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  38. # [01:02] <@roc> If I wanted to publish a Mozilla-related video online, should I just submit it to Air Mozilla somehow?
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  61. # [01:29] <NeilAway> Archaeopteryx: indeed it is - my second hg bisect fingered a merge of two working changesets
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  65. # [01:31] <NeilAway> well done build system
  66. # [01:31] <NeilAway> build rev X, up to rev Y, build rev Y, up to rev X, build fails
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  69. # [01:35] <marco> anyone that knows how security in b2g works?
  70. # [01:36] <Callek> marco: "very carefully"
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  75. # [01:38] <marco> Callek: actually I was trying to understand better nsIPrincipals and how they are created in b2g apps
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  77. # [01:40] <Callek> marco: names that come to mind who know about nsIPrincipal: bz, bholly, sicking
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  79. # [01:41] <marco> callek: thank you ;)
  80. # [01:41] <Callek> (maybe s/bholly/bholley/ I can never recall, only know how it is in my head)
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  83. # [01:44] <NeilAway> oh, just the regular "-jx unreliable these days"
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  86. # [01:47] * @njn wonders how to claim a sick day
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  88. # [01:54] <annevk> njn: depends on the country I think, wasn't it collapsed in the US with normal time off?
  89. # [01:54] <@njn> annevk: I'm in Australia, and am 99% certain sick leave and PTO must be separate
  90. # [01:55] <nrc> njn: we just use the PTO app, but put sick leave in the description box
  91. # [01:55] <nrc> (we == NZ)
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  93. # [01:55] <nrc> and then hope that someone, somewhere uses the right time off bucket
  94. # [01:56] <@njn> nrc: awesome
  95. # [01:57] * @njn checks his contract, and sees 20 days of vacation and up to 10 days of paid sick leave per year
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  98. # [01:58] <@njn> nrc: I emailed Bree Tipper who has done some Australian-specific stuff for me before
  99. # [01:59] <@njn> nrc: I mentioned that the NZers used the PTO app
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  101. # [02:00] <nrc> cool, we always worry a bit that it actually does come out of the sick leave bucket, not PTO. Particularly since there is no easy way to find out how much PTO or sick leave we have left
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  105. # [02:05] <nrc> njn: also, get well soon! :-)
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  108. # [02:15] <mihneadb> Unfocused: ping
  109. # [02:15] <mihneadb> is anybody familiar with the AddonMannager code?
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  128. # [02:42] <Unfocused> mihneadb: pong, if its quick. otherwise, might be easier to email
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  130. # [02:43] <mihneadb> Unfocused: I m confused about addonmanager's cache, I guess I could email
  131. # [02:43] <mihneadb> (if you are the right person to ask)
  132. # [02:43] <mihneadb> I'm trying to fix some tests to run concurrently and in the cache test I still get some URLs containing the hardcoded "4444" port although I changed all the static files and the test code
  133. # [02:44] <Unfocused> heh, i usually am
  134. # [02:44] <Unfocused> oh, right, i saw some bug go by about that
  135. # [02:45] <mihneadb> so TLDR version - I'm interpolating %PORT% for all static files that are requested via a path handler
  136. # [02:45] <Unfocused> yea, email might be easier - i'll probably need to find some time to dig into things for you
  137. # [02:45] <mihneadb> I /fixed/ it by removing the port part in the "check if strings are equal" part
  138. # [02:45] <mihneadb> but I'd rathe find out where this is coming from
  139. # [02:46] <mihneadb> what address can I send the email to?
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  142. # [02:46] <Unfocused> bmcbride AT mozilla.com
  143. # [02:46] <mihneadb> thanks
  144. # [02:46] <mihneadb> will do
  145. # [02:46] <Unfocused> (same as my bugmail)
  146. # [02:46] <Unfocused> :)
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  149. # [02:47] <mihneadb> aha
  150. # [02:47] <mihneadb> I know people sometimes redirect bugmail to /dev/null or something
  151. # [02:47] <mihneadb> that's why I asked :)
  152. # [02:47] <Unfocused> hehe
  153. # [02:47] <Unfocused> i wish..
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  156. # [02:49] <mihneadb> haha
  157. # [02:49] <mihneadb> thanks for your help
  158. # [02:49] <mihneadb> enjoy lunch
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  312. # [05:51] <nthomas> mattwoodrow|away: ping
  313. # [05:52] <nthomas> KWierso|Home: ping
  314. # [05:52] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: yo
  315. # [05:52] <nthomas> hi, we're ok to reopen the tree from an infra point of view. Do you want to take a look at that orange on inbound first ?
  316. # [05:55] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: looking
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  322. # [06:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94e902f5f517 - Wes Kocher - Backed out changeset fa6ef0b63025 (bug 889515) for OSX browser-chrome bustage on a CLOSED TREE
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  326. # [06:05] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: I *think* that should clear it up, but I'm willing to let that push finish up tests before reopening :)
  327. # [06:06] <KWierso|Home> in fact, lets just stay closed until philor returns in august :)
  328. # [06:06] <nthomas> hah
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  330. # [06:08] <nthomas> KWierso|Home: can I leave it your hands to reopen, or do you need to doing other things ?
  331. # [06:08] <KWierso|Home> nthomas: I'll reopen in a bit
  332. # [06:08] <KWierso|Home> good night
  333. # [06:08] <nthomas> thanks!
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  458. # [09:14] <heycam> should inbound be open now? seems like the bug mentioned in the tree status is resolved...
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  461. # [09:17] <KWierso|Home> heycam: works for me :)
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  463. # [09:18] <heycam> KWierso|Home, thanks!
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  465. # [09:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb87ff45a454 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 893500 - Don't check for SVG text context scale changes when non-display. r=longsonr
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  476. # [09:32] <NeilAway> bah, that sucks
  477. # [09:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a862c3557b27 - Mike Conley - Bug 893316 - Http.jsm doesn't listen to method option parameter. r=Mossop
  478. # [09:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8b9e399e92f - Mike Conley - Unit test for Bug 893316 - Http.jsm doesn't listen to method option parameter. r=Mossop
  479. # [09:32] <NeilAway> I download a build whose ini says it's built from changeset X and it has bug Y
  480. # [09:32] <NeilAway> I build locally from that changeset and my local build does not have bug Y
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  526. # [10:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/58fe760f66d8 - David Anderson - Implement CPOW support in MessageManager (bug 870180, r=smaug,billm).
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  531. # [10:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1b30d2fafcb - Cameron McCormack - Bug 893510 - Don't schedule reflow of non-display SVG text when a child text content frame was just created. r=jwatt
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  542. # [10:30] <MattN> I've waited many minutes for my try push… known issue?
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  546. # [10:32] <ferjm> Hi! What's the appropriate way to initialize an XPCOM component that requires a nsIDOMWindow instance to work? Should I expose an "init" function like in https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/feeds/public/nsIFeedWriter.idl#24? Or is there any way to pass the nsIDOMWindow to the component constructor?
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  550. # [10:36] <MattN> I don't see any other pushes to Try in the last two hours so I may not be the only one with the problem
  551. # [10:36] <fabrice> ferjm: what creates your component?
  552. # [10:37] <glob> MattN, probably https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893667
  553. # [10:37] <ferjm> fabrice, chrome code only
  554. # [10:37] <MattN> glob: thanks
  555. # [10:38] <ferjm> fabrice, in this case, the payment shim injected in the payment provider flow
  556. # [10:38] <fabrice> ferjm: so implementing nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer should be good. We can't send parameters to xpcom constructors
  557. # [10:38] <MattN> I guess I won't have try results when I wake up
  558. # [10:39] <ferjm> fabrice, but that doesn't require exposing the component in the global window?
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  560. # [10:40] <fabrice> ferjm: no, that's just an idl: https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/interfaces/base/nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer.idl
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  566. # [10:42] <NeilAway> ferjm: did you want the JavaScript-global-privileged-property category perhaps?
  567. # [10:43] <ferjm> fabrice, oh ok, so the "init" function will be called even if I don't expose the component as a window property via JavaScript-global-privileged-property?
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  569. # [10:43] <ferjm> NeilAway, no, I want to avoid exposing it to content
  570. # [10:43] <fabrice> ferjm: no it wont
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  572. # [10:45] <ferjm> fabrice, then if I am understanding it properly implementing nsIDOMGlobalPropertyInitializer won't work for me in this case, as I don't want to expose this component to content
  573. # [10:46] <NeilAway> ferjm: right, so that category is for a global property that is only accessible to privileged script
  574. # [10:46] <fabrice> ferjm: who is in charge of passing the window to your component?
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  576. # [10:47] <ferjm> NeilAway, oh, I misread your message. I was thinking in JavaScript-global-property … but JavaScript-global-privileged-property sounds better for this case :)
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  578. # [10:47] <NeilAway> ferjm: :-)
  579. # [10:47] <ferjm> fabrice, a chrome script injected in the payment flow
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  582. # [10:48] <ferjm> NeilAway, fabrice thanks! I'll try the JavaScript-global-privileged-property solution
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  636. # [11:31] <kanru> mrbkap: ping
  637. # [11:31] <kanru> If I pass a js object to C++ function twice, is it possible to get two different pointers?
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  655. # [11:48] <NeilAway> kanru: what you get is an xpconnect wrapper for the js object, which is a separate object, so separate lifetime rules apply, but the original object keeps a weak reference to the wrapper, so if the wrapper is still alive for other reasons then it will get reused
  656. # [11:49] <NeilAway> kanru: actually, I've run into subtle bugs on those weak references, so I'm not sure I should make that claim, because things keep changing
  657. # [11:51] <NeilAway> kanru: wait, I remember what's supposed to happen - if you use a nsIWeakReference, then that holds the wrapper alive for as long as the object is alive, but if you don't keep any sort of reference to the wrapper, then it dies
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  659. # [11:51] <kanru> NeilAway: like if the object has been added to a nsCOMArray, I could assume it will be reused
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  661. # [11:51] <NeilAway> kanru: yes, that's a strong reference, so you'll get the same object again
  662. # [11:51] <kanru> s/object/wrapper/
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  664. # [11:53] <TheOne> which bug handles the new aurora logo?
  665. # [11:53] <TheOne> bmo search doesn't show up any
  666. # [11:53] <kanru> I wish I could get the wrapper's pointer from js because it seems to generate different wrappers
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  670. # [11:54] <darktrojan> TheOne, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=840883
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  672. # [11:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/375bbf91af55 - Mike Hommey - Bug 887483 - Remove some more useless FORCE_STATIC_LIB and leftover comments from previous removal. r=mshal
  673. # [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/926141b660e5 - Mike Hommey - Bug 850576 - Statically link stlport on b2g and android, and always use a custom built stlport for that. r=ted
  674. # [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/874daff14871 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 893484 - Set second last polygon marker type before appending last one. r=jwatt
  675. # [11:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bfabee367c88 - Mike Hommey - Bug 892898 - Remove useless FORCE_USE_PIC assignment. r=gps
  676. # [11:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5c3ae19d8f6b - Mike Hommey - Bug 892904 - Remove useless includes of config.mk. r=gps
  677. # [11:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75ec39054b8a - Mike Hommey - Bug 879792 - Import the STLport source. r=ted
  678. # [11:55] <TheOne> darktrojan: thanks!
  679. # [11:57] <TheOne> hm that bug is fixed although aurora has still the old icon
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  683. # [12:01] <darktrojan> it's not landed on the aurora branch yet
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  685. # [12:02] <darktrojan> guess they're just waiting for august 5
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  688. # [12:04] <TheOne> hm, weird, Beta and Nightly is updated already but they're holding off with Aurora?
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  692. # [12:05] <gcp> I could swear android aurora has another icon already
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  697. # [12:08] <KWierso|Home> TheOne, darktrojan: looks like the update for aurora's branding landed in m-c
  698. # [12:08] <KWierso|Home> and is riding the trains?
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  700. # [12:08] <TheOne> gcp: yeah, android does but not desktop
  701. # [12:08] <darktrojan> that's what I said, KWierso
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  703. # [12:09] <PeterBocan> Hello folks, is this the right place where to ask about NPAPI Plugin development?
