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- # Session Start: Wed Jun 12 00:00:00 2013
- # Session Ident: #developers
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- # [00:00] <jlebar> Mook_as: Actually, I think that's the right question. If I can fit my hashes into 32 bits, then I don't care about races.
- # [00:00] <jlebar> And I think I can fit it in there.
- # [00:01] <jlebar> Mook_as: Hooray. Thanks. :)
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- # [00:02] <Mook_as> yay! you're welcome.
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- # [00:06] <rillian> philor: do you know what's up with the osx build failure on my m-c push?
- # [00:06] <rillian> it looks like a different backtrace to Bug 774844
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- # [00:08] <rillian> I guess it's failing in the same place. I've respun.
- # [00:10] <philor> rillian: I'd guess so, but I haven't actually looked at one of those failures for the last 100 or so times
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- # [00:12] <philor> the only thing we ever do with it is get 12 people to say "why on earth do we even still run this?" and either 1 or 2 to say "it showed me something on a try run once upon a time"
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- # [00:15] <@ehsan> inbound's closed :(
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- # [00:17] <philor> I'm not sure we've made enough work for RyanVM's after-dinner volunteer shift, though, we should probably open up Cypress by pushing something that's actually into the start of the bustage there, and then pushing a bunch of bustage on top of it
- # [00:17] <philor> with merge conflicts, of course, no sense pushing things that don't conflict
- # [00:18] <rillian> bbiab
- # [00:18] <@ehsan> well, cypress doesn't help me, cause I don't have a checkout
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- # [00:18] <@ehsan> and I'm not going to clone it ;)
- # [00:18] <jhammel> for a moment, i thought philor was making international stragetic coups apropos Cyprus
- # [00:18] <catlee> copy birch and then pull cypress
- # [00:18] <catlee> err, inbound
- # [00:18] <@ehsan> catlee: I don't have a clone of birch
- # [00:18] <@ehsan> oh
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- # [00:19] <@ehsan> doesn't inbound have more commits in it?
- # [00:19] <philor> yeah, this was one of the reasons why I doubted inbound2 was going to work
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- # [00:19] <catlee> ehsan: hg strip "outgoing()"
- # [00:19] <philor> unbundle cypress
- # [00:19] <catlee> after messing with paths
- # [00:19] <philor> get a connection
- # [00:20] <@ehsan> catlee: that's neat!
- # [00:20] <@ehsan> still, I try to resist it as much as possible :)
- # [00:20] <@ehsan> but it's a nice hg trick to learn
- # [00:20] <catlee> it's waaaay faster
- # [00:20] <catlee> than cloning a whole repo
- # [00:20] <@ehsan> yeah
- # [00:20] <@ehsan> well
- # [00:21] <@ehsan> last time I actually tried cloning central it never finished iirc
- # [00:21] <@ehsan> and I haven't retried since then
- # [00:21] <@ehsan> so it's not only a matter of way faster, it's a matter of being possible!
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- # [00:21] <catlee> m-c is definitely clonable
- # [00:22] <@ehsan> maybe that was a one time fluke
- # [00:22] <catlee> and yeah, there are bundles if you want to speed things up
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- # [00:22] <mconnor> catlee: bundles don't speed much up, honestly
- # [00:22] <catlee> mconnor: depends on your network
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- # [00:22] <philor> whee, late-breaking bustage down in the "I just finished after 2 hours of running" zone
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- # [00:23] <mconnor> catlee: honestly? not that I've seen. the size of the bundle means it still takes forever. wget handles network resumes better than hg clone though, so there is that.
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- # [00:23] <catlee> mconnor: latency
- # [00:23] <mconnor> catlee: I will admit I haven't cloned on a crappy connection in Asia
- # [00:24] <mconnor> catlee: but nowhere in North America, including incredibly poor hotel/Starbucks wifi, has cloning not been faster
- # [00:24] <romaxa> Fallen: khuey: ted: it still something wrong... it took 40minutes for pymake -f client.mk build_all after no change and with -j14, on linux it take 15 seconds....
- # [00:24] <catlee> mconnor: you can also save bundles for later use locally
- # [00:25] <catlee> mconnor: bundles enable plenty of people in europe to actually get a working copy of m-c
- # [00:25] <catlee> a full clone times out otherwise
- # [00:25] <mconnor> catlee: plausible
- # [00:25] <mconnor> catlee: we need a mirror in AMS or something
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- # [00:26] <romaxa> most of the time CPU utilization over all processors 5-20%... and it seems most of the time it wait for something python
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- # [00:36] * NeilAway idly wonders which os and editor secretrobotron uses
- # [00:37] <secretrobotron> mac, sublimbe
- # [00:37] <secretrobotron> or something
- # [00:37] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: what is GetTrackMap supposed to return for an empty DOM stream?
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- # [00:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/366114b62435 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 870794. Back out patch for bug 859093. a=akeybl
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- # [00:44] <secretrobotron> ehsan: it will be empty..?
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- # [00:44] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: nm, there were a bunch of crashes which I fixed. I'll submit the fix as a patch on top of yours
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- # [00:44] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: your code is probably going to change significantly anyways, but that patch might be useful
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- # [00:44] <secretrobotron> :D
- # [00:44] <secretrobotron> hooray!
- # [00:45] <secretrobotron> i'm excited to see what you changed
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- # [00:47] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: https://bug856361.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=761199
- # [00:47] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: pretty boring stuff
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- # [00:47] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: oh, and in other news, MediaElementAudioSourceNode seems to work just fine ;)
- # [00:48] <secretrobotron> yay!
- # [00:48] <secretrobotron> :D
- # [00:48] <MattN> snorp: your patch works
- # [00:48] <philor> whee, and there's another backout that didn't solve what it was supposed to solve
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- # [00:52] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: if you're at the office, you're welcome to see a demo!
- # [00:52] <NeilAway> secretrobotron: then how on earth did you get DOS line endings?
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- # [00:53] <jld> lazyweb, suggestions for ARM-based devices that can run a stock Linux kernel? (i.e., not a vendor branch that diverged $BIGNUM releases ago)
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- # [00:55] <NeilAway> ehsan: did you manage to find WinDbg in the Windows SDK?
- # [00:55] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I gave up!
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- # [00:55] <NeilAway> ehsan: well that's the simplest way I know
- # [00:56] <@ehsan> hehe, true
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- # [00:56] <NeilAway> ehsan: also useful if you have a debug build, because you can install the Windows 7.1 SDK which includes the VC2010 debug CRT
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- # [00:57] <secretrobotron> NeilAway: i just... i have no idea
- # [00:57] <secretrobotron> i blame you.
- # [00:57] <@ehsan> good point
- # [00:57] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: so you have a bug in your patch, where if the stream is paused, the sound output continues for a while...
- # [00:57] <secretrobotron> ahhhhhhh yes
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- # [00:58] <@ehsan> I'll attach a test case based on my patch
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- # [00:58] <secretrobotron> excellent
- # [00:58] <NeilAway> of course if you're not actually going to build, you can deselect all the headers and libraries and tools and stuff
- # [00:58] <secretrobotron> if a stream is paused, do the input tracks produce nothing?
- # [00:58] <@ehsan> but it's easy to test if you just pause the audio element, since I'm just using MozCaptureStream under the hoods
- # [00:58] <@ehsan> secretrobotron: I haven't debugged it, cause I figured you're going to be changing this code anyways
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- # [01:00] <tbsaunde> jld: I think mjrosenb uses ubuntu on a chrome book, so that might work?
- # [01:01] <NeilAway> bz: is the CSS rule :root:not([foo]) #bar { /* ... */ } optimised in any way?
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- # [01:02] <jld> tbsaunde: Maybe. I already have a SheevaPlug (somewhere...), and there's always qemu.
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- # [01:02] <jld> tbsaunde: Context is that I feel as if I should actually test kernel changes against master before trying to send them upstream.
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- # [01:04] <fryn> NeilAway: since the right-most selector is an ID, it should be fast even though you may have to search upward for the root.
- # [01:04] <fryn> NeilAway: ignore me if you're actually working on the selector engine, not just using that selector. :P
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- # [01:05] <philor> so, who likes https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/149475141471 for linux mochitest-4?
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- # [01:08] <philor> and for that matter, for linux browser-chrome
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- # [01:22] <@ehsan> I'm backing out 149475141471
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- # [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2b548b65cf0 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 149475141471 (bug 877626) for apparently breaking mochitest-4 on Linux
- # [01:24] <@ehsan> given the try results posted in that bug, I think we're safe to reopen
- # [01:24] <@ehsan> philor: do you agree?
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- # [01:25] <philor> ehsan: dunno, I'm looking at android build bustage in a push that was supposed to be the first successfully android build in, what, 10 or 20 pushes?
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- # [01:25] <@ehsan> huh
- # [01:26] <@ehsan> let me take a look
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- # [01:26] <@ehsan> ../../dist/include/nsCharTraits.h:604:39: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
- # [01:26] <@ehsan> super!
- # [01:27] <philor> ehsan: also, linux browser-chrome is busted, and the try results for that one don't show it being to blame
- # [01:27] <reyre_> i'm having trouble pushing to try for some reason -- all of a sudden it started complaining that the permissions on my public key were bad. i changed them and now it's not accepting my password...
- # [01:27] <@ehsan> philor: on which push?
- # [01:27] <@ehsan> reyre_: see /topic
- # [01:27] <philor> conveniently, busted in the "I'll just take two hours to fizzle out, so my bustage will be way down below where you're looking" way
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- # [01:28] <philor> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=%28ubuntu|fedora%29.*browser-chrome
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- # [01:28] <reyre_> ehsan: /topic where? :S sorry i'm new to this
- # [01:29] <philor> so... dunno quite which
- # [01:29] <@ehsan> reyre_: the channel topic :)
- # [01:29] <@ehsan> reyre_: bug 880740
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- # [01:30] <philor> ehsan: hmm, about:healthreport showing a "Secure Connection Failed" for example.com, sec_error_invalid_args, no clue what that means
- # [01:31] <@ehsan> philor: NSS update?
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- # [01:31] <tbsaunde> jesup: are the window ids in the webrtc video engine stuff inner windows or outer?
- # [01:31] <@ehsan> philor: maybe it's adding an intermittent failure path?
- # [01:31] <philor> ehsan: yeah, I'm going to be really interested in the runs while it was backed out, all except for the fact that it was needs-clobber so the backout may or may not be pure
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- # [01:32] <@ehsan> what? it was backed out?
- # [01:32] <@ehsan> haha
- # [01:32] <@ehsan> I'm clearly new at this game ;)
- # [01:32] <@ehsan> so I guess we just need to wait and see if the browser-chrome failure clears up
- # [01:33] <philor> nope, backed out and then relanded with a clobber
- # [01:33] <@ehsan> oh
- # [01:33] <@ehsan> wwell, I'll be damned!
