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# [00:06] <fitzgen> how do we add new xpcshell test dirs now? testing/xpcshell/xpcshell.ini doesn't exist anymore, so this is out of date: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Writing_xpcshell-based_unit_tests#Adding_your_tests_to_the_xpcshell_manifest
# [00:06] <fitzgen> chmanchester: ^ ?
# [00:07] <dougt> ted: LIES!
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# [00:09] <fitzgen> gps: ^^ ?
# [00:09] <chmanchester> fitzgen: xpcshell.ini is generated now, I found it in $OBJDIR/_tests/xpcshell
# [00:10] <fitzgen> chmanchester: ah ok, will rebuild the whole tree
# [00:10] <fitzgen> thanks
# [00:10] <chmanchester> fitzgen: I'm guessing it's generated on a match against 'xpcshell.ini'. Maybe try adding that to a directory and doing 'mach build testing/xpcshell'
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# [00:12] <chmanchester> fitzgen: this doesn't seem to be what I expected... I would try over in #ateam
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# [00:13] <fitzgen> chmanchester: hrm alright, will do if my current ./mach build doesn't make the tests visible
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# [00:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/716d1f856bdf - Bill McCloskey - Bug 888898 - Fix rooting in setObjectMetadataCallback (r=bhackett)
# [00:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3b1cf3dd025e - Bill McCloskey - Bug 899222 - Make about:home work via message passing (r=felipe).
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# [00:42] <NeilAway> gavin: in 906163#5 you mention addons but what if someone wanted to add autocomplete to a textbox somewhere in toolkit?
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# [00:42] <gps> fitzgen: add XPCSHELL_TESTS_MANIFESTS to a moz.build file with a link to the .ini manifest file
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# [00:42] <fitzgen> gps: thanks!
# [00:42] <gps> i'll update the mdn page
# [00:43] <gavin> NeilAway: I was specifcally replying to jorge's comment about addon author outreach
# [00:43] <gavin> NeilAway: the same problem exists for chrome/content, sure, and so we should just fix that bug
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# [00:54] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f9bad5e3e7ba - Ralph Giles - Bug 865253 - Part 4: Stop OscillatorNodes on context shutdown. r=ehsan
# [00:54] <@ehsan> rillian: \o/
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# [00:55] <@roc> hurrah
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# [00:55] <rillian> ehsan, roc: thanks!
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# [01:03] <sicking> reuben: ping
# [01:03] <reuben> sicking: pong
# [01:03] <sicking> reuben: hey!
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# [01:03] <sicking> reuben: so i'm reviewing bug 904298 and it's not really looking right
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# [01:04] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8dc4c45cfda3 - Jim Blandy - Bug 905437: Make it possible for 'mach xpcshell-test' to run xpcshell under GDB. r=ted
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# [01:05] <reuben> sicking: what is up?
# [01:05] <sicking> reuben: in patch 2, the first thing that ContentParent::RecvShowAlertNotification should do is to verify that the principal is good
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# [01:05] <sicking> reuben: i.e. that the child process has the right to run that principal. Otherwise the app process can simply lie about its appid
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# [01:06] <reuben> sicking: are you saying verifying the principal and checking permissions should be two separate things, or that what CheckPermission is doing is *not* verifying the principal?
# [01:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/57ee0ba35de6 - Dan Minor - Bug 858622 - Make jit-tests runnable on mobile;r=terrence
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# [01:07] <sicking> reuben: as far as i can tell, you are not verifying the principal anywhere?
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# [01:07] <sicking> reuben: the thing we are trying to protect against is a hacked child process, right?
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# [01:07] <sicking> reuben: a hacked child process can simply create a principal with any appid and send to the parent
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# [01:08] <sicking> reuben: so it's important that we check that the principal coming from the child is one that the child possibly could contain
# [01:09] <sicking> reuben: there's two things we can check. 1. That the appid of the principal matches the appid that's running in that childprocess
# [01:09] <sicking> 2. that if the childprocess is a browserprocess, that the principal has the browserElement flag set to true
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# [01:09] <sicking> if either of those things doesn't match, we know that the child has been hacked and is lying about who it is
# [01:09] <sicking> and so we should kill the child process
# [01:10] <sicking> reuben: makes sense?
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# [01:11] <reuben> sicking: yep. I was under the impression that checking if the passed appId is recognized by the parent was enough
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# [01:12] <sicking> reuben: not at all. We don't want a process that we started to run app A to claim to be doing things for app B
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# [01:13] <NeilAway> who knows about elfhack?
# [01:14] <@roc> glandium
# [01:14] <sicking> reuben: so we have two main problems in the current code
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# [01:15] <glandium> yes?
# [01:15] <reuben> sicking: so we can trust the TabParent's TabContext, right? that's the information to check against
# [01:16] <sicking> reuben: iirc, yes
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# [01:17] <sicking> reuben: i'm looking throught the code to try to find examples of where things are good
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# [01:33] <sicking> reuben: ugh, all of these security checks are such a mess
# [01:34] <fabrice> sicking: yes... we need a bit of refactoring there
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# [01:56] <reuben> sicking: I'll work with what I've got and ask for feedback. I should have talked to you after my conversation with bent to figure out the details
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# [01:56] <sicking> reuben: ok. i'll braindump what I have so far
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# [01:57] <sicking> reuben: first thing we should do is to send a principal with all security-sensitive requests from the child to the parent
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# [01:58] <sicking> reuben: and the first thing the parent should do is to verify that the child actually is allowed to use that principal. And immediately kill the child if it is not permitted to use that principal
# [01:58] <reuben> sicking: one thing that is not entirely clear to me and I'll need to check is how all of this works on top of dzbarsky's rework of PBrowser
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# [01:58] <sicking> reuben: that i do not know. I suspect it's pretty unrelated, but i'm not sure
# [01:58] <reuben> my understanding is that we're moving away from using PBrowser to do security checks
# [01:58] <sicking> gaaaah!
# [01:59] <reuben> because, you know, now the tab's BrowserParent is in the browser app, in a child process
# [02:00] <reuben> so if you pass it to ContentParent the PBrowserChild is meaningless
# [02:00] <sicking> hmm.. ok
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# [02:00] <sicking> i guess that's fine actually
# [02:01] <sicking> reuben: so what we need is a function which takes a PContent and a nsIPrincipal. Where the principal was passed to use from something running in that PContent
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# [02:01] <sicking> reuben: and then we should check if that principal possibly could be legal for that PContent. If it isn't, kill the batman
# [02:02] <reuben> sounds simple
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# [02:02] <reuben> sicking: taht means we lose the inBrowserElement flag, no?
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# [02:02] <reuben> lose a way to validate it
# [02:02] <sicking> reuben: no
# [02:02] <sicking> reuben: we should know for a PContent if we're running only inbrowsercontent "stuff" or not
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# [02:04] <reuben> sicking: sounds good!
# [02:04] <sicking> reuben: do note that if a PContent contains non-inbrowser content, then it also has permission to run inbrowser content. But if a PContent contains just inbrowser content, then it can not run non-inbrowser content
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# [02:05] <sicking> reuben: ok, so step 1a) Make sure we always pass a principal from child to parent 1b) Make sure that we verify that that principal is valid for that PContent
# [02:06] <reuben> sicking: uh… I understand what you meant, but I don't understand how to differentiate between two "this PContent has both non-inbrowser and inbrowser content" scenarios
# [02:06] <sicking> step 1c) use principal to do security check (rather than the current AssertAppProcess etc mess)
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# [02:07] <sicking> reuben: currently we can check on the TabParent if it has only browsercontent or not: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/ipc/AppProcessChecker.cpp#38
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# [02:08] <sicking> reuben: I don't know how that will work in the new world, I'm sure Justin has a plan
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# [02:09] <reuben> oh, the PBrowser. ok
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# [02:11] <sicking> reuben: for 1c) we probably need a function which does similar stuff as AssertAppProcess, in that it does a security check and then kills the child if needed. But the new function should take an nsIPrincipal, a PContent (as to enable killing) and a permission-string
# [02:11] <reuben> yep
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# [02:11] <sicking> reuben: that function might even be able to do handle both 1b and 1c. Though I think we should have a separate function for 1b still
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# [02:12] <reuben> sicking: why?
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# [02:14] <sicking> reuben: i suspect we'll need it. In general we should be doing security checks using nsIPrincipals rather than PContent/PBrowser/MessageManagers/FrameLoaders/whatever. But we can only do that once we've checked that an nsIPrincipal isn't a lie. So that "nsIPrincipal isn't a lie" piece is likely to be central to moving to this model.
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# [02:14] <sicking> reuben: and I want to make it easy to move to this model. The fact that we've decided not to trust nsIPrincipals from the child is what got us into the current mess
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# [02:15] <sicking> reuben: the step 2 thing is something entirely different, and is likely more a performance thing than anything else. Which is to get rid of the current double-ipc-dance.
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# [02:15] <sicking> reuben: oh, oh, necko will need the "check that this principal can come from that childprocess" function for sure
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# [02:17] <reuben> sicking: aaah, I see what you mean. ideally consumers will never have to check if the principal is truthful
# [02:17] <sicking> reuben: right, we do that right off the bat as a separate thing
# [02:17] <sicking> reuben: i think in many cases we'll be able to combine "check permissions" with "check that the principal is good". But we can do that where it looks to make sense
# [02:18] <reuben> sicking: awesome, that's kinda what I imagined when I read past comments about principal validation, but because we're starting with only the web-exposed stuff wasn't sure how to get there
# [02:18] <sicking> reuben: what do you mean by "starting with web exposed stuff"?
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# [02:20] <reuben> sicking: geolocation and desktop-notifications are the only two permissions that can be granted to non-privileged web content so far
# [02:20] <fabrice> reuben: alarms also
# [02:20] <sicking> and push
# [02:21] <sicking> and storage
# [02:21] <reuben> sicking: I was planning to convert those things first
# [02:22] <sicking> reuben: ah, to the new model?
# [02:22] <reuben> sicking: yes
# [02:22] <sicking> makes sense
# [02:22] <reuben> hmm, I guess this spreadsheet really is only for 1.0? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Akyz_Bqjgf5pdENVekxYRjBTX0dCXzItMnRyUU1RQ0E#gid=0
# [02:22] <reuben> do we have an up-to-date version of something like that/
# [02:22] <sicking> reuben: i think we're trying to keep that up-to-date
# [02:22] <sicking> reuben: what's missing? (push seems to be)
# [02:23] <reuben> sicking: storage and alarms say DENY_ACTION for web content
# [02:24] <sicking> reuben: oh, right you are, that is correct. Storage and alarms is not exposed to web content
# [02:24] <sicking> reuben: i'm with you now
# [02:24] <sicking> reuben: web content exposed stuff is the main problem here
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# [02:29] <fabrice> reuben: the source of truth is at https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/apps/src/PermissionsTable.jsm
# [02:29] <fabrice> reuben: alarms are ALLOW for web content
# [02:30] <fabrice> and a few others including some audio channels
# [02:31] <reuben> fabrice: I thought "app" and "web content" were two different things
# [02:31] <fabrice> reuben: nope, just bad naming
# [02:31] <sicking> fabrice: wait, no
# [02:31] <sicking> fabrice: alarms are not permitted to actual *web content*
# [02:31] <reuben> fabrice: so when the spreadsheet shows a difference between installed app and normal web content?…
# [02:32] <sicking> fabrice: i.e. a webpage opened by the browser can't use the alarms API
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# [02:32] <fabrice> sicking: ha. Only to unprivileged web apps?
# [02:32] <reuben> i.e. audio channel, notifications, fmradio…
# [02:32] <sicking> fabrice: a hosted app can use alarms though
# [02:32] <sicking> fabrice: and an unsigned packaged app can
# [02:32] <sicking> fabrice: but not a webpage
# [02:32] <fabrice> ok. Not sure we should make the distinction
# [02:33] <sicking> fabrice: we should for things that can use system resources and annoy the user
# [02:33] <reuben> "storage" clearly should distinguish between installed and not
# [02:33] <sicking> fabrice: you don't want a random "driveby" webpage to be able to permanently store 1GB of data on your disk
# [02:33] <fabrice> indexedDB uses my previous internal storage!
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# [02:34] <sicking> fabrice: we're moving IDB to using "temporary" storage. Which means that it's limited in size. And that it uses LRU eviction
# [02:34] <fabrice> oh... LRU eviction of objects?
# [02:34] <sicking> fabrice: our current state for IDB was intended to be very temporary, but took longer than intended to fix
# [02:34] <sicking> fabrice: of databases
# [02:35] <reuben> sicking: so my worry with separating principal validation from permission checking API-wise is that people will do only the latter (like they've been doing so far). is it OK if for now checking the permission validates the principal as well?
# [02:36] <reuben> when we move to the new model and validation is implicit we can keep the same API
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# [02:36] <sicking> reuben: create a function that validates the principal. Then create a function which does permission checking and which calls the former function
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# [02:37] <sicking> ok, gotta take off, i hope this was helpful
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# [03:24] <jlebar> Is anyone around who knows c++?
# [03:24] <jlebar> jcranmer, maybe?
# [03:24] <jlebar> I'm trying to figure out how best to convert a MoveRef<T> to a MoveRef<U>, where |T : public U|
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# [03:25] <jlebar> I can make a conversion operator or non-explicit one-arg constructor.
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# [03:26] <jlebar> Something like: |template<class U> MoveRef(MoveRef<U> other) : pointer(static_cast<T*>(other.pointer)|
# [03:26] <jlebar> But the problem is that the compiler can't disambiguate between this guy and the implicit T& conversion on MoveRef<T>.
# [03:26] <jlebar> (Hm, I may have flipped my U's and T's in the code above)
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# [03:33] <derf> jlebar: Thank you for my daily reminder of why I avoid C++ as much as possible.
