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9. # [00:02] <@bz> RyanVM: still building, but almost done
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12. # [00:03] <RyanVM> bz: np
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17. # [00:05] <@bz> RyanVM: build done, can reproduce
18. # [00:05] * @bz tests fix
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20. # [00:06] <@gavin> RyanVM: right, just adds support for the chunking, releng config needs to be adjusted to actually use it
21. # [00:07] <RyanVM> gavin: that was what I thought, thanks
22. # [00:07] <RyanVM> is there a releng bug on file for it?
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27. # [00:08] <@gavin> RyanVM: don't recall
28. # [00:08] <@gavin> gtg
29. # [00:08] <RyanVM> ttyl
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31. # [00:08] <mwargers> smaug, ping?
32. # [00:09] <@smaug> mwargers: pong
33. # [00:10] <mwargers> smaug, I was looking at bug 861689 again, and this reminded me that I would like to know how focusing is working in the b2g world and how it is supposed to work
34. # [00:10] <mwargers> smaug, should the content process be able to grab focus when the focus is in chrome, for instance
35. # [00:10] <@smaug> mwargers: I'm not really familiar with b2g's focus handling
36. # [00:10] <@smaug> mwargers: I don't know
37. # [00:11] <mwargers> smaug, who should I ask? And should I perhaps file a bug about this? I think this could also need some documentation, perhaps
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40. # [00:12] <@smaug> mwargers: I'd start with jlebar and gwagner. They might know the right person
41. # [00:12] <jlebar> smaug: I can't bounce him back to you?
42. # [00:13] <jlebar> I don't really know what the right thing is either. :)
43. # [00:13] <mwargers> hah!
44. # [00:13] <RyanVM> bz: so we may have another orange on your push
45. # [00:13] <RyanVM> Android mochitest-3
46. # [00:13] <RyanVM> bz: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24249032&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
47. # [00:14] <@bz> RyanVM: Oh, because no webgl on android, of course
48. # [00:14] * @bz will fix
49. # [00:14] <mwargers> ok, I'll just file a new bug then, with some questions about how focus is supposed to work and CC you
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56. # [00:17] <@bz> RyanVM: ok, patch for both coming up
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59. # [00:18] <RyanVM> bz: nice
60. # [00:18] <RyanVM> what, what?
61. # [00:18] <RyanVM> wait*
62. # [00:18] * @bz waits
63. # [00:18] <@bz> wait for what?
64. # [00:18] <RyanVM> I didn't think webgl was disabled on android
65. # [00:19] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24249522&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
66. # [00:19] <RyanVM> we run the gl testsuite on it even
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72. # [00:20] <@bz> dunno
73. # [00:20] <@bz> I didn't think so either
74. # [00:20] <@bz> but getContext("webgl") returned null!
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76. # [00:21] <@bz> Maybe we need a separate bug on that....
77. # [00:21] <@bz> note that the gl testsuite bails out if no webgl
78. # [00:21] <@bz> and just treats it as pass
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80. # [00:21] <@bz> last I checked
81. # [00:21] <RyanVM> heh
82. # [00:21] <@bz> hrm
83. # [00:22] <@bz> 25489 INFO TEST-START | /tests/dom/bindings/test/test_sequence_wrapping.html
84. # [00:22] <@bz> 25490 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/bindings/test/test_sequence_wrapping.html | This test won't work right if we have no supported extensions
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86. # [00:22] <@bz> that test uses an in-document canvas with experimental-webgl
87. # [00:22] <@bz> wtf?
88. # [00:22] <@bz> But in any case, I need to deal with there not being webgl some places
89. # [00:22] <@bz> and file a bug on the webgl folks for the android thing
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91. # [00:23] <RyanVM> can you file and include a comment in the bustage fix?
92. # [00:23] <dzbarsky> bz: ooh, i know!
93. # [00:23] <dzbarsky> bz: we don't claim conformance on android because we don't pass the test suite
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99. # [00:24] <@bz> yeah, absolutely
100. # [00:24] <@bz> well, too late for the comment
101. # [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84b35dd1879d - Boris Zbarsky - Fix test fallout from bug 883358 so we can stop having a CLOSED TREE. No review.
102. # [00:24] <philor> unlike desktop platforms, where we claim conformance despite not passing the test suite?
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104. # [00:24] <@bz> But I'll file later tonight
105. # [00:25] <@bz> with some data from my android build
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110. # [00:25] <RyanVM> bz: thanks :)
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119. # [00:28] <@bz> RyanVM: ok, going to go play with the kids for a few hours before they have to go to bed. ;)
120. # [00:28] <RyanVM> sounds good, ttyl
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125. # [00:32] <karolyi> can anyone help me to create a valid cert_override.txt record? it seems that the last parameter at the end of the lines is a really hard to guess one
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131. # [00:36] <guestish> is it expected that pc has become laggy when compiling pgo firefox on linux?
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136. # [00:38] <guestish> i have never compiled pgo firefox before so i would like to know what i would encounter.
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141. # [00:39] <philor> oh, look, Android 4.0 robocop-2 bustage, that'll be fun
142. # [00:39] <philor> what with the whole thing where it takes 6-8 runs per push to manage to actually run every test without crashing
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144. # [00:41] * philor plays the retrigger odds
145. # [00:41] <guestish> it become laggy after an hour i guess, hdd was doing its job and fan get silent, i couldn't even move mouse it was too laggy. i waited for an hour and after that restarted pc
146. # [00:42] <guestish> anyone here compile firefox on linux? i have simple questions, don't ignore please
147. # [00:43] <philor> guestish: if every single person idling here all said "even though I build on linux, I have never once built PGO on linux" it wouldn't surprise me in the least
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149. # [00:43] <darktrojan> this ^
150. # [00:44] <guestish> philor, so you people don't pgo?
151. # [00:44] <guestish> wow
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154. # [00:45] <nalexander> philor: that Android 4.0 rc2 orange looks intermittent to me. It's just a paint event never happening. For any of the bazillion reasons that doesn't happen :(
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156. # [00:45] <nalexander> philor: give it a few more chances in the coming pushes.
157. # [00:46] <nalexander> philor: I retract, I see it again in the logs.
158. # [00:46] <darktrojan> guestish, why would we? we build to fix things, not for performance
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160. # [00:46] <darktrojan> that's what we have a build farm for
161. # [00:46] <guestish> darktrojan, i see. who should i ask my questions?
162. # [00:47] <darktrojan> I don't know
163. # [00:47] <guestish> i am gonna ask to #introduction
164. # [00:47] <darktrojan> like I said, never done it
165. # [00:48] <till> roc: ping
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167. # [00:48] <dholbert> guestish, I'd suggest asking in #build, if you're wanting to ask about pgo
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169. # [00:49] <dholbert> and/or asking froydnj, since it sounded like he knew what he was talking about
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171. # [00:49] <guestish> dholbert, oh ok thanks
172. # [00:49] <philor> nalexander: one of the fun things about the retries is that RETRY trumps FAILED, so it could have been happening 75% of the time for several days now, without ever managing to hit on one that didn't retry
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178. # [00:53] <philor> "to fix things"?
179. # [00:53] <philor> oh, you mean things like bustage?
180. # [00:56] <nalexander> philor: did you retrigger those Android 4.0 rc2's? Like 20 of them?
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182. # [00:56] <philor> nalexander: yep, I *like* retriggers
183. # [00:57] <nalexander> philor: ta.
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185. # [00:57] <philor> also? we bought something like 800 pandas, because they were going to be the future of everything and run b2g tests and deliver coffee, might as well use some of them
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188. # [01:00] <@roc> 800 pandas? that's like half the world population
189. # [01:01] <philor> lots of them don't do anything visible most of the time, maybe they're breeding
190. # [01:01] * froydnj can't wait to have a panda deliver coffee to his door
191. # [01:01] <guestish> froydnj, are you there dude :D
192. # [01:01] <froydnj> philor: thanks for releasing my robocop death grip on the android slaves over the weekend
193. # [01:01] <froydnj> guestish: not for very long
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195. # [01:03] <guestish> froydnj, man i was building pgo firefox on linux
196. # [01:03] <guestish> it has lagged after a while
197. # [01:04] <guestish> when generating or doing something with pgo. it is related something with pgo
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199. # [01:04] <froydnj> guestish: how much RAM do you have?
200. # [01:04] <guestish> i waited for an our. the hhd was doing hard job cpu reduced et...
201. # [01:04] <guestish> froydnj, 6 gigs
202. # [01:05] <froydnj> guestish: that may or may not be enough RAM, depending
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204. # [01:05] <till> jrmuizel: ping
205. # [01:05] <froydnj> the hard drive work that you were seeing was probably because you were hitting swap. a lot.
206. # [01:05] <guestish> froydnj, i didn't set swap!
207. # [01:05] <till> Also, do y'all know how many people's nicks here start with "j"?
208. # [01:05] <froydnj> till: I bet you can tell us!
209. # [01:06] <till> seriously, this is getting out of control!
210. # [01:06] <till> froydnj: yes, but I won't
211. # [01:06] <froydnj> :(
212. # [01:06] <guestish> froydnj, so i should set swap partition first?
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217. # [01:06] <philor> till: I just pick one of them at random, start talking about something, and if they say "that's nothing to do with me" I tell 'em to figure out which j it is and tell that one
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219. # [01:07] <jhammel> 37
220. # [01:07] <till> philor: well, but you can always just threaten to back them out if they're not helpful ...
221. # [01:07] * jhammel counts on developers having better things to do
222. # [01:07] <froydnj> guestish: if you're prepared to wait a lot time for the job to finish, sure
223. # [01:07] <froydnj> *long time, even
224. # [01:08] * till approves of jhammel at least owning up
225. # [01:08] <guestish> froydnj, i used -j4. it may be related with it?
226. # [01:08] * froydnj counts his lucky stars somebody else did that for him
227. # [01:08] <froydnj> guestish: probably not
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229. # [01:08] <jhammel> froydnj++
230. # [01:08] <guestish> froydnj, one more question. how long does it take pgo building?
231. # [01:09] <guestish> approx.
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233. # [01:10] <guestish> froydnj, i have one more question please wait a sec
234. # [01:10] <froydnj> guestish: it takes ~3 hours on our build infrastructure
235. # [01:11] <guestish> froydnj, wait a sec i will post my mozconfig
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241. # [01:13] <guestish> froydnj, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2536065
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243. # [01:14] <guestish> what do you say about that mozconfig. is it ok
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246. # [01:14] * froydnj is getting tired of the lag in osx when switching virtual desktops
247. # [01:14] <jlebar> bz: smaug: Do you think anyone cares about the nsDocShellLeak log module?
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250. # [01:16] <guestish> froydnj, check my mozconfig please
251. # [01:16] <IanN> is it just me or is bugzilla running slowly at the moment?
252. # [01:16] <froydnj> guestish: I think it's missing a few things
253. # [01:17] <guestish> froydnj, could you tell me please if you bother
254. # [01:17] <RyanVM> philor: I'm going ot backout the robocop failure
255. # [01:17] <froydnj> guestish: you need a |mk_add_options MOZ_PGO=1| somewhere
256. # [01:18] <jrmuizel> till: pong
257. # [01:18] <till> jrmuizel: ah, I was just about to needinfo you
258. # [01:18] <till> jrmuizel: bug 883580 turns out to be a Canvas issue
259. # [01:18] <guestish> froydnj, oh sorry i added "mk_add_options PROFILE_GEN_SCRIPT='$(MAKE) -C $(MOZ_OBJDIR) pgo-profile-run'"
260. # [01:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8bcccaf54ff1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset ec7bccd33fc0 (bug 846340) for frequent failures.
261. # [01:19] <froydnj> mmm, look at all that orange
262. # [01:19] <guestish> i forgot to paste it
263. # [01:19] <till> jrmuizel: on OS X, it only reproduces when activating azure acceleration
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267. # [01:20] <till> jrmuizel: sadly, it's non-reduced, private content, but if you're interested I could pm the url
268. # [01:20] <guestish> froydnj, thanks a lot
269. # [01:20] <guestish> need to go
270. # [01:20] <jrmuizel> till: toImageData() is slow on accelerated canvas
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272. # [01:20] <@ehsan> bz: RyanVM: can we reopen?
273. # [01:20] <till> jrmuizel: ah, that makes sense
274. # [01:20] <jrmuizel> till: there's not much that can easily be done about that
275. # [01:20] <RyanVM> ehsan: soonish
276. # [01:21] <philor> RyanVM: you don't think my retriggers will quickly and clearly finger a culprit and vindicate the innocent?
277. # [01:21] <RyanVM> philor: I think the culprit was pretty obvious :P
278. # [01:21] <philor> I'm only up to five retries
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281. # [01:21] <jrmuizel> till: the only real solution we've been throwing around is giving authors a way to specify that they want a software canvas
282. # [01:21] <till> jrmuizel: we do the rendering on the gpu and have to transfer the result back to main memory?
283. # [01:21] <RyanVM> helps that I make mental notes of every time I land a checkin-needed robocop patch though
284. # [01:21] <jrmuizel> till: correct
285. # [01:21] <till> jrmuizel: ok, makes sense
286. # [01:22] <till> jrmuizel: ooc, how does Chrome make that fast?
287. # [01:22] <philor> RyanVM: on a suite which we actually run, I'd agree, but for that suite, which runs six or eight times per push, fails five or seven times per push, and reports the failure zero or one time per push, I was less sure
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289. # [01:22] <jrmuizel> till: were you using accelerated canvas in chrome?
290. # [01:22] <@ehsan> treestatus: mozilla-inbound
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292. # [01:23] <RyanVM> philor: fair :)
293. # [01:23] <till> jrmuizel: mmh, now that you ask: probably not
294. # [01:23] <@smaug> jlebar: I doubt
295. # [01:23] <philor> RyanVM: and, um, is the one you're backing out of one of the four on the push before the first push which shows it orange?
296. # [01:23] <till> jrmuizel: anyway, is there a bug I could make that one depend on?
297. # [01:23] <philor> since the first blue there shows the same failure
298. # [01:24] <jrmuizel> till: not that I know of
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301. # [01:24] <philor> first two blues
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304. # [01:24] <RyanVM> philor: the one I backed out would certainly agree, no?
305. # [01:25] <RyanVM> philor: bug 846340 in that push specifically touched that test
306. # [01:25] <till> jrmuizel: ok for me to open one, just so we have a place where the abovementioned discussions could be publicized?
307. # [01:25] <jrmuizel> till: certainly
308. # [01:26] <till> jrmuizel: ok. Will do that tomorrow, as it's getting kinda late here
309. # [01:26] <till> jrmuizel: thanks for the info
310. # [01:26] <philor> ah, didn't notice you already had, I'm miles down below the tip
311. # [01:27] <jlebar> smaug: thanks.
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316. # [01:29] <RyanVM> philor: whew, you had me worried there :)
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326. # [01:37] <RyanVM> philor: what's with the canceled jobs?
