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# [00:00] <jhammel> so....where do i kill this thing, if not my local box?
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# [00:00] <Waldo> ehsan: honestly I'm not sure :-) I had a patch and was told to push it to a project branch to test it, but on second thought I'm not sure why try can't/won't work equally well
# [00:01] <@dbaron> jhammel, bkero, don't these locks go away after 10 minutes or so?
# [00:01] <bkero> fox2mike: could use something like tcpkill to fake a tcp reset and hope the process exits gracefully
# [00:01] <@ehsan> Waldo: hard to answer that without more detail :)
# [00:01] <bkero> So I'm stracing the process, it's pushing out some: brk(0x72b3000) = 0x72b3000
# [00:01] * jhammel does not know
# [00:01] <Waldo> ehsan: yeah, maybe I should just keep using try or something :-)
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# [00:01] <@ehsan> Waldo: ok, good luck :)
# [00:02] * bkero asks mercurial devs
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# [00:03] <bkero> http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2586844
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# [00:07] <fox2mike> bkero: so all the processes I saw were hg --serve
# [00:07] <fox2mike> which is ro
# [00:07] <fox2mike> and therefore safe to kill?
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# [00:08] <Callek> fox2mike: hg --serve is used internally when pushing iirc, its prior to the remote (hg.m.o) getting your local csets, but it is used in the calculation of what of *your* local-end csets to send to remote
# [00:09] <Callek> that is if I remember correctly though
# [00:09] <Callek> so killing it shouldn't bork anything server side, but could cause dev pushes to get aborted
# [00:09] <fox2mike> right
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# [00:09] <bkero> fox2mike: I think they all say that, even if they're pushes
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# [00:10] * jld returns and oh god what
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# [00:10] <jld> So, there were reports that try was broken before I started that push
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# [00:12] * bkero is talking with the author of mercurial about it and simultaneously setting up a test environment that's clean to strace.
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# [00:13] <jld> )-:
# [00:13] <fox2mike> jld: broken how?
# [00:13] <Callek> bkero: don't mention NFS, they'll stop talking
# [00:13] <jld> bkero: Is there a bug?
# [00:14] <jld> bkero: Um, I mean, is this filed in bugzilla?
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# [00:14] <bkero> jld: There have been at least two dozen bugs all marked dupe, can't find the original issue right now since I'm busy debugging this
# [00:14] <jld> bkero: No problem.
# [00:14] <Callek> also "please tell me more when you have answers/thoughts from mercurial people" (I'll be calling it a night shortly
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# [00:15] <bkero> Some of the processes timed out/died
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# [00:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a0a3099e79d5 - Richard Newman - Bug 888665 - Bad stored add-ons cause document generation failure in the presence of good add-ons. r=nalexander
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# [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4dd3f364981f - Nick Alexander - Bug 888250 - Make sure generated report is not null in BrowserHealthReporter. r=rnewman
# [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/14694cb699d2 - Nick Alexander - Bug 887115 - Make Android packager expect omnijar in root directory. r=glandium
# [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/50901fae80b0 - Nick Alexander - Merge m-c to s-c
# [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c193fdeb4932 - Richard Newman - Bug 889413 - FormWrapper._finalize is not a function. r=markh
# [00:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2ae11ca43e44 - Richard Newman - Bug 888676 - NPE accessing mHealthRecorder in GeckoApp. r=nalexander
# [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/df51b4ba96c3 - Richard Newman - Bug 888692 - Missing trackChanges call in forms.js. r=markh
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# [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6d814b7c4af0 - Richard Newman - Bug 885886 - Clarify definitions of FHR init times. r=doc-only
# [00:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/d8d375e82d13 - Richard Newman - Bug 888248 - java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.health.BrowserHealthRecorder (recordSearch). r=nalexander
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# [00:18] <philor> uh oh, looks like we have Windows bustage on inbound predating the everything bustage
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# [00:19] <philor> and KWierso|Home gets to join me in the Doesn't Understand Which Direction Time's Arrow Points Club
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# [00:20] <bkero> fox2mike: the web servers are caught in futex loops. Seems that it's pushlog to me
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# [00:20] <l_r> hello
# [00:20] <jdm> hi
# [00:20] <philor> and somebody gets to back out 0f4163dd261d:df08a8c32fcc "for Window build failures"
# [00:20] <l_r> why isnt to possible to start firefox when ld_preload is set?
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# [00:21] <corey> l_r: I've certainly done that, but what is LD_PRELOAD set to exactly?
# [00:22] <myk> gavin: filed as bug 889618
# [00:22] <l_r> corey, to my shared library
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# [00:22] <l_r> corey, i need to just intercept a system call without doind anything special
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# [00:23] <l_r> but no matter what it is set to, firefox won't start
# [00:23] <philor> bholley: you've got Windows bustage
# [00:23] <bholley> philor: looking
# [00:23] <KWierso|Home> philor: I can get the backout if comcast stops disconnecting me every hour or so
# [00:24] <@gavin> myk: oh, your addon has a content script!
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# [00:24] <fox2mike> bkero: alright, how do we resolve? restart webservers?
# [00:24] <@gavin> myk: dupe of bug 886720, very likely!
# [00:24] <l_r> it's blocked here futex(0x7f5c76a42040, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL
# [00:24] <@gavin> myk: er, sorry, I mean bug 888972
# [00:24] <bkero> fox2mike: correct
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# [00:25] <fox2mike> bkero: go for it /cc hwine
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# [00:25] <fox2mike> hwine: probably have to cycle the webheads
# [00:25] <myk> gavin: aha, thanks!
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# [00:26] <@dbaron> philor, are those the kind of build failures where the glass didn't form correctly?
# [00:26] <jld> Ha. Bug 770811.
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# [00:26] <jld> No wonder my searches for recent bugs didn't find it.
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# [00:27] <bholley> dbaron: suppose, over external linkage, I instantiate class Foo that inherits Bar. Foo's destructor is NS_EXPORT and defined in C++, but Bar's destructor is not. do I need Bar's destructor to be NS_EXPORT as well?
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# [00:27] <l_r> there's clearly a deadlock
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# [00:27] <l_r> in firefox
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# [00:27] <bholley> dbaron: I guess I do, huh
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# [00:28] <bholley> philor: ok, I know what the problem is, with 85% certainty
# [00:28] <philor> dbaron: what I'm heartbroken to have found out recently is that the claim that ancient glass is thicker at the bottom than the top because it has sagged and flowed over hundreds of years is false
# [00:28] <bholley> philor: or rather, I understand the problem, and am pretty sure that NS_EXPORT-ing the destructor will work
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# [00:28] <@khuey> if you make the dtor virtual you won't have this problem :-P
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# [00:29] <philor> bholley: 85% is pretty good by our standards, might as well just push it, CLOSED TREE
# [00:29] <bholley> philor: ok :-)
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# [00:29] <philor> I suspect our actual standard is closer to 15%, judging by the backout percentage ;)
# [00:29] <bholley> khuey: er, sorry. I misspoke. It isn't an inheritance issue. Foo contains a Bar
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# [00:30] <bholley> khuey: my question is basically whether member destruction is taken care of by the caller of the destructor or the destructor itself
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# [00:30] <bkero> jhammel: could you please run 'hg verify' on the repo you attempted to push from?
# [00:30] <bkero> (the author of mercurial is asking for verification)
# [00:30] <bholley> khuey: it appears to work the way I expect on mac/linux, but busts on windows
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# [00:31] <@dbaron> bholley, Bar and Foo are in the same library?
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# [00:31] <bholley> dbaron: yes. And as noted above, it's not inheritance, it's containership
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# [00:32] <nemo> you know.
# [00:32] <nemo> I have a vague memory of bubble sort somehow ending up as the javascript sort in mozilla once
# [00:32] <nemo> am I hallucinating?
# [00:32] <nemo> I'm loathe to dig through the change history :)
# [00:32] <bholley> I guess it's compiler-dependent?
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# [00:33] <bkero> Callek: Maybe some psuhes got into sqlite while others didn't
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# [00:33] <KWierso|Home> philor, bholley: yeah, comcast just bailed while I tried to push the backout, so I guess pushing your fix was just meant to be? :)
# [00:33] <bholley> KWierso|Home: heh
# [00:33] <@dbaron> bholley, though the error looks like one of the destructors referencing another one of them
# [00:33] <bkero> Callek: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2586925
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# [00:33] <bkero> fox2mike, hwine: ^
# [00:33] <bholley> dbaron: explain?
# [00:34] <@dbaron> bholley, well, gcc emits 3 different destructors, deleting, in-charge, and not-in-charge
# [00:34] <bholley> dbaron: we use an nsCxPusher in xpcshell, and nsCxPusher contains an AutoCxPusher
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# [00:34] <fox2mike> bkero: is it pushlog again?
# [00:34] <bholley> dbaron: it works on gcc, just not on MSVC
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# [00:34] <bkero> fox2mike: looks like the last 6 commits didn't get put into pushlog
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# [00:35] <@dbaron> bholley, the error is saying the regular (probably in-charge) destructor is unavailable from the deleting destructor
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# [00:35] <fox2mike> bkero: sigh.
# [00:35] <@dbaron> bholley, it's possible msvc tried to inline the deleting one?
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# [00:35] <bkero> fox2mike: I think I can fake some timestamps and the like
# [00:35] <bholley> dbaron: ok. Is NS_EXPORT-ing ~AutoCxPusher the simplest path to victory?
# [00:35] <@dbaron> bholley, seems likely
# [00:35] <bholley> dbaron: ok. I'll push that
# [00:35] <fox2mike> bkero: or strip pushlog to match what's in the repo?
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# [00:36] <bkero> fox2mike: strip the repo to match what's in pushlog actually
# [00:36] <fox2mike> oh
# [00:36] <fox2mike> so stuff made it to the repo and not pushlog
# [00:36] <fox2mike> MEH
# [00:36] <bkero> correct
# [00:36] <fox2mike> argh. argh. argh.
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# [00:36] <bkero> fox2mike: mpm also suggested we turn our plugins into out-of-process plugins so we can see the running hook and can easily blame it
# [00:37] <fox2mike> ted: fuck pushlog man. as much as I love you, fuck pushlog.
# [00:37] <fox2mike> bkero: which plugin?
# [00:38] <bkero> fox2mike: I meant hooks.
# [00:38] <bkero> The troublemakers
# [00:38] <gps> having post-* version control hooks running in the same process as the client/server is a recipe for disaster. there should be a daemon processing these hooks after the client/server has detached
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# [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea16f566fd50 - Bobby Holley - Bug 888104 - Fix xpcshell linkage error on windows. r=me CLOSED TREE
# [00:38] <fox2mike> bkero: ah, ok.
# [00:38] <fox2mike> so what's our fix at this point?
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# [00:39] <philor> ah, goodie, now hg.m.o's throwing 500s everywhere
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# [00:39] <KWierso|Home> BLUE
# [00:39] <fox2mike> I really don't want to strip try :|
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# [00:39] <philor> when I wanted to close every tree? that would have been the right thing to do, in retrospect
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# [00:39] <bkero> fox2mike: I think I'm badass enough to push some dummy times into pushlog
# [00:39] <bkero> since there's nothing newer in the repo
# [00:39] <fox2mike> bkero: go for it
# [00:39] <gps> maybe this is the straw that finally raises the priority of moving Mercurial off NFS
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# [00:40] <philor> bkero / fox2mike: if it helps you any, every tree is closing now
# [00:40] <bkero> gps: Priority? We need to rewrite pushlog into mysql. Nobody is assigned to do that.
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# [00:40] <gps> bkero: move everything off NFS and pushlog won't be the issue any more
# [00:40] <fox2mike> gps: if you're willing to help us rewrite pushlog or move away from using pushlog (which itself is a hack) then we can move away from NFS today.
# [00:40] <bkero> That's currently blocking the move off of NFS.
# [00:40] <fox2mike> gps: erm no
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# [00:40] <fox2mike> this is what I don't like :)
# [00:40] <fox2mike> you make a comment without knowing how things are setup
# [00:40] <fox2mike> and how pushlog works
# [00:41] <gps> schedule a meeting with ted and me
# [00:41] <fox2mike> pushlog has an sqlite db per repo
# [00:41] <fox2mike> we have 8 webheads
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# [00:41] <gps> there's only 1 master, right?
# [00:41] <fox2mike> how do you plan to keep things in sync by just "moving off nfs"? :)
# [00:42] <fox2mike> by master, if you mean one place to check-in, yes.
# [00:42] <gps> export the sqlite file read-only to the slaves? scp the db file?
# [00:42] <fox2mike> philor: I don't know why try should close everything
# [00:42] <fox2mike> gps: we need near instant replication
# [00:42] <fox2mike> so you'll be scp'ing every second?
# [00:42] <fox2mike> what happens to transactions in-between?
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# [00:42] <philor> fox2mike: the blue at the top of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/ is from 500s cloning other repos
# [00:43] <fox2mike> I'm happy to schedule a meeting
# [00:43] <gps> how does replication work today? extend that
# [00:43] <fox2mike> NFS
# [00:43] <fox2mike> we don't replicate
# [00:43] <philor> dunno if it's ongoing, or happened and then stopped
# [00:43] <fox2mike> this is sqlite
# [00:43] <fox2mike> there is no replication
# [00:43] <gps> fair
# [00:43] <fox2mike> bkero: okay, what's next
# [00:43] <bkero> fox2mike: I'm writing sql
# [00:43] <bkero> That's what's next
# [00:43] <fox2mike> ok
# [00:44] <fox2mike> but why is the rest of hg having a hissy fit?
# [00:44] <gps> i'm talking about moving Mercurial off NFS. local storage. or fibrechannel or something. just NOT NFS
# [00:44] <gps> NFS has crap guarantees about I/O ordering and semantics
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# [00:44] <@khuey> can we move it into the cloud?
