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  1. # Session Start: Mon Aug 19 00:00:00 2013
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  8. # [00:04] <robertbindar> Hi guys. I've just cloned the repo and I
  9. # [00:04] <robertbindar> I'm getting this errors on building: "/home/bindar/Desktop/mozilla-central/js/src/vm/Stack-inl.h:233: error: undefined reference to 'js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES_TRUSTED'
  10. # [00:04] <robertbindar> "
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  12. # [00:05] <robertbindar> this one, as well:"/home/bindar/Desktop/mozilla-central/js/src/vm/Stack-inl.h:233: error: undefined reference to 'js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES'"
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  14. # [00:06] <robertbindar> did anyone face these errors too?
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  18. # [00:10] <NeilAway> the number of files in an objdir is too damn high
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  20. # [00:16] <mjh563> robertbindar: it looks as if that code was added in https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a2c5f867eb56
  21. # [00:17] <mjh563> bug 906040
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  29. # [00:27] <robertbindar> mjh563: I will try yves's solution
  30. # [00:27] <robertbindar> mjh563: is anything else I can do?
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  47. # [00:47] <cpearce> hmm, why is console.log in my app/roaming dir 1.3GB?
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  51. # [00:52] <cpearce> wow, I have error messages from 2010 in my console.log, why do we no delete it on exit?
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  57. # [00:58] <@smaug> oh, what is console.log
  58. # [00:59] <@smaug> it is not per profile?
  59. # [00:59] <@smaug> cpearce: please file a bug
  60. # [00:59] <@smaug> (looks like I have 450MB console.log )
  61. # [01:00] <cpearce> I just deleted it, and my profile seems to work fine...
  62. # [01:00] <cpearce> smaug: I will file a bug.
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  68. # [01:02] <@smaug> cpearce: "regression" from Bug 291129
  69. # [01:02] <cpearce> well, the console.log isn't coming back, maybe it got moved to another location?
  70. # [01:03] <cpearce> (that is, I deleted it, but now that I've restarted, the file isn't being re-created)
  71. # [01:03] <cpearce> ah, it's only logged to disk in debug builds.
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  75. # [01:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2b003d033fa4 - Nicholas Cameron - Bug 904343. Clear surface descriptors. r=nical.
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  83. # [01:15] <jcranmer> single-stepping through the entire mime assembly process
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  196. # [03:20] <abr> harth / Archaeopteryx: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904108
  197. # [03:21] <abr> But the short story is that Apple's clang 4.1 is too buggy to use.
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  219. # [03:48] <jesup> robertbindar: (if you come back): I've been hitting that too this weekend
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  230. # [03:59] <nattokirai> anyone seeing compile errors on OSX?
  231. # [03:59] <nattokirai> js/src/vm/ObjectImpl.h:152:8: error: no member named 'operator=' in 'JS::Value'
  232. # [03:59] <nattokirai> oddly, m-c seems fine and dandy
  233. # [03:59] <philor> nattokirai: bug 904108, you want to get yourself a newer clang
  234. # [04:00] <nattokirai> ah, ok
  235. # [04:01] <nattokirai> philor: shouldn't the build be testing for clang version?
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  238. # [04:05] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904108#c9
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  319. # [05:49] <ewong> might anyone know what's going on with this error? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2881465
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  323. # [05:55] <clever> ewong: have you done a clean recently, or just been pulling and compiling over the old?
  324. # [05:55] <ewong> clever it's a clobber build I believe
  325. # [05:55] <clever> oh wait, if i read it closer
  326. # [05:56] <clever> the conflicting symbol is in the host libs
  327. # [05:56] <clever> i'm guessing that stdc++compat.cpp was enabled, but shouldnt be
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  329. # [05:56] <clever> but ive got no clue what its for
  330. # [05:56] <ewong> clever ok. thanks. I'm clueless here
  331. # [05:57] <clever> ewong: it says that the above .cpp file provided a 5 byte long version of that, but the system libstdc++.a gave a 176 byte version
  332. # [05:57] <ewong> yeah.. I'm reading that.. I don't understand it..
  333. # [05:58] <ewong> an out of date library?
  334. # [05:59] <clever> more likely to be too new of a lib, if anything
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  346. # [06:09] <glob> happy bmo push day! http://globau.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/happy-bmo-push-day-60/
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  348. # [06:10] <heycam> bugzilla theme change!
  349. # [06:10] <glob> \o/
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  352. # [06:12] <derf> Thank God that can be reverted.
  353. # [06:13] <glob> derf, 3 minutes; almost a record
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  386. # [06:15] <ewong> 'too new of a lib"? whoa..
  387. # [06:16] <nrc> I've been using the Mozilla theme for a while, it is much nicer than the Dusk one
  388. # [06:18] <jcranmer> I like the dusk one better myself
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  394. # [06:23] * glob remembers very similar conversations when dusk was made the default XD
  395. # [06:23] <derf> The front page under the Mozilla theme required scrolling to see all the icons and had the text cut off.
  396. # [06:23] <derf> That was enough for me to revert to Dusk.
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  398. # [06:23] <glob> derf, that doesn't happen anymore
  399. # [06:23] <derf> glob: I tried it 15 minutes ago.
  400. # [06:24] <glob> derf, hrm, how tall is your screen?
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  402. # [06:24] <derf> glob: 1080 pixels, but I don't use a fullscreen window for my browser.
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  417. # [06:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9e1ae1f29036 - John Daggett - Bug 904263 - check pref settings more efficiently. r=dbaron
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  433. # [07:07] <heycam> I'm getting an assertion in the thumbnail process (I think). is there an easy way to get gdb to stop on its assertion? I'm using XPCOM_DEBUG_BREAK=break and `set follow-fork-mode child` in gdb without success.
  434. # [07:07] <khuey> OMG
  435. # [07:07] <khuey> bugzilla is different
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  452. # [07:19] <qDot> Uh
  453. # [07:19] <qDot> Whoa
  454. # [07:20] <qDot> What is with all these bright colors and rounded corners.
  455. # [07:22] <jcranmer> njn: you'll be happy to know that I've decided to actually work on the literal string stuff
  456. # [07:23] <@njn> jcranmer: nice
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  458. # [07:24] <jcranmer> if you're using nsACstring *, you're doing something wrong
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  461. # [07:25] <heycam> jcranmer, is my understanding correct that copying around nsStrings is relatively cheap, as they'll share and copy-on-write their buffers?
  462. # [07:26] <jcranmer> yep
  463. # [07:26] <heycam> great
  464. # [07:26] <heycam> thanks
  465. # [07:26] <jcranmer> the nsLiteralString is going one step forward and not copying dependencies
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  469. # [07:28] <heycam> does NS_LITERAL_STRING copy the const char[] you give it?
  470. # [07:28] <jcranmer> well, NS_LITERAL_STRING gets a const char16_t[]
  471. # [07:28] <heycam> (ah right)
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  473. # [07:29] <jcranmer> the changes I'm adding allow the underlying char16_t*/char* to be shared between strings
  474. # [07:29] <jcranmer> just like regular buffers
  475. # [07:29] <jcranmer> with a patch to make xpconnect use those same global buffers
  476. # [07:30] <heycam> sounds good
  477. # [07:30] <jcranmer> in theory, it should give some good codesize and speed wins
  478. # [07:30] <jcranmer> er, s/codesize/memory/
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  501. # [07:59] <mjrosenb|ARM> anyone know where mozilla::Array is defined?
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  504. # [08:03] <mjrosenb|ARM> ahh, mfbt/Vector.h
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  506. # [08:08] <Callek> not sure I see it there
  507. # [08:08] <Callek> ahhh http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mfbt/Array.h
  508. # [08:09] <Callek> mjrosenb|ARM: when point at a header useful to point at the right one :-P
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  510. # [08:14] <mjrosenb|ARM> err. oops.
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  512. # [08:14] <mjrosenb|ARM> I was looking at both mozilla::Array and the base vector implementation
  513. # [08:14] <mjrosenb|ARM> which were both in the same directory.
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  594. # [09:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/275a38cd4caf - David Anderson - Force OMTC on when enabling multi-process tabs (bug 897502, r=ncameron).
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  599. # [09:16] <mjrosenb|ARM> /home/mjrosenb/src/central/central/js/objs/arm-dbg/../../src/vm/Stack-inl.h:245: undefined reference to `js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES'
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  603. # [09:19] <Ms2ger> Whoa
  604. # [09:19] <Ms2ger> What happened to bmo?
  605. # [09:19] <glob> Ms2ger, magic, unicorns, candy, rainbows, ..
  606. # [09:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> oh god, the web-2.0, it burnnnnns
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  608. # [09:21] <glob> mjrosenb|ARM, if you prefer the old skin - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi (dusk), and disable showing gravatars
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  612. # [09:23] <Ms2ger> heycam|away, did you ever fix that ToString?
  613. # [09:23] <efaust> "wow, the new interface is so ugly. How do I get the old bmo back? Do you think your users just casually want your UI changes?"
  614. # [09:23] <glob> wat
  615. # [09:24] <bbrittain> AGH. BUGZILLA
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  621. # [09:26] <bbrittain> phew... the roaring godzilla is still there
  622. # [09:26] <edmorley> I personally prefer it...
  623. # [09:26] <tessarakt2> oh, it looks ... different
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  625. # [09:26] <bbrittain> I was worried they were gonna take it away
  626. # [09:26] <_AtilA_> I like it!
  627. # [09:26] <glob> bbrittain, if i had a replacement for that animated dino, i'd use it :D
  628. # [09:26] <bbrittain> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/extensions/BMO/web/images/mozchomp.gif :D
  629. # [09:27] <bbrittain> thats the best part about BMO!
