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  17. # [00:12] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/efa786fa5f04 - Dan Gohman - Bug 894813 - IonMonkey: Fix the include path for RangeAnalysis.h on a CLOSED TREE
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  29. # [00:23] <tbsaunde> philor: how much grief is bug 873667 causing recently?
  30. # [00:23] <marco> Mossop: ping
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  36. # [00:25] <philor> tbsaunde: far as I know, we're putting all of them in the bug, so around one a day
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  63. # [00:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/ee4d263ee510 - Kartikaya Gupta - Bug 898877 - Prevent pages from getting stuck without the dynamic toolbar. r=Cwiiis a=bajaj
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  73. # [00:47] <chmanchester> decoder: ping
  74. # [00:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a279ce237586 - Chris Peterson - Bug 897924 - Intermittent test_contacts_basics.html | No contacts after clear - got 124 (or 84), expected 0. r=cpeterson
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  83. # [00:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d6d6c2ac808e - Brian Hackett - Bug 906001 - Don't start collection of the atoms zone when off thread parsing is in progress, r=billm.
  84. # [00:56] <NeilAway> gavin: so, what would you suggest as best practice?
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  88. # [01:01] <glandium> jlebar: the only way to force ld.bfd is to --enable-release at the moment
  89. # [01:02] <mjrosenb|ARM> is dolske on pto?
  90. # [01:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dc5ef6e3d1e6 - Luke Wagner - Bug 902506 - OdinMonkey: cut all dependency on (Ion|JS)(Compartment|Runtime) via IonContext (r=sstangl)
  91. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b827d6e26380 - Luke Wagner - Bug 902506 - OdinMonkey: fix AutoFlushCache insanity (r=mjrosenb)
  92. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a63f47fcbe98 - Luke Wagner - Bug 902506 - OdinMonkey: remove main-thread restriction from js::CompileAsmJS (r=bhackett)
  93. # [01:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79edb4566926 - Luke Wagner - Bug 902506 - OdinMonkey: fix/enhance asm.js memory reporting (r=njn)
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  100. # [01:07] <reuben> mjrosenb|ARM: yes
  101. # [01:07] <reuben> until august 19 if IIRC
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  105. # [01:10] <mjrosenb|ARM> reuben: thanks, good to know.
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  107. # [01:13] * KWierso hopes philor can handle things now, because he's on his own for the evening :)
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  119. # [01:17] <tbsaunde> philor: sorry was grabbing dinner, is 1 a day a pain that's worth a couple days of work to try and fix?
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  124. # [01:21] <jlebar> glandium: that's a bummer.
  125. # [01:21] <jlebar> glandium: I mean, I hope you intend to fix that.
  126. # [01:21] <jlebar> glandium: In the past, I've had to switch to bfd because gold broke valgrind
  127. # [01:21] <philor> sunfish: assertion failures
  128. # [01:22] <jlebar> glandium: And I know someone whose entire machine freezes while using gold, but who doesn't have that problem with bfd.
  129. # [01:22] <philor> tbsaunde: it's not worth it to me, but then, I'm the most ground-down and indifferent sheriff there is
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  131. # [01:22] <glandium> jlebar: file a bug
  132. # [01:23] <sunfish> philor: looking
  133. # [01:23] <jlebar> glandium: It's already in the tree?
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  135. # [01:23] <glandium> jlebar: yes
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  138. # [01:23] <jlebar> glandium: What should I block against?
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  142. # [01:24] <glandium> jlebar: 904979
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  146. # [01:26] <sunfish> how do I run the tests under content/canvas/test?
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  148. # [01:27] <jlebar> glandium: done. :)
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  150. # [01:30] <sunfish> philor: a quick fix is possible (remove the asserts, which weren't there before), or I can revert the patch. do you have a preference?
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  153. # [01:33] <philor> sunfish: if thy assert offends thee, pluck it out!
  154. # [01:33] <philor> alas, even if canvas offends thee, thou canst pluck it out
  155. # [01:34] <tbsaunde> philor: ok, feel free to poke if that changes of course
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  158. # [01:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1cf565c9884b - Mark Hammond - Bug 904323 - use NS_DebugBreak() on Windows instead of sleeping to debug child processes. r=bent
  159. # [01:37] <philor> oh, I guess that means I didn't actually close the tree
  160. # [01:37] <philor> until now
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  162. # [01:39] <@dbaron> Hmmm. Is it bad that I have a review request that I'm planning to reassign to bz on Monday...?
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  166. # [01:42] <philor> nah, he'll have been awake for a few hours by the time you do it, nothing cruel about that
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  171. # [01:52] * gps ponders which tree is the fastest path to central at this point
  172. # [01:52] <gavin> central
  173. # [01:52] <gps> if I weren't about to go home, i'd do that
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  179. # [01:54] <Callek> in that case inbound
  180. # [01:54] <Callek> since you don't have to watch it
  181. # [01:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8df3548041d5 - Dan Gohman - Bug 894813 - IonMonkey: Temporarily disable these asserts, which are failing on content/canvas/test/test_canvas.html, on a CLOSED TREE
  182. # [01:55] <sunfish> philor: plucked!
