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  8. # [00:02] <dholbert> shawn_jan, that's probably a question for tanvi, but she doesn't seem to be on. cviecco might have some thoughts though
  9. # [00:02] <guestish> shawn_jan, have you tried to disable mixed content stuff in about:config
  10. # [00:02] <dholbert> guestish, I think he wants it to work in his users' browsers, not just his own. :)
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  12. # [00:03] <dholbert> shawn_jan, (my understanding of your question is: "our app is served over HTTPS, and it has embedded iframes which may be HTTP or HTTPS, and the HTTP ones don't work anymore. What's the best practice to make them work?" Is that correct?)
  13. # [00:04] <shawn_jan> yep! that is correct
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  15. # [00:04] <dholbert> shawn_jan, your best bet may be to serve the app as HTTP instead of HTTPS, depending on how secure you need the app to be
  16. # [00:05] <dholbert> shawn_jan, (I'm assuming it's impossible for you to force all of your iframes to be HTTPS)
  17. # [00:05] <shawn_jan> yep, since the user can enter any site they want
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  20. # [00:06] <shawn_jan> so yeah, right now we believe that our options are either serving our app on a separate app, or put all of our users sites through a https proxy
  21. # [00:07] <dholbert> shawn_jan, you could serve your app via an add-on, too
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  25. # [00:07] <shawn_jan> eh, but then we would have to consider making an add-on for every browser
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  50. # [00:18] <glandium> wlach: ping?
  51. # [00:18] <wlach> glandium: pong
  52. # [00:18] <glandium> wlach: hey
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  54. # [00:19] <glandium> wlach: would you mind running the MOZ_LINKER_EXTRACT test for me?
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  57. # [00:20] <wlach> glandium: nope, I can only run it against the galaxy nexus (the lg g2x is down) but you should get some comparative results
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  60. # [00:21] <glandium> wlach: btw, is one of eideticker-tested devices single core?
  61. # [00:21] <wlach> glandium: will this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896019 impact the results?
  62. # [00:21] <wlach> glandium: I believe both the g2x and the galaxy nexus are dual core
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  64. # [00:21] <wlach> glandium: i.e. do I need to fix that bug in order for you to get useful information
  65. # [00:22] <glandium> wlach: i think it would be good to track a single core device
  66. # [00:22] <wlach> glandium: do you know of one with hdmi out?
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  71. # [00:22] <glandium> wlach: results would be interesting without that bug fixed
  72. # [00:23] <wlach> glandium: ok, let me get on that then
  73. # [00:23] <wlach> glandium: I was planning to fix that bug early next week
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  77. # [00:24] <glandium> wlach: mmmmm all i can think of is the beagleboard
  78. # [00:24] <glandium> wlach: awesome, thanks
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  96. # [00:36] <wlach> glandium: I am running your experiment with startup-abouthome-dirty, which launches firefox once with a fresh profile, kills it after 5 seconds or so, then does a capture of a second launch
  97. # [00:36] <glandium> wlach: that's perfect
  98. # [00:36] <glandium> as long as you pass MOZ_LINKER_EXTRACT=1 to both :)
  99. # [00:37] <@dbaron> mmm, *so* close to getting nsCSSFrameConstructor under 12000 lines
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  102. # [00:37] <@dbaron> (though only by moving 550 lines of it to a new file, but that does make things clearer)
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  105. # [00:38] <wchen> you can delete random comments
  106. # [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/641e812ba1ad - Steve Fink - Bug 887420 - Do not read off the end of the transfer map, r=Waldo
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  118. # [00:45] <wlach> glandium: so here's what I'm getting in terms of results over 4 runs: [2.2333333333333334, 2.283333333333333, 2.1666666666666665, 2.5]. Not appreciably different from what we see here afaict http://eideticker.wrla.ch/#/samsung-gn/startup-abouthome-dirty/timetostableframe
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  121. # [00:46] <glandium> wlach: less noise, maybe
  122. # [00:46] <glandium> wlach: can you check you do have files in /data/data/org.mozilla.fennec/cache ?
