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# [00:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d1e0a7011fd - Sean Stangl - Bug 877912 - Fix incorrect MatchOnly start position. r=mjrosenb
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# [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d3aba25ba8d - Terrence Cole - Bug 877835 - Make the nursery a permanent allocation; r=bhackett
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# [00:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/338bb731eb55 - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 877309 - drawImage should copy from default framebuffer, not the currently bound fb. - r=bjacob
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# [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e9b95c25646 - Bobby Holley - Bug 879341 - Move CheckForDebugMode into the main thread event observer. r=gabor
# [00:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5a75ac6f7e2 - Bobby Holley - Bug 879341 - Use an AutoPushJSContext in JSD. r=gabor
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# [00:45] <whimboo> jimm: does the metrotestharness tool now also accepts a relative path to the firefox binary?
# [00:45] <whimboo> jimm: it seems to work for me
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# [01:36] <NeilAway> any jemalloc experts around? if you try to realloc something smaller, and the new size fits in a different bucket, but there are no free entries in the bucket, and the system runs out of memory allocating a new bucket, will jemalloc return null?
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# [01:38] <khuey> NeilAway: yes
# [01:38] <khuey> NeilAway: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/memory/mozjemalloc/jemalloc.c#5314
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# [01:50] <nthomas> tbpl misbehaving for anyone else ?
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# [01:51] <nthomas> hmm, working now
# [01:51] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: there was an error showing when I went back to an opened tbpl tab, but it's gone on refresh?
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# [01:51] <nthomas> yeah, looks like there some 500 errors for a while
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# [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d9f698d2b937 - L. David Baron - Bug 879255: Refactor fix for bug 613888, step 2: consolidate oldPT variable. r=nrc
# [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/889e1e5c5f63 - L. David Baron - Bug 879255: Refactor fix for bug 613888, step 3: move no-change test earlier so that we don't have to clutter conditions between the new location and old with logic
# [02:37] <firebot> to fall through to it. r=nrc
# [02:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cdf2abff971 - L. David Baron - Bug 879255: Refactor fix for bug 613888, step 1: create haveCurrentTransition variable. r=nrc
# [02:38] <jaws> nrc: ping?
# [02:38] <nrc> jaws: hi
# [02:39] <jaws> nrc: hey, have you started working on bug 877294?
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# [02:40] <nrc> jaws: no, not yet. Probably next week. Its also quite a big job, because we need to implement all of css masking, so it is unlikely to be an immediate solution for the Australis issue
# [02:41] <jaws> hm, ok. yeah we would need it for 25 if at all possible
# [02:41] <jaws> nrc: ^
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# [02:43] <nrc> jaws: I'll try, but that is pretty tight timing
# [02:43] <jaws> ok, thanks!
# [02:43] <jaws> i thought there was more overlap with svg masking
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# [02:44] <nrc> jaws: one reason it might take a while is that we need to do some refactoring of the image code for this, and I don't know how much work that is, hopefully not too much, but I have no idea
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# [02:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed71811445d0 - Dan Gohman - Bug 875419 - Fold ImmWord values which fit in 32-bit immediate fields. r=sstangl
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# [02:54] <@roc> ok this is stupid
# [02:54] <@roc> Hotel Griffon wants 800 USD for the nights of July 7 and 8
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# [03:02] <@roc> Hotel Vitale is even worse
# [03:02] <Jesse> http://www.hotelplanner.com/Events-Calendar/2283-Events-in-San-Francisco-CA only lists semicon for those dates. not sure i trust that site though.
# [03:03] <@roc> maybe I should just sleep in the office
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# [03:05] <sfink> surely there's somebody with a place in SF who could host you? You can stay at my place, if you're ok with being 40 minutes from the city (by car; a bit more by train)
# [03:06] <sfink> oh. er, except I won't be there.
# [03:06] <tbsaunde> roc: nah, go to the drop box office and sleep there I here they have napping rooms or some such
# [03:06] <@roc> I'm checking into a hotel in Berkeley later in the week, I'll see if I can check in there early.
# [03:06] <@roc> and commute from there
# [03:07] <efaust> that's a little miserable.
# [03:07] <Jesse> depends how far you are from BART
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# [03:09] <nrc> Wow, hope we have a decent block booking for the summit there
# [03:10] <gaston> Callek: no sm 2.19 beta yet ? still infra issues ? :(
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# [03:14] <@roc> looks like 45 minutes each way
# [03:15] <reuben> nrc: summit is going to be in Santa Clara
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# [03:15] <nrc> oh, it got moved?
# [03:15] <reuben> yep
# [03:15] * nrc doesn't even know where Santa Clara is
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# [03:15] <reuben> SF -> Santa Clara, Paris -> Brussels
# [03:16] <reuben> right next to Mountain View
# [03:16] <mwu> next to mountain view
# [03:16] <gaston> anyone experienced dns timeouts w/ffx in the beta branch ? maybe a known reported bug somewhere ?
# [03:16] <nrc> oh
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# [03:16] <gaston> a change in default resolvers or smth ?
# [03:16] <nrc> that is not such a fun destination :-(
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# [03:19] <@roc> Santa Clara is the armpit of Silicon Valley
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# [03:20] <nrc> you're really selling it!
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# [03:21] <reuben> nrc: there's an amusement park right next to the convention center
# [03:21] <reuben> :)
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# [03:23] <nrc> well, that sounds like fun
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# [03:27] <RyanVM> heycam: ping
# [03:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/680d346756b7 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 877559 - Fix passing double arguments to callVM in Ion. (r=nbp)
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# [03:30] <mwu> RyanVM: I probably burned the firstpaint test on birch
# [03:30] <RyanVM> mwu: good work! :)
# [03:30] <heycam> RyanVM, pong, but limited concentration
# [03:31] <RyanVM> heycam: was just wondering if you could possibly run the analysis you did on the mochitest-1 logs in bug 876545 on the other mochitest logs
# [03:31] <RyanVM> heycam: when you have some spare cycles
# [03:31] <mwu> RyanVM: I was under the impression that we would run that test on b2g and that my try run had any meaning
# [03:31] <mwu> apparently not
# [03:31] <RyanVM> heycam: because I'm guessing there's cruft in the other suites that could be killed too :)
# [03:31] <heycam> RyanVM, there probably is. :) I'll do so in a couple of days when I'm back from this F2F.
# [03:32] <RyanVM> heycam: cool, thanks :)
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# [03:33] <RyanVM> darktrojan: technically it's self-sheriffed
# [03:33] <darktrojan> (not that my patch should break anything)
# [03:33] <darktrojan> k
# [03:34] <RyanVM> though in reality, it falls somewhere in between
# [03:34] <darktrojan> well I should be here for an hour or so
# [03:34] <RyanVM> i usually watch it during the day when I'm on the clock, but I don't think there are any official guarantees of such
# [03:34] <RyanVM> mwu: I'm sorry, I'm not seeing what you broke?
# [03:34] <mwu> RyanVM: windows mochitest 2
# [03:34] <RyanVM> oh, ok
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# [03:35] <RyanVM> (sorry, the browser-element tests are so flaky that I generally don't get too hot and bothered over them failing :P )
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# [03:35] <mwu> eh. I'll back it all out and deal with it tomorrow
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# [03:37] <RyanVM> mwu: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/b2g.json#180
# [03:37] <mwu> :(
# [03:38] <RyanVM> talk to jlebar about it I guess?
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# [03:38] <darktrojan> RyanVM, what do you actually work on? you seem to spend all day watching trees
# [03:39] <RyanVM> watching the trees isn't actual work? :)
# [03:39] <darktrojan> well with the rate we burn them...
# [03:39] <RyanVM> that actually is my job :P
# [03:39] <RyanVM> full-time sheriff
# [03:39] <darktrojan> woah
# [03:39] * darktrojan didn't know we had such people
# [03:39] <KWierso|Home> and I watch RyanVM so that one day I too can watch the trees :)
# [03:40] <RyanVM> mwahaha
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# [03:40] <RyanVM> darktrojan: edmorley is also full-time
# [03:40] <RyanVM> we all have other various things we do besides just staring at tbpl all day, but that is a main responsibility of ours :)
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# [03:41] <darktrojan> and philor is.. just philor
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# [03:41] <RyanVM> philor is pure volunteer awesomeness
# [03:41] <KWierso|Home> ^
# [03:41] <darktrojan> yes
# [03:41] <darktrojan> so full of rage
# [03:41] <RyanVM> righteous fury :D
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# [03:42] <reuben> related: http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/3426
# [03:42] <darktrojan> how much of the code do you know?
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# [03:44] <@roc> Oakland isn't in Silicon Valley. Maybe it's the oleaginous scum stuck to Silicon Valley's collar.
# [03:45] <RyanVM> reuben++
# [03:45] <@roc> actually it's supposed to be nicer now
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# [03:46] <mounir> gavin: why do you want storage.js to be built in?
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# [04:18] <nemo> *sigh*
# [04:18] <nemo> does anyone ever hit ctrl-q on purpose? :(
# [04:18] <nemo> why is there no about:config to disable that
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# [04:29] <KWierso|Home> nemo: something like this'd work, I think: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=4C5400C8C76C0BD1!855
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# [04:33] <philor> nice, who broke svg/as-image/list-simple-1.html?
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# [04:35] <jlebar> mwu: If the test is orange on Windows, just disable it there. Tons of tests already are; I don't have a mind to care.
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# [04:35] <mwu> jlebar: it's orange everywhere
# [04:35] <jlebar> mwu: so what was the bit about the whitelist?
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# [04:36] <mwu> jlebar: RyanVM pointed me to http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/b2g.json#180
# [04:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45361ebec718 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 877461. Make MediaCache aggressively cache data just behind the current playback position. r=cpearce
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# [04:37] <jlebar> mwu: Well, that's a blacklist, right? So it looks like the in-process version /was/ running on b2g.
# [04:37] <mwu> oh?
# [04:37] <jlebar> oh
# [04:37] <jlebar> no, there's an entry at the end which nukes them all
# [04:37] <jlebar> mwu: line 187
# [04:38] <mwu> hah
# [04:38] <mwu> well, I did legitimately screw up that test, so it should be orange everywhere it runs
# [04:38] <jlebar> oh, okay. :)
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# [04:40] <mwu> nrc: do you have a leo or buri device?
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# [04:40] <mwu> or inari/ikura
# [04:40] <mwu> those are the only ones we really support hwc on
# [04:41] <nrc> mwu: none of the above, only Unagi
# [04:41] <ekr> philor: impending bustage: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2486599
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# [04:41] <mwu> uhh, hm
# [04:41] <philor> ekr: can't be, roc wouldn't bust us!
# [04:42] <ekr> roc: ^^
# [04:42] <ekr> philor: well, it could be my setup, obviously
# [04:42] <nrc> mwu: I'll upload a patch with some logging and ask nicely :-)
# [04:42] <philor> did you like how I blamed him before I even looked at the pastebin?
# [04:42] <ekr> philor: that was good
# [04:42] <ekr> "say it ain't so, roc!"
# [04:43] <mwu> works
# [04:43] <@roc> yes
# [04:43] <@roc> it's mine
# [04:43] <nemo> KWierso|Home: This item might not exist or is no longer available
# [04:43] <nemo> KWierso|Home: but, I've fixed it before by unpacking and repacking the jar
# [04:43] <nemo> Just... annoying
# [04:44] <nemo> a config entry for something so useless would be much better
# [04:44] <philor> dholbert: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/reftests/svg/as-image/list-simple-1.html?force=1 is yours, albeit from a million years ago, any guesses about who this afternoon caused it to fail and fail big, around once a push?
# [04:44] <@roc> fix pushed
# [04:44] <@roc> oh wait
# [04:44] <dholbert> philor, looking
# [04:45] <philor> hmm, fail on the reference image, not the test
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# [04:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86a166bf1ba7 - Robert O'Callahan - Fix bustage on a CLOSED TREE for bug 877461
# [04:47] <dholbert> philor, probably jlebar's push
# [04:47] <philor> "here we are explicitly trading off always rendering reftests for..."
# [04:47] <dholbert> philor, yeah, that
# [04:47] <dholbert> er, s/jlebar/tn/
# [04:47] <dholbert> both of them really
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# [04:47] <dholbert> tn, you around?