# [03:34] <jlebar> derf: you of all people enjoy hard problems.
# [03:34] <derf> I like them to have some payoff, however!
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# [03:36] <mbrubeck> luke: Looks like you and/or bhackett scored a nice win on our responsiveness benchmark: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.tree-management/grpNc9a4tZ8/discussion
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# [03:39] <tbsaunde> jlebar: looks like if you fixed bug 896100 rval references would more or less just work, http://paste.debian.net/27274/ compiles for me with g++ 4.8
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# [03:42] <jlebar> tbsaunde: indeed.
# [03:42] <philor> and the total is... CLOSED TREE
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# [03:47] <philor> so, Windows hates dminor, and probably everyone, or at least everyone who doesn't enjoy undefined variables, will be hating stully
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# [03:49] <philor> and, sunfish and mcmanus developed a sudden aversion to putting the right part of the commit message in the first line?
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# [04:13] <darktrojan> has anyone made a bash-completion file for mach?
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# [04:15] <gps> darktrojan: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/mach#Enable_tab_completion
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# [04:15] <darktrojan> ah, nice
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# [04:18] <darktrojan> I like it when people save me the effort of doing stuff
# [04:18] <gps> darktrojan: that's pretty much the entire point of mach: collect all the random commands that make people productive
# [04:18] <darktrojan> :)
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# [04:27] <tbsaunde> Unfocused: no no its all about pksh
# [04:28] <Unfocused> heh
# [04:28] <darktrojan> what about o,sh..?
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# [04:29] <darktrojan> if only we could get people to stop name directories similarly, tab completions would be great
# [04:31] <BenWa> Anyone seen 'no member named 'operator=' in 'JS::Value'' while building on mac?
# [04:31] <abr> BenWa: update to clang 4.2
# [04:31] <abr> BenWa: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=905876
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# [04:33] <BenWa> ty
# [04:33] <abr> np
# [04:33] <abr> The more directly relevant bug is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904108 but the summary in Bug 905876 is reall where things are ending up.
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# [04:55] <@roc> philor: assuming its bad RAM, buffers can move around
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# [04:58] <philor> roc: yeah, my explanation for the usual same-spot-multiple-tests thing is a handwaving "there's, um, something about reusing canvases" so it's not like I actually understand that, either :)
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# [05:11] <darktrojan> who knows about drawing native checkboxes?
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# [05:15] <Callek> darktrojan: step 1 get a pen, step two get a piece of paper, step 3 use pen to draw a box, step 4 (optional) use pen to check the box
# [05:15] <Callek> [/troll]
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# [05:15] <darktrojan> I am part native too
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# [05:17] <Callek> darktrojan: yea I'm assuming you were born on earth therefore are certainly a native earthling :-) "A person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not."
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# [05:17] <darktrojan> heh, I didn't specify where, did I
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# [05:19] <philor> okay, who touched AboutHomeUtils.jsm?
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# [05:19] <@roc> darktrojan: me! me!
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# [05:20] <darktrojan> want to fix bug 669507 for me, roc?
# [05:20] <evilpie> when are the nightlies for tomorrow build?
# [05:21] <@roc> I'm happy to help you fix it
# [05:22] <darktrojan> does it mean venturing into the dark world of C++ ?
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# [05:22] <glob> smaug, while you're not here, enable "bug tagging" via user prefs for a "my todo list" feature
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# [05:23] <@roc> darktrojan: yep
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# [05:24] <philor> evilpie: depends on the branch, but for m-c like you mean, at 3am it looks for the most recent push which has successfully built on all the platforms that build nightlies
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# [05:25] <evilpie> I see, so I have some time to try test
# [05:25] <philor> so your deadline is "however long before 3am it's going to take you to get a non-red and completed build on every platform"
# [05:25] <darktrojan> I don't actually have a machine capable of building the tree these days, roc :)
# [05:25] <philor> unless you mean b2g nightlies, which pick their own thing in their own way
# [05:25] <evilpie> b2g hehehehehe
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# [05:26] <evilpie> no shouldn't concern me I hope
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# [05:27] <@roc> darktrojan: no problem, come into the office and use one of ours.
# [05:27] <philor> b2g looks like it's "whatever's tip at 4am"
# [05:28] <evilpie> on which branch?
# [05:29] <evilpie> damn that means bug 897060 is not going to make it :(
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# [05:29] <philor> m-c
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# [05:32] <philor> though I'd be willing to point instead at whoever's fault it is that renaming a JS module requires clobbering Mac
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# [05:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a82f3a08ff3a - Dave Camp - Bug 901644 - Allow mach build paths to be specified relative to $srcdir; r=gps
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# [06:00] <avih> roc: what do you think of bug 837489? any chance you could post something to calm the users there?
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# [06:17] <RattyAway> I think Bug 495578 should either be closed or moved out of Fennec Graveyard
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# [06:38] <@roc> avih: I commented. It's fundamentally a tough problem.
# [06:38] <maxtor> are user questions welcomed here? i think you have the right brain
# [06:38] <avih> roc: yeah, i figured there's no easy approach.
# [06:38] <avih> thx.
# [06:38] <@roc> fundamentally AMD graphics drivers just suck :-(
# [06:39] <avih> roc: do we still suspect some process injection?
# [06:39] <@roc> if anything, bug 772330 and its avatars are even worse than bug 837489.
# [06:39] <@roc> for bug 837489 I suspect some basic rendering bug in the AMD driver
# [06:40] <@roc> for bug 772330 I suspect some horrible insane tampering with Firefox from the AMD driver
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# [06:45] <avih> roc: yeah. that's very unfortunate imo, especially the intermittent aspect of it. as i noted on 772330 some time ago, i keep layers.acceleration.force-enabled=true for a long time on a blacklisted system, and so far it's been good for me.
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# [06:48] <@roc> I just sent an email to Bob and Brendan to see if they can help.
# [06:48] <@roc> without a lifeline from AMD I'm not sure what we can do.
# [06:49] <@roc> I have reached out to AMD developers before with no results whatsoever.
# [06:49] <avih> yeah, i followed both that bug and 840161...
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# [06:51] <maxtor> anyway to make firefox not send any cookies when the typed URL in the address bar matches some blacklisted entry?
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# [07:05] <jwilde> maxtor: yup! http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-websites-storing-site-preferences#w_block-cookies-for-a-single-site
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# [07:17] <bajaj> jaws: help with review https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=905084 please :)
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# [07:19] <bajaj> thank you jaws
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# [07:30] <glob> njn, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi "Show gravatar images when viewing bugs"
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# [07:31] <glob> njn, nope
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# [07:32] <glob> XD
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# [07:41] <sfink> hm... if you're already selecting using shift-up/down arrow, it still seems to extend the selection. Except it puts the selected portion just off the top of the screen when doing shift-pgdn, so you can't tell.
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# [07:48] <darktrojan> then you've got a whole bunch of new problems
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# [07:50] <tessarakt2> Thunderbird doesn't have any problems whatsoever
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# [07:51] <avih> tn: on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906811#c1 you mean that we may "lose that (questionable) perf gain" after applying this patch if a tab starts at the bg and turns fg before 2s from load?
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# [07:52] <tn> avih, yeah
# [07:53] <avih> tn: agreed.
# [07:53] <darktrojan> was that sarcasm tessarakt2 ?
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# [07:54] <tn> avih, favor perf seems to give us a 1-2% win on tp (ie removing it regresses b 1-2%) but is a big tp responsiveness win (hard to quantify because it has very high variance)
# [07:55] <avih> tn: 1-2% sounds like a great price for the responsiveness win we think it bring, but can we quantify this win at all?
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# [07:56] <avih> tn: also, are you basing these estimations on the one try build and the compare talos link you posted at the original bug?
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# [07:59] <avih> tn: you wanna take bug 880036? i took it before i knew it's the favor perf thingy, and while removing this system is easy, i'm not sure i'll be able to handle potential regressions from it.
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# [08:00] <tn> avih, 1758 +/- 2767 before, 280 +/- 1111, i have no idea what units those are or what they represent though
# [08:00] <tn> avih, no, i did a much more thorough talos comparison with many talos runs
# [08:01] <avih> ah, great to hear. wtf does 280 +- 1000 mean???
# [08:01] <avih> (it just sounds weird)
# [08:01] <tn> avih, the first number is the mean the second number is the std dev maybe? not sure
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# [08:01] <avih> yeah, i know what these numbers are :) just 280 average with 1000 stddev is.. weird :)
# [08:01] <tn> avih, bug 880036 is not really about the favor perf stuff, that's just one piece, i don't plan on tackling the bigger picture right now
# [08:02] <tn> avih, yeah, its a weird result, but i triggered enough runs to have some confidence in it
# [08:02] <avih> tn: ok, so do you want to take the favor perf side of it and spin it off into a new bug?
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# [08:03] <avih> tn: also, 1760 with wild stddev to 280 (i guess all are ms), actually fits the 2000ms hang you discovered.
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# [08:04] <tn> avih, i want to remove favor perf for bg tabs first, see how that goes, then maybe kill it more
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# [08:04] <avih> tn: very cool.
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# [08:05] <tn> avih, there is another problem though and that is that even in favor perf mode we are not supposed to starve os events for more than 150 ms (have to check the number), so there are more things going wrong here
# [08:05] <avih> tn: i just bumped into this very accidentally, i worked on some talos tests in stress mode, and the thing just hanged for the entire test, yet it spawned results as if all is great.. this was weird at the time... but glad i bumped into it.
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# [08:06] <avih> tn: yeah. the less pleasant part is that apparently no one recalls the original system at all other than very vaguely..
# [08:07] <tn> avih, yeah, sometimes you find the oddest things when you least expect.
# [08:07] <avih> aye
# [08:08] <tn> avih, there is old code like that around that people are afraid of touching because of that, sometimes we should be brave, sometimes we are reminded that they knew what they were doing back then
# [08:08] <avih> heh
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# [08:11] <avih> tn: you got any link to the "much more thorough talos comparison"?
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# [08:11] <tn> avih, http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/index.html?oldRevs=4134d0810e32&newRev=b7637f90cdf8&submit=true
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# [08:13] <avih> tn: i take your word that this includes many runs. could someone deduce it from looking at this url/page without getting this info externally?
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# [08:14] <tn> avih, i wanted to get that data myself from the page but couldn't figure out how. but if one really wanted to one could take the revs in the url and look at them on the tryserver on tbpl, that's the best i've come up with so far
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# [08:16] <avih> tn: right, thx. heh, it seems talos compare didn't believe the 1760->280 change is real (didn't color it green) :)
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# [08:19] <avih> tn: ah. if you hover the "details" link on one of the test/platform, you'd see that it includes many tests and truncated. if you click that link, it comes out empty, but you could see all the runs
# [08:19] <avih> (at the url)
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# [08:20] <tn> avih, the variance was probably too high to color it green
# [08:20] <avih> yeah
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# [08:21] <avih> though from a human perspective, there's clearly an improvement, and even variance is almost halved
# [08:21] <philor> the Variation column is the other place you can see that it's multiple retriggers
# [08:21] <avih> more than halved
# [08:21] <avih> philor: how? just deduce it from the high variance?
# [08:22] <philor> avih: from non-zero, a "one set of runs on the old and one set of runs on the new" looks like http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/index.html?oldRevs=5c2c1bf76f6a&newRev=c21468186d3d&submit=true
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# [08:23] <philor> won't tell you how many, but it will tell you one versus more than one
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# [08:23] <avih> ah.
# [08:23] <avih> but that could be 2 or 100 and you won't know.
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# [08:23] <avih> but the details link has all the tests ids
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# [08:23] <avih> runs* ids
# [08:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7be02f09275c - Mike Hommey - Bug 905938 - Use explicit rules for %.i, %.s, %.res, moc_% and qrc_%. r=gps
# [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/65e8d91b0f13 - Mike Hommey - Bug 905938 - Cancel GNU make builtin implicit rules by forcing -r instead of adding implicit rules to cancel them out. r=gps
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# [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/bd87262c0cd9 - Mike Hommey - Bug 905938 - Use explicit rules for {export,libs,tools}_tier_%. r=gps
# [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e616268dba3c - Mike Hommey - Bug 906403 - Avoid subconfigure fail in incremental builds when some variable like CFLAGS change. r=gps
# [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f6f98e1ea1ef - Mike Hommey - Bug 903369 - Wrap subconfigure invocation and restore config.status produced file timestamps if they haven't changed. r=gps
# [08:24] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/30ba12ec4c41 - Mike Hommey - Bug 905938 - Remove Java rules from rules.mk. r=gps
# [08:25] <avih> philor: and since this data exists (number of runs), it might be useful to also display it on talos compare, since it definitely affects the validity of the comparison
# [08:25] <philor> mconnor: avih wants to own compare-talos!
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# [08:27] <philor> it makes the ownership and active maintenance situation with graphserver look *good*
# [08:27] <avih> though i do try to improve our instrumentation system, like with improving talos tests to make them more valid and stuff at the graph server as well
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# [08:28] <avih> but it seems the review lag is not short for graphserver patches... bug 903914
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# [08:30] <avih> philor: who owns perf.snarkfest.net ?
# [08:30] <philor> avih: mconnor, much to his regret
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# [08:30] <avih> :)
# [08:30] <avih> why is his regret?
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# [08:32] <philor> at the time, he was the Firefox owner, now he's... he's... doing something with Labs, maybe?
# [08:33] <philor> https://bitbucket.org/mconnor/compare-talos/ - pull request lag looks pretty good
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# [08:34] <avih> i should still wrap my head around working with git, pull requests etc
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# [08:35] <@njn> philor: in https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=f34b3c052a53, have you seen "test_util.py | line 126, test_absolute_path: Tuples differ" before?
