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  10. # [00:11] <froydnj> did dzbarsky break xpcshell?
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  20. # [00:21] <philor> yes
  21. # [00:22] <philor> "did till break android?" is a way more fun question
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  23. # [00:23] <philor> since "yes" would seem to imply bad behavior on the part of webrtc
  24. # [00:24] <philor> but then, if it broke on a Saturday for non-push reasons, that would seem to imply bad behavior on the part of webrtc, too
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  53. # [00:53] <Anup> can anyone help me in sorting out mentored minor bugs?
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  57. # [00:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1efba891f53b - Mats Palmgren - Bug 898913 - Look for the floating first-letter frame to remove on the kPushedFloatsList too. r=dholbert
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  113. # [02:16] <philor> tbsaunde: or, is webrtc something you might have made racy like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26404296&tree=Mozilla-Inbound?
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  115. # [02:17] <efaust> oh, good. There's a sherrif around...
  116. # [02:17] <philor> BUSTED!
  117. # [02:17] <philor> oh, "oh, good"
  118. # [02:17] <efaust> philor: no, wait for me to land
  119. # [02:17] <efaust> *then* BUSTED
  120. # [02:18] <mjrosenb|ARM> efaust: wanna see the fun i've been having for the last 12 hours or so?
  121. # [02:18] * philor closes the tree instead
  122. # [02:19] <efaust> philor: :(
  123. # [02:19] <efaust> philor: I know the magicm essage, though, see
  124. # [02:19] <philor> "Hope you had permission!"
  125. # [02:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> hrmm, awfy is updating once every 7 hours
  126. # [02:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> I suspect it is taking 7 hours to run the full suite of tests
  127. # [02:20] <philor> but actually I just didn't want to rebase my backout, after waiting all day to get home and land it
  128. # [02:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> oh no,
  129. # [02:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> that is not true
  130. # [02:21] <mjrosenb|ARM> the cron jobs need to be futzed, certainly.
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  132. # [02:23] <philor> efaust: so, anyway, what's up?
  133. # [02:24] <efaust> philor: oh, I just have a tall stack to land
  134. # [02:24] <efaust> philor: and I like inspiring fear in the sherrifs with ominous commentary
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  138. # [02:30] * philor considers aurora
  139. # [02:31] <tbsaunde> philor: don't think so but let me look
  140. # [02:32] <philor> seems to be a very small intersections between "around on weekends" and "has ever touched webaudio"
  141. # [02:33] <philor> like "I could ping padenot, and then at 1am Sunday...." small
  142. # [02:34] <tbsaunde> I think ehsan is sometimes around on the weekend?
  143. # [02:35] <tbsaunde> philor: I really doubt the webrtc thing is my fault, but I'll look into it any way after shower + borito
  144. # [02:35] <tbsaunde> is it perma // does clobbering help?
  145. # [02:35] <philor> tbsaunde: no hurry, it was just two instances on one push so it's pretty infrequent so far
  146. # [02:36] <philor> clobber plus retrigger was green on that push, nothing else failed above it
  147. # [02:37] <philor> for all I know, webrtc has a network dependency at build time, I'll believe things ten times more horrible than that without even blinking
  148. # [02:39] <philor> "Too many nonzero samples (got 13514, expected max Infinity)"
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  150. # [02:40] <philor> now, I started having trouble with math once they stopped asking questions I could answer by counting on my fingers, but...
  151. # [02:40] <philor> 13514 > Infinity seems unlikely to me
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  153. # [02:41] <philor> maybe it's a trick, and Max Infinity is a salesman who never puts more than 10000 samples in his briefcase
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  155. # [02:45] <mjrosenb|ARM> philor: maybe it is an 8 bit float, and it can't represent anything above 4096?
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  157. # [02:46] <philor> or, since it's bogus looking apparently infinitely repeated output followed by a timeout, maybe, just maybe, it's a totally bogus test
  158. # [02:47] <philor> since, as usual, I misread and that's not a failure, that's success, and would only be a failure if rather than 13514 we got Infinity+1
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  175. # [03:09] <ekr> philor: I'm pretty familiar with webrtc. what's the problem?
