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# [00:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d10a2d94e6f4 - Chris Manchester - Bug 905707 - Don't try to print mozconfig attrs if not present; r=gps
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# [00:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9161b68c5015 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 905409 - Minimize the Web Audio #includes; r=roc
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# [00:12] <philor> evilpie: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26606460&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [00:13] <KWierso|Sheriff> evilpie: ping
# [00:13] <KWierso|Sheriff> oh hey, chatzilla, thanks for not scrolling down automatically :|
# [00:14] <evilpie> oh jesus
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# [00:14] <evilpie> back it out ..
# [00:14] <evilpie> please
# [00:14] <evilpie> and sorry
# [00:15] <philor> can't
# [00:15] <@ehsan> I'll back evilpie out
# [00:15] <evilpie> thanks
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# [00:17] <philor> but at least we restrict our clownshoes to IRC :)
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# [00:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/911fcdcadf4d - Ehsan Akhgari - Backed out changeset 3d9664b78ca7 (bug 884410) because of build bustage on a CLOSED TREE
# [00:18] <evilpie> Good deed to end the day
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# [00:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5efb6eb82909 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 905760 - Fix Box2D regression. r=efaust
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# [00:31] <gozala> margaret: is there a way to get tab by a tab.id ?
# [00:32] <gozala> I mean on fennec
# [00:32] <nemo> hate flash
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# [00:32] <nemo> hate when it completely locks up firefox in particular
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# [00:33] <nemo> hit erfworld.com, was like, hum, I didn't actually mean to go here. ctrl-l ... oh browser not responding. hm. plugin not responding stop? that sounds good, click it... nothing happens. repeat for popup a few times. browser stays locked up
# [00:33] * nemo curses and hunts for plugin-container in process management
# [00:34] <nemo> hum. processes aren't terminating. lovely.
# [00:34] <nemo> oh well
# [00:34] <nemo> *kills browser*
# [00:35] <gozala> margaret: never mind I found BrowserApp.getTabForId
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# [00:38] <nemo> greeeat. firefox not restarting. presumably due to plugincontainer etc
# [00:38] <nemo> die flash die
# [00:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/50d2adb2f34d - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 904012. Remove a bogus assertion from ThebesLayerBuffer. r=mattwoodrow
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# [00:39] <nemo> yep. flash and firefox both stuck in process list
# [00:39] <nemo> guess only option at this point is reboot. I mean, this is my XP machine, pretty sure there aren't any clever IO operations
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# [00:39] <nemo> oh well. isn't like I use it for anything but test and occasionally hitting a web comic
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# [00:39] <nemo> reboot! (dieflashdie)
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# [00:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ded622a6ad19 - Guillaume Destuynder - Bug 790923: Adds seccomp-bfp sandboxing support for B2G. r=khuey, r=gerv, r=agal, r=dhylands, r=keeler, r=imelven, a=kang.
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# [00:47] <nemo> heh. hanging on reboot too. niiice.
# [00:51] <NeilAway> nemo: I never really got into Erfworld... the first arc was meh, and I didn't like the style the second one took
# [00:51] <margaret> gozala: oh sorry, i just noticed your pings :)
# [00:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af90d4723727 - David Keeler - bug 903762 - be more strict about removing HSTS preload list entries r=cviecco
# [00:51] <gozala> margaret: np, thanks
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# [00:52] * @njn wonders if it's possible to directly send a JSAtom through an XPCOM interfaace from C++ code to JS code
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# [00:53] <tbsaunde> I suspect the best you can do is jsval, but I'd wonder why you have to use JSAtoms on the c++ side
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# [00:55] <@njn> tbsaunde: I want to pass the same string literal repeatedly, and avoid duplicating/inflating it each time
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# [00:55] <@njn> tbsaunde: I thought pre-atomizing it on the C++ side might help, but maybe not
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# [00:57] <@dveditz> jorendorff: pong?
# [00:58] <jorendorff> dveditz: hi. privmsg-ing
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# [00:58] <tbsaunde> njn: ah, I guess that's not a terrible reason to muck with jsapi, NS_LITERAL_STRING will at least get you compile time 16 bit chars so it'll just be duplicating unless we have cute tricks to create js strings for what we now to be literal data
# [00:59] <@njn> tbsaunde: well, currently I use NS_LITERAL_CSTRING so it has to inflate as well :)
# [00:59] <@njn> tbsaunde: but I really want to avoid the duplication, if possible
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# [01:00] <@njn> tbsaunde: the JS engine does have a concept of an "external" string, where the char buffer is managed externally
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# [01:00] <@njn> tbsaunde: no idea if XPCOM knows about that
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# [01:01] <tbsaunde> njn: I doubt xpconnect does since it can't now the string is in rodata
# [01:02] <@njn> tbsaunde: yeah
# [01:02] <@njn> tbsaunde: I should ask on dev-platform, and actually explain clearly what I'm trying to achieve :)
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# [01:02] <tbsaunde> fair enough
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# [01:04] <NeilAway> duplicate static CIDs cause a startup crash
# [01:04] <tbsaunde> so, if I have an object containing an array of objects is there syntax for initializing the array elements with a member initializer list?
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# [01:04] <@njn> smaug: hmm, interesting
# [01:05] <glandium> derf: ping
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# [01:06] <@smaug> njn: Bug 773520 might be also relevant
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# [01:20] <gozala> margaret: another question, what's the best way to detect weather tab I'm holding reference to is still open ?
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# [01:21] <margaret> gozala: one sec, lemme look
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# [01:22] <margaret> gozala: well, you could see if it's in this tabs array http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/chrome/content/browser.js#688
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# [01:22] <margaret> i wonder if there's a better way
# [01:23] <gozala> margaret: yeah that's what we'r doing now
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# [01:23] <gozala> was wondering if I could use tab.browser instead
# [01:23] <margaret> you could also see if it has a browser
# [01:23] <gavin> firefox desktop has a tab.closed
# [01:23] <margaret> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/chrome/content/browser.js#2840
# [01:23] <decoder> how can disabling one xpcshell test cause other xpcshell tests to fail?
# [01:23] <margaret> we set the browser to null when it's destroyed
# [01:24] <gavin> hrm, or I thought we did
# [01:24] <gavin> decoder: sometimes tests depend on each other in non-obvious ways
# [01:24] <decoder> gavin: okay but doesnt each xpcshell test run in it's own instance?
# [01:25] <gavin> decoder: yes, but they can depend on files created in another test in the "app dir"
# [01:25] <gavin> for example
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# [01:25] <decoder> hm ok
# [01:25] <gavin> oh, we have a tab.closing
# [01:25] <gavin> not tab.closed
# [01:25] <decoder> the tests arent even related as far as I can se
# [01:25] <decoder> *see
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# [01:26] <decoder> gavin: i marked a test in netwerk/ as failing and now I get these: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=11b2a432ada3
# [01:26] <decoder> these tests were green before
# [01:26] <margaret> gozala: don't know if you saw up above - you can use tab.browser
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# [01:27] <gavin> decoder: seems weird!
# [01:27] <gavin> no idea offhand :)
# [01:27] <decoder> ok thx anyways:)
# [01:30] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18fa5074845a - Justin Lebar - No bug - Fix comment in nsTHashtable.h so it no longer mentions PR_TRUE/PR_FALSE. r=me DONTBUILD
# [01:39] <jlebar> Don't we have a tagged pointer implementation in mfbt? I thought we did, but now I don't see it anymore.
# [01:39] <khuey> I wrote one once but we never checked it in
# [01:39] <jlebar> huh
# [01:40] <khuey> I ended up needing more bits than I could steal from a pointer :-P
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# [01:41] <@dbaron> is that 2 or 3 these days?
# [01:41] <jlebar> dbaron: I think jemalloc gives you 3, but I wouldn't rely on that...
# [01:42] <@dbaron> we used to have shipping code that relied on 3, but I think we removed it because there was a debugging allocator used on Mac that it didn't get along with
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# [01:43] <seth> it's much more on current 64-bit architectures, isn't it?
# [01:43] <seth> iirc only 48 bits of the pointer are actually used for addressing
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# [01:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/59c344ec4caf - Guillaume Abadie - bug 902488 - [WebGL 2.0] Occlusion queries optimizations - r=jgilbert
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# [01:45] <tbsaunde> seth: yeah, but I think I've heard its tricky to use all 16 of those on weird things like sparc64
# [01:46] <froydnj> seth: typically you use the low-end bits which are "free" due to alignment
# [01:46] <seth> tbsaunde: i can believe that. never had to deal with sparc64 =)
# [01:46] <khuey> I don't think you can steal 3 on 32 bit arches ...
# [01:46] <khuey> at least, not if you want your code to work with the system allocator
# [01:46] <seth> froydnj: yep. just pointing out that you can grab from both ends on 64-bit
# [01:47] <khuey> with jemalloc you might be fine
# [01:47] <khuey> seth: if you steal from the top end openbsd gets very angry
# [01:47] <froydnj> khuey: depends on the system allocator, too
# [01:47] <khuey> froydnj: yeah
# [01:47] <tbsaunde> isn't it also not quiet the top, the top bit is used and then the next 16 aren't or something too?
# [01:47] <seth> khuey: lol, interesting. hadn't heard about that issue; will have to look into it
# [01:47] <froydnj> linux gives you stupid amounts of alignment because sse gets used on every piece of data you might allocate
# [01:48] <froydnj> seth: there are openbsd developers ranting about mozilla's js engine somewhere
# [01:48] <seth> froydnj: i just found some mailing list posts about that haha
# [01:48] <khuey> seth: openbsd likes to allocate things all over the 64 bit space
# [01:48] <khuey> seth: 4 moar securitah
# [01:48] <khuey> and our jsval representation makes that impossible
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# [01:50] <seth> hehe, i'm loving the openbsd developer rants about this
# [01:51] <seth> fun reading
# [01:52] <khuey> froydnj: in fact, I don't think you can assume 8 byte alignment on jemalloc for sub-8 byte allocations
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# [01:52] <@njn> khuey: correct. Except on Linux.
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# [02:03] <@dbaron> khuey, we shipped code on 32-bit platforms for quite a while that took the bottom 3 bits off some pointers
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# [02:04] <khuey> dbaron: that's probably ok for large allocations
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# [02:10] <jlebar> Um. static KeyTypePointer KeyToPointer(KeyType aKey) { return &aKey; }
# [02:10] <jlebar> Can someone explain why that is not completely broken?
# [02:10] <jlebar> Shouldn't the arg be of type KeyType& ?
# [02:11] <jlebar> Oh, except KeyType already has an &.
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# [02:11] <jlebar> jeez, that is tricky.
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# [02:19] <gwagner> gavin: ping
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# [02:21] <derf> glandium: Yes, I still owe you a review (at least).
# [02:22] <gavin> gwagner: pong
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# [02:23] <gwagner> gavin: hey! we need a download manager for b2g and I was just looking at the new Download.jsm files. Is this already used on desktop?