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# [04:49] <dholbert> philor, are you already commenting on that bug? if not, I can
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# [04:49] <philor> dholbert: nope, I usually comment with "backed out in" and just rage on irc prior to that
# [04:50] <ekr_> philor: Just out of curiosity how do you push on a closed tree?
# [04:50] <gaston> with CLOSED TREE in the msg
# [04:50] <gaston> but ssssh, dont tell anyone :)
# [04:50] <ekr_> Ah. Thanks! I will remember not to do that
# [04:51] <philor> so generally, "hg qimport -r tip && hg qref -e && hg qpop && hg push"
# [04:51] <ekr_> roc: that fixed it
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# [04:51] <@roc> phew
# [04:51] <ekr_> Thanks for the quick fix
# [04:52] <philor> I do so enjoy using the autocompleted "Bustage ahoy!" reason :)
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# [04:57] <dholbert> philor, I'm going to back out that patch
# [04:58] <dholbert> if we keep seeing the orange, then we'll know it was innocent
# [04:58] <dholbert> otherwise GUILTY
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# [05:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b39437839d53 - Daniel Holbert - Back out 022bc808586b (bug 845147) on suspicion of causing frequent intermittent oranges for list-simple-1.html by busting its reference case
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# [05:03] <philor> mmm, 0 Unstarred
# [05:03] <philor> and hardly any cheating, much, to get there
# [05:03] <dholbert> philor, thanks for starring the reftest-oranges
# [05:04] <philor> thanks for giving me something to star them as, other than "don't star this as that suggested bug" :)
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# [05:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7cf4aeef44d - David Zbarsky - Bug 788549 Part 12: Add tests for async transform transitions r=dbaron
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# [05:30] <philor> ehsan: Profiling got stuck sometime after last night
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# [05:30] <tn> dholbert, philor, sorry about the orange. in my defence that patch has been _extensively_ tryservered and that did not show up
# [05:31] <philor> well, I don't know whether it's still stuck, since it's not 22:00
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# [05:33] <philor> tn: nobody expects the debug Windows - its thousand main weapons are sloth, sloth, sloth, sloth, sloth, sloth, sloth,
# [05:34] <tn> philor, didn't you help me find my debug windows results for a try push for that patch?
# [05:34] <philor> probably somehow significant that it wasn't the usual source of sloth, WinXP
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# [05:34] <philor> oh, that one where you got caught by the switch from oldslaves to new?
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# [05:35] <philor> and.... only got the old slaves :|
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# [05:37] <@roc> awesome, AT&T iphone 4 imports banned in the US
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# [05:38] <tn> philor, yeah, that one, thanks for you're help on that
# [05:38] <derf> Less awesome if you wanted to buy an iPhone.
# [05:39] <derf> There's also a cease & desist for already-imported ones.
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# [05:41] <@roc> which reminds me: action item for Daala: cat-based optimization
# [05:41] <derf> Of course.
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# [07:17] <njn> phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, TV, billboard, ...?
# [07:18] <heycam> watch and shoephone
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# [07:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b59918a7210 - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 879494. Remove bug685516 annotations from reftests, they are not needed anymore. r=khuey
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# [07:21] <glob> njn, gkw translated it as "phones, tablets, laptops, LCD displays, desktop computers, AIO computers, flat screen TVs, and educational / medical applications"
# [07:22] <glob> (AIO = All In One)
# [07:22] <njn> glob: what's an "All in one" computer?
# [07:22] <glob> njn, eg. imac
# [07:23] <njn> glob: I think they were stretching to hit the lucky number 8, myself
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# [07:39] <ekr> or actually, anyone else who knows the URL parser?
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# [08:08] <@gavin> mounir: because I see it as a fundamental piece of the Web platform, not something that can be realistically relegated to "use a library"
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# [08:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c346868fe2c3 - Giovanni Marquez - Bug 408251: move updating of form history from handleSearchCommand to doSearch to make sure that mouse-triggered search bar queries end up recorded in form history,
# [08:21] <firebot> r=gavin
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# [08:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59c9d4349de6 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 879540: Remove "random" annotation from reftests that depend on flexbox being enabled at startup time; they're not actually random, since it's enabled by default.
# [08:25] <firebot> (no review; just a reftest.list tweak)
# [08:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/daed2157e09e - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 874572 - Suspend and resume the camera together with the application. r=blassey
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# [08:34] <markh> isn't there an NS_ macro so instead of doing "rv = SomeFunc(); NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv)" you can just write 'NS_SOMETHING(SomeFunc());' ?
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# [08:36] <markh> apparently not, given a mxr search for NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv) has > 1000 hits!
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# [08:39] <@gavin> NS_ENSURE_* are kinda falling out of fashion
# [08:39] <@gavin> returns-hidden-in-macros-considered-evil, etc.
# [08:39] <markh> in favour of just if (NS_FAILED(rv)) return rv;?
# [08:39] <@gavin> yeah
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# [08:39] <markh> coolio
# [08:39] <@gavin> (with newline before return, please! :)
# [08:39] <markh> yeah :)
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# [09:54] <MattN_> what's the trick to get 10.6 builds on try?
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# [09:55] <MattN_> (also, can an ircop unban me from a few weeks ago when my bouncer had a bug)
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# [09:56] <jesup> I just love getting internal compiler errors on a push
# [09:56] <edmorley> MattN_: see http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/
# [09:57] <MattN_> edmorley: that doesn't seem to help if I just want a build
# [09:57] <hdelassus> hey
# [09:57] <edmorley> MattN_: for windows and OS X, we only create one binary which is then run on multiple versions of the OS
# [09:57] <hdelassus> Do you know if there is a way to work on a queue somebody else created ?
# [09:58] <edmorley> MattN_: so there is no "10.6" build, only an "OS X generic build"
# [09:58] <hdelassus> I mean so we can both work on that queue
# [09:58] <hdelassus> I read something about hg qimport but we wonder if a queue can be pulled from mozilla-central...
# [09:58] <MattN_> hmm... the build I download on try won't run on a 10.6 machine
# [09:58] <dholbert> hdelassus, a patch queue, you mean?
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# [09:58] <dholbert> hdelassus, for mercurial?
# [09:58] <hdelassus> dholbert: indeed
# [09:58] <dholbert> hdelassus, you can make the patch queue itself be versioned
# [09:59] <MattN_> ah, this machine is only 32-bit
# [09:59] <edmorley> MattN_: perhaps try a build from m-c tip (or somewhere guaranteed to be working)
# [09:59] <dholbert> hdelassus, and then host it offsite somewhere that you can both reach
# [09:59] <edmorley> MattN_: if that works, then you know the issue is specifically with that try push and not missing dependencies or whatever on your local machine
# [09:59] <dholbert> hdelassus, and each clone from that to create your .hg/patches directory
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# [10:00] <dholbert> and then when you qref some changes to a patch that you want to share / save, cd into your patches directory and commit/push there
# [10:00] <edmorley> hdelassus: if you have level 1 commit access, you can create a user repo on hg.mozilla.org (failing that host on a public hg service eg bitbucket)
# [10:00] <dholbert> hdelassus, [indeed, those are both reasonable places to host patch queues]
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# [10:01] <MattN_> edmorley: m-c and UX nightly work fine
# [10:01] <dholbert> hdelassus, *be warned, though*: from what I've heard, sharing a patch queue with multiple people committing to it can make for an annoying/error-prone workflow
# [10:02] <dholbert> hdelassus, since merging changes *to a patch file* doesn't really work out so well (if someone else commits some stuff to one part of a patch while you're working on another part of the same patch)
# [10:02] <hdelassus> thank you. How can I version my queue ?
# [10:02] <dholbert> hdelassus, when you create it in the first place, "hg qinit -c"
# [10:03] <dholbert> the -c makes it versioned
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# [10:03] <dholbert> if you already have an unversioned queue, just qpop everything, move your existing queue out of the way, "hg qinit -c", and then qimport your patches from the old one (or just move them over into the new .hg/patches, and cd into it and "hg add" as appropriate)
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# [10:07] <hdelassus> ok. can't we just share the patch and use qimport ?
# [10:08] <reuben> |hg qinit| is deprecated, FWIW, it's versioned by default
# [10:08] <Ms2ger> In what version?
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# [10:09] <reuben> idk, but it's not a recent change
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# [10:10] <reuben> Ms2ger: 1.5, apparently
# [10:11] <reuben> oh, nvm, it's deprecated because you're supposed to just do |hg init --mq|
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# [10:14] <Six> Ms2ger: HI, who is supposed to land patch from Bug 877746 in moz-inbound?
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# [10:14] <hdelassus> reuben: who is supposed to do |hg init --mq| ?
# [10:14] <hdelassus> me ?
# [10:15] <reuben> hdelassus: if you want to have a versioned patch queue, yes
# [10:15] <KWierso|Home> Six: if you have commit rights, that'd be you
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# [10:15] <Six> Kwierso|Home: i'm only lvl1, not sure to be able to land in moz-inbound
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# [10:15] <KWierso|Home> Six: if you don't, you should set the keywords field to "checkin-needed"
# [10:15] <Six> ok thanks :)
# [10:16] <reuben> Six: http://blog.bonardo.net/2010/06/22/so-youre-about-to-use-checkin-needed
# [10:20] <Six> reuben: Pretty usefull link, specially the part to avoid bitrotted patches, thanks
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# [10:23] <hdelassus> when I |hg add| the patch to the new repository, won't it be added to mozilla-central too ?
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# [10:25] <dholbert> hdelassus, nope. The patch is sitting in mozilla-central/.hg/patches, and it's outside the purview of mozilla-central's repo since it's inside of the .hg directory
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# [10:25] <hdelassus> I mean if the new repo is in mozilla-central/.hg/patches
# [10:25] <hdelassus> oh, ok
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# [10:30] <hdelassus> thank you very much :)
# [10:30] <dholbert> np!
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# [10:34] <dholbert> Six, probably worth giving that patch a Try push
# [10:34] <dholbert> Six, (and posting the TBPL link for the Try push on the bug)
# [10:35] <Six> dholbert: yep i just did it to be sure :)
# [10:36] <dholbert> Six, cool. :) best to do that before marking checkin-needed, because as soon as it's marked, someone might come by and land it immediately, and if it's not Try-tested yet, you might be setting them up for failure
# [10:36] <Six> dholbert: i compiled it on my linux64 before, but now i just launched a tbpl
# [10:36] <edmorley> dholbert: (as amusing as that might be... :-))
# [10:36] <dholbert> edmorley, :)
# [10:36] <Six> dholbert: yup i forgot i that's why i just launched it quickly
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# [10:37] <dholbert> Six, gotcha, cool
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# [10:37] <dholbert> Six, [this bit me on the last one, with that bizarre/evil Windows-only GetClassInfoW thing :)]
# [10:38] <dholbert> [but that was probably a rare case]
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# [10:45] <Six> dholbert: could you delete this build: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=c0973f1b77d9
# [10:45] <Six> dholbert: pushed the wrong version of the patch...
# [10:45] <dholbert> Six, I think you should be able to
# [10:45] <dholbert> Six, you should be able to stop it, I think (?)
# [10:46] <Six> dholbert: it's asking ldap auth but i can't pass it...
# [10:46] <dholbert> Six, oh, right, sorry
# [10:46] <dholbert> Six, done
# [10:46] <dholbert> Six, (I'd gotten ldap auth confused with ssh-key auth for pushing)
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# [10:48] <Six> dholbert: i don't understand why i can't access ldap since in my level access ticket this has been wroten: "Over to server ops for a new LDAP account and hg level 1 access."
# [10:49] <dholbert> Six, our LDAP accounts have various things that can be enabled/disabled
# [10:50] <dholbert> Six, as far as I know, your LDAP account just has a SSH key and an email address associated with it
# [10:50] <Six> dholbert: ok right
# [10:50] <dholbert> Six, but not a password, and not whichever privilege allows you to cancel builds (not sure exactly where that privilege comes from)
# [10:51] <dholbert> Six, (so I don't think you have a password that would make sense to enter into that LDAP prompt)
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# [10:51] <Six> dholbert: yup, i guess so
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# [11:07] <Gijs> edmorley: have we got some way to search for an assertion in tinderbox log files? As in, I want to know if this assertion has ever been triggered before, is there some way I can check? (save going through logs by hand, I guess)
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# [11:08] <edmorley> Gijs: sadly not really
# [11:08] <Gijs> OK.
# [11:09] <edmorley> we do store some log data is elastic search, but not everything iirc
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# [11:10] <edmorley> but the metrics ES db lost 3 months of prod data (and even if it hadn't, searching it directly is a bit of a pain since (a) ES and (b) VPN access required)
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# [11:11] <edmorley> if you wanted to explore that route just in case, jgriffin would be your best bet https://phonebook.mozilla.org/#search/griffin
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# [11:12] <Gijs> edmorley: OK. Good to know; in this case it sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
# [11:12] <edmorley> yeah agreed
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# [11:12] <Gijs> Essentially, I fixed a crash in XUL, and that hit assertions in debug builds, so you rightly backed me out of inbound.
# [11:12] <Gijs> However, I think the assertion is just bogus.
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# [11:13] <Gijs> it would have been nice if I could have checked if anyone else had hit it.
# [11:13] <Gijs> but if not, whatever, I'll just argue my case in the bug and see if people agree or not.
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# [11:46] <Yoric> What's the current status of WebRTC DataStream?
# [11:46] <Yoric> We have it on both Desktop and Android, don't we?
# [11:46] <padenot> DataChannel, you mean?
# [11:46] <Yoric> Sorry DataChannel.
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# [11:50] <darktrojan> ttaubert, ping?