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# [08:37] <philor> gps: you sure https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a82f3a08ff3a was NPOTB?
# [08:37] <@njn> philor: mmm, yes it does look suspicious
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# [08:38] <philor> fortunately, glandium won't mind inheriting all that orange
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# [08:38] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
# [08:39] <philor> a likely story
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# [08:40] <gps> philor: i'm pretty sure that function is only used for mach
# [08:40] <mihneadb> gps: it's a test
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# [08:40] <mihneadb> it used to return (None, None) on an abs path
# [08:40] <mihneadb> and now it doesn't
# [08:41] <gps> well, shit. then i suppose we should back it out
# [08:41] <mihneadb> most likely the change in a82f3a08ff3a needs a test update
# [08:41] <Ms2ger> python/mozbuild/mozbuild/util.py changed, python/mozbuild/mozbuild/test/test_util.py fails?
# [08:41] <gps> 1 line patches are always the worst
# [08:41] <mihneadb> gps: might be easier to file a follow up fix ?
# [08:41] <Ms2ger> Backout :)
# [08:42] <philor> already did
# [08:42] <mihneadb> you know better :P
# [08:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a727146d85e2 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out a82f3a08ff3a (bug 901644) for being both POTB and soon to be causing orange in mozbuild/test/test_util.py
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# [08:43] <glob> potb?
# [08:43] <philor> Part Of The Build
# [08:43] <gps> that'll teach dcamp to submit patches to the build system! ;)
# [08:44] * Ms2ger thinks it's about time to stop claiming the build system is npotb
# [08:44] <mihneadb> ++
# [08:44] <gps> I blame nalexander for implementing tests against a mach-only feature
# [08:45] <gps> that guy is just too damn thorough
# [08:45] <mihneadb> that's why you should never have people like that touch the build system
# [08:46] <Ms2ger> Tests?
# [08:46] <Ms2ger> It's like he had to deal with l10n or fennec
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# [09:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e046ece4b23 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 905879 - More robust tier tracking; r=glandium
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# [09:15] <ckitching> So I'm curious... Are there any advantages to running builds that may or may not work on try as opposed to locally? I've spotted a fair few try pushes which fail to build on absolutely every platform - does try somehow provide extra information on the failure, or are such pushes just wasting resources?
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# [09:15] <Ms2ger> It may be because you forgot to hg add a new file
# [09:16] <gcp> or hg qrefresh somewhere
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# [09:17] <Ms2ger> Or a warning in a warnings-as-errors dir when you don't have that enabled locally
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# [09:18] <ckitching> Ms2ger: Hmm. Shouldn't the local build environment be equivalent to the one on try, for the same platform?
# [09:18] <@njn> or sometimes you just get lucky
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# [09:18] <gcp> GCC version might also differ
# [09:18] <ckitching> I see. This sort of madness.
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# [09:18] <gcp> Which I presume is worse with warnings-as-errors
# [09:19] <ckitching> Perhaps a paralell build race condition or something.
# [09:19] <ckitching> Ah. That too.l
# [09:19] <ckitching> I see.
# [09:19] <Ms2ger> I hope we don't have too many of those :)
# [09:19] <ckitching> So it's not quite as rage-inducing to see people submitting all-red try pushes now, then :P
# [09:19] <Ms2ger> But yes, not having built locally, accidentally or not, is another reason :)
# [09:19] <gcp> Better than all-red m-i pushes.
# [09:19] <ckitching> This is true.
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# [09:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2872a52eb8a8 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 905989 - Fix a bogus assert and move the is-constructor check to getPolyCallTargets. r=h4writer
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# [09:24] <darktrojan> updating a year-old c-c ... added 2571 changesets with 13014 changes to 4701 files ... pff, that's only a few day's worth on m-c
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# [09:30] <gaston> jcranmer|away: patch from 906783 doesnt apply as-is..
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# [09:43] <NeilAway> glob: bah, and I suppose the removal of the bug summary from the bug page itself is also by design?
# [09:43] <glob> NeilAway, um, the summary is still there
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# [10:08] <nicklebedev> Hi Guys
# [10:08] <NeilAway> glob: sorry was afk
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# [10:09] <nicklebedev> i'm trying to debug scrolling via touch on desktop... but seems like not real touch happens but emulation
# [10:09] <nicklebedev> is there any way to disable such thing?
# [10:09] <nicklebedev> as far as I know it is named scroll emulation or gesture recognition
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# [10:14] <NeilAway> glob: fixed sorry to bother you
# [10:14] <glob> NeilAway, no worries :) it's a new skin so i was concerned that something was broken in some weird way
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# [10:41] <darktrojan> TIL there's a magic __LOCATION__ in js
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# [10:43] <edmorley> hg pull -u
# [10:43] <edmorley> bah
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# [10:45] <Unfocused> darktrojan: only our js
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# [10:46] <@roc> nicklebedev: did smaug help you?
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# [10:54] <Gijs> edmorley: are you done merging to m-c? :D
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# [10:54] <Gijs> (I was merging to UX and then you merged more stuff to m-c)
# [10:54] <edmorley> Gijs: yup
# [10:54] <Gijs> excellent
# [10:55] <edmorley> Gijs: (unless there is nothing to merge, we'll typically do inbound+b2g-inbound+fx-team in a similar timeframe)
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# [10:55] <Gijs> edmorley: cool. I don't have a timeframe, I just look at incoming changesets from mc to see if it's worth merging. :)
# [10:55] <NeilAway> user-agent sheet ftw
# [10:55] <Gijs> (and today I got unlucky as right after my previous merge, you merged the aforementioned 3 branches)
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# [10:57] <NeilAway> ckitching: unexpected all-red pushes are better than unexpected all-orange pushes because the test jobs don't run ;-)
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# [11:06] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f620fcca5ff1 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 906284 - Fix Ion SetPropertyIC to pass the right value to SetProperty. r=bhackett,efaust
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# [11:33] <edmorley> paul: browser-chrome failures on fx-team https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=c1a70c464572
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# [11:36] <paul> meh
# [11:36] <paul> edmorley: thanks - looking
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# [11:45] <paul> edmorley: I'm confused. Which patch could be reponsible of this orange?
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# [11:46] <edmorley> paul: I'm not sure, was hoping you might be able to guess :-)
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# [11:48] <jez> I want to examine some popup menuitem's in DOM inspector but obviously when i focus on DOM inspector they disappear. Is there any way I can examine them?
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# [11:54] <mcsmurf> heh: "C:\mozilla-build\msys\bin\bash.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's heap (0x60210000 <0x2340000>) in child,
# [11:54] <mcsmurf> Win32 error 0"
# [11:54] <mcsmurf> looks like I need to reboot, at least last time this was the only way to fix this...
# [11:55] <mcsmurf> though that error only happens once a year or so
# [11:55] <paul> edmorley: probes related (telemetry)
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# [11:56] <paul> maybe not...
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# [11:57] <edmorley> paul: would you like me to back out e039f5fc18d0 and see how we go?
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# [11:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/342c800534ab - David Burns - bug 901781: Correct viewport algorithm for marionette and enable visibility tests; r=mdas
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# [11:59] <paul> edmorley: this is not part of the changeset?
# [12:00] <edmorley> paul: ?
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# [12:00] <edmorley> paul: which cset were you meaning?
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# [12:00] <edmorley> paul: or we could back them all out and send them to try individually
# [12:00] <paul> edmorley: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Fx-Team&rev=c1a70c464572
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# [12:01] <paul> edmorley: erf, sorry - the firebot line confused me
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# [12:01] <paul> edmorley: let's try with e039f5fc18d0 first, yeah
# [12:01] <edmorley> paul: ok, thank you
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# [12:04] <mwargers> smaug, ping?
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# [12:06] <@smaug> mwargers: pong
# [12:07] <mwargers> smaug, hi, I was wondering about the message manager, you know how that works, right?
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# [12:08] <mwargers> smaug, when I use sendSyncMessage, I'm guaranteed that the js waits for a response before it continues?
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# [12:08] <@smaug> yes
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# [12:08] <mwargers> ok, cool!
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# [12:09] <@smaug> bsmedberg's status board is broken :(
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# [12:10] <mwargers> smaug, I'm still not quite sure what content process and chrome process means regarding to the message manager
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# [12:11] <mwargers> smaug, when I use loadFrameScript, I can load a content process script, but it still has chrome privileges?
# [12:11] <@smaug> well, there are also in-process-message-managers
# [12:11] <@smaug> mwargers: with
# [12:11] <@smaug> er
# [12:11] <@smaug> right
# [12:11] <mwargers> with er right?
# [12:11] <@smaug> mwargers: "frame scripts" have chrome privileges in content process
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# [12:12] <@smaug> mwargers: right :)
# [12:12] <mwargers> ah, heh
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# [12:13] <ttaubert> edmorley: was backing out bug 795979 a wild guess? :)
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# [12:13] <mwargers> smaug, ok, but "frame scripts" don't 'see' the same things as regular scripts in a content process, right? Because when a content process script is doing window.isFoo = 'foo', the "frame script" isn't able to see that
# [12:13] <edmorley> ttaubert: paul's suggestion :-)
# [12:14] <ttaubert> edmorley: ok!
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# [12:15] <@smaug> mwargers: yes, frame scripts run in their own script global
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# [12:16] <@smaug> the script global is http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsIMessageManager.idl#307
# [12:16] <@smaug> + it implements EventTarget
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# [12:16] <mwargers> ok
# [12:17] <mwargers> I'll try to parse that
# [12:17] <mwargers> do you happen to know any good explanation somewhere about what a 'script global' is?
# [12:17] <@smaug> mwargers: you may also want to read the documentation here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/public/nsIMessageManager.idl#13
# [12:18] <mwargers> ah, thanks!
# [12:18] <mwargers> smaug, how about when you have used multiple loadFrameScript ? Can the resulting injected scripts access properties from each other?
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# [12:20] <@smaug> yes
# [12:21] <mwargers> ok
# [12:21] <mwargers> I'm still trying to understand how specialpowers works
# [12:22] <mwargers> I understand how it attaches it to every new window: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/specialpowers/content/specialpowers.js?force=1#123
# [12:22] <@smaug> if you want to hide something, (function() { yourstuff })(); should work
# [12:23] <@smaug> mwargers: so events propagate from the web pages to the message manager's global (aka TabChildGlobal)
# [12:24] <mwargers> ok
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# [12:25] <mwargers> I tried to access the SpecialPowers object from another loadFrameScript script, but I wasn't able to access it
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# [12:26] <mwargers> I used similar code as http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/specialpowers/content/specialpowers.js?force=1#123 to get the proper window object
# [12:27] <@smaug> proper window object?
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# [12:27] <@smaug> .content in the global object is the top level window object
# [12:29] <@smaug> mwargers: oh, did you try to access window.SpecialPowers or something?
# [12:29] <mwargers> yes
# [12:29] <@smaug> that SpecialPowers might be hidden by default because of security wrappers
# [12:29] <mwargers> I tried .content.SpecialPowers, but that didn't work
# [12:29] <mwargers> I can't remember what error I was getting
# [12:29] <@smaug> I mean hidden from chrome js
# [12:30] <mwargers> security wrappers?
# [12:30] <@smaug> Can you access window.wrappedJSObject.SpecialPowers
# [12:30] <@smaug> See also http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/specialpowers/content/specialpowers.js?force=1#104
# [12:31] <mwargers> smaug, ok, I'll try that one
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# [12:34] <mwargers> ugh, for some reason, the emulator won't start up anymore
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# [12:37] <ttaubert> edmorley: hmmm.. did you see the same failure on the push before? :/
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# [12:37] <edmorley> ttaubert: nope
# [12:38] <Gijs> Can one ask a deferred if it's been resolved already?
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# [12:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/f650a848cd6c - Mats Palmgren - Bug 904810 - Restore old default behavior on Windows that UP/DOWN go to next/prev line also when there's a selection. r=ehsan a=bbajaj
# [12:40] <edmorley> ttaubert: huh though it has now on the pgo run the push before
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# [12:41] <ttaubert> edmorley: yeah... that's what I meant
# [12:41] <edmorley> ttaubert: ah sorry, I read "did you see" as "have you seen any"
# [12:42] <ttaubert> heh, right. that wasn't clear
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# [12:44] <edmorley> ttaubert: perhaps delayed fallout from http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/fx-team/rev/7e8ff4c464f9 ?
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# [12:45] <ttaubert> edmorley: yes that must be it. the method is exactly where it hangs for me locally
# [12:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a3788b319566 - Jan de Mooij - Bug 905993 - Fix SetElementIC temp register. r=nbp
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# [12:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1d6bf2bd4003 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 7e8ff4c464f9 (bug 847863) on suspicion of causing failures in browser_sanitize-timespans.js
# [12:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/363a8fb2e153 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset c2b4444ad9fd (bug 847863)
# [12:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0620357b639d - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 36c994d08d1b (bug 847863)
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# [12:50] <Ms2ger> Woop woop
# [12:50] <NeilAway> Gijs: why would you need to know?
# [12:51] <Gijs> NeilAway: because code that calls deferred.resolve() is called multiple times...
# [12:51] <Gijs> will subsequent calls just be no-ops?
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# [12:53] <ttaubert> Gijs: they should be, yes
# [12:53] <Gijs> ttaubert: in all the promise implementations in our tree? >.<
# [12:53] * Gijs goes to figure out which one this code uses
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# [12:54] <ttaubert> I hope so but I don't know all of our implementations
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# [12:55] <Gijs> ttaubert: promise.jsm ?