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  124. # [00:47] <wlach> glandium: sure
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  128. # [00:48] <wlach> glandium: here's what I see http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2657291
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  132. # [00:51] <glandium> wlach: oh wait, that's an about:home test, right? it doesn't do much with gecko, then
  133. # [00:51] <wlach> glandium: oh, wait, duh
  134. # [00:51] <glandium> so no difference is not totally unexpected
  135. # [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fcd125af4881 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 895231 - Make sure the Components shim is consistent with the real Components. r=bholley
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  137. # [00:52] <wlach> glandium: right. let me see about the nytimes test
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  139. # [00:53] <wlach> glandium: ok, nytimes-load preinitializes the profile in the same way, but times page load. let's try it
  140. # [00:54] <wlach> (will take a few more mins)
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  142. # [00:54] <jgilbert> jgriffin: do you know why ceder doesn't have android debug tests anymore?
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  144. # [00:55] <jgilbert> ah, nvm, forgot showall=1 :)
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  148. # [00:58] <jgriffin> jgilbert: :)
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  162. # [01:04] <wlach> glandium: really hard to tell the difference with nytimes-load, still. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2657342
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  164. # [01:04] <wlach> glandium: I think part of the problem is that page load is so dominated by issues other than start up. nytimes-load-poststartup (where we wait until the browser has started before loading the page) is almost as bad
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  167. # [01:05] <glandium> wlach: do you have the various values from telemetry?
  168. # [01:05] <wlach> glandium: values from telemetry?
  169. # [01:05] <glandium> wlach: in about:telemetry, under simple measurements
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  171. # [01:06] <wlach> glandium: I'm accessing that device remotely, so can't easily get at that unless you can tell me how to access it from the android filesystem level
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  181. # [01:10] <glandium> wlach: you have adb access?
  182. # [01:10] <wlach> glandium: sut access, which is pretty similar
  183. # [01:10] <wlach> glandium: did you want that info per run?
  184. # [01:10] <glandium> wlach: yeah, that would be useful
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  188. # [01:11] <wlach> glandium: ok, if you can tell me where to get that info, I could add the capability to eideticker to dump it somehow after a test run
  189. # [01:11] <wlach> glandium: (this would have to wait until next week though)
  190. # [01:12] <glandium> wlach: i don't think you can get that outside of about:telemetry without changing fennec or installing an addon (that doesn't exist yet) :(
  191. # [01:12] <wlach> glandium: sounds like some bugs need to be filed :)
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  193. # [01:13] <glandium> a trick could be to change the telemetry server url, and force a telemetry ping
  194. # [01:13] <glandium> and have a fake server that gets the data
  195. # [01:13] <wlach> glandium: I think it would be great to have this info on the eideticker dashboard
  196. # [01:13] <wlach> glandium: in the same way that we now have information on network traffic, and profiling data
  197. # [01:13] <glandium> sounds like a whole more work than a simple addon, but an addon also influences startup :-/
  198. # [01:14] <wlach> I feel like this should go into the core
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  201. # [01:16] <glandium> wlach: we could add something that sends the values to logcat if some env variable is there ; or always do it
  202. # [01:16] <wlach> glandium: that could work
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  210. # [01:19] <wlach> glandium: ok, I should run. but let's continue discussing/working on this next week, if you think it'd be useful
  211. # [01:20] <glandium> wlach: sure ; have a nice week end
  212. # [01:20] <wlach> glandium: you too!
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  222. # [01:33] <jcranmer> ehsan: do you also want to add std::unique_ptr/mozilla::UniquePtr?
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  225. # [01:38] <Waldo> certes
  226. # [01:38] <@ehsan> jcranmer: no
  227. # [01:38] <Waldo> ...wait, what?
  228. # [01:38] <Waldo> why not?
  229. # [01:38] <@ehsan> I mean, I do
  230. # [01:38] <@ehsan> but I probably won't have enough time
  231. # [01:38] <jcranmer> one question
  232. # [01:38] <Waldo> ah, the perennial excuse :-)
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  234. # [01:38] <@ehsan> contributing stuff to MFBT is... time consuming ;)
  235. # [01:38] <jcranmer> should we add move/forward as std::move/std::forward
  236. # [01:38] <jcranmer> or mozilla::Move/mozilla::Forward?
