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- # [00:10] <gabadie> RyanVM|afk : ping
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- # [00:19] <NeilAway> unexpected pdb error
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- # [00:20] <Waldo> NeilAway: change your expectations, they'll go away
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- # [00:21] <NeilAway> Waldo: sadly it's link.exe's expectations, not mine
- # [00:21] <Waldo> NeilAway: aren't you the guy who patches out fatal assertions at debug time? should be a piece of cake
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- # [00:24] <NeilAway> Waldo: only once I've compiled and linked the software...
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- # [00:24] <Waldo> :-)
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- # [00:36] <rforbes> hello. i have some basic questions for building on windows
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- # [00:40] <dholbert> rforbes, if you haven't already, you should look at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites before trying to build on Windows. If that doesn't answer your questions, ask away, and hopefully someone who knows the answer will respond
- # [00:40] <rforbes> i did, thanks
- # [00:40] <dholbert> rforbes, (I'm not on windows, so I probably can't help)
- # [00:40] <dholbert> cool
- # [00:41] <rforbes> so, first i wanted to find out if ac_add_options --enable-debug is the same as /Zi for visual studio
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- # [00:41] <rforbes> second, i need to build using /PROFILE
- # [00:41] <rforbes> and i am not sure how to do that with our set up
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- # [00:43] <dholbert> rforbes, based on http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/configure.in#2071 , it looks like "-Zi" is among the flags that we use on MSVC, when you've done --enable-debug
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- # [00:43] <rforbes> do you have any idea where the pdb file would be?
- # [00:43] <dholbert> nope
- # [00:43] <rforbes> ok, thanks
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- # [00:44] <khuey> "the pdb"?
- # [00:44] <khuey> for what
- # [00:44] <rforbes> the output of using Zi or Zl is a pdb file
- # [00:44] <rforbes> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/yd4f8bd1%28v=vs.90%29.aspx
- # [00:44] <rforbes> according to this anyway
- # [00:44] <rforbes> a tool i am using is looking for it.
- # [00:45] <khuey> well the pdb is next to the generated binary file
- # [00:45] <khuey> where that is depends on what you're looking for
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- # [00:46] <rforbes> hmm, the pdb files in the dist/bin do not look right to me
- # [00:46] <rforbes> but it's possible i don't know what i am looking at.
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- # [00:46] <Mook_as> rforbes: you might want to just have --enable-debug-symbols
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- # [00:46] <Mook_as> --enable-debug has... extra meaning.
- # [00:46] <khuey> dist/bin is not the right place
- # [00:46] <rforbes> ooh, that certainly would mess me up
- # [00:46] <khuey> the binaries get copied there, pdbs don't
- # [00:46] <rforbes> ahh, ok
- # [00:47] <khuey> the pdb is wherever in the objdir the binary was created
- # [00:47] <Mook_as> and you probably want to consider `mach buildsymbols` (I think that's what it's called?) - it generates pdbs and *.sym (for crash reporting), I think?
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- # [00:47] <rforbes> khuey: obj-i686-pc-mingw32?
- # [00:48] <khuey> that's the objdir
- # [00:48] <khuey> the pdb is going to be whereever in there we linked the corresponding binary
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- # [00:48] <khuey> e.g. xul.pdb is in obj.../toolkit/library
- # [00:48] <rforbes> agh, ok, so no like "firefox.pdb"
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- # [00:48] <rforbes> to go with firefox.exe?
- # [00:48] <decoder> seth: pong
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- # [00:48] <rforbes> er ahh, not agh. heh
- # [00:49] <khuey> rforbes: there is ... in objdir/browser/app, where we link firefox.exe
- # [00:49] <@roc> avih: in New Zealand at least, "knock yourself off" would mean "kill yourself" :-). Maybe you were going for "knock yourself out"
- # [00:49] <rforbes> khuey: ok, that helps, thanks!
- # [00:50] <rforbes> anything on the /PROFILE flag for the compiler?
- # [00:50] <khuey> I don't know what that means
- # [00:50] <rforbes> it's a compiler flag
- # [00:51] <khuey> sure
- # [00:52] <avih> roc: yeah. too bad i can't edit. maybe you have superpowerz in bugzilla? :)
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- # [00:52] <@roc> just for future reference :-)
- # [00:52] <avih> note taken :)
- # [00:52] <khuey> fwiw 'knock yourself off' doesn't mean anything good in the US either
- # [00:53] <jlebar> We compile ICU with -j1? That is sad...
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- # [00:54] <Waldo> jlebar: it compiles itself that way, I believe
- # [00:54] <Waldo> jlebar: temporarily, --without-intl-api will skip building it
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- # [00:55] <avih> roc: fwiw, with the combo i suggested (dwmflush before present), on epic citadel, when it's smooth, it's the smoothest i've seen firefox do.
- # [00:56] <avih> though blocking on main thread is ugly as hell
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- # [00:59] <avih> roc: also, regardless of all timing issues, i believe we still have a throughput issue as well.
- # [00:59] <avih> at least on some systems. such as mine.
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- # [01:01] <rforbes> khuey: sorry if i am not being clear. building on windows with vc is kinda new for me. all i know is that there is this flag /PROFILE that supposedly generates tracing and performance information. a tool that i am using uses that info at some point.
- # [01:02] <@roc> avih: thoughput issue on which test(s)?
- # [01:02] <avih> roc: dense text and wikipedia, using the scroll test, on full screen 1920x1080
- # [01:03] <avih> when i reduce the window size, especially the width, throughput improves a lot.
- # [01:04] <khuey> rforbes: you need the enterprise version of msvc to use that
- # [01:04] <avih> roc: what do you mean by "Maybe moving the CheckForMissedFrames check helps?"
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- # [01:04] <avih> where to?
- # [01:04] <khuey> rforbes: according to the docs
- # [01:04] <rforbes> khuey: i have that
- # [01:05] <rforbes> it's whatever moz gives us
- # [01:05] <rforbes> that's the one i have.
- # [01:05] <khuey> yeah I don't think that's the right version
- # [01:05] <rforbes> hmm, i see what you are saying, i will see if we can get it.
- # [01:06] <khuey> rforbes: but try to sneak it in via LDOPTS and see what happens?
- # [01:06] <khuey> er
- # [01:06] <khuey> LDFLAGS
- # [01:06] <khuey> clearly
- # [01:07] <avih> roc: my rough suspicion is that if the frame is missed by some marginal duration (as can happen when flush happens right before/after present), then it isn't detected, though generally, without the flushes, it seems to detect a lot, though it's hard to perfectly correlate visually confirmed missed frames with the detected missed frames.
- # [01:07] <rforbes> khuey: how do i specify those?
- # [01:07] <khuey> rforbes: environment variable when running configure
- # [01:08] <rforbes> so, to be clear, i am using mach, heh
- # [01:08] <rforbes> i am kinda windows dumb as far as building stuff goes.
- # [01:08] <bent> jduell, ping
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- # [01:09] <jduell> bent: pong
- # [01:09] <bent> jduell, ok, i have deets on your deadlock
- # [01:09] <khuey> rforbes: export LDFLAGS=-Whatever
- # [01:09] <khuey> rforbes: then mach configure presumably
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- # [01:09] <jduell> bent: word
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- # [01:09] <rforbes> ahh, ok
- # [01:10] <rforbes> khuey: ok, thanks!
- # [01:10] <bent> jduell, basically two problems:
- # [01:10] <bent> jduell, media decoder is holding its lock while calling out to god knows what
- # [01:10] <bent> (r-double-minus)
- # [01:10] <@roc> avih: do we conclude there's something specifically wrong with your laptop?
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- # [01:11] <bent> jduell, and then the deadlock detector has seen the cache lock and the media decoder lock acquired in the reverse order
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- # [01:11] <lsblakk> jesup|laptop: ping
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- # [01:12] <jduell> bent: so is the fix to stop decoder from holding lock?