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328. # [01:37] <philor> RyanVM: the very thing I was just wondering
329. # [01:38] <RyanVM> says you did it!
330. # [01:38] <philor> since what I cancelled was robocop-2, twenty pushes below there
331. # [01:38] <RyanVM> haha
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334. # [01:39] <philor> if we coalesce android robocop-2 into ubuntu-*... that would explain a lot about us, really
335. # [01:39] <RyanVM> heh
336. # [01:39] <RyanVM> looks like android m3 is sitll orange
337. # [01:39] <RyanVM> bz ^
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346. # [01:41] <heycam> can someone help me interpret the reds on my esr17 push?
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348. # [01:42] <RyanVM> heycam: good questions
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350. # [01:42] <philor> ALL THE THINGS
351. # [01:42] * dholbert suspects glandium might be able to
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353. # [01:43] <dholbert> it's an issue with elfhack, which says "glandium"
354. # [01:43] <dholbert> to me
355. # [01:43] <heycam> yeah
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357. # [01:44] <philor> it's an issue between two pushes that shouldn't have been a code issue, which says reconfig to me
358. # [01:44] <dholbert> yeah
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360. # [01:44] <RyanVM> hm, bug 883867 looks mighty suspicious
361. # [01:44] <dholbert> surprise, elfhack now depends on nsSVGFilters.cpp
362. # [01:44] <philor> given that a certain someone who shall remain named bhearsum closed the shut down esr17 bug this morning because "it's long dead now" :)
363. # [01:44] <dholbert> (kidding, kidding)
364. # [01:45] <dholbert> lol
365. # [01:45] <philor> does https://bug883867.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=763581 look likely?
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367. # [01:46] * RyanVM closes esr17
368. # [01:46] <philor> "long outdated" certainly sounds exactly like "affects esr17" to me
369. # [01:46] <Callek> ?
370. # [01:46] <heycam> RyanVM, philor, that patch does sound like it
371. # [01:46] <heycam> the red build used gcc 4.5
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373. # [01:47] <philor> Callek: oh, hello!
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376. # [01:48] <RyanVM> philor: I'm going to backout bz and then I think we're good to reopen
377. # [01:49] <Callek> philor: RyanVM is there a releng need here, or is it intree bustage?
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379. # [01:50] <RyanVM> Callek: yes, see #releng
380. # [01:50] <RyanVM> aki's on it
381. # [01:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04b177645a6b - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 883358) for Android mochitest-3 failures on a CLOSED TREE.
382. # [01:51] <@bz> RyanVM: :(
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385. # [01:51] <@bz> RyanVM: I have no idea wtf is going on on Android there...
386. # [01:51] <RyanVM> why do they always show up right after I push the backout?
387. # [01:52] <@bz> RyanVM: I guess I get to have the fun of trying to reproduce the fact that it fucking "sometimes" fails to create a WebGL context...
388. # [01:52] <@bz> RyanVM: no, backing out is the right thing
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390. # [01:52] <@bz> RyanVM: Because I have no idae what the goddamned hell is going on with Android
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392. # [01:52] * @bz goes back to feeding kids ice cream instead
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394. # [01:52] <RyanVM> bz_away: good plan!
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397. # [01:53] <Waldo> jlebar: so syscall() is dead to us because it has to trust registers and stuff to get the actual entry point in the libc possibly dynamically linked against by the binary, right?
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401. # [01:55] <Waldo> jlebar: er, oh, you're just printing only in debug builds, and opt builds will still just crash and not print anything, ergo safely
402. # [01:56] <firebot> Check-in:
403. # [01:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/baf0c2c1a3e2 - Tim Abraldes - bug 837293. Don't send keyPress events for characters that were pressed at the same time as the altGr button. When our CharacterReceived handler fires, don't send
404. # [01:56] <firebot> modifier key information if it includes the altGr button. r=bbondy
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406. # [01:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14503e9ec043 - Tim Abraldes - bug 879382. Remove support for windowless plugin input from metro widget. r=jimm
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408. # [01:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b529e6b746f8 - Jonathan Griffin - bug 873542 - Remove ENABLE_MARIONETTE from debug FF configs, r=dburns
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411. # [01:59] <froydnj> Waldo: that's my understanding
412. # [02:00] <jlebar> Waldo: syscall() has to trust the GOT, principally.
413. # [02:01] * philor decides against offering bz the comfort that b2g is also busted
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416. # [02:02] <Waldo> okay, that's what I was gleaning
417. # [02:02] <Waldo> the "er, oh" is probably the important part to the both of us, tho :-)
418. # [02:02] <Waldo> saying debug builds are theoretically exploitable is totally not unreasonable
419. # [02:02] * Waldo returns to patch-reading
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421. # [02:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97e842bc8760 - Chris Peterson - Bug 827407 - Back out Flash fullscreen video bug 809055 to test whether FlashPaintSurface crashes are correlated. r=snorp
422. # [02:05] <@dbaron> philor, "comfort"
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424. # [02:05] <Waldo> a dish philor serves best cold
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428. # [02:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20ef0590dd57 - Terrence Cole - Bug 883466 - Fix build failure in GGC caused by jsobjinlines.h reorganization; r=njn
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431. # [02:08] * Waldo wonders what http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/tools/profiler/UnwinderThread2.cpp#1645 is trying to accomplish
432. # [02:08] <reuben> duh, crash, then return null twice, obviously
433. # [02:09] <Waldo> maybe it makes sense as a continuation of another algorithm
434. # [02:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5854baf067d - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 884004: DexClassLoader should use context's class loader. [r=kats]
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439. # [02:13] <Waldo> boooo, looks like there may be too few functional-language programmers to make a proper FP pun :-(
440. # [02:14] <froydnj> are we too pure for you, Waldo?
441. # [02:14] <Waldo> probably :-(
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487. # [02:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f53918bafe2a - Nathan Froyd - Bug 884022 - fix clang warnings about pointer-to-int comparisons in test_AsXXX_helpers.cpp; r=dholbert
488. # [02:43] <froydnj> argh
489. # [02:43] * reuben hands a shift key to froydnj
490. # [02:44] <froydnj> meant to push three patches there :(
491. # [02:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78ecf4488be0 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 883983 - let the httpd server choose its port in reftests; r=ted
492. # [02:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c660bb960b57 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 883981 - correctly reflect the server's port in httpd.js; r=ted
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498. # [02:47] <reuben> froydnj: do you actually need the (const char*) cast there?
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502. # [02:49] <froydnj> reuben: you do for old libstc++, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787730
503. # [02:50] <reuben> hm
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567. # [03:35] <philor> BenWa: why do you hate Android so?
568. # [03:35] <@khuey> who doesn't hate android?
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570. # [03:35] <philor> there is that
571. # [03:36] * @bz wonders whether he should do a full try run on this stuff this time..
572. # [03:36] <@bz> I guess I should
573. # [03:36] <glandium> khuey: i don't
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579. # [03:40] <philor> BENWA!
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587. # [03:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ebc9b2b98ad7 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 090ebbb90a7f (bug 873914) for Android build bustage
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592. # [03:44] <glandium> RyanVM: do you usually land stuff on esr17?
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594. # [03:45] <BenWa> philor: Argg, it was green on try. Darn it!
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597. # [03:45] <philor> BenWa: ah, perhaps yet another android-needs-clobber-when-it-shouldn't thing, thing
598. # [03:45] <philor> then
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600. # [03:46] <BenWa> philor: let me look. Could just be that I tested on top of an old m-c
601. # [03:46] <BenWa> Honestly we should finish auto-land. This stuff is a waste of time
602. # [03:46] <philor> hmm, but I haven't backed out the first thing that landed after a closure, better look for more bustage
603. # [03:46] <ekr> BenWa: by auto-land you mean like Chromium commit-bot?
604. # [03:46] <philor> by "finish" I presume you mean "start"?
605. # [03:46] <BenWa> philor: It was started and what somewhat working
606. # [03:47] <glandium> BenWa: autoland wouldn't have made your push any less broken
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608. # [03:47] <glandium> we're not going to clobber on every push
609. # [03:47] <philor> BenWa: oh, the thing that only pushed to try, sometimes, not often, and had no idea how to push anywhere else, no idea how to deal with conflicts, and never actually worked?
610. # [03:47] <BenWa> glandium: It's true but it would of push to try with a recent m-c tip and found this error. I don't think my problem is a clobber issue
611. # [03:47] <philor> yeah, "start"
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613. # [03:48] <BenWa> glandium: My push is fine. it just conflicted with a change that landed earlier
614. # [03:49] * philor has some *really* good rants about dreams of an autoland that can solve that problem
615. # [03:50] <ekr> glandium: how expensive would it really be to clobber with every push. I figure a clobber build takes about an hour of machine time and each m-i push needs esomething like 20 builds? So, if we have ~5 commits an hour, that's like 100 machines?
616. # [03:50] <philor> non-clobber Win opt is 100 minutes, and that's non-PGO
617. # [03:51] <philor> plus dropping dep builds means dropping them for local builds, too
618. # [03:51] <ekr> philor: hmm… so windows is the problem here, I guess.
619. # [03:51] <philor> so we would have to send out machines faster than any that exist to anyone who wanted to build Firefox
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621. # [03:51] <ekr> why would it mean dropping them for local builds?
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623. # [03:51] <ekr> is your concern that we wouldn't be verifying them?
624. # [03:52] <glandium> ekr: anything that's not on tbpl ends up being broken very quickly
625. # [03:52] <philor> no, I'm absolutely certain that we would break them, within hours
626. # [03:52] <philor> and actually, Mac opt is over 100 minutes non-clobber
627. # [03:52] <glandium> philor: you mean clobber, right?
628. # [03:52] <philor> since it's fairly pointlessly still two two two builds in one
629. # [03:52] <ekr> glandium, philor: sure, but that's not hard to fix. make a copy of the directory and do both clobber and incremental
630. # [03:53] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24259405&tree=Mozilla-Inbound 105 minutes, doesn't admit to being a clobber
631. # [03:53] <glandium> ekr: we already have plenty of cases where incremental doesn't work, and it's usually more involved than that
632. # [03:53] <philor> not that not admitting means it isn't, sadly
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634. # [03:53] <ekr> glandium: I'm not following what you mean by "more involved than that"
635. # [03:54] <glandium> ekr: more involved than doing a clobber and an incremental
636. # [03:54] <glandium> it's more like do a clobber, touch some file (after finding out which one triggered the problem) and do an incremental
637. # [03:55] <ekr> glandium: I really don't understand what you're saying here. We already do incrementals. I'm just suggesting adding a second set of machines which do clobbers
638. # [03:55] <glandium> what for?
639. # [03:55] <ekr> well, for starters, so you can auto-detect when clobbers are needed
640. # [03:56] <glandium> you'll autodetect it well after a human will have
641. # [03:56] <ekr> But more generally, someone (I think you) said above that it was prohibitive. I'm trying to do the math on whether it's really true
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643. # [03:58] <ekr> WRT the specific question of mac opt. I wonder if that's primarily because of slow machines. I'm running a build now, but I don't remember it being that slow on my iMac
644. # [03:58] <glandium> ekr: our mac builds are actually two builds
645. # [03:59] <ekr> glandium: you mean the ones on the servers as opposed to the local ones?
646. # [03:59] <glandium> yes
647. # [03:59] <ekr> Do I want to know why?
648. # [03:59] <glandium> local ones are single-architecture
649. # [03:59] <glandium> on the buildbots, they are universal builds, so, two single-architecture builds and an additional step consolidating both
650. # [04:00] <ekr> ah
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652. # [04:00] <glandium> also, builbots like to spend 10~20 minutes on preparation steps (hg cloning, etc.)
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654. # [04:00] <glandium> (yeah, it's ridiculous)
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656. # [04:01] <ekr> glandium: all I can compare against is my own buildbots, but a typical non-clobber build for me is like 5-10 min
657. # [04:01] <ekr> Of course, tht's linux
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667. # [04:12] <philor> oh, look, a merge to m-c
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680. # [04:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bf28d2bed42 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 849399. Change reftest 598726-1 to only transition on transform; r=dbaron
681. # [04:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed83ea296382 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 849399. Adjust test timeouts to account for newly correct behaviour in nsTransitionManager.cpp. r=dbaron
682. # [04:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1598fe77701f - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 849399. Invalidate existing style rule if we start a transition. r=dbaron
683. # [04:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/928202d898e7 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 883687; fix typo in 'Found unexpected crash dump' message . r=heycam
684. # [04:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4967e7c6da7 - Dan Gohman - Bug 883574 - Add const qualifiers to variables and pointers in the JS tree. r=evilpies
685. # [04:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ebce5e16ea6 - Dan Gohman - Bug 883569 - X86 assembly spew fixes r=sstangl
686. # [04:22] <njn> huh? /tools/gcc-4.7.2-0moz1/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.2/../../../../include/c++/4.7.2/bits/cpp_type_traits.h:238:27: error: '__type' does not name a type
687. # [04:22] <njn> that's from https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24258394&tree=Try#error0
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689. # [04:22] <njn> anyone know what causes that? is it my fault? I only modified JS engine files...
690. # [04:23] <njn> it's only on Fedora64 debug
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724. # [04:58] <philor> oh boy, android reftest bustage that landed while android builds were busted
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730. # [05:09] <@bz> hrm
731. # [05:09] <@bz> is etherpad down?
732. # [05:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e674c399e3e - Ehsan Akhgari - Follow-up to bug 674927 part 1: Mark the failing reftests as passing on Android since spell checking is completely disabled there
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734. # [05:11] <ehsan_> philor: fix pushed: ^
735. # [05:11] <Callek> bz: yes it is
736. # [05:11] <Callek> bz: IT is looking into it
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738. # [05:12] <philor> ehsan_: well played, ducking the temptation of skip-if(Android) that has pulled so many many in ;)
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747. # [05:18] <@bz> "started 19:31, still running... ETA unknown"
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749. # [05:18] * @bz wonders how long these usually take...
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762. # [05:29] <@bz> review requests are like roaches
763. # [05:29] <@bz> you can kill off a bunch and prune them back
764. # [05:29] <@bz> but they keep coming back....
765. # [05:29] <@khuey> better nuke your review queue from orbit
766. # [05:30] <@khuey> it's the only way to be sure
767. # [05:30] <@bz> I'm close
768. # [05:31] * @bz glares at Contacts API
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771. # [05:34] * @khuey grumbles about having to address review comments
772. # [05:34] <@bz> heh
773. # [05:34] <@bz> I should hook you up with alexsavulov
774. # [05:35] <@khuey> will he address review comments and land my patches for me?
775. # [05:35] <@bz> no, but he'll give you r=alexsavulov with no comments no matter what
776. # [05:35] * @bz wonders who these people are saying they can do a layout work week the week of the summit
777. # [05:36] <@khuey> people who don't know when the summit is presumably
778. # [05:36] <@bz> Could be
779. # [05:36] <@bz> Oct 4-6, right?