# [00:44] <@khuey> I hear that fixes everything
# [00:44] <gps> which is why Mercurial and SQLite both recommend not using it
# [00:44] <bkero> fox2mike: because wsgi processes are all plugged up with requests to serve try presumably
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# [00:44] <@dolske> khuey: let's move it to Linux
# [00:44] <mwu> give it to an intern
# [00:45] <bkero> gps: endgame is move off of nfs, yes
# [00:45] <fox2mike> gps: yes, but I also think you don't have the full picture :) and yes, we want to move it too, but it's not like go order a burger at In and Out :p
# [00:45] <rnewman> mm, burger
# [00:45] <fox2mike> there's a lot of work to be done, then tested before we do that.
# [00:45] <gps> fox2mike: I'm sure I'm lacking the full picture :)
# [00:45] <fox2mike> yes
# [00:45] <fox2mike> and I'm happy to fix that
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# [00:46] <fox2mike> but later :D
# [00:46] <bkero> How can I get hg log to show me full change ids?
# [00:46] <@khuey> are we getting our NFS replacement animal style?
# [00:46] <philor> if you order off the secret menu, you can get a burger with no NFS
# [00:46] <l_r> no solution about my problem?
# [00:46] <@khuey> that's the real question
# [00:46] <fox2mike> lol bkero < nagios-scl3> | Tue 15:41:53 PDT [529] hg-zlb.vips.scl3.mozilla.com:https - /try is OK: HTTP OK: HTTP/1.1 200 Script output follows - 1381 bytes in 70.077 second response time
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# [00:47] <fox2mike> bkero: I think you can't, which is why you have pushlog?
# [00:47] <bkero> fox2mike: I kicked the webheads again
# [00:47] <bkero> fox2mike: No, hg log shows a short changeset id, I'm looking for the full one
# [00:47] <bkero> It's like gpg short fingerprint vs long fingerprint
# [00:47] <bkero> keep try closed while I write this sql plz :/
# [00:48] <gps> fox2mike: I set up the VCS infrastructure at a previous company. I was responsible for moving us from Netapp/NFS to ZFS local storage. the end state was amazing. 5-10x perf win across the board
# [00:48] <jld> In my recent experience, going out for a burger results in being blamed for Hg breakage.
# [00:48] <gps> and you do it right, you don't have to worry about data loss, etc
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# [00:48] <fox2mike> gps: not saying we won't do it :) and I'm sure it's amazing. We need help, since we have this beast on top of hg, called pushlog.
# [00:49] <fox2mike> philor: try is closed right?
# [00:49] <gps> fox2mike: schedule a meeting with ted and me
# [00:49] <Gijs> l_r: feel free to file a bug with clear steps to reproduce (I don't know ld_preload, but it sounds like those should probably include the bits you're preloading)
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# [00:50] <Gijs> l_r: we're a bit busy at the moment with some infra issues :)
# [00:50] <philor> fox2mike: right
# [00:50] <@gavin> bkero: hg log --template "{node}\n" -r
# [00:50] <l_r> Gijs, the bug is 4 years old, well known , filed many times and yet no solution
# [00:50] <Gijs> l_r: link?
# [00:51] <philor> good lord, how many nightlies are we going to trigger today?
# [00:51] <l_r> Gijs, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435683
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# [00:51] <Gijs> l_r: that's marked FIXED. Are you using an older version of Firefox?
# [00:51] <bkero> gavin: yeah, figured that one out, thanks. ;)
# [00:52] <bkero> fox2mike: pushing http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2586991
# [00:52] <l_r> Gijs, version 22
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# [00:52] <jld> My distributed filesystem breakage experience keeps being almost but not quite relevant here.
# [00:52] <Gijs> l_r: sounds like you should file a new bug, then.
# [00:52] <KWierso|Home> philor: never enough?
# [00:53] <jld> It's full of advice like "don't have race conditions in your kernel's NFS client that delete your users' email", and "don't use FAT-16 on Fibre Channel".
# [00:53] <nthomas> bkero: that may have been one mstange push ratehr than 5, but I don't know we have any way of knowing now
# [00:53] <bkero> nthomas: does it really matter besides how it will show up in the web interface?
# [00:53] <nthomas> oh, you made it all one push
# [00:54] <bkero> correct
# [00:54] <bkero> I figured it was
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# [00:54] <nthomas> lines 9 through 13 have 34497 though ?
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# [00:56] <nthomas> and you'd want just one insert into pushlog ?
# [00:56] <bkero> nthomas: would you like to make some sql for me? :)
# [00:56] <nthomas> not really :-)
# [00:57] <nthomas> but send me some hg log output if you want
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# [00:57] <bkero> nthomas: http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2587000
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# [00:58] <nthomas> bkero: could you add the parent rev to the hg log output ?
# [00:59] <bkero> nthomas: how would I go about doing that?
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# [01:00] <@gavin> bkero: use hg glog instead?
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# [01:01] <nthomas> or maybe 'hg log --template "{node} {parents}\n"'
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# [01:01] <@gavin> "The template keyword parents is empty when the only parent is the next node", though
# [01:01] <bkero> http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2587005
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# [01:02] <nthomas> yeah, that's a pain
# [01:02] <@gavin> I guess that hg is old enough that glog probably doesn't exist
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# [01:02] <nthomas> {p1node} is better
# [01:02] <bkero> gavin: http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2587010
# [01:02] <@gavin> oh, it does
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# [01:03] <nthomas> we have 2.5.4 on the server now
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# [01:03] <nthomas> ok, lets assume it was one push
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# [01:05] <bkero> Think so?
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# [01:05] <bkero> I assumed it was 5, loaded the sql, and now try loads
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# [01:06] <nthomas> http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2587016 is my suggestion
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# [01:06] <nthomas> if you meant you already ran the sql with size pushlog inserts, then http://hg.mozilla.org/try/pushloghtml doesn't show that yet
# [01:07] <nthomas> s/size/six/
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# [01:08] <bkero> nthomas: not sure why pushloghtml isn't picking that up
# [01:08] <bkero> Oh, I see
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# [01:09] <nthomas> philor: you can talk to sdonner about the nightlies on m-c
# [01:10] <nthomas> both times
# [01:10] <nthomas> 11am and 3:30 Pacific
# [01:10] <philor> nthomas: yeah, already did, that was why I left the b2g ones going when I killed the rest
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# [01:11] <philor> though I had to have a translator tell me who on earth sdonner would be - that policy of making predictable account names, but only if you know people by their last name rather than the nick you've known them by for years throws me off
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# [01:13] <till> bz: bug 887857 leaves me speechless
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# [01:13] <nthomas> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try is a little funky, mstange can just push again
# [01:14] <bkero> err
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# [01:14] <bkero> please wait for me to sort this
# [01:14] <bkero> it's not just mstange
# [01:14] <nthomas> oh sorry, didn't realize there was more to do
# [01:14] <Mossop> philor: Windows b2g desktop builds are hidden right now right?
# [01:15] <@khuey> yes
# [01:15] <philor> Mossop: on-push, they no longer exist; nightlies are hidden
# [01:15] <Mossop> Right
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# [01:16] <bkero> nthomas: there.
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# [01:16] <bkero> Should be done, shows up in pushlog
# [01:16] <philor> bkero: that can't actually be right, though
# [01:16] <bkero> philor: what can't be right?
# [01:16] <philor> the trychooser hook would have rejected several of those, if they were all separate pushes
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# [01:17] <bkero> philor: http://it.pastebin.mozilla.org/2587039 patches welcome
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# [01:17] <njn> try is closed? oh man
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# [01:18] <philor> too late now, the scheduler has ahold of them :)
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# [01:19] <nthomas> philor: are you already on a killing spree ?
# [01:19] <bkero> Uh, ok
# [01:19] <philor> nthomas: nope, I'm not
# [01:19] <bkero> philor: will this work or does it need to be corrected?
# [01:19] <nthomas> lets just leave it now
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# [01:19] <philor> yeah, I don't think it does anything other than produce more builds, the tip one will still be on top of the others
# [01:20] <philor> I think
# [01:20] <nthomas> I killed all the extra builds
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# [01:20] <bkero> But at least now try web interface loads
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# [01:20] <bkero> and pushlog has reconciled with the repo
# [01:20] <philor> the tipmost one claims to have the right parent, so I think it's all good
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# [01:21] <nthomas> thanks for the fix
# [01:21] <philor> Irish?
# [01:21] <bkero> It better be
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# [01:22] <philor> and it looks like the most recent 500s are 40 minutes old
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# [01:25] <philor> urgh, more like 15 minutes old
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# [01:33] <froydnj> gavin: let me guess, https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/57a536a74828 doesn't turn on telemetry correctly
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# [01:34] <philor> froydnj: it should, it did for me
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# [01:35] <Mossop> philor: Where do I find b2g desktop builds on tbpl? I have noignore=1 but I can't see one for the past few days
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# [01:35] <gps> Mossop: showall=1 ?
# [01:35] <KWierso|Home> those are the same thing, last I knew
# [01:36] <Mossop> Yeah I have that (despite typing noignore=1 dammit!)
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# [01:37] <Mossop> Ohh they're under Win7 as Bg
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# [01:38] <firebot> Check-in:
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# [01:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/4d7f527a72bb - Robert Strong - Take 1 - fix getAppConsoleLogPath call and Take 2 - fix a likely race condition that might fix Bug 626833 - Intermittent test_0200_app_launch_apply_update.js. r=bbondy, a=tests
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# [01:39] <@gavin> froydnj: oh, that should probably be fine
# [01:40] <Waldo> wat http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2587073
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# [01:41] <mixedpuppy> I'm trying to build a debug of m-c on ubuntu 12, and am getting "final link failed: memory exhausted", looks like webrtc is building. 4gb on the vm. anyone have idea's on how I can get past that?
# [01:41] <@smaug> mixedpuppy: are you using gold?
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# [01:41] <gps> mixedpuppy: you need more than 4gb these days, generally
# [01:42] <@smaug> with gold 2-3GB should be enough
# [01:42] <gps> I recommend building with no less than 8, especially if you have ccache
# [01:42] <mixedpuppy> hmm, more than 4gb in a vm on an 8gb laptop makes for :( :( :(
# [01:42] <mixedpuppy> I'll try 6gb
# [01:42] <fox2mike> bkero: all good with try?
# [01:42] <mixedpuppy> smaug: what is gold?
# [01:42] <@smaug> the new ld
# [01:42] <gps> you can use gold, but you'll be going to the filesystem a lot. i hope you have an ssd
# [01:42] <@smaug> :)
# [01:43] <nalexander> mixedpuppy: do you really need --enable-debug? link times go through the roof.
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# [01:43] <@smaug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_%28linker%29
# [01:43] <bkero> fox2mike: Yeah. I wrote some seequil
# [01:43] <bkero> it worked
# [01:43] <mixedpuppy> yes, I am trying to figure out an orange that only happens reliably on linux/debug
# [01:43] <nalexander> :(
# [01:43] <fox2mike> bkero: so things are open now?
# [01:43] <mixedpuppy> and no ssd
# [01:43] <gps> mixedpuppy: anyone who builds m-c should have 16GB in their Mozilla-issued machine. send people who disagree to #build :)
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# [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9eafe94ea972 - John Schoenick - Bug 406541 - Split NS_CheckStrictFileOriginPolicy out of nsPrincipal::CheckMayLoad. r=bs
# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b06bd5858999 - John Schoenick - Bug 406541 - Add check for java file codebase security. r=bsmedberg
# [01:44] <Waldo> fox2mike, bkero: are you debugging try-bustage of the sort like I just stumbled on in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2587073 and if I just broke things more I'm sorry :-(
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# [01:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f09176d269b - John Schoenick - Bug 888834 - Java sees no-explicit-codebase as . not baseURI. r=josh
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# [01:44] <dzbarsky> gps: want to tell desktop to give me 16gb? ;)
# [01:45] <@smaug> mixedpuppy: good luck. I've spent now 1.5 weeks hunting down random linux oranges. No luck reproducing locally
# [01:45] <Mossop> gps: I'm not sure my laptop can take 16GB!
# [01:45] <bkero> fox2mike: Fuck my life. Now there are a lot of things in the repo that aren't in pushlog.
# [01:45] <@smaug> exactly
# [01:45] <gps> I'm only running 8GB on my due-for-replacement MBP. but I do have a nice SSD in there. that helps a lot
# [01:45] <@smaug> I pushed something to try
# [01:46] <@smaug> but tbpl doesn't show it
# [01:46] <fox2mike> hwine: ping
# [01:46] <gps> running <8GB on a magnetic HD is just wasting your time
# [01:46] <nrc> dzbarsky: you have less than 16? Get more! Go hassle desktop now
# [01:46] <tn> smaug, same
# [01:46] <hwine> fox2mike: pong
# [01:46] <fox2mike> hwine: see above, more try and pushlog issues.
# [01:46] <nrc> 32GB and an SSD and windows builds are still intolerabe
# [01:46] <mixedpuppy> smaug: not so random for me, happens every push to try, but debugging this on osx where I cannot repro is killing me
# [01:46] <philor> froydnj: I checked that when I pushed that same thing plus PGO with the tip as of... yesterday? I got the failures
# [01:46] <gps> windows builds are special
# [01:46] <bkero> This time I believe it's because pushlog2.db wasn't g+w'd
# [01:46] <fox2mike> hwine: I'm not sure what the best solution here is.
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# [01:47] <gps> if we forced all developers to use Windows, things would get much better across the board
# [01:47] <@roc> well, apart from no-one being able to work on FirefoxOS anymore
# [01:47] <johns> define "things"
# [01:47] <bkero> fox2mike, hwine: there have been about 60 changesets since I fixed it
# [01:48] <mihneadb> gps: 16GB + SSD on linux here, 91 minutes for m-c clobber build :)
# [01:48] <gps> i'd like to think we'd figure out how to make fxos work on Windows :)
# [01:48] <gps> mihneadb: wat
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# [01:48] <mihneadb> gps: :( I know, right
# [01:48] <mihneadb> it's more like 65 usually
# [01:48] <mihneadb> not sure what happened
# [01:48] <Waldo> mihneadb: suggest removing -j0.2 from your mozconfig
# [01:49] <mihneadb> Waldo: is that default? My mozconfig only has package_js shell and -j4
# [01:49] <hwine> bkero: is the issue that more stuff came in while you fixed? Or that new stuff isn't be added after the fix?
