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1. # Session Start: Fri Jun 14 00:00:00 2013
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <glandium> jchen: ah it wasn't clear where it was crashing, from the bug description. Now,i see
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6. # [00:02] <glandium> jchen: yeah, just call ensure in LibHandle::MappableMMap like in CustomElf::LoadSegment
7. # [00:02] <sewardj> glandium: jchen: could the same problem that caused 882903 also have caused 882608 ?
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14. # [00:03] <sewardj> glandium: zz_jchen: 882903 is a priority, but fixing 882608 is also important
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18. # [00:03] <glandium> sewardj: could be the same bug
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22. # [00:04] <sewardj> mjrosenb: (re etherpad) no, /me not sure what you are referring to
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39. # [00:08] <glandium> sewardj: do you want to try to write a fix for 882903?
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41. # [00:10] <sewardj> glandium: yes .. per your comments to jchen a few mins ago, yes?
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43. # [00:11] <glandium> sewardj: yup
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61. # [00:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46a12d8fbf03 - Terrence Cole - No Bug - Fix an out-of-date comment in Ion about JM compilation; r=bhackett
62. # [00:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8322d226a021 - Terrence Cole - No Bug - Assert that our Rooting ABI is correct; r=sfink
63. # [00:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a41df37be7e - Andrew McCreight - Bug 829817 - Cycle collect nsCSSPageRule. r=dbaron
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113. # [00:18] <sewardj> glandium: (some questions ..) in CustomElf::LoadSegment, mappable->ensure() is called in a loop, once for each page in a range, and is also dependent on ! MOZ_LINKER_ONDEMAND=0
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118. # [00:18] <sewardj> glandium: for LibHandle::MappableMMap, I still need the loop, but not the check for MOZ_LINKER_ONDEMAND. Correct?
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137. # [00:20] <mjrosenb> sewardj: ah. I was talking about this: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/chromebook it is a bit out of date (ubuntu-13.04 has been officially released), but it shuold still work.
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155. # [00:21] <glandium> sewardj: yup ; and you just need to loop from offset to offset + length
156. # [00:21] <gfritzsche> bent: do you have a rough estimate on when you can take a look at 853864? :)
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158. # [00:22] <derf> Alas, poor Yoric...
159. # [00:22] <sewardj> I wonder how often that happens.
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166. # [00:23] <@khuey> derf: sadly I can only kick them from this channel
167. # [00:23] <@khuey> and not the 20 other channels they're annoying me in
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171. # [00:23] <@khuey> bah wtf
172. # [00:23] <@khuey> normally that works
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178. # [00:24] <philor> guess what inbound's status is, go ahead, I dare you
179. # [00:24] * mjrosenb queues talking heads on his playlist :-p
180. # [00:25] <philor> BenWa: your opt-only try run? that's not going to tell you that you've got an assertion that will blow up the run
181. # [00:25] <Waldo> huh, the sent-to list is hidden by default now? interesting
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184. # [00:27] <BenWa> philor: Yea, I noticed it after landing to inbound :(
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186. # [00:28] <BenWa> I though scopedxpcom would initialized that stuff correctly
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188. # [00:29] <philor> hg backout -r b5c0c5b2a6d4 "Back out b5c0c5b2a6d4 (bug 872086) for Windows build failure on a CLOSED TREE"
189. # [00:29] <sewardj> glandium: how does this look? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2521251
190. # [00:29] <sewardj> glandium: it doesn't use |offset| in the loop, but iiuc that's correct
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192. # [00:30] <philor> and of course hg backout -r eb8b971070eb "Back out eb8b971070eb (bug 844852) for debug make check assertions on a CLOSED TREE"
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194. # [00:31] <tbsaunde> philor: got it
195. # [00:31] <BenWa> philor: Want me to backout both?
196. # [00:31] <sewardj> glandium: zz_jchen: \o/ no segfault
197. # [00:31] <glandium> sewardj: r+
198. # [00:31] <tbsaunde> BenWa: go for it
199. # [00:32] <BenWa> philor: 'abort: please specify just one revision'?
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201. # [00:32] <sewardj> glandium: cool; I'll land it then (post-tryserver of course) ?
202. # [00:32] <bent> gfritzsche, hm, tomorrow hopefully!
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204. # [00:32] <bent> gfritzsche, sorry about that :(
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206. # [00:32] <tbsaunde> BenWa: you need to backout one at a time
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208. # [00:33] <BenWa> tbsaunde: I did, specific one changeset
209. # [00:33] <tbsaunde> nice that hg atleast complains instead of just doing something stupid now I guess though :p
210. # [00:34] <tbsaunde> BenWa: you need to turn the results of that backout into a commit before backing out another I guess? I'm not clear on what you did
211. # [00:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2777f9ae3173 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset b5c0c5b2a6d4 (bug 872086) for Windows bustage.
212. # [00:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c078f228d84 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset c1c441c9edce (bug 845668) for frequent Windows mochitest-2 crashes.
213. # [00:34] <BenWa> ohh ok, found the problem
214. # [00:34] <BenWa> Apparently you can't include the commit message
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217. # [00:35] <tbsaunde> BenWa: oh, yeah
218. # [00:36] <philor> yeah, sorry, that was pseudo-backout, since I don't actually use hg backout directly anyway
219. # [00:36] <sewardj> jchen: you wanna try that fix too?
220. # [00:36] <BenWa> I normally avoid the build command and apply in the inverse. Though I'd try hg backout for once
221. # [00:36] <BenWa> build/backout*
222. # [00:36] <philor> and just to confuse things, RyanVM backed out the one but not the other
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224. # [00:37] <BenWa> philor: How do you do your backout to avoid the merge commit?
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226. # [00:38] <rnewman> fuck you, hg phases.
227. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/31aa900a060b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset eb8b971070eb (bug 844852) for checktest failures.
228. # [00:38] <@khuey> rnewman: srsly
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230. # [00:38] <tbsaunde> rnewman: with a splintery clue by 4
231. # [00:39] <dzbarsky> philor: how did you determine that bug 845668 caused the mochitest crashes?
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234. # [00:40] <gfritzsche> bent: ok, great!
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236. # [00:41] <philor> dzbarsky: easy, I saw one of them happen, then RyanVM told me he was retriggering something to see when they started, then while I was waiting for someone to back out two other things, he backed that out
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238. # [00:41] <dzbarsky> philor: ah, I see the retriggers now. weird, that should be dead code...
239. # [00:42] <philor> I hardly even lifted a finger!
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246. # [00:44] <sewardj> glandium: at least at first test, that also fixes the MOZ_LINKER_ONDEMAND=0 fault.
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249. # [00:45] <sewardj> glandium: can you pls r+ on the bug?
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262. # [00:51] <philor> okay, let's pretend the rest of that stuff never happened
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273. # [00:56] <sewardj> glandium: thx
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282. # [01:01] <Jesse_> is it just me or is bugzilla slow today
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288. # [01:03] <KWierso|Home> Jesse_: not just you
289. # [01:03] <KWierso|Home> though it's been better for me this afternoon than this morning
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336. # [01:24] <clever> i'm having some trouble with cross-origin stuff and window.onerror, anybody know details on how it works internally?
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343. # [01:26] <NeilAway> bah, how is one supposed to inspect popup notifications
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363. # [01:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/630b073105d0 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 866567. Mask layers for client container layers. r=mattwoodrow
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373. # [01:40] <njn> khuey: do you understand why web workers need an atoms compartment?
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377. # [01:41] <njn> khuey: I guess it's just because a JSRuntime must have an atoms compartment
378. # [01:41] <avih> is there some api accessible from javascript (chrome privileges) to force invalidation of a window?
379. # [01:42] <avih> (paint invalidation)
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394. # [01:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf127124050d - Mats Palmgren - No bug - Remove <link rel="help" href=...> from reference files since W3C test suite importer doesn't like it. r=me, DONTBUILD
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397. # [01:53] <philor> good deal, I didn't like it either, though I've forgotten why
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406. # [01:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57bcefbd1ae1 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 857127 - Clean up health report logging after test finishes; r=rnewman
407. # [01:58] <@gavin> bz: do you have any ideas re: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=861700#c325 ?
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409. # [01:59] <Waldo> njn: atoms are per-runtime and all, and they're GC'd, so of course they have to be one set per thread, ish
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412. # [02:02] <RyanVM> whee, did I miss anything good?
