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8. # [00:01] <+dholbert> bz_away, (the thing that might run script in this case is "OnStopFrame()", sent from an SVG image in imagelib. We can set scripted observers for OnStopFrame, with chrome privs.)
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11. # [00:02] <@roc> bsmedberg: ping
12. # [00:02] <+dholbert> bz_away, (in particular: would it be worth delaying OnStopFrame w/ a nsIRunnable and NS_DispatchToMainThread, so it gets run after the refresh tick is over?)
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34. # [00:07] <+dholbert|lunch> bz_away, [I just needinfo'd you for this question, on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=911862 ]
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50. # [00:12] <@bsmedberg> roc: pong
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52. # [00:12] <jez> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/CSSRule#Type_constants
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54. # [00:12] <jez> this documentation makes it look like there's a Javascript enumeration of CSSRule values somewhere; is there?
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58. # [00:13] <@roc> bsmedberg: sent you email about the nsTHashtable bug :-)
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62. # [00:14] <jez> ah never mind, found it
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69. # [00:16] <@bsmedberg> roc: ok, not now since I have to go feed kids, but tomorrow morning
70. # [00:16] <@roc> ok thanks
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94. # [00:35] <jez> How does the error console determine the name of a JS object's instance type? like, instead of saying [object] it will say [object CSSRuleList]
95. # [00:35] <jez> how is that 'CSSRuleList' being determined?
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101. # [00:39] <mbrubeck> jez: Looks like it's implemented in a few different places depending on the object, but it's basically "[object "+x.constructor.name+"]"
102. # [00:39] <jez> is that how Firebug does it?
103. # [00:40] <mbrubeck> e.g. http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/base/nsDOMClassInfo.cpp#2844 or http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/js/src/builtin/Object.cpp#270
104. # [00:40] <mbrubeck> or http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/dom/bindings/BindingUtils.cpp#1487
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106. # [00:40] <mbrubeck> jez: I would assume that firebug just calls x.toString()
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108. # [00:40] <jez> gah
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110. # [00:41] <jez> why hasn't a proper interface been implemented in JS to give object instance name?
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113. # [00:41] <mbrubeck> Something different from toString?
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117. # [00:42] <jez> toString has other stuff tacked on like square brackets
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119. # [00:42] <jez> I want the string "CSSStyleSheet" that I can match against
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122. # [00:43] <jez> and i doubt toString is standardized. it's probably OK for a browser to implement toString as returning "this is a CSSStyleSheet object!"
123. # [00:43] <mbrubeck> jez: Does the `instanceof` operator work for your use case?
124. # [00:43] <jez> nope, CSSStyleSheet is "not defined"
125. # [00:43] <mbrubeck> jez: Object.prototype.toString is standardized here: http://www.ecma262-5.com/ELS5_Section_15.htm#Section_15.2.4.2
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128. # [00:44] <mbrubeck> jez: That's weird; in my Firefox, (typeof CSSStyleSheet == "function")
129. # [00:45] <jez> mbrubeck: i'm talking about something like "myVar instanceof CSSStyleSheet"
130. # [00:45] <jez> also, maybe relevant is that I'm running this code inside a JSM
131. # [00:46] <mbrubeck> > document.stylesSheets[0] instanceof CSSStyleSheet
132. # [00:46] <mbrubeck> true
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134. # [00:46] <mbrubeck> Yeah, it might well not be defined in your JSM...
135. # [00:46] <mbrubeck> You'd need a reference to the CSSStyleSheet constructor from the realm (window) that the object originally came from
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139. # [00:48] <jdm> mbrubeck is correct
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143. # [00:49] <jez> and yet I can output to the console, from within my JSM, the string representation "[object CSSStyleSheet]"
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145. # [00:49] <jez> so there must be something in the object itself that can be used even outside the context of the window
146. # [00:50] <@khuey> jez: cross global instanceof basically doesn't work
147. # [00:50] <mbrubeck> normally I'd say x.constructor.name, but that doesn't seem to work for this object
148. # [00:50] <mbrubeck> CSSStyleSheet.name == ""
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150. # [00:50] <mbrubeck> does "instanceof Ci.nsIDOMCSSStyleSheet" work? // random stab
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157. # [00:52] <jez> ReferenceError: Ci is not defined
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160. # [00:52] <mbrubeck> s/Ci/Components.interfaces/
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171. # [00:55] <jez> indeed
172. # [00:55] <jez> stylesheet instanceof Components.interfaces.nsIDOMCSSStyleSheet works
173. # [00:55] <mbrubeck> \o/
174. # [00:55] <jez> :-)
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176. # [00:56] <jez> it'd still be nice if there were some language spec where all objects had to implement .instanceName() so I could just get CSSStyleSheet (which is what toString gives you, not nsIDOMCSSStyleSheet)
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178. # [00:56] <heycam> jez, Object.prototype.toString.call(object).substring(something) often does the trick
179. # [00:57] <jdm> D:
180. # [00:57] <heycam> oh that was mentioned earlier
181. # [00:57] <heycam> carry on :)
182. # [00:57] <mjrosenb|ARM> interesting, in the zimbra inerface, if someone has responded to an email, i looks like there is no way to respond to the original message, only the fresh reply.
183. # [00:57] * NeilAway notes that XPCOM interfaces on DOM objects aren't guaranteed to exist in the light of webidl bindings
184. # [00:58] <jez> mjrosenb|ARM: sounds like Google Groups
185. # [00:58] <Mook_as> yeah, I think you want either nsIDOM* or Components.utils.getGlobalForObject(s).CSSStyleSheet
186. # [00:58] * mbrubeck did not know about getGlobalForObject, very nice
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188. # [00:58] <jez> huh?
189. # [00:58] <jez> should i change my instanceof code?
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192. # [01:00] <mbrubeck> jez: "stylesheet instanceof Components.utils.getGlobalForObject(s).CSSStyleSheet" might be more robust, in case nsIDOMCSSStyleSheet gets replaced with a WebIDL binding sometime in the future
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194. # [01:00] <jcranmer|away> jez: the XPIDL interfaces are slowly dying
195. # [01:00] <jez> oh ok
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201. # [01:04] <mihneadb> khuey: is ctypes.unsigned_long the equivalent for DWORD in Win-land?
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208. # [01:05] <jez> Error: NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS: Component returned failure code: 0x80570009 (NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.getGlobalForObject] Source File: chrome://mfix/content/modules/miscUtils.jsm
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212. # [01:05] <jez> that's for stylesheet instanceof Components.utils.getGlobalForObject(stylesheet).CSSStyleSheet
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220. # [01:07] <Mook_as> mihneadb: yes, they're both 32 bit unsigned integers (even for win64)
221. # [01:07] <mihneadb> Mook_as: thanks
222. # [01:07] <mbrubeck> jez: I have no idea what's up with that. I guess maybe stick with the nsIDOMetc. for now? :/
223. # [01:08] <mbrubeck> unless someone here knows what that error is about
224. # [01:09] <@khuey> mihneadb: yes
225. # [01:09] <mihneadb> ty
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231. # [01:12] <taras> bsmedberg: why is your jydoop post showing up on planet?
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235. # [01:13] <mbrubeck> because http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/feed/ lists it with today's date
236. # [01:14] <mbrubeck> <updated>2013-09-03T21:32:55Z</updated>
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279. # [01:43] <seth> argh
280. # [01:43] <cpeterson> argh
281. # [01:43] <seth> once again, the fact that you can't have nsRefPtr<const T> forces me to rip a bunch of 'const' out of my code
282. # [01:44] <seth> i really need to fix that
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284. # [01:44] <cpeterson> C++ does not allow you to delete a const pointer, so what does an nsRefPtr<const T> mean?
285. # [01:44] <cpeterson> s/does/would/
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287. # [01:45] <seth> cpeterson: why would it not?
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292. # [01:47] <jgilbert> seth: deleting it changes it, does it not?
293. # [01:47] <Mook_as> does nsRefPtr<const T> mean you can't change the refcnt on T? Or is that a constant-pointer-to-non-constant-T?
294. # [01:47] <seth> (we're resolving this with a duel like gentlemen)
295. # [01:47] * Mook_as can never remember
296. # [01:47] <jgilbert> nsRefPtr<const T> should be able to change its refcnt, but not actually delete its ptr
297. # [01:49] <seth> Mook_as, jgilbert, no, you can change the refcount _and_ delete
298. # [01:49] <seth> that's fine
299. # [01:49] <jgilbert> weird
300. # [01:49] <@khuey> only if we mark all the refcounts as mutable, no?
301. # [01:49] <+dholbert> which we don't, AFAICT
302. # [01:49] <@khuey> nope
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306. # [01:51] <seth> khuey, we should tho =)
307. # [01:51] <cpeterson> seth++
308. # [01:51] <jgilbert> yes
309. # [01:51] <cpeterson> seth wins
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313. # [01:53] <@khuey> nothing like a little find . -name "*.pyc" -exec rm -rf {} \;
314. # [01:53] <@khuey> to brighten up my day
315. # [01:55] <+decoder> philor: if the asan tests currently run on cedar, should I land the debug jit-test fix to that branch?
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326. # [01:58] <philor> decoder: nope, cedar merges from m-c, it doesn't ever come back
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328. # [01:59] <philor> decoder: push to try, -b d -p linux64-asan -u none -t none, or if you're certain, just push to inbound and wait for it to merge over
329. # [01:59] * philor tries to remember whether the trychooser bug is assigned to him
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331. # [01:59] <KWierso|Sheriff> or wait for inbound to reopen after this cluster of wonderfullness has passed :)
332. # [02:00] <philor> well, yeah, that too
333. # [02:01] <philor> I figure there's an implied "wait for it to reopen and" in front of every "push to inbound"
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351. # [02:12] <+daleharvey> attempting to write a test which simulated mouse events, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2967566
352. # [02:12] <+daleharvey> the click is never fired
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358. # [02:15] <mbrubeck> daleharvey: Have you tried taking out the link and/or button to make sure they aren't responsible?
359. # [02:16] <+daleharvey> mbrubeck: nope but just tried that now, no luck
360. # [02:16] <mbrubeck> daleharvey: <body> has default margins I think; could you be clicking outside it? (Try window.addEventListener("click", ...))
361. # [02:17] <mbrubeck> daleharvey: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/style/html.css#117
362. # [02:17] <+daleharvey> well I had margin: 0, padding: 0 in there, but that worked
363. # [02:17] <mbrubeck> hmm
364. # [02:18] <mbrubeck> does "* { margin: 0; padding: 0; }" override that or is "body" more specific than "*"?
365. # [02:18] <+daleharvey> actually, I am firing the event on window, not document body
366. # [02:18] <mbrubeck> no, synthesizeMouseEvent should end up clicking whatever element is under that point
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368. # [02:18] <mbrubeck> it just takes a window in order to get the nsIDOMWindowUtils, if I remember right
369. # [02:18] <mbrubeck> Yeah, the problem is the margin
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371. # [02:19] <mbrubeck> try "body { margin: 0; }" instead of "* { margin: 0; }"
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373. # [02:19] <mbrubeck> or just change "5, 5" to "10, 10"
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377. # [02:20] <+daleharvey> nope, only working when I listen on window
378. # [02:21] <+daleharvey> but its working, so good enough for me for now :)
379. # [02:21] <+decoder> philor: okay ill push to inbound, thx
380. # [02:21] <+daleharvey> cheers
381. # [02:21] <+decoder> once it's open^^
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385. # [02:22] <glandium> who's sheriff at this time of day?
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387. # [02:23] <KWierso|Sheriff> glandium: hi
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389. # [02:23] <glandium> KWierso|Sheriff: hey, can i land an android-only change to beta?
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393. # [02:24] <KWierso|Sheriff> glandium: I think so. Just note that there's currently some flakiness with android, linux and b2g slaves on the east coast :)
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395. # [02:25] <glandium> what kind of flakiness?
396. # [02:25] <KWierso|Sheriff> builds and tests randomly failing
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398. # [02:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/34edd639e3d9 - Mike Hommey - Backout bug 848764 because of bug 886736 and bug 907957 on a CLOSED TREE. a=bajaj
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418. # [02:36] <+daleharvey> oh wow, this test works
419. # [02:36] <+daleharvey> thats ... surprising :)
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421. # [02:37] <nthomas> KWierso|Sheriff: what test failures do you mean ? I've been working on this as build slave problem only
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423. # [02:38] <KWierso|Sheriff> nthomas: not sure if it's related, but I'm seeing failures like https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27344977&tree=Fx-Team
424. # [02:38] <KWierso|Sheriff> across several trees
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427. # [02:38] * @njn reckons ccache stresses his disk cache so much that lots of disk-bound operations, like |hg diff|, become a lot slower
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429. # [02:39] * @njn can't wait to get that new machine with an SSD
430. # [02:41] <+daleharvey> so the only way I currently know how to enable apzc is via the attribute on newly created mozbrowser frames
431. # [02:41] <+daleharvey> is there any way to enable it on a plain mochitest page?
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443. # [02:49] <seth> why do we have wtf in the tree? isn't that webkit's equivalent of mfbt?
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447. # [02:51] <seth> Mook_as, yeah.. was wondering what we brought in from webkit
448. # [02:52] <@njn> seth: js/src/assembler and js/src/yarr use it
449. # [02:52] <seth> njn: interesting, thanks!