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  631. # [09:27] <tessarakt2> at what time was the "munged" removed?
  632. # [09:27] <glob> the. best. part?
  633. # [09:27] <tessarakt2> I liked it more with it
  634. # [09:27] <bbrittain> glob: YES. it feels soooo. web 0.5
  635. # [09:27] <edmorley> glob: we so need an animated bugzilla version of http://xkcd.com/303/
  636. # [09:27] <NeilAway> bah, my build is very crashy today :s
  637. # [09:28] <glob> edmorley, nah, i want a "M" with a comet flying past in front of it
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  642. # [09:28] <glob> ( http://www.cre8ive.kr/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Netscape_throbber_2.gif )
  643. # [09:28] <bbrittain> glob: but... it's chomping bugs :(
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  657. # [09:36] <mjrosenb|ARM> NeilAway: sort-of. (iirc)
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  659. # [09:36] <heycam> Ms2ger, no; but the w3.org bugzilla bug remains there, so I'll get to it
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  685. # [09:57] <mjrosenb|ARM> woah, there are pictures on bmo now?
  686. # [09:57] <glob> mjrosenb|ARM, gravatars
  687. # [09:57] <glob> mjrosenb|ARM, http://gravatar.com/
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  704. # [10:07] <nick37> Hi guys, could you help me a little with the touch logic? - i'm looking for the logic that can find the element that was touched (i believe it's called hit testing or similar)?
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  712. # [10:15] <@roc> jfkthame: ping
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  714. # [10:15] <jfkthame> roc, pong
  715. # [10:15] <@roc> hmm
  716. # [10:16] <@roc> so, I'm wrestling with trying to get animated SVG glyphs working
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  718. # [10:16] <@roc> I'm trying to give each gfxFont a list of the gfxUserFontGroups that it's being used with
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  721. # [10:16] <jfkthame> offhand that sounds like it'll be a pain to maintain
  722. # [10:18] <@roc> it doesn't seem that bad ... for every gfxFontGroup G which has gfxFont F in its mFonts, and used its gfxUserFontGroup to get it, F has G's mUserFontGroup in its list
  723. # [10:18] <@roc> so we only need to update the list when gfxFontGroup::mFonts is updated, or destroyed
  724. # [10:18] <jfkthame> yeah, maybe it's not so bad, actually
  725. # [10:19] <@roc> so I'm looking at gfxFT2FontGroup::gfxFT2FontGroup
  726. # [10:19] * sewardj__ is now known as sewardj
  727. # [10:19] <@roc> it does mFonts.AppendElement(font), where font is nsRefPtr<gfxFT2Font>
  728. # [10:20] <@roc> I don't see how this works, since mFonts is an array of FamilyFaces
  729. # [10:20] <jfkthame> do we even still use that code? i think it's dead
  730. # [10:20] <@roc> I was hoping so
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  732. # [10:20] <jfkthame> yep, it's within #ifndef ANDROID, looks like
  733. # [10:21] <@roc> oookay
  734. # [10:21] <@roc> I missed that
  735. # [10:21] <@roc> thanks
  736. # [10:21] <jfkthame> in principle i suppose it could be used on some minor platforms, but they aren't currently being maintained, clearly
  737. # [10:21] * jfkthame looks at os/2
  738. # [10:21] <@roc> my other problem is of course gfxPangoFonts
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  740. # [10:21] <jfkthame> but that's no problem, as you have easy access to karl :)
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  742. # [10:22] <@roc> not at this time of night :-)
  743. # [10:22] <jfkthame> user font management in there confuses me every time i revisit it
  744. # [10:22] <@roc> I was planning to hack gfxPangoFontGroup::GetBaseFont
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  747. # [10:22] <@roc> does gfxPangoFontGroup get used for all desktop Linux fontgroups?
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  749. # [10:23] <jfkthame> i believe so, iirc
  750. # [10:23] <NeilAway> derf/glob: I'd already previously changed my preference from system default to classic, so that's a negative number of minutes :-P
  751. # [10:23] <@roc> sigh
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  753. # [10:24] <jfkthame> i wonder if you'll need to look somewhere under gfxPangoFontGroup::MakeFontSet or thereabouts
  754. # [10:26] <jfkthame> it's during the construction of the gfxFcFontSet that we actually look for any user fonts that are involved
  755. # [10:27] <NeilAway> glob: http://mxr-test.mozilla.org/mozilla1.7/source/themes/modern/communicator/brand/throbber-anim.gif
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  759. # [10:27] <glob> NeilAway, minus the dino, it's deprecated
  760. # [10:28] <Ms2ger> Boo
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  779. # [10:44] <@roc> jfkthame: AFAICT all I need to do is modify gfxPangoFontGroup::GetBaseFont to add the userfontset to the font when we set up the font for real, and modify gfxPangoFontGroup::UpdateFontList to remove the userfontset from the font in mFonts (if any)
  780. # [10:45] <jfkthame> in GetBaseFont, can you readily tell whether any user fonts were actually used for this fontgroup?
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  783. # [10:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2bd6afa556c9 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 906040 followup - Use if-else rather than a ternary operator to work around link errors with GCC. r=h4writer on IRC
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  791. # [10:55] <jfkthame> roc: by the way, while you're looking at svg/ot stuff, we also need to resolve bug 875329 one way or another
  792. # [10:56] <@roc> yes
  793. # [10:57] <jfkthame> roc: i've got a small show-and-tell demo posted at http://people.mozilla.org/~jkew/opentype-svg/GeckoEmoji.html, but currently it's necessary to tweak prefs in order for it to render
  794. # [10:58] <@roc> yeah I'd better tell you what I'm up to :-)
  795. # [10:58] <@roc> I was busy last week with people visiting
  796. # [10:59] <@roc> but since Friday I've written a JS tool that lets you load a font and edit the document in the SVG table
  797. # [10:59] <jfkthame> oh, fun!
  798. # [10:59] <@roc> the generated font is loaded into the page so you see live results on real text, at every keystroke
  799. # [11:00] <@roc> also I updated the tool to Sairus' latest spec and I have Gecko patches to update to that spec too.
  800. # [11:00] <@roc> I found and fixed the glyph overflow bug I was seeing
  801. # [11:00] <@roc> and I am *this* close to having animation working
  802. # [11:01] <jfkthame> sounds awesome
  803. # [11:01] <jfkthame> i'll be seeing sairus later this week, he'll be delighted at all the above i'm sure
  804. # [11:01] <@roc> I plan to pull a late night and get this all uploded tonight with some try builds
  805. # [11:03] <jfkthame> then i guess i'll need to update my GeckoEmoji font to match the new spec, but that should be pretty straightforward
  806. # [11:04] <Ms2ger> felipe, I didn't know we had a build peer called paolo for https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/f40527322ff1 ?
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  808. # [11:06] <@roc> jfkthame: BTW I think we should resolve bug 875329 by closing it as INVALID :-)
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  810. # [11:07] <jfkthame> roc: no, i don't agree with that - note that it's an issue with *any* transforms used within the glyph, not only the peculiar case of a glyph that's defined as a sub-element of a transformed parent
  811. # [11:08] <@roc> it is?
  812. # [11:09] <jfkthame> that's how i recall, at least - /me goes back to re-read it
  813. # [11:09] <@roc> in your testcase there is a transform *on* the glyph <g>
  814. # [11:10] <jfkthame> so there is - which i think we do need to support, it's the only reasonable way to use artwork that was created for a different coordinate space
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  817. # [11:11] <jfkthame> but iirc i also tried a transform on a subelement *within* the glyph and had problems there too
  818. # [11:11] <Ms2ger> dcamp, is Console.jsm exposed to the web?
  819. # [11:11] <jfkthame> i may be remembering that wrong, i guess i should re-test
  820. # [11:11] <jfkthame> which will be easy to do with your new JS tool :)
  821. # [11:11] <@roc> oh, in your testcase the entire document is the glyph
  822. # [11:11] <@roc> that's weird
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  824. # [11:12] <jfkthame> why weird? seems like a particularly obvious use-case
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  826. # [11:12] <@roc> but yes, transforms in or on glyphs should definitely work.
  827. # [11:12] <@roc> what if the <svg> has a viewBox?
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  830. # [11:13] <jfkthame> i tried that but couldn't get it to work - probably due to the same issue, i guess
  831. # [11:14] <jfkthame> i thought viewBox ought to be the proper way to scale the artwork, but after trying and failing, i fell back to calculating the transform i needed manually
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  844. # [11:31] <jez999> I'm getting strange behaviour when I apply a border with alpha transparency to a <statusbar> in XUL in Aero. the border, instead of adopting the background color of the Aero glass, seems to adopt a lighter background color. Does it adopt the background color of the status bar itself instead?
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  852. # [11:38] <jez999> It looks like a status bar's border is overlaid over pixels that are the same color as the status bar. why is this and is there any way to make the status bar border work properly? otherwise i'm thinking this is a bug.
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  859. # [11:46] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ad0a766f2f6b - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 877673 - Part 1: AutoDontReportUncaught. r=bholley
  860. # [11:46] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9b4c4e56f4bb - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 877673 - Part2: Export helpers for sandbox. r=bholley
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  875. # [12:00] <_AtilA_> &j openwebapps
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  882. # [12:05] <Optimize1> does position:absolute;display:block; to an XUL button not work when the button is inside a vbox ?
  883. # [12:05] <Gijs> Optimize1: XUL + position:absolute is kinda asking for trouble...
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  886. # [12:06] <Optimize1> should not be trouble when I have done display block
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  888. # [12:06] <Optimize1> that converts its positioning to a normal html element
  889. # [12:06] <Optimize1> but its not working only for buttons :/
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  891. # [12:07] <Gijs> Are you sure there's nothing with !important screwing over your saying it should be display:block?