780. # [05:36] <@khuey> yep
781. # [05:36] <@bz> Ah, I guess that's a weekend
782. # [05:36] <@bz> So they could be figuring the work week could end early or something
783. # [05:37] <@khuey> and that they can teleport to the summit location
784. # [05:37] <@bz> details
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797. # [05:44] <reuben> bz: sorry :P
798. # [05:44] * @bz foresees a lot of October travel. :(
799. # [05:44] <@bz> reuben: you're the only thing in my queue. ;)
800. # [05:44] <@bz> reuben: and staying there till tomorrow
801. # [05:44] <reuben> good!
802. # [05:44] <@bz> reuben: which is a lot like playing Russian Roulette
803. # [05:44] <@bz> reuben: but that's life.
804. # [05:45] <darktrojan> or death
805. # [05:45] <@bz> nah, definitely life
806. # [05:45] <darktrojan> 1/6
807. # [05:45] <reuben> what about bug 810399?
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809. # [05:45] <@bz> reuben: waiting on an answer to the question I just asked
810. # [05:45] <@bz> reuben: so temporarily Not My Problem
811. # [05:46] <reuben> I think that's the last one for contacts btw
812. # [05:46] <reuben> I can't believe I'm looking forward to filing follow ups
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845. # [06:20] <capella> philor no lyke Android? :p
846. # [06:21] * @bz gives up on webgl on b2g, just tries to not use webgl in his test
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852. # [06:25] <@bz> hmm
853. # [06:25] <@bz> I assume no ETA on the tree opening, right?
854. # [06:26] <philor> "when Callek gets done manually rebooting every 10.7 slave" so no, not really
855. # [06:30] <@bz> ok
856. # [06:30] <Callek> hopefully very soon
857. # [06:30] * bz is now known as bz_sleep
858. # [06:30] <@bz_sleep> It's bedtime anyway. ;)
859. # [06:30] <Callek> I just threw this in a for loop, that I _think_ is working
860. # [06:30] <Callek> unless sudo is silently failing
861. # [06:30] <Callek> specifically http://callek.pastebin.mozilla.org/2536680
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868. # [06:41] <fossterer> Hi ! What does EMBED_OR_IMG mean in 'parser' of mozilla codebase?
869. # [06:45] <@khuey> I'm going to guess it means you have an <embed> tag or an <img> tag
870. # [06:47] * kripton is now known as Kripton
871. # [06:47] <fossterer> It's been broken down to EMBED and IMG in today's commits.. why is this change ?
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873. # [06:48] <capella> identify the bug responsible and read the background?
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876. # [06:55] <@bz_sleep> fossterer: the change is because before they could be treated identically and now they can't be
877. # [06:55] <@bz_sleep> fossterer: because they have different behavior wrt parsing
878. # [06:55] <fossterer> bz_sleep: thanks but why 'now they can't be'?
879. # [06:55] <fossterer> I'm reading the logbot conversation
880. # [06:56] <fossterer> but unable to figure out
881. # [06:56] <@bz_sleep> fossterer: because <img> needs to be form-associated and <embed> does not
882. # [06:56] <@bz_sleep> I mean... the checkin comment says so!
883. # [06:57] <@bz_sleep> "Bug 870787 HTML parser part - Make <img> a form-associated element in the HTML parser."
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885. # [06:59] <fossterer> bz_sleep: Why should <img> be form-associated. We have images unrelated to forms too.. Isn't it?
886. # [06:59] <@bz_sleep> The "why" is presumably "because netscape 3 did it, or something, and now websites depend on it"
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888. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> See http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/forms.html#dom-form-nameditem
889. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> The part about "img elements"
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891. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> but also note https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22382
892. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> But this is all hashed out in detail in the bug, no?
893. # [07:01] <fossterer> bz_sleep: Not sure what to ask further but this commit seems to offer something which I can understand.. How can I help myself?
894. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> I'm not sure what you're asking
895. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> Did you read https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=870787 ?
896. # [07:01] <fossterer> bz_sleep: yes
897. # [07:01] <@bz_sleep> In particular the testcase in comemnt 6 and the comments about it in comment 9?
898. # [07:02] <@bz_sleep> That testcase is why the parser needs to do special form-related stuff for <img>
899. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> Because that <img> is not a descendant of the form
900. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> But needs to show up as its .img4 property.
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902. # [07:04] <philor> bz_sleep: reopened
903. # [07:05] <@bz_sleep> ooh
904. # [07:06] * @bz_sleep checks in stuff and really goes to sleep. ;)
905. # [07:07] <@bz_sleep> fossterer: Does that help?
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907. # [07:08] <fossterer> bz_sleep: I'm still reading them
908. # [07:08] <firebot> Check-in:
909. # [07:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cec8b5a9ac2 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 883358 part 1. When creating getter/setter functions for the JSPROP_NATIVE_ACCESSORS case in JS_DefineProperties/JS_DefineProperty, give them the name of the
910. # [07:08] <firebot> property. r=till
911. # [07:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfc3d2853ee3 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 883358 part 2. Use the new information in bindings error reporting. r=smaug
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913. # [07:09] <@bz_sleep> fossterer: ok
914. # [07:09] <@bz_sleep> fossterer: I'm about to sleep for real, so if you have any questions, ask now...
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917. # [07:10] <fossterer> bz_sleep: Can I test something for myself such as.. 'what changes does it make'..?
918. # [07:10] <@bz_sleep> What do you mean?
919. # [07:10] <@bz_sleep> The idea of the parser change is to track that the image is associated with the form
920. # [07:10] <@bz_sleep> and to tell the image about what form it's associated with
921. # [07:10] <@bz_sleep> The image then tells that form about itself.
922. # [07:11] <@bz_sleep> So that the named getter on the form works.
923. # [07:11] <@bz_sleep> (The form has some hashtables mapping names to things)
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926. # [07:15] <fossterer> bz_sleep: I'll go thru those comments and see if I can understand them
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928. # [07:17] <fossterer> Thanks for the responses.. Gd n8
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940. # [07:31] <JonathanS> Google enabled VP9 in Chrome.
941. # [07:32] <mjrosenb> JonathanS: what is vp9?
942. # [07:32] <mjrosenb> ahh
943. # [07:33] <mjrosenb> video compression
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948. # [07:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4bbca87e3009 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 634839 (part 2) - Remove more unnecessary #includes from SpiderMonkey. r=jorendorff.
949. # [07:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/bc4c43776396 - Chris Peterson - Bug 883501 - Fix -Wreorder warning in xpcom/base/nsConsoleMessage.cpp. r=msucan
950. # [07:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1b201503737b - Chris Peterson - Bug 883729 - Fix -Wnull-conversion warnings in xpcom. r=bsmedberg
951. # [07:38] <JonathanS> mjrosenb, Google may put VP9 in Youtube.
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953. # [07:39] <mjrosenb> JonathanS: didn't they say that many years ago?
954. # [07:39] <mjrosenb> then just didn't
955. # [07:39] <JonathanS> mjrosenb, no, they didn't. that was for webm?
956. # [07:40] <JonathanS> i thought webm is VP8?
957. # [07:40] <mjrosenb> ahh.
958. # [07:40] <mjrosenb> I was thrown off by the similar names.
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960. # [07:41] <mjrosenb> although the other name for h.264 is horribly confusing.
961. # [07:41] <JonathanS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP9 contained by Webm and Matroska
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967. # [07:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3dca4337889f - Chris Peterson - Back out changeset 1b201503737b (Bug 883729) for landing on wrong branch
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969. # [07:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4e5983de6e3b - Chris Peterson - Back out changeset bc4c43776396 (Bug 883501) for landing on wrong branch
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979. # [08:00] <dougt> if a Firefox user is logged into Google and visits the default Firefox home page, they are served ads for Chrome? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8727858/Screen%20Shot%202013-06-17%20at%2010.57.50%20PM.png
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981. # [08:00] <dougt> wtf?
982. # [08:00] <dougt> i thought those snippets were ours?
983. # [08:00] <dougt> this is ff21.0
984. # [08:01] <dougt> oh.. hmm.
985. # [08:01] <heycam> dougt, that's not the default firefox home page/
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987. # [08:01] <dougt> yeah, i guess it isn't. :(
988. # [08:01] <dougt> different color background.
989. # [08:01] <heycam> among other things :)
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991. # [08:01] <mjrosenb> dougt: also, I don't see any ads for chrome in that .png
992. # [08:02] <dougt> that link is.
993. # [08:02] <sancus> isn't that just google.com, lol
994. # [08:02] <dougt> basically try this awesome game… but install chrome first.
995. # [08:02] <mjrosenb> dougt: oic.
996. # [08:02] <dougt> well, with that… time to turn in. ;p
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998. # [08:02] <dougt> zzz
999. # [08:02] <mjrosenb> I was expecting a "browse the web better with chrome" link
1000. # [08:02] <glob> heh
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1002. # [08:04] <glob> since it came up while i was asleep, bug 883018 is tracking the bmo slowness
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1008. # [08:06] <JonathanS> mjrosenb in https://www.google.com/, I see that button
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1011. # [08:07] <JonathanS> I see "A faster way to browse the web"
1012. # [08:07] <glob> i see an advert for cube slam... which appears to be pong
1013. # [08:08] <JonathanS> glob, at least, atari breakout still works or is it?
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1017. # [08:11] <markh> sheesh, given the promo resources google has, we are doing a damn fine job to still be here at all!
1018. # [08:11] <markh> let alone continuing to be awesome :)
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1034. # [08:28] <njn> mmm, purple
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1113. # [09:32] <jfkthame> jandem: i suspect your inbound push may have needed a clobber
1114. # [09:33] <jandem> jfkthame: yeah i was just looking at it
1115. # [09:33] <jandem> ok if i clobber all inbound builds?
1116. # [09:34] <jfkthame> i'm not sure what the best procedure is...
1117. # [09:34] <jfkthame> any sheriff in the house?
1118. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> Push a change to ./CLOBBER
1119. # [09:35] <jandem> thanks
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1122. # [09:37] <jandem> Ms2ger: should i use DONTBUILD? i see ryanvm used that
1123. # [09:38] <Ms2ger> Then you also have to clobber manually
1124. # [09:38] <Ms2ger> Actually, I guess that's not true
1125. # [09:38] <Ms2ger> But you still want to get test coverage, so no DONTBUILD, please
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1128. # [09:39] <jandem> ok
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1130. # [09:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c86d40e96c89 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 704356 - Touch CLOBBER for jspropertycache.cpp removal.
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1142. # [09:55] <Six> hi
1143. # [09:56] <Six> is there a way to launch all tests in one command with mach?
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1145. # [09:56] <Six> instead of launching reftest then xpcshell then mochitest and so on...
1146. # [09:57] <jfkthame> i don't think so
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1148. # [09:58] <Six> ok
1149. # [09:58] <jfkthame> it'd be pretty unusual to have a patch where you'd really need to run -all- tests
1150. # [09:58] <jfkthame> (and it'd take an awfully long time!)
1151. # [09:58] <Six> yup i agree but to be sure it has no side effect it could be usefull
1152. # [09:59] <Six> well at least all unit tests
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1154. # [09:59] <KWierso|Home> I'm sure it'd be possible to add such a mach command
1155. # [10:01] <Ms2ger> It's called tryserver ;)
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1157. # [10:02] <jfkthame> s/tryserver/mozilla-inbound/ :P
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1159. # [10:02] <KWierso|Home> :|
1160. # [10:02] <Six> Ms2ger: yes thanks, i was expecting somebody who would answer that :)
1161. # [10:03] <Ms2ger> jfkthame, meet our new sheriff, KWierso :)
1162. # [10:03] <KWierso|Home> sup
1163. # [10:03] <jfkthame> delighted to meet you :)
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1168. # [10:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2662face321 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 876626 - Always redraw the entire reftest canvas for async animations tests. r=roc
1169. # [10:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad0fa6692a65 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 876626 - Make CanAnimateProperty correclty respect the CanAnimate_AllowPartial flag. r=dzbarsky
1170. # [10:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b75f6184008a - Matt Woodrow - Bug 873944 - Remove unecessarily callers to nsView::Invalidate. r=roc
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1172. # [10:05] <firebot> initiated resize or similar), then block until the compositor has drawn the frame. r=roc
1173. # [10:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7bcd1eada79 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 873944 - Add FlushRendering API to the compositor interface. r=nrc
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1237. # [11:16] <firebot> containing block. r=mats
1238. # [11:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af63ae46293d - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 882027. Make MediaDecoder::UpdateReadyStateForData always be responsible for calling GetNextFrameStatus when that value is passed to
1239. # [11:16] <firebot> HTMLMediaElement::UpdateReadyStateForData, but keep calling GetNextFrameStatus on the state machine thread to suppress dispatching of redundant runnables when nothing has changed. r=cpearce
1240. # [11:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7fc64b1eeebd - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 876092. Part 1. Don't let effects of MarkFramesForDisplayList carry over between pages. r=mats
1241. # [11:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/194268f3bd8a - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 876092. Copy the DisplayItemClip into OutOfFlowDisplayData instead of storing a pointer. r=mats
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1375. # [12:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/34f7cce42095 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 883671 - Get rid of plugin.expose_full_path. r=bsmedberg
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1383. # [12:51] <gfritzsche> hmpf, the mixed indentation across the code-base is... slightly annoying
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1385. # [12:52] <Ms2ger> It's even more fun if you have 2/3/4-space indentation in one file
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1387. # [12:53] <gfritzsche> oh, yeah, that sounds awesome
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1407. # [13:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/80ebe45d4652 - Siddartha P - Bug 879821 - NFC B2G IPC Implementation Using UnixSockets; r=qdot
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1420. # [13:13] <darktrojan> just use tabs everywhere \o/
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1422. # [13:14] <darktrojan> :(
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1424. # [13:17] * froydnj likes the few files in the tree that use tab-width: 20; makes it easy to see when somebody does something wrong
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1428. # [13:18] <Ms2ger> froydnj, it's even better if they don't have a vim modeline, then gedit uses the tab-width and inserts 20 spaces
1429. # [13:20] <froydnj> Ms2ger: doh :(
1430. # [13:20] <darktrojan> gedit is so intelligent
1431. # [13:21] <darktrojan> can't believe I put up with it for so long
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1456. # [13:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/03b202a6f343 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 883436 - Remove prtypes.h #include from nsString.h. r=ehsan
1457. # [13:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bef58eae5f12 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 882624 - Update comments. r=bbondy
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1474. # [13:53] <Pike> is aurora good to land? probably DONTBUILD, too, but the tree looks funky
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1482. # [13:59] <jfkthame> Pike: the blue retries are infra-related, you can ignore them; aside from that, only showing 2 unstarred, and they both look like infra issues as well, so i'd guess it's fine if you want to star them and land
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1498. # [14:06] <Pike> tbh, I only found one, no idea which other tbpl is talking about
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1500. # [14:07] <Pike> good enough for an all-locales change
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1503. # [14:10] <jfkthame> the j and k keys should move you backwards/forwards through any unstarred failures, fwiw
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1505. # [14:10] <jfkthame> easier than spotting them by eye
1506. # [14:10] <edmorley> also try only unstarred view ('u')
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1508. # [14:11] <Ms2ger> Also p and n if you're not into vim
1509. # [14:11] <jfkthame> basically, hit any key and see what happens
1510. # [14:12] <Pike> esplode
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1516. # [14:16] <Yoric> felipe: ping
1517. # [14:17] <felipe> Yoric: pong
1518. # [14:17] <Yoric> felipe: Hi.
