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# Session Start: Fri Jun 07 00:00:00 2013
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# [00:01] <abr> Gah!
# [00:02] <abr> sherriff -- I'm seeing breakage on Android build for a patch I landed, but (1) the errors are completely implausible, and (2) the try push of the same patch worked just fine. I think we have some kind of infra breakage on the build.
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# [00:02] <abr> See https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=347f88a0effa
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# [00:02] <abr> And compare https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=237234896a59
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# [00:03] <abr> The bases are slightly different, but the files it's complaining about are *system* header files, which are guaranteed to be present.
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# [00:03] <abr> philor / ryanvm ^^^ Any clues?
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# [00:11] <philor> abr: typically, builds on try, doesn't when I push, means you needed a clobber because our build system just lays around on the couch watching TV and eating potato chips instead of having a dependency system
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# [00:13] <abr> Ugh. Okay, so how do I trigger a clobber?
# [00:13] <philor> other times, it means we changed android toolchains between the time you pushed to try and when you pushed to inbound, and tbsaunde will tell me you're busted because of that
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# [00:14] <abr> This patch has had a lot of the property of "works on try, burns on m-i" -- although I can't for the life of me figure out why it would need a clobber.
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# [00:15] <philor> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23874186&tree=Mozilla-Inbound from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/347f88a0effa and https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/263154173cc8 if you want to hazard a guess
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# [00:16] <abr> (That is, I tried landing this exact patchset earlier after it passed mochi clean on try, and it burned mochi and crash on m-i)
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# [00:16] <tbsaunde> philor: looking, this doesn't seem to be my evening
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# [00:22] <philor> tbsaunde: since a couple on the push have been going for 50 minutes, and everything that burned has been 10 or 13 minutes to burn, I think it's a needs-clobber rather than more severe bustage
# [00:22] <tbsaunde> abr: philor I'm trying to figure out how that built on try neither the new or old android ndk has a sys/msg.h but both have linux/msg.h
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# [00:23] <tbsaunde> philor: well that's one of the crazier things I've heard today! there's no dependancies involved!
# [00:24] <abr> Okay, so… I just realised that it shouldn't be using that source file at all.
# [00:24] <abr> It's trying to build …/linux/cpr_linux_init.c instead of .../android/linux/cpr_linux_init.c
# [00:25] <philor> whee, backout time and we don't have to understand why it sometimes does and sometimes doesn't work?
# [00:25] <abr> er… .../android/cpr_android_init.c, that is.
# [00:26] <abr> philor: Hold on a sec
# [00:26] <abr> Are we sure that a clobber won't take care of this?
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# [00:27] <jgilbert> philor, ping
# [00:27] <philor> abr: also? crashtest crash
# [00:27] <philor> jgilbert: pong
# [00:27] <abr> philor: Just like before. It passes crashtest on try
# [00:27] <abr> And fails on m-i
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# [00:28] <abr> I know it's a pain, but the only other way that I'm going to be able to debug this is by random flailing followed by sporadic landings.
# [00:28] <tbsaunde> philor: btw I have a patch to the l10n mozconfigs that I think will fix the l10n nightlies should I just push it to m-c dontbuild? I'll more or less be around this evening
# [00:28] <jgilbert> philor, it would be possible to get a test job added that is only run when desired, wouldn't it?
# [00:28] <abr> Or do you want me to reland with a patch that triggers a clobber instead?
# [00:28] <jgilbert> philor, say, like for android 2.2 m-gl
# [00:28] <philor> tbsaunde: yeah, DONTBUILD to m-c is best, saves the risk of not getting merged
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# [00:29] <abr> philor: 4:1 odds on it failing mochi-3 also.
# [00:29] <philor> jgilbert: yeah, releng has the technology to both only run it on try, and to not run it unless you actually ask for it with a magic (and very weird) trychooser incantation, I just don't know how to write that patch so I wrote the never-anywhere one I did know how to write
# [00:29] <abr> Although I can demonstrate that both crash and mochi-3 run fine locally and on try.
# [00:30] <jgilbert> philor, ok, great, I'll try to dig up the requisite wizard
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# [00:31] <philor> abr: clobbered android is already retriggered, I can clobber and retrigger Mac debug too, but it would be really nice to not have to sit with the tree closed for, um, three or four hours while we wait to see
# [00:31] <abr> philor: Take a glance at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=8ec73e6aa7d3
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# [00:31] <abr> You'll see that the crashtest fails are identical to the crashtest fails you see today
# [00:32] <abr> Even though they work on try.
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# [00:32] <abr> So the only plausible variant here is the tree they're landing on
# [00:32] <abr> And if the only substantive difference between try and m-i is full versus incremental build, then it seems that a clobber is the only reasonable course of action.
# [00:32] <philor> gavin: ^
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# [00:34] <jgilbert> aki, ping
# [00:34] <philor> he does the "no clobber should ever be required, any time that you clobber you are just papering over the way that your stuff does not properly use the build system" much better than me :)
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# [00:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9ca690835a5e - Trevor Saunders - bug 880457 - try and fix android l10n builds by using gcc 4.6 for them only since they're still done on i686 r=khuey DONTBUILD
# [00:35] <abr> philor: I mean, if there's some other course of action that reasonably gets this patch landed on m-i before it rots again and minimizes tree closures, I'm all for that. But at this point, it looks like it works everywhere in the world but on m-i, and the only way I can debug that is by trying to land on m-i, and I don't even know what to change that would increase my chances of success.
# [00:36] <tbsaunde> abr: backout so we can reopen then immediately reland changing /CLOBBER
# [00:36] <tbsaunde> would probably make philor happy
# [00:36] <abr> Okay. Let's do that, then.
# [00:37] <abr> philor: you want to back it out, or should I?
# [00:37] <aki> jgilbert: pong
# [00:37] <philor> and if it works file a bug against build config, "going from aaabbb to cccddd required a clobber"
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# [00:37] <@gavin> indeed
# [00:37] <philor> abr: not me, I'm at work, I don't keep keys or a tree here, I only taunt people and open and close the tree from here :)
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# [00:37] <abr> Ha!
# [00:37] <abr> Okay, I'll back out.
# [00:38] <jgilbert> aki, how would I go about adding a test job that's only run a la carte on try?
# [00:39] <aki> jgilbert: what do you mean by adding? you want to push to try and run that test?
# [00:39] <aki> jgilbert: or have you greened it up and want to run it everywhere
# [00:40] <auswerk> jduell: ping
# [00:40] <jgilbert> aki, for example, we have mochitest-gl, which is mostly green, but still random-oranges too often for general use
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# [00:40] <philor> aki: he wants mochitest-gl on tegras added back, only on try, and whatever that not-by-default is called, where it doesn't run with -u all, only with sfink's weird syntax
# [00:40] <jgilbert> and also we don't really need to run it continuously, since the 4.0 test should take care of most of it
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# [00:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b5187458d46 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Backed out changeset 8ec73e6aa7d3 (bug 784519) on a CLOSED TREE
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# [00:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd648fee58ec - Adam Roach [:abr] - Backed out changeset 90968836cce3 (bug 784519) on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:41] <jduell> auswerk: pong
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# [00:41] <aki> jgilbert: philor: ok. that would be a bug for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&component=Release%20Engineering%3A%20Automation%20%28General%29 aiui
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# [00:42] <auswerk> jduell: is jshih still actively working on bug 746073 as far as you know?
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# [00:43] <jduell> auswerk: I don't know
# [00:43] <auswerk> jduell: k, will follow up in the bug itself. thanks!
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# [00:43] <jgilbert> aki, bug 880495, thanks
# [00:44] <abr> Philor: Okay, backed out.
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# [00:45] <jgilbert> aki, where should I file a bug against trychooser?
# [00:46] <jgilbert> actually, nevermind, it looks fixed
# [00:46] <sfink> jgilbert: you don't need a trychooser bug afaict; what you want is all done in the buildbot-configs
# [00:46] <jgilbert> sfink, yeah, it was a different bug
# [00:46] <sfink> ah,ok
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# [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20c1ebbc31cf - Rodrigo Silveira - Bug 875610 - Find in page throws r=mbrubeck
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# [00:51] <aki> jgilbert: philor sfink looks like try_by_default is platform-level, not test-suite-level ?
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# [00:52] <sfink> aki: you can set it at both, though the behavior is kind of weird when you set it on a test suite
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# [00:55] <philor> "-p android -u mochitest[android]" == "run the not-by-default Android test," nothing weird about that :)
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# [00:55] <philor> assuming I've finally managed to remember how it works, that is
# [00:55] <aki> heh
# [00:55] <aki> does trychooser give you that info, or do you just have to remember incantations
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# [00:56] <jgilbert> would would I specify just android 2.2?
# [00:58] <jgilbert> aki, trychooser doesn't seem to have the `[]` bit
# [00:58] <aki> yeah
# [00:58] <aki> this is black magic to me
# [00:58] <jgilbert> is this sfink's stuff?
# [00:58] <sfink> the only [] stuff that the web UI has is under the "Restrict tests to p latforms" part
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# [00:58] <sfink> jgilbert: sorta mostly, yes
# [00:59] <jgilbert> sfink, any idea how to restrict a mochitest-gl run to android 2.2?
# [00:59] <tbsaunde> khuey: btw thanks!
# [00:59] <philor> "test_single_finger.py" is a really very unfortunately named b2g test, really very very really
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# [01:00] <sfink> jgilbert: um, so you want all android but the android 4.0 tests?
# [01:00] <jgilbert> sfink, just android 2.2 opt m-gl
# [01:01] <jgilbert> (bonus points if there's a way to run it for debug builds)
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# [01:01] <sfink> so I don't really know what the android builds are, but I see "Android" and "Android Armv6". Which of those do you want?
# [01:02] <sfink> oh, and "Android no-ionmonkey"
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# [01:03] <philor> neither, he wants the "Android 2.2 opt" build, but it triggers tests on both 2.2 (on tegras) and 4.0 (on pandas), and he wants to not run the panda tests
# [01:03] <sfink> our builder names are... uh, not optimized for substring filtering
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# [01:03] <jgilbert> I suppose I can deal with it running both 4.0 and 2.2, but it's a waste
# [01:04] <jgilbert> and I have a feeling that if I try that, it won't run the disabled m-gl+2.2 test
# [01:04] <sfink> ok, I still don't get the Armv6 vs ? thing, but how about |try: -b o -p android -u mochitest-gl[Android,-4.0]|?