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638. # [04:28] <seth> cpeterson: heh, i realized while walking out the door that the const_cast in that patch wasn't needed. it's now 100% clean!
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642. # [04:29] <cpeterson> const correct!
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644. # [04:29] <seth> \o/
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652. # [04:34] <briansmith> I am setting up a Mac to build Firefox. bootstrap.py is asking me "MacPorts or Homebrew". I don't care. Which one should I pick?
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661. # [04:38] <@dolske> homebrew is newer, I asked legneato about it a while back and he had a low opinion of homebrew (although it's apparently the new hotness)
662. # [04:38] <@dolske> I think I'm using macports.
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665. # [04:39] <@dolske> tbh I'm not sure how homebrew became an option or why it's a useful alternative.
666. # [04:40] <@dolske> in conclusion, I like beer.
667. # [04:40] <@dolske> wait, what?
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672. # [04:44] <gps> briansmith: use homebrew
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674. # [04:45] <briansmith> Thanks dolske and gps. I choice MacPorts. Let's see if it matters
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676. # [04:46] <KWierso|Sheriff> trees reopened, please be gentle
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678. # [04:48] <mihneadb> gps: do you use something like ctrl P (fuzzy file search) for vim?
679. # [04:49] <gps> mihneadb: ask rnewman all your vim questions :)
680. # [04:49] <mihneadb> gps: I don't have vim questions, I was intending to benchmark it against some other stuff
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682. # [04:49] <mihneadb> I am trying the textmate 2 alpha and it seems like it's way faster (trying it on m-c)
683. # [04:50] <gps> mihneadb: just don't use grep on OS X
684. # [04:50] <gps> "install ack"
685. # [04:50] <mihneadb> gps: even better https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher
686. # [04:50] <mihneadb> quote - The command name is 33% shorter than ack!
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691. # [04:52] <gps> wow, that is pretty fast \o/
692. # [04:52] <mihneadb> it's a nice tool
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696. # [04:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7bd607173a2d - Gregory Szorc - Bug 911362 - FileCopier support for not removing unreferenced files; r=glandium
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698. # [04:56] <gps> mihneadb: have a look at bug 657507
699. # [04:56] <mihneadb> "If you're building with PCRE 8.21 or greater, regex searches use the JIT compiler."
700. # [04:56] <mihneadb> ok
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703. # [04:57] <mihneadb> gps: ok.. ?
704. # [04:57] <gps> mihneadb: that may allow the xpcshell tests to catch syntax errors better
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706. # [04:57] <mihneadb> I ll try tomorrow
707. # [04:58] <mihneadb> I also haev to do my presentation tomorrow
708. # [04:58] <mihneadb> tough work
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710. # [04:58] <mihneadb> any suggestions btw?
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712. # [04:58] <glandium> gps, mihneadb: fwiw, it seems slower than git grep, here
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714. # [04:58] <glandium> 3 times slower
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716. # [04:58] <mihneadb> glandium: not sure it's a fair benchmark
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718. # [04:59] <mihneadb> I mean git-grep is specific to your git repo
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720. # [04:59] <mihneadb> whereas ag/ack/ &co work anywhere
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724. # [05:01] <glandium> mmm i thought git grep could be used outside git, looks like it can't. i must have mixed with git diff
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728. # [05:02] <mihneadb> that's why it is fast, it already has the data :)
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732. # [05:04] <glandium> mihneadb: actually, it doesn't use the repo data when doing a git grep without a committish
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734. # [05:04] <mihneadb> glandium: I haven't looked at the source code but I'd be surprised if it did not take advantage of the data that it (git) already has about the files :S
735. # [05:05] <glandium> mihneadb: it has nothing about their content besides commits, and git grep foo HEAD is way slower than git grep foo
736. # [05:06] <mihneadb> for one it ignores untracked files
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741. # [05:06] <mihneadb> I'm curious to check the source, why would it be so fast if it's not doing any blob magic
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744. # [05:07] <glandium> mihneadb: i'd say, because linus knows his kernel
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746. # [05:07] <mihneadb> heh that too
747. # [05:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/122fae1d279e - Matthew Gregan - Bug 911052 - Use decoder's IsDataCachedToEndOfResource instead of resource's version. r=cpearce
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749. # [05:08] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d5b67c93e1a0 - Matthew Gregan - Bug 911059 - Move WebAudio's BufferDecoder to its own file so it can be shared with MSE. r=cpearce
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760. # [05:11] <nrc> many moons ago I somehow configured Firefox to spew when it was doing GC. I can't remember how I did it. Does anmyone know how to make it stop?
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765. # [05:13] <@dolske> nrc: there's a pref, I don't remember what it's called.
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767. # [05:14] <terrence> nrc: javascript.options.mem.log
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771. # [05:14] <nrc> awesome, thank you!
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786. # [05:25] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cc6f66e761d8 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 896797 - Part 2: Don't list autogenerated files in EXPORTS; r=glandium
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871. # [06:33] <heycam> be nice if git stopped me from doing a 'git commit --amend' in the middle of a rebase
872. # [06:33] <heycam> accidentally squashed two patches together on two separate occassions this week doing that
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876. # [06:37] <philor> hrm
877. # [06:38] <philor> say you're looking at the test queue on trychooser for macosx64 - do you want to see the max(10.6, 10.7, 10.8) that we show you, or the sum?
878. # [06:39] <philor> say you're looking at the test queue for "emulator" that we don't show you at all, which runs some tests on ec2 Ubuntu64 slaves, and some tests on Fedora64 slaves, do you want to see the max of those two, or the sum?
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880. # [06:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e9df5541b113 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 911889. Part 1: Fix mutationUpdate mutation count for first as well as subsequent mutations. r=benwa
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882. # [06:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/82570baff149 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 909603. Remove invalid assertion. r=tn
883. # [06:41] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/77f91c65d162 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 877135. Remove leftover test. r=doublec
884. # [06:41] <philor> say you're looking at fixing up tryload.js, do you want to run away, or just turn your head away?
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886. # [06:43] <philor> linux currently shows the test load for debug browser-chrome because it only shows Fedora and that's all we run on them, max or sum?
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890. # [06:44] <philor> gps: bustage
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903. # [06:53] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/49c8cb0df337 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out cc6f66e761d8 (bug 896797) for Windows build bustage
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931. # [07:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5298dd852af0 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 911375 - Part 1: Add support for optional existing files; r=glandium
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945. # [07:26] <KWierso> philor: you wouldn't happen to have a b2g-inbound tree handy, would you?
946. # [07:27] <philor> no idea, let me see
947. # [07:27] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6baf14826ea3 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 911957 - Handle build output between BUILDSTATUS events; r=glandium
948. # [07:28] <philor> thanks to my deep devotion to it, a mere 527 csets behind
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950. # [07:28] <KWierso> better than mine, I've been away from it for a week and a half
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953. # [07:32] <KWierso> philor: thanks :)
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956. # [07:35] * KWierso looks at beta
957. # [07:35] <KWierso> :|
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959. # [07:37] <heycam> anybody else noticed that Firefox for Android has a problem where if you switch back to it from another application it just shows a white screen (and you have to quit it from the task manager)?
960. # [07:38] <heycam> just in the last couple of days
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966. # [07:44] <fabrice> !seen brson
967. # [07:44] <firebot> brson was last seen 14 weeks, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying 'mccr8, Jesse: thanks for the help' in #developers.
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969. # [07:45] <Jesse> !seen brson_
970. # [07:45] <firebot> brson_ was last seen 49 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes and 7 seconds ago, changing nick to brson.
971. # [07:45] <Jesse> fabrice: he's on as brson_ in #rust
972. # [07:45] <fabrice> Jesse: thanks!
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979. # [07:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ae9f95fc1136 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 896797 - Part 2: Don't list autogenerated files in EXPORTS; r=glandium
980. # [07:49] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ce03cc2994aa - Gregory Szorc - Bug 896797 - Part 3: Use install manifests for managing dist/include; r=glandium
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991. # [07:57] <glandium> heycam: i've had that for more than a week, i think
992. # [07:57] <glandium> heycam: no idea if there's an open bug, though
993. # [07:57] <heycam> yeah I guess I should search
994. # [07:59] * heycam can't see anything
995. # [07:59] <glandium> heycam: file and cc me ;)
996. # [07:59] <heycam> sure thing
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1001. # [08:02] <heycam> (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=912354)
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1004. # [08:05] <philor> roc: bustage
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1008. # [08:06] <philor> well, "off by one in the antialiasing of Hello Kitty," sort of like bustage
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1010. # [08:06] <Callek> ooo so pink kitty of death?
1011. # [08:07] <philor> pale blue kitty of back-you-out-over-nothing
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1013. # [08:07] <Callek> well thats not as much fun
1014. # [08:07] <Callek> I like pink things
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1016. # [08:07] <philor> gps: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27354345&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
1017. # [08:07] <@roc> looking
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1025. # [08:09] <@roc> I need to re-add fails-if(layersGPUAccelerated&&cocoaWidget) there
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1027. # [08:10] <@roc> can I do that on the CLOSED TREE?
1028. # [08:10] <philor> sure
1029. # [08:10] <philor> just closed because I don't know whether or not gps is going to fail everything, or only spidermonkey shell builds
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1033. # [08:12] <philor> not that it's going to change my solution, though
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1040. # [08:16] <firebot> Check-in:
1041. # [08:16] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b23aae5cb0c2 - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 911889. Updating reftest manifest; the tests that were passing due to 894773 being fixed are now failing again since we've backed off on that fix .... on a
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1044. # [08:19] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/28c308fbc854 - Phil Ringnalda - Back out ce03cc2994aa:ae9f95fc1136 (bug 896797) for SpiderMonkey shell build bustage
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1050. # [08:20] <glandium> i'm fine with js shell bustage leading to backout, but why the hell are they not displayed on tbpl by default, then?
1051. # [08:21] <philor> because they don't want to always fix their test failures right away
1052. # [08:22] <glandium> that sounds like a poor excuse to me
1053. # [08:22] <philor> like a pretty high percentage of our tests and builds, "if we break it, that's fine, but if you break it, you bastards, get your busted crap out of the tree"
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1055. # [08:22] <philor> it's possible we could make them visible now, it's a different set of js hackers than it was then
1056. # [08:23] <philor> except, of course, for the Mac ones, which have been burning for some undefined time longer than six months
1057. # [08:23] <gps> philor: I don't see any colors in tbpl. how did you find that log?
1058. # [08:23] <philor> gps: &showall=1
1059. # [08:24] <gps> so now we're backing out due to hidden builders?
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1061. # [08:24] <philor> yep
1062. # [08:24] <gps> when did that policy change?
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1064. # [08:24] <philor> it's even possible that I'm wrong, and it's only bustage of the way they are built by releng, and not bustage of what every js hacker builds
1065. # [08:25] <philor> I doubt that it did change, it just happens faster when I'm around, because I pay no attention to the silly hiding of things
1066. # [08:25] <philor> say you did break js shell builds, so that tomorrow morning every single jsengine person is unable to build
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1068. # [08:25] <philor> will you stay in the tree?
1069. # [08:26] <glandium> philor: i don't know how js hackers are building nspr, but they could have the same problem
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1071. # [08:26] <bkero> clearly we need to rewrite nspr and nss in javascript
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1076. # [08:28] <bkero> find mozilla-central -type f -not -name '*.js'|wc -l
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1078. # [08:28] <gps> wtf
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1080. # [08:28] <glandium> gps: i think the problem is "simply" that dist/include contains nspr headers, and that process_install_manifest removes them. The problem is that putting a --no-remove on incremental js builds will also leave dead includes in dist/include :(
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1084. # [08:30] <gps> glandium: look at the build log
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1086. # [08:30] <gps> i'm pretty sure the commands to perform the build are not coming from in-tree but rather a mozharness config
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1088. # [08:30] <glandium> gps: yes
1089. # [08:30] <glandium> gps: because standalone js doesn't know nspr
1090. # [08:30] <gps> fuck this
1091. # [08:31] <philor> did they switch to mozharness? last time I looked, it was spidermonkey.sh :)
1092. # [08:31] <glandium> the problem is they use the same dist directory
1093. # [08:31] <gps> what point is a build system if it isn't checked into the tree
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1095. # [08:31] <gps> there is no spidermonkey.sh in the tree
1096. # [08:31] <glandium> gps: we don't have everything in the tree, even for desktop builds
1097. # [08:32] <glandium> i just wish we switched js to use the main configure, so that we wouldn't have to go through excessive hoops for nspr and mfbt
1098. # [08:32] <philor> http://hg.mozilla.org/build/tools/file/default/scripts/spidermonkey_builds/spidermonkey.sh
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1100. # [08:32] <gps> glandium: at least desktop goes through client.mk for most build steps
1101. # [08:32] <glandium> gps: except l10n
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1103. # [08:33] <glandium> and a few others
1104. # [08:33] <gps> so we need to do some deployment dance with releng to get all this stuff staged out before build system changes can land
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1115. # [08:35] <philor> the nice thing about tools/ is that there's no real dancing
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1121. # [08:36] <philor> no reconfig, land, builds clone it
1122. # [08:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3cf5058f6296 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 896797 - Part 2: Don't list autogenerated files in EXPORTS; r=glandium
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1137. # [08:53] <glandium> who said google was going to have trademark issues? http://www.kitkat.com/
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1139. # [08:53] <gps> philor: please note the latest hidden js builder bustage is due to a llvm crash, not me :)
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1141. # [08:54] <philor> gps: I can't fail to note it, I've been starring that one and the previous flavor of it since April 16th
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1144. # [08:54] <philor> but I'm not proud. or tired.