1519. # [14:17] <Yoric> Who's involved in sessionrestore for e10s?
1520. # [14:18] <felipe> Yoric: billm has been doing some work on it
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1522. # [14:18] <Yoric> thanks
1523. # [14:18] <Yoric> I just wanted to point out to e10s people that we're rewriting very large chunks of SessionRestore atm.
1524. # [14:18] <Yoric> billm: ^
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1532. # [14:22] <till> Yoric: he's probably asleep :)
1533. # [14:22] <Yoric> till: Well, now he has a message :)
1534. # [14:22] <felipe> Yoric: cool thanks. we are aware, we talked about this in a meeting a while ago. I think we're now waiting to see some more specifics of where the rewrite will lead
1535. # [14:23] <felipe> Yoric: I assume the rewrite is being done with e10s in mind, right?
1536. # [14:23] <Yoric> felipe: Well, we are trying to not make things worse :)
1537. # [14:23] <till> heh
1538. # [14:23] <Yoric> More generally, we are making things more asynchronous.
1539. # [14:23] <Yoric> We are not familiar enough with e10s to be sure that we're improving the situation for e10s.
1540. # [14:24] <Yoric> felipe: Will you be there at the Toronto work week?
1541. # [14:24] <Yoric> (or someone else from e10s)
1542. # [14:24] <felipe> I will
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1544. # [14:25] <felipe> Yoric: making it more async helps.. and i think the most important is to keep a clear split of what happens in content and in chrome
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1547. # [14:26] <Yoric> felipe: We're not so good here.
1548. # [14:26] * kmoir is now known as kmoir-buildduty
1549. # [14:26] * @ted can't wait until tbpl turns into a full-fledged nethack clone
1550. # [14:27] <felipe> Yoric: btw I'm in paris this week.. wanna meet up to talk about it?
1551. # [14:27] <Yoric> felipe: What are you doing in that forsaken city?
1552. # [14:27] <Yoric> felipe: But sure, drop by whenever you want :)
1553. # [14:28] <felipe> :)
1554. # [14:29] <@ted> froydnj: i just realized looking at your parallel reftest log (awesome, btw) that reftest prints bogus information about test chunking
1555. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> I should get myself shown around the new office at some point
1556. # [14:29] <@ted> "Running chunk 1 out of 2 chunks. tests 1-4600/4600"
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1560. # [14:33] <froydnj> ted: doh
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1562. # [14:34] <@ted> froydnj: looks like it prints gURLs.length as the last bit there, except that's after it's already done gURLs = gURLs.slice(...)
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1564. # [14:35] <@ted> probably just need a temp var there
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1566. # [14:39] * froydnj sees that his Atomics-in-xpcom patch has successfully make mutexes and condvars leak everywhere
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1569. # [14:39] <Yoric> froydnj: Who is to congratulate?
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1571. # [14:41] <froydnj> Yoric: not sure! maybe this can help track down some of the intermittent leaks, though
1572. # [14:41] <@ted> exciting
1573. # [14:41] <Yoric> I'm curious, btw, what's that patch?
1574. # [14:42] <Yoric> My neighbour wants atomic operations in xpcom, so it might be related :)
1575. # [14:42] <Yoric> (I mean atomic CAS, which we don't have in nspr)
1576. # [14:42] <froydnj> Yoric: https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/72036a04c4f4
1577. # [14:42] <Yoric> s/related/interesting for him/
1578. # [14:42] <froydnj> Yoric: we have atomic cas in mfbt now
1579. # [14:42] <Yoric> Oh, we do?
1580. # [14:42] <Yoric> pnkfelix: ^
1581. # [14:42] <froydnj> (32-bit and 64-bit types only)
1582. # [14:42] <froydnj> (64-bit only on 64-bit platforms)
1583. # [14:43] <pnkfelix> Yoric: thx for ptr
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1585. # [14:44] <pnkfelix> Yoric: hmm, I had been looking in nspr, but maybe xpcom suffices for our needs.
1586. # [14:45] <Yoric> pnkfelix: Actually, he's talking about mfbt.
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1590. # [14:45] <pnkfelix> Yoric: lovely, another acronym to learn.
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1593. # [14:48] <Yoric> And a lovely one, too.
1594. # [14:48] <Ms2ger> Mozilla Framework Based on Templates
1595. # [14:48] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Which office was that?
1596. # [14:48] <Ms2ger> Unless you want a drink
1597. # [14:49] <Ms2ger> Yoric, Paris
1598. # [14:49] <@ted> at least it's a fun one
1599. # [14:49] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Drop by whenever you want.
1600. # [14:49] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
1601. # [14:49] * bz_sleep is now known as bz
1602. # [14:49] * Ms2ger hasn't been to Paris for a while
1603. # [14:49] <@ted> pnkfelix: large parts of mfbt are designed to just polyfill C++11 features
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1606. # [14:49] <pnkfelix> ted: Still trying to figure out if js shell can have dependencies on mfbt or not
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1608. # [14:50] <Ms2ger> pnkfelix, it should be able to
1609. # [14:51] <@ted> it can, yes
1610. # [14:51] <@ted> i think waldo is the de-facto MFBT module owner
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1612. # [14:53] <karolyi> can anyone help me to create a valid cert_override.txt record? it seems that the last parameter at the end of the lines is a really hard to guess one
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1615. # [14:54] <ochameau> smaug: ping
1616. # [14:55] <@smaug> ochameau: pong
1617. # [14:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e5b2e2ee91e0 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 870787 - Improve named getter for form, r=bz
1618. # [14:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d02f89580ad9 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 879319 - implement past names map in HTMLFormElement, r=bz
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1621. # [14:57] <ochameau> smaug: hi! Josh suggested me to talk to you about message managers... you may not have seen bug 874755, but I'm convinced we do not need this new interface. we are just missing one thing on parent process message manager
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1623. # [14:58] <ochameau> smaug: as far as I can tell, we don't have loadFrameScript on parent process message manager, not on any child message manager it exposes. that's the missing feature we are looking for
1624. # [14:59] <@smaug> ochameau: process message managers don't have loadFrameScript because there isn't really any context where the script would run
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1626. # [15:00] <@smaug> process message manager is just a messaging channel between JS components in parent and child processes
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1628. # [15:01] <@smaug> I think having an interface to represent a child process makes sense
1629. # [15:02] <ochameau> let me rephrase to see if I unterstood: process MM do not have a 1-1 relation with the content being loaded in the child?
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1631. # [15:03] <@ted> karolyi: i don't really know anything about that file, but did you look at where it's parsed in the source?
1632. # [15:03] <@smaug> content loaded ?
1633. # [15:03] <@smaug> ochameau: process MM are for processes
1634. # [15:03] <ochameau> the app, or tab being loaded in the child process
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1636. # [15:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0eca15d14c2a - Patrick McManus - bug 881643 unhandled sync OnInputStreamReady on AsyncWait stack r=hurley
1637. # [15:04] <@smaug> ochameau: in parent process there is one global pmm, which has a list of pmms for each child process
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1639. # [15:04] <@smaug> each child process have then just one process manager which communicates with the parent
1640. # [15:04] <ochameau> I'm really confused, I don't see much difference between the @mozilla.org/parentprocessmessagemanager;1 component and what jim is trying to achieve here
1641. # [15:04] <@smaug> ochameau: so, right, pmm doesn't have anything to do with tabs or apps
1642. # [15:04] <karolyi> ted: yes, and it seems complicated to reproduce that base64 encoded string, specially because i need to reproduce it in python or in a shellscript
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1644. # [15:05] <@smaug> ochameau: that pmm is the global one which keeps a list of parent process message managers for each child process
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1646. # [15:05] <karolyi> ted: i am able to get the certificate, but still no idea what format the serial and the derIssuer field has, also it seems that they are simply joined together
1647. # [15:06] <@smaug> there is parent<->child pmm for each process
1648. # [15:06] <@smaug> and then there is global_pmm(1)<->(0...n)parent_pmm in the parent process
1649. # [15:07] <karolyi> ted: i found the field creator source in nsNSSCertificate.cpp:491
1650. # [15:07] <@smaug> ochameau: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsIMessageManager.idl#100
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1652. # [15:07] <karolyi> ted: but frankly, i'm no C++ coder :)
1653. # [15:08] <ochameau> smaug: I don't see what we are missing. for me, the various message manager being exposed are already enough. I'm using @mozilla.org/parentprocessmessagemanager;1 to broadcast message to all childs, I just miss a way to load a frame script in all childs.
1654. # [15:08] <@ted> karolyi: sorry, i can't offer you any more advice, i don't think this file is intended to be generated
1655. # [15:08] <@ted> why are you trying to generate it anyway?
1656. # [15:09] <@smaug> ochameau: why the need for loading scripts?
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1658. # [15:09] <@smaug> in which context should the script run?
1659. # [15:09] <@smaug> we'd need to create something new, but what kind of global object would the js have?
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1661. # [15:10] <ochameau> smaug: we need the same behavior than other loadFrameScript method
1662. # [15:10] <karolyi> ted: we're running a xulrunner instance for a special software we use, to open hotspot portals, and loads of them use an invalid https certificate, so we decided to put the exception in cert_override.txt before the xulrunner starts (inside of the xulrunner there's no way to bring up the add exception dialog)
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1664. # [15:10] <@smaug> ochameau: well, frame message managers are per tab
1665. # [15:10] <@smaug> process level isn't
1666. # [15:10] <@smaug> you can't have .docshell or .content properties
1667. # [15:10] <@smaug> since they don't make sense in process level
1668. # [15:11] <@bsmedberg> hrm https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=418735d495c3 is a little more orange than I expected
1669. # [15:11] <@ted> karolyi: that doesn't sound like the right way to do it
1670. # [15:11] <ochameau> smaug: that's because we can have more than one frames in a process?
1671. # [15:11] <@ted> karolyi: you can use the NSS commandline tools to install your cert into the profile you're using
1672. # [15:11] <@smaug> ochameau: right
1673. # [15:11] <@smaug> can and do
1674. # [15:11] <@ted> or inside xulrunner you can just import the cert into the NSS db
1675. # [15:11] <karolyi> ted: you mean into cert8.db?
1676. # [15:12] <karolyi> ted: can you elaborate?
1677. # [15:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/045aa030111e - Joey Armstrong - bug 875549: mozbuild cleanup for HOST_CSRCS. r=gps
1678. # [15:12] <@smaug> ochameau: why can't you just have some JS component running in the child process?
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1680. # [15:12] <@smaug> and make it listen for the process message manager messages
1681. # [15:12] <ochameau> smaug: no, at the end, we really want a frame script
1682. # [15:12] <@smaug> why
1683. # [15:12] <ochameau> we do need a reference to content/docShell
1684. # [15:12] <@smaug> but which one?
1685. # [15:13] <ochameau> for the app being loaded in the process
1686. # [15:13] <@smaug> the JS component could access docshell/content too
1687. # [15:13] <@smaug> there can be several tabs, so there isn't just one docshell/content to access
1688. # [15:13] <@ted> karolyi: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/NSS_reference/NSS_tools_:_certutil
1689. # [15:13] <@ted> is the commandline way to do it
1690. # [15:13] <ochameau> smaug: then, we end up willing a frame script, don't we?
1691. # [15:13] <@smaug> ochameau: if you want something per docshell/content, you need to use frame mm
1692. # [15:14] <@bsmedberg> oh wow. I misspelled "pref" as "perf" in all.js and it refuses to parse the file at all
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1695. # [15:14] <@ted> karolyi: the chromium site has some examples of how to run it: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxCertManagement
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1697. # [15:14] <@smaug> ochameau: for process mm, implementing a js component is kind of having a frame script.
1698. # [15:15] <karolyi> ted: ah, thank you so much! i was struggling with this issue since days... hopefully i can now get it right
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1700. # [15:16] <ochameau> smaug: can you take a look at this comment? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817580#c21
1701. # [15:16] <karolyi> ted: to create that cert_override.txt record seemed a bit overkill
1702. # [15:17] <@smaug> bugzilla is sloooww
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1705. # [15:18] <ochameau> smaug: I would really like to use a message manager as it completely abstract the fact that the target context is in a child process or not. If we go with the nsIContentProcessService, we will most likely end up with two very distinct codepath for app being loaded in child process and other loaded in parent
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1707. # [15:18] <ochameau> smaug: and I tend to think we end up willing a frame script
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1712. # [15:21] <@smaug> ochameau: ah, frame script communicating with process mm. That sounds ok to me
1713. # [15:21] <@ted> karolyi: yeah, i really don't think that's what you want to do
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1717. # [15:22] <@bsmedberg> davidb: if I put up a tryserver build for bug 880735 is there somebody who can spotcheck it for basic accessibility concerns today or tomorrow?
1718. # [15:22] <@smaug> ochameau: though, it is not clear to me why you don't just use frame mm for everything
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1723. # [15:23] <davidb> bsmedberg: ideally that would be marcoz but he's away today and tomorrow at a conference. i could take a look.
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1725. # [15:23] <davidb> (but if you can wait to end of thursday that's better)
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1727. # [15:24] <@bsmedberg> davidb: ok well, my plan is to land it into 24, I just didn't want surprises
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1729. # [15:25] <@bsmedberg> I can obviously do minor fixups in aurora
1730. # [15:25] <ochameau> smaug: I haven't found a way to reach all already loaded frame scripts. everywhere in code, we are listening for a observer notification to get a reference to them
1731. # [15:25] <davidb> bsmedberg: appreciated and appreciated :)
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1735. # [15:26] <@smaug> ochameau: "reach already loaded frame scripts"
1736. # [15:26] <@smaug> what you mean with that
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1738. # [15:26] <RyanVM> anyone who's familiar with turning on the lights in MV?
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1740. # [15:26] <ochameau> smaug: at some point in time, we need to load a frame script, and start communicating with all already opened tabs
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1742. # [15:26] <@smaug> RyanVM: doesn't intranet have some instructions
1743. # [15:26] <joe> RyanVM: there used to be little posted pieces of paper at all the desks saying a number to call
1744. # [15:26] <ochameau> smaug: and from chrome code, I haven't been able to get a reference to their message manager
1745. # [15:27] <@smaug> ochameau: you mean in parent process?