  892. # [12:07] <Gijs> Also, "should" is the right word...
  893. # [12:07] <Optimize1> I have !important on those two rules
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  897. # [12:08] <Optimize1> and in the computed view, I can see them having both those properties
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  899. # [12:08] <Optimize1> so CSS not getting applied is not an issue, but when I do top: 0px, it does not work .
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  901. # [12:09] <Optimize1> even if computed style has top: 0px
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  904. # [12:09] <YamakasY_Mobile> Hi guys!
  905. # [12:10] <YamakasY_Mobile> I'm busy with WebRTC and I'm wondering if there is any new on audio and video in one file/blob
  906. # [12:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d608711909f4 - David Zbarsky - Bug 903283: Don't include EventTarget.h in headers r=Ms2ger
  907. # [12:12] <@mounir> gasp, why changing bugzilla's theme for already registered users? :(
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  910. # [12:15] <jgraham> mounir: Because even bugzilla should move on from 1998 sometimes :)
  911. # [12:15] <AutomatedTester> I quite like the new skin
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  914. # [12:17] <@mounir> I guess I need to got used to
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  917. # [12:18] <jgraham> I might switch off the gravatar thing, but apart from that it looks nice.
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  922. # [12:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b5a0de73c74 - Mina Almasry - Bug 717181 - Make <fieldset> invalid if they contain an invalid form control; r=mounir
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  924. # [12:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dbc04a661a1a - John Daggett - Bug 875250 - implement CSS parsing of text-orientation, text-combine-horizontal properties. r=dholbert
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  930. # [12:28] <dcamp> Ms2ger: nope
  931. # [12:28] <Ms2ger> dcamp, okay, thanks
  932. # [12:30] <ktos> citing https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla_Source_Code_Directory_Structure
  933. # [12:30] <ktos> view
  934. # [12:30] <ktos> View manager. Contains cross-platform code used for painting, scrolling, event handling, z-ordering, and opacity. Soon to become obsolete, gradually.
  935. # [12:31] <ktos> tell me please, become obsolete in favor of what?
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  942. # [12:35] <Ms2ger> ktos, dbaron wrote that in December 2005, and it's still here, so I don't think you need to worry about it
  943. # [12:35] <ktos> Ms2ger: so you think its obsoletion is cancelled? :)
  944. # [12:36] <Ms2ger> ktos, let's say "postponed indefinitely" :)
  945. # [12:36] <edmorley> we're too busy updating the version number to obsolete it.. :-)
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  947. # [12:37] <Ms2ger> And a good morning to you too, edmorley :)
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  949. # [12:37] <edmorley> Ms2ger: good morning :-)
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  951. # [12:37] <edmorley> yey gaia backouts
  952. # [12:37] <ktos> actually I found that because I was looking for NSView embedding widget (which is gonna be dropped as I heard) and now I'm confused is that what I found that or not because of similar name :)
  953. # [12:38] * edmorley glares at the B2G device iamge builds that aren't using the gia manifest in the tree
  954. # [12:38] <edmorley> gaia, even
  955. # [12:38] <Ms2ger> edmorley, is that the busted B2G Unagi opt I'm seeing on try?
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  957. # [12:38] <ktos> I mean, is view directory file this widget or not
  958. # [12:38] <edmorley> Ms2ger: if it;'s anything like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26713028&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
  959. # [12:39] <Ms2ger> edmorley, yep, thanks
  960. # [12:39] <edmorley> yw
  961. # [12:39] <edmorley> ktos: I'm sorry, I don't know
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  963. # [12:40] <ktos> Ms2ger: do you?
  964. # [12:42] <@smaug> hmm, bugzilla has some pictures for accounts
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  967. # [12:46] <jez9999> http://game-point.net/misc/statusbar.png
  968. # [12:47] <jez9999> see that dark-red border?
  969. # [12:47] <@roc> jfkthame: wow, after I got this mess to build it worked the very first time!!!
  970. # [12:47] <jfkthame> roc: awesome!
  971. # [12:47] <jfkthame> ship it
  972. # [12:47] <jez9999> that should be on top of the window 'glass', not on top of the red statusbar
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  975. # [12:47] <jez9999> why would the border behave like this? is it a bug?
  976. # [12:47] <@roc> I'd better run a few more tests :-)
  977. # [12:48] <jfkthame> tests? reviews? hmph
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  979. # [12:48] <Ms2ger> ktos, maybe roc knows :)
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  984. # [12:51] <ktos> roc: any idea please, is `view` directory in project source code the embedding widget for mac?
  985. # [12:51] <@roc> definitely not!
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  987. # [12:52] <@roc> jfkthame: animating x and y on the glyph is pretty mind-blowing. It can roam all over the page
  988. # [12:53] <ktos> lol
  989. # [12:53] <jfkthame> a new way to implement sprite graphics games
  990. # [12:53] <Ms2ger> roc, fwiw, as much as you hate them, your talks are quite interesting :)
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  992. # [12:54] <@roc> jfkthame: I really need someone with considerably more graphic design skill than me to make some rocking demos
  993. # [12:54] <ktos> I sense conspiracy
  994. # [12:54] <jfkthame> roc: i expect we can get the adobe people to contribute there
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  996. # [12:56] <jfkthame> roc: looks like the phantom open emoji project has added some animations, so we should look into building a font that includes those
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  998. # [12:56] <@roc> yes indeed
  999. # [12:59] <jfkthame> if you get your patches uploaded, maybe i can find time to hack on that later this week - i have a script that builds a static font from the POE graphics, so i could work on adding animation support to that
  1000. # [13:00] <@roc> jfkthame: hopefully this JS font manipulation code I've written negates the argument of old-style SVG fonts being needed for font editing and dynamic font generation
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  1002. # [13:01] <ktos> how can I find the author of some file e.g. http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/view/public/nsView.h ?
  1003. # [13:01] <ktos> i must be documented somewhere what it does :O
  1004. # [13:01] <ktos> it can't be blackbox
  1005. # [13:01] <ktos> it must*
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  1007. # [13:02] <jfkthame> roc: is that even an argument that anyone cares about any more? i kind of assume people would use something like inkscape to create graphics, then just need a simple tool to embed those in a font
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  1011. # [13:03] <jfkthame> being able to edit and see changes instantly in context sounds really neat, though
  1012. # [13:04] <@smaug> ktos: first, don't use dxr. mxr has links to hg blame http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/view/public/nsView.h and the old CVS blame can be found from other mxr http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/view/src/nsView.h
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  1015. # [13:04] <@smaug> (and afaik, view doesn't do much these days)
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  1018. # [13:05] <@smaug> ktos: but why you want to know anything about view?
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  1024. # [13:07] <ktos> smaug: thanks for tip, I didn't know mxr exist, just found in google the dxr link
  1025. # [13:08] <ktos> smaug: I'm trying to figure out what this code does
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  1028. # [13:09] <@smaug> it is a layer between widget level code and layout ...
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  1030. # [13:10] <ktos> smaug: by widget level you do you mean widget for embedding?
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  1032. # [13:12] <@smaug> I mean http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/ . In general it is widget level code which interacts with the OS
  1033. # [13:13] <@smaug> gets events from OS etc.
  1034. # [13:15] <@roc> jfkthame: that depends on what you mean by "anyone" :-)
  1035. # [13:15] <jfkthame> "anyone who matters" :)
  1036. # [13:15] <jfkthame> for some arbitrary definition of "matters"
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  1039. # [13:17] <ktos> smaug: ok, I see, thank you for explanation
  1040. # [13:17] <ktos> smaug: I'm asking because I can't identify NSView embedding widget mentioned here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.embedding/c_NMcO-N8wo
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  1042. # [13:17] <ktos> would you mind to take a look please?
  1043. # [13:18] <ktos> "we ought to continue supporting our various embedding efforts
  1044. # [13:18] <ktos> (gtkmozembed, javaxpcom, the ActiveX control, the NSView embedding
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  1046. # [13:18] <ktos> widget, "
  1047. # [13:18] <ktos> sorry for line breaks
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  1049. # [13:18] <ktos> no idea what NSView is in that context
  1050. # [13:19] <jfkthame> NSView would be the Cocoa framework's NSView class
  1051. # [13:19] <NeilAway> glob|away: is it me or does the new default skin not have quicksearch at the bottom?
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  1053. # [13:20] <jfkthame> i don't know the status of our embedding there (if any), but the place to start looking would probably be in widget/cocoa/nsCocoaWindow.{h,mm}
  1054. # [13:21] <@smaug> also, #embedlite has been doing some embedding work lately
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  1056. # [13:22] <@roc> jfkthame: alright, I have an "i" with the dot bouncing up and down and growing and shrinking, while the color of the entire glyph oscillates between red and green. MY WORK HERE IS DONE
  1057. # [13:23] <jfkthame> roc: sounds very cool - i trust this is fully documented and tested? :)
  1058. # [13:23] <ktos> nsCocoaWindow makes sense, however I'm wondering why it is part of dropped support if that is widget thing used in xulrunner?
  1059. # [13:23] <@roc> there's nothing to document on the spec side. Animation just works.
  1060. # [13:23] <jfkthame> fair enough
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  1062. # [13:25] <jfkthame> roc: if you get your patches posted, maybe i can play with it on the plane tomorrow en route to typecon
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  1064. # [13:25] <ktos> wait, I can just ask the author of post, lol
  1065. # [13:26] <@roc> indeed. I'll do that now.
  1066. # [13:26] <jfkthame> is there a bug for the animation support? i thought we had one but am not finding it offhand
  1067. # [13:26] <ktos> is Benjamin Smedberg here?
