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# [00:22] <jwatt> dholbert: bug 649440 - did you ever understand _why_ we'd do that for VectorImage::InvalidateObserver?
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# [00:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b2ad58e8b248 - Brian Hackett - Bug 864928 - Remove ScriptAnalysis::analyzeTypes, r=jandem.
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# [00:42] <+dholbert> understand why we'd fire OnStopFrame?
# [00:42] <+dholbert> jwatt, (^)
# [00:43] <jwatt> dholbert: at that particular location
# [00:43] <jwatt> dholbert: I'm in the process of filing a bug
# [00:43] <+dholbert> jwatt, gotcha
# [00:43] <+dholbert> jwatt, because a rendering change means we have a "new frame" of animation
# [00:43] <jwatt> dholbert: I'll CC you and expand on why I think that's bad there
# [00:43] <+dholbert> ok
# [00:44] <+dholbert> jwatt, gtg. (holiday in US today) I'll follow up on the bug later tonight or tomorrow. thanks!
# [00:44] <jwatt> dholbert: enjoy!
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# [00:46] <@roc> jwatt: hey, I realized that the way SVG images monitor invalidation due to animation is wrong
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# [00:48] <jwatt> roc: you mean the same thing I'm talking about above? i.e. the imgDecoderObserver::OnStopFrame() call happens way too early? or something else?
# [00:48] <@roc> something else
# [00:49] <@roc> we use rendering observers
# [00:49] <jwatt> yeah
# [00:49] <jwatt> that kinda sucks too
# [00:49] <@roc> but that doesn't catch CSS animations or animated raster images
# [00:49] <jwatt> indeed
# [00:49] <@roc> so what I'm doing for animated SVG fonts is to monitor the nsRefreshDriver of the SVG document
# [00:49] <jwatt> we should do something like what you said in your email with mattwoodrow
# [00:50] <@roc> see bug 906643
# [00:50] <jwatt> although that doesn't help the case that I was talking about in my question to mattwoodrow
# [00:50] <jwatt> cool
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# [01:16] <nrc> njn: did you ahve a script for generating include graphs?
# [01:17] <@njn> nrc: I did, but I may have lost it. let me look
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# [01:18] <@njn> nrc: yeah, I think it's gone. It was never that much use; the graphs are always enormous, and it's hard to glean useful info from them
# [01:18] <@njn> nrc: what questions are you hoping to answer?
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# [01:20] <nrc> njn: so I have data on total size for each header file post-processing and I want to be able to identify where the big offenders are - e.g., if I have A.h and B.h and there are both huge, but B is only big because of A, then I want to be able to identify A as the culprit
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# [01:20] <nrc> also, how often each header is used - even if some header is enormous, there is no point working on that if it is only used once
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# [01:21] <@njn> nrc: and if you identify a "big offender", then what?
# [01:21] <nrc> try and make it less of an offender
# [01:21] <@njn> nrc: I don't quite understand yet... what metric are you trying to reduce?
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# [01:22] <@njn> total lines of code that run through the compiler, perhaps?
# [01:22] <nrc> build times, indirectly - I figure that size is a fairly good stand in metric for complexity and thus time
# [01:22] <nrc> right
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# [01:24] <@njn> nrc: getting your metric clear helps, I think
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# [01:27] <nrc> true
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# [01:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7ce923b4b074 - Dan Gohman - Bug 910782 - SpiderMonkey: Eliminate the ADD_EMPTY_CASE macro. r=luke
# [01:43] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c913196e053f - Dan Gohman - Bug 910782 - SpiderMonkey: Various macro cleanups. r=luke
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# [01:49] <@smaug> odd looking assembly. Almost like we compile Nightlies with DEBUG+opt
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# [01:54] <jwatt> roc: where is the logic that takes the invalidation of the frames in the glyph document, and passes it up to the document that references that document?
# [01:55] <jwatt> not being familiar with how many of these pieces interact, it's not obvious to me
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# [01:58] <jwatt> roc: nm, I get it
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# [02:04] <@smaug> oh, #if (defined(DEBUG) || defined(NIGHTLY_BUILD)) && !defined(XPCOM_GLUE_AVOID_NSPR)
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# [02:04] <@smaug> khuey|away: that ruins all the profiling on nightlies!
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# [02:19] <@khuey> smaug: profiling is overrated ;-)
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# [02:21] <@smaug> sure
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# [02:21] <@khuey> smaug: does making it conditional on --enable-profiling sound like a reasonable solution?
# [02:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b18931c53a48 - Dan Gohman - Bug 910814 - SpiderMonkey: Disable errno for math functions. r=glandium
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# [02:21] <@smaug> khuey: the only thing MoCo has bought me is Zoom profiler ;)
# [02:22] <@smaug> khuey: hmm, I don't know what --enable-profiling does otherwise
# [02:22] <@smaug> what all does it enable
# [02:22] <@khuey> you should ask us to buy you more stuff
# [02:22] <@khuey> smaug: turns on frame pointers iirc
# [02:22] <@khuey> maybe some other stuff
# [02:23] <@khuey> smaug: you should ask MoCo to buy you more stuff ;-)
# [02:24] <@smaug> enable-profiling is probably ok, although it would be nice to be able to get somewhat sane profiles from Nightlies too
# [02:24] <@khuey> --enable-profiling is set on nightlies iirc
# [02:24] <@smaug> oh
# [02:24] <glandium> smaug: what's the problem?
# [02:24] <@khuey> I made smaug sad
# [02:24] <@smaug> khuey: well, then I don't understand what you want
# [02:24] <glandium> khuey: what did you do?
# [02:25] <@smaug> glandium: khuey made Addref/Release slow on Nightlies
# [02:25] <@khuey> glandium: turned on threadsafety assertions in opt builds
# [02:25] <@smaug> Bug 907914
# [02:25] <glandium> ah, that
# [02:25] <@khuey> smaug: I want b2g developers to notice when they screw up threads
# [02:25] <@smaug> ah, I see
# [02:25] <@khuey> and since non of them build debug builds ...
# [02:25] <@smaug> khuey: and profiling isn't enabled there
# [02:25] <@khuey> right
# [02:25] <@smaug> ok, sounds good then
# [02:25] <@khuey> it's not enabled on desktop for normal opt builds either
# [02:26] <@khuey> just for nightly
# [02:26] <glandium> uh, i think they do enable profiling
# [02:26] <@khuey> glandium: I didn't see it in the mozconfig
# [02:26] <glandium> khuey: haha, you think they use the in-tree mozconfig?
# [02:27] <@khuey> glandium: *sigh*
# [02:27] <@smaug> oh dear
# [02:27] <glandium> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gonk-misc/blob/master/default-gecko-config apparently, it's disabled
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# [02:34] <+daleharvey> what test mechanism should I be using when testing the accuracy of generated events
# [02:35] <@smaug> daleharvey: accuracy in which way?
# [02:35] <@smaug> and what events?
# [02:35] <+daleharvey> I am trying to to the event-fluffing / PositionedEventTargeting.cpp that retargets mouse / touch events
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# [02:36] <+daleharvey> *trying to test
# [02:36] <@smaug> so DOMWindowUtils can send events to widget level
# [02:36] <@smaug> which then dispatches them through presshell/hittesting
# [02:37] <@smaug> EventUtils.js should have some helper methods for testing
# [02:37] <+daleharvey> sweet cheers
# [02:37] <@smaug> something like synthesizeMouseAtPoint
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# [02:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/56d4d6be7442 - Karl Tomlinson - b=911777 disable test_delayNodeAtMax.html on Ubuntu(|64) opt builds
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# [03:28] <@njn> are JS shell and/or browser builds crawling for anyone? they're really slow for me today, and I don't know if it's something wrong with my machine, or something's wrong with the code
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# [03:38] <glandium> njn: are you using ccache?
# [03:38] <@njn> glandium: I'm using a mix
# [03:38] <@njn> glandium: seems to be slow either way
# [03:38] <glandium> njn: check the ccache hit rate
# [03:39] <@njn> glandium: its not bad, 50%
# [03:39] <@njn> glandium: my non-ccache builds are really slow
# [03:39] <@njn> like, 4x slower for shell build, 3x slower for browser
# [03:39] <glandium> njn: also check if there aren't any obviously redundant things in the logs
# [03:39] <@njn> glandium: there aren't
# [03:39] <glandium> 4x slower? O_o
# [03:39] <@njn> yeah, exactly!
# [03:39] <glandium> m-c?
# [03:39] <@njn> m-i
# [03:40] <@njn> glandium: benjamin said his shell builds were also slow, but I'm wondering if it's my machine somehow
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# [03:40] <@njn> this browser build is up to 48 minutes, it should have finished in ~20
# [03:42] <glandium> njn: clobber build?
# [03:42] <@njn> glandium: yes
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# [03:43] <glandium> njn: let's see how long one takes for me. i needed to do one anyways
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# [03:44] <@khuey> njn: how do I make -Woverloaded-virtual warnings go away?