413. # [02:03] <philor> mccr8: you crashing in ReleaseSliceNow doesn't seem like a good thing
414. # [02:03] <philor> RyanVM: don't think so
415. # [02:03] <RyanVM> sorry about the half-backout
416. # [02:04] <RyanVM> was literally doing it while making dinner
417. # [02:04] <philor> remains to be seen whether you missed backing out mccr8 for crashing :)
418. # [02:04] <RyanVM> saw the Windows bustages and didn't see the other orange
419. # [02:04] <mccr8> hmm. seems unlikely but it could be possible...
420. # [02:04] <mccr8> I did a linux64 debug run... ;)
421. # [02:04] <philor> well, that's that then!
422. # [02:05] <RyanVM> it's settled
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424. # [02:05] <philor> not that we're entirely unfamiliar with crashing there, we might have done it once or twice
425. # [02:05] <RyanVM> cpearce: does your push to inbound mean a few weeks is up? :)
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427. # [02:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9c758d2b757 - Mark Hammond - Bug 875157 (part 1) - add isParentWindowMainWidgetVisible to nsIDOMWindowUtils. r=bz
428. # [02:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/99fa110edd75 - Mark Hammond - Bug 875157 (part 2) - prevent background thumbnails from displaying alerts/dialogs. r=adw
429. # [02:07] <cpearce> RyanVM: kinda, I have determined the cause of most of the test failures while playing MP4 and MP3 files, and I'm currently working on addressing that. I may not get back to the orange for playing other formats for a bit, some things came up.
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431. # [02:07] <RyanVM> cpearce: better than nothing
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433. # [02:08] <RyanVM> you need to convince your sidekick Mr. Adenot to pitch in ;)
434. # [02:08] <cpearce> RyanVM: significantly better than nothing.
435. # [02:08] <padenot> yeah
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437. # [02:08] <RyanVM> :D
438. # [02:08] <padenot> which one are failing all the time?
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443. # [02:09] <RyanVM> some of the win8 failures are the most common
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445. # [02:09] <RyanVM> and some of the asserts we've been battling for ages still pop up from time to time
446. # [02:10] <padenot> might as well get a win8 machine, then
447. # [02:10] <RyanVM> :)
448. # [02:10] <padenot> or just install it
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469. # [02:18] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: looks like your dead code still does something :) https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=2777f9ae3173
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472. # [02:18] <Waldo> RyanVM: mostly dead
473. # [02:18] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: yeah, I saw. I guess the strong ref keeps other things alive or something
474. # [02:19] <RyanVM> dzbarsky: hey, if while debugging that you want to take a crack at the intermittent failure at the same crash address, feel free :D
475. # [02:19] <dzbarsky> RyanVM: the "XXX leaking" comment inspires loads of confidence
476. # [02:19] <Waldo> is https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/26df583835f6 still a proper way to trigger PGO builds?
477. # [02:19] <RyanVM> should work, yes
478. # [02:19] <Waldo> hm
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506. # [02:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14cf0572b788 - Anthony Jones - Bug 880932 - Fixed lack of response to APZC paint requests; r=BenWa
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525. # [02:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f16ce0a0f333 - Terrence Cole - Bug 880816 - Allow the store buffer to store and mark whole IonCodes; r=billm
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568. # [03:16] <KWierso|Home> philor: there are times I'd really like to know why the jetpack suite just continually moves from one really frequent intermittent failure to another...
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571. # [03:19] <Waldo> gremlins
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574. # [03:22] <@dolske> Waldo: http://i.imgur.com/MzBBDkC.gif
575. # [03:23] <philor> yeah, if you fix (or disable) a really frequent orange, you can see the gremlins get angry and throw a dozen failures that haven't happened for months at you, not surprising that they keep up a perpetual JP failure
576. # [03:23] <Waldo> dolske: just so!
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584. # [03:30] <RyanVM> dholbert_: lordy you're going to have a Werror stroke on win64 builds
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587. # [03:31] <RyanVM> dholbert_: warning spam up the wazoo for size_t conversions
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589. # [03:32] <philor> why is ehsan burning?
590. # [03:32] <RyanVM> probably because moz.build loves clobbering
591. # [03:32] <RyanVM> when in doubt...
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593. # [03:33] <RyanVM> looks like it wasn't smart enough to see that nsGkAtomList.h changed
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595. # [03:34] <RyanVM> sorry, I already hit my "XXX required a clobber" bug filing quota for the day
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597. # [03:34] <philor> GK_ATOM(windows_theme_aero_lite, "windows-theme-aero-light")
598. # [03:34] <philor> AppendElement(nsGkAtoms::windows_theme_aero_light)
599. # [03:35] <philor> that's not needs-clobber, that's needs-to-spell-light-or-lite-the-same-way-every-time
600. # [03:35] <RyanVM> ahaha, touche salesman
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602. # [03:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e5abccab73e - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 882948 follow-up - Fix a typo (sorry!)
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607. # [03:41] <RyanVM> aww, I was just about to push that
608. # [03:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0004b0e5b946 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 882948 follow-up - Fix the typo that actually breaks the build (not my day...)
609. # [03:41] <RyanVM> and that
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613. # [03:43] <RyanVM> ehsan: damn you, push racer
614. # [03:43] <RyanVM> and I was even going to do it with 50% fewer pushes :(
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617. # [03:44] <@ehsan> philor and everybody else, sorry :(
618. # [03:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: :(
619. # [03:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: I have this problem where I think of one word and write another phonetically similar sounding word...
620. # [03:44] <@ehsan> it used to be a problem that only I and a few other people knew about
621. # [03:44] <@ehsan> but now it's on the record
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624. # [03:44] <RyanVM> DAMN YOU HG AND YOUR IMMUTABLE HISTORY!!!11
625. # [03:44] <RyanVM> *shakes fist*
626. # [03:44] <@ehsan> RyanVM: hg strip
627. # [03:45] <philor> I have this problem where I think of any word that starts with the letter b, and I type "bug"
628. # [03:45] <RyanVM> now if ever there were an occasion to use it
629. # [03:45] <@ehsan> philor: I thought you'd write backout ;)
630. # [03:45] * @ehsan tries to remember what this condition is called...
631. # [03:45] <Waldo> ehsan: or burning :-)
632. # [03:46] <@ehsan> that too
633. # [03:46] <philor> or bustage
634. # [03:46] <@ehsan> Waldo: happy old nick btw
635. # [03:46] <@ehsan> one b, so many idea
636. # [03:46] <@ehsan> ideas, even
637. # [03:46] <RyanVM> so much easier to find him again
638. # [03:46] <Waldo> ehsan: happy new laptop with 4x 4GB RAM
639. # [03:46] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
640. # [03:46] <RyanVM> i should pester IT for a RAM upgrade next week while I'm out there
641. # [03:46] <@ehsan> Waldo: 16GB ram is so 2011
642. # [03:46] <philor> but backout is just "b{tab}" and bustage is just "b{down-arrow)"
643. # [03:46] <RyanVM> this thing was supposed to have 16 and they only gave me 8
644. # [03:47] <jgilbert> RyanVM: request 16 more, and you might end up with 24, like me
645. # [03:47] <RyanVM> ugh, these 64bit type conversion warnings are annoying
646. # [03:47] * philor is now known as philor|away
647. # [03:47] <RyanVM> jgilbert: how many SODIMM slots does this thing have?
648. # [03:47] * @ehsan goes back to watch the election news with a healthy level of fear
649. # [03:48] <RyanVM> Waldo: is there anything clever that can be done (besides just suppressing C4267 that is) about these?
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651. # [03:48] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: which machine?
652. # [03:48] <Waldo> RyanVM: which what these?
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654. # [03:49] <RyanVM> I'm doing a local Win64 build
655. # [03:49] <RyanVM> the "converting size_t to xxx" warnings are crazy
656. # [03:49] <RyanVM> hang on a sec, I'm linking xul.dll now
657. # [03:49] <RyanVM> we'll see what the warning count is
658. # [03:50] <RyanVM> it's ~400 for a 32bit build
659. # [03:50] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: w530
660. # [03:50] <Waldo> RyanVM: what's xxx? people should be using size_t more places, most likely
661. # [03:50] <jgilbert> RyanVM: four
662. # [03:50] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: the w520 has 4 sodimm slots, the spec says they can each hold a 4g stick
663. # [03:50] <RyanVM> Waldo: all kinds
664. # [03:50] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: but there are reports that it deals with 4x8g sticks just fine.
