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9. # [00:02] <sriram> is there any way i can control the depth and the color of layers in "tilt mode" ?
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18. # [00:05] <KWierso|Home> sriram: not that I'm aware of, though #devtools might be a better channel to ask :)
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20. # [00:05] <sriram> oh oops.. thanks :)
21. # [00:05] <romaxa> glandium: ping
22. # [00:06] <glandium> romaxa: pong
23. # [00:06] <romaxa> glandium: I'm trying to build latest tip with http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/libraries/win32/MozillaBuildSetup-Latest.exe
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25. # [00:06] <rsilveira> sriram: you may find this interesting: http://www.oxymoronical.com/blog/2013/03/Hacking-on-Tilt
26. # [00:07] <romaxa> glandium: and it seems have some problems... do we have up-to-date package for windows which works with recent trunk?
27. # [00:07] <glandium> romaxa: that's a question for ted or khuey, not me
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29. # [00:07] <romaxa> ted: khuey: ^^
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33. # [00:08] <khuey> romaxa: what problems do you have?
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35. # [00:09] <romaxa> khuey: pymake or python fail to generate some idl, make files...
36. # [00:09] <khuey> romaxa: did you clobber?
37. # [00:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0afcbcafb72 - Brian Hackett - Bug 881333 - Fix break in GGC builds.
38. # [00:09] <romaxa> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2508525
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40. # [00:10] <sriram> oh thanks
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42. # [00:10] <khuey> yeah that's not useful
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44. # [00:10] <romaxa> khuey: yep I did, and on clean build I got error it was not able to find nsIContentSecurityPolicy.h...
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46. # [00:10] <romaxa> khuey: so I call pymake -C content....
47. # [00:10] <romaxa> khuey: after that got this
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50. # [00:11] <khuey> I need more context to have any idea what's wrong
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55. # [00:12] <romaxa> khuey: my .mozconfig http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2508526
56. # [00:12] <romaxa> khuey: build env I took from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/libraries/win32/MozillaBuildSetup-Latest.exe
57. # [00:12] <khuey> I need more terminal output .....
58. # [00:13] <romaxa> building 134537:9115d8b717e1
59. # [00:13] <romaxa> ah ok
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67. # [00:15] <romaxa> khuey: let me dump output into file until it fail and will send you more context.... win terminal is suc....
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76. # [00:17] <bjacob_> gw280: ping
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78. # [00:17] <bjacob_> and/or snorp
79. # [00:17] <qDot> Hmm. Apparently my keon needs the battery /in/ it to charge and run. Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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81. # [00:18] <khuey> well it seems kind of obvious that the battery would need to be in it to charge ...
82. # [00:18] <khuey> ... to run on the other hand ...
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85. # [00:18] <romaxa> khuey: btw how tinderbox builders setting up win build environment?
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88. # [00:19] <khuey> romaxa: they use some sort of weird environment created manually be releng
89. # [00:20] <khuey> *by releng
90. # [00:20] <khuey> romaxa: but developers use mozillabuild and this release has been out for a month with no complaints
91. # [00:20] <jwalden> ...some header defines a macro named "check"
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101. # [00:23] <glandium> qDot: a lot of phones are like that
102. # [00:23] <gw280> bjacob_: yo
103. # [00:23] <gw280> bjacob_: my internet is really flakey atm :(
104. # [00:23] <qDot> We've really got to get over the legacy support crap on our fxos phones.
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107. # [00:23] <bjacob_> gw280: -> gfx
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147. # [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a7469edb07e - Brian Nicholson - Bug 880599 - Remove GeckoProfile.get() from provider creation. r=gbrown
148. # [00:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0218a6cb1ed - Brian Nicholson - Bug 879505 - Use getCurrentActivity() in getActivityFromClick(). r=gbrown
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150. # [00:39] <NeilAway> bholley: pong, if you can wait for me to catch up with scrollback
151. # [00:40] <romaxa> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2508622
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153. # [00:40] <bholley> NeilAway: are you an appropriate reviewer for bug 870864?
154. # [00:40] <bholley> NeilAway: we really need to move forward on that bug
155. # [00:40] <bholley> NeilAway: it singlehandedly blocks single-threading XPConnect
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157. # [00:41] <NeilAway> bholley: well, see my comment 11
158. # [00:41] <@gavin> bholley: a mailnews bug shouldn't be blocking you from landing something on m-c
159. # [00:42] <bholley> gavin: hm
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161. # [00:42] <bholley> jdm: is that the only blocker?
162. # [00:42] <jdm> bholley: yes
163. # [00:43] <@dolske> man
164. # [00:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b69dc0eb786 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 881252 - Warn use of getUserData() or setUserData(). r=bz
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166. # [00:43] <@dolske> what gavin said. x1000.
167. # [00:43] <bholley> jdm: hm. So maybe we should just land it and NeilAway can land the fix he prefers?
168. # [00:43] <jdm> sure
169. # [00:43] <jdm> I can do that tonight
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171. # [00:43] <bholley> jdm: ok, awesome :-)
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174. # [00:45] <NeilAway> bholley: at least just disable the tests rather than rewriting core code to stop the bogus tests from failing?
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176. # [00:46] <bholley> NeilAway: if that is preferable, sure. jdm&
177. # [00:46] <bholley> ^
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179. # [00:46] <jdm> I can do that as well
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184. # [00:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ef0e47cddd4 - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 879477: Update PC to use mHandle instead of (void *) this in logging r=ekr
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187. # [00:50] <khuey> romaxa: hmm
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189. # [00:50] <khuey> romaxa: are you sure you clobbered?
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191. # [00:50] <khuey> romaxa: i.e. rm -rf objdir?
192. # [00:50] <khuey> not just make clobber?
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197. # [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/773df082bd35 - Dan Gohman - Bug 881366 - Simplify CheckOverrecursed sequences. r=sstangl
198. # [00:51] <romaxa> khuey: yep I did remove folder completely
199. # [00:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca991d0bb5ea - Dan Gohman - Bug 881397 - Minor dominator-tree computation cleanups. r=sstangl
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203. # [00:51] <khuey> romaxa: :-/
204. # [00:51] <khuey> romaxa: idk what to tell you
205. # [00:51] <khuey> romaxa: is this on m-c tip?
206. # [00:51] <khuey> or something close to it?
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208. # [00:53] <NeilAway> RealRaven: the answer is to not change the textbox contents when what you really want to do is to update the preference...
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240. # [01:03] <romaxa> khuey: latest tip plus my patch... let me check if my patch breaking things... (month ago it did not)
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250. # [01:06] <abr> jesup|laptop: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880067
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269. # [01:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6fac977ad9ea - Gregory Szorc - Bug 878089 - mach shouldn't fail if terminal couldn't be configured; r=ted
270. # [01:17] <romaxa> khuey: looks like it goes further without my patch... that is good, but not good that errors are not very informative
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298. # [01:25] <NeilAway> bah, no jdm or ehsan
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300. # [01:27] <erikvold> where should I file sidebar bugs?
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303. # [01:27] <lizzard> erikvold: for the sidebar history?
304. # [01:27] <erikvold> lizzard: more UI related stuff
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309. # [01:29] <lizzard> hmm. there are a lot of other sidebar related bugs in Firefox:General . But it might be a Core issue. I am not sure
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312. # [01:30] <lizzard> erikvold: there are also some sidebar UI bugs in Firefox:Menus
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314. # [01:31] <lizzard> and in Firefox:Toolbar. So, that's a lot of possible places! you might just try Firefox general.
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329. # [01:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92b758cba0f1 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 867226 - Don't crash if we can't create a valid framebuffer. r=bjacob
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338. # [01:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/841ffd181e14 - Luke Wagner - Bug 878433 - OdinMonkey: (signed % signed) should be intish, not int (r=bbouvier)
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381. # [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5eb3a09775c9 - Paul Adenot - Bug 879651 - Choose between integers or float based on the platform rather than the CPU architecture. r=blassey
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387. # [02:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cb2712f0237 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 815643 - Part 7: Add a basic API test for ConvolverNode; r=roc
388. # [02:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63386b71d1b5 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 815643 - Part 9: Port Blink's LayoutTest for ConvolverNode to mochitest-plain; r=roc
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400. # [02:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/172b542f51ba - Paul Adenot - Bug 879651 - Explain why we don't use float on mobile.
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405. # [02:15] <@ehsan> padenot: stop touching configure.in!!! :P
406. # [02:16] <padenot> ehsan: tell that to the poor people with x86 android devices that have no sound!
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409. # [02:16] <padenot> and to my jetlag that made me forgot to address the comments :/
410. # [02:16] <@ehsan> padenot: sound is overrated ;)
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412. # [02:17] <padenot> yeah right?
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415. # [02:17] <@ehsan> padenot: btw, with the convolver stuff in, it's time to work on HRTF panning
416. # [02:17] <padenot> cool
417. # [02:17] <@ehsan> padenot: are you up for stealing some code from blink? :)
418. # [02:17] <@ehsan> their HRTF code uses a bunch of stuff which I ported
419. # [02:17] <padenot> you can sign me up if you're ok to wait like one week
420. # [02:17] <@ehsan> that sounds good!
421. # [02:18] <@ehsan> padenot: fwiw this is my last official week on web audio :) so there will probably be fewer patches coming from me
422. # [02:18] <padenot> I'm at the webrtc work week atm, I'd like to focus on latency and the like
423. # [02:18] <@ehsan> padenot: I'd still be around for the spec issues, reviews, etc of course
424. # [02:18] <@ehsan> padenot: yeah absolutely
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426. # [02:18] <padenot> ehsan: I guess we can reach the finish line, now
427. # [02:19] <@ehsan> yes, I'm fairly confident now
428. # [02:19] <@ehsan> padenot: how's the latency work coming along btw?
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430. # [02:20] <padenot> slowly, but coming along
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433. # [02:20] <@ehsan> good
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435. # [02:20] <@ehsan> it's a pretty hard problem to solve fwiw :)
436. # [02:20] <padenot> I figured :-)
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476. # [02:49] <njn> anyone know about system_wrappers? khuey?
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479. # [02:51] <njn> I want to put a #ifndef wrapper in each one to avoid multiple-inclusion, but it's causing compile errors
480. # [02:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efdf2d801664 - David Zbarsky - Bug 881128 - Remove nsIDOMGetSVGDocument r=bz
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485. # [02:56] <khuey> njn: er, shouldn't the wrapped header already have that?
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488. # [02:57] <njn> khuey: you'd think so
489. # [02:57] <njn> khuey: I've counted with |gcc -H|, they account for a large majority of the #includes that occur when building SpiderMonkey
490. # [02:58] <njn> khuey: oh the *wrapped* header
491. # [02:58] <njn> khuey: well, here's the fun part
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494. # [02:58] <khuey> so what compile error do you get?
495. # [02:58] <njn> GCC and clang will avoid re-reading a header if it has a vanilla #ifndef wrapper
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497. # [02:58] <khuey> LOL
498. # [02:58] <njn> khuey: but several system headers on my file have a non-vanilla one
499. # [02:58] <khuey> nice optimization
500. # [02:59] <njn> khuey: several headers in spidermonkey likewise -- I'm fixing that
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507. # [03:00] <njn> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2508980 has stats on which files are #included the most when building SM
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509. # [03:00] <khuey> yeah I don't really care :-)
510. # [03:00] <khuey> I'm just interested in why it fails
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512. # [03:00] <njn> khuey: if the system_wrappers had a #ifndef guard, those multiple-thousand numbers would drop to a few hundred
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514. # [03:00] <jlebar> njn: I'm not convined it would result in significantly faster builds, but maybe.
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516. # [03:01] <njn> khuey: first error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2509001
517. # [03:01] <njn> jlebar: I want to measure
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521. # [03:02] <jlebar> njn: did you look at the header that's being generated?
522. # [03:02] <njn> jlebar: yes
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524. # [03:03] <njn> jlebar: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2509005 is an example
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526. # [03:03] <khuey> njn: try putting the ifndef below #pragma GCC system_header?
527. # [03:03] <khuey> but above the visibility push
528. # [03:03] <njn> khuey: that'll break the single-inclusion optimizaqtion
529. # [03:03] <khuey> I know
530. # [03:03] <njn> ok
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533. # [03:04] <njn> man, having to build ICU for the JS shell sucks
534. # [03:04] * khuey blames norbert
535. # [03:04] <jlebar> njn: it seems to compile just fine for me... I'm doing a normal build, not a shell build, though.
536. # [03:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a220903e2dee - Chris Pearce - Bug 880006 - Make WMF video backend call MediaDecoder::NotifyBytesConsumed() like it's supposed to. r=padenot
537. # [03:04] <jlebar> I can try a shell build.
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543. # [03:05] <njn> khuey: no difference -- fails in the same way
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545. # [03:06] <khuey> ok
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547. # [03:06] <njn> khuey: I tried |#pragma once| instead the other day, I think it still failed, but in a different way :/
548. # [03:06] <khuey> njn: and we actually are substituting the ${guard} bit?
549. # [03:06] <njn> khuey: oh, wait
550. # [03:07] <njn> i have a '/' in my guard identifier
551. # [03:07] <njn> let me fix that
552. # [03:07] <jlebar> njn: wfm on mac...
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554. # [03:09] <njn> khuey: hmm, that fixes the previous error, but now I get a different one
555. # [03:09] <njn> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2509049
556. # [03:09] <njn> I think that's the one I saw when I tried #pragma once
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560. # [03:10] <njn> hmm, we don't have cwchar in our system_headers_js list..
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562. # [03:12] <njn> adding doesn't seem to help
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570. # [03:17] <njn> jlebar: WFM on mac too
571. # [03:17] <jlebar> njn: this whole thing might not be used on mac; dunno
572. # [03:17] <njn> jlebar: I think I just need to add some linux-specific headers to the system wrapper list
573. # [03:17] <njn> jlebar: well, I can do measurements on mac and see if it helps compile time
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575. # [03:18] <njn> jlebar: oh, it appears to not be used on Mac
576. # [03:18] <njn> jlebar: which is surprising, given that the headers list includes ones like Cocoa/Cocoa.h
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588. # [03:27] <jlebar> njn: is it possible that you're clobbering existing #ifdef guards?
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592. # [03:31] <njn> jlebar: seems unlikely -- an example is |system_wrappers_stdlib_h__|
593. # [03:31] <jlebar> hm
594. # [03:31] <jlebar> yeah
595. # [03:31] <njn> jlebar: I could try something more outlandish
596. # [03:31] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: Great news! This is what the spec says: "The first AudioMediaStreamTrack from the MediaStream will be used as a source of audio." So, all of the complexity needed to take care of multiple tracks can go away!!! :-)
597. # [03:31] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: (a short piece of my review comments!)
598. # [03:31] <secretrobotron> HOORAY!
599. # [03:31] <secretrobotron> no mixing!
600. # [03:32] <secretrobotron> ehsan: smart to dismiss it as though it will never be a problem?