# [01:49] <Waldo> mihneadb: sorry, a joke :-)
# [01:49] <johns> mihneadb: How many cores does your system have?
# [01:49] <markh> Waldo: ++
# [01:49] <gps> mihneadb: 2 physical cores, not 4?
# [01:49] <mihneadb> Waldo: my bad, I read O2
# [01:49] <mihneadb> gps: yes
# [01:49] <bkero> hwine: more stuff came in after I fixed, but pushlog2.db file wasn't g+w, so those new things that went in the repo didn't go into pushlog.
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# [01:49] <mihneadb> johns: 2
# [01:50] <hwine> bkero: is this only for try, or other repos as well?
# [01:50] <gps> that's the problem right there. most build CPU is C++ compilation. need more cores or distributed compiling/caching to fix that
# [01:50] <bkero> hwine: only for try
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# [01:50] <gps> well, there's also precompiled headers. hopefully we'll have that by Q4
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# [01:50] <mihneadb> rstrong: I can't give you a full log of the mozapps/updates xpcshell run because it seems to block. will partial logs (i.e. of the tests that fail) be ok?
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# [01:50] <johns> gps: How hard would it be to get a separate -j flag for compiler vs non-compiler calls
# [01:50] <mihneadb> gps: I tried ccache, didn't help
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# [01:50] <mihneadb> and yes, I'm aware that more cpu = faster builds
# [01:50] <philor> bkero: need me to close it again, so you can climb back on the sql treadmill?
# [01:50] <hwine> bkero: would it work to close-try; re-fix; open-try? If so, how long would that take roughly to fix?
# [01:51] <jld> 8GiB and 8 CPUs works okay for me, building m-c. But I don't have an enormous desktop environment, and I have an SSD.
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# [01:51] <bkero> philor: I'm not making that for 60 changesets. :/ Could we just make those folks push again?
# [01:51] <bkero> I've since fixed the problem
# [01:51] <bkero> I'll make a list, there's only 3-4 people
# [01:51] <rstrong> mihneadb: it might provide some clues so please do
# [01:51] <gps> johns: hard today. solutions in works for tomorrow
# [01:51] <philor> sure, push again works
# [01:51] <mihneadb> rstrong: ah wait it worked now. didn't block, just took a while
# [01:52] <mihneadb> coming right up
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# [01:52] * hwine defers to philor for fix approach <- bkero fox2mike
# [01:52] <@smaug> bkero: need to push again?
# [01:52] <jld> gps: FYI, the FxOS build doesn't even entirely work on OS X out of the box, if your target device builds its kernel.
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# [01:52] <bkero> David Zbarsky, Olli Pettay, Jeff Walden, Timothy Nikkel, Nicolas B. Pierron, Nicholas Nethercote
# [01:52] <dzbarsky> bkero: is it ok to push now?
# [01:53] <fox2mike> proabably not :)
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# [01:53] <fox2mike> but I'll defer to bkero
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# [01:53] <fox2mike> since he's running point
# [01:53] <bkero> dzbarsky: Yes, please push to try again if you'd like your try stuff run
# [01:53] <mihneadb> has anybody seen benefits from using ccache for m-c?
# [01:53] * jld tried try. It failed quickly and laconically.
# [01:53] <bkero> Your things got added to try, but were not put in the pushlog
# [01:53] <nbp> bkero: ?!
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# [01:54] <bkero> nbp: pushlog2.db was not chmod g+w, so your push went into try but not pushlog. I've since fixed this, if you'd like your previously submitted try jobs to run you'll need to submit them again.
# [01:54] <Waldo> mihneadb: ccache is teh awesome, but you probably want to ccache --max-size=20G or something
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# [01:54] <nbp> bkero: ok.
# [01:54] <nbp> bkero: Can I do it now?
# [01:55] <bkero> yes
# [01:55] <mihneadb> Waldo: I tried with 12G
# [01:55] <mihneadb> set up my path
# [01:55] <mihneadb> and set ac add option with ccache
# [01:55] <mihneadb> anything else I need to do?
# [01:55] <Waldo> mihneadb: usually I'll put |export CC=... export CXX=...| in my mozconfig to use ccache, actually
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# [01:55] * mihneadb found that on the mdn
# [01:56] * Waldo shrugs
# [01:56] <jld> Argh. I was based on a burning revision of m-i?
# [01:56] <@gavin> there is a configure ccache option that tries to be smart
# [01:56] <@gavin> I think it was renamed from with-ccache to enable-ccache, though
# [01:56] <Waldo> I also use ccache with a bunch of different compilers, some I've compiled myself, so I dunno about the defaults too much
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# [01:56] <@gavin> oh, looks like it as removed
# [01:56] <mihneadb> Waldo: ok, ty
# [01:57] <rstrong> mihneadb: can the patch from bug 887054 be pushed to try along with my changes to see if my changes work or are there other changes needed?
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# [01:57] <mihneadb> rstrong: there are multiple patches for other folders
# [01:57] <mihneadb> main tracking bug for them is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=887064
# [01:58] <rstrong> mihneadb: let me rephrase, what would I need to push to try to see if my changes for app update work?
# [01:58] <mihneadb> rstrong: I want to get the tests pass locally first and then I'll do try runs
# [01:58] <@smaug> bkero: fox2mike: thanks for fixing try
# [01:58] * @smaug says good night.
# [01:58] <mihneadb> rstrong: ah. my patch in bug 887054 and your patch. But many other xpcshell tests will fail
# [01:59] <mihneadb> because of the patch in 887054
# [01:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78fbb80cf76c - Trevor Saunders - bug 887854 - remove most useage of pratom.h r=mounir, mcmanus, jrmuizel
# [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c14a1283292e - Trevor Saunders - bug 877937 - copy the work around to allow clang to build as C++11 to js/src/build/unix/headers/ r=glandium
# [01:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f667fc46908 - Trevor Saunders - bug 887854 - remove a bunch of useless includes of pratom.h in intl/ r=ms2ger
# [01:59] <rstrong> mihneadb: thanks and I'm fine with that as long as I can check success vs. failure for the app update tests in the log
# [01:59] <@gavin> oh, no it wasn't: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/autoconf/ccache.m4
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# [02:00] <mihneadb> rstrong: ok, sure.
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# [02:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04c800fb45a6 - Allison Naaktgeboren - Bug 888079 - control debugger start behind a pref, control debugger port with pref.r=jimm
# [02:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa1e79fea97e - Jim Mathies - Bug 882042 - Disable horizontal scrollbars in menu items. r=rsilveira
# [02:04] <mihneadb> rstrong: thanks for your help on this!
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# [02:05] <rstrong> mihneadb: np... I've been working on these tests recently and my head is pretty well wrapped around them.
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# [02:06] <mihneadb> rstrong: that's how I found you, hg revisions :)
# [02:06] <mihneadb> ok, posted the log
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# [02:07] <rnewman> gps: nothing to do with me!
# [02:08] <rnewman> but very exciting nonetheless :)
# [02:08] <mixedpuppy> smaug: thanks, gold got me past the problem.
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# [02:14] <mihneadb> mobile java in js, for ffos https://github.com/szatkus/js2me
# [02:14] <mihneadb> wat
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# [02:20] <fox2mike> khuey: all good? I think I hit all your account requests.
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# [02:21] <@khuey> fox2mike: yep, thanks!
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# [02:25] <njn> did try server swallow my push?
# [02:25] <njn> I didn't get an email about it, and it's not showing up on TBPL, yet if I push again it says there are no changes to push
# [02:25] <philor> yes, push again, it's sorry
# [02:25] <njn> philor: ok, thanks
# [02:25] <philor> should be able to just qref -e and persuade it there's changes that way
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# [02:27] <glandium> njn: no need for that. The simple fact that the changeset date is different is enough
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# [02:29] <philor> so very very awesome that a change to mozBeta-thunderbird-branch-patcher2.cfg causes us to retry dozens of builds across multiple trees
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# [02:29] <fox2mike> khuey: great, manual labour for the week - check.
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# [02:43] <philor> bholley: you remember how much you enjoyed that last metro-chrome bustage? here's the next one!
# [02:43] <bholley> philor: whaa
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# [02:45] <philor> bholley: well, the fact that I can't say whether or not it is is definitely yours!
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# [02:46] <philor> you, gfx half backed out, a stray b2g push that should have gone to birch, netwerk, build config
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# [02:47] <jld> ...oh. The build isn't showing up there because it hasn't started yet, *not* because I screwed up the try spec a different way. So I can stop screaming, and hope the neighbors didn't notice.
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# [02:48] <jld> Speaking of birch and cedar and so on, is there a guide to our arboretum?
# [02:48] <philor> of course not!
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# [02:49] <bholley> philor: huh. Should be a pretty clean refactor. But anyway, back out if needed, I guess
# [02:49] <KWierso|Home> philor: it happened earlier too, yeah? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=c66bbfc2df5b
# [02:49] <philor> jld: the guide to cedar is "it's a project branch shared by releng and the ateam, for greening up new test suites and new ways of running existing ones, they merge from m-c to it when they feel the need to see builds"
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# [02:50] <philor> awesome, I only had the tipmost 10 open
# [02:50] <philor> bholley: have a drink on me
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# [02:50] <KWierso|Home> philor: and there's a metro push between that orange and the last green
# [02:51] <jld> philor: Ah.
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# [02:53] <jld> philor: That actually makes me more sad about the state of B2G/Fennec debug builds.
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# [02:58] <philor> jld: after a few years, you get used to the bitterness
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# [03:01] <philor> in 2011, I was all sorts of shocked by my bitterness, now it's just another recurring thing to have to explain to people why they can't have what they want, because neither they nor anyone else wants to do what's needed to make it possible
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# [03:05] <tbsaunde> philor: you only started being bitter in 2011?
# [03:05] <KWierso|Home> scales of bitteerness
# [03:06] <KWierso|Home> bitterness, even
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# [03:06] <@khuey> mak++
# [03:06] <KWierso|Home> ^
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# [03:09] <jld> philor: So are we talking not enough hardware to run semi-regular tests, or that developers wouldn't care that stuff is on fire with assertion failures even if they knew about it, or...?
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# [03:13] <gw280> Waldo: can we get an official r+ on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882561 ?
# [03:13] <JonathanS> how can anyone read this? https://bug856375.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=770546
# [03:14] <philor> jld: stdout gets logged the normal way, stderr only gets into logcat, and particularly on Android, we only tail logcat so if you have an assertion failure, not only is the assertion not in the log where the failure is logged, it doesn't even necessarily show up in logcat
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# [03:14] <Waldo> gw280: for putting it in gfx/2d, I take it?
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# [03:15] <philor> so someone needs to rewrite the harnesses so that we at least get all of both, and far better intermingle them like they would be in any sane platform, but without just killing the poor memory-impaired devices doing it
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# [03:18] <gw280> Waldo: yes
# [03:18] <philor> jld: from before the current bustage, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24672793&tree=Cedar&full=1#error0 is a pretty good example log for the problem: there were 7 assertion failures in test_bounds.html, you may not know what they were, only the number of them
# [03:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ccb0796f0869 - Dan Gohman - Bug 876064 - Implement constant pools for double constants on x64. r=sstangl
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# [03:20] <Waldo> gw280: done
# [03:20] <gw280> Waldo: thanks
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# [03:23] <KWierso|Home> philor: is bug 889694 backout-worthy, or should it just wait for a fix?
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# [03:26] <KWierso|Home> yeah, guess not
# [03:26] <philor> "Intermittently, when Windows actually compiles and when we don't skip several revs before building it, ___" :)
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# [03:31] <nthomas> yeah, on lots of platforms so I'm thinking some kind of unit test
# [03:31] <nthomas> no hits on mxr though
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# [03:39] <philor> nthomas: maybe one of the various other mit.edu hosts we reference either redirecting or bad-reverse dns-ing to it?
# [03:40] <philor> I'd sort of hope we don't go clicking and fetching in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/netwerk/protocol/ftp/test/frametest/menu.html, but... I wouldn't be surprised if we do
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# [04:15] <vlad> anyone know if using gold's incremental link mode speeds up linking libxul on linux?
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# [04:26] <mihneadb> hi
# [04:26] <mihneadb> need some mercurial-fu help
# [04:26] <mihneadb> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2587362
# [04:27] <mihneadb> the .rej file is empty
# [04:27] <mihneadb> does this mean everything applied fine?
# [04:28] <vlad> (your prompt is atrocious)
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# [04:28] <vlad> but no, did you look at the netwerk2 patch file?