  1068. # [13:26] <ktos> :)
  1069. # [13:26] <@smaug> is he still on vacation
  1070. # [13:27] <padenot> ktos: not at the moment, he might come later
  1071. # [13:27] <padenot> ha
  1072. # [13:27] <ktos> too bad, maybe I will ask on embedlite indeed :)
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  1079. # [13:32] <jfkthame> roc: drat - the animations in PhantomOpenEmoji are all drawn as individual frames, not by animating values within a single graphic
  1080. # [13:32] <@roc> lame
  1081. # [13:32] <jfkthame> yep :(
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  1083. # [13:33] <@roc> I'll file a new bug for animation support
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  1085. # [13:33] <jfkthame> cc me on it, please
  1086. # [13:33] <@roc> I suppose you can tweak one glyph by hand to show them how it should be done :-)
  1087. # [13:33] <jfkthame> yeah, i'll look into that
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  1089. # [13:34] <@roc> I'm testing using SVG Animations but CSS animations and even animated GIFs should work too.
  1090. # [13:34] <@roc> you won't get GPU acceleration for CSS animations in this context, though :-)
  1091. # [13:34] <jfkthame> like i care
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  1106. # [13:48] <davidb> heyo!
  1107. # [13:48] <davidb> oops wrong channel - but hey anyways!
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  1113. # [13:50] <baku> js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES_TRUSTED undefined reference
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  1115. # [13:50] <baku> this just pulling from m-c.
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  1128. # [14:02] <mjh563> baku: that's caused by the patch in bug 906040
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  1130. # [14:02] <baku> mjh563, is someone working on it?
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  1132. # [14:03] <baku> mjh563, or do we have a quick workaround?
  1133. # [14:03] <mjh563> baku: according to the bug, a fix was pushed to mozilla-inbound ~3 hours ago
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  1135. # [14:03] <baku> mjh563, ok! tnx
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  1148. # [14:09] <jfkthame> roc: so it turns out i can *either* have transforms working (by setting svg.display-lists.painting.enabled to false) *or* svg animations, but not both at once
  1149. # [14:10] <jfkthame> as disabling display-lists seems to break the updating of animations
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  1230. # [15:14] <digitsm> A question about legal issues. There is a HTML5 app which is actually a book. I want to make a customized Firefox app to load it on android and I can publish my customized fennec code as open-source but I can't publish the HTML5 book (it will be commercial I think). Is it possible to use Fennec code for this purpose then?
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  1237. # [15:20] <Optimizer> will the new downloads manager API reduce the hangs that happen while downloading + saving files ?
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  1244. # [15:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7d3ba33cc1ad - Patrick McManus - bug 905460 - make http objects use smart pointers r=sworkman
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  1247. # [15:30] <dustin> I'd like to add a new repo (screenresolution) to the mozilla github org, but I don't have permissions to do so. Is there a way to get such perms, or someone I should ask to create the repo?
  1248. # [15:30] <dustin> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906656
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  1251. # [15:32] <edmorley> dustin: someone from the owners team (https://github.com/organizations/mozilla/teams) will need to create it
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  1253. # [15:33] <edmorley> dustin: and then I think permissions have to be assigned to a group (vs person), but there should be releng groups
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  1255. # [15:34] <dustin> ok, tx
  1256. # [15:34] <jfkthame> hmm, can't seem to log in to service-now ... is it working for other people?
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  1258. # [15:36] <edmorley> dustin: in fact there is a "mozilla/releng" team
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  1260. # [15:37] <dustin> I'm probably not in that team, but that's enough info - thanks
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  1262. # [15:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cba433799e1b - Robert Bindar - Bug 906327 - about:networking crash when clicking between menu buttons. r=valentin.gosu
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  1265. # [15:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6f4dbb2a8e94 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 871242 - Use js_malloc and js_realloc for the Sprinter to avoid the need for a JSContext. r=luke
  1266. # [15:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0de80ebbcbd3 - Cervantes Yu - Bug 897741 - Limit the CSP cache key size to reduce memory usage. r=fabrice
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  1277. # [15:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/85b53f097e1f - Jon Coppeard - Bug 903548 - GC: What do we do for UnmarkGray on a Nursery GCThing? r=billm
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  1283. # [15:51] <jabbar> I working on a ff extension. I have a context menu with menuitem(checkbox type).after clicking one of this menu item the context menu disappear.i want that context menu remain untill user checked one or more item.for this i use preventDefault but this didn't work also.this is my code:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2883266.someone help me
  1284. # [15:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/647a56cd58ac - Hannes Verschore - Bug 906626: Tracelogger: Fix the includes and address style nits, r=njn
  1285. # [15:52] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/74454e112554 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 904293: Tracelogger: Make it work on x86, r=jandem
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  1287. # [15:52] <jabbar> my code:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2883266
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  1289. # [15:54] <RattyAway> anyone know what this means? gcc: unrecognized option '-static-libstdc++'
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  1295. # [15:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/426f477baba5 - Benoit Girard - Bug 747811 - Make the tiles backend safe across processes. r=nrc,BenWa
  1296. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/97d2a33c5455 - Chris Lord - Bug 747811 - Separate gfxReusableSurfaceWrapper into a base class and implementation. r=BenWa
  1297. # [15:57] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2e1710495bd9 - Chris Lord - Bug 747811 - Add gfxReusableImageSurfaceWrapper. r=BenWa
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  1299. # [15:57] <BenWa> Cwiiis: \o/
  1300. # [15:57] <@Cwiiis> BenWa, _o/\o_
  1301. # [15:58] <@Cwiiis> Fingers crossed there isn't any horrible fall-out...
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  1305. # [16:00] <@roc> jfkthame: http://people.mozilla.com/~roc/animated-SVG-glyphs.webm
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  1308. # [16:01] <jfkthame> roc: congratulations - very cool :)
  1309. # [16:01] <jfkthame> now get some sleep!
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  1313. # [16:02] <jfkthame> roc: what's the ever-increasing "size" value there - is something leaking?
  1314. # [16:03] <@roc> no, that's the size of the recorded video :-)
  1315. # [16:03] <jfkthame> ah, ok :)
  1316. # [16:04] <@roc> I wouldn't be surprised if this patch stack has some leak issues though
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  1321. # [16:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/db6970712768 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 848098 - Annotate test_recursion.html for intermittent OSX asserts. a=test-only
  1322. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/dcde9c1791a2 - Honza Bambas - Bug 877562 - Protect appcache hash tables with a mutex. r=jduell, a=bajaj
  1323. # [16:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/6c752934f8b5 - Mark Hammond - Bug 899436 - OS.File lastModificationDate is erroneously returning lastAccessDate on Windows. r=yoric, a=bajaj
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  1347. # [16:16] <@roc> edmorley: why are you starring my try pushes? A for effort, but is it really necessary?
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  1350. # [16:17] <edmorley> roc: Try-only lion machine issue; easiest way to collate which machines need a reimage :-)
  1351. # [16:17] <@roc> genius
  1352. # [16:17] <@roc> ok I'm out of here
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  1358. # [16:20] <nmatsakis> woah. bugzilla looks new
  1359. # [16:20] * nmatsakis states the obvious
  1360. # [16:20] <kats> they changed the default theme
  1361. # [16:20] <glob> .. and enabled gravatars
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  1377. # [16:28] <edmorley> ehsan, khuey|away: Ms2ger just pointed out the removing #includes work seems to be having a positive effect on the Windows PGO linker mem usage.. http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[205,1,8],[205,63,8]]&sel=none&displayrange=365&datatype=running
  1378. # [16:29] <@ehsan> edmorley: oh nice! :)
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  1415. # [16:48] <till> evilpie: it's not even painful
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  1417. # [16:49] <evilpie> "sign in with wordpress" what?!
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  1419. # [16:49] <till> there's that, yes
  1420. # [16:49] <evilpie> seems like a very good use case for persona
  1421. # [16:50] <till> except for gravatar being a thing from the wordpress people: yes
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  1427. # [16:53] <RyanVM> evilpie: unless you're s-g...
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  1437. # [16:58] <evilpie> RyanVM: why?
  1438. # [16:59] <RyanVM> evilpie: because you can't login into bugzilla with persona if you're in s-g
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  1442. # [17:00] <evilpie> oh interesting
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  1447. # [17:02] <evilpie> actually you could signup at at gravatar with the email address you login in with
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  1449. # [17:02] <evilpie> so it would still work, as long as it's the same one
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  1452. # [17:05] <@ehsan> man
  1453. # [17:05] <@ehsan> why do I have two avatars for everybody in bugzilla? :(
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  1455. # [17:05] <padenot> bugzilla js
  1456. # [17:05] <glob> ehsan, https://github.com/gkoberger/BugzillaJS/issues/87
  1457. # [17:05] <@ehsan> ah yes
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  1459. # [17:06] <@ehsan> great!
  1460. # [17:06] <@ehsan> now, next question
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  1462. # [17:06] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: why don't you have a gravatar?
  1463. # [17:06] <edmorley> lol
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  1465. # [17:06] <glob> yeah, even philor has one
  1466. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> ehsan, https://twitter.com/DavidBruant/status/369394082738491392
  1467. # [17:07] <@ehsan> (only half kidding :D)
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  1472. # [17:07] <Ms2ger> ehsan, you're a little behind the times :)
  1473. # [17:07] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: https://twitter.com/ehsanakhgari/status/369476760217219073
  1474. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> Ha
  1475. # [17:08] <edmorley> Ms2ger: how about this one? http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/images/01_spy_hat.jpg
  1476. # [17:08] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: also, y u no reviews????
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  1479. # [17:09] <Ms2ger> ehsan, blame peterv, he always tells me to focus on uni :)
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  1481. # [17:09] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: academics are overrated
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  1489. # [17:10] <evilpie> these reviews are super awkward https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keywordurl-hack/reviews/497800/
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  1491. # [17:11] <Ms2ger> evilpie, yeah, very lucky indeed!
