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1. # Session Start: Tue Jul 02 00:00:00 2013
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8. # [00:00] <till> so weird
9. # [00:00] <@bz> roc: the dromaeo DOM test results are a mite bogus in our direction
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11. # [00:01] <@bz> roc: because we taught the JIT that getAttribute is idempotent
12. # [00:01] <@bz> roc: er, that .id is
13. # [00:01] <@roc> that's not bogus
14. # [00:01] <@bz> roc: so we loop-hoist it
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16. # [00:01] <@bz> roc: well, I said "mite"
17. # [00:01] <@bz> roc: Sure helps the numbers!
18. # [00:01] <jesup> wow, did they finally remove MazeTest?
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20. # [00:01] <Gijs> gavin: regarding bug 887731, I'm afraid you're misremembering...
21. # [00:01] <@bz> roc: (we were ahead of Chrome even without that bit)
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23. # [00:02] <@gavin> Gijs: excellent opportunity to get involved, then! :P
24. # [00:02] <Gijs> gavin: yeah, excuse me while I chase this perf regression you want us to fix before landing Australis...
25. # [00:02] <Gijs> :P
26. # [00:02] * till wonders how far along the forms stuff is
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28. # [00:02] <Gijs> gavin: I know where that code lives, though, so let me find that quickly and drop a link.
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53. # [00:16] <@dbaron> bz, so I'm starting to think ReResolveStyleContext is messy enough that it needs to be substantially refactored
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56. # [00:19] <sfink> into separate ReResolveStyleContext and ReReResolveStyleContext cases?
57. # [00:19] <mrbkap> dbaron++
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59. # [00:20] <@dbaron> Oh, I love this big "#if ACCESSIBILITY" chunk that was stuck in between an if and the comment explaining the if().
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61. # [00:21] * NeilAway sighs
62. # [00:21] <NeilAway> my Makefile.in -> Makefile rule isn't working :s
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72. # [00:26] <NeilAway> aargh, mozillabuild doesn't even provide vimdiff?
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78. # [00:28] <@dbaron> does firebot not announce checkins anymore either?
79. # [00:29] <@dbaron> firebot, reboot
80. # [00:29] <firebot> dbaron: Oh, I know this one! reboot is / rebooting... :-)
81. # [00:30] <@gavin> he was reset just recently
82. # [00:30] <philor> and he's moving to a new house
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87. # [00:31] <wg9s> firebot is announcing on the firebot channel\
88. # [00:31] <firebot> wg9s: Sorry, I've no idea what 'is announcing on the firebot channel\' might be.
89. # [00:32] <wg9s> and is also stupid
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91. # [00:33] <mccr8> firebot is firebot
92. # [00:33] <firebot> mccr8: Sorry, I've no idea what 'is firebot' might be.
93. # [00:33] <wg9s> like I said ;-)
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96. # [00:34] <@dbaron> firebot firebot
97. # [00:34] <firebot> dbaron: I'm firebot, I provide Bug Updates (and much more) for Firefox and the rest of the Mozilla world. :-) I'm maintained by Wolf and you can find out more about me here, http://firebot.psychoticwolf.net/
98. # [00:34] <@dbaron> firebot 'firebot'
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100. # [00:34] <firebot> dbaron: Sorry, I've no idea what ''firebot'' might be.
101. # [00:34] <dholbert> That was kind of deep, actually. ("Sorry, I've no idea what 'is firebot' might be.")
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104. # [00:35] <wg9s> dholbert: it all depends on what your definition of 'is" is!;-)
105. # [00:35] <dholbert> :)
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115. # [00:46] <wg9s> hmm I meant to say firebot is still announcing on #firefox
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177. # [01:19] <mwu> blassey: red/orange on inbound in case you haven't seen it
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184. # [01:22] <blassey> don't have time to look now, I'll just back out
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203. # [01:35] <@gavin> wg9s: your comments in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888765#c12 aren't really useful
204. # [01:35] <Mossop> wg9s: What wiki page are you referring to there anyway?
205. # [01:37] <Mossop> I was a little surprised to find that telemetry doesn't seem to have a module defined anywhere
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208. # [01:38] <shu> cpeterson: ping
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222. # [01:52] <mihneadb> is anybody related to Toolkit/ApplicationUpdate around?
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238. # [01:59] <nthomas> mihneadb: the two usual suspects aren't on irc
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240. # [02:00] <mihneadb> nthomas: are those rstrong and bbondy?
241. # [02:00] <nthomas> aye
242. # [02:00] <mihneadb> ok, thanks
243. # [02:00] <mihneadb> are they in some US timezone?
244. # [02:00] <nthomas> yes, both West Coast
245. # [02:00] <@gavin> bbondy is east coast
246. # [02:00] <nthomas> the phonebook lies!
247. # [02:01] <mihneadb> :)
248. # [02:01] <mihneadb> ok, thanks
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250. # [02:01] <mihneadb> will look for them tomorrow then
251. # [02:01] <@gavin> CA for Canada, not California :)
252. # [02:01] <nthomas> WAT
253. # [02:02] <nthomas> you'll be telling be 06-23-13 is a valid date format next
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261. # [02:05] <JonathanS> DD-MM-YY :)
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273. # [02:10] <aja> Petri dish?
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275. # [02:10] <aja> my, that sounds attractive
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280. # [02:14] <jimm> philor: any ideas on the osx mochitest-3 failures that have shown up?
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287. # [02:22] <philor> nice tree
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289. # [02:23] <philor> jimm: scrollbar assertions, starting when someone landed a scrollbar patch? I'd say... you're a witch, burn you!
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291. # [02:24] <philor> oh my, we still haven't fixed the fact that we're running a WinXP version that doesn't know about when daylight saving time starts and ends?
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293. # [02:25] * philor really wants a Firefox logo with the fox wearing clownshoes
294. # [02:26] <jimm> philor: scrollbar assertions?
295. # [02:26] <jimm> all I see is /tests/dom/indexedDB/ipc/test_ipc.html | /tests/dom/indexedDB/test/test_add_put.html
296. # [02:26] <jimm> failures
297. # [02:26] <devd> philor: if you ever make one, I will buy that tshirt
298. # [02:26] <jimm> and a couple weird js ref test failures
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300. # [02:27] <philor> jimm: yeah, but they are failing because the assertion count is higher than expected, so you load the full log because the brief log won't even catch the assertions, and then search backward from the failure line
301. # [02:27] <philor> and https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24804151&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1#error0 plus previous Assertion is "ASSERTION: must not be waiting for fade during ongoing activity: '!mFadeBeginTimer', file ../../../layout/generic/ScrollbarActivity.cpp, line 78"
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303. # [02:28] <philor> CLOSED TREE in anybody's backout commit messages, btw, android tests have been failing since blassey pushed
304. # [02:28] <jimm> ah crap
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306. # [02:29] <philor> jimm: don't worry about the jsreftest failures, that's because we're running a WinXP release from the dark ages, pre-2007, it thinks daylight saving time will end next October
307. # [02:29] <jimm> ok, backing out
308. # [02:29] <froydnj> gavin: AIUI, your patch for bug 888927 will address bug 888765, correct?
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310. # [02:30] <cpeterson> shu: pong?
311. # [02:31] <firebot> I've been diagnosed with amnesia.. Infobot factoids and Seen history older than when my modules started are missing. Hope to have my memory fixed soon.
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314. # [02:33] <shu> cpeterson: hi
315. # [02:33] <shu> cpeterson: so for that ion move emitter crash
316. # [02:33] <cpeterson> shu: yeah :)
317. # [02:33] <shu> cpeterson: i can't/don't know how to compile b2g
318. # [02:33] <shu> cpeterson: sothis is going to be a bit hard, someone's going to have to play computer for me
319. # [02:34] <glandium> Waldo: ping
320. # [02:34] <cpeterson> shu: do you know how to build Firefox for Android? I repro the bug on Android.
321. # [02:34] <shu> cpeterson: no, i also can't pull new repos on this hotel internet
322. # [02:35] <cpeterson> oh
323. # [02:35] <@gavin> froydnj: well, probably by making it perma-fail for all builds
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332. # [02:38] <froydnj> gavin: hm
333. # [02:38] <philor> blassey: still around?
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335. # [02:39] <Waldo> glandium: pong
336. # [02:39] <Gijs> Uhhh. What does this mean:
337. # [02:39] <Gijs> remote: abort: pretxnchangegroup.c_try_mandatory hook failed
338. # [02:39] <Gijs> (when pushing to try)
339. # [02:40] <glandium> Waldo: i don't understand your comment about --enable-* and --disable-*
340. # [02:40] <glandium> Waldo: autoconf handles both
341. # [02:40] <sfink> Gijs: did you use try syntax in a commit message?
342. # [02:40] <sfink> I thought there was a friendlier error for that, though
343. # [02:40] <Gijs> sfink: yes.
344. # [02:41] <Gijs> Oh, looks like I missed a : after 'try'
345. # [02:41] <Gijs> d'oh
346. # [02:41] * Gijs tries again
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350. # [02:43] <Waldo> glandium: maybe I am demonstrating my superiour (superfluous "u" in honour of Canada) knowledge of our autoconf stuff, but I thought there was actually a difference between the functionality MOZ_ARG_ENABLE_BOOL and MOZ_ARG_DISABLE_BOOL implemented, and that one wouldn't make --enable-* and --disable-* both work, but maybe I'm wrong
351. # [02:43] <glandium> Waldo: the difference between both is what the default is
352. # [02:44] <glandium> (essentially)
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354. # [02:45] <Waldo> glandium: hmm; I guess what confused me here is that MOZ_ARG_*ABLE_BOOL was being called with only three arguments, so it wasn't clear that both if-set and if-not-set cases had associated operations
355. # [02:46] <Waldo> seems like there should be only one macro, and everyone should specify what should happen in both cases, or something
356. # [02:46] <glandium> Waldo: why is there a test "A" == "A" ?
357. # [02:46] * philor wonders whether we could fit a few more quotes into bug 888765
358. # [02:47] <Waldo> glandium: something placeholdery for the if !desktop condition that'll eventually go there, so I don't have to think about what the syntax will be then
359. # [02:47] <mihneadb> someone likes callbacks : http://i.imgur.com/FXOtfOE.png
360. # [02:47] <Gijs> o.O
361. # [02:48] <philor> froydnj: do you know exactly all the ramifications of MOZ_TELEMETRY_ON_BY_DEFAULT, or do I have to read code?
362. # [02:49] * ericjung is now known as ericjung|dinner
363. # [02:49] <@gavin> well, it enables all of the telemetry code essentially
364. # [02:49] <froydnj> philor: we check a different pref to see whether to turn telemetry on
365. # [02:49] <@gavin> when it otherwise wouldn't be on, on trunk
366. # [02:49] <@gavin> wait, I'm wrong
367. # [02:49] <@gavin> just ignore m
368. # [02:49] <froydnj> philor: and there's some extra text included in a few dialogs
369. # [02:50] <froydnj> philor: and that's it
370. # [02:50] <philor> froydnj: and without it, we'll do that prompt on first run thing, where with it we don't?
371. # [02:50] * ewong|away is now known as ewong
372. # [02:50] <@gavin> it shouldn't affect prompting
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374. # [02:50] <@gavin> (we basically got rid of all the telemetry prompting stuff)
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376. # [02:51] <philor> oh, so since it defaults to on, and the other defaults to off, it makes telemetry enabled, and without it it's disabled, because who is going to go dig through prefs looking to turn it on?
377. # [02:51] <philor> or does the other default to on now too, so it's always on?
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379. # [02:51] <froydnj> what's "the other" in "the other defaults to off"?
380. # [02:52] <philor> the pref which is used without MOZ_TELEMETRY_ON_BY_DEFAULT
381. # [02:52] <@gavin> wait, I'm right
382. # [02:52] <@gavin> listen to me
383. # [02:52] <philor> .enabled instead of preReleaseWhatever
384. # [02:52] <@gavin> toolkit.telemetry.enabledPreRelease defaults to true
385. # [02:52] <@gavin> toolkit.telemetry.enabled defaults to false
386. # [02:52] <@gavin> MOZ_TELEMETRY_ON_BY_DEFAULT=1 makes us use the first
387. # [02:52] <philor> and if we don't prompt, then they stay that way
388. # [02:53] <philor> so from the time I remove that stuff from configure.in when I get home tonight, new profiles on trunk builds will no longer do telemetry
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391. # [02:53] <@gavin> existing profiles too
392. # [02:53] <philor> (unless someone goes prospecting in the prefs UI)
393. # [02:53] <@gavin> I don't think you should remove that stuff
394. # [02:53] <philor> sweet, sounds like incentive to fix it!
395. # [02:54] <philor> oh, yeah, I forgot about that - better to ship things that are quite possibly broken than to turn off something which is broken?
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397. # [02:54] <philor> closing time, back in 30 or so
398. # [02:55] * froydnj still doesn't understand *what* exactly is broken
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400. # [02:55] <@gavin> "quite possibly broken" is only true if the tests failing represent brokenness
401. # [02:55] <@gavin> most of the time these issues are not caused by "broken code", they're caused by broken tests or some weird quirk of the test environment
402. # [02:55] <froydnj> and since telemetry works and has for some time, just disabling it on a whim doesn't seem obvious
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410. # [03:00] <wg9s> philor: i think you need to clsoe inbound just to enforce the point.
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412. # [03:01] <@gavin> wg9s: that's not necessary, and not productive
413. # [03:02] <wg9s> if you can land stuff on inbound that will break nightly then inbound should be closed as well.
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415. # [03:02] <jesup> shu: ping - stack for the latest MoveEmitter/etc crash up. The game of whack-a-mole continues.... :0(
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419. # [03:03] <@gavin> we have policies to further our goals, not goals to enforce our policies
420. # [03:03] <wg9s> asnd i knw this is not productive just some are not taking this seriously.
421. # [03:03] <@gavin> taking it seriously is one thing, flipping out and being reactive is another
422. # [03:03] <shu> jesup: i was just bothering cpeterson with the same thing, let me see...
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424. # [03:04] <shu> jesup: well... that's a useful stack trace
425. # [03:04] <wg9s> gavin: OK i should have included a smiley.