# [04:28] <vlad> in .hg/patches/netwerk2
# [04:28] <vlad> compare what's in the patch file to the test_cacheflags.js
# [04:28] <vlad> having an empty .rej file is weird
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# [04:29] <mihneadb> ok, ty
# [04:29] <vlad> haha, passing -S to the libxul link causes it to finish linking in like.. 15 seconds
# [04:29] <vlad> as opposed to 10 minutes
# [04:30] <philor> oh, handy, total of nothing mergeable from m-i, that'll save some time
# [04:30] <rstrong> mihneadb: I would be tempted to remove the test_cacheflags.js changes from the patch, save it to a file, hg qpush it, and then hg import --no-commit -f <path to file>
# [04:30] * @roc wonders what to do about webaudio and races
# [04:30] <vlad> roc: yeah, that thread kind of went afield
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# [04:30] <mihneadb> rstrong: ok, thanks
# [04:30] * @roc wishes he could talk to Ehsan
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# [04:30] <vlad> roc: what's weird is regardless of what we decide for asm stuff, having web audio require that functionality seems wrong
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# [04:30] <@roc> I agree
# [04:30] <vlad> but I don't really know how to argue for both those things at once
# [04:31] <@roc> I'm mainly wondering how to proceed in the public-audio group
# [04:31] <vlad> though one (web audio thing) is an accidental by-product of an implementation
# [04:31] <rstrong> mihneadb: I think it might be possible to get an empty reject file if the test_cacheflags.js file doesn't exist. Could it be in another patch in your queue?
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# [04:31] <vlad> the other is being thought out in minute detail
# [04:31] <mihneadb> rstrong: nope
# [04:31] <mihneadb> rstrong: maybe someone removed it
# [04:31] <rstrong> that is weird
# [04:31] <mihneadb> let me check on hg.m.o
# [04:32] <@roc> I think there's a problem where when someone doesn't like the way a discussion is going, and has no particular reason to need it resolved, they just drop out.
# [04:32] <@roc> which I am guilty of from time to time, too
# [04:32] <vlad> yeah
# [04:32] <vlad> we're generally not good at that as a project, when it comes to web standards
# [04:32] <mihneadb> rstrong: nope, it's still there
# [04:32] <mihneadb> anyway
# [04:32] <mihneadb> I'll figure it out
# [04:33] <glandium> vlad: that's not surprising (about -S)
# [04:33] <glandium> vlad: but then, you can't debug
# [04:33] <vlad> glandium: yeah
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# [04:33] <vlad> glandium: that's ok for now, most of my work right now is going to be adding some new code
# [04:33] <vlad> when I need to debug, I can pay the 10 min price
# [04:34] <glandium> vlad: eventually, debug symbol fission will make things better
# [04:34] <vlad> fission?
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# [04:34] <vlad> still, I'm about to have a full -g -O2 build on a chromebook :p
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# [04:34] <glandium> vlad: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DebugFission
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# [04:34] <vlad> ah neat, so msvc style
# [04:35] <glandium> or gcc on mac
# [04:35] <vlad> right.. yay apple.
# [04:35] <glandium> i've been meaning to add support for it in the build system
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# [04:36] <vlad> I've never tried incremental links on linux
# [04:37] <glandium> last time i looked at incremental linking, it was so poorly done that it was useless
# [04:37] <glandium> but that was a while ago
# [04:37] <vlad> heh
# [04:38] <vlad> ha wow, my build actually works
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# [05:21] <swong15> Hi I'm a little stuck on a bug im working on. Could someone help me please
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# [05:28] <KWierso|Home> swong15: depends on the bug :)
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# [05:30] <KWierso|Home> swong15: (what's the bug?)
# [05:31] <swong15> ahaha. So I'm working on this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827160. I'm trying to implement a new boolean attribute as per the webIDL file but the setter doesn't seem to take more than one argument in the binding
# [05:32] <swong15> As I understand it. I have to go into nsGkAtomList.h and add a new attribute. Modify HTMLObjectElement.h and add a new getter and setter for TypeMustMatch. And then uncomment TypeMustMatch from the webIDL file.
# [05:32] <swong15> Is there something that I'm doing wrong?
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# [05:36] <KWierso|Home> johns: you around to help swong15?
# [05:37] <@roc> swong15: why do you expect the setter to take more than one attribute in the binding?
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# [05:41] <swong15> I went through the directory and looked through a few boolean setters and all the setters I've seen seem to take in a value and an errorResult argument. I was expecting the attribute I'm trying to add to be the same
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# [05:41] <swong15> I'm trying to use SetHTMLBoolAttr() to set the attribute value
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# [05:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e10afc0c67e0 - David Anderson - Add urgent message semantics to IPC and IPDL (bug 867013, r=cjones).
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# [05:44] <jld> philor: Oh. I didn't realize that that applied to try builds like that.
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# [05:47] <@roc> swong15: attribute setters marked with [Throws] take an ErrorResult& parameter. Those without [Throws] do not.
# [05:48] <@roc> so, decide whether you want to be able to throw an error or not. If you do, add [Throws] to the WebIDL, othrewise remove ErrorResult& from your binding.
# [05:49] <swong15> Ahhh. I see.
# [05:49] <swong15> Thank you
# [05:50] <swong15> Would I just call setHTMLBooleanAttr() with two arguments then?
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# [05:53] <philor> sure, Frontier, I'd enjoy rebooting my router
# [05:54] <swong15> Or rather how would I go about calling a function with equivalent functionality to setHTMLBooleanAttr() that doesn't require an ErrorResult& parameter
# [05:54] <philor> jld: if you really want to see what it'll do before landing it, I'd just ask jgriffin if it's okay to push it to Cedar, wait for builds to get going, and then back it out again
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# [05:54] <philor> no reason why that would mess anything up
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# [06:10] <@roc> swong15: I don't understand the question
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# [06:12] <swong15> roc: I was trying to find an equivalent function to setHTMLBooleanAttr() that doesn't take in an ErrorResult& parameter. I'm thinking of using SetBoolAttr().
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# [06:19] <@roc> what function is that?
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# [06:23] <swong15> I believe it sets the attribute value to the passed in argument. I found it in nsGenericHTMLElement.h. The description was /** * Helper method for NS_IMPL_BOOL_ATTR macro. * Sets value of boolean attribute by removing attribute or setting it to * the empty string. Only works for attributes in null namespace. * * @param aAttr name of attrib
# [06:24] <swong15> SetBoolAttr(nsIAtom* aAttr, PRBool aValue)
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# [06:33] <@roc> I mean, what's setHTMLBooleanAttr?
# [06:34] <swong15> Oh my bad. It's SetHTMLBoolAttr()
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# [06:35] <@roc> ah
# [06:35] <@roc> well, just add [Throws] to your WebIDL and move on
# [06:36] <swong15> Okay. Cool. Thanks so much for the help
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# [06:36] <@bz> swong15: ping
# [06:36] <swong15> Hi.
# [06:37] <@bz> swong15: You had webidl questions?
# [06:37] <swong15> They are resolved for now. I think.
# [06:37] <@bz> OK, great
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# [06:38] <@bz> yeah, attr sets can throw
# [06:38] <@bz> So [Throws]
# [06:39] <sfink> why are there so many videos, and so many playback paths, with desynchronized A/V? Are people totally insensitive to that or something?
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# [06:42] <njn> sfink: REPACK
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# [06:44] <sfink> njn: ?
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# [06:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46160d052cac - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 872806 - (Part 2) Remove unnecessary distribution path shared pref. r=mfinkle
# [06:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dd8cea3d849c - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 872806 - (Part 1) /system distribution support for add-ons. r=mfinkle
# [06:45] <njn> sfink: you sometimes see torrents with problems (usually a/v sync problems) get put up again with REPACK in their title
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# [06:45] <sfink> oh, I see
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# [06:46] <sfink> one that was really bothering me was a commercial music video DVD
# [06:46] <sfink> seems like they ought to care
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# [07:09] <darkowlzz> padenot, ping!
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# [07:15] <karl> /home/karl/moz/dev/accessible/src/base/NotificationController.cpp:14:31: fatal error: mozilla/Telemetry.h: No such file or directory
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# [07:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbcfcb1b68e4 - Bobby Holley - Bug 882905 - Remove hasVersion from js::CompartmentOptions. r=luke
# [07:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3eb3f8a9227b - Bobby Holley - Bug 888682 - Inline traverse/unlink for mGlobal and simplify CC goop for nsInProcessTabChildGlobal.cpp. r=smaug
# [07:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f8a786128a1 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 889221 - Record dominant-baseline values correctly when traversing SVG text frames. r=roc
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# [07:43] <jcranmer> true WTF moment:
# [07:43] <jcranmer> we have a copy constructor that is cloning refcounts
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# [07:52] <nrc> anyone know why I am getting missing PROFILE_FOLDER errors on Try on Mac/Fedora?
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# [07:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/717cdae289f8 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 889678 - Fix mozpack purge manifest tests and bug in version detection code; r=glandium
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# [08:02] <dzbarsky> jcranmer: where?
# [08:03] <jcranmer> dzbarsky: see my latest comment on bug 884061
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# [08:30] <markh> huh - found a .jsm with a few occurrences of .startsWith(...) - obviously a relatively unused module...
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# [08:37] <glandium> markh: why?
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# [08:38] <markh> glandium: didn't a startsWith() method only exist for a very brief time?
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# [08:38] <markh> hrm
# [08:38] <glandium> markh: i don't think so
# [08:38] <markh> yeah, right, I'm dreaming...
# [08:39] <KWierso|Home> margaret: ping?
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# [08:39] <glandium> it's even part of the ES6 proposal
# [08:39] <markh> I saw "TypeError: path.startsWith is not a function" and jumped to a few conclusions :)
# [08:39] <markh> yeah, I thought I recalled it existed then got reverted
# [08:40] <glandium> markh: maybe on the first landing?
# [08:40] <markh> but my problem is almost certainly just a wrong type :)
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# [09:33] <darkowlzz> padenot, ping!
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# [09:34] <padenot> darkowlzz: pong
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# [09:35] <darkowlzz> padenot, hi, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858025#c10
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# [09:37] <padenot> darkowlzz: see the patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886173
# [09:38] <padenot> darkowlzz: can you apply this patch an see if you can repro?
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# [09:39] <darkowlzz> padenot, sure, lemme try
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# [10:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9939c3648650 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 886287 - OdinMonkey: Push the descriptor/argc filling the full pointer size, r=luke
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# [10:40] <darkowlzz> padenot, ping!
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# [10:41] <padenot> darkowlzz: pong
# [10:42] <darkowlzz> padenot, that patch didn't seem to work
# [10:42] <darkowlzz> was it working when you tried?
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# [10:42] <padenot> darkowlzz: it works when you are not using the audio controls
# [10:43] <smontagu> tbpl has warnings as errors? brutal
# [10:43] <padenot> darkowlzz: also, see the comment by jaws :-)
# [10:43] <darkowlzz> I tried using the buttons given in the test page
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# [10:43] <padenot> I'm pretty sure my patch works
# [10:43] <darkowlzz> padenot, yes, I would try that next, but I wonder why your patch isn't working here
# [10:44] <darkowlzz> padenot, does that require full rebuild? I build only content/html/ and toolkit/
# [10:45] <padenot> that should do, yes
# [10:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3ee9aeec378 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 886255 - Let activatation of inactive JitActivation behave more closely to the construction of active JitAction, r=jandem
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# [10:48] <padenot> darkowlzz: yeah, just tested, my patch works just fine
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# [10:51] <darkowlzz> padenot, I guess I messed up a lot of things. Have to rebuild again
# [10:51] <darkowlzz> padenot, thanks :)
# [10:51] <padenot> darkowlzz: sure, let me know if you have any question :-)
# [10:52] <darkowlzz> padenot, sure :)
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# [12:23] <Gijs> mounir: which tree isn't open?
# [12:23] <Gijs> m-c looks open to me.
# [12:23] <mounir> m-i
# [12:26] <mounir> oh crap, infra is trying to make us productive :(
# [12:28] <AutomatedTester> mounir: the sheriffs were waiting for an android build to go green iirc
# [12:28] <AutomatedTester> Tomcat: ^ ?
# [12:28] <mounir> AutomatedTester: there is one but the tests are purple
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# [12:29] <AutomatedTester> I only saw a conversation in #ateam earlier
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# [12:54] <Ms2ger> AutomatedTester, but at least you got karma
# [12:54] <AutomatedTester> :)
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# [12:54] <AutomatedTester> it looks like we added dependencies for building
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# [12:55] <AutomatedTester> and I didnt have those
# [12:55] <Ms2ger> gstreamer?
# [12:55] <AutomatedTester> yea
# [12:55] <AutomatedTester> I must have missed the memo
# [12:55] <Ms2ger> Disabling it is fine too
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# [12:55] <AutomatedTester> what was happening was Firefox wouldnt launch
# [12:55] <AutomatedTester> it looked like it did but there was no process and no error
# [12:55] <Ms2ger> We want to play video we're not legally allowed to
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# [12:56] <AutomatedTester> legal is a state of mind...
# [12:56] <AutomatedTester> :)
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# [12:56] <Ms2ger> So we just make gstreamer do it, which means it's only the devs and not MoCo that are breaking the law
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# [12:57] <AutomatedTester> *phew* better me than... wait what
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# [13:07] <gcp> the regressions from bug 653881 are pretty terrible
# [13:07] <Ms2ger> Not entirely surprising
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# [13:08] <mcsmurf> firebot: bug 65881
# [13:08] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65881 nor, --, Future, slogan, RESO FIXED, mozilla appears to be using two colormaps
# [13:08] <mcsmurf> firebot: bug 658881
# [13:08] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658881 nor, --, ---, masayuki, ASSI, Voiced sound marks of Half-width Kana should be selectable/editable individually
# [13:09] <mcsmurf> firebot: bug 653881
# [13:09] <mcsmurf> (*sigh*)
# [13:09] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653881 nor, --, mozilla25, mrbkap, RESO FIXED, Fix up our XBL1 shadow tree implementation so that we can reuse it for XBL2
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# [13:09] <Gijs> gcp: which in particular are terrible?