- # [01:33] <philor> yeah, the multipush pileups these days are all sorts of fun
- # [01:33] <reyre_> ehsan: okay thanks
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- # [01:34] <@ehsan> philor: about the android build bustage, I don't have any great ideas... I retrigered the build
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- # [01:35] <philor> I think there's a gcc 4.7 bug that followed on from the 4.5 PGO bug that has maybe expanded enough to cover it, not sure since I haven't actually read it since it was a little baby continuation bug
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- # [01:38] <tbsaunde> philor: have a failure log? I'll be interested in the retrigger
- # [01:39] * tbsaunde suspects the gcc 4.7 linux pgo bug is bad hardware
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- # [01:43] <philor> tbsaunde: bug 873667, you've seen it
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- # [01:43] <philor> and suspected bad hardware :)
- # [01:44] <tbsaunde> philor: no, I meant the android log
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- # [01:44] <philor> tbsaunde: oh, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24030386&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [01:45] <philor> bad ec2 VMs, and different ones every time, ugh
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- # [01:47] <vlad> huh, bad hardware seems aggressive
- # [01:47] <vlad> but who knows
- # [01:48] <tbsaunde> vlad: I'd love to hear other theories
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- # [01:49] <vlad> I dunno, just whenever I've blamed things on the compiler or on hardware historically, it's never been the hardware, and only very rarely the compiler :)
- # [01:49] <tbsaunde> especially since I have no idea how to prove it is in fact bad hardware or what we could do about it if it is
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- # [01:50] <mbrubeck> It's a good thing we pushed all this stuff to inbound to today so it can get into beta ASAP.
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- # [01:51] <mbrubeck> ha, is there an XSS in TBPL through the log summary?
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- # [01:52] <mbrubeck> e.g. https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=a259e4b7d9ab&jobname=Ubuntu%20VM%2012.04%20mozilla-inbound%20debug%20test%20mochitest-4 and click on the 4*
- # [01:52] <mbrubeck> I feel like this was displaying correctly earlier today... maybe something in edmorley's tbpl deployment today?
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- # [01:53] <KWierso|Home> mbrubeck: yikes
- # [01:54] <KWierso|Home> mbrubeck: mention that over in #ateam ?
- # [01:54] <jgilbert> !seen dveditz
- # [01:54] <mbrubeck> ok
- # [01:55] <firebot> dveditz was last seen 2 hours, 46 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying 'mgoodwin: 90% or more sure you'll be in Brussels given proximity' in #security.
- # [01:55] <philor> mbrubeck: old
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- # [01:55] <mbrubeck> philor: Well, that's good (?)
- # [01:55] <philor> rarely hit, because come on, who looks at already-starred things? :)
- # [01:56] <mbrubeck> oh, that's why I'm seeing different display for the same push
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- # [01:57] <philor> bug 712212
- # [01:57] * mbrubeck plans to start making tests that fail with errors like TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | <img src="http://limpet.net/mbrubeck/images/robocop.jpg">
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- # [02:00] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694209#c0 where I was picturing test failure messages along the lines of Little Bobby Tables
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- # [02:01] <djvj> did somebody take a hatchet to m-i?
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- # [02:02] <mbrubeck> Many people did.
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- # [02:02] <mbrubeck> browsers is hard, let's go fix HTML escaping bugs in tbpl
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- # [02:03] <mbrubeck> patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712212
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- # [02:04] <mbrubeck> d'oh, patch breaks the unstarred case
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- # [02:06] <mbrubeck> oh awesome, we are actually *expecting* HTML from the server
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- # [02:07] * philor carefully doesn't mention any reason why he hasn't ever fixed that bug
- # [02:07] <philor> I probably forgot about it or something
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- # [02:16] <mbrubeck> Patch updated, now with more PHP
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- # [02:19] <philor> oh, those browser-chrome failures are pretty clear "NSS updates don't go well when they don't touch security/nss/coreconf/coreconf.dep," I just got thrown off by the Fedora-debug, Ubuntu-opt thing
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- # [02:21] <@gavin> how many b-c runs will I need to triggr to hit 861700
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- # [02:23] <philor> I'd bet on catching it within 20 each of Win7 opt and 10.8 opt
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- # [02:24] <philor> convenient because those are pretty fast b-c platforms, inconvenient because they're horrible slow build platforms
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- # [02:29] <@gavin> philor: I've got my builds already :)
- # [02:29] <philor> \o/
- # [02:30] <@gavin> I think I started with about 10 of each to start, we'll see how that goes
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- # [02:31] <philor> mbrubeck: you know how you've always said you really wanted to touch something in NSS? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881841#c7
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- # [02:31] <mbrubeck> umm, yeah... I'm pretty sure I've always said that?
- # [02:32] <philor> it was either you, or a fever dream, one or the other
- # [02:32] * mbrubeck starts pulling from inbound...
- # [02:33] <mbrubeck> Oh, I get to add a blank line? whee!
- # [02:34] <philor> just wait until the next landing which will also fail to touch it, maybe you can be the one to remove a blank line, too!
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- # [02:36] <mbrubeck> There was a time when I would have pushed this whitespace-only change with DONTBUILD
- # [02:36] <mbrubeck> not so daring these days
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- # [02:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eeb959ae733f - Matt Brubeck - Bug 881841 - Touch nss/coreconf/coreconf.dep to prevent dep builds from breaking on a CLOSED TREE
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- # [02:50] <RyanVM> dramadramadramadramadramadramadrama
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- # [02:51] <RyanVM> guess I'll reland bug 880042
- # [02:52] <RyanVM> oh gee, look
- # [02:52] <RyanVM> green android x86
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- # [02:56] <RyanVM> i saw!
- # [02:56] <RyanVM> good thing it's 9pm and I'm on bonus time :D
- # [02:56] <jwalden> heh
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- # [03:14] <jesup|laptop> Fire in the hole, guys....
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- # [03:15] <jesup|laptop> ok, not really
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- # [03:47] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: ping
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- # [03:47] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: oh no. pong
- # [03:48] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: just curious about bug 867226
- # [03:48] <RyanVM> it's marked leave open
- # [03:48] <RyanVM> does something need doing there still?
- # [03:48] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: yeah, there's a WIP patch still to be finished
- # [03:48] <RyanVM> ok, what should we do with the status flags for 22/23?
- # [03:48] <RyanVM> can we call them fixed at this point?
- # [03:48] <mattwoodrow> they can be marked as fixed
- # [03:49] <mattwoodrow> the crash should be gone, I'd just like us to have better fallback behaviour
- # [03:49] <RyanVM> ok, I'll leave 24 set to affected
- # [03:49] <RyanVM> thanks :)
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- # [03:53] <RyanVM> mwu: b2g18 orange :(
- # [03:53] <mwu> RyanVM: looking
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- # [04:18] <@gavin> does some of content/media need a new module?
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- # [04:18] <Unfocused> doublec: run
- # [04:19] <jcranmer> jwalden: I have a pedantic streak to me
- # [04:19] <jwalden> jcranmer: :-)
- # [04:19] <jwalden> *I* think it's good to know :-)
- # [04:19] <jcranmer> I don't mind being stricter than necessary
- # [04:20] <jcranmer> but I don't want you to claim something is undefined when it's not
- # [04:20] <jwalden> quite true
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- # [04:20] * jwalden certainly never remembers the rules for % in JS as regards its edge cases
- # [04:20] <RyanVM> mwu: any luck?
- # [04:20] <jcranmer> jwalden: oh, that's easy
- # [04:20] <jcranmer> it's floating point
- # [04:21] <jwalden> C/C++ are simpler in that regard, certainly, but still have their tricky points
- # [04:21] <jcranmer> so NaN or infinity all the way
- # [04:21] <jwalden> jcranmer: there's still the sign consideration and all
- # [04:21] <jld> Is there a case that yields -0.0?
- # [04:21] <mwu> RyanVM: hmmm
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- # [04:22] <mwu> RyanVM: oh I made a dumb mistake while porting the patch to b2g18...
- # [04:22] <RyanVM> the best kind :)
- # [04:22] <philor> 'Cannot start media channels; cause = OK'
- # [04:22] <philor> okay
- # [04:23] <jcranmer> When y ≠0, the remainder r = remainder(x, y) is defined for finite x and y regardless of the
- # [04:23] <jld> (Yes, yes there is a -0. And it even almost makes sense.)
- # [04:23] <jcranmer> rounding-direction attribute by the mathematical relation r = x − y × n , where n is the integer nearest
- # [04:23] <jcranmer> the exact number x/y ; whenever | n − x/y | = ½ , then n is even. Thus, the remainder is always exact.
- # [04:23] <jcranmer> If r = 0, its sign shall be that of x. remainder(x, ∞) is x for finite x.
- # [04:23] <jcranmer> [quoting IEEE 754]
- # [04:23] <jwalden> jld: -0 % 1
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- # [04:24] <jld> jwalden: Also -1 % 1. (-:
- # [04:25] <jwalden> you asked for *a* case :-P
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- # [04:46] <philor> can I change fails-if() and skip-if() to technical-debt()?
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- # [04:47] <rnewman> philor: r+
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- # [04:47] <rnewman> my personal favorite is all of our "temporarily disabled" log messages
- # [04:47] <rnewman> which have been disabled for five years
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- # [04:48] <@dbaron> many of the -if() conditions mean we still have most of the test coverage, when something is testing cross-platform code but there's some platform-specific quirk that gets in the way of the test
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- # [05:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e856b38719c1 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 880925 - Flush layout when caretPositionFromPoint is called. r=bz
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- # [05:32] <philor> oh, hey, that'll be even more fun, since it requires marking 222 tests as random-if(b2g), merge that around every trunk tree, switch over to running them on VMs, then switch all those random-ifs to fails-ifs
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- # [05:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9f80387acd7 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 9f76571216ff (bug 880650) for test failures
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- # [05:47] <jesup|tab> Anyone in the MV office who could let me in?
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- # [05:49] <reuben> jesup|tab: where are you?
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- # [05:50] <jesup|tab> Anyone? I want to give a employee who's never seen the office a tour
- # [05:51] <reuben> jesup|tab: are you outside of the building?
- # [05:51] * reuben wonders if jesup's IRC client is tx only right now
- # [05:52] * philor wonders whether he can get jesup backed out before he can get inside the building
- # [05:52] <reuben> lol
- # [05:53] <jesup|tab> We're down the street at Steak Out
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- # [05:53] <jesup|tab> Philor: uh oh....
- # [05:54] <jesup|tab> Was looking green a bit ago
- # [05:54] <philor> jesup|tab: Android mochitest-4, though tbpl and/or buildbot are being weird about not showing all the permaorange just yet
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- # [05:55] <jesup|tab> Hmmmm.... if that's the only problem it's not so bad
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- # [05:56] <jesup|tab> Reuben - can you let us in in about 5 min?
- # [05:56] <reuben> jesup|tab: sure, I'm heading to the office to get my flash drive anyway
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- # [06:16] <philor> and a b2g failure for baku|away
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- # [06:16] <philor> one more and I can clear out that entire push
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- # [06:17] <heycam> I just went to update my Nightly on Android, and I get a "Complete action with" dialog with two options: "Package installer" and "Verify and install"
- # [06:17] <heycam> anyone know what that's about?