426. # [03:04] <jesup> shu: Totally
427. # [03:04] <wg9s> was not serious
428. # [03:04] <jesup> And that's a debug build
429. # [03:05] <cpeterson> jesup, shu: is your stack trace not actually useful then?
430. # [03:05] <jesup> Though maybe it's not finding the symbols? ./mach install; jimdb, select my build, continue, boom
431. # [03:05] <jesup> cpeterson: Mine is 3 levels of ??
432. # [03:05] <shu> cpeterson: no, not useful at all
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435. # [03:07] <jesup> shu: do I need to do something in jimdb other than accepting 0. Do Not Use Object Directory?
436. # [03:08] <jesup> that's the only option I'm being given; haven't run jimdb before
437. # [03:08] <shu> jesup: i don't know what jimdb is
438. # [03:08] <shu> jesup: keep in mind i've never touched anything outside of desktop firefox/js shell
439. # [03:08] <blassey> philor|away: just got back
440. # [03:08] <jesup> Ah. jimdb == Android gdb
441. # [03:09] <blassey> jesup: jimdb == recompiled gdb for Android
442. # [03:09] <blassey> as opposed to the one that comes with the ndk
443. # [03:09] <jesup> blassey: anything special I need to get symbols?
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445. # [03:09] <jesup> after ./mach install?
446. # [03:09] <blassey> no, jimdb will handle pulling the library symbols off the device
447. # [03:10] <blassey> jimdb is also gdb wrapped by python scripts
448. # [03:10] <jesup> darn, then. traceback is just 3 levels of ??
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452. # [03:11] <shu> jesup: i'm pretty sure that function never gets called from jitcode
453. # [03:11] <blassey> jesup: do you have a nexus device?
454. # [03:11] <jesup> Nexus 10
455. # [03:12] <blassey> when I'm up that particular creek, the paddle I reach for is a AOSP debug ROM
456. # [03:12] <blassey> one unfortunate thing about ARM is there are no frame pointers
457. # [03:12] <jesup> I haven't tried it with my Galaxy S4 (just enabled on Sunday)
458. # [03:13] <blassey> so if you don't have symbols, your back trace can go off in the weeds
459. # [03:13] <jesup> blassey: they can't be forced?
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462. # [03:13] <blassey> no
463. # [03:13] <blassey> not that I know of anyway
464. # [03:13] <jesup> odd
465. # [03:13] <blassey> just not part of the calling convention
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473. # [03:19] <jld> blassey,jesup: -mapcs-frame -mthumb2-fake-apcs-frame and https://github.com/jld/linaro-android-gcc/compare/master...b2g
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475. # [03:19] <jld> blassey,jesup: Then deal with blobs and asm that doesn't conform, and inline asm that doesn't even compile.
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477. # [03:20] <jesup> yeah, if the convention is no frame pointers, it gets tougher to include them
478. # [03:20] <jesup> annoying though
479. # [03:20] <jld> blassey,jesup: Oh, and try to hack up anything that assumes the next frame pointer should be at offset 0, not offset -12, and give up in despair when you get to IonMonkey.
480. # [03:21] <jld> blassey,jesup: That basically summarizes most of what I've done since I started at MoCo.
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483. # [03:21] <jld> jesup: There *is* an ABI with frame pointers. But it's been declared obsolete by ARM and never applied to Thumb
484. # [03:22] <blassey> jld: well...we compile thumb2
485. # [03:22] <jld> In part because it can't be implemented entirely correctly even on Thumb2.
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487. # [03:22] <blassey> which as far as I know has never had an ABI with frame pointers
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489. # [03:23] <jld> Anyway, this brings us to what I came here to ask about:
490. # [03:24] <jld> I've been implementing the ARM Exception Handling ABI, so as to plug it into NS_StackWalk, and I still have the problem of find out what objects are loaded.
491. # [03:25] <shu> jesup,cpeterson: i don't know the corners of the ARM assembler this is touching and i need to sleep and catch a train tomorrow, so hopefully mjrosenb can help you out here
492. # [03:25] <jld> s/find/&ing/
493. # [03:25] <cpeterson> shu: np. thanks for your help
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499. # [03:27] <jld> blassey: For what little it's worth, the iOS ABI has a frame pointer variant for Thumb: basically `push {r7, lr}; mov r7, sp`.
500. # [03:27] <blassey> oh, I think I just realized that my push just needed a clobber
501. # [03:27] <blassey> might have backed out for nothing
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503. # [03:28] <philor> wouldn't be surprised, I thought about clobbering after the fact, once I finally realized you had already backed out
504. # [03:28] <blassey> pretty much every push that touches the android resources dir needs a clobber
505. # [03:28] <blassey> its fairly annoying
506. # [03:28] <blassey> and we should probably fix that
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510. # [03:30] <liuche> blassey: do you mean mobile/android/base/resources?
511. # [03:30] <liuche> i've had some luck just removing the offending files from the objdir
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515. # [03:31] <blassey> liuche: that doesn't help with the builders
516. # [03:31] <philor> what is broken is "startup for talos and the reftest harness, on Win8"
517. # [03:31] <blassey> I might just make it such that we clobber android resources on every build
518. # [03:33] <philor> oy
519. # [03:33] <philor> KWierso|Home: guess who's orange?
520. # [03:33] * blassey pushes to try to confirm
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535. # [03:49] <kinetik> khuey: any chance you can take another look at bug 855130?
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543. # [03:54] <KWierso|Home> philor: but...
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547. # [03:57] <philor> no buts about it, young man, you march yourself right back to that woodshed
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558. # [04:05] <philor> and for our next contestant on Who Can Burn Inbound? we have... jgilbert! come on down, jgilbert!
559. # [04:05] <reuben> philor: what are we using the checkin-test and checkin-compilation tags for?
560. # [04:05] * mattwoodrow is now known as mattwoodrow|away
561. # [04:06] <philor> also.... imelven!
562. # [04:06] <philor> reuben: got me, somebody's bean-counting
563. # [04:06] <reuben> I see
564. # [04:07] <philor> imelven: ignore me, I'm blind, and I also don't know which direction time's arrow points
565. # [04:07] <philor> dao, on the other hand
566. # [04:09] <reuben> haven't you learnt the lesson? "Tough luck, Mario! Princess Toadstool isn't here...Gwa ha ha!!"
567. # [04:09] <reuben> er, I mean right! right is the direction
568. # [04:11] <philor> wait, dao at 5:45? is somebody having a workweek this week?
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583. # [04:25] <imelven> philor: :)
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586. # [04:27] <@khuey> kinetik: I'll take a look i na bit
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588. # [04:28] <philor> okay, anybody else need to go out, while I've got the door open?
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591. # [04:29] <philor> okay, open for the next round
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597. # [04:34] <philor> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=ea3f2bc8bc1e - reftest analyzer - where are the two differing pixels?
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601. # [04:35] <philor> outside the canvas? the muddy brown is too dark to see the red outline on? I've got red-muddybrown colorblindness and I've never noticed before?
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608. # [04:36] <philor> oh, once I zoomed it, I see it's trying to outline the entire canvas, which is a bit surprising for only a 2 pixel difference
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611. # [04:38] <philor> must just be 2 pixels in the test, one that's 99x99 and one that's alltherest
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634. # [05:00] <hub> apparently I can't restore my session
635. # [05:00] <hub> after rebuilding
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643. # [05:12] <hub> ok, bisecting
644. # [05:12] <hub> on a hunch
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657. # [05:21] <kinetik> khuey: thanks!
658. # [05:22] <@khuey> np
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669. # [05:38] <mjrosenb> hey, what is the ancient js rounding bug that has like 80 dupes?
670. # [05:40] <glob> bug 5856 ?
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672. # [05:40] <glob> mjrosenb ^
673. # [05:41] * glob mentions https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/duplicates.cgi in passing
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679. # [05:44] <mjrosenb> glob: danke.
680. # [05:44] <mjrosenb> I found it on my own sort-of separately.
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708. # [06:12] <hub> here is thre regression https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889206
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710. # [06:15] <philor> kinetik: I regret to inform you that MediaSource' : is not a member of 'mozilla::dom::prototypes::id'
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712. # [06:15] <philor> on a CLOSED TREE
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714. # [06:18] <philor> apparently in optland, it is, according to your try push, but THIS IS DEBUG!
715. # [06:19] <@dolske> it's not a coincidence that CLOSED TREE is an anagram of ELECTRODES.
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720. # [06:21] <philor> nor CEDE EL ROTS
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724. # [06:23] <philor> hmm, it isn't in optland either, perhaps it needs a touch of the clobber?
725. # [06:23] <@dolske> DECREE LOST
726. # [06:24] <philor> Ed cot leer is probably an HR violation, though
727. # [06:25] <@dolske> LETS RECODE
728. # [06:25] <philor> choices, choices - if I back it out, my involvement is over, if I clobber I'm on the hook for three or four hours
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730. # [06:26] <kinetik> gah, it built fine locally on linux and osx... i didn't try win32.
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733. # [06:28] <philor> backed out, but that green on try is suspicious (and so are those reds, for that matter, was that a bad parent?)
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735. # [06:29] <kinetik> philor: the red on try (on osx) is fixed in the most recent push
736. # [06:30] <philor> ah, one step forward, one back
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738. # [06:33] <kinetik> philor: thanks for backing out
739. # [06:34] <philor> np
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741. # [06:35] <philor> heh, Dão Gottwald lands again
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744. # [06:36] <reuben> it shows up correctly for me
745. # [06:36] <markh> if I had a pound for every time I saw that...
746. # [06:37] <reuben> hell, even Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) shows up correctly
747. # [06:37] <philor> really, even after RyanVM butchers it?
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749. # [06:37] <philor> how do you get UTF-8->ISO-8859-1->UTF-8 butchery to show up correctly?
750. # [06:38] <reuben> nvm, hgweb shows it correctly, tbpl doesn't
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755. # [06:42] <philor> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83a2966d94fb certainly doesn't show it correctly to me
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758. # [06:43] <philor> while https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/add063e3ff2b, where he pushed it himself from a presumably UTF-8 terminal, does
759. # [06:44] <reuben> TIL people use encodings other than UTF-8 in their terminals
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762. # [06:45] <markh> windows makes it hard to use utf-8 - otoh though, unless he actually typed Dao's name in at the terminal, that shouldn't be relevant - and I doubt he did that?
763. # [06:46] <philor> nice, now jimm's down to just two assertions instead of forty!
764. # [06:47] <markh> it sounds more like mercurial decided to read a .patch file as some encoding other than utf8 - but it would be insane if it chose the terminal encoding for that...
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839. # [08:08] <philor> seriously?
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847. # [08:14] <philor> also, bite me, infra, I'm getting sick of you
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869. # [08:31] <mjrosenb> jesup: ping?
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934. # [09:39] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: whom should Mina Almasry ask for review on a fairly simple list control frame patch?
935. # [09:39] <Ms2ger> mounir as a first approximation, I guess
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939. # [09:46] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: ta
940. # [09:46] <Ms2ger> Or else dbaron, I guess
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956. # [10:01] <jesup> mjrosenb: pong, but about to crash
957. # [10:01] <glandium> jesup: take a stack trace
958. # [10:02] <jesup> The trace is ?? ?? ?? and that's it (arm)
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960. # [10:02] <jesup> gcp is seeing it now too
961. # [10:02] <mjrosenb> jesup: really? I can't imagine that the crash is legit with that stack trace
962. # [10:03] <mjrosenb> there is no way we should ever land there with no stack.
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964. # [10:03] <jesup> It gives me 3 addresses (??'s) and that's all
965. # [10:04] <gcp> rebuilding with the patch in that bug now
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967. # [10:04] <jesup> Right, I think that's with the patch (actually I got similar results stack-wise with both patch 1 and patch 2 IIRC
968. # [10:05] <mjrosenb> jesup: so the first frame is the least belivable, it is not even in the correct function.
969. # [10:05] * mjrosenb wonders if this is just the jit going *bat* *shit* *insane*
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975. # [10:12] <jesup> each patch seems to be a whack-a-mole and causes a new crash elsewhere
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979. # [10:13] <gcp> if so, I will bisect
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982. # [10:16] <gcp> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2585184
983. # [10:16] <mjrosenb> gcp: *that* looks like a resonable backtrace.
984. # [10:17] <mjrosenb> gcp: is there any way I can poke around in gdb over there?
985. # [10:17] <gcp> uhhhmmm
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987. # [10:17] <gcp> this is in a VM, so it'll take a few moments to set up
988. # [10:18] <gcp> do you have something that can do remote desktop?
989. # [10:18] <mjrosenb> gcp: alternately, how on earth did you get that? I don't think i've ever been able to run tests correctly on android.
990. # [10:18] <mjrosenb> gcp: yeah, there is a linux rdesktop client.
991. # [10:18] <gcp> I'm not running any tests, I just launched the broser.
992. # [10:19] <mjrosenb> oh. strange
993. # [10:19] <mjrosenb> maybe I can reproduce this.
994. # [10:19] <mjrosenb> gcp: jimdb?
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996. # [10:19] <gcp> yes
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998. # [10:19] <mjrosenb> ok, i've used that before.
999. # [10:19] <mjrosenb> gcp: and it is with central and the given patches applied?
1000. # [10:20] <gcp> yes
1001. # [10:20] <gcp> 1 patch
1002. # [10:20] <mjrosenb> last question: which device?
1003. # [10:20] <gcp> Bug 888578 - Fix checking for isFloatAddress() in Ion. (r=mjrosenb)
1004. # [10:20] <gcp> Galaxy Tab 10.1, Android 3.2
1005. # [10:21] * mjrosenb hopes it still reproduces wih 4.*
1006. # [10:21] <mjrosenb> since I traded in my tablet running 3.2 the last time I was in MV.
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1008. # [10:23] <mjrosenb> brb, NEEED CAFFEINE
1009. # [10:23] <pnkfelix> bsmedberg: ping
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1022. # [10:34] <gcp_> mjrosenb: so I guess that worked
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1029. # [10:37] <glazou> bonjour
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1031. # [10:38] <gcp_> mjrosenb: ping me when you're done
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1033. # [10:40] <NeilAway> dolske++ for CLOSED TREE == LETS RECODE
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1036. # [10:46] <mjrosenb> gcp_: I am done.