# [12:55] <Gijs> (in gre/modules/ )
# [12:56] <ttaubert> Gijs: that's what I use all the time and I'm quite sure that doesn't double-resolve
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# [12:57] <ttaubert> Gijs: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/modules/Promise.jsm#263
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# [12:58] <mwargers> smaug, thanks! Something like this works: var window = aEvent.target.defaultView; window.wrappedJSObject.SpecialPowers.addPermission("allowXULXBL", true, window.document);
# [12:58] <mwargers> Now I'm only wondering what wrappedJSObject is
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# [12:59] <Gijs> ttaubert: ah, and that code goes to quite some length to prevent you from reading that value
# [12:59] <Gijs> fun
# [12:59] <@smaug> mwargers: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/wrappedJSObject
# [12:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b58b09143e5e - Michael Harrison - Bug 486080 - Remove nsIByteBuffer and nsIUnicharBuffer. r=bsmedberg
# [13:00] <ttaubert> Gijs: well... it uses private name objects
# [13:00] <Gijs> ttaubert: which have salts :)
# [13:00] * Gijs presumes he's not "supposed" to be able to read the status
# [13:00] <ttaubert> Gijs: more to prevent you from changing it. but also letting you know is probably not the right way to do it.
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# [13:00] <ttaubert> Gijs: yeah, calling .then() is the only way to know
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# [13:01] <ttaubert> well "know"
# [13:01] <mwargers> thank you
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# [13:07] <Gijs> edmorley: looks like those bc oranges are also showing up on mc?
# [13:07] <Gijs> Oh, that's what the backout was about - ignore me :)
# [13:07] <edmorley> :-)
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# [13:11] <timdream> Is someone interested in stealing this good first bug for FxOS Gaia keyboard? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=905051
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# [13:20] <suicid14> Здравствуйте, нужна ваша помощь: при открытии любого окна в mozilla firefox вылезает окно загрузки файла типа: http://files.mail.ru/E2616945BF2E4A8D87CE556DCF042C31
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# [13:22] <Ms2ger> Hah
# [13:22] <Ms2ger> We copied some code to check if a string is UTF-8 from Chrome
# [13:23] <Ms2ger> Turns out they copied it from us first
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# [13:26] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: looking at ipc/chromium/ ?
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# [13:26] <Ms2ger> Yep
# [13:27] <Ms2ger> And finding lots of dead code still
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# [13:27] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: yeah, I filed a bug / patch a while ago to rm a bit of it
# [13:28] <tbsaunde> maybe I should stop being lazy and make that patch reviewable, it probably just needs to be broken into reasonable pieces
# [13:29] <Ms2ger> Or find someone who'll review it in this state :)
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# [13:29] <Ms2ger> ehsan, maybe
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# [13:30] <tbsaunde> yeah I guess
# [13:30] <NeilAway> mwargers: why can't you write SpecialPowers.addPermission("allowXULXBL", true, aEvent.target); ?
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# [13:45] <Anupkumar> need some help regarding bug 515196
# [13:45] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b9465d94fff3 - Landry Breuil - Bug 905920 - Fix build on platforms without SPS profiler r=khuey
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# [14:12] <Ms2ger> 82 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 12424 deletions(-)
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# [14:12] <Gijs> edmorley: ping
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# [14:12] <edmorley> Gijs: hi :-)
# [14:13] <Gijs> edmorley: heya. So... UX is having the same wonderful collection of bc orange (teaches me not to merge quite as quickly, I guess...)
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# [14:13] <Gijs> it looks like your backout fixed m-c, is that right?
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# [14:14] <Gijs> (there's only one bc run in, so maybe it's a bit early to tell?)
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# [14:14] <edmorley> Gijs: yup, tha backout will fix :-)
# [14:14] <edmorley> the
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# [14:14] <Gijs> edmorley: so should I merge the backout or should I do the same backout? (does it even matter?)
# [14:15] <paul> edmorley: win8 bc is green on fx-team. so I guess that was the right patch to backout
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# [14:16] <edmorley> Gijs: merge :-)
# [14:17] <edmorley> paul: it seems to be intermittent, it was orange on m-c which didn't have any of the csets from your push, I've backed out this lot https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=1d6bf2bd4003 instead
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# [14:17] <tbsaunde> Ms2ger: I bet we didn't even build half of it :)
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# [14:18] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, true!
# [14:18] <Ms2ger> tbsaunde, I finally decided to go through the moz.build and check which ones :)
# [14:19] <Gijs> that test does different things depending on the time of day
# [14:19] <Ms2ger> Turned out to be 60-something files
# [14:19] <Gijs> (the sanitize test)
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# [14:19] <Gijs> which would explain why it's only erroring "sometimes" and/or was green when those patches first landed, and went orange later
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# [14:21] <RyanVM> Gijs: that sounds....smart
# [14:21] <RyanVM> *smh*
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# [14:22] <Gijs> RyanVM: I'm innocent, I didn't write it! :P
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# [14:23] <Gijs> But I'm not 100% sure what would be better - it tests the different durations of "clear browser history" - and if you select "today", whether or not that affects the items which are meant to be deleted in the 1 or 4 hour timespan depends on the time of day
# [14:23] <Gijs> ie, not 100% sure if that dependency can be avoided completely.
# [14:24] <paul> edmorley: ok
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# [14:26] <paul> edmorley: but you did backout e039f5fc18d0. Did you repush it?
# [14:26] <edmorley> paul: will do soon :-)
# [14:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/330b7c0fe248 - Rick Eyre - Bug 905320 - Add regression tests to make sure we don't leak again. r=khuey
# [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6245b87ea6b1 - Rick Eyre - Bug 905320 - Fix TextTrack classes to utilize cycle collection correctly. r=khuey
# [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f673d2423e08 - Sahil Chelaramani - Bug 891849 - mach's terminal magic causes weird jumps to the bottom. r=gps
# [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6a352c5e6bce - Cykesiopka - Bug 861763 - Remove text-decoration: blink in security/manager/pki/resources/content/createCertInfo.xul. r=keeler
# [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce9839537560 - Cykesiopka - Bug 332139 - Remove comment from nsJAR::Extract. r=glandium
# [14:27] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1346fc77965a - Joseph Yasi - Bug 896287 - NVIDIA specific GLX server vendor check for pixmap depth and fbConfig depth. r=karlt
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# [14:29] <edmorley> paul: done
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# [14:31] <paul> edmorley: thank you.
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# [15:00] <paul> A XUL document (document foo.xul) with iframes inside. I listen to the DOMContentLoaded event from the iframe DOM object (important). `iframe.addEventListener("load",callback)`. The callback is called ONLY if foo.xul is in its own window. If foo.xul is in a Firefox tab (so loaded inside a <browser> tag), the callback is never called. Why, and how can I work around that?
# [15:02] <paul> Using a WebProgressListener instead of "DOMContentLoaded" appears to work. But it's a bit hard to migrate all our code to progress listeners.
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# [15:05] <jesup> Too funny: loading http://mozilla.github.com/webrtc-landing/, I got "Error 503 Backend is unhealthy" "Backend is unhealthy" "Guru Meditation: XID: 2538326338" from the "varnish cache server". (appears fixed now)
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# [15:06] <padenot> yes, github is having serious problems at the moment
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# [15:16] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a79ac594ae6a - Joel Maher - Bug 906825 - upload talos.zip to capture many talos fixes which are not being run on android. r=armenzg
# [15:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5d907df74c4d - Joel Maher - Bug 903681 - turn on ASAP tests by default and move tsvgr/tscrollr into rafx on m-c only. r=armenzg
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# [15:27] <mconnor> philor|away: man, I was so excited by scrollback :(
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# [15:27] <mconnor> avih: I'll take patches (it's Hg, not git, fwiw, happy to walk you through the PR process)
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# [15:33] <jcranmer|away> gaston: yeah, that was an experimental patch
# [15:34] <gaston> so i should just manually merge it ?
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# [15:35] <jcranmer|away> give me about 10 minutes to go through my morning email
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# [15:36] <jcranmer|away> gaston: what part doesn't apply cleanly?
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# [15:36] <gaston> i think i see the intent of the patch anyway
# [15:36] <gaston> so manual merging will do
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# [15:36] <gaston> most of the comment + ifdefery
# [15:36] <gaston> (ie, everything :)
# [15:37] <gaston> only in mfbt/Atomics.h
# [15:38] <gaston> i end up with http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2888288, looks right ?
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# [15:39] <jcranmer|away> that looks mor or less right
# [15:40] <jcranmer|away> assuming the first line is #if defined(__clang__) || defined(__GNUC__)
# [15:40] <gaston> yes
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# [15:40] <gaston> started a build with that on gcc 4.6/libstdc++ 4.6 and clang 3.3/libstdc++ 4.2
# [15:41] <gaston> In file included from /src/mozilla-central/mfbt/tests/TestAtomics.cpp:6:
# [15:41] <gaston> ../../dist/include/mozilla/Atomics.h:169:12: fatal error: 'atomic' file not found
# [15:41] <gaston> # include <atomic>
# [15:41] <gaston> that didnt go far :)
# [15:41] <jcranmer|away> which one was that?
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# [15:41] <gaston> clang/libstdc++
# [15:41] <gaston> we dont have any port of libc++ yet..
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# [15:42] <jcranmer|away> :-/
# [15:42] <mikedeboer> ddahl: can I ask you questions about crypto capabilities in Gecko that are available from JS?
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# [15:42] <jcranmer|away> can you tell me which of the #ifdef's in mfbt/Compiler.h triggered?
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# [15:43] <gaston> apparently the gcc4.6/libstdc++4.6 build goes further
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# [15:45] <tbsaunde> jcranmer|away: I seem to remember stdc++ compat using libstdcxx version macros, though they were different from gcc version
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# [15:45] <gaston> jcranmer|away: if i sprinkle a bunch of #error around, the one that triggers is
# [15:45] <gaston> 85 # elif defined(_GLIBCXX_VISIBILITY)
# [15:45] <gaston> 86 # define MOZ_LIBSTDCXX_VERSION_AT_LEAST(major, minor, patch) \
# [15:45] <gaston> 87 ((major) > 4 || (minor) >= 2)
# [15:46] <gaston> which sounds right, since we're not in MOZ_IS_GCC and libstdc++ is >= 4.2
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# [15:47] <jcranmer|away> huh
# [15:47] <gaston> ah, the gcc 4.6 build failed with 4:23.41 ../../dist/system_wrappers/cstddef:3:24: fatal error: cstddef: No such file or directory
# [15:47] <jcranmer|away> ah, that build error
# [15:47] <jcranmer|away> I'm trying to figure out how to stop that from happening
# [15:47] <jcranmer|away> isn't going so well
# [15:48] <gaston> jdcolor.c->config.h from libjpeg->Attributes.h->Compiler.h
# [15:48] <jcranmer|away> huh, normally I hit it in mozbuild
# [15:48] <jcranmer|away> er, mozglue
# [15:48] <jcranmer|away> oh, you're that error
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# [15:48] <jcranmer|away> yeah, I forgot to only include in #ifdef __cplusplus
# [15:49] <gaston> i'm not an error! :p
# [15:49] <jcranmer|away> sorry, dist/stl_wrappers/ and dist/system_wrappers look so similar to me
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# [15:50] <jcranmer|away> oh, bloody hell
# [15:50] <jcranmer|away> that's why it triggered
# [15:50] <jcranmer|away> my MOZ_LIBSTDCXX_VERSION_AT_LEAST has things on the wrong side of the comparison
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# [15:50] <jcranmer|away> it's really a MOZ_LIBSTDCXX_VERSION_AT_MOST
# [15:50] <jcranmer|away> >_<
# [15:50] <gaston> at some point i'll have to bite the bullet and move my gcc 4.6 builder to 4.8...
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# [15:51] <gaston> and pray for someone to finally port libc++
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# [15:51] <jcranmer> I'm hoping for libc++ to swoop in and save us from the awful STL implementations
# [15:51] <jcranmer> i.e., libstdc++ 4.2 and stlport
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# [15:52] <mad> ciao
# [15:52] <mad> !list
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# [15:52] <gaston> so should i change all MOZ_LIBSTDCXX_VERSION_AT_LEAST for AT_MOST ?
# [15:53] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I thought the only blocker on killing libstdc++ 4.2 with libc++ was dropping mac 10.6? which may take a while :/
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# [15:54] <NeilAway> paul: HTML frames are magic, and dispatch their load events to their frame element even though it's not in the normal event hierarchy. Otherwise events bubble up from content frames directly to the browser without touching the intervening documents.
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# [15:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94faaa7e4d40 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 906790 - Minimize layout/base #includes; r=roc
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# [15:55] <jcranmer> gaston: no, I need to fix the macros
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# [15:55] <jcranmer> I'll get you a better patch today
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# [15:55] <gaston> okay no prob, i can launch a pair of builds in the coming hours (at least before night in europe :)
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# [15:56] <paul> NeilAway: can I get parent iframes being notified of direct child iframe load event?
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# [15:57] <NeilAway> paul: you'd have to ask smaug but I doubt it without them being HTML frames
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# [15:58] <paul> NeilAway: but it works in a XUL Window. It doesn't work in a <browser>. This is confusing.
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# [15:59] <@smaug> hmm, what works and what does not
# [15:59] <paul> smaug: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/firefox-dev/2013-August/000801.html
# [15:59] <@smaug> a new event is dispatched if we're not in chrome boundary
# [15:59] <@smaug> looking
# [16:00] <@smaug> oh, DOMContentLoaded
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# [16:02] <paul> I thought the event propagation mechanism was the same
# [16:02] <@smaug> paul: so if you load something in a tab, it acts like a normal web page
# [16:03] <@smaug> events from inside iframes don't propagate to parent document
# [16:03] <paul> smaug: okay... can I work around that?
# [16:03] <@smaug> but they do propagate to chrome event handler
# [16:03] <@smaug> paul: add listener to <xul:browser> ?
# [16:03] <@smaug> which then contains the document which contains the iframe
# [16:04] <paul> smaug: that means rewriting many code.
# [16:04] <paul> smaug: (it's for the Firefox Devtools)
# [16:04] <paul> smaug: I guess I could also use a WebProgressListener
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# [16:06] <@smaug> paul: make xul:browser to create a chrome docshell?
