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# Session Start: Thu Jun 20 00:00:00 2013
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# [00:01] <@roc> seems to be a week for beating up Google people
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# [00:03] <nrc> who have you beaten up?
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# [00:03] <Callek> Bas: O GOD -- are we even legally allowed to ship a microsoft header in our source tree?
# [00:03] <nrc> I always thought you had a vicious streak :-)
# [00:03] <Callek> also o god I was totally way back in scrollback
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# [00:04] <Bas> Callek: I dunno, it's just stuffed I hacked -out- of a microsoft header. We just did what had to be done to work-around an MS problem in a way they recommended ;)
# [00:04] <@dolske> wow, are y'all still talking about that SDK thing? :P
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# [00:04] <Bas> dolske: We just got back to it :-)
# [00:05] <Callek> dolske: I'm talking about license in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/d2a7cfa34154/gfx/2d/moz-d2d1-1.h
# [00:05] <@roc> carrying on a couple of standards-related punch-ups at the same time. Nothing major.
# [00:05] <Callek> not quite about teh SDK itself
# [00:06] <Bas> roc: What'd Google do?
# [00:06] <Bas> I felt they've been perfectly nice hypocrites this week :)
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# [00:07] <dholbert> Bas, not to add overhead, but I think you probably need to follow https://www.mozilla.org/MPL/license-policy.html for that header
# [00:07] <dholbert> in particular, "If you are planning to import new Third Party Code into a Mozilla Repository, always consult licensing@mozilla.org first. They can then check whether the license is compatible - even simple-looking licenses can have twists in them - and make sure our requirements are met."
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# [00:07] <dholbert> s/not to add overhead/i hate to add overhead/
# [00:08] <Bas> dholbert: I sent several e-mails to several people about it at the time, I hardly got any replies. It was a very high priority bug, at some point we had a gfx meeting and we decided we just had to fix it.
# [00:08] <Bas> dholbert: The other option is depending on the Windows 8 SDK, big fan of that, btw! :P
# [00:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdb7780fe53c - John Schoenick - Bug 878363 - Followup, fix compilers complaining about fixing other compilers complaining about an unknown warning. r=ted
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# [00:09] <dholbert> Bas, I'm not arguing that we should reject the patch; just want to make sure our licensing/legal folks are aware of it
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# [00:09] <Bas> dholbert: Depends on if they read my e-mails at the time I guess :) I have no reason to believe they did or didn't ;)
# [00:09] <dholbert> cool, ball's in their court I suppose
# [00:09] <Callek> Bas: dholbert: perhaps open a legal bug on it and resend the e-mail
# [00:10] <Bas> dholbert: fwiw, I'm killing this -as soon- as we can depend on the Win8 SDK.
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# [00:10] <stephend> sewardj: any chance you're around?
# [00:10] <Callek> this sounds like a perfect example of "we can get hurt" by not making sure legal is aware
# [00:10] <stephend> hello, if so
# [00:10] <dholbert> yeah
# [00:10] <sewardj> stephend: hi
# [00:10] <Bas> Callek: I'm not sure who'd hurt us.
# [00:10] <stephend> oh man, hello!
# [00:10] <mcsmurf> that file has been in the tree since many month
# [00:10] <mcsmurf> noone cared so far
# [00:10] <Bas> MS certainly isn't going to care, otherwise I can always bring up their mail recommending the approach :p
# [00:11] <mcsmurf> s/since/for
# [00:11] <stephend> sewardj: j l e b a r said you might be a good person to talk to about getting valgrind set up on b2g?
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# [00:11] <stephend> sewardj: for context: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=879451
# [00:11] <Callek> Bas: and when you're long gone, or your e-mail isn't handy?
# [00:11] <sewardj> stephend: /me looks ..
# [00:11] <stephend> thx
# [00:11] <Bas> Callek: Oh God no, I sure hope we'll be on the Win8 SDK in the next couple of months :)
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# [00:11] <Callek> Bas: and microsoft looks at us as copying and using their incompatible license, and shipping said code to linux, or us modifying their license
# [00:11] <Bas> And then I can kill that nightmare.
# [00:11] <Callek> etc
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# [00:11] <dholbert> Bas, in particular "All code in Mozilla Repositories must be under an Open Source Definition-compliant license." on https://www.mozilla.org/MPL/license-policy.html seems like it doesn't apply
# [00:12] <Callek> Bas: basically, when it comes to legal rules, best to error on caution, by making sure the lawyers at Mozilla are aware
# [00:12] <sewardj> stephend: really the expert on this is b e n t
# [00:12] <Callek> IANAL, but I try to never get bit by one
# [00:12] <Bas> I don't even know the license Win SDK headers are under :s
# [00:12] <stephend> sewardj: cool, ty
# [00:13] <sewardj> stephend: he did a bunch of valgrinding of b2g a couple months back
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# [00:13] <stephend> great, pinging in #b2g
# [00:13] <stephend> ty
# [00:14] <Bas> Callek dholbert: I'll e-mail licensing@, maybe it'll help me strong-arming people into making the Windows 8 SDK a requirement! :P
# [00:14] <Callek> Bas: sounds like a perfect reason that legal needs to be involved, if you can't tell what license they are under, chances are you violated the law by even copying it into a place we distribute it :-P
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# [00:14] <Callek> Bas: and win8 a hard requirement is a seperate talk/decision than the license here
# [00:14] <mcsmurf> but we have other-licenses\
# [00:15] <Bas> Callek: Not really, since if we want to remove this file, that is our -only- option.
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# [00:15] <mcsmurf> ok, open source license, hm
# [00:15] <Callek> mcsmurf: yes, and those must be compatible
# [00:15] <@gavin> stop talking about licensing violations
# [00:15] <mcsmurf> yes, sir
# [00:15] <Bas> Good idea.
# [00:15] <Callek> so about Oracle violating the gpl with MySQL man pages.....
# [00:15] * Callek trolls gavin briefly
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# [00:18] <nemo> Callek: you know that was a screwup right? Is hard to tell at what level you're trolling
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# [00:19] <Callek> nemo: I don't believe oracle, and I read the news report on it BEFORE they even admitted it was a problem in their bugzilla
# [00:19] <Callek> but yea trolling hard
# [00:19] <Callek> (I don't believe oracle that it was entirely an accident that is)
# [00:20] <nemo> Callek: I find that distrust reasonable
# [00:20] <nemo> but. at least they climbed down from it
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# [00:21] <nemo> BTW, changing licenses is ridiculously difficult for FOSS projects. We were contemplating GPLv2 => GPLv2+ but the level of effort was just too great
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# [00:21] <nemo> ofc, we are kinda lazy...
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# [00:21] <mcsmurf> it worked for Mozilla once
# [00:21] <mcsmurf> a long time ago
# [00:22] <Bas> BSD or MIT ftw.
# [00:22] <mcsmurf> (the NPL->MPL/GPL/NPL switch iirc)
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# [00:22] <mcsmurf> err LGPL I mean, not NPL
# [00:23] <nemo> I read http://www.jbkempf.com/blog/post/2012/I-did-it and was just super-impressed at the amount of effort he put into it
# [00:24] <nemo> according to Ohloh we only have 141 contributors and I imagine the number of core contributors is prob < 12
# [00:24] <nemo> but we are still too lazy to attempt a license update
# [00:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af744b5304d8 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 865256 - Part 2: Rename WaveTable to PeriodicWave; r=roc
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# [00:27] <cpeterson> nemo: what happens when a single contributor says they don't want to relicense their contributed code? :\
# [00:29] <sicking> jlebar: ping
# [00:29] <jlebar> sicking: hey
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# [00:29] <sicking> jlebar: do you have a sense for how much memory it takes us to spin up a worker?
# [00:29] <jlebar> sicking: roughly 1mb, I think.
# [00:30] <jlebar> sicking: on b2g, anyway
# [00:30] <nemo> cpeterson: well. in the case of the blog I linked to it looks like most people did not care about the LGPL relicense (which seems a bit more dramatic than GPLv2 => GPLv2+)
# [00:30] <nemo> cpeterson: their main problem was people they couldn't contact
# [00:30] <sicking> jlebar: that's mostly C++ stack and JS-runtime?
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# [00:30] <nemo> cpeterson: they solved this w/ splitting out the code, and rewrites.
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# [00:30] <cpeterson> nemo: thanks for the link. I'm reading parts 2 & 3 now..
# [00:31] <jlebar> sicking: That's counting only JS-runtime, but I think the runtime reports part or all of its C++ stack.
# [00:31] <sicking> jlebar: and do you know how much a Window context costs us? Comparment and C++ objects etc?
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# [00:32] <jlebar> sicking: not offhand.
# [00:32] <sicking> jlebar: ok. thanks!
# [00:32] <jlebar> sicking: it changed before/after zones.
# [00:32] <jlebar> sicking: do you want me to pull a memory report off my phone for you?
# [00:32] <sicking> jlebar: naah, i'm good, thanks though
# [00:33] <jlebar> sicking: okay
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# [00:35] <@gavin> nsm: re: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857464#c60, why do you need to wait?
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# [00:36] <nsm> gavin: now that you mention it, i feel stupid. No need to wait :)
# [00:36] <nemo> cpeterson: according to commit log they got 2 dissents, total, and of those 2, one was only partial (for a portion of his code) - is interesting how little the license concerned the devs - that seems to overlap w/ opinions amongst active devs in our project
# [00:36] <nemo> cpeterson: we have stuff on iOS just because all the active devs chose to ignore the GPL issue.
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# [00:37] <cpeterson> nemo: btw, rust relicensed last year from MIT (?) to MIT/APL2 dual-license.
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# [00:37] <nemo> cpeterson: how many people did you have to contact?
# [00:38] <@dolske> as fascinating as this licencing discussion is... it's kinda offtopic here.
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# [00:38] * mcsmurf blames the Windows 8 SDK
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# [00:38] <nemo> sorry
# [00:38] * reuben blames the Windows 8 SDK's license
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# [00:38] <mcsmurf> indeed :D
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# [00:39] <cpeterson> sorry, dolske. taken to PM
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# [00:39] <@dolske> all: please return to posting gifs of cats.
# [00:39] <nemo> hehe
# [00:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: ping
# [00:39] <Callek> dolske: wait theres an off-topic?
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# [00:40] <Callek> I guess since here became busier, there is :(
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# [00:40] * Callek remembers when #mozilla was *everyone* and that was *the place* for every possible chat
# [00:40] <mcsmurf> heh
# [00:40] <Callek> also I remember almost getting banned from #mozilla
# [00:40] <cpeterson> is there a #offtopic?
# [00:40] <Callek> a few times
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# [00:41] <mcsmurf> there was #hs in the past, but seems like not many people are there anymore ;)
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# [00:42] <Callek> mcsmurf: hs was the vulger-ok channel, moved to #fs for same target
# [00:42] <Callek> and it can get vulgar on occassion
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# [00:42] <cpeterson> #offtopic exists
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# [00:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1715991888ac - Jeff Gilbert - Bug 860543 - Account for testing shadowed NaNs. - r=bjacob
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# [00:50] <bjacob> er, thoroughly
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# [00:52] <gw280> bjacob: link?
# [00:52] <RyanVM> *starts flame war, grabs popcorn*
# [00:52] <bjacob> gw280: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2013-June/039777.html
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# [00:53] <RyanVM> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7qn58NxG1qii6tmo1_500.gif
# [00:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6ee152636ad4 - Bas Schouten - Bug 878032 - Part 2: Factor out partial bitmap uploading and scaling. r=jrmuizel
# [00:53] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4267a8556659 - Bas Schouten - Bug 878032 - Part 1: Factor out some simle none-RenderTarget dependent functions. r=jrmuizel
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# [00:54] <RyanVM> bjacob: what, killing MathML wasn't enough for you?
# [00:55] <bjacob> RyanVM: i had some more hate to spare
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# [00:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e2ad7bd617e - Shane Caraveo - bug 882652 fix disabling of socialapi in popups, r=felipe
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# [01:01] <jimb> Is there any way to set a pref for the duration of a mochitest, and ensure it gets restored to its old value by the time the test finishes?
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# [01:02] <jimb> (Is registerCleanupFunction the only way?)
# [01:02] <@khuey> pushPrefEnv?
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# [01:04] * jimb searches the wiki for that
# [01:04] <jimb> khuey: Looks ideal! Thanks!
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# [01:26] <froydnj> RyanVM: this needs a "starts flame war, grabs popcorn" caption: https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/thumb/5/56/Land_patch_-_go_home.jpg/300px-Land_patch_-_go_home.jpg
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# [01:26] <RyanVM> heh
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# [01:30] <philor> Bas: so, Android
# [01:30] <Bas> philor: Not me this time!
# [01:30] <Bas> This code isn't compiled on android.
# [01:31] <Bas> Unless... nooo
# [01:31] <Bas> Maybe it is me, maybe android is really obscure somehow.
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# [01:31] <Bas> philor: No it's not :)
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# [01:32] <philor> Bas: indeed!
# [01:32] <Bas> philor: It's jgilbert.
# [01:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5df5ee7bd17 - Justin Dolske - Bug 839961 - Refactor login manager's content actions into a separate JSM. (mobile and metro changes) r=mfinkle
# [01:32] <jgilbert> fun
# [01:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58d5552a5ef4 - Justin Dolske - Bug 839961 - Refactor login manager's content actions into a separate JSM. (main patch) r=mattn
# [01:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1213ea1ff91a - Justin Dolske - Bug 839961 - Refactor login manager's content actions into a separate JSM. (bug 881996 workaround) r=mattn
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# [01:33] <philor> here, let me stop them so you can get a backout in edgewise
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# [01:34] <jgilbert> good ol' warnings-as-errors
# [01:34] <@dbaron> ornings as where errs?
# [01:36] <RyanVM> Werror FTW
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# [01:36] <jhammel> mornings as errors? ;)
# [01:36] <@dolske> Wessel
# [01:36] <RyanVM> nuclear?
# [01:37] <@dolske> da
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# [01:39] <philor> on the bright side, Linux too so that's a big swath of tests I won't have to see run
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# [01:40] <RyanVM> jgilbert: I assume you're fixing and not waiting for us to back you out?