  183. # [01:55] <philor> sunfish: sweet, thanks
  184. # [01:56] <philor> gps: perhaps b2g-inbound, though I wouldn't make that bet on a Friday; inbound's open
  185. # [01:56] <philor> well, it will be, treestatus willing
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  187. # [01:57] <sunfish> the majority of the range checking patch is disabled by default (under a shell flag), so I'm really not expecting any more trouble :-/
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  194. # [02:01] <@dbaron> btw, does firebot announce b2g-inbound pushes?
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  199. # [02:04] <stully> reuben: ping
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  206. # [02:08] <mihneadb> glandium: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=887064 :)
  207. # [02:09] <glandium> mihneadb: oh, you fixed it, awesome
  208. # [02:09] <mihneadb> glandium: that was basically the main part of the work on it
  209. # [02:09] <mihneadb> I'll post an article about the process
  210. # [02:10] <mihneadb> there are still issues in automation
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  212. # [02:10] <mihneadb> trying to see how to go about it
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  234. # [02:23] <Callek> vlad: ping, whats your LDAP account name?
  235. # [02:23] <Callek> (full account)
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  242. # [02:27] <RyanVM|afk> dbaron: firebot: bug 906196
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  244. # [02:28] <RyanVM|afk> firebot: bug 906196
  245. # [02:28] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906196 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Checkins] Firebot should announce fx-team and b2g-inbound checkins in #developers
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  252. # [02:34] <vlad> Callek: vladimir@mozilla.com
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  262. # [02:40] <jesup> lsblakk: akeybl: ping
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  265. # [02:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12a6a12d899d - Mark Hammond - Bug 890840 - calling KillHard() multiple times may crash parent process. r=jlebar
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  267. # [02:42] <mina> question: I'm having trouble putting a nsSimpleContentList in a hash table
  268. # [02:42] <mina> any declaration like:
  269. # [02:42] <mina> ns(RefPtr|Class)Hashtable <nsStringHashKey, nsSimpleContentList>
  270. # [02:42] <mina> gives me a lot of compile errors in the template instantiation:
  271. # [02:43] <mina> https://bug863966.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=791154
  272. # [02:43] <mina> anyone know how I make a hash table that takes a string and returns a nsSimpleContentList?
  273. # [02:43] <jesup> I assume that the UA string for 23.0.1 should say 23.0.1 and not 23.0..... :-(
  274. # [02:44] <@dbaron> RyanVM|afk, thanks
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  286. # [02:49] <mhenretty> mrbkap: i have a question about naming conventions that i was hoping you could answer
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  289. # [02:49] <mhenretty> mrbkap: I'm making an interface for a notification storage layer, and the name I'm using is nsINotificationStorage
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  292. # [02:50] <mhenretty> my question is, what is the convention for when i at DOM, as in nsIDOMNotificationStorage?
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  294. # [02:51] <mhenretty> any XPIDL experts wanna answer above question? ^^
  295. # [02:51] <mina> mhenretty: mrbkap is probably the expert but I think the I stands for Interface, so classes that are meant to be used as interfaces and are not concrete take the I
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  297. # [02:52] <mhenretty> mina: gotcha. I'm wondering if/when to add `DOM` to the name
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  301. # [02:52] <reuben> firebot: seen stully
  302. # [02:52] <firebot> stully was last seen 14 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying 'wesj1: I'm trying to get it up and running now. removing unecessary parts can come later' in #mobile.
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  304. # [02:53] <fabrice> mhenretty: DOM is for things that are exposed to web pages
  305. # [02:53] <mina> I don't recall seeing DOM outside of webidls at all. I _think_ all XPIDLs don't take DOM, just ns or nsI
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  307. # [02:53] <mhenretty> fabrice, mina: thank you
  308. # [02:53] <fabrice> mina: that will be the case once we'll have converted all the dom interfaces to webidl
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  313. # [02:55] <mhenretty> fabrice: I'm assuming you mean exposed directly to DOM. so for instance my interface deal with DOM notifications, but it can only be called from chrome
  314. # [02:55] <mhenretty> which means no dom in the name
  315. # [02:55] <fabrice> yes, no DOM for that
  316. # [02:55] <mhenretty> fabrice: cool. thanks
  317. # [02:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e53691a25509 - Daniel Holbert - (no bug, whitespace only) Remove unnecessary newline in nsFlexContainerFrame.cpp. DONTBUILD
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  327. # [03:00] <capella> kwierso: ping still around?
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  333. # [03:02] <jesup> Hmm, looks like we removed point values from the UA string for fingerprinting and/or to hide security release level, so 23.0 is correct
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  335. # [03:03] <RyanVM|afk> capella: anything I might be able to help with?
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  339. # [03:05] <capella> maybe : i landed https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/2404f5888de3 on fx-team after success on try and burned someone elses build
  340. # [03:05] <capella> The patch involved .idl changes ... is tat a problem a) can't do that in fx-team / must use inbound? or b) forgot uuid update?