# [01:04] <sfink> maybe
# [01:04] <aki> https://mxr.mozilla.org/build/search?string=try_by_default
# [01:04] <sfink> is -p android actually legal?
# [01:04] <aki> afaict try_by_default is platform only
# [01:04] <sfink> I just copied that from philor's example
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# [01:05] <sfink> oh, so when you guys say "android 2.2", you're excluding android-armv6, android-noion, and android-x86?
# [01:06] <sfink> (so confused)
# [01:06] <jgilbert> sfink, those only ever just build. I don't care that much about builds, just tests
# [01:06] <jgilbert> oh, well armv6 and no-ion do tests
# [01:06] <sfink> yeah, but what builds do those tests use?
# [01:07] <jgilbert> x86 and noion are their own builds
# [01:07] <jgilbert> as is armv6
# [01:07] <sfink> and you don't care about those, right? You don't want to run your test on those builds?
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# [01:07] <jgilbert> not right now, at least
# [01:08] <sfink> ok, so I think you want |try: -b o -p android -u mochitest-gl[Tegra]|
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# [01:09] <aki> i think we just turn it on on try and hide it
# [01:09] <sfink> maybe I should add the Android craziness to the web UI under a "click here if you're a poor sucker who needs Android stuff" button
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# [01:10] <jgilbert> aki, it's not hidden, at least not that &showall=1 shows
# [01:10] <sfink> so [Tegra] gives you the tegras, [Panda] would give you the pandas, [] would give you both (including nondefaults)
# [01:10] <philor> jgilbert: right, absolutely nothing you do will cause tegra mochitest-gl to run, step one is the releng bug to make it possible to run it, step *two* is trychooser syntax that will make it run
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# [01:11] <aki> jgilbert: i mean we'll have to turn it on, and hide it, rather than have it not run
# [01:11] <sfink> it's based off of substring matching on the strings "Android 4.0 Panda" and "Android Tegra 250"
# [01:11] <jgilbert> aki, that's awful
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# [01:11] <jgilbert> aki, that's 20m per build, and one in ten takes an hour
# [01:11] <aki> people can deselect in trychooser afaik
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# [01:12] <philor> can they deselect it from -u all?
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# [01:12] <aki> scheduling, esp try scheduling, is ugly and we're not talking about rewriting all of it, we're talking about turning this thing on in the short term, aiui
# [01:12] <philor> that's the point of try_by_default
# [01:12] <aki> which is only on for platforms
# [01:12] <aki> back to the beginning of the conversation
# [01:13] <philor> sure, this is our chance to show that sfink is right, and it will also work for a test!
# [01:13] <aki> we can make all of android not on by default
# [01:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88a16ae1ecaa - Jared Wein - Bug 879941 - Fix typo in LightweightThemeManager.jsm. r=Unfocused
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# [01:13] <aki> there are no hooks in misc.py to make it work for a test suite
# [01:13] <aki> afaict
# [01:13] * sfink is totally confused by this stuff too
# [01:13] <sfink> ok, lemme go stare at the code
# [01:14] <sfink> devs who stare at goats
# [01:14] <aki> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2493095 is what i've got so far
# [01:14] <aki> i think it'll add mochitest-gl back for android try
# [01:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/adc90bff145f - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 797529 - Make SpecialPowers compatible with B2G compartment sharing, r=khuey
# [01:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36b68f9e4e04 - William Lachance - Bug 797529 - Remove dependence on debugger server, r=jgriffin
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# [01:16] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: tree views don't generate content
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# [01:16] <philor> jgilbert: and... how tenacious are you? is it going to take a week before you decide that tegras just cannot run the suite, or a month, or three months?
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# [01:17] <philor> I think it took me three weekends, but then, once I saw that pandas could run it, I no longer had any real interest in tegras, since they're the source of all pain and misery in the world
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# [01:20] <jgilbert> philor, I was hoping this wouldn't be nearly as hard as it appears to be. Regardless, it's green now, with the exception of the 1/10 buildbot timeouts
# [01:20] <jgilbert> philor, I want to make sure it stays green(ish) by just running it myself as needed. Say...once a week.
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# [01:22] <philor> sounds like a job for "give jgilbert a tegra of his very own to have and to hold and to hug and to squeeze and to name 'you goddamn bastard worthless piece of crap'"
# [01:22] <philor> though my belief that there are stacks of tegras all over moco may not be true
# [01:22] <jgilbert> philor, that's increasingly what this sounds like
# [01:23] <NeilAway> if pedantry is Ms2ger's middle name, then is Ms2ger his first or his last name?
# [01:23] <sfink> I thought 2 was his middle name
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# [01:25] <sfink> so if you somehow manage to get misc.py to generate a prettyName with the magic "try-nondefault" token in it, it seems like you can indeed make tests off by default. But I see no way of doing that with the current code, since it is only injected based on the platform config, not the test.
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# [01:27] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: really? I'm pretty sure I've seen nsIContents that seem to be for tree row things
# [01:28] <khuey> sfink++
# [01:28] <njn> NeilAway: Ms2-pedantry-ger
# [01:28] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: maybe that was just for the template xul tree with native tree view thing
# [01:28] <NeilAway> njn++
# [01:29] <njn> NeilAway: n+j+n
# [01:29] <NeilAway> njn: sorry, I can't ++ you twice that quickly
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# [01:30] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: which is annoying because the atk people don't like my properties="stuff I got from tree view getRowProperties()" approach :(
# [01:30] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: well, the default view uses content, and the tree builder will generate content if you don't ask it not to, but no other custom views do
# [01:30] <tbsaunde> ah
# [01:31] <tbsaunde> I'd rather not have generic a11y xul tree code trawl through the properties looking for specific ones but maybe that's the sanest thing to do
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# [01:39] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: no, the real problem is that I have some generic code that has no idea the tree view is for a list of emails, and some how that code is supposed to decide that it should say that a row is forwareded or replied
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# [01:41] <tbsaunde> NeilAway: at this point I suspect the best option is just to parse through the string in a11y code before we get near to handing it to atk, which is a big layering violation, but its xl so /me shrugs
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# [01:51] <jgilbert> is there a #define for DESKTOP or some such?
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# [01:56] <mwu> er
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# [01:57] <jgilbert> mwu, will XP_UNIX include android?
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# [01:57] <mwu> not 100% sure though since I haven't touched that in a while
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# [01:58] <mwu> pretty much anything modern not windows
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# [02:28] <philor> mwu: not looking too good on birch, we should probably remove every test_browserElement_* from the tree
# [02:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/026a5847ccd0 - Jonathan Griffin - Backout adc90bff145f for bustage (Bug 797529)
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# [02:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a5c70a04bdcc - Jonathan Griffin - Backout 36b68f9e4e04 for bustage (Bug 797529)
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# [02:29] <mwu> and apparently non-linux platforms
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# [02:54] <ialagenchev> anyone know how I can define an idl method with nsTArray as parameter? I tried several different ways non of which seem to work
# [02:55] <Mook_as> ialagenchev: pretty sure you can't.
# [02:55] <Mook_as> I mean, you can have it inside the IDL by using %{C++, but that's not really an idl method :p
# [02:55] <ialagenchev> Mook_as: so how to obtain arrays from methods then?
# [02:55] <tbsaunde> Mook_as: you can with native if noscript notxpcom is ok with you :)
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# [02:55] <ialagenchev> Mook_as: notxpcom didn't work
# [02:56] <ialagenchev> Mook_as: isn't native just for types though? I tried that too
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# [02:56] <tbsaunde> jwalden: does gcc 4.4 sometimes have trouble with ArrayLength()? I'm trying to understand https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=8dd69e019424
# [02:56] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: notxpcom didn't work
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# [02:57] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: patch nad error?
# [02:57] <ialagenchev> pidl.IDLError: error: invalid syntax, /Users/ialagenchev/mozilla-central/netwerk/protocol/http/nsIHttpChannelInternal.idl line 55:35
# [02:57] <ialagenchev> 0:06.27 [notxpcom] void getErrorQueue(nsTArray<nsIConsoleMessage> array);
# [02:59] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: because your not using native to name the type something xpidl can understand
# [02:59] <jwalden> tbsaunde: ArrayLength doesn't work on locally-defined types, at a very brief glance at a brief log; C++11 fixed this, but that fix may not be in 4.4 yet
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# [02:59] <tbsaunde> jwalden: ah, blerg
# [02:59] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: so how do I do this, because I am super confused how I am supposed to do it
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# [03:00] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: go look at similar things in the tree?
# [03:00] <jwalden> tbsaunde: easily fixed by moving the type outside the method
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# [03:00] <jwalden> tbsaunde: similar issues with anonymous structs inside methods
# [03:00] <tbsaunde> jwalden: I now, but it doesn't make me happy
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# [03:00] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: I did. I didn't see any examples that use nsTArray in similar fashion
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# [03:01] <ialagenchev> tbsaunde: I see examples on how to define new types, using nsTArray, but that's not what I am doing. I want to use nsTArray as parameter
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# [03:01] <tbsaunde> jwalden: btw idea when you'll get to the cxx11 patch?
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# [03:02] <jwalden> tbsaunde: which patch is this?
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# [03:03] <tbsaunde> jwalden: the thing that makes jseng embedors use c++11 if mozilla is building with it bug 877937 I believe
# [03:03] <philor> mwu: there's Win8 joining in at last, keeping it from being a Linux-only failure party
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# [03:03] <tbsaunde> ialagenchev: look at nsIPrintSettings.idl it does almost exactly the same thing as you seem to want to
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# [03:04] <jwalden> oh, hm, missed that in review queue
# [03:04] <jwalden> tbsaunde: tomorrow maybe?
# [03:04] <mwu> philor: oh hurray
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# [03:10] <jgilbert> wow, during linking: 7.7GB used, after: 1.7 D:
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# [03:15] <jlebar> It's fine to add two-clause BSD code to the tree, right?