  704. # [12:10] <darktrojan> I guess beta was pushed to beta because it would be odd to announce a new product icon and then not have it appear for 12 weeks
  705. # [12:10] <gcp> I'd be strange for android to have it and desktop not, unless only part of te patch was landed
  706. # [12:11] <glandium> gcp: the android landing only changed the android icons. Interestingly, the old icons can still be found in some files under the mobile branding, probably unused
  707. # [12:11] <gcp> ah, time to file a bug for that then and reduce package size
  708. # [12:12] <glandium> gcp: files in the sources are not necessarily packaged either
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  713. # [12:13] <glandium> and i'll repeat what i said last week. the new nightly logo is way too bright
  714. # [12:14] <TheOne> I like it
  715. # [12:14] <gcp> it's more like an Evening
  716. # [12:15] <glandium> gcp: it's almost daylight
  717. # [12:15] <darktrojan> the aurora icon stil doesn't feature an aurora
  718. # [12:15] <ckitching> glandium: Perhaps it's expressing accurately the hour at which the final changes are made to the build? :P
  719. # [12:16] <ckitching> Namely - o-stupid-hundred hours.
  720. # [12:17] <glandium> in fact, there's a night zone that's less than a third of the surface of the planet, but the lights from the cities can be seen in the daylight zones
  721. # [12:17] <glandium> gcp: there's 13k to gain from the unused logoWordmark.png
  722. # [12:18] <glandium> the aurora logo has the same city lights problem
  723. # [12:18] <glandium> and it's too red
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  727. # [12:20] <gcp> aurora looks quite ugly on android imho
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  729. # [12:21] <gcp> brownish on my devices
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  731. # [12:21] <Ms2ger> *changed the logo
  732. # [12:21] <Ms2ger> So horribly shiny
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  757. # [12:46] <freddyb> I am getting an error when running my first xpcshell-based test (it just executes do_check_true, like suggested in the wiki)
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  759. # [12:46] <freddyb> the error is that no xpcshell.ini was found (rather unlikely, I ran it with ./mach xpcshell-test <js file>) or that my tree is not build or tests are not enabled
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  761. # [12:46] <freddyb> my tree is however build, so how do I enable test? :)
  762. # [12:47] <freddyb> built*
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  768. # [12:48] <Ms2ger> freddyb, can you put your mozconfig on pastebin.mozilla.org?
  769. # [12:48] <freddyb> it's a comm-central build btw
  770. # [12:48] <freddyb> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2634774
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  777. # [12:50] <freddyb> the docs at https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Writing_xpcshell-based_unit_tests are a bit confusing
  778. # [12:51] <freddyb> I got my test to run using make SOLOFILE="..." -C <path> check-one
  779. # [12:51] <freddyb> I'd try fixing the doc but I have really no idea what I am doing
  780. # [12:52] <awilfox> I encountered an error running `mach bootstrap` on a Mac running the newest version of Mercurial. I searched bugzilla and found no results. A one=line change to python/mozboot/mozboot/base.py fixes the issue (as seen at this gist: https://gist.github.com/CorgiDude/5999057) but I can't find any module that has mozboot so that I can file a bug against the correct module.
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  782. # [12:53] <awilfox> Assuming my patch is worth merging, which module should I use? "Build Config" looks promising, I think, but I would like to be sure.
  783. # [12:53] <Ms2ger> awilfox, Core::Build Config, I'd say
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  791. # [12:56] <Ms2ger> freddyb, looks like you do need a .ini, even if you run only one test
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  794. # [12:57] <freddyb> I think I got it working
  795. # [12:57] <freddyb> I did use mach before
  796. # [12:57] <freddyb> but mach magic is failing my, probably due to bug 863409
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  808. # [13:14] <Tomcat> dvander`home: hi dvander, i filed bug 893714, i guess this is related to your checkin today
  809. # [13:17] <freddyb> running ./obj-ff-dbg/mozilla/dist/sdk/bin/xpcshell doesn't find the libxul though. how can I specify a path to get libs from?
  810. # [13:17] <freddyb> I could do LD_PRELOAD and point it to libxul, but then it asks for libmozalloc, ...
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  816. # [13:19] <freddyb> I feel like I'm doing something wrong ;P
  817. # [13:20] <freddyb> hrm, bbl
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  840. # [13:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4871ba3bf94c - Jacek Caban - Bug 893540 - Update cubeb to recent version (fixes mingw compilation). r=padenot
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  853. # [13:55] <glandium> freddyb: use run-mozilla.sh
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  874. # [14:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/5e191a26d909 - Ed Morley - Merge latest green birch changeset and mozilla-central
  875. # [14:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b446fb61ee0e - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s)
  876. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8e88c01ceb0a - Gina Yeh - Bug 892862 - Failed to receive system message of Sco connection status changed, r=echou
  877. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e86f02d4738e - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s)
  878. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f471c8057f90 - Vicamo Yang - Bug 885280 - MobileMessage: support phone numbers with non-'+' international dialing prefix. r=gregor
  879. # [14:06] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/82e61abf9cd1 - Ben Tian - Bug 891202 - [Bluetooth][OPP cleanup] Unify obex data sending function, r=echou
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  898. # [14:20] <Yoric> Mmmh...
  899. # [14:20] <Yoric> I have a pointer that reproducibly points to 0x5a5a5a5a5a5a5a5a. That looks like a magic address. What could cause a pointer to do that?
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  902. # [14:21] <mattwoodrow> Yoric: The allocator sets memory to the value when its deleted
  903. # [14:21] <Yoric> So it's a call to |delete|?
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  906. # [14:22] <mattwoodrow> Yoric: That's what sets it, yes. If you're seeing it, then you're using it after that
  907. # [14:22] <madalynn> Hi I am raji....i am developing new extension in java for bugzilla... I developed it separately i dont knoiw how to integrate with bugzilla please anyone can help me
  908. # [14:23] <Yoric> That's what I thought.
  909. # [14:23] <Yoric> madalynn: You should go to channel #bugzilla.
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  911. # [14:23] <Ms2ger> glazou, getting old, eh :)
  912. # [14:23] <madalynn> I could nt find any step by step process there
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  914. # [14:25] <madalynn> where is the bugzilla channel i dont understand
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  918. # [14:29] <glazou> Ms2ger: :)
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  923. # [14:30] <glazou> Mozilla - as a standalone org - is ten years today
  924. # [14:30] <glazou> in just a few hours
  925. # [14:30] <till> \o/
  926. # [14:30] <smontagu> memories
  927. # [14:30] <glazou> and I have that impression it was yesterday...
  928. # [14:30] <Yoric> \o/
  929. # [14:30] <glazou> oh smontagu I asked about the yiddish title you mentioned on FB
  930. # [14:30] <Yoric> madalynn: /join #bugzilla
  931. # [14:31] <glazou> my dad never heard of it
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  934. # [14:31] * smontagu remembers coming back from vacation to half a dozen phone messages and not knowing wtf was going on
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  936. # [14:32] <smontagu> glazou: וארטאטשט און פארבעסערט?
  937. # [14:32] <glazou> smontagu: oh seriously? we all thought it was coming
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  939. # [14:32] <glazou> smontagu: yep, that one
  940. # [14:32] <smontagu> glazou: I never took the talk of it seriously, thought it was just standard "we're doomed" talk
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  942. # [14:33] <smontagu> if I had prepared better for the event I might still be there :(
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  961. # [14:41] <NeilAway> firebox: what is 0x5a5a5a5a
  962. # [14:42] <NeilAway> firebot: what is 0x5a5a5a5a
  963. # [14:42] <firebot> NeilAway: Well, 0x5a5a5a5a is jemalloc freed junk memory (cf. 0xa5a5a5a5)
  964. # [14:42] <NeilAway> Yoric: ^^^
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  966. # [14:42] <glazou> smontagu: http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2003/07/21/2991-untitled
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  968. # [14:43] <Yoric> NeilAway: Thanks.
  969. # [14:43] <Yoric> Turns out I was launching my async code from a destructor. Not a very good idea.
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  971. # [14:45] <smontagu> glazou: that refers to netscape specific code? what we used to call the commercial tree?
  972. # [14:45] <glazou> yes
  973. # [14:45] <glazou> cvs.netscape.com
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  981. # [14:49] <blassey> where did the check for updates button go in nightly?
  982. # [14:49] <edmorley> blassey: about panel
  983. # [14:50] <blassey> not in my nightly
  984. # [14:50] <blassey> I mean, that's where I expected it to be
  985. # [14:50] <blassey> which is why I was asking where it went
  986. # [14:51] <edmorley> blassey: wfm with latest nightly (or more, I get the automatic checking for update string; you only see the button if set to manual aiui)
  987. # [14:51] <glazou> same thing here
  988. # [14:51] <glazou> update button gone from about dialog
  989. # [14:51] <blassey> I've got the 7/12 nihgtly
  990. # [14:51] <blassey> which is why I'm trying manually kick it
  991. # [14:53] <Pike> blassey: if you have the "restart to update" dialog open somewhere, that's not shown
  992. # [14:53] <blassey> ahh
  993. # [14:53] <Pike> at least that's how I fell for it a few times
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  1002. # [14:59] * @ted has a 7/12 desktop build and it shows "restart to update" in the about dialog
  1003. # [15:00] <Manuela> hi guys! :) I have a question regarding clearUserPref in a browser chrome test; can anyone please help?
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  1008. # [15:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc5649624720 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 877974, part2 - fix commenting of the getTextAtOffset line boundary, r=tbsaunde
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  1010. # [15:06] <Standard9> Manuela: generally its best just to ask your question
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  1012. # [15:08] <PeterBocan> Is anybody here who could explain me all those NPPVariable(s) and NPNVariable(s) and what do they do (what do they return...) and when are called, thanks :)
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  1017. # [15:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e02367798aef - Jan Beich - Bug 885624 - Cherry-pick gtest@{r621,r629} to unbreak --enable-tests with libc++. r=bgirard
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  1025. # [15:16] <PeterBocan> I have asked that question because there is nothing on that site and Google also will not say anything more...
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  1029. # [15:18] <@ted> PeterBocan: NPAPI is generally underdocumented, and i wouldn't expect that to change anytime soon
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  1031. # [15:19] <@ted> nobody is really putting much work into evolving plugin support
  1032. # [15:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d889929c408 - Martin Stransky - Bug 888863 - Port GTK2 to GTK3 - entry combo box update. r=karlt
  1033. # [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cafd483cc3cf - Randy Lin - Bug 891722 - Media Recording - The rate of ondataavailable events spikes adnormally high after starting, stopping, and starting recording again. r=roc
  1034. # [15:19] <sheppy> The gappiness of the NPAPI docs has annoyed me for a long time, but haven't had any time to deal with it, and probably won't anytime soon.
  1035. # [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f56958fbcc5b - Geoff Lankow - Bug 891181 - Textbox-based <setting> bindings un-focus when forward slash (/) key is pressed. r=bmcbride
  1036. # [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/90b078a81eef - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 888526 - Use the profile dir instead of the bin dir for contentpref xpcshell tests. r=ted
  1037. # [15:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1990b3e75ab8 - Randy Lin - Bug 889720 - Media Recording - Implement Pause/Resume DOM API. r=roc
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  1041. # [15:20] <sheppy> "gappiness" isn't really a word, but it should be.
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  1043. # [15:21] <PeterBocan> ted: sheppy: I know, but I really dont want to dive into Netscape source- ode...
  1044. # [15:21] <PeterBocan> *source code...
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  1048. # [15:21] <@ted> PeterBocan: well, sorry, that's life :-/
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  1053. # [15:23] <PeterBocan> ted: well, yes thats life... but I think, I will have to...
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  1082. # [15:36] <PeterBocan> Is this the correct repository: http://mxr.mozilla.org/classic/source/plugin/ ?
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  1085. # [15:37] <@bz> "Regression: Mozilla-Inbound-Non-PGO - Tp5 Optimized Responsiveness - WINNT 6.1 (ix) - 425% increase"
  1086. # [15:37] <@bz> Should that be worrying?
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  1094. # [15:40] <till> PeterBocan: correct repository for what?
