14:17] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: adding "idiomatic java script" sounds bad already ;)
# [14:18] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, yeah, it's just a term some people like to use to force their ideas on others, afaict
# [14:18] <@roc> people have become familiar with WebIDL. Browsers have implemented WebIDL. Retraining and reimplementing them incurs costs that WebIDL does not have.
# [14:18] <@roc> by people I mean spec authors
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# [14:18] <annevk> roc: I think far more people will be familiar with syntax that's pretty much JS than IDL; and we should prefer those people over spec weenies
# [14:19] <@roc> what people are you talking about? Web authors? We all know they don't look at specs
# [14:19] <Ms2ger> Is that on the assumption that authors read specs?
# [14:19] <annevk> there's certainly a subset that does
# [14:20] <Ms2ger> And it's WebIDL that holds them back?
# [14:21] <@roc> the subset that does is probably the clueful subset that can grok WebIDL easily
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# [14:22] <@roc> anyway, if you convince bz it's a good idea and he says we can mechanically convert all our WebIDL bindings to JSIDL then I guess that's fine
# [14:22] <annevk> roc: some subset couldn't which is in part why this started; the other reason as I mentioned earlier is making JS the value space rather than some IDL concepts
# [14:23] <Ms2ger> So what does that actually mean?
# [14:23] <Ms2ger> You make all the integers "number" and then move all the conversions into prose?
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# [14:24] <@roc> our WebIDL objects are implemented in C++, not JS. WebIDL is a nice way to express an efficient mapping from JS to C++.
# [14:24] <@roc> Web authors may not like having to think about that, but too bad, it's important.
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# [14:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87542077c82c - Ed Morley - Bug 850181 - Skip conformance/textures/texture-mips.html on Ubuntu VMs since they intermittently pass and fail in equal measure
# [14:26] <annevk> I know how Gecko/Chrome/... deal with Web IDL and Yehuda does too.
# [14:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/189b50c8abdf - Ed Morley - Bug 774689 - Mark 632781-verybig.html fails-if on WinXP for too many intermittent failures
# [14:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fc06b7fa44d - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 8c37f4a3e488 (bug 874407) for failures in test_bug549192.xul
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# [14:26] <annevk> Back in a bit.
# [14:26] <@roc> I won't be :-)
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# [14:27] <@roc> I'm not looking forward to a transition period where a lot of specs are written in some version of WebIDL and a lot of other specs are written in some version of JSIDL :-(
# [14:28] <annevk> roc: ah shit. Hmm. So fwiw, this discussion is not closed and JSIDL is not at all ready. I don't think it's worth it to oppose it when it's not ready yet and we should evaluate it more when it's closer to being ready.
# [14:28] <@roc> that's fair.
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# [14:29] <annevk> roc: also, the idea is that there won't be a semantic gap between JSIDL and WebIDL so that if that becomes the case you can reason about the specs somewhat sanely still. Although hopefully that'll be a short time period.
# [14:29] <@roc> rather than oppose it, "wait and see" might be a good attitude :-)
# [14:29] <annevk> (Getting more specs to be living standards would be great...)
# [14:29] <annevk> okay, people are yelling at me now
# [14:29] <Ms2ger> And let's stop telling people that they should try to kill WebIDL in the meantime
# [14:30] <@roc> if it means heycam can stop working on WebIDL, that'll be a plus, I suppose :-)
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# [14:31] <Ms2ger> Maybe we can get SVG interfaces specced well, then :)
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# [14:33] <@roc> with Erik Dahlstrom being sucked deeper into the Opera vortex, Cameron is likely to become sole chair :-(
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# [14:34] <Ms2ger> roc, move SVG to the WHATWG, then we don't need any chairs ;)
# [14:34] <Ms2ger> Or hire Erik
# [14:34] <@roc> I'm always torn between wishing other companies would do more to pull their weight in standards groups, and not trusting them if they do
# [14:34] <@roc> query Ms2ger
# [14:34] <@roc> oops
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# [14:35] <@roc> time to go
# [14:36] <Ms2ger> Good night
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# [14:45] <khuey> Ms2ger: there's a moco meeting today
# [14:45] <khuey> Ms2ger: so no
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# [14:48] <khuey> oh god jsidl
# [14:49] <Ms2ger> :D
# [14:49] <Ms2ger> Clearly I should get moco meetings into my calendar
# [14:49] <@smaug> jsidl?
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# [14:50] <Ms2ger> Don't ask
# [14:50] <firebot> Check-in:
# [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c263ecf2beb - Jim Mathies - Bug 878208 - Fix: Firefox does not receive the first command line parameter handed to it from metrotestharness, plus some output improvements in the harness. r=bbondy
# [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bff277e306c - Michael Harrison - Bug 772153 - Add support for unprefixed cursor:zoom-in/out. r=bz
# [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c07231373d6b - Marcos A. Di Pietro - Bug 877985 - Expose node_parent_of relation via accNavigate. r=surkov
# [14:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c95dfb83024 - Raymond Lee - Bug 852581 - Add methods to get the default downloads directories. r=paolo
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# [14:51] <khuey> Ms2ger: I doubt we publish that information externally :-/
# [14:51] <Ms2ger> "All times are based on an implementation in FORTRAN G on an IBM System 360 Model 65."
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# [14:51] <Ms2ger> khuey, it's not deterministic?
# [14:52] <khuey> Ms2ger: no, it's sometimes moved to accomdate schedules of the C level folks
# [14:52] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [14:52] <khuey> Ms2ger: though it's generally the first monday
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# [14:52] <khuey> we've definitely done it on second mondays before
# [14:53] <khuey> I think one time we even did it on the second wednesday
# [14:53] <khuey> iirc that was to coincide with the announcement that gary would leave
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# [14:55] <khuey> hmm I'm supposed to be on vacation today
# [14:55] <@bz> khuey: what's wrong with jsidl?
# [14:56] <khuey> bz: I don't know what it is, for starters? ;-)
# [14:56] <khuey> bz: I'm just a skeptic
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# [14:57] <@bz> khuey: ah
# [14:57] <@bz> khuey: fair
# [14:57] <@bz> khuey: What it _is_ is a bit amorphous
# [14:57] <@bz> khuey: I think the stated goal is a better syntax and semantics
# [14:57] <@bz> khuey: in the end mapping to the same data model as now
# [14:58] <@bz> khuey: Unclear how that fits with "better semantics"
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# [14:58] <@bz> khuey: Another stated goal is moving closer to not letting spec writers shoot themselves in the foot
# [14:58] <khuey> yeah if we just have to twiddle the parser grammar I don't really care
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# [14:58] <@bz> khuey: e.g. putting named getter crap in the "deprecated" section so people don't use it willy nilly
# [14:58] <@bz> Right
# [14:59] <@bz> I suspect there will be a bit more to it than that
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# [14:59] <@bz> But I'm not sure how much more
# [15:00] <@ted> what's one idl more or less
# [15:00] <@ted> khuey: are you in CA and just very jetlagged?
# [15:00] <Ms2ger> ted, yes
# [15:01] <khuey> ted: yeah :-/
# [15:01] <khuey> ted: though I'm supposed to be taking memorial day today
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# [15:02] <@ted> heh
# [15:02] <@ted> well good luck with that i guess
# [15:03] <@bz> khuey: go take the day off
# [15:03] <@bz> khuey: Then tomorrow do reviews? ;)
# [15:03] <khuey> bz: you're as bad as bent :-P
# [15:03] <@bz> khuey: ;)
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# [15:03] <@bz> khuey: no mtg today, right?