1145. # [08:54] <gps> it's a clang/llvm bug. has it been filed upstream?
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1147. # [08:58] <Callek> glandium: I said I was surprised they were granted a trademark use... I didn't say they were going to have TM issues
1148. # [08:58] <glandium> Callek: i'm sure someone else said it here
1149. # [08:59] <glandium> gps: iirc yes
1150. # [08:59] <Callek> ooo I said it in the fox channel
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1214. # [09:53] <KWierso> glandium: I'm heading out, but do you have any idea what's up with that push you did to beta? like, at first, I thought it was just the network glitches from earlier, but it seems like it's pretty consistent, even now that things have settled down... :(
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1217. # [09:54] <glandium> KWierso: :( let me download a build and see what happens
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1219. # [09:55] <heycam> I rebased my tree on top of the latest m-c, and now I can't run firefox under gdb
1220. # [09:55] <heycam> this is on Mac, building with clang, using apple gdb
1221. # [09:55] <heycam> is this a known problem?
1222. # [09:55] <heycam> "Program exited with code 06."
1223. # [09:55] <heycam> but not under gdb is fine
1224. # [09:55] <glandium> heycam: 911771
1225. # [09:55] <heycam> glandium, ah thanks :)
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1238. # [10:07] <NeilAway> glandium: *groan*
1239. # [10:07] <glandium> NeilAway: what?
1240. # [10:07] <NeilAway> glandium: kitkat
1241. # [10:08] <NeilAway> e.g. "available in 2 mega-bite or 4 mega-bite options"
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1243. # [10:11] <glandium> gps: still around?
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1279. # [10:35] <NeilAway> glandium: gps's platform post had me worried, thanks for your follow-up ;-)
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1281. # [10:35] <NeilAway> glandium: so, is the idea to get rid of recursive make export?
1282. # [10:35] <glandium> NeilAway: eventually, yes
1283. # [10:35] <glandium> but there are still too many things it does
1284. # [10:36] <glandium> but we're going to make it much faster soon
1285. # [10:36] <NeilAway> glandium: explicitly or implicitly?
1286. # [10:36] * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen
1287. # [10:36] <NeilAway> glandium: (that was in reference to the many things it does)
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1290. # [10:37] <glandium> NeilAway: there are plenty of places with adhoc export rules
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1292. # [10:38] <glandium> they should, however be easy to spot, now
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1297. # [10:42] <NeilAway> ooh, I have mp3 support on XP :-) who do I ++ ?
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1301. # [10:45] <teoli> NeilAway: Ralph Giles ( Bug 865553 )
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1306. # [10:48] <padenot> NeilAway, teoli, this is cpearce in bug 861693
1307. # [10:49] <teoli> padenot: oups sorry, misread the bug name
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1310. # [10:49] <teoli> padenot: ralph is cool too :-)
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1312. # [10:51] <padenot> sure he is :-)
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1317. # [10:57] <nicklebedev> Hi guys, could someone help me with touch events logic?
1318. # [10:57] <nicklebedev> i'm trying to detect whether touch was made to scroll vertically or horizontally
1319. # [10:57] <nicklebedev> is there any logic for such purpose?
1320. # [10:58] <nicklebedev> more specifically i need it on the DOM level
1321. # [10:58] <nicklebedev> not in things like APZC
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1323. # [10:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f88c529008d0 - Jonathan Kew - bug 910376 - don't risk leaving mSharedBlobData uninitialized. r=karlt
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1335. # [11:10] <NeilAway> hmm, what's the paint layer for outlines?
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1357. # [11:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1a046ece14db - Jonathan Watt - Bug 912385 - Include a trailing slash in File.path. r=sicking
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1371. # [11:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5371262398a0 - Christian Holler - Bug 910486 - Disable a slow jit-test under ASan+debug. r=h4writer
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1374. # [11:47] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: is there something wrong with tbpl?
1375. # [11:47] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/47b8ffe6ecc4 - Jonathan Kew - bug 909264 - control characters in the location bar should be %-encoded for visibility. r=gavin
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1378. # [11:47] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: i have a bunch of green builds according to selfserver that don't show up on try tbpl
1379. # [11:48] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: link?
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1381. # [11:48] <glandium> btw, it's nice that it's now possible to go to the build directory when a build is still grey, but it's not helpful when the build is neither grey nor red/orange/green (as in: when it's simply not displayed at all)
1382. # [11:49] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: for example: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Try&rev=543184c71601 https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/buildapi/self-serve/try/rev/543184c71601
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1384. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Bonjour
1385. # [11:49] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: looking
1386. # [11:50] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: sigh, yes, builds-4hr.js.gz is broken
1387. # [11:50] <edmorley|sheriff> https://secure.pub.build.mozilla.org/builddata/buildjson/
1388. # [11:50] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: ty
1389. # [11:50] <edmorley|sheriff> last update was 1 hr ago
1390. # [11:51] <Ms2ger> Again?
1391. # [11:51] <edmorley|sheriff> yes
1392. # [11:51] <@dbaron> glandium, btw, it's possible my example in dev-platform was wrong ... if xpcom is in the same tier as layout now
1393. # [11:51] <glandium> dbaron: i don't remember it ever being in a different tier
1394. # [11:52] <glandium> but my memory could be wrong
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1396. # [11:52] <@dbaron> glandium, I think it was originally
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1398. # [11:52] <glandium> it at least means it's been a while it isn't
1399. # [11:52] <Ms2ger> dbaron, you'be been around for a while now ;)
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1405. # [11:55] <glandium> indeed, xpcom used to be in its own tier https://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/xpcom/build.mk
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1407. # [11:56] <glandium> dbaron: that was changed in bug 528250
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1411. # [11:57] <glandium> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b7b5c61b1af8
1412. # [11:58] <glandium> which means my memory doesn't go as far as 4 years ago :(
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1415. # [12:01] <Yoric> Where should I file about:home bugs?
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1420. # [12:04] <edmorley|sheriff> Note: all trees (apart from Try) closed due to infra issues
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1422. # [12:04] <edmorley|sheriff> Try is open, and jobs will be running, they just won't appear on TBPL straight away once completed
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1424. # [12:05] <RealRaven> Does anybody know who Archaeopteryx is? I forgot...
1425. # [12:05] <RealRaven> ... and can;'t find him at https://mozillians.org/en-US/search/?q=Archaeopteryx
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1428. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> !seen Archaeopteryx
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1430. # [12:08] <firebot> archaeopteryx was last seen 12 hours, 24 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying 'moztrap killed my firefox :/' in #tb-qa.
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1432. # [12:08] <Ms2ger> I had a hunch he'd be a comm-central guy
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1440. # [12:12] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: whoa, bz's comment count *is* scary
1441. # [12:12] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, quite :)
1442. # [12:12] <RealRaven> Ms2ger: yeahI now found him : https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/Archaeopteryx/
1443. # [12:12] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, and the worst part is that they're all thoughtful
1444. # [12:13] <NeilAway> Ms2ger: aren't everyone's?
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1446. # [12:13] <Ms2ger> NeilAway, well, tbplbot...
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1448. # [12:16] <edmorley|sheriff> lol
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1454. # [12:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> so, I feel like I should be reporting a *MASSIVE* perf issue on a game on mobile
1455. # [12:20] <gabor> what's up with inbound?
1456. # [12:20] <mjrosenb|ARM> but it crashes too much.
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1459. # [12:22] <edmorley|sheriff> gabor: see message
1460. # [12:23] <edmorley|sheriff> (both tbpl & the hg tree closure hook print the message, which is linking to a bug :-))
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1462. # [12:24] <edmorley|sheriff> and now as the completed jobs start being loaded, the bustage appears lol
1463. # [12:25] <Ms2ger> Duh
1464. # [12:25] * edmorley|sheriff backs out his manager
1465. # [12:25] <Ms2ger> Good thing that that's your job
1466. # [12:25] <edmorley|sheriff> turning into khuey
1467. # [12:26] <gabor> edmorley: but that bug seemed to be fixed...
1468. # [12:26] <Yoric> Pfew, just spent three days tracking down a bug that had been bissected to OS.File and was actually completely unrelated (race condition in a e10s refactoring).
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1470. # [12:28] <edmorley|sheriff> gabor: timestamps
1471. # [12:29] <gabor> edmorely: ah yeah... that's where I'm failing usually :)
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1473. # [12:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e1976a0ce384 - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 69be1a2ffd39 (bug 912244) for Marionette failures on a CLOSED TREE
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1475. # [12:30] * gabor converting timestamps, but can already guess the result
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1480. # [12:33] <edmorley|sheriff> gabor: converting? b.m.o has a timezone preference you can set, if that helps? :-)
1481. # [12:34] <gabor> edmorley: hah... it might help in that I might look at them in the future some more...
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1485. # [12:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f12a3d9e4cd6 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 911862 - Make VectorImage use the refresh driver to send out frame change notifications. r=dholbert
1486. # [12:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c690d9998f7 - Jonathan Watt - Bug 907503 - Test that invalidation works for SMIL animation in SVG-as-an-image. r=longsonr
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1499. # [12:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f5743e7da436 - Gabor Krizsanits - Bug 892203 - Minor cleanups in sandbox.cpp. r=bholley
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1518. # [13:09] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/43566dc5dfbb - Robert O'Callahan - Bug 904926. Remove unnecessary lock. r=cpearce
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1524. # [13:15] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2c25d2bbbcd6 - Yaron Tausky - Bug 911954 - Add forward declaration of JSScript to TraceLogging.h, r=h4writer
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1536. # [13:22] <Ms2ger> RealRaven, he's here, btw
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1543. # [13:31] <@ted> huh
1544. # [13:31] <@ted> we export a bunch of WebRTC symbols in xul.dll
1545. # [13:32] <@dbaron> do we intend to?
1546. # [13:32] <@ted> i'm guessing no
1547. # [13:32] <@ted> nothing actually needs to link to these
1548. # [13:32] <@ted> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/media/webrtc/trunk/webrtc/common_types.h#22
1549. # [13:32] <@ted> probably an artifact of the upstream webrtc build system
1550. # [13:33] * @ted files a bug
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1554. # [13:35] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: pgo bustage (https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27366503&tree=Mozilla-Inbound) could this be from https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8090e534656a ?
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1556. # [13:36] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: regression range is https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&jobname=pgo&fromchange=28c308fbc854&tochange=47b8ffe6ecc4
1557. # [13:36] <@ted> filed bug 912450 on that
1558. # [13:36] <@ted> (webrtc stuff)
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1563. # [13:40] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: sounds plausible
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1566. # [13:42] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1faf7273eaae - Ed Morley - Backed out changeset 8090e534656a (bug 896797) on suspicion of causing bug 912451 on a CLOSED TREE
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1569. # [13:50] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c50dc9643c47 - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 908344 - Fix bookmark keywords. r=wesj
1570. # [13:50] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/06dad82dbb36 - Ed Morley - Merge latest green fx-team changeset and mozilla-central
1571. # [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/04aa8c1ab6bb - Felipe Gomes - Bug 899348 - Dispatch an event when an out-of-process browser crashes and display an error page when that occurs. r=bz
1572. # [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7298863a7a28 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 899348 - Implement about:tabcrashed page. r=jaws
1573. # [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/021cf0a2602a - Margaret Leibovic - Bug 908344 - Test for bookmark keyword. r=wesj
1574. # [13:51] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7d8523c3dc57 - Felipe Gomes - Bug 899348 - Make reload of the about:tabcrashed work as expected. r=jaws
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1597. # [14:09] <Yoric> In the chrome, is there a good way to wait until some tab has been closed?
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1600. # [14:09] <Standard8> iirc there's a close tab listener isn't there?
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1610. # [14:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/c2d6fe54ec13 - Adrian Lungu - Bug 887984 - Send telemetry data from NTLM Init() methods. r=honzab, a=bajaj, ba=jorgev
1611. # [14:17] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/d15755cbe3cd - Brendan Dahl - Bug 890259 - Use text widget annotation appearance stream if it is available. r=yury, a=bajaj
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1613. # [14:17] <RyanVM> bjacob: edmorley's on the hook for this closure ;) :P
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1615. # [14:20] <jesup> ted: the plan was to move media/webrtc/trunk to gkmedias eventually, which would require accessing the syms from xul (in webrtc/signaling); but right now the export is I think a leftover of trying to have webrtc & signaling & mtransport in gkmedia (which failed due to number of xul dependencies in signaling IIRC)
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1617. # [14:21] <jesup> ted: so likely we can remove it now, and add it again when/if we move it to gkmedia (it's not PGO'd now IIRC)
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1631. # [14:35] <@ted> jesup: gotcha
1632. # [14:35] <@ted> jesup: PGO is opt-in right now
1633. # [14:35] <@ted> so it's assuredly not
1634. # [14:35] <jesup> ted: right
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1637. # [14:37] <avih> can i use persona to login to wiki.mozilla.org?