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  1097. # [15:41] <PeterBocan> till: repository for NP API
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  1100. # [15:43] <jcranmer|away> PeterBocan: that is, roughly speaking, source code for a never-release Netscape 5
  1101. # [15:43] * jcranmer|away is now known as jcranmer
  1102. # [15:43] <till> PeterBocan: "This is Mozilla Classic. It's a snapshot of the MozillaSource module from Oct 26, 1998"
  1103. # [15:43] * jchen|away is now known as jchen
  1104. # [15:44] <jcranmer> I have needed to look at it only once or twice, and that's to figure out some code that predates the CVS history
  1105. # [15:44] <jcranmer> so, short answer: NO
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  1115. # [15:48] <tbsaunde> n/win 20
  1116. # [15:48] <PeterBocan> I got it...
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  1129. # [15:55] <Gijs> Hmm... trying to use bzexport on windows, complains there's "no module named json" ? :s
  1130. # [15:55] <Gijs> ted: ^^ ?
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  1133. # [15:57] <Ms2ger> Gijs, how old is your python?
  1134. # [15:57] * Gijs finds bug 728117 and is sad.
  1135. # [15:57] <Gijs> Ms2ger: see above, don't think it's that.
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  1137. # [15:58] <Ms2ger> Lovely
  1138. # [15:58] <Ms2ger> Your issue is Windows, then
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  1140. # [15:59] <ewong> it's always Windows...
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  1145. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> It baffles me that anybody still develops on windows
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  1147. # [16:00] <Gijs> Ms2ger: If I'm going to be writing Windows front-end stuff, not really any other way to do that.
  1148. # [16:00] <ewong> masochism..
  1149. # [16:00] <glob> Ms2ger, apparently it's useful for fixing windows issues ;)
  1150. # [16:00] <ewong> glob++
  1151. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> Windows issues? I don't know of any windows issues :)
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  1153. # [16:02] <ewong> glob, you wouldn't happen to consider updating that Bugzilla package? it made life a little easier.. right now I'm kinda lost without it
  1154. # [16:02] <glob> ewong, sorry, but i don't have anywhere near the required time to do that :(
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  1156. # [16:02] <ewong> strawberry perl apparently has a bug on Windows.. or something like that..
  1157. # [16:02] <ewong> glob 'sok.
  1158. # [16:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/763cc1310b18 - Marco Zehe - Bug 893336 - Rename listItemCount to reflect string change, r=yzen,flod
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  1160. # [16:03] <ewong> I'm a glutton for punishment for attempting to dev Bugzilla on Windows without any sense of testing the patches.. ;P
  1161. # [16:03] <ewong> much to the displeasement of LPSolit
  1162. # [16:03] <Callek> ewong: what bugzilla package?
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  1164. # [16:03] <ewong> Callek XML::Parser:Expat
  1165. # [16:03] <glob> ewong, right; and lpsolit's right to be displeased
  1166. # [16:03] <Callek> ahhhh
  1167. # [16:03] <glob> ewong, it's foolish to submit untested patches
  1168. # [16:04] <glob> Callek, bugzilla setup for windows
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  1170. # [16:04] <Callek> glob: can we hook ewong up to a landfil instance, if that helps this case?
  1171. # [16:04] <ewong> Callek oh right.. yeah that bugzilla package that installs the whole shebang on Windows
  1172. # [16:04] * Callek admits missing context
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  1175. # [16:04] <ewong> Callek 'sok.. just missing some stuff on my Windows platform
  1176. # [16:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45391ba20ecc - Douglas Crosher - Bug 893315 - More uses of Move need renaming to mozilla::Move. r=Waldo
  1177. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9897835271b5 - Mina Almasry - Bug 877690 - Implement an API for getting CSS property values to be used in auto-completion. r=bz
  1178. # [16:05] * ewong facepalms.
  1179. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a35e309f6c07 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 893317 - Fix VTune include files. r=njn
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  1182. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a375d3c1b43 - Rick Eyre - Bug 882706 - Implement TextTrackList::GetTrackById(). r=rillian
  1183. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8ef0bada3c3a - Douglas Crosher - Bug 893314 - More uses of js_AtomToPrintableString need renaming to AtomToPrintableString. r=bhackett
  1184. # [16:05] <Callek> ewong: ahhh, running a bugzilla install off a windows platform is almost certainly a call for insanity!
  1185. # [16:05] <ewong> yeah..
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  1193. # [16:07] <@ted> Gijs: edmorley has been using bzexport on windows
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  1195. # [16:07] <@ted> he just fixed some bugs to make it suck less
  1196. # [16:08] <edmorley> Gijs: have you pulled bzexport's repo recently?
  1197. # [16:08] <edmorley> also, what python version?
  1198. # [16:08] <Gijs> edmorley: 10 minutes ago.
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  1200. # [16:09] <edmorley> also mercurial version
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  1202. # [16:09] <Gijs> But ted's user repo which was on sfink's blogpost, which showed up in google.
  1203. # [16:09] <edmorley> that's the main repo
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  1206. # [16:09] <Gijs> Python 2.7.2, hg 2.5.4
  1207. # [16:10] <Gijs> "python -m json.tool" in my console works fine.
  1208. # [16:10] <@ted> Gijs: bzexport doesn't use your system python
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  1210. # [16:10] <@ted> it uses the python that's baked into hg
  1211. # [16:10] <@ted> (they build the binaries with py2exe, i assume)
  1212. # [16:11] <Gijs> I do have a separate hg install, not the one in mozillabuild, because I needed to use a newer version than what shipped with mozillabuild at the time. I could go and update mozillabuild and take my 'own' hg out of the path to see if that helps, I guess? (is it likely to) ?
  1213. # [16:11] <edmorley> Gijs: I use the hg binary that comes with tortoisehg, is frequently updated and seems to work fine
  1214. # [16:12] <djc> ah, too bad you're not discussing this in #hg
  1215. # [16:12] <@ted> heh
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  1217. # [16:13] <edmorley> Gijs: mozillabuild's hg version is much newer now fwow
  1218. # [16:13] <edmorley> fwiw
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  1220. # [16:13] <Gijs> Right... just wondering if that'll help.
  1221. # [16:13] <Gijs> Isn't tortoisehg python-based itself?
  1222. # [16:13] <djc> it is
  1223. # [16:13] <Gijs> It probably ships a version of hg that plays nicer with python and/or has the required modules.
  1224. # [16:15] <@ted> right
  1225. # [16:15] <@ted> when you build an exe using py2exe
  1226. # [16:15] <@ted> you can specify what python modules to bake in
  1227. # [16:15] <@ted> it's probably just pulling in more modules
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  1230. # [16:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/949582d150c2 - Brian Hackett - Bug 892187 - Fix spurious uses of ExclusiveContext->asJSContext(), r=billm.
  1231. # [16:16] <AutomatedTester> ted: Cwiiis: http://slimerjs.org
  1232. # [16:17] <@ted> AutomatedTester: interesting
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  1234. # [16:17] <@ted> wish we would have merged cwiiis' headless stuff so that could actually run headless
  1235. # [16:17] <AutomatedTester> ted: agreed but this is better than nothing
  1236. # [16:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9db984a847ee - Jan de Mooij - Bug 866064 - Fix CodeLocationJump/CodeLocationLabel asserts to not use a magic value. r=nbp
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  1239. # [16:19] <@ted> AutomatedTester: indeed
  1240. # [16:19] <@ted> better than everyone using webkit for everything
  1241. # [16:19] <AutomatedTester> ted: next step is make sure Marionette works with it
  1242. # [16:19] <@ted> :)
  1243. # [16:19] <AutomatedTester> test then we can compete with GhostDriver which is webdriver for PhantomJS
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  1245. # [16:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea6175cbfc9b - Bob Clary - Bug 893617 - Add android.json manifest for Mochitest content/canvas tests, r=ted.
  1246. # [16:20] <AutomatedTester> automate all the things
  1247. # [16:20] <djc> where is that headless bug anyway? can't seem to find it now
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  1251. # [16:20] <djc> ah, got it
  1252. # [16:20] <AutomatedTester> robot*
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  1254. # [16:21] * @ted was using the offscreen branch a while ago
  1255. # [16:21] <@ted> i have a nice moz-headless-screenshot binary floating around
  1256. # [16:21] <@ted> that's horribly out of date now
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  1274. # [16:29] <@Cwiiis> ted, well, we have romaxa's ipc stuff now instead, we could use that?
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  1276. # [16:30] <@ted> that would be interesting!
  1277. # [16:30] <@ted> we'd still need a headless widget backend
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  1308. # [16:49] <evilpie> (-7 heads) first time I have seen this
  1309. # [16:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8dd428369503 - Shane Caraveo - bug 872605 add ability to update provider manifest, r=markh
  1310. # [16:50] <mjrosenb> evilpie: you've killed the hydra!
  1311. # [16:50] <freddyb> evilpie: I've read bugmail on your "weekend project" this morning. very neat..
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  1313. # [16:50] <evilpie> hehe
  1314. # [16:51] <evilpie> what I do to relax ;)
  1315. # [16:51] <freddyb> ...scary:)
  1316. # [16:52] <mjrosenb> romaxa: in your build env, what version of the cross libc do you have?
  1317. # [16:52] <mjrosenb> evilpie: what was your weekend project?
  1318. # [16:52] <evilpie> bug 886752
  1319. # [16:53] <evilpie> firebot: ping
  1320. # [16:53] <firebot> evilpie: pong
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  1328. # [16:55] <freddyb> <firebug> 886752 - Key Exchange method of SSL/TLS connections is not exposed to user
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  1331. # [16:55] <freddyb> s/bug/bot/
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  1335. # [16:58] <Gijs> edmorley, ted: installed tortoisehg, stuck that in $PATH instead, and bzexport works on my first try without further effort (well, OK, I didn't try it on a proper changeset as I'm building right now, but it got past the JSON steps) :-)
  1336. # [16:58] <Gijs> so, thanks!
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  1338. # [16:58] <edmorley> Gijs: :-)
  1339. # [16:59] <romaxa> mjrosenb: hmm which target/bug/project you reference to?
  1340. # [17:00] <romaxa> mjrosenb: probably lost context a bit
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  1342. # [17:01] <Bas> Umm.. how can we say our data is handled according to the Mozilla Employee Privacy policy when we're submitting our Passport details into Google Drive?
  1343. # [17:01] <romaxa> mjrosenb: some one of the targets has libc6 - 2.10-0maemo20+0m7
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  1345. # [17:02] <romaxa> mjrosenb: another one is 2.5.1-1eglibc27+0m5
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  1347. # [17:03] <mjrosenb> romaxa: the one where the build fails due to missing HWCAP_IDIV
  1348. # [17:03] <mjrosenb> romaxa: wow, both of those libcs sound quite old..
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  1351. # [17:04] <jorendorff> added 157 changesets with 925 changes to 782 files (-7 heads)
  1352. # [17:04] <jorendorff> "-7 heads"? what happen
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  1354. # [17:04] <romaxa> mjrosenb: yep, both of them don't have HWCAP_IDIV inside
  1355. # [17:04] <jorendorff> nobody expects the french revolution
  1356. # [17:04] <Gijs> jorendorff: a bunch of stuff merged?
  1357. # [17:05] * mjrosenb wonders how long it has been in there for...
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  1359. # [17:05] <jorendorff> oh! yeah, i know exactly what happened now
  1360. # [17:05] <romaxa> mjrosenb: that is basically this platform http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/MeeGo/
  1361. # [17:05] <mjrosenb> romaxa: I'm guessing upgrading the libc dev files is out of the question?
  1362. # [17:05] <jorendorff> well, no, it couldn't be that
  1363. # [17:05] * jorendorff shrugs
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  1367. # [17:06] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: how do I delete an article on MDN?
  1368. # [17:06] <sheppy> bsmedberg: you don't; just add the tag "junk" to it.
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  1370. # [17:06] <romaxa> mjrosenb: probably only option for upgrade is to get https://sailfishos.org/ out
  1371. # [17:06] <sheppy> We will delete it when it's possible to delete it. :)
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  1374. # [17:06] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: I'll delete the content in the meantime?
  1375. # [17:06] <romaxa> mjrosenb: but original Nokia version of meego is not upgradable
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  1379. # [17:06] <sheppy> bsmedberg: Unless there's something really dangerous about the content, just leave the content.