1037. # [10:46] <gcp_> get anything?
1038. # [10:46] <mjrosenb> unfortunately, we throw the assertion far too late for me to actually observe where a bad value gets written
1039. # [10:46] <mjrosenb> but based on the nature of the patch
1040. # [10:47] <mjrosenb> I'm 99% certain I know where to go for the issue.
1041. # [10:47] <mjrosenb> gcp_: knowing that it happens on startup helps a lot though.
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1077. # [11:21] <darktrojan> what timezone is gps?
1078. # [11:21] * darktrojan notices that question could be confusing
1079. # [11:21] <NeilAway> anyone know how to answer the question "How do people usually find their way around the code; by reading it?"
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1081. # [11:21] <darktrojan> "yes"
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1084. # [11:25] <reuben> "MXR"
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1087. # [11:26] <reuben> darktrojan: pacific time unless he's traveling
1088. # [11:26] <darktrojan> thanks reuben
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1108. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> "Firefox 23 will not allow JavaScript to be turned off."
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1110. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> Oh?
1111. # [11:51] <padenot> "with a tickbox in the preferences"
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1117. # [11:55] <reuben> Ms2ger: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851702 / https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=checkboxes-that-kill
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1120. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> marcoz, want to clarify your retweet, then? :)
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1122. # [12:00] <darktrojan> we need a checkbox for turning off all the checkboxes
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1138. # [12:18] <NeilAway> whoa, Windows 8.1 supports Aero Peek over RDP from Windows XP
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1149. # [12:34] <Yoric> !seen mak
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1153. # [12:38] <darktrojan> apparently not
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1156. # [12:41] <Gijs> Yoric: the firebot database is a little funky.
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1158. # [12:41] <Yoric> I see that.
1159. # [12:41] <Gijs> Yoric: so no reliable !seen at the moment. :(
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1162. # [12:44] <darktrojan> gerv, ping?
1163. # [12:44] <gerv> pong.
1164. # [12:44] <Yoric> jlebar|away: ping
1165. # [12:45] <darktrojan> wondering if there's a bug 900000 contest, gerv
1166. # [12:46] <darktrojan> (can't believe how fast we're getting through the bug numbers)
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1176. # [12:56] <Yoric> Is there a way to instruct a thread to stop accepting messages?
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1179. # [12:56] <Yoric> i.e. something like nsIThread::Shutdown() except I don't want the join() between threads, since I'll be calling this from the main thread?
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1190. # [13:10] <paul_> hello, I'm using doc.implementation.createDocument (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/DOMImplementation.createDocument) but sometimes I get an NS_UNEXPECTED_ERROR with no further information. as the namespace I pass null, I also pass null for qualifiedNameStr and for the doc type I pass an [object XrayWrapper [object DocumentType]]. do somebody know in which case I can get this mean exception?
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1193. # [13:11] <Ms2ger> paul_, what's the second argument you pass?
1194. # [13:11] <paul_> null
1195. # [13:12] <Ms2ger> What version?
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1197. # [13:12] <paul_> of firefox? 22
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1199. # [13:14] <paul_> as the first arg I actually pass otherDoc.namespaceURI which is almost always null
1200. # [13:15] <Ms2ger> Maybe smaug has an idea?
1201. # [13:15] <NeilAway> hmm
1202. # [13:16] <NeilAway> what's the best way to handle restartless extensions that need to change preferences from their app default value?
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1204. # [13:17] <darktrojan> how do you mean, handle?
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1228. # [13:39] <darktrojan> wahey, managed to link without it going bOOM
1229. # [13:39] <darktrojan> and in only 17 minutes
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1231. # [13:40] <darktrojan> I hate building
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1246. # [14:00] <@smaug> paul_: what kind of document?
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1248. # [14:01] <paul_> smaug: not sure yet. I guess xhtml
1249. # [14:01] <@smaug> paul_: I mean, where have you got doc
1250. # [14:01] <paul_> doc is a CRM website
1251. # [14:01] <@smaug> ah, not a chrome doc
1252. # [14:01] <paul_> no
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1254. # [14:02] <paul_> the website is inside a <browser> node in untrusted mode
1255. # [14:02] <paul_> and I'm accessing the document with browser.contentDocument
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1260. # [14:04] <@smaug> paul_: is it possible that the document you're accessing has been unloaded already when you try to use .implementation
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1263. # [14:04] <paul_> smaug: no I can see it
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1268. # [14:06] <RyanVM> mayhemer: thanks :)
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1270. # [14:06] <@smaug> paul_: any chance you could run debug build, and check whether you get a warning to terminal about NS_UNEXPECTED_ERROR
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1272. # [14:06] <mayhemer> RyanVM: I don't know when I get to it, but it's some sqlite itchiness...
1273. # [14:06] <paul_> smaug: how can I do that?
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1275. # [14:07] <paul_> never did this before
1276. # [14:07] <@smaug> paul_: run a debug build of firefox
1277. # [14:07] <RyanVM> mayhemer: interesting
1278. # [14:07] <@smaug> oh, you're not paul ?
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1280. # [14:07] <@smaug> but paul_
1281. # [14:07] <paul_> smaug: yes
1282. # [14:07] <paul_> sorry
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1284. # [14:08] <@smaug> paul_: or do you have a testcase I could load?
1285. # [14:09] <paul_> smaug: unfortunately not. the website is inside a VPN
1286. # [14:09] <@smaug> ok. Let me try to find a debug build for you
1287. # [14:09] <@smaug> which OS ?
1288. # [14:09] <marcoz> Ms2ger: Which retweet were you referring to earlier?
1289. # [14:09] <paul_> os x 10.8.4
1290. # [14:10] <Ms2ger> marcoz, the one that said "Firefox 23 will not allow JavaScript to be turned off."
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1292. # [14:11] <marcoz> Ms2ger: What's there to clarify? I was just forwarding information.
1293. # [14:11] <@smaug> paul_: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-06-30-mozilla-release-debug/
1294. # [14:11] <@smaug> and then run it from terminal
1295. # [14:12] <Ms2ger> marcoz, that it isn't true
1296. # [14:12] <paul_> smaug: thanks!
1297. # [14:12] <@smaug> paul_: but let me look at the code too...
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1299. # [14:12] <@smaug> paul_: could you perhaps pastebin the relevant code
1300. # [14:13] <paul_> sure
1301. # [14:13] <marcoz> Ms2ger: Who said that?
1302. # [14:13] <marcoz> Or where's a source that might correct that statement that JS can't be turned off?
1303. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> marcoz, the bug? All that's being removed is a checkbox
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1305. # [14:15] <marcoz> Ms2ger: You speak in riddles, and I am currently not in the mood of solving one. Which bug, what are you referring to *exactly*?
1306. # [14:15] <marcoz> Ms2ger: And no, I don't read whole scroll backs of #developers. I just read your mention of my name.
1307. # [14:15] <Ms2ger> marcoz, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851702
1308. # [14:17] <nigelb> from what I understood, you can still turn it off from about:config.
1309. # [14:17] <nigelb> Correct?
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1311. # [14:17] <marcoz> Ms2ger: To many users, this will be equal to "no longer able to".
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1314. # [14:18] <Ms2ger> marcoz, noscript still works too...
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1316. # [14:19] <marcoz> If you want to, you can tweet and I'll retweet you just as I retweeted the other source.
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1319. # [14:20] <Gijs> marcoz: hiya.
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1321. # [14:21] <Gijs> marcoz: I made that change (after limi's article about how this checkbox, amongst others, was a terrible thing). What are you concerned about?
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1323. # [14:21] <Gijs> marcoz: nigelb is correct in that you can still use about:config or an add-on. We removed primary UI because too many people used it to shoot themselves in the foot, probably in part because of all the java-related crap going around, and people thinking "disabling this is probably a good idea."
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1325. # [14:23] <Gijs> marcoz: in particular, I would have thought that anyone who actually knows what that checkbox does is also technical enough to google and find about:config or an add-on (eg. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/434436 )
1326. # [14:23] <marcoz> Gijs: *I* am not concerned. ms2ger is that the message might go out wrongly that you cannot disable JS *at all* any more. To most users, this distinction, however, will be marginal. I applaud this removal of the checkbox. I've always been of the opinion that disabling JS takes away more than it gains oneself.
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1328. # [14:25] <Gijs> marcoz: OK. Sounds like I misunderstood. Sorry. :)
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1331. # [14:26] <marcoz> Gijs: NP! :)
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1340. # [14:29] <jesup> mjrosenb: it reproduces on my nexus 10 (4.2.2 IIRC)
1341. # [14:30] * NeilAway sighs
1342. # [14:30] <NeilAway> I wish disabling the xul cache still worked
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1345. # [14:32] <NeilAway> oh wait, user error
1346. # [14:33] <NeilAway> well, pymake not being clear that the rebuild failed
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1356. # [14:46] <NeilAway> gavin: should http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/base/content/browser-plugins.js#290 be switched to use getPluginUI instead?
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1379. # [15:10] <Gijs> Can one turn off the screenshot dumping mochitests do?
1380. # [15:10] <Gijs> On retina mac, it's so spammy I lose my console history. :(
1381. # [15:11] <Gijs> (so I can't, you know, actually see error messages or other log info, just a load of base64 gibberish)
1382. # [15:11] <padenot> grep -v data:blahblah?
1383. # [15:11] <mattwoodrow> Gijs: Why not just change the number of lines of scroll back?
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1386. # [15:12] <Gijs> mattwoodrow: because it's a gazillion lines that I'm not interested in anyway? :\
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1388. # [15:12] <Gijs> It's set to 10,000 rows of scrollback
1389. # [15:12] <Gijs> I'm inclined to say if that's not enough it's something to do with the thing that's dumping to my console rather than my settings. :\
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1395. # [15:16] <IanN> anyone successfully building on fedora 18 with a recent trunk? I keep getting checking for gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.25
1396. # [15:16] <IanN> gstreamer-app-0.10
1397. # [15:16] <IanN> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10
1398. # [15:16] <IanN> I have gstreamer-0.10.36-2 and gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-2 but there does not appear to be a gstreamer-app-0.10.36-2 for fedora
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1401. # [15:17] <Gijs> IanN: I don't know anything about fedora but I suspect you want the dev packages.
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1404. # [15:17] <Gijs> are those installed, too?
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1407. # [15:19] <IanN> Gijs: ah it was missing the dev package for gstreamer-plugins-base
1408. # [15:19] <IanN> Gijs: thanks
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1414. # [15:24] <Gijs> IanN: np, glad that helped. :)
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1445. # [15:52] <paul_> hello. I developed a standalone xul app and I always get this exception (translated by me into english): https://gist.github.com/pseidemann/97ec45ae93fec9e6f015. there is no file mentioned and I don't have this line in my code. where could this come from? also I always get this even when I window.open a new chrome window
1446. # [15:52] <paul_> is this xul internal?
1447. # [15:52] <paul_> firefox 20 and 22
1448. # [15:53] <Gijs> paul_: that link redirects to the main gists homepage for me, is it not public?
1449. # [15:54] <paul_> Gijs: can you retry? for me it's working also without a github session
1450. # [15:55] <Gijs> paul_: works now. Uhm, I'm fairly sure that's not going to be our code... how are you checking it's not in your code?
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1452. # [15:56] <paul_> Gijs: I don't have any <div> nor <input> in my *.xul files
1453. # [15:56] <Gijs> note that this looks like it's an (X)HTML div that says to turn the default namespace inside of it to the XUL one, and then tries to use non-XML HTML inside it. Even if you closed that node, it might not do what you expect. :s
1454. # [15:56] <Gijs> paul_: do you load any kind of content from anywhere else?
1455. # [15:56] <Gijs> and/or is your source available anywhere? :)
1456. # [15:57] <Gijs> (anywhere else usually being the web or some REST/SOAP/whatever server)
1457. # [15:57] <glazou> paul: your <div> seems to be in the XUL namespace...
1458. # [15:57] <glazou> s/paul/paul_
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1461. # [15:58] <paul_> Gijs: I do inside a xul:browser but I changed it now to about:blank. still the same issue. I searched globally for "input" and "div". nothing found
1462. # [15:58] <paul_> my source is closed
1463. # [15:58] <Gijs> paul_: what kind of content are you loading inside the xul:browser?
1464. # [15:58] <glazou> are you using an inline code editor like codemirror or something like that?
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1466. # [15:58] <Gijs> XUL, XML, HTML, ...?
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1468. # [15:59] <paul_> Gijs: currently about:blank
1469. # [15:59] <paul_> glazou: no
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1471. # [15:59] <Gijs> where does this error show up? It should normally come with location information... :s
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1473. # [16:00] <paul_> it only says line 1. no file. it even appears before the "opengl layermanager initialized" message
1474. # [16:00] <paul_> which was always the first log in the console before this bug
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1476. # [16:01] <paul_> when I double click it the source preview is just blank
1477. # [16:02] <Gijs> paul_: you said you translated it - what's the original message?
1478. # [16:03] * Gijs can't search for this translated error. :(
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1480. # [16:03] <paul_> https://gist.github.com/pseidemann/159f02d8e054d67130fa
1481. # [16:04] <mjrosenb> ugh. why is adb not working.
1482. # [16:04] <mjrosenb> this is not a good start to my morning.
1483. # [16:04] <Gijs> it's so nice that mxr is unicode aware. :(
1484. # [16:04] <mjrosenb> adb: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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1488. # [16:05] <mjrosenb> lib32ncurses5: that's likely the culprit.
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1492. # [16:05] <paul_> glazou: Gijs: ideas?
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1494. # [16:06] <Gijs> paul_: did you build gecko from scratch and/or have a debug environment?
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1496. # [16:06] <glazou> paul_: w/o access to your code, sorry, no
1497. # [16:06] <paul_> Gijs: I have a debug build available but now it running end user firefox 20
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1499. # [16:06] <Gijs> paul_: the error is from expat, so without seeing your code, the only thing I can think of is setting a breakpoint in the expat error reporting and checking the stack to see where this is coming from
1500. # [16:07] <mjrosenb> gcp: ok, did no reproduce on my s2
1501. # [16:07] <paul_> Gijs: what is expat?
1502. # [16:07] <Gijs> the xml parser.
