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18. # [00:12] <@smaug> evilpie: just something you may want to test, at least manually, is animated images
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25. # [00:17] <grobinson> dholbert: ping
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32. # [00:21] <dholbert> grobinson, pong
33. # [00:21] <dholbert> grobinson, geekboy told me to be on the lookout for a review request from you :)
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37. # [00:23] <grobinson> dholbert: indeed; just wanted to make sure you were the right person
38. # [00:23] <grobinson> dholbert: ah, i'll just post the comment and you can redirect it :)
39. # [00:23] <dholbert> grobinson, sounds good
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43. # [00:27] <NeilAway> how does one write an xpcshell test?
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47. # [00:30] <jdm> fn run_test() { do_check_true(true); }
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49. # [00:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0fe49015e35d - Bobby Holley - Bug 870043 - Disable the watchdog on b2g. r=mrbkap
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53. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c18c63d81b1 - Bobby Holley - Bug 870043 - Watchdog tests. r=mrbkap
54. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f13ae245c88 - Bobby Holley - Bug 870043 - Factor the watchdog machinery into a helper class. r=mrbkap
55. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c53f4a66b059 - Bobby Holley - Bug 870043 - Add a way to simulate the JSRuntime activity callback from xpcshell. r=mrbkap
56. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6064e8e0439b - Bobby Holley - Bug 870043 - Add a script-accessible statistics for various watchdog events. r=mrbkap
57. # [00:31] <mccr8> woof woof
58. # [00:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/be80ef1cacc2 - Bobby Holley - Bug 870043 - Add support for scripted operation callbacks in XPCShell. r=mrbkap
59. # [00:31] <bholley> mccr8: :-)
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62. # [00:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1061bb130aec - Terrence Cole - Bug 897574 - Fix GGC opt build failure; r=sfink
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65. # [00:35] <bholley> jimb: ping
66. # [00:37] <jlebar> I'm trying to install the 32-bit libgl1-mesa-dev package on my x64 ubuntu machine. I thought apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 would do the trick, but I don't see libGL.so in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu, as promised by http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/libgl1-mesa-dev/filelist
67. # [00:37] <jlebar> What gives?
68. # [00:37] <jld> jlebar: `dpkg -L`?
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70. # [00:38] <jlebar> jld $ dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-dev:i386
71. # [00:38] <jlebar> dpkg-query: package 'libgl1-mesa-dev' is not installed
72. # [00:38] <jlebar> jld: maybe dpkg does not understand multilib thingies
73. # [00:38] <jld> jlebar: It should?
74. # [00:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04bde6c5fb16 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 896292: Mark widget/gtk2 as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS. r=karlt r=gps
75. # [00:39] <jld> jlebar: I'm assuming i386 is in /var/lib/dpkg/arch
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77. # [00:40] <jlebar> jld: Huh...I must have uninstalled it as I flailed about with apt-get. It's there now. And libGL.so is there now. And the build still doesn't see it.
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79. # [00:40] <jlebar> which means that it's not looking in the right library path, I guess.
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81. # [00:41] <jld> jlebar: Also, I'm a little surprised that the 32- and 64-bit versions didn't try to uninstall each other -- dev packages combined with multiarch have caused me suffering in the past.
82. # [00:42] <jlebar> jld: that may have been what happened; I may no longer be able to build firefox on this machine.
83. # [00:42] <jld> jlebar: Especially when I was trying to build the b2g emulator, which apparently needs both widths of GL .
84. # [00:42] <jlebar> which would be so awesome.
85. # [00:42] <jlebar> jld: oh, is that it?
86. # [00:42] <jlebar> jld: that's what I'm trying to do.
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88. # [00:42] <jld> jlebar: I think? I haven't tried in a while.
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90. # [00:43] <jld> jlebar: I dimly recall having to switch back and forth and restart the build multiple times.
91. # [00:43] <jlebar> wow
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93. # [00:43] <jlebar> That is totally f'ed up
94. # [00:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/51ef625ce331 - Richard Newman - Bug 895931 - Follow up: avoid long overflow. r=trivial, a=bajaj
95. # [00:44] <jlebar> jld: yep, that worked.
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97. # [00:44] <jlebar> I guess I will write this in the wiki, and indicate whom users should complain to.
98. # [00:44] <jld> jlebar: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689088
99. # [00:44] <jlebar> jld: thanks
100. # [00:45] <jld> Huh. Is it really just a question of adding a link to the control file or whatever?
101. # [00:45] <jld> s/link/line
102. # [00:46] <efaust> !seen bz
103. # [00:46] <firebot> bz was last seen 17 hours, 19 minutes and 50 seconds ago, saying 'Mook: I'd have to restart my browser to find out...' in #developers.
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105. # [00:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f8024029da3a - Mark Capella - Bug 886587 - Remove profile migrator, r=gcp, f=rnewman
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122. # [00:58] <NeilAway> jdm: yeah, I was looking for the bits such as "xpcshell.ini must contain a [DEFAULT] head= tail="
123. # [00:59] <jdm> that information is above my paygrade
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125. # [01:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0590e3d0c4d - Mats Palmgren - Bug 303896 - Refactor AttributeChanged() to follow code style and make it easier to read (no functional change). r=ehsan
126. # [01:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ceb563e5fcd - Mats Palmgren - Bug 303896 - Turn on displaying the selection when the 'disabled' attr is removed if the element has focus. r=ehsan
127. # [01:00] <@gavin> smaug: can you take bug 897729?
128. # [01:01] <@smaug> gavin: not today
129. # [01:01] <@smaug> backing out the test changes needs some tweaking
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131. # [01:02] <@smaug> gavin: if you don't find anyone else, I could write the backout patch tomorrow noon-ish, EET
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133. # [01:02] <@gavin> smaug: I could try to do it if you put some notes in the bug?
134. # [01:03] <@gavin> otherwise, I guess we can wait until then
135. # [01:03] <@gavin> lsblakk: ^
136. # [01:03] <@smaug> gavin: notes about what?
137. # [01:03] <@gavin> smaug: what test changes need tweaking
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139. # [01:03] <@smaug> gavin: I don't know yet what
140. # [01:03] <@gavin> heh ok
141. # [01:03] <@smaug> the patch just can't be backed out as such
142. # [01:03] <@gavin> well I guess I can look into it
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144. # [01:04] <@smaug> thanks
145. # [01:04] <@smaug> gavin: and if I don't see a patch tomorrow there, I'll do it
146. # [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/38e2b972e33f - Ethan Hugg - Bug 896429 - Signaling: dynamically create SDP config r=abr
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148. # [01:05] <froydnj> mshal++
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150. # [01:07] <@smaug> froydnj: hey, curious, is there some particular hurry with the per-page(or top level document? or per domain?) event loop ?
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154. # [01:11] <tbsaunde> froydnj: ?
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164. # [01:20] <@gavin> njn: ping?
165. # [01:20] <@njn> gavin: pong
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168. # [01:21] <@gavin> njn: hey, I need a bit of assistance with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897729
169. # [01:21] <@gavin> njn: backing out the patch for bug 723163 on beta involves a merge of the test changes from https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/filelog/d8eae64ca0e3/toolkit/components/aboutmemory/tests/test_aboutmemory3.xul that landed after it
170. # [01:21] <@njn> gavin: um, ok
171. # [01:21] <@njn> ah, that makes more sense :)
172. # [01:22] <froydnj> tbsaunde: ?
173. # [01:22] <@gavin> njn: knowing much more about that test, any chance you could give it a try?
174. # [01:22] <froydnj> smaug: not that I know of
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178. # [01:23] <@njn> gavin: bug 723163 just changed the location of some newlines in the expected output
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181. # [01:24] <@njn> gavin: if you tell me the backout cmd I can try to do it for you
182. # [01:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a016adf011fe - Kyle Huey - Bug 897701: Don't entrain the target of the pan longer than necessary. r=jlebar
183. # [01:24] <@gavin> njn: if you're saying that all I need to do is munge newlines until the tests pass, I suppose I should be able to do that!
184. # [01:24] <@njn> gavin: :)
185. # [01:25] <@njn> gavin: and if the test fails, it prints the expected and actual output, which helps
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199. # [01:37] <Waldo> jdm: your knowledge of xpcshell tests appears rusty
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202. # [01:40] <mjrosenb> nooooo proxy
203. # [01:40] <mjrosenb> why are you not responding:(
204. # [01:40] <mjrosenb> and why is there nothing in the logs stating that something has gone awry
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206. # [01:40] <mbrubeck> and I bet his knowledge of rust is xpcshelly!
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209. # [01:44] <mcsmurf> stupid(?)/simple question on dom bindings deps(?): Do I need to clobber avery time now because of this error
210. # [01:45] <mcsmurf> 26:46.16 <../../staticlib/dombindings_s.lib.desc>: Found error
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213. # [01:45] <mcsmurf> as it seems it almost always fails every time there when I build (mostly every two to three days)
214. # [01:45] <mcsmurf> s/avery/ever
215. # [01:45] <mcsmurf> y
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234. # [01:56] <nrc> unping
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240. # [02:00] <grobinson> Can you run mochitests without running X?
241. # [02:01] <grobinson> (on Linux)
242. # [02:01] <glandium> we're getting closer and closer to bug #900k
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244. # [02:01] <@roc> no
245. # [02:01] <glandium> grobinson: you can with xvfb
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247. # [02:01] <mcsmurf> isn't there some trick with xvfb?
248. # [02:01] <mcsmurf> what glandium said
249. # [02:01] <mcsmurf> so you need X, in some way
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251. # [02:02] <mcsmurf> developers.mozilla.org should know more about this
252. # [02:02] <mcsmurf> in the mochitest article
253. # [02:03] <dholbert> just add "xvfb-run" at the beginning of your command
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255. # [02:03] <dholbert> on Ubuntu, at least
256. # [02:03] <dholbert> (you can only have one such job running at a time)
257. # [02:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ade076935d18 - Nick Hurley - Bug 891932 - process the pending spdy transaction queue in order r=mcmanus
258. # [02:04] <jcranmer> nrc: pong
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263. # [02:05] <nrc> jcranmer: unping - was going to ask you about NS_DECL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS, but I found my answer in the bug
264. # [02:05] <jcranmer> ah, ok
265. # [02:06] <mjrosenb> so, I'm running mochitest-7 on android, and at some point or other, it popped up a selection box with one choice |One (°)|, and it hasn't gone away, even though tests have continued to run in the background
266. # [02:06] <mjrosenb> is this expected behavior?
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275. # [02:12] <mbrubeck> mjrosenb: I suspect no one knows the answer to that question
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278. # [02:12] <mbrubeck> since few people ever run those those entire test suites on machines they are actually watching
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280. # [02:13] <mjrosenb> A><"RC"P>CDTH
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282. # [02:14] <mjrosenb> why on earth does the proxy "randomly" start refusing connections?
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299. # [02:30] <mjrosenb> ...
300. # [02:30] <mjrosenb> is the order that tests are run in non-deterministic?
301. # [02:32] <froydnj> mjrosenb: the test ordering should be deterministic
302. # [02:32] <froydnj> if it is somehow not, then that would be a bug
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305. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> I have this in one run: 1515 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_offsets.html | noscroll offsetParent
306. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> 1516 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_offsets.html | noscroll clientLeft
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308. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> 1517 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_offsets.html | noscroll clientTop
309. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> and this in a different run: 1515 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_offsets.html | noscroll offsetParent
310. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> 1516 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_offsets.html | noscroll scrollLeft
311. # [02:33] <mjrosenb> 1517 INFO TEST-PASS | /tests/dom/tests/mochitest/general/test_offsets.html | noscroll scrollTop
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320. # [02:36] <Waldo> 100k bugs/year burn rate, man
321. # [02:36] <mjrosenb> also, how do I find out if a given test is somehow disabled on tbpl, but not locally?
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323. # [02:37] <mjrosenb> because I've been observing tests failing consistently that don't fail on tbpl.
324. # [02:37] <froydnj> that is not unheard of
325. # [02:37] <froydnj> welcome to the joy of running tests locally
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331. # [02:38] <@gavin> usually due to a difference in machine config, not magical disabling
332. # [02:38] <froydnj> yes, that ^
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334. # [02:38] <froydnj> those test machine vm images can't get here fast enough
335. # [02:39] <mjrosenb> gavin: care to elaborate for someone who has never ventured outside of jittests before?
336. # [02:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a06720bea809 - Cameron McCormack - Bug 890773 - Compute -x-text-zoom properly. r=dbaron
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338. # [02:39] <efaust> do tbpl logs capture the result of the program on stdout, or only stderr?
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340. # [02:41] <Waldo> pretty sure they capture both
341. # [02:41] <mjrosenb> efaust: neither.
342. # [02:41] <mjrosenb> oh.
343. # [02:41] <Waldo> but they're not necessarily interleaved "correctly", because they're captured separately
344. # [02:41] <mjrosenb> wait
345. # [02:41] <mjrosenb> you're probably not talking about android.
346. # [02:41] <Waldo> heh
347. # [02:41] <efaust> mjrosenb: true. I am not. but "neither" might still be true :/
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349. # [02:42] <mjrosenb|ARM> ok, that should clear up some confusion while talking to me.
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352. # [02:42] <Waldo> definitely on sane platforms you can printf and it'll show up in the tbpl logs
353. # [02:42] <efaust> in retrospect |printf| and push to try was not a good plan.
354. # [02:42] <efaust> Waldo: oh, really?
355. # [02:42] <efaust> that's...also bad >.>
356. # [02:42] <mjrosenb|ARM> efaust: it has been my plan since monday.
357. # [02:42] <Waldo> I'm all but certain I've done this before numerous times
358. # [02:42] <Waldo> efaust: dump() goes to tbpl logs, that prints to stderr, so there's that
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360. # [02:43] <RyanVM|afk> bholley: ping
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362. # [02:43] <Waldo> actually, no, dump() in xpcshell goes to stdout
363. # [02:43] <Waldo> there, printf should work
364. # [02:44] <mjrosenb|ARM> yup. testLocalStorageQuota.html is not run on tbpl,but it is being run locally.
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366. # [02:44] <mjrosenb|ARM> wait, I should verify that we're both running mochitest-7
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368. # [02:45] <efaust> Waldo: from C++?
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371. # [02:45] <efaust> oh, I see
372. # [02:45] <efaust> nevermind
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380. # [02:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6051977db2a8 - Jim Blandy - Bug 876946: Never return null from Proxy::className, even if we're over-recursed.
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385. # [02:49] <mjrosenb|ARM> froydnj: so, is that a bug that the two runs seem to be running tests in different orders?
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390. # [02:51] <froydnj> mjrosenb|ARM: it sounds like a bug to me
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399. # [02:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a13dafd65d1c - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 895940 - Mirror mozbase to m-c, r=jhammel
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404. # [02:57] <mjrosenb|ARM> ok, so, how do I determine which tests are being run locally that aren't beingrun on tbpl, and then, how do I disable them?
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408. # [02:59] <mjrosenb|ARM> oh, hey, fennec is testing the phones vibration.
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410. # [02:59] <mjrosenb|ARM> that was unexpected.
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439. # [03:19] <bholley> bsmedberg: do PR_Now() and Date.now() use the same clock?
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443. # [03:20] <tbsaunde> Waldo: is there preexisting template foo to see if a class has an inner class with a given name?
444. # [03:21] <tbsaunde> or if a class with a given name exists and has a static method with ta certain name?
445. # [03:21] <Waldo> tbsaunde: no
446. # [03:21] <tbsaunde> :(
447. # [03:21] <bholley> Waldo: do you know the answer to my question to bsmedberg?