# [13:09] <gcp> all of them?
# [13:10] <mcsmurf> Ms2ger: :(
# [13:10] <mcsmurf> will do better next time :P
# [13:10] <gcp> broken sync, broken bookmarks, shitload of broken addons
# [13:10] <Gijs> well, which are regressions? Looking at the bug, there's not that many things filed. I only see one broken add-on filed.
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# [13:11] <gcp> 888749 888787 889098 888967
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# [13:12] <Gijs> isn't the bookmarks thing just for scrollable menus? And the sync thing only for its options?
# [13:13] <Gijs> Doesn't seem that bad to me. It's Really Hard to refactor something like XBL.
# [13:13] <Gijs> I wouldn't have been surprised if more stuff got broken by that change.
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# [13:13] <gcp> I guess it was intentionally landed now then.
# [13:14] <gcp> (Early in the cycle)
# [13:15] <Tomcat> mounir: reopened m-i now
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# [13:15] <Tomcat> seems android has catched up from the outage now
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# [13:15] <Gijs> gcp: to my knowledge, yes.
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# [13:18] <Gijs> uhhh, does that just overlay SVG into the toolbarbutton? :|
# [13:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/370e660265f3 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 799122 - Eagerly allocate dense elements for small arrays. r=luke
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# [13:19] <KevinSjoberg> Does anyone know the status on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740148? This is still an issue in OS X 10.8.4.
# [13:19] <KevinSjoberg> browser.fullscreen.autohide is still set to true per default in Firefox Aurora 24.0a2 but it doesn't do anything.
# [13:20] <Gijs> https://mxr.mozilla.org/addons/source/15023/chrome/content/firefoxOverlay.xul#102 , https://mxr.mozilla.org/addons/source/15023/chrome/content/firefoxOverlay-svg.xul#41
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# [13:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f3153ceaba0 - Mounir Lamouri - Bug 875747 - Add interface for nsIColorPicker widget. f=arnaud sr=roc
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# [13:27] <Gijs> gcp: added info to the add-ons bug, plus a needinfo on mrbkap... hopefully that'll get things moving.
# [13:28] <Gijs> I don't have an up-to-date m-c tip build handy, but I will make one and then test my suggestion real quick.
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# [13:29] <mounir> Tomcat: thanks
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# [13:42] <paul_> hello. I was already here yesterday and someone helped me via private messages. but I can't remember your name. it was about createDocument()
# [13:44] <paul_> gavin: ping
# [13:44] <Ms2ger> Maybe smaug?
# [13:44] <paul_> yeah
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# [13:46] <paul_> Ms2ger: do you remember my problem? somebody asked me if maybe there is a WYSIWYG editor on site I try to create document from and now I know this IS the origin of my weird exception
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# [13:51] <Gijs> sherriff, (Tomcat?), why are there no Linux builds on my push: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=UX&rev=330694246224 ?
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# [13:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bfe035b2573 - Asaf Romano - Bug 889089 - crash in mozilla::places::History::FetchPageInfo. r=mak
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# [14:00] <Tomcat> Gijs: checking
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# [14:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cff8971a6519 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 882523 - Support OMTC on Mac in non-accelerated mode using OpenGL. r=nrc, r=mattwoodrow
# [14:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea977b0417d2 - Markus Stange - Bug 888289 - Reland the part from bug 822115 that was accidentally backed out in the layers refactoring. r=mattwoodrow
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# [14:13] <Tomcat> Gijs: so i see linux builds now
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# [14:15] <@smaug> how can I enable the "waiting for 300 seconds ... attach to gdb" thing in browser-chrome tests?
# [14:15] <@smaug> ted: you might know
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# [14:20] <@ted> the breakpad handler probably interferes, so you'd need to comment out the bit in the harness that sets MOZ_CRASHREPORTER=1
# [14:20] <@ted> also apparently XRE_NO_WINDOWS_CRASH_DIALOG
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# [14:21] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/automation.py.in#739
# [14:21] <@ted> so probably both of those
# [14:21] * @ted bbl
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# [14:23] <Gijs> Tomcat: I do not?
# [14:23] <Gijs> Tomcat: in fact, the only one I saw earlier (still building) has now dropped off too.
# [14:24] <Tomcat> hmm
# [14:25] <Gijs> to be clear, I'm looking at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=UX&rev=330694246224
# [14:26] <Gijs> I noticed some Linux things on the self serve page
# [14:26] <Gijs> but no idea why they're not showing up on TBPL.
# [14:26] <Tomcat> hm right seems they were created for https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=UX&rev=0b667de52fa4
# [14:27] <Tomcat> RyanVM: ^ do you have an idea
# [14:27] <Gijs> Oh phooey. I kind of wanted separate talos numbers for those revs. :\
# [14:27] <Gijs> (which is why I pushed them separately, with a few minutes inbetween)
# [14:27] <Gijs> Should I have waited longer? But also, then why is stuff showing up for OS X / Windows, but not for Linux?
# [14:27] * Gijs is confused.
# [14:27] <RyanVM> man, I am on a *roll* today!
# [14:28] <RyanVM> Gijs: coalescing?
# [14:28] * Ms2ger rolls RyanVM
# [14:28] <Gijs> RyanVM: are you on the west coast and still awake? o.O
# [14:28] <RyanVM> Gijs: east coast and waking up
# [14:28] <Gijs> Anyway, um, would coalescing happen on some platforms and not others?
# [14:29] <Gijs> I guess I expected it to be an all or nothing deal.
# [14:29] <RyanVM> Gijs: because it depends on what's pending at the time and what slaves are available
# [14:29] <RyanVM> you would be expecting wrong
# [14:29] <Gijs> Aha.
# [14:29] <RyanVM> you can trigger what you want in self-serve still
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# [14:29] <Gijs> Oooh. That is an interesting suggestion.
# [14:29] <Gijs> RyanVM: in future, what is an appropriate time to wait inbetween pushes for evil purposes such as mine?
# [14:30] <RyanVM> "it depends"
# [14:30] <Gijs> (I realize this is atypical, but we're tracking down talos regressions and all the info we can get helps)
# [14:30] <RyanVM> I usually wait 15-20min, but that's not a guarantee if we're backed up
# [14:30] <Gijs> (coalescing, therefore, doesn't :( )
# [14:30] <Gijs> Right, makes sense!
# [14:30] <RyanVM> so in this case, retrigger the linux builds for 330694246224 in self-serve
# [14:31] <RyanVM> and your tests should all run automatically like usual once they finish
# [14:31] <Gijs> RyanVM: Uh, actually... would this be the bottom of the self-serve page?
# [14:31] <RyanVM> no
# [14:31] <RyanVM> unless you want *all* dep builds retriggered
# [14:31] <Gijs> Nope.
# [14:31] <RyanVM> in the "builds" section
# [14:31] <RyanVM> Linux ux build
# [14:31] <RyanVM> Linux x86-64 ux build
# [14:32] <RyanVM> (I'm assuming you don't care about debug if talos is what you're interested in)
# [14:32] <Gijs> that is correct.
# [14:32] <Gijs> Thanks a lot! :)
# [14:32] <RyanVM> np :)
# [14:32] <RyanVM> in this case, I would say to just wait until you see the builds started on the first push before pushign the second one
# [14:32] <RyanVM> (for the future)
# [14:33] <Gijs> That also makes a lot of sense. :)
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# [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e63574cbbc97 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 886277. r=djvj
# [14:37] <RyanVM> oh wow, a new bug filed by igor
# [14:37] <mcsmurf> igor2?
# [14:37] <mcsmurf> if I recall correctly his bugmail :o
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# [14:38] <RyanVM> yes, mr. bukanov himself
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# [14:38] <RyanVM> mir2, btw :P
# [14:38] <mcsmurf> hah :)
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# [15:00] <Optimize1> if my animation keyframes has to 3 blocks, 0%, 50%, 100%, can I have the animation function so that 0-50 has one and 50-100 has another ?
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# [15:12] <NeilAway> Optimize1: steps(2)?
# [15:12] <Optimize1> no, as in
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# [15:12] <Optimize1> I want 0-50 in ease-in and 50-100 in linear
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# [15:14] <Optimize1> NeilAway: ^
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# [15:23] <karl> glandium: what do you think about an nsTHashtable as a global variable wrt static constructors? the constructor sets one member to 0: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsTHashtable.h#374
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# [15:24] <Ms2ger> Sounds like a static constructor
# [15:24] <sachin_h> I have a complex pref name with me. But I don't know what interface it implements. I'd like to get its value. nsIPrefBranch::getComplexvalue requires that I pass it as the 2nd argument.
# [15:24] <karl> glandium: there is a destructor too
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# [15:25] <karl> Ms2ger: compilers don't optimize that away?
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# [15:25] <sachin_h> continuing my question... is there a way to find out which interface it implements?
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# [15:34] <Yoric> mak: ping
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# [15:34] <mak> Yoric: hi
# [15:34] <Yoric> Hi.
# [15:34] <Yoric> I'm currently working on OMT asyncclose.
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# [15:34] <mak> Yoric: awesome
# [15:34] <Yoric> What semantics would you want if statements are not finalized yet?
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# [15:35] <Yoric> Wait until they are finalized?
# [15:35] <Yoric> Fail with an ssertion?
# [15:35] <Yoric> +a
# [15:35] <mak> Yoric: how does that differ from the current situation?
# [15:36] <Yoric> Well, in differs in the fact that I am currently tracking down misbehavers that seem to not finalize statements :)
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# [15:36] <Yoric> But no, there is no real difference, just the fact that the assertion failure will be less helpful given to the lack of stack trace.
# [15:36] <Yoric> (since it's OMT)
# [15:36] <Yoric> s/given to/given/
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# [15:37] <mak> Yoric: hm, don't we print the unfinalized stmt SQL?
# [15:37] <Yoric> Yes, we do.
# [15:37] <Yoric> So do I take it that you want to keep the same behavior?
# [15:37] <mak> I think that may be enough even without a full stack
# [15:37] <mak> yes
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# [15:38] <Yoric> Actually, the other difference is that I suspect users will often just fire statements (typically INSERT statements) and close immediately, expecting the database to handle queueing.
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# [15:38] <mak> well, it does
# [15:39] <mak> it should
# [15:40] <Yoric> mak: Related question: does NewBindingParamsArray add a reference to the statement?
# [15:40] * Yoric is attempting to find out the last(?) reference to a non-finalized statement.
# [15:41] <mak> Yoric: well, yes it references the stmt, but I'm not sure what's the question
# [15:42] <mak> and why does it matter
# [15:42] <Yoric> Well, I have an async statement created somewhere in nsCookieService and never finalized.
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# [15:42] <Yoric> Since finalization of async statements happens when they are deleted, I'm trying to find out what hangs onto that statement.
# [15:43] <froydnj> karl: some compilers don't optimize that away into static data, no
# [15:43] <karl> thansk
# [15:43] <mak> Yoric: and the current code does not complain?
# [15:43] <karl> ^T
# [15:43] <Yoric> mak: No, it doesn't.
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# [15:44] <Yoric> I already found one small error in nsCookieService that could have caused the issue, but it's not the [only] one.
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# [15:44] <Yoric> i.e. some of the code null-ed the references immediately after calling AsyncClose.
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# [15:45] <mak> Yoric: pay attention that I think we have 2 different connections there, one synchronous and one asynchronous, so you may be tracking the wrong statements
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# [15:46] <mak> Yoric: but yeah, I see some stmts not being finalized there
# [15:46] * @smaug wonders if we should remove executeSoon
# [15:46] <@smaug> it seems to be very error prone
# [15:46] <mak> Yoric: it should really use a StatementCache, humpf.
# [15:47] <froydnj> smaug: error-prone how?
# [15:47] <Yoric> mak: Should I try and port it to StatementCache?
# [15:47] * Yoric hasn't used that.
# [15:47] <mak> Yoric: not mandatory
# [15:48] <@smaug> froydnj: tests seem to expect that we're in certain state when executeSoon callback is called
# [15:48] <@smaug> froydnj: but nothing guarantees that
# [15:48] <@smaug> so if you add something to event loop or make timing a bit different, things break badly
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# [16:00] <Yoric> mak: Well, the assertion failure is with AsyncClose.
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# [16:04] <mak> Yoric: I'm not totally sure why it was not failing before, but it's very likely it's just result of my rusty memory
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# [16:09] <Yoric> mak: Wouldn't it be interesting to have a AsyncWait() method for mozIStorageAsyncConnection that simply returns once all current statements are complete?
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# [16:11] <gw280> how do I trigger my push on m-i to be a full clobber build?
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# [16:11] <Yoric> mak: That might actually be the only sane way to implement some things without race conditions.
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# [16:12] <NeilAway> Optimize1: you might need to devise a custom timing function for that
# [16:12] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: heh
# [16:12] <@ted> gw280: you can touch the CLOBBER file in the tree if you want everyone to have to clobber when building it
# [16:12] * Ms2ger scrolls back
# [16:12] <@ted> or you can use the clobberer webapp to clobber some build slaves
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# [16:13] <gw280> ted: ok, so for this: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=3e1ed95df35a
# [16:13] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, video?
# [16:13] <gw280> ted: the build failures are due to non-clobber by the looks of it
# [16:13] <mak> Yoric: I still don't see the problem with the current approach, why should anyone wait when you can already get the close callback?