601. # [03:32] <secretrobotron> for simplicity's sake, i suppose
602. # [03:32] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: we can modify the spec when we come to cross this bridge
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604. # [03:32] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: but for now, I think it makes sense to do what the spec says, because I actually don't think this is going to be a problem in practice
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606. # [03:33] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: also, please let me know where the rest of my comments don't make sense. I did this review over the course of 4-5 hours :)
607. # [03:33] <secretrobotron> no problem :D
608. # [03:33] <secretrobotron> thanks for the effort!
609. # [03:33] <@ehsan> vladan: you're too honest!
610. # [03:33] <jlebar> khuey: I'm going to hit you with a big, pretty mechanical review. Sorry.
611. # [03:34] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: you kidding? thank _you_ for your efforts!
612. # [03:34] <vladan> ehsan: go on..
613. # [03:34] <vladan> ehsan: you mean cause i asked for review + waited for try results?
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616. # [03:35] <@ehsan> vladan: yes, and now you'll pay for your honesty :P
617. # [03:35] <@ehsan> vladan: r=me with nits ;)
618. # [03:35] <vladan> lol thx
619. # [03:35] <khuey> jlebar: :-P
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623. # [03:36] <JosiahOne> Hmm. So I need to test my patch that fixes in intermittent failure. What's the best way to check for a fail? I'm obviously not going to create 15 separate try runs.
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625. # [03:37] <jlebar> JosiahOne: You can push to try once, and then once the test starts, you can go onto tpbl, click the test, and click the blue +
626. # [03:37] <jlebar> to trigger more runs
627. # [03:38] <JosiahOne> jlebar: A blue plus?
628. # [03:38] <jlebar> Yes, a blue plus sign
629. # [03:38] <jlebar> on tbpl
630. # [03:38] <jlebar> in the bottom right
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632. # [03:38] <JosiahOne> I'm seeing no such thing.
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635. # [03:38] <jlebar> JosiahOne: Did you click on the test?
636. # [03:39] <jlebar> the dark gray "2" or whatever
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638. # [03:39] <JosiahOne> jlebar: Oh I see. :)
639. # [03:39] <JosiahOne> jlebar: Thanks.
640. # [03:39] <jlebar> JosiahOne: np
641. # [03:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b6805a18ea30 - Vladan Djeric - Bug 881578 - Add JSM to hardcoded extensions/mime type list. r=ehsan
642. # [03:40] <JosiahOne> What the.
643. # [03:40] <@ehsan> vladan: \o/
644. # [03:40] <JosiahOne> It won't accept my username+password.
645. # [03:40] <@ehsan> JosiahOne: are you using the correct ldap auth pair?
646. # [03:40] <@ehsan> JosiahOne: try on ldap.mozilla.org
647. # [03:41] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Won't accept it there either.
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649. # [03:42] <@ehsan> JosiahOne: are you sure your password is correct?
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651. # [03:42] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Positive. I have to type it in when I push to try.
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654. # [03:42] <JosiahOne> ehsan: And I tried my other password just to be sure.
655. # [03:42] <jlebar> JosiahOne: Are you sure it's the right username?
656. # [03:42] <jlebar> JosiahOne: You likely don't have to type that when you push to try.
657. # [03:43] <@ehsan> JosiahOne: that is the password for your ssh private key most likely
658. # [03:43] <JosiahOne> jlebar: Should just be my email.
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660. # [03:43] <JosiahOne> ehsan: What is? The one I type into the Terminal?
661. # [03:44] <@ehsan> yes
662. # [03:44] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Oh, so this Mozilla one is not the same?
663. # [03:44] * JosiahOne Can't believe this never affected him until now.
664. # [03:44] <@ehsan> no
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666. # [03:45] <@ehsan> JosiahOne: ldap passwords are not used for a lot of things
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668. # [03:45] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Hmm. I have no idea what that password would be then. I use the same few passwords for everything. Let me try a few.
669. # [03:46] <@ehsan> JosiahOne: file an IT bug if you need it reset...
670. # [03:46] <@ehsan> or ping someone in #it
671. # [03:46] <JosiahOne> ehsan: Alright. Thanks.
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673. # [03:46] <@ehsan> np
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676. # [03:47] <khuey> ehsan: unless you're an employee
677. # [03:47] <khuey> then they're used for all sorts of things
678. # [03:48] <khuey> and you get to change them every 90 days
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680. # [03:48] <@ehsan> khuey: true :(
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709. # [04:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14d35bcbc52f - David Rajchenbach-Teller - Bug 845190 - Re-enable test_logging.js and test_645970.js on all platforms. r=yoric
710. # [04:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2ac3d6c628a - Arnaud Sourioux - Bug 878861 - Preseve 80 cols output with mach's timestamp. r=gps
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725. # [04:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8395ce584ddc - Edwin Flores - Bug 876305 - Pass the media mimetype on to the gstreamer backend r=alessandro.d
726. # [04:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63e57ae2f15c - Edwin Flores - Bug 879995 - Fix assertion failure in gstreamer backend with fragmented mp4 videos r=alessandro.d
727. # [04:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7881391b201f - Edwin Flores - Bug 859199 - Load GStreamer libraries at runtime r=doublec
728. # [04:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de789c0f4b9a - Edwin Flores - Bug 874305 - Support older versions of gstreamer r=alessandro.d
729. # [04:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/928d5b1c632f - Edwin Flores - Bug 878363 - Silence pragma warnings from gstreamer libraries r=ted
730. # [04:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b59b25f6464 - Edwin Flores - Bug 876305 - Cap the max number of audio buffers gstreamer can use r=alessandro.d
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738. # [04:20] <cpearce> do we get actual crash dumps for windows crash reports? i.e. do we get a minidump we can load in visual studio?
739. # [04:21] <jdm> cpearce: yes, if you have the right socorro permission bits
740. # [04:21] <cpearce> jdm: excellent... who do I talk to?
741. # [04:22] <jdm> cpearce: laura or bsmedberg or somebody
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744. # [04:24] <philor> dzbarsky: DANGER, are you sure you want to not be around while you fail a test that puts DANGER in the failure message?
745. # [04:24] <khuey> cpearce: I can download one and email it to you if you give me the crashreport link
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748. # [04:25] <cpearce> khuey: great! https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/f3015003-2d46-4d4a-8fe4-b81072130608 thanks!
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751. # [04:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81b227f1a522 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out efdf2d801664 (bug 881128) for disregarding the DANGER of not dealing with test_interfaces.html
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753. # [04:28] <khuey> cpearce: sent
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755. # [04:28] <cpearce> khuey: got it, thanks!
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838. # [05:52] <jlebar|afk> khuey|away: yeah, sorry.
839. # [05:52] <jlebar|afk> khuey|away: but it's not a complex review.
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901. # [06:38] <@dolske> aroo? is mxr busted?
902. # [06:38] <@dolske> https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/marionette/components/marionettecomponent.js differs significantly from what's in my tree.
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907. # [06:40] <@dolske> 4 changeset to that file have landed since what mxr claims to know about. :/
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980. # [07:40] <Optimizer> nightly is damn crashy. hangy and slow recently
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982. # [07:40] <Optimizer> 4 times slow startup time, crashes on exit everytime and hangs every other minute
983. # [07:40] <Optimizer> :(
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1020. # [08:08] <markh> is there a way to run xpcshelltests verbosely? ie, so all dump() etc statements are seen even if the test passes?
1021. # [08:08] <markh> other than hacking runxpcshelltests.py...
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1025. # [08:09] <Unfocused> markh: by running them one by one count? :)
1026. # [08:09] <Unfocused> er, does running*
1027. # [08:10] <markh> Unfocused: yeah, that would be OK - but if I tell mach to run just one of them I still don't see that output...
1028. # [08:10] <Unfocused> oh
1029. # [08:11] <markh> hmmm
1030. # [08:11] <markh> I may be lieing about that
1031. # [08:12] <markh> apparently I am - thanks :)
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1033. # [08:12] <Unfocused> heh, yea, just tested myself
1034. # [08:12] <Unfocused> :)
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1091. # [09:06] <gaston> anyone knows if there had been a bug report for systemwide langpacks not showing anymore in add-ons window since ffx 21 ?
1092. # [09:06] <gaston> i see 700615 but it's waaay older
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1162. # [10:21] <MaxP> hi, is there someone who is familiar with SoundTouch library ?
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1180. # [10:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/407dd32db3b0 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 881410 - Remove some TI code we no longer need without JM. r=bhackett
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1346. # [13:53] <Yoric> RyanVM: ping
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1351. # [13:57] <RyanVM> Yoric: pong
1352. # [13:57] <froydnj> rail_away: decoder: I was going to backport the patch yesterday, but ran into issues. will tackle it today
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1354. # [13:58] <Yoric> RyanVM: As you mention, looks like bug 845190 is not fixed.
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1356. # [13:58] <Yoric> RyanVM: Although there's one thing that's not clear to me.
1357. # [13:58] <RyanVM> yes, how do you want to proceed?
1358. # [13:58] <Yoric> Even with the tests disabled, we had some reports of the orange, didn't we?
1359. # [13:59] <RyanVM> on comm-central
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1362. # [13:59] <RyanVM> I'm wondering if the disabling didn't work there for some reason
1363. # [13:59] <RyanVM> i noticed that too, though :(
1364. # [14:00] <Yoric> Mozilla-Central, UX, Aurora...
1365. # [14:00] <Yoric> Birch...
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1367. # [14:01] <RyanVM> Yoric: well wait, test_logging was only disabled on win debug
1368. # [14:01] <Yoric> So, my first reflex would be to just revert these two patches.
1369. # [14:01] <Yoric> Ah.
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1371. # [14:01] <Yoric> I thought it was also disabled on Linux debug.
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1373. # [14:01] <Yoric> Well, anyway, looks like my fix isn't sufficient.
1374. # [14:01] <RyanVM> skip-if = os == "win" && debug
1375. # [14:01] <RyanVM> the failures were all linux debug
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1377. # [14:02] <RyanVM> test_645970.js was disabled on linux debug
1378. # [14:02] <Yoric> Ah, one was disabled on Linux, the other on Win.
1379. # [14:02] <Yoric> Why not.
1380. # [14:02] <RyanVM> :)
1381. # [14:02] <Yoric> So, let's revert the patch.
1382. # [14:02] <Yoric> How do you prefer we do this?
1383. # [14:02] <Yoric> s/patch/patches/
1384. # [14:02] <RyanVM> I can just backout both on inbound and let it merge around from there
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1386. # [14:03] <Yoric> That sounds good.
1387. # [14:03] <Yoric> Thank you very much.
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1395. # [14:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ac9367a6c23 - Markus Stange - Bug 878705 - Don't scroll when clicking inside the scrollbar track next to the scrollbar thumb. r=roc
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1398. # [14:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8945a734ab7 - KO Myung-Hun - Bug 768742 - Support multiple clauses of OS/2 IME. r=masayuki
1399. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8dc1b737045 - Adrian Tamas - Bug 879767 - Intermittent testMasterPassword | GeckoEventExpecter - blockForEvent timeout: DOMContentLoaded. r=jmaher
1400. # [14:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8fe099852dc4 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 845190 - Revert previous attempt to fix and re-disable tests.
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1402. # [14:15] <Yoric> RyanVM: thanks.
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1404. # [14:15] <RyanVM> np
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1417. # [14:26] <steve> hi guys - got a problem setting MOZ_OBJDIR on linux. have built without setting it but would like things set up properly.
1418. # [14:27] <Yoric> What's the problem?
1419. # [14:27] <steve> have set k_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=/home/steve/build/moz_d
1420. # [14:27] <steve> in my .mozconfig
1421. # [14:27] <steve> get the following error :
1422. # [14:27] <steve> cp: cannot create regular file ‘/home/steve/build/moz_d\r/.mozconfig’: No such file or directory
1423. # [14:28] <steve> tried make & mach. does the same thing. anyone know what's going on ?
1424. # [14:28] <steve> * mk_add_options
1425. # [14:28] <steve> ff 21 release source
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1428. # [14:30] <fossterer> \r stands for carriage return?
1429. # [14:30] <mjh563> steve: could it be a line-ending issue (it looks like a \r has been added onto the end of the path)?
1430. # [14:30] <mjh563> Check your .mozconfig is saved with linux-style line endings
1431. # [14:30] <steve> ok ... so I used gedit to set that up ... what can I do ... put the path in quotes
1432. # [14:31] <steve> ?
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1434. # [14:32] <steve> weird. even with mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR="/home/steve/build/moz_d"
1435. # [14:32] <steve> it does it
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1437. # [14:34] <mikeratcliffe> Okay, an appcache question. The spec says that that the only use of an asterisk is a single line containing only the * character in the NETWORK section. At one point Firefox implemented http://* and https://* instead ... does anybody know if this is still the case?
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1443. # [14:36] <rail> froydnj: great
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1445. # [14:37] <steve> well, as it's not obvious, will let it build in the default location for now, otherwise I'll end up in makefile hell.
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1447. # [14:41] <mjh563> If you re-test an old bug and find that it now works, what should you resolve it as?
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1449. # [14:41] <mjh563> Is it FIXED or WORKSFORME (I've seen both used)?
1450. # [14:42] <edmorley> mjh563: FIXED is typically only used when the cause of it being fixed is known
1451. # [14:42] <edmorley> "not sure why but this now works" -> WORKSFORME
1452. # [14:42] <edmorley> :-)
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1484. # [15:05] <decoder> froydnj: thanks. if you need help, kcc might be able to help out too
1485. # [15:05] <decoder> from the asan devs
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1504. # [15:15] <gaston> hmmm say i have some patches applied in MQ and something mistakenly removed files from my src dir
1505. # [15:15] <gaston> what hg-fu is needed to reset the repo & put back the missing files, without fiddling with the MQ ?
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1508. # [15:17] <mcsmurf> do you have any pending changes not saved in MQ?
1509. # [15:17] <gaston> nope
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1511. # [15:17] <gaston> (otherwise i could still qref path/to/change them)
1512. # [15:17] <gaston> but i always wonder which one in reset/revert/checkout/unfuck is to be used
1513. # [15:18] <mcsmurf> I would use "hg qpop -a; hg update -C"
1514. # [15:18] <mcsmurf> it will first qpop all patches and then throw away all local changes
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1516. # [15:19] <JosiahOne> edmorley: Ping.
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1518. # [15:19] <edmorley> JosiahOne: hi
1519. # [15:19] <gaston> yeah but last i tried doing that iirc it didnt want to qpop as the missing files were considered as local changes not yet tracked
1520. # [15:19] <mcsmurf> oh of course!
1521. # [15:19] <gaston> $hg qpop -a
1522. # [15:19] <gaston> abort: local changes found, refresh first
1523. # [15:19] <gaston> see :)
1524. # [15:20] <mcsmurf> hg qpop -f
1525. # [15:20] <edmorley> gaston: hg up -C
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1528. # [15:20] <mcsmurf> does hg up -C work with applied patches?
1529. # [15:20] <JosiahOne> edmorley: Hey. So bug 873727, concerning my try run. How many times should I run that mochitest? Right now I've done it 8 times per system.