# [11:50] <ttaubert> darktrojan: hey
# [11:51] <darktrojan> I have a question about preloaded new tabs
# [11:51] <darktrojan> how can I detect when they become visible?
# [11:51] <ttaubert> darktrojan: you mean, with a custom newtab page?
# [11:51] <darktrojan> yeah
# [11:52] <darktrojan> I'm trying to attach a listener to the window it gets put in so I can display a list of recently closed tabs
# [11:52] <ttaubert> darktrojan: there should be pageshow events fired by nsFrameLoader::SwapWithOtherLoader()
# [11:53] <darktrojan> ok I'll try that
# [11:54] <darktrojan> aha, that seems to work
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# [11:56] <darktrojan> ttaubert, it seems to fire before the swap happens
# [11:57] <darktrojan> hmm maybe there's two
# [11:57] <ttaubert> darktrojan: why don't you just register an overlay for about:newtab?
# [11:57] <ttaubert> sounds like you're monkey patching this stuff in the newtab page?
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# [11:58] <darktrojan> I am but I don't think an overlay would help me
# [11:59] <darktrojan> hmm I could patch the browser window to inject stuff into the page
# [11:59] <ttaubert> is that an add-on?
# [12:00] <darktrojan> it is
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# [12:02] <darktrojan> preloaded about:newtab doesn't appear to have document.hidden = true
# [12:03] <ttaubert> yeah it's supposed to be rendered
# [12:03] <ttaubert> so that preloading has an effect ;)
# [12:03] <darktrojan> we render background tabs don't we?
# [12:03] <ttaubert> the page itself shouldn't really be interested in whether it's being preloaded or not
# [12:04] <ttaubert> I didn't change anything for about:newtab, I just started preloading it
# [12:04] <darktrojan> no but I am mad :)
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# [12:04] <ttaubert> I mean, just treat it like a normal page
# [12:04] <ttaubert> register a XUL overlay for about:newtab's XUL window
# [12:04] <ttaubert> and inject your script file
# [12:04] <ttaubert> (unless you'd like to have a restartless add-on...)
# [12:05] <darktrojan> I already have one
# [12:05] <darktrojan> never mind I'll figure out a way
# [12:05] <darktrojan> [insert insanity wolf meme here]
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# [12:06] <ttaubert> hmm.
# [12:07] <ttaubert> darktrojan: a little hacky, but it could work:
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# [12:07] <Gijs> So is it just me or are XBL destructors totally not reliable?
# [12:08] <Gijs> As in, might not be called at all in some cases.
# [12:08] <darktrojan> Gijs, totally unreliable!
# [12:08] <ttaubert> darktrojan: the TabOpen event should be fired after the docShells have been swapped
# [12:08] <ttaubert> darktrojan: if you now check if gBrowser.selectedBrowser.contentDocument.readyState === "complete"
# [12:08] <Gijs> That is very sad.
# [12:08] <ttaubert> darktrojan: then the page has been preloaded
# [12:09] <darktrojan> that's a thought
# [12:09] <Gijs> darktrojan: how about constructors?
# [12:09] <darktrojan> pretty sure they're reliable Gijs
# [12:09] <darktrojan> just XBL destruction has never worked properly
# [12:12] <Gijs> sadfaces
# [12:14] <Gijs> we're going to have to fix that for web components, right?
# [12:14] <Gijs> Or maybe they don't have destructors...
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# [12:16] <Gijs> darktrojan: so let's say I have a node which has some binding (A), and now I remove an attribute so it won't have binding A, but it'll now have another binding (B) which shares a common superclass-binding (C) with binding A that was previously on the node
# [12:16] <Gijs> darktrojan: will the constructor for A fire?
# [12:17] <Gijs> Erm
# [12:17] <Gijs> For C.
# [12:17] <Gijs> Obviously.
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# [12:17] <darktrojan> pass
# [12:17] * darktrojan defers to NeilAway
# [12:17] <Gijs> darktrojan: in other words, will the shared superclass be re-constructed?
# [12:17] <Gijs> I was afraid of that. :(
# [12:18] <darktrojan> it's been a long time
# [12:18] <darktrojan> I don't even remember why I know destructors are bung
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# [12:19] <NeilAway> Gijs: I would assume that it does
# [12:19] <Gijs> NeilAway: OK. I'll try and test, then...
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# [12:29] <decoder> what component in bugzilla would bugs involving gfx/skia + gfx/2d go?
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# [12:30] <Yoric> gozala: Any chance you can get that review of bug 872421 you promised me for last week?
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# [12:31] <Gijs> decoder: I suspect Core :: Layout: View Rendering
# [12:31] <decoder> Gijs: thanks
# [12:32] <Gijs> decoder: could also be Core :: Graphics?
# [12:32] <Gijs> Depends on the bug, perhaps. :)
# [12:32] <decoder> Gijs: im seeing an alloc-dealloc mismatch
# [12:32] <decoder> one sec
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# [12:33] <decoder> Gijs: skia::ImageOperations::ResizeBasic is using malloc (through moz_xmalloc)
# [12:33] <decoder> and
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# [12:33] <decoder> SkRefCnt::unref is calling delete
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# [12:34] <Gijs> decoder: I don't actually know anything about graphics, sorry.
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# [12:34] <decoder> okay
# [12:34] <Ms2ger> Do we have a Skia component?
# [12:34] <Gijs> decoder: if roc is still awake, he might know.
# [12:34] <Ms2ger> Otherwise gfx
# [12:34] <Gijs> Ms2ger: enter_bug.cgi says no.
# [12:34] <decoder> i guess ill file it in the gfx component then
# [12:34] <@roc> Core :: Graphics
# [12:34] <decoder> thanks roc
# [12:34] <decoder> roc: is this any dangerous? (calling delete on malloced memory)
# [12:34] <decoder> im actually not sure
# [12:35] <decoder> asan warns about this
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# [12:35] <@roc> it should be fixed
# [12:35] <decoder> "warn" as in terminate the program ;)
# [12:35] <@roc> I think we're using the same allocators
# [12:35] <@roc> so technically it's probably OK
# [12:35] <decoder> okay. ill get the bug on file
# [12:35] <decoder> they have an option to disable this sort of check, so we can work around it until it's fixed
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# [12:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2c12dc46fcd2 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
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# [12:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ddb7b23166ef - Ed Morley - Merge latest green birch changeset and mozilla-central
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# [12:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ace064f09f79 - Michael Wu - Backout bug 869903 for test failures
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# [12:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8dc5770ad79d - Jim Mathies - Bug 877361 - Modify navbar transitions somewhat to avoid the 'gaping' problem between the soft keyboard and navbar. r=fryn, mbrubeck
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# [13:27] <darktrojan> ttaubert, fixed it :) https://github.com/darktrojan/newtabtools/blob/master/bootstrap.js#L121
# [13:28] <darktrojan> I'm fixing extensions for nightly before the bit that breaks it becomes nightly :/
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# [13:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a88cc7dbd56 - Jonathan Kew - bug 875629 - reftest for SVG glyph encoded using a supplementary-plane variation sequence. r=roc
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# [13:48] <Gijs> When we've got a new profile, and first open the browser window, whose responsibility is it to set the sizemode attribute to an appropriate value? Widget code? Or is this elsewhere?
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# [13:53] <darktrojan> it just doesn't have one
# [13:53] <darktrojan> should be maximized IMO, but isn't
# [13:53] <darktrojan> Gijs, ^
# [13:54] <Gijs> darktrojan: it should have one corresponding to its initial state, I would think...
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# [13:54] <Gijs> which AFAICT should be "normal"
# [13:56] <darktrojan> it is normal
# [13:57] <darktrojan> just checked
# [13:57] <NeilAway> Gijs: well, the widget notifies the webshell when it's resized, which then sets the sizemode, but I don't know whether the initial resize is covered
# [13:57] <Gijs> NeilAway: at least on UX, the answer seems to be "no"
# [13:58] <Gijs> on my nightly debug build, there does seem to be one set by the time I can check.
# [13:58] <Gijs> but that might be because there is a resize for some reason.
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# [14:00] <Gijs> Ah, no, on opt there isn't.
# [14:00] <Gijs> hrm.
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# [14:01] <Gijs> NeilAway: so for consistency's sake, I think this should just always be set. I can workaround by changing browser.xul, or I can try to figure out widget code...
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# [14:01] <Gijs> NeilAway: strong feelings about which I should be doing?
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# [14:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c2dadbc0908 - Dan Gohman - Bug 875929 - Generalize the code for materializing double constants. In particular, this new code handles 0x7ff8000000000000, a common NaN. To support this, implement
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# [14:01] <firebot> js_bitscan_ctz64 for 32-bit targets. r=evilpies
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# [14:02] <Gijs> Ah, I forgot it did that.
# [14:02] <darktrojan> firebot, botsnack
# [14:02] <firebot> yay
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# [14:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd5698ce0440 - Paul Adenot - Bug 877527.
# [14:09] <mjrosenb> wtb: multi-object contexts
# [14:09] <mjrosenb> so foo.bar() passes foo as this for bar
# [14:10] <mjrosenb> I want something where foo.bar.baz() will pass both foo and bar into baz.
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# [14:10] <Gijs> mjrosenb: on top of each other or separate?
# [14:11] <Gijs> (on top as in, prototype-chained)
# [14:11] <Gijs> if separate, how would you access whatever's not |this| ?
# [14:11] <mjrosenb> Gijs: separate, and in C++, not js.
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# [14:12] <Gijs> Ah.
# [14:12] <mjrosenb> Gijs: dunno, this, and this_parent (and this_parent_parent...)
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# [14:14] <mjrosenb> *aactually* what I want is something slightly more generic than this
# [14:14] <mjrosenb> but that would nigh-impossible to implement
# [14:14] <mjrosenb> or use.
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# [14:50] <Six> dholbert: ping?
# [14:51] <avih> vlad: does SVG renders somehow asynchronously? i.e. not directly from refresh driver ticks? i'm asking because with layout.frame_rate set to 10k, and running a talos tsvg test (animates with rAF), at the browser i can see it animates, but within talos run, even with 200 animation frames, i only see the last frame on screen. it's like all the intermediate updates are somehow stacked, and only when they stop, it flushes them to screen. does
# [14:51] <avih> that make sense?
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# [14:52] <avih> vlad: but if i set it to 500 iterations, then i can see it animate also within talos
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# [14:54] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, what's our stance on https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/default/media-source/media-source.html ?
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# [14:55] <avih> vlad: and the runtime of such tsvg test is also about 20% shorter within talos than when at the browser, so it really does less when i can't see it animate
# [14:55] <gaston> Callek: meh, pity :( still plans for 2.19 i hope ?
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# [14:58] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, yeah, the patch ended up in my queue somehow... Should I review the spec too?
# [14:59] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: do you mean you are asked to review the patch?
# [14:59] <Ms2ger> Feedback
# [14:59] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: Well, reading the spec wouldn't hurt in that case. :-)
# [15:00] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, alright
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# [15:00] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: anyway, MSE means we don't need to support DASH natively and sites get to implement their own DASH clients in JS with their own adaptation logic
# [15:01] <Ms2ger> I guess that's good, then
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# [15:02] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: yes, in the sense that sites that want to micromanage get to micromanage. (Sites that don't care about the details can take a JS lib off the shelf.)
# [15:02] <NeilAway> Gijs: I don't know why you need it to be set, but if you do, you should set it yourself
# [15:02] <Gijs> NeilAway: ok.
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# [15:04] <@roc> don't move MSE to the back of the queue. If you don't want to review it, we can find another reviewer.
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# [15:05] <Ms2ger> roc, my queue has about 3 patches, I think it'll survive being at the back ;)
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# [15:05] <@roc> ah ok :-)
# [15:05] <@roc> well, it depends on what the other 2 patches are :-)
# [15:06] <Ms2ger> Nothing much
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# [15:13] <avih> vlad: fwiw, this "lazy screen update" thing is apparent on both linux and windows when running within talos, and does show the animation when running with the same browser binary (and with the same frame_rate=10000 pref) on both windows and linux
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# [15:14] <gaston> User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; OpenBSD sparc64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0a1
# [15:15] <gaston> whohoooo
# [15:15] <gaston> it works!
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# [15:16] <RyanVM> Six: dholbert is in mountain view, so it's only 6:15am for him :)
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# [15:17] <Ms2ger> stransky, glandium is moving to Japan right now, he'll be back in three weeks or so
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# [15:17] <stransky> ah, i see...thanks!
# [15:17] <Ms2ger> stransky, you may have more luck with ted or khuey|away
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# [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/008c33fca4a7 - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 878043 - allow get_binary_path to return a path for any binary. r=glandium
# [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b379faea096 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 746244 - Port profileserver.py to Mozbase. r=jhammel
# [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d8bf758f408 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 746244 - clean up a few things in genpgocert.py. r=jmaher
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# [15:20] <stransky> ted, hi, can you review gtk3 makefile/moz.build changes? in all directories, like xpcom/toolkit and so...? I used to ask Mike but he's away now...
# [15:20] <@ted> stransky: yeah, that's fine, although my queue is a little messy right now
# [15:20] <@ted> what with glandium mostly out and gps on vacation
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# [15:20] <@ted> not a good time for build reviews :-(
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# [15:21] <mak> edmorley: looking at that zoom review now, not going to post this on the bug to avoid useless spam
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# [15:21] <stransky> ted, thanks. I promise the changes are clean and easy to follow
# [15:21] <edmorley> mak: ok, thank you :-)
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# [15:22] <Six> RyanVM: thanks but i never understand when he is sleeping as sometimes he answers to strange hours ;)
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# [15:22] <RyanVM> heh
# [15:23] <Six> was talking to him 4 hours ago
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# [15:25] <RyanVM> Six: sounds like Callek has competition then
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# [15:30] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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# [15:31] <yzen> Yoric: if you have a moment, I had a couple of questions about the osx readahead..
# [15:32] <Yoric> Yes, for once, I have a moment :)
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# [15:32] <yzen> Yoric: nice :). so one of them is about the _readahead api
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# [15:34] <yzen> Yoric: in my previous patch i had offset and size args, but i removed them for this one since we read the whole file.. it should be fine to put it back, except for 1 issue, _read does not actually have the offset options afaik
# [15:34] <Yoric> Indeed, _read does not have the offset option.
# [15:34] <yzen> Yoric: i did add it in the previous iteration, but you mentioned i might be changing the api of _read
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# [15:35] <Yoric> Well, |OS.File.read| has a single possibility for |offset| (it's always 0) and knows the number of bytes intended.