  237. # [01:39] <@ehsan> mozilla::
  238. # [01:39] <@ehsan> like we have done with other things
  239. # [01:39] <Waldo> mozilla::Move exists, just needs finagling
  240. # [01:39] <@ehsan> it exists?
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  242. # [01:39] <Waldo> mfbt/Move.h
  243. # [01:39] <Waldo> not with rval references, but with a wrapper class
  244. # [01:39] <@ehsan> woa
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  246. # [01:39] <@ehsan> yeah
  247. # [01:39] <Waldo> as of about two days ago
  248. # [01:39] <@ehsan> ok
  249. # [01:39] <jcranmer> that needs to be replaced with proper rvalue refs
  250. # [01:39] <@ehsan> so I'll probably get rid of Move.h
  251. # [01:40] <@ehsan> and rewrite mozilla::Move
  252. # [01:40] <@ehsan> Waldo: where should I put these?
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  256. # [01:40] <@ehsan> shoot, it's almost 8pm here
  257. # [01:40] <@ehsan> on a Friday night
  258. # [01:40] <Waldo> ehsan: some isolated header that's easily killed off when we have the std:: equivalents, seems to me
  259. # [01:40] <Waldo> I thought there was <move>, ergo Move.h
  260. # [01:40] <@ehsan> Waldo: hehe, well, sure, what should I call it?
  261. # [01:40] <Waldo> but I may be wrong
  262. # [01:40] <jcranmer> ehsan: the reason I'm asking is because I'm wondering if we should focus on making things like std::
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  264. # [01:41] <@ehsan> I think they're in <utility>?
  265. # [01:41] <jcranmer> so that we can more easily replace them with the real ones
  266. # [01:41] <@ehsan> jcranmer: that _is_ my personal preference really, but
  267. # [01:41] <Waldo> maybe just stick to Move.h?
  268. # [01:41] <@ehsan> 1. doing that is hardish
  269. # [01:41] <@ehsan> 2. it violates the MFBT style
  270. # [01:41] <@ehsan> 3. it violates the standard (iirc)
  271. # [01:41] <@ehsan> Waldo: there is also std::forward
  272. # [01:42] * dzbarsky1 is now known as dzbarsky
  273. # [01:42] <@ehsan> and a couple of others which I'm forgetting now
  274. # [01:42] <jcranmer> ehsan: std::forward requires variadic templates, IIRC
  275. # [01:42] <@ehsan> I want to put them all in the same header
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  277. # [01:42] <@ehsan> jcranmer: oh it does?
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  279. # [01:42] <@ehsan> maybe
  280. # [01:42] <Waldo> ehsan: forward is move-y, isn't it? Move.h already has Swap in it, for lack of a better place
  281. # [01:42] <@ehsan> I need to look into it more closely
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  283. # [01:42] <@ehsan> Waldo: fine by me
  284. # [01:42] <Waldo> blue
  285. # [01:43] <jcranmer> ehsan: well, one of the variant
  286. # [01:43] <jcranmer> s
  287. # [01:43] <@ehsan> guys, I really need to leave
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  289. # [01:43] <@ehsan> and pretend I have a life ;)
  290. # [01:43] <@ehsan> sorry!
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  293. # [01:44] <@ehsan> jcranmer++
  294. # [01:44] <@ehsan> alright, I'm out of here
  295. # [01:44] <@ehsan> have a good weekend!
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  311. # [01:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/755f8ba7da63 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 896028 - Add a standard Makefile variable for mochitest-metro files [r=gps]
  312. # [01:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed1a14f6ef85 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 895962 - Dismiss the find bar when another app bar appears [r=rsilveira]
  313. # [01:58] <robcee> any sheriffs around who can unfreeze fx-team?