- # [01:12] <bent> jduell, well, the second bit is probably the same exact problem with the cache lock
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- # [01:12] <bent> jduell, holding the lock while calling out into random code
- # [01:13] <bent> which somehow triggers the media decoder
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- # [01:13] <khuey> you get a r-double minus and you get a r-double-minus
- # [01:13] * khuey crowns bent oprah of r-
- # [01:13] <marco> quick Task.jsm question, why doesn't this print anything? (http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2849860)
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- # [01:14] <bent> khuey, look under your chair
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- # [01:16] <@roc> avih: so maybe I should hold off landing this missed-frames detection code until we determine how useful it is?
- # [01:16] <@roc> I can still land the DWM cleanups
- # [01:17] <khuey> bent: I don't see any r- under here
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- # [01:17] <bent> khuey, i must have put it under one of your other chairs
- # [01:17] <bent> you have too many
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- # [01:18] <dvander> is there a standard practice for enabling C++ code under trunk builds but not aurora/beta/release?
- # [01:18] <jduell> bent: so basically I should tell honza to try to stop either cache or media code from calling into "random" code (like what exactly?)
- # [01:19] <mbrubeck> dvander: I think #ifdef NIGHTLY_BUILD is the new supported thing: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=NIGHTLY_BUILD®exp=on
- # [01:19] <bent> jduell, well, basically stack 1 can be ignored
- # [01:19] <dvander> mbrubeck, will that work if i'm just pulling m-c and building?
- # [01:19] <bent> jduell, stack 2 is the interesting one
- # [01:20] <bent> jduell, there, the deadlock detector thinks that cache lock is *already* held when it tries to lock the decoder lock
- # [01:20] <avih> roc: yeah. the cleanups are good regardless. the detection also does pretty well, even if not perfect. also, we still don't have anything in the code which actually uses the miss detection (counts them etc). i think the profiler might affect it too much compared to non-profiled usecases. not sure what to answer to this...
- # [01:20] <bent> jduell, which makes me wonder if honza is doing something funny with leaving the lock held... not using autolocks always?
- # [01:20] <mbrubeck> dvander: see also https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/Channel-specific_build_defines
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- # [01:21] <mbrubeck> dvander: It looks like yes, since it's based on milestone.txt
- # [01:21] <dvander> mbrubeck, sweet, thanks!
- # [01:21] <jduell> bent: ok, I'll let him know this and see where he gets. Thanks
- # [01:21] <bent> jduell, is this patch up somewhere?
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- # [01:22] <jduell> bent: not sure--if so, it's on the gum branch
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- # [01:25] <lsblakk> is there anyone who can land jesup|laptop's backout to mozilla-release?
- # [01:25] <lsblakk> any sheriff around?
- # [01:25] <bent> jduell, but basically it looks to me like media decoder is sloppy but so far lucky, and now
- # [01:25] <bent> jduell, it looks like cache lock is also sloppy somehow
- # [01:26] <mbrubeck> marco: I think it's because there is no "yield" in the function you passed to Task.spawn
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- # [01:26] <jduell> roc: do you consider yourself sloppy but lucky? ^^^
- # [01:27] <mbrubeck> marco: So Task.spawn calls the function and errors out immediately and the exception propagates up to its caller: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/modules/Task.jsm#127
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- # [01:27] <mbrubeck> and it never gets to the line where it returns a promise
- # [01:28] <@roc> jduell: usually.
- # [01:28] <@roc> jduell: Can you point to where we're holding the lock too long?
- # [01:28] <jduell> bent: ^^^
- # [01:28] <mbrubeck> marco: Maybe the implementation of Task.spawn should catch the exception and return a rejected promise..?
- # [01:29] <marco> mbrubeck: I thought throwing an error would be the same as doing |yield Promise.reject()|
- # [01:29] <marco> mbrubeck: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/Task.jsm#Exception_handling
- # [01:30] <marco> "Any other unhandled exception that is thrown inside the task is reported by Components.utils.reportError."
- # [01:30] <bent> roc, here basically: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/MediaDecoder.cpp#760
- # [01:30] <marco> (and there Components.utils.reportError is equivalent to my function that should print "ok")
- # [01:30] <bent> roc, which seems harmless until honza's cache work
- # [01:30] <bent> roc, hence "lucky" :)
- # [01:31] <@roc> ok
- # [01:32] <marco> mbrubeck: so I think either the implementation or the documentation is wrong
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- # [01:35] <marco> mbrubeck: yeah, I think the implementation is wrong, because the task.js library returns a rejected promise in case of exceptions
- # [01:35] <marco> I'll post a patch to fix taht
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- # [01:39] <@roc> ok I think this lock isn't actually needed at all!
- # [01:39] * @roc says hopefully
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- # [01:40] <bent> roc, just to be clear i have no idea if this is worth your time ;)
- # [01:41] <bent> roc, i just got handed a potential deadlock stack and that's part of my diagnosis
- # [01:41] <@roc> it's fine
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- # [01:47] <karolyi> hi, i'd like to overlay this function, but as it seems, it is an XPCOM module referenced in omni.ja: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/nsSessionStartup.js#94 <-- is there any way to overlay this?
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- # [01:49] <Bas> How do I allow remote XUL?
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- # [01:51] <mbrubeck> Bas: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/235281/
- # [01:52] <mbrubeck> (via https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_Remote_XUL )
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- # [02:08] <jduell> roc: so are you getting rid of media lock?
- # [02:08] <Bas> mbrubeck: Thanks!
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- # [02:09] <mbrubeck> Bas: I'm curious if that still works since the documentation seems a bit old
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- # [02:10] <Bas> mbrubeck: Seems to!
- # [02:10] <mbrubeck> sweet
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- # [02:12] <dmajor> khuey: ping
- # [02:13] <khuey> dmajor: pong
- # [02:13] <dmajor> khuey: how long does a build take for you on Windows?
- # [02:13] <khuey> dmajor: from scratch? a little under 2 hours on my laptop
- # [02:14] <dmajor> ah, okay. I guess my 96mins-and-counting isn't unheard of then. I am hearing the other platforms are faster
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- # [02:15] <@smaug> I think it is more these days
- # [02:15] <khuey> dmajor: yeah, pretty much anything else is faster
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- # [02:32] <lsblakk> jesup: pong
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- # [02:34] <jesup> I'm preparing to land the backout. Doing a final local build and Try. Do you want to wait for the Try before landing?
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- # [02:34] <lsblakk> jesup: for the 901527 backout or for the 904598 pref off?
- # [02:34] <jesup> 901527
- # [02:35] <jesup> For the other: we have a Try. I don't know if QA has looked at it. It would be a pref-off IIRC (will double-check now)
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- # [02:35] <lsblakk> hm. i think if you can build local that will be enough - try results take a long time and we might as well get those test results on m-r so as to go to build if good
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- # [02:35] <lsblakk> for the other - is the pref-off returning us to known good state pre-23?
- # [02:36] <jesup> lsblakk: I agree re: the try
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- # [02:37] <jesup> lsblakk: jib will comment here - but I think it doesn't return to exactly the 22 state - it simply turns off Turn.
- # [02:37] <lsblakk> hm
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- # [02:37] <lsblakk> so i'm a bit nervous about that one without having qa and without going back to exactly what we had in FF22...
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- # [02:38] <jib> yes, disabling turn is not the same as in FF22
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- # [02:38] <lsblakk> i wonder if waiting until morning might be needed or if we should do 23.0.1 without it (since it is a less common use case is it not?)
- # [02:38] <jesup> 22 considers TURN servers to be STUN servers. If we simply turn off turn, and there are no STUN: servers in the list, we'll fall back to Mozilla's STUN server
- # [02:39] <jib> it's a low-level off switch, seem fairly safe
- # [02:39] <lsblakk> hm
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- # [02:39] <jib> the stun fallback stuff never worked right even in FF22
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- # [02:40] <jesup> basically just removes them from consideration. As jib points out, the 22 behavior wasn't good anyways.
- # [02:40] <jib> you had to provide a turn server WITHOUT credentials or username (which is actually invalid according to the turn standard) before the stun fallback kicked in. So in practice FF22 ignored turn servers without treating them as stun servers
- # [02:40] <lsblakk> ya
- # [02:41] <lsblakk> jesup: so what's the actual regression here between 22 and 23 for 904598 - what made it worse in 23?
- # [02:41] <lsblakk> or: is there something worse in 23 than 22?