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# [03:16] <derf> jlebar: We've certainly done it in many other places, but you should still probably send a note to licensing@
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# [03:17] <jlebar> derf: okay, thanks for the address
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# [03:23] <@dbaron> jlebar, yeah, we have a long list of two-clause BSD licenses in about:license
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# [03:24] <jlebar> dbaron: it's (potentially) for a tool in gonk-misc, which complicates things
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# [03:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a4e35605fa3 - Jan-Ivar Bruaroey - Bug 879654: Tolerate '?transport=udp' by stripping it r=jesup
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# [04:01] <markh> anyone have any clues why an XBL binding would throw "Permission denied to access property 'utils'" when it tries to do a Components.utils.import(...) ?
# [04:02] <@dolske> which binding?
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# [04:04] <markh> popups.xml - I'm adding the import. Strangely, it works fine when the binding is used "normally" in the chrome code that creates popups, but not when run from a .xul file under mochi
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# [04:14] <@dolske> markh: hmm, dunno. Sounds like a bug.
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# [04:15] <bjacob> hey, do we have a gecko c++ coding style? this has very little: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Coding_Style#C.2FC.2B.2B_practices
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# [04:15] * @dolske lols. I see MozNZ dragged roc to the Hello Kitty cafe. http://imgur.com/iMhQ26A
# [04:17] <@roc> we overwhelmed it
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# [04:17] <@roc> in fact I think it's fair to say we defeated it
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# [04:19] <tbsaunde> bjacob: you must be new here
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# [04:21] <bjacob> tbsaunde: i wish we just adopted MFBT coding style everywhere.... < jwalden
# [04:21] <jwalden> heh
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# [04:23] <@dolske> jwalden: Hellno Cat? http://theorange.co/hellogrumpy-grumpy-cat-and-hello-kitty-mashup/
# [04:23] <tbsaunde> bjacob: I have fair better thing to do than care
# [04:23] <tbsaunde> *far
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# [04:41] <jesup> roc: that cafe just seems.... wrong
# [04:42] * bjacob is done r-'ing all of his intern's patches for the day
# [04:42] <bjacob> aaah
# [04:43] <tbsaunde> did he produce more? just go "r- written by an intern"
# [04:44] <bjacob> tbsaunde: awesome, i'll try that tomorrow
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# [04:44] <bjacob> i'll also have a shot at repurposing a key on my keybord as a dedicated "r-" key
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# [04:45] <tbsaunde> bjacob: no, get a foot pedal
# [04:45] <bjacob> +++
# [04:46] <bjacob> hahaha i love that image
# [04:46] <bjacob> i can just imagine it
# [04:46] <bjacob> it should have a loud 'clonk' too
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# [04:51] <@roc> jesup: it's delightful. We're adding to our "must have lunch here" list for visitors to NZ
# [04:52] <@roc> and taking it off our list of places we would go again under any other circumstances
# [04:52] <jesup> Ouch
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# [04:54] <@roc> not that we're prejudiced against Hello Kitty ... just that the food was expensive and the service was slow
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# [04:54] <ekr> Did you notice "Hello Kitty Air" on your way through tPE?
# [04:54] <@roc> yes
# [04:55] <ekr> I may see if I can book that to narita
# [04:55] <@roc> you know, the photos of Brendan and Andreas at the Hello Kitty Cafe will be priceless
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# [04:55] <ekr> do we have those?
# [04:55] <@roc> it hasn't happened yet
# [04:55] <@roc> it will happen, mark my words
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# [04:59] <@roc> edwin: http://people.mozilla.com/~roc/HelloKittyCafe1.jpg
# [04:59] <mattwoodrow> I hope that's getting framed
# [05:00] <nrc> can we get that on his badge?
# [05:00] <nrc> and phonebook?
# [05:00] <nrc> and on t-shirts for the summit?
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# [05:02] <edwin> Maybe we should just rebrand ourselves around me
# [05:03] <edwin> Bow down to edwin, your fountain of youth, charisma, speed, and standards compliance
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# [05:04] <nrc> sounds good, I was thinking 'Mozilla' was getting a bit long in the tooth. Roll on edwin Firefox
# [05:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/017bc63ae2fa - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 784519 - Part 3: Send Signaling State from SIPCC to PeerConnection r=ekr
# [05:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca78349dea64 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 784519 - Part 4: signalingState mochi tests r=jsmith
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# [05:05] <ekr> Maybe edwinfox
# [05:05] <nrc> edwinOS
# [05:06] <nrc> or boot2edwin
# [05:06] <ekr> If we had just had that idea before Mobile World Congress, we could totally have sold it
# [05:06] <nrc> totally
# [05:06] <avih> vlad: what's the difference between "N calls to the function" and "N separate callbacks"?
# [05:07] <avih> vlad: oh, you meen the callee is the same?
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# [05:09] <avih> vlad: it appears that adding N rAF statements to the same function, each driver tick will call the same callee N times, during one iteration of the refresh driver, which ends up very badly. did you mean anything different than this?
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# [05:13] <avih> I should read the spec. I'm guessing it's possible that rAF the same calle more than once should/could end in one call to the calle on each iteration. though an evil programmer could still use lambdas or other dynamically generated functions to bypass this limitation, if so he wishes.
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# [05:16] <avih> the really bad result of symptom 3 is than an evil programmer could hang firefox in 2 lines of JS.
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# [05:17] <avih> by creating this rAF fork bomb
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# [05:20] <abr> avih: If you can't hang or kill *any* modern browser in a few lines of js, you're not really trying. :)
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# [05:21] <avih> abr: on this case, chrome, for instance, just hangs the content, but the UI is responsive and the tab could be closed. sure, it uses process per tab, but we don't, so we shouldn't allow IMO such an easy way to hang firefox completely.
# [05:22] <abr> avih: There's some interesting reading here: view-source:http://www.crashmybrowser.com/
# [05:22] <avih> especially when we know that case.
# [05:22] <vlad> there are lots of easy ways
# [05:22] <vlad> avih: I just mean that when the refresh driver tick fires
# [05:22] <vlad> we'll call each of the callbacks
# [05:22] <vlad> instead of scheduling a tick for each one
# [05:22] <avih> yes
# [05:22] <avih> vlad: you're talking on symptoms 2/3, yes?
# [05:23] <vlad> i don't remember which were 2/3, but there are lots of ways to hang content in the browser
# [05:23] <vlad> if we can do an easy mitigration, great, otherwise no need to bother
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# [05:24] <avih> symptom one could actually happen much more frequently that we might think. i.e. on any case where few consecutive refresh driver iterations take more than 16ms: the browser will be practically frozen even when the refresh driver ticks happily at a very responsive rate
# [05:25] <avih> yes, i already have an easy fix for the first symptom, but only a suggested approach for the hang cases.
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# [05:38] <avih> abr: man, http://www.crashmybrowser.com/ will not win the short code award ;)
# [05:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db8410d2f66c - Daniel Holbert - Bug 880137 part 1: Create reftest directory for flexbox in w3c-css folder. rs=dbaron
# [05:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98b4083befbb - Daniel Holbert - Bug 880137 part 3: Give w3c-css flexbox reftests the necessary boilerplate headers with author info, reference, and placeholder test-title and "help" nodes (populated
# [05:39] <firebot> in next patch). rs=dbaron
# [05:39] <avih> anyway, i'd call it a day. i hope to post a patch for the first symptom soon. g'night
# [05:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd81ecba7afd - Daniel Holbert - Bug 880137 part 4: Populate test title fields in w3c-css flexbox reftests. rs=dbaron
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# [06:02] <mattwoodrow> Anyone else have problems pushing to try?
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# [06:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbb88e029c01 - L. David Baron - Bug 880137 patch 6: Fix a broken spec link.
# [06:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/679350e2d699 - L. David Baron - Bug 880137 patch 5: point to TR draft rather than dev.w3.org draft.
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# [06:05] <ekr> philor: potential impending bustage http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2493826
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# [06:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d198d08d0c9f - Timothy Nikkel - Bug 880508. Remove defer invalidations code because we don't invalidate during painting anymore. r=matt.woodrow
# [06:13] <philor> oh, sure, pile on
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# [06:14] <philor> treestatus really should have had an "ekr says we're about to burn from not having touched /CLOBBER" checkbox while we were adding more reasons
# [06:16] * philor begins to wonder, though
# [06:17] <ekr> yeah, I unclicked the checkbox while your back was turned
# [06:17] <philor> been going a long time for jseng bustage
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# [06:19] <tn> it looked all good when i landed! only one unstarred
# [06:21] <philor> yeah, it's still all good, maybe we lucked into all clobbers, maybe ekr's objdir is what's busted, dunno
# [06:21] <ekr> philor: OK, I'll take a look.
# [06:22] * philor refreshes and sees it's not all good
# [06:22] <philor> ekr: nope, as always, you were right, we must have just stumbled into a lot of clobbers
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# [06:22] <ekr> sorry to be a bummer
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# [06:23] <philor> beats the old way, closing after 20 pushes have landed on it
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# [06:25] <philor> oh, we didn't stumble into a lot of clobbers, it's *two pushes above* the last touch of /CLOBBER :|
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# [06:27] <philor> and we're open again
# [06:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d444ac557a7 - Phil Ringnalda - Bug 879831 followup, needs-clobber
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# [06:45] <tbsaunde> philor: has any one ever shown a ec2 slave to have bad ram?
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# [06:57] <philor> tbsaunde: not that I know of, no - reftest pink pixel of death is the only thing we're ever really sure of, and we haven't ever had one there
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# [06:58] <Callek> tbsaunde: soooooo did you ever figure out the android l10n issue?
# [06:58] <Callek> (I note I'm still a bit sick, which means harder to switch gears, but I don't want to leave it unknown/un-owned if I can help it)
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# [07:07] <tbsaunde> Callek: I checked a hackish work around, and releng needs to make l10n builds happen on x86_64 and have the tooltool stuff around which I filed a bug for I'm pretty sure or we need to work out some other way for that to work
# [07:07] <tbsaunde> *checked in
# [07:08] <Callek> tbsaunde: well I vaguely recall warning you of this problem around l10n being in a different process and not using tooltool
# [07:08] <Callek> to be fair ;-)
# [07:08] <tbsaunde> Callek: I don't remember but ok :)
# [07:08] * tbsaunde wonders what happens with mac l10n builds
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# [07:09] <Callek> along the lines of "l10n still needs to configure, so stuffing this in the mozconfig alone needs to be carefully done if you expect it to also apply to l10n"
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# [07:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b142eb80e40 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 880137 part 7: Point flexbox-sizing-* to the layout algorithm chunk of the flexbox spec.