665. # [03:51] <jgilbert> mjrosenb: well, I'm running 2x4+2x8 on this w520
666. # [03:51] <RyanVM> Waldo: of course, I could probably just link you to a build log off tbpl
667. # [03:51] <Waldo> RyanVM: that'd help
668. # [03:51] <Waldo> :-)
669. # [03:51] <RyanVM> Waldo: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24121413&tree=Mozilla-Central&full=1
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671. # [03:54] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: jgilbert: tempting
672. # [03:54] <RyanVM> excessive, but tempting :D
673. # [03:54] <Waldo> looks like a dozen or so can be killed off with minor mfbt/tests/TestEndian.cpp changes
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675. # [03:54] <jgilbert> RyanVM: if nothing else, the fs cache eats it all up :)
676. # [03:55] <mjrosenb> and ld
677. # [03:55] <Waldo> NSPR and NSS need some fixing, it seems clear
678. # [03:55] <mjrosenb> don't forget about ld
679. # [03:55] <mjrosenb> ld will eat all of your memory and not even say 'thank you'
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681. # [03:55] <RyanVM> link.exe FTW :D :P
682. # [03:56] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: sounds like a symlink to ld to me :-p
683. # [03:56] <RyanVM> heh
684. # [03:56] <jgilbert> mjrosenb: yeah, I saw ld hitting >7GB earlier this week :)
685. # [03:56] <RyanVM> geez
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687. # [03:57] <RyanVM> Waldo: lolz - 3733 compiler warnings
688. # [03:57] <RyanVM> obviously I can't say all 3300 are C4267, but I bet most are :P
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690. # [03:57] <Waldo> RyanVM: put simply, we've got a lot of garbage code that's assuming bad things about size_t and (most often) unsigned
691. # [03:58] <RyanVM> though why am I also thinking we suppress that warning on 32bit builds
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693. # [03:58] <Waldo> well, in 32-bit size_t is uint32_t-compatible, which kills off many of those
694. # [03:58] <Waldo> although not all
695. # [03:58] <Waldo> occasional stupid like sticking size_t into int
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698. # [03:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91cc9c75c3d1 - Chenxia Liu - Bug 873072 - Launching settings from Android system notification crashes if Gecko has been killed. r=sriram
699. # [03:59] <Waldo> I'd bet there are actually a lot fewer actual instances than that, too, because ones in headers will get spewed more than once
700. # [04:00] <Waldo> js\src\jsutil.h(223), js\src\assembler\assembler\X86Assembler.h(1703), etc.
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702. # [04:01] <RyanVM> mmm, I love when I get dev.tree-management whine emails because my backout supposedly regressed performance
703. # [04:01] <RyanVM> Waldo: yeah, hopefully njn's work helps with that
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705. # [04:02] <RyanVM> man, this must be the placebo affect
706. # [04:02] <RyanVM> but this 64bit build feels way snappier
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709. # [04:02] <Waldo> RyanVM: I wouldn't expect it to, as this stuff will still appear once per file included into
710. # [04:02] <RyanVM> of course, it also hasn't be chugging along with tbpl all day
711. # [04:03] <bz> so here's a question
712. # [04:03] <bz> say I have an error message
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714. # [04:03] <bz> like this
715. # [04:03] <bz> MSG_DEF(MSG_INVALID_ARG, 2, "Argument {0} is not valid for any of the {1}-argument overloads.")
716. # [04:04] <bz> Would people expect the number in {0} to be 0-based or one-based?
717. # [04:04] <RyanVM> interesting, I wonder if about:memory's accounting is right
718. # [04:04] <jgilbert> RyanVM: 'sort of'? :P
719. # [04:04] <heycam> bz, 0-based, if there are {0}s in the message!
720. # [04:04] <RyanVM> task manager is showing ~640MB, but explicit is at ~390MB
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722. # [04:04] <RyanVM> on a freshly-started browser, that seems pretty wide
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725. # [04:05] <bz> heycam: no, no
726. # [04:05] <bz> heycam: the indexing is 0-based
727. # [04:05] <bz> heycam: the {0} and {1} are placeholders that get replaced with actual useful things
728. # [04:05] <RyanVM> well, private's pretty close
729. # [04:05] <heycam> oh the argument index number
730. # [04:05] <RyanVM> which is the one that matters I guess
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732. # [04:05] <heycam> "Argument 0" sounds a bit funny. "Argument a index 0" sounds ok.
733. # [04:05] <heycam> *at
734. # [04:05] <bz> heycam: So this would be like if I have "void foo(Node arg); void foo(ArrayBuffer arg);"
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736. # [04:06] <bz> and then I pass in a string
737. # [04:06] <bz> We do "Argument 0" right now
738. # [04:06] <heycam> "First argument" would be good :)
739. # [04:06] * bz wants to change to "Argument 1"
740. # [04:06] <bz> mmmm
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742. # [04:06] <bz> Doing "First argument" is a lot of work. ;)
743. # [04:06] <heycam> I'm sure :)
744. # [04:06] <heycam> "Argument 1" seems more right than "Argument 0" to me
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746. # [04:07] <bz> ok
747. # [04:07] * bz has better error messages
748. # [04:07] <bz> [21:53:29.901] TypeError: Value can not be converted to a dictionary. @ file:///tmp/test.html:10
749. # [04:07] <bz> vs
750. # [04:07] <bz> [22:06:51.492] TypeError: Argument 2 of TextEncoder.encode can not be converted to a dictionary. @ file:///private/tmp/test.html:10
751. # [04:08] <heycam> much more helpful
752. # [04:08] <bz> That was the idea
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755. # [04:09] <heycam> (s/can not/cannot/ ?)
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758. # [04:09] <Waldo> can't
759. # [04:09] <heycam> can too
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762. # [04:10] <bz> I could do can't
763. # [04:10] * bz had already done cannot
764. # [04:11] <bz> The main badness that will remain when I'm done is with getters and setters. :(
765. # [04:11] <bz> because I just don't have the info I want there
766. # [04:11] <markh> can can
767. # [04:11] <markh> firebot: dance
768. # [04:11] * firebot does a little dance
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770. # [04:12] <bz> Then again, people are less likely to hit the problem with getters and setters
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772. # [04:14] <bz> Do we have any plans to switch our webgl stuff from "experimental-webgl" to "webgl"?
773. # [04:15] <jgilbert> bz: yes, it has already happened
774. # [04:16] <Jesse_> bz: re "Argument {0} is not valid for any of the {1}-argument overloads." why not list the valid types?
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779. # [04:20] <Waldo> because our error reporting mechanism doesn't support variadic reporting like that, being replacement-based as it is
780. # [04:20] <Waldo> perhaps you could have a bunch of MSG_* enums, but it get really hackish
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783. # [04:22] <Waldo> s/get/would get/
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787. # [04:24] <bz> jgilbert: huh, for some reason I couldn't get it to work....
788. # [04:24] * bz tries again
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790. # [04:25] <bz> Jesse_: Because that would take a bit more work
791. # [04:25] <bz> Jesse_: We _do_ list it for unions....
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794. # [04:25] <bz> Jesse_: But frankly, the new reporting will make it clear
795. # [04:26] <bz> becaues it will say what the method name is
796. # [04:26] <bz> and then you can just look at the interface to see what the valid types are
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798. # [04:26] <bz> er, because
799. # [04:27] <jgilbert> bz: it should work on desktop nightly from at most a day or two ago
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804. # [04:31] <bz> "[22:31:37.472] TypeError: Argument 2 is not valid for any of the 2-argument overloads of WebGLRenderingContext.uniform1fv. @ file:///private/tmp/test.html:4"
805. # [04:32] <bz> jgilbert: yep, works. I have no idea what I did wrong when I tried it an hour ago....