1746. # [15:27] * RyanVM sees the paper, will try
1747. # [15:27] <ochameau> smaug: yes
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1749. # [15:27] <@smaug> oh, you're dealing with mozbrowsers here
1750. # [15:27] <@smaug> they are special
1751. # [15:27] <ochameau> ahah
1752. # [15:27] <@smaug> they aren't attached to the window level mm, since they run within content
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1754. # [15:27] <@bsmedberg> Does anyone know what happens if you simultaneously are cc'ed on a bug and have the "no bugmail" checkbox marked?
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1756. # [15:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35bf7e6dbf90 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 882120 - Apply rounding to the layer-pixel rect in Java to fix robopan regression. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
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1758. # [15:28] <@smaug> ochameau: jlebar might have some ideas
1759. # [15:28] <@smaug> mozbrowser is his baby
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1764. # [15:29] <@smaug> and takes coffee
1765. # [15:29] <ochameau> I tried to use all existing message manager APIs and I think we are just missing some tweaks here, but not a whole new thing. I'd like to help jim trying to find the right way to go
1766. # [15:30] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, what are you doing in the office at this time of day? :)
1767. # [15:30] <RyanVM> joe: heh, no answer when I called the number
1768. # [15:30] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: working, duh
1769. # [15:30] <joe> RyanVM: \o/
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1773. # [15:31] <till> RyanVM: I've been meaning to ask: where is utc-4?
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1775. # [15:31] <padenot> RyanVM: there is an url to control the lights
1776. # [15:31] <RyanVM> till: US eastern time
1777. # [15:31] <till> RyanVM: are, daylight saving?
1778. # [15:31] <ochameau> smaug: but I have something working fine now, but I'd like to get rid of the BrowserElementChild now. I think I miss a loadFrameScript method or miss the access to some frame message manager.
1779. # [15:32] <RyanVM> padenot: found it
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1782. # [15:32] <RyanVM> till: yes
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1784. # [15:32] <@smaug> ochameau: I think we should add some way to iterate all the (mozbrowser) frame message managers
1785. # [15:33] <ochameau> smaug: btw, thanks for your insight!
1786. # [15:33] <@smaug> trying to figure out some clean way
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1788. # [15:34] <till> RyanVM: I always confuse utc offsets with my automatic "the day starts that many hours after mine, there" calculations :)
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1791. # [15:34] <till> RyanVM: and those calculations put "4" somewhere in the atlantic ocean. Greenland, perhaps.
1792. # [15:35] <@ted> till: there's some atlantic coast timezone that part of canada is in that's normally UTC-4
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1794. # [15:36] <@ted> "Atlantic Standard Timezone"
1795. # [15:36] <RyanVM> newfies!
1796. # [15:36] <till> interesting
1797. # [15:36] <@ted> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Standard_Time_Zone
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1799. # [15:37] <NeilAway> ted: You hit the orange! The orange hits you! --More--
1800. # [15:37] <till> Sadly, the Caves of Steel just have way too many drawbacks. Otherwise, I'd lobby for everyone living by UTC
1801. # [15:38] <KaiRo> till: well, "the day starts x hours after ours" doesn't really fit if we aren't really in UTC
1802. # [15:38] <@ted> NeilAway: haha
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1804. # [15:38] <KaiRo> till: I guess you're UTC+2 right now and UTC+1 in winter, just like me
1805. # [15:38] <NeilAway> ted: You hear the wailing of the philor...
1806. # [15:38] <till> KaiRo: I am, yes
1807. # [15:38] <@ted> bsmedberg: i would ask glob or dkl
1808. # [15:39] <KaiRo> till: so Eastern Time is UTC-4 right now and UTC-5 in winter, but usually 6 hours difference to us
1809. # [15:39] <till> KaiRo: I never said that calculation had any meaningful correlation to the actual world ;)
1810. # [15:39] <Ms2ger> padenot, ... really?
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1812. # [15:40] <till> KaiRo: I'm aware. Hence my irritation with somebody seeming to be 4 hours behind. ;)
1813. # [15:40] <KaiRo> till: ah, ok... well, my own day cycle is screwed enough that I usually can put up a US morning show when I start my day
1814. # [15:40] <till> KaiRo: weren't you thinking about moving one timezone west, btw?
1815. # [15:40] <till> heh
1816. # [15:41] * till means "to London"
1817. # [15:41] <KaiRo> till: of course, that's mostly because I have a subscription with NFL Network, and their morning show starts quite early (noon our time)
1818. # [15:42] <till> heh
1819. # [15:42] <padenot> Ms2ger: yes, it rings the number behind the scenes
1820. # [15:42] <padenot> Ms2ger: an intern project, iirc
1821. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> padenot, sounds like that one Big Bang Theory episode
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1823. # [15:42] <padenot> hehe
1824. # [15:42] <padenot> I must have been a lot of fun to write, though
1825. # [15:43] <@khuey> does clapclap still work?
1826. # [15:43] * @khuey thought it was broken
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1828. # [15:43] <KaiRo> till: oh, and yes, my move was preconditioned on me becoming an employee in this case with the plan to apply for a VISA to move me to the US as soon as possible, but that precondition didn't work out (so far)
1829. # [15:43] <till> KaiRo: that's the plan I remember, yes
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1832. # [15:44] <glob> bsmedberg, "no bugmail" means absolutely no bugmail
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1836. # [15:45] <@ted> padenot: haha, that's crazy
1837. # [15:45] <glob> smaug, yeah; it's very weird... having a hard time trying to figure out what's going on (bug 883018 if you want to follow along)
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1841. # [15:53] <RyanVM> khuey: it does not
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1889. # [16:24] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: is it normal for git push-to-trychooser to leave patches in the hg patch queue when it's done?
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1897. # [16:30] <paul> bsmedberg: what is git push-to-trychooser? That sounds interesting...
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1900. # [16:31] <@bsmedberg> paul: https://github.com/jlebar/moz-git-tools
1901. # [16:31] <paul> thanks
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1907. # [16:36] <KWierso|Home> edmorley: I'm heading in to the office now, will upstream that test disabling when I get in there :)
1908. # [16:36] <edmorley> KWierso|Home: great - thank you :-)
1909. # [16:37] <@bsmedberg> running linux browser-chrome tests if you have focus-follows-mouse is kinda hard
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1913. # [16:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c506a6940d07 - Jim Mathies - Bug 881950 - Update the metro test harness to return a retry string when activation fails. r=bbondy
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1917. # [16:45] <firebot> Check-in:
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1919. # [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9b946da20cb - Gavin Sharp - Bug 493051: avoid having addEngine select the engine by default, by adding an optional callback to let callers observe the successful addition of the engine, r=MattN
1920. # [16:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b0ceec4270e - Gavin Sharp - Bug 879658: don't expose localStorage to FrameWorker for non-whitelisted social providers, r=mixedpuppy
1921. # [16:46] <karolyi> ted: is there a way maybe to install a certificate with certutil which doesn't alerts on any error? (usser, bad domain, invalid time)?
1922. # [16:46] <karolyi> *user
1923. # [16:46] <@ted> karolyi: probably not, no, because that would totally break SSL
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1928. # [16:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d4518f89e75a - Joey Armstrong - bug 882907: move SDK_LIBRARY to mozbuild (logic) r=gps
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1930. # [16:47] <karolyi> ted: unfortunately i can't be certain that all hotspot certificated would be valid
1931. # [16:47] <karolyi> *certificates
1932. # [16:48] <@ted> well, i don't think we have a way to say "disable all SSL security", no
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1934. # [16:48] <@ted> if you're writing a xulrunner app you can presumably just override the SSL security dialogs
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1936. # [16:49] <karolyi> ted: override? i thought they couldn't be overridden
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1938. # [16:49] <@ted> i'm pretty sure you can
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1941. # [16:50] <@ted> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/skip-cert-error/
1942. # [16:51] <@ted> for example
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1945. # [16:52] <karolyi> ted: i'll look into the code of this plugin, thx
1946. # [16:52] <gal007> Hi people! Is anybody here who can help me?
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1948. # [16:53] <gal007> I'm trying to do this in a mobile plugin replacing the alerts for window.NativeWindow.toast.show() but it didn't work: http://jsfiddle.net/PNm7s/2/
1949. # [16:54] <gal007> The clicks do nothing. Even I tryed to put a lot of try-catch but there is no error
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1957. # [16:56] <gal007> Sorry this is the code: http://jsfiddle.net/PNm7s/4/
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1972. # [17:02] <@bz> RyanVM: ping
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1974. # [17:03] <RyanVM> bz: pong
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1978. # [17:06] <Gijs> NeilAway: ping
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1981. # [17:08] <@bz> RyanVM: if I just pushed stuff recently and I want to push something else but have it end up in a different nightly....
1982. # [17:08] <gal007> why are you weitting "ping pong"? What it means?
1983. # [17:08] <@bz> RyanVM: should I stick to pushing tomorrow, basically?
1984. # [17:08] <@khuey> gal007: ping
1985. # [17:08] <@khuey> :-P
1986. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> khuey, pang
1987. # [17:08] <@bz> gal007: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_%28networking_utility%29
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1989. # [17:08] <@khuey> Ms2ger: pung?
1990. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> bz, yes
1991. # [17:09] <RyanVM> bz: yes
1992. # [17:09] <@bz> gal007: and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_tennis
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1994. # [17:09] <@bz> RyanVM: ok, thanks
1995. # [17:09] <RyanVM> I would expect that we'll get another inbound merge today
1996. # [17:09] <@bz> OK
1997. # [17:09] <@bz> But might get another one after that before the nightly?
1998. # [17:09] <RyanVM> today's nightly is already done
1999. # [17:10] <RyanVM> so your patches that got merged over today will be in tomorrow's at this point
2000. # [17:10] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, (this is about baku's patches, btw)
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2004. # [17:11] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: ah, so the ones that did make the nightly
2005. # [17:11] <RyanVM> from my merge yesterday
2006. # [17:11] <Ms2ger> Hmm? They didn't stick yesterday, I think
2007. # [17:11] <RyanVM> oh, you're right
2008. # [17:11] <RyanVM> sorry
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2010. # [17:12] <RyanVM> so yeah, long story short - today's nightlies are already out
2011. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> Right :)
2012. # [17:12] <RyanVM> if it lands today, it'll be on tomorrow's
2013. # [17:12] <RyanVM> as we're probably not doing merging inbound to m-c for the day
2014. # [17:12] <RyanVM> s/doing/done*
2015. # [17:12] <gal007> bz tell me if I understand the idea: "user A" writes ping to know if anybody receives his message. So if "user B" writes "pong" you know the message was sent.
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2017. # [17:13] <NeilAway> Gijs: pong
2018. # [17:13] <Ms2ger> gal007, and that the other party is listening for further communications
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2020. # [17:13] <Gijs> NeilAway: did the nsISupportsArray stuff for treeviews get fixed for Venkman?
2021. # [17:13] <Gijs> NeilAway: I'm not seeing any bugs filed against Venkman, but I'm suuuure something happened there. :s
2022. # [17:15] <NeilAway> Gijs: doesn't look like it to me
2023. # [17:15] <Gijs> Sigh
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2025. # [17:15] <gal007> :o thanks Ms2ger
2026. # [17:15] <Gijs> NeilAway: OK. Thanks.
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2030. # [17:18] <NeilAway> Gijs: no, I don't see any bugs filed against Venkman either
2031. # [17:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/175f9d9b9918 - Steven Michaud - Bug 877500 - Test. r=joshmoz
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2035. # [17:22] <@bz> gal007: precisely. It's much like http://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/internet/tcp/3-way_handshake.shtml except without the third bit. ;)
2036. # [17:22] <Ms2ger> A "-way handshake"?
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2041. # [17:26] <karolyi> ted: i'll look into the code of this plugin, thx
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2044. # [17:28] <karolyi> ooops wrong terminal
2045. # [17:29] <philor> gcp: you've got aurora orange
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2052. # [17:32] <Shachar> Hi guys, I'm transfering a file via dataChannels, and I want to save it locally, now the files might be big, so I want to avoid hold it all up in the memory, in chrome I use the Filesystem API, and I've seen there's this FileHandle API in firefox but it's based on indeDB that has the the 50MB limitation, any ideas on how to overcome this?
2053. # [17:33] <gcp> philikon: checking
2054. # [17:33] <philor> "crashtests/645951-1.html | image comparison (==), max difference: 90, number of differing pixels: 865"
2055. # [17:33] <philor> crashtests? image comparison?
2056. # [17:33] <jdm> haha
2057. # [17:33] <philor> "does this look like it crashed?"
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2062. # [17:34] <@ted> philor: that's...what
2063. # [17:34] <edmorley> lol
2064. # [17:34] <@ted> i mean, technically crashtests are just load-only reftests
2065. # [17:34] <@ted> so there's nothing stopping you from putting reftests in there
2066. # [17:34] <@ted> but that's crazy
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2072. # [17:37] <RyanVM> where there's a will, there's a way
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2076. # [17:38] <philor> a way without a reftest analyzer link
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2080. # [17:38] <philor> dbaron: bad bad dbaron!
2081. # [17:38] <@ted> we could add something to the reftest harness to forbid comparison tests for a particular run, and set that for crashtests
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2083. # [17:39] <RyanVM> philor: there's an easy solution for this problem, of course
2084. # [17:39] <@ted> to prevent that
2085. # [17:39] <RyanVM> ted: that sounds sensible to me
2086. # [17:39] <@ted> you should file that and assign it to froydnj ;-)
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2088. # [17:40] <RyanVM> WFM :D
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2102. # [17:46] <nalexander> !seen glandium
2103. # [17:46] <firebot> glandium was last seen 44 minutes and 46 seconds ago, saying 'ted: the bug is there already ;)' in #breakpad.
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2106. # [17:47] <nalexander> glandium: ping on review for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873569?
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2121. # [17:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cbf6498d1353 - Nicolas Carlo - Bug 875852 - Make ambient light changes in auto-mode for Reader more reliable and less sensitive in aboutReader.js. r=margaret
2122. # [17:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb43bd87db39 - Josh Matthews - Bug 883495 - Avoid releasing a scriptable DNS listener off the main thread. r=mcmanus
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2125. # [17:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4dd6f0845c5 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 883626: Skip looking to inactive Activations, r=luke
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2136. # [17:57] <philor> RyanVM: yeah, back out kats, that's the easy solution to lots of problems :)
2137. # [17:58] <kats> :(
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2145. # [18:00] <RyanVM> kats: congrats, you managed to make a reftest running in the crashtest suite fail
2146. # [18:00] <jcranmer> jdm: did you make a thunderbird try run of that s/mime crash?
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2148. # [18:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86ae36fa3ea2 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out 35bf7e6dbf90 (bug 882120) for reftest and crashtest failures
2149. # [18:01] <philor> and 100+ reftests, that was what tipped me over to backoutnow
2150. # [18:01] <kats> fair enough
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2154. # [18:04] <philor> jrmuizel: and you're asserting...