# [01:40] <philor> and as long as nobody knows who else isn't actually backing it out, we can stay closed longer, and get fewer pushes, and run fewer tests :)
# [01:40] <jgilbert> RyanVM: yeah, backout should be up now
# [01:40] <RyanVM> ok
# [01:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d68f2618ea70 - Jeff Gilbert - Backout 1715991888ac for android bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [01:40] <RyanVM> philor: i'll reopen in a sec
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# [01:41] <jgilbert> we'll see how back I messed that up :)
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# [01:41] <RyanVM> i'm more impressed that you actually backed out for a Werror instead of spot fixing
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# [01:42] <cpeterson> jgilbert: you just needed #ifdef DEBUG
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# [01:42] <Bas> RyanVM jgilbert: I'm disappointed, not impressed ;)
# [01:42] <@dbaron> we should really have unexpected warnings turn the tree orange rather than red
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# [01:43] <jhammel> ++
# [01:43] <avih> roc: when you say to rip it out, you mean only at nsDocShell? this mechanism is also available elsewhere, though not on too many places: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?q=avorPerformanceHint
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# [01:43] <jgilbert> eh, I don't really want to play the bouncy-tree game
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# [01:43] <cpeterson> gcc -Worange
# [01:44] <jgilbert> cpeterson: I'm on windows atm
# [01:44] <philor> we should really have all failures brown instead of red-orange-purple
# [01:44] <jgilbert> and I usually build with clang, anyways
# [01:44] <KWierso> philor++
# [01:45] <@roc> avih: do docshell first I guess
# [01:45] <@roc> one step at a time
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# [01:45] <RyanVM> philor: so that's a thirding I think
# [01:45] <RyanVM> philor: sounds like we have a plurality
# [01:45] <avih> roc: sounds reasonable. that's what i'll start with. thanks.
# [01:45] <TimAbraldes> philor: for red/green colorblind people, we're already pretty much there
# [01:46] <mattwoodrow> dbaron: That would be particularly useful on try server if it finished the build and ran tests too
# [01:46] <RyanVM> TimAbraldes: FWIW, we were actually discussing mockups for tbpl2 today. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to solicit some a11y help with it.
# [01:46] <mattwoodrow> rather than aborting everything just because of a warning
# [01:46] <jhford> if we're talking about colour vision issues
# [01:47] <jhford> please stop using green and yellow to mean different things
# [01:47] <jgilbert> mattwoodrow++, sigh
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# [01:47] <philor> jhford: yeah, though I'm actually talking about not pretending that there's a difference between a "red" failure and an "orange" failure and a "purple" failure
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# [01:48] <jhford> oh
# [01:48] <jhford> sorry
# [01:48] <Callek> what about a pink failure!
# [01:48] <KWierso> pink is legit
# [01:48] <philor> http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/why-arent-we-moving-the-lights-grey.jpg wants to know why the tree is still closed
# [01:48] <@dbaron> hmmm, roc's new email signature seems like more work to decode
# [01:48] <jhammel> philor: nice
# [01:48] <Callek> philor++
# [01:48] <jgilbert> infra failure seems pretty different than build/test errors, though
# [01:49] <Bas> Was merging on ref a good idea? :P
# [01:49] <Bas> Well, I guess jgilbert backed out :)
# [01:49] <Bas> *red
# [01:49] <reuben> roses are grey, violets are grey… uh…
# [01:49] <RyanVM> he wouldn't mess that up, right?
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# [01:49] <Bas> At least it'll obscure any problems in introduced! :)
# [01:49] <philor> jgilbert: our two biggest infra failures of the last six months have been "webgl tests cause OOM which causes slaves to disconnect" and "webrtc crashtest kills tegras"
# [01:50] <philor> whereas when a releng patch breaks things, it's nearly always red or orange, rather than purple
# [01:51] <jgilbert> I would think merging them would be a step back for people who don't work with this stuff all the time
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# [01:52] <philor> on the face of it, but the fact is, if you are looking at a job which is red, or orange, or purple, the meaning is exactly the same - "I have to look at this failure and see what actually happened"
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# [01:52] <philor> there is absolutely no purple which means "I don't even have to look at this," none ever, not under any circumstances
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# [01:53] <philor> so the only thing it does is make people think they can just ignore it, until they land the thing try was telling them was busted, and bounce out of the tree
# [01:54] <philor> and the difference between red and orange is that people sometimes spend ten minutes talking about which color something should be, or worse yet spend thirty minutes writing a patch to make something a different color
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# [01:55] <jgilbert> I disagree that infra and build/test failures should be the same color
# [01:55] <jgilbert> I don't agree that it doesn't help
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# [01:55] <philor> oh, you mean in the hypothetical world we don't live in, where we could actually tell the difference? yeah, I'd agree with that
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# [01:56] <jgilbert> I think partial information is better than throwing everything in the same pot
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# [01:56] <philor> the information you get from a purple job is actually: "there's a 50:50 chance this is your fault"
# [01:57] <philor> the information people think they get from a purple job is: "there's a 100% chance this is not my fault"
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# [01:57] <philor> that's not better, that's awful
# [01:57] <jgilbert> I think making them the same color will just make it take longer for people to find out what happened, and then believe it's not their fault
# [01:57] <njn> brr, it's cold here this morning
# [01:58] <@dbaron> njn, you almost sound like a San Franciscan :-)
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# [02:02] <@roc> I,I "polar blast"
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# [02:02] <@roc> the map on the Stuff page with the snowflake effect is cute
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# [02:24] <philor> nalexander: is that the shade of ruby-red you were aiming for?
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# [02:30] <@khuey> hmm
# [02:30] <@khuey> how do I make a template take a function pointer as a parameter?
# [02:30] * @khuey expects he needs to use typename somewhere
# [02:31] <Callek> nsISupports *
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# [02:31] <@khuey> Callek--
# [02:31] <Callek> sorry being trolly tonight
# [02:31] <reuben> khuey: you mean *only* a function pointer?
# [02:31] <@khuey> reuben: yeah
# [02:31] <reuben> hm
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# [02:32] <reuben> not sure you can do that without writing out all the allowed signatures
# [02:32] <@khuey> that's unfortunate
# [02:32] <Callek> RyanVM: hope you weren't expecting OSX builds :-P
# [02:32] <@khuey> because I want to allow any signature :-/
# [02:32] <Callek> [also trolling]
# [02:32] <RyanVM> people use OSX?
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# [02:33] <Callek> khuey: you can probably make a template function wrapper with the function sigs you support
# [02:33] <Callek> and then pass a pointer to THAT wrapper to your template ;-)
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# [02:34] <reuben> khuey: duck typing all the way
# [02:34] <Callek> also -- why am I recommending C++ stuff when I haven't landed a patch in C++ for well over a year
# [02:34] <reuben> that's how it's supposed to be done anyway
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# [03:03] <@dbaron> avih, ah, good, I hadn't heard
# [03:04] <avih> dbaron: yeah. but i think it's orthogonal to the starvation hint thingy
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# [03:29] <@khuey> does mfbt have a boost::function equivalent yet?
# [03:30] <@khuey> hrm no waldo
# [03:30] <jcranmer> khuey: no
# [03:30] <jcranmer> std::function is... difficult
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# [03:30] <jcranmer> if we did, I'd happily use it to rewrite our twelve hundred Runnable implementations
# [03:30] <@khuey> std::function is C++11 no?
# [03:31] <hub> it is
# [03:31] <hub> jcranmer: it isn't harder than boost::function but it is C++11
# [03:32] <jcranmer> function is inherently built off of variadic templates
# [03:32] <jcranmer> and things go downhill from there :-(
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# [03:33] <@khuey> rnewman: it
# [03:33] <@khuey> 's 3:30 AM for him
# [03:33] <rnewman> drat
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# [03:33] <rnewman> ted, mak, mounir are next :)
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# [03:42] <jlebar> Email sent to 59 recipients. (show)"
# [03:42] <jlebar> wow
# [03:43] <jlebar> that's so user-friendly!
# [03:43] <jlebar> bugzilla++
# [03:43] <@khuey> firebot: rank bugzilla
# [03:43] <firebot> bugzilla has -2 points of karma (rank 2356).
# [03:43] <@khuey> nice
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# [03:45] <jhammel> firebot: rank jhammel
# [03:45] <firebot> jhammel has 40 points of karma (rank 55).
# [03:45] <jhammel> wow, i'm above 0?
# [03:45] <jhammel> that seems like a mistake
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# [03:48] <@khuey> firebot: rank firebot
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# [03:48] <@khuey> jhammel: you can't even beat a damn bot
# [03:49] <jgilbert> firebot: rank khuey
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# [03:49] <jgilbert> burn
# [03:49] <@khuey> :-D
# [03:49] <jhammel> khuey--
# [03:49] <jhammel> :P
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# [03:49] <@khuey> jerk
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# [03:50] * njn guesses those B2G Bg reds aren't his fault
# [03:53] <mwu> a lot of red.
# [03:53] <@ehsan> firebot: rank ehsan
# [03:53] <firebot> ehsan has 77 points of karma (rank 19).
# [03:54] <@ehsan> ah, khuey wins :(
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# [03:54] <mwu> jgriffin: red on inbound
# [03:55] <jgriffin> boo
# [03:55] <njn> seems that... RyanVM is burning the tree
# [03:55] <stephend> oh noes
# [03:55] <stephend> not the marionette patch...is it?
# [03:55] <stephend> :-(
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# [03:55] <jgriffin> mwu: that red doesn't appear reltaed to my checkin
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# [03:56] <@ehsan> the Promise.o reds are https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c1596bee956c
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# [03:56] <stephend> oh, phew
# [03:57] <mwu> jgriffin: hmm seemed strange since unagi is red but the emulator is green
# [03:57] <@ehsan> no wonder I have so little karma, I knew all of this backing people out is gonna catch up to me at some point
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# [03:57] <jgriffin> mwu: my patch doesn't affect the build at all
# [03:57] <jgriffin> just tests
# [03:57] <mwu> yeah
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# [03:57] <mwu> looks that way
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# [03:58] <dougt> firebot: rank dougt
# [03:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6208332c8b04 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset c1596bee956c (bug 884279) because of build bustage
# [03:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e39187b8199 - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 8df19e23b3ae (bug 875289) because it depends on bug 884279 which I'm backing out
# [03:59] <firebot> dougt has 20 points of karma (rank 106).
# [03:59] <dougt> i suck.
# [03:59] <jhammel> dougt++
# [03:59] <mwu> jgriffin: ah, that unagi stuff looks like some sort of random red..
# [03:59] <dougt> firebot: rank dougt
# [03:59] <firebot> dougt has 21 points of karma (rank 101).
# [03:59] <jgriffin> yeah some infra thing
# [03:59] <jhammel> dougt: i'm tempted to minus you for greed though ;)
# [03:59] <dougt> i probably should have hung out here instead of #mobile for the last decade.
# [04:00] <dougt> jhammel: hah
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# [04:00] <@ehsan> jhammel: you incremented dougt but not me? that's cold
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# [04:01] <@khuey> ehsan++
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# [04:01] <jhammel> ehsan: for 18:59 < dougt> i suck.
# [04:01] <@ehsan> yay!
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# [04:01] <@ehsan> jhammel: I suck too
# [04:01] <dougt> khuey++
# [04:01] <@ehsan> :D
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# [04:01] <dougt> ehsan++
# [04:01] <@khuey> dougt: we can't all make good life choices
# [04:01] <@ehsan> yay!
# [04:01] <dougt> khuey: yeah, keep reminding me.
# [04:01] <@ehsan> man, I never thought I'd beg people for firebot karma
# [04:01] <@ehsan> screw you, firebot
# [04:01] <@ehsan> I still have some pride left!
# [04:02] <@khuey> dougt: I tell my friends in grad school this on a regular basis
# [04:02] <@khuey> this may be why they don't talk to me anymore
# [04:02] <@khuey> but I like to think it's because they're busy toiling away in labs
# [04:02] <Unfocused> nrc / njn: amazingly, i didn't get any snow where i am (at the top of a hill). even though many of the other hills in the city seem to be covered
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# [04:02] <njn> Unfocused: snow never falls on the *top* of hills, silly
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# [04:02] <mwu> interns gaming the firebot karma are the true winners
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# [04:03] <Unfocused> did last time it snowed, a couple of weeks ago :P
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# [04:04] <nrc> no snow here so far, but it is bloody freezing
# [04:04] <dougt> khuey: it is a pretty awesome time to be in the industry
# [04:04] <dougt> they should gtfo
# [04:04] <@khuey> dougt: oh these people are in other less awesome fields
# [04:05] <@khuey> I don't know anybody dumb enough to be doing a phd in CS :-P
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# [04:05] <dougt> khuey: aren't you like a nuclear bomb maker?
# [04:05] <dougt> something like that.
# [04:05] <dougt> that's why shit always blows up when you land. /me snickers.
# [04:05] <njn> who'd do a PhD in CS?
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# [04:06] <JosiahOne> The NSA heard that. Now they're coming for khuey...
# [04:06] <dougt> hello mccr8 !
# [04:06] <dougt> :)
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# [04:06] <@khuey> JosiahOne: I'm sure the feds already have records of my education
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# [04:06] <njn> khuey: esp. since you interviewed for the NSA
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# [04:06] <@khuey> njn: *whistles*
# [04:07] <dougt> khuey: regardless, i am pretty sure talking about nukes on the scary "IRC" puts you on a list
# [04:07] <JosiahOne> njn: Haha.
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# [04:07] <jld> firebot: rank jld
# [04:07] <firebot> jld has 3 points of karma (rank 503).
# [04:07] <JosiahOne> Now all 356 of us are going to be added.
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# [04:08] <jld> People have noticed me. O noes.
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# [04:08] <@khuey> dougt: you've seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ right?
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# [04:08] <JosiahOne> jld: Hey, that's a lot more than I have.