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# [15:36] <Yoric> I would like |OS.File.read| to use readahead, but not |OS.File.prototype.{read, readTo}|.
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# [15:37] <yzen> Yoric: alright
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# [15:38] <yzen> Yoric: also the off64_t comment, I pretty much grabbed a version of a comment for off_t, that mentioned both positive and negative
# [15:38] <Yoric> Mmmmh...
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# [15:39] <Yoric> In that case, use int64_t instead of uint64_t.
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# [15:39] <yzen> Yoric: sounds good
# [15:39] <Yoric> (and I just double-checked, you are right, off_t should be signed)
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# [15:40] <yzen> Yoric: also, regarding the readahead being available for the platform, afaik declareFFI returns null if something is not, could i use that as a check?
# [15:41] <Yoric> Only for part if the check.
# [15:41] <Yoric> i.e. fcntl is available on most Unix platforms, but it only implements read-ahead on MacOS X.
# [15:41] <avih> vlad: half unping. tried the talos profile in a stand alone run and it behaves badly again. disabled the PageLoader talos addon, and it behaves normally. still investigating.
# [15:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/53c447ff5fd3 - ffxbld - Automated checkin: version bump for firefox 22.0b4 release. DONTBUILD CLOSED TREE a=release
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# [15:42] <yzen> Yoric: right, ok most of my questions are answered :) just the last one , any thoughts on how to test this operation?
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# [15:42] <yzen> Yoric: and sorry, i still did not get a chance to take a look at the sqlite bug
# [15:42] <Yoric> yzen: None, I am afraid.
# [15:43] <Yoric> No problem about the sqlite bug, there are only so many things one can be working on at a given moment.
# [15:43] <yzen> Yoric: things like measuring read and read with readahead would not be reliable, right ?
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# [15:43] <Yoric> yzen: No, they wouldn't.
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# [15:44] <yzen> that's what i thought
# [15:44] <Yoric> I believe that the only thing you can do is ensure that read with/without readahead returns the same result.
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# [15:45] <yzen> Yoric: alright ill take a look at that, and thanks!
# [15:45] <Yoric> thanks
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# [15:55] <mjrosenb> if I make an iterator, NewIterator iter(foo) modify foo when the iterator's destructor is called, is this horribly confusing / will lead to broken code?
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# [15:59] <Gijs> Is our FTP server really unhappy? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23811882&tree=UX
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# [16:00] <Gijs> (and/or have we got a bug for tracking tbpl failures like this?
# [16:00] <RyanVM> Gijs: we usually just star them i;r and retrigger
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# [16:00] <RyanVM> unless it's a mass issue
# [16:00] <RyanVM> (i've seen a couple 503's this morning, but nothing to indicate a major issue)
# [16:00] <Gijs> It's not. Cool!
# [16:01] <RyanVM> busy time of day with nightlies and such
# [16:02] <Gijs> hrm, perhaps I shouldn't have retriggered then...
# [16:02] <Gijs> wasn't the most important test to run against that cset.
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# [16:10] <glandium> mjrosenb: why would you have an iterator that modifies what it iterates?
# [16:10] <Ms2ger> Because this is the web
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# [16:15] <mjrosenb> glandium: it is a container that is made up of many smaller containers
# [16:16] <mjrosenb> glandium: keeping track of the size is somewhat time consuming, so I want to do it lazily, as we attempt to iterate over the constituent containers.
# [16:17] <Ms2ger> ehsan, do you get paid by number of bugs touched, perhaps?
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# [16:18] <mjrosenb> glandium: does that make any sense?
# [16:20] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: no, but I take pleasure in filling people's inboxes ;)
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# [16:20] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: but that duckityduck was for this purpose!
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# [16:21] <simonab> Hi all. How can I access a DOM element without an id for clicking it? it does have two classes, but I cam't use element.click() if I declare it with getElementsByClassname. If I access the element with document.queryselector('class1, clas2') it returns null.
# [16:21] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you like flooding? You haven't been in South Germany lately?
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# [16:21] <Ms2ger> simonab, what?
# [16:21] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: not recently!
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# [16:22] <bz_away> simonab: How would you select this element in CSS? ;)
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# [16:22] <Ms2ger> Good morning
# [16:22] <bz_away> hey
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# [16:24] <davidb> "abort: cannot refresh immutable revision" ?
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# [16:24] <davidb> do i want to mess with phases?
# [16:25] <padenot> hg phase -d -f tip
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# [16:25] <Gijs> want to, probably not, need to, sounds like it.
# [16:25] <Gijs> what padenot said. :)
# [16:25] <simonab> bz: document.getElementById().className?
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# [16:26] <davidb> padenot: qtip?
# [16:26] <Gijs> simonab: I think bz means, what CSS selector would you use to select the element in CSS?
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# [16:26] <padenot> ah yes, qtip indeed
# [16:26] <davidb> ok worked - thanks
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# [16:27] <bz> simonab: no, if you were writing CSS to apply to that element
# [16:28] <bz> simonab: how would you write it?
# [16:28] <bz> In other words, what Gijs says
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# [16:31] <simonab> I'm trying to access the cancel download button from the panel, so: .downloadButton.downloadCancel
# [16:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/87f0ed19ef8d - Scott Johnson - Bug 873721: Remove positioning code for reflow-on-zoom when pinch-zooming to provide a better user experience.[r=kats]
# [16:31] <Ms2ger> querySelector(".downloadButton.downloadCancel") then
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# [16:32] <simonab> "Exception:element is null"
# [16:32] <bz> simonab: Did you write what ms2ger said, or what you said above?
# [16:32] <bz> simonab: because what you said above doesn't match what he said
# [16:32] <simonab> bz: what Ms2ger said:
# [16:32] <simonab> var panel = document.querySelector('.downloadButton.downloadCancel');
# [16:33] <Ms2ger> And did you confirm that it worked in CSS in the first place?
# [16:33] <simonab> panel.click();
# [16:33] <bz> Is this an anonymous element?
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# [16:34] <simonab> if you mean with no id, then yes
# [16:34] <simonab> didn't try in CSS
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# [16:34] <bz> no, I mean as in "not actually in the DOM"
# [16:34] <bz> And it sure is
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# [16:34] <bz> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/downloads/content/download.xml#50
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# [16:35] <bz> Is your script part of that binding?
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# [16:39] <slimer> Hi,My mentor tell me "please can you mark any obsolete patches with attaching new ones."
# [16:39] <slimer> what's that mean?
# [16:40] <sheppy> When attaching a patch, there's an option to mark old attachments as obsolete. You need to do that.
# [16:40] <sheppy> If there's an old version of the same patch.
# [16:41] <slimer> Yes
# [16:41] <simonab> bz: I'm trying to write a chrome test, so I guess no
# [16:41] <simonab> just trying to access the element for starters and click it afterwards :)
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# [16:42] <firebot> Check-in:
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# [16:42] <slimer> Thanks a lot
# [16:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25ea966531ca - Dan Gohman - Bug 875929 - Now that js_bitscan_ctz64 and js_bitscan_clz64 are implemented on all platforms, clean up some compatibility code which isn't needed anymore. r=evilpies
# [16:42] <slimer> :)
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# [16:45] <bz> simonab: This is an anonymous element
# [16:45] <bz> simonab: So you have to poke inside the binding's anonymous content to access it
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# [16:51] <Gijs> simonab, bz: document.getAnonymousElementByAttribute(document.getElementById("downloadsListBox"), "class", "downloadButton downloadCancel")
# [16:51] <Gijs> egh, copy paste fail.
# [16:51] <Gijs> document.getAnonymousElementByAttribute(document.getElementById("downloadsListBox").children[0], "class", "downloadButton downloadCancel")
# [16:51] <Gijs> (assuming that there's at least one download in the panel)
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# [16:52] <Gijs> simonab: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XBL/XBL_1.0_Reference/DOM_Interfaces#getAnonymousElementByAttribute for how that works (more or less, anyway)
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# [16:54] <Gijs> simonab: of course, if someone swaps the classes around ("downloadCancel downloadButton"), it won't work anymore... :)
# [16:54] <simonab> Gijs: That's the one!...thanks a lot guys !!! I owe you one.:)
# [16:55] <simonab> I'll do some reading...thanks
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# [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a33154335e37 - Vladimir Vukicevic - b=843599; use gralloc buffers for WebGL streaming on B2G; r=nical,jgilbert,jrmuizel
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# [17:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f00dba4fef63 - David Bolter - Bug 577727 - Make pinned tabs distinguishable from other tabs for accessibility. r=marcoz
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# [17:07] <edmorley> evilpie: bug 875929 burning (don't know Dan's irc nick)
# [17:07] <edmorley> evilpie: clobber needed?
# [17:07] <RyanVM> edmorley: I think it's clobber-needed
# [17:07] <RyanVM> was just doing that
# [17:07] <edmorley> ta
# [17:08] <RyanVM> (which begs another question, but still...)
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# [17:09] <avih> vlad: re-ping. we identified that the issue is not limited to talos profile or the talos addon. it's related to raf@10khz and firefox having only one tab open. at this case, if we animate (tried also some of the tscroll tests with same results), then the screen doesn't update at rAF. open another tab which does nothing, and the screen does update (tscroll, tsvg, etc). this happens with recent nightlies with any profile. any idea what's going
# [17:09] <avih> on? it's as if presentation to screen happens asynchronously, and when firefox is choked, then it doesn't happen. but AFAIK, right now, on linux and windows (where the issue was observed), presentation is synchronous. is it not?
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# [17:14] <@ted> edmorley: so that mac mochitest-other crash on my push is interesting https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23814952&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [17:15] <@ted> but can't possibly be my fault, since none of those scripts i changed in that push run on mac builds
# [17:15] <mib_c5vl1e> well I still don't know how to obsolete patches with attaching new ones.
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# [17:15] <edmorley> ted: a bunch of js/xpconnect changes landed in the last 24hrs, imagine just intermittent fallout
# [17:16] <@ted> edmorley: yeah :-/
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# [17:16] <mib_c5vl1e> It's my first time to submit patch, can anybody help me?
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# [17:17] <Gijs> mib_c5vl1e: are you on the "Create an attachment" screen ?
# [17:17] <mib_c5vl1e> Yes
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# [17:17] <Gijs> mib_c5vl1e: scroll down to the bottom, just above the "Comment", and perhaps "Reassignment" fields, there's an item named "Obsoletes"
# [17:18] <Gijs> check the boxes for the patches/attachments that your patch obsoletes.
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# [17:20] <Gijs> How do I ask mercurial when a file was removed? :s
# [17:20] <@ehsan> vlad: http://apps.playcanvas.com/playcanvas/scifi/latest
# [17:20] <Ms2ger> hg log --removed
# [17:20] <Gijs> ugh. Why isn't that the default? :(
# [17:20] <Gijs> Ms2ger: thanks!
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# [17:22] <Ms2ger> mib_c5vl1e, http://i.imgur.com/MXrBuyO.png
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# [17:23] <@ted> edmorley: FYI if you see any weirdness with PGO builds after my push let me know
# [17:24] <@ted> i did test PGO builds on Try with it, but you never know
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# [17:24] <edmorley> ted ok :-)
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# [17:25] <@ted> also valgrind builds since they use that script
# [17:25] <@ted> and there's no way to test them on try
# [17:25] <@ted> whee
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# [17:27] <philor> inbound's looking rather like someone needs to push a touch of /CLOBBER
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# [17:28] <edmorley> philor: RyanVM has clobbered, think was waiting for confirmation it was resolving the issue before touching clobber
# [17:28] <vlad> weird, what caused a needed clobber?
# [17:28] <edmorley> vlad: 25ea966531ca
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# [17:29] <philor> edmorley: only clobbered windows, though, not everything, and we're burning everything
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# [17:29] <edmorley> philor: ah; reclobbering all
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# [17:31] <edmorley> philor: thank you
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# [17:32] <pnkfelix> I have a question about building a custom libnspr.dylib and linking it with a build of js shell on OS X. Is this a reasonable channel to find people capable of answering Q's on this topic?
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# [17:35] <pnkfelix> (okay interpreting silence as confirmation)
# [17:35] <pnkfelix> So historically I've built an nspr and installed it whereever its default installation is, probably /usr/local
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# [17:37] <pnkfelix> but that build of nspr started breaking my compiles recently, and I couldn't figure out what was going wrong, so I decided to try to put my builds into a more controlled space (e.g. a local directory, ~/opt/nspr-dbg/, or ~/opt/npsr/, depending on which I want to link)
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# [17:37] <RyanVM> edmorley: philor: I think we need to file a moz.build bug on that
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# [17:38] <pnkfelix> So I use "—prefix=~/opt/nspr" as appropriate when configuring nspr
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# [17:38] <pnkfelix> and I'm trying to then use flags when building spidermonkey: --with-system-nspr --with-nspr-prefix=/Users/fklock/opt/nspr-dbg
# [17:38] <pnkfelix> the whole build completes, but then when I run the resulting js shell, I get:
# [17:38] <evilpie> edmorley: ah was outside
# [17:39] <pnkfelix> % ./js
# [17:39] <pnkfelix> dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/libnspr4.dylib
# [17:39] <pnkfelix> Referenced from: /Users/fklock/Dev/Mozilla/iontrail-wip/objdir-dbg-js/./js
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# [17:39] <evilpie> edmorley: his nick is sunfish
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# [17:39] <edmorley> evilpie: thank you
# [17:39] <evilpie> np
# [17:39] <evilpie> we are good now?
# [17:39] <edmorley> evilpie: yup
# [17:39] <pnkfelix> I've been trying to dissect this, to figure out whether @executable_path can possibly be the right thing in this context, or if the linker invocation being created is incorrect
# [17:39] <evilpie> +1
# [17:40] <RyanVM> edmorley: I'll file
# [17:40] <edmorley> RyanVM: thank you
# [17:41] <evilpie> edmorley: so we need to clobber because of the removed file?
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# [17:42] <sunfish> edmorley: should I have checked in a clobber?
