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- # [01:02] <mrbkap> dolske: ping?
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- # [01:02] <@dolske> mrbkap: hi!
- # [01:02] <mrbkap> dolske: Hey, do you happen to know if ux-central is green on try?
- # [01:03] <mrbkap> dolske: or are there oranges that you guys are actively fixing?
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- # [01:03] <@dolske> aiui we're close to greenness, but there are a few known things, like some jetpack tests.
- # [01:03] <@dolske> mrbkap: how about https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=UX ?
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- # [01:04] <mrbkap> dolske: Ah-ha, that's exactly what I was looking for!
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- # [01:04] <mrbkap> ok, these oranges seem like they might be related to my patch then :(
- # [01:05] <@dolske> got a try link?
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- # [01:06] <mrbkap> dolske: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b2d6528d77ca
- # [01:06] <mrbkap> dolske: the crashtest orange is known.
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- # [01:08] <Waldo> philor: what can you tell me, anecdotally, about the duration of the various tinderbox build types? I've been importing test262 tests into the J builds, and I'm wondering how much headroom I have before the length of time a J build takes is large enough that people get fussy about it :-)
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- # [01:09] <@dolske> mrbkap: well, doesn't look too bad at least!
- # [01:09] <mrbkap> dolske: nope, just a bit more debugging to do.
- # [01:09] <Waldo> philor: the last set of test262 tests is on the same order of magnitude as the number of J tests before I started importing test262 stuff, I think
- # [01:09] <@dolske> I don't think we're touching any devtools stuff, so not sure why that would go wonky
- # [01:10] <philor> Waldo: the goal is <= 30 minutes, but the long pole is more like an hour right now
- # [01:10] <@dolske> mrbkap: curious about the notification bar orange, but I also don't think we're touching that.
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- # [01:11] <Waldo> philor: which is the long pole?
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- # [01:11] <Waldo> J builds from a few hours ago claim to be in the 15-20ish minute range, it appears
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- # [01:12] <Waldo> which leaves some space, but even still I'm not sure I'm happy about just adding 3k tests and punting an inevitable issue to another day
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- # [01:13] <philor> Waldo: WinXP debug browser-chrome or Win7 debug xpcshell, usually
- # [01:14] <philor> KWierso|Home: looks like someone landed some bustage on inbound, could you back them out?
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- # [01:16] <KWierso|Home> philor: sorry, been booking travel today... what push?
- # [01:16] <philor> yours!
- # [01:16] <KWierso|Home> :|
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- # [01:17] <philor> somewhere between 50% and 100% on Linux, quite curious about why the jetpack tree doesn't really see it, and your computer and inbound do
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- # [01:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4ae3e1cede0a - Nick Alexander - Bug 828654, Bug 840127 - Android service for submitting Firefox Health Report payloads. r=rnewman
- # [01:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c890f39dfa6 - Richard Newman - Bug 882319 - Page load fixes for first release. r=nalexander
- # [01:19] <KWierso|Home> philor: I'll just disable that test until we can figure out why it's so flaky
- # [01:20] <KWierso|Home> if that's okay with you :)
- # [01:20] <philor> waaaagh, I wanted to see the return of expecte
- # [01:20] <philor> oh, wait, I didn't
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- # [01:22] <KWierso|Home> because, yeah, if I back that out, I unfix the other tests...
- # [01:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3dbc486831a4 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 882012: Provide Use to right hand side in CheckStoreArray; r=luke
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- # [01:23] <philor> that was why I waited past the first six or eight
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- # [01:37] <sicking> mrbkap: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/svg/content/src/SVGElementFactory.cpp#106
- # [01:37] <mrbkap> thanks
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- # [01:38] <dougt> gps: ping?
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- # [01:38] <Yuhong> I hope all these XUL bugs are open now that remote XUL has been disabled.
- # [01:38] <dougt> is EXTRA_PP_COMPONENTS a think with the new build process?
- # [01:39] <Yuhong> How to search for these XUL security bugs BTW?
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- # [01:40] <Jesse> Yuhong: ALL su,comp:xul sw,kw:"sg:","sec-"
- # [01:40] <Jesse> Yuhong: might as well toss in XBL while you're at it (they were disabled together)
- # [01:41] <Jesse> well, remote-specified XBL. sites can still trigger XBL with <marquee> and <video controls>
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- # [01:43] <gps> dougt: pong
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- # [01:43] <Jesse> Yuhong: with that search i get a fair number of bugs that are still private (core-security) :/
- # [01:43] <Yuhong> Can these be opened?
- # [01:43] <gps> dougt: perhaps you are looking for bug 880246?
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- # [01:43] <Jesse> Yuhong: lately i've been leaving that to dveditz
- # [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28d0bf47817c - Wes Johnston - Bug 878415 - Return early if the user cancels a file picker. r=liuche
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- # [01:45] <Jesse> Yuhong: looking for a bug to exploit firefox 1 users so you can force-update them? ;)
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- # [01:46] <Yuhong> No, just interested. Because of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546857 saying that "I'm obviously not going to post details about remaining security issues in a public bug", for example.
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- # [01:47] <Yuhong> Of course, this was back when 3.6 was still in support.
- # [01:48] <Yuhong> Wonder if it is possible to put an XUL validator in an add-on, BTW.
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- # [01:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65cc101ff835 - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 879631 - Change - Remove form navigation code. r=mbrubeck
- # [01:57] <@dolske> sicking: ping?
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- # [01:58] <@dolske> sicking: hey, bkap said you might have thoughts on bug 881996
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- # [02:00] <philor> hg backout -r 3dbc486831a4, "Back out 3dbc486831a4 (bug 882012) for jit-test failures on a CLOSED TREE", if anyone wants to see it reopened
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- # [02:00] <mbrubeck> I can do that
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- # [02:00] <philor> \o/
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- # [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64e8cd80963f - Matt Brubeck - Back out 3dbc486831a4 (bug 882012) for jit-test failures on a CLOSED TREE
- # [02:04] <mbrubeck> Now, what's up with jetpack tests on inbound?
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- # [02:06] <philor> mbrubeck: https://github.com/mozilla/addon-sdk/compare/90857c34030b...559fec67084c
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- # [02:06] <mbrubeck> sweet
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- # [02:06] <philor> it's making its way over to inbound, on a stagecoach
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- # [02:08] <KWierso|Home> mbrubeck, philor: ^
- # [02:08] <mbrubeck> \o/
- # [02:08] <RyanVM|afk> ooo, does this mean I might get to do a merge yet tonight?
- # [02:08] <mbrubeck> those stagecoaches are speedy
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- # [02:10] <@dolske> sicking: any clue about 881996 or who I can pester?
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- # [02:10] <philor> I wanted something more circuitous than slow, but I couldn't come up with anything
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- # [02:11] <RyanVM|afk> yikes
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- # [02:12] <philor> oh, yeah, I starred the easy stuff there and left the rest for you :)
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- # [02:13] <RyanVM|afk> meh, pretty obvious what broke it
- # [02:14] <RyanVM|afk> so, we liking Gaia Pushbot yet? :)
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- # [02:16] <Yuhong> I forgot to ask how many XUL security bugs are still not public, BTW?
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- # [02:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/abdd55c1bf8f - Jim Mathies - Bug 881104 - Fix for intermittent metro browser_selection_inputs.js. r=rsilveira
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- # [02:22] <RyanVM> did he really think someone was going to answer that question in a public channel?
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- # [02:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ac7d9177c7ee - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 863599 - Load PushService on Desktop. r=dougt sr=gavin
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- # [02:28] <Yuhong> And I do wonder if mutation events can ever be removed given that even IE10 don't implement mutation observers.
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- # [02:31] <RyanVM> philor: I think it's time to unhide the desktop b2g builds at least on osx and linux
- # [02:32] <RyanVM> though admittedly, I'm still not comfortable doing git backouts
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- # [02:33] <Yuhong> And how many tests still exist that uses enablePrivilege?
- # [02:33] <RyanVM> I'm going to guess 0 on that one
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- # [02:34] <RyanVM> Yuhong: you do realize that you can search the source for the answer to that question yourself, right?
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- # [02:35] <philor> RyanVM: apparently nothing to do with me, since I don't have any access to do git backouts, as far as I know
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- # [02:35] <RyanVM> philor: Why do I have this feeling you won't be in any rush either? :P
- # [02:36] <RyanVM> screw it, I'm not going to do an inbound merge tonight
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- # [02:37] <BenWa> RyanVM: Just a heads up. I'm going to reland bug 844288. To the best of my knowledge the previous issues have been resolved
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- # [02:38] <RyanVM> fine with me, I won't be watching anyway :)
- # [02:38] <RyanVM> oh...that bug
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- # [02:38] <BenWa> Yea =\
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- # [02:38] <RyanVM> BenWa: out of curiosity, how does one confirm that it won't break dep builds this time?
- # [02:39] <philor> oh, good, I did mention who the set of inbound sheriffs is, in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861573#c6
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- # [02:39] <BenWa> RyanVM: I've done dep build locally and audited the .deps file generated in the object directory across platforms
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- # [02:43] <luke1> Hi guys, anyone know when feature-freeze of Firefox 22 is?
- # [02:44] <RyanVM> about 2 months ago
- # [02:44] <RyanVM> sorry, 3
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- # [02:47] <RyanVM> luke1: why do you ask?
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- # [02:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/29955d1e0844 - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 826552 - Add an indicator for the title (Bookmarks, History, Remote tabs) on snapped start page. r=rsilveira
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- # [02:52] <luke1> RyanVM I was curious about the changes in the Developer tools, when we will know they're feature-complete? - for example, will the context menu in the css rule inspector really be going away
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- # [02:53] <luke1> but I couldn't find the freeze date on the Fx 22 developers page or the releases page.
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- # [02:57] <RyanVM> luke1: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar is what you want
- # [02:57] <RyanVM> when a release moves from central to aurora, it is considered feature frozen
- # [02:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e76b81594e4e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 881558 - Re-introduce try-locking in the reverb implementation; r=roc
- # [02:58] <RyanVM> luke1: so 22 was frozen as of april 1
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- # [03:00] <RyanVM> luke1: if you're looking at a specific bug in bugzilla, the Target Milestone field should tell you what release a bug was fixed for
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- # [03:01] <luke1> RyanVM: and no features will be changed in betas? I though they changed the external cookies policy recently though?
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- # [03:01] <RyanVM> luke1: AIUI, that code was already there, it was only a matter of whether it was going to be shipped enabled or not
- # [03:02] <RyanVM> I wouldn't expect developer tools to be in the same boat in that respect :)
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- # [03:02] <RyanVM> luke1: but in general, no, once a release gets on to Aurora/Beta, only patches to stabilize existing features will be accepted
- # [03:03] <RyanVM> (not to say there are never exceptions, but that is the general rule)
- # [03:03] <luke1> RyanVM: Ok, thanks. So, all betas are frozen as far as structure and UI features, everything an overlay/extension would look for?
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- # [03:03] <RyanVM> yes
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- # [03:04] <RyanVM> it's recommended that extension devs test on at least the latest beta for exactly that reason
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- # [03:05] <luke1> Good point, I'll need to get some extending adjusted on my devtools addon :)
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- # [03:07] <luke1> but, why does the Firefox 22 for devs page say it's not feature-frozen?
- # [03:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81e3146d36d3 - Terrence Cole - Bug 880886 - Always allocate AsmJS's JSFunction in tenured; r=bhackett
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- # [03:07] <RyanVM> luke1: link?
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- # [03:07] <RyanVM> but cynical answer - probably because nobody updated it :P
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- # [03:07] <RyanVM> i assure you, very little will be landed for fx22 between now and release in <2 weeks
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- # [03:09] <RyanVM> ah, the MDN page
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- # [03:11] <RyanVM> luke1: looks like that note's been there since fx22 was on m-c :)
- # [03:11] <RyanVM> sheppy would be a good person to ask about that, though he's not around atm
- # [03:11] <@ehsan> is anybody backing out Benjamin Bouvier?
- # [03:12] <@ehsan> cause I'm about to
- # [03:12] <RyanVM> ehsan: bug 882012?
- # [03:12] <RyanVM> because that's already out
- # [03:12] <RyanVM> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64e8cd80963f
- # [03:13] <@ehsan> oh right
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- # [04:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3aa27583bd92 - Nick Alexander - Bug 880234 - Use add_test in testDeviceSearchEngines. r=mfinkle
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- # [04:31] <@roc> this looks awesome --- http://dblohm7.ca/blog/2013/06/12/detecting-main-thread-i-slash-o-with-sps/
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- # [05:06] <njn> DXR doesn't seem to allow \< or \b in regexps :(
- # [05:08] <njn> nor does MXR, sigh
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- # [05:10] <Callek> njn: its glimpse style regex
- # [05:10] <Callek> (for MXR anyway)
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- # [05:11] <njn> Callek: what is a glimpse style regex?