448. # [03:21] <Waldo> tbsaunde: I've thought at times we should have one, but I'm honestly not sure that it's possible to write it, or at least I don't have inklings quite off the top of my head about how to do it
449. # [03:22] <Waldo> bholley: they're different implementations, at least; Date.now() uses PRMJ_Now(), which is PR_Now() forked and substantially modified by robarnold
450. # [03:22] <bholley> Waldo: hm
451. # [03:22] <bholley> Waldo: so my order of events is
452. # [03:22] <bholley> (1) I do Date.now()
453. # [03:23] <RyanVM> i'm sure avih could write a book on WinXP clock skew
454. # [03:23] <bholley> (2) I do a 1-shot 10 second XPCOM timer, and wait for it
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456. # [03:23] <bholley> (3) I timestamp again
457. # [03:23] <bholley> but this time, with PR_Now()
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459. # [03:24] <bholley> and the time delta is 9.98 seconds
460. # [03:24] <avih> RyanVM: that's a task for mayhemer ;)
461. # [03:24] <Waldo> bholley: PR_Now's docs say it shouldn't be depended on to advance in a linear fashion
462. # [03:24] <Waldo> bholley: and that it shouldn't be depended on for interval timing
463. # [03:24] <Waldo> bholley: PRMJ_Now() got changed at least in the first regard
464. # [03:24] <bholley> Waldo: hm, then what should it be depended on for? It's got microsecond resolution after all
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466. # [03:25] <Waldo> bholley: saying what time it is at some time
467. # [03:25] <Waldo> and if you want interval timing, use the interval timing APIs
468. # [03:26] <bholley> Waldo: well, I don't want interval timing per se. I'm just trying to write a test that intermixes Date.now() and my watchdog timestamps
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471. # [03:27] <Waldo> bholley: "don't do that" :-\
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473. # [03:27] <Waldo> more than one way to do it bites again :-\
474. # [03:27] <bholley> Waldo: do you have an alternative suggestion?
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477. # [03:28] <Waldo> bholley: use JS_Now() to compare against Date.now() numbers?
478. # [03:28] <bholley> Waldo: well, my timestamps are generated off-main-thread in C++ using PR_Now()
479. # [03:28] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I guess I'll see if the internet has anything useful to say
480. # [03:28] <Waldo> interestingly, looking at PR_Now on Windows, it looks like the algorithm might have been fixed along JS_Now's lines
481. # [03:28] <bholley> Waldo: I'd just like to make sure they look like what I expect
482. # [03:28] <Waldo> at an eyeball comparison
483. # [03:29] <Waldo> nsprpub/pr/src/md/windows/ntmisc.c
484. # [03:29] <Waldo> and js/src/prmjtime.cpp
485. # [03:30] <Waldo> tbsaunde: I'm sure it's possible to do in individual situations, just not sure about a fully-generic way for all possible cases
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487. # [03:30] <tbsaunde> Waldo: ah
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489. # [03:31] <bholley> Waldo: should I generate my C++ timestamps with JS_Now(), should I generate my JS timestamps with PR_Now(), or should I just give up on verifying the intervals are what I expect?
490. # [03:31] <tbsaunde> I'd probably be happy with a somewhat generic IsCycleCollected<T> for not-nsISupports things
491. # [03:32] <tbsaunde> which wouldn't be fit for mfbt, but atleast it would be sort of generally useful in gecko
492. # [03:33] <RyanVM> bholley: fwiw, we hit the failure on win7 too
493. # [03:34] <bholley> RyanVM: serves me right for trying to write tests
494. # [03:34] <RyanVM> when will people ever learn?
495. # [03:34] <Waldo> bholley: I think probably you want to give up, honestly; interval times that XPCOM timers use, and wall-clock times that PR_Now and JS_Now give, are not directly comparable
496. # [03:34] <dhylands> So I did a push to try to get reftests on every platform. It seems to have skipped reftests on android which is the platform I really wanted them on. Is there a way to make it do the reftests?
497. # [03:34] <Waldo> tbsaunde: assuming it's a question people should ask, seems reasonabel
498. # [03:35] <Waldo> s/bel/ble/
499. # [03:35] <bholley> Waldo, RyanVM: would it be preferable to just introduce a fuzz factor instead of disabling the testing entirely?
500. # [03:35] <bholley> we don't actually care if it's that precise
501. # [03:35] <Waldo> bholley: also fine, but I dunno how big the fuzz would need to be
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503. # [03:35] <Waldo> which is all that worries me
504. # [03:35] <RyanVM> dhylands: you have to manually choose the android reftests on trychooser (annoying, I know)
505. # [03:35] <dhylands> RyanVM: ok - so I guess I have to resubmit then?
506. # [03:35] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I don't think its a terribly unreasonable thing in some cases
507. # [03:36] <bholley> Waldo: 1 second is probably fine
508. # [03:36] <RyanVM> bholley: I will of course defer to yours and Waldo's better judgement on such things :)
509. # [03:36] <RyanVM> dhylands, yes :(
510. # [03:36] <bholley> RyanVM: well, you're the sheriff. I know how much sheriffs hate flakey timing-dependent tests
511. # [03:36] <Waldo> tbsaunde: seems like an implementation detail in most cases
512. # [03:36] <bholley> but a 1 second fuzz factor seems probably fine
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514. # [03:37] <tbsaunde> Waldo: sort of, but its sort of importnat to the question how can I hold onto this object
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516. # [03:40] <tbsaunde> I suspect nobody outside of dom bindings / xpconnect / CC cares but that's a couple things :)
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521. # [03:47] <jcranmer> Waldo: have you thought about moving the JS Date.now() stuff to MFBT?
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524. # [03:47] <Waldo> jcranmer: probably should happen at some point, haven't thought about actually doing it
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527. # [03:49] <RyanVM> Waldo: what are the units on those timestamps again?
528. # [03:49] <RyanVM> ms?
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531. # [03:50] <Waldo> RyanVM: PRMJ_Now() is in microseconds
532. # [03:50] <RyanVM> startHibernation: 1374713947.139, stopHibernation: 1374713954.046
533. # [03:50] <RyanVM> oh wow, so the fail here is 7us?
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535. # [03:50] <RyanVM> bholley^?
536. # [03:51] <bholley> RyanVM: we're failing with startHibernation as well?
537. # [03:51] <bholley> RyanVM: yeah, this is microseconds
538. # [03:51] <RyanVM> bholley: that was just from one of the logs I opened
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540. # [03:51] <RyanVM> seems like 1s is a plenty big fuzz factor :P
541. # [03:52] <jcranmer> Waldo: I've filed a MFBT bug that's basically that
542. # [03:52] <bholley> RyanVM: we could do smaller
543. # [03:52] <bholley> RyanVM: I just don't want to cause trouble for automation
544. # [03:52] <bholley> RyanVM: like, in terms of the behavior we're testing, 1 second doesn't matter
545. # [03:52] <Waldo> jcranmer: yeah, I saw that; big enough API surface I'm wary of diving too much into it, need to get work done, and incremental improvements are more in line with that :-)
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548. # [03:53] <glandium> jcranmer: these things should go in mozglue, not mfbt
549. # [03:53] <jcranmer> Waldo: my fault for cramming so many design specs into it
550. # [03:53] <jcranmer> glandium: what's the difference?
551. # [03:53] <Waldo> jcrammer ;-)
552. # [03:54] <glandium> mfbt is meant to be a template library ; mozglue is a library available from (almost) everywhere
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554. # [03:54] <glandium> the latter contains the former
555. # [03:54] <glandium> so it's kind of a side effect that putting stuff in mfbt works
556. # [03:54] <glandium> that doesn't make it right
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561. # [03:56] <RyanVM> bholley: I won't claim that I've gone through the 15+ failing logs on inbound to see what the range is
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563. # [03:58] <Waldo> mfbt's a functionality library, don't believe the name :-)
564. # [03:59] <glandium> Waldo: that's more the role of mozglue
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566. # [03:59] <Waldo> not sure I agree, JS doesn't use mozglue, but whatever :-)
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568. # [03:59] <Waldo> probably we should just roll them into one thing
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570. # [03:59] <glandium> Waldo: js not using mozglue is a bug
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572. # [04:00] <Waldo> perhaps, I don't have strong opinions on that
573. # [04:00] <glandium> Waldo: in fact, js uses mozglue. it just doesn't in standalone builds, which is the bug
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584. # [04:07] <RyanVM> bholley: hate to be a pest, but how goes that fix?
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588. # [04:10] <RyanVM> dholbert: ping
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591. # [04:12] <dholbert> RyanVM, semi-pong
592. # [04:12] <RyanVM> dholbert: so we hit Werror bustage in widget/gtk2 on a recent inbound clobber build
593. # [04:12] <RyanVM> *pgo
594. # [04:13] <RyanVM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=25693951&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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599. # [04:16] <dholbert> RyanVM, ah, pgo config specific looks like
600. # [04:16] <RyanVM> yeah, awesome
601. # [04:16] <RyanVM> just backout fo rnow?
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603. # [04:17] <dholbert> RyanVM, could you back out my patch? yeah
604. # [04:17] <glandium> i see no reason for such an error to be pgo specific
605. # [04:17] <RyanVM> KWierso: that's your cue :)
606. # [04:17] <RyanVM> unless glandium wants to swoop in with a proper fix
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608. # [04:17] <dholbert> thanks! (afk, typing on phone)
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611. # [04:18] <dholbert> glandium, dunno. it's in mozalloc, which I'm willing to believe does different stuff depending on type of build
612. # [04:19] <dholbert> can't look in detail right now
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614. # [04:20] <glandium> the right fix is to add #undefs before the #defines in memory/mozalloc/mozalloc_macro_wrappers.h
615. # [04:21] <glandium> because system headers may decide to make those defines
616. # [04:21] <RyanVM> go for it
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619. # [04:21] <RyanVM> otherwise we'll just backout for now
620. # [04:21] <glandium> but that wouldn't fix instances where the mozalloc header is included before the system header
621. # [04:22] <glandium> RyanVM: backout
622. # [04:22] <KWierso> on it
623. # [04:22] <glandium> RyanVM: unrelatedly, do you still do aurora landings?
624. # [04:23] <RyanVM> yep
625. # [04:23] <glandium> RyanVM: when is your next one planned?
626. # [04:23] <Waldo> nrc: did your background rendering changes introduce different paths for repeat/no-repeat, possibly? I'm really confused as to how that wouldn't have busted an existing test
627. # [04:23] <RyanVM> when I wake up in the morning
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629. # [04:23] <RyanVM> since I'll be off to bed soon
630. # [04:23] <glandium> RyanVM: define morning :)
631. # [04:23] <RyanVM> US EDT
632. # [04:23] <glandium> morning is ending, here :)
633. # [04:23] <RyanVM> 8-9am
634. # [04:24] <glandium> so 9-10pm for me... i'd better land my patches if i want to watch the tree
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636. # [04:25] <RyanVM> up to you :)
637. # [04:25] <nrc> Waldo: not sure, looking. I did change some tests which were not fully specified, but they were gradients, not SVG
638. # [04:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74589e31436d - Wes Kocher - Backout 04bde6c5fb16 (bug 896292) for PGO-only build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
639. # [04:25] <RyanVM> I watch aurora all day when I'm on the clock, fwiw
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641. # [04:26] <Jesse> wchen: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=895805 is causing a lot of trouble for my dom fuzzer
642. # [04:26] <Waldo> nrc: the gradient tests weren't ones where the gradient was a background, right? because I changed a few in bug 609714, definitely to the right thing
643. # [04:27] <Waldo> oh, -moz-element backgrounds
644. # [04:27] <Waldo> those aren't the same as gradients! :-)
645. # [04:28] <Waldo> or at least they weren't when I was doing bug 609714
646. # [04:28] <froydnj> wait, we don't do b2g debug builds *at all*?
647. # [04:28] <Waldo> froydnj: nope, ain't it great?
648. # [04:28] <froydnj> W. T. F.
649. # [04:28] <Waldo> froydnj: I naively tried to do a b2g debug build, it won't even (I think due to linker OOM or something)
650. # [04:28] <froydnj> so much for that NS_ASSERTION cataching b2g ipc issues
651. # [04:28] <Waldo> froydnj: asked in #b2g, they said not to do it
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655. # [04:29] <froydnj> *boggle*
656. # [04:29] <Waldo> <insert strangelove meme here>
657. # [04:30] <froydnj> keep calm and only build opt
658. # [04:30] <RyanVM> no comment
659. # [04:30] <Waldo> froydnj++
660. # [04:30] <froydnj> whatever, maybe the reftest-ipc suite will catch something
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663. # [04:31] <nrc> Waldo: yeah, only moz-element backgrounds, and no, still different
664. # [04:32] <froydnj> hm, guess our android machines are...backed up
665. # [04:32] <nthomas> the 2.2 ones ?
666. # [04:32] <RyanVM> Waldo: were you going to look at bholley's patch? It's contributing to the current tree closure
667. # [04:33] <froydnj> nthomas: all of them, judging by trychooser
668. # [04:33] <Waldo> RyanVM: um, I could, but I didn't know I was on the hook to look! link?
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670. # [04:33] <RyanVM> Waldo: Bug 897789
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672. # [04:33] <nthomas> froydnj: most of that is coming from the tegras (2.2 test boards), go ahead if you only need a build
673. # [04:33] <jesup> froydnj: *double-boggle*
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676. # [04:34] <froydnj> nthomas: hm, I have a debug all-tests push running on android, should I cancel that?
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678. # [04:35] <Waldo> RyanVM, bholley who is not here: done
679. # [04:35] <RyanVM> Waldo: :woowoo:
680. # [04:35] <RyanVM> thanks :)
681. # [04:36] <nthomas> froydnj: only if you didn't really need those tests
682. # [04:36] <nthomas> debug doesn't test anyway
683. # [04:36] <Waldo> RyanVM: I don't poll on my review queue at ten-minute intervals :-)
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687. # [04:37] <froydnj> nthomas: ah, well, that's useful too. thanks!
688. # [04:37] <Waldo> semi-daily or so I look at it, might see things sooner in bugmail if I see the request mail at the top of a collapsed thread, but certainly I don't see most so immediately
689. # [04:37] <Callek> holy hell, yea we have 900 give or take pending tegras
690. # [04:37] * Callek sighs
691. # [04:37] <RyanVM> Waldo: I wouldn't have complained if he'd just pushed it as a bustage fix :P
692. # [04:37] <Waldo> :-)
693. # [04:37] <nthomas> Callek: seem to be down about a third on our best capacity
694. # [04:38] <Callek> yea
695. # [04:38] <Callek> :(
696. # [04:38] <Waldo> yeah, for a bustage fix like that I'm not sure why there'd be no IRC-ping usually
697. # [04:40] <Callek> oo fun gum is totally hosed
698. # [04:40] * Callek cancels some tegra jobs there
699. # [04:41] <Callek> theres also a whole bunch of tegra jobs that are claimed as running but are really done
700. # [04:41] <jcranmer> sigh
701. # [04:41] <jcranmer> I have a test that fails on try but not locally
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707. # [04:47] <JosiahOne> jcranmer: Hey cool. You landed the NS_AtomicRefcnt* -> mozilla/Atomic
708. # [04:48] * JosiahOne didn't notice that yesterday.
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711. # [04:49] <jcranmer> it's funny how a large patch can land with so little fanfare :-P
712. # [04:50] <JosiahOne> We can throw an after party if you want. :)
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714. # [04:51] <JosiahOne> Though to be fair, I was only watching c-c yesterday and was expecting a much larger push. I see now most of that landed on m-c.
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719. # [04:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1ebe771b4245 - Bobby Holley - Bug 897789 - Add a fuzz factor to watchdog tests. r=Waldo
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725. # [05:03] <Waldo> hmm, can anyone suggest a good XPCOM header into which I can squirrel a few function declarations intended solely for use by XPCJSRuntime? in a slightly better-architected world I would do this all privately in nsXPComInit.cpp -- and perhaps we'll get to that world at some point -- so the more hidden-ly I can do this, the better
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730. # [05:04] <Waldo> I could do evil things like having separate externs and spooky interactions at a distance, but I doubt my ability to get that reviewed :-)
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737. # [05:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a4c1961bf723 - Wes Kocher - Backout 4ededc9b11f (bug 897433) for intermittent dromeao crashes
738. # [05:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c6b9530205a4 - Wes Kocher - Merge m-c to inbound on a CLOSED TREE
739. # [05:08] <@roc> hurrah, MediaStream/ElementAudioSourceNode implemented.
740. # [05:08] <@roc> now what?
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747. # [05:12] <@khuey> roc: xbl2> :-P
748. # [05:12] <@khuey> s/>/?/
749. # [05:12] <@roc> I thought you were on that
750. # [05:12] <@khuey> no that's blake
751. # [05:12] <@khuey> and wchen
752. # [05:12] <@khuey> though if you want to do my work that can be arranged
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788. # [05:34] <@njn> oh sweet! those test_watchdog.js failures on Windows on try aren't my fault
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801. # [05:50] <Waldo> :-)
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818. # [06:07] <@njn> Waldo: what exactly is a native object?