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  1493. # [17:12] <Ms2ger> evilpie, so, about docshell..
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  1495. # [17:12] <@ehsan> evilpie: oh, I also wrote that add-on!
  1496. # [17:12] <@ehsan> evilpie: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/browse-by-name/
  1497. # [17:12] <@ehsan> lol
  1498. # [17:12] <evilpie> haha
  1499. # [17:12] <evilpie> and this one https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keyword-search/?src=ss
  1500. # [17:13] <@ehsan> too bad we had to remove this :/
  1501. # [17:13] <@ehsan> (cc gavin)
  1502. # [17:13] <@ehsan> seems like it's sort of a popular request
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  1504. # [17:13] * @ehsan 's inbox has been flooded by people complaining about Browse By Name not working any more
  1505. # [17:13] <evilpie> I think combined we are at like ~5,000 users
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  1508. # [17:14] <@ehsan> coule be
  1509. # [17:14] <@ehsan> could be, even
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  1512. # [17:15] <evilpie> oh you addon is not working anymore is guess?
  1513. # [17:15] <evilpie> *I
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  1515. # [17:16] <unitraxx> Hi, I was wondering if there will be any internships next year?
  1516. # [17:17] <@ehsan> evilpie: keyword.URL was removed in 23
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  1518. # [17:17] <evilpie> I know, that is what my addon fixes
  1519. # [17:17] <padenot> unitraxx: yes
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  1521. # [17:18] <padenot> unitraxx: come in #interns !
  1522. # [17:18] <@ehsan> evilpie: oh really? how?
  1523. # [17:18] <NeilAway> RyanVM|brb: didn't they change that?
  1524. # [17:18] <mr_sticky> how do u set up venv?
  1525. # [17:18] <evilpie> ehsan: hacks!
  1526. # [17:18] <NeilAway> ehsan++
  1527. # [17:18] <evilpie> I replace the search provider service
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  1529. # [17:19] <@ehsan> ew
  1530. # [17:19] <@ehsan> gross
  1531. # [17:19] <@ehsan> evilpie: have fun maintaining that addon ;)
  1532. # [17:19] <evilpie> Mike Kaply actually has a nicer solution, which I am probably going to steal
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  1534. # [17:20] <evilpie> He uses the observer notification on search and then initiates a new load that cancels the old one
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  1537. # [17:21] <@ehsan> that seems better
  1538. # [17:22] <evilpie> yeah will do that at some point
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  1545. # [17:24] <gcp> Assertion failure: !aOther.IsNull() (Cannot compute with aOther null value), at ../../dist/include/mozilla/TimeStamp.h:314
  1546. # [17:24] <gcp> known issue with m-c?
  1547. # [17:24] <gcp> startup failure
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  1549. # [17:25] <jez9999> -moz-appearance:none
  1550. # [17:25] <jez9999> Does anyone know what determines the ThreeDShadow etc. colors when -moz-appearance is set to statusbarpanel?
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  1558. # [17:28] <Enn> jez9999: the operating system draws them
  1559. # [17:28] <jez9999> so why do those colours change when -moz-appearance is set to none?
  1560. # [17:28] <@ehsan> gcp: you should look at the caller
  1561. # [17:29] <gcp> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2883630
  1562. # [17:29] <gcp> happens even with fresh profile
  1563. # [17:29] <Enn> jez: because moz-appearance: none means override the os colours and use my own.
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  1565. # [17:30] <Enn> jez9999: the colours are generally ignored when -moz-appearance is set to statusbarpanel
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  1568. # [17:30] <jez9999> Enn: hmm it's annoying because having -moz-appearance set to statusbarpanel gives a nice mid-grey that i can't get otherwise
  1569. # [17:31] <@ehsan> padenot: how are the web audio aurora uplifts doing?
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  1571. # [17:31] <jez9999> i think i'm gonna use ThreeDShadow with alpha transparency to wash it out a bit. thanks.
  1572. # [17:31] <Enn> jez9999: it might be purple though if someone has their os theme set to show statusbars in purple
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  1575. # [17:32] <jez9999> so when moz-appearance is none, gecko has a built-in value for ThreeDShadow?
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  1577. # [17:32] <padenot> ehsan: we need approval on roc's media element fix
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  1580. # [17:33] <padenot> ehsan: I planned to approval-ping in the bug today, I'll do it in a minute
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  1588. # [17:34] <jez9999> Enn: any idea?
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  1591. # [17:34] <@ehsan> padenot: thanks
  1592. # [17:34] <@ehsan> it's frustrating how long it takes for stuff to get approved :(
  1593. # [17:34] <Enn> jez9999: the os also supplies those constants. On windows for example they come from the GetSysColor function
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  1596. # [17:35] <jez9999> i see.
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  1601. # [17:35] <jez9999> well thanks
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  1604. # [17:36] <@ehsan> ted: why is Crash Me Now Advanced 0.4 broken?
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  1612. # [17:45] <jcranmer> because Crash me crashed? :-)
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  1616. # [17:47] <RyanVM|Sheriff> NeilAway: not AFAIK - it was enabled for like a day and then turned back off
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  1627. # [17:50] <@ehsan> ted: the Tools menu item has no submenus any more, but I managed to crash through the Preferences pane for the add-on
  1628. # [17:50] <evilpie> Enn: bug 904865 ping
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  1653. # [17:57] <ophir|away> Whoa there bugzilla redesign
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  1664. # [17:59] <mbrubeck> now I have two gravatars next to each comment, thanks to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bugzillajs/ :)
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  1667. # [17:59] <gcp> 4:31.26 /usr/bin/ld.gold.real: ../libjs_static.a(Interpreter.o): in function js::InterpreterStack::allocateFrame(JSContext*, unsigned long):/home/morbo/hg/mozilla-central/js/src/vm/Stack-inl.h:233: error: undefined reference to 'js::InterpreterStack::MAX_FRAMES_TRUSTED'
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  1669. # [18:00] <gcp> I can't even compile desktop with -O0
  1670. # [18:00] <gcp> jeez
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  1675. # [18:01] <glob> dang
  1676. # [18:02] * glob flips bmo back to dusk - bug 906667
  1677. # [18:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/2d0439c5138f - Jan de Mooij - Bug 906040 - Bring back the higher recursion limit for chrome scripts in the interpreter. r=luke, a=bajaj
  1678. # [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/209b28130fd1 - Tanvi Vyas - Bug 902350 - Mochitest. r=smaug, a=bajaj
  1679. # [18:02] <ted> ehsan: i don't know, it's broken only on mac
  1680. # [18:02] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8959a853c1f0 - Tanvi Vyas - Bug 902350 - Set the appropriate content type when navigating a frame with a target that changes the top level document. r=smaug, a=bajaj
  1681. # [18:02] <ted> works fine on windows/lniux
  1682. # [18:02] <ted> linux
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  1684. # [18:03] <ted> ehsan: but yeah, the actual crashing functionality works (i've called it directly from the browser console)
  1685. # [18:03] <ted> just the menu is busted
  1686. # [18:03] <@ehsan> yeah
  1687. # [18:03] <@ehsan> anyways, consider this a bug report :)
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  1697. # [18:05] <RyanVM|Sheriff> glob: that was fun while it lasted
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  1699. # [18:06] <ted> ehsan: if you want to figure out *why* it's broken i'd be happy
  1700. # [18:06] <ted> it's pretty annoying :-/
  1701. # [18:06] <@ehsan> ted: where's the code?
  1702. # [18:06] <ted> pretty sure that version used to work, so something changed to break it
  1703. # [18:07] <ted> http://code.google.com/p/crashme/
  1704. # [18:07] <ted> you can check it out under extensions/ and --enable-extensions=default,crashme
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  1709. # [18:08] <ted> all the UI bits are in bootstrap.js now: code.google.com/p/crashme/source/browse/trunk/bootstrap.js
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  1736. # [18:15] <NeilAway> RyanVM|Sheriff: ah, I didn't realise that, thanks
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  1741. # [18:17] <evilpie> ehsan: o
  1742. # [18:17] <evilpie> sorry
  1743. # [18:17] <evilpie> Enn: okay, I see what you mean now
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  1747. # [18:19] <@ehsan> evilpie: cannot forgive you
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  1751. # [18:20] <NeilAway> glob: so, mozilla skin has no bottom quicksearch box, do I get to file a bug?
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  1754. # [18:20] <glob> NeilAway, no; that's a "design decision"
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  1759. # [18:21] <NeilAway> glob: bah, that means that I'd need to log in in all my profiles, not just the ones where I want to edit bugs
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  1766. # [18:23] <GPHemsley> hmm... gravatars on BMO are disconcerting at first...
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  1774. # [18:25] <evilpie> Enn: any idea what a real fix would look like?
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  1778. # [18:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/18fbb6afc9d4 - Dan Minor - Bug 903606 - Use mozfile.TemporaryDirectory in cppunittest scripts;r=ted
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  1790. # [18:28] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de5b7c7741e1 - David Keeler - bug 906209 - remove some spurious idl forward-declarations r=jlebar
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  1798. # [18:32] <lmandel> vlad: Are we on for e10s presentation tomorrow?
  1799. # [18:32] <vlad> lmandel: working on finding out today
  1800. # [18:32] <lmandel> vlad: k
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  1802. # [18:32] <Ms2ger> Hmm
  1803. # [18:33] * Ms2ger would like to see that
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  1837. # [18:45] <jlebar> Do XPCOM rules require that, if I QI an nsIFoo to nsISupports, I can then QI it back to nsIFoo?