- # [02:42] <jesup> We actually turned on TURN, and there was a bug (see the last message in the bug). It is definitely worse than the previous behavior
- # [02:43] <lsblakk> but disabling it isn't putting us back to the same state as 22?
- # [02:43] <lsblakk> i'm missing something
- # [02:43] <jesup> (which ignored any proper TURN entries - and the pref will do the same. 22 would use incorrect TURNS without username/password as STUN
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- # [02:44] <jesup> To put another way: flipping the pref will make it ignore TURN. The 22 behaviour ignored correct TURN, but used invalid TURN as STUN.
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- # [02:44] <lsblakk> ok - reading 855769 helps
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- # [02:44] <jesup> jib: correct?
- # [02:45] <jib> yes
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- # [02:45] <lsblakk> jesup: so i'll give m-r approval to the disabling patch in 904598 based on the try results, we should uplift to m-r branch, get qa testing on m-r builds
- # [02:45] <jesup> Ok, I'll land both then
- # [02:45] <lsblakk> i have to run out to dog training class, but will be back in a few hours to kick off builds if you've been able to land both those patches cleanly
- # [02:45] <lsblakk> so qa has builds in the morning
- # [02:45] <lsblakk> (fingers crossed all goes well on infra side)
- # [02:45] <lsblakk> otherwise we'll go early PT am
- # [02:46] <jesup> ok, thanks!
- # [02:46] <jib> great!
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- # [02:48] <seth> anyone who works on/wants to take responsibility for TypedEnum.h willing to take a look at a code sample and tell me if i'm using it wrong?
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- # [02:48] <seth> because i get build failures from it on Fedora and Windows, presumably the platforms that do not natively support 'enum class'.
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- # [02:51] <seth> Waldo: this means you, i think =p
- # [02:51] <Waldo> seth: are you using it nested inside a class? don't do that
- # [02:51] <Waldo> seth: some changes happened recently to add separate macros for that use case
- # [02:52] * Waldo *thinks* those changes landed, but honestly he's not sure off the top of his head
- # [02:52] <seth> Waldo: https://gist.github.com/sfowler/7abf973a77861575e237
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- # [02:52] <seth> Waldo: that's my code, not nested in a class
- # [02:52] <seth> Waldo: here's a sample build failure, on Fedora: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26506987&tree=Try
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- # [02:53] <seth> Waldo: i'm hoping it's something i'm doing wrong
- # [02:53] <Waldo> seth: fairly sure the trailing comma is non-kosher
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- # [02:53] <Waldo> that may or may not produce that error, tho
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- # [02:53] * Waldo isn't sure if C++11 made trailing commas okay here or not
- # [02:53] <Waldo> could be a compiler thing, of course
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- # [02:53] <RyanVM|afk> gabadie: pong
- # [02:53] <seth> Waldo: ah, yes, good call. i didn't even notice that
- # [02:54] <seth> Waldo: that's probably it, thanks!
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- # [02:54] <Waldo> np
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- # [02:57] <seth> Waldo: FYI, according to this stackoverflow post, this _is_ a C++11 vs C++03 difference, once which i never noticed until now. the trailing comma is legal in C++11: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6372650/trailing-commas-and-c
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- # [02:59] <Waldo> yeah, just verified with -Wall -Werror -pedantic against g++48 and clang++-tip-ish
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- # [03:02] <Waldo> interesting that gcc 4.7.2 seemingly doesn't like that with -std=gnu++0x
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- # [03:12] <seth> what about with --std=c++11?
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- # [03:21] <JonathanS> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/08/gumbo-c-library-for-parsing-html.html Hmm
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- # [03:37] <seth> am i the only one annoying that when firefox's address bar fails to load a website, it doesn't then attempt to google for it?
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- # [03:37] <seth> when i type something like "document.open", expecting a google search, i'd like it to actually work
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- # [03:38] <seth> *annoyed
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- # [03:39] <dholbert> seth, hmm.
- # [03:40] <seth> dholbert: in safari, this works
- # [03:40] <dholbert> seth, but not if you type "document.com", I imagine?
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- # [03:40] <seth> also in chrome
- # [03:40] <dholbert> or whateversomesitethatdoesnotexist.com
- # [03:40] <seth> well, document.com seems to exists, haha
- # [03:41] <seth> yeah, a site that does not exist doesn't work. so i suppose safari just has more robust URL identification than us
- # [03:41] <dholbert> it almost looks like chrome doesn't even bother trying to resolve "document.open"
- # [03:41] <dholbert> yeah
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- # [03:42] <seth> though tbh i'd prefer if it just googled on failure. i can understand that some might not want that though
- # [03:42] <dholbert> yeah... when yoursite.co.uk.biz is down and you're trying to figure out why, you're going to get annoyed when you get a google search every time you load it :)
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- # [03:43] <dholbert> (but on the other hand, I suppose the average user isn't trying to troubleshoot server downtime)
- # [03:43] <seth> yeah, that was the point i was about to make - that's not a typical usecase
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- # [03:43] <seth> IMO, it's poor UX to just return an error message. the browser should do its best to give me *something*
- # [03:43] <mina> how do I increment build the /mfbt folder?
- # [03:44] <dholbert> mina, .does /mach build mfbt work?
- # [03:44] <dholbert> seth, though let's say facebook gets DDOS'd or has a serious issue, and an Average User types facebook.com into their browser. what's really going to be most useful to them? a "site is down" message, or a google search for facebook?
- # [03:44] <mina> it seems not, I put garble in one file and mach just told me it compiled fine dholbert
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- # [03:45] <dholbert> mina, could be a mach bug, then. (or maybe a build-config bug, depending on classification)
- # [03:45] <seth> dholbert: a google search for facebook combined with a message at the top of the browser window saying "couldn't load facebook.com" if the browser strongly suspects that what you gave it was a URL
- # [03:46] <dholbert> seth, hmm, seems reasonable
- # [03:46] <dholbert> mina, there's some hand-wavy hardcoded builtins for figuring out what needs rebuilding when you change foo/bar.cpp and type ./mach build foo
- # [03:46] <dholbert> mina, and it's entirely possible that those are broken in some cases (say, for mfbt)
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- # [03:47] <mina> dholbert: I see :(
- # [03:48] <glandium> mina: if you changed a header in mfbt, you're better off running a complete build
- # [03:48] <mina> glandium: I did change a header. complete build it is then.
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- # [03:49] <seth> dholbert: i'm getting ready to head out but maybe i'll file a bug about this tomorrow =) i think at a minimum searching for things like "document.open" should work
- # [03:50] <dholbert> seth, cool!
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- # [03:51] <dholbert> there probably isn't much that the build system can do that'd be smarter than that (though it'd be helpful if it did that for you)
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- # [06:23] <@roc> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10912354 "Pirate Bay web browser clocks up massive downloads"
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- # [06:28] <aja> for making history, um....history
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- # [06:41] <glandium> is it me or typeaheadfind used to be cross-tabs and is not anymore?
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- # [06:42] <glob> i have a reproducible firefox crash, but it isn't appearing in about:crashes .. how do i go about getting relevant data to file a bug (or find an existing bug) ?
- # [06:42] <khuey> glob: attach gdb and get a stack trace?
- # [06:43] <glandium> i'm pretty sure i could do ctrl-f, type a keyword, switch tab and ctrl-g in that other tab, and it would search for that keyword. That doesn't work anymore, and that's annoying
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- # [06:43] <glandium> now i need to type the keyword in every tab
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- # [06:50] <Unfocused> glandium: yea, that (intentionally) changed recently to be per-tab
- # [06:51] <glandium> Unfocused: :(
- # [06:51] <Unfocused> i *think* theres a bug to give an option to make it sticky
- # [06:51] <glandium> what was the rationale to change that?