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2158. # [18:05] <RyanVM> philor: is that a barbeque I'm smelling
2159. # [18:05] <RyanVM> ?
2160. # [18:05] <philor> yep
2161. # [18:05] <Optimizer> ok, so anyone from good memory, my build is at nsSVGClipPathFrame.cpp file , how much percentage is that ?
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2165. # [18:06] <jcranmer> you're in layout
2166. # [18:06] <philor> we should add another checkbox to treestatus, "Overlapping bustages"
2167. # [18:07] <jcranmer> I can't remember if layout or content comes first, but those are really the two biggies
2168. # [18:07] <Optimizer> I see
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2170. # [18:07] <jcranmer> everything after them, except the libxul link, is small fry
2171. # [18:07] <Optimizer> because this has been running since last 20 hours
2172. # [18:07] <RyanVM> philor: i've got a backout ready to push
2173. # [18:07] <Optimizer> and I am running out of patience
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2178. # [18:08] <philor> RyanVM: thanks, do it
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2183. # [18:09] <jrmuizel> philor: :(
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2185. # [18:10] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: ooo, saved by a CLOSED TREE
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2187. # [18:10] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: did you want to take a look quick?
2188. # [18:10] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: I am
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2190. # [18:10] <RyanVM> ok, I'll hold off on editing my commit message then :)
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2199. # [18:14] <jdm> jcranmer: I did not
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2204. # [18:15] <jrmuizel> RyanVM: you can back me out
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2206. # [18:15] <jcranmer> jdm: okay
2207. # [18:16] <jcranmer> I'll kick one off so I can test on windows
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2209. # [18:16] <RyanVM> jrmuizel: ok
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2214. # [18:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5b59c74871e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8dcb029b9ca5 (bug 880836) for asserts.
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2218. # [18:17] <nmatsakis> What is the password for http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/signup ?
2219. # [18:18] <nmatsakis> "spamfilter password"?
2220. # [18:18] <nmatsakis> bsmedberg: ^
2221. # [18:18] * jld also wonders about the operation of ^
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2225. # [18:19] <jld> Because I didn't know it existed until today, and I suspect that it's basically unknown within the b2g org-subtree.
2226. # [18:19] <RyanVM> philor: did you take a look at that "crashtest" btw?
2227. # [18:19] <Ms2ger> It's an up-arrow
2228. # [18:20] <froydnj> jld: logical xor?
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2230. # [18:20] * jld seems to have woken up in the wrong metalevel this morning
2231. # [18:21] * Ms2ger accidentally metalevels jld out of the window
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2236. # [18:23] <till> nmatsakis: did you get a response via pm?
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2240. # [18:24] <RyanVM> jdm: pig
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2242. # [18:24] <RyanVM> jdm: hah, ping
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2245. # [18:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8416c29fecda - Asaf Romano - Bug 834539 - Replace getPageTitle with an async API. r=mak. sr=gavin.
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2247. # [18:25] <jdm> RyanVM: pong
2248. # [18:25] <RyanVM> jdm: birch bustage
2249. # [18:26] <RyanVM> looks like your manifest change is a bit messed up
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2251. # [18:26] <jdm> bleah
2252. # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a4c1a113154 - Nick Alexander - Bug 874132 - Part 3: Replace uses of apkbuilder with zip and custom debug signing tool. r=jmaher
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2254. # [18:26] <jdm> RyanVM: could you back it out, please?
2255. # [18:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c0b8d909db83 - Nick Alexander - Bug 874132 - Part 2: Add custom debug signing tool. f=mcomella, r=jmaher
2256. # [18:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ceefba074d86 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 874132 - Part 1: Handle SDK layout differences in the Android r22 SDK. r=nalexander
2257. # [18:26] <RyanVM> jdm: I could, but the fix is simple, now?
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2260. # [18:27] <jdm> RyanVM: I'm fairly distracted at the moment
2261. # [18:27] <RyanVM> i can fix, just want to make sure I'm following the right intent
2262. # [18:27] <RyanVM> jdm: I assume you want to skip the highaccuracy test on osx and run test_geolocation_timeout_wrap.js on all platforms?
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2264. # [18:30] <RyanVM> jdm: or did you mean to just put the two new tests at the bottom and leave the skips on test_geolocation_timeout_wrap.js alone?
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2269. # [18:31] <RyanVM> jdm: wait, I'm backing this out. I guess this was supposed to only land on b2g18
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2273. # [18:32] <jdm> RyanVM: correct
2274. # [18:32] <RyanVM> that wasn't exactly...obvious at first glance
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2276. # [18:32] <jdm> I know; I was planning to land it myself
2277. # [18:33] <RyanVM> jdm: k, then I'm just going to leave it alone and go about my business :)
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2279. # [18:33] <RyanVM> jdm: be sure to fix the manifest before pushing :)
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2281. # [18:34] <Mano> what's the spamfilter password i should use at http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/signup ?
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2283. # [18:35] <@gavin> Mano: sent
2284. # [18:35] <Mano> ta
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2292. # [18:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/da161284668e - Wes Johnston - Bug 879482 - Use correct function when mapping results from file pickers. r=mfinkle
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2298. # [18:42] <Ms2ger> Is someone making people use http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/signup ?
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2303. # [18:45] <yvan> Ms2ger: individual managers I suspect
2304. # [18:45] <yvan> and there was some discussion about that between people recently (regarding status updates)
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2306. # [18:46] <@bz> God
2307. # [18:46] <@bz> Bugzilla is so slow....
2308. # [18:47] <till> Ms2ger: for the js team, at least, it was in reaction to the new format of the platform meeting
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2310. # [18:47] <glob> bz, https://blog.mozilla.org/it/2013/06/18/bugzilla-feeling-slow/
2311. # [18:47] <glob> :(
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2318. # [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a1e3764868a - James Willcox - Bug 883201 - Make SourceSurfaceSkia::GetData keep pixels alive as necessary r=gal
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2323. # [18:54] <gwagner> do we have a bad nightly?
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2327. # [18:55] <jlebar> bsmedberg: git-push-to-try runs qpop -a at the end. Maybe you're getting hit by hg phases?
2328. # [18:55] <jlebar> gwagner: ping?
2329. # [18:56] <gwagner> jlebar: pong
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2331. # [18:56] <jlebar> gwagner: hey, you've used the ffos simulator, right?
2332. # [18:56] <jlebar> gwagner: Is it multiprocess?
2333. # [18:56] <@bsmedberg> jlebar: no, I guess I expected it to qrm the patches, not just qpop them
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2336. # [18:56] <gwagner> jlebar: what simulator do you mean? :)
2337. # [18:56] <jlebar> gwagner: I'm not sure!
2338. # [18:56] <jlebar> bsmedberg: ah
2339. # [18:56] <jlebar> bsmedberg: It uses qqueue to actually switch your queue.
2340. # [18:57] <gwagner> jlebar: the emulator?
2341. # [18:57] <@bsmedberg> oh
2342. # [18:57] <jlebar> bsmedberg: but I guess it would be nice to switch it back.
2343. # [18:57] <jlebar> gwagner: I was thinking the /simulator/, but maybe these people meant the /emulator/
2344. # [18:57] <jlebar> That would make a lot more sense.
2345. # [18:57] <jlebar> gwagner: When you were debugging that twitter localstorage issue and using instruments, how were you doing that?
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2347. # [18:57] <gwagner> jlebar: this was just a b2g desktop build
2348. # [18:58] <gwagner> jlebar: that's not multi-process by default
2349. # [18:58] <jlebar> gwagner: but you flipped the pref, okay.
2350. # [18:58] <gwagner> the emulator should be multi-process
2351. # [18:58] <gwagner> yeah
2352. # [18:58] <jlebar> gwagner: Yes, definitely.
2353. # [18:58] <jlebar> gwagner: okay, this makes me feel a lot bette.r
2354. # [18:58] <jlebar> Thanks.
2355. # [18:58] <gwagner> jlebar: btw the desk next to me has your name on it :)
2356. # [18:58] <billm> imelven: ping
2357. # [18:59] <jlebar> gwagner: I'll be there on Moday. :)
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2359. # [18:59] <gwagner> jlebar: cool. well I won't be here. I will have some leo fun in taipei
2360. # [19:00] <jlebar> gwagner: more room to spread out, then! :)
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2362. # [19:00] <gwagner> jlebar: it's ok. this week I have 2 desks :)
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2364. # [19:00] <KWierso> RyanVM: but why... https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=jetpack&rev=d5b59c74871e
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2368. # [19:01] <RyanVM> KWierso: earlier bustage
2369. # [19:01] <RyanVM> backing out now
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2371. # [19:01] <billm> mmc: ping
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2373. # [19:02] <mmc|laptop> hi billm
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2375. # [19:02] <billm> mmc|laptop: hey, do you know when and where the sandboxing meeting is?
2376. # [19:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc1118580105 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset fb43bd87db39 (bug 883495) for mass carnage of a CLOSED TREE.
2377. # [19:02] <mmc|laptop> 1030, the bridge
2378. # [19:02] <pnkfelix> anyone know what the password for http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/signup is ?
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2381. # [19:04] <billm> mmc|laptop: thanks
2382. # [19:04] <mmc|laptop> np billm
2383. # [19:04] <mmc|laptop> there is also food outside of the bridge
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2385. # [19:04] <@bz> man
2386. # [19:05] <@bz> is mxr being super-slow too?
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2392. # [19:06] <Optimizer> so... my build is taking forever to complete
2393. # [19:06] <Optimizer> is this known on Windows ?
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2397. # [19:07] <froydnj> Optimizer: yes
2398. # [19:07] <Optimizer> wut really ?
2399. # [19:07] <Optimizer> by forever I mean 24+ hrs
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2401. # [19:08] <Mook_as> that seems longer than the usual amount of forever
2402. # [19:08] * jhopkins|afk is now known as jhopkins
2403. # [19:08] <Optimizer> duh
2404. # [19:08] <Optimizer> my usual is max 2 hrs
2405. # [19:08] * ctalbert|afk is now known as ctalbert
2406. # [19:08] <Optimizer> in this same box
2407. # [19:08] * philor|away is now known as philor
2408. # [19:09] <padenot> Optimizer: I've seen that happen recently
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2410. # [19:09] <padenot> Optimizer: does issuing a simple command, like `ls` takes a while, too?
2411. # [19:09] <Optimizer> using the mingw32 ?
2412. # [19:09] <froydnj> oh man, orange inc
2413. # [19:10] <padenot> Optimizer: yeah, using mozilla-build shell
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2415. # [19:10] <ctalbert> ggp were you looking for me last night?
2416. # [19:10] <Optimizer> nope
2417. # [19:10] <Mook_as> sort-of-almost-related: did you recently install msysgit?
2418. # [19:10] <Optimizer> no
2419. # [19:10] <Optimizer> no change
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2422. # [19:10] <Optimizer> I infact am clobbering after a 2-3 week period of time
2423. # [19:11] <Optimizer> I just started find .
2424. # [19:11] <Optimizer> lets see how much time that takes
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2432. # [19:13] <sankha93> is there an docs on using console.jsm?
2433. # [19:13] <sankha93> *any
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2435. # [19:14] <Optimizer> just import it
2436. # [19:14] <Optimizer> and use ot normally
2437. # [19:14] <sankha93> and then?
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2440. # [19:15] <ggp> ctalbert|mtg: I was indeed. I'll also need to set my pref for xpcshell tests, which is the relevant file? testing/xpcshell/head.js maybe?
2441. # [19:15] <ggp> (sorry for disturbing your meetings btw)
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2444. # [19:17] <froydnj> gps: \o/
2445. # [19:18] <jdm> RyanVM: well played
2446. # [19:18] <RyanVM> jdm: y u no liek my tree?
2447. # [19:18] <@bsmedberg> remind me, is there an inbound2 I can use?
2448. # [19:18] <jdm> you didn't seem busy enough for my liking
2449. # [19:18] <gps> froydnj: what did I do?
2450. # [19:18] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: hmm
2451. # [19:19] <jhammel> beta? ;)
2452. # [19:19] <froydnj> gps: bug 884421
2453. # [19:19] * RyanVM looks for the last good inbound cset
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2456. # [19:19] <RyanVM> 045aa030111e
2457. # [19:19] <philor> hint: keep clicking the green down-arrow
2458. # [19:19] <RyanVM> only 4 hours ago
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2462. # [19:20] <RyanVM> i'm not planning to open inbound until I see some green
2463. # [19:20] <RyanVM> I guess I could open cypress off that
2464. # [19:20] <RyanVM> whee
2465. # [19:20] <mccr8> GREEN
2466. # [19:20] <RyanVM> hush you
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2469. # [19:20] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: why not, I'm feeling masochistic today
2470. # [19:23] * philor looks forward to seeing double-mass-carnage
2471. # [19:23] <RyanVM> indeed :D
2472. # [19:23] <RyanVM> where's sfink when you need him?
2473. # [19:24] <philor> plenty of people happy to fill that slot
2474. # [19:24] * RyanVM waits on his push to cypress to go through
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2476. # [19:24] <sfink> ooh, I've got a really good one for that
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2478. # [19:24] <RyanVM> imagine that, 2.5 weeks worth of changes takes awhile
2479. # [19:24] <sfink> I guess already knowing that it would fail half the tests kind of takes the fun out of it, though
2480. # [19:25] <RyanVM> added 1974 changesets with 15073 changes to 9178 files
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2483. # [19:25] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: fire away
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2485. # [19:25] <RyanVM> Cypress is OPEN
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2488. # [19:26] <froydnj> sfink: those were all intermittent oranges, push away!
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2492. # [19:29] <sfink> they briefly turn green when I close my eyes. complementary colors ftw
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2497. # [19:31] <till> Why do I have a 300mb worker for symbolication though I deactivated the Gecko Profiler for the session?
2498. # [19:32] <gal007> Hey people can you help me with this addon? There's no much code. I only need to know why the onclick enevt of every Item is not working: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7z1sbow66fobk76/sqw_-ZWMbN
2499. # [19:32] <till> And and 65mb worker for creating page thumbnails, even though I deactivated the about:home page thumbs?
2500. # [19:32] <@khuey> till: because the browser hates you
2501. # [19:32] <till> I knew it!
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2503. # [19:32] <nalexander> gal007: I suggest #jetpack for such questions.
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2506. # [19:33] <till> BenWa: ping
2507. # [19:34] <mmc|laptop> billm, we're gonna start
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2521. # [19:39] * RyanVM looks at cypress
2522. # [19:39] <RyanVM> yep, that was worth it
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2529. # [19:42] <philor> I think I had some buildbot config patch that I wasn't very excited about that hadn't yet seen jobs, so thanks for triggering for it, I'll try to remember what it was
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2532. # [19:42] <RyanVM> heh
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2537. # [19:44] <philor> ah, checktests on b2g desktop and debug b2g build
2538. # [19:44] <@bz> hrm
2539. # [19:44] <@bz> etherpad gone again?