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# [16:07] <@smaug> I assume you have now type=content somewhere
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# [16:07] <mikedeboer> Gijs: your patch also fixed bug 900433
# [16:07] <Gijs> mikedeboer: wut
# [16:08] <Gijs> seriously?
# [16:08] <Gijs> without anything else?
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# [16:08] <mikedeboer> Gijs: yup
# [16:08] <Gijs> happy dance time I guess?
# [16:08] <Gijs> :D
# [16:08] <mikedeboer> \o/\o/\o/
# [16:08] <mikedeboer> (wave)
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# [16:10] <paul> smaug: well - the browser itself uses type=content if I'm not mistaken.
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# [16:11] <paul> smaug: How can I make xul:browser use a chrome docshell? type="chrome"?
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# [16:12] <@smaug> paul: just don't have type="content" at all
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# [16:13] <paul> alright
# [16:13] <jcranmer> sometimes it's hard to resist being a dick and assigning bugs to loudly-complaining reporters and asking them when we can expect the patch
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# [16:14] <@smaug> indeed
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# [16:14] <jcranmer> I think I recall someone actually did that once
# [16:15] <jcranmer> don't remember the bug
# [16:15] <gaston> isnt it the standard way to deal with annoying whiners ? :)
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# [16:15] <jcranmer> well the problem here is that the people in this bug aren't repeat whiners
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# [16:16] <jcranmer> if they were, I'd actually be tempted enough to do it to them
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# [16:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f37ea733c94c - Masayuki Nakano - Bug 903715 part.2 Don't check in Makefile.in if the target OS is Android for <select> element dropdown test r=gps+ahalberstadt
# [16:17] <kats> smaug: daleharvey: i'd like to talk to you guys about bug 900638 and related matters
# [16:17] <daleharvey> kats: awesome, I was looking for you to ping earlier
# [16:18] <kats> daleharvey: cool. did you make any progress on the event fluffing
# [16:18] <kats> ?
# [16:19] <daleharvey> nope, I just restarted it today and just getting back on track with where the code was ending up via gestures in the sub process
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# [16:19] <daleharvey> apologies for being slow, this is unfamiliar territory for me so wanted to get everything else cleared off my plate before I got stuck down a rabbit hole
# [16:20] <kats> ok
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# [16:20] <kats> daleharvey: so do know if the event fluffing code is getting hit at all in the child process?
# [16:20] <kats> i would expect that it's not but i'm not 100% sure
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# [16:22] <kats> smaug: do you have any objections to moving gesture detection for double-tap out of APZC code and into nsEventStateManager (or nearby code)?
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# [16:23] <daleharvey> its definitely being run in the child process, but not for all events, I couldnt see it on mouse/touch up (but did on mousedown)
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# [16:24] <@smaug> kats: sounds ok to me
# [16:24] <kats> smaug: do you have any guidance on where that code should go? i don't really know the nsEventStateManager code that well
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# [16:25] <kats> daleharvey: we should figure out why that's happening; backtraces when we hit the fluffing code would be nice
# [16:25] <daleharvey> kats: will get them on the bug asap
# [16:25] <kats> daleharvey: thanks
# [16:26] <@smaug> kats: so this would be to detect double-tap in order to do what?
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# [16:26] <kats> smaug: hm, good question. i guess whatever TabChild does currently with it
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# [16:26] <@smaug> (PresShell dispatches event to ESM::PreHandleEvent then to DOM and then to ESM::PostHandleEvent)
# [16:27] <kats> smaug: is there any existing gesture detection code in nsEventStateManager? i seem to recall something like doubleclick being detected and generated, but i could be wrong
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# [16:27] <@smaug> kats: dbclick is dispatched there yes
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# [16:28] <@smaug> and mouseover/out
# [16:28] <kats> ok, so can we do something similar for tap/longtap/doubletap (assuming we need to)?
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# [16:29] <BenWa> vlad: ehsan: 6:30am good?
# [16:29] <BenWa> tomorrow
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# [16:29] <kats> smaug: so in TabChild a LongTap just dispatches a contextmenu event, we could do that in nsEventStateManager instead
# [16:29] <kats> a SingleTap dispatches a mousemove/mousedown/mouseup
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# [16:30] <@smaug> ah yes, we could do that stuff in ESM
# [16:31] <@smaug> I guess record the time in PreHandleEvent for touchdown or such, and in PostHandleEvent for touchup compare the time
# [16:31] <@smaug> and significant touchmoves would cancel the longtap
# [16:31] <kats> smaug: ok, that makes sense
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# [16:32] <vlad> BenWa: ugggh. sure :)
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# [16:32] <BenWa> vlad: Well blame ehsan for not being free at night
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# [16:33] <BenWa> I'll try to move it to later if I can reach glandium
# [16:33] <kats> smaug: i think i have enough to go on, then. i will probably have more questions later about this, and probably some about the HandleCrossProcessEvent code
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# [16:35] <@smaug> k
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# [16:38] <@ehsan> BenWa: 6:30am?
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# [16:39] <tbsaunde> jmaher: is the mochitest runtest.py supposed to have a --build-info-json flag? because it doesn't, but testsuite-targets.mk passes it one
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# [16:40] <jmaher> tbsaunde: hmm, let me look into it
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# [16:40] <tbsaunde> jmaher: thx!
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# [16:41] <ahal> jmaher: tbsaunde: that should be fixed
# [16:41] <ahal> possibly not merged to central yet
# [16:41] <ahal> but on inbound for sure
# [16:41] <jmaher> tbsaunde: I don't see it in my testsuite-targets.mk
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# [16:41] <jmaher> I have an updated inbound tree, sounds like ahal fixed it recently
# [16:42] <ahal> tbsaunde: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906045
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# [16:42] <tbsaunde> ahal: ah, thanks!
# [16:42] <ahal> tbsaunde: looks like it landed on central, so a pull should fix it
# [16:43] <tbsaunde> yeah, inbound is good enough I just try and avoid pulling
# [16:43] <tbsaunde> so hadn't seen it was fixed yet
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# [16:52] <@bz> man
# [16:52] <decoder> jcranmer: if your coverage builds work again on try, that would be awesome :) ateam is trying to figure out how to get regular coverage data afaik
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# [16:52] <@bz> when did bugzilla get avatar icons?
# [16:52] <decoder> it would be benefitial if you guys worked together I guess
# [16:52] <decoder> bz: since yesterday
# [16:52] <decoder> it's a theme switch i think
# [16:52] * @bz sees them all over all of a sudden
# [16:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b8c61de105bf - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 905176 - Don't show the Check Spelling menu item for spellcheck=false contenteditable elements; r=mconley a=bajaj
# [16:52] <glob> bz, decoder: yes, since yesterday. strictly not part of the new theme, but was enabled by default at the same time
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# [16:52] <@bz> Ph, it hooks into gravatar?
# [16:53] <glob> you can disable gravatars via user preferences
# [16:53] <@bz> er, Oh
# [16:53] <@bz> ok
# [16:53] <daleharvey> kats: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2888510
# [16:53] <decoder> glob: btw, the new theme has some rendering oddities here
# [16:53] <@bz> That explains why a bunch of people have them now
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# [16:53] <@bz> Ah, much better
# [16:53] <RyanVM> ehsan: thanks - I was very worried I would end up breaking the tests if I tried to fix that up myself
# [16:53] <glob> decoder, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugzilla.mozilla.org&component=Sandstone%2FMozilla%20Skin :)
# [16:53] <@bz> glob: thanks
# [16:53] <daleharvey> this is in the subprocess
# [16:54] <RyanVM> aww, I just setup a gravatar account yesterday too :(
# [16:54] <decoder> glob: ill just make a screenshot first and let people confirm those are bugs
# [16:54] <BenWa> ehsan: Well that's what I asked, at night is better
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# [16:54] <glob> decoder, ok, let's get your people to talk with my people
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# [16:54] <decoder> \o/
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# [16:54] * decoder has 1:1 now, but after that
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# [16:56] <froydnj> RyanVM: I will only turn on gravatars if yours can be an angry face when posting backout links, but a smiling face otherwise
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# [16:57] * glob notes you can also opt out of having a gravatar, for privacy reasons (there's another pref for that)
# [16:57] <kats> daleharvey: so that looks like event fluffing is happening fine, no?
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# [16:57] <kats> daleharvey: what event is that for? the mousedown?
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# [16:58] <jcranmer> decoder: I'm doing this locally
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# [16:58] <RyanVM> glob: meh, I decided to just have some fun with it instead
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# [16:59] <@bz> man
# [16:59] <jcranmer> decoder: I'm more than happy to work with #ateam on code-coverage, though
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# [16:59] <@bz> the summit registration stuff is bizarre
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# [16:59] <decoder> jcranmer: cool! :)
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# [16:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f081bd74d489 - Andy Wingo - Bug 907072 - ES6 reftests should run with "default version", not JS 1.8.5. r=jorendorff
# [16:59] <khuey> bz: does it ask for your spirit animal?
# [16:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a5379f0776d - Milan Sreckovic - Bug 905793 - Send ImageUpdated() on the whole image in PostFrameStop. This may be an overkill in some cases, dirtying twice. r=seth
# [16:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9fb952a6e85e - Jesse Fox - Bug 902729 - Add a new telemetry probe for session lifetimes. r=ttaubert
# [16:59] * froydnj did not care for that part of the registration
# [17:00] <kats> daleharvey: also, are you running on the HD branch? or master?
# [17:00] <@bz> khuey: no, but it asks whether to share "my email"
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# [17:00] <@bz> khuey: with other mozillians
# [17:00] <daleharvey> either the mousedown or the touchdown, just figuring out which exactly now, it definitely happens in the sub process fine for some events, but it doesnt result in the retargetted event actually firing (the link that its finding doesnt get pressed)
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# [17:00] <@bz> khuey: since they seem to think that "my email" is @mozilla.com, the answer is "no"
# [17:00] <@bz> khuey: which is nuts
# [17:01] <daleharvey> kats: using master, whats the HD branch in m-c terms? (I only know of a gaia HD branch)
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# [17:02] <RyanVM> daleharvey: it's a branch off b2g18
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# [17:03] <RyanVM> daleharvey: m-c should have any relevant fixes that landed on the HD branch
# [17:03] <kats> daleharvey: HD branch is b2g18_v1_1_0_hd
# [17:03] <daleharvey> ah cool, thanks
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# [17:05] <tbsaunde> bz: after I registered they still send me mail claiming I should and that I haven't yet...
# [17:05] <@bz> tbsaunde: mmm
# [17:05] <@bz> tbsaunde: funtimes
# [17:06] * @bz had just not seen anything about this registration business until this last round of mails
# [17:06] <@bz> anyway
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# [17:08] <kats> smaug: there's already gesture detection code in TabChild for the non-APZC case! oh man
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# [17:11] <tbsaunde> froydnj: any idea what the please attach this to your bug report line in http://paste.debian.net/27542/ is about?
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# [17:14] <@smaug> kats: ah, indeed, assuming you mean tabholdtimer etc
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# [17:14] <kats> smaug: i mean the stuff in TabChild::UpdateTapState
# [17:14] <kats> so yeah
# [17:15] <kats> mTapHoldTimer
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# [17:15] <kats> smaug: do you know if there's a reason APZC has different gesture detection? can i just turn off the APZC one and use the one in TabChild always?
# [17:16] <botond> kats: What does "scale" mean in APZC? Pinch?
# [17:16] <kats> botond: need more context
# [17:16] <@smaug> kats: don't recall. I assume the explanation is in bug 823619
# [17:16] <froydnj> tbsaunde: believe that's instructing you to attach the preprocessed source so that the bug is easier to reproduce
# [17:16] <kats> as a verb, yes it mean pinch
# [17:16] <kats> as a noun it's a multiplier
# [17:16] <botond> kats: e.g. OnScale
# [17:17] <botond> kats: got it, thanks
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# [17:17] <botond> kats: The behaviour where a scroll is handed off to a parent APZC - do we want that for flings?
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# [17:18] <kats> botond: probably
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# [17:19] <jez> You know when you mouseover persona previews on AMO, the browser is temporarily given that theme? Is there a way to make it stay in "preview mode" even after you mouseout?
# [17:19] <jez> or trigger the preview mode with some javascript function
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# [17:22] <baku> khuey, ping
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# [17:28] <khuey> baku: pong
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# [17:28] <khuey> baku: welcome back
# [17:28] <khuey> have a good vacation?
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# [17:28] <baku> khuey, awesome! 2 weeks sailing :)
# [17:28] <jlebar|away> Ms2ger: templates.
# [17:29] <khuey> baku: sounds like fun, where did you sail?
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# [17:29] <baku> sardinia
# [17:29] <khuey> nice
# [17:29] <khuey> baku: so your needinfo request on 877364
# [17:29] <baku> caprera... a small island in the north of sardinia. yeah...
# [17:29] <baku> yes! I need some info about that.
# [17:30] <baku> mmm no. it's another bug: bug 887364
# [17:30] <baku> URL API
# [17:30] <khuey> baku: yeah I just can't type ;-)
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# [17:30] <khuey> baku: https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c3ae42b64ce9
# [17:30] <khuey> is an example
# [17:31] <khuey> baku: basically it's possible in many cases to use teh same code on the main thread and on workers
# [17:31] <khuey> and I think you should be able to do that with the URL API
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# [17:32] <baku> khuey, the only think we have to check is if nsIURI is usable in workers with your changes.