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# [02:24] <gavin> gwagner: we're in the process of switching from nsIDownloadManager to the new js-based Download.jsm
# [02:25] <gavin> gwagner: we should be flipping the switch very soon...
# [02:25] <gwagner> gavin: I spent around 20 min to design a new one until I found the new files
# [02:26] <gavin> gwagner: it can be tested in firefox desktop by setting browser.download.useJSTransfer
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# [02:26] <gavin> gwagner: paolo (on my team) is leading the project, he might be a good person to talk to
# [02:26] <gwagner> cool. any idea how much work it is to make it work for b2g?
# [02:26] <gwagner> yeah couldn't find him on irc
# [02:26] <gavin> he's not on IRC much, but you can email him
# [02:27] <gwagner> ok will do. thx
# [02:27] <bent> njn, ping
# [02:28] <@njn> bent: hello
# [02:29] <bent> njn, hey, all your C++ to JS string conversions happen on the main thread, right?
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# [02:29] <@njn> bent: I believe so
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# [02:29] <khuey> yes, they do
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# [02:30] <bent> njn, xpc::StringToJsval is probably what you want then
# [02:30] <bent> njn, that just increments the string refcount
# [02:30] <bent> njn, and creates an external string
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# [02:30] <bent> njn, for JS
# [02:31] <jcranmer> probably the bigger issue is that it's a UTF8 string that's being passed to JS, not a UTF16 one
# [02:31] <khuey> mmm, that could be a problem
# [02:32] <@njn> I don't think the 8 vs 16 issue is a problem
# [02:32] <@njn> these are string literals
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# [02:32] <@njn> just do NS_STRING_LITERAL("foobar"), right?
# [02:32] <bent> hm, but each time they get inflated you get a new string
# [02:32] <jcranmer> ha ha
# [02:32] <khuey> right
# [02:33] <jcranmer> the idea that NS_LITERAL_STRING().get() fixes problems :-)
# [02:33] <@njn> bent: so the |description| parameter would become a Value
# [02:33] <khuey> I would make the description a wide string
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# [02:33] <khuey> and fix everything up
# [02:33] <khuey> and see what happens
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# [02:33] <khuey> I bet it's the inflation that's screwing us over
# [02:34] <jcranmer> the inflation is the problem, almost certainly
# [02:34] <@njn> khuey: you think the duplication might magically disappear?
# [02:34] <jcranmer> of course, wide strings are evil
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# [02:34] <@njn> khuey: I don't understand how that would work
# [02:35] <khuey> njn: change http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/base/nsIMemoryReporter.idl#179 to AString
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# [02:35] <khuey> njn: then make everything compile
# [02:35] <khuey> njn: and see what happens
# [02:35] <khuey> njn: I do think the duplication might magically disappear
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# [02:35] * bent does not
# [02:35] <@njn> khuey: you're not even going to give me a theory as to why?
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# [02:36] <khuey> njn: well the JS engine only uses 16 bit strings
# [02:36] <khuey> njn: so if we start with an 8 bit string and want to give it to JS we have to turn it into a 16 bit string
# [02:36] <@njn> yes
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# [02:36] <khuey> so unless we cache the 8 bit string to 16 bit string mapping somewhere ....
# [02:36] <khuey> we're going to allocate a new string every time
# [02:37] <@njn> the part I don't see is how the XPCOM translation code will realize that the wide string I'm passing this time is the same as a wide string I passed earlier
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# [02:37] <bent> i think you should atomize
# [02:37] <khuey> njn: it doesn't matter because the string is stored outside the js engine
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# [02:37] <jcranmer> njn: read xpconnect
# [02:37] <khuey> njn: if we're doing the external string stuff properly it won't show up in the JS string list *at all*
# [02:37] <@njn> khuey: so you think it'll end up as an external string?
# [02:37] <khuey> yes
# [02:37] <@njn> ok, now I half believe you
# [02:37] <khuey> :-)
# [02:38] <@njn> jcranmer: if you can tell me where to look, I'd be happy to
# [02:38] <bent> the xpcom string will be different every time
# [02:38] <jcranmer> njn: if I'm reading xpcconvert properly, we do attempt tcopreuse the string sometimes
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# [02:38] <bent> we don't hold any char* -> PRUnichar* mapping
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# [02:38] <khuey> bent: not if it's a literal string ...
# [02:38] <jcranmer> (this is only for DOM strings)
# [02:38] <@njn> bent: I can atomize easily just by moving the description creation outside of a loop
# [02:39] <jcranmer> == nsAString/nsDOMString
# [02:39] <bent> khuey, literal strings are not special here...
# [02:39] <jcranmer> they could be
# [02:39] <bent> they still get inflated at runtime
# [02:39] <bent> the compiler just bakes in the length
# [02:39] <tbsaunde> bent: uh no?
# [02:39] <khuey> we fix the inflation stuff first ...
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# [02:39] <jcranmer> we have a separate nsLiteralString
# [02:39] <jcranmer> well, we have a typedef right now
# [02:39] <khuey> then we can just use the literal as an external string
# [02:40] <khuey> bent: we're 3 minutes ahead of you in this conversation :-P
# [02:40] <jcranmer> njn: js/xcponnect/src/XPCConvert.cpp is the starting point
# [02:40] <bent> khuey, but you were wrong three minutes ago ;)
# [02:40] <tbsaunde> a compiler that use 8bit chars for u"foo" is pretty crazy
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# [02:40] <bent> tbsaunde, i might just be talking about windows then
# [02:40] <jcranmer> we can make utf-16 string literals on all platforms
# [02:40] <bent> huh
# [02:40] <jcranmer> we don't quite have knowledge of that baked in
# [02:40] <bent> since... when?
# [02:41] <bent> oh wait
# [02:41] <khuey> since dbaron made it happen
# [02:41] <jcranmer> bent: since we dropped gcc 4.2?
# [02:41] <tbsaunde> bent: really? that's crazy
# [02:41] <@njn> khuey: so I just change |description| to AString, and then |NS_LITERAL_CSTRING("foo")| to |NS_LITERAL_STRING("foo")| at all the places that call the callback?
# [02:41] <jcranmer> we still can't use raw string literals really yet
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# [02:42] <bent> i got it backwards
# [02:42] <khuey> njn: yes, I would start with that
# [02:42] <jcranmer> we can't use u"" on Windows
# [02:42] <jcranmer> but we can use L""
# [02:42] <khuey> njn: and see what happens
# [02:42] <bent> right
# [02:42] <jcranmer> so we have this nice header
# [02:42] <@njn> khuey: I can do that
# [02:42] <jcranmer> called mozilla/Char16.h
# [02:43] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: sure, we have to obfiscate with macros, but we can more or less do it
# [02:43] <jcranmer> which exposes a nice macro called MOZ_UTF16 that does what we want
# [02:43] <jcranmer> and if I finish these patches, I can land something that actually uses the bloody thing
# [02:43] <jcranmer> :-)
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# [02:44] <jcranmer> and if we simultaneously land s/jschar/char16_t/g and s/PRUnichar/char16_t/g, we can actually sensibly use actual wide string literals
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# [02:45] <jcranmer> oh, interesting
# [02:45] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: oh, gcc 4.4 supports them?
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# [02:46] <jcranmer> the requirement for making nsAString use JSExternalString requires the string to be F_SHARED
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# [02:46] <jcranmer> which literal strings don't satisfy IIRC
# [02:46] <jcranmer> so we also have to make nsLiteralString a real thing, I guess
# [02:46] <@njn> man, -j1 browser builds are slow
# [02:47] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1b2c20962f8e says yes
# [02:47] <jcranmer> njn: tl;dr, making then AStrings isn't a panacea
# [02:47] <@njn> jcranmer: ok
# [02:47] <jcranmer> njn: we also need to tweak our string code a bit too
# [02:47] <jcranmer> basically, add the F_LITERAL and optimize that in xpconnect
# [02:47] <jcranmer> AIUI
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# [02:48] <@njn> jcranmer: gotcha
# [02:48] <bent> no, we need something else
# [02:48] <bent> F_STATIC or something
# [02:48] <jcranmer> bent: why wouldn't that be F_LITERAL?
# [02:48] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: oh, nice, I seem to remember it not
# [02:48] <bent> well, once we actually have literal == static i think it will be fine
# [02:49] <bent> but we don't yet
# [02:49] <bent> er, i guess we do in most places
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# [02:49] <bent> but b2g?
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# [02:49] <tbsaunde> bent: meaning what?
# [02:50] <bent> dunno, are we sure that we don't do runtime inflation anywhere?
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# [02:50] <bent> we still have the code for it...
# [02:50] <jcranmer> the F_LITERAL would mean that the pointer is a static variable that is never deallocated
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# [02:51] <jcranmer> bent: oh, are you talking about NS_LITERAL_STRING not using u"" or L""?
# [02:51] <tbsaunde> I'm pretty sure all the ifdef cases for NS_LITERAL_STRING use some for of X"" ?
# [02:51] <jcranmer> I have a patch for that
# [02:51] <bent> yes
# [02:51] <jcranmer> 2/3 of which is r+
# [02:51] <bent> once that happens i think F_LITERAL is fine
# [02:51] <squib> http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB434/
# [02:52] <squib> oops, mistell, but still interesting
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# [02:52] <bent> but until then F_LITERAL might mean static and might not
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# [02:53] <jcranmer> bent: it actually means static in all cases right now
# [02:53] <@njn> can someone point me at XPIDL docs for things like this: |[ptr] native nsWrapperCachePtr(nsWrapperCache);|
# [02:53] <bent> you're saying this is dead code? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/string/public/nsLiteralString.h#60
# [02:53] <jcranmer> bent: yep
# [02:54] <jcranmer> bent: see the try link I pasted earlire
# [02:54] <bent> the try one?
# [02:54] <jcranmer> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=1b2c20962f8e
# [02:54] <jcranmer> the "use-char16.h" patch deletes all that code to no ill effect on any platform
# [02:55] <bent> cool
# [02:55] <jcranmer> bug 904985
# [02:55] <@dbaron> yeah, that was code for ancient platforms even when it was written
# [02:56] <@dbaron> though we did accidentally ship the PPC half of mac universal builds with it for quite some time, since it depended on an AC_TRY_RUN autoconf test
# [02:56] <@dbaron> (hint: never use AC_TRY_RUN since it doesn't work with cross-compilation, and cross-compilation matters)
# [02:56] <jcranmer> hence why I'm replacing the logic with configure-less mfbt logic
# [02:56] <jcranmer> dbaron: hint: never use configure checks for compiler features
# [02:56] <@dbaron> jcranmer, I'm not so sure about that
# [02:57] <khuey> njn: "docs"
# [02:57] <khuey> njn: haha
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# [02:57] <@dbaron> jcranmer, it makes sense if you care about supporting more than three compilers, which we used to
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# [02:57] <@njn> khuey: I'll just put a bunch of shit in |%{ C++ %}| blocks and hope my reviewer knows what's supposed to happen
# [02:58] <@dbaron> khuey, there actually used to be, in http://www.mozilla.org/scriptable/
# [02:58] <jcranmer> njn: I have one
# [02:58] <marco> is there a symbol defined only for desktop platforms?
# [02:58] <khuey> njn: :-D
# [02:58] <jcranmer> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPIDL
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# [02:58] <khuey> dbaron: yeah that got killed in one of the many mozilla.org refactorings
# [02:58] <khuey> don't know if it survived
# [02:58] <jcranmer> that documentation is actually *correct*
# [02:58] <@njn> jcranmer: thx
# [02:58] <jcranmer> (or, it was correct as of 2 years ago)
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# [02:59] <jcranmer> of course, trying to get developers to update external documentation is like pulling checks
# [02:59] <jcranmer> dbaron: MFBT has done pretty well without configure checks, <atomic> excepted
# [02:59] <@dbaron> jcranmer, but we support a lot fewer compilers than we used to
# [03:00] <jcranmer> in any case, there's a proposal floating in the C++ standards committee to standardize compiler feature testing
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# [03:01] <tbsaunde> and in 10 years we can detect that and in another we can maybe rely on it :)
# [03:02] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: the idea is to produce a recommendation concurrent with the C++14 standard
# [03:02] <jcranmer> if gcc and msvc pick up on it, we'd have usable feature tests for gcc 4.9/clang/msvc 2014
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# [03:03] <marco> I'd need to write some code that should be executed only in desktop platforms and not in b2g and android
# [03:03] <@njn> so who's the XPIDL expert? jcranmer?
# [03:03] <jcranmer> I wouldn't call me an expert
# [03:03] <jcranmer> but I can probably answer any question you have
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# [03:04] <@njn> jcranmer: I'm thinking about who should review this patch :)
# [03:04] <reuben> http://www-archive.mozilla.org/scriptable/ FWIW
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# [03:04] <@njn> jcranmer: just removing some jsapi.h includes from .idl files
# [03:05] <@njn> jcranmer: and then patching up with forward includes, and not entirely sure what I'm doing, that's all :)
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# [03:08] <jcranmer> ah
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# [03:09] <barque> ok any developers around?