1530. # [15:20] <edmorley> I thought it did, let me check
1531. # [15:20] <gaston> i dont think so
1532. # [15:21] <gaston> hmmm seems it doesnt complain (yet)
1533. # [15:21] <gaston> at least it does something
1534. # [15:21] <gaston> oh right that did the trick
1535. # [15:21] <gaston> i really didnt think hg up could work with mq patches applied
1536. # [15:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/47ee3835df83 - Paul Adenot - Bug 879651 - Choose between integers or float based on the platform rather than the CPU architecture. r=blassey, a=akeybl
1537. # [15:21] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
1538. # [15:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/09b627ea659b - Christian Ascheberg - Bug 863063 - Quitting private browsing mode does not delete partially downloaded files. r=mak, a=akeybl
1539. # [15:22] <edmorley> gaston: yeah hg up -C works
1540. # [15:22] <mcsmurf> gaston: I also thought that, heh
1541. # [15:22] <gaston> good to know for the next clone fuckup
1542. # [15:22] <mcsmurf> maybe that changed
1543. # [15:23] <edmorley> gaston: mq patches are technically real commits, mq just pretends they are not (which can get you into real trouble if you try and hg update to things that aren't the current changeset or other funky stuff, but in the case of hg up -C you're not moving to another rev, so it's fine)
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1545. # [15:24] <edmorley> gaston: iiuc hg up -C is effectively the same as hg revert -a
1546. # [15:24] <gaston> whohoo my 15-patches mq still applies on top of m-i
1547. # [15:27] <pnkfelix> is there a nspr api for compare-and-swap ?
1548. # [15:29] <pnkfelix> (I do see PR_AtomicSet, which might actually suffice for my current needs, but now I'm just curious in general.)
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1555. # [15:31] <pnkfelix> Ah, apparently previous requests for CAS were… well, "shot down" is too strong a term (Bugzilla 498951)
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1565. # [15:40] <Yoric> yzen1: pong
1566. # [15:40] <Yoric> yzen1: ping, I mean.
1567. # [15:41] <hdel> Hi, we have been working on bug 847827 since yesterday. Is there anybody familiar with lib SoundTouch used in Firefox ?
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1574. # [15:42] <hdel> since firebot isn't responding : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847827
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1576. # [15:44] <edmorley> in what instances is it necessary to manually delete .pyc files? I would have thought rarely (eg file move/rename for module being imported; or python version upgrade etc)
1577. # [15:44] * gregglind_away is now known as gregglind
1578. # [15:44] <edmorley> (context: cleaning up ununecessary steps in a push to production script for TBPL)
1579. # [15:44] <edmorley> task after that, learning how to type
1580. # [15:45] <edmorley> JosiahOne: sorry missed your question - looking
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1582. # [15:46] <JosiahOne> edmorley: Never mind.
1583. # [15:46] <JosiahOne> edmorley: Test just failed. :(
1584. # [15:46] <edmorley> JosiahOne: ah :-( (my answer was going to be quite a few times)
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1587. # [15:48] <@ehsan> armenzg: ping
1588. # [15:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1ebe92839fa - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 785929 - Kill FrameMetrics.mContentRect. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
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1591. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57c8642772b5 - Yura Zenevich - Bug 881483 - Remove noOptions constant in favor of an object literal. r=yoric
1592. # [15:53] <armenzg> ehsan: pong
1593. # [15:53] <@ehsan> armenzg: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2511219
1594. # [15:53] <@ehsan> armenzg: what does this mean?
1595. # [15:53] <@ehsan> armenzg: note that I'm connected to the build vpn
1596. # [15:54] <armenzg> let me see
1597. # [15:54] <armenzg> ehsan: are you at the office?
1598. # [15:54] <@ehsan> yes
1599. # [15:55] <yzen1> Yoric: pong
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1604. # [15:56] <Yoric> yzen: Hi.
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1606. # [15:56] <yzen> Yoric: hey :)
1607. # [15:57] <Yoric> Regarding bug 865389, I haven't managed to extract enough info from my cursory exploration of the Darwin/Xnu kernel, so I'm falling back to plan B.
1608. # [15:57] <Yoric> "B" as in "Benchmarking"
1609. # [15:57] <Yoric> So, right now, we're not sure whether we should do F_RDADVISE, F_RDAHEAD or nothing.
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1611. # [15:58] <Yoric> So let me suggest the following: In one program, create a gazillion (~1000) large files (~100 Mb).
1612. # [15:58] <steve> hi guys: just an fyi - had a problem with my .mozconfig file on linux a few minutes ago. recreated from scratch using xedit so it's probably an encoding issue as was originally using a file based on my windoze config file. thanks for the assisatance.
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1614. # [15:58] <steve> working fine now :)
1615. # [15:58] <Yoric> Step 2: Find a way to empty the disk cache. (Playing a video game should do nicely :) )
1616. # [15:59] <Yoric> Step 3: Measure the speed of reading all these files without flag.
1617. # [15:59] <Yoric> (then do the same with F_RDADVISE, and with F_RDAHEAD)
1618. # [15:59] <yzen> Yoric: any specific amount of time I should play ?
1619. # [15:59] <yzen> :)
1620. # [15:59] <Yoric> :)
1621. # [15:59] <Yoric> There may be a fcntl that would empty the cache at once, of course.
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1623. # [16:00] <yzen> Yoric: all right ill spend some time on it, sounds like fun
1624. # [16:00] <yzen> all i need is to find a spare 100gb on my hard drive
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1626. # [16:01] <Yoric> yzen: Maybe F_NOCACHE 0 followed by F_NOCACHE 1.
1627. # [16:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/436c88ed1e5e - Hannes Verschore - Bug 879168 - IonMonkey: Improve the typeset of |this| when inlining a constructing call, r=bhackett
1628. # [16:02] <yzen> Yoric: sounds good
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1647. # [16:10] <sankha93> yzen: so you will be benchmarking the time taken after the corresponding changes?
1648. # [16:10] <RyanVM> sweet, just crashed trying to load mapsgl
1649. # [16:11] <yzen> sankha93: that's the plan yes
1650. # [16:12] <sankha93> cool!
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1652. # [16:13] <Yoric> yzen: Suggestion from avih – in C, keep calling malloc() until it returns |null|. This will force the system to release all non-essential memory, including disk caches.
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1654. # [16:13] <Yoric> Then launch your benchmark.
1655. # [16:14] <Yoric> You can script that with one executable that exhausts memory and another one with the actual file read benchmark.
1656. # [16:14] <avih> yzen: note that on 32bit OS you could be limited to 2g/process. so you might need to launch few of those in parallel before releasing all the memory
1657. # [16:15] <yzen> Yoric: sounds good, avih thanks, im on 64
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1659. # [16:16] <avih> yzen: just make sure your ram is exhausted before you release it and start the test. hope it works
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1666. # [16:20] <yzen> avih: thanks!
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1682. # [16:34] <froydnj> decoder: ping
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1685. # [16:35] <decoder> froydnj: pong
1686. # [16:36] <froydnj> decoder: do you know anything about running the asan tests?
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1689. # [16:37] <froydnj> hm, maybe I have to build with cmake instead? how awful
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1691. # [16:37] <decoder> i think cmake is right, yes
1692. # [16:37] <decoder> cmake build is more comfortable anyway
1693. # [16:37] <decoder> the only downside of it is that you need a quite recent cmake
1694. # [16:38] <froydnj> "more comfortable"?
1695. # [16:38] <decoder> i think 2.8 or higher
1696. # [16:38] <@bsmedberg> how does inbound look?
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1698. # [16:38] <decoder> froydnj: yea i find the build a little easier
1699. # [16:38] * decoder brb
1700. # [16:38] <froydnj> sigh, if you can't build the whole tree with all of your build systems, then you have a problem
1701. # [16:38] <froydnj> who puts up with this sort of stuff?
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1703. # [16:40] <edmorley> bsmedberg: fine at the moment :-)
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1705. # [16:41] <Gijs> gps: is "./mach help run" being broken a known bug?
1706. # [16:42] * froydnj gets stabbed in the face by cmake's angry fruit salad build output
1707. # [16:42] <decoder> froydnj: you mean cmake isnt able to build something in the llvm tree
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1709. # [16:42] <decoder> ?
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1711. # [16:42] <froydnj> decoder: no, I mean building with 'configure && make' apparently doesn't build everything
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1713. # [16:42] <decoder> yea :(
1714. # [16:43] <decoder> i dont know why they did that
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1716. # [16:44] <decoder> froydnj: http://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/wiki/HowToBuild#Building_with_CMake_%28LLVM_3.2_or_later%29
1717. # [16:44] <decoder> in case you havent found that yet =)
1718. # [16:44] <decoder> describes how to run the asan tests with cmake
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1720. # [16:45] <froydnj> decoder: thanks
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1723. # [16:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22b38f0b8084 - Felix S. Klock II - Bug 881223: Issue warnings on GC bailouts. r=nmatsakis
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1729. # [16:50] <Leonard> jaws: ping
1730. # [16:50] <jaws> Leonard: pong
1731. # [16:51] <Leonard> hi
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1733. # [16:51] <Leonard> working with padenot on a pref
1734. # [16:51] <Leonard> and problem to read its value in an xms file
1735. # [16:51] <Leonard> but used exactly the same code than in other xms files
1736. # [16:52] <Leonard> can u see my patch? (very little)
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1755. # [17:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/554597fd45e9 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 868437 - Add a linked list of activations to JSRuntime and rewrite ScriptFrameIter to use it. r=luke
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1757. # [17:02] <firebot> Check-in:
1758. # [17:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea3191239e8e - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 880675 - Remove the writable nsIPluginTag.blocklisted property, which is a poorly-constructed cache of the blocklist data, r=jschoenick r=unfocused
1759. # [17:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97f46bb7b72b - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 881270 - Remove the MIME type fallback tests in test_bug391728 because they are testing the incorrect behavior and only happen to work because the test plugin
1760. # [17:03] <firebot> remained blocklisted from a prior test. r=johns
1761. # [17:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ef49706a56a - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 875454 - Rework handling of per-site plugin permissions in objectloadingcontent such that users can disable or enable plugins per-site no matter what their
1762. # [17:03] <gps> Gijs: there is a bug on it
1763. # [17:03] <firebot> "global" permission is (currently only plugins marked click-to-activate globally honor per-site overrides). Also change the pageInfo UI such that "use default" is separate from the explicit click-to-play setting. r=jschoenick/jaws
1764. # [17:03] <Gijs> gps: OK, cool! :)
1765. # [17:03] <SDUP> is there a string pattern matching function in xpcom/c++ ?
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1767. # [17:03] <jaws> Leonard: sorry, i got distracted
1768. # [17:03] <Leonard> np
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1770. # [17:03] <jaws> Leonard: what is the bug number?
1771. # [17:04] <Leonard> i tried to use the pref api
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1773. # [17:04] <Leonard> 654550
1774. # [17:04] <khuey> SDUP: what kind of pattern?
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1776. # [17:04] <khuey> SDUP: just a substring search?
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1778. # [17:04] <Leonard> but patch not attached
1779. # [17:04] <Leonard> mail?
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1781. # [17:04] <SDUP> only with '*' wilcard and alphanum nsAString
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1783. # [17:05] <jaws> Leonard: it would be better to just attach the patch and flag me for feedback
1784. # [17:05] <khuey> I don't think we ave anything that does wildcards
1785. # [17:05] <khuey> *we have
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1787. # [17:06] <Leonard> jaws: ok, ping u when im done
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1791. # [17:07] <khuey> does anyone want the honor of backing out some of my patches?
1792. # [17:08] <edmorley> khuey: yup
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1795. # [17:08] <khuey> edmorley: we should back out 877584 from m-c
1796. # [17:08] <khuey> edmorley: and then probably respin the nightly
1797. # [17:08] <khuey> edmorley: do you mind doing that?
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1801. # [17:09] <edmorley> khuey: sure, np :-)
1802. # [17:09] <khuey> thanks
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1804. # [17:09] <edmorley> yw
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1809. # [17:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/200344975d6f - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 94fb66d82988 (bug 877584)
1810. # [17:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/86413e921d5d - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 2864e2610800 (bug 877584) for causing bug 881266
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1817. # [17:14] <edmorley> khuey: done
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1826. # [17:17] <khuey> edmorley: our users thank you
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1839. # [17:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/593e06824257 - Bobby Holley - Bug 770840 - Remove XPConnect test that explicitly runs JS on a seperate thread. v1
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1845. # [17:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86413e921d5d - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 2864e2610800 (bug 877584) for causing bug 881266
1846. # [17:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9aa012a41d0d - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and inbound
1847. # [17:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/200344975d6f - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 94fb66d82988 (bug 877584)
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1862. # [17:33] <Leonard> jaws, padenot: patch attached
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1869. # [17:36] <jaws> cool, thanks
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1874. # [17:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4473d563e0f - Jeff Walden - Bug 798179 - Implement mozilla::MakeSigned. r=froydnj
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1876. # [17:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9c7d27d4b43 - Jeff Walden - Rename a method from 'check' to 'checkBounds' to avoid colliding with a 'check' macro in an OS X system header. (No, really.) Noticed while tryservering patches for bug
1877. # [17:39] <firebot> 798179, r=rage
1878. # [17:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57c346bd9ec3 - Jeff Walden - Bug 798179 - Implement To BitwiseCast<To>(From), abstracting the treatment of a value's bits as being of another type. r=froydnj
1879. # [17:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/094d54c0c9ea - Jeff Walden - Bug 798179 - Implement mozilla::MakeUnsigned. r=froydnj
1880. # [17:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9404c1d1df0c - Jeff Walden - Bug 880591 - Keep length metadata correct for frozen arrays. r=bhackett
1881. # [17:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98586d2cb452 - Jeff Walden - Bug 798179 - Rewrite ToIntWidth to more simply act upon the actual bits of the IEEE-754 representation. r=froydnj
1882. # [17:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f3ab64fea60 - Jeff Walden - Bug 880920 - Simplify some absolute-value-computing code in lexicographic sorts of numeric arrays. r=luke
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1893. # [17:44] <froydnj> jwalden: are you updating the other DoublePun instances in the JS engine or am I?
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1899. # [17:46] <jwalden> froydnj: I might take a look at the ARM assembler one, but I think the rest might be you -- lemme finish up commenting in the bug post-push
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1904. # [17:48] <bjacob_> jwalden: ping, have you considered adding generic virtual (non template) versions of RefCounted / RefPtr to MFBT? We have a definite need for it in gfx/2d/
1905. # [17:49] <bjacob_> jwalden: i'm ok to make the patch, if you agree to have that in MFBT
1906. # [17:49] <jwalden> hm
1907. # [17:50] <jwalden> bjacob_: what's this give you that nsISupports doesn't, exactly? not that I much like XPCOM, to be sure, but at least worth asking
1908. # [17:50] <bjacob_> jwalden: gfx/2d/ doesn't want to have a dependency on nsISupports, it wants to have minimal mozilla dependencies so it can use mfbt but not xpcom
1909. # [17:51] <@bsmedberg> jwalden: bustage?