- # [06:52] <Unfocused> most people expect it to be per-tab
- # [06:52] <tbsaunde> roc: \O/
- # [06:52] <glandium> Unfocused: i don't think anyone expects ctrl-g to do nothing the first time in a tab if there was a search in another tab
- # [06:54] <Unfocused> we've been wanting to fix that for ages, its a commonly cited papercut. iirc, we have data and user research to back that up. though it was expected it would still be a controversial change to some people
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- # [06:56] <glandium> Unfocused: i can understand someone want to search different things in different tabs. i'm just saying that i think we should default to the last search in another tab for the first search in a new tab
- # [06:56] <glandium> ^that sentence is probably not clear
- # [06:56] <glandium> now if only i could find the corresponding bug
- # [06:57] <Unfocused> heh, i understood what you mean
- # [06:57] <Unfocused> i forget the bug.. been ages since i looked at that. mikedeboer finished it recently, that should make it easier to find
- # [06:58] <glandium> 776708?
- # [06:59] <glandium> maybe not
- # [07:00] <Unfocused> no, not that one
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- # [07:00] <Unfocused> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537013
- # [07:01] <Unfocused> though, dev-firefox mailing list would be the place to discuss it
- # [07:01] <Unfocused> think there's already a thread there on it
- # [07:03] <glandium> Unfocused: i wanted to read the rationale first
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- # [07:04] <glob> khuey, odd, gdb tells me that the program exited normally (while osx is displaying the "nightlydebug quit unexpectedly" window)
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- # [07:05] <khuey> :-/
- # [07:05] * khuey has no idea then
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- # [07:08] <Unfocused> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565552 may have additional context too
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- # [07:10] <glob> in case anyone's interested .. got a stack trace, filed bug 905010
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- # [07:16] <glandium> it didn't, before
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- # [08:14] <fitzgen> we don't support rest params in destructuring assignment, but it is in es6, right?
- # [08:15] <JonathanS> mattwoodrow, I noticed Firefox is spamming "invalid drawable" on OS X. I found simliar problem in https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=148882. They said it is "it means that NSOpenGLContext was happening without being attached to a view"
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- # [08:17] <mattwoodrow> JonathanS: yeah, makes sense
- # [08:17] <mattwoodrow> we do some setView calls in nsChildView.mm
- # [08:17] <mattwoodrow> I guess something is wrong with that for OMTC
- # [08:18] <mattwoodrow> dinner time!
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- # [09:58] <Ms2ger> Ah, my favourite warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) > X is always false
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- # [10:11] <glob> Ms2ger, and good afternoon to you too
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- # [10:15] <edmorley> glob: good evening :-)
- # [10:15] <glob> edmorley, :)
- # [10:15] <glob> edmorley, now's the leg?
- # [10:16] <glob> or... how's the leg?
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- # [10:17] <edmorley> glob: not too bad thank you, just want to get the surgical consultation out the way to at least feel like I'm getting somewhere, given the recovery time that will be required after
- # [10:18] <glandium> glob: splinter doesn't support file copy and renames, does it?
- # [10:18] <glob> glandium, incorrect - splinter supports copy/renames
- # [10:19] <glandium> glob: is that recent?
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- # [10:19] <glob> glandium, 2013-05-08
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- # [10:20] <glob> glandium, i'll let you determine if that's recent ;)
- # [10:21] <glob> glandium, is there a diff which it's showing incorrectly?
- # [10:21] <glandium> glob: well, neither splinter nor diff view support this patch correctly: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=780501
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- # [10:21] <glandium> splinter does display a rename for a file that is *also* changed, though
- # [10:22] <glandium> diff view doesn't
- # [10:22] <glob> glandium, ah; yeah... splinter isn't showing _just_ renames. hrm. can you file a bug for me?
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- # [10:23] <glandium> glob: what is the component for diff view? i'll file two
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- # [10:23] <glob> glandium, Bugzilla :: Attachments & Requests i think
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- # [10:26] <glandium> glob: 905060 and 905061 ; also filed 905054 fwiw
- # [10:26] <glob> glandium, thanks
- # [10:27] <Ms2ger> Good morning, edmorley
- # [10:28] <glandium> interesting... a ccache build is only 15% faster, here
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- # [10:34] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
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- # [10:38] <Ms2ger> Mm, broken leakstats
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- # [10:40] <Tomcat|Sheriff> Ms2ger: i will retrigger that
- # [10:40] <Tomcat|Sheriff> oh you did
- # [10:40] <Ms2ger> Tomcat|Sheriff, I already did :)
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- # [10:51] <mina> how do I run tests in say layout/base/test?
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- # [11:00] <Ms2ger> Ha
- # [11:00] <Ms2ger> Pike claims to own it, still
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- # [11:03] <ewong> Ms2ger: thanks..
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- # [12:19] <sshagarwal> http://mibpaste.com/7Z06Is can someone please tell me what mistake am I making in this patch? I am not getting anything in the error console
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- # [12:25] <decoder> Yoric: did you use the same revision for your try push as yesterday? xpcshell is all orange again
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- # [12:42] <jez9999> Is there a way to use CSS (perhaps pseudo-selectors?) to match if a CSS style is a particular way? Specifically, I want to match if -moz-box-orient is horizontal (or is not vertical)
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- # [12:49] <mstange> jez9999: no, otherwise you could create cyclic dependencies, like box:has(-moz-box-orient:horizontal) { -moz-box-orient:vertical; }
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- # [12:56] <darktrojan> woah linux nightly updates are past 35MB
- # [12:56] <darktrojan> they were 28 a few months ago
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- # [13:04] <gaston> firebot no longer announces pushes ?
- # [13:05] <darktrojan> firebot is here?
- # [13:05] <gaston> ah right, MIA
- # [13:05] <darktrojan> :)
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- # [13:08] <karolyi> hi, i'd like to overlay this function, but as it seems, it is an XPCOM module referenced in omni.ja: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/nsSessionStartup.js#94 <-- is there any way to overlay this?
- # [13:09] <Unfocused> darktrojan: yesterday i was surprised to see nightly takes up 209mb installed on OSX
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- # [13:10] <Unfocused> karolyi: not in a component, no
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- # [13:11] <Yoric> decoder: Yes, I used the same revision. Perhaps I should pull, though.
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- # [13:12] <decoder> Yoric: yea. i wonder if the xpcshell failure is any related. but it doesnt look like it and it didnt occur in any of my try pushes
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- # [13:14] <decoder> glandium: so if android doesnt use jemalloc, why would it fail then with yoric's patch?
- # [13:15] <decoder> wouldnt the free resolve to libc's free then?
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- # [13:16] <decoder> glandium: ah ok :)
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- # [13:31] <decoder> glandium: thx. so if a.out is not available on android, why did it work at all? I mean, all we saw was random test failures
- # [13:32] <decoder> or is that the expected symptom?
- # [13:32] <glandium> decoder: i don't know what ctypes does after that
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- # [13:32] <decoder> okay
- # [13:33] <decoder> and android is the only platform where this will break?
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- # [13:37] <glandium> decoder: i guess so
- # [13:37] <glandium> (according to the nspr code)
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- # [13:37] <decoder> ok. if it breaks other stuff too, then im fine with #ifdef MOZ_ASAN :) but i guess we'll try it with android out for now :)
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- # [13:40] <ramzi> hi does anyone know if i want to work with the android source does it work just to take the fennec files ?
- # [13:41] <ramzi> or will i need all the source files ?
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- # [13:42] <ramzi> is the question to stupid to answer ?
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- # [13:43] <froydnj> ramzi: if you want to build for android, you need the whole tree
- # [13:44] <ramzi> froydnj: thank you
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- # [13:47] <karolyi> Unfocused: so there's absolutely no way to change the behavior of the session restore?
- # [13:48] <Unfocused> karolyi: i don't know enough about session restore to usefully answer that, sorry
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- # [13:49] <Yoric> karolyi: What do you want to do with session restore?
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- # [13:50] <karolyi> Yoric: the session restore launches a new blank tab when there are pinned tabs only, i'd like to change this
- # [13:51] <Yoric> Have you filed a bug already?
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- # [13:51] <karolyi> nope, i just wanted to overlay that function, since it is normal imho, but we have a heavily modified firefox, and we do lots of overlays there
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- # [13:54] <Yoric> karolyi: Sorry, I have to log out.
- # [13:54] <Yoric> You can try discussing this with ttaubert.
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- # [13:54] <karolyi> ttaubert: ping ?