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1646. # [14:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/b2beae751b6e - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 887984 - Bustage fix. a=bustage
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1650. # [14:53] <yzen> Yoric: ping
1651. # [14:53] <Yoric> yzen: pong
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1654. # [14:54] <yzen> Yoric: re 866293, i was looking at logs and i was wondering if increasing the timeout would do the trick?
1655. # [14:55] * Yoric takes a look.
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1658. # [14:57] <Yoric> The first thing to do would be to determine which of the promises is rejected.
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1660. # [14:58] <Yoric> Mmmh...
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1663. # [14:58] <Yoric> The promise should have been rejected.
1664. # [14:58] <Yoric> So we should have had a timeout.
1665. # [14:59] <Yoric> Increasing the timeout probably won't help.
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1667. # [15:00] <mrbkap> Wow, that bugmail went to three people.
1668. # [15:00] * mrbkap wonders if that's a record for him.
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1671. # [15:03] <yzen> Yoric: ok ill take a look deeper then
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1706. # [15:40] <bjacob> smaug: r? for the webgl leak
1707. # [15:40] <@smaug> bjacob: oh, if you have patch ready, I can r
1708. # [15:41] <@smaug> bjacob: did you test it?
1709. # [15:41] * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen
1710. # [15:41] <bjacob> smaug: building now
1711. # [15:41] <bjacob> smaug: but it's clear that this is needed, at least (whether that is enough is another q)
1712. # [15:41] <@smaug> k
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1714. # [15:42] <Ms2ger> seth++
1715. # [15:43] <bjacob> smaug: also, when we can use variadic templates, we can make the CC macros a lot nicer ;-)
1716. # [15:43] <bjacob> no more _13
1717. # [15:43] <Ms2ger> When's that?
1718. # [15:43] <bjacob> i dont know
1719. # [15:43] <Ms2ger> MSVC 2019?
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1721. # [15:44] <bz> I thought glandium had a patch to do that now
1722. # [15:44] <Waldo> bjacob: we have variadic templates, so those could be nicer if someone took the time
1723. # [15:44] <bz> with variadic macros
1724. # [15:44] <Waldo> er
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1726. # [15:44] <bjacob> Waldo: oh? i didnt know!
1727. # [15:44] <Waldo> yes, variadic macros
1728. # [15:44] <Waldo> bjacob: sorry, misspoke
1729. # [15:44] <bjacob> oh ok
1730. # [15:45] <Waldo> variadic macros are finicky due to MSVC's support being buggy, but they can get the job done
1731. # [15:45] <bjacob> bz: interesting, i wonder how to fix that with only variadic macros
1732. # [15:45] <bz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=900903
1733. # [15:45] <bjacob> thanks
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1736. # [15:46] <bz> No problem.
1737. # [15:47] <bjacob> oh, yes, that works... cool!
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1739. # [15:47] <bz> ugh
1740. # [15:47] <bz> no more make export in non-toplevel?
1741. # [15:47] <Ms2ger> See the newsgroup
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1745. # [15:49] <bz> That's what I meant
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1747. # [15:49] <Ms2ger> Ah
1748. # [15:49] * bz sighs
1749. # [15:49] <bz> We'll see how annoying this is
1750. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> Stuff is hard
1751. # [15:50] <bz> (if make export didn't take frigging forever....)
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1753. # [15:50] <glandium> bz: i'm blocked on msvc and gcc essentially requiring opposite things for the macros to expand properly :(
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1755. # [15:51] <Waldo> glandium: your MacroHelpers patch there works with gcc but not with MSVC?
1756. # [15:51] <bjacob> smaug: btw, sorry, didnt see your comment where you said that you were making a patch
1757. # [15:51] <glandium> Waldo: the one in that bug probably works for both, but it fails miserably for the xpcom stuff
1758. # [15:51] <Waldo> hum
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1760. # [15:52] <Waldo> it took a lot of finicking to get the MOZ_ASSERT stuff working
1761. # [15:52] <bz> glandium: :(
1762. # [15:52] <Waldo> MSVC apparently likes to expand __VA_ARGS as if it were a single argument, when passed to macro invocations
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1766. # [15:53] <glandium> Waldo: and to complicate things, macro expansion is very different between gcc and msvc
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1770. # [15:53] <glandium> in fact, gcc's seems to follow the standard, and msvc's is laxists. which actually is helpful
1771. # [15:54] <glandium> i'll have to revisit these patches to see what's left
1772. # [15:54] <@smaug> bjacob: np. my patch was exactly the same what yours is
1773. # [15:54] <@smaug> but stopped compiling
1774. # [15:55] <@smaug> so please test
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1777. # [15:56] <bz> ryanvm++
1778. # [15:57] <RyanVM> \m/
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1781. # [15:58] <bz> ryanvm: Just seeing the "fixed in b2g18" mails go by. ;)
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1783. # [15:59] <RyanVM> :)
1784. # [15:59] <RyanVM> the esr17 export applied w/o conflict
1785. # [15:59] <Waldo> RyanVM: should 901351 be landing in 1.1 or something or other, or is my landing enough?
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1787. # [15:59] <RyanVM> Waldo: b2g18 is fine (and you actually push raced me on it :P )
1788. # [16:00] <Waldo> *yoink*
1789. # [16:00] <Waldo> people pushing their own patches, I know it's a novel concept
1790. # [16:00] <RyanVM> Waldo: it'll eventually be landed on the v1.1hd branch as well, but we handle that via merges
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1793. # [16:00] <Waldo> excellent
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1795. # [16:01] <Waldo> my work here is finished
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1797. # [16:01] <bz> waldo: people pushing own backports, what?
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1799. # [16:01] <bz> ryanvm++, like I said. ;)
1800. # [16:02] <RyanVM> I do what I can :)
1801. # [16:02] <Waldo> bz: "own creating the backport", "pushing their own", or something else? ;-)
1802. # [16:02] <Waldo> 'cause if I can foist that first on someone else, where do I sign up? ;-)
1803. # [16:02] <bz> waldo: pushing their own backports
1804. # [16:02] <Waldo> :-)
1805. # [16:03] <bz> waldo: RyanVM has been known to do merging for backports...
1806. # [16:03] <Waldo> JSAPI changes made the last backport work I did a royal mess
1807. # [16:03] <bz> waldo: and only bother the patch author if the merge is too nontrivial
1808. # [16:03] <Waldo> JSBool->bool, const Value&->JS::Handle<JS::Value>, other stuff
1809. # [16:03] <bz> waldo: But that's going way above and beyond. ;)
1810. # [16:03] <bz> waldo: jit -> ion
1811. # [16:03] <Waldo> Real American Hero
1812. # [16:03] <bz> waldo: js -> php ?
1813. # [16:03] <Waldo> bz: we're backporting the jit->ion renames
1814. # [16:04] <RyanVM> Waldo: if in doubt, I throw branch-patch-needed on the bug and get on with life
1815. # [16:04] <bz> Waldo: ah, nice
1816. # [16:04] <Waldo> bz: precisely because of that (although given the bool and other changes, I'm not sure how much it'll actually win us)
1817. # [16:04] <RyanVM> and I watch my pushes, so if I do miss something and it breaks, I backout and *then* put branch-patch-needed on :P
1818. # [16:04] * Waldo suggested the backport, then he had to do stuff that fell over entirely separate from ion->jit renames
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1821. # [16:04] <Waldo> watching pushes, pfft
1822. # [16:05] <glandium> bz: are you going to land a patch for 911771?
1823. # [16:05] <RyanVM> Waldo: like I said yesterday, I still think it was worth backporting as many of the renames to 24 as possible
1824. # [16:05] <Waldo> yeah, you could be rigth
1825. # [16:05] <Waldo> s/gth/ght/
1826. # [16:06] <RyanVM> Waldo: but anyway, with bug 901351, it already landed on esr17
1827. # [16:06] * Waldo suggests we drop all branches ever
1828. # [16:06] <RyanVM> and if it manages to land and build/pass tests there, b2g18 is pretty trivial
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1837. # [16:11] <@ehsan> do we build on Windows XP now?
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1840. # [16:12] <RyanVM> ehsan: "yes"
1841. # [16:12] <RyanVM> the builds are on server 2k3
1842. # [16:12] <RyanVM> which is more xp than 7
1843. # [16:12] <RyanVM> (WINNT 5.2)
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1845. # [16:13] <RyanVM> so we changed where it shows
1846. # [16:13] <@ehsan> haha
1847. # [16:13] <@ehsan> do people really think that windows version numbers mean something? ;)
1848. # [16:13] <RyanVM> ehsan: you probably noticed the win x64 change too...
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1850. # [16:13] <@ehsan> I actually have not
1851. # [16:14] <RyanVM> ehsan: in that case, does it really matter? 7 was essentially just as arbitrary
1852. # [16:14] <RyanVM> ehsan: I merged the build and test line
1853. # [16:14] <@ehsan> yeah, I know
1854. # [16:14] <@ehsan> it doesn't matter much!
1855. # [16:14] <@ehsan> I was just confused
1856. # [16:16] <bz> glandium: yes, I will
1857. # [16:16] <bz> glandium: probably in the next hour
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1859. # [16:16] <glandium> bz: thanks
1860. # [16:16] <@smaug> RyanVM: you rock
1861. # [16:16] <RyanVM> smaug: funny story
1862. # [16:17] <RyanVM> I actually screwed up bug 906301 a bit - I landed the follow-up bustage fix but not the original one :P
1863. # [16:17] <RyanVM> whoopsie
1864. # [16:17] <RyanVM> smaug: actually, other way around - I landed the busted fix w/o the bustage fix. gah
1865. # [16:18] <RyanVM> fail
1866. # [16:18] <bz> glandium: well, when the tree reopens... ;)
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1869. # [16:19] <bz> #ifdef PRINT_RANGE
1870. # [16:19] <bz> static void printRange(nsRange *aDomRange);
1871. # [16:19] <bz> #define DEBUG_OUT_RANGE(x) printRange(x)
1872. # [16:19] <bz> #else
1873. # [16:19] <bz> #define DEBUG_OUT_RANGE(x)
1874. # [16:19] <bz> #endif //MOZ_DEBUG
1875. # [16:19] * bz sighs
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1902. # [16:31] <edmorley|sheriff> RyanVM: gaia-ui-tests broken https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=B2g-Inbound&onlyunstarred=1&rev=c8c55f0fbd74
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1904. # [16:32] <BenWa> I see ~nsPresContext delete from the cycle collector, is it ok to delete that object off the main thread?
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1908. # [16:34] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriff: hmm
1909. # [16:34] <BenWa> ohh it defers the delete to the main thread nevermind.
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1914. # [16:35] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriff: i'm wondering if this needs a gaia push
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1924. # [16:40] <RyanVM> edmorley|sheriff: i'm going to hold off on closing b-i or backing that patch out until I get some kind of clue as to what needs doing
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1928. # [16:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/4b5789932294 - Mike Hommey - Bug 912377 - Fix build without MOZ_ENABLE_SZIP. r=ted
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1960. # [17:02] <julienw> hey, I get "Illegal operation on WrappedNative prototype object" when sending strings over TCPSocket... I think this is in XULRunner 26
1961. # [17:02] <julienw> any idea what could happen ?
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1985. # [17:16] <@bsmedberg> Is there a way in C++ to require explicit template types (prevent template inference)
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1988. # [17:18] <vladan> paolo: the metrics' slow sql dash is showing major reductions in main-thread SQL from the download manager in the last week compared to august.. did you guys land more patches recently?
1989. # [17:18] <+timeless> hsivonen: hey
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1992. # [17:19] <+timeless> xml-stylesheet <parsererror hasBrowserHandlers="true"> XML Parsing Error: unexpected parser state Locatio… <sourcetext> <div id="ed_netInterrupt">&netInterrupt.lo… </sourcetext> </parsererror>
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1995. # [17:19] <+timeless> XML Parsing Error: unexpected parser state
1996. # [17:19] <+timeless> Location: jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Nightly/omni.ja!/chrome/toolkit/content/global/netError.xhtml
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1998. # [17:20] <+timeless> <div id="ed_netInterrupt">&netInterrupt.longDesc;</div>
1999. # [17:20] <+timeless> ---------------------------------------------------------^
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2001. # [17:20] <+timeless> -- i got that while trying to connect to http://192.168.1.1/ w/ a busted wifi AP (in theory that's the AP's entrypoint)
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2005. # [17:23] <Waldo> bsmedberg: you mean you have |template<typename T, typename U = something> class Foo;| and you want to require someone to do |Foo<T, U>| and never |Foo<T>|?
2006. # [17:23] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a5948b148fc - Ehsan Akhgari - Bug 912195 - Minimize the #includes in docshell/shistory; r=bzbarsky
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2008. # [17:23] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: no, I mean for function templates template<typename T> void SomeFunction(T);
2009. # [17:24] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: to require that somebody always use SomeFunction<T>(foo) and never just SomeFunction(foo)
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2012. # [17:24] <Waldo> hm
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2014. # [17:24] <+timeless> julienw: that looks like a headache i got years ago
2015. # [17:25] <+timeless> ... you could probably find it in bugs filed by me... my headache was a bad interaction between xpcom, xpconnect, and caps
2016. # [17:25] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: I was hoping that template<explicit typename T> would work, but no such luck
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2018. # [17:25] <+timeless> (circa 2002-2006)
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2020. # [17:25] <Waldo> bsmedberg: |template<typename T, typename U = T> void SomeFunction(U u) { static_assert(mozilla::IsSame<T, U>::value, "must provide T as same type as U"); ... }| maybe?