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- # [06:18] <philor> who was it that decided we should encourage ourselves to only build debug on try?
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- # [06:19] <philor> I'd like to... discuss that idea with them
- # [06:19] <glob> heycam, that's normal android stuff when you have multiple apps installs which can handle the same request
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- # [06:20] <heycam> glob, yeah, figured that it was the same kind of thing as when you open a mailto: link or whatever. strange that I might have multiple programs that support installing packages, though...
- # [06:20] <heycam> the "Package installer" choice seemed to work fine
- # [06:21] * glob suspects it's a play store update doing that
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- # [06:57] <philor> not again!
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- # [07:10] <philor> odd how natural and inevitable they feel
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- # [07:11] <philor> but we made it almost 3 hours that time!
- # [07:11] <philor> not counting any touches of /CLOBBER that might have come in between
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- # [08:56] <philor> markh: did you break something?
- # [08:57] <markh> sounds like I might have...
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- # [08:57] <markh> philor: bugger, yep, that will be me
- # [08:58] <Ms2ger> And out you go
- # [08:58] * Ms2ger uses the opportunity to sneak into m-c
- # [08:58] <markh> where I stop, nobody knows...
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- # [08:59] <heycam> new webkit dev tools shows layers and why elements are layerised: http://cl.ly/PYPf
- # [08:59] <markh> Ms2ger: you backing it out, or you want me to?
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- # [09:00] <Ms2ger> You do it, please :)
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- # [09:00] <markh> ok :)
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- # [09:00] <philor> markh: already did, it was still before midnight
- # [09:00] <markh> philor: you rock, thanks :)
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- # [09:01] <nrc> heycam: cool
- # [09:01] * markh got as far as typing "hg help backout" :)
- # [09:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38c7ebb16a97 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 57bb160f49d5:4e6b16f0d753 (bug 875157) for breaking master password tests
- # [09:01] <philor> wups, hg.m.o thinks I went 37 seconds past my time limit, but close
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- # [09:02] <Ms2ger> Good night, then, philor? :)
- # [09:02] <philor> night
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- # [10:50] <annevk> bz_away: so I find https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22321 very confusing :-)
- # [10:50] <annevk> Ms2ger: any idea?
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- # [10:56] <Ms2ger> annevk, no, *you're* confusing ;)
- # [10:57] <annevk> Ms2ger: go left
- # [10:57] <Ms2ger> See?
- # [10:58] <annevk> Ms2ger: you've been eaten by a grue
- # [10:58] <Ms2ger> Nooooooooooo :(
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- # [11:00] <Ms2ger> So what's the question?
- # [11:01] <annevk> I don't really get how bz_away wants it rewritten
- # [11:01] <annevk> I guess I'll try to do a rewrite and put it in the bug
- # [11:01] <Ms2ger> Maybe something more like the code he suggested in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814090#c8
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- # [11:04] <steve> hi guys. there's a minimal windows embedding test in mozilla/embedding/tests/winEmbed. Is there a linux equivalent somewhere ?
- # [11:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/72ccd2cc8ff4 - Nicolas Silva - Bug 875211 - Make the number of temporary compositor textures dynamic. r=bjacob
- # [11:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fc683007248 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 850571 - Remove temporary diagnostic code. r=me
- # [11:08] <steve> hmmm : this says GtkEmbed should be around somewhere : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko/Embedding_Mozilla/Roll_your_own_browser
- # [11:08] <@smaug> or was GtkEmbed removed
- # [11:09] <@smaug> romaxa would know most about embedding, I think
- # [11:10] <@smaug> you could ask #embedlite
- # [11:10] <Ms2ger> I'm not sure I'd make a lot of assumptions based on documentation here
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- # [11:10] <@smaug> yeah
- # [11:11] <@smaug> e10s does use many embedding APIs
- # [11:11] * edmorley seems to recall the last major embedding thread on the newsgroups turned into a bit of a circus
- # [11:12] <Ms2ger> A bit?
- # [11:12] <steve> yay :P
- # [11:12] <steve> thanks for the pointers
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- # [11:13] <Ms2ger> Good luck
- # [11:13] <edmorley> Ms2ger: usual British understatement ;-)
- # [11:13] <steve> cheers. guess there'll be something around on the interwebs I can fix up. the API hasn't changed much recently (thankfully)
- # [11:14] <Ms2ger> I wouldn't have known
- # [11:14] <edmorley> Ms2ger: :P
- # [11:14] <@smaug> steve: well, you should ask #embedlite. There is another API being developed
- # [11:14] <Ms2ger> The bookmarks m-rc tests seem somewhat flaky, from the bugs being suggested
- # [11:14] <@smaug> which let's one to run gecko in a separate process and all
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- # [11:15] <Ms2ger> edmorley, and I *was* starring that ;)
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- # [12:29] <Gijs> I'm trying to debug a JS crash where AFAICT there's some JS which triggers a load which triggers some events which trigger a mutation observer. When I'm paused just before the mutation observer callback is called, running DumpJSStack() gives me no stack at all; when I stop closer to the crash, there's only the mutation observer's stack.
- # [12:29] <Gijs> Is there some way to figure out which functions are being called in the js::Invoke frames?
- # [12:30] <Gijs> I've been poking around but, not being familiar with the JS implementation, I'm not finding what I'm looking for... :(
- # [12:31] <Ms2ger> Sounds like you want #jsapi
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- # [13:50] <fossterer> Heyy... Can someone explain what this bug is about?
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- # [13:54] <jfkthame> you'll have to walk fast
- # [13:54] <Ms2ger> Heh
- # [13:54] <Ms2ger> I'll just hurry to the nearest volcano and wait there
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- # [15:05] <RyanVM> baku: ready to give bug 856410 another shot at inbound?
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- # [15:11] <SDUP> why remove Set*() (like SetValIsArray) methods in nsXPTCVariant ?
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- # [15:15] <gaston> (on the client side i mean)
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- # [15:26] <SDUP> how am i supposed to set an XPTCVariant as an array (or other) type ?
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- # [15:33] <baku> RyanVM, yep
- # [15:34] <baku> RyanVM, I think we are ready
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- # [15:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58df50e6b861 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 856410 - Implement futures - Part 0: ErrorResult::StealJSException. r=bz
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- # [15:50] <nical> bjacob_: so
- # [15:50] <bjacob_> nical: #gfx even?
- # [15:50] <nical> d'oh
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- # [15:50] <bjacob_> nical: it's ok, you live in a continent plagued by a pretty deep monetary crisis, i can understand
- # [15:51] <nical> bjacob_: yeah that explains everything
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- # [16:02] <till> Ms2ger: it wants you to use dxr
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- # [16:02] <Ms2ger> That's even worse
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- # [16:22] <Ms2ger> What's that?
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- # [16:26] <gfritzsche> the "right" formatter for printf() etc.: int32_t i=...; printf("%"PRI32d, i);
- # [16:26] <Ms2ger> Probably not
- # [16:26] <froydnj> gfritzsche: we might be able to use <inttypes.h> now that our MSVC is sane
- # [16:26] <Ms2ger> I think there's been talk about it, and probably a bug too
- # [16:27] <Ms2ger> froydnj, can we use stdint now?
- # [16:27] <froydnj> Ms2ger: yes
- # [16:27] <Ms2ger> Did you say "yes"?
- # [16:27] <gaston> orly ?
- # [16:27] <froydnj> indeed I did
- # [16:27] <gaston> can we do the happy dance ?
- # [16:27] * Ms2ger does the happy dance with gaston
- # [16:27] <gaston> \o_ _o?
- # [16:27] <gaston> DIE DIE OLD MSVC
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- # [16:28] <gfritzsche> froydnj: oh, are we on vc 2012 already?
- # [16:28] <gaston> stdint.h everywhere \o/
- # [16:28] <ekr> froydnj: anything else we can now use? Like maybe <functional>?
- # [16:28] <froydnj> gfritzsche: we are requiring 2010, which AIUI has stdint.h
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- # [16:29] <Ms2ger> ekr, functional C++? Hah
- # [16:29] <gfritzsche> froydnj: it doesn't have it as far as i can tell :(
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- # [16:29] <ekr> Ms2ger: I didn't say functional C++. I just want to use #include <functional>.
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- # [16:29] <froydnj> ekr: I think STL headers are sort of at-the-discretion-of-code-owners
- # [16:29] <froydnj> ekr: but IANACO
- # [16:30] <Yoric> Well, C++ is the language of choice for the discriminate functional hacker, isn't it?
- # [16:30] <Yoric> (at least some years)
- # [16:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3d315019c47 - Paul Feher - Bug 878587 - Fixes for testMasterPassword to diminish intermittent-failures caused by slow devices. r=jmaher
- # [16:30] <froydnj> or IANASR
- # [16:30] <froydnj> Yoric: indeed =/
- # [16:30] <Ms2ger> Generally frowned upon
- # [16:30] <Ms2ger> By me, at least
- # [16:31] <ekr> froydnj: This is actually a technical question, because it used to be that this code wouldn't compile on some platforms
- # [16:31] <ekr> Due to the age of the compiler.
- # [16:31] <ekr> I guess I will test
- # [16:31] * gaston dances with Ms2ger on the grave of MSVC<10
- # [16:31] <Ms2ger> \o_
- # [16:31] <froydnj> ekr: ah, well, I have no idea as to that
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- # [16:31] <gaston> on a totally unrelated note, i'm adding a freebsd/amd64 slave to my buildbot thanks to a freebsd developer :)
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- # [16:31] <gaston> dist/firefox-24.0a1.en-US.freebsd10.0-x86_64.tar.bz2
- # [16:31] <gaston> \o/
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- # [16:32] <Ms2ger> Setting yourself up for more work? :)
- # [16:32] <gaston> naaaaah
- # [16:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/920669704476 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 866229 - Change - Add a preference for not doing updates in Metro. r=jimm
- # [16:32] <gaston> (crossing fingers)
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0f4d868fd43e - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 866229 - Use metro enabled pref. r=rstrong
- # [16:32] <Ms2ger> Heh
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c6e7f96503d9 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 874323 - Start updater manually for Metro to apply update. r=rstrong
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/ec0b9531dda9 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 874323 - Continue to launch callback when allow set foreground call fails. r=jimm
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/03ff0bc0c319 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 874323 - wait longer for app to close for Metro since it launches updater directly. r=rstrong
- # [16:32] <gaston> more configurations, more ways to test *bsd patchsets :)
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/afd8afc7a840 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 866229 - Hide Metro prefs pre win8. r=rstrong
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/241aedb647cf - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 866229 - Don't abort when app.update.silent is true and update.showPrompt is true on Metro. r=rstrong
- # [16:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/fa1e4a308527 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 866229 - Metro pref telemetry. r=rstrong
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- # [16:33] <froydnj> gfritzsche: huh, I could have sworn somebody filed a bug about making StandardInteger.h go away now that we had upgraded MSVC to 2010
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- # [16:34] <Ms2ger> gaston, some day I should figure out why people actually want *bsd ;)
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- # [16:34] <gfritzsche> froydnj: that's probably about stdint.h?