  1838. # [18:45] <Ms2ger> Yes
  1839. # [18:45] <Ms2ger> Also with s/nsISupports/*/
  1840. # [18:46] <jlebar> Ms2ger: Is nsXPTCStubBase an exception?
  1841. # [18:46] <Ms2ger> Possibly
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  1844. # [18:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9ffe7f98806d - Brian Hackett - Bug 906331 - Make sure to init() and destroy PerThreadData instances in worker threads, r=billm.
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  1846. # [18:47] <Mook_as> huh, does nsXPTCStubBase not do the right thing in some cases? (excluding how broken nsIClassInfo is of course)
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  1848. # [18:48] <jlebar> Mook_as: I'm not sure; I'm writing a data structure which QI's everything to nsISupports and then QI's things back at the end. And it looks like an nsXPTCStubBase is not QI'ing back to nsIFoo, which it came in as.
  1849. # [18:48] * jlebar has never read this class
  1850. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> Ah, hrm
  1851. # [18:48] <Ms2ger> Is that JS-implemented objects?
  1852. # [18:48] <jlebar> Maybe?
  1853. # [18:49] <Ms2ger> I think so...
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  1856. # [18:49] <Mook_as> it's used for at least JS, proxied objects (... which no longer exist, I think?), and pyxpcom (which you are unlikely to have).
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  1859. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> Yeah, nsXPCWrappedJS
  1860. # [18:50] <khuey> nsXPTCStubBase
  1861. # [18:50] <khuey> evil evil code
  1862. # [18:50] <jlebar> khuey: so it seems.
  1863. # [18:50] <jlebar> khuey: Should I just give up on QI'ing everything to nsISupports?
  1864. # [18:51] * jlebar thought that would have been safe.
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  1867. # [18:51] <Mook_as> do you know what your nsIFoo actually is?
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  1869. # [18:52] <jlebar> Mook_as: it's a general data structure, so no. In this particular case, it's nsIMessageManager.
  1870. # [18:52] <jlebar> But it might be nsIObserver.
  1871. # [18:52] <jlebar> Or something else.
  1872. # [18:52] <khuey> jlebar: seems broken if nsXPTCStub
  1873. # [18:52] <khuey> er
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  1875. # [18:52] <khuey> jlebar: seems broken if it doesn't QI back
  1876. # [18:52] * khuey wonders how XPCWrappedJS works ...
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  1882. # [18:54] <jlebar> sorry, nsIMessageListener.
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  1884. # [18:54] <jlebar> Mook_as: ^
  1885. # [18:54] <Mook_as> ah, thanks
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  1907. # [19:01] <NeilAway> jlebar: xbl can also make that go wrong, since QI can change its idea of which interfaces it supports after the object is created
  1908. # [19:01] <jlebar> NeilAway: even to remove an interface?
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  1920. # [19:04] <jlebar> (That would be ridiculously evil)
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  1922. # [19:04] <dvander_> masayuki: ping
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  1924. # [19:05] <khuey> jlebar: if the binding gets removed, yeah
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  1926. # [19:05] <khuey> jlebar: everything about XBL is evil
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  1928. # [19:05] <jlebar> Well, I guess I'll just give up on these QI's then...
  1929. # [19:05] <jlebar> That's a bummer.
  1930. # [19:06] <lsblakk> ehsan++ (dll blocklist on 23.0.1 worked!)
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  1932. # [19:07] <@ehsan> lsblakk: hurray!
  1933. # [19:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/952b2b87cc07 - Andrew McCreight - Bug 889193 - Remove DOMRequest::mRooted. r=smaug a=bajaj
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  1936. # [19:09] <jcranmer> gah
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  1938. # [19:10] <jcranmer> why do standard library version writers have to be jerks and not give sane version numbers?
  1939. # [19:10] * jcranmer glares at libstdc++
  1940. # [19:10] <Mook_as> perhaps they used to be sane and then a million corner cases slowed turned them insane
  1941. # [19:11] <jcranmer> stlport gives nice version numbers
  1942. # [19:11] <jcranmer> libc++ and libstdc++ don't
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  1945. # [19:11] <Mook_as> (it is unclear whether the "they" refers to the version numbers or the authors)
  1946. # [19:11] <kats> firebot: seen dzbarsky
  1947. # [19:11] <firebot> dzbarsky was last seen 11 hours and 31 seconds ago, saying 'bbrittain: why's that?' in #interns.
  1948. # [19:11] <RyanVM|Sheriff> jimm-lunch: fyi, those last few mc failures on fx-team were prior to m-c being merged over with the fix for it
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  1954. # [19:14] <reuben> lizzard++
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  1960. # [19:18] <corey> I'm trying to diagnose an Android-only (ref)test failure that looks okay on my phone -- can I add debug prints that will show up in TBPL logs, or alternately can I try to better reproduce the reftest environment locally?
  1961. # [19:19] <corey> (Or possibly I should try testing on a 2.2 device?)
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  1963. # [19:19] <jlebar> kats: dzbarsky is on vacation with bz & family, should be back around soon.
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  1965. # [19:20] <jlebar> i.e., within a few days
  1966. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> Yeah
  1967. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> Both have shown activity today
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  1973. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, probably because pdf metadata doesn't tend to be correct?
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  1975. # [19:23] <reuben> gee, no privacy when you're a zbarsky! :P
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  1979. # [19:23] <khuey> reuben: well they have funny sounding names, so the NSA can spy on them ,right?
  1980. # [19:23] <Ms2ger> reuben, rather we focused on you? :)
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  1982. # [19:24] <reuben> that did not go as expected, abort, abort
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  2034. # [19:41] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af93c819008e - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 856424 - Unpref Components for content. r=bholley
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  2036. # [19:41] <@ehsan> vlad: donbe
  2037. # [19:41] <@ehsan> done, even
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  2060. # [19:48] <evilpie> it's ridiculous always try to make the discussion emotional by bringing children into the game
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  2062. # [19:48] <Ms2ger> But think of the children!
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  2065. # [19:49] <Archaeopteryx> and it doesn't protect terrorists?
  2066. # [19:50] <evilpie> don't give them idea! "without third party cookies we can't track terrorists"
  2067. # [19:50] <evilpie> *s
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  2071. # [19:51] <Archaeopteryx> the newspaper of my hometown uses server-side fingerprinting for restricting access to X articles per month. no cookies needed
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  2080. # [19:53] <sfink> khuey: I guess it would be in bad form to reply with a letter beginning, "While we honor and respect your integrity in staying bought by the ad industry to the point of ridicule, we suggest that you may wish to consider..."
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  2084. # [19:54] <jcranmer> say
  2085. # [19:54] <jcranmer> who has any idea how to fix this:
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  2087. # [19:55] <jcranmer> ../../dist/system_wrappers/cstddef:3:24: fatal error: cstddef: No such file or directory
  2088. # [19:55] <sfink> think of the child terrorists!
  2089. # [19:56] <jhammel> think of the child processes!
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  2091. # [19:56] <khuey> think of the child terrorists is good
  2092. # [19:57] <Ms2ger> "Anchor babies" is the term, I believe
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  2095. # [19:57] <khuey> jlebar: so that tagged pointer thing we were talking about last week
  2096. # [19:57] <khuey> jlebar: does that exist?
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  2103. # [20:01] <kats> jlebar: thanks. do you know how far from landing the separate-browser-into-another-process bug is?
  2104. # [20:01] <kats> will it be in 26?
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  2120. # [20:06] <jcranmer> byg 906783 if anyone wants to burn out their eyes with crazy code
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  2143. # [20:19] <NeilAway> jlebar: yeah, I had that happen to me at least once
  2144. # [20:20] <jlebar> kats: Probably not.
  2145. # [20:20] <jlebar> khuey: in my patch queue...
  2146. # [20:20] <kats> jlebar: ok, thanks
  2147. # [20:20] <kats> botond: ^
  2148. # [20:21] <jlebar> khuey: I can share it if you want, although it's probably not general-purpose enough for what you want.
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  2151. # [20:21] <khuey> jlebar: I ended up just using separate variables
  2152. # [20:21] <khuey> space doesn't really matter here
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  2160. # [20:23] <botond> kats: ok, guess we'll have to find a way to create an APZC (only) for that div then
  2161. # [20:23] <kats> yeah
  2162. # [20:24] <botond> kats: by the way, do you know what is the reason for the limitation that the process hierarchy depth is 2?
  2163. # [20:24] <NeilAway> where do the ionmonkey guys hang out?
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  2166. # [20:24] <kats> botond: not sure. jlebar might know
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  2173. # [20:25] <jlebar> botond: At very high level, some code wants to talk to the main process, and some code wants to talk to the parent process. But because for a long time those were the same process, we've conflated them.
  2174. # [20:26] <jlebar> botond: dzbarsky's patches are necessary to separate them out again.
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  2177. # [20:26] <botond> jlebar: but once they're separated out, why do content process need to be siblings of the browser process? why can't they be its children?
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  2180. # [20:27] <jlebar> botond: This is a B2G security thing
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  2183. # [20:27] <jlebar> botond: We don't want content processes to be able to fork and exec.
  2184. # [20:27] <bajaj> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888274 is now approved for landing
  2185. # [20:27] <jesup> bajaj: on it
  2186. # [20:27] <kats> NeilAway: #jsapi
  2187. # [20:27] <NeilAway> kats: ta
  2188. # [20:28] <bajaj> jesup: ty !
  2189. # [20:28] <botond> jlebar: isn't bringing about the creation of siblings kind of equivalent to forking/execing?
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  2201. # [20:31] <jesup> bajaj: Ok to land on CLOSED_TREE for this?
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  2203. # [20:31] <bajaj> not sure why beta would be closed, cc RyanVM|Sheriff
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  2205. # [20:31] <bajaj> RyanVM|Sheriff: ^^
  2206. # [20:31] <Ms2ger> bajaj, because everything is closed?