2021. # [17:26] <Waldo> a bit hackish if it works, but
2022. # [17:26] <@bsmedberg> that's sneaky...
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2025. # [17:26] <Waldo> it's not entirely clear to me that explicitness would be virtuous in some case or other, but I'm going to suppose it is for now :-)
2026. # [17:26] <Waldo> bsmedberg: erm
2027. # [17:27] <@bsmedberg> Waldo: bug 622728, for context
2028. # [17:27] <Waldo> bsmedberg: function templates can't have default parameters in C++98; I don't know the state of compiler support for that aspect of C++11 as far as we care
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2030. # [17:27] <Waldo> er, actually
2031. # [17:28] <Waldo> yeah, "error: default template arguments may not be used in function templates without -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11"
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2034. # [17:29] <Waldo> support for this aspect of C++11 isn't documented on https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code unfortunately
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2036. # [17:29] <paolo> valdan: that's good news :-) but we already disabled all SQL, so I don't see how we could do better than that!
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2040. # [17:30] <Waldo> http://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/C++0xCompilerSupport doesn't talk about it either
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2043. # [17:32] <Waldo> probably you could use some compiler ifdefs to make it a requirement with new-enough gcc, then expect that people on older compilers will learn not to do it via try-failure and such
2044. # [17:32] <botond-laptop> according to http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html, GCC supports them since 4.3
2045. # [17:32] * @bsmedberg wonders if we could write a clang plugin to require it
2046. # [17:32] <botond-laptop> and according to http://clang.llvm.org/cxx_status.html, clang supports them since 2.9
2047. # [17:32] <botond-laptop> not sure about MSVC
2048. # [17:33] <Waldo> bsmedberg: there's also making it a static method of a templated class, which is totally portable
2049. # [17:33] <Waldo> yeah, MSVC is always the black sheep of the family
2050. # [17:33] <@bsmedberg> interesting
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2052. # [17:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0f3ed33fd5f2 - Kannan Vijayan - Bug 906781 - Test case for JSOP_FUNAPPLY with arrays. DONTBUILD. r=jandem
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2056. # [17:34] <glandium> wtf is that red on my push?
2057. # [17:35] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: ^
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2059. # [17:36] <glandium> that push is effectively a no-op for all platforms
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2063. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, hmm, the windows builds end up on the winxp line?
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2066. # [17:37] <RyanVM> Ms2ger: yes, see backscroll w/ ehsan
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2068. # [17:37] <Ms2ger> RyanVM, eh, if it's intentional, sure
2069. # [17:38] * Ms2ger doesn't want to read backscroll
2070. # [17:38] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b67be84c58e2 - Tom Schuster - Bug 910431 - Electrolysis: Permission code followup. f=felipe
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2072. # [17:39] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: clobber needed from prior?
2073. # [17:40] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: let's try that
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2082. # [17:43] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: can i ask you to watch the tree on my push? i heavily underestimated how long incremental builds were taking on m-c
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2085. # [17:44] <edmorley|sheriff> glandium: sure :-)
2086. # [17:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/92594a9fdda0 - Terrence Cole - Bug 906236 - Sweep DeclEnvObjects in the background; r=luke
2087. # [17:44] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7cae068e6b3f - Terrence Cole - Bug 906243 - Handle shrinkSlots correctly for nursery things; r=jonco
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2091. # [17:46] <julienw> timeless, ochameau helped me... basically we were using Object.create() on the object returned by "open", and call "send" on it. I don't know if this is supposed to work, but it doesn't. Do you think I should file a bug or is it expected ?
2092. # [17:46] <glandium> edmorley|sheriff: thanks a bunch. FWIW, the push only touches the android part of packager.mk, so any failure on non-android would be completely unrelated. And even on android, it only changes something when MOZ_ENABLE_SZIP is not defined, which it is on all android builds on m-c. And it was full green on try, with and without MOZ_ENABLE_SZIP.
2093. # [17:46] <edmorley|sheriff> yeah
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2099. # [17:47] <glandium> and at this time of day, i don't know if my sentence actually works... so let's be clearer: it only changes something when MOZ_ENABLE_SZIP is not defined. And MOZ_ENABLE_SZIP /is/ defined on all android builds on m-c
2100. # [17:48] <botond-laptop> looks like MSVC suppport for function template default arguments was added in 2013; I added an entry for them at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code
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2103. # [17:49] <+timeless> julienw: yeah, that's the problem i'm talking about
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2106. # [17:49] <+timeless> you can find my old bug
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2108. # [17:50] <+timeless> you shouldn't file a duplicate, that's bad form
2109. # [17:50] <+timeless> it's a bug, yes
2110. # [17:50] <+timeless> but fixing it was painful
2111. # [17:50] <+timeless> very few people understand/remember that edge part of the world
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2114. # [17:50] <+timeless> and since CAPS is (or at least was) a security boundary, everyone was very wary of touching it
2115. # [17:51] <+timeless> at the time it was also considered a performance sensitive error
2116. # [17:51] <+timeless> it's possible that the newer wrappers have changed the world such that this xpconnect edge may no longer be connected to performance/security, but it's also possible it still is
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2140. # [18:00] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/45446ab0c726 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 911573 - Mochitest fixup to prepare removing Components-in-content with UniversalXPConnect. r=bholley
2141. # [18:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/fb8dac49d9dc - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 911573 - Stablize the pointerlock test. r=smaug
2142. # [18:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d1737d0cb675 - Masatoshi Kimura - Bug 911573 - Enable and use specialpowers in jsreftest. r=terrence, bholley
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2147. # [18:03] <julienw> timeless, oki if we already have a bug then... :)
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2149. # [18:03] <+timeless> it isn't going to go somewhere on its own, i haven't touched it in 3 years iirc, and not seriously in closer to 8
2150. # [18:03] <kaie> in case anyone wonders why the "diff" view in bugzilla has less information than before, use bugzilla prefs and change skin to "dusk"
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2152. # [18:04] <glob> to clarify, it's just missing the attachment description. there's a bug filed
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2155. # [18:05] <+decoder> philor: ping
2156. # [18:05] <philor> decoder: pong
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2158. # [18:05] <+decoder> philor: you mentioned that asan runs the jit-tests twice, right?
2159. # [18:06] <philor> decoder: yep
2160. # [18:06] <+decoder> philor: how did you see that? because the failure appears twice in the log?
2161. # [18:06] <philor> right
2162. # [18:06] <+decoder> okay
2163. # [18:06] <+decoder> in that case
2164. # [18:06] <+decoder> https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27368887&tree=Mozilla-Inbound
2165. # [18:06] <+decoder> thats a regular osx push I just picked from inbound
2166. # [18:07] <philor> indeed
2167. # [18:07] <+decoder> same symptom
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2169. # [18:07] <philor> twice the testing, half the fun
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2171. # [18:07] <+decoder> right.. it doesnt happen always though it seems
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2173. # [18:07] <+decoder> i also saw pushes with a failure in make check and it only appeared once
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2197. # [18:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a79c01a10fcb - David Keeler - bug 912204 - properly clear HSTS state in browser_bug627234_perwindowpb.js r=cviecco
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2199. # [18:19] <glazou> bonjour
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2229. # [18:30] <Waldo> glazou: that...is a really odd time for you to be saying good morning, based on historical precedent
2230. # [18:30] <glazou> well, I'm in california right now so...
2231. # [18:30] <jesup> STDC_*_MACROS.... :-(
2232. # [18:31] <Waldo> jesup: you don't have to think about them, mozilla-config.h is the first thing in every translation unit in Mozilla, and it defines 'em all
2233. # [18:31] <Waldo> speaking of which, I can probably publish that blog post now
2234. # [18:32] <Waldo> woo, I can
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2237. # [18:34] <Waldo> http://whereswalden.com/2013/09/04/mozillaintegerprintfmacros-h-now-provides-prid32-and-friends-macros-for-printfing-uint32_t-and-so-on/
2238. # [18:34] <Ms2ger> Waldo, those look so much like nspr things :/
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2241. # [18:34] <Waldo> Ms2ger: blame C99
2242. # [18:34] * Waldo amends to note all the __STDC_*_MACROS are defined in all Mozilla code
2243. # [18:35] <tbsaunde> nah, blaim nspr
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2245. # [18:35] <@ted> we should write a new string formatting library, clearly
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2247. # [18:36] <Waldo> yeah, that, obviously
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2257. # [18:40] <jesup> waldo: b2g throws warnings on every file due to Unicode.h
2258. # [18:40] <Waldo> jesup: gandalf filed a bug for that
2259. # [18:40] <Waldo> bug 911359
2260. # [18:41] <Waldo> jesup: ^
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2262. # [18:41] <jesup> see also bug 912560
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2264. # [18:43] <Waldo> sounds dup-y
2265. # [18:43] <Waldo> except for the gfx/angle thing
2266. # [18:43] <Waldo> guess that should be patched or something
2267. # [18:43] <Waldo> maybe
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2271. # [18:44] <Waldo> although that should be pre-existing, I think -- I didn't *add* any __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS definitions
2272. # [18:44] <Waldo> and that does ifndef/define/endif, so it shouldn't warn
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2285. # [18:52] <fitzgen> bz: ping
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2287. # [18:53] <+timeless> Waldo: awesome post
2288. # [18:53] * +timeless likes the inconceivable
2289. # [18:53] <Waldo> :-)
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2291. # [18:54] <Waldo> not sure I'd call it awesome, tho, the functionality hardly seems to deserve *that* much happiness ;-)
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2294. # [18:55] <+timeless> oh, i'm not talking about the ability to use any of this stuff
2295. # [18:55] <+timeless> i just love learning how inconsistent (it's inconceivable that it would be so inconsistent, no?) this stuff is across compilers :)
2296. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> You must be new here
2297. # [18:56] <mccr8> Awesome, I can't build ESR17 locally.
2298. # [18:56] <+timeless> i'm just using his word :)
2299. # [18:56] <+timeless> mccr8: why not?
2300. # [18:56] <Waldo> mccr8: there's a patch for that, if it's the C ABI for extern C++ thing, mrbkap was on that
2301. # [18:56] <mccr8> "error: indirect goto might cross protected scopes"
2302. # [18:56] <Waldo> or nope!
2303. # [18:56] <mccr8> in jsinterp.cpp
2304. # [18:56] <evilpie> I would prefer some magic like in rust that automatically chooses the right formay
2305. # [18:56] <Waldo> not sure offhand about a bug for that
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2307. # [18:57] <mccr8> hmm maybe it is just using an old version of clang, because I'm not using mach...
2308. # [18:57] <Waldo> evilpie: we go to market with the language we have, not the language we w...er, never mind ;-)
2309. # [18:57] <+timeless> heh
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2311. # [18:57] <+timeless> Waldo: more like the language_s_ we have
2312. # [18:57] <mccr8> okay, looks like it is clang 3.2
2313. # [18:57] <+timeless> since there is effectively at least one language per compiler-platform
2314. # [18:57] <Waldo> although I would not call servo/rust anything we can go to market with, not now, not for (I'm guessing) at least five years
2315. # [18:58] <Waldo> happy to be proven wrong, of course, but it's only interesting vaporware right now
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2323. # [19:01] <@ted> did we break launching helper apps from the downloads dialog on windows?
2324. # [19:02] <@ted> doesn't seem to be working for me as of today
2325. # [19:02] <+timeless> ted: hrm, what's a helper app?
2326. # [19:02] <@ted> timeless: app associated with a downloaded file
2327. # [19:02] <+timeless> i've managed to launch two installers on 2013-09-03 today
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2330. # [19:02] <@ted> i'm failing to load zip files, for example
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2332. # [19:02] <+timeless> hrm, lemme find one of those
2333. # [19:02] <@ted> mm
2334. # [19:03] <@ted> exceptions in browser console
2335. # [19:03] <@ted> NS_ERROR_FAILURE from nsIMIMEInfo.launchWithFIle
2336. # [19:03] <@ted> guess that would do it
2337. # [19:03] <+timeless> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/artwork/firefox_cd.zip
2338. # [19:03] <+timeless> works for me
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2341. # [19:03] <+timeless> on w8 in the date listed
2342. # [19:03] <@ted> pastebin.mozilla.org/2971933
2343. # [19:03] <+timeless> what handles .zip files for you?
2344. # [19:03] <@ted> explorer
2345. # [19:03] <@ted> i noticed my amazon mp3 .amz downloads weren't working either though
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2347. # [19:04] <+timeless> explorer here too
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2350. # [19:04] <@ted> hm
2351. # [19:04] <+timeless> 122 case SE_ERR_DLLNOTFOUND:
2352. # [19:04] <+timeless> 123 return NS_ERROR_FAILURE;
2353. # [19:04] <@ted> odd
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2355. # [19:04] <+timeless> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/exthandler/win/nsMIMEInfoWin.cpp#48
2356. # [19:04] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: any idea when you'll have time to look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=911289?