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# [15:03] <khuey> I wrote something on facebook about being back in the US and bent wrote "time to do reviews!"
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# [15:03] <khuey> bz: yeah, due to moco
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> khuey, is bent going to do reviews?
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# [15:04] <Ms2ger> Because I'd like that...
# [15:04] <khuey> Ms2ger: what do you think?
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> I think "no"
# [15:04] <khuey> everyone knows bent is too cool for reviews
# [15:04] <khuey> though he did my review at some point while I was in .tw
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> Though I did get one within a week recently
# [15:04] <khuey> that was nice
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# [15:04] * khuey should check that patch in this week
# [15:04] <Ms2ger> I think that just means the other will take half a year
# [15:05] <khuey> bz: yeah, I'm going to take today off, it's just too early to go run errands
# [15:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/742dbd5e76fe - Ed Morley - Bug 774689 - Mark 632781-verybig.html random-if on WinXP for too many intermittent failures DONTBUILD
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# [15:08] <@bz> annevk: ping
# [15:09] <Ms2ger> He went out for lunch
# [15:09] <Ms2ger> 40 minutes ago
# [15:09] <@bz> ok
# [15:09] <@bz> should be back now!
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# [15:10] <Ms2ger> And apparently Foxconn is hiring another Mozilla to work on b2g, if you hadn't heard
# [15:10] <Yoric> Hiring another Mozilla?
# [15:10] <Yoric> That sounds interesting, but what does that mean?
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# [15:11] <khuey> Ms2ger: it's worth noting that that said "Firefox OS and other web something or other"
# [15:11] <darktrojan> giant chinese lizards
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# [15:11] <khuey> I really doubt they're hiring 500 people to work on b2g
# [15:11] <khuey> or at least, on upstream b2g
# [15:11] <khuey> maybe they'll customize stuff or something
# [15:11] <darktrojan> I assumed they meant firefox os phones
# [15:12] <Ms2ger> Yoric, I heard 500-1000 software people
# [15:12] <Ms2ger> Not sure what that'll come down to
# [15:12] <darktrojan> !
# [15:12] <Yoric> wow
# [15:12] <Yoric> That's huge.
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# [15:13] <darktrojan> that's a smaller proportion of their population than mozilla in nz
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# [15:13] <Six> Ms2ger: Hi
# [15:13] <Ms2ger> Hi!
# [15:13] <Six> i just saw your comment
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# [15:13] <Six> there is a type
# [15:14] <Six> i was saying NS_IMETHOD_(void) or _(bool)
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# [15:14] <Six> not NS_IMETHOD(void)
# [15:14] <Ms2ger> Well
# [15:14] <khuey> darktrojan: are you sure? Taiwan's population is only 23 millionish
# [15:14] <Ms2ger> I was asking why you're adding NS_IMETHOD_
# [15:14] <khuey> NZ is 4 or something?
# [15:14] <Six> as you said we should mark them as virtual
# [15:14] <khuey> so that's only a ratio of 6
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# [15:14] <khuey> 500/6 is definitely > than Mozilla in NZ
# [15:14] <darktrojan> oh I assumed mainland china
# [15:14] <Ms2ger> Oh
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# [15:15] <Six> from what i saw, NS_IMETHOD was used for this no?
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> I meant 'virtual bool'
# [15:15] <khuey> darktrojan: no, Foxconn is a Taiwanese company
# [15:15] <Six> yep
# [15:15] <darktrojan> TIL
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> NS_IMETHOD actually means something else on windows
# [15:15] <khuey> and apparently that's where they do software
# [15:15] <Six> NS_IMETHOD_(bool) doesn't do it correctly?
# [15:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f1a215b86459 - Aaron Klotz - Bug 744836 - Modify nsTimerEvent to hold its timer reference until the nsTimerEvent itself is destroyed. r=bsmedberg, r=ehsan, a=akeybl
# [15:15] <Ms2ger> No
# [15:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4b37c7c640d7 - Brian Hackett - Bug 876458 - Fix MUnbox::congruentTo. r=jandem, a=akeybl
# [15:15] <Six> ok my bad...
# [15:16] <Six> didn't see the windows special case
# [15:17] <Ms2ger> Okay
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# [15:17] <Ms2ger> I thought you'd seen something I'd missed
# [15:18] <Six> on windows NS_IMETHOD adds __stdcall right?
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# [15:18] <Ms2ger> Six, Yes
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# [15:19] <Six> ok i update the patch right now
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# [15:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed0935b6ec1a - Lucas Rocha - Bug 877140 - Add duration getter to PropertyAnimator (r=mfinkle)
# [15:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aca1f06739e5 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 877140 - Fix type of constructor argument for duration (r=mfinkle)
# [15:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55a08c564f74 - Lucas Rocha - Bug 877140 - Fade in toolbar buttons while hiding tabs tray (r=mfinkle)
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# [15:31] <RattyAway> Anyone use VS2010?
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# [15:31] <RattyAway> when I run make package (Thunderbird) I get:
# [15:31] <RattyAway> Error: c:\t1\hg\objdir-tb\mail\installer\package-manifest:40: Missing file(s): bin/msvcp100.dll
# [15:31] <RattyAway> Error: c:\t1\hg\objdir-tb\mail\installer\package-manifest:41: Missing file(s): bin/msvcr100.dll
# [15:31] <Six> Ms2ger: i'm sorry i didn't saw your last comment i was uploading the patch...
# [15:31] <Six> Ms2ger: but what r=me means?
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# [15:32] <RattyAway> Strangely using the exact same toolchain I can package SeaMonkey with no problems
# [15:32] <Ms2ger> Six, that I reviewed it
# [15:32] <@ted> RattyAway: do you have WIN32_REDIST_DIR set?
# [15:32] <@ted> those are the CRT DLLs, they need to get copied from the VC redist dir
# [15:32] <Six> Ms2ger: but where should i put it?
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# [15:32] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [15:32] <RattyAway> ted: how do I tell?
