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- # [01:02] <@smaug> nouuu, tryserver is closed
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- # [01:21] <philor> smaug: reopened try - if you run Android 4.0 tests you'll wait for them, but other than that things ought to be working
- # [01:22] <@smaug> philor: thanks
- # [01:22] * @smaug needs just opt 64bit linux
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- # [02:33] <philor> oopsie
- # [02:34] <philor> I thought just this once, I'd pull the tip of m-i while merging, since the tip was five hours old and all built out
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- # [02:49] <philor> nalexander: trees are open, and I'm watching m-c anyway, if you want to land there
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- # [03:06] <philor> heh, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-B2g18&onlyunstarred=1
- # [03:07] <philor> while the RyanVM's away, the mice will crap all over the floor
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- # [04:42] <philor> mmm, 1) "mochiperf", 2) "| waitForMs finished waiting, waited for 1002ms"
- # [04:51] <Callek> mochiperf???
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- # [04:51] <Callek> if you're using mochitest for perf testing you're doing it wrong
- # [04:51] <Callek> very very wrong
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- # [05:27] <philor> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/metro/base/tests/mochiperf/res/ripples.html
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- # [05:29] <philor> well, mine not to reason how batshit insane, mine just to back out months of work over a mochiperf test
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- # [05:33] <tbsaunde> Callek: go talk to jumm, but fwiw I think he said something on dev-platform and nobody told him why it was a bad idea :/
- # [05:34] <Callek> tbsaunde: define "something" and "when" for dev-platform
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- # [05:34] <Callek> tbsaunde: I can't say I saw it, and I can also explain why he should talk to releng/ateam when adding any new test-suite
- # [05:35] <tbsaunde> Callek: let me see if I can dig it up
- # [05:35] <Callek> perf testing in mochi is increadibly bad
- # [05:35] <Callek> and imo the whole test type should be backed out
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- # [06:40] <Callek> tbsaunde: philor: so specifically where is mochiperf running
- # [06:41] <Callek> I'm looking to write an explanative e-mail and need the data
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- # [06:44] <bholley> philor: do you know the magic try string to do win8 builds? Is it |win8|?
- # [06:44] <bholley> oh, I bet Callek knows
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- # [06:44] <philor> bholley: there's just one windows build
- # [06:44] <Callek> bholley: you'd lose that bet
- # [06:44] <bholley> philor: ok. So I just do -p win32 -u mochitest-metro-chrome?
- # [06:45] <Callek> bholley: I can point you at http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ where you might be able to learn it
- # [06:45] <bholley> Callek: oh hey, that's new!
- # [06:45] <Callek> s/new/less than 2 years old/
- # [06:45] <Callek> ;-)
- # [06:45] * bholley must be getting old
- # [06:46] <Callek> err s/less than 2 years old/less than 3 years old/
- # [06:46] <Callek> http://mozilla.dev.planning.free-usenet.eu/Impending-TryChooser-changes-that-you-should-know-about_T65697875_S1
- # [06:46] <philor> there's a restrict to platform section that would let you get just win8 tests, but since metro-chrome is win8 only, you don't need it
- # [06:46] <bholley> right
- # [06:47] <bholley> Callek: well, I always knew about the wiki
- # [06:47] <bholley> Callek: but the wiki is terribly incomplete
- # [06:47] <Callek> bholley: also: http://oduinn.com/blog/2011/06/08/changing-tryserver-to-require-trychooser/
- # [06:48] <Callek> basically, "what rock have you been hiding under" :-P
- # [06:49] <philor> Callek: mochiperf is the part of the win8 metro-chrome suite that Bobby has to unbreak, to tie it together
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- # [06:49] <Callek> philor: ooo soooooooo we're mixing conformance tests with perf tests in one mochi suite, and not recording perf results from run to run
- # [06:50] <Callek> yea that sounds like a _great_ idea
- # [06:51] <Callek> (something must be wrong, I'm getting almost as sarcastic as philor tonight)
- # [06:51] <Callek> :-)
- # [06:51] <philor> yeah, you'll want to read the test before you go off on it based on the directory name, though
- # [06:52] <philor> you can't swing a dead gnat's wing in metro-chrome without hitting a dozen setTimeouts, these just happen to be counting whether or not they sent 100 messages within one
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- # [06:57] <Callek> but want to actually rope in the teams that should care :-)
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- # [16:28] <b10n1k> i downloaded the source by github and i run the server but it seems not right. I suppose i must see the same as mozillians.org. What is the issue here?