2540. # [19:44] * @bz should stop storing stuff tehre
2541. # [19:45] <@bz> er, there
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2544. # [19:45] <ctalbert|mtg> ggp yes, I think in head.js
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2547. # [19:46] <ggp> ctalbert|mtg: great, thanks!
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2559. # [19:53] <@bz> There's a meeting in 7 mins, right?
2560. # [19:53] * @bz can't find the dial-in info
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2562. # [19:54] <Mook_as> bz: the one at the top of https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-06-18 ?
2563. # [19:54] <@khuey> hmm
2564. # [19:54] <@khuey> etherpad is down again?
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2576. # [19:57] <Mossop> khuey: Looks like
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2578. # [19:57] <@bz> Mook_as: yes, perfect, thanks
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2580. # [19:58] <Mook_as> you're welcome.
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2603. # [20:14] <@ted> remote: You can view your change at the following URL:
2604. # [20:14] <@ted> remote: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/cypressrev/24e9d0e5998d
2605. # [20:14] <@ted> i think someone screwed up a URL somewhere
2606. # [20:14] <Ms2ger> ted, you can fix it :)
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2616. # [20:19] <dougt> heh… sorry akeybl
2617. # [20:19] <dougt> i still love you.
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2620. # [20:21] <akeybl> dougt: it's a silly rule given how few questions/comments there are
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2622. # [20:21] <dougt> akeybl: so is your face!
2623. # [20:22] <akeybl> good thing I'm immune to blood pressure rises
2624. # [20:22] <akeybl> releases
2625. # [20:22] <@khuey> blood pressure releases sound unpleasant
2626. # [20:22] <gwagner> stully: ping
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2628. # [20:22] <stully> gwagner: pong
2629. # [20:23] <gwagner> stully: do you need help landing bug 807688?
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2632. # [20:24] <stully> gwagner: I was waiting until I tested the patch to the unit tests with my android implementation.
2633. # [20:24] <stully> but it can be landed if you want
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2636. # [20:25] <gwagner> stully: it's up to you. but if you wait longer you risk that you have to rewrite it because we are landing webidl for contacts soon
2637. # [20:25] <gwagner> otherwise reuben has to merge :)
2638. # [20:25] * Ms2ger suggests landing the webidl first
2639. # [20:26] <stully> okay, it can be landed then, but I don't have permission to land patches so someone has to do it for me
2640. # [20:26] <gwagner> should be a small merge but your patch is already ready to go
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2643. # [20:26] <reuben> grr
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2645. # [20:27] <gwagner> reuben: is it too much if I ask you to land it? :)
2646. # [20:27] <reuben> grrrrrrrrrr
2647. # [20:27] <reuben> firebot: push my patch
2648. # [20:27] <firebot> reuben: Sorry, I've no idea what 'push my patch' might be.
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2650. # [20:28] <Ms2ger> firebot, review my patch
2651. # [20:28] <firebot> Ms2ger: Your patch looks good. r+sr+ui-r+a=mconnor
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2657. # [20:29] <Wraithan> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-6b0226f2-49c2-4144-9a09-c36b92130618 -- hitting this whenever I try to start nightly, new profile or existing profile
2658. # [20:30] <reuben> gwagner: well… https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Birch
2659. # [20:30] <froydnj> RyanVM: BLOCK ALL THE CRASH BUGS
2660. # [20:30] <reuben> cers: --- ^
2661. # [20:30] <gwagner> is this a gaia bug?
2662. # [20:31] <reuben> cp tools/pre-commit .git/hooks/pre-commit
2663. # [20:31] <reuben> cp: .git/hooks/pre-commit: No such file or directory
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2668. # [20:33] <gwagner> yeah. we have to back out
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2672. # [20:36] <gwagner> RyanVM: do you have backout privileges for gaia?
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2681. # [20:39] <jcranmer> ehsan: how's your progress on making clang build on windows?
2682. # [20:39] <grobinson> anybody here work on the Password Manager?
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2685. # [20:40] <RyanVM> gwagner: technically yes AFAIK
2686. # [20:40] <RyanVM> gwagner: never actually attempted it, though
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2688. # [20:41] <gwagner> RyanVM: the last push should fix it
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2690. # [20:41] <gwagner> RyanVM: but good to know :)
2691. # [20:42] <RyanVM> mano: ping
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2698. # [20:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd9245e21812 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 8416c29fecda (bug 834539) for xpcshell failures.
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2701. # [20:47] <philor> hmm, if we switch to cypress, most people won't actually push
2702. # [20:47] * philor makes a note, circles it in red
2703. # [20:47] * Kripton is now known as kripton
2704. # [20:47] <philor> handy!
2705. # [20:47] <RyanVM> heh, indeed
2706. # [20:48] <till> gavin: thanks, I looked at bug 809056 but didn't realize that it was what I was looking for
2707. # [20:48] <@bz> switch what to cypress?
2708. # [20:48] * terrence is now known as terrence|lunch
2709. # [20:48] <RyanVM> bz: I opened cypress for landings while inbound is closed
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2712. # [20:49] <RyanVM> (waiting on android green before reopening, fwiw)
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2718. # [20:51] <@bz> RyanVM: ah, ok
2719. # [20:52] <Mano> RyanVM: pong
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2722. # [20:53] <RyanVM> Mano: too late, had to back you out :(
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2724. # [20:53] <Mano> RyanVM: hrm, why?
2725. # [20:53] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24296744&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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2727. # [20:54] <sankha93> mak: ping
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2730. # [20:54] <mak> sankha93: pong
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2732. # [20:55] <sankha93> mak: MattN had emailed you about the places API for bug 335448
2733. # [20:55] <sankha93> I needed a bit of help with the places API
2734. # [20:56] <mak> sankha93: ok, what can I do to help you?
2735. # [20:56] <sankha93> mak: what would be better for getting the frecency, querying by the URL or the domain name?
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2738. # [20:58] <mak> sankha93: there is no API currently to "get" the frecency, Mano filed a but to add one. if you query directly, there is frecency for a page, then you should giv an url, and frecency for a domain that is coalesce of frecencies for all of the pages in that domain... it actually depends on the use-case
2739. # [20:59] <sankha93> mak: ok, and are there any queries that can be helpful for extracting form submissions from the Places API?
2740. # [21:00] <mak> sankha93: form submissions are not tracked by Places, they are tracked by the form history component
2741. # [21:00] <sankha93> ah, satchel
2742. # [21:01] <sankha93> mak: thanks! will ping you if I need further help! :)
2743. # [21:01] * @khuey attempts to push to cypress without pushing all of inbound to it
2744. # [21:01] <mak> sankha93: no problem, feel free to ask
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2746. # [21:02] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
2747. # [21:02] <@ted> philor: getting an up-to-date cypress was sort of a pain
2748. # [21:03] <@khuey> abort: empty revision set
2749. # [21:03] <@khuey> warning: post-push hook exited with status 255
2750. # [21:03] * @khuey wonders if that matters
2751. # [21:03] <catlee> ted: why?
2752. # [21:03] <gps> khuey: you've just earned a badge!
2753. # [21:03] <catlee> khuey: that's your local hook I think?
2754. # [21:03] <gps> IIRC that error is from pushing nothing
2755. # [21:03] <@dbaron> https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/cypress/pushloghtml says otherwise
2756. # [21:04] <@dbaron> er, wait
2757. # [21:04] <catlee> I get that with my try phases hook
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2759. # [21:04] <@dbaron> https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/cypress/ says otherwise
2760. # [21:04] <@dbaron> https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/cypress/pushloghtml doesn't load
2761. # [21:04] <@dbaron> which seems like it might be related
2762. # [21:04] <gps> sounds like a post push hook is buggy
2763. # [21:04] <@dbaron> oh, now it loaded
2764. # [21:04] <@khuey> catlee: oh, fun
2765. # [21:05] <@khuey> gps: what badge?
2766. # [21:05] <gps> breaking mercurial!
2767. # [21:05] <catlee> it's fun!
2768. # [21:06] <@khuey> heh
2769. # [21:06] * @khuey lunches
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2771. # [21:06] <@smaug> hmm, what is cypress
2772. # [21:06] <Callek> a tree
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2774. # [21:06] <@smaug> sure
2775. # [21:06] * Callek is looking up a helpful answer though
2776. # [21:06] <RyanVM> a tree that'll be closing soon hopefully
2777. # [21:06] <RyanVM> smaug: "inbound2"
2778. # [21:07] <catlee> does anybody use it?
2779. # [21:07] <RyanVM> 3 people this time!
2780. # [21:07] <@smaug> aha
2781. # [21:07] <Callek> what ryan said
2782. # [21:07] <Callek> https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/DisposableProjectBranches
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2784. # [21:07] * @smaug will push a patch to m-i once it opens
2785. # [21:07] <@smaug> big patch
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2787. # [21:08] <RyanVM> smaug: once I see a green robocop-2, I'll reopen
2788. # [21:08] <froydnj> nothing says "reopened tree" like a big patch landing right away
2789. # [21:08] <@smaug> linking libxul.so ...
2790. # [21:08] <RyanVM> froydnj: I was pretty impressed with khuey's patch dump on cypress
2791. # [21:09] <@smaug> something to do for RyanVM. He can then close the tree again and backout my patch :)
2792. # [21:09] <RyanVM> hmm, why is khuey's push only showing pgo builds?
2793. # [21:09] <@ehsan> jcranmer: we can go through the main configure now
2794. # [21:10] <jcranmer> ehsan: and how much further before blowing up?
2795. # [21:10] <@ehsan> jcranmer: I stopped once I get there since I want to hear from ted on my patches before I proceed further
2796. # [21:10] <@ehsan> jcranmer: the nspr's configure ;)
2797. # [21:10] <@ehsan> should be easy to fix
2798. # [21:10] <gps> wait, what is cypress?
2799. # [21:10] <gps> I think I missed something while on holiday!
2800. # [21:10] <Ms2ger> gps, inbound2
2801. # [21:10] <@ehsan> but I didn't want to redo whatever fixes ted would suggest again
2802. # [21:10] <gps> fuck yes
2803. # [21:10] <jcranmer> ehsan: meh, --enable-system-nspr :-)
2804. # [21:10] <@ehsan> on windows? ;)
2805. # [21:10] <RyanVM> catlee: any ideas on why only pgo builds on khuey's push?
2806. # [21:11] <RyanVM> and of course, then they all start
2807. # [21:11] <RyanVM> it's a conspiracy, I tell ya
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2809. # [21:11] <jcranmer> ehsan: if it works :-)
2810. # [21:11] <catlee> RyanVM: did someone do a giant push to cypress?
2811. # [21:11] <RyanVM> yes
2812. # [21:11] <catlee> ah
2813. # [21:12] <RyanVM> just took their sweet time starting
2814. # [21:12] <catlee> yeah, all the masters were hung up on the db
2815. # [21:13] <@ted> catlee: because i didn't have a clone of it
2816. # [21:13] <@ted> i wound up just cloning my local m-c and pulling cypress into it
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2819. # [21:13] <@ted> but it was still more work than "update inbound, apply patch, push"
2820. # [21:13] <RyanVM> inbound is OPEN
2821. # [21:13] <RyanVM> nuke away
2822. # [21:13] * jcranmer pushes his rm -rf * patch
2823. # [21:13] <catlee> ted: yeah, I was going to recommend cloning a local clone
2824. # [21:14] <jcranmer> does wonders for build times!
2825. # [21:14] <@smaug> open
2826. # [21:14] <RyanVM> jcranmer: FIX ALL THE THINGS
2827. # [21:14] <jcranmer> RyanVM: it also solves all the memory problems, too
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2830. # [21:16] <@smaug> crossing fingers, throwing some salt over shoulders and what not
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2832. # [21:16] <@smaug> and RyanVM|lunch decided to start his lunch
2833. # [21:16] * jgriffin is now known as jgriffin-lunch
2834. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> Time to land
2835. # [21:16] <jcranmer> it's a trap!
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2837. # [21:17] <JonathanS> Thanks Admiral
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2844. # [21:24] <JosiahOne> wsmwk: So on bug 842963 do I just run that patch on the current daily tree?
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2846. # [21:24] <gps> khuey|away: you may enjoy these useful mercurial aliases: http://gps.pastebin.mozilla.org/2538951
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2849. # [21:25] <gps> be warned that they operate on a "unified" hg repo - where all the separate repos are tracked as bookmarks
2850. # [21:26] <JosiahOne> wsmwk: Or is comm-esr required?
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2856. # [21:35] <jcranmer> ctalbert++
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2917. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43516c3e17fb - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 880836. Add MaskSurface() to Azure. r=bas
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2927. # [22:22] <@khuey> what'd I do?
2928. # [22:23] <froydnj> looks like what bsmedberg did
2929. # [22:23] <jhammel> he's still upset by the turks
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2931. # [22:23] <jhammel> oh, cyp*ress*
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2933. # [22:24] <@bsmedberg> what did I?
2934. # [22:24] <froydnj> bsmedberg: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Cypress&rev=2d970c9c1fad
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2936. # [22:24] <@bsmedberg> oh crap
2937. # [22:24] <@bsmedberg> wait, that passed on tryserver :-(
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2939. # [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1d2a43c84bd3 - Chris Peterson - Bug 883071 - Don't send opted-out SSIDs when querying Google Location Service. r=dougt
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2947. # [22:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a45f1dcd603c - Luke Wagner - Bug 853239 - warn on a statement expression use (r=jorendorff)
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2953. # [22:31] <philor> it only makes 100% of the time that we've opened cypress that the first push after opening broke it
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2955. # [22:31] <jcranmer> overholt: ping
2956. # [22:31] <overholt> jcranmer, hey
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2959. # [22:32] <jcranmer> you say you're talking with ctalbert about automating code coverage?
2960. # [22:32] <ctalbert|mtg> jcranmer: ah that's what I got hte ++ about
2961. # [22:32] <jcranmer> :-)
2962. # [22:33] <overholt> "talking" in this case means "spoke with yesterday"
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2964. # [22:34] <ctalbert|mtg> heh
2965. # [22:35] <jcranmer> I can tell you what the basic needs of automation are
2966. # [22:35] <jcranmer> and it struck me as I was poking around my hacky patches that integrating this sort of thing into mozbase might not be a bad idea
2967. # [22:35] <ctalbert|mtg> jcranmer: one question I had - did y'all just do gcov? Did you attempt any JS code coverage with your results? I haven't looked at the results in about a year.