  341. # [03:05] <RyanVM> fx-team and inbound are configured the same
  342. # [03:05] <RyanVM> sounds like a missing UUID update to me
  343. # [03:05] <RyanVM> Try is always clobbered, so you wouldn't catch it there
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  345. # [03:05] <RyanVM> but a dep build wouldn't know to rebuild without
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  347. # [03:06] <capella> ah ... thanks - that must be it :)
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  353. # [03:09] <decoder> chmanchester|afk: late pong
  354. # [03:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/541db4a9ecbe - Dão Gottwald - Bug 684016 - Add call stack to gBrowser.addProgressListener's wrong-argument-count error message. r=gavin
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  369. # [03:16] <jesup> anyone know a way an app developer can determine if a user has 23.0.1 vs 23.0? We hide it in the UA string now
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  374. # [03:22] <Callek> jesup: is there a special reason the distinction matters?
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  376. # [03:22] * Callek really can't think of a good reason top of my head
  377. # [03:23] <jesup> Callek: Webrtc audio in 23.0 is messed up; it's fixed in 23.0.1
  378. # [03:23] <Callek> jesup: if it is a matter of legit reason, one way (which is a very very very specific need for checking) is buildid; navigator.buildID
  379. # [03:23] <jesup> developer turned off Firefox access in 23.0, wants to re-enable it for 23.0.1
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  384. # [03:26] <jesup> thanks
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  389. # [03:28] <jesup> Callek: that works
  390. # [03:29] <Callek> jesup: yea I wouldn't recommend it in most cases, because if there is a 23.0.2 you just invalidated the test ;-)
  391. # [03:29] <Callek> etc
  392. # [03:29] <jesup> Though it also largely blows the security part of the argument for hiding the point value
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  394. # [03:29] <jesup> I told him that date or later, if version is 23.0
  395. # [03:29] <Callek> jesup: we never claimed to make it impossible to find the point value, fwiw
  396. # [03:30] <jesup> I couldn't find the final bug/discussion where the decision was made, just some earlier ones
  397. # [03:30] <Callek> there are PLENTY of ways to find out what specific version you are on, e.g. availability of specific other web API's etc
  398. # [03:30] <jesup> exactly
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  401. # [03:31] <jesup> iterate over the known bug fixes in that main rev until you fingerprint the build
  402. # [03:31] <guzzlefry> Is this the appropriate place for asking questions regarding add-on development?
  403. # [03:31] <Callek> the primary reason (as I took away from the thread) was poor UA sniffing, matching for exact versions, and not realizing that web-compat-wise 23.0 is === 23.0.1, (except in rare cases where we need to fix a crashing bug for a significant portion of our userbase, such as this webRTC one you mention)
  404. # [03:31] <jesup> callek: that makes more sense
  405. # [03:31] <Callek> guzzlefry: this is one of the places where Q's can be appropriate, there is also #introduction, etc.
  406. # [03:31] <guzzlefry> oh okay
  407. # [03:32] * Callek doesn't know all of them though
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  409. # [03:32] <guzzlefry> Well, I'm looking for a way around the :visited CSS selector restrictions. Specifically I want to hide visited links.
  410. # [03:33] <guzzlefry> Would something like Greasemonkey scripts allow me to read Firefox's history and then manipulate the current page?
  411. # [03:34] <Callek> guzzlefry: fwiw, that sounds tricky (since the :visited stuff was made this way due to security needs) so while I know what you want is "probably" possible via an addon, I don't know a good suggestion for you (I'm saying this just so you know I am not ignoring you after saying this channel is fine)
  412. # [03:34] <Callek> here's hoping others here have a good suggestion
  413. # [03:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f0dbbb282b5f - Vincent Chang - Bug 904631 - "System JS : ERROR jar:file:///system/b2g/omni.ja!/components/WifiWorker.js:2889. r=mrbkap
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  415. # [03:35] <guzzlefry> Ah yeah, it seems you can only change the color of a visisted link, and even then the browser will lie about the color.
  416. # [03:36] <Callek> s/security needs/privacy needs/ (sorry misspoke above)
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  427. # [03:44] <spohl> are the symbols for try server builds not being posted to the build directory?
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  432. # [03:51] <mrbkap> guzzlefry: It should be impossible to do what you want to do, sadly.
  433. # [03:51] <mrbkap> guzzlefry: From content, anyway.
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  436. # [03:52] <Callek> mrbkap: well he did say "addon
  437. # [03:52] <Callek> mrbkap: which at least has the possibility... (despite me thinking its probably not a good idea in general)
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  439. # [03:53] <jesup> spohl: Try builds: I don't think so (at least not for opt builds). There's some magic to get them to build and copy the symbols to the build dir, but I forget what it is
  440. # [03:53] <jesup> spohl: it was quite painful...
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  443. # [03:55] <mrbkap> Callek: Oh, I saw GreaseMonkey and jumped.