- # [13:55] <ttaubert> karolyi: yup?
- # [13:55] <karolyi> ttaubert: look above
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- # [13:57] <ttaubert> karolyi: not sure what you mean by blank tab with pinned tabs only? can you elaborate?
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- # [14:02] <karolyi> ttaubert: if you have a stored session in sessionstore.js with only pinned tabs in it, on the next startup firefox launches a new empty unpinned tab
- # [14:02] <ttaubert> karolyi: you mean, together with your pinned tabs, right?
- # [14:03] <karolyi> ttaubert: right
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- # [14:03] <ttaubert> karolyi: and the tab is only empty because you set "When Firefox starts: Show a blank page", right?
- # [14:04] <karolyi> ttaubert: nope, i set firefox to 'restore the last session'
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- # [14:10] <karolyi> ttaubert: i found out that this would be needed to overlaid, in order to prevent firefox doing that: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/nsSessionStartup.js#94
- # [14:11] <ttaubert> karolyi: I don't really think it's a good idea to replace that function
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- # [14:13] <karolyi> ttaubert: i probably would just copy it and modify the appropriate lines, 'cause the solution lies there. the problem is, it is used as an XPCOM module, so i guess it cannot be overlaid
- # [14:13] <ttaubert> karolyi: that's exactly what I mean by "not a good idea"
- # [14:13] <ttaubert> it's not like that code doesn't change
- # [14:14] <karolyi> ttaubert: yeah i know but we would need to take that risk. but i guess then there's no way to solve this problem right now, without submitting a feature request, or close that new tab manually from our addon code
- # [14:15] <darktrojan> !seen fitzgen
- # [14:15] <darktrojan> oh yeah
- # [14:15] <ttaubert> karolyi: in fact, that code changed a lot in the upcoming versions
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- # [14:16] <karolyi> ttaubert: you mean because of the skin overhaul?
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- # [14:17] <ttaubert> karolyi: no, it changes because we're rewriting parts of sessionstore
- # [14:17] <ttaubert> karolyi: the part you're looking for is this: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/SessionStore.jsm#749
- # [14:17] <karolyi> a good thing we didn't touch it in our version... yet
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- # [14:17] <ttaubert> if you pass true as the third parameter we're re-using all tabs in the window
- # [14:18] <ttaubert> if you pass false, we only add tabs
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- # [14:19] <ttaubert> karolyi: or rather that function http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/sessionstore/src/SessionStore.jsm#3927
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- # [14:19] <karolyi> ttaubert: still, i cannot overlay that function
- # [14:19] <ttaubert> right, just wanted to point you to the right code at least
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- # [14:20] <karolyi> ttaubert: well then i will wait for the session-restore-ended event and close the appearing newtab
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- # [14:22] <NeilAway> damn, mspdbsrv.exe is running out of address space
- # [14:22] <ttaubert> karolyi: sessionstore-windows-restored
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- # [14:29] <silentimp> Hi, may you vote for this bug please? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904304
- # [14:29] * NeilAway should have downloaded a 64-bit vm :s
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- # [14:29] <silentimp> On big amount of elements 3dtransforms fails.
- # [14:30] <silentimp> Elements overlapping stop working
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- # [14:30] <silentimp> so you see just a mess
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- # [14:34] <karolyi> ttaubert: there's a cryptic event name, i already forgot... need to look it up again
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- # [14:34] <karolyi> ttaubert: and i also will need to figure it out how to listen for that event
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- # [14:35] <karolyi> SSRestoreEnd or something like that
- # [14:36] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: ping
- # [14:36] <Tomcat|Sheriff> jaoo: pong
- # [14:36] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: hey, got a sec for a question related to try server please?
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- # [14:36] <Tomcat|Sheriff> ok shoot :) also edmorley might be great at that too :)
- # [14:37] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: I just pushed to try and there are more changesets than I was trying to test.
- # [14:38] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: I mean, there are changeset/revisions that I didn't have in my queue. Please see https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=2bf0d4524a3f.
- # [14:38] <Ms2ger> That's normal
- # [14:39] <Ms2ger> You're the first to push those into the try repo
- # [14:39] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: I don't the reason because It happens!
- # [14:39] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: Oh, I was guessing that.
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- # [14:39] <jaoo> Tomcat|Sheriff: Ok, that responds my question, thanks!
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- # [14:40] <Tomcat|Sheriff> :)
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- # [14:43] <edmorley> jaoo: similarly, if you push to try with several mq patches applied, then add another and push again, you'll only see the one new mq patch on tbpl (/hgweb pushlog) since it only shows the changesets that were new to the repo that push
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- # [14:50] <jaoo> edmorley: Thanks for the info!
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- # [14:51] <edmorley> jaoo: np :-)
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- # [14:55] <jaoo> edmorley: Should be a good practice to push to try only the topmost commit with the try chooser text first and them push a second time with the mq patches applied? Do you know what I mean?
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- # [14:57] <edmorley> jaoo: that would only affect the aesthetics of the push when viewed on TBPL (and use extra try resources at the same time), so best to just push once :-)
- # [14:57] <jaoo> edmorley: makes sense, that's all thanks!
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- # [15:23] <Anupkumar> dao: sir, I didn't get what u said from the comments on bug 515196.
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- # [15:24] <dao> Anupkumar: what is it you don't get?
- # [15:24] <Anupkumar> dao: implemented here: <http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/3c61cc01a3b1/browser/base/content/browser.js#l7288>; see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/tabbrowser.xml for code using it).
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- # [15:25] <dao> Anupkumar: those links were supposed to help you figure out how to use MousePosTracker
- # [15:26] <Anupkumar> dao: ok
- # [15:26] <Anupkumar> dao: sure I will work on it..
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- # [16:03] <edmorley> glob++
- # [16:03] <edmorley> suggested reviewers is awesome :-)
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- # [16:07] <Ms2ger> Indeed so
- # [16:07] <Ms2ger> glob++
- # [16:07] <Ms2ger> Where's firebot when you want to give karma
- # [16:07] <glob> heh
- # [16:08] <gabadie> does anybody can build the last mozilla-central on osx 10.9?
- # [16:08] <Ms2ger> I can't
- # [16:08] <padenot> gabadie: what is the error?
- # [16:09] <padenot> I've seen a build bustage on linux a couple hours ago
- # [16:09] <gabadie> padenot: the same as this one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=901348
- # [16:09] <gabadie> but that was fixed few revisions ago...
- # [16:10] <padenot> icu was backed out, was it relanded?
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- # [16:12] <padenot> http://site.icu-project.org/home#TOC-What-is-ICU-
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- # [16:59] <@ehsan> nsm: about the Event Pages patch, are you looking for feedback on the implementation or on the concept?
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- # [16:59] <@ehsan> (I'll give you the latter on dev.webapi anyway)
- # [16:59] <nsm> ehsan: there isn't much implementation right now, so concept please :)
- # [17:00] <@ehsan> nsm: cool, will do!
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- # [18:01] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: we do hit occasional gcc crashes on android/b2g as well
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- # [18:02] <RyanVM|Sheriff> but bug 873667 is specifically for desktop linux pgo builds
- # [18:02] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|Sheriff: ah, ok
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- # [18:02] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: "random"
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- # [18:09] <nemo> grrr. those !@#$ hidden http:// bugs, still happening.
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- # [18:09] <nemo> when all they need to do is show http:// when url bar is focused, like Opera does :(
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- # [18:09] <nemo> www.newscientist.com/article/dn24039-autism-may-make-brains-of-women-but-not-men-more-male.html
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- # [18:09] <nemo> went to this link, noticed them adding a tracking hashmark, hit ctrl-l, End, backspaced over it, then ctrl-l, ctrl-c
- # [18:09] <nemo> aaand no http
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- # [18:09] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: have there been any GCC segfaults since we upgraded to 2.7.3?