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- # [05:12] <Callek> njn: http://webglimpse.net/gdocs/glimpsehelp.html#sect7
- # [05:13] <njn> Callek: just found that, thanks
- # [05:13] <njn> Callek: in short: "not particularly good regexp"
- # [05:13] <Callek> yea, the reason it uses that is because it uses the glimpse binary for its text search
- # [05:13] <njn> "Regular expressions are currently limited to approximately 30 characters (generally excluding meta characters)."
- # [05:13] <njn> lame
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- # [05:13] <Callek> I also fully agree
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- # [05:29] <jcranmer> I don't know, but I assume so
- # [05:30] <jcranmer> the query engine for dxr is hacky, to put it mildly :-)
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- # [07:02] <philor> did "#foo button" as a selector become reasonably acceptable while I wasn't looking?
- # [07:02] <bz> philor: depends on where
- # [07:02] <bz> philor: where are you seeing this?
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- # [07:03] <bz> philor: (I mean, it's _more_ acceptable, but still suboptimal)
- # [07:03] <philor> bz: mozilla-b2g/gaia/*
- # [07:03] <bz> philor: probably ok, then
- # [07:03] <bz> philor: if it's not in stylesheets that are loaded for web content
- # [07:03] <bz> philor: in that it can only hurt the gaia UI and presumably we already measure that
- # [07:04] <philor> hahahaha
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- # [07:04] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/happy-bmo-push-day-50/
- # [07:04] <bz> philor: no comment. ;)
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- # [07:05] <reuben> glob: is there a bug on file for anchors not working correctly with the mozilla theme, because of its floating header thingie?
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- # [07:05] <glob> reuben, not that i'm aware of
- # [07:05] * glob looks
- # [07:06] <glob> reuben, yes, bug 848455
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- # [07:06] <reuben> thanks!
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- # [07:14] <jaws> glob: \o/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881348
- # [07:15] <jaws> any debugging tips for this type of exception? "Unexpected exception: TypeError: Value does not implement interface Node."
- # [07:15] <jaws> i've hit it before, and if i remember right it can happen if the element is not in a document
- # [07:15] <bz> uh
- # [07:15] <bz> what can?
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- # [07:15] <jaws> Unexpected exception: TypeError: Value does not implement interface Node.
- # [07:16] <jaws> but i could have made up the reasoning
- # [07:16] <bz> well, if you do something.appendChild(element.parentNode)
- # [07:16] <bz> and the element has no parent...
- # [07:16] <bz> or something
- # [07:16] <jaws> ok, i'll check that. thanks
- # [07:16] <bz> But just not being in a document does not change it being a Node
- # [07:16] <bz> What's on the line where the exception is thrown?
- # [07:16] <jaws> yeah, that makes more senese
- # [07:18] <jaws> hard to tell because the line numbers aren't matching up. still looking...
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- # [07:20] <jaws> i think it's this line, aWrapper.parentNode.replaceChild(toolbarItem, aWrapper);
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- # [07:20] <bz> yeah, so toolbarItem is probably null
- # [07:20] <bz> is my guess
- # [07:20] <bz> or undefined or something
- # [07:20] <jaws> yeah, most likely. thanks
- # [07:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/864acd590539 - James Kitchener - Bug 796850 - Implement WebIDL parser support for Bytestring r=bz
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- # [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a96d87d45173 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 880367 part 1. Change the "enabled" callback for WebIDL constructors to take a JSContext* and the object the constructor will be defined on. r=smaug,bholley
- # [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bf20eaca9ff - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 880367 part 3. Add support for [ChromeOnly] on interface objects. r=smaug
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- # [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/653f259d5d99 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 880367 part 2. Make ordering of named constructors in codegen deterministic. r=smaug
- # [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2cb618e6b57c - James Kitchener - Bug 796850 - Implement Code Generation for Bytestring in WebIDL bindings r=bz
- # [07:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/708f6cd81acb - James Kitchener - Bug 796850 - Change XMLHttpRequest interface to support ByteString r=bz
- # [07:22] <reuben> neat
- # [07:22] <jaws> yeah toolbarItem is null
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- # [07:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37eb86cb83e5 - Jesse Ruderman - Bug 882037 - Fix incorrectly escaped %, and use semicolons after comma-separated lists. r=luke
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- # [07:28] <basanta> I am looking for firefox-17.0.1.tar.bz2 where can I find it ?
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- # [07:30] <Mook> basanta: out of curiosity: why are you looking for that particular version? (looking it up, one moment...)
- # [07:30] <reuben> basanta: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/17.0.1/
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- # [07:31] <basanta> reuben, reubin from laptop.org?
- # [07:31] <reuben> wat
- # [07:32] <reuben> basanta: no
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- # [07:32] <basanta> reuben, oh sorry
- # [07:33] <basanta> reuben, was trying to build this specific version for olpc laptops , so
- # [07:33] <reuben> basanta: why this specific verison?
- # [07:33] <Mook> and not, say, 17.0.6esr ?
- # [07:33] <reuben> ^
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- # [07:36] <basanta> reuben, need to make adobe_flash working and tested that its working for this version
- # [07:38] <basanta> reuben, but I need a version built for ARM
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- # [08:22] <basanta> I am not being able to build firefox for ARM, is there a way I am request somebody to do it ?
- # [08:23] <mjrosenb> basanta: what problems are you running into?
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- # [08:27] <basanta> mjrosenb, having /lib/libGL.so.1 undefined reference to glapi_tls_Dispatch error
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- # [08:37] <gaston_> glob: ooh was the 'email sent to XXX ppl (show more)' thing recently landed to bmo ? love this!
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- # [08:44] <philor> jrmuizel: did about:home on 32-bit linux actually need those uneeded includes, or did it somehow coincidentally break on you?
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- # [08:46] <philor> ah, hello one of the two being busted on the not-his-fault-either njn push before you
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- # [08:47] <philor> Mr. browser_capabilities.js: are you touching the network, or yourself?
- # [08:48] <jrmuizel> philor: what are the failing tests?
- # [08:48] <jrmuizel> ah I see it
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- # [08:50] <philor> and since it's not actually doing anything with snippets, I think that just means "you really shouldn't be loading about:home unless you've first neutered it"
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- # [08:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5917b4a5479 - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 874963 - Work - popups don't move when scrolling. r=fryn
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- # [08:54] <philor> ttaubert: ping
- # [08:54] <jrmuizel> philor: I get the same "TypeError: snippets is undefined" when loading about:home in Nightly
- # [08:54] <bz> hmm
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- # [08:54] <philor> probably means the snippet server is busted
- # [08:54] <bz> so the about:home thing is broken on my push too
- # [08:54] <jrmuizel> I thought the test slaves did not have access to the snippet server
- # [08:54] <bz> on Windows
- # [08:55] <bz> and I'm pretty sure I did not touch about:home stuff....
- # [08:55] <philor> and the actual about:home test isn't failing, because it sensibly neuters it, loading them locally
- # [08:55] <bz> Though I did land a change to XHR
- # [08:55] <bz> which was green on try
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- # [08:56] <philor> yeah, it's not you, or you, or him, it's IT and a test that uses an unsafe page
- # [08:57] <ayas_swain> Hi , Is this the correct forum to ask technical questions about Mozilla Firefox
- # [08:57] <ayas_swain> ?
- # [08:57] <philor> but no, the test slaves have (undependable) network access, we've never managed to turn it off
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- # [08:58] <philor> maybe sometime in the next cycle we'll have a horrifying Day Without Network and find out just how many things are misbehaving
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- # [09:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9387dd4af2e2 - Mark Capella - Bug 868222 - Tab increment animation displays an artifact, r=wesj
- # [09:00] <bz> philor: :(
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- # [09:00] <bz> bah
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- # [09:03] <firebot> nbp was last seen 6 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying 'Ms2ger: b3g, stands for Boot Gonk & Gecko & Gaia ?' in #jsapi.
- # [09:03] <mjrosenb> pto?
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- # [09:32] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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- # [09:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57e0a788b159 - Seth Fowler - Bug 600207 (Part 2) - Tests for SVG image scaling in the presence of page zoom. r=dholbert
- # [09:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50d93261dbb8 - Seth Fowler - Bug 600207 (Part 1) - Avoid fuzzy SVGs on the tiling path by matrix twiddling. r=dholbert
- # [09:49] <heycam> seth++
- # [09:49] <heycam> that has been bugging me for ages :)
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- # [10:19] <bz> NeilAway: there is no spec for the error messages
- # [10:20] <bz> NeilAway: and ours could be better
- # [10:20] <bz> NeilAway: at some cost in complexity....
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- # [10:27] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: jaws hit "TypeError: Value does not implement interface Node" and I was wondering whether it was worth special-casing null
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- # [10:30] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: interestingly in the face of completely bogus parameters xpidl will tell you which argument it failed to convert
- # [10:30] <NeilAway> (doesn't help for null pointers which was the case jaws had)
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- # [10:35] <bz_sleep> We could certainly do better error reporting for stuff like that
- # [10:36] <bz_sleep> file a bug
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- # [10:42] <gaston_> hmm Q re tbpl, for the platforms where there's no B and it only starts with M, does it mean a build from another(compatible) platform from the same push is used to run the tests ?
- # [10:43] <gaston_> like, the OSX 10.7 builds are used to run the tests on 10.6 & 10.8 ?
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- # [10:44] <Ms2ger> Exactly
- # [10:44] <gaston_> ok, i understand better now :)
- # [10:44] <Ms2ger> And the builds from fedora are run on ubuntu tests (mostly)
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- # [10:48] <gaston_> and when some builds/tests are restarted out of nowhere, it's because something was detected wrong, but not critical ? how is it different from an infra issue (ie purple) ?
- # [10:49] <gaston_> the restart is automatic or the sheriff triggers it ?
- # [10:49] <KWierso|Home> automatic, afaict
- # [10:50] <KWierso|Home> which can get you huge rows of pretty blue letters if it repeatedly fails over and over :)
- # [10:50] <gaston_> it seems to be linked with intermittent-failure in the keywords..
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- # [10:52] <Ms2ger> Blue ones should be infra, like hgmo falling over again
- # [10:54] <gaston_> i'm trying to understand the blue on android 2.2 opt in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=59181cb244fd
- # [10:54] <gaston_> pointing back to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874972
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- # [10:56] <Ms2ger> I don't remember where the list of blue failures lives exactly... edmorley?
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- # [10:58] <gaston_> Ms2ger: wild guess: all bugs with intermittent-failures in keywords
- # [10:58] <KWierso|Home> nope
- # [10:59] <KWierso|Home> that's just how to get tbpl to find the bug based on the logs
- # [10:59] <gaston_> ah ok
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- # [11:00] <edmorley> Ms2ger: looking
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- # [11:01] <edmorley> gaston_: https://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/295d38078242/status/errors.py#l5
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- # [11:02] <gaston_> oh, okay
- # [11:02] <edmorley> the RETRY state results in buildbot automatically retrying the job (and TBPL displays the job blue)
- # [11:02] <Ms2ger> ((re.compile("FAIL"), FAILURE),)
- # [11:02] <edmorley> lol
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- # [11:02] <gaston_> so if the msg is in one of those, it turns into a blue and automatically restarts instead of turning into a purple and waiting for human intervention ?
- # [11:02] <edmorley> correct
- # [11:02] <gaston_> ok, got it
- # [11:03] <gaston_> insane automation :)
- # [11:03] <Ms2ger> No kidding
- # [11:03] <edmorley> gaston_: the RETRY state, whilst convenient, has to be used in moderation, since if it's a failure mode that can be caused by a checkin, the build/test jobs will retry ad-finitum
- # [11:04] <Ms2ger> Which would be a little annoying, perhaps
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- # [11:06] <Ms2ger> edmorley, would it be a strange idea to suggest disabling tests that touch about:home?
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- # [11:06] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I was musing over the idea
- # [11:07] <edmorley> Ms2ger: and yeah runaway buildbot builds are annoying (especially on Try where they'll likely go unnoticed)
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- # [11:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e131dababbaa - Ed Morley - Merge latest green birch changeset and mozilla-central
- # [11:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9db846130368 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s)
- # [11:30] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/75be201c24a8 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 880217 - [MMS]'undefined' tag appears instead of MMS in thread list view. r=gene.lian a=leo+
- # [11:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eeceac81b3e3 - Edgar Chen - Bug 880369 - Part 2: Xpcshell tests for mcc table. r=allstars.chh
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- # [11:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7eb2fe2b8551 - Edgar Chen - Bug 880369 - Part 1: Check mcc table if EFad dose not contain the length of mnc. r=allstars.chh
- # [11:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9db846130368 - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s)
- # [11:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d9c58d8d762 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and inbound
- # [11:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75be201c24a8 - Chia-hung Tai - Bug 880217 - [MMS]'undefined' tag appears instead of MMS in thread list view. r=gene.lian a=leo+
- # [11:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e131dababbaa - Ed Morley - Merge latest green birch changeset and mozilla-central
- # [11:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eeceac81b3e3 - Edgar Chen - Bug 880369 - Part 2: Xpcshell tests for mcc table. r=allstars.chh
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- # [11:42] <jfkthame> is it just me, or is tbpl having difficulties? (not just for try - can't seem to load other trees either)
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- # [11:45] <Gijs> jfkthame: works here...