# [04:09] <@roc> jld: can you point me to instructions for the current best stack-sampling profiling on B2G 1.1?
# [04:09] <@khuey> dougt: not as hilarious as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ of course
# [04:09] <dougt> khuey: please stop. these hurt me so bad.
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# [04:09] <dougt> how can anyone write shit like this.
# [04:10] <@khuey> I'm pretty sure the second is intentional satire
# [04:10] <@khuey> of how bad this shit usually is
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# [04:10] <dougt> khuey: this is why I can't watch tv.
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# [04:12] <@dolske> t... v?
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# [04:18] <philor> looks like things went quite well in my absence
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# [04:25] <jld> roc: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G/Profiling#Profiling_with_perf.281.29
# [04:25] <jld> roc: ...but you mention 1.1; is that different from v1-train now?
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# [04:26] <@ehsan> philor: quite so!
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# [04:29] <mwu> jld: 1.1 = v1-train at the moment
# [04:29] <jld> roc: Ignore previous question. (-:
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# [04:33] <@roc> thanks
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# [04:33] <@roc> when are you going to get this stuff merged?
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# [04:33] <jld> roc: That is a fascinating question, in that it assumes that I can get this stuff merged.
# [04:34] <@roc> err
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# [04:35] <@roc> I think we discussed this but I can't remember what the issues were
# [04:35] <jld> roc: The modified gcc is a cause of concern, and there's also bug 870639.
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# [04:36] <jld> roc: And the inability to trace across vendor binaries or assembly.
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# [04:37] <jld> roc: ...that last is not so much a thing that inhibits merging directly, but it's around as a kind of "and even if we did, we'd still..." thing.
# [04:37] <@roc> sure
# [04:37] <@roc> vendor binaries are going to suck
# [04:37] <@roc> assembly can be fixed if particular chunks turn out to be a problem, I assume
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# [04:38] <@roc> hopefully closed-source vendor binaries can be reduced over time
# [04:38] <@roc> they don't worry me for now
# [04:39] <@bz> Man
# [04:39] <@bz> Navigator is not cycle-collected????
# [04:39] <@bz> wtf?
# [04:39] <@roc> what about modified gcc? we're already shipping a gcc build in the B2G repo, so what's the big deal with changing it?
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# [04:42] <jld> roc: I could try to summarize the situation as I understand it, but (at the risk of putting people on the spot) I think I should let mwu comment on this directly.
# [04:43] <philor> someone is leaking a NrIceResolver::PendingResolution!
# [04:43] <@roc> ok, it's probably not worth bothering you about that,so don't worry about it
# [04:43] <mwu> roc: the gcc build comes from upstream
# [04:43] <mwu> we'll probably switch to our own toolchain for 1.2, but we're currently on stock aosp gcc for 1.1
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# [04:46] <@bz> So this is interesting
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# [04:46] <@bz> even ccache hits on webidl stuff are slower than normal files....
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# [04:48] <@bz> we seem to have manual cycle-breaking for Navigator or something
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# [05:37] <romaxa_ms> what is the difference between checkin+ flag on patch and checkin-needed keyword?
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# [05:38] <@gavin> romaxa_ms: checkin+ means the patch has been checked-in
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# [05:44] <romaxa_ms> gavin: and checkin? ~ checkin-needed keyword?
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# [05:47] <@dolske> I... don't think I've ever seen someone use checkin?
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# [05:49] <philor> three reasons for checkin? - you need someone in particular to check it in, you have a hideously complex pile of patches and you want to make it clear which ones need to land, you want to see whether or not RyanVM's query actually covers checkin?
# [05:50] <philor> I've seen it used for "if I addressed your review comments correctly, could you check this in?" and "since this needs to land along with your patch in that other bug, check them both in at once?"
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# [05:55] <philor> wow, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Automated_testing#Talos_%28T%29 is even more out of date than our usual standard for "a list of talos suites"
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# [06:05] <annevk> E.g. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM_Levels is not at all accurate anymore
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# [06:33] <cpearce> so, mozilla::AtomicRefCounted<T> is the threadsafe variant of mozilla::RefCounted<T> right?
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# [06:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65e7eb47b5a2 - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 884649 (part 1) - Used PLDHash instead of JSDHash in xpconnect. r=mccr8.
# [06:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5900380df45d - Nicholas Nethercote - Bug 884649 (part 2) - Remove jsdhash.{h,cpp}. r=luke.
# [06:49] <@dolske> oooh. I love the new C rocket-operator! for (i = 10; 0 <=~~-- i;) { ... }
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# [06:51] <markh> is setting a docshell's isActive=false enough to ensure that things loaded by it have a low network priority?
# [06:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89cceb4bb3db - Benoit Girard - Bug 865824 - Add Layers unit test. r=milan
# [06:52] <@bz_sleep> markh: no
# [06:53] <markh> yeah, mxr was trying to slowly tell me that too.
# [06:53] <@gavin> markh: though note http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/modules/NetworkPrioritizer.jsm
# [06:53] <@gavin> which kinda does that for firefox tabs
# [06:53] <markh> ahh - cool
# [06:54] <markh> gavin: yeah, that looks like what I need, thanks
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# [06:55] <markh> well - what I *think* I need - which is subtly different ;)
# [06:56] <@roc> "has anybody else noticed that Apple's new headquarters are LITERALLY a walled garden?"
# [06:56] <jcranmer|away> but they're the prettiest walled garden on the planet
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# [07:00] <markh> gavin: so you think I should be looking to decrease it to the same as the "inactive" tabs, or even a little bit lower than that?
# [07:01] <markh> hmm
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# [07:01] <markh> I'm not sure yet where the baseline is...
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# [08:30] <markh> Unfocused: forEach must have upset you very badly in the past...
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# [08:30] <Unfocused> :)
# [08:30] <markh> were you dating for a while? :)
# [08:31] <Unfocused> ssshhhh
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# [08:44] <darktrojan> forEach is ugly, for ... of is where it's at
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# [08:46] <JonathanS> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/forEach callback :/
# [08:46] <JonathanS> We need to go deeper on functions.
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# [09:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c1ae670a995 - Josh Matthews - Bug 883495 - Avoid releasing a scriptable DNS listener off the main thread. r=mcmanus
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# [09:29] <evilpie> forEach with arrow functions looks ok
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# [09:50] <Six> jdm: are you there?
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# [09:52] <tbsaunde> probably not if he is where I think he is its about 04:00
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# [09:56] <Six> tbsaunde: ok thanks :)
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# [10:30] <gcp> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Aurora
# [10:30] <gcp> android 4.0 rc2 orange is strange
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# [10:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/96036434bb78 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 875289 - Renaming Future to Promise, r=mounir
# [10:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80732a2b8422 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 875289 - Remove .done() and allow undefined to be passed to .then() and .catch(), r=mounir
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# [11:11] <darkowlzz> hi, if there is a change in FF UI (eg: shape of tabs), does that means it's coming from changes in XUL components?
# [11:13] <Gijs> darkowlzz: not necessarily.
# [11:14] <darkowlzz> Gijs, it's FF UI fully based on XUL?
# [11:14] <darkowlzz> *isn't
# [11:14] <Gijs> Yes.
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# [11:15] <Gijs> And XBL.
# [11:15] <Gijs> And CSS. And JS. And some sprinklings of SVG.
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# [11:16] <Gijs> But when we change Firefox-specific stuff, that doesn't always mean we'll change the 'basic' XUL or XBL components. We have our 'own' stuff for quite a bit of Firefox's UI.
# [11:16] <Gijs> However, you asked a very general question, so I'm not sure this answer is useful/correct without more explanations from you about what you want to know.
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# [11:17] <darkowlzz> Gijs, I was wondering how is the XUL of FF running? Is it running on XULrunner?
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# [11:32] <paul> darkowlzz: exact same code base. You can even use Firefox the same way you use XulRunner. See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options#-app_.2Fpath.2Fto.2Fapplication.ini
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# [11:34] <darkowlzz> paul, so when I compile mozilla-central, I am also compiling xulrunner?
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# [11:35] <darkowlzz> oh! compiling exact same code base
# [11:36] <paul> darkowlzz: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Configuring_Build_Options#Choose_an_Application
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# [11:40] <Yoric> !seen dolske
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# [11:41] <darkowlzz> paul, thanks :)
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# [11:42] <capella> which one? desktop or mobile?
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# [12:03] <Yoric> Does anyone know how I could try and set a third-party cookie from a mochitest?
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# [12:04] <Gijs> Why don't keypress events in an autocomplete box show up in an ancestor's system event listener looking for a keypress event? :(
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# [12:05] <@smaug> Gijs: what is the ancestor?
# [12:05] <@smaug> and does something call stopPropagation() in system group before your listener
# [12:05] <Gijs> smaug: panel. But I just realized this was user error, let me retry now that I've corrected a fubar I made, sorry!
# [12:06] <Gijs> smaug: although I'd still be interested if XBL methods (onkeypress) automatically use the system group or not
# [12:06] <@smaug> it does not
# [12:06] <@smaug> there is an attribute to use system group
# [12:06] <Yoric> Do I understand correctly that all the locations of server-locations.txt are actually resolved to the mochitest server?
# [12:08] <@smaug> Gijs: I think group="system"
# [12:08] <Gijs> smaug: good to know, thanks! :)
# [12:08] <gabor> smaug: do you know if we still supposed to use these JS_TRUE, JS_FALSE macros these days?
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# [12:09] <Standard8> what time do the nightly builds start?
# [12:09] <@smaug> gabor: I don't know. At least for null, nullptr should be used even with JS API
# [12:09] <@smaug> gabor: ask #jsapi
# [12:10] <gabor> smaug: Ok, thanks anyway
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# [12:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46e6080dcdd4 - Max Li - Bug 785852 - Support editing mode navigation in Jelly Bean. r=eeejay r=kats
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# [12:16] <Gijs> Standard8: 2am PDT, I thiiiiink? edmorley would know for sure.
# [12:17] <edmorley> 3am pst
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# [12:17] <edmorley> on the last push with all green builds
# [12:17] <edmorley> they've started on 8ea92aeab783
# [12:18] <edmorley> I can cancel/retrigger on tip if that would help
# [12:19] <Yoric> ehsan: Writing a mochitest for third-party cookies looks much more complicated than the xpcshell test. Which might just explain why there doesn't seem to be any on m-c.
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# [12:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf5031737e46 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 96036434bb78 (bug 875289) for mochitest-chrome failures on a CLOSED TREE
# [12:21] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2266ccdba6d7 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 80732a2b8422 (bug 875289)
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# [13:14] <froydnj> Yoric: yes, a bunch of domains just get resolved to the mochitest http server
# [13:14] <Yoric> thanks
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# [13:22] <gaston> Callek: so 2.19b1 \o/
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# [13:26] <Yoric> froydnj: Is it normal to have lldb take 1+ minute when I call |bt all|?
# [13:27] <Yoric> (still in progress, btw)
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# [13:28] <Yoric> froydnj: It has opened 2800+ files (mostly .o from my objdir) and it keeps opening more.
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# [13:32] <Yoric> froydnj: Ah, and it takes 8Gb+ of RAM.
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# [13:33] <froydnj> Yoric: doesn't sound overly surprising
# [13:34] <froydnj> though I can debug firefox on my mini with 8GB of RAM, so...
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# [13:34] <Yoric> Well, that's just a little slow...
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# [13:35] <till> Yoric: the LLVM 3.3 version *might* make it better
# [13:35] <Yoric> I have LLDB-69.
# [13:35] <till> Yoric: sadly, I've been trying to get that to compile and install on my machine for hours now, without any luck
# [13:35] <till> wait, what?
# [13:36] <till> Yoric: that is ... old
# [13:36] <Yoric> Yeah, courtesy of MacOS X.
# [13:36] <Yoric> Is lldb part of some macports package.
# [13:36] <Yoric> ?
# [13:36] <till> Well, but the version that comes with the current XCode is LLDB-179.5
# [13:36] <Yoric> Or should I grab it from the web page?
# [13:37] <till> I don't know - I gave up on Macports ages ago
# [13:37] <Yoric> Ah, well, I guess I should upgrade XCode.
# [13:37] <Yoric> How do I do it these days?
# [13:37] <till> Homebrew, sadly, doesn't have a package, either
# [13:37] <Yoric> Does it still need my credit card number?
# [13:37] <till> Which OS version?
# [13:37] <till> no
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# [13:38] <till> Yoric: On 10.8, you can just update it via that App Store-Thing
# [13:39] <Yoric> I'm using 10.7.
# [13:39] <Yoric> Let's try if that AppStore thing still works.
# [13:39] <till> It should
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# [13:41] <Yoric> Unrelated question: is there (still?) a simple way to map a IID to its human-readable idl name?
# [13:42] <Yoric> i.e. what idl has iid 0x0000000104d80340?
# [13:42] <till> That, I know nothing about. At all.
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# [13:46] <tbsaunde> Yoric: I think there might be something on Components.interfaces
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# [13:49] <decoder> kcc will be looking at it then
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# [14:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a67425aa4728 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 878449 - Fixed mismatched CoInitialize call causing crash in JumpList. r=padenot.
# [15:00] <Six> bsmedberg: ping?
# [15:01] <@bsmedberg> Six: pong
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# [15:01] <bbondy> thx :)
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# [15:01] <Six> bsmedberg: i don't see the difference about your last comment on bug 744115
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# [15:02] <@bsmedberg> Six: what part? Do you understand the difference between the current thread and the target thread?
# [15:02] <Six> bsmedberg: you said i need to check the target thread, but mIsMainThread is about the current thread
# [15:02] <Six> bsmedberg: this part yes
# [15:02] <@bsmedberg> Six: it's about the current nsThread object
# [15:02] <@bsmedberg> it's not about the current actual thread
# [15:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c21f4e5561bb - Markus Stange - Bug 875335 - When using OMTC, always recomposite when viewWillDraw is called because our WindowOverlay may have changed. r=mattwoodrow
# [15:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/381f39912071 - Markus Stange - Bug 875335 - Call NotifyDirtyRegion during viewWillDraw. r=mattwoodrow
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# [15:04] <Six> bsmedberg: ok so NS_IsMainThread() checks if the current actual thread is the main_thread, and mIsMainThread checks the current nsThread object?