# [16:13] <froydnj> smaug: yes, I have noticed this =/
# [16:13] <gw280> ted: should I just push a commit that touches clobber?
# [16:13] <Ms2ger> Or Optimizer
# [16:13] <Optimize1> NeilAway: cubic-bezier is not much help
# [16:13] <mak> Yoric: and there is no race condition, everything on the thread is serialized
# [16:13] <@ted> RyanVM: can you help poor gw280 out?
# [16:13] <Yoric> mak: Because that's not always the same API clients doing, say, the "let's add something to the database" and "let's quit firefox, hence closing the database."
# [16:14] <Yoric> mak: And we have one race condition, between executeAsync and AsyncClose, don't we?
# [16:14] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: the latter
# [16:14] <RyanVM> gw280: push the CLOBBER update
# [16:14] <RyanVM> actually, I will
# [16:15] * RyanVM closes inbound for other bustage
# [16:15] <gw280> oh ok
# [16:15] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, yeah, I realized after I noticed the relative timing of your other comment :)
# [16:15] <mak> Yoric: no, everything is serialized, the asyncClose runnable is enqueued after the executeAsync runnable
# [16:15] <mstange> oh no!
# [16:15] <Yoric> mak: Ah, in that case, my suggestion is pointless.
# [16:15] <mstange> RyanVM: did I cause the linux orange?
# [16:16] <RyanVM> yep
# [16:16] <mak> Yoric: that's what we always ensured, all of the runnables must be serialized before the asyncClose runnable
# [16:16] <gw280> thanks
# [16:16] <RyanVM> mstange: any preference on which cset to backout?
# [16:16] <Yoric> mak: So going back to try and find out what has a strong reference on stmtInsert.
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# [16:16] <mak> Yoric: for example, you can stmt.asyncExecute(); stmt.finalize() immediately
# [16:16] <mstange> RyanVM: the big one
# [16:16] <Yoric> mak: Good :)
# [16:16] <RyanVM> ok
# [16:16] <mak> Yoric: there's no reason to wait
# [16:17] <Yoric> I had obviously misunderstood one of your earlier comments.
# [16:17] <mak> Yoric: 90% my fault :)
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# [16:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73da858ef7ab - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 848491 - Touch CLOBBER for the Skia update.
# [16:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a659fed0d743 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset cff8971a6519 (bug 882523) for Linux reftest-ipc crashes.
# [16:20] <mak> Yoric: fwiw, I started converting autocomplete to async connection... half done
# [16:21] <Yoric> cool :)
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# [16:58] <Yoric> Is there a good way to place a breakpoint to whenever some data's refcount is incremented?
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# [16:58] <padenot> class::AddRef?
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# [16:59] <Yoric> That's too coarse.
# [16:59] <Yoric> I'd prefer something finer-grained.
# [16:59] <padenot> I mean, replace class by your c;ass
# [16:59] <padenot> class
# [16:59] <padenot> and put a condition
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# [17:03] <margaret> KWierso|Home: delayed pong, thanks for the backout :/
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# [17:20] <glandium> karl: if there's a destructor, then there's going to be a constructor to set the destructor
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# [17:30] <froydnj> Yoric: |break -m class::AddRef| (or whatever the special switch for methods is) doesn't work?
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# [17:38] <Yoric> Thanks.
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# [17:39] <Optimizer> Ms2ger: or Optimizer for what ?
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# [17:40] <jesup> froydnj: not much. We're not adding code at this point (much); we added it all back last summer/fall
# [17:41] <jesup> And it only added 30-60 seconds to a clobber build back then
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# [17:56] <@bsmedberg> jcranmer: pong
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# [17:57] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884061#c9
# [17:57] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: do you have any thoughts on the xpcom/sample issue?
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# [18:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30b2b15e03dc - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 888323 - Stop including prtime.h in nsrootidl.idl. r=ehsan
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# [18:01] <carlsonp> Hi all, I'm doing some academic research on Mozilla developers and community members, as part of this I'm gathering some data via a survey, more details are posted in the mozillians/dev-apps-firefox mailing lists but in case you haven't seen it, I would really appreciate participation if you have a few minutes, thanks: https://vrac.us2.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_1RDku9bssXfo7Od
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# [18:03] <mcsmurf> carlsonp: so I have to provide a mail address?
# [18:03] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: which university and group are you associated with?
# [18:03] <mcsmurf> I want to answer this anonymously ;)
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# [18:04] <carlsonp> mcsmurf, well, it's not really required if you really don't want to provide it but all the data is private, I will NOT be releasing the raw data or emails ever
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# [18:04] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: also, what's your real name, before I go an fill this out?
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# [18:04] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, Iowa State University: Human Computer Interaction
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# [18:04] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, Patrick Carlson: http://public.vrac.iastate.edu/~carlsonp/
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# [18:05] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: thanks, just making sure you aren't affiliated with NSA, or something
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# [18:05] <padenot> like it would make a difference
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# [18:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/064524edbea2 - Joey Armstrong - bug 870370: EXTRA_COMPONENTS cleanup for conversion patches #1 & #2.
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# [18:06] <carlsonp> thanks, I really do appreciate it
# [18:06] <ialagenchev> padenot: peace of mind
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# [18:06] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: are you using the emails for anything ?
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# [18:08] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, I will be matching the emails with public data surrounding Mozilla (source code commits, bug reports, etc.) and running aggregate analysis on this
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# [18:08] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: thanks.
# [18:08] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, I am currently working on some web-based tools to help developers understand the sourcecode/community and help in the socialization process
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# [18:09] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: no probs. I am happy to help in your research
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# [18:12] <froydnj> jesup: hum, well *something* has added about 30-50% build time on my fast machine and I'd really like to know what it is
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# [18:14] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: your survey is a bit weird to me. How often do you use free software - what does always mean? As in I never use commercial, or I use it every day
# [18:14] <@smaug> froydnj: added when?
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# [18:14] <froydnj> smaug: hard to say; last month or two, maybe?
# [18:14] <@smaug> more webidl stuff
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# [18:15] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: also, most of the responses are in text boxes, which will make it difficult to parse by computer later on
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# [18:16] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, sorry, always would mean every day
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# [18:16] <ialagenchev> also how much programming experience - I really can't gauge others
# [18:16] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, yes, however, I wanted to keep options open for people in responding, I will hand check the data at the end
# [18:16] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: so i think there should be a "I don't know how I compare to others"
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# [18:17] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, yes relative experience may be difficult to identify, just pick the answer that you feel is best
# [18:17] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: ok
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# [18:20] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: you might wanna change your minutes per week to hours per week
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# [18:20] <jesup> froydnj: yeah, I was complaining about that a month or two ago. Never figured it out, but I correlated a big drop in build speed to around the time I installed a whole pile of updates to my Fedora 17. Maybe GCC? The WebIDL conversions are also worth considering. I'd slowly gone from ~12 minutes a year+ ago to 14-14.5 minutes ,then *something* jumped it to around 22 minutes.
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# [18:21] <jesup> If someone keeps a graph of builder build times, that might tell you (modulo hardware replacements like the new windows builders)
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# [18:21] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, yeah, I thought about this, some people may only contribute a small amount, and others much more, I thought it would be easier to multiply than to put fractional hours
# [18:22] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: that is true, but some people will screw it up and put hours where it should have been minutes and it will totally throw your data off.
# [18:22] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, true
# [18:22] <@ehsan> RyanVM|lunch: do you plan to do an inbound->m-c merge today?
# [18:23] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: also, something you might want to take into consideration is that a lot of the employees started as volunteers, so they are getting compensated now, but that wasn't always the case
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# [18:23] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: what is software management?
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# [18:24] <carlsonp> ialagenchev, software management would be the planning that goes behind the development, managing schedules, etc.
# [18:25] <ialagenchev> carlsonp: thanks. I was making sure it's not source control you meant there
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# [18:30] <Optimizer> ok
# [18:30] <froydnj> jesup: yeah, that'd about the same slowdown I saw
# [18:30] <froydnj> jesup: I did upgrade to gcc 4.7 recently, that would suck if a compiler upgrade added 30% build time =/
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# [18:36] <jimm> not a lot of historical data though
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# [19:01] <@ehsan> padenot: ping
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# [19:08] <jcranmer> ehsan: why do you think that's the wrong link?
# [19:09] <@ehsan> jcranmer: because that clang doesn't use refcounting as far as I can tell
# [19:09] <jcranmer> ehsan: look at line 58 and line 61
# [19:09] <@ehsan> jcranmer: oh
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# [19:09] <@ehsan> you're right
# [19:09] <@ehsan> jcranmer: WTF indeed! ;)
# [19:10] <jcranmer> I'm very tempted to delete operator= from nsAutoRefCnt as well
# [19:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ead825314678 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Use an AutoPushJSContext in XPCCallContext instead of doing it manually. r=gabor
# [19:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d00977f69122 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Rename xpc::{Push,Pop}JSContext and make them assert against DOM JSContexts. r=gabor
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# [19:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50d04f7ba200 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Remove nsIXPConnect::ReleaseJSContext. r=gabor
# [19:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9cf77341f1f3 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Remove unused AutoPopJSContext. r=gabor
# [19:10] <@ehsan> jcranmer: I'd back that up
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# [19:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/14ff829e95c8 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Make XPCJSContextStack manipulators private to enforce that we go through the RAII classes. r=gabor
# [19:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70e9a8d939ea - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Stop using XPConnect::ReleaseJSContext in nsJSEnvironment::DestroyJSContext. r=gabor,mccr8
# [19:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e4bb03186a2 - Bobby Holley - Bug 860085 - Remove XPCCallContext refcounting optimization. r=gabor
# [19:10] <Ms2ger> \o/
# [19:11] <@ehsan> jcranmer: the scary thing is that copy ctor is being used in MediaResource.cpp:749 :(
# [19:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9b3b362ac62b - Gregory Szorc - Bug 886498 - Obtain lock before writing to terminal; r=ted
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# [19:11] <jcranmer> ehsan: I've fixed that copy ctor locally to do the right thing
# [19:11] <catalinn> I'm trying to build the mozilla code (./mach build), but right form the start it returns an error: /bin/sh: 1: autoconf2.13: not found . Does anyone know how could I get pass this?
# [19:11] <jcranmer> catalinn: what OS?
# [19:11] <@ehsan> jcranmer: cool
# [19:12] <catalinn> jcranmer: ubuntu 13.04
# [19:12] <jcranmer> catalinn: sudo apt-get install autoconf2.13
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# [19:12] <jcranmer> better yet, sudo apt-get build-dep mozilla-firefox [is that the right package name on Ubuntu?]
# [19:12] <@ted> or you could just run the bootstrap script
# [19:13] <@ted> which should fix anything else you'd hit as well
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# [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1ac79e6ba29 - Jonathan Griffin - Bug 887841 - Be very careful when deleting a session that may not exist, r=mdas
# [19:13] <jcranmer> but that's too much work :-P
# [19:13] <felipe> Avih: pong (in a conference, might be hard to reply)
# [19:13] <@ted> python/mozboot/mozboot/bootstrap.py
# [19:13] <@ted> IIRC
# [19:13] <catalinn> jcranmer: thank you! it works
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# [19:14] <@ted> catalinn: might be worthwhile running bootstrap anyway
# [19:14] <@ted> we have a bunch of other dependencies
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# [19:15] <avih> felipe: no worries. reply when you can. about bug 888300: 1. i noticed the push is different than the patch posted to the bug. would be nice to have them the same. 2. how big of a risk you think it would be to uplift bug 888300 to beta? i wanna ask asa to decide on bug 888304 after i have some risk estimation on the former.
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# [19:16] <avih> (i would guess minimal risk on the uplift, and beta still has almost a full cycle to back it out if we must)
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# [19:17] <KWierso|Home> carlsonp: whoa
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# [19:18] <KWierso|Home> I remember you from Simpson!
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# [19:19] <Ms2ger> khuey|on-a-boat, on-a-boat?
# [19:19] <padenot> ehsan: pong
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# [19:20] <@ehsan> padenot: do you have some time to edit https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web_Audio_API/Porting_webkitAudioContext_code_to_standards_based_AudioContext today?
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# [19:20] <@khuey|on-a-boat> Ms2ger: I'm on a boat
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# [19:20] <padenot> ehsan: not today, but I can certainly do it tomowrrow morning
# [19:20] <@khuey|on-a-boat> Ms2ger: gotta get to the airport
# [19:21] <@ehsan> padenot: that's good
# [19:21] <@dbaron> khuey|on-a-boat, when is your flight?
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# [19:21] * Ms2ger didn't know airports floated
# [19:21] <@khuey|on-a-boat> dbaron: 1
# [19:21] <@ehsan> padenot: somebody suggested that we should include code samples even for trivial cases
# [19:21] <@khuey|on-a-boat> ah we're at the dock
# [19:21] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, so, but they sometimes sink
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# [19:21] <@dbaron> s/so/no/
# [19:21] <padenot> ehsan: okay
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# [19:21] <@ehsan> padenot: thanks a lot!
# [19:21] <Ms2ger> dbaron, Airport Atlantis?
# [19:22] <Ms2ger> khuey|pto, but my reviews! ;)
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# [19:22] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansai_International_Airport#Construction
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# [19:23] <carlsonp> KWierso|Home, hey! small world
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# [19:24] <Ms2ger> dbaron, fascinating
# [19:25] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, now they've learned how to build airports on landfill
# [19:25] <@dbaron> Ms2ger, but it took some learning from experience
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# [19:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74a99b693466 - Wes Johnston - Bug 822820 - Update SUMO bookmark URL and favicon. r=margaret
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# [19:29] <@bz> ehsan: ping
# [19:30] <@bz> ehsan: got a sec to talk about bug 889014 ?
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# [19:31] <@ehsan> bz: yeah
# [19:31] <@bz> ehsan: so what behavior are we after here?
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# [19:31] <@ehsan> bz: my goal is for AudioContext to behave exactly as if we removed that function from the webidl file if that pref is not set
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# [19:31] <@bz> ehsan: ok
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# [19:32] <@bz> ehsan: then the simplest thing to do is to have the ArrayBuffer overload check the pref
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# [19:32] <@bz> ehsan: and if not set, call the integer overload, right?