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- # [16:29] <mcsmurf> which server?
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- # [16:30] <b10n1k> django's server
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- # [16:33] <b10n1k> i just start get involved and i am new on django
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- # [16:35] <glosoli> what about Django :?
- # [16:38] <b10n1k> the home page doesnt appear with the right css. Is it anything about configuration or what?
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- # [17:00] <mcsmurf> b10n1k: I think you need to provide more context what you're talking about
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- # [17:00] <reuben> b10n1k: you probably want #webdev :)
- # [17:00] <mcsmurf> but it might happen noone here knows anything about that (I have a vague idea what you might mean)
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- # [17:18] <b10n1k> thanks both.
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- # [17:28] <philor> hmm
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- # [17:29] <philor> what horrible difference have we made between periodic PGO builds and nightly builds, that gives Win8 tests a strong tendency to not start up the browser on nightlies?
- # [17:32] <mcsmurf> not start up=crash?
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- # [17:35] <philor> nope, just... not start up
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- # [17:35] <Ms2ger> Starting up is hard, let's go shopping
- # [17:35] <philor> "330 seconds without output" in the case of things run by the reftest harness, "initialization timed out" for talos
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- # [18:40] <jld> Do we seriously not test whether b2g debug builds actually run?
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- # [18:41] <jld> Because, like, there are these things called "assertions"....
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- # [18:42] <philor> but, there are these things called "actually putting the goddamn assertions in the log where they happen"
- # [18:44] <philor> and to everyone's surprise, both for b2g and for fennec before it, just saying over and over "we have to have debug tests running" doesn't cause stdout and stderr to intermingle and somehow save themselves to an off-device file
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- # [19:02] <jld> philor: Oh. I see. Cedar debug builds have been on fire for approximately forever. Well then. I guess it's not too surprising that m-c b2g debug is, apparently, in the same state.
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- # [19:12] <philor> I presume the way they run on b2g18 is the result of running virtually nothing, since mochitest-1 there is 486 tests, rather than 41138
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- # [20:52] <mjrosenb> huh, is it just me, or does fx not remember passwords on the new zimbra interface?
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- # [20:54] <JonathanS> mjrosenb, did zimba interface has attributes to not tell firefox to not remember it?
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- # [20:56] <mjrosenb> JonathanS: I don't know how to check that.
- # [20:56] <JonathanS> view page source
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- # [20:57] <JonathanS> mjrosenb Find autocomplete=off
- # [20:57] <mjrosenb> <td><input id="password" autocomplete="off" class="zLoginField" name="password" type="password" value="" size="40" maxlength="1024"/></td>
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- # [20:57] <JonathanS> mjrosenb, there, it is prevented.
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- # [20:58] <mjrosenb> those cheeky bastards.
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- # [20:58] <JonathanS> if more site use autocomplete=off, it made password managers a joke.
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- # [22:56] <@gavin> msucan: did you get your answer re: hudservice?
- # [22:56] <msucan> gavin: hey! i haven't checked yet
- # [22:57] <msucan> checking now
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- # [22:57] <@gavin> msucan: it's likely there because of the move to omni.jar
- # [22:57] <msucan> i haven't seen any answer....
- # [22:58] <msucan> gavin: so i can remove that line then?
- # [22:58] <@gavin> msucan: omnijar consolidated multiple files (including modules), so from the updater's point of view those files were essentially "removed"
- # [22:58] <@gavin> msucan: no, you should generally never remove things from removed-files.in
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- # [22:58] <@gavin> in theory you could remove files listed there when you no longer care about upgrades from versions in which they were removed
- # [22:59] <@gavin> but there's no real harm from leaving them there (apart from the confusion, perhaps)
- # [22:59] <@gavin> smaug: pong
- # [22:59] <msucan> gavin: ah, thanks
- # [23:00] <msucan> gavin: so i found that with mxr, because i wanted to know where HUDService.jsm is used
- # [23:00] <msucan> so i can leave that there now
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- # [23:00] <@smaug> it was something about browser.js I think
- # [23:01] <@smaug> but figured out that private browsing tests are just super racy
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- # [23:04] <msucan> time to go. good night
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- # [23:46] <philor> hmm, I wonder what the difference between periodic pgo builds, which start just fine in win8 tests, and nightly builds, which do not, could be
- # [23:46] <philor> could it be... http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#8824?
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