# [17:42] <edmorley> sunfish, evilpie: : the dependencies should work, this is a build system bug - RyanVM is going to file on it
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# [17:42] <RyanVM> filed bug 879809
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# [17:43] <edmorley> sunfish: presuming the retriggers come back green, we'll modify the CLOBBER file to force a clobber as the changeset merges from tree to tree, and then hopefully at some point later the build system bug will be fixed
# [17:43] <pnkfelix> I can do "% DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/opt/nspr-dbg/lib ./js", and that runs. But I'm still wondering whether there is some way to build the js shell so that I do not need to override that environment variable?
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# [17:52] <pnkfelix> e.g. I am wondering why the js shell links to libnspr4.dylib via @executable_path rather than via @rpath. I spent a little while trying to dissect the history of the configure.in to find associated Bugzilla tickets, but this was not as fruitful as I had hoped.
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# [17:54] <@smaug> pnkfelix: #jsapi might know more about js shell
# [17:54] <pnkfelix> smaug: Heh. Okay I'll go over there.
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# [17:54] <padenot> pnkfelix: -rpath ?
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# [17:55] <pnkfelix> padenot: I don't think the generated makefile on OS X uses -rpath. But putting that in might get the behavior I am looking for
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# [17:56] <RyanVM> bholley: i'll re-push with the js:: removed
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# [17:57] <bholley> RyanVM: ok, cool. Note that I can't test it locally
# [17:57] <RyanVM> bholley: i have no qualms about burning esr17 again :P
# [17:57] <bholley> RyanVM: :-)
# [17:57] <RyanVM> i'll wait to push b2g18 until esr17 is clear, though
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# [17:58] <philor> tn: you're not going to get any more reftests on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=22324647f528 because the job only knew to trigger on slaves that no longer exist
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# [17:58] <tn> philor, yeah, i figured, i pushed new try jobs last night already. thanks!
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# [17:59] <tn> philor, also thanks for cleaning up my mess again last night after i went to bed
# [17:59] <philor> tn: I like those incredibly rare ones where I can actually figure out what's wrong :)
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# [18:01] <avih> vlad: also related: with rAF@10khz, other animations also don't always render all frames to screen. for instance: tab animation. while 10khz raf is not typical, it might suggest that when firefox is choked, presentation frames are skipped someplace, possibly at the OS, but didn't research this deep. this might be very meaningful for firefox even at normal refresh rates, but with high load.
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# [18:03] <avih> Bas: ping
# [18:03] <Bas> avih: pong
# [18:03] <avih> Bas: wuz up? :)
# [18:03] <avih> Bas: ^
# [18:03] <Bas> avih: Meh, same shit, different day :)
# [18:04] <avih> lol
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# [18:04] <avih> next time try same day, different shit :p
# [18:04] <Bas> Hehe :)
# [18:04] <tn> philor, i can make some more silly mistakes so it's easy to diagnose if you'd like :)
# [18:04] <Bas> How may I be of assistance?
# [18:04] <avih> Bas: ^ what i directed to vlad
# [18:05] <avih> Bas: "rAF@10khz" == layout.frame_rate=10000
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# [18:05] <nemo> so. what kill signal avoids abnormal shutdown of firefox?
# [18:06] <mwu> I don't think we have a handler setup for that
# [18:06] <greatwarrior> ehsan: hello.
# [18:06] <philor> tn: timing's everything, though, you can't do them now while someone else might snatch up the opportunity before I figure it out
# [18:06] <Bas> avih: If firefox is choked doesn't it make sense that presents are missed?
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# [18:06] <nemo> SIGHUP?
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# [18:07] <avih> Bas: don't know. if they're presented synchronously, then i wouldn't expect them to be missed, and AFAIK, right now they're still presented sync from the refresh driver. are they not?
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# [18:08] <Bas> avih: On most platforms, kind of, I don't think completely synchronous but I'm not sure, but I think the refresh drivers posts an event to the event loop to do the paint, right? It doesn't run the paint directly.
# [18:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3519bf161631 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 876348 - Fix possible NPE in GLController. r=snorp
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# [18:09] <avih> Bas: ok, this explains the observation them. i thought they're fully synchronous. so, how much processing is handling the paint event? i.e. does it ftill flushes the layout anyway even if it's not presented? etc
# [18:09] <nemo> nope. not sighup apparently :-/
# [18:09] <avih> still*
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# [18:09] <Bas> avih: I have no idea about the details, roc or mattwoodrow would likely know, Timothy Nickel as well.
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# [18:10] <froydnj> nemo: there's a bug open about properly shutting down when responding to signal handlers
# [18:10] <avih> Bas: cool. good pointers. thanks, and you may now get back to your new shit :)
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# [18:10] <nemo> froydnj: ah. ok. so the answer was None of the Above
# [18:10] <nemo> thanks
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# [18:11] <Bas> Hehe :)
# [18:11] <avih> tn: ping
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# [18:12] <tn> avih, hi
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# [18:15] <avih> tn: hey :) could use some help in understanding the process of rendering. first, the observation: when firefox is choked, some frames aren't presented to screen. i choked firefox by iterating some animation using requestAnimationFrame, and I set layout.frame_rate to 10000. this causes the refresh driver to iterate as fast as possible, while still returning control to the main event loop after each iteration. the result is not, and sometimes
# [18:15] <avih> none, of the animation frames are disaplyed on screen, even if the animation lasts a long while (300ms), and then it displays the final frame. so first, does this observation make sense to you? i.e. is it expected?
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# [18:16] <tn> avih, what platform?
# [18:17] <avih> tn: windows 7 and linux (ubuntu 13.04 in a VM)
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# [18:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fe9dcdf48551 - Evan Wallace - Bug 879374 - Add mozPressure support for OS X. r=smichaud
# [18:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14bd2ec730ae - Arnaud Sourioux - Bug 877746 - Annotate ~230 methods with MOZ_OVERRIDE in /dom. r=Ms2ger
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# [18:19] <avih> tn: also, for some reason which i can't think of, this happens when firefox has one tab, but does render to screen exactly the same case if there are two tabs at firefox.
# [18:19] <avih> this is also reproducible on both platforms
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# [18:20] <avih> actually. not true. i only tested the one/two tabs on linux.
# [18:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f4a4ae3629d - Florian Quèze - Bug 878419 - Syntax error in make_incremental_updates.py since bug 841094, r=glandium.
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# [18:21] <tn> avih, on linux i think we are perfectly capable of starving paints
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# [18:22] <avih> tn: ok, and it definitely happens on windows too. i tested it
# [18:22] <tn> avih, windows has some code to try to make sure paint events don't get starved for too long
# [18:23] <tn> avih, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindow.cpp#3715
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# [18:23] <tn> avih, but that might only interact with os level events, not gecko events
# [18:23] <avih> tn: i see. so starving can happen under some conditions. this makes sense. so now my real question: when paint gets starved, what exactly isN'T processed? e.g. is the layout still flushed? (i believe it is, since this happens, before OMTC, directly from the refresh driver), etc?
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# [18:24] <tn> avih, we are talking about a pre-OMTC world right? that is what i assumed
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# [18:25] <avih> tn: indeed. OMTC could require further consideration, but right now pre OMTC.
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# [18:25] <tn> avih, yeah, layout should be flushed, and even the retained layers contents should be updated via the refresh driver i would expect
# [18:25] <avih> tn: good to hear. so what wouldn't get processed?
# [18:25] <tn> avih, then we wait for the OS to send us a paint even before we put the retained contents on the screen
# [18:26] <tn> avih, the code i linked to in nsWindow.cpp tries to make sure we process those paint events in a reasonable timely fashion
# [18:26] <avih> tn: is this "put the retained contents to screen" part a meaningful cpu consumer on firefox's part?
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# [18:27] <avih> tn: (i'll get to the scenario where it's relevant in a bit)
# [18:27] <tn> avih, that should be quick. that is compositing the retained layer tree
# [18:27] <tn> avih, well, i dunno, it definitely takes time
# [18:27] <avih> tn: so it's not just one OS call?
# [18:28] <tn> avih, no.
# [18:28] <avih> tn: it's actually doing some processing of data, then calling the OS API?
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# [18:28] <tn> avih, yeah. with accelerated layers it would offload the work to the gpu
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# [18:29] <tn> avih, if you wanted to see what is actually happening i would see how often the ProcessPendingUpdates call in the refresh driver is happening, and also how often you do nsWindow::OnPaint
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# [18:30] <avih> tn: i can tell that on my specific case, it only paints to screen once the animation is over and the load is removed. here's my case:
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# [18:31] <avih> tn: ok. so i'd appreciate your opinion on this: the scenario i'm working on is improving talos tests such they actually represent performance, and specifically tsvg and tscroll. as it happens, both these suites iterated animations using timeouts,. needless to say, the runtime of animation + long-timeouts doesn't really represent the performance of firefox on these cases.
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# [18:32] <avih> tn: so i changed the iterations to rAF and made it iterate as fast as possible by changing the refresh rate pref. this works well, and the runtime now actually correlates to the load which the test creates.
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# [18:33] <avih> tn: however, it also happens to absolutely starve paints. and while the runtime still correlates to the generated load, it also skips on some processing (paints) which don't get measured.
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# [18:34] <avih> tn: i don't think that the current architecture could measure both: if we choke on animation, then paints get starved. if we let it breath, then the runtime doesn't represent the load which the animation generates.
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# [18:35] <tn> avih, do you want to fix talos or stop paints from being starved in general?
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# [18:36] <avih> tn: fix talos. the starve regime doesn't sound like a bug
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# [18:37] <avih> tn: currently, i tend to keep rAF@10khz, and live with the starved paints, since it still represents animation load well enough.
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# [18:38] <avih> tn: the important thing i wanted to know is why doesn't the screen update. i thought it could be a bug, and wanted to understand how it works, with which you helped. thanks.
# [18:39] <avih> tn: what do you think of it? meaningful performance (svg etc) regression measurements with raf@10khz?
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# [18:39] <tn> avih, you don't think the starved paints is a bug? sounds like it would be better if we didn't do that
# [18:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48afaae197ab - Gavin Sharp - Bug 878291: define RELEASE_BUILD/NIGHTLY_BUILD in the js configure too, r=ted
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# [18:39] <tn> avih, and if we actually painted to the screen during talos that would better represent what we are actually doing during animation
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# [18:40] <avih> tn: you said it could get starved and there are limits to that when it's painted anyway. sounds to me by design, and possibly only tuning of the threshold. and also, raf@10khz is very untipical, hough choked firefox is something which could also happen with normal refresh rates, with similar results.
# [18:40] <avih> tn: absolutely agreed that it's preferrable to have both, yes.
# [18:41] <tn> avih, we try to serve paint events every 50ms, your testcases shows that we are failing at that.
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# [18:42] <tn> avih, if we fixed the starved paints then that would fix your talos problem too
# [18:42] <avih> tn: if that's the case, then yes. i saw more than 1000ms of animation with no screen updates
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# [18:44] <avih> tn: regardless of such bug though, what i understand that animation wuth raf@10khz is a valid approach to measure performance, and the lack of screen updates could be another bug, but which doesn't invalidate the approach. correct?
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# [18:45] <tn> avih, it measures one aspect of perfomance, but our end product is putting something on the screen. that is really what we want to measure.
# [18:46] <vlad> avih: hmm
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# [18:46] <vlad> avih: I don't see how they could be skipped
# [18:46] <avih> tn: yes, but you say there's a bug under load, and that the "paint" part is _relatively_ small compared to the other processing (pre-OMTC), and my measurements approve this: i get about 20% speedup without the screen updates.
# [18:46] <vlad> avih: though, are you on win7 with the DWM enabled?
# [18:46] <vlad> I guess they could/will get dropped at the DWM layer
# [18:47] <avih> vlad: yes. but this also happens on linux (ubuntu 13.04 vm)
# [18:47] <tn> avih, i make no claims about the time of the "paint" part
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# [18:47] <avih> tn: you didn't claim indeed, just said it should be relatively quick, and i measured about 20% speedup without the screen updates. so it correlates
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# [18:48] <tn> avih, and then i followed that comment up by saying "i dunno...". and 20% is not small. we should not skip measuring 20% of an important number.
# [18:48] <tn> avih, i don't have any specific knowledge of how long that part of the process takes, anything i said earlier was just guessing
# [18:50] <avih> tn: right now tsvg and tscroll doesn't measure anything useful, because they iterate at fixed rate regardless of actual load. the screen not updating for so long could be a real issue indeed, but 1. should be fixed regardless and 2. tsvg would still be MUCH more useful @10khz and 3. it would just show different results when the screen updates more frequently.