  314. # [01:58] <robcee> orange has been cleared
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  316. # [01:58] <mbrubeck> robcee: okay
  317. # [01:59] <robcee> thanks
  318. # [01:59] <robcee> !
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  321. # [02:00] <mbrubeck> done
  322. # [02:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e11fd10615c7 - Edwin Flores - Bug 889699 - Make gstreamer backend return more accurate results for canPlayType() r=alessandro.d
  323. # [02:01] <mbrubeck> robcee: If you'd like super tree-opening-and-closing powers, contact edmorley or comment in bug 758886
  324. # [02:01] <robcee> awesome thank you
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  326. # [02:03] <gps> hg pull https://hg.mozilla.org/try
  327. # [02:03] <gps> pulling from https://hg.mozilla.org/try
  328. # [02:03] <gps> searching for changes
  329. # [02:03] <gps> abort: HTTP Error 413: Request Entity Too Large
  330. # [02:03] <gps> well that is unexpected!
  331. # [02:03] <dholbert> gps, why do you want to pull from try?
  332. # [02:03] <mihneadb> gps: you bork'd HTTP
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  335. # [02:04] <gps> dholbert: I wanted to look into multi-head issues
  336. # [02:04] <dholbert> ah. looks like you found one!
  337. # [02:04] <mbrubeck> sfink: Android jsreftest orange on your inbound push; not sure if it's your fault or not.
  338. # [02:04] <BenWa> pull from ssh instead?
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  340. # [02:04] <dholbert> BenWa++
  341. # [02:05] <gps> BenWa: that works!
  342. # [02:05] <BenWa> syntax error near '++', missing end of statement ';'
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  370. # [02:23] <Optimizer> oh . he's away
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  578. # [05:21] <sankha93> I have 2 patches in my queue, how do I push them both to try?
  579. # [05:25] <heycam> sankha93, visit http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ to construct an appropriate try commit message, create a new patch with that commit message like `hg qnew -m "try: -b ……"`; then hg push -f ssh://your@username@hg.mozilla.org/try/
  580. # [05:25] <sankha93> heycam: I did like that, but it psuhed the top most patch to try https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=111d8d06072d
  581. # [05:26] <heycam> sankha93, the other patch is actually there, but you must not have changed it
  582. # [05:26] <heycam> if you look at https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/1f4ec31485b7 you can see the parent changeset is your other patch
  583. # [05:26] <heycam> tbpl only shows new changesets that appear when you push
  584. # [05:27] <sankha93> heycam: oh, ok! I got confused in that
  585. # [05:27] <heycam> me too, the first time :)
  586. # [05:27] <sankha93> thanks! :)
  587. # [05:27] <heycam> np
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  619. # [06:09] <@dbaron> bz, so if I give you this series of code-moving patches, would you like me to generate interdiffs showing the diffs from the - section to the + section for the big moved chunks, or would you prefer to do that yourself?
  620. # [06:09] <@dbaron> bz, or would you prefer I give the review to somebody else?
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  622. # [06:10] <jld> dbaron: FWIW, I had a one-liner to approximate that in a previous life -- uniq'ed the lines after the [-+] and looked for odd numbers.
  623. # [06:10] <@dbaron> jld, there are some "meaningful" diffs in this one, though
  624. # [06:10] <jld> Though that was more for my own sanity-check purposes rather than review.
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  632. # [06:18] <heycam> dbaron, since you said "I'll wait to look more closely until I see an answer to comment 2" in bug 895182 did you still want to review that patch, or are you happy just to leave mine?
  633. # [06:19] <heycam> (or you can do a patch review review if you like ;))
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  635. # [06:22] <@dbaron> heycam, I'm fine with yours
  636. # [06:22] <@dbaron> heycam, though, did you check that the error reporting strings were used with the correct macros?