- # [16:34] <froydnj> because they go do CS graduate work in systems and believe that's all anybody uses ;)
- # [16:35] <nigelb> 34
- # [16:35] <nigelb> ugh
- # [16:35] <froydnj> ah, bug 872127
- # [16:35] <gaston> Ms2ger: elitism, of course ! :)
- # [16:36] <Ms2ger> gaston, do you also build rust?
- # [16:36] <gaston> i tried at some point, but i'd need a bootstrap first, and this is ways beyond my skills
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- # [16:36] <gaston> i know freebsd has a bootstrap but porting that too openbsd looked really insane
- # [16:37] <gfritzsche> froydnj: yeah, stdint.h went into MSVC 2010, but inttypes.h is still missing
- # [16:37] <froydnj> gfritzsche: :(
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- # [16:37] <froydnj> who implements stdint.h but not inttypes.h? *boggle*
- # [16:37] <Ms2ger> MS
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- # [16:39] <@ted> well it took them like 10 years to get stdint.h
- # [16:39] <@ted> so cut them some slack
- # [16:40] <Ms2ger> I don't see how that follows
- # [16:40] <hub> [sarcasm]
- # [16:40] <Ms2ger> Oh
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- # [16:44] <nigelb> hub: you'll want to keep this handy ;-) http://imgur.com/TzDkQ1t
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- # [16:49] <hub> nigelb: exactly
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- # [16:51] <philor> awesome
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- # [16:52] <philor> a) mxr is out of date, b) something switched http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/test/Makefile.in#42 from ifneq to ifdef
- # [16:52] <RyanVM> philor: almost certainly one of the recent gtk2->gtk3 patches
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- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> Sounds right
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- # [16:53] <philor> wonder how many other things they fucked up, besides just showing us how the Linux test_contextmenu failures have changed over the years?
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- # [16:54] <@ehsan> armenzg_mtg: I'm afraid I know almost nothing about mozharness, where to download it from, how to point it to builds and tests etc.
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> I guess I'm going to have to build on this machine :(
- # [16:54] <Ms2ger> Filed bug 882152 for mxr
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- # [16:55] <RyanVM> philor: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/0cb01583448b/browser/base/content/test/Makefile.in
- # [16:57] <Bastien> hi everyone, I have a problem when I try to use Components.classes : I get an error 'permission denied to access property classes'
- # [16:57] <Ms2ger> Is your script privileged?
- # [16:57] <armenzg_mtg> ehsan: I put an example on the comment
- # [16:57] <armenzg_mtg> it downloads whatever build you want, unzips it and runs tests against it
- # [16:58] <armenzg_mtg> the same way as in tbpl
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- # [16:58] <Bastien> Ms2ger : I don't know how to give 'privilege' to my script ?
- # [16:58] <armenzg_mtg> ehsan: does that help?
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- # [16:58] <armenzg> mozharness is just a script that sets the machine up to run tests
- # [16:58] <armenzg> no need to build
- # [16:58] <RyanVM> philor: just commented in bug 879760
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- # [16:59] <RyanVM> philor: I'll push a follow-up now
- # [16:59] <philor> thanks!
- # [16:59] <@ehsan> armenzg: wow, my eye sight... is definitely deteriorating
- # [16:59] <@ehsan> armenzg: sorry, I thought that's just you quoting my comment!!!
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- # [17:01] <RyanVM> -ifdef MOZ_WIDGET_GTK
- # [17:01] <RyanVM> +ifndef MOZ_WIDGET_GTK
- # [17:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca367f2c1f8e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 879760 - Re-disable tests that were inadvertently enabled on Linux.
- # [17:01] <armenzg> ehsan: no problemo!
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- # [17:03] <@ehsan> armenzg: hmm, is it possible to run a subset of mochitests with mozharness?
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- # [17:05] <armenzg> ehsan: like mochitest-1?
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- # [17:06] <@ehsan> armenzg: no, like tests in content/media/webaudio
- # [17:06] <armenzg> ehsan: I doubt it
- # [17:06] * Ms2ger wonders what ehsan is doing with mozharness
- # [17:06] <@ehsan> :(
- # [17:06] <armenzg> maybe aki would know
- # [17:06] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I'm trying to repro a crash that only happens on our slaves
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- # [17:06] <armenzg> I was hoping to save ehsan some time by not needing to do the builds locally
- # [17:07] <armenzg> but since he already has gone through the pain of getting Visual Studio...
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- # [17:07] <armenzg> it might not make sense anymore
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- # [17:07] <@ehsan> well
- # [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ec850cf19e60 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 880640 - In the transitive compilation loop, monitor use counts and
- # [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/869f21ccd71a - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 856246 - Update test suite to consistently use minItemsTestingThreshold and other abstractions r=till
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- # [17:07] <@ehsan> armenzg: I'm afraid that running tests without mozharness would make the crash not happen...
- # [17:08] <armenzg> I see
- # [17:08] <armenzg> ehsan: what would you normally run if you wanted to run content/media/webaudio?
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- # [17:08] <armenzg> maybe it is easy for us to add support for that
- # [17:08] <@ehsan> armenzg: and mochitest-1 takes too long... I was hoping to run this test 1000 times or something today... :/
- # [17:09] <@ehsan> armenzg: make -C objdir mochitest-1...
- # [17:09] <@ehsan> but that requires a build with an objdir
- # [17:09] <armenzg> :/
- # [17:09] <armenzg> I don't know what to recommend
- # [17:10] <Ms2ger> ehsan, automation just runs runtest.py, no? So you can just pass --test-path there
- # [17:10] <armenzg> let me check the code
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> armenzg: and now mozharness is complaining about missing config files :(
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: oh it does?
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> well
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> I guess I should just give up and do my own build
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> sigh
- # [17:11] <Ms2ger> ehsan, I suggest looking at a log, they have all the commands ;)
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- # [17:11] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23460882&full=1&branch=mozilla-central, runtests.py only occurs once there
- # [17:11] <armenzg> ehsan: did you use this? --cfg unittests/win_unittest.py
- # [17:11] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: so perhaps things have changed
- # [17:11] <@ehsan> armenzg: I did
- # [17:11] <Ms2ger> That's certainly possible
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- # [17:12] <@ehsan> armenzg: and it tells me "Can't find win_unittests.py in a list of confirgs..."
- # [17:12] <Ms2ger> ehsan, wait, that's a crashtest run
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- # [17:12] <armenzg> it's not mochitest
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- # [17:13] <armenzg> ehsan: the config is there inside the repo
- # [17:13] <@ehsan> yeah, sorry, I meant crashtest
- # [17:13] <Ms2ger> Oh
- # [17:13] <@ehsan> armenzg: mozharness disagrees ;)
- # [17:13] <armenzg> mozharness at the end it runs this 20:25:52 INFO - Running command: ['c:\\talos-slave\\test\\build\\venv\\Scripts\\python', '-u', 'c:\\talos-slave\\test\\build\\tests\\reftest/runreftest.py', '--appname=c:\\talos-slave\\test\\build\\application\\firefox\\firefox.exe', '--utility-path=tests/bin', '--extra-profile-file=tests/bin/plugins', '--symbols-path=c:\\talos-slave\\test\\build\\symbols', 'tests/reftest/tests/testing/
- # [17:13] <armenzg> crashtest/crashtests.list'] in c:\talos-slave\test\build
- # [17:13] <Ms2ger> Then I'm confused why you're all talking mochitest-1 here :)
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- # [17:13] <armenzg> heh
- # [17:13] <Ms2ger> 20:25:52 INFO - Copy/paste: c:\talos-slave\test\build\venv\Scripts\python -u c:\talos-slave\test\build\tests\reftest/runreftest.py --appname=c:\talos-slave\test\build\application\firefox\firefox.exe --utility-path=tests/bin --extra-profile-file=tests/bin/plugins --symbols-path=c:\talos-slave\test\build\symbols tests/reftest/tests/testing/crashtest/crashtests.list
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- # [17:14] <armenzg> yeah; the cleaner print
- # [17:14] <@ehsan> ah I guess I can just run firefox.exe directly
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- # [17:14] <Ms2ger> Or replace the tests/reftest/tests/testing/crashtest/crashtests.list there
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- # [17:15] <armenzg> the path to it is hg.mozilla.org/build/mozharness/file/default/configs/unittests/win_unittest.py
- # [17:15] <armenzg> ehsan: you can probably change this line http://hg.mozilla.org/build/mozharness/file/default/configs/unittests/win_unittest.py#l72
- # [17:15] <@ehsan> armenzg: it's ok, I officially gave up on mozharness ;)
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- # [17:16] <armenzg> hehe thanks for trying!
- # [17:16] <@ehsan> armenzg: Ms2ger: thanks guys
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- # [17:29] <rnewman> have the 20+ patch stack all ready to go :)
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- # [17:35] <till> Ms2ger: a twenty-something like you shouldn't be that dismissive ...
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- # [17:57] <jimm> armenzg: hey, can you point me at the automation script that checks that harness return result?
- # [17:57] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: Are these Talos regressions from bug 875454+880675 tracked anywhere?
- # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: I'm sorry, I don't know anything about them, is there a thread?
- # [17:58] <gps> jcranmer: \o/
- # [17:58] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: several threads, e.g. https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/XASJibd212c/discussion
- # [17:58] <jcranmer> gps: the need for c-c dependencies means this is annoying to land
- # [17:58] <gps> jcranmer: should you email dev-platform or should I?
- # [17:58] <armenzg> jimm: we run mozharness inside of ScriptFactory, which turns return code of 4 into a RETRY http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/default/misc.py#l488
- # [17:58] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: Are you filtering out your analyze_talos mail? ;)
- # [17:58] <jcranmer> gps: I'll email when everything lands
- # [17:58] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: I don't typically read tree-management
- # [17:58] <jcranmer> gps: I wanted to first make sure that the try run succeeded
- # [17:59] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: It should have emailed you directly...
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- # [17:59] <armenzg> jimm: the step of running the tests is in here http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/default/process/factory.py#l6707
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- # [17:59] <armenzg> what are you trying to look for?
- # [18:00] <jimm> armenzg: thanks, just wanted to be sure we were returning the right value for failure/success as well.
- # [18:00] <armenzg> ok cool
- # [18:00] <jimm> currently it always returns 0
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- # [18:03] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: ok, so I see an obvious Tp regression. There are also Ts reports, but the graphs there don't look like an obvious regression.
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- # [18:03] <jimm> armenzg: if I push a rev to try that always returns 4, am I going to blow up the pool?
- # [18:03] <@bsmedberg> does that match your understanding?
- # [18:03] <jimm> meaning will the try push just keep retrying endlessly?
- # [18:03] <armenzg> jimm: we can then cancel it manually
- # [18:03] <jimm> ok
- # [18:04] <armenzg> it will keep on retrying until we stop it
- # [18:04] <armenzg> I wonder if we should have some logic to prevent more than 4 retries
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- # [18:04] <jimm> probably!