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# [18:51] <avih> tn: my main concern is to make svg more useful. you also identified another issue as bug, which i'll file.
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# [18:53] <avih> tn: should i mention linux and windows at the same bug? or should i file two?
# [18:53] <avih> the symptoms look identical
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# [18:54] <avih> vlad: tn: could any of you see any relation between lack of screen updates and the number of tabs at firefox? when I had two tabs (the other being about:newtab) the issue seems mostly fixed.
# [18:55] <avih> but it was always apparent with one tab
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# [18:56] <tn> avih, file one bug, it can be split off if someone investigates deeper
# [18:56] <tn> avih, i have no idea about the tab thing
# [18:56] <avih> tn: ok. cc you on it?
# [18:56] <tn> avih, sure
# [18:57] <avih> tn: i will. thanks for the info.
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# [19:01] <avih> tn: how is the 50ms threshold used, using a timer?
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# [19:01] <avih> tn: maybe just moving it to the event loop handler, or to the refresh driver ticks fix it?
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# [19:02] <NeilAway> ah, the irony, touching CLOBBER with DONTBUILD
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# [19:03] <avih> tn: assuming timers are starved when firefox is under high load from the content.. this could have far reaching effects...
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# [19:05] <avih> tn: though obviously, the refresh driver does iterate... so no starvation there.
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# [19:05] <tn> avih, no, it just checks the elapsed time when we process os events each time, if its been more than 50 ms since the last paint we try to paint. so if we aren't processing os events because we are stuck processing gecko events, that could be one explanation, but would have to be checked to see if that is whats actually happening
# [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30302320b7e4 - Wes Johnston - Bug 870063 - Make context menus use async prompt service. r=mfinkle
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# [19:06] <tn> avih, ie the refresh driver timer is starving us from handling os events
# [19:06] <avih> tn: i see. could os events which are starved include IO? disk io for instance?
# [19:06] <tn> avih, one of the reasons i'm not a fan of making the refresh driver rate be something nowhere near anything used in practice
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# [19:07] <tn> avih, not sure about io. things like mouse events and key events, and paint events
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# [19:07] <avih> tn: yes, it's untipical, but i think it's quite similar to normal refresh rates and high content load (e.g. animation which the browser can't keep up with)
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# [19:08] <avih> if indeed os events are starved from high content load... then it's really bad imo
# [19:08] <tn> avih, except there are absolutes at play here. a timer at 10000/s is quite different from one at 60/s
# [19:09] <avih> tn: the practical effect of 10khz is that the refresh driver uses 0ms timeouts. in practice it never gets near 10k...
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# [19:10] <avih> tn: and exactly the same (0ms refresh driver timeout) will happen if the content iteration took anything close to 16ms.
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# [19:10] <tn> avih, you are assuming that you know all of the side effects and interdependencies, which is not the case. you don't know how everything will interact
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# [19:10] <avih> tn: absolutely true. which is why i'm discussing this with others which know more.
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# [19:11] <avih> tn: i think i should be able to reproduce this also with 60hz refresh rate. let me try.
# [19:11] <nemo> grrr. view source has become soooooo annoying in Firefox lately
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# [19:12] <nemo> takes an insane amount of time to load a page :(
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# [19:12] <bz> nemo: hm
# [19:12] <bz> nemo: nothing has changed lately, since line numbers got added....
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# [19:14] <avih> tn: really, the only place where layout.frame_rate is used within firefox is when the refresh driver decides what timeout to use for its next iteration. so the only effect is that it always uses 0ms, which is very easily reproducible with normal refresh rates.
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# [19:19] <nemo> bz: oh. I filed a bug on it
# [19:19] <nemo> but it got no love
# [19:20] <nemo> bz: anyway. I literally walked away from computer for a coffee while waiting for this page to render
# [19:20] <nemo> I probably should have just fetched page and opened in gvim
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# [19:20] <bz> nemo: bug#?
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# [19:23] <nemo> bz: boss came by. looking it up now :-p
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# [19:23] <nemo> super-emergency bugfix in this page that someone else made and did SQL query construction :(
# [19:24] <nemo> irritating thing is where you see they striped ' in one place, but didn't occur to them it was a general problem
# [19:24] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a super-emergency bugfix is in order
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# [19:24] <nemo> Ms2ger: yay arbitrary SQL injection
# [19:24] <nemo> little johnny tables strikes again
# [19:24] <Ms2ger> Poor Bobby Tables
# [19:24] <nemo> bobby. right
# [19:24] <Ms2ger> :)
# [19:25] <nemo> bz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=870794
# [19:25] <nemo> bz: is way more than 4-5 seconds tho in some cases
# [19:25] <nemo> oh. right. said 4-45
# [19:25] <nemo> I've had it last longer than even 45 seconds tho
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# [19:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/033bd3fa9527 - Mathieu Bultel - Bug 763483 - navigate() does not wait for DOM readystate == complete, r=mdas
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# [19:30] <RyanVM> and waits]
# [19:30] <@dolske> a watched push never boils.
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# [19:33] <ialagenchev> bz: I looked into why I am getting different channels
# [19:34] <ialagenchev> bz: The channel returned by nsCOMPtr<nsIHttpChannel> httpChannel(do_QueryInterface(request, &rv)); in nsURILoader before OnStartRequest is different than the channel that called the OnStartRequest
# [19:35] <jduell> ialagenchev: that just means we hit an HTTP redirect
# [19:35] <ialagenchev> bz: The channel calling the OnStartRequest is the one that parsed the headers, but that's not the channel that is passed as parameter to the nsDocument
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# [19:35] <ialagenchev> jduell: I don't have http redirect in my test
# [19:35] <jduell> ialagenchev: ah, then maybe not :P
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# [19:35] <ialagenchev> jduell: The test is https though
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# [19:35] <ialagenchev> jduell: Can that affect things?
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# [19:36] <jduell> ialagenchev: if you didn't redirect, then https shouldn't matter.
# [19:36] <jduell> Did you do any proxy or auth prompt login stuff? Those use redirects too
# [19:36] <ialagenchev> jduell: Yeah that's what I thought, but I figured I should confirm
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# [19:36] <ialagenchev> jduell: Nope, simple mochitest with bad HSTS headers
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# [19:36] <jduell> HSTS does a redirect for http -> https. That counts as a redirect
# [19:37] <bz> ialagenchev: how are you determining "different"?
# [19:37] <ialagenchev> bz: ponters
# [19:37] <ialagenchev> *pointers*
# [19:37] <bz> Pointers to the same type?
# [19:37] <ialagenchev> bz: different memory locations
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# [19:37] <bz> yes, I understand that
# [19:37] <bz> which two pointers are you comparing?
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# [19:38] <bz> And what are the values?
# [19:38] <jduell> right, but if you have QI'd to different IDLs you will have different pointers
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# [19:38] <bz> exactly
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# [19:38] <bz> pointers to the same object via different interfaces point to slightly different memory locations
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# [19:38] <bz> hence my questions above.
# [19:39] <ialagenchev> bz: I am comparing the parameter to StartDocumentLoad — aChannel 0x125bef858 and this in nsHttpChannel that parsed - 125bef800
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# [19:40] <ialagenchev> jduell: can you explain to the uninitiated what this means : but if you have QI'd to different IDLs you will have different pointers :-)
# [19:40] <jduell> ialagenchev: it's C++ multiple inheritance.
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# [19:41] <ialagenchev> jduell: what does QI mean and IDL?
# [19:41] <jduell> ialagenchev: and... I'm blanking on why exactly, but when you cast to different types for the same object you get different pointers
# [19:41] <bz> That's an offset of 88 bytes
# [19:41] <ialagenchev> jduell: I am not familiar with the abbrevs
# [19:41] <bz> it's the same object, presumably
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# [19:41] <jduell> QI = QueryInterface.
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# [19:41] <ialagenchev> oh and idl is interface description language?
# [19:41] <bz> ialagenchev: consider this C++: class A { int foo; }; class B { int bar; }; class C : public A, public B {};
# [19:41] <jduell> by IDL I mean a nsIFOO.idl. I.e. a different XPCOM type, which get defined in IDL files. Sorry, sloppy usage
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# [19:42] <ialagenchev> jduell: now i understand what you meant :-)
# [19:42] <bz> ialagenchev: Now say you have this code: C c; A* a = &c; B* b = &c;
# [19:42] <bz> ialagenchev: The actual values in "a" and "b" will differ by 4, right?
# [19:42] <ialagenchev> bz: ah
# [19:43] <ialagenchev> bz: yes definitely
# [19:43] <bz> ialagenchev: so when comparing pointers in a debugger you really want to make sure to compare pointers to the same type
# [19:43] <philor> "application crashed [@ -]"
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# [19:43] <Mook_as> jduell: ping - would you happen to have any opinions on bug 877961 (about PrivateBrowsingChannel::setPrivate)? (no need to look now, just trying to make sure you're aware of it)
# [19:43] <jduell> ialagenchev: so if you're still unsure, if you QI the different pointers back to the same type, you should get the same address.
# [19:43] <bz> ialagenchev: (and even more so with printf; with a debugger you can at least get it to give you the "real" pointer in some cases)
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# [19:44] <bz> jduell: strictly speaking that's only true for QI to nsISupports
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# [19:44] <Mook_as> and people should be using SameCOMIdentity() a lot more? :D
# [19:45] <jduell> damn, I thought it possibly wasn't true for nsISupports, but true for other types. Ah, still fuzzy about XPCom after all these years...
# [19:45] <RyanVM> philor: I'd push the backout, but inbound won't let me
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# [19:45] <philor> naughty inbound doesn't want to give up its silly crashes
# [19:45] <ialagenchev> bz, jduell ok yeah i just double checked obviously the parameter was an interface vs the concrete type, so this all makes sense
# [19:45] <bz> jduell: but if people aren't doing tearoffs and whatnot, it's all fine
# [19:46] <jduell> bz: I thought tearoffs were only gotten via GetInterface, and QI guarantees that you can QI back to original object
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# [19:47] <ialagenchev> bz, jduell: I was comparing them by using gdb print. So I guess the best way is to QI to same object and then compare pointers?
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# [19:47] <bz> jduell: oh, you can QI back from a tearoff
# [19:47] <jduell> ialagenchev: only if you need to have an exact match. If you're just eyeballing them in gdb, you can realize they are within a small # of bytes, so are the same object
# [19:47] <bz> ialagenchev: the best way is to set print object on in gdb
# [19:47] <bz> ialagenchev: and then it'll show the most-derived-class pointers all the time
# [19:48] <ialagenchev> jduell, bz: OK Thanks for your help.
# [19:48] <jduell> oh, yes "set print object".
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# [19:48] <bz> "set print object on"
# [19:48] <ialagenchev> bz: yeah I need to have this set as default. I forget putting it in
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# [19:49] <ialagenchev> jduell, bz, Great help from you. It's greatly appreciated
# [19:49] <jduell> np
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# [19:54] <jduell> Mook_as: thanks for nudge. commented in bug
# [19:54] <Mook_as> thanks!
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# [19:56] <Mook_as> (fwiw, NS_QueryNotificationCallbacks will look at the load group's notification callbacks if the channel's notification callbacks don't support the desired interface; will comment once I get home and have the right bugzilla account)
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# [19:59] <@ehsan> what's 0xa5a5a5a5?
# [20:00] <bz> firebot, 0xa5a5a5a5
# [20:00] <firebot> bz: 0xA5A5A5A5 = 2779096485, 024551322645, 0b10100101101001011010010110100101
# [20:00] <bz> firebot, 0xa5a5a5a5?
# [20:00] <firebot> bz: 0xA5A5A5A5 = 2779096485, 024551322645, 0b10100101101001011010010110100101
# [20:00] <@ehsan> thanks firebot, real helpful!
# [20:00] <bz> firebot, what is 0xa5a5a5a5?
# [20:00] <firebot> bz: 0xa5a5a5a5 is jemalloc allocated uninitialized junk memory (cf. 0x5a5a5a5a)
# [20:00] <bz> That's more like it
# [20:00] <@ehsan> great!
# [20:00] <@ehsan> thanks
# [20:01] <@ehsan> vlad: apparently firebot knows this stuff ^
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# [20:01] <@ehsan> BenWa: no
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# [20:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d084b7d0f2e7 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 877824 - log proper TEST-START and TEST-END points for reftests; r=dbaron
# [20:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad781d8dcdc6 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 878411 - define xFetch and xUnfetch methods in TelemetryVFS file objects; r=mak
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# [20:35] <nemo> bz: btw. whatever my comments on the page I noticed it on, that seems to happen for any very large HTML file
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# [20:37] <jesup> glandium/cdiehl/dveditz/bsmedberg/etc: http://blog.chromium.org/2013/05/testing-chromium-syzyasan-lightweight.html -- ASAN for windows
# [20:37] <jesup> and ehugg points out to me Bug 874717\
# [20:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c21ef4ecb7f4 - Kevin Stangl - Bug 879564 - Inline Math.atan2(). r=sstangl
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# [20:40] <nemo> bz: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase164.html view source in nightly. the machine I did it on is still frozen. took a couple of minutes of fan spinning hotly to render
# [20:40] <nemo> hm. I should add that as a test link
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# [20:46] <Six> Just a quick question about python: Does this modification looks good? http://mibpaste.com/MHzuqZ
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# [20:51] <Six> Could someone confirm that please? :)
# [20:53] <philor> whoever broke inbound, unbreak it please
# [20:53] <gw280> on it
# [20:53] <@ehsan> gw280: https://bitbucket.org/sfink/qbackout
# [20:53] <philor> CLOSED TREE in the commit message
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# [20:55] <philor> I'm just glad we have warnings-as-errors, so that a tiny little mistake can be blown up into a huge multi-person operation closing the tree during the heat of the day
# [20:55] <gw280> I know, right
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# [20:55] <gw280> why is warning-as-error not the default for a build?