1910. # [17:51] <jwalden> fair enough
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1912. # [17:51] <jwalden> bsmedberg: uh
1913. # [17:51] <jwalden> wat
1914. # [17:51] <jwalden> these patches were tried!
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1917. # [17:52] <jwalden> luuuuuuuuukkkkeeeeeee!!!!
1918. # [17:52] <jwalden> fixing in a second
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1922. # [17:54] <@bsmedberg> we really have a source filed called PerfSpewer.cpp ?
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1930. # [17:58] <luke> jwalden: wat wat?
1931. # [17:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5dc87c816975 - Jeff Walden - Bug 798179 - Bustage fix in a CLOSED TREE for another bug's patch that landed after the try run here. r=aargh
1932. # [17:58] <jwalden> luke: your DoublePun use, when my patches that just landed removed the struct
1933. # [17:59] <jwalden> should be good to reopen now
1934. # [17:59] <gaston> r=aargh gotta love that
1935. # [17:59] <jwalden> also nicely timed, whoever, I was all set to push my non-CLOSED TREE revision and lost the close-race
1936. # [17:59] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
1937. # [17:59] * jwalden gives Ms2ger the evil eye as well
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1939. # [18:00] <froydnj> need a plugin to yell at people using ::detail:: things in non-header files
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1943. # [18:00] <jwalden> it's true
1944. # [18:00] <romaxa> khuey|away: ted: have you seen any problems with pymake build speed on win? it does not use much CPU building is super long especially when it go through security\nss folders...
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1946. # [18:00] <Ms2ger> Hi jwalden
1947. # [18:01] <froydnj> romaxa: nss does not build in parallel
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1951. # [18:02] <romaxa> froydnj: ough, ok
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1961. # [18:07] <rillian> do we not run talos xperf on m-c?
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1965. # [18:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81dd6f59a133 - Monica Chew - Bug 880947 - Make CreateTransfer re-entrant, remove InitializeDownload. r=paolo
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1969. # [18:09] <rillian> we do not. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812729#c253
1970. # [18:09] <philor> rillian: &showall=1, though all you'll see is failure to run
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1972. # [18:10] <philor> rillian: no, bug 879879
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1976. # [18:12] <NeilAway> jdm: yeah, we could really do with a better opt-in API rather than the current windowtype hack :s
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1979. # [18:12] <rillian> philor: excellent. that's what I was trying to determine.
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1981. # [18:12] <NeilAway> jdm: preferably one that you're unlikely to accidentally break
1982. # [18:13] <jdm> NeilAway: well, changing the windowtype for private windows seems like a weird choice to me
1983. # [18:13] <jmaher> rillian: it appears to be the new ix machines are not setup properly to run xperf, I am working on that right now
1984. # [18:13] <jdm> they don't stop being the kind of windows they are, they're just also private
1985. # [18:13] <firebot> Check-in:
1986. # [18:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82add815a173 - Dan Gohman - Bug 881409 - Pull the parts of AssertGraphCoherency that can be checked before SplitCriticalEdges out into a separate function and call it before SplitCriticalEdges.
1987. # [18:13] <firebot> r=jandem
1988. # [18:14] <NeilAway> jdm: easiest way to stop them appearing in window mediator
1989. # [18:15] <jdm> NeilAway: firefox went for more explicit APIs for things like that instead.
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1991. # [18:15] <jdm> getMostRecentWindow({private: false})
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2013. # [18:25] <akeybl> Ms2ger: would be great to get a quick review on bug 880042 :)
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2017. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> akeybl, how quick?
2018. # [18:26] <akeybl> Ms2ger: hours
2019. # [18:26] <Ms2ger> Okay
2020. # [18:26] <akeybl> thanks!
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2022. # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/838ec139ac83 - Mike Habicher - Bug 879478 - fix regressions when starting camera (crash and de-virtualized functions -- see also bug 880780), r=roc
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2026. # [18:28] <@smaug> nemo: perhaps worth to file a new (layout) bug about the table creation slowness
2027. # [18:29] <@smaug> make it block the original bug
2028. # [18:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c65aca152d6 - Richard Newman - Bug 881763 - Append /mobile/ to about:healthreport URL. r=trivial
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2032. # [18:31] <nemo> smaug: hm. really?
2033. # [18:31] <nemo> 'cause... actual creation still seems slower than chrome, although by not nearly as much as in the pst
2034. # [18:31] <nemo> past
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2036. # [18:32] <@smaug> nemo: well, there are two things to fix
2037. # [18:32] <nemo> layout sucking is prooobably different. maybe some general linux prob?
2038. # [18:32] <@smaug> DOM creation and stuff like that
2039. # [18:32] <@smaug> where I might help
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2041. # [18:32] <@smaug> and then the layout part
2042. # [18:32] <@smaug> which sounds like something for tn or so
2043. # [18:32] <nemo> Actually. n/m - layout is stupid-slow on my mac too
2044. # [18:32] <nemo> "Rendered in 3.581s"
2045. # [18:33] <nemo> (vs 1.332s in Safari)
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2048. # [18:34] <RyanVM> aklotz: ping
2049. # [18:34] <nemo> smaug: http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase73c.xhtml instead of http://m8y.org/tmp/testcase73.xhtml for the extra layout force, fwiw
2050. # [18:34] <aklotz> RyanVM: pong
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2054. # [18:35] <RyanVM> aklotz: look familiar? :( https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24008671&tree=Mozilla-Beta
2055. # [18:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/50aa2dd3b0bd - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 879999: Move dcb null check above first use (Beta) r=jesup a=lsblakk
2056. # [18:36] <khuey> romaxa: NSS is not built in parallel on any platform last I checked
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2058. # [18:36] * aklotz grumbles
2059. # [18:36] <RyanVM> aklotz: I know, right?
2060. # [18:37] <RyanVM> bolsters the theory that it's a timing issue I guess
2061. # [18:37] <aklotz> RyanVM: I'll take a look into this later today
2062. # [18:37] <Ms2ger> edmorley, nice orangewfm spam
2063. # [18:37] <RyanVM> aklotz: thanks :)
2064. # [18:37] <aklotz> RyanVM: np
2065. # [18:37] <edmorley> Ms2ger: do I get a badge? ("SirSpamALot")
2066. # [18:37] <@smaug> nemo: I'll try to remember to profile
2067. # [18:38] <@smaug> once I've done some other profiling...
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2069. # [18:38] <nemo> heh
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2076. # [18:41] <Ms2ger> edmorley, if it was up to me, yes :)
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2078. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> edmorley, especially since I seem to get 3 or 4 bugmails for each of those, only one of which can be filtered ;)
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2080. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> I lied
2081. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> This one sent 7
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2085. # [18:43] <srishti> Hi I am a beginner in using firebug for debugging js, can anyone help me with that?
2086. # [18:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/30c85f01eb0f - Joe Drew - Bug 878751 - Port a bug fix from Chrome back to Mozilla. r=jlebar a=akeybl
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2091. # [18:45] <@smaug> srishti: try #firebug ?
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2096. # [18:47] <Ms2ger> baku, why me for bug 880042?
2097. # [18:47] * ahal|lunch is now known as ahal
2098. # [18:47] * Ms2ger pokes mounir
2099. # [18:47] <baku> mmm because you reviewed several things lately
2100. # [18:47] <@smaug> :)
2101. # [18:47] <@smaug> ++baku
2102. # [18:47] <baku> sure, just move the review request to mounir :)
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2104. # [18:47] <baku> wait wait
2105. # [18:47] <baku> not in general...
2106. # [18:47] <baku> but related to that particular file :)
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2110. # [18:48] <romaxa> khuey: I see, anyway on my linux laptop (w520 simple) everything seems building much faster, than win8 with W530 super stuffed configuration... I know it is all windows fault ;)
2111. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> mounir, ping
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2113. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> baku, I've reviewed too much, clearly
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2115. # [18:49] <baku> Ms2ger, haha ok :)
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2119. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> But if mounir isn't around, maybe I should throw it at smaug
2120. # [18:49] <@smaug> booo booo
2121. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> :)
2122. # [18:50] * Ms2ger looks who reviewed it
2123. # [18:50] * @smaug can review it, but it is really something for mounir
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2126. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> Yeah, totally
2127. # [18:51] * grobinson|afk is now known as grobinson
2128. # [18:51] <@smaug> and mounir is coming back tomorrow
2129. # [18:51] <@smaug> good to give him something to do :)
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2131. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> But akeybl wants a review in the next few hours
2132. # [18:52] <@smaug> oh
2133. # [18:52] <khuey> can't always get what you want
2134. # [18:52] * Ms2ger throws it at khuey
2135. # [18:52] <@smaug> yes!
2136. # [18:52] <khuey> dude have you seen my review queue?
2137. # [18:52] <khuey> jlebar and the folks from taipei have filled it up
2138. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> Actually, I've been avoiding khuey until he lands cc-in-workers
2139. # [18:53] <khuey> you're going to be waiting a long time
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2141. # [18:53] * @smaug reviews
2142. # [18:53] <RealRaven> how would one go about making the (thunderbird) menubar visible from code?
2143. # [18:53] <@smaug> while waiting for optimized snow-white build
2144. # [18:53] <RealRaven> the id is mail-toolbar-menubar2
2145. # [18:53] <RealRaven> some code in http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/common/utilityOverlay.js#253 that doesn't work for me
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2147. # [18:54] <@smaug> Ms2ger: I took it
2148. # [18:54] <Ms2ger> smaug, okay, thanks
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2150. # [18:54] <sachin_h> Hi. I have a quick question about XBL bindings.
2151. # [18:54] <sachin_h> If my xul element belongs to two CSS classes, and each class in the stylesheet binds it to different bindings (using -moz-binding), will my xul element get content from both bindings?
2152. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> There's such a thing as a quick XBL question?
2153. # [18:55] <NeilAway> sachin_h: no
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2157. # [18:55] <mbrubeck> sachin_h: No, the more specific (or later if tied) rule will overwrite the value from the other one.
2158. # [18:56] <sachin_h> Ms2ger: sorry? why not? :)
2159. # [18:56] <mbrubeck> This one was actually a CSS question :)
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2163. # [18:57] <@bz> sachin_h: because any answer involving XBL needs to have lots of caveats, typically
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2165. # [18:57] <@bz> That said, this one does have a simple answer, like NeilAway said. ;)
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2169. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> bz, because it wasn't an XBL question ;)
2170. # [18:58] <sachin_h> ah, I see. Thanks mbrubeck.
2171. # [18:59] <wchen> bz: have you had time to think about adding elements without frames to the ancestor filter?
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2186. # [19:05] <srishti> smaug, I am not getting any reply on #firebug, can you help me?
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2188. # [19:05] <@smaug> srishti: I know nothing about #firebug, sorry
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2194. # [19:07] <jwalden> froydnj: yeah, I probably shouldn't be the one to look at the other DoublePun instances
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2204. # [19:12] * @bz mutters about people disagreeing about the point of triage
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2210. # [19:15] <Ms2ger> bz, well, sage, what is the point? :)
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2212. # [19:16] <jwalden> bjacob_: yeah, if someone needs it, probably there should be a virtual refptr/refcounted sort of thing; I think probably I'd put it in a different header like VirtualRefPtr.h to make sure people distinguish the two
2213. # [19:16] <@bz> Ms2ger: the point is to get bugs fixed
2214. # [19:16] <@bz> Ms2ger: though some people seem to think the point is to reduce the number of things in Firefox:Untriaged
2215. # [19:17] <@bz> Ms2ger: without regard for whether bugs get ignored or whether it causes more work for triagers in other components who have to move misplaced bugs
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2217. # [19:17] * @bz is being grouchy
2218. # [19:17] <khuey> yeah moving unintelligble bugs into Core::DOM is not cool
2219. # [19:17] * khuey sent one of those back yesterday
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2221. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> Can we have a Firefox::Junk for those?
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2226. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> I do think it would be useful to get to the point where Fx::Untriaged is actually clear
2227. # [19:18] <edmorley> Ms2ger: offering to be module owner? :P
2228. # [19:18] <mbrubeck> Put them in "Fennec Graveyard" :)
2229. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> edmorley, for a bugzilla component that only contains bugs we ignore?
2230. # [19:19] <Ms2ger> edmorley, eh, sure
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2232. # [19:19] <edmorley> for replying to them... ;-)
2233. # [19:19] <lizzard> bz: I don't think that is the point really, but it might help
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2235. # [19:19] * edmorley is now known as edmorley|afk
2236. # [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbab527d8a4f - Rick Eyre - Bug 875169 - Fix crash when loading an HTMLTrackElement. r=bz
2237. # [19:20] <@bz> lizzard: well, so we can have a discussion about what the point is
2238. # [19:20] <lizzard> bz: as we bring in more triagers from the community there will definitely be some mistakes and annoyance. please let me know your thoughts!
2239. # [19:20] <@bz> lizzard: but I will claim that marking a bug about a specific testcase failing a duplicate of a tracking bug is fail no matter what the point is
2240. # [19:21] <lizzard> I am personally also making mistakes plenty of the time as I try to learn the right places to put things
2241. # [19:21] <@bz> lizzard: except if the point is to get rid of bugs at all costs.....
2242. # [19:21] <lizzard> bz: that does sound like fail :D
2243. # [19:21] <@bz> lizzard: And sure, people make mistakes at first. Been there myself. ;)
2244. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> lizzard, there's mistakes and there's things like bug 879141
2245. # [19:21] <lizzard> let me know the worst examples if you don't mind!
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2248. # [19:23] <lizzard> Ms2ger: wow that is epic
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2250. # [19:23] <khuey> epic is not the word I would use
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2254. # [19:24] <@gavin> khuey: core::dom is a better component
2255. # [19:24] <@gavin> if you think the bug is invalid, mark it invalid
2256. # [19:25] <jwalden> that looks textbook incomplete to me
2257. # [19:25] <@gavin> sure, or that
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2261. # [19:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e2e93d5247f3 - Chris Lord - Bug 856497 - Fix dynamic viewport sizing for margin changes. r=kats a=akeybl
2262. # [19:26] <Fallen> whats the procedure for landing devtools code? I see a few bugs where things land in fx-team first?
2263. # [19:26] <khuey> gavin: the bug is completely useless
2264. # [19:26] <@bz> gavin: how is core::dom a better component?
2265. # [19:27] <@gavin> bz: it's a dom bug
2266. # [19:27] <khuey> gavin: how is core::dom in any way a better component
2267. # [19:27] <Fallen> oops wrong channel
2268. # [19:27] <@bz> gavin: how can you tell?
2269. # [19:27] <khuey> gavin: we are looking at the same bug, right?
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2271. # [19:27] <khuey> 879141
2272. # [19:27] <khuey> ?