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836. # [06:27] <grobinson> I want to write an xpcshell test that can load a URI into an nsIDocShell so I can check some flags on the docShell that are set during the load.
837. # [06:28] <grobinson> Unfortunately, nsIDocShell.loadURI is [noscript]
838. # [06:28] <grobinson> Is there some other way to achieve this?
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843. # [06:35] <glandium> grobinson: even if it were not noscript, i'm not sure the docshell works in xpcshell
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860. # [06:51] <tbsaunde> grobinson: you need a mochitest-chrome for that, and you probably need to QI nsIDocShell to one of the zillion other things it implements to get it to load a URI (nsIWebNavigation maybe?)
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862. # [06:51] <mihneadb> Unfocused: pinging you now, because of the timezone difference. :) I didn't really find too many dummy urls (for icons & stuff). Where should I look? (I basically grepped for stuff that looks as an URL)
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866. # [06:53] <grobinson> glandium: tbsaunde thanks. hm, I just want to run an nsIContentPolicy against the document loaded by a URI
867. # [06:54] <grobinson> i need to test a lot of URI's so I want to do it as fast as possible
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870. # [06:55] <Unfocused> mihneadb: i just grepped for "localhost:4444" in tests/addons and tests/xpcshell
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874. # [06:57] <mjrosenb|ARM> is there anyone around that can be a bit of a monkey for me?
875. # [06:57] <mihneadb> Unfocused: ok, will do that again to make sure :)
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877. # [06:57] <mjrosenb|ARM> I need a bunch of buttons pressed, and am planning on collapsing from exhaustion in the next few minutes.
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881. # [07:02] <markh> mjrosenb|ARM: I can probably help
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884. # [07:03] <markh> while I'm waiting for the answer to my question ;)
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886. # [07:04] <mjrosenb|ARM> ok, so Ihave a bug that previously only triggered about one in a hundred runs of mochitests. previously I just waited until I could retrigger a test, and then retriggered every mochitest about 20 times
887. # [07:04] <markh> if I create an iframe in the hidden DOM window (which is just mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/src/res/hiddenWindow.html IIUC), the parent docshell for that iframe is null. However, if I create an iframe in a regular HTML document, the parent docshell is the window holding the html. Does anyone know why that difference? ie, what is special about the hidden window?
888. # [07:04] <mjrosenb|ARM> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=e5b93c1b9621 -- however, I'm going to sleep, and I can't retrigger them while i'm asleep.
889. # [07:05] <Callek> mjrosenb|ARM: this is "trigger all these mochitests on tegra"?
890. # [07:05] <markh> mjrosenb|ARM: right, so you just want one test to start, then fire off lots of retriggers?
891. # [07:05] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: yeah, it doesn't work too well when the tegras are horribly overloaded.
892. # [07:05] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: the pandas also work, but not as well.
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894. # [07:05] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: I think they get failures about 1/10 as frequently as the tegras.
895. # [07:06] <Callek> mjrosenb|ARM: note that right now we have |823| pending tegra jobs, so its probably easiest to wait until tomorrow AM when I loan you the foopy with *two* known-good tegras
896. # [07:06] <Callek> (I decided on two due to the nature of your bug, rather than just one, so you can run stuff in parallel :-) )
897. # [07:06] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: oh, then no tegras triggers
898. # [07:06] <mjrosenb|ARM> just panda
899. # [07:07] <mjrosenb|ARM> if I wake up and that has crashed, I may not even need the foopy.
900. # [07:07] <Callek> yea pandas don't have any (current) pendings
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903. # [07:07] <Callek> also why are we both up at ~1am doing any work
904. # [07:07] <Callek> we're crazy
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906. # [07:08] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: keep in mind, I slept from 8 am to 11 am today.
907. # [07:08] <mjrosenb|ARM> err
908. # [07:08] <Callek> mjrosenb|ARM: well I got up at noon, so we're not that far off :-)
909. # [07:08] <mjrosenb|ARM> yesterday at this point.
910. # [07:08] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: bet you went to bed before I did.
911. # [07:08] <Callek> anyway, I'll tackle those panda retriggers for you
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914. # [07:08] <Callek> (last night)
915. # [07:09] <mjrosenb|ARM> Callek: thank you very much
916. # [07:09] <mjrosenb|ARM> and goodnight all.
917. # [07:09] <Callek> mjrosenb|ARM: ooo real quick (if you're not already gone)
918. # [07:09] <Callek> just mochi-7 right?
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921. # [07:10] <Callek> mjrosenb|ARM: or do you want 'every mochitest'
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926. # [07:12] <markh> if I create an iframe in the hidden DOM window (which is just mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/src/res/hiddenWindow.html IIUC), the parent docshell for that iframe is null. However, if I create an iframe in a regular HTML document, the parent docshell is the window holding the html. Does anyone know why that difference? ie, what is special about the hidden window?
927. # [07:13] <mihneadb> Unfocused: this is so funky. some of the urls in the XML I can change, others not
928. # [07:13] <mihneadb> i.e. author I can't, meta stuff (like icon) I can
929. # [07:13] <jst> markh: the hidden window is special, it's not really in a docshell hierarcy, no chrome window etc (which would be the docshell's parent)
930. # [07:14] <markh> jst: ok, thanks - any idea where that special-ness exists?
931. # [07:15] <markh> ie, for my interest, I'd like to know where that magic lives
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933. # [07:15] <markh> I'm pretty sure it's not in the code that fetches the parent docshell
934. # [07:16] <jst> markh: I'm pretty sure it's in the code that creates the hidden window
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936. # [07:16] <jst> markh: I couldn't tell you off the top of my head where that code lives tho :(
937. # [07:16] <markh> jst: awesome, thanks! At least that explains the problem I have, so I'm not going mad :) That's enough info for me to pose a reasonable question on dev.platform - so thanks :)
938. # [07:17] <jst> markh: np!
939. # [07:17] <glandium> KWierso: the new pgo reds are going to stay red
940. # [07:18] <glandium> KWierso: because changeset a13dafd65d1c broke then pgo script
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942. # [07:18] <glandium> KWierso: so the starring you did on changeset a13dafd65d1c is actually wrong. The win pgo failure is a new one
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963. # [07:33] <mihneadb> Unfocused: ok, uploaded the final (I think/hope!) version :)
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1082. # [08:57] <Tomcat> ok now checking the trees :)
1083. # [08:58] <efaust> Tomcat: has the nightly merge happened?
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1089. # [09:01] <Tomcat> efaust: not sure, there were a lot of bustages yesterday/last night
1090. # [09:02] * efaust nods
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1114. # [09:20] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/happy-bmo-push-day-56/
1115. # [09:20] <KWierso> Tomcat/efaust: stuff was merged around a few hours ago
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1117. # [09:20] <efaust> KWierso: blast, Ok
1118. # [09:20] * efaust was hoping to sneak a few patches in tonight
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1121. # [09:21] <KWierso> efaust: nothing should stop tomcat from doing another merge later, aside from the various busted things ;)
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1125. # [09:26] <Tomcat> KWierso: ok cool thanks
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1138. # [09:35] <ferjm> is it possible to implement XPCOM components within frame scripts injected via loadFrameScript()?
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1143. # [09:39] <darktrojan> I should update my tree
1144. # [09:39] <darktrojan> too bad it takes 2 hours to build again :/
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1162. # [09:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb1a587df374 - Eric Faust - Bug 897875 - Add IsCallPC(). (r=h4writer)
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1164. # [09:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/852cd603e5e0 - Eric Faust - Bug 897492 - Fix bogus assert. (r=djvj)
1165. # [09:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d0282b81e0cc - Eric Faust - Bug 897866 - Move types::IsInlinableCall() to Ion.h as ion::IsIonInlinablePC() (r=h4writer)
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1198. # [10:13] <NeilAway> bah, bugzilla really is down for just me :s
1199. # [10:13] <glob> NeilAway, oh?
1200. # [10:13] <glob> NeilAway, can you expand on "down" ?
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1206. # [10:14] <glob> NeilAway, are you having connectivity issues, or some other error?
1207. # [10:14] <glob> NeilAway, i just pushed some major changes to bmo; pretty keen to jump on issues immediately :)
1208. # [10:14] <h4writer> markh, don't know if you did actually had to push buttons, but the needed crash happened ;)
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1212. # [10:18] <NeilAway> glob: couldn't connect from my vm
1213. # [10:18] <glob> NeilAway, ah, \o/
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1222. # [10:32] <NeilAway> glob: in fact I'm having trouble reaching anything other than Google from my vm :s
1223. # [10:32] <edmorley> glob: the rest api changes?
1224. # [10:33] <glob> edmorley, no, the tracking flags changes
1225. # [10:33] <glob> edmorley, we haven't migrated the current code, but we can now add tracking flags without adding a column to the bugs table!
1226. # [10:33] <edmorley> nice! :-)
1227. # [10:33] <glob> edmorley, migration will involve dropping about 150 columns from that table
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1229. # [10:36] <edmorley> \o/
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1231. # [10:37] <edmorley> who maintains https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/ ?
1232. # [10:37] <Pike> Jesper?
1233. # [10:39] <edmorley> ah, thank you
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1237. # [10:42] <darktrojan> glob, \o/
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1240. # [10:47] <Optimize1> m try was going super speedy
1241. # [10:47] <Optimize1> and now it is super slow
1242. # [10:47] <Optimize1> what happened ? are the boxes on a coffee break ?
1243. # [10:47] <Optimize1> :P
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1248. # [10:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2acba061b849 - Jonathan Wilde - Bug 894949 - Defect - Plural form strings are excessively complex for both devs and translators. f=flod, r=mbrubeck
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1272. # [11:14] <Optimize1> anyone have any idea why I am hitting WARNING: Subdocument container has no frame: file ../../../layout/base/nsDocumentViewer.cpp, line 2374 on debug builds ?
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1276. # [11:17] <@smaug> Optimize1: you have <iframe style="display: none;"> ?
1277. # [11:18] <@smaug> (that warning is probably really old, and rather useless, I think)
1278. # [11:18] <Optimize1> I don't think that i have display:none
1279. # [11:18] <Optimize1> but I do have iframe
1280. # [11:18] <Optimize1> also, because of this warning, and some 2 more assertions, some API are not working
1281. # [11:19] <Optimize1> smaug: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=25707053&tree=Try&full=1#error2
1282. # [11:20] <@smaug> Optimize1: well, the warning doesn't cause anything to no work
1283. # [11:20] <@smaug> it is just a warning
1284. # [11:21] <Optimize1> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=25706803&tree=Try&full=1#error4
1285. # [11:21] <Optimize1> for this too ?
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1287. # [11:21] <Optimize1> there are 3 assertion warnings too
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1289. # [11:22] <Optimize1> hmm. then must be something else causing all debug builds to fail
1290. # [11:22] <Optimize1> (and only debug)
1291. # [11:22] <@smaug> Optimize1: well, the warning can hint what the problem is.
1292. # [11:23] <Optimize1> is that warning supposed to be hittable only in debug builds ?
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1294. # [11:23] <@smaug> warnings do show up only in debug builds
1295. # [11:23] <@smaug> just like asserts
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1297. # [11:23] <gsvelto> meh... my laptop just logged a machine check exception due to overheating; compiling mozilla-central is a lot of work isn't it? ;-)
1298. # [11:24] <Optimize1> so I don;t have a way to know if this warning is happening only in debug builds or all the builds ..
1299. # [11:25] <@smaug> but during winter time compiling m-c is a good heater
1300. # [11:25] <@smaug> Optimize1: well, can you reproduce it locally ?
1301. # [11:25] <Optimize1> nope
1302. # [11:26] <Optimize1> I don;t have debug build though
1303. # [11:26] <@smaug> you develop something using opt build o_O
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1305. # [11:27] <Optimize1> see my nick
1306. # [11:27] <@smaug> :)
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1308. # [11:27] <Optimize1> considering that normal build take 2 hrs, I would wonder how much debug build will take
1309. # [11:27] <glazou> can anyone try to reach http://jsbeautifier.org/ with a very recent nightly? The document seems truncated while other browsers download it fine
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1311. # [11:28] <@smaug> Optimize1: hmm, MoFo couldn't get you a new machine?
1312. # [11:28] <Optimize1> MoFo ?
1313. # [11:28] <Optimize1> thuglife ?
1314. # [11:29] <@smaug> Optimize1: or does MoCo pay you these days? :)
1315. # [11:29] <Optimize1> no
1316. # [11:29] <@smaug> you used to be GSoc student last year, right?
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1318. # [11:29] <Optimize1> gsoc is not continuous ;)
1319. # [11:29] <@smaug> sure
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1323. # [11:30] <@smaug> but just wondering ... Mozilla Foundation used to buy computers for some active volunteers, I think
1324. # [11:31] <Optimize1> I have one mac
1325. # [11:31] <Optimize1> that they gave
1326. # [11:31] <Optimize1> :)
1327. # [11:31] <Optimize1> but still
1328. # [11:31] <@smaug> ahaa
1329. # [11:31] <Optimize1> its not about a new computer. my windows machine is pretty damn fast
1330. # [11:31] <@smaug> glazou: hmm, indeed
1331. # [11:31] <@smaug> glazou: have you filed a bug
1332. # [11:32] <@smaug> we need regression range
1333. # [11:32] <glazou> smaug: not yet, I wanted someone else's confirmation
1334. # [11:32] <@smaug> glazou: I see a light gray page, with no content
1335. # [11:32] <glazou> right, you'll get a bit more content if you shift-reload
1336. # [11:32] <glazou> s/'ll/should
1337. # [11:32] <@smaug> oh
1338. # [11:32] <glazou> but I never got the whole page
1339. # [11:33] <@smaug> odd stuff
1340. # [11:33] <Optimize1> happening in 23rd nightly too
1341. # [11:33] <@smaug> definitely need regression range
1342. # [11:33] <glazou> smaug: a suggestion for component?
1343. # [11:33] <Optimize1> i am guessing that 22 might be the first one
1344. # [11:33] <Optimize1> layout ?
1345. # [11:34] <glazou> Optimize1: not sure at all, seems to me network-related
1346. # [11:34] <Optimize1> oh wait
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1348. # [11:34] <Optimize1> Ctrl F5 on 23rd gave me the whole page
1349. # [11:34] <Six> smaug/glazou: i don't have any troubles...
1350. # [11:34] <Optimize1> and now it works
1351. # [11:35] <Six> glazou: you don't see anything on the page?
1352. # [11:35] <Six> glazou: i rebuold mine about 24h ago if it helps you ;)
1353. # [11:35] <Six> *rebuild
1354. # [11:35] <glazou> I see some text, some dropdown menus and the source view shows truncated content
1355. # [11:36] <glazou> Six: I just updated to last nightly and I still see the bug
1356. # [11:36] <glazou> let me empty my cache
1357. # [11:36] <glazou> same thing
1358. # [11:37] <Six> glazou: my version 25.0a1 (2013-07-24)
1359. # [11:37] <glazou> me too
1360. # [11:37] <glazou> OS X for me
1361. # [11:37] * darktrojan wonders why his load average is greater than the number of processors
1362. # [11:37] <Six> linux64b
1363. # [11:37] <Six> smaug: what is your system?
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1366. # [11:37] <glazou> filing in networking for the time being
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1370. # [11:39] <Six> smaug: which system are you using?
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1372. # [11:40] <Six> glazou: here is what i see: http://postimg.org/image/3q8bdgxd3/
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1374. # [11:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/973361ec4fb5 - Emanuel Hoogeveen - Bug 888088 (part 10) - Fix #include ordering in most of js/src/ion/. r=nnethercote.
1375. # [11:42] <glazou> Six: and I see that, whatever i do : http://postimg.org/image/amp83zjxl/
1376. # [11:42] <Six> glazou: big difference, seems to be platform related
1377. # [11:43] <@smaug> Six: Linux (Fedora 18 / 64bit)
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1379. # [11:43] <Optimize1> it might be that JS beautifier is trolling, but very unlikely
1380. # [11:43] <Six> smaug: ok thanks and you see the same thing that glazou posted?