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  638. # [06:23] <@dbaron> heycam, e.g., some of the macros except the string to have a param for a token in it, some don't
  639. # [06:23] <heycam> dbaron, I didn't check that, but I know what you mean (REPORT_UNEXPECTED_TOKEN needs a $1$s or whatever in it)
  640. # [06:23] <@dbaron> heycam, that's one of the things I think more people get wrong than right in that code
  641. # [06:24] <heycam> dbaron, looks like he's got them right
  642. # [06:24] <@dbaron> heycam, and the one other thing is looking for any necessary UngetToken calls before any necessary SkipUntil calls
  643. # [06:24] <@dbaron> heycam, and perhaps also checking that any necessary SkipUntil calls are there
  644. # [06:24] <@dbaron> heycam, those are other common pitfalls
  645. # [06:24] <heycam> dbaron, it might be nice to be able to suppress the generic "Error in parsing property value " message if you report a more specific error in the parsing function
  646. # [06:25] <heycam> dbaron, ok. I did check for SkipUntil, although forgot to check for UngetToken (and that's one I know I've got wrong in some of my patches)
  647. # [06:25] <@dbaron> heycam, maybe... they get presentedin a single message, though
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  650. # [06:26] <heycam> dbaron, ok I don't think there are any places where UngetToken is needed
  651. # [06:26] <@dbaron> heycam, sounds reasonable, not uncommon
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  654. # [06:27] <@dbaron> maybe I can yet get nsCSSFrameConstructor under 11000 lines
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  670. # [06:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8e995398c00a - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 891238. Don't resume reading from a paused connection if we still have plenty of data cached. This could save power. r=cpearce
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  672. # [06:42] <ewong> how do I find out what mozillabuild version I have installed?
  673. # [06:42] <ewong> oh.. nvm
  674. # [06:42] <ewong> cat VERSION
  675. # [06:42] <KWierso|Home> ewong: VERSION
  676. # [06:43] <ewong> KWierso|Home: thanks!
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  678. # [06:44] <jld> ...so what is the difference between checkin? and checkin-needed?
  679. # [06:44] <jld> That is, `checkin?` and `checkin-needed`. Yay syntax.
  680. # [06:44] <@bz> The latter is easier for RyanVM to deal with?
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  686. # [06:49] <@dbaron> bz, btw, I just pulled patch 3 from the series I gave you for review?, but a new one should be up shortly
  687. # [06:50] <@dbaron> bz, I found another 230 lines to move
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  695. # [06:58] <@bz> dbaron: ok
  696. # [06:58] <@bz> dbaron: I won't get to this stuff until Monday....
  697. # [06:58] <@dbaron> bz, ok, that's fine
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  699. # [06:58] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: Good. ;)
  700. # [06:59] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, did you see my Q above about "interdiffs"
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  702. # [06:59] <@dbaron> [2013-07-19 21:12:47] <dbaron> bz, so if I give you this series of code-moving patches, would you like me to generate interdiffs showing the diffs from the - section to the + section for the big moved chunks, or would you prefer to do that yourself?
  703. # [06:59] <@dbaron> [2013-07-19 21:13:00] <dbaron> bz, or would you prefer I give the review to somebody else?
  704. # [06:59] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: mm
  705. # [06:59] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: if it's easy for you to generate the interdiffs, great
  706. # [07:00] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, it's easy to generate (pull chunks of patch out in editor, use 'cut -b2-' to remove the first column, and diff), but harder to describe exactly what's in those diffs
  707. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: If you have someone else you'd trust to review this, I'd be fine with it too
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  709. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: since I assume that this is all code motion without behavior changes so far?
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  711. # [07:00] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, yeah
  712. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: fair
  713. # [07:00] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, pretty much, except for getting to a different object
  714. # [07:00] <@bz_sleep> dbaron: so if heycam wants to do it, say, I'm totally fine with that
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  716. # [07:00] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, ok
  717. # [07:01] * @bz_sleep really needs to sleep now, though
  718. # [07:01] <@dbaron> bz_sleep, g'night
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  880. # [11:00] <jabbar> i wanna read xml local file with NetUtil.jsm but NetUtil.readInputStreamToString() return me string not xml.any body hav no idea?