- # [11:46] <Gijs> edmorley: sooooo bc just went a nice and bright orange on UX, but it's a very recent intermittent failure, and looking at the cset that turned it orange I don't see why that'd matter - but there's a pretty big m-c merge cset right before it.
- # [11:46] <jfkthame> Gijs: hmm, maybe something about my connection or browser session then - thx
- # [11:46] <Gijs> edmorley: Bug 882575 - Intermittent browser_capabilities.js | uncaught exception - TypeError: snippets is undefined at about:home:89 ?
- # [11:46] <gaston_> Gijs: this one is very recent yeah
- # [11:47] * jfkthame quits and relaunches nightly - aha, that seems to have helped
- # [11:48] <Gijs> It doesn't look very intermittent on inbound either, though. :s
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- # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Gijs, yeah, see the bug they're starred with
- # [11:49] <edmorley> Gijs: it's due to that test using about:home, which relies on working snippets from snippets.m.o
- # [11:49] <Gijs> :(
- # [11:49] <edmorley> ie "crappy tests using third party sites"
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- # [11:49] <edmorley> well, or more we should stub out the snippets in about:home in automation
- # [11:50] <Gijs> edmorley: can you point me to where that stubbing lives?
- # [11:51] <Gijs> (filename will do)
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- # [11:51] <edmorley> it's in multiple places for all of our test harnesses (annoyingly)
- # [11:51] <Gijs> Aha.
- # [11:52] <edmorley> looking
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- # [11:55] <edmorley> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/tools/reftest/remotereftest.py#339
- # [11:55] <glandium> want to hear a good one? my moco address has been removed
- # [11:55] <edmorley> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/profiles/prefs_general.js#67
- # [11:55] <Gijs> That looks like reftests?
- # [11:55] <Gijs> Oh, that's sad.
- # [11:55] <Gijs> and we still get test failures from the url classifier.
- # [11:55] * Gijs cries a little.
- # [11:56] <Gijs> Anyway.
- # [11:56] <edmorley> https://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos/file/7d4ae29b7d1f/talos/PerfConfigurator.py#l222
- # [11:56] <edmorley> and that's mostly it I think
- # [11:56] <edmorley> glandium: oops
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- # [11:56] <Gijs> I forgot we did that. That's remote XUL, isn't it?
- # [11:56] <Yoric> Remote XUL?
- # [11:56] <edmorley> special powerz
- # [11:56] <Yoric> That was a long time ago.
- # [11:57] <Yoric> UniversalXPConnect!
- # [11:57] <glandium> edmorley: especially since that's the address elance has to contact me
- # [11:58] <edmorley> :-(
- # [11:58] <Gijs> edmorley: so we don't have anything for mochitest-chrome tests?
- # [11:58] <gaston_> glandium: duh, why ?
- # [11:58] <edmorley> Gijs: I think they use prefs_general.js, though jmaher would know
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- # [11:59] <glandium> gaston_: because i'm technically not an employee anymore. and as such, i'm going through employment termination procedures (which means i get all the PTO i didn't get, paid)
- # [11:59] <NeilAway> bah, tinderbox's favicon is password-protected ;-)
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- # [11:59] <glandium> and i guess that's been done oversealously
- # [12:00] <gaston_> meh :(
- # [12:00] <glandium> overzealously
- # [12:00] <gaston_> would have been nicer to make a temporary .forward for X months :)
- # [12:01] <edmorley> AutomatedTester has his entire LDAP account deleted recently since someone with a similar (real) name left
- # [12:01] <glandium> gaston_: the best part is that as i'm going to be a contractor, they'll have to recreate the account
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- # [12:02] <gaston_> ..... :)
- # [12:02] <glandium> or i'm mistaken, and that means i'm not going to be a contractor
- # [12:02] <gaston_> too big to fail :)
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- # [12:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b197bed90a98 - Ed Morley - Bug 882575 - Disable browser_capabilities.js for failing when snippets.mozilla.org is down (via use of about:home)
- # [12:22] <mak> edmorley: that's incorrect, the page has no problem when snippets is down, see my comment
- # [12:22] <mak> edmorley: the problem is that snippets ARE NOT down
- # [12:22] <mak> they are serving bogus content
- # [12:23] <edmorley> mak: ok s/down/foo/ but we shouldn't hit resources outside of the build network
- # [12:23] <edmorley> mak: missed your comment in the bug before committing :-)
- # [12:23] <mak> edmorley: sure, but the page nor the tests rely on those resources, it's unfortunate those resources atm are serving bogus js
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- # [12:24] <mak> edmorley: so, it could be enough to change the update pref to point to a nonexisting uri
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- # [12:24] <mak> browser.aboutHomeSnippets.updateUrl
- # [12:24] <edmorley> agreed, but until that's done, that test can stay disabled (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/Job_Visibility_Policy#8.29_Must_avoid_patterns_known_to_cause_non_deterministic_failures)
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- # [12:25] <mak> I don't even know what that test does
- # [12:26] <mak> hm, offhand you could just change it to use about:robots
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- # [12:28] <Ms2ger> mak, will that break SeaMonkey?
- # [12:28] <mak> what?
- # [12:28] * NeilAway doesn't think we even have about:home
- # [12:28] <mak> this is a browser test
- # [12:29] <mak> I don't think it even exists in SM
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- # [12:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b197bed90a98 - Ed Morley - Bug 882575 - Disable browser_capabilities.js for failing when snippets.mozilla.org is down (via use of about:home)
- # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/538b776fd96e - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and inbound
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- # [12:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8938a1dde5cb - Panos Astithas - Fix an intermittent failure in browser/devtools/debugger/test/browser_dbg_step-out.js (bug 882380); r=me
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- # [12:51] * Gijs wonders if we optimize :root in CSS selectors
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- # [12:57] <NeilAway> Gijs: no
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- # [12:57] <Gijs> :(
- # [12:57] <NeilAway> Gijs: (I asked heycam last night)
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- # [12:57] <NeilAway> Gijs: yeah, it would be really neat if we could efficiently set an attribute on the root to change the appearance of the UI :-)
- # [12:58] <Gijs> Exactly.
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- # [13:09] <mitsuhiko> anyone familiar with the firefox http stack? i just noticed that the new network monitor url decodes headers. is there a specific rason for this?
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- # [13:37] <Gijs> mitsuhiko: that sounds like more of a developer tools thing than an http stack thing; asking in #devtools might get you an answer more quickly.
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- # [13:37] <mitsuhiko> Gijs: thanks
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- # [13:46] <jmaher|afk> edmorley: Gijs: did you figure out your question about prefs_general.js?
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- # [13:46] <jmaher> Ms2ger: bah
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- # [13:46] <Gijs> jmaher: I did, sort of. :)
- # [13:47] <edmorley> jmaher: yeah mostly, the issue that sparked the discussion has now been filed as bug 882610
- # [13:47] <Gijs> (as in, I just saw the inbound checkins by ed and mak's comments, so I now understand what I was trying to understand. :)
- # [13:48] <jmaher> edmorley: ahh, yeah- we can change that pref easily, just need to make sure we don't screw things up by pointing it at a blank page or a 404
- # [13:49] <edmorley> jmaher: yeah and I'm guessing the snippets are fairly critical to test, so will likely need a local server setup to replace it
- # [13:49] <jmaher> edmorley: we could do it with .sjs
- # [13:49] <jmaher> I can't believe I would recommend that
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- # [13:49] <edmorley> lol
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- # [14:04] <nemo> roc: so only backed out on beta means I should keep expecting to run into https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=870794 on my alpha/nightly browser sessions right
- # [14:04] <nemo> roc: I guess that was just to avoid a bad bug getting into beta, while a fix was figured out?
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- # [14:09] <@roc> yes
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- # [14:10] <nemo> durn. oh well. I have this habit of doing must web dev in nightlies, but, can switch to stable for a while :)
- # [14:10] <nemo> well. I've been on stable for quite a while already due to this. I should have mentioned it earlier. It finally irritated me enough to complain
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- # [14:51] <JosiahOne> I don't get this. If in function A I have this line: var testScroll = window.setInterval(function(){continueTest()}, 10);
- # [14:52] <JosiahOne> And in continueTest() I have this line:
- # [14:52] <JosiahOne> window.clearInterval(testScroll);
- # [14:52] <JosiahOne> My try run is saying that testScroll is not defined. Is there something obvious I missed here?
- # [14:52] <nemo> um. *in* function A you have "var testScroll" not globally scoped?
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- # [14:53] <nemo> or scoped such that continueTest has access
- # [14:53] <JosiahOne> So it should just be:
- # [14:53] <JosiahOne> testScroll = window.setInterval(function(){continueTest()}, 10);
- # [14:53] <Ms2ger> No
- # [14:53] <JosiahOne> Gah. I really need to read more about javascript. I'm so confused.
- # [14:53] <Ms2ger> It should be window.setTimeout(continueTest, 10)
- # [14:54] <Ms2ger> Though using either in a test... That's a paddlin'
- # [14:54] <Gijs> JosiahOne: why are you having to use a setTimeout in the first place?
- # [14:54] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: It's unfortunately necessary.
- # [14:54] <nemo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Scope_Cheatsheet
- # [14:54] <Gijs> define 'necessary'.
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- # [14:55] <Ms2ger> kats, lovely
- # [14:56] <kats> Ms2ger: thanks
- # [14:56] <JosiahOne> Gijs: This tests the position of a scrollY position that should be greater than zero when you use home/end. However, now that the scrolling animates, we can't check immediately anymore. So I use setInterval to check for success every 10 ms, I also have a setTimeout that gets called after 10 seconds. If we haven't finished in ten seconds, this part of the test should fail.
- # [14:57] <Gijs> Why don't you use an onscroll handler?
- # [14:57] <Gijs> Or does that not get fired in this case?
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- # [14:57] <JosiahOne> Well, the line that calls it is this: document.commandDispatcher.getControllerForCommand("cmd_moveBottom").doCommand("cmd_moveBottom");
- # [14:58] <Gijs> That's not an answer. I'd try it and see, tbh. :)
- # [14:58] <Gijs> if you can do this with an eventhandler instead of setTimeout, that's pretty much always better.
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- # [14:59] <JosiahOne> Gijs: I'm sure it is. I really don't know what I'm doing here. But I discovered this when I added the animated scrolling and had to fix the test. I really don't know a whole lot about javascript. :)
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- # [15:00] <JosiahOne> Gijs: The fix got review+, though it shouldn't have. Since now it lead to an intermittent failure, which is what I'm trying to fix now.
- # [15:00] <JosiahOne> Gijs: Bug 873727
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- # [15:01] <Gijs> JosiahOne: so I tested really quickly, and it seems to work.
- # [15:01] <Gijs> Although it fires several times.
- # [15:01] * Gijs pokes
- # [15:01] <JosiahOne> Gijs: Tested what? Using an eventhandler?
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- # [15:02] <Gijs> Yes.
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- # [15:03] <Gijs> JosiahOne: so, is this a browser chrome test?
- # [15:03] <JosiahOne> Gijs: Yes, test_showcaret.
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- # [15:04] <Gijs> window.content.addEventListener("scroll", function(e) { if (e.target.defaultView.scrollY == 0) { SimpleTest.finish() } }, false);
- # [15:04] <JosiahOne> Well. Mochitest other. (Not sure if they are the same)
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- # [15:05] <Gijs> So essentially, you want to add an event listener to the content window (not the browser window, but the thing that's in your tab/content pane) that listens for scroll events.
- # [15:05] <Gijs> In there, you can check the (content window again) scrollY property.
- # [15:05] <Gijs> For the last of the fired scroll events, it should be 0.
- # [15:05] <Gijs> If not, the test will time out by itself.
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- # [15:06] <Gijs> I'd personally advise against doing any further setTimeout checking waiting for that to happen.
- # [15:06] <Gijs> But maybe other people disagree with that (notably your reviewer might do)
- # [15:06] <Gijs> In any case, only one way to find out. :)
- # [15:07] <JosiahOne> Gijs: Alright. That looks like a good approach.
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- # [15:12] <JosiahOne> Gijs: Oh, one last thing. That will check for success, but if it times out, how would I tell it to do: ok(frames[0].scrollY > 0, "scrollY for non-showcaret"); like it suppose to?
- # [15:12] <JosiahOne> it's*
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- # [15:14] <JosiahOne> In other words, how do I detect if the test timed out?
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- # [15:20] <Gijs> You don't, the test does that.
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- # [15:21] <JosiahOne> So I just let it timeout, and I'm done?
- # [15:21] <Gijs> I think so.
- # [15:21] <Gijs> But again, your reviewer may feel differently.
- # [15:22] <JosiahOne> Well alright. I'll go ahead with that. It sounds good to me. :)
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- # [15:27] <JosiahOne> Thanks!
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- # [15:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b07aac272d6 - Varun Joshi - Bug 862765 - Fixed undefined OS.Shared.TEST. r=yoric
- # [15:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c164a4079878 - Mike de Boer - Bug 860119 - Live-update about:home page when defaultEngine property changes. r=mak
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- # [15:37] <mounir> is bugzilla slow as hell only for me?