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2969. # [22:35] <jcranmer> we just did gcov
2970. # [22:36] <jcranmer> I've attempted JS coverage several times
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2972. # [22:36] <jcranmer> but... results are suboptimal
2973. # [22:36] <ctalbert|mtg> we attempted it too last time we tried this. But it was pretty brittle
2974. # [22:36] <jcranmer> the jscoverage scripts that QA used back in 2008-2009 don't parse modern JS
2975. # [22:36] <ctalbert|mtg> I'd believe that
2976. # [22:37] <jcranmer> I got something working with bhackett's pccounts, but that was really hacky and I never get a straight answer on how likely that is to be killed in the JS engine
2977. # [22:37] <jcranmer> there was another approach which got something working with chrome debugging support
2978. # [22:37] <jcranmer> both of the latter cases require changes to m-c though
2979. # [22:38] <jcranmer> [well, so did my code-coverage-on-try work, but that was only to make everyone dump out the gcda tarballs at the right time]
2980. # [22:38] <@bsmedberg> philor/ryanvm: I'll back out. I don't understand given try passes :-(
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2983. # [22:40] <TiagoTiago> Mossop: I've been told i should talk to you about this.
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2985. # [22:40] <eilgin> how can i know the name of the chrome page i'm currently in ?
2986. # [22:40] <TiagoTiago> Mossop: Why doesn't the current Firefox detects warns users about outdated plugins?
2987. # [22:40] <TiagoTiago> detects and*
2988. # [22:41] <Mossop> TiagoTiago: Do you actually mean plugins, like flash, or do you mean extensions?
2989. # [22:41] <TiagoTiago> yep, Flash, Java etc
2990. # [22:41] <ctalbert|mtg> jcranmer: one of the things I'd like to do would be to start a dev.platform thread on this and see why all the previous attempts at it have peetered out. I know the 08-09 effort's major problem was its brittleness and the fact that it produced no truly actionable intelligence. Starting smaller (only gcov for instance) is probably a better way to go, but I want to be sure we're not going to repeat all the same mistakes.
2991. # [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38f0844975f2 - Jason Orendorff - Back out rev 5d35dc039af7 (bug 875433) due to Web compatibility issues (bug 881782, bug 883914). rs=Waldo on IRC.
2992. # [22:42] <Mossop> TiagoTiago: We haven't been keeping the list up to date, partly because we don't actually have a good user experience for handling that case
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2994. # [22:43] <TiagoTiago> What would go wrong? Anything worse than people not updating their plugins and staying potentially unsafe?
2995. # [22:43] <jcranmer> ctalbert|mtg: I'm a datavis freak who would like to have a good record of historical data for code coverage for my own visualization fun
2996. # [22:43] <jcranmer> :-)
2997. # [22:44] <Mossop> TiagoTiago: User annoyance mostly
2998. # [22:44] * jcranmer once made an animation showing the daily change in code coverage for comm-central
2999. # [22:44] <TiagoTiago> People upset to be notified they had outdated plugins?
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3002. # [22:45] <Mossop> Yes, and then not given anything to do about it
3003. # [22:45] <TiagoTiago> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ isn't of enough help?
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3007. # [22:46] <Mossop> It wasn't deemed enough, no
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3009. # [22:47] <@bsmedberg> TiagoTiago: we are warning people about known-insecure plugins using the new click-to-play UI
3010. # [22:47] <ctalbert|mtg> jcranmer: that would be cool
3011. # [22:48] <@bsmedberg> TiagoTiago: and we're fixing the CtP UI to make it easier to use
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3014. # [22:48] <TiagoTiago> Is the functionaly still present but just disabled by default or is it completly removed?
3015. # [22:48] <jcranmer> ctalbert|mtg: I actually still have all that data sitting around :-)
3016. # [22:48] <@bsmedberg> TiagoTiago: what do you mean? It's enabled by default, for known versions of Flash and Java
3017. # [22:48] <jhammel> so....code coverage....we talking lines of code or permutation space? i always get nervous through percentages out
3018. # [22:48] <jcranmer> gcov runs of daily builds of comm-central from ~June 2008-June 2009
3019. # [22:48] <TiagoTiago> No, i mean for outdated plugins
3020. # [22:49] <jcranmer> jhammel: our historical metrics have been gcov's output
3021. # [22:49] <jcranmer> gcov/lcov
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3023. # [22:50] <@bsmedberg> TiagoTiago: we don't intend to worry users about plugins which are not unsafe
3024. # [22:50] <@bsmedberg> we have enough trouble worrying users about plugins that *are* unsafe
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3026. # [22:52] <TiagoTiago> As an advanced user, i would like to be notified when i'm using a potentially unsafe plugin...
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3029. # [22:52] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, known-unsafe, or just "newer version available"?
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3033. # [22:52] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, it sounds like you're asking for the latter
3034. # [22:53] <TiagoTiago> newer version avaiable
3035. # [22:53] <@dolske> you should probably just consider all plugins to be potentially unsafe.
3036. # [22:53] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, cool! we have a tool for you -- the plugin check page you linked above
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3039. # [22:53] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, most users don't want to be bugged about that
3040. # [22:53] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, particularly if they're not allowed to update plugins on their system, and their IT dept manages that for them
3041. # [22:53] <TiagoTiago> companies often don't acknowledge the vulnerabilities they are aware of
3042. # [22:54] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, you're right, we don't live in a perfect world
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3045. # [22:54] <TiagoTiago> The thing with that page is i have to remember to go there and read it; with an automated warning i would know much sooner about a new version being avaiable
3046. # [22:55] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, this is also the sort of thing you could probably fix with an add-on
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3048. # [22:55] <TiagoTiago> Why was the functionality removed instead of just disabled by default?
3049. # [22:55] <dholbert> given that the thing you're requesting would be an annoyance for most users
3050. # [22:55] <jcranmer> ctalbert|mtg: were you planning on starting the mdp thread yourself?
3051. # [22:56] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, I'm not sure there was any functionality remove
3052. # [22:56] <dholbert> d
3053. # [22:56] <ctalbert|mtg> Yes I was, unless you wanted to do it.
3054. # [22:56] <TiagoTiago> From what i understood, such warnings existed some time ago...
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3056. # [22:57] <jcranmer> ctalbert|mtg: not particularly, just curious
3057. # [22:58] <dholbert> TiagoTiago, I'm not aware that we ever did what you're asking for (notified you that there's a new version of a plugin). As bsmedberg said above, we do that for *known vulnerable* plugin versions
3058. # [22:58] <@dolske> correct
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3061. # [22:59] <Mossop> Yeah we've never done it for plugins in general in the past
3062. # [22:59] <dholbert> and if you just want to check for updates, you can visit the plugincheck page. Make it your homepage, if you like :)
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3067. # [23:00] <ctalbert|mtg> jcranmer: I'll cc you on it so you can jump in.
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3073. # [23:01] <TiagoTiago> Actually, i want Firefox to check for updates for me; going to a page only to see nothing has changed since the last time doesn't seem like a self-sustaining behavior...
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3076. # [23:01] <dholbert> So that's a feature request
3077. # [23:01] <dholbert> not a "Why did you take out this feature"
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3081. # [23:02] <TiagoTiago> Like i said, i got the impression it used to be that way
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3083. # [23:02] <TiagoTiago> Didn't Mossop said it was removed 'cause it annoyed some users?
3084. # [23:03] <dholbert> you asked why it was removed, and he responded explaining why it's the way that it is
3085. # [23:03] <dholbert> he didn't say it was removed
3086. # [23:03] <dholbert> anyway
3087. # [23:03] * dholbert back to work :)
3088. # [23:03] <jcranmer> ctalbert|mtg: notd
3089. # [23:03] <jcranmer> noted*
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3091. # [23:03] <TiagoTiago> So it was just tested, but never officially released?
3092. # [23:06] <dholbert> what gave you that idea?
3093. # [23:06] <taras> keeler: do you know where 3rd party cookie blocking code lives?
3094. # [23:06] <TiagoTiago> How about this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=870227 ? Or was that just about outdated versions with known vulnerabilities?
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3097. # [23:06] <dholbert> I believe that's for known vulns, yeah
3098. # [23:07] <TiagoTiago> Hm...
3099. # [23:07] <TiagoTiago> Then which users were annoyed if it was never on a official release and never tested?
3100. # [23:07] <dholbert> we don't test every possible hypothetical feature and see if it annoys users
3101. # [23:08] <dholbert> It's that notifications annoy users, generally
3102. # [23:08] <dholbert> and they require attention
3103. # [23:08] <TiagoTiago> So it was guessed it would annoy users and never implemented in the first place?
3104. # [23:08] <@dveditz> TiagoTiago: the people who had vulnerable flash versions but locked down computers so they couldn't update, and now couldn't watch their vids
3105. # [23:08] <@dolske> taras: the patch in bug 818340 should give an outline, which I'd check if bugzilla was responding...
3106. # [23:08] <dholbert> so we have to make a cost-benefit about what we notify users for, and how important it actually is
3107. # [23:08] <taras> dolske: thank you
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3109. # [23:08] <dholbert> anyway
3110. # [23:08] * dholbert back to work for real now
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3112. # [23:08] <TiagoTiago> Hm...
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3114. # [23:08] <TiagoTiago> I think i get it
3115. # [23:09] <@dveditz> maybe I'm thinking of a different feature.
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3117. # [23:09] <dholbert> dveditz, yeah, he's asking about something slightly different
3118. # [23:09] <@dveditz> Everything I know about was tied to the blocklist
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3123. # [23:09] <@dveditz> either blocking, and then trying to warn instead, and click to play instead, etc
3124. # [23:09] <@dveditz> are all variations on "how do we get the word out without a backlash"
3125. # [23:10] <@dveditz> and we do try to blocklist things, and SUMO (for one) hears about it when we do
3126. # [23:10] <TiagoTiago> Warnings (CTP or otherwise) about outdated plugins that don't have public known vulnerabilities (yet)
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3129. # [23:11] <@dveditz> TiagoTiago: yeah, that was tied to the blocklist
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3131. # [23:11] <@dveditz> there was going to be "blocked" for nasty stuff, and an infobar warning for blocklist <severity=0>
3132. # [23:11] <@dveditz> but there were several problems with that.
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3134. # [23:12] <TiagoTiago> So versions had to be manually entered on that list to trigger a warning, instead of working on a similar mechanism to https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ ?
3135. # [23:12] <@dveditz> we still had people on old versions (of Firefox) that didn't know about severity=0, so they'd just get blocked -- they screamed
3136. # [23:13] <@dveditz> so then they decided it would be OK for just the vulnerable ones instead, but couldn't get people to pull the trigger on that either.
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3138. # [23:13] <@dveditz> eventually that morphed into click to play
3139. # [23:13] <@dveditz> TiagoTiago: the goal was eventually to have the plugin product warnings tied to the same database as the plugincheck page
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3141. # [23:14] <@dveditz> but at the moment those are two different lists
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3143. # [23:14] <TiagoTiago> I see
3144. # [23:14] <TiagoTiago> Is that still on the plans?
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3147. # [23:15] <@dveditz> There is no one working on that as far as I know
3148. # [23:15] <@dveditz> it's still on the "would be nice someday" list
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3150. # [23:16] <TiagoTiago> Is there any reason why the plugincheck have to be a page instead of just being part of the interface?
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3152. # [23:16] <TiagoTiago> Sorta how it is with Extensions (though i guess without the builtin means to update)
3153. # [23:16] <@dveditz> TiagoTiago: it doesn't /have/ to be a page, but there are mundane reasons thats how it came out that way
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3156. # [23:17] <@dveditz> (like, Firefox devs busy with list of features, web devs have time to do it, ergo it's a web page)
3157. # [23:17] <@dveditz> One advantage of the web page, though, is it's a service that works for browsers other than Firefox
3158. # [23:18] <Mossop> Well, part of the goal was to make that page available to any browser, but that has since been lost somewhat
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3160. # [23:19] <@dveditz> they put a lot of effort into making it work on browsers that support NPAPI, and to a lesser extent IE (I think only Flash and Java for IE)
3161. # [23:19] <@dveditz> or more specifically, browsers that support navigator.plugins[]
3162. # [23:20] <@dveditz> I haven't checked after the recent rewrite.... hopefully that's still the case
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3164. # [23:21] <Mossop> dveditz: The updated page didn't work in IE, they were talking about trying to fix that but I don't know if they got anywhere.
3165. # [23:22] <Mossop> I guess I could go crazy and fire up IE to check
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3175. # [23:26] <cpeterson> Mossop, dveditz: fyi, I am working (verrrrrry part-time) on bug 757726, which would only expose a few whitelisted plugins in Firefox's navigator.plugins[] (to reduce browser fingerprintability)
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3180. # [23:27] <stully> gwagner: ping
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3183. # [23:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca5fe9958e90 - Stefan Mirea - Bug 867902 - Remove old saved FHR payload from disk. r=gps
3184. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e086e888bd8d - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 879228 - [browserconsole] tune console.jsm to ease Addon SDK integration. r=msucan
3185. # [23:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57624f26be8f - Arnaud Sourioux - Bug 702080 - Replace GetDisplayDocument with IsResourceDoc when needed. r=bz
3186. # [23:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80cf4c214910 - Michael Harrison - Bug 883777 - Reduce the width of the DNT preference "Learn More" link. r=dao
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3192. # [23:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2cd778cfb53e - Peter Linss - Add DOCTYPE declaration to test. No bug. No review.
3193. # [23:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b65294b69a5b - L. David Baron - Bug 693496: Fix ABORT by being consistent that canonical form calc() values need not have a percent part. r=dholbert
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3200. # [23:34] <gwagner> stully: pong
3201. # [23:35] <stully> gwanger: what's the purpose of the getRevision function is the contacts API?
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3206. # [23:41] <stully> gwagner^
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3220. # [23:48] <gwagner> stully: so you can check if something changed
3221. # [23:48] <gwagner> stully: if an app caches the contacts it can check if it has to fetch the contacts again
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3223. # [23:49] <gwagner> stully: every time we add, modify, delete a contact we increment the revision number
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3225. # [23:49] <stully> gwagner: so it passes in a contact and the function checks the given contact with the contact in the database and they are the same it returns true else false? something like that?
3226. # [23:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a7d946a431ef - Jeff Walden - Bug 884561 - Update test262 test imports to tip using the script added in bug 496923. r=generating-script-was-reviewed
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3228. # [23:50] <stully> if they are the same*
3229. # [23:50] <gwagner> stully: no it's not a per contact revision. it's a DB revision. you don't call it with an argument
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3231. # [23:52] <stully> gwagner: oh, I see. I don't know how I would implement that on Android since many other services may be modifying the contacts database.
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3236. # [23:53] <gwagner> stully: oh hm good question. it's hard to get right if the internal DB doesn't support it
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3239. # [23:55] <stully> gwagner: would it be best to just ignore the messages from ContactManager if it is called leaving it as a sort of no-op? or just always return a dummy revision value?
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3244. # [23:56] <stully> there doesn't seem to be a failure case for it like there is for the other functions in contactmanager
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3246. # [23:56] <gwagner> stully: maybe call the on error saying not implemented
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3248. # [23:56] <gwagner> stully: you can add one if you need one
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3250. # [23:57] <stully> gwagner: okay, i'll do that. thanks!
3251. # [23:57] <gwagner> sure
3252. # [23:57] <gwagner> reuben: thanks for landing :)
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