# [07:10] <Callek> tbsaunde: can you point me at your hackish workaround though?
# [07:10] <Callek> tbsaunde: I want to be _sure_ that if the work delays we don't break release process due to it
# [07:10] <Callek> :-)
# [07:10] <tbsaunde> Callek: bug 880457
# [07:10] <Callek> thanks
# [07:10] <tbsaunde> np
# [07:11] <tbsaunde> Callek: so what compiler does configure find on mac? presumably not the clang we use for builds because that's in tooltool
# [07:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8ee8c7bd5c1 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 879149 - Don't attempt to use ContentClientIncremental when not using GL layers. r=nrc
# [07:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fae75f6635c0 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 852850 - Follow-up to improve failure output with reftest-no-paint. r=dbaron
# [07:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c14b70442b3 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 877036 - Make SharedMemory's memory reporter threadsafe. r=jlebar
# [07:12] <Callek> I've been removed from l10n process for a bit so I'd have to double check my assertions before I even bother working on it
# [07:12] <Callek> I *think* it finds the *system* (XCode) clang
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# [07:13] <Callek> which is not good enough to build our browser on, but is good enough to build the few tools we need
# [07:14] <tbsaunde> Callek: ah, that would have been my guess
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# [07:14] <tbsaunde> isn't there a more sane way we can do this?
# [07:14] <ekr> philor: build seems to be fixed
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# [07:15] <Callek> tbsaunde: yea, hopefully there is... tbsaunde part of the problem is we have at least 3 seperate repack procedures, iirc.
# [07:15] <Callek> android-single-local-in-mozharness, android-multilocale-in-mozharness, desktop l10n, *release* desktop-l10n-in-mozharness
# [07:15] <Callek> iirc those are all different processes
# [07:16] <Callek> though desktop l10n is triggered by nightly builds and "checkins to l10n repos"
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# [07:16] <tbsaunde> I probably shouldn't be suprised but that sounds like madness
# [07:18] <aki> Callek: release desktop l10n is in tools/scripts
# [07:18] <ekr> madness? THIS. IS. MOZILLA!
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# [07:18] <Callek> aki: ooo I thought we already switched release desktop l10n to mozharness
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# [07:19] <aki> nope. massimo's working on desktop l10n -> mh though
# [07:19] <tbsaunde> Callek: if you're not the best person to work on it I wasn't really trying to make you deal with it
# [07:19] <Callek> tbsaunde: well, I approved the android switchover, so I can own making sure its worked on
# [07:19] <Callek> I can't promise an SLA at this point
# [07:20] <Callek> owning this part may mean I am going to work on it, but does not necessarily mean I will
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# [07:20] <tbsaunde> sure, I suspect if my trick works it will keep working for a while so I'm not terribly concerned
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# [07:21] <tbsaunde> but I wonder if we couldn't tell configure we only care about host binaries and have it ignore looking for the sdk / ndk since presumably they aren't needed? I have no idea what the l10n build does
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# [07:22] <Callek> tbsaunde: well there is --disable-compile-environment, but sadly we need a compiler for some of the l10n tools we use
# [07:22] <Callek> (e.g. creating the mar binary)
# [07:22] <Callek> mar binary is re: desktop though
# [07:22] <Callek> I don't pretend to know for sure what we need on the android side
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# [07:23] <Callek> its possible we do need the sdk/ndk for things like apk unpacking/repacking
# [07:24] <tbsaunde> Callek: yeah
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# [07:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/88d63d06dec9 - Martin Husemann - Bug 870325 - Fix alignment of Bindings on SPARC64. r=nnethercote.
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# [07:37] <Luke_1> Greetings all - I was wondering, is there a way to make the venkman debugger "step into" a thread.dispatch() ?
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# [07:38] <@roc> anyone know how to pull source code given a manifest like https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/b2g-manifest/blob/v1-train/otoro.xml ?
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# [07:41] <Mook> that looks like a manifest for `repo` (see android docs)
# [07:42] <Mook> (i.e. I think you want repo init -u git://github.com/mozilla-b2g/b2g-manifest.git - see http://source.android.com/source/using-repo.html )
# [07:42] <@roc> hmm, I think repo already pulled that stuff
# [07:42] <Mook> (or something, I have no idea what I'm talking about XD )
# [07:43] <jld> config.sh does the repo init and stuff
# [07:44] <tbsaunde> wonderful a wrapper around a wrapper around a tool
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# [07:48] <jld> Yes. There are failure modes related to having a wrapper around a wrapper around etc.
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# [07:48] <jld> e.g., there is a way to wind up in a state where a bunch of your repos have HEAD pointing to a revision that you don't have
# [07:49] <jld> git does not like being in that state
# [07:49] <tbsaunde> how is that possibly? I thought head pointed at what was checked out
# [07:49] <tbsaunde> I imagine so!
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# [07:50] <jld> I assume you can't git-checkout something that doesn't exist, but repo is... weird.
# [07:50] <jld> There is probably some git-update-ref involved.
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# [09:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/976829350bd6 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 877461. Part 3: Retry libstagefright audio/video decoding if it fails due to a timeout. r=sotaro
# [09:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdb9603a0d0b - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 877461. Part 2: Initialize VideoFrame members to 0. r=doublec
# [09:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d91e2d9da8d - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 865537. Part 1: Add nsRange::SetEnableGravitationOnElementRemoval to suppress 'gravitation' behavior on node removal. r=smaug
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# [10:16] <Six> what should i do when i receive a mail about regression in moz-inbound for a changeset where there is one of my patch??
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# [10:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/744b50c28290 - Robert O'Callahan - Fix build bustage for bug 877461
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# [10:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5a427cac5cf - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 880441. Fix erroneous assertion with double buffering; r=mattwoodrow
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# [10:59] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: ping
# [10:59] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: pong
# [11:00] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: hi :-) B2G reftest 1 is permafailing after your push (https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23889751&tree=Mozilla-Inbound) which cset should be backed out?
# [11:00] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: It's unexpected pass!
# [11:00] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: oh indeed!
# [11:00] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: was that expected?
# [11:01] <Six> maybe someone can now answer my question :)
# [11:01] <Six> what should i do when i receive a mail about regression in moz-inbound for a changeset where there is one of my patch??
# [11:01] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: Not at all, but I guess it's a good thing
# [11:01] <edmorley> Six: unless you think your patch could have been related, I would ignore it, since the ranges are pretty rough
# [11:02] <mattwoodrow> I don't really want to back anything out for accidentally making b2g better
# [11:02] <Six> edmorley: ok my patch is bout moz_override so it only affects compilation, so no worries about it
# [11:02] <edmorley> Six: correct
# [11:03] <Gijs> edmorley: quick question which I suspect you know about: if I want to back out everything up to revision X, can I use hg backout or should I do something like hg revert -r X --all, hg commit instead?
# [11:03] * Gijs is looking at hg help backout and not seeing it.
# [11:03] <Six> edmorley: ok thanks :)
# [11:05] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: Want me to push a change to mark it as ok now?
# [11:05] <edmorley> Gijs: if you wish to revert the working directory state to that of a previous changeset, then revert --all should be fine (presuming there are no changesets inbetween that you wish to preserve)
# [11:06] <edmorley> Gijs: if you want to easily backout a range (preserving some), I'd recommend qbackout (https://bitbucket.org/sfink/qbackout)
# [11:06] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: yes please :-)
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# [11:06] <Gijs> edmorley: no; I'm bisecting a regression range on try because I can't repro locally. Running win-debug-m1 only, probably going to run about 3 builds now, and then some more on the weekend. Trying to do this when load is low (so today, only this morning)
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# [11:07] <Gijs> so yeah, everything is getting removed. :)
# [11:08] <edmorley> Gijs: ah, the quicker way to do that might be to |hg update -r foo| then |hg qnew trychooser.diff -m "try: ..."|
# [11:08] <edmorley> Gijs: since try will build tip and tip will be the mq changeset which will be a descendant of the older revision you are interested in
# [11:08] <Gijs> Ah, interesting. Even if it's an empty changeset?
# [11:08] <edmorley> yeah
# [11:08] <Gijs> OK, cool!
# [11:09] <edmorley> there will be a second head of the latest inbound (or whatever) changeset, but since it's no longer tip of the repo, it will just be ignored
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# [11:30] <edmorley> mattwoodrow: it's not the end of the world for this time - but another time would it be ok to put the actual bug number rather than no bug? just helps when people are looking at hg log working out what landing fixed the failure
# [11:30] <mattwoodrow> edmorley: good point, will do
# [11:31] <edmorley> thank you :-)
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# [11:44] <SDUP> does someone know the mozilla's SOAP Impl. ? Did the tests pass (or Where i can find such info) ?
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# [11:45] <Gijs> SDUP: if memory serves me we removed SOAP...
# [11:45] <SDUP> i find that "Struct" parameter in SOAP wasn't handled but was still defined as a SOAPType
# [11:46] <SDUP> Gijs: yep
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# [11:46] <Gijs> Then I'm not sure what you're asking.
# [11:46] <SDUP> i try to convert the code to the latest mozilla-central code
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# [11:48] <SDUP> i want to know if all the tests for SOAP were correctly passed
# [11:48] <NeilAway> smaug: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d91e2d9da8d#l1.1
# [11:49] <NeilAway> smaug: shouldn't the early return be added, well, as early as possible?
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# [11:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cebcec9ca3c3 - Markus Stange - Bug 866027 - Recreate window corner mask when window resolution changes. r=bgirard
# [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2464333908a7 - JosiahOne - Bug 853105 - Allow double-click to minimize on windows with drawInTitlebar enabled. r=mstange, r=smichaud
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# [13:07] <Gijs> edmorley: new question... if I want to merge m-c changes into UX, when I pull m-c, if I pass the --rev option, is that going to get me everything up to that revision or only that revision?