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  178. # [03:10] <ekr> oh, voice engine. that is not good
  179. # [03:10] <philor> ekr: the odd timing of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=64afa50a8042 is the problem
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  181. # [03:10] <philor> two at once, not before or since, and they really better not be related to that patch
  182. # [03:11] <ekr> yeah, no kidding
  183. # [03:12] <ekr> and that error really doesn't look lke a timing issue
  184. # [03:12] <ekr> for this you want either jesup or gcp
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  189. # [03:16] <philor> unrelatedly, we should really stop trying to produce stacks from timeouts
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  191. # [03:17] <philor> can't remember what we do on Mac, probably "don't try at all," but on Windows we fail miserably and turn the job purple as though it was infra rather than a timeout, and on Linux we always produce a stack topped with linux-gate.so + 0x424 and call every single timeout in any test a crash there
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  214. # [03:42] <jesup> ekr/philor: what's up, can I help?
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  216. # [03:42] <ekr> jesup: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=64afa50a8042
  217. # [03:43] <jesup> ok cpu_info.cc, I know that file. Looking
  218. # [03:43] <ekr> probably just random bustage
  219. # [03:43] <ekr> since it seems ok now
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  221. # [03:43] <jesup> Usually that's some sort of configure issue
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  226. # [03:46] <philor> mmm, the x86 one would have been on top of the objdir for a busted build from yesterday afternoon
  227. # [03:47] <jesup> That code can only compile if WEBRTC_LINUX && !WEBRTC_ANDROID && !WEBRTC_GONK
  228. # [03:47] <philor> and the arm one too, from the same time of day
  229. # [03:47] <jesup> Since it's an android build, WEBRTC_ANDROID *really* should be defined
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  232. # [03:50] <jesup> Yeah, -DWEBRTC_LOGGING -DWEBRTC_MOZILLA_BUILD -DWEBRTC_LINUX -DWEBRTC_THREAD_RR .... no WEBRTC_ANDROID
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  234. # [03:50] <philor> both objdirs would have been from the https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=75fb08918611 bustage
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  236. # [03:53] <jesup> Ok, back to DEFCON 1
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  238. # [03:54] <philor> yep, thanks for saying "configure" which made me wonder when they last did :)
  239. # [03:54] <jesup> np
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  241. # [03:57] <ckitching> I thought lower defcon numbers represented higher alert statuses...
  242. # [03:58] <ckitching> Indeed, it does. :P
  243. # [04:00] <philor> what you're missing is the fact that I put him in DEFCON 0, and he recalled his missiles when he went back to his normal 1
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  245. # [04:00] <philor> the life of a webrtc man is *always* intense
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  249. # [04:09] <bz> hrm
  250. # [04:09] <bz> I thought we had a way to share ccache across objdirs
  251. # [04:09] <bz> but I'm seeing stuff like this in the .i:
  252. # [04:09] <bz> do { MOZ_ReportCrash("" , "/Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/debug/mozilla/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp", 11144); do { *((volatile int*) __null) = 123; ::abort(); } while (0); } while(0);
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  254. # [04:09] <bz> Which is clearly not going to allow cross-tree sharing...
  255. # [04:10] <ckitching> I thought ccache did this automagically anyway? Doesn't it use some checksum on the input file to match against the cache contents?
  256. # [04:10] <ckitching> (So the same code in differently-named files should still hit)
  257. # [04:10] <bz> The point is the code contains the filename
  258. # [04:10] <bz> Due to presumably __FILE__ macro expansions
  259. # [04:10] <bz> so it's different code
  260. # [04:10] <ckitching> Ah. I see.
  261. # [04:11] <ckitching> How can we work around this?
  262. # [04:11] <bz> But I thought we had a way to make that output a path relative to the srcdir root
  263. # [04:11] <bz> instead of an absolute path
  264. # [04:11] <ckitching> That'd make sense.
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  267. # [04:15] <bz> hrm
  268. # [04:15] <bz> Looks like for __FILE__ it's a matter of what our build system passes in
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  279. # [04:28] <jesup> Perhaps that changed somewhere along the way?