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# [03:10] <reuben> only 387
# [03:10] <msaad> lol.
# [03:10] <barque> Okay then
# [03:10] <barque> great
# [03:10] <barque> When are we gonna drop the auto-adjust based on DPI annoying nonsense on Windows for Firefox ?
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# [03:11] <barque> Also it's possible for 387 AFKs to idle around :)... it's not my first day on IRC you know
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# [03:11] <barque> I think it was introduced in 22.0
# [03:11] <barque> with great grief and sorrow
# [03:12] <barque> just wondering when it's going away
# [03:12] <reuben> oh boy. I'm pretty sure this was heavily "discussed" on the Firefox newsgroups
# [03:12] <reuben> and it's not going away
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# [03:12] <barque> That's fantastic. So you guys have any plans on introducing more annoying **** to kill the browser in the coming versions? :D
# [03:13] <barque> Oh oh I have an idea, make the images 25% larger by default... and the text smaller by 25%
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# [03:13] <msaad> That's not #developers.
# [03:13] <barque> unless you have to adjust 5 options in about:config while holding down 3 keys and reciting the Bible backwards
# [03:13] <@njn> khuey, bent, jcranmer: I'm planning to reply to my dev-platform email, saying this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2865099. Sound ok?
# [03:14] <bent> lgtm
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# [03:14] <msaad> has anyone ever dealt with unions in webidl?
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# [03:16] <barque> ok look, adjusting the DPI thing in about:config also shrinks UI
# [03:16] <barque> How do I deal with this?
# [03:16] <barque> any FF developers able to tell me how to work around this?
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# [03:16] <reuben> m.d.a.f. suggests you can override the behavior it by setting the layout.css.devPixelsPerPx pref
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# [03:16] <barque> I have
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# [03:16] <barque> and it shrinks the UI
# [03:17] <barque> and what's MDAF?
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# [03:17] <reuben> mozilla.dev.apps.firefox, the newsgroup for discussing firefox development
# [03:17] <barque> ah
# [03:17] <barque> but yes
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# [03:17] <barque> it shrinks the UI
# [03:17] <barque> so it's not a complete solution
# [03:17] <barque> it shrinks the UI by just as much
# [03:18] <khuey> msaad: what do you need?
# [03:18] <barque> I'm wondering why this was added in the first place when no other browser is doing it
# [03:18] <khuey> didn't we kill DAF?
# [03:18] <gavin> we did
# [03:18] <msaad> khuey: looking forward to how to write the setter of a property that is an union in the webidl
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# [03:20] <msaad> khuey: found some good reference on TestCodeGenBinding.cpp, but it still doesn't click.
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# [03:20] <khuey> msaad: look at CanvasRenderingContext2D::strokeStyle
# [03:20] <khuey> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/canvas/src/CanvasRenderingContext2D.cpp#1330
# [03:20] <khuey> etc
# [03:20] <msaad> khuey: thanks :)
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# [03:21] <@njn> xpcexception.h is hard to type
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# [03:23] <barque> *silence*.... nice
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# [03:23] <barque> so I guess cannot reverse this madness
# [03:24] <dholbert> barque, you're talking about a very niche issue, at 6:30 pacific time, when the bulk of our developers (in the US/Canada and Europe) are AFK or asleep
# [03:24] <mjrosenb|ARM> is this notion hacking?
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# [03:25] <mjrosenb|ARM> efaust: you can just shut up already :-p
# [03:25] <dholbert> so silence isn't an entirely-unreasonable response to expect :)
# [03:25] <barque> honestly, it's a bit in your face when things are increased a good 30% in your face
# [03:25] <barque> and when no other browser is doing it
# [03:26] <barque> at least none of the other big 4
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# [03:26] <barque> nor anything on my tablet or phone
# [03:27] <jcranmer> njn: I don't have patches that will make the xpconnect use external strings
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# [03:28] <@njn> jcranmer: ok, I'll revise
# [03:29] <jcranmer> njn: bug 514173 is what is needed
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# [03:30] <avih> roc: I assume you noticed the regression at bug 900785?
# [03:30] <marco> barque: open a bug
# [03:30] <@njn> jcranmer: that's not blocked by your wide-string-cleanup work...
# [03:30] <@njn> (blocked in bugzilla, I mean)
# [03:30] <jcranmer> njn: no, it's not
# [03:30] <efaust> mjrosenb|ARM: ????????
# [03:31] <jcranmer> the wide-string-cleanup is basically just dead code removal
# [03:31] <reuben> the change was introduced because *not* following the system pref caused issues
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# [03:31] <efaust> mjrosenb|ARM: oh
# [03:31] <efaust> mhoye: bahahahahahahaha
# [03:31] <efaust> er, no. mjrosenb|ARM ^
# [03:31] <@njn> jcranmer: what's the bug for that cleanup?
# [03:31] <jcranmer> bug 9404985
# [03:31] <jcranmer> er, bug 904985
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# [03:42] <mjrosenb|ARM> mhoye: that was meant for me.
# [03:43] <mhoye> Phew!
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# [03:43] <mhoye> or something
# [03:45] <khuey> 6:45, run into build system problem
# [03:45] <khuey> clearly my work day is meant to be over
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# [03:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a8a4e293d39 - Avi Halachmi - Bug 905680: fix Aero on win7/8 (regression from Bug 900785 part 2). r=roc
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# [04:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/aeee251fab5b - Reuben Morais - Bug 905892 - Clean up some geolocation #includes. rs=dougt
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# [04:15] <evilpie> "some includes" wow this is amazing
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# [04:19] <kats> roc: re bug 901962, i was referring to nsMouseEvent::ignoreRootScrollFrame, which is only read in that one place in nsPresShell.cpp. so if i rip out INPUT_IGNORE_ROOT_SCROLL_FRAME then i can rip out nsMouseEvent::ignoreRootScrollFrame as well and so on up the chain
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# [04:20] <dougt> reuben: +1
# [04:22] <vlad> jlebar: erm yeh, pass "."
# [04:22] <vlad> or your objdir
# [04:22] <@roc> kats: ahhh, synthetic events. hmm.
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# [04:27] <kats> roc: should i leave it in then?
# [04:28] <philor> reuben: might have cleaned up a few too many, though
# [04:28] <efaust> mhoye: mjrosenb|ARM and I are apparently in a "who can be more incompetent with their IRC client" competition
# [04:28] <kats> i tried looking at where those events are generated from but i don't think i found all the spots
# [04:28] <philor> nice, failure message Of The Day: "application timed out after None seconds with no output"
# [04:29] <reuben> philor: oh shit, I should have popped my other patches when testing that. will fix in a sec
# [04:29] <philor> reuben: CLOSED TREE in the commit message
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# [04:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6bcbba818727 - Reuben Morais - Bug 905892 - Follow-up, reinclude TabChild.h on a CLOSED TREE
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# [07:21] * @njn is amused by the bug title "[Bug 725563] Crash happens as I was watching a YouTube video, then switched over to Twitter."
# [07:21] <@njn> "while downloading Facebook"
# [07:22] <@njn> "on a beowulf cluster of Raspberry Pis"
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# [07:23] <@njn> "in a plane over the midle of the Atlantic"
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# [07:23] <@njn> "during a solar storm"
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# [07:26] <markh> or "while in the airplane bathroom"?
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# [07:51] <markh> Can someone help me understand NS_DebugBreak() on non-windows? IIUC, assertions etc may wind up calling this depending on the XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK env var. It looks to me like this will either end up doing |raise(SIGTRAP);| or | asm("int $3");| on most desktop platforms, but my question is whether anyone arranges for the debugger to be broken into if NS_DebugBreak() ends up being called? ie, isn't this the entire point of that
# [07:51] <markh> function()
# [07:52] <markh> if you don't do anything special, the process just terminates best I can tell - but presumably there is something special people do?
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# [07:55] <Mook> markh: indeed, that mostly just causes things to die if you're not using a debugger.
# [07:56] <Mook> I think on linux by default there's a signal handler somewhere to sleep 30 seconds to let you attach, or something?
# [07:56] <markh> Mook: so there's no way for it to start a debugger or attach to one?
# [07:56] <markh> yeah, it's that 30 second delay I'm trying to "fix" ;)
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# [07:57] <markh> on windows, you fix it just by calling NS_DebugBreak(), and windows duitfully offers to break into a debugger for you, even if it wasn't running before
# [07:57] <Mook> ah, the ah_crap_handler, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp#72
# [07:57] <Mook> right; linux at least doesn't have a nicely centralized way of doing just-in-time debugging like that
# [07:57] <Mook> on account of there not being a strong single vendor for things :p
# [07:58] <markh> ahh - I'm trying to fix 2 different sleeps for this :) So it sounds like it can't be done. Bugger. Oh well, I'll see if I can get my patch reviewed if I wrap it in a windows #ifdef
# [07:58] <markh> thanks
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# [07:59] <Tomcat|Sheriff> good morning guys
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# [07:59] <markh> good afternoon!
# [08:00] <Mook> good, umm, whatever 11pm is!
# [08:01] <Mook> (seemed a bit late for evening)
# [08:01] <Tomcat|Sheriff> :)
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# [08:01] <Tomcat|Sheriff> yeah 8am here :)
# [08:03] <markh> 4pm friday here - nearly beer-oclock :)
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# [08:33] <markh> so - now I've a windows-specific patch that touches toolkit/xre and dom/ipc - can anyone suggest a reviewer that might be familiar with Windows?
# [08:34] <markh> (or who doesn't give a shit about it so just accepts whatever I say ;)
# [08:34] <Callek> happy timezone!
# [08:34] <markh> me things jlebar actually qualifies for the latter...
# [08:34] <markh> yeah :( Worth asking anyway
# [08:34] <Callek> markh: beltzner! no I mean bgoodger!
# [08:35] <markh> heh
# [08:35] * Callek wonders if markh was around for either of their tenure though
# [08:35] <jst> markh: as much as I hate to say it, bent is probably your guy (but he's overloaded review wise)
# [08:35] * markh isn't falling for that ;)
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# [08:36] <markh> jst: ok, thanks - it's non-urgent and very simple, so I might just stick it in his queue anyway
# [08:36] <jst> markh: ok, sounds good then
# [08:36] <markh> Callek: yeah, I was as a part-time contractor - back in 2000 or so my first bug was opened IIRC
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# [08:37] <ewong> for dom stuff.. I would've though smaug would also be a good idea..
# [08:37] <markh> maybe I'll try smaug on IRC when the timezones are working better..
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# [08:43] <Callek> markh: ooo interesting you came around before me then!
# [08:44] <markh> then kinda left for quite a few years though :)
# [08:44] <markh> I was doing PyXPCOM back then
# [08:45] <Callek> markh: in the 2000s?
# [08:45] <Callek> interesting
# [08:45] <Callek> I thought that came around quite a few years later
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# [08:45] <Callek> (Activestate still uses it though!)