# [17:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef139b6034a5 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 890722: IonMonkey: Implement JSOP_RETRVAL, JSOP_SETRVAL, JSOP_POPV, r=jandem
# [17:32] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/9586120a2290 - Hannes Verschore - Bug 905396 - IonMonkey: Bailout function of LGenericCall now takes JSObject, r=sstangl
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# [17:32] <khuey> baku: yeah, I think parts of it are and parts aren't :-/
# [17:32] <edmorley> bz: you can opt out in prefs fwiw
# [17:32] <khuey> it's been a while
# [17:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/07a69fca7c14 - Guillaume Abadie - bug 903481 - step 2 - [WebGL 2.0] transform feedback: add symbols in GLContext - r=jgilbert
# [17:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5ddc04b616a9 - Guillaume Abadie - bug 903481_- step 3 - [WebGL 2.0] implement TRANSFORM_FEEDBACK_BUFFER - r=jgilbert
# [17:33] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c805788476ea - Guillaume Abadie - bug 903481 - step 1 - Move WebGL buffers function into GLContextBuffers.cpp - r=jgilbert
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# [17:33] <NeilAway> bz: it doesn't, unless you have the auto-cc on request turned on
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# [17:34] <khuey> baku: fwiw, even if you need some worker specific code to deal with nsIURIs
# [17:34] <khuey> baku: the memory management stuff can be shared
# [17:34] <khuey> (don't use trace/finalize hooks, etc)
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# [17:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/27cf1ae86abf - Luke Wagner - Bug 907085 - Don't use GetIonContext->cx during GC (r=jandem)
# [17:36] <baku> khuey, so in this case, I still need 2 classes, where the worker one inherits the main-thread one. makes sense?
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# [17:36] <jesup> glandium: ping
# [17:36] <khuey> baku: possibly
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# [17:37] <khuey> baku: without knowing what exactly needs to be different, that's not an unreasonable approach
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# [17:37] <khuey> baku: some logic gated on if (NS_IsMainThread()) doX() else doY() may work too
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# [17:38] <baku> ok
# [17:38] <Ms2ger> jlebar, mmm, templates
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# [17:41] <fabrice> Ms2ger: do you know why the generated webidl dictionaries have their copy constructor private? That makes them hard to pass to runnables
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# [17:42] <Ms2ger> fabrice, not off hand... bz?
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# [17:46] <@ehsan> RyanVM: no worries :)
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# [17:47] <tbsaunde> froydnj: but is that necessarily a bug? (sorry was in 1:1)
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# [17:49] <froydnj> tbsaunde: this is your own personal copy of GCC HEAD or thereabouts?
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# [17:51] <froydnj> tbsaunde: actually, nm, I misread. but for enlightenment, see http://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs/gcc/trunk/gcc/diagnostic.c?revision=201574&view=markup line 744
# [17:51] <froydnj> tbsaunde: something definitely has gone wrong
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# [17:56] <tbsaunde> froydnj: current debian stable build of gcc 4.8
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# [17:57] <khuey> hmm
# [17:57] <khuey> !seen jwatt
# [17:57] <firebot> jwatt was last seen 1 week, 5 days, 31 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying 'snorp: Bas would know' in #mobile.
# [17:57] <khuey> ok apparently he doesn't IRC very much
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# [17:57] <ted> heh
# [17:57] <ted> i thought he used to be on pretty regularly
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# [18:06] <tbsaunde> froydnj: looks like its another constexpr fe bug :|
# [18:06] <jcranmer> jlebar: I'm secretly plotting to add move constructors to nsC?String as well
# [18:06] <jlebar> jcranmer: not anymore, you're not.
# [18:06] <jlebar> jcranmer: this stuff is very cool.
# [18:06] <jlebar> I haven't been this happy with C++ in a while. :)
# [18:07] <jcranmer> jlebar: yep, I can pretty much kill nsAdoptingString with that too
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# [18:07] <jlebar> yeah
# [18:07] <jcranmer> (except the problem is that nsAdoptingString inherits from nsXPIDLString, and some people actually want the nsXPIDLString-nature of it, not the copy-is-really-move nature)
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# [18:08] <jcranmer> I've been trying to see if I can reduce the epicly large number of string classes we have
# [18:08] <jlebar> jcranmer: let's hope we get rid of mozilla::Move soon.
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# [18:08] <jcranmer> move constructors are very useful, you just have to use them properly and carefully
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# [18:08] <@bz> Ah, just like footguns
# [18:09] <tbsaunde> but very tastey food guns
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# [18:09] <tbsaunde> s/food/foot/
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# [18:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7b925807955c - Justin Lebar - Bug 906918 - Use MoveRef's in nsTHashtable. r=bsmedberg
# [18:09] <jlebar> Speaking of which. ^. :)
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# [18:09] <jcranmer> can we please kill off moveref?
# [18:10] <jlebar> jcranmer: there's a bug.
# [18:10] <jlebar> they're caught up on something.
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# [18:10] <jcranmer> STLport not having std::move/std::forward/std::swap?
# [18:10] <NeilAway> jcranmer: I thought they wanted the "this adopts the char_type* constructor parameter" behaviour of it
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# [18:10] <jcranmer> NeilAway: actually, about half of them don't
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# [18:11] <jcranmer> you see, mozilla::Preferences returns an nsAdoptingC?String
# [18:11] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: yeah, dealing with stlport
# [18:11] <jlebar> jcranmer: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896100
# [18:11] <jlebar> and, yes.
# [18:11] <tbsaunde> I'm fairly tempted to just add mozilla::Move / Forward at this point
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# [18:11] <jcranmer> and you need to copy that into an nsAdoptingC?String to get the move aspect of it
# [18:11] <NeilAway> jcranmer: ew
# [18:12] <jcranmer> that's why that one is hard to kill
# [18:12] <jlebar> tbsaunde: that would be a step in the right direction, as far as I'm concerned.
# [18:12] <jcranmer> the only string class I've been able to easily kill so far is nsFixedString
# [18:12] <Waldo> jcranmer: mostly just that nobody except me, to a minor approximation, understands rvalue references well enough yet
# [18:13] <Ms2ger> ehsan, hey!
# [18:13] <Waldo> re killing moveref
# [18:13] <jcranmer> Waldo: I had to look them up to figure out how to write nsString's constructor
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# [18:13] <Waldo> there is some grokking
# [18:13] <jcranmer> mostly, I needed to pass it to another functions
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# [18:13] <tbsaunde> jlebar: yeah, but getting a not bad stl for android / b2g would be nicer
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# [18:14] <jlebar> tbsaunde: definitely.
# [18:14] <jcranmer> nsString(self_type &&str) { Swap(std::move(str)); }
# [18:14] <Waldo> rvalue references boiling away when you stare at them makes for fun times
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# [18:14] <jlebar> jcranmer: whaaa?
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# [18:15] <jcranmer> jlebar: I wanted to use the same inner method for both move constructor and move assignment
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# [18:15] <jlebar> jcranmer: but why doesn't Swap(str) work?
# [18:15] <jlebar> str is already an &&.
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# [18:15] <Waldo> jlebar: no, it's not
# [18:15] <jlebar> Apparently I don't understand rvalue references well enough.
# [18:16] <Waldo> jlebar: rvalue references can *only* be the result of evaluating a temporary
# [18:16] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: sorry in a meeting :/
# [18:16] <Waldo> Swap(str) would not call a move overload
# [18:16] <jcranmer> jlebar: all I know is that the compiler didn't work
# [18:16] <jlebar> Waldo: And similarly, I couldn't do |self_type&& s = str|?
# [18:17] <jlebar> self_type&&& ? :)
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# [18:17] <Waldo> jlebar: I think you could do that, but once you pass |s| somewhere, it boils away again, I belive
# [18:17] <Waldo> s/live/lieve/
# [18:17] <jcranmer> (T&&) & -> T&
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# [18:17] * jlebar will read the page waldo linked.
# [18:17] <Waldo> jlebar: read all of http://thbecker.net/articles/rvalue_references/section_01.html about five times
# [18:17] <Waldo> :-D
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# [18:18] <Waldo> then set it down, do something else, come back to it again, and read it again
# [18:18] <jcranmer> rvalue references work a lot better when you only support move and not copy
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# [18:18] <Ms2ger> ehsan, just wondering if you wanted to review a patch later that removes 12k of ipc/chromium's 40k lines of code
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# [18:18] <jcranmer> because screwing up gets you a compiler failure instead of a copy decay
# [18:18] <jlebar> Waldo: I guess I care because https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906912 works /much/ better with C++11 move refs. Which means I'm now blocked on bug 896100.
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# [18:19] <Waldo> jlebar: fine by me; which part specifically do you want? mozilla::Move to return T&&, mozilla::Forward, or some other part?
# [18:20] <jlebar> Waldo: Just mozilla::Move returning T&&, or alternatively std::move being available everywhere.
# [18:20] <jcranmer> the part I want is drop-in replacement for std::move/std::forward/std::swap
# [18:20] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b1b090ac0344 - Eitan Isaacson - Bug 906867 - Include speech synth ipdls regardless of it being enabled at build time. r=gps
# [18:21] <Waldo> jlebar: can we not have multiple Move overloads, temporarily? not that that's happy-making, but incremental changing would make for happier everyones there
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# [18:21] <jlebar> Waldo: we can, but that still doesn't solve my problem in that bug.
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# [18:22] <Waldo> jlebar: which problem?
# [18:22] <jlebar> Waldo: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906912#c5
# [18:23] <@ehsan> Ms2ger: always!
# [18:23] <Waldo> jlebar: what exactly doesn't work, if you have another T&&-returning mozilla::Move?
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# [18:24] <jlebar> Waldo: maybe I misunderstand. It sounds like you're saying we could overload mozlla::Move based on its return type.
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# [18:25] <Waldo> hmm, would it be a return-type overload, exactly?
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# [18:26] <jlebar> template<typename T>
# [18:26] <jlebar> inline MoveRef<T>
# [18:26] <jlebar> Move(const T& t)
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# [18:27] <Waldo> emplate <class T> typename remove_reference<T>::type&& move(T&& t) noexcept;
# [18:27] <Waldo> could just rename the old Move to DeprecatedMove
# [18:27] <Waldo> add the new one
# [18:27] <jlebar> Oh, std::move takes a T&& and not a T&
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# [18:27] <Waldo> fix the old references one by one
# [18:27] <jlebar> That is...not what I expected.
# [18:28] <NeilAway> jcranmer: what's wrong with nsFixedString?
# [18:28] <Waldo> well, it has to, in order to move values and const/non-const references and rvalue references
# [18:28] <jcranmer> NeilAway: it's unnecessary
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# [18:28] <jcranmer> NeilAway: also, it's a footgun
# [18:29] <jlebar> Waldo: But I didn't think you could take an rvalue reference to an lvalue.
# [18:29] <jlebar> Waldo: Sounds like I need to keep reading this thing
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# [18:29] <jcranmer> I can eliminate it by making nsAutoString take a parameter as to the size of its storage buffer
# [18:29] <jcranmer> (template parameter)
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# [18:29] <NeilAway> jlebar: all references invisibly decay into the thing being referenced
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# [18:30] <Waldo> jlebar: T& && reference-collapses into T&, section 8 when you get to it
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# [18:30] <jcranmer> really, what I did was make a mozilla::FixedString<N>, and typedef'd mozilla::FixedString<64> to nsAutoString
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# [18:31] <NeilAway> jcranmer: ah, that makes more sense
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# [18:32] <jwir3> what does MOZ_OVERRIDE give us in an overridden function?
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# [18:32] <jcranmer> (I only did the typedef because you can't use X instead of X<>)
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# [18:32] <Ms2ger> jwir3, enforcing that you are indeed overriding and not shadowing
# [18:32] <jcranmer> jwir3: if the function doesn't override, the compiler spits out a nasty warning
# [18:33] <jcranmer> s/warning/error/
# [18:33] <Waldo> jwir3: means that it must override something -- so if the base class signature/name changes, you don't just keep working
# [18:33] <jwir3> ah, ok.
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# [18:47] <pbrosset> Hi there, working on my first bug here, just tried to add a new mochitest and run it individually by using ./mach mochitest-browser path/to/my/test.js
# [18:47] <pbrosset> getting an error saying "Specified test path does not exist"
# [18:47] <pbrosset> "You may need to run |mach build| to build the test files."
# [18:47] <pbrosset> but running .mach build doesn't help
# [18:47] <pbrosset> Am I missing something
# [18:48] <Ms2ger> Did you add it to the Makefile.in?
# [18:48] <froydnj> did you add it to the list of mochitests in the relevant directory's Makefile.in/moz.build?
# [18:48] <pbrosset> oh snap, thanks that must be it
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# [18:49] <NeilAway> jcranmer: can you not use template<int N=64> class nsAutoString?
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# [18:49] <jcranmer> NeilAway: I did do that
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# [18:49] <jcranmer> the issue is that you still have to say nsAutoString<> in that case
# [18:49] <NeilAway> jcranmer: d'oh
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# [18:50] <jcranmer> that's why I called it FixedString and typedef'd the <> to nsAutoString
# [18:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1718a2f065c6 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset ef139b6034a5 (bug 890722) for SM rootanalysis orange.
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# [18:51] <evilpie> bsmedberg: I love the status board, but submitting status reports takes a like a minute for me
# [18:51] <@bsmedberg> that's weird
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# [18:52] <evilpie> I will do an update and take a screenshot of the network tab
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# [18:54] <evilpie> bsmedberg: http://i.imgur.com/MFYvMxb.png
# [18:54] <@bsmedberg> evilpie: probably email handling. Not something I can fix easily with refactoring email
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# [18:55] <evilpie> you send all emails synchronously?