1503. # [16:08] <paul_> Gijs: I never did this before. is this easy and takes only a short time?
1504. # [16:08] <Gijs> paul_: if you've never debugged C++ before, definitely 'no' for the first question. The second one, it sort of depends.
1505. # [16:09] <paul_> Gijs: but isn't it logical that when there is no source file mentioned that it is then a internal bug?
1506. # [16:09] <Gijs> paul_: but really, easier would be first auditing your use of XMLHttpRequest etc.
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1508. # [16:09] <Six> jdm: hi
1509. # [16:09] <Gijs> paul_: it's logical that it not showing any source file info is an internal bug.
1510. # [16:10] <Gijs> but if we don't know where this comes from I wouldn't say it's an internal bug. I certainly don't see it when I start my build. :)
1511. # [16:10] <paul_> Gijs: ok I will try to opt out my javascript to be sure it's not from an external source
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1513. # [16:10] <gcp> lsblakk: ping
1514. # [16:10] <Six> bsmedberg: hi
1515. # [16:11] <@bsmedberg> Six: hello
1516. # [16:11] <Six> bsmedberg: i just want to be sure i have well understand your last comment about bug 883360
1517. # [16:11] <Six> bsmedberg: you say we should mark this as wont-fix ?
1518. # [16:11] <@bsmedberg> Six: I'm saying that we should make it totally non-boolean
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1520. # [16:12] <@bsmedberg> by removing the cast operator
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1524. # [16:13] <paul_> Gijs: glazou: ok got it. the bug only appears when I add this line to my xul file: <script type="application/javascript" src="chrome://rts-gui/content/javascripts/libs/jquery-2.0.2.min.js" /> jquery 2. but why/how is this appearing?
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1527. # [16:14] <glazou> because jQuery does not work with XUL any more
1528. # [16:14] <glazou> it sopped doing so looooong ago
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1530. # [16:14] <glazou> stopped even
1531. # [16:14] <Gijs> paul_: because jquery isn't made to run in XUL documents. At a minimum, it runs a whole bunch of support tests by creating and randomly appending HTML, which is unlikely to fly in a XUL document.
1532. # [16:14] <paul_> really?
1533. # [16:15] <glazou> yes really
1534. # [16:15] <paul_> aaah okay
1535. # [16:15] <paul_> this makes sense
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1537. # [16:15] <paul_> I always thougt to refactor my code in the way that no jquery at all is needed. probably I will do it
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1540. # [16:17] <paul_> glazou: do you know the latest jqery version which is fully compatible with xul?
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1543. # [16:19] <paul_> but please fix expat that it always shows a file or some kind of backtrace so I don't have to ask :P
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1545. # [16:20] <glazou> the last one I verified as working with XUL was a 1.2.6 IIRC, so _really_ long ago
1546. # [16:20] <paul_> maybe this is enough. thanks!
1547. # [16:20] <glazou> current 1.x stream is at 1.10.x
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1549. # [16:21] <Gijs> paul_: I suspect jQuery might be doing it inside a dom fragment, and changing expat to work when doing XML manipulation inside JS might be 'hard'. But if you want, you could file a bug with clear steps to reproduce (minimal testcase, as it were)
1550. # [16:22] <glazou> Gijs: jQuery isvery html-centric anyway
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1552. # [16:22] <Gijs> glazou: right; this would be about making expat provide better error messages, not about making jQuery work.
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1554. # [16:22] <glazou> ah ok :-D
1555. # [16:23] <Gijs> wild goose chases are never fun
1556. # [16:23] <paul_> yeah this isn't really a jquery issue
1557. # [16:23] <Gijs> (unless actual geese are involved, I guess... I've never tried)
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1560. # [16:24] <Six> bsmedberg: thx, so i just need to remove operator nsMainThreadPtrHandle::nsMainThreadPtrHolder<T>*(), i will test a build with this to see if it's ok
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1567. # [16:28] <paul_> Gijs: glazou: waiiiit. http://blog.jquery.com/2013/04/18/jquery-2-0-released/ this website says: "How to Use It => Mozilla XUL apps and Firefox extensions"
1568. # [16:28] <paul_> so this IS actually also a jquery problem by definition
1569. # [16:29] <glazou> paul_: " Many of these environments are themselves a work in progress "
1570. # [16:29] <paul_> work in progress release?
1571. # [16:29] <glazou> read the prose
1572. # [16:31] <paul_> ok
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1576. # [16:32] <paul_> well fair enough. so I could report it
1577. # [16:32] <jwir3> is there an easy wasy to run reftest-nonaccel on linux?
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1581. # [16:33] <jwir3> (i.e. locally)
1582. # [16:33] <jwir3> obviously, I can run it on try-server ;)
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1586. # [16:34] <TheOne> does anyone know how to contact Brian Smith?
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1588. # [16:34] <mjrosenb> jesup: ping?
1589. # [16:35] <jesup> mjrosenb: pong
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1602. # [16:46] <mjrosenb> jesup: ok, so I was not able to reproduce the bug on my galaxy tab2 (10.1) with every update that it asked me to install
1603. # [16:46] <mjrosenb> jesup: at least trying a few sample pages didn't give any crashes
1604. # [16:46] <mjrosenb> hrmm
1605. # [16:47] <mjrosenb> is this a debug build?
1606. # [16:47] <mjrosenb> it must be
1607. # [16:47] <jesup> yes
1608. # [16:47] <mjrosenb> because we wouldn't be throwing an assertion failure in an opt build
1609. # [16:47] <mjrosenb> jesup: both debug and opt, or just debug without opt?
1610. # [16:47] <jesup> Mine crashes shortly after oeping a window
1611. # [16:47] <jesup> debug with no opt
1612. # [16:48] <mjrosenb> jesup: well, that will make debugging easier.
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1614. # [16:48] <@ted> TheOne: he'd be bsmith if he was on irc, or that @mozilla.com
1615. # [16:49] <jesup> gcp and cpeterson (at least) are seeing it as well
1616. # [16:49] <jesup> gcp was getting real stacks
1617. # [16:49] <TheOne> ted: thx
1618. # [16:49] <gcp> I was using -O1 -g
1619. # [16:50] <ferjm> hi! I need to add an #ifdef to https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/apps/src/Webapps.manifest How can I tell the text preprocessor to take that file into account?
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1664. # [17:12] <Gijs> ferjm: in the moz.build file, move the reference from EXTRA_COMPONENTS to EXTRA_PP_COMPONENTS
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1673. # [17:16] <ferjm> Gijs, great, thanks!
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1685. # [17:21] <@ehsan> is zimbra broken for anybody else?
1686. # [17:22] <bent> ehsan, seems to work for me
1687. # [17:22] <@ehsan> huh
1688. # [17:22] <till> works for me, too
1689. # [17:22] <Callek> ehsan: --> #servicedesk
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1691. # [17:22] <Callek> it wfm though
1692. # [17:22] <Callek> (of course I haven't logged out in at least a day)
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1730. # [17:43] <froydnj> should merge in stages, just to be nice
1731. # [17:44] <RyanVM> froydnj: i'm torn on that - seems merge pain isn't factoring into anyone's prioritization of getting m-c reopened...
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1737. # [17:46] <RyanVM> froydnj: doesn't seem like anyone even wants to step up on owning it
1738. # [17:46] <@khuey> what's the merge problem?
1739. # [17:47] <RyanVM> khuey: just that it's going to be massive
1740. # [17:48] <RyanVM> since m-c's been closed for over a day now
1741. # [17:48] <@khuey> oh, fun
1742. # [17:48] <RyanVM> and isn't showing signs of opening soon
1743. # [17:48] <@khuey> how did that happen?
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1745. # [17:48] <Gijs> does it look like it's openin... right.
1746. # [17:48] <RyanVM> see the message at the top of tbpl
1747. # [17:48] <@khuey> fun
1748. # [17:49] <Gijs> RyanVM: speaking as someone who spent a couple of days trying to debug a merge-induced failure that disappeared magically before the cause was ever found, I would be very happy if stuff was merged in stages... :\
1749. # [17:49] <@khuey> 889384 seems easy to fix
1750. # [17:49] <@khuey> just hide the build
1751. # [17:49] <Gijs> (merging to UX, that is)
1752. # [17:49] <RyanVM> khuey: I'd rather we just stopped building it since nobody apparently actually cares much about keeping it green anyway
1753. # [17:50] <@khuey> er, wait
1754. # [17:50] <RyanVM> it's important, but not that important
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1756. # [17:50] <@khuey> is this patch in my review queue the thing blocking reopening the tree?
1757. # [17:50] <@khuey> or maybe not
1758. # [17:50] * @khuey is confused
1759. # [17:50] <RyanVM> looks like it's the main issue, yes
1760. # [17:50] <RyanVM> not that dependency was marked or anything...
1761. # [17:50] <@khuey> well comment 16 seems to think this patch will make it worse ...
1762. # [17:51] <RyanVM> ah, yes
1763. # [17:51] <RyanVM> that patch will just let us catch this sooner in the future
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1768. # [17:53] <@khuey> RyanVM: so what do we back out to fix this?
1769. # [17:54] <RyanVM> good question
1770. # [17:54] <RyanVM> nightly-only bustage is hard to track down
1771. # [17:54] <RyanVM> if we knew that, it already would be
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1773. # [17:55] <RyanVM> khuey: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=8e3a124c9c1a&tochange=c5ce065936fa is the regression range
1774. # [17:55] <@khuey> so we just timeout on talos?
1775. # [17:55] <RyanVM> and other suites
1776. # [17:55] <RyanVM> crashtests, jsreftests, reftests
1777. # [17:55] <RyanVM> xpcshell
1778. # [17:56] <RyanVM> jetpack
1779. # [17:56] <@khuey> d8d194d3dcc1 is one candidate
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1783. # [17:57] <RyanVM> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888765#c1
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1786. # [17:58] <@khuey> ok so it's not that
1787. # [17:58] * froydnj doesn't understand how that Accumulate call resolves to mozilla::Telemetry::Accumulate
1788. # [17:58] <@khuey> there's some windows 8 stuff in here ...
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1794. # [18:00] <@khuey> RyanVM: so this has been broken for 4 or 5 days?
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1797. # [18:01] <RyanVM> yep
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1799. # [18:01] <@khuey> RyanVM: have you talked to the metro people about this?
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1804. # [18:02] <RyanVM> nope, guess it can't hurt though
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1812. # [18:04] <@khuey> jimm: ping?
1813. # [18:05] <jimm> khuey: hey
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1819. # [18:05] <@khuey> jimm: have you seen bug 888765?
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1826. # [18:07] <jimm> khuey: first time looking at it
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1829. # [18:08] <shu> gcp: ping
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1831. # [18:08] <gcp> pong
1832. # [18:08] <shu> gcp: i saw that you got a working stack trace for bug 888578
1833. # [18:09] <gcp> yes, and it reproduces for me
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1836. # [18:09] <shu> gcp: is there something i can read for how to compile and test this locally? i'm not a b2g dev and i'm pretty out of the loop
1837. # [18:09] <shu> (on b2g)
1838. # [18:09] <gcp> this is on Android
1839. # [18:09] <shu> gcp: i thought it was cedar
1840. # [18:09] <shu> gcp: this is for fennec?
1841. # [18:09] <gcp> no, it's on mozilla-central
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1843. # [18:10] <gcp> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fennec/Android
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1845. # [18:10] <mjrosenb> /home/mjrosenb/android/android-ndk-r8d/toolchains/arm-linux-androideabi-4.6/prebuilt/linux-x86/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-androideabi/4.6/../../../../arm-linux-androideabi/bin/ld: /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-888578/objs/android-dbg/toolkit/library/../../dom/plugins/base/nsNPAPIPlugin.o: in function mozilla::plugins::parent::_getvalue(_NPP*, NPNVariable, void*):/home/mjrosenb/src/central/central-888578/dom/plugins/base/nsNPAPIPlugin.
1846. # [18:10] <gcp> this is pretty much completely blocking Android debugging
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1848. # [18:10] <mjrosenb> :(
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1851. # [18:12] <jimm> khuey: so the issue is the timeouts on tests, and it's only happening on win8?
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1853. # [18:12] <@khuey> jimm: yeah
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1855. # [18:13] <@khuey> the only thing I see in the regression range that looks win8 specific is 875892
1856. # [18:13] <gcp> shu: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888578#c3
1857. # [18:14] <shu> gcp: okay, i'm trying to get an android toolchain up and running
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1866. # [18:15] <@khuey> jimm: ^
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1868. # [18:16] <shu> gcp: am i correct in understanding i need a phone to push the compiled binary to?
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1870. # [18:16] <jimm> khuey: that's all metro code
1871. # [18:17] <@khuey> jimm: right ...
1872. # [18:17] * jld does have a b2g toolchain
1873. # [18:17] * jld would like b2g to stop being on fire
1874. # [18:17] <jimm> khuey: bug 873073 looks a little suspect, but that's not win8 specific
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1876. # [18:17] <@khuey> jimm: wrong bug #?
1877. # [18:17] * jld has writing of code to procrastinate about
1878. # [18:17] <jimm> khuey: this doesn't happen on inbound with the same type of build?
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1880. # [18:17] <@khuey> jimm: well we don't do nightlies on inbound ...
1881. # [18:17] <gcp> shu: uuh, theorethically it works with the emulator, but I've never used that
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1884. # [18:18] <@khuey> so it wouldn't show up there
1885. # [18:18] <gps> jwatt: pong
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1887. # [18:18] <jimm> khuey: we do pgo builds there though
1888. # [18:18] <jwatt> gps: see your bugmail in due time
1889. # [18:18] <mjrosenb> jld: is this the assertion failure deep in the bowels of the assembler?
1890. # [18:19] <@khuey> jimm: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888765#c3
1891. # [18:19] <@khuey> it's not PGO, it's nightlies
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1893. # [18:19] <jld> mjrosenb: I'm going to try to take a look at 888578
1894. # [18:19] * kats|away is now known as kats
1895. # [18:19] <gcp> shu: seriously, get an Android phone. Everone at Mozilla should have two :P
1896. # [18:20] <mjrosenb> gcp: I have like 4 :-/
1897. # [18:20] <froydnj> two?