  1380. # [17:07] <@bsmedberg> People are being confused by it
  1381. # [17:07] <sheppy> bsmedberg: what page
  1382. # [17:07] <sheppy> ?
  1383. # [17:07] <@bsmedberg> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko/Embedding_Mozilla/FAQ/Embedding_Gecko$edit and most of the article tree that goes with it
  1384. # [17:07] <@bsmedberg> I'm just going to remove them
  1385. # [17:07] <mjrosenb> romaxa: ok, I guess I can just detect if that macro isn't defined, and just disable all of those code paths
  1386. # [17:08] <mjrosenb> romaxa: or I can hardcode its definition if it is missing
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  1388. # [17:08] <mjrosenb> but that sounds like a bad idea.
  1389. # [17:08] <sheppy> Why is it confusing?
  1390. # [17:08] <sheppy> Don't do that yet please… I need to know why you're doing it first, because we try to retain historical content like this, but marked as obsolete.
  1391. # [17:08] <sheppy> bsmedberg^
  1392. # [17:09] <sheppy> So unless it was never useful I would prefer to just mark it up as obsolete.
  1393. # [17:09] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: unless google doesn't find the obsolete content, that's really not acceptable
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  1395. # [17:10] <@bsmedberg> Most of this content is from 2002-2005 and is not useful to anyone
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  1397. # [17:10] <sheppy> bsmedberg: Well, it needs to be. We can't just delete this information if there's anyone it's useful for, such as people embedding older versions of Gecko.
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  1399. # [17:10] <romaxa> mjrosenb: it somehow worked couple of weeks ago :) probably disabling that code path should be enough
  1400. # [17:10] <sheppy> We have a policy of not deleting content except in cases such as spam or totally inappropriate material...
  1401. # [17:11] <mjrosenb> oh snap
  1402. # [17:11] <mjrosenb> there was a patch I was supposed to land...
  1403. # [17:11] <sheppy> We do have plans to prevent obsolete material from being indexed, and be really obviously warning as not to use anymore, but we do want to keep it around.
  1404. # [17:11] <@bsmedberg> That is an utterly idiotic policy.
  1405. # [17:11] <sheppy> Why?
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  1407. # [17:11] <@bsmedberg> Docs are costly. We should maintain the ones that matter, and get rid of the ones that don't.
  1408. # [17:12] <sheppy> If someone is embedding an older version of Gecko, they may need those docs.
  1409. # [17:12] <@bsmedberg> MDN is suffering horribly from having unmaintained docs, and its this kind of policy that makes it impossible to focus on the docs that actually matter.
  1410. # [17:12] <@bsmedberg> So what? Nobody *should* be doing that, for security and ecosystem reasons.
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  1412. # [17:12] <sheppy> Sigh.
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  1414. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> And even if they were, they should not be allowed to impose a cost on the Mozilla project like this.
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  1416. # [17:13] <sheppy> We like to have a historic record of older material, for reference and the like. I don't see a cost here. We don't maintain it so what's the cost?
  1417. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> That's one of the reasons we removed the embedding APIs to begin with.
  1418. # [17:13] <sheppy> The only cost is when I have to go back and un-nuke the content because someone decided that it shouldn't be there anymore. :)
  1419. # [17:13] <@bsmedberg> The cost is people find it, think that it's relevant, translate it even.
  1420. # [17:14] <sheppy> We are working on implementing site features to prevent things like that (I mean, those features have other uses as well, but will also be used to do that).
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  1424. # [17:15] <sheppy> That aside, by keeping the material there but adding an "obsolete" notice and including a big notice that embedding is obsolete and should no longer be used, with links to relevant material about why, we can help encourage people to move on.
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  1426. # [17:16] <jcranmer> it still comes up in search results, though
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  1428. # [17:16] <sheppy> jcranmer: for now; we will fix that -- but that does no good if people erase the material in the meantime.
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  1431. # [17:16] <Gijs> What's the timeline for it being fixed?
  1432. # [17:17] <sheppy> I'm trying to prevent people from doing things like this before we have the site features, which are on the drawing board, to mitigate all the concerns people have.
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  1434. # [17:17] <sheppy> Gijs: I believe before the end of the year.
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  1437. # [17:19] <sheppy> I know that this (among other things) is a problem, and it's annoying to leave it as is (trust me, I have this problem with many things), but if we can hold the status quo a little longer, we will have a good way to deal with this problem without outright losing old content.
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  1439. # [17:21] <sheppy> bsmedberg: What do we recommend people do if they currently embed Gecko?
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  1441. # [17:21] <sheppy> Or do we have a recommendation?
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  1449. # [17:24] <@bsmedberg> sheppy: we don't have a recommendation. There are a few mostly-unowned projects.
  1450. # [17:24] <@ehsan> joe: can I review graphics code?
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  1453. # [17:24] <sheppy> bsmedberg: OK.
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  1456. # [17:25] <sheppy> I've restored the content on that page for the moment, with added big banners and stuff. And I'm checking on something that might help do this even better.
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  1473. # [17:32] <mjrosenb> oh, inbound is closed
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  1476. # [17:33] <mjrosenb> well, so much for pushing anytime soon.
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  1478. # [17:35] <Ms2ger> Well, it *is* a normal working day
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  1485. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, I guess you'll need to take out mina's patch
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  1489. # [17:38] <RyanVM> sure looks that way
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  1492. # [17:38] <RyanVM> mjrosenb: we don't really need Windows builds, do we?
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  1494. # [17:38] <mjrosenb> RyanVM: I don't! :-p
  1495. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> bz, want to confirm that the inbound oranges are mina's :)
  1496. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> ?
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  1500. # [17:39] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: sure looks likely
  1501. # [17:39] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  1503. # [17:40] <RyanVM> bah, beaten by edmorley
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  1505. # [17:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/41dc3cba351f - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 9897835271b5 (bug 877690) for crashes on a CLOSED TREE
  1506. # [17:40] <Ms2ger> Yay for edmorley :)
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  1508. # [17:42] <@bz> Ms2ger: looking
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  1510. # [17:42] <@bz> hrm
  1511. # [17:42] <@bz> missing iid rev?
  1512. # [17:43] <@bz> That's the only way I can explain it....
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  1517. # [17:43] <@bz> But yes, presumably fallout from Mina's stuff
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  1520. # [17:45] <@bz> anyway
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  1536. # [17:50] <joe> ehsan: if you want
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  1548. # [17:54] <@ehsan> joe: thanks
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  1565. # [18:01] <krit> Who is familiar with nsCSSParser? Would like to know if parseFunction() should really be fixed to the (a [, b]*) use case. What about space separated values in functions? or patterns like (a b [, a b]*)?
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  1580. # [18:06] <@bsmedberg> krit: that would be bz and zwol, I think. But it sounds like you're asking a spec question; have you checked what the CSS spec says?
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  1585. # [18:07] <@bz> krit: CSS parser is probably zwol, me, dbaron
  1586. # [18:07] <krit> bsmedberg: bz: Ok, thanks
  1587. # [18:07] <@bz> krit: that said, CSS functions at the moment don't take "arguments" so much
  1588. # [18:08] <krit> bz: yes, there are just a few CSS functions
  1589. # [18:08] <@bz> And also...
  1590. # [18:08] <@bz> Which parseFunction are you looking at?
  1591. # [18:08] <@bz> Because CSSParserImpl::ParseFunction is not what you probably think it is. ;)
  1592. # [18:09] <@bz> It's only used for parsing transform functions
  1593. # [18:09] <krit> bz: well, it seems to be used for CSSTransforms, and I used it for an implementation of CSS filter functions as well
  1594. # [18:09] <krit> bz: right, since transforms just have comma separated lists, that is fine
  1595. # [18:10] <krit> bz: I wonder if it should be extended to support more (like space separation or more complex pattern), or if we shuold have new functions
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  1603. # [18:13] <krit> bz: while filter functions are not that different from CSS transforms, basic shapes are different (at least in the current spec that we do not implement in WebKit or Blink :/)
  1604. # [18:13] <krit> bz: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-shapes/#basic-shapes-from-svg-syntax
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  1608. # [18:15] <Six> bsmedberg: ping?
  1609. # [18:16] <@bsmedberg> Six: pong
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  1614. # [18:17] <Six> bsmedberg: hi, i just saw your last comment about bug 883360 (safebool)
  1615. # [18:17] <Six> bsmedberg: i dont understand why now we wouldnt need it anymore?
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  1617. # [18:17] <@bsmedberg> Six: because once we've removed the other operator, that class shouldn't auto-convert to bool at all
  1618. # [18:18] <@bsmedberg> which, if I'm reading my own comment correctly, was the desired behavior
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  1622. # [18:20] <Six> bsmedberg: yep but the goal of the ticket is to have a safe bool conversion, which is done by the safebool class
  1623. # [18:20] <Six> bsmedberg: i guess
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  1627. # [18:21] <@bsmedberg> Six: the goal changed, right? We don't *want* a bool conversion.
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  1629. # [18:21] <@bsmedberg> The ticket was filed because there was a bool conversion, but it's the "wrong one" and doesn't do what people might expect
  1630. # [18:21] <@bsmedberg> the solution is not to add a bool conversion, it's to take away the default conversion which is being confusing
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  1640. # [18:26] <Six> bsmedberg: ok, i just re-read carrefully one of your comments and i understand it now
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  1642. # [18:26] <Six> bsmedberg: so we just need to take away bool operator and operator nsMainThreadPtrHolder<T>*
  1643. # [18:27] <Six> bsmedberg: and the new ctor i added due to operator nsMainThreadPtrHolder<T>* suppression
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  1744. # [19:11] <@khuey> man gaia loads a lot of scripts
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  1762. # [19:17] <jlebar> RyanVM: Is this windows orange due to infra? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=25277798&full=1&branch=try#error0
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  1765. # [19:19] <RyanVM> jlebar: doesn't look like anything I recognize offhand
  1766. # [19:19] <jlebar> RyanVM: okay, thanks.
  1767. # [19:19] <RyanVM> haven't seen any others like it on the trees
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  1770. # [19:19] <jlebar> RyanVM: it's quite odd...
  1771. # [19:19] <jlebar> RyanVM: is that a startup hang or something?
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  1773. # [19:20] <RyanVM> looks like it to me
  1774. # [19:20] <jlebar> okay, /me will try with a known good base rev before asking khuey to compile his patch.
  1775. # [19:20] <@khuey> nooooo
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  1780. # [19:22] <jlebar> khuey: actually, I just checked, the base rev is green on try.
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  1838. # [19:51] <tba> hi all. qq i posted on #firefox on the weekend, hoping someone here might know the answer!
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  1840. # [19:52] <tba> if I try and asynchronously request the same URL twice (either using javascript, or by navigating to URL), the first request blocks the subsequent requests, so a 10 1-second requests to the same URL actually take 10 seconds, whereas 10 different URLs take 1 second
  1841. # [19:52] <tba> is this expected behaviour or should it be considered a bug? and if a bug, is it a known one? can't find anything specific in bugzilla
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  1855. # [20:01] <krit> dbaron: bz: ping
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  1859. # [20:03] <@khuey> gdb is the worst thing ever
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  1861. # [20:03] <@bz> krit: hey
  1862. # [20:04] <@bz> khuey: ever tried using 'ed'?
  1863. # [20:04] <krit> bz: CSS WG has the rule that a spec needs 2 independent implementations. Are there concerns at Mozilla if someone contributes parts of a spec implementation to Gecko that he/she was implementing in another browser engine before? In other words: Do you care more about the progress of the spec, or the having interoperable implementations even it it needs a third implementation to get a spec out of CR?
  1864. # [20:04] <sfink> ...on a core file?
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  1867. # [20:04] <@khuey> bz: no
  1868. # [20:04] <@bz> khuey: heh
  1869. # [20:04] <corey> bz: ed ftw
  1870. # [20:04] <Mook_as> debug.com!
  1871. # [20:04] <@bz> krit: I think that's a concern, yes
  1872. # [20:05] <@bz> krit: Whether it's a problem for spec advancement is considered on a case-by-case basis
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  1874. # [20:05] <@bz> krit: I'd check with dbaron on the details.
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  1876. # [20:05] <Mook_as> does webrtc have two separate implementations yet?