# [15:32] <Ms2ger> Commit message?
# [15:33] <@ted> RattyAway: if you haven't set it in your mozconfig, then you don't
# [15:33] <Six> okay gotcha wasn't pretty sure about that thanks :)
# [15:33] <@ted> RattyAway: the only difference is probably thunderbird setting the "error on packager errors" setting
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# [15:34] <RattyAway> ted: ok I've got WIN32_REDIST_DIR in SeaMonkey Makefile.in but not in TB
# [15:34] <Six> Ms2ger: ok you say instead of r?you r=you
# [15:34] <RattyAway> ted: actually SM has had warnings as errors on package longer than TB.
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# [15:35] <@ted> RattyAway: interesting
# [15:35] <@ted> hah
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# [15:37] <RattyAway> ted: actually I'm not sure if TB *has* warnings as errors. I heard it being discussed in the maildev channel but don't know if they did
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# [15:40] <RattyAway> ted: ah this bit is the difference TB doesn't have:
# [15:40] <RattyAway> # Set MSVC dlls version to package, if any.
# [15:40] <RattyAway> ifdef WIN32_REDIST_DIR
# [15:40] <RattyAway> DEFINES += -DMOZ_MSVC_REDIST=$(_MSC_VER)
# [15:40] <RattyAway> endif
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# [15:41] <@ted> lame
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# [15:58] <RealRaven> Whjen I am passing in nsIScriptError when I log an error (because I want to see a warning icon) thyye show up as "content"
# [15:58] <RealRaven> has it something to do with setting Category?
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# [15:59] <RealRaven> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIScriptError#Categories
# [15:59] <RealRaven> ?
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# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1fbdc5adccbe - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 877728 - Convert some CSS rects passed to Java from gfx::Rect to CSSRect. r=BenWa
# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0fb17e872ea - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 877728 - Convert the scroll offset out-param to SyncViewportInfo from nsIntPoint to ScreenPoint. r=BenWa
# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3591c9f16fd - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 877728 - Convert a couple of nsInt* variables to LayerInt*. r=BenWa
# [16:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8cd81a2186b - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 877728 - Convert the page rect passed to SetFirstPaintViewport to LayerIntRect. r=BenWa
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# [16:05] <Gijs> RealRaven: I'm not sure, but if nobody answers here it's possible someone in #devtools may know more.
# [16:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f65c0c7ee67d - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 878204 - add moznetwork to test package, r=jhammel
# [16:05] <RealRaven> ok.
# [16:05] <RealRaven> Gijs: My guess is that Phil Chee might now :)
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# [16:25] <till> joe: ping
# [16:25] <Ms2ger> kats, yt?
# [16:25] <joe> till: hi
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# [16:28] <till> joe: hey, did my last comment in bug 876499 give you the info you need, or is there anything else I can do to help?
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# [16:28] <joe> till: there's very likely more you can do to help! but I will need to look into it
# [16:28] <joe> till: i'm still going through bugmail etc
# [16:29] <till> joe: ok, cool. Just saw the resolve duplicate
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# [16:32] <@bsmedberg> Does anyone know if stylish is broken in nightly?
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# [16:32] <kats> Ms2ger: ?
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# [16:33] <ferongr> khuey, remember out talk on mega indexedDB storage use 2-3 days ago? I filed evangelism bug 878713 on it
# [16:33] <Ms2ger> kats, do we have a type for integer CSS pixel points already?
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# [16:33] <khuey> ferongr: cool, thanks
# [16:33] <ferongr> make of it what you will
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# [16:33] <kats> Ms2ger: no, not yet. you can add a CSSIntPoint to layout/base/Units.h if you want it
# [16:34] <kats> if not i'll probably add it as I convert more things
# [16:34] <Ms2ger> Okay, I'll see
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# [16:36] <joe> till: so mAnim->currentAnimationFrameTime was not changing during calls to AdvanceFrame?
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# [16:38] <till> joe: note, though, that this particular case did not end up ilooping, after all. It just took a long time to recover by whatever means.
# [16:38] <joe> till: yeah
# [16:38] <joe> till: if you can reproduce it i'd love to step through it with you
# [16:39] <till> joe: ok, will try now
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# [16:53] <Yoric> gozala: Please don't forget that I'm waiting for your review on bug 872421.
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# [16:58] <@ehsan> I cannot overstate how much I hate bugzilla's interdiff :(
# [16:58] <glob> ehsan, fwiw i hate it too
# [16:58] <davidb> does it ever work?
# [16:58] <@ehsan> I have had it work before
# [16:58] <davidb> actually i recall the same
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> I've heard claims of it working
# [16:58] <glob> if it were perl code, it would be easier for me to fix
# [16:58] <@ehsan> but the biggest problem with it is that it's not always clear if it does work
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# [16:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2ff8cbefdf10 - Joe Drew - Bug 878062 - Don't call TryOptimizeToImageLayer if we are definitely not going to optimize to an image layer, since it uses lots of memory. r=mattwoodrow
# [16:58] <glob> it's just a wrapper around patchutils' interdiff
# [16:58] <@ehsan> so you need to interdiff in your head and then verify :(
# [16:59] <davidb> right no trust
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# [16:59] <glob> ehsan, if you hit that problem, please file a bug
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# [16:59] <@ehsan> glob: which problem?
# [16:59] <glob> ehsan, a while ago i changed it to report if there were problems with interdiff
# [16:59] <joe> till: i will be afk for about 45 minutes
# [16:59] <@ehsan> glob: well, that message sometimes appears, but the interdiff seems correct
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# [17:00] <@ehsan> and othertimes it has no clue what's going on in those patches
# [17:00] <glob> ehsan, if you see that message, then it isn't correct
# [17:00] <@ehsan> not sure if I can convert this into a usable bug...
# [17:00] <till> joe: ok. Given how I can't reproduce at all right now, it might just take me that long to get this in the debugger again ...
# [17:00] <glob> ehsan, it's possible that some hunks worked ok, and interdiff is just dropped others that it got confused by
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# [17:00] <@ehsan> yeah exactly
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# [17:01] <glob> ehsan, but, we're working on ways to address that
# [17:01] <@ehsan> glob: cool
# [17:01] <tbsaunde> glob: do I have to do something special to get small patches I'm supposed to review in the email? because I certainly don't seem to be getting them
# [17:01] <@ehsan> glob: oh, and while speaking of things I hate in bugzilla, splinter's side by side diffs are probably the #2 most annoying thing ever :(
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# [17:02] <glob> tbsaunde, that feature was in for a short time, but caused quite a few issues
# [17:02] <glob> tbsaunde, we haven't had the time to come back around to fixing it up
# [17:02] <tbsaunde> glob: oh :(
# [17:02] <glob> (as it requires a large change to how bugzilla generates bugmail)
# [17:02] <tbsaunde> glob: k, just would be really nice
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# [17:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb0aad61db4f - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 70cf9c347db6 (bug 509719) for crashtest orange
# [17:07] <mib_fbco2f> Has anyone had problems with fennec on android? I installed it and when I open a web page the links do not redirect. And if I make a plugin with a MenuItem which simply redirects to Google, the page loads but then goes blank and the browser freezes. I really need to work with nightly because I'm trying getUserMedia () and everything works great, but I need
# [17:08] <Gijs> edmorley: sorry. :(
# [17:08] <edmorley> np
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# [17:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92b8261c3f6e - Ben Turner - Bug 877952 - 'IndexedDB upgrade should proceed even when file manager directories are not present'. r=janv.
# [17:17] <mib_fbco2f> Do you have no problems with fennec or do you didn't use it?
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# [17:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8cfe163b77d - Marco Bonardo - Bug 874407 - new visits are inserted incorrectly in the Library and the sidebar treeviews.