# [13:07] <edmorley> Gijs: upto :-)
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# [13:08] <Gijs> edmorley: great, thanks! :)
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# [13:09] <edmorley> Gijs: if it's something you'll be doing regularly, if it helps I use http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2494773
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# [13:10] <edmorley> Gijs: with the one change that you'll need to pass in the --rev (or -r)
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# [13:11] <edmorley> when merging from m-c to other repos I typically take tip - it's only the other way around that I specify a rev
# [13:12] <Gijs> edmorley: dumb question: where does this go?
# [13:12] <edmorley> Gijs: in your bash .profile
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# [13:12] <edmorley> Gijs: ~/.profile
# [13:12] <Gijs> OK, great!
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# [13:13] <edmorley> Gijs: also replace 'mc' with whatever the mozilla-central repo is named in your local repos (or just https://.... if that's easier)
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# [13:13] <Gijs> :)
# [13:14] <Gijs> edmorley: so in this case tip hasn't built yet, so I guess I'm not technically sure it's a safe bet to merge from?
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# [13:15] <edmorley> Gijs: it's a mozconfig l10n only change, so will be fine :-)
# [13:15] <Gijs> Ah, OK, didn't check that yet.
# [13:15] <Gijs> Cool!
# [13:15] <edmorley> Gijs: android-only l10n change I should say (and UX doesn't build android)
# [13:15] <Gijs> Right...
# [13:16] <edmorley> Gijs: note that the script uses the repo directory name in the commit message - you may wish to tweak if you don't name yours things like 'ux'
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# [13:16] <Gijs> This is scary. But, hey, it works, and luckily no merge tool needed this time...
# [13:16] <Gijs> Oh.
# [13:17] <Gijs> Oops.
# [13:17] <Gijs> Well, "ux-central" will be clear enough.
# [13:17] <edmorley> Gijs: yeah definitely :-)
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# [13:18] <edmorley> Gijs: I meant more if you named it something generic
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# [13:20] <edmorley> Gijs: you could also replace the |hg push| with |hg outgoing| if you'd rather do the final push manually (I have a prompt for pushing into m-c, just not when merging out of it)
# [13:21] <Gijs> That sounds like a plan.
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# [13:31] <Gijs> So I'm looking at my try pushes earlier, and suddenly I'm having a small epiphany... I'm trying to figure out an orange on the UX branch. It's perma-oranging mochitest-1, only on windows 7/XP debug builds (assertion failures).
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# [13:31] <Gijs> edmorley: and I'm just realizing... if I'm hg up' ing into the changesets in that repo that are parents of the merge changeset... won't that give me a build without the UX changes?
# [13:32] <Gijs> edmorley: because when I look at the revisions for the merge, it's essentially showing the changes required to turn m-c into ux, at this point.
# [13:32] <edmorley> Gijs: it will have all the ux changes upto the last merge, but none on the other side of the merge since
# [13:32] <edmorley> if that makes sense?
# [13:33] <Gijs> Not really. :(
# [13:33] <Gijs> edmorley: essentially, all my try pushes came back green, and now I'm worried I'm not sending the right thing to try.
# [13:33] <Gijs> (although I didn't push something that corresponds to the last changeset of the merge, so it's possible some of the last csets that got merged are triggering the orange)
# [13:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/728ac315adcb - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 880129 - Correctly handle AnalyserNodes with a buffer size smaller than 128; r=roc
# [13:35] <edmorley> Gijs: UX is merged regularly, with this latest merge bringing 47 m-c changes across. if you hg up to somewhere in those 47, then you'll have UX (as of the merge previous to that) + a subset of the m-c changeset - however you won't have any of the UX changes that landed after yesterday's merge
# [13:35] <edmorley> (sorry this would be a lot easier with a whiteboard! :-))
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# [13:37] <Gijs> Yeah...
# [13:37] <Gijs> Oh, hmm.
# [13:37] <Gijs> so if the orange was triggered by some combination of the merge plus something recent on UX, all the builds would come back green, is what you're saying?
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# [13:37] <Gijs> (recent being, since the last merge)
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# [13:40] <Optimizer> what is the xul corresponding to <input list="listID" /> kind of input box ?
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# [13:49] <NeilAway> Optimizer: not seen one of those, but my guess would be <menulist> or <menulist editable="true">
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# [13:50] <Optimizer> NeilAway: yeah, thats what I want ..
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# [13:57] <Gijs> edmorley: so can you sanity-check https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880149#c3 ? :)
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# [14:01] <edmorley> Gijs: m1 assertions yeah? they seem to have been greened up on UX in the last couple of pushes, unless I'm missing something like a test-disabling?
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# [14:02] <Gijs> Uhm.
# [14:02] <Gijs> Hey, look at that.
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# [14:02] <Gijs> edmorley: yeah. They were perma-orange before I set a default sizemode, though.
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# [14:03] <Gijs> edmorley: so https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=UX&rev=13e40012da07 is green, everything before was orange. And I only pushed that this morning, after I started the try runs, so I didn't notice...
# [14:03] <Gijs> but, good point!
# [14:03] <edmorley> :-)
# [14:04] <Gijs> now if I knew *why* it's suddenly green when it wasn't before...
# [14:04] <Gijs> Although I suppose it kiiiiinda makes sense, given what that push was fixing.
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# [14:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ae723d89b73 - Daniel Holbert - back out ac18c74b3a2c (Bug 874736) since it was independently fixed elsewhere
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# [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa9a0b34bbd8 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 878435 - In asmjs mode, compare in uint32 mode only if both operands are unsigned. r=luke
# [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6db31e46b02 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 878495 - In shell, print "[native code]" for native functions. r=luke
# [14:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0a027c965a33 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 877908 - Precludes also directives after "use asm". r=luke
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# [14:27] <simonab> Gijs: I tried your suggestions when trying to click on an anonymous element (in my case I click on the cancel button in the downloads panel with an in progress download). I still get an error when clicking on the cancel button
# [14:27] <simonab> "Component returned failure code: 0x80520006 (NS_ERROR_FILE_TARGET_DOES_NOT_EXIST) [nsILocalFile.remove]" nsresult: "0x80520006 (NS_ERROR_FILE_TARGET_DOES_NOT_EXIST)"
# [14:27] <simonab> do you have any ideea why?
# [14:28] <Gijs> Uhm, the .part file that the cancel button would try to remove doesn't exist?
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# [14:28] <Gijs> Which probably means the download is already finished.
# [14:28] <Gijs> I mean, that's just an idea...
# [14:28] <Gijs> but the error does say it's trying to remove a file that doesn't exist. :)
# [14:28] <Gijs> I can't think of what else cancelling a download would remove.
# [14:29] <Gijs> So that sounds like a good place to start looking!
# [14:29] <simonab> Gijs: the download should be in the downloading state, not finished
# [14:29] <simonab> ok
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# [14:41] <Gijs> Do XBL bindings exist on a node before it's in the document?
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# [14:41] <Gijs> and if not, what happens if I set an (at that point) expando property on the node, and then the XBL binding has a property of that name?
# [14:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fee06d61d20 - Raymond Lee - Bug 852957 - Add tests for channel decoding when the Content-Encoding header is present. r=paolo
# [14:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9ae1381518a - Marcos A. Di Pietro - Bug 871524 - Fine tune Reader Mode margins for tablet landscape mode. r=mleibovic
# [14:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/105a243547d3 - Evan Wallace - Bug 879374 - Add mozPressure support for OS X. r=smichaud
# [14:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d33985da55b - Arnaud Sourioux - Bug 880089 - Remove unused parameter 'flags' from nsIXPConnect.idl's in setDefaultSecurityManager() methods correctly. r=bholley
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# [14:46] <NeilAway> Gijs: nasty things, mostly
# [14:46] <Gijs> :(
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# [14:47] <NeilAway> Gijs: worse still, adding it to the document doesn't help if its parent is display: none;
# [14:48] <Gijs> fun
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# [14:48] <Gijs> so I can workaround by setAttribute("disabled", "true")
# [14:48] <Gijs> but this was messing with my head for a bit.
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# [14:52] <hsivonen> scary to see "UX P1" on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=879234
# [14:54] <mcsmurf> hm, does not look that urgent to me, but who knows ;)
# [14:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/166c6df896ba - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 875449 - Bustage fix.
# [14:55] <Ms2ger> Could be worse
# [14:55] <Ms2ger> A Partner requesting it, say
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# [15:04] <Optimizer> NeilAway: that does not give suggestions as I type :(
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# [15:13] <NeilAway> Optimizer: oh, hardcore? then you want <textbox type="autocomplete">
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# [15:14] <Optimizer> but then I would have to write the autocomplete engine
# [15:14] <Optimizer> I have an array from which I want to suggest
# [15:14] <Optimizer> similar to how datalist + input list = datalist's id work
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# [15:15] <Gijs> Optimizer: any reason not to just use html:input list="" ?
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# [15:16] <Optimizer> wanted to do things in xul .
# [15:16] <Optimizer> (as far as possible)
# [15:16] <Optimizer> (I gues this is as far as It goes)
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# [16:32] <catlee> jlebar: you've mentioned compressing multiple logs together as a way to save on space. but doesn't that really increase the complexity of storing and retrieving them?
# [16:33] <catlee> or would you compress all logs for a day in a single archive, or something similar
# [16:33] <catlee> I'm sure xz could do amazing things with a day's worth of logs
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# [16:34] <nemo> there's a w3m feature I love, and use all the time as my default "new tab"
# [16:34] <nemo> that is, shift-T spawns a new tab right next to first tab with identical content. even form fields.
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# [16:36] <@ted> nemo: not AFAIK
# [16:37] <@ted> i think there's probably a "clone tab" extension
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# [16:37] <AutomatedTester> there used to be a way
# [16:38] <mstange> nemo: you can also clone a tab by dragging it in the tabbar and pressing the right key
# [16:38] <mstange> nemo: not sure whether that works for form field contents
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# [16:41] <nemo> mstange: hm. having a hard time figuring that out
# [16:41] <nemo> mstange: left click on tab, drag it, hold down right mouse button as well, release?
# [16:41] <mstange> oh
# [16:41] <mstange> I meant "correct" key
# [16:41] <mstange> on Mac it's option
# [16:41] <mstange> on Windows maybe ctrl?
# [16:41] <nemo> linux
# [16:41] <philor> RyanVM: you've still got bustage on the tip of inbound
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# [16:42] <nemo> woot
# [16:42] <mstange> yay
# [16:42] <nemo> let's try that w/ a form
# [16:42] <RyanVM> philor: I figured as much
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# [16:43] <nemo> mstange: seems to work on non-password form fields. yay.