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# [08:46] <markh> the "dom agnostic" stuff was much later (and has since gone)
# [08:46] <jst> markh: those were good times :)
# [08:46] <markh> jst: yep :) You helped me alot back then!
# [08:47] <jst> markh: yes, I remember working with you a good bit on a bunch of that stuff
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# [08:48] <markh> first bug I opened seemed to be bug 43282 in 2000
# [08:48] <Callek> yea pyDOM I think is not used by anyone, I do remember Activestate exploring it though
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# [08:48] * Callek didn't remember for sure seeing the agnostic support stuff finally ripped out of the tree though
# [08:48] <markh> and what ever happened to jband?
# [08:49] <Callek> markh: he became j-timberlake
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# [08:49] <jst> heh
# [08:49] <Callek> [/bad joke]
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# [08:49] <jst> markh: it's been a couple of years now, but I used to hang out with him for quite a while after he left Netscape
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# [08:50] <jst> markh: last I heard he was at Tellme, which got bought by Microsoft
# [08:50] <markh> jst: ah, interesting
# [08:50] <jst> dunno if he's still there though
# [08:50] <markh> oh, and I got commit access in August 2001
# [08:50] <markh> oops - Feb
# [08:50] <jst> markh: he was hacking on stuff unrelated to browsers, but still using spidermonkey :)
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# [08:52] <markh> he was the bent of the early naughties :)
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# [08:53] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [08:55] <Ms2ger> markh, I bet jst can review that too ;)
# [08:55] <markh> he just skillfully pointed his finger in a different direction ;)
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# [08:56] <markh> anyway, outhere for the day (and week!) - ttul
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# [09:17] <NeilAway> hmm, my vm takes 8 hours to build
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# [09:18] <ttaubert> what does the red "WINDOWS PATCH" label mean when I review a patch?
# [09:18] * NeilAway guesses DOS line endings
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# [09:21] <ttaubert> NeilAway: yeah probably, that might be why all hunks fail to apply
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# [09:23] <glob> ttaubert, CRLF line endings is indeed the reason for that warning
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# [09:23] <ttaubert> glob: yeah, our Mercurial FAQ says: "All our repositories use Unix line endings. We need a story for Windows, but right now I have no ideas."
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# [09:25] <glob> "if you use windows, you have to convert your patches to unix, here's how..."
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# [09:27] <ttaubert> glob: is that somewhere I could point a contributor to? :)
# [09:27] <glob> nope, just thinking out loud what the text should be :|
# [09:27] <Ms2ger> 'dos2unix'
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# [09:28] <ttaubert> yeah that's what I thought... ok, I'll stick with changing ones text editor settings then
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# [09:30] <NeilAway> ^^^ if Mook or RyanVM were here, this would explain why I want mozillabuild to have an appropriate version of vim
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# [09:32] <NeilAway> glob: this is vim for msys vs vim for dos line endings, no contest :-P
# [09:32] <clever> profiler.cpp:17:45: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ';' token
# [09:32] <clever> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2866669 what did i mess up?
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# [09:33] <Ms2ger> Includes?
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# [09:34] <Ms2ger> Oh
# [09:34] <Ms2ger> Drop the ; from that line
# [09:34] <clever> profiler.cpp:18:1: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before 'static'
# [09:34] <clever> Ms2ger: now its just moved down one line
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# [09:35] <Ms2ger> Progress!
# [09:35] <clever> line 18 is in the same pastebin
# [09:36] <Ms2ger> Not sure there
# [09:36] <clever> it has the same error both with and without ;
# [09:36] <clever> and the example i was basing thisn on has ; for line 17
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# [09:37] <clever> Ms2ger: i was using this old code as an example: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2866733
# [09:37] <Tomcat|Sheriff> markh: ping
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# [09:39] <clever> Ms2ger: looks like you where right, if i check the preprocessor output with -E, it didnt run the macro
# [09:39] <clever> #include "mozilla/ModuleUtils.h" fixed this one! :)
# [09:39] <clever> ok, whats left now, hmmm
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# [09:41] <Tomcat|Sheriff> markh: seems your latest push to fx-team caused a new orange https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26624968&tree=Fx-Team
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# [09:48] <clever> Ms2ger: hmmm, now i need to figure out which .h do_GetService is in, hmmm
# [09:49] <Ms2ger> nsServiceUtils.h or something
# [09:49] <clever> yeah
# [09:49] <clever> i just noticed, i have a comment at the top, #include "nsServiceManagerUtils.h" // for do_GetService
# [09:49] <Ms2ger> Ah, manager
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# [09:50] <clever> ok, now to make the entire extension to go arround it
# [09:51] <Ms2ger> That part is your job ;)
# [09:51] <clever> yep
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# [10:04] <Tomcat|Sheriff> ttaubert: i backout 67714091ce5b from fx-team
# [10:04] <Tomcat|Sheriff> seems its introducing a new orange
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# [10:06] <Tomcat|Sheriff> no problem :)
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# [10:07] <clever> but i have the contract defined in chrome.manifest
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# [10:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f99c693729b2 - Reuben Morais - Bug 904863 - Remove unnecessary remote call in Notification::GetPermissionInternal. r=sicking
# [10:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a4ad940ec6ce - Gaia Pushbot - Bumping gaia.json for 2 gaia-central revision(s)
# [10:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c8f61d0fde2e - Reuben Morais - No bug - Silence camera permission warning that is printed every time a Navigator object is created. r=mikeh
# [10:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6f265af4e3d8 - Carsten "Tomcat" Book - merge b2g-inbound to mozilla-central
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# [10:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1b16c2c729b9 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 905091 part 2 - Ensure no instructions are inserted between an instruction and its OsiPoint. r=bhackett
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# [10:46] <NeilAway> bah, accidentally got bitrotted by bug 804303
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# [10:49] <NeilAway> eek, xpidl/Makefile doesn't really nsinstall each file separately does it?
# [10:53] <Tomcat|Sheriff> ttaubert: merge mc <-> fx-team done :)
# [10:53] <Tomcat|Sheriff> edmorley: also the other merges completed
# [10:55] <edmorley> Tomcat|Sheriff: great, thank you :-)
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# [11:16] <Tomcat|Sheriff> edmorley: yeah tbpl is also slower for me today again
# [11:16] <edmorley> :-/
# [11:17] <Tomcat|Sheriff> so i can perform this non 100 % service level
# [11:17] <Tomcat|Sheriff> even without beeing in norway :)
# [11:18] <jesup> Ok, I need to have a talk with someone..... I was running a build on windows. ./mach build. I ctrl-c'd it. It stopped. That was 5 minutes ago. I still have 8 cl.exe processed (and the stop and new ones are started. And there's a background python process is 'ps', and killing it actually stops the compile......
# [11:18] <jesup> :-(
# [11:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57c6f4392a6e - Jan de Mooij - Bug 905148 - Check that a safepoint's live registers are not modified between a VM call and its OsiPoint. r=nbp
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# [11:19] <hsivonen> annevk: I find it frustrating that the encoding override is moving into a toolbar instead of getting buried deeper.
# [11:19] <jesup> s/processed/processes/
# [11:19] <annevk> hsivonen: where is this happening?
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# [11:20] <hsivonen> annevk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865916
# [11:20] <annevk> hsivonen: making a wild assumption here: sounds like some old hat is in charge of UI
# [11:20] <Ms2ger> But CJK!
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# [11:21] <hsivonen> annevk: also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598516
# [11:21] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: more like but J!
# [11:21] <annevk> hsivonen: the 99% statistic, was that only Android or also Desktop?
# [11:21] <hsivonen> annevk: Android 99.99%, desktop 99.98%
# [11:22] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: the CK part seems to be extrapolation from the assumption that CJK works alike
# [11:22] <annevk> hsivonen: okay so the "used a lot" figure is just made up by the reporters
# [11:23] <hsivonen> annevk: well, apparently "how to change the encoding" is an actual support question in Japan
# [11:24] <hsivonen> but it would be good to have actual numbers
# [11:24] <hsivonen> so much engineering just to deal with Web authors in Japan not declaring their encodings right
# [11:25] <hsivonen> e.g. getting a toolbar button update its state correctly is more costly than getting a menu item update its state
# [11:25] <annevk> hsivonen: much appreciated for staying on top of this
# [11:25] <hsivonen> because the menu item doesn't need to update while invisible
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# [11:29] <hsivonen> of course, when authors misdeclare their Japanese encoding, they take chardet out of the picture :-(
# [11:30] <hsivonen> which explains why it's more common for users to override declared encodings these days
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# [11:30] * hsivonen wishes Web authors were more careful (ha)
# [11:31] <Ms2ger> (ha)
# [11:31] <Ms2ger> (haha)
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# [11:50] <jesup> Anyone know a good utility to monitor CPU frequency/power state/etc on a Windows laptop (win7) - Lenovo W520, core i7?
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# [11:52] <edmorley> jesup: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
# [11:53] <edmorley> although depends if by monitor you mean graph?
# [11:53] <edmorley> http://www.piriform.com/speccy is also pretty good
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# [11:55] <jesup> cpu-z: cnet download.com? really? 1/4 :-) 3/4 :-( Last I recall (a while ago) they were tagged for inserting stuff in download packages.....
# [11:55] <edmorley> jesup: there's a non cnet download link
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# [11:58] <jesup> Side note: why *do* sites still bother with "www." almost 20 years after http started getting real use, and probably at least 15+ since it was the dominant traffic on the net?
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# [12:02] <annevk> marketing
# [12:03] <clever> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/71e5966a-cc18-450d-8d46-739392130816 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2867383
# [12:03] <clever> anybody happen to know why this crashed?
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# [12:12] <decoder> edmorley: i have a new regression in inbound with addresssanitizer
# [12:12] <decoder> ill try to bisect what broke it
# [12:12] <decoder> two xpcshell test failures
# [12:12] <edmorley> decoder: that was soon! :-)
# [12:12] <decoder> yea I have no clue where it's coming from now
# [12:13] <decoder> I wasted hours yesterday
# [12:13] <edmorley> decoder: I think we may be about to find out how viable having it not per push is...
# [12:13] <decoder> I disabled an xpcshell test and in the same push it appeared
# [12:13] <decoder> so I thought it could be related
# [12:13] <decoder> but it's not.. it also appears now without disabling the other test
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# [14:00] <nigelb> looks like some script kiddie.
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# [14:10] <ted> are vines (vine.co) broken for anyone else?