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  894. # [11:11] <ewong> in the latest mozilla-build, makensis.exe is missing
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  905. # [11:29] <ewong> oh.. I use makensisu
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  938. # [12:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/9a44b2d7257c - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ec2-348 - a=blocklist-update
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  947. # [12:23] <mmargoliono> I got this message when trying to build on linux 32bit. /usr/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Memory exhausted. Any idea on how to resolve that?
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  949. # [12:24] <NeilAway> try installing gold, if you're not already using it
  950. # [12:25] <mmargoliono> how do I check whether I have it?
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  952. # [12:26] <NeilAway> I don't know, it probably depends on your distro
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  955. # [12:26] <NeilAway> I can't even remember how I installed it
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  961. # [12:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eaabf1f668ff - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ec2-308 - a=blocklist-update
  962. # [12:32] <mmargoliono> NeilAway, THanks, I just installed it and let see if it helps
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  967. # [12:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9af6265e9884 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-linux64-ec2-397 - a=hsts-update
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  972. # [12:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9c18b3b78bc7 - Jacek Caban - Bug 883004 - GCC bustage fix
  973. # [12:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/68bcfde4e82a - Edgar Chen - Bug 866619 - Part 2: Fix marionette tests for voice registration state. r=allstars.chh
  974. # [12:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/260b5acd1940 - Edgar Chen - Bug 866619 - Part 1: Wrong state mapping for NETWORK_CREG_STATE_SEARCHING. r=allstars.chh
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  983. # [12:50] <mmargoliono> NeilAway, It linked nicely. Thanks
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  985. # [12:51] <NeilAway> mmargoliono: np
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  1025. # [14:19] <bogo10> hei guys ... is there a limit on the number of socket connections one can make through this platform?
  1026. # [14:19] <bogo10> I mean, how many concurrent connections can there be ?
  1027. # [14:19] <bogo10> I'm trying to do something similar to bittorrent ... and I'd like to know (without actually testing it) how many other nodes/PCs/clients can connect to the same node in order to and ask for stuff from it
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  1029. # [14:24] <tbsaunde> bogo10: other than those imposed by the OS I'd think not, but you're probably beter off asking work hours PDT time or maybe in #necko
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  1047. # [14:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9497f8c1a115 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 895135. Avoid normalizing gradients to a smaller interval than 0..1. r=roc
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  1054. # [15:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/db5e3bb3205d - Paolo Amadini - Bug 891324 - Make nsIXULRuntime accessible using Services.appinfo in xpcshell tests. r=gavin
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  1184. # [18:29] <Anupkumar> I am new to mozilla and want to start bug fixing
  1185. # [18:29] <Anupkumar> Can anyone guide me as a mentor
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  1187. # [18:30] <Archaeopteryx> Anupkumar: please join us in #introduction
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  1189. # [18:30] <Anupkumar> ok
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  1198. # [18:35] <Anupkumar> Archaeopteryx: Sir no one is there in that channel
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  1249. # [19:34] <Six> gw280: ping?
  1250. # [19:36] <Six> dholbert: ping?
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  1252. # [19:38] <dholbert> Six, pong but mostly afk
  1253. # [19:38] <mbrubeck> tn++
  1254. # [19:38] <mbrubeck> for working on bug 837242
  1255. # [19:39] <mbrubeck> the metrofox team salutes you: o7
  1256. # [19:39] <tn> mbrubeck, anybody test the patch? i've not tried it other than try server
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  1259. # [19:40] <mbrubeck> tn: I'll give a try sometime in the next few days, and see if it lets us remove the workarounds in metro chrome
  1260. # [19:40] <tn> mbrubeck, that would be very useful for me. let me know good or bad what you see
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  1263. # [19:43] <Six> dholbert: ok let me know when you're available later, don't want to bother you ;)
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  1332. # [20:52] <Optimizer> I am trying to do ./mach bootstrap from a Macbook Pro, but it says Permission Denied, even though I am sudo su'ed
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  1340. # [20:58] <mbrubeck> Is there any more context (e.g. a specific command or file that has permission denied?)