806. # [04:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce02e3335eb7 - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 759964 - Part 1 - Add allowMedia attribute to nsIDocShell to disable HTML5 media elements. r=bz
807. # [04:33] <jgilbert> bz: unless you tried it on mobile or b2g, it should have worked *shrug*
808. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8830e3fe79ff - Matthew Noorenberghe - Bug 759964 - Part 2 - Set allowMedia = false in social and identity code to address TODO comments. r=gavin
809. # [04:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6970e918f924 - Drew Willcoxon - Bug 759964 - Part 3 - Add nsIDocShell.allowMedia test. r=test
810. # [04:33] <bz> jgilbert: no, on mac
811. # [04:33] <bz> jgilbert: dunno
812. # [04:33] <bz> ok, so now I will take bets on whether a patch that changes these exception messages will pass mochitests... ;)
813. # [04:35] <jgilbert> bz: passed on my machine :)
814. # [04:35] <jgilbert> (if you mean the webgl ones)
815. # [04:35] <bz> jgilbert: I'm changing pretty much all the exception messages from webidl bindings
816. # [04:35] <bz> jgilbert: to be a bit more informative
817. # [04:35] <jgilbert> oh, nice
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820. # [04:41] <bz> jgilbert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882653 if you care
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845. # [04:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b7dbf40666b1 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out b06b9c8b19a3 (bug 873149) for turning every Android mochitest orange
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848. # [04:59] <philor> "Slowest: 147880ms - /tests/content/events/test/test_wheel_default_action.html"
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850. # [05:00] <philor> maybe we could just take the slowest test in every hunk out and shoot it, as a motivator for the other tests?
851. # [05:00] * heycam imagines the test scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling the mouse wheel
852. # [05:00] <philor> "yep, default action is still to scroll"
853. # [05:01] * mjrosenb imagines it humming "row your boat" at the same time
854. # [05:01] <philor> "yep, scrolling now"
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859. # [05:08] <vlad> where is ehsan so I can make fun of him for his patch series
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862. # [05:10] <@dolske> scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, rawwwwhiiiiiide
863. # [05:10] <@dolske> *whipcrack*
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865. # [05:11] <Callek> dolske++
866. # [05:11] <Callek> dolske: now record yourself on vidyo doing that, with the whip and all
867. # [05:11] <Callek> so I can publish a link on planet
868. # [05:12] <Waldo> dolske: I'm going to have to see your union card
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871. # [05:13] <Callek> Waldo: dolske gets kicked out for rawhide, and <name redacted> doesn't get thrown out of the union for the nsa yammer thread?
872. # [05:14] <@dolske> Waldo++
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900. # [05:40] <@roc> heh. OSX 10.8: "Post to Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, and Vimeo. Right from the app you’re in." Spot the missing video site.
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902. # [05:40] <glob> heh
903. # [05:40] <Waldo> roc: tinyvid.tv?
904. # [05:41] <Jesse_> roc: hehe
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949. # [06:21] <mjrosenb> khuey: yoric?
950. # [06:21] <@khuey> he's in the channel
951. # [06:21] <@khuey> so I must have already -b'd him
952. # [06:22] <mjrosenb> roc: there are a bunch I can think of, but they are likely not apropriate for this channel.
953. # [06:25] <@khuey> heh
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1007. # [07:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c0429c24eef - L. David Baron - Bug 882573 patch 2: Add a separate DirtyRuleProcessors method to nsStyleSet, and use it from existing methods. r=heycam
1008. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f97351906ed3 - L. David Baron - Bug 882573 patch 1: Move the style attribute style sheet from nsDocument to nsIDocument, and devirtualize its getter. r=bzbarsky
1009. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73a46cde2185 - L. David Baron - Bug 882573 patch 4: Make nsHTMLStyleSheet and nsHTMLCSSStyleSheet stop implementing nsIStyleSheet. r=heycam
1010. # [07:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54d0eecf55f2 - L. David Baron - Bug 882573 patch 3: Stop putting the presentational hint and style attribute style sheets in the style set's list of style sheets; put them only in the list of rule
1011. # [07:35] <firebot> processors. r=heycam
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1014. # [07:36] <bz> Expected?
1015. # [07:37] <bz> Looks like so
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1065. # [08:32] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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1068. # [08:33] <Yoric> hi
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1078. # [08:43] <whimboo> dholbert: re bug 822500... i haven't thought something else. was just for your information :)
1079. # [08:44] <dholbert> whimboo, gotcha. thanks! :)
1080. # [08:44] <dholbert> glad to know that it's tracked
1081. # [08:44] <whimboo> dholbert: one of the most annoying things atm
1082. # [08:45] <dholbert> yeah, seems like it'd make it hard to hang up
1083. # [08:45] <whimboo> dholbert: especially in roaming mode where it can cause a bit of extra charge
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1161. # [09:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1646619b5221 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 882111 part 1 - Some js::Interpret cleanup. r=luke
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1170. # [09:54] <NeilAway> dolske: they see me scrolling, they hating
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1183. # [10:05] <Gijs> Do system event listeners still fire for an event if a non-system listener does e.preventDefault()?
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1187. # [10:07] <Ms2ger> I think that's (part of) the point, yes
1188. # [10:07] <Ms2ger> smaug?
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1190. # [10:08] <Gijs> The docs only say they fire even if the non-system listener stopPropagations
1191. # [10:08] <Gijs> but then goes on to say that they would be the usual way of implementing the default behaviour or something
1192. # [10:08] <Gijs> which makes me wonder if they'd even fire if e.preventDefault() is called or if it's the listener's responsibility to check for that?
1193. # [10:09] <Gijs> ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIEventListenerService#addSystemEventListener%28%29 )
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1199. # [10:18] <@smaug> Ms2ger: ?
1200. # [10:18] <@smaug> oh
1201. # [10:19] <@smaug> Gijs: preventDefault doesn't affect to whether event listeners are called
1202. # [10:20] <Gijs> smaug: cool, thanks! :)
1203. # [10:20] <@smaug> and stopPropagation is per group in Gecko
1204. # [10:20] <@smaug> so, calling stopPropagation in a web script doesn't affect to system event listeners
1205. # [10:21] <@smaug> Gijs: nsEventTargetChainItem::HandleEventTargetChain isn't actually that hard to read these days
1206. # [10:22] <Gijs> smaug: OK, awesome, thanks! :)
1207. # [10:24] <NeilAway> Gijs: system event listeners are expected to check the value of defaultPrevented of course
1208. # [10:25] <Gijs> Right, makes sense...
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1281. # [12:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18c1fd169792 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 880208 - Add UnsafeGet and UnsafeGetImmutable intrinsics r=djvj
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1288. # [12:23] <@smaug> past: ping
1289. # [12:23] <past> smaug: pong
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1291. # [12:24] <@smaug> past: should be just not list the all listener?
1292. # [12:24] <@smaug> since it is not bound to any type
1293. # [12:24] <@smaug> and is in all ways very special
1294. # [12:24] <@smaug> that would be the simplest fix, I think
1295. # [12:24] <past> I'm not sure I understand what you mean
1296. # [12:25] <@smaug> past: getListenerInfo gives a list of event listeners
1297. # [12:26] <@smaug> the crash happens because that code doesn't deal with the all-events-listener
1298. # [12:26] <past> if you mean whether I can avoid using the addListenerForAllEvents, I'm afraid I can't
1299. # [12:26] <@smaug> no, I don't mean that
1300. # [12:26] <past> unless you can tell me a way to find all event listeners on a page without it
1301. # [12:26] <@smaug> I mean whether the all-events-listener should be returned in the event listener list
1302. # [12:27] <past> ah, I should have thought about that
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1304. # [12:27] <past> you think filtering that would avoid the crash then?
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1306. # [12:29] <past> hm, I can't actually think of a way to do that
1307. # [12:29] <@smaug> past: yes, that would be the easiest fix I could do
1308. # [12:29] <@smaug> I mean I need to fix something in eventlistenermanager
1309. # [12:29] <@smaug> and that just happens to be the easiest fix
1310. # [12:29] <@smaug> let me think..
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1312. # [12:29] <past> right, the fix should be in gecko code, I can't see a way to work around that in my code
1313. # [12:31] <@smaug> past: I could actually make eventlisterinfo to return null for type, if the listener is for all-the-events
1314. # [12:31] <past> that would be fine by me
1315. # [12:31] <past> I don't care about chrome listeners anyway
1316. # [12:32] <past> (well, yet)
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1319. # [12:33] <past> I mean I would love to show them in the Browser Debugger, but these APIs don't work for chrome code, right?