1381. # [11:43] <Optimize1> pick and IP, never show full site to it.
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1384. # [11:47] <glazou> smaug, Six: wanna be cc:ed?
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1386. # [11:47] <Six> glazou: ok for me
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1390. # [11:49] <glazou> Six, smaug : bug 897904
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1392. # [11:52] <Six> glazou: ok thanks
1393. # [11:52] <Six> what is your mozconfig? to see if i build it the same way
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1398. # [11:54] <glazou> Six: this is not a nightly I build myself
1399. # [11:54] <Six> glazou: yep me too
1400. # [11:54] <Six> glazou: ok sorry misunderstood ;)
1401. # [11:55] <Six> smaug: it's the downloaded nightly you're using too? or you build it yourself?
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1403. # [11:57] <glazou> downloaded
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1406. # [12:00] <@smaug> Six: I'm using my own build
1407. # [12:01] * glazou is now known as glazou_afk
1408. # [12:01] <glazou_afk> $
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1414. # [12:05] <@smaug> s/$/€/
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1416. # [12:07] <Six> smaug: we should set the bug as platform All-All no? instead of OsX-x86
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1418. # [12:10] <Optimize1> glob|away: my bugmails are getting small fonts again
1419. # [12:10] <Optimize1> on gmail.
1420. # [12:11] <Optimize1> only for comments though.
1421. # [12:12] <@smaug> Six: right
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1424. # [12:15] <Six> smaug: done
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1436. # [12:34] <@smaug> ttaubert: don't know who actually owns findbar, but the leak is rather bad. I had yesterday about 5000 elements in the CC graph because of findbar.
1437. # [12:34] <@smaug> I should perhaps try to find the regression range
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1440. # [12:35] <ttaubert> smaug: ouch. I think mikedeboer does?
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1442. # [12:35] <decoder> glandium: ping?
1443. # [12:35] <ttaubert> at least I think he rewrote it
1444. # [12:35] <@smaug> k
1445. # [12:35] <@smaug> then I CCed the right person
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1447. # [12:36] <glazou> smaug: lol re €
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1449. # [12:37] <ttaubert> smaug: which bug # was that again?
1450. # [12:37] * smaug is now known as smaugAfk
1451. # [12:37] <@smaugAfk> ttaubert: let me see
1452. # [12:37] <ttaubert> the leak I mean
1453. # [12:37] <@smaugAfk> ttaubert: bug 897751
1454. # [12:37] <ttaubert> smaugAfk: thx
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1458. # [12:39] <Gijs> ttaubert, smaugAfk are we sure that's caused by the move to top, not by per-tab findbar?
1459. # [12:39] <ttaubert> Gijs: good question, no
1460. # [12:40] <Gijs> if we don't have a regression window that sounds more plausible a priori
1461. # [12:40] <ttaubert> Gijs: I fixed that
1462. # [12:40] <Gijs> although I guess it depends how it's implemented.
1463. # [12:40] <ttaubert> Gijs: do you know the bug numberfor the per-tab thingy?
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1466. # [12:41] <Gijs> not offhand, no, sorry
1467. # [12:41] <Gijs> probably in that graph though
1468. # [12:41] <decoder> anyone else, does this little trace here make any sense to you? http://decoder.pastebin.mozilla.org/2706934
1469. # [12:41] <decoder> (line 708 is const String env_var = FlagToEnvVar(flag); )
1470. # [12:41] <ttaubert> Gijs: looking at the "move to the top" patch I think it's quite unlikely that that's the cause
1471. # [12:41] <decoder> more precisely, what's the alloc and the dealloc happening there
1472. # [12:42] <Gijs> ttaubert: bug 537013
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1475. # [12:42] <ttaubert> Gijs: thx
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1479. # [12:47] <m_gol> hey, what's the best place to ask about l20n? IRC channel is a ghost town...
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1482. # [12:51] <glandium> decoder: pong
1483. # [12:51] <Standard8> m_gol: you could try #l10n, but you may find you're just at the wrong time of day
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1485. # [12:52] <m_gol> Standard8: right... it's 1 pm in Poland but USA is sleeping at this time; I'll try later, thanks!
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1487. # [12:54] <decoder> glandium: see my question a few lines above :) with the trace. does that make any sense to you?
1488. # [12:54] <decoder> im hitting this in gtests
1489. # [12:56] <glandium> decoder: that can be plenty of things
1490. # [12:56] <glandium> one of which is bad compiler optimizations
1491. # [12:57] <decoder> >.<
1492. # [12:57] <glandium> (as in, asan not interacting very well with our operator new/delete stuff from mozalloc)
1493. # [12:57] <decoder> well, i was told this shouldnt produce false positives
1494. # [12:57] <decoder> it either means we're calling malloc + delete or new + free
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1496. # [12:57] <decoder> in this case malloc + delete
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1498. # [12:58] <decoder> which is bad
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1500. # [12:58] <glandium> decoder: there are very few places that call moz_xmalloc directly, and the most notable place it is used is the infallible operator new
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1504. # [13:00] <decoder> glandium: that seems ok to me. but we cannot call delete on that memory later, can we?
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1506. # [13:00] <glandium> decoder: the only way gtest can call moz_xmalloc is through that operator new
1507. # [13:00] <glandium> so it's very much expected that it'd be freed with delete
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1509. # [13:00] <decoder> im confused
1510. # [13:00] <glandium> to me, it looks like there's a problem with how things are hooked up for asan
1511. # [13:00] <decoder> moz_xmalloc calls malloc
1512. # [13:01] <decoder> then delete is called on that memory
1513. # [13:01] <decoder> so delete is called on malloced memory
1514. # [13:01] <decoder> which isnt allowed
1515. # [13:01] <glandium> decoder: delete calls moz_free
1516. # [13:01] <decoder> in this case not
1517. # [13:01] <decoder> thats the point
1518. # [13:01] <Ms2ger> Well, there's your bug
1519. # [13:01] <decoder> delete is called directly somewhere
1520. # [13:01] <decoder> not through moz_free
1521. # [13:01] <decoder> asan hooks the real delete
1522. # [13:01] <decoder> not ours
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1525. # [13:03] <glandium> decoder: iow, asan detects something that is not an actual problem since that code *does* use new, *and* delete
1526. # [13:03] <glandium> again, the problem is with how asan is hooked
1527. # [13:03] <decoder> glandium: asan detects here that stuff is alloced through malloc but deleted with delete
1528. # [13:03] <decoder> i dont know how it happens but thats what is being detected
1529. # [13:04] <decoder> i can file this to the asan devs
1530. # [13:04] <decoder> but they usually tell me that these are real bugs
1531. # [13:04] <glandium> decoder: the code does use new, and delete. that is uses malloc and delete is an unfortunate consequence of static linking with asan enabled
1532. # [13:04] <glandium> it's not a problem in asan itself
1533. # [13:04] <decoder> glandium: we dont have this problem in our codebase elsehwere
1534. # [13:04] <decoder> *where
1535. # [13:04] <glandium> it's a problem in *our* stuff not going well with asan
1536. # [13:04] <decoder> we only have 3-4 alloc dealloc mismatches right now from what I know
1537. # [13:05] <decoder> most of the code works well without any aborts of that kind
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1539. # [13:05] <decoder> okay.. what can we do about it?
1540. # [13:05] <glandium> because most of the code doesn't trigger crazy stuff
1541. # [13:06] <decoder> glandium: do you think it's possible to get a minimal repro for this? Id like to bring this up to asan devs because it should not be possible to produce false positives like this
1542. # [13:06] <decoder> at least the asan devs said so
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1544. # [13:08] <decoder> btw, regarding static linking + asan, afaik asan sets up these interceptions at runtime before anything else happens (if that matters)
1545. # [13:08] <glandium> decoder: and it doesn't know that inlined operator new calls malloc
1546. # [13:09] <decoder> why does it need to know that, if it intercepts malloc?
1547. # [13:09] <glandium> decoder: your best bet is to find what that ?? line is
1548. # [13:10] <glandium> decoder: the code is correctly calling operator new and operator delete ; in practice, it also does the right thing because of how we hook things up. But asan can't know it
1549. # [13:10] <decoder> afaik, asan intercepts all the real operators before anything happens.. that is malloc/free/new/delete.. what we do on top of it shouldnt matter at all. and it sees that we're calling malloc + delete
1550. # [13:10] <decoder> (not our delete)
1551. # [13:11] <glandium> that's the point.
1552. # [13:11] <glandium> code in libxul that calls operator new will go to malloc
1553. # [13:11] <decoder> which delete are we talking about? or own operator delete? or the original one?
1554. # [13:11] <glandium> code in libxul that calls operator delete will go to free
1555. # [13:11] <glandium> *always*
1556. # [13:11] <decoder> okay.. but we are not ending up in free
1557. # [13:11] <glandium> except that when asan diverts delete, it doesn't
1558. # [13:12] <glandium> *because* asan diverts delete
1559. # [13:12] <decoder> but then wouldnt it divert new too?
1560. # [13:12] <glandium> because it's inlined
1561. # [13:12] <decoder> oh, you're saying one is inlined
1562. # [13:12] <decoder> and the other is not?
1563. # [13:12] <glandium> exactly
1564. # [13:12] <decoder> i understand, thanks
1565. # [13:12] <decoder> ill ask that question the asan devs and see what they say about it :) thanks!
1566. # [13:13] <glandium> decoder: that being said, it *might* be preferable for that delete to be inlined. But your backtrace doesn't say where it is
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1568. # [13:14] <decoder> okay
1569. # [13:14] <glandium> what i'd suggest is to add -Wl,-map,somefile.map to LDFLAGS, and check with that somefile.map what the address (minus the lib load address) points to
1570. # [13:15] <glandium> it's likely a STL template instantiation
1571. # [13:15] <decoder> oh, thats a bit too much of linker magic for me i think^^
1572. # [13:15] <glandium> and it could be a stl template instantiation with delete not inlined when it should be
1573. # [13:16] <glandium> decoder: is that a local build?
1574. # [13:16] <decoder> yes
1575. # [13:16] <glandium> linux64?
1576. # [13:17] <decoder> yes
1577. # [13:17] <glandium> can you hand out gtest-port.o ?
1578. # [13:17] <decoder> yep, one sec
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1580. # [13:17] <decoder> http://users.own-hero.net/~decoder/gtest-port.o
1581. # [13:18] <glandium> and the result of objdump -tC libxul.so | grep testing::internal::BoolFromGTestEnv
1582. # [13:18] <decoder> glandium: no result
1583. # [13:20] <glandium> decoder: even the libxul.so in the gtest directory?
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1585. # [13:21] <decoder> oh.. *double checks*
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1588. # [13:22] <decoder> objdir-ff-asan64dbg/dist/lib/gtest$ objdump -tC libxul.so | grep testing::internal::BoolFromGTestEnv
1589. # [13:22] <decoder> 000000000426c270 l F .text 00000000000000cd .hidden testing::internal::BoolFromGTestEnv(char const*, bool)
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1599. # [13:26] <decoder> glandium: kcc says:
1600. # [13:26] <decoder> 13:29 <kcc> strange. I would expect that this would simply not link, because asan run-time also defines its operator new/delete and they are linked into the main binary
1601. # [13:26] <decoder> 13:29 <kcc> anyway, I'd just disable this code under #ifdef ADDRESS_SANITIZER
1602. # [13:28] <glandium> decoder: can you rebuild gtest-port.o with -O0, rebuild the gtest libxul.so and get a new trace?
1603. # [13:28] <glandium> (and send the new gtest-port.o as well as the output of the objdump command from earlier)
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1605. # [13:29] <decoder> glandium: shall I just make a new build with -O0 in cflags? or can I do that rebuilding directly somehow?
1606. # [13:30] <glandium> decoder: whichever you prefer ; you can rebuild just that one object file manually
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1608. # [13:32] * decoder tries that
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1610. # [13:35] <decoder> glandium: I rebuilt the .o file.. now do I just delete toolkit/library/libgtest/libxul.so and rerun build?
1611. # [13:35] <decoder> or how do I rebuild the gtest libxul?
1612. # [13:35] <glandium> decoder: make check should rebuild it
1613. # [13:36] <decoder> trying..
1614. # [13:36] <glandium> decoder: or you can try make -C objdir/toolkit/library gtestxul
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1616. # [13:38] <decoder> glandium: deleted it, then that worked :)
1617. # [13:38] <decoder> linking now, then ill rerun the test
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1627. # [13:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbd6b352f01c - Peter Chang - Bug 758845 - Enable Skia on B2G, r=gw280
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1634. # [13:49] <darktrojan> oh goody
1635. # [13:49] <darktrojan> OOM linking libxul
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1637. # [13:50] <mstange> smaugAfk: ping
1638. # [13:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ca4c769b8baf - Randell Jesup - Bug 880879: re-land changes lost in the original merge of bug 880879 rs=jesup,derf
1639. # [13:52] <decoder> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2707294
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1641. # [13:52] <decoder> looks like it didnt improve
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1643. # [13:52] <decoder> glandium: the #1 frame here unsymbolized is this btw:
1644. # [13:52] <decoder> #1 0x2aafc7f22132 (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6+0x98132)
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1652. # [13:56] <glandium> decoder: i wasn't expecting much of an improvement
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1654. # [13:57] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: any idea why you and others started starring to 896965 for failures like the bc here: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=6cdf4912cf15&tree=Birch ?
1655. # [13:57] <glandium> decoder: although it does seem weird
1656. # [13:57] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: doesn't appear to be related
1657. # [13:58] <RyanVM> gfritzsche: presumably operating under the assumption that the various recent CTP oranges were all related
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1659. # [13:58] <gfritzsche> ah, i see. doesn't look like it at first glance
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1662. # [13:59] <glandium> decoder: huh, this looks weird... we're not actually building gtest-port.o, but gtest-all.o
1663. # [14:00] <glandium> decoder: where did you get that gtest-port.o you gave me?
1664. # [14:00] <decoder> glandium: from the objdir?
1665. # [14:00] <decoder> decoder@malphas:/srv/repos/browser/mozilla-central/objdir-ff-asan64dbg$ find . | grep gtest-port
1666. # [14:00] <decoder> ./media/webrtc/trunk/testing/gtest_gtest/gtest/src/gtest-port.o
1667. # [14:00] <glandium> ah webrtc
1668. # [14:00] <glandium> wrong copy
1669. # [14:00] <decoder> oh sorry
1670. # [14:01] <glandium> although that could be part of the problem
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1672. # [14:01] <decoder> do you need another file?
1673. # [14:01] <decoder> gtest-all?
1674. # [14:01] <glandium> rebuild gtest-all.o with -O0
1675. # [14:01] <glandium> under testing/gtest
1676. # [14:01] <decoder> okay :) and also libxul again I assume?
1677. # [14:01] <glandium> yup
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1679. # [14:02] <decoder> ok relinking..
1680. # [14:02] <decoder> always takes a while :/
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1682. # [14:07] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: do you want to file a fresh bug for the "event.target.location is null" ones?
1683. # [14:07] <RyanVM> you can otherwise ;)
1684. # [14:07] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: as long as you'll fix it for correct TBPL matching afterwards... ;)
1685. # [14:07] <RyanVM> sure, CC me
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1691. # [14:13] <gfritzsche> RyanVM: bug 897935
1692. # [14:13] <RyanVM> danke
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1696. # [14:15] <gfritzsche> de rien
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1698. # [14:15] <RyanVM> gfritzsche: looks like you did just fine :)
1699. # [14:15] <RyanVM> tbpl sees and suggests it for the log in the bug :)
1700. # [14:16] <Tomcat> :)
1701. # [14:16] <gfritzsche> nice, got lucky i guess :)
1702. # [14:17] <decoder> glandium: i assume you want another trace now? :)
1703. # [14:17] <glandium> decoder: indeed :)
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1707. # [14:18] <RyanVM> Tomcat: edmorley: have you noticed your browser getting significantly more sluggish than usual by the end of the day?
1708. # [14:19] <RyanVM> say in the last week or so
1709. # [14:20] <decoder> glandium: the trace didnt change.. but the missing frame #1 is from libstdc++ anyway. or were you looking for something else?