1898. # [18:20] * jld waits patiently for build
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1901. # [18:21] <jimm> khuey: huh, nightlies aren't pgo'd?
1902. # [18:21] <shu> jld: so
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1904. # [18:21] <@khuey> jimm: nightlies are PGOd
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1906. # [18:21] <@khuey> jimm: but this problem doesn't have anything to do with PGO
1907. # [18:21] <shu> jld: FLOAT_ADDRESS is something i added to enable the move emitter to emit moves of doubles from stack addresses into floating registers
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1909. # [18:21] <@khuey> jimm: it has to do with MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL being nightly, which turns on telemetry
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1912. # [18:22] <shu> jld: i, not running on arm, assumed that it worked on arm, which we now see was a horribly wrong assumption
1913. # [18:22] <@smaug> philor: ping
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1915. # [18:22] <jld> shu: So... the thing that started the bug was that it needed to move a double from memory into integer registers.
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1918. # [18:22] <jimm> khuey: gotcha
1919. # [18:22] <@smaug> philor: do we happen to have some meta bug for random orange where the reason is something like "waiting for focus"
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1921. # [18:22] <shu> jld: it looks like the HARDFP cases work fine but something's going on with SOFTFP
1922. # [18:22] <froydnj> khuey: and it doesn't show up on other platforms for nightlies?
1923. # [18:23] <@khuey> froydnj: no it's metro only, afawct
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1925. # [18:23] <@khuey> which is why I'm wondering if bug 875892 makes us not dismiss a telemetry dialog or something and then not run tests
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1927. # [18:23] <shu> jld: and i don't really know enough about the arm assembler or even have a working arm workflow to reproduce this locally, which has made that bug painful
1928. # [18:23] <philor> smaug: I don't think we do anymore, we did long ago when we couldn't manage to get Linux to focus, but we've sort of stopped doing that so much these days
1929. # [18:24] <jld> shu: Well, once this build finishes... and if I crash on that bug and not some other one...
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1931. # [18:24] <@gavin> NeilAway: maybe? better to ask jaws
1932. # [18:24] <philor> khuey: I may have forgotten what I pushed to try, but I think I pushed telemetry-on-no-PGO and didn't get the failure
1933. # [18:24] <gcp> froydnj: at least 2: one to debug with and one so you can actually take phone calls without messing up your debugging session :P
1934. # [18:25] <jaws> hi
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1937. # [18:25] <philor> and unless we start up the browser, kill it, and only then take the screenshot, the screenshot in the reftest logs says we aren't even starting up, rather than starting and having a notification in the way
1938. # [18:25] <jaws> i must be missing something here. gavin, what did NeilAway say?
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1941. # [18:26] <shu> jld: i don't know what the correct fix is supposed to be, actually
1942. # [18:26] <Gijs> jaws: should http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/browser/base/content/browser-plugins.js#290 be switched to use getPluginUI instead? (cc gavin)
1943. # [18:26] <shu> jld: mjrosenb tells me that the softfp abi requires float args to be passed in certain int regs?
1944. # [18:27] <philor> khuey: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2a8eba4d07fb is telemetry but not PGO, no failure
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1946. # [18:27] <shu> actually mjrosenb: ping
1947. # [18:27] <jaws> Gijs: thanks!
1948. # [18:27] <jaws> it was further back in scrollback than i was expecting
1949. # [18:28] <@khuey> philor: so this is a telemetry + pgo problem?
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1952. # [18:29] <philor> khuey: that's my theory, yeah
1953. # [18:29] <jaws> NeilAway: seems so, i don't think we've been using getPluginUI enough now that you point it out
1954. # [18:30] <@khuey> ok
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1961. # [18:31] <jimm> khuey: bug 875892 is a metrofx front end fix, which only loads in 'mc' tests.
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1974. # [18:37] <froydnj> khuey: o rly
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1978. # [18:39] <philor> despite gavin not liking it, I still think that's the correct solution - telemetry has sinned, needs to be punished, and is welcome to come back when it's not nightly-only and doesn't break tests
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1980. # [18:40] <@khuey> indeed
1981. # [18:40] <@gavin> no
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1983. # [18:41] <@gavin> I'm in the office and have a windows machine today, I can try to look into it later
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1985. # [18:42] <@khuey> I'm disabling it now, we can turn it back on once we have a fix
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1987. # [18:43] <@gavin> khuey: what problem are you solving by disabling it?
1988. # [18:43] <@khuey> gavin: the problem where the tree is closed
1989. # [18:43] <@gavin> why not leave it enabled and reopen the tree?
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1991. # [18:43] <@khuey> because tests are failing randomly?
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1993. # [18:44] <@gavin> not randomly, on nightly builds only
1994. # [18:44] * Waldo misses firebot push notifications :-(
1995. # [18:44] <philor> yeah, we're just not testing the thing that we ship, that's not a problem is it?
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1997. # [18:44] <@gavin> right, it likely isn't
1998. # [18:44] <philor> unless, of course, it actually doesn't start up for users in the same way it doesn't start up for us
1999. # [18:45] <@gavin> if that was the case we'd have heard plenty of feedback from nightly users by now!
2000. # [18:45] * rail_away is now known as rail
2001. # [18:46] <philor> and the b2g desktop windows nightly thing that also has m-c closed... screw it, I hate b2g
2002. # [18:46] <@gavin> you really can't assume that tests failing == world is over
2003. # [18:46] * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen
2004. # [18:46] <philor> sure
2005. # [18:46] <jld> ...well, the build is done, but my device won't boot.
2006. # [18:46] <@gavin> because history has proven that not to be true
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2008. # [18:46] <@ted> philor: think i tracked that down
2009. # [18:46] <philor> personally, I assume == impossible to tell whether or not
2010. # [18:46] <@ted> commented in the bug
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2012. # [18:46] <jld> Of course as soon as I say that it decides to cooperate.
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2015. # [18:48] <reuben> jld: as a kid I'd keep falsely wishing for the opposite of what I wanted hoping the universe would hear me and do that
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2017. # [18:48] * @khuey hides builds, reopens the tree
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2020. # [18:49] <@khuey> grabbing the tip of m-i probably wasn't the smartest move
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2022. # [18:50] <Waldo> khuey: I work off m-i regularly, it's really not that common that I hit huge bustage when I rebase against tip
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2024. # [18:50] <gps> if we exposed a "is this build green" API, I would code up a Mercurial extension to pull the last green changeset
2025. # [18:51] <@khuey> Waldo: yeah well I just pushed it to mozilla-central
2026. # [18:51] <Waldo> ...oh :-)
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2028. # [18:51] <@ted> i usually just build against m-c unless i need to rebase nontrivial patches for landing
2029. # [18:52] * mgerva is now known as mgerva|afk
2030. # [18:52] <Waldo> maybe JS just interacts with other stuff enough that working against m-c tends to make for bitrotty stuff
2031. # [18:52] <Ms2ger> gps, if we could expose that API, we could put our sheriffs on other stuff ;)
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2033. # [18:53] <@khuey> at least I finally have treestatus access
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2039. # [18:56] * @dolske misses http://isthetreegreen.com/
2040. # [18:56] <Gijs> who owns that?
2041. # [18:56] <Waldo> dolske does
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2045. # [18:57] <Gijs> I think gps just committed to writing an hg extension that lets you auto-fetch last green push if we had an API that did what that URL says it should do...
2046. # [18:57] * Waldo had the idea for that in December 2008 but never mentioned it to anyone, meaning in his copious spare time to make it, then someone else independently came up with the idea :-)
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2051. # [18:57] <Gijs> what's required to get that working again?
2052. # [18:57] <@dolske> time
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2054. # [18:58] <Ms2ger> dolske, just redirect it to data:text/html,NO
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2056. # [18:58] <reuben> Gijs: we do: https://treestatus.mozilla.org/mozilla-inbound?format=json :)
2057. # [18:58] <@dolske> Ms2ger: grumpytree.com
2058. # [18:58] <reuben> if status != "open", abort pull
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2060. # [18:59] * Waldo saw a grumpycat auto decal recently
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2062. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> Oh crap, Waldo found me
2063. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> Is this Soviet Russia?
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2071. # [19:01] <@dolske> NO
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2077. # [19:04] <taras> so what does firefox do when i press ctrl+shift+n? what use is a busted persona dialog?
2078. # [19:04] <jdm> taras: it reopens the last closed window
2079. # [19:04] <taras> ah, which in my case is always persona
2080. # [19:04] <taras> gotcha
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2084. # [19:07] <NeilAway> gps: we do, it's called m-c
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2117. # [19:20] <jcranmer> dolske: just redirect http://isthetreegreen.com to data:text/html,<font size="100em">NO!</font>
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2127. # [19:23] <philor> khuey: um, "hides builds"?
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2129. # [19:24] <@khuey> philor: yeah I hid the b2g desktop nighlies for windows
2130. # [19:24] <@khuey> at least I think that's what I did ;-)
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2132. # [19:26] <@khuey> yay bustage
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2135. # [19:27] <@ted> bsmedberg: so we could write an add-on to get the old click-to-play UI back?
2136. # [19:27] <@bsmedberg> yes
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2140. # [19:28] <jld> OMG IT WORKS.
2141. # [19:28] <jld> Maybe.
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2144. # [19:28] <@ted> bsmedberg: that would be swell, i really like the old behavior
2145. # [19:28] <RyanVM> errr, why did we merge inbound tip to m-c?
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2147. # [19:28] <@ted> actually i kind of wish i could turn off plugin popups at all on some of my firefoxes though, where i don't have any plugins installed
2148. # [19:28] <@khuey> RyanVM: because I'm an idiot
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2150. # [19:29] <@khuey> :-)
2151. # [19:29] <RyanVM> sweet, now I can backout bustage from two trees
2152. # [19:29] <@khuey> I already backed it out of inbound
2153. # [19:29] <@khuey> I just didn't merge yet
2154. # [19:29] <@khuey> waiting to see what else happens
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2161. # [19:31] <RyanVM> khuey: also, is there a bug filed for un-hiding the windows b2g builds?
2162. # [19:32] <philor> try might be saying that emk needs a clobber, or that that failure is unrelated, or that something landed under him that broke him
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2165. # [19:33] <@khuey> RyanVM: well presumably we can use the same bug
2166. # [19:34] <RyanVM> also, where's the telemetry-disabling push?
2167. # [19:34] <@khuey> gavin talked me into not disabling it
2168. # [19:34] <RyanVM> so we're exactly where we were when the tree was closed for the last day
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2170. # [19:35] <RyanVM> except hiding or pushing off the problems
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2175. # [19:36] <RyanVM> khuey: oh, and are you going to run mcMerge on that push?
2176. # [19:37] * froydnj is running some win pgo + telemetry builds in that pushlog range
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2178. # [19:38] <@khuey> RyanVM: I was hoping you would :-)
2179. # [19:38] <RyanVM> thanks for the heads-up
2180. # [19:38] * @khuey was waiting for you to come back from lunch :-P
2181. # [19:38] <@khuey> sorry if I'm dumping work on you
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2183. # [19:39] <RyanVM> well, I'm more annoyed that ultimately we kept the tree closed for a day for no apparent reason
2184. # [19:39] <@khuey> yeah me too :-)
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2190. # [19:40] <RyanVM> I'm also planning to push for the windows b2g builds to be turned off
2191. # [19:40] <RyanVM> hiding them every time they break is not acceptable
2192. # [19:41] <philor> but at least we learned that we don't care about test failures on nightlies, so we've got that going for us!
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2203. # [19:46] <@ted> heh, IE11 has "like Gecko" in the UI string
2204. # [19:46] <@ted> and no "MSIE"
2205. # [19:46] <philor> eh, everyone will recognize it from Trident
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2208. # [19:46] <@ted> so now they have two tokens where they pretend to be Mozilla, and only one where they claim to be IE
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2213. # [19:46] <jcranmer> so, wait
2214. # [19:47] <@ted> philor: Trident only showed up in IE9 apparently
2215. # [19:47] <jorendorff> Is there open-source software that computes transcendental functions with arbitrary precision?
2216. # [19:47] <jcranmer> now all major UA strings will have Gecko in them?
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2218. # [19:47] <@ted> supposedly this is to intentionally break old sniffing code
2219. # [19:47] <@ted> jcranmer: that seems possible
2220. # [19:47] <@ted> does that mean we win?
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2222. # [19:47] <@ted> they'll all have Mozilla/5.0 *and* Gecko
2223. # [19:47] <@khuey> we already won
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2225. # [19:47] <@khuey> they've had Mozilla for a long time
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2228. # [19:49] <jwir3> jorendorff: does mpmath for python do arbitrary precision?
2229. # [19:49] * jorendorff looks
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2235. # [19:51] <@ted> heh, they also changed navigator.appName=="Netscape" and navigator.product=="Gecko"
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2238. # [19:51] <gcp> jld: can you put up a patch?
2239. # [19:52] <jld> gcp: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2586288 but I suspect it has a subtle bug.
2240. # [19:52] <@ted> http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2013/07/02/internet-explorer-11-dont-call-me-ie/
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2264. # [19:58] * jcranmer wonders when the world will finally drop the Mozilla/5.0 tag
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2266. # [19:58] <sicking> fabrice: hey, you pang yesterday
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2268. # [20:00] <fabrice> sicking: hmm.. yes. About Bug 835379. Comment 35 and 37 don't match it seems. I went with 37
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2271. # [20:00] * abr chuckles at the conjucation "pang"
2272. # [20:00] <Waldo> ted: http://i.qkme.me/3v1oc5.jpg
2273. # [20:00] <Waldo> coming to a mozillamemes near you
2274. # [20:01] <froydnj> jorendorff: mpfr is probably what you want (bigfloat for a python wrapper)
2275. # [20:01] <froydnj> yuck, 24 minutes to build
2276. # [20:01] <jorendorff> froydnj: i think mpmath is what i want
2277. # [20:01] <jorendorff> jwir3++
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2279. # [20:01] <@ted> heh
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2282. # [20:02] <@ted> jcranmer: i assume there are still stupid UA sniffers looking for it
2283. # [20:02] <@ted> for no reason since it's in everything
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2290. # [20:03] <@ted> why are our xpcshell tests so much slower on win7/win8 than on xp?