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# [03:44] <glandium> khuey: -Wno-overloaded-virtual /o\
# [03:44] <@khuey> heh
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# [03:47] <glandium> khuey: is that actually safe nowadays? i know that used to be compiler-dependent
# [03:48] <@njn> khuey: that's one warning I've never got the hang of
# [03:49] <glandium> khuey: we do have a couple #pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-Woverloaded-virtual" in the tree
# [03:49] <glandium> erf, breakpad even goes as far as doing -Werror=overloaded-virtual
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# [03:50] <jcranmer> you mean -Werror isn't a good thing? :-)
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# [03:50] <jcranmer> -ansi -pedantic -Wall -Weverything -Werror... what could go wrong :-)
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# [03:53] <@khuey> -Werror is terrible
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# [03:54] <@njn> glandium: I'm up to 61 minutes for my browser build, not even close to finishing yet :(
# [03:54] <glandium> njn: are you using mach?
# [03:55] <@njn> glandium: yes
# [03:55] <glandium> njn: what does the statusbar look like currently?
# [03:55] <@njn> glandium: but the shell builds don't
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# [03:55] <@njn> glandium: what is the statusbar?
# [03:55] <glandium> njn: the line that mach puts telling you what tier, subtier and directory is building
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# [03:56] <@njn> glandium: I don't know where that line is
# [03:57] <glandium> njn: on mach output
# [03:57] <@njn> glandium: I still don't know where it is
# [03:57] <@njn> glandium: is this one line printed among the many?
# [03:58] <glandium> it's always printed
# [03:58] <glandium> at the bottom
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# [03:58] <@njn> glandium: ???
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# [03:59] <@njn> I have no idea what that is. I build with |mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j8 --quiet --no-print-directory"|, is that relevant?
# [03:59] <glandium> no
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# [03:59] <@njn> glandium: can you paste an example of this statusbar?
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# [03:59] <glandium> njn: http://i.imgur.com/eLZBMKM.png
# [04:00] <@njn> glandium: I have never seen that before
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# [04:00] <glandium> O_o
# [04:00] <capella> hehe
# [04:00] <glandium> are you redirecting mach's output?
# [04:00] <@njn> yes
# [04:00] <glandium> that'd explain it
# [04:00] <@njn> indeed
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# [04:01] <glandium> fwiw, i think my build is on track to finish in s normal time
# [04:02] <glandium> (current m-i with no patch, no ccache, clobber)
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# [04:03] <@njn> glandium: ok, thanks
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# [04:03] <@njn> glandium: once it's done, let me know for sure, and I'll try rebooting, see if that helps
# [04:03] <@njn> even though I turned the machine off last night...
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# [04:11] <glandium> njn: yeah, i got a normal build time
# [04:11] <@njn> glandium: k, thx
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# [04:21] <@njn> glandium: it's working normally again. I bet I know what happened. Last night I turned the machine off, but forgot do a hard power-off. I bet some lingering state in the hardware somewhere screwed something up.
# [04:21] <@njn> glandium: I've seen that happen with my network performance before
# [04:22] <glandium> weird
# [04:22] <@njn> yeah
# [04:22] <@njn> but it's fixed, so I'm happy
# [04:23] <@njn> glandium: failing to hard-power-off also screws with my bluetooth wireless keyboard
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# [04:25] <glandium> i wish make would instantly fail with -jN when there's an error
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# [04:28] <@njn> glandium: it's weird how sometimes it goes on an on for ages
# [04:28] <glandium> njn: it's not weird when you know why that happens, but it surely is annoying
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# [04:28] <@njn> glandium: why does it happen?
# [04:29] <glandium> njn: essentially because each parallel make wants to finish what it's doing
# [04:30] <glandium> even if that means building 100 files
# [04:30] <glandium> the problem is how parallel make works with submake invocation
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# [04:31] <glandium> nothing that shouldn't be fixable, btw
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# [04:34] <bjacob__> hey, i have trouble telling mach to build only 1 subdir (gfx)
# [04:34] <bjacob__> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2961973
# [04:34] <bjacob__> the line is
# [04:34] <bjacob__> $(eval $(subst ||,$(CR),$(shell _PYMAKE=$(.PYMAKE) $(top)/$(MOZCONFIG_LOADER) $(top) 2> $(top)/.mozconfig.out | sed 's/$$/||/')))
# [04:34] <bjacob__> in mozconfig.mk:33
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# [04:35] <bjacob__> this gives me the same error, actually:
# [04:35] <bjacob__> make -s -j8 -C obj-firefox-debug/gfx
# [04:35] * @khuey needs an intern just to make his patches compile on gcc
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# [04:37] <reuben> https://www.mturk.com/mturk/
# [04:39] <bjacob__> if i comment out that line in mozconfig.mk:33 , then my partial rebuilds just work
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# [04:43] <reuben> # As $(shell) doesn't preserve newlines, use sed to replace them with an # unlikely sequence (||), which is then replaced back to newlines by make # before evaluation.
# [04:43] <reuben> is this real life
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# [04:45] <bjacob__> reuben: the alternative is rm -rf / so that what happens next doesn't matter anyway
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# [05:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a49fe403e10 - Joshua Cranmer - Bug 910540 - Add moz.build logic for major library variables, r=glandium.
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# [07:29] <glandium> nokia is dead
# [07:29] <@roc> really?
# [07:30] <glandium> roc: MS is buying its phone activities
# [07:30] <@roc> yes
# [07:31] <@roc> oh, you mean the part of Nokia that isn't part of MS is dead
# [07:31] <jcranmer> there's such a part?
# [07:31] <@roc> yes
# [07:31] <glandium> jcranmer: they're doing firewalls, at least
# [07:31] <KWierso> the mapping stuff is still up
# [07:31] <+doublec> here maps, patent portfolio, network services, r&d
# [07:31] <@roc> there's the patent troll part
# [07:31] <qDot> Their maps are on our phone. \o/
# [07:31] <@roc> and the apps and services part
# [07:32] <qDot> Though the maps is kind of a big part, since they own Navteq.
# [07:32] <jcranmer> so, which part is the part that timeless works (worked?) for
# [07:32] <qDot> Not cellphone big, but big.
# [07:32] <@roc> Nokia shareholders would have to wonder about Stephen Elop. 1) Leave Microsoft for Nokia. 2) Shut down Nokia's own platform work and adopt Microsoft's instead. 3) Run share price into ground. 4) Microsoft buys Nokia cheap 5) Elop back at Microsoft, mission accomplished.
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# [07:33] <glandium> roc: even better, he's rumoured to be in good place to take Ballmer's succession
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# [07:35] <ewong> that's a cunning plan...
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# [07:41] <+efaust> ewong: is it so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel?
# [07:41] <ewong> efaust lol
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# [08:05] <glandium> we're good to use auto, right?
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# [08:11] <glandium> oh my... icu uses rtti
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# [08:25] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
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# [08:31] <@khuey> uh oh
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# [08:31] <glandium> khuey: because ms2ger is here?
# [08:31] <@khuey> because if europe is awake it's too late here
# [08:31] <Ms2ger> That must mean it's getting close to midnight
# [08:32] <@khuey> yeah
# [08:32] <Ms2ger> khuey, mm, exceptions
# [08:32] <+efaust> plenty of time yet
# [08:32] <@khuey> Ms2ger: getting close
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# [08:32] <@khuey> just need to write a threadsafe version of xpc::AccessCheck::isChrome
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# [08:34] <glandium> khuey: probably not the right time of day to do that ;)
# [08:34] <Ms2ger> Ha
# [08:34] <Ms2ger> Don't tell bent and/or bholley
# [08:35] <@khuey> glandium: nah, it's easy
# [08:35] <@khuey> ThreadsafeBlah() {
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# [08:35] <@khuey> return WorkerthreadBlah();
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# [08:35] <@khuey> we should write a template for this
# [08:35] <@khuey> call X on the main thread or Y off
# [08:35] <@khuey> it is, however, too late to write templates
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# [08:36] <Ms2ger> Definitely
# [08:36] <glandium> it's never a right time to write templates
# [08:36] <@khuey> indeed
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# [08:47] <ewong> I need to install the whole Windows 7 SDK in order just to get the windbg app?
# [08:48] <Manishearth> ewong: Wh not use ollydbg?y
# [08:48] <Manishearth> *why
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# [08:53] <Ms2ger> Wait, MS bought Nokia?
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# [08:54] <glandium> Ms2ger: most of it, yes
# [08:54] <KWierso> is buying*
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# [09:24] <glandium> NeilAway: he went away before i could point him at the corresponding bug
# [09:25] <NeilAway> glandium: do you have a bug# I think RattyAway was hitting the same problem
# [09:26] <glandium> NeilAway: 911634 ; and there's now a patch in the bug
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# [09:28] <NeilAway> glandium: ta
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# [09:32] <@khuey> Ms2ger: have you looked into reducing BindingUtils.h includes?
# [09:32] <mjrosenb|ARM> odd, I keep ending up with empty patches
# [09:32] <mjrosenb|ARM> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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# [09:32] * mjrosenb|ARM will figure it out soon enough
# [09:33] <Ms2ger> khuey, not much
# [09:33] <@khuey> somehow it's ending up in nsPresShell.cpp :-/
# [09:33] <Ms2ger> khuey, I did look at the CallbackThing.h, but that was somewhat hard
# [09:33] <Ms2ger> Ah
# [09:33] <Ms2ger> That way
# [09:33] <@khuey> among many other places
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# [09:34] <Ms2ger> I though I landed most of those...
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# [09:34] <Ms2ger> khuey, it's not ending up in DocumentBinding.h, is it?