- # [18:05] <armenzg> I filed it
- # [18:05] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: I'm pretty sure the Ts regression is real since it was detected on multiple platforms; here's one of the clearer graphs showing it: http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[83,131,33]]&sel=1370882089000,1371054889000&displayrange=7&datatype=running
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- # [18:06] <@bsmedberg> hrm
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- # [18:06] <Yoric> yzen: pong
- # [18:06] <mbrubeck> also http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[227,131,37]]&sel=1370880563000,1371053363000&displayrange=7&datatype=running
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- # [18:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f629bdc6b38 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 875304, part 1 - remove some useless malloc checks. r=smaug
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- # [18:07] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: ok so, the Tp thing ought to be fairly easy to fix via blocklist state cacheing
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- # [18:08] <yzen> Yoric: I just wanted to confirm with you if I should get rid of non-fcntl code in my pathces (since they are not mac os specific) and just keep the fcntl?
- # [18:08] <@bsmedberg> mbrubeck: I'm a little more worried about the Ts thing, since we pretty much have to load the blocklist the first time we encounter a plugin
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- # [18:08] <@bsmedberg> I will file, in any case
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- # [18:08] <mbrubeck> Thanks
- # [18:08] <Yoric> yzen: If you can do it in a clean way, please do.
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- # [18:08] * @bsmedberg wonders if Ts is just affected by the same thing as Tp
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- # [18:09] <mbrubeck> bsmedberg: I've been using keywords "perf, regression" and nominating tracking-firefoxN for all the benchmark regression bugs I file.
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- # [18:09] <mbrubeck> to try to minimize the number that slip through the cracks and ship
- # [18:10] <yzen> Yoric: ok thanks. and one more thing, i got about Regression: Mozilla-Inbound - Robocop Pan Benchmark - Android 2.2 (Native) - 171% increase and the noOptions commit was part of the changeset..
- # [18:10] <mbrubeck> yzen: That sounds likely to be kats's regression... let me take a look
- # [18:10] <Yoric> yzen: That sounds surprising.
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- # [18:10] <Yoric> yzen: I mean, it would be surprising if your simple change were a culprit.
- # [18:10] <kats> yzen: yeah pretty sure it's mine
- # [18:11] <mbrubeck> yzen: Yep, not your fault. kats filed http://bugzil.la/882120 for that regression
- # [18:11] <Yoric> It only allocates one or two empty objects per write, and there are no writes on the critical path, so I'm satisfied with blaming kats :)
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- # [18:11] <yzen> kats, mbrubeckm Yoric: hah, thanks i just wanted to confirm
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- # [18:12] <mbrubeck> Now to ask ttaubert why bug 791670 hasn't been reverted yet...
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- # [18:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0f606080683 - Wes Johnston - Bug 877911 - Make prompt service use Prompts.jsm. r=margaret
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- # [18:17] <romaxa> khuey: it seems pymake does ~500ms delay between switching build directories
- # [18:18] <@bsmedberg> huh?
- # [18:18] <romaxa> khuey: I did initial build pymake -f client.mk build_all, and then repeated it without changing any single line it took 40 minutes
- # [18:19] <romaxa> khuey: on linux it does build_all in ~10-20 seconds
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- # [18:20] <romaxa> khuey: all the time CPU utilization is ~2-5%, when it goes through build dirs, and 20% when it start compiling stuff like gfx
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- # [18:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ef1a5998cb6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 869f21ccd71a (bug 856246) for test failures.
- # [18:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59143d8cf13b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset cd80b21eb9a0 (bug 856246) for test failures.
- # [18:21] <romaxa> khuey: I did build ~2 month ago, and haven't seen these issues
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- # [18:23] <khuey> trust me I know our windows build performance sucks ;-)
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- # [18:24] <romaxa> khuey: but I guess it got even more after recent build system changes
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- # [18:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2f1bb6823625 - Steve Fink - Bug 868700 - Manage structured clone memory with JSAutoStructuredCloneBuffer to prevent leaking unused buffers, r=bent
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- # [18:26] <RyanVM> philor: so I guess you're suspicious of the android reftest orange too
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- # [18:26] <khuey> romaxa: no :-/
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- # [18:27] <RyanVM> doesn't gofaster?
- # [18:27] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, the "Command Queue is CRITICAL: n dead items" stuff in #buildduty is eating the results on the builds that actually did happen down there
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- # [18:29] <mbrubeck> (data does not go back very far, unfortunately)
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- # [18:33] <qui> BOLO for FF devs -> Adobe's current flash plugin for linux is 11.2.202.291. Yet Mozilla's plugin checker (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/) shows it as vulnerable and recommends an update.
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- # [18:35] <mbrubeck> ted, ehsan: bleh, I give up trying to get decent numbers for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874141
- # [18:35] <mbrubeck> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859571 means that all Ts tests on the new Windows hardware are half garbage
- # [18:36] <romaxa> khuey: I see tbpl build time is ~53 minutes... which I guess sane
- # [18:36] <@gavin> qui: Tomcat|afk is the person to ping
- # [18:36] <@gavin> qui: though I think he's already on it
- # [18:36] <romaxa> khuey: not sure if it does clobber all the time
- # [18:36] <@ted> mbrubeck: :-/
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- # [18:36] <mbrubeck> armenzg_lunch: I thought we were going to keep some Talos jobs running on the old hardware until bug 859571 was fixed?
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- # [18:36] <@ted> mbrubeck: i saw that when i went to look at the graphs
- # [18:36] <romaxa> khuey: ted: release builds show win build time 3 hours...
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- # [18:37] <gfritzsche> qui: can you file a bug please with Product:websites, component:plugins.mozilla.org ?
- # [18:37] <@ted> romaxa: that's definitely not my experience locally or our experience on tinderbox
- # [18:37] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: :(
- # [18:37] <@ted> romaxa: i suspect something with your machine configuration
- # [18:37] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, here's one who uses the bmo dashboard, at least
- # [18:37] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: what's your suggestion about ted's patch?
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- # [18:38] <mbrubeck> ehsan: Well, as long as we don't care about the small linker vsize increase, there's probably no harm in landing it.
- # [18:38] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: I'd say that we don't right now
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- # [18:38] <qui> gfritzsche: yes.
- # [18:38] <@ehsan> especially since we have a clear way to revert that decision in case it proves to be a mistake
- # [18:38] <mbrubeck> ehsan: Someone will need to do some manual filtering of the data if we want to actually measure if it had an effect on Ts, though. :/
- # [18:38] <@ehsan> manual filtering how?
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- # [18:39] <mbrubeck> ehsan: Filtering out all of the 20-second startup times from bug 859571
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- # [18:39] <mbrubeck> and comparing before/after averages without those outliers
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- # [18:39] <mbrubeck> Actually, someone should probably be doing that regularly anyway, otherwise nothing will tell us if we regress Ts on Windows. :(
- # [18:40] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: hmm, well, yes I agree
- # [18:40] <mbrubeck> ...and I'm leaving for a long vacation in a few days.
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- # [18:40] <@ehsan> but I've been blowing the Talos horn for too long :/
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- # [18:41] <mbrubeck> Hmm, at least Windows XP seems unaffected
- # [18:41] <romaxa> ted: -j14, i7-3920XM, 16GB-RAM, 4 cores * 2 virtual, win8, vc++ 2011
- # [18:41] <mbrubeck> and less noisy in general
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- # [18:41] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: relatedly has anyone gone after jandem for his regressions?
- # [18:41] <romaxa> ted: fresh installed windows
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- # [18:42] <mbrubeck> not I
- # [18:42] <@ted> romaxa: definitely shouldn't take that long
- # [18:42] <@ted> romaxa: see if something is interfering with disk I/O/
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- # [18:43] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: yeah, I'm not abosultely sure its so I haven't either, but I have trouble believing its bsmedberg's plugin test changes
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- # [18:43] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: Which benchmark did jandem regress?
- # [18:44] <romaxa> ted: hmm it started working faster while it compile directories like webrtc... but it suck on directories where multiple inherited subfolders...
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- # [18:44] <romaxa> ted: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=23937400&tree=Mozilla-Release - search for ========= Finished com
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- # [18:45] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: Oh, those ones
- # [18:45] <mbrubeck> tbsaunde: I think that actually is bsmedberg; he was going to file a bug about it.
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- # [18:45] <@ted> romaxa: our release builds are PGO
- # [18:45] <@ted> those are always 3+ hours
- # [18:45] <romaxa> ah
- # [18:45] <romaxa> ok
- # [18:45] <mbrubeck> (on Linux builds the same regressions appeared before jandem's push)
- # [18:46] <Tomcat|afk> qui: thanks will look at it
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- # [18:46] <romaxa> ted: especially problem with switching between make subfolders visible on security/nss compilation... where -j is not working and switch time between folders ~500ms
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- # [18:47] <@ted> romaxa: there's definitely something weird going on on your system
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- # [18:47] <@ted> no antivirus, right?
- # [18:47] <romaxa> ted: disk IO does not seems like a problem, and it is SSD drive
- # [18:48] <romaxa> ted: no antivirus :)
- # [18:49] <romaxa> ted: will try to switch into performance power mode
- # [18:49] <@ted> yeah, i don't know offhand what's wrong
- # [18:49] <@ted> but clearly something is going on
- # [18:50] <mbrubeck> One year of Ts Paint on Windows: http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[227,1,12]]&displayrange=365
- # [18:50] <mbrubeck> lots of small regressions = 37% total regression
- # [18:50] <@ted> that is a horrible upward trend
- # [18:50] <@ted> ugh
- # [18:51] <romaxa> ted: I wonder how much time you get in output of time if you do; pymake -f client.mk build_all; time pymake -f client.mk build_all
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- # [18:51] <mbrubeck> https://areweslimyet.com/ - we are well on our way to regressing all of the memory gains we made around the Fx10 to Fx12 era
- # [18:51] <tbsaunde> mbrubeck: oh, huh!
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- # [18:52] <@ted> mbrubeck: is this just death by a thousand cuts?
- # [18:52] <mbrubeck> around 30% RSS increase in most benchmarks over the past six months
- # [18:52] <mbrubeck> ted: Yeah, pretty much
- # [18:52] <RyanVM> philor: fun story, the R2 failure is on m-c too
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- # [18:54] <NeilAway> Optimizer: not selectively, no
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- # [18:55] <NeilAway> Optimizer: well, if you turn off -moz-appearance then you can custom style the menulist, but that's probably overkill
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- # [18:57] <mbrubeck> armenzg_lunch: Okay... I'm less concerned now that I see Windows XP is still giving valid data
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- # [18:57] <philor> RyanVM: makes you wonder what landed on 05-28 and got backed out on 05-29, that did it before, doesn't it?
- # [18:58] <RyanVM> philor :)
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- # [18:59] <khuey> s
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- # [18:59] <sfink> do you also associate?
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- # [19:00] <sfink> or transit?