1320. # [12:33] <@smaug> past: sure it works
1321. # [12:34] <@smaug> it works with all the event targets in main thread
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1325. # [12:34] <past> do both getListenerInfoFor and addListenerForAllEvents work for chrome code?
1326. # [12:35] <@smaug> yes
1327. # [12:35] <@smaug> there is nothing non-chrome specific there
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1329. # [12:36] <past> that's great, I'll have to retest then
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1331. # [12:36] <@smaug> past: I'll upload a patch in a minute
1332. # [12:36] <@smaug> will upload it to try too
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1335. # [12:37] <past> smaug: thank you for the fastest turnaround ever!
1336. # [12:37] <Ms2ger> past, eh, he needs to get it reviewed too ;)
1337. # [12:38] <past> Ms2ger: I have faith in him :-)
1338. # [12:38] <@smaug> Ms2ger: want to review ;)
1339. # [12:38] <past> plus I can add his patch to my local queue
1340. # [12:38] <Ms2ger> eventlistenermanager? Not with a ten-foot pole
1341. # [12:38] <Ms2ger> Sorry :)
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1343. # [12:39] <guestish> is it ok to use "-Ox -GLATFys -fp:fast -arch:SSE2" optimization flags? what do you say?
1344. # [12:41] <tbsaunde> for what?
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1357. # [12:57] <guestish> tbsaunde, is it best to use "-O2 -GL -arch:sse2" or "-Ox -GLATFys -fp:fast -arch:SSE2" for better optimization?
1358. # [12:58] <guestish> for performance!
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1361. # [12:58] <tbsaunde> guestish: how would I know?
1362. # [12:59] <guestish> tbsaunde, developers don't know such things?
1363. # [12:59] <tbsaunde> guestish: I meant is this for mozilla stuff or your own builds? if the latter just use whatever the helk you like
1364. # [13:00] <guestish> tbsaunde, firefox for personal usage
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1367. # [13:00] <tbsaunde> I can't see any reason the average one would
1368. # [13:01] <guestish> tbsaunde, because i am disabling features that doesn't matter for me
1369. # [13:01] <guestish> and for fun
1370. # [13:02] <tbsaunde> guestish: well then do whatever you like
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1372. # [13:03] <guestish> tbsaunde, yes. but what flags are the best for performance?
1373. # [13:04] <Ms2ger> Depends on the way you use it
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1376. # [13:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/0def37e9cb35 - Florian Quèze - Bug 878419 - Syntax error in make_incremental_updates.py since bug 841094, r=glandium, a=npotb.
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1379. # [13:05] <guestish> Ms2ger, eleborate it please
1380. # [13:05] <Ms2ger> Well, I can't
1381. # [13:05] <guestish> Ms2ger, why? :D
1382. # [13:06] <Ms2ger> Because I don't know anything about your browsing habits
1383. # [13:06] <Ms2ger> Or optimization flags, for that matter
1384. # [13:07] <guestish> Ms2ger, are you compiling ff?
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1386. # [13:07] <Ms2ger> Yeah, with the defaults
1387. # [13:08] <guestish> Ms2ger, pgo?
1388. # [13:08] <Ms2ger> No
1389. # [13:08] <guestish> Ms2ger, on windows?
1390. # [13:09] <Ms2ger> Ubuntu
1391. # [13:09] <guestish> ok
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1398. # [13:13] <guestish> i am seeking an answer from an experienced firefox developer. i am asking "what optimization flags would you use? (without pgo, on windows)
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1403. # [13:14] <guestish> is there an experienced developer here?
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1405. # [13:16] <guestish> are you concerning because you think i will release my build? i will not relese, i am building for myself
1406. # [13:16] * Gijs just uses whatever mach defaults to.
1407. # [13:17] <guestish> Gijs, why?
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1409. # [13:17] <guestish> Gijs, are you an experienced developer?
1410. # [13:19] <KaiRo> we try to make the default flags to result in the most performant builds - if that result is what you want, use the default flags
1411. # [13:21] <guestish> KaiRo, why do some other famous custom firefox builders use interesting flags?
1412. # [13:22] <KaiRo> because they think those help
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1416. # [13:22] <guestish> KaiRo, are you an experienced developer?
1417. # [13:22] <till> guestish: I guess turning on things that are only available on some subset of CPUs might increase performance. Those configurations aren't very interesting for Firefox developers, however, because we just can't use them for releases. That also makes them way less well tested, so you might trade in stability for some modicum of performance.
1418. # [13:23] <KaiRo> guestish: I'm an experienced Mozilla community member, and closely following release engineering and management - i'm no developer
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1421. # [13:24] <guestish> till, thanks. i am seeking an answer like that :D can you tell me what flags would you use for intel core i5 ivy bridge?
1422. # [13:25] <guestish> the build will only persist in this pc
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1424. # [13:25] <till> guestish: as I said, specialized build flags just aren't interesting to Firefox developers. So no, I've simply got no idea whatsoever what would work best for that.
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1428. # [13:28] <guestish> till, so firefox developers has no idea about that?
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1430. # [13:29] <guestish> till, don't get me wrong. i am trying to understand
1431. # [13:29] <darktrojan> of the sample of 4 people you've talked to so far, you could draw that conclusion
1432. # [13:29] <till> guestish: some might, I guess. But do you see the point about those just not being helpful for what we're doing?
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1434. # [13:33] <guestish> till, i see. ff developers are simple making politics about that.
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1438. # [13:33] <Gijs> guestish: if you would like Firefox to be faster, your time would be much better spent working on actual performance issues in the code. Those are likely to provide better speed improvements than some compiler flags, and will also help people other than yourself. Sadly, there isn't really a single flag for which we can go, "psst, if you enable this, it will be 10 times faster"
1439. # [13:33] <till> guestish: now I'm confused. What makes you say it's got anything to do with politics?
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1441. # [13:36] <guestish> till, i think you are not talking about that because you think it would harm the company if it was possible to make much optimized ff,
1442. # [13:37] <Gijs> guestish: we're not a company, we're a non-profit. If we could magically make it faster, we would, but we can't. Sorry.
1443. # [13:37] <guestish> Gijs, you are right. but you have to make it for every computer.
1444. # [13:38] <Gijs> guestish: I'm sure your computer is a special snowflake, but it's not a "Firefox could run 10 times faster here if only I could find the right compiler options" kind of special.
1445. # [13:38] <guestish> so it should also be optimized for relatively old pcs
1446. # [13:39] <till> guestish: I'm not sure how to respond to that.
1447. # [13:39] <Ms2ger> If you do find a way to make Firefox ten times faster, we'd love to hear
1448. # [13:39] <Pike> guestish: modern cpus are optimized to run code for relatively old PCs
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1451. # [13:40] <Pike> for the real good stuff, we do feature detection at runtime, like offloading stuff from CPU to GPU
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1453. # [13:41] <till> guestish: Most of us working on Firefox just don't have any use for the knowledge you want to get, so we didn't ever acquire it. If I knew how to optimize a build for specific architectures, I'd happily tell you. Seeing how suspicious you are of everything everyone here says, however, it doesn't appear likely to me that you'll believe that.
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1458. # [13:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccd298a9db28 - Shelly Lin - Bug 882956 - Fix WebAudio stack-buffer-overflow crash. r=ehsan.
1459. # [13:44] <RyanVM> till: I don't know, I was going to land a patch for a 50% speedup recently, but then Eric Schmidt popped in and said I couldn't because it would make us too fast over Chrome.
1460. # [13:44] * Ms2ger whacks RyanVM
1461. # [13:44] <Pike> lol
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1465. # [13:45] <Pike> RyanVM: did you speed up the blink tag?
1466. # [13:45] <RyanVM> I'm appealing to Larry Page, though, so we'll see
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1469. # [13:45] <till> RyanVM: that's just sad. For ages now, I've been saying that we should just allow the NSA to put those servers into our basement. Had we done that, I'm sure we'd finally be allowed to do all the good stuff.
1470. # [13:46] <RyanVM> So THAT'S why we renovated the SF office
1471. # [13:46] <Gijs> RyanVM: you didn't know?
1472. # [13:46] <Gijs> RyanVM: are you saying you thought that was *actually* a brewery on the first floor before we took it over?