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# [18:55] <@bsmedberg> yes
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# [18:56] <glob_> khuey, technically we don't send emails synchronously (but we generate them)
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# [18:56] <glob_> (that should be better soon!)
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# [18:58] <cdiehl> and here: layout/base/nsPresArena.cpp:132:14: error: out-of-line definition of 'UnpoisonFreeList' does not match any declaration in 'nsPresArena'
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# [19:04] <botond> dzbarsky: hello
# [19:05] <dzbarsky> botond: hi
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# [19:05] <botond> dzbarsky: I understand you're working on making the B2G browser run in its own process (and having tabs run in sibling processes)
# [19:05] <dzbarsky> correct
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# [19:06] <botond> dzbarsky: Is that likely to be in 26? jlebar said probably not, but I just wanted to double-check.
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# [19:06] <dzbarsky> botond: I doubt it. even if it lands, I anticipate it causing regressions and needing to be disabled in gaia because our testing isn't so great
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# [19:08] <botond> dzbarsky: ok, cool. thanks
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# [19:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/48ee2152dcbd - Ted Mielczarek - bug 842728 - init Breakpad from C++ in xpcshell, remove ability to init from script. r=bholley,gps
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# [19:11] <botond> kats: is nexus 4 a b2g device?
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# [19:17] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: ping
# [19:18] <@bz> ehsan: ping
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# [19:18] <@ehsan> bz: pong (meeting)
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# [19:19] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|Sheriff: hi
# [19:20] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: hi :)
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# [19:20] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: I was just wondering if we're at a help wanted phase yet for the test_focus_autocomplete.xul oranges?
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# [19:21] <@bz> ehsan: did you ever get a sane response to your mail about the findbar?
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# [19:21] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|Sheriff: we at the phase were I need help from someone who knows things about autocompletes
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# [19:22] <tbsaunde> I was going t ocomment in bug shortly already
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# [19:22] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: ok, I'll mention it today in the platform meeting too
# [19:22] <bholley> where do the new bugzilla avatars come from? Gmaila?
# [19:22] <bholley> *gmail?
# [19:22] <RyanVM|Sheriff> bholley: gravatar
# [19:22] <tbsaunde> RyanVM|Sheriff: ok
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# [19:23] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> anyone know how to make a html element extend the whole page
# [19:23] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> no matter the resolution
# [19:23] <Waka_Flocka_Flame> or browser
# [19:23] <@ehsan> bz: no, it was completely ignored
# [19:24] <@ehsan> bz: which is very frustrating cause that's where I was asked to take my feedback to
# [19:24] <RyanVM|Sheriff> tbsaunde: feel free to add that comment, though - always nice to be able to point to a quick summary of where things are at
# [19:24] <botond> kats: Yup, works fine now with a text-only page
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# [19:24] <@ehsan> bz: I'm going to pursue it however, I'm planning to post to dev.planning in a few days
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# [19:24] <@ehsan> cause this is not a browser I'd like to ship ;)
# [19:24] <botond> kats: What I'm seeing, though, is that flings don't cause hand-over, only pans.
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# [19:25] <kats> botond: that could be, i don't remember exactly what we implemented for fennec
# [19:25] <@bz> ehsan: Thank you
# [19:25] <@bz> ehsan: The current behavior is super-annoying. :(
# [19:25] <botond> kats: Do you think this may be by design? It would make sense to me to interpret the fling as "scroll the current scrollable by a lot (or as far as it will go)", and a pan as "scroll *something* as long as my finger is on the page".
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# [19:25] <@ehsan> bz: actually I think I'll do this today, I don't think anybody on that list is interested to respond... it's been like a week
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# [19:26] <botond> kats: In which case, we should probably do the same thing on B2G, right?
# [19:26] <kats> botond: yes, i think that makes sense, and that it is by design
# [19:26] <kats> yeah we should do the same for b2g
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# [19:27] <botond> kats: Rather than guessing at what is by design, though, is there someone we could ask? Perhaps Ian?
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# [19:28] <@bz> firefox-dev, that is
# [19:29] <ddahl> mikedeboer: pong
# [19:29] <@ehsan> bz: don't bother :)
# [19:30] <@ehsan> bz: I'll post to dev.planning after this meeting
# [19:30] <@bz> ehsan: about something else
# [19:30] <@ehsan> bz: oh ok :)
# [19:30] <@bz> ehsan: is it firefox-dev at mozilla.org ?
# [19:30] <@ehsan> let me check
# [19:30] <@ehsan> bz: yes
# [19:31] <@bz> Thanks
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# [19:31] <kats> botond: in general yeah you could ask ian but in this case i seem to recall we did do it by design. there's probably a bug somewhere with the decision
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# [19:32] <BenWa> No, let me file one
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# [19:39] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc7686d07acf - Gregory Szorc - Bug 883209 - Part 2: Add HTML interface to render build resource usage; r=glandium
# [19:39] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb14e3a5a7c8 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 883209 - Part 1: Record system resource usage of builds; r=glandium
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# [19:43] <bholley> bsmedberg: when does the layout module get shut down? Can it ever happen in a nested event loop?
# [19:43] <rforbes> do we se the /GS flag on windows builds?
# [19:43] <rforbes> i am not seeing it so it would seem we don't
# [19:44] <@bsmedberg> bholley: I seriously doubt it
# [19:44] <@bsmedberg> bholley: it should only be shut down very late in NS_ShutdownXPCOM
# [19:44] <bholley> bsmedberg: ok great, thanks
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# [19:44] <bholley> bsmedberg: so random nsContentUtils code that holds strong refs to nsLayoutStatics is probably silly, right?
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# [19:45] <mccr8> nsContentUtils::WrapNative
# [19:45] <bholley> bsmedberg: like, WrapNative
# [19:45] <@bsmedberg> IIRC nsLayoutStatics lasts longer than the layout module
# [19:45] <@bsmedberg> that was its purpose, because people were leaking wrapped objects
# [19:45] <@bsmedberg> and then it was crashing
# [19:46] <bholley> bsmedberg: well, right now we shut down XPConnect in LayoutModuleDtor
# [19:46] <bholley> bsmedberg: which is the dtor registered with the XPCOM module
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# [19:48] <bholley> bsmedberg: so any stack-scoped COMPtrs would keep it alive
# [19:48] <bholley> I wonder if there are any of those left
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# [20:01] <jaws> https://air.mozilla.org/san-francisco-152-sd-live-feed/
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# [20:03] <gavin> Enn: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890795 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695019 are happening quite frequently, could you take a look and see if you have any ideas?
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# [20:08] <@dbaron> So what does -gsplit-dwarf do?
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# [20:08] <@dbaron> Does it leave the debug info in the objdir such that it's not in dist/bin ?
# [20:08] <@dbaron> And if so, what's the recommended way to disable it?
# [20:09] <@dbaron> --enable-debug-symbols=-g ?
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# [20:11] <froydnj> mmm, I bet we need to tell gold to create .gdb_index
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# [20:13] <@johnath> vladan: bug # on irving's work?
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# [20:17] <Callek> bholley: you have your minidump
# [20:17] <bholley> Callek: \o/
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# [20:17] <froydnj> dbaron: what does |ld --version| say?
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# [20:18] <@dbaron> froydnj, GNU gold (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu 2.22) 1.11
# [20:18] <cpeterson> ehsan: ping re WebAudio?
# [20:18] <ehsan_> cpeterson: hi
# [20:19] <vladan> johnath: it's bug 772484
# [20:19] <cpeterson> ehsan: I tested WebAudio on TBPL's m-c build and there is extreme reverb compared to Chrome. Is that a known issue?
# [20:19] <froydnj> dbaron: you could try --enable-debug-symbols=-Wl,--gdb-index
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# [20:20] <@dbaron> froydnj, does -gsplit-dwarf do what I described?
# [20:20] <@johnath> vladan: danke
# [20:20] <@dbaron> froydnj, because I depend on rsync-ing dist/bin to a different machine and being able to debug
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# [20:20] <@dbaron> froydnj, so if it would break that, I don't want it
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# [20:20] <@bz> hr
# [20:21] <@bz> er, hrm
# [20:21] <ehsan_> bz: mailed dev.planning
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# [20:21] <froydnj> dbaron: ah. well, that would be a problem; split-dwarf breaks that use case
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# [20:21] <@bz> I thought we could share ccache stuff across srcdirs. :(
# [20:21] <@dbaron> froydnj, it would be nice to have a way to disable that without having to know what other magic the build system does
# [20:21] <ehsan_> cpeterson: I have no idea what you mean :)
# [20:21] <ehsan_> cpeterson: do you have a test case?
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# [20:21] <cpeterson> ehsan: yes, http://www.cappel-nord.de/webaudio/acid-defender/
# [20:21] <ehsan_> overholt|afk: ping
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# [20:22] <overholt|afk> ehsan_, yo
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# [20:22] <ehsan_> overholt: where are you?
# [20:22] <overholt> ehsan_, at my desk
# [20:22] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: some things, yes
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# [20:22] <ehsan_> cpeterson: can you please file a bug with steps to reproduce the problem? thanks!
# [20:23] <@bz> How does the compiler decide what to put in __FILE__ ?
# [20:23] <cpeterson> ehsan: sure thing. I just waned to make sure it wasn't already a known issue.
# [20:23] <@bz> In my case it's sticking in absolute paths....
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# [20:23] <froydnj> dbaron: huh, grepping for split-dwarf on central and inbound isn't turning up anything
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# [20:23] <@dbaron> froydnj, 904979 says it was fixed
# [20:24] <till> bz: it apparently differs between compilers. Some do relative paths
# [20:24] <@bz> well
# [20:24] <Waldo> bz: however the compiler wants, no? implementation-defined and all that
# [20:24] <@bz> so afaict both clang and gcc use exactly what got passed on the command line
# [20:24] <@bz> Which implies that we're passing in absolute paths...
# [20:25] <Waldo> bz: although, if you use #line you can set it to something different if you want (although this might be a C++11 feature for all I know)
# [20:25] <@bz> The reason I ask is that this obviously breaks ccache across srcdirs
# [20:25] <@bz> for any file with any assertions in it
# [20:26] <Waldo> bz: I hear b2g worked around this problem...
# [20:26] <Waldo> :-\
# [20:26] <Waldo> but yes, this does sound a little sadmaking
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# [20:26] <@bz> And I _think_ this used to work
# [20:26] <froydnj> Waldo: #line is very standard
# [20:26] <@bz> in that I had ccache working across srcdirs in the past
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# [20:27] <Waldo> froydnj: I didn't know offhand whether the name-specifying bit was or not
# [20:27] <@bz> khuey: ping
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# [20:29] * @bz thought we had a configure option for specifying how to reach the srcdir from the objdir....
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# [20:31] <Waldo> bz: could bump your ccache max-size as a hackaround
# [20:31] <gps> bz: pong
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# [20:32] <khuey> bz: pong
# [20:32] <@bz> gps, khuey: it looks like when we compile .cpp files we pass the absolute path to the file to the compiler
# [20:32] <@bz> gps, khuey: expected?
# [20:33] <khuey> hmm
# [20:33] <gps> bz: that might be a recent regression
# [20:33] <khuey> not really
# [20:33] <khuey> I would expect relative paths
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# [20:33] <gps> bz: is this windows?
# [20:33] <@bz> gps: mac
# [20:33] <@bz> gps: I'm seeing the same behavior back tens of thousands of revisions, afaict....
# [20:34] <@bz> env MAKEFLAGS= make -C ../obj-firefox/content/base/src/ nsDocument.o
# [20:34] <@bz> ...
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# [20:34] <@bz> command ends with "/Users/bzbarsky/mozilla/inbound/mozilla/content/base/src/nsDocument.cpp
# [20:34] <khuey> might end up depending on relative vs. absolute configure
# [20:34] <@bz> mmm
# [20:34] <@bz> I ran make -f client.mk build
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# [20:34] <@bz> But the MOZCONFIG was an absolute path
# [20:34] <@bz> would that matter?
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# [20:35] <khuey> make -f client.mk build will do an absolute configure
# [20:35] <khuey> iirc
# [20:35] <gps> bz: why does it need to be relative? ccache foo?
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# [20:35] <@bz> gps: ideally, yes
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# [20:35] <@bz> gps: so ccache across trees works
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# [20:36] <gps> bz: CCACHE_BASEDIR?
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# [20:36] <ehsan_> cpeterson: not that I know of!
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# [20:36] <@bz> gps: hrm, that might be it
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# [20:37] <@bz> well
# [20:37] <@bz> so
# [20:37] <@bz> I have that set
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# [20:38] <@bz> It's just slower builds. :(
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# [20:40] <gps> good things builds have been getting faster lately! http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/gofaster/#/executiontime/build
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# [20:45] <_AxS_> hey all -- about to do my first try; is it really just 'hg push -f try' after adding the appropriate 'try: ' string to the commit message? ie, no collisions to worry about or any such thing?
# [20:46] <@bz> _AxS_: as long as "try" is the right repository, yes
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# [20:46] <@bz> _AxS_: What does "hg path try" show for you?