# [16:43] <nemo> thanks!
# [16:43] <mstange> cool
# [16:43] <mstange> no problem
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# [16:43] <nemo> keystroke combo would be even nicer
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# [16:43] <philor> probably just a shell-only test that isn't saying it is, but I don't remember how to say it is in the modern era
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# [16:48] <reyre_> Ms2ger: do you know what i have to change the test url that is outputted on the cl?
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> Say what?
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# [16:54] <reyre_> Ms2ger: so when i run mochitest-plain i get test-unknown-url, like so: 0:11.50 TEST-PASS | unknown test url | <tr> is an instance of HTMLUnknownElement
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# [16:54] <reyre_> is there any way to set what's shown for 'test url'?
# [16:55] <Ms2ger> That's only when you run a single test, no?
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# [16:56] <reyre_> Ms2ger: i've only seen it when running a single test
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# [16:57] <Ms2ger> Right
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> It gets the right URL when you run more
# [16:57] <RyanVM> philor: i was going to go with trying to use a debug-only feature on opt builds
# [16:58] <reyre_> Ms2ger: ah okay, thanks :)
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> Np
# [16:58] <reyre_> Ms2ger: also, would you happen to know what kind of stream would be passed into the WebVTTLoadListener for 'text/vtt' files ?
# [16:58] <Ms2ger> No
# [16:59] <reyre_> okay
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# [17:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c41a3e24a574 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge fx-team to m-c.
# [17:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/73483f4906a7 - Tim Taubert - Bug 878747 - part 2 - use the new 'nodefaultsrc' attribute for browsers; r=dao
# [17:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/24ed4a030670 - Victor Porof - Bug 877351 - Network Panel is broken on RTL UI, r=rcampbell
# [17:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3e61f95c02d6 - Gijs Kruitbosch - Bug 879961 - Remove unused arrows.png files, r=robcee
# [17:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/76bea01d8db1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
# [17:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/26afe15af309 - Victor Porof - Bug 852639 - Make the BreadcrumbsWidget keyboard accessible, r=rcampbell
# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fa60aab7fa57 - Tim Taubert - Bug 878747 - part 1 - implement 'nodefaultsrc' attribute for XUL frames; r=smaug
# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/72b104307890 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 877773 - If Browser console is staying opened, Browser UI freezes for a while when open youtube page; r=robcee
# [17:07] <jlebar> catlee: Sure, it does increase the complexity of retrieving them. That's a trade-off.
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# [17:07] <jlebar> catlee: I got the impression that we were trying to be very conservative about how much disk space we used, so I thought maybe that would be a worthwhile trade-off.
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# [17:08] <catlee> jlebar: ah, I don't think the logs are that big in the scheme of things
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# [17:09] <Gijs> do we have user-readable docs on what changes between the weekly beta updates?
# [17:09] <Gijs> Someone in #firefox is asking about the difference between 22b3 and b4.
# [17:09] <Gijs> I am unaware of such a thing, but I could just not know? :)
# [17:10] <gaston> besides hg log...
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# [17:12] <philor> RyanVM: looks more like d6db31e46b02 to me, since it's testBug878495.js failing
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# [17:14] <RyanVM> GAH
# [17:14] <RyanVM> wrong one
# [17:14] <RyanVM> dammit
# [17:14] <RyanVM> stupid adjacent csets
# [17:14] <philor> ALL THE THINGS has its advantages ;)
# [17:14] <Gijs> gaston: user-readable? ;)
# [17:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a178af222dd4 - Ehsan Akhgari - Test case for bug 880342
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# [17:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a6922661215 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 878435 - In asmjs mode, compare in uint32 mode only if both operands are unsigned. r=luke
# [17:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a15f36c774a8 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset d6db31e46b02 (bug 878495) for jit-test failures.
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# [17:18] <RyanVM> philor: thanks for noticing :)
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# [17:32] <Ms2ger> A nice one, though
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# [17:44] <firebot> zwol was last seen 10 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 42 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying 'kinetik: it's possible you might be able to put sed into 'extended regex' mode with an option' in #developers.
# [17:44] <GPHemsley> hmm
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# [17:49] <GPHemsley> What's the best place to talk about [ Core :: CSS Parsing and Computation ] / [ Core :: Networking ] / [ Core :: Networking: HTTP ] ?
# [17:50] <@bz> talk in what sense?
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# [17:51] <GPHemsley> bz: Maybe I should just talking to you directly, since zwol isn't on IRC. I'm looking to discuss the sniffing rules for a style context.
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# [17:51] <@bz> you mean loading a stylesheet?
# [17:51] <@bz> Sure
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# [17:53] <GPHemsley> I'm referring specifically to the issues in bug 560388, bug 562377, and bug 560392, as they relate to the mimesniff spec.
# [17:54] <GPHemsley> I'm looking to flesh out http://mimesniff.spec.whatwg.org/#sniffing-in-a-style-context with the requirements you're looking for.
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# [18:06] <edmorley> jcranmer: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23903843&tree=Mozilla-Central
# [18:07] <edmorley> jcranmer: oh sorry ignore me, that wasn't static analysis only
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# [18:08] <GPHemsley> bz: Still with me?
# [18:08] <ekr> do we have any tools for analyzing which variables are used on which threads?
# [18:08] <ekr> I'm happy to decorate both functions and variables for this purpose
# [18:09] <@bz> orry
# [18:09] <@bz> back
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# [18:10] <@bz> GPHemsley: so define "sniffing"?
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# [18:11] <@bz> GPHemsley: how about I describe how MIME sniffing works in gecko?
# [18:11] <@bz> GPHemsley: or rather MIME type determination
# [18:11] <GPHemsley> bz: This is mostly new stuff
# [18:12] <GPHemsley> but if you want to describe things, I'll listen :)
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# [18:14] <GPHemsley> bz: See also: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Contexts
# [18:14] <Ms2ger> ekr, not afaik
# [18:14] <ekr> Ms2ger: thanks
# [18:15] <@bz> GPHemsley: So in gecko, the network layer is responsible for determining a MIME type
# [18:15] <@bz> GPHemsley: the caller is allowed to provide a hint to use if there is no network-level MIME information
# [18:15] <padenot> ehsan|busy: pong
# [18:15] <@bz> GPHemsley: the CSS loader provides "text/css"
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# [18:16] <@bz> GPHemsley: so if the HTTP response has no Content-Type header we end up treating it as text/css
# [18:16] <@bz> GPHemsley: That's what https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562377 is about
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# [18:16] <@bz> GPHemsley: So ok, now what's the question?
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# [18:18] <GPHemsley> bz: My goal here is to put together an algorithm/set of rules that (describe how to) fix those three bugs I mentioned (and whatever others may crop up)
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# [18:18] <@bz> GPHemsley: assuming we want to
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# [18:19] <@bz> GPHemsley: The way to fix them is to not pass in a text/css hint, fwiw
# [18:19] <@bz> GPHemsley: and then just see what necko comes up with for the type
# [18:20] <@bz> GPHemsley: which will suck for file://
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# [18:20] <@bz> GPHemsley: another option is to have a hint mechanism that differentiates between "no MIME info available from network" and "no MIME info _could_ be available from network"
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# [18:20] <@bz> GPHemsley: and uses the hint in the latter case but not the former.
# [18:20] <GPHemsley> bz: Perhaps we should back up
# [18:21] <@bz> Perhaps, yes. ;)
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# [18:21] <@bz> That's what I was trying to do
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# [18:21] <GPHemsley> bz: No, I mean further than that :)
# [18:21] <GPHemsley> bz: We should perhaps start here: http://mimesniff.spec.whatwg.org/#supplied-mime-type-detection-algorithm
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# [18:22] <@bz> I think the concept of that algorithm is wrong
# [18:22] <@bz> the "supplied type" for http and file means different things
# [18:23] <@bz> for http it's authoritative in many cases but for file it's not
# [18:23] <@bz> so for example
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# [18:23] <@bz> <link rel="stylesheet" href="foo">
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# [18:23] <@bz> If that's loaded over HTTP and the response says text/plain, and we're in standards mode, it's not a stylesheet
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# [18:24] <@bz> but if it's loaded over file:// and the filesystem says text/plain and we're in standards mode, it's a stylesheet
# [18:24] <GPHemsley> I'll admit I haven't looked too far into how the type is determined with file://
# [18:25] <@bz> well, so
# [18:25] <@bz> the fact that all this stuff has to work with non-http is what makes it so friggin' complicated and annoying
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# [18:26] <@bz> Anyway
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# [18:27] <@bz> That's my feedback on the supplied mime type bit: it makes no sense as a concept the way it is now
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# [18:27] <@bz> next?
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# [18:27] <@bsmedberg> aha! s/nsIAtom/Stringleton/ thanks blizzard
# [18:28] <froydnj> Stringleton?
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# [18:28] <Mossop> A singleton string ... obviously
# [18:28] <@bz> bsmedberg: btw, thank you for jumping in on the string stuff..
# [18:29] <GPHemsley> bz: I'm confused; was your feedback that the whole thing is flawed because of file:// ?
# [18:29] <GPHemsley> bz: Because I'm trying to focus on HTTP right now
# [18:29] <@bz> GPHemsley: it's flawed because it tries to define a single concept where there need to be multiple concepts
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# [18:29] <@bz> GPHemsley: If we restrict to HTTP, then it seems fine
# [18:30] <@bz> GPHemsley: of course it's not a MIME type
# [18:30] <GPHemsley> bz: OK, so, for the purposes of this discussion, let's do that
# [18:30] <@bz> GPHemsley: It's an HTTP header value
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# [18:30] <GPHemsley> bz: Because this was not the part I was trying to focus on
# [18:30] <@bz> GPHemsley: As currently defined
# [18:30] <@bz> ok
# [18:30] <@bz> 5 minutes are up
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# [18:30] <@bz_away> I should be back in about 2 hours
# [18:31] <GPHemsley> k
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# [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/606e6dbf61e1 - Jared Wein - Bug 880568 - _do_check_eq/_do_check_neq/do_print should put double-quotes around argument if the typeof argument is 'string'. r=ted
# [18:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cab2b2d81f3c - Jared Wein - Bug 880573 - Remove duplication between do_report_result and _do_check_neq. r=ted
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# [18:53] <NeilAway> lol @ Stringleton
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# [18:54] <ehsan|busy> padenot: I was wondering if you're going to land the panner node tests?