1473. # [13:47] <RyanVM> :)
1474. # [13:47] <guestish> don't get me wrong people. i am just asking questions
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1479. # [13:48] <guestish> also using firefox because i trust them
1480. # [13:48] <till> guestish: I get that. But you seem to only be interested in believing answers that you want to hear. That makes it kinda hard.
1481. # [13:49] <@dbaron> guestish, you're probably better off using the defaults, because they're well tested and won't trigger bugs that occur only with certain options that nobody's run into before. The performance variation with different compiler options is probably less than 5% variation on general benchmarks, and probably in most cases even less than that. (Though doing PGO can be a little more -- maybe 10%?? -- but that's a substantial amount of wor
1482. # [13:49] <@dbaron> k.)
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1484. # [13:49] <@dbaron> guestish, and the defaults we use are probably at the good end of that ~5% already. (I'm ignoring "no optimization" for that band -- that's substantially slower.)
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1493. # [13:53] <guestish> dbaron, every build that i made so far sucked against default firefox lol
1494. # [13:53] <edmorley> guestish: default firefox builds are pgo builds, were yours?
1495. # [13:53] <guestish> edmorley, no
1496. # [13:53] <guestish> edmorley, using visual stuio 2012 express
1497. # [13:54] <edmorley> guestish:
1498. # [13:54] <edmorley> guestish: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Building_with_Profile-Guided_Optimization
1499. # [13:54] <gaston> there's your problem: windows :)
1500. # [13:54] <guestish> edmorley, i know. express does't support that
1501. # [13:54] <edmorley> guestish: but I would recommend just sticking with the pre-built nightlies to be honest
1502. # [13:54] <edmorley> does it not?
1503. # [13:55] <guestish> edmorley, it doesn't
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1505. # [13:55] <guestish> edmorley, building stable for myself
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1507. # [13:57] <clever> i'm having some trouble with cross-origin stuff and window.onerror, anybody know details on how it works internally?
1508. # [13:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce43d28276e4 - Brian Hackett - Bug 678037 - Enable lazy JS parsing and fix various bugs, r=waldo,evilpie,nobody.
1509. # [13:59] <RyanVM> \o/
1510. # [13:59] <RyanVM> bhackett++
1511. # [14:00] <till> \o/ indeed!
1512. # [14:00] <Gijs> :o
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1520. # [14:03] <@roc> YEEHA
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1523. # [14:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fbdcb79281ae - Julian Seward - Bug 882903 - SPS breadkpad unwinder segfaults with on-demand decompression on. r=glandium.
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1525. # [14:04] <gaston> 'and fix various bugs' :)
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1528. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> Sounds like roc is happy
1529. # [14:09] <Yoric> What's the best way to define a JavaScript object in which attempting to dereference a field that doesn't exist will cause an error?
1530. # [14:09] <Yoric> Should I write a Proxy?
1531. # [14:09] <Ms2ger> Yes
1532. # [14:09] * till hopes that push will fix the "Assertion failure: hasScript()" he encountered just now.
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1534. # [14:09] <till> Yoric: yep
1535. # [14:09] <Yoric> Thanks.
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1537. # [14:10] <@roc> JS benchmark improvements and major real-world memory usage reductions. Everyone should be happy.
1538. # [14:11] <clever> it may also help with a game i'm playing, 4mb of minified js being eval()'d all at once
1539. # [14:11] <RyanVM> is that my phone ringing?
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1541. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, does your phone ring for oranges?
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1543. # [14:13] <RyanVM> it was Eric Schmidt again
1544. # [14:14] <till> oh no!
1545. # [14:14] <till> RyanVM: can you stall him until we've got builds out? That might make it a fact.
1546. # [14:14] * RyanVM waits for this to go orange so he actually has to back it out
1547. # [14:14] <till> clever: I'm not sure if eval()'d scripts qualify for lazy parsing. Hopefully they do, but I fear not.
1548. # [14:15] <clever> till: the only reason it even does eval is to render a fancy progress bar while loading the code
1549. # [14:15] <till> RyanVM: ah, that sneaky "go orange" button?
1550. # [14:15] <till> clever: I see. It might still work, I'm just not sure.
1551. # [14:15] <clever> till: it opens a html file in an iframe, with <script>s('1024 bytes of code');</script> repeated over and over
1552. # [14:15] <RyanVM> till: comes in handy sometimes ;)
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1554. # [14:16] <clever> till: each time it calls s, it moves the progress bar, and builds up the string of raw source
1555. # [14:16] <clever> then eval's the entire mess
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1557. # [14:16] <clever> so now all line numbers are hosed, and the debugger cant find any source
1558. # [14:16] <till> oh
1559. # [14:17] <clever> the browser runs each <script> as it finds them, so it can monitor the download progress with ease
1560. # [14:17] <clever> and all they do is append 1024 bytes to an array
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1563. # [14:17] <till> clever: why not use XMLHttpRequest and load the entire thing at once?
1564. # [14:18] <clever> dont know why they didnt go that route
1565. # [14:18] <clever> and line numbers/debugger would still be hosed by the eval
1566. # [14:18] <till> that setup sounds kinda insane, honestly
1567. # [14:18] <till> well, there's source maps for that, now
1568. # [14:18] <clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 clever clever 6.4M May 14 11:21 data_en.html
1569. # [14:18] <clever> i was off by 2mb, lol
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1572. # [14:19] <mb0742> #introduction
1573. # [14:19] <clever> till: let me put a sample up...
1574. # [14:19] <mb0742> Oh shit I'm a moron lol
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1576. # [14:20] <till> clever: I think I understand the scheme. It's just ... surprising?
1577. # [14:20] <clever> till: this is the source after i strip out the <script> tags, http://gallery.earthtools.ca/download/data2.js
1578. # [14:21] <till> clever: madness, I say
1579. # [14:21] <clever> yeah
1580. # [14:21] <clever> after unpacking it and cleaning up the source (in an automated fasion, or id be insane:P) its 14mb
1581. # [14:21] <clever> in 892 files, lol
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1583. # [14:22] <yzen> Yoric: ping
1584. # [14:22] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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1586. # [14:23] <yzen> Yoric: re your comment about the benchmark file, I only close the file in case of an error when calling fcntl (does not happen when I run it)
1587. # [14:23] <Yoric> Ah, my bad, I read too quickly.
1588. # [14:24] <Yoric> Could you redo the test with a file that actually has content?
1589. # [14:24] <Yoric> I want to be sure that we're not encountering a behavior that takes place only with sparse files.
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1591. # [14:25] <yzen> sure, can do
1592. # [14:25] <Yoric> If your current results are not skewed by something along these lines, we have found an interesting information.
1593. # [14:25] <Yoric> (i.e. readahead is useless on MacOS X for our usage scenario)
1594. # [14:25] <Yoric> Not very satisfying, but still an interesting information.
1595. # [14:25] <yzen> :( that'd be a bummer
1596. # [14:25] <SDUP> is PL_InitArenaPool still usable in the case of xpcom dev. (as seen here : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350092)
1597. # [14:25] <Yoric> Well, as we say in a lab, a negative result is still a result.
1598. # [14:26] <yzen> haha , true, i can also benchmark something for linux if you'd like
1599. # [14:27] <SDUP> it seems that it's now a deprecated funcs
1600. # [14:27] <yzen> Yoric: ^
1601. # [14:28] <Yoric> yzen: Good idea.
1602. # [14:28] <Yoric> Do you have a blog, btw?
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1605. # [14:29] <yzen> not atm, but was thinking of starting one actually
1606. # [14:29] <Yoric> This would be a nice first entry.
1607. # [14:30] <yzen> Yoric: :), alright, ill tinker with it a little bit and update you once i have the results
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1619. # [14:44] <RyanVM> so there isn't a way to build with geolocation disabled?
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1631. # [14:52] <RyanVM> BenWa: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24148449&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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1644. # [15:02] <BenWa> RyanVM: looking
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1651. # [15:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3890895968af - Frederik Braun - Bug 879316 - Clean up CSP logging code. r=imelven
1652. # [15:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/229c4d26630e - Rick Eyre - Bug 882817 - Fix QI implementation of HTMLTrackElement. r=bz
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1654. # [15:07] <BenWa> RyanVM: Gosh, I wish it was on its own job so we could hide it for a day or two =\
1655. # [15:07] <RyanVM> yeah...