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2292. # [20:03] <froydnj> jorendorff: huh, I had not seen mpmath before, interesting
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2294. # [20:03] <sicking> fabrice: looking
2295. # [20:03] <froydnj> ted: is this is the "sqlite and disk io sucks on windows" problem?
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2298. # [20:04] <@ted> winxp opt is like 27 mins on my try push, win7 opt is 54, win8 opt is 64(!)
2299. # [20:04] <jaws> what vidyo room is the platform meeting in?
2300. # [20:04] <@ted> froydnj: but why is it so much faster on XP than 7/8?
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2302. # [20:04] <sicking> fabrice: how do they not match?
2303. # [20:04] <jaws> nvm
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2305. # [20:04] <froydnj> ted: that I do not know
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2307. # [20:05] <froydnj> maybe some comparison of the timings from the logs would be instructive
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2310. # [20:05] <fabrice> sicking: nvm, I can't read :(
2311. # [20:05] <sicking> fabrice: :)
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2313. # [20:05] * @ted will file a bug on this
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2315. # [20:06] <dougt> lmandel: this list is getting longer. esp. the b2g section.
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2317. # [20:07] <@khuey> yeah B2G grew a lot
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2320. # [20:08] <Ms2ger> khuey, ... of crap?
2321. # [20:09] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
2322. # [20:09] <lmandel> dougt: Yeah. We need to see how this plays out.
2323. # [20:09] <@khuey> most of the people listed are asleep
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2328. # [20:10] <dougt> Mossop: didn't mean to throw you under the bus. :p
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2331. # [20:11] <reuben> what list?
2332. # [20:11] <Mossop> dougt: I'd already volunteered. I think I'm about the only one who needs it running
2333. # [20:11] * Ms2ger accidentally throws dougt under a bus
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2335. # [20:12] <qDot> With all this bus throwing, good thing it's only BART on strike.
2336. # [20:12] <dougt> Ms2ger: i just threw joduinn-mtg under a bus
2337. # [20:12] <dougt> but he wanted to be thrown.
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2339. # [20:13] <jwir3> jorendorff: np
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2346. # [20:16] <dougt> man.. throwing everyone under the bus
2347. # [20:16] * jcranmer throws a bus under the bus
2348. # [20:17] <@ehsan> anybody backing out emk?
2349. # [20:17] <RyanVM> ehsan: i will
2350. # [20:17] <@ehsan> RyanVM: is that the only bustage we have?
2351. # [20:17] <@ehsan> cause I have something to land...
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2354. # [20:18] <philor> yeah, we should open up all the trees and land all the things!
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2356. # [20:18] <philor> nothing's ever gone wrong for us doing that
2357. # [20:19] * RyanVM glances over at m-c
2358. # [20:19] <philor> it hasn't *shown* its bustage yet
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2361. # [20:20] <mwu> unagi is gonna break on m-c
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2363. # [20:21] <mwu> it has the libpng update but not the backout
2364. # [20:21] <_AxS_> mwu: ?
2365. # [20:21] <mwu> what?
2366. # [20:22] <_AxS_> ff works with libpng-1.6 doesn't it? i'm sure gentoo's building it against the system libpng right now
2367. # [20:22] <mwu> yes, but this particular in tree update didn't account for new neon functions
2368. # [20:22] <mwu> so, it's broken
2369. # [20:22] <_AxS_> ahh..
2370. # [20:23] <dholbert> So it looks like emk's bustage is real, on the OS X "Bg" builds
2371. # [20:23] <dholbert> "CoreLocationLocationProvider.mm:86:23: error: use of undeclared identifier 'PR_Now'"
2372. # [20:24] <dholbert> which seems likely to have been caused by his patch, " Stop including prtime.h"
2373. # [20:24] <dholbert> oh, and RyanVM already backed him out. Never mind
2374. # [20:24] <RyanVM> dholbert: given the current state of m-c, I need something on inbound I can merge ASAP
2375. # [20:24] <dholbert> RyanVM, absolutely, yeah
2376. # [20:25] <RyanVM> so I'm being conservative about reopening until I'm sure we're OK
2377. # [20:25] <dougt> vladan: did you just give that update?
2378. # [20:25] <@khuey> he did
2379. # [20:25] <vladan> dougt: yes
2380. # [20:25] <dougt> writeAtomic() -- you should probably run through the users of that and see if anyone really needs a fsync
2381. # [20:25] <dougt> there aren't more than a hundred or so.
2382. # [20:26] <dholbert> RyanVM, are you already composing a backout-comment? if not, I can post one
2383. # [20:26] <dholbert> RyanVM, (on emk's bug)
2384. # [20:26] <vladan> dougt: most callers are in our unit tests, and i think Yoric already went through the callers
2385. # [20:27] <dougt> coolio
2386. # [20:27] <RyanVM> dholbert: I am not yet
2387. # [20:27] <dholbert> RyanVM, k, I'm on it
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2402. # [20:34] <dholbert> rnewman, ping
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2413. # [20:37] <rnewman> dholbert: hi
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2418. # [20:38] <dholbert> rnewman, never mind. had a question about correct component for that FHR on android bug, but it was just duped, so n/m
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2420. # [20:38] <rnewman> everything you see in about:healthreport is Web: Health Report, for future reference
2421. # [20:38] <rnewman> it's all loaded from fhr.cdn.mozilla.net
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2423. # [20:39] <rnewman> Client: Android is if you see an error in adb logcat
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2425. # [20:39] <dholbert> interesting, ok.
2426. # [20:39] <dholbert> rnewman, the descriptions at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Firefox%20Health%20Report could probably use some clarification then
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2429. # [20:40] <dholbert> ("For all FHR issues related to Firefox for Android " vs. ""or all bugs in the web-served user-facing report")
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2431. # [20:40] <dholbert> s/"or/For/
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2435. # [20:41] <rnewman> if we put the components in reverse order, would it help? :D
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2442. # [20:43] <Gijs> BenWa: ping?
2443. # [20:44] <RyanVM> who triggered the nightlies on m-c tip?
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2449. # [20:46] <@ehsan> treestatus: help
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2451. # [20:46] <@ehsan> treestatus: watch mozilla-inbound
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2459. # [20:50] <bsmith> I'd like to have a makefile target that can build NSPR + NSS + mfbt + security/certverifier (a new thing) + GTest, so, so that I can build/run security/certverifier GTest tests without building the rest of the tree. Similar to how the JS team can build just JS
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2462. # [20:50] <@ted> gtest links all of libxul
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2466. # [20:52] <philor> or tries to
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2469. # [20:53] <@ted> zing
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2475. # [20:55] <jlebar|away> It's floating-point math quiz time. What's the positive decimal number X with the fewest digits such that (int) (((double)X) * 1000) != rount_to_nearest( ((double)X) * 1000 )?
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2477. # [20:55] <dholbert> rnewman, (I think it's just not clear (or wasn't to me, at least) that all of the about:healthreport content is served from the web and hence bugs in its rendering should go in the "web:HR" component)
2478. # [20:55] <bsmith> ted: it should be possible to build gtest without the libxul integration
2479. # [20:55] <bsmith> unless we've forked gtest to add that dependency
2480. # [20:56] <dholbert> rnewman, (I'd assumed that that UI was served locally, since most about:foo pages are hosted locally)
2481. # [20:56] <@ted> when i say "gtest" i mean "BenWa's gtest suite that we actually build and run currently"
2482. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> I just killed another gtest
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2484. # [20:56] <@ted> yeah, please don't add any more gtests to the tree
2485. # [20:57] <bsmith> I see. I guess part of this request is to add a way to run gtests that don't require libxul
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2487. # [20:57] <bsmith> why are people suggesting to not use GTest?
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2489. # [20:57] <@ted> i just don't want you to add another copy to the tree is all
2490. # [20:57] <@ted> we had like 3
2491. # [20:57] <Ms2ger> bsmith, another copy of the gtest framework
2492. # [20:57] <bsmith> oh, i see.
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2494. # [20:57] <@ted> i'd be fine with you figuring out how to get it linked into a CPP_UNIT_TEST
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2496. # [20:58] <@ted> we do that for some webrtc unit tests
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2498. # [20:58] <bsmith> Yes, that's what I want to do, for my NSS-based stuff.
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2501. # [20:59] <abr> bsmith: see media/webrtc/signaling/test/sdp_unittests.cpp for a (relatively) concise example
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2503. # [20:59] <bsmith> So, back to my original question: for building mfbt + NSPR + NSS + security/certverifier, would I be better off putting NSPR + NSS + security/certverifier into a new tier (between base and toolkit)
2504. # [20:59] <@ted> might be we could just always link gtest into a CPP_UNIT_TEST binary and be okay (we'd probably have to fiddle the webrtc stuff)
2505. # [20:59] <Ms2ger> Bah, tiers
2506. # [20:59] <@ted> bsmith: i don't know that you can do that without breaking things
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2509. # [21:00] <@ted> do you expect to be rebuilding NSPR a lot?
2510. # [21:00] <@ted> it doesn't change much
2511. # [21:00] <@ted> is there any reason you can't just mach build security/build security/certverifier ?
2512. # [21:01] <bsmith> ted: I am trying to help security researchers and other contributors create a build of our certificate verification logic that they can use for integrating into their systems.
2513. # [21:01] <@ted> ah
2514. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> Bas is trying to do something similar...
2515. # [21:01] <bsmith> For example, some researchers at UC Berkeley have a tool that records all the SSL traffic at Berkeley and then tries to verify the certificates using various methods
2516. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> But he doesn't need ns*
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2518. # [21:02] <bsmith> and, I want to help security researchers find all the bugs I added to the new certificate verification library, without making them build all of libxul.
2519. # [21:02] <bsmith> and, generally I am jealous of what the JS team does
2520. # [21:02] <Ms2ger> They don't depend on all that crap ;)
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2522. # [21:02] <@ted> hah
2523. # [21:02] <bsmith> baby steps
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2525. # [21:03] <@ted> mm
2526. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> I mean, it almost sounds like modules in C++ are annoying
2527. # [21:03] <@ted> i don't feel like doing this in the context of the mozilla build system is going to be satisfying
2528. # [21:03] <@ted> NSPR and NSS can both be built standalone
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2532. # [21:04] <jcranmer> well, building NSS is like pulling teeth
2533. # [21:04] <jcranmer> but I digress
2534. # [21:04] <@ted> presumably you could make your certverifier thing have a standalone build and either link against system NSPR/NSS or build its own copies?
2535. # [21:04] <bsmith> Yes, but we customize the build of NSS in particular
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2537. # [21:04] <bsmith> Well, I want to build NSPR and NSS in the same way we use it in Gecko.
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2540. # [21:04] <bsmith> which is different than the standalone build configurations for those tools.
2541. # [21:04] <@ted> we support using system NSPR/NSS, that's what linux distros do
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2543. # [21:05] <bsmith> yes, but that is not the interesting configuration for me.
2544. # [21:05] <@ted> okay, i'm just saying, it's not like that's not a thing
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2546. # [21:05] <@ted> so you're saying "i want to build firefox but i don't want to build firefox"
2547. # [21:05] <_AxS_> bsmith: so, build normally and then just leave the objects around so they don't get rebuilt?
2548. # [21:05] <bsmith> OK. I got an appointment now, so I will come back to the discussion later.
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2553. # [21:08] <hub> ttaubert: ok, I found regression point of the session breakage on a fx-team merge. I put that info in the bug
2554. # [21:08] <@ted> RyanVM: so, suspiciously, i pushed this patch to try that doesn't disable the crashreporter during xpcshell shutdown
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2556. # [21:09] <@ted> and it hasn't triggered a winxp hang in 5 runs
2557. # [21:09] <RyanVM> interesting :)
2558. # [21:09] <@ted> actually 7, if you count opt+debug
2559. # [21:09] <@ted> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=952274c52b4c
2560. # [21:09] <RyanVM> I think it's opt-only :)
2561. # [21:09] <RyanVM> so what is that saying about it?
2562. # [21:10] <@ted> it seems pretty likely that it's a shutdown hang
2563. # [21:10] <@ted> and it's possible that the shutdown hang is during crashreporter shutdown
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2575. # [21:21] <RyanVM> ted: gah! :(
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2580. # [21:23] <@ted> RyanVM: so, if that's actually the case, we could just remove the crashreporter shutdown there
2581. # [21:23] <@ted> sgautherie added it a while ago when he was trying to introduce leak tracking to xpcshell tests
2582. # [21:23] <RyanVM> we hit a timeout on your push
2583. # [21:23] <@ted> but that never really caught on
2584. # [21:23] <@ted> oh
2585. # [21:24] <@ted> okay then
2586. # [21:24] <@bsmedberg> bholley: why was the clobber at http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d20fa876e95d necessary?
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2588. # [21:24] <@bsmedberg> it really should not be necessary to clobber when a C++ file is removed!
2589. # [21:24] <@ted> guess that shoots down that theory
2590. # [21:24] <bholley> bsmedberg: ask RyanVM
2591. # [21:25] <bholley> bsmedberg: he had to clobber the first time I landed it
2592. # [21:25] <bholley> bsmedberg: and requested that I add the clobber when I relanded
2593. # [21:25] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM: ^^? Was there a bug filed for that?
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2595. # [21:26] <@ted> RyanVM: in any event i have a fallback plan here
2596. # [21:26] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: i believe so, yes
2597. # [21:26] <RyanVM> bsmedberg: bug 882794
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2612. # [21:33] <dholbert> Gijs, thanks
2613. # [21:33] <Gijs> dholbert: :)
2614. # [21:34] <abr> Apparently what RyanVM was doing was presiding over bugs in a nearly omniscient way that allows him to mark them as fixed moments after they land.
2615. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> abr, sorry to disappoint you, but it's automated
2616. # [21:35] <RyanVM> lolwut?
2617. # [21:35] <RyanVM> actually, abr's referencing one that I was CCed to
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2619. # [21:35] <RyanVM> saw bugmail on
2620. # [21:35] <RyanVM> and set flags accordingly on :P
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2622. # [21:35] <Gijs> RyanVMbot is the new gavinbot?
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2626. # [21:36] <abr> Ooh, I was pretty sure he was human, but I guess it could be an elaborate ruse.