  1877. # [20:05] <krit> bz: ok. Thanks
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  1880. # [20:05] <@bz> Mook_as: heh
  1881. # [20:05] <@bz> krit: in practice, there are several reasons for the two-implementations rule
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  1883. # [20:06] <krit> bz: I don't want to get rid of it
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  1885. # [20:06] <@bz> krit: one is to make sure people who read the spec understand it the same way. Having the same person do both is a problem for that aspect.
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  1887. # [20:06] <@bz> krit: another reason is to make sure the spec is not too tied to a particular rendering engine's architecture.
  1888. # [20:06] <krit> bz: If I contribtue to two engines, it would need a third implementation… which is even better for the web
  1889. # [20:06] <@bz> krit: for that aspect it doesn't matter as much that it's the same person.
  1890. # [20:06] <@ted> Mook_as: microsoft is working on a WebRTC-like implementation, i suspect they'll eventually meet in the middle
  1891. # [20:06] <@bz> krit: In any case, check with dbaron.
  1892. # [20:07] <Mook_as> ted: \o/ that's good. I think. :)
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  1894. # [20:07] <@dbaron> bz, krit: I don't know that I have much to add.
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  1902. # [20:09] <krit> bz: dbaron: To a concrete example: I implemented basic shapes for WebKit/Blink with clip-path. Would you mind if I contribute code for clip-path to Gecko as well?
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  1904. # [20:09] <krit> bz: dbaron: Of course they would not be independent from the strict rules of the CSS WG, which is fine for me. It would need IE to get the spec out of CR.
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  1909. # [20:10] <krit> s/they/the WebKit and Gecko implementation/
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  1913. # [20:11] <Ms2ger> krit, you're contracting with MS too? :)
  1914. # [20:11] <krit> Ms2ger: not yet :P
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  1916. # [20:12] <krit> Ms2ger: I am confident enough that they can implement it on their own :)
  1917. # [20:12] <Ms2ger> krit, then you're writing the spec and the test suite, at least? :)
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  1919. # [20:13] <@dbaron> krit, sort of in the middle of something else right now, so I can't think about the feature closely, but seems fine to me on principle
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  1929. # [20:15] <krit> dbaron: k, thanks
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  1933. # [20:18] <Optimizer> anyone has any idea on what is causing all those vertical margin issues on buttons and labels in various websites in nightly from last few days ?
  1934. # [20:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9d9f34dac338 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 832768 - Disable test_buffered.html due to frequent timeouts.
  1935. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f60f6c301670 - James Kolb - Bug 603488 - Part 3: Fix gfxContext::mask bug. r=roc
  1936. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eeed50e8e213 - James Kolb - Bug 603488 - Part 1: Refactor nsLayoutUtils to expose imgIContainer. r=roc
  1937. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1b391784e53 - Justin Wood - Bug 893798 - Remove superfluous comment spew in build logs. r=bz
  1938. # [20:19] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/80520a16d7f1 - James Kolb - Bug 603488 - Part 2: Draw vector images using imgIContainer::Draw(). r=roc
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  1940. # [20:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ae21b9549d0 - Dão Gottwald - Bug 893424 - Replace XULBrowserWindow's broken _hostChanged logic. r=jaws
  1941. # [20:20] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f815340b1d7 - Dão Gottwald - Backed out bug 691594
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  1945. # [20:23] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a49288dc2d0 - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 856264 - Defect - if context menu visible, tapping and holding another link will not produce new context menu. r=jmathies
  1946. # [20:23] <marxin> Hello, I would like to test faulty.lib (binary packing tool), I set environment variable MOZ_ENABLE_SZIP=1, but does it also work for non Android build?
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  1948. # [20:24] <mwu> marxin: should, since it was tested on desktop linux first
  1949. # [20:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/302fb81f0729 - Marty Rosenberg - bug 858940: fix an additional case where we inspect the instruction stream without going through an iterator. r=jbramley
  1950. # [20:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e68f2d9dfbe - Bobby Holley - Bug 885668 - Removed specialized function object principal machinery from CAPS. r=bz
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  1971. # [20:35] <@khuey> is there a bug on fixing the EV flicker from the internal page thing to whatever it's supposed to be when loading URLs?
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  1974. # [20:36] <@smaug> EV flicker?
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  1976. # [20:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bf847b1a3776 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 882292 - getTextAfterOffset for line boundary on new rails, r=tbsaunde
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  1978. # [20:38] <@smaug> khuey: hey, did you land your worker CC stuff already?
  1979. # [20:38] <@khuey> smaug: no
  1980. # [20:39] <@smaug> merging problems still?
  1981. # [20:39] <@khuey> smaug: well I still need to fix the snow white issue
  1982. # [20:39] <@khuey> smaug: and I'm working on a critical b2g issue today
  1983. # [20:39] <@khuey> smaug: so ... :-/
  1984. # [20:40] <@smaug> uh
  1985. # [20:40] <@smaug> ok
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  1989. # [20:40] <@smaug> khuey: not doing snowwhite killing async in workers should be ok for now
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  1991. # [20:41] <@khuey> smaug: well I changed that but then we start leaking the worker global :-/
  1992. # [20:41] <@khuey> smaug: and at that point I stopped and went to work on this b2g leak
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  1997. # [20:43] <mjrosenb> snowwhite?
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  2018. # [20:51] <RyanVM> joe: ping
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  2021. # [20:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4ec71ab768f - Bobby Holley - Bug 889911 - Introduce xpc::SystemErrorReporter, roughly based on mozJSComponentLoader's error reporter. r=mrbkap
  2022. # [20:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e296989dd3d - Bobby Holley - Bug 889911 - Fix tests that unconditionally throw for things reported to the console. r=mrbkap
  2023. # [20:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5e55ddfc9dc3 - Bobby Holley - Bug 889911 - Switch xpcshell to SystemErrorReporter with a little bit of special magic. r=mrbkap
  2024. # [20:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6e48a408d1de - Bobby Holley - Bug 889911 - Replace mozJSLoaderErrorReporter with SystemErrorReporter and remove the former. r=mrbkap
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  2027. # [20:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bc9ec6aff994 - Terrence Cole - Bug 892287 - Simplify post barriering of TypedArray's internal pointers; r=sfink
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  2037. # [20:55] <@bsmedberg> hrm, what desktop do I want? Xfce was ok, but a lot of the normal panel that I like didn't work
  2038. # [20:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c112dc25fa8c - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 883390 - Part 1.3 - Move unrelated internal method out of navigation section. r=jimm
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  2041. # [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b11d90b294c - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 883390 - Part 1.6 - Use grid.xml to manage mouse/touch selection for urlbar.xml. r=sfoster
  2042. # [20:55] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47a9f741253c - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 883390 - Part 1.1 - Ensure that browser search engines are updated when settings are changed. r=sfoster
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  2045. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9bb67dba984 - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 883390 - Part 1 - Move autocomplete into overlay, centralize urlbar code. r=sfoster
  2046. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9434d96e85b5 - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 883390 - Part 1.2 - Ensure and test that pastes from touch cause autocomplete to show (fixes 887120). r=jimm
  2047. # [20:56] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38e84638eb6d - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 883390 - Part 2 - Add initial tests for autocomplete popup. r=jimm
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  2060. # [21:00] <joe> RyanVM: hi
  2061. # [21:00] * jdm|f00ding is now known as jdm
  2062. # [21:00] <RyanVM> joe: bug 867183 seems to have spiked significantly lately
  2063. # [21:01] <RyanVM> joe: and I'm wondering if it's related to your recent pushes
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  2065. # [21:01] <joe> huh, surprising
  2066. # [21:01] <joe> i guess it's possible
  2067. # [21:01] <RyanVM> i don't know if definitively that it's yours, but I know that it's happening a lot :P
  2068. # [21:02] <RyanVM> looks like the spike started ~Jul 10
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  2070. # [21:02] <joe> unfortunately if test_async_notification is failing it implies that any of the followups could also fail
  2071. # [21:02] <joe> er tests after that one
  2072. # [21:02] <RyanVM> joe: anyway, I need to run for a bit, but I at least wanted to bring that to your attention and I hope you or Seth can look into it soonish
  2073. # [21:02] <joe> RyanVM: thanks
  2074. # [21:02] <RyanVM> joe: because it's definitely on the rise
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  2079. # [21:03] <joe> huh, very surprising if it's either of those
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  2083. # [21:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a639cb76d4d9 - Graeme McCutcheon - Bug 893830 - implement mach uuid. r=gps DONTBUILD
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  2086. # [21:05] <jcranmer> now that's useful
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  2090. # [21:06] <joe> oh wow
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  2093. # [21:07] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: What is, bug 893830?
  2094. # [21:08] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: since I can't come up with snarky replies, yes
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  2099. # [21:10] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: :/ Well since my logs show a ton of landings, I couldn't be sure that's what you meant...
  2100. # [21:12] <Yoric> !seen dhr
  2101. # [21:12] <firebot> dhr was last seen 7 days, 13 hours, 27 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying 'Jesse: thanks again. I've added my experience to that bz.' in #firefox.
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  2103. # [21:12] <@dolske> mach: uuid
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  2106. # [21:13] * wsm updated nightly from a week ago. now IGC and CC are horrible
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  2108. # [21:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77a5ea5dc277 - Camilo Viecco - Bug 883682: Enable EV test cert only in debug builds. r=bsmith
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  2110. # [21:14] <mach> dolske: 748fd525-af6e-4f9e-a63b-e03238e3d325
  2111. # [21:14] * mach is now known as jcranmer
  2112. # [21:14] * Mook_as is amused that remembering it's called "uuidgen" on windows, linux, and osx is too hard :p
  2113. # [21:14] <paul> bz: about bug 890195, how can I force re-evaluation of mediaQueries? Apparently, a resize does it, so I guess forcing the reflow for the whole page would work. But I don't know how.
  2114. # [21:14] <jcranmer> Mook_as: no, installing uuidgen is too hard
  2115. # [21:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/082ad8b3b731 - Heather Arthur - Bug 892757 - Also listen for events with -actorId in Style Editor client; r=dcamp
  2116. # [21:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/e66abee160f3 - Gregory Szorc - Merge fx-team into mozilla-central
  2117. # [21:14] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/75a080f3f46e - Chris Manchester - Bug 884397 - Implement structured logging in Log4Moz; r=gps
  2118. # [21:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1934d7f69446 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Merge m-c to fx-team.
  2119. # [21:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5815a35c771c - Justin Lebar - Bug 893281 - Don't require a no-args constructor for elements in a JS::Vector if you call GrowByUninitialized(). r=luke
  2120. # [21:15] <@dolske> mach: botsnack
  2121. # [21:15] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: ++
  2122. # [21:15] <JosiahOne> Though a little slow. mach needs some optimization I think.
  2123. # [21:16] <Ms2ger> JosiahOne, patches welcome :)
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  2125. # [21:16] <jcranmer> JosiahOne: sorry, my sodium channels must be getting low
  2126. # [21:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eae8efb94b6f - Brian Nicholson - Bug 851373 - Have Tabs use the application context instead of the activity. r=rnewman
  2127. # [21:16] <JosiahOne> Ms2ger: I think IRC mach is closed source unfortunately.
  2128. # [21:17] <sfink> not if you have a scalpel
  2129. # [21:17] <Optimizer> mach: cid
  2130. # [21:17] <jcranmer> sfink: nah, a hair sample should be good enough
  2131. # [21:17] <sfink> oh, read-only, sure
  2132. # [21:18] <sfink> but what's the fun in that?
  2133. # [21:18] <jcranmer> you can write to it
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  2135. # [21:18] <jcranmer> it just takes about 15 years
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  2137. # [21:18] <JosiahOne> That's impressive.
  2138. # [21:18] <marxin> mwu: sorry, I was AFK. I did a build, but install folder still contains libxul.so with a standard file size
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  2140. # [21:19] <JosiahOne> Apparently mach doesn't do cids yet.
  2141. # [21:19] <rstrong> taras: how many days does it take from landing for new telemetry data to show up in the dashboard?
  2142. # [21:19] <Optimizer> no it messaged me
  2143. # [21:19] <Six> jdm: ping?