# [09:34] <Ms2ger> Hrm
# [09:35] <@khuey> Ms2ger: no
# [09:35] <@khuey> unless ErrorResult.h includes it
# [09:35] <Ms2ger> No
# [09:35] * @khuey will stab someone if that is the case
# [09:35] <Ms2ger> Gah
# [09:35] <Ms2ger> I didn't land those patches
# [09:35] <@khuey> :-P
# [09:36] <Ms2ger> Bug 909003
# [09:36] <Ms2ger> I'll try to land them tomorrow or so
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# [09:43] <@khuey> oh nice, my browser starts up now
# [09:43] <@khuey> seems like a good place to quit
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# [09:44] <Ms2ger> Good night :)
# [09:45] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: Do you think you're going to get to look at those remaining editor failures today? :)
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# [09:46] <Ms2ger> mrbkap, actually, I already pushed to try :)
# [09:46] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: nice!
# [09:46] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: I was in your city yesterday, btw.
# [09:46] <Ms2ger> Oh?
# [09:46] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: well, peterv's city, not sure which of you owns it.
# [09:47] <Ms2ger> We're usually fine sharing it between the two of us
# [09:47] <mrbkap> Yeah, I'm killing a few days before going on PTO, so I stopped by.
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# [09:49] <Ms2ger> I'll wave if I pass through :)
# [09:49] <mrbkap> Sounds good :)
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# [09:50] <heycam> Ms2ger, am now
# [09:51] <Ms2ger> heycam, did you ever deal with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860841 on the spec side?
# [09:52] <heycam> Ms2ger, not yet. hopefully soon; back to Web IDL work in a week or two.
# [09:54] <heycam> I really need a way to remember which email address I use on a particular Persona-enabled site
# [09:54] <heycam> forgot which one I used on mozillians.org. logged in with my @mozilla.com address -- surprise! now I have two accounts. :)
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# [09:55] <Ms2ger> heycam, easy, never use the moco account? ;)
# [09:55] <heycam> yeah, I shouldn't have tried it first :)
# [09:56] <Ms2ger> heycam, do you need a bug to track that?
# [09:56] <heycam> the interface thing?
# [09:56] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [09:56] <heycam> is there not one already?
# [09:56] <heycam> maybe I'm just thinking of the bmo bug
# [09:56] <Ms2ger> I didn't find one
# [09:56] <heycam> feel free to file one if you want; I've got it in my local notes tho
# [09:57] <Ms2ger> Okay
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# [10:08] <NeilAway> jcranmer|away: I considered creating an equivalent for nsCOMArray
# [10:09] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, another array?
# [10:09] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: no, an equivalent of forget()
# [10:09] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: so you could say *aLength = myArray.forget(aOutArray);
# [10:10] <Ms2ger> Mmm, that would be nice
# [10:10] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: actually I did consider writing a new array too
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# [10:10] <Ms2ger> Nicer would be to make xpidl arrays sane, but...
# [10:10] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: it was loosely based on nsSmallVoidArray so you could put one element in it cheaply
# [10:10] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: but it was only useful on the stack
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# [10:13] <ewong> NeilAway debugging a crash in SeaMonkey (which doesn't go to about:crash)
# [10:13] <NeilAway> ewong: on a non-dev machine I take it?
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# [10:14] <ewong> NeilAway no.. on a dev machine..
# [10:14] <NeilAway> ewong: so how did you manage to set it up without either visual studio or an sdk?
# [10:15] <ewong> NeilAway I have VS and sdk on this machine..
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# [10:18] <ewong> does anyone know how to specify the command arguments in windbg?
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# [10:18] <NeilAway> ewong: well, if I've understood correctly, you can go to the sdk setup in add/remove programs and add in WinDbg if you didn't already install it
# [10:18] <NeilAway> ewong: which command arguments do you need?
# [10:18] <ewong> NeilAway -no-remote -console -P test2
# [10:19] <NeilAway> ewong: if you're using File - Open Executable then there are fields for the arguments and start directory
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# [11:04] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: Do you know if someone's filed a bug on the w3 dcvs pages including http://.../Icons/w3c_home instead of https://...?
# [11:04] <Ms2ger> Which pages? Those probably need to be fixed on a spec-by-spec bases
# [11:05] <Ms2ger> basis
# [11:05] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: oh, ok.
# [11:05] * mrbkap kinda assumed that that was auto generated.
# [11:05] <mrbkap> Ms2ger: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/custom/index.html in this case.
# [11:05] <Ms2ger> Anolis uses https
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# [11:06] <Ms2ger> No idea how that spec is written
# [11:06] <Ms2ger> Might even be hand-written
# [11:07] <annevk_> I think dglazkov had some script
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# [11:07] <annevk> Should probably get that public somewhere...
# [11:08] <Ms2ger> That would be good
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# [11:39] <robertbindar> does anyone know why I can't use the "WebSocket" object in an xpcshell test from netwerk/ ?
# [11:39] <Ms2ger> Because you're in an xpcshell test?
# [11:40] <Ms2ger> In general, DOM APIs aren't exposed to xpcshell
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# [11:41] <robertbindar> I'm new in testing, sorry for the stupid question:D
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# [11:41] <robertbindar> Ms2ger: still, do you know another way to pen a websocket?
# [11:43] <Ms2ger> Make your test run in the full browser
# [11:43] <Ms2ger> Mochitest, probably
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# [12:11] <robertbindar> Ms2ger: ty
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# [12:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/450e1ff4c0f6 - Peter Van der Beken - Bug 908997 - Simplify XPathEvaluator - remove nsIXPathEvaluatorInternal. r=bz.
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# [12:48] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a90c62555235 - Jeff Walden - Bug 730805 - Provide mozilla/IntegerPrintfMacros.h to implement the PRI* macros portion of the <inttypes.h> interface. r=espindola
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# [12:52] <Ms2ger> jaoo, yt?
# [12:52] <jaoo> Ms2ger: hey!
# [12:52] <Ms2ger> So about the CC
# [12:53] <jaoo> Ms2ger: yes
# [12:53] <Ms2ger> You're getting added to the CC in any case, because Voicemail inherits from nsDOMEventTargetHelper
# [12:53] <jaoo> Ms2ger: I realize I have to learn more about CC.
# [12:54] <Ms2ger> And right now, you're basically implementing all the CC methods by just calling the superclass implementation
# [12:54] <jaoo> Ms2ger: Oh, i see.
# [12:55] <Ms2ger> Actually
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# [12:55] <Ms2ger> It doesn't even have a cycle collection class
# [12:55] * Ms2ger wonders how that works
# [12:56] <jaoo> Ms2ger: but what about the previous implementation? I mean, why we had all the implementation of the QueryInterface, AddRef, and Release functions through the macros.
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> Previously, we had to make sure QI replied to nsIDOMMozVoicemail/classinfo
# [12:57] <Ms2ger> But since those are both gone, your QI implementation only forwards to the superclass as well
# [12:58] <jaoo> Ms2ger: gotcha
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# [12:58] <jaoo> Ms2ger: you said that you wonder how that works...Is there anything wrong that I don't see?
# [12:59] <Ms2ger> To really work, CC'd classes need an inner class that deals with the traversal/unlink logic
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# [13:00] <Ms2ger> But Voicemail doesn't have one
# [13:00] <Ms2ger> So it surprised me that NS_INTERFACE_MAP_BEGIN_CYCLE_COLLECTION_INHERITED compiled
# [13:00] <Ms2ger> smaug, ^
# [13:00] <Ms2ger> jaoo, nothing for you to worry about though, since you're removing that anyway :)
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# [13:01] <jaoo> Ms2ger: oh, things are getting more and more difficult to me...I need to study... ;)
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# [13:01] <peterv> Ms2ger: it'll pick up the one from nsDOMEventTargetHelper
# [13:01] <Ms2ger> peterv, do we want it to?
# [13:01] <peterv> not really
# [13:02] * Ms2ger hopes for some mccr8 magic to disallow it, then
# [13:02] <peterv> Ms2ger: you'd have to hide the base's NS_CYCLE_COLLECTION_INNERCLASS from the derived class
# [13:02] <peterv> Ms2ger: which might not be trivial
# [13:02] <Ms2ger> Mm
# [13:03] <Ms2ger> I didn't realize that "Voicemail::cycleCollection" would pick up "nsDOMEventTargetHelper::cycleCollection"
# [13:03] <peterv> Ms2ger: since you need to call to it from the derived class' INNERCLASS
# [13:03] <Ms2ger> But then again, it's C++
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# [13:05] <jaoo> Ms2ger: thanks for your reply here, do I reset the ni? from the bug?
# [13:05] <Ms2ger> I'll do it
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# [13:06] <jaoo> Ms2ger: Thanks, I've found a video about CC from khuey that I should watch...;
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# [13:07] <Ms2ger> Probably still in an open tab somewhere
# [13:07] <jaoo> Ms2ger: lol
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# [13:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8b82a374ece5 - Paul Rouget - Bug 777972 - [responsive mode] translate click events to touch events. r=mratcliffe
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# [13:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/daebcfc9338b - Nick Fitzgerald - Bug 908913 - integrate escodegen with devtools; r=robcee,gps,dcamp
# [13:11] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0169b1c99f31 - Ed Morley - Merge mozilla-central and fx-team
# [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/acd1d8427718 - Paul Rouget - Bug 777972 - [responsive mode] translate click events to touch events. r=smaug
# [13:12] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7ff96bd19c1c - Ed Morley - Merge latest green fx-team changeset and mozilla-central
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# [13:17] <darktrojan> I keep getting empty dialog window frames on Linux, has anyone else noticed this?