  2207. # [20:31] <bajaj> ah !
  2208. # [20:32] <Ms2ger> So, no, it's not okay
  2209. # [20:32] <Ms2ger> Our windows tests are broken
  2210. # [20:32] <jaws> gps: ping?
  2211. # [20:32] <RyanVM|Sheriff> bajaj: we had an infra burp
  2212. # [20:32] <RyanVM|Sheriff> bajaj: pretty sure it's cleared up now, but waiting for tests to go green
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  2214. # [20:33] <jaws> gps: do you know anything about a `which` module in python?
  2215. # [20:33] <bajaj> thanks RyanVM|Sheriff, jesup lets wait till the trees open up (should be soon enough)
  2216. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> jaws, he does :)
  2217. # [20:33] <jesup> bajaj: gotcha
  2218. # [20:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> Ms2ger: no more approvals, eh? :)
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  2220. # [20:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> bajaj: rather ^
  2221. # [20:33] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|Sheriff, none from me!
  2222. # [20:33] <jaws> Ms2ger: good, because i can't find anything on the internet about it
  2223. # [20:33] <jaws> and i can't run the PGO profile without it
  2224. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> Huh
  2225. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> jaws, ah, it's in-tree
  2226. # [20:34] <bajaj> RyanVM|Sheriff: jesup is helping land https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888274 which is needed before beta goes to build
  2227. # [20:34] <philor> Ms2ger doesn't approve of anything
  2228. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> /python/which
  2229. # [20:34] <jaws> Ms2ger: where? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/2884314
  2230. # [20:34] <jaws> ok
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  2232. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> philor, :)
  2233. # [20:34] <ktos> does anybody know how camino was embedding gecko? using xpcom directly or using wrapper?
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  2235. # [20:35] <Mook_as> ktos: pretty sure wrappers didn't exist. (I have no idea if they exist now.)
  2236. # [20:35] <ktos> btw should't it be called embedding xulrunner instead of gecko?
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  2239. # [20:37] <khuey> camino wasn't embedding xulrunner
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  2241. # [20:38] <bholley> RyanVM|Sheriff: can I push to try with CLOSED TREE if I'm just doing linux64?
  2242. # [20:39] <RyanVM|Sheriff> bholley: yeah, sorry
  2243. # [20:39] <RyanVM|Sheriff> shouldn't have closed the Try repos
  2244. # [20:39] <RyanVM|Sheriff> reopening them
  2245. # [20:39] <bholley> RyanVM|Sheriff: thanks
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  2247. # [20:39] <ktos> but if camino didn't use wrapper why it was finished?
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  2249. # [20:40] <ktos> according to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.embedding/c_NMcO-N8wo/discussion only wrappers are killed
  2250. # [20:40] <ktos> not xpcom api itself
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  2253. # [20:40] <ktos> so emedding is possible like before, just without wrappers, do I miss something?
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  2256. # [20:41] <Mook_as> ktos: pretty sure camino's also dead...
  2257. # [20:41] <Ms2ger> It'd better be
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  2259. # [20:42] <Ms2ger> It's been leaking exploits like a sieve for years
  2260. # [20:42] <ktos> camino's?
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  2264. # [20:42] <ktos> how it camino's may be dead if it's not on a list and is not maintained by mozilla?
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  2282. # [20:49] <Callek> bholley: sorry :(
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  2286. # [20:49] <Mook_as> ktos: camino's dead because its maintainers said so, see http://caminobrowser.org/
  2287. # [20:50] <Callek> bholley: I'm asking over what could have caused it to dissapear this fast on us
  2288. # [20:50] <ktos> but they said so because of the message I linked
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  2290. # [20:50] <Callek> SeaMonkey is alive!
  2291. # [20:51] <Callek> we remembered to change the water
  2292. # [20:51] <ktos> and there is said only about wrappers, so they had to use it in that case right?
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  2295. # [20:51] <ktos> Mook_as: ^
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  2315. # [20:56] <ktos> khuey: so they embedded just gecko? how is that even possible? isn't that just layout engine?
  2316. # [20:56] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: fyi, but 880384 is the latest webaudio crashtest to be timeout-happy on b2g
  2317. # [20:56] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26728774&tree=Mozilla-Central
  2318. # [20:56] <@ehsan> :(
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  2326. # [20:58] <khuey> ktos: they build gecko with --disable-xul iirc
  2327. # [20:59] <khuey> ktos: at which point you can't really call it *xul*runner :-P
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  2333. # [21:00] <ktos> khuey: ah, but they use package of components so-called xulrunner, right? :)
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  2337. # [21:01] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ehsan: I really think there's an underlying media issue at play here - wish we could find someone to own it
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  2341. # [21:01] <@ehsan> RyanVM|Sheriff: jwwang would be the person to ask I think
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  2354. # [21:09] <ktos> sheppy-offline: Callek btm_work dria you contributed to that page https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XULRunner/What_XULRunner_Provides
  2355. # [21:09] <ktos> tell me please where is NSView-based-widget (Mac OS X only) located
  2356. # [21:09] <gavin> biesi_: would you happen to recall anything that would be helpful in explaining https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906276#c3 ?
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  2358. # [21:09] <ktos> from embedding api section
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  2362. # [21:11] <gavin> biesi_: i.e. what is DONT_RETARGET supposed to mean exactly?
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  2409. # [21:32] <felipe> RyanVM|Sheriff: do you know if these failures are infra/expected? https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=fea4c97da3e2
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  2413. # [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> felipe: yep
  2414. # [21:33] <Callek> felipe: the ones like |Unable to install http://repos/python/packages/simplejson-2.1.3.tar.gz! | are indeed infra
  2415. # [21:33] <Callek> the Gu I have no idea, fwiw
  2416. # [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> and Gu are hidden for perma-fail
  2417. # [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> lol, we need to hide R5 on try
  2418. # [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> that's cedar-only for now
  2419. # [21:34] <felipe> RyanVM|Sheriff, Callek: cool, thanks!
  2420. # [21:34] <Callek> RyanVM|Sheriff: ooo right, I forgot we extended reftest to 5 chunks now ;-)
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  2436. # [21:42] <biesi_> gavin: commenteed
  2437. # [21:42] <biesi_> hope that helped
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  2478. # [21:57] <AmpNerdyZero> can someone help me with comment snob rules?
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  2481. # [21:58] <RyanVM|Sheriff> AmpNerdyZero: ?
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  2484. # [21:58] <AmpNerdyZero> the addon comment snob
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  2486. # [21:59] <RyanVM|Sheriff> AmpNerdyZero: just ask the question
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  2495. # [22:00] <AmpNerdyZero> that is my question
  2496. # [22:01] <AmpNerdyZero> I wanna add a site to comment snob's filter
  2497. # [22:01] <AmpNerdyZero> but I've been trying and I can't get it right
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  2501. # [22:02] <Mossop> AmpNerdyZero: I don't think anyone knows what a snob rule is
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  2503. # [22:03] <AmpNerdyZero> comment snob is a filtering addon for firefox
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  2507. # [22:04] <Mossop> AmpNerdyZero: Ok you might try asking in #addons but more likely you need to go to the add-ons support site. This isn't a good place to get your question answered.
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  2509. # [22:05] <vtonkovich> clear
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  2513. # [22:05] <jedp> Hoi! do we have any speakers of Dutch or its dialects in SF or MV?
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  2534. # [22:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/5954b0946800 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 885140 - Add back missing bits from the beta uplift. a=test-only
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  2555. # [22:26] <gavin> biesi_: thanks!
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  2560. # [22:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/cadb54f63c80 - EKR - Bug 888274: Emit RFC5389 STUN. Accept MAPPED-ADDRESS in response regardless of what we send. r=abr a=bajaj on a CLOSED TREE
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  2567. # [22:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: ping
  2568. # [22:33] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: pong
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  2576. # [22:36] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: is bug 862563 something that could be uplifted to the release branches, or is that going to be m-c only?
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  2581. # [22:38] <Optimizer> whom should I contact to get phonebook api key ?
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  2583. # [22:38] <Optimizer> bug 904803
  2584. # [22:39] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: definitely not
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  2588. # [22:40] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: i was afraid that was going to be your answer - so what's your preference for dealing with this on fx24? I don't really want to be starring bug 831404 for the next year on esr24
  2589. # [22:40] <seth> is anyone using ubuntu 13.10 right now?
  2590. # [22:40] <seth> i'd like to upgrade but i'm concerned that it might be way too unstable
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  2592. # [22:41] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: we can look at changing the test for the older channels if it is an issue
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  2598. # [22:42] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: it's top 10 on beta, so I would consider it an issue
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  2604. # [22:43] <nbp> Yoda's nightmare: treestatus.mozilla.org « Do or do not, there is no Try. »
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  2609. # [22:44] <botond> kats: Is APZC[TM]::CancelDefaultPanZoom() still used?
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  2622. # [22:49] <kats> botond: at the moment it's probably not. but we need to keep it to hook it up to touch events. i.e. touch events should be able to cancel the default pan-zoom
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  2628. # [22:50] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: i'm actually feeling crazy enough to try to figure out on Try when the winxp xpcshell and "child process still alive" errors went away to see about the feasibility of backporting them
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  2655. # [23:02] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> hi need help learning xml
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  2658. # [23:02] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> any graphical lessons like codecademy.com for xml?
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  2666. # [23:05] <mbrubeck> "xml" is kind of a broad topic... do you have a specific goal (e.g. writing generic tools to consume XML, generic tools to produce XML, tools to deal with a specific XML format)?