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- # [15:39] <RyanVM> same here
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- # [15:40] <@gavin> yeah, kinda slow
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- # [15:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbb2eb06412d - Jan Beich - Bug 844818 - Make WebRTC aware of --enable-alsa/--enable-pulseaudio. r=jesup,ted
- # [15:41] <gaston_> slow it is
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- # [15:42] <RyanVM> meh, we don't really need a working bug tracker anyway
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- # [15:42] <@gavin> grr, it's annoying
- # [15:43] <darkowlzz> yzen, ping!
- # [15:43] <RyanVM> gavin: chair fight!
- # [15:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77c32a55c48b - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 872352 - Simplify edges/liquid-resize benchmarks rs=tests
- # [15:44] <gaston_> glob|away: is there a bug open to have the login/passwd/persona login header on the 'your password was wrong, plz press back & retry' page on bugzilla ?
- # [15:44] <gaston_> (that would, well, remove the need to press back :)
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- # [15:48] <yzen> darkowlzz: hey
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- # [15:49] <darkowlzz> yzen, hi, if I insert a LOG inside toolkit/components/osfile/osfile_async_front.jsm, where and when do I get to see the logs?
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- # [15:50] <darkowlzz> yzen, this is regarding the same bug which we were discussion on a few days back
- # [15:50] <reuben> I wish my test profile loaded as fast as the one used by mochitests does
- # [15:50] <yzen> darkowlzz: is this for testing purposes?
- # [15:50] <reuben> what is their secret?!
- # [15:51] <darkowlzz> yes, I also have a mochitest
- # [15:51] <darkowlzz> I need to LOG the values in a variable
- # [15:51] <darkowlzz> if you remembered, there was a constructor which wasn't behaving as it should
- # [15:52] <darkowlzz> yzen, ^
- # [15:52] <glob> gaston_, no bug, but there isn't a hook on that page so just hit back
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- # [15:54] <yzen> darkowlzz: right so you could use Services.console listeners to do this but in that case you need DEBUG and TEST flag set (you can see how LOG works in that case)
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- # [15:56] <gaston_> glob: that means it's not easily doable ?
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- # [15:57] <glob> gaston_, right -- we'd have to get a new hook into upstream bugzilla and then use that. given how trivial the workaround is, it won't get much attention
- # [15:58] <@ted> reuben: probably just almost no extensions + we redirect all the update checks to localhost
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- # [15:59] <darkowlzz> yzen, so first I have to register a console listener and then listen to the log message in the listener
- # [16:00] <yzen> darkowlzz: yes i believe so
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- # [16:00] <yzen> just like some of the tests in osfile
- # [16:00] <darkowlzz> oh! you mean the service listener should be inside a test
- # [16:00] <steve> guys - trying to get GtkMozEmbed working again ... it's been out of the tree for a long time (since ff 4). got it compiling but there's some voodoo going on that I don't understand at the moment so having difficulty getting it running. is anyone interested in helping resurrect this ?
- # [16:00] <darkowlzz> yzen, ^^
- # [16:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9e6eb0d5239 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 881461 - Fix INITPROP/INITELEM GETTER/SETTER ops to leave values on the stack for the decompiler. r=bhackett
- # [16:01] <@ted> steve: you might check with martin stransky, he's been working on the gtk3 port
- # [16:01] <@ted> bug 627699
- # [16:02] <steve> thanks ted.
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- # [16:05] <darkowlzz> yzen, got it!!
- # [16:06] <yzen> Dagger: yes sorry, that's right
- # [16:06] <@smaug> urm, bugzilla is slow
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- # [16:06] <glob> smaug, it isn't too bad for me
- # [16:06] <glob> smaug, slow viewing a bug? slow updating? slow searching?
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- # [16:07] <steve> @ted: that looks to be core gtk3 support, not GtkMozEmbed ... not sure that's 100% relevant. I just want a simple test app I can use to hack out access to the opengl draw surface from so I can render pages in a 3D app.
- # [16:07] <@ted> steve: i'm just saying he might be interested
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- # [16:08] <@ted> also you're like the 100th person to reimplement that wheel :-(
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- # [16:08] * @ted wishes we would have landed cwiiis' offscreen work
- # [16:08] <steve> understood. if you guys want third party developers to use your tech you need to maintain a minimalistic interface we can work from. seem to remember having to twist someone's arm to keep winembed in the tree ages ago. here we go again ...
- # [16:09] <@smaug> glob: slow updating
- # [16:09] <@ted> it's a tough thing to do, we accumulated a lot of technical debt and our embedding interfaces were crappy anyway :-/
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- # [16:09] <steve> your embedding interface (winembed) is basic but that's just what I need .. went to do the same on linux & oh ... it got dropped :(
- # [16:10] <@ted> sorry
- # [16:10] <glob> smaug, sees sane to me. which bug are you updating?
- # [16:10] <@smaug> glob: let me update some other bug
- # [16:10] <@ted> i think we'd probably take patches, ask bsmedberg
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- # [16:10] <@smaug> maybe it was temporary slowness
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- # [16:11] <glob> smaug, i have logs, so if you provide the bug number i can investigate :)
- # [16:11] <clever> steve: one idea you could use, is a firefox extension (or xpcom app maybe?) which will take URL's over tcp, load it in a frame, then screencap it (canvas operation), and pass the png back
- # [16:11] <@smaug> glob: it was at least about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882547
- # [16:11] <@smaug> but also something else
- # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> steve: What's the issue?
- # [16:12] <steve> @clever - no ... sync shared surfaces all the way or it's way too slow. gotta run at 60 fps. done on windoze. next up linux fun & games.
- # [16:12] <clever> ah
- # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> winembed is merely an example of how to use the embedding API
- # [16:12] <glob> smaug, thanks, will poke it it when i'm out of this meeting
- # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> using it on linux should be pretty similar
- # [16:12] <steve> hi benjamin - trying to ressurect Gtk embedding test app
- # [16:12] <clever> for a simple webpage, it would work, but yeah, if you try to do any high fps stuff thru that method, it wont be good
- # [16:13] <clever> depends heavily on how much the dom is redrawing
- # [16:13] <yzen> Yoric: ping
- # [16:13] <Yoric> yzen: semi-pong
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- # [16:13] <yzen> Yoric: i think i wrote the benchmarking tool, i was wondering if you'd have time some time this week to see if makes sense to you
- # [16:14] <Yoric> yzen: Probably not today, but I can try and look at it tomorrow.
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- # [16:14] <yzen> Yoric: alright, ill post a patch with it along with my findings, thanks
- # [16:14] <steve> @bsmedberg - right. so the GTK example has been out of the tree since 4.0. got it compiling. I'm a linux noob so got o/s tools issues to learn too & the debuggers suck :(
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- # [16:16] <stransky> steve, we have the gtkmozembed patch in RHEL, recently for Firefox 17 ESR.
- # [16:16] <@bsmedberg> steve: gtkmozembed was an API that wrapped the embedding API and was removed, so it's in fact very different from winembed
- # [16:16] <@bsmedberg> winembed is just an example
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- # [16:16] <stransky> steve, so you can take the patch and update for latest trunk
- # [16:16] <steve> winembed in beautiful
- # [16:16] <@bsmedberg> if somebody wants to write an example similar to winembed that works on Linux, I'm all for it
- # [16:16] <steve> *us
- # [16:16] <steve> *is
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- # [16:18] <steve> @stransky - is the source for that available ?
- # [16:18] <steve> please
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- # [16:19] <stransky> src rpm
- # [16:19] <steve> cheers
- # [16:19] <stransky> ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/xulrunner-17.0.6-2.el6_4.src.rpm for instance
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- # [16:20] <stransky> steve, you need add-gtkmozembed-17.0.patch and maybe some other
- # [16:21] <steve> this is why this should be in the tree ... everything on linux ends up 10x more complicated than it is on windoze ..
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- # [16:21] <stransky> but we love it anyway :)
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- # [16:22] <steve> I love the theory. it's the practice that has me frustrated but I'm a linux dev noob. so please excuse my frustration :)
- # [16:22] <@ted> i wouldn't say *everything*
- # [16:22] <@ted> developing on windows is way more painful than on linux
- # [16:22] <steve> depends what you
- # [16:22] <steve> 're doing.
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- # [16:23] <froydnj> currently just trying to install the sdk is way more painful, I can't imagine it can improve much from here
- # [16:23] <steve> windows has some gotchas - can't render windows offscreen for example but on the whole it just works (tm)
- # [16:23] <@bsmedberg> JavaScript error: chrome://browser/content/urlbarBindings.xml, line 1398: Value does not implement interface Element.
- # [16:23] <@bsmedberg> What does that message actually mean?
- # [16:24] <Gijs> bsmedberg: something was passed that wasn't an element to a method that expected an element. A good possibility is that what you passed is null or undefined.
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- # [16:24] <Gijs> bsmedberg: coincidentally, there was some discussion about these (webidl) error messages in here earlier today (Europe time, so maybe yesterday night for you)
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- # [16:25] <Gijs> NeilAway: ^^ did you ever file a bug abou tthis?
- # [16:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd495b445752 - Geoff Brown - Bug 876456 - (3) Tweak dumpsys command in adb getTopActivity; r=blassey
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- # [16:26] * Gijs isn't finding it with quicksearch, at least
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- # [16:28] <jaws> NeilAway, Ms2ger: i filed bug 882653 and cc'd you
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- # [16:29] <Ms2ger> Thanks
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- # [16:29] <Ms2ger> gps, bmo seems slow while touching that ^
- # [16:31] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, fwiw, it has happened to me that I landed the wrong patch
- # [16:32] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: ah yeah, that happened once to me also
- # [16:32] <joe> wth, my try build just gave me TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | xpccheck | test test_bug608142.js is missing from test manifest /builds/slave/try-and-noion-0000000000000000/build/js/xpconnect/tests/unit/xpcshell.ini!
- # [16:32] <Ms2ger> But rarely enough that I don't think we need to care much about that
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- # [16:32] <Ms2ger> joe, sounds like you added a test and forgot to change xpcshell.ini
- # [16:32] <joe> off mozilla-central
- # [16:32] <joe> no
- # [16:32] <Gijs> joe: didn't people land autogenerated xpcshell.ini ?
- # [16:32] <Ms2ger> Gijs, no
- # [16:32] <@bsmedberg> autogenerated?
- # [16:32] <joe> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b1692f1dae7a
- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Only autogenerated *master* xpcshell.ini
- # [16:33] <@bsmedberg> yeah, that makes more sense
- # [16:33] <Gijs> bsmedberg: there was a newsgroup message about what Ms2ger just said.
- # [16:33] <joe> i didn't change any tests
- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> Weird
- # [16:33] <Ms2ger> ted, ^
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- # [16:35] <@ted> um
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- # [16:35] <Yoric> ehsan: I'm curious, what's the status of the editor, exactly? Is it actively being improved?
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- # [16:37] <Ms2ger> Yoric, barely
- # [16:37] <@ehsan> Yoric: abandoned
- # [16:37] <Ms2ger> I touched it just now
- # [16:37] <Yoric> ok
- # [16:38] <Ms2ger> But I should look out that I don't get to own it
- # [16:38] <Yoric> Is contentEditable related to the editor?
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- # [16:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35571f6b5c82 - Jim Mathies - Bug 880739 - add some debug logging to browser_context_menu_tests.js. r=bbondy
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- # [16:39] <Ms2ger> Yes
- # [16:40] <@ehsan> Yoric: what do you want to know exactly? :)
- # [16:40] <Yoric> I'm just curious.
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- # [16:41] <froydnj> so I have vc2010 express installed and the windows 8 sdk, running the start-msvc10 scripts from mozilla-build, and I can't run configure because the linker can't find kernel32.lib. what might be wrong?
- # [16:41] <Yoric> I'm trying to make an inventory of things that need to be touched as part of project Async.
- # [16:41] <Yoric> I'm wondering whether I should investigate module editor.
- # [16:41] <Yoric> If it's dying, well, I obviously don't.
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- # [16:42] <Ms2ger> It's not dying
- # [16:42] <Ms2ger> Only abandoned
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- # [16:43] <@ehsan> yeah
- # [16:43] <@ehsan> it's not going to go anywhere in the foreseeable future
- # [16:43] <@ehsan> that is, as long as we plan to ship gecko ;)
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- # [16:43] * Ms2ger wonders if anyone is going to do editor-in-rust
- # [16:44] <mikedeboer> I always wondered if the editor could be (re)developed in JS (like, with web components, for example)
- # [16:44] <Ms2ger> Hah, web components
- # [16:44] * Ms2ger remembers the times when we implemented input with xbl
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- # [16:45] <tbsaunde> I think ehsan has said it would take some chrome only stuff to implement
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- # [16:45] <tbsaunde> but really I think writing that sort of big thing in js is just a bad idea
- # [16:45] <@ehsan> no, it's not
- # [16:45] <@ehsan> but we don't have anyone to work on it
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- # [16:46] <mikedeboer> me!me! pick me! :P
- # [16:46] <RyanVM> you heard it! he volunteered!