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1657. # [15:08] <BenWa> RyanVM: I wonder if it's because it still has the old libxul built on that machine because of the depends problem
1658. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> Are we backing gtest out again?
1659. # [15:09] <BenWa> RyanVM: It's only a one off intermittent right?
1660. # [15:09] <BenWa> Ms2ger: No, hold on. I may just disable that test instead
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1662. # [15:09] <Ms2ger> Aww :)
1663. # [15:10] <RyanVM> yes, just a one-off so far
1664. # [15:10] <@smaug> how does one run xpcshell tests these days
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1668. # [15:10] <Ms2ger> ./mach xpcshell-test?
1669. # [15:11] <BenWa> Ms2ger: Why so eager to back it out. Don't you like fast unit tests?
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1671. # [15:11] <Ms2ger> BenWa, mm... But backing out is fun too ;)
1672. # [15:12] <gaston> unless you're the one being backed out :p
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1674. # [15:12] <Ms2ger> Yeah, then it's no fun at all
1675. # [15:12] <BenWa> Or you like progress :)
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1679. # [15:16] <BenWa> RyanVM: I think finishing bug 882937, which I have a WIP for, and requesting a clobber will fix this. I'll wrap this up this morning and hopefully we wont get many orange until then. If you do backout anyways let's only remove bug 844852
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1681. # [15:17] <RyanVM> I'm OK waiting
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1689. # [15:25] <@smaug> so, how does mach decide which objdir it uses
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1691. # [15:26] <@ted> smaug: from the mozconfig
1692. # [15:26] <@smaug> ugh
1693. # [15:26] <@smaug> well, I guess that is the only option
1694. # [15:26] <@ted> also i think if you run it from an objdir it'll just use that
1695. # [15:26] <@ted> if you put the mach script in $PATH, i think you can cd $objdir and run it
1696. # [15:26] <@smaug> well, I'll continue using the good old stuff :)
1697. # [15:26] <@smaug> hopefully it won't get more broken
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1700. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> smaug, yeah, multiple objdirs aren't figured out yet
1701. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> Until then, the old stuff should still work
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1713. # [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d2567f054209 - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 882986 - A source map's sourcesContent doesn't work when the original file path is absolute; r=dcamp
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1715. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/81f9864508e1 - Heather Arthur - Bug 881633 - Style Editor should remember last selected stylesheet and line when page is reloaded; r=paul
1716. # [15:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/be23c06aab96 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and fx-team
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1726. # [15:50] <@smaug> how do I unhide all the logging going to terminal
1727. # [15:50] <@smaug> even in debug build running xpcshell tests hides all the useful stuff
1728. # [15:50] <@gavin> "unhide"?
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1731. # [15:50] <@gavin> oh, for xpcshell you can check the logs
1732. # [15:51] <@gavin> I forge where they are stored
1733. # [15:51] <@smaug> well, that isn't user friendly
1734. # [15:51] <@gavin> yeah I know
1735. # [15:51] <@smaug> can I actually get those warnings and assertions to terminal?
1736. # [15:51] <@gavin> probably, don't know how offhand
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1741. # [15:54] <@ted> if you run with check-one or check-interactive, yeah
1742. # [15:54] <@ted> not sure if mach supports that
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1744. # [15:54] <@smaug> not using mach
1745. # [15:55] <@smaug> ah, check-interactive
1746. # [15:55] <@smaug> I wonder what that is
1747. # [15:55] <@smaug> maybe mdn knows
1748. # [15:55] <@smaug> the defaults are odd though
1749. # [15:56] <@smaug> with testing the defaults tend to be something for tbpl, not for users
1750. # [15:56] <@ted> check-interactive is "run xpcshell under a debugger"
1751. # [15:57] <@smaug> hmm, no, I don't want that
1752. # [15:57] <@ted> right, so, i think check-one will do what you want
1753. # [15:57] <@smaug> I just need the normal stdout/stderr output to terminal
1754. # [15:57] <@smaug> ok
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1756. # [15:58] <@ted> it's really just passing --verbose to runxpcshelltests
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1758. # [15:58] <@ted> if there's no way to do that with mach we should fix that
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1760. # [15:58] <@smaug> and have --verbose the default mode when running debug build
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1763. # [15:59] <@ted> for in-tree tests that seems fine
1764. # [15:59] <@ted> actually for running tests from the objdir there's no reason we can't have --verbose be the default always i guess
1765. # [15:59] <@smaug> the warning and such used to be printed to terminal
1766. # [16:00] <@ehsan> BenWa: ping
1767. # [16:00] <@smaug> s/warning/warnings/
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1769. # [16:01] <@ted> are you sure?
1770. # [16:01] <@ted> i don't think they ever were for xpcshell tests
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1772. # [16:01] <@ted> pretty sure we've always suppressed the output except on failure
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1775. # [16:02] <@smaug> hmm
1776. # [16:02] <@smaug> or am I thinking some other tests
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1781. # [16:05] <janv> wow, I can see printfs on the try server even on Android
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1785. # [16:06] <froydnj> smaug: I think you are thinking about other tests
1786. # [16:06] <froydnj> the xpcshell behavior is annoying
1787. # [16:07] <@ted> it makes sense though
1788. # [16:07] <@ted> we're trying to move closer to that in other test suites
1789. # [16:07] <@ted> not spew out tons of output for tests that are passing
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1792. # [16:07] <@smaug> hiding warnings makes sense?
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1795. # [16:07] <@smaug> spewing the output for tests in debug builds is super useful
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1800. # [16:08] <froydnj> hm, download update for b2g, suddenly another one is ready right after reboot
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1809. # [16:12] <secretrobotron> ehsan: noooo
1810. # [16:12] <secretrobotron> simplicity :(
1811. # [16:12] <@ehsan> complexity ftw
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1816. # [16:16] <edmorley> RyanVM: the birch failed B2G build is due to bug 852321 btw
1817. # [16:16] <RyanVM> edmorley: discussing w/ catlee in #ateam
1818. # [16:16] <RyanVM> he's backing out
1819. # [16:16] <RyanVM> Gaia Pushbot FTW
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1821. # [16:17] <edmorley> ah I only checked #releng
1822. # [16:17] <edmorley> indeed
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1835. # [16:24] * @ted wonders what complexity ehsan is introducing
1836. # [16:24] <@ehsan> ted: it's about MediaStreamAudioSourceNode, are you interested? :)
1837. # [16:24] <@ted> no
1838. # [16:24] * @ted stays out
1839. # [16:25] <@ehsan> :D
1840. # [16:25] <@ehsan> smart choice
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1854. # [16:34] <@smaug> hmm, longish class name
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1859. # [16:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d2e1286ec3ed - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 882925 - Fix ICUnaryArith_Double stub kind. r=h4writer
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1874. # [16:56] <KaiRo> hmm, lots of nsXPCWrappedJS::AddRef crashes in the last nightly builds
1875. # [16:57] <jcranmer> KaiRo: we crash if you touch that off the main thread now
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1908. # [17:10] <steve> hey guys - so we were discussing possible resurrection of GtkTestEmbed yesterday. Have looked at this some more & agree it's not the way forwards - it is unnecessarily complex. So am reworking winembed to its gtk equivalent as we discussed. got a basic shell compiling so far. one stupid problem - I link to libxpcomglue.a which results in an undefined reference to dlclose/dlopen/dlsym. I...
1909. # [17:10] <steve> ...have libdl in the path so wondering if anyone knows how to resolve that.
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1911. # [17:11] <steve> *in the command line
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1916. # [17:13] <steve> g++ -o ~/build/moz_d/dist/bin/GTK_Embed obj/Debug/profile/dirserviceprovider/src/nsProfileDirServiceProvider.o obj/Debug/WebBrowserChrome.o obj/Debug/WindowCreator.o obj/Debug/winEmbed.o -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lpthread ../../../../../build/moz_d/dist/
1917. # [17:13] <steve> lib/libmozglue.a ../../../../../build/moz_d/dist/lib/libxpcomglue.a
1918. # [17:14] <steve> ../../../../../build/moz_d/dist/lib/libxpcomglue.a(nsGlueLinkingDlopen.o): In function `ReadDependentCB':
1919. # [17:14] <steve> /home/steve/dev/mozilla/xpcom/glue/standalone/nsGlueLinkingDlopen.cpp:191: undefined reference to `dlopen'
1920. # [17:14] <steve> ... etc.