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  2668. # [23:06] <mbrubeck> http://www.diveinto.org/python3/xml.html has a "mini crash course" in XML
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  2670. # [23:06] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> mbruveck: making a addon
  2671. # [23:06] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> oops mbrubeck
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  2675. # [23:07] <Optimizer> when do you need xml while making an addon ?
  2676. # [23:07] <mbrubeck> Waka_Flocka_Flame: How does your add-on use XML? Are you writing XUL or XBL? Or maybe an install.rdf file?
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  2678. # [23:07] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> i have no idea
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  2680. # [23:07] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> all i have is css and html knowledge
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  2682. # [23:08] <Optimizer> then my friend you need to first learn addon development :)
  2683. # [23:08] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> and want to bring the alltabs back
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  2688. # [23:09] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> so addon development is....
  2689. # [23:09] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> js? html?
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  2691. # [23:10] <anton> do we have anything like chrome's telemetry? http://www.chromium.org/developers/telemetry
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  2693. # [23:10] <@ehsan> tanvi: hi
  2694. # [23:11] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> guess i shall find myself
  2695. # [23:11] <dholbert> Waka_Flocka_Flame, looks like #extdev is the channel about addon development
  2696. # [23:11] <tanvi> ehsan: can you provide some context on bug 906803 and the push to try
  2697. # [23:11] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> alright
  2698. # [23:11] <dholbert> Waka_Flocka_Flame, but yes, I think you can write an addon with basically just JS/HTML/CSS knowledge
  2699. # [23:11] <mwu> anton: https://metrics.mozilla.com
  2700. # [23:12] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> oh ok
  2701. # [23:12] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> thanks
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  2703. # [23:12] <dholbert> (and anything else, you can stumble through and/or follow documentation)
  2704. # [23:12] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> ill need to learn javascript
  2705. # [23:12] <mwu> anton: see also https://wiki.mozilla.org/Telemetry
  2706. # [23:12] <@ehsan> tanvi: yes, we're trying to bring up unit tests for win64 builds, and I filed some bugs for tests that are failing there
  2707. # [23:12] <@ehsan> tanvi: I assigned that bug to you since you initially wrote the test
  2708. # [23:12] <@ehsan> do you know how to do a win64 build?
  2709. # [23:13] <tanvi> ehsan: so this is mozilla-central on win64
  2710. # [23:13] <@ehsan> yes
  2711. # [23:13] <marco> is mach still busted?
  2712. # [23:13] <tanvi> ehsan: no, and i dont have vmware set up
  2713. # [23:13] <@ehsan> tanvi: the Date branch just syncs with m-c (well, m-i as of this morning)
  2714. # [23:13] <@ehsan> tanvi: do you have a windows box?
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  2716. # [23:13] <tanvi> ehsan: no
  2717. # [23:13] <@ehsan> hmm
  2718. # [23:13] <tanvi> linux and mac
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  2720. # [23:13] <tanvi> i thought we didn tsupport win 64?
  2721. # [23:13] <@ehsan> can you suggest somebody else who is familiar with this code perhaps?
  2722. # [23:14] <tanvi> we were only support 32 bit.
  2723. # [23:14] <@ehsan> tanvi: we're going to add support for it
  2724. # [23:14] <tanvi> ah okay
  2725. # [23:14] <mbrubeck> marco: busted how?
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  2728. # [23:14] <tanvi> ehsan: smaug. not sure if he has windows either though
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  2730. # [23:15] <marco> mbrubeck: someone suggested me mach was currently busted, I guess the tip wasn't correct
  2731. # [23:15] <anton> mwu: chrome telemetry is different though. it is more of a framework that other devs can use to benchmark their own apps
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  2733. # [23:15] <mwu> anton: #perf would be a good channel to discuss this (just mentioning what I know - I don't work on telemetry)
  2734. # [23:15] <@ehsan> smaug: do you have a windows box?
  2735. # [23:15] <@smaug> no
  2736. # [23:16] <mbrubeck> marco: I'm not aware of any current problems, but I just got back from vacation... If you find a bug, please file it. :)
  2737. # [23:16] <@ehsan> :(
  2738. # [23:16] <@ehsan> tanvi: is there anybody else familiar with this code?
  2739. # [23:16] <tanvi> ehsan: the test is to make sure navigation from https to http still works with the mixed content blocker. for example, opening a new tab with an http link from an https page
  2740. # [23:16] <mbrubeck> (mach is not often "broken" full stop, but sometimes specific commands break in specific configurations)
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  2745. # [23:17] <@ehsan> tanvi: my goal is to find somebody who knows the code so that they don't have to spend time to learn the code as they're debugging this...
  2746. # [23:17] <@smaug> ehsan: tanvi: some tryserver debugging might be enough
  2747. # [23:17] <@ehsan> yeah could be
  2748. # [23:17] <tanvi> ehsan: or if an https frame in an https page tries to navigate to http, we want to invoke the blocker
  2749. # [23:17] <taras> mwu: different kind of telemetry :)
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  2751. # [23:17] <@smaug> I'd assume it is a bug in the test
  2752. # [23:17] <mwu> taras: sounds like it
  2753. # [23:17] <@smaug> some race
  2754. # [23:17] <tanvi> ehsan: smaug and i are really the only ones that know this test
  2755. # [23:17] <@ehsan> smaug: that's very likely
  2756. # [23:18] <@ehsan> alright
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  2759. # [23:18] <@ehsan> smaug: do you mind doing some try server debugging for this?
  2760. # [23:18] <tanvi> ehsan: briansmith and ckerscb know some of the mixed content code
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  2762. # [23:18] <@smaug> ehsan: ok, let me try to find some time tomorrow
  2763. # [23:18] <tanvi> ehsan: the try server logs just show that the test timed out
  2764. # [23:18] <@ehsan> sounds good! thanks
  2765. # [23:18] <@smaug> tanvi: that often means some race
  2766. # [23:19] <@ehsan> yeah you can usually narrow that down by adding debugging dumps etc
  2767. # [23:19] * @smaug spent quite some time fixing racy tests earlier this summer ;)
  2768. # [23:19] <tanvi> ah, you mean adding debug code and sending the patch to try
  2769. # [23:19] <@ehsan> yep
  2770. # [23:19] <@smaug> yup
  2771. # [23:19] <tanvi> okay, sounds good. smaug, let me know if you need help tomorrow
  2772. # [23:19] <tanvi> smaug: this was that really complicated grandchild frame test
  2773. # [23:19] <tanvi> that i sent you a diagram of
  2774. # [23:19] <@smaug> yeah
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  2776. # [23:20] * @smaug wants "add this bug to my todo list" flag to bugzilla
  2777. # [23:20] <@smaug> glob|away: ^
  2778. # [23:20] <@ehsan> smaug: bugzilla might OOM if we did that ;)
  2779. # [23:21] <@smaug> needinfo: <yourself> is a bit hackish
  2780. # [23:21] <mbrubeck> smaug: I use status:NEW assignee:mbrubeck
  2781. # [23:21] <mbrubeck> (as opposed to ASSIGNED which means I've actually started it)
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  2785. # [23:23] <mwargers> I'm getting this build error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2884946
  2786. # [23:23] <sicking> reuben: ping
  2787. # [23:23] <mwargers> anyone has an idea why I get this?
  2788. # [23:23] <@smaug> mbrubeck: needinfo shows up in the "my requests"
  2789. # [23:24] <@smaug> I guess I could use "My Dashboard"
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  2791. # [23:24] <philor> mwargers: update clang
  2792. # [23:24] <gaston> jcranmer: yes?
  2793. # [23:24] <mwargers> philor, ok, thanks
  2794. # [23:24] <philor> mwargers: bug 904108
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  2808. # [23:26] <jcranmer> gaston: can you check if the mfbt changes in bug 906783 would break BSD?
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  2812. # [23:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c7f5065c808c - David Anderson - Initialize nsKeyEvent::mNativeKeyEvent to prevent crashes on multi-process (bug 906237, r=smichaud).
  2813. # [23:28] <gaston> jcranmer: sure, just got back from holidays so i have a bit of stuff to catchup, but will put it on my todo for tmrw.. can you feedback? me so i dont forget it ?
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  2815. # [23:28] <jcranmer> I can do that
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  2817. # [23:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e2c977148d7a - Luke Wagner - Bug 905850 - Vector should not be copyable (r=terrence)
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  2823. # [23:31] <botond> kats: In https://staktrace.com/spout/entry.php?id=801, it says: "If take a regular page and pinch-zoom it to 2x, what actually happens on the layout side is that the presShell resolution is set to 2x, the CSS transform on the page is updated to be 0.5x, and the OMTC transform is again 2x.". Why is it done like that? Specifically, why aren't the presShell resolution and the CSS transform each left at 1?
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  2828. # [23:33] <kats> botond: well the presShell resolution needs to be 2x for the layer to actually be drawn at a higher density
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  2830. # [23:34] <kats> we could in theory leave the CSS transform and OMTC transform at 1 and it should function the same, but i think "for historical reasons" is why it ended up the way it is now
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  2832. # [23:35] <botond> kats: Hmm. So the OMTC transform will remain at 2x even after Gecko renders the higher-resolution version? I thought OMTC transforms were a temporary thing that were only in play until rendering at the higher res was complete.
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  2836. # [23:37] <kats> botond: it depends how you define it. in the code it will be 2x. from a high-level point of view it's better to not include the intermediate untransformation because it is logically an implementation detail
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  2839. # [23:39] <botond> kats: Does the transform applied by the GPU include the CSS transform as well? (If so, then that makes sense, since the CSS and OMTC transforms cancel out.)
  2840. # [23:39] <kats> yes it does
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  2842. # [23:40] <botond> kats: I see. (Then what I was thinking of as the OMTC transform is really the product of the CSS and OMTC transforms.) Makes sense, thanks!
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