# [14:10] <ted> looks like they work on my mac where we don't have h.264 support in video, but are broken on windows/linux where we do
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# [14:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a68e032ca51 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 901962 - Allow touch events to hit targets outside the CSS viewport. r=roc
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# [14:35] <decoder> edmorley: is that an intermittent orange? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?jobname=asan&showall=1
# [14:36] <edmorley> looking
# [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b4b734eaa1a - Jan de Mooij - Bug 904133 - Add spilled float registers to safepoints. r=nbp
# [14:37] <edmorley> decoder: Bug 904227 is frequent at the moment, so could just be that with slightly differnet output
# [14:37] <edmorley> decoder: I'm not sure how ASan is changing the failure modes
# [14:37] <decoder> edmorley: okay thx. ill keep an eye on it
# [14:38] <decoder> edmorley: looks indeed very related
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# [14:48] <Tomcat|Sheriff> jandem: ping
# [14:48] <jandem> Tomcat|Sheriff: pong
# [14:48] <Tomcat|Sheriff> hey :)
# [14:49] <Tomcat|Sheriff> could bug 906001 realted to your part 1 checking today ?
# [14:49] <jandem> Tomcat|Sheriff: looking
# [14:50] <Tomcat|Sheriff> seems there are some failures related to js::CurrentThreadCanAccessZone(JS::Zone*)] like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26634208&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
# [14:50] <jandem> Tomcat|Sheriff: they could have been caused by bug 864220
# [14:50] <jandem> Tomcat|Sheriff: which landed yesterday
# [14:52] <derf> sewardj: Pong.
# [14:52] <Tomcat|Sheriff> ah ok wonder why this then didn't turned tbpl orange before. do you know edmorley ?
# [14:52] <Tomcat|Sheriff> seems the test was also now retriggered
# [14:52] <sewardj> derf: who would be a good person to bug w.r.t. 905078 ?
# [14:53] <derf> sewardj: slin
# [14:53] <edmorley> Tomcat|Sheriff: intermittent crash perhaps, not unusual with JS
# [14:53] <derf> (Shelly)
# [14:53] <edmorley> JS changes
# [14:54] <jimm> edmorley: is there a way to view a range of dates on tbpl?
# [14:54] <sewardj> derf: thx
# [14:54] <jandem> Tomcat|Sheriff: or bug 897655 is a more likely regressor maybe, also landed yd
# [14:55] <edmorley> jimm: you can put &fromchange=rev1&tochange=rev2
# [14:55] <edmorley> I dont think dtaes work
# [14:55] <edmorley> s/dates work/there is an equivalent parameter that gets passed to the hg pushlog extension for dates/
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# [14:57] <jimm> I think I can work with the csets thing, thx
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# [15:00] <jimm> edmorley: that doesn't seem to work for older csets
# [15:01] <edmorley> jimm: tbpl data is purged after a month
# [15:01] <jimm> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&showall=1&jobname=winnt%206.2&fromechange=c7b425deb5fa&tochange=407e267aa4ed
# [15:01] <jimm> this is from 8/8 ish
# [15:02] <jimm> maybe I'll just write some python to parse the build logs
# [15:02] <edmorley> jimm: the parameters are similar to /pushloghtml on hgweb - ie the fromchange is exclisove
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# [15:02] <edmorley> jimm: exclusive
# [15:02] <edmorley> you need to pick the rev before
# [15:03] <jimm> I picked top/bottom csets from this range - http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/shortlog/2b9d71496f60
# [15:03] <edmorley> jimm: you need to pick a push cset, not a middle of a push rev
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# [15:04] <edmorley> jimm: use https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml/33 to help
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# [15:08] <jimm> edmorley: is fromechange the earlier cset or the later cset?
# [15:08] <edmorley> the earlier
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# [15:09] <edmorley> jimm: oh, in the url above typo s/fromechange/fromchange/
# [15:10] <edmorley> :-)
# [15:10] <jimm> doh!
# [15:10] <jimm> ah there we go :)
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# [15:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/35afcb18f192 - Sahil Chelaramani - Bug 662669 - nsCharSeparatedTokenizer/nsWhiteSpaceSeparatedTokenizer should use RangedPtr. r=Waldo
# [15:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d959083ba5f6 - Arnaud Sourioux - Bug 903112 - Replace this with MOZ_THIS_IN_INITIALIZER_LIST() in gfx/. r=jfkthame
# [15:15] <_AxS_> Hey all ... is it possible to build (mozjs specifically but everything generally, i guess) against the system-installed libicu* libs? I've done a quick scan through configure.in and I don't see any easily-set --with or --enable, nor any easily overridden environment vars....
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# [15:17] <_AxS_> I don't want to disable the localization, i just want to disable the dependency/building of the embedded icu
# [15:17] <froydnj> _AxS_: I think there's a bug for that, but I don't think it's possible atm
# [15:17] <froydnj> really unfortunate :(
# [15:18] <_AxS_> 'k. time to get a patch in order...
# [15:18] <jfkthame> _AxS_, i think you're looking for bug 851992
# [15:18] <jfkthame> looks like there's a patch there, although i don't know the status of it
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# [15:19] <_AxS_> jfkthame: yep, that's exactly the bug i'm looking for, thanks!
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# [15:34] <jez> Is there any documentation for the "progress" attribute on tabs in SeaMonkey's chrome?
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# [15:37] <jez> i could do with an equivalent to firefox's .tab-throbber[progress] but it doesn't seem to be because sometimes the progress attribute exists when a page is not loading
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# [15:42] <_AxS_> jfkthame: froydnj: patch doesn't apply automatically against beta, but otherwise seems good -- testing now... thanks for the pointers!
# [15:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2e63863adeb8 - Tim Taubert - Bug 898744 - Make browser_394759_basic.js wait for tab invalidation before closing the window. r=yoric, a=test-only
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# [15:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cb6016504fc8 - Adrian Tamas - Bug 886299 - Make testShareLink more resiliant. r=gbrown, a=test-only
# [15:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/747a33753093 - Paul Rouget - Bug 851296 - Intermittent devtools/responsivedesign/test/browser_responsiveui.js. r=jwalker, a=test-only
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# [15:48] <jhorak> Hi all. Is there check in xpcshell js tests to ensure that C function return with NS_OK?
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# [15:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0415635dba49 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 35afcb18f192 (bug 662669) for build failures
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# [16:07] <nemo> huh. I've been getting massive memory usage by plugin-container.exe lately
# [16:07] <nemo> even though I'm on pages w/ absolutely no flash, or anything
# [16:07] <nemo> Single page open, and windows is giving me a low memory warning.
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# [16:07] <jimm> edmorley: is there any way to tell tbpl pages not to refresh automatically?
# [16:08] <nemo> location: C:\Users\admin\Desktop\firefox.nightly\tobedeleted
# [16:08] <nemo> Oo
# [16:09] <nemo> moz1438.tmp
# [16:09] <nemo> Created: Today, ‎August ‎16, ‎2013, ‏‎8 minutes ago
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# [16:11] <edmorley> jimm: if you checkout the tbpl repo (https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/), modify 20s to 9999999 at https://hg.mozilla.org/webtools/tbpl/file/a450877aae00/js/Config.js#l10 , and then run index.html from the local filesystem, then yes... :-)
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# [16:11] <edmorley> jimm: (it will load production data automatically)
# [16:11] <jimm> ah sweet, thanks
# [16:11] <gavin> RyanVM: pong
# [16:11] <gavin> lsblakk: pong
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# [16:12] <RyanVM> gavin: I ended up just commenting in the bug
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# [16:13] <gavin> RyanVM: which?
# [16:14] <RyanVM> gavin: bug 896986
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# [16:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/20a7cbb1e01f - Gervase Markham - Bug 863304 - Add LGPL to about:license. DONTBUILD.
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# [16:25] <gwagner> RyanVM: welcome to gitland :)
# [16:25] <RyanVM> gwagner: what a horrible introduction
# [16:25] <RyanVM> gwagner: not used to looking at Travis CI
# [16:26] <Ms2ger`> Is there another?
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# [16:27] <gwagner> RyanVM: yeah everyone shares the same first git experience. and usually travis is wrong but you already learned the important lesson: don't trust travis
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# [16:28] <RyanVM> gwagner: well, I was worried because the auto-merge button was yellow, but I figured that if Travis was anything like tbpl, intermittent failures probably happen. And the failures looked unrelated, so I went ahead and merged. Then I got the email that tests were failing. And then without looking at previous runs, I reverted. Then I looked and realized that they were pre-existing failures. *sigh*
# [16:29] <gwagner> RyanVM: pretty soon you will be an expert!
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# [16:30] <gwagner> RyanVM: but yeah the current situation is bad
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# [16:30] <gwagner> RyanVM: and I don't even know how to retrigger travis
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# [16:31] <RyanVM> gwagner: but yeah, other than the ugly "revert the revert" option, the only real option is to have paul open a new PR, right?
# [16:31] <bkelly> gwagner, on the travis page there is a rebuild option under the settings in the upper right
# [16:32] <gwagner> oh? I blame the UI. I was looking for it twice
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# [16:32] <bkelly> gwagner, sorry its "Restart Build"
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# [16:33] <gwagner> bkelly: thx!
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# [16:35] <bkelly> gwagner, the one advantage travis has at the moment is that we can at least try a build before committing... currently we have now gaia try support on tbpl as far as I know
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# [16:36] <bkelly> ^now^no
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# [16:36] <gwagner> bkelly: I think they are hidden bug you can still unhide them
# [16:36] <gwagner> bkelly: if you add &showall=1 at the end or the url
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# [16:37] <bkelly> gwagner, the tests are run on commit... but no way to push a trial patch: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=868605
# [16:37] <gwagner> bkelly: well thats only for gecko changes
# [16:37] <bkelly> yea
# [16:37] <gwagner> I keep saying we should move it to mercurial :)
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# [16:38] <bkelly> I try to stay out of holy wars :-)
# [16:38] <gwagner> yeah I wouldn't say it in #gaia :)
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# [16:41] <gwagner> bkelly: I can't restart a build. That option is gray
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# [16:43] <ericjung> using mxr, how can i find the .cpp which implements nsIDNSService?
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# [16:44] <ericjung> specifically, nsIDNSService::resolve()
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# [16:50] <jfkthame> ericjung, assuming the impl of nsIDNSService is likely to be nsDNSService, try http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=nsDNSService::resolve
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# [17:00] <ted> jimm: i really think you should do some local exploratory testing with metro mochitests
# [17:00] <ted> introduce an artificial hang and see what happens
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# [17:01] <jimm> yep, that's what I'm doing now
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# [17:01] <ted> could be something weird due to the harness stub exe you run
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# [17:01] <ted> (also good point re: the harness stub, we'll only actually wind up with a stack of the stub)
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# [17:02] <jimm> that mozharness needs to be updated I think, according to the log runtests was using a 1200 second timeout, and mozharness timed out in 1000.
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# [17:02] <jimm> *mozharness timeout
# [17:02] <ted> er, i don't think so
# [17:03] <ted> i think the 1200 seconds is buildbot
# [17:03] <ted> the default mochitest timeout is 330 seconds
# [17:03] <ted> (because the JS harness has a 300 second timeout)
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# [17:04] <jimm> ted: hmm, then the test harness was frozen too I guess
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# [17:05] <jimm> something waits 1000 seconds -
# [17:05] <jimm> ERROR - timed out after 1000 seconds of no output
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# [17:05] <ted> yeah, i think that's mozharness
# [17:05] <ted> which gets run via buildbot, which has its own timeout
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# [17:05] <ted> not sure why mozharness didn't just exit after its timeout, maybe a different bug
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# [17:06] <jimm> so if runtests.py is supposed to timeout after 330 seconds, that part failed for some reason.
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# [17:07] <jimm> but that's running in a separate python script, so that seems odd a littl odd
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# [17:08] <jimm> guess I should confirm we actually set a 330 timeout for metro tests
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# [17:09] <ted> i didn't see anything in the log overriding the default
# [17:09] <ted> but maybe something goofy is happening
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# [17:10] <jimm> probably has to do with the use of metrotestharness.exe. if possible, I'll have to communicate the process id of the browser we launch back, and the automation script will have to get stacks from that.
# [17:11] <bkelly> gwagner, can you give me a link to the travis build you are looking at?
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# [17:12] <gwagner> bkelly: https://travis-ci.org/mozilla-b2g/gaia/builds/10223642
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# [17:12] <bkelly> gwagner, hmm... the option is there for me... are you logged in to travis?