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# [13:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/61788b5c3d55 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 911085 - Workers postMessage has to set its return value, r=mrbkap
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# [13:24] <@smaug> whaat, I changed .mozconfig yet nothing got rebuilt
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# [13:32] <NeilAway> smaug: iirc it got removed from GLOBAL_DEPS
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# [14:21] <froydnj> smaug: I think there's a bug open on that; that behavior might even be deliberate
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# [14:26] <@smaug> froydnj: I'm sure it is on purpose, but it is still very odd
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# [14:26] <@smaug> you have .mozconfig and do a make -f client.mk build, but don't get the build you want
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# [14:28] <froydnj> smaug: bug 762358
# [14:28] <froydnj> smaug: looks like glandium is fixing it
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# [14:29] <glandium> froydnj: am i?
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# [14:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/00c47683de8d - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 677638 - MessagePorts in Structured Clone Algorithm, r=smaug
# [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fdefdd5262d0 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 677638 - MessagePort.PostMessage
# [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af0ceeb42bf2 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 677638 - Start() method
# [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/731e32ded82e - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 677638 - cycle collection and timeout, r=smaug
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# [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7c90e8e1b481 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 677638 - MessageChannel and MessagePort disabled by pref, r=smaug
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# [14:36] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3f261800748f - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 677638 - Patch 1 - MessageChannel and MessagePort interfaces, r=smaug
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# [14:41] <reuben> that's some pretty poor naming :|
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# [14:43] <RyanVM> yep
# [14:43] <RyanVM> reuben: really wish more reviewers got on people about that
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# [14:44] <Ms2ger> reuben, which?
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# [14:46] <reuben> Ms2ger: bug 677638. https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/pushloghtml
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# [14:46] <Ms2ger> Which part of it?
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# [14:47] <Yoric> Well, "Start() method" is also very meaningful.
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# [14:47] <Ms2ger> Yeah
# [14:47] <reuben> missing r= in two of the commits, inconsistent numbering of patches, inconsistent case…
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# [14:48] <baku> Ms2ger, here
# [14:48] <Ms2ger> People don't like your commit messages :)
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# [14:48] <baku> reuben, Ms2ger yeah... sorry :/
# [14:48] <baku> I can fix them
# [14:48] <@smaug> they are just fine. They have bug#
# [14:48] <baku> smaug, ++
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# [14:50] <@smaug> I thought one couldn't push without r=
# [14:50] <reuben> nope. the r= hook is a myth
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# [15:35] <petruta> Hi! Does anyone know if the option "Print to file" is available on Mac OS? Thanks
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# [15:39] <@smaug> petruta: it should be available in the OSX print dialog
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# [15:40] <@smaug> (at least was when I last time used OSX couple of years ago)
# [15:40] <glob> petruta, file -> print -> pdf -> save as pdf (or postscript)
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# [15:41] <petruta> thanks smaug and glob; that's all I could find too
# [15:41] <glob> petruta, were you expecting more?
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# [15:42] <petruta> glob, I thought I could see the option, just like on Linux or Windows
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# [15:44] <jonno643> so i built ff for the first time ever
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# [15:44] <jonno643> and I was surprised to see chromium code being used in it
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# [15:45] <jonno643> what is actually up with that?
# [15:46] <Ms2ger> We imported some multi-process code from them long ago
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# [15:48] <jonno643> is that related to plugin-container.exe?
# [15:48] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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# [15:49] <jonno643> cool. So will ff have a process per tab eventually?
# [15:49] <Ms2ger> Possibly
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# [15:51] <jonno643> So my firefox sometimes freezes the UI for a few seconds when I have many tabs open. Can I use stable release build symbols to get some callstacks, try to figure out what the cause is?
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# [15:53] <@smaug> jonno643: yes. You can run a profiler while that happens
# [15:53] <@smaug> one option is Gecko profiler
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# [15:53] <@smaug> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler
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# [15:54] <@smaug> oh, release builds have only pseudo stack
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# [15:54] <@smaug> those aren't too useful
# [15:54] <@smaug> but still, may give some hints
# [15:54] <jonno643> what does that mean? not proper symbols?
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# [15:55] <@smaug> jonno643: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Performance/Profiling_with_the_Built-in_Profiler#Pseudostack
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# [15:56] <@smaug> jonno643: do you have some addons?
# [15:56] <jonno643> yeah. it's tough tracking down which one might be a cause though
# [15:56] <@smaug> jonno643: well, try first disabling all to see if it helps
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# [15:58] <jonno643> even with all addons disabled I think I've seen it happen. But without a consistent repro it's pretty hard to track down
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# [15:58] <@smaug> jonno643: which OS are you using?
# [15:58] <jonno643> windows
# [15:58] <jonno643> Seems like pseudostacks are a compromise due to supporting many platforms. could probably get better stacks on Windows
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# [15:59] <@smaug> jonno643: you could try a Nightly build on windows to get better stacks
# [15:59] <@smaug> at least based on that MDN page
# [15:59] <jonno643> true
# [15:59] <@smaug> BenWa would know better
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# [16:00] <Pike> gcp: what's our minimal python requirement on central? Wondering if I can use conditional expressions (i.e. 2.5+ )
# [16:02] <Yoric> For once, I am launching the downloaded Firefox Nightly from the command line. How do I get all the command-line output that I generally have when I launch my home-built version?
# [16:02] <@smaug> Pike: do you want gps not gcp ?
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# [16:04] <+daleharvey> having problems running mochitests with ./mach off a fresh build
# [16:04] <+daleharvey> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912026
# [16:04] <+daleharvey> ImportError: No module named automation
# [16:04] <Pike> probably
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# [16:04] <Pike> I need directions, too
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# [16:05] <@bz> Does Arun read bugmail?
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# [16:06] <till> so why exactly where there fennecs at our HQ?
# [16:06] <NeilAway> Pike: 2.7, no?
# [16:06] <jonno643> wow I just tried mochitests on my machine and windows firewall popped up
# [16:06] <till> note that I'm certainly not opposed to that happening
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# [16:07] <Pike> NeilAway: at least mach requires that, just dug that one up in the source
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# [16:09] <jonno643> daleharvey: I just ran mochitests on a fresh build on my machine, it works. Did you build with any non standard options?
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# [16:10] <+daleharvey> jonno643: attachmed my mozconfig for reference, but nothing particularly special - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912026
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# [16:16] <@khuey> it stole the precious
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# [16:18] * froydnj wonders who writes some of this awfully formatted code
# [16:18] <Pike> khuey: why do you say that just the moment when I attach a patch to the build system? ;-)
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# [16:18] <Pike> of course, that's really only a question on timing
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# [16:19] <@bz> khuey: Do you have a sec?
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# [16:20] <@khuey> bz: yeah
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# [16:20] <@khuey> bz: what's up?
# [16:20] <@khuey> froydnj: machines
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# [16:21] <@bz> khuey: MOZ_DEBUG
# [16:21] <@bz> khuey: is that a thing in C++?
# [16:21] <@bz> khuey: or only in makefiles?
# [16:21] <glandium> bz: only in makefiles
# [16:21] <glandium> bz: i answered in the bug
# [16:22] <glandium> (indirectly)
# [16:22] <@khuey> just makefiles
# [16:23] <@bz> Ah, ok
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# [16:23] <jcranmer|away> NeilAway: I've been tempted to support sequence<T> in xpidl
# [16:23] <@bz> glandium, khuey: thanks
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# [16:26] <aleth> If I do MutationObserver(function).observe(...) and later on in the code MutationObserver(function).disconnect() will that remove the first observer or do I need to keep track of MutationObserver objects (let observer = MutationObserver(function) ... observer.disconnect()) ?
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# [16:26] <froydnj> khuey: need better machines to write gfx/, then
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# [16:27] <@bz> You need to keep track of objects
# [16:27] <@bz> Furthermore, you shouldn't be using MutationObserver() as a function; it's a constructor
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# [16:27] <@bz> It almost certainly does not work as a function in other browsers
# [16:27] <aleth> bz: Thanks!
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# [16:29] <aleth> bz: Does the observed element keep a reference to the observer object or does the observer get removed along with the scope containing the observer object?
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# [16:33] <aleth> bz: i.e. given what you said, I don't understand how using MutationObserver as a function works.
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# [16:33] <@bz> aleth: MutationObserver as a function in Firefox creates a new object and returns it
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# [16:34] <@bz> aleth: As in, |MutationObserver(x)| and |new MutationObserver(x)| do the exact same thing
# [16:34] <@bz> aleth: but that's not how it works in other browsers
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# [16:34] <@bz> aleth: e.g. in Chrome the former would throw and the latter would work
# [16:34] <aleth> bz: But then, if I do this from a function, and the function returns, I would expect the mutation observer to disappear. And it doesn't (hence the question on whether a reference is kept back from the DOM)
# [16:35] <@bz> aleth: The DOM keeps a reference to the observer, of course, yes
# [16:35] <@bz> aleth: so it can notify it
# [16:35] <reyre> does gecko have an implementation of the unicode bidirectional algorithm? http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/
# [16:35] <@khuey> heh
# [16:35] <aleth> bz: But it's not possible to retrieve the observer from the DOM
# [16:35] <aleth> bz: (that was supposed to be a question)
# [16:36] <@bz> reyre: yes, but it's tied to frames
# [16:36] <@khuey> there's probably a copy in icu too
# [16:36] <@bz> reyre: smontagu would know more
# [16:36] <@bz> khuey: heh
# [16:36] <reyre> okay thanks
# [16:36] <reyre> i'd like to be able to use it in a JS component
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# [16:36] <aleth> bz: i.e. there is no way to find out which observers are listening to a specific DOM element?