  2144. # [21:19] <jdm> Six: pong
  2145. # [21:19] <JosiahOne> Optimizer: Neat. :)
  2146. # [21:19] <Six> jdm: hi, i need a final precision on bug 883360
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  2148. # [21:20] <JosiahOne> mach build
  2149. # [21:20] <Six> jdm: should i remove nsMainPtrHandle::operator bool which has been added by bug 497003
  2150. # [21:20] * RyanVM|afk is now known as RyanVM
  2151. # [21:20] <Six> jdm: it build without it on my linux6
  2152. # [21:20] <Six> *linux64
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  2154. # [21:21] <Six> jdm: but ib this bug comments they say they had build failure without it
  2155. # [21:21] <Six> *in
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  2157. # [21:21] <jdm> huh
  2158. # [21:21] <jdm> now I'm kind of confused why that doesn't do what I expect
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  2160. # [21:21] <Six> ?
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  2164. # [21:23] <taras> rstrong: 3days min, a week before you get useful data
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  2166. # [21:24] <jdm> Six: looks like that bug implemented the thing we spent a long time discussing in 883360 :P
  2167. # [21:24] <rstrong> taras: thanks! Is there a way to get a report that essentially does a union between two or more histograms?
  2168. # [21:25] <taras> rstrong: jydoop
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  2170. # [21:25] <taras> rstrong: file a metrics ops ticket
  2171. # [21:25] <taras> to get mango telemetry access
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  2174. # [21:25] <rstrong> will do and thanks
  2175. # [21:25] <taras> rstrong: then you can run something like one of above scripts https://github.com/mozilla/jydoop/tree/master/scripts
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  2177. # [21:26] <Six> jdm: yup but ehsan said it wasn't a good idea to implement it this way no?
  2178. # [21:26] <jdm> Six: yes. we should probably bring this up.
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  2181. # [21:28] <Six> jdm: the thing is bsmedberg and ehsan were against this bool conversion operator and i had also to remove the nsMainThreadPtrHolder conversion method as it would be called instead
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  2183. # [21:28] <bholley> RyanVM: looks like I have windows linkage bustage
  2184. # [21:29] <RyanVM> i was going to blame terrence, but you're welcome to claim it
  2185. # [21:29] <jdm> Six: please leave a comment in 883360 pointing out that the new conversion operator has been added in bug 497003 and ask for some guidance
  2186. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d488b5429bc3 - David Zbarsky - Remove unneeded DOMCI_DATA. no bug
  2187. # [21:30] <RyanVM> bholley: did you want to cook up a fix quick or should I back you out?
  2188. # [21:30] <bholley> RyanVM: it's me. Back me out and I'll look at it after lunch?
  2189. # [21:30] <RyanVM> ok then
  2190. # [21:30] <bholley> RyanVM: thanks :-)
  2191. # [21:30] <Six> jdm: ok, i already said it but bsmedberg just said that my new patch wasnt relevant... :) i will specify it again
  2192. # [21:30] <@bsmedberg> jdm: what's the issue?
  2193. # [21:30] <jdm> bsmedberg: bug 497003 added the original bool coversion operator I was asking for for nsMainThreadPtrHandle
  2194. # [21:31] <jdm> which we ended up agreeing was not what we wanted
  2195. # [21:31] <@bsmedberg> Are we not all agreed that was a mistake?
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  2197. # [21:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a28ade3d4bdc - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 4 changesets (bug 889911) for Windows bustage.
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  2202. # [21:33] <Six> bsmedberg: yup but it hasn't been added by us
  2203. # [21:33] <@bsmedberg> Six: of course not...
  2204. # [21:33] <Six> bsmedberg: it has been pushed on moz-central last week, they say in bug 447003 that they can't build without it
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  2206. # [21:34] <Six> bsmedberg: so now i need to now what to do? :)
  2207. # [21:35] <Six> *know
  2208. # [21:35] <@bsmedberg> Six: bug 497003 is wrong and should be fixed
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  2210. # [21:35] <_AtilA_> I have some questions about content/media/VideoFrameContainer, and what's the purpose of VideoFrameContainer::Invalidate()... Does anyone know about this part of the code?
  2211. # [21:35] <@bsmedberg> the bool operator is ambiguous and people should need to specify a method rather than using nsMainThreadPtrHandle in a bool context
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  2217. # [21:37] <Six> bsmedberg: i agree, but what do you want me to do about it?
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  2219. # [21:37] <Ms2ger> Six, remove the operator? ;)
  2220. # [21:37] <@bsmedberg> Remove the bool operator and fix the compile errors that result...
  2221. # [21:38] <Six> bsmedberg, Ms2ger: ok i wanted to be sure that i had the right to remove it has i came from another bug validated :)
  2222. # [21:38] <Six> bsmedberg: but i didnt get any build issue on linux64
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  2226. # [21:39] <Ms2ger> Six, you've got try access? :)
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  2230. # [21:41] <Six> Ms2ger: yes, but i never use before patch is reviewed to avoid useless loads
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  2233. # [21:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e4e605d990f4 - Brad Lassey - bug 893968 - LaunchState locking isn't actually locking anything useful r=kats
  2234. # [21:42] <Ms2ger> Six, it's not useless if you can only test through try :)
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  2236. # [21:42] <nemo> lol
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  2238. # [21:43] <nemo> so. #css on freenode gets someone asking for help w/ what looks like a clean, elegant, 3 column layout
  2239. # [21:43] <sfink> Six: start using. Reviewer load is more important than try cluster load anyway. Build load is way less of a concern in the first place, and if you use trychooser to limit to a b2g build, the load is miniscule.
  2240. # [21:43] <Six> Ms2ger: i wasn't talking about that but if i push a patch this is not what is expected to fix the bug it's useless
  2241. # [21:43] <nemo> I think. oh. fun. expandable multicolumn. let's see what I can do here *Inspect*
  2242. # [21:43] <nemo> body>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>div>table(!)>tbody>tr>td>div>div
  2243. # [21:43] <Six> sfink: ok ty :)
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  2245. # [21:44] <nemo> http://www.demegy.ch/DRUPAL7/ <- the deceptively clean layout
  2246. # [21:44] <nemo> every day I am impressed w/ how well web browsers due w/ what they are up against
  2247. # [21:44] <nemo> oh. and it is quirks mode (ofc)
  2248. # [21:45] <Ms2ger> nemo, we kinda have to, don't we? :/
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  2253. # [21:48] <sfink> if only the spec allowed for truly undefined behavior here and there, and we followed through and shaved people's pets, then perhaps the world would be a better place
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  2256. # [21:50] <RyanVM> dholbert: ping
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  2259. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> sfink, like we don't have enough yaks to shave already
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  2261. # [21:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/348b2ba27515 - David Caabeiro - Bug 717379, part 1 - Implement the new ES6 math functions. r=jorendorff.
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  2263. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0711903a413e - Jason Orendorff - Fix trailing whitespace in jsobj.cpp, noted by Ms2ger in bug 886087 comment 5. no_r=me.
  2264. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26f5a13acac8 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 889628, part 1 - Merge setLvalKid with setIncOpKid. Rename it to checkAndMarkAsIncOperand. Rename setAssignmentLhsOps to checkAndMarkAsAssignmentLhs. r=Waldo.
  2265. # [21:51] <mjrosenb> bsmedberg: so, it looks like clicking on the 'update' button doesn't make the text in the form go away... if I forget that i've clicked it before, and I click it again, will it send another email to everyone?
  2266. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eaa441be57f3 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 889628, part 2 - Do not look at lhs->getOp() when selecting opcodes for destructuring assignment, except if lhs is a name and we just called BindNameToSlot.
  2267. # [21:51] <Ms2ger> jorendorff, thank you, kind sir
  2268. # [21:51] <firebot> r=Waldo.
  2269. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ffc604b74974 - David Caabeiro - Bug 717379, part 2 - Add JIT support for new ES6 Math functions, except Math.hypot(). r=jorendorff.
  2270. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b3789d1848d3 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 892561 - Inline Parser::bracketedExpr() into its only call site, in Parser::parenExpr(). r=Waldo.
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  2272. # [21:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f102b444db08 - Jason Orendorff - Bug 889628, part 3 - Don't set pn_op on PNK_DOT and PNK_ELEM nodes in assignment. r=Waldo.
  2273. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fa4fd499678c - Jason Orendorff - Bug 889628, part 4 - Remove another redundant BindNameToSlot call. r=Waldo.
  2274. # [21:52] <@bsmedberg> mjrosenb: yes, if they opted for immediate mail delivery
  2275. # [21:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a0684871506a - Jason Orendorff - Bug 889628, part 5 - Enforce ES6 rules about assigning to eval or arguments in destructuring assignment. r=Waldo.
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  2279. # [21:52] <sfink> an important question to ask before joining a project or company: "How hairy are your yaks?"
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  2281. # [21:53] <sfink> very hairy => they allow too much technical debt to accrue
  2282. # [21:53] <sfink> bald => everybody is too distracted to do the real work
  2283. # [21:53] <mjrosenb> bsmedberg: great... i'm pretty sure I actually clicked on it 3 or 4 times before I caught on that the text wasn't going away
  2284. # [21:53] <Ms2ger> sfink, don't ask about b2g yaks...
  2285. # [21:54] <mjrosenb> sfink: but if you're shaving yaks, hopefully, you have been hired to throw out the cruft + make sure it stays away
  2286. # [21:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aa59555856a1 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out 3 changesets (bug 603488) for Windows reftest orange.
  2287. # [21:54] <mjrosenb> Ms2ger: I want a gecko-yak!
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  2295. # [21:55] <dholbert> RyanVM, pong
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  2297. # [21:55] <RyanVM> dholbert: was hoping to gauge your opinion on something before backing out, but I already did now
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  2299. # [21:55] <dholbert> RyanVM, cool. (sorry for delayed pong)
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  2304. # [21:57] <dholbert> RyanVM, nice @ unexpected passes :)
  2305. # [21:57] <dholbert> I think those are legit -- I'll follow up on the bug
  2306. # [21:57] <RyanVM> interesting that they were win-d2d only
  2307. # [21:58] <RyanVM> Win Ru was green
  2308. # [21:58] <dholbert> RyanVM, looks like the failure annotation is "fails-if(!azureQuartz&&!azureSkia)"
  2309. # [21:58] <RyanVM> for the one
  2310. # [21:58] <RyanVM> the other two were fails()
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  2312. # [21:58] <dholbert> ah, ok
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  2315. # [21:59] <evilpie> Enn: hey! I would like do discuss how the focus stuff is supposed to work
  2316. # [21:59] <RyanVM> dholbert: nice, we hit them on android too
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  2320. # [22:00] <RyanVM> dholbert: am I pretty shocked this never apparently went through Try
  2321. # [22:00] <RyanVM> seems like a rather non-trivial amount of work
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  2323. # [22:00] <dholbert> RyanVM, I think it's a new contributor
  2324. # [22:00] <dholbert> or newish
  2325. # [22:01] <RyanVM> I see lots of regulars participating in that bug ;)
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  2329. # [22:02] <RyanVM> dholbert: not to mention the old "Hey, you should run this through Try. File a bug for commit access and I'll vouch for you"
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  2332. # [22:03] <dholbert> RyanVM, yeah, someone should've said that; you were just quicker on the checkin than anyone was on the Try-suggestion, I guess
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  2334. # [22:03] <dholbert> (Looks like he added checkin-needed in the last ~12 hours)
  2335. # [22:03] <dholbert> anyway
  2336. # [22:03] <dholbert> thanks for landing & thanks for the cleanup :)
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  2338. # [22:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b65f5117b3eb - Jared Wein - Bug 888563 - Update Aurora and Nightly identity icons and colors. r=MattN
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  2342. # [22:04] <mohammed> Can any one help with some hints on what is causing the following failure [Assertion failure: refCnt == detail::DEAD, at ../../../../dist/include/mozilla/RefPtr.h:65]
  2343. # [22:05] <RyanVM> dholbert: I personally wish things like "this should go through Try" and "this needs a better commit message" (oh yeah, take a look at the attachments to see the cleanup I did on those) were a more standard part of the review process
  2344. # [22:05] <dholbert> yeah
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  2355. # [22:10] <dholbert> mohammed, that's probably not enough context for anyone to chime in
  2356. # [22:10] <dholbert> mohammed, if you can get a backtrace of the assertion, then that would tell you what part of code is having its refpointer go dead, and that would give people an idea of whether they can intelligently chime in
  2357. # [22:11] <mohammed> dholbert: It will try to dig in deeper and ask about something more specific
  2358. # [22:11] <mohammed> thanks dholbert
  2359. # [22:11] <dholbert> mohammed, thanks!