# [17:21] <Ms2ger> gaston, remember me who does FreeBSD?
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# [17:21] <gaston> jan beich
# [17:21] <Ms2ger> Thanks
# [17:22] <gaston> jbeich on irc something@tormail.org in bugzilla
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# [17:22] <Ms2ger> Yeah, bugzilla found him :)
# [17:22] <gaston> or flo@freebsd.org for the port maintainer
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# [17:27] <hdelassus> hi, how can we run xpcom compiled-code tests ?
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# [17:27] <Ms2ger> make check
# [17:28] <hdelassus> yeah we read this on the developers' wiki
# [17:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/452238270a68 - Marco Zehe - Bug 877655 - Provide tests for state utterances in AccessFu, r=yzen
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# [17:29] <hdelassus> but it seems the Makefile does not have a target "check" ?!
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# [17:29] <Ms2ger> Try from the objdir
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# [17:31] <hdelassus> roger that
# [17:31] <hdelassus> thanks
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# [17:36] <Ms2ger> vlad, why'd you clear the target milestone of bug 604039?
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# [17:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd02958ae436 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 874888 - Update privacy policy link URL on about:rights for Fennec. r=wesj
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# [17:39] <reyre> anyone know why in this code http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2481309 trackList is returning as '[]' when the pref is set to false
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# [17:40] <Ms2ger> bz would know when pref changes take effect
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# [17:42] <reyre> bz: ? :) ^
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# [17:46] <@bz> reyre: the pref is checked when the relevant prototype object is created
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# [17:47] <@bz> reyre: That said, is trackList ending up empty, or undefined?
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# [17:47] <@bz> reyre: as in, what are you expecting the pref to affect, exactly?
# [17:47] <reyre> bz: returns as '[]' which i believe means an empty array
# [17:47] <reyre> i'm expecting undefined
# [17:47] <@bz> reyre: which patch is this testing?
# [17:47] <reyre> well, i don't know what is acceptable to be returned here... if we test without the pref enabled up top we will get undefined
# [17:47] <@bz> reyre: right
# [17:47] <reyre> bz: bug 833385
# [17:48] <@bz> reyre: if you don't enable the pref, you should get undefined
# [17:48] <reyre> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/833385
# [17:48] <reyre> yea
# [17:48] * @bz looks at the patch
# [17:48] <@bz> + [Pref="media.webvtt.enabled"]
# [17:48] <@bz> + readonly attribute TextTrackList textTracks;
# [17:48] <@bz> Alright
# [17:48] <@bz> so with the pref off you should get undefined
# [17:48] <reyre> yeah
# [17:48] <@bz> with the pref _on_ you should get a TextTrackList object
# [17:48] <@bz> right?
# [17:48] <reyre> yep
# [17:48] <@bz> Not [], which is a JS array
# [17:48] <@bz> OK
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# [17:48] <@bz> So what's not working? ;)
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# [17:49] <@bz> As in, which is the first test assertion that fails?
# [17:50] <@bz> And what does the "pref is set to false" bit have to do with this?
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# [17:50] <reyre> bz: so here http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2481309 in the code where we test while the pref is false we will get '[]', however, if we remove the test that checks underneath the pref being true, it will return undefined
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# [17:50] <reyre> we want to be able to test with the pref on and off in the same file
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# [17:50] <@bz> Oh
# [17:50] <reyre> and it seems like whatever pref we test underneath first will mess up the seoncd test
# [17:50] <@bz> Well
# [17:50] <@bz> No
# [17:50] <@bz> you can't do that
# [17:50] <@bz> we do NOT disappear properties off prototypes
# [17:50] <reyre> alright, i thought so! :)
# [17:51] <@bz> Or add them dynamically
# [17:51] <@bz> so the prototype object is what it is at the point when you create it
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# [17:51] <@bz> with whatever the pref value is at that point
# [17:51] <@bz> if you want to do it this way, use subframes
# [17:51] <@bz> which you create when the pref value is whatever you want
# [17:51] <@bz> They get their own prototype objects, etc
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# [17:52] <reyre> bz: so even if we create a new object of the same type underneath both pref 'settings' it will still be messed up?
# [17:52] <reyre> unless subframes
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# [17:55] <Ms2ger> reyre, there is one prototype per window
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# [17:55] <Ms2ger> reyre, so new objects don't change anything
# [17:55] <@bz> Right
# [17:56] <reyre> Ms2ger: ah alright
# [17:56] <reyre> okay thanks bz Ms2ger
# [17:56] <@bz> the properties are on HTMLMediaElement.prototype
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> Np
# [17:56] <reyre> i've been banging my head against this for a while..
# [17:56] <@bz> What matters is the pref value when HTMLMediaElement.prototype is created
# [17:56] <Ms2ger> bz, (which is lazy, I guess? That somehow feels strange)
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# [18:27] <vlad> Ms2ger: because it's not actually done for fx22; it got disabled
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# [18:28] <vlad> Ms2ger: so there's confusion around when it went in, e.g. marketing/PR looks at target milestone to see what they should highlight for releases
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# [18:29] <@bz> vlad: we should have changed the TM when it got disabled....
# [18:29] <vlad> bz: I agree.. didn't, though :/
# [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: prototype creation is lazy, yes
# [18:29] <@bz> Ms2ger: to avoid the suck.
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# [18:30] <@bz> Ms2ger: (the suck of definining umpteeen bajillion properties on hundreds of objects via the slow-ass paths C++ gets to work with)
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# [18:42] <Brijesh> Hi
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# [18:42] <Brijesh> Hi anyone there
# [18:43] <Mossop> Lots of people are here
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# [18:43] <Optimizer> Which version of Fx started supporting [a for (a of b)] spreading ?
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# [18:43] <Optimizer> (or in general, what is this feature called, so that I can see if chrome supports it too , or is it Fx only)
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# [18:45] <@bz> Optimizer: for..of loops?
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# [18:45] <Optimizer> no
# [18:45] <@bz> Optimizer: or generator expressions?
# [18:45] <Optimizer> the expression
# [18:45] <Optimizer> filling the array part
# [18:45] <@bz> Optimizer: Generator expressions, then
# [18:45] <Ms2ger> List comprehensions ;)
# [18:45] <Brijesh> Is there a way to create a TINY image for B2G, similar to TINY_ANDROID ?
# [18:45] <@bz> Optimizer: Chrome does not support them yet, iirc
# [18:46] <Optimizer> and also for of loops. I think chrome does not support them too..
# [18:46] <Optimizer> sad :(
# [18:46] <Brijesh> Android gives an option to create with the flag BUILD_TINY_ANDROID, just wanted to know if there is anything similar in Firefox OS.
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# [18:47] <Brijesh> anyone knows if a similar TINY image can be created in B2G project ?
# [18:47] <Optimizer> Brijesh: try asking in #b2g
# [18:47] <Brijesh> thanks
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# [18:48] <@bz> In a moz.build file
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# [18:48] <@bz> what ensures that EXPORTS.mozilla.dom works?