1710. # [14:20] <RyanVM> edmorley: thanks for filing the slow-loading tbpl bug, btw - I've definitely been seeing that too
1711. # [14:21] <RyanVM> edmorley: maybe that explains the sluggishness too (just having to deal with much higher volume of data than usual)
1712. # [14:21] <edmorley> yeah
1713. # [14:21] <edmorley> either way gzip compression would help
1714. # [14:21] <edmorley> just finding out by how much locally (size not time, since unfair comparison)
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1718. # [14:22] <RyanVM> bah, you just need a faster connection then ;)
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1721. # [14:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ddd0098739f7 - Markus Stange - Bug 897260 - Don't go through DispatchMouseEvent when sending hit test events. r=jimm
1722. # [14:23] <glandium> decoder: can you show the new trace?
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1727. # [14:24] <decoder> glandium: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2707485
1728. # [14:24] <decoder> thats unsymbolized and symbolized
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1731. # [14:30] <glandium> decoder: you should be able to get the libstdc++ symbol if you install the debug package
1732. # [14:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ed869796922 - Mark Finkle - Bug 897505 - crash in java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.BrowserApp6.onBitmapFound(BrowserApp.java) r=sriram
1733. # [14:31] <glandium> decoder: but anyways, that's the kind of thing we can't do anything about, except changing how we hook things up with asan
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1735. # [14:32] <decoder> glandium: do you agree with kcc that we should disable our own new/delete implementation when building with ASan? and if so, where would be start with that?
1736. # [14:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/228b12161e1d - Alexander Surkov - Bug 893166 - getTextBeforeOffset line end fails on wrapped lines, r=tbsaunde
1737. # [14:32] <decoder> then I can file a bug
1738. # [14:32] * simone|away is now known as simone
1739. # [14:32] <decoder> and we can get some movement on it
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1741. # [14:33] <glandium> decoder: start with mozalloc.h
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1743. # [14:34] <Tomcat> decoder: btw finally sent that asan mail
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1745. # [14:35] <decoder> Tomcat: just saw it, thx! regarding windows, we dont have asan on windows yet, but rforbes is working on getting some asan-like replacement to work that chrome uses
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1749. # [14:37] <decoder> glandium: okay. ill just wrap an #ifndef MOZ_ASAN around it and see what happens
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1751. # [14:37] <glandium> decoder: it might just work with that alone
1752. # [14:38] <Optimizer1> is this the correct order : keydown -> keypress -> keyup ?
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1755. # [14:40] <RyanVM> so...Ubuntu debug Jetpack is perma-orange
1756. # [14:40] <edmorley> lol
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1758. # [14:40] <edmorley> we had a green on 0a8a8ee6daab inbound
1759. # [14:40] <edmorley> albeit only 1 of 3
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1765. # [14:44] <RyanVM> I <3 Jetpack
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1770. # [14:47] <RyanVM> i guess I'll do the backout honors
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1774. # [14:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f58c42394fe - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 489046125fa6 (bug 897683) due to Ubuntu debug Jetpack perma-orange.
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1779. # [14:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e27eaf8ebc2 - Mats Palmgren - Bug 868327 - Only allow the drop-down menu to open above the combobox if there is room for it, otherwise open it below even though it doesn't fit. r=roc
1780. # [14:52] <decoder> glandium: im getting errors like this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2707645
1781. # [14:52] <decoder> is that due to the fallible there?
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1783. # [14:53] <glandium> decoder: looks like so
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1787. # [14:54] <decoder> glandium: would it work to provide that definition but call the regular new instead of malloc?
1788. # [14:55] <decoder> or would you use a different approach?
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1795. # [14:59] <glandium> decoder: it should work
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1803. # [15:04] <decoder> glandium: okay.. building now :)
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1807. # [15:05] <Gijs> How do I tell mozilla-build which version of the Windows SDK to use?
1808. # [15:05] * jchen|away is now known as jchen
1809. # [15:05] <Gijs> Using the SDK configuration tool thing tells me I don't have VS2005 or 2008 installed
1810. # [15:05] <decoder> overall, maybe this also solves the other alloc-dealloc problems and we can turn on these checks again to find the real flaws there
1811. # [15:05] <Gijs> which is correct, but I do have 2010 and 2012 :\
1812. # [15:06] <decoder> glandium: i just hope people arent relying on the fact that our operator new is malloc-backed and explicitly moz_free that memory later
1813. # [15:06] <decoder> that would cause a mismatch then under asan with the new code
1814. # [15:06] <glandium> decoder: that would be bugs to file
1815. # [15:06] <decoder> good :)
1816. # [15:06] <glandium> decoder: we've had those in the past, but they should be fixed
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1819. # [15:13] <Yoric> ttaubert: ping
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1821. # [15:17] <decoder> Tomcat: do you guys need to produce your builds on your own or can you also just use nightly builds from tbpl?
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1823. # [15:18] <ttaubert> Yoric: pong
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1825. # [15:18] <Yoric> ttaubert: I'm applying the changes to the nsIWebProgressListener at the moment.
1826. # [15:18] <Yoric> What do you think we should do if we are changing location inside a document?
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1828. # [15:19] <Yoric> I guess we still need to invalidate (at least for v1) as this alters history, shouldn't we?
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1831. # [15:20] <avih> tn: so what do you suggest to do with bug 888899?
1832. # [15:20] <ttaubert> Yoric: inside a document? I don't understand
1833. # [15:20] <avih> Bebe: same ^
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1835. # [15:20] <avih> oops, BenWa^ same
1836. # [15:20] <Bebe> :P
1837. # [15:20] <avih> :)
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1839. # [15:20] <Yoric> ttaubert: You want me to use onLocationChange.
1840. # [15:20] <Yoric> This is fired also when we move anchors.
1841. # [15:21] <ttaubert> ah
1842. # [15:21] <ttaubert> Yoric: sounds like the right thing to do is to invalidate, yeah
1843. # [15:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8de6a56d2797 - Jon Coppeard - Bug 896540 - GC: Convert JS_SetProperty* to take MutableHandleValue - browser changes r=bz
1844. # [15:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60f09edcad4f - Jon Coppeard - Bug 896540 - GC: Convert JS_SetProperty* to take MutableHandleValue - js/src changes r=terrence
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1848. # [15:23] <Yoric> ttaubert: We'll see in v2 if we can improve this.
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1850. # [15:23] <@smaugAfk> Gijs: I have no idea what caused it
1851. # [15:23] <@smaugAfk> something recent
1852. # [15:23] <ttaubert> Yoric: we can definitely invalidate less than the whole history, but yeah v1
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1854. # [15:24] <@smaug> mstange: pong
1855. # [15:24] <mstange> smaug: hi
1856. # [15:25] <mstange> smaug: there's currently no optimization that avoids calling GetFrameForPoint for events for which there is no event listener, right?
1857. # [15:25] <mstange> smaug: for example for NS_MOUSE_MOZHITTEST
1858. # [15:25] <@smaug> mstange: not sure I understand the question
1859. # [15:26] <@smaug> but the answer is no, there are no such optimizations :)
1860. # [15:26] <mstange> smaug: alright :)
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1862. # [15:26] <mstange> I'll explain the problem fwiw
1863. # [15:26] <mstange> there's a small performance problem with sending NS_MOUSE_MOZHITTEST with Australis
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1865. # [15:27] <mstange> the events are sent for Windows WM_NCHITTEST events
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1867. # [15:27] <mstange> and their slowest part is the nsLayoutUtils::GetFrameForPoint part
1868. # [15:27] <mstange> and we wondered whether we could delay setting the event listener until after the window has been shown
1869. # [15:28] <mstange> and whether that would speed up WM_NCHITTEST during window construction / showing
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1875. # [15:29] * @smaug wonders why we need MozMouseHittest
1876. # [15:29] <mstange> smaug: do you understand my problem?
1877. # [15:29] <mstange> oh
1878. # [15:29] <mstange> Windows needs to know whether the pixel under the mouse should show the system menu, for example
1879. # [15:29] <mstange> or whether dragging at this point should drag the window, and use Aero snap behavior, for example
1880. # [15:30] <mstange> it's not clear yet why it sends these events during window showing
1881. # [15:30] <mstange> we considered ignoring the native events at the widget level until the window has been painted at least once
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1883. # [15:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0b3f53c36016 - Mike de Boer - Bug 890690 - Add postDataString property to nsISearchSubmission. r=gavin
1884. # [15:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e499b8afbdc6 - Mina Almasry - Bug 734861 - Expose stylesheets, including UA, for a document via inIDOMUtils. r=bz
1885. # [15:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed851bbfe997 - James Kitchener - Bug 885289 - Improve context menu behaviour for srcdoc iframes. r=mconley, r=bz
1886. # [15:31] <@smaug> mstange: so for some reason OS triggers dispatching MozMouseHittest even before the window is visible?
1887. # [15:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/63e6f23138fe - Arnaud Bienner - Bug 875753 - Color input: Gtk widget. r=karlt
1888. # [15:31] <mstange> smaug: exactly
1889. # [15:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/658e5f8a8daf - Mike de Boer - Bug 890690 - Add unit test for POST search engines in about:home. r=gavin
1890. # [15:31] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3448b7a9d7a5 - Mike de Boer - Bug 890690 - Support POST searches in about:home. r=gavin
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1893. # [15:32] <@smaug> mstange: I'd just disable dispatching MozMouseHittest if the window isn't visible
1894. # [15:32] <@smaug> would that work?
1895. # [15:32] <mstange> good
1896. # [15:32] <mstange> yes, I think so
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1898. # [15:32] <mstange> thanks :)
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1902. # [15:34] <Tomcat> hm decoder i think producing own build would be cool in terms of debugger etc
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1904. # [15:34] <Tomcat> and stack
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1916. # [15:37] <Yoric> ttaubert: onLocationChange doesn't seem to be called in that test.
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1921. # [15:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f097f7ae11d - Simon Sapin - Bug 887741 - Allow CSS at-rules in declaration lists. r=dbaron
1922. # [15:40] <decoder> Tomcat: you dont need debugger with asan builds..
1923. # [15:40] <decoder> in fact it wont work
1924. # [15:40] <decoder> you need to parse the asan output instead
1925. # [15:40] <Yoric> ttaubert: So, I guess I can either use onStatusChange, as I did previously, or tweak the test until it actually waits for onLocationChange to be called before calling undoCloseTab.
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1927. # [15:41] <Yoric> Which strategy do you prefer?
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1930. # [15:41] <ttaubert> Yoric: don't you need to wait for the SessionStore:loadStart message anyway?
1931. # [15:41] <Yoric> Not for the moment.
1932. # [15:41] <glob> Optimizer1, do you use a webmail client?
1933. # [15:42] <Yoric> But that's probably a tad fragile, so I can add this.
1934. # [15:42] <ttaubert> Yoric: that would then be the same as with DOMSessionStorage
1935. # [15:42] <Optimizer1> glob: normal gmail.com
1936. # [15:42] <Yoric> Ok, let's try that.
1937. # [15:42] <glob> Optimizer1, weird
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1940. # [15:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ca2df74bd97b - Brendan Dahl - Bug 894576 - Lower the priority of the notification bar to INFO. r=yury, a=lsblakk
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1949. # [15:48] <NeilAway> Gijs: I thought you used MOZ_MAXWINSDK_VER or some such
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1953. # [15:49] <Gijs> NeilAway: yeah, found it... but now I still get more build errors, so I'm off to download more stuff
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1955. # [15:49] * Gijs is trying to switch to VS2010
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1960. # [15:51] <Tomcat> ah ok
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1966. # [15:56] <reyre> how do i go about creating a service in JS? and how would i call that from C++? CallGetService()?
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1969. # [15:57] <jdm> reyre: example: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/nsLoginManager.js and do_GetService
1970. # [15:57] <jdm> reyre: relevant code: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/nsLoginManager.js#632 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/nsLoginManager.js#53
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1972. # [15:58] <Yoric> ttaubert: Strangely, even after one second, it hasn't called onLocationChange.
1973. # [15:58] <Yoric> reyre: Services are just normal XPCOM components.
1974. # [15:58] <Yoric> From C++, you can get them with do_GetService().
1975. # [15:58] <jdm> reyre: then you need http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/passwordmgr.manifest as well
1976. # [15:58] <Yoric> reyre: See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/How_to_Build_an_XPCOM_Component_in_Javascript or https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Code_snippets/JS_XPCOM, too.
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1978. # [15:59] <ttaubert> Yoric: hum.
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1987. # [16:02] <reyre> jdm, Yoric: okay cool. thanks. i think i have most of this stuff in place, but have been using CallGetService() instead of do_GetService()
1988. # [16:02] <Yoric> ttaubert: (so yes, the test pretends to work, but the wait actually timeouts)
1989. # [16:02] <Yoric> reyre: Cool.
1990. # [16:03] <reyre> Yoric: if i want a 'module' in the contractID would i define that in the moz.build file where the IDLs are listed?
1991. # [16:03] <reyre> like MODULE = 'name'
1992. # [16:04] <Yoric> I haven't been following moz.build closely enough, I am afraid.
1993. # [16:04] <Yoric> I seem to remember that you don't need anything to have a 'module' in the contractID, though.
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1995. # [16:04] <decoder> glandium: that actually compiled.. and i might only need the four last definitions in mozalloc actually.. those do the fallible stuff
1996. # [16:05] <reyre> Yoric: okay thanks
1997. # [16:05] <decoder> glandium: seeing a lot of failures now though on make check (asan errors detected)
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2004. # [16:10] <reyre> jdm, Yoric: are there any specific functions that i need to define in the JS XPCOM component to make this work? or it's literally just like a regular component like you said Yoric?
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2013. # [16:12] <Yoric> ttaubert: On the other hand, I do receive STATE_TRANSFERRING, STATE_IS_REQUEST, STATE_IS_DOCUMENT.
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2019. # [16:18] <Yoric> ttaubert: Ah, might be related to the fact that the test itself is running in onLocationChange.
2020. # [16:18] <padenot> 0/b 47
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2022. # [16:18] <Yoric> reyre: I don't remember, but go ahead ahd try for yourself :)
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2024. # [16:18] <reyre> Yoric: okay, heh, thanks :)
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2028. # [16:19] <glosoli> a bit of topic... but can't find anyone else to help.. any of english speaking people can help me understand the question "Are you currently engaged in any other business either as a proprietor, partner, officer, director, trustee and agent or otherwise?" does it ask if I am part of some business, or does it ask if I am employed anywhere
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2032. # [16:24] <jdm> glosoli: it's referring to more specialized roles than just employee
2033. # [16:24] <jdm> positions of leadership or partnership, as far as I can tell
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2036. # [16:24] <glosoli> jdm: thanks! :)
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2062. # [16:44] <decoder> glandium: success! make check passed. i think im going to make a try push with that change and see what the other test suites have to say. If it works, ill file a bug and flag you for review if thats ok.
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2066. # [16:45] <firebot> Check-in:
2067. # [16:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d78022c9d69c - Armen Zambrano Gasparnian - Bug 713055. Match talos.json's suites to mozilla-tests/config.py before enabling talos mozharness just in case we push this branch to try. DONTBUILD. r=jmaher
2068. # [16:46] <firebot> a=testing
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2076. # [16:50] <decoder> glandium: one test in make check actually fails. and it seems to be what we discussed earlier
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2078. # [16:50] <decoder> in StartupCache::GetBuffer there is
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2080. # [16:50] <decoder> *outbuf = new char[entry->size];
2081. # [16:50] <decoder> it's freed later on
2082. # [16:50] <decoder> thats probably a bug
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2109. # [17:03] <botond> Does anyone know what implements nsIBrowserDOMWindow? Eclipse and DXR turn up nothing.
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2112. # [17:05] <dvander_> botond: browser.js
2113. # [17:06] <whimboo> does anyone know a way to check for which URL a nsIHTTPChannel is for?
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2115. # [17:08] <Yoric> ttaubert: Never mind, I was passing the wrong options when registering my nsIWebProgressListener.
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2118. # [17:09] <botond> dvander_: An interface can be implemented by JS? Where can I read up on how that works?