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# [20:46] <_AxS_> bz: *nod* , yeah i set up .hgrc properly for that: ssh://[user]@hg.mozilla.org/try
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# [20:47] <@bz> Then it should work fine
# [20:47] <_AxS_> sweet, tnx.
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# [20:47] <Ms2ger> That won't even break phases now
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# [20:49] <khuey> so great
# [20:49] <khuey> Callek++
# [20:50] <Ms2ger> Only took 5 years or so \o/
# [20:50] <Callek> Ms2ger: ummm, no it hasn't been 5 years
# [20:50] <Ms2ger> Callek, alright, a big "or so", then :)
# [20:50] <Callek> 2-3 at max
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# [20:50] <mbrubeck> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725362 just over 1.5 years before it was fixed
# [20:51] <mbrubeck> :)
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# [20:54] <tbsaunde> I think Ms2ger's point was just "unreasonably long"
# [20:54] <Ms2ger> Maybe not even unreasonably, I don't know why it took so long
# [20:54] <Ms2ger> Let's say that it took long
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# [20:56] <biesi_> what does "engineering-friend" mean in the status whiteboard?
# [20:56] <benjamin> how does one use gold?
# [20:56] <Ms2ger> benjamin, install it
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# [20:56] <Ms2ger> biesi_, "volunteer to be credited in a meeting", aiui
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# [20:56] <biesi_> ah
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# [20:59] <benjamin> Ms2ger: it's just used then?
# [20:59] <Ms2ger> benjamin, on Ubuntu, yes
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# [21:00] <benjamin> I suppose I can link libxul and see if it's any faster :P
# [21:00] <Ms2ger> apt-get setup a symlink here
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# [21:25] <bajaj> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907214
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# [21:26] <bajaj> jesup: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907213
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# [21:26] <bajaj> two new webrtc bugs that were recently filed by QA from Fx24 Beta 4 testing
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# [21:26] <bajaj> wanted to make sure you are aware
# [21:27] <bajaj> jesup: ^^
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# [21:38] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb767d718f4b - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 906703 - Trigger "PluginBindingAttached" before tests that use the missing plugin notification. r=jaws
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# [21:42] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef5322627c86 - David Zbarsky - Bug 879475 - Rename the MsgStart messages to MsgStartChild for child protocols r=jlebar
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# [21:46] <jaws> "'COLLAPSETOSTART_REASON' : is not a member of 'nsISelectionListener'"
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# [21:48] <bajaj> spohl: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891136
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# [21:48] <bajaj> lsblakk: is still seeing scroll bar issues on Fx24
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# [21:49] <bajaj> is it related or a fallout from 891136
# [21:49] <bajaj> ?
# [21:49] <lsblakk> spohl: specifically that there are no scrollbars for google docs themselves
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# [21:49] <lsblakk> (ie: spreadsheet)
# [21:49] <spohl> bajaj, lsblakk: right, Google Docs will still need to make changes on their end to make this work
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# [21:50] <lsblakk> spohl: is there a different bug tracking this?
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# [21:50] <lsblakk> i'm having to use chrome for google docs
# [21:50] <spohl> lsblakk: checking
# [21:50] <bajaj> spohl: is there a bug ?
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# [21:51] <spohl> lsblakk, bajaj: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891136#c19 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891136#c9
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# [21:51] <lsblakk> thanks spohl
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# [21:52] <spohl> lsblakk: np
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# [21:52] <spohl> lsblakk: bug 891136 used to be a pure evangelism bug until we had to make changes on our side as well. there isn't a dedicated evangelism bug beyond bug 891136 at this point
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# [21:53] <gabadie> Hi all! Is there a way to detect the version of mac os x at running time in C++?
# [21:53] <bajaj> spohl: is this not on the blocker list for lion scrollbar ?
# [21:53] <lsblakk> well, we can't block on TE Google bug
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# [21:53] <lsblakk> but perhaps we should raise this in mozilla-google list bajaj ?
# [21:54] <bajaj> lsblakk: that's what i was getting to..have we spoke to them?
# [21:54] <spohl> bajaj: we have (roc has). I'll forward the email
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# [21:55] <spohl> bajaj, lsblakk: forwarded the email
# [21:55] <bajaj> lsblakk: we cant block on a TE bug but this is a change on our side that is causing the breakage and this is a common enough scenario
# [21:55] <bajaj> thanks spohl
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# [22:00] <bajaj> spohl: did roc or you ever heard a reply back
# [22:00] <bajaj> ?
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# [22:00] <bajaj> spohl: since the discussion is already ongoing I don't know if it makes sense to start a new thread
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# [22:01] <bajaj> I thnk we should follow-up
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# [22:01] <spohl> bajaj: personally, I haven't heard anything back, no
# [22:01] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e6ed18f19d79 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 906101 - Move tier make logic into own .mk file and don't use from rules.mk; r=glandium
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# [22:01] <spohl> bajaj: but I agree, a follow-up might be good at this point
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# [22:02] <bajaj> ok..let me check with roc as well
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# [22:10] <mmargoliono> jaws, for that site identity popup, should I put your or mconley for the reviewer in the next patch
# [22:11] <jaws> mmargoliono: mconley
# [22:11] <mconley> sure
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# [22:14] <dzbarsky> thanks
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# [22:18] <seth> PSA: #bugs in combination with znc's watch plugin is pretty awesome
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# [22:20] <Ms2ger> seth, what's this plugin do?
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# [22:21] <seth> Ms2ger: it lets you watch for events on irc. think some combo of user, channel, and message text, with wildcards and such. so i can watch for any events in #bugs that involve me or involve things i'm interested in
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# [22:21] <Ms2ger> Neat
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# [22:33] <@ehsan> bz: fwiw there is now a discussion on the findbar issue on firefox-dev. please feel free to drop in if you have something to add :)
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# [22:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/de107e9ab150 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 899171 - Use mozprofile in the reftest harness. r=ahal
# [22:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/16eed749e8ab - Jan Beich - Bug 899722 Part 4: Prevent runConfigureICU from overriding CC/CXX on BSDs. r=glandium
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# [22:42] <nemo> So, the way firefox displays PNGs is... kind of annoying
# [22:43] <nemo> the bug on adapting background never happened, so I've been working around it locally w/ a bookmarklet
# [22:43] <nemo> http://m8y.org/bookmarklets.xhtml - last bookmarklet :-p
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# [22:51] <jlebar> Is it intentional that changing a bug's component removes its security-sensitivity flag?
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# [22:52] <jlebar> That is quite odd, since I don't have permission to change that flag otherwise.
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# [22:57] <gaston> (and even actually sort of working)
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# [23:17] <NeilAway> jlebar: component surprises me, product not quite so surprising I guess
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# [23:18] <NeilAway> aargh, this deliberate sigsegv is a pain when one happens when a popup is open
# [23:18] <NeilAway> looks like wp.com is using old source map pragmas
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# [23:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/36a2061cff79 - Ethan Hugg - Bug 863306 - Turn off rtcp-mux in config r=abr
# [23:27] <@ehsan> NeilAway: ping
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# [23:29] <botond> kats: The current #include of APZCTreeManager.h in AsyncPanZoomController.h is unnecessary, and it's currently being ignored. When these files are compiled, the translation unit includes APZCTM.h first, which includes APZC.h. Inside APZC.h, the APZCTM.h include is ignored, and code in APZC.h works fine with just the forward-declaration of ScrollableLayerGuid. This is the mess the BenWa must have been referring to :)
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# [23:31] <botond> kats: Thankfully, forward-declaring APZCTM is enough for me, suggesting that declaring an nsRefPtr<T> field in a class does not require the definition of T to be visible.
# [23:31] <kats> botond: ah, cool. bug 899336 if you want to remove the includes :)
# [23:31] <botond> kats: I'll remove the unecessary include in my patch.
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# [23:31] <kats> or you can do it in yours
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# [23:35] <philor> who busted asan?
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# [23:35] <firebot> Check-in:
# [23:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5b8cbc29a72e - Scott Johnson - Bug 746015: Add a nsDisplayGenericOverflow class that uses a frame's visual overflow rect as its bounds to correctly display column rules that lie outside of a column
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# [23:35] <firebot> set frame's bounds. [r=dbaron]
# [23:36] <sicking> jorendorff: ping
# [23:36] <jorendorff> sicking: pong
# [23:36] <sicking> jorendorff: do you have a sec to talk about binary Streams?
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# [23:36] <jorendorff> sicking: today is not great; i have 2 reviews to finish in the next hour
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# [23:36] <sicking> jorendorff: i believe you have been dubbed the local Stream expert :)
# [23:36] <jorendorff> sicking: oh no
# [23:37] <sicking> jorendorff: ok, i'll catch you later
# [23:37] <jorendorff> sicking: tomorrow then?
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# [23:37] <sicking> jorendorff: sounds good
# [23:37] <jorendorff> i have a meeting 11:30-12:30 SF time, and otherwise i'm free
# [23:37] <sicking> great
# [23:38] <sicking> i think i have the whole day free, though i'm sure that won't stick :)
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# [23:38] <philor> ehsan: oh, that'd be you breaking https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=26783223&tree=Mozilla-Central with minimize #includes
# [23:39] <@ehsan> philor: asan build?
# [23:39] <philor> yep
# [23:39] <@ehsan> yep
# [23:39] <@ehsan> cdiehl already hunted me down for it :)
# [23:39] <@ehsan> philor: I have a fix, cdiehl is testing it
# [23:39] <@ehsan> sorry!
# [23:39] <@ehsan> cdiehl: how did that build go?
# [23:39] <cdiehl> sorry still running
# [23:39] <philor> np, I just never expect anyone else to see hidden bustage
# [23:40] <@ehsan> cdiehl: all you should check is whether layout/base/nsPresArena.cpp builds with it, right?
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# [23:40] <cdiehl> yea sorry sorry, did a make -sf client.mk build
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# [23:43] <@smaug> hmm, what is [u= c= p=0] in the whiteboard?
# [23:43] <mwargers> jonas, ping, are you able to review my patch in bug 901343?
# [23:43] <mwargers> er
# [23:43] <mwargers> sicking, ping, are you able to review my patch in bug 901343?
# [23:43] <sicking> mwargers: looking
# [23:44] <mwargers> thanks
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# [23:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/22acef5e2878 - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 906790 follow-up: Unbreak ASAN builds
# [23:45] <nemo> http://www.zerohedge.com/node/477785
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# [23:45] <sicking> mwargers: why the change from SpecialPowers.createSystemXHR to XMLHttpRequest({mozAnon: false, mozSystem: true})?
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# [23:45] <botond> kats: Having introduced a cycle between APZC and APZCTM, how do I make sure it doesn't leak? Some sort of NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION macros?
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# [23:46] <mwargers> sicking, SpecialPowers.createSystemXHR doesn't seem to work in b2g
# [23:46] <sicking> mwargers: that seems like something we need to fix, no?
# [23:46] <kats> botond: yeah. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Interfacing_with_the_XPCOM_cycle_collector
# [23:46] <gavin> NeilAway: can you r+ https://bug895957.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=790920 ?
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# [23:47] <mwargers> sicking, well, that would be fine by me too. But isn't XMLHttpRequest({mozAnon: false, mozSystem: true}) doing the same then?
# [23:47] <@smaug> botond: are APZC and APZCTM used only in one thread?
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# [23:48] <@smaug> cycle collector is single thread only
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# [23:48] <botond> smaug: I believe they are only constructed in a single thread, but some methods of them can be called on other threads. kats can confirm
# [23:48] <sicking> mwargers: The differences aren't that big. Things like cookies and file:// access is different but probably doesn't matter here. But I'd imagine that if SpecialPowers.createSystemXHR is broken then other SpecialPowers things might be broken too
# [23:49] <@smaug> addref/release in multiple threads is definitely no-no
# [23:49] <kats> botond: smaug: oh that's a good point. i'm not 100% sure all references to them are on the same thread
# [23:49] <@smaug> also, we currently have cycle collector for main thread and workers
# [23:49] <sicking> mwargers: and it means that you have to add additional permissions which is nice to avoid
# [23:50] <kats> botond: smaug: i believe the APZCs are destroyed on the compositor thread actually
# [23:50] <kats> so cycle collection might not work for them
# [23:50] <botond> kats: cycle collection only works on the main thread?
# [23:50] <@smaug> if multiple threads are involved, then something manual is needed to break the cycle
# [23:50] <sicking> mwargers: at the very least undersatnding why SpecialPowers is broken sounds like a good idea
# [23:50] <mwargers> sicking, well, mochitests are used for testing, so we would test these permissions would work
# [23:50] <@smaug> cycle collector is currently for main thread and workers
# [23:51] <@smaug> ('new Worker()' stuff in JS)
# [23:51] <sicking> mwargers: i think we have tests for those permissions already
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# [23:51] <mwargers> sicking, that's fine by me, I have no idea why it's not working
# [23:51] <sicking> mwargers: would you be able to look?
# [23:51] <mwargers> sicking, something to do with network channels in child processes or something?
# [23:52] <sicking> mwargers: oooooh…
# [23:52] <mwargers> sicking, I can look, by my brain wouldn't parse
# [23:52] <botond> kats: In that case... should we just have plain pointerse for back-pointers? Or is there an alternative approach to managing cycles on non-main threads?
# [23:53] <sicking> mwargers: yeah, i think i know what's going on
# [23:53] <@smaug> manually break the cycle when we know nothing from outside needs to keep the objects alive?
# [23:53] <mwargers> sicking, ok, cool
# [23:53] <kats> botond: i'm not sure what the best approach is here. we could go with just plain pointers but we should make it explicit that the APZCTM "owns" the APZC instances and nobody else is allowed to reference them, otherwise we could end up with leaks
# [23:54] <@smaug> worse than leaks is use of deleted objects
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# [23:55] <@smaug> so if you use raw pointers and not refcounting, be careful
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# [23:55] <@smaug> (we've had tons of security bugs because of use of raw pointers)
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# [23:56] <kats> botond: i guess the APZCTM owns the lifetime of the APZC, so we can null out the back-pointer in the APZC::Destroy() function, which should make it safer
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# [23:56] <tbsaunde> froydnj: fwiw http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58207
# [23:56] <botond> kats: that sounds good
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