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# [18:55] <padenot> ehsan|busy: yes
# [18:56] <ehsan|busy> thanks
# [18:56] <padenot> I got sidetracked by some weird stuff in the sse2 patch
# [18:56] <ehsan|busy> what weird stuff?
# [18:56] <padenot> apparently jemalloc + linux64 was hiding an alignment bug
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# [18:57] <bholley> Honza: ping
# [18:58] <Honza> bholley: pong
# [18:58] <padenot> ehsan|busy: anyway, you'll have to rereview a little part of the patch I'm afraid
# [18:58] <ehsan|busy> that's ok!
# [18:58] <bholley> Honza: I'm fixing that bug, but it's going to be a lot of code change, so it would be good for you to test before I land. If you tell me what platform you prefer, I can include try builds for you to test
# [18:59] <Honza> bholley: which bug you mean?
# [18:59] <bholley> Honza: bug 880697
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# [18:59] <Honza> bholley: ok, I am on windows
# [19:00] <Honza> bholley: let, me know when the try build is ready and I'll test it!
# [19:00] <bholley> Honza: ok, I'll include those in the try push :-)
# [19:00] <Honza> thanks! :-)
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# [19:07] <bnicholson> what does it mean when i see this trying to push to try?: remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:520'
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# [19:15] <andzaytsev> Hello! Is it normal that the current version of code in the repository can't be compiled under Mac OS X?
# [19:16] <Mook_as> andzaytsev: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ says that, no, it's not normal.
# [19:16] <KWierso|Home> andzaytsev: define "current"?
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# [19:16] <Mook_as> (current - 1 might be though!)
# [19:16] <jcranmer> are you sure you're using clang to build and not gcc?
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# [19:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/498f79c24e70 - Mike de Boer - Bug 860560: make sure that defaultEngine and currentEngine stay in sync, r=gavin
# [19:19] <msucan> bnicholson: it means try servers are unhappy
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# [19:19] <msucan> i'm also having the same issue. i can't push to try
# [19:19] <bnicholson> msucan: yeah, #it said they're looking into it
# [19:19] <msucan> cool
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# [19:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a6d3e4e7c87 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 854478: remove support for automatically converting Sherlock-format search engines that were dropped into the profile directory, r=MattN
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# [19:28] <tbsaunde> can anyone load https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=9ab7a7637298 ?
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# [19:31] <KWierso|Home> tbsaunde: I know people are having trouble pushing to try recently
# [19:32] <KWierso|Home> but no, it hangs at 9%
# [19:32] <andzaytsev> I do hg pull from my mozilla-central folder
# [19:32] <Mook_as> tbsaunde: it doesn't load here, but it's currently still visible if you scroll down the main tbpl page (without the rev)
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# [19:32] <andzaytsev> And compile with ./mach build
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# [19:33] <Mook_as> (and is burning on mac)
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# [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/195a1146daa0 - Aki Sasaki - bug 868599 - update gaia.json with repo_path. r=jgriffin
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# [19:43] <rail> jrmuizel: that's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880740
# [19:44] <@bz_away> GPHemsley: back
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# [19:44] <jrmuizel> rail: thanks
# [19:45] <rail> np
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# [19:47] <decoder> bjacob: i mixed two bugs when I commented on the bug right now. however, the alloc-dealloc mismatch is a real bug
# [19:47] <decoder> we are not using jemalloc for asan builds
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# [19:47] <@bz> bsmedberg: happy to talk about the DOM string stuff whenever you want, btw
# [19:48] <bjacob> decoder: so the allocator mismatch is between what and what allocator?
# [19:48] <decoder> bjacob: between the c allocator malloc and the c++ allocator delete
# [19:48] <decoder> one must not use malloc and then delete the memory
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# [19:48] <decoder> or vica versa
# [19:48] <decoder> (new vs. free)
# [19:48] <bjacob> decoder: oh and these may be different, when we are not using jemalloc
# [19:48] <bjacob> i see
# [19:49] <decoder> exactly
# [19:49] <decoder> and thats why asan is complaining
# [19:49] <bjacob> decoder: sorry then, reopening the bug
# [19:49] <bjacob> decoder: bug # ?
# [19:49] <decoder> 880193
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# [19:50] <decoder> (using malloc with delete *can* work btw, but delete calls destructors while malloc does not call constructors)
# [19:50] <decoder> same thing for new which calls constructors vs. free not calling destructors, leading to memleaks
# [19:50] <@bsmedberg> bz: I added it to my list, but I'd like to defer it for a couple weeks until the new plugin doorhanger lands
# [19:51] <@bz> bsmedberg: ok
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# [19:51] <@bz> bsmedberg: No rush
# [19:51] <bjacob> decoder: the bigger problem is that they may be using different allocators altogether
# [19:51] <bjacob> decoder: only when using jemalloc do we know that it's not the case.
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# [19:53] <tbsaunde> bz: trying to optimize strings?
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# [19:54] <@bz> tbsaunde: trying to decide how strings should work in servo
# [19:54] <decoder> bjacob: ah ok :) ive only read about the constructor vs. destructor issue (which is also an issue with jemalloc btw)
# [19:54] <decoder> so such a mismatch can lead to security issues even with jemalloc
# [19:55] <tbsaunde> bz: ah
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# [19:56] <@bz> Where is NS_OK defined nowadays?
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# [19:57] <froydnj> bz: xpcom/base/ErrorList.h
# [19:57] <froydnj> hm, or maybe by whatever #include's that
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# [19:58] <bjacob> decoder: yes,you are right. i was just focusing on one class of bugs here. but it is absolutely true that free()ing instead of delete'ing is a big pattern of c++ bugs
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# [20:03] <jwir3> Ms2ger: ping?
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# [20:03] <Ms2ger> Yessir?
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# [20:03] <GPHemsley> bz: Maybe I need to back up even further
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# [20:04] <jwir3> Ms2ger: So, I'm adding an API that will retrieve the font size inflation from chrome js for a given element. (It's a restricted permission API). I was intending on putting it in Element.webidl, but I don't know if that's the right place. Would you recommend another location?
# [20:04] <Ms2ger> That's probably fine
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# [20:05] <jwir3> ok, cool.
# [20:06] <GPHemsley> bz: I'm trying to write this spec so that it fits neatly into what's described here: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Contexts
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# [20:06] <GPHemsley> bz: The problem, perhaps, is that the concept of a "context" is not fully formed, and exists mostly in my head.
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# [20:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcdcf78fa4e3 - Paul Adenot - Bug 878875 - Port Blink's LayoutTest for PannerNode to mochitest-plain. r=ehsan
# [20:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b61e0a52d29c - Paul Adenot - Bug 878875 - Import PannerNode tests from Blink. r=ehsan
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# [20:11] <Yoric> Mmmmh...
# [20:11] <Yoric> No tbpl?
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# [20:15] <GPHemsley> bz: So, from within HTML or CSS, you are often required to fetch resources external to the document at hand.
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# [20:15] <GPHemsley> bz: Each one of these fetches falls into a particular context.
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# [20:16] <GPHemsley> bz: (Not all contexts are yet explicitly defined, but they're mostly intuitive.)
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# [20:17] <GPHemsley> bz: When you do the fetch, you must determine what the type of the resource is and how to handle it.
# [20:17] <GPHemsley> bz: The processing of the metadata and resource header is common to all context types.
# [20:18] <GPHemsley> bz: But each context type has its own set of rules for processing that metadata: the browsing context requires the most special handling for legacy compat reasons, but each context type should have its own instructions defined for clarity.
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# [20:19] <GPHemsley> bz: Section 5 in the current version of the mimesniff spec is the common processing stuff; what is currently section 8 is the home of the context-specific processing.
# [20:20] <GPHemsley> bz: (The layout of the spec is currently in flux because this context stuff is new.)
# [20:20] * edmorley changes topic to 'Pushing to Try / tbpl for Try slow? bug 880740 || Next uplift 24 June || Want to help? See #introduction || http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=developers'
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# [20:21] <GPHemsley> bz: Putting aside that there may be major differences between HTTP and other protocols that I've yet to fully grasp, do you have a problem with this so far?
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# [20:27] <edmorley> froydnj: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try and press down
# [20:27] <edmorley> hgweb seems to not mind that as much
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# [20:29] <froydnj> w00, somebody starring failures on try
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# [20:36] <philor> froydnj: yeah, because try build slaves are a separate pool, so broken slaves never get fixed in the ordinary course of events
# [20:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29363d0fd7ff - Terrence Cole - Bug 880392 - Fix use-after free with exact rooting in XPCShell; r=sfink
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# [20:37] <philor> gavin: orange
# [20:37] <sfink> we could reimage them and swap the pools once in a while...
# [20:37] <@gavin> philor: looking
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# [20:38] <philor> hmm, and tbpl's sticking the selection when it shouldn't, that's the second time I've started to star something, realized I didn't want to, and then starred it as the next thing I starred
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# [20:41] <@bsmedberg> is there a mach command for "run all the damn tests in dom/plugins" ?
# [20:41] <Ms2ger> Nope
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# [20:41] <Ms2ger> Until everything is in moz.build, that's pretty hard
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# [20:42] <@gavin> philor: I'll back out 860560
# [20:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/52e83bf32c77 - David Zbarsky - Bug 798438 - Use a dictionary to set context options instead of an nsIPropertyBag r=bz
# [20:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/313de3a7c9e2 - David Zbarsky - Bug 879998 - Remove some dead code in content/events r=smaug
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# [20:44] <hsivonen> Why does Nightly in Android want access to read/write my call log?