  444. # [03:56] * philor thinks quietly landing on a clearly broken tree that clearly should have been closed is not the fast track to m-c
  445. # [03:56] <philor> someone might possibly get bitter about that, and choose not to merge that tree all weekend
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  447. # [03:56] * Callek wonders which tree that is :-)
  448. # [03:57] <philor> fx-team
  449. # [03:57] <philor> also? screw you and your service unavailable, treestatus
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  451. # [03:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce33bf6e6258 - Vincent Chang - Bug 904631 - "System JS : ERROR jar:file:///system/b2g/omni.ja!/components/WifiWorker.js:2889. r=mrbkap
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  459. # [04:05] <spohl> jesup: that makes me sad...
  460. # [04:05] <spohl> jesup: I've been unsuccessful to build a 32-bit linux build. I tried both on a 32-bit system and crosscompiling on a 64-bit host
  461. # [04:05] <jesup> spohl: ping ted (or send him email; he's likely not on given it's the weekend)
  462. # [04:06] <spohl> jesup: thanks, I'll do that!
  463. # [04:06] <jesup> we build 32-bit linux builds all the time
  464. # [04:06] <jesup> typically on Amazon servers IIRC
  465. # [04:06] <spohl> jesup: right, try doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
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  467. # [04:07] <spohl> if only I could get a VM of one of our 32-bit linux build slaves
  468. # [04:07] <jesup> how much memory does it have? OS version?
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  470. # [04:07] <jesup> the 32-bit machine
  471. # [04:07] <spohl> Fedora 19, 4GB RAM
  472. # [04:07] <jesup> spohl: You can also file a bug for access to a build slave
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  474. # [04:08] <jesup> 4GB is pushing it nowadays
  475. # [04:08] <spohl> jesup: hmm, now that's interesting
  476. # [04:08] <jesup> 8GB is recommended nowadays IIRC
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  478. # [04:08] <spohl> jesup: well, that's max for 32-bit, right?
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  480. # [04:09] <jesup> Only per-process
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  483. # [04:09] <spohl> I'm guessing ld is one process...
  484. # [04:09] <spohl> it chokes on libxul.so
  485. # [04:10] <jesup> Can't remember if the default Fedora 32-bit kernel has >4GB compiled in
  486. # [04:10] <spohl> well, this definitely helps
  487. # [04:10] <jesup> libxul would be where it chokes.
  488. # [04:10] <spohl> yeah, no surprise really :-)
  489. # [04:10] <spohl> well, you gave me a few more avenues to explore
  490. # [04:10] <spohl> thank jesup!
  491. # [04:10] <jesup> ted's the person to ask; you could also try bsmedberg, khuey, a few others
  492. # [04:11] <spohl> thanks*
  493. # [04:11] <jesup> np
  494. # [04:11] <spohl> will do!
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  498. # [04:12] <tbsaunde> spohl|away: cross compiling on fedora really shouldn't be that hard given the build slaves are centos 6 x86_64
  499. # [04:12] <spohl|away> tbsaunde: I was able to cross compile, but I was unable to run on a 32-bit host...
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  501. # [04:13] <spohl|away> running on the 64-bit host didn't work because the failing tests require a webgl context, presumably a 32-bit one
  502. # [04:13] <spohl|away> and moving the obj-dir to a 32-bit host failed...
  503. # [04:14] <spohl|away> I'm sure it's possible somehow, but once I was able to download and run the 32-bit builds from try, I was hoping I wouldn't have to figure out the details of the failures I was seeing
  504. # [04:15] <tbsaunde> spohl|away: ah, there's a mozconfig thing you can set to get useful symbols uploaded for try builds
  505. # [04:15] <RyanVM> philor: I like the "land patch, accidentally revert patch while clearing merge conflict, re-land patch" on inbound :)
  506. # [04:16] <spohl|away> tbsaunde: compared to what I've been through, this seems like a super easy way to get a hold of some symbols :-)
  507. # [04:16] <philor> "damn that RyanVM conflicting with my merge, I'll just revert him"
  508. # [04:16] <spohl|away> anyway, I'll explore this a bit more tomorrow. thanks tbsaunde!
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  520. # [04:28] <capella> ryanvm: fyi I re-pushed the fx-team patch with the updated uuid ...
  521. # [04:28] <KWierso|Home> capella: pong :P
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  523. # [04:28] <capella> Ah ! Thanks for headup earlier kwierso
  524. # [04:28] <KWierso|Home> yep
  525. # [04:28] <philor> capella: yeah, and your build started one minute before RyanVM clobbered, and it failed just like it did before
  526. # [04:29] <capella> ????
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  528. # [04:29] <philor> if you're going to assume that our build system works without clobbering, you're not going to have a good time
  529. # [04:29] <capella> Well wth
  530. # [04:30] <philor> it may still fail clobbered, of course
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  532. # [04:31] <capella> Confused ... it works locally, it worked on try, it burned on fx-team without uuid change >and< with the change?
  533. # [04:32] <capella> so I have to push a clobber change for that you suggest?