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- # [19:02] <jesup|laptop> ted: Wouldn't it be cool if you could retrigger a test run with a different NSPR_LOG_MODULES setting? ;-)
- # [19:02] <jesup|laptop> Would make tracking stuff down (especially on platforms you don't have, or where it fails only on the test servers) MUCH easier
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- # [19:03] <@ted> jesup|laptop: that would be neat, i have no idea how we'd do that
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- # [19:15] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, inner, I think
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- # [19:18] <tbsaunde> bz: which seems to be always called with some other classes member, and I was trying to be lazy and avoid figuring out how webrtc works
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- # [19:19] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, note, *think* ;)
- # [19:20] <@bz> tbsaunde: heh
- # [19:20] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I know, and that's how I feel too
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- # [19:40] <jesup|laptop> tbsaunde: The window ID comes from dom/media/MediaManager.cpp. Inner window I think
- # [19:40] <jesup|laptop> I can't look right now to verify
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- # [19:42] <tbsaunde> jesup|laptop: ok
- # [19:42] <tbsaunde> thanks
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- # [19:52] <jlebar> We don't have a reader/writer lock in the tree, do we?
- # [19:56] <bent> jlebar, don't think so
- # [19:56] <khuey> not that I know of
- # [19:56] <derf> WebRTC has one.
- # [19:56] <jlebar> bummer.
- # [19:56] * khuey wanted one for something a while back
- # [19:56] <jlebar> derf: do you remember what it's called?
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- # [19:57] <derf> media/webrtc/trunk/webrtc/system_wrappers/interface/rw_lock_wrapper.h
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- # [19:57] <jlebar> derf: thanks!
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- # [19:58] <jlebar> Ouch, virtual functions and everything.
- # [19:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/095b953d91b9 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 881507: NoSuchMethodError on MenuItem. [r=mfinkle]
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- # [20:01] <tbsaunde> jlebar: I think I saw a rw lock somewhere in the dom/camera stuff somewhere, but I didn't go find the impl, maybe its the webrtc one
- # [20:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c1cf26d1bcc - Jan de Mooij - Bug 881370 - Remove entry from Debugger HashMap before instead of after mutating the HashMap. r=jimb
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- # [20:01] <jlebar> Oh, there's one in NSPR!
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- # [20:02] <jlebar> tbsaunde: It uses PR_NewRWLock
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- # [20:02] <jlebar> tbsaunde: and then it writes its own wrappers, because grumble grumble they didn't want anyone else to see this.
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- # [20:03] <jlebar> khuey: bent: ^
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- # [20:03] <tbsaunde> jlebar: yeah, that's what I just saw too :/
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- # [20:03] <khuey> jlebar: nice
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- # [20:04] <bent> jlebar, if we don't use it in gecko i'd be suspicious
- # [20:04] <jlebar> bent: we use it in dom/camera.
- # [20:05] <Ms2ger> Hah, *that*
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- # [20:05] <bent> jlebar, /me reserves the right to say "I told you so" someday ;)
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- # [20:06] <jlebar> bent: and only there. :)
- # [20:06] <bent> ha
- # [20:06] <jlebar> bent: there's a test?
- # [20:06] <jlebar> :)
- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> A test for dom/camera?
- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> You must be new here
- # [20:06] <jlebar> Ms2ger: For pr_rwlock
- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> I wish we still had gcov running
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- # [20:07] <Ms2ger> It would be nice to see all the 0% coverage of b2g stuff
- # [20:07] <jlebar> Ms2ger: so we could argue about that on the newsgroups?
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- # [20:07] <jlebar> Ms2ger: It's a two-year-old rule now that all b2g landings must have tests. So don't worry about it.
- # [20:08] <Ms2ger> jlebar, I should hang out with you more... I like bitter people
- # [20:08] <khuey> lol
- # [20:08] <jlebar> haha
- # [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/473252f1819d - Jim Mathies - Bug 880739 - Fix for intermittent browser_context_menu_tests.js. r=bbondy
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- # [20:09] <RyanVM> jlebar: we can have a beer summit next week
- # [20:10] <jlebar> RyanVM: indeed!
- # [20:10] <tbsaunde> bent: well, presumably jlebar will put a nice C++ wrapper around it and then we can swap it out for pthreads direct use and whatever on windows
- # [20:11] <jlebar> tbsaunde: if I end up using it, I definitely write a wrapper.
- # [20:11] <Ms2ger> akeybl, did we get a response to dbaron's post in the verification thread already?
- # [20:12] <akeybl> Ms2ger: asking what the point of verification is?
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- # [20:12] <akeybl> yes
- # [20:12] <akeybl> "There are many major issues (B2G comes to mind, but this is true everywhere) that could have been avoided by doing a simple high-level pass on landed code. This is especially true of code landing without an automated testcase, and bugs that are left unverified by QA.
- # [20:12] <akeybl> I'd like us to change our standard of verification, such that all landings are looked at post-landing by somebody. And that person notes in the bug that it has been verified. My suggestion for scaling this would be to ask the developers to spend the couple of minutes it takes to fire up the browser and run through a user story, test case, etc."
- # [20:12] <Ms2ger> akeybl, okay
- # [20:13] <Ms2ger> akeybl, so how many of those would have been caught had we had automated tests for b2g?
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- # [20:13] * jlebar ducks out of this flamewar
- # [20:13] <akeybl> jlebar: not a flamewar :\
- # [20:14] <akeybl> we should question our assumptions
- # [20:14] <Ms2ger> You just wait for the flamewar ;)
- # [20:14] <jlebar> akeybl: yet. :-p
- # [20:14] * RyanVM backs away slowly
- # [20:14] <Ms2ger> akeybl, and given that we can't get devs to write those tests, how likely is it that we can get those same devs to do the verification?
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- # [20:14] <akeybl> Ms2ger: don't have exact numbers, but basically obvious breakage happens regularly
- # [20:14] <jlebar> akeybl: I totally respect the marketplace of ideas. I don't like this particular idea, but I totally agree with talking about it.
- # [20:14] <@bz> So we do have a problem
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- # [20:14] <@bz> which is that there are several known failure modes for local testing
- # [20:14] <khuey> we have lots of problems
- # [20:15] <@bz> For example, whole classes of bugs are only reproducible in packaged builds
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- # [20:16] <@gavin> AIUI the proposal for verification involved testing nightly builds, not developer builds
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- # [20:16] <@bz> Right, exactly
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- # [20:16] <@bz> there is definite value in that
- # [20:16] <@bz> because it's quite possible for a bug to be fixed in a developer build but not a nightly
- # [20:16] <@gavin> (also catches mislandings and such)
- # [20:16] <@bz> Yep
- # [20:17] <@bz> It's an excellent idea to do in general
- # [20:17] <jlebar> This just sounds to me like us saying "our QA org isn't assuring the quality of our product, so let's see if developers can."
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- # [20:17] <@gavin> I don't think it's useful to separate this into separate problem silos based on org charts
- # [20:17] <@bz> I think that drawing that distinction is silly
- # [20:17] <@gavin> assuring quality is all of our jobs
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- # [20:18] <bajaj1> mjrosenb: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858940 can you please help with needsinfo on this ?
- # [20:18] <@gavin> if it's more cost-effective for developers to do this testing than it is for other people to do it, we should consider it
- # [20:18] <@gavin> (of course we'd need to determine that, and I'm sure opinions vary :)
- # [20:18] <jlebar> gavin: sure, I agree with that.
- # [20:18] <@bz> So in an ideal world
- # [20:18] <@bz> we'd have the bug reporter try a nightly. ;)
- # [20:19] <@bz> or something
- # [20:19] <akeybl> bz: yeah I wish ;)
- # [20:19] <@bz> A lot of them do anyway
- # [20:19] <Ms2ger> Not if I'm the bug reporter ;)
- # [20:19] <akeybl> files bug, falls of the face of the planet
- # [20:19] <@bz> at least in my neck of the woods
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- # [20:19] <@bz> sure
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- # [20:19] <jlebar> gavin: I just think it's obviously not a productive use of developers' time. Particularly considering how un-fun these process-mandates would make the job, and the effect that would have on our ability to attact and keep good people.
- # [20:19] <akeybl> jlebar: we mandate r+
- # [20:19] <jesup|laptop> I'm having problems getting NSPR log output from android opt (2.2) builds on try and inbound. We have logging that's enabled regardless of --enable-debug (forced on), but I'm not getting it in the log output even though automation.py.in is forcing NSPR_LOG_MODULES to signaling:5 -- anyone know what's going on here?
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- # [20:19] <akeybl> that's because it's good engineering process, so is this
- # [20:20] <Ms2ger> akeybl, (also, a random statistic: of the 15 patches I landed this morning, maybe one could have been verified this way)
- # [20:20] <jlebar> We need to keep the big picture in mind, and it's more than an obvious "number of hours spent times dollars per hour" metric.
- # [20:20] <@bz> I think the fundamental issue here is the value gained
- # [20:20] <@bz> and whether we agree on it
- # [20:20] <@bz> I think the general feeling is that r+ is good value
- # [20:20] <akeybl> tbh, it's kind of like making 95% of a painting, painting the last 5% in the dark, and never looking at it again before selling it
- # [20:20] <@gavin> jlebar: I don't think akeybl is proposing a mandate, more of a guideline :)
- # [20:20] <@bz> in that it very commonly catches problems
- # [20:20] <@bz> in everyone's code
- # [20:21] <Ms2ger> (Sure does in mine)
- # [20:21] <@bz> akeybl: I assume you've read https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172191#c16 ?
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- # [20:22] <Ms2ger> bz, see his response to my question ten minutes ago ;)
- # [20:22] <@bz> akeybl: but it doesn't sound like you're talking about either the netscape-style pro-forma verification nor the exploratory testing dbaron suggests, right?
- # [20:22] <akeybl> bz that's correct
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- # [20:23] <@gavin> there are classes of bugs where verification is less useful
- # [20:23] <akeybl> I don't think "However, I get the sense that Netscape QA uses number of bugs verified as a measure of productivity of testers" applies at all to this proposal
- # [20:23] <@gavin> there are also classes of bugs where developers claim verification isn't useful incorrectly :)
- # [20:23] <akeybl> this is about ensuring that all verifiable landings are sane post-landing
- # [20:23] <akeybl> however we can accomplish that in the shortest time is my goal
- # [20:23] <@gavin> (but usefulness of verification depends a lot on how well you can understand the nature of the bug, and usually developpers have the best such understanding)
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- # [20:24] <@bz> right
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- # [20:24] <@bz> if people show up and start asking how to verify the bug
- # [20:24] <@bz> then you have lost
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- # [20:24] <@gavin> yeah
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- # [20:25] <@dolske> I'd say figure out how to do "verification" so it's not a waste of time like it's historically been, and pilot it in a small area to see how it goes.
- # [20:25] <sfink> what's the specific problem at hand here? "a bunch of b2g bugs that were claimed to have been fixed are still present in release builds?" I'm a little confused.
- # [20:25] <khuey> sfink: basically
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- # [20:26] <akeybl> and then on a smaller scale with desktop/mobile (mostly because of better automated testing)
- # [20:26] <@gavin> the problem is compounded for b2g because of schedule pressure etc.