# [16:36] <@bz> well, it depens on what you want out of it
# [16:36] <@bz> See nsBidi and nsBidiPresUtils
# [16:37] <@bz> aleth: pretty sure there is not
# [16:37] <aleth> bz: OK, thanks
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# [16:37] <reyre> bz: i really only need a very small part of it, i'll check that out thanks
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# [16:38] <smontagu> reyre: which part of it?
# [16:38] <reyre> smontagu: i need to run the paragraph embedding level part of it
# [16:38] <smontagu> the first strong character thing?
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# [16:41] <jwir3> is there a way to get mach to load mochitest-chrome tests, but not immediately run them?
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# [16:46] <Ms2ger> jwir3, ...maybe
# [16:46] <smontagu> reyre: we have an implementation of that at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/base/src/DirectionalityUtils.cpp#296, but that won't help you much in a js component :(
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# [16:47] <Ms2ger> jwir3, --no-autorun
# [16:47] <reyre> smontagu: ah i see :( thanks
# [16:47] <jwir3> Ms2ger: thanks!
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> Np
# [16:47] <Ms2ger> reyre, we should just expose that if you need it
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# [16:48] <Ms2ger> reyre, or does this need to work cross-browser too?
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# [16:48] <reyre> Ms2ger: we'd like it work cross browser. so i'm thinking it might be better to bundle an implementation of it with the parser
# [16:48] <kats> Ms2ger: thanks for the reviews! i didn't know about mozilla::clamped, that should come in handy
# [16:49] <reyre> this would be easy if there was an API laid out in the spec for it too
# [16:49] <Ms2ger> kats, also, I hate std::min/max :)
# [16:49] <evilpie> wow something is wrong with my laptop today, supper laggy
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# [16:55] <jonno643> whats wrong with std::min?
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# [16:56] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a484e79df631 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 912044 - Initialize rv so we don't use it uninitialized. r=bz
# [16:57] <Ms2ger> jonno643, in this case, that you can't use it with classes
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# [16:57] <@smaug> evilpie: linux and Gnome?
# [16:57] <edmorley> RyanVM: a4fc8aae3053 needed a clobber
# [16:57] <edmorley> I believe
# [16:57] <evilpie> smaug: yeah
# [16:57] <edmorley> RyanVM: want to touch the clobber file?
# [16:58] <@smaug> evilpie: happens occasionally on this laptop too. Need to logout/login
# [16:58] <@smaug> some Gnome shell bug, I believe
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# [16:59] <evilpie> build is already taking 40 minutes, I will try rebooting, thanks!
# [16:59] <RyanVM> edmorley: k
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# [16:59] <@smaug> oh, affects to build time
# [16:59] <@smaug> hmm
# [16:59] <Ms2ger> Woo, static analysis builds
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# [16:59] <@smaug> I think when it happens, I've seen only super slow UI
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# [17:01] <evilpie> okay it feels better now
# [17:01] <evilpie> doesn't lag while typing at least
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# [17:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/26b027841efe - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 627487 - Touch CLOBBER.
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# [17:04] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45e1927c9136 - Luke Wagner - Bug 911834 - OdinMonkey: create phis with a type directly (r=jandem)
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# [17:09] <glandium> smaug: btw, how is profiling broken by the threadsafety assertions?
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# [17:10] <@khuey> glandium: because addref/release are artificially slow
# [17:10] <glandium> khuey: slow enough for the profiler to notice at 1000Hz? O_o
# [17:11] <@khuey> smaug has some fancy profiler
# [17:11] <@khuey> not the built in thing
# [17:11] <davidb> ?
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# [17:12] <glandium> khuey: so what does that have to do with --enable-profiling?
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# [17:13] <@khuey> I don't understand the question
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# [17:14] <glandium> khuey: never mind
# [17:14] <glandium> khuey: now, what i do wonder is, what does those assertions mean for e.g. geeksphone
# [17:14] <glandium> aiui, they're providing nightly builds
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# [17:15] <glandium> and those are targetted at app developers
# [17:15] <glandium> not gecko developers
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# [17:15] <@khuey> nobody has filed a "b2g doesn't startup" bug yet
# [17:15] <glandium> so we're making those builds articially slower
# [17:15] * @khuey was kind of expecting them
# [17:15] <@khuey> talos seemed to think it was only a 2-3% regression on our benchmarks
# [17:16] <@khuey> smaug has some crazy microbenchmarks where this stuff really matters
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# [17:16] <glandium> khuey: then he could disable by some other means
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# [17:23] <@bz> khuey: all the really perf-sensitive DOM microbenchmarks avoid refcounting like the plague
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# [17:27] <@smaug> glandium: I use Zoom
# [17:27] <@smaug> and it clearly notices those threadsafety checks
# [17:27] <@smaug> and it is just odd if I can't rely on the Nightlies to do profiling
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# [17:28] <BenWa> smaug: Ohh cool, I wanted to try Zoom. How is it?
# [17:29] <@smaug> it is good
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# [17:29] <@smaug> or good enough so that I don't need to get a Mac just for profiling
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# [17:29] <@smaug> UI is quite close to Shark
# [17:30] <@smaug> BenWa: Zoom has actually some 15 days evaluation license thing
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# [17:30] <BenWa> smaug: It'
# [17:30] <BenWa> s sampling based?
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# [17:31] <@smaug> I think so
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# [17:32] <@smaug> what else could it be
# [17:32] <tbsaunde> smaug: could be a machine simulator like cachegrind
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# [17:33] <@smaug> well, cachegrind isn't really a perf profiler
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# [17:34] <@smaug> Zoom can use different "drivers"
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# [17:34] <@smaug> apparently perf, oprofile and rrprofile
# [17:34] * @smaug wonders what is rrprofile
# [17:34] <tbsaunde> so perf is just a front end visualizer thing?
# [17:34] <tbsaunde> s/perf/oom/
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# [17:35] <@smaug> s/oom/zoom/
# [17:35] <@smaug> yes, you could probably get the same information from other tools
# [17:35] <@smaug> and combining that to assembly code etc
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# [17:36] <@smaug> Zoom just happens to be very easy to use
# [17:36] <@smaug> ah, it has cache miss profile too....
# [17:36] <@smaug> haven't tried that
# [17:36] <evilpie> wow that sounds really good, perf is annoying to read
# [17:37] <evilpie> okay the price is just meh
# [17:37] <@smaug> yeah, a bit expensive
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# [17:38] <reuben> evilpie: service-now! :)
# [17:38] <@smaug> but for me it was like... either I want a macbook for profiling, or a profiler with good UI running on linux
# [17:38] <evilpie> this is clearly marketed at companies, but I guess you could negotiate when you are a student.
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# [17:39] <BenWa> smaug: Having different people use different tools is great because one tool wont catch everything
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# [17:39] <@smaug> indeed
# [17:40] <evilpie> reuben: I don't need it right now, but I might need it after my internship
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# [17:45] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: ping
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# [17:48] <jcranmer> bsmedberg: I was curious to know what your thoughts were re making our APIs more STL-like
# [17:48] <@bsmedberg> which ones?
# [17:48] <jcranmer> primarily string, nsTArray, and nsTHashtable
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# [17:48] <@bsmedberg> I think I've written to the newsgroups about this. For each of those, we need to measure the cost versus reward.
# [17:49] <jcranmer> I didn't see you respond to the thread I made recently
# [17:49] <@bsmedberg> reward is often "more developer familiarity" and cost is some combination of refactoring cost, performance/memory
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# [17:49] <@bsmedberg> I am convinced that we should *not* do this for strings
# [17:49] <jcranmer> we are definitely not going to be reusing std::string
# [17:49] <bjacob__> glandium: i'm getting "checking whether the CRT objects have text relocations... configure: error: couldn't compile a simple C file"
# [17:49] <bjacob__> glandium: while trying to configure for android
# [17:49] <bjacob__> glandium: sounds like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720621 ... ?
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# [17:50] <@khuey> can we replace nsTHashtable with teh JS hashtables?