# [15:04] <@bsmedberg> correct
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# [15:04] <Six> bsmedberg: this is why is did understood why NS_IsMainThread() was doing so much stuff to check that,...
# [15:04] <Six> *i did not
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# [15:05] <Six> bsmedberg: so i just have to do this MAIN_THREAD != mIsMainThread instead of !NS_IsMainThread()
# [15:06] <@bsmedberg> Six: I think just "!mIsMainThread"
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# [15:08] <@bsmedberg> can somebody remind me of the URL for performance graphs on inbound/central?
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# [15:09] <Six> bsmedberg: from what i see in nsThread.cpp, mIsMainThread is always compared to MAIN_THREAD, as it is an enum (which is kind of bool as there are just two values) i rather do an explicit condition in cases of futures modifications
# [15:10] <Six> but if you think "!mIsMainThread" is enough then ok :)
# [15:10] <@bsmedberg> well, huh
# [15:10] <@bsmedberg> I thought it was a bool
# [15:10] <Six> this is why i pointed out :)
# [15:10] <@bsmedberg> Six: do the correct thing. If it's an enum, compare it with a value. If it's a bool, use !
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# [15:10] <Six> ok thanks
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# [15:11] <@bsmedberg> edmorley: ^^ do you know the perf thing?
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# [15:19] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [15:20] <edmorley> bsmedberg: sorry router froze, needed restart
# [15:21] <edmorley> bsmedberg: the links to the graphs can be found be clicking on the relevant talos job type on TBPL, and looking in the lower UI panel
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# [15:21] <edmorley> there will be links to both the datazilla version and the old graphs.m.o graphs
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# [15:30] <@bsmedberg> edmorley: is there a tutorial on how to use datazilla? I feel to stupid to understand how it can help me.
# [15:31] <Ms2ger> Fallen, is there a way to set a max-with on the events pane in lightning?
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# [15:31] <Fallen> Ms2ger: you mean the today pane on the right?
# [15:32] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [15:32] <Ms2ger> Well, today/tomorrow/soon
# [15:33] <Fallen> Ms2ger: #today-pane-panel { max-width: 300px; } in your userChrome.css
# [15:34] <Ms2ger> Ta
# [15:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bca4f298207c - Joe Drew - Bug 867774 - Rename the helper HTML pages as suggested by reviewer. r=seth
# [15:34] * Ms2ger wonders which of the default profiles is his profile
# [15:35] <joe> Ms2ger: "ehsan"
# [15:35] <Ms2ger> Neither, apparently
# [15:35] * Ms2ger wonders what signons.txt is
# [15:35] <Ms2ger> Last touched 2009-10-17 11:30
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# [15:37] <till> Ms2ger: that's part of the NSA's surveillance stuff installed on your computer
# [15:37] <Ms2ger> till, then they haven't done much lately...
# [15:37] <till> Ms2ger: and no, the last touched date isn't real
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# [15:37] <till> Ms2ger: they're cunning like that
# [15:37] <Ms2ger> Noooo
# [15:37] <till> sadly, yes
# [15:37] <Ms2ger> Fallen++
# [15:37] <Fallen> yay, karma!
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# [15:38] <Fallen> signons.txt used to be what the password manager used, afaik
# [15:38] <Ms2ger> Now I just need to find a way to make my overlong events text-wrap :)
# [15:38] <Ms2ger> Got magic for that too?
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# [15:39] <Fallen> thats a bit harder, I believe there is a but we wanted to fix there.
# [15:39] <Fallen> Ms2ger: week or month view?
# [15:39] <Fallen> or the today pane?
# [15:40] <Ms2ger> Yeah, the same pane
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# [15:41] <edmorley> bsmedberg: sorry there isn't yet, they're still mid-switchover from graphs.m.o. jeads is the best person to ask for any questions
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# [15:43] <Cork> is there something we want to try to get from a user that crashes with https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0300f3e1-3740-4ebf-b60c-07ac32130620 ?
# [15:43] <Cork> i have him in the #firefox channel right now
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# [15:43] <sachin_h> I'm writing a command line handler for a new flag for Firefox. While handling the flag, is there a way to check if there is an instance of Firefox of a particular profile already open?
# [15:43] <Gijs> Enn: ping
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# [15:52] <@bsmedberg> ted: who should I ask about the talos setup these days? I have a Talos regression that may be affected by the configuration of the blocklist while running Talos
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# [15:53] <@ted> bsmedberg: jmaher is a good starting point
# [15:53] <@bsmedberg> jmaher: ping ;-)
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# [16:00] <Fallen> Ms2ger: this patch, but it will probably break the layout for the allday event containers in the normal views: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2545951
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# [16:01] <Ms2ger> Fallen, I think I can live with it, then :)
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# [16:01] <Ms2ger> Fallen, thanks :)
# [16:01] <Fallen> I might find time to fix it some day :)
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# [16:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c06217a1e3f3 - Olli Pettay - Bug 884296 - Remove the rest of the classinfos for DOM events, r=peterv
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# [16:21] <@ted> we don't have an equivalent to nsRunnableMethod that just takes a function pointer do we?
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# [16:23] <@ted> haha
# [16:23] <@ted> jorendorff: clearly we'd need a Factory for those
# [16:23] <jorendorff> well it costs 53 cents to buy one, and you have to store it in an nsIRunnableMethodFunctionPointerAdapterStorageDrawer if you want to reuse it later
# [16:23] <@ted> i feel like i saw someone having an implementation of that for a while
# [16:23] <jorendorff> also they don't work in Europe
# [16:23] <@ted> s/for a while/a while ago/
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# [16:24] <froydnj> nsIRunnableMEthodFunctionPointerAdapter12Hz
# [16:24] <@ted> really i just want RunThisOnTheMainThread(some_func)
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# [16:24] <padenot> ted: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsThreadUtils.h#371 ?
# [16:25] <@ted> padenot: i saw that, it's not quite what i want
# [16:25] <@ted> i don't have an object
# [16:25] <@ted> i just want to call a function
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# [16:26] <Six> ehsan: ping?
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# [16:26] <padenot> ted: an opportunity to add a new function everybody will thank you for, then!
# [16:27] <@ted> i should probably just write it, shouldn't i
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# [16:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/415afe797a6e - Hannes Verschore - Bug 883686: IonBuilder: Clean up the block upon removal, r=sstangl
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# [16:39] <baku> Ms2ger, should HTMLImageElement find ancestor form? Probably not...
# [16:39] <@bz> baku: what do you mean?
# [16:40] <baku> bz, with the new patches, HTMLImageElement receives a form pointer if it's part of it.
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# [16:40] <baku> but if it's null, we do: FindAncestorForm()
# [16:40] <@bz> yes
# [16:41] <@bz> We should have tests ensuring that we do
# [16:41] <@bz> <form><div/></form>
# [16:41] <baku> ok
# [16:41] <@bz> div.appendChild(img)
# [16:41] <baku> ok
# [16:41] <@bz> that img needs to show up on the form, right?
# [16:41] <baku> absolutely.
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# [16:42] <@bz> which is what FindAncestorForm does for us
# [16:42] <@bz> afaict
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# [16:45] <decoder> froydnj: it's wonderful. I cannot even repro the crash locally with the patch
# [16:46] <froydnj> decoder: even better
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# [16:53] <@ted> BenWa: okay, i got events working for starting the profiler and saving a profile on windows
# [16:54] <BenWa> Cool :)
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# [16:54] <@ted> not a lot of code
# [16:54] <@ted> of course, now i realize that doing something *useful* with a profile in a test harness is probably a lot more work
# [16:54] <BenWa> ted: Maybe we should add a script that will detect the platform and given a PID will either send a signal or a windows event?
# [16:55] <@ted> yeah, that would not be very hard
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# [16:55] <@ted> do we only have those signal handlers available on android?
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# [16:55] <@ted> that's what it looks like from the code
# [16:55] <BenWa> ted: Right. That really is the hard problem
# [16:55] <BenWa> ted: Yes, we use that for Eideticker
# [16:55] <@ted> ah
# [16:55] <@ted> mm
# [16:56] <Six> ehsan: hi
# [16:56] <@ted> so i kind of would like to solve this
# [16:56] <@ted> in general
# [16:56] <@ted> right now when we have tests that hang we try to kill the process to generate a minidump
# [16:56] <@ted> but that kind of sucks
# [16:56] <@ted> ideally we'd generate a profile instead
# [16:56] <@ted> i guess that could be hard if the process is really truly hung
# [16:56] <@ted> (if the main thread is not responding)
# [16:57] <BenWa> ted: Your betting on the test doing some useful work and not waiting idly for something that will never happen right? Because if that's the case the profile will just show idle time
# [16:57] <BenWa> ted: Well signals preempt. What about windows event?
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# [16:57] <@ted> we will probably get the event, but it's on a background thread
# [16:58] <@ted> and AFAICT I can't start the profiler from a background thread?
# [16:58] <@ted> at least, i got assertions when i tried to do that
# [16:58] <kats> ekr: ping
# [16:58] <ekr> kats: yes?
# [16:58] <kats> ekr: about your comment on bug 883646, can you provide a screenshot or photo of what you're seeing?
# [16:58] <BenWa> ted: Right, you can't save the profile either. We could fix the starting and the stopping bit I imagine but I don't know how hard it would be
# [16:59] <@ted> yeah
# [16:59] <ekr> kats: sure. is there a convenient method for doing that on a phone?
# [16:59] <@ted> so maybe this is a pipe dream
# [16:59] <ekr> or do I just take a picture with my iphone
# [16:59] <BenWa> So let's assume we can post a message to the main thread for now
# [16:59] <jcranmer> ted: *bop*
# [16:59] <@ted> okay'
# [16:59] <@ted> the code works, i got a profile out
# [16:59] <jcranmer> ted: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7a159e3dad7b is broken if MOZ_MEDIA_MANAGER is not defined
# [16:59] <BenWa> ted: Do we get minidump/backtraces for those platforms when we hang?
# [16:59] <kats> ekr: not sure. if you have another device with a camera you can just take a photo
# [16:59] <@ted> BenWa: "depends"
# [17:00] <BenWa> Err I guess it would be windows. Do we have a backtrace for some of these hangs?
# [17:00] <ekr> kats: sure. I was just wondering if there was a "take a snapshot of my own screen" gesture like iOS has.
# [17:00] <kats> ekr: there probably is but i don't know what it is
# [17:00] <ekr> ok. ETA a few minutes :)
# [17:00] <@ted> jcranmer: sorry, how?
# [17:00] <@ted> BenWa: no, for other reasons
# [17:01] <jcranmer> ted: the gamepad stuff you added expects nsGlobalWindow.h to be included
# [17:01] <@ted> there's not a straightforward way to trigger breakpad from outside the process
# [17:01] <@ted> so we inject code in to crash it
# [17:01] <BenWa> Alright if we had that then we would have a good idea if a profile would give us more data
# [17:01] <@ted> jcranmer: oh, but that local_includes is inside an ifdef?
# [17:01] <jcranmer> ted: but that file is only pulling in nsGlobalWindow.h via MediaManager.h, which is only pulled in if MOZ_MEDIA_MANAGER is defined
# [17:01] <@ted> jcranmer: ah
# [17:01] <@ted> jcranmer: sorry
# [17:01] <BenWa> ted: Why not send a windows event and have it do a segfault?
# [17:02] <BenWa> anyways sorry going off topic
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# [17:02] <@ted> BenWa: that would be pretty simple, maybe we should just do that
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# [17:02] <@ted> i don't know, i just never thought to do it that way :)
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# [17:03] <BenWa> ted: Well it might be worth a shot. If this gives us a dump where we're waiting on events I doubt getting a profile will give us more data.
# [17:03] <@ted> yeah
# [17:03] <@khuey> googling for "can't access dead object" makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
# [17:03] <@ted> true
# [17:03] <@khuey> so many prevented leaks
# [17:03] <Yoric> khuey: :)
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# [17:04] <BenWa> ted: Well up to you. Improving the profile collection ability is a win for perf as well.
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# [17:04] <@ted> indeed
# [17:04] <@ted> i'll put this patch up
# [17:04] <@ted> it needs a little bit of cleanup but you can take a look
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# [17:05] <Six> ehsan: i am reading bug 883360 and it looks like you said that this should not be added? am i right?
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# [17:06] <Six> ehsan: or should we add it very carefully?
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# [17:06] <@ehsan> Six: did you read the link I pointed to?