2627. # [21:36] * RyanVM goes into #ateam and hugs face
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2629. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> Surely he's an evil genius
2630. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> With the cat and all
2631. # [21:36] <RyanVM> cat(s)
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2633. # [21:37] <RyanVM> and my other cat is a...*gasp*...black cat!
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2635. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> So you're also a witch?
2636. # [21:37] <RyanVM> spooooky
2637. # [21:37] <RyanVM> hah
2638. # [21:37] <_AxS_> that's not evil. Evil requires a pure white cat, long-hair
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2641. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> Are you as light as a duck?
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2647. # [21:38] <_AxS_> Ms2ger: the test for that is to see if he floats, isn't it?
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2649. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> Well, no, the test is to weigh him, and then we conclude he floats
2650. # [21:41] <_AxS_> ah. so no bag-over-head-and-into-the-river, then..
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2655. # [21:42] <cpeterson> can't you prove that you don't float without dying by just sinking then swimming to the surface?
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2657. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> But how would you sink if you're a witch?
2658. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> Witchcraft?
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2682. # [22:04] <Jesse> what happens if i click "Publish" on bugzilla splinter? does it comment on the bug with some arbitrary amount of context for each hunk i annotated?
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2684. # [22:05] <Waldo> Jesse: yes, three or five lines, can't remember
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2688. # [22:07] <jgilbert> the three lines directly before, iirc
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2690. # [22:07] <jgilbert> sometimes useful to comment on the line *after* the one you care about, because context
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2692. # [22:08] <Waldo> hmm
2693. # [22:08] <Waldo> so if there's a text/plain attachment on bmo
2694. # [22:08] <Waldo> I apparently can't change it to text/plain;charset=UTF-8
2695. # [22:08] <Waldo> but I can on https://landfill.bugzilla.org/bugzilla-tip/show_bug.cgi?id=21345
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2697. # [22:09] <Waldo> also loading http://attach.landfill.bugzilla.org/bugzilla-tip/attachment.cgi?id=3006 in nightly complains about a connection reset, which who knows
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2700. # [22:09] <jlebar> Waldo: you understand floating-point, right?
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2702. # [22:10] <Waldo> jlebar: to an approximation, better for smaller numbers, less so for bigger
2703. # [22:10] * Waldo puns obscurely
2704. # [22:10] <jlebar> Waldo: Why is it that if X is a decimal number with less than N digits of precision, that (int) ((double)X) * 10^N is precise.
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2706. # [22:10] <Waldo> jlebar: could you repeat that more precisely? not sure I understand exactly quite what's being asked
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2708. # [22:11] <kats> smaug: ping
2709. # [22:11] <@smaug> kats: pong
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2711. # [22:12] <kats> smaug: i am trying to figure out how touch events flow through gecko on b2g and getting very confused
2712. # [22:12] <kats> smaug: do you understand that code?
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2714. # [22:12] <jlebar> Waldo: Sure. Let N be 100. Experimentally, I see that for all numbers x of the form a/100 for a natural number a, ((double)X) * 100 == a.
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2716. # [22:12] <jlebar> Waldo: But that is surprising to me
2717. # [22:12] <jlebar> Waldo: because I know that (double)X might be greater or smaller than the actual value of a/100.
2718. # [22:13] <@smaug> kats: haven't looked at it for awhile... but we do bypass the normal event dispatch in chrome process
2719. # [22:13] <jlebar> Waldo: So then when I multiply by 100, I expect to see some results that are greater or smaller than a.
2720. # [22:13] <@smaug> kats: and just send them to TabParent, IIRC
2721. # [22:13] <kats> smaug: is that the TryCapture business in TabParent?
2722. # [22:13] <_AxS_> RyanVM: ping; thanks for handling bug 866418 ...what're the chances you'd be willing to push that into 17esr too? :)
2723. # [22:13] <kats> smaug: do you know why we do that?
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2728. # [22:14] <RyanVM> _AxS_: can't access the bug, so not good w/o a CC :)
2729. # [22:15] <RyanVM> oh, 886418
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2731. # [22:15] <@smaug> kats: yes, and we do it because of performance
2732. # [22:15] <jlebar> Waldo: if it's helpful, see http://codepad.org/IpMZEAQR
2733. # [22:15] <@smaug> kats: check the blame
2734. # [22:15] <_AxS_> oops, sorry yeah i typo'd that
2735. # [22:15] <RyanVM> it'll need approval first, but I can certainly do the uplift once it does
2736. # [22:15] <_AxS_> cool, i'll tag the patch and we'll see how it goes.
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2739. # [22:15] <RyanVM> sounds good, I'll get the aurora uplift next time I'm doing them
2740. # [22:15] <@smaug> kats: bug 788943
2741. # [22:16] <RyanVM> probably not until tomorrow
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2751. # [22:18] <kats> smaug: ok, next question.. can you tell me what coordinate system nsIDOMTouch::mRefPoint is supposed to be in?
2752. # [22:19] <kats> it seems to me like that the coordinate system it's in changes depending on where in the code you look
2753. # [22:19] <jlebar> Waldo: a corollary is that, apparently, for int x,y, we have (int)( ((double)x)/y)*y ) == x. Which again, I did not expect would be true.
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2755. # [22:19] <@smaug> kats: hmm, shouldn't change. It should be the same as nsGUIEvent::refPoint IIRC
2756. # [22:19] <@smaug> without looking the code
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2760. # [22:20] <Waldo> jlebar: yeah, this requires enough mathematical analysis I imagine it's only discoverable in some published paper
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2762. # [22:21] <kats> smaug: APZC definitely converts it from one coordinate system to another in some cases. see for example http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/gfx/layers/ipc/AsyncPanZoomController.cpp#274
2763. # [22:21] <@smaug> oh, APZC is on crack indeed
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2765. # [22:22] <firewolfbot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a081df164311 - Michal Kajda - Bug 888641: NPE in BrowserToolbar's setProgressVisibility(). [r=sriram]
2766. # [22:22] <@smaug> APZC converts it to the child process coordinates or something
2767. # [22:22] <froydnj> jlebar: double has enough bits to represent 32x32 division for any x,y, no?
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2769. # [22:23] <_AxS_> RyanVM|afk: i rescind the 17esr request; shouldn't be needed since it's available in 24
2770. # [22:23] <jlebar> froydnj: So here's what I understand...
2771. # [22:23] <@smaug> this was discussed recently in that one bug...
2772. # [22:23] <kats> smaug: APZC unapplies the compositor transform
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2774. # [22:23] <kats> which sort of makes sense because the APZC is the only code that knows what the compositor transform is
2775. # [22:23] <jlebar> froydnj: It's a power-of-two value, plus an indicator of where you should stick the decimal point, again, as a power of two.
2776. # [22:24] <jlebar> froydnj: So suppose I want to store the fraction 1/5.
2777. # [22:24] <jlebar> froydnj: The denom is not a power of two, so I can't store it exactly.
2778. # [22:24] <@smaug> kats: sure, but APZC just breaks the normal use of refPoint
2779. # [22:24] <jlebar> froydnj: Now, that means that the value in the double is either too big or too small.
2780. # [22:24] <@smaug> it probably shouldn't reused refPoint
2781. # [22:24] <kats> smaug: ok, i agree with you there
2782. # [22:24] <jlebar> froydnj: If it's too big, then when we multiply by 5 and truncate to int, that's totally fine, we get 5 back.
2783. # [22:25] <kats> the WIP i uploaded to bug 888365 tries to fix that
2784. # [22:25] <kats> it splits refPoint into two
2785. # [22:25] <jlebar> froydnj: otoh if it's too small, then when we multiply by 5, we get some value slightly less than 5 (?). So then when we truncate to int, we get 4.
2786. # [22:25] <jlebar> Unless the (?) is wrong.
2787. # [22:25] <jlebar> I guess it might be that the multiplication is a strict inverse of the division, and the errors cancel out...
2788. # [22:25] <kats> smaug: i think the problem i'm having is that i don't see how input events currently deal with arbitrary transforms in the compositor
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2792. # [22:26] <@smaug> I'm not familiar with compositor
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2796. # [22:27] <kats> smaug: ok, i can explain that bit. do you understand how layout flattens frames into layers and hands them off to gfx?
2797. # [22:27] <kats> just at a high level
2798. # [22:28] <@smaug> I understand layout
2799. # [22:28] <@smaug> but I'm not too familiar with layers
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2801. # [22:28] <@smaug> some of the layout stuff maps to layers
2802. # [22:29] <@smaug> like the layout presentation of canvas, right?
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2806. # [22:29] <kats> smaug: ok. so layers are basically what you get after painting the frames. usually multiple frames will get collapsed into a layer
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2808. # [22:29] <@smaug> yup
2809. # [22:29] <kats> but some things will get their own layer, like scrollable subframes
2810. # [22:29] <kats> or things with CSS transforms, in some cases
2811. # [22:29] <@smaug> right
2812. # [22:29] <kats> the compositor is the thing that takes all the layers and draws them to the screen
2813. # [22:30] <kats> the thing is, each layer has a transform associated with it
2814. # [22:30] <kats> so you could have a layer that says "draw me at 2x size"
2815. # [22:30] <froydnj> jlebar: hm, so stepping through your example on x86-64 says that 1/5 is slightly high, but (1/5) * 5 is exact, even before truncation to int
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2817. # [22:30] <@smaug> but layout still knows the placement of stuff, right?
2818. # [22:30] <kats> and the compositor will paint that layer twice as big
2819. # [22:30] <@smaug> since layout does hit testing
2820. # [22:30] <kats> right, so that's the part that confuses me
2821. # [22:30] <kats> layout knows some of the placement
2822. # [22:30] <kats> it knows about CSS transforms, for example
2823. # [22:31] <kats> but it doesn't know about panning/zooming that is happening asynchronously in the compositor
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2825. # [22:31] <froydnj> possible this is just some bit of interesting printing on gdb's part
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2827. # [22:31] <kats> so on fennec for example we take the touch event and untransform it back to the coordinate space that layout knows about, and then we pass it off to layout
2828. # [22:31] <kats> but on b2g there's some weird alternate codepaths including this TryCapture business that i don't understand
2829. # [22:32] <kats> and so it's not clear to me how b2g properly does this untransform
2830. # [22:32] <@smaug> right
2831. # [22:32] <kats> in some cases like on the homescreen app i don't think there is even an APZC so it goes through some other code path
2832. # [22:32] <kats> and that other code path doesn't do the untransform correctly on hi-dpi devices because it doesn't account for the widget scale factor
2833. # [22:33] <kats> i'm not 100% sure if the above statement is correct but i'm trying to make sense of all of this
2834. # [22:33] <@smaug> right. so there are several cases
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2836. # [22:33] <@smaug> event going to system process
2837. # [22:34] <Ms2ger> I think we can assume all this stuff is broken :)
2838. # [22:34] <@smaug> only
2839. # [22:34] <@smaug> or going to child process via system process
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2841. # [22:34] <Ms2ger> And thanks for the srs
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2844. # [22:35] <@smaug> I think b2g browser is kind of special case, since, IIRC its UI is in system process but content in child processes
2845. # [22:35] <@smaug> so coordinates need to be changed to that child process doesn't really see the UI stuff
2846. # [22:35] <kats> smaug: yeah i think that lines up with what i've seen while debugging
2847. # [22:36] <kats> that's done by nsEventStateManager::MapEventCoordinatesForChildProcess
2848. # [22:36] <kats> i think
2849. # [22:37] <@smaug> yeah
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2856. # [22:38] <kats> smaug: ok, so in the case where the event goes to the system process only, there is no APZC, right?
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2858. # [22:39] <froydnj> "Server Too Busy" responses from ftp.mozilla.org...lovely
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2860. # [22:39] <@smaug> kats: as far as I know, yes
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2862. # [22:41] <kats> smaug: ok, it's starting to make some sense in my head.
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2864. # [22:41] <kats> smaug: can you confirm that the mRefPoint in nsGUIEvent is supposed to be in "device pixels" as layout calls them?
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2871. # [22:43] <@smaug> yes
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2873. # [22:43] <@smaug> have to always check those in nsDOMEvent
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2875. # [22:43] <@smaug> nsDOMEvent::GetScreenCoords helped
2876. # [22:44] <@smaug> I wish we can fix all the coordinate handling
2877. # [22:44] <kats> that's what i'm trying to do, sort of
2878. # [22:45] <NeilAway> who knows most about expandlibs_exec.py?
2879. # [22:45] <kats> smaug: ok, thanks. i'll probably have more questions later
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2881. # [22:46] <kats> smaug: btw you might find my blog post on coordinate systems interesting: https://staktrace.com/spout/entry.php?id=800
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2885. # [22:47] <@smaug> I think I read it
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2889. # [22:49] <kats> now i need to find somebody who understands how CSS transforms work
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2894. # [22:51] <gw280> kats: "Sure, you can fit more on the screen, but it's too tiny to be readable or useful."
2895. # [22:51] <NeilAway> gavin: was there a jsm for string bundles or am I imagining it?
2896. # [22:51] <gw280> humbly disagree
2897. # [22:51] <gw280> :P
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2899. # [22:52] <padenot> 1/b 14
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2901. # [22:52] <kats> gw280: hey didn't you say just the other day you came across a screen where you can't make out the individual pixels?
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2903. # [22:52] <gw280> kats: yeah turns out ~470dpi is about my limit
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2906. # [22:54] <nalexander> firebot: uuid
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2913. # [22:57] <jgilbert> ehsan: who should I ask about a question regarding a huge number of (apparently) keep-alive sockets preventing the openning of new sockets in the browser?
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2921. # [23:00] <@gavin> NeilAway: I don't know of any
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2936. # [23:03] <fox2mike> khuey: damn, son.