  2360. # [22:11] <dholbert> RyanVM, do you know what's causing the apparently-innocuous "ERROR - Return code: 1" in tons of TBPL logs
  2361. # [22:11] <dholbert> ?
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  2364. # [22:11] <dholbert> (not sure if the error is new, or if the fact that the TBPL log-summarizer highlights it is new)
  2365. # [22:12] <RyanVM> edmorley's been playing with the log parser lately, so probably fallout from that
  2366. # [22:12] <dholbert> k
  2367. # [22:12] <RyanVM> feel free to file a tbpl bug on it if you want
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  2370. # [22:13] <fabrice|afk> mayhemer: about but 835379, can you check if my patch (minus the dump()s) looks fine to you?
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  2373. # [22:14] <mayhemer> fabrice|afk: give me a minute
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  2375. # [22:14] <@smaug> imelven: uh, sorry. I'll try to look at it tomorrow. Recovering from the trip to Toronto today.
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  2377. # [22:15] <@bz> s/to/from/? ;)
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  2379. # [22:15] <@smaug> er
  2380. # [22:15] <@smaug> right
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  2382. # [22:15] <@smaug> bz: well, the trip was from Helsinki to Toronto and back
  2383. # [22:15] <@bz> smaug: sure
  2384. # [22:16] <@smaug> English is so odd :)
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  2387. # [22:16] <@bz> smaug: What you said is actually correct, just can be creatively misinterpreted. ;)
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  2389. # [22:16] <mayhemer> fabrice: I don't know this code, so hard to say
  2390. # [22:16] <fabrice> mayhemer: ok, no worries
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  2399. # [22:20] <johns> bsmedberg: ping
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  2405. # [22:21] <@bsmedberg> johns: meeting
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  2408. # [22:23] <@bz> hmm
  2409. # [22:23] <@bz> pushing to try is hanging....
  2410. # [22:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/91718a30c559 - Andrew Wilcox - Bug 893723 - Ignore trailing '+' in Mercurial version string; r=gps
  2411. # [22:25] <Hixie> anyone know if arun or sicking are around?
  2412. # [22:26] <@khuey> sicking is at lunch
  2413. # [22:26] <Hixie> k, thanks
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  2417. # [22:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6348be07ed02 - Max Li - Bug 894000 - Fix dumbmake dependencies for accessible. r=gps
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  2421. # [22:31] <djvj> jmaher: ping
  2422. # [22:31] <@bz> Is anyone else managing to push to try?
  2423. # [22:31] <stully> bz: having trouble here too.
  2424. # [22:32] <jmaher> djvj: pong
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  2427. # [22:32] * @bz takes it to #it
  2428. # [22:32] <djvj> jmaher: do you know how to get SUT agent onto a device?
  2429. # [22:32] <Zap> sorry to bother, but is this channel for addon development too?
  2430. # [22:32] <jmaher> djvj: adb install
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  2432. # [22:33] <@bz> Zap: it's a pretty general channel
  2433. # [22:33] <Six> sworkman: ping?
  2434. # [22:33] <jmaher> djvj: do you not have adb access to the device?
  2435. # [22:33] <@bz> Zap: now whether someone is around who knows the subject area....
  2436. # [22:33] <djvj> jmaher: checking
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  2438. # [22:33] <jmaher> djvj: you probably want a more recent sutagent, I have one here: http://people.mozilla.org/~jmaher/sutagent/sutAgentAndroid.1.18.apk
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  2440. # [22:33] <djvj> jmaher: no, it's an unbroken nexus 4
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  2443. # [22:34] <djvj> jmaher: do I need to jailbreak it before I can use developer options on it?
  2444. # [22:34] <Six> bz, stully: do you have hangs on tbpl web interface too?
  2445. # [22:34] <jmaher> djvj: no, you can just turn on debugging
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  2447. # [22:34] <jmaher> I think you have to tap system info 7 times
  2448. # [22:35] <stully> Six: nope
  2449. # [22:35] <djvj> jmaher: srsly? that's the way to get the secret debugging screen?
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  2452. # [22:35] <jmaher> yeah, http://www.androidcentral.com/how-enable-developer-settings-android-42
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  2455. # [22:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f847593613de - Nicolas B. Pierron - Bug 863398 - Optimize B2G's GC settings for responsiveness and benchmarks. r=gwagner f=jlebar
  2456. # [22:35] <jmaher> it is 'build number' inside of 'about phone'
  2457. # [22:35] <Six> stully: ok cause i cant get my build status... hangs on "Loading 9%"...
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  2460. # [22:36] <Zap> ok thanks, anyone knows how can I use this library from an addon? http://mohayonao.github.io/timbre.js/ Because I tried including it in the widget with contentScriptFile but it doesn't load the file
  2461. # [22:36] <stully> Six: oh, when I go to a specifc build page, yeah, I'm hanging at 9% too.
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  2463. # [22:36] <djvj> jmaher: awesome, it works
  2464. # [22:36] <jmaher> djvj: cool
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  2467. # [22:38] <bkero> gps: ping
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  2469. # [22:39] <gps> bkero: pong
  2470. # [22:39] <Six> stully: ok thanks for the confirmation ;)
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  2474. # [22:40] <bkero> gps: any luck with the pushlog revlog stuff? Had two instances today of try hanging
  2475. # [22:40] <bkero> Including right now.
  2476. # [22:40] <gps> bkero: I haven't had time to look at it yet. I'm busy :/
  2477. # [22:41] <bkero> Okay
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  2481. # [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6127dd6a6038 - George Wright - Bug 891123 - Apply upstream changeset r8599 which fixes the infinite recursion issue r=mettwoodrow
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  2486. # [22:48] <Six> tbpl is back :)
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  2494. # [22:52] <ehsan_> bz: ping
  2495. # [22:53] <tba> qq if anyone can help - if I try and asynchronously request the same URL twice (either using javascript, or by navigating to URL), the first request blocks the subsequent requests, so a 10 1-second requests to the same URL actually take 10 seconds, whereas 10 different URLs take 1 second - expected behaviour or bug? can't find it in bugzilla
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  2498. # [22:54] <tba> (in firefox btw)
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  2502. # [22:56] <@bz> ehsan_: ack
  2503. # [22:56] <Six> tba: i guess it's because when you send 10 requests to differents url, it's done in parallel
  2504. # [22:56] <@bz> tba: expected behavior and bug
  2505. # [22:56] <@bz> tba: both. ;)
  2506. # [22:56] <Six> tba: but if it's the same url it is launched in a queue
  2507. # [22:56] <ehsan_> bz: if I have an object which holds on to a callback wrapper generated by the webidl compiler, do I need to trace it?
  2508. # [22:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ef79950f0ab - Brian Hackett - Bug 887075 - Use original function when compiling lazy scripts, r=luke.
  2509. # [22:56] <@bz> Six: yes, but why? ;)
  2510. # [22:56] <tba> thanks lol...
  2511. # [22:57] <tba> still not sure if its a bug or not :P
  2512. # [22:57] <Six> bz: it's a non sense to ask 10 times the same thing :)
  2513. # [22:57] <@bz> tba: the cache does not allow both reads and writes
  2514. # [22:57] <@bz> Six: happens all the time for images!
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  2516. # [22:57] <@bz> tba: so while one load is happening and writing to the cache others have to wait on the cache to be free
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  2518. # [22:57] <@bz> ehsan_: something that inherits from dom::CallbackObject?
  2519. # [22:57] <tba> bz: what about where you need to use the same URL multiple times? we were testing the non-blocking ability of our app, and thought the app was broken only to find out it was firefox (and chrome and IE!)
  2520. # [22:57] <ehsan_> bz: yes
  2521. # [22:57] <@bz> ehsan_: you just refcount it and cc it
  2522. # [22:58] <@bz> ehsan_: it handles the JS bits for you
  2523. # [22:58] <tba> any way around it, other than to use different URLs?
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  2525. # [22:58] <ehsan_> bz: so I should traverse/unlink it?
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  2527. # [22:58] <@bz> ehsan_: yes
  2528. # [22:58] <ehsan_> I see, thanks
  2529. # [22:58] <@bz> ehsan_: absolutely. Like any other refcounted thing. ;)
  2530. # [22:58] <ehsan_> cool
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  2533. # [22:58] <@bz> tba: use a query parameter that your server ignores?
  2534. # [22:58] * sheppy-afk is now known as sheppy
  2535. # [22:58] <@bz> tba: (I mean, that's a special case of "different urls")
  2536. # [22:59] <Six> bz: when does it happen to ask many time the same image? (real question :) )
  2537. # [22:59] <ialagenchev> is there a way to install an add-on that will be used by the temp profile that mochitest-browser tests use?
  2538. # [22:59] <@bz> Six: Consider a page that has a list and images for the list bullets
  2539. # [22:59] <tba> bz: that is one option we might use, the more important thing is that the app didn't block, we can use workarounds elsewhere so it should be ok
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  2542. # [22:59] <@bz> Six: or a blog with social media buttons on the posts
  2543. # [22:59] <Six> bz: i see your example right here on my webirc page ;)
  2544. # [23:00] <tba> but it still feels like there should be a way to force it on a request - is this typical behaviour for most browsers? i haven't had the chance to test, but apparently safari doesn't have the same issue
  2545. # [23:00] <@bz> Six: ;)
  2546. # [23:00] <mbrubeck> ialagenchev: There is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/runtests.py#196
  2547. # [23:00] * jmaher is now known as jmaher|afk
  2548. # [23:00] <@bz> tba: Like I said, the Gecko behavior is due to the cache being buggy
  2549. # [23:00] <@bz> tba: we're working on fixing it. ;)
  2550. # [23:00] <Six> bz: but why don't we have a single cache for one element used many times?
  2551. # [23:00] <tba> bz: thanks :) will workaround it for now
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  2554. # [23:02] <tba> bz: re the bullets thing, that is using the file from cache for the subsequent requests (making them appear to complete at the same time) - but this logic doesn't work if the response doesn't cache
  2555. # [23:02] <tba> (and is a pain if you try to load multiple tabs with the same URL - perhaps it could be per-tab instead?)
  2556. # [23:03] <ialagenchev> mbrubeck: so those are passed as cmd line params after the mochitest-browser parameter to mach?
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  2559. # [23:04] <mbrubeck> ialagenchev: It looks like mach does not (yet) support that param. You'll need to invoke runtest.py manually
  2560. # [23:04] <mbrubeck> d'oh
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  2563. # [23:05] <ialagenchev1> mbrubeck: is that something as straight forward as it sounds, or is there something I need to be aware about?
  2564. # [23:05] <ialagenchev1> mbrubeck: i have no idea what mach does underneath when it invokes mochitests
  2565. # [23:05] <mbrubeck> I think you might need to mess about with running python out of the objdir's virtualenv these days... someone like gps would know better than I.
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  2567. # [23:06] <mbrubeck> alternately you could add support to the mach command in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/mochitest/mach_commands.py#206
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  2569. # [23:06] <gps> mach invokes the mochitest python code natively. if mach doesn't support a feature, please add it instead of invoking runtests.py manually
  2570. # [23:07] <gps> runtests.py is extremely low-level and you are likely to get things wrong
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  2572. # [23:07] <ialagenchev1> gps: alright. thanks for the info. I might actually try to figure that out at some point.
  2573. # [23:09] <ialagenchev1> having ability to add addons is useful. for example I want to run dom inspector when running mochitests
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  2579. # [23:11] <mihneadb> rstrong: hey :) Any status updates on bug 889183?
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  2582. # [23:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/54e0ea66cf09 - Steve Fink - No bug. Minor comment tweaks. DONTBUILD.
  2583. # [23:13] <nrc> bsmedberg: ping
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  2585. # [23:14] <rstrong> mihneadb: not since the last update. I think I'll need to run the tests with your patch and check which ones it makes sense to run parallel since many of the tests run the app.