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- # [16:46] <tbsaunde> ehsan: I tend to think writing anything non trivial in js is a bad idea :)
- # [16:47] <@ehsan> mikedeboer: done!
- # [16:47] <@ehsan> mikedeboer: this is how you'll spend the following 3 years of your life, just so you know
- # [16:47] <gaston_> what is editor used for seriously ? besides tbird composing and the html compositor in seamonkey ?
- # [16:47] <mikedeboer> alright, expect it in your browsers tomorrow then
- # [16:47] <@ehsan> gaston_: <input>, <textarea>, contentEditable and designMode
- # [16:47] <gaston_> ah
- # [16:47] <gaston_> ouch
- # [16:48] <@ehsan> the first two are known as plaintext editor
- # [16:48] <Yoric> RyanVM: Yes your honour, I heard it with my own eyes.
- # [16:48] <@ehsan> the last two (which are very similar things) are known as HTML editor
- # [16:48] <gaston_> i dont want to be the one responsible for breaking <input> on all the internet
- # [16:48] <@ehsan> gaston_: I have, and it's no fun ;)
- # [16:48] <RyanVM> don't worry, we'll make sure QA verifies it first
- # [16:48] <gaston_> :)
- # [16:48] <jcranmer> all of us in comm-central would greatly appreciate a better editor
- # [16:48] <RyanVM> wait, that's your job now
- # [16:48] <gaston_> *slowly backs away*
- # [16:48] <@ehsan> I once broke <textarea> so people couldn't comment on bugzilla ;)
- # [16:48] <@ehsan> it was a glorious day
- # [16:49] <glob> ehsan, sounds like a nice feature!
- # [16:49] <jcranmer> RyanVM: I'll put it in my queue after rewriting libmime, compose, search, filters, and IMAP
- # [16:49] <RyanVM> ehsan: did you get a thank-you note?
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> glob: I might still have that patch around ;)
- # [16:49] <jcranmer> should start working on it somewhere around 2030
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I did (seriously)
- # [16:49] <RyanVM> hahaha
- # [16:49] <@ehsan> I won't name names though, you know who you are ;)
- # [16:49] <RyanVM> only if the chair fight xkcd was on the front
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- # [16:50] <mikedeboer> hmm, I do hope it *might* be possible to do designMode in JS first...
- # [16:50] <@ehsan> mikedeboer: a large portion of it is "possible"... but it's a huge project
- # [16:51] <@ehsan> mikedeboer: and to make things fun, there's no good spec yet
- # [16:51] <@ehsan> there is a WIP spec, which has also been abandoned
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- # [16:52] <mikedeboer> ehsan: myeah... well I just remember the glorious days I was writing a rich text editor that was supposed to be better than FCKEditor (wasn't hard back then) but most interestingly had to spit out valid XHTML
- # [16:53] <Ms2ger> Ehehehehe
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- # [16:53] <@ehsan> mikedeboer: oh so you've done this before...
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> and you're volunteering to do it again
- # [16:54] <NeilAway> jaws: thanks, I got sidetracked when I accidentally turned off the PC :s
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> something is not right...
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> ;)
- # [16:54] <froydnj> ted: have you seen something like http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2520022 before?
- # [16:54] <mikedeboer> ehsan: and I thought: wait, it can't be this broken! The number of hacks necessary...pfew! contentEditable is not usable atm for publishing solutions
- # [16:54] <@ehsan> yep :(
- # [16:55] <@ted> froydnj: did you update your python and try to rebuild an existing objdir?
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- # [16:55] <mikedeboer> hence multi-million dollar businesses are around to write custom XML-aware editors
- # [16:55] <@ted> might need to rm the virtualenv and rerun configure
- # [16:55] <mikedeboer> ehsan: I must be crazy! :)
- # [16:55] <froydnj> ted: ah, I thought configure would blow away the virtualenv, that fixed it
- # [16:55] <froydnj> ted: thanks
- # [16:55] <@ted> no, we leave it alone by default
- # [16:56] <@ehsan> it would be nice if we could put those out of business... :)
- # [16:56] <Yoric> mikedeboer: I'm sure that syndrome has a name :)
- # [16:56] <@ted> probably could be smarter and detect whether your python version changed
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- # [16:58] <mikedeboer> ehsan: :) all these families without food because our editor started working!
- # [16:58] <mikedeboer> (but srsly, it's not *that* broken)
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- # [17:00] <@ehsan> ted: how do I do debug logging in configure.in?
- # [17:00] <@ehsan> echo doesn't work...
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- # [17:01] <mikedeboer> Yoric: I bet it does ;)
- # [17:01] <@ehsan> ted: nm, adding echo to the wrong configure.in doesn't work (surprise!)
- # [17:02] <reuben> isn't there a big publishing startup using contentEditable for their editing solution?
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- # [17:08] <@ted> ehsan: hah
- # [17:08] <@ehsan> ted: I'm trying to revive my windows clang patch...
- # [17:09] <@ted> interesting
- # [17:09] <@ted> i don't think i ever got clang to build properly on windows
- # [17:09] <RyanVM> coool
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- # [17:10] <@ehsan> ted: really? it's *very* easy
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- # [17:10] <@ehsan> you just use cmake to generate LLVM.sln
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> and then use Visual Studio to build
- # [17:10] <@ehsan> like a chump
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- # [17:16] <@ted> ehsan: yeah, i did that, and it failed somewhere
- # [17:16] <@ehsan> ted: do you know what sets the $GCC variable in configure.in?
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- # [17:16] <@ted> ehsan: probably something in autoconf
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- # [17:16] <@ehsan> hmm
- # [17:17] <@ehsan> ted: so in toolchain.m4, we only set $CLANG_CC if $GCC is set
- # [17:17] <@ehsan> is there a good reason for that?
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- # [17:18] <@ted> probably just because clang otherwise pretends to be gcc
- # [17:18] <JosiahOne> What in the world? What did Bugzilla drink last night? It's been like an hour and my comment still hasn't been processed.
- # [17:19] <jaws> i haven't had any issues today
- # [17:19] <@ehsan> ted: ok but the problem I'm facing is that whatever sets $GCC doesn't recognize clang as being gcc, so it won't be set as CLANG_CC either
- # [17:19] <@ehsan> which is problematic
- # [17:19] <@ted> interesting
- # [17:20] <@ted> if test $ac_cv_prog_gcc = yes; then
- # [17:20] <@ted> GCC=yes
- # [17:20] <@ted> #ifdef __GNUC__
- # [17:20] <@ted> yes;
- # [17:20] <@ted> #endif
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- # [17:20] <@ted> is the configure test it uses
- # [17:20] <@ted> (looking in the generated configure)
- # [17:21] <@ehsan> where is this code?
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- # [17:21] <JosiahOne> jaws: Hmm interesting. Just canceled reload and tried again and it's working now. So forget I said anything. :)
- # [17:22] <@ted> probably somewhere in autoconf
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- # [17:22] * @ehsan doesn't know what that means
- # [17:23] <@ted> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git;a=blob;f=lib/autoconf/specific.m4;h=5c6f1c9e5fb36fe4d598638d6d0b8840c681b41e;hb=74b21b9b2ce75529e3d93df7367f4f4b0c6b6adf#l255
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- # [17:23] <@ted> autoconf is a giant pile of m4 macros
- # [17:23] <@ted> it takes your configure.in, applies them all and spits out configure which is a shell script
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- # [17:23] <@ted> so some of the macros are part of the autoconf source, and some of them are in our tree
- # [17:24] <@ted> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git;a=blob;f=lib/autoconf/specific.m4;h=5c6f1c9e5fb36fe4d598638d6d0b8840c681b41e;hb=74b21b9b2ce75529e3d93df7367f4f4b0c6b6adf#l90
- # [17:24] <@ted> you can see it uses that check to set $GCC
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- # [17:25] <@ehsan> ted: ah, figured it out!
- # [17:25] <@ehsan> ted: clang on windows apparently no longer defines __GNUC__
- # [17:25] <@ehsan> and instead defines _MSC_VER
- # [17:25] <@ehsan> so we should just fix toolchain.m4 to handle that
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- # [17:36] <@ted> ehsan: exciting, so it's trying to look like MSVC?
- # [17:36] <@ted> that is going to make things exciting
- # [17:36] <@ehsan> yeah
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- # [17:36] <RyanVM> edmorley: lulz - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24107079&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [17:36] <@ehsan> ted: at some point it will also have an MSVC compatible driver... but that has not happened yet
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- # [17:38] <@ted> i think our build system is going to be pretty confused since it deals with GCC or MSVC
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- # [17:38] <@ehsan> yep :)
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- # [17:39] <steve> can't you just #ifdef LINUX #undef _MSC_VER somewhere ? or something like that.
- # [17:40] <@ehsan> why would I do that?
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- # [17:40] <@ehsan> _MSC_VER being defined is a good thing
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- # [17:41] <steve> sorry - looks like I misunderstood. only half paying attention as working on other stuff. /shuts up
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- # [17:42] <@ehsan> ted: can you help me read the AC_TRY_RUN here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/autoconf/llvm-pr8927.m4#17
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- # [17:43] <@ehsan> ted: is this line executed when the test program returns 0 or non-0?
- # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> what's the new correct way to write PR_UINT32_MAX ?
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- # [17:44] <Ms2ger> UINT32_MAX
- # [17:45] <@ted> AC_TRY_RUN (program, [action-if-true], [action-if-false], [action-if-cross-compiling])
- # [17:45] <@ted> http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/autoconf-2.53/html_node/Test-Programs.html
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- # [17:46] <@ehsan> hmm
- # [17:46] <@ehsan> ted: but isn't that wrong?
- # [17:47] <@ehsan> ted: a conforming compiler _should_ return 0
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- # [18:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa6b60d827d4 - Joey Armstrong - bug 872086: move SIMPLE_PROGRAMS to moz.build (file batch #1) r=mshal
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- # [18:16] <Ms2ger> joe, ted, I hit the xpccheck thing too: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e3da18b554d6
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- # [18:24] <Ms2ger> ted, and I can't even find a test_bug608142.js in my repo
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- # [18:24] <@ted> ugh, wonder if this is that horrible hg repo screwup again
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- # [18:25] <Ms2ger> Hmmm
- # [18:25] <Ms2ger> That's a test bholley removed recently, I think...
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- # [18:26] <Ms2ger> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/593e06824257
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- # [18:31] <Ms2ger> ted, maybe it's the don't-clobber-source-repo thing?
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- # [18:31] <jcranmer> Ms2ger: that would make sense
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- # [18:36] <@ted> Ms2ger: yeah, i think glandium saw some weirdness related to this recently
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- # [18:36] <@ted> where hg wasn't removing certain files
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- # [19:10] <steve> guys - gtkembed update : grabbed ff17esr version supplied by strasky (thank you) & updated to current API. source here : http://advance-software.com/misc/browser_gtk.tar.gz
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- # [19:17] <ekr> ryanvm, philor: possible impending bustage: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2520383
- # [19:17] <steve> where I get confused is browser/gtk/src generates libgtkembedmoz.a.desc but no actual libgtkembedmoz.so which I'd expect to be generated & for the GTKMozEmbed symbols to be bound from there.
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- # [19:17] <ekr> Ms2ger: a not-so-sekrit build farm
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- # [19:19] <steve> please could this be reintegrated into the tree & a bug opened to fix the above. happy to open one in bugzilla if everyone's ok with that. if I'm doing something dumb, please say - I'm new to this module so could be user error.
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- # [19:19] <RyanVM|lunch> jimm: should I be seeing the metro mochitests by default yet?
- # [19:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07a993bc0141 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 882188 - Popup notifications in background windows should only ask for attention if they'll open automatically upon gaining focus. r=gavin
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- # [19:20] <ekr> Ms2ger: I just build on linux (regular and ASan) and run make check and some other unit tests, but it's enough to catch build bustage
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- # [19:21] <jimm> RyanVM: no not yet. we got opt cleaned up, now we have to figure out debug.
- # [19:21] <RyanVM> k, i'll hide them then
- # [19:21] <jimm> if you can display opt but not debug, that would be fine.
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- # [19:25] <steve> so, to fix this, I think I need to change the makefile browser/gtk/src makefile so it generates libgtkembedmoz.so & then fixup GTKEmbedGlueStartup so it looks for its symbols in libgtkembedmoz.so
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- # [19:25] <RyanVM> bholley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24110813&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [19:25] <steve> seems weird I need to do this as how did it ever work in the past ?
- # [19:25] <RyanVM> No rule to make target 'testVersion.cpp' needed by ['<command-line>', 'testVersion.cpp']
- # [19:25] <RyanVM> <testVersion.obj>: Found error
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- # [19:26] <bholley> RyanVM: hm, I removed that test
- # [19:26] <RyanVM> gonna guess needs-clobber then
- # [19:26] <bholley> RyanVM: I must have missed some manifest somewhere that is used on windows but not linux?