# [20:56] <@ehsan> gw280: ac_add_options --enable-warnings-as-errors
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# [20:56] <sshagarwal> hi
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# [20:57] <sshagarwal> can someone please tell me what is the switch to purge cache while starting TB?
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# [20:57] <jcranmer> gw280: because people complained that it breaks $NOT_WHAT_TINDERBOX_USES and the solution was to make tinderbox use something that most devs don't use instead
# [20:57] <gw280> jcranmer: terrible solution
# [20:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/79088e422daf - Richard Newman - Bug 868445 - Part 1: allow recording of JSON objects. r=nalexander
# [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/76629dcc6299 - Richard Newman - Bug 878670 - Version profile information cache file. r=nalexander
# [20:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5ccd0592e074 - Richard Newman - Bug 878303 - Part 2: use COUNTED_DISCRETE type for searches. r=nalexander
# [20:58] <@ehsan> sshagarwal: -purgecaches
# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a31f790f0681 - Richard Newman - Bug 878303 - Part 1: implement TYPE_COUNTED_STRING_DISCRETE. r=nalexander
# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1658dc513572 - Richard Newman - Merge m-c to s-c.
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# [20:58] <jcranmer> gw280: if you ask me, it should be the default and let the whiny developers disable it if they choose
# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/530fbc32771b - Richard Newman - Bug 868445 - Part 2: sessions provider for FHR on Android. r=nalexander
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# [20:58] <jcranmer> or if you really want to be clever
# [20:58] <philor> and we're closed again, for incomprehensible b2g bustage
# [20:58] <sshagarwal> ehsan: thanks :)
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# [20:58] <jcranmer> enable it by default if it's a build that tinderbox uses
# [20:58] <gw280> jcranmer: I agree
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# [20:59] <gw280> jcranmer: there's no reason for warning-as-error not to be the default it you can't land if it doesn't build without it disabled
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# [21:00] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I'd say we should turn werror of on tbpl, but checking toolchain version might somewhat useful now that all but bb2g has a reasonably modern toolchain
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# [21:01] <whimboo> jimm: can oyu tell me who is mainly working on metro? i wonder how to close metro with mozmill and which events I have to listen for
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# [21:01] <jimm> whimboo: everybody working on the project hangs out in #windev, there are about ten people on the team currently.
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# [21:02] <sfink> maybe mach could dump out at the end "your build had 4464 warnings, most of which you can ignore, but these 7 warnings will break the build when you try to land:..."
# [21:02] <sfink> it'd just need to know which directories have warnings-as-errors enabled. or something.
# [21:02] <jimm> whimboo: for closing, you should be able to use the standard shutdown call.
# [21:02] <jcranmer> sfink: well, it'd also need to know which warnings would be present on tinderbox
# [21:02] <jimm> can't remember the interface off hand.
# [21:02] <jimm> test harness uses it
# [21:03] <whimboo> jimm: i will join then. thanks
# [21:03] <@ehsan> cdiehl: how do I tell asan to ignore memory problems?
# [21:03] <jcranmer> and which warnings are set up to be -Wno-error
# [21:03] <@ehsan> cdiehl: looks like the js engine is hitting a memory bug
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# [21:03] <wchen> do failed assertions cause oranges on tbpl?
# [21:03] <sfink> jcranmer: please do not use this 'reality' thing on me. I don't think I should be subjected to it unless I want to.
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# [21:05] <philor> CLOSE, damn you
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# [21:11] <cdiehl> ehsan: hm, AFAIK you can not ignore detected errors but there is ASAN_OPTIONS= and I think a compile time flag -asan-ignore? - ask decoder he is working on JS engine and came across that.
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# [21:11] <@ehsan> decoder: ping
# [21:11] <@ehsan> cdiehl: I cannot find out what I need to pass into ASAN_OPTIONS
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# [21:12] <cdiehl> ehsan: do you want to ignore a certain detected error like a UAF?
# [21:12] <@ehsan> cdiehl: well I'm seeing a startup crash, and I just wanna get past that
# [21:12] <@ted> jesup: crazy, they reimplemented asan on top of szyzgy
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# [21:12] <@ehsan> ted: not that crazy!
# [21:13] <cdiehl> ehsan: I saw some recent discussion about that, ask decoder. I think he recommended to update llvm or something.
# [21:13] <@ted> i guess that's probably less crazy than trying to build chrome on windows with clang
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# [21:13] <@ehsan> ted: they're doing that too, it seems ;)
# [21:13] <cdiehl> ehsan: IIRC Jesse had the same problem yesterday on MacOS
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# [21:13] <@ehsan> Jesse: ping
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# [21:13] <@ehsan> cdiehl: /me hates these kinds of bugs :(
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# [21:14] <decoder> ehsan: can you pastebin the startup crash trace?
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# [21:27] <philor> rnewman: uh oh, s-c doesn't seem to build android-noion
# [21:27] <kaie> why did tbpl only schedule win+mac+android for my change, but no linux builds? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=34ad18786196
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# [21:27] <philor> kaie: because if your builds are still pending when another push above you schedules builds, then they only happen on the push above you
# [21:28] <kaie> ok, thanks for explaining
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# [21:31] <bz> oh, inbound is closed
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# [21:31] <bz> surprise
# [21:32] <khuey> nobody expects inbound to be closed
# [21:32] <philor> froydnj: bustage
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# [21:32] <khuey> did you hear that? it's froydnj's fault :-P
# [21:32] <jwalden> and no one expects the inquisition that reveals their push was at fault
# [21:33] * froydnj looks
# [21:33] <philor> and this would be why I don't believe in adding a thousand checkboxes to treestatus
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# [21:33] <philor> because we pile bustage above as yet unseen bustage and then pile bustage on the bustage on the bustage
# [21:33] <froydnj> well that's interesting
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# [21:37] <Six> just a noobie question: how can a patch can close inbound? as it should have passed tbpl
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# [21:37] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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# [21:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/197943dd42b7 - Nathan Froyd - Backout ad781d8dcdc6 (bug 878411) because of massive test bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [21:38] <Ms2ger> Six, you must be new here
# [21:38] <Yoric> yzen: vague pong
# [21:38] <Ms2ger> Six, people are way too lazy to actually use try
# [21:38] <Six> Ms2ger: yep kinda ;)
# [21:38] <jwalden> Six: not every patch pushed to inbound is pushed, or should be pushed, to try
# [21:38] <Yoric> yzen: But tomorrow would be better :)
# [21:38] <yzen> Yoric: sure that can wait
# [21:39] <Six> jwalden: you're syaing some patches can't be pushed to try?
# [21:39] <jwalden> Six: more complex patches probably want to be pushed, but lots of stuff, building twice like that would just waste resources
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# [21:39] <jwalden> Six: not can't, but double-building everything just to be safe isn't worth it
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# [21:40] <jwalden> Six: most stuff is not likely to break stuff when it lands
# [21:40] <Six> jwalden: ok gotcha, but sometimes ots breaks hten
# [21:40] <Ms2ger> jwalden, maybe not
# [21:40] <Ms2ger> jwalden, but people have shown to be completely unreliable in judging that
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# [21:40] <jwalden> "completely unreliable" overstates
# [21:40] <jwalden> it's indeed a judgment call
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# [21:41] <philor> and because we told ourselves that it would be a great idea to decide to only build, say, opt and not debug, and build on all desktop platforms but only run tests on one, and not build or test on fennec or b2g, even when we push to try we still break things
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# [21:41] <Ms2ger> jwalden, why is inbound closed on every working day, then?
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# [21:41] <Six> Ms2ger,jswalden: i don't want to start a fight ;)
# [21:42] <jwalden> Ms2ger: laziness doesn't imply bad judgment
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# [21:42] <jwalden> Six: this isn't an argument, it's a contradiction ;-)
# [21:42] <Ms2ger> jwalden, except in that being lazy is a bad judgement
# [21:42] <jwalden> that's true
# [21:42] <Ms2ger> Wait
# [21:43] <Ms2ger> This was supposed to be a contradiction
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# [21:43] <Ms2ger> Why do you agree with me?!
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# [21:43] <philor> anybody pushed anywhere else today, that I also need to close?
# [21:43] <@ehsan> jrmuizel: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2488982
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# [21:44] <Ms2ger> philor, er, I pushed to the hghooks repo... ;)
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# [21:44] <RyanVM> philor: I tried my darndest to close b2g18* and esr17
# [21:44] <RealRaven> does anybody know whether I can use the Javascript debugger in private browsing mode?
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# [21:45] <Six> Ms2ger: so why is there no option to set a priority on builds? this way we could choose to push to try a full builds/tests with a low priority that would run when load is lower?
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# [21:46] <RyanVM> Try jobs already run with lower priority
# [21:46] <rnewman> philor: *sigh*
# [21:46] <RyanVM> doesn't change the fact that once they are running, that slave is unable to run other jobs
# [21:46] <rnewman> that must be a busted merge, 'cos I only touched Java files
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# [21:46] <rnewman> and apparently hg diff is evil
# [21:47] <Six> lower priority compared to what?
# [21:47] <RyanVM> rnewman: philor: when in doubt, clobber!
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# [21:47] <bz> Six: to all other trees
# [21:47] <rnewman> RyanVM: philor: fedora build dying too, and I definitely didn't touch that
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# [21:47] <philor> rnewman: note that the burnt Fennec build, you've never built before
# [21:47] <RyanVM> that's just gcc being dumb
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# [21:48] <rnewman> philor: yeah, I see that
# [21:48] <Six> bz: others trees are using same servers than try?
# [21:48] <ahal> Six: that is exactly what we do, and that is exactly why people don't push to try all the time
# [21:48] <ahal> results can take a full day to get back sometimes
# [21:48] <bz> Six: the same build and test infrastructure, of course
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# [21:48] <bz> Six: there's a pool that slaves get grabbed from
# [21:49] <bz> Six: and different trees have different priorities
# [21:49] <RyanVM> Six: Try accounts for roughly 50% of the jobs run on our infra
# [21:49] <bz> Six: with try at rock bottom
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# [21:50] <Six> bz,RyanVM,ahal: ok now i understand it better :)
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# [21:50] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: so, consider that if you have 100 pushes which each have probability 0.99 of being good you only have 0.36 probability of the whole thing being good
# [21:50] * philor kills some debug builds before they can trigger tests
# [21:50] <rnewman> philor: I'm skeptical that this is me; https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1658dc513572
# [21:51] <rnewman> small and java-only
# [21:51] <rnewman> that said, I can't explain the cause
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# [21:51] <RyanVM> hah
# [21:51] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: and I don't think anyone is going to argue peoples judgement is *that* good
# [21:51] <philor> kill it before it grow
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# [21:51] * bz is pretty sure he has more than one broken push in 100. :(
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# [21:52] <RyanVM> i remember getting to yell at two zbarsky's in two days awhile back
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# [21:52] <tbsaunde> bz: yeah, I'm sure I'm not that good probably even if I used try
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# [21:53] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, next up: both in one day?
# [21:53] <RyanVM> there should be badges for family backouts
# [21:53] <avih> tn: so, i researched a bit. result: 1. it happens with normal refresh rates as well if the content iterations take for instance 20ms. 2. after 3 seconds of starve, it releases. 3. in windows, once it releases, i couldn't make it starve again, but on linux reloading the page after it got un-starved, and it's starved again. do you recall any threshold there around 2.5-3 seconds?
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# [21:54] <Six> RyanVM: add a new category in OpenBagdes ;)
# [21:54] <RyanVM> we've got the hylands, zbarskys, the turners (ok, I know they aren't related, but let's pretend they are)
# [21:54] <khuey> RyanVM: I'm looking forward to bsmedberg's children getting old enough to hack on mozilla
# [21:54] <RyanVM> hah
# [21:54] <RyanVM> ULTRA KILLL
# [21:54] <RyanVM> MMMMMMMONSTER KILL
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# [21:54] <Ms2ger> "Daddy, RyanVM backed me out again!"
# [21:54] <bkero> HOLY SHIT
# [21:54] <tn> avih, no, i don't know of anything in the 3 second range
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, and that sounds like UT
# [21:54] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: total coincidence
# [21:55] * Ms2ger played some of that long ago
# [21:55] <Ms2ger> Like, elementary school, probably
# [21:55] <avih> tn: ok. do you still think we should file a bug with this behavior?
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# [21:55] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: *sigh* now you might as well get me my cane too
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# [21:56] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, remember 9/11? I was in elementary school then too ;)
# [21:56] <tn> avih, yes
# [21:56] <avih> tn: so what would the expected behavior be?
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# [21:57] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: yeah, i get somewhat depressed hearing kids these days talking about learning about it in history class
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# [21:57] <tn> avih, we should paint to the screen at some minimum threshold when things get bad.