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2120. # [17:11] <dvander_> botond: yeah xpconnect/xpcom lets you do that. it's like microsoft's COM
2121. # [17:11] <dvander_> botond: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XPConnect
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2125. # [17:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cf03ffaa23cc - Alexander Surkov - Bug 894547 - move tests abstraction up for at caret offset text testing, r=tbsaunde
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2127. # [17:13] <bsmedberg> "Your incident INC0011585 has been resolved and will automatically close in 24 hours." But... I resolved it! Why wouldn't it just go away now, instead of waiting 24 hours.
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2146. # [17:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5005e426f324 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset ed851bbfe997 (bug 885289) for mochitest-bc orange.
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2148. # [17:24] <arky> Can someone help figure out what's wrong here: ownloading https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.9.8.tar.gz#md5=243076241781935f7fcad370195a4291
2149. # [17:24] <arky> error: Can't download https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.9.8.tar.gz: 404 Not Found
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2151. # [17:25] <bsmedberg> arky: well, the file doesn't exist ;-) Is this a question related to Mozilla?
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2153. # [17:25] <jdm> curious
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2155. # [17:26] <Ms2ger> I thought setuptools was up to 0.6 or 7
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2157. # [17:26] <arky> bsmedberg, Ms2ger Building b2g and it fails at /populate_virtualenv.py" stage
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2165. # [17:28] <arky> bsmedberg, jdm Ms2ger : Full log http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2708460
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2170. # [17:29] <arky> Ah! No module named _sysconfigdata_nd
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2180. # [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/579445e5d533 - Scott Johnson - Bug 743402, Part 6: Add unit tests for functionality of bug 743402. [r=roc]
2181. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/993dc8e10a42 - Scott Johnson - Bug 743402, Part 5: Utilize new computed height calculations in nsSplittableFrame to correctly compute the height of a column set frame in paginated context. [r=roc]
2182. # [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/352501d3f390 - Scott Johnson - Bug 743402, Part 4: Refactor ApplySkipSides() and GetSkipSides() to return the correct value during reflow by adding an optional nsHTMLReflowState parameter. [r=roc]
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2188. # [17:33] <firebot> previous-in-flows. [r=roc]
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2199. # [17:39] <arky> Can someone help me with 'No module named buildconfig' python path issue http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2708523
2200. # [17:39] <dhylands> dell.ca
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2207. # [17:43] <past> can anyone explain why would "mach xpcshell-test toolkit/devtools/server/tests/unit/test_blackboxing-01.js" assert on a debug build locally, but work on buildbot?
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2209. # [17:44] <past> "Assertion failure: parent, at /Users/past/src/fx-team/js/src/jswrapper.cpp:29"
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2213. # [17:46] <past> observed on 3 different machines (Linux, Mac) by 2 people
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2218. # [17:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/619da1470dea - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 895711 - Mark new touches in touchstart as changed in HandleEventInner. r=smaug
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2221. # [17:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5c0c3037810 - Matt Brubeck - Bug 897590 - Metro Find bar disappears on keydown [r=ally]
2222. # [17:52] <mstange> yay!
2223. # [17:52] <mstange> oops
2224. # [17:52] <mstange> wrong window
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2236. # [17:59] <bsmedberg> Yoric: I believe unicode is fixed in the weekly-updats site
2237. # [18:00] <mbrubeck> past: My only guess is that the test starts in a different state when you run it standalone like that, rather than in the middle of the entire xpcshell suite.
2238. # [18:01] <mbrubeck> (You could test that by seeing if it passes when you run just "mach xpcshell-test" with no other arguments)
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2243. # [18:03] <past> hm, I'm usually running all tests in toolkit/devtools, but I haven't tried all tests
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2246. # [18:04] <edmorley> zimbra down?
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2251. # [18:06] <till> edmorley: not for me
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2255. # [18:06] <edmorley> https://mail.mozilla.com/ -> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at mail.mozilla.com.
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2257. # [18:07] <edmorley> till: are you at an office?
2258. # [18:07] <till> edmorley: no
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2270. # [18:16] <past> mbrubeck: nope, still asserts if I run all the tests (mach or make), and it's actually more than one test
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2275. # [18:19] <arky> Can someone help me with 'No module named buildconfig' python path issue http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2708523
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2312. # [18:34] <mbrubeck> past: So much for that theory. Is this a fatal assertion, or just something that gets logged to the console?
2313. # [18:35] <past> it causes the tests to fail
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2320. # [18:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b4c4450fd7bf - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 0b3f53c36016 (bug 890690) for failures in browser_contextSearchTabPosition.js on a CLOSED TREE
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2331. # [18:42] <tn> avih, i don't think i have strong feelings on the matter either way
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2335. # [18:44] <avih> tn: i see. so basically you think having separate frame_rate to be used as limit and vsync on/off for blocking when possible would not be terrible for the foreseeable future?
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2338. # [18:45] <tn> avih, i'm okay with it, perhaps there are other people who feel more strongly on this matter though?
2339. # [18:45] <avih> tn: and what would the other way be, btw? a pref for ASAP which overrides any other frame_rate/vsync prefs?
2340. # [18:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/21f094a18c5c - Monica Chew - Bug 837199 - Write interface to query application reputation (r=paolo,sr=mossop)
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2342. # [18:45] <avih> tn: yes, i do want to hear oppinions, tried to get from bas and benwa, but they're not really around this week
2343. # [18:46] <tn> avih, yeah i guess. using 10000 or whatever seems like kind of a hack. if we want to support this as fast as possible way we should make it explicit
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2346. # [18:46] <avih> tn: if you got others who could have useful opinion on this, by all means ask/cc/let me know, etc
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2349. # [18:48] <avih> tn: i do get the advantage os the asap mode approach, the cons to me is that it's an override, so implicitly it affects those other prefs which we'd probably have anyway, so it has some redundancy
2350. # [18:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8bd7834b9913 - Gavin Sharp - Bug 897729: Back out bug 723163 (a215de599e7f) due to it having caused bug 888839, a=lsblakk
2351. # [18:48] <tn> avih, did you solicit jeff's opinion?
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2353. # [18:49] <tn> avih, if you make it clear in the pref name i think that's fine, something like forceASAPmode
2354. # [18:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/01824dc4f1ba - Dan Gohman - Bug 881390 - IonMonkey: Hoist floating-point constants out of loops. r=h4writer
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2356. # [18:49] <avih> tn: yeah, we all have the same reservation basically. myself included. though i guess IMO the non-redundant approach is very slightly better.
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2361. # [18:52] <tn> avih, with the non-redundant mode we can switch the prefs into a way that doesn't make a lot of sense though?
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2368. # [18:52] <avih> tn: we could have combinations that are not ultra clear, but ultimately make sense. that's the con of this approach.
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2370. # [18:53] <mwu> gw280: is skia enabled on android now?
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2372. # [18:53] <avih> tn: line frame_rate=-1 (-> vsync rate on some systems) while vsync=false, so non-blocking. or yes blocking and some non-vsync rate, which would.. work..-ish :)
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2374. # [18:54] <avih> like*
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2380. # [18:57] <gw280> mwu: yes
2381. # [18:58] <gw280> but only for nvidia
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2388. # [18:58] <mwu> gw280: hmm.. so pchang turning it on in gonk will actually have an effect?
2389. # [18:59] <avih> tn: also, as much as using 10k sounds like a hack, and in a way it is, it has the advantage of being legitimate. while adding an ASAP mode would probably require more code paths on some places, 10k doesn't, since it works normally through existing paths
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2396. # [19:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ecaf40de72f - Wan-Teh Chang - Bug 888273: Update NSPR to NSPR_4_10_1_BETA1 to pick up the bug fix.
2397. # [19:00] <jmontgomery> hi, I'm trying to create a new xul browser element from an addon but when I do, it doesn't have any methods (like loadURI). Does anyone know why this might be?
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2399. # [19:00] <tn> avih, it also doesn't always work, which is why we need the patch from bug 888899 right?
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2406. # [19:03] <avih> tn: it works, but different platforms have different methods, and on osx it's a bit messy. if -1 could mean, and actually work - as use the monitor's refresh rate, then we wouldn't have this issue.
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2413. # [19:04] <avih> tn: also, we could declare some arbitrarily high value of frame_rate as a threshold for ASAP mode. this is ugly, but wouldn't require another pref
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2415. # [19:05] <avih> and will also solve all our problems which we know today
2416. # [19:05] <bbondy> The windows bc failures here are known and unrelated to my push right? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=fb49aac760d3 I can't tell from the linked bug.
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2419. # [19:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ea4f07c6a90d - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 898002 - Ignore synthesized touch events. r=marcoz
2420. # [19:06] <Yoric> bsmedberg: Ah, good.
2421. # [19:06] <avih> tn: another approach, take the ASAP mode approach, but internally just use it to override frame_rate to 10k, and on osx also use non-blocking swap
2422. # [19:06] <tn> avih, all solutions seem ugly, so i'm not too excited about any one in particular, if the one we choose turns out to be worse we can change it later i guess
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2425. # [19:07] <avih> tn: very much agreed that all solutions are ugly. which is why i asked for fedback on this.
2426. # [19:07] <avih> if there's a clean one, i don't care how many prefs it uses.
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2436. # [19:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5882b593646a - Guillaume Abadie - bug 896601 - WebGL draw commands overflow - r=bjacob
2437. # [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1514cf837dbe - James Kitchener - Bug 885289 - Improve context menu behaviour for srcdoc iframes. r=mconley, r=bz
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2441. # [19:15] <mayhemer> khuey|away: ping
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2445. # [19:16] <efaust> bz: ping
2446. # [19:17] <mjrosenb|ARM> !seen jandem
2447. # [19:17] <firebot> jandem was last seen 19 hours, 20 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying 'no as part of make check (B)' in #jsapi.
2448. # [19:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d8c0cdc0bc22 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 869940 - APZC Metro front end implementation, pref'ed off initially. r=jimm
2449. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/692b48b7c022 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 869940 - Fix selection when APZC is enabled. r=jimm
2450. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/37e9bb9ca6f2 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 869940 - Implement pan start/end notifications from APZC. r=kats
2451. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a8926881a44 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 869940 - APZC Metro winrt implementation. r=jimm
2452. # [19:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cab7b1a00897 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 869940 - Fix scaling issue with high dpi devices. r=kats
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2454. # [19:18] <bz> efaust: ack
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2456. # [19:18] <efaust> bz: have a moment to chat about this regression thing?
2457. # [19:18] <bz> efaust: sure
2458. # [19:19] <bz> efaust: btw, I can totally believe it's not you
2459. # [19:19] <efaust> bz: so, I admit that there aren't any other likely candidates in that regression range, though
2460. # [19:19] <bz> efaust: your patch just looked like the least long shot
2461. # [19:19] <bz> efaust: ok
2462. # [19:19] <bz> efaust: I suppose the range could be wrong, too....
2463. # [19:20] <efaust> bz: I thought maybe it was the one you reviewed for the guy from adobe? But I don't really understand the implications
2464. # [19:20] <efaust> bz: my problem is that I don't know what it actually tests? selector matching, right?
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2466. # [19:21] <Ms2ger> A benchmark? Who knows what it's actually testing...
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2468. # [19:21] <bz> efaust: dromaeo-css tests basically the performance of various JS library methods
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2470. # [19:21] <bz> efaust: the button reflow patch is not likely to affect those
2471. # [19:21] * efaust nods
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2473. # [19:22] <bz> efaust: it could just be noise....
2474. # [19:22] <efaust> but neither is changing some css ;)
2475. # [19:22] <bz> efaust: indeed
2476. # [19:22] <bz> efaust: dromaeo-css has nothing to do with css
2477. # [19:22] <bz> efaust: yay benchmarks. ;)
2478. # [19:22] <efaust> how helpful -_-
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2483. # [19:23] <efaust> bz: I have one other patch that landed like...3 revisisions from that window, that I was a little interested in the perf implications of, though I expect it will also be fine. I can do a similar backout try run of that, if it makes people feel better?
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2489. # [19:24] <efaust> bz: I worry about calling it noise as the analysis tool saw a drop in std dev, and I got "new looking" numbers immediately
2490. # [19:24] <efaust> so, if it's noise, it's very consistent noise :P
2491. # [19:24] <bz> efaust: hmmm
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2493. # [19:25] <bz> efaust: I guess if we can reproduce this on try we could try bisecting there or something
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2496. # [19:25] <efaust> bz: none of those revisions interfere with each other, so at least we can back all of them out and ship it to try to test our window. If it's wrong, then we'll have to do something a little more careful.
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2498. # [19:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6177eb51fede - Nathan Froyd - Bug 898016 - delete unused evlen variable in EventFilter::Build; r=mayhemer
2499. # [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e110da5fee57 - Nathan Froyd - Bug 898015 - delete unused gStopFlushingThread variable in VisualEventTracer.cpp; r=mayhemer
2500. # [19:27] <efaust> on one hand, I'm glad it's not me, but on the other, I was kinda willing to fight for accessor inlining and blame our heuristics, so it's a shame to have ot keep looking.
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2513. # [19:32] <gw280> mwu: probably!
2514. # [19:33] <mwu> well, I already asked him to back out
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2516. # [19:33] <mwu> we sort of but don't really work on tegra
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2523. # [19:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/411082e7dc9c - Terrence Cole - Bug 890048 - Fix rooting of the findReferences shell command; r=jimb,billm
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2525. # [19:39] <froydnj> is the inbound bustage being addressed?
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2527. # [19:39] <froydnj> RyanVM: ^ ?
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2529. # [19:40] <efaust> "Some committer in Madagascar just sneezed" ;)
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2531. # [19:40] <RyanVM> mmmm...Werror
2532. # [19:41] <RyanVM> hmm, no sign of mmc
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2538. # [19:42] <Ms2ger> efaust, Madagascar closed its ports
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2554. # [19:48] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7f851c990a3c - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 21f094a18c5c (bug 837199) for Werror bustage.
2555. # [19:49] <avih> RyanVM: honza doesn't have any info on bug 858737. i think we should RESOLVED INVALID and then reopen if it returns. what say you?
2556. # [19:50] <RyanVM> sure
2557. # [19:50] <RyanVM> WFM, though
2558. # [19:50] <avih> RyanVM: or, maybe better, resolved fixed, where the fix is probably some revision which we can't point at explicitly
2559. # [19:50] <RyanVM> that what WORKSFORME is explicitly for ;)
2560. # [19:50] <avih> right :)
2561. # [19:50] <avih> i'll do that :)
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2563. # [19:52] <tbsaunde> 0/win 20
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2568. # [19:53] <@khuey> mayhemer: pong
2569. # [19:54] <mayhemer> khuey: hi, one small question
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2572. # [19:54] <mayhemer> khuey: why doesn't the code at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/glue/nsISupportsImpl.h#400 ensure stabilization before destruction?
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2576. # [19:55] <mayhemer> khuey: it was introduced in bug 700512
2577. # [19:55] <mmc> hi ryanvm
2578. # [19:55] <@khuey> because stabilization is evil
2579. # [19:55] <RyanVM> mmc: hi, backed out already :(
2580. # [19:55] <mmc> is there a difference between Werror treatment on try and inbound?
2581. # [19:55] <RyanVM> shouldn't be
2582. # [19:55] <mmc> thank you for backing it out
2583. # [19:56] <mmc> i am confused, because i did not see these on try :(
2584. # [19:56] <RyanVM> when did you run it through Try? Is it possible that Werror was set more recently?
2585. # [19:56] <mmc> last night
2586. # [19:56] <RyanVM> hmm
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2588. # [19:56] <mmc> i did manually merge some makefile changes though, before pushing
2589. # [19:56] <@khuey> mayhemer: the logic is roughly that the only reasonable use we've come up with for stabilization is being able to QI the object when the dtor is on the stack
2590. # [19:56] <RyanVM> FAIL_ON_WARNINGS being one of them? :)
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2592. # [19:56] <@khuey> mayhemer: and classes using this macro don't implement nsISupports
2593. # [19:57] <@khuey> FAIL_ON_WARNINGS is evil
2594. # [19:57] <@khuey> mayhemer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700512#c10
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2596. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> khuey--
2597. # [19:57] <mayhemer> khuey: I know, but something that the object calls from dtor could addref and release the object anyway and it would endup reentering the deletion process
2598. # [19:58] <mmc> no, the changes did include some changes on cpp_flags
2599. # [19:58] <mmc> but that was not one of them
2600. # [19:58] <@khuey> mayhemer: so you should fix the something the object calls to not do that
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2602. # [19:58] <@khuey> Ms2ger: hmm?