- # [19:26] <bholley> or that
- # [19:26] <bholley> let me see if there's any reference to it in the tree
- # [19:26] <bholley> RyanVM: no, seems gone gone
- # [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c085ef24d2c - Dan Gohman - Bug 875917 - Add braces to an if which has braces on its else. r=sstangl
- # [19:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d95868cd23f - Dan Gohman - Bug 875910 - Trim trailing whitespace. r=sstangl
- # [19:27] <steve> meanwhile, over in webkit land, they seem to have this nailed : http://webkitgtk.org/
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- # [19:27] <@bsmedberg> Anyone here have experience with the IDA debugger?
- # [19:27] <froydnj> hmph, more obscure windows build errors
- # [19:27] <ekr> bsmedberg: I don't personally but i have peeps who do. What do you need?
- # [19:28] <@bsmedberg> I just wanted to know how it compares with GDB/vstudio/windbg for various tasks
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- # [19:28] <@bsmedberg> it's expensive but sells itself pretty well ;-)
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- # [19:29] <@smaug> what is timeout time in mochitest?
- # [19:29] <@smaug> 5 mins?
- # [19:29] <steve> what about http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/idb-linux
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- # [19:30] <ekr> bsmedberg: my friend says he tried it to debug an embedded system and didn't have much luck. But he as working on QNX
- # [19:30] <ekr> IDA is definitely the premier tool for RE
- # [19:31] <ekr> That and HexRays
- # [19:31] <@bsmedberg> RE?
- # [19:31] <ekr> Reverse Engineering
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- # [19:32] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I've only used the free versions of IDA
- # [19:32] <ekr> That's what all my friends who do binary analysis use.
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- # [19:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f70770fc6dce - Steve Workman - Bug 497003 - Support delivery of OnDataAvailable off the main thread r=bz r=jduell
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- # [19:49] <JosiahOne> Looking at the beginning of this test: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2520468 Can anyone figure out why the test fails saying "uncaught exception - ReferenceError: frameLoaded is not defined at chrome://mochitests/content/chrome/toolkit/content/tests/chrome/test_showcaret.xul:1"
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- # [19:49] <benjamin> does anyone work on persona here?
- # [19:50] <padenot> #identity
- # [19:50] <Ms2ger> What, b2g?
- # [19:50] <benjamin> no desktop
- # [19:50] <padenot> I thought persona was the name of the new build system
- # [19:50] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, because the script that defines the function should be higher up?
- # [19:50] <benjamin> next week
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- # [19:51] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: But that's how the test was before. I didn't mess that part up. :) It wasn't there before.
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- # [19:51] <JosiahOne> (That exact fail)
- # [19:51] <Ms2ger> Then the test was just flaky before :)
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- # [19:52] <ekr> I think the new build system is called Blink
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- # [19:52] <Ms2ger> Marquee
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- # [19:53] <jimm> they've been broken all along. armen just turned them on an hour ago.
- # [19:53] <Ms2ger> akeybl, I think you misread jlebar
- # [19:53] <jimm> up until now we've been working on opt failures.
- # [19:54] <Ms2ger> akeybl, his point (as I understood it) is that we're all good at ignoring top-down things, so you'll need to convince devs that it's a good use of their time
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- # [19:55] <akeybl> my proposal is that we take our medicine as we did with r+
- # [19:55] <armenzg_brb> philor: the first runs were running nothing
- # [19:55] <armenzg_brb> let me go and hide them
- # [19:55] <akeybl> or explicitly say we don't have to
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- # [19:55] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: Though it doesn't make sense that the function should be above the call. This test has many functions below others and they work fine. I thought for sure javascript was smarter than that.
- # [19:56] <akeybl> but yes, perhaps I subtly mistook the meaning of top-down Ms2ger
- # [19:56] <akeybl> I see that
- # [19:56] <akeybl> but I guess I'm also concerned that we don't see the value
- # [19:56] <akeybl> as a community
- # [19:56] <akeybl> one man's opinion though
- # [19:56] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, the issue is that (in general) the load event can fire before the script is parsed
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- # [19:56] <bz> "In the scientific world there are no spammers and there is no direct commercial advantage to creating a lot of nonsense paper that cite your own paper"
- # [19:56] * bz is amused
- # [19:56] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: Hmm. Well alright. I'll try that.
- # [19:57] <Ms2ger> akeybl, well, exactly, make us see the value :)
- # [19:57] <Ms2ger> akeybl, because from my POV, for my own patches, I don't usually see it :)
- # [19:57] <akeybl> Ms2ger: then how can we categorize your bugs?
- # [19:57] <akeybl> or are there certain components that do need it?
- # [19:57] <akeybl> front-end changes
- # [19:57] <akeybl> build changes
- # [19:58] <akeybl> backouts
- # [19:58] <akeybl> aggregate code patches
- # [19:58] <Ms2ger> akeybl, mostly low-risk refactoring and stuff that is well-tested by automated tests
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- # [19:58] <rstrong> akeybl: might be better to categorize the bugs that need what you are asking for
- # [19:58] <mbrubeck> akeybl: When you gave some specific examples of bugs that were missed, and would have been caught by more rigorous verifications, that was the strongest argument and IMO is the type of evidence we should be focusing on.
- # [19:58] <akeybl> rstrong: I agree
- # [19:58] <akeybl> I don't mind if we declare things as needing verification, or unverifiable
- # [19:58] <mbrubeck> akeybl: In my own experience those cases are fairly rare... I think they are most common for landing on branches like beta and release that don't have nightly community testing
- # [19:58] <akeybl> as long as the delineation is made
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- # [19:59] <akeybl> mbrubeck: b2g as well though
- # [19:59] <Ms2ger> akeybl, it does feel to me like that, at least in part, we're introducing manual testing steps because we can't convince b2g devs to write automated tests
- # [19:59] <mbrubeck> ...which are probably highly visible to you but are an exception for most Mozilla devs.
- # [19:59] <mbrubeck> akeybl: Yeah, b2g-18 too
- # [19:59] <mbrubeck> and the other b2g branches
- # [19:59] <till> bz: that "scientific world" sounds awfully nice. Weird name for a parallel universe, though.
- # [19:59] <steve> why are you writing an o/s in js anyway ? it's never going to be as efficient as native code.
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- # [20:00] <@khuey> because we're crazy
- # [20:00] <steve> yup
- # [20:00] <steve> but not crazy enough
- # [20:00] <Ms2ger> steve, what khuey said; and it's actually not *too* far away from native code, and a lot more hackable
- # [20:00] <akeybl> I think we may need to A) use verifyme more frequently B) categorize which components/changes do need manual verification by dev/QA C) possibly require manual verification for B2G changes until automated tests are in
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- # [20:00] <steve> it's not as fast as it can be so it's not an optimal solution so it's nerdville.
- # [20:00] <akeybl> that's likely the compromise
- # [20:01] <steve> but if it makes you happy :)
- # [20:01] <akeybl> I put a stake in the ground, but don't think it's the solution
- # [20:01] <ialagenchev> does anyone happen to have a script that can go through a file and check for coding style inconsistencies?
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- # [20:01] <Ms2ger> ialagenchev, google jst simulacrum, perhaps?
- # [20:01] <mbrubeck> akeybl: I wouldn't see that as a "compromise" -- I think the process that will work for b2g is not necessarily appropriate for desktop Firefox or mozilla-central (and vice-versa).
- # [20:01] <RyanVM> steve: time will tell
- # [20:02] <Ms2ger> And I think BenWa is working on something for that too
- # [20:02] <mbrubeck> akeybl: And so adopting different solutions for different branches and products might actually be the *ideal* solution, rather than a compromised one.
- # [20:02] <ialagenchev> Ms2ger: thanks
- # [20:02] <akeybl> mbrubeck: which part isn't compromise? only certain components would need verification
- # [20:02] <JosiahOne> ialagenchev: What kind of inconsistencies btw?
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- # [20:02] <akeybl> that's what I'm suggesting mbrubeck
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- # [20:02] <ialagenchev> JosiahOne: the basic stuff covered in the dev guide
- # [20:02] <akeybl> different solutions per-product/component
- # [20:02] <akeybl> no one size fits all
- # [20:02] <BenWa> ialagenchev: See bug 875605. But it's very low priority so I have no ETA
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- # [20:03] <akeybl> but we do need to identify those product/component combinations
- # [20:03] <ialagenchev> BenWa: thanks
- # [20:03] <mbrubeck> akeybl: Yeah, sorry, just quibbling about semantics now. :) I mean that, yes, it's a compromise in the sense of being a step away from the original proposal, but not necessarily in the pejorative sense.
- # [20:03] <Ms2ger> akeybl, and you may have noticed that old timers often have a gut reaction against verification, because it hasn't been terribly useful in the past :)
- # [20:03] <JosiahOne> ialagenchev: Alright, thanks.
- # [20:03] <BenWa> ialagenchev: It works but it's not robust enough for me to deploy it and I don't have time to audit the results ATM
- # [20:04] <ialagenchev> BenWa: well, I can try to be your first tester :-)
- # [20:04] <mbrubeck> steve: Note that Dalvik is also a JIT rather than "native" code and yet Android apps seem to work... In fact, Dalvik didn't even have a JIT (just a bytecode VM) until Android 2.3
- # [20:04] <BenWa> ialagenchev: Feel free to run it locally. The bugzilla bots need some work I need to find time to do
- # [20:04] <BenWa> It's on github if you have time to tweak it
- # [20:04] <till> steve: so, should everyone write OSes in assembler, then? And what about Android (Dalvik), Apple (ObjC) and MS (C#). Those all Nerdville, too?
- # [20:04] <steve> sure - it's getting better but it's never going to be optimal.
- # [20:04] <ialagenchev> BenWa: thanks I will take a look at it
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- # [20:05] <mbrubeck> Android apps: Java VM with JIT + XML layout framework
- # [20:05] <mbrubeck> Firefox apps: JavaScirpt VM wit JIT + HTML layout framework
- # [20:05] <mbrubeck> s/wit /with /
- # [20:05] <steve> bits of the o/s should def be downcoded to assembler & hardware decoders, etc.
- # [20:05] <JosiahOne> steve: I feel the song, "never say never" coming on.
- # [20:05] <mbrubeck> steve: Yes, just as with Android, the layout and rendering and kernel and everything are written in C++
- # [20:05] <mbrubeck> steve: It's the apps that are written in JS, not the OS.
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- # [20:06] <steve> like I say, if that's what you want to work on, don't let me stop you. even apps, if it's trusted, why bother with js.
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- # [20:06] <steve> seems to me it's a 'because we can' rather than "because it's the best way of doing it"
- # [20:06] <JosiahOne> steve: Because it's cross platform. Easier for many developers, etc.
- # [20:06] <mbrubeck> and Firefox OS *does* use hardware decoders for audio/video, etc... so I'm not sure what you're arguing for there
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- # [20:07] <Ms2ger> steve, anything wrong with "because we can", though? :)
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- # [20:07] <steve> I'm arguing linux is a great open source o/s. firefox is a great browser. I'm arguing against bloatware.
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- # [20:08] <steve> nothing wrong with because you can except the focus on core browser is reduced due to effort elsewhere. but what you spend your time on is your call.
- # [20:08] <bz> steve: Why are we doing FirefoxOS?
- # [20:08] <bz> steve: What problem are we trying to solve?
- # [20:09] <steve> your answer ?
- # [20:09] <bz> steve: The answer is that the #1 problem in mobile right now is lock-in
- # [20:09] <bz> steve: you buy an iPhone, you buy some apps, then when you want to switch to Android for some reason you can't
- # [20:09] <mbrubeck> Firefox OS is in many ways less bloated than other OSes... instead of constantly having at least two VMs and graphics frameworks and everything (one for "native" apps and one for the web browser and webview apps), it has just one... it eliminates several redundant layers.
- # [20:09] <bz> steve: because best case you have to buy the apps again and worst case they're not there.
- # [20:10] <bz> steve: this leads to reduced competition (only need to compete for new users, not existing locked-in ones)
- # [20:10] <bz> steve: and a worse user experience in various ways.
- # [20:10] <mbrubeck> Many current and future operating systems (iOS, Windows RT, etc.) don't even let us build a third-party browser. If we want to be on these devices, we can't let ourselves be in a position where the platform owners can force us off.
- # [20:10] <bz> steve: One of the goals of FirefoxOS is to lead the way towards having truly device-portable apps
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- # [20:11] <steve> so you're doing java again
- # [20:11] <bz> steve: so you can buy the app once, and then run it on FirefoxOS, or iPhone, or Android, or whatever new thing comes along.
- # [20:11] <mbrubeck> No, we're doing the web again. :)
- # [20:11] <bz> steve: now conveniently, such a thing exists: web pages.
- # [20:11] <steve> no you're not
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- # [20:11] <bz> steve: gmail works no matter what platform you're on, as long as you have a web browser.
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- # [20:11] <bz> steve: so does facebook. And Amazon.
- # [20:11] <steve> such a thing exists: web pages.
- # [20:12] <bz> steve: With me so far?