- # [20:26] <@gavin> so maybe not best to start from there and extrapolate to "all of Mozilla"
- # [20:26] <khuey> if "schedule pressure" means "has no tests" then yes
- # [20:26] <akeybl> gavin: I tried to scale it back if people wanted to, but perhaps too late
- # [20:26] <@gavin> khuey: they are related problems
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- # [20:27] <sfink> yeah, it feels like the cost/benefit tradeoff might fall on different sides between b2g and desktop
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- # [20:27] <@gavin> it's easy to throw stones when you're not the one under the gun :)
- # [20:27] <khuey> gavin: I suspect, without evidence, that if b2g had real testing the schedule pressure might be reduced
- # [20:27] <@gavin> (poorly mixing analogies here, but you get my point)
- # [20:27] <khuey> gavin: because things wouldn't break all the time ;-)
- # [20:27] <khuey> but yes, it is
- # [20:27] <@gavin> khuey: also easy to suspect without evidence :)
- # [20:28] <khuey> I don't disagree
- # [20:28] <khuey> anyways
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- # [20:28] <@dolske> I don't have citations, but I thought it was fairly widely accepted that although testing incurs a short-term time penalty (writing tests), it's a clear long-term win.
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- # [20:28] <RyanVM> http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_529/1281643858lRB40H.jpg
- # [20:28] <khuey> dolske: accepted within the software engineering community or accepted here? ;-)
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- # [20:29] <sfink> which means that if you have short-term hard deadlines, tests are a bad idea
- # [20:29] <khuey> until you have a never ending succession of short-term hard deadlines
- # [20:29] <khuey> some of which aren't actually deadlines but are just dates someone made up
- # [20:29] <khuey> but I digress
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- # [20:29] <@gavin> sfink: exactly
- # [20:30] <@dolske> certainly the former! and mostly within the parts of Mozilla I have visibiltiy into (notably not FxOS)
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- # [20:31] <RyanVM> speaking of tests...
- # [20:31] <RyanVM> nrc: ping
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- # [20:33] <sfink> so then I would see akeybl's proposal as a midway point between the status quo (no tests, no verification) and the preferable long-term situation (tests, and tests that are sufficient so that manual verification is not needed)
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- # [20:33] <akeybl> sfink: correct
- # [20:33] <sfink> if the cost of writing a test is higher than the cost of verification, it's totally rational
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- # [20:34] <sfink> though part of the cost of writing a test involves having a test suite that is not so deep into technical debt that it's ignored and worthless
- # [20:34] <froydnj> 11:33 < sfink> so then I would see akeybl's proposal as a midway point between the status quo (no tests, no verification) and the preferable long-term situation (tests, and tests that are sufficient so that manual verification is not needed)
- # [20:34] <froydnj> 11:33 < akeybl> sfink: correct
- # [20:34] <froydnj> 11:33 < sfink> if the cost of writing a test is higher than the cost of verification, it's totally rational
- # [20:34] <froydnj> eee
- # [20:34] <tbsaunde> sfink: alternatively its a trick to annoy people who work on b2g enough that they go and write tests :-)
- # [20:34] <akeybl> tbsaunde: shhh
- # [20:35] <sfink> s/trick/carrot/ ("if you write a test, you don't have to verify!")
- # [20:35] <froydnj> sfink: the one-time cost of writing the test might be high, but having that test then ensures future changes don't break the behavior
- # [20:35] <tbsaunde> akeybl: if we're just talking about b2g at this point I don't really care
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- # [20:35] <akeybl> tbsaunde: we're not necessarily, but it is the best example of why this is important
- # [20:36] <akeybl> I was mostly kidding by saying shh
- # [20:36] <akeybl> mostly
- # [20:36] <tbsaunde> akeybl: honestly I can't think of the last time I saw a patch land that didn't fix the issue it intended to
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- # [20:37] <akeybl> tbsaunde: security fixes come to mind, build changes come to mind, aggregate patches, backouts, all sorts of things
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- # [20:37] <akeybl> I live it heh
- # [20:38] <@gavin> froydnj: I don't think anyone is questioning the long-term benefits
- # [20:38] <@gavin> froydnj: just pointing out that they are long term :)
- # [20:38] <akeybl> I've gotta take a phone call - I'll be back
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- # [20:40] <Waldo> also short-term, tho -- pretty easy to screw up *some* aspect of a bugfix if a test isn't written to prove to oneself that it was fixed correctly
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- # [20:41] <Waldo> depending on the complexity of the bug, to be sure
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- # [20:43] <Ms2ger> akeybl, (another statistic: out of 34 VERIFIED bugs assigned to me, 10 were simple refactoring, 12 had automated tests and 7 were arguably useful to verify)
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- # [20:44] <Ms2ger> (7/34 was more than I expected, actually)
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- # [21:04] <jlebar> Do we have the capability to watch a normal file on the fs and get notified when it changes? (This is different from FileDescriptorWatcher, which tells us when an fd can be written to / read from without blocking.)
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- # [21:07] <froydnj> jlebar: I swear something like that was added to xpcom a while agao
- # [21:07] <jdm> dougt: ^ does that sound familiar?
- # [21:07] <fabrice> jlebar: take a look at what the device storage api is doing
- # [21:07] <dougt> yeah
- # [21:07] <dougt> we looked at doing that.
- # [21:08] <jlebar> dougt: did you end up doing it?
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- # [21:08] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: it's not universally available
- # [21:08] <dougt> we used inotify on linux
- # [21:08] <dougt> it worked pretty okay
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- # [21:08] <dougt> on other platforms, there isn't as great of support
- # [21:08] <jlebar> I see
- # [21:09] <dougt> for example, on some platforms you have to monitor EACH fucking directory seperately
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- # [21:09] <jlebar> dougt: You must have used the chromium directory_watcher_inotify somehow, because I don't see any other references to inotify in the tree.
- # [21:09] <dougt> and on other platforms, you only know what "something" has changed… not what changed.
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- # [21:09] <dougt> jlebar: we had patches that added support to xpcom/io/
- # [21:09] <jlebar> dougt: but?
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- # [21:10] <dougt> the intern left.
- # [21:10] <jlebar> lol
- # [21:10] <jlebar> okay
- # [21:10] <jlebar> dougt: On that note, my ride has arrived to pick me up from this coffee shop.
- # [21:10] <dougt> and because of the b2g pressure, we took a short cut and just watch for changes from within device storage.
- # [21:10] <jlebar> dougt: thanks for the explanation!
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- # [21:10] <khuey> should have sent the intern to get you coffee?
- # [21:11] <squib> does anyone know if moco has anyone on the C++ working group?
- # [21:12] <khuey> I'm pretty sure we don't
- # [21:12] <squib> followup: do we want anyone (e.g. me) on the WG?
- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> Do you want to be on the WG?
- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> Do you think it would be a good use of your time?
- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> Does Mozilla have to pay?
- # [21:13] <Ms2ger> If yes/yes/no, go ahead
- # [21:13] <jwir3> lol
- # [21:13] <Ms2ger> If yes/yes/yes, I suspect we can figure something out
- # [21:13] <Ms2ger> If no/*/*... Why are you asking?
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- # [21:13] <squib> Ms2ger: i think the answers are yes/probably/not necessarily
- # [21:14] <Ms2ger> Then my answer is probably :)
- # [21:14] <khuey> I thought we were writing a replacement for C++
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- # [21:14] <jwir3> yes, it's called E++ I think
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- # [21:14] <Ms2ger> D++ was taken?
- # [21:14] <squib> i guess my main question is "do other people think it would be useful to have someone on the WG to keep up on language features"
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- # [21:14] <squib> Ms2ger: well, D is taken
- # [21:14] <jwir3> well, D was taken, and I think we need a fresh start
- # [21:14] <dougt> Ms2ger: lolz. :)
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- # [21:14] <Ms2ger> Waldo might have an opinion
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- # [21:15] <squib> khuey: my understanding is that it'll be a while before rust is actually used on a shipping product
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- # [21:15] <khuey> that's an understatement
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- # [21:15] <Ms2ger> Depends what you call a shipping product
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- # [21:15] <Ms2ger> If you mean a shipping browser... :)
- # [21:16] <cpeterson> jwir3: a programming language called E already exists.
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- # [21:16] <jwir3> ah dang
- # [21:16] <Ms2ger> F?
- # [21:16] <Ms2ger> Yeah
- # [21:16] <Ms2ger> G?
- # [21:16] <jwir3> how about H? does it need to be sequential
- # [21:16] <jwir3> or even Z
- # [21:16] * Waldo somewhat doubts it's worth the time to have someone from Mozilla specifically involved with C++ standardization, but he could be mistaken
- # [21:16] <developers273> Hi
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- # [21:17] <cpeterson> F, G, and Z are already taken
- # [21:17] <Ms2ger> Y?
- # [21:17] <cpeterson> sure, why not?
- # [21:17] <Waldo> even setting aside whether rust is the way of the future or simply a research project that pans out not as fully as hoped
- # [21:18] <khuey> how about R
- # [21:18] <khuey> we can add a few letters to it for disambiguation
- # [21:18] * khuey suggets 'ust'
- # [21:18] <dougt> hah
- # [21:18] <dougt> GOLANG FTW
- # [21:18] <cpeterson> mozlang (or ML for short)
- # [21:18] <squib> Waldo: i'd argue that it *could* be valuable if there are limitations we're bumping against in the language. C++ modules would probably massively improve our compile times
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- # [21:18] <khuey> cpeterson++
- # [21:18] <jwir3> cpeterson++
- # [21:19] <Ms2ger> squib++
- # [21:19] <Ms2ger> Er
- # [21:19] <Ms2ger> cpeterson++
- # [21:19] <jwir3> haha
- # [21:19] <jwir3> HAD TO BE DIFFERENT, DIDN'T YOU?
- # [21:19] <jwir3> ;)
- # [21:19] <Ms2ger> No, can't read
- # [21:19] <khuey> developers273: you sure you're on the right server ...?
- # [21:19] <developers273> probably not
- # [21:19] <developers273> sorry
- # [21:19] <khuey> no worries
- # [21:20] <Waldo> squib: fair enough, although I think the magnitude of compile time improvements is still a bit speculative
- # [21:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31efb8905476 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 878444: in Range Analysis, give an empty range for |Infinity % x|; r=bhackett
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- # [21:20] <Waldo> squib: although, we've been throwing people at developing modules for JS, and several years in it's still trundling along
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- # [21:20] <Waldo> squib: there, if we don't drive it there's a fair chance others won't
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- # [21:21] <@dolske> I'm using a unicode combining character for my next programming language's name.
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- # [21:21] <Waldo> squib: whereas with C++, the question is whether adding our time would hasten it or not, because I think others want modules or something like them pretty hard already
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- # [21:22] <Waldo> dolske: U+1F4A9 isn't a combining character
- # [21:23] <@dolske> Waldo: actually, I've changed my mind. U+202E should turn things around!