# [17:06] <@khuey> BenWa: is there a bugzilla component for the profiler?
# [17:07] <@ted> BenWa: the event to crash is a nice idea, i should just do that
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# [17:07] <BenWa> khuey: 'Gecko Profiler'
# [17:07] <BenWa> Core::
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# [17:07] <@khuey> ah
# [17:07] <@khuey> Gecko
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# [17:07] <@ted> our current impl is crappy because it relies on having an external process to inject code
# [17:07] <Six> ehsan: yep i tried to really understand it, but i'm ganno need to test the examples to really see how it works but i guess i understood the main point
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# [17:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1433cdfd1a43 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 751205 - (Part 3) Factor out arrow/anchor positioning code to ArrowPopup. r=wesj
# [17:07] <Six> *gonna
# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfe598caed73 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 751205 - (Part 1) Refactor site identity popup and doorhanger popup to use common arrow panel container. r=wesj
# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb01c197c682 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 751205 - (Part 4) Rename resources to be more generic for arrow popups. r=sriram
# [17:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b17a76cd79a - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 751205 - (Part 2) Un-singleton-ify SiteIdentityPopup. r=wesj
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# [17:08] <BenWa> ted: Maybe we will get the profiler stuff later. I'm sure the need for it will come up later :). You should land the event patch for starting the profiler at least
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# [17:09] <@ted> jcranmer: anyway, get a dom peer to r+ that one line change
# [17:09] <@ehsan> Six: see the reusable solution section: http://www.artima.com/cppsource/safebool3.html
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# [17:10] <@ehsan> Six: the basic idea is returning a function pointer which can be used for bool checking
# [17:10] <@ehsan> but won't convert to integers
# [17:10] <Six> ehsan: ok so we are allowed to add the bool() method using this way
# [17:13] <BenWa> nical: http://benoitgirard.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/using-visual-studio-2010-ide/ A bit outdated. Let me know if I should make edits since people are still reading this
# [17:14] <@ehsan> Six: no, you should do that instead of operator bool()
# [17:14] <@ehsan> Six: please read the article once more, I believe it's clear
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# [17:16] <Six> ehsan: sorry i didn't explain myself corectly... i got it thanks :)
# [17:16] <@ehsan> np :)
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# [17:19] <nical> BenWa: thanks
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# [17:35] <ekr> kats: see bug 883646 for (low res) picture
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# [17:36] <@khuey> oh wow
# [17:36] <@khuey> Huawei is considering buying Nokia?
# [17:36] <kats> ekr: thanks!
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> Apparently
# [17:36] <Ms2ger> And MS tried but failed
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# [17:37] <kats> ekr: that's interesting because i would have expected it to be off by a factor of two but that is definitely not two
# [17:37] <ekr> kats: no, it's not
# [17:38] <ekr> I don't know what the resolution of these is
# [17:38] <kats> ekr: and you're running mozilla-central on it?
# [17:38] <ekr> kats: yeah, I updated this AM
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# [17:39] <kats> i guess the peak might be using a 1.5 scale, i don't know what the actual dpi is on the device
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# [17:40] <kats> they don't say on their website :(
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# [17:43] <ekr> it says qhd
# [17:43] <ekr> 960x540?
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# [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23bcbbbfd5a0 - Brad Lassey - bug 884792 - crash in nsXPCWrappedJS::Release, removeObserver being called off main thread r=kats
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# [17:46] <Yoric> "free-space clobber"?
# [17:46] <Yoric> Does that mean there's some maintenance in progress on tbpl?
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# [17:46] <kats> hmm that sounds like around 256 dpi, so probably 1.5 scale
# [17:46] <kats> that makes sense at least
# [17:46] <Ms2ger> Yoric, no
# [17:46] <philor> "some other job needed disk space, and removed the objdir for this job to get it"
# [17:47] <Yoric> philor: interesting
# [17:47] <philor> at some random time between when this slave last did this particular job and now
# [17:47] <kats> ekr: unfortunately i'll need to get my hands on a device before i can debug the problem. i've ordered one, not sure when i'll get it
# [17:47] <ekr> I just tried to run Bananabread against Nightly and Firefox chews up all the CPU and gives me a SPOD
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# [17:47] <ekr> Suggestions about where to file the bug?
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# [17:47] <Yoric> Ms2ger: philor: So what should I do?
# [17:47] <RyanVM> nothing
# [17:47] <Yoric> Because that seems to have happened while I was building.
# [17:47] <RyanVM> huh?
# [17:48] <Yoric> Ah, maybe not.
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# [17:48] <Yoric> Maybe it's just the error message that's unclear.
# [17:48] <bkero> win 49
# [17:48] <Yoric> I need to double-check.
# [17:48] <philor> no, it's just saying that your build was a clobber because of that, rather than being a clobber because it was set to clobber
# [17:48] <RyanVM> free-space clobber should have nothing to do with whatever errors you're having
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# [17:49] <mwu> kats: do you have a request in service now?
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# [17:49] <mwu> and is it approved
# [17:49] <kats> mwu: yeah
# [17:49] <kats> and yeah
# [17:50] <kats> i filed the request yesterday
# [17:50] <ekr> kats: np.
# [17:50] <kats> and i got the approval email yesterday too
# [17:50] <ekr> LMK if you want me to measure more stuff
# [17:50] <mwu> great
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# [17:50] <kats> ekr: thanks
# [17:50] <mwu> dunno if we can expedite it somehow. it's blocking you from fixing a blocker
# [17:50] <ekr> no, thank you for working on it :)
# [17:50] <mwu> kats: alternately, will forcing a 1.5x scale work for you?
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# [17:51] <ekr> kats: I am in Palo Alto, so if you can get the people in MtV to give it up, I could probably drive down and fedex it to you
# [17:51] <mwu> also if you have any WVGA devices, they're also 1.5x scale
# [17:51] <mwu> so a sgs2 or nexus s will work, assuming they start at all
# [17:51] <Yoric> It is weird, though, that my code fails to build because of a configure error.
# [17:51] <kats> mwu: that's a good idea, i can force a 1.5x scale on my unagi and see if that works
# [17:51] <Yoric> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10.0 gtk+-unix-print-2.0 glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 gdk-x11-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
# [17:51] <kats> ekr: no need, i'm sure i'll get one soon enough
# [17:52] <Yoric> Given that my patch only touches mozStorage.
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# [17:52] <ekr> kats: OK, I'm just on a phone acquiring rampage
# [17:52] <kats> heh
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# [17:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84855cdd91da - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 851982 - Make ISO-2022-JP decoder reliable. r=smontagu
# [17:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1d09117491f - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 851982 - Regression test. r=smontagu
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# [18:05] * NeilAway idly wonders whether Yoric found Components.interfacesByIID['{00000000-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}'].name
# [18:06] <luke> i forget, who can i ping to request we grant the canconfirm to sunfish@google.com ?
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# [18:06] <Ms2ger> Half of this channel, I guess
# [18:07] <Ms2ger> Traditionally gerv
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# [18:07] <luke> half the channel: ping re: above
# [18:08] * Ms2ger spins the wheel
# [18:08] <Ms2ger> ted?
# [18:08] <luke> weee
# [18:08] <@ted> what
# [18:08] <Ms2ger> Can you grant canconfirm?
# [18:08] <@ted> yes
# [18:08] <@ted> but i thought bz just fixed that
# [18:08] <Ms2ger> He did?
# [18:09] <@ted> <bz> I gave sunfish editbugs, fwiw
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# [18:09] <luke> i am sooo 6 hours ago
# [18:09] <Ms2ger> Excellent
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# [18:10] <@ted> luke: for future reference, yes, i can grant editbugs
# [18:10] <@ted> as apparently can bz
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# [18:11] <@ted> i don't actually know an exhaustive list of people with editeditbugs
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# [18:11] <luke> ted: i'd like editeditbugs...
# [18:11] <Ms2ger> Who has editediteditbugs?
# [18:12] <@ted> i can't grant that, i'm not a meta-genie
# [18:12] <luke> ted: hah, is that what's called?
# [18:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c9455df0575c - Hannes Verschore - Bug 884310 - IonMonkey: Inline function called from .call(), r=jandem
# [18:12] <@ted> luke: no, just a GEB joke :-P
# [18:12] <luke> ted: ohhhh, right
# [18:13] <@ted> i can't even remember who gave me the "grant editbugs" privs, maybe shaver?
# [18:13] <@ted> if it's actually something that'd be useful to you it's proably not that hard to get
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# [18:14] <@ted> apparently timeless gave my account editbugs back in 2002
# [18:14] <@ted> doesn't actually show me when i got the right to grant editbugs
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# [18:16] <NeilAway> ted++
# [18:17] <NeilAway> for reading GEB
# [18:17] <@ted> took me two tries, like 7 years apart
# [18:17] <@ted> "i am a strange loop" is easier
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# [18:18] <nemo> ted: love his books. traded my prof my copy of GEB for Metamagical Themas which I hadn't read yet
# [18:18] <nemo> hrm or was it Le Ton beau de Marot
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# [18:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a473e89432f3 - Gian-Carlo Pascutto - Bug 881875 - Pref on WebRTC on Firefox for Android. r=blassey
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# [18:24] <gwagner> dcamp: ping
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# [18:25] <dcamp> gwagner: yo
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# [18:25] <gwagner> dcamp: hey. can you help out with bug 882760? seems like a regression from 878319
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# [18:26] <gwagner> dcamp: haven't seen jimb yet to ask him if he knows what's going on
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# [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f36a65f0146 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 860413 - Allow setting standard gamepad mapping. r=smaug
# [18:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c005a024c85 - Ted Mielczarek - bug 857092 - put non-standard Gamepad events behind another pref. r=smaug
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# [18:32] <dcamp> gwagner: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2546305
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# [18:32] <dcamp> gwagner: that might help?
# [18:32] <dcamp> that's the only thing I can think of that might be causing problems with that patch.
# [18:32] <gwagner> dcamp: ok will try it once I am in the office. thx!
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# [18:37] <timeless> hi ted :)
# [18:37] <@ted> hi :)
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# [18:41] <timeless> ted: so, if you want to
# [18:41] <timeless> you can go fishing to find out who can grant editbugs :)
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# [18:41] <timeless> it takes a bit of effort, since you're fishing blindly, but.. you can
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# [18:41] * @khuey can
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# [18:45] <@khuey> ted: do you need to give someone editbugs?
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# [18:46] <@ted> khuey: no, i can do that
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# [18:46] <@ted> we were just having a meta-conversation
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# [18:46] <timeless> yeah, the fun part is that there isn't logging on the grant-grant priv
# [18:46] <@khuey> ah
# [18:46] <timeless> that's a meta-known
# [18:46] <@ted> i can't remember who gave me the right to grant editbugs
# [18:46] <timeless> but again, not filed
# [18:46] <timeless> w/ a heck-of-a-lot-of-bugzilla-queries
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# [18:46] <@ted> editeditbugs
# [18:46] <timeless> you can find out the first time you used the bit :)
# [18:46] <@ted> editediteditbugs
# [18:46] <@khuey> I think I got it from gavin
# [18:47] <timeless> which can give you a sense of roughly who was active at the time
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# [18:47] <@ted> i believe it was shaver
# [18:47] <timeless> and if you're feeling like using a heck-of-a-heck-of-a-lot-more
# [18:47] <timeless> you can try to figure out who also started using the bit at the same time
# [18:47] <@dolske> "typhoid shaver", we used to call him.
# [18:47] <timeless> to guess roughly who may have been given the bit at the same time
# [18:48] <timeless> it's actually possible that it happened at Whistler
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# [18:48] <timeless> iirc i had someone (gerv?) give out grant to a bunch of people there
# [18:48] <timeless> but my memory is incredibly rusty :)
# [18:49] <timeless> dear Windows 7 [vm], won't you please paint something more than a moderate blue screen of waiting?
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# [18:52] <johan_> Hi, I'm looking for help on how to use libnss in my application, would this be a good place to ask developer questions?
# [18:53] * Mook_as suspects https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-crypto would be more productive
# [18:53] <@khuey> yeah you're unlikely to find the NSS folks on IRC
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# [18:54] <@gavin> there are a bunch of people in #nss
# [18:54] <johan_> okay, it involves trusting a certificate from an unknown issuer and using a smart card reader via pkcs11
# [18:54] <johan_> I tried asking a few times on #nss but it's pretty dead
# [18:55] <johan_> thanks, I'll try dev-tech-crypto
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# [19:16] <philor> RyanVM: I clobbered android on inbound, dunno whether you want to bother touching CLOBBER or not
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# [19:19] <@khuey> don't touch CLOBBER
# [19:19] <@khuey> we hates it
# [19:19] <@khuey> it took the precious
# [19:19] <RyanVM> heh
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# [19:21] <RyanVM> philor: I'm not going to bother. I'll clobber m-c/birch/fx-team before the next merge, though
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# [19:21] <sfink> we could make CLOBBER be a shell script that you run to do whatever is necessary to allow an incremental build (eg deleting a subdir of your objdir, but falling back to nuking the whole objdir)
# [19:21] <@bz> khuey: lol
# [19:21] <sfink> that'd be fun
# [19:21] <bholley> ted: do xpcshell-tests get all.js and so on?
# [19:22] <sfink> especially when you update across multiple CLOBBERs
# [19:22] <@bz> khuey: Coming from just finishing The Two Towers, the Gollum reference is particularly funny.
# [19:22] <@ted> i...have no idea
# [19:22] <@ted> bholley: that depends on whether xpcshell does
# [19:22] <bholley> ted: well, that depends on the whether you pass it the appropriate flags, I think
# [19:23] <@ted> well, i can point you at where we init xpcshell
# [19:23] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/xpcshell/runxpcshelltests.py#205
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# [19:24] <@ted> hoo boy that's a lot of args
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# [19:24] <Pike> was there a better way to get to a list of bugs from a query result than copy-n-paste?
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# [19:26] <@smaug> Pike: what kind of list? CSV is quite handy
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# [19:27] <Pike> smaug: I try to get to a snapshot of a bugquery, that just lists the IDs as the regular html page
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# [19:36] <@khuey> so much stuff I don't have to type
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# [19:38] <tanvi> smaug - ping
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# [19:42] <@smaug> tanvi: pong
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# [19:44] <tanvi> smaug - you dont think we should use document destroy or docshell destroy for the telemetery?
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# [19:45] <@smaug> tanvi: well, dtor of a document may give rather random results
# [19:45] <tanvi> smaug - if we use the setter the way you proposed, then we will over count on pages that have both mixed active and mixed passive content
# [19:45] <@smaug> tanvi: since window nor docshell may not be there anymore
# [19:45] <ddahl> smaug: we are trying to get the very last value in the mixedcontent getters
# [19:45] <@smaug> hmm
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# [19:46] <ddahl> and only one value per page load
# [19:46] <tanvi> a page my load with mixed passive. the load will complete, and the user will start interacting with the page. the interaction may cause a mixed active load.