- # [20:12] <steve> yeah - web pages. we're still in 2D. yawn
- # [20:12] <till> steve: as an aside, I think everyone here would appreciate a slightly less confrontational tone.
- # [20:12] <bz> steve: So one of the goals of FirefoxOS is to advance the web to the point where web pages can do everything that phone apps can do right now
- # [20:12] <steve> I know, sorry.
- # [20:12] <bz> steve: so that all phone apps can in fact be web pages
- # [20:12] <bz> steve: and then be portable across devices.
- # [20:13] <bz> steve: thus solving the problem we're _actually_ trying to solve.
- # [20:13] <steve> extending the capabilities of the 2D interface is a worthwhile objective.
- # [20:13] <bz> steve: Note that the problem being solved is not "create a new OS" or "gain marketshare" or "make lots of money"
- # [20:13] <bz> steve: those are all means, not ends
- # [20:13] <bz> steve: the end is "users can swap out phones like underwear if they want to"
- # [20:13] <mbrubeck> Steve: In any case, I think you should be happy that most of the things you requested are in fact things we are already doing ("bits of the o/s should def be downcoded to assembler... hardware decoders...")
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- # [20:13] <mbrubeck> so maybe if you continue to learn more, you'll find that the OS is actually not built in the way you seem to fear.
- # [20:14] <steve> I'm not unhappy. just questioning the logic of a js operating system. sounds like the focus is enhanced page capabilities. got no problem with that.
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- # [20:14] <mbrubeck> It's really just like the Android architecture, but with a JS VM instead of a Java VM, and a standard UI markup language instead of a non-standard one.
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- # [20:15] <bz> to be fair, and lack of an NDK
- # [20:15] <mbrubeck> yes
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- # [20:15] <mbrubeck> It's also just like the Windows Phone architecture, but with a JS VM instead of a JS + CIL VM, and a standard UI markup language instead of a proprietary one...
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- # [20:16] <mbrubeck> ...and the NDK again.
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- # [20:17] <bz> mbrubeck: odd how they all look kinda alike... ;)
- # [20:17] <mbrubeck> of course, Windows Phone and Android both launched without an NDK... but they eventually added one, while I assume we won't do that for strategic/philosophic/architectural reasons.
- # [20:17] <bz> mbrubeck: "ctypes"
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- # [20:17] <mbrubeck> haha
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- # [20:17] <bz> mbrubeck: I hope we never expose that to apps...
- # [20:17] <mbrubeck> We're never exposing that to web apps, are we?
- # [20:17] <mbrubeck> ha
- # [20:18] <benjamin> mozilla's response to pnacl...
- # [20:18] <ekr> benjamin... do tell?
- # [20:19] * till is looking forward to seeing how Android will cope with a mixed ARM/x86 landscape
- # [20:19] <benjamin> joking
- # [20:19] <mbrubeck> The ugliest code I ever wrote at Mozilla used ctypes and JNI to call from JS to C++ to Java
- # [20:19] <mbrubeck> Thankfully it was never checked in. :)
- # [20:19] <bz> mbrubeck: funtimes
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- # [20:19] <bz> The best ctypes bug I saw was....
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- # [20:19] <till> mbrubeck: you must not do much xpcom stuff, then :)
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- # [20:20] <bz> till: have you _tried_ ctypes?
- # [20:20] <mwu> jni is pretty horrible
- # [20:20] <bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598679
- # [20:20] <till> mbrubeck: although, that *does* sound gruesome
- # [20:20] <till> bz: thankfully, no
- # [20:20] <bz> "Using JS-CTypes to call CallWindowProc crashes XULRunner"
- # [20:20] <bz> Best bug ever.
- # [20:20] <till> bz: I did look into it to see how we could self-host it, though
- # [20:20] <bz> till: funtimes
- # [20:21] <Gijs> oh, that reminds me
- # [20:21] <Gijs> bholley++ :)
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- # [20:22] <till> bz: ok, so I'll not really read that bug if it's ok with you ;)
- # [20:22] <bz> till: The summary says it all
- # [20:22] <till> heh
- # [20:22] * bz notes it's still open, surprise!
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- # [20:24] <steve> > to be fair, and lack of an NDK : which is why it's a fail. low power devices need native apps. sorry.
- # [20:24] <bholley> Gijs: for what?
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- # [20:25] <steve> but the enhanced page capabilities side - sure - go for it. can never have too much functionality.
- # [20:25] <Gijs> bholley: for figuring out that JS crasher I filed.
- # [20:25] <bholley> Gijs: which?
- # [20:25] <Gijs> haha
- # [20:25] <bholley> Gijs: the off-main-thread one?
- # [20:25] * Gijs doesn't file that many.
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- # [20:26] <Gijs> bholley: bug 882106
- # [20:26] <bholley> Gijs: oh, that :-)
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- # [20:26] <Gijs> I mean, I just ended up working around it, but still. :)
- # [20:26] <@ehsan> when did we break the reftest analyzer? :(
- # [20:26] <bholley> Gijs: yeah, that's been bugging me for months
- # [20:27] <till> steve: so interestingly, we're able to target markets Android can't precisely because we're able to run on lower-specced devices.
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- # [20:28] <Gijs> bholley: no worries, I have an updated code blob that doesn't crash, and atm it's not even certain that code will ever get checked in, so *shrug* :)
- # [20:28] <Gijs> (although yes, obviously the underlying issue should probably be fixed, at some point)
- # [20:28] <steve> yes but those low power low spec devices aren't very interesting.
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- # [20:29] <steve> but if you have a market there & enough developer interest - it takes all sorts. not trying to wee on anyone's bonfire.
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- # [20:29] <steve> if you'll pardon the phrase
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- # [20:30] <till> steve: ok.
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- # [20:30] <froydnj> steve: maybe they're not interesting to *you*, but they are interesting to several hundred million people
- # [20:30] <steve> no argument there - we're not all interested in the same stuff.
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- # [20:32] <sfink> steve: if mozilla only spent energy on desktop browsers, we'd be irrelevant and dead before long
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- # [20:32] <sfink> the action is in mobile
- # [20:32] <@dolske> high end devices are not at all interesting to the billions of people who can't afford the latest shiny toy.
- # [20:32] <@dolske> hence nokia feature phones still being hugely popular.
- # [20:32] <steve> doubt it. the action is real-time raytracing. but that's a couple of years out.
- # [20:32] <sfink> and mobile has a major lock-in problem that is going to get worse if not countered
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- # [20:32] <steve> & a lot more for mobile, if ever
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- # [20:33] <sfink> "action" meaning people and developers and functionality, not just the shiniest of the shiny
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- # [20:37] <steve> so anyhow. this TestGtkEmbed thingy. can it go back in the tree ? right now I want to be an embedded application developer but your embedding interface on linux has gone awol.
- # [20:37] <till> oh
- # [20:37] <bz> That's because it was broken
- # [20:37] <till> RIP Chrome Frame
- # [20:38] <bz> and there was no one willing to step up and maintain it
- # [20:38] <Ms2ger> till, hmm?
- # [20:38] <bz> It can come back when there is a maintainer...
- # [20:38] <till> http://blog.chromium.org/2013/06/retiring-chrome-frame.html
- # [20:38] <steve> compilable version here : http://advance-software.com/misc/browser_gtk.tar.gz
- # [20:39] <Ms2ger> till, good riddance
- # [20:39] <steve> you see: this is why I'm thinking it's time to move over to webkit & that's not being confrontational, it's just you guys aren't interested in third party applications.
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- # [20:44] <sfink> steve: sadly, that is correct. I'd love it if a 3rd party app community collected together and was able to maintain that functionality.
- # [20:44] <@khuey> why would we switch to webkit?
- # [20:44] <@khuey> blink is the new hotness
- # [20:45] <djvj> RyanVM: ping
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- # [20:45] <myk> is it possible for a binary component in an extension to subclass nsASocketHandler and nsBaseChannel? (someone trying it reported to me that they don't appear in libxul's link table)
- # [20:45] <Ms2ger> khuey, embedders, not we
- # [20:45] <bz> blink does not care about embedding either, I bet
- # [20:45] <RyanVM> djvj: pong
- # [20:45] <sfink> steve: given your use of the phrase "you guys", I am guessing you are not thinking of being part of that community
- # [20:46] <@dolske> khuey: no, I think the's saying he'll switch to webkit for his next generation web browser built from the ground up to manipulate traditional and 3D website content.
- # [20:46] <@khuey> myk: you can't subclass nsBaseChannel from outside libxul
- # [20:46] <@khuey> I don't know about the other one
- # [20:46] <myk> khuey: ok, thanks
- # [20:46] <steve> dolske: that's the one. currently uses gecko to render pages.
- # [20:46] <djvj> RyanVM: so I tracked the issue down with the failed uplift of byg 877287. It's a separate bug, and it was fixed on tip by another bug that's not specifically tied to the issue
- # [20:46] <djvj> RyanVM: see bug 882834
- # [20:47] <steve> sorry for lack of credits there - it's wip not intentional avoidance.
- # [20:47] <RyanVM> djvj: heh, fail
- # [20:47] <djvj> RyanVM: So I want to take just the relevant changes for this fix, and apply it just to aurora
- # [20:47] <myk> khuey: do you know if JS-ctypes is still "the recommended way for extensions to call into OS or third-party native code"? i see that advice on <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Interface_Compatibility>, but that page hasn't been updated in a while
- # [20:47] <djvj> RyanVM: I have a patch for that, but I don't know the process for directly submitting things for r? and commit to aurora. Do I get the r? and then immediately ask for uplift permission?
- # [20:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/05bf9122d234 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 882514: Don't try to enable Ion on functions with no script; r=h4writer
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- # [20:48] <sfink> it's also "the recommended way to early hair loss and bloodshot eyes", afaik
- # [20:48] <RyanVM> djvj: yes
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- # [20:48] <RyanVM> djvj: and set checkin-needed when everything's ready to go because I normally only look for fixed bugs to uplift
- # [20:48] <@khuey> myk: I believe it is
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- # [20:49] <myk> khuey: cool, thanks; i'll pass on that advice to this extension developer
- # [20:50] <steve> "Steve: given your use of the phrase "you guys", I am guessing you are not thinking of being part of that community" - I'm working on a 3D browser. using gecko as a page renderer. the two "communities" coexist, but different projects
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- # [20:51] <steve> last time we discussed this, my understand was that this was ok. if this has changed, please let me know.
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- # [20:54] <sfink> steve: it's certainly ok, it's just that -- as you've noticed -- our support for embedders is lackluster. I suspect there's a fair amount of chicken/egg problem with resources/demand too, so just having people like you who want to use it should boost things, assuming you can tolerate the current situation
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- # [21:24] <RyanVM> KWierso|Home: ping
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- # [21:25] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: yo
- # [21:25] <RyanVM> KWierso|Home: does this look familiar to you? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24107759&tree=Fx-Team
- # [21:25] <RyanVM> and on inbound - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24114526&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [21:26] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: nope
- # [21:26] <RyanVM> mind filing? :)
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- # [21:26] <KWierso|Home> nope :)
- # [21:27] <BenWa> gps: The build progress footer is really awesome btw :)
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- # [21:30] <gps> BenWa: thanks! it's just the tip of the iceburg. next step is hooking up system resource monitoring to each tier/sub-tier/directory and recording useful stats/data
- # [21:31] <BenWa> looking forward to it
- # [21:31] <gaston_> once build footer works somewhere else than macos term ? :p
- # [21:31] <Ms2ger> gaston_, hey, it works on some linux terminals too ;)
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- # [22:19] <jdm> can a crashtest cause a pref to be set before running?
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- # [22:19] <RyanVM> jdm: I would assume so
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- # [22:19] <RyanVM> uses the same harness as reftests
- # [22:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/762073f484ee - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 874855. Add some more security to attaching compositors to compositables. r=nical
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- # [22:21] <@ehsan> jdm: no
- # [22:21] <@ehsan> jdm: why do you need that?
- # [22:21] <RyanVM> why's that?
- # [22:21] <jdm> ehsan: what about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=714809&action=diff ?
- # [22:22] <RyanVM> jdm: test-pref(<pref>,<value>) is what's used for reftests
- # [22:22] <@ehsan> ah that's new
- # [22:22] <@ehsan> but it's usually a bad idea
- # [22:22] <jdm> ehsan: the context here is for adding crashtests for stuff that's preffed off right now
- # [22:22] <jdm> similar to flexbox
- # [22:22] <@ehsan> jdm: for that it should be fine
- # [22:23] <@ehsan> but we should be careful not make crashtetss depend on prefs which change the behavior etc
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- # [22:34] <mounir> have other people been experiencing bugzilla slowliness today?
- # [22:34] <@dolske> yes, #fx-team was just complaining :)
- # [22:34] <BenWa> feels a bit slower then usual
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- # [22:35] <mounir> this morning it was even worse :(
- # [22:35] <mounir> I mean, tonight for you Americans
- # [22:35] <@dolske> mounir: oh, and since you're here... know anything about bug 881996? mrbkap suggested you or sicking might know something.