# [20:45] <hsivonen> also, why read/write contacts? did the contacts API get exposed on Android?
# [20:45] <reuben> I see clippy was removed from mach. did we get a takedown letter from microsoft? :)
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# [20:46] <sfink> reuben: sadly, it seems not so good an idea from an accessibility standpoint
# [20:46] <sfink> I liked it
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# [20:46] <reuben> ooh, of course
# [20:46] <reuben> a11y is hard
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# [20:56] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: why can't mach just do for i in mochitest-chrome mochitest-plain mocitest-browser-chrome mochitest-a11y reftest crashtest; do make $i; done?
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# [20:57] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, that might work for mochitests, but not for reftests/crashtests
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# [21:02] <froydnj> image comparison (==), max difference: 255, number of differing pixels: 94 -- why did this fail if the number of differing pixels is less than the maximum?
# [21:03] <Ms2ger> Max difference is how different the colours can be
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# [21:03] <nalexander> hsivonen: you can ask in #mobile about Android perms. tl;dr Web Contacts API is coming
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# [21:04] <froydnj> that seems odd
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# [21:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59fc33c899c4 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 880539 - Fix CodeGenerator::guardTypeSet to handle MagicArgs type. r=bhackett
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# [21:09] <seth> sigh... loading 9%
# [21:09] <jesup> Is try hosed again? my pushes to try aren't finishing
# [21:09] <philor> /topic
# [21:09] <Ms2ger> jesup, try again, they're just slow
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# [21:10] <seth> seems pointless if you can't load the results, anyway. which i can't =(
# [21:10] <jesup> ok, how slow is "slow"? I'll let it sit.....
# [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4c129a5676eb - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 871485 - Share hw codec between applications/tasks. r=mwu, r=doublec, r=roc
# [21:10] <Ms2ger> Didn't time it :)
# [21:11] <jesup> seth: trick: load results using &pusher= instead of by id
# [21:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/952393b787bf - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 880268 - Handle default pixel format in BytesPerPixelForPixelFormat(). r=vlad
# [21:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/47aba2f7bd77 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
# [21:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4f30d257a8fa - Fabrice Desré - Bug 878388 - errors when uninstalling applications 'msg is undefined' r=ferjm a=leo
# [21:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8e7a612cc232 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
# [21:11] <jesup> seth: usually works when "normal" loads stall at 9%
# [21:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cbefbd6f0675 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4c129a5676eb (bug 871485) for mochitest-1 failures.
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# [21:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5860d85b0006 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 878495 - In shell, print "[native code]" for native functions. r=luke
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# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c129a5676eb - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 871485 - Share hw codec between applications/tasks. r=mwu, r=doublec, r=roc
# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbefbd6f0675 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 4c129a5676eb (bug 871485) for mochitest-1 failures.
# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e7a612cc232 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to birch.
# [21:29] <joe> )@(#&*$ bnicholson and ryanvm you quick monsters
# [21:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/952393b787bf - Sotaro Ikeda - Bug 880268 - Handle default pixel format in BytesPerPixelForPixelFormat(). r=vlad
# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eebeea69662c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge inbound to m-c.
# [21:30] <firebot> Check-in:
# [21:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00c0970b6926 - Joe Drew - Bug 876499 - If a looping image is being asked to advance to a time that is more than one loop in the future, skip the intermediate frames and simply jump to the next
# [21:30] <firebot> multiple of the loop count. r=seth
# [21:31] <RyanVM> joe: :D
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# [21:31] <RyanVM> joe: I'm done now :P
# [21:31] <joe> :)
# [21:31] <joe> i already pushed
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# [21:33] <ialagenchev> NeilAway: figured it out. I created a custom type, which I then passed to my method and it seems to work. Thanks for asking
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# [21:34] <RyanVM> oh boy, a new jhammel landing to backout!
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# [21:35] <jhammel> RyanVM: :(
# [21:35] <jhammel> oh, its not even red yet
# [21:35] <jhammel> *yet*
# [21:35] <philor> yeah, before it's even picked up all the build slaves is maybe a little premature
# [21:36] <RyanVM> hey, I just run on precedent :P
# [21:36] <jhammel> when i get a bit of time, i'll write a script to backout concurrent to pushing
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# [21:38] <philor> by picking a slave with a busted objdir from previous bustage?
# [21:39] <philor> previous bustage which got merged around, so we need to clobber everything on every tree?
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# [21:49] <openjck> Hey developers! Would anyone here be interested in serving as a judge for Mozilla's Dev Derby contest? Judging takes about 15 minutes per month, and helps aspiring web developers get valuable feedback from development professionals. Usually judges do three-month commitments, but whatever.
# [21:49] <openjck> https://developer.mozilla.org/demos/devderby
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# [21:53] <rillian> dumitru: my try push is hung again
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# [21:58] <tbsaunde> emptyString() or something like that
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# [22:08] <mbrubeck> Using Aurora, I think I just lost all or most of my cookies when restarting the browser. :/
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# [22:27] <jwalden> froydnj: commented in the double-punning bug with a somewhat different approach, btw
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# [22:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/33a3d0e4bc18 - Federico Paolinelli - Bug 876485 - Moved clipboard code from GeckoAppShell to a separate Clipboard class. Changed jni calls to new methods. r=cpeterson
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# [22:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a36f160d685e - Joe Drew - Bug 878751 - Port a bug fix from Chrome back to Mozilla. r=jlebar
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# [22:57] <Gijs> If I have patches a/b/c on my stack, can I make a change and have it added to patch a, some easier way than qpop-ing to a, making the change, and qpushing b and c again?
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# [22:59] <Mook_as> make a new patch, and then... yeah, qpop to a, qfold, qpush b & c :| that's not actually more helpful, is it.
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# [23:01] <lgarner> Hi all. I'm trying to create a JS WebIDL implementation, and found this example "MyNumber" code Bug 827486, attachment 720058. I haven't been able to instantiate it in JS, or attach it to "window.navigator" with the property [NavigatorProperty="PropertyName" ]. Is there a better, more recent example of JS WebIDL I can look at?
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# [23:03] <mccr8> is it just me, or did mach -l filename used to log everything, but now it only logs errors?
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# [23:04] <Gijs> Mook_as: nup. :)
# [23:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/53318030bbb1 - David Zbarsky - [Bug 879998] Remove some dead code in content/ r=Ms2ger, emk
# [23:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9b9d53a5c2d - David Zbarsky - Bug 880037: Don't try to mark message managers when we're not in the root process r=jlebar
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# [23:14] <Gijs> Is there an easy way to trigger the session restore window? IIRC we used to have an add-on to just crash your browser, but I don't remember where it is. :(
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# [23:17] <Mook_as> Gijs: possibly more useful: http://code.google.com/p/crashme/ ?
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# [23:18] <Gijs> Anyone else seeing empty rows in their awesomebar autocomplete on nightly?
# [23:18] <Gijs> Mook_as: awesome, thanks.
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# [23:18] <Gijs> Google was terribly unhelpful.
# [23:19] <Gijs> "Troubleshoot add-ons crashing your Firefox"
# [23:19] <Gijs> etc.
# [23:19] <Gijs> Mook_as: sadly, it's not working? :(
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# [23:26] <nemo> So. I'm mildly curious protocol wise
# [23:26] <nemo> Alice0775 THANK YOU! took the time to track down the regression window and bug for my pain in:
# [23:26] <nemo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=870794
# [23:26] <nemo> And, tagged it as blocking a fixed bug
# [23:27] <nemo> Well, that seems odd to me. If the bug is fixed, how can something block? Shouldn't it be reopened if a new blocker appears?
# [23:27] <jdm> nemo: nope, reopened is only used for when a commit is backed out (ideally)
# [23:27] <nemo> 'k
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# [23:27] <Mook_as> nemo: are you talking to people who are not here?
# [23:27] <jdm> marking it as blocking just allows us to see at a glance how much pain a commit has caused when looking later
# [23:27] <nemo> Mook_as: naw. that was just to the channel. Was just curious about bugzilla rules
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# [23:28] <nemo> Mook_as: it might have been more appropriate in some other channel tho. sorry
# [23:28] <Mook_as> oh, I meant the thanking part :)
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# [23:28] <nemo> Mook_as: ah. well. I have no idea if she is here or not :)
# [23:28] <nemo> so is just a general shoutout
# [23:28] <nemo> jdm: gotcha
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# [23:32] <@gavin> can mach run mochitest-browser without --close-when-done?
# [23:32] <@gavin> hmm, does it just use the targets under the hood?
# [23:33] <@gavin> RUN_MOCHITEST seems to pass close-when-done unconditionally
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# [23:35] <@gavin> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880857
# [23:35] <Mossop> gavin: --keep-open
# [23:36] <@gavin> bah, I just found that
# [23:36] <@gavin> way to go docs
# [23:36] <Mossop> It's right there in mach help mochitest-browser ;)
# [23:36] <@gavin> I couldn't find mach help mochitest-browser
# [23:36] <@gavin> I tried mach --help mochitest-browser
# [23:37] <@gavin> and "mach mochitest-browser --help"
# [23:37] <Mossop> Yeah, I find mach's argument handling a little weird sometimes too
# [23:37] <@gavin> and "mach mochitest-browser"
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# [23:39] <dcamp> gavin: on the plus side you probably saw the damned paperclip.
# [23:39] <dcamp> a few times.
# [23:39] <dcamp> grumble.
# [23:40] <@gavin> I didn't
# [23:40] <@gavin> when does that show up?
# [23:40] <dcamp> oh they got rid of it
# [23:40] <dcamp> nice.
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# [23:40] <dcamp> when *I* had trouble remembering syntax it took half a dozen ascii-art paperclips before I figured out what I needed.
# [23:40] <dcamp> or maybe I just put my fist through the screen, I don't remember.
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# [23:47] <Mossop> dcamp: I saw it, I think it's still there somewhere
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# [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a8e61d04f786 - Jared Wein - Bug 872711 - Fix specified property value for border-{top,bottom}-left-radius. r=mixedpuppy
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# [23:53] <taras> khuey|away: is njn back from vacation yet?
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# [23:53] <@smaug> taras: afaik yes
# [23:54] <@smaug> he was here few days ago
# [23:54] <taras> thanks smaug
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# [23:54] <@smaug> http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=mozilla%23developers&s=3+Jun+2013&e=3+Jun+2013&h=njn#c655795
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