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  1351. # [21:07] <Optimizer> mbrubeck: nope, the terminal just says that
  1352. # [21:07] <Optimizer> "./mach : Permission Denied"
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  1354. # [21:08] <Optimizer> the pwd is "/Users/username/Documents/fx-team"
  1355. # [21:08] <Six> do you have execution right set for ./mach?
  1356. # [21:09] <Six> what gives a ls -l ./mach?
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  1358. # [21:10] <grobinson> Where's the most up-to-date documentation on developing Firefox Add-ons?
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  1360. # [21:10] <Six> Optimizer:?
  1361. # [21:10] <Optimizer> let me check
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  1363. # [21:11] <Optimizer> -rw--r--r--
  1364. # [21:11] <Optimizer> err. -rw-r--r--
  1365. # [21:11] <Optimizer> so no.
  1366. # [21:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b960146cc1ed - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 4: Move restyle management code from nsCSSFrameConstructor to RestyleManager. r=heycam
  1367. # [21:12] <Six> well maybe a chmod +x ./mach will help :)
  1368. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a65da0faed0 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 1: Move RestyleTracker and OverflowChangedTracker out of nested namespace mozilla::css (which shouldn't exist) into namespace mozilla. r=heycam
  1369. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48769eacc0b8 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 3: Remove forward declaration of struct that hasn't been in this class since changeset e0df6dfdaaca (Bug 479655 part 3). r=heycam
  1370. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/108208f9f817 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 5: Expose UndisplayedNode list from nsFrameManager. r=heycam
  1371. # [21:12] <Six> if it doesn't have execution rights you can't execute it ;)
  1372. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4afe8edaedd0 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 8: Add setter for RestyleManager::mInStyleRefresh rather than using friend. r=heycam (within review comments for patch 4)
  1373. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5baba863a18 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 9: Move RecomputePosition to a more logical place in the .cpp file, near other hint handling implementations. No review.
  1374. # [21:12] <Optimizer> Six: thanks, that worked
  1375. # [21:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a1c86c802e6c - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 7: Remove unused aFrameManager parameters to some functions. r=heycam
  1376. # [21:13] <Optimizer> shouldn't that be by default ?
  1377. # [21:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/73d414945f59 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 2: Add a RestyleManager class. r=heycam
  1378. # [21:13] <Optimizer> I am pretty new to mac.
  1379. # [21:13] <Six> Optimizer: you're welcome :)
  1380. # [21:13] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f7f2619fbcd9 - L. David Baron - Bug 896138 patch 6: Move restyle management code from nsFrameManager to RestyleManager. r=heycam
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  1382. # [21:14] <Six> Optimizer: i can't remember the first time i tried to use it... but some CVS don't manage file rights, i don't know if hg does
  1383. # [21:16] <Optimizer> mach automatically detects macport. nice!
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  1385. # [21:17] <mbrubeck> mach is listed with executable permissions on https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/
  1386. # [21:17] <mbrubeck> but I've had trouble myself with Mercurial's tracking of permissions
  1387. # [21:17] <Optimizer> maybe its because I copied the fx-team folder from my windows machine ?
  1388. # [21:17] <mbrubeck> yeah, that'll do it
  1389. # [21:18] <mbrubeck> I think Mercurial's permission setting is broken or disabled on Windows in particular
  1390. # [21:18] <Six> this is just a listing on the hg server, it doesn't say that your hg client will be able to keep thoses rights
  1391. # [21:18] <Optimizer> nah, its fine for me on windows
  1392. # [21:18] <mbrubeck> heh
  1393. # [21:18] <mbrubeck> Probably just wasn't preserved in the copy, then.
  1394. # [21:19] <Optimizer> likely
  1395. # [21:19] <Six> well mercurial is supposed to keep the executable bit flag so maybe it comes from your copy as win/nix rights a totally differents
  1396. # [21:20] <Six> s/a/are/
  1397. # [21:21] <Optimizer> so by defauly, ./mach bootstrap will not install optimizers like ccache or gold linker ?