2357. # [19:04] <+timeless> most codepaths have decent errors in that function
2358. # [19:05] <+timeless> ted: pull out windbg and attach?
2359. # [19:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ecd7cbc7c179 - Ted Mielczarek - Bug 910363 - Make gdk-screenshot take an optional filename parameter. r=karlt
2360. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f2199d73aef6 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 887364 - URL API for main thread. r=ehsan
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2364. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/907989350527 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 887364 - Update URLUtils interface. r=ehsan
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2366. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/c5fda7e3b3f4 - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 887364 - URL API for Workers. r=khuey
2367. # [19:05] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: sooner than later but I do have a few things to do first
2368. # [19:05] <@ted> timeless: not quite that motivated right now
2369. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/7850adf40329 - Douglas Crosher - Bug 893363 - Ionmonkey: improve support for the Linux perf performance tool. r=bbouvier
2370. # [19:05] <@ted> juggling two other things
2371. # [19:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cb07c1c976f0 - Mihnea Dobrescu-Balaur - Bug 911249 - Make sure harness does not block if killing a process hangs. r=ted
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2373. # [19:05] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: any idea if that's this week vs next week vs later?
2374. # [19:06] <bbondy> guesstimate a couple weeks
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2376. # [19:06] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: that's helpful, thanks!
2377. # [19:06] <+timeless> ted: ok
2378. # [19:06] <bbondy> np
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2386. # [19:09] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1f401bf37ef4 - Dan Gohman - Bug 910814 - SpiderMonkey: Document that js_strtod_harder doesn't actually report overflow errors, and clean up its callers accordingly. r=waldo
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2393. # [19:10] <bbondy> bhearsum|buildduty: do you need it sooner?
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2406. # [19:14] <bhearsum|buildduty> bbondy: i think i just found a modern certutil that i can try to build a config dir with, so let me get back to you on that (i was having trouble building it myself)
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2421. # [19:15] <jimb> ted: ping
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2424. # [19:18] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/86114140b797 - Mike Hordecki - Bug 909672 - Make cross-compartment cloning possible with JS_StructuredClone. r=jorendorff
2425. # [19:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5f7da9fe6cf5 - Frederik Braun - Bug 750436 - Tests for the HTML sanitizer. r=hsivonen
2426. # [19:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/02b05f0a7227 - Andy Wingo - Bug 907744 - Implement iterator result boxing in ES6 generators. r=jorendorff
2427. # [19:18] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12da6e8f148d - Andrea Marchesini - Bug 912086 - Several Workers methods do not set their return value. r=mrbkap
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2430. # [19:19] <@ted> jimb: pong
2431. # [19:20] <@ted> bhearsum|buildduty: certutil is in the test package, FYI
2432. # [19:20] <@ted> (we use it as part of mochitest)
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2435. # [19:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> ted: yeah, i just found it there
2436. # [19:20] <@ted> sorry, would have told you that sooner if i had noticed you were looking for it
2437. # [19:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> no worries
2438. # [19:21] <bhearsum|buildduty> it seems to be missing some deps (libsoftokn3.so at the moment), but i think i can just pull that from the firefox build itself
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2442. # [19:23] <@ted> yeah
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2444. # [19:23] <@ted> you can just put it in the firefox app dir and run it
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2446. # [19:23] <@ted> or maybe LD_LIBRARY_PATH
2447. # [19:23] <@ted> or whatever
2448. # [19:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> yeah
2449. # [19:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> seems to be working now
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2452. # [19:23] <bhearsum|buildduty> while i have you, is it normal that building nss stuff is absolute hell?
2453. # [19:24] <@ted> yes
2454. # [19:24] <@ted> their build system is stupid
2455. # [19:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> great
2456. # [19:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> i'm glad it's not me that's the stupid part
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2464. # [19:28] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mak: ping
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2466. # [19:29] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mak: test_nsINavHistoryViewer.js is timing out on linux too, which means it officially fails intermittently on all platforms
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2476. # [19:33] <ekr> RyanVM|sheriff: Potential impending bustage http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2972086
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2479. # [19:34] <jimb> ted: Who would be a good person to ask about the Android xpcshell test environment?
2480. # [19:34] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ekr: and dumb bustage at that
2481. # [19:34] <@ted> jimb: gbrown
2482. # [19:34] <ekr> RyanVM|Sheriff: I don't judge
2483. # [19:34] <jimb> ted: It seems like Android isn't letting me create a Unix domain socket in the temp directory...
2484. # [19:34] <jimb> gbrown: ping
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2486. # [19:34] <jimb> ted: thanks!
2487. # [19:35] <@ted> np
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2489. # [19:35] <@ted> #ateam would be a fine venue for that conversation
2490. # [19:35] <jimb> okay
2491. # [19:35] <RyanVM|Sheriff> ekr: i do
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2496. # [19:36] <mihneadb> gps: good idea with the ramdisk, but I know I heard that we intentionally run stuff slower in automation to spot more bugs (!?)
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2498. # [19:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/12bc29fc5d34 - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 902248 - Disable test_nsINavHistoryViewer.js on all platforms due to intermittent timeouts.
2499. # [19:37] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4dceda951fba - Ryan VanderMeulen - Bug 750436 - Add new test to xpcshell manifest. r=WhoNeedsTryAnyway
2500. # [19:37] <mihneadb> r=WhoNeedsTryAnyway ++
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2515. # [19:40] <RyanVM|Sheriff> can't wait to see how it does when it actually runs, since it was obviously tested so much beforehand...
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2522. # [19:42] <RyanVM|Sheriff> whee, lots of weird-looking bc bustage too
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2540. # [19:48] <mjrosenb|ARM> is anyone familiar with callgrind and kcachegrind? (or another *grind viewing tool?)
2541. # [19:48] <@khuey> njn and jseward probably
2542. # [19:49] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: ^
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2545. # [19:50] <@smaug> khuey: "probably"
2546. # [19:50] <mjrosenb|ARM> well, there is no guarantee either of them has ever used kcachegrind.
2547. # [19:50] <@smaug> well, I guess so
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2563. # [19:57] <vicamo> RyanVM: ping
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2565. # [20:00] <RyanVM|Sheriff> vicamo: pong
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2567. # [20:00] <vicamo> hi, about b2g-inbound Windows build bustage
2568. # [20:00] <vicamo> could it be a CLOBBER problem?
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2570. # [20:01] <vicamo> it also happened this afternoon
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2572. # [20:01] <RyanVM|Sheriff> vicamo: you mean the bustage I already clobbered and retriggered on?
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2574. # [20:01] <RyanVM|Sheriff> yes, we hit it on all trees
2575. # [20:01] <vicamo> yes, you have a "cr" on the comments
2576. # [20:02] <sotaro> 901224
2577. # [20:02] <RyanVM|Sheriff> vicamo: clobbered;retriggered
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2580. # [20:03] <vicamo> ok, thank you
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2593. # [20:09] <mak> RyanVM|Sheriff: yes, nothing new, I expected that to be true
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2625. # [20:23] <RyanVM|Sheriff> mccr8: esr17 bustage
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2627. # [20:23] <mccr8> RyanVM|Sheriff: thanks, I'm looking at it
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2634. # [20:29] <mccr8> I'm not sure why it works on other branches. I guess there's some bootlegging involved...
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2640. # [20:31] <mccr8> hopefully B2G18 won't break in the same way, but time will tell
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2653. # [20:38] <mccr8> grr
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2655. # [20:38] <RyanVM|Sheriff> feel free to fix in-place
2656. # [20:39] <mccr8> great I broke b2g18 too
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2660. # [20:40] <yzen> Yoric: ping
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2667. # [20:44] <RyanVM|Sheriff> froydnj: ?
2668. # [20:44] <mjrosenb|ARM> froydnj: ?
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2670. # [20:45] <froydnj> on try
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2672. # [20:45] <froydnj> very backed up
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2684. # [20:51] <philor> a mere 557
2685. # [20:51] <philor> drop in the bucket
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2713. # [21:01] <@smaug> jaws: is the "no warning when closing tabs" bug fixed
2714. # [21:02] <jaws> smaug: bug 896291, i need to upload a new patch
2715. # [21:02] <@smaug> looks like no
2716. # [21:02] <@smaug> k
2717. # [21:02] <jaws> smaug: reviews were slow
2718. # [21:02] <@smaug> jaws: is there any other easy way to count the number of tabs
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2721. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> smaug, well, glandium (?) has an addon
2722. # [21:03] <@smaug> no addons for this please :)
2723. # [21:04] <jaws> smaug: i'm not sure what you're referencing. it's not partcularly hard to count the number of tabs that we are about to close
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2726. # [21:04] <@smaug> jaws: the dialog which warns about closing tabs has number of tabs
2727. # [21:04] <jaws> yeah
2728. # [21:05] <jaws> smaug: are you saying that you want a feature to tell you how many tabs you have open?
2729. # [21:05] <Manishearth> jaws: I think he's asking for how to count the number of tabs in code.
2730. # [21:05] <jaws> Manishearth: i don't know what he is asking, hence my further questions :)
2731. # [21:06] <Manishearth> yep
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2733. # [21:06] <jaws> smaug: you can just use the Scratchpad in Browser environment to see how many tabs you have open.
2734. # [21:06] <@smaug> jaws: well, I happen to use that warning dialog for counting tabs too :)
2735. # [21:06] <Ms2ger> jaws, I think not-in-code
2736. # [21:06] <jaws> smaug: yeah that's what i was figuring
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2738. # [21:06] <jaws> not sure why an addon would be bad for you, since that doesn't seem like a feature most people would be interested in
2739. # [21:07] <@smaug> well, I don't want to install anything right now
2740. # [21:07] <jaws> smaug: well, i don't want to fold my clothes either but.... :)
2741. # [21:07] <@smaug> I just started to wonder if I'm over 150 tabs again
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2746. # [21:09] <@smaug> I guess gBrowser.tabs.length gives me the answer
2747. # [21:09] <@smaug> 138
2748. # [21:09] <jaws> smaug: yes, that will give you a close approxamite. that will include hidden tabs (from panorama) and pinned tabs too
2749. # [21:09] <jaws> but for the most part that is all you need
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2768. # [21:18] <davidb> bhearsum|buildduty: so are we running mochitests on asan builds now?
2769. # [21:18] <mccr8> Hooray esr17 is no longer totally on fire. I am the greatest.
2770. # [21:19] <davidb> lol
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2774. # [21:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> davidb: the patch that was put into production enabled some existing tests on mozilla-central, and disabled them on cedar - i'm not sure what exactly those tests were
2775. # [21:20] <bhearsum|buildduty> catlee wrote it, he could probably confirm
2776. # [21:20] <davidb> oh ok - just skimmed bugmail
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2784. # [21:24] <bhearsum|buildduty> davidb: sorry, i don't mean to be intentionally unhelpful!
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2787. # [21:25] <RyanVM|Sheriff> davidb: yes, but still hidden by default
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2789. # [21:25] <RyanVM|Sheriff> davidb: there's still work to be done before they're default-visible
2790. # [21:26] <davidb> bhearsum|buildduty: all good
2791. # [21:26] <davidb> RyanVM|Sheriff: thanks!
2792. # [21:26] <RyanVM|Sheriff> davidb: starting with the next push to m-c, you'll be able to see their results with &showall=1
2793. # [21:26] <RyanVM|Sheriff> (you can already see builds there if you do that)
2794. # [21:26] <bhearsum|buildduty> ryanvm++
2795. # [21:26] <davidb> yep done that :)
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2798. # [21:28] <bz> + ! : | + ! : | + ! 1602 NS_InvokeByIndex (in XUL) + 541 [0x1029a090d]
2799. # [21:28] <bz> + ! : | + ! : | + ! : 1554 nsObserverService::RemoveObserver(nsIObserver*, char const*) (in XUL) + 118 [0x102952aa6]
2800. # [21:28] <bz> + ! : | + ! : | + ! : | 1554 nsObserverList::RemoveObserver(nsIObserver*) (in XUL) + 384 [0x102951430]
2801. # [21:28] <bz> + ! : | + ! : | + ! : | 1554 memmove$VARIANT$sse42 (in libsystem_c.dylib) + 159,147,... [0x7fff84a34ac7,0x7fff84a34abb,...]
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2803. # [21:28] <bz> I've been spinning at shutdown with that stack for 30+ seconds now....
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2806. # [21:29] <bz> There's some TelemetryImpl::GetHistogramById in that script too
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2808. # [21:29] <bz> known bug?
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2810. # [21:30] <Mook_as> can you tell what topic it's removing?
2811. # [21:30] <bz> Mook_as: no idea; this is a nightly
2812. # [21:30] <bz> Mook_as: and the above was just the sampling from activity monitor....
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2814. # [21:31] <bz> But clearly something is leaking observers
2815. # [21:31] <bz> It took 60+s to shut down
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2822. # [21:32] <davidb> it just took me about 7 seconds to shutdown my nightly
2823. # [21:32] <bz> it's usually way faster than this
2824. # [21:32] <davidb> yeah
2825. # [21:32] <@smaug> davidb: I got something similar yesterday
2826. # [21:33] <@smaug> I wonder if it is because iGC is disabled
2827. # [21:33] <@smaug> bug 910777
2828. # [21:33] * bz looks at getHistogramById callers
2829. # [21:33] <@smaug> so if we end up doing GCs during shutdown, they are all super slow
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2831. # [21:34] <@smaug> oh, histogram stuff too
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2833. # [21:34] <KWierso> only took ~10 seconds to restart, including the time to finish applying an update
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2838. # [21:37] <bz> I wish I had more data
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2840. # [21:37] <bz> this is really bad
2841. # [21:37] <bz> if memmove is taking all the time, someone is adding a huge number of observers...