# [18:48] <Mossop> Optimizer: Array comprehensions came in JS 1.7, whatever Fx that was
# [18:49] <@bz> As in, ensures the EXPORTS.mozilla does not throw or return None, and likewise for mozilla.dom
# [18:49] <Mossop> Optimizer: Looks like Firefox 2
# [18:49] <Mossop> for..of is much newer
# [18:49] <Optimizer> did we have for of lops since then ?
# [18:49] <Optimizer> so how did they work earlier ?
# [18:49] <Mossop> for ... of came in Firefox 13
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# [18:50] <Mossop> You can use any loop in an array comprehension: [a for each (a in foo)] == [a for (a of foo)]
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# [18:51] <Optimizer> I see, that might help
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# [18:52] <Ms2ger> You don't want to use for each, though
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# [18:53] <Optimizer> coz that is also not in chrome ?
# [18:53] <Optimizer> or coz your identity is breached because of that ? ;)
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# [18:53] <Ms2ger> No, because we're planning to remove it
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# [18:59] <till> joe: fyi, I haven't yet been able to reproduce this again.
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# [19:01] <till> joe: do you think locally backing out bug 876332 and rebuilding will increase my chances?
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# [19:03] <firebot> Check-in:
# [19:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/194d9ece508a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 877510: Undefine GetClassInfo in nsHTMLFormElement.h, in case someone #including us also #included a windows header that stupidly defined it to something else.
# [19:03] <firebot> r=smaug
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# [19:07] <armenzg_buildduty> jimm: feel free to grab the machine
# [19:07] <jimm> armenzg_buildduty: thx
# [19:08] <joe> till: yes, definitely, but if there's still hangs post-that bug, they'll be swamped with that bug's hangs
# [19:08] <armenzg_buildduty> ty!
# [19:08] <till> joe: ah, that's not much of a help, then.
# [19:08] <till> joe: k, I'll try this some more, then
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# [19:09] <till> joe: obviously, it reproduces much easier in an opt build ...
# [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99642951e827 - Richard Newman - Bug 878670 - Version profile information cache file. r=nalexander
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# [19:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8473deb5fba9 - Paul Adenot - Bug 878765 - Add missing incrementation in AudioBlockPanStereoToStereo. r=ehsan
# [19:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d327854300c - Paul Adenot - Bug 877527
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# [19:14] <@ehsan> padenot: you missed the test file: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d327854300c
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# [19:15] <jimm> armenzg_buildduty: hey, do you know if the last run on that slave was a success or a failure?
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# [19:15] <@ehsan> padenot: also the bug# in the commit message is different than the file name in the patch
# [19:16] <@ehsan> padenot: i.e., this will break the build...
# [19:16] <padenot> I pushed a followup
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# [19:17] <@ehsan> thanks
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# [19:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/11dcc05b46a0 - Terrence Cole - Bug 875435 - Allow the nursery to grow and shrink with demand; r=bhackett
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# [19:18] <padenot> ha, push race
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# [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0bf1e71fe3cc - Paul Adenot - Bug 877527. Forgot to hg add.
# [19:20] <jesup> akeybl: lsblakk: ping
# [19:20] <akeybl> jesup: hello
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# [19:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a1e8e7ac07e - Wes Johnston - Bug 870063 - Fix context menu typo. r=mfinkle
# [19:23] <jesup> akeybl: wanted to check with you on approvals, especially for Beta 4. Since we haven't fixed bug 870002, we should back out bug 866514 from beta. We also have to make a decision on bug 872978 and bug 876167 (data channel leak and an SCTP library crash workaround)
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# [19:24] <jesup> akeybl: we also have two safety fixes: bug 876856, and speculative safety fix bug 876878
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# [19:25] <jesup> We've landed everything else we were looking at for Beta
# [19:26] <akeybl> jesup: triage is this afternoon, beta build is at EOD tomorrow, will review today
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# [19:26] <jesup> akeybl: excellent, thanks.
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# [19:27] <jesup> akeybl: wasn't sure of the timing, so I thought I'd ask. That answers what I wanted to know
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# [19:41] <philor> padenot: don't forget to `hg add test_bug877427.html`, since otherwise everything will burn and I'll close the tree and you'll have to push it as a CLOSED TREE followup
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# [19:42] <padenot> philor: already done in a followup push
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# [19:43] <mib_4a2bj4> Hi people! Could anyone tell me how to access a file in a "/content subdirectory" of my plugin. Eg: "chrome://scripter/content/mySubdirectory/myFile.js". I'm trying to acces it with Services.scriptloader.loadSubScript but I only can access it when file is in /content, and I need to organize the files
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# [19:57] <BenWa> philor: Why is that?
# [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e1ed1bb112a - Brian Hackett - Bug 878627 - Give an empty result type set to binops with an empty lhs or rhs type set, r=djvj.
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# [19:59] <philor> BenWa: out of three messages I've seen, one was an inability to apply an interdiff, and for all I know the second was about things the interdiff changed since it reviewed the patch it applies on, and the third was inability to apply, on a different bug
# [19:59] <jimm> BenWa: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReviewRobot
# [20:00] <jimm> oh, not what, 'why'. nm.
# [20:00] <BenWa> philor: Well it will need a bit of tweaking. Right now it will only do a limited numbers of reviews
# [20:00] <Ms2ger> Does it handle patch stacks?
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# [20:04] <BenWa> ehsan: Got the review bot deployed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844288#c72 . Let me know when you post new patch. I'll be running it manually at first.
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# [20:21] <ialagenchev> is there a way to print the string of nsIConsoleMessage from gdb? According to MXR, there should be toString method but it didn't work
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# [20:29] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: set print object on and then just print the object?
# [20:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/08a29f18500a - Bobby Holley - Bug 877862 - Propagate exceptions from PrepareForWrapping. r=mrbkap
# [20:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4a39e18e5a7 - Bobby Holley - Bug 878325 - Propagate exceptions out of CreateTemplateBuilder and LoadDataSources. r=bz
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# [20:31] <@ehsan> BenWa: cool, will do
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# [20:38] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: What's is the best way to drill down then? p (*mMessage.mRawPtr).mMessage
# [20:38] <ialagenchev> There is no member or method named mMessage. even though I see it in the object print out?
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# [20:41] <vlad> anyone know offhand what bug made us start using the right system value for layout.css.dpi on windows?
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# [20:42] <mwu> vlad: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874295 ?
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# [20:42] <vlad> mwu: hm
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# [20:43] <vlad> that's android specific?
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# [20:43] <vlad> oh though nsDocument is asking widget
# [20:43] <mwu> that affected every platform
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# [20:43] <mwu> but now it's restricted to android after that fix
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# [20:44] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: I don't understand the question
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# [20:44] <mrbkap> Does g++ 4.6.3 implement C++'s 'final' keyword?
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# [20:44] <vlad> mwu: er, what do you mean restricted to android?