  280. # [04:28] <jesup> Isn't __FILE__ a compiler macro, not build ssytem?
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  284. # [04:30] <jesup> bz: "__BASE_FILE__ This macro expands to the name of the main input file, in the form of a C string constant. This is the source file that was specified on the command line of the preprocessor or C compiler"
  285. # [04:30] <jesup> in GCC at least
  286. # [04:33] <jesup> bz: aha! http://ccache.samba.org/manual.html setenv CCACHE_SLOPPINESS file_macro
  287. # [04:35] <jesup> bz: also: http://ccache.samba.org/manual.html#_compiling_in_different_directories
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  313. # [05:16] <qDot> Oh. Huh. Yeah. Every nightly build has failed on the PPA. That's a reason.
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  476. # [10:48] <efaust> is there a sherrif about?
  477. # [10:51] <darktrojan> unlikely
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  479. # [10:52] <darktrojan> what've you broken?
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  483. # [10:55] <nrc> that's not very optimistic
  484. # [10:55] <nigelb> heh
  485. # [10:56] <darktrojan> :)
  486. # [10:56] <darktrojan> can't think why else anyone'd be asking
  487. # [10:59] <darktrojan> I see trees of green
  488. # [10:59] <darktrojan> red pandas too
  489. # [10:59] <efaust> darktrojan: uh, I'm a little dubious of the Fedora64 Opt build test failure on my last push
  490. # [11:00] <darktrojan> well I'm no expert but it built and it's working so I wouldn't be too fussed
  491. # [11:01] <darktrojan> spin it again, the machines are quiet
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  494. # [11:03] <efaust> darktrojan: heh
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  528. # [12:33] <@smaug> what is "engineering-friend" in status whiteboard?
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  531. # [12:41] <gaston> a trap ?
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  545. # [13:10] <Ms2ger> smaug, volunteers to be celebrated
  546. # [13:10] <darktrojan> efaust, your build is green after all
  547. # [13:11] <efaust> darktrojan: so I saw :)
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  567. # [13:40] <@smaug> so does adding webidl file still require clobber ?
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  579. # [14:06] <Anupkumar> firebot: ted
  580. # [14:06] <firebot> Anupkumar: ted is Ted Mielczarek, ted@mielczarek.org, build system owner, hack of all trades
  581. # [14:07] <Anupkumar> firebot: dolske
  582. # [14:07] <firebot> Anupkumar: Was it not... er, someone, who said: dolske is me
  583. # [14:07] <Anupkumar> firebot: mak
  584. # [14:07] <firebot> Anupkumar: Sorry, I've no idea what 'mak' might be.
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  586. # [14:09] <darktrojan> firebot, mak is Marco Bonardo, maker of things
  587. # [14:09] <firebot> darktrojan: ok
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  592. # [14:37] <nemo> huh. google is eliminating vendor prefixing
  593. # [14:37] <nemo> is that a general trend?
  594. # [14:37] <nemo> should I erase all my -moz- -o- -ms- -webkit- ...
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  596. # [14:38] <nemo> well. -moz- in particular, is what you guys could answer I guess
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  608. # [14:48] <firebot> enn was last seen 8 days, 19 hours, 6 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying 'maybe not. the testlog suggests there might be an actual problem. so feel free to back out' in #developers.
  609. # [14:49] <jesup> nemo: Google is doing something in that direction (don't know the official position). We agreed in .platform last winter that we'd avoid (or try to avoid) going to Release with new prefixed APIs, with a few exceptions (WebGL and WebRTC in particular, due to all implementations moving ahead of the specs)
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  613. # [14:54] <Ms2ger> nemo, yeah, Gecko/Blink are pretty much on the same page here
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  617. # [14:58] <RattyAway> https://mobile.twitter.com/Radlein/status/366378663333199874?p=v
  618. # [14:58] <RattyAway> [[Hmmnh. Getting a "Browser no longer supported" from Google+... in Firefox 23. REALLY?]]
  619. # [14:58] <jez> I've noticed that in SeaMonkey, when you move the Home link to the navigation toolbar so it acts as a button, it is still "draggable" because it has an ondragstart attribute. Would it be possible for a theme to fix this behaviour, or would it take an extension?