# [21:58] <tn> avih, but it also depends on what exactly is starving us here
# [21:58] <avih> tn: and this min threshold should be considerably lower than 3s?
# [21:58] <tn> avih, i would think so.
# [21:59] <avih> tn: plain animation in an html page, where each iterations spins a while loop until 20ms have passed
# [21:59] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, well, where else do you learn about stuff that happened before you were born? ;)
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# [21:59] <khuey> I'm pretty convinced that the world didn't actually exist before I was born
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# [22:00] <RyanVM> how do you know? HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!?!
# [22:00] <avih> tn: would this ^ be a valid case for the bug?
# [22:00] <Ms2ger> Are we all just figments of khuey's imagination?
# [22:00] <@bsmedberg> How do I change the test timeout when running a browser-chrome test?
# [22:00] <tn> avih, if we don't paint in that situation for 3s that is definitely a bug we want to fix
# [22:00] <@bsmedberg> browser_pluginnotification.js is taking too long locally
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# [22:01] <Ms2ger> But then I do wonder what kind of weird imagination khuey has to imagine me
# [22:01] <avih> tn: we definitely don't paint for about 3s, at least once on windows, and after each reload on linux. thanks, i'll file it
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# [22:02] <tn> avih, thanks
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# [22:03] <@dveditz> jesup: thanks. we were excited to see syzyasan but haven't gotten it running yet
# [22:03] <froydnj> bsmedberg: requestLongerTimeout(integerFactor)
# [22:03] <glosoli> Hmm I am a bit curious. How much performance it would have costed for example for Firefox if it would have used vector graphics for Australis designs ?
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# [22:04] <@bsmedberg> glosoli: it's a perhaps meaningless question, because the designers want to hand-tweak the pixels
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# [22:05] <@bsmedberg> so I don't think they bothered measuring it deeply
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# [22:07] <jwalden> SVG is complex enough that it's fairly hard to answer that question, I'd bet
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# [22:07] <jwalden> even if the images themselves use few vector primitives
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# [22:08] <glosoli> hm
# [22:08] <Gijs> I think some people did measure some things, but I wouldn't be able to tell you what exactly. I *can* say that we will soon be using (or at least trying to use) some SVG icons on Linux.
# [22:08] <glosoli> Gijs: by we you mean Mozilla ?
# [22:08] <Gijs> Yes.
# [22:08] <Gijs> (well, Firefox, really)
# [22:09] <glosoli> Hmm curious why focused on Linux ?
# [22:09] <Gijs> I'm not aware of what the other projects are doing in this regard.
# [22:09] <Gijs> I don't know. :)
# [22:09] <Ms2ger> SeaMonkey can't use SVG icons
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# [22:09] <glosoli> aa ok :)
# [22:09] <Ms2ger> SVG didn't exist when those were created
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# [22:09] <@dolske> we're considering SVG on linux because it has a zillion OS themes, and SVG is one way to allow colorizing icons to match the theme better.
# [22:10] * Ms2ger wanders off to his bridge
# [22:10] <mcsmurf> actually I think some of the SeaMonkey icons do exist as svg files, but SeaMonkey does not use svg icons
# [22:10] <JonathanS> hi dpi aware too?
# [22:10] <glosoli> dolske: And Macs having releases with bigger resolutions and DPIs each time doesn't count ?
# [22:10] <RyanVM> didn't some parts get switched away from svg due to performance issues?
# [22:10] <Ms2ger> mcsmurf, can't you let me troll in peace? :)
# [22:10] <mcsmurf> nope :D
# [22:10] <mcsmurf> go troll somewhere else
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# [22:10] <mcsmurf> :]
# [22:10] <Ms2ger> Okay :(
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# [22:11] <@dolske> OS X systems have exactly 2 dpi sen in use, no need for SVG there a.
# [22:11] <@dolske> * there at all (
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# [22:11] <jfkthame> would be nice on windows though
# [22:11] <@dolske> yes, Windows is a fucking disaster. :)
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# [22:14] <abr> Is anyone else having problems pushing to try, or is it just me?
# [22:14] <mcsmurf> abr: does the push abort?
# [22:14] <abr> No, it hangs, after "XXX changesets found"
# [22:15] <abr> I had one go through about 10 minutes ago (which I canceled), but can't seem to get it to work now...
# [22:15] <abr> I know infra has been a bit shaky recently
# [22:15] <jfkthame> you may just need to wait longer - it can take a -really- long time sometimes
# [22:15] <abr> Like multiple minutes?
# [22:15] <jfkthame> yes
# [22:16] <mcsmurf> but 10 minutes is already quite long..
# [22:16] <abr> Okay, I'll let it keep trying. Thanks.
# [22:16] <abr> To be clear, it's only been hanging about 5 minutes so far.
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# [22:31] <BenWa> RyanVM: Can I checked in a NPOTB patch on a closed tree? Removing completely dead test code from pre libxul 2010 era
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# [22:31] <RyanVM> to inbound? sure if you include a DONTBUILD too :)
# [22:31] <BenWa> ok
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# [22:32] <@ehsan> joe: 5711af11
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# [22:36] <RyanVM> BenWa: were you going to do that soon?
# [22:36] <BenWa> done
# [22:36] <RyanVM> ok, thanks
# [22:36] <BenWa> just trippled checked the files were dead
# [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ee5b6ada4a03 - Benoit Girard - Bug 879916 - Remove gfxTestCocoaHelper. r=joe DONTBUILD as NOPTB for obsolete files on a CLOSED TREE
# [22:37] <sfink> uh oh, misspelled NPOTB, better backout and re-land :)
# [22:37] <mcsmurf> heh
# [22:37] <BenWa> sfink: Does anything use that?
# [22:38] <sfink> BenWa: no
# [22:38] <mcsmurf> :D
# [22:38] <BenWa> ok, next time maybe :)
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# [22:40] <glosoli> Where is my Australis, where ;d can't wait
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# [22:41] <RyanVM> rstrong: ping
# [22:41] <rstrong> RyanVM: pong
# [22:42] <RyanVM> i just resolved bug 811557, but I see it was [leave open]
# [22:42] <RyanVM> is that old?
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# [22:43] <rstrong> RyanVM: I think it is though I believe there was another case where that was asked for by sec in a similar bug
# [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7df36088f645 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 877287. r=h4writer
# [22:44] <rstrong> RyanVM: I'll remove it
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# [22:44] <RyanVM> lulz, I just reopened
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# [22:45] <rstrong> RyanVM: I think it came over from the bug it was cloned from
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# [22:46] <RyanVM> really, these new security groups are *great*
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# [22:47] <abr> How do I figure out the patchset number for curent beta?
# [22:47] <rstrong> I know aren't they? ;)
# [22:47] <cpeterson> abr: about:buildconfig?
# [22:47] <abr> Ah, cool. Thanks.
# [22:47] <abr> Excatly what I wanted.
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# [22:48] <cpeterson> :)
# [22:49] <RyanVM> rstrong: especially when I can't access a random bug because
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# [22:51] <jono_> hey i have a question about using XPCOM calls from C++ that have strings as out-parameters
# [22:51] <jono_> would this be a place to ask or is there a more specific channel?
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# [22:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01458e7eb707 - Glenn Randers-Pehrson - Bug 873001 - Update libpng to version 1.5.16. r=joe
# [22:52] <auswerk> jono_: this is a good place for that
# [22:52] <jono_> auswerk: thanks
# [22:52] <jono_> so, I'm trying to get the host string from an nsIURI
# [22:52] <jono_> I see here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIURI
# [22:52] <jono_> that it's an AUTF8 string
# [22:52] <jono_> so do I just do like...
# [22:53] <jono_> AUTF8String host;
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# [22:53] <jono_> retval = myURI->GetHost(&host);
# [22:53] <jono_> ?
# [22:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be065b3be5fe - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 870034. r=bhackett
# [22:53] <NeilAway> jono_: the C++ name for AUTF8String is nsCString
# [22:54] <jono_> ohhhh
# [22:54] <NeilAway> jono_: well, the concrete type you need is nsCString, the C++ name is actually nsACString but that only makes a difference when you're passing a substring to a method
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# [22:54] <jono_> dude there are SO MANY kinds of strings in mozilla code!
# [22:54] <NeilAway> jono_: also nsCString gets passed by reference, so no need for the &
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# [22:55] <NeilAway> jono_: indeed
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# [22:55] <jono_> no need for the &, ok, that might have been my problem
# [22:55] <auswerk> Mook_as: at activestate, eh? :)
# [22:55] <jono_> I was getting some error message about: no known conversion for argument 1 from nsAutoCString* to nsACString_internal&
# [22:55] <Mook_as> jono_: if you have a tree, it's easier to read the generated nsIURI.h to see what's going on :)
# [22:55] <Mook_as> auswerk: yep!
# [22:55] <jono_> nsIURI.h gets generated from the IDL, does it?
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# [22:56] <NeilAway> jono_: nsAutoCString will work, especially if you need to modify the string
# [22:56] <jono_> do you know where in the tree that would be?
# [22:56] <mak> ehsan: I don't understand your comment in bug 878411, the patch has been backed out
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# [22:56] <NeilAway> dist/include
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# [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c0e886ce641 - Jeff Walden - Bug 496923 - Make the test262-importing script import tests from ch11/. r=terrence
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# [22:57] <auswerk> Mook_as: I'll be hanging out in here a lot again… today is day 3 at mozilla
# [22:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6c198d46243d - Jeff Walden - Bug 496923 - Import the ch11/ test262 tests into jstests. r=generating-script-was-reviewed
# [22:57] <@ehsan> mak: yes but not in time
# [22:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e04355ca92a0 - Jeff Walden - Bug 496923 - Import the ch13/ test262 tests into jstests. r=generating-script-was-reviewed
# [22:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/060a106fe89e - Jeff Walden - Bug 496923 - Make the test262-importing script import tests from ch10/, and skip the tests that we don't currently pass (6 for test harness shortcomings, 2 for actual
# [22:57] <firebot> bugs). r=terrence
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# [22:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ebaad3e81c9 - Jeff Walden - Bug 496923 - Import the ch10/ test262 tests into jstests. r=generating-script-was-reviewed
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# [22:57] <mak> ehsan: you mean for a merge? just merge the backout.
# [22:57] <Mook_as> auswerk: congrats! :D
# [22:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a25b2e1161fc - Jeff Walden - Bug 496923 - Make update-test262.sh import tests from ch13/. r=terrence
# [22:57] <@ehsan> mak: no I happened to pull
# [22:58] <auswerk> jono_: Also, if you didn't know about this already, it will make your life a lot easier: http://dxr.mozilla.org/
# [22:58] <@ehsan> and waste an hour to build
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# [22:58] <@ehsan> and waste half an hour to try to figure out this startup crash
# [22:58] <mak> ehsan: I still don't understand your comment
# [22:58] <@ehsan> mak: nm, it's ok
# [22:58] <@ehsan> mak: the summary is that the patch committed caused a startup crash
# [22:59] <mak> yes, if I can say, you should update -r to a revision that got green on tbpl...
# [22:59] <mak> building tip has risks
# [22:59] <mak> (sorry)
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# [22:59] <@ehsan> mak: I built tip becuase of another bustage in the js engine
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# [23:00] <mak> unlucky time :(
# [23:00] <jono_> auswerk: thanks, checking it out
# [23:00] <@ehsan> basically, I've wasted half of today trying to get firefox to start up :(
# [23:00] <@ehsan> and I'm a bit frustrated at this point
# [23:00] <mak> I'm really sorry, I definitely deserve some of the blame
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# [23:01] <@ehsan> it's ok
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# [23:02] <rnewman> RyanVM: philor: m-c looking healthy again, so I'm going to take my innocent self offline for a few hours
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# [23:02] <RyanVM> rnewman: you are absolved, my child
# [23:02] <rnewman> :D
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# [23:04] <@ehsan> yay, finally a browser that starts up!
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# [23:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/17aa0fec31dc - Trevor Saunders - bug 877886 - get rid of a number of static constructors in content/ and dom/ r=smaug
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# [23:17] <spohl> I'm running into a bit of a problem during reflow of a page. One frame requires another frame to be reflown first, but the ordering seems to be reversed and so the layout isn't correct. I can go into more detail, but is this a problem that's familiar to anyone and is there a good way to make this work?
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# [23:23] <jwalden> froydnj: how much RAM does your system have?
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# [23:24] <dholbert> spohl, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874418 is vaguely related, but it's hard to comment without more details
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# [23:24] <dholbert> spohl, do you have a testcase / example?
# [23:24] <dholbert> or more details on what the dependency is?
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# [23:25] <dholbert> spohl, feel free to hop over to #layout, too, especially if this is mainly a reflow-related issue
# [23:25] <spohl> dholbert: thank you, I shall hop over
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# [23:44] <tbsaunde> froydnj: you have a setup to build with gcc 4.4 right?
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# [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18e4c0ecfdba - Steve Fink - Bug 876776 - Do not crash when dumping a NULL object, r=terrence
# [23:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efa6ea58e9be - Steve Fink - Bug 876776 - Import latest version of js/examples/jorendb.js. DONTBUILD
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# [23:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/55fa2277a702 - Steve Fink - Bug 848592 - Mark memory accessed by dynamic rooting analysis as defined, r=njn
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# [23:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ba350ac49e41 - Steve Fink - Bug 879046 - CheckXPCPermissions now requires a non-null cx, r=bholley
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# [23:49] <djvj> is try busted?
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# [23:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/201d347cda5d - Manu Chaudhary - Bug 874069 - Use one geolocation instance object per ContentParent. r=jdm
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