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# [17:50] <jcranmer> khuey: can we kill PLDHashtable yet? :-)
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# [17:51] <@khuey> well since that's what nsTHashtable uses under the covers, no
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# [17:56] <tbsaunde> khuey: well, if we stopped leaking that detail outside of the hash tables maybe we could change that
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# [17:57] <jcranmer> I really hate the Enumerate* stuff for arrays/hashtables
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# [17:58] <@khuey> jcranmer: iterators would be amazing
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# [17:58] <jcranmer> especially if we could say for (auto it = vec.begin(); it != vec.end(); ++it)
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# [17:59] <jcranmer> #1 best use of auto IMHO: not having to specify crummy complex_stl_type<arga, arb, argc>::iterator
# [17:59] <gfritzsche> i guess glue could be written for |for (auto it = begin(vec); ...|
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# [18:00] <@khuey> jcranmer: auto foo = static_cast<ReallyLongTypeName*>(void*) is pretty nice too
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# [18:01] <bjacob__> glandium: here's the end of config.log: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2965396
# [18:01] <bjacob__> glandium: i also tried clobbering, same result
# [18:01] <bjacob__> glandium: is the NDK r6b not good enough anymore?
# [18:02] <Waldo> speaking of vaguely nice things, in theory we now have printf fixed-width format specifier macros now, in mozilla/IntegerPrintfMacros.h
# [18:02] <Waldo> hasn't upstreamed to m-c yet, but that's just a formality, right?
# [18:02] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eab3879def7d - Luke Wagner - Bug 911842 - OdinMonkey: disable Ion optimization passes that don't help (r=jandem)
# [18:02] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: why not just uses indexs for arrays? slightly longer but not much
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# [18:03] <@ted> jcranmer: man, i hate writing out STL iterator types
# [18:03] <@khuey> ted: so say we all
# [18:04] <Waldo> tbsaunde: then you have to get the bounds correct, which is easy enough to mistype
# [18:04] <Waldo> particularly for reverse iteration
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# [18:05] <tbsaunde> Waldo: for reverse iteration I maybe, forward it really isn't hard
# [18:05] <Waldo> although, yes, we are all adults, in theory, and generally :-) (at least as far as that goes)
# [18:05] <tbsaunde> doesn't dbaron have some pointer based thing he like for TArray anyway?
# [18:05] <@ted> Waldo: is there one that works for uint64_t?
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# [18:05] <@ted> Waldo: because i've found that PRIx64 doesn't work for me without warnings ing cc
# [18:05] <@ted> gcc
# [18:06] <@ted> bothers the hell out of me
# [18:06] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: because it's easier to convert into ranged-for loops?
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# [18:06] <Waldo> ted: IntegerPrintfMacros.h delegates to <inttypes.h>, so you may be SOL still
# [18:06] <Waldo> ted: although, that probably depends on your gcc and your libstdc++
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# [18:07] <Waldo> in theory we could reimplement it all, if warnings end up being that big a deal
# [18:07] <Waldo> obviously that's best avoided
# [18:07] <@ted> heh
# [18:07] <@ted> yeah
# [18:07] <@ted> just depressing
# [18:07] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: I guess
# [18:08] <Waldo> well, the format macros themselves are kind of depressing, really
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# [18:08] <Waldo> that said, <<-style output just makes me want to gag
# [18:08] <Waldo> even if it is type-safe
# [18:08] <@ted> yes
# [18:08] <tbsaunde> Waldo: yeah, formating sucks lets go shopping
# [18:08] <@ted> format strings won, let's move on in life
# [18:09] <bjacob__> meh
# [18:09] <bjacob__> format strings still cause bugs everyday
# [18:09] <bjacob__> placeholder strings are a good compromise IMO
# [18:10] <bjacob__> print("hello %1 %2", somestring, somenumber);
# [18:10] <mbrubeck> avih: Lower is better for TART, right?
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# [18:10] <@ted> bjacob__: sure, i'm just arguing for something like that vs. iostreams
# [18:10] <bjacob__> ted: sure
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# [18:10] <jcranmer> the reason why people hate << is probably mostly because it's an abuse of operator overloading
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# [18:11] <tbsaunde> bjacob__: if you use format warnings that doesn't seem that much better than simple uses of printf
# [18:11] <bjacob__> jcranmer: imagine if they had used overloaded operator, instead
# [18:11] <mbrubeck> avih: Also, are the occasional zero values a known problem?
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# [18:11] <mbrubeck> http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[293,1,33]]&sel=none&displayrange=7&datatype=running
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# [18:11] <reuben> bjacob__++
# [18:11] <reuben> that'd be awesome
# [18:12] <tbsaunde> bjacob__: I know where you sit, besides how horrible compat is already around that its a really bad idea
# [18:12] <bjacob__> tbsaunde: but format warnings mean that now the compiler has to do the job of a not-compiler
# [18:12] <tbsaunde> bjacob__: huh?
# [18:12] * Waldo didn't start the fire o/~
# [18:12] <Waldo> (not on tinderbox, fear not)
# [18:12] <bjacob__> tbsaunde: it's a bit unnatural for a compiler to know that a particular function, printf, doesn't like a particular combination of arguments
# [18:13] <reuben> tbsaunde: do you know where nbp sits? https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=operator%2C+%28
# [18:13] <@ted> heh
# [18:13] <@ted> mm, apparently %j works for 64-bit ints
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# [18:14] <bjacob__> ted: i thought that was for bz2-compressed binary data
# [18:14] <tbsaunde> bjacob__: meh, its reasonable for the compiler to understand things in the spec
# [18:14] <Waldo> reuben: poster child for template varargs, and I will see personally to that being switched over when the time comes :-)
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# [18:14] <Waldo> although, I think that is not quite the worst use in the world, to be honest
# [18:14] <Waldo> or {}-initialization
# [18:14] <bjacob__> tbsaunde: but that only solves the problem for those few functions lucky enough to be in the spec
# [18:15] <tbsaunde> reuben: somewhere on the other side of the country
# [18:15] <reuben> Waldo: yea, he explained why he did it after I yelled at him :)
# [18:15] <@ted> bjacob__: hah!
# [18:15] <tbsaunde> bjacob__: attributes :-)
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# [18:16] <matthewgertner> hah
# [18:16] <matthewgertner> that's not supposed to happen
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# [18:17] <bjacob__> Waldo: are we going to get a string API someday in mfbt?
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# [18:19] <@ted> we could really use another string api
# [18:19] <Waldo> bjacob__: seems like it'd be nice, eventually; obviously there's considerable pain in interop and ensuring a smooth transition
# [18:19] <bjacob__> glandium: switching NDK from r6b to r8e solved my problem
# [18:19] <@ted> never enough of those around
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# [18:19] <jcranmer> we only have, what three?
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# [18:20] <Waldo> "and then there were four" is a definite concern (assuming arguendo we have three now)
# [18:20] <bjacob__> but nsString is bad enough that it's the biggest pain point IME for new contributors with our codebase
# [18:20] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: there's probably more than one google dirived one in the tree
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# [18:21] <Waldo> bjacob__: I bet someone knowledgeable with a few days' time could at least make it real-templatized, not macro-templatized, enough for normal searching to find the exposed member APIs, at least
# [18:21] <Waldo> that is on my list of things to do in my copious time, which means someone else should do it
# [18:21] <bjacob__> Waldo: i wrote the templatization patch and it was turned down
# [18:21] <Waldo> ...
# [18:21] <Waldo> that's sad
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# [18:22] <Waldo> that's *really* sad
# [18:22] <tbsaunde> Waldo: I've considered improving it some, but afaik jcranmer has patches in his queue touching it a lot so I'm staying away
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# [18:22] <tbsaunde> (the char16_t stuff)
# [18:23] <jcranmer> tbsaunde: the invasive stuff I've backed away from
# [18:23] <Waldo> ooh, pgo builds are a line item on inbound tbpl now? win
# [18:23] <jcranmer> I think the only sane way to switch to char16_t at this point is to do a mass-sed
# [18:23] <tbsaunde> jcranmer: oh, ok
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# [18:25] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8a61a35876ff - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 912006 - Update pdf.js to version 0.8.478. r=bdahl
# [18:25] <jcranmer> I'm obviously going for the "cause of most bitrot" award
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# [18:27] <Ms2ger> Waldo, you can thank RyanVM|Sheriff :)
# [18:27] <RyanVM|Sheriff> Waldo: huh? PGO's always been?
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# [18:27] <Ms2ger> Well, thank RyanVM|Sheriff anyway
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# [18:28] <Waldo> I seem to not remember them having been at some point or other
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# [18:28] <Waldo> maybe I'm just getting old
# [18:28] <Waldo> or running on not enough sleep
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# [18:29] <NeilAway> Waldo: how do you template out-of-line functions again?