2937. # [23:03] * jgriffin-afk is now known as jgriffin
2938. # [23:03] <@ehsan> jgilbert: one of the networking folks? Jason Duell or Patrick McManus come to mind
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2941. # [23:03] <fox2mike> you're going to keep me busy all afternoon doing manual labour :p
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2944. # [23:04] <@khuey> fox2mike: :-D
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2946. # [23:04] <@khuey> fox2mike: shannon had a bit of a backlog
2947. # [23:04] <jgilbert> ehsan: any chance I can wring their IRC nicks from your mind? :)
2948. # [23:05] <@ehsan> jgilbert: jduell who's not here, don't remember Patrick's
2949. # [23:05] <@khuey> !seen mcmanus
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2952. # [23:05] <fox2mike> khuey: dayam :D
2953. # [23:05] <nalexander> firebot: uuid
2954. # [23:05] <@khuey> oh no firebot
2955. # [23:05] <@khuey> fox2mike: actually we're still not done :-)
2956. # [23:06] <fox2mike> ffff ;)
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2960. # [23:07] <jgilbert> yeah, firebot has been in and out of sickbay
2961. # [23:07] <@khuey> fox2mike: don't you have people to do this for you now? ;-)
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2964. # [23:07] <fox2mike> khuey: hey man, gotta work the trenches :D
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2970. # [23:08] <jgilbert> ehsan, khuey: thanks
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2973. # [23:11] <froydnj> anybody else having problems pushing to try with "remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:17147'"?
2974. # [23:12] <bholley> froydnj: yes
2975. # [23:12] <dzbarsky> yep
2976. # [23:12] <bholley> who's on buildduty?
2977. # [23:13] <bholley> coop, catlee ^
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2979. # [23:14] <reuben> <jlaz> gozala: they have eyes on it atm
2980. # [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de57cc8ba195 - Joey Armstrong - bug 870407: move CMMSRCS to mozbuild (file batch #3). r=mshal
2981. # [23:15] <reuben> I believe try has that problem on every full moon tuesday or something
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2985. # [23:15] <Waldo> glandium: it's open season on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Date as far as landing stuff goes, so long as I back it out after? just want to be sure I can test flipping that /configure.in condition now for desktop builds without destroying that tree, or something
2986. # [23:16] <Waldo> since you claim setting CC/CXX should be enough for desktop builds to resume, if I fix the test failures that people tell me manifest if I do so
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2989. # [23:18] <gozala> reuben thanks
2990. # [23:18] <gozala> I guess I'll try in a bit
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2995. # [23:20] <reuben> gozala: I was just pasting the line from #it, you got caught in the crossfire :)
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2999. # [23:21] <@bz> "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Trident/7.0; rv 11.0) like Gecko"
3000. # [23:21] <@bz> hilarious... ;)
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3004. # [23:22] <@bz> navigator.appName is now set to b
3005. # [23:22] <@bz> navigator.product is now set to b
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3008. # [23:22] <@bz> er, "Netscape" and "Gecko" respectively.... ;)
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3010. # [23:22] <jld> ...and, 15 minutes later, I *think* I've successfully remembered how to push to try.
3011. # [23:22] <@bz> Also, they've made document.all falsy!
3012. # [23:22] <@bz> Wow
3013. # [23:23] <@ehsan> bz: yay UA
3014. # [23:23] <mounir> yes, that's amazing ;)
3015. # [23:23] <@khuey> welcome to the future
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3017. # [23:23] <jld> But from scrollback it looks like maybe try is broken?
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3019. # [23:23] <@bz> ehsan: boo UA sniffing, but... ;)
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3022. # [23:24] <@ehsan> bz: so... do we have 100% market share now?
3023. # [23:24] <Waldo> bz: http://i.qkme.me/3v1oc5.jpg coming to mozillamemes when jdm updates it :-)
3024. # [23:24] <jld> Isn't that "like Gecko" a case of IE pretending to be Chrome pretending to be Firefox?
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3026. # [23:24] <jld> And wasn't this already discussed in the tubes a while back?
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3028. # [23:25] <Waldo> someone could also do a Mission Accomplished meme too, but I'm too lazy to make two :-)
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3030. # [23:25] <@ehsan> Waldo: well, seems like our work here is done
3031. # [23:25] <@bz> ehsan: heh
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3033. # [23:26] <@ehsan> padenot: ping
3034. # [23:26] <KWierso|Home> jld: but now it's in an official preview, not just something to hide the fact that ie11 exists?
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3042. # [23:27] <@smaug> RyanVM|afk: ping
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3044. # [23:28] * philor gasps
3045. # [23:28] <philor> bustage! on inbound!
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3047. # [23:28] <@bz> jld: and also, the falsy document.all indicates what the basic plan is: to take the "standards" codepath, not the "IE" one
3048. # [23:28] * @smaug doesn't understand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845190#c553
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3050. # [23:29] <joe> well, i can't push to try
3051. # [23:29] <@gavin> philor: is the win8 bustage win8-only? I can't seem to reproduce on win7 with a nightly-ish build
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3053. # [23:29] <KWierso|Home> no, that's cool, comcast, it's not like I need a stable internet connection for my job or anything...
3054. # [23:29] <philor> gavin: yeah, win8-only, that's why early on I really wanted to associate it with prompting, since that might be different on win8
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3056. # [23:30] <KWierso|Home> joe: I think #it is on it?
3057. # [23:30] <philor> bjacob_: that bustage is purely Guillaume and I don't have to back out your cset, right?
3058. # [23:30] <joe> KWierso|Home: oh, hopefully
3059. # [23:31] <KWierso|Home> or at least, that's what gozala said over in #jetpack :)
3060. # [23:31] <@gavin> philor: oddly, my push to try with the patch for bug 888927 doesn't seem to be failing? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=0ea335b1616f
3061. # [23:31] <@gavin> philor: oh, I guess it has the wrong update channel
3062. # [23:32] <philor> gavin: needs PGO too, dunno if you did that since try doesn't feel like loading for me now
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3065. # [23:32] <@gavin> philor: do we do non-pgo nightlies?
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3067. # [23:33] <philor> gavin: nope, other than Mac where we don't do pgo at all, if it's nightly its pgo
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3072. # [23:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4c67eebe3e20 - Phil Ringnalda - Backed out 43e688b70d84 (bug 843667) for compilation failures
3073. # [23:35] <@gavin> philor: do non-nightly builds get built with --enable-update-channel=nightly? I imagine so since the nightly mozconfig includes it
3074. # [23:35] <bjacob_> philor: i think so
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3079. # [23:36] <philor> gavin: no, they don't, the update channel comes from setting the env var, and only nightlies set it, so non-nightlies are on the "default" channel
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3082. # [23:36] <@gavin> oh, good to know
3083. # [23:36] <philor> the mozconfig better not include it, doesn't it include @MOZ_UPDATE_CHANNEL@?
3084. # [23:36] <@smaug> remote: waiting for lock on repository /repo/hg/mozilla/try/ held by 'hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:1000'
3085. # [23:36] <@gavin> philor: yes
3086. # [23:37] <@gavin> smaug: you're the Nth person to mention that, we should get an IT bug on file
3087. # [23:37] <philor> smaug: if you tell #it, something *might* happen
3088. # [23:37] <myk> anyone know about a session restore regression on today's nightly?
3089. # [23:37] <@gavin> looks like fox2mike is looking into it
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3091. # [23:37] <@gavin> myk: tell me more!
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3093. # [23:37] <philor> hub filed one, but that might have been yesterday
3094. # [23:37] * bz is now known as bz_away
3095. # [23:37] <fox2mike> gavin: I am, but I'm in the middle of another outage as well
3096. # [23:37] <fox2mike> f'ing pushlog
3097. # [23:38] <myk> gavin: on today's nightly, a session restore of the Firefox OS Simulator's Dashboard page doesn't seem to execute its JS
3098. # [23:38] * joduinn-mtg is now known as joduinn
3099. # [23:38] <myk> gavin: yesterday's nightly works
3100. # [23:38] * philor wonders where his builds are
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3102. # [23:39] <philor> perhaps that other outage has eaten them, and I should be closing every tree?
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3104. # [23:39] <@gavin> myk: can you file it? cc ttaubert and Yoric
3105. # [23:39] * geekboy|afk is now known as geekboy
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3107. # [23:40] <fox2mike> philor:
3108. # [23:40] <myk> gavin: will do!
3109. # [23:40] <fox2mike> eaten what?
3110. # [23:40] <fox2mike> don't make random assumptions dude :|
3111. # [23:40] <fox2mike> the other stuff isn't even in the same DC
3112. # [23:40] <fox2mike> [root@hgssh1.dmz.scl3 ~]# ps aux | grep 2231
3113. # [23:40] <fox2mike> 2231 998 0.0 0.0 72012 2176 ? S 14:18 0:00 sshd: jedavis@mozilla.com@notty
3114. # [23:40] * geekboy is now known as geekboy|afk
3115. # [23:40] <fox2mike> 2231 1000 77.7 0.9 334536 121372 ? Rs 14:18 13:30 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/hg -R /repo/hg/mozilla/try serve --stdio
3116. # [23:40] <fox2mike> that's who's holding up stuff
3117. # [23:40] <@khuey> jld!!!
3118. # [23:40] <philor> fox2mike: no sign on https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&tree=Mozilla-Inbound of builds on that tip push, from six minutes ago
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3120. # [23:41] <philor> so usually I'd look at try, where there would be lots of recent pushes, but.... poor try
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3125. # [23:42] <daleharvey> ok my auto_clobber builds are definitely being too harsh, git pull ... clobber build, git checkout old_branch && git rebase master .... clobber build
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3127. # [23:42] <philor> has anybody pushed anywhere in the last 40 minutes?
3128. # [23:43] <fox2mike> I know try's probably jammed up since 1418
3129. # [23:43] <fox2mike> but nothing else should be
3130. # [23:43] <fox2mike> I don't know why you suspect everything is.
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3132. # [23:43] * jhammel has observed the same for try
3133. # [23:43] <jhammel> boo :(
3134. # [23:44] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
3135. # [23:44] <fox2mike> let's take a source control system
3136. # [23:44] <philor> because of the severity
3137. # [23:44] <fox2mike> let's then add on something to it
3138. # [23:44] <fox2mike> then abuse it
3139. # [23:44] <philor> ah, there we go
3140. # [23:44] <fox2mike> and expect it to perform flawlessly
3141. # [23:44] <fox2mike> no chance of failing at all in that formula :)
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3146. # [23:46] <fox2mike> I can kill all the processes reading from try
3147. # [23:46] <fox2mike> because that's all that's happening right now
3148. # [23:46] <philor> you forgot the step where we have someone perpetually overloaded write the something we add on, and then have nobody else ever look at it or learn how it works so that they might be able to rewrite it
3149. # [23:46] <mrbkap> What's the easiest way to go from mxr to a revision-specified URL that's suitable for pasting into bugs?
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3151. # [23:47] <bkero> Latest theory is that the cause of try hanging is cached copies of an sqlite database being served over nfs are missing some entries, which is why they're fixed as soon as the wsgi processes are restarted.
3152. # [23:47] <fox2mike> pushlog.
3153. # [23:48] <philor> mrbkap: the hg blame link in the upper-right, after you're already at the line number anchor
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3156. # [23:48] <philor> so http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/feeds/test/xml/rss2/feed_copyright.xml#10 to http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/23ce4eab8fb1/toolkit/components/feeds/test/xml/rss2/feed_copyright.xml#l10
3157. # [23:48] <bkero> fox2mike: last time I killed a hung processes that was committing we had to restore try from a few-hour old backup. :/
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3159. # [23:49] <bkero> I can say that the lock belongs to: lrwxrwxrwx 1 jhammel@mozilla.com scm_level_1 32 Jul 2 14:39 lock -> hgssh1.dmz.scl3.mozilla.com:6888
3160. # [23:49] <fox2mike> bkero: then we don't do it :|
3161. # [23:49] <fox2mike> haha
3162. # [23:49] <fox2mike> jhammel: !!!111 :p
3163. # [23:49] <bkero> fox2mike: then it's sort of a NOOP
3164. # [23:49] <gps> m-c has a file case issue. dom/system/mac/CoreLocationLocationProvider.mm references NSThreadUtils.h but the actual file is nsThreadUtils.h
3165. # [23:49] <gps> ggp: ^
3166. # [23:50] <philor> crap, hope I remember to mention that backout in its bug
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3168. # [23:51] <mrbkap> philor: cool, thanks.
3169. # [23:51] <jhammel> beh....A. how did i lock it? and B. how do i unlock it
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3174. # [23:52] <@smaug> mrbkap: if you want mxr links, scroll down and you see all the relevant changesets
3175. # [23:52] <@smaug> UI is a bit odd
3176. # [23:53] <@smaug> someone should fix it :)
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3178. # [23:53] <mrbkap> smaug++
3179. # [23:53] <mrbkap> smaug: I *thought* there was something like that.
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3181. # [23:54] <@smaug> it is just that if you want the latest changeset, you need to first go to some old changeset and then back to the latest one
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3183. # [23:54] <@smaug> hmm, who was doing some mxr improvements ?
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3186. # [23:55] <ggp> gps: hmm, strange how that hasn't caused trouble before
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3191. # [23:56] <fox2mike> bkero: so no fix here?
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3193. # [23:56] <gps> ggp: apparently b2g requires a case sensitive fs
3194. # [23:56] <bkero> fox2mike: no safe fix, especially if jhammel isn't around.
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3196. # [23:57] <jhammel> i is around
3197. # [23:57] <bkero> fox2mike: well, safe fix would be restart webheads
3198. # [23:57] <mwu> gps: depends on the device you're building for, but hamachi/leo require it
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3201. # [23:57] <fox2mike> bkero: how can jhammel help? kill what he's doing?
3202. # [23:57] <bkero> fox2mike: correct
3203. # [23:57] <fox2mike> jhammel: ^
3204. # [23:58] <bkero> jhammel: do you have a commit headed to try still?
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3206. # [23:58] <glandium> Waldo: i'm not using that branch anymore
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3208. # [23:59] <Waldo> glandium: okay, so good to commit whatever, then? I've never had reason to touch/use a project branch before, excepting tracemonkey back in the day
3209. # [23:59] <glandium> Waldo: but according to https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/DisposableProjectBranches, ehsan is
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3212. # [23:59] <jhammel> bkero: not to my knowledge; i had two hang but no current hg processes
3213. # [23:59] <ggp> gps: ok, I suspect we don't even need the header anyway actually. I'll check and fix it
3214. # [23:59] <@ehsan> Waldo: what's the question?
3215. # Session Close: Wed Jul 03 00:00:00 2013

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