- # [22:35] <RyanVM> yeah, it's been slow all day
- # [22:35] <mccr8> yes bugzilla def. feels a lot slower
- # [22:35] <mccr8> looks like there was some kind of upgrade
- # [22:35] <BenWa> I think since you asked everyone tried reloading and now it's really slow :P
- # [22:36] <davidb> yes
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- # [22:36] <@khuey> mounir: you mean last night?
- # [22:36] <@khuey> tonight hasn't happened yet :-P
- # [22:36] <mounir> khuey: blah blah blah
- # [22:37] <@khuey> heh
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- # [22:37] <mounir> dolske: seems like you are getting a unkwon-app-id principal
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- # [22:37] <mounir> those shouldn't be used to do checks
- # [22:37] <mounir> because if they do not have an app id that means we don't know much about them
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- # [22:37] <mounir> and have no idea where they are coming from basically
- # [22:37] <mounir> so whether they are unproperly flag as unknown or you are doing an inappropriate permission check
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- # [22:38] <mounir> dolske: which is why sicking asked where the principal is coming from
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- # [22:39] <@dolske> mounir: oh, I didn't see his update. hmm. are those created often? I can only reproduce this on Try so far, so might need to debug via logging :/
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- # [22:40] <@dolske> (alternatively, is there some easy way to determine where it was created?)
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- # [22:40] <mounir> dolske: no, they shouldn't
- # [22:40] <mounir> dolske: I guess you can look at where the check happens and find out where the principal on that chek comes from
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- # [22:41] <@dolske> ok
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- # [22:47] <joe> do I need to change CLOBBER when I change configure.in?
- # [22:47] <RyanVM> don't *think* so
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- # [22:51] <joe> we shall see
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- # [22:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19671f660736 - Joe Drew - Bug 882173 - Define MOZ_USE_PTHREADS if we're using pthreads. r=gps
- # [22:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/addf66960e85 - Joe Drew - Bug 882173 - Build pixman with TLS support. r=jrmuizel
- # [22:51] <gaston_> oh, i'm afraid that will break me
- # [22:52] <gaston_> if that's assuming pthreads -> thread local storage is available..
- # [22:52] <gps> joe: no. if you change configure.in, configure we re-run automatically
- # [22:52] <joe> gaston_: oh, it is
- # [22:52] <joe> gaston_: is that not the case?
- # [22:52] <gaston_> nope
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- # [22:52] <joe> hm
- # [22:52] <gaston_> on openbsd we dont have TLS
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- # [22:52] <gaston_> (someday, maybe, etc etc..)
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- # [22:52] <gps> but I thought BSDs were secure :)
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- # [22:53] <joe> gaston_: one very easy fix would be to wrap the pthread hunk in Makefile.in to define TLS=something that works
- # [22:53] <tbsaunde> gps: its easy to be secure when you can't do much ;)
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- # [22:53] <joe> maybe __thread?
- # [22:54] <joe> i don't know if that works with .so files though
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- # [22:54] <joe> gaston_: i would happily r+ a patch that did that for openbsd
- # [22:54] <gaston_> oh god why are people giving me more work when i dont need more :)
- # [22:54] <joe> haha
- # [22:54] <joe> sorry!!
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- # [22:55] <gaston_> what do you mean by 'define TLS=something that works' ?
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- # [22:55] <gaston_> no TLS means no TLS, i dont think there's an alternative..
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- # [22:56] <joe> oh you have *no* tls whatsoever?
- # [22:56] <joe> that's bad
- # [22:56] <gaston_> shit happens, and then build breaks :)
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- # [22:56] <tbsaunde> gaston_: what does clang do with __thread and whatever the c++11 thing are then?
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- # [22:57] <joe> thread_local
- # [22:57] <gaston_> what about bringing back that DEFINES += -DPIXMAN_NO_TLS for os=openbsd ?
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- # [22:57] <joe> it will subtly break the code i'm writing
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- # [22:57] <joe> where subtly = badly
- # [22:57] <gaston_> tbsaunde: i have no idea, i just know we dont have support for it
- # [22:57] <joe> when it goes wrong
- # [22:57] <joe> if you're ok with random crashes then i suppose i could do that
- # [22:58] <gaston_> what is the other alternative ? :)
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- # [22:58] <joe> implement tls it hink
- # [22:58] <gaston_> erm
- # [22:58] <gaston_> what is the other _possible_ alternative ? :)
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- # [22:59] <joe> not supporting off-main-thread compositing at all
- # [22:59] <joe> which is probalby a world we don't want to live in much
- # [22:59] <gaston_> the world i had 15mn ago was fine, thanks :)
- # [22:59] <joe> haha
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- # [23:00] <tbsaunde> gaston_: for _you_ maybe, but I doubt its a config *we* ant to have to worry about :(
- # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00a8c9c3fe5d - Luke Wagner - Bug 881882 - rm JS_ASMJS (r=sstangl)
- # [23:00] <joe> RyanVM: do you know why you asked for GFX help on orange bug 861700?
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- # [23:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8f6c2b1a92e - Luke Wagner - Bug 881882 - OdinMonkey: report compile time and slow functions in asm.js success message (r=sstangl)
- # [23:00] <RyanVM> joe: I didn't
- # [23:00] <joe> oh it was lmandel
- # [23:00] <RyanVM> something got lost in translation
- # [23:00] <joe> i'll see if he's around
- # [23:00] <RyanVM> gavin's on it
- # [23:00] <RyanVM> i wouldn't worry abou tit
- # [23:00] <joe> ok good
- # [23:00] <RyanVM> the important thing is that it's got an owner
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- # [23:01] <RyanVM> if you need to reply to milan, just tell him that gavin already picked it up
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- # [23:01] <joe> yep done
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- # [23:02] <joe> thanks
- # [23:02] <lmandel> joe, RyanVM: Sorry if I got my wires crossed. Thought gfx help was requested.
- # [23:02] <gaston_> joe: so, short-term fix, what should i propose that is workable ?
- # [23:02] <RyanVM> not a problem, thanks for following up :)
- # [23:02] <joe> gaston_: -DPIXMAN_NO_TLS will work short-term
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- # [23:03] <gaston_> until more code lands on top that assumes TLS is usable i suppose ?
- # [23:03] <joe> yeah
- # [23:03] <joe> but i'll try to make sure that is preffable
- # [23:04] <joe> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2520966
- # [23:04] <joe> gaston_: ^
- # [23:04] <joe> if you make ifndef OPENBSD there work
- # [23:04] <joe> that should fix it
- # [23:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1c91dd828e8 - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 882012: Provide Use to right hand side in CheckStoreArray; r=luke
- # [23:04] <joe> (i have no clue what the openbsd makefile magic would be)
- # [23:04] <gaston_> will try that & report on the bug
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- # [23:07] <gaston_> for now i'm still doing release builds --with-system-cairo but i guess that'd become more and more unsupported :)
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- # [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc08e8496fc6 - Chris Pearce - Bug 881954 - Only initialize DXVA when we're decoding video. r=padenot
- # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d4a1926278d - Chris Pearce - Bug 881954 - Set the thread limit to the idle limit for WMFByteStream's thread pool. This stops the pool from constantly creating and destroying threads when under load,
- # [23:10] <firebot> freeing up virtual address space and reducing our thread count. r=padenot
- # [23:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a40c0f052f75 - Chris Pearce - Bug 881954 - Generalize test_too_many_elements to run on more than just Ogg audio. r=padenot
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- # [23:25] <jwir3> kats: ping
- # [23:25] <jwir3> oops wrong channge
- # [23:25] <jwir3> channel
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- # [23:28] <sewardj> jchen: ping
- # [23:28] <jchen> sewardj: pong
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- # [23:29] <sewardj> jchen: interesting, re your 882903
- # [23:29] <sewardj> jchen: did you see 882608 ?
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- # [23:30] <sewardj> jchen: do you know how to fix 882903?
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- # [23:31] <jchen> sewardj: hm i hadnt seen that before.
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- # [23:32] <jchen> sewardj: i have a couple ideas for 882903, but i want glandium to weigh in on it.
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- # [23:33] <jchen> reading the original bug it seems like the apk to breakpad code was a bit of a hack
- # [23:33] <jchen> so i don't know if we have a more complete fix
- # [23:33] <jchen> "apk to breakpad" meaning the faulty.lib API used in the breakpad unwinder code
- # [23:33] <jcranmer|away> jdm: I'll take a whack at reviewing that mime patch this evening
- # [23:33] <jcranmer|away> I was going to write it myself anyways
- # [23:34] <sewardj> jchen: we really need glandium for this, but he just changed sides of the planet
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- # [23:34] <dzbarsky> !seen sickin
- # [23:34] <jcranmer|away> jdm: bienvenu isn't actively working on Mozilla anymore, so he's no longer a quick reviewer
- # [23:34] <firebot> sickin was last seen 48 weeks, 3 days, 50 minutes and 39 seconds ago, changing nick to sicking.
- # [23:34] <dzbarsky> !seen sicking
- # [23:34] <firebot> sicking was last seen 21 hours, 36 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying 'dolske: pong' in #developers.
- # [23:34] <jdm> jcranmer|away: I've noticed :) Thanks!
- # [23:35] * jcranmer|away is glad he saved off his S/MIME-encrypted mails
- # [23:35] <jchen> sewardj: yeah :) are you blocked on 882329 / 882608? i can probably spend some cycles on them (i've been doing some jimdb work anyways)
- # [23:35] <jcranmer|away> yay for bugzilla sending me encrypted mail
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- # [23:36] <sewardj> jchen: well, actually your 882903 is the most critical. For sure I spent way too much time the last days looking at flakyness in the SPS + faulty.lib combination
- # [23:36] <sewardj> jchen: so if you can get some fix for 882903 that would be great
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- # [23:37] <sewardj> jchen: it also was not clear whether the flakyness is due to an earlier stack-registration-for-SPS change I made, but I think it is not
- # [23:37] <@smaug> odd. no links to blame in dxr. Apparently still no time to start even to try to use it.
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- # [23:38] <mjrosenb> sewardj: did you end up getting the arm chromebook?
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- # [23:39] <sewardj> mjrosenb: according to Fedex tracking it's awaiting customs release in Cologne, so it's within 300 miles now :)
- # [23:39] <jchen> sewardj: okay. fix should be pretty simple. i'll comment on the bug
- # [23:39] <sewardj> jchen: that would be great
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- # [23:39] <sewardj> jchen: I'll buy you a $beverage at the
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- # [23:39] <sewardj> next place we meet
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- # [23:40] <jchen> haha!
- # [23:40] <mjrosenb> sewardj: sweet.
- # [23:40] <sewardj> jchen: (I read your $release_notes for JimDB :)
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- # [23:41] <jdm> smaug: huh, there definitely used to be blame links
- # [23:42] <sewardj> jchen: if you feel like fixing 882608 too that would be great, since I can't use valgrind on android with MOZ_LINKER_ONDEMAND=1 for reasons to do with the baseline simulation
- # [23:42] <@smaug> jdm: I thought so too
- # [23:42] <jdm> I'll file a bug
- # [23:42] <@smaug> probably the most important feature of a code search is removed...
- # [23:43] <sewardj> mjrosenb: it should be here tomorrow.
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- # [23:46] <glandium> am i needed?
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- # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5c0c5b2a6d4 - Joey Armstrong - bug 872086-2: move SIMPLE_PROGRAMS to moz.build (file batch #2) r=mshal
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- # [23:50] <glandium> sewardj, jchen: pong?
- # [23:51] <jchen> glandium: you're always needed :) what do you think about bug 882903?
- # [23:52] <sicking> dzbarsky: pong
- # [23:52] <glandium> jchen: that the information available is pretty slim ;)
- # [23:52] <glandium> like no backtrace
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- # [23:53] <dzbarsky> sicking: hey, so I'm trying to figure out whether we want to do bug 879475 or bug 761935. Bent said you have some security concerns. You going to be available to chat in SF tomorrow?
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- # [23:53] <cpearce> what's the difference between nsIDocument::Hidden() and nsIDocument::IsVisible()? they seem to rely on different state.
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- # [23:56] <sicking> dzbarsky: i'll probably be working from home tomorrow, but I'm available to chat certainly
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- # [23:56] <dzbarsky> sicking: ok cool. I'll try to get a hold of jlebar and figure out a good time
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- # [23:57] <jchen> glandium: well the bug description should be accurate. the breakpad unwinder now uses an on-demand mappable for getting symbols, but the sigsegv handler is does not call ensure on this separate mappable. i think the easiest fix is to just call ensure on all pages right after mmap
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- # [23:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/64e15d90cb92 - Trevor Saunders - bug 877937 - build the js engine in c++11 mode when we do that for the rest of the tree r=ted
- # [23:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/744418835d76 - Trevor Saunders - bug 877937 - make js embedders build as c++11 when we do r=ted f=waldo
- # [23:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56e47c35233e - Trevor Saunders - bug 877937 - placate clang when building the jseng as c++11 r=waldo
- # Session Close: Fri Jun 14 00:00:00 2013
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