# [20:44] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, why?
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# [20:44] <vlad> mwu: the code in that patch in nsDocument that calls widget->GetDefaultScale() on non-android is new code
# [20:45] <kendle> Hi! Anyone know how to create a document on about:blank? I'm developing an addon that add a div with a videocamera but I only can insert it if a windows.content.document exists. With about:blank my addon throws error. So I know I can redirect the user to another website, but I don't want to depend on that webpage. Any idea?
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# [20:45] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: I have a patch that accidentally overrides a final function and it compiles on my computer, but not wchen's.
# [20:45] <mwu> well the call to GetDevicePixelsPerMetaViewportPixel is wrong, and now the wrongness is restricted to android
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# [20:45] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, sounds like yours doesn't have it, then :)
# [20:45] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: Thanks :P
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# [20:46] <Ms2ger> Helpful, ain't I? :)
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# [20:46] <tbsaunde> mrbkap: yeah, iirc 4.6 only supports _final or something, but I thought MOZ_FINAL tried to use that
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# [20:46] <Ms2ger> /* __final is a non-C++11 GCC synonym for 'final', per GCC r176655. */
# [20:46] <Ms2ger> # if MOZ_GCC_VERSION_AT_LEAST(4, 7, 0)
# [20:46] <Ms2ger> # define MOZ_HAVE_CXX11_FINAL __final
# [20:46] <Ms2ger> # endif
# [20:47] <tbsaunde> ah well
# [20:47] <mrbkap> Thanks.
# [20:47] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: So these are COMPtrs and whenever I try to print member variables from the original class, which get displayed by print object gdb throws back that such member doesn't exist, even when I go through RawPtr. Is there a way to drill down and print the vals of member vars? Sorry for the noob question I don't have experience in this area
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# [20:48] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: I try to drill down like I would be dereferencing them using C, but gdb complains nevertheless
# [20:48] <Ms2ger> ialagenchev, ah, try .get() instead of .mRawPtr
# [20:48] <philor> padenot: ah, that's much better, now it just times out :|
# [20:49] <Ms2ger> ialagenchev, mRawPtr is actually an nsISupports*
# [20:49] <ialagenchev> Ms2ger: Ah I keep forgetting that
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# [20:50] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: yeah, what Ms2ger said or use debug builds I'm pretty sure we don't to the nsISupports* stuff then
# [20:50] <Ms2ger> Really?
# [20:51] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, looks like we do
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# [20:55] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: Ms2ger Thanks for the help
# [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2dd5420680af - William Lachance - Bug 878914 - Fix race condition in marionette testrunner;r=jgriffin
# [20:55] <Ms2ger> np
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# [20:56] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I'm pretty sure I haven't had to cast foo.mRawPtr in a while, but maybe that's because of something else
# [20:57] <Ms2ger> Interesting
# [20:57] <Ms2ger> For nsCOMPtr or nsRefPtr?
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# [20:57] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: nsCOMPtr
# [20:57] <@bz> nsCOMPtr
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# [20:58] <Ms2ger> I dunno how you do that, then
# [20:58] <RyanVM> padenot: I'll just back you out. inbound's closed anyway
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# [21:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2de97d3a53f - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 877527, bug 878765) for mochitest-1 timeouts on a CLOSED TREE.
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# [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b11bffd58de9 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 7 changesets (bug 872147, bug 872143, bug 877467, bug 877200, bug 870063, bug 872149) for robocop-2 failures on a CLOSED TREE.
# [21:05] <akeybl> I'm here Ms2ger
# [21:06] <Ms2ger> It's you I bribe for beta approvals? :)
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# [21:07] <spohl> could somebody tell me what I should be monitoring to know when the passwords change for #moco and what they are? (feel free to PM me)
# [21:08] <gcp> intranet wiki
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# [21:08] <gcp> "Staff Meeting" on its front page
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# [21:08] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: with gdb 7.6 http://paste.debian.net/8306/
# [21:08] <akeybl> yeah Ms2ger
# [21:08] <akeybl> :)
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# [21:09] <Ms2ger> akeybl, bug 878509
# [21:09] <Ms2ger> akeybl, it's real safe and real good, I promise :)
# [21:09] <akeybl> I accept both rational reasoning and liquor
# [21:09] <akeybl> will see if it passes the reasoning test
# [21:09] <akeybl> we'll fall back to liquor
# [21:09] <@smaug> ttaubert: ping
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# [21:10] <ttaubert> smaug: hey
# [21:10] <@smaug> ttaubert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=878747#c1
# [21:10] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, mm, print object on or something?
# [21:10] <tantek> spohl - start at https://intranet.mozilla.org/
# [21:10] <@smaug> "when it's set before the element is injected into the DOM."
# [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65c09310a0b3 - Scott Johnson - Bug 865654: Adjust offsets within text areas only so that other text controls get correct offsets. [r=blassey]
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# [21:10] <@smaug> ttaubert: we return early in that method if the element isn't in document
# [21:10] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: yeah, I have print object set
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# [21:11] <spohl> gcp, tantek: thanks, that helped!
# [21:11] <@smaug> ttaubert: hmm, perhaps I should look at the other patch
# [21:11] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, that might be it, despite mRawPtr still being nsISupports
# [21:11] <sponge> johns: hey dunno if you're around but not having much luck getting the debug firefox going. plugin crashes when it tries to initialize so i can't seem to even attach to it. i did see that assert flying by in the console window though
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# [21:11] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: with out that you just get nsIFile* which is kind of useless unless you know how to call functions in gdb that require pointer args
# [21:11] <ttaubert> smaug: LoadSrc() is called by nsXULElement::BindToTree()
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# [21:11] <@smaug> ttaubert: yes
# [21:11] <@smaug> so?
# [21:11] <ttaubert> that's what I want to prevent
# [21:12] <@smaug> you don't want to load the iframe/browser when it is added to document?
# [21:12] <ttaubert> right
# [21:12] <ttaubert> because it always loads 'about:blank'
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# [21:12] <ttaubert> even if we don't need that
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# [21:12] <@smaug> ah
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# [21:12] <@smaug> I see
# [21:12] <ttaubert> and we almost never need that, so we stop the about:blank load and kick off antoher load
# [21:13] <@smaug> ok, the comment 1 was a bit misleading.
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# [21:13] * @smaug thinks
# [21:13] <ttaubert> smaug: sorry, yeah I could've worded that better
# [21:13] <@smaug> ttaubert: do we explicitly have about:blank src
# [21:13] <johns> sponge: I think if you attach to the parent process in a debugger first, it will cause assertions in the child to be blocking.
# [21:13] <@smaug> or no src at all?
# [21:13] <johns> sponge: I will do some more testing today to see if I can figure out what's going wrong on our end
# [21:13] <ttaubert> smaug: no 'src'
# [21:13] <Ms2ger> akeybl, thanks a lot
# [21:14] <ttaubert> smaug: it defaults to about:blank
# [21:14] <Ms2ger> akeybl, I'll see if I can get you some liquor at some point ;)
# [21:14] <ttaubert> smaug: here. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsFrameLoader.cpp#320
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# [21:14] <@smaug> yup
# [21:14] <akeybl> ;)
# [21:15] <Ms2ger> You're... MV-based?
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# [21:15] <sponge> johns: will try that, and appreciate it. my c/c++ skills are a bit limited but if whatever changes we need to make i think i can manage to!