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- # [18:12] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: 4.7.3 you mean? Yes, see the last comment in the bug
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- # [18:13] <glandium> gps: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873667#c53
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- # [18:13] <glandium> RyanVM|Sheriff: not that one is a as crash
- # [18:14] <glandium> as, like assembler
- # [18:14] <glandium> not compiler
- # [18:14] <glandium> that's binutils, not gcc
- # [18:14] <glandium> comment 0 was also an as crash
- # [18:14] <glandium> but others were compiler ICEs
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- # [18:34] <gps> Mook_as: I was going to go the logging route. apparently my build doesn't have logging enabled or something weird
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- # [18:56] <msucan> ialagenchev: pong
- # [18:56] <ialagenchev> msucan: in very good very mighty
- # [18:56] <msucan> ialagenchev: which vidyo room is that?
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- # [18:57] <ialagenchev> msucan: very good very mighty
- # [18:57] <msucan> ialagenchev: found it
- # [18:57] <msucan> thanks
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- # [19:04] <gps> and I think I broke Windows builds with XPIDL refactor :/
- # [19:04] <gps> glandium: still around?
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- # [19:06] <RyanVM|Sheriff> otherwise, it's on the list for that, and that could be awhile
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- # [19:23] <mayhemer> RyanVM|Sheriff: hi, Bug 892488 will probably need to back out, there is some intermittent failure undetected before landing and I unfortunatelly need to leave very soon
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- # [19:23] <mayhemer> RyanVM|Sheriff: (from m-i)
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- # [19:23] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mayhemer: ok
- # [19:23] <mayhemer> RyanVM|Sheriff: thank you
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- # [19:24] <mayhemer> RyanVM|Sheriff: it's https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&rev=e91392042137
- # [19:24] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ok
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- # [19:25] <mayhemer> RyanVM|Sheriff: thanks
- # [19:25] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mayhemer: will you comment the bug?
- # [19:25] <mayhemer> RyanVM|Sheriff: yes
- # [19:25] <RyanVM|Sheriff> k, thanks
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- # [19:32] <froydnj> dholbert: sorry about the bogus commit messages; git-bz is a little odd about what it puts in the patch vs. the bug sometimes =/
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- # [19:32] <dholbert> froydnj, np; I figured it was tool-related and wasn't intentional. :)
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- # [19:33] <dholbert> (& wasn't sure if it was going to unintentionally end up in your landed patch)
- # [19:33] <froydnj> ...or distributes
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- # [19:34] <rforbes> so, building on windows and this makes me nervous...
- # [19:34] <rforbes> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2855030
- # [19:34] <rforbes> does this matter?
- # [19:35] <dholbert> heh
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- # [19:42] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: FYI, I just had to disable a couple timeout-prone webaudio crashtests on B2G
- # [19:42] <@ehsan> RyanVM|Sheriff: is there bugs on file for all of them?
- # [19:43] <RyanVM|Sheriff> all *2 of them :P
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- # [19:44] <RyanVM|Sheriff> i commented the bugs and referenced the general bug for tracking b2g crashtest failures
- # [19:44] <RyanVM|Sheriff> didn't file one specifically for those 2
- # [19:44] <@ehsan> cool, thanks
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- # [19:44] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: fwiw, the media & webaudio tests seem to be pretty fragile in general on b2g
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- # [19:45] <RyanVM|Sheriff> that's where most of our timeouts are coming from these days
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- # [19:45] <@ehsan> some of them might just be tests that take too long
- # [19:47] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: it's not like they exactly had a sterling reputation on desktop before being enabled on mobile...
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- # [19:57] <catlee> vlad: any idea how to automate the rdp login? the current method requires entering the password and clicking through a bunch of dialogs per instance
- # [19:58] <jimb> chmanchester: ping
- # [19:58] <chmanchester> jimb: pong
- # [19:58] <vlad> catlee: you mean the setup of it?
- # [19:58] <catlee> vlad: yeah. once you've done it once manually it works ok
- # [19:59] <jimb> chmanchester: I'm sorry --- I'm not going to be able to look at the testcompatactors.js failure this week at all. Things have piled up.
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- # [19:59] <vlad> did you try copying the connection file once it's been all done once to another machine?
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- # [19:59] <chmanchester> jimb: oh, no problem, I think fitzgen and I sorted the rest of the failures out.
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- # [19:59] <jimb> chmanchester: Oh, okay --- that's great news.
- # [20:00] <fitzgen> jimb: testcompatactors already landed :)
- # [20:00] <vlad> if that doesn't work, then, hrm. I wonder if a different/purely command line rdp client could do it
- # [20:00] <chmanchester> jimb: I had gps land for me this morning. The only hitch is I neglected to update my patch with your review feedback, so I filed a follow up to get that fixed
- # [20:00] <jimb> fitzgen: The fix? Yeah, I'm seeing bug 903801 comment 2 just now.
- # [20:00] <jimb> chmanchester: The 'if' in addDebuggee?
- # [20:00] <chmanchester> jimb: exactly
- # [20:00] <catlee> vlad: yeah, it doesn't have the password in it
- # [20:01] <jimb> fitzgen: Thanks for taking care of that!
- # [20:01] <catlee> vlad: and there are some other security settings that you need to click though
- # [20:01] <fitzgen> np
- # [20:01] <vlad> crap, hrm
- # [20:01] <jimb> chmanchester: What's the follow-up bug?
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- # [20:01] <catlee> yeah, apparently they removed support for passwords in the rdp file
- # [20:01] <chmanchester> jimb: bug 905239
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- # [20:02] <jimb> chmanchester: r=me
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- # [20:02] <chmanchester> jimb: excellent. Thank you. Sorry for my oversight there.
- # [20:02] <vlad> catlee: huh, I just found http://www.donkz.nl/
- # [20:03] <jimb> chmanchester: np, thanks for following up
- # [20:03] <vlad> catlee: automatically trusts all local resources and remote computer; saves credentials in profiles; etc.
- # [20:03] <catlee> sounds promising!
- # [20:03] <vlad> yeah
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- # [20:04] <catlee> ok, I'll give that a try
- # [20:05] <catlee> how much do we trust random utilities on the internet?
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- # [20:05] <vlad> are they signed?! (hur hur)
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- # [20:05] <vlad> :)
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- # [20:05] <vlad> I dunno, not a huge amount, but enough I think?
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- # [20:06] <catlee> oh IE, why do you make it hard to browse the internet...
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- # [20:06] <vlad> catlee: oh we're safe, it says it has no spyware
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- # [20:18] <vlad> catlee: sweet!
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- # [20:28] <gavin> khuey:
- # [20:28] <gavin> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904464
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- # [20:31] <gavin> also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904198
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- # [20:33] <khuey> gavin: thanks
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- # [20:34] <NeilAway> gavin: ping re http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/0b21e902f7a0/toolkit/components/satchel/nsFormFillController.cpp#l1.57
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- # [20:36] <Earth4> any reason we don't support TLS 1.1?
- # [20:36] <josh> we should, soon if we don't already
- # [20:37] <NeilAway> Mook_as: why would I want the vim.org binaries? they're compiled to assume that dos line endings are normal
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- # [20:37] <Earth4> someone raised the question over at bug 905258
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- # [20:39] <Mook_as> NeilAway: oh. I... didn't realize they were that crazy.
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- # [20:40] <NeilAway> gavin: do you know why the rv = was removed? that function actually throws exceptions (it shouldn't, but they're getting eaten...)
- # [20:41] <NeilAway> josh: iirc there's a pref, but we default to 1.0 only
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- # [20:41] <abr> Is anyone else getting a double boatload of link errors under OS X when trying to link libjs?
- # [20:41] <abr> Undefined symbols.
- # [20:42] <josh> Earth4, NeilAway: Might be because of bug 839310, ask bsmith
- # [20:42] <abr> These all appear to be unicode-related symbols.
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- # [20:44] <dustin> I'm working on getting OS X Mavericks set up so we're ready to start testing when it's released - and having trouble building Python
- # [20:44] <dustin> are there particular OS X gurus i can consult with?