  534. # [04:33] <reuben> jld: ping
  535. # [04:34] <philor> capella: nah, CLOBBER is a huge sledgehammer to use when we don't even know if that's it, since the clobber was already set, that retrigger is a clobber, and we'll see if it burns or greens
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  537. # [04:35] <capella> ok - good - i dont wanna be the guy who makes everyone clobber local builds for one tiny change - Ill sit tight
  538. # [04:35] <philor> CLOBBER will clobber everything, whether or not it needs it, and can't be taken back, and it won't even trigger builds on the push
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  544. # [04:40] <reuben> argh
  545. # [04:41] <reuben> AudioNodeEngineNEON.cpp doesn't build with jld's prebuilt toolchain
  546. # [04:41] <reuben> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48561
  547. # [04:41] <reuben> MFBT it is
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  550. # [04:50] <glandium> KaiRo: MOZILLA_OFFICIAL is not the only way to enable the crash reporter
  551. # [04:51] <KaiRo> glandium: it is required to have crash reporter enabled
  552. # [04:51] <glandium> KaiRo: no
  553. # [04:51] <KaiRo> glandium: believe me, it is
  554. # [04:51] <glandium> especially for b2g that has a wrapper script
  555. # [04:52] <KaiRo> that does not matter
  556. # [04:52] <glandium> KaiRo: there's an env variable to enable it
  557. # [04:52] <KaiRo> oh, yes, the shitty way exists as well
  558. # [04:52] <KaiRo> not sure if it even works if MOZILLA_OFFICIAL isn't set, though
  559. # [04:52] <glandium> anyways, if b2g insists on MOZILLA_OFFICIAL, they can just add --enable-release to the same mozconfig. It's in gonk-misc/default-something
  560. # [04:53] <KaiRo> this patch broke B2G builds for our partners, therefore it should be backed out. point.
  561. # [04:53] <glandium> that will apply to everyone building b2g
  562. # [04:53] <KaiRo> then we can talk about how to get things working properly
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  565. # [04:54] <KaiRo> to be clear, it broke builds for our partners, and in addition for Geeksphone and for people building themselves
  566. # [04:54] <glandium> KaiRo: backing out, changing gonk-misc, relanding ; changing gonk-misc, at this point, which one is less work?
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  569. # [04:54] <KaiRo> the only B2G builds not broken are the QA/dogfooding builds done by releng
  570. # [04:55] <KaiRo> glandium: changing gonk-mish is the wrong place
  571. # [04:55] <glandium> which in itself is the most annoying thing: releng b2g builds have nothing to do with b2g builds
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  574. # [04:56] <glandium> seriously, the b2g build system is pissing me off
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  576. # [04:58] <KaiRo> glandium: if you change http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/webapprt/application.ini.in#25 to do base on something else than MOZILLA_OFFICIAL then we can talk, but as long as that is there, setting MOZILLA_OFFICIAL is the way to turn on crash reporting by default and and because our partners are not well-versed with doing our strange mozconfig stuff, we needed to see that it's on by default in B2G which means setting this varianle b
  577. # [04:58] <KaiRo> y default
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  579. # [05:00] <KaiRo> and yes, B2G sucks, in multiple ways, but given all the issues we have with our partners getting stuff right, I can't tolerate us needing to tell them to do even more hard-to-understand stuff, sorry
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  581. # [05:01] <KaiRo> let me rephrase, B2G is awesome, but there's multiple things surrounding the actual product that suck
  582. # [05:01] <glandium> i have an idea
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  586. # [05:04] <glandium> KaiRo: can you file a followup bug while i'm writing the patch?
  587. # [05:04] <KaiRo> glandium: and sorry for being harsh in that regard, but I already lost too many nerves on trying to get our partners to do the right thing in terms of crash reporting
  588. # [05:04] <KaiRo> well, I should get out of the office and definitely get *something* to eat, but I can file a very very short bug
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  591. # [05:11] <KaiRo> glandium: oh, wait, that thing to turn of MOZILLA_OFFICIAL by default didn't land so it's not broken by default, but still all our partner builds (if they build trunk) and the Geeksphone builds are broken as we told them all to set MOZILLA_OFFICIAL
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  593. # [05:13] <glandium> KaiRo: my patch does --enable-release by default when MOZILLA_OFFICIAL is set
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  595. # [05:13] <glandium> KaiRo: did you file a bug?
  596. # [05:13] <KaiRo> glandium: actually, I also wonder if we should just remove that #define in application.ini.in and always turn on crash reporter by default if it's built
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  598. # [05:14] <glandium> KaiRo: there was a reason for that, that i don't remember
  599. # [05:14] <glandium> i think i filed a bug about at least that not being MOZILLA_OFFICIAL
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  601. # [05:14] <glandium> 717538
  602. # [05:15] <glandium> KaiRo: ^
  603. # [05:16] <glandium> KaiRo: did you file a bug or should i just file one?