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# [19:46] <tanvi> we want to capture that as 1 page and want to capture both the active and passive flags. so thats why we decided to try the destructor
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# [19:46] <tanvi> after talking to jst
# [19:47] <tanvi> jst said that sometimes we might miss pages (like on browser shutdown, the destroy function might not be able to report to telemetry). but that isn't a huge deal
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# [19:50] <@smaug> ddahl: tanvi: well, could we add a flag to document that it is a top level content document
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# [19:50] <@smaug> then in the dtor update telemetry
# [19:50] <ddahl> ah
# [19:50] <ddahl> smaug: sounds good
# [19:51] <ddahl> how do you determine top level content doc?
# [19:51] <@smaug> ddahl: so check where mContainer is set
# [19:51] <@smaug> you had that part in the dtor
# [19:51] <ddahl> smaug: ah
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# [19:51] <@smaug> ddahl: er, it is called mDocumentContainer
# [19:52] <ddahl> so if there exists an mDocumentContainer property you are in a top level doc?
# [19:53] <@smaug> ddahl: no
# [19:53] <@smaug> ddahl: it just tells that you are or have been in a docshell
# [19:53] <@smaug> it is the docshell
# [19:53] <@smaug> then using that docshell you can find the topmost
# [19:54] <tanvi> yeah, we can find the rootDoc
# [19:54] <ddahl> smaug: ok
# [19:54] <tanvi> smaug - i dont get what this means - ddahl: tanvi: well, could we add a flag to document that it is a top level content document
# [19:54] <tanvi> dont we already have flags on the rootdoc (the hasmixed flags)?
# [19:55] <tanvi> those are only set on the rootdoc
# [19:55] <@smaug> well, they are false elsewhere
# [19:55] <@smaug> you need to know which documents report to telemetry
# [19:55] <tanvi> ah right
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# [19:56] <tanvi> ddahl - so i think we change the PIDOMwindow lines and get the docshell from mDocumentContainer instead
# [19:57] <ddahl> tanvi: i think i will come up to SF after lunch
# [19:57] <tanvi> ddahl - we need to create a new getter/setter for isTopLevel and set isTopLevel in nsMixedContentBlocker.cpp
# [19:57] <ddahl> ah
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# [19:57] <tanvi> smaug - can we set isTopLevelDocument in nsMixedContentBlocker.cpp - or do you want us to set it somewhere else?
# [19:57] <gwagner> dcamp: nope that didn't fix it
# [19:57] <dcamp> hrm.
# [19:58] <dcamp> that's the only bug in the regression range?
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# [19:58] <@smaug> tanvi: might be useful to set it when document is bound to a docshell
# [19:58] <gwagner> yeah the revision before works
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# [19:59] <gwagner> dcamp: I will poke around a little bit. jimb do you have any idea about bug 882760?
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# [19:59] <dcamp> I really have no idea how that could affect things.
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# [20:00] <gwagner> do we have to register or package the new .js file or the jsm file?
# [20:01] <dcamp> maybe, I don't know how how b2g desktop packages that stuff
# [20:01] <dcamp> should be quick to check if the resource urls exist?
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# [20:01] <jimb> gwagner: If simply moving stuff into a .jsm breaks B2G, it's not just going to be us that's causing problems...
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# [20:02] <jimb> dcamp: looking at https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/24e9d3a53f8b
# [20:02] <gwagner> we have the shared global enabled on b2g
# [20:02] <jimb> dcamp: What part of that should even be loaded if they don't start the debugger?
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# [20:03] <dcamp> jimb: I'm just assuming that the debugger's loaded (they mention it only happens on a debug build)
# [20:03] <dcamp> because otherwise craziness.
# [20:03] <mfeeley> in chrome code, what's the best way to get a unique id for the OS process running firefox (PID would be fine)?
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# [20:05] <tanvi> smaug - you mean when the document is first created in the docshell?
# [20:05] <jimb> dcamp: I thought a "debug build" meant #define DEBUG, not something that affects what chrome gets run. There's more to it?
# [20:05] <@smaug> tanvi: well, when mDocumentContainer is set
# [20:05] <dcamp> jimb: I have no idea
# [20:05] <bajaj> jorendorff: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884156 , needs your input
# [20:06] <gwagner> jimb, dcamp: it's a gaia debug build.
# [20:06] <dcamp> jimb: this was free association - I know b2g desktop can enable the debug server (for app management) and I can't imagine this breaking things if the server isn't loaded.
# [20:06] <jorendorff> bajaj: thanks, i'll look at it right away
# [20:06] <tanvi> smaug - okay, let me check that out
# [20:06] <gwagner> I guess we are loading extra devtool files there
# [20:06] <bajaj> jorendorff: thank you :)
# [20:06] <dcamp> jimb: I'm sure he meant #define DEBUG, but I also wouldn't be surprised if loading the debug server is hidden behind such a flag :)
# [20:06] <jimb> gwagner: Okay.
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# [20:06] <dcamp> jimb: I do think we should loadSubScript into a temp var rather than 'this'
# [20:07] <dcamp> actually
# [20:07] <jimb> gwagner: The shared global is enabled on B2G because it's based on 18, which is pre-Zones, right?
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# [20:07] <dcamp> I don't even think that matters.
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# [20:07] <dcamp> anyway
# [20:07] <dcamp> I have no idea, so I'm going to graciously bow out
# [20:08] <gwagner> jimb: yeah 18 it pre-zones
# [20:08] <jimb> gwagner: and "shared global" means that the JSMs are loaded as function bodies, all within a shared global, right?
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# [20:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b124ffdeaf8 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 885024 - "ASSERTION: FindAncestorForm should not be called if @form is set!". r=bz
# [20:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b63312924ba - Daniel Holbert - Bug 885014 - Remove unused variable 'rv' in nsWebBrowser::EnableGlobalHistory. r=tbsaunde
# [20:08] <@gavin> (nit: shared global still exists on trunk now, zones didn't get rid of it AFAIK)
# [20:08] <gwagner> jimb: yeah they don't have a separate compartment. they all share one compartment/global
# [20:09] <jimb> gwagner: More 'orientation' questions: That patch landed on June 5. Why is it running against an 18 Gecko?
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# [20:09] <gwagner> jimb: so this is breaking master/trunk
# [20:09] <gwagner> we still have shared globals on master
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# [20:10] <jimb> gwagner: The Zone patch is present there; why are you still using shared globals (not questioning the decision, just want to understand the reasons)
# [20:10] <jimb> ?
# [20:11] <gwagner> jimb: I am not sure what the exact difference is here. khuey knows all about it :)
# [20:11] <@khuey> because nobody has actually done any measurements to see if zones actually saves us any memory
# [20:11] <jimb> khuey: ... that would be too bad if they don't. It would mean we majorly misdiagnosed the cause of compartments' overhead.
# [20:12] <@khuey> well, I would expect there to be some memory regression from turning off compartment sharing
# [20:12] <@khuey> since we're going to reintroduce CCWs
# [20:12] <@khuey> the question is whether or not it's significant
# [20:12] <@khuey> if we lose 10% of the win then meh whatever
# [20:13] <@khuey> if we lose 90% it's a problem
# [20:13] <@khuey> and nobody has measured it
# [20:14] <jimb> khuey: #jsapi (sfink) points me at: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/06/15/memshrinks-2nd-birthday/
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# [20:14] <jimb> Although: "In particular, it’s not clear if things have improved enough that many small JSMs can be used without wasting memory."
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# [20:15] <sfink> https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/03/20/memshrink-progress-week-91-92/ goes in a little more detail
# [20:15] <sfink> but that's not measuring what you care about
# [20:15] <@khuey> nobody has measured anything on the phone
# [20:15] <@khuey> which is the only thing we care about
# [20:15] <jimb> khuey: Can you explain to me, in simple language suitable for a small child, why this patch causes anyone any problems? https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/24e9d3a53f8b
# [20:15] <@khuey> since we're not sharing compartments anywhere else
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# [20:15] <jimb> khuey: Because I'm feeling stupider by the minute...
# [20:15] <sfink> yes
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# [20:16] <@khuey> jimb: are you at least going to tell me how it broke?
# [20:16] <@khuey> or do I have to guess?
# [20:17] <jimb> bug 797529 was the fix
# [20:17] <jimb> for something
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# [20:17] <jimb> I just said, "They say this fixes something, it doesn't seem bad, r+"
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# [20:18] <jimb> khuey: bug 882760 is the present difficulty
# [20:18] <tanvi> smaug - perhaps here? before a location is set - https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDocShell.cpp#7047
# [20:18] <gwagner> jgriffin: ping
# [20:18] <gwagner> hm maybe my bisecting found the wrong bug then?
# [20:19] <@khuey> oh god
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# [20:19] <jimb> khuey: All that changeset does is move a bunch of text into a .js file, and then make a .jsm that loadSubScripts that.
# [20:19] <@khuey> yeah
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# [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc2e2aff6206 - Dan Gohman - Bug 885182 - Align IonScript member data on 8-byte boundaries on 64-bit targets, to avoid misaligned memory references. r=mjrosenb
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# [20:22] <gwagner> khuey: do we have a pref that enables the sharing? it should be easy to test if I disable it
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# [20:22] <@khuey> gwagner: yeah, there's a pref
# [20:22] <@khuey> gwagner: but it's also hardcoded
# [20:22] <@khuey> :-P
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# [20:23] <@khuey> gwagner: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/xpconnect/loader/mozJSComponentLoader.cpp#439
# [20:23] <@khuey> make sure that's false
# [20:23] <gwagner> nobody is allowed to change a khuey pref...
# [20:23] <@khuey> gwagner: well there's some sort of crazy preferences race in the child
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# [20:23] <jimb> Isn't the difficulty here that the pref has effects visible at the JS level? So flipping the pref can break things.
# [20:24] <@khuey> flipping the pref can definitely break things
# [20:24] <gwagner> that't all in one process so it should be ok
# [20:24] <@khuey> but it's not live, you have to restart for it to have any effect
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# [20:25] <@khuey> jimb: so I'm not entirely sure what's going on here
# [20:26] <@khuey> jimb: I would be interested to know if removing the ', this' from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/devtools/DevToolsUtils.jsm#19 changes anything
# [20:27] <@khuey> jimb: but I would have to sit down in a debugger and figure out what's going on
# [20:27] <jimb> khuey: Okay. Let me fake up a shot-in-the-dark patch...
# [20:28] <gwagner> I can try it in a few min.
# [20:30] <jgriffin> gwagner: pong
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# [20:32] <gwagner> jgriffin: I found bug 878319 that is causing troubles with the gaia debug build.
# [20:32] <jimb> gwagner: http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2546672
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# [20:33] <gwagner> jgriffin: was this already resolved? jimb was talking about bug 797529 earlier
# [20:33] <gwagner> jimb: will try in a min
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# [20:34] <jgriffin> gwagner: 797529 only impacts Marionette's use of the debugger server
# [20:34] <jgriffin> but bug 878319 could cause problems independently of that … the problem you're seeing doesn't seem to have anything to do with Marionette
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# [20:35] <jimb> jgriffin: What sort of problems could 878319 cause?
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# [20:35] <jimb> jgriffin: I thought that was a safe reshuffling.
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# [20:36] <gwagner> ok so disabling global sharing doesn't help
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# [20:36] <jgriffin> I'm not sure really
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# [20:36] <jgriffin> I can try making a build without Marionette enabled, to see if Marionette is involved at all
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# [20:36] <gwagner> oh I see how it is hard-coded :)
# [20:37] <jimb> jgriffin: It's okay; let's let gwagner work through his possibilities first.
# [20:37] <gwagner> lets try again
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# [20:44] <gwagner> jimb: doesn't work with your pastebin
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# [20:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8cea4b4646ef - David Keeler - bug 700693 - OCSP stapling PSM changes r=bsmith
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# [20:48] <gwagner> khuey: and nothing changes if I remove the this from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/devtools/DevToolsUtils.jsm#19
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# [20:48] <@khuey> gwagner: ok
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# [20:48] <@khuey> break out the debugger!
# [20:49] <gwagner> khuey: you can have my linux laptop if you want
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# [20:50] <gwagner> everything should be set up
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# [21:02] <philor> RyanVM: orange
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# [21:03] * philor looks at all the things he's backed out before
# [21:03] <philor> and probably plenty more coming
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# [21:03] <froydnj> philor: that's a long list!
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# [21:07] <dholbert> RyanVM, (sorry if I midaired you on your possible-upcoming-backout; just noticed the "RyanVM: orange" here)
# [21:07] <RyanVM> np, I also pull -u before qbackout :)
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# [21:22] <firebot> more with feeling!
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# [21:31] <kats> dzbarsky: ping
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# [21:33] <bholley> bsmedberg: ping
# [21:33] <@bsmedberg> bholley: pong
# [21:33] <bholley> bsmedberg: got a few?
# [21:33] <@bsmedberg> sorta
# [21:34] <@bsmedberg> how urgent is it?
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# [21:34] <jimb> gwagner: *sigh* it was worth a try I guess
# [21:34] <bholley> bsmedberg: "blocks what I'm working on"
# [21:34] <@bsmedberg> ok
# [21:34] <bholley> bsmedberg: I'm basically confused about all the DirectoryProviders we have
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# [21:34] <bholley> bsmedberg: and how they relate to preferences, profiles, etc
# [21:34] <bholley> bsmedberg: are you the right person to talk to?
# [21:34] <@bsmedberg> god, I wish I weren't
# [21:34] <@bsmedberg> go on
# [21:35] <bholley> bsmedberg: I'm revamping the slow script watchdog
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# [21:35] <bholley> bsmedberg: on XPConnect startup, I want to:
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# [21:35] <bholley> 1) Check if the preferences have been loaded, and if not, delay (2)
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# [21:35] <bholley> 2) Read the preferences, and decide whether to turn on the watchdog thread
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# [21:36] <bholley> bsmedberg: I tried listening for profile-initial-state: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/xre/nsXREDirProvider.cpp#839
# [21:36] <bholley> bsmedberg: but that's nsXREDirProvider
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# [21:36] <bholley> bsmedberg: and I don't know how that relates to nsProfileDirServiceProvider, or the special DirProvider we use in XPCShell
# [21:37] <bholley> bsmedberg: I'd like the behavior to be consistent between the browser and xpcshell, because I'm writing unit tests in xpcshell
# [21:37] <@bsmedberg> bholley: let's back up a bit. In what cases are we not going to want to use the watchdog? And can you turn the watchdog on and off after you've started it?