  2586. # [23:14] <@bsmedberg> nrc: pong
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  2589. # [23:14] <mihneadb> rstrong: ok. I'm finishing up the work on the mozapps/extensions ones and I was curious about this one because it is somehow related
  2590. # [23:14] <mihneadb> thanks :)
  2591. # [23:15] <nrc> bsmedberg: hi, I'm implementing OMTC on WIndows and getting crashes when using system dialog boxes (browse for file, print, etc.). Do you know of any issues we have with this kind of thing in a multi-threaded environment?
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  2595. # [23:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2a9ef042a6d0 - Shu-yu Guo - Bug 893679 - Insert type barrier for ParallelGetPropertyIC if the observed set doesn't contain undefined. (r=bhackett)
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  2601. # [23:16] <@bsmedberg> nrc: that seems like a very general question. Did you debug the crash at all?
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  2603. # [23:16] <@bsmedberg> nrc: also, many dialogs spin nested event loops, so you should make sure that your code is safe when used with nested loops
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  2605. # [23:17] <nrc> bsmedberg: yes, but I don't get anything in Mozilla code, it crashes in windows rpc dlls, and its just windows stuff on the stack. I haven't managed to get much useful info from debugging.
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  2607. # [23:18] <@bsmedberg> nrc: which thread is crashing?
  2608. # [23:18] <nrc> bsmedberg: yeah, its kind of general, just asking in case you know of it happening before really?
  2609. # [23:18] <@bsmedberg> "windows rpc dlls" covers a lot of ground, still, including remote COM
  2610. # [23:18] <nrc> er s/?/.
  2611. # [23:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6d739868bd90 - Jared Wein - Bug 887515 - Replace multiple tab closing prompt with a menuitem to restore multiple tabs. r=ttaubert
  2612. # [23:19] <@bsmedberg> I have much experience with nested event loops causing crashes, but not enough details to provide a specific answer.
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  2614. # [23:19] <nrc> bsmedberg: how should I identify 'which thread'?
  2615. # [23:19] <@bsmedberg> well, the crash is either happening on the main thread (thread 0) or the OMTC thread (which you hopefully know) or some other thread
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  2618. # [23:19] <@bsmedberg> VS or windbg will show you all the threads when you hit the crash...
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  2621. # [23:20] <nrc> bsmedberg: not the main thread, VS says 'ntdll.dll thread;
  2622. # [23:20] <@bsmedberg> you really need to know whether this is the compositor thread or something else
  2623. # [23:21] <@bsmedberg> what is the main thread doing at the time?
  2624. # [23:21] <shu> bsmedberg: what's the markup used for the status update page?
  2625. # [23:21] <nrc> just trying to find out which is the compositor thread
  2626. # [23:21] <@bsmedberg> shu: markdown which falls back to plaintext in case of a parsing error
  2627. # [23:21] <shu> bsmedberg: okay, thanks
  2628. # [23:22] <nrc> bsmedberg: main thread in also in Windows dll land, via d3d11.dll an eventually some graphics calls
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  2630. # [23:22] <nrc> which looks suspicious
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  2633. # [23:22] <@bsmedberg> indeed
  2634. # [23:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e33505d7b796 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 892607 - Start pivot searches from outside the ignored subtree. r=surkov
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  2636. # [23:24] <nrc> bsmedberg: I'll investigate further and check the nested event loops thing. Thanks for your help!
  2637. # [23:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/75465ea1cfb6 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 840916 - Back out e7d3b0866dd9 from bug 779527 as it is no longer needed. r=mbrubeck
  2638. # [23:26] <mihneadb> rstrong: should I r? you for the patch in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889182 ?
  2639. # [23:26] <mihneadb> rstrong: or Mossop / Unfocused
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  2642. # [23:27] <rstrong> mihneadb: you should ask Mossop if he or Unfocused should review it.
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  2645. # [23:27] <mihneadb> rstrong: ok, thanks
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  2648. # [23:29] <johns> bsmedberg: ping?
  2649. # [23:29] <@bsmedberg> johns: pong
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  2654. # [23:30] <johns> bsmedberg: you should be in #plugins! I'm looking at this bug to make "playPreview" JS plugins (e.g. shumway) able to behave more like real plugins, and am wondering if we should just be having the plugin tag behave directly like an iframe in the case of a JS-plugin instead of using the XBL binding and all this handling gunk in browser-plugins.js
  2655. # [23:30] <johns> bsmedberg: Do you know much about this and/or have an opinion?
  2656. # [23:31] <yury> johns: yes
  2657. # [23:31] <yury> :)
  2658. # [23:31] <johns> yury: yes to which? :-P
  2659. # [23:31] <johns> yury: the iframe thing?
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  2661. # [23:31] <yury> iframe
  2662. # [23:31] <@bsmedberg> johns: if the JS plugin is going to completely implement the plugin, then yes that's exactly what we should do
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  2667. # [23:31] <@bsmedberg> johns: if OTOH it's going to be a click-to-play first frame preview, then I'm not exactly sure
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  2670. # [23:32] <@bsmedberg> johns: we'd at least need to expose to the plugin JS an API for "play me now", or overlay the play button on top of the iframe
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  2674. # [23:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8d0087957a1d - Mina Almasry - Bug 713564 - Add an API to declare a stylesheet obsolete. r=bz
  2675. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/15f404e6da96 - Wei Wu - Bug 893348 - Update the default value of 'GVN' option in jsshell's usage. r=nbp
  2676. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7beb410b544 - Richard Marti - Bug 855998 - Use Aero styling for hover and selected items in UI. r=dao, r=jaws, ui-r=shorlander
  2677. # [23:33] <johns> bsmedberg / yury: That would work, but require shumway/pdf.js changes for the new API. Is that something that is undesirable?
  2678. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f12e7c34c3e4 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 893904 - Remove 2 unused variables from MIR.cpp. r=bhackett
  2679. # [23:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0cedd434dddb - Mina Almasry - Bug 877690 - Implement an API for getting CSS property values to be used in auto-completion. r=bz
  2680. # [23:33] <@bsmedberg> johns: I think API changes are ok
  2681. # [23:34] <yury> johns: it's okay for shumway, currently pdf.js is using it too
  2682. # [23:34] <johns> bsmedberg: Can you see any potential downsides to using the object tag's magical iframe-mode for this over XBL content? It would remove a ton of code from browser-plugins.js and be simpler, but it might make some things harder
  2683. # [23:34] * jammink|afk is now known as jammink
  2684. # [23:34] <johns> bsmedberg: This would also mean that <applet> and <embed> tags could enter that iframe mode, but they're just objects in disguise anyway
  2685. # [23:34] <@bsmedberg> johns: they frames will need to communicate
  2686. # [23:34] <nbp> RyanVM: thanks for pushing it :)
  2687. # [23:34] <@bsmedberg> to implement ExternalInterface in shumway, for instance
  2688. # [23:35] <@bsmedberg> johns: Java implemented in JS, here we come!
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  2690. # [23:35] <RyanVM> nbp: np :)
  2691. # [23:35] <johns> bsmedberg: Just add some |for (i < 100000)| loops and spin the event loop :-P
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  2693. # [23:36] <johns> bsmedberg: Well the JS "plugin" would just see the DOM as if it were loaded purposefully in an <object data="pdfjs.html"> tag, and could set whatever properties it wanted on the DOM element
  2694. # [23:37] <@bsmedberg-away> johns: ok, I wasn't sure about the cross-originness of these things
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  2696. # [23:37] <Six> is it lunch break in #it? :)
  2697. # [23:37] <johns> bsmedberg: The JS-plugin would have chrome powers either way
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  2700. # [23:38] <johns> yury: How complex is shumway's browser interaction? Am I going to be creating a lot of unnecessary busywork if I go about rejiggering parts of playPreivew?
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  2706. # [23:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f3cfb3b2751d - Brian Nicholson - Bug 876765 - Part 2: Give buttons a focusable state in AwesomeScreen. r=lucasr
  2707. # [23:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2d3f5418ae89 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 876765 - Part 4: Fix search suggestion opt-in prompt focus behavior. r=lucsar
  2708. # [23:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f6d0e525f96 - Brian Nicholson - Bug 876765 - Part 1: Factor out search view into SearchEngineRow. r=lucasr
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  2710. # [23:41] <yury> johns: not sure what will be changed, but all we need in shumway is iframe: reference to host element and frame window
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  2712. # [23:42] <yury> we don't really care about other XUL stuff in playPreview
  2713. # [23:42] <rstrong> mihneadb: I have [include:xpcshell_updater.ini] in a xpcshell.ini file that is followed by skip-if = os == 'win'
  2714. # [23:42] <yury> johns: code is at https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/blob/master/extension/firefox/components/FlashStreamConverter.js
  2715. # [23:43] <johns> yury: When in playPreview mode, does shumway draw the "click here to play" stuff or does FF?
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  2717. # [23:43] <johns> yury: This would make it such that there was no XBL binding, so if shumway wanted to be a first-frame preview it'd need to show its own "click here to play real flash" thing
  2718. # [23:43] <rstrong> It no longer skips the include statement. This is with your parallelize patch and I thought it worked previously though I haven't backed out your patch to verify
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  2720. # [23:44] <mihneadb> rstrong: sorry, I don't understand
  2721. # [23:44] <rstrong> mihneadb: I'll double check to make sure it worked before and post to the bug if it did
  2722. # [23:44] <taras> gerv: btw, i went to clean up the 3 rules on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Code_Review and discovered they are already very nice, thanks!
  2723. # [23:44] <mihneadb> rstrong: ok
  2724. # [23:44] <yury> johns: if shumway decides it can handle swf it draws everything (in iframe), otherwise fallbacks to FF
  2725. # [23:45] <gerv> taras: You are welcome :-)
  2726. # [23:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a42817c9d5d - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 893364: in asm.js mode, correctly compute ranges for add and sub;
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  2728. # [23:45] <gerv> taras: format based on http://www.gerv.net/hacking/how-to-ask-good-questions/ and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=etiquette.html .
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  2730. # [23:46] <yury> johns: ... falls back to original CTP. User can choose to fall back to plugin
  2731. # [23:46] <johns> yury: But we don't do any "first frame preview" CTP stuff currently with shumway?
  2732. # [23:46] <nbp> I thought we had a filter to prevent prushing patches which do not have a r=…
  2733. # [23:47] <mbrubeck> no, r= is not enforced
  2734. # [23:47] <mbrubeck> so if you've ever writter "r=me" or "r=bustage" or whatever, you are a cargo cultist. :)
  2735. # [23:47] <yury> johns: no at the moment, first frame preview is as complex as rendering all frames
  2736. # [23:48] <mbrubeck> Here's what's actually enforced: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Committing_Rules_and_Responsibilities#Commit_message_restrictions
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  2738. # [23:49] <yury> johns: very often, to display something in AS3 on first frame, tons of ActoinScript must be executed
  2739. # [23:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21154eef33ac - Benjamin Bouvier - Bug 893368: in asm.js, correctly compute range for truncated Math.abs calls; r=nbp
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  2743. # [23:50] <jhammel> (fwiw /me likes r=bustage for consistency)
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  2745. # [23:51] <awilfox> I'm having a strange build error on mac os x
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  2749. # [23:51] <awilfox> Fwiw i am on a tablet because my so is in hospital so i am just trying to distract myself by fixing some bugs
  2750. # [23:52] <awilfox> I'm getting an error pretty early on in libs
  2751. # [23:52] <awilfox> I'll gist it
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  2754. # [23:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/476a4bbbfdb2 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 890722 - IonMonkey: implement JSOP_SETRVAL and JSOP_RETRVAL, r=jandem
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  2756. # [23:55] <awilfox> https://gist.github.com/CorgiDude/6003830
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  2758. # [23:56] <awilfox> Not sure what would cause that, i dont even see a mention of sgetc anywhere in the code base except in some weird nspr thing, not even close to base libs
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  2760. # [23:57] <rstrong> mihneadb: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=887054#c18
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  2762. # [23:58] <dholbert> awilfox, braindead suggestion: clobber? (or is this already a clobber build?)
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  2764. # [23:58] <awilfox> dnolbert, this is a fresh checkout. I did try to clobber but it didnt help
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  2768. # [23:59] <awilfox> dholbert* stupid tablet
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