# [17:13] <bkelly> gwagner, and for right now I can restart it for you
# [17:14] <gwagner> bkelly: nah it's ok. I just looked at the one PR I currently have
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# [17:14] <gwagner> bkelly: oh right travis wants to have access to all my github profile, followers, private email… I declined it
# [17:15] <gwagner> so I am not logged in
# [17:15] <bkelly> gwagner, ok... not sure if that is the cause, but could be
# [17:16] <gwagner> probably
# [17:16] <bkelly> gwagner, I know how to trigger a build against the master branch from github side, but not for a pull request
# [17:16] <bkelly> gwagner, possibly a force push to the PR branch would trigger it
# [17:17] <gwagner> yeah I know thats an option. but a lame one :)
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# [17:17] <bkelly> gwagner, seems pretty similar to the force push to hg.mozilla.org/try to me :-)
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# [17:18] <bkelly> but I definitely don't want to be in the business of defending travis
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# [17:26] <jesup|laptop> Cute
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# [17:51] <@ehsan> yeah
# [17:51] <@ehsan> __clang_major__ and __clang_minor__ don't really mean anything
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# [17:58] <daleharvey> so in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsDefaultURIFixup.cpp#783
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# [17:59] <daleharvey> it says 'nonQualifiedHost?some args' is not a keyword formatted string, but if I enter that in firefox it does a keyword search, anyone know where that logic is?
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# [18:02] <jaws> RyanVM: u sure? :)
# [18:02] <RyanVM> jaws: i commented in the bug, so feel free to answer there :)
# [18:03] <jaws> ok
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# [18:30] <Mook_as> bkelly: does about:memory not work? :p
# [18:30] <Mook_as> (the Load... button)
# [18:31] <bkelly> Mook_as, thanks! I'm obviously blind :-)
# [18:32] <qDot> So, um, anyone noticed that we stopped updating launchpad with nightlies and auroras well over a month ago? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
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# [18:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f676984e6e04 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 2e63863adeb8 (bug 898744) for mochitest-bc orange. a=backout
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# [19:04] <froydnj> because compatibility
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# [19:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2373a907f91e - Alexandre BM - Bug 905449: Make helper-function signatures in nsStyleAnimation more consistent about coefficient-ordering. r=dholbert
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# [19:09] <decoder> edmorley: according to my bisection, https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b9c5de825c6 is the regressor
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# [19:10] <decoder> chmanchester: ping
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# [19:10] <chmanchester> decoder: pong
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# [19:10] <decoder> chmanchester: the changeset above shows up as regressing addresssanitizer xpcshell tests
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# [19:10] <decoder> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=b7a423bc4b04
# [19:10] <decoder> this is the failure (the orange X, ignore the orange B)
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# [19:11] <decoder> since the failing tests are in devtools, I assume the bisect makes sense
# [19:11] <froydnj> decoder: that *seems* more like it'd be a problem with the js engine than with those tests...?
# [19:11] <decoder> froydnj: i dont know. i just know it was working before his commit^^
# [19:11] <decoder> i need it green
# [19:11] <hub> if I call Date.Now() in Javascript, is it consistent with PR_Now() (in C++ code) ?
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# [19:12] <Ms2ger> No
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# [19:12] <decoder> froydnj: chmanchester: im not the right person to figure out why these two tests fail now with the devtools change... thats why I did the bisect :)
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# [19:13] <chmanchester> decoder: I'll look into it. We made a change earlier this week that made more failures visible, this looks like it could be such a failure.
# [19:13] <decoder> chmanchester: thanks. it only appears on ASan for some reason. maybe there is an underlying issue that just isnt visible on regular build
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# [19:13] <decoder> if you need help getting such a build, let me know
# [19:14] <decoder> (or just download the one from the try push)
# [19:14] <decoder> ill file a bug for this now and cc you
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# [19:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/23d593b49223 - Terrence Cole - Bug 902218 - Suppress static analysis hazard from virtual call to DescribeGenericObjects; r=sfink
# [19:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f325ded12169 - Terrence Cole - Bug 902224 - Suppress static analysis hazard from virtual call to NoteCustomGCThingXPCOMChildren; r=sfink
# [19:15] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/951f2d4d1740 - Terrence Cole - Bug 902210 - Suppress the invalid exact rooting hazard in GetWeakmapKeyDelegate; r=sfink
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# [19:18] <chmanchester> decoder: ok. How would I get an ASAN build for max os x if I wanted to debug this?
# [19:18] <chmanchester> *mac
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# [19:20] <dholbert> chmanchester, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Building_Firefox_with_Address_Sanitizer
# [19:20] <chmanchester> dholbert: ty
# [19:21] <decoder> chmanchester: what dholbert said, *but*
# [19:21] <decoder> you might want to use a newer LLVM/Clang/ASan revision than mentioned in the docs
# [19:21] <decoder> one second
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# [19:22] <decoder> chmanchester: try is using r185949
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# [19:22] <decoder> i did not test this with macosx.. but other people are building on macosx too. so if you run into trouble, just ping me here
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# [19:22] <decoder> and we'll figure it out
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# [19:22] <chmanchester> decoder: ok. sorry, is r185949 an llvm rev?
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# [19:24] <dholbert> chmanchester, (yes)
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# [19:24] <decoder> chmanchester: yes :) llvm, clang, compiler-rt
# [19:24] <chmanchester> decoder: thanks
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# [19:25] <decoder> chmanchester: in the document, it somewhere says REV=176869.. just use the newer rev instead there
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# [19:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3c60eec96230 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 895294 - Make ImageDocument OverrideBuiltins. r=peterv
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# [19:28] <chmanchester> decoder: are there plans to get ASAN running somewhere that will be visible enough we will be able to see if we regress it?
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# [19:29] <Ms2ger> Hah
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# [19:29] <Ms2ger> chmanchester, https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?showall=1&jobname=asan
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# [19:31] <corey> Huh, my Android builds (on OS X) are broken today.
# [19:31] <corey> mozilla-central/media/webrtc/signaling/src/sipcc/cpr/darwin/cpr_darwin_init.c:115:21: fatal error: sys/msg.h: No such file or directory
# [19:31] <cpeterson> corey: I've seen that webrtc build break often.
# [19:32] <cpeterson> corey: the webrtc configure seems to get confused when you are cross-compiling
# [19:32] <jesup> corey: A bunch of stuff was checked in by gaston (or for him) to make webrtc work on *BSD; likely it's that.
# [19:32] <cpeterson> corey: usually a clobber "fixes" the problem
# [19:33] <corey> I thought I saw it autoclobber on this build, but I'll try again.
# [19:33] <chmanchester> Ms2ger: so that's a no, then?
# [19:33] <jesup> Yeah, it shouldn't be building darwin on Android. The BSD changes (which likely use Darwin code for the BSDs) may have messed up the gyp files
# [19:34] <ted> whee
# [19:34] <jesup> corey: start with a clobber
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# [19:34] * ted bets it's that mozmake.py change he reviewed
# [19:35] <jesup> Also, .gypi-only changes dont' trigger a re-run of mozmake.py; a .gypi change with no .gyp change needs to touch CLOBBER
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# [19:35] <jesup> ted: did you see that ^C'ing a mach build that's compiling files doesn't actually kill pymake, and it keeps compiling?
# [19:36] <jesup> on windows
# [19:36] <ted> jesup: heh, i did not
# [19:36] <ted> jesup: did we not fix that?
# [19:36] <jesup> I need to file on it
# [19:36] <jesup> Was that an older bug?
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# [19:37] <jesup> ted: sorry, context: did we not fix what?
# [19:37] <ted> i remember talking about it
# [19:37] <ted> the .gypi issue
# [19:37] <jesup> No, it's not fixed
# [19:37] <jesup> We did get it to reliably re-gyp on .gyp changes
# [19:37] <tbsaunde> man, perf doesn't like being handed a 3.5g data file
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# [19:40] <corey> cpeterson jesup: oops, it didn't clobber the first time (just re-ran configure). If my new build is still running in a few minutes it should be okay.
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# [19:42] <tbsaunde> froydnj: going to land your atomics patch now?
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# [19:51] <froydnj> tbsaunde: sometime today
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# [19:55] <gozala> margaret: is there a way to pin / unpin tabs on fennec ? I see some options in the code, but I don't remember anything like that in UI
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# [19:56] <decoder> chmanchester: yes, actually that failure is the only orange left that prevents us from doing that
# [19:56] <decoder> we're trying to make it visible on tbpl with tests enabled
# [19:56] <decoder> still hashing out frequency etc with sheriffs and releng
# [19:56] <decoder> but green tree is a prerequisite of course
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# [19:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/339041b86edc - Tom Schuster - Bug 884410 - Remove JS_ValueToECMAInt32 and replace it with JS::ToInt32. r=terrence
# [19:57] <margaret> gozala: you're right, there isn't anything in the ui, the "pinned" stuff in there is something for web apps
# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fad18329282a - Tom Schuster - Bug 905761 - Proxy nsDefaultURIFixup::KeywordToURI to the parent. r=smaug
# [19:57] <margaret> mfinkle would know more
# [19:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fd000703ace - Tom Schuster - Bug 905448 - Don't assert when URI is wrong during loading. r=smaug
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# [19:58] <gozala> mfinkle: margaret another thing I have being looking for is a way to make thumbnail of the tab content
# [19:59] <gozala> mfinkle: margaret would you have some pointers I can look at ?
# [19:59] <mfinkle> gozala, we use the widget code to make thumbnails
# [19:59] <mfinkle> it's not done in JS anymore
# [20:00] <mfinkle> as for pinning tabs, we need to talk to UX about how to proceed there
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# [20:00] <mfinkle> on mobile, pinning might be different use case than on desktop
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# [20:00] <gozala> mfinkle: for thumbnails is there way to call to java to get them ?
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# [20:00] <mfinkle> gozala, not easily, but we could add one
# [20:01] <mfinkle> the downside is the messaging is JSON based, so the image gets big when converted to JSON
# [20:01] <gozala> mfinkle: but how does start page displays them ?
# [20:01] <mfinkle> we also store them in a DB, which could be accessed from JS
# [20:01] <mfinkle> gozala, the start page is 100% java
# [20:01] <gozala> mfinkle: I see
# [20:02] <mfinkle> gozala, what's your usecase?
# [20:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3a65a24def34 - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 897532. Add support for better filtering in Azure. r=bas
# [20:02] <mfinkle> something for dev tools?
# [20:02] <gozala> mfinkle: ok I'll create a bug and we can discuss further there
# [20:02] <gozala> mfinkle: well our API is not fully feature complete on fennec
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# [20:02] <gozala> just wanted to fill up those gaps
# [20:02] <mfinkle> gozala, cause i am looking to add some JS side screenshot code
# [20:02] <mfinkle> for a different project
# [20:03] <mfinkle> but maybe we could expose the widget screenshot code to JS
# [20:03] <mfinkle> it could be faster
# [20:03] <mfinkle> cc me on bugs
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# [20:03] <gozala> mfinkle: will do, thanks
# [20:03] <jesup> mfinkle: FYI, I have a chromecast
# [20:04] <mfinkle> jesup, damn you!
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# [20:04] <jesup> For WebRTC screen-sharing investigation
# [20:04] <mfinkle> i mean, great!
# [20:04] <jesup> Thanks to Amazon
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# [20:04] <mfinkle> jesup, i have been playing around with cheapcast and leapcast until mine gets here
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# [20:04] <jesup> aha, you don't have one yet
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# [20:04] <jesup> didn't realize that
# [20:04] <mfinkle> jesup, nope!
# [20:05] <jesup> ETA? Pretty back-ordered I've heard
# [20:05] <mfinkle> end of aug
# [20:05] <jesup> Mine arrive Monday IIRC
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# [20:06] <mfinkle> at least one of us has one now!