  620. # [14:58] <RattyAway> (also seen in mozilla.support.seamonkey)
  621. # [14:59] <RattyAway> jez: it would take an extension I think
  622. # [14:59] <jez> is there any reason that behaviour happens in seamonkey but not firefox?
  623. # [14:59] <RattyAway> jez; yes
  624. # [14:59] <jez> ie. in firefox it's a button and not draggable (i know the home button is to be removed but before that...)
  625. # [15:00] <RattyAway> correct
  626. # [15:00] <RattyAway> jez; I think IanN touched our home button code last.
  627. # [15:01] <RattyAway> You might ask him the next time he's in #seamonkey
  628. # [15:01] <RattyAway> better still ask in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
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  630. # [15:03] <jez> touched it to do anything significant?
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  636. # [15:15] <RattyAway> jez; can't remember
  637. # [15:15] <RattyAway> sorry
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  742. # [17:42] <gaston> jesup: once i have an r+ for for part 1.2 & part X on 807492, what do you think of part Z ? you want to r+ it too ?
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  744. # [17:43] <gaston> i'll land all 6 patches in my queue at once this way, and i'll have the full 26 cycle to debug runtime issues
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  811. # [19:12] <guestish> i have some technical questions! does it apply to firefox compiled with avx? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17709333/penalty-for-switching-from-sse-to-avx
  812. # [19:14] <guestish> which means avx firefox would be slower in certain cases?
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  815. # [19:16] <guestish> any wise person to answer my question?
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  829. # [19:29] <Ms2ger> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, eh
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  839. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> gaston, I realized you could get more obscure than plain BSD :)
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  841. # [19:37] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: some people really like there zfs I guess
  842. # [19:38] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, I prefer not to comment on them :)
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  844. # [19:38] <guestish> bitches
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  974. # [21:34] <Ms2ger> All it's missing is an Impl suffix
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  991. # [21:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/177dcf987033 - Geoff Brown - Bug 902160 - Fix invalid comments in androidx86.json; r=jmaher
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  1005. # [22:06] <gaston> darn, bad karma.. i386 builds fails with clang choking repeatedly on dom/indexedDB/FileInfo.cpp, and amd64 chokes on dom/src/geolocation/nsGeolocation.cpp:308:15: error: member access into incomplete type 'nsIDOMGeoPosition
  1006. # [22:06] <gaston> ErrorCallback'
  1007. # [22:07] <gaston> what have i done to get all that :(
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  1048. # [22:43] <jyeo_away> hi, are there any bugzilla people around?
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  1051. # [22:44] <jyeo_away> I just finished my internship and the mozilla.com email associated with bugzilla is revoked.
  1052. # [22:44] <jyeo_away> :-(
  1053. # [22:44] <jyeo_away> #bugzilla
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  1058. # [22:46] <mcsmurf> jyeo_away: so your bugzilla account has been disabled?
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  1060. # [22:46] <mcsmurf> or just your mail address
  1061. # [22:46] <jyeo_away> mcsmurf: it's not disabled.
  1062. # [22:46] <jyeo_away> i can access it but i cant see my bug mails
  1063. # [22:46] <jyeo_away> i want my bug mails to be sent to another email address
  1064. # [22:47] <mcsmurf> then just change the mail address? or do you need access to your old address for that?
  1065. # [22:47] <mcsmurf> I can't remember..
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  1068. # [22:47] <jyeo_away> the settings page requires me to enter my old password
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  1072. # [22:47] <mcsmurf> you said you can access your bugzilla account?
  1073. # [22:47] <jyeo_away> but the old password != persona password
  1074. # [22:47] <mcsmurf> oh, hm
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  1076. # [22:48] <jyeo_away> i can access it with my persona account
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  1078. # [22:50] <mcsmurf> I suggest you file a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugzilla.mozilla.org Component: Administration I think they might be able to help you
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  1129. # [23:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79684dc64173 - Terrence Cole - Bug 898936 - Fix some build warnings on ARM gcc; r=mjrosenb
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