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  1401. # [21:26] <Six> nope i guess bootstrap is used to install required dependencies not specific "feature" stuff
  1402. # [21:26] <Optimizer> okies
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  1407. # [21:29] <jcranmer> arguably, mach should install gold on x86-32
  1408. # [21:29] <jcranmer> since I don't think we actually compile with bfd on 32-bit machines
  1409. # [21:30] <Mano> Sigh, I file a bug on converting livemarks from an xpcom component to a JSM, and someone asks if "Do we really still need livemarks?"
  1410. # [21:30] * NeilAway sighs
  1411. # [21:30] <Mano> I think I'm going to start filing bugs as confidential. sigh.
  1412. # [21:31] <Optimizer> 'mp-clang-3.2' for 'clang' failer: The specified group 'clang' does not exist
  1413. # [21:31] <Optimizer> while running ./mach bootstrap
  1414. # [21:31] <NeilAway> xpconnect is actually working against me, for once
  1415. # [21:32] <jcranmer> I get the feeling that xpconnect is slowly being killed off
  1416. # [21:32] <Optimizer> anyone knows why it is failing there ?/
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  1418. # [21:35] <Mano> NeilAway: justice at last! ;)
  1419. # [21:36] <Six> optimizer: take a look at: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites
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  1422. # [21:38] <Optimizer> Six: but bootstrap should do all the prerequisite stuff, right ?
  1423. # [21:38] <Six> optimizer: yes but it is said in the doc that if you have troubles with it you should look at this doc ;)
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  1425. # [21:40] <NeilAway> Mano: I was trying to be clever and pass an XBL binding as a callback, but the caller is JS, and tries to pass a JS object as an argument, and because of stuff, it gets passed as a JS object but what I actually wanted was for xpconnect to get in may way :-(
  1426. # [21:40] <NeilAway> *my
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  1429. # [21:42] <Six> optimizer: feel free to ask if you need help :)
  1430. # [21:42] <Mano> NeilAway: i faced something similar a week ago.
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  1432. # [21:42] <Optimizer> i am trying to install clang separately
  1433. # [21:42] <Mano> NeilAway: instanceof SomeInterface doesn't work if xpconnect didn't get in your way
  1434. # [21:43] <Mano> well, quite the opposite but related
  1435. # [21:43] <Mano> but it's terrible that you get different semantics
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  1446. # [22:07] <NeilAway> Mano: no, that's exactly the sort of thing I was running into
  1447. # [22:07] <Optimizer> Six: so it is failing while doing "port select --set clang mp-clang-3.2"
  1448. # [22:07] <NeilAway> Mano: I wanted an xpconnect wrapped object but all I got was an actual js object
  1449. # [22:08] <Optimizer> even when i manually installed clang-2.9 (but vlang --version tells me version is 4.2)
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  1457. # [22:18] <Six> optimizer: i'm not able to help you more sorry... i don't use mac osx...
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  1459. # [22:18] <Six> optimizer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=878607 it looks like it's a recent known bug
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  1461. # [22:19] <Optimizer> ah, clang-3.2 is also there..
  1462. # [22:19] <Optimizer> thanks Six
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  1464. # [22:20] <Six> optimizer: do you have a fresh version of mozilla-central? has this bug has been fixed 3 days ago
  1465. # [22:20] <Six> s/has/as/
  1466. # [22:20] <Optimizer> I have the latest version of fx-team
  1467. # [22:20] <Optimizer> which is I think newer that 3 days old m-c
  1468. # [22:21] <Six> it's weird then...
  1469. # [22:21] <Optimizer> anyways, using brew as package manager worked
  1470. # [22:21] <Optimizer> the issue is with MacPorts only
  1471. # [22:21] <Six> ok
  1472. # [22:21] <Six> so everything is fine for you now?
  1473. # [22:22] <Optimizer> yup
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  1475. # [22:22] <Optimizer> ready to build
  1476. # [22:22] <Six> ok great :) happy to have been able to help you :)
  1477. # [22:22] <Optimizer> thanks for the patience :)
  1478. # [22:23] <Six> np i'm watching a movie :p
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  1539. # [23:37] <mjrosenb> I just ran a directory that has crashes in it about 80 times, and saw nothing.
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