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2847. # [21:38] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: why is inbound still closed?
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2849. # [21:39] <bz> gotta be some sort of leak
2850. # [21:39] <bz> in that I just restarted, quit again, quits instantly
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2852. # [21:39] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: because these "application crashed [@ 0x0]" won't go away
2853. # [21:39] <davidb> bz: same for me
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2855. # [21:40] <philor> ehsan: do you know if anyone has filed or looked at the silent orange for Win64 builds?
2856. # [21:40] <@ehsan> philor: I filed it this morning :)
2857. # [21:40] <gps> hmm, I'm not seeing any "application crashed" errors on inbound. i must be blind
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2861. # [21:41] <philor> indeed you did!
2862. # [21:41] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: that you must be
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2864. # [21:41] <RyanVM|Sheriff> considering there's one on tip
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2873. # [21:43] <RyanVM|Sheriff> gps: I suppose that if this was bustage from you, a clobber should fix it up
2874. # [21:43] <RyanVM|Sheriff> and clobbering hasn't helped here
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2877. # [21:44] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: hey now - I fixed the WebIDL clobber issue :)
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2879. # [21:44] <gps> and the XPIDL issue will get unblocked once I land a patch on inbound :)
2880. # [21:44] <RyanVM|Sheriff> i was referring to the EXPORTS work
2881. # [21:44] * froydnj submits patch to create all kinds of new webidl build issues
2882. # [21:45] <catlee-afk> davidb: yes, we're running mochitests on asan builds now
2883. # [21:45] <RyanVM|Sheriff> that was near the top of what hit m-c
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2885. # [21:45] * catlee-afk is now known as catlee
2886. # [21:45] <RyanVM|Sheriff> and that's all I have to go off so far
2887. # [21:45] <davidb> catlee: ta
2888. # [21:45] <gps> RyanVM|Sheriff: i'm trying to land fixed EXPORTS now :)
2889. # [21:45] <catlee> davidb: is that ok?
2890. # [21:46] <catlee> davidb: well, we would be if the tree wasn't closed
2891. # [21:46] <catlee> don't think we've had a push since turning on the tests
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2893. # [21:46] <RyanVM|Sheriff> argh, edmorley was starring these earlier today
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2895. # [21:47] <davidb> catlee: certainly! as for visibility - probably best to ping dveditz.
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2898. # [21:47] <davidb> it sounds like it is pseudo hidden
2899. # [21:47] * @dveditz pauses mid-bite
2900. # [21:48] <catlee> it hasn't run yet on m-c
2901. # [21:48] <davidb> dveditz: please. eat. :)
2902. # [21:48] <catlee> but when it does, the builds will be hidden, but tests won't be
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2906. # [21:48] <RyanVM|Sheriff> hmm, as best I can tell, the bustage is in this somewhere - https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?rev=44b0383e1063
2907. # [21:48] <davidb> catlee: are the logs hidden?
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2911. # [21:49] * froydnj imagines RyanVM|Sheriff speaking in a crocodile hunter voice while looking for bustage
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2913. # [21:49] <RyanVM|Sheriff> davidb: I told you that they would run on the *next* push to m-c...
2914. # [21:49] <philor> davidb / dveditz / catlee : the tests will be hidden as soon as they show up and we spot them
2915. # [21:49] <davidb> dveditz: do we care if the logs are hidden? i can imagine we might but there are tradeoffs.
2916. # [21:49] <catlee> davidb: they haven't run yet
2917. # [21:49] * davidb nods
2918. # [21:49] <davidb> i'm not super worried or anything
2919. # [21:49] <philor> unless... are you saying "hidden" as in pvtbuilds, rather than as in &showall=1 on tbpl?
2920. # [21:50] <@dveditz> philor: ideally we fix whatever regression we just caused instead
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2922. # [21:50] <RyanVM|Sheriff> srsly
2923. # [21:50] <davidb> yeah dveditz makes a good point… let's get eyes on problems as early as possible.
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2926. # [21:51] <@dveditz> I'd much rather have the results NOT hidden, because anyone looking for security problems is already running our test suites with ASAN builds (if they're smart)
2927. # [21:51] <davidb> didn't mean to sound an alarm :)
2928. # [21:51] <@dveditz> so we're only hiding it from ourselves
2929. # [21:51] <davidb> heh
2930. # [21:51] <davidb> true
2931. # [21:51] <RyanVM|Sheriff> froydnj: i'd much prefer if someone who actually knew the js engine could help me figure this out
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2935. # [21:52] <@dveditz> the JS pit seems pretty empty/quiet today
2936. # [21:54] <+decoder> hes
2937. # [21:54] <+decoder> *hey
2938. # [21:54] <RyanVM|Sheriff> dveditz: everyone loves long tree closures anyway
2939. # [21:54] <+decoder> m-c is only the first step anyway.. this will soon run on m-i too
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2942. # [21:56] <Yoric> I'm trying to understand how to build a static library with moz.build.
2943. # [21:56] <RyanVM|Sheriff> aha!
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2945. # [21:56] <Ms2ger> Yoric, #build ;)
2946. # [21:57] * philor muddies the waters by retriggering the opt asan build
2947. # [21:57] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Will do :)
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2951. # [21:57] <+decoder> philor: was there a failure on opt-asan?
2952. # [21:58] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/dffedf20a02d - Ryan VanderMeulen - Backed out changeset 9e282f0c00b8 (bug 906805) for suspicion of causing intermittent mochitest-bc crashes on a CLOSED TREE.
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2956. # [21:59] <philor> decoder: no, a muddled discussion about when tests would and wouldn't appear and on what push and what "hidden" means, and then since every tree is closed and the next push to m-c is unimaginably far away I retriggered to get tests on the current tip
2957. # [22:00] <philor> so I can hide them, so I can unhide them later on
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2965. # [22:03] <+decoder> philor: ah ok :D
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2986. # [22:11] <RyanVM|Sheriff> inbound's open, have fun
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2989. # [22:11] <catlee> be safe
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2995. # [22:12] <mkaply> When you have a regression, does it depend on the bug that caused it or block the bug that caused it?
2996. # [22:13] <Ms2ger> It blocks the cause
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3000. # [22:14] <mkaply> Ms2ger: thanks
3001. # [22:14] <Ms2ger> Np
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3003. # [22:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a895979d4c8b - David Burns - Bug 912244: Correct screenshot with element highlighting in Marionette; r=jgriffin
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3008. # [22:15] <RyanVM|Sheriff> what component should bugs concerning partner repacks be filed under?
3009. # [22:15] <Ms2ger> /dev/null
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3011. # [22:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/743278b7340f - Gregory Szorc - Bug 896797 - Part 3: Use install manifests for managing dist/include; r=glandium
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3015. # [22:18] <Ms2ger> gps, good luck...
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3023. # [22:19] <gps> Ms2ger: :)
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3026. # [22:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/42b3fc6937e7 - Neil Deakin - Bug 896142, Entries appearing twice in form-fill autocomplete menus, r=mhammond, a=bbajaj
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3056. # [22:35] <mjrosenb|ARM> is anyone here at the VM talk?
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3058. # [22:36] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0783c819410d - Patrick McManus - bug 907800 - only retry http 408 when it is suspected of being a persistent reuse race r=jduell
3059. # [22:37] <@smaug> mjrosenb|ARM: is that ongoing?
3060. # [22:37] * RyanVM|Sheriff wonders if NeilAway is planning to push that patch to Aurora too
3061. # [22:37] <mjrosenb|ARM> smaug: yes.
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3063. # [22:37] <@smaug> I totally forgot
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3068. # [22:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8790cc20505b - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 911771. Remove uses of MOZ_DEBUG in .cpp files, since there is no such thing there. Use DEBUG instead. r=glandium
3069. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3e07ffec398e - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 910795 part 2. Use the new Rebind() setup to avoid creating string copies for variadic string arguments. r=smaug
3070. # [22:40] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d42f8528d09f - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 910795 part 1. Add a way to Rebind() an nsString to be a dependent string. r=bsmedberg
3071. # [22:40] <NeilAway> RyanVM|Sheriff: you mean Enn?
3072. # [22:41] <RyanVM|Sheriff> yes I do, sorry
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3078. # [22:43] <NeilAway> RyanVM|Sheriff: although that reminds me I have a patch to push
3079. # [22:44] <+decoder> philor: RyanVM|Sheriff: we should figure out btw why sometimes some jit-tests run twice. it's obviously not an asan problem
3080. # [22:44] <+decoder> that could consume a lot of build time in general
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3082. # [22:44] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4a5e5f94a4f7 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 859807: Request longer timeout for test_transitions_per_property.html. r=dbaron
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3093. # [22:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/365e150efda0 - Neil Rashbrook - Bug 910899 Plugin placeholder XBL anonymous elements need anonids r=jaws
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3106. # [22:52] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5d62f5c733c - Benoit Girard - Bug 907544 - Pass the D3DSurface9 down into Cairo for LockRect. r=jrmuizel
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3108. # [22:53] <mihneadb> now that the intermittents have cleared up, a small status update: We are running xpcshell tests in parallel now. I updated the docs on MDN to mention that we should be using dynamic open ports and stuff like that. Details about the whole process here - http://bit.ly/1a7A61C . I'll also have an intern presentation about this tomorrow at 2 PM Pacific time, will be streamed on airmo
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3111. # [22:53] <Ms2ger> mihneadb, why are intern presentations always so late? Don't you guys get up until noon?
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3113. # [22:54] <+corey> heh
3114. # [22:54] <mihneadb> Ms2ger: I don't know!
3115. # [22:54] <mihneadb> Ms2ger: it will be like 11 PM your time, do you go to bed so early?
3116. # [22:54] <Ms2ger> Yep
3117. # [22:55] <Ms2ger> *I* do get up before noon ;)
3118. # [22:55] <mihneadb> nice, I keep trying to achieve that but I fail massively
3119. # [22:55] <mihneadb> haha
3120. # [22:55] <mihneadb> I m doing it wrong - get up early go to bed late
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3122. # [22:55] <Ms2ger> Not sure if that works long term
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3126. # [22:56] <mihneadb> indeed :(
3127. # [22:56] <mihneadb> anyway it will be on airmo
3128. # [22:56] <mihneadb> I'll send you the link the following day
3129. # [22:56] <Ms2ger> Thanks :)
3130. # [22:56] <mihneadb> sure, thanks for the interest
3131. # [22:56] <Ms2ger> Good luck with it :)
3132. # [22:57] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8628391a5a8b - Patrick McManus - bug 912582 - false start rc4 and rsa accomodations need exact principal matches r=dkeeler
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3149. # [23:03] <Ms2ger> gerv, thanks for the "Identifying The Problem" post
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3151. # [23:03] <gerv> Ms2ger: YW.
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3159. # [23:06] <tanvi> smaug: ckerschb - i want to talk about the load types in bug 906190
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3161. # [23:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0e9fc39801fc - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Let all plugins except Flash default to click-to-play. r=bsmedberg
3162. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4b9221731b0e - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 3 - toolkit. r=bsmedberg
3163. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/46a5c7cf1ec4 - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 1 - Always enable test-plugins for reftests. r=jmaher
3164. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eb82f789664b - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 7 - accessible. r=surkov
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3168. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bcbfbc9591b - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 2 - dom/plugins. r=bsmedberg
3169. # [23:07] <tanvi> smaug: should we create a new load type - nsDocShellTypes LOAD_NORMAL_ALLOW_MIXED_CONTENT =
3170. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1c3c7005f6af - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 6 - widget. r=roc
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3172. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1332d461d52e - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 5 - layout. r=roc
3173. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/af8b8c91286c - Georg Fritzsche - Bug 899080 - Test fixup part 4 - content. r=smaug
3174. # [23:07] <tanvi> = MAKE_LOAD_TYPE(nsIDocShell::LOAD_CMD_NORMAL, nsIWebNavigation::LOAD_FLAGS_ALLOW_MIXED_CONTENT | nsIWebNavigation::LOAD_FLAGS_BYPASS_CACHE) is
3175. # [23:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e63861a73d9 - Benjamin Smedberg - Bug 902075 - Add telemetry for plugin click-to-activate doorhanger UI, r=vladan
3176. # [23:08] <Manishearth> If I hg pull, how long will ./mach build take? Will it decide stuff smartly or just do the 4 hour build?
3177. # [23:08] <@smaug> tanvi: I think that would make sense
3178. # [23:08] <Ms2ger> Manishearth, smartly, but that might still take long
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3181. # [23:08] <@smaug> in case we're not reloading anything
3182. # [23:08] <Ms2ger> Manishearth, because the code changes a lot
3183. # [23:08] <mihneadb> Ms2ger: thanks! [read scrollback]
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3186. # [23:09] <tanvi> smaug: instead of trying to reuse LOAD_RELOAD_ALLOW_MIXED_CONTENT in a semi hacky way (where, like you said, we are not trying to reload anything)
3187. # [23:09] <@smaug> tanvi: yeah.