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# [20:06] <jesup> I've verified it works with Chrome and my android phone/tablet. Doesn't look like chrome on android will talk to it
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# [20:07] <mfinkle> jesup, exactly - fennec has a shot to be first
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# [20:07] <mfinkle> jesup, if you get time, you could try the test build i have in the bug
# [20:07] <jesup> I haven't looked, but I understand they're using their tab-sharing API to encode tabs in webrtc
# [20:08] <mfinkle> to see if simple Youtube integration works
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# [20:08] <mfinkle> jesup, yes - that's what they are doing for tab mirroring
# [20:08] <mfinkle> they say it is too CPU intensive for mobile
# [20:08] <jesup> sure, I can try that. Samsung Galaxy S4
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# [20:09] <mfinkle> the youtube part is simply the phone passing the youtube URL to the chromecast
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# [20:09] <mfinkle> nothing very difficult
# [20:09] <mfinkle> tab mirroring is more intensive
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# [20:09] <jesup> mfinkle: ummmmm, if it was, I think it would be too intensive for video calls. But maybe it's the resolution... Hmmm with a screenshare, for most things frame rate isn't critical, and most of the screen doesn't change anyways.
# [20:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/627e7121da84 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 905723 - Remove MForceUse. r=nbp
# [20:10] <mfinkle> jesup, i agree
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# [20:10] <mfinkle> worth trying out
# [20:10] <mfinkle> heck, sharing tab content would work beyond just chromecast
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# [20:11] <mfinkle> you could use it for regular webrtc sharing
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# [20:11] <jesup> and that was in 1998-2002
# [20:11] <mfinkle> :)
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# [20:12] <jesup> screen sharing -- the issues there are largely security/privacy/UI issues; with an "authenticated" device those largely don't show up
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# [20:13] <jesup> You'll note tab-sharing/screen-sharing on Chrome desktop is behind a flag (due to their security people have a fit when they heard about it, from what I hear)
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# [20:20] <decoder> chmanchester: that is just a single xpcshell test failing there right? the trace from toolkit/devtools/server/tests/unit/head_dbg.js is not an own test
# [20:20] <decoder> i initially read it as two failures
# [20:20] <decoder> but they seem to be related
# [20:21] <chmanchester> decoder: yes, test_sourcemaps-06.js is the file failing
# [20:21] <decoder> ok
# [20:21] <chmanchester> when I file fails, the entire output of the process is printed. The next two failures are within the delimiters for the process output
# [20:22] <decoder> ah got it
# [20:22] <chmanchester> one of them prints a source file as a diagnostic message, that's cute
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# [20:22] <chmanchester> or would be
# [20:22] <decoder> im already looking forward to hearing the reason why this is asan only.. i can think of multiple things.. timing, memory corruption problems, over recursion, stuff like that
# [20:23] <decoder> all not desirable ^^
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# [20:23] <chmanchester> fitzgen: ^
# [20:25] <fitzgen> in a meeting
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# [20:29] <bent> BenWa, ping
# [20:30] <shilpan> does anyone know if we can save from cache using downloads.jsm?
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# [20:31] <BenWa> bent: pong
# [20:31] <gozala> mfinkle: few more questions
# [20:32] <bent> BenWa, hey, i can't get the profiler to work today... the symbolification server is throwing some kind of error?
# [20:32] <gozala> is BrowserApp considered to be an application wide thing or window specific
# [20:32] <bent> BenWa, any idea what's up?
# [20:32] <gozala> mfinkle: I know there's only one window in fennec but
# [20:32] <gozala> still
# [20:33] <mfinkle> gozala, window specific
# [20:33] <BenWa> bent: vladan is looking into it. It appears to not recover from broken sockets and eventually can't respond to incoming connection. Down side of using python simple http server I guess
# [20:33] <mfinkle> since it lives in browser.xul and manages the "tabs" in that window
# [20:33] <bent> BenWa, is it required even if i disabled stackwalking?
# [20:34] <BenWa> bent: Yes because we still symbolicate the PCs. If you bypass the timeout by changing the symbol server URL to something like localhost
# [20:34] <BenWa> You can bypass*
# [20:34] <Optimizer> Todays, windows 7 nightly is non aero for me
# [20:34] <Optimizer> can someone else reproduce ?
# [20:34] <bent> BenWa, but then what happens to the profile?
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# [20:35] <BenWa> bent: Any native code will remain as addresses
# [20:35] <gozala> mfinkle: ok fare enough, but then it's strange that Tab is defined there too http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/chrome/content/browser.js#2546
# [20:35] <BenWa> So you'll get like 0xdeadbeef xul.dll
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# [20:35] <gozala> mfinkle: my next question was is there simple way to get access to that constructor from bootstrap js ?
# [20:35] <bent> BenWa, ok
# [20:36] <BenWa> bent: There's no automatic way to resymbolicate a profile but in theory all the information should be there if you wanted to resolve the addresses later when the server comes back up (or manually from the FTP server)
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# [20:37] <gozala> mfinkle: my reasoning there is I would like to branch code logic based of
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# [20:37] <gozala> if (tab instanceof Tab) … else if (isXULTab(tab)) do that ...
# [20:37] <gozala> mfinkle: ^
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# [20:39] <bent> BenWa, using localhost triggered a different error
# [20:39] <bent> still no profile
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# [20:39] <BenWa> bent: the error is expected but the profile should open. Check the js error console?
# [20:39] <bent> you're going to love it:
# [20:39] <bent> [11:42:32.550] geckoprofiler: An exception occurred.
# [20:39] <bent> undefined: undefined
# [20:39] <bent> undefined undefined
# [20:39] <bent> Traceback (most recent call last):
# [20:40] <BenWa> Argg, why is our Exception reporting soo bad :( I want my traceback
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# [20:45] <Optimizer> any one on windows 7 ?
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# [20:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ab1c5795b4f - Adrian Lungu - Bug 882516 - Use AF_UNSPEC cached entries for AF_INET and AF_INET6 DNS requests, if possible. r=sworkman
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# [20:51] <KWierso|Home> Optimizer: is win8 close enough?
# [20:51] <Optimizer> no
# [20:52] <Optimizer> win 8 does not have aero
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# [20:52] <KWierso|Home> ah
# [20:52] <Optimizer> my today's windows 7 Nightly also does not have aero :(
# [20:52] <KWierso|Home> Optimizer: iirc, a fix should be in the next nightly
# [20:52] <Optimizer> oh is it known ?
# [20:52] <KWierso|Home> I think it just missed the cutoff for the current one
# [20:52] <KWierso|Home> I saw chatter on mozillazine about it
# [20:52] <Optimizer> Yokatta
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# [21:19] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: ping
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# [21:19] <@ehsan> RyanVM|Sheriff: hi
# [21:19] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: hi, fyi, the webaudio #include patch doesn't apply to aurora at all - presumably due to the giant hunk of patches which got backed out earlier
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# [21:19] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: will land along with the rest once approvals are granted
# [21:19] <@ehsan> oh
# [21:20] <@ehsan> sure
# [21:20] <@ehsan> sorry, I thought that stuff is now landed
# [21:20] <RyanVM|Sheriff> not yet :)
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# [21:20] <@ehsan> it's frustrating how long it takes to get approvals :(
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# [21:21] * Ms2ger wonders why all this webaudio stuff would ever apply for backporting
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# [21:22] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: because we want to ship in 25
# [21:23] <Ms2ger> Why?
# [21:23] <@ehsan> because we're ready?
# [21:23] <froydnj> because they found some masochistic backporters
# [21:23] <Ms2ger> Clearly not
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# [21:23] <Ms2ger> Because you keep backporting stuff
# [21:23] <Ms2ger> That's the definition of "not ready"
# [21:24] <@ehsan> well, we'll never stop modifying that code, doesn't mean we should never ship it!
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# [21:25] <Ms2ger> Sure
# [21:25] <Ms2ger> So why modify it on aurora?
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# [21:25] <Ms2ger> Either you can ship what we cut at the last merge, or you can't
# [21:25] <@ehsan> we can't
# [21:25] <Ms2ger> Well, then don't
# [21:26] <@ehsan> but we do this kind of things for stuff that have been on pre-release channel for a long time
# [21:26] <Ms2ger> Get it ready on central, and when it's ready on central, then ship it
# [21:26] <@ehsan> what's the benefit of doing that?
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# [21:26] <@ehsan> we keep stuff on channels to get testing!
# [21:26] <@ehsan> we don't do that to avoid backporting
# [21:26] <Optimizer> because 25 is going to be ESR ?
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# [21:26] <@ehsan> no it's not
# [21:26] <@ehsan> 24 is
# [21:26] <Ms2ger> I'm not sure what you're saying
# [21:26] * @ehsan doesn't care about ESR
# [21:26] <Optimizer> so backport to beta !
# [21:27] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: this has been on nightly+aurora for several months, and it's ready to go to beta
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> The idea of the channels is that you land stuff on central, and then it rides the trains
# [21:27] <@ehsan> there's no point in waiting for beta 26 to avoid backports
# [21:27] <dholbert> Ms2ger, though we do discover bugs on aurora and backport fixes if they're small & well-tested
# [21:27] <Ms2ger> Yes
# [21:27] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: not always, see the part about this being on nightly and aurora for several cycles ;)
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> Still not sure what you mean by that
# [21:28] <@ehsan> iirc it has been on aurora for 3 or maybe 4 cycles
# [21:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/09274cc38453 - Andrey Zaytsev - Bug 869167 - Firefox hangs on Mac when ASan-built plugin is used in non-ASan build. r=bsmedberg
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> Sure
# [21:28] <@ehsan> and we don't expect to be able to get more testing there
# [21:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8c9ecb6229e7 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 906106 - Make test_file_protocol.js use do_get_tempdir. r=ted
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> But it wasn't ready then
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> And it isn't ready now
# [21:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b849c37e17b1 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 905835 - Fix whitespace in mach parxpc warning. r=gps
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> So what's the difference?
# [21:28] <@ehsan> it is!
# [21:28] <@ehsan> you're asserting one of your position as though it's a fact!
# [21:28] <Ms2ger> You're backporting seemingly huge amounts of code!
# [21:29] <Ms2ger> So it's not ready!
# [21:29] <@ehsan> the code being backported is isolated
# [21:29] <@ehsan> and can be disabled using a pref
# [21:29] <@ehsan> so if something goes wrong on the beta cycle we can disable it there
# [21:29] <@ehsan> but keeping this off beta doesn't make any sense any more, because we don't expect to get more testing on aurora
# [21:30] <@ehsan> so aurora is not planning any value for us
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> You're reducing the testing of those new patches significantly
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# [21:31] <Ms2ger> By that reasoning, I should backport most of my patches
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# [21:33] <@ehsan> well, the important point here is the "we don't expect to get much testing on aurora any more"
# [21:34] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: because we haven't received much testing there so far beyond our own testing
# [21:34] <mbrubeck> I think the cost in terms of lost testing is clear. The more nebulous part is the benefit of shipping something six weeks sooner. That benefit varies a lot depending on what "something" is and on external factors like competition
# [21:35] <mbrubeck> Shipping fat arrow functions six weeks earlier would probably have little impact because it's just an extra six weeks that they are in Firefox only and no one uses them on the web anyways.