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  605. # [05:16] <KaiRo> glandium: the original reason was that we thought those crash reports would make our job for analyzing crash data harder
  606. # [05:16] <glandium> KaiRo: that was probably true at the time
  607. # [05:16] <KaiRo> glandium: bug 906260
  608. # [05:16] <glandium> KaiRo: thanks
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  610. # [05:17] <KaiRo> glandium: yes, but nowadays getting those reports is not a problem - our servers can easily take it and we have stuff in place so they don't cause problems (well, unless people also set the release channel and do it in a way that interferes with our usual data)
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  614. # [05:20] <glandium> let's fix 717538 then
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  617. # [05:23] <KaiRo> glandium: that's probably a good idea, but actually, I may prefer doing both so that stuff doesn't break for the manufacturers (and --enable-release probably makes sense for everyone setting MOZILLA_OFFICIAL for the reasons it's actually there for)
  618. # [05:23] <glandium> KaiRo: i wasn't implying to only fix 717538
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  623. # [05:24] <KaiRo> glandium: sounds good to me, then!
  624. # [05:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c39d60483813 - Bobby Holley - Bug 905364 - Stop using the SafeJSContext in nsScriptSecurityManager::Init. r=mrbkap
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  632. # [05:30] <KaiRo> glandium: and thanks for looking into that!
  633. # [05:31] <jld> reuben: pastebin the error? Looking at the file I don't see why it'd break (and not break on the regular toolchain).
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  697. # [07:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bbd35977478e - Mike Hommey - Bug 906260 - Make MOZILLA_OFFICIAL turn --enable-release on automatically. r=khuey
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  755. # [08:37] <capella|nearby> philor - checking in
  756. # [08:37] <philor> capella|nearby: looks pretty green to me
  757. # [08:38] <capella|nearby> lost track of status - green with my changes or after backout ?
  758. # [08:38] <philor> green post-clobber
  759. # [08:40] <capella|nearby> ah! So I'm done / changes are working
  760. # [08:41] <philor> wfm
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  763. # [08:42] <capella|away> great - catch ya later :)
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  792. # [09:31] <@dbaron> Why does "Clone this bug" now mark a dependency between the clone and cloned bugs by default?
  793. # [09:31] <glandium> dbaron: been that way for as long as i remember
  794. # [09:31] <@dbaron> I probably haven't used clone for at least a year
  795. # [09:31] <glandium> but maybe i don't remember for that long
  796. # [09:31] <@dbaron> seems like a silly default to me
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  808. # [09:50] <squiggy> hi
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  836. # [10:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a2c5f867eb56 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 906040 - Bring back the higher recursion limit for chrome scripts in the interpreter. r=luke
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  839. # [10:40] <catalinn> Hi. I'm trying to dereference a nsCOMPtr variable in dtor, but I get SIGSEV and this ABORT: You can't dereference a NULL nsCOMPtr with operator->().: 'mRawPtr != 0', file ../../../dist/include/nsCOMPtr.h, line 819")
  840. # [10:40] <catalinn> can anyone help me ?
  841. # [10:42] <Ms2ger> Clearly it's null
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  847. # [10:49] <capella> look at all those nice empty landing trees
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  891. # [12:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/84348be7b4e3 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-centos6-hp-008 - a=hsts-update
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  895. # [12:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/468865378e3a - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ix-034 - a=blocklist-update
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  903. # [12:23] <RattyAway> Hi! Which channel is for issues with webpages in www.mozilla.org domain?
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  913. # [12:35] <@smaug> /home/smaug/mozilla/hg/inbound/js/src/vm/Stack-inl.h:233: error: undefined reference to 'js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES_TRUSTED'
  914. # [12:35] <@smaug> /home/smaug/mozilla/hg/inbound/js/src/vm/Stack-inl.h:233: error: undefined reference to 'js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES'
  915. # [12:35] <@smaug> who broke the tree
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  918. # [12:38] <darktrojan> it was not me
  919. # [12:38] <darktrojan> who broke the tree
  920. # [12:38] <darktrojan> I haven't pushed, you see
  921. # [12:38] <darktrojan> to try, or to m-c
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  925. # [12:42] <RattyAway> haiku?
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  927. # [12:42] <RattyAway> never mind I've filed Bug 906304
  928. # [12:42] <RattyAway> ttfn
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  930. # [12:43] <darktrojan> I hope no bugs are filed about my bad poetry
  931. # [12:43] * Ms2ger files
  932. # [12:44] <Ms2ger> Meanwhile
  933. # [12:44] <darktrojan> RESOLVED CANTFIX
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  935. # [12:44] <Ms2ger> Servo seems to be improving
  936. # [12:45] <Ms2ger> Commit: "Remove HTTP support"
  937. # [12:46] <darktrojan> heh
  938. # [12:46] <darktrojan> that's a great feature for a browser
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  940. # [12:51] <tuxie_> who needs HTTP when you have ajax
  941. # [12:52] <darktrojan> um
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  943. # [12:53] <Archaeopteryx> who needs HTTP when you have telnet
  944. # [12:54] <tuxie_> reminds me of http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1kjihr/write_your_whole_application_in_javascript/
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  969. # [13:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/251540232d8f - Brian Hackett - Bug 906171 - Avoid deadlock from calling triggerOperationCallback under CodeGenerator::link, r=jandem.