# [21:15] <Ms2ger> Next bribe, then..
# [21:15] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, hey, you around? :)
# [21:15] <RyanVM> depends on the bribe
# [21:16] <Ms2ger> Dammit
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# [21:16] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, so I've got a patch that I'd kinda need to get in tomorrow's beta...
# [21:17] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: planning to do another round of uplifts after the next inboudn merge
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# [21:17] <RyanVM> which is just waiting on a windows pgo run to finish up
# [21:17] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, thanks, much appreciated
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# [21:20] <@smaug> ttaubert: could you change nsFrameLoader. Check if mOwnerContent->IsXUL() and if it has nodefaultsrc, return early
# [21:20] <@smaug> something like that
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# [21:20] <mkaply> Didn't localizations used to be on mxr.mozilla.org? Is there another way to view them on the web?
# [21:20] <ttaubert> smaug: of course, thx for the feedback!
# [21:21] <Ms2ger> mkaply, https://mxr.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ ?
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# [21:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8d9444230262 - Randell Jesup - Bug 866514: backout on beta due to bug 870002 rs=me a=akeybl
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# [21:21] <mkaply> Man I'm just blind.
# [21:22] <mkaply> I forgot to click on l10n on the right
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# [21:25] <njn> Is there a way to set a global option that will always be passed to clang? (I mean system-wide, not in Mozilla's build system)
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# [21:26] <njn> clang 3.2 on my Ubuntu 13.04 update is missing a necessary -I option
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# [21:26] <johns> njn: You could create a wrapper
# [21:26] <njn> johns: well, yeah
# [21:26] <njn> johns: a .clangrc file or similar would be nicer
# [21:27] <johns> njn: the CPATH env var maybe
# [21:28] <njn> johns: hmm, yeah, I'll try that
# [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78c0e2d241ff - Brian Hackett - Bug 877130 - Fix bogus assert, r=djvj.
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# [21:29] <njn> johns: works. thanks
# [21:29] <gaston> wth is that review robot automatically trying to apply patches ?
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> BenWa's baby
# [21:30] <gaston> something new in bugzilla ?
# [21:30] <gaston> insane
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReviewRobot
# [21:30] <BenWa> gaston: Is it spamming bots? It should only be matching patches from me and eh-san
# [21:30] <BenWa> spamming bugs*
# [21:31] <glob> BenWa, are you polling bmo for patches?
# [21:31] <BenWa> glob: Yes, but we filter
# [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ca1abed8c9a - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 872981 - Print a warning whenever something attempts to store more than 4kb of preferences. r=bsmedberg
# [21:31] <gaston> BenWa: no worries, i was just surprised to see autocomments
# [21:31] <glosoli> Hmm is there any reason why scaling Firefox window on OSX lags ?
# [21:32] <gaston> like that funky webkit bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117145
# [21:32] <glob> BenWa, hrm. how frequently are you polling?
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# [21:32] <gaston> filed by a bot, only commented by a bot, & closed by a bot
# [21:32] <BenWa> glob: Right now I'm running it manually
# [21:32] <Ms2ger> gaston, that's standard procedure for backouts
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# [21:33] <Ms2ger> gaston, though ap commented there ;)
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# [21:33] <glob> BenWa, one thing we can do on bmo is run actions based on a change to bugs
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# [21:33] <glob> BenWa, i'd love to avoid polling where possible :)
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# [21:33] <BenWa> glob: Well I just save the current patch numbers and I poll until I start getting empty attachment so it shouldn't be a heavy load
# [21:34] <Optimizer> so.. I am trying to get rid of this focus ring around the <option> element. I have tried {outline:none}, :-moz-focusring{...} but nothing works.
# [21:34] <BenWa> glob: But if BMO sent out a message I could listen to it
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# [21:34] <BenWa> glosoli: Yes, if the page is expensively to reflow+paint
# [21:34] <BenWa> Try a blank page
# [21:35] <BenWa> glosoli: a profiler will confirm where the cpu time is going
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# [21:35] <Gijs> Optimizer: why?
# [21:35] <glosoli> BenWa: Ah yes hmm, don't take it the wrong way, but why it is not the problem with other browsers ?
# [21:35] <Optimizer> Gijs: I don't want them
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# [21:36] <Gijs> I'm a keyboard user and I want it?
# [21:36] <BenWa> glosoli: Because their resize lags behind their painting which causes a 'tearing' effect
# [21:36] <Optimizer> Gijs: assume I have a valid usecase
# [21:36] <Gijs> Optimizer: generally, getting rid of focus indicators is a Really Bad Idea (tm)
# [21:36] <Gijs> Optimizer: anyway, have you actually checked what's going on with eg. DOMI or devtools?
# [21:36] <Optimizer> Gijs: moreover, the blue highlight is sufficient for my case
# [21:37] <glosoli> BenWa: hmm why did you do that lol, now I started noticing that tearing everywhere ;d
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# [21:37] <Gijs> and/or can you show me the page where this is happening? :)
# [21:37] <BenWa> haha yea. It's a trade off
# [21:37] <glosoli> BenWa: Well I would still call it as a good trick for marketing, would I be wrong ?
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# [21:37] <BenWa> No, it's not a bad trick
# [21:38] <BenWa> In general for a multi process browser you want to resize async and for a single process browser you don't
# [21:38] <glosoli> BenWa: so until/if firefox becomes multi process I shouldn't expect FAKE smooth resizing ?
# [21:38] <Optimizer> Gijs: none of the computed style has outline or border width non zero
# [21:39] <Optimizer> Gijs: I can give you the code to do it on every page.
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# [21:39] <BenWa> glosoli: It's a safe statement but we can't be sure
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# [21:41] <glosoli> BenWa: Thanks for the detailed explanations! :)
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# [21:41] <BenWa> np
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# [21:42] <BenWa> Ultimately any improvements we make to rendering perf will improve the behavior regardless if we do it sync or async
# [21:42] <glosoli> Yep that's understandable, still I love how Firefox renders fonts
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# [21:43] <@ehsan> BenWa: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876129#c19
# [21:43] <@ehsan> BenWa: this was an oldish patch
# [21:43] <BenWa> ok?
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# [21:45] <BenWa> glob: Maybe it might just be easier to have a 'Automated review' button. It would also offer better control of what you want to get a review
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# [21:45] <@ehsan> BenWa: why did the robot act on it?
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# [21:46] <BenWa> ehsan: I ran it on patches starting a recent-ish patch number
# [21:46] <RyanVM> bholley: ping
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# [21:46] <@ehsan> BenWa: ok, so expected?
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# [21:46] <BenWa> ehsan: Next time it will pick up on 756724 so it's up to date now
# [21:46] <BenWa> yes
# [21:46] <glob> BenWa, that could be possible too
# [21:46] <BenWa> glob: I think having it run on attachment randomly will be a pain. It will fail for patch queues for example
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# [21:47] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bb02a59865fe :)
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# [21:47] <@ehsan> BenWa: great, thanks!