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- # [20:44] <dustin> (I'd just ask here but it seems OT, and of course everyone else says "Mavericks hasn't been released go away")
- # [20:45] <seth> decoder: pong
- # [20:45] <josh> dustin: Can you explain your problem further
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- # [20:45] <josh> dustin: you can private msg me if this is a longer conversation, so we don't crowd #developers
- # [20:45] <abr> josh / dustin -- I'm actually a little interested in this conversation
- # [20:45] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: I'm suspecting that you have pgo bustage
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- # [20:46] <abr> Although I don't think I have any real insight to offer. :)
- # [20:46] <josh> ok, lets have it here
- # [20:46] <dustin> ok, we'll do it here :) - http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2855422
- # [20:46] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: both the linux32 and linux64 builds on the push after yours are dying like this - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26547520&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
- # [20:46] <abr> Well, you can take it to a different, ephmeral channel -- just let us know where. :)
- # [20:46] <josh> dustin: so you're building python from source, from python.org or something?
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- # [20:46] <dustin> josh: I pretty much don't know where to *start* figuring out what replaces CFNetwork.h
- # [20:46] <dustin> correct
- # [20:46] <dustin> 2.7.3, since that's what's on all of the releng systems
- # [20:47] <dustin> here's the script I'm using - https://github.com/djmitche/releng-puppet/blob/master/modules/packages/manifests/mozilla/python27-dmg.sh
- # [20:47] <josh> dustin: they probably just moved something, I could figure this out because I'm familiar with those files but I'd need access to the machien
- # [20:47] <josh> dustin: if you want to arrange for me to ssh in and look around I can do it
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- # [20:48] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: sweet, it *only* took them 2 hours to die, too
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- # [20:50] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: wat
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- # [20:50] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: I'm open to alternative theories
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- # [20:51] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: I don't see any PGO builds after 1fa1f28c6edf
- # [20:51] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: your first push
- # [20:51] <philor> unlike *someone*'s crashtest.list syntax errors, those failed fairly quickly :)
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- # [20:51] <RyanVM|Sheriff> unless your follow-up fixed linux too
- # [20:51] <RyanVM|Sheriff> philor: *ahem*
- # [20:51] <RyanVM|Sheriff> (fix already pushed :P)
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- # [20:56] <gavin> NeilAway: I do not
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- # [20:59] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: all pgo builds are clobber builds, right?
- # [20:59] <RyanVM|Sheriff> no
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- # [21:00] <gps> can you try a clobber?
- # [21:00] <gps> this failure is *really* weird
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- # [21:00] * RyanVM|Sheriff clobbers, retriggers, and gets ready to wait another 2 hours
- # [21:02] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: will you keep the tree closed just because of this? If so, perhaps you should just back out
- # [21:02] <froydnj> welp, there goes landing patches this afternoon
- # [21:02] <gps> i don't want to keep the tree closed because of this
- # [21:02] <@Cwiiis> ehsan, ping?
- # [21:02] <@ehsan> Cwiiis: hi
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- # [21:03] <@Cwiiis> ehsan, for MOZ_COUNT_CTOR, should they only go in final classes?
- # [21:03] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: the next round of pgo builds will be hitting the 2hr mark in ~20min. I'm going to wait to see what they do and then decide
- # [21:03] <@Cwiiis> CTOR/DTOR
- # [21:03] <@ehsan> Cwiiis: most likely
- # [21:03] <khuey> eh
- # [21:03] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: back me out if you need to. i'll work on some theories
- # [21:04] <@ehsan> Cwiiis: but they're just counters
- # [21:04] <khuey> you should probably put them in classes lots of people are likely to inherit from
- # [21:04] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: k
- # [21:04] <@Cwiiis> ehsan, right
- # [21:04] <khuey> that way when they forget to add them we'll still see something
- # [21:04] <@ehsan> khuey: well it depends
- # [21:04] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: i triggered some more pgo runs too to confirm it was your push
- # [21:04] <@ehsan> khuey: that way you won't know what leaked
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- # [21:04] <khuey> ehsan: you'll know that some subclass leaked
- # [21:04] <khuey> ehsan: which is better than not knowing that anything leaked
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- # [21:05] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: pretty sure I found the issue!
- # [21:05] <khuey> (this is why NonRefcountedDOMObject.h exists)
- # [21:05] <@ehsan> well yeah if those are your alternatives
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- # [21:05] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: even better!
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- # [21:06] <khuey> ehsan: sure, people should do the right thing
- # [21:06] <khuey> ehsan: but putting it in the base class is useful defense in depth
- # [21:06] <@ehsan> sure
- # [21:06] <@ehsan> Cwiiis: ^
- # [21:06] <@ehsan> Cwiiis: but it's best to put it in the final classes as well
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- # [21:07] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: this is a problem with the XPIDL patch. I doubt I'll have a fix in the next hour or two because of lunch and intern presentations. back me out
- # [21:07] <RyanVM|Sheriff> aight
- # [21:07] <@Cwiiis> ehsan, khuey, thanks
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- # [21:08] <abr> Honestly, am I the only one seeing this bustage? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2855556
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- # [21:08] <khuey> RyanVM|Sheriff: gps says backout needz teh CLOBBERz
- # [21:08] <Ms2ger> abr, as far as I know, yes
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- # [21:08] <vlad> dougt: why 1password vs lastpass?
- # [21:08] <RyanVM|Sheriff> i already clobbered inbound, so we should be good :)
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- # [21:14] <Archaeopteryx> #info Übersetzung für Version 25 und Überprüfung im Produkt durch Archaeopteryx: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=901869
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- # [21:19] <RyanVM|Sheriff> froydnj: current plan is to re-open once the b2g bustage is confirmed fix, which should be fairly soon now
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- # [21:29] <NeilAway> gavin: ah, I've tracked down the patch in question, looks like Enn made the change
- # [21:29] <gavin> yeah
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- # [21:37] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: the rt interrupts is waiting review; I haven't filed a bug for xpcom yet
- # [21:38] <jcranmer> and principals hurts my head to debug
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- # [21:42] <eeejay> is there a way to get a weak reference to an nsRefPtr (not just a plain pointer)
- # [21:42] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I can deal with principals
- # [21:43] <jcranmer> eeejay: you can use nsWeakPtr and stuff like that
- # [21:43] <tbsaunde> eeejay: if it points at something that supports nsWeakReference
- # [21:43] <jcranmer> eeejay: but the referent has to support weak references
- # [21:43] <eeejay> i thought those only worked for isupports
- # [21:43] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I believe so, yes
- # [21:44] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, gcc 4.8 seems to agree with you
- # [21:44] <tbsaunde> eeejay: I don't thing inheriting from nsISupports has anything to do with it
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- # [21:47] <tbsaunde> maybe, go read the code ;)
- # [21:47] <abr> Okay, my earlier problem appears to *again* be a clang 4.1 issue. I'm upgrading to 4.2, and think we need to seriously consider deprecating 4.1.
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- # [21:48] <jimm> NeilAway: ping
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- # [21:48] <abr> I suppose that's a dev-platform conversation?
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- # [21:48] <froydnj> because apple
- # [21:49] <abr> Yes, because Apple.
- # [21:49] <NeilAway> jimm: pong
- # [21:49] <jimm> NeilAway: hey! curious if you might know if it's possible to override tooltip display via front end code? rather than have a a native popup displayed.
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- # [21:50] <NeilAway> jimm: any particular tooltip?
- # [21:50] <tbsaunde> apple clang 4.1 is what 3.1? I wouldn't mind saying we don't support that, but it isn't that old :/
- # [21:51] <jimm> NeilAway: for example, link hover popups.
- # [21:51] <jcranmer> eeejay: if you're not using nsISupports-derived things, maybe you should use MFBT's RefPtr/WeakPtr classes?
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- # [21:51] <NeilAway> jimm: so you mean content with title attributes?
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- # [21:52] <NeilAway> jimm: ok, so the way tooltips work is that you take a xul element (say, <xul:browser>) and add a tooltip attribute to it
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- # [21:53] <NeilAway> jimm: this then triggers an event handler attachment, the event handler sets a timeout, yadda yadda, eventually it might deign to launch your tooltip element
- # [21:53] <NeilAway> jimm: so you could be sneaky and make your tooltip element's popupshowing handler always refuse to show the tooltip, and instead create your non-popup tooltip
- # [21:54] <NeilAway> jimm: or you could just implement your own timer logic
- # [21:54] <NeilAway> ah, toolkit code
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- # [21:54] <NeilAway> s/;/{/
- # [21:54] <jimm> ok thx. I think that popupshowing event might be the trick.