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  1002. # [14:33] <avih> anyone thinks s/he can handle a bit of a PR issue with users ranting that their bug isn't being looked into? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837489#c175 onwards...
  1003. # [14:33] <Ms2ger> Definitely not me
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  1006. # [14:34] <avih> well, if anyone feels s/he can, please step in.
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  1008. # [14:36] <jez9999> For some reason, display:-moz-box is giving one of my elements a 1px border at the bottom even though I explicitly set the CSS styling for a 0px bottom border. when set to display:block this element loses the bottom borer. can anyone think why display:-moz-box would cause this?
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  1018. # [14:50] * @smaug needs some iframe heavy website
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  1021. # [14:51] <Ms2ger> smaug, the range tests? ;)
  1022. # [14:52] <@smaug> uh, do they have iframes too
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  1024. # [14:52] <@smaug> though, I wouldn't be surprised
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  1029. # [14:58] <@smaug> hmm, google reader would have been a good example
  1030. # [14:58] <@smaug> "good"
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  1056. # [15:33] <fer> Do you know why I may be getting "Error: Permission denied to access object" when accessing ev.data on a TcpSocket.ondata? I can open the socket and write to it without anyproblem
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  1058. # [15:36] <reuben> jld: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2874098
  1059. # [15:36] <reuben> jld: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48561
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  1061. # [15:39] <fer> actually I can access ev.data.length, so it is strange
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  1064. # [15:47] <fer> looks like bug #865335 happening on current nightly
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  1119. # [17:03] <firebot> markh was last seen 14 hours, 10 minutes and a second ago, saying 'gavin, adw: I started a LOAD_ANONYMOUS thread on dev.tech.network incase you haven't seen it' in #fx-team.
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  1123. # [17:03] <RattyAway> hmm.
  1124. # [17:04] <philor> suspicious, isn't it?
  1125. # [17:04] <philor> "not enough space for thread data" -- space of what sort?
  1126. # [17:06] <reuben> TLS?
  1127. # [17:08] <philor> bottom of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26683838&tree=Mozilla-Central, looks vaguely familiar, and not in a good way
  1128. # [17:09] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562123#c4 - we just need to uninstall Tab Mix Lite from the build slaves, and we'll be fine :)
  1129. # [17:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7a16c36f50fc - Jeff Muizelaar - Bug 898525. Separate out Gfx helpers into GfxMessageUtils.h. r=bent
  1130. # [17:11] <reuben> hah
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  1132. # [17:13] <reuben> that's a windows runtime error, looks like a TlsAlloc call failed in python when running packager.py
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  1134. # [17:13] <reuben> so… retrigger and cross fingers?
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  1137. # [17:17] <reuben> the interesting thing is that msdn says that only happens on very old versions of the runtime, and https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=not+enough+space+for+thread+data&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central shows matches in the NSIS binaries
  1138. # [17:17] <reuben> I remember NSIS being created somewhere during the cretaceous period
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  1163. # [17:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/703b6a6e627b - ffxbld - No bug, Automated blocklist update from host bld-linux64-ix-027 - a=blocklist-update
  1164. # [17:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74fe1012de43 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-i to m-c
  1165. # [17:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/84348be7b4e3 - ffxbld - No bug, Automated HSTS preload list update from host bld-centos6-hp-008 - a=hsts-update
  1166. # [17:45] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2652c7c4e982 - Phil Ringnalda - Merge m-c to m-i
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  1188. # [18:15] <@smaug> hmm, what causes "Running global cleanup code from study base classes." message
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  1194. # [18:30] <crussell> what's the best way to get the webProgress for an arbitrary document?
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  1198. # [18:31] <crussell> qi to interfacerequestor then getInterface to nsIWebProgress, but what if the document is in a frame?
  1199. # [18:31] <crussell> is there a way to get to the docshell for an arbitrary document that may be loaded in a frame?
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  1202. # [18:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ed08676c3e70 - Luke Wagner - Bug 906252 - OdinMonkey: fix type checking of final return (r=bbouvier)
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  1204. # [18:36] <Fallen> smaug: bug 750752
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  1206. # [18:37] <@smaug> hmm
  1207. # [18:38] <@smaug> I can't find the dump()
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  1264. # [19:42] <jld> reuben: So, my toolchain should be the same source as the prebuilt one. (Modulo my patch, but the flag I added isn't enabled here, so that shouldn't make a difference.)
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  1267. # [19:43] <jld> reuben: However... Google, at least ICS-era, seems to have been pretty spectacularly sloppy about keeping track of what exactly they built things from.
  1268. # [19:43] <jld> So I wouldn't be *too* surprised if the list of git hashes I used was completely lies instead of partially.
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  1275. # [19:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b930ef90265e - Ed Morley - Bug 881404 - Disable dom/workers/test/test_closeOnGC.html on Android for intermittent timeouts. a=test-only
  1276. # [19:47] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/7bd99c764420 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 895294 - Make ImageDocument OverrideBuiltins. r=peterv, a=abillings
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  1281. # [19:52] <jez> Is there are way to change the default background color of an empty new tab in SeaMonkey?