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# [21:47] <BenWa> I could have it not comment when there's a failure but on the flip side people might wonder why some patches don't get any comments. Anyways I'm hoping to get some feedback from people for now before it starts 'spamming' bugzilla more
# [21:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bb02a59865fe - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 878859 - Remove the mach clippy avatar; r=ted
# [21:48] <Ms2ger> BenWa, I wonder if you've thought about patches that depend on other patches in the same bug / other bugs?
# [21:48] <BenWa> Ms2ger: Those will also fail to apply. We don't have the meta data for that :(
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# [22:00] <jhammel> i *knew* the mach clippy should have been configurable
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# [22:02] <jld> I could've sworn that Firefox wasn't harder to build than GCC if you just wanted a browser with nothing fancy enabled.
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# [22:02] <jld> But now PROGRAM = CONFIG['MOZ_CHILD_PROCESS_NAME'] is trying to assign a NoneType and I don't know what's going on.
# [22:02] <Optimizer> CSS experts : is there a way via CSS to remove the dotted border around a selected <option> element in a size > 1 <select> box ?
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# [22:05] <jwir3> jhammel: I though the clippy guy was kind of cute
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# [22:06] <jwir3> but the screenreader argument is good. ;)
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# [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e395208b63be - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 867056. r=rstrong. a=akeybl
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# [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/281b0297de65 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1ca1abed8c9a (bug 872981) for xpcshell crashes.
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# [22:45] <gaston> could hg qnew show the diff in the editor when typing the commit msg, as git commit -v does ?
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# [22:46] <mrbkap> gaston: I think that's what 'qnew -e' does.
# [22:46] <mrbkap> oh
# [22:46] <mrbkap> gaston: no, I don't think so.
# [22:46] * mrbkap misread your question.
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# [22:47] <@bsmedberg> I have not seen that feature.
# [22:47] <jimb> smaug: ping
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# [22:49] <@smaug> jimb: pong
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# [22:52] <jesup> glandium: ted: ARGH>>> failed build on beta: /builds/slave/m-beta-lx-00000000000000000000/build/js/src/ion/IonBuilder.cpp:2851:69: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23730085&tree=Mozilla-Beta
# [22:52] <jesup> retriggered and praying
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# [22:53] <philor> jesup happens all the time, search for "ionbuilder" and you'll find the bug
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# [22:54] <RyanVM> jesup: way ahead of you ;)
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# [22:54] <jesup> RyanVM: yar, almost got it.... Thanks
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# [22:55] <jesup> Oooh, we both retriggered
# [22:55] <jesup> Shall we kill the second one?
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# [23:05] <RyanVM> akeybl: bug 878509 needs ba to land on beta
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# [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/10caf14d9013 - Randell Jesup - Bug 876856 - Check if PeerConnection is closed before accessing MediaStreamList. r=ekr, a=akeybl
# [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/752b1880d266 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 876098 - Make sure to not skip calling addProperty hooks when objects have them. Otherwise DOM expandos can go AWOL. r=djvj, a=akeybl
# [23:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e3d25c40d9a0 - Bobby Holley - Bug 858101 - Run the DefaultValue algorithm directly on the wrapper for Xrays. r=mrbkap, a=akeybl
# [23:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/eb782cc8015d - Bobby Holley - Bug 858101 - Fix other tests. r=mrbkap, a=akeybl
# [23:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5bbcbcf805dd - Richard Newman - Bug 877057 - Add a download limit to Sync Engine fetches. r=mconnor, a=akeybl
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# [23:09] <jimb> smaug: Hi! I was looking at this code: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/ContentParent.cpp#l2344
# [23:09] <akeybl> RyanVM: Will follow up in bug
# [23:09] <RyanVM> akeybl: ok
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# [23:10] <jimb> smaug: and wondering why so many of the methods of ContentParent test whether mMessageManager is set; it seems like it's created in the constructor and never cleared, so it should always be there.
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# [23:10] <jimb> Sorry; it seems to be up to date. :)
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# [23:10] <ialagenchev> Can someone help me figure out an issues with nsContentUtils::ReportToConsole? I am trying to put a message to the web security console and even though I appear to be doing everything right, it doesn't show up on the console
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# [23:12] <jimb> How does one turn an nsISupports into a jsval?
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# [23:13] <@smaug> jimb: indeed, null check looks useless
# [23:13] <jimb> (I'm working in hand-written SpiderMonkey native functions in xpcshell.cpp, so "let XPCOM do it" doesn't apply here, although that'd be my preference.)
# [23:13] <jimb> smaug: *whew* Thanks!
# [23:13] <@smaug> jimb: nsRefPtr isn't
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# [23:14] <jimb> smaug: nsRefPtr isn't... what? Useless?
# [23:14] <@smaug> jimb: right, not useless
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# [23:15] <@smaug> jimb: xpconnect has WrapNative for nsISupports ->
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# [23:15] <jimb> smaug: excellent, I'll look that up.
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# [23:16] <jimb> Or perhaps wrapNativeToJSVal
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# [23:30] <jesup> akeybl: bug 878945 - the spec for DataChannels just changed (renamed a bunch of dictionary members), and we don't want to go out to release with the 'old' names and encourage UA/version sniffing - but that means a UUID change since one attribute changed name. (Note: no one is known to be using any of these from an extension, and the attribute we're sure no one is using yet except for a test...
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# [23:30] <jesup> ...page we made).
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# [23:32] <sponge> johns: looks like the plugin crashes ffox when i turn off ipc. wasn't able to get anything useful by attaching to firefox.exe. if you've got any other ideas that i can try out gimme a yell whenever youve got time!
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# [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a40105015f6d - Dave Hylands - Bug 874213 - DeviceStorage: Add .default attribute to the device storage object. r=janv
# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4adebbde763a - Ben Kelly - Bug 874462 - Add "startsWith" filterOp. r=reuben
# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/57d30169ddd4 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge birch to m-c.
# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/524130d4d386 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/52806760a6da - Tim Taubert - Bug 876374 - Eliminate uninterruptible reflow caused by calling adjustTabstrip() in addTab(); r=dao
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# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/94cae09bda18 - Dave Camp - Bug 878472 - Let local debugger clients find the DebuggerServerConnection. r=past
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# [23:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c8b95e4bf23c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
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# [23:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4adebbde763a - Ben Kelly - Bug 874462 - Add "startsWith" filterOp. r=reuben
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# [23:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94cae09bda18 - Dave Camp - Bug 878472 - Let local debugger clients find the DebuggerServerConnection. r=past
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# [23:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8b95e4bf23c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
# [23:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a40105015f6d - Dave Hylands - Bug 874213 - DeviceStorage: Add .default attribute to the device storage object. r=janv
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# [23:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6e087e836f9 - Richard Newman - Bug 878303 - Part 2: use COUNTED_DISCRETE type for searches. r=nalexander
# [23:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e3a4ebcf067 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 861371 - Allow Web IDL enums to have names starting with a digit; r=bzbarsky
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