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# [21:38] <bholley> bsmedberg: we want to turn it off on certain platforms, like b2g. And yes, you can turn it on and off, but I don't want to churn if it's not necessary
# [21:38] <bholley> bsmedberg: which is why I'd like to wait to make the decision until after we can reliably read prefs
# [21:38] <@bsmedberg> bholley: well, the default pref for B2G would be to disable the watchdog, right?
# [21:38] <bholley> bsmedberg: yes
# [21:38] <@bsmedberg> bholley: *prefs* are available very early. It's only *user* prefs that aren't
# [21:39] <@bsmedberg> bholley: so I would suggest just setting the correct default prefs and using a pref observer
# [21:39] <dzbarsky> kats: pong
# [21:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: they don't appear to be available at XPCJSRuntime init
# [21:39] <@bsmedberg> bholley: got a stack?
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# [21:39] <@bsmedberg> I guess we may be in the middle of XPCOM registration
# [21:39] <bholley> bsmedberg: that is to say, Preferences::GetBool("dom.use_watchdog", default) gives me |default|, whatever it is
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# [21:40] <bholley> bsmedberg: well, after this patch that you and I landed, presumably it happens there: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=739727&action=diff
# [21:41] <kats> dzbarsky: i would like to know about the pre- and post-scale on layers. got a minute to explain what that is?
# [21:42] <dzbarsky> kats: I can try. some of it changed with the layers refactoring so I don't understand all of it anymore
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# [21:42] <kats> dzbarsky: heh. you probably understand it the best out of anybody i think
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# [21:42] <@bsmedberg> bholley: hrm, I'd be surprised
# [21:43] <bholley> bsmedberg: let me set a breakpoint
# [21:43] <dzbarsky> kats: so as I recall, when we want to render a layer at a higher resolution, we scale it up
# [21:43] <dzbarsky> kats: but that screws up the transforms on the container layers above it
# [21:44] <dzbarsky> kats: so the container layers have a prescale that undoes that scaling and a postscale that redoes it
# [21:44] <dzbarsky> kats: that why, when you're multiplying the transform matrices together to get the effective transform, the scaling cancels out
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# [21:44] <kats> BenWa: ^ in case you're interested too
# [21:44] <bholley> bsmedberg: oh, hm. Now it seems like the pref is readable
# [21:45] <bholley> bsmedberg: ok, great. Then I'll just register a pref observer and let that take care of user prefs, as-loaded
# [21:45] <bholley> bsmedberg: that should work, right?
# [21:45] <kats> dzbarsky: i don't understand why it would screw up the transform on the container layer above it. is it because the resolution is set higher in the tree?
# [21:45] <@bsmedberg> bholley: yes, I believe so
# [21:45] <bholley> bsmedberg: great. Thanks :-)
# [21:46] <BenWa> dzbarsky: Also when would the pre/post scale be different?
# [21:46] <dzbarsky> kats: I'm not sure what the resolution on layers means
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# [21:47] <bholley> bsmedberg: for my edification - where do default prefs get read?
# [21:47] <dzbarsky> kats: I think you have to do translations before scaling, or something
# [21:47] <bholley> bsmedberg: do those not come from the profile directory?
# [21:47] <@bsmedberg> no
# [21:47] <@bsmedberg> default prefs are in omnijar
# [21:47] <@bsmedberg> user prefs are in the profile
# [21:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: got it
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# [21:48] <kats> dzbarsky: the resolution on a layer is the scale factor between "device pixels" (as layout calls them) and the layer pixels. i'm not sure if that's helpful
# [21:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: and dir providers are just for the profile directory?
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# [21:48] <@bsmedberg> dir providers are a different kind of thing
# [21:48] <dzbarsky> BenWa: I'm really not sure, sorry
# [21:48] <dzbarsky> BenWa: maybe never
# [21:48] <@bsmedberg> bholley: default prefs get read from here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libpref/src/Preferences.cpp#355 which is called when somebody first gets the prefservice
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# [21:48] <kats> dzbarsky: i'm planning to write a blog post about the different coordinate systems now that i understand that part, maybe that will help get the terminology clear
# [21:48] <ttaubert> are there any known problems while linking libxul on Linux currently? I keep getting "error: undefined reference to 'mozilla::dom::HTMLOptGroupElementBinding::DefineDOMInterface" even after clearing ccache and clobbering
# [21:49] <bholley> bsmedberg: ah, nice
# [21:49] <@bsmedberg> bholley: so the only problem would be if you were calling Preferences before XPCOM had registered the libxul components
# [21:49] <dzbarsky> BenWa: We can try replacing postscale with the inverse of prescale and checking if things break
# [21:49] <froydnj> ttaubert: I just compiled inbound with no problems
# [21:49] <bholley> bsmedberg: but that's unlikely here, I guess
# [21:49] <ttaubert> froydnj: hm :(
# [21:49] <@bsmedberg> yeah, I think it can't happen
# [21:49] <dzbarsky> kats: so when is resolution applied?
# [21:49] <ttaubert> froydnj: I pulled this morning and couldn't get it to build since then
# [21:50] <kats> dzbarsky: resolution is applied when layout rasterizes and delivers the painted content to graphics
# [21:50] <BenWa> dzbarsky: Argg, this isn't magic. This is algebra. We need to understand the code we're landing :(
# [21:50] <Optimizer> umm guys, I have this : <hbox><checkbox/><label/><label class="text-link"/></hbox>, now the checkbox and the last label and vertically aligned, but the middle one is lifted upwards :(
# [21:50] <Optimizer> vertical-align:baseline/bottom is also not helpung
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# [21:51] <dzbarsky> BenWa: It made sense to me and roc at some point. I think I may have even left comments.
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# [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc479282354e - Jim Mathies - Bug 859155 - misc. content files for tests. r=mbrubeck
# [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa3f71ea0daa - Jim Mathies - Bug 859155 - Tests for gfx, deck shifting, composition, and tabs. r=mbrubeck, sfoster
# [21:51] <BenWa> I grepped the bug for info but didn't find much. I didn't read all the comments
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# [21:52] <froydnj> ttaubert: huh. I don't see anything obvious in inbound's queue that would cause a problem like that =/
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# [21:52] <ttaubert> froydnj: I'm on fx-team
# [21:52] <dzbarsky> BenWa: we should do bug 780265 to get rid of this mess
# [21:53] <ttaubert> froydnj: so that's probably something on my machine. I didn't change anything, though. thx for confirming
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# [21:53] <kats> dzbarsky: i would love to, if i understood what it meant :(
# [21:53] <froydnj> ttaubert: yeah. built android locally too
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# [21:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/91f4d8039dc1 - Frank Yan - Bug 883078 - Null-check documentElement when removing browser handlers. r=gavin
# [21:55] <ttaubert> froydnj: I'll re-clone and see if that solves things
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# [21:56] <johan_> are there any third party applications using libnss as a httpclient?
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# [21:56] <dzbarsky> kats: ah, I think I remember a little more now. So FrameLayerBuilder used to apply the scale directly to a layer's transform
# [21:56] <dzbarsky> to render at a higher resolution
# [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35a76cc3c2c8 - Sriram Ramasubramanian - Bug 884133: Kill sAppContext in GeckoApp. [r=blassey]
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# [21:56] <dzbarsky> kats: and then apply the inverse to the parent, to fix things up to look correctly
# [21:56] <dzbarsky> kats: because the scale would be rounded to powers of 2 instead of being the actual scale
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# [21:57] <dzbarsky> kats: that would screw up OMTA because we had to change the base transform before scaling got applied
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# [21:57] <dzbarsky> kats: so I added x-scale and y-scale to layers
# [21:57] <dzbarsky> kats: but that wasn
# [21:57] <dzbarsky> kats: but that wasn't quite enough, because we multiply matrices in opposite order, or something
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# [21:59] <kats> dzbarsky: this "apply the inverse to the parent" business, does that still happen?
# [21:59] <kats> can you point me to the code?
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# [22:00] <dzbarsky> kats: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/FrameLayerBuilder.cpp#2747
# [22:00] <dzbarsky> kats: this code has changed since i've written it. not sure what the inherited scale business is
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# [22:00] <kats> i'll ask nrc about that once he's up, looks like he added it
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# [22:01] <@bsmedberg> ted: who should I talk to about browser-chrome test? I'm getting very weird results for document.top for things loaded into the browser window
# [22:01] <@gavin> ted: me?
# [22:01] <@gavin> er
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# [22:01] <@gavin> bsmedberg: me?
# [22:02] <kats> dzbarsky: ok thanks. let me know if you remember anything else that might help. i'll keep digging around the code to see if i can understand more of it
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# [22:02] <@gavin> bsmedberg: do you mean window.top?
# [22:02] <@gavin> and how is it weird?
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# [22:02] <@bsmedberg> gavin: well in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/test/browser_bug743421.js#42
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# [22:03] <@bsmedberg> gavin: apparently we're loading chrome:// HTML docs into that browser, and not HTTP docs
# [22:03] <@bsmedberg> this screws up the click-to-play UI, because it is trying to set permissions on the system principal
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# [22:03] <@bsmedberg> I'm not sure whether .top is actually the browser chrome, or it's just that there's a chrome:// doc loaded into the main browser window
# [22:03] <@bsmedberg> gavin: but is there a way to have it load the files as HTTP instead?
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# [22:04] <@gavin> bsmedberg: the gTestRoot stuff is just really dumb
# [22:04] <@bsmedberg> is there already a better way?
# [22:04] <@gavin> bsmedberg: you should just hardcode the relevant http://mochi.test/tests/browser/browser/etc path
# [22:04] <@dolske> why not run that as a regular mochitest instead?
# [22:05] <dzbarsky> kats: will do
# [22:05] <@bsmedberg> dolske: it's testing the doorhanger
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# [22:05] <mcsmurf> bsmedberg: wait a second, I think I know a solution to your problem, had to solve a similar problem for a SeaMonkey test a while ago
# [22:06] <mcsmurf> maybe that will work for you, too
# [22:06] <@dolske> bsmedberg: eh, you can check such things in mochitest too.
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# [22:06] <@gavin> browser-chrome seems fine for this
# [22:06] <@gavin> less "jump out of content" hackery needed
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# [22:07] <mcsmurf> bsmedberg: "+ let rootDir = getRootDirectory(gTestPath).replace("chrome://mochitests/content/", "http://mochi.test:8888/");"
# [22:08] <mcsmurf> bsmedberg: is this what you're looking for?
# [22:08] <@gavin> yes
# [22:08] <mcsmurf> I only skimmed the irc log :o
# [22:08] <@gavin> except you just shouldn't use getRootDirectory
# [22:08] <@bsmedberg> hardcoding sounds reasonable in this case
# [22:08] <mcsmurf> ok :)
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# [22:08] <@gavin> gTestRoot = http://mochi.test:8888/browser/browser/base/content/test/
# [22:09] <mcsmurf> sure, in this case probably easier
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# [22:09] <@gavin> sicking: can you review https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883592 ?
# [22:10] <sicking> gavin: looking
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# [22:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2272804a8e71 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Scale the critical displayport by the widget scale as well. r=Cwiiis
# [22:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14c73096a132 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Fix the zoom clamping in APZC and the resolution calculation. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
# [22:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bb558c3136f - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Add the LayoutDevicePixel type. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
# [22:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e39d3bdf847a - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Update the ViewTransform class to have a LayoutToScreen scale factor. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe, BenWa
# [22:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/89f6185a271b - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Apply the mDevPixelsPerCSSPixel scaling factor in a few places. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
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# [22:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf46fc332efe - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Propagate the ScaleFactor classes far and wide. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
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# [22:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7d5d16e27e0 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 883646 - Fix zoom-to-rect code in APZC to use a proper definition of zoom. r=kentuckyfriedtakahe
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# [22:13] <sicking> gavin: i think it's not safe to skip the various events that usually get fired
# [22:13] <Yoric> geekboy: ping
# [22:13] <geekboy> Yoric: pong
# [22:13] <sicking> gavin: i'm honestly not sure, but being consistent seems safer
# [22:14] <Yoric> geekboy: We have an urgent needinfo? for you on bug 837326
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# [22:14] <@gavin> sicking: consistent with what?
# [22:15] <geekboy> Yoric: collection period needs definition ('session')?
# [22:15] <@gavin> sicking: do you have any examples of where it could cause problems?
# [22:15] <Yoric> geekboy: yes
# [22:15] <sicking> gavin: other error conditions
# [22:15] <geekboy> k, commenting now
# [22:15] <sicking> gavin: i know the HTML parser used to get very hung up if you didn't fire the right callbacks
# [22:15] <Yoric> geekboy: i.e. at the moment, we do it ~once per day.
# [22:15] <@gavin> sicking: try seems to be fine with it...
# [22:15] <Yoric> (plus possibly flushing upon exit)
# [22:16] <sicking> gavin: i wouldn't count on try catching all scenarios here
# [22:16] <sicking> gavin: being inconsistent is also bad for future code
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# [22:16] <@gavin> I still don't understand what you mean by "inconsistent"
# [22:17] <@gavin> this is a case where we're failing to load the script because the window went away before we got aroudn to loading it, AIUI
# [22:17] <@gavin> firing a useless error event in that case doesn't seem useful
# [22:17] <sicking> gavin: not just talking about DOM events
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# [22:18] <sicking> gavin: there's a bunch of internal notifications too
# [22:18] <sicking> gavin: in fact, the DOM Events will get blocked no matter what
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# [22:18] <sicking> gavin: at least I think they will
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# [22:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de2cab422ac0 - David Keeler - bug 883582 - use only domains likely to stay on the HSTS preload list in the test r=bsmith
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# [22:21] <@gavin> sicking: they won't, that's what caused the orange
# [22:21] <@gavin> sicking: they don't fire on content because there's no window, but they bubble to chrome
# [22:21] <sicking> gavin: the internal notifications will fire though
# [22:22] <@gavin> right, ok, so you're saying we need to be more conservative and only block the firing of the dom event
# [22:22] <sicking> gavin: right
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# [22:23] <sicking> gavin: there's a whole pile of DOM events going off here it seems. I'm guessing you want to supress them all?