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# [18:29] <RyanVM|Sheriff> Waldo: only since 2011 :)
# [18:29] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, predefine the instantiations
# [18:29] <RyanVM|Sheriff> (bug 670037)
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# [18:29] <Waldo> NeilAway: I think you just declare them in the header, then in some .cpp you declare/define the specialization, or so
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# [18:30] <mihneadb> I noticed a "Static check" build over the weekend, but I can't find any not on tbpl
# [18:30] <mihneadb> was that a one time thing?
# [18:30] <NeilAway> Waldo: and also you don't want template bloat to increase the compile time ;-)
# [18:31] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mihneadb: it's hidden by default
# [18:31] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mihneadb: &showall=1 will show it
# [18:31] <mihneadb> RyanVM|Sheriff: ah, ok, ty
# [18:31] <Waldo> NeilAway: it's a solvable problem
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# [18:32] <Waldo> a little fugly, but less so than the current situation, which is an incredible assertion to make, but it's true
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# [18:32] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|Sheriff, except it's shown on try
# [18:32] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|Sheriff, which means fun as soon as it breaks :)
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# [18:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> Ms2ger: meh, we could hide it there I guess
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# [18:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> (not the only job shown by default on Try that isn't anywhere else)
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# [18:33] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|Sheriff, I would submit those are all bugs :)
# [18:34] <RyanVM|Sheriff> probably
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# [18:34] <philor> or we could add it to trychooser and unhide it everywhere
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# [18:34] <Ms2ger> Or put the list of jobs and their visibility to m-c
# [18:34] <Ms2ger> </heresy>
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# [18:35] <philor> but they aren't all bugs, having win64 visible on try and not elsewhere is perfectly correct
# [18:36] <philor> you ask for it, you should get to see its silent permaorange
# [18:36] <Ms2ger> I would find it perfectly acceptable to hide win64 on try
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# [18:36] <philor> I would find it perfectly insane
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# [18:43] <@khuey> touch objdir/CLOBBER
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# [18:43] <Ms2ger> khuey, I guess that's riskier on Windows
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# [18:44] <RyanVM|Sheriff> i have no idea if that test bustage would manifest IRL or not
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# [18:45] <Ms2ger> Then again, I never run tests ;)
# [18:45] <tbsaunde> philor|away: *I* didn't ask to see win64 :p
# [18:45] <edmorley> Ms2ger: don't forget we have try by default = false jobs
# [18:45] <RyanVM|Sheriff> yep, you're good if that bustage is test-only
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# [18:46] <Ms2ger> edmorley, I guess there's an argument to be made there
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# [18:52] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I've clarified on the visibility policy: https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Sheriffing%2FJob_Visibility_Policy&diff=702594&oldid=694154
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# [18:53] <Ms2ger> edmorley, fair enough
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# [18:53] <avih> mbrubeck: yes, lower is better in TART, and the 0 are, apparently, a graphserver glitch when tart tries to send it a non-existing test name . so this would be bug 909131
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# [18:53] <edmorley> Ms2ger: if someone blindly adds extra options (beyond -u all etc) to their trychooser syntax, then it's their choice imo
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# [18:54] <Ms2ger> edmorley, but all isn't all! ;)
# [18:54] <edmorley> Ms2ger: iirc there is a bug to rename it to "most" and to delete "all"
# [18:54] <mbrubeck> avih: Thanks. I found bug 909131 and commented in it.
# [18:54] <edmorley> if only to get people away from muscle memory laziness "all" using more resources
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# [18:55] <Ms2ger> edmorley, it's not laziness, it's being careful ;)
# [18:55] <Ms2ger> In my case, at least
# [18:55] <avih> mbrubeck: the 0 at the graphserver is NOT that bug, but we've seen it on MattN's private graphserver, so we have prior info.
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# [18:56] <mbrubeck> avih: Hmm... I went looking for logs, and in the cases I looked at, all of them had that bug
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# [18:56] <avih> mbrubeck: let me try to rephrase :)
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# [18:57] <edmorley> Ms2ger: I didn't say in all cases :-)
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# [18:58] <avih> mbrubeck: it seems there's another bug, at the graphserver, where it displays 0 if it's been sent an invalid test name. sending the invalid test name is bug 909131, but showing 0 on the graphserver is another graphserver issue, which is triggered by that.,
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# [18:58] <mbrubeck> got it
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# [19:00] <NeilAway> edmorley: can't we just make "most" the default?
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# [19:00] <@mounir> gps: did you get feedback that messages to dev-platform should be broadcasted to firefox-dev?
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# [19:01] <Ms2ger> mounir, clearly we need a mozilla.mozilla newsgroup
# [19:02] <@mounir> Ms2ger: we need a m-c newsgroup :)
# [19:02] <Ms2ger> mounir, no, I want the gaia people to listen too ;)
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# [19:04] <@mounir> Ms2ger: you are the devil
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# [19:04] <gps> mounir: I posted the make test targets piece to firefox-dev
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# [19:05] <mbrubeck> NeilAway: We don't just want most people to use at most 'most' most of the time; we want all people all the time to not use 'all'. ;)
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# [19:13] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1153ba67c760 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 911347 - Fix xpcshell static file cleanup on Windows. r=ted
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# [19:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1eacd8262e0f - Neil Deakin - Bug 896142, Entries appearing twice in form-fill autocomplete menus, r=mhammond
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# [19:28] <@bsmedberg> RyanVM|Sheriff: have you seen anything like bug 800347 (crashes in OnMaybeDequeueOne) in unit tests?
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# [19:29] <RyanVM|Sheriff> doesn't ring a bell, no
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# [19:30] <froydnj> bsmedberg: how long does it take crash reports to show up on crash-stats.m.com?
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# [19:30] <@bsmedberg> froydnj: typically 30secs to a minute
# [19:31] <@bsmedberg> unless there's something going on
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# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/94b9e5c9f994 - Ms2ger - Bug 860123 - Make mochitests expect the new behavior. r=ehsan
# [20:58] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae9cbeff3bc6 - Blake Kaplan - Bug 860123 - Use the right window's selection in some tests; r=ehsan
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# [21:00] <bajaj> bdahl: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890259, was this uplifted ?
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# [21:02] <tbsaunde> ehsan: wouldn't it make more sense for extensions/spellcheck to live someplace (editor/ ?) given it goes in libxul?
# [21:02] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: perhaps, but I don't know why things live in extensions/ and what happens if you take them out
# [21:02] <bdahl> bajaj: dang, no
# [21:03] <bdahl> forgot checkin neeeded
# [21:03] <bdahl> bajaj: has last beta gone out?
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# [21:04] <bajaj> have another one on Thursday..but I hope this is really low risk to get it landed then
# [21:04] <bajaj> bdahl: ^^
# [21:04] <bdahl> yes, very low risk
# [21:04] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: can a worker thread provide samples to an <audio> element bypassing the main thread?
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# [21:04] <tbsaunde> ehsan: if I'm reading things correctly its only part of extensions/ in the tree, but not really as the build system sees things
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# [21:05] <bajaj> k, thanks ! Also bdahl recently needinfo'ed you on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=901288
# [21:05] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: or, who's the best person to ask about that? ;-)
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# [21:06] <bdahl> bajaj: k, eating lunch will check it out in a few
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# [21:06] <bajaj> thanks bdahl
# [21:07] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: not really
# [21:07] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: what do you need to do?
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# [21:07] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: text-to-speech impl for b2g, see bug 904687
# [21:07] <@ehsan> tbsaunde: oh, could be! I have no idea
# [21:08] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: do you have the entire buffer in advance, or do you construct samples on the fly?
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# [21:08] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I believe it's constructed on the fly
# [21:08] <jld> Possibly stupid question about bug 907914: Why is PR_GetCurrentThread() expensive? Shouldn't it just be a single inline TLS read or something?
# [21:08] <@bsmedberg> whether they do it with ctypes or emscripten...
# [21:09] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: we don't support any media APIs in workers yet, so pretty much any solution has to go through the main thread
# [21:09] <@bsmedberg> jld: it's still a barrier, plus it's actually a TLS read plus two derefs, IIRC
# [21:09] <@bsmedberg> jld: NS_IsMainThread is a single TLS read without barrier, though
# [21:09] <@bsmedberg> ehsan: I guess that's not something we plan on fixing in the B2G 1.2 timeframe, hrm? :-)
# [21:10] <jld> bsmedberg: Ugh. My other thought was that if you just want to know "is this the same thread?", shortcuts should be possible.
# [21:10] <@ehsan> no
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# [21:10] <jld> bsmedberg: But, I mean, I figured this was stuff that had already been discussed somewhere/somewhen I hadn't seen.
# [21:10] <@bsmedberg> jld: depends on the thread backend, but perhaps
# [21:10] <@bsmedberg> jld: PR_GetCurrentThread is very heavy, I bet you could do better in this particular case pretty easily
# [21:11] <@ehsan> bsmedberg: but if the main thread round trip is ok, you probably want to use Web Audio, although I need to know specifics of the issue they're trying to solve
# [21:11] <@bsmedberg> but you'd almost certainly need OS-specific code
# [21:11] <@ehsan> that bug isn't talking much about audio related issues
# [21:11] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/772246d9b5e8 - Dan Minor - Bug 912004 - DeviceManager pushDir should take a timeout parameter; r=wlach
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# [21:17] <+eeejay> ehsan, bsmedberg, right. the speech service pushes audio samples to the "speech task" which then does its audio
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# [21:18] <+eeejay> but we could do it in web audio too, if it makes more sense
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# [21:23] <@smaug> jld: regarding Bug 907914, AddRef of cycle collectable objects is usually 6 instructions. After that patch over 20 IIRC. And in certain cases Addref/Release are called a lot
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# [21:25] <AutomatedTester> mixedpuppy: ping
# [21:25] <mixedpuppy> AutomatedTester: pong
# [21:26] <AutomatedTester> mixedpuppy: would it be ok to move the meeting by 1h30 (or later) from original meeting time
# [21:26] <AutomatedTester> so 14:30 PDT or later
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# [21:27] <mixedpuppy> AutomatedTester: I have a 2-3pm PDT meeting, it would have to be after that
# [21:27] <mixedpuppy> which would be fine
# [21:27] <AutomatedTester> mixedpuppy: do you think that should work for dmose too?
# [21:27] <mixedpuppy> don't know, seeing if dmose is online...
# [21:28] <AutomatedTester> I cant see him online atm
# [21:28] <AutomatedTester> :(
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# [21:28] <gaston> so who broke xpcshell on sparc64 in between e45c455f085a and dc7b76fcf7e4 ?