# [21:35] <mbrubeck> Shipping web audio six weeks earlier could mean six weeks less that some popular web sites/apps/games are WebKit-only
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# [21:36] <@ehsan> one reason why I want to try for 25 is that we want this for Firefox OS 1.2
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# [21:36] <@ehsan> and I don't want a last minute disaster to prevent this from going into 26
# [21:36] * NeilAway wonders by how much mrbkap has speeded up everyone's builds
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# [21:37] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: but if you feel like this decision is not correct, please feel free to dispute it and I will be happy to defend it in a public forum :)
# [21:37] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: which will be based off 26, no?
# [21:38] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I mean, this was discussed on release-drivers, and it's probably my fault that dev-platform was not CCed :/
# [21:38] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: ah, ok
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# [21:38] <RyanVM|Sheriff> (sorry, autoscroll fail)
# [21:38] <@ehsan> RyanVM|Sheriff: correct, but I want to have time to address possible last minute issues if it means slipping for one release
# [21:38] * mbrubeck envisions ehsan defending Web Audio in a mixed-martial-arts free-for-all at the Mozilla Summit
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# [21:38] <@ehsan> heh, np
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# [21:38] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: haha, possibly with a sound track written on top of web audio ;)
# [21:38] <ted> :-/
# [21:39] <froydnj> mbrubeck: glad events are been televisted between the sites!
# [21:39] <ted> my firefox just crashed with the windows erorr dialog
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# [21:39] <bholley> taras: ping
# [21:39] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ted: sounds like a crash reporter bug
# [21:39] <RyanVM|Sheriff> better beat whoever owns that with a stick
# [21:39] <bholley> or vlad
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# [21:41] <@ehsan> froydnj: I'll be so mad if you end up making me an xpcom peer... just saying ;)
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# [21:42] <bholley> ehsan: if I can save us a full GC at shutdown, is that significant?
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# [21:42] <@ehsan> bholley: yes
# [21:42] <@ehsan> I think
# [21:42] <@ehsan> I mean
# [21:42] <@ehsan> I don't know
# [21:42] <@ehsan> you should measure ;)
# [21:43] <@ehsan> but I like that idea
# [21:43] <bholley> ehsan: well, I think I've already figured out how to do it, assuming try doesn't go orange. I'm just curious how much to gloat ;-)
# [21:44] <vlad> bholley: ?
# [21:44] <bholley> vlad: see my question to ehsan
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# [21:44] <bholley> vlad: I'm not really in the loop on shutdown performance
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# [21:44] <vlad> my answer is the same as ehsan's
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# [21:45] <@ehsan> vlad: with the same level of assertiveness? ;)
# [21:45] <bholley> vlad: k
# [21:45] <vlad> ehsan: basically the exact words you used :)
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# [21:45] <@ehsan> lol
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# [21:46] <Ms2ger> ehsan isn't an xpcom peer yet?
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# [21:46] <bholley> er hm, maybe it'll balance out to be the same
# [21:46] * bholley digs in
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# [21:47] <Ms2ger> !summon bsmedberg
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# [21:49] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: shhhhh
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# [21:50] <@ehsan> it's not like I adhere to the module ownership rules that much ;)
# [21:50] <Ms2ger> True
# [21:50] <Ms2ger> But you're going to end up on the suggested reviewers list for that :)
# [21:50] <froydnj> ehsan: muhahaha
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# [21:53] <froydnj> Ms2ger: I don't think "let webaudio ride the trains or I'll make you an xpcom peer" is a good blackmail strategy
# [21:54] <Ms2ger> froydnj, I'm going to make him a peer anyway :)
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# [21:58] <Ms2ger> ehsan, email sent :)
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# [21:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5709bc9f2953 - Robert Strong - Bug 829229 - Please set the in-product update backoff to 48 hour. r=bbondy, a=akeybl
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# [22:06] <mbrubeck> Bad news for reviewers named Hathaway, COMPTON, or Bunavailableson. ;)
# [22:06] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: I can't tell if you're serious or not... :s
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# [22:06] <mbrubeck> the p is silent?
# [22:07] <Msptoger> Yeah
# [22:07] <@ehsan> mbrubeck: I was considering changing my name anyways!
# [22:07] <@ehsan> Msptoger++
# [22:07] <gavin> mbrubeck: what are you quoting?
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# [22:08] <mbrubeck> gavin: http://mrcote.info/blog/2013/08/15/mid-august-bmo-news/
# [22:08] <gavin> ah
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# [22:26] <jaws> weird
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# [22:28] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/e813a6df4950 - Tim Taubert - Bug 886057 - Make sure frame tree is up-to-date before nsIDOMWindowUtils dispatches events via PresShell. r=smaug, a=bajaj
# [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7cc8d58ef8c9 - Tim Taubert - Bug 880101 - Part 2 - Wait until the initial tab's content document has been created before adding the progress listener. r=gavin, a=bajaj
# [22:29] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/048a44870feb - John Daggett - Bug 904263 - Don't set disabled subproperties within font shorthand parsing. r=dbaron, a=bajaj
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# [22:34] <@smaug> gavin: do we have tests for frameloader swapping?
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# [22:35] <tanvi> smaug: see comment 13 and 15 here - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902156#c13. is an if(!uri) check sufficient, or do you prefer an NS_ENSURE_ARG(uri) ?
# [22:35] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: I assume you'll re-add the checkin-neededs once you get whatever approvals you need. I'm holding off on webaudio uplifts until then
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# [22:35] <@ehawaysan> sure
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# [22:38] <gavin> smaug: in general, or via UI stuff?
# [22:38] <gavin> smaug: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=swapBrowser&find=browser_&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central are some examples
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# [22:39] <@smaug> tanvi: if (!uri) ... sound ok
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# [22:39] <@smaug> tanvi: in general if someone else has given review comments, I don't give the same ones
# [22:39] <gavin> smaug: also apparently http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=swapDocShells&find=chrome&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central
# [22:39] <tanvi> smaug: thanks. also, i updated the tests in bug 902350. sorry about that!
# [22:40] <tanvi> smaug: good to know :)
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# [22:40] <@smaug> tanvi: trying to review the mochitest still today
# [22:41] <gavin> and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/test/chrome/test_bug814638.xul#43
# [22:41] <tanvi> smaug: thanks!
# [22:41] <@smaug> gavin: thanks
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# [22:41] <@smaug> odd that my mxr query didn't give useful results
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# [22:42] <@smaug> but I guess I need to write a bit different kind of test after all
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# [22:53] <jesup|laptop> ted: you'll love this one. I was seeing (sometimes) a bump in CPU use for 1 minute every 4:15-5:00 minutes, from say 25% to 60% in mozilla when doing a pc_test.html self-call. Also cause audio slips, etc. finally figured out the cause; my laptop (W520) was cutting the CPU freq from 2.4GHz to 800MHz. And it's set to Maximum Performance, and on wall power. Thanks, Microsoft!
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# [22:55] <jesup|laptop> Seems heat related, though CPU use was low and it gets hotter compiling - it may have decided that overall use was low enough it could reduce frequency, or perhaps it has access to some internal heat measurement I can't see.
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# [22:56] <seth> jlebar: ping
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# [23:02] <jgilbert> jesup|laptop, mine was doing that permanently
# [23:02] <jgilbert> jesup|laptop, but its minimum is actually 1000MHz on battery power, even though it's 800MHz on wall power
# [23:03] <jgilbert> we switched out the laptop bodies, so I don't have that issue anymore
# [23:03] <gkw> gps: i heard (off the record) that mq *might be* deprecated by Mercurial soon, I don't know how true that is, nor the details
# [23:04] <jlebar> seth: hi
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# [23:05] <gps> gkw: good. changeset evolution is a much better model than mq
# [23:06] <gps> assuming changeset evolution is what they plan to replace it with
# [23:06] <gkw> ah, ok
# [23:06] <seth> jlebar: do you feel comfortable with doing reviews in imagelib?
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# [23:06] <jlebar> seth: Only if they're pretty easy...
# [23:06] <seth> jlebar: we have a bit of a reviewer shortage there at the moment and i'm trying to drum up some more reviewers
# [23:06] <gozala> mfinkle: margaret does window in fennec implements nsIDOMWindow ?
# [23:07] <jlebar> seth: I'm not sure I'm your man...
# [23:07] <jlebar> seth: But I'm happy to take a look.
# [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f08e4a699011 - Dan Gohman - Bug 894813 - IonMonkey: Implement dynamic range analysis checking. r=nbp
# [23:07] <mfinkle> gozala, it's a normal xul window
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# [23:07] <mfinkle> it should be like desktop
# [23:07] <seth> jlebar: i appreciate it. can you suggest anyone other than Jeff, Kyle, Daniel, or Timothy?
# [23:07] <jlebar> seth: joe? :)
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# [23:09] <gozala> mfinkle: oh I though we don't have xul there
# [23:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/70848736309b - Guillaume Abadie - bug 905853 - gfx/gl/GLConsts.h nits fix - r=jgilbert
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# [23:10] <jlebar> Misspells "pubilc". Debugs for 30 minutes.
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# [23:10] <jlebar> erm, how about
# [23:10] <jlebar> Misspells "pubilc". Recompiles clang.
# [23:10] <gozala> mfinkle: is this reliable isFennecWindow = window => window instanceof Ci.nsIDOMWindow && window.BrowserApp ?
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# [23:16] <NeilAway> gavin: presumably you can see the cloned bug for relevant discussion
# [23:16] <@dbaron> Does somebody understand the log in:
# [23:16] <@dbaron> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26651346&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
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# [23:17] <@dbaron> there's been a flood of stars on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=859807 with logs like that
# [23:17] <gavin> NeilAway: context?
# [23:17] <@dbaron> but I think it's something new within the past few hours
# [23:17] <@dbaron> and not what that bug was previously about
# [23:17] <@dbaron> RyanVM|Sheriff, ^
# [23:17] <NeilAway> gavin: the bug you commented on 20 minutes ago
# [23:17] <gavin> I don't remember commenting on a bug 20 minutes ago
# [23:17] <RyanVM|Sheriff> dbaron: that's been my thought too, but haven't had the time to retrigger backwards to finding a cause
# [23:17] <gavin> I comment in lots of bugs
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# [23:18] <gavin> NeilAway: the issue in the cloned bug was that content and chrome suggestions were being mixed together
# [23:19] <NeilAway> gavin: right
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# [23:19] <NeilAway> gavin: so, if I install FireFtp, then create a web page with an appropriately named input, the entry into FireFtp gets suggested to the web page
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# [23:19] <gavin> NeilAway: it's only a potential "security" (more privacy) issue because there are some other bugs that let you extract autocomplete values in content
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# [23:20] <gavin> I don't think either bug should be hidden
# [23:20] <gavin> not sure why bug 461820 still is
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# [23:20] <mfinkle> gozala, maybe - but i don't know about trusting BrowserApp
# [23:21] <NeilAway> gavin: feel free to figure out that between you and dveditz and whomever
# [23:21] <@dveditz> which?
# [23:21] <mfinkle> gozala, what about: isFennec() { return Services.appinfo.ID == "{aa3c5121-dab2-40e2-81ca-7ea25febc110}"; }
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# [23:22] <gavin> dveditz: bug 461820 and bug 906163
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# [23:22] <gavin> dveditz: I'm suggesting they shouldn't be hidden (certainly not the former)
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# [23:24] <@dveditz> I don't know why that didn't get unhidden... probably means there was no advisory either
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# [23:24] <@dveditz> (maybe it didn't need one)
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# [23:25] <@dveditz> it's also been independently reported multiple times, so it was discoverable
# [23:25] <@dveditz> I just unhid 461820
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# [23:30] <NeilAway> RyanVM|Sheriff: I filed bug 906200 for your consideration
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# [23:33] <@dveditz> NeilAway, gavin: I unhid 906163, too
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# [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77bcbb164b45 - Dan Gohman - Bug 894813 - IonMonkey: Eliminate ambiguity in pow calls in a CLOSED TREE
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