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2606. # [19:58] <mmc> i do see FAIL_+ON_WARNINGS in the makefile
2607. # [19:59] <mmc> shoot
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2611. # [20:00] <mayhemer> khuey: :) funny anser
2612. # [20:00] <mayhemer> answer
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2615. # [20:00] <mmc> it looks like dholbert added that in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4df2e13d4157
2616. # [20:00] <mmc> and that was not included in my try push
2617. # [20:00] <@khuey> dholbert--
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2631. # [20:04] <mmc> ok, well at least now the mystery is understood :)
2632. # [20:05] <mmc> and my bad for pushing to try with an old parent
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2638. # [20:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e946f8646f3c - Jim Blandy - Bug 867946 - Never return null from Proxy::className, even if we're over-recursed. r=Waldo, a=lsblakk
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2653. # [20:13] <guestish> does ff decode jpg images using gpu?
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2662. # [20:17] <RyanVM> bz?
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2666. # [20:18] <guestish> when firefox render or whatever an image in any site does it use gpu for that?
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2672. # [20:23] <NeilAway> RyanVM: I didn't notice him sneaking under the op radar ;-)
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2682. # [20:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7645c1ac2ec3 - Daniel Holbert - backing out 4df2e13d4157 (bug 891993), to prevent build bustage from warnings in a 3rd-party .h file that'll be landing in Bug 837199.
2683. # [20:29] <ialagenchev> Does someone know how I can check the try results for someone else's changeset?
2684. # [20:29] * armenzg_brb is now known as armenzg_mtg
2685. # [20:29] <ialagenchev> I want to make sure that the tip that I'm using to add my changes to is sane.
2686. # [20:30] <bholley> KWierso: just FYI - I just did a rather large push to aurora :-)
2687. # [20:30] <bholley> KWierso: I'll keep an eye on it, but have to head somewhere for a bit in about 2 hours
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2691. # [20:30] <KWierso_> bholley: okay
2692. # [20:31] <bz> ialagenchev: just push the changeset you want to test to try?
2693. # [20:32] <ialagenchev> bz: What if that person had already pushed to try?
2694. # [20:33] <ialagenchev> bz: is there a convenient way to find someone else's try submission?
2695. # [20:33] <bz> ialagenchev: sure
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2697. # [20:34] <bz> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&pusher=bzbarsky@mozilla.com
2698. # [20:34] <ialagenchev> bz: thank you
2699. # [20:34] <bz> ialagenchev: Like that, with their LDAP username
2700. # [20:34] <ialagenchev> bz: great
2701. # [20:34] <bz> ialagenchev: might have to hit the down arrow a bunch. ;)
2702. # [20:34] <ialagenchev> :-)
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2720. # [20:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/60e54ebf9ee5 - Terrence Cole - Bug 897718 - Remove unused JSAPI method JS_CallGenericTracer; r=jonco
2721. # [20:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8aadffac76bf - Terrence Cole - Bug 897724 - Fix some opt build warnings in clang; r=sfink
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2724. # [20:47] <NeilAway> bz: somehow my window.navigator is an empty JS object (no userAgent or platform or stuff) - how would you suggest I unbreak my build?
2725. # [20:47] <bz> Note
2726. # [20:47] <bz> You are not allowed to make an additional comment on this bug.
2727. # [20:48] <bz> Why would a bugzilla user who filed a bug get that?
2728. # [20:48] <bz> NeilAway: um
2729. # [20:48] <bz> NeilAway: What is window.navigator.__proto__.toString() for you?
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2732. # [20:48] <jesup> bz: perhaps some new-user anti-spam thing?
2733. # [20:48] <bz> um
2734. # [20:49] <bz> ok, but how are they supposed to respond to my needinfo request??
2735. # [20:49] <NeilAway> bz: [object NodePrototype]
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2737. # [20:49] <jesup> bz: probably there's a time lock or some such. glob?
2738. # [20:49] <jesup> glob: ^
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2742. # [20:51] <bz> NeilAway: that is clearly wrong, no?
2743. # [20:51] <bz> NeilAway: is this on all pages?
2744. # [20:51] <joe> has anybody successfully compiled with asan recently?
2745. # [20:51] <bz> NeilAway: or on a particular page?
2746. # [20:52] <joe> i just got an error with up-to-date mc; the linker says I have dynamic relocations in the read-only segment
2747. # [20:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cdf2423ff693 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 894288 - Prevent triggering an endless abort cycle when loading any tabs in the browser. r=BenWa
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2752. # [20:54] <NeilAway> bz: not just in pages, it's in chrome too
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2755. # [20:55] <NeilAway> bz: heh, if I write navigator.__proto__ = Navigator.prototype; navigator.userAgent starts working ;-)
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2759. # [20:57] <Gijs> Where am I supposed to find the redistributable files for MSVS2010? MDN suggests $VCINSTALLDIR\redist, but that directory doesn't exist
2760. # [20:58] * Gijs wonders if this is to do with the SP1 thing removing compiler files
2761. # [20:59] <Gijs> I checked in the control panel's "Programs and Features", and that does have the redistributable listed as being installed.
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2766. # [21:00] <bz> NeilAway: ok, so why the heck is your proto wrong??? ;)
2767. # [21:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f1e8ada1ddf7 - Ben Turner - Bug 894993 - 'SessionWorker takes lots of memory'. r=billm+khuey.
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2775. # [21:04] <bz> Hmm
2776. # [21:04] <bz> Bugzilla has this thing where it shows a list of viable reviewers for a bug
2777. # [21:05] <bz> Where is it getting this info
2778. # [21:05] <bz> ?
2779. # [21:05] <fabrice> bz: someone made a list
2780. # [21:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b5b43a6b50a - Daniel Holbert - Bug 875753 followup: Annotate our gtk2 'nsColorPicker' class as MOZ_FINAL to fix -Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor build warning. blanket-r=ehsan
2781. # [21:05] <bz> Ah, hardcoded?
2782. # [21:05] <fabrice> there was a post on dev.platform about that
2783. # [21:05] <bz> And it's just using the bugzilla name for display?
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2785. # [21:06] <fabrice> I *think* it's hardcoded
2786. # [21:06] <bz> (which is a good start, since that includes away info!)
2787. # [21:06] <bz> ok, thanks
2788. # [21:06] <bz> glob: ping
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2800. # [21:15] <dhylands|dr> Does anybody know how to mark a bug to be left open?
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2803. # [21:16] <sfink> dhylands|dr: I believe it's [leave open] in the whiteboard
2804. # [21:16] <jfkthame> i'd put [leave open] in the whiteboard, and also add a comment explaining why
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2806. # [21:16] <dhylands|dr> sfink, jfkthame: thanks
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2819. # [21:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/19d9842325b2 - Randell Jesup - Bug 876878: Avoid null deref if camera doesn't update framelist ptr r=bas
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2834. # [21:35] <jwir3> guh crap... I removed a test accidentally from the file system, but it's still rendered in firefox. Is there a way to pull the source of a currently rendered page (i.e. from some type of cache)?
2835. # [21:35] <jwir3> nvm... I think I found it
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2852. # [21:44] <marcoagpinto> Hey hey
2853. # [21:44] <marcoagpinto> :)
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2865. # [21:54] <Optimizer> any possible advise to make builds faster on windows
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2868. # [21:54] <Optimizer> like disable some stuff
2869. # [21:54] <Optimizer> I mainly want devtools only ..
2870. # [21:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62457edb1db5 - Sam Foster - Bug 897595 - Non-thumbnail tiles shouldn't display background-images. r=rsilveira
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2877. # [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1de22229a4f3 - Terrence Cole - Bug 887563 - Convert CallArgs::operator[] to return a Handle; r=Waldo,bz
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2884. # [21:58] <NeilAway> bz: I wish I knew :s
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2888. # [22:00] <Optimizer> bz: the domUtils.getCSSValuesForProperty has many duplicate entries
2889. # [22:01] <Optimizer> like border has "none" 2 times and likewise.
2890. # [22:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b34e30147678 - Max Li - Bug 886076 - Part 2: Support movement by granularity in AccessFu. r=eeejay
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2892. # [22:01] <Optimizer> its pretty straight forward to filter them at JS level though ...
2893. # [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/784d2686a389 - Max Li - Bug 886076 - Part 1: Implement moveNextByText and movePreviousByText in nsAccessiblePivot. r=surkov
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2899. # [22:04] <@smaug> ttaubert: any luck reproducing the leak
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2901. # [22:06] <NeilAway> bz: hmm, in some windows I'm getting really weird behaviour, like not getting addEventListener on nodes
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2903. # [22:06] <NeilAway> bz: do I just rm -rf objdir/dom/bindings and try again?
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2906. # [22:07] <ttaubert> smaug: didn't have time to try, will do now
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2908. # [22:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b376b486592b - Garrett Robinson - Bug 888172 - CSP 1.0 does not process 'unsafe-inline' or 'unsafe-eval' for default-src. r=imelven a=lsblakk
2909. # [22:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/22deaac3f9db - Garrett Robinson - Bug 885433 - CSP should not block inline scripts or eval unless script-src or default-src are included. r=imelven, a=lsblakk
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2920. # [22:15] <aja> Yoric, ttaubert: ping
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2923. # [22:15] <ttaubert> aja: pong?
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2927. # [22:16] <aja> ttaubert: i see you're working on some sessionstore async changes....in response to some bug other than perf?
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2930. # [22:17] <ttaubert> aja: which bug are you referring to?
2931. # [22:17] <aja> ttaubert: cux i'm seeing some strange sessionstore?-related thang going on lately
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2933. # [22:17] <ttaubert> aja: what exactly? did you file it? :)
2934. # [22:17] <aja> s/cux/cuz/
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2936. # [22:18] <aja> ttaubert: not filed....may be hard to repro
2937. # [22:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c8bc029b8553 - John Schoenick - Bug 874843 - Fix typo in test r=typo
2938. # [22:18] <Gijs> is TBPL not loading for anyone else?
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2940. # [22:19] <ttaubert> Gijs: a little slow maybe but wfm
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2944. # [22:19] <ttaubert> aja: so yeah, there have been a couple of async/perf related changes lately. there will be more. if you have an issue, please file it so we can look into it more
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2948. # [22:21] <aja> ttaubert: basically, i've reloaded tinderbox pushloghtml page...it updates...i download a newer build, unzip and start it...and it shows pushloghtml from before it was reloaded
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2953. # [22:22] <ttaubert> aja: hm. that's sound like something we didn't actually touch, yet. if you can reproduce it.. that would be great :)
2954. # [22:22] <aja> ttaubert: ...as if reloaded page is not being stored sometimes
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2961. # [22:24] <KWierso_> bholley: uh oh
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2963. # [22:24] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4f7c7217108a - Andrew Halberstadt - Bug 895940 - Mirror mozbase to m-c, r=jhammel
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2966. # [22:24] <aja> ttaubert: kinda figured you would wanna know about possibly existing prob prior to landing the new async changes...just a heads up, in case i can't come up with reproducible test case before then
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2971. # [22:27] <ttaubert> aja: ok, thank you. we'd definitely want to know if something like this happens. stupid question but did you turn off all your add-ons to make sure it's a Firefox problem?
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2988. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/300f5b7d72e1 - Olli Pettay - Bug 897433, Telemetry for SnowWhite and more async SnowWhite freeing, r=mccr8
2989. # [22:36] <bjacob__> i wish so hard that there were a --disable-svg
2990. # [22:36] <mccr8> yeah it takes a while to compile that directory
2991. # [22:37] <bjacob__> i think i've waited longer to compile it than i ever did waiting for svg to get rendered; so that as far as i'm concerned a naive impl would work best for me
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2994. # [22:38] <aja> ttaubert: sorry, stepped away to take food off stove. no add-ons
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2996. # [22:38] <bjacob__> Canvas 2D is basically 1 file, compiles in a few seconds... and is used literally 100x more than SVG
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3017. # [22:47] <balrog> is anyone here working on this bug? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812695
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3020. # [22:47] <bholley> KWierso_: arg
3021. # [22:47] <Yoric> aja: pong
3022. # [22:48] <dholbert> balrog, if you read the last few comments on the bug, "yes"
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3024. # [22:48] <balrog> I did look at it; I'm guessing people there have machines that can reproduce the bug.
3025. # [22:48] <@khuey> balrog: looks like jrmuizel is
3026. # [22:48] <@khuey> he's at SIGGRAPH now IIRC
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3028. # [22:49] <balrog> aah, ok
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3033. # [22:51] <aja> Yoric: see above discussion with ttaubert
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3035. # [22:51] <bholley> KWierso_: I remember running into this on central, trying to remember
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3037. # [22:52] <rhelmer> There was an error while executing `VBoxManage`, a CLI used by Vagrant
3038. # [22:52] <rhelmer> during shutdown
3039. # [22:52] <rhelmer> fff
3040. # [22:52] <rhelmer> Stderr: VBoxManage: error: The object is not ready
3041. # [22:52] <rhelmer> ok
3042. # [22:52] <rhelmer> oops sorry wrong channel /o\
3043. # [22:52] <Yoric> aja: Do you have really very many tabs, by any chance?
3044. # [22:52] <Yoric> (say 400+)
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3046. # [22:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/750c29cf4f8f - Rodrigo Silveira - Bug 897596 - Grid in snapped view display top sites and bookmarks in vertical columns r=sfoster
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3048. # [22:54] <aja> Yoric: several (may 20 or so), but nowhere near hundreds
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3050. # [22:54] <Yoric> aja: Ok, so I guess we can safely say it's not so slow to save that you may have somehow left Firefox without saving.
3051. # [22:54] <Yoric> (I mean, while the save was in progress)
3052. # [22:54] <Yoric> Mmmmh...
3053. # [22:55] <Yoric> So you clicked on the notification that told you that a new version of Firefox has been downloaded and you can now upgrade?
3054. # [22:55] <Yoric> aja: ^
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3058. # [22:56] <aja> Yoric: btw, if i reload that page, it does reflect status of links i'd clicked
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3060. # [22:57] <NeilAway> bjacob__: you've not whiled away hours on http://www.mezzacotta.net/ then ;-)
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3062. # [22:57] <aja> Yoric: no, downloaded zip, extracted it to clear directory, started
3063. # [22:57] * deian|away is now known as deian
3064. # [22:57] <Yoric> Ok, so that's not due to a weird restart.
3065. # [22:57] * corey|away is now known as corey
3066. # [22:58] <Yoric> So that really sounds like a bug.
3067. # [22:58] <aja> Yoric: perhaps shutdown issue? though it isn't zombied or anything
3068. # [22:59] <Yoric> aja: Perhaps.
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3071. # [22:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/78209b0be503 - John Schoenick - Bug 889614 - Fix regression in plugin reparenting. r=josh
3072. # [22:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef4b58b54480 - John Schoenick - Bug 889614 - Fix and cleanup plugin re-parenting tests to catch this in the future. r=josh
3073. # [23:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d600a95c1279 - John Schoenick - Bug 889614 - Fix test_object display:none checking issues found while testing. r=josh
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3075. # [23:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c434fcf6825b - Daniel Holbert - Bug 891993: Mark toolkit/components/downloads/ as FAIL_ON_WARNINGS (re-landing after backout). r=mak
3076. # [23:01] <aja> Yoric: basically just wanted to give you heads up for pre-existant issue before landing of the async sessionstore stuff
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3078. # [23:01] <Yoric> Thanks.
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3093. # [23:06] <vlad> who owns/knows indexeddb?
3094. # [23:07] * rnewman|gym is now known as rnewman
3095. # [23:07] <bjacob__> vlad: sicking ?
3096. # [23:07] <bjacob__> or bent?