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# [22:23] <dzbarsky> kats: oh, I remember now. it has to do with pan/zoom. see the last part of https://bug706179.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=647373
# [22:23] <@gavin> sicking: which notifications are you worried about?
# [22:23] <@gavin> sicking: is it the "EvaluatingExternalScript" ones?
# [22:24] <@gavin> BeginEvaluating/EndEvaluating?
# [22:24] <sfink> jcranmer|away: ping (aka "is your nick a lie?")
# [22:24] <geekboy> Sorry for the delay, Yoric.
# [22:24] <sicking> gavin: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsScriptLoader.cpp#767
# [22:24] <sicking> gavin: and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsScriptLoader.cpp#783
# [22:25] <@gavin> sicking: ok
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# [22:26] <dzbarsky> kats: and then https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e76632e148d6 split the scale into pre/post
# [22:26] <@gavin> sicking: I kind of wonder if maybe the DOM events just shouldn't bubble to chrome if they couldn't be fired on content
# [22:26] <dzbarsky> kats: based off the comments, I think fennec applied the top level zoom as a post scale
# [22:26] <@gavin> sicking: though I guess that has the potential to break stuff in weird ways too
# [22:26] <sicking> gavin: also these two http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsScriptLoader.cpp#80
# [22:27] <sicking> gavin: that does sound like the proper fix. But I have the same concerns
# [22:27] <kats> dzbarsky: fennec only ever set the resolution, it didn't do anything specific with pre- and post-scales
# [22:27] <@gavin> sicking: ok, I guess I didn't realize that people use this for things not related to actually evaluating the script
# [22:27] <kats> i'll have to spend some more time looking at the code
# [22:27] <dzbarsky> kats: sorry about making this so complicated =(
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# [22:27] <kats> dzbarsky: it happens. we all write code that turns out complicated later
# [22:27] <sicking> gavin: it's more that various things block until the script has been evaluated, or until we've hit an error
# [22:28] <sicking> gavin: if we don't fire those notifications, we never unblock
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# [22:28] <sicking> gavin: might not matter if this is only for situations when we've navigated away from a window. But then again, who knows
# [22:29] <kats> dzbarsky: i have to step out for a bit but feel free to send more helpful comments and stuff my way
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# [22:35] <nalexander> Has anybody seen `TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | xpccheck | test test_engineselect.js is missing from test manifest /builds/slave/try-lx-00000000000000000000000/build/toolkit/components/search/tests/xpcshell/xpcshell.ini!` or similar?
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# [22:35] <nalexander> This is on a try build at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1844e440cadf
# [22:36] <sfink> nalexander: there have been problems with try not getting purged correctly
# [22:36] <Optimizer> any good way to get the top most window on OSX ?
# [22:36] <nalexander> I really don't think it has anything to do with me, ... and that would do it.
# [22:36] <Optimizer> Services.wm.getZOrderXULWindowEnumerator seems to fail
# [22:36] <nalexander> sfink: thanks!
# [22:36] <sfink> there's at least one bug open (and one closed for a previous incarnation)
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# [22:36] <nalexander> Hmm. Presumably a re-trigger won't avoid the issue?
# [22:36] <@gavin> nalexander: it will, likely, since you'll get a different slave
# [22:36] <sfink> it might
# [22:36] <@gavin> nalexander: see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883918
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# [22:37] <nalexander> gavin: ah, wasn't certain I'd get a different slave. We shall see!
# [22:37] <@gavin> nalexander: worth filing a bug with the name of the slave that failed
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# [22:37] <sfink> ah, gavinbot is still functioning. Cool!
# [22:38] <RyanVM> would anybody complain if I just disabled all of imported dom mochitests on Android due to their frequent OOMing the browser during the run?
# [22:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcd116eb35ca - Nikhil Marathe - Bug 885156 - Set _started in PushService.init(). r=dougt
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# [22:39] <tbsaunde> RyanVM: ms2ger maybe?
# [22:39] <BenWa> did we clear the try results? Can't fetch the results for a 2 day old try push https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=5d26f5b34b92
# [22:41] <Optimizer> for me try is stuck at 9%
# [22:41] <BenWa> Right, looks like they reset try =\
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# [22:41] <BenWa> (delete old pushes)
# [22:41] <dholbert> BenWa, I'm not so sure
# [22:42] <dholbert> BenWa, Try sometimes gets a blip where its pushlog (and hence TBPL) just refuse to load
# [22:42] <dholbert> https://hg.mozilla.org/try/pushloghtml isn't loading for me, so I suspect that's the problem
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# [22:42] <dholbert> fox2mike usually fixes it when I file bugs on it, IIRC. fox2mike: ping! :)
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# [22:42] <Optimizer> anyone with a way to know the focused window. I am writing tests to confirm that a window is focused .
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# [22:45] <nemo> weird. I just got a slow script warning for mathjax, running nightly on http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/print/10.1103/PhysRevLett.110.244302
# [22:45] <nemo> there's almost no math there
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# [22:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e8d3827f914c - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 883784 - [Workers] Support URL.createObjectURL from a worker created by a jsm. r=bent
# [22:50] <nemo> hrm. no probs on refresh. weird
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# [22:56] <abr> Let's say I have a proposed patch to make "./mach clobber" do tree removal in the background on OS X -- who would be the module owner to review that?
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# [22:57] <sfink> abr:gps
# [22:57] <BenWa> abr: That would be gps to review mach
# [22:57] <abr> Thanks.
# [22:57] <sfink> and gps to review build changes
# [22:58] <Optimizer> and gps to track our current geo locations
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# [22:59] <BenWa> djvj: build done
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# [23:09] <@khuey> Callek: ping?
# [23:09] <Callek> khuey: ?
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# [23:09] <@khuey> Callek: are you still the person to talk to about seamonkey build stuff?
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# [23:10] <Callek> I'm one of them, yea... whats up?
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# [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/387480226140 - Terrence Cole - Bug 883472 - Keep pre-barrier state from interfering with minor collection; r=billm
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# [23:11] <@khuey> Callek: so this windows 8 SDK thing
# [23:11] <jcranmer> sfink: pong
# [23:11] <@khuey> Callek: do you know anything about this?
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# [23:11] <Callek> khuey: very little, all I know is there was talk (yesterday I think) here, asking a single person if we could unconditionally require it
# [23:11] <Callek> I explained that SeaMonkey atm can't install the win8 SDK since our machines are on w2k3
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# [23:12] <Callek> and while I don't feel seamonkey can or ever should, be a blocker to that I would appreciate if we only required it *after* the next uplift
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# [23:12] <gaston> but they're back and rocking \o/
# [23:12] <@khuey> Callek: are there plans to upgrade the seamonkey build machines?
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# [23:12] <Callek> khuey: also gavin expressed concern on doing a change like that without bringing it to a wider audience/consensus, that the bump in hard requirement is worth the feature/work tradeoff.
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# [23:13] <sfink> jcranmer: never mind, filed bug 885515
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# [23:13] <Callek> khuey: and yea its on our plans, but it requires external moco team work to even come close to make it happen, since we need to install a new windows version, which relies on MoCo IT resources, then we also need to fully build the system from scratch, which is not an easy matter when it comes to time
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# [23:13] <Callek> khuey: so I'd expect at least a month or more before SeaMonkey can have win8 SDK installed
# [23:14] <Callek> khuey: even if I filed the "please reimage" bugs now
# [23:14] <Callek> khuey: also note SeaMonkey trees are still not fully open after the last hardware failure we had to our buildmaster (I *just* got the master even taking a single job on tuesday, and still need to do some config for it)
# [23:15] <Callek> khuey: and it also looks like we have to upgrade our centOS builders first, which are already broken on trunk since we last had the master working
# [23:15] <Callek> khuey: so we do have a _lot_ of work to do, which also has a good chunk of IT time requirements to slot in
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# [23:15] <@khuey> Callek: so if I r+ a gecko workaround can we commit to getting seamonkey on the windows 8 SDK within N months where N is some low single digit integer?
# [23:15] <Callek> and SaeMonkey is lowest priority for IT
# [23:16] <Callek> khuey: I would be surprised if I don't have SeaMonkey on w2k8 (and win8SDK as a side-affect) by end of year
# [23:16] <Callek> its hard to promise anything shorter, since it depends on external-to-seamonkey time
# [23:16] <Callek> and we already have other "completely broken" things to work around/out
# [23:16] <@khuey> ok
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# [23:17] <@roc> Is there a name for the behavior where because you have lower expectations for your enemies than your friends, you spend all your time yelling at your friends instead of your enemies?
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# [23:17] <Callek> frenemy?
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# [23:17] <Callek> khuey: and thanks for hearing out my situation
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# [23:18] <cpearce> "family"?
# [23:18] <@khuey> Callek: sure, np
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# [23:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d210ebcc3509 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 844882 - Part 5: jit-tests for self-hosted classes. (r=nmatsakis)
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# [23:19] <wlach> roc: can't think of one, although that happens to me all the time. if you find one, let us know :)
# [23:19] <@ehsan> bent: ping
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# [23:20] <bent> ehsan, hi
# [23:21] <@ehsan> bent: hey
# [23:21] <@ehsan> bent: so I need shared workers... is bug 643325 the only thing I want?
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# [23:21] <bent> ehsan, yeah, i think so
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# [23:22] <bent> ehsan, though... "why"?
# [23:22] <@ehsan> bent: for NavigationController
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# [23:22] <bent> hm
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# [23:23] <@ehsan> hmm, bent, is there any reason why bug 741618 needs top exist?
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# [23:23] <Callek> khuey: btw, what bug is this so I can be sure to get a bug or two on file to (try to) properly track
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# [23:24] <@khuey> Callek: 885525
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# [23:24] <bent> ehsan, yeah, though it probably wants to be MessageChannel
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# [23:25] <Callek> Bas: ...and what bug is 885525 blocking on your end, so that we can make a proper bugchain so that when this workaround is no longer needed we can undo the hackery
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# [23:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ef9e533dae6 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 879743 - Fake audio should be sent at the same rate as fake video r=jesup
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# [23:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b029e52490da - Matt Woodrow - Bug 756601 - Enable OMTC by default on OSX 10.7 and 10.8. r=roc
# [23:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79d6fa05cff4 - David Anderson - Bug 868919 - Confirm that the child process has received fd handles on OSX before releasing them. r=bent
# [23:33] <bent> dvander, nice work btw
# [23:33] <mattwoodrow> thanks for reviewing bent
# [23:33] <dvander> bent, oh yeah thanks for reviewing that. glad to be done with it
# [23:33] <RyanVM> kats|away: ping
# [23:33] <@smaug> oh, OMTC
# [23:34] <@smaug> mattwoodrow: is there a plan for linux?
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# [23:34] <mattwoodrow> smaug: Yes, but it needs some work
# [23:34] <Callek> ehsan: re: webaudio, is the aurora-patch-set expected to include *any* l10n, or is l10n changes explicitly not part of your requested approval set?
# [23:34] <mattwoodrow> We can convert people who are forcing OpenGL layers to OMTC fairly easily
# [23:35] <Callek> ehsan: asking out-of-band to find out if I need to raise the l10n concern I personally have [as a non-driver]
# [23:35] <mattwoodrow> but software OMTC isn't close to ready
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# [23:36] <Yoric> geekboy|afk: On bug 837326, I have changed my mind and surrendered to froydnj's arguments (i.e. flush). Is that ok with you?
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# [23:37] <cpearce> philor: ping
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# [23:37] <philor> cpearce: pong
# [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a96c5cf458c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 7 changesets (bug 883646) for reftest-ipc failures.
# [23:38] <cpearce> philor: I was wondering if you could cast your eye over https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=6de9901350a5 and tell me if those failures are known, or caused by me...
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# [23:38] <cpearce> philor: I've never seen them on a previous push, but can't imagine how I could have caused them...
# [23:38] <cpearce> (a previous push of that patch queue that is)
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# [23:39] <Callek> cpearce++++++
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# [23:39] <Callek> for calling on a sheriff for that confusion
# [23:40] <philor> cpearce: other than the frequency of the CrossSiteXHR one, win8 doesn't surprise me much, but I don't think I've ever seen that win7 one anywhere - is your parent green, not something that wound up backed out?
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# [23:42] <cpearce> philor: the parent is green, on Win7 at least. well, it was on previous pushes of that patch queue, and I don't recall updating that repo recently.
# [23:42] <tanvi> can we depend on channel Policy's GetLoadType to get the type of resource we are about to load (object, image, script, etc)? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/nsChannelPolicy.cpp#19
# [23:42] <cpearce> It's probably my fault somehow.
# [23:42] <tanvi> smaug ^^?
# [23:42] <tanvi> it doesn't look like it, because it defaults to 0 and isn't always set.
# [23:43] <tanvi> is there anyway to reliably get the load type from the channel?
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# [23:44] <RyanVM> philor: possible "Try clobber fail" bustage?
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# [23:45] <Callek> RyanVM: on tests?
# [23:45] <philor> I'd like that explanation better if it failed 5 of 5, not 4 of 5
# [23:45] <RyanVM> hmm
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# [23:49] <@smaug> tanvi: hmm, I'm not familiar with channelpolicy
# [23:49] <@smaug> would need to read some code
# [23:49] <@smaug> tanvi: looks like jduell reviewed the patch which added it
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# [23:51] <tanvi> smaug - okay thanks. I'll ask jduell when he's on irc
# [23:52] <tanvi> firebot: seen jduell
# [23:52] <firebot> jduell was last seen 1 day, 23 hours, 11 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying 'ok thanks' in #b2g.
# [23:53] <@gavin> sicking: I put a new patch in the bug
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# [23:57] <@ehsan> Callek: no
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# [23:58] <Callek> ehsan: thanks
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