1921. # [17:14] <dholbert> whimboo, what b2g release are you running? (in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=878408#c11 )
1922. # [17:14] <whimboo> dholbert: i'm on 1.1
1923. # [17:15] <dholbert> whimboo, unagi?
1924. # [17:15] <@khuey|caltrain> steve: is -ldl on the command line anywhere?
1925. # [17:15] <RyanVM> dholbert: did you see my note last night about the state of Win64 build warnings?
1926. # [17:15] <dholbert> whimboo, update channel?
1927. # [17:15] <dholbert> RyanVM, I did, yeah. Sounds unfortunate. :-/
1928. # [17:15] <whimboo> dholbert: yes. on nightly
1929. # [17:15] <dholbert> whimboo, ah, ok. I'm not on nightly
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1931. # [17:15] <RyanVM> yeah, nearly an order of magnitude higher
1932. # [17:16] <whimboo> dholbert: you should switch ;)
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1935. # [17:16] <whimboo> beta takes so long to get updates
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1937. # [17:16] <KaiRo> jcranmer: interesting - looks like Firefox is fairly safe there, but Thunderbird, Firefox for Android, and B2G do that often enough to have topcrashers from it
1938. # [17:16] <dholbert> whimboo, meh, sounds like I'm gonna have to reflash to test that other bug, so maybe I will after that. :)
1939. # [17:17] <steve> sorry - it is now ... took it out for a test. current command line :
1940. # [17:17] <steve> g++ -o ~/build/moz_d/dist/bin/GTK_Embed obj/Debug/profile/dirserviceprovider/src/nsProfileDirServiceProvider.o obj/Debug/WebBrowserChrome.o obj/Debug/WindowCreator.o obj/Debug/winEmbed.o -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lpthread -ldl ../../../../../build/moz_d/
1941. # [17:17] <steve> dist/lib/libmozglue.a ../../../../../build/moz_d/dist/lib/libxpcomglue.a
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1943. # [17:17] <dholbert> whimboo, though I'm not dogfooding too hard right now, so infrequent updates sound a bit appealing :)
1944. # [17:17] <RyanVM> KaiRo: I thought the primary offenders for those were already on file
1945. # [17:17] <dholbert> [since they take a little while and force a reboot]
1946. # [17:17] <whimboo> dholbert: what works best for you ;)
1947. # [17:17] <whimboo> right. but the reboot is quiet fast
1948. # [17:17] <KaiRo> RyanVM: oh, they probably are, I just noticed that they are there
1949. # [17:18] <@khuey|caltrain> steve: well if libxpcomglue.a is going to use dlopen -ldl needs to come after it no?
1950. # [17:18] <RyanVM> KaiRo: at least it seems from the bugs on file that the causes are pretty easy to ferret out and fix
1951. # [17:18] <KaiRo> RyanVM: and I ran into the B2G one myself - we had just fixed camera crashing with something else, now it crashes with this
1952. # [17:18] <dholbert> whimboo, yeah, but it resets my position in the music app, and most of my unagi use is currently listening to music on it
1953. # [17:18] <dholbert> and podcasts
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1955. # [17:18] <whimboo> dholbert: annoying is that when the screen turns off, wifi gets disabled and we do not check for updates
1956. # [17:18] <steve> you're telling me. guess that could be the problem. thanks. will try that.
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1958. # [17:19] <whimboo> dholbert: k, i assume you have a bug filed
1959. # [17:19] <dholbert> whimboo, :) I think it's just a feature that's not supported
1960. # [17:19] <dholbert> whimboo, the music app doesn't save state across quit, basically
1961. # [17:19] <whimboo> dholbert: thats bad. you might want to raise an RFE
1962. # [17:20] <steve> khuey: as simple as that :) thank you very much. now to fill in the blanks to slot in gtk functionality ...
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1966. # [17:21] <@khuey|caltrain> steve: ld only looks forward in the command line to resolve symbols
1967. # [17:21] <@khuey|caltrain> steve: no idea who thought that was a good idea :-)
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1969. # [17:22] <dholbert> whimboo, I'm not sure it's bad
1970. # [17:22] <steve> thanks. 'tis what it is :)
1971. # [17:22] <dholbert> whimboo, it also could be an intentional privacy thing, maybe... not sure
1972. # [17:22] <dholbert> whimboo, filing a bug anyway, though
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1979. # [17:25] <whimboo> dholbert: it should be easy to keep the position for the title and resume it next time
1980. # [17:25] <dholbert> whimboo, I think the browser probably behaves the same way, BTW: reboot in the middle of a browsing session, your tabs are probably lost
1981. # [17:25] <dholbert> (right? I haven't tested, but I'm guessing)
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1984. # [17:25] <whimboo> dholbert: depends on if sessionstore has already saved the state
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1987. # [17:26] <whimboo> afair it does it each 10s or so?
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1994. # [17:31] <dholbert> whimboo, hmm, ok
1995. # [17:31] <dholbert> whimboo, bug filed (CC'd you)
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1997. # [17:33] <whimboo> dholbert: thanks
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2001. # [17:38] <dholbert> RyanVM, what was the context for the Win64 build-warnings stuff? Are we in the process of making win64 builds more supported or something?
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2003. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> Apparently
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2005. # [17:38] <RyanVM> dholbert: yes
2006. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> firebot, bug 880004
2007. # [17:38] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880004 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [tracking bug] Make Firefox 64-bit builds on Windows a tier1 platform
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2010. # [17:39] <dholbert> RyanVM, presumably we're building them without --enable-warnings-as-errors right now, then?
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2013. # [17:39] <RyanVM> must be
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2015. # [17:40] <RyanVM> 3300 type conversion warnings is potentially scary too
2016. # [17:40] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: is there a reason we need the XPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT define?
2017. # [17:40] <dholbert> RyanVM, is there a bug and/or TBPL run w/ sample build-failures?
2018. # [17:40] <dholbert> yeah
2019. # [17:40] <RyanVM> dholbert: sure, we do dep builds on m-c
2020. # [17:40] <RyanVM> just hidden by default
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2022. # [17:41] <RyanVM> dholbert: here's one off m-c tip - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24153954&tree=Mozilla-Central&full=1
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2024. # [17:41] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: well, kinda
2025. # [17:41] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: although it could probably just be #ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API
2026. # [17:42] <dholbert> what's the flag to use in the URL, to un-hide hidden builds again?
2027. # [17:42] <@bsmedberg> If ?noignore=1 I think
2028. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> showall
2029. # [17:42] <@bsmedberg> oh
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2031. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> noignore might still work
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2033. # [17:42] <RyanVM> it will
2034. # [17:42] <Ms2ger> Someone decided to rename it
2035. # [17:42] <RyanVM> it's just aliased to showall now
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2037. # [17:42] <dholbert> ah, nice
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2039. # [17:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96aa90a85d39 - Jim Mathies - Bug 882613 - Remove reference to nsIDocShellHistory in metro front end code bug 882079 missed. r=fyan
2040. # [17:43] <@bsmedberg> I have a weird JS issue. I have two strings which appear the same but str == str2 appears to be returning false
2041. # [17:43] <philor> that way you don't mind having your broken and ill-considered job hidden, err, I mean, unshown
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2045. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> bsmedberg, are they both strings?
2046. # [17:44] <@bsmedberg> they appear to be
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2048. # [17:44] <nalexander> bsmedberg: encoding issue?
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2050. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> nalexander: for JS strings?
2051. # [17:45] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: ok, ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API is good enough for me, but what is the purpose?
2052. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> check out http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2524126
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2055. # [17:45] <@bsmedberg> tbsaunde: if it's an XPCOM DLL we export the name "NSModule". If it's internal to libxul we have a different name and put them all together in the static module list in toolkit/library
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2057. # [17:46] <@bsmedberg> Ms2ger: I assumed that if they unevaled to the same thing they would be ==
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2059. # [17:47] <tbsaunde> bsmedberg: oh, yeah, not sure why I didn't realize that
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2061. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> Dunno what uneval does
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2063. # [17:47] <nalexander> Ms2ger: Yeah, I was googling that too.
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2065. # [17:47] <@bsmedberg> it's .toSource
2066. # [17:47] <@bsmedberg> by another name
2067. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> It's a Mozillaism, that much I know
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