# [21:29] <mixedpuppy> AutomatedTester: dmose says ok
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# [21:29] <AutomatedTester> mixedpuppy: thanks, you're helping me out of a bind
# [21:29] <AutomatedTester> 3pm it is
# [21:29] <Ms2ger> gaston, sparc? What's sparc? ;)
# [21:29] <mixedpuppy> AutomatedTester: but he leaves at 4:30...
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# [21:30] <AutomatedTester> mixedpuppy: I dont want to reach 4pm since thats midnight for me
# [21:30] <AutomatedTester> :D
# [21:30] <mixedpuppy> :)
# [21:30] <mixedpuppy> this is good, now I have time for lunch
# [21:30] <Ms2ger> akeybl, tut tut, don't misinform RyanVM|Sheriff :)
# [21:30] <AutomatedTester> mixedpuppy: updated meeting request
# [21:30] <gaston> Ms2ger: you know, something very exotic and hi-end hardware from sun^Woracle :)
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# [21:31] <akeybl> Ms2ger: it pains me as I go bug by bug fixing my mistake ha
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# [21:31] <gaston> Ms2ger: 912168 if you feel concerned :)
# [21:31] <RyanVM|Sheriff> Ms2ger: that'll teach me to be proactive :P
# [21:31] <Ms2ger> akeybl, you're forgiven... This time ;)
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# [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> Ms2ger: akeybl: he's better than forgiven, he's approving the patches while he's at it :D
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# [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> win
# [21:33] <Ms2ger> RyanVM|Sheriff, dunno if that's better for you ;)
# [21:33] <RyanVM|Sheriff> eh, most of them have esr patches too which makes backports easy in general
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# [21:35] <gaston> oh so it's that period where everyone is trying to cram last-minute patches to what will be 24esr?
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# [21:36] <@ehsan> eeejay: what is the speech task?
# [21:37] <jld> smaug: Thanks for the info.
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# [21:37] <jld> I've been trying to understand assertions and performance better because of the situation on b2g.
# [21:38] <ckerschb> I have a class LoadContext that inherits nsILoadContext as well as nsIInterfaceRequestor (both, nsILoadContext and nsIInterfaceRequestor inherit from nsISupports), Now i need to create a new LoadContext like this nsCOMPtr<nsIInterfaceRequestor> sbContext = do_QueryInterface(new mozilla::LoadContext(NECKO_SAFEBROWSING_APP_ID)); and of course i am getting a compile error: ‘nsISupports’ is an ambiguous base of LoadContext. what is the best
# [21:38] <+eeejay> ehsan, a speech service implements a Speak method that takes a speech task which acts as an audio sink
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# [21:38] <+eeejay> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webspeech/synth/nsISpeechService.idl
# [21:39] <@ehsan> eeejay: how does the implementation currently work?
# [21:39] <@smaug> jld: it probably doesn't matter for b2g, since I don't think anyone does such a low level profiling there
# [21:40] <@smaug> but on desktop we really need to be able to do reliable profiling
# [21:40] <+eeejay> ehsan, the task has a SourceMediaStream that it uses
# [21:40] <abr> Another NSPR question -- is PRTIme the most preferred time representation, or is there some class we should be using?
# [21:40] <@ehsan> eeejay: ok then, so I guess using Web Audio is not really relevant here
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# [21:40] <+eeejay> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webspeech/synth/nsSpeechTask.cpp#224
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# [21:41] <tbsaunde> abr: mozilla::TimeStamp may be nicer
# [21:41] <tbsaunde> ckerschb: you don't need the do_QueryInterface there at all
# [21:41] <+eeejay> ehsan, it is an option.. a speech service could be implemented by sending audio samples to the task, or by playing them directly
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# [21:42] <+eeejay> ehsan, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/media/webspeech/synth/nsISpeechService.idl#127
# [21:42] <ckerschb> tbsaunde: that's what i thought earlier, but leaving out do_QueryInterface, i get that error: ASSERTION: QueryInterface needed: 'query_result.get() == mRawPtr', file
# [21:42] <abr> tbsaunde: Thanks, I'll take a look at that.
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# [21:43] <@ehsan> eeejay: what does the implementation for the other case do?
# [21:43] <+eeejay> it needs to play audio directly (ie. in js that would mean using web audio)
# [21:43] <tbsaunde> ckerschb: assuming LoadContext does inherit from nsIInterfaceRequester I'd guess your QI is wrong
# [21:44] <jesup> ehsan: so, at a low level, ::AppendToTrack() can be called from any (single-per-track) thread. The issue would be getting access to the MS object and trackID (and coordinating it with higher level stuff: see MediaManager.h and MediaEngineWebRTCAudio.cpp)
# [21:44] <@ehsan> eeejay: ok.... so I'm kind of lost on what's your question here then! :)
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# [21:44] <ckerschb> tbsaunde: can you have a look? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897516#c30
# [21:44] <@ehsan> jesup: see above :)
# [21:45] <+eeejay> ehsan, i personally didn't have a question :) just mentioned that if web audio was awesome, and if emscripten worked great than we could go that route
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# [21:45] <@ehsan> ok
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# [21:50] <tbsaunde> ckerschb: yeah, you need to update QueryInterface for LoadContext
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# [21:51] <tbsaunde> that said why the hell is the type of nsIChannel.notificationCallbacks nsIInterfaceRequester
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# [21:53] <@khuey> tbsaunde: so you can request interfaces
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# [21:53] <ckerschb> tbsaunde: thanks, but can you be a little more precise? Shouldn't LoadContext::GetInterface do the trick?
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# [21:54] <+decoder> philor: bug 910486 is asan only?
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# [21:54] <tbsaunde> ckerschb: no, QueryInterface and GetInterface are different methods
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# [21:55] <ckerschb> tbsaunde: alright, thanks a lot
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# [22:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/841926f8b40a - Alexandre Poirot - Bug 900972 - Ensure emitting appOpen event for apps being opened before the call to watchApps. r=paul.rouget
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# [22:03] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8e23707fc975 - J. Ryan Stinnett - Bug 911127 - Repair DebuggerServer loading on B2G. r=dcamp
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# [22:58] <jez9999> What is the CSS behaviour when an @import rule specifies just a directory, like @import url("chrome://communicator/skin/"); ? I don't see it specified at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@import
# [22:58] <Ms2ger> Getting index.html or whatever is returned from there, I'd assume
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# [22:59] <Mook_as> that has nothing much to do with @import, and more to do how chrome:// urls work - they get <package name>.css, in this case chrome://communicator/skin/communicator.css
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# [23:04] <jez9999> and how do they determine <package name>?
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# [23:06] <Mook_as> jez9999: the thing after the two slashes?
# [23:06] <jez9999> Mook_as: is this documented anywhere?
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# [23:06] <Mook_as> jez9999: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL/Tutorial/The_Chrome_URL was the first result.
# [23:08] <jez9999> thanks
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# [23:22] <avih> tn: do you think the frames recording api might shed some light on this? i could use some consensus before pushing talos changes, which is generally a PITA.
# [23:22] <fabrice> who knows about Mac OS widgetry magic?
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# [23:26] <JosiahOne> fabrice: smichaud probably.
# [23:26] <JosiahOne> fabrice: (In #macdev)
# [23:27] <tn> avih, it's not something we can test on try server?
# [23:27] <tn> fabrice, #macdev perhaps
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# [23:27] <fabrice> tn: JosiahOne: thanks!
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# [23:29] <avih> tn: i know there's some way to test talos stuff with try servers, but not sure i know how, since a try push typically consists only of m-c/inbound/etc changes, and those don't include talos changes...
# [23:29] <philor> decoder: are we intentionally running jit-tests twice on ASan builds?
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# [23:29] <mbrubeck> avih: You have to upload a talos.zip somewhere and then change talos.json
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# [23:30] <avih> mbrubeck: so talos.json can point at either talos.json URL, or some talos revision id and then mozharness will pick that up?
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# [23:31] <avih> mbrubeck: ermm.. at talos.zip* URL or...
# [23:31] <mbrubeck> avih: Yeah, you can change this line: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/testing/talos/talos.json#2 -- ask jmaher for details; I don't know whether the URL has to be within the firewall or something, for example.
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# [23:32] <avih> mbrubeck: i see. thanks.
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# [23:33] <mbrubeck> avih: Looking back at some old code, jmaher just uploads his taloszips to people.m.o and points Try at them, so I guess not
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# [23:33] <avih> mbrubeck: guess not what?
# [23:34] <mbrubeck> I guess it doesn't have to be inside the firewall
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# [23:34] <jmaher|afk> avih: mbrubeck: you have to use a hg repo, I have one on my people account which I point to with talos.json updates
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# [23:34] <avih> ah, right. that's good news. now i just need to file a bug for people.m.o/avih and i'm good ;)
# [23:35] <avih> (or ask someone to host it for me for now ;) )
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# [23:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/98c209ce2408 - Kamil Muszynski - Bug 896737 - Limit the length of Slow SQL statements reported to Telemetry. r=vdjeric
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# [23:59] <+dholbert> bz_away, (when you're back): is it safe to do things that might run script, in a refresh driver WillRefresh() callback?
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