2273. # [19:27] <Ms2ger> "//# sourceMappingURL (replacing the deprecated //@ sourceMappingURL)"
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2275. # [19:27] * Ms2ger wonders what that was good for
2276. # [19:27] <@gavin> yes
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2278. # [19:27] <@gavin> khuey: window.open is DOM
2279. # [19:27] <@bz> gavin: no
2280. # [19:27] <@bz> gavin: depending on what the actual things are, it could be DOM or Firefox
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2282. # [19:28] <@bz> gavin: or layout
2283. # [19:28] <khuey> or docshell
2284. # [19:28] <@bz> gavin: or docshell, yes
2285. # [19:28] <khuey> or any number of other things
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2287. # [19:28] <@bz> gavin: depending on basic little things like what the problem is
2288. # [19:28] <@bz> gavin: putting that bug in dom does nothing to help that along
2289. # [19:28] <@gavin> I agree that the bug should ahve just been resolved
2290. # [19:28] <@gavin> but moving the bug to the right component is not wrong
2291. # [19:29] <@gavin> s/"right"/"better"/
2292. # [19:29] <@bz> My point is that this is almost certainly the wrong component
2293. # [19:29] <khuey> it's not in the right component ...
2294. # [19:29] <khuey> it's not even in a better component
2295. # [19:29] <@bz> If I had to hazard a guess
2296. # [19:29] <@gavin> how do you know? DOM is a good guess
2297. # [19:29] <khuey> because if I didn't send it back I would have just resolved it invalid
2298. # [19:29] <@bz> the "right" component is "Firefox sets the pref to make window.focus() a no-op"
2299. # [19:29] <@gavin> as good a guess as any given what's in the bug
2300. # [19:29] <khuey> but if it's in Firefox::Untriaged somebody might actually ask the reporter for more information
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2302. # [19:29] <@bz> Which is totally a Firefox thing, not a DOM thing
2303. # [19:29] <@bz> gavin: see, that's the key
2304. # [19:30] <lizzard> khuey: i would have asked the reporter for more info, then resolved it invalid
2305. # [19:30] <@bz> gavin: if it's in Untriaged, it shows up on the radar of volunteer QA who ask the reporter for more info
2306. # [19:30] <@gavin> khuey: no, Firefox::Untriaged is not a magical component where bugs get handled by people
2307. # [19:30] <khuey> the point of triage isn't to take a stab in the dark and throw it somewhere
2308. # [19:30] <@bz> gavin: actually, it is
2309. # [19:30] <@bz> gavin: there are people who explicitly look at it
2310. # [19:30] <@bz> gavin: and other people who explicitly do NOT
2311. # [19:30] <@bz> gavin: what moving it to DOM does is ping me and khuey to go look at it
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2315. # [19:31] <@bz> gavin: (which we did)
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2317. # [19:31] <lizzard> i actually get the feeling that people in some components mind more than others if they get this sort of thing.
2318. # [19:31] <khuey> and neither of us read chinese ;-)
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2322. # [19:31] <lizzard> Or, better bugs that aren't confirmed
2323. # [19:31] <@bz> gavin: and I will argue that in this case that's counterproductive, since there is no point for either of us to look at the bug in the state it's in
2324. # [19:31] <@bz> lizzard: yeah, some people don't triage their components
2325. # [19:31] <khuey> I used to have the bugzilla thing set to not get mail for UNCONFIRMED bugs
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2327. # [19:31] <@bz> lizzard: so they don't care if you dump stuff in them
2328. # [19:31] <khuey> I don't want to have to go back to that
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2330. # [19:32] <@bz> lizzard: but some of us actually want to know when people are reporting problems against our code.... ;)
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2332. # [19:32] <@bz> Anyway
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2336. # [19:33] <RyanVM> baku: ping
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2338. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> bz, you could try ehsan ;)
2339. # [19:33] <baku> RyanVM, pong
2340. # [19:33] <RyanVM> baku: should I be worried that I don't see a Try link anywhere near the bottom of bug 856410?
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2343. # [19:34] <RyanVM> that looks rather big and scary
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2345. # [19:34] <davida> have we grown an about:cpu or equivalent to figure out what's using up cycles?
2346. # [19:34] <baku> RyanVM, no.. emm... I forgot :)
2347. # [19:34] <@gavin> bz: I agree that moving the bug was not the most productive thing, but I also don't think it was wrong
2348. # [19:34] <baku> RyanVM, let me push it first.
2349. # [19:34] <@ehsan> bz: what code is this?
2350. # [19:34] <@gavin> bz: how would you have felt if the original reporter filed that in Core::DOM?
2351. # [19:35] <RyanVM> baku: sounds good :)
2352. # [19:35] <@gavin> bz: my issue is that bug triage needs to be a burden that's shared, and not just relegated to "the people who want to watch untriaged"
2353. # [19:35] <RyanVM> baku: please take the c-n off for now then and add it back when Try's green :)
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2355. # [19:35] <baku> RyanVM, ok
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2361. # [19:39] <Yoric> yzen: Actually, it turns out that there is a command |purge| on MacOS X that purges the disk cache
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2364. # [19:39] <yzen> yep i meant to ask you about it (*use it all the time)
2365. # [19:39] <yzen> Yoric: ^
2366. # [19:39] <@bz> gavin: if it had been filed in DOM, I would have needinfo'd the reporter
2367. # [19:40] <@bz> gavin: I too argue it should be shared
2368. # [19:40] <Yoric> yzen: Out of curiosity, where did you encounter that command?
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2370. # [19:40] <Yoric> I just heard about it from irving.
2371. # [19:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/691667f48b24 - Raymond Lee - Bug 874808 - simpleDownload should accept string arguments and options. r=paolo
2372. # [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf635d80ad69 - Martin Stransky - Bug 877626 - Port GTK2 to GTK3 - build config, gfx dir. r=karlt
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2374. # [19:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cb01583448b - Martin Stransky - Bug 879760 - Port GTK2 to GTK3 - browser dir. r=karlt
2375. # [19:41] <yzen> Yoric: i use it from time ot time to clear some RAM on my machine
2376. # [19:41] <@bz> gavin: and in this instance it feels like it's just being dumped on whoever is watching the DOM components
2377. # [19:41] <yzen> Yoric: someone i know blogged about it a while back
2378. # [19:42] <Yoric> ok
2379. # [19:42] <@gavin> bz: well, in context what adw was doing was redirecting a bunch of bugs to better components for triage
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2381. # [19:42] <@gavin> bz: the idea being to distribute the load to people who may be better suited to deal with the bug
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2384. # [19:43] <@gavin> bz: which I think is a useful thing to do, even if the error rate might not be 0
2385. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> gavin, the people who might have been better suited at that point were people who spoke Mandarin, surely?
2386. # [19:43] <@gavin> Ms2ger: it's easy to nitpick the decision looking at one bug
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2389. # [19:44] <Ms2ger> gavin, well, it was that bug I was looking at ;)
2390. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> But it doesn't feel too bad for DOM, at least
2391. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> Maybe because I don't jump at new bugs as fast as bz and khuey :)
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2396. # [19:47] <RyanVM> jwalden: I think this is legitimately yours? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24014902&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2397. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, y u full log? ;)
2398. # [19:48] <RyanVM> jwalden: scratch that, jandem's owning up to it :)
2399. # [19:48] <jwalden> that's right, he'd better
2400. # [19:48] <jwalden> ;-)
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2411. # [19:51] <@ehsan> armenzg_brb: the VS setup tells me I need winxp sp3
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2426. # [19:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acda9f185e0b - Luke Wagner - Bug 881608 - OdinMonkey: handle Type::Unknown when checking call args (r=bbouvier)
2427. # [19:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7e69e102a432 - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 823978 - Rename JSOPTION_STRICT to JSOPTION_EXTRA_WARNINGS. r=Waldo
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2445. # [20:01] <wlach> is it just me, or will the following just not work for any option other than PR_SockOpt_Reuseaddr? http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/9ca690835a5e/nsprpub/pr/src/io/prmapopt.c#l235
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2447. # [20:02] <wlach> (I'm looking into this because I'm wondering if we're actually setting TCP_NODELAY)
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2449. # [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5fde8a18746 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 879957 Avoid calling FileEncryptionStatusW r=jimm
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2452. # [20:03] <romaxa> khuey: have you ever seen this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2511997 ?
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2461. # [20:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bcb4e711f4eb - Jan de Mooij - Bug 868437 follow-up - Disable MSVC PGO for ScriptFrameIter methods to fix PGO crashes. rs=luke
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2465. # [20:07] <armenzg_brb> ehsan: oh no
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2468. # [20:08] <armenzg> ehsan: what does it happen if you check for updates?
2469. # [20:09] <@ehsan> armenzg: check for windows updates?
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2472. # [20:09] <armenzg> ehsan: yep
2473. # [20:09] <@ehsan> hmm
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2475. # [20:10] <@ehsan> armenzg: remind me how you would do that?
2476. # [20:10] <armenzg> I am going to look for a package to put on dev-stage01 if you need to
2477. # [20:10] <@ehsan> I can't find anything on the control panel
2478. # [20:10] <armenzg> ehsan: lol I will VNC
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2480. # [20:10] <@ehsan> thanks!
2481. # [20:10] <@ehsan> it's been ages since I dealt with winxp...
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2483. # [20:11] <armenzg> ehsan: it ain't working - I will download a package
2484. # [20:12] <@ehsan> ok thanks
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2491. # [20:14] <armenzg> ehsan: I'm downloading this to the Desktop http://download.microsoft.com/download/d/3/0/d30e32d8-418a-469d-b600-f32ce3edf42d/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe
2492. # [20:14] <armenzg> it should be done in 15 seconds
2493. # [20:14] <armenzg> all yours again
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2497. # [20:15] <@ehsan> cool
2498. # [20:15] <@ehsan> thanks
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2503. # [20:16] <mrbkap> dolske: ping?
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2505. # [20:17] <armenzg> yw
2506. # [20:17] <bent> anyone else unable to push to try?
2507. # [20:18] <bent> or even load it...
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2512. # [20:18] <@dolske> mrbkap: hi
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2516. # [20:19] <mrbkap> dolske: Hey, where does the UX branch live?
2517. # [20:19] <khuey> bent: we had your tryserver access disabled
2518. # [20:19] <jwalden> khuey++
2519. # [20:19] <mrbkap> dolske: (see also, the mail from dougt) :)
2520. # [20:19] <bent> only in my wildest dreams
2521. # [20:19] <@dolske> mrbkap: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/ux/pushloghtml / http://people.mozilla.org/~jwein/ux-nightly/
2522. # [20:19] <Ms2ger> bent, /topic
2523. # [20:20] <bent> that bug is FIXED
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2525. # [20:20] <Ms2ger> Heh
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2528. # [20:21] <mrbkap> dolske: so I want to be trying my patches on top of ux-central?
2529. # [20:21] <mrbkap> oops
2530. # [20:21] <mrbkap> dolske: /projects/ux
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2532. # [20:21] <@dolske> sure
2533. # [20:22] <RyanVM|mtg> benjamin: inbound bustage
2534. # [20:22] <mrbkap> dolske: cool, thanks.
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2540. # [20:27] <@ehsan> armenzg: ping
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2542. # [20:28] <@ehsan> armenzg: there's an error when installing the service pack which I don't know how to deal with, can you please vnc again?
2543. # [20:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6efe035de74 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 7e69e102a432 (bug 823978) for bustage.
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2549. # [20:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c40c7b5d714d - Adam Roach [:abr] - Bug 784519 - Part 5: signalingState unit tests r=ekr
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2551. # [20:30] <armenzg> ehsan: checking now
2552. # [20:30] <@ehsan> ty
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2554. # [20:31] <armenzg> I took a screenshot so I can research it - I wonder if they test those updates anymore
2555. # [20:31] <armenzg> Windows update did not work at all
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2563. # [20:32] <armenzg> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3841
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2565. # [20:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1df122edcf0d - Benjamin Peterson - Bug 823978 - Rename JSOPTION_STRICT to JSOPTION_EXTRA_WARNINGS. r=Waldo
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2567. # [20:36] <armenzg> ehsan: I have finished the steps of the first section "get out of the SP3 installer"; would you be able to resume from there?
2568. # [20:37] <armenzg> I have done no steps from "Disabling the OS X file system read feature"
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2570. # [20:38] <TimAbraldes> was it a conscious design choice that pinned sites don't respect the "keep cookies until I close Firefox" setting?
2571. # [20:39] <@gavin> TimAbraldes: you mean app tabs?
2572. # [20:39] <TimAbraldes> gavin: yes
2573. # [20:39] <@gavin> app tabs are session restored, and session restore restores session cookies, yeah
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2575. # [20:40] <@gavin> I guess https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655178 is on file
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2577. # [20:40] <@gavin> not sure if there are other relevant bugs
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2580. # [20:41] <TimAbraldes> I don't prefer the behavior to be one way or the other, it just seemed odd
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2582. # [20:42] <TimAbraldes> I wonder if that discussion ever made it into the newsgroup
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2610. # [20:51] <romaxa> khuey: ping
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2614. # [20:52] <romaxa> khuey: have you ever seen this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2511997 ? this is on top of latest tip 86413e921d5d
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2618. # [20:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90f4975ba986 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 879172 - Recognize a device as Sony as soon as its Manufacturer string contains Sony as substring - r=joe
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2623. # [20:57] <@ehsan> jdm: ping
2624. # [20:57] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: ping
2625. # [20:57] <jdm> ehsan: pong
2626. # [20:58] <jdm> webaudio status update?
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2628. # [20:58] <@ehsan> jdm: yes :D
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2630. # [20:58] <@ehsan> nice guess ;)
2631. # [20:58] <jdm> yeah, I'll try to address roc's request today
2632. # [20:58] <@ehsan> super!
2633. # [20:58] <@ehsan> thanks so much
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2635. # [20:59] <secretrobotron> ehsan: hey
2636. # [20:59] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: hello sir! do you think you're going to have time to finish up the patch today?
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2639. # [21:01] <@ehsan> armenzg_: you know what? a windbg installer would do just as fine :)
2640. # [21:01] <@ehsan> armenzg_: windows debugger tools is what they call it these days I think
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2642. # [21:02] <armenzg_> ehsan: OK; need me to check anything? or want me to standby?
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2644. # [21:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0acda90a6f6a - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge inbound to m-c.
2645. # [21:02] <@ehsan> armenzg_: well, one question, can I actually access outside of the build network on this box?
2646. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f4ec1953f7e5 - Mihai Sucan - Bug 861338 - [browserconsole] Cache Console.jsm API calls with ConsoleAPIStorage.jsm; r=jwalker
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2648. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4ddc0934d82 - Michael Ratcliffe - Bug 864249 - Add option to toggle JavaScript to Toolbox Options panel r=jwalker
2649. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fd5b82351fac - Panos Astithas - Don't take the slow async path when source maps are not enabled or present (bug 873224); r=rcampbell f=nfitzgerald
2650. # [21:02] <secretrobotron> ehsan: not soon, no :(
2651. # [21:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59d6cff1a48e - Paul Rouget - Bug 879692 - New OSX scrollbars are not compatible with the devtools floating scrollbars. r=harth
2652. # [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/acc835230428 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge fx-team to m-c.
2653. # [21:03] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: hrm...
2654. # [21:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5fd0dc3b821b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to inbound.
2655. # [21:03] <no_gravity> Hello! It looks like Thunderbird stores messages locally even when its set to not do so. I only use imap but my cache folder is 270mb. Can I simply delete the whole cache folder?