3097. # [23:07] <vlad> yeah, i'd buy that
3098. # [23:08] <sicking> we have an idb module even
3099. # [23:08] <vlad> ah
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3104. # [23:09] <bholley> KWierso_: making progress, but need to grab lunch. Back me out if need be. Be back soon
3105. # [23:09] * mcomella|lunch is now known as mcomella
3106. # [23:09] <KWierso_> bholley: I don't have an aurora tree handy, so I guess you stay in for now ;)
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3109. # [23:10] <bz> glob: ping
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3111. # [23:12] <bz> man
3112. # [23:12] <bz> what's with all the pending jobs? :(
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3120. # [23:18] <vlad> sicking: sent mail, let me know if what I said sounds sane. If it does and it doesn't sound too complicated to do a proof-of-concept impl, I might try to hack it up
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3123. # [23:19] <bz> mbrubeck: ping
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3125. # [23:19] <@khuey> firebot: cid
3126. # [23:19] <firebot> {0x4dcd27be, 0x2760, 0x4a93, {0x9b, 0x47, 0xd5, 0x03, 0xd1, 0x43, 0x7d, 0x10}}
3127. # [23:19] <@khuey> firebot: botsnack
3128. # [23:19] <firebot> :)
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3135. # [23:23] <joe> aw shit, try
3136. # [23:23] <joe> have been attempting to push for many m inutes now
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3140. # [23:24] <aja> ttaubert: fyi, didn't occur this time with fx-team build i just downloaded (with promises.jsm stuff)
3141. # [23:25] <jcranmer> "
3142. # [23:25] <jcranmer> Note that this patch depends on signed integer overflow behavior in C++,
3143. # [23:25] <jcranmer> which I believe is portable despite being unspecified."
3144. # [23:25] <jcranmer> >_>
3145. # [23:25] <jcranmer> no, it's not
3146. # [23:25] <ttaubert> aja: do you remember the build id for the build that failed?
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3149. # [23:27] <dholbert> jcranmer, (post on the bug, if you disagree / have counterexamples)
3150. # [23:28] <jcranmer> dholbert: looks like the bug was backed out and checked in to use unsigned arithmetic instead
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3152. # [23:28] <jcranmer> dholbert: signed integer overflow is totally *not* portable
3153. # [23:28] <Philip> http://www.airs.com/blog/archives/120 has counterexamples in GCC
3154. # [23:28] <aja> fx-team builds manually updating from zips - 1ae3aef92373 to 9f0ec57368c0
3155. # [23:28] <dholbert> ah, right. It probably meant s/signed/unsigned/, then
3156. # [23:29] <aja> ttaubert: ^
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3158. # [23:29] <jcranmer> also, signed integer overflow is undefined, not unspecified
3159. # [23:29] <jcranmer> dholbert: http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-know.html
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3161. # [23:29] * dholbert redirects jcranmer to dbaron, who wrote the patch IIRC
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3164. # [23:29] <jcranmer> dholbert: you reviewed it :-P
3165. # [23:29] <dholbert> jcranmer, :)
3166. # [23:30] <joe> oh my, I didn't realize ssh was just waiting on me to unlock my key
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3168. # [23:30] <aja> ttaubert: though i think i noticed a day or so ago, too...perhaps on m-i, m-i, other? recents builds
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3170. # [23:30] <aja> s/one of the m-i/m-c/
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3172. # [23:31] <jcranmer> dholbert: for the record, signed overflow = undefined + unreliabe, unsigned->signed conversion = impl-defined (but 2's complement everywhere we care about), unsigned overflow = well-defined
3173. # [23:31] <ttaubert> aja: I didn't know you were using those builds. so did you maybe hit one of the landings of bug 867143?
3174. # [23:32] * jcranmer needs to whack people who mix up undefined/unspecified/impl-defined
3175. # [23:32] * jcranmer glares at dbaron
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3177. # [23:32] <@dbaron> jcranmer, right, next time I'll just not write a useful commit message rather than making typos in it
3178. # [23:32] <mbrubeck> bz: pong
3179. # [23:32] <Callek|Buildduty> jcranmer: don't glare too hard at dbaron, he's like a god around here :-P
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3182. # [23:33] <bz> mbrubeck: see my post in tree-management?
3183. # [23:33] <mbrubeck> not yet; looking
3184. # [23:33] <sicking> vlad: btw, have you guys discussed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783190 ?
3185. # [23:33] <dholbert> jcranmer, (do you have any objections to what eventually landed, or was this just a commit-message-nit?)
3186. # [23:33] <vlad> sicking: yes
3187. # [23:33] <vlad> sicking: we want it yesterday
3188. # [23:33] <dholbert> (& nit on the original-patch-which-was-replaced-with-something-better)
3189. # [23:34] <sicking> vlad: hehe. Do you have anyone that can work on it? I.e. should i start pushing to get it added to spec?
3190. # [23:34] <mbrubeck> bz: I saw a bunch of other Mac Dromaeo regressions go by around the same time; I had assumed the others had correct blame but I haven't looked closely yet.
3191. # [23:34] <mbrubeck> Looking now.
3192. # [23:34] <vlad> sicking: I think kyle has it on his list of worker-APIs
3193. # [23:34] <vlad> sicking: I didn't realize that it wasn't in the spec though
3194. # [23:34] <sicking> vlad: he does, but far down on the list
3195. # [23:34] <sicking> vlad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WorkerThreadAPIs
3196. # [23:35] <mbrubeck> bz: It might also have been a false alarm; the alert I replied to was actually triggered by an outlier 12 pushes earlier.
3197. # [23:35] <aja> ttaubert: 867143 has landed? didn't see any indication of other than try so far.
3198. # [23:35] <vlad> sicking: I don't actually see it on that list
3199. # [23:36] <sicking> vlad: line 19
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3203. # [23:36] <ttaubert> aja: no. but we tried it two times so far =)
3204. # [23:36] <vlad> sicking: that says "sync message channel"
3205. # [23:36] <ttaubert> aja: once on fx-team and once on m-i
3206. # [23:36] <vlad> sicking: OH
3207. # [23:36] <vlad> sicking: sorry, my head was in idb land
3208. # [23:36] <aja> ttaubert: btw, i don't share profiles in my testing
3209. # [23:37] <sicking> vlad: :)
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3211. # [23:37] <sicking> vlad: sync IDB impl is pretty far along, but spec status is unclear. So it's unclear when we can ship it
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3213. # [23:37] <vlad> sicking: so I talked with kyle and azakai, and we both want the sync worker api yesterday too
3214. # [23:37] <vlad> it also seems really simple to do; is that not the case?
3215. # [23:37] <vlad> like the api in comment #0 is what we want
3216. # [23:38] <sicking> vlad: it's the API in comment 20 that has a better chance of getting standardized
3217. # [23:38] <vlad> ew
3218. # [23:38] <vlad> now we're reinventing mach
3219. # [23:38] <sicking> vlad: but it's not that much harder to implement. It generally shouldn't be hard to do no
3220. # [23:38] <sicking> vlad: mach?
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3222. # [23:39] <vlad> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel) :)
3223. # [23:39] <vlad> message ports and the like
3224. # [23:39] <@smaug> MessagePorts are in the spec, we just haven't implemented them yet
3225. # [23:40] <aja> ttaubert: will keep my eyes open for occurences beyond fx-team and m-i
3226. # [23:40] <vlad> hmm
3227. # [23:40] <sicking> vlad: the lack of message channels is something that's annoying authors right now
3228. # [23:40] <ttaubert> aja: thx, sounds good
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3230. # [23:40] <@smaug> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/web-messaging.html#messageport
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3232. # [23:40] <vlad> I added azakai and ack for feedback
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3235. # [23:41] <@ehsan> spohl: ping
3236. # [23:41] <vlad> so the idea is that you create a channel on the main thread, then send the sync port to the worker
3237. # [23:41] <vlad> ?
3238. # [23:41] <spohl> ehsan: pong
3239. # [23:41] <@ehsan> spohl: can you please load https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=784739&attachment=780465 ?
3240. # [23:41] <vlad> and that sets up a direct communication without the generic message-to-everyone mechanism?
3241. # [23:41] <vlad> if so that sounds reasonable
3242. # [23:42] <spohl> ehsan: okay
3243. # [23:42] <sicking> vlad: i think the additional overhead of the bigger API is made up from the fact that we don't have to fight over whether it's needed or not. And possibly having to do both if we do the simpler one for now.
3244. # [23:42] <@ehsan> spohl: (or really, any bugzilla page)
3245. # [23:42] <vlad> is ther emuch overhead?
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3247. # [23:42] <@ehsan> for me, the scrollbar renders behind the header
3248. # [23:42] * corey is now known as corey|away
3249. # [23:42] <vlad> it looks like the main overhead is needing to postMessage() and then waitForMessage() on the sync side
3250. # [23:42] <sicking> vlad: for the bigger API, i suspect not
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3252. # [23:42] <@ehsan> spohl: (you also need to enable the fancy mozilla bmo theme)
3253. # [23:42] <spohl> ehsan: bug 896443?
3254. # [23:42] <vlad> and it can reduce overhead because the two sides don't have to keep checking "oh is this message for me?" by looking at some message.type field or something
3255. # [23:43] <@ehsan> spohl: yes, perfect
3256. # [23:43] <@ehsan> thanks
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3258. # [23:43] * dhylands|dr is now known as dhylands
3259. # [23:43] <@ehsan> z-index: 2147483647;
3260. # [23:43] <@ehsan> lol
3261. # [23:43] <vlad> sicking: what happened to timeouts?
3262. # [23:43] <@ehsan> spohl: what could possibly go wrong ;)
3263. # [23:43] <vlad> sicking: also, a one-step postMessageAndWait would be nice
3264. # [23:43] <sicking> vlad: do we need timeouts?
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3266. # [23:44] <spohl> ehsan: mstange chose that back in the days when the first patches came out for overlay scrollbars
3267. # [23:44] <sicking> vlad: they are pretty easy to implement manually
3268. # [23:44] <spohl> ehsan: I'm assuming that there was some thought put into it. :-)
3269. # [23:44] * corey|away is now known as corey
3270. # [23:44] <sicking> vlad: i think the postAndWait can wait until we have the basics since its syntax sugar
3271. # [23:44] <vlad> sicking: are they?
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3273. # [23:44] <vlad> I think that it would be easy to add them to the API implementation wise
3274. # [23:45] <vlad> and may make some things down the line much simpler
3275. # [23:45] <sicking> vlad: the problem is if you just timeout then the sync and async sides can get out-of-sync
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3277. # [23:45] <@ehsan> spohl: hopefully ;)
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3279. # [23:45] <spohl> ehsan: I may want to verify that though. :-)
3280. # [23:45] <vlad> sicking: I dunno; sync side does a wait(timeout); if it times out, it knows that it timed out via an exception or something
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3283. # [23:46] <vlad> async side gets told "noone heard you" when it eventually sends a message back
3284. # [23:46] <vlad> if it ever does
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3287. # [23:46] <@ehsan> spohl: sounds good, thanks!
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3291. # [23:46] <vlad> again maybe via an exception.. though hm, that assumes there's always a 1:1 relationship between a send and a reply
3292. # [23:47] <sicking> vlad: would have to be an async notification. You don't synchronously know if the other side timed out
3293. # [23:47] <vlad> then maybe you just drop it on the floor?
3294. # [23:47] <sicking> yeah, that's reasonable
3295. # [23:47] <sicking> i think timeout is implementable. I'm not sure it's needed though
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3297. # [23:48] <sicking> vlad: if it's a blocker for you guys, I'm ok with suggesting it along with the rest of the API
3298. # [23:48] <vlad> I'm just thinking ahead; with this we could in theory implement mutexes and other sync primitives
3299. # [23:48] <vlad> between workers and stuff
3300. # [23:48] <sicking> vlad: indeed, that's what i was thinking too
3301. # [23:48] * spohl is now known as spohl|away
3302. # [23:48] <vlad> and for that we'd want timeouts since they're a common part of that api
3303. # [23:49] <stuart> sicking: can you build me an api to let me cache dynamic images lazily with app cache or something?
3304. # [23:49] <vlad> stuart: use idb?
3305. # [23:49] <stuart> i don't really want to have to build a cache expiration image->canvas->idb thing
3306. # [23:49] <gkw> are there any debug windows builds of nightlies on beta/release channels?
3307. # [23:49] <stuart> (also idb isn't available everywhere I need to be)
3308. # [23:49] <stuart> (or, really, anywhere I need to be)
3309. # [23:50] <gkw> at http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/ i only see aurora / nightly debug windows builds
3310. # [23:50] <vlad> stuart: then how will any api that sicking builds you be useful? :)
3311. # [23:50] <stuart> move the web forward!
3312. # [23:50] <vlad> (and you can store an Image directly into indexeddb, afaik)
3313. # [23:50] <sicking> stuart: the navigationcontroller can do that
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3316. # [23:50] * stuart doesn't know what that is
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3318. # [23:51] <sicking> stuart: i'm not sure how canvas plays in here? You can use XHR to suck down the compressed image
3319. # [23:51] <sicking> stuart: but with navcontroller you still have to do the caching yourself
3320. # [23:51] <stuart> and then dataurl it in to an image tag?
3321. # [23:51] <sicking> stuart: yeah
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3323. # [23:51] <stuart> :/
3324. # [23:51] <sicking> well
3325. # [23:51] <sicking> no
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3327. # [23:52] <sicking> with navcontroller you just load the image as usual
3328. # [23:52] <stuart> i'm on mobile, trying to not use all the memory
3329. # [23:52] <sicking> and then you get an event in the navcontroller saying that someone is attempting to load url X
3330. # [23:52] <sicking> and then you can grab a blob from IDB and say "use this as response"
3331. # [23:53] <sicking> with the blob data never being loaded into memory other than by imagelib
3332. # [23:53] <stuart> is navcontroller documented anywhere?
3333. # [23:53] <sicking> stuart: https://github.com/slightlyoff/NavigationController/
3334. # [23:53] <sicking> stuart: but its not implemented yet. Ehsan is looking at prototyping
3335. # [23:54] <stuart> heh
3336. # [23:54] <stuart> ok
3337. # [23:54] <stuart> so in 5 years I could maybe use it? ;-)
3338. # [23:54] <sicking> well.. you did ask me to build you something. Anything built now won't be useful until 5 years from now :)
3339. # [23:54] <stuart> heh, yeah fair enough
3340. # [23:55] <sicking> you can use bloburls today(ish). They also don't load anything into memory other than what imagelib does
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3343. # [23:55] <sicking> no need for canvas
3344. # [23:55] <stuart> mm
3345. # [23:55] <sicking> but you have to manually do the logic of figuring out if you have the image cached, and then use a bloburl, or if its not cached use a "real" url
3346. # [23:55] <bholley> KWierso_: ugh, I don't have time to dig in for another 2 hours or so. Back out if need be. Sorry about that :-(
3347. # [23:56] * gkw notes to self of http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2013-07-24-mozilla-beta-debug/
3348. # [23:56] <KWierso_> bholley: everything?
3349. # [23:56] <stuart> i'm going to have to shove them in to websql or localstorage probably since i'm stuck on ios at the moment
3350. # [23:56] <bholley> KWierso_: well
3351. # [23:56] <sicking> stuart: navcontroller mostly means that you can just always use real urls.
3352. # [23:56] <sicking> stuart: well.. there i definitely can't build you anything :)
3353. # [23:56] <bholley> KWierso_: yeah, just to be safe
3354. # [23:56] <stuart> sicking: yeah, i basically want to say: try to cache anything from http://.../images/*
3355. # [23:56] <sicking> stuart: and neither websql or localStorage supports blobs :(
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3357. # [23:56] <stuart> heh
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3359. # [23:56] <KWierso_> bholley: can do
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3362. # [23:57] <sicking> stuart: on ios i think you're forced to load crap into memory
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3364. # [23:57] <stuart> yeah, it is seeming that way
3365. # [23:57] <stuart> i may hack together some custom protocol handler and do it natively
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3367. # [23:58] <sicking> stuart: its even worse i think. I think you have to encode it to text and then load that text into memory. And then create a separate in-memory copy that is binary
3368. # [23:58] <stuart> yep
3369. # [23:58] <sicking> stuart: you are basically hosed
3370. # [23:58] <sicking> websql might support storing arraybuffers, not sure
3371. # [23:59] <stuart> i might can mostly get away with adding a few mostly-static images to app cache and then just putting in a fallback image for the others
3372. # [23:59] <stuart> that say "get online, plz"
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3374. # [23:59] <sicking> stuart: apple is showing some interest in implementing filesystem API though. I think it's because websql doesn't support blobs
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