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- # [21:56] <NeilAway> oh, it gets worse
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- # [21:56] <NeilAway> we then copy that into a member
- # [21:56] <NeilAway> we also call a method on that passing a local, which we then copy the result to another member
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- # [22:02] <RyanVM|Sheriff> froydnj: fire away!
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- # [22:03] <ted> froydnj: sorry that took so long
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- # [22:03] <ted> pretty close, just one big thing i'm not happy with
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- # [22:06] <froydnj> ted: thanks for the review!
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- # [22:07] <froydnj> ted: I think I went with python-per-thread because I was uncertain about running the automation code multi-threaded...I think I still am uncertain about it
- # [22:07] <froydnj> ted: but if the xpcshell test stuff is already doing it...
- # [22:09] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: guess what stlport is laime and there unreleased but in git unique_ptr takes up two words :(
- # [22:10] <froydnj> two words?
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- # [22:10] <jcranmer> froydnj: sizeof(unique_ptr<T>) = 2 * sizeof(T*)
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- # [22:10] <froydnj> jcranmer: right, I understand that bit
- # [22:11] <tbsaunde> froydnj: so stdcxx / msvc / libc== use std::tople<ptrtype, deletortype> but stlport does ptrtype x; deletortype y;
- # [22:11] <jcranmer> everyone else optimizes it to sizeof(T*) in the common case
- # [22:11] <froydnj> I was more asking "why?"
- # [22:11] <jcranmer> froydnj: because they're lazy bastards and don't know how to optimize an STL implementation?
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- # [22:11] <jcranmer> git question:
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- # [22:12] <jcranmer> what is the equivalent of hg revert -r <old revision> <some file>
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- # [22:13] <froydnj> man git-checkout suggests |git checkout <id> <path...>| works
- # [22:13] <froydnj> er, maybe git checkout <id> -- <path> ...
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- # [22:13] <tbsaunde> I'd do what froydnj suggts
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- # [22:14] <tbsaunde> first probably works but second is better if there could be ambiguity between revs and files
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- # [22:17] <jcranmer> that seemed to work
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- # [22:18] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: as opposed the wonderful intuitiveness of keeping all your patches in a single stack? :-P
- # [22:18] <RyanVM|Sheriff> one of these days, I'm going to make the inbound closure message "abandon hope all ye who hope to push here"
- # [22:18] * froydnj has definitely come up with odd things about the hg UI
- # [22:18] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: I don't keep my patches in a single stack :-P
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- # [22:19] <tbsaunde> I admit the overloading of git checkout sort of sucks, but git checkout rev -- file sort of makes sense imho
- # [22:19] <froydnj> tbsaunde: haven't you heard? hg heard you liked queues, so you can now have queues of queues
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- # [22:20] <tbsaunde> froydnj: I do all my real work in git, but I still waste time by pushing patches in the wrong order when psuhing to try
- # [22:20] <froydnj> my favorite was doing |git show ${TREE_NAME}:$PATH| and having it do exactly what I expected
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- # [22:21] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I have an export script that pushes to inbound and try for me from git :)
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- # [22:22] <tbsaunde> froydnj: yeah, I should probably write one or try jlebar's again
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- # [22:26] <decoder> Yoric: are you sure you pushed the right patch?
- # [22:26] <decoder> i dont see any ifdefs there for android
- # [22:26] <decoder> oh, it's the try catch
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- # [22:27] <decoder> seems like it doesnt work that way though.. hm
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- # [22:31] <froydnj> tbsaunde: I think we wrote the same patch
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- # [22:32] <froydnj> tbsaunde: well, almost
- # [22:32] <tbsaunde> froydnj: could be
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- # [22:35] <seth> khuey: so regarding that bug we talked about yesterday evening, do you have a sec?
- # [22:35] <seth> khuey: since i know you spent some time debugging the original issue
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- # [22:36] <Yoric> decoder: Actually, I'm pretty sure I didn't.
- # [22:36] <Yoric> decoder: This one might be better: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=10ec36dabd9c
- # [22:38] <decoder> Yoric: you mean because it's busted? ;)
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- # [22:38] <Yoric> decoder: Well, this time is busted but it's not my fault :)
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- # [22:38] <Yoric> t/this time/this one/
- # [22:38] <decoder> ah ok^^
- # [22:39] <jesup> mfinkle: ping
- # [22:39] <decoder> Yoric: if we cant get this to work, then im also totally fine using some #ifdef MOZ_ASAN magic
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- # [22:40] <khuey> seth: yeah
- # [22:40] <Yoric> decoder: I'll be on PTO for one week, btw.
- # [22:40] <decoder> i went through some of the code and im considering doing that anyway for some other functions
- # [22:40] <Yoric> Starting in a few hours.
- # [22:40] <Yoric> Well, starting as soon as I'm done with my pending 1:1.
- # [22:40] <decoder> Yoric: ok. enjoy your pto. i will wrap up an ASan only patch and get it reviewed by froydnj
- # [22:40] <decoder> we can enable it on other platforms if desired, as soon as you have time :)
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- # [22:41] <decoder> froydnj: does that sound ok to you?
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- # [22:43] <froydnj> decoder: to #ifdef MOZ_ASAN the jsm? there is no better way?
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- # [22:45] <decoder> froydnj: putting #ifdef MOZ_ASAN into the jsm to use free from a.out if asan is in use
- # [22:45] <decoder> and use libc's free if no asan is in use, yes
- # [22:45] <decoder> there are also other functions where I would want to do this btw
- # [22:45] <decoder> free is just the most critical because it causes false positives
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- # [22:46] <decoder> it seems like you need some sort of ifdef anyway because on android and b2g it breaks otherwise
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- # [22:46] <decoder> or maybe Yoric's modified patch works, i can test that too
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- # [22:47] <decoder> froydnj: ill test Yoric's patch first, once the bustage is gone. if that works, ill let you review it and commit it
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- # [22:47] <froydnj> decoder: if Yoric's modified patch works, I'd prefer to use that (or if we can use != "B2G" or whatever)
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- # [22:48] <decoder> if that doesnt work, then I would prefer to go for the MOZ_ASAN solution temporarily
- # [22:48] <froydnj> decoder: works for me
- # [22:48] <decoder> until he is back
- # [22:48] <decoder> because I need to get it greenish
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- # [22:48] <decoder> ok thx =)
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- # [22:48] <froydnj> greenish is so much calmer than orangish
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- # [22:48] <decoder> right ;)
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- # [22:51] <decoder> Yoric: ill take care of pushing your patch to try again when the bustage is resolved :)
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- # [22:55] <Yoric> decoder: Perhaps I should upload that patch, then :)
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- # [22:55] <decoder> Yoric: well, I have it from the try push
- # [22:55] <catlee> vlad: I think we get even more failures with the new graphics context :\
- # [22:56] <catlee> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26554085&tree=Date&full=1
- # [22:56] <Yoric> decoder: ok
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- # [22:57] <catlee> for mochitest-1?
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- # [22:58] <vlad> mmm, no. (why don't we show all the failures at the top? why limit it to 100 :p)
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- # [22:58] <vlad> catlee: are they all failures in the webgl test suite?
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- # [23:38] <@roc> ehsan: "We are likely to address an extraordinary topic this week." says Olivier. ???
- # [23:38] <@ehsan> roc: yeah, don't know what that means!
- # [23:38] <@roc> too bad it's at 4am my time
- # [23:38] <@ehsan> :/
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- # [23:54] <rnewman> this seems to be new...
- # [23:54] <rnewman> WARNING: NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv) failed with result 0x8000FFFF: file /Users/rnewman/moz/hg/fx-team/dom/src/storage/DOMStorageManager.cpp, line 438
- # [23:54] <rnewman> WARNING: NS_ENSURE_SUCCESS(rv, rv) failed with result 0x8000FFFF: file /Users/rnewman/moz/hg/fx-team/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp, line 9611
- # [23:54] <rnewman> dozens of times on page load
- # [23:54] <rnewman> should I be worried enough to file?
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- # [23:55] <nalexander> rnewman: yes.
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