2656. # [21:03] <armenzg_> ehsan: I believe so
2657. # [21:03] <armenzg_> I was able to download sp3 directly
2658. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> no_gravity, I think you want to try #maildev
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2660. # [21:03] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: the reason I'm asking is that I want to work on MediaElementAudioSourceNode... I guess I can just apply your patch locally and do that
2661. # [21:04] <@ehsan> armenzg_: ok... where was the firefox build again?
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2663. # [21:04] <@ehsan> armenzg_: IE crashes on startup ;)
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2666. # [21:04] <no_gravity> Ms2ger: ok
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2669. # [21:05] <secretrobotron> ehsan: you certainly could
2670. # [21:05] <secretrobotron> i should be more available to assist tomorrow :/
2671. # [21:05] <secretrobotron> sorry dude
2672. # [21:05] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: cool, so I'll continue to put polite social pressure on you :)
2673. # [21:05] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: and no worries!
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2675. # [21:06] <secretrobotron> hahahahhaha
2676. # [21:06] <secretrobotron> thaaaaat's what this is
2677. # [21:06] <secretrobotron> you'd make a good mother
2678. # [21:06] <@ehsan> I would be terrified of being my child ;)
2679. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> Rightfully so!
2680. # [21:07] <secretrobotron> hahahah
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2682. # [21:07] <Ms2ger> "If you want to go out this weekend, you'd better fix some editor bugs first!"
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2685. # [21:07] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: well, it would be more like, "You're staying home, and you're fixing these bugs, and it's only gonna get worse from now on!"
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2688. # [21:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1591609139fd - Kai Engert - Bug 881841, update to NSS_3_15_1_BETA1, r=wtc
2689. # [21:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4e0f0d13afd3 - JosiahOne - Bug 881713 - Use onClick: for double-click actions in drawInTitlebar windows. r=smichaud
2690. # [21:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/149475141471 - Martin Stransky - Bug 877626 - Port GTK2 to GTK3 - build config, rest of the tree. r=karlt
2691. # [21:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c6f5f334a15 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 880042 - file[multiple] form field nsIFilePicker crash if overriding component has not implemented a domfiles getter. r=smaug
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2693. # [21:11] <Ms2ger> akeybl, there you go :)
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2698. # [21:13] <froydnj> is there a magic makefile var for topsrcdir as an absolute directory?
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2700. # [21:13] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: btw, does the latest version of your patch still has the bug which caused audio to chop?
2701. # [21:13] <akeybl> thanks Ms2ger!
2702. # [21:13] <@bz> froydnj: $(topsrcdir) is not it?
2703. # [21:13] <secretrobotron> don't think so, no
2704. # [21:13] <Ms2ger> froydnj, $(absdir $(topsrcdir))?
2705. # [21:13] <secretrobotron> if you refresh the page continually, it might break
2706. # [21:14] <Ms2ger> akeybl, and all I had to do was talk about it ;)
2707. # [21:14] <secretrobotron> but, i think it's good
2708. # [21:14] * gregglind is now known as gregglind_bbiab
2709. # [21:14] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: break how? also, what's "the page"?
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2711. # [21:14] <froydnj> bz: apparently not in all makefiles
2712. # [21:14] <secretrobotron> a test page, i mean
2713. # [21:14] <secretrobotron> i remember it not playing for the full duration sometimes
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2716. # [21:14] <secretrobotron> but my memories might be outdated now
2717. # [21:14] <@ehsan> ok
2718. # [21:15] <froydnj> Ms2ger: looks like $(call core_abspath,...) instead?
2719. # [21:15] <Ms2ger> Mm, maybe, yes
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2721. # [21:15] <froydnj> but then there is core_winabspath...hm
2722. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d038d584102c - Wes Johnston - Bug 874401 - Show an ongoing notification when webrtc is active. r=mfinkle
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2725. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14b4165dc0e2 - Wes Johnston - Bug 878613 - Fix styling of spinner popups. r=sriram
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2731. # [21:17] <RyanVM> akeybl: yw :P
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2733. # [21:18] <akeybl> yeah I'm reading the bug itself now :D team effort
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2736. # [21:19] <RyanVM> i'm looking forward to being within throwing distance of people in MV and SF next week
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2738. # [21:20] <RyanVM> i should pack a nerf football
2739. # [21:20] <qDot> D:
2740. # [21:20] * qDot will remember to wear and helmet and procrastinate on pushes next week
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2744. # [21:21] <RyanVM> oh benjamin...
2745. # [21:21] <froydnj> no, no, we need to see--in person--how RyanVM behaves under massive tree burning
2746. # [21:21] * RyanVM closes tree, grabs beer
2747. # [21:22] <RyanVM> :D
2748. # [21:23] <froydnj> of course, the Tree Closure Cannon +5 makes it kind of a boring spectacle
2749. # [21:23] <RyanVM> lol
2750. # [21:23] <gaston> are there metrics those days about trees being closed/open ? that'd be interesting to plot :)
2751. # [21:23] * pmoore is now known as pmoore|away
2752. # [21:23] <Gijs> mrbkap: ping? :)
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2755. # [21:24] <froydnj> guess that just means we see how RyanVM does when drinking mass quantities of beer
2756. # [21:24] <RyanVM> hahahaha
2757. # [21:25] <RyanVM> that's a slightly less-boring spectacle
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2760. # [21:26] <RyanVM> whelp, 5 minutes is up
2761. # [21:26] <froydnj> only slightly?
2762. # [21:26] <RyanVM> out we go
2763. # [21:26] <RyanVM> froydnj: scotch or tequila, on the other hand...
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2765. # [21:26] <mounir> smaug: because obviously, I will have a hard time to find things to do tomorrow :)
2766. # [21:26] <RyanVM> now why jwalden gave this an r+ is beyond me...
2767. # [21:26] <RyanVM> :P
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2769. # [21:27] <froydnj> is that the same build error?
2770. # [21:27] <RyanVM> yep, one more spot he missed
2771. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a6cd8d533b7 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1df122edcf0d (bug 823978) for bustage (again).
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2773. # [21:27] <jwalden> RyanVM: the JSOPTION_STRICT patch? I generally assume patches to have been built
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2781. # [21:30] <Sreenidhi> lunch?
2782. # [21:30] <Sreenidhi> ya
2783. # [21:30] <Sreenidhi> sorry, wrong channel
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2785. # [21:30] <@ehsan> does anybody know how you can get a standalone windbg these days?
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2788. # [21:30] <@dolske> tree's closed, it's the lunch + mfbt channel for the moment. :)
2789. # [21:30] <RyanVM> dolske: whoops, I can reopen
2790. # [21:31] <RyanVM> sorry, was caught up starring
2791. # [21:31] <froydnj> it's a good day when you collect a lot of stars, right?
2792. # [21:31] <Ms2ger> jwalden|lunch, you must be new here
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2796. # [21:32] <@ehsan> dolske: it's 3 hours past lunch time :P
2797. # [21:33] <@dolske> ehsan: your loss.
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2806. # [21:38] <jlebar|sleep> Is anyone else's firefox much less responsive when they're building ff on mac?
2807. # [21:38] * jlebar|sleep is now known as jlebar
2808. # [21:38] <jlebar> I've tried nice, but that doesn't seem to help.
2809. # [21:39] <@bz> jlebar|sleep: I see this too, fwiw
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2811. # [21:39] <jlebar> bz: :-/
2812. # [21:39] * froydnj shakes fist at dom/encoding/test/unit/
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2816. # [21:40] <@gavin> RyanVM: is there an easy way to see the platform breakdown for failures from bug 861700?
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2818. # [21:41] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: man you have windows line endings in your patch
2819. # [21:41] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: I don't know what to say to you... ;)
2820. # [21:41] * froydnj really needs to teach C-x e to DTRT with defvar
2821. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I know: "dos2unixé
2822. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> "
2823. # [21:41] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: that's besides the point ;)
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2825. # [21:42] <secretrobotron> ehsan: i don't know how... those got there...?
2826. # [21:42] <secretrobotron> :D
2827. # [21:42] <froydnj> hm, so |mach install| knows how to put binaries on a phone; does |make|?
2828. # [21:43] <padenot> make -C objdir install
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2830. # [21:43] <padenot> ./mach install actually calls a makefile target
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2833. # [21:43] <@gavin> RyanVM: I just found http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/?display=Bug&bugid=861700&startday=2013-06-04&endday=2013-06-11&tree=trunk
2834. # [21:44] <Ms2ger> froydnj, but why would you do that?
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2837. # [21:44] <froydnj> Ms2ger: because I don't use mach?
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2839. # [21:45] <Ms2ger> froydnj, why not?
2840. # [21:45] <gaston> jesup|laptop: since you plan to update webrtc itself in 880879, should i hold off the bsd patches atm and rebase them on top of the update ?
2841. # [21:46] <froydnj> Ms2ger: because bugs?
2842. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> froydnj, such as?
2843. # [21:46] <RyanVM> gavin: sorry, I was afk for a second. Looks like you're good?
2844. # [21:46] <blassey> MattN: can you test the patch in bug 880842?
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2847. # [21:46] <@gavin> RyanVM: yep
2848. # [21:46] <MattN> blassey: yep, I'm on it
2849. # [21:46] <blassey> thanks
2850. # [21:47] <blassey> snorp: ^^
2851. # [21:47] <snorp> MattN: woo
2852. # [21:47] <froydnj> Ms2ger: bug 875684, bug 847175, for instance
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2856. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> froydnj, ah, *filed* bugs. Good, then :)
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2858. # [21:50] <froydnj> Ms2ger: well, one filed bug that's "who would ever want this fixed?"...at least the terminal bug seems likely to be fixed
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2860. # [21:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1684c32be328 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 859609 - Inline functions that use the scope chain, and also inline call sites with monomorphic cloned lambdas. r=h4writer
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2862. # [21:51] <Ms2ger> froydnj, is that the one that says "I want to fix mach's logging so cases like yours "just work." It will come in time."?
2863. # [21:52] <froydnj> Ms2ger: yes
2864. # [21:52] * gps needs to fix mach's logging
2865. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> I see
2866. # [21:52] <Ms2ger> gps, yes :)
2867. # [21:52] * gps also needs to add proper config file support to mach
2868. # [21:52] <froydnj> yay, fennec on my phone
2869. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> And multi-objdir support
2870. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> And a million other things :)
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2872. # [21:53] <MattN> snorp: it's not reproducible on the UX branch so I need to do a pull and clobber. It'll be a bit
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2874. # [21:53] <MattN> (of m-c)
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2877. # [21:54] <Ms2ger> gps, but we have trust in you! :)
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2893. # [21:57] <GPHemsley> Feedback welcome: http://mimesniff.spec.whatwg.org/#serialize-a-mime-type
2894. # [21:58] <GPHemsley> jcranmer: ^^
2895. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/08be9e70f4b1 - Brad Lassey - Bug 856445 - Startup crash on LG Optimus Black (LG P970), don't init sms objects we don't use if sms support isn't enabled. r=bnicholson, a=akeybl
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2898. # [21:58] <blassey> who pushed that?
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2900. # [21:58] <blassey> oh, RyanVM
2901. # [21:58] <blassey> thanks man
2902. # [21:59] <RyanVM> yw :)
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2929. # [22:09] <RyanVM> bjacob: inbound bustage
2930. # [22:10] <RyanVM> bjacob_ ^
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2938. # [22:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bcf3b603a662 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 90f4975ba986 (bug 879172) for Android bustage on a CLOSED TREE.
2939. # [22:14] <bjacob_> RyanVM: looking
2940. # [22:14] <RyanVM> take your time ^
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2943. # [22:14] <bjacob_> RyanVM: can you point me to a specific run? cant see
2944. # [22:14] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24021356&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2950. # [22:16] <bjacob_> RyanVM: oh, this is our strings api being too irregular to even review a 1 line patch
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2952. # [22:17] <bjacob_> RyanVM: this isnt what got the tree closed, is it?
2953. # [22:17] <RyanVM> yep
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2955. # [22:18] <RyanVM> and at this point, there's been so much bustage piled on, I'm going to let things stay closed and catch up for awhile
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2962. # [22:20] <bjacob_> RyanVM: is it, or is not me, who caused the tree closure?
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2964. # [22:20] <bjacob_> RyanVM: also, can i land the fix with CLOSED TREE now?
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2966. # [22:20] <RyanVM> yes, I closed the tree for the Android bustage
2967. # [22:20] <RyanVM> bjacob_: I already backed you out
2968. # [22:20] <RyanVM> so just re-land when the tree opens again
2969. # [22:21] <bjacob_> RyanVM: ok, no CLOSED TREE landing ? ok. but my question was, is there other android bustage than mine?
2970. # [22:21] <RyanVM> no, just yours
2971. # [22:21] <bjacob_> oh
2972. # [22:21] <jlebar> Is there a macro that gets the name of the cpp file that's being compiled, even if you're in a header?
2973. # [22:21] <RyanVM> but I'm waiting to reopen until I'm sure there isn't more
2974. # [22:22] * jlebar doesn't see it in the gcc docs, but hopes it's hiding.
2975. # [22:22] <gaston> wasnt there a bug to merge the 3 copies of gtest we have in thre tree ?
2976. # [22:22] <bjacob_> RyanVM: why close the tree for that, as opposed to just backing me out?
2977. # [22:22] <RyanVM> since there were 6 pushes after yours
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2979. # [22:22] <RyanVM> including android-only pushes
2980. # [22:22] <bjacob_> oh...
2981. # [22:22] <froydnj> jlebar: I think you are out of luck
2982. # [22:22] <bjacob_> RyanVM: so basically now, the new thing is, any one line patch that we land can cause a tree closure
2983. # [22:22] <jlebar> froydnj: I was afraid of that.
2984. # [22:22] <jlebar> froydnj: Thanks.
2985. # [22:22] <RyanVM> I wouldn't call that a new policy
2986. # [22:23] <RyanVM> if you land bustage in the middle of the work day, you can expect a short leash
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2990. # [22:23] <mbrubeck> We've been pre-emptively closing the tree in these situations more in the last 6 months or so than we did in the very early days of inbound.
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2992. # [22:23] <mbrubeck> So it's "new" in that sense.
2993. # [22:23] <RyanVM> bjacob: closing also prevents more stuff from landing on top of bustage
2994. # [22:23] <bjacob_> RyanVM: but there used to be an intermediate way of backing out red pushes without closing the tree
2995. # [22:23] <bjacob_> RyanVM: ok...
2996. # [22:23] <RyanVM> as much as I love push-racing a backout
2997. # [22:23] <mrbkap> Gijs: pong
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3001. # [22:24] <RyanVM> mbrubeck: I'd argue that current practice is saner than what we used to do
3002. # [22:24] <Gijs> mrbkap: hey, as luck would have it, by now I have two questions for you rather than 1. ;)
3003. # [22:24] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: I agree.
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3005. # [22:24] <Gijs> mrbkap: first off, does this stack ring any bells: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2512396 ?