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# [19:32] <@bz> ehsan: passing 0, which is what ToInteger(new ArrayBuffer) is
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# [19:34] <@ehsan> hmm
# [19:34] <@bz> ehsan: or better yet just do a JS_ValueToInt32 or whatever
# [19:35] <@bz> ehsan: in case someone stuck a valueOf on the ArrayBuffer
# [19:35] <@ehsan> bz: so I would call createBuffer(0, (int)mixToMono, 0)?
# [19:35] <@bz> ehsan: (yes, this language is insane)
# [19:35] <@bz> er, wait
# [19:35] <@bz> wait
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# [19:35] <@bz> These overloads have different arg counts?
# [19:36] <@bz> And none of the args are optional
# [19:36] <@bz> which means that the arraybuffer overload can only be called with two args
# [19:36] <@ehsan> yes
# [19:36] <@bz> and the other can never be called that way
# [19:36] <@ehsan> correct
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# [19:37] <@bz> So the bindings code would normally do:
# [19:37] <givanica> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mihaitabara
# [19:37] <@bz> return ThrowErrorMessage(cx, MSG_MISSING_ARGUMENTS, "AudioContext.createBuffer");
# [19:37] <givanica> sorry for the post
# [19:37] <@bz> in that case
# [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4f1cec360dd - Wes Johnston - Bug 822820 - Update robocop for new SUMO url. r=margaret
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# [19:38] <@bz> We could add a case to ThrowMethodFailedWithDetails to do that if the rv is NS_ERROR_XPC_NOT_ENOUGH_ARGS or some such
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# [19:39] <@bz> (or introduce a new nsresult value or state on ErrorResult to represent this)
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# [19:39] <kats> try hanging for anybody else?
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# [19:40] <@ehsan> hmm
# [19:40] <@ehsan> bz: ok, let me see what I can do
# [19:40] <@bz> ehsan: good luck
# [19:40] <@ehsan> bz: will you be available to review the patch?
# [19:40] <@bz> ehsan: on and off....
# [19:40] <@bz> ehsan: I mean, tomorrow and Friday are non-work-days, right? ;)
# [19:41] <@bz> ehsan: but on Monday or sometime tonight, probably
# [19:41] <@ehsan> bz: heh, yeah, ok
# [19:41] <@ehsan> thanks a lot!
# [19:41] <@bz> ehsan: no problem!
# [19:41] <vlad> are plugins (flash) expected to hang in the latest windows nightly?
# [19:41] <vlad> hm, not the latest
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# [19:44] <vlad> ok, now the latest
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# [19:45] <mcsmurf> vlad: let me update, but with 2013-07-01 Flash works fine
# [19:45] <mcsmurf> (Win7)
# [19:46] <mcsmurf> vlad: what page did you test with?
# [19:46] <mcsmurf> whoa, now I crashed
# [19:47] <mcsmurf> first crash in a long time (but not because of Flash I think :)
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# [19:48] <KWierso|Home> (win8, flash 11.7.700.224)
# [19:48] <vlad> mcsmurf: rdio
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# [19:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/25654c97929b - Justin Lebar - Bug 888511 - Follow-up: Fire onsuccess properly in Webapp.js after launching an app. r=fabrice
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# [19:59] <timeless> bz: do you have a minute?
# [19:59] <RyanVM> hey stranger!
# [19:59] <timeless> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raymond-rtcweb-webrtc-js-obj-api-rationale-00
# [19:59] <timeless> h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, .h1, .h2, .h3, .h4, .h5, .h6 {
# [19:59] <timeless> line-height: 0pt;
# [20:00] <timeless> -- IE10 honors that line height and renders "2. Issues with a ..." as being overwritten by the second line "Answer)"
# [20:00] <timeless> i'm wondering why Firefox isn't doing that, and whether one is more correct than the other
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# [20:09] <felipe> Avih: 1. I got the r+ with those changes made, so I pushed the final patch. Did you want the bug to have the final patch attached? 2. Basically no risk for aurora or beta, the patch is very simple (but I don't know if changing the default pref value will have extra risk.. Though I don't think so)
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# [20:09] <@khuey|airport> Ms2ger: what reviews?
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# [20:10] <Ms2ger> khuey|airport, no idea, but bz was looking for you
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# [20:10] <Ms2ger> khuey|airport, not that he's here
# [20:10] <@khuey|airport> oh
# [20:10] <@khuey|airport> I think we talked in bugzilla
# [20:10] <@khuey|airport> maybe
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# [20:11] <avih> felipe: 1. i don't mind much, just thought it'd be appropriate to have the patch at the bug the same as the one pushed. but as i said, i don't mind much, just noticed it. 2. yeah, obviously the patch without the pref wouldn't do much, i meant how risky in your opinion would the patch with the pref set to 0 be.
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# [20:12] <avih> felipe: if we wanna uplift the w3c disabled patch, i prefer the decision is taken with the risk in mind.
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# [20:14] <joe> THIS JUST IN
# [20:14] <joe> setting MOCHITEST=.mozconfig-opt does not in fact use that mozconfig
# [20:14] <joe> mach is stubbornly against doing what i mean, instead insisting on doing what i say
# [20:14] <@ted> i am shocked
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# [20:16] <@khuey|airport> you should file a bug
# [20:16] <@khuey|airport> so I can WONTFIX it
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# [20:24] <mjrosenb> uh-oh, firefox isn't showing any tabs from my last session
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# [20:25] <mjrosenb> guess i'm 1,100 tabs lighter now :(
# [20:25] <KWierso|Home> mjrosenb: about:sessionrestore ?
# [20:25] <KWierso|Home> Or History - Recently closed windows?
# [20:25] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: session restore
# [20:26] <@smaug> khuey|airport: are we that close to 900k?
# [20:26] <Ms2ger> Check the .bak file in your profile asap
# [20:26] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: about:sessonrestore does not list any tabs.
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# [20:26] <Ms2ger> smaug, we're at 889957
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# [20:26] <@smaug> er, I should learn to read
# [20:27] <gaston> quick, file a bug!
# [20:27] * @smaug files a bug: smaug should learn to read English
# [20:28] <mjrosenb> ~/.mozilla; wc -l ./firefox/w2m6mn83.default/sessionstore.bak
# [20:28] <mjrosenb> 0 ./firefox/w2m6mn83.default/sessionstore.bak
# [20:28] <mjrosenb> uhh
# [20:28] <mjrosenb> ~/.mozilla; wc -c ./firefox/w2m6mn83.default/sessionstore.bak
# [20:28] <mjrosenb> 15785862 ./firefox/w2m6mn83.default/sessionstore.bak
# [20:28] <mjrosenb> "very long lines" indeed.
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# [20:29] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: ok, does this imply that the file is just corrupted, and with some manual modifications, I can get it loaded?
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# [20:29] <KWierso|Home> mjrosenb: grab a copy of .bak
# [20:29] <KWierso|Home> close Firefox
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# [20:29] <KWierso|Home> change the file extension to .js
# [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0feaf5201a90 - Rodrigo Silveira - Bug 881971 - There should be some default bookmarks in a fresh metro profile r=timabraldes
# [20:29] <KWierso|Home> put it back in the profile folder, and restart Firefox
# [20:30] <KWierso|Home> see what happens
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# [20:31] <jcranmer> froydnj: really? people do that?
# [20:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f119f52bfa1e - Terrence Cole - Bug 888463 - Relocate hoisted elements/slots when their allocation moves during minor GC; r=billm
# [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/193dc4224534 - Terrence Cole - Bug 888463 - Remove code to skip shrinkSlots for call objects. r=jandem
# [20:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9a62d56be0bc - Jan de Mooij - Bug 888872 - Keep track of slots/elements pointers stored in Ion frames for generational GC. r=dvander,terrence
# [20:32] <froydnj> whoa, 1000 pending jobs on try, guess people are testing their patches again
# [20:32] <froydnj> jcranmer: it's gecko, people do *everything*, even if it's a bad idea
# [20:32] <Ms2ger> froydnj: really? people do that?
# [20:33] <froydnj> Ms2ger: probably just one person who wants to be *really* sure
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# [20:33] <jcranmer> froydnj: well, at least in that case, they were smart enough to set the refcount correctly again
# [20:33] <@smaug> that would be me
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# [20:33] <Ms2ger> Yep, smacleod
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> Er
# [20:33] <@smaug> well, I'm debugging using try
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> smaug
# [20:33] <jcranmer> froydnj: the one I found originally they weren't
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> And Yoric
# [20:33] <jcranmer> and basically leaking
# [20:33] <Ms2ger> And mshal / joey
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# [20:34] <froydnj> jcranmer: have you found any more?
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# [20:34] <jcranmer> but that's because I'm doing something called "touch almost every single refcount in all of gecko"
# [20:34] <@smaug> who is gbrown
# [20:34] <jcranmer> your mom
# [20:34] <@smaug> I doubt
# [20:35] <froydnj> love those touch-files-all-over-the-tree patches
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# [20:37] <mjrosenb> KWierso|Home: ok, I copied it to sessionstore.js, and opened firefox, still gives me the about:sessionrestore page, but no tabs listed
# [20:37] <KWierso|Home> :(
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# [20:38] <KWierso|Home> you could probably open the .bak file in a text editor and pull out each tab's most recent URL
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# [20:39] <Ms2ger> mjrosenb, I've used http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2589215 in the past
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# [20:40] <mjrosenb> the *really* important stuff has been bookmarked
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# [20:40] <mjrosenb> other than that it was probabli 600 bugzilla tabs for bugs that are already resolved, 400 newegg tabs, and the rest are things from hacker news that i've been 'meaning to get around to'
# [20:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56a63eee73b4 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 880101: attempt #2 at fixing an intermittent orange, wait a bit longer before trying to check the location bar in a new window
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# [20:41] <mjrosenb> *probably
# [20:42] <@khuey|airport> my firefox just deadlocked :-/
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# [20:44] <mjrosenb> khuey|airport: file a bug!
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# [20:45] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Mmmmh?
# [20:45] <Ms2ger> Yoric, you've been using some try resources
# [20:45] <Yoric> Yes, I have.
# [20:45] <Ms2ger> That's all
# [20:45] <Yoric> I'm trying to lower my high score, but that might take some time :)
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# [20:48] <jcranmer> my patch queue has patch 0 touch configure.in, patch 1 touch jsapi.h, patches 2-4 each touch nsISupportsImpl.h (included by nsCOMPtr.h), patch 6 touch xpidl.py
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# [20:48] <jcranmer> applying/unapplying a patch is pretty much a world rebuild
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# [20:53] <@bsmedberg> bhearsum|buildduty: are we taking bets on how much the windows defender thing will improve wall times? ;-)
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# [20:53] <bhearsum|buildduty> bsmedberg: as long as the house can rake the pot, sure!
# [20:53] <jgilbert> bsmedberg: windows defender thing?
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# [20:54] <@bsmedberg> jgilbert: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889475#c9
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# [20:54] * @ted hopes it's that simple
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# [20:54] <jgilbert> interesting
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# [20:54] <bhearsum|buildduty> ted: to disable it?
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# [20:55] <@ted> bhearsum|buildduty: that that's the root cause
# [20:55] <@ted> but i hope i'm wrong!
# [20:55] <jgilbert> I remember excluding my moz-* paths
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# [21:11] <Mossop> aki: Is there a way to have b2g_desktop_multilocale.py pass -d to make on windows builds?
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# [21:12] <aki> Mossop: sure, that should be possible
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# [21:13] <Mossop> aki: Is that something you might have time to do, or could point me to how to do?
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# [21:14] <aki> Mossop: every single make command would have -d? or just one?
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# [21:16] <Mossop> aki: The only one I'm interested in is the one that ends up running make.py -C app that fails here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=24068753&tree=Mozilla-Inbound#error3
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# [21:19] <@bsmedberg> Mossop: I *think* you could probably do something like MAKE += -d in b2g/Makefile.in
# [21:19] <aki> Mossop: changing http://hg.mozilla.org/build/mozharness/file/8a1e943176bc/configs/multi_locale/b2g_win32.py#l6 would change it for all instances of pymake in that script
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# [21:20] <aki> Mossop: otherwise putting http://hg.mozilla.org/build/mozharness/file/8a1e943176bc/scripts/b2g_desktop_multilocale.py#l189 in an |if self._is_windows(): else:| would work
# [21:21] <Mossop> aki: Ok I'll take a look. Maybe rather than changing in I should request a build slave and see if I can reproduce and thinker there
# [21:21] <aki> ok, that works too
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# [22:17] <@smaug> try is closed again
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# [22:20] <imelven> oops wrong channel :)
# [22:21] <imelven> that would explain why he isn't here
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# [22:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/25ac2f74bbfe - Gavin Sharp - Bug 885351 - Make sure defaultEngine and currentEngine are always in sync, including when the prefs have invalid values or after an upgrade from <FF23. r=MattN, a=lsblakk
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# [22:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/76df955550e3 - Stephen Pohl - Bug 868416 - Keep overlay scrollbars the same size irrespective of the current document zoom level. r=roc, a=lsblakk
# [22:31] <@bz> gps: ping
# [22:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/726aa04870b7 - Wes Johnston - Bug 888949 - Return hours in 0-23 range for time input types. r=mounir, a=lsblakk
# [22:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f710e29bb549 - Mark Capella - Bug 868222 - Tab increment animation displays an artifact. r=wesj, a=lsblakk
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# [22:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2ec48309f544 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 874888 - Update privacy policy link URL on about:rights for Fennec. r=wesj, a=lsblakk
# [22:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f35c9d86cc1a - Chris Kitching - Bug 885941 - Homogenize privacy links in Fennec. r=mleibovic, a=lsblakk
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# [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd6b4a1ef09c - David Anderson - Bug 886988 - Reset the nsChildView layer manager when we change the transparency mode. r=roc
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# [22:40] <froydnj> what's the right thing to do when some javascript is hanging firefox? file a bug under tech evangelism?