3188. # [23:09] <@smaug> _RELOAD_ is just odd in this case
3189. # [23:09] <@smaug> s/is/would be/
3190. # [23:10] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/6537b89b9063 - Robert Longson - Bug 906601 - filter processing memory allocation should be fallible. r=jwatt
3191. # [23:11] <tanvi> smaug; okay thanks!
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3193. # [23:12] <Manishearth> Ms2ger: There's only one change, so that shouldn't be an issue
3194. # [23:12] <Manishearth> How does it smartly build? Timestamps?
3195. # [23:12] <Ms2ger> Manishearth, upstream, I mean
3196. # [23:13] <Ms2ger> "GNU make"
3197. # [23:13] <Ms2ger> So, yeah, timestamps
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3199. # [23:13] <Manishearth> Wait, only one head, but many changes.
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3203. # [23:14] <Manishearth> uh oh clobber
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3206. # [23:14] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/4db34d255ed0 - Botond Ballo - Bug 904533 - Compute FrameMetrics::mCompositionBounds correctly for subframes. r=tn
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3210. # [23:15] <@ehsan> bjacob: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/08/13/using-include-what-you-use/
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3213. # [23:16] <bjacob> ehsan: thanks
3214. # [23:16] <mjrosenb|ARM> for mozilla::vector, is there a way of removing N elements from the middle of the array?
3215. # [23:16] <@smaug> hmm, is it safe to write uint32 on one thread and read it on another ... though, Atomic<> should be perfect for this
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3222. # [23:20] <philor> wow, bz must be new here
3223. # [23:20] <@smaug> ?
3224. # [23:20] <philor> he replaced an undefined ifdef with the one it meant to be, without checking to see how many things inside that undefined ifdef had built up the inability to build by never being defined
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3228. # [23:23] <efaust> blargle.
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3233. # [23:24] <philor> what, it was open for *71* minutes!
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3239. # [23:28] <philor> bholley: does https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=27393236&tree=Mozilla-Inbound look like it might be you?
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3244. # [23:31] <nrc> bjacob: are you planning to do some IWYUing?
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3248. # [23:31] <@bz> RyanVM|Sheriff: ping
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3252. # [23:33] <philor> bz: ITYM |afk, trying to hide from the tree and get things done for a bit
3253. # [23:33] <bjacob> nrc: maybe but there seem to be other smart people doing that already ;-) so i'm doing another approach. IWYU is about near-automatically fixing the relatively easy cases. I'm trying to manually fix a few of the worst, biggest headers. Dont know if you saw, i just did GLContext.h. I have a script that tells me how many other headers include a given header, and how many headers it itself includes. I'm sorting headers by the product of these
3254. # [23:33] <bjacob> two numbers. At the top of my list right now, is Layers.h (is included in 34 other headers, itself includes 38 headers)
3255. # [23:34] <philor> only with underscores instead of spaces, I guess
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3257. # [23:34] <@bz> ok
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3259. # [23:34] <philor> bz: fix in place if you want, I'm going to have to hold it closed for a while waiting on bholley to show whether he's breaking more stuff or not
3260. # [23:34] <@bz> Going to push a fix for my red.....
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3262. # [23:35] <ekr> RyanVM|Sheriff: this may also create some sad:
3263. # [23:35] <philor> oh, and he is
3264. # [23:35] <ekr> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2973078
3265. # [23:35] <nrc> bjacob: cool, you might be interested in this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74741329/includes.csv
3266. # [23:35] <bholley> philor: it does
3267. # [23:35] <bholley> philor: but it just had a green try push
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3269. # [23:35] <philor> ekr: that's bz's thing
3270. # [23:35] <@roc> have all these IWYU fixes actually reduced build times significantly?
3271. # [23:35] <nrc> bjacob: it is a list of most includes and their size post-preprocessing
3272. # [23:35] <ekr> philor: OK
3273. # [23:35] <bholley> philor: maybe somebody changed the function signature?
3274. # [23:35] <bjacob> nrc: great! very useful
3275. # [23:35] <philor> bholley: wouldn't put it past them
3276. # [23:36] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: pong
3277. # [23:36] <bholley> philor: I'm in a meeting, I'll be done soon
3278. # [23:36] <bholley> or someone else can fix
3279. # [23:36] <@bz> roc: some of them have helped libxul link memory usage
3280. # [23:36] <bjacob> nrc: i'd be interested in how that changed with the GLContext.h fix
3281. # [23:36] <@roc> bz: ah good, I guess that's worth it then!
3282. # [23:36] <bjacob> nrc: e.g. i expect the WebGL headers are a lot smaller now
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3285. # [23:36] <nrc> roc: hard to say. I have hard data for the gfx/layers stuff I did - that reduced build times for layers by ~12.5%
3286. # [23:36] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: I'm trying to use callgrind + kcachegrind, and am getting confused by the output. Are you familiar with kcachegrind?
3287. # [23:37] <nrc> roc: but a similar one I did for content/canvas barely moved the needle
3288. # [23:37] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/746266548b65 - Boris Zbarsky - Bug 911771 followup. Just nuke the broken code. r=CLOSED TREE
3289. # [23:37] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: or do you know a better way to get data out of callgrind?
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3292. # [23:37] * @roc can't wait for inbound to reopen so he can land the giant nsTHashtable patch
3293. # [23:37] <nrc> bjacob: that would be cool
3294. # [23:38] <philor> wups, sorry, we're going to be closed until... until... until I go to bed
3295. # [23:38] <@bz> roc: http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[205,63,8]]&sel=none&displayrange=90&datatype=running is the libxul memory usage graph over the last 3 months
3296. # [23:38] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: on what platform are you using it?
3297. # [23:38] <@bz> roc: also, rebuilding dom/bindings went from ~5 mins to ~3 mins
3298. # [23:38] <nrc> bjacob: it is the GL headers that are amongst the largest on that list
3299. # [23:38] <@bz> roc: but that was careful changing of headers, not IWYU
3300. # [23:38] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: i'm runnig callgrind/cachegrind (I ran both because I wasn't sure which one would be more useful) on a chromebook, and kcachegrind on my x64 laptop.
3301. # [23:39] <@roc> I wonder if we should follow the Google policy and move all definitions of virtual methods out of .h files
3302. # [23:39] <bjacob> nrc: yes, and i suspect that that was caused by GLContext.h
3303. # [23:39] <mwu> figuring out what includes to clean up is kinda hard to do well automatically
3304. # [23:40] <bholley> philor: ok, back
3305. # [23:40] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: in short, callgrind has problems on ARM, reliably identifying calls and returns
3306. # [23:40] <nrc> mwu: yes, I found things that look like good targets are often tricky to make a big impact on
3307. # [23:40] <tbsaunde> roc: other than really stupid stuff like FrameType() don't we basically do that?
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3309. # [23:40] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: which tends to make the call graph that kcachegrind displays, look nonsensical
3310. # [23:40] <@roc> I don't think so
3311. # [23:41] <tbsaunde> oh?
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3314. # [23:41] <bholley> philor: yep, bug 883920
3315. # [23:41] <nrc> bjacob: your number of included headers needs to be a transitive closure to be useful. Layers.h has a large number of includes because I recently IWYUed it. I think that is actually a fairly small number of includes in the grand scheme of things
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3318. # [23:42] <nrc> bjacob: I guess IWYU is a good way to get the real number of included headers
3319. # [23:42] <bholley> philor: do you want me to rebase my changes forward and make sure that the patch builds? Or push blind right away?
3320. # [23:42] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: ahh, that would certainly explain the bs that I've been seeing!
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3322. # [23:42] <bholley> philor: I'll do the safe thing
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3325. # [23:43] <bholley> philor: unless you tell me you're in a hurry and don't have time to stop for gas ;-)
3326. # [23:43] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: can you get any useful info out of cachegrind?
3327. # [23:43] <nrc> bjacob: btw on that list of includes, anything with a really small number of bytes is probably an error - the methodology is not perfect
3328. # [23:43] <bjacob> ok
3329. # [23:43] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: iirc, the only ways that gcc returns are |pop {..., pc}| and |bx lr| are there other methods and/or false positives with those two?
3330. # [23:43] <philor> bholley: I'm heading out to lunch in a few minutes, so you can do whichever suits you :)
3331. # [23:43] <bholley> philor: rad
3332. # [23:43] <bjacob> nrc: filing a bug about the approach i'm taking
3333. # [23:43] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: or alternatively, can you use callgrind on x86{_64} ?
3334. # [23:43] <catalinn> is it possible to make a forward declaration of a #define var ?
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3336. # [23:44] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: I'm trying to improve arm perf, but I can try running it on x64.
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3338. # [23:44] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: actually, derf did manage to improve it a bit somewhat
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3341. # [23:44] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: you're using trunk, yes?
3342. # [23:45] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: trunk from a few months ago.
3343. # [23:45] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: are you able to discern, from the profile data, whether it is missing returns (stacks too large) or missing calls (stacks too small) ?
3344. # [23:46] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: I'm seeing alot of callee-caller inversion, so A calls B, and kcachegrind reports that B calls A.
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3346. # [23:49] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: I do remember some nastyness where gcc creates a call to an indirect target, and puts that address in LR
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3348. # [23:49] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: then does "bl lr"
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3350. # [23:50] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: can you identify a specific incorrectly-displayed A-B pair, and see what the call sequence from A to B looks like?
3351. # [23:50] <derf> sewardj: Did anyone ever fix the bit were callgrind thought no conditional branches could be calls or returns?
3352. # [23:50] <derf> *where
3353. # [23:51] <mjrosenb|ARM> sewardj: gcc should never do that. According to jbramley, that will basically destroy ARM's instruction prefetching logic
3354. # [23:51] <sewardj> mjrosenb|ARM: it would be really useful to get this working. I find the lack of callgrind on arm to be a nuisance
3355. # [23:51] <derf> mjrosenb|ARM: gcc does not always do things that are smart.
3356. # [23:51] <derf> 4.4.3 is particularly bad.
3357. # [23:51] <sewardj> derf: I don't know. The logic needs overhaul
3358. # [23:52] * philor is now known as philor|away
3359. # [23:52] <sewardj> derf: mjrosenb|ARM: on the whole though, I feel like this should be doable
3360. # [23:52] <mjrosenb|ARM> derf: thankfully, I'm using 4.7.2
3361. # [23:52] <derf> I agree, it just required more time than I had.
3362. # [23:52] <derf> mjrosenb|ARM: Lucky!
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3365. # [23:52] <jld> I conjecture that any function where gcc does an indirect call (or indirect tail call) with `blx lr`/`bx lr` needed registers saved in the prologue, so that can't be the return.
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3367. # [23:53] <jld> ...wait. It *has* to save lr if it's using it as a temporary like that. (Unless it's noreturn?)
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3369. # [23:53] <derf> jld: Yes, though it could stuff it in a caller-saved register.
3370. # [23:54] <derf> That would be dense, but it's gcc.
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3373. # [23:54] <jld> derf: I'm implicitly assuming that GCC's frame/prologue/epilogue stuff hasn't gotten substantially more clever lately, I guess.
3374. # [23:54] <mjrosenb|ARM> jld: coroutines!
3375. # [23:54] <jld> ...on ARM, I mean.
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3377. # [23:55] <mjrosenb|ARM> coroutines could totally be implemented by two functions executing |blx lr|
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3379. # [23:55] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/5a86fde943e6 - Bobby Holley - Bug 899367 - Followup bustage fix for some functions that were renamed out from under me. r=me CLOSED TREE
3380. # [23:55] <mjrosenb|ARM> thankfully no language gcc supports actually has coroutines.
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3382. # [23:55] <jld> mjrosenb|ARM: Would callgrind know what to do with such a language if it did?
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3385. # [23:56] <mjrosenb|ARM> jld: I suspect not.
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3387. # [23:57] <bholley> hm, why is there no X button to cancel all the builds for a push on inbound?
3388. # [23:57] * bholley would like to do that for everything up to the recent compilation bustage fix
3389. # [23:57] <@khuey> because that breaks all the things
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3391. # [23:57] <@khuey> it leaves objdirs in a broken state
3392. # [23:57] <@khuey> requiring clobbers
3393. # [23:57] <mbrubeck> no longer!
3394. # [23:57] <@khuey> mbrubeck: hmm?
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3396. # [23:58] <mbrubeck> khuey: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658934
3397. # [23:58] <bjacob> nrc: ehsan: bug 912735
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3401. # [23:59] <@khuey> mbrubeck: nice
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3403. # [23:59] <mbrubeck> khuey: Well, technically it still requires a clobber, but it actually sets the clobber automatically instead of leaving things in a broken state
3404. # [23:59] <@khuey> yeah, that solves the pain
3405. # [23:59] <nrc> bjacob: ta!
3406. # [23:59] <@khuey> if they don't care about the wasted machine time then *shrug*
3407. # [23:59] <mbrubeck> At this point I think the only reason we don't have a "cancel all" button is to limit hassle from accidental button pushes. We could probably add one with extra-special scary prompts.
3408. # Session Close: Thu Sep 05 00:00:00 2013

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