3006. # [22:24] <Gijs> mrbkap: I can reproduce reliably... it seems to want to destroy a jsContext when there's still an outstanding request on it?
3007. # [22:24] <mbrubeck> RyanVM: Especially with the level of traffic these days, I think we'd have entire days without a green push on inbound, if we didn't close the tree to let it green up.
3008. # [22:25] <Gijs> (UX build from... a while ago... with some interesting patches mixing mutation observing and XBL)
3009. # [22:25] <RyanVM> the last bustage-free push was 2 hours ago
3010. # [22:25] <bjacob_> RyanVM: so, i was asked by release managers to land this asap because this requires backporting to beta today. just to give some context. the cost of closing the tree and not accepting a CLOSED TREE fix may be higher than it seemed.
3011. # [22:25] <Gijs> (a while being a couple of days, probably)
3012. # [22:25] <froydnj> jlebar: oh, maybe __BASE_FILE__ is what you want
3013. # [22:25] <RyanVM> bjacob_: dumb question - why wasn't an android fix compiled on android before pushing?
3014. # [22:25] <mrbkap> Gijs: Mixing how?
3015. # [22:25] <froydnj> jlebar: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.7.3/cpp/Common-Predefined-Macros.html
3016. # [22:26] <jlebar> froydnj: you're awesome
3017. # [22:26] <jlebar> froydnj: thanks.
3018. # [22:26] <jlebar> (Now the real question is, does msvc have something like this.)
3019. # [22:26] <bjacob_> RyanVM: because getting making an android build would have delayed this by ~1 hour and we didnt have that time,
3020. # [22:26] <bjacob_> .
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3022. # [22:26] <Gijs> mrbkap: I have a XBL toolbar binding which observes mutations on its childList, and I'm appending a child to some other node from the observer callback
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3024. # [22:27] <Gijs> mrbkap: that said, I .disconnect and re-observe the observer 'around' doing that to avoid re-entrancy.
3025. # [22:27] <RyanVM> bjacob_: I don't find it unreasonable to make sure that a patch compiles before pushing
3026. # [22:27] <Gijs> mrbkap: so I'm really confused as to what's triggering the crash.
3027. # [22:27] <bjacob_> RyanVM: also because this was a 1 line patch and while compile errors happen, it is actually a result of that new policy, that such a trivial patch could cause a tree closure.
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3029. # [22:27] <jlebar> looks like I'm sol for msvc.
3030. # [22:27] <jlebar> oh well.
3031. # [22:27] <RyanVM> it's always been the case that bustage pileups = tree closures
3032. # [22:27] <Gijs> mrbkap: I still have this crash live in my debugger if that helps... anything you want to know?
3033. # [22:27] <RyanVM> the number of lines is irrelevant
3034. # [22:28] <bjacob_> RyanVM: i dont find it unreasonable to assume that it's ok to push untested a 1 line change, and that it wont cause a tree closure.
3035. # [22:28] <RyanVM> android was completely hosed
3036. # [22:28] <RyanVM> and more android patches landed on top of it
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3038. # [22:28] <bjacob_> RyanVM: it is very relevant to evaluating the risk that a patch would break stuff.
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3042. # [22:29] <bjacob_> RyanVM: and by "completely hosed" you're just referring to the fact that any compiler error is fatal, sure enough.
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3046. # [22:29] <RyanVM> which means a complete and total lack of tests on that platform for n number of pushes above it
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3049. # [22:29] <mrbkap> Gijs: sorry, had to step afk for a sec, there.
3050. # [22:30] <mbrubeck> bjacob_: For almost three years now, I've been closing the tree when bustage prevents testing on multiple following pushes.
3051. # [22:30] <Gijs> no worries! :)
3052. # [22:30] <Gijs> sadly, this is an opt build so no DumpJSStack(), it seems :S
3053. # [22:30] <mbrubeck> bjacob_: So it shouldn't be *too* surprising. :/
3054. # [22:30] <RyanVM> bjacob_: if it makes you feel better, there's new-looking orange on inbound besides yours too
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3056. # [22:30] <@gavin> Gijs: DumpJSStack should work in an opt build?
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3061. # [22:31] <RyanVM> looks like bustage from the NSS update
3062. # [22:31] <bjacob_> RyanVM: what's the rationale for not allowing me to push the fix on CLOSED TREE now, again?
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3064. # [22:31] <RyanVM> besides the long-standing tree rule of not pushing on top of bustage?
3065. # [22:31] <mrbkap> Gijs: what gavin said.
3066. # [22:32] <@gavin> RyanVM: well, bustage fixes are kinda different :)
3067. # [22:32] <bjacob_> RyanVM: yes, besides any ideological rules that obviously don't meaningfully apply here?
3068. # [22:32] <AaronMT> bjacob_: lets make it's right this time :)
3069. # [22:32] <AaronMT> these blocklist patches always scare me
3070. # [22:32] <RyanVM> gavin: the bustage is backed out - the complaint is over re-landing the original patch
3071. # [22:32] <bjacob_> it's just that lets be clear, next time akeybl asks me for a last minute blocklist fix, i'll say no
3072. # [22:32] <@gavin> RyanVM: in this case, fixing in place would have probably been better than a backout
3073. # [22:32] <bjacob_> because the process is too painful
3074. # [22:32] <@gavin> RyanVM: treeclosure decision aside
3075. # [22:32] <Gijs> gavin, mrbkap: VS is saying "identifier DumpJSSTack" is undefined
3076. # [22:33] <Gijs> *Stack
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3078. # [22:33] <RyanVM> gavin: I give 5 minutes for a reply. I didn't get one. I backed out.
3079. # [22:33] <RyanVM> I can't wait indefinitely
3080. # [22:33] <mbrubeck> bjacob_: The rationale for keeping the tree closed to changes is that we need to get it to a known-good state, so (a) we can eventually merge it to m-c, and (b) if there is any additional bustage that landed on pushes that couldn't get tested, to minimize the work for the people who need to track down that additional bustage.
3081. # [22:33] <@gavin> RyanVM: fair enough, hindsight is 20/20 etc.
3082. # [22:33] <mrbkap> Gijs: You probably need to be in a stack frame in xpconnect's dll.
3083. # [22:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/291207393608 - Ralph Giles - Bug 879924 - Don't shorten zero-length strings. r=derf
3084. # [22:33] <mib_bcuve6> Hello coders! The menuitems of my plugin disappear when I click on the navigation bar. Would it happen to somebody? (If I "paste and go" there is no problem)
3085. # [22:33] <mrbkap> Gijs: Or something like that?
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3087. # [22:33] <bjacob_> RyanVM: backing me out was fine! i didn't complain about that. I complain about tree closure and about not being about to reland on closed tree.
3088. # [22:33] <Gijs> mrbkap: is that mozjs.dll or xul.dll? :(
3089. # [22:34] <mrbkap> Gijs: oh, crap, it's xul.dll.
3090. # [22:34] <mrbkap> Gijs: I'm pretty lost when it comes to debugging in msvc, though :/
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3094. # [22:34] <mbrubeck> bjacob_: You can still land on mozilla-central if you are willing to star/backout/etc. your own push. If you are relying on other people to do that work, you have to accept the process they use to keep that work manageable.
3095. # [22:35] <mbrubeck> mozilla-central is OPEN
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3097. # [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf5205662535 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 1591609139fd (bug 881841) for asserts on a CLOSED TREE.
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3099. # [22:35] <bjacob_> mbrubeck: i have no interest in spending the rest of my day doing that.
3100. # [22:36] <Gijs> Oh shoot.
3101. # [22:36] <tbsaunde> bjacob_: so if this was urgent why was it landing on inbound in the first place?
3102. # [22:36] <Gijs> mrbkap: so... let's say the node I'm trying to move has an iframe inside it (jetpack widget).
3103. # [22:36] <mbrubeck> bjacob_: Why is getting this on inbound today a requirement to get it into beta?
3104. # [22:36] <mbrubeck> inbound won't get it to nightly testers in a timely way...
3105. # [22:37] <Gijs> mrbkap: see the nsINode::DispatchDOMEvent a while up the stack?
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3107. # [22:37] <mbrubeck> Why not just land on beta? Or on m-c and beta?
3108. # [22:37] <Gijs> mrbkap: that's a DOMWindowCreated event.
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3110. # [22:37] <mbrubeck> Also, landing on beta has the same tree rules as landing on m-c....
3111. # [22:37] <gaston> no, the cset has to have baked on m-c & m-a first (-:
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3113. # [22:38] <RyanVM> (we typically require a patch to be on m-c before landing on release branches though we've made occasional exceptions to that rule in dire emergencies)
3114. # [22:38] <mrbkap> Gijs: out of curiosity, can you reproduce this without your patches?
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3116. # [22:39] <Gijs> mrbkap: no, the patches are what create the 'funny' situation. :(
3117. # [22:39] <mbrubeck> Ah, I lived through the days of constant simul-pushing to central/aurora/beta for the native Android re-write, so my expectations are screwy. :P
3118. # [22:39] <RyanVM> bjacob_: fine, just push already
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3120. # [22:39] <RyanVM> at least all known bustage is backed out
3121. # [22:40] <jesup|laptop> gaston: that's fine
3122. # [22:40] <Gijs> mrbkap: I could theoretically run a similar situation on m-c rather than UX, but most changes on UX are front-end... we track m-c pretty well.
3123. # [22:40] <mrbkap> Gijs: Yeah, I doubt this is related to the branch.
3124. # [22:40] <mib_bcuve6> Hello coders! The menuitems of my plugin disappear when I click on the navigation bar. Would it happen to somebody? (If I "paste and go" there is no problem)
3125. # [22:40] <Gijs> mrbkap: if you think it's worth it I can try to get a smaller-ish testcase but that may be difficult given that I now suspect it specifically has to do with how this stuff interacts with jetpack add-ons (with iframes).
3126. # [22:41] <mbrubeck> mib_bcuve6: Can you give some more details? What is "my plugin" -- is it an NPAPI plug-in you are writing, or some other sort of Firefox add-on?
3127. # [22:41] <gaston> jesup|laptop: ok great, just trying to make sure it doesnt make the merge too painful :)
3128. # [22:41] <mwu> does anyone know how to turn off hg phases
3129. # [22:42] <mwu> the suggestion in their docs doesn't seem to work
3130. # [22:42] <mbrubeck> mwu: There's https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer#Disable_hg_phases_with_a_post-push_hook
3131. # [22:42] <mwu> mbrubeck: thanks
3132. # [22:42] <mbrubeck> (that's for mq users; you can adapt it for other situations)
3133. # [22:43] <mib_bcuve6> mbrubeck sorry it's a extension I'm developing based on https://github.com/mfinkle/skeleton-addon-fxandroid
3134. # [22:43] <mwu> yeah that's my use case
3135. # [22:43] <RyanVM> really need releng to make Try a non-publishing repo
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3137. # [22:43] <mrbkap> Gijs: I'm not sure I'm going to be much help immediately here.
3138. # [22:43] <mfinkle> mib_bcuve6, what version of firefox android?
3139. # [22:43] <mbrubeck> Yeah, why didn't https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725362 get fixed when we upgraded hg.m.o?
3140. # [22:43] <RyanVM> bjacob_: If you want your patch to have any prayer of landing on m-c today still, you need to push to inbound sooner rather than later
3141. # [22:43] <Gijs> mrbkap: OK. I will poke at it tomorrow, assuming I can reproduce once I've pulled all the bustage fixes that were just discussed. :s
3142. # [22:44] <Gijs> mrbkap: so, second question, which is easier...
3143. # [22:44] <RyanVM> believe it or not, I don't work 24/7
3144. # [22:44] <mrbkap> Gijs: It sounds like somehow the mutation observers are allowing you to (re)move the iframe while it's running code further up the stack.
3145. # [22:44] <Gijs> Right, exactly.
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3148. # [22:45] <Gijs> mrbkap: so, for devtools we're wanting to create a XBL/anon-content aware treewalker that doesn't use stacks / cache entire children() lists... on its own.
3149. # [22:45] <Gijs> mrbkap: AFAICT that's currently difficult because when you have XBL/anon content, the node's prevSibling/nextSibling is totally useless.
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3154. # [22:45] <mrbkap> Gijs: But I don't know if that's a limitation of mutation observers (like, can you do the move on a setTimeout(0)?) or if the iframe needs to do that for you.
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3156. # [22:46] <Gijs> mrbkap: as far as I can tell, we do not currently have APIs that make that easy, either... do you know if that's coming and/or if my assessment is correct?
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3158. # [22:46] <mrbkap> Gijs: APIs available to what sorts of code?
3159. # [22:46] <mrbkap> Gijs: C++ or JS?
3160. # [22:46] <Gijs> I'd settle for C++, even.
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3162. # [22:46] <RyanVM> gavin: ping
3163. # [22:46] <Gijs> mrbkap: I couldn't find something that let me ask "get me the next node, including anon content"
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3166. # [22:47] <Gijs> mrbkap: only code that lets me get entire children lists, then find my node in there, then look what's next. That's O(n), so it seemed a little ugly...
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3171. # [22:48] <Gijs> mrbkap: I mean, if it's in JS, that's easier for me and probably others, but I'm happy to rewrite inDeepTreeWalker or make a clone of it that doesn't use a stack... but I didn't see APIs that really let me do what I wanted.
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3175. # [22:48] <mrbkap> Gijs: Why don't you want to use a stack?
3176. # [22:48] <@gavin> RyanVM: pong
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3178. # [22:49] <Gijs> mrbkap: memory concerns, I guess?
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3182. # [22:49] <Gijs> mrbkap: some www documents are pretty crazy in terms of child nodes, and our current devtools use the dom walker to avoid showing all of them immediately
3183. # [22:49] <RyanVM> gavin: I've said it's OK to push CLOSED TREE now that more tests are coming in on the intermediate pushes. I'm not getting a response. There's an updated patch attached in the bug. Do you want me to just push it?
3184. # [22:50] <Gijs> mrbkap: so they just take the first N, then show "there is more here" and then the last N.
3185. # [22:50] <RyanVM> I need to leave before too long, so I can't wait forever on a reply
3186. # [22:50] <mrbkap> Gijs: Yeah, that makes sense.
3187. # [22:51] <mrbkap> Gijs: So, I'm trying to get a patch landed that will introduce a FlattenedChildIterator, but I'm not sure if that is actually useful to you.
3188. # [22:51] <mrbkap> Gijs: Since I don't see an easy way of going from an iterator like that to *not* using a stack somewhere.
3189. # [22:52] <Gijs> mrbkap: so a flattened child iterator... does that flatten the XBL tree?
3190. # [22:52] <mrbkap> Gijs: Yes.
3191. # [22:52] <Gijs> mrbkap: and in what way, as in, will that iterate over descendants (ie non-direct-children) ?
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3193. # [22:52] <mrbkap> Gijs: You give it a node and it walks the "actual" child list, taking XBL into account.
3194. # [22:52] <@gavin> RyanVM: I don't think you need to worry about it, it's bjacob_'s responsibility
3195. # [22:52] <mrbkap> Gijs: That's the problem... it doesn't iterate over descendants, only direct children of the original node.