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  1347. # [21:08] <mib_rdv233> hai
  1348. # [21:09] <mib_rdv233> pt-br?
  1349. # [21:09] <mib_rdv233> http://projetorozaazul.wordpress.com/2013/08/17/87/
  1350. # [21:10] <mib_rdv233> ?!
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  1425. # [22:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/04b71f2c4055 - Brian Hackett - Bug 897655 - Reenable accidentally disabled tests.
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  1435. # [22:31] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bb269dc27eab - Christian Holler - Bug 905636 - Disable a netwerk xpcshell test under ASan. r=jduell
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  1438. # [22:32] <Callek> do we have any "graphics experts" at mozilla who understand *OSX* graphics problems?
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  1441. # [22:33] <decoder> Callek: might want to ask bjacob
  1442. # [22:33] <Callek> (I'm talking re: firefox and build farm code)
  1443. # [22:33] <decoder> i dont know how specific he knows about osx
  1444. # [22:33] <Callek> decoder: I thought bjacob was primarily windows-based
  1445. # [22:33] <decoder> well, he knows stuff about linux too
  1446. # [22:33] <decoder> i guess asking cant hurt^^
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  1449. # [22:35] <bjacob> Callek: i am mostly linux based, for OSX you may rather want mattwoodrow|away or jrmuizel
  1450. # [22:35] <bjacob> Callek:or BenWa
  1451. # [22:35] <Callek> bjacob: thanks
  1452. # [22:35] <jrmuizel> Callek: what's the problem?
  1453. # [22:36] <Callek> jrmuizel: basically looking into https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898519
  1454. # [22:36] <Callek> jrmuizel: so far restarts of the OS (sudo reboot) have recovered, but even today philor claims that one slave has had this issue for the second time in 3 days
  1455. # [22:36] <Callek> jrmuizel: so I'm theorizing a flakey test is getting us in this state
  1456. # [22:37] <Callek> jrmuizel: specifically in this case: https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/reports/slave_health/slave.html?name=talos-r4-lion-055 ---
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  1458. # [22:37] <jrmuizel> Callek: what's the connection to graphics?
  1459. # [22:38] <Callek> jrmuizel: hdiutil failure
  1460. # [22:38] <Callek> jrmuizel: sorry its an abstract graphics connection, so nothing is really concrete
  1461. # [22:38] <jrmuizel> hdiutil is for manipulating disks
  1462. # [22:38] <Callek> ahhh duh
  1463. # [22:38] <Callek> for some reason my mind was thinking hd==high-def==graphics
  1464. # [22:39] <jrmuizel> no sir :)
  1465. # [22:39] * Callek should know better since he has used hdiutil to mount/unmount disks directly as well
  1466. # [22:39] <Callek> s/disks/dmgs/
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  1468. # [22:41] <Callek> jrmuizel: if you feel up to helping peek here and tell me how crazy I am anyway: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26674701&tree=Try&full=1 was the first orange on this host, which had a startup crash [10.7 reftest]
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  1471. # [22:42] <Callek> followed by inbound mochi-bc https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26676986&tree=Mozilla-Inbound&full=1 (note the number of
  1472. # [22:42] <Callek> err number of "invalid context" in that log
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  1476. # [22:44] * bjacob just installed noscript --- that's how much i still trust web security / privacy
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  1481. # [22:48] <jrmuizel> Callek: the invalid contexts are pretty usual I believe
  1482. # [22:48] <Callek> ahhh ok, lastly the job with the real failure (unable to reboot due to uid) is http://buildbot-master79.srv.releng.usw2.mozilla.com:8201/builders/Rev4%20MacOSX%20Lion%2010.7%20mozilla-aurora%20opt%20test%20mochitest-1/builds/147/steps/run_script/logs/stdio incase that can give you any ideas
  1483. # [22:48] * Callek doesn't see anything in there obvious on a skim though
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  1495. # [22:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/349fee28f441 - Shane Caraveo - Bug 869278 - Fix intermittent mozSocial test failure. r=felipe, a=test-only
  1496. # [22:55] <Callek> jrmuizel: actually that test itself failed with |02:01:06 WARNING - PROCESS-CRASH | /tests/content/html/content/test/test_fullscreen-api.html | application crashed [@ JSContext::findVersion() const]|
  1497. # [22:55] <Callek> ooo he's gone
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  1499. # [22:56] <Callek> but that was after |02:00:25 INFO - 143313 INFO TEST-INFO | /tests/content/html/content/test/test_fullscreen-api.html | must wait for focus|
  1500. # [22:56] <Callek> err, wrong line
  1501. # [22:56] <Callek> |02:00:23 INFO - 2013-08-17 02:00:23.898 firefox-bin[1353:11e8f] ERROR: CGSSetWindowTransformAtPlacement() returned -308|
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  1503. # [22:58] <Callek> and things like |02:00:24 INFO - 2013-08-17 02:00:24.986 firefox-bin[1353:507] Mozilla has caught an Obj-C exception [NSInternalInconsistencyException: Error (268435459) creating CGSWindow on line 263]|
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