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- # [21:24] <squib> Waldo: true, although getting it faster could be useful too. perhaps i'll just follow along with the WG for now and see if there are interesting proposals to relay back to C++ devs here
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- # [21:35] <catlee> vlad: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711210 is going to be an issue as we get closer to wanting to release win64
- # [21:35] <catlee> we do windows signing using mono's signing tools
- # [21:35] <catlee> which didn't work on win64 way back when
- # [21:36] <Ms2ger> Since when do we want to release win64?
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- # [21:37] <philor> one of these days, we should probably do something about how we have two open tracking bugs for it, the old one with all the old blockers, and the new one without them
- # [21:38] <catlee> that's so we can forget all those hard bugs
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- # [22:01] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, hmm?
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- # [22:03] <@smaug> blassey: is Bug 837242 something urgent?
- # [22:03] <Ms2ger> Sounds sucky
- # [22:04] <RyanVM> the smell of tar gets old after a few hours
- # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c2030303c7d7 - David Zbarsky - bug 881261 r=bz
- # [22:05] <jhammel> RyanVM: yeah, even with -j
- # [22:05] <blassey> smaug: sorta
- # [22:05] <blassey> smaug: it is blocking the click disambiguation on b2g
- # [22:05] <blassey> which is one of the main user complaints
- # [22:05] <blassey> smaug: also blocking it for metro, but that's less urgent
- # [22:06] <@smaug> k
- # [22:06] <@gavin> bz: do you have any idea what in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861700#c324 could be considered a bug?
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- # [22:06] <@smaug> blassey: trying to prioritize then
- # [22:06] <@smaug> unless some layout hacker can take it
- # [22:07] <@smaug> tn perhaps ?
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- # [22:07] <blassey> if there's a better assignee, let me know
- # [22:07] <@gavin> bz: (or ideas for someone else to poke, or ideas about recent changes causing this)
- # [22:07] <@smaug> blassey: that is hit testing issue
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- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> And yes, I use inbound
- # [22:08] <Ms2ger> (For untested patches)
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- # [22:09] <tn> smaug, i'm working on another mobile bug right now
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- # [22:10] <@gavin> RyanVM, philor: I don't suppose you guys hvae a pushlog regression range estimate for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861700 ?
- # [22:10] <@gavin> RyanVM, philor: (is that somethign orangefactor can spit out?)
- # [22:10] <RyanVM> gavin: beyond the comments near the beginning of the bug?
- # [22:11] <@smaug> tn: you see, you have all this mobile stuff paged in your mind ;)
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- # [22:11] <RyanVM> gavin: notably comment 28
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- # [22:11] <@gavin> RyanVM: comment 28 makes a guess, but I want a pushlog range I can browse through
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- # [22:11] <@gavin> I guess orangefactor shows the first revision affected
- # [22:11] <RyanVM> comment 0 does too
- # [22:11] <@gavin> I can fudge it based on that
- # [22:11] <RyanVM> but the bug is two months old
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- # [22:11] <RyanVM> so the logs are probably gone
- # [22:12] <@gavin> I don't need logs
- # [22:12] <tn> smaug, heh, i'll keep that bug in mind, but no promises
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- # [22:26] <nrc> bkelly: pong
- # [22:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/44d88ac4b3e3 - Nick Alexander - Bug 873569 - Part 0: Add a sanity test for JNI.jsm. r=wesj
- # [22:26] <bkelly> nrc: hi! got a minute to talk about bug 881970?
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- # [22:26] <bkelly> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881970
- # [22:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d0a27a8a2ccd - Brendan Dahl - Bug 826938 - Hide canvas overflow for hidpi screens. r=yury, a=akeybl
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- # [22:37] <romaxa> smaug: ping
- # [22:37] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: do I need a fix here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/common/src/nsSuiteGlue.js#200
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- # [22:38] <romaxa> smaug: don't see wesj, but do you know anything about this part http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/593594a73dd0/layout/base/nsPresShell.cpp#l1.320 ?
- # [22:38] <romaxa> smaug: why do we send separate event for each changed touch event?
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- # [22:39] <@smaug> romaxa: pong
- # [22:39] <@smaug> because of the spec
- # [22:39] <@smaug> iirc
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- # [22:40] <@smaug> (don't expect any sanity with touch events)
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- # [22:43] <tanvi> RyanVM: i think i've made a process mistake
- # [22:43] <RyanVM> ruh roh
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- # [22:43] <RyanVM> what'd I do?
- # [22:43] <tanvi> we dont want https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769348 to hit aurora yet
- # [22:43] <NeilAway> smaug: (that bracket was three words too long)
- # [22:43] <tanvi> we wanted it to bake on nightly this week and uplift to aurora on monday
- # [22:43] <tanvi> i was going to do the uplift
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- # [22:44] <tanvi> but i guess i was supposed to set a flag or osmething to specify that?
- # [22:44] <RyanVM> certainly didn't get that impression from comment 34! :)
- # [22:44] <tanvi> i thought i would get the review process for uplift started
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- # [22:44] <RyanVM> missed it in your request
- # [22:44] <RyanVM> i'll backout if you want
- # [22:45] <tanvi> comment 33
- # [22:45] <RyanVM> yeah, i see it now :P
- # [22:45] <tanvi> yes please, because apparently once it goes to aurora its hard to back out or something
- # [22:45] <RyanVM> not really, but ok :P
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- # [22:46] <RyanVM> but yes, a whiteboard comment is appreciated if you want to handle yourself
- # [22:46] <tanvi> per comment Marco here https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769994#c132
- # [22:46] <tanvi> he says "the patch involves database version bump and that's not undoable."
- # [22:46] <RyanVM> ah, ok
- # [22:46] <RyanVM> out it goes
- # [22:47] <tanvi> RyanVM: i'm sorry! What shoudl I add to the whiteboard to indicate that we will land on aurora ourselves?
- # [22:47] <RyanVM> a succinct comment saying so works :)
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- # [22:48] <RyanVM> [don't uplift without talking to Tanvi] ? :P
- # [22:48] <tanvi> okay, thanks RyanVM!
- # [22:49] <romaxa> smaug: ok, thanks
- # [22:49] <RyanVM> tanvi: I stopped the Android builds on that push too, so there won't be any builds off Aurora with it in there
- # [22:50] <RyanVM> should I cancel them all?
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- # [22:50] <RyanVM> tanvi: I will just to be safe
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- # [22:51] <tanvi> yeah
- # [22:51] <@gavin> RyanVM: does orangefactor not work well for aurora/beta? e.g. http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/?display=Bug&bugid=861700&tree=mozilla-aurora&startday=1969-12-30&endday=1970-01-01 doesn't seem to work
- # [22:51] <@gavin> RyanVM: hmm, although now switching back to "trunk" or "mozilla-central" also doesn't work
- # [22:52] <@gavin> RyanVM: nm, it's working now :)
- # [22:52] <RyanVM> hah, glad to be of help!
- # [22:52] <RyanVM> tanvi: canceled and clobbered
- # [22:52] <jhammel> gavin: you hit the if (is_gavin) clause
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- # [22:53] <tanvi> RyanVM: thanks!
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- # [23:00] <RyanVM> jlebar: ping
- # [23:00] <jlebar> RyanVM: hi
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- # [23:00] <RyanVM> jlebar: so I'm clear, for bug 864382, I'm landing the two b2g18 patches, right?
- # [23:01] <RyanVM> the cherry-pick patch and the rebased patch
- # [23:01] <jlebar> RyanVM: let me see whether VIvien's newest patch contains the cherry-picked pieces.
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- # [23:02] <jlebar> RyanVM: yes, you need both.
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- # [23:02] <RyanVM> great, thanks
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- # [23:03] <TimAbraldes> where can I update a mach dependency?
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- # [23:06] <TimAbraldes> gps: ping
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- # [23:07] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: most of mach's dependencies live in python/
- # [23:07] <gps> nalexander: no, the file you created
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- # [23:07] <gps> build/dumbmake-dependencies?
- # [23:08] <TimAbraldes> yeah I guess I meant dumbmake
- # [23:08] <fryn> gps: we're looking at https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/b51316b2af6c/build/dumbmake-dependencies
- # [23:08] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: oh, I interpreted that as "software packages used by mach, like blessings"
- # [23:08] <TimAbraldes> nalexander: sorry for the confusion :)
- # [23:08] <fryn> gps: why do both toolkit and toolkit/foo
- # [23:08] <gps> dumbmake is what's used to add directories to |mach build|
- # [23:08] <fryn> need to be specified for browser/app ?
- # [23:08] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: np.
- # [23:08] <fryn> is it every subdir that has a moz.build or something?
- # [23:09] <nalexander> fryn: the algorithm is described in python/mozbuild/dumbmake/README.rst
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- # [23:09] <gps> toolkit/library is libxul. it is special. ignore that it's in /toolkit for now
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- # [23:09] <nalexander> It's, well, dumb :)
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- # [23:11] <TimAbraldes> nalexander: changes to widget/windows don't seem to trigger toolkit/library... is that expected?
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- # [23:12] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: expected? I think so, since widget/windows doesn't appear in dumbmake-dependencies. Intuitive, perhaps not.
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- # [23:13] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: the thing is, we probably don't want to search up the directory tree, since there are lots of subdirectories that you don't want to trigger parents without good cause.
- # [23:14] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: and, in fact, you probably want to special case the top directory since you don't want every directory to build the top dir (which is just a full build).
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- # [23:14] <TimAbraldes> nalexander: that makes sense
- # [23:15] <nalexander> TimAbraldes: So we stuck with the list as written rather than being clever. You could add widget/windows in the appropriate place, and either keep it as a local thing or file a ticket.
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- # [23:23] <philor> KWierso|Home: didn't you already file that failure on your uplift? it looks familiar
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- # [23:23] <KWierso|Home> philor: eh?
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- # [23:27] <philor> KWierso|Home: 880619, doesn't get suggested
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- # [23:27] <KWierso|Home> yeah, I have no clue why it isn't getting suggested
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- # [23:28] <KWierso|Home> I didn't file it any differently than the other failures...
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- # [23:28] <philor> KWierso|Home: oh, because the test filename, the thing for which we search, is the thing after the final / in the space between the first and second |
- # [23:28] <philor> as in " "
- # [23:28] <KWierso|Home> heh
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- # [23:29] <philor> we expect "FAIL | path/to/filename.ext | failure message"
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- # [23:30] <philor> "path/to/filenameishthing foopy bar baz" works, "/ baz" not so much
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- # [23:31] <KWierso|Home> philor: so "/" in a testname is a no-no?
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- # [23:36] <philor> can't find the parser offhand, but I know it grabs what's after the rightmost /, and probably grabs from it to the next space
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- # [23:39] <philor> mmm, http://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/file/668346731334/php/inc/AnnotatedSummaryGenerator.php#l100, surprised it's not searching for "emit" and finding the bug
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- # [23:41] <philor> oh, cute, we think a test name of fewer than 5 characters is unacceptably short
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- # [23:45] <philor> conveniently, you're going to bounce from inbound over it
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- # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/101be41e6536 - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 881416 - Toggle Push WebSocket when Offline mode is toggled. r=mayhemer
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