# [22:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6b9967574468 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 886134 - Make Datachannel DTLS/SCTP line forward-compatible with FF24 - target FF23 r=jesup
# [22:41] <froydnj> doesn't seem to be bringing forth the slow script dialog, either
# [22:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/85d75ed04851 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 884134 - Fix ifdef to un-break B2G mochitest-3.
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# [22:43] <@bz> gps: are you still there?
# [22:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8567c5961b77 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 889963 - Unbust |mach build| when build terminal isn't present; r=ted
# [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85d75ed04851 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 884134 - Fix ifdef to un-break B2G mochitest-3.
# [22:43] <@bz> gps: have a build system issue...
# [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38767daf33dd - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-ec2-324 - a=hsts-update
# [22:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d7bfd5a59c68 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c and inbound.
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# [22:44] <adw> jlebar: could i ask you about <iframe mozbrowser>?
# [22:44] <froydnj> and all my tabs are gone now, excellent
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# [22:45] <Optimizer> froydnj: after firefox crashed ?. right ?
# [22:46] <froydnj> Optimizer: well, after I shut it down from gdb
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# [22:46] <Optimizer> i see .
# [22:46] <Optimizer> so I was also facing it yesterday, but only when I had to kill firefox.exe when it was hanged on debugger
# [22:46] <sfink> I don't normally see any tabs open when firefox is not running
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# [22:47] <Optimizer> sfink: lol
# [22:47] <Optimizer> thus the excellent
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# [22:50] <KWierso|Home> RyanVM: make[7]: *** [BasicCompositor.o] Error 1
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# [22:50] <KWierso|Home> on a push that touched the compositor...
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# [22:51] <mattwoodrow> wtf, I have warnings-as-errors enabled :(
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# [22:52] <froydnj> mccr8: ping
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# [22:52] <RyanVM> at least he's here to fix
# [22:53] <mccr8> froydnj: pong
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# [22:53] <froydnj> mccr8: so I have a locked-up ff
# [22:53] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: which I assume your'e doing
# [22:53] <mattwoodrow> RyanVM: I'll push a follow-up
# [22:53] <mccr8> uh oh
# [22:53] <RyanVM> sounds good, thanks
# [22:53] <froydnj> mccr8: and this stack seems to be showing up often with C-c gdb profiling: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2589521
# [22:54] <froydnj> mccr8: is that just crappy content JS, or is there a problem with the cycle collector?
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# [22:54] <mccr8> froydnj: I'm not sure. I've seen a problem similar to that before, though maybe it was you.
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# [22:55] <mccr8> froydnj: it is weird... forgetskippable should be called on a timer. though maybe in some circumstance it isn't...
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# [22:56] <mccr8> froydnj: bug 868139 is what I was thinking of
# [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b71a993bce69 - Matt Woodrow - Bug 865104 - Follow-up to fix build
# [22:57] <froydnj> mccr8: that looks similar
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# [22:58] <mccr8> yeah kind of mysterious. afk for a bit...
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# [23:02] <rnewman> good guy RyanVM; lands your patches while you wait for hg up -C to complete
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# [23:02] <rnewman> (but I'll take care of these FHR landings)
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# [23:02] <RyanVM> rnewman: fine by me :P
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# [23:04] <rnewman> keeps me in practice ;)
# [23:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/3ec7f5434e27 - Ben Turner - Bug 879787 - Fix up old tests to use SpecialPowers. r=smaug, a=abillings.
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# [23:07] <NeilAway> who can tell me why expandlibs_exec.py is removing mozglue.dll from the link command line?
# [23:08] <NeilAway> sorry, I mean mozglue.lib of course
# [23:08] <jlebar> adw: sure
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# [23:09] <adw> jlebar: hi, thanks. i need to sandbox page loads on desktop firefox so that they don't interact with the user's normal browsing session -- cookies, history, etc.
# [23:09] <jlebar> adw: for what purpose?
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# [23:09] <adw> taking screenshots of pages to use as thumbnails
# [23:10] <jlebar> oh, that bug.
# [23:10] <jlebar> okay.
# [23:10] <adw> yeah :-)
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# [23:10] <adw> and mozbrowser seems to offer what we need
# [23:10] <jlebar> adw: probably, yes.
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# [23:10] <adw> i was thinking we could use some bogus/reserved app id/origin to effectively sandbox these loads
# [23:11] <jlebar> adw: I'm not sure how well screenshotting will work when the page is not visible, but if it doesn't work, we can make the gfx people fix that.
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# [23:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/51daaed82ceb - Ben Turner - Bug 879787 - Fix up old tests to use SpecialPowers. r=smaug, a=abillings.
# [23:11] <adw> so one complication is that we'd like to use a remote browser, but <iframe mozbrowser remote> is disabled on desktop, correct?
# [23:11] <jlebar> adw: I would not recommend starting with a remote browser.
# [23:11] <adw> ok, but why not?
# [23:12] <jlebar> adw: That stuff has not been used in desktop for a long time.
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# [23:12] <jlebar> adw: It would be a large can of worms to get it working properly on all platforms, I expect.
# [23:12] <jlebar> adw: I have tons of mozbrowser tests, and all of the oop ones are disabled on Windows.
# [23:12] <adw> we're actually using a remote xul:browser right now
# [23:12] <jlebar> I would probably insist on turning on a lot more remote mozbrowser tests on Windows before you used remote mozbrowser. And I don't have time to do that work.
# [23:12] <adw> and it seems to work ok
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# [23:13] <jlebar> Anyway, if you're asking for my advice: Use mozbrowser with a fake app id (or even make a real app id and register that). Do it not remotely at first, and make that work. And then we can talk about flipping the switch to remote.
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# [23:15] <jlebar> adw: ^
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# [23:15] <adw> jlebar: ok. i'm not too familiar with mozbrowser yet. i'm looking at mdn -- would we have a .webapp at a chrome or resource uri that we'd use?
# [23:16] <jlebar> adw: That's a better question for fabrice, actually.
# [23:16] <jlebar> adw: Whatever app the <mozbrowser> is in, that's what it will use.
# [23:16] <jlebar> adw: we could also add a chrome-only API to specify a particular app.
# [23:17] <jlebar> But Fabrice knows much more about that stuff than I do.
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# [23:17] <adw> jlebar: what do you mean by the app the mozbrowser is "in"? we want this to be offscreen, so would we not just stick it in the hidden window?
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# [23:18] <gfritzsche> jduell: when you get a chance could you take a quick look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853864#c22 ? :)
# [23:18] <jlebar> adw: <iframe mozbrowser> is contained in a window. We call that window the "embedder".
# [23:18] <jlebar> adw: The embedder might be contained in an app.
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# [23:18] <jlebar> adw: If so, then the iframe mozbrowser adopts the app of the embedder.
# [23:18] <adw> i see
# [23:18] <adw> what if the embedder is chrome?
# [23:18] <jlebar> adw: then the app is null. But:
# [23:19] <jlebar> adw: You could use <iframe mozbrowser mozapp>, and then you get to specify an app manifest URL. That might be what you should do.
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# [23:19] <jlebar> adw: The problem with doing /that/ is that content can tell that it's inside an app.
# [23:19] <adw> what exactly does that mean?
# [23:19] <jlebar> adw: So you probably don't want to do that. If you use <iframe mozbrowser>, inside an <iframe mozbrowser mozapp>, you'll get sandboxing, plus content won't be able to see anything different.
# [23:20] <adw> hmm, ok
# [23:20] <jlebar> adw: There's a way e.g. for content to get a representation of "the current app"; I think it's on navigator.
# [23:20] <adw> ok
# [23:20] <jlebar> adw: but (I hope) content in mozbrowser w/o mozapp gets null for "the current app".
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# [23:21] <jlebar> adw: confused yet? :)
# [23:21] <adw> it's all so new and exciting!
# [23:21] <rnewman> bajaj: did https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886156 get skipped for a reason in the last approval pass? was hoping to land it with the rest of the FHR changes
# [23:21] <adw> jlebar: is having a null app a bad thing?
# [23:21] <jlebar> adw: like I said, we can add chrome APIs to do whatever, if the current way of doing things doesn't work for you for some reason.
# [23:21] <jlebar> adw: having a null app is what you want for this.
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# [23:22] <jlebar> adw: because otherwise content could tell that it's inside this weird screenshotty thing.
# [23:22] <adw> ok
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# [23:23] <adw> jlebar: out of curiosity, are the remote parts of remote mozbrowsers and remote xul:browsers implemented differently?
# [23:23] <adw> i'm wondering if your concerns about remote mozbrowser apply to remote xul:browser too
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# [23:27] <jlebar> adw: The remote parts are similar, but not identical.
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# [23:28] <jlebar> adw: I would definitely worry about using remote xul:browser in a shipping product.
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# [23:28] <jlebar> adw: Not that it's off the table, but we just haven't used that code outside of Linux for many years now.
# [23:28] <adw> jlebar: what do we need to do to remove that worry? what's left?
# [23:28] <NeilAway> "Warning: Empty string passed to getElementById()" but blamed line of code doesn't actually call getElementById
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# [23:29] <jlebar> adw: a lot of testing... Probably getting the mozbrowser tests to pass on Windows oop.
# [23:29] <jlebar> adw: the bar is much higher than "it seems to work"
# [23:29] <adw> :-O
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# [23:31] <@gavin> jlebar: people keep saying "remote browsers don't work", but I haven't seen much evidence supporting :)
# [23:31] <@gavin> jlebar: we can look into the tests
# [23:31] <jlebar> gavin: If those started passing, I would have a lot more confidence.
# [23:32] <jlebar> gavin: In general, a feature that has not been used for four years probably doesn't Just Work.
# [23:33] <NeilAway> ha ha, persist attribute without an id attribute generates the warning
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# [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/330f0e58a4ad - Marco Bonardo - Bug 889442 - Remove special about: pages code from DOM Storage.
# [23:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/056f0e496643 - Marco Bonardo - Bug 889442 - Remove old and now unused chromeappsstore.sqlite from the profile dir.
# [23:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3d4efb0f8d7e - Marco Bonardo - Bug 889442 - Remove newTab page migration for chromeappsstore.sqlite
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# [23:49] <mihneadb> mak: ping
# [23:50] <mak> mihneadb: hey, if you're pinging ffor xpcshell, I didn't have a chance to look at it yet... I think friday will be the day
# [23:50] <mihneadb> mak: yep, those
# [23:50] <mihneadb> ok, great
# [23:51] <mak> sorry
# [23:51] <mihneadb> do you know anything about the browser/components/sessionstore subtree?
# [23:51] <mak> I only fixed some oranges there, ttaubert can maybe tell you more
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# [23:51] <mihneadb> ok
# [23:51] <mak> fwiw those tests are quite fragile
# [23:51] <mihneadb> ttaubert: I'm trying to run the xpcshelltests in sessionstore concurrently
# [23:52] <mihneadb> know any "easy fix"? :)
# [23:52] <mihneadb> mak: haha yay
# [23:52] <mak> (ah sorry, I was thinking of the mochitest-browser tests, I never touched the xpcshell tests there)
# [23:52] <ttaubert> mihneadb: uhm. never had anything to do with that. session store is very stateful and doesn't allow multiple instances
# [23:52] <mihneadb> ttaubert: it seems to me that it uses the profile dir
# [23:52] <mak> ttaubert: from what I got, this runs separate processes with separate profiles
# [23:52] <mihneadb> if every test has its own profile, is it doable?
# [23:52] <ttaubert> oh
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# [23:53] <ttaubert> mihneadb: yeah
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# [23:54] <mihneadb> ttaubert: could you point me to someone who knows more about these tests please?
# [23:54] <mihneadb> I guess it would be easier than trying to fix them myself
# [23:54] <cpeterson|phone> mmayo ping?
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# [23:54] <jlebar> smaug: what's the right way to have a cpmm keep a weak ref to a listener?
# [23:55] <ttaubert> mihneadb: I'm the defacto owner of that stuff but I'm not very familiar with the tests as they've been written long before my time. I'll try my best to help you, though :)
# [23:55] <mihneadb> ttaubert: ah, great, thanks
# [23:55] <mihneadb> I'll open a bug and cc you right away
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# [23:55] <ttaubert> mihneadb: ok
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# [23:57] <mihneadb> ttaubert: bug 890071
# [23:57] <@smaug> jlebar: weak ref?
# [23:57] <@smaug> jlebar: there is no way
# [23:57] <jib> FYI I see a typo in m-c today: /Volumes/firefoxos/mozilla-central/dom/system/mac/CoreLocationLocationProvider.mm:8:10: fatal error: 'NSThreadUtils.h' file not found
# [23:57] <jib> #include "NSThreadUtils.h" --- rename to nsThreadUtils.h to compile
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# [23:58] <ttaubert> mihneadb: ok so how can I help you? can I somehow run this locally?
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# [23:58] <cpeterson|phone> jib, that bug should be fixed, but you can just delete the header for now. It is not needed.
# [23:59] <jib> cpeterson: thanks!
# [23:59] <mihneadb> ttaubert: so, you should apply this patch https://bug887054.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=771015
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# [23:59] <mihneadb> ttaubert: and then just ./mach xpcshell-test browser/components/sessionstore
# [23:59] <mihneadb> thanks so much!
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