3196. # [22:52] <Gijs> Why is that a problem? :)
3197. # [22:52] <RyanVM> if it doesn't land in the next few minutes, it's very unlikely to get merged to m-c tonight
3198. # [22:52] <Gijs> For this case, that's OK. We can pick the children we want and manually iterate over their children again.
3199. # [22:52] <mrbkap> Gijs: I thought you needed to show a depth-first traversal?
3200. # [22:53] <mrbkap> Gijs: In which case you'd need a stack of iterators.
3201. # [22:53] <Gijs> Hrm.
3202. # [22:53] <bjacob_> RyanVM: was afk. can i push now?
3203. # [22:53] <Gijs> Yeah, true, I guess. Can we initialize the iterator with a certain child?
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3205. # [22:53] <RyanVM> yes
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3207. # [22:54] <Gijs> mrbkap: so basically go, I want to iterate over children from this node onwards/backwards ?
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3210. # [22:54] <mrbkap> Gijs: Right.
3211. # [22:54] <mrbkap> er
3212. # [22:54] <Gijs> mrbkap: that'd sort of give us what we want... but I'm not sure how complex that is in terms of the XBL implementation. It might just push the O(n) finding of the current node further down into the implementation?
3213. # [22:55] <mrbkap> Gijs: Wait, I'm not sure I understood that last thing.
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3215. # [22:55] <RyanVM> dammit, more inbound bustage
3216. # [22:55] <Gijs> mrbkap: OK. So let's say I have node A, with childnodes B-Z.
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3218. # [22:55] <Gijs> mrbkap: some of B-Z are anon, some not, whatever.
3219. # [22:55] <mrbkap> Sure.
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3221. # [22:55] <RyanVM> lol, awesome - the other OMG GET IT IN TODAY fix
3222. # [22:56] <mrbkap> So A has some binding "binding" that has a <content> element.
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3225. # [22:56] <khuey> RyanVM: well if it were ready it would have landed already, no?
3226. # [22:56] <Gijs> mrbkap: can I get a FlattenedChildIterator and initialize it/instantiate it with not just A as the parent from which I want children, but also saying "start iterating from node M" ?
3227. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34d230cab71c - Benoit Jacob - Bug 879172 - Recognize a device as Sony as soon as its Manufacturer string contains Sony as substring - r=joe, CLOSED TREE
3228. # [22:56] <Gijs> Or would I have to make the iterator walk until it found M?
3229. # [22:57] <Gijs> s/walk/GetNext()/, I guess
3230. # [22:57] <RyanVM> so, what are the odds this OMG NEEDS TO LAND TODAY fix written and reviewed by Europeans is going to be fixed in place
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3232. # [22:57] <mrbkap> Gijs: Yeah, that'd be O(N).
3233. # [22:57] <Gijs> mrbkap: yeah, and I guess it's going to be O(N) no matter how far down we push it, right? We just don't keep that info around anywhere?
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3235. # [22:58] <mrbkap> Gijs: Not really, no... Or, at least, not in a way that's useable for this purpose.
3236. # [22:58] <Gijs> mrbkap: id est, I think the structure we use deep down is some list which we index-access; and the nodes don't know their index?
3237. # [22:58] * Gijs pokes through his saved tabs from when he was looking at this
3238. # [22:58] <mrbkap> Gijs: Right. Basically the problem is that anonymous content isn't actually in a single list anywhere.
3239. # [22:59] <mrbkap> Gijs: So the nodes themselves don't actually know what their previous/next sibling actually is or should be.
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3241. # [23:00] <Gijs> mrbkap: Hmm.
3242. # [23:00] <Gijs> mrbkap: so I was looking at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/xbl/src/nsBindingManager.cpp#712 this weekend
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3245. # [23:00] <Gijs> mrbkap: is that table/list continuously current, and/or is that get relatively 'cheap' (as in, real get, not a "hey, let's build this list" thing)
3246. # [23:01] <mrbkap> Gijs: That's a simple hashtable lookup.
3247. # [23:01] <mrbkap> Gijs: Note that that code's hopefully going to change pretty dramatically soon with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653881
3248. # [23:02] <Gijs> mrbkap: OK. But will the original child list lookup still be pretty cheap?
3249. # [23:02] <mrbkap> Gijs: Yes.
3250. # [23:02] <Gijs> mrbkap: because what also scares me is that nsIContent::GetChildren, which we currently use, makes a copy of the list, AIUI.
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3252. # [23:03] <Gijs> mrbkap: in particular, this block: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/FragmentOrElement.cpp#668
3253. # [23:03] <mrbkap> Gijs: Yes, it does make a copy.
3254. # [23:03] <Gijs> mrbkap: OK. So how painful would it be to make nodes know about their next/prev siblings?
3255. # [23:04] <Gijs> mrbkap: from what you're saying, it sounds like that getting fixed is "pretty unlikely to happen", but I may be misjudging the situation...
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3259. # [23:05] <mrbkap> Gijs: hmm
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3262. # [23:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d172de3a2173 - Benoit Jacob - Bug 879172 - Recognize a device as Sony as soon as its Manufacturer string contains Sony as substring - r=joe, a=akeybl
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3264. # [23:05] <mrbkap> Gijs: I'm not a huge fan of adding that information to nodes...
3265. # [23:06] <Gijs> mrbkap: yeah, I mean, I want it for this devtools thing, but generally, I feel your hesitation I guess. :s
3266. # [23:06] <mrbkap> Gijs: Partly because the majority of nodes will never even set that information since they won't end up in special child lists at all.
3267. # [23:06] <mrbkap> Gijs: and then partly because there's exactly one usecase for this that I know of.
3268. # [23:07] <Gijs> mrbkap: I know very little about XBL, but I guess also that it's going to be a pain to keep it up to date?
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3270. # [23:07] <mrbkap> Gijs: For the moment, that shouldn't be too much of a concern, actually.
3271. # [23:07] <mrbkap> Gijs: XBL doesn't really "do" dynamic changes so much, so I don't think there's too much code that relies on it.
3272. # [23:07] <mrbkap> Gijs: But we're trying to fix that.
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3275. # [23:09] <Gijs> mrbkap: Hrm. Could we make the binding node keep track of this? Then we could only add the info we wanted, so it wouldn't take up as much extra space.
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3277. # [23:09] <dcamp> The FlattenedChildIterator sounds like it would be a big help at least.
3278. # [23:10] <mrbkap> Gijs: the binding node = the bound node?
3279. # [23:11] <Gijs> mrbkap: no. I mean, you said that most nodes won't need it. So I figured we could instead keep some kind of sparse linked list with the binding parent, and add a method to ask for the next/prev node?
3280. # [23:11] <Gijs> mrbkap: sucks as an API, but keeps the actual nodes more lightweight.
3281. # [23:11] * Gijs is OK with less elegant APIs over no APIs. :)
3282. # [23:11] <mrbkap> Gijs: So you'd still need a stack of these nodes.
3283. # [23:11] <mrbkap> Gijs: and at that point, you might as well keep a stack of iterators.
3284. # [23:11] <mrbkap> Gijs: They're pretty lightweight, fwiw.
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3286. # [23:12] <dcamp> fwiw, we don't actually use the depth-first traversal bits of walker - just parent/child/siblings
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3288. # [23:12] <Gijs> Mm, fair...
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3292. # [23:13] <mrbkap> Gijs: Also, in general, our rendering engine only supports displaying trees with some maximum depth.
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3294. # [23:13] <Gijs> mrbkap: I guess what I was proposing is having random access to that list, which it seems right now we don't really have (at least, not O(n).
3295. # [23:13] <Gijs> mrbkap: yeah, my concern re: number of child nodes was about breadth, not depth.
3296. # [23:13] <Gijs> sorry, I realize now that was totally unclear, I now also understand your question better. :s
3297. # [23:13] <mrbkap> Gijs: oh, but that's fine then.
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3300. # [23:14] <Gijs> mrbkap: I shouldn't feel guilty about allocating an n-thousand element list of child nodes? :)
3301. # [23:14] <Gijs> even if I only need 100 of them?
3302. # [23:14] <@gavin> anyone know offhand where window.onerror handlers get invoked?
3303. # [23:15] <mrbkap> Gijs: Well, FlattenedChildIterator doesn't have an internal child list.
3304. # [23:15] <Gijs> Hmmm.
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3306. # [23:15] <mrbkap> gavin: NS_ScriptErrorReporter I think.
3307. # [23:15] <mrbkap> Gijs: It simply walks the various child lists.
3308. # [23:15] <mrbkap> Gijs: Of course, it hasn't landed yet, but we're aiming to land it right after the next branch point.
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3310. # [23:16] <Gijs> mrbkap: wait, but does that get non-child descendants then?
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3313. # [23:16] <Gijs> sorry, I think I asked that before, didn't I?
3314. # [23:16] <mrbkap> Gijs: Non-child descendants?
3315. # [23:16] <@gavin> mrbkap: thanks
3316. # [23:16] <mrbkap> Gijs: It only goes one level deep -- to the children.
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3318. # [23:16] <Gijs> OK.
3319. # [23:16] <mrbkap> Gijs: It doesn't go any further down the tree.
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3322. # [23:17] <Gijs> mrbkap: OK, no, I guess normally when I think of flattening a tree, going down the tree and making a list is what it means.
3323. # [23:17] <Gijs> mrbkap: thanks for clarifying.
3324. # [23:17] <RyanVM> oh gee, even more android bustage
3325. # [23:17] <mrbkap> Gijs: yep
3326. # [23:17] <Gijs> (down as in further than just one level)
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3328. # [23:18] <Gijs> Anyway, cool... OK. So it sounds like we should wait for this iterator to land, and then figure out how best to use it to get what we want... :)
3329. # [23:18] <dcamp> mrbkap: so am I summarizing this right: FlattenedChildIterator will let us iterate all the children of a node, anonymous or otherwise. If we want a node somewhere in the middle we'll need to walk up to it, but that's just following a linked list.
3330. # [23:18] <mrbkap> Gijs: sounds good :)
3331. # [23:18] <dcamp> s/walk up/traverse up/
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3333. # [23:18] <mrbkap> dcamp: it's a little more complicated than that.
3334. # [23:18] <mrbkap> dcamp: But that's the basic idea, yeah.
3335. # [23:19] <Gijs> mrbkap: but we can't iterate backwards, correct?
3336. # [23:19] <dcamp> cool, thanks. (can it go backward?)
3337. # [23:19] <dcamp> heh
3338. # [23:19] <Gijs> heh.
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3340. # [23:19] <mrbkap> dcamp: It's following a linked list, and then some nodes (<children> elements) require us to do some special magic.
3341. # [23:19] <dcamp> mrbkap: right
3342. # [23:19] <mrbkap> dcamp: It can go backwards.
3343. # [23:19] <mrbkap> Gijs: ^--
3344. # [23:19] <dcamp> that sounds like it'll get us a long way.
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3346. # [23:19] <dcamp> thanks
3347. # [23:19] <Gijs> Yeah, that should help a lot. Thanks for letting us pick your brain on this! :)
3348. # [23:19] <mrbkap> Yep! :)
3349. # [23:20] <dcamp> Gijs: I'm encouraged.
3350. # [23:20] <dcamp> mrbkap: one more dumb question; is there any way to detect that we're on a boundary that needs special magic?
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3353. # [23:21] <mrbkap> dcamp: If the current node is an <xbl:children> node then it requires special magic.
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3355. # [23:21] <dcamp> mrbkap: otherwise we can trust previousSibling/nextSibling?
3356. # [23:22] <dcamp> I should learn xbl better. If that question doesn't make sense, don't worry about it :)
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3360. # [23:22] <mrbkap> dcamp: Not quite because the node your on might be a child of a node that had a binding applied.
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3362. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43fd73efefca - Kai Engert - Bug 881841, update to NSS_3_15_1_BETA1, r=wtc
3363. # [23:23] <mrbkap> dcamp: so imagine that I have <binding id="b"><content><a></a><children /><d/></content></binding> and <span style="-moz-binding: url(#b)"><b/><c/></span>
3364. # [23:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a259e4b7d9ab - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 9c6f5f334a15 (bug 880042) for mochitest-4 failures.
3365. # [23:24] <mrbkap> dcamp: When you're iterating the children of the span, you'll first see <a/> whose next child is a <children> (which means you'd have to descend into it) but then <c/>'s next child is null, even though you still have to find <d/>.
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3367. # [23:25] <dcamp> mrbkap: ok, yeah.
3368. # [23:25] <gaston> whohoooo didnt notice nss & nspr finally migrated to hg \o/
3369. # [23:26] <sfink> time for us to switch everything else to git, then
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3378. # [23:35] <@smaug> grr
3379. # [23:35] <@smaug> why is running tests made so difficutl
3380. # [23:35] <@smaug> difficult even
3381. # [23:36] <@smaug> well, not running, but debugging
3382. # [23:36] <Gijs> in a debugger, how do I ask an nsTArray for its first element?
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3385. # [23:36] * Gijs tried reading the nsTArray header file and just became confused. :(
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3387. # [23:37] <@ehsan> Gijs: p arr.ElementAt(0)
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3390. # [23:38] <@gavin> billm: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=838577
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3401. # [23:45] <billm> gavin: thanks
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3404. # [23:48] <romaxa> khuey: ted: it took 68min to rebuild tree (no clobber but with core files changed), -j4, i7-3920XM, 16GB-RAM, 4 cores
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3407. # [23:48] <jdm> smaug: what's difficult? I find it quite nice with mach
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3414. # [23:50] <@smaug> jdm: well, let's say in other words that the old ways are rather broken
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3417. # [23:51] <jdm> I'm surprised
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3419. # [23:51] <Fallen> romaxa: I think you can go higher on an i7. Last I read the -j flag should be 1.5 − 2.0 x number of cpu cores, then you can decide if you want to count virtual cores too
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3422. # [23:51] <Fallen> I think I have -j12 in my config, I couldn't tell you the times without checking though
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3429. # [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cd634aafced6 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 711043 - Factor out operator type checks from the middle of feMorphology loop. r=roc,a=bajaj
3430. # [23:55] <jlebar> Okay, throwing this out into the ether: I'm trying to implement a logging module that you can dynamically enable/disable by filename.
3431. # [23:55] <jlebar> What I'd like is a compile-time hash of __FILE__
3432. # [23:56] <jlebar> So that then I can use this to index into a bloom filter indicating which files are enabled for logging.
3433. # [23:56] <jlebar> But assuming I can't get that -- which seems very hard without C++11 -- I'm trying to come up with a fast, thread-safe way of calculating and storing this hash.
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3435. # [23:57] <jlebar> And short of using a mutex on every LOG() call, or short of having a lot of TLS, I'm out of idea
3436. # [23:57] <jlebar> *s
3437. # [23:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a346d1818e86 - Wes Johnston - Bug 874401 - Add a missing image file. r=mfinkle CLOSED TREE
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3441. # [23:59] <Mook_as> Assuming the hash of a constant string isn't going to change, why would you care about races?
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3444. # [23:59] <jlebar> Mook_as: Good question:
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